Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Desantis 2024 Launch CRASHES, Trump JR ROASTS Event As "DESASTER" w-Tyler Bowyer

00:00:00.000 It's official!

00:00:28.000 Ron DeSantis has announced he is running for president.

00:00:30.000 He filed earlier today.

00:00:32.000 And in a Twitter space, uh, I- we didn't actually get to hear first, because the Twitter space crashed, I think, several times.

00:00:39.000 And it dropped down from, like, 700,000 people down to about, like, 98, and then it was around, like, 100 and some-odd thousand, I think, when he formally announced that he was running.

00:00:48.000 And, uh, oof.

00:00:50.000 Yeah, Elon and Ron are getting roasted over this.

00:00:53.000 And I'm not here to drag out those guys.

00:00:55.000 I think they did something that was interesting.

00:00:58.000 Launching a presidential campaign on Twitter was a bold move, but Twitter was not able to handle it.

00:01:02.000 They just didn't have the technology.

00:01:04.000 And in this announcement, you got this one dude, I can't remember his name, David something.

00:01:10.000 I think he's a reporter.

00:01:11.000 He says, maybe this is the biggest room ever.

00:01:14.000 And I'm like, Yeah, no.

00:01:18.000 Red Bull had like 4 million people watching live when that guy jumped from outer space.

00:01:22.000 And we had 200,000 live when Steven Crowder was here in January.

00:01:26.000 So the initial announcement could have been big, but I really do think they pulled wind out of their sails and then, you know, it crashed.

00:01:31.000 I don't blame them for that.

00:01:31.000 They overloaded it.

00:01:32.000 It was very popular.

00:01:33.000 But it is official.

00:01:34.000 We're going to talk about this.

00:01:35.000 And I think the biggest critique that I have is, man, Milo was correct about Ron DeSantis and Charisma.

00:01:42.000 And we'll get into it in great detail because I do think Ron is a fantastic politician.

00:01:46.000 I think he's got great policies.

00:01:47.000 I think he's doing amazing things in Florida.

00:01:49.000 But there's just something we gotta talk about when it comes to a presidential race.

00:01:52.000 So we'll get into all that.

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00:02:18.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tyler Boyer.

00:02:22.000 Hey, what's up?

00:02:23.000 How's it going, man?

00:02:23.000 Who are you?

00:02:23.000 What do you do?

00:02:24.000 I'm the COO by day of Turning Point Action.

00:02:27.000 By night, I am the National Committee Man on the RNC for Arizona.

00:02:32.000 Right on.

00:02:32.000 So you're doing a lot of stuff.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, a little bit.

00:02:34.000 Right on.

00:02:35.000 Well, good to have you here.

00:02:35.000 That was simple.

00:02:36.000 Happy to be here.

00:02:37.000 We got Seamus Coghlan.

00:02:38.000 I'm Seamus Coghlan, creator of Freedom Tunes.

00:02:40.000 We release cartoons every week, usually twice a week.

00:02:43.000 We're actually not releasing a video tomorrow.

00:02:45.000 We decided to push it off till Tuesday because I think that'll give us more time to really improve the quality of what we're working on.

00:02:52.000 I also have a podcast called Shamer, which we will be airing tomorrow on Rumble at 6 p.m.

00:02:57.000 Eastern.

00:02:59.000 Hello everybody!

00:03:00.000 I am Phil Lamonte.

00:03:00.000 I'm the lead singer of All That Remains.

00:03:02.000 I am an anti-communist and I am a counter-revolutionary and we are here with And I am Serge.com.

00:03:09.000 Rest in peace, Tina Turner.

00:03:10.000 I had to say that.

00:03:11.000 Amen.

00:03:12.000 And yeah, let's get started.

00:03:13.000 Alright, here's the official story from the Daily Mail.

00:03:16.000 Biggest fail in campaign launches in history.

00:03:20.000 Ron DeSantis is mocked for shambolic Twitter room presidential announcement with Elon Musk that crashes five times and leaves users bamboozled.

00:03:28.000 Yeah, it was around six o'clock, a few minutes before six, I get that notification because Elon is about to start this Twitter space.

00:03:34.000 We're really excited to hear this.

00:03:35.000 I was really excited to hear it.

00:03:37.000 And it started late, and then wasn't working.

00:03:40.000 And a lot of people, man, I gotta tell you, I like Elon Musk, he does great work.

00:03:45.000 I like Ron DeSantis, he does great work, but I am not going to pull punches on this one.

00:03:50.000 The obvious mistakes they were making, they did not properly plan for this.

00:03:55.000 I have no idea how it came off so bad.

00:03:57.000 For one, I understand if there's more people than you expect, but this is a presidential announcement.

00:04:02.000 Getting hundreds of thousands of people was obvious.

00:04:05.000 When we had Steven Crowder on this show, we had about 200,000 viewers.

00:04:10.000 Now, if you're going to have Ron DeSantis and Elon Musk, you've got to prepare for that.

00:04:15.000 I presume they did to the best of their abilities, but Twitter wasn't able to handle it.

00:04:18.000 But here's the thing.

00:04:19.000 A lot of people were saying, oh, you know, the servers were overloading.

00:04:22.000 I understand that happens.

00:04:24.000 No, no, no, no.

00:04:25.000 Look, some of the problem was, like the main host guy was like, he muted himself randomly.

00:04:30.000 And I don't think he noticed he was talking in the mid-sentence, just mute.

00:04:33.000 And then Elon unmuted himself while the guy was talking.

00:04:35.000 So you got an echo because they were sitting next to each other.

00:04:37.000 I'm like, dude, those are production mistakes, not technical errors.

00:04:42.000 And if this was done on YouTube, it probably would have had substantially more live viewers.

00:04:49.000 I think... I think this is going for a big bang gimmick.

00:04:53.000 We'll do this on Twitter Spaces with Elon.

00:04:55.000 It's huge for us, but they weren't ready for it, and it really pulled a lot of the wind out of their sails.

00:04:59.000 Now, there's a lot of things we can talk about in terms of Ron DeSantis as a candidate, but, you know, what do you guys think?

00:05:06.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

00:05:07.000 These are technical problems that should have been sorted out long ahead of time.

00:05:11.000 It's kind of perplexing whenever you see a massive campaign that's well-funded and has a lot of backing behind it fail at something so basic.

00:05:21.000 I mean, it happens to the best of us.

00:05:22.000 Everybody makes mistakes, but it's just such a lost opportunity.

00:05:27.000 I heard that it was Because they were using Musk's account, because he has so many followers, that caused an issue.

00:05:35.000 I don't know how true that is, it's just something I read.

00:05:38.000 So I don't know if it's true.

00:05:39.000 It shouldn't matter.

00:05:41.000 Right, it shouldn't matter.

00:05:41.000 I mean, again, if they just did it on YouTube, they'd have a million plus viewers and it would have run fine.

00:05:46.000 Yeah, totally.

00:05:47.000 Or Rumble!

00:05:48.000 This was almost Klobuchar Blizzard level, right?

00:05:52.000 Let's be real.

00:05:54.000 Klobuchar Blizzard level.

00:05:56.000 It was near that, but yeah, they should have been prepared.

00:05:59.000 There's no question about it.

00:06:01.000 Now they're getting roasted. 1.00

00:06:02.000 It is funny, though, that at first the media was like, oh, it's stupid. 1.00

00:06:05.000 It's going to fizzle. 0.99

00:06:07.000 Then it got so much attention that it crashed.

00:06:09.000 It's a lot of people, man, don't get me wrong.

00:06:11.000 I think that it would have been a good thing had it gone properly.

00:06:16.000 I think that the fact that DeSantis has totally been ignoring the legacy media, I think that's a good thing.

00:06:26.000 I also think that it's good because it kind of puts the legacy media on notice.

00:06:31.000 Obviously when you've got, you know, Organizations like Vanity Fair running that headline they did where they say that they should have brought David Duke or whatever.

00:06:41.000 I was dying. 0.81

00:06:42.000 It's ridiculous, of course. 0.73

00:06:45.000 And the overall tone from the establishment media, the legacy media, is... 0.98

00:06:50.000 You know, ridiculous. 0.99

00:06:52.000 So for conservatives to go to them and even present an opportunity for them to cover is almost silly, because you know they're gonna say, oh, well, you're just a racist Nazi, huh? 1.00

00:07:03.000 So there's no reason to talk to them. 0.52

00:07:05.000 When the Twitter space got to around 460,000 people, it was crashing.

00:07:08.000 It was crashing well before that.

00:07:10.000 But I got in right when it started, and then rapidly it rises.

00:07:15.000 I tweeted out, looks like 460K might be the limit.

00:07:18.000 This Twitter user, LoftyPixels, responded, YouTube had 750,000 live viewers for PlayStation Showcase today, LOL.

00:07:24.000 And posted this video from PlayStation that had no problem with this.

00:07:28.000 Let me show you some of the reactions we got.

00:07:30.000 We've got Donald Trump Jr.

00:07:32.000 saying, hashtag disaster.

00:07:35.000 Yikes, man.

00:07:36.000 Just give him ammunition.

00:07:38.000 That's a hashtag.

00:07:40.000 That's better than desanctimonious.

00:07:42.000 Way better.

00:07:44.000 Seriously, way better.

00:07:44.000 And that's Trump Jr.

00:07:46.000 And then I think I got one more.

00:07:47.000 David Wolf tweets, failure to launch crashed.

00:07:47.000 Here we go.

00:07:51.000 Ron DeSantis 2024.

00:07:52.000 And sad faces from Ron and Elon.

00:07:54.000 Looks kind of like CGI.

00:07:57.000 Yeah, it looks a little AI, right?

00:07:59.000 Well, I mean, there they're taking, you know, they're not just taking a swing at DeSantis, they're taking a swing at Musk because of the Twitter thing and the whole rocket crashing, you know, making the link to SpaceX and stuff, you know.

00:08:09.000 Well, you brought up something interesting.

00:08:10.000 I think it might have screwed up everything if it was Elon's account that screwed everything up and it switched over to David Sachs.

00:08:18.000 That's what I heard.

00:08:18.000 It changed the whole vibe of the whole thing where it wasn't like Elon asking DeSantis questions.

00:08:24.000 It became like David Sachs.

00:08:26.000 I got in the middle of it.

00:08:27.000 When it first launched, Elon was the host.

00:08:30.000 Then I think Sax joined, and they both had speaking privileges.

00:08:35.000 And one of the technical problems was that while Sax was speaking, Elon unmuted his phone, and they're sitting next to each other, so you start hearing a feedback loop.

00:08:43.000 That's the boomer stuff.

00:08:45.000 But for Elon to do that?

00:08:47.000 Why did you unmute your account?

00:08:49.000 What are you doing here, man?

00:08:50.000 Well, then it became David Sax asking all the questions.

00:08:52.000 No, but it was supposed to be.

00:08:53.000 And it wasn't supposed to be, right?

00:08:54.000 No, it was supposed to be.

00:08:55.000 Oh, it was supposed to be.

00:08:56.000 I mean, look, they might say, oh, it was supposed to be Elon.

00:08:59.000 I don't see that.

00:09:00.000 Why bring in Sachs at all?

00:09:01.000 He was brought in before DeSantis.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:03.000 So what is he, like a British journalist or something?

00:09:06.000 No, I mean, he was the CEO of PayPal, I think.

00:09:09.000 Oh, OK, OK.

00:09:09.000 So they're buts.

00:09:10.000 But I mean, the whole thing was sold as like Elon asking the questions, right?

00:09:15.000 Like, even like we were going to the war room.

00:09:17.000 Elon hosting a space.

00:09:19.000 Yeah, it was supposed to be like the Elon interview type thing, and it didn't really happen.

00:09:24.000 Yeah, it didn't really happen.

00:09:27.000 It was just like softball city.

00:09:28.000 And then after the crash, it was just not good.

00:09:33.000 I mean, a lot of people left.

00:09:36.000 That took a lot of wind out of their sails.

00:09:38.000 I mentioned it yesterday.

00:09:39.000 Dude, yesterday we wanted to lead the show off with the Target story, because now it's getting crazier.

00:09:44.000 Target is, apparently the CEO issued a statement saying, yeah, we're going to get rid of a bunch of stuff, but we're going to double down.

00:09:49.000 Basically saying, we're going to try and hide this from the general public.

00:09:51.000 But instead, I'm like, okay, they basically released this launch video, so we have to cover it.

00:09:55.000 But then what is there to cover today if not just the same thing we already know?

00:09:59.000 Okay, dude's running for president.

00:10:01.000 Then, of course, we got lucky in that they failed.

00:10:03.000 It's a little mean.

00:10:06.000 They did do the space.

00:10:08.000 They did get the message out.

00:10:09.000 They did get the announcement.

00:10:10.000 But I do feel like we got news out of the fact that they kind of screwed up the launch and they lost the majority of the audience that was ready for this announcement.

00:10:19.000 But it was like a snooze fest.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, it was this news... I mean, like, you got in there, and you're like, wow, there's nothing interesting here.

00:10:25.000 You gotta come with some... Well, I mean, think about it.

00:10:28.000 I left relatively quickly.

00:10:28.000 No bangers.

00:10:30.000 The only news that was there was it being done on a space.

00:10:34.000 Everyone knew that DeSantis was gonna run.

00:10:37.000 DeSantis didn't have anything, there was no pizzazz to his actual speech or anything.

00:10:43.000 So it really was, the interesting thing was the fact that it was on Twitter for the first time and then it went bad.

00:10:49.000 They ruined it!

00:10:50.000 Could you imagine if Elon abruptly launched to space and then said, Ron DeSantis is making a big announcement?

00:10:56.000 That would have crashed all of Twitter way faster than this would have.

00:10:59.000 So maybe they're trying to avoid that.

00:11:02.000 Even in that regard, DeSantis really screwed this one up, his campaign.

00:11:08.000 Because they could've gone on Rumble, and they could've done it with Dan Bongino, and that would've held up just fine.

00:11:13.000 But he was like, ooh, Elon Musk, he's big, we're gonna go for this.

00:11:15.000 If he abruptly appeared on a livestream with Dan Bongino, And Dan was like, I'm being joined by Ron.

00:11:21.000 I don't know if Dan would want to do that because he's more of a Trump guy anyway.

00:11:24.000 But if Ron did a show, any live stream, and they tweeted out, Ron DeSantis is here and he's about to make an announcement, you'd get 2 million live viewers.

00:11:32.000 Instead, they were like, let's announce it, announce exactly what we're gonna announce, and then have it crash.

00:11:37.000 And it's just like...

00:11:38.000 They end up with 190,000 or some odd people listening when Ron DeSantis makes his presidential announcement.

00:11:44.000 And I was just like, it's good, but for a presidential announcement?

00:11:48.000 We had Stephen Crowder in here in January and we cracked that number.

00:11:48.000 Come on, dude.

00:11:51.000 And he didn't even announce he was running for president, right?

00:11:53.000 Yeah, no, he was just complaining.

00:11:54.000 He was just complaining about internet drama.

00:11:56.000 His internet drama.

00:11:57.000 PlayStation, like I mentioned, did a showcase of video games at 757,000 people.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, he should have maybe saved this Elon moment for something that was like really newsworthy.

00:12:03.000 That's brutal, man.

00:12:09.000 You know, like a big deal, like something like the Steven Crowder moment, right?

00:12:13.000 Like where everybody's paying attention and they're hanging on every word.

00:12:17.000 They could have saved this for something big at the right moment to drop during the campaign, I feel like.

00:12:23.000 Yeah.

00:12:24.000 I don't know if this was the moment.

00:12:25.000 I don't know if this was like, everybody knew it was coming.

00:12:27.000 It's like, they brought nothing to the table!

00:12:29.000 It's a bad start.

00:12:30.000 Yeah, I mean, do you think it was just an effort to associate himself with Elon because Elon is not necessarily on the right or left but the radical left really hates him and the establishment is trying to fight him or vice versa?

00:12:42.000 I don't know, man.

00:12:43.000 I don't know.

00:12:44.000 I think what's interesting out of this is Trump versus Elon.

00:12:47.000 I think that's a more interesting dynamic.

00:12:49.000 I think this is going to be like, I think Trump's going to attack Elon more than he's going to attack anybody else.

00:12:54.000 Why Elon?

00:12:57.000 He attacks Elon all the time.

00:12:59.000 I don't see how that's good in any way.

00:13:02.000 For him?

00:13:04.000 I just think it's interesting.

00:13:04.000 I don't think so either.

00:13:06.000 It's going to be interesting to see him attack Elon coming out of this thing.

00:13:11.000 You know who he reminds me of a little bit?

00:13:13.000 I don't know if you guys know Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

00:13:16.000 Sheriff Joe in Phoenix, where I'm from, remembers every single person that wronged him ever.

00:13:22.000 And puts him on a list and attacks that.

00:13:25.000 No, no, no.

00:13:26.000 Daylights out of him.

00:13:28.000 Trump doesn't do that.

00:13:29.000 Trump attacks you only until you're nice to him.

00:13:32.000 As soon as you're nice to him, then he's buddies with you.

00:13:35.000 Trump is as deep as... Lion Ted to Lion Ted.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, I mean, come on.

00:13:40.000 We'll see if Elon brings her out.

00:13:41.000 You can be pro-Trump and still be honest.

00:13:44.000 The guy has no principle.

00:13:46.000 His principle is winning.

00:13:47.000 He's saying, tiny Ron DeSantis.

00:13:50.000 After the primary, he's going to say, titan Ron DeSantis.

00:13:52.000 Exactly.

00:13:53.000 He's a big man.

00:13:55.000 He's a big man.

00:13:55.000 You know, we all love him.

00:13:56.000 He's a big supporter.

00:13:57.000 He's a big, you know.

00:13:58.000 You know, we had that thing where the primary buddy came around.

00:13:58.000 Always was.

00:14:00.000 Yeah.

00:14:01.000 Well, this is one of the things Trump really understands about politics very well.

00:14:06.000 You know, so many people in media will lampoon him for that kind of behavior.

00:14:11.000 The fact that he'll just do a complete 180 on a person.

00:14:13.000 And I agree, there's something there that's laughable, but the media does that constantly.

00:14:17.000 They're equally shameless.

00:14:20.000 Bill Krispel, I think, called Trump an alpha today, or yesterday. 0.89

00:14:23.000 It's so typical.

00:14:25.000 What they'll also do is, you know, they will forward a narrative, that narrative will be completely disproven, and then they'll just jump to something else, or sometimes they'll jump to a different narrative, which is completely contradictory to what they were stating their goals are when representing the other narrative.

