Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - James O'Keefe Video LEAKED, CONFIRMS He's Been OUSTED w-Steve Deace

00:00:00.000 James O'Keefe, a former military veteran,

00:00:04.000 was a member of the United States Army

00:00:08.000 and served in the United States Army

00:00:12.000 for over 20 years.

00:00:14.000 He was a member of the United States Army

00:00:18.000 and served in the United States Army

00:00:22.000 for over 20 years.

00:00:24.000 He was a member of the United States Army

00:00:28.000 for over 20 years.

00:00:30.000 James O'Keefe has given a speech to

00:00:34.000 I guess the staff at the Veritas offices

00:00:38.000 confirming that he was removed from the CEO and from the board.

00:00:42.000 He entered into the office and removed his personal belongings.

00:00:45.000 That's what the reports are saying.

00:00:47.000 And Project Veritas has released a statement accusing him of what appears to be financial malfeasance.

00:00:52.000 Which I do not believe for a moment.

00:00:56.000 And one of the things they complained about, Project Veritas, the board, I guess, accusing James, was that he used money for, like, funny dance videos or events or something like this.

00:01:07.000 And they called it, like, him misappropriating funds.

00:01:10.000 Well, I want to make sure I'm using the specific words they used, but I'll just put it this way.

00:01:15.000 I like that Project Veritas does dance events.

00:01:18.000 I like that James O'Keefe is this figure, is this character that brings life and a bit of levity to the work they do.

00:01:26.000 And apparently that's not good enough for the board, so for this reason they've removed him and are now, I believe, lying about what's going on.

00:01:33.000 Look, man, James O'Keefe is the founder and CEO of Project Veritas.

00:01:37.000 He's done tremendous work.

00:01:38.000 The idea that Veritas can exist without him is laughable.

00:01:42.000 And so, we're going to get into this.

00:01:43.000 There's a lot to go through.

00:01:44.000 Apparently, on Twitter, they've already lost around 140,000 followers.

00:01:48.000 People are just ditching, saying, no way.

00:01:51.000 Several major media figures have come out saying, I'm not going to support Project Veritas.

00:01:56.000 So, we'll talk about that.

00:01:58.000 Plus, we've got some other interesting stories.

00:02:00.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene has officially called for a national divorce.

00:02:04.000 Okay, I mean, there's an interesting conversation to be had, one that we've had quite a bit, but, you know, you guys ready to drink Civil War, I guess?

00:02:12.000 I don't know how you get a member of Congress saying national divorce.

00:02:14.000 This idea is expanding, okay?

00:02:17.000 And more and more people are talking about it.

00:02:18.000 And I know people think that a national divorce is some kind of peaceful thing, but I don't see how it can go any other way than Civil War. 0.88

00:02:24.000 But hey, maybe it won't be Civil War because the other thing we talk about a lot is World War III.

00:02:27.000 Zelensky says that if China and Russia team up, it's World War 3.

00:02:31.000 Meanwhile, like, I don't know, everybody else is already saying, yo, it already started.

00:02:35.000 50 to 100 years from now, when we're all living in rubble and nuclear wasteland, we'll be like, it all started with the Ukraine and Russia. 0.96

00:02:43.000 No one's going to be waiting until Russia teams up with China.

00:02:47.000 So we'll get into all that.

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00:03:17.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Steve Dace.

00:03:22.000 Happy to be here, man.

00:03:23.000 I've heard a ton about your show.

00:03:25.000 I've seen a lot of your episodes, especially in the last 24 hours.

00:03:28.000 Everybody warned me you guys like to do snotty gotcha questions.

00:03:32.000 I freaking love snotty gotcha questions.

00:03:34.000 Why did you wear that shirt anyway?

00:03:35.000 Exactly.

00:03:37.000 Because you wear plaid to hopefully distract people from everything else that you visually bring to the table.

00:03:43.000 See, anything you do to try to corner me, I will put myself down even more.

00:03:46.000 So I'm ready to go.

00:03:48.000 So for those that don't know you, who are you?

00:03:49.000 What do you do?

00:03:50.000 I work over at The Blaze.

00:03:53.000 When I was growing up, one of the most coveted TV slots you wanted was after Cheers.

00:03:57.000 That's where Seinfeld debuted, NewsRadio debuted, because After Cheers was on, I mean, you're going to have to really suck not to hold the audience, right?

00:04:05.000 So I get to do the show at The Blaze after Glenn Beck, right?

00:04:08.000 So it's really hard to not be successful.

00:04:11.000 You just, you know, just try to hold on to as much of his audience as you possibly can, and I'm barely hanging on.

00:04:17.000 And so they were dumb enough to sign me to a contract extension for another three years back in January. 0.91

00:04:22.000 You pulled a fast one on those guys. 0.98

00:04:23.000 I did.

00:04:24.000 Or no one else wanted the gig.

00:04:25.000 One of the two, yes.

00:04:26.000 There you go.

00:04:26.000 Yes.

00:04:27.000 Right on.

00:04:27.000 All right, this should be fun.

00:04:28.000 So thanks for joining us.

00:04:29.000 You bet.

00:04:29.000 Have a blast.

00:04:30.000 We got Hannah-Claire Brimlow hanging out.

00:04:31.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:04:32.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:04:34.000 You should definitely follow TimCast News on Twitter and Instagram.

00:04:37.000 They are excellent platforms to get your news from, as I've heard.

00:04:40.000 I just want to point out, I think it's funny that you're wearing an American flag under your sweater and behind you.

00:04:45.000 Yes.

00:04:46.000 That's the wood one.

00:04:46.000 This is the knit one.

00:04:47.000 I just want you guys to know that I am definitely from America.

00:04:50.000 Don't question it.

00:04:51.000 Aren't you Canadian?

00:04:52.000 By birth?

00:04:52.000 I was born here.

00:04:53.000 Stop questioning my anchor baby life.

00:04:55.000 I got problems.

00:04:56.000 No.

00:04:56.000 And one of them is the military-industrial complex.

00:04:58.000 Maybe we'll talk about that tonight.

00:05:00.000 Steve, also writer, director, or I guess director?

00:05:03.000 Producer.

00:05:03.000 Producer as well.

00:05:04.000 Executive producer of Nefarious, upcoming?

00:05:06.000 Comes out in theaters on April the 14th.

00:05:08.000 You can go to the website whoisnefarious.com.

00:05:11.000 We actually pulled it off.

00:05:12.000 We made a right-wing horror film.

00:05:15.000 They said it couldn't be done, or maybe no one's ever actually tried it before.

00:05:19.000 We, I think, pulled it off.

00:05:20.000 We showed it to some of your people earlier today, and man, I got some really cool feedback.

00:05:24.000 So whoisnefarious.com is the website, and if you're gonna let me shill, then we've got a brand new book out, Rise of the Forthright Confronting COVID Fascism with a New Nuremberg Trial.

00:05:35.000 So this never happens again.

00:05:37.000 We fashioned this book like a mock Nuremberg trial.

00:05:40.000 We have witnesses.

00:05:41.000 Everybody's on the record.

00:05:42.000 We have every interview recorded.

00:05:44.000 Whistleblowers from the Department of Defense, healthcare sector, people whose family members were medically kidnapped or allowed to die in hospitals, denied of treatment. 0.86

00:05:52.000 This book is going to blow your freaking mind. 0.89

00:05:55.000 And if you were not already paranoid, if you were not already pissed, okay? 0.90

00:05:58.000 If your blood was not already clotting, it'll be boiling when you read this book.

00:06:03.000 Oh, wow.

00:06:03.000 All right.

00:06:04.000 We got Serge pressing the buttons.

00:06:06.000 Yo, what's up everyone?

00:06:07.000 Serge.com.

00:06:08.000 Ready to start when you are.

00:06:09.000 Let's jump into this first story we got us from TimCast.com exclusive video.

00:06:12.000 James O'Keefe tells Project Veritas staff, I've been removed from CEO and board.

00:06:18.000 I have been stripped of my authority as CEO and removed from the board contrary to what any public statements may say.

00:06:25.000 He gave, I think it's like a 45, around 45 minute speech and an anonymous source provided this video to us.

00:06:33.000 We uploaded it on YouTube and published it and James basically lines out, he says, throughout my 13 years here, our mission has evolved from simply being about exposing the truth with help from some hidden cameras to something more transcendental, giving people hope.

00:06:48.000 He says, as I was going through this process, I reflected upon my appreciation for so many of you.

00:06:52.000 What makes us great is that we do this work because we believe we have a passion and a flair for storytelling.

00:06:58.000 He gave a big speech.

00:06:59.000 I recommend you guys listen to the full 45-minute speech.

00:07:02.000 I can't break the whole thing down in only a few minutes, but there are some things I want to point out.

00:07:08.000 The article says, Tim Kast's news has also been provided with board minutes regarding O'Keefe, which included an indefinite suspension without compensation.

00:07:18.000 And the funny thing is, maybe if we could, I think, it gets cut off right, here we go.

00:07:23.000 This is an image that we received.

00:07:25.000 Indefinite suspension of Mr. O'Keefe as CEO without compensation.

00:07:29.000 Well, that's strange.

00:07:30.000 Didn't they say before that it was paid time off?

00:07:34.000 Now we can see here in this document, it's not paid time off.

00:07:38.000 There's more.

00:07:40.000 In this image, I think this is, I believe it's something different.

00:07:43.000 Let me pull this one up.

00:07:45.000 Indefinite suspension of Mr. O'Keefe from the board pending the results of the two-dimensional audit.

00:07:50.000 So here's what we have.

00:07:51.000 I mean, so I just want to show you.

00:07:52.000 Here's the full video you can find at YouTube.com slash TimCast.

00:07:54.000 I don't know if it was uploaded anywhere else.

00:07:56.000 I believe the video of James giving the speech was leaked to a bunch of different news outlets.

00:08:01.000 And I will say this.

00:08:03.000 People are not having it.

00:08:04.000 Project Veritas on Twitter is currently down 133,349.

00:08:07.000 Let's refresh and just see what happens if it's the same.

00:08:08.000 Yeah, 133,585 followers have unfollowed them on Twitter.

00:08:10.000 And we have this statement from Veritas.

00:08:11.000 Take a look at this.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, 133,585 followers have unfollowed them on Twitter.

00:08:18.000 And we have this statement from Veritas.

00:08:20.000 Take a look at this.

00:08:21.000 This is where I get the most offended.

00:08:24.000 Here are a few examples of what has been uncovered so far by PV leadership.

00:08:28.000 Here's the first thing I'll say.

00:08:30.000 James O'Keefe is Project Veritas.

00:08:32.000 He started it, he's the one who paid the prices for it, and I assume most people are donating for him to do what he does because they believe in him.

00:08:41.000 They say, $14,000 on a charter flight to meet someone to fix his boat under the guise of meeting with a donor.

00:08:48.000 Sorry, I just literally don't believe it.

00:08:50.000 That just sounds like nonsense.

00:08:52.000 And here's the other thing I'll tell you.

00:08:54.000 If James didn't do the right thing, or he tried to by starting a non-profit, if James just did a private corporation and said, donate money, it's not tax deductible and I can do whatever I want with it, nobody would bat an eye at James O'Keefe getting a private jet.

00:09:08.000 Not that I believe that he would misuse funds this way.

00:09:11.000 Here, look at this one.

00:09:12.000 $60,000 in losses by putting together dance events such as Project Veritas Experience.

00:09:18.000 That, I disagree with.

00:09:19.000 Those are not losses.

00:09:20.000 Those are some of the most memorable Project Veritas Experiences.

00:09:24.000 Exactly.

00:09:25.000 Well, also, doesn't Turning Point USA put on all kinds of dance events stuff for students?

00:09:29.000 Like, if nonprofits lost money on one thing but made it up in a different area, that's okay, right?

00:09:36.000 Not everything they're going to do is going to be financially successful, even if ultimately it works out to be in the green.

00:09:41.000 Yeah, these show different dynamics of James and the crew, the people that he's working with, that it's not just some stodgy news organization.

00:09:47.000 I think it enlivened a lot of young people to get involved because he's also an artist, like a dancer.

00:09:51.000 So I think that was fantastic use of funds.

00:09:54.000 The story I was just telling Ian, we did an event in New York with Minds, and James O'Keefe was there, and there's a side stage area, it's kind of like backstage, and there's a group of, there's a bunch of people getting ready to go on, and I see James and I'm like, James, do a moonwalk!

00:10:10.000 And then the whole room breaks aside, and everyone stands there as James O'Keefe moonwalks perfectly through the side stage.

00:10:17.000 That kind of thing, in my opinion.

00:10:19.000 I know, maybe it's silly, but that is not a loss.

00:10:22.000 When James was doing these videos, he was making a character of Veritas that was something more than just a hidden newsroom that sometimes posts viral clips.

00:10:31.000 It was giving character and personality. 0.92

00:10:33.000 This is ridiculous.

00:10:34.000 I'm sorry, man.

00:10:34.000 It sounds personal because if this was about money and he cost the company a couple hundred thousand dollars, him leaving and all these people leaving, like these are the hardcore donors that are leaving the last 13, 130,000 people are the people that are going to throw 10 bucks a month at Project Veritas.

00:10:49.000 That's 1.3 million.

00:10:49.000 The donors already filed that cease and desist letter, right?

00:10:52.000 They said, we want our money back if you are getting rid of James.

00:10:55.000 We gave because of him.

00:10:58.000 And so therefore, if he's not there, then this is not the organization that we gave money to.

00:11:01.000 Can they get their money back?

00:11:02.000 Is that legal?

00:11:03.000 I have heard some organizations do it, other times not.

00:11:06.000 I'm not an expert on it.

00:11:08.000 It's uncommon for people to be able to donate money and then take it back.

00:11:12.000 But it would go to court, I assume.

00:11:14.000 It sounds personal.

00:11:14.000 It sounds like some people really didn't like the way James was doing it.

00:11:19.000 Or if it was about money, then they made a really stupid fiscal error in removing James because he's a moneymaker.

00:11:24.000 To me, there's two consequences of this that I think kind of even transcend what your own views are of James. 0.74

00:11:31.000 And just to go on the record, I think it could be argued Project Veritas is the most, and has been under his guidance, the most important information outlet in alternative media in the country.

00:11:45.000 Going back to their origin, their genesis with Acorn and things of that nature.

00:11:51.000 And I find it fascinating, as the guy that just wrote a definitive book about COVID fascism, that somehow all of these issues somehow immediately have to come to a head after they just did the ultimate sting operation on the demons over at Pfizer.

00:12:06.000 The timing of that, I find, incredibly not coincidental.

00:12:10.000 And just real quick, James, he says this, The only thing that changed was the biggest story in their history with over 50 million views.

00:12:19.000 And he said it's like a 10x increase over their other biggest stories they've done.

00:12:23.000 So let's set aside him for a second and your views of him and just look at running an organization and leadership.

00:12:30.000 I own my own company.

00:12:31.000 I own my own show.

00:12:32.000 You own your show.

00:12:34.000 We have employees.

00:12:34.000 We have organizations.

00:12:36.000 I've been a part of presidential campaigns, corporations.

00:12:39.000 Here's the reality of those ecosystems.

00:12:41.000 Number one, I hope they have lawyered up because by them even claiming these things in disclosures, not that frankly the Biden feds need much of an invite anyway, they just do it on their own, but they've essentially begged for a full audit of all their books from the feds to come in and say, oh okay, you guys have disclosed this, then let's see what else is under there and see if we can just finish your organization off while we are at it.

00:13:04.000 And then number two, though.

