Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - DeSantis Informally Announces 2024 Presidential Run On Twitter Video w-Warren Davidson

00:00:00.000 Well, it's unofficially official.

00:00:22.000 Personally, I think the DeSantis team should have waited until tomorrow, because the news came out that they're going to be doing a special interview with Elon Musk on Twitter, where Ron DeSantis will announce he is running for the presidency.

00:00:33.000 Now, okay, that's fine, we got the news, the information leaks, Elon Musk confirms he's having a very special interview tomorrow with a big announcement.

00:00:41.000 But then the DeSantis team put out a video which basically is them saying they're launching the campaign, saying text launch to this number.

00:00:48.000 And I think that kind of spiked their own news story, but okay, fine, whatever.

00:00:52.000 It's not legal, but it's official, I suppose.

00:00:56.000 Tomorrow will be the official legal announcement where then they are subject to all these laws.

00:01:00.000 But as of today, we know for a fact DeSantis, Casey DeSantis has put out a video basically saying Ron DeSantis is running for president.

00:01:07.000 So here we go.

00:01:09.000 Now I want to talk about something else.

00:01:10.000 Target held an emergency meeting and they're going to be moving all of their LGBTQ materials and sales products to the back of the store in a bunch of locations because they're panicking over a potential quote bud light situation as parents are concerned because Target is selling Let's just, like, chest binder materials for children and tucking bathing suits for kids and things like that.

00:01:32.000 And so, uh, not too happy about that.

00:01:35.000 So we got that.

00:01:35.000 We got a lot of stuff to talk about.

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00:03:07.000 to talk about this and a whole lot more is representative Warren Davidson.

00:03:10.000 Hey, it's an honor to join you all.

00:03:12.000 Love it.

00:03:13.000 You want to pull that mic up a little bit?

00:03:14.000 Yeah, sure.

00:03:15.000 So who are you?

00:03:16.000 We know that you're in Congress.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, so Congressman Warren Davidson.

00:03:19.000 I'm from Southwest Ohio.

00:03:20.000 The district goes the west side of Cincinnati from the Ohio River, about a third of the way up the state.

00:03:25.000 So I don't have either Cincinnati or Dayton in the district, but kind of that part of our state.

00:03:30.000 I came into Congress after John Boehner resigned and won a special election.

00:03:34.000 At that time, I was a manufacturing guy.

00:03:36.000 I had a group of small manufacturing companies.

00:03:40.000 And then prior to that, I was in In the Army, so I enlisted in the Army out of high school, got sent over to Germany when the Cold War was going on, was over there when the wall came down.

00:03:50.000 Got to go to West Point from there, served in Ranger Regiment as an officer, so Army Ranger, business guy basically when I first ran, and in Congress I'm on financial services and foreign affairs.

00:03:50.000 Right on.

00:04:01.000 And you're a big crypto guy, so that's good, probably the most knowledgeable member of Congress I'd imagine?

00:04:06.000 Certainly one of them.

00:04:07.000 We've been working hard to get, I mean, I've been trying to get a bill passed since 2017.

00:04:12.000 Seems like it would have really helped a lot.

00:04:13.000 A lot of things could have been averted, but, you know, maybe this year will be the year.

00:04:18.000 Right on.

00:04:19.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

00:04:20.000 We got Seamus Coghlan joining us.

00:04:21.000 My name is Seamus Coghlan.

00:04:22.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes where we make animated cartoons and I just released one today about our friend Tim Pool over here.

00:04:29.000 I think you guys will like it if you go over there and watch that.

00:04:32.000 It's a very enjoyable cartoon to make.

00:04:35.000 I think it's an enjoyable one to watch.

00:04:37.000 Tim seemed to enjoy it.

00:04:38.000 He tweeted it out.

00:04:39.000 I also have a podcast called Shamer.

00:04:41.000 I stream on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 6 p.m.

00:04:43.000 That's over on Rumble.

00:04:43.000 Eastern.

00:04:45.000 We just streamed today.

00:04:46.000 I thought I had a great conversation with Will Noland.

00:04:49.000 Hey, buddy, Ian Crossland.

00:04:50.000 Good to see you, Seamus.

00:04:51.000 Great to see you, man.

00:04:52.000 And you, Warren.

00:04:52.000 Good to be back.

00:04:52.000 Good to meet you, man.

00:04:53.000 I'm invigorated by all this talk about crypto.

00:04:53.000 Likewise.

00:04:55.000 Maybe we can talk about that tonight, because I know we've got a lot of nutty stuff going on.

00:04:59.000 And if you guys want to follow me, Ian Crossland, everywhere on social media, I'd be happy to get in touch with you there.

00:05:04.000 We also have Mr. Duprea on my right.

00:05:05.000 Yes, Mr. Dotcom, I'm enjoying this coffee.

00:05:08.000 Thank you for the brew.

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00:05:15.000 Ready for the show whenever you are.

00:05:17.000 Let's jump into this first story from TimCast.com.

00:05:19.000 Casey DeSantis teases Governor DeSantis presidential campaign.

00:05:23.000 Big if true.

00:05:25.000 Here's the video.

00:05:25.000 They say they call it faith because in the face of darkness you can see the brighter future.

00:05:30.000 Let's just play the video so y'all can see it for yourselves.

00:05:33.000 You ready for this?

00:05:34.000 Here we go.

00:05:34.000 Is the audio right?

00:05:35.000 Make sure we got the audio right.

00:05:39.000 They call it faith because in the face of darkness you can see that brighter future.

00:05:44.000 A faith that our best days lay ahead of us.

00:05:48.000 But is it worth the fight?

00:05:51.000 Do I have the courage?

00:05:53.000 Is it worth the sacrifice?

00:05:56.000 America has been worth it every single time.

00:06:03.000 Text launch to 5-1-2-3-4-5.

00:06:06.000 5-1-2-3-4-5.

00:06:08.000 And that's the video.

00:06:11.000 And I feel like this is taking a bit of the wind out of their sails.

00:06:14.000 Casey DeSantis also tweeted out, big if true, in reference to this story from Fox News, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to announce candidacy for president Wednesday on Twitter sources.

00:06:24.000 So we all knew it was coming.

00:06:26.000 And tomorrow, Ron DeSantis is supposed, or for those that are listening to us later, later today, Ron DeSantis is going to be doing an interview with Elon Musk on Twitter and he's going to announce he is running for the presidency.

00:06:40.000 So we know he is now.

00:06:42.000 I think putting out this story and putting out that tweet pulled a lot of the wind out of their sails.

00:06:47.000 I can understand leaking a little bit like expectation may happen, tune in, don't miss the show.

00:06:53.000 But tweeting out that video basically just announced it and I feel like that's gonna Elon Musk is going to have the interview, and then what's going to end up happening is there's going to be a good amount of people, maybe 20-30% of people who have normally watched the Twitter space are going to be like, oh, I know already.

00:07:06.000 They put that video out, it's a text launch, we get it, we get it.

00:07:09.000 So, I don't know, what do you guys think?

00:07:11.000 A lot of people are ragging on him already.

00:07:13.000 A lot of the Trump people genuinely are upset about this.

00:07:17.000 I'm going to say it outright, I think the people who are upset at Ron DeSantis are scared of him.

00:07:23.000 I do think that this is kind of an example that he needs a better marketing team.

00:07:26.000 No offense, guys, if you're listening right now, but... I agree.

00:07:29.000 ...you just stomped on your own fire.

00:07:31.000 You should have let Elon make the noise for you so that everyone went back and watched that Elon interview over and over again.

00:07:36.000 And this is, like, coming off the heels.

00:07:38.000 A couple weeks ago, I think you, Tim, on Twitter, you had some issues with his marketing team also.

00:07:42.000 Where was that?

00:07:43.000 Yeah, they got megs.

00:07:44.000 I tweeted about Jazz Jennings, and I was like, why are they so mad?

00:07:46.000 Yeah, and it was just...

00:07:48.000 No, I think people will still go back to the Elon Musk interview.

00:07:51.000 It's still going to be a big deal.

00:07:52.000 I just think this pulled a little bit of the wind out of the sails.

00:07:54.000 And us talking about it's pulling more wind out of it.

00:07:57.000 So I'll tell you right now.

00:07:59.000 The original title of this was going to be Target Emergency Meeting.

00:08:04.000 They're pulling back this big boycott.

00:08:05.000 Bud Light, we're winning.

00:08:07.000 And then I'm looking at the news and it's like, They basically announced.

00:08:11.000 Okay, well there it is.

00:08:12.000 That's the story.

00:08:12.000 The announcement video was shot from underneath him to make him look large.

00:08:16.000 Obviously, that's a bit manipulative.

00:08:17.000 They should have used some slow motion with a few cuts to give some action because it was a very slow, boring video.

00:08:23.000 That's just more of an artistic critique.

00:08:25.000 Look, I think this is the biggest non-surprise ever.

00:08:28.000 I do think a lot of people are going to watch Elon Musk's announcement tomorrow night.

00:08:32.000 And look, the race is ultimately going to be Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis.

00:08:38.000 I think it can be healthy.

00:08:39.000 We just got to stay focused on beating Democrats.

00:08:41.000 You know, a lot of folks back home, pretty confident Donald Trump's going to win the primary.

00:08:46.000 And they want to see the competition, you know, at some level.

00:08:51.000 But they also want everybody to stay focused on beating Democrats instead of beating each other up.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, the other aspect of it is I'm very glad Ron's running.

00:08:58.000 So as critical as I'm going to be about the way that they're announcing it, I like more competition.

00:09:03.000 I think we need that.

00:09:04.000 We need more Democrats, RFK and Biden.

00:09:07.000 We need to see those guys debating.

00:09:08.000 We need to see Trump and DeSantis debating.

00:09:09.000 I'm very happy about it.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I love what DeSantis is doing in Florida.

00:09:15.000 Part of what concerns me is just how damaging it can be to any politician's reputation to go up against Trump.

00:09:22.000 And how good he is at just ripping these people to shreds.

00:09:25.000 It's one of his- Tiny Ron.

00:09:26.000 Very strong talents, yeah.

00:09:28.000 And you just wonder, if Ron gets in the ring with Trump, is this going to have lasting damage to his political brand?

00:09:36.000 Yeah, I think that's the fear for anybody.

00:09:37.000 I mean, particularly, you know, getting across ways with Donald Trump, hard to avoid because those are the tactics Donald Trump uses.

00:09:44.000 He goes after the person.

00:09:45.000 He doesn't really go after the argument.

00:09:47.000 And it's worked pretty well for him.

00:09:49.000 I guess the hope for a lot of people is that he can kind of work his message in a different way.

00:09:54.000 Because that's, I think, the key to appealing to like suburban women, convincing people that he really is going to be able to flip states like Arizona and Wisconsin again and get the win.

00:10:04.000 And, you know, people are saying, oh, well, that's the that's the appeal of the Santas.

00:10:08.000 We think Trump maybe can't win.

00:10:10.000 Well, the competition will prove it and potentially solidify Trump.

00:10:13.000 And if it doesn't, hey, who knows where we go?

00:10:16.000 What are your feelings like personally between these guys and just the Republican Party in general, like for president?

00:10:23.000 I mean, I haven't endorsed anybody in the race so far.

00:10:26.000 Personally, I love both of them.

00:10:28.000 You know, when I first came to Congress, I mean, when you come in in a special election, I came in in June, so it wasn't like everyone else was coming in.

00:10:34.000 I'm like the new kid.

00:10:36.000 And when you come in, you have to make a speech.

00:10:39.000 And like, literally, you go down and you address, from the floor of the House, all of your new colleagues.

00:10:45.000 And okay, it's only on C-SPAN, but it's kind of a big deal.

00:10:48.000 And so a big crowd comes in after, you know, take the oath of office and flow through.

00:10:53.000 I make it to the back of where the Freedom Caucus and some of the people that I had gotten to know already were.

00:10:59.000 And this guy comes up to me and goes, you know, Hey, I'm Ron DeSantis.

00:11:02.000 You're from Troy, Ohio, right?

00:11:03.000 And I go...

00:11:04.000 Yeah, and I thought it was neat that he knew where I was from.

00:11:07.000 He goes, my wife Casey's from Troy, Ohio.

00:11:09.000 So she literally graduated from the same high school as my daughter graduated from.

00:11:13.000 Kind of small world stuff.

00:11:15.000 Interesting.

00:11:16.000 Her dad was the optometrist in the town square.

00:11:19.000 So I like the DeSantis people.

00:11:21.000 I hope that everything stays friendly.

00:11:24.000 I would be happy if Rhonda DeSantis was president. 0.96

00:11:26.000 I certainly was happy when Donald Trump was president, and I'm confident he would do a great job again.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, I'd be happy if Ron DeSantis was president.

00:11:33.000 I'd prefer Donald Trump. 0.91

00:11:35.000 I think Trump's gonna go and get revenge, fire a lot of people.

00:11:37.000 I think Ron DeSantis goes in and shakes a lot of hands.

00:11:39.000 I think policy-wise, Ron is doing a lot of things that help America in a lot of ways, but I wonder if that's...

00:11:47.000 what we need right now.

00:11:49.000 Well, look, one of the things he did as a governor is, I mean, he inspired governors to be better than they would have been otherwise in a lot of states.

00:11:55.000 Exactly.

00:11:56.000 I mean, he helped Ron DeSantis.

00:11:58.000 Look, yeah, well, Donald Trump inspired a lot of governors to do that, and Ron DeSantis, look, would not have... Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:12:03.000 I had it backwards.

00:12:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:05.000 Ron DeSantis would not have won, and I think he'll be clear on that.

00:12:07.000 He would not have won without the support of Donald Trump.

00:12:11.000 But as governor, he did his own thing and did it really well.

00:12:14.000 I think it's inspiring.

00:12:15.000 He's a pretty young guy.

00:12:16.000 He's younger than me.

00:12:17.000 I think at some point he's got the potential to be president.

00:12:19.000 But just like you said, Seamus, hopefully if he doesn't get derailed, right?

00:12:23.000 Yeah, well, and you mentioned that he couldn't have won without Trump's endorsement.

00:12:26.000 That's certainly true.

00:12:27.000 The first time he won, he just barely squeaked past.

00:12:29.000 But we have to acknowledge that his next victory after that was an absolute landslide.

00:12:33.000 I mean, he turned Florida from Vaguely purple to dark red.

00:12:37.000 He crushed it there.

00:12:38.000 I think he's done a lot of good.

00:12:40.000 I definitely hear everyone's concerns.

00:12:42.000 I mean, if this was a question between DeSantis being president and Trump being president, I'm a happy man, right?

00:12:47.000 But then there's the question of who's most likely to defeat the Democrats in a national election.

00:12:54.000 That's tough.

00:12:55.000 I see a lot of people saying that.

00:12:57.000 Look, I've seen the polls.

00:12:58.000 The polls are very favorable for Donald Trump.

00:13:01.000 But I've also talked to people out just in the streets, in the cities, and the general conversation is they groan when it comes to Donald Trump.

00:13:09.000 The moderates and the independents, I mean to say.

00:13:11.000 And the sentiment seems to be like DeSantis is a normal guy.

00:13:14.000 This is why I think Elon Musk is doing this interview with him, because Elon Musk said something like, I just want a normal person to be president or something like that.

00:13:21.000 So I think Elon does want Ron DeSantis to win.

00:13:23.000 Hmm.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, whatever that means.

00:13:25.000 Interesting.

00:13:25.000 But what I was saying before when I said, I don't know if we need that right now in reference to good policy.

00:13:29.000 Of course, we always need good policy.

00:13:31.000 But I think what we desperately need right now is a purging of the corruption.

00:13:39.000 Well, exactly.

00:13:40.000 And this is something that it's important to really pay attention to, which is throughout the entire Trump presidency, His rhetoric and his tactics and the way he interacted with the elite was much more criticized by media than were his policies.

00:13:53.000 Just as you mentioned where Trump will go after people and not necessarily policies and though I'm sure you'd agree with me he does go after policy often as well.

00:14:00.000 The media was almost always attacking Trump as an individual.

00:14:03.000 Sometimes they'd go after his appointments, that was pretty popular.

00:14:06.000 Sometimes they'd go after a policy, or they'd say we're upset that he pulled out of the Paris Accord.

00:14:10.000 But often it was, the rhetoric in this speech was damaging, or the way he speaks about people in the media makes them feel unsafe, or whatever they were bloviating about.

00:14:20.000 And so, that's part of why I think those are the things we should love about Trump, because those are the things that terrify our enemies. 0.99

00:14:26.000 He called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig. 1.00

00:14:28.000 Which is like not a good thing to say, right? 0.99

00:14:29.000 It's terrible!

00:14:31.000 But I think overall, and I'm not saying that there are not valid critiques to make of Donald Trump's rhetoric, but what I am saying is there were times where he was so unbelievably on the money in a way that I have never seen another politician be capable of, right?

00:14:46.000 When he said, I'm the president for Pittsburgh and not Paris.

00:14:49.000 I mean, nailed it!

00:14:51.000 Nailed it!

00:14:52.000 You look at the drain the swamp rhetoric, you know, to what you're saying, Tim.

00:14:56.000 Look, that was a phrase that, look, it sums up.

00:15:00.000 If that meant a lot in 2016, if it meant something in 2022, post Durham report, when you look at this, drain the swamp is going to be the theme.

00:15:09.000 You look at Elon Musk.

00:15:10.000 I mean, he bought a crime scene.

00:15:12.000 The question is, what are we going to do about it?

00:15:14.000 Mm-hmm.

00:15:15.000 That's a very good way of putting it.

00:15:16.000 He bought a crime scene.

00:15:17.000 He did.

00:15:17.000 All the evidence is there that they were suppressing information, that they were... I mean, if a foreign government had done what Twitter did, we'd be calling it an act of war.

00:15:26.000 100% and kudos to Thomas Massey who coined the they bought a crime scene phrase.

00:15:30.000 Okay, good for him.

00:15:31.000 The problem with draining a swamp is that I think that the swamp is clogged.

00:15:36.000 I don't think it can be drained without some serious plumbing.

00:15:39.000 That's why I'm saying drain.

00:15:40.000 But he tried last time and he just basically stood there and looked at it.

00:15:44.000 There's a difference between a first and a second term and I think Trump underestimated the swamp and I think he comes into a second term and he just says, I've got the snake!

00:15:53.000 There's nothing holding him back anymore.