00:14:40.000 So, The media will take advantage of the American people having this short attention span and not considering how current statements line up against past statements, and then they'll laugh at Trump for doing the exact same thing.

00:14:53.000 Let's do it.

00:14:54.000 We're going to play the announcement for you.

00:14:56.000 I guess it's seven minutes long.

00:14:58.000 And before I start, I just want to mention we have a super chat.

00:15:02.000 I understand that you may have an announcement to make.

00:15:03.000 where we at, who said it?

00:15:05.000 BeagleCakes says, I don't know who has more charisma, 1.00

00:15:09.000 Mark Zuckerberg or Ron DeSantis.

00:15:12.000 So I mean, it's a little biased start, but let's just play the video for you.

00:15:15.000 Zuckerberg, because he can roll jiu-jitsu.

00:15:17.000 I understand that you may have an announcement to make.

00:15:20.000 We've got, I think, a record audience assembled here.

00:15:23.000 You know, probably the biggest room that's probably ever been assembled online.

00:15:30.000 What would you like... That was such a sad statement.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 There's 102 people listening.

00:15:35.000 102,000.

00:15:36.000 And is it probably the biggest online, what do you say, ever?

00:15:39.000 Assembled here, you know, probably the biggest room that's probably ever been assembled online.

00:15:47.000 What would you like to tell them?

00:15:51.000 Well, I am running for President of the United States to lead our great American combat.

00:15:58.000 Look, we know our country's going in the wrong direction.

00:16:00.000 We see it with our eyes and we feel it in our bones.

00:16:03.000 Our southern borders collapsed.

00:16:05.000 Drugs are pouring into the country.

00:16:07.000 Our cities are being hollowed out by spiking crime.

00:16:10.000 The federal government's making it harder for the average family to make ends meet and to attain and maintain a middle class lifestyle.

00:16:17.000 And our president Well, he lacks vigor, flounders in the face of our nation's challenges, and he takes his cues from the woke mob.

00:16:25.000 I don't think it has to be this way.

00:16:27.000 American decline is not inevitable.

00:16:29.000 It is a choice.

00:16:31.000 And we should choose a new direction, a path that will lead to American revitalization.

00:16:36.000 We must restore sanity to our nation.

00:16:40.000 This means embracing fiscal and economic sanity.

00:16:42.000 Stop pricing hardworking Americans out of a good standard of living.

00:16:46.000 through inflationary borrow print and spending policies, and please embrace American energy independence.

00:16:52.000 This also means replacing the woke mind virus with reality, facts, and enduring principles.

00:16:59.000 Merit must trump identity politics.

00:17:02.000 We must return normalcy to our communities.

00:17:05.000 America is a sovereign country.

00:17:07.000 Our borders must be respected.

00:17:10.000 We cannot have foreigners pouring into our country illegally by the millions. 1.00

00:17:14.000 We cannot allow drug cartels to poison our population with fentanyl.

00:17:19.000 Public deserves safe communities and law and order must be maintained in American cities.

00:17:24.000 We can't have inmates running the asylum.

00:17:27.000 We must reject attacks on the men and women of law enforcement.

00:17:32.000 We also must reestablish integrity in our institutions.

00:17:36.000 This includes the military.

00:17:37.000 I'm proud to be a Navy veteran, an Iraq veteran, and I revere our services.

00:17:42.000 But when revered institutions like those in our military are more concerned with matters not central to the mission, whether it's global warming or gender ideology and pronouns, Morale declines and recruiting suffers.

00:17:55.000 You need to eliminate these distractions and we need to get focused on the core mission.

00:17:59.000 We also cannot have true constitutional government if the most significant issues are decided by the whims of unelected bureaucrats rather than the people's elected representatives.

00:18:09.000 Re-establishing integrity in our institutions means we must reinvigorate our constitutional system by returning the government to its rightful owners It's still going.

00:18:22.000 Oh my gosh, it's only been two minutes and fifty seconds?

00:18:23.000 come on without representation truth needs to be our foundation oh my gosh

00:18:29.000 it's only been two minutes and seconds you and in Florida we prove we chose

00:18:34.000 facts over fear run this nation over indoctrination law and order over

00:18:39.000 rioting and disorder we the words are great when right The words are great.

00:18:45.000 The delivery.

00:18:46.000 But it's like an AI saying it.

00:18:47.000 Exactly.

00:18:48.000 It's not even like an AI.

00:18:49.000 It's like a text-to-speech, like Microsoft Sam.

00:18:51.000 To be fair, AI probably would have had more inflection.

00:18:53.000 ... recently ranked number one in education.

00:18:57.000 We have a 50-year low crime rate and one of the lowest tax and debt per capita in America.

00:19:03.000 But we also understand governing is not...

00:19:05.000 He needed a role model.

00:19:06.000 That's just wrong.

00:19:06.000 a brand or virtue signaling.

00:19:08.000 He needs it.

00:19:09.000 It is about delivering.

00:19:10.000 That's just wrong.

00:19:10.000 He's all in our results in Florida have been second to none.

00:19:14.000 We can and we must deliver big results for America.

00:19:19.000 I pledge to be an energetic executive that will take that woke me up.

00:19:24.000 Biden's great.

00:19:25.000 That was great.

00:19:26.000 Policies that are hurting working people.

00:19:28.000 We will reverse those policies and we'll build an economy where working Americans can achieve

00:19:33.000 a good standard of living.

00:19:35.000 Biden's opened the southern border and allowed massive amounts of drugs to pour into the

00:19:39.000 country.

00:19:40.000 We'll shut down the border, construct a border wall and hold the drug cartels accountable.

00:19:46.000 How much time has it been, Tim?

00:19:47.000 Halfway.

00:19:47.000 authoritarianism such as unconstitutional covid vax mandates we will ensure that those violations of

00:19:53.000 liberty can never happen again biden's allowed woke ideology to drive his agenda we will never

00:20:00.000 surrender to the woke mob and we will leave woke ideology in the dustbin of history come on biden's

00:20:07.000 also politicized the military recruiting to plummet we will eliminate ideological agendas

00:20:12.000 from our military focus the military on the core mission and we will reverse the poor recruiting

00:20:19.000 trends finally biden's weaponized the power of the administrative state this is a cruel

00:20:23.000 unusual left-wing agenda we will reconstitutionalize the executive branch and we'll bring the

00:20:30.000 administrative state to heal now you can't do any of that if you don't win

00:20:35.000 There is no substitute for victory.

00:20:37.000 We must end the culture of losing that has infected the Republican Party in recent years.

00:20:43.000 The tired dogmas of the past are inadequate for a vibrant future.

00:20:47.000 We must look forward, not backwards.

00:20:50.000 We need the courage to lead, and we must have the strength to win.

00:20:54.000 And to voters who are participating in this primary process, my pledge to you is this.

00:21:00.000 If you nominate me, You can set your clock to January 20th, 2025 at high noon, because on the West side of the U.S.

00:21:08.000 Capitol, I will be taking the oath of office as the 47th President of the United States.

00:21:14.000 No excuses.

00:21:16.000 I will get the job done.

00:21:18.000 Now, these past few years have given me a new appreciation for the fragility of our freedoms.

00:21:23.000 I never thought I would see things in America that we saw during the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:21:28.000 But our founding fathers were keenly aware of the fragility of freedom.

00:21:32.000 When they framed our Constitution, they came to arm with having studied the history of every republic and the history of mankind.

00:21:38.000 And they noticed that all of those experiments only had one thing in common, and it was this.

00:21:43.000 Every single one of them had failed.

00:21:46.000 And so they knew it fell to our country, the United States of America, to determine whether people could really govern themselves.

00:21:52.000 Could we have a society based on the idea that our rights are God-given, not government-granted, and that society functions based on the rule of law, not the rule of individual men?

00:22:01.000 And when Dr. Benjamin Franklin walked out of that convention, he was asked, did you deliver a republic or a monarchy?

00:22:08.000 He said, a republic if you can keep it.

00:22:11.000 They knew freedom didn't run on autopilot.

00:22:12.000 I like the emphasis on you.

00:22:13.000 You're the only thing he emphasized.

00:22:15.000 It's our responsibility to safeguard freedom, and it's our responsibility to do so at this important juncture in our nation's history.

00:22:22.000 We have a lot of work to do to ensure the country gets back on track.

00:22:26.000 I ask everybody listening to please join me on this mission.

00:22:30.000 Please invest in our campaign by going to rondesantis.com and making a donation.

00:22:36.000 Thank you, God bless, and I look forward to the discussion.

00:22:39.000 Oh, I don't know what he does.

00:22:41.000 Look, I really want to turn it off, but it's like a presidential announcement, so I thought,

00:22:46.000 for the sake of hearing it, people need to be able to hear it.

00:22:49.000 But dude, I couldn't believe it when he got to the part about a republic if you can keep

00:22:54.000 it.

00:22:55.000 I'm like, listen, man, I like Rhonda Sanders as a politician. 0.95

00:22:57.000 He has great policies, doing a great job. 0.97

00:22:59.000 But holy crap, did they not give this guy one minute of media training? 0.96

00:23:03.000 Did they not have any kind of campaign coach be like, go watch Captain America one time. 0.98

00:23:11.000 And just watch any Hollywood movie where the protagonist gives a speech about saving the world.

00:23:16.000 Just that.

00:23:17.000 In fact, watch SNL as they mock that.

00:23:20.000 Look, man.

00:23:21.000 The DeSantis people are probably going to get mad because they like him, but I'm not pulling punches.

00:23:25.000 I like Elon, I like DeSantis, but that had negative charisma.

00:23:28.000 Negative.

00:23:29.000 I agree.

00:23:30.000 Look, I like DeSantis a lot.

00:23:32.000 I think everything he was saying there was spot on.

00:23:34.000 Every single word.

00:23:36.000 But I'll be honest, I was literally bored to tears.

00:23:38.000 I mean, it's remarkable to me that someone who said so many things that were so true, that would have gotten a standing ovation from any group of conservatives who are outside of the establishment, where they just delivered with a little bit More energy could be so boring when addressed in such a plain, monotone way.

00:23:56.000 I think that, you're right, he needs media training.

00:23:58.000 Again, I'm not trying to be harsh on the guy.

00:24:01.000 There's a lot about DeSantis which is really, really great.

00:24:05.000 He has to fix this.

00:24:06.000 He has to fix this.

00:24:08.000 Guys, I really don't want to play this video for you.

00:24:11.000 Because it's just, I don't think Ron DeSantis has the personality for being president.

00:24:19.000 But for the sake of just letting you guys watch it for yourselves, this is Rhonda Santis' tweeted out official announcement video.

00:24:27.000 Our border is a disaster.

00:24:29.000 Crime infests our cities.

00:24:31.000 The federal government makes it harder for families to make ends meet.

00:24:35.000 And the president flounders.

00:24:37.000 But decline is a choice.

00:24:39.000 Success is attainable.

00:24:41.000 And freedom is worth fighting for.

00:24:44.000 Riding the ship requires restoring sanity to our society, normalcy to our communities, and integrity to our institutions.

00:24:55.000 Truth must be our foundation, and common sense can no longer be an uncommon virtue.

00:25:03.000 In Florida, we proved that it can be done.

00:25:06.000 The music's bad.

00:25:06.000 We chose facts over fear, education over indoctrination, law and order over rioting and disorder.

00:25:14.000 We held the line when freedom hung in the balance.

00:25:17.000 We showed that we can and must revitalize America.

00:25:22.000 We need the courage to lead and the strength to win.

00:25:25.000 I'm Ron DeSantis and I'm running for president to lead our great American comeback.

00:25:34.000 I'm gonna say something shockingly offensive to all DeSantis' fans.

00:25:37.000 Oh boy.

00:25:38.000 Joe Biden's got better presence and presentation than Ron DeSantis does.

00:25:42.000 Now, now, hold on there a minute. 0.99

00:25:43.000 Before you freak out, Joe Biden does have a mental affliction. 0.99

00:25:47.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:25:47.000 Which gives Joe Biden the major lead. 0.98

00:25:48.000 Makes it entertaining.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, it makes it entertaining.

00:25:50.000 When Biden says, Bada kaf kare, chunana shabba da pressure, okay, like, we get it. 0.99

00:25:54.000 That's incomprehensible, mumbled garbage. 0.98

00:25:56.000 But at the very least, let me play a little bit for you. 0.98

00:25:59.000 Sanity to our society, normalcy to our communities, and integrity to our institutions.

00:26:08.000 Truth must be our foundation.

00:26:11.000 Now imagine how Joe Biden would deliver that.

00:26:13.000 Yeah.

00:26:13.000 We gotta bring some integrity!

00:26:16.000 Some truth!

00:26:20.000 I think I mentioned this before the show, but I think DeSantis needs to be able to announce that he's running for president with at least the same amount of energy that Joe Biden announced he had hairy legs with.

00:26:28.000 Seriously.

00:26:29.000 I mean, we need some actual spirit behind these statements.

00:26:33.000 I got hairy legs!

00:26:34.000 I got hairy legs!

00:26:35.000 Like, he meant it!

00:26:36.000 I was like, I believe you!

00:26:37.000 I believe you, Joe! 0.99

00:26:38.000 You're super weird, you're very creepy, but I do believe your legs are hairy! 0.97

00:26:42.000 Okay, there's some level of enthusiasm you need, and part of the reason that this is So difficult for people is because DeSantis and Trump, even though they're rivals, they've been associated with each other in many ways, right? 0.98

00:26:56.000 The establishment has smeared DeSantis in somewhat similar ways to the ways they smeared Trump.

00:27:02.000 Before they started running against each other, their bases were similar.

00:27:05.000 But the thing you got to remember is Trump was an outsider.

00:27:09.000 DeSantis is a politician, even though he's not in line with the establishment on many of the things that They want him to be in line with them on.

00:27:16.000 He's still a politician and he has that boring political way of speaking and I would go as far as to say it's actually worse for him than it is a lot of other politicians.

00:27:30.000 So part of it is we have this expectation sent by Trump that we should have a leader who's really going to be charismatic and energetic.

00:27:37.000 And also the fact that DeSantis is even more boring than most other politicians are when he speaks, even though I like what the guy does, even though he's very much impressed me.

00:27:47.000 I mean, one of the things he said earlier on, quite a long time ago, is that he didn't want to be in a political foxhole with anyone who wasn't pro-life.

00:27:53.000 I think that's fantastic.

00:27:55.000 I mean, I think that is fantastic.

00:27:56.000 There's a lot he does that's phenomenal.

00:27:57.000 But man, you gotta tune the energy up, man.

00:28:01.000 Turn the energy up.

00:28:02.000 So I have his quote.

00:28:05.000 He said, but we know our country's going in the wrong direction.

00:28:07.000 We see it with our own eyes and we feel it in our bones.

00:28:09.000 I am running for president of the United States to lead our great American comeback.

00:28:14.000 If you were to imagine Joe Biden saying that, he'd say something like, but we know our country's going in the wrong direction.

00:28:20.000 We see it with our own eyes.

00:28:21.000 Come on, man.

00:28:22.000 We feel it in our bones.

00:28:24.000 Rather, he'd probably say, we feel it in our bigums.

00:28:26.000 Yeah, he would say something wrong.

00:28:27.000 I don't know what that word is, but I'm not trying to say that Joe Biden conveys ideas properly.

00:28:32.000 No.

00:28:32.000 But the emotions in those ideas.

00:28:34.000 He's been doing it a lot longer.

00:28:35.000 He has a lot of big feelings.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, good old Joe has a lot of big feelings.

00:28:38.000 Running big events, we run some of the biggest events at Turning Point, and shout out, we just announced that Trump's going to be speaking at our big action conference on July 15th and 16th at West Palm Beach.

00:28:48.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 right before this, but doing this, I think what was the weird part

00:28:51.000 about this whole announcement is you have to warm up the speaker.

00:28:55.000 They should have treated this whole thing like it was he was going on stage.

00:28:58.000 I mean, they had a video of him going on a big stage.

00:29:00.000 It's him in front of a flag without cheering, all of the back, none of it felt like

00:29:05.000 there was a big crowd there.

00:29:06.000 So they're showing this video of him solo in front of a flag, and they're on Twitter spaces,

00:29:12.000 and he came in cold after a technical difficulty.

00:29:15.000 Why didn't they have a whole program where it was like, warm-up speakers, get the crowd hyped, add to the... They should have built the thing up to be hundreds of thousands of followers.

00:29:25.000 I would bet anything that that...

00:29:28.000 exact video would have been fine if they didn't use pensive staccato violins.

00:29:34.000 Yes.

00:29:34.000 If they'd have had better music that actually had some impact.

00:29:38.000 I'm telling you, I am telling you.

00:29:40.000 I think the visual of him just like alone though.

00:29:43.000 I guarantee that music was pensive.

00:29:46.000 That made people feel anxiety.

00:29:49.000 It didn't feel epic.

00:29:50.000 Like seriously, that kind of picking, absolutely!

00:29:52.000 No, no, no, look, look.

00:29:52.000 I think the music is fine, but not with this presentation.

00:29:55.000 I think the presentation could work if it had better music.

00:29:58.000 You get this really intense BOOM!

00:30:00.000 RING!

00:30:00.000 DING!

00:30:01.000 DING!

00:30:01.000 And he's going, we've gotta have truth in our nation!

00:30:04.000 It's like, they do not go together.

00:30:06.000 Let me point out this one piece. 1.00

00:30:08.000 You're not able to see him on this Twitter space, which I think is so stupid. 0.98

00:30:14.000 This isn't the early 20th century. 0.97

00:30:17.000 You can't see the guy.

00:30:19.000 This is basically like radio.

00:30:20.000 He's basically an FDR. 0.59

00:30:24.000 He couldn't walk.

00:30:25.000 Maybe he couldn't walk.

00:30:25.000 Maybe he didn't have functioning legs.

00:30:27.000 We wouldn't know.

00:30:28.000 With him, he's using this medium that nobody can see him with a video.

00:30:33.000 They should have built this whole thing where it was like his whole production.

00:30:35.000 They've had months and months and months and months where it's like he's in a room with a lot of people.

00:30:40.000 Why can't you do this whole thing in a room with a lot of people?

00:30:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:44.000 No, I mean, it's a good point.

00:30:45.000 I think you were absolutely spot-on when you said there should have been an audience there.

00:30:48.000 There should have been people cheering for him.

00:30:48.000 Energy!

00:30:49.000 Energy!

00:30:50.000 A warm-up act, yeah.

00:30:51.000 I'm actually... but this is sort of what I'm saying, right?

00:30:55.000 It's remarkable to me when something with so much money and power behind it is done so poorly.

