Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Elon Musk DECLARES WAR On World Economic Forum w- DC Draino

00:00:00.000 So good old Mr. Elon Musk has been ragging on Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum

00:00:25.000 quite a bit lately.

00:00:27.000 And he's ramping things up, putting up a poll saying, should the World Economic Forum control the world?

00:00:33.000 And so I dig it.

00:00:34.000 I like Elon Musk speaking out against these people.

00:00:37.000 Apparently he claims that he was invited and he didn't want to go.

00:00:39.000 It sounded boring.

00:00:40.000 They're claiming now that he was never invited.

00:00:42.000 But anyway, you got all these elites lining up their private jets, flying into Davos and

00:00:47.000 then lecturing us on climate change, claiming that you in fact are the problem.

00:00:52.000 So these are nasty people, but we'll talk all about that.

00:00:54.000 And then something else came up because someone super chatted right before we started about

00:00:57.000 Bank of America.

00:00:58.000 I don't know exactly what's going on, but I saw some videos where people were saying

00:01:01.000 that money disappeared from their accounts.

00:01:03.000 And then Luke was mentioning that he was having weird issues with Bank of America as well.

00:01:06.000 And so I'm like, is there a story here?

00:01:08.000 Or is this like, I don't know.

00:01:09.000 So I'm gonna have to look into this one.

00:01:10.000 Cause it sounds really crazy.

00:01:11.000 I watched this video, this guy's in the branch saying like, where's our money?

00:01:14.000 And everybody is like, yo, they're saying our money's gone.

00:01:17.000 That's creepy.

00:01:18.000 Especially considering you got the World Economic Forum basically saying that there's going to be a major cyber attack or cyber event happening soon.

00:01:27.000 That's the next big thing.

00:01:28.000 So it's kind of like, you know, I'll take their word for it, considering who they are and what they do.

00:01:33.000 I'll take their word for it.

00:01:35.000 But a bunch of other stories.

00:01:36.000 Greta Thunberg got arrested the other day.

00:01:38.000 I want to talk about that.

00:01:39.000 And then we got Matt Gaetz wants to abolish the ATF.

00:01:42.000 That sounds fun.

00:01:43.000 So we'll get into that.

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00:02:37.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole bunch more is DC Drano.

00:02:41.000 Thank you for having me.

00:02:42.000 It's an honor and a privilege.

00:02:44.000 What do you do?

00:02:44.000 Who are you?

00:02:46.000 So I am a former Hollywood entertainment attorney that talks shit on the internet now, mostly in the form of memes, but I also just got back my Twitter after two years of being suspended. 0.96

00:03:00.000 Thank you, Elon Musk. 0.88

00:03:02.000 And so now I'm doing it on Twitter as well.

00:03:04.000 Interesting.

00:03:05.000 And then are you able to talk about what's going on with you on Twitter?

00:03:08.000 Yeah, so when I got banned in 2021, early 2021, I got this really mysterious phone call from someone.

00:03:18.000 They're like, hey, hit me up on Signal.

00:03:20.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:03:20.000 And they're like, you're on a list.

00:03:22.000 And I'm like, yeah, I assume I'm on all the lists.

00:03:25.000 And they're like, no, no, you're on a government list, code orange, you're talking too much about election stuff. 0.96

00:03:31.000 And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, 81 million my ass, I'm going to keep talking about it.

00:03:38.000 And, sure enough, a couple weeks later I got banned for election misinformation in February 2021. 0.74

00:03:45.000 And then Judicial Watch came out with the results of a FOIA request that showed that the state of California was emailing Twitter saying DC Drano is spreading election misinformation.

00:03:56.000 I am a licensed attorney in the state of California and they shut down my free speech.

00:04:02.000 I brought this stuff to Harmeet Dhillon and Ron Coleman.

00:04:06.000 They took on my case.

00:04:08.000 They even put it in their non-profit Center for American Liberty, so they're actually paying a bunch of the costs.

00:04:15.000 And we have been suing for a couple years, and we're in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and we're awaiting our decision.

00:04:20.000 We had our hearing.

00:04:21.000 And so all these Twitter files, that is actually something that we've known about for a couple years, and we're actually in the pipeline.

00:04:28.000 So I'm very optimistic.

00:04:30.000 We should get into that if possible later on in the show.

00:04:33.000 Thanks for hanging out, man.

00:04:34.000 We got Luke.

00:04:35.000 Lots of talk at Davos about banning red meat.

00:04:35.000 Hey, guys.

00:04:38.000 That's because they want you eating Bill Gates' moobs creating GMO seed oil fake meat. 0.99

00:04:42.000 So that's why I decided to wear my brought to you by fake meat t-shirt that you could exclusively get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, soon to be unbanned on Instagram with the moobs. 0.88

00:04:56.000 So we're very excited about that.

00:04:57.000 You can get the shirt on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com because you do.

00:05:00.000 That's why I'm here.

00:05:01.000 Thanks for having me.

00:05:01.000 Well, I'm Ian Cross, and also happy to be here.

00:05:03.000 Just realized DC Drano is the actual Drano to unclog the drain in the swamp in DC.

00:05:09.000 Thanks for clearing that up for me.

00:05:10.000 I've just been seeing DC Drano for whatever reason I hadn't clicked like that.

00:05:10.000 Thank you.

00:05:13.000 Like, oh yeah, duh.

00:05:14.000 I had my name on my Twitter when I got it back, and then I did a poll.

00:05:17.000 I was like, do you guys want Rogan O'Handley or DC Drano?

00:05:20.000 And it was like, overwhelmingly, we want DC Drano.

00:05:23.000 I was like, okay, fine.

00:05:24.000 Gotta give the people what they want.

00:05:25.000 Do you want to go by Rogan?

00:05:27.000 Do you go by Rogan on the show, basically?

00:05:29.000 Funny story.

00:05:30.000 Cassandra sends me an email and she's like, hey, we're going to have Rogan on the 18th or whatever.

00:05:35.000 And I was like, what?

00:05:36.000 She was like, yeah, he's going to come by.

00:05:40.000 And I was like, really?

00:05:41.000 I was like, I'm surprised you didn't hit me up.

00:05:45.000 Yeah, that Rogan.

00:05:48.000 My full name is Rogan O'Hanley and I was searching some hater comments on Twitter recently and someone wrote that Rogan O'Hanley is an old Gaelic term for a sad handjob. 0.61

00:06:00.000 Wow.

00:06:01.000 I just thought that was very clever.

00:06:02.000 Does Rogan mean sad?

00:06:03.000 Is that?

00:06:04.000 Well, first off, there is no such thing.

00:06:06.000 Okay.

00:06:07.000 But I did think it was clever and I posted it on Instagram.

00:06:11.000 We got search pressing buttons.

00:06:11.000 Right on.

00:06:13.000 Yo, what's up guys?

00:06:14.000 At search.com.

00:06:16.000 Hope you guys are well.

00:06:17.000 This will be a good show.

00:06:18.000 I'm excited to meet a fellow Hollywooder always who left and kind of got, like you said, radicalized out of what they want you to think.

00:06:25.000 Yeah.

00:06:26.000 Looking forward to it, man.

00:06:27.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:06:28.000 We got this from TimCast.com.

00:06:29.000 We got a couple things actually.

00:06:31.000 Quote, unelected world government.

00:06:33.000 Musk further comments on World Economic Forum meeting in Davos.

00:06:36.000 Would be great if someone could compile a game contest of who said the craziest stuff between 4chan and the World Economic Forum.

00:06:44.000 He recently put up this Twitter poll.

00:06:44.000 I love it.

00:06:47.000 So if you guys are on Twitter, you can go click that no button.

00:06:50.000 The World Economic Forum should control the world.

00:06:52.000 Yes, no.

00:06:54.000 1.6 million people said, I voted, and 13%, so we're looking at like 200,000 people, said yes.

00:07:02.000 You know what, I've been thinking a lot about World Economic Forum lately, and Klaus Schwab obsessed with like stakeholder capitalism, shareholder capitalism, evolving the system, the economic, and I'm like, you know what he's missing out on is statehood.

00:07:14.000 Like statehood comes before your economic system.

00:07:18.000 Statehood is a concept that exists without economics.

00:07:22.000 And Klaus is obsessed, all he focuses on is economics and the economic structure of things.

00:07:26.000 He's missing out on the political structure of things, which is, I think, paramount, is that we have statehood.

00:07:30.000 We have local government, where you have decentralized structures of authority.

00:07:35.000 You're missing the point.

00:07:35.000 That's key.

00:07:36.000 That's not what they want.

00:07:37.000 They want centralization.

00:07:39.000 They want all the power in their hands.

00:07:40.000 They don't want statehood.

00:07:41.000 They don't want sovereignty.

00:07:42.000 They don't want independence.

00:07:43.000 They don't want you being proud of where you're from.

00:07:45.000 They want to break you apart.

00:07:47.000 They want to play a larger divide and conquer agenda as they take everything else for themselves.

00:07:52.000 Because how else would they be able to get as rich as they are without them running larger Ponzi schemes on everyone else inside of the Not only the United States, but the entire world.

00:08:02.000 And the conversations happening at Davos, I've been paying attention to them.

00:08:05.000 They're creepy.

00:08:06.000 They're out of the 1984 Orwellian hellscape.

00:08:10.000 You can't even imagine the horrors that these people are describing.

00:08:13.000 And they're cheering it on, talking about like, it's going to be incredible when you guys don't have any red meat.

00:08:18.000 When you have mandatory requirement of making sure that you are reporting your carbon emissions, making sure that there's going to be regulations on speech, regulations on bitcoins, there's going to be global cyber attacks, there's going to be, you know, major attacks against free speech, and they're like, yeah, this is great, this is awesome, we need central bank digital currencies, we need Uh, places where you can't leave, where you're gonna be stuck in with 15-minute sustainable communities.

00:08:43.000 This is absolutely crazy what they're doing and they deserve to be countered because their policies are becoming law.

00:08:50.000 Who are these laws serving? 0.73

00:08:51.000 What's a 15-minute community?

00:08:53.000 So they're testing this actually in the United Kingdom right now.

00:08:57.000 It's where you're going to need permission to cross over from one neighborhood to another, where everything is 15 minutes inside of your community.

00:09:06.000 So you don't need a car, so you get to walk or you get to ride around in your bike.

00:09:10.000 To have a car and go from one community to another, you're only allowed a certain amount of times to do that.

00:09:15.000 Then you need government permission in order to just travel in your car, and the main idea is to keep you in a prison, to keep you in a grid where you are stuck, and this is a pilot program that's going to be happening in a major UK town in just a few years from now, that they're going to be instituting with surveillance cameras, artificial intelligence, facial recognition, plate reading cameras, making sure that you are essentially living in a prison.

00:09:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this only affects poor people, right?

00:09:40.000 So, you know, the rich people don't gotta worry about it?

00:09:42.000 Is that...

00:09:43.000 Well, it depends how rich.

00:09:45.000 Are you in the club?

00:09:46.000 Are you sacrificing?

00:09:48.000 Trump's not rich enough, you know what I mean?

00:09:50.000 So now they like borders.

00:09:50.000 Exactly.

00:09:51.000 Yes.

00:09:52.000 A lot of borders.

00:09:53.000 And they want more borders in order to control people better.

00:09:57.000 There's a reason Klaus Schwab says China is the model for the world.

00:10:01.000 That's because they've been testing a lot of their latest technocratic technology and enslavement of humanity in that country.

00:10:08.000 Now they're going to be rolling it out everywhere else.

00:10:10.000 What's this Cyber 9-11 stuff they've been talking about?

00:10:14.000 They've been talking about that for a long time.

00:10:15.000 They had a war game a couple months ago where they actually worked with the Russian government simulating larger cyber attacks that were supposed to be happening on the world and how they would deal with that.

00:10:24.000 This is very similar to Event 201.

00:10:27.000 Where a lot of the very same kind of central players in COVID were talking about a pandemic situation that they were training for and drilling for right before COVID happened.

00:10:38.000 So a couple months ago, they're training specifically a drill called Cyber Polygon, where they specifically were doing these larger tests of what's going to happen when everything in our online infrastructure gets shut down and is weaponized against the people.

00:10:52.000 How are they going to be responding to it, this, as they're saying, and kind of foretelling that their next kind of bigger psyops, the next kind of bigger terrorist attack, is going to be online, is going to be digital, and is going to be affecting everyone, and potentially could have already started a couple days ago, especially what would happen with the FAA, with them essentially shutting down and not allowing airplane traffic for two hours in the United States, first time ever since 9-11.

00:11:17.000 There's a cyber attack that did that, right?

00:11:19.000 We don't know yet.

00:11:19.000 Potentially.

00:11:20.000 We don't know the exact details here.

00:11:22.000 But I get riled up against this so much because the writing's on the wall.

00:11:26.000 They talk about this.

00:11:27.000 They brag about this.

00:11:28.000 They literally have all these articles and documents where they're like, yes, this is how we're going to implement this vision of you being a slave and us having all the power over you.

00:11:37.000 Sorry, you want to say something?

00:11:38.000 I'm going on a tangent here.

00:11:40.000 No, it's extremely important information.

00:11:43.000 They do like to tout it.

00:11:45.000 It sounds less like, hey, you guys should all watch out for this, and more of, hey, this is what we're planning to do next.

00:11:51.000 And we're just kind of troubleshooting the social effects.

00:11:55.000 And so it almost seems like, oh, Bank of America shut down.

00:11:58.000 Oh, FAA.

00:11:59.000 And they just, okay, when airlines go down, this is what they do.

00:12:02.000 When the electricity goes out, this one, there's no money, this, So they're catering to our responses, I believe.

00:12:09.000 And I actually tweeted about this.

00:12:11.000 I said, hey, WEF is talking about a cyber attack and the governments are talking about it, but when we bring it up, they call us conspiracy theorists.

00:12:20.000 And Elon actually responded to the tweet, and he just wrote under it, startling.

00:12:27.000 Yeah, man, that's what you ultimately, I don't know if it's unhackable, but you need systems outside the system.

00:12:31.000 Like, Klaus, this top-down authority thing doesn't work with statehood.

00:12:36.000 You can't make it happen when local authorities have control and communication and delivery of goods.

00:12:42.000 Like, if you have drone delivery services, like, we can get Jeff Bezos' Amazon to create, like, an orbital drone delivery system along with Elon's Starlink.

00:12:50.000 I think we're really talking about some sort of freedom.

00:12:54.000 Well, their enemy is statehood.

00:12:55.000 Their enemy is nationalism.

00:12:57.000 Their enemy is pride in one's country. 0.78

00:13:00.000 Because once you get rid of that, you could allow people to be internationalists.

00:13:03.000 Because when you destroy a nation for the personal benefit of the few, these people don't care about the United States.

00:13:07.000 They don't care about the Constitution.

00:13:09.000 Contrary to a lot of people's beliefs, they hate the Constitution.

00:13:13.000 They hate that people have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment.

00:13:15.000 And they're doing everything in their power, they're manipulating people as much as they can.

00:13:20.000 They're doing so many underhanded things in order to make sure that the rule of law, the Constitution, the most important rights that are extremely rare in human history, are obliterated and destroyed.

00:13:30.000 That's exactly what they did in China.

00:13:32.000 And what they didn't China is what they're going to be doing to the rest of the world very soon because a lot of their policies that they call for are literally being implemented slowly and surely look what happened to a Sri Lanka they complied that was another major test of the compliance system Sri Lanka had a 98% ESG social credit score. 0.62

00:13:48.000 World Economic Forum saying Sri Lanka is going to be the best country out there.

00:13:52.000 What's happening to Sri Lanka right now?

00:13:54.000 Energy shortages, the schools are shut down, businesses are shut down, energy rationing, government taxing every little aspect of your life.

00:14:01.000 But they have diversity.

00:14:02.000 Are you talking about California?

00:14:04.000 Yes.

00:14:04.000 This is their planned destruction of our life, and this is why California, this is why New Zealand, this is why Australia, this is why the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Sri Lanka are all adopting the same policies at the same time, top-down centralized control of the demolition of the entire Western world.

00:14:23.000 That's what we're seeing right now.

00:14:24.000 It's serious, and the implications here are going to be very severe.

00:14:27.000 I think we were talking a little bit before the show about the King of England and his ties to the World Economic Forum.

00:14:32.000 I'm not too super He's one of the early kind of co-founders of the World Economic Forum and you'll see him, it's actually kind of interesting when they bring him on stage, I don't know if you guys can find the video, but they put like the fleur-de-lis behind him and it's like a crown over his head right when he's speaking.

00:14:48.000 He is, I think that the WEF, I'm very confident, is his way of expanding England's imperialist intentions through the back door.

00:15:00.000 They're like, oh, we don't need to put redcoats in every country, we just need to control the top players in government, media, and business, and then we can have a lot of control.

00:15:11.000 You know, King Charles, or Klaus Schwab, he talks about how we have people in the Canadian parliament, and in the Canadian cabinet, and New Zealand, and Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are all constitutional monarchies ultimately subject to the authority of King Charles.

00:15:30.000 And which three countries were the most oppressive during the COVID lockdowns?

00:15:34.000 With the mandatory vaccines, with, you know, vaccine passports, It was those three countries. 0.56

00:15:39.000 Australia had concentration camps.

00:15:40.000 China, really, I think.

00:15:41.000 But the thing about China is they're so locked down.

00:15:44.000 We didn't know any countries.

00:15:45.000 Remember when those three kids escaped from that Howard Springs facility?

00:15:50.000 And then all these woke people were like, no, no, no, it's not a concentration camp.

00:15:55.000 It's just for people who are sick. 0.73

00:15:56.000 And they're posting bikini-clad women looking all happy.

00:16:00.000 Meanwhile, three Native, like, indigenous Australian kids, like, threw burlap sacks over the barbed wire and tried to climb out and escape because they were forcefully relocated.

00:16:10.000 And they had checkpoints because of that.

00:16:12.000 They literally locked down entire cities looking for these three kids, which were a danger to society.

00:16:17.000 They were imprisoning people and putting them in quarantine camps because they had disagreements and arguments with police officers who were just sick of someone and said, you know what?

00:16:26.000 You tested positive, even though they did not.

00:16:29.000 And those photos are actually from the Olympics.

00:16:31.000 And a lot of the Australian Olympic team were using that facility previously before, and that's where they got all the pictures of all the hot bays.

00:16:37.000 But essentially, it was just a camp that the government detained you for as long as they wanted to, without you having any kind of recourse.

00:16:48.000 This is an important point to be made, though.

00:16:50.000 Look at what happened with Claire Lehman from Quillette.

00:16:53.000 She was this free speech advocate.

00:16:56.000 Living in Australia, then Australia goes full Death Star and she immediately falls in line and says, it's all okay.

00:17:03.000 Everything they're doing is completely fine.

00:17:04.000 You're all wrong.

00:17:05.000 That's how quickly, you know, some of these people's integrity holds up.

00:17:10.000 If you ever wanted to know what it's like, what you're going to do when tyranny takes over, you just found out the last three years.

00:17:17.000 How you responded.

00:17:17.000 Yep.

00:17:18.000 That was the greatest psychological operation ever conducted on humanity in the history of the world.

00:17:24.000 And if you, Went through that and obviously, you know, if you didn't get the jab or if you resisted the mass or whatever, you know, pat yourself on the back because that's quite impressive.

00:17:33.000 I think America, I think they're actually, I think we actually achieved a huge victory.

00:17:37.000 And I do want to give a lot of credit to the Canadian truckers.

00:17:40.000 They set the wheels in motion, but I think they're like, crap, we still had, despite all that, despite trillions of propaganda, 30%, 40% of Americans did not fully comply. 0.84

00:17:52.000 And it's probably going to be worse the second time around. 0.91

00:17:55.000 It was like an inoculation.

00:17:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:56.000 For me, it was.

00:17:57.000 The rat hope experiment.

00:17:58.000 We've talked about it.

00:17:59.000 You familiar with it?

00:18:01.000 Dude takes three cylinders full of water and some rats, puts the rats in the cylinders.

00:18:01.000 No.

00:18:05.000 They swim for 15 minutes, then give up and die.

00:18:08.000 He then takes another group of rats, puts them in the cylinders,

00:18:08.000 Hm.

00:18:10.000 they swim for 15 minutes, give up, but then he grabs them and pulls them out,

00:18:14.000 dries them off, lets them rest, puts them back in.

00:18:18.000 The second time they swam for 60 hours.

