Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Hamas Post Video Of Israeli Child Hostages, Leftists CHEER For Attack w-Dinesh D'Souza

00:00:00.000 Peace.

00:00:18.000 Now, reportedly in the video they say they don't kill kids, but that's not really the point.

00:00:21.000 The point is, they're basically sending a warning to Israel, they're making a statement that if they're targeted, there are children of their victims, children being victims as well, with them, and it is absolutely horrifying.

00:00:34.000 A new report from Reuters says that, uh, essentially, the U.S.

00:00:38.000 must be prepared for World War III.

00:00:41.000 I'm not, I'm, I kid you not.

00:00:42.000 They're talking about a security analysis, but we'll, we'll, we'll talk about that.

00:00:45.000 Plus, we have scenes from all the protests that have occurred today.

00:00:49.000 Nothing, uh, um...

00:00:51.000 I would say grand scale absolutely crazy happening today.

00:00:53.000 Of course, everyone's kind of relieved.

00:00:55.000 But there were some incidents that had it happen.

00:00:58.000 Some disturbing videos, which we'll get into all of that.

00:01:02.000 But we're gonna be talking about what's the current state of what's happening with obviously protests in the U.S., leftist support for BLM and Palestine.

00:01:12.000 We have The View claiming Hamas is like the Proud Boys, despite the fact that Black Lives Matter is overtly supporting them. 0.89

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00:02:45.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Dinesh D'Souza.

00:02:49.000 Thanks.

00:02:50.000 Really fun to be here, guys.

00:02:51.000 This is my first time, you know, in the pit here, and I'm looking forward to our conversation.

00:02:57.000 Who are you?

00:02:58.000 What do you do?

00:02:59.000 Well, I'm a writer, I'm a speaker, I make films, documentary films.

00:03:04.000 I'm now done, well, I'm coming out with number seven, which is called Police State, and it's in theaters October 23rd and 25th.

00:03:13.000 And there's a virtual premiere, watching from home, on October 27th.

00:03:16.000 So that website is PoliceStateFilm.net and actually talks about a lot of very bad things that have been happening in the United States in the last few years very quickly, one by one, our basic freedoms put into jeopardy.

00:03:30.000 Right on.

00:03:30.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:03:31.000 Should be fun.

00:03:31.000 We got Carter Banks hanging out.

00:03:33.000 What's up, everyone?

00:03:34.000 Pleasure to be here.

00:03:35.000 Big fan of yours, Dinesh.

00:03:38.000 Like I was saying earlier, you're partly responsible for my dark red pilling, so it's gonna be awesome having you on.

00:03:44.000 Yeah, what does D'Souza mean?

00:03:46.000 D'Souza is a Portuguese name, and the Portuguese came to India, this was going back to the 16th century, and they converted a bunch of Indians to Christianity.

00:03:58.000 And the Indians who converted, originally Hindu, took Christian names.

00:04:02.000 So, one of my ancestors was obviously converted by, probably by a missionary named D'Souza, and so we became D'Souza.

00:04:10.000 Wow.

00:04:11.000 That's awesome.

00:04:11.000 Fascinating.

00:04:12.000 Good to see you, man.

00:04:12.000 Yeah.

00:04:13.000 Hello, everyone.

00:04:14.000 Let's go.

00:04:15.000 Let's talk.

00:04:15.000 There's so much I want to talk about tonight, so let's get the group involved.

00:04:17.000 There is a lot to go over.

00:04:19.000 I'm Serge.com.

00:04:20.000 Ready when you are, Tim.

00:04:21.000 Here's a story from the Daily Mail.

00:04:23.000 Sickening footage released by Hamas shows terrorists holding Israeli toddlers and children during Saturday's massacre, which shocked the world.

00:04:31.000 Sickening footage released by Hamas today allegedly shows a terrorist holding Israeli toddlers.

00:04:35.000 The video shows Hamas members holding the youngsters as they sit around a table.

00:04:38.000 One is seen rocking a prom as an infant cries.

00:04:42.000 Others are carrying the distressed children, rocking them and patting their backs.

00:04:47.000 The footage was recorded during as Hamas gunmen carried out their mass infiltration of Israel last Saturday, according to Israeli newspaper the Jerusalem Post.

00:04:56.000 The attack saw Hamas, prescribed as a terrorist organization by the EU and the US, burst through the heavily militarized border around the Gaza Strip, as we all know, took an estimated 150 Israeli foreign and dual nationals, national hostages, back to Gaza during its initial attack.

00:05:10.000 Hamas said on Friday that 13 of them had been killed in Israeli airstrikes.

00:05:14.000 It has previously said four hostages died in the bombardments.

00:05:17.000 So you can see here they have images of them taking the children.

00:05:20.000 Now I suppose the claim they're trying to make Is that they didn't kill the kids?

00:05:25.000 There's also videos where Hamas fighters are indiscriminately firing into porta-potties.

00:05:31.000 So this is all propaganda from a group that is out of control.

00:05:37.000 Sadistic, targeting civilians.

00:05:40.000 If one Hamas guy or Palestinian activist comes out and says that they believe in peace, it doesn't matter.

00:05:45.000 Because, clearly, there is no unified message as to what they're doing.

00:05:47.000 They're going and indiscriminately just killing and capturing civilians.

00:05:51.000 And we know they use them as bargaining chips.

00:05:52.000 So, here we are again, in this circumstance. 0.98

00:05:55.000 And the craziest thing is, right now on the left, the only thing they're saying is, Israel's killing babies.

00:06:02.000 This is, it is, this is the nightmare scenario of war.

00:06:06.000 But, I gotta be completely honest, they will make, the left makes the argument that Israel started it when, quite literally, Hamas broke the barriers down and went and started targeting civilians.

00:06:17.000 So, you know, you wanna take this back thousands of years, fine, so be it, but Hamas is targeting civilians and children.

00:06:24.000 Israel targeting militarized sites or whatever is not the same thing, though we are all distressed when civilians die.

00:06:30.000 That's, that's a no-brainer.

00:06:33.000 What the defenders of Hamas in this country and the West are doing is they're trying to dispute a wholesale truth by making sort of retail objections and what I mean by that is they'll say this particular image is distorted or this is not a valid video as if to say, and maybe they're right because we're in an age where there's so much fog of war, there's so much confusion about whether this video was digitally altered, sometimes difficult for you or I to know, But the implication is that if the video is invalid, kids are not being threatened by Hamas.

00:07:09.000 And I think we shouldn't lose sight of that bigger truth.

00:07:12.000 Sort of like that picture of the burned baby that Ben Shapiro posted yesterday, and then the AI machine said, hey, it's actually fake, and it's like, yo, maybe it's real, maybe it's fake, it doesn't matter.

00:07:21.000 It is real apparently now, but who knows if that's even true, but ultimately it doesn't matter, because they did kill babies, and very likely burned them alive, I don't know.

00:07:30.000 It doesn't matter if that picture is real or fake.

00:07:33.000 These videos of Hamas storming these houses, and then you can see one guy lighting a house on fire, they're not checking the bedrooms to make sure innocent people aren't dying, they're opening fire on closed porta-potties, With people in them, they don't care. 0.95

00:07:46.000 And I should say, it's very, very self-righteous of me to say that they are.

00:07:49.000 It seems as if they are.

00:07:51.000 From reports that I've read, that they were indiscriminately murdering old women, people.

00:07:55.000 Bro, there's videos.

00:07:56.000 Like, look.

00:07:57.000 I just watched a video where they're walking through the music festival, and there's a row of porta-potties, and it's go pop, pop, pop.

00:08:02.000 Like, come on, man.

00:08:03.000 There could be kids in there, there could be women. 1.00

00:08:05.000 When we see them, in one video, waiting at the gate of a kibbutz, And then a car pulls up, they wait for the gate to open, run up and execute the people inside the car. 0.88

00:08:13.000 They're not checking to see if that's an elderly woman or not, they're just opening fire on the car and then running in.

00:08:18.000 They're not checking to see if there's people in the room.

00:08:19.000 They walk into the house and then start setting things on fire.

00:08:22.000 So when we see photos that are being published that don't show the bodies, they show blood and they show gore and stuff like that, I really don't think That the Israel government is manufacturing scenes when we can see the videos, and we know that even journalists of a more pro-Palestine bent are saying, yeah, they target civilians, it's one of their tactics.

00:08:44.000 There's videos of them holding children!

00:08:46.000 My guess is that civilians are making fake content, governments are making fake content on all sides, but that also there's lots of real content as well, and it's terrifying me.

00:08:55.000 I was saying earlier, I want to go look at the most gruesome stuff.

00:08:58.000 Where is it?

00:08:58.000 I want to see it.

00:08:59.000 And then as I was thinking about it, I was like, I don't, I don't want to get tricked into seeing gruesome stuff from two years ago or things that like fake gruesome stuff that makes me crazy.

00:09:08.000 So I don't even know if I want to look at any of it now.

00:09:10.000 So I don't want to not know what's going on.

00:09:12.000 So the big controversy the other day, which everybody gets mad about, you've got the very pro-Israeli side, anger that anyone would dare question the authenticity of this photo posted by Israel.

00:09:24.000 You've got people on the left arguing that it's not real, and if you're saying it is, oh no, you're posting fake nonsense.

00:09:29.000 I don't care about that.

00:09:29.000 I care about actually investigating the story and figuring out who's lying.

00:09:32.000 Now.

00:09:33.000 What had happened was, I did an AI or not analysis on the photo that was posted by the Israeli Prime Minister, and Ben Shapiro had posted the same image, and it said it was AI.

00:09:42.000 I then put an AI-generated image in, it said it was AI.

00:09:44.000 I then put in a graphic designed by humans, it said it was made by humans.

00:09:48.000 I then put in a photograph of John Fetterman that we got from a news story we used for a thumbnail, and it said it was a human-generated photo.

00:09:54.000 So it was accurate.

00:09:56.000 I don't know if the photo of the baby in this regard I should say definitively right now, it was inaccurate as it pertained to the charred remains of that baby.

00:10:07.000 There has been a much deeper analysis where they actually posted the forensic analysis of the image and the other manipulations that were made to it.

00:10:14.000 It appears to be, beyond a reasonable doubt, the photo is real.

00:10:19.000 It is a real photo of a real doctor showing the remains and it's kind of horrifying that this is what happens.

00:10:25.000 First, it's horrifying that people are like, I demand to see the photo to prove it.

00:10:29.000 And that's, that's sad, and that's horrifying.

00:10:32.000 At first they're like, look, for privacy reasons, we don't want to show these things, but people demand the proof.

00:10:37.000 So it gets posted, and then what happens is propagandists and people trying to, to...

00:10:43.000 I guess when an information war, then claim it's all fake.

00:10:47.000 And then finally we get a bunch of different AI forensic analysis.

00:10:51.000 One of the things they did was, there's some tools where it shows you like pixel patterns and like things like that, that you can't see with your own eyes.

00:10:59.000 Right.

00:11:00.000 But when you run it through several filters, you can clearly see lines where AI is generated.

00:11:04.000 The original image doesn't appear to be fake.

00:11:06.000 And then there are faked versions of it that are clearly fake.

00:11:09.000 So I would just say at this point, Who knows?

00:11:13.000 I believe, to the best of our abilities, it's a legit photo and this stuff's horrifying.

00:11:17.000 But again, I don't think we need it at this point when there's videos of Hamas laughing, holding the kids. 0.67

00:11:22.000 They're clearly targeting them.

00:11:23.000 The terrorist MO has not changed.

00:11:25.000 If you go back to the 70s when you had the IRA and you had the incident at Entebbe and so on, the idea of taking hostages The idea of exploiting the other side's reverence for human life.

00:11:41.000 I mean, think about it.

00:11:42.000 They know that the Israelis care about human life.

00:11:44.000 If the Israelis really didn't care, the hostages would be meaningless. 0.91

00:11:47.000 The reason that they grab your kid as a hostage is they know that you're gonna go, okay, you know, I'm gonna... So it reminds me a little bit of how in this country, you know, they use the accusation of racism.

00:11:58.000 I'm not... Think of this just by way of analogy.

00:12:00.000 When somebody comes to you and says, you're a racist, Their hidden assumption is that you're not a racist.

00:12:06.000 Because if you were really a racist, you'd be like, thank you very much!

00:12:09.000 This is awesome!

00:12:10.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:11.000 It's like someone coming to me going, Dinesh, you're Indian! 0.98

00:12:13.000 I'd be like, yeah, sure.

00:12:15.000 But they want you to go, no, I'm not.

00:12:17.000 So the fact that you go, no, I'm not, is you don't believe you are, and you don't want to think of yourself as a racist, so the charge of racism only works on anti-racists.

00:12:27.000 Not anti-racist, though.

00:12:28.000 They've copied that phrase.

00:12:29.000 Anti-racist to them, actually.

00:12:30.000 It works on people who are not racist.

00:12:32.000 Exactly.

00:12:33.000 Yeah, because it hits them where it hurts.

00:12:36.000 If someone was genuinely racist and proud of it, it would not hurt at all.

00:12:39.000 They would take it as a compliment.

00:12:41.000 This is a very clever game they play.

00:12:43.000 They took the phrase anti-racist because people assume it means you oppose racism.

00:12:47.000 It doesn't.

00:12:48.000 Anti-racist means you're quite literally racist, but in a different way.

00:12:54.000 That's a good point, Dave.

00:12:55.000 That's right.

00:12:56.000 This appropriation of vocabulary, and the left is really good at this.

00:13:00.000 I mean, the resistance, you know, even the language of decolonization.

00:13:05.000 I mean, decolonization is a good idea, right? 1.00

00:13:07.000 I mean, I'm from India.

00:13:08.000 India was a colony of the British, if you say decolonization.

00:13:12.000 But over the years, the Indians have sort of reassessed, because they've now realized, yeah, there were some bad things from the British, but guess what?

00:13:20.000 You know, we still wear suits, we still have British laws, we still have parliamentary systems of government, we got a lot of things from the British.

00:13:29.000 But nevertheless, this trope of anti-colonialism is driving this whole narrative.

00:13:33.000 That's what makes the Palestinians into heroes and the Israelis into villains. 1.00

00:13:37.000 How bloody was the Indian revolution, if it was even considered a revolution, against the British when they seized control?

00:13:43.000 It was one of the unbloodiest revolutions of all because Gandhi recognized that the Indians were, they outnumbered, the British were ruling India with a very small contingent of people.

00:13:55.000 And so Gandhi realized, listen, all we need to do is sort of paralyze the country with non-violent demonstrations, and it'll be too difficult for the British to kind of manage this Indian elephant. 0.90

00:14:07.000 And so the British sort of essentially let it go.

00:14:11.000 But again, the only reason the Indians could pull that off is because the British were not Hitler.

00:14:17.000 I mean, if the British were Hitler, Gandhi would be, you know, a lampshade. 0.63

00:14:21.000 God, literally.

00:14:25.000 But the Indians could count on the fact that they could go light on the tracks, the railway tracks, and all the British trains would go eeeerrrr, they'd grind to a halt, because again, the British are not willing to run over Indian kids. 0.89

00:14:36.000 And so that ultimate, the British, their own morality was the undoing of the empire. 0.94

00:14:41.000 And I think we're seeing, in the United States, elements of the liberals and the left that are anti-America and hate this country.

00:14:50.000 There's a video right now going around of someone on, I think it's on Fox, I'm not sure, where they're asking a person at one of these protests in New York supporting Hamas, saying, you know, do you believe America should take care of itself first?

00:15:00.000 I'm like, absolutely not.

00:15:02.000 And it's like, okay, well, when you have a large faction of Americans, maybe half the country, who are like, America last!

00:15:07.000 Okay, well, you've got problems with pipes in Flint or Newark or whatever, insert country, but you want to send our money overseas first?

00:15:15.000 This country will not survive that.

00:15:18.000 You're giving away your money to your neighbors before paying your rent.

00:15:22.000 Eventually you get evicted.

00:15:24.000 Sooner or later.

00:15:25.000 I mean, one of the things I found, and going back to my just experience growing up, was that India had these wars with Pakistan.

00:15:34.000 And I noticed that while those wars were going on, every Indian was on the Indian side.

00:15:39.000 For the exact same reason that every Indian backs the Indian side in the cricket match.

00:15:44.000 You know, nationalism, India first, is taken for granted.

00:15:48.000 Nobody even debates it.

00:15:49.000 It's not like you have to discuss, is it a good idea to be India first? 1.00

00:15:52.000 I mean, no Indian would even know what that means. 0.99

00:15:55.000 And yet, when I came to the United States, suddenly I realized, and this is in some way a legacy of the Vietnam War, suddenly I realized a lot of Americans actually are not on the American side.

00:16:03.000 They actually want the Vietnamese to win. 0.99

00:16:06.000 They are America at last, and they see America as a villainous force in the world, even though America's been a very benign force in the world.

00:16:15.000 Any other country that had this kind of power that the U.S.

00:16:17.000 has had since World War II would have used it far more tyrannically. 0.51

00:16:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:22.000 It's almost like a tell when someone says that the U.S.

00:16:24.000 is like the most racist country in the world.

00:16:25.000 I hear that all the time, like, you have not traveled anywhere.

00:16:28.000 Quite literally, like, the least racist country.

00:16:29.000 Literally, literally.

00:16:30.000 Like, even, I bring this up when I went to Sweden.

00:16:33.000 They try to claim they're very progressive, but they're super racist. 0.54

00:16:36.000 They're like, we scuttle all the poor people into these ghettos and then tell everyone how awesome we are, but then we only hire white natives. 1.00

00:16:42.000 And in the United States, you've got white liberals without group preference.

00:16:46.000 And there was a story that came out that found, I think over the past several years, something like 90 plus percent of mid to high level jobs were all given to non-white individuals because of the DEI push.

00:16:58.000 So it's like, that's clearly racist and in violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:17:02.000 But here we are.

00:17:04.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:17:06.000 I hope y'all are ready.

00:17:08.000 It may have been the Global Day of Jihad, Friday the 13th, but we have this from Reuters.