00:31:00.000 I mean, these are really basic things.

00:31:02.000 You don't have to be an expert political analyst to know that those things would have helped him.

00:31:07.000 And not just that they would have helped him, but that they're kind of bare necessities.

00:31:11.000 I just, I would've thought they would've at least had some kind of general media training, and what gets me is, that was their finished product.

00:31:19.000 That was them saying, we got it, did we get it?

00:31:21.000 We got it, we're good, we're good.

00:31:22.000 Ron, that was excellent.

00:31:23.000 High five.

00:31:24.000 Yeah, like when we watch these Biden videos, and they're jump cutting like crazy, because you know the dude is completely incapable of speaking at this point.

00:31:32.000 You watch that, and I'm just thinking to myself, they rapped, they went through the edit and said, guys, this is it.

00:31:40.000 They could have called him back in and said, hey, Ron, we really need to have a coach here who's going to tell you how to say these lines.

00:31:45.000 So like, for instance, when I'm doing, uh, Seamus will ask me to read some lines from Freedom Tunes.

00:31:49.000 He's got to be able to tell me how to do the lines because it might say something like, oh boy, I'm going to go buy an ice cream cone.

00:31:56.000 And then I say, oh boy, I'm going to buy an ice cream cone.

00:31:57.000 And then Seamus will be like, no, say, oh boy!

00:31:59.000 I'm gonna go buy an ice cream cone.

00:32:00.000 Like, you gotta say it short here.

00:32:02.000 Like, you need direction.

00:32:03.000 He didn't have it.

00:32:04.000 When I'm recording, like we're doing a record or whatever, there's three things that the producer's gonna tell me.

00:32:10.000 He's gonna tell me either my timing's bad, he's gonna tell me my notes are bad, or he's gonna tell me I don't believe it.

00:32:15.000 You gotta believe it.

00:32:17.000 You have to be performing.

00:32:18.000 If you're up there and you're talking to a crowd, you need the crowd to believe what you're saying.

00:32:24.000 They need to believe that you believe it.

00:32:25.000 That's the first thing.

00:32:27.000 You have to believe it.

00:32:28.000 You have to tell them that you believe it.

00:32:32.000 And this is why Trump basically always crushes, right?

00:32:35.000 Because he always, always sells that he believes it.

00:32:38.000 This is why he can get away with going on television and saying something completely different than he said a few days ago about a particular person.

00:32:44.000 Because he believes it both times!

00:32:46.000 He believes it!

00:32:47.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:32:48.000 He's really in it.

00:32:49.000 People likely shows up and just starts talking.

00:32:51.000 Yeah.

00:32:52.000 There's a weird element to that that people like.

00:32:54.000 They've liked since day one.

00:32:56.000 And that's what lit a fire under people to be like, oh, you know what?

00:32:59.000 I don't like Ted Cruz anymore.

00:33:00.000 I like Donald Trump.

00:33:01.000 That's what happened in 2016.

00:33:03.000 So the Trump camp released a video exactly at the moment, I guess, the Twitter space crashed.

00:33:09.000 Yeah.

00:33:10.000 So I want to play this for you guys.

00:33:13.000 This contrasts the Trump campaign with the DeSantis campaign at the same time that he was launching.

00:33:18.000 The Washington-established politicians like to talk about how they can be just like Donald Trump.

00:33:25.000 The truth?

00:33:27.000 There's only one Donald Trump.

00:33:31.000 Only one who gave us the largest tax cuts in history.

00:33:35.000 Who gave vets the health care they deserve.

00:33:38.000 And stood up to China. 0.78

00:33:40.000 And protected your job.

00:33:42.000 Only one who kept us out of endless wars while destroying our terrorist enemies. 0.58

00:33:48.000 only one, who fundamentally changed the Supreme Court, was called the most pro-life president in history, and relentlessly

00:33:57.000 protected our Second Amendment rights, and our borders, Why would we ever settle for Trump imposters?

00:34:04.000 Make America Great Again!

00:34:07.000 When there's only one, starting day one, who can make America great again.

00:34:15.000 I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.

00:34:17.000 Look how like very epic this video is.

00:34:20.000 This is not an announcement.

00:34:21.000 When Trump made his announcement earlier, it was a lot lower energy, but still better than DeSantis.

00:34:26.000 Now, I'd like to play for you a DeSantis War Room clip released just about 45 minutes ago.

00:34:32.000 And here it is.

00:34:34.000 One second, if you remember that music that Trump did.

00:34:37.000 I'm sorry.

00:34:38.000 The music that Trump had.

00:34:39.000 We need an honest reckoning about what happened during COVID.

00:34:44.000 And the only honest reckoning is that all of those agencies, all of the elites, the

00:34:49.000 public health establishment, they failed.

00:34:52.000 They instituted bad policies.

00:34:56.000 Why is Elon Musk in this?

00:34:58.000 What is this video?

00:35:00.000 This is the weirdest War Room post I've ever seen of anyone's War Room in the history of War Rooms.

00:35:05.000 This is crazy.

00:35:09.000 When that space happened and I got my phone open and I'm sitting in my living room and I'm like, alright, let's hear it.

00:35:14.000 I just went, no.

00:35:15.000 They're disconnected.

00:35:16.000 Are you kidding me?

00:35:18.000 So a lot of people, I see one super chat, you know, people are saying like, well, but what about the policies?

00:35:22.000 We know the policies are good.

00:35:23.000 We've repeatedly said, run to Texas, great policies.

00:35:26.000 But did Barack Obama get elected on policy?

00:35:29.000 Did Donald Trump get elected on policy?

00:35:31.000 Sort of.

00:35:32.000 Donald Trump gets elected by being authentic, by going on stage. 0.99

00:35:35.000 And when Megyn Kelly tries calling him out and saying, you call women fat pigs. 0.99

00:35:39.000 Did he go, well, no, you're mistaken. 0.99

00:35:41.000 He went, Only Rosie O'Donnell!

00:35:43.000 And everyone started busting out laughing.

00:35:45.000 He didn't deflect.

00:35:46.000 He didn't say, well, that's not true.

00:35:47.000 That's out of context.

00:35:48.000 He didn't try lying.

00:35:49.000 He just owned it.

00:35:50.000 He owned that.

00:35:51.000 They were in a smear.

00:35:51.000 It was like, yeah, Rosie O'Donnell.

00:35:53.000 She's like, wow.

00:35:54.000 It is impressive to see the media take a swing at the king and miss.

00:35:58.000 Yeah.

00:35:59.000 With this.

00:36:00.000 Oh, man.

00:36:00.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:36:02.000 Well, no, I just want to say everyone's going, oh, but his policies are good.

00:36:05.000 His policies are good.

00:36:06.000 We know.

00:36:06.000 That's why this critique is important, because we're saying we want the policies that he's going to promote in this country to flourish.

00:36:12.000 And in order for them to be able to do so, he has to be elected, right?

00:36:15.000 And whether he's elected in the primaries or whether he runs for president later on, whether it's the 2024 cycle or 2028, this guy has to do something about his presence.

00:36:25.000 Barack Obama blew up kids and got reelected.

00:36:28.000 So when you come and you're like, but the policies, I'm like, no, I know the policies are great.

00:36:28.000 Yes.

00:36:32.000 We can praise them all day and night.

00:36:34.000 I can say it over at best governor, best policies, fighting ESG, fighting the wokeness. 0.92

00:36:38.000 Man, I love that stuff.

00:36:39.000 And then he goes up on stage to speak in front of a bunch of Americans who don't pay attention to politics, who don't know anything about policy.

00:36:46.000 And he goes, I think truth matters in this country.

00:36:49.000 And they're like, who is it?

00:36:49.000 It's boring.

00:36:50.000 Exactly.

00:36:51.000 It's boring.

00:36:51.000 Barack Obama was a celebrity.

00:36:53.000 He got elected because he was charming.

00:36:55.000 Look at Trudeau.

00:36:56.000 They said Trudeau got elected because women found him attractive.

00:36:59.000 Or I'm sorry, I should say women voted for him.

00:37:01.000 Many said they voted for him because he was attractive, he was dreamy or something.

00:37:04.000 He did that yoga handstand on the desk and he's a surfer and they're like, oh wow!

00:37:07.000 People don't look to leaders based on doing deep analytical research on their policy positions.

00:37:15.000 They vote for them if they have charisma.

00:37:18.000 Exactly.

00:37:18.000 And by the way, I think it's a good thing.

00:37:20.000 All the elections today are decided by low propensity swing voters and swing districts and swing states.

00:37:28.000 So when you want to break this down, Republicans are going to vote for Republicans, Democrats are going to vote for Democrats, and you have this fragment that exists of people who really don't want to vote And the Democrats are chasing down those voters and those ballots better than we are.

00:37:43.000 So it's like, who's going to hype up their people more and give people more energy to go actually chase down those ballots and build that?

00:37:49.000 Exactly.

00:37:49.000 So you might be sitting there saying like, well, I vote based on policy.

00:37:53.000 Yes.

00:37:53.000 No, me too.

00:37:54.000 That's what you should vote based on.

00:37:56.000 Guess what?

00:37:57.000 That's not why most people vote.

00:38:00.000 So, we gotta figure out what makes most people vote, what makes somebody win, and then if you want DeSantis to win, if we want DeSantis to win, we gotta find a way for him to cultivate those things if those policies really matter all that much to you.

00:38:11.000 It's charisma.

00:38:13.000 If you have charisma, you can, you'll...

00:38:15.000 Be able to convince voters.

00:38:17.000 You can convince voters without a message.

00:38:19.000 That's what Hope and Change was.

00:38:21.000 That's what Make America Great is.

00:38:23.000 It's an empty shell that people can fill with whatever they believe is important.

00:38:29.000 You can take this message and then you get to go ahead and put your values into it.

00:38:34.000 So really all you need is Riz.

00:38:36.000 All you need is charisma.

00:38:37.000 All you need to do is be able to convince people.

00:38:39.000 Someone said on Twitter, we lost Tina Turner and Ron DeSantis on the same night.

00:38:44.000 Oh, wow.

00:38:45.000 Oh, they come in threes.

00:38:47.000 I'm just surprised that when you look at Barack Obama, how he ended up winning, how Democrats often win, right?

00:38:53.000 They got to be charming.

00:38:54.000 They got to be charismatic.

00:38:55.000 Bill Clinton, you've got to come out there and you've got to speak with passion.

00:38:59.000 Joe Biden, Is good at faking the passion.

00:39:02.000 And using his dead son as a political tool to earn sympathy. 0.96

00:39:07.000 And this guy is evil as they come.

00:39:09.000 DeSantis seems like a good guy.

00:39:11.000 But nobody went to him and said, we're gonna get you some training?

00:39:15.000 Nobody said, hey, that was a little dry, can we try it again?

00:39:18.000 He had nobody sitting there being like, when you say freedom, say FREEDOM!

00:39:22.000 Don't say FREEDOM!

00:39:24.000 Freedom!

00:39:25.000 Freedom!

00:39:27.000 Well, what concerns me more is that nobody was on his campaign, and I know some of the people that run his campaign, great people, but nobody was on his campaign that went, Hey, maybe we should really turn this into a really well-planned event, as if it were live.

00:39:43.000 We shouldn't build this thing out to make it seem like it's much bigger than just the Twitter space.

00:39:48.000 Because we can make it seem like everyone's listening on Twitter, but that it's a bigger thing that they're not there or part of, and now they're part of something that's bigger.

00:39:57.000 That would have been a bigger, grander plan.

00:39:59.000 I mean, it just goes to show that the energy's not there with Ron DeSantis, but the energy's not there with his campaign and the people surrounding him that are figuring out what actually works with the MAGA base that they have to try to court, which they're not doing at all.

00:40:14.000 That's how you have to win.

00:40:14.000 You have to pull away some votes from Trump.

00:40:17.000 So you've got DeSantis basically saying what Trump is saying.

00:40:21.000 In no way saying... The only thing he's offered as to why he's better than Trump is that he doesn't think Trump can win.

00:40:26.000 It's like, okay, if that's your attitude, then people are gonna be like, okay, I'll take either one.

00:40:31.000 You're not making the argument for, vote for me because I'll win, you're making the argument of, either way it doesn't matter. 0.95

00:40:39.000 It's ridiculous.

00:40:41.000 If he's like, well, I think I'll win, it's like, okay, your policies are the same?

00:40:43.000 All right, see you in November.

00:40:45.000 Well, that's also not a mistake.

00:40:47.000 This is a mistake the Republicans have made in the past.

00:40:50.000 We saw this with the lack of a red wave during the midterms.

00:40:54.000 The entire Republican narrative was red wave, red wave, red wave, there's going to be a red wave.

00:40:59.000 And so there wasn't any actual unified messaging about anything else.

00:41:03.000 And they just assumed that they were going to step in there and claim all these victories.

00:41:06.000 I think DeSantis is probably making the same assumption based on his behavior.

00:41:10.000 He's thinking, I'll just step into the ring against Trump and I'll win because I'm more electable.

00:41:14.000 Well, dude, you got to work up to that.

00:41:16.000 You can't just make that assumption.

00:41:17.000 Milo was right when he came on the show and he said that Ron DeSantis had the charisma of something off-putting.

00:41:22.000 Like when you reach for something and accidentally touch something moist, like a wet sponge.

00:41:26.000 I don't know if I would go that far.

00:41:28.000 He really bored me.

00:41:29.000 He was saying things that I completely agree with.

00:41:31.000 I should have been cheering for that speech and I was yawning.

00:41:33.000 Honestly, that's what he's being told to do though, right?

00:41:36.000 They're like, we need to win female voters back. 1.00

00:41:38.000 We need to win moms back. 0.96

00:41:40.000 Well, guess what guys?

00:41:41.000 In a primary, if it comes down to men vote for Trump and women vote for DeSantis, Trump's going to kill DeSantis because more men are going to show up in the primary. 0.99

00:41:50.000 Not only that, but a lot of The women who are voting are not going to just be for DeSantis because DeSantis is calm.

00:42:00.000 If they're primary voters, it could be a coin toss.

00:42:03.000 Yes.

00:42:04.000 But then guys are more likely going to be attracted to the gruff, aggressive attitude.

00:42:08.000 Alpha male.

00:42:09.000 But it could be a coin... If all DeSantis is rolling for is maybe people would prefer my attitude more.

00:42:15.000 And I said it before, right?

00:42:16.000 If we had someone as good as Trump but with a better demeanor, it'd be great.

00:42:19.000 But Ron DeSantis doesn't have the leadership charisma to win.

00:42:22.000 Now, if he wins the primary, he's got my vote, no question.

00:42:24.000 Yeah, of course.

00:42:25.000 I think his policy is fantastic.

00:42:26.000 Of course.

00:42:27.000 His policies are only mediocre, in my opinion.

00:42:29.000 If you look at Trump's announcement, the ones that we went over the other night, I have significantly stronger preference for the stuff that Trump was talking about than DeSantis.

00:42:40.000 DeSantis gave the Standard Republican stuff.

00:42:46.000 I mean, it was as as boilerplate, boring, everyday Republican as it can get.

00:42:52.000 And that's I think that's because he's trying to say, look, I'm not as extreme as Donald Trump.

00:42:59.000 Even though he's gonna try to attack Trump from the right, apparently, that's the goal, I guess.

00:43:05.000 But even still, if you look at Trump's, the list that Trump gave the other day that we were going over, compared to DeSantis, I think that Trump is actually offering better, has a better grasp on the things that I'm interested in, like really tearing up the bureaucracy.

00:43:21.000 Whether or not he actually will do it, I don't know.

00:43:23.000 I was at Mar-a-Lago for Trump's announcement, and I remember everybody going, Wow, he came in really soft.

00:43:29.000 He was so soft.

00:43:31.000 I don't know if you remember, he talked in a really low voice.

00:43:37.000 That's because Trump needs to be more soft.

00:43:40.000 Ron DeSantis needs to be more alpha male to sell himself, and he didn't really produce that tonight.

00:43:46.000 Yeah, so you made an interesting point, Phil, about the fact that DeSantis is going to try to attack Trump from the right.

00:43:51.000 And this is what always happens during primary seasons, right?

00:43:53.000 When Republicans primary, they try to be as far to the right as possible so that they can appeal to the hardline conservative base.

00:43:59.000 And then when people on the left are running in the primaries, they're as far left as possible.

00:44:03.000 And then when whoever is selected is in the national election, I don't remember saying all those things or those things aren't relevant, whatever it is.

00:44:10.000 But with DeSantis, part of what's really a massive weakness for him is the thing that he was best on.

00:44:18.000 The thing that the American people were most impressed with him about was his response to COVID.

00:44:24.000 Now, unfortunately, It is the case that while, at the time, the things DeSantis was saying were completely unorthodox, the establishment entirely rejected them, most Republicans would not want to associate with you if you were saying those things, because the political science has changed, to quote DeSantis, these are perspectives that you're allowed to have.

00:44:45.000 So that takes a lot of DeSantis's edge away, unfortunately.

00:44:48.000 Even though he was on the right side of this virtually the entire time, because the status quo has changed, he doesn't seem like an outsider anymore.

00:44:57.000 That's a good point.

00:44:58.000 And that's what happened to Cruz, right?

00:45:01.000 Cruz was the outsider in 2016.

00:45:03.000 Cruz was the outside guy.

00:45:05.000 Everyone was like, oh, I want to vote for Ted Cruz.

00:45:08.000 It's a little bit naughty, you know, with all this, because the establishment was going to attack every single person that supported Cruz.

00:45:14.000 Cruz had this massive following.

00:45:16.000 I think he had the most small donations.

00:45:19.000 Hey, one Iowa, it ended up just being barely, but he had all the most small dollar donations, and then all of a sudden it just imploded because all these establishment guys dropped out, dropped out, dropped out, started supporting Cruz.

00:45:33.000 Well, guess what?

00:45:34.000 If establishment guys are dropping out, and all these consultants in all these different states are trying to get contracts, they're not going to Donald Trump for the most part.

00:45:41.000 They're going to be going to Ron DeSantis' group.

00:45:44.000 And he's going to have a plan to deflect these people, and there's no plan.

00:45:49.000 Last year I was saying that I was leaning towards DeSantis.

00:45:52.000 I was ready.

00:45:53.000 I've never been a big Trump guy.

00:45:55.000 Trump wouldn't stop talking about me, me, me, and talking about what was taken from him.

00:45:59.000 He needs to get back on that message of this is what they took from you.

00:46:01.000 He needs to get back on the message of, with your help, my election brought you a better economy, safer borders, better jobs, et cetera, an end to Middle East conflict. 0.67

00:46:11.000 And then they took that all away from you when Joe Biden became the president.