00:18:21.000 Because when they had hope, they said, well, I'm not going to give up.

00:18:21.000 Oh.

00:18:26.000 The first group of rats were just like, I have no idea what's happening.

00:18:28.000 I'm tired.

00:18:29.000 This is it.

00:18:29.000 I'm done.

00:18:31.000 Second group of rats were like, I will be saved.

00:18:33.000 The hand will come back.

00:18:34.000 And they kept swimming.

00:18:35.000 That's the first time I've been appreciated being called a rat.

00:18:38.000 That's crazy.

00:18:40.000 Now imagine the experiments that the CIA are working on right now that we don't even know about.

00:18:44.000 Probably with very similar situations, very similar circumstances, but instead of rats, they're probably doing it with human beings.

00:18:49.000 That's what people think about the lockdowns.

00:18:51.000 The lockdowns were the first 15 minutes and then everybody started to lose their minds.

00:18:55.000 Then they, okay, everybody, we're going back to normal.

00:18:58.000 Everybody come back out, come back out.

00:19:00.000 They're going to re-lockdown.

00:19:02.000 So the hypothesis goes, and this time they're going to be like, don't, don't worry.

00:19:06.000 Just like last time, we'll, we'll lift the lockdown soon.

00:19:08.000 It's coming.

00:19:09.000 But people will go 300 times longer in lockdown.

00:19:12.000 I got a little bit of a different take from that, is that the willingness to resist and then their inability to enforce it is the hope.

00:19:21.000 That's us pulling ourselves out of the tank, realizing like, oh, you don't have to submit to this.

00:19:26.000 Personally, I just see things a little bit differently.

00:19:27.000 I don't think they're going to try to launch another kind of pandemic from here.

00:19:31.000 I think it's going to be digital.

00:19:33.000 I think there's going to be an attack on our infrastructure.

00:19:36.000 It's going to lead to a lot of chaos, and then they're going to come in and say, hey, it's dangerous to have an open and free internet.

00:19:41.000 We need to take control of it.

00:19:43.000 And that's the last thing, that's the last step that they need.

00:19:46.000 Fully controlling the internet, fully taking it over from people like Elon Musk and other individuals that are still allowing free speech, everything, and saying, this is now in our control for your safety and your health and well-being.

00:19:57.000 Just one more point before we move on to this particular story.

00:20:00.000 Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:20:02.000 actually just did a very fascinating interview that I just retweeted talking about how the central controllers, people at the CIA, during COVID weren't looking out for your best interest, weren't talking about and making studies and looking into how to help people, how to give them early treatments.

00:20:16.000 He goes on and talks about how the CIA used the The COVID-19 response to increase their top-down government, authoritarianism, and totalitarianism, and had this as an opportunity to run many psychological operations to see what they could get away with.

00:20:30.000 This is Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:20:32.000 Fascinating video, just tweeted about it on The4YourChange.

00:20:34.000 I want to pull up this story because this is freaky stuff, man.

00:20:37.000 This is from ClickToHouston, NewsGuard certified.

00:20:40.000 They say, what's going on with Bank of America?

00:20:43.000 Social media users call out financial giant over missing money.

00:20:47.000 They say social media erupts from the everyday consumer to heavyweight political and business figures.

00:20:52.000 The financial giant's timeline was flooded with complaints in the form of posts and mocking memes.

00:20:57.000 One commenter appeared to ask the question that everyone seemingly wanted to know, what's going on with Bank of America?

00:21:02.000 Apparently they were trending after many customers discovered that money was missing from their accounts.

00:21:07.000 The concerned consumers shared their experiences online.

00:21:10.000 Dow Detector, a consumer website, reported the issues happening with Bank of America around 10.30am.

00:21:14.000 You want to know what's really funny?

00:21:16.000 I learned this lesson.

00:21:17.000 Very important lesson I think everybody needs to know.

00:21:18.000 Do you know what your bank account is?

00:21:22.000 Do you want to know what it is?

00:21:23.000 Do you know what it is?

00:21:24.000 My guess is it's a computer program.

00:21:25.000 It's a text file.

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:27.000 It's a text file.

00:21:28.000 .txt.

00:21:29.000 The amount of money you have in your bank is quite literally just input text.

00:21:34.000 There's no cash.

00:21:35.000 There's no gold.

00:21:36.000 Literally nothing.

00:21:38.000 And I learned this the hard way, because I bought a truck and paid, we financed it,

00:21:44.000 and then after a few months, I went to pay off, like, I paid off the whole thing.

00:21:50.000 Three months later, I get a phone call, and they're like, we're gonna repossess your truck

00:21:54.000 because you never paid the bill.

00:21:55.000 I was like, what are you talking about?

00:21:56.000 I paid the whole thing off.

00:21:58.000 And they're like, no you didn't.

00:21:59.000 Both banks, my bank, which I did the transfer from, and their bank, said, we have no record

00:22:06.000 where this money is.

00:22:08.000 My bank said, when we do the transfer out, all we do is write minus the number, and press enter, and it subtracts from your account.

00:22:16.000 And then they confirm our subtraction, and they do the addition.

00:22:21.000 The problem was, the other bank didn't do the plus.

00:22:25.000 So the money vanished.

00:22:26.000 That's where smart contracts are needed. 0.72

00:22:26.000 Disappeared. 0.72

00:22:28.000 Completely disappeared.

00:22:29.000 And they say crypto is unsafe.

00:22:30.000 And then I said, where did the money go?

00:22:32.000 And they were like, we don't know.

00:22:33.000 And I'm like, I don't understand.

00:22:34.000 And then, you know, I basically had a guy say to me like, he didn't say it like this, but what do you think your money in the bank is?

00:22:42.000 There's no cash in there.

00:22:43.000 You do not have a box full of cash in a vault.

00:22:47.000 They quite literally just type a number and press enter.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, it's promissory notes.

00:22:51.000 No, no, no, no, no, it's not.

00:22:53.000 It's not even a crypto.

00:22:54.000 Like, you think, with Bitcoin, there's an encryption key behind that Bitcoin.

00:23:01.000 It exists, you could hold it.

00:23:02.000 There's something there, at least, a string, a hash code.

00:23:06.000 With your bank, literal nothing.

00:23:09.000 The only thing that exists is the ledger itself.

00:23:13.000 And when the ledger doesn't reflect the actual transaction, it doesn't matter, because the other bank went, we don't know, we don't have the money, and my bank said, we don't have the money either, your money is just gone.

00:23:24.000 It's so hackable, that is so controllable, to think that these private companies have secret text files that have your money on it, that they can change at will, behind the scenes, or that someone else could hack it.

00:23:35.000 At that point, I do believe crypto's more secure.

00:23:38.000 Even though you could lose it and it could go to zero, You've got to diversify your assets, not necessarily in

00:23:44.000 just what you invest in, but having crypto, having cash in the bank, having cash at home, and like you

00:23:49.000 mentioned a few days ago, having gold.

00:23:51.000 I mean, when things go south, you want to have tangible assets just in case.

00:23:56.000 I'll tell you guys a story.

00:23:58.000 When I was like 20, I think I was like 21, my buddy overdrafts.

00:24:04.000 And he's like, why did I overdraft?

00:24:06.000 This doesn't make sense.

00:24:08.000 What happened was in Chicago, there was this big scandal where the CTA, the public transit, was double charging people.

00:24:15.000 So we're broke.

00:24:18.000 He's got $30 in the bank.

00:24:20.000 He spends $20.

00:24:21.000 Then his paycheck comes in on a Friday.

00:24:25.000 He should have $180.

00:24:26.000 Instead, he's like negative $200.

00:24:28.000 And he's like, what happened?

00:24:30.000 Well, apparently what happened was the CTA double-charged him, putting him negative.

00:24:33.000 Then he got hit with overdraft fee, overdraft fee. 0.99

00:24:35.000 Bought a pack of gum for $2, $30 fee or something stupid. 0.81

00:24:38.000 So then he accumulates all these overdraft fees. 0.98

00:24:38.000 Right. 0.98

00:24:41.000 His paycheck doesn't cover him.

00:24:43.000 He's trying to buy things.

00:24:44.000 He's getting more.

00:24:44.000 And then all of a sudden, he's negative.

00:24:47.000 I could be totally wrong about this because it's been 20 years, but I'm pretty sure.

00:24:51.000 We loaned the bank.

00:24:52.000 This is a crazy story.

00:24:54.000 And we're hanging out, and he sits down with this manager guy in a suit, and he says, he pulls up his bank account, and he's pointing at things.

00:25:01.000 He was like, look, look, right there, like CTA, charged me three times.

00:25:05.000 That caused me to go negative.

00:25:07.000 Then my paycheck came in, and the guy was just like, okay, okay.

00:25:10.000 He turns the monitor around, and then he starts typing stuff in.

00:25:13.000 He spins it back around, and it says negative 400, and he puts the cursor on the negative and clicks backspace, and then he says, how does that look?

00:25:21.000 And then my friend's like, uh, okay.

00:25:25.000 And then he was like, there you go.

00:25:27.000 And hit enter, did something.

00:25:28.000 And we were like, wait, what just happened?

00:25:30.000 Does he now have 400 bucks?

00:25:32.000 Okay, get this.

00:25:34.000 the bank closed down a few weeks later.

00:25:36.000 So I have to wonder, what may have happened was, this guy knew he was getting laid off, the manager,

00:25:42.000 and so he was like, screw these people, and just transferred money.

00:25:45.000 But I'm almost kind of like, was he screwing with us? 0.66

00:25:48.000 Because there's no way he can do a hard input and just change someone's account.

00:25:52.000 I think he can, they have discretionary, like a person on the phone can be like,

00:25:55.000 yeah, I'll overwrite your $35 charge, but they only have a certain limit that they can overwrite.

00:26:00.000 And then the manager is probably like $500 per customer per week or something you can... We used to be backed by gold.

00:26:07.000 I mean, this is a relatively... The last hundred years, central banks, Federal Reserve, I mean, I'm sure everyone watching has knowledge on that.

00:26:13.000 But I mean, there used to be when you said, hey, I'd like to take out money, they had gold to trade it in.

00:26:20.000 One quick note on the rat thing.

00:26:21.000 I actually misinterpreted it that, oh, they put them in, they'll last longer.

00:26:24.000 I think we, the people, would actually, like, if they're going to put us back in the tank, we just bite their hand a lot.

00:26:30.000 Like, I don't think I'd go back swimming in that tank for 60 hours.

00:26:34.000 No, I think people would.

00:26:35.000 I think a lot of people would.

00:26:38.000 They want to get people to put themselves in the tank.

00:26:40.000 I think a lot of people would also be like, eh.

00:26:43.000 Think of how many people don't trust the CDC, the FDA, Big Pharma.

00:26:47.000 I was like, never like that really before.

00:26:50.000 If you trust the government now, you haven't been paying attention and you had your head in the sand for the last three years.

00:26:56.000 I didn't trust the government, but I thought at least the medical people were generally pretty squared away.

00:27:01.000 Let's add the banking component into what's going on now.

00:27:05.000 There's a viral video of people in a bank and they're like, where's our money, right?

00:27:09.000 Think about what can happen if this cyber event is everyone's money disappearing.

00:27:14.000 What happens?

00:27:16.000 Everyone then calls the government and says, I want my FDIC insured, whatever.

00:27:20.000 And now all of a sudden you are on your knees in front of some government BS being like, please, sir, may I have another?

00:27:28.000 Please regulate this industry more.

00:27:32.000 Now we need a central bank digital currency.

00:27:34.000 Now we need a universal basic income.

00:27:36.000 And that's one of the perfect ways to implement it.

00:27:37.000 They're going to come out and they're going to be like, we don't know what happened.

00:27:40.000 It was a cyber attack.

00:27:42.000 It's the Russians. 0.99

00:27:44.000 The ledger's gone down.

00:27:45.000 It was Russia who did it. 1.00

00:27:46.000 What we're going to do is we're going to give everybody $5,000 in their accounts for the time being so you can have basic goods.

00:27:53.000 All the poor people are going to be like, yay! 1.00

00:27:56.000 And all the rich people and all the middle class people are going to be like, my life is being destroyed.

00:28:00.000 We need to put in a new Patriot Act, but this one's going to have a dollar sign after it.

00:28:05.000 Patriot Act for money.

00:28:07.000 What do you guys think about... Patriot Act gold.

00:28:09.000 I think that the central bank digital currency that they're talking about doing is probably going to happen at some point and it'll probably usurp the dollar or become part of the dollar and like a dollar bill will represent as a token.

00:28:20.000 But what do you guys think about like a United States decentralized crypto like Bitcoin but like just backed by the United States government?

00:28:28.000 totally decentralized. What does that mean?

00:28:29.000 They're like backed by the threat of being drone bombed?

00:28:32.000 Yeah, exactly. Because I was like, what would I say to Congress? Like,

00:28:34.000 how do we fix the economy? I'm just grasping at straws, but obviously...

00:28:38.000 Our money used to be gold, but now it's the threat of being blown up.

00:28:42.000 Literally. And it's all, you notice everything is drifting electronic, right?

00:28:47.000 So California is kind of like a predictor of things to come in terms of the leftist agenda here.

00:28:53.000 They want your car to be electric.

00:28:54.000 They want your stove to be electric.

00:28:56.000 They want your money to be purely electric.

00:28:58.000 Because you can control things that are electric.

00:28:58.000 Why?

00:29:01.000 Yeah, you have the grid.

00:29:02.000 I wouldn't say drifting.

00:29:03.000 I would say it's like, you know, hellbent.

00:29:05.000 Careening?

00:29:06.000 Yeah, careening is a better word.

00:29:07.000 So maybe instead of it being backed by force, it would just be like, you can buy American goods with this cryptocurrency in addition to the US dollar.

00:29:15.000 The USDT?

00:29:18.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:29:20.000 I think by the dollar, they have to have dollar reserves.

00:29:23.000 That's tethered, like literally, I think that's a stable point.

00:29:25.000 Yeah, that's tethered, yeah.

00:29:26.000 It stays at the exact value as the dollar.

00:29:28.000 But I think it would take off and become more valuable than the dollar, just because it's digital.

00:29:32.000 Then the power could always go out, and then you're back to basics, where that's why cash, you could never, I don't think you ever should get rid of cash, ever.

00:29:39.000 I imagine they'll try and put those, what do they call those little barcodes on each dollar bill?

00:29:44.000 QRs?

00:29:45.000 QRs, or I'm talking about the little metal strips that they put in your credit card.

00:29:49.000 They're printed from foil, but they can magnetically measure where you're at and all that, track you.

00:29:55.000 Well, there's also a war on cash, and many places already have stopped accepting it, and many businesses as well, and they don't have the exact change for it.

00:30:04.000 Well, I think, I don't know, I have to look into that, but there's a better idea.

00:30:07.000 There's microchips that you could shove up, you know what, and then you have to be, you know, tracked, and it's inside of you, and they'll know that it's going to be your transaction, and you have to be probed every time you want to use, you know, the money, and then they know exactly it's coming from you to whatever else you're buying, and then they have a perfect record, and then they'll know exactly how many taxes you have to pay, they'll know exactly what you're buying, they'll share it with all the big corporations that will know your consumer activities, which will help them Sell you better products.

00:30:35.000 But what's the libertarian solution? Because the US dollar is a real

00:30:39.000 status thing. Like, you can go to Wyoming and buy groceries at a grocery store

00:30:44.000 there with the US dollar because the American military

00:30:47.000 is like, you better, or we are in control and everyone is using the US dollar here.

00:30:52.000 There's a reason libertarians and the Ron Paulers have been screaming

00:30:56.000 about the dangers of the US Federal Reserve for so many years.

00:31:00.000 If you look at Ron Paul, even before the major financial problem, one of the things that he was making arguments against is the Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air.

00:31:09.000 This was before 2008.

00:31:11.000 It has been a staple position of many Libertarians, of many anti-statists saying, hey, this creature from Jekyll Island is a Big problem.

00:31:19.000 Because they could literally create inflation, they could create deflation, but they know what's going to happen, so they could game the market, so they are always the winners, and you will always be the loser.

00:31:28.000 And this is what they've been doing for decades on decades on decades, and this is why the libertarians have been talking about this, because you get rid of that central bank, just like Thomas Jefferson did, that he gets put on the $20 bill, but you get rid of that, you allow people to have more freedom, and you're not controlled by the whims of banksters.

00:31:47.000 Well, let's talk about this controlled opposition.

00:31:48.000 I got this tweet here from Chairwell that says, Peter Thiel bashes Greta and the autistic children's crusade in his address at the Oxford Union, blaming environmentalism for some of the greatest crises of our time, Andy Wei reports.

00:32:02.000 That's a bold statement from from Peter Thiel about Greta.

00:32:06.000 It's interesting, though, because, you know, what's what's Peter Thiel's deal?

00:32:09.000 I mean, isn't he like a Davos group or no, he's not he's not that stuff.

00:32:13.000 Probably was former Davos.

00:32:15.000 I mean, I think he's kind of old school Silicon Valley, right?

00:32:18.000 When Silicon Valley started, these guys were like tech libertarians.

00:32:22.000 Like, we're giving a voice to the people and then money and banks and all that got involved.

00:32:28.000 You know, I was going to say to your point, there's three things you can't audit.

00:32:31.000 The Federal Reserve, our elections, and the DOD budgets.

00:32:34.000 So we got Greta Thunberg, which is, I guess, what?

00:32:37.000 Blanket-controlled opposition.

00:32:39.000 Fairly obvious to anybody.

00:32:40.000 She doesn't protest in China.

00:32:41.000 She protests the West, which is doing everything in its power to get rid of carbon emissions.

00:32:45.000 Peter Thiel comes out and bashes Greta, calling it Greta and the Autistic Children's Crusade.

00:32:51.000 But this guy, I thought, you know, I know Peter Thiel had some good opinions, but I thought he was like Bilderberg.

00:32:56.000 Well, I mean, he just sponsored JD Vance and Blake Masters for Senate, which I think is a testament to him.

00:33:01.000 I was at a Blake Masters fundraiser in Miami at Peter Thiel's house, and he gave a quick speech.

00:33:07.000 And I was admittedly like, I was like, wait, Peter Thiel is like a Silicon Valley guy, Facebook, like, come on, I'm not.

00:33:13.000 And his speech, which, you know, early PayPal was great, current PayPal sucks.

00:33:17.000 Early PayPal was amazing.

00:33:19.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.000 And his speech blew me away.

00:33:21.000 Three minutes, and I was like, ooh, he's a good guy now.

00:33:24.000 And I think we've seen that with Elon Musk, with, you know, Joe Rogan, like these guys, they're kind of getting more and more emboldened with Tim Pool.

00:33:32.000 I think he said, we have about three years left to save America from a communist takeover.

00:33:39.000 Peter said that.

00:33:40.000 Peter Thiel said that.

00:33:41.000 I mean, he has a very- Last year.

00:33:42.000 We have two.

00:33:43.000 He has a very interesting career, especially what happened with BuzzFeed, especially him being ousted by them and then kind of getting retribution through Hogan.

00:33:51.000 Him coming out and supporting Donald Trump, especially during the RNC, was pretty ballsy too, but he has a very interesting kind of career.

00:33:58.000 He's also with Palantir with Alex Karp, who was at Davos today, specifically talking about how he is a progressive helping the intelligence agencies And working on AI technology that will help track down Russians in the battlefield, but also giving this technology to the U.S.

00:34:16.000 intelligence agencies and how a lot of progressives should be happy that he's doing so because he's stopping a lot of right-wing terrorist attacks.

00:34:23.000 But that's Alex Karp, another Bilderberg member, who's working with Peter Thiel on Palantir.

00:34:29.000 I talked to Peter Thiel twice at Bilderberg already, and he is a Bilderberg steering committee member.

00:34:35.000 So, there's a lot of mystery there.

00:34:36.000 There's still a lot of questions.

00:34:37.000 I would love to have a bigger discussion with him.

00:34:40.000 He's kind of a little mysterious figure, but I think definitely there deserves to be a bigger conversation to be had with him, because he's interesting.

00:34:49.000 I agree, too.

00:34:50.000 And, you know, look, we're doing the whole coffee shop thing, the cafe, skate shop, physical location stuff, and it's particularly inexpensive relative to Other businesses.

00:35:02.000 Like, setting up a coffee shop is not as expensive as setting up, like, a media company.

00:35:07.000 I bring this up because I wonder, with Peter Thiel being worth, what is he, like, two billion dollars, I'm genuinely curious.

