Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Dave Chappelle Issues Demands To Netflix Employees, ROASTING Them w-Mark Hemingway

00:00:00.000 You Dave Chappelle is fired back at the activists and the

00:00:09.000 Netflix employees that were complaining about his comedy special

00:00:12.000 With his own list of demands He said, I will not bend to anyone, but if you want to meet, you have to abide by my conditions.

00:00:19.000 And one of them was a direct roast of comedian Hannah Gadsby.

00:00:25.000 He just said you have to admit she's not funny, and it's just, uh, it's kind of funny.

00:00:29.000 Dave Chappelle's basically striking back, rejecting the cancellation of him as a comedian, but this is an interesting subject because I'm not entirely sure Dave Chappelle will survive the cancel attempt, because these activists show up in front of the building, as you may have seen with this big protest, they attack people, the media lies on their behalf, and it goes viral.

00:00:48.000 But I gotta say, Dave Chappelle's response right now might actually be what helps fend this off.

00:00:54.000 Because he's refusing to back down in such a way, maybe we'll get something good out of it.

00:00:58.000 So we gotta talk about that.

00:00:59.000 And I wanna talk about CNN's ratings being just absolutely miserable.

00:01:03.000 The ratings for Joe Biden's town hall were in the gutter.

00:01:06.000 And then we have Arrest Fauci trending.

00:01:08.000 Because Fauci was funding some very disturbing animal experiments and now people want him to be arrested.

00:01:15.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:15.000 We'll talk about a lot.

00:01:16.000 There's a lot going on.

00:01:17.000 Cops quitting.

00:01:18.000 Cops protesting in New York.

00:01:19.000 Marching down the street chanting, let's go Brandon.

00:01:22.000 We've got San Francisco prosecutors quitting.

00:01:24.000 People in SF saying you can't live here anymore.

00:01:26.000 It's too dangerous.

00:01:27.000 So, joining us to talk about all of this is Mark Hemingway.

00:01:31.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:32.000 Yeah, hi, I'm Mark Hemingway.

00:01:34.000 I am a senior writer for Real Clear Investigations, and I have worked at three magazines, two daily newspapers, a financial wire service, and a think tank over the course of my career.

00:01:45.000 And yeah, so I'm glad to be here at the future of journalism.

00:01:49.000 Thank you.

00:01:49.000 There's a book behind you.

00:01:51.000 Yes.

00:01:52.000 So I co-wrote this book with my wife behind me.

00:01:55.000 It's on the 2020 election.

00:01:58.000 It's called Rigged.

00:02:00.000 I'm gonna have to turn around to remember the subtitle.

00:02:03.000 How the Media, Big Tech, and Democrats Seized Our Elections.

00:02:07.000 And so this book was kind of an attempt to make sense of what happened in 2020.

00:02:12.000 Um, where, you know, there was a lot of crazy, you know, things that people were saying about what happened or did happen after the election.

00:02:20.000 But the truth is, you know, my wife and I stepped back and took like, you know, 30,000 foot view of the election where you have big tech censorship.

00:02:27.000 You have all these crazy COVID narratives.

00:02:29.000 Um, you know, you have rule changes.

00:02:31.000 Yeah.

00:02:31.000 There were massive changes across the board to election rules because of the pandemic and everything else.

00:02:37.000 mail-in balloting being this massive thing that happened, and really looked at how the

00:02:43.000 election happened.

00:02:44.000 And I think we came to the conclusion, I think a lot of people did, we felt very uneasy about

00:02:49.000 the election, which is to say that I'm not out here saying the election was stolen, but

00:02:54.000 was it a situation here where people would say it was free and fair and wasn't substantially

00:02:58.000 corrupt?

00:02:59.000 I don't think so.

00:03:00.000 Easy way to put it is Time Magazine's The Shadow Campaign to Save the Election.

00:03:04.000 We talk a lot about that in the book.

00:03:06.000 I mean, they literally called a coalition of corporate interests coming together to oust Donald Trump a cabal in Time Magazine.

00:03:13.000 And somehow this wasn't setting off klaxons. 0.70

00:03:15.000 You guys are crazy conspiracy theorists.

00:03:17.000 They were just fortifying it. 0.99

00:03:18.000 All right.

00:03:19.000 Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings.

00:03:21.000 This is Ogrodowski here of WeAreChange.org.

00:03:23.000 And we just had an incredible event just a few hours ago here in West Virginia.

00:03:27.000 It was awesome.

00:03:28.000 I remember going on stage and I don't know what happened, but something happened where I just was speaking my mind and I was just, I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:03:35.000 I don't want to take over this event.

00:03:37.000 But it was really incredible.

00:03:38.000 It was really awesome.

00:03:39.000 And I was so happy to be a part of it.

00:03:41.000 And thanks.

00:03:42.000 Thank you guys for organizing it.

00:03:43.000 And oh, yeah.

00:03:44.000 The shirt I have on will either get you instant friends or enemies and it says the media is the virus and you could get yours on thebestpoliticalshirts.com It was invigorating to be eight feet away from you when you lit fire like a lightning rod on stage the other night.

00:03:59.000 I don't know what happened.

00:04:00.000 I was just like, ah!

00:04:01.000 The spirit embodies you, Luke.

00:04:03.000 Lit fire like a lightning rod.

00:04:04.000 That's right.

00:04:05.000 I'm part Slavic, too, I think, deep down.

00:04:08.000 I'm actually just looking at Rogan's Instagram, and I see him, Chappelle, Donnell, Tom Segura, and Jeff Ross played in Nashville.

00:04:15.000 I think Dave's going to be OK.

00:04:16.000 He's got a good group of friends.

00:04:18.000 I'm going to keep him grounded and keep him—because really, you can be famous as you want, you can still go crazy, but when you have good friends, that's what you need.

00:04:25.000 True that.

00:04:26.000 And that's what he's got.

00:04:27.000 Absolutely.

00:04:28.000 I'm glad to be here as well.

00:04:29.000 Our event was fantastic.

00:04:31.000 I wish that more people could have come.

00:04:32.000 I'm hoping that we can expand as we go along, but we need to get our chops and see if we can make everything work perfectly for everyone.

00:04:39.000 Right on.

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00:05:09.000 friends.

00:05:10.000 Let's talk about some news.

00:05:11.000 And I want to start with Dave Chappelle because, you know, I was talking about the Alec Baldwin

00:05:17.000 I believe new information has emerged showing that Alec Baldwin is potentially criminally responsible for this.

00:05:25.000 And I'm not trying to make this a segment about Alec Baldwin, but I want to explain.

00:05:29.000 This is a guy who is the producer in a movie.

00:05:33.000 Who knew there had been a negligent discharge multiple times, was then handed a weapon, did not check it, even though he's been trained for decades, pointed it at the crew, pulled the trigger, killing a woman.

00:05:46.000 And you see all these people on the left saying, he's not at fault, it was an accident.

00:05:50.000 There was a post on Reddit where they were like, if you think that a guy who accidentally shot someone should go to jail, but the president shouldn't, you know, Donald Trump.

00:05:59.000 Then they're like, something's wrong with you.

00:06:00.000 And I'm like, let me just say it one more time.

00:06:02.000 Alec Baldwin was a producer on the movie.

00:06:05.000 There had been two separate negligent discharges the crew knew about.

00:06:07.000 Some crew had walked off the set.

00:06:09.000 He has been trained in how to handle the firearms on different movies.

00:06:12.000 And he didn't.

00:06:14.000 Which means there's got to be a criminal investigation into what he knew and what he didn't.

00:06:18.000 Now I bring that up because it's purely cultural.

00:06:20.000 The politics don't matter.

00:06:22.000 Alec Baldwin is an activist, right?

00:06:23.000 So everyone's like, oh, you know, Alec Baldwin, we gotta protect him.

00:06:27.000 That's really what it's about.

00:06:28.000 So when I see the story with Dave Chappelle, now to segue into why the Dave Chappelle story matters, I actually was saying in the past week or so with this whole Dave Chappelle Netflix thing, you get the Netflix employees coming out, physically attacking a guy, claiming that after they destroy his sign, claim it's now a weapon.

00:06:43.000 Then the media reports that the guy was actually the one attacking them.

00:06:47.000 Culture is everything.

00:06:48.000 And they've got the media, they've got cultural institutions.

00:06:51.000 But Dave Chappelle did something funny.

00:06:53.000 Variety says Dave Chappelle, willing to discuss the closer with trans community, but says he's not bending to anybody's demands.

00:06:59.000 This is not true.

00:07:00.000 Dave Chappelle actually says members of the LGBTQ plus and trans community were supportive of him.

00:07:06.000 These are the activists.

00:07:06.000 These are the wingnut activists, the political actors, not people who are simply LGBTQ.

00:07:12.000 And he said, quote, I want everyone in this audience to know, that even though the media frames it, that it's me versus that community, that is not what it is. 0.97

00:07:20.000 Do not blame the LGBTQ community for any of this crap. 0.95

00:07:23.000 This has nothing to do with them. 0.98

00:07:25.000 It's about corporate interests, and what I can say, and what I cannot say.

00:07:28.000 For the record, and I need you to know this, everyone I know from that community has been loving and supportive, supporting, so I don't know what all this nonsense is about.

00:07:37.000 He said, I believe Chappelle also spoke about the upcoming documentary.

00:07:40.000 This film that I made was invited to every film festival in the United States, and some of those invitations I accepted.

00:07:46.000 When this controversy came out about the closure, they began disinviting me from these film festivals.

00:07:51.000 And now today, not a film company, not a movie studio, not a film festival, nobody will touch this film.

00:07:57.000 Thank God for Ted Sarandos and Netflix.

00:07:59.000 He's the only one that didn't cancel me yet.

00:08:02.000 This is important context.

00:08:03.000 People did not realize that Dave Chappelle has been cancelled across the board, but he's standing defiant.

00:08:11.000 They go on to say, though Chappelle said he was willing to meet with some members of the trans community, Or the activist community.

00:08:16.000 See how they try to do that with variety?

00:08:17.000 They try to make these extremists the entirety of the trans community.

00:08:21.000 I'm pretty sure Blair White's a member of that community.

00:08:23.000 We had a fan at the event Saturday who was trans.

00:08:25.000 This is not fair.

00:08:27.000 He says he jokingly listed off a slew of conditions that would have to be met.

00:08:33.000 To the transgender community, I am more than willing to give you an audience, but you will not summon me. 1.00

00:08:38.000 I'm not bending to anybody's demands.

00:08:40.000 And if you want to meet with me, I'd be more than willing to, but I have some conditions.

00:08:44.000 First of all, you cannot come if you have not watched my special from beginning to end.

00:08:48.000 You must come to a place of my choosing at a time of my choosing.

00:08:51.000 And thirdly, you must admit that Hannah Gadsby is not funny.

00:08:54.000 There it was.

00:08:56.000 Brilliant.

00:08:57.000 Smart.

00:08:57.000 I loved it.

00:08:58.000 And that was the perfect response we needed right now.

00:09:01.000 There's a huge conflict happening.

00:09:03.000 And we also have to understand that this is not just Dave Chappelle shooting shots for no reason.

00:09:08.000 Hannah Gadsby attacked Dave and the CEO of Netflix before.

00:09:14.000 The CEO of Netflix came out in response to a lot of this ... controversy by saying quote so we have sex education orange ... is the new black control Z Hannah Gadsby and Dave Chappelle ... all on Netflix key to this is increasing diversity on the ... content team itself now that's a simple response saying hey ... everyone here gets a voice on this platform on this very ... important platform and Hannah responded on Instagram.

00:09:41.000 By saying quote Ted just a quick note to let you know that I would prefer if you didn't drag my name into your mess now I have to deal with even more of the hate and anger that Dave Chappelle's fans like to unleash on me every time Dave gets $20 million.

00:09:58.000 So those are very big words by her.

00:10:00.000 partial world views and then later she adds you didn't pay me nearly enough to

00:10:05.000 deal with this with the real-world consequences of the hate speech 0.97

00:10:09.000 whistling you refuse to acknowledge F you Ted you're and you're amoral 0.86

00:10:15.000 algorithm cult so those are very big words by her yeah well I think a lot of 0.91

00:10:21.000 people are angry at Gatsby for you know continuing to marketing market what she

00:10:27.000 I mean, that would induce some kind of hateful response in me if I was told this was going to be funny and I watched what she did. 0.97

00:10:34.000 But, you know, you've made a really excellent point there, though, about how they keep trying to say that this activist fringe represents this wide swath of people.

00:10:42.000 I saw Andrew Sullivan speak just a couple of weeks ago, and he made this point Where he said, you know, it's been crazy.

00:10:47.000 You know, I'm a gay man.

00:10:48.000 You know, my historical civil rights struggle and whatever else there is about my identity is not the same as a lesbian.

00:10:54.000 It's not the same as a bisexual. 0.91

00:10:55.000 It's not the same as a transsexual. 1.00

00:10:57.000 And with Q, they're just including every white woman with blue hair.

00:11:02.000 I mean, it's absolutely insane that somehow you can claim to speak for so many people and everyone just accept that as a fact.

00:11:09.000 I'll say this.

00:11:09.000 I'll take credit for being at least somewhat right in this regard, because I was saying when this was starting, I think Dave Chappelle is going to lose this one.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, no.

00:11:15.000 I think you're right.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:11:17.000 they're trying to cancel Dave Chappelle and I think it and I said actually I

00:11:20.000 think it might work to hear Dave come out and say that he's being disinvited

00:11:23.000 from film festivals and no one will touch this film anymore they got him I

00:11:28.000 yeah no I I think you're right I'm a closer yeah I'm pretty sure he's talking

00:11:32.000 about the closer so closer The Closer.

00:11:35.000 We should put it on TimCast.com, man.

00:11:37.000 No, Netflix owns it.

00:11:39.000 It's licensed.

00:11:40.000 But he's saying, he says, the film I made was invited to every film festival in the US.

00:11:45.000 When the controversy came out, he got disinvited from all of these film festivals.

00:11:48.000 It was only Netflix that were willing to take him.

00:11:49.000 I think this only happened because he opened up that possibility by ending the comedy special seriously.

00:11:55.000 And I think if he would have laughed it off, I think it would have been like sticks and stones.

00:11:58.000 That's just my own personal opinion on this matter.

00:12:01.000 But again, as you see, Hannah Gatsby responds very seriously.

00:12:05.000 The best way to disarm someone who's too serious and taking themselves way too seriously is to laugh at them.

00:12:12.000 So this was the perfect response to Hannah.

00:12:14.000 And a lot of people are laughing about this.

00:12:16.000 A lot of people are talking about this.

00:12:18.000 This is something that could go either way, but the shots were fired back by Dave.

00:12:24.000 It was good to see those shots fired.

00:12:26.000 I also want to say, I think people make a mistake in thinking that this is somehow about the audience.

00:12:32.000 I mean, this is really about what's going on internally at all of these entertainment companies.

00:12:36.000 A couple months back, I did a story on digital advertising and how there are all these boycotts against right-leaning media and stuff like that.

00:12:45.000 I talked to an advertising exec, and he made this point explicitly.

00:12:50.000 He said, it used to be when this stuff first started happening, you'd go to the company and you'd say, look, this is just a social media fracas.

00:12:55.000 It's going to blow over in 48 hours.

00:12:56.000 You've got nothing to worry about.

00:12:58.000 Now it's totally different.

00:12:59.000 The culture has penetrated these companies.

00:13:01.000 So what you've got to worry about is like, you know, Sarandos at

00:13:04.000 Netflix or whatever, dealing with his, you know, top 10, 10

00:13:08.000 of his top executives coming to him saying, you know, I'm not going to

00:13:11.000 work at this company if you continue to act this way, because they're all

00:13:14.000 what that's the that's the.

00:13:15.000 Fire him. 0.82

00:13:17.000 Yeah.

00:13:17.000 They got to fire these people.

00:13:18.000 Well, they also have to deal with the ESG and a lot of the big banks and a lot of the big institutions that are pushing pressure on them.

00:13:25.000 So it's not just Netflix and the employees there.

00:13:27.000 I mean, even with that protest, I mean, did you see how the media hyped it up?

00:13:31.000 A thousand people are going to come out.

00:13:34.000 Maybe a few dozen.

00:13:35.000 Let's be honest here.

00:13:36.000 I think that was actually fair.

00:13:37.000 So I saw the criticism that there was one source that said, we estimate 1,000 people will come.

00:13:44.000 The media ran it and then everyone picked the story up.

00:13:46.000 But as you know, Luke, whenever you see a social media post saying, come to this event, and there are invites given out, on Facebook, when it says 1,000, we always would be like, that means 100.

00:13:58.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:13:59.000 Because you get 10 times as many people saying they will go, and a 10th show up.

00:14:04.000 But this is also important to bring up because they had the mainstream media hyping this up.

00:14:08.000 So people were hearing about this.

00:14:09.000 People knew about this far and wide.

00:14:12.000 They were doing the... They showed up!

00:14:14.000 Exactly.

00:14:14.000 I mean, when you compare that, we also have to understand that on the bigger backdrop of it.

00:14:20.000 Again, that just proves what I was saying.

00:14:21.000 This is not about what audiences want out of comedy.

00:14:24.000 This is about the imperatives of corporations.

00:14:27.000 perspective.

00:14:28.000 But again, that just proves that I was saying this is not about what audiences want out

00:14:32.000 of comedy.

00:14:33.000 This is about the imperatives of corporations.

00:14:36.000 That's what this is about.

00:14:37.000 I think that, you know, Dave Chappelle is it's like a grandfathering and kind of thing

00:14:44.000 where when Dave Chappelle's career ends, when he gets old and moves on, we will never see

00:14:49.000 a Dave Chappelle for this this new time period.

00:14:53.000 So, I'll put it this way.

00:14:54.000 Assuming that... You know what?

00:14:56.000 Let me slow down. 1.00

00:14:58.000 Michael Malice likes to say, you know, these people are so dumb. 1.00

00:15:01.000 How could you possibly think we're going to lose? 1.00

00:15:03.000 And I'm like, dude, zombies are dumb too, but a lot of them overwhelm the system and then people are running, at least in movies.

00:15:11.000 If Dave Chappelle is saying that festivals are canceling him, and he's the king, Joe Rogan said he's possibly the funniest guy, the funniest comedian on the planet, then what does that mean for where we're headed? 0.86

00:15:22.000 So what happens now is, you know what, I was actually thinking that Dave Chappelle might survive this.

00:15:26.000 He might survive the cancellation to a certain degree.

00:15:29.000 And then, what would happen is they would just be like, let him age out.

00:15:33.000 Once he's no longer in media or relevant, we just don't let the next generation do it.

00:15:37.000 So there was that guy, Shane, what's his name?

00:15:39.000 The guy from SNL who was like, he got fired?

00:15:41.000 Oh yeah, I don't remember his last name.

00:15:42.000 Gillis.

00:15:43.000 Shane the Gillis?

00:15:44.000 I think it's Shane Gillis.

00:15:45.000 Let me double check that.

00:15:46.000 So this is a really good example.

00:15:47.000 Shane Gillis did an Asian accent stereotype.

00:15:49.000 You remember this story?

00:15:50.000 Yeah, I do.

00:15:51.000 And then he got fired.

00:15:53.000 Chappelle on Netflix did an even more egregious, where he like made the face and everything, and it was celebrated.

00:15:59.000 They cheered for it.

00:16:00.000 They even gave him another special at, you know, 20 plus million dollars.

00:16:04.000 So for a while I thought, okay, they're gonna not let any of the new guys, any new people with this kind of humor, edgy humor, get jobs, and they'll tolerate the old comedians until they're finally gone.