00:13:06.000 Let's play devil's advocate for a second.

00:13:08.000 And let's say there is some merit to maybe he wasn't kind.

00:13:13.000 That was their previous story, right?

00:13:15.000 He wasn't the kindest boss.

00:13:16.000 Now the story is some form of malfeasance.

00:13:19.000 Let's say there's a root of truth to them, just for the sake of devil's argument.

00:13:23.000 You don't take the star quarterback of your team.

00:13:26.000 After he just won the friggin' Super Bowl, and decide that now's the time you want to have a conversation with him about being a kinder, gentler, better teammate, and being a better steward of the team's resources.

00:13:39.000 He just won the Super Bowl, man.

00:13:40.000 Hand him the trophy, let him take pictures, and celebrate that.

00:13:44.000 There were times before that moment that you could have addressed these things, and there's times later in the off-season when there's not as much eyes, there's not as much pressure, where these kinds of things can be addressed.

00:13:54.000 This is, as you said, Ian, it's either personal or the oversight and leadership and guidance of this board is every bit as culpable, if not more so, of what they claim James is guilty of, even if he's guilty of those things.

00:14:08.000 How come no one stepped in before this?

00:14:10.000 How come no one said, hey, you know what, now given we're at a next level here, the level of eyes that are on us, the level of pressure that's on us, we've got to make sure we're even more diligent than we ever have been before.

00:14:21.000 No.

00:14:22.000 Suddenly, out of nowhere, he gets his biggest score in the history of the organization, and now suddenly we want to have a human resources review?

00:14:30.000 That is some really crappy leadership on behalf of that board, even if they are telling the truth.

00:14:35.000 Yeah, I think those are all great points, especially since Project Veritas, as far as I know, has their nonprofit status in New York.

00:14:41.000 And to get out of New York, you're at the will of the Attorney General, which New York has one of the most activist, liberal attorney generals, Letitia James, in the country, in my opinion.

00:14:51.000 I mean, it puts them in a terrible place as an organization.

00:14:54.000 If the mission is so important, why would you do that?

00:14:56.000 And to your point too, like, Every circus needs a ringleader and James O'Keefe is this circus's ringleader.

00:15:02.000 To kick him off when you are kind of building this huge momentum off of the Pfizer thing seems like... It's hard for me not to think that there is something that James was about to do that the board didn't want him to.

00:15:12.000 That's not financial.

00:15:13.000 James should file, I don't know, what do you think, LLC.

00:15:18.000 He should immediately create something new, and it should be a for-profit corporation.

00:15:23.000 And people need to understand, a lot of people think non-profit means charity and goodness.

00:15:30.000 It certainly does not.

00:15:31.000 A lot of these companies exist to enrich people.

00:15:36.000 They could be tax havens.

00:15:39.000 Some of these biggest non-profits that you've heard of will have a 98% administrative cost ratio.

00:15:46.000 It might have to be at least 90%.

00:15:48.000 I don't know.

00:15:48.000 They may have changed laws.

00:15:50.000 But this means that when you give a dollar, 90 cents goes in the pocket of the administrative

00:15:54.000 staff and 10% or less can go to the actual cause.

00:15:58.000 And I've worked for a lot of non-profits and I've seen some that do 50-50 and even that's

00:16:03.000 considered really bad.

00:16:04.000 Some good ones will brag and be like, 80% of your donation goes to the actual cause

00:16:08.000 and the administrative costs are a reality of doing business.

00:16:10.000 It just basically means that if they're like, save the dogs, 80 cents goes to actually rehoming

00:16:15.000 a dog and 20 cents is paying the managers to file the paperwork to rehome the dogs.

00:16:19.000 But when you see one of these big non-profits and their ratio is like 90% administrative, yeah, that means almost none of your money is actually doing any charitable work.

00:16:28.000 So here's what I would say.

00:16:29.000 James should form a new company and it should be a for-profit corporation, which means it won't be tax-deductible.

00:16:36.000 But there are enough people who support Project Veritas that he need only say, for 10 bucks a month, you get James O'Keefe's premium behind-the-scenes, director's cut commentary on our stories and our views, and the news is always free.

00:16:54.000 So not too dissimilar from what we do with like, here's the free show.

00:16:58.000 I think he'd make even more money, and he'd then be able to, without question, Wanted to get a private jet to go get his boat fixed?

00:17:06.000 I gotta be honest.

00:17:07.000 James deserves to have a private jet to go get his boat fixed, considering the risks he's taken to himself.

00:17:13.000 I don't think he actually did that, though. 0.90

00:17:15.000 That's ridiculous. 0.86

00:17:15.000 It's like, oh, I'm going to meet a donor. 0.86

00:17:17.000 Better have the company book me a private jet. 0.98

00:17:19.000 That's ridiculous.

00:17:21.000 So... Well, maybe he met with a donor who wanted to donate to Veritas and did, but also took his boat taken care of, and the same donor also fixed his boat. 0.82

00:17:30.000 Who knows?

00:17:30.000 But this is the thing, too.

00:17:32.000 Like, one of the claims they made, I guess, in these internal documents is that he used the money... Do they have that here?

00:17:38.000 Let me see if they have it here.

00:17:39.000 Something about, like, a wedding or something.

00:17:42.000 Like, he used the money to pay for his wedding.

00:17:44.000 And it's just like, he's not married, you know?

00:17:46.000 And apparently, it was a venue used for a corporate party.

00:17:51.000 They're just taking things and twisting it to accuse him of doing things that are wrong.

00:17:56.000 But I think, Steve, I think you put it perfectly.

00:18:00.000 I would be more willing to believe this if, privately, a board member hit me up and was like, look, we're trying to figure this one out, what should we do?

00:18:08.000 To boot him from the company abruptly, to then publicly accuse him of abusing employees, and that note said, some of the signatories of this letter have not witnessed or experienced any abuse, Now they're coming out after the donors refuted that saying, well, he was misappropriating funds.

00:18:24.000 It's like, okay, you're lying.

00:18:26.000 It's a coup.

00:18:26.000 You're just making stuff up.

00:18:28.000 It's also interesting that, you know, he's off Project Veritas, the nonprofit that we know about, but then he's also off of their political action committee, right?

00:18:35.000 There's the project, I don't remember what it's called, but it's 501c4, which they're allowed to participate in political campaigns right as we're going into an election year.

00:18:43.000 And who do you think it's like the most dangerous asset to anyone in politics right now?

00:18:48.000 James O'Keefe, because he has such a reputation as an investigative journalist.

00:18:52.000 I mean, to take him out of the organization right now, to me, it's deeply suspicious.

00:18:59.000 I care a lot about James' health.

00:19:01.000 And like, just personally, I know him.

00:19:02.000 I like him a lot.

00:19:03.000 And I'll spend times like being afraid for my friends sometimes and being like, I don't want that person to get hurt.

00:19:07.000 I felt like that about Obama, too.

00:19:09.000 I was almost like, please don't.

00:19:11.000 Don't go against the deep state, Barack, because they'll kill you.

00:19:14.000 But then what happened was he just didn't go against the deep state and played ball.

00:19:18.000 But I think James is just a guy, and the organization that he created is an organization of hundreds of people, I don't know how many people, and they're all, from what I met at Project Veritas, those people are fantastic, and they do incredible work.

00:19:28.000 I think it's like 65 or something.

00:19:30.000 65 people.

00:19:30.000 I mean, they're putting their lives, essentially their livelihoods, on the line by exposing corporate corruption.

00:19:35.000 And they can't come back.

00:19:36.000 Once you take this job, it's not like you can go back into the field you were in, right?

00:19:40.000 A lot of them are undercover, so you don't know who they are.

00:19:43.000 Those people hopefully can assimilate back in, but you know, if you're going to put your face on the movement.

00:19:48.000 But I think it's important not to put all the weight of this entire thing on James.

00:19:52.000 He's part of it, and he will continue to be part of the movement, whether or not it's with this company or another company.

00:19:59.000 But I think it's the time to take the heat off James now.

00:20:02.000 Veritas will continue, and it'll continue to expose corruption.

00:20:06.000 And if they are corrupt, they'll get exposed.

00:20:09.000 I don't know.

00:20:09.000 I don't agree.

00:20:10.000 I think, Steve, you nailed it.

00:20:11.000 Them coming out publicly and announcing financial malfeasance is...

00:20:18.000 Ask yourself, there's an old adage in sports, you never want to be the guy that follows the guy, you want to be the guy that follow the guy who follow the guy, right?

00:20:25.000 So the organization just got rid of its founder and its face, and there really wasn't another face because as you guys have pointed out, everybody else that has done public work has done it undercover.

00:20:37.000 So he is the only known face of that organization.

00:20:39.000 Who would right now, given the amount of heat that that is taking right now, on top of the open invite they literally just hiked up their skirts and said that the feds were open for business we showed all the leg we've got all the way to the panty line who wants to walk in there and say yeah i think i want to take that i want to i want to take that uh dutch door action i want to get screwed on the way in and screwed on the way out i'm gonna i'm gonna take over for a guy that's a legend to his base and then at the same time

00:21:05.000 Yeah, the people that just hired me opened up and invited the feds to come in for an investigation.

00:21:11.000 I think that is probably a pretty small list of people.

00:21:14.000 Take a look at this, only Elon Musk.

00:21:16.000 I think Elon, no, it's kind of a joke, but geez, that's something Elon would do.

00:21:20.000 Send me in.

00:21:21.000 Burning does not hurt.

00:21:22.000 They announced Elon is the new CEO of Veritas.

00:21:24.000 Look at this.

00:21:24.000 Year revenue in 2020, Veritas brought in $22,034,000.

00:21:27.000 I can only imagine with this Pfizer video.

00:21:31.000 Here's what I think.

00:21:32.000 It's the money.

00:21:33.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:21:35.000 Some people are like, I think Pfizer came in and did something.

00:21:37.000 I'm not so sure about that.

00:21:39.000 That would be bad PR-wise.

00:21:41.000 Like, you don't want to pour fuel on a fire of a story by... There's a story of these activists who were protesting outside of a McDonald's, saying McDonald's was bad.

00:21:51.000 McDonald's sued them.

00:21:52.000 Won.

00:21:53.000 And then their stock tanked.

00:21:55.000 Because the news reporting was that massive corporation attacks two private individuals.

00:22:00.000 Pfizer's gotta be like, everyone's cheering these guys on, if we go after them it's gonna hurt us, let's ignore it.

00:22:04.000 Here's what I think.

00:22:06.000 In 2020, take a look at these numbers.

00:22:08.000 In 2019, Project Veritas brings in $12,151,496.

00:22:13.000 One year later, they nearly double their revenue to $22 million.

00:22:19.000 How much money do you think is gonna come in now that they had the biggest stories, this biggest story ever in the history of Veritas?

00:22:27.000 I can only imagine they're gonna hit 40, 50 million.

00:22:30.000 Okay, maybe I'm way off with that.

00:22:32.000 40 was my first thought.

00:22:33.000 40, right?

00:22:33.000 Now imagine you're on the board.

00:22:35.000 And you're like, guys, look how much money we have.

00:22:38.000 I could never have... And then James says, we are not using the money for what you want.

00:22:44.000 We are going to use the money the way I see it, and we're going to do the mission.

00:22:47.000 And I don't think the board members necessarily are thinking I'm going to stuff my pockets, but they're saying something like, let's use the funds to build a new building, and we can start doing this and that, and we can put a gym there.

00:22:56.000 And then James is like, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to expose this.

00:22:59.000 You've got to get rid of... This is what I said when we first got word that he was suspended.

00:23:04.000 If you want access to the cash, you've got to get rid of the ideological founder who's standing in the way of that big pile of money.

00:23:10.000 Now for them to come out with a new excuse that you is misappropriating funds, it's projecting.

00:23:16.000 It's what we typically see from these leftists.

00:23:18.000 They accuse others of... They've got board members posting their pronouns in their Twitter bios.

00:23:23.000 And accusing someone else of malfeasance.

00:23:25.000 And how do board members get on boards?

00:23:27.000 They donate to the organization, right?

00:23:29.000 So if you had a year like this, and again, I used to work in fundraising.

00:23:34.000 The top amount of money comes from a very narrow number of donors, typically, right?

00:23:38.000 So I think, yes, they have really great grassroots support, but there are probably a couple new donors who saw the work they have done and said, I am willing to really either scale up what I'm giving or I'm willing to give a huge donation for the first time.

00:23:51.000 Now, that's a threat to all the other board members, right?

00:23:54.000 They are potentially going to lose their position if they are now competing with these other high dollar donors.

00:24:01.000 I think that this is a sketchy thing to do, especially when your organization is doing so well, has this big story out, unless you personally feel threatened.

00:24:11.000 It seems like James is intimating.

00:24:13.000 It's Pfizer.

00:24:14.000 He said, the only thing that has changed is that we broke the biggest story in our organization's history during the last week of January in 2023.

00:24:22.000 With 50 plus million views, our video became a global phenomenon.

00:24:25.000 He then goes on to add more context and says, that is the only thing that has changed.

00:24:29.000 Then suddenly, an unusual emergency happened just a few days after the story, he continued.

00:24:35.000 And then he says, on Thursday, February 2nd, I was informed by an officer of Veritas on the phone, while en route to the airport, that he would resign unless I stepped down as CEO.

00:24:45.000 Ken, I want to address the Pfizer connection.

00:24:47.000 I got a question on my show over at The Blaze today.

00:24:50.000 Someone asked me, what would be Pfizer's incentive to produce a product, or any product, that could potentially be harmful to its customers?

00:25:01.000 When its customers are, you know, are people in need of health care.

00:25:07.000 You and I aren't Pfizer's customers.

00:25:09.000 Governments are.

00:25:12.000 No one within the sound of my voice paid for a COVID vaccine.

00:25:16.000 Governments paid for all of those.

00:25:18.000 You're not paying for Pax Lovett.

00:25:19.000 I know some people who did pay for it.

00:25:21.000 They were doing like $100.

00:25:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:23.000 But in general, governments are... You're being pedantic.

00:25:28.000 I know, but governments, and that's all right to be exact, governments are the clients.

00:25:33.000 What he put out with that video didn't put heat on Pfizer.

00:25:38.000 They're indemnified going back to 1986, further under Reagan, further indemnified by the PrEP Act under Trump.

00:25:49.000 The heat's not on them.

00:25:50.000 That hay's in the barn.

00:25:51.000 They've cashed all those checks.

00:25:53.000 The heat is on governments.

00:25:56.000 People aren't calling Pfizer after they watch those videos.

00:25:59.000 They know that nothing happens calling Pfizer.

00:26:02.000 God bless, there was a group of New Yorkers over the weekend that did a rally in front of Pfizer, speaking my love language, chanting Nuremberg to Adam, and that's my love language, but that doesn't do any good.

00:26:13.000 The governments are the clients.

00:26:15.000 Israel let Pfizer essentially experiment on their population for an entire year.

00:26:20.000 That's what our government did.

00:26:21.000 That's what almost every major government in the world did with Pfizer and Moderna.

00:26:24.000 They let their people be the real-time human trial, in real time, in public.

00:26:29.000 And so when he puts that video out, The horse doctor, Al Borla, at Pfizer, he's not sweating it.

00:26:37.000 The horse doctor?

00:26:37.000 Governments are.

00:26:38.000 Yeah, that's what he was!

00:26:39.000 He was a horse doctor!

00:26:41.000 And so the veterinarian at Pfizer is not sweating it.

00:26:44.000 The governments are.