00:35:13.000 I'm not saying he's doing nothing, but I'm wondering if he really feels this way about how we got three years to save this country, what is he doing?

00:35:20.000 And again, not saying he's doing nothing, I'm genuinely curious, like, what are his approaches and strategies with all of his resources to try and save this country, if he even is?

00:35:28.000 I've only seen what has been public.

00:35:30.000 I mean, you know, kind of Bilderberg, he was on the Facebook board, right?

00:35:35.000 And you would think, oh, that's bad because Facebook is very censoring and they kicked the President of the United States off.

00:35:42.000 But it's also kind of good because we want some representation on that board, too.

00:35:46.000 So, you know, there is a kind of a flip side to it.

00:35:49.000 All I can attest to, I'm not a Peter Thiel expert, but he did back those two Senate candidates.

00:35:54.000 I think he was the second or third biggest GOP donor.

00:35:57.000 He recognizes the time in this country where we're at, and I imagine he'll be a big supporter in 2024, but I don't know fully what his plan is.

00:36:08.000 The Palantir thing's interesting.

00:36:09.000 It's basically spy tech.

00:36:10.000 It's like new, 21st century spy tech.

00:36:13.000 From what I know, I know very little about it, except that it is spy tech.

00:36:16.000 I just want to make a correction really quick.

00:36:17.000 It wasn't BuzzFeed.

00:36:18.000 It was Gawker.

00:36:19.000 Where he worked?

00:36:20.000 I apologize.

00:36:20.000 No, with Peter Thiel and the Hogan lawsuit.

00:36:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:25.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:36:26.000 So I apologize.

00:36:26.000 I misspoke.

00:36:27.000 What was that lawsuit, to clarify really quick?

00:36:27.000 I made a mistake.

00:36:29.000 Gawker published a sex tape of Hulk Hogan, the Hulkster. 0.94

00:36:34.000 Yeah, and it was so brutal. 0.91

00:36:36.000 They should not have done that.

00:36:38.000 And but they were like, oh, it's what we do.

00:36:39.000 And Peter Thiel then funded the lawsuit.

00:36:41.000 And it's because Gawker outed him as gay. 0.83

00:36:44.000 Okay, but the thing that thing is, it's crazy is like, he does work around the world, he could be killed in some of these places.

00:36:50.000 Yeah, like the Middle East, especially, which is a huge danger to them. 1.00

00:36:54.000 And it wasn't a newsworthy story. 0.85

00:36:56.000 It was a gossip story that they tried to, of course, herd him over, which was, again, ridiculous.

00:37:01.000 But sorry, a big thing that people need to discuss, because they have a big presence in the intelligence community, and the intelligence community, the FBI, the CIA, depends on them a lot.

00:37:11.000 Yeah, I was advised, hey, Palantir, invest.

00:37:13.000 I made like 10 times my money on the freaking thing in the beginning.

00:37:13.000 So I did.

00:37:16.000 Ian comes up to me one day.

00:37:18.000 This was like a year and a half ago.

00:37:19.000 Before COVID.

00:37:20.000 It was like right around when COVID was beginning.

00:37:21.000 Early 2020.

00:37:22.000 We were here.

00:37:23.000 I'm in my front office.

00:37:27.000 And then you walk up and you're like, dude, my friends are saying, you got to buy a bunch of Palantir stock.

00:37:30.000 And I was like, I'm not going anywhere near that.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:32.000 I was like, when it comes to investment, it's not about what you believe in.

00:37:35.000 It's about what you know is going to make you money.

00:37:37.000 Unfortunately, sickeningly, I do that every once in a while.

00:37:40.000 You can get really rich really quick.

00:37:41.000 I sold it all.

00:37:42.000 But anyway.

00:37:43.000 I think what's happening is, I brought this up last night on the After Show, that maybe the CIA, the FBI, the NSA are the good guys.

00:37:48.000 And that we inadvertently have been cannibalizing ourselves.

00:37:51.000 Is there a mute button?

00:37:53.000 It's only good relative to what else there is, the other options, which are the CCP, the World Economic Forum.

00:37:57.000 So it's a whole bunch of evil.

00:37:58.000 So it's like the liberal economic order versus BRICS. 0.71

00:38:01.000 I think they are already bought out by the CCP.

00:38:04.000 I think the CCP is so embedded.

00:38:06.000 I mean, we already, oh social credit scores, we already have that.

00:38:09.000 Go ask someone like Laura Loomer or Alex Jones.

00:38:12.000 The CCP is the testing grounds for the elites to push a lot of their unpopular policies

00:38:17.000 to see the compliance levels that they want to bring to the West, to the Western world.

00:38:21.000 And this is like, you know, Ian, I think you have the Twilight Saga view of werewolf and

00:38:26.000 vampires, whereas like the classical view is if a werewolf and a vampire are fighting

00:38:32.000 each other over you, it's because they want to eat you, not because they want to date

00:38:36.000 you.

00:38:37.000 And so like the way you're describing like maybe they're the good guys insofar as as

00:38:42.000 I'm like, yeah, that's like you're imagining sparkly vampires who are just like, I'm so in love with you.

00:38:47.000 I promise they're not.

00:38:48.000 The guys, the lower level people are generally good people working hard and want to bust bad guys. 0.96

00:38:52.000 The guys at the top are evil as corrupt as they can be.

00:38:55.000 Yeah, I guess he's not a modelist. 0.80

00:38:56.000 Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, had a lot of interesting comments today at Davos.

00:39:01.000 He was talking about how In-Q-Tel was one of the first kind of startups for a lot of these larger, bigger tech companies.

00:39:08.000 He was talking about how the CIA, the FBI, the DOD were all involved, and now how a lot of these bigger tech companies are more aligned to the West.

00:39:15.000 Because of that he was going off and talking about how they are creating algorithms at Palantir that are specifically used to quote target Russians on the battlefield and later he went on and said the US government has our software and uses it very aggressively.

00:39:30.000 That's Alex Karp today, CEO of Palantir at Davos Today.

00:39:35.000 Very eye-opening comments to say the least.

00:39:37.000 I don't think anybody at the NSA is a good person.

00:39:40.000 Not a single one.

00:39:41.000 I just don't know them all, and I know companies aren't monoliths.

00:39:44.000 The NSA is a Fourth Amendment-violating organization.

00:39:48.000 There's no question.

00:39:48.000 I agree with that.

00:39:50.000 Anybody at the NSA is like sitting there saying, I know we're in violation of the law of the land of this country, in violation of our oaths to uphold the Constitution, but oh well.

00:40:02.000 There's no circumstance.

00:40:03.000 Or they don't know.

00:40:03.000 What do you mean they don't know?

00:40:07.000 If you weren't educated about the Constitution, you wouldn't know.

00:40:10.000 That's called the banality of evil.

00:40:12.000 And then when they learn, they're like, oh, oh, oh, I'm not doing that anymore.

00:40:17.000 People will wake up.

00:40:18.000 You ever see that family guy joke where there's a murderer in prison and he's holding a knife and he pokes himself and goes, whoa, is that what I'm doing to people?

00:40:27.000 I deserve to be in here.

00:40:29.000 Like, as if they don't know.

00:40:30.000 I don't know, maybe.

00:40:31.000 Maybe, but it's just like, dude, look.

00:40:33.000 Your chicken poster just fell.

00:40:35.000 Oh no.

00:40:36.000 It's an omen.

00:40:37.000 The NSA's listening.

00:40:38.000 They literally are listening.

00:40:39.000 It's not a poster, it's a painting, okay?

00:40:41.000 It's a very nice painting.

00:40:42.000 I'll fix it in a second.

00:40:42.000 It's a Fed guy behind the wall with a glass, with a hearing glass.

00:40:46.000 Listen, there were, you know, You know what, I'm not going to use Nazi Germany as an example.

00:40:51.000 Let's use Soviet Russia. 0.88

00:40:52.000 There were a lot of people working for the Gulag who were just like, look, I don't know what this guy did.

00:40:58.000 They told me he's a bad guy.

00:41:00.000 And his crime was that he said we deserve better.

00:41:04.000 There's a guy sitting in his apartment and he's like looking at how awful everything is in the Soviet Union and he goes outside and he goes, I think we deserve better. 0.98

00:41:10.000 And then, you know, the gulag guy says, go arrest him.

00:41:14.000 And then some low-level dude, some low-level dude goes, he's a criminal.

00:41:18.000 I don't know.

00:41:18.000 You know?

00:41:20.000 Is that a good guy?

00:41:21.000 No, he's taking someone and putting them in what we call the gulag.

00:41:25.000 Or the cultural revolution in China, where literally there was walks of shame against capitalists, against individuals who had private property, because those were the ones that were responsible for everyone's pain and suffering, and they literally humiliated them, tortured them in public squares with people cheering it on.

00:41:43.000 Those are order followers.

00:41:45.000 Those are back-to-blue people that should be questioned.

00:41:47.000 That's the exact same thing they're doing to the J6 prisoners.

00:41:50.000 It's the same thing.

00:41:51.000 You gotta go and bend the knee and say that you don't like Trump, you don't believe in what he was saying, and humiliation.

00:42:00.000 But we just had MLK Day, right?

00:42:03.000 Under Trump, they released a letter from the FBI telling MLK to commit suicide.

00:42:09.000 I mean, this is what people have been saying, that the FBI is the one who killed him.

00:42:16.000 There's a civil court, there was a civil case in 1999 where a jury found the U.S.

00:42:21.000 government complicit in the assassination of MLK and the MLK family won that particular lawsuit.

00:42:27.000 I'm going to take their word for it.

00:42:27.000 Yes.

00:42:29.000 And so we have all this history.

00:42:31.000 Think of JFK and RFK. 0.56

00:42:34.000 They spied on MLK under the FBI.

00:42:37.000 The DOJ attorney general was RFK.

00:42:41.000 He signed off on it.

00:42:42.000 They have a picture of his signature.

00:42:43.000 The president was JFK.

00:42:45.000 These are the greatest civil rights Leaders of our time and they're the ones that spied on and told him to kill himself and then you know what they did?

00:42:51.000 Herbert Hoover was the director of the FBI.

00:42:53.000 They named the FBI building after him.

00:42:56.000 I just want to add to this.

00:42:59.000 Go ahead.

00:42:59.000 I was gonna say they put Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.

00:43:02.000 Exactly.

00:43:03.000 He hated the central banks.

00:43:05.000 And the FBI went further than that.

00:43:07.000 They make people worship the cross when that's the thing they kill them with?

00:43:10.000 But the Hoover thing is important here, because a lot of people are saying it was actually Hoover who was responsible for this, who had a lot of skeletons in his closet, and was allegedly also a crossdresser.

00:43:19.000 But the FBI did so many sinister things, especially under COINTELPROBE.

00:43:22.000 A lot of people don't even know this, but they had full-on disinformation Organizations and psyops running so people wouldn't organize together.

00:43:33.000 And what they did to the MLK wasn't just spying on him, wasn't just writing letters saying, hey, kill yourself.

00:43:38.000 They were watching his every move.

00:43:40.000 They knew that he cheated on his wife, took that information, and when MLK was in jail, they went to his wife and said, here's the evidence.

00:43:48.000 Here's the tapes of MLK talking to his mistress.

00:43:51.000 Divorce him.

00:43:52.000 That is just absolute evil.

00:43:54.000 Their number one tactic in a movement is to go in and divide it.

00:43:59.000 I want to pull up this story from Fox News.

00:44:01.000 A lot of people were talking about this.

00:44:03.000 The video of Greta Thunberg getting arrested, sending Twitter into a frenzy.

00:44:07.000 Time for many of us to stand up.

00:44:10.000 And you got this clip where she's being carried away with a smile on her face and then I don't know if we, yeah we do have it here, people are saying it's staged because you can see her laughing and smiling with some guy as the cops are just standing there with her and then they eventually just walk away and she's not being carried.

00:44:27.000 I don't think it's staged.

00:44:29.000 I don't.

00:44:30.000 The cops were probably told, OK, get the protesters out of here.

00:44:33.000 I think it was staged insofar as almost all nonviolent civil disobedience is staged, as in protesters will call the police and say, hey, we're going to go here, we're going to protest, just so you know.

00:44:40.000 Then the cops say, OK, we're going to come arrest you and say, OK.

00:44:42.000 And then you get press.

00:44:43.000 But here's the real story.

00:44:45.000 The real story is that Greta Thunberg's friends attacked a bunch of journalists.

00:44:48.000 Look at this from Andy Ngo.

00:44:50.000 At the Autonomous Zone in Luzerath, Germany, militant leftists and antifa and climate extremists surrounded and attacked journalists.

00:44:58.000 These are Greta Thunberg's friends, huh?

00:45:00.000 This is something I think people need to bring up because I'm not playing these games.

00:45:03.000 We've talked about the banality of evil.

00:45:05.000 If Greta Thunberg is going to be associating with these people, if she's going to be organizing protests and inviting these people, and if she will not call this out, then she is complicit and she supports it.

00:45:17.000 I remember playing eco-terrorism in Civilization 2.

00:45:21.000 It was my first exposure as a young man to eco-terrorism.

00:45:23.000 And I was like, oh, these people are protecting...

00:45:25.000 Civ 2?

00:45:26.000 Civ 2, you could create eco-terrorist characters.

00:45:28.000 Or it might have been the expansion to Civ 2.

00:45:29.000 It had to be an expansion.

00:45:30.000 And you could create a character that was an eco-terrorist that could go...

00:45:33.000 And I was like, oh, they're defending the planet, but they're called terrorists.

00:45:36.000 These are good units.

00:45:37.000 I want eco-terrorists in my army because they're valuable.

00:45:40.000 And I'm like, wait a minute.

00:45:42.000 Why do they call them terrorists if they're protecting the Earth?

00:45:44.000 But I think Greta is willing to use violence or associate with people using violence because she thinks it's that drastic.

00:45:50.000 Look at the flag!

00:45:51.000 You see that flag right there?

00:45:52.000 That's the flag of violent leftist violence.

00:45:56.000 And I mean, hey, there are times and places that people have been destroying things to the point where you have to use violence to stop them from destroying it.

00:46:03.000 But I don't think that the global ecosystem is in that state right now.

00:46:07.000 I'm not going to make a moral judgment on the protests.

00:46:12.000 I am going to make a fact statement.

00:46:14.000 Greta Thunberg's group violently attacked journalists.

00:46:18.000 Is it confirmed that they're all in the same group?

00:46:21.000 Were they just all there kind of disparately?

00:46:23.000 Disparately?

00:46:24.000 What does that even mean?

00:46:25.000 Like they were all there of their own volition, didn't know each other, but some people were violent, some other people there being lumped in.

00:46:30.000 There's one group protesting climate stuff.

00:46:34.000 Well, let's watch the video.

00:46:35.000 I didn't see the attack.

00:46:35.000 You know, what game I'm not going to play is that these leftists have long done this, where they quote-unquote respect a diversity of tactics, and then they will all feign ignorance and reject responsibility for what they organize, which is violent attacks on journalists.

00:46:56.000 It happens all the time.

00:46:58.000 And then you'll get an organization, and it'll be called like, you know, Save the Planet.

00:47:02.000 And then when Antifa shows up and gets violent, they go, oh, well, they're not with us.

00:47:05.000 Yes, they are.

00:47:06.000 Otherwise, you'd have kicked them out. 0.97

00:47:08.000 Otherwise, when that one crazy dude showed up in Portland and started doing the Nazi salute or whatever, they threw him out. 0.90

00:47:14.000 And then all the woke media ran pictures claiming he was at their event. 0.84

00:47:17.000 It's like, yeah, getting kicked out.

00:47:19.000 They said, get the F out.

00:47:21.000 They won't kick these people out.

00:47:22.000 They want them there to respect their diversity of tactics.

00:47:26.000 It concerns me, man.

00:47:26.000 Greenpeace, they would go, you know, sink boats and blow up Oil tankers?

00:47:31.000 I don't think Greenpeace ever did that.

00:47:33.000 They destroyed bridges?

00:47:35.000 They're pacifists.

00:47:36.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:47:38.000 I've seen eco-terrorists do that kind of thing.

00:47:41.000 Sea Shepherds are the ones that actually go and fight.

00:47:46.000 The French government bombed one of their boats or something like that.

00:47:50.000 I'm not saying Greenpeace are good dudes.

00:47:52.000 They will get water guns and they'll climb onto boats and they'll wave flags and do banner drops.

00:47:57.000 But I'm pretty sure Greenpeace isn't going around bombing anybody or anything like that.

00:48:00.000 No.

00:48:01.000 Sea shepherds attacked at sea.

00:48:02.000 Vessels attacked. 0.98

00:48:04.000 So these guys are known as... Yeah, those are pirates.

00:48:07.000 Yeah. 0.57

00:48:08.000 Butt pirates for Earth? 1.00

00:48:09.000 For planet Earth?

00:48:10.000 Well, there's like a whole South Park episode about it.

00:48:11.000 Did you say butt pirates, Ian? 0.55

00:48:12.000 I did say butt pirates. 0.99

00:48:13.000 Butt pirates for planet Earth. 0.98

00:48:15.000 Yeah.

00:48:15.000 Okay, so I still didn't see the the attack because I see a lot of social media posts that come up being like man Attacks dude in thing and I'm like, what did he do?

00:48:23.000 He got up in his face and yelled at him.

00:48:24.000 That's not attack Well, if you saw they're like threw down the smartphone that they're using to record they hear they kicked him in this video Yeah, kind of mild harassment stuff, you know That's one thing I give Antifa a little credit for is that they don't go too overboard They just kind of pepper spray and beat you up a little bit.

00:48:39.000 They don't actually shoot you or stab you and I You'll see the attack.

00:48:44.000 It's a person that no orange.

00:48:45.000 Dude with the.

00:48:46.000 Yeah, the dude in the orange is there.

00:48:47.000 There.

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:48.000 See that camera throwing the gear kicking.

00:48:51.000 See that camera.

00:48:52.000 It's it's out of what happened before to the guy.

00:48:54.000 Oh, come on, dude.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:48:55.000 I'm asking.

00:48:56.000 I'd love to see it.

00:48:57.000 I you know, you know what?

00:48:58.000 The one thing I can say is if I was going to have any sympathy for Antifa, it's because we all are sick and tired

00:49:04.000 of journalists because like.

00:49:06.000 They lie for corporations, they lie for advertisers, and if it's not them, it's their bosses who do it.

00:49:16.000 I get why Antifa's mad.

00:49:17.000 They hate journalists because journalists lie all the time.

00:49:19.000 But I'm opposed to violence.

00:49:21.000 So, like, if Greta Thunberg wants to go to some protest and associate with this, then I'm going to call it like I see it. 0.84

00:49:26.000 That's her group. 1.00

00:49:28.000 I'm not saying she organized that group.

00:49:30.000 I'm saying she's with them.

00:49:31.000 So you think she has a responsibility to speak out against this right now?

00:49:35.000 Absolutely.

00:49:36.000 Like, when that dude showed up in Portland, I forgot the guy's name, and he started yelling the N-word, they said, get out of here.

00:49:44.000 Like, dude.

00:49:46.000 It's tough, especially on the right, because the media will lie anyway.

00:49:50.000 And they will protect the left.

00:49:52.000 Right now, I assure you, Media Matters is writing something up where they're like, Tim Pool lies and claims Greta Thunberg is violent or something.

00:49:58.000 And that's the challenge.

00:50:00.000 But I'm not going to play any games.

00:50:02.000 If you are like, hey, everybody, meet me here. 0.87

00:50:05.000 And then a bunch of violent lunatics attack journalists?

00:50:09.000 And then you're like, don't look at me? 0.65

00:50:11.000 Put yourself in the reporter's shoes.

00:50:13.000 You're there to try to report.

00:50:15.000 Say you're coming from a good place, you're just trying to cover what's going on here because the corporate media is very sympathetic to what's happening here.

00:50:20.000 Al Gore is promoting Greta Thunberg today, right?

00:50:23.000 So you're there covering what's going on, and you got some people coming up, you don't know who they are, you don't know if they have weapons, start kicking you, slapping your camera, throwing you down, saying, get out of here, assaulting you, slapping you, punching you.

00:50:32.000 And whenever you put your hands on somebody, again, you shouldn't do that.

00:50:36.000 I covered a lot of different protests, faced a lot of different insane situations.

00:50:40.000 I got assaulted, I got jumped a couple times, I got beat up a couple times.