00:17:12.000 U.S.

00:17:13.000 must be ready for simultaneous wars with China and Russia, report says.

00:17:19.000 The U.S.

00:17:19.000 must prepare for possible wars with Russia and China by expanding its conventional forces, strengthening alliances, and enhancing its nuclear weapon modernization program, a congressionally appointed bipartisan panel said on Thursday.

00:17:30.000 The report from the Strategic Posture Commission comes amid tensions with China over Taiwan and other issues and worsening frictions with Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

00:17:38.000 Another thing that many people have brought up to us that came up yesterday was something called the Samson Option.

00:17:44.000 Considering the conflict with what's going on with Israel, I think it's particularly relevant to this story.

00:17:48.000 For those who aren't familiar, the Samson Option is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to Israel's deterrent strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a last resort against a country whose military has invaded and or destroyed much of Israel.

00:18:03.000 Commentators also have employed the term to refer to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors have threatened conventional weapons retaliation such as Yasser Arafat.

00:18:10.000 Now what's interesting about that concept of the Samson Option, the general idea being, if, so we have this convoy of Hamas storming in, killing civilians, Israel then starts targeting Hamas bases and weapons depots and things like this, civilians get caught in the crossfire, they die.

00:18:27.000 We then get fake videos, there was a fake video today apparently of Qatar saying that they were going to cut off gas supply, not real, it's been debunked, my understanding.

00:18:34.000 But you have threats from Iran, you have Lindsey Graham saying war with Iran.

00:18:38.000 If there is an invasion of Israel, the fear is that they're just going to say, we refuse to be destroyed and they'll fire a nuke at their enemy.

00:18:46.000 But I think the reality is any country with a nuclear weapon that is invaded and is facing extinction or non-existence is going to launch a nuclear weapon.

00:18:54.000 So the fear here is Israel being particularly vulnerable.

00:18:58.000 If they launch a nuke, then what happens?

00:19:00.000 I mean, it's going to be all out World War III, massive nuclear warfare.

00:19:04.000 Yeah.

00:19:05.000 I mean, when I think about it, the Samson option was essentially the core of what in the Cold War we called Mutually Assured Destruction. 0.95

00:19:15.000 Because Mutually Assured Destruction is the United States has 10,000 nuclear warheads and the Soviet Union has 10,000 nuclear warheads.

00:19:22.000 And the reason you have peace is each side makes a public declaration that if the other side launches nukes, You will do the same and cause, essentially, the extinction of mankind.

00:19:34.000 And it's that mutual fear, oddly enough, that keeps both parties reasonably well behaved.

00:19:40.000 Now we're in a post-Cold War era, of course, but I don't see why that logic disappears.

00:19:46.000 It remains actually identical, except now it has to be applied You know, more regionally or more locally.

00:19:52.000 But why would a country allow its own extinction without wanting to visit exactly the same on the people who perpetrated that?

00:19:59.000 I mean, this is a case where, I mean, I suppose there's a certain, at a certain theoretical level, you could go, well, listen, they've already launched these nukes.

00:20:06.000 I'm going to die anyway.

00:20:07.000 Why should I kill more people? 0.99

00:20:08.000 I just need to sit tight and let myself be blown up. 0.99

00:20:12.000 But that's not realistic.

00:20:13.000 No one really thinks like that.

00:20:14.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:20:16.000 I've never been through nuclear war, but it's not just like the nuke hits, and then that's the end.

00:20:20.000 Like, a nuke will set up the stage for an invasion.

00:20:22.000 Like, you can level the ground, level all the defensive capabilities, and then invade the city that got nuked, like, two days later or something, or a day later.

00:20:29.000 Well, also, there's fallout.

00:20:31.000 There's all sorts of things that happen afterwards that Also suck if you don't die immediately. 0.55

00:20:36.000 It's almost worse.

00:20:38.000 Radiation and... Yeah, 48 hours of fallout or something.

00:20:41.000 The Chinese, are they actually genetically altering their soldiers to be radiation resistant? 0.90

00:20:45.000 We talked about that.

00:20:46.000 There was a report that they've started breeding genetic super soldiers.

00:20:50.000 I mean, that's a scary reality of what's to come.

00:20:53.000 And so I suppose the concern is not even nuclear weapons.

00:20:55.000 I think that's...

00:20:57.000 Old school thinking.

00:20:58.000 Honestly, it is actually crazy to me that most people to this day are like, nuclear weapons.

00:21:04.000 I'm like, bro, that's a hundred years old, basically.

00:21:06.000 Like, they started developing this stuff a hundred years ago.

00:21:08.000 Deployed a couple, by today's standards, weak ones.

00:21:11.000 That's kind of scary to think too.

00:21:12.000 And then, really, I mean, what?

00:21:14.000 Since the seventies, we've had ICBMs and MIRVs and things like this.

00:21:18.000 The US, 10 years ago, funded a very, very small megaton gravity bomb.

00:21:25.000 Basically, pocket-sized version of the Fat Man.

00:21:28.000 And we also have these ICBMs, we have hypersonics.

00:21:31.000 But I think people need to understand that a lot of the research has been in targeted biological weapons.

00:21:36.000 And the real scary thought is, not that Israel says, we're gonna fire a nuke, but that they're like, we're going to unleash a virus, or something like that.

00:21:44.000 Or like an insect plague.

00:21:45.000 I think that people have been using insects also.

00:21:47.000 I mean, let's think about this realistically.

00:21:51.000 You've got ethnic conflict in the Middle East, right?

00:21:54.000 These are groups that hate each other based on their ethnic heritage.

00:21:59.000 Wouldn't they be specifically trying to target... If you've got groups of people saying that they want to eradicate Israel, would they not make weapons specifically to do so?

00:22:09.000 If they had the capabilities, they probably would.

00:22:11.000 I do believe that it's more about territory and less about genetics at the core.

00:22:17.000 I think it's about who owns that area of the world.

00:22:19.000 Well, right, right.

00:22:20.000 But what I'm saying is the majority of the people in Israel are Jewish, and many of these people in, say, Iran or in Gaza, Lebanon, explicitly say the Jewish people.

00:22:31.000 And so it's not even about that.

00:22:32.000 I mean, isn't there, on all sides, when it comes to any kind of war, if the U.S.

00:22:36.000 is facing war with Russia, there is an incentive.

00:22:40.000 This is war, man.

00:22:41.000 I mean, you look at what, what was that Japanese unit in World War II?

00:22:45.000 731, I think.

00:22:46.000 Yeah.

00:22:46.000 731.

00:22:46.000 731?

00:22:47.000 They stuck people's arms into sub-zero temperatures.

00:22:49.000 They're in a room and they put their arm into a vat or whatever with sub-zero temperatures, and then pull it out and shatter it with a hammer to see what would happen.

00:22:55.000 Yeah.

00:22:56.000 Then, after the war, the U.S.

00:22:57.000 is like, we need those guys over here.

00:22:59.000 Well, it's like the depravity of this stuff.

00:23:01.000 Because they were sending like plague fleas and hot air balloons over here. 1.00

00:23:05.000 I think one actually landed.

00:23:06.000 Well, they were doing those bombs.

00:23:08.000 They had the hot air balloons.

00:23:08.000 Yeah.

00:23:10.000 We talked about it.

00:23:10.000 What are they called?

00:23:12.000 Yeah, we did.

00:23:13.000 They would float in the jet stream.

00:23:15.000 And then once they would start sinking, once they got too low, then a bag would drop and it would go back up.

00:23:20.000 Crazy!

00:23:21.000 And then it would end up dropping bombs. 0.95

00:23:23.000 I mean, we just get a small insight into how nuts these people are just when we think about gain-of-function research.

00:23:30.000 I mean, just think of something so explosive as to take highly contagious viruses and start screwing with them to make them more lethal to, quote, study them.

00:23:41.000 And this is going on in laboratories all over the world.

00:23:44.000 And the probability of these viruses getting out when you add up all the laboratories and all the procedures is actually pretty high.

00:23:52.000 So it ends up that you create a worse plague than you started, or that you started out to try to diffuse.

00:23:58.000 And all of this is, this is all in peacetime.

00:24:01.000 And now you put in war and the aggression and the competitiveness of war and the massive resources devoted to the military, which is much bigger than the resources available to the NIH.

00:24:13.000 And you can only imagine what scary stuff is going on there.

00:24:16.000 Yeah, and honestly, it's beyond just biological weapons or directed energy weapons.

00:24:22.000 When the U.S., during the Manhattan Project, nobody knew what they were doing.

00:24:26.000 There were speculations that the U.S.

00:24:28.000 was working on some kind of technology, and some of the speculation was a laser beam, a death ray.

00:24:35.000 And some people, I believe, did speculate that there was going to be a nuclear bomb.

00:24:39.000 I think it was because The initial publications of nuclear reactions, quantum mechanics, and things like that was like 20 some odd years earlier.

00:24:47.000 So the U.S.

00:24:47.000 started working on this and theoretically saying, like, can we make this explode?

00:24:51.000 Can we blow it up big?

00:24:53.000 And so people were trying to figure out what it was.

00:24:55.000 Right now, but no one knew.

00:24:56.000 That's my point.

00:24:57.000 Right now, the weapons the U.S.

00:24:58.000 has are probably beyond our comprehension.

00:25:01.000 Right?

00:25:02.000 I shouldn't say beyond our comprehension.

00:25:03.000 I mean, like, we'd be like, oh, wow, they did what?

00:25:05.000 It's just that If they, I'll put it this way, I bet they could come out and be like, yes, the large, you know, international, multinational, military industrial complex corporations have a weapon that is based on, you know, X. You'd be like, wow, I never thought of that.

00:25:19.000 You might, I might say that there are the weapons that are being used now are beyond our perception.

00:25:24.000 That might be, that might be an interesting way to look at it because like lasers, you don't see them.

00:25:28.000 They're just heat, it's just heat that you can't see.

00:25:29.000 What I mean is like, we're not even thinking of what they've already developed, so we're We're talking about, like, biological weapons, and they're like, that was 20 years ago.

00:25:36.000 Molecular disassembly through vibration.

00:25:38.000 I mean, some people's skin just fall off just by hitting them with a low frequency, stuff like that.

00:25:43.000 Or just, like, renders you not able to think at all.

00:25:45.000 Well, look at the, was it the Havana Syndrome?

00:25:48.000 Yeah, Havana Syndrome.

00:25:49.000 They thought that was a weapon.

00:25:50.000 I guess they're saying it's not now.

00:25:52.000 But people would hear, like, a loud hum, and then they would lose, they would start losing vision in one eye and getting headaches, and they couldn't think straight.

00:25:58.000 I mean, interestingly, with every major war, the magnitude, the scale, the horrific nature of it was completely unanticipated before the war.

00:26:09.000 I mean, World War I, nobody had any idea that it would last as long, that trench warfare, you'd have people who are basically fighting for two and a half years for like 50 yards of land.

00:26:20.000 And you're sitting in a trench, knee-deep in water, you sleep there.

00:26:24.000 People are being shot up and their bodies then just dissolve right next to you.

00:26:28.000 And so just the sheer horror of it and, you know, the thing about it is we haven't had that kind of a war now in all of our lifetimes because we have to go back to World War II for a comprehensive war.

00:26:38.000 So it makes people, in a sense, Lose sight of what war actually means.

00:26:44.000 The first one, first world war, was the machine gun.

00:26:47.000 No one anticipated the machine gun.

00:26:48.000 So they'd get up with their rifles and run towards what was assumedly dudes with rifles, as they had done for thousands, hundreds of years.

00:26:55.000 And then the machine gun changed that.

00:26:56.000 And then World War II, the air power, like the force of an air bomber changes everything.

00:27:01.000 And now what do we have?

00:27:02.000 We have space lasers.

00:27:03.000 Who knows what we got?

00:27:03.000 This is the story.

00:27:04.000 Well, yeah, China does have space lasers.

00:27:06.000 Not to say they're weaponized, but we know for a fact that story.

00:27:09.000 You could drop stuff from orbit readily.

00:27:10.000 It's just getting it up there.

00:27:11.000 Getting it up there, right.

00:27:12.000 But what you're describing, Ian, is the story of basically every war, right?

00:27:16.000 So we've talked about Gettysburg.

00:27:18.000 The Confederates were using muzzle-loaded rifled muskets, and the Union had adopted breech-loading rifles with cartridges.

00:27:27.000 So the union is firing every 10 seconds and the confederates are firing every 30 seconds to a minute.

00:27:34.000 Napoleon... No question.

00:27:35.000 I don't know if Napoleon had new tech other than like if the Dutch tech that the Dutch didn't have or tech that the Austrians didn't have or whatever but he had he invented the core system the core you know the the core military core where he'd Divide command amongst his generals and give all of his marshals, basically they were called, total authority amongst themselves.

00:27:55.000 And so they were able to move much more rapidly and respond to battlefield activity much more fluently.

00:28:01.000 Right.

00:28:02.000 Absolutely.

00:28:03.000 I mean, there's a very interesting study of Western civilization which tries to understand how the West became the dominant world power, which it has been over the past five hundred years.

00:28:13.000 And the argument was that the Western countries were always fighting.

00:28:16.000 And as a result, each side had to keep innovating in terms of warfare to get the edge over the

00:28:22.000 other guy.

00:28:23.000 Whereas you think of other, take American Indian societies, for example.

00:28:26.000 Now, there was tribal warfare and so on, but it was conducted kind of the same way.

00:28:30.000 Whereas what was happening in the West is one guy, you know, you start off and everybody

00:28:34.000 has a normal cavalry.

00:28:35.000 Then one guy starts inventing a crossbow and the other guy has to develop a shield and

00:28:40.000 then the knights start putting on armor.

00:28:42.000 And so there's constant innovation that shows why the power in the West keeps moving.

00:28:47.000 I mean, it belongs to the Portuguese.

00:28:48.000 In fact, that's how the Portuguese got to India.

00:28:50.000 They were the leading power in the West at one time.

00:28:52.000 Then the Spanish, then the French, then the English.

00:28:56.000 Hitler's actually basic point was he was kind of envious of the fact that the British and the French had sort of dominated the world in the previous hundred years.

00:29:04.000 He's like, what about the Germans?

00:29:06.000 So a lot of Hitler's aggression was motivated by that.

00:29:09.000 He actually admired the British Empire.

00:29:11.000 He wanted to create one.

00:29:13.000 Well, with Europe, you have a peninsula.

00:29:15.000 And with expanding population density, the Mediterranean is warm weather, so there was More abundant food.

00:29:24.000 It was easier to grow food.

00:29:25.000 You end up with people with more free time.

00:29:27.000 Then you get population density with close proximity and conflict over resources once winter starts rolling in.

00:29:34.000 So you have all this fighting.

00:29:36.000 Because exactly as you described, you get innovation.

00:29:39.000 There was one story I read where, I can't remember what battle it was, but one side made their arrows with very tiny notches, so that when they fired the arrow towards the enemy, the enemy could not put the nock, or whatever it's called, the notch, or whatever it's called, into the string, and they couldn't fire it back.

00:29:56.000 But theirs, with the larger hole, they could pick up, so they could use both arrows, but one side, like that kind of innovation.

00:30:02.000 Now here's the thing about North America.

00:30:05.000 Sparsely populated.

00:30:06.000 When Native Americans would fight, it would be brutal, but they could also flee.

00:30:10.000 So we see this in natural selection as well.

00:30:12.000 It's why birds are less likely to be aggressive, because they can just leave.

00:30:18.000 Flight, in the sense of avoiding a fight, not in the literal sense, avoiding a fight takes less energy than engaging in a fight.

00:30:26.000 So, burrowing animals tend to be more vicious, and flying animals tend to be less vicious.

00:30:32.000 For that reason.

00:30:33.000 It's not absolute, right?

00:30:35.000 Rabbits are not particularly vicious.

00:30:36.000 You back them in a corner, they might nip at you, but their strategy was just to have lots of themselves.

00:30:41.000 Which is kind of funny.

00:30:42.000 Or their evolutionary pressure.

00:30:43.000 And they didn't have armor.

00:30:44.000 The Native Americans, as far as I know, I don't think that they're- Oh, a little bit. 0.99

00:30:47.000 They didn't build castles.

00:30:48.000 They didn't build defensive bastions.

00:30:49.000 They didn't really, that I know of, build armor and things like protective, because it was always like attack and retreat, attack and flee, attack and run away.

00:30:57.000 It's such a massive landmass with tremendous farmland in the Great Plains that you didn't have to have such dramatic fighting over resources and effectively, you could leave.

00:31:10.000 If they were chased out and the land was taken by a warring tribe, they would run away.

00:31:14.000 And they didn't, I don't know, I assume that they didn't farm, not as readily as they did in Europe.

00:31:18.000 They were more hunter-gatherers.

00:31:20.000 Well, you had two types.

00:31:21.000 You had the sedentary farming tribes and the Hopi, the Pueblo, but of course they were always at the mercy of the Comanche and the Apache and the nomadic, more vicious, tomahawk-carrying tribes which would have their way with these other... I mean Columbus noticed this when he got here. 0.93

00:31:40.000 The first Indians that he ran into were really nice guys and Columbus went back to, you know, he went back to Spain and he's like, these people are like, they're like Adam and Eve, they're like living in the Garden of Eden.

00:31:51.000 The second time he came back he ran into a whole different crew and in fact a lot of the allegations against Columbus, oh Columbus turned vicious and so on, Well, the reason he turned vicious is he ran into tribes that were into mass slaughter and that opened his eyes.

00:32:07.000 This is the thing that the left ignores when they were like, the colonizers, the European colonists called the Native American savages.

00:32:15.000 And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:32:17.000 The French cooperated with many of the tribes in the Canadian territories, fur traders, they got along just fine.

00:32:23.000 The Aztecs, however, who were pulling people down on altars and ripping their body organs out, they were a bit shocked by that.

00:32:30.000 I mean, we're shocked about these hostages.

00:32:32.000 Now, think about Cortez in Mexico seeing this stuff.

00:32:36.000 I mean, you have rivers of blood.