00:46:15.000 That's his angle.

00:46:17.000 After this launch, I'm leaning towards Trump.

00:46:22.000 Trump's the guy who's going to go in and clean things up.

00:46:24.000 But you know, detention maybe.

00:46:26.000 At this point, I'm like 85% for Trump because it just...

00:46:32.000 the inauthenticity of it.

00:46:35.000 The Twitter space was scripted.

00:46:37.000 His speeches, they're scripted.

00:46:38.000 Donald Trump is a guy who just gets up there and starts talking.

00:46:42.000 And then they go, oh no, he's going off the prompter again.

00:46:44.000 He's ad-libbing.

00:46:45.000 And he's funny.

00:46:48.000 Trump is funny, he's personable, and he's got some... Look, he's certainly crass and crude, and can be very insulting to people who are mean to him.

00:46:57.000 But what I'm trying to say is, when he gets up there and talks, he talks from the heart.

00:47:01.000 And he just goes for it.

00:47:02.000 DeSantis gets up there and he reads from his piece of paper, in a very stiff and robotic way, and then says, thank you, and then walks away.

00:47:09.000 And I'm like, I don't even know if you mean it, like you were saying about singing, gotta believe it.

00:47:13.000 Well, I mean, every single politician in 2016, I was chairman of Maricopa County of the Republican Party, Maricopa County.

00:47:20.000 We hosted Trump for the, what became the first Trump rally.

00:47:23.000 And I got a chance to meet every single candidate that ran back in 2016.

00:47:28.000 And we remember we had like 16 of them or something.

00:47:30.000 I can't remember what it was, 15, 16.

00:47:33.000 And every single person that you meet, typically in politics, is totally inauthentic. 1.00

00:47:38.000 They suck. 0.99

00:47:40.000 Even Ted Cruz, he wouldn't even talk to people. 1.00

00:47:43.000 He'd sit in the back of his car with a driver playing Plants vs. Zombies the entire time.

00:47:48.000 And it's like, Donald Trump, when you meet him, he shakes your hand.

00:47:52.000 I like your tie!

00:47:53.000 I like how you do things!

00:47:55.000 Tell me about your life!

00:47:56.000 Let me see your kid! 1.00

00:47:57.000 Let me hold your kid! 1.00

00:47:59.000 Is this your grandma?

00:48:01.000 Oh, she's so sweet!

00:48:01.000 She has softer hands than you!"

00:48:03.000 Stuff like that.

00:48:04.000 And you like the guy immediately!

00:48:06.000 And there's nobody within politics thus far that I've ever met that's that authentic that actually cares about you.

00:48:13.000 Anybody who went to a Trump rally saw it.

00:48:14.000 When the rally ends, he walks up to the barricade and starts just hanging out with people.

00:48:18.000 And I was like, how does this guy have the energy for this?

00:48:21.000 And that's the thing about Donald Trump, right?

00:48:22.000 He really is a once-in-a-lifetime kind of political leader.

00:48:25.000 There's nobody who I'm aware of in American political history who's even remotely like him.

00:48:31.000 He's very unique, for better or for worse.

00:48:33.000 Some people don't like that.

00:48:34.000 I like that a lot.

00:48:36.000 And there's not going to be another guy like him who comes along.

00:48:39.000 No, you're right that people can learn from this.

00:48:41.000 It's like, guys, learn from it.

00:48:42.000 And that's what I would also say is if you're heavily invested in DeSantis and your position is DeSantis is way better than Trump and you believe that, okay, then you should want DeSantis to learn some of that charisma so that he has a fighting chance.

00:48:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:57.000 But don't sit around and act like there's not a problem when there is one.

00:49:00.000 There is a charisma problem with DeSantis.

00:49:02.000 I like him.

00:49:03.000 You can't pretend that's not true.

00:49:05.000 It's bad.

00:49:06.000 It will do no one any favors to pretend that's not the case.

00:49:08.000 It's like the Democrats who were trying to pretend that Joe Biden didn't have dementia when he was running in the primaries.

00:49:14.000 You can't not acknowledge this because this is going to get him torn to shreds on the national stage.

00:49:18.000 So I think Trump, I've said this to people before, I think Trump is like Reagan on steroids.

00:49:23.000 What people liked about Reagan was that he would get up, he'd make jokes and people were like, Oh, he kind of reminds me of like my friend or my grandpa or my uncle, like that makes jokes all the time at Thanksgiving.

00:49:34.000 And like, I like that about him.

00:49:36.000 And like, Trump is like, like Reagan on steroids when it comes to that.

00:49:40.000 But it's, why don't people, I don't understand like how somebody running for president and it's like, you don't learn from at least pieces of that, elements of that.

00:49:47.000 Studying from any other president in history?

00:49:48.000 Yeah, just like the successful ones that do well.

00:49:53.000 Florida's never had a president, have they?

00:49:54.000 I was reading something that said Florida has never sent a president.

00:50:00.000 I changed my mind then.

00:50:01.000 They're overdue.

00:50:02.000 They are due, but are they the generals or are they the Globetrotters?

00:50:06.000 Man, it just bums me out to see such a lost opportunity.

00:50:11.000 First impressions can be everything, and probably in a political campaign, Your announcement speech needs to hit heavy.

00:50:19.000 Heavy.

00:50:20.000 Mm-hmm.

00:50:20.000 And this was a... I mean, first of all, like you were saying, it's just there's no video?

00:50:25.000 What is it like, radio?

00:50:26.000 It's like the advent of radio?

00:50:27.000 It's like FDR. 0.80

00:50:28.000 Yeah, I mean... They really did not think this through.

00:50:31.000 Yeah, there's plenty of time.

00:50:32.000 There is plenty of time.

00:50:33.000 He could turn these things around.

00:50:34.000 That's also why constructive criticism is valid and important.

00:50:37.000 Like I said, if you really like DeSantis, you should really be willing to hear these criticisms, and the people at his campaign should, too, because I think this is what the guy needs.

00:50:45.000 I don't think they are.

00:50:46.000 When I tweeted innocuously about Jazz Jennings, because they're living in Florida, and I said, where's DeSantis?

00:50:51.000 His press people started attacking me on Twitter, calling me a grifter.

00:50:53.000 They're so out of the... I can't believe how bad this is.

00:50:58.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:50:59.000 I can believe it.

00:51:00.000 It's just, somebody's telling him, like, here are great policies, here's what the people want, he's like, great, and then he goes on stage and goes, wah, wah, and then his press people are like, no one better insult Ron DeSantis.

00:51:10.000 Okay, well, if your immediate reaction to any light criticism is to start insulting those, you may as well just be a Democrat, you may as well join the left, because your candidate's never going to improve, and you may as well just be a cult.

00:51:21.000 You made an interesting point about charisma.

00:51:23.000 You said it makes you feel like that person is your friend.

00:51:25.000 I was thinking the exact same thing a little bit earlier.

00:51:28.000 People don't realize this.

00:51:29.000 Having that charismatic power is something that a person might see as a thing that a politician needs, and therefore a politician's trade, and something that actually sets you apart from ordinary people.

00:51:40.000 But it's the exact opposite.

00:51:41.000 When someone isn't charismatic, They come off like any other politician.

00:51:46.000 And people aren't as patient.

00:51:48.000 Fake.

00:51:48.000 And they're not as interested in hearing what they say because it comes off, like you said, as fake.

00:51:52.000 Just comes off as, you know, this guy's reading off of a script.

00:51:56.000 I'm not doubting DeSantis' sincerity.

00:51:58.000 I think he believes everything he read there.

00:51:59.000 I'll say it again.

00:52:00.000 I like DeSantis.

00:52:02.000 But he really has to work some energy up.

00:52:04.000 He really needs to get some coaching on how to be more charismatic.

00:52:07.000 Nobody in this room needs a script to explain their position on the border, on crime, on war, and on woke ideology.

00:52:14.000 No script.

00:52:15.000 And, in fact, if you were to go up to anybody in this room, in the public, and say, give me your thoughts on modern politics and tell me how you feel, it might start soft and then it'll slowly escalate as we get more impassioned and pull out that anger of the things we're frustrated with, the things we want.

00:52:30.000 The average Trump voter could do a better job.

00:52:35.000 In my opinion, you take a random Trump voter, put him on stage with a microphone, and say, rally the people and tell them why you're mad.

00:52:41.000 And it's going to be some middle-aged, you know, factory workers that say, I lost my job when they opened up those borders and they bring in non-citizens to reap the benefits of my labor and then put me out of work! 0.99

00:52:53.000 And the crowd goes, wah!

00:52:55.000 They're screaming.

00:52:55.000 Ron goes, our borders are open and we shouldn't allow- oh man.

00:53:00.000 Well, I don't think it's a lack of sincerity.

00:53:02.000 I think that there are just some people who are more monotone.

00:53:05.000 Their temperament is such that when they say things, it's less exciting and interesting.

00:53:10.000 Again, I think that's something you can work on.

00:53:12.000 I think that's something that could genuinely improve.

00:53:15.000 And by the way, room for improvement is not just a euphemism for you're bad at this.

00:53:19.000 It means you actually could become better.

00:53:21.000 I think the Santas could become better at this.

00:53:23.000 You brought up a really interesting point, which kind of overtures with what we were talking about, which is this should have been programmatic.

00:53:30.000 There should have been someone warming the stage up. 0.88

00:53:33.000 They should have built this thing to like a million concurrent listeners or whatever.

00:53:37.000 They should have set a goal, like a bar, like, hey, we're not going to send them out.

00:53:40.000 They shouldn't have announced it.

00:53:41.000 They should have announced it.

00:53:42.000 It's just got this thing like, organically, everybody get on Twitter right now.

00:53:45.000 But look, You said something that's really interesting.

00:53:49.000 Donald Trump has done since day one, our very first rally, which turned into what was the first Trump rally, he, his team, and I think this is Corley Lewandowski deserves a credit for this.

00:53:58.000 They had invited angel moms, which were the moms for everyone's listening.

00:54:03.000 Everyone here knows this.

00:54:03.000 The moms who had a child die at the hands of an illegal immigrant.

00:54:08.000 And that happened in Arizona.

00:54:10.000 The first rally was on illegal immigration.

00:54:12.000 But he had invited those people.

00:54:14.000 So before he got up, they had done exactly what you said.

00:54:18.000 They appealed to the audience.

00:54:19.000 And they're like, Oh, wow, I've never seen a politician do this before.

00:54:22.000 So by the time they got up, everybody was in the room like he did.

00:54:26.000 They could have done that.

00:54:27.000 Again, lessons learned.

00:54:29.000 They could have said nothing.

00:54:30.000 Posted no videos.

00:54:31.000 They should have done it on maybe Joe Rogan, if Rogan would have him, but like a big show, and it should have been on a platform that can handle it.

00:54:40.000 And then what happens is one hour before the announcement, they tweet out, Ron DeSantis could tweet, I am joining whatever show to discuss, you know, to discuss a big change in my life.

00:54:52.000 Tune in.

00:54:53.000 You'll get a mix of people saying, is this gonna be an announcement?

00:54:56.000 What's going on?

00:54:57.000 It's gotta be the announcement.

00:54:58.000 Two million, three million people would be watching, and then you would say, you guessed right, I am announcing I'm running, here's why.

00:55:04.000 That could have at least made up for some of the charisma gap.

00:55:07.000 Instead, they did this wonky, poorly planned thing, and I mean poorly planned in the sense that they announced in advance, or it was leaked in advance, then they put up a video, so it told all the wind out of their sails.

00:55:18.000 A bunch of people probably said, okay, I don't need to watch it, I already know, he already announced.

00:55:21.000 Then they had the problems on the stream itself, You know what I think?

00:55:25.000 I think they're sitting in their planning room and someone goes, what if we announced on Twitter with Elon, oh that's a really good idea, let's do it!

00:55:31.000 And Elon's like, sure, okay.

00:55:33.000 And then they didn't.

00:55:33.000 No planning.

00:55:34.000 No planning, no tag, no program.

00:55:37.000 You gotta think about what happens before, you gotta think about what happens during, you gotta think about what happens after.

00:55:41.000 When we do shows like this, let me tell you my friends, we have, I believe, four different internet systems.

00:55:46.000 I'm not gonna say too much more than that for security reasons, but we have backups upon backups upon backups.

00:55:50.000 Now, people have pointed out, they're like, Tim, your shows have had problems before in the past.

00:55:54.000 Uh, yeah, technical issues do happen.

00:55:56.000 We've had our backups fail.

00:55:57.000 We've had weird technical issues.

00:55:59.000 No problem.

00:56:00.000 We are not running for president!

00:56:01.000 Yeah, no, and when I- You didn't raise a hundred million dollars for this.

00:56:05.000 Seriously, we don't need billions of dollars.

00:56:06.000 We're doing an internet live stream show on YouTube.

00:56:09.000 Well, there are backups for this live stream show, and when I do finally formally announce my candidacy for president of the United States, we're gonna make sure the infrastructure's in place so that it doesn't cut out or crash.

00:56:21.000 Someone said that he did take authenticity training.

00:56:24.000 Let me double check that.

00:56:25.000 Is that true?

00:56:26.000 Someone said he should have gone on Alex Stein's show.

00:56:28.000 He failed.

00:56:29.000 Seriously?

00:56:30.000 If he went on Alex Stein or Glenn Beck, it would have been way bigger.

00:56:38.000 I mean, my biggest takeaway from this whole thing is exactly, I think, what the natural, which is like, how is Ron DeSantis going to be able to hold up throughout this race with Donald Trump?

00:56:49.000 And what's so sad about this, which I think really the undertones of everything is, is that I think everybody wants Ron DeSantis to succeed.

00:56:58.000 I think everybody wants Ron DeSantis to be around in 2028 and 2032.

00:57:05.000 And to learn from it, and to pull from the base, and listen to the base, and listen to the grassroots.

00:57:11.000 But everything that this is looking like is that it's the opposite.

00:57:15.000 No, I don't care who it is.

00:57:17.000 I want the person that's going to go into the government and harm the bureaucracy as much as possible.

00:57:23.000 I don't want someone that knows the ropes or whatever.

00:57:26.000 I don't care what they know.

00:57:27.000 I want them to know that they're cutting Bureaucracy that they're getting I wanted to get rid of cabinet level bureaucracies cut them get rid of the entire Department of Education like like make real as massive stance Substantial cuts and if DeSantis is gonna be like what we'll go in and we'll go ahead and we'll change some people around No, not good enough for it.

00:57:47.000 I want cuts.

00:57:48.000 I want serious hacking with a machete to the federal government But I don't know that Donald Trump will do that either, necessarily, but I do think he'll get revenge on the bureaucrats.

00:57:59.000 So I don't know what Rich Bear said, but I did find a tweet from David Marcus,

00:58:02.000 who said, this is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to a presidential candidate.

00:58:05.000 It's not close. Just hold a rally. Yeah, man.

00:58:08.000 All right.

00:58:09.000 Well, let's move on.

00:58:10.000 Or do this at a rally.

00:58:12.000 Just could have done it on Rumble.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, seriously.

00:58:14.000 Do a massive rally that's like, oh my gosh, this is like Trump.

00:58:17.000 Here's the reality.

00:58:19.000 If they did it on Rumble, I think it would have been a lot bigger, but probably still would have crashed.

00:58:22.000 We use Rumble infrastructure.

00:58:22.000 I'm not trying to be mean.

00:58:24.000 But this is a heavy undertaking.

00:58:26.000 If they just did it on a YouTube show, they would have been the official social media launch instead.

00:58:32.000 But let's jump to the story from the Daily Beast and get a little bit more positive, I guess.

00:58:38.000 Target removes Pride merch after right-wing media throws hissy fit.

00:58:43.000 Hissy fit, they call it. 0.99

00:58:44.000 So Target's being boycotted.

00:58:47.000 They announced they're going to be removing a lot of their Pride section, hiding a lot of it.

00:58:53.000 But the CEO then says, don't worry, we're going to keep our commitment up.

00:58:56.000 What they're basically saying is regular people have come in and expressed disdain.

00:59:00.000 So they need to hide these products. 0.93

00:59:01.000 But publicly into the world, they're going to make sure everybody knows they're still doing it.

00:59:06.000 This isn't just a couple stores in the South.

00:59:09.000 There's a systematic attack on the gay community happening across the country.

00:59:13.000 Wake up America.

00:59:14.000 This doesn't stop here. 0.95

00:59:15.000 You're Asian. 0.99

00:59:15.000 You're black. 0.99

00:59:16.000 You're a woman. 0.86

00:59:16.000 You're Jewish. 0.86

00:59:17.000 You're next.

00:59:18.000 So, I would just like for everyone to consider, very briefly, what Gavin Newsom just said.

00:59:23.000 That Target will remove all of their women's clothing. 1.00

00:59:27.000 Because they're patriarchal or something.

00:59:30.000 No, you can't shop at Target, it's only for men now.

00:59:32.000 Well, Tim, I mean, it makes perfect sense, right? 0.98

00:59:35.000 I mean, there's nothing that people who don't want sexual perversion forced onto their children hate more than Asians, I guess. 1.00

00:59:43.000 Did the Daily Beast Did the Daily Beast consider it freaking out when you had to go to the Supreme Court to decide if a man could say, no, I don't want to endorse your marriage?

00:59:56.000 Of course the Daily Beast didn't freak out over that, but this is it.

01:00:01.000 Was that freaking out?

01:00:02.000 They say Republicans are freaking out?

01:00:05.000 They took the guy to the Supreme Court!

01:00:08.000 Was that a hissy fit?

01:00:09.000 Well, hold on. 0.99

01:00:11.000 If it's a hissy fit, then is it not also a hissy fit to say, oh, you don't want sexual perversion forced on your child? 1.00

01:00:19.000 You must hate Asians and black people! 1.00

01:00:21.000 You must hate minorities! 1.00

01:00:23.000 What are you talking about? 0.98

01:00:24.000 Wow, what on earth are you talking about, Gavin? 0.98

01:00:26.000 The hissy fit was a couple weeks ago in Nashville when a trans person went and killed a bunch of Christians, right? 1.00

01:00:33.000 That's the hissy fit. 1.00

01:00:34.000 Give me a goddamn break! 0.99

01:00:36.000 No, it was a hissy fit when they were burning down Minneapolis, remember? 0.99

01:00:40.000 And store owners were like, oh my gosh, how am I ever gonna rebuild?

01:00:44.000 And they were calling that a hissy fit, too.

01:00:48.000 It's infuriating.

01:00:49.000 This is all a big...