00:50:43.000 But the best thing that I saw was in Hong Kong where of course people there were protesting against the Chinese government.

00:50:49.000 The Chinese government was using fake press as a way to get photos and videos of protesters and then arrest them and ship them away forever.

00:50:56.000 What did the Hong Kong protesters do?

00:50:57.000 They didn't assault journalists.

00:50:59.000 They didn't beat them up.

00:51:00.000 But they figured out ways to kind of do their thing to of course have their face covered but also use umbrellas in a way that prevented any kind of conflict or escalations when they were changing into black blocks since they were using black block tactics.

00:51:14.000 They used it in a way to not force or hurt anyone but obfuscate their identity because there was a real threat for the Chinese government coming in and disappearing people.

00:51:23.000 And they did it in a way that we didn't need any of this nonsense, any of this kind of threat or assault of journalists, which we should always try to avoid and speak out against.

00:51:32.000 Let's not lose sight of the irony of a flag standing for anti-fascism beating up journalists for covering their... Well, I love that there's a meme where it's like a leftist yelling, just because the Nazis called themselves socialists doesn't mean they're socialists, and then holding the anti-fascist flag and be like, of course we're anti-fascists.

00:51:50.000 It's in our name.

00:51:51.000 Yeah.

00:51:52.000 I'll dig your word for it.

00:51:53.000 When you said the Hong Kong rebellion, what would you call that?

00:51:57.000 A resistance?

00:51:57.000 An uprising?

00:51:59.000 Well, the Chinese state was coming in and not keeping their promise that they had with the UK government that they were going to transition Hong Kong to China in a very slow way.

00:52:07.000 The Chinese government Did it in a very fast way and was, of course, also destroying a lot of key institutions in Hong Kong and a lot of the larger apparatuses and institutions that provided a lot of people liberty.

00:52:19.000 They were getting rid of that.

00:52:20.000 People protested and then there was a violent crackdown on the protests and it was just insane covering that situation because it was truly so much different than covering a lot of the Western protests that I've seen in Greece or in Paris or even inside of the United States where a lot of the things were were totally opposite each other.

00:52:39.000 I heard that they were putting crazy chemicals in, like, fire hoses with, like, blue ink and pepper, and they would spray it and stick it on your skin.

00:52:46.000 Yeah, sticks on your skin for a while.

00:52:48.000 And it makes you blue, so they know who's who.

00:52:49.000 I got hit with it a little bit, and I felt that stink for a very long time.

00:52:53.000 Some people were covered in it.

00:52:55.000 I just got hit with it a little bit, just covering the protest there.

00:52:57.000 I was there for some of the most violent, most insane interactions, where there was, you know, just people getting seriously hurt and dying on the streets. 0.95

00:53:06.000 These American and European Antifa are spoiled little brats. 1.00

00:53:10.000 Go to Turkey, go to Brazil. 0.91

00:53:13.000 It was an experience when I was in Brazil, because Luke and I have both been pepper sprayed and tear gassed ad nauseum, literally, throughout the United States.

00:53:21.000 And it's like, you get gassed, it sucks, you cough, whatever, you get pepper spray, when you're taking a shower later it burns.

00:53:27.000 When I was in Brazil, I was like, oh, they're tear gassing everybody.

00:53:30.000 And then as soon as the gas hit me, like my nose and eyes just like mucus tears.

00:53:37.000 It was like 10 times more powerful.

00:53:39.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 And it was just like your nose was just spraying mucus.

00:53:42.000 I took my sock off and jammed it in my mouth to be able to keep breathing. 0.98

00:53:46.000 And I was like, damn, it was bad. 0.99

00:53:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:53:49.000 In the United States, he was like the lowest tier irritant. 0.79

00:53:52.000 And it's just like... You know, other countries don't give a damn.

00:53:54.000 The reason I brought up... In Israel, especially in Gaza, they use like some very serious stuff.

00:54:03.000 Not just CS gas, but also there's like a skunk gun as well.

00:54:08.000 They use some next level stuff there, which is just crazy.

00:54:11.000 It concerns me that it's being tested on the The rioters, or what would you call them?

00:54:15.000 Protesters? 0.50

00:54:16.000 Okay, so you said they got black blocked.

00:54:17.000 They were dressing in black block in Hong Kong.

00:54:19.000 Do you think that was justified?

00:54:20.000 Were they violent?

00:54:21.000 Black block violence? 0.82

00:54:22.000 Depends on the circumstance and situation.

00:54:25.000 There was a couple instances where they stormed a government building.

00:54:30.000 They stormed Parliament.

00:54:31.000 There was also a couple instances where people were getting assaulted and beat up.

00:54:36.000 But not as much as, of course, a lot of the Western protests.

00:54:38.000 So there was that as well.

00:54:39.000 Do you think they were justified?

00:54:40.000 I don't think so.

00:54:41.000 I think anytime you try to use force and violence against someone else to enforce your ideas, you're losing, and you're in the wrong.

00:54:46.000 What about the American Revolution?

00:54:48.000 Well, that's a totally different thing.

00:54:49.000 That wasn't a protest, right?

00:54:50.000 Yeah, it started off as a protest in Boston Harbor.

00:54:53.000 But you have the right to defend it.

00:54:54.000 No, no, no, hold on.

00:54:55.000 The American Revolutionary period was 20 years.

00:54:58.000 It wasn't just a protest in Boston Harbor.

00:54:59.000 There was a whole bunch of stuff going on.

00:55:01.000 There was the Boston Massacre.

00:55:03.000 People were being killed.

00:55:04.000 Soldiers were barging into people's homes and taking people's food and sleeping there.

00:55:08.000 And then the founding fathers wrote sternly worded letters for years to the king being like, yo, please stop.

00:55:15.000 Yeah, you could argue that the British were the aggressors in that.

00:55:17.000 And the British were stopping US vessels on the high seas, kidnapping people and forcing

00:55:26.000 them into servitude of the crown.

00:55:28.000 So they were forced to fight, you could argue, but were they justified in their fight?

00:55:33.000 Even after that, the US is...

00:55:34.000 is like, okay, we're writing this letter to the king, I'm done with this.

00:55:37.000 And it's like, bro, they've been kidnapping people from boats, and you're writing a letter.

00:55:40.000 It was pretty measured.

00:55:41.000 But we got breaking news that I don't even know how to address.

00:55:44.000 The Daily Wire has uploaded a video, our offer to Stephen Crowder, I guess officially confirming that Daily Wire is who Steven Crowder was talking about.

00:55:59.000 Wow.

00:56:00.000 They put this up a couple minutes ago.

00:56:02.000 It's 52 minutes long.

00:56:03.000 We literally could not just play the video and watch it during the live show.

00:56:07.000 No way.

00:56:08.000 But I mean, it is what it is.

00:56:10.000 I mean, that's it.

00:56:11.000 What do the comments say?

00:56:12.000 Because that's usually how I get, you know, menus.

00:56:17.000 We'll play some of it.

00:56:18.000 I don't know if I can just show YouTube comments.

00:56:20.000 Well, we can play it for two minutes, maybe.

00:56:21.000 Let's play it for a couple minutes.

00:56:22.000 Just launched a new initiative called... I'll start over.

00:56:24.000 All right.

00:56:25.000 Our friend Steven Crowder has launched a new initiative called Stop Big Con.

00:56:29.000 And in the video announcing the launch of the project, he talked about leaving the blaze and all the different offers that he fielded from other conservative organizations and what he thought were the real problems with those offers.

00:56:41.000 And that's led a lot of people to speculate about whether or not the Daily Wire is one of the people who made him an offer.

00:56:46.000 In particular, are we the ones who made the offer that he put up on the screen and talked about?

00:56:52.000 At length.

00:56:53.000 And the answer is yes, that offer did come from The Daily Wire.

00:56:57.000 I'm not trying to hide that fact.

00:56:59.000 I'm not ashamed of that fact.

00:57:00.000 In fact, I think it's a very good offer.

00:57:02.000 But I think there's a lot of sort of misconceptions about the nature of the offer, the nature of the points.

00:57:08.000 I think Stephen misunderstood a lot of the points.

00:57:10.000 And so, the way we do here at The Daily Wire, we're just going to be incredibly transparent, you know, that we We like to have our members be a part of the journey.

00:57:17.000 We live stream all of our company town halls, for example.

00:57:21.000 We just find that sunlight sometimes is the best disinfectant.

00:57:24.000 And so, with that in mind, I'm going to talk to you a little bit about how we came to be in conversations with Stephen, how those conversations ended, and walk you just line by line through what the actual document that we sent over.

00:57:36.000 Well, I'll skip ahead a little bit.

00:57:37.000 We'll only watch a little bit, but I'll jump right to where we can see he's begun addressing the contract, and we'll look at a few of his points.

00:57:42.000 You know, in order to properly address this breaking story, we'd have to have watched the hour-long video in advance, like with Crowder's video.

00:57:49.000 We don't have that luxury because we're live now and it's happening, but let's play a little bit and see what he says.

00:57:52.000 Would.

00:57:53.000 And so we anticipated that and we said, Crowder will bear the burden of production, including all costs associated therewith, on all the content contemplated herein, except on the quarterly and annual content contemplated below.

00:58:06.000 We'll get to that part a little bit later.

00:58:08.000 It's kind of a novel concept.

00:58:10.000 The quality of the production will be as good as, or better, than his currently existing content.

00:58:15.000 Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, Two to three times that.

00:58:39.000 I mean, maybe not three times that, maybe two times that.

00:58:43.000 Here's my third-party statement to both Stephen Crowd and The Daily Wire.

00:58:47.000 Daily Wire, you didn't offer enough money.

00:58:48.000 Maybe you couldn't afford to.

00:58:50.000 Stephen, if you launch your own company, you will make ten times that.

00:58:54.000 So I wonder if that's the issue.

00:58:55.000 Like, Stephen looks at this and he's like, $50 million over four years is not worth it.

00:58:59.000 Because you've got to understand, that's got to pay his employees.

00:59:03.000 And staff, and costs, and overhead, and insurance, and lawyers, and legal fees, and lawsuits.

00:59:10.000 Million bucks a month.

00:59:10.000 Pre-tax!

00:59:11.000 Bear the burden of production, it says right there.

00:59:12.000 Then there's taxes.

00:59:14.000 So he's getting $600,000 a month.

00:59:16.000 Bear the cost of He said theft, not taxes.

00:59:21.000 It's not because if Crowder's production costs are $600,000 a month, then he's only profiting $400,000 and then he's paying $150,000 in taxes.

00:59:31.000 Taxes are a wild thing, dude.

00:59:33.000 So that was right there.

00:59:35.000 I mean, that's kind of, there we go.

00:59:37.000 We now know what the fee is.

00:59:39.000 So the question is, Man, four years, that's heavy.

00:59:42.000 Well, wasn't the total like $200 million or something we said yesterday?

00:59:44.000 What was the total we ended up talking about?

00:59:46.000 I mean, hyperinflation, that's going to be nothing.

00:59:48.000 You have to adjust this for inflation over the period in order for a contract like that. 0.96

00:59:54.000 The real inflation, not the fake inflation government numbers that are actually full of crap. 0.75

00:59:58.000 I know Jeremy Boring. 0.76

00:59:59.000 I think he's a good dude.

01:00:01.000 We've talked about potential things we could work on and deals we could do and, you know, a lot of people were speculating back when we went and visited the Daily Wire in Nashville.

01:00:10.000 We did that week-long thing.

01:00:11.000 They were like, oh, Tim's gonna sign with the Daily Wire.

01:00:13.000 It's like, no, I don't think there was ever a possibility that we would be a Daily Wire thing.

01:00:18.000 It was more like, I'll tell you guys straight up exactly what's going on.

01:00:22.000 Every different way we distribute content is monetized in different ways through different, you know, partners.

01:00:28.000 Some people specialize in ads only for podcasts.

01:00:31.000 Some people specialize in ads only for YouTube.

01:00:33.000 And so, you know, for instance, our podcast side of things, like iTunes, Spotify, I'm an expert in those spaces.

01:00:41.000 I know YouTube much better.

01:00:43.000 And so we have third parties that work with us.

01:00:46.000 So I've talked to them like, hey, can you guys help us with this?

01:00:48.000 Because we know we're not doing a good job.

01:00:49.000 That's the kind of stuff we've talked about.

01:00:51.000 And being able to go to a company like The Daily Wire and literally talk with their CEO and have him just be very candid and like the, I gotta tell you, like of all the business meetings I've had, the easiest one was with The Daily Wire, because it ultimately ended like, okay, well, you know, maybe we can't work on this now, but we'll figure something out.

01:01:09.000 We'll hang out sometime.

01:01:10.000 Good hearing from you, man.

01:01:11.000 I've worked with, the first contract I was ever offered was from, well, I'll leave, I'll leave it, I'll leave him out of it.

01:01:19.000 It was a big agency, it was one of the big talent agencies.

01:01:21.000 They represent people you've heard of on Fox News, and they give me like a 70-page book contract to read.

01:01:28.000 And I'm looking, I'm like, and I'm like, this is a joke, right?

01:01:31.000 And it's like, no, no, no, don't worry, it's standard.

01:01:33.000 And I'm like, dude, you come to a guy who's like an up-and-comer in the space.

01:01:38.000 It was a five-year contract.

01:01:40.000 I know the game they were playing.

01:01:42.000 It was going to lock up everything, it was going to own me for five years and leave me with nothing.

01:01:46.000 And I couldn't afford to hire a lawyer to read that many pages, so I threw it in the trash and said, have a nice day.

01:01:52.000 Not interested in wasting my time.

01:01:53.000 That is almost every negotiation with every company I've done.

01:01:57.000 The Daily Wire was like literally I sat down with Jeremy and we talked about how we could do things.

01:02:03.000 And I thought it went well.

01:02:04.000 That being said, These contracts don't work.

01:02:07.000 It says like right here, you can see right here, Crowder will deliver a 1.5 hour long Loud Earth Crowder audio show of equality and the kind of blah blah blah blah.

01:02:15.000 They have to say that.

01:02:17.000 Because they don't want to sign a deal with you and then have you drop the quality to save money, but then all of a sudden if you're someone like Crowder and you're like, you wanna own what?

01:02:26.000 You want to own everything?

01:02:27.000 And they're like, I'm not going to give you $12 million per year without the right to distribute the content to make money on it.

01:02:34.000 You just can't do these deals, man.

01:02:36.000 Yeah, these are old archaic contracts that don't make sense.

01:02:39.000 Ian made that point yesterday, and it was a very good point.

01:02:41.000 My question is, how many eggs were the Daily Wire team going to be paying Crowder with?

01:02:46.000 Is that in the contract as well?

01:02:48.000 Because that's a commodity there.

01:02:50.000 That I think is an important one during these very difficult and inflationary times.

01:02:55.000 Let me play a little bit more.

01:02:56.000 We've been at Blaze.

01:02:58.000 Well, he would still do that same kind of concept.

01:03:01.000 30 minutes of the show would now be behind our paywall.

01:03:04.000 Crowder can bank or pre-record a limited number of episodes upon our approval and reasonable discretion.

01:03:10.000 Days without new original episodes will be scheduled in advance subject to our reasonable approval.

01:03:14.000 What's this about?

01:03:15.000 Well, I like Crowder.

01:03:17.000 In addition to his four weeks.

01:03:19.000 I think The Daily Wire should just publish a link to the contract.

01:03:24.000 For sure.

01:03:24.000 Because he's already shown, and he's going through a whole bunch of stuff, and I think Crowder opened the door.

01:03:29.000 When Crowder showed that portion, he actually said, don't make me bring the receipts.

01:03:34.000 So The Daily Wire responds with, okay, let's go through some of the contract.

01:03:37.000 At this point, I'm like, okay, dude, just publish it.

01:03:40.000 Because the fee being released is huge.

01:03:45.000 Here's what I think, Stephen Crowder, man, here's the challenge.

01:03:51.000 Joe Rogan's deal, what did it turn out to be?

01:03:52.000 It was initially reported as $100 million and then it was revealed later $200 million.

01:03:57.000 We don't know how many years that's over or what it does include.

01:04:00.000 Is it stock or things like that?

01:04:01.000 I don't know for sure.

01:04:03.000 Or is it the old episodes too or is it the entire podcast?

01:04:06.000 Is it the first episode to the last episode?

01:04:08.000 I think it did include old episodes.

01:04:09.000 That's a lot.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, it got him off the... Joe Rogan had the number one spot on iTunes, the premier podcast platform, and he sold that.

01:04:18.000 That makes sense.

01:04:20.000 You know, Spotify says, look, we're gonna give you $200 million over X years.

01:04:23.000 I don't know how many years it was.

01:04:24.000 I'd imagine it wasn't four, but it could have been.

01:04:26.000 And so you imagine Joe's then getting $50 million a year for his show.

01:04:29.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:04:30.000 Steven Crowder's show is, he's not Joe Rogan, but I mean, come on, like 12.5 per year?

01:04:37.000 50 million over four years?

01:04:39.000 He's not a quarter of Joe Rogan.

01:04:41.000 He's half or more.

01:04:43.000 And considering what we're talking about, arguably comparable.

01:04:46.000 Joe Rogan reaches a certain kind of audience and he's huge.

01:04:48.000 We get it.

01:04:49.000 But Steven Crowder motivates people more.

01:04:52.000 I'd be willing to bet that a Crowder Adreed will sell 10 times more than a Rogan Adreed.

01:04:59.000 No offense to Rogan, but Crowder's a culture warrior.

01:05:06.000 When he goes out and he says, guys, you gotta get this thing because these are the companies that believe in us, people are going to be like, yes. 0.87

01:05:13.000 When Joe Rogan says, I shave my balls, here's the thing I use, some people are going to be like, that's cool. 0.87

01:05:18.000 I like Onnit. 0.99

01:05:19.000 Or his Fleshlight that he was supporting. 0.61

01:05:21.000 Looking at it from Daily Wire's perspective, they're putting $50 million down.

01:05:24.000 They want to make profit on this too.

01:05:26.000 So they're anticipating, yes, it's worth at least $50 million and then probably at least 50% on top of that.

01:05:32.000 You know, and that's where, you know, ballparking, like, I agree with you.

01:05:36.000 I think what, you know, being independent in this space is the best way to do it.

01:05:41.000 I think it's the best environment for a true creative.

01:05:43.000 I think it's the best upside on the profitability.

01:05:45.000 And there's so many business opportunities being created in this sector, which is relatively new, really has just blossomed in the last two to three years.

01:05:55.000 So, you know, Crowder might be looking at, okay, what am I, Looking at the next two or three years, he's going to be doing this for 30, 40 years, potentially, if he wants to.

01:06:03.000 Here's the thing about any of these deals.

01:06:05.000 A couple years ago, we had one of the big networks come to us and say, let's do a deal.

01:06:10.000 We were relatively smaller, but we haven't grown that much.

01:06:14.000 We've grown a lot, but in terms of revenue and stuff, as a company, we're doing a lot better.

01:06:20.000 But they basically all say, we'll own it.

01:06:23.000 Everything you do, we own.

01:06:24.000 And I'm just like, not interested.

01:06:25.000 Because I'm going to do a three-year deal with you, right?

01:06:27.000 That's what you're asking.

01:06:28.000 You're coming to me saying three years.

01:06:29.000 At the end of it, you walk away, you keep your brand, you keep your name, we keep everything else.

01:06:35.000 I'm not interested in doing that.

01:06:37.000 I already have my own channels.

01:06:38.000 I already have my own brand.

01:06:39.000 I already have a membership platform.

01:06:41.000 Why would I just give that to you in exchange for what?

01:06:44.000 Comparable amounts of money? 1.00

01:06:45.000 That's the stupidest thing ever. 1.00

01:06:46.000 I think, as you said, Rogan, it's like a new entertainment environment. 1.00

01:06:50.000 It's a new business model opportunity.

01:06:53.000 So many different ways to make money in this space. 0.97

01:06:55.000 And now the parasites have come out as well. 0.92

01:06:57.000 And I'm not calling anyone particular. 0.87

01:06:58.000 I'm just saying the parasitic nature of business has aroused... It happened in 2006.

01:07:02.000 I was doing internet YouTube videos.

01:07:04.000 And once I got like 10,000... No, no.

01:07:07.000 Once I started getting like It's 1,000, 1,500 views per video.

01:07:11.000 I started getting emails and messages.

01:07:12.000 Hey, we can take your channel to the next level.

01:07:15.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I want to make some money off you.