00:16:13.000 Now it's like they're even nuking Chappelle now.

00:16:16.000 You know, so I'm not... I don't want to be... I think people need to realize, if the story ended there, fine.

00:16:22.000 I guess you'd call it pessimistic, but I'm not saying the story ends there.

00:16:25.000 I'm saying we're doing stuff.

00:16:27.000 We just had an event with Ryan Long.

00:16:28.000 I can't say what Ryan Long said.

00:16:30.000 He's hilarious.

00:16:31.000 He's awesome.

00:16:32.000 But it was insane.

00:16:33.000 Everyone was like, Ryan Long is an amazing comedian.

00:16:37.000 And then he was like... I can't spoil any of the jokes, but it was extremely offensive.

00:16:42.000 You had people going like, oh man, but it was hilarious.

00:16:47.000 And you're not going to find that on Netflix.

00:16:49.000 No, you're not going to find that.

00:16:50.000 But I do think things are happening like so like Václav Havel in Czechoslovakia, you know, he wrote this famous essay where he talked about the creation of a parallel polis.

00:16:59.000 Meaning that, you know, when you live in a culture that is so, you know, dominated by lies, that it's necessary for the people that don't want to live by those lies to like create up, you know, their own institutions, their own culture and live by that.

00:17:11.000 Now, the crazy thing about this, what's happening is they're foisting all this stuff on us from the top down, right?

00:17:17.000 But at the same time, we're not communist Czechoslovakia, you know, I mean, you know, maybe You know, it's not dark yet.

00:17:22.000 It's getting there.

00:17:23.000 But we still live in a culture where we can build our own institutions.

00:17:27.000 We can do new things like, you know, this show, for instance.

00:17:30.000 We can build up a parallel polis.

00:17:31.000 And maybe if we do enough of that, then we can supplant this sort of, you know, dominant ideology.

00:17:35.000 Yeah, definitely. 0.98

00:17:36.000 Especially with the way psychedelics break people out of that crap. 0.97

00:17:40.000 I think that they're like in D.C. 0.99

00:17:41.000 now.

00:17:42.000 They've decriminalized psilocybin.

00:17:43.000 I think pretty much Washington state like that will shatter this nonsense.

00:17:49.000 Maybe.

00:17:49.000 There's a lot of people who live in this matrix, you know?

00:17:53.000 But I want to say something.

00:17:54.000 I want to say I was enlightened today when my name was trending on Twitter.

00:17:57.000 Oh.

00:17:58.000 And it was also trending alongside Noam Chomsky.

00:18:01.000 For one reason.

00:18:03.000 Dune.

00:18:05.000 The new movie.

00:18:05.000 You saw it.

00:18:06.000 I saw half of it, because we walked out of the theater.

00:18:10.000 I will say this, and I'm trying to be offensive, so get ready to be offended, Dune fans.

00:18:15.000 The only people who like Dune are the originalists who are fans of the book.

00:18:20.000 They understand what they're watching and they're amazed and inspired by the cinematography,

00:18:23.000 the art, it was beautiful, the music was amazing, incredible, and robots that were made to be

00:18:29.000 on the internet to prop up the movie and try and help sell it.

00:18:32.000 But I genuinely think they're trying to, you know, we talked about this after we walked

00:18:35.000 out, I think they're trying to tank the movie because they released it for free on HBO Max

00:18:39.000 and the theater was empty.

00:18:42.000 But I was going to say, you know, I'm trending on Twitter and I'm like, this is why there's

00:18:47.000 going to be a civil war.

00:18:48.000 Not seriously about Dune, but we walked into the theater.

00:18:51.000 I said the movie was too slow.

00:18:53.000 There was no story in the hour we watched.

00:18:56.000 It was confusing and nothing was happening to the hardcore Dune fans.

00:18:59.000 They totally understood it.

00:18:59.000 We walked out.

00:19:01.000 But to see the amount of hate that was generated by this and a ton of the tweets were basically like, They were political.

00:19:09.000 The leftist Dune fans were attacking me over politics for me saying I didn't enjoy a movie.

00:19:14.000 And I'm like, we are absolutely effed if we're at a point where these leftists are all sharing my tweet.

00:19:24.000 My name was trending because leftists were quoting me and sharing it around.

00:19:28.000 I had high-profile YouTubers on the left.

00:19:31.000 That was their big attack.

00:19:33.000 That was it.

00:19:34.000 Not a policy position.

00:19:35.000 Because what do I tweet about where they're going to be like, this is something I disagree with.

00:19:39.000 I look at things like that, which in turn, like the Alec Baldwin thing, that's why I think culture is the most important thing.

00:19:45.000 Otherwise, or I should say, what's happening is that there are people like Noam Chomsky, and we'll start talking about Noam Chomsky in a minute, who think that they own all culture, the entire country, and that they are the dominant force with supreme power.

00:20:03.000 And then there are people who realize that's not true, and these people are moral absolutists and authoritarians.

00:20:09.000 But I wonder, you know, if people, if any of those people will realize that they don't have the majorities they think they do.

00:20:16.000 I think sometimes we might be too hard on ourselves, and I think we should celebrate some victories, especially when it comes to alternatives, whether it's this show, Rogan, and others.

00:20:25.000 We have to understand, even with all the odds against us, even with the algorithms, even with the demonetizations, the down rankings, and the controlling of the algorithms, still our voices are heard, and I think that's a victory in itself.

00:20:40.000 But even if they do cancel Dave at these festivals, these festivals are missing out on a real discussion that people really want to have about these issues that is honest, that isn't censored, that isn't squeezy-cleaned, that isn't people lecturing them about what they think is right.

00:20:54.000 So I think these voices will always be heard in one way or another, and it's a good thing.

00:21:00.000 We did this event on Saturday.

00:21:01.000 We had a bunch of people come out, and someone asked me about Joe Rogan, and they said they felt like Joe Rogan was letting us down in terms of the culture war and standing up for freedom and stuff.

00:21:11.000 You know, and I basically was like, dude, Joe Rogan has done more for freedom than, you know, almost anyone else, and he's an incredibly powerful voice in media that, you know, we're grateful to have, but...

00:21:21.000 I will say, you know, I was disappointed that he performed at Madison Square Garden over the VAX mandate.

00:21:26.000 He says he's against it, but here we go.

00:21:28.000 And then we were actually just talking before the show about CNN with Sanjay Gupta and then Michael Malice. 0.99

00:21:34.000 We were talking about how, you know, Rogan called Don Lemon a dumb mother effer. 0.99

00:21:40.000 Yep! 0.99

00:21:41.000 And then CNN tripled down.

00:21:43.000 But you were mentioning to us about how he was defending CNN even.

00:21:47.000 Yeah, I mean, Joe Rogan clearly has a personal relationship with Jeff Zucker who runs CNN.

00:21:52.000 But before he ran CNN, he was he headed up NBC when Joe Rogan was was, you know, doing Fear Factor over there.

00:22:00.000 And, you know, on one hand, I respect that, you know, Joe Rogan has a personal relationship with somebody doesn't immediately want to, like, throw them under the bus.

00:22:07.000 But on the other hand, I don't know what to say.

00:22:10.000 I mean, he was saying lots of things along the lines of, you know, well, media are important.

00:22:15.000 You know, we've got to, you know, work with these, you know, people.

00:22:17.000 We've got to deal with this.

00:22:19.000 And it was just, like, completely conflicting.

00:22:20.000 Like, on one hand, they have literally just personally attacked him, slandered him on air, said things that were patently untrue about what he did.

00:22:29.000 You know, I mean, the ivermectin thing was insane.

00:22:30.000 I mean, the guy also took monoclonal antibodies, which is, like, the standard medical therapeutic.

00:22:36.000 Why doesn't he sue?

00:22:38.000 Well, that's a really good question.

00:22:40.000 I mean, we really need more people that can stand up and challenge media organizations in ways that it's going to make them hurt.

00:22:46.000 I've written a lot about this before where, you know, the media in this America have, you know, amazing libel protections.

00:22:54.000 It's very hard to sue a media company, especially if you're a public figure and, you know, do anything with that.

00:23:01.000 And for a long time, I think that was a source of pride in this country.

00:23:04.000 In the UK and other countries, there are a lot of frivolous libel lawsuits, but we've

00:23:08.000 kind of gone to the extreme.

00:23:10.000 I think maybe 60 years ago, there was a big public interest in protecting large media

00:23:15.000 organizations that were doing important corruption reporting and things like that at a time when

00:23:19.000 there weren't a lot of alternatives to do media stuff.

00:23:22.000 Now increasingly, you see things like the Covington Kid incident, just really capricious

00:23:28.000 mean stuff coming from the media directed at people clearly for political motivations

00:23:33.000 where they're using these libel laws as a sword rather than a shield.

00:23:37.000 I mean, they know they can't be sued or they know it's gonna be difficult or costly to sue them.

00:23:41.000 So they're just aggressively going after people in ways that are brutally unfair.

00:23:45.000 You were saying before that Times v. Sullivan was kind of assuming that the media organizations were going to be ethical and maintain that.

00:23:53.000 Which was always kind of a bad assumption, but it was a much better assumption 60 years ago than it is now, when clearly they just aren't.

00:23:59.000 I mean, if you see what goes on, you know, in CNN or any, frankly, major news organization where the New York Times editorial staff literally says words are violence.

00:24:10.000 That is not a regime that we can prop up under the color of law.

00:24:17.000 Ordinary citizens and even public figures like Joe Rogan need to have an opportunity to go after these people and stop them from doing that stuff again.

00:24:26.000 Give them an incentive.

00:24:27.000 Bloody their nose.

00:24:28.000 Say, don't lie about me again.

00:24:30.000 When did the media become such an obvious propaganda machine?

00:24:36.000 And I don't mean just politically.

00:24:39.000 I mean, you look at Rotten Tomatoes, the film Death Wish with Bruce Willis.

00:24:44.000 This is a studio film.

00:24:45.000 This is an A-lister Hollywood celeb. 0.98

00:24:50.000 But Death Witch got panned by critics because they called it a gun nut masturbation film. 0.97

00:24:55.000 And it wasn't! 0.96

00:24:56.000 It was a revenge film, like any other action film, but they went nuts on it.

00:25:01.000 And that said to me, it's not about making money for Hollywood.

00:25:05.000 It's about making sure only specific ideologies get the promotion from the machine. 0.96

00:25:09.000 I think it's Jon Stewart.

00:25:11.000 Jack Posobiec said this on the show last week, that Jon Stewart basically weaponized comedy and politics and combined them.

00:25:16.000 And I was like, I love Jon Stewart, it hurt to hear that.

00:25:18.000 But before that, it didn't exist.

00:25:20.000 And after that, it started to.

00:25:22.000 We also have to admit that this is their greatest weapon, but it's also their greatest weakness.

00:25:26.000 Because the more disingenuous, the more they lie, the more they just make stuff up and attack Children, or grandmothers who meme at their door and try to dox them like CNN did.

00:25:37.000 The more they just become more and more outrageous, the more people realize, hey, this is getting to a really sick level, and we need some alternatives here immediately.

00:25:45.000 And they will turn to alternatives.

00:25:46.000 The Onion kind of started it too.

00:25:49.000 When people saw how popular it was to just say things that were patently false, and like put a little disclaimer at the bottom and be like, by the way, this is all a joke.

00:25:58.000 Dangerous, you know dangerous. Yeah, I think for a long time, you know

00:26:02.000 We had a healthier culture in the sense that there was kind of a cultural realm and there was a political realm and

00:26:06.000 there was A little bit of overlap as there always was but by and

00:26:09.000 large those things were kept separate and I you know I don't know. I mean, it's sort of the postmodern influence.

00:26:14.000 I think just everything got crazy meta like Andrew Bartmart used to say, you know politics is

00:26:19.000 downstream from culture and that's that's true to a large extent and

00:26:23.000 And there was this kind of like meta realization across the board that that was the case.

00:26:27.000 So all of a sudden, the narratives in culture literally became the quote unquote narrative, meaning that they realized they could use that to control things.

00:26:36.000 So, you know, in the case of Dune or something, we can't just talk about how House Harkonnen, you know, is an interesting metaphor that might have some salience for our political situation or whatever.

00:26:47.000 It immediately becomes a, you know, a method of attack for Tim simply because he didn't enjoy a movie.

00:26:54.000 You know, everything is political now.

00:26:56.000 Yeah.

00:26:57.000 Well, it was funny because Breitbart said politics is downstream from culture.

00:27:00.000 Then we started hearing the social justice activists, the woke, saying that the culture is political, or the cultural is political.

00:27:08.000 And then you have people pushing back saying, no, it's not.

00:27:10.000 And I'm like, it is.

00:27:12.000 I think we should take Breitbart's statement one step further and say politics does not even matter.

00:27:17.000 The way I explained this before is, Here's an example, you know, you ever see those book wacky laws?

00:27:23.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 There's like laws from the 1800s where it's like no apple pies cooling on the windowsill on Tuesday at 7 p.m.

00:27:31.000 Never gonna be enforced today.

00:27:32.000 Why?

00:27:33.000 Culture.

00:27:34.000 The politics, the legislation, the laws are completely meaningless.

00:27:38.000 Now, to a certain extent, I'm obviously being a little hyperbolic, if there's something on the books and we're like, I disagree with this law, and then they're gonna be like, yeah, well, you know, the law's the law, and you go, oh, I guess.

00:27:50.000 However, over time, when culture changes, those laws become completely meaningless.

00:27:55.000 And they can remain in the books, and politicians can say that you can't do that, and people do it anyway.

00:28:00.000 So if that's the case, then culture is everything.

00:28:04.000 And if we're not advocating for freedom and liberty and pushing back against authoritarianism, then you will live in authoritarian woke matrix.

00:28:11.000 And that's where the Democrats, the people who live in these bubbles, the activists screaming at this guy, at the Dave Chappelle thing, they live in the social credit system.

00:28:22.000 You can choose to live in it or you can choose to walk away.

00:28:24.000 But right now we're seeing it get bigger and bigger.

00:28:26.000 And Dave Chappelle has just been flunked out of the social credit system.

00:28:30.000 Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to what you just said.

00:28:33.000 I mean, the whole point of the way the American political system was set up previously, it was to be a quote-unquote limited government, precisely because they expected everyone to live basically the full spectrum of their lives in the cultural sphere.

00:28:46.000 And now you can't get away.

00:28:49.000 I mean, and that is in and of itself very much a form of tyranny.

00:28:53.000 We're basically two separate cultures demanding each other abide by the rules of the other.

00:28:59.000 And that is untenable.

00:29:01.000 At least two.

00:29:02.000 The court of public opinion is so real.

00:29:05.000 Now that everyone's in public, it's like the evolution of law.

00:29:10.000 Obviously, if Beaumarchais, for instance, I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, he was a French revolutionary, basically aided the Americans, and was the number one French guy that helped.

00:29:19.000 He should be considered one of the founding fathers.

00:29:22.000 He got into legal trouble, but because he was such a celebrity, they just overlooked it, let him out.

00:29:27.000 Like Alec Baldwin.

00:29:30.000 Maybe what we're going to see with Alec Baldwin, like what we saw with the guy that kneeled on George Floyd's neck.

00:29:37.000 I mean, that was public opinion.

00:29:38.000 That was a court of public opinion that transpired.

00:29:42.000 So the laws, they write them down on paper, but in reality, it's what the people feel and say and do that matters.

00:29:49.000 Just to add another layer to this, that that is also manipulated because when you look at what's promoted, highlighted on social media, what's shown to you first, it's the ideas that they want you to believe in.

00:29:59.000 So if they want to make everyone feel that everyone's outraged about this specific thing, they're only going to be showing you that on social media to the point where it actually creates that situation because everyone's going to see, this is what people are doing.

00:30:12.000 I want to fit in.

00:30:13.000 I want to be normal.

00:30:14.000 I'm going to be doing this as well.

00:30:15.000 So I would actually point at big tech social media.

00:30:18.000 As being far more responsible at setting the culture than of course the mainstream media.

00:30:22.000 Less and less people are watching the mainstream media.

00:30:24.000 Less and less people are watching Jimmy Fallon and Stephen Colbert.

00:30:28.000 People hate to be lectured to.

00:30:30.000 People hate to be preached to.

00:30:31.000 And that's exactly what the mainstream media does.

00:30:33.000 I mean, just a couple years ago, I remember Leno and Letterman, and the way I remember them is that they would make fun of the Democrats and the Republicans.

00:30:41.000 They would talk about celebrity gossip, nonsense.

00:30:44.000 They would rarely get as political as the current commentators do now, to the point where we have all these commentators saying the same thing at the same time slot with very little political difference because they're literally preaching establishment bootlicking talking points.

00:30:59.000 If we see a fascist dictatorship take over, it's going to be corporate.

00:31:04.000 Of course.

00:31:04.000 Yes, without a doubt.

00:31:05.000 The corporatocracy, the multinational corporations, they're the ones essentially here creating not only the ESG score that we talked about with Jack Posobiec when he was on the show.

00:31:16.000 This is a very important element.

00:31:17.000 Corporate social credit score.

00:31:18.000 The corporate social credit score.

00:31:19.000 These are the people calling the shots here, and with them calling the shots, they don't just implement this, they create this idea that this is popular, this is public opinion.

00:31:30.000 They shape public opinion by pretending that it is reality, when in the beginning phases it's not.

00:31:36.000 Let's go with a little bit of good news, but also kind of bad news.

00:31:40.000 And I'll start with a question.

00:31:42.000 Joe Biden recently appeared on CNN.

00:31:45.000 Mark, how many viewers do you think they attracted to that spectacle with the President of these United States?

00:31:50.000 So because I'm an insane media junkie, I believe it was 1.42 million.

00:31:55.000 1.42?

00:31:55.000 Oh, Fox News has 1.2.

00:31:56.000 OK, sorry.

00:32:00.000 You were giving too much to Joe Biden.

00:32:01.000 I was quoting CNN math.

00:32:04.000 Well, so here we have the story from Fox News.

00:32:06.000 CNN's Brian Stelter avoids networks poorly watched Biden Town Hall and Reliable Sources media show.

00:32:11.000 CNN's primetime event averaged only 1.2 million viewers, finishing in third place behind Fox News and MSNBC.

00:32:19.000 Think about what this means.

00:32:20.000 That doesn't mean what you think it means.

00:32:22.000 My natural reaction was, wow, people would rather watch the Daily Fox or MSNBC as opposed to the President give a town hall? 0.99

00:32:31.000 Man, Biden must suck. 0.99

00:32:32.000 Well, the better way to put it is, people don't care about Biden. 1.00

00:32:35.000 They would rather watch their cannon fodder for the culture war. 0.64

00:32:40.000 That's that's what's actually important.

00:32:42.000 Biden is irrelevant in the culture war.

00:32:44.000 He was not Trump.

00:32:45.000 Therefore, he got votes.

00:32:47.000 But right now, we're seeing that for one, OK, here's the good news.

00:32:50.000 CNN is in crisis.

00:32:53.000 You know, they can't even get more than they can't.

00:32:55.000 They can't even get a couple million viewers off the president himself.

00:32:58.000 That's also indicative of what's happening to this country with Fox and MSNBC doing better.

00:33:02.000 People want the fight.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, no, I think that's absolutely true.

00:33:06.000 But at the same time, I mean, CNN has become MSNBC.

00:33:10.000 I mean, there's no difference there.

00:33:11.000 For a long time in cable news, they differentiated themselves.

00:33:14.000 Fox was a conservative network, MSNBC was a liberal network.