00:26:46.000 The governments are still somewhat, depending on what your views of elections are, somewhat still accountable to their people in ways that the corporation at Pfizer is not.

00:26:55.000 And that's a whole new layer of heat.

00:26:57.000 And it's not just our government.

00:26:58.000 People around the world, guys, watched those videos and said, hey, do you guys know what's going on with excess deaths in Germany right now?

00:27:06.000 They're higher right now than they have been in the entire time of COVID-19.

00:27:10.000 They're higher right now in Germany, 40% higher than normal.

00:27:13.000 That's higher than they were at the peak of the initial wave of COVID in 2020.

00:27:18.000 How do we explain those things?

00:27:21.000 His video opens up that entire Pandora's box for all these governments.

00:27:24.000 We'll slow down and go back and address a lot of this stuff.

00:27:27.000 What's the name, Albert Borla?

00:27:29.000 Albert Borla.

00:27:29.000 And he was literally a horse doctor.

00:27:31.000 He was literally a horse doctor.

00:27:32.000 But hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:27:34.000 You're not being cute.

00:27:35.000 No!

00:27:35.000 He actually was treating horses specifically.

00:27:37.000 Yes!

00:27:38.000 So when they tried to tell you that ivermectin was horse-paced, no it wasn't.

00:27:41.000 Ivermectin's a Nobel Prize winning drug from 2015.

00:27:44.000 It was repurposed for animal use because of how effective it was for humans.

00:27:48.000 We do that with a lot of drugs, by the way.

00:27:50.000 A lot of our human antibiotics are repurposed for animals.

00:27:53.000 He was actually a horse doctor.

00:27:55.000 They're always guilty, guys.

00:27:56.000 They're always guilty.

00:27:58.000 They're always guilty of what you accuse you of.

00:27:59.000 So Trump's compromised by a Russian p-tape. 0.87

00:28:02.000 It turns out Hunter Biden is literally filming his Compromont videos with Russian hookers while they're accusing that of Trump.

00:28:08.000 They're always, always guilty of what they accuse you of.

00:28:10.000 That's actually interesting, because we often talk about the Ukrainegate, how they accused Trump of doing what Biden actually did.

00:28:15.000 Yes!

00:28:15.000 But the p-tape thing actually is a good point, too, because it was Hunter Biden.

00:28:18.000 Yes!

00:28:19.000 And now it's horse pace, but he's actually a horse doctor.

00:28:22.000 I wanted to point this out, because I don't know.

00:28:25.000 A lot of people probably don't like Rick and Morty, but the mom in the show, Beth, is a horse surgeon, and they make fun of her calling her not a real surgeon, and she gets really offended by it, and it's just fun that this guy is a horse doctor.

00:28:36.000 He's not a real doctor.

00:28:38.000 He works on horses.

00:28:39.000 But I don't know.

00:28:39.000 I just wanted to bring that up anyway.

00:28:41.000 But here's what I think.

00:28:42.000 I was going to have this question for you a few sentences ago.

00:28:47.000 You talk about Nuremberg, your book, Rise of the Fourth Reich, and all that.

00:28:51.000 We've had a lot of libertarians come on the show and talk about, I don't know where you end up on the economic scale or whatever.

00:28:57.000 I'm not entirely convinced that this is a problem that is completely free or could be solved by laissez-faire capitalism or just straight capitalism.

00:29:08.000 I think this is a problem of it.

00:29:10.000 I think what happens is, as much as I prefer, you know, capitalism over say like a socialism, don't get me wrong, I do think there's still an issue here.

00:29:18.000 And of course the issue, let me slow down and walk through this because I understand government is a problem in this one.

00:29:22.000 Here's the problem we face with solving an issue like this.

00:29:26.000 Government mandates things because they're lazy, inept, evil or otherwise.

00:29:31.000 Some are ideological and think now's our chance.

00:29:33.000 We have, you know, lockdowns are good for the climate and things like that.

00:29:36.000 Others are panicked and say, Well, my people are screaming, do something.

00:29:41.000 They don't care what I do as long as I do something.

00:29:43.000 Then along comes a big pharmaceutical company, who you mentioned correctly, the governments are the customers.

00:29:49.000 The government says, this is it.

00:29:51.000 I'll take public funding, we'll buy products from this major pharmaceutical, and then it looks like I did something.

00:29:58.000 The major pharmaceutical says, we don't care, we're immune, and we have guaranteed government contracts.

00:30:05.000 So it's a perfect storm of government cronyism, government corruption.

00:30:09.000 You're describing fascism, of course.

00:30:10.000 Right.

00:30:11.000 And ultimately what it is is the lucrative merger of corporation and state.

00:30:15.000 Elites in the public and private sector, the classic definition of fascism.

00:30:18.000 But what I see culturally, governmentally and in the corporate system, I don't necessarily believe is definitively mustache twirling villains who are trying to destroy the planet.

00:30:29.000 I know we've had many conversations about population reduction, about how, you know, the New York Times, I think, I think it was the Times wrote that the lockdowns, the planet's healing now and that maybe we need climate change lockdowns.

00:30:41.000 They literally use the line from Avengers Endgame when Captain America says, well, you know, after half the world was disappeared, the animals are back in the Hudson.

00:30:48.000 Wow.

00:30:48.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 But I kind of just feel like It's more like a Jackson Pollock painting than something as precise as Rembrandt.

00:30:57.000 It is quite literally the chaos of our cultural decay, the system itself breaking down in every different area that we've got, cultural collapse, corporate and governmental collapse, that results in nobody wanting to take responsibility for the hard decisions and just saying, path of least resistance and leave me the F alone.

00:31:15.000 And so we get all of this mess.

00:31:16.000 I think it's all of the above.

00:31:19.000 I think that, first of all, The number one issue at play here is the spiritual and moral decline of the West, and you are watching a level of spiritual darkness and malevolence.

00:31:34.000 We had a private dinner with Tucker Carlson out in Iowa this summer.

00:31:38.000 When he came out to emcee an event for us and one of the questions we asked him was, hey, what happened to the bowtied, smiling libertarian who was friends with Rachel Maddow on MSNBC and CNN and thought, frankly, people like us, you know, these dreaded, you know, Jesus freaks that we were the death knell of the Republican Party and we're going to be the reason why y'all never won any elections.

00:31:58.000 How did you become our favorite talk show host?

00:32:00.000 What happened with you?

00:32:01.000 Because this isn't the same guy that was on MSNBC 20 years ago.

00:32:05.000 And he said something I thought that was very profound and I think really does sum up the era in which we live.

00:32:10.000 He said, you know, I'm a kid.

00:32:11.000 I grew up in Georgetown, Tucker said.

00:32:13.000 My dad was a GOP operative.

00:32:15.000 Everybody I was around were political, you know, kids of politicians or political operatives.

00:32:20.000 We trick-or-treated together.

00:32:22.000 We hung out together.

00:32:22.000 We went to school together.

00:32:24.000 We did Christmas together.

00:32:25.000 I could see why someone might think Medicare and Medicaid might be the best way to help a certain disadvantaged Group of people even if my ideology doesn't agree, but I don't think that causes me suspicion about your motivations He says what's happened in this current era in America and really throughout the West is decisions are being made that no one truly Benefits from like we can disagree vehemently at you know ideologically about affirmative action

00:32:50.000 But somebody is affirmatively benefiting from that, even if we think that the overall collateral damage doesn't justify it and you disagree with that, there is someone benefiting from it.

00:33:00.000 No one benefits from kids being sent off to the island of Dr. Moreau for meatball surgery.

00:33:05.000 No one's benefiting from that.

00:33:07.000 No one's benefiting from the stuff that we're talking about right now.

00:33:10.000 And he said, when I analyzed this as a kid who just grew up in the traditional political process, and I see people and I go to my liberal friends and I'm asking, why are you guys doing stuff like this?

00:33:19.000 And they suddenly don't have answers, but they're just going to do them anyway.

00:33:21.000 He goes, that's when I just had to realize that there's a level of spiritual darkness at play here that's the only thing I can explain When this level of nihilism, and that's what you just described, Tim, a comprehensive nihilism, whether it's people's crave and greed, whether it's they've given themselves, another group has given themselves over to Malthusian ethics at a nihilistic Nietzschean level, okay, of depopulation, whether it's all of those things, whether it's stupidity, whether it's complacency, pour all that stuff in a cauldron, add a little dash of newt and an eye of bat,

00:33:51.000 Okay, and a cup of water and boil it together and pour it out, and what you see is systemic decline of a civilization, and that's what we're living through right now.

00:33:59.000 How do we reinvigorate spirit?

00:34:02.000 Like, Jesus tried, but they just killed him off and made a religion out of him, and they're like, worship him now! 0.88

00:34:07.000 And it's like, dude, he was trying to wake people up to God.

00:34:10.000 How do we Anytime I've seen in the past, people try, they get co-opted, and cults get made out of them, and then they just... the war machine moves on.

00:34:18.000 The Roman Empire started a church.

00:34:20.000 Well, here's what I would say.

00:34:22.000 No one remembers almost any of the names of the Roman war machine.

00:34:26.000 Everybody still remembers Jesus' name.

00:34:29.000 We mark time, by the way.

00:34:30.000 We mark time.

00:34:31.000 Human civilizations mark time by the birth and death of Christ.

00:34:37.000 The most attended worship event of the year in human civilization for going on a second epoch is the marking of the resurrection of Christ, followed only by the marking of the birth of Christ.

00:34:52.000 So I would argue his legacy is very intact.

00:34:56.000 Those people like me who believe that he is God, that he was resurrected, and the testimonies that we have of the changes that have gone on in our lives, and then we have gone on and helped other people and do things that are beyond our normal capability so we don't give ourselves over to the nihilism that Tim talks about, I would argue his legacy is intact.

00:35:14.000 All the people that put him to death, they're all in the ground.

00:35:17.000 All right?

00:35:17.000 Nobody cares about any of them.

00:35:19.000 But Christ is still exalted and hailed and worshipped 2,000 years later.

00:35:24.000 So I think his legacy is in really good shape.

00:35:27.000 I want to pull up this tweet from Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:35:30.000 She says, we need a national divorce. 0.99

00:35:32.000 We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. 0.97

00:35:36.000 Everyone I talk to says this. 0.64

00:35:38.000 From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrats' traitorous America Last policies, we are done.

00:35:46.000 John Stewart says, but we get to keep the name, right?

00:35:49.000 And then Nicole Pearl Roth says, cool, California can keep the tech, AG, livestock, Georgia can keep their infant mortality, incarceration rates, and the country's lowest wages. 0.92

00:36:02.000 I find it interesting.

00:36:02.000 Yeah, you can see it.

00:36:03.000 It's down here.

00:36:04.000 Michael Malice... I love this topic, by the way.

00:36:06.000 He posted, the case for American secession from Observer, why it's time to disunite the United States.

00:36:11.000 Marianne Williamson, did she just call for civil war? 1.00

00:36:14.000 Does she know what happened the last time a few states said they wanted to leave?

00:36:17.000 It's a funny thing for Marianne to say, because like, yes, the Confederates did say, hey, we're going to leave.

00:36:22.000 And then the Union was like, no, you're not.

00:36:24.000 And then sent troops down.

00:36:26.000 So, the funny thing is there are many people left.

00:36:28.000 Sarah Silverman, I think, she said this a while ago, didn't she?

00:36:32.000 Said something about a national divorce.

00:36:35.000 I know she has talked about it in the past.

00:36:37.000 I don't know about Sarah Silverman specifically, but it's definitely something that comes up.

00:36:39.000 So I want to Google it.

00:36:40.000 University of Virginia did, they have a Center for Politics, they did this poll last October, and they found that like 50% of Trump supporters are in favor of a national divorce.

00:36:49.000 Yes, Sarah Silverman did say, maybe we should break up and divide into like two or three countries.

00:36:55.000 So this is a really, really great example of why we probably are headed towards a national divorce.

00:37:00.000 that both political parties seem to hold, which is kind of wild.

00:37:03.000 Yes, Sarah Silverman did say maybe we should break up and divide into like two or three 0.93

00:37:07.000 countries.

00:37:08.000 So this is a really, really great example of why we probably are headed towards a national

00:37:13.000 divorce.

00:37:14.000 The fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene, two years, okay, actually I think to be fair,

00:37:18.000 was it September?

00:37:19.000 September.

00:37:19.000 So a year and a half.

00:37:21.000 After Sarah Silverman calls for this, Marjorie Taylor Greene calls for it, and now liberals are angry.

00:37:27.000 How dare you say something that Sarah Silverman said a year and a half ago?

00:37:30.000 It's actually bipartisan, right?

00:37:31.000 It's bipartisan!

00:37:33.000 And not only that, Marjorie's led to the party.

00:37:35.000 To me, we absolutely need a national divorce, which is why it'll never happen.

00:37:42.000 Because, first of all, as we just discussed with the James O'Keefe story, we can't have nice things in the era in which we live.

00:37:49.000 But I think What we're up against won't let us go.

00:37:55.000 You're dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses that have tanks, all right? 1.00

00:38:01.000 The same thing that has the Jehovah's... Do you ever have the Jehovah's Witness come to your door on a Saturday? 0.99

00:38:06.000 And it's always on the best weather Saturday of the year.

00:38:10.000 Every time.

00:38:10.000 It's like they plan it.

00:38:11.000 Always.

00:38:11.000 It may just be that they only go out when it's nice out.

00:38:14.000 That could be it too.

00:38:15.000 And see, now I'm the guy that pushes back because I'm just that kind of douche.

00:38:19.000 And so I will ask them questions like, so let me get this straight.

00:38:22.000 Only 144,000 are going to be saved.

00:38:23.000 Oh yeah.

00:38:25.000 Well, I googled it, and there's four million of you.

00:38:29.000 So maybe y'all need to settle this argument amongst yourselves before you bug the hell out of us on a Saturday.

00:38:33.000 I had a Jehovah's Witness tell me once, well, only that many will be saved, and they've already been selected. 0.99

00:38:37.000 And I was like, so what are we doing?

00:38:38.000 Then leave me the hell alone. 0.53

00:38:39.000 Leave me the hell alone.

00:38:41.000 But it's that level.

00:38:42.000 It's Lyndon LaRouchian.

00:38:44.000 I'm in an airport hangar.

00:38:46.000 Holding up signs about Margaret Thatcher 20 years after she's dead.

00:38:49.000 Level of zealotry that the spirit of the age, that these sorts of statists, and who am I talking about?

00:38:56.000 These are the people that put their pronouns in their bio, and before they had that, they had the Ukraine flag in their bio, and before they had that, They had their vax card in their bio, and before they had that, they had their mask in their bio.

00:39:07.000 Let me show how virtuous of a lemming I am to the spirit of the age, to the state.

00:39:13.000 That level of zealotry isn't going to let you walk away.

00:39:17.000 They're here to fix you.

00:39:19.000 They're here to fix you.

00:39:20.000 And if you don't think you need to be fixed, you will be made to care.

00:39:24.000 And the only reason the tanks aren't rolling yet is because you all own about 400 million guns.

00:39:29.000 If you didn't, the tanks would be rolling already.

00:39:31.000 Well, they're working on that part.

00:39:32.000 Yeah.

00:39:32.000 And so they're not going to let you... She's right when she says that.

00:39:36.000 But any society that really needs that would not be able to accomplish it either because the divisions that exist, both sides are not going to agree to peaceably walk away.

00:39:49.000 When you come to the brink, when you're about to ruin as much freedom, liberty, and prosperity as this country is about to flush down the toilet, that only happens because the forces that have pushed us to this brink are on some—you use the word cult, I use that in my show a lot—the level of cultic zeal that says, to hell with all those things!