01:07:18.000 Hey, say this thing I want you to say.

01:07:20.000 And they're like, let me.

01:07:22.000 That's the end of it.

01:07:23.000 I want to play this clip.

01:07:24.000 I think he talks about the fee here.

01:07:25.000 This is the most important part.

01:07:27.000 Now here's this section that I know Steven was very offended by.

01:07:30.000 And I think he misunderstood and therefore misrepresented.

01:07:34.000 Fee reductions.

01:07:36.000 There's a different fee reduction for all those kinds of contents we've created.

01:07:39.000 Daily content.

01:07:40.000 If he fails for any reason to deliver 192 episodes of the daily show, or if he fails to include the ads that we agreed to or the promotions that we agreed to in those episodes, then we'll give a $100,000 reduction every time.

01:07:56.000 What's that about?

01:07:57.000 Well, again, you can't pay someone any amount of money, but you certainly can't pay them An unimaginably huge amount of money for their show, and then not get the show.

01:08:09.000 So what this is saying is, you don't have to produce a show every day.

01:08:11.000 You don't have to produce 260, or 250, or 240, or 230, or 220, or 210 episodes a year.

01:08:18.000 You've got to produce 192 episodes a year.

01:08:19.000 You can film some of them in advance.

01:08:21.000 You can stack them up.

01:08:22.000 All of that's contemplated in there.

01:08:24.000 You can shoot on a Friday so that you can take two days off next week.

01:08:27.000 But if you don't give us 192 episodes, we can't pay you the same amount of money as if you did give us.

01:08:33.000 Now, hold on there a minute.

01:08:34.000 If it's $12.5 per year with 192 episodes, that's $65,000 per episode, not $100,000.

01:08:40.000 And so the fee is bigger than the revenue.

01:08:42.000 The fee is punitive.

01:08:44.000 Which is a weird payment structure, so that seems kind of punishing.

01:08:50.000 You would typically want to do a payment structure that's more affirmative, like, hey, After every 10 episodes, we will pay you blank.

01:08:59.000 So you kind of truncate it into smaller.

01:09:01.000 It sounds like they're doing just a big advance up front.

01:09:04.000 Right.

01:09:04.000 If you're doing a guarantee of X per year, I understand what the Daily Wire is trying to do, but I will push back and say, What the contract should say, and they could be doing the big ask, it could be a Trump move, where they don't want Crowder to negotiate a net benefit they want to break even.

01:09:21.000 So they say $100k expecting Crowder to come back and say, no, no, no, no, pro-rate divided by the fee for the year.

01:09:27.000 So it should say, in my opinion, this is how I do the count, I'd say, what are we paying you $12,500 a year?

01:09:32.000 192 episodes?

01:09:32.000 Okay.

01:09:35.000 Any episode you miss, we deduct one unit division into that fee.

01:09:40.000 So whatever that breaks down to, $65,000.

01:09:43.000 You miss an episode or you miss an ad read, we will remove 65 from your guarantee.

01:09:51.000 Basically, we are buying 192 episodes for 12.5 per year.

01:09:53.000 If you don't deliver one, we prorate you.

01:09:56.000 But the argument is, it's the library itself is worth more than the sum of the parts.

01:10:02.000 So the one show by itself, then you have 20 shows, they're worth more than 1 20th each because they create, you know.

01:10:09.000 So I can see why they upped the fee.

01:10:11.000 We'll let Jeremy continue, because I don't want to cut him off if he's going to make important context to part of the conversation.

01:10:16.000 192 episodes.

01:10:17.000 So this is just, yeah, you give us 192 times 4 minus 1, then out of your 50 million, we're hitting minus 100,000.

01:10:26.000 No, no, no, no.

01:10:28.000 He said 192 times four minus one, that we're taking 100,000 out of 50 million.

01:10:34.000 Yeah, yeah, look, man, that doesn't add up.

01:10:37.000 Yeah, what's 50 million, 192?

01:10:39.000 It's gonna be 65, 104.

01:10:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:41.000 Because, you know, basically what it breaks down to.

01:10:42.000 So that doesn't quite add up.

01:10:45.000 That being said, the Daily Wire offering a steep fee as a means to say, like, don't drop shows, I also understand.

01:10:54.000 They don't want to do a deal where they make a guarantee and then one day Crowder says, well, you know, I don't lose anything if I back out on this deal, right?

01:11:02.000 If Ian and I do a deal and then Ian's relying on me to make a profit, and there's no penalty other than I don't get paid for the 0.83

01:11:11.000 day but Ian gets screwed over, well that's going to suck. So again, I think it may be

01:11:16.000 reasonable to say something like $70,000, so you will get a $5,000 hit on your overall minimum

01:11:23.000 because we don't want to create an opportunity for you to just be like, I guess I'm not going

01:11:27.000 to do a show today because I don't feel You know what I mean?

01:11:30.000 You know what I think they're factoring into that is their costs for their production and their licensing and distribution.

01:11:35.000 So $100,000, so $65,000 is for Crowder, $35,000 is probably what they estimate their cost per episode.

01:11:39.000 That's actually a really good point.

01:11:40.000 That's actually a really fair point.

01:11:43.000 In order to distribute and make money off of what they're buying from Crowder, they're gonna have their own crew doing all of this stuff as well.

01:11:49.000 Editing.

01:11:50.000 Right.

01:11:52.000 And that means if they've got 300 employees, and they've got 10 allocated to proper promotion

01:11:58.000 distribution, making clips, uploading to the website,

01:12:02.000 monitoring for bugs, doing the backend stuff, because they're a lot bigger.

01:12:06.000 Maybe 100 does make sense.

01:12:08.000 I certainly think you factor that in, and you factor their loss of profits in.

01:12:13.000 So they're basically saying, we're paying you 65,

01:12:17.000 we're also going to lose 10, because we can't do our sales.

01:12:20.000 Our employees showed up to work.

01:12:21.000 Our employees showed up.

01:12:22.000 Also, the people who bought the ads are going to come to us angry.

01:12:26.000 So that's actually an interesting point.

01:12:28.000 Fair point.

01:12:29.000 You know?

01:12:30.000 I don't think we can go through this whole thing though, so I don't know if there's any other... I'm going to do it later.

01:12:33.000 It's a tough deal.

01:12:34.000 You know what?

01:12:36.000 I'm very curious to see what Crowder says, if there's anything else.

01:12:39.000 But to me, this just seems like business, tough business.

01:12:44.000 It's a lot of money.

01:12:44.000 There's high stakes, and people want to make sure that their investments are protected.

01:12:49.000 So I'm not necessarily anti-Daily Wire on this, but I am curious.

01:12:53.000 I'm sure there's a 50-minute video.

01:12:55.000 Crowder's got his whole experience going through this, so there's a lot more to this, I'm sure.

01:12:59.000 This is actually really awesome, that transparency is incredible.

01:13:03.000 It's so good for the business environment.

01:13:06.000 I mean, here's a challenge for The Daily Wire.

01:13:08.000 A lot of people are saying, like, you should have said anything.

01:13:10.000 He didn't mention you.

01:13:11.000 Bro, everybody was saying it was The Daily Wire.

01:13:13.000 And then now The Daily Wire has no opportunity to explain.

01:13:17.000 No, they basically have no choice.

01:13:19.000 And hey, it's good promotion.

01:13:20.000 But Crowder was talking about how, not necessarily these figures, wasn't it that they were like partnering with the bad guys or something?

01:13:31.000 Well, his complaint was that, uh, let me see if I can actually find the part where he'll talk about it, I imagine.

01:13:37.000 He said the big con and that they're working with Big Tech.

01:13:40.000 Here we go.

01:13:41.000 He said something like that.

01:13:42.000 Look, if Crowder is boycotted.

01:13:44.000 If Crowder is boycotted or dropped by more than 50% of his then-extant advertising partners, that is, if 50% of the money that he's making from advertisers is suddenly gone, And we're not able to replace that revenue within 90 days.

01:14:00.000 Then his fee will be reduced by 25% until such time as the ad revenue has been restored for a period of time.

01:14:06.000 That is giving Crowder free money!

01:14:06.000 Whoa!

01:14:09.000 That's insane!

01:14:12.000 Think about that for two seconds.

01:14:14.000 If Crowder's revenue is dropped by 50% from his advertising partners, plural, Wait, hold on.

01:14:21.000 If he's dropped by more than 50% of his then-advertising partners, they will reduce his fee by only $25,000?

01:14:27.000 Which is what, $250,000 a year-ish?

01:14:28.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:14:30.000 Well, potentially.

01:14:31.000 So it's potentially advertising insurance, it sounds like, but 50% of his revenue may not necessarily equate to his fees.

01:14:39.000 Is he making more than $250,000 a year in ad revenue?

01:14:39.000 Right.

01:14:42.000 What's his ad revenue compared to the fee?

01:14:43.000 You know, 25% of That's a nice grace period.

01:14:46.000 So it could be they don't include membership partners, but they're also giving him 90 days.

01:14:51.000 Meaning if something happens- That's a nice grace period, three months to figure it out.

01:14:55.000 That means Crowder could be making half the revenue for three months and they still won't charge him

01:15:02.000 a fee or a penalty.

01:15:03.000 What I don't like from Steve's perspective is it makes him rely on advertisers still, which is, I think he's trying to get away from that, being reliant on advertisers and if his contract forces him.

01:15:14.000 If I was going to do a deal with someone, I would say, if your content gets boycotted, your fee will be reduced commensurate to the amount of money lost from those boycotts.

01:15:25.000 And that's the crazy thing.

01:15:27.000 We share the risk.

01:15:28.000 Well, or, yeah, I mean, we can give you a guarantee, but if there's no money coming in, like, there's no money to guarantee you.

01:15:34.000 That is, to me, like, a little bit of a float.

01:15:36.000 Daily Wire, you know, they're almost a creditor in that instance.

01:15:40.000 That came off as, like, Here's the important part.

01:15:47.000 I didn't expect the Daily Wire to offer something like that, to be honest.

01:15:50.000 It's money or not, and then we lose the business as a result.

01:15:54.000 And now, no one pays Steven anything, and no one releases Steven's content.

01:15:58.000 He has to go build it all from scratch in crisis.

01:16:01.000 Ban.

01:16:02.000 The crowder content cannot be released on any of the major platforms because of its content being banned from those platforms.

01:16:09.000 Then we'll reduce the fee if YouTube 20, if Apple 20, if Facebook 10, if Spotify 10.

01:16:14.000 Same kind of concept.

01:16:16.000 If the content simply cannot appear, and therefore cannot not only be used for marketing, cannot be used to grow the brand, also can't be monetized, well, we can't pay him the same as if it was.

01:16:24.000 If you're making 25% of your money on YouTube, and now YouTube is permanently gone, you can't make that money anymore.

01:16:31.000 It's not punishment.

01:16:32.000 And this is really what it comes down to.

01:16:35.000 You can pay him, Jimmy.

01:16:37.000 You just would run it at a loss if you did.

01:16:39.000 You can, though.

01:16:40.000 I deserve to be paid millions and millions and millions of dollars Whether my show drives the revenue or not.

01:16:48.000 I gotta pause right there and say, Jeremy, yeah, that's the point.

01:16:52.000 The reason Steven Crowder wants to do a deal with you is so that you assume the risk and he doesn't.

01:16:58.000 And this is why I'm saying these contracts don't make sense.

01:17:02.000 Because what Jeremy is saying makes sense from Jeremy's perspective, but it doesn't make sense from the perspective of anybody who wants to do a deal.

01:17:08.000 It would be like, It would be like someone saying, you know, Luke, I'm going to buy your RV off you.

01:17:15.000 And then if it breaks, I'm not giving you the money.

01:17:20.000 Like, well, hold on.

01:17:21.000 They always break.

01:17:22.000 No, but my point is like... Put in the contract.

01:17:24.000 Crowder's basically saying, like, I don't want to worry about this.

01:17:27.000 I don't want to worry about the risk, the revenue.

01:17:28.000 You figure it out.

01:17:30.000 And then Jeremy says, OK, but if it breaks, we're not going to pay you.

01:17:33.000 I mean, I think that's reasonable.

01:17:35.000 If you buy it or you don't.

01:17:36.000 If Steven wants to offload the risk, then he's offloading a huge chunk of the income.

01:17:42.000 I mean, that's the risk is a big part of why he's worth so much is because it's on his shoulders.

01:17:46.000 The deal can't exist.

01:17:49.000 This is why I was saying like, when I said Crowder was right about everything

01:17:51.000 with these contracts.

01:17:52.000 Like, and I like the Daily Wire guys.

01:17:54.000 I think Jeremy's a good dude.

01:17:55.000 And I think Jeremy is doing right as a business, but it doesn't make sense for Crowder to sell

01:18:02.000 what he has to basically hear you're in the exact same position.

01:18:08.000 We don't assume the same level of risk.

01:18:10.000 Like, you're gonna face the same risks.

01:18:14.000 If you get a strike, you don't get paid.

01:18:15.000 I do think there's some guarantees, like I'll point this out.

01:18:19.000 If he gets banned by YouTube, they only dock his fee by 20%.

01:18:23.000 That's actually, I mean that structure right there, I think is actually really great.

01:18:28.000 That is, the Daily Wire is doing some good things.

01:18:32.000 YouTube, is a larger portion of revenue and viewership.

01:18:37.000 So when it comes to direct sponsorships, you'll make more off a YouTube read

01:18:40.000 than a podcast read to a certain extent.

01:18:44.000 But podcasts in the long run will make more money.

01:18:47.000 It's hard to explain.

01:18:49.000 Like you get more views on YouTube, so you can sell a package for more.

01:18:54.000 Equal to the number of views though, the CPMs are lower.

01:18:58.000 So for them to break it down this way actually seems like... There is some stuff being taken off Crowder's shoulder in terms of risk.

01:19:05.000 I wonder what his angle is when he says they're basically partnering with big tech to take... This is it.

01:19:13.000 He gets penalized if he breaks YouTube's rules.

01:19:16.000 But is he thinking that Daily Wire is going to sabotage him so that they are able to pay Crowder less?

01:19:24.000 He seemed very angry about it.

01:19:26.000 To me, this doesn't strike me as them partnering up with Big Tech to take down Crowder.

01:19:32.000 Yeah, he was kind of alluding to that.

01:19:34.000 We definitely need more clarification for it, because, let's be honest here, The Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro do get suggested a lot on Facebook.

01:19:43.000 If you look at the most shared links from Facebook, it's usually The Daily Wire.

01:19:48.000 And a lot of people are asking, that's kind of weird, you know?

01:19:51.000 That's kind of, you know, what's going on here?

01:19:53.000 And then we have these statements by Crowder, so, you know, there's obviously a lot more questions here.

01:19:58.000 Zuckerberg's a huge conservative, turns out.

01:20:00.000 I didn't know.

01:20:02.000 I have far more questions than answers.

01:20:03.000 This stuff, working in Hollywood contracts, there's no market standard, especially in this burgeoning industry.

01:20:13.000 So it's really fascinating to see a little bit of the inside information, because now you can say, all right, I'm this X percent compared to Crowder.

01:20:20.000 It gives you a chance to... But people are making this up as we go.

01:20:24.000 What is a market standard for a contract?

01:20:26.000 It's all black box in Hollywood.

01:20:28.000 Dude, I...

01:20:30.000 I know everybody, there's a lot of people commenting on that video saying, I stan with Steven Crowder.

01:20:36.000 I just feel so bad for the Daily Wire, because they're not bad people, and they're trying really hard.

01:20:43.000 They're not the hardest of culture warriors like we or Crowder are, but I don't think they're bad guys who are doing bad things.

01:20:50.000 I think Candace is hard culture warrior like you and Crowder. 1.00

01:20:53.000 That's true, that's a fair point.

01:20:54.000 But Jeremy, he's not all business.

01:20:55.000 Matt Walsh.

01:20:56.000 But he's in the business.

01:20:57.000 Matt's a warrior.

01:20:58.000 And what is a woman was extremely important.

01:21:01.000 That was a tremendously powerful and very important thing.

01:21:03.000 But when you say daily wire, you got to talk about who owns daily wire.

01:21:06.000 It's, it's Jeremy, Ben, you know, and Jeremy's in the business aspect.

01:21:09.000 He's not a culture warrior.

01:21:10.000 I want to clarify what I said.

01:21:12.000 I feel bad for him.

01:21:13.000 I don't feel bad necessarily about this.

01:21:15.000 Like, dude, you offer a big name, a contract that pisses them off.

01:21:17.000 Don't be surprised if they come and they get mad at you about it and they can wag around and be like, this is a terrible contract.

01:21:22.000 I feel bad because how do you compete with the likes of Disney?

01:21:27.000 How do you do it?

01:21:28.000 It's like, Disney will get people to sign up, no matter what, because they own Flubber.

01:21:35.000 Because they own decades of American cultural history.

01:21:40.000 And the Daily Wire's gotta build it.

01:21:42.000 And it's probably just 10 times harder than managing Disney.

01:21:47.000 I mean, look at what they're doing with all the Marvel stuff.

01:21:50.000 Regurgitated remakes, etc, etc.

01:21:54.000 And the Daily Wire has to navigate this space.

01:21:56.000 And you know what the worst possible thing is?

01:21:59.000 What was the big hit for the Daily Wire?

01:22:01.000 Yeah, what is a woman? 1.00

01:22:02.000 That Matt Walsh documentary.

01:22:03.000 And what about Gina Carano's film?

01:22:05.000 I didn't see it.

01:22:06.000 Terra on the Prairie?

01:22:07.000 Yeah.

01:22:08.000 So the issue is, the Daily Wire is trying to break the cultural mold, take the space,

01:22:14.000 and to an extent it's working.

01:22:15.000 I mean, they have a million paying monthly members, so they're building it up.

01:22:19.000 They're what, 20 times smaller than Netflix is.

01:22:22.000 But did we hear about how tremendously amazing Terra on the Prairie was?

01:22:25.000 Did we see groundbreaking virality?

01:22:28.000 No, but What Is A Woman did. 1.00

01:22:29.000 The problem is What Is A Woman is political. 1.00

01:22:31.000 That means The Daily Wire is still trapped in their pigeonhole.

01:22:34.000 And if they're going to have the cultural impact that we actually need them to have, they need to get bigger hits in different areas that are very, very difficult to do.

01:22:41.000 They need their own Mickey Mouse.

01:22:43.000 I will say just looking at that contract, assuming that's the primary contract, it's a very simple, like simplified contract.

01:22:50.000 They get far more verbose, far more carve-outs and exceptions and preconditions.

01:22:56.000 So again, I'm not taking a side on this because I don't have enough information.

01:23:01.000 I am definitely very curious to hear what Crowder's perspective is though.

01:23:05.000 Someone superchatted, remember Crowder is bringing in 300,000 subs at 10 bucks a month.

01:23:10.000 That's 36 million a year.

01:23:11.000 Crowder, let me see, sorry, gotta scroll.

01:23:14.000 Crowder wants band protection and is wanting a distribution partner.

01:23:19.000 I agree.

01:23:19.000 I don't know that we can guarantee Crowder will bring in 300,000.

01:23:23.000 I think it's possible, but more than that, I think from a contract perspective, if someone came to me and said, look, If Ian came to me and said, bring me on the show and I guarantee you 10,000 new paying monthly members, I'd be like, you can't guarantee me that.

01:23:37.000 I can look at your metrics and then make a bet.

01:23:40.000 And if I'm wrong, I lose a lot of money.

01:23:42.000 I don't know if I'd wanna do that.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, there'd have to be some cash incentive if I was gonna guarantee a subscriber count or something.

01:23:48.000 But I also do think, from a practical standpoint, Steven Crowder likely will bring in 300,000 to 500,000 new paying monthly members at 10 bucks a month, in which case, Yeah, this contract's not good.

01:23:59.000 You made an interesting observation that he might be concerned that with the 20% if he gets banned off YouTube, 20% if he gets banned, that if Daily Wire is in charge of the edit and the post, that they could put something up that would put him in a light that would get him banned and then be able to cut his salary by 20%.

01:24:13.000 He's very nervous about their affiliation with Big Tech.

01:24:17.000 And that, to me, has not been addressed in this.

01:24:21.000 We saw the provision, but to me it doesn't really... Where's Crowder getting... He was very upset, very nervous about that.

01:24:28.000 I don't see it yet.

01:24:29.000 I don't know what he's focused on.

01:24:30.000 Crowder needs to do his own thing.