00:32:38.000 Imagine the psychological impact on the Spanish. 0.98

00:32:41.000 And so, yeah, I think that is... I'm unsurprised the left takes the view that the Aztecs were doing something acceptable.

00:32:49.000 Because sacrificing children, like, literally just killing children, would, like, any one of us would be, watching that happen, would probably start crying.

00:32:58.000 And you imagine Cortez, the historical view from the left is that Cortez is on this boat, sailing to the Americas, going like, and he's got, like, devils behind him, like, when really he's a European guy.

00:33:12.000 He lands here, and yes, there's conquests involved, they're warriors, they're fighters, and then he comes upon children being mutilated, for no reason!

00:33:20.000 I wouldn't be surprised if he started bawling his eyes out, and then was like, we have to stop this.

00:33:26.000 Exactly.

00:33:26.000 No, that's right.

00:33:28.000 Also, you mentioned, interestingly, about evolution and natural selection, and that's an interesting framework for looking at human nature and warfare, because the premise of evolution is that self-protection and self-interest is the primary grounding of human behavior.

00:33:43.000 And I think even ethical systems, and Christianity is no different, you know, love thy neighbor like thyself, right?

00:33:49.000 Okay.

00:33:50.000 It's assumed that you love yourself.

00:33:52.000 If you didn't love yourself, then the whole thing makes no sense.

00:33:55.000 You have no compass for deciding how to love your neighbor.

00:33:57.000 Whereas liberalism is, as far as I know, the only ideology in existence that treats self-interest by itself as something bad and something to be guilty about and apologetic about.

00:34:10.000 And they deploy it selectively against the white man and against the West.

00:34:14.000 And it is really fascinating to me.

00:34:16.000 People really need to snap themselves out of this.

00:34:19.000 The hatred of profit.

00:34:21.000 The assumption of the word profit is something bad or means something negative.

00:34:24.000 The left, in this country, has really even gotten conservatives feeling guilty about it.

00:34:30.000 It is fascinating, we talked about this, the leftist GoFundMes, when they're like, I'm raising money for this.

00:34:35.000 Don't worry, we're taking none of the money.

00:34:37.000 They do, whatever they do as fundraisers are like, don't worry, the money is only going here, we won't take anything of it.

00:34:41.000 When I used to work for non-profits, they would, we would have, our tax, the tax filing for non-profits is a 990.

00:34:49.000 And it would... the organization would say, when you make a donation, X amount is administrative, X amount is to the programs.

00:34:57.000 And so...

00:34:59.000 People would actually ask you, how much of the money am I giving you is going towards the program?

00:35:03.000 And legally, you're supposed to be like, oh, it's 20% administrative costs and 80% to the cost, which makes literally no sense.

00:35:10.000 Because no one at the nonprofit is getting ridiculous salaries.

00:35:14.000 Even among the CEOs at nonprofits, they're getting substantially less than corporate CEOs, though they sometimes, like the big ones, they get millions of dollars, for sure.

00:35:20.000 You're running a massive organization.

00:35:22.000 But I'm like, I would tell people like, my guy, All of your money is going towards a cause.

00:35:28.000 Now, you want to give me the tax filing amount, I'll tell you, but this idea that we can't pay for the staff to file the paperwork, that we can't have food to eat or pay our rent or buy a car while we're doing this work is absurd.

00:35:40.000 But that's the mentality people have.

00:35:42.000 No, you doing the work should do it for free.

00:35:45.000 The left has really, however this emerged in this country is crazy to me, they've got people being like, profit is bad.

00:35:52.000 Now I think mostly conservatives are more attuned to realizing that's BS, we're capitalists here, and profit means your cut of what you're worth, the labor you did.

00:36:01.000 But people need to realize you're allowed to make money.

00:36:03.000 My challenge is greed.

00:36:05.000 You have charity and greed, the virtue and the sin.

00:36:08.000 And so I try not to be greedy, even though some of my closest advisors and friends are like, Ian, now is the time for you to be greedy. 0.99

00:36:13.000 Make some fucking money, dude. 0.95

00:36:15.000 And I'm like, I just... You can't give anything anymore than you have it. 0.99

00:36:18.000 A lot of times these concepts of greed, hypocrisy, they've lost their original meaning.

00:36:25.000 So greed normally has meant, historically, That you have your eye on something that is not rightfully yours.

00:36:34.000 That's greed.

00:36:35.000 Greed is not, I made an incredible product, lots of people wanted to buy it and so they all gave me $10 a piece and so now I'm a multi-millionaire.

00:36:43.000 That's not greed.

00:36:44.000 That's you're supplying a want and someone else is willingly giving you the payment in return.

00:36:50.000 There's no greed involved.

00:36:51.000 Take hypocrisy.

00:36:52.000 Hypocrisy in its current meaning is you have a moral standard And you are falling short of it.

00:37:00.000 Think of it.

00:37:00.000 Some guy who's like, I'm a family man.

00:37:03.000 Oh, he was seen, you know, with another woman. 1.00

00:37:06.000 He's a hypocrite. 0.99

00:37:07.000 Actually, that has never been the meaning of hypocrisy. 1.00

00:37:10.000 Because everyone is supposed to have higher moral standards than you live up to.

00:37:13.000 Because otherwise the way to not be a hypocrite is not to have any moral standards at all. 0.97

00:37:17.000 You can never be a hypocrite because there are no standards to judge you by. 0.95

00:37:22.000 Right?

00:37:22.000 So hypocrisy traditionally means I have a standard But I don't really believe in it.

00:37:28.000 I'm a faker.

00:37:29.000 So, I actually, I'm only pretending to be a good guy.

00:37:34.000 But in fact, I'm a really bad guy. 1.00

00:37:36.000 So that guy's a hypocrite. 0.99

00:37:37.000 Because he's stating a value that he doesn't really believe in. 0.99

00:37:40.000 But if someone genuinely believes that, you know, I should be charitable, I should be a nice guy, I should be faithful to my wife.

00:37:47.000 But guess what?

00:37:48.000 I'm not as charitable as I ought to be.

00:37:50.000 Hey, my head turns when a pretty girl goes by. 1.00

00:37:52.000 I'm not a hypocrite.

00:37:53.000 I'm just falling short of worthy moral standards. 0.96

00:37:56.000 Is it if you accept that you're falling short and don't try to change it, then you become hypocritical?

00:38:03.000 No, because, well, at least in Christianity, you acknowledge that you are falling short, and your job is to be aware of your falling shortness, and your job is to be aware that you constantly need to strive to do better.

00:38:22.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 I think that's often hard for people to gather, or to grasp, I should say, rather.

00:38:27.000 It seems innately inhuman to say that profit is something to be bad, but it's like, because normally in hunting you'd get what you need for an animal, but if you think about it, you're hunting an animal, you're getting not only food for yourself, but for your family, for those around you, etc.

00:38:40.000 That's what profit really comes from underneath everything, and it's weird, Tim's right, that this has taken root in America, but...

00:38:45.000 Usury is part of it, is banking profit.

00:38:47.000 They're taking so much interest and it's unethical, you could argue.

00:38:51.000 That's the usurious part.

00:38:52.000 They call it usury because it's unethical, unethical interest.

00:38:55.000 So people are like, see a lot of people making profit, I put it in quotes, because they're just sitting in their luxury apartments getting 20% on every loan that they've got out.

00:39:04.000 And you're like, yo, you ain't doing anything for that money, bro.

00:39:08.000 You just born into that banking family.

00:39:11.000 Yeah, although even that's very questionable, because if you think of money as... money is the stored value of your earlier labor, right?

00:39:19.000 So let's say, for example, I'm now 62 years old, I've accumulated money all my life, I've worked really hard for it, and I could have spent it then and had instant gratification.

00:39:28.000 But I chose deferred gratification, so now I have the stored value.

00:39:32.000 And there is a time value of money, right?

00:39:35.000 So now if I invest that money, I don't have to work, but it does represent work I've already done.

00:39:41.000 That's how I got the money in the first place.

00:39:43.000 Now you're right when it becomes generational and it's coming down from family to family but you know one of the remarkable things about the United States is that in this country the vast majority of people did not become rich that way.

00:39:55.000 In other countries it is true that in Europe by and large you meet a really rich guy, chances are he's from a rich family.

00:40:02.000 But in the United States, self-made people all over the place, and not to mention, within the same family.

00:40:08.000 I mean, one guy's a millionaire, and another guy's like pump and gas.

00:40:12.000 In the same family, same, you know, I mean, think of it, same gene pool, same socialization, and they end up so different in the walk of life.

00:40:20.000 Let's jump to this story from Fox News. 0.95

00:40:21.000 We're going to expose Harvard for the liars they are.

00:40:24.000 GOP Harvard graduates send scathing letter blasting school's response to pro-Hamas students. 0.99

00:40:30.000 Abhorrent!

00:40:31.000 Harvard has faced heated criticism after student groups expressed support for Hamas after its attack on Israel.

00:40:35.000 Take a look at this tweet from James Lindsay.

00:40:37.000 How it started and how it's going.

00:40:39.000 It's a good one.

00:40:39.000 And the first one is a quote.

00:40:41.000 Despite being the most acclaimed academic institution in the country, Harvard received a 0.00 point free speech ranking on 100 point scale, a full 11 points behind the next worst school.

00:40:53.000 And then the response from the Harvard president.

00:40:57.000 Over the pro-Hamas protests.

00:40:59.000 Our university embraces a commitment to free expression.

00:41:02.000 That commitment extends even to views that many of us find objectionable, even outrageous.

00:41:06.000 We do not punish or sanction people for expressing such views.

00:41:09.000 That's absolutely hilarious because they have criticized and condemned conservatives in the past.

00:41:15.000 The fact that they're unwilling to criticize this group and they're actually saying, well, you know, they're allowed to do it, shows Harvard overtly supports what these students are saying.

00:41:25.000 The institutions are absolutely corrupted, but as horrifying as this situation in Israel is, we are now seeing the left overtly supporting acts of terror, killing of children, capturing and killing of civilians, and I appreciate their free speech.

00:41:42.000 I'm glad they're saying the things they're saying.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, I mean, and yet it is...

00:41:47.000 It is so poignant for me to see liberals, liberals of the old stripe, and here I'm actually thinking of the former Harvard president Larry Summers.

00:41:54.000 I don't know if you saw his statement.

00:41:55.000 He's like, I'm so bitterly grieved that an institution to which I have been affiliated with for most of my adult life is, you know, has sort of broken with the principles and is now taking the side of the terrorists.

00:42:10.000 And I was thinking, wow, Larry Summers, If anyone would say, who's the embodiment of Harvard over the last 50 years?

00:42:16.000 They would say you.

00:42:17.000 You're the example of the kind of classical liberal that surrendered to the left.

00:42:24.000 That enabled the leftist takeover of these institutions.

00:42:27.000 Because conservatives never ran these institutions.

00:42:30.000 When I was a student at Dartmouth, I would say it was the old-line liberals who were in charge and the new left pushing up against them.

00:42:37.000 And the change in the college to today would be that that insurgent group is now completely in charge and the old-line liberals have been pushed aside.

00:42:46.000 But the old-line liberals let it happen.

00:42:49.000 And they're now, in a sense, living with the fruit of it.

00:42:51.000 It's a little bit like some of these women on the subway. 1.00

00:42:54.000 You know, these bohemian women who are approached by people who, like, punch them and slap them. 0.90

00:42:58.000 And you feel sorry for them, but you're like...

00:43:01.000 Isn't this what you voted for?

00:43:02.000 Right?

00:43:02.000 You know, if this guy had come and slapped some other woman and you saw it, you'd be like, don't go after that guy!

00:43:09.000 He's a victim of racism!

00:43:11.000 You know, let's not... Black lives matter! 1.00

00:43:14.000 So, you've got this... And then they get hit and go, help, help, I'm being oppressed!

00:43:17.000 That's right.

00:43:18.000 When it happens to them, suddenly the rules change.

00:43:20.000 It's like when Elon Musk banned, like, those five journalists leftists on Twitter for, like, one day.

00:43:25.000 Not only did they go nuts, I mean, they were quoting John Stuart Mill, I mean, they were discovering Yeah, and therein lies the big challenge.

00:43:39.000 But now, I mean, some of them stayed true to their principles.

00:43:41.000 There's that woman whose boyfriend was murdered in front of her, and the reports are that she's refusing to identify the murderer. 0.72

00:43:48.000 What?

00:43:48.000 But the conspiracy theory on Axe-slash-Twitter is that it was a hit.

00:43:54.000 Yeah, I heard that.

00:43:55.000 You know, I don't know about that, but I gotta be honest.

00:43:58.000 Are you really gonna come out and claim to the police that the reason you're not identifying the killer is because that would be racist?

00:44:03.000 Are the cops gonna believe that and be like, really?

00:44:06.000 Someone murdered your boyfriend in front of you and you're like, but if he goes to jail, it's racist, so whoopsie!

00:44:11.000 So a lot of people are convinced, like, there's no way someone watches their loved one die in front of them and then says, but because of racism, I think the killer should be free.

00:44:21.000 Unless they wanted it to happen.

00:44:22.000 I mean, it's easier if you're a journalist and, you know, the suspect is black, but you leave that fact out of the article, which we've been seeing in recent decades.

00:44:31.000 But then at least you are not facing the consequences.

00:44:33.000 It's kind of virtue on the cheap. 0.86

00:44:36.000 I'm not going to mention that he's black, but, you know, I get some virtue points. 0.99

00:44:39.000 But it's a whole other matter if somebody comes and kills your kid. 0.97

00:44:44.000 And you're facing, and you're not willing to say, okay, that guy did it.

00:44:48.000 In the culture war, a lot of parents that we see waking up, it's because they're finally being impacted by it.

00:44:53.000 And it's an unfortunate reality.

00:44:55.000 Many years ago, Irving Kristol said that neoconservatism, which we've got a lot of problems with these days, but neoconservatism is when a liberal is mugged by reality.

00:45:07.000 And that happens to people.

00:45:08.000 We're seeing it now with Hamas. 0.92

00:45:10.000 Have you seen that meme?

00:45:11.000 I don't know, I can try and pull it up.

00:45:15.000 It's uh... I'll try and find it.

00:45:18.000 The political persuasion you gain when uh...

00:45:23.000 I don't know, I'll have to find it at some point.

00:45:26.000 But it shows all the different things that turns you into various political ideologies.

00:45:29.000 So it's like, this graph, and it shows, you get, you pay your, April 20th, and it's like, become libertarian.

00:45:36.000 Then it's like, get smugged, become conservative.

00:45:38.000 You know, get your speeding ticket, becomes liberal.

00:45:41.000 Is war on there?

00:45:42.000 War starts, become authoritarian?

00:45:44.000 No, no, no.

00:45:46.000 That's not on there, I don't know.

00:45:47.000 I'll try and find it.

00:45:48.000 You guys think that's natural and actually a good thing?

00:45:50.000 That we become more authoritarian when our livelihoods are threatened by war?

00:45:54.000 Well, I mean, look, I'm making this film, as you guys know, Police State, and I had to think to myself, how did this come to America?

00:46:02.000 Because a police state is very alien to America.

00:46:05.000 And then I realized that Paradoxically, this was a bipartisan creation of the aftermath of 9-11, because a lot of Americans, out of fear, were like, listen, we got these foreign terrorists, who knows when this is going to happen again, we need to stop the next guy, so we're going to give the government all these new surveillance powers, we're going to basically give them a carte blanche, do whatever you want,

00:46:30.000 Never thinking that 10 years later they would take all that armory of resources and then turn it domestically and say, all right, we'll now have a new target.

00:46:39.000 Domestic extremists! 0.70

00:46:41.000 Right.

00:46:42.000 And that changes the whole game.

00:46:44.000 So that, in my view, was the sort of genesis of the American police state.

00:46:48.000 So it's kind of like a knee-jerk reaction, almost, to being under attack without thinking about the long-term possibilities of that.

00:46:56.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 Well, when you're in fear and you're in fear of attack, you tend to go to by any means necessary.

00:47:04.000 That's a normal reaction.

00:47:05.000 I mean, that's what you would think if outlaws surrounded your house.

00:47:07.000 I need to fight this by any means necessary.

00:47:10.000 And that's what leads you to think, I'm going to give the government these powers that I wouldn't normally give them.

00:47:15.000 This is why the left loved COVID.

00:47:17.000 Same thing.

00:47:18.000 They're like, COVID creates a wartime environment in which people are full of fear.

00:47:23.000 And when you're full of fear, you also trust experts.

00:47:25.000 Here's a man in a white lab coat.

00:47:26.000 Take this.

00:47:27.000 This pill will make you feel better.

00:47:28.000 You're like, oh, OK.

00:47:30.000 No one's going to be like, well, why are you giving me these tests, doctor?

00:47:32.000 What are these tests really for?

00:47:33.000 And what does this pill really do?

00:47:35.000 You defer to people who supposedly are experts on all this.

00:47:39.000 And so this is a wonderful way for the left to make political advances.

00:47:44.000 Operating through the fear of the American people.

00:47:46.000 Do you think there are environments where you can kind of change your society into a military society, a militocracy, without it turning on itself?

00:47:57.000 Well, the Spartans did that for centuries.

00:48:00.000 They had a very militaristic culture and they would train kids.

00:48:04.000 They essentially had martial academies as a substitute for schools.

00:48:08.000 And fighting was their education.

00:48:10.000 And they were the best at it.

00:48:12.000 And they developed all these amazing techniques.

00:48:14.000 Basically, you'd have a phalanx and everybody would hold a shield.

00:48:17.000 You're not defending yourself with your shield.

00:48:20.000 Your shield defends the guy to the right.

00:48:22.000 And you're defended by the shield of the guy to your left.

00:48:25.000 And so the Spartans would move in a phalanx.

00:48:27.000 I mean, they were so formidable that in the Peloponnesian War, the Greeks could not fight them.

00:48:32.000 So the Athenians decided, when the war started, we're going to abandon all our land and go to sea, because we can't fight the Spartans one-on-one.

00:48:41.000 We'll let the Spartans come and take all our land.