00:15:55.000 I think that Schedule F story was real.

00:15:57.000 Yeah, I think Ron DeSantis gets in and says, look guys, let's shake hands and figure something out together.

00:16:03.000 And then it's just- But Schedule F, you think realistically that- because my fear and thought is that if any president went in and they're like, all right, Schedule F, I'm firing all the heads of all the agencies, the alphabets, all these administrators, you're fired, the CIA would just have them killed like that.

00:16:17.000 And then no one would get fired.

00:16:19.000 You mean like JFK?

00:16:19.000 That's my thought.

00:16:21.000 I don't think so.

00:16:23.000 I think they did that back in the day.

00:16:25.000 But I think when you look at Julian Assange, you can see their tactics have changed.

00:16:29.000 So when you look at Trump's first presidency, what do they do?

00:16:31.000 They accuse him of being a Soviet spy. 0.97

00:16:34.000 Now they're trying to accuse him of rape.

00:16:36.000 And so you're seeing Democrats now using the E. Gene Carroll story as definitive confirmation, even though there's no evidence of anything.

00:16:44.000 It's insane.

00:16:46.000 So character assassination is the tactic, and then they're trying to make it illegal for him to run?

00:16:50.000 I mean, that's... I haven't been following the story the last couple weeks, but what's been going on in that venue?

00:16:56.000 Have you, like, since they were trying to make... Well, they're going after him in New York for criminal charges, which we know about.

00:17:03.000 He's apparently going to be facing new criminal charges in March of next year.

00:17:07.000 They're already talking about that.

00:17:08.000 Federal level, you've got the classified documents.

00:17:10.000 Georgia, you've got election interference. 0.97

00:17:12.000 They're just going to throw whatever they can at him.

00:17:14.000 They're going to use every procedural manipulation to try and stop him.

00:17:18.000 I'm not sure they're going to be able to pull it off.

00:17:21.000 That's it.

00:17:22.000 And then if something bad happens to Trump, I think this country just implodes.

00:17:27.000 If you look at the hardcore Trump supporter, you know, indicting Trump or convicting Trump isn't really going to change their support.

00:17:33.000 But if you look at the people that are already kind of on the fence, you know, there's almost no one that doesn't have an opinion at all on Trump.

00:17:39.000 I mean, he's got 100% name ID and 99.9% people have a pretty fixed opinion of him.

00:17:45.000 So how does he move those people?

00:17:47.000 And I think they just keep building negative, building negative, building negative.

00:17:50.000 And that is the tactic, like you were saying, and it's been working, you know.

00:17:55.000 And so the question is, but you look in Ohio, you know, Donald Trump, his message was built for Ohio.

00:18:00.000 Everything about it.

00:18:01.000 I mean, I got to be on Air Force One ahead of the election with him and showing stuff.

00:18:05.000 People did like a three hour long tractor parade.

00:18:08.000 And he was just blown away.

00:18:09.000 It's like, who would think these people like a billionaire from New York?

00:18:12.000 I'm like, they don't just like you, they love you.

00:18:14.000 Like, no one made this happen.

00:18:15.000 It wasn't a campaign event.

00:18:17.000 It was just organic.

00:18:18.000 And that kind of support is still there amongst the base.

00:18:21.000 But the question is, when you go into places like, you know, the suburbs, you know, places like Pennsylvania, places like Wisconsin, can you flip Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan again?

00:18:31.000 Can you still hold Arizona?

00:18:33.000 I mean, that's going to be the decider in this election.

00:18:36.000 Man, I feel like... Oh, hey.

00:18:39.000 Hi.

00:18:39.000 Good to see you.

00:18:43.000 I'm so concerned with votes being tallied on machines in private with proprietary software code.

00:18:49.000 But did you hear Arizona's banning electronic voting machines?

00:18:51.000 Oh, beast.

00:18:52.000 No, that's the first I've heard of that.

00:18:56.000 Yeah, they said unless they're manufactured here in the U.S.

00:18:58.000 and the source code is public.

00:18:59.000 It's gotta be.

00:19:00.000 Wow, free the code!

00:19:01.000 Yeah, dude.

00:19:02.000 I gave you a shout out earlier when I was reading the news and they said, They can use them as long as the source code is public and it's made in the United States.

00:19:08.000 I was like, public source?

00:19:10.000 Public code?

00:19:11.000 Well, there it is.

00:19:11.000 Now we should actively create one of those and use it in Arizona instead of just revert, yeah.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, and Dominion said that they were going to be going out of business because of reputational damage.

00:19:21.000 And I'm like, if you have the option, Dominion, of either going out of business or building your voting machines here in the United States with open source code, why would you not choose the latter?

00:19:33.000 Why would you just be like, oh, I guess we go out of business.

00:19:35.000 Especially if you just got a 700 million dollar plus up.

00:19:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:39.000 So they didn't say, I guess it was an interview, and the guy didn't say explicitly, that's it, we're done for, he said, based on the damage we think we're headed towards the drain, that reputational damage is too much.

00:19:50.000 They're afraid of the name recognition, they need to change their name.

00:19:53.000 Just like Blackwater did, and Monsanto got bought by Bayer because they didn't like the name.

00:19:58.000 Is that coming for Bud Light?

00:20:00.000 Oh, probably, probably.

00:20:01.000 I think every state should do what Arizona did, and say, look, we don't care about... You want out of this one?

00:20:08.000 I tell you, it's really simple.

00:20:09.000 The left is complaining about the right because, you know, Carrie Lake is filing these lawsuits, and they say, you won't get over 2020.

00:20:14.000 I'm like, alright, alright, everybody slow down.

00:20:17.000 Here's an idea.

00:20:18.000 No more foreign-built voting machines.

00:20:21.000 It doesn't even, like, I don't understand the argument against it.

00:20:25.000 It's like, what, we got to spend money to get upgraded voting machines for election security?

00:20:29.000 Everybody should be in favor of that.

00:20:30.000 We make them here in America.

00:20:31.000 That's American jobs, good working class jobs.

00:20:33.000 We do open source codes that the people have a right to see the code.

00:20:36.000 Why would any Democrat disagree with that?

00:20:37.000 It's a requirement for all of our defense contracting.

00:20:40.000 So why wouldn't it be for our voting system?

00:20:42.000 Have you looked much into the blockchain for voting security?

00:20:46.000 You know, blockchain really offers a lot of... Look, it's immutable, it's distributed ledger, it's a more secure way.

00:20:51.000 I mean, frankly, the most secure computing system is truly available with a proof-of-work kind of architecture.

00:20:59.000 But a lot of people don't understand it, for one.

00:21:02.000 And two, it really isn't scalable yet.

00:21:05.000 But I think you're going to start seeing blockchain voting for shares.

00:21:10.000 So I think when you can do votes for things like shares that way, you will eventually see blockchain as an immutable record of what happened.

00:21:19.000 It's fully auditable.

00:21:19.000 And you can audit it.

00:21:21.000 Everyone could download a node.

00:21:22.000 If you want to track the election in your state, download the node.

00:21:25.000 You see everything.

00:21:26.000 All the code is there.

00:21:27.000 It would be a great way to run an election.

00:21:29.000 I want to just do a hard segue into the cultural stories, because this Target news was really big, and I'm really excited.

00:21:36.000 This is a white pill moment for everybody.

00:21:38.000 This is hope and optimism.

00:21:39.000 Target makes emergency calls after backlash to, quote, tuck-friendly bathing suits and other Pride products.

00:21:46.000 The company is terrified of a Bud Light situation, a Target insider told Fox News.

00:21:51.000 The company's LGBTQ-themed items were released this month and include tuck-friendly bathing suits, chest binders, and packing underwear along with gender-fluid mugs and other things.

00:22:02.000 And I'm pretty sure this was, like, for children, is what the big issue was.

00:22:06.000 Consumers called for a boycott of Target over the products taking issue with the swimwear.

00:22:10.000 As well as pride-themed children's clothing, including onesies, t-shirts, socks, and swim skirts, with a tag rating thoughtfully fit on multiple body types and gender expressions.

00:22:21.000 Target also sells a collection of children's books focused on LGBTQ issues.

00:22:25.000 Target is evil.

00:22:27.000 If a company targets kids, that company shouldn't exist.

00:22:29.000 Bud Light them, tweeted conservative media personality Liz Wheeler.

00:22:33.000 Matt Walsh, of course, was saying this is worse than anything Bud Light has done.

00:22:37.000 Of course.

00:22:38.000 And so the reporting apparently is that, uh, we have this from the Post Millennial.

00:22:42.000 Target to move Pride merch to the back of stores to avoid Bud Light situation. 0.99

00:22:48.000 Quote, we were given 36 hours to take all of our Pride stuff, the entire section, and move it into a section that's a third of the size.

00:22:57.000 That's amazing.

00:22:58.000 Bud Light is seeing another major drop in sales.

00:23:01.000 They're nearly 30% down year over year.

00:23:04.000 You love to see it.

00:23:05.000 It's getting worse and worse for them.

00:23:07.000 Conservatives simply said, we have no brand loyalty to Bud Light.

00:23:11.000 This is the scariest thing in the world for the biggest brands.

00:23:15.000 There's no brand loyalty to Target.

00:23:17.000 Nobody's walking around wearing Target shirts being like, yeah, go Target!

00:23:20.000 Bud Light at least had some brand recognition with sports, and that didn't do anything for him.

00:23:26.000 So when it comes to your choice between Target and Walmart, if people are gonna be like, Target's bad, we won't go there, it's not a big deal to shop somewhere else.

00:23:34.000 I really hope that conservatives stick to this because a few years ago we saw a similar attempt to boycott Target when they were saying we're going to allow men to use the women's room and abdicate our responsibility to protect female patrons. 0.69

00:23:48.000 In our stores, and conservatives said, I'm never shopping at Target again, and then many of them started shopping at Target again.

00:23:54.000 So, I hope that this is truly a bridge too far, in that people are going to stick to it this time.

00:24:00.000 I would also say that if this isn't stuck to, it's going to set a very bad precedent, right?

00:24:04.000 Because people are seeing this as the sort of sequel to the Bud Light boycott.

00:24:09.000 And if it falls apart here, that's going to say a lot about the power of conservatives as protesters or as boycotters of products.

00:24:17.000 Honestly, I don't think you really need to identify as conservative to have issues with child sex changes.

00:24:23.000 Agreed.

00:24:24.000 I'm not that conservative, really, in life, but little kids that are getting their parents are, like, cutting their body parts off and stuff.

00:24:32.000 Like, that just, as a human, I kind of wonder what in the hell is going on.

00:24:37.000 Tim's cracking a beer.

00:24:38.000 What was that, Ian?

00:24:38.000 I didn't, I couldn't hear what you were saying as I was pulling out this wonderful Stud Light Lager, if anybody would like a can.

00:24:45.000 Stud Light, give me a taste. 0.77

00:24:47.000 Stud Light, feel free to grab a can.

00:24:49.000 This is, uh, no joke, I don't know if you can see it.

00:24:51.000 That's hilarious.

00:24:52.000 Stud Light, Stud Light, and there's a cowboy on it, with a horse.

00:24:58.000 And it's from Harvest Gap Brewery in Hillsborough, Virginia.

00:25:01.000 That's hilarious.

00:25:02.000 So we were just driving past this brewery, and we walked in, and I noticed they had something called Stud Light.

00:25:10.000 That's hilarious.

00:25:11.000 Oh, that's really good.

00:25:12.000 I'm not a big beer drinker, but I had no choice but to buy a beer called Stud Light with a manly cowboy on it, because I have to wonder... I'm not saying the brewery did anything to... You want to just grab one?

00:25:26.000 Here, here, here you go.

00:25:28.000 Plus we got a bunch down there.

00:25:28.000 I'm not saying that, I don't know if this brewery made this intentionally because of what was happening, but to see that they've got stud light and there's a cowboy on it, I was like, I kind of feel like, you know, they're having fun.

00:25:44.000 Super funny.

00:25:44.000 And it's a light lager and it's pretty good.

00:25:47.000 But anyway, I just thought it'd be funny if we just cracked some open.

00:25:49.000 If you look at Bud Light's market though, I mean, you know, What Ian was talking about, just to be offended by targeting kids for this, is a whole different cross-section than just conservatives.

00:26:02.000 But if you look at who shops at Target, it's not as much like who buys your stuff at Target.

00:26:08.000 I mean, a little bit of everybody.

00:26:10.000 But who drinks Bud Light?

00:26:12.000 I mean... Yeah.

00:26:14.000 The people that used to drink Bud Light aren't going to go along with this whole trans movement, kind of Dylan Mulvaney kind of thing. 0.97

00:26:21.000 And they're also not going to buy it was an April Fool's joke.

00:26:24.000 And so Bud Light made a bad situation worse by not owning it.

00:26:29.000 And now, okay, their ESG score took a tally.

00:26:32.000 Instead of owning that, they're still trying to, oh, but see, but we can do everything.

00:26:37.000 And it's like, no, man, this is a T-intersection.

00:26:39.000 You're going to have to pick.

00:26:40.000 You can either keep the people that used to drink Bud Light, or you can go woke.

00:26:43.000 I think the thing with Bud Light and Target is that Target has it is smart of them to panic in the way they're

00:26:51.000 panicking.

00:26:52.000 Yeah. And they should probably just remove these products because 0.98

00:26:55.000 the left will try and lie.

00:26:57.000 But look, I don't care what an adult wants to do.

00:27:02.000 You know, you know, Seamus and I will have a disagreement on this.

00:27:04.000 Like, I don't care about someone who's LGBTQ or whatever. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Privacy of your own home. These are all the old traditional arguments from liberals.

00:27:12.000 You live your life, you be happy, we mind our own business.

00:27:15.000 Keep the kids out of it.

00:27:17.000 They're now trying to argue that the LGBTQ stuff is not inherently sexual. 1.00

00:27:22.000 Yep.

00:27:22.000 It's quite literally what it is.

00:27:24.000 LGBT quite literally are references to sexual identities and sexualities.

00:27:32.000 There's no reason for you to bring that to children.

00:27:36.000 This is what Target is doing.

00:27:37.000 They should not be doing that.

00:27:39.000 Here's what I think.

00:27:40.000 Bud Light loses about 25% of its market with this whole stunt.

00:27:46.000 And they're not gonna get it back.

00:27:47.000 They may still see growth because new people enter the market and population is, well, if the population expands, if it doesn't, then they're gonna lose more drinkers.

00:27:57.000 But I don't think it'll go to zero.

00:27:59.000 They've seen about a 30% drop off so far, it's like 28% or something like that.

00:28:03.000 These are the people who pay attention, who don't want to drink Bud Light, don't want to be seen drinking Bud Light.

00:28:08.000 It's a lot of people who don't care.

00:28:09.000 They don't watch the news, they're not on Twitter, they're not on the internet.

00:28:12.000 They just went to the liquor store to get some beer, and they said, Bud Light's half off, and they went, wow!

00:28:17.000 Me and my buddies wanna get drunk, we'll take it half off.

00:28:20.000 Some people might even know, and just be like, don't know, don't care, cheap beer.

00:28:24.000 With Target, I think you'll see something similar.

00:28:26.000 A lot of people who know will just say, I will not shop there anymore.

00:28:31.000 That's why Target is freaking out.

00:28:32.000 Not because they're gonna go out of business, but because they could lose 30% of their customers in a month.

00:28:38.000 And that's bad news.

00:28:40.000 I agree with basically everything you're saying, there's just one thing I'd probably phrase differently, and I think you'd actually agree with me on this when you said there's no reason for them to be introducing this sexual stuff to children.

00:28:48.000 We know there's a reason, and we know what the reason is.

00:28:50.000 It's because they want to groom these kids. 0.84

00:28:53.000 Yeah.

00:28:54.000 Target?

00:28:55.000 I think the people at Target who are trying to normalize this, yeah, there's an entire effort within our systems to push sexually perverse behaviors onto children.

00:29:02.000 They're owned by Vanguard, BlackRock, State Street.

00:29:04.000 These companies keep popping up.

00:29:06.000 Any of these publicly traded things.

00:29:08.000 I mean, those three corporations, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street, own like 24% of Target.

00:29:13.000 They are pushing an agenda.

00:29:14.000 I completely agree with you, Seamus, and it is bad.

00:29:18.000 Look, my kids are at a point where I never thought, gee, we need to cover boys are different than girls and all that stuff.

00:29:25.000 It's pretty intuitive, but we're at an age where You know, they're very overtly introducing this to kids and people say, well, you know, gender is a spectrum and it's totally different than sex.

00:29:36.000 No, you're given cross-sex hormones, you're using cross-sex pronouns, and the surgeries that you want to do, including to minors, are on the sexually distinctive physical attributes of your anatomy.

00:29:48.000 You cannot change.

00:29:49.000 You're either an XY person, male, or an XX person. 0.95

00:29:53.000 You can't change your bone structure, everything else.

00:29:55.000 You can't change those attributes.

00:29:57.000 With rare exception.

00:29:59.000 Yeah, it's out there.

00:30:00.000 There are some variants, but that's not what we're having this debate about.

00:30:05.000 Those sections that target and, you know, the whole transgenderism movement that's going 0.86

00:30:10.000 on in the country, spreading all over the place, isn't the traditional, you know, cross,

00:30:17.000 you know, issue with hormones that come, their DNA, chromosome issues that you're talking

00:30:21.000 about.

00:30:22.000 So look, XY people, they're different than XX people. 1.00

00:30:26.000 Everyone has gotten that for all of time until very recently.

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:31.000 No, absolutely.

00:30:31.000 You mentioned this point about us having to debate the differences between boys and girls and you not thinking you'd be at this point.

00:30:37.000 I feel similarly.

00:30:38.000 I first became interested in politics when I was about eight years old because I learned what abortion was and it was so shocking to me that anyone could consider that a morally acceptable thing or that it would be legal.

00:30:49.000 And so I've been interested in these things from a very early age and I had some hope as a kid That by the time I was an adult, if I ever had any kind of political career or a career in commentary, we would have moved on to other issues, and society might have progressed.

00:31:08.000 Of course, my optimism was misplaced.

00:31:09.000 Here we are 20 years later, and we're debating the differences between boys and girls.

00:31:14.000 Literally.

00:31:14.000 We've completely regressed.

00:31:16.000 I don't think we're debating them.

00:31:17.000 I think there is a cult that will lie, cheat, and steal.