01:24:32.000 Because like I said the other day, I think Crowder would make 10 million bucks a month.

01:24:37.000 People are saying 36 million a year.

01:24:38.000 I disagree.

01:24:40.000 Based on how big Crowder is, based on what he was able to do with Rumble with the midterms, he had like seven or eight times the amount of viewers we had.

01:24:53.000 I think we ended up with, I don't remember how many, 60, 70,000.

01:24:56.000 On Rumble?

01:24:56.000 He had 500,000.

01:24:57.000 On Rumble.

01:24:59.000 Special shout out to Dave Landau.

01:25:02.000 That lovable little garden gnome.

01:25:06.000 I love you, brother.

01:25:07.000 I love you, man.

01:25:08.000 You're so awesome, dude.

01:25:09.000 I think Crowder should launch his independent mug club and ten bucks a month.

01:25:15.000 Honestly, it might need to be a little bit more than that because of costs these days.

01:25:19.000 No, seriously, like bandwidth costs, especially if you're going to do anything live.

01:25:22.000 But ten bucks a month probably would work.

01:25:24.000 I think he'd probably get between $300,000 and $500,000.

01:25:26.000 He'd be making $5 million a month with no ads.

01:25:31.000 None.

01:25:32.000 Just off serves.

01:25:33.000 Yeah.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, back-end hosting is expensive.

01:25:36.000 These are the numbers that the contract should be working out.

01:25:38.000 We're going to cover hosting.

01:25:40.000 We mentioned that last night.

01:25:41.000 Do tech contracts with these actors, these performers, so that you cover their back-end expenditure.

01:25:47.000 I'm doing the math in my head right now.

01:25:49.000 I think 300k is a good estimate.

01:25:51.000 It's a good estimate.

01:25:53.000 So what needs to happen in this contract is Crowder should probably say, here's what I would do.

01:26:00.000 I go through all of it and I would say, oh, you want all these things?

01:26:02.000 My answer to you is yes.

01:26:04.000 And we're going to add one paragraph.

01:26:05.000 I get 80% of memberships.

01:26:08.000 And then they're going to go, uh, well, I don't know about that.

01:26:12.000 And I'll be like, okay, here's what I'll do.

01:26:13.000 I'll take a hundred percent of my memberships.

01:26:15.000 Thanks for your time.

01:26:15.000 I'll make my website.

01:26:16.000 Yeah.

01:26:17.000 Right.

01:26:18.000 Which I don't know why it doesn't just do that.

01:26:19.000 I mean, they have a massive distribution platform.

01:26:22.000 He's also been like demonetized on YouTube for like how many years now?

01:26:26.000 Off and on for, I don't know.

01:26:27.000 Here's what I can say.

01:26:28.000 If I know this to be true, That if we did some kind of partnership with The Daily Wire, this show would be 10 times bigger in half the time.

01:26:40.000 We would have... The Daily Wire's, I think, 20 times bigger than we are.

01:26:47.000 They have people all over the place.

01:26:49.000 They have more fans than we do.

01:26:50.000 They have more connections, more celebrities who visit their offices.

01:26:54.000 They have their own talent roster.

01:26:55.000 If I did do a deal with them in any capacity, and they were able to be like, here, we're gonna change your show, It would just like, bigger studio, built by a more professional company, faster.

01:27:06.000 Oh my god, the swinging cameras that come through on dollies and stuff?

01:27:10.000 We're a company here at Timcast, and we are every day trying to learn and navigate and forge this path forward.

01:27:17.000 Meaning like, oh man, we have hiccups all day, every day.

01:27:20.000 And it's just like, constant headaches.

01:27:22.000 And I talk to Jeremy periodically, and then he's like, well, my friend, just know that it always gets worse.

01:27:27.000 I'm like, I don't know.

01:27:27.000 And I'm laughing.

01:27:28.000 He's right.

01:27:29.000 Because I'm like, you know, we're working on a project right now with the Daily Wire crew, a music project.

01:27:34.000 I don't want to say too much about it.

01:27:35.000 We're really excited.

01:27:36.000 And so I've been talking to him, and then, you know, I'll mention like, oh, we had this problem with this financial thing.

01:27:41.000 He's like, I remember we had that.

01:27:41.000 And then he laughs.

01:27:42.000 Yeah, and that's 20 times worse.

01:27:44.000 And so I'm just like, if we were able to get a company like them to just even consult, it would be huge.

01:27:51.000 If we were able to have their resources in terms of booking, it would be massive.

01:27:56.000 We would have bigger celebrities, bigger names, bigger connections.

01:27:59.000 Yeah, in no time.

01:28:00.000 But, you know, look, we're our own company, we do our own thing, and it's impossible to just, you can't just make something like that happen.

01:28:07.000 Same thing is true with Crowder.

01:28:09.000 Why would Crowder do a deal with Daily Wire?

01:28:11.000 It's like you were saying, their production resources, distribution, and access is so massive that it would substantially benefit Crowder.

01:28:17.000 However, as for who Crowder is, he doesn't need them.

01:28:24.000 He can make his own website.

01:28:25.000 It will just be harder, it will take longer, but he will make substantially more money.

01:28:31.000 Yeah.

01:28:32.000 Even Rush Limbaugh worked for another company.

01:28:34.000 What company?

01:28:35.000 Salem Media, I believe.

01:28:36.000 His whole career?

01:28:37.000 At least at the end, I believe.

01:28:40.000 I'm just jumping on that.

01:28:41.000 Candice Owens is one of the biggest names. 1.00

01:28:44.000 She's generally worked with Prager and Turning Point and now Daily Wire.

01:28:49.000 It's just different business paths and how your lifestyle meshes with that, how your vision and your creativity.

01:28:59.000 I can't work for anyone.

01:29:01.000 I would rather take less money and just, if I'm not going to work that day, I'm not going to work that day.

01:29:07.000 That's on me, but if someone's telling me, hey, you've got to do this, you've got to do that, I can't do it at this point.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, I'm the same way.

01:29:13.000 Why take orders from somebody?

01:29:14.000 It just doesn't make sense.

01:29:15.000 I've been through that.

01:29:16.000 At this stage, I'm working for the Timcast Corporation, and it's a little emasculating at times. 0.79

01:29:22.000 I'm like, damn, I can't just I can't just publish a new show.

01:29:26.000 It's owned by TimCast Corporation, which is reasonable, I think, because I'm getting paid by TimCast Corporation, and I can always end the contract. 0.96

01:29:32.000 I think there's a time and place, because the social capital that I'm gaining outweighs the value of anything I could do on my own at this stage of my career.

01:29:40.000 But Ian, that's technically not true.

01:29:43.000 It's true in the sense that anybody who works for TimCast has an agreement that anything you make related to our business, we own.

01:29:51.000 That means, What do we do here?

01:29:53.000 We do political commentary, we do YouTube videos, we do social media posts, we make music.

01:29:58.000 We're making video games now, and you recognize that we're doing all of this multimedia stuff.

01:30:04.000 However, it also states that at any point you want to do something, you need only tell us.

01:30:09.000 That's it.

01:30:10.000 That's in the, that's in the contract also.

01:30:10.000 Yeah.

01:30:10.000 True.

01:30:12.000 So like the, the point is we can't have people work here who are going to be like, I'm going to make music for you.

01:30:16.000 And then we go, awesome.

01:30:18.000 And then they come out with an album.

01:30:20.000 It goes up a platinum or whatever.

01:30:21.000 And they're like, well, I made that at home.

01:30:22.000 I think because we'll do, we, we hired you to make that standard Hollywood procedure.

01:30:26.000 Yeah.

01:30:27.000 I do deals with major studios.

01:30:29.000 Well, I can't say them, but they basically have first look.

01:30:33.000 They own any movie you make subsequently. 0.94

01:30:36.000 If you're a first-time director for a major studio, they own your ass because we kind of brought you up on the map. 0.96

01:30:42.000 And I'm not saying that. 0.85

01:30:44.000 But I will say about Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro, they don't work for anyone.

01:30:48.000 They started that company and just built it up.

01:30:49.000 I think you guys are, outside looking in, you guys are crushing it.

01:30:53.000 So, first look is a good way to put it.

01:30:55.000 The way I describe it to everybody is, everybody has to have an agreement that if you're working here, you're working for us.

01:31:00.000 However, I don't want to own your music, man.

01:31:03.000 I don't want to own your book.

01:31:04.000 Because of our contracts with other companies, you just have to come to us and be like, I'm gonna write this book.

01:31:09.000 It's nothing to do with you, it's me.

01:31:10.000 And I'll be like, okay, yeah, I'll write up a contract saying we have no rights over the book that's produced by you.

01:31:16.000 You're good.

01:31:16.000 But there's something in the back of my artist mind where it's just knowing that I have a contract signed that is Owns my work and until I override it is there.

01:31:26.000 It's like it's messes with me, but I have to weigh the value like the value of to be honest.

01:31:31.000 I would do this show for free.

01:31:32.000 Anyway, like I've you know, I've even talked with you about like, I don't need the money.

01:31:35.000 I'm not here for the money.

01:31:36.000 I don't care about the social capital far outweighs the dollars in my opinion.

01:31:41.000 So, I'm constantly doing the weight of, like, is it worth it?

01:31:44.000 Everyone's got to make their own decision, you know?

01:31:46.000 What's best for your life and what you want to do.

01:31:49.000 I remember thinking when I was younger, I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to start a business and I'm going to scale it up and then it's going to be a multi-whatever.

01:31:55.000 I don't even want to do that, you know?

01:31:57.000 Quality of life.

01:31:59.000 Think of how many had it, you know?

01:32:00.000 Do you really just want to be consumed by your business all day, every day?

01:32:03.000 I actually want some time to hang out with my wife and, you know, future kids.

01:32:06.000 Also, I don't want to compete with you.

01:32:10.000 Me and Tim both make cartoons.

01:32:13.000 We do acting and stuff.

01:32:14.000 I don't want to compete.

01:32:15.000 I'd rather work together.

01:32:16.000 I don't want to compete with Jeremy.

01:32:18.000 I don't want to compete with Steve Crowder.

01:32:20.000 I want to work unified and create art together.

01:32:24.000 We don't have any kind of contract anywhere near the level of what the Daily Wire is offering, like that massive lighting out terms or whatever.

01:32:34.000 We don't have anything.

01:32:35.000 Yeah, over X amount.

01:32:36.000 There's no time period on the contract?

01:32:37.000 There's literally nothing in any agreement anywhere that's like, Ian, if you get us banned, we're going to dock your pay.

01:32:41.000 It's like, no, I'll just pay you anyway.

01:32:43.000 Get mad about it, I suppose.

01:32:45.000 But also, it's like there's no time commitment, which is ultimate.

01:32:50.000 In this rapidly changing entertainment structured environment, putting someone on a three-year freaking leash is insane, in my opinion.

01:32:57.000 Well, there's a reason for that, and it's what we were talking about the other day, right?

01:33:00.000 So, we have no no-term contracts with anybody who works here, and that's a huge risk on our end, because I joke to everybody, I'm a communist, so it's like...

01:33:09.000 If we invest in you as a personality and then you quit on us, we've just lost all of our investment.

01:33:17.000 And that's why nobody wants to do that deal.

01:33:18.000 That's a reasonable position, though.

01:33:20.000 Again, that's standard in Hollywood.

01:33:23.000 We don't have a term for anybody.

01:33:26.000 Ian could leave the show whenever he wants to make his own thing.

01:33:28.000 That's quite generous.

01:33:30.000 The robot brain is, if I were to lock you in, then I will benefit in the future.

01:33:34.000 But the reality is, I love you more as a human for respecting me and my freedom.

01:33:38.000 And I would gladly hang out with you.

01:33:41.000 I'll tell you, I think I'm better at business than all these people.

01:33:44.000 If you don't want to be here, you should not be here.

01:33:47.000 And I do not want to keep sinking money into a person who's trying to leave.

01:33:51.000 Now that's wasted money.

01:33:52.000 So all these big companies, they're like, look, if I'm going to invest $10 million in you, I need to know that I can monetize that for four years or whatever, make money off it.

01:34:00.000 My attitude is, hey, look, I'm going to invest a couple hundred grand into you and the stuff you're building.

01:34:05.000 And if at any point you don't want to be here, it's probably better you just leave because I don't want to waste any more money.

01:34:09.000 Like, if you don't want to be here, what?

01:34:12.000 So, like, what am I supposed to do with that?

01:34:14.000 You're going to be unhappy.

01:34:15.000 I think it's a better structure overall. 1.00

01:34:17.000 Like, again, Hollywood, it's cold and dehumanized because it's just a massive mega publicly traded corporation dealing with a bunch of creative idiots. 0.93

01:34:26.000 Very successful people sometimes, but I mean, yeah, when you have a more, like, a family-owned business, you don't need this super restrictive contract. 0.99

01:34:35.000 You have leadership, you have friendship, you have, you know, you can do things on a handshake.

01:34:40.000 A contract is just in case the worst happens.

01:34:43.000 You should be able to just work things out.

01:34:46.000 Someone chatted, Tim wants volunteers, not hostages.

01:34:49.000 Yes.

01:34:50.000 I worked for Fusion and they had me under contract.

01:34:53.000 Then they went woke and I said, I'd like to leave.

01:34:55.000 And they said, no, here's more money. 0.99

01:34:56.000 And I said, this sucks. 0.57

01:34:57.000 Do you think that it's because it doesn't scale like these kind of these family run smaller contracts? 0.96

01:35:02.000 They're like, I trust you, let's work together.

01:35:04.000 They don't scale because the owner loses contact with the new hires because there's so many employees?

01:35:10.000 Yes.

01:35:11.000 I mean, obviously, as you get bigger, you're going to lose that more personalized connection with your employees.

01:35:18.000 So, again, there's no one right way to do this in any way, shape, or form.

01:35:23.000 Any of these powerful voices, you guys, anyone else, it's do what you think feels right.

01:35:29.000 And I think what it ultimately comes down to, what we're all doing this for, is to help save this country and save this planet from tyranny.

01:35:36.000 And this stuff is all kind of on the side.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, straight up, man.

01:35:38.000 Economics.

01:35:40.000 All right, let's go.

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01:35:49.000 And we got a bunch of really crazy stuff to talk about.

01:35:52.000 We do.

01:35:53.000 I don't know.

01:35:53.000 I just put it that way.

01:35:54.000 Because it's been building up because I haven't been able to do my morning show.

01:35:58.000 And technically, I shouldn't even be doing this show.

01:36:00.000 But I'm not going to cancel on people just because my voice is 0.99

01:36:04.000 fucked up. 0.99

01:36:04.000 That was the thing. If you cancel your day shows and just do this show, 0.99

01:36:08.000 then we won't ever have to look for news because you already have it,

01:36:12.000 and you'll be chomping at the bit to talk about it anyway.

01:36:14.000 Well, so it's like I probably should not do anything and just sleep,

01:36:19.000 because I don't know what was wrong with my voice, to be really honest.

01:36:21.000 Yeah.

01:36:23.000 For sure, dehydration, maybe too much salt.

01:36:25.000 Maybe, but I've been doing everything.

01:36:27.000 People are like, gargle honey, and it's like, come on, man.

01:36:29.000 Fasting?

01:36:30.000 Everything.

01:36:31.000 Fasting will help.

01:36:32.000 Yeah, it didn't work.

01:36:32.000 Like 12 hours of no food.

01:36:33.000 Yep, it did it.

01:36:34.000 Really?

01:36:34.000 Maybe you have to do three days in a row.

01:36:36.000 I think it's just something that happens.

01:36:38.000 Yeah, it could just be overuse or just speaking for a while.

01:36:40.000 Eventually it's going to just... And then instead of taking a day off, I end up doing the show.

01:36:43.000 You went hard last night.

01:36:45.000 But to be fair, I'm raspy, but it's nowhere near as bad as it was on Friday.

01:36:50.000 So I'm assuming I'll be able to work tomorrow.

01:36:52.000 It's going to get better.

01:36:53.000 We'll read some Super Chats. 0.96

01:36:54.000 And thank you guys for being members at TimCast.com because it's basically afforded me the ability to take the mornings off.

01:36:59.000 Which is extremely, like, I get really angry.

01:37:01.000 Because, like, I come in here, I do all the work, and then I start doing warm-ups, exercises, I took ibuprofen, because it reduces swelling to help you talk, and I recorded again for four minutes and I was complaining about Greta Thunberg, and then I just was, like, pushing harder and harder to get, and I'm done.

01:37:17.000 And I got pissed.

01:37:18.000 But if we didn't have the website, I'd be freaking out, because I'd be like, how do I pay people?

01:37:22.000 The memberships are- That's a rough life, man.

01:37:23.000 I bet a lot of people are thinking that way.

01:37:25.000 What if YouTube turns on me?

01:37:27.000 What if I don't follow their rules my entire career?

01:37:30.000 But my concern is, if we didn't have the website memberships, it'd be more like, if I don't do this work today, how do I pay the salaries of the people who are working here?

01:37:39.000 That's the problem.

01:37:41.000 But the website, you guys as members, you give me a sick day.

01:37:45.000 Let's read some news.

01:37:47.000 All right.

01:37:48.000 What does it say?

01:37:50.000 C.D.

01:37:50.000 Stein says, Hey, Tim, breaking news.

01:37:52.000 A prison in Hillsborough, Illinois, has had at least 15 guards taken to hospitals in serious condition due to fentanyl exposure.

01:37:58.000 Wow, man.

01:38:02.000 Laura Spade says bank bail bail-ins, bail-ins are starting.

01:38:06.000 The FDIC was having a talk about this recently.

01:38:10.000 Oh, I looked up the Bank of America crisis.

01:38:13.000 It looks like something went wrong with a glitch with Zelle, which is the transfer service that a bunch of these banks own.

01:38:19.000 Zelle is weird.

01:38:20.000 It's almost like antitrust in a way, because it's like Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase Bank, all these banks own this thing together, and they all transfer money on this thing.

01:38:29.000 I've always wondered about this.

01:38:30.000 It's very, very odd.

01:38:30.000 PNC Bank also, JP Morgan Chase, Capital One, Truist.

01:38:33.000 Yeah, Capital One.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:38:35.000 It's a weird, weird, weird thing.

01:38:36.000 It's owned by Early Warning Services, the company that owns Zelle.

01:38:39.000 And Early Warning Services is owned by all those banks.

01:38:41.000 Right, isn't that odd?

01:38:43.000 Waffle Sensei says, if Luke really loved us, he would stay.

01:38:46.000 But he doesn't, so he's leaving. 0.70

01:38:47.000 I hate you.

01:38:48.000 I say we all go and buy out his t-shirt inventory so he completely runs out of stock. 0.97

01:38:51.000 Show him how mad we are.

01:38:52.000 Please don't do that.

01:38:53.000 Please don't go to thebestpoliticalshirts.com and buy all the shirts.

01:38:57.000 I will have no other shirts.

01:38:59.000 I'll go shirtless.

01:39:01.000 We gotta get Shim Sham back. 0.77

01:39:02.000 Did you say you'll go shirtless?

01:39:03.000 That's a promise.

01:39:05.000 I need everybody to tweet at Seamus Coghlan.

01:39:07.000 Seamus, get over here. 0.95

01:39:09.000 It's time.

01:39:09.000 Who's that guy?

01:39:10.000 Who is he?

01:39:11.000 The potato guy.

01:39:13.000 Slaymus! 0.99

01:39:15.000 We should, when Seamus comes back, we should get like a really massive baked potato and put like candles in it and like hand it to him.

01:39:22.000 I made a special potato shirt for him for members of Luke Uncensored.

01:39:28.000 Do you guys want to find some super chats and read it so I don't have to talk as much?

01:39:31.000 Yeah.

01:39:32.000 I'm tweeting at Seamus right now.

01:39:33.000 Anyone that wants to retweet my tweet to Seamus, please do it.

01:39:38.000 Yeah, but I can't see them from here, so let me do it from here.

01:39:42.000 Luke, you wanna grab one?

01:39:43.000 I'm looking right now.

01:39:44.000 I got one right now.

01:39:46.000 From Josh O. The UK just recently arrested a Christian for praying silently.

01:39:50.000 Thought crimes are now real.

01:39:52.000 I saw that.

01:39:53.000 It wasn't for silent prayer.

01:39:54.000 It was for, like, loitering or something.

01:39:56.000 But they were silently praying.

01:39:58.000 She was standing in front of an abortion clinic or something? 0.92

01:40:00.000 Yeah.