00:48:44.000 Eventually, the weakness of the phalanx was discovered, and they began flanking them.

00:48:49.000 Well, not only that, but the Spartans also didn't like technology.

00:48:52.000 Apparently, someone came to the Spartan king, Archidamus, and told him, we've invented a way to launch a projectile, so we don't actually have to fight man-to-man.

00:49:01.000 And the Spartan king said, I will give you a reward.

00:49:03.000 Speak to no one about this invention, because if this invention becomes widespread, Basically, military valor will disappear in Sparta.

00:49:12.000 Wow.

00:49:12.000 So they were more concerned with maintaining the military virtue than having this kind of new gadget.

00:49:17.000 There's something to that though.

00:49:19.000 There's something to it.

00:49:19.000 With the advent of the cartridge.

00:49:24.000 You ended up with conscription.

00:49:26.000 I mean, there was always some form of conscription, but widespread military conscription came to be when you didn't need to train people.

00:49:31.000 Yes, because anyone could fight.

00:49:32.000 As soon as you had... So, obviously with the musket, you start seeing more and more of it. 1.00

00:49:36.000 There's always some kind of, we have to go and fight to varying degrees, but then when you got the reloadable cartridge, you end up with the U.S.

00:49:44.000 going to all these countries and being like, not necessarily the U.S., but many weapons manufacturers and saying, now your farmers can fight.

00:49:51.000 Hand them this, tell them to point and click.

00:49:52.000 All they need to be trained is how to reload.

00:49:55.000 And they're gonna miss a whole lot, but it doesn't matter.

00:49:57.000 You don't need to know technique anymore.

00:49:59.000 I watched that movie, I think it's The Last Samurai, I could be wrong.

00:50:01.000 Tom Cruise?

00:50:02.000 It might have been The Last Samurai, maybe not.

00:50:03.000 I don't know, I watched a movie where it was... I think this is what it was.

00:50:07.000 It's in the 1800s and it's around when... Yeah, the end of the Meiji. 0.96

00:50:10.000 Yeah, and so the samurai who are trained and were these elites were no longer necessary and they were losing political power.

00:50:16.000 Yes, right.

00:50:17.000 That's crazy.

00:50:18.000 And soon it's going to be a dude in a pod in an underground base with a headset on flying

00:50:23.000 a drone.

00:50:24.000 We're already basically there, but I mean like the future of warfare is going to be

00:50:28.000 silly because it'll be drones fighting drones.

00:50:29.000 Yeah, that's so true. 0.95

00:50:31.000 You're going to be in a factory and you're going to be in a conflict zone and then it's

00:50:34.000 going to be like the alarm's going to go off and it's like, flee!

00:50:37.000 All the humans are going to evacuate and then it's going to be a bunch of weird drones just 0.99

00:50:39.000 crashing into each other and robot dogs shooting at each other.

00:50:42.000 And we'll see another Sparta-like situation where the people from the military-industrial complex and the governments are going to be like, no, we want to use the weapons that we have.

00:50:49.000 We really want to use our F-17s.

00:50:51.000 We've got to use our long-range intercontinental ballistic missiles. 0.84

00:50:53.000 And at the same time, you're getting ripped apart by drones or some stupid new tech that's like, well, if we use that, then we're not going to be able to use our toys. 0.93

00:51:00.000 It's like, you've got to adapt. 0.94

00:51:01.000 You're going to have to adapt really rapidly to the new type of war.

00:51:03.000 I mean, look, it was in the, what was it, the 80s?

00:51:06.000 Terminator?

00:51:07.000 The concept of an AI taking over our weapons before we even had developed technology.

00:51:13.000 It's really incredible.

00:51:15.000 It leads me to believe we're probably going to build warp engines and go travel the galaxy because in the 80s when computers were trash they were like one day computers will be so strong and so smart they'll take everything over.

00:51:24.000 Now we're looking at AI and it's terrifying.

00:51:27.000 I mean, the genius of that movie, Terminator 1, I think was the best, but 2 was pretty good too, is that it made an accurate call in a way that earlier science fiction never did.

00:51:39.000 You go back and read H.G.

00:51:40.000 Wells, you know, in the early part of the 20th century, and he has the idea that you'd have these massive lumbering robots, like 20 feet tall, with big legs, you know, and they'd be doing all this work for us.

00:51:51.000 But Terminator, I think, was a very thought-provoking movie in its own way.

00:51:56.000 And underestimated at the time, but in retrospect, I think it's like one of these movies like Shawshank Redemption, over time it gets better.

00:52:04.000 I think Terminator 2 was the big one, like Terminator was good, they made a sequel, and Terminator 2 was just like it.

00:52:08.000 2 was huge, huge.

00:52:10.000 Guns and Roses had a song in it, obviously.

00:52:13.000 Eddie, the kids.

00:52:14.000 You were like, I'm the one who needs to be the good guy.

00:52:16.000 Sarah Connor.

00:52:17.000 I mean, it was a female hero, the whole thing, like the main character was this badass woman that was awesome, like alien. 0.99

00:52:24.000 It was James Cameron, same director as Alien.

00:52:26.000 Yeah.

00:52:27.000 So he's really good at creating, at that point he was.

00:52:29.000 What's your fear with AI?

00:52:31.000 Have you been studying it?

00:52:31.000 Have you done any documentaries on it yet?

00:52:33.000 I haven't.

00:52:35.000 No, but I think it changes the rules of the game in so many ways.

00:52:40.000 I was telling Tim earlier that I walk into my podcast, you know, and the guy who does the technical work on the podcast, he took my last podcast and he put in some AI and there I am speaking fluent Spanish.

00:52:56.000 And my mouth is moving and my wife who's Venezuelan, she's like, oh my, she was like stunned, you know, speechless for a moment because, so think about, think about the, just from that simple idea, the possibilities of manipulation. 0.99

00:53:10.000 I mean, I can see the promise of it, but I can also see the peril of it.

00:53:13.000 Well, here's the start.

00:53:14.000 Within a couple of years, YouTube rolls out the auto-translate button that will just press a button and then all of a sudden everyone's speaking Spanish or German or Japanese.

00:53:22.000 And then, from there, you have the technology to just create a podcast.

00:53:27.000 You could literally just... We're almost to the point where you can type in to one of these AIs, give me an episode of TimCast IRL with Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, and Donald Trump, and it will AI-generate the whole thing, and it will seem real.

00:53:42.000 I mean, think about that.

00:53:43.000 Tim and I could be huge in Japan.

00:53:45.000 That's right.

00:53:46.000 But I will say very quickly, as of today, today probably not, because Seamus Coghlan, Freedom Tunes, he put out this hilarious video called asking ChatGPT to make a Freedom Tunes cartoon.

00:53:57.000 And he basically asks ChatGPT to write a script for a Freedom Tunes cartoon based on ones he's already done.

00:54:03.000 And one of them is Ben Shapiro having Thanksgiving with his family.

00:54:07.000 And it's actually really funny, and he's, like, surprised.

00:54:11.000 There's, like, one of the kids goes, when I grow up, can I be a conservative?

00:54:15.000 It's, like, funny things like that.

00:54:16.000 But then he types in, Bernie Sanders having Thanksgiving with his family, and it made the exact same script but changed Ben for Bernie.

00:54:23.000 So it's, like, not quite there yet, but it actually still was kind of funny.

00:54:27.000 But we're getting there.

00:54:28.000 I was picturing, I mentioned Napoleon earlier and how he, one of his greatest achievements was the ability to decentralize command among his marshals and create a core system, that a military, a victorious military government is going to do that with drone, with artificial intelligence, and decentralize its command amongst a bunch of different artificial intelligences, because it's going to be so effective, they're going to win, but it's so risky that one of the AIs is going to go rogue and take over, and then it's going to become man-on-machine.

00:54:28.000 We're getting there.

00:54:56.000 I'm afraid of that.

00:54:57.000 What did you say about Napoleon?

00:54:58.000 He was good at decentralizing command.

00:55:00.000 Right.

00:55:01.000 So I just wanted to add, I wouldn't bring up Napoleon as it pertains to developing new technologies in the military because of this quote.

00:55:08.000 You would make a ship sail against the winds and currents by lighting a bonfire under her decks?

00:55:13.000 I have no time for such nonsense.

00:55:15.000 That's a great quote.

00:55:15.000 That was Napoleon.

00:55:16.000 It's like the classic.

00:55:17.000 It's like the classic is exactly what the Spartans were saying.

00:55:19.000 We don't want this new tech to come and disrupt what we already have going for us.

00:55:22.000 Because he's from the age of sail.

00:55:23.000 He didn't agree with the idea of having a ship with a motor.

00:55:26.000 Like, oh, that's so not manly.

00:55:28.000 You hear that all the time.

00:55:29.000 And then that ultimately becomes the way of the world.

00:55:32.000 I watched a documentary on the ironclads.

00:55:35.000 And then because we drove down to a national park where we actually got to see like a bunch of the rivers and stuff.

00:55:42.000 Look at the stories and then I went we went to a an aquarium that actually there's like a crashed ironclad Yeah, dude when people Realized we can coat the top of our boat with metal and then put an engine underneath a steam engine we can we we own and there's crazy stories where like the confederates had this ironclad and and they're firing on a Union ship and then the

00:56:07.000 I someone's gonna know the story better than me cause I'm not a historian or anything but

00:56:10.000 one of the guys in the Union ship runs over and he's like he pulls the cord or

00:56:14.000 whatever to fire it hits the ironclad bounces right off and then lands back 0.73

00:56:17.000 on a ship blowing him up and killing him. 0.99

00:56:18.000 Oh man. That's wild. Yeah crazy stuff and then there's but it's also like 1.00

00:56:23.000 they eventually figured out that the the smokestacks or whatever on the ironclads

00:56:27.000 were the weak point if you got rid of it the airflow couldn't come in and keep the fire

00:56:30.000 going and it would shut him down.

00:56:32.000 Dude, war... like... Was that the monitor?

00:56:36.000 I don't remember.

00:56:37.000 War technology history is amazing.

00:56:40.000 The history of war technology.

00:56:41.000 And how technology is often the key factor in how a civilization decays.

00:56:46.000 If you've been to Venice, they have Carnival.

00:56:51.000 And how'd they get Carnival?

00:56:52.000 Well, the Venetians actually were the dominant shipping power in the Mediterranean.

00:56:58.000 But the Spanish set to work on building a better ship, the Caravelle, basically the ships that Columbus got.

00:57:05.000 And the Venetians knew about it, but they didn't go that way.

00:57:07.000 They decided, we're not going to go there.

00:57:09.000 We don't need it.

00:57:10.000 We dominate the region.

00:57:12.000 So the Spanish built a better ship, and they crossed the ocean and got to the Americas.

00:57:16.000 They changed the whole balance of power, not just toward Europe, but inside of Europe.

00:57:22.000 And then Venice could never recover from that, so they said, basically, let's party.

00:57:27.000 And that's the origin of... And they've been doing it for 300 years.

00:57:31.000 So the Spanish prioritized exploration over destructive capability, and that ended up making them more powerful. 0.72

00:57:37.000 Yes, well the Spanish, and it wasn't just the love of exploration, I mean the Spanish wanted to find a better way to get to India, to despise riches of India, and also gold.

00:57:48.000 So a combination of religious devotion, commercial enthusiasm, and also just love of exploration, all those things came together in Columbus.

00:57:59.000 Here's what I love.

00:58:00.000 I went we went to a restaurant we're in Miami you know me Luke my girlfriend

00:58:03.000 were hanging out and we order the food and of course you have the very nice

00:58:06.000 server walk over and say fresh pepper for your soup sir and he crushes the 0.96

00:58:09.000 little black pepper thing on your on your soup or your salad literally

00:58:12.000 whatever it is you're eating they ask you if you want black pepper why this

00:58:15.000 used to be like the most valuable thing in the world I probably how many how

00:58:19.000 many people died in wars because of black pepper and now it just sits on

00:58:24.000 every diner You go to a Waffle House, and of course they've got... You have little packages with black pepper in it.

00:58:31.000 In fact, people just throw it away.

00:58:32.000 No one cares anymore.

00:58:34.000 And not just pepper, salt!

00:58:36.000 For 300 years in the Middle Ages, even rich people would eat meat, but they didn't have salt.

00:58:41.000 Yeah, in the Bible, I think it was in the New Testament, they mentioned that salt has flavor.

00:58:46.000 There's a flavor.

00:58:47.000 Salt has a flavor to it.

00:58:48.000 I never think of that these days, because it's everywhere.

00:58:50.000 I'm so desensitized to the saltiness.

00:58:51.000 There's a bunch of different kinds of salt, too.

00:58:53.000 I worked at this place called Salio Italio once, which is based off of, like, different kinds of salts on food.

00:59:00.000 It didn't last very long.

00:59:01.000 We have lava salt.

00:59:03.000 It's because we bought the Wagyu we had one time, and so you get the lava salt, you put it on the Wagyu beef.

00:59:08.000 And it's got carbon in it, I guess, so it turns black.

00:59:10.000 So we conquered, well, we, I say this, this imperial conquest of Earth, basically, to compile all the foods for one of the war score goals, or one of the victories that we got was all this food.

00:59:22.000 But like, now I'm concerned about Klaus Schwab saying you're going to be eating bugs in a pod.

00:59:26.000 If they really want to control and unify the world, What's the incentive?

00:59:30.000 Like, you're going to have to make things better if you want to control Earth, not worse.

00:59:35.000 Well, not necessarily, because I think one of the things that struck me, I was really surprised by, is as I was working on, you know, police state, police state in America, I thought to myself, wait a minute, a lot of the COVID restrictions, for example, that we saw in America, we see them in Canada.

00:59:50.000 We saw them in Europe.

00:59:52.000 We see them in Australia.

00:59:54.000 A lot of the issues of election fraud that we are debating in America, we see in Brazil.

00:59:59.000 So suddenly, we realize that our danger isn't just a police state, but a police planet.

01:00:06.000 Because there's the risk... A prison planet!

01:00:08.000 Yeah, a prison planet in which the entire population of the world is under the control of some Decentralized elite, but it's an elite in communication with each other. 0.90

01:00:19.000 I mean, the marvel of today is that you have collaboration without conspiracy.

01:00:24.000 I mean, here's a crazy example of that.

01:00:26.000 The suppression of the Hunter Biden story.

01:00:28.000 This is a real puzzle.

01:00:29.000 Now, I can understand if you're running Stalin's regime, it's easy to suppress the Hunter Biden story.

01:00:34.000 Nobody gets to publish it or they get killed.

01:00:36.000 Or even under, you know, Goebbels.

01:00:38.000 He's the propaganda minister of Germany.

01:00:40.000 He just instructs all the media.

01:00:41.000 You can't do it.

01:00:42.000 Everything is under the control of the state. 0.99

01:00:43.000 But in America, we have hundreds of news organizations, thousands of journalists, and normal libertarian theory would tell you, okay, If people don't want to publish the Hunter Biden story, some guy at the Sacramento Bee or the Denver Post or the Dallas Morning News is going to be like, you idiots can be my guest and not publish the story. 0.98

01:01:03.000 I'm going to publish the story. 0.96

01:01:04.000 I'm going to have the biggest story.

01:01:06.000 But the fact that no one did it.

01:01:08.000 Think about it.

01:01:09.000 Think about the level of regimentation there has to be where the ordinary reporter, who's not that political, goes, I cannot touch that story because if I do, the sword of Damocles will fall on my head and chop my head off and I can't do it.

01:01:23.000 Not one guy did it.

01:01:24.000 The Post, didn't the New York Post report on it?

01:01:26.000 Right, so when the New York Post, being the only one to go out forward, suddenly it was almost like there was a massive media mobilization to shut those people down, to take them off the internet, to shut down the story, and the media was applauding.

01:01:41.000 Have you found that these news organizations are working in secret behind the scenes, like a lot of them?

01:01:48.000 Do you have any evidence?

01:01:50.000 No, I think this is what makes it even more scary.

01:01:53.000 I mean, if we could find evidence that they all got on a 6 a.m.

01:01:56.000 Zoom call and they all said, let's not do it, I would at least go, oh, okay, that's how that happened.

01:02:01.000 I find it even scarier to find that human beings operate like birds flying to Florida in the summer where they're not communicating.

01:02:10.000 They're not on a Zoom call, but they take signals from each other and they're all able to maintain a flying formation.

01:02:16.000 It's like tacit.

01:02:17.000 I was reminded of George Carlin saying, there doesn't need to be a formal conspiracy for people to act with the same interests or the same underlying interest towards doing something.

01:02:25.000 And that's exactly what you're talking about.

01:02:26.000 It was just tacit.

01:02:27.000 People just did it because they were just like, well, I'm too scared to fall out of the flock or I'm too scared to be attacked by my neighbor because of what I say and do.

01:02:33.000 And that was really scary.

01:02:34.000 That was creepy.

01:02:35.000 That whole, uh, the whole laptop story.

01:02:36.000 Now it's been totally, it's been totally ratified and it's just reality.

01:02:40.000 People accept it.

01:02:40.000 It's like jokes.

01:02:41.000 You hear jokes about it now, like every day.

01:02:43.000 It's wild.

01:02:44.000 I think, I think they're losing control.

01:02:45.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:02:46.000 I think the internet caught the powers that be by surprise and they can't control it anymore.

01:02:52.000 They're desperately trying, but they just, they've lost the grip.

01:02:55.000 For a little bit there, it appeared that when they had Twitter and YouTube and Google and Facebook, and those guys were working in coordination.

01:03:05.000 I mean, interestingly, Alex Jones was banned on those platforms within five minutes of each other.

01:03:11.000 So think about that.

01:03:11.000 They had to be in communication.

01:03:13.000 They had to make a deal that way.

01:03:15.000 I think that for this reason, what Elon Musk has done is very significant and I think has historic significance.

01:03:22.000 When you look back, it's pried open the closing Can a free speech and with the development of mesh networking and things like that and where our networks can go phone device to device without some sort of central authority.

01:03:37.000 It seems like we're headed in a path towards bypassing central authority.