00:33:17.000 And CNN was, they were the liberal media, but they were at least trying to like, you know, present themselves as the acceptable alternative that could be shown in airports.

00:33:26.000 Now, I mean, they're deranged.

00:33:28.000 I mean, their primetime network, I mean, their primetime programming, I mean, it's not really in tone and substance different from MSNBC in terms of their political till. 0.99

00:33:36.000 Don Lemon may be one of the stupidest people I have ever seen. 0.91

00:33:42.000 Hey, Cuomo is also on that network. 1.00

00:33:44.000 That's true. 1.00

00:33:45.000 Hey, hey, you're insulting stupid people now. 1.00

00:33:47.000 Do you remember when Don Lemon asked if the missing Malaysian airline may have been sucked into a black hole? 1.00

00:33:52.000 Yes, I remember that.

00:33:54.000 That's a true story.

00:33:55.000 Good stuff.

00:33:55.000 That's CNN, desperate for ratings.

00:33:59.000 He's like, but is it possible?

00:34:00.000 I know it's preposterous, but is it preposterous?

00:34:03.000 Yes.

00:34:03.000 And people were like, oh, come on, Tim.

00:34:05.000 He was just having a little bit of fun.

00:34:07.000 And I'm like, dude.

00:34:09.000 If you want to speculate on what could have happened to a plane, a black hole swallowing it is the stupidest possible thing to even joke about because a black hole wouldn't be able to get anywhere near the planet without destroying substantially more than just one airplane. 0.68

00:34:21.000 But that's CNN for you.

00:34:23.000 These are the trusted name in news, Tim.

00:34:25.000 I mean, they're the ones that YouTube trusts more than anyone else.

00:34:28.000 They're the ones that they get put on the top of the list.

00:34:31.000 They get shown to everyone.

00:34:33.000 So years ago, David Foster Wallace wrote this really interesting essay about conservative talk radio for The Atlantic back in the day.

00:34:40.000 Supposedly, Wallace was an interesting guy.

00:34:43.000 Supposedly, he was a big Rush Limbaugh fan.

00:34:45.000 I don't know if he agreed with Limbaugh's politics, but like, he just liked listening to radio.

00:34:49.000 And he made this observation in the piece where he was talking to all these talk radio people about how they would harp on the same subjects over and over again, about how they compared talk radio and the ideas and the way they talked about things to, you know, regular radio, where it's like, look, just because the morning DJ played the hit song doesn't mean that you as the evening DJ don't get to play the hit song.

00:35:09.000 Everybody wants to hear the hit song.

00:35:11.000 And I think cable news has carried that approach forever.

00:35:13.000 Like the Malaysia Airlines thing is a classic example.

00:35:17.000 They just, you know, clung to this story because it was getting CNN meager ratings at the time.

00:35:22.000 And then they were in a slow news cycle for a couple of weeks. And so they just

00:35:25.000 pumped that story. So you get Don Lemon, who is already, you know, has the brains God gave trout,

00:35:29.000 you know, saying things about black holes eventually, right?

00:35:31.000 He ran out of stuff to talk about.

00:35:33.000 But they're still clinging to this model where they just say the same things over and over and

00:35:37.000 over again. And And the media environment isn't even what it was 10 years ago where you have so many other alternatives.

00:35:43.000 You want to hear a new and fresh perspective.

00:35:45.000 You've got a million other things that you can hear rather than, you know, one of three or four broadcast networks.

00:35:51.000 And they just haven't woken up to that reality.

00:35:52.000 It's crazy.

00:35:53.000 I think what they realized is that with the internet and the infinite, you know, field of choices, that they need to find their specific audience that will stick to them and why.

00:36:05.000 It used to be that there were very few channels to watch.

00:36:07.000 You know, we had four major networks or whatever, and then all of a sudden you have the cable channels.

00:36:12.000 And CNN was getting massive viewership just by virtue of being 24-hour news.

00:36:16.000 I mean, they were the original, you know, 24-hour news channel, so they had the ratings.

00:36:20.000 People would turn it on in airports and hotels, and they worked these deals out.

00:36:23.000 With the internet, people can choose to go read whatever news they want.

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:27.000 And they can choose the news that's actually comforting to them, and they do, which is bad.

00:36:31.000 So CNN realized, we better start pandering as much as possible to a certain crowd.

00:36:36.000 And when Trump came out, the stuff that made him the most money was not liking Trump, so then they said, we need opinion guys who don't like Trump, so now they're MSNBC.

00:36:43.000 How do you recover from that, though?

00:36:44.000 Because when Trump's gone, what do you got left?

00:36:46.000 That's it. And the other part of that story, though, was the credibility they lost during that time because they

00:36:51.000 went so hard after Trump.

00:36:52.000 They went down, say, a Trump Russia collusion rabbit hole that, you know, I just don't even know how that you can

00:36:58.000 even call yourself a journalist after publishing that stuff.

00:37:00.000 That's crazy for so many years.

00:37:02.000 I mean, and again, they just are like buffaloing through all this.

00:37:06.000 Like, new media doesn't exist.

00:37:08.000 Like, you know, the fact that they have been undermining trust on the major story that occupied a news cycle for three years turned out to be false.

00:37:16.000 I mean, they're just pretending.

00:37:17.000 They win awards for it.

00:37:19.000 And they attack people that call them out on it. 1.00

00:37:20.000 The people who, from the very beginning, were like, they're full of crap. 0.99

00:37:23.000 There's no evidence. 0.99

00:37:24.000 There's no documents.

00:37:25.000 There's nothing to prove their story.

00:37:26.000 They were vilified.

00:37:27.000 I think the New York Times won a Pulitzer for For their Trump-Russia reporting in, what was it, like March of 2019.

00:37:34.000 And the Mueller report happened like three months later.

00:37:37.000 I mean, like, literally everything they just want to pull this report was, like, invalidated.

00:37:41.000 It's madness.

00:37:42.000 And yet they just pretend that these things aren't happening.

00:37:45.000 Like, look, I mean, this is a great show.

00:37:48.000 I'm a fan of the show.

00:37:49.000 I'm here tonight because I enjoy it, but I've also got a book to promote.

00:37:51.000 And I'm here because you guys are legit competition to the cable news.

00:37:54.000 You've got a million subscribers on YouTube.

00:37:57.000 Cable news people don't think that way.

00:37:58.000 They're still kind of, you know, in the dark about this.

00:38:01.000 And it's because they're so egotistical.

00:38:03.000 They don't understand Americans are hungry for other perspectives.

00:38:06.000 They don't understand we have alternatives.

00:38:08.000 And they don't understand they're, frankly, getting better information elsewhere.

00:38:11.000 They're also public companies, so they have to make profits.

00:38:15.000 This company will make profits because it's awesome and well-designed, but it's not about the profits.

00:38:20.000 It's about the message.

00:38:22.000 I get invited on Fox News a lot more than I used to.

00:38:25.000 I used to be invited on periodically for specific stories.

00:38:29.000 Now it just feels like the guys over at Fox will hit me up twice a month or whatever and be like, hey, do you want to come on this segment?

00:38:35.000 I just did a segment the other day, and I was thinking to myself afterwards, why am I even doing this anymore?

00:38:41.000 Like, they hit me up and they're like, yo, we'll send out a van.

00:38:43.000 It's really easy.

00:38:44.000 It's 10 minutes.

00:38:45.000 You just pop in.

00:38:45.000 And I'm like, yeah, sure, why not, right?

00:38:47.000 And then this time around, I got out of the truck.

00:38:50.000 They have these satellite vans.

00:38:51.000 They're not satellite vans.

00:38:52.000 They're cell bonding vans.

00:38:53.000 And I was just like, why am I even bothering going on this, you know, to talk for a few minutes?

00:38:59.000 And I'll tell you, like, my thought process was, Shows like this, it's raw.

00:39:06.000 It's just a couple hours.

00:39:07.000 We talk.

00:39:08.000 I do have a bunch of stories I'm like, I want to get to and I don't want to, I don't, I want to make sure we don't just beat a dead horse and talk about too much over and over again.

00:39:15.000 So I'll be like, okay, let's, you know, try and change the subject on this, you know, so, so there is some structure to it.

00:39:20.000 But for the most part, if a conversation happens, the conversation happens.

00:39:23.000 You go on Fox News and they're like, some days they're like, it's going to be five minutes.

00:39:27.000 And they talked to me for 10, and I'm like, what's going on?

00:39:29.000 Like, they're still talking to me.

00:39:30.000 And then they were like, you were doing so well.

00:39:32.000 They just kept going with it.

00:39:33.000 And I'm like, I got a deadline.

00:39:34.000 I got to be inside.

00:39:35.000 And there are some times where they're like, it's a 10 minute segment.

00:39:37.000 And they're like, oof.

00:39:37.000 And they just cut it off after the first sentence, because they don't want you to say what you're saying, or they don't like what you're saying.

00:39:41.000 And I'm just like, people don't want this.

00:39:43.000 People don't want, you know, I think this is why you see the key demo ratings for these big networks are in the gutter.

00:39:52.000 Their overall ratings are good.

00:39:53.000 If you go by key demo, we absolutely beat all of the big cable shows.

00:39:59.000 I mean, for a number of years now, I just refused to do interviews with the mainstream media.

00:40:03.000 There's nothing to win.

00:40:04.000 A lot of people, you don't get that engagement.

00:40:06.000 You don't get that kind of honest, real kind of conversations that could really delve into issues that people could get to know you from, that people could interact and engage with you.

00:40:17.000 Like here, I got the comment section open because your voice matters.

00:40:21.000 I want to interact with you people.

00:40:23.000 back there they have make up rooms they they live in this kind of world of

00:40:27.000 delusion where they think they're all mighty and powerful and they have the

00:40:30.000 money to pretended that they are but at the end of the day it's just pretend for

00:40:34.000 them well i'll push back a little and and simply say that you

00:40:37.000 know for the time being

00:40:39.000 a lot of those issues still do bring a level of sort of resources if nothing

00:40:44.000 else and or you know some degree of professionalism in terms of editing

00:40:47.000 nothing's that most you know online media outlets that are competing or new media outlets can't haven't quite

00:40:53.000 cotton caught up to some of them have more of them will we will get to that

00:40:58.000 point But I would push back and I would say that when we're talking about ethics, the mainstream media has a very lower quality than people online.

00:41:04.000 Look at WMDs.

00:41:04.000 narrow circles that matter. Republican congressmen are watching Fox News and that matters.

00:41:10.000 Trump is watching Fox News. But I would push back and I would say that when we're talking

00:41:15.000 about ethics, the mainstream media has a very lower quality than people online. Look at

00:41:19.000 WMDs. Look at the lies that they told and the effects that they've been having on people

00:41:23.000 that cost people to die.

00:41:24.000 And Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times than they do of the

00:41:28.000 opinion of their constituents.

00:41:29.000 Yes.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, but this is the thing.

00:41:31.000 One thing about Trump I will say is, I think Trump woke up Republicans specifically, and Americans more generally, to the problems of getting mixed up with the media.

00:41:40.000 Trump was the first, you know, sort of large public figure that basically said, you know what, I don't have to leak this story to the New York Times.

00:41:48.000 I can leak this story to Breitbart or whatever and it'll have just as much of an effect.

00:41:52.000 And that was like a really threatening realization to them, the fact that he could go through alternative media and frequently did.

00:41:58.000 And that was, I think, what made the media hate them a lot.

00:42:01.000 But, you know, going back to what you were saying earlier, I mean, it is totally true that the way that the media has become so adversarial, and openly so politically, I tell this to ordinary people all the time, this happens, I'll talk to people, they will, because I, you know, know people out in the hinterlands, they're like, you're a journalist.

00:42:16.000 Someone from the Chicago Tribune or New York Times called me and they wanted to talk about this thing that's happening in my business.

00:42:21.000 And I'm like, 95% of the time, I'm like, absolutely not.

00:42:24.000 Do not talk.

00:42:25.000 Do you know the story of Mayo Gate?

00:42:27.000 No.

00:42:27.000 So let's tell the story of Mayo Gate.

00:42:30.000 There was a tweet from the North Carolina GOP.

00:42:33.000 It was a quote from a story about a business that said inflation's really bad.

00:42:38.000 We're spending 200 bucks a week more in mayonnaise.

00:42:41.000 Maybe.

00:42:41.000 And so all of a sudden, because it came from Republicans, Democrats, Huffington Post, Slate,

00:42:46.000 I don't know, a bunch of these, I think it was Slate, a bunch of these lefty outlets

00:42:49.000 picked up the story and said that the restaurant owner was lying about the cost of mayonnaise

00:42:55.000 to make Joe Biden look bad.

00:42:57.000 They did this ridiculous math where they were like, if the consumer price index is up 5%,

00:43:01.000 $200 would mean that they're spending $3,770.

00:43:05.000 Or did I say month?

00:43:06.000 It's $200 per week on mayonnaise.

00:43:08.000 And so, you know what I did?

00:43:09.000 Journalism.

00:43:14.000 He called the restaurant and I said, is this, you know, such and such restaurant?

00:43:19.000 I'm looking for the owner.

00:43:19.000 And the guy said, I'm one of the partners.

00:43:21.000 And I said, I saw a story where there's a statement from one of your, you know, principals that you were spending $200 a week more on mayonnaise.

00:43:28.000 And he went, oh yeah, yeah.

00:43:30.000 We go through about, you know, I can't remember the exact numbers, but he's like, we use these big five gallon drums, about 10 of them.

00:43:36.000 They've jumped up about 18 bucks per, you know, canister or whatever.

00:43:40.000 So, you know, do the math.

00:43:40.000 It's like 180 bucks, 200 bucks.

00:43:42.000 We rise it up.

00:43:43.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, why do you use so much mayonnaise?

00:43:46.000 Oh, it's, it's, we use it for everything.

00:43:47.000 It's, it's for, you know, people put on their sandwiches, of course.

00:43:49.000 We use it to make salad dressings.

00:43:51.000 It's used in recipes.

00:43:52.000 So we, we go through quite a bit of it.

00:43:54.000 And I was like, and what's your restaurant's capacity?

00:43:55.000 It's 250.

00:43:55.000 And I'm like, okay, so if you're hitting near capacity or half capacity, everybody gets a side of mayo or coleslaw or something on their sandwich.

00:44:03.000 Yeah, going through mayonnaise.

00:44:05.000 But they just made up a response, accused this guy of lying.

00:44:09.000 And that's why, you know, like the guy, I ended up getting a call back from someone else there who was just like, I can't believe this is happening.

00:44:17.000 We didn't say anything political.

00:44:18.000 And I'm like, this is why you don't talk to the press.

00:44:21.000 I'm actually getting, I've been getting hit up to do shows from people and a shout out to Clint Russell and Bob Murphy econ.

00:44:27.000 But.

00:44:28.000 I'm concerned, even just YouTubers, because if someone does an edited show, like I'm already ridiculous on an unedited live show.

00:44:37.000 If someone wants to take me out of context, they could destroy the way I seem.

00:44:41.000 So even like legit YouTube channels that edit their stuff, warning signs go off when they ask me.

00:44:48.000 So as someone who's a 20 plus year veteran of, you know, major news organizations, this is something I will say that has been a huge shift in the last five or 10 years with this milkshake ducking thing that did not used to happen.

00:45:01.000 And now all of a sudden, if a private citizen finds themselves in the crosshairs of a national political story and it cuts against what the media wants, they will destroy them.

00:45:09.000 Do you want to explain the milkshake duck thing?

00:45:11.000 So, um, I don't even remember the actual origins of the meme.

00:45:15.000 Somebody would have to, like, look that up for me, but, but basically it's like internet speak for, you know, taking, you know, going through a person's like social media history and trying to find, you know, something to, um, discredit them, um, when they become a matter, when they, when they become the center of public.

00:45:32.000 The original meme was something to do with like a guy who created a comic or something that everyone loved trying to be a Nazi or something like that.

00:45:37.000 I can't remember exactly.

00:45:38.000 But but there was that remember the classic example, I think was who's that guy like asked a question in a debate that was wearing a sweater.

00:45:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:45.000 Ken bone.

00:45:46.000 Yeah, everyone was so enamored with him or whatever.

00:45:48.000 And then like, two days later, you know, everyone's like, digging up the fact that he had said some, you know, off color thing on Reddit once upon a time.

00:45:55.000 This is a the milkshake duck is from Ben Ward.

00:45:58.000 Yeah, at pixelated boat on Twitter.

00:46:04.000 I'm pretty bullish on some kind of national dissolution, peaceful divorce, national divorce, civil war, whatever.

00:46:11.000 You're bullish on civil war?

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 I don't mean to say that's something I want to happen.

00:46:16.000 Oh, you're saying that you're thinking the likelihood of it.

00:46:19.000 Yeah, I'm looking at it like, wow, that's gonna happen.

00:46:22.000 And it's crazy that there's been a lot of things that, you know, Jack Murphy likes to mention this.

00:46:27.000 It was last year in January, we had a conversation about a lot of things.

00:46:31.000 We predicted a bunch of stuff that was going to happen based on what we were seeing.

00:46:34.000 And I remember Jack hitting me up being like, dude, you need to go back and watch the episode we did.

00:46:37.000 It was like the first guest we ever had.

00:46:39.000 And he was like, we predicted a lot.

00:46:41.000 I was like, really?

00:46:41.000 And he's like, yeah, dude.

00:46:42.000 And I was like, wow.

00:46:43.000 So I see these things in media, and I think one of the things about it... There are a lot of people who tell me I'm crazy for bringing it up, but now it's starting to change.

00:46:54.000 Man, I thought it was so funny. 0.97

00:46:55.000 I'm not afraid to speak my mind and give my opinions, even if people think they're dumb. 0.80

00:46:58.000 Like when I was like, I didn't like Dune. 1.00

00:46:59.000 Everyone's like, you're insane!

00:47:01.000 Dune's the greatest movie! 0.99

00:47:02.000 I'm like, I don't care.

00:47:03.000 If I feel the way, I'll say it. 0.91

00:47:05.000 Back in the day, when I used to talk about Civil War, people would be like, you're nuts, it'll never happen.

00:47:10.000 Now I have people being like, so you've been talking about Civil War, like I did Russell Brand's podcast, and he's like, yeah, you said Civil War, and then I go through all the details.

00:47:17.000 We had a shooting in Pacific Northwest.

00:47:18.000 Let me show you this story.

00:47:20.000 So you can explain, so you can understand how I feel.

00:47:23.000 This is a tweet from Max Blumenthal, he's a leftist, and it's from a show Primo Radical.

00:47:27.000 He says, Noam Chomsky doubles down on his previous call for the state to segregate the unvaccinated from society. 0.77

00:47:34.000 Quote, how can we get food to them?

00:47:35.000 Well, that's actually their problem.

00:47:38.000 Let me play this video.

00:47:38.000 When you talk about folks having the freedom to, you know, separate if they don't want to abide by these vaccine mandates, What would that look like on a practical level?

00:47:48.000 Does that mean that folks need to stay home and have groceries delivered to them?

00:47:55.000 Does it mean separated communities of folks who are unvaccinated?

00:47:59.000 How do you think this would practically play out?

00:48:02.000 Same way as with people who say that I don't want to accept traffic rules. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Stupid argument. 1.00

00:48:10.000 It's an attack on my liberty to make me stop at a red light. 1.00

00:48:14.000 It's government overreach.

00:48:16.000 We don't want the state to have that power over my private life.

00:48:20.000 Well, such people have to be They should have the decency to remove themselves from the community.

00:48:30.000 If they refuse to do that, then measures have to be taken to safeguard the community from them.