00:40:09.000 I have to win this argument no matter what.

00:40:11.000 You cannot reason with that.

00:40:13.000 That level of zeal will not let you walk away.

00:40:15.000 Let me ask you, how many countries have the freedoms guaranteed that we have?

00:40:21.000 Like the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, freedom of speech, how many other countries?

00:40:23.000 As enumerated and itemized as us, I would argue none.

00:40:26.000 Probably.

00:40:27.000 I think it's probably close to none.

00:40:28.000 I think maybe Liberia has something similar because it was created by Americans or something like that.

00:40:33.000 Not that it's really working out for them to be completely honest.

00:40:35.000 But I have to wonder then if It is a good thing for these bad people to see the U.S.

00:40:40.000 break apart because it would remove one of the only true free or close to free as we can get societies.

00:40:48.000 And look, the U.S.

00:40:49.000 has its problems.

00:40:50.000 It's not completely free.

00:40:51.000 There's still tribalism.

00:40:53.000 There's all these issues.

00:40:54.000 But man, I've been to some of these countries.

00:40:56.000 Been to countries where the cops will just kill you and that's it.

00:41:00.000 The world is not... Look, I'll say, watch Yellowstone.

00:41:04.000 Have you seen that show?

00:41:06.000 I've been watching it recently, so I'm gonna use it as analogies non-stop.

00:41:09.000 But in this show, they just kill people.

00:41:12.000 You're in Montana, you're in the United States, but you're still in the Wild West, and they just kill people.

00:41:16.000 Right?

00:41:16.000 You go to other countries, the whole country is the Wild West.

00:41:19.000 You're in a city, watch the videos out of Brazil.

00:41:21.000 You ever see these Brazilian videos?

00:41:23.000 Dude's chillin' in like a grocery store and someone walks in with a gun and they start shootin' at him and then it's motorcycles pull up and jump out and rob you and then people start shootin' at each other.

00:41:30.000 I know we have those things happen here too, but it's not that bad.

00:41:34.000 We often think things are way worse than they are, and some things are worse than other countries, don't get me wrong, some countries are nicer, but I'm not going to sit here and act like Sweden because of its lower crime rate is better than the US, when the people in Sweden live under a boot and are scared to speak up and losing their jobs because their whole country is woke.

00:41:50.000 The United States has a lot of really awesome things going for it, but we're losing it, and if people don't speak up, it's going to become bad.

00:41:56.000 Now, as it pertains to national divorce, I think The challenge is, you know, someone super chatted that too much blood and treasure was sacrificed for this union, and that's an interesting point.

00:42:07.000 I know Michael Malice, I know Luke Rutkowski, they talk about national divorce, and the issue I have with it is, in the end, it benefits those who seek to subjugate the world, because at the very least, it would split the territory of freedom in half. 0.60

00:42:21.000 If the country breaks apart, then we know the blue states go full Canada, and then there's even less freedom in the world. 0.87

00:42:29.000 It would be the greatest breeding ground for limited war the world had ever seen if the U.S. 0.81

00:42:34.000 were to split in half.

00:42:35.000 It'd be one side would be communist, Chinese-funded, and then the other side would be the remnants of the United States or something like that.

00:42:41.000 How is that any different than what we have right now?

00:42:43.000 Well, bomber planes would be dropping bombs on Tulsa, Oklahoma, you know, like just annihilating cities in the name of justice.

00:42:52.000 What you explained there a second ago Ian is why people want it and then why I think we can't achieve it.

00:42:59.000 We got people want to rattle sabers with China.

00:43:03.000 What would a war between the US and China ultimately decide?

00:43:07.000 The language the social credit system will all eventually go to is in.

00:43:11.000 That's really what we're fighting for.

00:43:13.000 That's what it is.

00:43:14.000 There would be no higher principle other than, do you prefer Mandarin?

00:43:17.000 Do you like Chinese hieroglyphics on your social credit score?

00:43:20.000 Or do you want it accessible in English?

00:43:22.000 Because every major cultural institution in this country either is already owned by the Chinese or aspires to be like them. 1.00

00:43:29.000 And so we're already in the dynamic that you described.

00:43:32.000 That dynamic exists now.

00:43:34.000 But the end result of seeing it play itself out would also result in what you are concerned about.

00:43:40.000 We are headed there.

00:43:42.000 That's unavoidable, unless you start seeing great awakenings.

00:43:46.000 Where do we have liberty in America to begin with?

00:43:49.000 It's not a coincidence you had great awakenings, spiritual revivals, that then led to liberty in the country, all right?

00:43:55.000 And that's why John Adams said, Constitution's only for moral and religious people.

00:43:59.000 You can't have limited government with people they think their character has no limits upon it.

00:44:03.000 They'll then eventually think I can do whatever the hell I want, and then make you pay the bill and the freight for it when it blows up in my face.

00:44:08.000 That's what we have now, called a welfare state.

00:44:11.000 So eventually, we're going to either see revival, like we saw at the dawn of the country, or you're going to see the end of the country, and that's the path that we're on right now.

00:44:18.000 This is a point of no return.

00:44:19.000 What does revival look like in a modern sense?

00:44:21.000 Like, is it a return to patriotism?

00:44:23.000 Like, how would you see symptoms of revival?

00:44:25.000 Patriarchy. 0.93

00:44:26.000 Yeah, I love patriarchy.

00:44:28.000 Well, it has to begin with an acknowledgment of the God that our rights come from.

00:44:34.000 Do we believe in God?

00:44:35.000 That, to me, when Chesterton said America is the only country ever founded on a creed, that's really what he meant.

00:44:42.000 That our rights come, and he was observing this as an English theologian, a British theologian, observing, you know, basically their offspring and how it had taken off after the Revolutionary War period.

00:44:54.000 And that was his observation, is that America took the notion that rights come from God, the laws of nature and nature's God, and therefore they're not bestowed by governments, and therefore governments don't have the ability to take them away, and governments are just as accountable to that same God as the people that rights come from.

00:45:14.000 Now we have civil rights, we don't have individual rights, we have group rights now.

00:45:18.000 We don't have a justice system based on restitution anymore.

00:45:22.000 That's what stuff like eye for an eye in the Bible means.

00:45:24.000 It doesn't literally mean eye for an eye.

00:45:26.000 It means what you have taken from someone else must be taken from you or you must restore it.

00:45:30.000 There must be restitution.

00:45:32.000 We don't have that now.

00:45:33.000 Now you've committed a crime against society.

00:45:36.000 Everything is centralized.

00:45:37.000 Everything's collectivist.

00:45:38.000 We see this in health care.

00:45:39.000 That's why we had COVID fascism.

00:45:42.000 Because Obamacare ended the last vestige of the patient provider relationship left in America.

00:45:48.000 Men will pay for pap smears now. 1.00

00:45:50.000 You're all on a community rating now.

00:45:52.000 Everybody's a unit now.

00:45:53.000 Everybody's a file.

00:45:54.000 I mean, if you... Dude, go back and listen to Bob Seger's I Feel Like a Number from like 40 years ago.

00:46:00.000 That's freaking prophecy on where we are right now.

00:46:03.000 Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers is really about wokeism.

00:46:07.000 That's what Californication is, is wokeism.

00:46:09.000 He was singing about that in 2003 or something.

00:46:11.000 What was his reference 40 years ago?

00:46:14.000 Bob Seger's Feel Like a Number.

00:46:15.000 Go Google the lyrics for that.

00:46:17.000 It'll read like a prophecy of 21st century America.

00:46:19.000 One of the problems of us all having rights given from God that we founded the country on, except for those people, those savages, they're not even human. 1.00

00:46:26.000 They weren't even human to those people. 0.96

00:46:29.000 They killed the Native Americans and slaughtered them, and the black people were three-fifths of a human in the eyes of God, according to the founders. 0.77

00:46:36.000 So like, yeah, we say it's God given us rights, but like, obviously the history shows otherwise. 0.79

00:46:42.000 We slaughtered 90% of the native population. 1.00

00:46:45.000 We didn't consider them human.

00:46:46.000 I mean, the people didn't even consider them human at the time, which is like the most abhorrent thing in the eyes of God I can imagine, is that humans would consider another human like a dirty animal non-human and then kill it and say it has no rights.

00:46:57.000 So how do we justify now?

00:46:59.000 Here's the challenge, I think, Ian, is that everybody projects.

00:47:03.000 And one of the big mistakes people make when it comes to any kind of historical conquest is the projection of your cultural values onto cultures that no longer exist or have deeply different values.

00:47:12.000 So I find this interesting in history.

00:47:16.000 The idea that all humans are sound morally and that we should agree with all of their ways of life.

00:47:21.000 Like, you know, the Aztec notoriously would sacrifice people, rip their hearts out or whatever. 0.96

00:47:26.000 What do they do, they put them on an altar and then cut their head off? 0.81

00:47:28.000 Kind of open with obsidian? 0.97

00:47:29.000 Yeah, and while they're alive and things like that.

00:47:33.000 So you've got to understand that even deeply religious, I mean like the colonial Europeans were deeply religious and probably very zealous in terms of their beliefs, but imagine how you would feel as this like Somewhat liberal libertarian type modern man watching a bunch of people drag a screaming woman upstairs and then jam her in the chest with obsidian and cut her open in front of you.

00:47:57.000 You wouldn't be thinking these are good people.

00:48:00.000 You'd be thinking these people are animals. 0.79

00:48:02.000 Oh my god.

00:48:03.000 I mean, not literal animals.

00:48:05.000 You're saying that in a derogatory sense, like, what is wrong with these people?

00:48:07.000 I'm not saying every Native American population was that way.

00:48:10.000 I'm just saying, what happens is, young people today look around at this society that we've built through blood and sacrifice, blood and treasure for, all of the death fought along the way, the Civil War itself, how many dead Union soldiers to preserve this Union, ultimately leading to the end of the Civil War.

00:48:25.000 Not that it was the exact intention of the Civil War, but that was a big component of it.

00:48:29.000 And then they say, look at this and say, All societies must have been this way, and the conquest of such must have been wrong. 0.77

00:48:36.000 And it's like, dude, like, that group of people was going around murdering kids and raping women non-stop. 0.51

00:48:41.000 Yeah, we all agree that was a bad thing, and they got conquered. 0.95

00:48:44.000 You know?

00:48:45.000 Are we at the point of history where conquering and destroying is not the way forward now?

00:48:49.000 Like, are we truly there?

00:48:50.000 Oh, no.

00:48:51.000 No, I think that's still happening.

00:48:52.000 It's done differently.

00:48:54.000 You're living in a post-Christian America now, and really a post-Christian Western civilization. 0.73

00:48:59.000 So what will come next?

00:49:01.000 Exactly what preceded Christendom or Western civilization?

00:49:04.000 The Dark Ages.

00:49:05.000 That's what will come next.

00:49:06.000 Now these dark ages, the good news is you won't have to worry about dying a bubonic plague because rats are crapping in the street outside your home, okay?

00:49:14.000 And that's getting into the water table.

00:49:16.000 We're too advanced technologically.

00:49:18.000 This will be a technocratic dark ages.

00:49:20.000 All right, so it'll look like, well, frankly, China.

00:49:23.000 You'll have the accoutrements of modernity.

00:49:24.000 You'll have a car.

00:49:25.000 It'll be electric.

00:49:26.000 And they will determine from a central hub whether it comes on or not, how far you can drive.

00:49:32.000 You'll have access to the internet.

00:49:33.000 They will determine what you can and cannot see and how often you can use it.

00:49:36.000 You'll have a mobile phone.

00:49:37.000 They'll determine, you know, who you can talk to and monitor everybody else.

00:49:40.000 It'll be a technocratic dark ages, all right?

00:49:43.000 But it'll be a dark age for individual liberty and individual agency nevertheless.

00:49:49.000 Outside of the outside, In the history of the human species, outside of acknowledgement of a biblical worldview, on some level, even imperfectly, there has never been any regard for individual freedom and liberty in the 7,000-year history of recorded human history, period.

00:50:07.000 Regardless of language, period, custom, culture, it's never happened outside of a biblical worldview, because it's the only one that says men and women are each made in the likeness and image of God.

00:50:17.000 It's the only one!

00:50:18.000 that ever has said that or proclaimed that, which is why outside of it, it simply doesn't happen.

00:50:23.000 We don't believe in that worldview anymore, which is now why we went from feminism to now men are going to become women now and become even better women than the women were.

00:50:31.000 We don't believe in anything.

00:50:33.000 The West is like the Joker, but not the Heath Ledger version.

00:50:36.000 At least the Heath Ledger version wanted to prove a point.

00:50:39.000 We had an argument.

00:50:41.000 We're the Joaquin Phoenix version.

00:50:42.000 We're the one that looks at Robert De Niro and says, I don't believe in anything.

00:50:47.000 That's who we are!

00:50:47.000 You know what, the reason I have issues with Christendom and why... Well, I gotta address that one.

00:50:51.000 The Joaquin Phoenix version is a combination of mental illness and anger at the system.

00:50:59.000 I think you're right.

00:51:00.000 The Joaquin Phoenix version of Joker is basically a guy who doesn't understand what's going on and is just angry and entitled, so he kills a guy who helped him.

00:51:09.000 Let me stress this, because this is a really, really good point, especially for those who know I love pop culture references.

00:51:16.000 The Joker film, awesome.

00:51:18.000 You guys have all seen it?

00:51:19.000 Joker?

00:51:19.000 Negative, no.

00:51:20.000 You've not seen Joker?

00:51:21.000 No.

00:51:22.000 Amazing film.

00:51:22.000 Okay.

00:51:23.000 And spoiler alert, I think it's the perfect example of one, they show all the protesters in the streets screaming about the 99%, about the 1% smashing things. 0.89

00:51:32.000 He riles them up, this Joker character.

00:51:35.000 In the end, they're like dancing and cheering for him.

00:51:38.000 And that's basically the idea is that he gets these followers because he kills this late night comedian saying, you get what you deserve.

00:51:45.000 Here's the funny thing about it though.

00:51:47.000 This is about a guy who's mentally ill and he's out he's down on his luck he's abused and then finally he snaps and he kills some dudes on a train who were messing with him and it's like you kind of understand why he's so angry but he really doesn't understand the system he thinks Thomas Wayne's his dad he's not he's crazy He does a stand-up routine and he gets made fun of for doing it because he forgets his lines and laughs at his own jokes.

00:52:09.000 A late-night TV show host puts that video on TV and they all laugh at it.

00:52:14.000 A true comedian at that point would be like, I did it!

00:52:18.000 They're laughing at me!

00:52:20.000 I figured something out.

00:52:21.000 This is working.

00:52:22.000 They're laughing.

00:52:22.000 Let's roll with it.

00:52:23.000 Rodney Dangerfield.

00:52:24.000 I was just going to say, how many great comedians have made a routine out of self-deprecation?

00:52:29.000 And it was hilarious, and then you're with them.

00:52:31.000 And so think about what this movie represents with Joker.

00:52:34.000 He's a guy who does something really funny that everyone laughs at, but he gets mad because it wasn't the way they were supposed to laugh.

00:52:41.000 So he goes on the show, when given an opportunity, when they actually say, okay, come on the show, in front of the world, and decides to kill the guy because they didn't give him what he wanted.

00:52:51.000 Because they didn't give him his emotional satisfaction. 0.58

00:52:52.000 That's why he's a bad guy.