01:03:41.000 Yeah.

01:03:41.000 This is a cool thing.

01:03:42.000 When I was on a, I mean, anybody who's gone on a cruise probably has noticed this already depending on the cruise, but I went out to, there was a cruise called Summit at Sea.

01:03:49.000 And this is billed as like a bunch of influential people all buy a cruise ticket and then everyone interacts.

01:03:54.000 But when you go, they told everyone, download this app.

01:03:58.000 It creates a mesh network through Bluetooth so that everyone can chat with each other as if there was a cell tower nearby.

01:04:03.000 It's the craziest thing.

01:04:04.000 So basically what happens is you're on one side of the ship.

01:04:07.000 You send a message to your friend, John, That message, sir, your phone, connects to any nearby Bluetooth in the network, and then it ricochets off every device until it finds his, and then he gets the message.

01:04:19.000 It's really pretty cool.

01:04:19.000 Without everyone else, like, seeing it, too?

01:04:21.000 No, no.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, no, because it's encrypted.

01:04:24.000 Right.

01:04:24.000 And so it only seeks out the encryption key from the person who has it.

01:04:28.000 Yeah, I think in the future, your computer, you'll be able to click a little switch in the bottom right where it'll say, like, activate mesh, and then your computer will just be part of the network, the mesh network.

01:04:36.000 Anyone else who wants to mesh into it?

01:04:38.000 GPS is mostly becoming irrelevant.

01:04:41.000 I mean, not really, but kind of.

01:04:44.000 A lot of people maybe don't know this.

01:04:46.000 Your phone tracks your location through ambient signals.

01:04:49.000 Not necessarily through satellites anymore.

01:04:51.000 Yeah, right.

01:04:52.000 When you're using... And here's the crazy thing.

01:04:55.000 Google Maps on Android right now is not even using that.

01:04:58.000 It's using pictures.

01:05:00.000 So if you have low accuracy and it doesn't know where you are, it says point your camera out the window and then it uses Google Earth data.

01:05:08.000 So by you filming the trees as you drive down the highway, it'll be like, found you.

01:05:12.000 Yeah, when I learned that, it blew my mind.

01:05:14.000 It was terrifying, actually.

01:05:16.000 Dinesh, are you concerned about the metaverse?

01:05:19.000 Not necessarily Mark Zuckerberg's, but just the concept of going into a neural net universe and kind of living your daily life in this thing?

01:05:25.000 Or do you think it's a good benefit for the species?

01:05:28.000 How do you view it?

01:05:32.000 The problem, I think, is bigger than that.

01:05:35.000 The metaverse is like the latest chapter of this, and that is that we have visual and virtual reality, and I admit, as a filmmaker, I create the same, that if you don't, it has the risk of pulling us away from real human feelings.

01:05:52.000 And so our feelings become increasingly simulated.

01:05:55.000 They're not even really real.

01:05:58.000 And by that I mean we're accustomed to a certain type.

01:06:01.000 Let's take, for example, a politician who sees some of these horrific images, right?

01:06:06.000 He goes, Oh my god, there are children who are being held hostage and are being slaughtered, and you feel that emotion as if it was your own kid, but like, for three seconds, right?

01:06:17.000 Because then somebody goes, hey, I got a hamburger here, you know, you want cheese?

01:06:20.000 You know, and so we're now in this world where we have this extreme reaction But then we go right back to a mundane reality.

01:06:29.000 And so, the metaverse just takes this concept to a whole new level, where you can have a surrogate identity, you can have a virtual girlfriend, you can buy real estate in the metaverse, so suddenly you have a surrogate life!

01:06:44.000 This is why people don't get.

01:06:46.000 There's two reasons why you will live in the pod, and you'll be happy.

01:06:50.000 You'll live in the pod, you'll eat the bugs, and you'll be happy.

01:06:51.000 The first reason is, when they take away your children's knowledge of what could be, they won't want it.

01:06:59.000 So, 100 years ago, let's say 200 years ago, nobody was complaining about not having air conditioning.

01:07:04.000 There wasn't air conditioning.

01:07:05.000 You would just go and cool off by the water and hole, or fan yourself.

01:07:10.000 Now that we have air conditioning, people are like, why don't you have air conditioning?

01:07:13.000 Oh, there's restaurants.

01:07:14.000 People won't go.

01:07:15.000 No, you don't have air conditioning.

01:07:16.000 Now we have to have it.

01:07:16.000 They take away your knowledge of what could be and you will be like, wow, the pod is fun.

01:07:21.000 But the other reason is because it's not living in a pod.

01:07:24.000 You're going to be a king.

01:07:26.000 You're gonna come home from work, if you're even going to work, and some people will still have reality-based jobs, but most people will work in, like, white-collar jobs in the pod.

01:07:37.000 Your house will be a box.

01:07:38.000 You'll go inside and lock the door, lay back, and then your eyes will roll back in your head or whatever, and then you're instantly in a gigantic mansion.

01:07:45.000 Where your e-dog runs up to you and your dog never dies, your cat never dies.

01:07:50.000 We took a scan of your old cat from when you were a kid and made a fake version of it.

01:07:53.000 Your A.I.

01:07:54.000 wife walks up to you, she'll never leave you. 1.00

01:07:56.000 She's everything you ever wanted her to be.

01:07:57.000 We were talking about that at the event last Friday at Evercrack.

01:08:01.000 I was talking with the guys from PBD Podcast and Everquest, the video game, and he was like, When the power would go out, like, no, I lost my life!

01:08:10.000 Like, my whole, my person, I'm gone.

01:08:12.000 And we were talking about the, like, getting into the metaverse and the danger of, like, if you have a surrogate, if you're really in love, and that gets turned off, like, what in the hell?

01:08:22.000 You're a complete slave to that system at that point.

01:08:24.000 Two of the great dystopian works of the 20th century were Huxley's Brave New World, which is actually this, what you're just describing, and the other of course is Orwell.

01:08:34.000 And interestingly, at that time I thought we may go this way or we may go that way, but it never occurred to me that we would actually go both ways.

01:08:43.000 So we're now getting a hybrid of Huxley and Orwell.

01:08:47.000 So Orwell says that the police state is a boot stamping on a human face, right?

01:08:53.000 And we have some of that.

01:08:54.000 And this is what I do in the film.

01:08:55.000 I mean, I want the ordinary citizen to see that because Americans have a great difficulty getting their heads around the fact that that could happen here.

01:09:03.000 But the Huxley part of it is another way a police state lulls a citizen into sort of complacency.

01:09:10.000 It's like, we'll give you manufactured experience.

01:09:12.000 Now, manufactured experience is not real experience in the sense that it's not the real thing, right?

01:09:18.000 I mean, living your life with a real woman and going through all that has a texture and complexity that an e-girlfriend or even a porn video cannot supply.

01:09:28.000 But Tim's point is, what if you don't know that?

01:09:31.000 What if you think that this porn experience is actually sexual experience?

01:09:36.000 This is romantic experience. 0.91

01:09:38.000 I've got a girlfriend.

01:09:39.000 Why would I want a real one?

01:09:41.000 This one never complains.

01:09:42.000 This is what's going on.

01:09:44.000 You're forgetting one name as well.

01:09:45.000 It's not just Orwell or Huxley.

01:09:47.000 It's also Bradbury.

01:09:48.000 Fahrenheit 451.

01:09:50.000 It's all coming together.

01:09:51.000 What's that story?

01:09:52.000 Fahrenheit 451.

01:09:52.000 People became so offended that the society built up firemen who would go and destroy offensive materials.

01:09:59.000 Right.

01:10:00.000 And it's not about the government doing it.

01:10:02.000 It's about the people collectively being like, if you make a book critical of the unions, well, that's offensive to you.

01:10:07.000 You can't have that.

01:10:08.000 If someone likes dogs, well, that's offensive to cat owners.

01:10:10.000 So you got to get rid of it all.

01:10:12.000 And so what's going to happen is you're going to have the police demanding, hey, it's past curfew.

01:10:17.000 Get in your pod.

01:10:18.000 Then you're going to have that.

01:10:19.000 But don't worry, in your pod, you're eating nothing but cheesecake.

01:10:21.000 You're eating creme brulee, cookie dough, caramel fudge, cheesecake, triple dipped, deep fried, every minute of every waking hour, whatever you could want.

01:10:30.000 It's like pulsing your abs, and you wake up stronger, and it's safer, because we're always at war!

01:10:35.000 But then...

01:10:37.000 There's all the information removed from your existence because everyone's shocked and offended by it.

01:10:43.000 So in your private reality, you have whatever you want, but no one dare go outside of it or interact.

01:10:48.000 There's gonna be the solo player pod, your own private universe, sometimes you can invite friends in, but it's just for you.

01:10:54.000 And then there's gonna be the interactive PvP version, but no one dare do anything exciting there because it's too offensive.

01:10:59.000 I mean, think of the irony right now on campus.

01:11:02.000 You've got people who for a decade have been talking about being triggered and needing a safe space and microaggressions and you offended me by not using my pronouns and those same people are like, Hamas! 0.97

01:11:19.000 They're cheering real murder!

01:11:23.000 And yet, these rhetorical offenses were evidently so intolerable and unbearable to them and morally offensive, and those same people, when confronted with real atrocities, are like, hmm, we're okay with that one.

01:11:37.000 Yeah, I don't imagine that the Hamas government would use their pronouns.

01:11:42.000 It's also like I was thinking about that when we were watching that video where they were chanting Basically, you know Hitler's thing and I'm like, yeah, we're literally fighting against fascism and now they're On for Hitler's fascism.

01:11:56.000 It was crazy how fast they were able to adopt a Nazi phrase and turn a phrase just to say that.

01:12:01.000 This is why I say it's like an inversion.

01:12:03.000 That's why I say the left has no moral framework.

01:12:05.000 It's a chaotic and destructive force.

01:12:07.000 It makes no sense. They're like, those words are offensive.

01:12:09.000 And then they go and cheer for Hamas.

01:12:11.000 It's like bizarro world.

01:12:14.000 It's an inversion.

01:12:15.000 We here as moral people are like, innocent people shouldn't die, but offensive words may be necessary because sometimes offensive ideas are the right ideas and sometimes inoffensive ideas are the wrong ideas.

01:12:25.000 The left is inverted.

01:12:26.000 No.

01:12:27.000 No one should be allowed to speak, but what Hamas did... 0.95

01:12:33.000 It's an inverted world of nonsense morality. 0.98

01:12:36.000 It's crazy.

01:12:37.000 Yeah, they're falling into the oppressor-oppressed category.

01:12:39.000 I mean, a lot of it comes from the establishment of the Jewish state over the course of the 19th century.

01:12:44.000 But it's not.

01:12:45.000 When they say, like, if a homeless white person A homeless veteran, a white man, on the ground, they say he's the oppressor and Oprah Winfrey is the oppressed.

01:12:55.000 I'm not kidding.

01:12:56.000 That's their argument based on race.

01:12:58.000 A white veteran homeless man has more power than Oprah does.

01:13:02.000 That is nonsensical.

01:13:05.000 removal of that is that is the logical extension of systematic racism right and in fact it's the nonsensical logic or illogic of intersectionality right so intersectionality is that this was actually a very clever device thought of by a law professor a black law professor in the midwest and she was she's a black woman and she's like listen You know, I don't want all the civil rights prestige to go to Martin Luther King and all these black guys. 0.92

01:13:32.000 How do we get the black women ahead of him, right? 1.00

01:13:34.000 And the answer is double oppression! 0.87

01:13:37.000 So the black guy is a victim of racism, so he's got like one point, but I'm a victim of racism and sexism, two points. 0.91

01:13:45.000 And of course if I'm a black... 0.71

01:13:48.000 female lesbian, or have one leg, then I've got three points, so it becomes like a inverted totem pole. 1.00

01:13:55.000 But this was actually not even hypothetical.

01:13:59.000 You're quite literally describing the algorithmic machine that was built on social media.

01:14:04.000 So, Facebook launches their algorithm for the first time, and we see a wave of police brutality videos, because people don't like injustice, and so they're like, wow, I can't believe this is happening.

01:14:14.000 Of all people, police shouldn't be doing this, right?

01:14:16.000 They're supposed to protect us.

01:14:18.000 What happened is, many of these websites started making insane amounts of money when they kept posting this rage bait of police brutality.

01:14:25.000 But then something happened.

01:14:26.000 Someone posted racist police brutality.

01:14:29.000 All of a sudden they're getting 2x the views.

01:14:32.000 So that police brutality plus racism is not just 1.2 points, it's not x plus y, it's xy.

01:14:39.000 It's multiplied.

01:14:41.000 What ended up happening is you get some of the most absurd articles imaginable, where it's like Vice writes, Black trans lesbians personify Black Lives Matter and denounce police brutality from white supremacy. 0.86

01:14:53.000 They jam all of these words into the headline, so the algorithm will promote it more.

01:14:59.000 Oh yeah, because it's going to different groups.

01:15:01.000 So the idea of intersectionality actually emerges mechanically through our social media platforms because that's what the machine would share the most.

01:15:10.000 If someone clicks on racism, the algorithm says, people like this, show them more.

01:15:14.000 If someone clicks on sexism, they like this, show them more.

01:15:17.000 But you put them both together, everyone's clicking on it now.

01:15:20.000 So intersectionality fit the mold perfectly for promotion algorithm.

01:15:25.000 Very interesting.

01:15:26.000 It's technology meets ideology and so the ideology came first because these ideas go back to the late 1980s but of course at that time they were not powered by this sort of, there were no algorithms to drive them and then the algorithms, well I mean, the algorithms were programmed in this way because it's obviously, you know, inputs and outputs.

01:15:49.000 Right now, we're watching human identity fracture and shatter into a million pieces, to the point where, for the past 10 years, you've had the emergence of otherkin.

01:15:58.000 Are you familiar with otherkin?

01:16:00.000 I've heard the term, but I don't even know what it means.

01:16:02.000 Trans-mythical species. 1.00

01:16:04.000 There are people who identify as elf dragon lords and stuff like this, and it's like, you might assume it's nonsensical, and it's not as in the realm of reality, but a lot of people do say, like, I'm an owlkin, like, I have an owl spirit in me and things like this.

01:16:17.000 I'm actually identified as a wolf.

01:16:19.000 As we watch reality break down, human beings, you know like, someone who is male is identifying as female, people identifying as animals, there was one very prominent individual who was male but identified as a female tiger and got surgery to look like a tiger.

01:16:32.000 Oh I saw that, yeah.

01:16:33.000 Well that person took their own life.

01:16:34.000 What?

01:16:35.000 As we're watching the chaos rise and identity fracture, if we move into a metaverse reality, give it a couple generations and what you will see inside of people's pods... We make the joke, I made the joke that you're going to live in the pod and you're going to be in a mansion with a woman. 0.96

01:16:53.000 No, no, no, no.

01:16:55.000 So, in a couple generations of this continued fracturing of identity, you will take a look, the government will say, let's go spy on, you know, this person's pod experience, and they're gonna click it, and they're gonna be a piece of cake vibrating on a bowling ball that's spinning around a moon with a bunch of carrots twirling in the air, and you're like- It'll be like code.

01:17:16.000 No, it's gonna be- What the hell are they even- It's not even that, it's gonna be nonsensical abstractions- That's what I mean.

01:17:21.000 Of complete fractured identity, and the cake person has been going, That's what I meant by, sorry to interrupt.

01:17:27.000 It's going to be expanding complexity of nonsense.

01:17:30.000 It's the end of human nature, isn't it?

01:17:32.000 There's an important book from the last century by the Harvard biologist E.O.

01:17:37.000 Wilson.

01:17:37.000 It's called On Human Nature.

01:17:40.000 And he talks about human nature has certain parameters.

01:17:44.000 Now there's a variation within those parameters, but he says try to imagine a human being that decided, I'm going to be a toad.

01:17:53.000 Right?

01:17:53.000 He goes, but I mean, not just I identify like a toad, like I want to look like a toad or wear a toad costume or something, but I want to be a toad.

01:18:00.000 I am a toad. 0.52

01:18:01.000 In fact, I'm a toad in a human body. 0.95

01:18:04.000 I'm really a toad, but I'm in the wrong body.

01:18:06.000 He goes, you would have to go down to the creek and jump around in the water and eat what toads eat and be a toad.

01:18:15.000 Right?

01:18:16.000 Now, imagine if someone actually did that.

01:18:19.000 Now, I think most of us, at least the libertarian streak in us would be, that's interesting, let's go check that dude out, you know?

01:18:25.000 But it would be a whole different matter if that guy then began to demand that the whole of society recognize him as a toad, right?

01:18:36.000 And so this effort to not only say, my mind has given me this new identity, but I'm now insisting that you Subscribe to this, and you buy into my illusion, so to speak.

01:18:48.000 Yes.

01:18:49.000 This is where I think we go off the rails.

01:18:51.000 But where are we going?

01:18:52.000 If we do go into this metaverse, we had that Lex Fridman, Mark Zuckerberg interview, did you guys see it?

01:18:57.000 I think you pointed out where- I saw clips of it.

01:18:59.000 Where their animated CGI figures, it looks just like them, and they're talking from across the country, but they're in the same room sitting down, and you can see their bodies and face moving as if they're not, you know, it's real-time generation.

01:19:13.000 Here's what's going to happen.

01:19:14.000 You think it's absurd to recognize the toad person?

01:19:17.000 When the whole world is in the metaverse, you're going to walk into your business, you're going to put on your headset, and you're going to grab your controllers, haptic feedback or whatever, your avatar will be you!

01:19:27.000 Your regular old Dinesh!

01:19:28.000 Walking, you'll sit down at this table and be like, everybody ready for the production meeting?

01:19:31.000 And there will be a giant toad, and there will be a giant carrot person, and then there will be a Godzilla, and that's how they identify.

01:19:38.000 And so, the frog man will be like, I've been continuing to remind people that if you're a human man and you identify, whatever, as a woman, as a brick wall, you're both a woman and a human man. 0.75

01:19:48.000 You never stop becoming one.