01:00:51.000 You know, a charade of calling us out for when we get upset.

01:00:56.000 But the reality is that they've learned from the Bud Light thing.

01:00:59.000 No, I think something happened.

01:01:01.000 They said there were confrontations.

01:01:02.000 I think regular parents, that we don't know these stories, I don't think there's videos, I think regular people walked in and saw the weird sexualized stuff for kids and said, hey, what are you doing?

01:01:12.000 I'm not bringing my kids here.

01:01:13.000 And so the left keeps trying to argue that none of this is inherently sexual when quite literally LGBT is a reference to a person's sexual proclivities.

01:01:21.000 Literally!

01:01:22.000 So when they put that in a display with children's clothing on it, expressing these ideas, Imagine if they had a bondage section for kids.

01:01:31.000 I'm not saying they're identical, these things, right?

01:01:34.000 Both are perversions. 0.98

01:01:35.000 Both are sick perversions.

01:01:37.000 Well, I'm not saying that. 0.98

01:01:38.000 You can say that.

01:01:39.000 What I'm saying is, there's a difference, but they're both sexually themed things that in and of themselves don't directly show sex.

01:01:47.000 What I mean to say is, telling someone that someone is gay They're going to ask a question.

01:01:51.000 Okay, well then, what does that mean?

01:01:53.000 It's like, okay, well, now we're going to get into the birds and the bees.

01:01:56.000 Sure. 0.62

01:01:56.000 Showing someone bondage gear, you say, this is just chains and silly clothing. 0.62

01:02:01.000 But what is it for?

01:02:02.000 Okay, now we're talking about the birds and the bees.

01:02:03.000 Actually, we're talking about kink.

01:02:05.000 So in some ways, a lot worse.

01:02:07.000 Imagine if they put items on display which were intended for use in a sexual context.

01:02:15.000 Parents would be like, no, that's what the left is trying to lie about.

01:02:18.000 They're saying it's not inherently sexual.

01:02:22.000 We've seen the videos from Pride where the guy's wearing the Bugs Bunny mask and jumping

01:02:25.000 around naked.

01:02:27.000 If it wasn't inherently sexual, they wouldn't be so obsessed with trying to force it onto children, and they wouldn't lose their minds when adults push back against it, because the thing they claim is being attacked is their sexuality.

01:02:39.000 Yeah.

01:02:40.000 So, here's what I think happens.

01:02:41.000 If this wasn't sexual, it wouldn't be the hill they were dying on.

01:02:44.000 Here's what I think happens.

01:02:45.000 I think regular people walk into Target, see it, and go, kids, no, we're leaving.

01:02:48.000 Yeah.

01:02:49.000 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:02:50.000 Here's what, really, I was thinking about this today, about the whole thing.

01:02:53.000 Remember the days when we just got upset that they were putting Christmas stuff out, like right after Halloween?

01:02:59.000 And now it's like, I don't even know what is LGBTQ month.

01:03:03.000 Apparently it's June, so this is why it's out.

01:03:04.000 It's coming up, mark the calendar.

01:03:06.000 But guys, it's not even June!

01:03:08.000 So they're doing the same old... It's like...

01:03:12.000 Well, June is actually American Greatness Month.

01:03:14.000 It's actually the month of the Sacred Heart and then July is Maga Month.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, Maga Month. 0.93

01:03:19.000 But this is what's so crazy.

01:03:20.000 It's like you're seeing this and I think it's mind-blowing to me that people who can't have kids, you know, want to exploit All of the LGBTQ community to kids. 0.99

01:03:36.000 It doesn't even make sense to me.

01:03:37.000 It's bizarre.

01:03:37.000 I think they crossed the line.

01:03:39.000 I think these corporations, they've reached the point where regular people are just saying, we are not accepting of this.

01:03:46.000 We don't care if you're privately in your own home.

01:03:49.000 We don't care if you want to live your life and be happy.

01:03:51.000 But you started putting on a prominent display in front of our children.

01:03:54.000 You started having people do sexual things in the streets at these pride parades, which they do. 1.00

01:03:58.000 You had, I think it was in Florida, they said you can't have adult shows for children, so one town cancelled their pride parade.

01:04:05.000 What were they intending to show kids at these pride parades?

01:04:08.000 But why are they so obsessed with kids?

01:04:11.000 I mean, a lot of... They're saying the quiet part very loudly is what's happening.

01:04:18.000 They have no interest in... There's a whole play of like, oh, we're just trying to open up the eyes of children that we don't want to have.

01:04:25.000 The vast majority of any gay couple that exists Doesn't have kids. 1.00

01:04:30.000 They have no interest at all.

01:04:32.000 And so this isn't a lifestyle.

01:04:33.000 This isn't a simple lifestyle conversation.

01:04:35.000 This is literal straight up perversion.

01:04:37.000 Just trying to take advantage of... But the main point here that I want to make sure we're on is the victory of the boycotts.

01:04:44.000 Yeah.

01:04:45.000 that Bud Light is reeling, and they're not getting these sales back.

01:04:47.000 Bud Light was trending today to an absurd degree.

01:04:52.000 I mean, it was hundreds of thousands of tweets over Bud Light, and their stock has dropped again.

01:04:57.000 The stock for Bud Light is now lower than when it started this year.

01:05:01.000 So there was a period where I was like, it'll go down, but it'll probably go up because all stocks typically climb.

01:05:06.000 But the backlash is getting worse for Bud Light.

01:05:10.000 Now you've got North Face doing something similar, but they've been doing this for a while.

01:05:14.000 The fact that North Face is on their, I think it's their second year doing this drag promotion, and now people are getting angry.

01:05:20.000 And I'm like, I think the camel's back broke.

01:05:22.000 I think regular people for a long time said, we'll tolerate it, but we don't like it.

01:05:25.000 And then one day they walked their kids into a Target and saw this stuff and got angry.

01:05:29.000 And they said, that's it.

01:05:30.000 No, none of it.

01:05:31.000 None of it at all.

01:05:32.000 Yeah.

01:05:32.000 Well, somebody was explaining the whole distribution thing to me, that part of the reason why they're seeing the spike now with Bud Light is that the distributors finally have... It's a wave.

01:05:43.000 Yeah, they've got the max.

01:05:45.000 It's just all sitting there, and they're like, no more, finally.

01:05:47.000 So it's a lagging effect here that's going to get worse.

01:05:50.000 The first thing that happens is that consumers stop buying, and then distributors don't reorder.

01:05:55.000 But if some of the beer expires, they may reorder.

01:05:58.000 Now they've got stacks of expired beer, Bud Light's offered to buy it back.

01:06:02.000 They said they will buy back the expired beer from these distributors, which is crazy.

01:06:05.000 Because why would the distributor buy new ones?

01:06:07.000 Yeah, the distributor's like, I'm not going to just have it sit and take up space.

01:06:11.000 It'll go bad again, and I'm not getting my money back.

01:06:13.000 So you can have it, but I ain't buying more.

01:06:15.000 So it's a delayed reaction.

01:06:16.000 Eventually it makes it to the distributors who say, we're not buying it.

01:06:19.000 And then Bud Light sales get way bad.

01:06:21.000 So Target, who knows?

01:06:22.000 Maybe they won't put out Christmas stuff after Halloween now.

01:06:25.000 I mean, it's difficult because some people have no choice.

01:06:31.000 You know, when it comes to beer, you buy beer frequently if you drink beer, and there's not really strong brand loyalty, so it was the perfect boycott.

01:06:37.000 Target, some places only have Target.

01:06:39.000 If you live in some suburbs, you have nowhere else to go, Target's your place.

01:06:43.000 If you can, however, avoid it, I recommend you avoid it.

01:06:46.000 And you're breaking, you know, these habits of, like, my wife, you know, ends up in Target four times a week, and it's like, now you gotta break that habit, so, you know, gotta That's not gonna work.

01:06:56.000 That's not gonna work.

01:06:57.000 I mean, look, look, I don't care if there are people who say they have no choice and

01:07:02.000 they have nowhere else to go.

01:07:03.000 I'm not going to cry that they go to Target.

01:07:05.000 It is not the same thing as Best Buy.

01:07:08.000 So I think the fact that Target's—I'm sorry, as Bud Light said, Best Buy—I think the

01:07:13.000 fact that they've already decided to start taking things down shows that they got impacted

01:07:18.000 outside of any real conservative boycott.

01:07:20.000 I think regular people started complaining.

01:07:23.000 Well, someone brought this up today too.

01:07:24.000 It's like, you know, the Target card.

01:07:26.000 You know, a lot of, again, a lot of wives have a Target card. 1.00

01:07:29.000 That's their credit card of choice.

01:07:30.000 You know, just go with your wife and shut down the Target card. 1.00

01:07:32.000 That's your first step.

01:07:34.000 So say, hey, we're going to shut down the Target card tonight.

01:07:36.000 Shut down the Target card.

01:07:38.000 Target cart?

01:07:39.000 The card.

01:07:39.000 The credit card.

01:07:40.000 Oh yeah, just get rid of it.

01:07:42.000 Shut down your Target card.

01:07:44.000 Get that done tonight.

01:07:44.000 You can do that in two seconds.

01:07:45.000 Just pay it off.

01:07:46.000 Say, I'm going to pay it off.

01:07:47.000 I'm going to get you a new credit card.

01:07:49.000 It's going to be a beautiful credit card.

01:07:50.000 What about Walmart?

01:07:50.000 Are they woke?

01:07:53.000 I think that the founders or the heirs were Christian, but I have no idea if they're still a good organization.

01:08:03.000 I don't know.

01:08:04.000 They found some stuff in Walmart.

01:08:05.000 There were some posts, but they were just kind of ducking and getting it off the shelves real quick.

01:08:09.000 It was books, I think.

01:08:12.000 Yeah, it wouldn't shock me.

01:08:13.000 I mean, it's all so swampy these days.

01:08:15.000 But Walmart's really good about, like, Really blending with the with the local community.

01:08:20.000 So I'm sure it's more liberal and more liberal communities and a way more conservative So they'll have like Christian books up front and like, you know, I know in Utah.

01:08:28.000 Yeah, they have Mormon books up front like I bet my guess is it's probably a little bit more liberal liberal communities targets just like They push everything the same.

01:08:38.000 Yeah interesting so I just saw this.

01:08:43.000 Someone from the New York Times is reporting that when DeSantis was on with Trey Gowdy, he finished it up talking about the Federal Reserve and that he was talking about the Jerome Powell.

01:08:55.000 And as part of his campaign, he intends to blame the Fed money printing for laying groundwork for inflation, which is, I mean, that should be obvious.

01:09:03.000 And any president that doesn't lay that out is suspect.

01:09:07.000 I don't know that Trump would.

01:09:08.000 He might sit there and continue to boast about all the money printing, which is a terrible idea in my opinion.

01:09:14.000 But I, personally, I find things that are, you know, criticism of the current monetary policy compelling, personally.

01:09:24.000 DC Drano hosted a live right now on our Twitter space and it's been going 50,000 strong for like, I don't know, a long time.

01:09:35.000 I don't know if it's like an hour.

01:09:37.000 55,000.

01:09:37.000 It hasn't dropped at all.

01:09:38.000 But as for Target, I mean, go to Walmart.

01:09:44.000 It's the same thing.

01:09:47.000 Just less Connecticut.

01:09:49.000 Why are they in Connecticut?

01:09:50.000 No, no, it's just, Target, like, Target is, to me, Target is what Walmart is.

01:09:55.000 It's just, like, the Connecticut version.

01:09:57.000 Connecticut's nose in the air, kinda.

01:09:59.000 Southern Connecticut, all the wealthy people.

01:10:01.000 Well, let's jump to this story.

01:10:02.000 We got more good news for everybody.

01:10:04.000 Black Lives Matter teeters on the brink of insolvency after an $8.5 million loss in 2022.

01:10:09.000 You know they made something like, I think, $77 million in 2021 or something like that?

01:10:14.000 So BLM's near insolvency?

01:10:16.000 Dude, racism stock is gonna be through the roof.

01:10:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:20.000 They only raised $9.3 million in 2022, down from $77 million in 2021 and $90 million in 2020.

01:10:26.000 That is a massive collapse.

01:10:28.000 They're going to spend the next year advocating Donald Trump to get the racism up.

01:10:35.000 They say Patrice Culler resigned as Executive Director in May 2021.

01:10:38.000 The public learned she spent $3.2 million on four separate homes on top of other lavish expenses.

01:10:44.000 Prior to her resignation, she was accused of funneling $230,000 to a company that belonged to the father of her child.

01:10:50.000 Well, there's a bunch of nepotism going on in here, but hey man, look, this is good news, right?

01:10:55.000 People aren't donating anymore.

01:10:56.000 This is a lot moving into a 2024 election cycle.

01:11:01.000 If they had 90 million in 2020, and then two years later they're down by 90%, that means the sentiment among regular people is not favorable for Black Lives Matter, and it means that many of these people may be waking up or may just be like, we're out of this, we're not going to be involved.

01:11:16.000 And corporate America, right?

01:11:18.000 Because they got a lot from corporate America, which is really important in this case, is like the flip around on this with corporate America is really important for the future of the country.

01:11:29.000 And maybe, maybe there's some hope there.

01:11:31.000 I don't have a lot of hope for corporate America, but maybe there's a little bit of hope.

01:11:33.000 Things like ESG make it difficult.

01:11:35.000 There's this period, if we pull this up on Civics, you can see that around, in 2019, there was a flip.

01:11:42.000 The majority of people now started to support Black Lives Matter after George Floyd died.

01:11:47.000 It spiked at 52%.

01:11:47.000 But now, 43% oppose 41% support.

01:11:49.000 And among independent voters, 45% oppose, and it seems relatively stable, but it's spiked a great deal.

01:12:02.000 And that's the riots.

01:12:03.000 The rioting made independent voters say, you know what?

01:12:06.000 I do not support this group.

01:12:07.000 Which is really great news for the Republicans.

01:12:10.000 How many people lied because they were afraid they'd be called racist for saying they don't support Black Lives Matter?

01:12:15.000 Yep.

01:12:16.000 Do you know the history of Black Lives Matter, where it came from?

01:12:18.000 Trayvon Martin?

01:12:20.000 So yeah, it actually got its start with student government in Missouri.

01:12:26.000 So when the whole thing happened in Missouri, way back, what thing in Missouri?

01:12:30.000 Ferguson.

01:12:31.000 Ferguson.

01:12:31.000 Oh, right.

01:12:33.000 And there was a student government, a student body president, I think it was a young black man, they started a campaign basically using student government funds.

01:12:42.000 I was just like, because they have slush funds at all these big universities.

01:12:44.000 And that's where the name Black Lives Matter came from.

01:12:47.000 It started well before that.

01:12:49.000 And he got picked up by... Black Lives Matter started with Trayvon Martin protests in New York City, I think.

01:12:55.000 Pretty sure.

01:12:55.000 So the Ferguson stuff was a couple of years later.

01:12:58.000 But they basically turned it into like a movement that they funded across all of the different universities, the student governments.

01:13:05.000 And then that ended that kid in this White House with Barack Obama.

01:13:09.000 His name was Peyton Head.

01:13:11.000 When did Patrice get involved? 0.97

01:13:13.000 This was later.

01:13:13.000 So then they formalized that as an organization, but it's still the, the, the tiny legs that it had were funded essentially through student government, which was a really interesting tidbit, which is a really important reason why you can't let these, these universities just kind of run rampant with this thing.

01:13:31.000 Yeah, I remember in roughly 2013 when I first heard it, 2014 when I first heard it, it was definitely Trayvon Martin.

01:13:37.000 At least that's what gave it legs on the nationals. 0.99

01:13:39.000 Yeah, it started July 2013 with the use of the hashtag Black Lives Matter on social media after the acquittal of George Zimmerman.

01:13:44.000 Yeah, because I remember I was down there in New York when I was covering those protests when all that went down, and that was the beginning.

01:13:51.000 And then there was some other guy who created something called Black Lives Matter, I think, before all of them, and they shut his... They just hijacked it all. 0.77

01:13:57.000 Yeah, they stole it from him.

01:13:59.000 But the money that got behind it was originally from just like they latched onto it, identified it and said, this is something.

01:14:08.000 And so they took a bunch of student government money, which is they were able to do across the country, landed at the White House, solidified it.

01:14:16.000 I think for Democrats, they're like, oh, we can get votes from this.

01:14:18.000 Totally.

01:14:18.000 Let's play that game.

01:14:20.000 This is a lot about the current state of politics in this country, though, if BLM is officially not in anymore.

01:14:28.000 People aren't donating, so that's it.

01:14:30.000 We're going to be moving into a new era.

01:14:32.000 I think I'm fairly optimistic, especially with shows like this on the rise.

01:14:36.000 I mean, look, if Tucker Carlson goes independent, launching his own network or his own online channels, the rise of Rumble, Elon Musk buying Twitter, I think it's all looking fairly positive.

01:14:46.000 Yeah, they can't shut things down.

01:14:48.000 Last minute on us.

01:14:52.000 It's cool.

01:14:53.000 Yeah, there's hope.

01:14:54.000 Yeah.

01:14:55.000 No, I mean, it's it's it's an you have to be remarkably financially irresponsible to

01:15:00.000 mess a grift like that up.

01:15:02.000 You are the face of give me money if you're against racism.

01:15:06.000 Anyone in corporate America who wants to be seen as virtuously contributing to the anti-racist

01:15:10.000 cause has to give money to me.

01:15:12.000 How did you go broke?

01:15:14.000 How how did you go broke?

01:15:16.000 Well, they were spending a lot of questionable sums of money.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:15:20.000 Hiring family members.

01:15:21.000 I'm and their cause is a scam anyway.

01:15:24.000 Yep.

01:15:25.000 Well, exactly right, because there's never going to be any end point for them.

01:15:28.000 At what point?

01:15:29.000 I mean, come on.

01:15:30.000 At what point was Bill?

01:15:31.000 I'm going to say, all right, we solved racism and I will and I will and I will clarify that

01:15:35.000 statement anyway.

01:15:36.000 I am saying the idea.

01:15:38.000 That has perpetrated, what did that kid say, 30% of black people are killed every year?

01:15:45.000 These ideas of this mass systemic inequality is just completely untrue.

01:15:50.000 Is there racism?

01:15:50.000 Yes.

01:15:51.000 Is there racism in government?

01:15:51.000 There is.

01:15:52.000 Are there racist people?

01:15:53.000 Yes, there are.

01:15:54.000 To the degree that they've brought it up, it's not true.

01:15:56.000 George Zimmerman was a Hispanic guy.