00:52:54.000 And that's what I see today. 0.96

00:52:56.000 With the wokeness, with the protesters, they're mentally ill, they're unstable, they're angry, they're entitled, and they don't understand that our founding fathers and our ancestors have given them everything. 0.73

00:53:07.000 That's why they hated the movie. 0.77

00:53:09.000 That's why the forces were talking.

00:53:10.000 about hated this film is they recognized it was the fulfillment of their own nihilistic worldview.

00:53:15.000 This is where it goes.

00:53:17.000 And then you get the Heath Ledger joker was trying to prove a point about, he says, if I told the news a busload of soldiers would be blown up, nobody cares.

00:53:26.000 But if you say a mayor dies, they'll lose their minds.

00:53:28.000 And it's like, okay, well, he's actually got some method to his madness.

00:53:33.000 Joaquin Phoenix really represented, in my opinion, all of the wokeness. 0.67

00:53:37.000 I was going to mention Christendom, which we were talking about earlier, and why I think there's a problem, why people are having a problem with it and have hated it for so long and want nothing to do with it, because it was used as a cudgel. 0.86

00:53:47.000 It used God as a constrictive tool, and if you didn't worship God the way I want you to worship it, then we're going to execute you.

00:53:57.000 Similar to what this Joaquin guy, like, if they don't do it the way I want them to do it.

00:54:00.000 So they would use it as a system of control.

00:54:02.000 And you had someone like Luther, Martin Luther, I think he said, it's between you and God.

00:54:06.000 It has nothing to do with the church.

00:54:07.000 Forget about those, the business, the bureaucrats.

00:54:10.000 And they tried to kill him for that.

00:54:12.000 And so I think people hate the business of church.

00:54:16.000 Not that they have, and they don't even know what God is or understand the emotions attached with experiencing that vibration.

00:54:23.000 I completely agree with everything you just said.

00:54:25.000 Yeah, I think people are turned off by religion, especially, you know, very dogmatic, legalistic religion.

00:54:32.000 It can have very negative consequences.

00:54:34.000 But it's hard not to think that the other part is that people don't want to have to be accountable for themselves, right?

00:54:39.000 Like, if you have Christian, there's morality, there are things that are right and wrong that you have to hold yourself accountable to, that there are higher values, you set your eyes on the things above.

00:54:49.000 If you want to live an indulgent lifestyle here and now and only think about what concerns you today, then why would you want to be religious, right? 0.76

00:54:58.000 If your pleasure comes from momentary satisfaction or pursuing things that are wrong and bad for your soul, then like Of course you're not going to go to church, of course you're not interested.

00:55:08.000 And you can say, I think there are people who have been harmed by, you know, exactly what you're talking about, but I think there are also people who want to live for their own pleasure and have no higher moral consequences.

00:55:18.000 Completely agree.

00:55:19.000 I mean, I'm going to be 50 this year.

00:55:22.000 And so my generation, Gen Xers, we're the first post-sexual revolution, first porn generation, mainstream porn generation in America.

00:55:32.000 My mom got pregnant with me at 15, actually 14, by her high school senior boyfriend.

00:55:37.000 Found out over Christmas break of 1972.

00:55:39.000 Then January, a month later, we get Roe versus Wade.

00:55:45.000 Originally, the cutoff was the first trimester.

00:55:46.000 She's right at the cutoff.

00:55:48.000 She has time, she can go get an abortion. 1.00

00:55:50.000 Her mom is twice divorced, five kids from two different marriages, living in the white trash part of town. 1.00

00:55:56.000 That wasn't easy to do 50 years ago, let alone now, okay? 0.97

00:56:00.000 She decides in the end she can't go through with an abortion, so she has me at 15. 0.92

00:56:06.000 We were on food stamps, ADC, all of that.

00:56:08.000 She ends up marrying a guy out of the Navy who came from a very abusive background.

00:56:14.000 He was very abusive to us physically, mentally, verbally.

00:56:18.000 I had a hard time for many, many years.

00:56:19.000 I didn't become a Christian until I was 30.

00:56:22.000 And most stats show if you're not one by the time you're 18, the odds you'll become one are very, very low.

00:56:28.000 Why?

00:56:28.000 Because a lot of times our first notions of God as a Father come from the Father that we had in our own home.

00:56:35.000 And if the Father in our own home cannot properly model that to us, the older we get, the harder it is for us to grasp that concept.

00:56:42.000 And so it was very difficult for me to understand the idea of an altruistic God.

00:56:47.000 It was very difficult for me to accept that.

00:56:50.000 It was very difficult for me to look at the evil in the world and think that such an altruistic being could exist.

00:56:55.000 It was very difficult for... Then, of course, I liked the way I was living and didn't want to change, as you just pointed out.

00:57:01.000 And then I realized there's a missing component in all of this.

00:57:04.000 We're all very anxious to question God's character.

00:57:08.000 When do we start questioning our own?

00:57:11.000 When does the questioning of our character begin?

00:57:14.000 And then you have to ask, well, who among us has the wherewithal to judge one another's character?

00:57:19.000 Are you perfect?

00:57:20.000 You?

00:57:21.000 You?

00:57:21.000 I'm not.

00:57:22.000 So then we all realize no one's perfect, so no one can judge our character, so guess then what we don't have any more of?

00:57:28.000 Character.

00:57:29.000 No one's held accountable for anything.

00:57:31.000 And so you have this systemic societal collapse, and that becomes a feedback loop, and that's where we are now.

00:57:38.000 And that's why I said we need revival.

00:57:39.000 We need to remember that there is a creator, There is a better way than this.

00:57:45.000 And yeah, you are correct, Ian.

00:57:46.000 We could sit here with every worldview and we could pick out a few moments.

00:57:50.000 I mean...

00:57:52.000 Have you ever had your heart broken by a woman before? 0.95

00:57:54.000 Yes.

00:57:54.000 Did you proclaim celibacy?

00:57:56.000 For like five years, yeah.

00:57:58.000 Did you?

00:57:59.000 Okay, but are you celibate now?

00:58:00.000 No.

00:58:01.000 Are all women terrible because a few broke your heart and disappointed you?

00:58:04.000 No, but they were for like seven years, man, and I made a lot of videos about my hate for women. 1.00

00:58:08.000 And you were hurt, yeah.

00:58:09.000 But eventually though, the need that you had for that companionship, for that intimacy, eventually that need won out, did it not?

00:58:18.000 Say that one more time?

00:58:19.000 The need for companionship, for intimacy.

00:58:22.000 That need that you had, that desire, went out over the anger and the bitterness that you experienced because of the way your heart was broken, right?

00:58:29.000 I think I didn't know.

00:58:30.000 I couldn't sense the need.

00:58:32.000 I was desensitized to the want of a woman, of the connection of a relationship, of emotions, for like a decade.

00:58:38.000 That was the end, but then I just decided to start over again.

00:58:42.000 I would encourage you, I would encourage you, open up a Bible, just you and God, one-on-one.

00:58:48.000 Give God that exact same shot.

00:58:51.000 Because a lot of the historical examples you're going to cite are true.

00:58:54.000 Christians, Catholics and Protestants littered the fields of Europe with blood post-Protestant Reformation for a century. 0.77

00:59:01.000 Our country figured out a way to keep those forces at bay through the things that Tim talked about that were enumerated in the Constitution.

00:59:08.000 That's what no religious test for office meant.

00:59:10.000 You've got all these colonies that are all founded by different vestiges of the Christian Church, and literally if you were a different denomination you couldn't vote or be a citizen in some of these other colonies.

00:59:18.000 They figured out ways to lawfully navigate those differences.

00:59:22.000 But I would urge, and I'd urge not just you, anyone within the sound of my voice, This thing is doomed unless more of us get recreated with our creator.

00:59:32.000 And I would urge you, just open up a Bible, you and your creator, one-on-one, and see if he answers.

00:59:38.000 You know what's funny is that a lot of liberals are starting to come around to this.

00:59:42.000 Granted, most liberals aren't, but there are disaffected liberal types who I'm hearing, I don't want to call anybody out, but there are a few examples Of prominent classical and traditional liberals who are saying, I'm not religious but I now recognize the importance of religion and society.

00:59:56.000 Maybe I can give a shout out to at least one.

00:59:58.000 I think James Lindsay has talked about this.

00:59:59.000 There's a few others.

01:00:01.000 For me, I grew up Catholic.

01:00:04.000 So my family was always to a certain degree Catholic.

01:00:08.000 For me, though, I kind of drifted away from it, but I've long talked about this and there was a period where I was like, I'm an atheist, but the way I would describe it now is I didn't understand anything about God when I was a kid because I didn't know what people were talking about, didn't understand what atheism was as a teenager because it was, again, just people around me until I actually started to read for myself and then ultimately studying, reading books on physics and I was reading the internet and trying to learn about time and Then I started to think about all the things I learned in religious class when I was at Catholic school, and I was like, wait a minute, and I started to see a bigger picture here.

01:00:39.000 But I think, interestingly, what many people have talked about, Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, when they did the initial Sokol Squared hoax, I did a podcast with them talking about how this wokeness is a non-theistic religion.

01:00:53.000 It has filled the gap.

01:00:54.000 It's filled the gap.

01:00:54.000 Yeah.

01:00:55.000 Absolutely, yeah.

01:00:56.000 But the issue is, it is chaos to traditional religion's order.

01:01:02.000 And I think what you end up with is, the one way I'll put it this way, the stories I heard when I was younger about Christians came from liberals, and it was, I would describe as mostly anti-religious propaganda.

01:01:14.000 When I actually started to meet real conservatives and Christians, I was like, these people are nothing like they've been described to me.

01:01:22.000 And ain't that the story of the culture war we're hearing right now?

01:01:24.000 Absolutely. 0.99

01:01:25.000 Trump's a fascist, the far right, they're evil, they're racist, because they want to keep people on one side of the fire. 1.00

01:01:31.000 Correct. 1.00

01:01:32.000 And they want to say there's a wall of fire, don't go near it, it'll burn you.

01:01:35.000 But on the other side, people are chillin', they're good people.

01:01:38.000 And so I remember one of the important stories for me was meeting a friend, I was in the suburbs of Chicago where it was more conservative, and they were pro-life, and I'd never talked to someone who was pro-life before, and they gave me very sound, reasonable explanations for their beliefs.

01:01:51.000 They weren't too dissimilar to what my family had said, but they were a little bit on the other side, and I was like, well, these are normal arguments.

01:01:58.000 This is not crazy.

01:01:59.000 These people aren't insane.

01:02:01.000 What was all this stuff I was being told?

01:02:03.000 So now what I think you see is, With wokeness, you have what I would describe as just fire.

01:02:08.000 It is spreading.

01:02:09.000 It is a chemical reaction.

01:02:10.000 It is a chaotic and destructive force.

01:02:12.000 It's the Joaquin Phoenix Joker.

01:02:13.000 It's the Joaquin Phoenix Joker.

01:02:14.000 It's zombification.

01:02:17.000 It's the zombie undead version of our culture, of the things we believe.

01:02:21.000 Racism is bad.

01:02:23.000 We want to get away from that.

01:02:24.000 We want equality.

01:02:25.000 The Constitution guarantees it.

01:02:27.000 And then you get this zombified corpse version That's actually just infecting and destroying the institutions that we are actually trying to protect.

01:02:36.000 We want to get rid of the bad stuff, keep the good stuff, and build upon it.

01:02:39.000 It's just consuming everything and destroying it.

01:02:42.000 The most dangerous conversation in America is the one Ian and I were just having.

01:02:48.000 That's the most dangerous conversation.

01:02:50.000 People who have some disparate views on a very important topic but are willing to sit down in a setting publicly in front of other people and hash them out and discuss them openly, share their own personal perspectives.

01:03:05.000 of what's gone on in their own lives, as to why they've they came to some of the conclusions they

01:03:09.000 did, or why they have yet to come to those conclusions, or took them to. This is how we

01:03:15.000 actually come now in reason together. The wokeness religion that you just described,

01:03:19.000 everything that it does is to avoid this kind of a conversation from occurring.

01:03:25.000 Whether it's about faith, whether it's about ideology, whether it's about political parties, whether it's about particular issues, it's all to avoid this kind of neighborly conversation that allows differences to get discussed and hashed out.

01:03:40.000 We've got to do a hard segue and progress this because we do have this story here from TimCast.com.

01:03:47.000 Zelensky warns of World War III if China allies with Russia.

01:03:52.000 I do see an opportunity for China to make a pragmatic assessment of what is happening here.

01:03:57.000 I want to bring this up because for those that are just tuning in or just jumping into the segment, we were talking about religion, cultural decay, societal decay.

01:04:06.000 Joe Biden, the President of the United States, went on a surprise visit to Ukraine with a $500 million gift.

01:04:14.000 You know who could use $500 million?

01:04:16.000 Flint, Michigan?

01:04:16.000 People in Ohio?

01:04:18.000 People in Flint, Michigan.

01:04:19.000 Project Veritas?

01:04:19.000 Shouldering in foster care in America?

01:04:22.000 I say yes to Project Veritas, but, you know, in all seriousness, Pittsburgh's got a pipe problem, Newark's got a pipe problem.

01:04:27.000 How about we sprinkle some iron dust into the rivers in East Palestine and then put a magnet in there? 0.76

01:04:32.000 Because what happens is the oil coagulates around the iron particles, and then you can use a magnet to get the oil out.

01:04:37.000 Did you guys hear Greta Thunberg's going to... Just kidding. 1.00

01:04:40.000 Go ahead.

01:04:40.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:41.000 She doesn't want to get sick.

01:04:42.000 It's this simple.

01:04:44.000 We're being warned of World War 3.

01:04:47.000 Zelensky says if China allies with Russia, we're being told the world is on the brink of destruction.

01:04:52.000 Why would there be World War 3 if China allies with Russia? 0.84

01:04:55.000 Oh, what he's actually saying is because the U.S.

01:04:58.000 will blindly and unapologetically give Ukraine all the support that it ever wants if China and Russia team up.

01:05:06.000 Yes, the U.S.

01:05:07.000 will fall in line behind Zelensky and go into an international conflict between two superpowers or two world powers.

01:05:13.000 Jimmy Dore was saying that how Zelensky is really falling in line behind the war machine. 0.69

01:05:18.000 And if he says, no, we're going to have peace, that they'll just kill him. 0.62

01:05:21.000 And I think so. 0.85

01:05:23.000 I'm just I see this World War Three. 0.57

01:05:26.000 What if the U.S.

01:05:27.000 just says that we're not interested in war, not over Ukraine?

01:05:29.000 What if Russia and China team up and they say we're now going to take Ukraine and the U.S. 0.57

01:05:33.000 went.

01:05:34.000 You were not Ukraine, have a nice day. 0.99

01:05:36.000 What he's saying is, the U.S.

01:05:38.000 will do what Ukraine wants.

01:05:40.000 Well, especially since we've already poisoned all of our citizens to be obsessed with Ukraine. 0.77

01:05:45.000 Do you remember all the flags everywhere all the time?

01:05:47.000 Like, we made this an issue that apparently, especially liberal-leaning voters are going to die on, right?

01:05:52.000 So if Biden backs out, if he says, oh, actually, I'm going to cut off funds, then his base will turn on him and be like, how could you abandon the poor people of Ukraine?

01:06:00.000 I wish that were true.

01:06:01.000 I think they'll actually just Oh, great.

01:06:04.000 Yeah.

01:06:04.000 Okay, then I think they're that compliant.

01:06:07.000 I think Joe Biden could do this on camera and say, this is our new foreign policy.

01:06:11.000 Fart noises in the armpit.

01:06:12.000 And that'll be their new avatar on Twitter tomorrow.