01:19:49.000 You're still a human man that identifies as some other thing. 0.98

01:19:51.000 if you're a human man and you identify whatever as a woman is a brick wall 0.99

01:19:55.000 you're both a woman and a human man you never stop becoming one no silly human 0.97

01:20:01.000 man that identifies you don't become anything else well you identify as

01:20:04.000 something else but you never truly stop being a human man That's part of your experience.

01:20:09.000 Yes.

01:20:09.000 A human man who identifies as a carrot is still a human man who identifies as a carrot.

01:20:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:20:13.000 And you can be both.

01:20:14.000 There's an imprecision here, because the person who's saying that wants you to believe, even though they use the sly word identify, what they really mean is, I am a woman in the wrong body.

01:20:27.000 They're not saying, I am imagining myself to be a woman.

01:20:30.000 I'm a man who imagines myself to be a woman.

01:20:33.000 What they're saying is, I really am a woman, but I am, in a sense, I've been ascribed the wrong biology.

01:20:39.000 And that's why I have to undertake all these.

01:20:42.000 Surgeries and hormones and all this stuff.

01:20:44.000 This matters now, but when we are in a digital reality, there will be no question.

01:20:49.000 Because you'll be talking to, as far as you can tell, in virtual reality, a woman, and you'll have no idea that it's a middle-aged, morbidly obese man behind the screen.

01:20:59.000 It's the movie Surrogates with Bruce Willis.

01:21:03.000 This is the first thing they introduce.

01:21:04.000 It's like there's some hot woman and some dude at a club making out.

01:21:07.000 The movie is about people who use robots to pilot the world for them because it's safer.

01:21:12.000 And then when the person dies, the surrogate of the female dies, they're like, let's go track down the owner and see what happened.

01:21:20.000 They walk into this very beautiful apartment and there's a 500 pound man in the machine who's dead.

01:21:26.000 And they're like, that's her?

01:21:28.000 Yep.

01:21:29.000 That's great.

01:21:31.000 You get that a little bit in role-playing games, like World of Warcraft and stuff, where a dude chooses to play as a female half-elf, or a female night elf, and I'm like, well it's... But I don't see that as the same way.

01:21:41.000 It's a question of, when you play with dolls, are you controlling the doll, or are you becoming the doll?

01:21:47.000 And everybody kind of does it differently, right?

01:21:50.000 I do, yeah.

01:21:50.000 I don't become the... I mean, I guess you could pretend to be... You're making the characters, you're like, hello, I'm this guy!

01:21:56.000 Yeah, I'm this guy.

01:21:58.000 If you're playing in World of Warcraft and you're role-playing, and you're like, I would like to be a half-elf, half-elf female or whatever, people would get married... And not reality.

01:22:06.000 What's that?

01:22:07.000 You acknowledge it's a game and not reality because you're...

01:22:10.000 Playing it.

01:22:10.000 A game, right?

01:22:11.000 People will get married in the game?

01:22:13.000 Do you identify as your character, or is your character a thing you manipulate?

01:22:17.000 Yeah, but it was- you're right, because it was- some people were- I was just a manipulative character.

01:22:21.000 Some people, they started to identify, I think.

01:22:23.000 And then maybe it's psychoactives, maybe it's like pharma drugs that are making people at 12 years old not know reality from fiction.

01:22:29.000 No, I mean, it depends.

01:22:31.000 Some people Go into these games specifically to roleplay as a character that either is or is not themself.

01:22:37.000 But when I played World of Warcraft, I had like seven different, we called them toons.

01:22:40.000 And some were male and some were female.

01:22:42.000 It was just like action figures.

01:22:43.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 But it's, and then if someone asks you like, are you a girl?

01:22:46.000 And you're like, yes, that's when it goes a little crazy.

01:22:49.000 But we were on, what was it?

01:22:49.000 TeamSpeak.

01:22:50.000 And what was the other one?

01:22:50.000 Was it Vector or whatever?

01:22:52.000 Um, there's a lot of them.

01:22:53.000 Was it?

01:22:53.000 I think it was like VectorChat.

01:22:55.000 Yeah.

01:22:55.000 I mean, we, everybody knows who we are.

01:22:56.000 We're hanging out together and it's like, we're, I, it's like playing with action figures.

01:23:00.000 It's almost as if what's happening in our society is that at one level we're seeing increased clampdown, regimentation, control, governments, elites, and it's not just governments.

01:23:14.000 I mean our police state is a little bit unique in that it sprawls across the private sector too.

01:23:19.000 I mean think of censorship.

01:23:21.000 Censorship involves academia, It involves the media, it involves non-profit institutions, it involves the government and the digital platforms.

01:23:29.000 So an academic will make up a list, right?

01:23:32.000 And let's just say Tim Pool and I on the list.

01:23:33.000 Gotta ban these two guys. 0.91

01:23:35.000 That list will then be picked up by the Biden administration, which will then sort it.

01:23:39.000 Oh, Tim Pool is spreading lies about the election.

01:23:41.000 Send it over to CISA, the Cyber Security and Infrastructure Agency.

01:23:44.000 Dinesh is spreading lies about COVID.

01:23:47.000 Send him over to the CDC.

01:23:48.000 So all these agencies compile these lists, but then they don't want to explicitly censor because they might get caught.

01:23:54.000 So they hand it off to a middleman.

01:23:55.000 They go to the Stanford Internet Observatory or the Virality Project.

01:23:59.000 They go, guys, you take this list and you deliver it to the digital platforms.

01:24:04.000 So that way we're out of it.

01:24:06.000 So that they do the handoff, the digital platforms ban you, and the media cheers.

01:24:11.000 And they don't make any specific statements of fact.

01:24:14.000 That way they can't be sued.

01:24:16.000 So I actually dealt with this.

01:24:18.000 I think Stanford claimed that I was one of the largest Me and a few other people were the biggest promoters of disinformation during the 2020 election, which is the weirdest thing to say I did, because I have the most tepid opinions on these things.

01:24:30.000 And we use NewsGuard, which is Microsoft-funded.

01:24:35.000 They have a contract deal, so they're getting a lot of financing through a deal with Microsoft.

01:24:39.000 I put out a story where I'm like, hey look, local Fox outlet says X, and they're like, Tim Pool spreads disinformation.

01:24:44.000 You ask them where or how, they don't have to tell you, and they don't have to argue what is or isn't, and you can't zoom over it.

01:24:49.000 I mean, to me, the most creepy word that came out of the Twitter files was malinformation.

01:24:55.000 So malinformation is information that's true.

01:24:58.000 But harmful to the ideology of the regime.

01:25:02.000 Kind of something like, you can take the vaccine and you can still get COVID and you can still give COVID.

01:25:09.000 Well, people go, wait a minute, how is it a, quote, vaccine?

01:25:12.000 Vaccines, by definition, prevent you from getting it.

01:25:17.000 And so, that becomes malinformation.

01:25:19.000 It's not wrong, it's actually true, that's why they want to ban you.

01:25:22.000 At first it was, I think it was misinformation.

01:25:25.000 Right.

01:25:25.000 And they were like, some people are spreading information accidentally, incorrect.

01:25:28.000 Then it became disinformation.

01:25:29.000 That's like, now they're intentionally doing it, then malinformation.

01:25:32.000 It may be true, but it is bad for a lot of reasons.

01:25:36.000 Again, flashing back a generation, disinformation used to mean information that is deliberately false, that is put out by a government.

01:25:45.000 Soviet disinformation coming out through Pravda, Izvestia, all the Soviet propaganda.

01:25:50.000 But the idea that an ordinary individual debating a vaccine could be doing disinformation is absurd.

01:25:56.000 You can be misinformed.

01:25:58.000 You could be even malicious.

01:25:59.000 You could be lying.

01:26:01.000 But disinformation, again, that term was ripped out of its original context.

01:26:06.000 I mean, I would assume that a citizen could provide disinformation, as if they were a Soviet government.

01:26:14.000 Like, one brilliant guy that has access to a lot of data could definitely, with a lot of followers, could seed, like, a false narrative.

01:26:23.000 But the argument was that in a free marketplace of ideas, your peers could check you, they could challenge you, so the idea that you could monopolize disinformation, it wouldn't really work.

01:26:32.000 Whereas on the other hand, if a government was doing it, then they could sort of control the flow of it.

01:26:36.000 Here's the challenge.

01:26:38.000 Let's say the government releases an AI image, and then the people check that image and say, hey, wait a minute, this is AI generated.

01:26:45.000 Then, news organizations, through statements made by the government, confirm, actually, it's real.

01:26:51.000 And people just, what do you do?

01:26:52.000 You've got multiple news organizations and a government saying, actually, we checked, it's real, and users being like, we ran algorithms and said it's fake, people are gonna be, it's just nonsense world, there's nothing that's true anymore.

01:27:03.000 That's where we're entering.

01:27:05.000 We're here now, to some degree.

01:27:07.000 Think about how often we are told, who do you believe, us or your lying eyes?

01:27:11.000 So take January 6th.

01:27:13.000 Most of us had a pretty good view of what happened.

01:27:15.000 There was a lot of coverage of the event.

01:27:17.000 You could see, yeah, there was some episodic violence.

01:27:19.000 There were some clashes.

01:27:21.000 Some of it got pretty bad.

01:27:22.000 There were people who climbed through windows and up Up the banisters and so on.

01:27:26.000 At other stages, you have people wandering very carefully through the ropes, making sure not to deface or damage anything.

01:27:32.000 And so all of this was right there in front of you to see.

01:27:34.000 But then a whole manufactured narrative came up, which was quite different from what we saw, and the January 6th committee is, believe this, don't believe what you saw.

01:27:43.000 Yep.

01:27:44.000 I think of that with 9-11 too.

01:27:46.000 When I watch those buildings fall in near free fall speed, Well, you take a look at January 6th being a good example.

01:27:52.000 We did on this show, I think this was almost two years ago now.

01:27:55.000 I talked about how on January 6th, we would likely end up, with January 6th, we would likely end up seeing acquittals because you can't charge someone with trespass unless they've been warned they're trespassing.

01:28:06.000 And so the problem with January 6th is that many people arrived later on in the day when the fences were removed, the doors were opened by the police, and they walked in confused. 0.95

01:28:14.000 The young Turks, particularly Cenk Uygur, Made a clip insulting me, saying that's the stupidest argument ever, Tim Pool's a moron, as if these people are fighting with police and walking over broken glass and don't know they're trespassing.

01:28:28.000 You see, the problem was that Cenk and Anna did not actually know what happened on January 6th. 0.98

01:28:32.000 They had only seen what CNN wanted them to see, and they didn't know on the other side of the building, cops opened the door and fanned people in.

01:28:38.000 Well, sure enough, a couple months later, there was a hard acquittal.

01:28:42.000 One man argued to the judge, the police fanned me in.

01:28:45.000 The defense plays a video of the cops going like this and waving them in.

01:28:48.000 And the judge said, you are correct, sir.

01:28:49.000 You are free to go.

01:28:50.000 Case dismissed.

01:28:51.000 And that's not the only one.

01:28:52.000 Another man got acquitted on the trespass charge because the police... No, he got acquitted on a bunch of charges, including the trespass without warning.

01:29:02.000 But then he got a lighter charge because he climbed over a barricade later on or something to that effect.

01:29:07.000 There was like a half-acquittal.

01:29:08.000 Some of the charges got dropped because the police were seen fanning him in, but then later on he climbed past a barricade or something.

01:29:14.000 But we've seen several people get acquitted because the cops fanned him in.

01:29:18.000 If the Young Turks don't know this, then of course they're going to say, how could Tim say something like this?

01:29:23.000 The problem is, an inquisitive mind would say, wait, wait, wait, what is Tim Poole talking about?

01:29:27.000 People didn't know?

01:29:28.000 How is that possible?

01:29:29.000 Let me search for this.

01:29:31.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:29:32.000 I didn't realize the cops fanned people in. 0.94

01:29:34.000 This is one of the biggest challenges we face right now in the culture war is ignorant anger.

01:29:39.000 But it's even more than that now. 1.00

01:29:41.000 It's ignorant. 0.91

01:29:42.000 Like, I haven't seen all the videos coming out of Gaza or Israel. 0.99

01:29:45.000 So I'm ignorant.

01:29:45.000 I haven't.

01:29:46.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:29:48.000 But then I see videos that aren't real.

01:29:50.000 So I start to think that I have seen what's going on, but it didn't actually happen.

01:29:53.000 That's kind of even worse than not knowing.

01:29:55.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 Part of it is we have also been, you know, in a sphere of vast knowledge.

01:30:05.000 None of us can be in a position to know across the board, right?

01:30:08.000 And therefore, in a society, you trust institutions and authorities that have expertise in a particular area.

01:30:16.000 A classic example being the medical establishment.

01:30:19.000 Does this drug work?

01:30:20.000 Do I have these symptoms and what does it mean?

01:30:23.000 How long do I have to live, doctor?

01:30:24.000 You know?

01:30:25.000 And so, you defer to these authorities and we have been doing it.

01:30:30.000 But suddenly, a lot of these institutions, the FBI, the CDC, we've realized are not above lying to us bald-faced, and also not above the most nefarious motives.

01:30:44.000 Like, you know, here's Fauci, and he goes, oh, shoot.

01:30:49.000 This virus might have come out of the Wuhan lab. 0.93

01:30:52.000 I've been funding this gain-of-function research in North Carolina.

01:30:52.000 Guess what?

01:30:56.000 Those guys are working with the Wuhan lab.

01:30:58.000 I could be like Mengele.

01:31:00.000 I mean, I could be blamed for millions of people dying.

01:31:03.000 I got to make sure that people think this virus came out of a wet market nearby.

01:31:09.000 So then he calls up some researchers.

01:31:11.000 These are basically people on the government payroll, but they're world-class researchers.

01:31:14.000 And he says, you guys, I know you've got some doubts, but whip out a paper.

01:31:18.000 saying that the virus came out of a wet market.

01:31:21.000 And these guys are like, oh yeah, my grant's coming up for renewal.

01:31:24.000 Happy to do so, Mr. Fauci.

01:31:26.000 They show him the paper beforehand.

01:31:28.000 He knows all about it.

01:31:29.000 But then he goes to a press conference and he acts.

01:31:31.000 This is an Oscar-winning performance.

01:31:33.000 He goes, you know, I've just come across this important paper by these world-class virologists saying that the virus came from a wet market.

01:31:43.000 So, Fauci, what I'm getting at here is that police states, when they are under construction, when you're building them, you need a lot of subterfuge.

01:31:52.000 You need a lot of flim-flam, you need a lot of smoke and mirrors, you need a lot of lying.

01:31:56.000 Now, when you've got a full-fledged police state, you don't need any lying.

01:31:59.000 You just walk into a train station, grab a guy, you don't give him any reasons, you beat him over the head, he'll never be seen from again.

01:32:05.000 But while you're building the police state, you need to fool people.

01:32:08.000 And so that's what's going on.

01:32:10.000 And so I think that our distrust of these institutions is completely justified.

01:32:15.000 I wonder if we're seeing a shift.

01:32:17.000 Someone super chatted that, you know, even Dave Portnoy was supporting Nikki Haley.

01:32:21.000 And so I just looked and I see Dave Portnoy supporting Nikki Haley.

01:32:25.000 Yeah.

01:32:26.000 And the statement was Nikki Haley saying something like, when Israel moves into, invades Gaza, people are going to call for restraint.

01:32:33.000 But Hamas showed no restraint when they invaded Israel.

01:32:36.000 And Dave's like, I like Nikki more and more.

01:32:39.000 I'm wondering if what might happen, and there's a lot of bad things to this, but a lot of good.

01:32:43.000 Just hear me out.

01:32:44.000 It will be very bad if we get a fervent, zealous war machine emerging from what we're seeing.

01:32:49.000 But the potential good is that the anti-war faction, people with a more libertarian streak, become what the left used to be.

01:32:58.000 So what happens is the modern version of the identity left ceases to exist because of their overt support for terror.

01:33:05.000 And then what's left is the dominant factions in the culture war become moderate, libertarian-leaning, freedom-folks, anti-establishment, being like, hey, we don't want war, but we agree Hamas is bad. 0.94

01:33:16.000 No identity politics.

01:33:17.000 Versus, no identity politics, you're right about that, but we want to defend Israel and we want foreign intervention. 0.98

01:33:22.000 And so it reverts back to the old-school left and right of anti-war versus... I'm concerned that it would be an identitarian authoritarian party.

01:33:30.000 No, I'm saying that's dying out.

01:33:33.000 Tim is saying we might be able to root those guys out and replace them with a new two-party system in which you have sort of a pro-war authoritarian party and a more libertarian anti-war party.

01:33:48.000 I wouldn't say authoritarian.

01:33:49.000 I think pro-intervention versus anti-intervention.

01:33:51.000 I mean, we were talking earlier about Trump, and I think part of the ingenuity of Trump is that he was essentially, I don't want to get our country into a war, but I'm not against administering a well-deserved ass-kicking from time to time.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:34:10.000 And I think that's where most Americans are.

01:34:12.000 You know, Americans are like, look, we're not looking for a big ground war here, but on the other hand, there are really bad guys in the world, and we have to figure out ways to teach them a lesson.

01:34:23.000 amount of cocktail parties and quote negotiations and you know giving them money in pallets

01:34:29.000 is going to really do the job.

01:34:31.000 You have to hold them accountable.

01:34:33.000 I disagree. 0.99

01:34:34.000 I mean it wasn't so much an ass kicking, it was the threat of one by a crazy guy and you 0.98

01:34:40.000 know the thing about Donald Trump is that he's got 20 charisma so when he shows up and 0.98

01:34:49.000 he negotiates it actually starts getting things done.

01:34:52.000 You've got the Abraham Accords, despite the fact, you know, Max Blumenthal said he thought they were bad and they set up the situation we have now. 0.92

01:34:58.000 I'm not so sure I agree, but, you know, he's allowed to have his opinion, he's done a lot of research on the area, though he has his biases.

01:35:04.000 But what Max did agree with me on, he made a very funny joke, but I'll reserve that for his right to say.