01:15:58.000 So this whole idea is launched off of this idea of racism from white people and it's

01:16:04.000 like you mean when that Hispanic guy fought with that kid?

01:16:07.000 Like what are you talking about?

01:16:08.000 Or when Michael Brown, it's confirmed by the Eric Holder AG, that he did not have his hands

01:16:13.000 up and fought the cop?

01:16:16.000 Like we get it, men.

01:16:17.000 We don't want innocent people dying, especially based on race.

01:16:20.000 But the premise of what you're donating to doesn't make sense.

01:16:25.000 But hey, I don't know what they did with it.

01:16:26.000 They're getting flak because they bought this big house.

01:16:30.000 But if they bought a house to do a studio or something, what are you gonna complain about?

01:16:33.000 I don't think anybody who donated to BLM is crying about it right now.

01:16:36.000 Some people maybe, but most people are probably fine that they donated to them.

01:16:40.000 $1.5 million went to Patrice's brother for security.

01:16:44.000 $1.5 million for security.

01:16:47.000 And then you gotta ask, so there are questions about they said they didn't want to do traditional security or

01:16:51.000 police because of the distrust around policing.

01:16:54.000 But people think these sums of money means she wrote a check for a million and a half bucks to a guy

01:17:00.000 and then he bought a Ferrari. No, no, no.

01:17:02.000 This could have been licensing equipment, staffing.

01:17:04.000 Right.

01:17:05.000 So, she also gave a guy $970,000 for live events, or the organization gave for live events, and everyone's like, oh, that dude probably didn't see that money.

01:17:13.000 Right.

01:17:14.000 Organizing live events is very, very, very expensive.

01:17:16.000 I just want to mention something, because Tim, you said that, you know, the people who donated to BLM probably aren't too upset.

01:17:22.000 I just want to let everyone in this room know that We've all donated to BLM because J.B.

01:17:27.000 Pritzker gave $300,000 in federal COVID relief money to BLM.

01:17:32.000 Well, I mean, if you live in Illinois.

01:17:35.000 But no, it was federal COVID relief money.

01:17:36.000 Right, right, right.

01:17:37.000 Yeah, that went to him from the federal government, they said.

01:17:38.000 And Pritzker said, you know what?

01:17:40.000 You know how we're going to relieve people of COVID?

01:17:42.000 Giving money to BLM?

01:17:44.000 Okay, thank you.

01:17:45.000 I can tell you at Turning Point, running a large nonprofit that we've been very blessed to raise a lot of money.

01:17:51.000 We've hired and staffing... We've staffed thousands of people over the years.

01:17:56.000 We have right now and staff hundreds and hundreds of people between our organization.

01:18:00.000 Building that within a year, You know, where did all that money go is a really great question because, I mean, we're not talking about $10 million.

01:18:08.000 We're not talking about $15 million.

01:18:10.000 We're talking about literally they were in, they had transactionally hundreds of millions of dollars that they had access to essentially in capital that they worked with.

01:18:20.000 Where did all the money go?

01:18:23.000 That's a great question, right?

01:18:24.000 Because they didn't... Where are all the staff?

01:18:25.000 Where's the BLM staff?

01:18:26.000 I know what it cost to put on a massive live event.

01:18:29.000 I know what it cost to put on these huge things.

01:18:32.000 They didn't do any of that.

01:18:33.000 So, you know, what we know of is just a very small sliver of what really bad things that probably did actually happen because you don't know these things when C3s, C4s, they file this stuff away.

01:18:45.000 I'm not even convinced BLM did anything untoward in a certain sense.

01:18:50.000 You give them money, they can do what they want with it.

01:18:53.000 There's no way you can build a $100 million organization in basically a year or two years.

01:18:58.000 That's what they had to do.

01:19:00.000 But I mean, the same people were involved since 2013.

01:19:02.000 Right.

01:19:03.000 But they built the actual organization within a year after getting all that money.

01:19:08.000 Because they were just taking in money based off of the news and the climate and from corporate America.

01:19:13.000 They just didn't have the capability of actually building this thing, so it's not a surprise that they've completely failed.

01:19:20.000 Yeah.

01:19:21.000 No, but I think that the important takeaway, as I mentioned earlier, is whatever it is that's resulting in people not wanting to give BLM money is going to have a similar rollover effect on everything else.

01:19:30.000 Yeah.

01:19:31.000 And I think there's a lot of people who are wising up, you know, we were skating in Hagerstown, I mentioned this the other day, and a bunch of local suburban Maryland people were like, yo, crime is getting out of control, what's going on?

01:19:43.000 And then these people started talking about gun ownership, gun rights, and I'm like, there it is!

01:19:47.000 2A's gonna be stronger, Trump's gonna win, and it's because these suburbanite people are tied to the violent crime and the cops are doing nothing about it.

01:19:54.000 What do you do, though?

01:19:55.000 Right? 0.92

01:19:55.000 If your neighborhood is falling to crap, eventually you have nothing to do but just ask that question. 0.92

01:19:59.000 Yep. 0.77

01:20:00.000 And then you end up voting for the right guy.

01:20:05.000 All roads lead to the same place when you're, you know, when you have a, actually the constitutional principles being followed.

01:20:11.000 And that's part of the reason why they want to destroy all of it.

01:20:13.000 That's why they want to subvert all this with, you know, crazy stuff.

01:20:16.000 Like, you know, I saw some things on national popular vote, not to take us off, but rank choice voting, this stuff is really scary because no matter what the public sentiment is, they're trying to subvert whatever that is.

01:20:28.000 That's, that's the future.

01:20:30.000 That's what we're up against right now in the United States of America.

01:20:33.000 And they were winning.

01:20:33.000 Last 10 years.

01:20:34.000 I think there's bad stuff going on, but the bad stuff is just accelerating regular people waking up.

01:20:38.000 Hopefully, yeah.

01:20:39.000 Let's talk about Joe Biden's broken brain.

01:20:41.000 From TimGuess.com, 7 in 10 independents are worried about Biden's mental fitness. 0.51

01:20:46.000 Worried about?

01:20:47.000 How about convinced there is none?

01:20:49.000 He doesn't have mental fitness.

01:20:51.000 They say a new poll has found that nearly 7 in 10 registered independents are worried about President Joe Biden's mental fitness ahead of the 2024 election.

01:20:58.000 This is NPR PBS NewsHour Marist.

01:21:01.000 Pollers on Wednesday found that 69% of registered independents believe his mental fitness is a genuine concern, while 27% believe his mental fitness is being used as a campaign strategy by opponents.

01:21:12.000 I love this.

01:21:13.000 Because the way you frame a question always matters.

01:21:16.000 If I were to ask the average person, do you think Joe Biden's brain is broken?

01:21:20.000 I bet 70% say yes.

01:21:21.000 If you were then to ask him, is it a concern?

01:21:24.000 70% say yes.

01:21:26.000 You see how they do this?

01:21:31.000 I can't imagine how people can have any kind of awareness of the president and not say, well, it kind of, you know, Listen to him, you know, I mean, that's that's your standard kind of the reply that you would expect from the average person that doesn't pay a whole lot of attention to politics.

01:21:48.000 If you've only got, you know, if you dedicate 15 minutes a day to watching a little bit of news, so that way you feel like you have an idea about what people are talking about and you hear Joe Biden.

01:22:01.000 Twice a week?

01:22:04.000 You can't feel confident that this guy's, you know, laser-focused on what's going on.

01:22:10.000 I can't imagine how that is, and obviously it's showing in the polls.

01:22:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I just don't know how you could have seen Joe Biden say anything in public and not be worried about the status of his mental health.

01:22:22.000 The best, the best the man does at public speaking is Slurring his words instead of constantly gaffing.

01:22:30.000 I remember when we watched his State of the Union address about a year and a half ago, and it was probably the best he'd sounded in the last year and a half, but he did sound drunk the entire time.

01:22:41.000 I'm not saying he was drunk, I'm just saying his brain operates in such a way.

01:22:46.000 That when he speaks normally he slurs his words to the point where he sounds intoxicated.

01:22:52.000 I think that one of the one of the negatives about the way that the Twitter space went today is I don't see a convincing Argument to get the president on a Twitter space had this gone perfectly and it been great and and hadn't everything worked fine Then you could then you could argue.

01:23:13.000 Okay, we have to get the you know, get more presidential candidates on the more you get the more pressure it is on Trump and and Biden I would like to see that happen but I feel like that was probably the biggest the biggest negative about this is the fact that it's it's It doesn't lend credibility to independent media and stuff the way that that I had hoped that it would.

01:23:38.000 Well, Joe Biden would benefit from this like FDR did.

01:23:41.000 There is no way Joe Biden.

01:23:42.000 Yeah, Joe Biden again.

01:23:43.000 I mean, I would watch him wander around stage for an hour.

01:23:47.000 But I mean, this is like, I was thinking about this today.

01:23:50.000 What greater, you know, this is the BLM crossover here.

01:23:53.000 What greater vision of white privilege could possibly exist than the media and everyone else covering for Joe Biden and Hunter Biden?

01:24:03.000 Like literally they've been trying to indoctrinate our kids.

01:24:08.000 All of society, basically, on this false notion of white privilege, and you've got an old guy in there that just wanders around stage, they run cover for him the entire time, his son is like literally the worst presidential kid ever to exist in the history, should be in jail for the rest of his life, and they're not talking about white privilege now? 0.59

01:24:32.000 This is crazy!

01:24:34.000 It's a wild thing.

01:24:34.000 He's like, he's like the ultimate nepo baby that's ever existed.

01:24:38.000 Seriously.

01:24:38.000 Yeah.

01:24:38.000 And so Joe Biden though, Joe Biden is benefiting from like the nepotistic elements of media where like they're covering for him because he can't literally conduct himself in a, in a public setting.

01:24:50.000 It's crazy.

01:24:51.000 Yeah, Hunter Biden is really a remarkable character.

01:24:53.000 He is a caricature of what Republicans suspected a Democratic president's child could get away with.

01:24:59.000 Like, really?

01:25:00.000 Smoking crack?

01:25:01.000 That sounds like a joke, right?

01:25:03.000 The man got on national television and said he has spent more time picking through the carpet for anything that even remotely resembles crack cocaine that he smoked more Parmesan cheese than anyone you know.

01:25:15.000 And that's not even talking about his dad's mental health.

01:25:17.000 Yeah.

01:25:18.000 His dad's mental health should be disqualifying.

01:25:20.000 Incompletely!

01:25:21.000 Remember when Nancy Pelosi was preparing the 25th Amendment Committee or whatever? 0.99

01:25:25.000 And everyone's like, it's for Trump!

01:25:26.000 And then they went, wait, no, it's for Biden.

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 I mean, the man is... But that's white privilege, my friends.

01:25:33.000 I mean, the guy is getting away with, like, the kill shot white privilege out of the left.

01:25:38.000 We should be demanding they hold themselves accountable to white privilege at this point, since they've spent so much time on it. 0.83

01:25:44.000 Just embrace the white privilege narrative, but focus on Joe Biden.

01:25:46.000 Just focus on Joe Biden.

01:25:48.000 Yeah, just use it against them to destroy it.

01:25:50.000 That could help someone like Vivek Ramaswamy. 0.99

01:25:52.000 But then there'll be like, but Trump's an old white man, too. 0.94

01:25:55.000 And it's like, all right, well, then why don't you talk smack about both of them? 0.75

01:25:57.000 Yeah, but the reality is the left doesn't like Joe Biden anyway.

01:25:59.000 Liberals are the ones who vote for him.

01:26:02.000 But I don't think anybody actually likes him.

01:26:03.000 I think they're just like, we'll take any warm body over Donald Trump.

01:26:07.000 Yeah, you're right, though.

01:26:08.000 They wrote that article.

01:26:09.000 Vivek should focus exclusively on this kind of stuff.

01:26:12.000 Well, it's his campaign.

01:26:13.000 He's totally opposed to it.

01:26:15.000 That's why he should focus on it.

01:26:16.000 He should take advantage of it and be like, I'm going to win because you're going to demand that I win, and then I'm going to change the laws and take away the ability of this to happen again.

01:26:24.000 That'd be great.

01:26:25.000 In the meantime, we have to hope that Joe Biden doesn't accidentally, like, press the button or something.

01:26:29.000 Well, yeah.

01:26:31.000 That wouldn't even be that much of a scandal.

01:26:32.000 They would try to spin that, too.

01:26:34.000 Like, it was a mostly peaceful nuking.

01:26:36.000 I bet Kamala Harris is the actual president.

01:26:39.000 Because he keeps calling her President Kamala.

01:26:41.000 President Harris.

01:26:42.000 I think it's far more likely that Barack Obama's phoning it in than Kamala Harris is doing it.

01:26:49.000 I'm deathly scared, you know, being the Arizonan here, I'm deathly afraid of this concept of potentially Kyrsten Sinema replacing Kamala Harris.

01:26:58.000 What do you mean?

01:27:00.000 There's something really funny going on in Arizona.

01:27:03.000 You mean like when Joe runs, Sinema's going to be the... She doesn't have a real shot, I don't think, at running for Senate. 1.00

01:27:10.000 The pathway's not there unless there's something that's totally crazy.

01:27:14.000 So it's like, what is she doing?

01:27:17.000 She has way too much money. 1.00

01:27:18.000 She's loved by the Chamber of Commerce.

01:27:20.000 She's loved by the establishment goons. 1.00

01:27:24.000 I'm really afraid that they're going to just do this switcheroo, the swapperoo, and involve her in some way. 0.99

01:27:31.000 Because again, you have to look at the map.

01:27:33.000 You guys have talked about it here.

01:27:34.000 You talked about it with Charlie, which is part of what we talk about.

01:27:37.000 Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia is everything.

01:27:39.000 Yeah.

01:27:40.000 So, like, getting Arizona taken care of basically takes the map off the table for the Republicans.

01:27:45.000 And then people hate Harris.

01:27:47.000 They despise her.

01:27:48.000 They hate her.

01:27:48.000 You put in a Sinema and she's lukewarm.

01:27:51.000 Yeah.

01:27:51.000 But a lot of people will be like, okay, well, Biden's incompetent, but Sinema's, you know, eh.

01:27:55.000 She's cool.

01:27:55.000 She's whatever.

01:27:56.000 Right?

01:27:57.000 Yeah.

01:27:57.000 And then I wonder if you have to have a DeSantis just because Trump, I don't think Trump can change his standing with the American people.

01:28:04.000 You either like him or you don't.

01:28:05.000 Some people are either for his policies or they're not.

01:28:08.000 I think enough people would be in favor of Trump at this point, but he's got maximum name recognition.

01:28:13.000 Everybody knows.

01:28:14.000 And so if DeSantis is an opportunity for something new, I think he kind of blew it today, but I still think he can recover.

01:28:22.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of time left here, but it's an eternity.

01:28:26.000 I mean, at this point, I heard someone talking about it today.

01:28:28.000 At this point in the 2008 campaign, it was Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton that were obviously going to be the people that were- Giuliani, they thought that?

01:28:41.000 Yeah, at this point, this far out, they said that Giuliani and Clinton.

01:28:45.000 No one could figure out, you know, it was like obvious and blah blah blah and then this young senator from Illinois popped his head up and...

01:28:54.000 Oh, man, Hillary was so pissed. 1.00

01:28:56.000 Yeah, she was.

01:28:56.000 It was her turn.

01:28:57.000 I love it.

01:28:58.000 And then Obama beat her. 0.99

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:29:00.000 They didn't have their ducks in a row at the DNC.

01:29:02.000 Yep.

01:29:03.000 Well, they still don't, I guess.

01:29:04.000 I don't know if anybody actually in government has their ducks in a row, be it the committees or the PACs or the campaigns, the parties.

01:29:12.000 It's all just insane nonsense.

01:29:15.000 Well, the DNC controls the process now after that happened.

01:29:19.000 That's why Bernie came.

01:29:24.000 The DNC has had their finger on the scale for the DNC, definitely since Donald Trump was elected.

01:29:34.000 Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton was not supposed to happen.

01:29:38.000 And after that, Federal government has had their finger on the scale as much as they can.

01:29:45.000 They have been pumping out as much propaganda to all of the legacy media establishments that will take it.

01:29:55.000 The government looked at Donald Trump and said, this is a really bad thing and it's been doing its best to make sure that Donald Trump can't get elected again.

01:30:05.000 Well, a lot of that comes down to the unpreparedness that the Democrats had in Michigan, which again, you want to bring up things that will never happen again.

01:30:13.000 They will never let Michigan slide out of their hands again.

01:30:17.000 It would take a whole lot.

01:30:18.000 It would take a massive, massive undertaking, a massive army for us to win Michigan.

01:30:25.000 But is Michigan one of the principal states we've got to win in 2024?

01:30:28.000 It's one of only six or seven that matter.

01:30:30.000 And you look at what they did with the election law in Michigan, basically making it impossible for us to overcome cheating there, manipulation, not to get too far into the weeds.

01:30:42.000 But I mean, they spend tens of millions of dollars on ballot chasing, ballot harvesting.

01:30:47.000 And until the right can match that, you're not going to get close enough to be able to even think about overcoming in the manipulation that they do in those states.

01:30:57.000 All right, let's go to Super Chats!

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01:31:09.000 You don't want to miss it, but we'll read your Super Chats for now.

01:31:13.000 We got Max Dali says, head greater than heart, substance greater than sentiment, DeSantis 2024.

01:31:19.000 It's a great slogan that will not play at all for the average American who only really cares about how you sound on stage.

01:31:25.000 It's unfortunate, but it's true. 1.00

01:31:27.000 So what we need in a president is someone who is clearly a charismatic leader who understands the policies, the position, the culture war.

01:31:35.000 We're not trying to get the B-team.

01:31:37.000 I would take someone who's great with policy over someone who just spoke well any day of the week.

01:31:44.000 We need somebody who speaks well and knows the policies so that we can win.

01:31:48.000 That's a leader.

01:31:52.000 What do we got?

01:31:53.000 Purple says, Twitter space, low energy, basic answers.

01:31:58.000 I agree.

01:31:59.000 Very low energy.

01:32:02.000 Bramit says, I just want to know how you could not call the pumpkin coffee Hocus Bocus, the spiced pumpkin brew.

01:32:08.000 Ooh, that's good.

01:32:10.000 Mr. Bocus pumpkin spice experience.

01:32:13.000 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 Focus with Mr. Bocus will be a medium roast, I think.

01:32:15.000 That's what we're working on.

01:32:16.000 All right.

01:32:17.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:32:18.000 says, Tim, sir, Mr. Poole, I loved your North Face segment.