00:31:22.000 So they'll come to you and pretend like there's a debate to trick you into debating them because they know that you'll operate in good faith to debate those ideas.

00:31:29.000 Interesting.

00:31:30.000 Meanwhile, I mean, look.

00:31:31.000 I know, I think there's truth in that.

00:31:32.000 It's the video of Jack Posoba getting punched by the leftist, and then when the cops pull up, because the cops watch it happen, the leftist, one of them goes, I didn't see anything happen.

00:31:40.000 They're just lying about everything.

00:31:42.000 They know the difference between boys and girls.

00:31:44.000 They're just trying to destroy the system.

00:31:45.000 It seems like, yeah, when you disrupt the system, it's the person that's the most powerful that suffers the most.

00:31:50.000 So, like, if you cut everybody's value by 5%, it's the rich, it's the one with the most value that's going to lose the most, because 5% of the most is more than 5% of less than that.

00:32:00.000 So, like, COVID shut down the entire world.

00:32:03.000 The United States probably suffered the most because it was doing the best.

00:32:07.000 And now we've got the disruption of the youth, of the psychology of the youth.

00:32:11.000 The United States has the most to lose, because it's the leader of the planet.

00:32:14.000 And I don't think it's an accident, man.

00:32:16.000 It's a global internet— When you cut off the tall grass, the short grass stays where it is.

00:32:21.000 I'm gonna slightly push back against both things.

00:32:24.000 I hear what you're saying, and I think I agree overall, but when it comes to Who can suffer the most?

00:32:30.000 So for example, you're right that someone who's extremely wealthy and loses 5% of their wealth has lost more material wealth, technically speaking.

00:32:38.000 But if a poor person is living paycheck to paycheck and then they lose 5% of their wealth, maybe they can't afford to pay rent anymore.

00:32:44.000 And similarly, we saw during COVID, the UN increased the number of people projected to be at risk for starvation in the third world by like 130 million.

00:32:55.000 So, there are certain things that Western countries can tolerate that poorer countries can't.

00:33:00.000 And that's actually part of why you see it here, right?

00:33:03.000 Because we are so wealthy that we've been able to insulate ourselves from natural consequences for decades.

00:33:10.000 If you had a poorer society, the sexual revolution would have fallen apart almost immediately. 0.92

00:33:14.000 Because what happens when a man starts impregnating women and then he doesn't care for those children, right?

00:33:18.000 I mean, it's social and economic pandemonium.

00:33:21.000 And very wealthy nations can insulate themselves from that for a little while.

00:33:25.000 Leftism only exists in wealthy nations.

00:33:28.000 That's right.

00:33:28.000 That's exactly it.

00:33:29.000 The woke mind virus, as Elon Musk kind of tagged it, is really only in affluent countries.

00:33:34.000 There's no like big woke mind virus spreading all over Africa.

00:33:37.000 They're not transgender outbreaks all over the global south.

00:33:41.000 It's in affluent countries.

00:33:43.000 It's, you know, I talked about this too a while ago when I said feminism can only exist in an empire's sphere. 0.99

00:33:52.000 The United States is so secure that we no longer fear for our women.

00:33:57.000 If you go back to tribal era, medieval, whatever, when you're really worried about wild animals and disease, you stub your toe, you die.

00:34:06.000 The men are very desperately like, if the women die, we are wiped out as a civilization. 0.98

00:34:10.000 So the women are protected Keep them in homes, keep them in the camps, surround them. 1.00

00:34:14.000 You get to the point where you have a very strong military, a very expansive country, crime goes way down, and we start exuding military force out of the country, and so we face very little threats from within.

00:34:23.000 Then all of a sudden, there's nothing to worry about with women reaching higher positions in government. 1.00

00:34:29.000 I know this one probably triggers the feminists, but this is why you don't see these things, like you mentioned, in other parts of the world where they're less affluent, less safe, less secure. 0.98

00:34:36.000 Very true.

00:34:37.000 If we lived in a violent society where people got attacked and shot at and stabbed and raped, Outside, just walking down the street, it would be risky to send your wife out to the grocery store. 0.80

00:34:47.000 It wouldn't happen as much.

00:34:48.000 The guy would be the one that did that.

00:34:50.000 But it is.

00:34:50.000 It still is.

00:34:51.000 It still is a trope of, don't walk down a dark alley.

00:34:55.000 And the feminists have been trying. 1.00

00:34:57.000 There's this weird inflection point where crime was down enough to where the left started saying, stop victim blaming.

00:35:04.000 But for the longest time, we would tell people, don't go walk through a dark alley at night, and women should be worried. 0.96

00:35:11.000 Despite the fact that men are more likely to be victims of violent crime, it's also true that men are more likely to be able to physically defend themselves from another man.

00:35:20.000 But it's not just about men.

00:35:22.000 I'm talking about wild animals and just general danger.

00:35:25.000 If you go way back to humans in a tribal era, If 90, if you have a tribe, if you have 100 men and 100 women and 99 women die, that tribe ceases to exist.

00:35:37.000 If 99 men die, they'll struggle, but they'll probably be okay. 0.99

00:35:41.000 Well, it's not even just a calculation, right?

00:35:44.000 It's men caring about the women in their lives and recognizing because they're not insulated from the consequences of their actions by an unfathomable amount of wealth that men and women do have to be in different roles in order to be maximally safe.

00:35:59.000 And so, this is something that you have to be unbelievably wealthy to even start to consider as a society.

00:36:05.000 The idea that you would start to swap roles between men and women.

00:36:08.000 When you're living in a state of nature, right?

00:36:10.000 When you're one bad harvest away from your entire family starving, you're not...

00:36:16.000 preoccupied with whether you were called bossy when a man would have been called assertive.

00:36:21.000 It's not even a question.

00:36:23.000 And it's not to say that a society where people are worried about starving all the time is better.

00:36:29.000 However, I will say there's no argument to be made that those people aren't stronger and more virtuous than we are today.

00:36:36.000 And I'll also add that we could have the best of both worlds if people were capable of living with wealth While still having a spirit of poverty.

00:36:47.000 There's no generational memory.

00:36:49.000 That's the problem.

00:36:52.000 We don't know what it's like to be preparing for harvest.

00:36:57.000 Some people do, but in the United States.

00:36:59.000 And to say, we've only three months of food prepared for the winter.

00:37:03.000 We're in trouble.

00:37:05.000 We're going to have to eat less and hunt more if we're going to make it through this one.

00:37:10.000 Yeah, and I mean, if you look on balance, I mean, one of my favorite sites out there is like humanprogress.org.

00:37:14.000 Everyone's like, oh, you know, we got too many people.

00:37:17.000 We're never going to make it.

00:37:18.000 You know, the Malthusians were saying that forever.

00:37:20.000 They were wrong.

00:37:21.000 On balance, human progress is great.

00:37:23.000 The innovation has given us lots of flexibility.

00:37:26.000 But the question is, how do we keep the ties that bind us?

00:37:29.000 I mean, you know, part of our motto is this idea of E Pluribus Unum.

00:37:33.000 And part of the way that you teach that is values and culture, shared values.

00:37:37.000 And you think about how easy it was.

00:37:39.000 You go back to, you know, what you guys are talking about, the state of nature.

00:37:42.000 If everyone could live by just a basic truth of don't hurt people and don't take their stuff, we would really not even need government, right?

00:37:49.000 Everything would work just fine.

00:37:51.000 And because people can't abide by that simple maxim, well, somebody's got to be the judge of, well, who was wrong to hurt whoever here?

00:37:58.000 And look at how much government we have now.

00:38:01.000 Versus how little we could have if people could simply not hurt one another or take their stuff We have a constitution that's supposed to have a limited form of government But now we have far more government than will fit within our Constitution And I think the challenge today is how do we get a government small enough to fit back in the Constitution?

00:38:18.000 Because we can afford a government that small.

00:38:21.000 I think I think just conflict will emerge conflict will emerge I think that We look at hard times as bad things, but I don't think they are.

00:38:35.000 I think there needs to be a balance between the good times and the bad times to create strong, well-balanced individuals who are capable of surviving hard times.

00:38:45.000 You know, there's a saying, good times make weak men, weak men, you know, hard times, etc.

00:38:49.000 But I also feel like it's kind of swinging back and forth like a pendulum, increasing the amount of energy each time.

00:38:55.000 You get a good time, then you get weak men, which give you a hard time, and then it keeps swinging back and forth in terms of how extreme it gets.

00:39:04.000 What I'm trying to say is, right now we are dealing with a very serious crisis in the United States and in other parts of the world with actual war.

00:39:12.000 We have many, many, many weak men.

00:39:15.000 In fact, I think this country is... the overwhelming majority of men in this country are weak.

00:39:20.000 For example, in New York, Daniel Penney defends people on a train.

00:39:25.000 Did anybody in New York come out with signs to protest for Daniel Penney?

00:39:30.000 Maybe a couple here and there.

00:39:31.000 But was there like a big march where the police were yelling at him and they're blocking cars saying, he's a hero?

00:39:36.000 No.

00:39:37.000 We don't see that.

00:39:37.000 We do, however, see a lot of people putting up a lot of money, which, for a lot of people, can be even more courageous if you're saying, like, I'm going to take a portion of my resources and allocate it to defending this man.

00:39:49.000 So my point is not that there are no strong men or strong people, but that in places like New York and these big cities, you are more likely to see people say, I better keep my head down and not engage.

00:40:00.000 And I was saying this to Glenn back earlier, I don't think the problem is that evil exists.

00:40:05.000 I think the problem is that good men do nothing.

00:40:07.000 Yeah, it's a great quote for a reason.

00:40:08.000 And you go back to the Declaration of Independence, you know, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor because that's what it takes to defend a country.

00:40:17.000 And that's, look, we're only the land of the free if we are, in fact, the home of the brave.

00:40:22.000 And it does take courage, whether it's to cut a check, to show up to an event, to participate.

00:40:27.000 You got to make the current system work or it is going to fail.

00:40:30.000 Strength also is kind of, like Darwin would say, it's not the strongest of the species that survives, but the most adaptable to change.

00:40:37.000 It's the most adaptable humans that get by, which I think is why people aren't stepping up sometimes, because they want to just get by.

00:40:44.000 They want to fit in to survive.

00:40:46.000 But, you know, sometimes you need people to break the mold.

00:40:49.000 I want to jump to that.

00:40:50.000 I want to piggyback on that, because I think that's a very, very good point.

00:40:53.000 Were you finished, though?

00:40:54.000 Okay.

00:40:54.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 I'm not sure?

00:40:55.000 So, I think that's a very good point, and one thing I would argue is that virtue is what makes you adaptable, right?

00:41:01.000 A person who's living a life of vice is taking the path of least resistance, and what they're doing is engaging in behaviors that feel good for them in the moment, rather than behaving rationally, making a long-term plan, and behaving based on what's going to be good for them down the line.

00:41:16.000 When you're able to do that, when you're able to use your rational faculties to subordinate your passions to what's going to be good for you in the long run, you can adapt to many different kinds of situations.

00:41:27.000 But if you've made yourself accustomed simply to doing whatever feels good for you, well once the dynamic changes, you're going to have absolutely no idea how to interact with the world.

00:41:40.000 I want to jump to this story from TimCast.com.

00:41:42.000 Montana governor signs bill defining male and female.

00:41:47.000 Governor Greg Gianforte was lobbied by his adult son to oppose Senate Bill 458 and other bills regulating gender issues.

00:41:55.000 They say he signed Senate Bill 458 into law on May 19th.

00:41:58.000 The bill states the term female refers to a member of the human species who under normal development has XX chromosomes, and produces or would produce relatively large, relatively immobile gametes or eggs during her life cycle, and has a reproductive and endocrine system oriented around the production of those gametes, including an individual who would otherwise fall within this definition, but for a biological or genetic condition.

00:42:21.000 Additionally, the state will not recognize male to mean a member of the human species who under normal development has XY chromosomes and produces or would produce small mobile gametes or sperm during his life cycle and has a reproductive and endocrine system oriented around the production of those gametes including an individual who would otherwise fall within this definition but for biological or genetic condition.

00:42:40.000 So I'm curious if they included in this anything pertaining to intersex because there are several different genetic circumstances where a person may have XY chromosomes, may appear totally female, and that's like androgen insensitivity disorder or syndrome or something like that.

00:43:01.000 So, someone's biologically male, but their body does not in any way react to testosterone.

00:43:04.000 So, when they're born, they look like girls, and they grow up, they look like girls, and it's like, hey, wait a minute, that's actually a guy whose testosterone never worked.

00:43:11.000 And then there's also people, um, there's a variety of, uh, syndromes, where people could be XYY or XXY.

00:43:17.000 I'm wondering how it defines them.

00:43:19.000 Yeah.

00:43:19.000 I will say, however, This is particularly interesting considering the transgender rep, you know, in Montana, mentioned in the article, the bill was one of several gender-related policies passed during a contentious legislative session, prompting a vitriolic protest from transgender-identifying representative Zoe Zephyr.

00:43:37.000 That led to an official censure.

00:43:39.000 The fact that we've come to the point where we have to define male and female is fascinating to me.

00:43:45.000 And there was an article I was reading recently, I think it was the Daily Mail, that referred to a transgender male, that is somebody who is male but wants to be a woman, as a female.

00:43:58.000 And the media does this thing, which is very strange, where they will call males females and females male.

00:44:03.000 I think that's why they have to do this.

00:44:05.000 So what happens is, first we say, we hear, man is a social construct.

00:44:10.000 Women is a social construct. 1.00

00:44:11.000 You can be a biological male, but be a woman if you're trans. 0.81

00:44:15.000 That's what the left argues.

00:44:16.000 Then they started just once again changing the words and saying, trans female.

00:44:21.000 Now, if you're born male, but want to be female, they call you transgender female, which is not and never was the actual description of what the person was.

00:44:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:31.000 And so this is something I've noticed, where conservatives are now shocked that the left has redefined male and female, which is perplexing to me, because why would that be shocking when they redefine man and woman?

00:44:42.000 They redefine those words, but they're not going to redefine male and female and strip them of all meaning.

00:44:42.000 Why would you think?

00:44:47.000 Well, of course they were going to.

00:44:48.000 You can't, like, retreat into that linguistic territory and expect them not to muddle that up either.

00:44:53.000 And we had Lance from the Serfs, the leftist, I said, someone asked, what is a woman?

00:44:59.000 And he says, easy, an adult human female.

00:45:01.000 And I said, oh, okay, so trans women are not women. 0.98

00:45:03.000 He goes, no, they are.

00:45:04.000 Trans women are female, he said. 0.99

00:45:05.000 Yeah, I was just thinking about Lance.

00:45:06.000 I'm like, that makes no sense.

00:45:07.000 I explained to him that men that transition to be trans women are trans women and men at the same time.

00:45:14.000 They don't stop being one to become the other.

00:45:16.000 They become both.

00:45:17.000 And he was like, no, that's not what they think.

00:45:21.000 He was telling me what the current brainwashing is, is that they don't.

00:45:24.000 But the reality is, you never stop being human when you become a trans man or a trans woman.

00:45:29.000 You're still a human, you're still a man, and now you're a trans woman and a man and a human. 0.97

00:45:33.000 Ian's completely right.

00:45:35.000 If you're an adult human male, you're a man.

00:45:37.000 And then if you are transgender, you are a trans woman, but you are still an adult human male. 0.83

00:45:41.000 Well, oh, sorry.

00:45:42.000 I just think that the definition's pretty good, and it does get after what you say, but for a biological or genetic condition.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:50.000 So that would be the things that you were alluding to.

00:45:51.000 But the interesting thing there, then, is there may be someone who presents completely as female because of, like, androgen insensitivity, And has spent their whole life believing they're a woman only to find out when they're in their, you know, late 20s.

00:46:05.000 So what does that mean?

00:46:06.000 Do they lose protections or are people going to see?

00:46:09.000 I think I look forward to the day that we're back focused on that like point zero one point zero zero five.

00:46:16.000 percent of the population.

00:46:18.000 I hope that's where we get back to.

00:46:19.000 Because right now we're talking about it to the point where, oh, you have to introduce your five-year-old to this and buy them gear at Target.

00:46:25.000 I mean, this is just a crazy place.

00:46:27.000 And it's on purpose, frankly, not for a lot of people that are struggling with it.

00:46:31.000 I think the real question is, you know, why are so many people struggling with it?

00:46:35.000 You know, so you went from in 2013 in the United States, I think there were two gender clinics and now you have hundreds, if not thousand plus of them all over the country.

00:46:44.000 Like what happened?

00:46:45.000 All of human history, you don't have this.

00:46:48.000 Now suddenly it's everywhere.

00:46:49.000 I think the real question is, why?

00:46:51.000 Well there were also just two genders back then, and now there's hundreds across the country. 1.00

00:46:55.000 Social media is a big factor, and I think endocrine disruptors are a big factor.

00:47:01.000 So I think, I was wondering this, you know, I was listening to some old rock, And didn't it, am I just wrong about this, that rock stars used to be a little bit older and gruffer and thicker?

00:47:13.000 Like, I don't know, men just seemed manlier back in the day.

00:47:16.000 Dirty. 0.98

00:47:17.000 Dirtier.

00:47:18.000 Definitely dirtier.

00:47:19.000 Yeah, but maybe that's just how media, you know, portrayed people and now they're trying to change it or something.

00:47:24.000 But there is a trope among millennials where they're like, you watch these old movies and you're like, wait a minute, that dude was 30?

00:47:30.000 They look like they're 50!

00:47:31.000 Why is it that everybody looks so much younger today?

00:47:35.000 I'm wondering if endocrine disruptors have been screwing with us for the past couple of decades, the past few generations, because plastics are a new thing for human civilization.

00:47:45.000 Plastics and vaccines.

00:47:46.000 I mean, if you look at RFK, RFK for, you know, the Democratic presidential candidate, he's talked about vaccines for a long time.

00:47:54.000 You know, look, I got vaccinated.

00:47:56.000 I was in the Army.

00:47:57.000 I mean, I didn't know that you could function as an adult without getting shots.

00:48:00.000 Until I got out of the army and my doctor said, oh yeah, you don't actually need shots.

00:48:03.000 But like every time I went to see a doctor, I was getting vaccinated against something.

00:48:07.000 But if you look at kids that came up in this era over the past, you know, few decades, they've never gone up in an era where they didn't have lots of vaccines.

00:48:16.000 Some people say it's that.