01:35:09.000 I don't want to steal it from him.

01:35:11.000 But he said that he was very much impressed and grateful when he saw Trump negotiate with Kim Jong-un and cross the DMZ.

01:35:16.000 I said the same thing.

01:35:17.000 I said when I saw Donald Trump cross the demilitarized zone into North Korea with no security detail, I was near tears.

01:35:24.000 The American president The left will not accept this.

01:35:29.000 The liberals will not accept this.

01:35:30.000 Donald Trump risked his life entering an enemy country with their dictator because he wanted peace.

01:35:37.000 Could you imagine what North Korea could have done?

01:35:39.000 North Korea famously will snatch South Korean soldiers and pull them in.

01:35:44.000 Donald Trump willfully crossed over, and there's the famous photo in the video.

01:35:48.000 He goes up there, he shakes hands, they wave, he walks back.

01:35:51.000 A tremendous effort towards peace.

01:35:53.000 Amazing.

01:35:54.000 Donald Trump was doing... And I bet you that with a conventional State Department bureaucracy, they all begged him not to do it.

01:36:03.000 Yep.

01:36:03.000 They probably told him, do not do that.

01:36:06.000 What did the media say?

01:36:07.000 They said he's becoming friends with evil men and dictators, and it's just like...

01:36:11.000 Should we just go to war and drop bombs?

01:36:14.000 Well, the military-industrial complex would love that.

01:36:16.000 Now, I don't know about Blumenthal, but with regard to the Abraham Accords, in a weird way, you could say that they set up the current conflict, but not in the way I think that is normally meant.

01:36:26.000 They set up the current conflict in that they produced a fear in Hamas that Israel is now cutting deals.

01:36:33.000 That's what Mac said.

01:36:34.000 Oh yeah, okay.

01:36:35.000 And so, what happens is Hamas goes, we can't allow this to happen, so what we need to do is we need to do something really bad Which will then cause Israel to do something in retaliation that will then inflame the entire Muslim world and will crash down the Abrahamic Accords. 0.89

01:36:52.000 So this is not a critique of Trump.

01:36:54.000 In fact, it is essentially saying kind of what the left thinks.

01:36:57.000 We have to undo everything that Trump did.

01:37:00.000 And in a weird way, Hamas is trying to do that also.

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01:37:33.000 But we're going to read your Super Chats now.

01:37:35.000 Clint Torres wins the first Super Chat impressively at the 740 mark.

01:37:41.000 Wow.

01:37:42.000 So we click.

01:37:43.000 Craig's stream at 740, which gives a 20-minute buffer for the link to exist, and Clint, you've got the record.

01:37:50.000 Nailed it.

01:37:51.000 He says, howdy people!

01:37:52.000 Ian, happy to hear about your spiritual journey.

01:37:54.000 Might I recommend Bible in a Year podcast?

01:37:57.000 Tim, the podcast host father Mike Schmitz would be an awesome guest for y'all's religious debate.

01:38:02.000 Thank you.

01:38:02.000 Bible into your pockets.

01:38:03.000 I don't think we're doing a religious debate.

01:38:04.000 I think it's Seamus, it's Fresh, it's Ian, and it's going to be a conversation around religious ideas.

01:38:09.000 I think we're really fascinating.

01:38:10.000 I've been going live on Twitter.

01:38:12.000 I'm probably not going to be on later tonight, but it's been really great.

01:38:14.000 I was on for five hours last night.

01:38:15.000 We had like 2,000 people came through and 20 speakers or something.

01:38:19.000 It was great.

01:38:19.000 We also, I will say, the music setup for Friday Night Music is here, and we're getting ready for that to exist, which means we're gonna actually have musical guests, and then Friday nights... It's not just like, you know, back in the early days, we'd play music, we would just jam a couple songs on the acoustic guitar.

01:38:36.000 No, we're actually planning on asking, like, booking musicians, like...

01:38:39.000 Hiring them being like hey, we'll pay you X you've come on and then some people will just be guests on the show if

01:38:44.000 they're More politically minded and then we'll jam and play songs

01:38:46.000 do the song we're actually talking about We'll pay him like a rate to come and play a studio band

01:38:50.000 that can cover like any song would be so great because then we

01:38:53.000 Just do all sorts of covers you do a cover and then you instantly lose all monetization on the show

01:38:59.000 Guys, you have not been listening to your own comments about AI.

01:39:04.000 You don't need to hire any musicians.

01:39:05.000 You don't need any bands.

01:39:06.000 You don't need to pay anybody.

01:39:07.000 You can just generate it all.

01:39:09.000 Just stand there and move your hand like you're strumming and your mouth just, on camera, it looks like a clock.

01:39:13.000 In fact, you could be singing.

01:39:15.000 Well, I do.

01:39:16.000 I would just do it, but we could get Bucko or, you know, maybe RB3.

01:39:22.000 Rb3, he's looking healthy.

01:39:23.000 Rb3 is big.

01:39:25.000 He's bigger than Roberto Jr.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, it's Roberto Beaks III.

01:39:27.000 Okay, I was like, who's Rb3?

01:39:29.000 Rb3! 1.00

01:39:30.000 He's the new dude.

01:39:31.000 He's a handsome rooster.

01:39:34.000 All right.

01:39:35.000 Based Jew says, donate this to the Timcast X Miami Breakeven Fund.

01:39:40.000 So I'll mention that a lot of people super chatted saying they didn't realize that... Oh, did you see the other one down there?

01:39:46.000 Which one?

01:39:47.000 The other one, the guy that mentioned... I forgot where it was, but it was probably towards the bottom.

01:39:51.000 Right, there's a bunch of people, I don't know which one you're referring to, but there's a bunch of people who are saying like they didn't realize that the stream on YouTube was being ripped and taken from our website.

01:39:58.000 And so, and they're super chatting.

01:40:02.000 The general concept is, it is very, very difficult to do live events.

01:40:06.000 It is a tremendous amount of stress on everyone.

01:40:08.000 It makes people have to work extra hours and work double weekends.

01:40:12.000 So it's basically Monday through Friday is work.

01:40:15.000 Then first thing Saturday and Sunday you have to work.

01:40:18.000 Then Monday through Friday is the week of the event with non-stop work.

01:40:22.000 24, 16 hours a day because you are in a different city and you have to be working all the time.

01:40:28.000 Then Friday, it's another 16 hours.

01:40:30.000 Then Saturday is tear down and travel.

01:40:33.000 And then Sunday is return home.

01:40:35.000 And then Monday is work again.

01:40:36.000 So that's two weekends.

01:40:37.000 It is three straight weeks of nonstop work to do an event.

01:40:41.000 What we're looking at now is for, we're looking at Pittsburgh.

01:40:44.000 This is because Pittsburgh's so close, it's only about two and a half to three hours away from us.

01:40:47.000 We could literally just send out a crew Friday morning, everything's set up by a production company, and then we drive in that one day, and it makes it one day, and then that Saturday we're back and everything.

01:40:58.000 It's a lot easier to do.

01:40:59.000 Flying out requires us to build up a temporary studio in the city, and it's a nightmarishly stressful thing.

01:41:05.000 So the issue was someone went on, and this is funny, this is not a, this was not, my understanding is that it was not a new member, this was someone who was actually donating a larger sum of money, ripped the show and published it on YouTube for free, spiking it basically, because we were trying to do like, hey, become a member to watch this, it costs a lot of money, it's a lot of work, and we sacrificed a lot for it.

01:41:25.000 And then they basically spiked the show.

01:41:27.000 And the issue is, it's not so much about the money, it's about if we are not making it work, and we are losing money from it, I can't justify the level of stress on the crew and the people involved and I've already got some pushback saying we shouldn't I don't know if we should we should keep doing this maybe we'll just do it once a year or something whereas I'm trying to be like how do we make it once a month?

01:41:48.000 How do we do smaller events on the east coast we can drive to so we have once a month a lot easier and I'm already getting like hey man you probably shouldn't like there's nothing we can do to stop people from ripping the show and taking it and we're gonna keep losing money and stressing people out no one's gonna want to do it and so it's like We'll see what we can make happen.

01:42:06.000 I don't think, to be honest, having, like, more money come in changes the fact that people are stressed out by this, but I gotta be honest, when, after the show, like, right when I got off stage, they're like, oh, by the way, 14,000 people are watching live for free, just basically spiked the whole membership drive thing.

01:42:23.000 You now have demoralization and people being like, we shouldn't break our backs over this because we just got spiked, and it's like...

01:42:30.000 Well, okay, but we'll try and figure it out.

01:42:32.000 The alternative is, do we have to implement DRM on TimCast.com to make, yeah, so it's like if you try and screen grab, it just turns off or something.

01:42:41.000 And I'm like, that's so crazy, but that's why it exists.

01:42:44.000 The reality is this, a lot of people were like, you should have made it free, you should have given it away, and it's just like, okay, well then we'd stop doing it.

01:42:50.000 It's very difficult to do.

01:42:54.000 We're looking at other ways of making it feasible, and that would be, We're actually looking at like a bigger conference, doing like three days maybe, making bigger venues with multiple shows, because then it becomes something people really want to be at.

01:43:06.000 Still, the ticket sales are always going to be at that level, because it's just the only way you can do it.

01:43:10.000 Oh yeah, like $1,000 for a three-day weekend or something like that.

01:43:14.000 Yeah, like it was, I think it was like $150 for Austin, and we lost $20,000 or something doing it.

01:43:19.000 And then Miami was $175, and we only broke even because Public Square sponsored the show.

01:43:24.000 Shout out Public Square, you guys rock.

01:43:26.000 Thanks Mike.

01:43:26.000 Yeah, and so that that sponsorship base basically made it work if not for that it would have been like six figures

01:43:32.000 lost doing the event and It's it's a difficult thing to do. I like really hard

01:43:38.000 I like the weekend concept because the one of my favorite parts of the event was meeting people before and after the

01:43:42.000 show and the Networking and that was that was like four hours on

01:43:45.000 Saturday in the afternoon if we If we were doing like a daily, we had a conference center.

01:43:49.000 Like if we did a conference center, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and you could go hang out for six hours on Saturday, have lunch, meet tons of people, see them again Saturday night, see them again Sunday afternoon.

01:43:49.000 Saturday?

01:43:58.000 That would be, I think, a really great networking.

01:44:01.000 And so the challenge is, that means... But you'd be a thousand bucks a ticket.

01:44:04.000 Three weeks straight with no days off.

01:44:06.000 Yeah.

01:44:06.000 And it's not just that, it's 16 hours a day, every day.

01:44:09.000 Right.

01:44:09.000 Like, for me, particularly.

01:44:11.000 And then for everyone else, like, Carter went down and was doing it- Yeah, and back to, like, Tuesday.

01:44:15.000 Right.

01:44:16.000 So for him, it was even more.

01:44:18.000 And then we had to fly out, surge, like, what, twice?

01:44:20.000 Yeah, twice.

01:44:21.000 Because, like, it's a lot.

01:44:24.000 If we do Pittsburgh, it's like, you might drive out on Monday and check it out and then drive back.

01:44:27.000 It's a single-day thing.

01:44:28.000 It's so much easier.

01:44:29.000 It'll be a lot easier, yeah?

01:44:30.000 Oh, yeah!

01:44:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:31.000 I mean, it's smart that you guys are disclosing to people how all this stuff works.

01:44:36.000 We get the same thing with movies.

01:44:37.000 They're like, Dinesh, you should make 2,000 mules available for free.

01:44:41.000 I'm like, it cost me millions of dollars to make this movie.

01:44:44.000 I've tapped investors to do that.

01:44:46.000 I'm not even trying to make them richer with it.

01:44:48.000 I'm just trying to give them their money back so they'll give it back to me so I can do it again.

01:44:51.000 This is what I'm saying about the left.

01:44:54.000 Yeah.

01:44:54.000 narrative over the idea of profit is even prevalent on the right and the libertarian side.

01:44:59.000 No, no, no. First of all, I'll say this. As capitalists, I reserve the right to become wealthy off of a product I

01:45:04.000 produce.

01:45:05.000 That being said, I am ideologically driven.

01:45:08.000 What I want for these events, like when we lost money on Austin, I was like,

01:45:11.000 hey, that's cool though, man. We did something really important.

01:45:14.000 We still need to be able to keep doing it.

01:45:16.000 So I'm like, break even, you know, like we break even, we're good.

01:45:19.000 But when someone goes on the website, restreams it on Twitch and YouTube, and then we can't make our money back, you get people being like, why did, like, did we lose a bunch of money on this?

01:45:30.000 And I'm like, I think we theoretically could have lost between like 100K and a million bucks based on how this ripped us off.

01:45:37.000 Because like, imagine this, 14,000 people watching, If all 14,000 signed up at 10 bucks a month, you're looking at over a million bucks in the year if they remain members for a year.

01:45:47.000 Now, the reality is most people would sign up for the month and then cancel right away because they want to watch one event.

01:45:51.000 That's a $10 ticket.

01:45:52.000 So you're talking about 140 grand at minimum that could have been made, and all of that money goes right back into our events company that pays the salary and the ongoing costs of running events.

01:46:03.000 We're trying to make... So we have a company that runs events that we've created.

01:46:07.000 It has staff, and we're trying to make that company functional.

01:46:10.000 For now, it is losing money and I'm putting my money into it to get it going.

01:46:15.000 With the Miami event, thanks to Public Square, we just about broke even.

01:46:19.000 But understand, that means I worked two extra weekends and I personally got nothing from it.

01:46:27.000 Other than, the way I describe it is, if I won the lottery and someone said, what would you buy with all that money?

01:46:33.000 If you could buy anything, what would you buy?

01:46:34.000 I'd say win the culture war. 0.96

01:46:35.000 True.

01:46:35.000 That's it.

01:46:36.000 So, like, that's it.

01:46:38.000 The challenge is, like, the physical and mental stress, and then, people notice this, because I went on PBD Saturday, Saturday morning.

01:46:46.000 Patrick, but David came on, and he did the event with us.

01:46:48.000 We're entirely grateful.

01:46:48.000 He stole the show with his great speech, his standing ovation, and they asked if I would do his show.

01:46:52.000 Absolutely.

01:46:53.000 Reciprocity.

01:46:54.000 And fresh and fit, I made a promise I'd be on their show, but you could tell I was dead by the time I was on Fresh and Fit.

01:46:58.000 Dude, Fresh and Fit's hilarious, because you're like staring off while Luke's giving his intro, thinking about Baldur's Gate, probably.

01:47:02.000 I was like, he's thinking about Baldur's Gate right now.

01:47:03.000 No, my brain was going...

01:47:05.000 I was like after two weeks of non-stop work and sign this paper and sign this paper and this one got rejected now way to get multiple forms notarized to be able to do it like the Florida government and making us do tax stuff by the time I'm there I'm just like I'm just like seeing weird shapes and there's like you know I'm just hallucinating there's so much that goes into it and you guys know if you pay money towards it gets better and then it gets cooler and you can meet us and stuff and blah blah blah it just gets better it's the only thing that happens We'll read some more.

01:47:28.000 We got Andrew Lingnell says, I think you inspired Meet Kevin to do a TimCast-style YouTube live channel.

01:47:34.000 Must have been all these superchats giving him a good impression.

01:47:36.000 He ain't TimCast, though.

01:47:38.000 I mean, everybody's doing a live stream, though.

01:47:41.000 I do think it's funny when I meet people and they're like, hey, I'm doing a new live show, but don't worry, it's not at 8pm.

01:47:45.000 And I'm like, bro, there's a million live streams.

01:47:48.000 But there's a lot of people, I guess, are worried.

01:47:51.000 When we first started the show, Crowder was doing Thursday night live streams, and it was painfully obvious.

01:47:56.000 We'd get like, you know, 50,000, 50,000, 50,000, 37,000, 50,000.

01:48:01.000 And it was like, when Crowder came on, a large portion went to watch Crowder instead.

01:48:05.000 When Crowder switched to morning shows, we get a consistent spike in viewership.

01:48:09.000 So I think a lot of people are just like, what's the point of launching a live show at the same time as IRL, when it's just like, people are going to leave my show to watch that.

01:48:18.000 But you just got to do your thing.

01:48:19.000 You don't gotta, like, look.

01:48:20.000 Tucker Carlson goes on at the same time.

01:48:22.000 Wait, he used to be on at the same time as us.

01:48:24.000 It is what it is.

01:48:24.000 Some people choose to watch it, they don't.

01:48:27.000 Alright, here we go.

01:48:28.000 Fix Bayonet says, 2000 meals was awesome.

01:48:30.000 Will you look into Obama's chef?

01:48:32.000 Buck buck for Miami.

01:48:35.000 I mean this is a case where... I mean for a while there we were getting the kind of Clinton body count of all the people mysteriously dropping dead who had some questionable association with the Clintons and now with Obama we've got these... and I haven't really looked very closely at all this but there's been a guy on social media who keeps releasing documents, police reports and things Basically, making the thing seem really pretty fishy and leaving the idea that the Obamas might have had something to do with this.

01:49:07.000 Now, I will say, I do think Obama is, to this day, the most protected man in America.

01:49:14.000 Even more than Biden.

01:49:15.000 Because even with Biden, you get the impression that the left is sort of... their view on him is, listen, as long as you're willing to sit in the canoe and do your part, we'll row the boat for you.

01:49:26.000 But there's a little bit of a conditionality there.

01:49:28.000 If things get out of hand and if somehow there's a smoking gun and you got the Chinese money going right, it says Joe Biden on the check, you know, we're out of here.

01:49:37.000 But with Obama, it's almost like, no, we have a pact.

01:49:40.000 We will protect you no matter what.

01:49:41.000 You're America's first black president.

01:49:43.000 We cannot.

01:49:44.000 So the level of protection of that guy is unbelievable.

01:49:48.000 Ugly Truth says, Hamas fighting Israel is like throwing a rock at a tank.

01:49:52.000 This was their only way to make a statement.

01:49:55.000 Wow!

01:49:56.000 So they went and killed civilians and kidnapped them to make a statement.