00:48:37.000 Then comes the practical question that you ask, how can we get food to them?

00:48:43.000 Well, that's actually their problem.

00:48:46.000 Of course, if they really become destitute, then yes, you have to move in with some measure to secure their survival, just as you do with people in jail, for example.

00:49:00.000 So there you go.

00:49:01.000 This is Noam Chomsky.

00:49:02.000 He is a prominent figure on the left.

00:49:05.000 That's why they interview him.

00:49:07.000 And this had to be probably the most infuriating thing I've ever heard, but at least Noam Chomsky has become senile enough to admit what they want to do.

00:49:15.000 It's not about vaccines.

00:49:17.000 It's about mandate.

00:49:18.000 You saw him talk about traffic laws.

00:49:20.000 Yeah.

00:49:21.000 Yeah.

00:49:21.000 If someone blew a stop sign, are we going to put them in a camp and then deliver food to them?

00:49:26.000 No!

00:49:27.000 But think about what he's saying.

00:49:28.000 The same thing that happens if someone refuses to abide by traffic laws.

00:49:30.000 Yeah, they get a slap on the wrist, they get a $20 ticket, and they're told to go home.

00:49:35.000 So when I brought up vaccine mandates, I tweeted this.

00:49:38.000 I said, the left tries claiming that vaccine mandates have been around forever.

00:49:42.000 Weird.

00:49:43.000 I don't recall being carded for my medical information entering a bar before, but if you say so.

00:49:48.000 And then in come the leftists being like, all of these mandates for like smallpox.

00:49:54.000 Smallpox mandate.

00:49:55.000 Supreme Court ruling, 1905.

00:49:56.000 It was the Jacobson ruling, I believe it was called.

00:49:59.000 It was over a $5 fine.

00:50:02.000 The guy didn't want to pay the equivalent of $150 for not getting the vaccine.

00:50:06.000 They didn't say you weren't allowed to go to restaurants.

00:50:08.000 They didn't say to stay home.

00:50:10.000 They didn't say we were going to segregate you from society.

00:50:11.000 They didn't say we were going to cut you off from food.

00:50:14.000 They said, pay about $150 and you're done.

00:50:16.000 And he said, no.

00:50:17.000 Took him to court.

00:50:18.000 The court said, you know what, they can fine you over this.

00:50:21.000 And that was it. 0.98

00:50:22.000 And from that ruling we got, I think it was the Beck ruling in 1927, where they ended up sterilizing 70,000 women because they used the justification of government-mandated medical procedures to sterilize people the state deemed imbeciles. 0.94

00:50:36.000 So when you see Noam Chomsky say, segregate these people from society, and if they want food, that's their problem.

00:50:42.000 I hope you're paying attention to what prominent leftist figures are saying they want to do to your kids.

00:50:47.000 Then don't come to me and say, but Tim, I can't stand up for my rights.

00:50:51.000 My kids need food.

00:50:52.000 Congratulations.

00:50:53.000 When you don't, Noam Chomsky's gonna come and take it away.

00:50:56.000 And it's not just Chomsky, it's not just commentators, it's world leaders, like the Prime Minister of New Zealand that was asked directly, are you creating a two-class society of people who are vaxxed and unvaxxed with special privileges for the ones that are vaxxed?

00:51:11.000 She responded resoundingly, Yep.

00:51:13.000 And that's what they're literally doing in implementing as far as policies here.

00:51:18.000 And we have to be made aware of that.

00:51:20.000 So plagues have been a major thing in human history.

00:51:22.000 And there actually is this like extensive legal tradition of the state having extraordinary powers in the time of plague to do all kinds of things for quarantines and all this other stuff.

00:51:32.000 But that was back again when you're talking about smallpox pre vaccine that like, you know, people were like dying in the streets with open sores and like was incredibly contagious that was, you know, killing, you know, three quarters of entire towns, like the survivability rate of COVID is, you know, Extremely high, and they're treating this like it's, you know, again, smallpox pre-vaccine.

00:51:55.000 I mean, it never has justified these kinds of draconian measures.

00:51:59.000 Well, Ian brought up a really good point recently when he asked us about, you know, where the line is in terms of vaccine mandates.

00:52:06.000 And I was like, I don't think what we're seeing warrants the kind of mandates they're doing. 0.83

00:52:10.000 And then Ian was like, OK, so but if it's Ebola, then their rights be damned.

00:52:15.000 And I was like, it's a good point. 0.98

00:52:16.000 You're like airborne Ebola.

00:52:17.000 It's aerosolized and people's insides are liquefying and they're dying.

00:52:21.000 And then I was just like, you know, I think about it and I'm still like, then you should isolate yourself from everyone else if you don't want to take those risks.

00:52:31.000 Which brings me back to the original ruling that the left tries to cite.

00:52:35.000 And I want to say, I'll say two things.

00:52:36.000 One, they said if you don't get the vaccine, it is a $5 fine.

00:52:41.000 Just like if you blow a red light, they say it is a $50 ticket.

00:52:45.000 $5 back then was about $150 now, as I stated.

00:52:48.000 So for Noam Chomsky to say the same thing that happens.

00:52:51.000 The other thing they bring up is schools.

00:52:53.000 MMR vaccines.

00:52:54.000 Yeah.

00:52:54.000 If I want to go to McDonald's for a cheeseburger, I don't have to present my cards because of schools.

00:53:01.000 Still something completely different.

00:53:03.000 But my greater point was, if they're openly saying, if we have the power, we will do this to you, Then the only outcome I see, I see this.

00:53:13.000 I see two groups of people pointing the finger saying, live by my rules or else.

00:53:19.000 Technically, it's not true.

00:53:20.000 The right tends to be saying, leave me the F alone. 1.00

00:53:24.000 And the left says, shut your goddamn mouth. 1.00

00:53:26.000 We are going to lock you up if we have to. 1.00

00:53:29.000 There's also a lot of pushback against Chomsky, against his point of view here.

00:53:33.000 One person writes, glad I was able to learn a lot from reading and watching Chomsky and

00:53:38.000 glad I was smart enough to learn when it was time to stop listening to Chomsky.

00:53:44.000 Another person just chatted here also, Noam Chomsky is the Grinch who stole liberty and

00:53:48.000 I would have to agree with that person.

00:53:50.000 My entire life is...

00:53:51.000 It's insane.

00:53:53.000 People have been following Noam Chomsky around, transcribing his every utterance.

00:53:57.000 Like, literally, that's what they do with him.

00:53:59.000 And the only other figure in human history I can think of where they did this was Jesus Christ.

00:54:04.000 And he is not Jesus Christ. 0.94

00:54:05.000 I mean, he's said so many dumb and ill-considered things over the years.

00:54:08.000 I think he happens to have said some interesting things over the years, what he was saying about corporate media in the 80s. 0.95

00:54:12.000 was interesting. But he's spouted off on so many topics over the years that goes so far

00:54:19.000 beyond his quote unquote domain of linguistics or whatever it is, that the fact that we're still

00:54:24.000 listening to him at this point in time, never mind that he's saying things that are terrifyingly

00:54:28.000 authoritarian. But let's think about what he's saying. When he says we would need to take

00:54:36.000 measures to protect society from the people who won't get vaccinated, he is operating under the 0.96

00:54:41.000 assumption that he is society, that he controls it and that it's his.

00:54:47.000 It's not true.

00:54:48.000 So here's what I posted.

00:54:49.000 When he said, the food, actually, that's their problem.

00:54:51.000 No, no, actually, that's your problem.

00:54:53.000 Farmers support Trump, 85 to 12.

00:54:56.000 Oh boy.

00:54:57.000 Truckers support Trump, 10 to 1.

00:55:00.000 So if you think you're going to isolate these people from society, and then you will be trying to be the nice person to figure out how to feed them, you're sorely mistaken.

00:55:08.000 You'll isolate the people who bring the food to your city, and then they'll give you the finger and you'll say, but wait, I'm hungry.

00:55:08.000 Yeah.

00:55:13.000 Let's not sugarcoat it.

00:55:14.000 He's calling for camps.

00:55:15.000 He's calling for people to be relocated outside of society, outside of their homes, put into special facilities where they are concentrated.

00:55:24.000 We would ensure their survivability much like jail.

00:55:27.000 Australia is already building camps for 2020 and 2022.

00:55:32.000 Building even more on top of that so this is not even in ... the realm of conspiracies this is not only just being ... talked about by Chomsky this is being activated in parts of ... the world right now where they have camps for people who ... don't comply the CDC director just came out today and said.

00:55:48.000 If you're using the word re-educate unironically, I mean, you're the bad person here.

00:55:53.000 provide counseling for them. She said specifically quote there's a plan should

00:55:58.000 these people not want to be vaxxed. What's the plan? What's the exact details?

00:56:03.000 She didn't really get into all that. If you're using the word re-educate unironically I mean you you

00:56:07.000 you're the bad person. You see that New Zealand Prime Minister lady? Yeah I saw that. 1.00

00:56:12.000 When she was asked by a reporter, are you going to be creating two classes of people?

00:56:16.000 That's exactly what we're doing.

00:56:16.000 Yes.

00:56:18.000 Yes.

00:56:19.000 I think it's cool.

00:56:21.000 They're not even hiding it.

00:56:22.000 They're so emboldened by the mainstream media cheering them up and blowing smoke up their tuchuses.

00:56:27.000 Family friendly show.

00:56:28.000 I would have said something else.

00:56:29.000 Let's also not forget that they're shifting the definition of what's vax now.

00:56:32.000 Yeah.

00:56:33.000 Now all of a sudden it's going to include, you know, you don't have your seventh booster for the, you know, Omicron.

00:56:39.000 Just like they shifted the definition for herd immunity as well.

00:56:42.000 They slowly and surely destroyed the language. 0.99

00:56:44.000 University of Denver flu vaccine mandate.

00:56:47.000 Mm hmm.

00:56:48.000 You know, I'm just so astounded that we as a species can make so many movies, books, shorts about apocalyptic futures and nightmare dystopias, and right now we're living in one, and people are like, this is fine.

00:57:04.000 Seeing that story about Noam Chomsky, and then seeing people, high-profile blue checkmarks, agreeing with him.

00:57:10.000 You realize who the Nazis would have been.

00:57:13.000 Well, there's also something here which is just that our culture is so empty and devoid of meaning here.

00:57:20.000 Now, look, I'm just speaking as a Christian.

00:57:22.000 I live for things other than what my government does on a day-to-day business, on a day-to-day

00:57:29.000 basis.

00:57:31.000 But the fact that these people are, the number one thing that they're afraid of is just dying

00:57:35.000 constantly.

00:57:36.000 You know what?

00:57:37.000 I'm not afraid of dying.

00:57:38.000 I'm officially not afraid of dying for something I believe in.

00:57:41.000 And once upon a time, that was the dominant attitude in America.

00:57:44.000 People had things they were willing to die for.

00:57:46.000 You know, that's a really interesting thing.

00:57:48.000 You maybe just realized something.

00:57:49.000 I'm not afraid of dying.

00:57:51.000 I'm afraid of not living.

00:57:52.000 So for me, when they say things like, you have to live in a cubicle, lockdown, you can't go outside, people would rather not live, but be alive.

00:58:02.000 I'm the other way around.

00:58:03.000 I would rather risk my life in order to live.

00:58:06.000 Right.

00:58:07.000 Well, look, they're going to get to live in Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse or whatever it is.

00:58:12.000 VR goggles, they bolt to your head.

00:58:14.000 In their beautiful pod.

00:58:16.000 That's the classic Huxley-Orwell distinction, right?

00:58:18.000 enter the matrix.

00:58:19.000 You know?

00:58:20.000 It's, it's...

00:58:21.000 So Omar...

00:58:22.000 Well, but that's the classic Huxley-Orwell distinction, right?

00:58:24.000 Yeah.

00:58:25.000 I mean, like, you know, everyone always puts Orwell, but, you know, the reality is Huxley

00:58:27.000 probably got it more right than Orwell, you know?

00:58:29.000 We're all gonna sleepwalk into this because it seems like the fun thing to do.

00:58:33.000 I actually think Luke got it more right.

00:58:36.000 Or the other one?

00:58:38.000 The shirt with all of the dystopian novels and we're in between all of them.

00:58:43.000 Because it is government overreach, but it is the pleasureification.

00:58:47.000 It also is the censorship like Fahrenheit.

00:58:49.000 It also is...

00:58:51.000 V for Vendetta!

00:58:53.000 That's the funniest part.

00:58:54.000 Very accurately, there's so many things in those movies that are playing out in true life.

00:59:00.000 It's kind of off-stunning.

00:59:02.000 Why are we so good at predicting all of this, but so terrible at reacting to any of it?

00:59:06.000 And why do people cheer on the people fighting against the big tyrannical governments and corporatists, but yet, in the real world, they're cheering them on?

00:59:14.000 Like Julian Assange, but then Trump was like, I don't know who Julian Assange is.

00:59:18.000 This is my favorite point to make about the original Star Wars, A New Hope.

00:59:22.000 I always ask people like, are you a fan of Star Wars?

00:59:24.000 Yeah, sure.

00:59:24.000 You like A New Hope?

00:59:26.000 The original one?

00:59:27.000 Yeah.

00:59:27.000 The original trilogy, yeah.

00:59:28.000 You think a story about a bunch of religious zealots who come from a desert, take a cargo plane and blow up a military base is a cool story?

00:59:35.000 I mean, I guess, but I was also raised Mormon.

00:59:41.000 So my former colleague Jonathan Last is the guy that wrote the famous essay about how the Empire were actually the good guys, right?

00:59:49.000 That got a lot of traction back in the day.

00:59:51.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally see where you're coming from with that.

00:59:54.000 I'd love to do a series of short films, villains as the good guys.

00:59:58.000 So we could do a ton of different movies and do like a five-minute short film where it just breaks down, does like a quick, you know, overview of the bad guy's actually the good guy.

01:00:05.000 Darth is like, I tried for so long on you, Luke.

01:00:08.000 I tried.

01:00:09.000 Just like that Karate Kid video on YouTube that describes Karate Kid but in a totally different light and perspective.

01:00:14.000 And they made a show about it.

01:00:14.000 Right, right.

01:00:15.000 Yeah.

01:00:16.000 And Cobra Kai, basically.

01:00:17.000 But, you know, Darth Vader, he's a disabled veteran, bro. 1.00

01:00:20.000 There you go.

01:00:21.000 He's a war hero of the Clone Wars.

01:00:22.000 If you joke about it enough, it just may come true.

01:00:25.000 There was a galactic civil war and he lost his limbs fighting against religious zealots to save, you know, government and shambles.

01:00:32.000 Now, of course, we know the Emperor was secretly fomenting all of this stuff.

01:00:35.000 That's besides the point.

01:00:37.000 You know, Darth wasn't in on it.

01:00:39.000 Well, Mark asked the question why we're so good at like coming up with these stories, but we're so bad at reacting to them.

01:00:45.000 And I think that is because people who create art have a much deeper understanding of human nature than the people who make our policies.

01:00:51.000 Because looking at the way Democrats are trying to handle this pandemic, they're assuming that people are going to go along with them if they force them to do it.

01:01:00.000 Like, have you ever met an American?

01:01:02.000 That is not a good way to get an American to do anything. 0.95

01:01:05.000 Look at these protests in New York.

01:01:07.000 Have you seen these crossing the bridge chanting, let's go Brandon?

01:01:10.000 Exactly.

01:01:11.000 And the day before that, the Kyrie Irving protest outside of the Barclays Center where they stormed in to try to get into the Barclays Center.

01:01:18.000 And they pretty much had a lot of people out there all chanting, let Kyrie play.

01:01:25.000 I'm glad the fight in this country isn't dead, but having said that, I don't know, maybe this is my age and stature talking, as it were, but I have a feeling that even 25 years ago, so much of what we're seeing would have been a non-starter.

01:01:39.000 And not just because of the technological stuff that enables this, but simply because the cultural attitudes were so much stronger in terms of And people were stronger, healthier, happier, and had more families.

01:01:50.000 And now we have a lot less of that.

01:01:52.000 But then all of the mainstream stuff would have been put on ABC, and it would have been fact.

01:01:57.000 We would have thought, oh, millions of people have been this and that.

01:02:00.000 Yeah, I know, he's right.

01:02:02.000 Vietnam War.

01:02:02.000 I mean, there was a huge pushback against that.

01:02:06.000 They realized the mistake they made by putting cameras there so they didn't do it for the first Iraq War.

01:02:10.000 They decided not to show the doors getting kicked in.

01:02:12.000 In the first Iraq war in the 90s?

01:02:13.000 in the 90s? Yeah, they showed like a news reporter sitting on a tank driving

01:02:16.000 through the desert, but they didn't show like kids getting mowed down in their

01:02:19.000 houses and stuff as the soldiers were kicking the doors in and white

01:02:22.000 phosphorus. There was an age of muckraking journalism that did make a

01:02:26.000 big impact, but it's hard to kind of weigh these things.

01:02:29.000 It's hard to really assess them by not living through them and only having the reports from what happened of the reports, not the actual events.

01:02:39.000 So it's hard to say exactly what was the lynch point, if it was the media, if not.

01:02:44.000 And I think it's impossible to answer those questions.

01:02:46.000 Can I ask you, Mark, how old you are?

01:02:49.000 I'm 45.

01:02:49.000 45, alright, so you're not old enough.

01:02:51.000 I'm thinking, well, I guess you are a Gen Xer, right?

01:02:53.000 Yeah.

01:02:53.000 Ian, you're barely a Gen Xer, right?

01:02:55.000 42, yeah, last year.

01:02:56.000 I was watching the music video for Gotta Get Away by The Offspring.

01:03:00.000 You familiar with the...?

01:03:02.000 My high school band opened for them.

01:03:04.000 For The Offspring?

01:03:04.000 Oh, cool!

01:03:05.000 No way, for real?

01:03:05.000 For real.

01:03:06.000 Wow, cool!

01:03:07.000 What's your band called?

01:03:09.000 A really crappy high school band no one's ever heard of.

01:03:11.000 What year did they open?

01:03:13.000 This was literally like a month before Smash came out.

01:03:17.000 This would have been like 1993 at the Madrona Hill Winery, which is a venue in Portland that no longer exists.

01:03:23.000 Which, by the way, it's a really bad idea to have underage bands playing at a winery.

01:03:26.000 Yeah, it is.

01:03:27.000 Throw it out there.

01:03:28.000 So the Offspring story, I was reading about it.

01:03:30.000 So when I was younger, they were like my favorite band when I was like a little kid learning how to play guitar.

01:03:35.000 And now they're just amazing corporate shills.

01:03:39.000 They fired their drummer because he couldn't get vaccinated because he has Guillain-Barre syndrome.

01:03:43.000 And so I was just like reading about, you know, their album Ignition sold, I think, 15,000 copies when it first came out.

01:03:51.000 I think it was Epitaph.

01:03:52.000 And then when Smash came out, it just took the country by storm.

01:03:56.000 I think it might still be like the biggest selling record to ever come out in an independent record label.

01:04:00.000 Yes, that's fact.

01:04:01.000 That's true.

01:04:02.000 And so these guys were like true punk rock underdogs.

01:04:06.000 They weren't really going to go anywhere.

01:04:07.000 And then all of a sudden it was mainstream.

01:04:09.000 I'm watching this music video for Gotta Get Away, which was I think it was their third single off of Smash, which is, as you mentioned, the biggest independent release of all time.