00:48:17.000 I just think we should have an honest investigation as to, you know, what did change.

00:48:21.000 I think, I don't, I wouldn't want to isolate just vaccines.

00:48:24.000 I think big pharma in general.

00:48:26.000 The amount of pills, medications, whatever you want to call it.

00:48:29.000 We're giving kids more shots than ever.

00:48:31.000 We're giving them more pills than ever.

00:48:32.000 We are, we've got chemicals loaded up on our food.

00:48:35.000 Something's happening.

00:48:37.000 It's birth control too.

00:48:39.000 People don't acknowledge that.

00:48:40.000 There's a lot of excess estrogen that just gets peed back out into the water supply.

00:48:44.000 I was thinking, like, I learned about amphetamines in, like, D.A.R.E.

00:48:47.000 in, like, third grade, and I was like, oh, amphetamines are, like, they get you going.

00:48:51.000 They get you speed.

00:48:52.000 They're nasty drugs.

00:48:54.000 Like, the gateway leads you to amphetamines.

00:48:56.000 Amphetamines are the dark.

00:48:57.000 And then all of a sudden, Adderall.

00:49:00.000 It's an amphetamine.

00:49:01.000 I think it's, like, four different amphetamines or something like that.

00:49:04.000 Like, it's a combination.

00:49:05.000 And you're actually considering giving those to children?

00:49:08.000 Considering they do!

00:49:08.000 You're not.

00:49:10.000 So, my point is, when we're talking about, first, you know, because the original subject was male and female and trans stuff, I would not be surprised if, well, I will first say, it is a fact, look this up, there was a birth control that masculinized young girls Because of the exposure to this birth control in women, resulted in the female fetus becoming masculinized.

00:49:36.000 And that, we read about it on the show.

00:49:38.000 So birth control is doing this. 0.99

00:49:40.000 Then we also know that plastics are endocrine disruptors, which is why we use the glass bottles.

00:49:45.000 And Liquid Death had a funny commercial recently about people getting plastic shoved in their bodies to make their butts bigger and they're like plastic surgery or whatever.

00:49:52.000 It was funny because they're all about using aluminum cans instead of plastics because plastics are bad.

00:49:59.000 But I do think a large component is social pressures.

00:50:03.000 Which is why we see typically it's like the overwhelming majority of trans kids are female because they're being pressured by social media.

00:50:10.000 But then I do think one of the reasons we're seeing some of this may just be people are suffering from endocrine disruption.

00:50:18.000 Their bodies aren't producing the right hormones and the right levels.

00:50:21.000 And this is not some right-wing conspiracy theory, right?

00:50:24.000 The data has shown that testosterone has been decreasing for the past few decades now.

00:50:32.000 This is a real problem.

00:50:33.000 I was just learning about apparently when a man sees a woman comes into contact with a woman his testosterone spikes by 20% roughly.

00:50:40.000 This is something I just learned.

00:50:42.000 I don't know if it's real or not, but it sounds cool.

00:50:44.000 And so I'm wondering if all this interaction with women digitally, like watching Movies with women in it, and watching porn, for instance, is getting this, like, the body stops producing the testosterone spike because it's not getting the reciprocity from the woman, so it realizes, like, oh, okay, she's not really there.

00:51:01.000 She's not really there.

00:51:02.000 And then when you see a woman in real life, she's not really there.

00:51:05.000 Like, we're becoming adapted to not have this testosterone spike.

00:51:08.000 I hear you're saying, but I feel like that's way too... that's too many leaps happening there.

00:51:12.000 It's a long shot.

00:51:13.000 If anything, looking at all these women would increase men's testosterone. 0.96

00:51:17.000 You would think so, but then if it happens over and over and over and over and you're not getting the value of the testosterone, the body might just stop.

00:51:24.000 Well, there's at least a correlation between wealth and poverty, right?

00:51:28.000 So if you look, what's different in wealthy countries than in poor countries?

00:51:32.000 And there are so many different things.

00:51:34.000 But I do think that it'd be a worthwhile subject.

00:51:36.000 But today, I mean, look, this professor at Brown, she got canceled.

00:51:41.000 She was one of the first cancel culture people in it. 0.74

00:51:44.000 I mean, she's an atheist professor at Brown.

00:51:47.000 And she started going, well, what happens with like, okay, there's someone who's transgender And then in their peer group, once one person identifies as transgender, lots of other people in that school or in that peer group start to identify as transgender too.

00:52:01.000 And she coined it sudden onset gender dysphoria because she wanted to investigate it and gave it a label.

00:52:08.000 But the whole APA, you know, Psychological Association, went after her, canceled her, got her unpublished and everything.

00:52:16.000 She had written scholarly journals and she was going at it from an academic perspective.

00:52:20.000 They've literally worked to kill any serious academic study into, yeah, what does explain this?

00:52:25.000 And it was just an intellectual curiosity, like, well, why is it all of a sudden spreading to other people versus, you know, the biological or genetical issues that were referenced in the Montana law?

00:52:35.000 Yeah, well this is also interesting too, right, because they'll argue that this idea of social contagion is also a far-right conspiracy theory, but the president of WPATH, which is like the leading transgender activism organization on the planet, has acknowledged that social contagion is driving, in some part, the massive surge of kids who are now identifying as trans.

00:52:59.000 Yeah, you also call it peer pressure.

00:53:00.000 That's what we used to call it in the 80s.

00:53:01.000 Well, isn't it so crazy that they would even try to get away with saying teens aren't doing things because of peer pressure?

00:53:08.000 Of course they are!

00:53:09.000 How could you say there's this one category of behavior that's immune to peer pressure among teens?

00:53:14.000 That's insane!

00:53:15.000 It's also a way for a kid to take control of their parents and the law, basically.

00:53:20.000 Control from their parents.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, if a 14-year-old can be like, now because I say this, you all have to bow to me, and I'm 13.

00:53:26.000 But like, what a power surge for a young human to be able to be like, all I gotta do is say I'm trans and then I can... And then, depending on the state, the doctors will be like, come right in and we'll have those old boys removed.

00:53:36.000 You can get, like, teachers fired if they don't agree with you.

00:53:39.000 You can get politicians fired.

00:53:41.000 Like, it's crazy the amount of psychotic powers involved.

00:53:44.000 No, it's true.

00:53:45.000 It allows you to just jump in social standing massively, which is what young people want.

00:53:48.000 They want more social status.

00:53:49.000 It's not so much about social status.

00:53:51.000 And Ian's point is talking about authority and control of the legal system.

00:53:53.000 But they're the same.

00:53:54.000 They're the same, right?

00:53:55.000 The more social status you have, the more control you have over the system.

00:53:58.000 Like, the most social status you could possibly have is to be in full control socially and legally.

00:53:58.000 No, I disagree.

00:54:02.000 I disagree.

00:54:03.000 People want to just give you things, be around you, and, you know, in terms of authority, you could be the most hated person in the world, but everyone gives you stuff.

00:54:10.000 But I would say that somebody who is in a position of legal authority but is hated has a lower social status than someone who's in a position of legal authority and who everybody loves.

00:54:20.000 I'm saying that they both play a role in social status.

00:54:22.000 Like, if our laws privilege a certain group of people, they have a higher social status, no?

00:54:26.000 Like, to a certain degree, you can argue that people are attracted to someone of great governmental wealth, but there's a balance.

00:54:33.000 If you are the ugliest, most out of shape, smelliest, You know, dude living in a basement. 0.89

00:54:39.000 All right, I get it. 0.98

00:54:41.000 You can, you can, Ian, you can go out in New York and you can dress up in a historical period according to New York law and they are forced to give you what you want.

00:54:53.000 You can force a massive multi-billion dollar corporation to do whatever you want.

00:54:57.000 That doesn't mean you have any good social status.

00:54:58.000 And that's kids in general have no social status.

00:55:00.000 That's the issue, actually.

00:55:01.000 That people of no social status are going and exploiting the system. 0.96

00:55:06.000 Well, but I would say that if there are laws that are written that tell people they're not allowed to disagree with you, there's social status in that, right?

00:55:12.000 When our legal system privileges groups of people, that boosts their social status.

00:55:17.000 So if the law says anyone can do whatever they want, there's no social status?

00:55:20.000 Yeah.

00:55:20.000 My argument is not that social status... I understand that there has to be a differential, like some people have to be lower in social status than others for like the legal question to apply.

00:55:30.000 My point is simply that when one group of people are set aside by the law and said they have special privileges, that increases social status.

00:55:37.000 But I'm talking about how the law does not protect a group of people.

00:55:40.000 It's random.

00:55:41.000 The New York City law says anything you do is protected.

00:55:45.000 It's literally anything.

00:55:47.000 So a homeless person of no social status has control in a system if they choose to.

00:55:53.000 That's not social status.

00:55:55.000 That's just a broken system.

00:55:56.000 So my initial response to what Ian was saying is that creating these quote-unquote transgender protections boosts the social status of people who have that identified label.

00:56:08.000 What I'm trying to clarify is that's not the case.

00:56:10.000 You don't think so?

00:56:11.000 You don't think that that boosts their social status?

00:56:12.000 The fact that they can go around telling people they have to use their pronouns or that employers can't discriminate on that basis?

00:56:16.000 Because anyone can do it for anything, right?

00:56:18.000 So the law doesn't say you have to use someone's she, her, he, and pronouns.

00:56:21.000 It says anyone who says anything has to be respected. 0.75

00:56:24.000 I'm just going to say in New York, if you're a black man and defend anything conservative, then you must be a white supremacist, right? 0.86

00:56:32.000 So, I mean, I do think there's something, I don't know whether it's called social status or whatever, but you have all these people that it's like, if you step out of what they're, you know, one of my colleagues referred to somebody, you know, we don't need any more brown faces that aren't brown voices or black faces that aren't black voices or things like that. 0.98

00:56:48.000 And it's like, well, you know, Tim Scott's like, I'm not supposed to talk?

00:56:53.000 And so there is this kind of, I don't know, heresy code.

00:56:57.000 I don't know whether it's status or whatever, but kind of this whole kind of woke culture has got its own heresy code.

00:57:02.000 There is no doctrine of grace over there.

00:57:04.000 You cross the line, you're canceled.

00:57:06.000 And so I think to your point, yeah, there's a, but that's highly selective in terms of where you would even have status.

00:57:12.000 I mean, some areas, your status goes even worse and maybe even in peril.

00:57:17.000 When they say that anyone can dress in a historical period costume, they are not privileging transgender people.

00:57:25.000 They are basically saying anyone can wear and dress and be called whatever they demand, and you must adhere to it.

00:57:32.000 If they said, if someone who is traditionally male appears in non-traditional, you know, or appears as female, presents in female stereotypical clothing, using female names, you cannot discriminate on this basis.

00:57:44.000 That would be outlining just trans people.

00:57:46.000 But New York's law, it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

00:57:48.000 It says you can dress in historical period.

00:57:51.000 Like, those words actually appear in the law.

00:57:54.000 Which means you could dress up like a pirate in New York City and say, I'm pirate gender, and it's protected.

00:58:00.000 And your pirates could be our inmate.

00:58:03.000 Pirates are not protected, but they are now.

00:58:05.000 That's my point.

00:58:06.000 Pirates are not protected gender in New York City.

00:58:09.000 You are a privileged class.

00:58:10.000 This is something that Jordan Peterson said in response to Bill C-16, which I thought was a great observation, which is that what a lot of these protection laws do is they enshrine Um, a person's fashion choice as like a legally protected identity.

00:58:23.000 That's what I'm wondering.

00:58:24.000 Could I go in in chain mail?

00:58:25.000 Or like plate mail?

00:58:26.000 I identify as a knight from the Middle Ages.

00:58:26.000 Yes.

00:58:29.000 So, so look.

00:58:30.000 I've brought this up time and time again, where the lawyers told me and I'll get laughed out of the courtroom, but the New York Civil Rights Law, uh, Human Rights Commission says historical period.

00:58:40.000 I have no idea why!

00:58:41.000 That's kind of insane!

00:58:43.000 It's not gender.

00:58:45.000 Right, but it literally says it, meaning you can put on a full plate armor and be like, these are my clothes.

00:58:50.000 We talked about this a while ago, right?

00:58:52.000 Yeah, and that's right, we actually had a lawyer on the show, and they were basically saying that, I think we were joking about wearing a fursuit or something and saying like that, and he said, I mean, legally, yeah, but you'd probably get laughed out of the courtroom.

00:59:02.000 Well, no, I talked to several human rights lawyers who told me that.

00:59:06.000 So this is 2019 or whatever, I call a bunch of lawyers and I said, what would happen if someone did this?

00:59:10.000 And they said, everyone knows the point of the law, you'd get laughed out of the courtroom.

00:59:15.000 The problem is now as they've expanded it, there's no way this makes sense when they added the words historical period.

00:59:21.000 Because now you can dress up like I mentioned, you know, put on a safari costume and a big white fake beard and call yourself the colonel, and they can't, that's protected.

00:59:29.000 Historical period is protected.

00:59:30.000 Yeah, I think at some point, you know, a lot of the country's just like, yeah, we're going to move on.

00:59:34.000 You guys go ahead and do that.

00:59:36.000 And we're not going to go along with it.

00:59:38.000 And that's kind of where this whole effort to counter that it goes with Bud Light.

00:59:42.000 Like, man, we're just you do it.

00:59:44.000 Go do your thing as an adult.

00:59:46.000 Whatever you are, but I'm not drinking Bud Light anymore.

00:59:49.000 We talked about that last night.

00:59:50.000 How do you see like the value and differential between political power and I guess private sector power like?

00:59:55.000 Well, there's obviously some sort of correlation between power and money, right?

00:59:58.000 So I don't think that's new to our culture or any other place around the world.

01:00:04.000 But you know, if you look at if you look at You know, influence, you know, at some point, cultural influence really drives the politics.

01:00:12.000 I mean, a lot of times people say in a functioning democracy, you get the government you deserve, you get what you voted for.

01:00:19.000 And people will get frustrated by what we get.

01:00:21.000 And it's hard to believe that, you know, you could have, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene win 80% of the vote in her district.

01:00:28.000 And, you know, You know, AOC won 80% of the vote in her district, and people love them both, but they're so very different.

01:00:36.000 And I think that gets to, like, our Constitution actually is designed to have that kind of flexibility.

01:00:41.000 But somehow, in the era that we're in, there's this idea that everything has to be federalized.

01:00:47.000 And I think that's the problem.

01:00:48.000 It's like, yeah, you can actually do your thing in New York and do it your way.

01:00:52.000 Ohio, we're not going to do that, probably.

01:00:54.000 And, you know, if you really want to, you could maybe do it in a certain area, but we're not going to change our laws like New York did, and Texas may do it totally different.

01:01:01.000 But if you want to make it all one big federal policy and just cram it down your throat, that's the tension.

01:01:08.000 People are trying to seize power in Washington and impose their will on everyone else.

01:01:12.000 Yeah, I think one massive problem with the direction the United States has gone in really over the past hundred years is, to create an analogy, we've gone from a neighborhood to an apartment building.

01:01:22.000 So, when you're in a neighborhood, everyone has their own house, they have their own lawn, they can make decisions about their house, they can add something on to it, subtract something from it, have a garden, not have a garden, own chickens, whatever it is.

01:01:33.000 And you're all houses, you're all in the neighborhood, you all have the same zip code, but you're able to make decisions about your own property.

01:01:33.000 Right?

01:01:38.000 There's some sovereignty, there might be an HOA that puts some limitations on it, but overall you can make your own choice for your own property.

01:01:45.000 Now it's like the United States has become a condominium, and each state is its own little condo.

01:01:51.000 And you're able to make decisions, and it's technically your own property as a state, or as the governor of a state, or as the people of a state, but you're not fully sovereign because There's a certain pattern you have to follow so that you don't move outside of the status quo of what is like architecturally sound for that building.

01:02:09.000 But Ron DeSantis was able to tell him to shove it during the COVID attempted shutdowns.

01:02:15.000 So you would still consider him in the apartment complex, but just like... I would say he's starting to make moves out.

01:02:19.000 Yeah, I would say that like he's sort of starting to shift the paradigm because what happens is when you have an incredibly strong federal government, Each state becomes more affected by decisions made in other states in a way where they historically were not when the government didn't have as much oversight or when the federal government didn't have as much oversight.

01:02:38.000 And so what I think DeSantis is doing, and again, analogies limp, and where this one falls apart, is that we could actually, you know, disassemble the condominium and put people back onto their own property.

01:02:48.000 And I think governors like DeSantis move us in that direction by pulling away from federal oversight.

01:02:55.000 I want to jump to another crazy story.

01:02:58.000 Hard segue, we got this from the Daily Mail.

01:03:00.000 Second Hunter Biden IRS whistleblower comes forward.

01:03:03.000 Agent claimed he was passed over for promotion and removed from tax investigation team for claiming the president's son was getting preferential treatment.

01:03:11.000 They say a new case agent who has not been identified since he was fired last week without any explanation after working on the Hunter Biden investigation since 2018.

01:03:20.000 His complaint comes days after it was revealed the DOJ removed his entire team, according to his supervisor.

01:03:25.000 IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel had told Congress the agency wouldn't retaliate against whistleblowers in April.

01:03:31.000 So, if you are the son of, uh, the President, you get away with committing crimes.

01:03:36.000 If you're the son of this President.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, right, right, right.

01:03:40.000 Because Don Jr.

01:03:41.000 couldn't get away with not committing crimes, right?

01:03:44.000 They were threatening him.

01:03:44.000 They were trying to lock him up for literally nothing.

01:03:46.000 They put his face on Time Magazine, wrote red-handed, and he didn't do anything.

01:03:51.000 100%.

01:03:51.000 You can't catch someone red-handed when they actually didn't do anything.

01:03:55.000 It's wild.

01:03:55.000 But this is how they lie, right?

01:03:56.000 It has to be as far as possible from the truth.

01:03:59.000 It's not a small little lie.

01:04:00.000 It's not a white lie.

01:04:01.000 It's, we caught this guy doing something red-handed when they didn't even have evidence because nothing happened.

01:04:06.000 Yeah, nothing happened.

01:04:07.000 You know who has been caught red-handed?

01:04:09.000 All right, the guy who has pictures smoking a crack pipe and them.

01:04:13.000 That's who's been caught red-handed.

01:04:14.000 Look, not only did he get caught red-handed, the whole coalition of intelligence experts got caught red-handed concocting the story to cover for Hunter Biden's laptop.