01:49:59.000 The funny thing is, I already stated this, if Hamas broke the fence down, Landed with paragliders in the music festival, rounded up all the civilians and said, everyone, make it back to your cars now before the conflict starts. 0.76

01:50:10.000 We don't want civilians here. 1.00

01:50:12.000 There's a military operation.

01:50:14.000 Go, go, go, go, go.

01:50:15.000 And started fanning people to their cars and all the civilians drove out and left.

01:50:18.000 They went to the porta-potties and knocked and said, a military operation is underway.

01:50:22.000 We need civilians to leave now, now, now. 1.00

01:50:24.000 Went to the kibbutzes and says, everyone remain calm. 0.67

01:50:26.000 Stay in your homes.

01:50:27.000 We're not going to be entering your homes.

01:50:29.000 That's sending a message.

01:50:31.000 Paragliding in and ushering civilians out and asserting military control over an area without harming anybody is a message.

01:50:40.000 Killing civilians is... You call that a message?

01:50:44.000 They're basically saying, we want to lose this conflict and we want everyone to hate our guts. 0.94

01:50:48.000 Israel's message is, we will minimize civilian casualties, but we must target these military bases and these weapons depots. 0.93

01:50:56.000 I don't think that they have a minimize civilian casualty Israel outright says... I'm not saying that they follow it.

01:51:03.000 I'm saying Israel's PR strategy is to, in every way, say we seek to minimize civilian casualties.

01:51:11.000 Hamas's strategy is to outright parade videos of them holding children hostages.

01:51:15.000 Like...

01:51:17.000 It's just that.

01:51:18.000 I mean, I think for the Israelis it's not only the moral thing to do, but it's actually the prudent thing to do, because there are all these international organizations that are actually waiting to pounce on Israel. 0.85

01:51:28.000 They're just waiting to be able to show that there is a moral equivalence between what the Israelis are doing and what the Hamas guys are doing. 0.92

01:51:35.000 That's the next shoe to drop.

01:51:38.000 And so the Israelis, to the degree they can, have got to be really careful to say, we are hitting military targets, there might be some civilian casualties, But we're not aiming at the civilians.

01:51:48.000 They just announced they were going to, for the people of northern Gaza, to evacuate to the south.

01:51:52.000 And then people were like, please don't start a ground invasion.

01:51:54.000 The Americans were like, we are officially requesting that you do not start the ground invasion.

01:51:58.000 The UN's like, do not start a ground invasion right now.

01:52:00.000 Because I agree, if the Israelis go in there and start massacring women and kids and kids on their bikes, the whole world's going to go to war with them. 0.99

01:52:08.000 It's war. 0.94

01:52:08.000 They're going to do it. 0.94

01:52:09.000 Well, then the whole world's going to attack them.

01:52:12.000 Well, not the whole world, half the world.

01:52:13.000 I- I- It could be World War III.

01:52:15.000 It's- But- But this- If they go- If they go slaughter a million people, dude, what- That's like Nazi-level stuff.

01:52:19.000 What- What doesn't- Here's what doesn't matter, right?

01:52:22.000 Israel knows who their allies are, and they need only convince moderate-leaning allied nations.

01:52:31.000 Russia is not going to align itself with Israel.

01:52:34.000 Iran is not going to align itself with Israel.

01:52:36.000 If Hamas went in and- Hamas literally went and killed civilians, and Iran is still defending Palestine. 0.88

01:52:42.000 It doesn't matter.

01:52:44.000 If Israel goes in and starts- Israel right now is bombing Gaza.

01:52:48.000 And the West will still defend Israel, and Eastern nations will still defend the Palestinians in Gaza. 0.61

01:52:54.000 My concern is I don't think you can defend against drone swarms and nuclear weapons. 0.51

01:52:57.000 You can kind of blow them up in the sky, but it's one of those things where the attackers are the ones that are going to win.

01:53:02.000 The defenders are all going to get destroyed.

01:53:05.000 Maybe it's hyperbolic, but it's like a war where only offense, offense, offense, offense.

01:53:12.000 I was just going to say that I think the reason that Netanyahu was very careful to sort of insist that this is a declaration of war is because when you declare war, you remove the old logic

01:53:22.000 of proportionality.

01:53:23.000 The logic of proportionality is, your tribe came over to my tribe and killed 10 people, 0.99

01:53:28.000 so I'm only allowed now to come to your tribe and kill 10 people. 0.98

01:53:31.000 I can't come and kill 100 people because that's disproportionate to what you did. 0.99

01:53:35.000 Right? But think of the Pearl Harbor example.

01:53:38.000 The Japanese attack us in Pearl Harbor.

01:53:40.000 We didn't say, OK, well, there were 8000 people killed at Pearl Harbor. 0.99

01:53:44.000 We're going to make sure we kill 8000, but no more than 8000 Japanese. 1.00

01:53:47.000 We were like, OK, you did this. 1.00

01:53:49.000 It's an act of war.

01:53:51.000 And now all bets are off.

01:53:52.000 That's kind of what the Israelis are saying.

01:53:54.000 Let's read this one from TakeVideo, he says, Tim plays Civilization peacefully on Prince difficulty, but on Immortal or Deity, or in PvP, you would lose without violence.

01:54:03.000 I don't know if this reflects real life.

01:54:06.000 Incorrect, but close.

01:54:07.000 I play on King difficulty.

01:54:10.000 Whenever I play games, like even Baldur's Gate, I always just play the middle.

01:54:13.000 And so, I actually, I was like, Prince difficulty, it's been a long time since I played Civ 2.

01:54:18.000 But no, like, King was the middle of the road, like, normalized one.

01:54:22.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:54:23.000 And then the rest were like easy to hard, but immortal or deity, I think you are correct.

01:54:27.000 But those are like overly aggressive where they give military bonuses to the AI and stuff like that.

01:54:31.000 PvP you're correct about.

01:54:33.000 But when I play Civilization, I didn't say that I was just peacefully minding my own business, for the most part.

01:54:39.000 What I said was, I would focus on developing my country's technology to become superior, and then anyone who came at me would get stamped out or crushed immediately, but I was never the aggressor.

01:54:51.000 It was always like, I'm minding my own business, leave me the eff alone.

01:54:54.000 And then as soon as I tried to attack, I just... And then one thing I really loved doing...

01:54:59.000 Was if I was playing peacefully in Mining Mound Business and Civilization 2, and then for some reason, just like an opposing nation decided to just come down on me, I would just cheat, give myself one nuke, and then blow up one of their cities and be like, back to Mining Mound Business.

01:55:11.000 I am God here.

01:55:13.000 Don't you come at me, France! 0.99

01:55:14.000 I have found that on the hardest difficulty, you have to go to war in that game.

01:55:18.000 Often.

01:55:19.000 Yeah.

01:55:19.000 Well, you don't get a choice.

01:55:20.000 I mean, it's an amazing video game.

01:55:24.000 When you have a nation and another country says, in the more modern, the later civils, I think, what, Civ VI?

01:55:30.000 Yeah.

01:55:30.000 I think I played V. I don't know if I played VI.

01:55:32.000 But if you have uranium in your country, and oil, and other countries don't, you have nukes and they don't.

01:55:37.000 They are going to send a ground invasion to try and take that uranium from you. 0.89

01:55:41.000 You're at war, whether you want to be or not.

01:55:44.000 Alright, where we at?

01:55:47.000 Zyphos says, the 2003 East Coast power outage was an accident from a fighter jet equipped with a weapon to shut down grids.

01:55:54.000 All our enemies know this.

01:55:55.000 Is that true?

01:55:55.000 I never heard that.

01:55:56.000 That's a new one.

01:55:57.000 Yeah.

01:55:58.000 Never heard that one before.

01:56:02.000 Let's read some more then.

01:56:03.000 I don't know if somebody... Weston Kramer says, the people who voted for these policies in the cities are like the peasant in Monty Python.

01:56:09.000 Help, help, I'm being oppressed.

01:56:10.000 It was repressed.

01:56:11.000 Help, help, I'm being repressed.

01:56:13.000 That was really, really funny.

01:56:14.000 That was one of the best scenes ever.

01:56:16.000 He's like, where's your king?

01:56:17.000 And they're like, we don't have a king.

01:56:20.000 We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune or something like that.

01:56:23.000 They're so ahead of their time, you don't even realize it's 50 years later.

01:56:26.000 No, he's like, I am your king.

01:56:28.000 And they're like, I don't remember voting for you.

01:56:31.000 He's like, we don't vote for a king!

01:56:32.000 He's like, the lady in the lake gave me a sword and declared that I, King Arthur, and I was like, a lady?

01:56:38.000 What did he say, like a woman distributing swords is no basis for a system of governance? 0.99

01:56:43.000 Yeah, for a system of governance, yeah, it's so good.

01:56:44.000 My favorite was, name one thing that the Romans gave us!

01:56:48.000 That's a long pause.

01:56:52.000 Roads.

01:56:52.000 Apart from roads, name one thing that the Romans gave us!

01:56:56.000 Laws.

01:56:57.000 Apart from roads and laws!

01:57:01.000 It's really amazing how great they were and where they are today.

01:57:05.000 South Park is doing a special where they race and gender swapped the main characters.

01:57:10.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.

01:57:11.000 Cartman's a black woman now. 0.99

01:57:12.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:57:14.000 Is that supposed to be released?

01:57:15.000 I haven't actually seen it.

01:57:16.000 My sister sent me today.

01:57:17.000 Oh, it's out?

01:57:18.000 Well, she sent me the preview.

01:57:20.000 Okay, that's what I've seen.

01:57:21.000 I'm not sure when it's coming.

01:57:22.000 A watery tart was the witch. 0.91

01:57:24.000 Apparently the woman that gave him the sword was a watery tart. 0.99

01:57:27.000 That was the line you were looking for in Monty Python.

01:57:29.000 Alright, AngryMarsupial says, at Gettysburg, breach loaders only figured into the first day when Buford's cavalry held off a 3x force due to fire superiority.

01:57:38.000 Infantry was issued muzzle loaders on both sides, tactics and numbers won.

01:57:42.000 Yes, that is true.

01:57:43.000 Um, I watch- you go to Gettysburg, it's amazing.

01:57:45.000 Gettysburg is like 40 minutes away from here, and it is just one of- not only is there awesome food there, but there's tons of haunted houses.

01:57:51.000 Oh, nice.

01:57:52.000 Great chocolate- chocolatories, or whatever.

01:57:54.000 Uh, Gettysburg is a lot of fun.

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:57.000 You know, go there and learn your history.

01:57:58.000 We went to a couple little antique stores and they have real cannonballs.

01:58:02.000 And they have a whole bunch of antique weapons.

01:58:03.000 I mean, the old quarters where doctors would amputate legs and the blood was seeping through the floors.

01:58:11.000 I mean, it is very haunting and brings the reality of Gettysburg.

01:58:15.000 It's amazing.

01:58:15.000 I think the crazy thing is that they had repeaters during the Civil War, but they weren't widespread.

01:58:20.000 But man, could you imagine being commissioned a repeater?

01:58:24.000 It's like, I think they loaded through the stock.

01:58:28.000 Because I went to the antique store and they had a bunch and they like the back opens and you push them in the back and then you lever action.

01:58:34.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 Man.

01:58:36.000 What were those?

01:58:37.000 What was it?

01:58:38.000 Henry?

01:58:40.000 What was the company that did that?

01:58:41.000 The repeater was, I think, I want to say Colt.

01:58:44.000 No, was it?

01:58:45.000 That's a revolver.

01:58:46.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:58:47.000 First repeating rifle?

01:58:48.000 Is that what it was?

01:58:49.000 Yeah.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, I think it's a repeating rifle.

01:58:50.000 Spencer?

01:58:51.000 It was a Spencer?

01:58:51.000 Spencer repeating rifle?

01:58:52.000 Was that the first one?

01:58:54.000 No Winchester?

01:58:56.000 Winchester repeater.

01:58:56.000 Winchester, yeah.

01:58:58.000 How did I miss that?

01:59:00.000 Yeah, I have a repeater.

01:59:02.000 He made improvements to the Henry rifle.

01:59:04.000 Oh, right.

01:59:05.000 Was it the Henry repeater?

01:59:07.000 I suppose so.

01:59:08.000 I'm not sure how far back it goes.

01:59:09.000 I think the improvement Winchester made was the little lever action with the handle like this.

01:59:12.000 Lever action?

01:59:12.000 What was the Henry then?

01:59:13.000 I... Pfft.

01:59:14.000 Beats me, man.

01:59:15.000 You know what?

01:59:15.000 I really don't like the tube mags.

01:59:17.000 I like the side load.

01:59:19.000 Where you push them in.

01:59:19.000 There's like a spring-loaded little latch and you push them in the side.

01:59:21.000 Right, right.

01:59:22.000 Because the tube mag... It's... You can't... So I got a 30-30 repeater and it's like... You can't get the... You can't get it to close.

01:59:29.000 It's super annoying.

01:59:31.000 But anyway, we'll grab a couple more Super Chats.

01:59:35.000 Alright.

01:59:36.000 What do we have?

01:59:37.000 Brett ain't dead says Terminator epic 2001 a space odyssey life-changing everyone should watch and contemplate man's origins and future truly ahead of its time.

01:59:46.000 Very cool.

01:59:48.000 Seriously says science fiction becomes science fact.

01:59:51.000 And it's probably gonna be cra- more, like, crazier than we even realize.

01:59:55.000 Jeff Sumner says, big fan of Timcast, love you guys.

01:59:57.000 Ian, I gotta say, you pray through Jesus to God, the only way to the Father is through the Song.

02:00:02.000 Read the Bible, start with the Gospel of John.

02:00:04.000 It was written for the new believers and those who don't know anyway.

02:00:08.000 Love you, brother.

02:00:09.000 Oh, thanks, man.

02:00:10.000 I gotta say, watching The Passion was fascinating, because I never watched it until a few months ago, and the politics of the story is what I found truly fascinating.

02:00:18.000 I mean, for a lot of people I'm sure it's like divine inspiration, you're watching the story of the Christ, but watching the politics of, you know, Rome and the Jewish leaders and the followers of Christ, it's a fascinating political story.

02:00:31.000 Have you seen it?

02:00:32.000 You should watch it.

02:00:33.000 The riveting thing about this is also the historicity.

02:00:38.000 Only in the last few years has there now been archaeological evidence, medallion evidence,

02:00:43.000 stones validating not only the Hebrew scriptures but the Christian scriptures.

02:00:49.000 So, for example, Pontius Pilate.

02:00:50.000 Until about a few years ago, Pontius Pilate was not believed to be a historical person.

02:00:56.000 Really?

02:00:56.000 There was no existing record of anyone named Pontius Pilate in any of the annals of histories that have come down.

02:01:03.000 And then they dig up a stone, and right on there it says, Pontius Pilate.

02:01:08.000 The exact words.

02:01:09.000 And people are like, whoa.

02:01:11.000 You know, and right now in Israel they're digging up a large pool called the Pool of Siloam.

02:01:15.000 Now this is the pool where the Jews bathed ritually before walking to the temple. 0.89

02:01:21.000 So think about it, this large pool, which is an Olympic-sized swimming pool basically, Jesus of Nazareth would have had to have bathed in that pool because we know that he went to the temple and walked that exact road.

02:01:34.000 And this is not, again, a matter of probability.

02:01:36.000 They debate whether the crucifixion occurred over here or did it occur over there.

02:01:39.000 All right, but there's certain facts that are coming out to light that are now absolutely indisputable.

02:01:44.000 Right.

02:01:45.000 And it's a very eerie experience to be in Jerusalem right now.

02:01:49.000 Wow.

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02:03:15.000 You guys follow me anywhere on the internet at Ian Crossland.

02:03:18.000 I think I'm gonna go on the Discord later, so I'm gonna meet up with everybody behind the scenes.

02:03:21.000 Let's get down, let's talk.

02:03:22.000 Probably about 10.30.

02:03:23.000 Raymond G. Stanley, I see you out there.

02:03:25.000 I'll connect with you later, and then I'll be jumping in about 10.30, and I'll probably only be on for a half hour.

02:03:30.000 I gotta get up early.

02:03:31.000 Which means if you want to yell at Ian, or praise him, become a member at TimCast.com.

02:03:37.000 The instructions for the Discord are there, and Ian will be hanging out.

02:03:39.000 See you soon!

02:03:40.000 Yeah, Carter, I'm excited to hear the music.

02:03:42.000 I'm also really excited to do the music in general on Fridays.

02:03:46.000 It's going to be sweet.

02:03:46.000 You guys are going to like it.

02:03:47.000 We did all the cameras and the mics and stuff.

02:03:49.000 We're ready to go.

02:03:50.000 We just need to wait for the right time, basically.

02:03:52.000 Well, I mean, maybe even next week.

02:03:55.000 The issue is right now, it's like, we want to do it right, so I want to have a good kickoff and get an actual group to do an acoustic set.

02:04:03.000 And then we'll figure it out, but I don't think it'll be every weekend.

02:04:06.000 It'll be when possible.

02:04:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:04:08.000 It's not just going to be like me or Ian just jamming, but we want to get like real musicians and artists.

02:04:14.000 Like, not that we're not, but... We're just not practiced.

02:04:17.000 We'll practice musicians.

02:04:18.000 I mean, we want to make it a show.

02:04:20.000 We want it to be like, hey, we have an acoustic performance from Insert Band.

02:04:24.000 Not just, oh, Tim and Ian are jamming again.

02:04:25.000 It's getting to the point where we could just go live anytime.

02:04:28.000 That's awesome.

02:04:29.000 And then what we're going to do is, we're going to put the clips from IRL of the music performances on the TimCast music channel.

02:04:35.000 Yeah, that'll be sweet.

02:04:36.000 So, it'll all be there.

02:04:37.000 Yeah, but I'm Serge.com, pleasure meeting you, Dinesh.

02:04:39.000 My mom's a big fan.

02:04:41.000 And I will see you guys on the next one.

02:04:44.000 We will see you all Monday!

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 13, 2023

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