01:06:16.000 I've got a pair of Vans shoes.

01:06:18.000 They're blue with like a yellow stripe on it.

01:06:20.000 And I've had people be like- They're West Virginia colors.

01:06:23.000 Or the Ukraine colors.

01:06:24.000 Exactly.

01:06:25.000 And I've had people be like, oh, you know, blue.

01:06:27.000 I'm like, come on, man, just choose.

01:06:29.000 West Virginia forever.

01:06:30.000 West Virginia shoes!

01:06:32.000 We'll just call them West Virginia shoes.

01:06:33.000 This issue... Isn't that weird?

01:06:35.000 ...with Ukraine is my last nerve. 0.79

01:06:39.000 And this is hard for me to say as a kid who's a child of the 80s, who grew up in the We're America Bitch 80s, who wore Alex P. Keaton monogrammed sweater vests, okay, and got up in the middle of the night to cheer Reagan bombing Gaddafi back to the Neolithic period. 0.66

01:06:56.000 This is hard for me to say, okay.

01:07:01.000 You're taking my high school age son to fight and die in Ukraine, literally over my dead body. 0.69

01:07:08.000 I'm never allowing that.

01:07:09.000 I'm never letting you take him to die for your Habsburg dynasty, World War I, needless 20 million pile of deaths replay over your elites pissing contest. 0.91

01:07:20.000 Not happening.

01:07:20.000 I don't care what the threat is.

01:07:21.000 I don't care what the penalty is.

01:07:23.000 And if you think you're drafting my daughters, get the camps ready because you're going to need them.

01:07:26.000 Never happening.

01:07:27.000 This is an example.

01:07:29.000 If history doesn't just repeat, it rhymes.

01:07:32.000 These are a bunch of elites, a little cabal that throw Putin, all of them, all in together.

01:07:38.000 This is a Habsburg dynasty pissing contest over a strip of land most people can't find, don't care about, has no strategic value to anybody within the sound of my voice unless they're involved in investing money with Hunter Biden.

01:07:50.000 This thing is such a crock.

01:07:52.000 It's so fake. 0.96

01:07:53.000 It's so phony. 0.99

01:07:54.000 It's one of the most simplistic, disgusting stories I've ever seen. 0.88

01:07:58.000 It's one of the most cynical stories I've ever seen. 1.00

01:08:00.000 It's wag the dog, but dumber. 0.99

01:08:03.000 And this, to me, is the final straw of just absolute civil disobedience. 1.00

01:08:10.000 We're never fighting your damn war. 0.99

01:08:13.000 Hell no. 0.99

01:08:13.000 I think it's such pageantry. 0.99

01:08:15.000 I think you're totally right.

01:08:15.000 It's all fake.

01:08:17.000 I mean, the fact that Zelensky can come to our Congress and not manage to put on a suit, Joe Biden goes to see him wearing a suit, like, he's playing a character.

01:08:25.000 It's so bizarre.

01:08:26.000 He's the only world leader on the brink of war, apparently, or in the middle of war, who has to be in, I guess, camo?

01:08:33.000 Or whatever, to convey to these people that yes, in fact, we are fighting.

01:08:36.000 So much so that he has time to do a Vogue cover shoot with his wife.

01:08:40.000 I mean, it's just bizarre.

01:08:42.000 He's got time for U2 concerts?

01:08:42.000 U2?

01:08:43.000 He's got time for U2.

01:08:44.000 He's got time to make major public appearances around the world via Zoom, I guess.

01:08:49.000 He can't leave his country.

01:08:50.000 But it's all for show.

01:08:52.000 He has to continuously say, this is so drastic.

01:08:56.000 Of course, Lindsey Graham is saying, oh, Mitch McConnell, with his Ukrainian tie.

01:09:01.000 The most important issue in the country today is Ukraine.

01:09:06.000 Okay?

01:09:07.000 Lindsey Graham-nesty.

01:09:09.000 Well, I don't care about provoking Putin.

01:09:11.000 Of course you don't.

01:09:13.000 Because you don't have any sons.

01:09:14.000 You made that lifestyle choice.

01:09:15.000 You don't have any sons.

01:09:16.000 So nobody with your DNA, Lindsey, is going out there on those battlefields to frickin' die for somebody's trust fund or grift fund.

01:09:23.000 It'll be our sons.

01:09:24.000 Those of us who do have children, they're the ones that'll go out there.

01:09:27.000 It won't be Hunter Biden.

01:09:29.000 I mean, he's tried to kill himself with enough crack, we all know that, but it won't be him doing it.

01:09:32.000 It won't be their sons dying.

01:09:34.000 It'll be ours. 0.96

01:09:35.000 Hell to the no.

01:09:36.000 Never happening. 1.00

01:09:37.000 Shove it up your ass. 1.00

01:09:38.000 We're never doing this. 1.00

01:09:39.000 But I think you need more Americans saying stuff like that.

01:09:41.000 I remember when my brother, he was a Marine, he deployed to Afghanistan.

01:09:45.000 Did any of us think we should be there?

01:09:47.000 It was crazy!

01:09:48.000 And yet we have been sending people to wars because we say they're supposed to be there for a long time.

01:09:54.000 I hope that Ukraine is a wake-up call, right, that these are people who should not be going, that we're sending anyways for pointless things, but I just don't know that it will be. 0.99

01:10:03.000 I hope it is.

01:10:05.000 I like that you are likening it to the Habsburg dynasty, which was like a family that was obsessed with keeping the Germans in the... I don't know the actual, the literal history of the Habsburg family exactly.

01:10:14.000 They were all married.

01:10:14.000 They were all related.

01:10:15.000 Did they have... Was that where they had like the weird jaws and like the deformities from... They were like east of Germany. 0.99

01:10:21.000 Were they like Austro-Hungarian?

01:10:22.000 It was many after a certain point.

01:10:25.000 And they wanted... Inbreeding, basically.

01:10:25.000 It was just a lot of people.

01:10:27.000 And they were trying to control the descent within Europe?

01:10:31.000 Yes.

01:10:31.000 So they like that the Germans and the Russians are fighting because... If the Germans had won World War I, What would have been different?

01:10:36.000 What was World War I thought about?

01:10:38.000 Nothing!

01:10:38.000 It was a pissing contest of elites.

01:10:42.000 My wing of the Habsburg dynasty will rule over yours, and that'll cost 20 million lives. 1.00

01:10:47.000 The only good thing we did in World War I is perfected friggin' distribution of mustard gas. 0.75

01:10:53.000 We didn't do anything else!

01:10:55.000 Wasn't it like three cousins that went to war?

01:10:57.000 Yeah, they're all related.

01:10:59.000 All the Habsburgs, by the time we got to 1914, they're all related.

01:11:04.000 This intermarrying within these empires had gone on for centuries.

01:11:08.000 They're all related by the time we get there.

01:11:10.000 And so it's just literally a playground. 1.00

01:11:14.000 Draw a line in the sand, cross this line, your ass is mine. 1.00

01:11:17.000 That's what we used to say when I was a kid. 1.00

01:11:18.000 All right, so they archduke Ferdinand's nephew gets assassinated.

01:11:25.000 They cross the line.

01:11:27.000 Now the other alliances come in, cross the line.

01:11:29.000 Before you know it now, the guns of August have fired.

01:11:33.000 20 million people died for nothing.

01:11:36.000 All we did in World War I was lay waste to Germany to give birth to the Third Reich and the worst regime that's probably ever existed in the history of humanity. 0.98

01:11:44.000 Was it like just a It's an arms development research program, the war, under the guise of a war, like we wanna see how our tanks fight against our tanks.

01:11:50.000 As a kid born to a 15-year-old mommy, and I don't know what it's like to have so much of that inherent privilege that after a while you're just like, I gotta fire off some of these rounds because I can't just throw them away.

01:12:01.000 I don't know the answer to your question.

01:12:02.000 I mean, my mom, I was on food stamps as a kid, so I don't know the answer to that question.

01:12:06.000 All I know is there is no, if you look at traditional Christian just war theory, Fighting and dying for Ukraine, morally, is not a just war.

01:12:17.000 Period.

01:12:19.000 I agree with that sentiment.

01:12:21.000 Well, at least from this perspective, it doesn't look like it.

01:12:24.000 I think that he wants Sevastopol, the trade port, and that he wants East 105, that freeway going down.

01:12:30.000 If we act like dickheads, he's going to want East 97 and East 105, everything east of the Dnipro River.

01:12:34.000 But, I mean, I don't see why Armistice isn't the focus. 0.93

01:12:38.000 I am no fan of Vladimir Putin.

01:12:39.000 I can't tell you how many times Russia Today tried to book me on their shows, and I never returned their calls.

01:12:44.000 That all being said, Vladimir Putin didn't try to turn me into an experiment for Pfizer and Moderna for the last two years.

01:12:51.000 Vladimir Putin didn't say, by the way, if you did not consent to being a member of said experiment, you can't work.

01:12:57.000 Like literally like Mark of the Beast, you can't buy or sell stuff because how the hell are you going to buy or sell anything?

01:13:01.000 You don't have a job, all right?

01:13:03.000 So you can't work.

01:13:04.000 Vladimir Putin didn't say, hey, your family business is not essential.

01:13:07.000 That business that your family's had for a hundred years, that family farm, it's not essential anymore.

01:13:11.000 It's gotta go.

01:13:12.000 We don't even need to be so specific, to be completely honest.

01:13:14.000 Vladimir Putin's under the doorstep.

01:13:16.000 The Soviet Union doesn't exist.

01:13:18.000 It collapsed.

01:13:19.000 And this is a border dispute with Russia and Ukraine that, for some reason, the U.S.

01:13:23.000 thinks it's worth going to World War III over.

01:13:25.000 So, I agree with your sentiment.

01:13:27.000 I agree with that, too.

01:13:28.000 If you look at our biggest problems, I often say to my audience on The Blaze or my Twitter feed, the calls are coming from inside the house.

01:13:37.000 The calls are coming from inside the house.

01:13:39.000 You want to go to war with China?

01:13:41.000 How about maybe taking back control of your medical supply that you gave them 80% of the manufacturing?

01:13:47.000 We can't go to war with them. 0.84

01:13:48.000 Dude, they actually make some of our own weapon systems.

01:13:52.000 We're gonna go war with the country that makes 80% of our antibiotics and some of our high-tech weapon systems that most of our elites want to be like anyway. 1.00

01:14:02.000 The calls are coming from inside the house.

01:14:04.000 The battle is here.

01:14:05.000 We've talked about this quite a bit.

01:14:07.000 What would happen if China declared war on the U.S.

01:14:10.000 right now?

01:14:11.000 If they said, we are officially warring states, back the F off.

01:14:16.000 Vitamin C, antibiotics, Skateboards would be gone.

01:14:21.000 People have no idea how much of the standard products we get are made in China and shipped here.

01:14:27.000 If China said we're at war and cut off trade, what, half of our box stores would be empty.

01:14:33.000 You'd be like, wait, I can't get medicine anymore?

01:14:36.000 No, it's actually made in China.

01:14:36.000 No.

01:14:38.000 Isn't that crazy? 1.00

01:14:39.000 They'd be just as screwed. 0.98

01:14:40.000 So I don't think it doesn't really make sense for it. 0.99

01:14:42.000 Just as screwed? 0.94

01:14:43.000 I'm not so convinced. 0.96

01:14:45.000 Oh yeah, good point.

01:14:46.000 Then they'd only have the amount of farmland they own and they could just go Stalingrad on us and just burn the farmland to cut off our supply chain.

01:14:52.000 I mean, we're in this position because the great experiment of utopian progressivism, globalism, didn't work.

01:15:02.000 And the reason it didn't work is it ignores the basics of human nature.

01:15:08.000 This is how crazy the times have gone.

01:15:10.000 When I got into this business 15 years ago, Bill Maher was doing documentaries like Religious.

01:15:18.000 I was doing whole shows debating him on that.

01:15:21.000 Now I do shows where I play clips of Bill Maher and affirmatively quote him.

01:15:26.000 Even though I'm not sure he's changed any of his views and I know I sure as hell haven't changed any of mine.

01:15:30.000 But at least the old culture war, I liked the old culture war. 0.98

01:15:36.000 The old culture war where people like me and people like Mar debated, we both agreed first of all that individuals have some agency and human beings have some rights of conscience.

01:15:46.000 And the debates that people like me and people like Mar were having is what's the limit on that right of conscience, right?

01:15:51.000 He basically is, by his own admission, a libertine.

01:15:54.000 He basically made the Marquis de Sade argument.

01:15:57.000 If I'm not hurting anybody else, nobody else's problem.

01:16:00.000 Do what thou wilt.

01:16:01.000 That is the whole of the law.

01:16:02.000 That was essentially his argument, okay?

01:16:04.000 People like me made the argument, well there's a little bit more to it because the one that gave us our agency and the one that gave us that conscience has a few rights of limiting it that we need to listen to for our own good.

01:16:15.000 And that was the argument that we had is, did people like me go too far?

01:16:19.000 People like him go too far?

01:16:21.000 Somewhere in the middle a reasonable society could emerge.

01:16:24.000 The new argument now is, you have no individual agency at all.

01:16:28.000 You have no rights of conscience at all.

01:16:30.000 And so this is why, without changing our positions on literally anything, this is why Bill Maher and Steve Dace are saying a lot of the same things right now.

01:16:38.000 Because we are both recognizing that old argument about agency and conscience is out the window.

01:16:43.000 We're actually having an argument whether we have any agency or conscience whatsoever.

01:16:47.000 Are we totally wards of the state from the moment we breathe?

01:16:50.000 But also I think Bill Maher started finally paying attention to the news.

01:16:54.000 I think he knew more than he was letting on for a while and he just didn't want to say anything because his audience is, it's liberals.

01:17:01.000 But he got to that point where he's seen this stuff and he's like, I just can't anymore.

01:17:05.000 The issue, and this is exemplified by the Prager episode where Prager said they're putting tampons in men's room and the men's room and Bill Maher laughed and the audience laughed and everyone said, oh it's not true.

01:17:15.000 And then Bill was like, that's for their girlfriends!

01:17:17.000 What are you talking about?

01:17:19.000 And Prager was completely correct.

01:17:21.000 So I think, has Bill Maher apologized for that?

01:17:25.000 I think he may have addressed it.

01:17:26.000 I think I talked about it recently, I can't remember.

01:17:28.000 But what we've been watching for a decade, Bill Maher has only started paying attention to in the past couple of years.

01:17:34.000 So I wonder if the issue is simply, all of those things you were worried about 10 years ago in the old culture war, Bill just didn't read.

01:17:42.000 So he didn't know what he was talking about.

01:17:44.000 Did he really think that tampons were in men's bathrooms to bring to their girlfriends? 0.73

01:17:48.000 When Dennis Prager brought up that, Dennis Prager said, if you claim a man can menstruate, you're a liar. 0.60

01:17:55.000 And everyone laughs.

01:17:56.000 And he goes, that's what they're starting to claim.

01:17:58.000 And Bill's like, who?

01:17:59.000 Who's saying it?

01:17:59.000 He's like, it's in the media, it's all over the news, Google it, just Google search it, you'll see it.

01:18:03.000 And then they all start laughing.

01:18:04.000 He's like, they're putting tampons in the men's room.

01:18:06.000 And then Bill goes, that's for their girlfriends, come on, no one's saying this.

01:18:11.000 And they're all just laughing at him.

01:18:14.000 Of course, Prager was completely correct.

01:18:16.000 But Bill Maher, he's in his 60s.