01:04:27.000 And look, kudos to Tucker Carlson for highlighting this in the 2020 election cycle.

01:04:32.000 But frankly, it got dropped right away.

01:04:34.000 One of the guys in the middle of that, Tony Bobulensky, came forward, did the interview with Tucker Carlson, and said, look, if it's Russian disinformation, how am I carbon copied on the same email?

01:04:45.000 I got an email.

01:04:45.000 We were part of the same deal flow.

01:04:47.000 How did I wind up?

01:04:48.000 This is true.

01:04:49.000 I know this is true.

01:04:51.000 And I told everyone at the time, look, I know Tony.

01:04:54.000 I will vouch for this guy.

01:04:55.000 He's telling you the truth.

01:04:57.000 And the story was dead.

01:04:59.000 Everyone killed it.

01:05:00.000 And you know, this is why what happened, what Matt Taibbi is working on at Twitter and the Twitter files is so important.

01:05:06.000 Because you see, they weren't just doing this at Twitter, they were doing this all over.

01:05:11.000 And it might not be the exact same cast of characters that wrote the cover story for Hunter Biden's laptop, but it is the same coalition of three-letter agencies that are using the power of the government To cancel speech in America.

01:05:23.000 And whether it was political speech or COVID speech, you still think back to like, I mean, for me, I always like, you know, Dwight Eisenhower, big deal at West Point, big deal for the country.

01:05:34.000 Very successful general.

01:05:36.000 I think very successful president and underappreciated.

01:05:39.000 But his farewell address, he said, you know, cautioned against the military industrial complex.

01:05:43.000 We saw that play out for a long time.

01:05:45.000 Used to be the left was anti-military industrial complex.

01:05:49.000 They can't get enough of it lately.

01:05:51.000 But the other thing he cautioned against was the scientific-technical elite.

01:05:54.000 And if St.

01:05:55.000 Fauci doesn't epitomize the scientific-technical elite, look what was going on in the midst of all this stuff.

01:06:02.000 And at the center of dominating both of those are these three little agencies, canceling and covering and all for political influence operations.

01:06:11.000 For the left.

01:06:11.000 They accused a sitting president of treason, and they targeted his family.

01:06:17.000 And now we have questions about what Joe Biden's doing.

01:06:19.000 And I tell you, the way it feels to me, what it feels like to me is, the nation is captured by corrupt elites, the establishment.

01:06:26.000 That's what we refer to it as.

01:06:28.000 Maybe it needs a different name, maybe we call it the deep state.

01:06:31.000 But these people don't care about this country, and there's something else.

01:06:33.000 We were talking about this last night when we discussed the fall of empire.

01:06:37.000 The idea was that every 250 years, they say, you know, empires collapse.

01:06:41.000 Phil was talking about this.

01:06:42.000 He's like, well, the U.S.

01:06:43.000 hasn't been an empire for 250 years.

01:06:46.000 It's only really since the end of World War II.

01:06:49.000 I think the fall of the American empire would be the greatest thing for the United States. 0.99

01:06:53.000 Because the American empire, as people refer to it, is this expeditionary force that we've sent all over the world with military bases, insane foreign policy, world policing.

01:07:06.000 And what we need to get back to is our own borders, our own people, our own jobs, our own economy.

01:07:11.000 And that's what Trump was doing.

01:07:12.000 The people who oppose him are those who want the American empire.

01:07:15.000 They want war in Syria. 0.71

01:07:17.000 They want pipelines in Europe.

01:07:19.000 They want to control various parts of the Middle East. 0.98

01:07:21.000 And we, as Americans, don't care about any of that, but we're still along for the ride because they're taking us there.

01:07:26.000 Yeah.

01:07:26.000 No, it's very real.

01:07:28.000 And one thing you mentioned about the left loving the military-industrial complex, I mean, this is one of Trump's greatest accomplishments, to be honest, that he pushed the warmongers and the war hawks out of the Republican Party.

01:07:40.000 He turned them into Democrats.

01:07:41.000 A certain amount of them.

01:07:42.000 Rod Bolton has a mistake.

01:07:44.000 Look, look, and this is something I've said repeatedly about Trump.

01:07:47.000 He does not surround himself with the best people.

01:07:50.000 I mean, he has really made some bad picks.

01:07:52.000 He's not sending his best.

01:07:53.000 Some great picks as well.

01:07:54.000 Exactly.

01:07:56.000 Not all of his picks were bad, that's for certain.

01:07:56.000 Not sending his best.

01:07:58.000 But he definitely made some mistakes there.

01:08:00.000 However, my greater point is, so many people So many hawks were able to find refuge in the Democratic Party because they said, initially, or at least they claim to say, we don't like war.

01:08:12.000 And they said, you know what?

01:08:13.000 We don't like war, but we don't dislike it as much as we dislike mean tweets.

01:08:17.000 I have a mixed bag on military-industrial complex because I hated it from 2006 when I found out it existed.

01:08:23.000 I've never known.

01:08:24.000 Now you love it.

01:08:25.000 Yeah, and now I'm like, well... Like, you know, I'm kind of pro-industrialism.

01:08:28.000 If we didn't have American military bases all over Earth, then what would be the other... Like, I had never thought about, like, what would be the other option if we got rid of the American military-industrial complex.

01:08:37.000 Well, there would probably be a Chinese military-industrial complex.

01:08:39.000 There'd probably be, like, Russian invasions all across, and then that would take... So, like... 0.99

01:08:44.000 I don't, like, I'm not, like, just, hey, America, die.

01:08:48.000 I'm not trying to, like, stomp it out, because, like, what, it's so bad, get rid of it.

01:08:52.000 Like, what are your thoughts, Mark?

01:08:53.000 Yeah, look, I enlisted in the Army.

01:08:55.000 The Cold War was going on, right?

01:08:56.000 And, you know, people think about the Soviet Empire was there.

01:09:00.000 They were the communists.

01:09:01.000 We were the good guys.

01:09:02.000 And, you know, I wanted to be part of defending America.

01:09:05.000 And so, I, look, at the time, Hunt for Red October was a big deal.

01:09:09.000 The submarines and the tanks and everything.

01:09:11.000 And I was like, I don't want to be in any of those, but I'll jump at airplanes.

01:09:14.000 That'll be great.

01:09:15.000 So I wanted to be an airborne ranger.

01:09:16.000 I got the chance to go do that.

01:09:18.000 I get over to Germany, the wall was still up.

01:09:20.000 I mean, we had live ammo on our vehicles.

01:09:21.000 We were prepared for the Soviets to come rolling over and the wall goes down. 0.93

01:09:25.000 I was in Bad Tolz, Germany, the German Alps in the south, training with 10 special forces

01:09:31.000 groups.

01:09:32.000 And this guy stands on the podium and he goes, write this day down.

01:09:34.000 This is going to be one of the most famous days in history, 9 November, 1989.

01:09:38.000 And I mean, I was a private, so I didn't say this out loud, but I was like, oh yeah, pretty

01:09:42.000 bold intro to your talk, you know, but he goes, the wall just came down and we didn't

01:09:45.000 know whether he was real or not.

01:09:47.000 So like that Thanksgiving, go into Berlin and see people for the first time.

01:09:51.000 I could speak a little bit of German at the time.

01:09:54.000 This guy could speak pretty good English.

01:09:56.000 And he's like, this isn't like this everywhere.

01:09:58.000 And we were in the Kudam district, which is kind of like Times Square, you know, Berlin's version of New York's Times Square.

01:10:03.000 And I was like, no, you know, we have small towns and everything.

01:10:05.000 He goes, no, the stores are open at night.

01:10:08.000 And there's fresh milk.

01:10:08.000 And I was like, yeah, you know, I'm trying to explain like a 7-Eleven or something to him.

01:10:12.000 He goes, no.

01:10:13.000 And there's like always food on the shelves and like everyone can go in.

01:10:16.000 Like his mind was blown.

01:10:17.000 I was like, yeah, you want everyone to go in because you sell more stuff.

01:10:19.000 But he was told like we were even more poor than they were.

01:10:22.000 We had two blocks for show.

01:10:24.000 And, you know, the elites could go in and get things.

01:10:27.000 But, you know, the regular people went somewhere else.

01:10:30.000 So the flow at the end of the Cold War was not into there other than a little bit of sense of curiosity.

01:10:35.000 The flow was how do we be more like the West?

01:10:38.000 You know, when I was in high school, Ronald Reagan rode through my town on a train, and I got to see him speak in Sydney, Ohio.

01:10:44.000 And he said, you know, a lot of things at that time.

01:10:46.000 One of his famous quotes is, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.

01:10:50.000 But we're in an era right now where people say they want what was on the other side of the wall.

01:10:56.000 They come in Congress and say they want socialism, they want democratic socialism.

01:11:01.000 And I'll just tell you, the place where America is a force for good, so to your point, Ian, The Korean Peninsula.

01:11:08.000 You look, South Korea, south of the 38th parallel, first world economy, first world health care, mission-sending country, all kinds of things.

01:11:16.000 They're a global donor to help others around the world.

01:11:20.000 North of the 38th parallel, they had the other ideology.

01:11:23.000 Paradise.

01:11:24.000 Yeah, paradise up in North Korea. 1.00

01:11:26.000 That's right.

01:11:27.000 Nothing going wrong there.

01:11:28.000 But for America intervening, The whole Korean peninsula would be like North Korea. 0.82

01:11:33.000 Yep.

01:11:34.000 And, but for China, I mean, look what China did. 0.77

01:11:37.000 We could have made the whole peninsula like South Korea, but China stopped it.

01:11:43.000 So look, we do need a strong military, but we don't need an empire.

01:11:46.000 I mean, I think, look, one of the best book titles, I don't know, Republic, Not an Empire.

01:11:51.000 We, what did you, you know, the question to Ben Franklin, what have you wrought, sir?

01:11:55.000 A republic.

01:11:56.000 If you can keep it, and the real thing is we lost our way.

01:11:59.000 How do we get back to a constitution, a government small enough to fit inside that constitution?

01:12:04.000 What concerns me is like the Spanish-American War at the end of the 1800s.

01:12:09.000 Cuba was controlled by the Spanish Empire, so the United States decided, we're going to liberate Cuba.

01:12:14.000 They attacked, they dispelled the Spanish fleet, they liberated Cuba.

01:12:19.000 They didn't take it.

01:12:20.000 We could have made Cuba American territory, but instead, because of the righteous that we were, we let them become independent.

01:12:26.000 And then they became a communist threat.

01:12:28.000 So at some point, the value of being the one in control of the strength and conquering and governing the world, there is value to that.

01:12:39.000 I'm just terrified.

01:12:40.000 I don't know.

01:12:41.000 No, I think that's actually a really good point.

01:12:44.000 My eyes have been opened.

01:12:45.000 We should just go in and start taking over other countries right now, because we're better than they are. 0.99

01:12:49.000 You're saying we should take over Cuba?

01:12:50.000 Name a country, their economies are usually bad, right?

01:12:53.000 There's a lot of crime and corruption.

01:12:54.000 Mexico. 0.97

01:12:55.000 Boom.

01:12:56.000 We already fought a Mexican-American war, and we didn't keep it. 0.99

01:12:59.000 We could have.

01:13:00.000 But the president, who was it at the time?

01:13:02.000 I can't remember.

01:13:02.000 Was it Polk?

01:13:03.000 Some hippie.

01:13:04.000 He was like, nah, we're not gonna keep Mexico, we're gonna give Mexico back.

01:13:07.000 And people in America were actually very much in favor of keeping it after we won that war.

01:13:11.000 And if we did, would there be a big problem with cartels?

01:13:15.000 Now, I'm not seriously suggesting that we invade other countries, but fair question.

01:13:18.000 If the United States did keep Mexico after that war, would there be a problem with cartels and crime and all that stuff?

01:13:24.000 I don't think so.

01:13:25.000 I think there'd still be massive demand for drugs.

01:13:27.000 I mean, that's a big problem.

01:13:28.000 I mean, as long as there's demand, there's going to be supply.

01:13:31.000 That's the problem.

01:13:32.000 But right now, the challenge we're dealing with is, look, drugs have been bad.

01:13:35.000 They've always been bad.

01:13:36.000 It's a bad idea to take them, in my opinion.

01:13:39.000 But now they're being poisoned with fentanyl, right?

01:13:42.000 And so where's the fentanyl coming from?

01:13:43.000 It's coming from China.

01:13:45.000 And look, I just got to think we got to stop that.

01:13:47.000 We're voting on bills today.

01:13:48.000 And look, thankfully, this is now bipartisan, stopping the fentanyl.

01:13:51.000 Because, you know, there's a girl in my district, Lizzie Murphy, 21 years old, took a Xanax at a party, bad idea, but it was laced with fentanyl.

01:13:58.000 One pill, one party, killed her, right? 0.99

01:14:01.000 And so that's happened in tens of thousands of times, like 70,000 Americans dead with fentanyl.

01:14:06.000 And to your point, if we had control of Mexico, look, there might still be cartels supplying something, but we would not have this kind of crisis on our hands today.

01:14:16.000 And that's part of the challenge today since, you know, The question is, can we unite to deal with this problem and so many others?

01:14:23.000 Without conquering?

01:14:26.000 Hopefully without conquering.

01:14:27.000 Do you think we can?

01:14:29.000 I think we can.

01:14:31.000 I'm certainly not calling for an invasion of Mexico.

01:14:33.000 What he's saying is if we went to war in Mexico, we would probably not lose.

01:14:38.000 What about Canada?

01:14:39.000 What's war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

01:14:40.000 If this was all business, I mean, Canada, we would have already acquired them, right?

01:14:46.000 40, 50 million people.

01:14:47.000 I mean, it would be a pretty easy acquisition.

01:14:50.000 They would have better government than they have today.

01:14:53.000 On the other hand, look, they've got Trudeau and all this socialism, cancel culture galore, all kinds of the, you know, utopia that the far left in America wants.

01:15:03.000 I would trade one far left person who wants to fundamentally remake America with critical theory Marxism For one, you know, freedom-loving Canadian.

01:15:12.000 I mean, I might give you a ten-for-one deal.

01:15:15.000 You can have ten of these far-left crazy people for one, like, freedom-loving Canadian. 0.93

01:15:19.000 Or Venezuelans. 0.96

01:15:20.000 What's that?

01:15:22.000 Or Venezuelan. 0.73

01:15:23.000 Or Cuban. 0.92

01:15:23.000 Yeah, trying to escape communism. 0.92

01:15:24.000 People who are like, hey, communism is bad, America is the dream, and they want to be here.

01:15:27.000 We're better off with everything.

01:15:29.000 Just travel.

01:15:30.000 Just travel.

01:15:30.000 I feel like we are on the cusp of the end of the American military-industrial complex, or at least that's one option.

01:15:37.000 And I'm really, like, considering, like, if that does happen and we become just the United States of isolationism, what are we going to do, like, when another country starts taking over its neighbors?

01:15:50.000 So this is an interesting question, right?

01:15:53.000 I want to mention something.

01:15:54.000 There's this phrase, like, isolationism, and I understand this is just sort of a term people use politically, but I don't think not getting involved in wars is accurately described as isolationism, right?

01:16:06.000 I mean, if you're still trading with other countries, if you have pro-social interactions with other countries, you're not isolated, you're just not fighting them.

01:16:13.000 I think with the question of Other countries being invaded, there's a real question there.

01:16:18.000 There's a real concern, because there are human rights violations all over the world, but then also there are human rights violations all over the world.

01:16:25.000 I mean, how do we decide which ones we get involved with fighting?

01:16:28.000 And that's who has the most resources we can acquire.

01:16:30.000 That's why I'm like, it's just all BS.

01:16:32.000 We're not invading China over their concentration camps. 0.53

01:16:36.000 Look at Eisenhower, though.

01:16:37.000 Go back to Eisenhower. 0.72

01:16:38.000 Look, he didn't get called an isolationist.

01:16:41.000 He ended the, you know, pushed for the end of the Korean War, you know, it ended, you know, as he was campaigning to be president.

01:16:47.000 But, you know, you look at winding that war down, he could have continued it and waged it.

01:16:54.000 At the end of World War II is the last time we had as much debt as we have today, right?

01:16:59.000 And we knew, like, you can't have that much debt relative to the size of your economy.

01:17:04.000 So the entire global monetary system was reset and everyone knew you have to pay down the debt.

01:17:09.000 So Eisenhower said, we can't get involved everywhere.

01:17:12.000 You have to be focused.

01:17:13.000 And I think that's the time we're in today.

01:17:15.000 We have to convince people, look, you can't live with this much debt.

01:17:18.000 And even if you say, oh, we can print more money.

01:17:20.000 Well, haven't we just tested this?

01:17:23.000 Well, you can print some money, but you're not going to be able to buy the same amount of stuff.

01:17:27.000 Inflation is real, right?

01:17:29.000 And so you can't just print your way out of this.

01:17:32.000 You actually have to get back to the discipline and focus that scarcity produces.

01:17:37.000 And frankly, Republic keeps you that way.

01:17:40.000 But if you want to try to build an empire, that's why empires fail, is because they overconsume the resources that they've got.

01:17:47.000 And that's really what's happening.

01:17:49.000 And the neocons have done as much damage in terms of debt and destruction of freedom as the far left is in our country.

01:17:56.000 And that's why Trump's presidency was so important.

01:17:59.000 We haven't fully purged the party of these folks, but we need to finish the job and frankly make sure the neocons are homeless.

01:18:06.000 Well, it's a complicated question.

01:18:07.000 I would say the left has still done more damage just because of the denigration of the family, which is the fundamental social building block.

01:18:13.000 But fundamentally, I agree with you that neoconservatives have done a massive amount of damage.

01:18:18.000 And frankly, I wouldn't really draw a distinction between the neoconservatives and the left.

01:18:22.000 All of the ideological founders of the neoconservative movement were either Marxist or former Marxist, right?

01:18:27.000 Irving Kristol said a neoconservative is a leftist who's been mugged by reality.

01:18:33.000 Well, I'm sorry.

01:18:34.000 Reality doesn't mug you.

01:18:36.000 The truth sets you free, but whoever sold you that Marxist ideology did mug you.

01:18:40.000 And it's not true.

01:18:41.000 But what the neoconservatives couldn't see was that it wasn't reality that was corrupt, it was their insane ideology that was.