01:40:00.000 And she'd been there day after day, and I think they were like, you can't stand on the road anymore.

01:40:04.000 It's loitering.

01:40:05.000 I don't know.

01:40:05.000 Interesting.

01:40:06.000 Gabriel Lopes has a $50 super chat saying, your voice will not return to normal.

01:40:12.000 It's how Alex Jones got his along the years.

01:40:19.000 I can feel it.

01:40:20.000 You gotta give us a war cry, then you could really have it.

01:40:22.000 I'm nowhere near a war cry.

01:40:24.000 Uh, this is a super chat from NotThatGuy.

01:40:26.000 Ian, you don't own art, brother man.

01:40:29.000 Let's make something cool.

01:40:32.000 Yeah, you don't, Ian.

01:40:33.000 True.

01:40:33.000 That's why, Joey, that's a big ethos at Minds.

01:40:35.000 The whole point of the company is like, don't be too concerned about people claiming your work.

01:40:41.000 Your work, you think it's yours, it's just there.

01:40:43.000 You made it, just let it be.

01:40:45.000 Sir, you have the super chats from the very beginning.

01:40:49.000 There's a really fun one from Pirate Taurus Sockenhoff.

01:40:54.000 It says, it's called puberty, Tim.

01:40:56.000 Your body is changing.

01:40:59.000 You'll notice, along with a deeper voice, your beard should start filling in.

01:41:02.000 Finally!

01:41:02.000 Did something drop down there, Tim?

01:41:05.000 Two somethings.

01:41:06.000 Oh man, that's funny.

01:41:07.000 Alright, I got one from Lord Clemino.

01:41:10.000 This says, You guys are missing things Crowder said.

01:41:13.000 It's the fact these conditions force people to abide by big tech's biased rules they often enforce arbitrarily that don't encourage one to actually speak the truth but the opposite.

01:41:24.000 And that I agree in that I think that you're referring to that if he gets banned off YouTube, then he loses money from his contract.

01:41:31.000 So they're kind of forcing him to abide by YouTube's rules to get his daily wire contract.

01:41:35.000 Which would happen if he was independent anyway.

01:41:38.000 You know, if he was independent, he lost YouTube money.

01:41:40.000 So they're kind of saying, well, you know, we're not YouTube insurance.

01:41:43.000 And they might be YouTube insurance to an extent, depending on how much revenue comes in from YouTube, and they only dock them 20%.

01:41:49.000 I mean, there is probably some give and take there.

01:41:52.000 But again, we still need to No more information.

01:41:56.000 I got another one that Tim's highlighted for me from Linda T. saying, Tim, I'm a stay-at-home mom of two kids.

01:42:02.000 Limited money, but a member because I like that you are fighting the culture war and I stand behind you, as do I. Thank you.

01:42:08.000 Thank you.

01:42:09.000 Really do appreciate it.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, what's really hard is like, I understand why the Daily Wire does what they do.

01:42:18.000 Being the people running the machine affords you the ability to fight the culture war directly.

01:42:22.000 Me being the host of the principal show and trying to run the machine is like damn near impossible.

01:42:28.000 It's a hard job.

01:42:28.000 Not everyone has it in them to do that.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, but Trump has a $20 super chat saying, how many people pay for Crowder that don't already pay for Daily Wire?

01:42:38.000 How many new members would they really get?

01:42:40.000 I doubt it's 300K.

01:42:42.000 It's a good point.

01:42:43.000 There's a lot of crossover there.

01:42:45.000 They're both like statists.

01:42:48.000 Everyone's a statist to you because it's relative.

01:42:51.000 They're semi-communists, both of them, let's be real.

01:42:54.000 Do we make like the moderate libertarian network thing?

01:42:59.000 Moderate?

01:43:00.000 Libertarian?

01:43:00.000 That doesn't go together.

01:43:01.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:43:03.000 Yes, it does.

01:43:04.000 We got a good super chat from Anti-Statist Alliance.

01:43:06.000 Here's a good one.

01:43:07.000 This is from the Yeti90.

01:43:08.000 Oh, do you want to?

01:43:09.000 No, I was gonna say, it's a network for people who aren't outright anarchists, but lean more in that direction than conservatives or liberals do, you know what I mean?

01:43:18.000 So like, you'll get your libertarians, you'll get your Dave Smiths, but you'll get some conservatives who are like pro-2A. 0.74

01:43:23.000 We got another $5 super chat by Vegas96.

01:43:26.000 He says, DC Drano probably had the best Twitter account.

01:43:29.000 Top 5 in my opinion.

01:43:31.000 You're big on Twitter.

01:43:32.000 Hell yeah! 0.95

01:43:33.000 Thank you.

01:43:33.000 You got it back?

01:43:34.000 I got it back.

01:43:35.000 I've been rage tweeting all day.

01:43:39.000 Every day.

01:43:40.000 It's my favorite thing to do.

01:43:41.000 And as my lawyer said, it's no surprise you were ever banned in the first place.

01:43:45.000 Did you just get it back?

01:43:46.000 Like four weeks ago.

01:43:51.000 I've been going on a tear.

01:43:55.000 Like I said, the thing I'm most proud of is our case that's in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals right now.

01:44:00.000 We had our hearing.

01:44:01.000 Like I said, I'm represented by Harmeet Dhillon, who I think is the best civil rights attorney in modern history. And, you know, any day I could wake up and

01:44:10.000 we're going to get that decision.

01:44:11.000 And we're almost certainly going to be appealing to the Supreme Court. And the reason this case is,

01:44:15.000 I believe, historic is because it's the government that is coordinating with big tech to censor us.

01:44:22.000 I think it's happening across the entire spectrum.

01:44:25.000 I mean think of all the Twitter files we've seen.

01:44:27.000 Now imagine YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.

01:44:31.000 So I think we've just hit the tip of the iceberg and I have a lot of friends in Congress and there's gonna be a lot of subpoenas going out where I think the Twitter files are just the tip of the iceberg.

01:44:40.000 We're gonna learn a lot more.

01:44:42.000 St.

01:44:42.000 Matthew has a $20 super chat saying, since we are discussing Ian's contract, how much of its compensation is graphene and psychedelic mushrooms?

01:44:52.000 All of it, actually.

01:44:52.000 That little jar right there was all it took.

01:44:55.000 Ian signed a 20-year contract for that little vial.

01:44:57.000 It was worth it.

01:44:58.000 And I'll sign it again.

01:45:00.000 Here's a good one from TheYeti90.

01:45:01.000 He says, I want a shirt that says, quote, Luke, help me stop smoking.

01:45:07.000 I'm going to keep sending this until it gets read.

01:45:08.000 Did I help you quit smoking?

01:45:10.000 If I did, I'm very happy because that's something I was dealing with myself previously before a couple years ago.

01:45:15.000 And that's a big thing.

01:45:16.000 That's if, you know, not a lot of people get to overcome it.

01:45:19.000 So if you really did quit, shout out to you and congratulations for living an addiction-free

01:45:24.000 life and not being controlled by any statist substance that you are giving the money to

01:45:30.000 the government through.

01:45:31.000 So maybe make a t-shirt that says, Luke, help me stop smoking.

01:45:34.000 Or get rid of the cigarette tax.

01:45:36.000 One way to quit smoking.

01:45:37.000 Actually, if you remind yourself to quit smoking, does it make you just think, smoke?

01:45:41.000 One thing that really made me quit smoking is understanding how much taxes went into the government with me smoking.

01:45:45.000 I was like, what?

01:45:46.000 They're getting how much?

01:45:47.000 I can't do this!

01:45:49.000 And that was one reason that I just decided to quit.

01:45:52.000 Two, it's just, I don't know, it just feels better just to be able to breathe and not be dependent on something that I was convinced that I needed when I really didn't.

01:46:01.000 Epic.

01:46:02.000 I went through the same thing with marijuana.

01:46:03.000 I thought I couldn't be sociable without it.

01:46:06.000 I was, in like 2007, I thought, oh, this is making me likable.

01:46:10.000 And that just set me on a downward spiral.

01:46:12.000 It was me that was likable.

01:46:13.000 That stuff was just there.

01:46:14.000 So, Serge, I'm only able to see the recent Super Jets.

01:46:17.000 Can you go into the back and get the earlier ones?

01:46:20.000 I got another one here by John McGee saying, Breaking!

01:46:24.000 New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced resignation.

01:46:28.000 Good!

01:46:29.000 Absolutely.

01:46:30.000 That's the news that was breaking during this podcast, and she was an awful leader that implemented a lot of the World Economic Forum policies and essentially destroyed any form of freedom and liberty in New Zealand. 0.99

01:46:43.000 And she was facing a lot of people opposing her, and her popularity went down because of just how absolutely horrible she was to her people. 0.90

01:46:52.000 So good, good riddance, in my opinion.

01:46:54.000 Search.

01:46:55.000 Yeah, I got one here from Ian.

01:46:59.000 Ask Rogan about how he saved my life by contacting 9-1-1 from another state.

01:47:03.000 Went by casual libtard, I believe. 1.00

01:47:06.000 Yeah, that was in 2017.

01:47:08.000 He was on a live stream and he had a seizure and I think there was like 10 people watching and a bunch of people were DMing me like Dude, Ian, he just dropped.

01:47:21.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:47:23.000 I've never met.

01:47:24.000 And then I checked his live stream and it was still going.

01:47:27.000 And I posted on my page, I was like, yo, does anyone know anything about Ian?

01:47:32.000 And someone's like, I think he lives in this town.

01:47:35.000 And then we looked it up.

01:47:36.000 And then we sent cops to his house.

01:47:38.000 And he ended up being OK.

01:47:40.000 But that's a blast from the past.

01:47:42.000 All right, I got another one really fast.

01:47:44.000 Luke.

01:47:45.000 What happened to your thumb, man?

01:47:46.000 I was going to ask you the same question earlier.

01:47:49.000 This person, Fleca, talks, as we know.

01:47:51.000 Notice the bandage.

01:47:52.000 You don't have to say if you're not comfortable, if you don't want to, but.

01:47:56.000 I was moving and then there was like broken glass and I just like put my hand into something.

01:48:01.000 I know.

01:48:01.000 It's not fun.

01:48:01.000 I was trying to think of a cool one.

01:48:03.000 Shout out Fleckus Talks.

01:48:05.000 One of my best friends.

01:48:06.000 Awesome guy.

01:48:07.000 His thumb's just sore because he loaded 3,000 rounds of 9mm over the weekend.

01:48:11.000 There you go.

01:48:12.000 That should have been a better one.

01:48:13.000 Got one here from PJ.

01:48:15.000 No, I got another one by Semper Ives.

01:48:17.000 This one's better.

01:48:18.000 He says, Ian, you've been rolling more 20s than usual.

01:48:20.000 Did you change up your routine, diet, or anything?

01:48:24.000 Did you even lift with Luke, bro?

01:48:26.000 Now, Semper, don't encourage him.

01:48:30.000 Number two, he has not been lifting, has not been working out with me, and has been declining my invites to do personal training with me.

01:48:36.000 Correct.

01:48:37.000 I have been working out, though.

01:48:38.000 I've been at least 20 push-ups every day, if not 40.

01:48:41.000 I haven't eclipsed 40 a day yet.

01:48:43.000 20 push-ups a day?

01:48:44.000 Yeah.

01:48:44.000 That's bare minimum, just so that my body's ready to lift 30 or 40 pounds.

01:48:49.000 I did yoga last night, lightly, but I got those blocks and doing those push-ups where you go way down and stretch open your chest.

01:48:56.000 Eating a lot of meat, doubling up on my protein intake, tripling up on my protein intake.

01:49:00.000 Are you on that beef liver?

01:49:01.000 I haven't taken any of that yet.

01:49:03.000 All Epic bars right now.

01:49:04.000 We've got these incredible Epic bars.

01:49:05.000 It's like bison meat with cranberry.

01:49:07.000 I mean, it's just so pure.

01:49:10.000 So that has definitely changed things up.

01:49:11.000 Maybe it's building my confidence.

01:49:12.000 Thank you for noticing.

01:49:13.000 Keep in mind, Ian, I do have this note here saying, Ian builds muscle as one of your goals this year.

01:49:17.000 It's happening, man.

01:49:18.000 It happens slowly and then all at once.

01:49:21.000 I believe you, man.

01:49:22.000 Here's one from PJ.

01:49:22.000 It says, Tim, can you get Annie Jacobson on to talk about her book, First Platoon?

01:49:26.000 Chilling stuff.

01:49:27.000 Maybe.

01:49:27.000 I don't know who that is.

01:49:29.000 Annie Jacobson.

01:49:31.000 I have another one here from Seve Rose saying, most banks did not have gold to trade for cash after the Civil War.

01:49:37.000 That's a myth, and you should investigate the history of central banks in this country a little closer.

01:49:41.000 Rogan.

01:49:43.000 that they didn't have enough gold? It says that most banks did not have gold to trade for cash,

01:49:48.000 so that wasn't fungible directly. Well, that's what the federal bank people said,

01:49:52.000 that there wasn't enough gold and the bank runs destabilized.

01:49:55.000 But a lot of these destabilization events were actually, I believe, orchestrated to generate

01:50:01.000 enthusiasm and getting the getting that pass. So it's kind of, you know, oh, that's

01:50:06.000 what history tells us. But as we've learned today, what is being said right in front of our

01:50:10.000 faces is often not true. So, you know, I agree to an extent, but it's not always what it

01:50:15.000 seems.

01:50:16.000 10 bucks do has a $50 super chat saying, Tim, I don't think you're losing your voice. I

01:50:21.000 think you are slowly channeling the energy of Alex Jones to become his new vessel.

01:50:26.000 Soon, you'll be selling TimCast vitamins and ranting about the chemicals in the grip tape turning the skaters gay. 0.97

01:50:34.000 Is that true, Tim? 0.90

01:50:36.000 We're... we're making... we're turning the people into skaters.

01:50:40.000 Oh, it's even better.

01:50:41.000 Here's one from 10bucksstew.

01:50:43.000 Tim, oh wait, you just read that.

01:50:44.000 That was a good one.

01:50:46.000 I got another one by ikefka.

01:50:49.000 It says, Ian, 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 air squats, and a 19 kilometer run.

01:50:55.000 19?

01:50:55.000 I've never run more than like two miles in a burst.

01:51:00.000 Is that like from the One Punch Man thing?

01:51:01.000 Is that what you're referencing?

01:51:02.000 I don't know if that is or not.

01:51:04.000 It's like an anime.

01:51:05.000 Dude, if I could get to that.

01:51:06.000 How much could you run in a mile?

01:51:07.000 Like, what's your time in a mile?

01:51:09.000 I haven't timed it since, like, high school, and it was nine and a half minutes.

01:51:12.000 I was so out of shape.

01:51:14.000 When you go for a run, you want to go for a run.

01:51:17.000 No.

01:51:17.000 Have a gun!

01:51:18.000 He doesn't want to... I've been very persistent, haven't I?

01:51:22.000 You have been.

01:51:22.000 And every time I see him in the kitchen, I'm like, Ian, we got to go.

01:51:25.000 We got to do this.

01:51:25.000 Let's go.

01:51:26.000 Dude, I want to make a deal with you.

01:51:28.000 I'm going to get ripped if you get more optimistic.

01:51:32.000 I am optimistic.

01:51:32.000 I'm very optimistic.

01:51:33.000 In homeschooling, and the Second Amendment, and people's liberties and freedoms, and humanity figuring out problems.

01:51:41.000 Yeah, Luke has been very pushy, in a great way, as a friend, about me working it out, and it's keeping it in the forefront of my mind, so thank you, Luke.

01:51:49.000 I'll read this one here.

01:51:50.000 Nicole says, have you asked Crowder to be on the show to clarify Stop Big Con?

01:51:56.000 Yes.

01:51:58.000 Good one.

01:51:59.000 Moving on.

01:52:00.000 Bridget Mae Sadara says, Ian, thanks for representing our age group.

01:52:05.000 I'm 48.

01:52:06.000 You're always rolling 20s for me.

01:52:08.000 Much love to you and your family.

01:52:10.000 Take care.

01:52:10.000 You too, Bridget.

01:52:11.000 Much love to your family, man.

01:52:13.000 Thanks.

01:52:14.000 Hell yeah.

01:52:14.000 You want to read that one?

01:52:15.000 Yeah, I got one from BuyBitcoinDaily, parentheses, Jake.

01:52:20.000 Tim, Luke, you guys are missing the point.

01:52:22.000 Crowder has been demonetized for years.

01:52:25.000 Crowder would be in the default the moment he signed the contract.

01:52:28.000 I brought that up too.

01:52:28.000 I mentioned that he's been demonetized for a long time.

01:52:31.000 But it said, did it say demonetized?

01:52:33.000 It said banned.

01:52:35.000 Because he can still do ad reads.

01:52:37.000 I think it said, I think it said if he was banned.

01:52:39.000 Yeah, that was the thing.

01:52:40.000 He can make a video.

01:52:42.000 And then be like, hey everybody, buy, you know, Harry's, or not Harry's, buy... Buy whatever he's endorsing.

01:52:48.000 Jeremy's Razors?

01:52:49.000 Jeremy's Razors.

01:52:51.000 Harry's is the bad one.

01:52:52.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 Yeah, but he could just do that, you know what I mean?

01:52:55.000 There's interesting things about these contracts too.

01:52:56.000 You gotta understand the dirty games they play.

01:52:58.000 They'll be like, you have to, they'll say something like, we're gonna give you, you know, a big marketing budget.

01:53:06.000 We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna help promote your show.

01:53:09.000 You'll be like, wow, marketing budget, right?

01:53:10.000 And they'll say, yeah, we're gonna put half a million dollars in marketing behind your show.

01:53:15.000 And you go, okay.

01:53:16.000 And see, I'm good at business.

01:53:17.000 I'm not the best at business, but I'm just not bad.

01:53:21.000 And so I go, and where does that money go?

01:53:24.000 And then they'll say something like, oh, Well, there's stipulations.

01:53:29.000 It's not a marketing budget, you know, for like any kind of marketing.

01:53:34.000 What these companies will do is they'll find ways to like create value marketing, you know, that's not, you know, like, it's the true value of something is vague.

01:53:45.000 So they can be like, we'll give you a half a million dollars worth of X.

01:53:48.000 And then they'll just say like, oh, Ian, this water bottle's worth $100.

01:53:51.000 So like a targeted ad read, they'll be like, oh, it's worth $35 for 1,000 views.

01:53:56.000 They'll also pay themselves.

01:53:58.000 Exactly.

01:53:59.000 We charge $100,000 marketing fee for internal fees.

01:54:02.000 Here's our expenses.

01:54:03.000 And they'll probably, when it comes to marketing, they recoup it first.

01:54:05.000 Or they'll have, some of these companies will have like, the guy owns 10 companies.

01:54:09.000 And they'll say, oh, as part of the marketing fee, we're hiring super marketing for $100,000 a year

01:54:15.000 to figure out a plan and strategize.

01:54:19.000 And you're like, but the CEO owns that company.

01:54:22.000 It doesn't matter. 0.98

01:54:23.000 Hollywood is dirty. 0.95

01:54:24.000 Entertainment is a little less dirty, but pretty dirty. 0.89

01:54:27.000 You absolutely need a very good lawyer.

01:54:29.000 Not just a lawyer, you need a top lawyer if you're gonna be doing a serious money deal.

01:54:34.000 You'll be like, oh wow, half a million dollars in marketing.

01:54:37.000 And you're thinking to yourself, I can get a commercial on Fox News.

01:54:40.000 I can get a commercial in the New York, add in the New York Times.

01:54:42.000 I'll get a billboard in Times Square.

01:54:44.000 And they're thinking to themselves, we're gonna find a D-list celebrity.

01:54:47.000 We're gonna offer him the equivalent of $100,000 to do a shout out.

01:54:53.000 But what he'll get in exchange from us isn't 100 grand.

01:54:55.000 It'll be $100,000 worth of our time for consulting.

01:54:57.000 Our crypto token.

01:54:58.000 Or maybe a commercial on our network.

01:55:00.000 So they'll be like, oh, this guy charges $100,000 per shout out.

01:55:03.000 So now your budget's down to $400,000.

01:55:05.000 Then they go to him and say, okay, now you're on the hook for this.

01:55:08.000 Here's what we're going to do.

01:55:09.000 We're going to give you 20 hours of our consulting.