01:18:19.000 He's not paying attention to what's going on.

01:18:20.000 He has no idea what's going on at these universities.

01:18:22.000 He doesn't read the news.

01:18:23.000 But he is now.

01:18:23.000 That's the wonderful thing.

01:18:25.000 Well, maybe when his publicist came to him and said, hey, they're calling you a Nazi.

01:18:29.000 He was like, what?

01:18:30.000 Me?

01:18:30.000 They're like, yeah, because you said these things.

01:18:31.000 What?

01:18:32.000 Oh, I bet he went, because in the early 2000s, his show, Politically Incorrect, was off the chain, awesome, and then he got kicked off TV because he was too hot for TV.

01:18:39.000 Tell him the truth about the war machine.

01:18:41.000 What did he say?

01:18:42.000 He said that the guys that hijacked the planes were probably not cowards, because that was a brave thing to do, to throw your life away for something you believe in.

01:18:49.000 No, you can't say that.

01:18:50.000 Yeah.

01:18:50.000 Well, then what happens is you go into hibernation, where it's like, I just got to pretend like everything's fine.

01:18:56.000 No, no, no, he got older.

01:18:56.000 And then finally, you can't take it anymore.

01:18:58.000 He got older.

01:19:00.000 He got older.

01:19:01.000 He's not consuming the up-to-date information on things.

01:19:04.000 Like, I'm not gonna be able to come here and tell you about the latest TikTok trend.

01:19:06.000 I don't know.

01:19:07.000 And in 10 years, when all of these young people who have built up big followings on TikTok are now talking politics, I'm not gonna see what they're saying.

01:19:14.000 Of course, me understanding that issue, I try to have a better connection to the generation's concerns in the political arena, of which, right now, as millennials, I'm entering.

01:19:27.000 The end of my 30s, I'll be 37 in about two weeks.

01:19:31.000 So for younger people, what do we do?

01:19:34.000 Well, we've got, you know, you're young-ish, I guess.

01:19:37.000 It's me, I'm a token female young person.

01:19:38.000 There you go, we're bringing young people.

01:19:40.000 And we try to pay attention to what younger people are talking about, but there's a lot less younger people who care about politics, and that's the way it tends to be.

01:19:47.000 When Bill Maher turned 60, And millennials are now in their 30s inheriting these systems and saying... Raising kids of their own.

01:19:54.000 Raising kids.

01:19:55.000 Having a perspective beyond just their own selfishness.

01:19:58.000 And seeing what the schools are doing.

01:20:00.000 Seeing what they're teaching their kids.

01:20:02.000 They're talking about it.

01:20:04.000 You get Loudoun County, you get that fight. 0.95

01:20:06.000 And Bill Maher, in his 60s, doesn't pay attention to these mediums, has no idea what's going on, and I'd be willing to bet the only reason he came to the position where he is now, calling it out, is because he kept getting notes from his publicist saying, you're a Nazi today, you're a white supremacist tomorrow. 0.74

01:20:22.000 And Bill was probably like, what is this? 0.73

01:20:24.000 What are they complaining about?

01:20:25.000 Why am I getting negative press from all of these people?

01:20:28.000 Then he gets half-introduced to what everyone else is talking about, now he's like, this is crazy, people are yelling at me for this stuff?

01:20:36.000 If Bill Maher actually paid attention to a show like this, or to the commentary we've had for the past several years, or even like the Lotus Eaters podcast with Carl Benjamin for a decade, He'd be well-versed on the modern culture wars.

01:20:47.000 But it's not just that he doesn't pay attention.

01:20:50.000 It's that, I think this is true for most demographics, generations, they care about their peers.

01:20:57.000 I don't pay attention to what Gen Xers are paying attention to. 0.97

01:21:00.000 Bill Maher is a boomer, I think.

01:21:02.000 I haven't seen Billie Eilish on his show yet.

01:21:04.000 And Bill Maher!

01:21:05.000 Not that he wouldn't have her.

01:21:06.000 I only know who that is because of my own kids, so there you go.

01:21:10.000 Bill Maher most likely cares about people in his surrounding demographic.

01:21:14.000 Which is nice about what's happening, because it's like he emerged from the Matrix out of that tank of wet goo, and he's like pulling other people out of it with him, like Bryan Cranston.

01:21:24.000 People that are like 65, 60 year old Normies that are really influential are friends with Bill, so like, he's kind of a tip of a spear for that generation.

01:21:34.000 His new, um, I saw him and Cranston did an episode of his new show, uh, what is it?

01:21:39.000 Where they're just hanging out?

01:21:39.000 Club Random?

01:21:40.000 Yeah.

01:21:41.000 And they're like, both like gently kind of acknowledging the culture war and like how crazy stuff is.

01:21:48.000 As an aside, we're gonna be, uh, I'm gonna be launching a new show that's basically just Sitting down and talking to people.

01:21:54.000 That's great, dude.

01:21:55.000 Are you going to publicly announce the specifics?

01:21:58.000 The dates, the times, all that?

01:21:59.000 We've got to figure out when we're going to publish it.

01:22:00.000 We're going to record it on Friday mornings, because Friday mornings are just garbage news days, and the views are way down, people are a lot less interested.

01:22:09.000 I know it's not for people who like watching the news segments on Fridays, but it's just like journalists are all checked out, and I'm like, it's an opportunity to do a different show.

01:22:16.000 So we have a guest coming this Friday, I believe, And it's going to be cultural, but it's not going to be news topics like we do here, talking about current events.

01:22:26.000 It's going to be just an open conversation.

01:22:27.000 What I love about the open convo is because that's how you envelop the spirit of the individual.

01:22:32.000 The real conversation is bringing the humanity out of people.

01:22:34.000 We can talk about what happened and what might happen, but you really want to talk to someone about who they are.

01:22:39.000 Man, that's when you see God.

01:22:41.000 So to clarify, I've had people say stuff like, Tim Kirstein or Roe, Tim's just trying to be like Joe Rogan,

01:22:45.000 and I'm like, we pull up the top news stories of the day, and then I have a timer where we track news story segments,

01:22:52.000 which is a combination of the guest's perspective and our perspective on current events.

01:22:56.000 What this new show is, probably be more like Rogan, it's literally just, or like Club Random.

01:23:00.000 I'm gonna sit down and be like, hey, what's up?

01:23:02.000 This is who you are, let's have a conversation.

01:23:04.000 So it's like something we don't actually do in full.

01:23:06.000 It's hard for me not to think that people who say, oh, this is like Joe Rogan,

01:23:09.000 don't really watch either one of those shows.

01:23:10.000 They're obviously different as soon as you watch them.

01:23:12.000 It'd be like saying, oh, that crime show's like, Law and Order SVU, like.

01:23:17.000 Tucker Carlson is the exact same as.

01:23:20.000 This is more like The View, get it straight.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:24.000 And I did want to say, sorry to cut you off, the only thing I was going to say is, I just looked it up while we were talking, and Bill Maher doesn't have any children, so what you're saying, like the reason that you know who this pop singer is is because you have children, the people who keep you alert to what's going on in your school system, the people who you have to think, well what's in their best interest, what are their concerns, you know, some people, If you didn't have kids like I'm not gonna speculate on why but it is interesting that this coincides with the push especially for young women not to have children to say why we got that crazy list why you know 300 reasons why you should definitely not have children they're bad and even the good reasons are actually bad you know there is a push to keep people away

01:24:02.000 from being connected to generations as well as to people within their own community.

01:24:06.000 It's really sad.

01:24:08.000 Intergenerational communication is so key.

01:24:10.000 I love Internet video games for that reason.

01:24:12.000 I'm still tapped into like what a 14 how a 14 year old thinks.

01:24:15.000 I mean, I don't like get down 14 year olds intentionally, but it's fun to know.

01:24:19.000 It's so important.

01:24:20.000 If you play a game like if you play online video games on PlayStation, you just oh man, I like playing Human Fall Flat.

01:24:29.000 You play that game?

01:24:29.000 I've not played that.

01:24:30.000 It's it's a silly game and you like you're a guy and you have you can like grab stuff and you climb up It's it's a weird control.

01:24:36.000 I don't know how to describe it You're just like a little dude trying to like climb obstacles and make it to the exit But don't turn on the audio because if you turn it on all you'll hear is like ten-year-olds going And I'm like, okay.

01:24:50.000 If you want to figure out what the kids are up to, just play Call of Duty and then you'll get some 12-year-old.

01:24:53.000 I'm playing Hogwarts Legacy with my teenage son right now.

01:24:56.000 Yeah, I'm playing that now, but not with my teenage son.

01:24:58.000 I don't have one.

01:24:59.000 That game's incredible.

01:25:00.000 Oh, wow.

01:25:00.000 Good game.

01:25:00.000 I like it.

01:25:01.000 We're going to go to Super Chats pretty soon, but I want to ask you about your book, The Rise of the Fourth Reich, because we've been talking about COVID, basically the government reactions to COVID.

01:25:08.000 That's what this book's about?

01:25:09.000 Correct.

01:25:10.000 What is it about that that you saw that had in common with the Third Reich, which is Hitler's organization, his Nazi organization?

01:25:17.000 So a lot of people know about the Nuremberg trials that came out of World War II, but there was another aspect of the Nuremberg trials.

01:25:23.000 They held separate trials for what they described basically as a biomedical fascist state, that essentially the healthcare sector had fused with the state to impose a lot of the experimentation, And was categorized as healthcare policy.

01:25:41.000 And so there was the Hippocratic Oath, the idea of human worth and dignity were totally lost via the healthcare sector.

01:25:49.000 So there was no more guardrails for anyone to go to for their humanity to get recognized once the state took it away.

01:25:57.000 Were you going to say something there, Tim?

01:25:58.000 I was going to ask you about... I'm just thinking about what we did with Japan when we brought...

01:26:04.000 Not necessarily German.

01:26:04.000 Didn't we bring over a bunch of their scientists?

01:26:06.000 Oh, you're thinking of, we brought over a bunch of the German scientists.

01:26:09.000 Paperclip, but there was also something with the Japanese scientists.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, because we learned a lot of information from Unit 731, just because they did things that we never would say were ethical to do, and they just took the information anyways, and then now we have all this, you know.

01:26:20.000 I was gonna say, I wonder if, like, war stuff, if you're talking about World War I, and I'm like, I'm wondering if that typically is their excuse for experimentation.

01:26:28.000 Unit 731, that's the general.

01:26:29.000 Yeah, like, and paperclip.

01:26:31.000 But that paperclip was mostly like, what, like physics and weapons and stuff?

01:26:34.000 Yes, yep.

01:26:35.000 And so, what we saw here is the exact same thing.

01:26:39.000 Obamacare basically ended what was left of the individual patient-provider relationship on a corporate level in much of America.

01:26:46.000 You can still find doctors that are independent, you can still go to a place like an integrative family health clinic in your area and not get sick care, but actual health care, but By and large, corporately, Obamacare ended the patient-provider system.

01:27:00.000 And you're no longer an individual.

01:27:02.000 You're not treated.

01:27:02.000 Now we've got guidelines from CDC.

01:27:05.000 This is the code.

01:27:06.000 CDC has the guidelines.

01:27:07.000 Here's how we treat you.

01:27:08.000 And all of that now was perfectly set up for when COVID came along.

01:27:13.000 All of these ham-fisted policies that we didn't look at anything individual, didn't look at individual regions, because New York's hospitals are run over, Montana's schools have to be shut down, and on and on and on it went.

01:27:25.000 And the fact that they were the tip of the spear to impose all of this, that you were never allowed to question any of it, the science was against them from the very beginning.

01:27:35.000 I think a lot of people thought that this was a substitute for the global warming debate, a bunch of right-wingers against scientific consensus.

01:27:45.000 Wrong.

01:27:46.000 The reality is there were elite scientists from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Oxford, number one rated university in the world according to U.S.

01:27:53.000 News & World Report, that pushed back against these things from the very beginning of the Imperial College survey that shut the world down.

01:28:00.000 And yet they were all ignored.

01:28:01.000 They were ignored by the Trump White House, they were ignored by every government in the world, and we just went with this ham-fisted plan instead.

01:28:08.000 They never stepped back?

01:28:10.000 When the data showed they were wrong, they showed no humility, no empathy.

01:28:14.000 They violated 90 years of science on masks that we had developed since the Spanish flu, post-World War I. We knew they didn't work against respiratory viruses.

01:28:21.000 That's why you haven't been wearing masks every cold and flu season your entire life.

01:28:25.000 They knew all of this, and yet they imposed this power instead.

01:28:29.000 Why?

01:28:30.000 We get into that in the book, and I think what really sets this book apart from other attempts that will be made to have a reckoning of this era... Go ahead.

01:28:40.000 I want to make sure we point out, they literally murdered people.

01:28:43.000 Yes.

01:28:43.000 First of all, they created the virus, guys.

01:28:45.000 They created the chimeric concoction that came out of that lab.

01:28:48.000 The same people that were working on all the solutions, the same kind of elements within NIH.

01:28:53.000 It's not a China virus.

01:28:55.000 I wish it were just their virus. 0.53

01:28:57.000 Our scientists were over there working on this with them.

01:29:00.000 That's not even in dispute at this point in time.

01:29:03.000 The big issue is how it got out of the lab and why, okay?

01:29:06.000 So, but in terms of the, that's a good point, too.

01:29:08.000 We had the, there was a study, or a paper from the University of Beijing.

01:29:13.000 Do you mention that in the book?

01:29:15.000 I think it was University of Beijing.

01:29:16.000 You want to fact check me on this one?

01:29:17.000 Where they said that bats had bitten and peed on people in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that could be how the SARS-CoV-2 may have gotten out of the lab.

01:29:26.000 Then, abruptly, it was rescinded, and they said, nope, nope, we're wrong about that.

01:29:30.000 But, I don't want to deviate.

01:29:31.000 What I wanted to bring up was, we can talk about mandates and lockdowns, But they literally killed people, and I want to just make sure we can be specific about this.

01:29:41.000 They took COVID patients and put them in nursing homes with the most vulnerable populations.

01:29:47.000 In at least five states.

01:29:48.000 In at least five states.

01:29:49.000 And why was a 30-year-old being put in a nursing home with elderly people who are at risk?

01:29:57.000 Why were they not—was it the Comfort?

01:29:59.000 Was the ship in New York?

01:30:01.000 We can make up every argument in the world about why they decided not to use the Javits Center, why they decided not to put the ships that Trump sent in to use those facilities, and instead took people with COVID who should not be in nursing homes and put them there.

01:30:16.000 We get into the whole gamut.

01:30:18.000 Every issue, real quick.

01:30:19.000 Oh yeah, you're right.

01:30:19.000 The Beijing-sponsored South China University paper that said that instead of coming out of the seafood market, it was possible that someone had the blood of bat on their skin, and that one of the researchers had been attacked by a bat.

01:30:34.000 So he had quarantined for 28 days after that.

01:30:36.000 Can I address that really quick?

01:30:37.000 Because the term gain of function gets thrown around a lot.

01:30:41.000 And don't get me wrong, Gain of Function is flirting with disaster Molly Hatchett.

01:30:47.000 Gain of Function is lighting up the Bikini Atoll with a hydrogen bomb to see what its blast radius is.

01:30:55.000 That's not what they were doing.

01:30:57.000 They were doing something worse.

01:30:59.000 In their own words, they did gain a function to gauge what they called, quote, spillover potential.

01:31:05.000 These are their own words.