01:04:18.000 And I see these like young people moshing and you know, just raging out and like this teenage angst from Gen X and

01:04:27.000 now Gen X have become such like pro establishment shills rage on behalf of the machine. 0.50

01:04:33.000 They're just totally in favor of the machine.

01:04:35.000 Bad religion totally in favor of the machine.

01:04:37.000 Tom Morello is doing a newsletter for the New York Times right now.

01:04:40.000 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

01:04:42.000 He has done one of those masterclass things. 1.00

01:04:45.000 I mean, he is the poster boy for selling ass. 0.99

01:04:50.000 So you're a little bit young, I guess, though, but like, what happened, man? 0.99

01:04:54.000 I mean, you were old enough to see Smash come out.

01:04:56.000 You played... What happened to this generation? 0.91

01:04:58.000 How did they go from being, like... What you gotta understand about a punk album Yeah.

01:05:04.000 That this music was not popular. 0.66

01:05:05.000 It was not mainstream trash. 0.59

01:05:07.000 And then all of a sudden a million albums are sold or whatever. 0.89

01:05:10.000 It's like it's smashing records.

01:05:11.000 And all of a sudden now it is becoming mainstream.

01:05:14.000 I guess these people, the, the offspring have a song on their first album.

01:05:18.000 Whose name I can't say because it's a crime to say I'm not kidding.

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 They removed it eventually.

01:05:22.000 It's no longer the only way you can listen to it on YouTube by

01:05:25.000 finding the full album version.

01:05:27.000 And then it's the last song on the album.

01:05:29.000 We cannot say the name of the song.

01:05:31.000 It is a crime to say because it involves the president.

01:05:35.000 They get rid of it eventually.

01:05:37.000 So it's almost like these guys are anti-establishment up until someone slides the money under their door.

01:05:42.000 And then all of a sudden they're willing to pholate the state.

01:05:45.000 So I'm kind of a music journalist and I could go off forever on the whole, you know, alternative indie thing and like what happened specifically there.

01:05:52.000 But just to go back to sort of the broader cultural thing, there's this humorist named Joe Quinan and he wrote this book that's basically a Jeremiad against the Baby Boomers, of which he is one.

01:06:03.000 And there's this great line in there about the baby boomers.

01:06:05.000 He says, they were not the first generation to sell out, but they were the first generation to sell out and then insist they hadn't.

01:06:12.000 And I think that's largely true of like every successive generation since then.

01:06:17.000 I think the ones that have been subject to this onslaught of popular culture and mass media It's amazing.

01:06:23.000 It's amazing to me listening to a couple of the songs the Offspring put out.

01:06:26.000 pressure and be kind of like a true sort of like American, you know, you rugged individualist

01:06:34.000 in that environment.

01:06:35.000 It's amazing.

01:06:36.000 It's amazing to me listening to a couple of the songs the offspring put out Americana.

01:06:40.000 They had Why Don't You Get a Job literally a song about getting a job because you're 0.94

01:06:44.000 a lazy bum who won't pay the bills. 1.00

01:06:46.000 Then they had the song, I can't remember which album this was, I don't think it was, it might have been a Conspiracy One, I'm not sure, Hit That, which is about hookup culture and how our country's basically in trouble because people are just going around partying and hooking up and not caring about having kids and a family.

01:06:59.000 And I'm like, talk about a conservative punk rock band.

01:07:02.000 But now where they're at, it's like, you put the money in their hands, rage against the machine quickly, rage is on behalf of that machine in two seconds.

01:07:09.000 Well, the Rage Against the Machine, though, let's be clear, that always pissed me off, right?

01:07:15.000 Their first record came out on, like, Sony in Columbia, and they're all talking about, like, marks in the liner notes and all of that.

01:07:21.000 They were never raging against the machine.

01:07:24.000 This is a true story.

01:07:25.000 At the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Prophets of Rage were doing one of their, which was Tom Merrill's side project with Chuck D. They were doing some appearance at some protest or whatever.

01:07:39.000 And I literally, like, leaped over the bushes and, like, tracked down Tom Morello.

01:07:42.000 And I asked him, finally, after, like, 20 years, I said, does the irony of getting, you know, large crowds to shout, F you, I won't do what you tell me, you know, in unison over and over again, did that ever, like, occur to you?

01:07:56.000 Does it ever bother you?

01:07:58.000 And literally, he said something, like, to me, like, he had never even thought of it.

01:08:02.000 And like that's the issue in a nutshell like these people think they're rebelling when they're not they're literally doing the opposite They're literally encouraging people to march in lockstep and somehow telling themselves that they're anti-establishment at the same time That cognitive dissonance is killing us.

01:08:18.000 Yeah, that's a very good point.

01:08:20.000 And I think we were at that protest 2016 at the Cleveland was the DNC or RNC and R&C.

01:08:26.000 At least I remember talking to Chuck D there specifically about relating issues, but you made a very good point.

01:08:33.000 You know, there's nothing better that could be ever promoted is for individualism, people to think for themselves and to just be critical thinkers.

01:08:42.000 And a lot of these people are like, cheer for me, clap for me.

01:08:45.000 And you just got to love multimillion dollar communists.

01:08:48.000 You don't have to be smart to be a musician.

01:08:50.000 That was one thing in high school was like, if you're not smart, be a musician, pretty much.

01:08:54.000 I was at VidCon a few years ago, the big YouTube convention, and I saw some little kids.

01:09:00.000 And as I'm walking past, one kid goes, he's got to be like 10 years old.

01:09:04.000 He goes, you have 80 followers?

01:09:06.000 How did you get so many followers?

01:09:08.000 And then some other kids like, dude, I have 93 on Instagram.

01:09:12.000 And I'm like, these kids are going to be narcissists.

01:09:16.000 Entrepreneurs, but narcissists. 0.95

01:09:17.000 It's all fake. 0.95

01:09:18.000 It's all fake.

01:09:19.000 Of course, of course.

01:09:19.000 I want to hear what you think guys think about the internet and how it changed the music industry completely like we

01:09:24.000 had Nirvana you know didn't just scream it out and like all fake then

01:09:27.000 the internet came out and It is kind of all so I mean the underground music scene isn't

01:09:33.000 fake We got it when you get together with your friends, of

01:09:35.000 course, of course smash When I was reading about the offspring, I was genuinely

01:09:39.000 surprised by their history from they made an album that I mean the song

01:09:44.000 Tehran is a is a great song I love that song.

01:09:48.000 Are you familiar with that at all?

01:09:49.000 Yeah.

01:09:50.000 The original?

01:09:51.000 It's just a good song, whether or not you like the message.

01:09:54.000 Then they had Ignition come out, and they weren't selling.

01:09:57.000 They were nobodies, the music wasn't popular.

01:09:58.000 Imagine, you know, just like writing music you know, people, it's not mainstream, and then all of a sudden it becomes mainstream.

01:10:05.000 That right there is where I'm like, wow, that's the coolest thing ever.

01:10:09.000 And then to see how they instantly became just corporate machine.

01:10:12.000 I'm just like, wow, that like just guts the whole idea.

01:10:16.000 You know, all of a sudden they're like, Hey, we made it.

01:10:17.000 We got to preserve this power we've made and not be true to ourselves.

01:10:21.000 Yeah, well, what happened in the early 90s there was a real anomaly culturally, and I think that's what made it so impactful, though, in the sense that there was this very much a DIY corporate suspicion culture in, you know, Gen X. You know, punk rock was all about rebelling against that in an actually sincere way, you know, and there were people like Ian McKay and other things like that that were actually committed to that.

01:10:47.000 You know, and I remember when Sonic Youth signed to Geffen, there was like a lot of hand wringing among people like, you know, is this a thing that they are allowed to do because they're such beacons of integrity?

01:10:57.000 And of course, Sonic Youth were like, yeah, we need health insurance.

01:11:01.000 You know, we're like old and have a family now.

01:11:03.000 And like, you could be like somewhat sympathetic to that.

01:11:05.000 But it was also true that the music industry was a victim of itself in terms of they had You know, and I think they're sort of parallels to like what's going on today in a lot of ways where they had like force-fed so much of the same crap to people.

01:11:18.000 Like when I was growing up in the late 80s and you turn on the radio, you had two choices, Led Zeppelin or Whitney Houston.

01:11:24.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 And that was like it.

01:11:26.000 And for people were desperate for some other thing.

01:11:29.000 And then when like Nirvana and some of these other things started to like really break through, the music industry didn't know what to do with themselves.

01:11:35.000 They were just throwing money at bands, hoping that something would stick.

01:11:39.000 And as a result, what happened was is you got all of these, you know, bands that, you know, never in a million years, like who on earth would sign Dinosaur Jr.

01:11:47.000 to a major label record deal?

01:11:51.000 But, you know, the fact that a band like Dinosaur Jr.

01:11:53.000 actually got, you know, $250,000 to record an album meant that they were able to do something great they never would have been able to do.

01:11:59.000 So it was actually that marriage of sort of corporate, you know, money combined with what that allowed them to do in terms of Well, at least back in the day before you had plug-ins and laptops and recording technology.

01:12:12.000 Sorry, I'm going off on a tangent here.

01:12:14.000 You know, you'd actually matter whether you got into an expensive studio with trained recording engineers and things like that.

01:12:19.000 So, it was actually a confluence of establishment and the underground that actually made things good.

01:12:27.000 Weirdly enough.

01:12:28.000 And that was, I think, for a long time, kind of a strength where there were aspects of American culture where, you know, sort of the trained, well-resourced establishment would meet up with originality.

01:12:38.000 And that was American innovation.

01:12:40.000 And we used to do, you know, obviously there were always corporate sellouts, but we used to see those kinds of leaps regularly.

01:12:46.000 where all of a sudden the establishment would catch wind with something that was going on

01:12:50.000 that was new and original, exciting, and those things would marry up. And we're not seeing that

01:12:54.000 anymore. In fact, what we're seeing right now with the media establishment, they should be

01:12:59.000 figuring out what the next thing is, but they're still clinging to the cable news business model.

01:13:02.000 You know?

01:13:03.000 The issue, I suppose, is when the left started to... There's a lot of things that happened in

01:13:08.000 the culture war that resulted in the left becoming morally authoritarian. But because

01:13:14.000 we've always kind of been a culture of, hey, racism is bad, sexism is bad,

01:13:18.000 we should respect each other, respect civil liberties.

01:13:21.000 When the moral authoritarians adopted those stances, advertisers just went, look, nobody wants to be a racist, so we'll just put money behind whatever they say, and we'll not put money behind anything they complain about.

01:13:32.000 It's like the Dave Chappelle thing.

01:13:34.000 Yeah.

01:13:35.000 Why should anyone cancel Dave Chappelle from a festival?

01:13:37.000 Because they're scared of the activists showing up and making them look bad and them losing money.

01:13:42.000 Right.

01:13:42.000 So what should have happened, if you look at, at least when I was growing up, the moral

01:13:47.000 authoritarian right, the religious, and many of the Democrats, were not cool.

01:13:51.000 So nobody cared.

01:13:52.000 It was fun to be anti-establishment, to rage against the machine, and that's what was making

01:13:56.000 money.

01:13:57.000 So they said, now, the big companies are like, we're going to get a bunch of protesters,

01:14:04.000 and we're going to lose money because they're unwilling to compromise.

01:14:07.000 There you go.

01:14:08.000 Then you lose it.

01:14:09.000 Yeah.

01:14:09.000 So I think the interesting thing is we're gonna start seeing... We are seeing this.

01:14:13.000 Babylon Bee.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 Absurdly funny.

01:14:16.000 And predict the future.

01:14:17.000 Apparently Seth's psychic.

01:14:19.000 Prophecy fulfilled.

01:14:21.000 They do a really good job of poking so much fun at these things actually just end up happening.

01:14:25.000 And it's done.

01:14:27.000 They've been doing a lot better than the onion has because when you're scared to be offensive, you don't, you're not

01:14:32.000 funny.

01:14:32.000 So what I think we'll start seeing is now people who don't care about being offensive, which tend to be the cultural

01:14:37.000 right, whatever right wing actually means at this point.

01:14:40.000 They're going to make shows.

01:14:41.000 They're going to make movies.

01:14:42.000 They're going to do comedy specials.

01:14:43.000 Everyone's going to love it.

01:14:44.000 I think the left is shutting down their own industry by being scared to take risks and actually challenge I think the battle on being thing makes me very nervous. 0.92

01:14:53.000 When, when you, they'll do stories, for instance, like just ridiculous, ridiculous, like Joe Biden makes, declares it illegal to be a man. 0.90

01:15:01.000 And then it'll be like, ah, ha ha. 0.94

01:15:02.000 So, and then two months later, Joe Biden declares it illegal.

01:15:06.000 And it's like, they see that and they're like, oh, okay.

01:15:09.000 People didn't say no to it.

01:15:10.000 That's a green light.

01:15:11.000 Let's go.

01:15:12.000 So it's like an authoritarian gateway.

01:15:14.000 If you're not careful, satire can be.

01:15:17.000 I don't know.

01:15:18.000 I disagree.

01:15:19.000 I think it's just making fun of the absolute ridiculousness of our current society.

01:15:24.000 One of the things that I just retweeted from the Babylon Bee is their latest headline saying, quote, Fauci hopes his experiments on puppies will distract everyone from experiments he performed on humanity for the past 18 months.

01:15:36.000 So it's social commentary to the highest level of using comedy as a way to make people laugh at the absurdity of reality.

01:15:46.000 And, you know, there are some people bowing down, there are some people giving up, but there still is a need, a hunger, for those real, honest, real discussions.

01:15:55.000 And very interestingly, Netflix just launched a new show called Inside Job, and it was number one trending, and I just watched one episode of it, and my jaw dropped to the floor.

01:16:05.000 I was like, no freaking way!

01:16:07.000 I mean, they brought up issues that we would say here, automatically cut.

01:16:11.000 And they brought up all the conspiracies that ever ... existed in a brilliant funny way from Bilderberg and even ... deeper level stuff that you wouldn't even imagine so ... they're just released a very spicy cartoon show that that ... goes into how corporations are controlling the world.

01:16:30.000 I still haven't made up my mind on it.

01:16:32.000 It's funny, but it also is very deep.

01:16:35.000 I still haven't watched all the episodes.

01:16:36.000 I'm in the process of watching it, but for them to release that on the backdrop of Chappelle might be sending a message.

01:16:42.000 I might be reading into too much of it.

01:16:45.000 There's a lot of things I'm critical of Netflix about.

01:16:47.000 But I think there's a reason this show and other shows are doing so well and have such a loving, caring audience that are even here when they're not even prompted to be here, unlike CNN.

01:16:58.000 CNN has everything going for them.

01:17:00.000 We don't.

01:17:01.000 And I'll tell you why.

01:17:03.000 So, a moment ago, we talked about civil war.

01:17:06.000 Some people might say that's crazy.

01:17:08.000 Fine.

01:17:09.000 If you think it's crazy, by all means, you can think whatever you want. 0.97

01:17:11.000 I must be crazy. 0.93

01:17:12.000 I don't care.

01:17:13.000 On major networks, will they talk about this?

01:17:15.000 Probably not.

01:17:16.000 Some of them, maybe.

01:17:17.000 We recently saw MSNBC actually run a segment that said, could we be facing a second American civil war?

01:17:22.000 Now, this is a conversation that's been in mainstream newspapers for years.

01:17:27.000 But see, on this show, we're willing to talk about this, from Fox News.

01:17:31.000 Arrest Fauci trends on Twitter as doctor faces criticism for controversial virus research testing on dogs.

01:17:37.000 I think there's only one cable TV show that would actually get more serious than us.

01:17:43.000 And do you know who that is?

01:17:43.000 Would you have a guess?

01:17:44.000 One cable TV show?

01:17:45.000 Brad Gottfeld.

01:17:47.000 He's pretty good, but no.

01:17:48.000 That's kind of a joke.

01:17:49.000 Tucker Carlson?

01:17:49.000 Tucker Carlson.

01:17:50.000 Tucker Carlson goes a lot further than I would, you know, on a lot of these issues.

01:17:55.000 So when we talk about Fauci and people wanting him to be arrested and stuff, oh, we'll talk about these ideas.

01:18:00.000 We'll talk about the potential conflict of civil war.

01:18:02.000 Tucker goes All in on all of it.

01:18:05.000 So that's why I think obviously his ratings are so high.

01:18:08.000 And then why is it that all these other networks' ratings are in the garbage?

01:18:11.000 Because it's fake.

01:18:12.000 And everyone knows it's fake.

01:18:13.000 And they're not talking about real things.

01:18:15.000 You go outside.

01:18:16.000 There's no food on the shelves at your store.

01:18:18.000 You're asking yourself, what's going on?

01:18:20.000 You turn on CNN.

01:18:22.000 Orange man bad. 0.78

01:18:22.000 Nothing. 0.78

01:18:23.000 You turn on MSNBC, nothing.

01:18:25.000 Orange man bad. 0.78

01:18:25.000 You turn on Fox and they're like, inflation's bad, it's Biden's fault. 0.78

01:18:28.000 Or worse, and you open up the Washington Post and it's lower your expectations.

01:18:32.000 Right.

01:18:33.000 Why would I expect there to be pasta and frozen vegetables in my local grocery store?

01:18:36.000 Both of which they've been like running low on forever now.

01:18:39.000 Yeah.

01:18:40.000 Yeah, it's really something.

01:18:42.000 Well, let's talk about this arrest Fauci thing because I don't know if Fauci should be arrested over this.

01:18:49.000 There's a story going around where it shows two dogs, they're beagles, and their heads are secured in a box full of infected sand flies and the dogs had their vocal cords slit so they couldn't bark or whimper as their faces were devoured by ravenous insects.

01:19:04.000 Now, a lot of people are saying you should be arrested for it, and I think there's a couple things that are good here.

01:19:10.000 People are starting to wake up to the kind of research being done for their benefit, for their privileges.

01:19:15.000 A lot of this research is unnecessary and insane, and people are asking, like, why would you do that?

01:19:19.000 We know the flies would devour the face of the dog and put it in agony.

01:19:24.000 But I think a lot of people need to realize the benefits, the wonderful technology, the medicines you have, it's because we experiment on animals, sometimes dogs.

01:19:33.000 Yeah, and actually specifically with sandflies.

01:19:35.000 I don't know exactly what they were researching with sandflies, but with sandflies, they're major carriers of parasitic diseases, which are one of the few things that we really have terrible treatments for.

01:19:44.000 Like there's this disease called Leishmaniasis.

01:19:46.000 It's very prominent in Central and South America that does like Horrible things to people like it literally like rots your face from the inside out And because it primarily affects poor people in these areas It's only government testing that there's really an incentive to find any sort of cure because the pharmaceutical companies aren't in it because there's no you know financial incentive for it, so

01:20:07.000 Yeah, I mean, actually, I don't know exactly what they were doing with the sandflies, but I can see where doing, you know, research on parasitic diseases for all the havoc it wreaks, you know, testing on dogs might be necessary.

01:20:16.000 A good friend of mine from high school is a, is a, is a biology professor at UT Austin.

01:20:25.000 And, you know, he talked all about biology.

01:20:28.000 What is he?

01:20:29.000 Neurology professor.

01:20:31.000 And you know, he would tell me all the stories he had to do and the stories of all the experiments

01:20:35.000 he had to do in monkeys and stuff.

01:20:36.000 I mean, it's just absolutely necessary for the advancement of humanity if you care about

01:20:41.000 that sort of thing.

01:20:42.000 Now, as for lying to Congress, that's something that maybe we should talk about.