01:32:21.000 I agree.

01:32:22.000 Once they started targeting children, they ripped the fence out from underneath us.

01:32:26.000 There will be a reckoning for the line.

01:32:27.000 Yeah, my point was basically this.

01:32:29.000 I don't care if North Face wants to do a Drag Queen promo, I just won't buy North Face.

01:32:34.000 But now that they've moved beyond that into targeting kids, I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope, all of it, none.

01:32:41.000 It's basically like, I'll put it this way.

01:32:42.000 Dude shows up to your party, you don't know who he is, and you're like, okay, look, I don't know this guy, but, you know, my friend brought him over, it's fine.

01:32:50.000 Once the dude starts going over little kids and trying to sniff them, we say, get out, get out, get out.

01:32:55.000 We were fine with you here, but now you're doing the weird kid stuff, out of the building, go home.

01:32:59.000 That's how I feel about it.

01:33:04.000 Where are we at?

01:33:06.000 Dylan Binkley says, on the show the other night, you brought up Governor Gianforte legally defining gender in the state of Montana.

01:33:13.000 You should have Rep. 0.57

01:33:14.000 Michelle Binkley on and talk about Montana politics more in depth.

01:33:17.000 Love you, Tim.

01:33:19.000 Sounds good.

01:33:20.000 Are you Dylan Binkley related to Rep.

01:33:22.000 Michelle Binkley, perhaps?

01:33:25.000 We'll see.

01:33:28.000 That's the kind of Riz energy that DeSantis needs. 1.00

01:33:32.000 Get in there.

01:33:33.000 Promoting his own family.

01:33:34.000 There you go.

01:33:36.000 Robert Bradbury says, let's go Ron E.D.

01:33:39.000 take down the guy that tried to violate 2A with the bump stock ban.

01:33:43.000 I think he lost that one, though.

01:33:45.000 The bump stock ban thing?

01:33:45.000 No, they're illegal.

01:33:48.000 The court struck it down, I'm pretty sure.

01:33:50.000 You might be right.

01:33:52.000 It's just that the stores that sold them no longer sell them already.

01:33:54.000 So they did what they needed it to do.

01:33:59.000 Angela Richter says, why would he phone in his announcement?

01:34:02.000 It was horrible.

01:34:03.000 If I were him, I would say it was all a joke and hideout.

01:34:07.000 Yikes.

01:34:09.000 TRX Pet Shop says, DeSantis should wait his turn.

01:34:12.000 He would be a great president in 2028.

01:34:15.000 What's the deal with Carrie Lake's lawsuit? 0.80

01:34:16.000 Does Tyler have any pets?

01:34:18.000 We are an anti-woke alternative to Woke, Petsmart, Chewy, and Petco.

01:34:23.000 I've got pets.

01:34:24.000 Yeah, what's going on with Carrie Lake?

01:34:27.000 Well, first off, I have a Golden Retriever and I have a Wirefox Terrier, but they're both Gilligan and Skipper.

01:34:35.000 Carrie Lake, so just talked to Carrie's team, you know, been big allies with Carrie throughout this election. 1.00

01:34:43.000 You know, she just, you have to understand the courts are not our friend.

01:34:49.000 You're not going to get, we're not going to get where we want to go in a state like Arizona where you have Establishment control for 50 years.

01:34:58.000 I mean, we're talking 50 years.

01:35:00.000 McCain machine has installed all of these judges.

01:35:03.000 Judges work their way up the ladder over the course of their entire lifetime.

01:35:07.000 And so if you're expecting the courts to be your friend in a place like Arizona or Texas, it's just not going to happen.

01:35:16.000 And so it's kind of a mistake.

01:35:17.000 It's a flawed strategy, in my opinion.

01:35:19.000 I just don't think it's going to result.

01:35:21.000 It's not.

01:35:22.000 It's not resulting for Kerry.

01:35:24.000 We know that they did a lot of wrong things.

01:35:26.000 And unfortunately, we don't have attorneys.

01:35:29.000 We don't have a legion of attorneys who are going to step up.

01:35:31.000 They're going to basically have the intestinal fortitude to fight the good fight until losing their law license like the left out.

01:35:39.000 And that's where we're at right now across America.

01:35:41.000 That's just not an Arizona thing.

01:35:42.000 That's across America.

01:35:44.000 So, you know, we're going to have to take some significant strategy here.

01:35:47.000 And I think this is part of, you know, I'm on the RNC.

01:35:50.000 The RNC, I've been very vocal about this, has not done its job with producing the hundred plus attorneys that we need that can go fight the good fight and build our own Perkins Coy.

01:36:02.000 We just don't have it.

01:36:04.000 Alright, Matt Burkhart says, all these Trump supporters roasting Ron are actively pushing for Democrat wins for years.

01:36:11.000 Trump will lose to Biden again.

01:36:12.000 Killing Ron's momentum will leave ours with nobody else.

01:36:16.000 We are telling you, Ron DeSantis lacks the charisma to win.

01:36:22.000 It doesn't matter what anyone else says.

01:36:24.000 It doesn't matter what Trump supporters say.

01:36:26.000 I'm telling you, you can't have a guy get up on stage and say, truth matters, and freedom is worth fighting for.

01:36:34.000 Because people are going to be like, what's he talking about?

01:36:36.000 You gotta get up there and go, the truth matters in this country.

01:36:41.000 You've got to have some emotion.

01:36:43.000 Maybe not Trump, but you've got to say, listen, in this country, truth matters and freedom is worth fighting for.

01:36:49.000 That's why I'm here.

01:36:51.000 He can't even do that.

01:36:53.000 Well, and I'll say this.

01:36:54.000 I have no idea.

01:36:55.000 I mean, maybe DeSantis could win with his current level of charisma.

01:36:58.000 I'm not making any predictions about the future, but what I will say is if you really like a candidate and you want to help make him stronger, constructive criticism is an important part of that.

01:37:07.000 And what I am saying and what I've said repeatedly is I like DeSantis.

01:37:10.000 I like a lot of what DeSantis has done through his entire political career.

01:37:13.000 Even before COVID, I found him interesting and liked the things that he said.

01:37:17.000 However, That doesn't mean he's perfect.

01:37:20.000 And one of his flaws is a pretty major flaw, which is that when he speaks, it's not all that engaging.

01:37:27.000 We can say that to him with the hopes of him working that out in a way that makes him more electable without being against him.

01:37:35.000 In fact, quite to the contrary, we want him to improve as a candidate.

01:37:39.000 That's why we're saying this.

01:37:40.000 At least that's why I'm saying this.

01:37:43.000 I want DeSantis to be as successful as DeSantis can be.

01:37:47.000 And I think that pretending that he doesn't have a charisma problem isn't going to help him.

01:37:52.000 How do you practice charisma?

01:37:53.000 How do you get better at it?

01:37:55.000 I don't know, but I do know that there's a reason that political leaders will spend obscene amounts of money with people who coach them to try to become more charismatic.

01:38:04.000 And I would suspect that's because they see results.

01:38:07.000 There are channels on YouTube.

01:38:08.000 Hmm.

01:38:09.000 Yeah, like I'm not trying to be so harsh on on DeSantis I guess my point is just I the thing is why I find myself loving Just so much of what he says is really great Like I like what he says and I like a lot of what he's done.

01:38:21.000 I think he's been one of the He's one of the few Republican leaders that we've seen in the past decade.

01:38:27.000 He's been one of the best Republican leaders we've seen in the past decade.

01:38:30.000 And I think that it is a shame that that message is going to be lost on so many people because there are people who support him and around him who are invested in not having him hear anything that will cause him to want to improve his delivery.

01:38:44.000 I would want to push back on that a little bit because I don't feel like he says anything that's new.

01:38:48.000 I don't think that... I totally disagree.

01:38:50.000 You think that he says new things?

01:38:51.000 Well, I mentioned this earlier.

01:38:53.000 Where he was on COVID was so far outside of the status quo that at the time it was very much a new thing.

01:39:00.000 Now, because he was clearly on the right side of that issue, he's at the disadvantage of being so correct so soon where it doesn't even seem like an interesting position anymore.

01:39:10.000 But I think that's a good thing.

01:39:10.000 It means he moved the goalposts in the right direction.

01:39:12.000 Hey, even Michael Scott took improv classes.

01:39:16.000 Ron DeSantis probably needs to take a few improv classes.

01:39:20.000 Realize you can be funny without being funny.

01:39:22.000 Meaning to be funny, which is like Trump does a lot of that, right?

01:39:25.000 He's just funny.

01:39:25.000 He's just a funny guy.

01:39:27.000 He gets up and starts talking and improv-ing his speeches and people are like, I like that guy.

01:39:31.000 He's kind of funny.

01:39:32.000 He's kind of normal.

01:39:32.000 He's weird like my uncle or like my grandpa or whatever.

01:39:37.000 But you can also be funny, like Reagan was funny, where it was like he was classically trained.

01:39:42.000 He was an actor, right?

01:39:43.000 He was an actor.

01:39:46.000 It's even like regular speech.

01:39:48.000 I feel like even when I just speak to people in general, just normally talking to them, I have more inflection and more character.

01:39:53.000 He just seemed flat and monotone like he was reading, like right off the prompter.

01:39:57.000 And I don't know, that doesn't really sit well with me or most Americans these days, you know?

01:40:01.000 I just don't have any kind of particular allegiance to Ron DeSantis.

01:40:04.000 I know that there are people out there that are like, you know, he would be more electable than Trump, etc.

01:40:09.000 And I don't think so because even if he were to take the nomination, the entire establishment and all of the propaganda that comes along with it is going to be turned against him and they're going to demonize him in the exact same way that they did Trump.

01:40:30.000 All of the pieces are in place to make Ron DeSantis worse than Donald Trump.

01:40:36.000 They've already started saying those things.

01:40:38.000 I think Bill Kristol called him a beta.

01:40:39.000 He called Trump an alpha.

01:40:41.000 Like what was that even?

01:40:42.000 That was kind of weird.

01:40:43.000 That's like some weird, like what is he some like 30 year old guy with a podcast in the nanosphere?

01:40:48.000 This guy's a beta. 0.99

01:40:50.000 Don't give me that red pill crap. 0.99

01:40:51.000 Everybody's bank account noticed a significant decrease without Donald Trump in office. 0.99

01:40:58.000 And that's all it is.

01:40:59.000 Yeah.

01:41:00.000 Yeah.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, but you know, it's also personality like people watch your show because they're just like look I Like that person.

01:41:08.000 I like that vibe that he puts out and it's consistent and it's and it there's there's a normalcy to it that like people just have Like normal quirks about them when you have a politician that isn't quirky That doesn't have things that you can see and you can follow and you can get every time that you you turn on the TV basically People start to lose interest.

01:41:29.000 And that's the world that we're in today.

01:41:31.000 Totally.

01:41:31.000 Especially in a post-Trump world.

01:41:32.000 Is there like... I turn on the TV because even if I don't like Trump, he's hilarious and he's quirky and he's weird and I'm going to get something out of it.

01:41:41.000 Tripwire says, don't get me wrong, I love what DeSantis has been doing in Florida, but he did say if Trump ran in 2024, he wouldn't.

01:41:48.000 His campaign to be is founded on a lie.

01:41:52.000 Makes me now wonder if all he has done was just pretense to run for POTUS.

01:41:58.000 Yep.

01:41:59.000 Yeah.

01:42:00.000 Yeah, a lot of people were like, he's just throwing you red meat.

01:42:02.000 He's telling you what you want to hear.

01:42:04.000 That way he gets elected.

01:42:05.000 And then it's neocon city all over again.

01:42:08.000 I'm not saying I believe it to be true.

01:42:09.000 Because he actually did these things in Florida.

01:42:11.000 So you know, we got what we wanted.

01:42:13.000 We got everything.

01:42:16.000 I just don't think he has the charisma.

01:42:17.000 But Trump cleared a lane for him in Florida.

01:42:19.000 I think that all the missiles were directed at Trump and Mar-a-Lago in Florida, where it's really alleviated and created a pathway for Ron DeSantis.

01:42:28.000 And again, the unwinnable subject matter here, Florida for Democrats, has allowed it to cut off here.

01:42:36.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:42:37.000 I was just going to say this last point.

01:42:42.000 The Democrats pulled out of Florida in 2022.

01:42:45.000 Like, let's be real.

01:42:47.000 All of the groups, the big groups that are over the top of the DNC, they pulled out of Florida.

01:42:52.000 And part of that is Trump, and some of it's DeSantis, but a large portion of this is Trump.

01:43:02.000 DeSantis won't last 10 seconds against the corrupt Democrat party. 0.99

01:43:05.000 They're going to eat him alive.

01:43:07.000 Well, and this is something that people are saying is like, well, you know, Joe Biden wasn't very charismatic.

01:43:12.000 Why would DeSantis seem to be charismatic?

01:43:14.000 I think we can all agree, without even having to get into too much detail, that Biden had certain unfair advantages that DeSantis is not going to have.

01:43:21.000 The entire dominant media culture was on his side.

01:43:23.000 They literally published an article saying, this is how we coalesce to ensure that this guy would get elected.

01:43:27.000 No one's going to do that for DeSantis.

01:43:28.000 They're going to work against DeSantis.

01:43:30.000 Yep.

01:43:31.000 They said, stay alive, Joe Biden.

01:43:32.000 All we need is your corporeal form.

01:43:35.000 That's right.

01:43:35.000 And also, like, I want to make it really clear.

01:43:38.000 I am not making any election or any predictions about the election or who's more electable or how it's going to pan out.

01:43:45.000 I am just saying it doesn't hurt anyone for DeSantis to become more charismatic.

01:43:49.000 It does not hurt anyone.

01:43:51.000 And it could become it could be massively instrumental in ensuring that his message is heard and taken seriously by a larger percentage of the American population.

01:43:59.000 Eric Cecil says, pretty ironic you're criticizing Elon and DeSantis for a few glitches on Twitter, on a Twitter space, when you couldn't even set up audio at a bar in Austin, Texas for the entire event.

01:44:09.000 Also, Trump can't beat Biden, DeSantis will.

01:44:11.000 You weren't running for president!

01:44:12.000 I think it's pretty funny that...

01:44:14.000 Comparing a 12-way microphone setup, because it wasn't just people on stage, with multiple cameras and a sound system for a live event and livestream, comparing that to three guys sitting in a room with their phones sitting in front of them is remarkable.

01:44:32.000 If we were going to do TeamCastIRL on Twitter Spaces, I'd put the phone right in front of me and I'd press play, and then we'd talk.

01:44:38.000 That's it.

01:44:39.000 Now, I understand there are issues with the entirety of the Twitter infrastructure and what it can handle, that's fine, but the fact that Elon unmuted his microphone while the guy sitting next to him was speaking, causing a feedback loop, and then the guy mutes his account mid-speech, those are human errors.

01:44:57.000 And, like Shaman said, We're not running for president!

01:45:01.000 Our budget for this thing was like $30,000.

01:45:02.000 like it was like twenty or thirty like it was like thirty thousand dollars

01:45:05.000 we're not launching a multi-billion dollar presidential campaign

01:45:09.000 but you know what I'll still give you credit.

01:45:12.000 We should have better audio.

01:45:14.000 You know?

01:45:15.000 But come on.

01:45:16.000 DeSantis is running for president.

01:45:17.000 And what do we get?

01:45:18.000 This placid announcement phoned in.

01:45:21.000 It's remarkable.

01:45:22.000 No event.

01:45:23.000 No peep.

01:45:23.000 No video.

01:45:24.000 That's because people around him are telling him, be more boring.

01:45:28.000 They're telling him to do that.

01:45:30.000 Because of because of Trump being too bombastic?

01:45:32.000 Yeah, but again, I think the the real optics of this is Trump needs to be more boring.

01:45:39.000 Right.

01:45:39.000 But Ron DeSantis needs to be more vivacious.

01:45:41.000 Yeah.

01:45:42.000 I guess I'm gonna have to run, you know, because I'm the only person I believe can do it right now.

01:45:48.000 I would never go anywhere near that.

01:45:49.000 I think Trump's the guy right now.

01:45:51.000 Trump's the guy who's going to go and just fire everybody.

01:45:53.000 Yeah.

01:45:54.000 There's no guarantee he does.

01:45:56.000 We may look back on an episode like this and be like, man, were we wrong?

01:45:59.000 Trump brought the swamp back or something like that.

01:46:00.000 Who knows?

01:46:01.000 But our best bet in my mind, based on the data available as of this date, May 24th, 2023, is that Trump is the guy who is most likely to fight.

01:46:09.000 Biden's going to hire more.

01:46:11.000 DeSantis may, but probably will negotiate Trump fires.

01:46:16.000 Yeah.

01:46:18.000 I hope.

01:46:20.000 No says, please someone bottle this, it's better than melatonin.

01:46:24.000 Well yeah, you know, tonight after the show I'm going to play DeSantis' announcement speech so I can get to bed early.

01:46:33.000 Yeah, put us to sleep, that's for sure.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, it didn't hype things up ahead of time.

01:46:37.000 I was really hoping that we'd go into this whole thing with a really big hype story with this and it was a snooze fest.

01:46:44.000 Calisthenics Earth says he would have been much better off just announcing it on an interview with Jon Stossel, have it released with the full interview being dropped, uh, that dropped yesterday.

01:46:52.000 Seriously.

01:46:53.000 Yeah.

01:46:53.000 He could have just made a Twitter video and it would have been a better launch where he's like, hi, I'm announcing I'm running for president because truth matters.

01:47:01.000 Hey, at least Jon Stossel has that like dateline over the top voice, you know?

01:47:05.000 Yeah.

01:47:05.000 That was good.

01:47:06.000 Exciting.

01:47:06.000 Good dude.

01:47:08.000 Michael Page says, Ron DeSandman.

01:47:11.000 Oh boy, here come the memes.

01:47:13.000 John Jones says, Ron DeServer crashed.

01:47:19.000 Clintus says, who are Ron DeSantis' donors?

01:47:24.000 Who are they?

01:47:25.000 Ken Griffin?

01:47:28.000 Ken Griffin.

01:47:29.000 Yeah.

01:47:29.000 Big one.

01:47:32.000 Sad- what does it say?

01:47:33.000 Saddle effing Tramp says, DeSantis' campaign announcement was making his appeal to a jury, not a mob.

01:47:38.000 He needs to appeal to a mob like Trump can.

01:47:42.000 If they're really telling him to be boring, man, this will be the shortest campaign ever.

01:47:46.000 It'll spiral out.

01:47:48.000 Because people are not- you can't keep people's attention.