01:18:47.000 But they still stuck to it.

01:18:49.000 And they believed firmly, and you can tell based on their foreign policy that they believed this, that social order could be fundamentally restructured in ways foreign to the nature of man.

01:19:02.000 Or a culture that's being governed through the barrel of a gun and with the threat of force.

01:19:07.000 Of course we can go to Iraq or Afghanistan and turn these countries into modern democracies, because government can do anything.

01:19:15.000 You threaten force strategically in the right areas, you can completely reshape a culture, an entire culture. 0.75

01:19:22.000 I mean, these are fundamentally Marxist ideas.

01:19:26.000 I don't think they work.

01:19:27.000 They don't!

01:19:27.000 It works over the course of 80 years and just genocide and the eradication of living memory.

01:19:33.000 So we don't know, like the Romans just transformed Rome.

01:19:37.000 It used to be, you know, a lot of different countries before it was the Roman Empire.

01:19:41.000 But now with modern media, there's no way to do that without everyone watching the torture and the annihilation of humanity.

01:19:48.000 So we kind of reject The idea of like going into Iraq and just killing everyone and planting the seed of Americanism that didn't, wasn't going to happen.

01:19:55.000 No one would have tolerated that.

01:19:57.000 Never.

01:19:57.000 So I think this top-down transformation doesn't work anymore.

01:19:59.000 It's not even happening in the United States.

01:20:01.000 In Afghanistan, in a hundred years, if we created the culture there, then I think it would be like South Korea. 1.00

01:20:08.000 Yeah, but it would be so brutal.

01:20:09.000 It would have to be sober, like killing people for speaking out against the new regime kind of brutal.

01:20:13.000 It wouldn't, it wouldn't track with our modern culture.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, and it didn't.

01:20:18.000 And that's why we said we shouldn't be in there and we should leave.

01:20:21.000 It's insane social engineering, right?

01:20:23.000 It's completely insane social engineering.

01:20:25.000 In a similar vein, but what are your thoughts on this Ukrainian war?

01:20:29.000 What's your foreseeable for the future of the end of this conflict?

01:20:33.000 I'm one of a small group of people that's never voted for anything for Ukraine, and it's not because I'm sympathetic to Putin or anything.

01:20:38.000 It was an unjust invasion of Ukraine.

01:20:42.000 And, you know, clearly the Russians have, I think, there's enough evidence to say they've violated norms to the point where they're war crimes. 0.81

01:20:51.000 These things aren't acceptable.

01:20:53.000 But there was a reason that there was a war there, and it was preventable.

01:20:58.000 Look, you can never say it wouldn't have happened if Donald Trump was president, but we know that it didn't happen when he was president.

01:21:05.000 And look, weakness invites aggression.

01:21:08.000 You know, Joe Biden just oozes weakness everywhere.

01:21:11.000 And when you look at how this war is being waged, it is a proxy war.

01:21:15.000 It's undeclared.

01:21:17.000 It's undefined.

01:21:18.000 You know, there's no mission.

01:21:19.000 It's like, well, help Ukraine.

01:21:21.000 Help them do what?

01:21:23.000 Oh, we'll stop the Russians. 1.00

01:21:25.000 Okay.

01:21:26.000 Look, I mean, there is no military school anywhere where that's going to get you a passing grade on a mission statement.

01:21:32.000 Is the mission to make sure that this war doesn't spread to NATO?

01:21:35.000 Is the mission to make sure there are no Russians in Ukraine?

01:21:38.000 Does that include Crimea?

01:21:40.000 Those are all different missions that need different resources.

01:21:43.000 Is the mission regime change in Russia because you're going to have war crimes tribunals?

01:21:47.000 Because you're not having war crimes tribunals unless there's regime change in Russia.

01:21:51.000 So there are people in the State Department that want that.

01:21:54.000 Victoria Nuland, who spent, you know, the better part of a decade working to engineer this war, and frankly is like rooting for it to be bigger.

01:22:04.000 Yeah, regime change in Russia.

01:22:06.000 And, you know, look, the basic phrase, you know, ready, aim, fire.

01:22:10.000 Where's the aim part?

01:22:11.000 We haven't even defined the mission.

01:22:13.000 I just sent a letter last week to Secretary Blinken, like, what do you say the mission is, Mr. Secretary?

01:22:19.000 Because you're coming asking for more resources to do what?

01:22:22.000 Let's define the mission.

01:22:24.000 And I think at some level, any of those could be just.

01:22:28.000 I mean, it looks unjust what Putin did.

01:22:30.000 So you could go all the way to regime change.

01:22:33.000 You could say, look, Ukraine's not part of NATO.

01:22:36.000 It's just that we defend NATO.

01:22:37.000 We're stopping right here, rooting for you.

01:22:40.000 But our focus is here.

01:22:41.000 But you should define it.

01:22:43.000 And if you just have an open checkbook, Frankly, it's the worst of all outcomes because the Ukrainians want their country. 1.00

01:22:50.000 They will do anything to get it.

01:22:52.000 You give them a lifeline and hope, but it's on purpose being turning these people into a meat grinder. 0.81

01:22:56.000 So if you look at, you know, Senator Mark Warner, who He's basically celebrating the fact that it's a meat grinder.

01:23:04.000 It's grinding down the Russian army.

01:23:06.000 And of course, the unstated part is it's grinding down the people of Ukraine as well.

01:23:11.000 That's not a just war.

01:23:13.000 It's certainly not being waged justly.

01:23:15.000 And so I do think you have to define the mission and you have to hold people accountable.

01:23:19.000 If you don't define the mission, no one can be held accountable for success or failure.

01:23:23.000 And that's on purpose, I think.

01:23:24.000 Yeah, I'm wondering if the lack of definition of a mission is because they want to keep it clandestine so that they're not overtly saying, we are involved, Vladimir Putin, just so you know.

01:23:33.000 So they're like, What?

01:23:35.000 We don't even know if we're there!

01:23:36.000 Is there some mystery that we're there or what we're doing?

01:23:41.000 The official seal hasn't been stamped yet, but I mean, the signs are there.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, really.

01:23:45.000 It's lend-lease at the very least, I think.

01:23:48.000 But you think that's why they haven't declared an official mission statement?

01:23:50.000 Because they don't want to push?

01:23:52.000 They don't want the accountability for what the outcome is.

01:23:56.000 And frankly, they want the open checkbook.

01:23:57.000 They want the cash to flow.

01:23:59.000 And they like the meat grinder.

01:24:00.000 And look, These are the same people.

01:24:03.000 If you look at Mark Warner, not only is he the guy celebrating this, he's the guy that introduces the Restrict Act.

01:24:08.000 And they say the Restrict Act is a TikTok ban, except it doesn't ban TikTok.

01:24:12.000 It goes after American citizens. 0.50

01:24:14.000 It's completely Orwellian.

01:24:15.000 It's worse than the Patriot Act.

01:24:17.000 It is the Patriot Act for the Internet.

01:24:19.000 And you look at who the neocons are.

01:24:21.000 They all wanted, you know, to spy on American citizens, but oh, just to keep them safe.

01:24:26.000 What has that power been used to?

01:24:28.000 It's been used to impose their will on Not just government, not just, you know, the Trump campaign, but on average ordinary citizens in every layer.

01:24:38.000 And why would we give them more power?

01:24:40.000 They're essentially saying, gosh, if we had all the power of the Chinese Communist Party, we could keep you safe from the Chinese Communist Party. 0.67

01:24:47.000 That's the restrict act.

01:24:48.000 Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting because one point that's been mentioned here is the fact that our goals have been very vaguely defined, at least on the public facing front.

01:24:57.000 You see this anytime anyone wants to run some kind of scam or hustle the American people, right?

01:25:01.000 You set a goal that's theoretically impossible to meet or that's very vague.

01:25:05.000 So with BLM, BLM is a brilliant scam.

01:25:08.000 Why?

01:25:09.000 Well, because At what point can we say racism is over?

01:25:13.000 It's ended.

01:25:14.000 It's gone.

01:25:15.000 You'll never be able to say that.

01:25:15.000 Never.

01:25:16.000 So, someone's always going to be able to profit off of that brand.

01:25:20.000 Similarly, if you don't define the goal that you have in Ukraine, you can keep throwing money at it.

01:25:25.000 Just like we did in Iraq.

01:25:26.000 Just like we did in Afghanistan.

01:25:28.000 There were so many different stated goals at different times for what had to be done over there.

01:25:31.000 I remember as a kid hearing this repeatedly on the radio.

01:25:34.000 Operation Iraqi Freedom.

01:25:36.000 This is about bringing freedom to Iraq.

01:25:38.000 What does that mean?

01:25:40.000 Right?

01:25:40.000 Like, when do we declare Iraq a free country?

01:25:43.000 At what point does the United States say, alright, we've done our work and it's time to go home.

01:25:46.000 We've achieved our mission.

01:25:48.000 It gives you license to stay as long as you want.

01:25:50.000 After we completely wipe out their government and then leave.

01:25:53.000 Now that people are free.

01:25:54.000 No, they're free.

01:25:55.000 They're great.

01:25:55.000 Yeah, great.

01:25:56.000 Things are gonna be awesome over there.

01:25:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:58.000 Good luck.

01:25:59.000 Big update on the Restrict Act.

01:26:00.000 I mean, relatively big.

01:26:01.000 No one signed that thing in a month and a half.

01:26:04.000 Looks like all that horrible press that came out about it when Lindsey Graham was made a fool of on Jesse Watters' show.

01:26:09.000 That was hilarious. 0.84

01:26:11.000 It's like leprosy now.

01:26:12.000 He's like, I'm not on board with that.

01:26:14.000 And he's like, yes, you are.

01:26:15.000 You're a sponsor.

01:26:16.000 Like, oh, I am.

01:26:18.000 We'll fix that.

01:26:18.000 And he's still a sponsor, Lindsey.

01:26:20.000 Is he still?

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 Because these people are evil! 0.92

01:26:23.000 Dude, Lindsey Graham. 1.00

01:26:24.000 Do you know Lindsey personally?

01:26:26.000 You know, I've met him, but I don't really know him.

01:26:27.000 I certainly haven't gotten to know him.

01:26:29.000 Is it like, do you guys even have a chance to get to know each other in Congress?

01:26:32.000 I mean, we definitely don't spend as much time between House and Senate.

01:26:36.000 You know, I've gotten to know some of the more conservative senators over there well, you know, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, you know, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, some of the conservative folks, Tim Scott.

01:26:46.000 Uh, folks that way in the house.

01:26:48.000 I mean, there's colleagues that I've gotten to know.

01:26:49.000 Great.

01:26:50.000 There's some of my best friends period, uh, anywhere ever.

01:26:53.000 And I didn't meet him until I always started doing this.

01:26:55.000 There's just a lot of really good people that doesn't get enough attention.

01:26:58.000 I mean, frankly, there's at least four or five dozen.

01:27:01.000 Really good people fighting for the right things in the House.

01:27:04.000 That's not enough to change everything, but it is changing things.

01:27:07.000 Aren't people shocked?

01:27:08.000 I mean, they saw this first week when we had the debate and the fight for who's going to be Speaker of the House.

01:27:13.000 And a lot of skeptics on, well, is McCarthy really going to do whatever?

01:27:17.000 I mean, he's fighting, he's doing the stuff.

01:27:18.000 And I think a lot of us said, yeah, I think we're going to get there.

01:27:22.000 And the reality is Republicans are stronger because of our narrow majority, because we did find a way to work together.

01:27:28.000 Do you think Congress is corrupt?

01:27:31.000 It's dysfunctional.

01:27:33.000 And look, one of the ones that I look at is post-COVID, we can't get a healthcare committee.

01:27:41.000 We can't get a dedicated committee on oversight for healthcare. 0.93

01:27:44.000 Healthcare is almost 25% of GDP.

01:27:47.000 When Medicaid passed in the 60s, healthcare was like 6% of GDP.

01:27:51.000 Then we started subsidizing it with Medicare and Medicaid and every other thing.

01:27:56.000 And now over 50% of the babies born in Ohio are born on Medicaid.

01:28:00.000 So, you know, it is a massive takeover of the system.

01:28:04.000 In a lot of hospitals, like 80% of it is healthcare.

01:28:06.000 So you go back to, you know, big pharma, we're like, Four and a half percent of the world's population, we take almost 40% of the world's prescription drugs.

01:28:15.000 Like why is there this big demand for the country?

01:28:18.000 And I think in our country, we have kind of business interests that in a lot of ways have more influence over the politics than the politics have over the business interests.

01:28:27.000 How come there's no committee on far-left extremism?

01:28:31.000 You know, there is.

01:28:32.000 I mean, frankly, when you look at one of the committees that we fought to get created is the Committee on Weaponization of Government.

01:28:38.000 So you look at the Woken Weaponized Government, this subcommittee that it's a part of the Judiciary Committee, but it selects people that aren't even on Judiciary that became part of this Committee on Weaponization.

01:28:49.000 And that's what they're looking at.

01:28:50.000 You look, as they had Matt Taibbi on talking about the Twitter files, Literally, he's there testifying to this committee in Congress, in his house, somebody from the IRS shows up at his house.

01:29:01.000 Now look, having audits happens, but no one, literally no one, believes that an IRS agent showing up at Matt Dabey's house was a coincidence, right?

01:29:11.000 It is a weaponization of government, and we have a committee, and this shows, like, Republicans are taking this seriously.

01:29:17.000 We don't have the executive branch.

01:29:18.000 I know people are frustrated and say, when's somebody going to jail?

01:29:22.000 And I think you look forward to going through the Durham report and saying, why did Durham pull some punches?

01:29:26.000 Why didn't he bring in Comey?

01:29:28.000 Why didn't he refer anybody for prosecution?

01:29:30.000 But Congress, shame on us if we don't follow through and do something, whether it's about weaponized government in the agencies, whether it's about the weaponization of the military industrial complex.

01:29:41.000 They can't pass an audit.

01:29:42.000 There's no accountability.

01:29:43.000 All that happens, we give them more money.

01:29:45.000 If you go over to the Scientific Technical Elite, you're going to tell me we're going to keep letting these guys do like Fauci said to Rand Paul.

01:29:53.000 I don't have to tell you how much money I got paid for approving these FDA patents and drug approvals from licenses.

01:30:01.000 We're not going to restructure the National Institutes of Health or the Centers for Disease Control in the wake of all this stuff.

01:30:06.000 Are you kidding me?

01:30:07.000 We have to.

01:30:09.000 Yeah, when I think of the technical weaponization is the proprietary software of our social media.

01:30:14.000 Like, when I can't know if it's tracking me, I can't know if I'm being manipulated, or I don't have access to know, that's a weapon!

01:30:22.000 That's an entirely different subject.

01:30:24.000 I don't disagree with you that that is a problem, but the weaponization of government and the collusion with big tech, I think, is where what you're saying comes into play.

01:30:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:32.000 Yeah, it is.

01:30:32.000 That is very important.

01:30:34.000 That's probably the main focus, but I feel like if you want to go after Google for weaponizing its software, don't be like, hey, you banned that guy, you're using it as a weapon.

01:30:44.000 It's the fact that, well, firstly, the fact that they can ban the guy is kind of a weaponization, that they have that authority.

01:30:50.000 Like, if I give you a giant stick, you just have a giant stick, but I can start to consider that a weapon.

01:30:57.000 I want to make sure I just merge these ideas for everybody, because you're talking about the weaponization of big tech, but the government was utilizing big tech by going to them, getting a portal made, so the government is effectively using big tech as the shield to say, hey, it's not us, we're not doing it, all we're doing is making requests to a private company, and the private company is removing public citizens and their speech and their ideas.

01:31:19.000 Yeah, but you look like they went after parents that showed up at school board meetings.

01:31:23.000 They just defined a recent term, radical traditional Catholics, i.e.

01:31:27.000 pro-life Catholics.

01:31:29.000 Rad trad Catholics! 0.99

01:31:32.000 We had the whistleblower on our show!

01:31:34.000 Rad Tradkath.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, Rad Tradkath, that's me!

01:31:37.000 So they put these tags on it, they weaponized government.

01:31:40.000 Thank goodness our country was kind of alarmed across the political spectrum when the government wanted to start spying on your bank accounts.

01:31:48.000 If you got $600 of activity, they're going to report all your bank account activity to the IRS.

01:31:53.000 I was really encouraged that most everybody said, whoa, wait a minute, that's crazy.

01:31:57.000 But they didn't hire 87,000 IRS agents.

01:32:00.000 I mean, that's five infantry divisions worth of IRS agents.

01:32:03.000 They don't want five extra infantry divisions of IRS agents to go after a few billionaires and millionaires.

01:32:08.000 You mentioned getting a committee on health care.

01:32:10.000 What would that look like?

01:32:11.000 I mean, it would look like they own the whole jurisdiction.

01:32:14.000 And part of it is they would have a dedicated subcommittee on oversight.

01:32:17.000 So if you look at, you know, yeah, we have an oversight committee.

01:32:20.000 But if you look at energy and commerce, like, A lot of their attention right now is focused on energy policy, right?

01:32:27.000 But they oversee a healthy portion of the healthcare market.

01:32:31.000 And so I think, you know, one of the proxies I get is, well, who spends the most money on lobbying in DC?

01:32:37.000 Well, probably healthcare.

01:32:40.000 Right?

01:32:40.000 And the health insurance companies post-Obamacare, look, they have like 20% net margins.

01:32:45.000 The hospitals have to get bigger and the patients get removed from seeing their doctors, right?

01:32:53.000 So when you had, you know, little kids, they would go to the pediatrician, you could take them in.

01:32:58.000 Well, now you can't because you can't get in for three weeks.

01:33:01.000 Well, the same people that are driving the doctor to be billed, You know, bill every, you know, 10 minute increments or eight minute increments or whatever, log their time and stay loaded up on their calendar so they can't even see anybody.

01:33:13.000 Um, well, gee, guess where the kids have to go now?

01:33:16.000 Cause they can't get in to see the pediatrician tomorrow.

01:33:18.000 Well, they got to go to the ER, right?

01:33:20.000 Well, guess what?

01:33:21.000 The ER bills out at a massively higher rate.

01:33:23.000 I mean, it is the most corrupt system.

01:33:25.000 It's so dysfunctional.

01:33:26.000 And some people are at the point where they're just like, look, I don't care.

01:33:29.000 Nationalize it, healthcare, single payer, whatever.