01:20:47.000 This reminds me of Andrew Cuomo, how they went after him for the girl with him diddling

01:20:52.000 with the girls as opposed to sending all those old people into nursing homes. 1.00

01:20:55.000 And it's like it evokes the emotional hashtag trending thing, but like what he really should

01:21:00.000 be busted for his lying to Congress.

01:21:01.000 Well if it's what you said it was there at least should be a debate but we shouldn't be giving him the benefit of the doubt because he doesn't deserve any of it because he's been lying through his teeth about so many things and at least we deserve answers to really find out what was the true cause and the true reason of these studies.

01:21:16.000 I mean there's there's even reports of Fauci funded experiments that literally were used to destroy portions of monkeys brain that would magnify terror so they could scare the crap out of them and study fear.

01:21:29.000 So there's there's so many different... I wonder why there would be Yes.

01:21:31.000 What are they trying to learn about primate fear?

01:21:34.000 Exactly.

01:21:34.000 And again, apes are 97% identical to human DNA.

01:21:41.000 There's a lot of weird stuff happening, and there should be a lot more transparency, a lot more accountability, because we have to understand, there's some beauty products that are tested in absolutely cruel and inhumane ways.

01:21:53.000 Torture animals.

01:21:55.000 We can't even describe what happens here.

01:21:56.000 The show would get taken down immediately.

01:21:58.000 All for beauty products like that. There should be a line.

01:22:01.000 There should be a discussion. There should be more information

01:22:04.000 We don't have any of that. We have dr Fauci financing essentially the torturing of puppies why he

01:22:08.000 did it at this point of view We don't know but I'm willing to suspect something far more

01:22:13.000 sinister something far more worse based on his prior behavior

01:22:15.000 For my own personal perspective, I think Fauci had a mustache 0.99

01:22:19.000 He shaved it off since then but back then he was twirling it saying we're gonna kill these dogs 0.97

01:22:27.000 I could see it. 0.97

01:22:28.000 That was it.

01:22:29.000 That was the only reason.

01:22:30.000 At this point, maybe.

01:22:31.000 Let's be honest.

01:22:33.000 Let's be real.

01:22:34.000 Like, we don't know.

01:22:35.000 That's not a fact.

01:22:36.000 We don't have a smoking gun here, but I'm not willing to exclude that out of our current reality with the way that he's been treating humanity.

01:22:42.000 But it is insane that we, you know, we've got, he's gotten far more attention for the testing on dogs than the lie to Congress about funding research at the Wuhan facility that likely caused the pandemic.

01:22:53.000 I took the point where the Stephanopoulos and he was denying that he ever did it, that he ever said that they were doing game, that they ever did gain a function.

01:23:00.000 And then they were like, let's play a clip from Ram Paul, where he comes at you and they give this three or four second clip of Ram Paul.

01:23:06.000 And then George Stephanopoulos just lofting softballs over to him saying, and by the way, our experts confirmed you didn't do gain of Gain-of-function, right?

01:23:14.000 And Fauci's like, yeah, of course, we didn't do gain-of-function.

01:23:16.000 Insane!

01:23:18.000 Gain-of-function research would be the manipulation of viruses to make them more infectious to human-type cells, correct?

01:23:25.000 That is correct.

01:23:26.000 And you didn't do that.

01:23:27.000 No, we only took cells and viruses and modified them so that they would be more infectious to humans.

01:23:33.000 We didn't do gain-of-function as well. 1.00

01:23:35.000 And look how stupid Rand Paul is. 1.00

01:23:37.000 Let's all focus on that. 1.00

01:23:38.000 Well, weren't they recently rewriting the CDC's website or whatever to redefine gain of function or whatever?

01:23:45.000 I mean, it's insane.

01:23:46.000 And the thing is, he didn't just lie about this.

01:23:48.000 He got indignant.

01:23:50.000 Yeah.

01:23:50.000 Good job, Rand, by the way.

01:23:52.000 And upset.

01:23:52.000 And it's just...

01:23:55.000 Dude, Rand Paul's relentless.

01:23:56.000 And not just that, this is connected to this larger narrative.

01:23:58.000 Remember, Facebook banned all discussion of the lab leak because it was quote-unquote misinformation for a year that was all covering up this.

01:24:07.000 Our culture has a rot at the core and there are corrupt people like Fauci who, let me just explain to you the level of insanity we're dealing with when Rand Paul holds up the study That says, chimeric virus creation to increase infectivity on humans.

01:24:25.000 Definition of gain of function.

01:24:27.000 Fauci, this study says, funded by the NIH.

01:24:30.000 And Fauci goes, we did not fund it!

01:24:32.000 It's like, literally holding the evidence!

01:24:36.000 And then what do you get from the establishment and from the left and from MSNBC?

01:24:39.000 It's not true.

01:24:39.000 Ignore it.

01:24:40.000 That's the insanity.

01:24:41.000 Let's also mention here again that Senator Rand Paul is a medical doctor.

01:24:45.000 Doctor Senator Rand Paul.

01:24:47.000 So it's not like he doesn't have some clue what he's talking about here when he looks at a research paper.

01:24:47.000 Yes.

01:24:52.000 He's an actual trained medical doctor.

01:24:54.000 And then the left goes, he's an ophthalmologist who hasn't practiced in years.

01:24:58.000 Dr. Fauci is an infectious disease expert.

01:25:02.000 Who hasn't practiced in three decades!

01:25:05.000 Rand Paul literally volunteers his time and goes down to places like Haiti and gives free surgeries to people who can't afford it.

01:25:12.000 So he's been practicing medicine on and off, yes.

01:25:15.000 But at the same time, the mainstream media vilified him, attacked him every step of the way, because he correctly now called out Dr. Fauci, which the NIH, Fauci's own organization that he was running, called him out on.

01:25:30.000 Yes, and the untrained media do such a great job of presenting medical information to us, too.

01:25:35.000 You know, they're certainly in the catbird seat when it comes to criticizing Rand Paul.

01:25:38.000 Yeah.

01:25:39.000 Everything causes cancer and everything doesn't.

01:25:41.000 I love how the media does this.

01:25:42.000 When I was little, I'd see a story, it was like, smelling coffee could prevent cancer?

01:25:46.000 More at 11!

01:25:47.000 And it's just like, it was a slow news day, they looked up a journal, they said, here's a study that says one thing, the next day, smelling coffee could cause cancer.

01:25:59.000 I remember when the news of the NIH letter came out and broke.

01:26:08.000 Fauci was on the mainstream media.

01:26:09.000 They didn't question him about this.

01:26:11.000 They were talking about how great it is that kids are going to be vaccinated from ages 5 to 11 and up.

01:26:18.000 And meanwhile, there needs to be a debate.

01:26:20.000 There was a Yale epidemiologist who was very important with early COVID treatment who just came out recently and said that he would pull his child out of public school if they have public vaccine mandates in that particular school.

01:26:35.000 Epidemiologist?

01:26:37.000 Epidemiologist, yeah.

01:26:38.000 Yale epidemiologist Dr. Henry Risch came out and he put out a very important statement saying, if it comes to it, I will homeschool my child rather than put him in a public school where he has to take a vaccine.

01:26:53.000 And he was critically important for early COVID-19 treatment.

01:26:56.000 He was the authority on it.

01:26:58.000 And he deserves to be heard.

01:27:00.000 His voice deserves to be elevated.

01:27:01.000 And I wish there was a debate.

01:27:03.000 I wish there was a conversation between him and Dr. Fauci who's telling people that it's going to be great, that all children are going to be vaccinated soon.

01:27:11.000 Dr. Fauci works in an office with a picture of himself.

01:27:14.000 A giant portrait of himself.

01:27:16.000 Wow.

01:27:17.000 That's great, huh?

01:27:19.000 We got pictures of Biden because we love Biden.

01:27:20.000 Lydia's got a big old picture of Biden.

01:27:22.000 Can you show the people?

01:27:23.000 Oh, you can't really see it.

01:27:25.000 It's a little... Here, let me zoom out a little bit.

01:27:27.000 There's a picture of Biden because we love and respect our president.

01:27:30.000 See?

01:27:30.000 Look at that beautiful... It's actually, for those that are just listening, it's a horror photo.

01:27:35.000 His face is like kind of drooping and melting off.

01:27:37.000 He's got a sinister look as he smells Lydia.

01:27:39.000 Love it. 1.00

01:27:39.000 Because he's a disgusting creep. 1.00

01:27:40.000 Yep. 1.00

01:27:41.000 Man, you see that Cornholio pose, man?

01:27:45.000 The imaginary jet pack.

01:27:48.000 Well, we're living in a simulation, that's the only answer.

01:27:50.000 Do you know Red Steez is on Twitter?

01:27:51.000 Stephen Miller?

01:27:52.000 Yeah, of course.

01:27:52.000 The other Stephen Miller?

01:27:53.000 Yeah, the other one.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, he put up this thing where it's like, apparently one of the classic symptoms of dementia, Alzheimer's, is clenched fists like that.

01:28:02.000 I've seen it, yeah.

01:28:03.000 And look, I'm not speculating whether or not Biden has dementia per se, but the point is, is that if this were Trump or any Republican or anyone that the media didn't like, if this were Bernie Sanders, this would be, you know, a week's worth of news cycles about whether or not that he has dementia.

01:28:19.000 I feel that screaming the truth at someone that doesn't want to hear it is fruitless.

01:28:25.000 It may have some impact, but it's such a diminishing return.

01:28:28.000 It's like wind resistance, terminal velocity.

01:28:30.000 You can't get past their brain cloud.

01:28:34.000 I'm trying to think of other ways.

01:28:36.000 You've got to make them figure it out on their own.

01:28:39.000 Set them up to figure it out.

01:28:40.000 Walk into it and be like, hey, I figured out that Biden is losing his, you know, whatever, his mental capacity, if that's what's happening.

01:28:48.000 But to tell them that just doesn't seem, they don't seem to, it doesn't seem to... Yeah, clenched hands is a symptom of Alzheimer's.

01:28:53.000 Yeah, it is.

01:28:54.000 It is.

01:28:55.000 But to Ian's point, I think that he's onto something.

01:28:57.000 Can you help me zoom in a little bit?

01:28:58.000 Well, this could also explain, sorry, just one small important tidbit here before I take it off to Lydia.

01:29:04.000 This could explain why we are on day 279 of the 100 Days of Masking.

01:29:09.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:29:10.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:29:11.000 Well, what I was going to say was that to Ian's point, he was talking about how you can't convince someone to change their mind by giving them new information because you're just contradicting them.

01:29:18.000 This is something Scott Adams talks about a lot.

01:29:20.000 And in general, I would recommend being incredibly compassionate, even when it's really hard.

01:29:25.000 Because what is that quote that people won't care what you told them, they'll only care how you made them feel at the end of the day?

01:29:30.000 Yeah, no, I think this is true. 0.75

01:29:32.000 And this is something that, you know, conservatives in general really stink at. 0.61

01:29:36.000 Yeah.

01:29:36.000 They need to, like, approach the conversation like, I understand why you, you know, that you feel this way.

01:29:43.000 I understand that maybe you've had difficulties because of X, Y and Z. But here, you know, here's why I'm telling you that I disagree.

01:29:51.000 You know, there needs to be some sort of acknowledgement on a human level.

01:29:54.000 Also, rather than like, you know, look, I like Ben Shapiro, but like facts don't care about your feelings.

01:29:59.000 Doesn't get you very far.

01:30:00.000 Feelings don't care about your facts.

01:30:02.000 I feel what you feel is the way to go.

01:30:05.000 Understanding what they feel, that's kind of, it's kind of too cold. 0.96

01:30:09.000 But when you feel what they're feeling, it sucks.

01:30:11.000 Cause like they're feeling terrified and like they're losing their mind.

01:30:15.000 But if you allow yourself to feel it for a minute while you're talking to them, then they start to believe you.

01:30:19.000 It's sales and manipulation 101.

01:30:22.000 The first thing you have to do in order to change anyone's opinion is have rapport.

01:30:26.000 And so that's why a very common sales tactic would be like, Hey, nice to meet you, man.

01:30:31.000 Where are you from Mark?

01:30:33.000 Bend, Oregon.

01:30:34.000 Bend, Oregon!

01:30:35.000 No, seriously, my brother lives up there.

01:30:36.000 I am from Bend.

01:30:37.000 Yeah, my brother's up there.

01:30:38.000 Amazing!

01:30:39.000 I wonder if you guys ever bumped into each other.

01:30:40.000 That's so cool.

01:30:41.000 I can't believe we have so much in common.

01:30:42.000 Well, I live in Alexandria now, but I'm originally from Bend.

01:30:44.000 Wow.

01:30:45.000 So actually, I do have a brother who lives in Bend.

01:30:49.000 But so what you do is when you're doing sales or fundraising activism, you start off just with like, hey, nice to meet you.

01:30:57.000 Where are you from?

01:30:58.000 You know, you find something and then no matter what they say, you say something to compliment it and show that you share a positive emotion.

01:31:07.000 And then you're opening the door.

01:31:09.000 Another thing we talked about is something called the yes train.

01:31:11.000 Get someone to say yes seven times.

01:31:13.000 They're more likely to acquiesce to whatever your demand is.

01:31:16.000 So like if you want to sell them a pizza you be like, hey, look, you know, you're probably it's lunchtime, right?

01:31:19.000 Right, you're looking for food. I'd imagine at some point right and then eventually okay great. I got a pizza right

01:31:25.000 here Here you go. You want it right? Right the last three times.

01:31:28.000 I've been in a car dealership I've always been complimented on my shirt. Huh? I

01:31:32.000 Think I was talking about I don't think my shirt was particularly great

01:31:35.000 My dad and he was like, can you can you believe it?

01:31:38.000 They're, they're trying to stop people from being able to take the vaccine if they want in these certain places.

01:31:43.000 And I was like, that's crazy, man.

01:31:45.000 If, if, if it was a dangerous disease that I could understand, like, it was like, I, I just felt and got what he was saying, even though it wasn't what I agreed with.

01:31:54.000 And then immediately started telling him what I thought.

01:31:57.000 That's the way to get through to people.

01:31:59.000 I was a little vague about what transpired just now on purpose.

01:32:01.000 The unfortunate reality for me was when I was working at these non-profits is that there's a very easy, formulaic way to get people to change their opinions that works every time.

01:32:09.000 And if you're willing to do that, you'll win.

01:32:11.000 And if you're not willing to do that, then you're in trouble.

01:32:14.000 So being blunt with people I feel like is the right thing to do, but the right thing isn't always the effective thing.

01:32:19.000 And so, like you mentioned, it's actually one step beyond that.

01:32:24.000 It's actively lying to manipulate that gets you the most successful outcome.

01:32:29.000 And...

01:32:31.000 Man, I think these charity organizations, these non-profits that used to do this stuff, once I found out that they were lying, I quit.

01:32:37.000 I couldn't do it.

01:32:38.000 I was like, I thought I was being honest.

01:32:39.000 I thought I was doing a good thing.

01:32:40.000 And then once you realize they've actually formulated these lies specifically to make money off people and trick them.

01:32:46.000 Me and my friends describe it as selling hopes and dreams to people or selling them nothing.

01:32:53.000 Like, people would go out in the street and sell hair products and packages.

01:32:55.000 They have these guys that go around and they'll be like, they'll walk up to girls and be like, oh, your hair is amazing.

01:33:00.000 Like, you should definitely check out the salon and then give them the coupon and then they get money when the coupon is used.

01:33:04.000 And then we would always laugh.

01:33:05.000 Like, you know, they'd see us, we'd be fundraising and we'd be like, we don't sell anything.

01:33:09.000 We literally just tell people to give us their money and they do.

01:33:12.000 And they'd be like, wow.

01:33:13.000 People are animals.

01:33:15.000 We think a lot of times they were so smart.

01:33:16.000 I do for sure.

01:33:17.000 But like like a dog, if you treat it right and you reward it when you want want it to repeat itself, it'll repeat itself.

01:33:23.000 I disagree.

01:33:23.000 I had I knew someone I met someone at Columbia who said that they used Pavlovian reinforcement to get their roommate to do chores for them by offering them candies that they really liked whenever they would do something.

01:33:41.000 And then when they wanted the dishes done, they would pull out the candies and then be like, oh, would you mind doing the dishes?

01:33:46.000 And they'd be like, yeah.

01:33:47.000 And then afterwards she'd hand them some candy and they were just like, they didn't realize they had been manipulated.

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01:34:40.000 Alright, Make 1984 Fiction Again says, Alec Baldwin's career was mostly peaceful.

01:34:47.000 Indeed.

01:34:47.000 Yes.

01:34:48.000 To all saying prop gun, would you be cool with him killing somebody with a prop car? 0.98

01:34:52.000 Stabbed with a prop knife? 0.96

01:34:53.000 Hung with a prop rope?

01:34:54.000 There's no prop gun.

01:34:55.000 This is the craziest thing.

01:34:56.000 I understand why they're framing it like that, because if it said Alec Baldwin shot and killed someone on set, people would assume it was his gun in the media.

01:35:03.000 It was his gun.

01:35:03.000 He's the producer of the movie.

01:35:04.000 So you actually made a great point earlier about the cultural differences of this stuff.

01:35:07.000 My dad's a retired Marine Colonel.

01:35:08.000 My dad was an alternate for Marine Corps Rifle Pistol Team.

01:35:10.000 But they wanted to make sure people knew that he didn't bring his own weapon and do it.

01:35:13.000 So you actually made a great point earlier about the cultural differences of this stuff.

01:35:18.000 My dad's a retired Marine colonel.

01:35:20.000 My dad was an alternate for Marine Corps Rifle Pistol Team.

01:35:22.000 He was like, an amazing shot.

01:35:23.000 I grew up shooting.

01:35:25.000 And I remember when I was younger, I was learning to shoot.

01:35:26.000 Like, I pointed the gun in the wrong direction once.

01:35:28.000 I don't remember what happened next.

01:35:30.000 All I know is that my eye was on the ground and I looked up and my dad was holding the gun.

01:35:34.000 Yep.

01:35:35.000 And it was like, you will not do that again.

01:35:37.000 You know, and like, that's how seriously, you know, people that, you know, use guns, you know, treat the safety of them.

01:35:45.000 I got one.

01:35:45.000 I got one for you, Michael Malice.

01:35:47.000 The new right.

01:35:48.000 Michael likes to say the new right.

01:35:49.000 He asks people, do you think some people are better than others?

01:35:55.000 Yes and no.

01:35:56.000 I mean, I think that everyone is a sinner.

01:35:58.000 I mean, the human nature is inherently flawed and one of the big problems of our current societies.

01:36:02.000 People don't understand that human beings are inherently sinful and self-interested.

01:36:06.000 Well, Michael says the new right will just say yes, but the left will justify or hem and haw.

01:36:13.000 And I got a better one.

01:36:15.000 The new right is, was it Alec Baldwin's fault or not?

01:36:19.000 I mean, it's crazy to me.

01:36:21.000 Let's break this down.

01:36:23.000 Alec Baldwin is the producer on a movie.

01:36:25.000 There is a gun negligently discharged multiple times, so crew actually walk off the set protesting.

01:36:31.000 He's then handed the same gun, doesn't check it in defiance of his own training, and then shoots and kills somebody.

01:36:38.000 And they're like, it's not his fault. 1.00

01:36:40.000 You gotta be insane! 0.85

01:36:41.000 So, Nick Cerci and Adam Baldwin are two of the more open right-wingers in Hollywood. 0.84

01:36:48.000 But both guys with sort of distinguished careers in Hollywood and handle a lot of guns on sets.

01:36:52.000 And they both came out and said, you were given very specific instructions about pointing the gun.