01:47:51.000 Part of what helped Trump win was the negative press.

01:47:53.000 His name constantly being in the media no matter what.

01:47:58.000 MSNBC gave him, what, like a billion dollars worth of time or something?

01:48:02.000 CNBC gave him, I think, five billion dollar equivalent, they reported.

01:48:05.000 In just saying his name non-stop.

01:48:07.000 Aaron says, give me Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:48:09.000 Bring policy and delivery.

01:48:12.000 Seriously, he's great.

01:48:13.000 Yeah.

01:48:15.000 Jake says, it's incredibly ironic that a Santa's colors Biden's vaccinated is unconstitutional, but went out of his way to preserve Florida's law, allowing police officers to forcibly vaccinate civilians.

01:48:25.000 That doesn't sound real.

01:48:27.000 Do they have that?

01:48:29.000 That's crazy.

01:48:30.000 TheGreatAnywho says he has the perfect lawyer voice.

01:48:33.000 Hmm.

01:48:36.000 I don't like hearing from lawyers.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:41.000 N. Espos says, I don't understand.

01:48:42.000 Is it Trump or nothing?

01:48:43.000 DeSantis was the first yes politician that saved my job.

01:48:47.000 The first yes politician?

01:48:48.000 No other politician, including Trump, did that.

01:48:50.000 Focus on policy, not fanfare.

01:48:53.000 Spoken like someone who is smart, but not good with people.

01:48:57.000 So many Republicans have that logic, but no feeling, no emotion, and they don't get it.

01:49:03.000 Democrats know emotion is everything, they invest in it, and Republicans are like logic.

01:49:07.000 Republicans are the ones who are going to go out and be like, if you vote for me, I'll explain to you in this three-point plan how we bring back jobs to your neighborhood.

01:49:13.000 Now, the big thing you're facing is overtaxation, which drives corporate, and they're going, huh?

01:49:18.000 Then you get Barack Obama and go, can't we do it?

01:49:21.000 Yes we can!

01:49:21.000 Everyone starts screaming, that's all he says.

01:49:24.000 Can we do it?

01:49:24.000 Yes we can!

01:49:25.000 And they vote for him.

01:49:27.000 Literally Bob the Builder.

01:49:28.000 I'll say this too.

01:49:29.000 I mean, again, hopefully I've made myself clear about this.

01:49:34.000 I'm not making a claim about whether Trump is necessarily going to be better in the general election.

01:49:39.000 What I am saying is with DeSantis' level of charisma, it's not helping his chances.

01:49:44.000 I just don't know how you could argue that him working on his delivery is a bad idea or a bad suggestion.

01:49:50.000 I mean, he really needs help there.

01:49:52.000 You can't deny that.

01:49:53.000 You really can't deny that.

01:49:54.000 It doesn't help him.

01:49:55.000 That's why I'm harping on it, man.

01:49:56.000 If I wanted to make you all feel great, I'd go, oh, I apologize, I shouldn't have said it.

01:50:00.000 No, dude, it's true.

01:50:01.000 In DeSantis' people need to know that that's something for him to work on.

01:50:05.000 I want him to be successful.

01:50:07.000 I don't think he's going to be as successful as he can be if that isn't worked out.

01:50:11.000 One thing to point out is that Florida has a a Moderately early primary.

01:50:16.000 I mean, it's like I think it's like smack in the middle.

01:50:18.000 It's in mid-march but like if DeSantis doesn't win, Florida that's gonna be like It's looking like we're coming up to Florida and he doesn't have a chance to win, Florida.

01:50:29.000 That is a huge problem that's a huge problem for Ron DeSantis to and so we'll see where the polls end up in Florida, but Alright, so... Gono says, TDS goes both ways it seems.

01:50:43.000 I don't care how electric a politician is.

01:50:46.000 I care if they deliver the results they promise, which is what we have seen repeatedly from DeSantis.

01:50:51.000 I like Trump but there is no loyalty to politicians.

01:50:54.000 Yep, and can the politician get elected? 0.69

01:50:57.000 Electability matters.

01:50:58.000 You can have the best policies in the world, or you can take Trump who's got a lot of good policies and has the demeanor and the character.

01:51:04.000 I'm not saying Trump is perfect, not by any stretch, but, dude, The Economist says Ron DeSnoozeFest.

01:51:12.000 I showed some people and they went, wow.

01:51:15.000 Like, it was just reading a piece of paper, like, not even feeling it.

01:51:19.000 It just felt so dry.

01:51:21.000 That's what I mean, it's just flat.

01:51:22.000 It's just flat.

01:51:24.000 Flat's an understatement.

01:51:25.000 It's concave.

01:51:26.000 Yeah, totally.

01:51:30.000 Yeah, but I just wanna, like, if you're a diehard DeSantis supporter, if you're a never-Trumper, you really think DeSantis has to be the guy, don't you want him to work on that?

01:51:40.000 Don't you want him to get better at his delivery so he can be more successful?

01:51:43.000 I don't understand this.

01:51:43.000 Why would you pretend that there isn't a problem?

01:51:46.000 There totally is!

01:51:47.000 Because when you fundamentally believe that Trumpism is bad, and the way that Trump captivated his audience is bad, you want the opposite.

01:51:57.000 That's actually at its heart, part of the problem for DeSantis.

01:52:01.000 I think.

01:52:05.000 Seymour Butt says, Tim, we don't want an elitist Blue Falcon who graduated from two Ivy League law schools, then went to wear the Blue Falcon title.

01:52:13.000 Blue Falcon.

01:52:14.000 Yeah.

01:52:15.000 Well, Trump also graduated from elitist Yeah.

01:52:18.000 School.

01:52:18.000 So, Penn, I mean.

01:52:21.000 Yeah, true.

01:52:21.000 It's Ivy League.

01:52:22.000 Ian says, sorry late to the party, but I didn't see where DeSantis addressed Trump, his biggest competition.

01:52:27.000 He came out too weak.

01:52:28.000 I appreciate him trying to be seemingly drama-free, but he is playing it too safe in my opinion.

01:52:34.000 Yup.

01:52:35.000 Vanilla yogurt.

01:52:38.000 Guardsman Norham says DeSantis rolled a politician with high wisdom, but used charisma as a dump stat.

01:52:44.000 Ian would appreciate that one if he was here.

01:52:46.000 I like D&D.

01:52:48.000 Robert Colling says, if you want charisma, look at Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson in North Carolina.

01:52:53.000 He knocks it out of the park.

01:52:55.000 Who's that guy?

01:52:56.000 Is he the guy who was singing with John Rich?

01:52:59.000 Who was that?

01:53:00.000 I don't know.

01:53:01.000 Was that the guy?

01:53:03.000 Not sure.

01:53:07.000 Random user says, as an eight-year viewer, you have TDS, dude.

01:53:10.000 Trump can't describe CRT and DEI.

01:53:12.000 DeSantis explained them articulately and how he'd destroy them and how he has in Florida.

01:53:17.000 You're simping for Trump too hard.

01:53:19.000 Oh, go Crimea River, dude.

01:53:21.000 Barack Obama gets elected after blowing up children because people don't care about policy.

01:53:26.000 I would love it if Ron DeSantis got in and enacted policy, which I think he does better than Trump.

01:53:31.000 But it's insane to think at the current pace, he's going to be able to do it.

01:53:36.000 It's remarkable to me that someone like me, I pay attention to this stuff, I watch Obama get in office and start blowing up children immediately and I'm like, wow, that's the opposite of what I voted for.

01:53:45.000 And people are just like, I'm gonna vote for him again.

01:53:47.000 And I was like, what about blowing up kids do you think warrants re-election?

01:53:50.000 And they're like, I don't care.

01:53:52.000 Because Barack Obama goes on TV with a charming smile and says, listen, we can do it!

01:53:56.000 And they go, can we do it?

01:53:58.000 Yes, we can!

01:53:58.000 He didn't say anything!

01:54:00.000 Can we hope and change?

01:54:01.000 Can we do it?

01:54:02.000 Yes, we can.

01:54:03.000 Donald Trump wins.

01:54:04.000 Make America great again.

01:54:06.000 Trump at least talked about building a big beautiful wall from sea to shining sea.

01:54:10.000 Trump had some policies. 0.97

01:54:11.000 None of these guys are perfect, but Donald Trump banned at the federal level contracting with corporations that had this woke garbage in their companies.

01:54:20.000 He was shutting it down in the military as well.

01:54:22.000 I think Ron DeSantis would do better policy-wise, but we're talking about the executive branch.

01:54:27.000 Ron DeSantis would not be a legislator when he's in the executive branch.

01:54:30.000 He'd be president.

01:54:31.000 So he can talk all day and night about the things he wants to do, but he's not passing laws or anything about it.

01:54:35.000 If anything, he should be running for Senate, if that's the case.

01:54:38.000 Or he should be vice president and be president of the Senate.

01:54:41.000 That's a better place for him to be.

01:54:43.000 Donald Trump is the guy who's got the brash attitude who I want to see start enforcing some laws.

01:54:47.000 Not saying he will, but dude, you can sit here and be like, this is what really bugs me about why they're, like, about the right, why they lose too much when it comes to this political stuff.

01:54:58.000 Ben Shapiro comes out and says, facts don't care about your feelings.

01:55:00.000 And they all start going, waving their arms and they're cheering for it.

01:55:03.000 And I'm like, that means nothing to the average person who believes feelings don't care about your facts.

01:55:08.000 And that's why Democrats win over the default liberal.

01:55:12.000 It should be default conservative.

01:55:14.000 When we look at the Bud Light stuff, it should be default that people are like, I'm not buying that because I don't want to be made fun of by my friends.

01:55:23.000 The Democrats use shame and fear and powerful emotions to win elections.

01:55:28.000 Republicans try convincing people.

01:55:30.000 Now that's noble.

01:55:31.000 It's honorable.

01:55:32.000 Good luck.

01:55:33.000 You put Ron DeSantis on a stage.

01:55:36.000 I'll tell you this.

01:55:37.000 You take a guy who sells medical equipment and put him next to Ron DeSantis and you will believe in your mind that Ron knows nothing about the politics and the medical supply sales guy knows everything.

01:55:49.000 Because being able to speak and being charismatic conveys more trust than not being able to.

01:55:55.000 I have to dig from a lot of people.

01:55:58.000 When they say things like, oh, you know all this stuff, and I'm like, well, make sure you think I actually know something.

01:56:03.000 Like, well, it sounds like you know it.

01:56:04.000 Yeah, I read it on the news, and it could be a lie later on.

01:56:07.000 If a guy goes on stage like Ron DeSantis and says, freedom is worth fighting for, you're like, that doesn't sound like he actually thinks that.

01:56:14.000 And then someone else comes up and goes, freedom is worth fighting for, and that's why you must join me.

01:56:20.000 People are going to be like, oh, that's definitive.

01:56:23.000 I've seen it happen at all these different rallies.

01:56:25.000 I've seen the left do it time after time.

01:56:26.000 I've seen every non-profit pull this off.

01:56:29.000 If you don't know, and if you don't sound convinced, people will not follow you.

01:56:34.000 End of story.

01:56:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:56:38.000 And I think anytime there's any criticism made of DeSantis, People are going to assume because of the rivalry that what you're saying is that you think that DeSantis is terrible and Trump is great.

01:56:50.000 That's not necessarily the case.

01:56:52.000 You could say, look, DeSantis has this flaw that he needs to work out.

01:56:55.000 It's going to make him more electable.

01:56:57.000 And I think that Super Chatter actually has the Trump Derangement Syndrome because they're so obsessed with getting in anyone else, they would take a guy who probably would lose. 0.95

01:57:09.000 There was a poll that came out, I think it was Interactive Polls posted this, dissenters losing to Biden by three points.

01:57:16.000 Now, they're going to come out and they're going to tell you, no, no, we want Trump to run.

01:57:21.000 You had on The View, they said, we want Trump to be the candidate so we can beat him.

01:57:24.000 They want DeSantis to be the candidate because he's dry, because he's boring and monotonous.

01:57:30.000 I like DeSantis.

01:57:31.000 I think he would be a great president.

01:57:32.000 I think his policies are excellent.

01:57:33.000 But in order to be a leader, you need more than just good ideas.

01:57:38.000 Ron DeSantis, the good idea guy, he's an advisor to the president.

01:57:42.000 He's a vice president.

01:57:43.000 He's a COO.

01:57:44.000 He's a chief of staff.

01:57:45.000 He is not the president.

01:57:47.000 The president is going to go out and rally the American people around these ideas.

01:57:51.000 DeSantis CAN be that guy, but I'm just so fed up, I can't believe after all this time we knew he was gonna run, they did not give him legitimate real training or direction.

01:58:01.000 Insane.

01:58:02.000 You're exactly right.

01:58:03.000 I hate when people say, you hit spot on.

01:58:07.000 Facts don't care about your feelings.

01:58:08.000 Well, yeah, but people care about your feelings.

01:58:10.000 People care about those feelings.

01:58:11.000 That's a totally different thing from winning an argument versus influencing those around you.

01:58:17.000 People won't remember what you say, but they will remember how you made them feel.

01:58:24.000 So when Donald Trump makes you laugh, you know what's going to happen?

01:58:26.000 You associate that Trump rally with having fun.

01:58:29.000 A good time.

01:58:30.000 When someone goes on stage and just talks and you're falling asleep, you don't even remember it.

01:58:35.000 What did you have for breakfast yesterday?

01:58:37.000 They don't care about how much you know until they know about how much you care.

01:58:40.000 If you had breakfast with Donald Trump, you would never forget every moment of that breakfast.

01:58:45.000 Oh, I had two eggs scrambled, the bacon, the hash browns, and we got these delicious sweet potato biscuits and I put a ton of butter on them.

01:58:51.000 I'll never forget that morning.

01:58:53.000 You will remember.

01:58:54.000 But I ask you, what did you have for breakfast?

01:58:56.000 And most people are going to be like, what did I have for breakfast?

01:58:58.000 I can't remember.

01:58:58.000 Because you don't care!

01:59:00.000 Your brain's like, I'm not going to store this. 1.00

01:59:03.000 It's garbage information. 1.00

01:59:04.000 Yeah, I'll say this. 0.99

01:59:05.000 I really like Trump.

01:59:06.000 I would love to see Trump elected in 2024.

01:59:09.000 Like I said, I won't make any predictions or claims about who's ultimately going to be electable between the two.

01:59:15.000 But you can really like both of these guys.

01:59:17.000 I understand that when it comes to the primary season, you're going to have to make a choice.

01:59:21.000 100%.

01:59:22.000 I will say for as much as I do love Trump, I think that if DeSantis is successful at whatever he does, that's good for America.

01:59:29.000 If DeSantis is a good governor of Florida, that's going to be good for America.

01:59:32.000 If he does end up becoming president, I think that's going to be good for America.

01:59:36.000 If he ends up being vice president to Donald Trump, that's also going to be good for America.

01:59:40.000 But I do think DeSantis is going to be more successful if he works on fixing this charisma problem.

01:59:45.000 Yeah.

01:59:46.000 And people have been saying it for a long time.

01:59:48.000 When we had Milo on the show and he said it was like when you reach for something and you accidentally touch something moist like a wet sponge.

01:59:56.000 Like, I wouldn't go that far.

01:59:57.000 That's the thing.

01:59:58.000 I wouldn't take it as far as Milo does.

01:59:59.000 When you have people saying, hey, there's a charisma problem here, and then the campaign doesn't take it seriously.

02:00:07.000 That video that Ron put out on his Twitter should never have seen the light of day.

02:00:12.000 I would not sell my coffee with something so tepid.

02:00:16.000 For a presidential announcement, you need something big.

02:00:20.000 And you need strength, conviction, make me believe it.

02:00:24.000 You know what I'm gonna do?

02:00:26.000 We're gonna make a commercial, and I'm gonna make you believe that buying Casper Coffee will literally save the world.

02:00:30.000 I will put all of the conviction that I have in it, and I'll make an impassioned plea.

02:00:36.000 You know what I'll do?

02:00:37.000 Here's what I'm gonna do.

02:00:38.000 I'm gonna take Ron DeSantis' presidential announcement speech, I'm going to deliver it, but instead of saying I'm running for president, I'm going to say, and that's why I'm selling you coffee.

02:00:46.000 So join the fight today and go to castbrew.com and buy Rise with Roberto Jr.

02:00:52.000 because if you don't, this country will fall.

02:00:58.000 Or something like that.

02:00:59.000 And then it'll just be like, people will be like, bro, it's just coffee, calm down.

02:01:03.000 Can you imagine that all these things going wrong in your first day of opening a coffee shop though?

02:01:08.000 You want to have this product, like you said, perfected so that when it's coming out, everybody in their first day in your coffee shop is going to be like, wow, this is incredible.

02:01:17.000 I'm coming back.

02:01:18.000 I don't know if that goal was achieved today.

02:01:21.000 You know, I'm going to make a video.

02:01:23.000 Is what I'm gonna do.

02:01:24.000 And then Seamus can animate it.

02:01:26.000 What?

02:01:26.000 It'll be me doing Ron DeSantis' speech, but saying, you have to buy chickens.

02:01:30.000 Buy chickens!

02:01:31.000 Well, I'll say this.

02:01:32.000 This is sort of an infamous story in political history, but I'm sure you're all familiar with the Kennedy-Nixon debates in 1960, and everyone who heard it on the radio thought that Nixon crushed, and everyone who saw it on television thought that Kennedy won.

02:01:47.000 Right?

02:01:47.000 That's the whole point of all of this.

02:01:49.000 Public image and how it's presented to people matters a lot.

02:01:52.000 So you could say his policies are the best in the world, but if they're not presented in a way which is packaged in a way such that the average American person is going to be receptive to it, it doesn't matter.

02:02:06.000 It doesn't matter.

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02:02:25.000 Tyler, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:28.000 We've got, like I said, Turning Point Action has this big conference coming up in July.

02:02:32.000 So July 15th and 16th, we're putting on this huge thing.

02:02:36.000 We just announced today that Donald Trump will be there.

02:02:39.000 Vivek will be there.

02:02:40.000 We have a huge host of number of people that are going to be there.

02:02:43.000 You can go to tpaction.com slash atcon.

02:02:47.000 Just go tpaction.com and check it out.

02:02:49.000 And it's going to be huge.

02:02:50.000 I think the biggest event of the summer.

02:02:52.000 Cool.

02:02:52.000 Right on.

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02:02:56.000 We're going to be uploading three videos next week if you guys want to go check those out.

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02:03:16.000 Y'all go check that out.

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02:03:30.000 That was a good show.

02:03:31.000 I'm excited for the after.

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