01:55:11.000 So it's just like, it's all paper money.

01:55:14.000 They're like, Elon Musk lost more money than anyone else in the history of the planet.

01:55:17.000 No, he didn't.

01:55:18.000 That money didn't exist.

01:55:19.000 It was imaginary.

01:55:20.000 People don't get it.

01:55:21.000 There was no money there.

01:55:23.000 We got a $5 super chat from Alex who says, if Luke leaves, I'm canceling my We Are Change membership.

01:55:28.000 Really, bro?

01:55:29.000 You gotta do me like that?

01:55:31.000 You're taking food out of Atlas's mouth, okay?

01:55:34.000 What is my co-host going to do?

01:55:35.000 How is my co-host going to eat?

01:55:37.000 And you gotta support your humble, poor t-shirt vendor, okay?

01:55:41.000 If you don't support it, where else are we gonna get the t-shirts?

01:55:44.000 So do you still shoot out of your RV when you're in Florida?

01:55:47.000 Do you ever go outside in the sun?

01:55:49.000 Well, it depends.

01:55:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:55:51.000 I mean, that's like one of the reasons, you know, the beach, the sun, the environment, the people there.

01:55:54.000 It's amazing.

01:55:55.000 But Atlas is always behind me when I shoot my videos, so she's my co-host.

01:55:58.000 She's awesome. 0.83

01:55:59.000 Feed the beast. 0.94

01:56:00.000 Yeah.

01:56:00.000 I can't see any of the older superchats.

01:56:02.000 I know, I can't either.

01:56:03.000 I want to start from the top.

01:56:03.000 Surge is a gatekeeper here.

01:56:04.000 Hey, I'm not gatekeeping!

01:56:05.000 You're gatekeeping.

01:56:05.000 You guys are talking so much that I can get a word in his way.

01:56:08.000 Chime up!

01:56:09.000 We're trying to get rid of the dead air here.

01:56:11.000 Come on.

01:56:11.000 Oh, it's not my fault.

01:56:12.000 I'm trying to switch and read these old chats and do this.

01:56:15.000 Come on.

01:56:15.000 You're doing me wrong.

01:56:17.000 Right now, David Tarantanto, he says, Toronto?

01:56:20.000 Toronto?

01:56:21.000 Yeah, Toronto.

01:56:22.000 Crowder doesn't have to sign it.

01:56:23.000 DW is a business.

01:56:24.000 They want to profit.

01:56:25.000 It's effing life.

01:56:26.000 I hope Crowder stays solo, but it's a business.

01:56:29.000 I think that's a lot of people don't realize it is a business.

01:56:31.000 That's important.

01:56:32.000 They offer the big ask.

01:56:33.000 They give him a really huge lopsided contract.

01:56:35.000 He comes back with a low ask and being like, no, no, no, put it there.

01:56:38.000 Then they find their way into a middle.

01:56:39.000 I mean, that's business.

01:56:40.000 Yeah.

01:56:41.000 There's another one here from Epstein Rope Co, which I really just want to read.

01:56:44.000 Cause that's hilarious.

01:56:45.000 I'm wearing a hat right now that says that.

01:56:48.000 Oh man.

01:56:49.000 I want to, can we say, does that company exist?

01:56:50.000 Can we make a rope company called Epstein Rope Company?

01:56:52.000 We sure that'd be hilarious.

01:56:54.000 It just, it just breaks.

01:56:55.000 Doesn't work.

01:56:56.000 Every time we try to use it, it just collapses.

01:56:58.000 Anyways, Epstein Robeco said, you have DC Drano here and you're wasting our time talking about contracts.

01:57:04.000 I don't think we're wasting our time.

01:57:05.000 What do you think?

01:57:06.000 It was a big crowd.

01:57:07.000 You know, we brought out my Hollywood expertise there.

01:57:10.000 But listen, it's an honor to be here and I'm happy to provide that.

01:57:15.000 Pardon me.

01:57:18.000 Everything else I do, I post it out there, so people know.

01:57:20.000 We also have an after show as well, guys, so if you want to see the after show, we don't have to be censored and be on the YouTube, under YouTube's whip, you can see us talk about more cool stuff.

01:57:30.000 We have another one, too, from Kevin Brady.

01:57:33.000 Crowder has missed a ton of time in the past from his show.

01:57:37.000 I don't think it's out of touch to say that they factored the penalty in to incentivize doing the show consistently.

01:57:43.000 But he had medical reasons.

01:57:45.000 Yeah, heart surgery or something.

01:57:49.000 That's a good reason, yeah.

01:57:50.000 But I guess, here's the problem with these contracts.

01:57:53.000 You can't expect the Daily Wire to pay for a show that can't be produced, but the Daily Wire shouldn't expect to buy a show if they can't assume those risks.

01:58:04.000 Like, if I hire someone to work for Timcast and they get sick, and they're like, I can't work, it's like, okay, well, I don't stop paying them.

01:58:11.000 It's happened to me, I was sick a bunch, like a month or so ago.

01:58:15.000 You know, we here at TimCast have unlimited sick time and unlimited vacation time because we're one of those hippie communist companies everyone makes fun of where the woman walks in like, here's my winded panther. 1.00

01:58:25.000 We got an espresso machine downstairs.

01:58:27.000 Did you see Sam Hyde's video making fun of that yesterday?

01:58:30.000 It was great.

01:58:30.000 It was so funny.

01:58:32.000 One of the funniest.

01:58:33.000 Here's a good one from Marquette Ashamed.

01:58:36.000 I hope I pronounced that right, Marquette.

01:58:37.000 Ian, what's your opinion on the Wizards of the Coast draft of the Open Game License 1.1?

01:58:43.000 Great question.

01:58:44.000 It is abhorrent that they're trying to take control retroactively of people's content that they had already signed under Open Gaming License 1.0, saying that they had the right to own it.

01:58:54.000 So what Wizards is doing, owner of Dungeons & Dragons, is saying, we're going to change our Open Game License that said anyone can use D&D rulesets, create their own versions, sell it, monetize it, create companies.

01:59:03.000 We're going to change that retroactively and now say you owe us a percentage of your work.

01:59:08.000 Crosslands will be open source.

01:59:10.000 Gotta be.

01:59:11.000 Tabletop RPG and card game.

01:59:13.000 Hell yeah! 0.95

01:59:14.000 But there's been a lot of pushback in the Dungeons & Dragons community against this OpenGL license 1.1.

01:59:20.000 It may not happen.

01:59:21.000 They were fishing it out.

01:59:22.000 How do we do that?

01:59:22.000 How can we make an open source card game and tabletop RPG?

01:59:26.000 We would open source the ruleset.

01:59:28.000 Right.

01:59:29.000 But they'd still have to be like...

01:59:32.000 A vote every, what, six months on, like, updates?

01:59:35.000 Well, what you could do is make it, like, free license codes so that anyone could use it and make changes, but all the changes are also free, so that anything that ever iteration of it gets used will also be available for a community.

01:59:47.000 And then one might be, like, one version might become really popular for everyone to play, but there could be side versions.

01:59:52.000 Yeah, we should do something like that.

01:59:53.000 That'd be cool.

01:59:54.000 The card game, I think, open sourcing is the way to go.

01:59:56.000 Instead of us trying... I love Magic the Gathering.

01:59:59.000 It's just a fun game.

02:00:00.000 But boy, did they just...

02:00:01.000 Just beat that game to death.

02:00:03.000 Also Wizards of the Coast, same company.

02:00:05.000 So I'm like, can we make a strategy card game that's just open source?

02:00:11.000 Yeah, but I don't, I don't know how that would work.

02:00:12.000 I don't know how that would work.

02:00:13.000 Because it would be just the art would you could plug in your

02:00:16.000 own art and card names, but it would still be if the stats the the so it could be that the rules and the structure of

02:00:23.000 the game is open source, but the actual cards will be made by

02:00:28.000 like a specific committee. So like to construct the game, everybody, we just get a big community of people and they

02:00:34.000 all pitch the ideas and then we and then we have this huge

02:00:36.000 network of open source individuals, play testing and, and I bought

02:00:40.000 the you know, theorizing, then what we do is a certain group of

02:00:43.000 individuals, the core base, which is a little bit elitist, ultimately decide on the cards themselves, offer them up to

02:00:50.000 the community for comment, and game testing, and then the cards

02:00:53.000 are free to print.

02:00:55.000 And then we could maybe even like sell them as like, I don't know, I don't be able to do is not a profit, but I would I would be interested in selling the cards, not to make a profit just to produce.

02:01:04.000 Someone's got to pay for the printing.

02:01:06.000 But like, and there's gotta be some kind of standard to it, but secondary market would cover costs on a lot of things.

02:01:12.000 How can we do it?

02:01:13.000 That'd be fun.

02:01:13.000 It'd be interesting.

02:01:14.000 If you guys have ideas, tweet them or message me at Mines.

02:01:17.000 I know that we could, I started working on a rules base with like, instead of strength, intelligence, and dexterity, I've got like, aim, speed, you know, I have different skill stats, and those things could be open sourced if I could build out like, you roll a D10, if you have five speed, then you get five D10 when you roll.

02:01:33.000 It's kind of White Wolf style, I think. 0.83

02:01:34.000 I know you love your rules.

02:01:36.000 I am.

02:01:36.000 I'm a big statist.

02:01:37.000 We're gonna grab one more here.

02:01:39.000 This is from caper2x.

02:01:40.000 Says, Tim, are free eggs part of your employees benefits package?

02:01:43.000 The world wonders.

02:01:44.000 The answer is yes.

02:01:45.000 In fact, we have like consistently 100 eggs on the counter.

02:01:50.000 And so I'll walk in one day and be like, guys, take the eggs.

02:01:52.000 Take 18.

02:01:53.000 Grab a cart and go home with it.

02:01:55.000 Go eat them.

02:01:56.000 I take advantage of it.

02:01:57.000 I at least have like two eggs a day.

02:01:58.000 Do you ever eat them raw?

02:01:59.000 That's amazing.

02:02:00.000 Or do you ever eat them raw?

02:02:01.000 You guys ever eat them, crack them, and just drink?

02:02:02.000 I haven't done that.

02:02:03.000 No, I scramble them and splash a little vinegar in the pan and flip them around like Andrew Grew told me to do.

02:02:06.000 Yeah.

02:02:07.000 Chef.

02:02:08.000 Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.

02:02:12.000 Become a member at TimCast.com because you're supporting our work, you're helping me get sick time even though I'm still working every day.

02:02:19.000 I took the mornings off to try and rest my voice and it's only possible because you guys are members.

02:02:25.000 And the coffee shop stuff we're doing, the game ideas, everything we're trying to do, everything I believe in and everybody here is impacting culture.

02:02:34.000 And so a lot of you may have heard us, you know, Ian and I talking about tabletop games and other nonsense.

02:02:38.000 Look, Magic the Gathering is one of the most popular card games.

02:02:41.000 It's the OG card game.

02:02:43.000 The easiest way for you to understand it, if you're not familiar,

02:02:45.000 is it's when you combine poker and chess.

02:02:48.000 So it's a strategy, turn-based strategy, but you've also got that element of like,

02:02:51.000 what's in his hand?

02:02:52.000 What's he got?

02:02:53.000 Has he got the card?

02:02:54.000 Is he gonna beat me?

02:02:55.000 And it was extremely popular.

02:02:56.000 People who play it, they're not all like, you know, role-playing or anything.

02:03:01.000 It's not like cosplay.

02:03:02.000 It's like a strategy game.

02:03:03.000 But they went woke.

02:03:04.000 They're getting woker.

02:03:06.000 And this is really, really bad for culture.

02:03:08.000 Same thing with D&D, and now they want to own people who make the content.

02:03:11.000 It got bought!

02:03:12.000 Wizards of the Coast got... Well, D&D got bought by Wizards of the Coast, then got bought by Hasbro, so it's like this corporate conglomeration is... Blackrock owns Hasbro, so now we've got these weird... We want to make... I want it to be decentralized.

02:03:23.000 I want it to be like skateboarding.

02:03:24.000 Of course there are skateboard companies, and you can buy their boards, but you can also make your own board, and you can skate.

02:03:29.000 I want to make a game that can have a huge impact on culture.

02:03:32.000 You go to card shops, and you're playing the game, But there is no centralized owner of the game.

02:03:37.000 There's a game format, the rules, the elements of it are open source and available to everybody, and then the popular versions exist, and you know, they can, maybe it's like someone makes their own card set, and you can choose to accept it or canon or whatever.

02:03:52.000 We gotta figure that part out.

02:03:53.000 But anyway, this is what we're doing, and if you believe in that, you wanna help us do things like impacting culture, making music, You know, impacting the skate community, building coffee shops, being a member helps.

02:04:04.000 You can also smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and you can follow us at Timcast IRL.

02:04:11.000 You can follow us at Timcast.

02:04:13.000 DC Drano, you want to shout anything out?

02:04:16.000 I'm DC Drano on all the platforms.

02:04:20.000 Well, DC underscore Drano.

02:04:21.000 Yeah, DC underscore Drano.

02:04:23.000 You can follow me there.

02:04:23.000 What's your Instagram again?

02:04:25.000 DC underscore Drano.

02:04:26.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

02:04:27.000 That was great.

02:04:28.000 Really appreciate you.

02:04:29.000 My website is youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:04:32.000 I did a video on there that's doing really well right now.

02:04:35.000 It is a deep dive on the World Economic Forum on Elon Musk and a lot of the other crazier stuff that's happening out there.

02:04:42.000 I got a big product launch coming soon.

02:04:44.000 That's going to be really funny and hilarious to stay tuned with that and everything that I do.

02:04:48.000 Check out youtube.com forward slash we are change.

02:04:51.000 See you there.

02:04:52.000 And I had a super chat here from, or it wasn't a super chat, it was just from Schutz that says, got to have a mud wizard in Crosslands. 0.87

02:04:58.000 I kind of like that, mud wizard. 1.00

02:04:59.000 I'm going to write that down.

02:05:01.000 Any advice or information or ideas you give me will be used at my sole discretion and will be owned by me and, or actually by Tim Cass.

02:05:10.000 So keep that in mind.

02:05:11.000 Everything's going to be open source.

02:05:12.000 I have no interest in controlling or owning any kind of information at this state of my life.

02:05:16.000 I have a feeling it won't be the last time, but it's been awesome to finally meet you guys.

02:05:20.000 tonight, but I really enjoy hanging out with you, man.

02:05:22.000 Hopefully we'll get to do this again.

02:05:23.000 I have a feeling it won't be the last time, but it's been awesome to finally meet you guys. I

02:05:28.000 have a lot of respect and admiration for what you're doing because,

02:05:32.000 like I was saying before, I speak to the MAGA base.

02:05:36.000 I try to be a voice of the MAGA people, but the audience that you guys are reaching is the most important because it grows this movement for freedom.

02:05:46.000 It's a big tent party and I'm not touching, I'm not reaching people in the card games and the video games and the skate shops.

02:05:54.000 So it's a team effort to help save this country and I'm just damn proud of what y'all are doing.

02:06:00.000 We have to...

02:06:02.000 Inspire young people.

02:06:04.000 And if a young person goes to a comic book shop today.

02:06:07.000 When I was a kid, I'm 12, I go to a comic shop.

02:06:09.000 When I was 12, we were all rollerblading.

02:06:12.000 And I would rollerblade to the comic book shop.

02:06:14.000 I turned 13, I'm skateboarding all of a sudden.

02:06:16.000 At the comic shop, I'm watching Dragon Ball Z. I'm watching, you know, Justice League.

02:06:21.000 And those were the things that inspired me when I was a little kid.

02:06:24.000 Naruto and Goku and a lot of these anime, mangas and animes, whatever you call it, the character is always about someone underestimated who has to work really, really hard.

02:06:40.000 I'll give you an example.

02:06:42.000 Black Clover is an anime.

02:06:44.000 I stopped watching it, but I really like it.

02:06:46.000 It's this world where everybody eventually gets a grimoire like not everybody but some people have magic and like a book will appear and like whoa and then the book has magic spells they can cast.

02:06:56.000 This one kid desperately wants to be you know like a mage working for the king but he has no magic powers so instead he works out until he becomes this extremely physically powerful dude and then he's actually able to compete on a level with people who have magic And then eventually he does get like negative magic or whatever, but he's just got a sword.

02:07:15.000 And so what I really love about a show like that is that he's up against all these people who are either naturally talented or were gifted things or are prodigies.

02:07:24.000 And then he's always had to work as hard as possible, but he ends up winning.

02:07:27.000 That's the kind of message kids need to hear.

02:07:30.000 This dude, like they show him like just doing pushups nonstop and they're like making fun of him, like, ha ha, he has no magic.

02:07:34.000 And then he like jumps so hard he shatters the ground.

02:07:38.000 And it's like, No one's going to give you magic.

02:07:41.000 You have to do the work.

02:07:42.000 That's why we have to make games. 0.68

02:07:44.000 That's why we have to skate.

02:07:45.000 That's why we have to make music.

02:07:47.000 Because we don't want kids growing up watching shows where it's like, the world is owed to you.

02:07:52.000 You can have whatever you want. 0.99

02:07:53.000 You can even cut off your own genitals and you know, no, no, no. 0.99

02:07:56.000 We want to tell people like the world is not just, the world is not fair. 0.99

02:08:00.000 We have to work hard every day to bring that fairness, to bring justice.

02:08:05.000 And if we're going to be superheroes, it's not because you're an X-Man and you turned 13 and got magic powers.

02:08:12.000 It's because you did a hundred push-ups every single day and you earned that.

02:08:16.000 That's the message you got to give to kids.

02:08:17.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:08:18.000 So, um, you do, do we mention, uh, do you search?

02:08:22.000 Yeah.

02:08:23.000 How do you pronounce your last name?

02:08:24.000 Uh, it's, it's yeah.

02:08:24.000 Exactly.

02:08:26.000 Splurge is my, it's my legal name actually.

02:08:28.000 Yeah.

02:08:29.000 But my name is Serge.

02:08:31.000 My name is pronounced Dupreeh.

02:08:33.000 My internet name is Dotcom.

02:08:36.000 D-O-T-C-O-M. 1.00

02:08:37.000 I keep wanting to be like, Dupreeh! 1.00

02:08:39.000 Engage!

02:08:40.000 I love that name, Dupreeh.

02:08:42.000 Hey, thank you.

02:08:43.000 My parents would be stoked to hear you say that.

02:08:45.000 Surge.com, I'm everywhere.

02:08:47.000 Surge.com, SoundCloud, Instagram, Twitter, I guess, all this stuff.

02:08:51.000 I'm trying to be more of a troll and be more annoying on Twitter.

02:08:53.000 I understand Twitter humor now.

02:08:55.000 Careful, though, because in text, they don't understand the context.

02:08:58.000 Oh, yes, yeah.

02:09:00.000 Too much sarcasm for my own good.

02:09:02.000 But yeah, follow me there.

02:09:04.000 I will be in the chat, as always.

02:09:05.000 I'll be in the comments, I should say, rather.

02:09:08.000 And yeah, talk to you guys there.

02:09:10.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:09:12.000 Steven Crowder will be on this show on Monday, so just for those that made it this far in the show and didn't dip earlier, I will confirm.

02:09:17.000 You told them!

02:09:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:20.000 I'm getting texts from the crew and, you know, I'm talking to Steven as well.

02:09:25.000 Oh, they want to announce it.

02:09:26.000 Well, I just asked him, I was like, is it okay if I tell people you're going to be on the show?

02:09:29.000 He's like, yeah, yeah.

02:09:30.000 So Steve will be here on Monday.

02:09:31.000 Soonest we can get him in.

02:09:32.000 Really excited.

02:09:33.000 Glad to, you know, I think it's gonna be really, really awesome.

02:09:36.000 He's got a lot he wants to say about this.

02:09:38.000 Obviously, we've given our thoughts.

02:09:39.000 We're more of the fence sitting, you know, milquetoast fence sitters on this regard.

02:09:42.000 But, you know, Stephen's invited to come.

02:09:45.000 And then maybe we'll end up having Jeremy back.

02:09:47.000 Because, I don't know, I like both these guys.

02:09:50.000 So this will be interesting.

02:09:52.000 This should be fun.

02:09:53.000 We're going to go to the Members Only section.

02:09:54.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:09:55.000 We'll see you all at TimCast.com.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 19, 2023

Timcast IRL - Elon Musk DECLARES WAR On World Economic Forum w- DC Draino

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