01:36:57.000 It is your obligation when they hand you the gun to double check that it's not loaded.

01:37:01.000 Like all of these things, whatever you want to say about negligence that happened before the gun got in his hands, there's no doubt that Baldwin himself was not negligent for not checking to see that apparently there was a live round in the gun.

01:37:12.000 Somebody tweeted at me, so you're saying that anytime someone wants to drive a movie on set, they got to check the oil, check the gas, check the brakes.

01:37:19.000 And I was like, No, I'm saying that anytime someone's doing a scene where they're going to slam the gas full speed towards the crew, they should check the brakes and the safety harness and the emergency handbrake and make sure they've gone through the stunt coordinator because you're risking people's lives.

01:37:35.000 It's not a stunt to drive a car.

01:37:37.000 If they're like, we're gonna have you drive a car around the block.

01:37:38.000 It's not a stunt.

01:37:40.000 If they're like, we want you to slam the gas full speed towards the camera, okay, what's our emergency stop?

01:37:44.000 Do we have a rope, a cable?

01:37:47.000 Do we have a handbrake?

01:37:49.000 Then you will test them out before doing the stunt.

01:37:51.000 So yes, if you're gonna hand a gun to somebody, it should be, for a revolver, cylinder should be open.

01:37:58.000 They should be... I think it should be unloaded.

01:38:00.000 I don't know exactly what their protocol is.

01:38:01.000 It should be unloaded.

01:38:02.000 And if they're going to be using blanks, they show the blank, have the actor inspect it, place the blank in and say, we have placed a blank inside this gun. 0.99

01:38:09.000 If you point this at someone in close enough range, you can kill them. 0.58

01:38:13.000 They should be given the full spiel every time. 0.98

01:38:16.000 Never make assumptions that people know how to handle these things.

01:38:18.000 At least two people should check the gun. 0.92

01:38:20.000 At least.

01:38:21.000 I mean, even when I'm handling firearms, I always ask someone else to check the chamber.

01:38:24.000 We always do this.

01:38:25.000 Check the chamber, check someone else, check it, and then I check it, and then I make sure to put it away, and then it's safe.

01:38:29.000 When we're leaving the range, I'll take my weapon, and I'll clear it, lock the hammer back, and then I'll hand it to the next person to inspect.

01:38:36.000 And then they do the same thing.

01:38:37.000 I was just watching a gun show on YouTube with a bunch of ex-Special Forces guys, and they did the same thing, where they were talking about a particular gun, and they passed the gun around before they even discussed it, so that each one could verify there was no round in the chamber, and it was empty before they even brought it up, picked it up.

01:38:52.000 All right, let's read some more superchats.

01:38:54.000 DJM says to Tim Pool and the rest of the TimCast IRL crew, congratulations on 400 episodes!

01:38:59.000 I hope that your show at TimCast.com continues to have success.

01:39:02.000 We're at 400?

01:39:03.000 We are.

01:39:04.000 Is this 400?

01:39:04.000 400, is that like a number or something?

01:39:06.000 It's a number, yeah.

01:39:06.000 It's 100, right?

01:39:07.000 What's quadricentennial?

01:39:08.000 400 is that like a number?

01:39:10.000 Yeah, it's a number.

01:39:11.000 It's a hundred.

01:39:12.000 Yeah.

01:39:13.000 What is this?

01:39:14.000 What's quad, quadricentennial?

01:39:17.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:39:18.000 That is, yeah.

01:39:18.000 Well, we will eat wings.

01:39:23.000 All right.

01:39:23.000 That sounds great.

01:39:24.000 Open up packages, maybe?

01:39:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:28.000 Alessio DeMonte says Yahoo News just released that the assistant director that gave Baldwin the gun was previously fired due to another gun incident.

01:39:36.000 Looks like they are already starting a story to help Baldwin.

01:39:39.000 Or the guy did, and that's what happened.

01:39:40.000 I don't believe any piece of news that I hear at face value.

01:39:43.000 What if, like, the true story was that Baldwin is part of this Grand Democrat conspiracy and they were like, we need to take out this wife of this lawyer, and then he was like, I'll do it.

01:39:52.000 I'll do whatever you say.

01:39:53.000 They have heart attack guns.

01:39:55.000 That's all I have to say.

01:39:56.000 Can we talk about how it turned out Alec Baldwin's wife had been faking being from Spain for years?

01:40:02.000 I mean, that was the craziest thing I'd heard in forever.

01:40:04.000 You know what people need to understand about assassination is that it would never be that crazy.

01:40:09.000 They would just pay some random guy to go into your neighborhood and then mug you, right?

01:40:17.000 Car crash, car accident.

01:40:18.000 Michael Hastings.

01:40:20.000 No, but even that, it's like, dude, oh no, he got robbed.

01:40:25.000 Robberies happen.

01:40:26.000 I'm not going to go there in terms of speculation, but I totally understand why it was the Seth Rich guy.

01:40:32.000 Why people didn't automatically think that that was just a random D.C.

01:40:35.000 crime.

01:40:36.000 You've got access to all that sensitive D.N.C.

01:40:39.000 information.

01:40:39.000 Of course, there have been plenty of incidents like that, I'm sure, that were foul play.

01:40:46.000 But I think the problem is, you know, sometimes Occam's Razor is right.

01:40:50.000 There's a lot of people who believe the centric conspiracies and stuff, but like, I think it's a lot of wishful thinking.

01:40:56.000 Oh, I think so, too.

01:40:57.000 I'm just pointing out that, like, I totally understand why people go there.

01:40:59.000 Yeah, but yeah, in that case, you never give government the benefit of the doubt.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:41:04.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 But who's to say the government was involved in it?

01:41:09.000 We should at least have the ability to answer and question.

01:41:11.000 Sure, sure.

01:41:12.000 No, I will say that there's definitely a lot of, like, random things in DC where, like, so-and-so who's a person of some import was standing in their driveway and this person came up and something happened.

01:41:23.000 Geez, politics is a dirty game.

01:41:25.000 It's very dirty, yeah.

01:41:26.000 Wait, I should have brought my dog?

01:41:27.000 Damon Stanley says, Tim, the members event was rad.

01:41:29.000 Shout out to every person and dog there.

01:41:31.000 I met some good peeps looking forward to free domestany stronger together.

01:41:34.000 Wait, I could have brought my dog?

01:41:35.000 Yeah, you could have.

01:41:36.000 My dog was there, yeah.

01:41:37.000 Katoth Swiss says, remember Tim, the slow blade penetrates the shield.

01:41:43.000 Yep, I remember that from the movie.

01:41:45.000 That was before I walked out.

01:41:46.000 Torturing Tim.

01:41:48.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:41:51.000 BoJess says, Ian, if psilocybin was actually a threat to the system, they wouldn't allow it to be legalized.

01:41:59.000 That's what they want you to believe.

01:42:01.000 Yeah, but you gotta define threat and system and all that.

01:42:04.000 It can definitely alter the way we govern ourselves or help us change the way we perceive our own system of governance.

01:42:11.000 But I don't think it would... Yeah, I agree with you.

01:42:13.000 I don't think it's like a destructive force.

01:42:15.000 Jeremy Hall says, Tim, if you were to get into a coma on the Zero motorcycle, what plans do you have in place?

01:42:20.000 Shim cast? 0.98

01:42:21.000 Luke cast?

01:42:22.000 Personally, I vote for Ian cast.

01:42:25.000 As if.

01:42:25.000 The plan is, my bed will be placed here in front of the camera, and I'll be intubated and on life support, and that will be the show.

01:42:33.000 And then he'll whisper in my ear, and then I'll tell you what he said.

01:42:36.000 We'll livestream it, and then if you get like 50 likes, treats go down, fall on him.

01:42:40.000 It'll be like, it'll show the bed with me unconscious, and then it'll cut to Luke, and he'll be like, that's a good point, Tim!

01:42:48.000 And then Ian'll be like, Tim's wrong about this one, and then he'll show me again, and I'll just go, boop!

01:42:52.000 Tim actually has a pacemaker wired to some explosives in the basement, so when his heart stops beating, the whole compound goes sky high.

01:43:00.000 Just implodes.

01:43:02.000 A warning light.

01:43:03.000 You get 30 seconds.

01:43:04.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:43:05.000 Don Jett says dumb law in West Virginia. 0.92

01:43:08.000 It is illegal to beat your wife so long as it's done in public on Sunday on the courthouse steps. 0.95

01:43:13.000 I don't believe that.

01:43:14.000 I kind of looked that up.

01:43:15.000 That's amazing.

01:43:16.000 That can't be true.

01:43:17.000 Could be.

01:43:18.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:43:21.000 Tristan Lee Dobler says Dave Chappelle stole multiple jokes that Owen Benjamin made years ago and got blacklisted for.

01:43:26.000 Watch The Greatest Comedian.

01:43:28.000 Oh, okay.

01:43:28.000 Well, I don't know if that's true, but, you know, maybe it is.

01:43:32.000 Maybe it is.

01:43:34.000 Alright, Steve Otten says, Noam Chomsky is the Grinch who stole liberty.

01:43:38.000 Oh yeah, you said that one.

01:43:39.000 I saw that in the chat.

01:43:40.000 I was like, this is too good not to share.

01:43:42.000 Eric Benjamin Hamilton says, after creating a short film featuring Yuri Bezmenov for YouTube, I instantly got a few comments calling me a fascist.

01:43:48.000 Makes it clear that to communists, anything different from them is fascist, as is with the anti-fascist rampart, the Berlin Wall.

01:43:55.000 So can we talk about fascism just for a second?

01:43:57.000 Like the actual like poli sci textbook version of fascism is the merging of state and corporate power.

01:44:04.000 That was Mussolini's own definition of it.

01:44:07.000 And if you look at like what's happening, for instance, with like social media and regulation and things like that, I mean, like these are kind of inherently like fascist arrangements.

01:44:15.000 We're seeing a lot of like Fascism in mainstream America in terms of this sort of thing.

01:44:20.000 And it's just really weird to me that fascism has come to mean basically, you know, anything that the left doesn't like.

01:44:27.000 We actually have some, yeah.

01:44:29.000 QuietGuitaristFan says, By the way, I never read the book.

01:44:32.000 I'm assuming he's talking about Dune.

01:44:33.000 And I actually understood it from beginning to end.

01:44:36.000 It's really not that hard, dude.

01:44:37.000 It's hilarious how easy it is to understand if you just pay attention.

01:44:39.000 Once again, MCU theme parks.

01:44:41.000 I don't think Marvel movies are masterpieces.

01:44:43.000 I think they're popcorn flicks.

01:44:45.000 I thought Dune Can I spoil the movie that's been remade from the 80s?

01:44:50.000 I don't think so, right?

01:44:51.000 Okay, spoilers.

01:44:53.000 Alright, so here's the first complaint that someone said to me after we left, was like, wait a minute, that whole scene where he's talking to Idaho and he's like, I wanna go with you, and he's like, you can't.

01:45:02.000 And then he has another scene where he's like, Dad, I want to go, and you can't.

01:45:05.000 And then he goes anyway, and it's kind of glossed over.

01:45:08.000 Like, what was the point of that scene?

01:45:10.000 Why, you know, so here was my experience.

01:45:13.000 The cinematography was fantastic.

01:45:15.000 The music was fantastic.

01:45:17.000 It was beautifully made.

01:45:18.000 But you had to know the story to enjoy it.

01:45:23.000 I'm sitting there with my girlfriend and we're talking about it and she's like, did I miss something?

01:45:29.000 What's the word they're saying?

01:45:31.000 What's the name of the houses?

01:45:33.000 Why is this one bad?

01:45:34.000 Why did they do this?

01:45:36.000 And I'm like, people keep saying, you just can't handle it because they're trying to cram too much in at once.

01:45:41.000 And I'm like, they didn't cram anything in.

01:45:43.000 We were confused halfway through as to what was going on, and it's because it was so slow and drawn out that it was just like, look, if you want to see part one of an art film, I got no problem with that, I just don't like it.

01:45:56.000 And so I'll complain about it and not want to see it, just like I thought, you know, uh, uh, Captain Marvel was bad.

01:46:01.000 But there are a ton of movies that don't have action that I think are fantastic.

01:46:03.000 It's absurd.

01:46:04.000 People are like, their immediate response is like, Tim just wants action movies like superheroes, and I'm like, that's not true.

01:46:09.000 I didn't see it, but if you're gonna do Dune, you gotta give the main guy his power within 20 minutes and then get him off the planet within 20 minutes, 25 minutes, and then make it pure action from there.

01:46:17.000 I mean, that's... I watched a really great video, it broke down why Guardians of the Galaxy people rated highly and why Suicide Squad was rated poorly, and they talk about time.

01:46:28.000 And they were like, Suicide Squad tried using flashbacks to introduce plot lines and characters, and it was really confusing for the audience and boring.

01:46:38.000 And so you don't actually get the actual story you're trying to understand until you're an hour in.

01:46:43.000 Whereas Guardians of the Galaxy introduces it immediately in the intro, you know, Star-Lord's getting the... and I'm using a Marvel film.

01:46:50.000 I'm trying to use a YouTube example of like a breakdown between what works and what doesn't.

01:46:54.000 But I think the issue I had with Dune was that they're trying to make more than one movie.

01:47:00.000 If they just made it one movie... Simple action.

01:47:03.000 Yeah, Andreas pointed out, you have the giant sandworm in the beginning trying to destroy a fleeing ship.

01:47:08.000 You've got to show the worm.

01:47:09.000 I mean, that's the biggest part of the whole series is the worms, the sandworms.

01:47:13.000 I read, I was reading online that they were like, the problem with the movie adaptations, the original and this one, is that they're trying to make a book, which works, into a movie that doesn't.

01:47:22.000 Someone commented on Reddit, they were like, it should have opened with Sandworm, so you understood the dune, the importance of the spice.

01:47:29.000 The danger of the worm, yeah.

01:47:30.000 Instead it was a very slow beginning that was kind of confusing, and the voice, and you know, it's like...

01:47:35.000 I haven't seen the movie, but the book and the whole lore and everything that goes into the series of Dune books are known for being complex.

01:47:43.000 I mean, and that's what people enjoy about the books.

01:47:46.000 And I can totally see where that doesn't translate easily.

01:47:50.000 It certainly didn't translate easily for David Lynch.

01:47:52.000 No, his inner monologue stuff was terrible.

01:47:54.000 Doesn't translate to movies.

01:47:56.000 That was confusing.

01:47:56.000 I tried watching it.

01:47:58.000 Look, movies are different mediums, and people who are fans of the book tend to be super fans of the movie.

01:48:04.000 But when I ask, like, just look at some of the questions that non-fans had about watching the movie.

01:48:10.000 If the movie's not for people who have not read the book, then by all means, it's not for me.

01:48:13.000 And then enjoy your movie.

01:48:14.000 I got no problem.

01:48:15.000 But, you know, the way it was explained to me was, imagine Star... This is what someone said.

01:48:21.000 If you like Star Wars, A New Hope, and you want to watch a two hour and 40 minute movie that's just Luke in the desert, and it ends with him finally meeting Han Solo, that's due in the movie.

01:48:30.000 Oh, jeez.

01:48:32.000 Yeah.

01:48:33.000 But that's basically what it was.

01:48:35.000 One of these days they're gonna do it, right?

01:48:37.000 It's the hero's journey, but he's not thrust into adventure until the movie's over.

01:48:41.000 And so you're like, I didn't get that far.

01:48:43.000 I've heard a ton of ecstatic things, but all from people that were like sci-fi super fans, fans of the book.

01:48:50.000 I will tell you, people don't want to hear it.

01:48:53.000 We went to a theater.

01:48:55.000 We went to the Frederick Theater.

01:48:57.000 There was probably nine people in the theater, and it was five were us.

01:49:02.000 And I noticed other people sleeping.

01:49:06.000 After after an hour and 20 or so minutes, I was just like, I'll just read what happened.

01:49:11.000 I'll just I'll just read.

01:49:13.000 I'd rather just read this.

01:49:14.000 I can't watch this.

01:49:14.000 It's so slow and drawn out.

01:49:17.000 And I look over my girlfriend sleeping.

01:49:19.000 And then I'm like, Hey, you want to leave?

01:49:20.000 She's like, Yeah.

01:49:21.000 And then I get up.

01:49:22.000 I'm like, Luke, we're leaving.

01:49:22.000 He's like, All right.

01:49:23.000 And then we went and got we got hibachi.

01:49:24.000 It was great.

01:49:25.000 What were your feelings on the stuff that you did see?

01:49:28.000 I'm not much of a film critic.

01:49:29.000 I don't have much to say about this, to be honest with you.

01:49:31.000 He's scared to offend the masses.

01:49:33.000 I don't care to offend anyone.

01:49:36.000 It was just like, that's a long movie.

01:49:37.000 It's two hours and 40 minutes.

01:49:39.000 It's a lot to sit through.

01:49:41.000 And I was like, I'll just watch it later.

01:49:42.000 So if I'm already like, I wasn't in it, I wasn't enthralled by it.

01:49:47.000 I was just like, I'll just watch it later at home.

01:49:50.000 Uh, because it was available.

01:49:51.000 So that, that tells me that I wasn't, you know, entertained by it.

01:49:55.000 I was super excited for it because we watched the original.

01:49:58.000 I can't tell you what happened in it because it was so slow and then a lot, like we played it downstairs a few months ago.

01:50:04.000 But it was just like, eventually became on in the background.

01:50:07.000 And so then when they were like, they're redoing it, I was like, they're gonna do it right this time.

01:50:12.000 They're not gonna do the inner monologue thing.

01:50:14.000 They're gonna speed up the story.

01:50:15.000 I hear the story's really good.

01:50:16.000 I'm excited for it.

01:50:17.000 And then it was just like, I started watching it.

01:50:18.000 I was like, wow.

01:50:19.000 There's a made-for-TV version of it with William Hurt that was actually better than the David Lynch one.

01:50:24.000 I don't remember if it was considered good at this point.

01:50:26.000 I don't know.

01:50:27.000 There was a made-for-TV one?

01:50:28.000 Yeah, William Hurt.

01:50:29.000 Check it out if you like Dune.

01:50:31.000 Wasn't there something like in the early 1970s they were gonna attempt to make it and like Salvador Dali was involved or something crazy?

01:50:37.000 Yeah, it was an art film version of it that never... they couldn't decide.

01:50:41.000 They wanted it to be like Star Wars but then the director wanted to be kind of an art film so it never got made.

01:50:46.000 Let's move on.

01:50:47.000 We got Dan9S. 0.97

01:50:48.000 He says, Pretty sure I've never heard someone's doctor say, Due to your allergies and other medical issues, you shouldn't stop at red lights.

01:50:53.000 I'm also pretty sure any spiritual belief that has something against red lights wouldn't be driving.

01:50:57.000 Good point.

01:51:01.000 Alright, let's see.

01:51:03.000 Roberto Lara says the reason Luke was on fire.

01:51:05.000 Somewhere in Texas, Alex Jones looked up at the night sky, smiled, raised his finger, and shot a bolt of freedom lightning, and yelled, let the frogs be frogs.

01:51:12.000 That's probably it.

01:51:13.000 I did feel like there was fire in my veins.

01:51:15.000 Oh, that's weird.

01:51:16.000 I didn't think it was relevant to the story, but before we walked in the building, Luke did get struck by a powerful blast of green lightning.

01:51:24.000 Okay, that's what that was.

01:51:25.000 I just thought it was a puddle.

01:51:29.000 And all of a sudden he was glowing and his hair was floating and he was levitating into the building.

01:51:33.000 It's a puddle full of leached estrogen that is making the frogs kick.