01:33:32.000 It can't be worse than what we have.

01:33:34.000 Yes, it can.

01:33:36.000 It can always be worse!

01:33:38.000 People from all over the world still come here, it's still the best, but it has not run well.

01:33:43.000 People should talk to Michael Malice, because he talks about this, how people don't understand how bad it was in the Soviet Union, and they think it can't get worse. 0.66

01:33:49.000 Can I just make one point about the USSR?

01:33:53.000 You were talking about this a little bit earlier with the Iron Curtain, before it fell.

01:33:57.000 How people were shocked that there was fresh milk in the stores.

01:34:02.000 So, when you look at the public attitudes in the U.S.S.R.

01:34:07.000 versus those in the United States, Americans were in many cases unwilling to believe that the genocidal activity that was reported as coming from the U.S.S.R.

01:34:18.000 actually happened there because it was just beyond our comprehension that people could be doing that to each other.

01:34:24.000 You know what people in the U.S.S.R.

01:34:26.000 were unwilling to believe?

01:34:28.000 That we had fresh food, that there weren't shortages, that people weren't starving.

01:34:31.000 They thought those were rumors.

01:34:33.000 They thought there's no possible way that there is somewhere in the world where everyone isn't starving.

01:34:39.000 And actually we have fat homeless people now, so it's kind of a problem.

01:34:42.000 Let's go to superchats! 0.59

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01:35:03.000 All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:35:05.000 says, Tim, IRL yesterday was mad fun.

01:35:07.000 Dan is a cool dude.

01:35:08.000 You're both right.

01:35:09.000 Him, F what the F they say.

01:35:11.000 You, we're done holding it.

01:35:13.000 We forward the line.

01:35:15.000 I concur.

01:35:16.000 Bongino was fun.

01:35:17.000 Nachoman Randy Sandwich says, Ian, do Simon and Garfunkel parody The Sound of Seamus.

01:35:24.000 Of Seamus.

01:35:27.000 Ian says, choose the chickens or you'll get mobbed, you was warned.

01:35:27.000 We'll work it out.

01:35:32.000 Ah, that's awesome.

01:35:32.000 Yeah, that's a reference to the new video I just did taking Tim, actually not taking Tim out of context, really.

01:35:38.000 It was the actual, I mean, it was out of context.

01:35:40.000 No, I don't think so.

01:35:40.000 Did you do Tim's voice or did Tim do it?

01:35:42.000 No, it's just an actual audio.

01:35:43.000 I took a completely unedited clip from Tim and animated it.

01:35:46.000 When I first heard it, I thought Seamus somehow faked it.

01:35:49.000 I was like, there's no way I delivered that in this way that fits his video so perfectly.

01:35:55.000 So basically, it's me saying... Tell them to watch it.

01:35:58.000 I wonder if how much... Well, I guess you don't have to say.

01:36:00.000 Well, I'm gonna give the context.

01:36:02.000 There was some violent incident that occurred in a city, and I said, why would people choose to live in these cities where you're getting beaten by violent mobs, when you can go live out in the middle of nowhere and get, like, goats and chickens and stuff, and then I did, like, this little joke line about it's either the chickens or being beaten.

01:36:16.000 So Seamus made a video.

01:36:17.000 Watch it on Freedom Tunes, because it's ridiculously funny.

01:36:19.000 Thank you.

01:36:20.000 Outdoors with the Morgans says, nice job on Beck's show today.

01:36:23.000 Look forward to the day you get back to West Virginia.

01:36:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:27.000 Were you with Glenn Beck?

01:36:28.000 Yeah, he called me.

01:36:29.000 It was fun.

01:36:29.000 How was it?

01:36:30.000 It was good.

01:36:30.000 I was down at the Blaze.

01:36:31.000 Yeah, a few weeks ago I was down at the Blaze.

01:36:33.000 I didn't meet Glenn when I was down there, but I saw pretty much everybody else.

01:36:36.000 It was epic.

01:36:38.000 Yeah, we had a good conversation.

01:36:40.000 What did you guys talk about?

01:36:40.000 Nice.

01:36:41.000 Penny.

01:36:42.000 You know, I basically said that, um... It was what I said earlier.

01:36:45.000 It's just rephrasing the same quote.

01:36:47.000 I said, I don't think the issue with these big cities is that evil exists.

01:36:50.000 It's that good men do nothing.

01:36:52.000 I want to see people rising to the occasion, like Daniel Penny did.

01:36:55.000 I want to see people in New York City protesting out, waving signs in support, peacefully of course, in support of Daniel Penny, and make sure the local government knows that you, as a resident of this city, do not like the crime.

01:37:07.000 And that, you know, there's that woman, the victim and witness said Daniel Penny's a hero who saved her life.

01:37:14.000 That's the kind of stuff you need.

01:37:15.000 People should come out and say that.

01:37:17.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:37:21.000 Purple says, free the code CROSSLANDBOCUS2024, cast proof for life.

01:37:25.000 Bocus is doing good.

01:37:26.000 He got a second round of stem cells, by the way.

01:37:28.000 He's doing really good.

01:37:29.000 He's spunky.

01:37:30.000 We're going to be, we've got Mr. Bocus Pumpkin Spice Experience is coming soon.

01:37:34.000 It's going to be our year round pumpkin spice coffee because I just never understood why they made it seasonal if everybody always wants it and likes it.

01:37:41.000 And then we're doing, this is an idea from one of our members, Focus with Mr. Bocus.

01:37:45.000 Yes.

01:37:46.000 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 We'll be, I think it's going to be our espresso roast.

01:37:49.000 So context for that super chat, free the code, is something I say a lot in regards to the social media networks, the large social media networks that are acting in the commons, Google, Twitter, Facebook.

01:37:58.000 I feel like their source code should be available for people.

01:38:01.000 Yeah, that was a pretty bold move by Elon Musk to go public.

01:38:05.000 Here's our algorithm.

01:38:06.000 You can look at it and give us suggestions.

01:38:09.000 And he threw the gauntlet down, and of course no one has taken it up.

01:38:12.000 They're not going to out what's going on at Meta.

01:38:15.000 I would be open to, as like an anti-trust movement, to mandate that companies functioning in the United States have to have free software code.

01:38:23.000 I'm talking AGPL-3.

01:38:24.000 I don't know about all of their code, but the algorithms.

01:38:26.000 Well, we'll start with the algorithms.

01:38:28.000 Because that's manipulating the public.

01:38:30.000 Alright, omgbuppies says, DeSantis understands the culture war.

01:38:34.000 The need to stop the long march through the institutions.

01:38:38.000 The GOP has generally failed in this regard.

01:38:40.000 I like DeSantis.

01:38:42.000 If he becomes president, I will be happy.

01:38:44.000 I just think we need right now, you know like, I'm imagining this big siege vehicle, you know, and Donald Trump is the bull in front of it.

01:38:53.000 He crashes through the gates and he rampages up the ivory tower and they run fleeing from the building and then DeSantis comes in and starts signing the policies and the bills and stuff.

01:39:02.000 That's how I view it.

01:39:05.000 Henry says if DeSantis wins the primary, I can see Trump running as an independent.

01:39:08.000 If that happens, the Democrats win due to a split conservative vote.

01:39:12.000 Yeah, it's entirely possible.

01:39:14.000 Yeah, although they did let Donald Trump run last time because or in 2016 because they thought he was an easy

01:39:20.000 candidate to beat.

01:39:21.000 I think the Pied Piper candidate. Yeah. Yep, man where they were wrong.

01:39:25.000 Viking Vets says this is what all these politicians don't understand.

01:39:30.000 It's not about winning. 0.99

01:39:31.000 We don't care to win if it's back to the old useless Republicans. 0.98

01:39:36.000 We would rather go down swinging than bend the knee with a neocon win. 0.98

01:39:40.000 I'm not, I don't think DeSantis is diswamped-us.

01:39:44.000 I think DeSantis is doing a lot of really, really great policy and he's really understanding what motivates a lot of us.

01:39:50.000 I just see him as He's not... He's a CEO.

01:39:55.000 Oh, not a CEO.

01:39:56.000 You know?

01:39:57.000 CEO is like Trump.

01:39:59.000 I don't know, man.

01:40:00.000 He's been rocketed in Florida and he's definitely not a neocon.

01:40:03.000 No, I agree.

01:40:04.000 I like DeSantis.

01:40:05.000 But what I mean by COO is he's the one running the company, getting the job done, but the CEO is the visionary who's telling, you know, like DeSantis... I mean, DeSantis is a little more introverted.

01:40:15.000 Trump... There you go.

01:40:17.000 You can't get much more extroverted than Donald Trump.

01:40:19.000 You cannot.

01:40:20.000 I mean, he just fuels energy.

01:40:23.000 Anytime you're in his presence, he's got energy.

01:40:26.000 You have a good time.

01:40:27.000 Even people that don't want to have a good time in Donald Trump's presence, Fine.

01:40:32.000 You're actually having a good time with Donald Trump.

01:40:34.000 You know, DeSantis isn't that kind of personality.

01:40:36.000 I mean, he's a guy that'll, you know, he'll be kind and everything else, but like once he talks, he just can go back in the back and start cranking away on another policy and just get after it.

01:40:46.000 And, you know, I think either of them can be good.

01:40:48.000 I know, you know, Probably what's going to work in terms of rallies is going to be the energy behind Trump, and energy really does drive electoral politics in a lot of ways.

01:40:59.000 That's why DeSantis didn't win by much of a margin when he ran the first time, but then after the people in Florida experienced the, you know, let this guy just go off and do his thing and he's going to come back and roll out another killer policy, they're like, oh, we want more of that.

01:41:13.000 And they wanted a lot in Florida.

01:41:15.000 Alright, we got a question for you from, uh, there's no name.

01:41:18.000 It says, Warren, can you touch on the SEC Chairman Gary Gensler and his attack on crypto innovation in the U.S., also about his role as CFO for Hillary 2016, signing off on the payment for Crossfire Hurricane, get him out of office.

01:41:31.000 Yeah, we're working to get rid of Gary Gensler.

01:41:33.000 I gave a hearing where I was able to communicate with him and say, look, I plan to fire you.

01:41:38.000 We've got a bill that basically restructures the Securities and Exchange Commission and eliminates the chairmanship.

01:41:44.000 He fires Gary Gensler as chairman.

01:41:46.000 He would still be a commissioner.

01:41:48.000 And right now there are five commissioners.

01:41:50.000 Originally it was created as a commission because the commission was supposed to do the decision making, and then they supercharged the powers of the chairman.

01:41:57.000 And Gary Gensler is front-running everybody.

01:41:59.000 I mean, he's moving ahead of Congress, Republicans and Democrats, the House, the Senate.

01:42:03.000 He's moving ahead of Treasury.

01:42:05.000 He's moving ahead of CFTC.

01:42:07.000 And frankly, it's all to impose his will on everything.

01:42:11.000 And so there's almost no accountability.

01:42:12.000 The commission, you either have four commissioners that are useless, Or you need, you know, and one chairman, or you go back to say, look, our capital markets are the best in the world.

01:42:23.000 I mean, look, we got four or 5% of the world's population, 25% of the world's GDP.

01:42:28.000 We have over 50% of the world's invested capital.

01:42:31.000 I mean, why would you mess that up?

01:42:32.000 But Gary Gensler is in the process of messing it up.

01:42:35.000 And you look at crypto, he's clearly declared war on crypto.

01:42:39.000 He's a henchman for Elizabeth Warren.

01:42:41.000 And he's front-running everything for Elizabeth Warren, frankly Sherrod Brown, who's the chairman of Senate Banking.

01:42:46.000 So they're doing nothing over there except incentivizing him to do this.

01:42:50.000 The way to rein him in is to restructure the Securities and Exchange Commission.

01:42:54.000 Right on, right on.

01:42:56.000 Let's grab this next Super Chat.

01:42:59.000 John McGee says trial for Trump's 34 New York charges is set for March 25th, 2024, right in the middle of primary season, and he has to be present.

01:43:07.000 If that's not coordinated election interference, what is?

01:43:12.000 Yep.

01:43:14.000 You know what though?

01:43:15.000 That would look great for him.

01:43:16.000 I'm sorry I was late.

01:43:19.000 I was in court because the swamp brought me in.

01:43:23.000 Amazing.

01:43:24.000 Fantastic PR for him.

01:43:27.000 A lot of states are going to do that.

01:43:29.000 until he wins the primary going into the general and decree he is ineligible, then say Dem

01:43:33.000 and third or fourth parties only on ballot.

01:43:36.000 A lot of states are going to do that.

01:43:37.000 I would not be surprised if New York says, New York will pass some law about eligibility

01:43:41.000 or something.

01:43:43.000 So you think like in the state of New York, they would remove Trump from the ballot?

01:43:47.000 I think a bunch of states will try to do it, but I'm not sure it matters, because any state where it's contested, you're gonna have people saying, do not remove his name.

01:43:53.000 I mean, that's the whole thing, where they want to try to get somebody convicted of a felony, because that makes you not a qualified elector in those states, and then you can't appear on the ballot.

01:44:02.000 So, look, if they can't stop, they're so committed to stopping Donald Trump in any way they can, so you kind of got a plan.

01:44:09.000 How are they going to go after him?

01:44:11.000 And you got to have a plan to stop him.

01:44:12.000 And this is also why I really, really like him.

01:44:16.000 I know people have concerns about electability, but I'm sorry they're not doing the same things to stop DeSantis.

01:44:20.000 They're just not.

01:44:22.000 Because they know that... They're scared of Trump.

01:44:24.000 They are particularly afraid of Trump.

01:44:26.000 That is why I like him.

01:44:27.000 Yeah, me too.

01:44:28.000 Jeff T says, Harley Davidson teamed up with Budweiser.

01:44:31.000 Harley's stock is crashing.

01:44:33.000 What were they thinking?

01:44:33.000 Is that true?

01:44:34.000 Is that true?

01:44:35.000 Oh no!

01:44:38.000 Hopefully that was a deal that, if it's true, hopefully that was inked ahead of April 1st.

01:44:44.000 But there are places like stadiums that don't want that deal.

01:44:47.000 No, their stock's up 1%.

01:44:48.000 Okay.

01:44:49.000 Yeah, in the past month, they're down 13.82%.

01:44:54.000 In the past six months, they're down 31%.

01:44:56.000 I don't think it has anything to do with Bud Light.

01:44:58.000 It's a bit of a hit either way.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:45:00.000 I mean, they're doing poorly, but five, six months ago, that was well before what happened with Bud Light, so.

01:45:08.000 Maybe they're panicking and trying to figure something else out.

01:45:12.000 Bo says, what do you guys think about an election system where you can track your own vote to ensure it's who you voted for, access it with name, social security number, and current address?

01:45:20.000 Also a litmus test and easy civics question like number of states.

01:45:25.000 Yeah, the downside for that is then your vote's not private.

01:45:28.000 Somebody else can know exactly how you voted as well.

01:45:30.000 If they have your private information and your social security number, name, birthday, and mother's maiden name and address.

01:45:35.000 If it's encrypted and you have like a QR code that only you can scan with your device.

01:45:39.000 You mean like you had private keys and there was a public key or something like that?

01:45:43.000 It prints out a code.

01:45:44.000 Like a blockchain?

01:45:45.000 Yeah.

01:45:46.000 It would be the same thing where, you know, if it's not your keys, then it's not your coins.

01:45:50.000 If you had not your keys, not your vote, then you can actually have a different system.

01:45:55.000 Here's the problem.

01:45:57.000 Let's say you go to a voting station and you go to the machine and you say, I'm voting for DeSantis.

01:46:02.000 And then it goes, here's your, your ballot has been tabulated.

01:46:04.000 Here's your QR code proof.

01:46:06.000 And you go, awesome.

01:46:07.000 Take your phone and you scan it and it says Trump.

01:46:10.000 And you go, hey, I voted for DeSantis.

01:46:13.000 You can't sue.

01:46:13.000 You know why?

01:46:14.000 One vote doesn't change the outcome of an election.

01:46:17.000 So you'd go to court and they would say your vote... There are times where one vote does change the outcome of an election.

01:46:23.000 So what happened with a lot of the votes that Trump brought forward, I'm sorry, a lot of the lawsuits, is when they were like hey look we've got what we believe is you know impropriety in terms of the like signature verification they'd say the amount of votes in question would not alter the results therefore case dismissed yes standing was the argument and that's what made so many people so frustrated uh between november and january 6th and why they wanted to show up and rally rally peacefully protest

01:46:50.000 And frankly some people were so frustrated to the point where they crossed the line because they felt like they couldn't get, you know, any kind of hearing in court.

01:46:59.000 The courts were not listening and frankly a lot of people felt like the politicians weren't listening.

01:47:05.000 And so I think that's why we had the process.

01:47:07.000 What you'd have to do with the QR codes is if you found that your vote was incorrect and they wouldn't fix it and you can't get a lawsuit, you'd have to find a number of people That would equal that have evidence of their votes being improper.

01:47:22.000 But then the problem is how do you prove your original vote was actually for the other candidate?

01:47:26.000 What will end up happening is they'll go to court and they'll argue they did vote for Trump.

01:47:31.000 They're just expressing regret now and their votes are correct.

01:47:35.000 You know what would happen?

01:47:37.000 You'd take a picture showing that they voted for someone else than you asked to vote for, you'd post it to social media, and you would just get banned.

01:47:45.000 They'd be like, ah, this is a... Yeah.

01:47:48.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:47:50.000 Paul Nyholm says, China's demanding loan payments from their Belt and Road Initiative, and they are starving out third world countries by causing them to default and drop their own social and government services.

01:48:00.000 That was always the goal.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, that's a tactic.

01:48:02.000 Economic hitman.

01:48:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:48:04.000 Yeah.

01:48:05.000 That's what we're going to do in the rest of Africa as well, unfortunately. 0.98

01:48:07.000 That's what they're going to do to Ukraine. 0.99

01:48:08.000 Yeah, totally.

01:48:09.000 Nat Heisenberg says, Gadsad coined woke mind virus, Elon repeated.

01:48:15.000 Correcting the record.

01:48:17.000 Xerath Ecliptico says, men are learning, as long as the family courts are weaponized against them.

01:48:24.000 No fault divorce is teaching that it is no longer worth the risk to wed in a family when it can be stripped away with a simple, I'm not happy.

01:48:32.000 That was Ronald Reagan.