01:51:37.000 All right, let's see.

01:51:39.000 Chris Blank Productions says, did you see Project Veritas' new video?

01:51:41.000 The New Jersey governor has been saying no mandates to get re-elected while planning to enact mandates after he's elected.

01:51:47.000 Ha! 0.89

01:51:48.000 That's why we left New Jersey!

01:51:50.000 Man.

01:51:50.000 I'm finding this, uh, it's legal to beat your wife on the courthouse.

01:51:53.000 Law is not real.

01:51:54.000 It's a South Carolina thing, and this other website, it says it's all, uh, parody.

01:51:58.000 Fake news.

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 Fake news.

01:52:01.000 All right, let's see.

01:52:02.000 Scott Groh says, I wonder what people would think if they knew that Paul Atreides goes on to kill entire planetary populations to rid the galaxy of resistance to his rule as the new emperor.

01:52:12.000 Spoiler alert.

01:52:13.000 I don't know.

01:52:13.000 I don't remember.

01:52:14.000 I don't want to confirm or deny that.

01:52:16.000 Spoiler, it's like an old book and the movie doesn't even have that in it, so.

01:52:19.000 Paul Atreides was pretty cool, I don't remember.

01:52:22.000 What's the thing he's called?

01:52:23.000 The Kwisit Tadarak.

01:52:24.000 Exactly! You should know! It should be simplified for a common person to know

01:52:30.000 and walk away and be like, he was the Jedi. Rather than call it the Kwisit Tadarak.

01:52:34.000 That's fine, they can call it the Kwisit Tadarak. The problem I had with the movie was that

01:52:37.000 it was just like, glossed over really quickly.

01:52:40.000 He was the Bene Gesserit. 0.88

01:52:42.000 I don't remember.

01:52:42.000 To be honest, I don't remember.

01:52:44.000 No, the Bene Gesserit was, like, the monk ladies that could yell or something. 1.00

01:52:47.000 Yeah, right.

01:52:48.000 No, I mean, yeah.

01:52:49.000 I'm dismissing the concept of this.

01:52:52.000 It was a good book.

01:52:53.000 I would highly recommend the book if you like it.

01:52:55.000 Look, I think Star Wars... Am I understanding that Star Wars basically ripped off Dune?

01:52:59.000 Is that true?

01:53:00.000 He was heavily inspired by it.

01:53:02.000 I know that.

01:53:02.000 Star Wars ripped off a lot of things.

01:53:04.000 Right.

01:53:05.000 But think about how Star Wars A New Hope did such a good job explaining everything.

01:53:09.000 Yeah.

01:53:10.000 Like the Force, the Jedi, the Clone Wars, how these things are introduced.

01:53:13.000 A New Hope is a great movie.

01:53:15.000 It was a samurai.

01:53:16.000 They rip off a samurai movie?

01:53:17.000 Yeah, Kurosawa film, The Hidden Fortress, very strong influence on that.

01:53:23.000 But there were a whole bunch of other things, plus all the mythology.

01:53:26.000 I mean, there were like old Celtic legends about guys with flaming swords and stuff

01:53:30.000 that track Star Wars very closely.

01:53:33.000 And there's all these things that were clearly, it was a case of genius deals, I think.

01:53:38.000 But also, the thing with Star Wars is always just so weird because clearly, Lucas had some sort of outside influences

01:53:44.000 on the set and stuff that were tempering his worst impulses, so they didn't do nine hours

01:53:50.000 about trade routes or whatever happened in the trilogy I've been trying to forget ever since.

01:53:54.000 Oh, gosh.

01:53:55.000 Jar Jar and Dooku.

01:53:57.000 Like, Duke?

01:53:58.000 Dookie?

01:53:59.000 Duke Count Dookie?

01:54:00.000 Yeah, that was just awful.

01:54:01.000 Terrible names!

01:54:02.000 But you know what I like about the prequels is that they're like bad movies that are funny bad.

01:54:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:08.000 I ripped my heart out.

01:54:08.000 I don't know.

01:54:09.000 The sequels are so much worse.

01:54:12.000 All right, all right.

01:54:13.000 Searden says Washington state is already building isolation quarantine camps and facilities.

01:54:18.000 Just thought you should know.

01:54:19.000 Is that true?

01:54:19.000 We get a fact check on that?

01:54:22.000 DK6 says Dexter Holland is a pioneer in mRNA research.

01:54:25.000 His dissertation was on using mRNA for HIV treatments.

01:54:28.000 Of course, he's Provax. 0.99

01:54:30.000 Yes, but I think that was micro-RNA research, not messenger RNA research.

01:54:34.000 It could be wrong.

01:54:34.000 I don't know a whole lot about it.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, I know he has like a PhD in molecular biology or something, which is kind of crazy for a punk rocker or whatever, but yeah.

01:54:43.000 He also owns a hot sauce company.

01:54:46.000 Yep.

01:54:46.000 King County.

01:54:46.000 Was it Gringo Bandito?

01:54:47.000 I think it's called.

01:54:48.000 Yeah.

01:54:49.000 Looks like they're actually joined over there.

01:54:50.000 King County, Washington.

01:54:51.000 Looks like it's building isolation quarantine facility.

01:54:54.000 According to their website.

01:54:55.000 Bishop Cruz says the offspring song Self Esteem is all about weak men letting horrible women take advantage of them. 0.71

01:55:01.000 Might as well be sung by the prototypical male feminist. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Come Out and Play was also prescient.

01:55:05.000 I listened to that song like a hundred times.

01:55:07.000 Yeah, I was told- I taped it off the radio.

01:55:09.000 I was told Come Out and Play when I was little was racist.

01:55:12.000 You got to keep them separated.

01:55:14.000 I mean, they were from L.A.

01:55:15.000 and, like, the gang situation at the time was, you know, legit and out of control.

01:55:20.000 So, I assume they kind of knew what they were speaking about.

01:55:23.000 Yeah.

01:55:24.000 I don't actually think it was racist.

01:55:27.000 Anyway, Dominic Falcone says, Dinosaur Jr.

01:55:30.000 is my favorite band.

01:55:31.000 Just happy to hear it mentioned on one of my favorite shows.

01:55:33.000 Hey, there you go.

01:55:34.000 I'm a massive Jay Maskis, Dinosaur Jr.

01:55:36.000 fan.

01:55:37.000 What's that one song, like that really popular song they had?

01:55:43.000 The one kind of song they got that was sort of popular was called Feel the Pain.

01:55:47.000 Yes, Feel the Pain.

01:55:49.000 I know that one, that's about it.

01:55:53.000 Alright, let's see.

01:55:56.000 We'll grab something down here.

01:55:58.000 Anonymous Anonymous says, on the topic of music, Pink Floyd's 1977 Animals is a great album.

01:56:02.000 I think it speaks measures for the times we're in.

01:56:05.000 So the original Dune trailer was tracked to that Pink Floyd cover.

01:56:10.000 It was really awesome.

01:56:12.000 But as I seem to recall, and maybe I'm misremembering this, but when I mentioned that early 1970s Dune attempt with Salvador Dali, I think Pink Floyd might also have been involved in that at one point or something.

01:56:25.000 But, you know, either way, yes.

01:56:27.000 Pink Floyd and Dune seem to track up nicely.

01:56:31.000 All right, let's see.

01:56:32.000 Yeah, Dune with Mick Jagger and Salvador Dali, 1970s.

01:56:36.000 Okay, well, it was Mick Jagger, I guess.

01:56:40.000 I mean, Ian was a social media moderator and he tells horrifying stories about things we can't talk about.

01:56:43.000 I would love to have a Facebook moderator in here to get their perspective.

01:56:45.000 to watch. You should have one or both on. I mean, Ian was a social media moderator and he tells

01:56:51.000 horrifying stories about things we can't talk about. I would love to have a Facebook moderator

01:56:55.000 in here to get that perspective. All right, let's see.

01:57:00.000 Can Confucianists is that what it says? Who do you think has killed more dogs, the FBI or Fauci? 0.69

01:57:08.000 Would anyone care if the dogs were placed back in a nursing or retirement home?

01:57:12.000 Oh, geez.

01:57:14.000 FedTee says, Pro tip.

01:57:19.000 I want to refocus the conversation onto how exciting it is to stay healthy.

01:57:22.000 out. If we all participated in this, we wouldn't need as much animal testing and better protections

01:57:26.000 from COVID. This is what I wanted to bring up earlier. I want to refocus the conversation on to

01:57:31.000 how exciting it is to stay healthy. I think that people get excited about

01:57:35.000 sickness and not like they get terrified, which is a form of excitement.

01:57:39.000 And, but really it's exciting to stay alive and stay healthy.

01:57:43.000 I know there's no end to it.

01:57:44.000 So it's not like there's not this final excitement point that you're looking at, but man, is it fun to feel good or all the things that you can do that are exciting when you're healthy.

01:57:54.000 Alright, SlickBlackCadillac says, Tim, the scene calling for Baldwin to point the revolver at the camera means the gun must appear loaded to moviegoers.

01:58:01.000 I believe this fact is pivotal to the chain of events.

01:58:04.000 Also, I see Luke, I exacerbate.

01:58:07.000 Okay.

01:58:07.000 Well, when it comes to pointing a gun at the camera, wouldn't that require a very specific set of safety protocols to point a gun at a camera that appears loaded?

01:58:16.000 I would like to not see, I would see the cinematographer not standing behind the camera in line of fire.

01:58:21.000 They're not supposed to do that.

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:23.000 Like we have cameras here that are remote controlled.

01:58:26.000 Accidents happened on set before and that's how they happened.

01:58:31.000 It's criminal.

01:58:32.000 I think it's criminal.

01:58:33.000 I don't know if that means you should go to jail for it.

01:58:35.000 I think a jury can figure that out, but it's criminal.

01:58:41.000 Definitely a degree of negligence that merits law and investigation.

01:58:46.000 And a very serious one about, you know, criminal charges for sure.

01:58:51.000 All right, let's see.

01:58:53.000 Raven Knight says, there was a sci-fi channel miniseries of Dune that was great.

01:58:57.000 I bet that's the one with William Hurt.

01:58:59.000 That probably is.

01:59:00.000 That might be cool.

01:59:00.000 It really actually was.

01:59:01.000 I came off the David Lynch one, so anything was good for me at that point.

01:59:05.000 I remember not being horrible.

01:59:07.000 And William Hurt was awesome.

01:59:09.000 He played the dad.

01:59:10.000 Jacob E. Manuel says, Hey Tim, I live in Illinois, not Crap Cago, but my company tried to mandate the shot.

01:59:15.000 We all walked out.

01:59:15.000 Now they have allowed us to remove masks and no shots.

01:59:18.000 Last election we voted to be separated from Crap Cago. 1.00

01:59:21.000 Love the show.

01:59:21.000 Wow.

01:59:23.000 I hear all these stories where people are like, my boss mandated the vaccine and we said no, and then they change their minds.

01:59:29.000 Isn't it amazing how unionization works? 0.62

01:59:31.000 Isn't it funny that the left is mocking these people when they're enacting collective bargaining power?

01:59:36.000 I love it.

01:59:38.000 Well, it cuts both ways.

01:59:39.000 I mean, the schools were also shut for 18 months unnecessarily because of unions, too.

01:59:43.000 But it is true that I do think that in our current situation, people need to think a lot more about collective action and conservatives need to get a lot more comfortable with it, too.

01:59:52.000 Alright.

01:59:54.000 Mavis says, Dune was created by a guy that only read the Wikipedia page and based the movie off of that.

02:00:00.000 Perhaps.

02:00:00.000 I'm gonna call fake news on that one.

02:00:02.000 I think they're just making a joke.

02:00:04.000 Yeah.

02:00:05.000 Darkside66 says, everyone is asking why Alex had a loaded gun.

02:00:09.000 I want to know why he was pointing any gun at the cinematographer and the director.

02:00:13.000 I wonder how often that happens in movies because you get the pointing at the camera shot, which probably looks amazing on film, but how often are they standing there?

02:00:20.000 I would like to know what is the rationale for ever having a live round on a movie set ever for any reason?

02:00:25.000 Yeah, we, but we went over this on the show last week and like, I mean, it's, it becomes conspiratorial at that point.

02:00:32.000 Yeah.

02:00:33.000 I suppose there's cartridges that have no powder in it.

02:00:38.000 It's just the bullets.

02:00:39.000 It looks real.

02:00:40.000 And they use those for appearance.

02:00:42.000 And then there are blanks.

02:00:44.000 But, I don't know. 0.99

02:00:45.000 Somebody put a bullet in that.

02:00:47.000 And it's Alec Baldwin's fault.

02:00:49.000 He was handed a real gun.

02:00:50.000 And the left is desperate to say, somebody doesn't know what it's like to be on set.

02:00:54.000 It's like, what are you talking about?

02:00:55.000 I lived in Hollywood.

02:00:56.000 I had a bunch of friends who worked. 1.00

02:00:57.000 I was in a stupid TV show once. 0.98

02:00:58.000 It's not like I was around big movie sets, but I've been around them. 1.00

02:01:02.000 And it's insane to think that that's an excuse for being handed a loaded weapon and being like, but I didn't know it was loaded!

02:01:06.000 I fired a blank once out of a M1 Garand, but not at anyone, just out into the woods.

02:01:13.000 I got in the car.

02:01:14.000 I was told to drive at full speed towards these people.

02:01:17.000 And they said, don't worry.

02:01:18.000 It would be fine. 0.71

02:01:18.000 But the, but then I hit them and they died. 0.71

02:01:20.000 It's like, what happened?

02:01:21.000 Why did you do that?

02:01:24.000 Yeah.

02:01:24.000 Maybe you should check.

02:01:25.000 You should be careful.

02:01:28.000 All right.

02:01:28.000 Let's see.

02:01:32.000 Mudge Mudgy says Luke t-shirt saying I'm with Dave using one script.

02:01:35.000 Like I'm with Hillary type another with a Trump type text.

02:01:38.000 Interesting, maybe.

02:01:41.000 I'll talk to my designers, see what they think.

02:01:42.000 I'm with Dave.

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02:02:10.000 Mark, you want to shout anything out?

02:02:13.000 Uh, no, other than, uh, I got a book out.

02:02:16.000 Rigged.

02:02:16.000 It's behind me.

02:02:18.000 It's great.

02:02:19.000 You got Twitter or something?

02:02:20.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:21.000 I am at Heminator on Twitter.

02:02:24.000 That's a nice name.

02:02:25.000 I like that one. 0.97

02:02:27.000 I signed up for Twitter like 10 years ago with my stupid college nickname because I was like, this won't be of any professional use whatsoever, right? 0.94

02:02:35.000 Of course, I'm now cursing that it is literally destroying the entire journalism industry, but that's how I ended up with that. 0.96

02:02:42.000 I'm just going to call you that from now on.

02:02:45.000 And I released two videos today one on youtube.com forward slash we are change about Janet Yellen's crazy plans for you and Another one very important one on Luke uncensored comm that I can't tell you about I want to I'm Ian Crosland and I another huge shout out to the event on Saturday night at longshot in West Virginia Tim Thanks for putting it on man.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, and we got some Behind-the-scenes footage, there's an episode of Cast Castle up today.

02:03:11.000 Check it out on YouTube if you want to see the lead-up to it.

02:03:13.000 Everybody getting ready, doing sound checks.

02:03:15.000 Really awesome.

02:03:16.000 The cartoon for that was amazing.

02:03:19.000 Yes!

02:03:19.000 I think we have the members-only event for members on TimCast.com.

02:03:23.000 I don't know if it's uploaded yet.

02:03:24.000 Yeah, it may not be up.

02:03:26.000 The members-only?

02:03:27.000 I saw a thumbnail for it, for sure.

02:03:29.000 That's exciting.

02:03:30.000 There's a lot of footage from that night.

02:03:32.000 And you guys that came out, you are incredible.

02:03:34.000 I met so many people.

02:03:36.000 Thank you so much.

02:03:37.000 I got this.

02:03:39.000 A voodoo doll? 0.95

02:03:41.000 Ian Crosland voodoo doll.

02:03:42.000 Bobblehead.

02:03:42.000 Be nice to her.

02:03:43.000 A little bobbly bobblehead.

02:03:45.000 I don't think it's up yet, but we'll try and get it up as soon as possible.

02:03:49.000 But like the comedy, the energy, the people, the just interactions, it was powerful.

02:03:54.000 Ryan Long was incredible.

02:03:56.000 And we could have like had a huger venue, but I think even keeping it this small, having that kind of like those kind of real small intimate conversations with individuals one-on-one was pretty important.

02:04:08.000 Here's the plan.

02:04:09.000 The plan is we're going to do the exact same thing in Miami.

02:04:13.000 Nice.

02:04:13.000 I like it.

02:04:14.000 I love that sound.

02:04:16.000 You know, it's because I was talking... By Miami, you mean free America?

02:04:19.000 That's right.

02:04:20.000 I was talking to Ryan Long and he was mentioning like Fort Lauderdale and the Miami area.

02:04:24.000 And I was like, you know, I've been trying to get Luke forever. 0.98

02:04:27.000 You son of a gun! 0.97

02:04:28.000 I've been screaming about Florida forever. 0.99

02:04:30.000 But, but, um, someone else brought up the anti-communist movement there because of all

02:04:34.000 of the expats is massive and they absolutely would love a freedom oriented kind of event.

02:04:39.000 And so, you know, we were thinking about doing the same thing and then having it be,

02:04:42.000 if we do a bigger venue, we can have an area for members like we did,

02:04:47.000 but then we'd also sell tickets to the public for like upper seating and stuff like that.

02:04:50.000 Yeah, Hard Rock Cafe.

02:04:51.000 I mean, there's a reason I stay there half the year.

02:04:53.000 I love it down there.

02:04:54.000 The energy down there is huge, and it's one of the few places that is actually free.

02:04:59.000 Yeah, that's funny you use the word energy.

02:05:01.000 This is exactly how I would describe it.

02:05:02.000 I had to go to a wedding down in Tampa a month or two ago.

02:05:05.000 And it was just shocking.

02:05:06.000 It was like going to an entirely different country.

02:05:09.000 People are alive.

02:05:11.000 Things are happening in the state.

02:05:13.000 People are optimistic.

02:05:15.000 And in addition to the fact it didn't have any of the insane COVID protocols.

02:05:21.000 There's no negativity.

02:05:22.000 There's no one harping and being mad at you for not wearing a mask.

02:05:25.000 None of that.

02:05:26.000 Well, we'll get on that.

02:05:28.000 Oh, and Lydia.

02:05:29.000 Thank you guys for tuning in.

02:05:30.000 Thank you all who came to the event.

02:05:32.000 I was watching Ian.

02:05:32.000 He went hard for like seven hours.

02:05:35.000 I was like, how is he doing this?

02:05:37.000 I kept needing to step outside.

02:05:38.000 Ian like didn't even come up for air. 0.69

02:05:40.000 It was ridiculous. 0.87

02:05:41.000 I was like, this man. 0.96

02:05:42.000 I trained for 20 years to do this.

02:05:44.000 Dude, yes.

02:05:45.000 He is quite the people person.

02:05:47.000 I love him very much, so hopefully we can do more like that.

02:05:49.000 He got on stage, and he looked at everyone and said, I have been training for 40 years for this moment today.

02:05:55.000 And then he played the guitar, and everyone was like, yay!

02:05:56.000 That was good.

02:05:58.000 Yep, that's what happened.

02:05:59.000 All right, everybody.

02:06:00.000 We will see you all over at timcast.com.

02:06:03.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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