01:48:33.000 I think Ronald Reagan put the stake to the heart of this country and just drove it straight through with no-fault divorce.

01:48:40.000 Not even a question.

01:48:41.000 Unbelievably horrible.

01:48:42.000 You can talk about a lot of good things you like him for, things that he did were good, I don't know, sure, sure, whatever, but no-fault divorce was like, let's literally just destroy the foundation of this country.

01:48:51.000 It's horrible.

01:48:52.000 With, like, functional prenups, I could imagine it, like, if we get divorced, all my prior money is still mine.

01:48:59.000 And then, I think you were saying, Seamus, there are versions of prenups where if I initiate the divorce, I forego my prenup, and you can take half of whatever, so it kind of disincentivizes the divorce.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, basically, I'm against prenups as a concept, but that's one version of it that I think might... I don't know, because what you're saying is, because then you're incentivizing a person to stay in the marriage, right?

01:49:21.000 So I guess that couldn't be... That's not similar to other prenups, but one thing I'll mention, with Reagan and no-fault divorce...

01:49:28.000 This is the reality of the slippery slope.

01:49:30.000 What happened was on Reagan's first marriage, according to him, his ex-wife had to make up a bunch of lies and false accusations against him in order to get the divorce.

01:49:40.000 So his thinking was, well, if we have no false divorce, people aren't going to be smeared with false accusations because their wife wants to leave them.

01:49:48.000 Well, this is what always ends up happening.

01:49:50.000 People claim we're going to give an outlet to something that's already happening because it's an ugly reality but we can't prevent it.

01:49:56.000 And then that thing ends up exploding.

01:49:58.000 This is how the left always gets the social change it wants.

01:50:00.000 Let's just let this small handful of people who are going to do this anyway do this thing and then everyone ends up doing it.

01:50:06.000 No Fault Divorce is a perfect example.

01:50:08.000 Let's give an outlet to something that's already happening and now it happens all the time.

01:50:13.000 All right, Guardsman Norheim of the 10th First says, Tim, I was watching The Hill this morning and was blown away to see one host, Brianna Joy Gray, claim you were covering for neo-Nazis.

01:50:22.000 I think they need to consider and change host again.

01:50:26.000 Why were you watching The Hill's Rising?

01:50:27.000 Wait, why were they saying you were covering for neo-Nazis?

01:50:30.000 Because of that guy who took four clips of one episode and posted it on Russian social media, so they claim.

01:50:36.000 And because I was like, how do we even know that's legit?

01:50:39.000 And the media was claiming that this guy was a fan because he took four clips from one episode of the show, and the clips show he wasn't even subscribed to the show.

01:50:49.000 Isn't it amazing that there was no attribution to Bernie Sanders when one of his fans decided to shoot up a bunch of my colleagues at a congressional baseball game?

01:50:58.000 Actually, the other host on the show actually brought that up and made that a point, saying no one actually... Oh, Robbie said that?

01:51:03.000 Yeah, Robbie said that.

01:51:04.000 Well, what I will say of The Hill Rising is...

01:51:07.000 You have two things to consider here.

01:51:10.000 You can watch The Hill, which is a machine built on corporate dollars where they've chosen hosts to put on a show, and these are not people who built the show, these are not people who are particularly good at what they do.

01:51:22.000 Or you can come to a show like 10 Cast IRL, which was built from the ground up without any corporate investment or backers, and the show works because we did a good job of it.

01:51:30.000 Why is it that Brianna Joy Gray would say something so nonsensical about me, and I believe it was Elon Musk?

01:51:35.000 Uh, Elon Musk, yeah.

01:51:36.000 Elon Musk.

01:51:36.000 It's because she is not a competent media personality who would normally rise to this position.

01:51:42.000 She was someone who was put in this position because she's on Twitter.

01:51:46.000 Whereas, why do you come to watch this show?

01:51:48.000 Well, this show was really small, and it was a YouTube channel with no support, no funding or anything.

01:51:52.000 We started doing it, and then people were like, hey, this show's pretty good, and they started watching it.

01:51:56.000 The Hill's Rising is, they invested a bunch of money, shuffled around various hosts, found a person, and now they have vapid opinions that don't seem to make sense.

01:52:03.000 I'm not surprised.

01:52:04.000 Also, this is hilarious, hold on, I just gotta make a comment about this.

01:52:08.000 They're claiming that you're covering for a neo-Nazi by saying he wasn't one of your fans?

01:52:14.000 How is that covering for him?

01:52:15.000 Like, that makes him worse if he's one of your fans and you're covering for him?

01:52:20.000 Because The Hill Rising is fake, not woke.

01:52:22.000 It's like, it is woke.

01:52:24.000 They want us to bow and say, oh no, oh geez, we better adhere to the machine's narrative because look what they're smearing us with.

01:52:31.000 The media comes out and claims that he was a fan because they're liars.

01:52:35.000 Typical, yeah.

01:52:36.000 Bellingcat.

01:52:37.000 Oh, I trust Bellingcat.

01:52:39.000 I'm pretty sure it was the founder who was making AI images of Trump getting arrested.

01:52:43.000 Like, that's a non-partisan actor.

01:52:46.000 They find this profile.

01:52:47.000 There's no direct evidence of it.

01:52:50.000 I think it's like CNN's like, but he had a picture of his birth certificate or some other nonsense.

01:52:54.000 Like, oh yeah, we all post that to our social profiles.

01:52:56.000 Makes no sense.

01:52:57.000 I don't know or care.

01:52:57.000 But maybe it's real.

01:52:59.000 A dude posting four clips from one show, and you can see he's not subscribed, is not a fan.

01:53:04.000 They're just saying that because they are trying to weaponize things for political gain. 1.00

01:53:08.000 If Breonna Joy Gray is saying that, it's because she is lying to you, or because she's just very, very stupid. 1.00

01:53:14.000 Which is possible to be both. 1.00

01:53:15.000 It just got bought.

01:53:16.000 As of tomorrow, it's owned by Nextstar Media Group.

01:53:20.000 Talk about corporate conglomeration.

01:53:22.000 It's funny, the whole way she threw that, she was talking about anti-legacy media, saying, oh, we're not part of big media, and stuff like that.

01:53:29.000 It was just so funny.

01:53:30.000 Well, you are now, Breonna.

01:53:31.000 Look it up, though.

01:53:31.000 What's Nextstar?

01:53:32.000 Nextstar Media Group.

01:53:33.000 Let's find out.

01:53:35.000 Could be a startup, who knows.

01:53:36.000 I'm just saying, like... No, they're big.

01:53:39.000 They own a lot of stuff.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:41.000 You can take a bunch of money, buy a set, and then say, find me a host for a show, or you can look at the people who are rising in today's ranks, people who just slowly built up a show because they did a good job.

01:53:52.000 It's meritocracy versus institutional power.

01:53:57.000 Yeah, it's publicly traded.

01:53:58.000 Nexstar is publicly traded.

01:53:59.000 They own CW.

01:54:00.000 They own 75% of CW.

01:54:02.000 Oh, so the Hill Rising is this big corporate network.

01:54:05.000 They have those opinions.

01:54:05.000 Surprise, surprise!

01:54:07.000 But I'll tell you how it works.

01:54:08.000 They don't go to people like Brianna Joy Gray and say, say this or else you're fired. 1.00

01:54:13.000 They find people who are stupid who say stupid things and then say, that's the kind of person we should hire. 1.00

01:54:18.000 So I've seen this at all the media companies I've worked for. 1.00

01:54:21.000 How is it that you end up with someone who writes a story that's just the most insane garbage ever, They're not forced to do it. 1.00

01:54:26.000 These are people who genuinely believe stupid things because they're not smart. 1.00

01:54:29.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:54:30.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 Surprise, surprise.

01:54:32.000 Chris Page says, Seamus, back in the day, old people would plant a tree or build a business for the children. 0.98

01:54:37.000 Now they sell the children or gifts...

01:54:40.000 or gifts of the old for today.

01:54:43.000 Hmm. No, well, I think it's true. People sell out.

01:54:45.000 No, it's true.

01:54:46.000 I mean, we live in a culture where people are so focused on their immediate short-term gain that the elderly actually care more about their own comfort or even social standing than they do the next generation. 0.61

01:54:58.000 Alright.

01:55:00.000 I'm reading this one.

01:55:02.000 It says, uh, Evil Zombie Ham says this $20 is for Seamus.

01:55:04.000 Oh, thank you.

01:55:05.000 Tim Pool Chicken Tune is freaking hilarious.

01:55:08.000 I've been playing it on repeat and laughing for the last five minutes.

01:55:12.000 Tim probably won't give you the $20, so it's a good thing I'm a member of your site.

01:55:15.000 That is not true.

01:55:16.000 Thank you!

01:55:16.000 I have $20 right here.

01:55:18.000 Oh, from you to Seamus.

01:55:19.000 Thanks for working.

01:55:20.000 Thank you.

01:55:20.000 I can't throw it!

01:55:21.000 Guys, give me superchats and say that more often so that Tim just keeps taking money out of his wallet.

01:55:26.000 And I will remind people that a portion of that superchat does go to YouTube, so you're getting a premium.

01:55:31.000 I'm getting a premium, so send more money and we'll bankrupt Tim.

01:55:33.000 So basically what happens is, I made a funny joke, Seamus took my funny joke, How dare you!

01:55:39.000 How dare you characterize it that way!

01:55:42.000 You made an innocuous statement, and as I was listening to it... Innocuous! 0.99

01:55:44.000 It was perfectly delivered!

01:55:45.000 You were being completely serious!

01:55:47.000 You were saying, this is how I really feel about the world, my name's Tim Pool, and then I said, this is gonna make an excellent cartoon.

01:55:53.000 It was really funny how, like, you basically turned in my warning, you turned it into a threat.

01:55:57.000 Like, so basically I was saying, like, it's a warning.

01:55:59.000 You live in these seasons.

01:55:59.000 What happens?

01:56:00.000 And then Seamus animated it so it looks like I'm threatening people.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, you guys really have to watch it.

01:56:05.000 Please.

01:56:06.000 I can't wait.

01:56:07.000 When he showed it to me, I was crying, laughing.

01:56:09.000 It was so good.

01:56:10.000 I showed him this morning.

01:56:11.000 He was dying.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, and I was like, I went and got my girlfriend.

01:56:13.000 I was like, you gotta watch this.

01:56:15.000 Come on, come on. 0.99

01:56:16.000 And she was like, I don't get it.

01:56:18.000 No, I'm totally kidding.

01:56:19.000 She loved it.

01:56:20.000 She busted out laughing. 0.98

01:56:20.000 Yeah, she was laughing too. 0.98

01:56:21.000 Free Food for a Life says, just wanted to say, hi Seamus, love your work on cartoons and your podcast.

01:56:26.000 But in your podcast and pints with Aquinas, y'all about have me converting from Protestantism to Catholicism.

01:56:33.000 Yes!

01:56:33.000 No.

01:56:34.000 Yes!

01:56:35.000 Do it!

01:56:36.000 You're so close.

01:56:37.000 You could do it.

01:56:38.000 Send me a DM.

01:56:39.000 Send me a DM on Twitter.

01:56:41.000 They're talking about Shamer?

01:56:42.000 Yeah, they're talking about shame.

01:56:43.000 So what's the premise?

01:56:43.000 I haven't seen it yet.

01:56:44.000 I shame everybody.

01:56:46.000 Just one by one?

01:56:47.000 I just go through the whole country.

01:56:48.000 I'm like, shame on this guy for this reason.

01:56:50.000 No, I'm just sort of like talking the issues.

01:56:51.000 It's just a political podcast where I go through the events of the day and then sometimes I'll interview people.

01:56:55.000 All right, let's read this one.

01:56:56.000 Sean D says, thank you for representing Butler County.

01:56:59.000 Is there any way for Ohio to get its representation back from the southwestern states with illegal immigrants counted in the census?

01:57:06.000 Ohio GOP were able to district out Tim Ryan or else they were going to come for your seat.

01:57:12.000 Yeah, look, this is a great question.

01:57:14.000 I've got a bill that is basically called the Fair Representation Act.

01:57:18.000 It basically makes it so, like, the 14th Amendment is clear to me that, you know, I don't represent, I represent American citizens.

01:57:25.000 I represent no one who's not a citizen.

01:57:28.000 If you came to the country legally, I mean, I hope you have a good time.

01:57:31.000 Glad you came to America.

01:57:33.000 Your representation is at an embassy or a consulate.

01:57:38.000 The downside is the way that Donald Trump got beaten in this lawsuit, he tried to fight it and so that we counted citizens.

01:57:46.000 The way that non-citizens are stealing representation isn't just by people trying to vote illegally.

01:57:52.000 It's when you have over-representation on the congressional maps.

01:57:57.000 We've talked about it quite a bit actually.

01:57:59.000 You have like five to seven extra members of Congress in California and with the sanctuary cities you oversample the population in urban areas so it creates more blue districts, specifically blue districts, and it puts more people into certain states.

01:58:13.000 So it really is theft of representation.

01:58:16.000 And then when you look at the way the resources are distributed, it's generally distributed on a per capita basis.

01:58:22.000 It should be distributed on a per citizen basis or an electoral vote basis.

01:58:26.000 That would be a better system.

01:58:28.000 And we should decide that of our own accord.

01:58:31.000 But if we can't, we should amend the Constitution to make it clear.

01:58:34.000 I've got a constitutional amendment proposed.

01:58:36.000 It would be great.

01:58:36.000 And look, Ohio would pick up probably two seats out of that.

01:58:39.000 Who knows what every other state, but we know California and some of the border states would lose representation.

01:58:44.000 It not only is electoral representation stolen, but I just want to make one point really quick here.

01:58:48.000 The two things conservatives say is they steal our votes and they take welfare.

01:58:51.000 And the left goes, well, actually, because they're not citizens, they can't do either.

01:58:55.000 Ben Shapiro doesn't say that.

01:58:57.000 Well, all right.

01:58:57.000 That was my left impression, but you're right.

01:58:58.000 It did sound more like Ben Shapiro.

01:59:00.000 But my point is simply to say that not only, like you said, does representation become lopsided because they're counted and they get extra electoral votes or more representation in government.

01:59:11.000 When their family members are on welfare, they'll end up taking welfare from them.

01:59:15.000 So they're still pulling out of the system.

01:59:17.000 And there was an article written by a left-wing outlet a few years ago after Trump got elected that said, these poor undocumented citizens are too afraid to get welfare now that Trump's been elected.

01:59:25.000 It's like, oh, interesting.

01:59:26.000 I thought that wasn't happening.

01:59:28.000 Alright.

01:59:29.000 Chaser says, Tim, the coffee shop must sell Joey's bag of donuts.

01:59:34.000 Yes!

01:59:34.000 I don't know if we can actually sell donuts like that, but maybe we'll make a coffee that's like, you know, Joey's bag of donuts or whatever.

01:59:41.000 We are planning on, uh, we've got a few things launching.

01:59:44.000 K-Cups are coming in the next couple of weeks.

01:59:46.000 They've got to manufacture them, but we've got all the different varieties.

01:59:50.000 We've got a few different blends that are, uh, blends and roasts that are coming.

01:59:54.000 We've got Mr. Boca's Pumpkin Spice Experience.

01:59:56.000 But then we're also going to be adding, um, Protein powders and other things like that to the casper

02:00:02.000 marketplace. So we're really really excited for all this stuff

02:00:04.000 I'm really excited for our mct protein mix for working out and we're working with a

02:00:09.000 Specialists on the proper formulation for exercise and all that stuff

02:00:14.000 So we'll get to that point we get to that point, but i'm really excited to be able to launch that

02:00:16.000 That's actually a lot easier to launch surprisingly because when it comes to like making protein powders and

02:00:22.000 supplements I'm not gonna do any vitamins or brain blast or any of that

02:00:25.000 stuff It's going to be like protein for exercising and MCT for energy when you're exercising.

02:00:29.000 But they make that stuff and then we formulate how we want it.

02:00:34.000 So we want a certain mix of MCT and protein so you're getting fat and you're getting protein.

02:00:38.000 And then we work with a specialist to make it.

02:00:40.000 But they have huge batches ready to go to formulate and mix so they can make it a lot faster with coffee.

02:00:45.000 It's like we have to roast it and make sure it's fresh and ready and all that stuff.

02:00:48.000 Much different, much different.

02:00:50.000 But man, I'm torn between the Appalachian Knights and the Bocas. 1.00

02:00:54.000 I'm sorry, the Roberto Jr.

02:00:56.000 I gotta try a Roberto Jr.

02:00:58.000 rise with Roberto again.

02:00:59.000 Do we have any in the house?

02:00:59.000 It's so good.

02:01:01.000 No, we need to get more.

02:01:02.000 Yeah.

02:01:02.000 Yeah, it goes so quickly.

02:01:04.000 But I'm really excited.

02:01:04.000 It's sold out.

02:01:05.000 We're gonna get a whole bunch of K-Cups here, so we'll have all those ready to go.

02:01:08.000 Sweet.

02:01:09.000 And then the first order I think we're doing is not biodegradable, but we're talking about them because we told them we wanted biodegradable or nothing.

02:01:15.000 And they said, well, then nothing it is.

02:01:17.000 And we were like, what can we do?

02:01:18.000 And they said, do a run with non-biodegradable.

02:01:20.000 And then once we get up and running with manufacturing biodegradable, it'll switch over.

02:01:24.000 Cool.

02:01:25.000 Yeah.

02:01:26.000 The thing is, though, to be honest, the biodegradable ones, they're better for the planet.

02:01:30.000 They don't last as long.

02:01:31.000 No.

02:01:32.000 Because they're not sealed the same way that the other K-Cups are.

02:01:36.000 Yeah.

02:01:36.000 So they're exposed to air.

02:01:38.000 Yep.

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02:03:00.000 And I feel like we barely got down.

02:03:01.000 We just started, but I really appreciate the... We still have the members only.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, the intelligence, so we'll go deeper and maybe we can do this again sometime.

02:03:08.000 Yeah, I love hanging out with you guys.

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02:03:19.000 I'm using your name, Barney, specifically to tell you the show is not pre-recorded.

02:03:22.000 Yeah, it was a good one.

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02:03:26.000 And I'll be in the chat today, so see you later.

02:03:29.000 So how would we read super chats if the show was pre-recorded?

02:03:31.000 I have no idea, but this guy was saying it and it annoys me because we work so hard to make it live, so come on, bro.

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