01:31:06.000 That is now the akin of, we're not only gonna drop a hydrogen bomb on the Bikini Atoll,

01:31:11.000 we're now gonna put a human being in the blast radius because we want to see what the radiation does to humans.

01:31:17.000 They were specifically provoking these bat coronaviruses in the labs to spill over to human beings. 0.99

01:31:24.000 They wanted to know, they were poking it, provoking it, prodding it.

01:31:29.000 They specifically wanted to know what would make it spill over to a human being.

01:31:33.000 That is, there's Icarus flying close to the sun, guys, and then there's Icarus flying up to the sun

01:31:38.000 with a freaking hydrogen bomb and throwing it into the sun.

01:31:41.000 That's what they were doing. 0.89

01:31:42.000 We got to go to Super Chats, but I want to bring up one last thing.

01:31:45.000 Did you know that in 2019 it was reported they were doing gain-of-function research on avian flu to specifically make it transmissible among mammals and got the avian flu to infect ferrets?

01:31:57.000 And the question is, now, why would you go ahead and make something like that?

01:32:00.000 The avian flu mortality rate is 60% when it does cross over to humans, which is rare, because it's difficult for the virus to do.

01:32:07.000 But why would you do gain-of-function to make it so it does?

01:32:09.000 All the answers to that question are bad.

01:32:11.000 Well, let's go to Superchip.

01:32:12.000 Yeah, we'll finish that thought, though.

01:32:15.000 We'll definitely talk about more of this in the webisode.

01:32:16.000 Let's go to Super Chats.

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01:32:33.000 FalconerX says, huge fan of both Tim Pool and Steve Dace.

01:32:38.000 Very cool, appreciate the support.

01:32:40.000 All right.

01:32:41.000 Brandon M says, the first act of the board of an organization without O'Keefe, whose name means truth, is to lie to everyone.

01:32:47.000 Yeah, someone brought this up last week or whatever.

01:32:53.000 James O'Keefe is the only person accused of malfeasance by Veritas without evidence.

01:32:58.000 Every single instance where Veritas has accused someone of doing something, they've shown the video of them doing it.

01:33:03.000 Except James. 1.00

01:33:05.000 How stupid is that? 1.00

01:33:07.000 They don't hold themselves to their own standards. 1.00

01:33:09.000 Crazy. 0.97

01:33:10.000 All right.

01:33:11.000 Coric57 says, Tim, what do you think about Twitter personalities caught accepting PAC money from Biden admin?

01:33:17.000 I don't know about that.

01:33:17.000 What's that about?

01:33:19.000 No idea.

01:33:22.000 All right.

01:33:23.000 I don't know why the Biden administration would pay Twitter personalities to shill for them, because I just think a lot of people would do it for nothing out of cultic devotion to the agenda, frankly.

01:33:32.000 Yeah.

01:33:32.000 But they pay all the TikTokers, you know, they've got to get the young vote as well.

01:33:36.000 There you go.

01:33:36.000 They pay them to push a specific message, right?

01:33:38.000 It's like a marketing deal.

01:33:39.000 Right.

01:33:39.000 Yeah.

01:33:40.000 All right.

01:33:40.000 What do we got here?

01:33:42.000 Easy Kill says, here is my monthly donation that normally goes to Project Veritas.

01:33:46.000 Use it well.

01:33:46.000 Well, thank you for this.

01:33:48.000 We need to, I'm trying to get in touch with James O'Keefe.

01:33:52.000 He is not an easy man to get in touch with right now.

01:33:53.000 I imagine he's got NDAs or something, but I'd like to get in touch with him.

01:33:56.000 And so if he hears this, so we can try and figure out what he's going to do, because I'm sure Whenever he has the chance, and I assume he can launch something quickly, we gotta get him in here so he can tell all of you guys where to direct your donations to keep the work going.

01:34:10.000 I don't think anybody's got faith in Veritas without a James O'Keefe.

01:34:13.000 I don't.

01:34:14.000 And I'm gonna say it again.

01:34:15.000 James putting out the music video Oligarchy is one of the reasons I liked Project Veritas.

01:34:20.000 James doing the dancing and the DJ stuff?

01:34:23.000 I don't want to disrespect the journalists who are doing these interviews, but I don't know who these people are.

01:34:26.000 They're not charismatic.

01:34:27.000 do something to build culture, to create something interesting. Project Veritas as these like,

01:34:34.000 look, I don't want to disrespect the journalists who are doing these interviews, but like,

01:34:37.000 I don't know who these people are. They're not charismatic.

01:34:40.000 They mean, it means nothing to me.

01:34:42.000 James is like this charismatic dude that I have, that I trust, shows strength and is interesting

01:34:51.000 with the character that he's developed for Veritas and the energy and the persona of Veritas itself.

01:34:57.000 So, I just want to say that again.

01:34:59.000 I like the dance show. Oh, you got it. Nothing he did, you know, spending money on this music video or whatever else

01:35:05.000 he's accused of like losing money wise.

01:35:07.000 The journalism kept getting bigger and better, right? So if he spent $60,000 on a dance party, I mean, I think we've

01:35:16.000 made it up in the amount of truth that he's uncovered. Yes.

01:35:19.000 Dad's cigarette run says watched the video on your channel and it's heartbreaking.

01:35:23.000 There will be a reckoning.

01:35:24.000 So, we had an anonymous source provide some information to us pertaining to Veritas.

01:35:29.000 So I just, it's a video of James O'Keefe basically explaining what's going on.

01:35:35.000 Just uploaded it raw.

01:35:36.000 And I was like, I don't know, look, we're planning on doing this new show, probably recorded Friday.

01:35:41.000 And I'm wondering if maybe we'll upload the conversational podcast.

01:35:44.000 It's gonna be its own podcast on Apple and Spotify.

01:35:47.000 Maybe, I don't know, Sunday nights?

01:35:49.000 We're going to record it Friday morning, but I don't know if putting up on Friday is the best thing to do.

01:35:53.000 Maybe.

01:35:54.000 I don't know.

01:35:54.000 Maybe we just do it.

01:35:55.000 There's a lot of room on Saturday and Sunday for something.

01:35:57.000 Well, Sundays are good days because people are at home and they're getting ready and, you know, but yeah, and Friday's terrible.

01:36:03.000 Like Friday night is just, but that's when I have the real opportunity to record it.

01:36:07.000 And I don't know, maybe we just do it Friday morning.

01:36:09.000 Yeah, that works.

01:36:10.000 I'm always looking for content on Sundays, honestly.

01:36:12.000 Sunday's a good day for a lease, but for your schedule.

01:36:15.000 I'm thinking we're going to record it 10 to noon on Fridays.

01:36:18.000 Maybe we just upload it right away, right after the show.

01:36:20.000 It goes up at 1 on a Friday or something.

01:36:22.000 It is what it is.

01:36:23.000 But anyway, anyway, I digress.

01:36:25.000 Yeah, so I just put it up on the channel because I didn't know where else to put it.

01:36:29.000 I was like, we want to publish it.

01:36:30.000 We want people to see what James has to say.

01:36:32.000 If anyone's following along, Veritas Twitter account's lost 22,000 followers since we've been talking.

01:36:37.000 So now it's at 155?

01:36:38.000 Yeah, 157.5.

01:36:40.000 I still follow them so far.

01:36:42.000 I mean, I want to see what they're saying.

01:36:43.000 Yeah, I'm seeing it through.

01:36:44.000 Yeah, I think that's the hard thing.

01:36:45.000 There are some people that want to be able to get the updates from Project Veritas.

01:36:49.000 I wanted more companies like Veritas anyway, so maybe this is just the hard way to make that happen.

01:36:53.000 I can't imagine Project Veritas without James O'Keefe.

01:36:57.000 Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

01:36:59.000 I don't know.

01:37:00.000 I have a feeling that James O'Keefe simply comes out and announces he's launching, you know, the truth operation and instantly is making $10 million a year, hires a staff, and the next video we see of a big expose comes from them and not Veritas.

01:37:15.000 You know how there are some companies where one person does 87 jobs and when they leave it's very difficult to replace them?

01:37:21.000 Like not only does James have this public persona, people send him information, he is involved in the administrative day-to-day, he's involved in his own reporting, like it would be so difficult to replace him and it's easy for him to maintain all of the skills that he has and just start something new.

01:37:40.000 Yeah, easily.

01:37:41.000 Shout out to Eric Spracklin.

01:37:42.000 Well, so, you know, I just gotta say, James, you know, come on the show and then figure out the new organization and we'll do a whole show.

01:37:50.000 So as soon as he gets that ready, we'll have him here and we'll figure it out.

01:37:54.000 Yeah, I guess, what did they say, like he was packing up his stuff or something?

01:37:56.000 Is that what they said in their statement?

01:37:58.000 I imagine half the employees are gonna leave and join his new company if he does that, I would imagine.

01:38:03.000 Hopefully a bunch of them would.

01:38:04.000 I don't know.

01:38:04.000 Ryan Ellis says, the purpose of James getting the boot is to destroy Veritas.

01:38:08.000 They don't care if they lose followers, they want it to crash and burn.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:38:12.000 No.

01:38:12.000 I just wanna know why.

01:38:13.000 Like, what is it?

01:38:15.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:38:16.000 Not your own organization.

01:38:16.000 I mean, the Epstein stuff.

01:38:18.000 No, no, no, but like...

01:38:20.000 I mean, the Epstein stuff, but, like, he's been going for a while, right?

01:38:23.000 Like, it's hard for me not to think that there is something that he wanted to do that the board was like, no, we're not willing to look at.

01:38:29.000 I think James got so freaked out because he was putting his life on the line, and he's like, do what I say!

01:38:34.000 Do it!

01:38:34.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:38:36.000 I gotta stop you.

01:38:36.000 The FBI raided the home of James, who's in his underwear or something, and, like, other employees.

01:38:43.000 They have been trying to shut down Veritas.

01:38:46.000 It just seems they figured out how to do it.

01:38:49.000 Maybe they went to a board member and said, you know what?

01:38:52.000 Going after James isn't working.

01:38:54.000 We'll go after you.

01:38:55.000 And then the board members are like, I'm not dealing with this.

01:38:59.000 Get James out of here.

01:39:01.000 I'd rather not deal with it. 0.99

01:39:04.000 Whenever complete and utter stupidity is the most benign and innocent explanation, rest assured, every other potential option is far worse than that. 1.00

01:39:20.000 So this is either just mind-numbing stupidity, that even if he is guilty of everything you're accusing him of, that you would choose now, with the organization at its pinnacle of influence and success, to absolutely kneecap and decapitate it. 1.00

01:39:37.000 That's either the issue, all these people just got this instantaneously stupid, rather than handle this stuff privately, or, Fill in the blank. 0.99

01:39:50.000 Randall Hogan says, Tim, you need to hire James to run Timcast News. 0.95

01:39:54.000 James O'Keefe does not need, I do not think he needs my help on anything, or I would also say, I don't know if I could afford to hire James O'Keefe.

01:40:05.000 I mean, I heard he comes with a lot of legal fees.

01:40:07.000 A lot of legal fees.

01:40:09.000 And his salary is publicly known, you know, because it's a non-profit, they disclose what his salary is.

01:40:14.000 But more importantly, James has the talent, work ethic and wherewithal to simply snap his fingers to create a new organization, and with all the experience he's gained, probably get it up and running within less than half a year, and then instantly, with his friends and allies in the space, have more than enough donors to be right back to where he was.

01:40:34.000 It may be a bump in the road, but nobody needs to hire James.

01:40:37.000 James is probably just going to moonwalk his way into a new organization with a new name, and it'll be bigger and better than ever.

01:40:43.000 I recommend a private for-profit corporation.

01:40:46.000 I don't think anyone who donates to Veritas is concerned about how James is... Let me put it this way.

01:40:54.000 James leaving, effectively ending Veritas, and everyone's like, he is Veritas.

01:41:00.000 I'm willing to bet every person who has given James O'Keefe money, if James said to his donors, guys, my boat is broken and I work too much, the only way I can get it fixed is if I fly on a private charter, here's how much we've brought in, does anyone care if I spend $14,000 on this?

01:41:16.000 I bet 98% or 100% would be like, James, you deserve this man.

01:41:21.000 The risks you've taken, the work you've done, the positive impact you've had on society, take a private jet.

01:41:28.000 If he had a for-profit company, nobody would bat an eye.

01:41:30.000 They'd be like, well, it's his own company.

01:41:32.000 He makes the money, he can do what he wants.

01:41:33.000 But he does the right thing.

01:41:35.000 Starts a non-profit, takes a smaller salary than he would've if he was in a for-profit, and then now he's being accused of, and not to mention, all of his lies.

01:41:43.000 I just don't, I'm not gonna believe it, sorry.

01:41:44.000 They say he was abusing employees, then when that is disproven and the donor, two donors come out and they're like, that never happened, those are lies.

01:41:51.000 Now it's, well, he was spending money he wasn't supposed to spend.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, okay, spare me.

01:41:56.000 Anyway.

01:41:57.000 All right, Matthew Emmons says, if only we knew someone who was starting a non-profit that James could pivot to, if only it could be named Ministry of Truth.

01:42:06.000 That's a good idea.

01:42:07.000 That's very snarky, I like that.

01:42:09.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:42:09.000 Ministry of Truth.

01:42:11.000 I think, I have to imagine right now James is talking to like a corporate attorney about setting up a new non-profit right now.

01:42:19.000 The thing about non-profits is you have to have board members.

01:42:22.000 You have to.

01:42:23.000 It's both the strength and the weakness of it because you can't start it without having three people in charge, which means two of them can throw you out at any moment if you're one of the three.

01:42:23.000 I know, it's annoying.

01:42:31.000 You really got to trust the people you work with, have a vision for the future, and, I don't know, just pray that the thing works.

01:42:37.000 It's weird to think that you can spend three years building something and then your two managing partners can just decide you're out.

01:42:42.000 I don't know if they can do it without just cause.

01:42:44.000 I don't know if that works, but, you know, it's...

01:42:47.000 So a lot of people are mentioning, like, I should hire James or start something with him, and I'm just kind of like, James needs to be the sole owner, CEO, 100% board member, all of that stuff of his own for-profit corporation, and then he can come on this show anytime he wants when he wants to shed it out and build up a membership base to help fund his work.

01:43:05.000 And as I mentioned earlier in the show, he should do, the legal fees are probably the most difficult thing for these guys.

01:43:13.000 But he should do the normal work they're doing and then offer a Project Veritas commentary behind the scenes for paying members.

01:43:21.000 So sign up for 10, 20 bucks a month, support Veritas, for-profit, not tax-deductible, but then you can listen to James talk about the story in a more candid, you know, fashion that he records like once a week or with every story.

01:43:33.000 And I think that's the way to do it.

01:43:34.000 Then he can spend the money on whatever he wants, not that I think he's wasting it.

01:43:38.000 And I think it just protects him.

01:43:41.000 No board, nobody can fire him, nobody can boot him, he never has to worry about this.

01:43:44.000 Like, how did he get fired?

01:43:46.000 He is Veritas!

01:43:47.000 That's just insane to me.

01:43:48.000 It shouldn't be possible.

01:43:50.000 All right, all right.

01:43:52.000 Because Reason says, James gave us an emotional speech.

01:43:56.000 It makes me think while he is getting in his car and driving away, he ain't done yet.

01:43:59.000 No way.

01:43:59.000 He is a fighter.

01:44:01.000 I mean, what if the next video we see of James is him just like sitting on the beach with like a coconut and he's just like, I'm done.

01:44:06.000 I'm retired.

01:44:07.000 I started something.

01:44:08.000 I'm done.

01:44:09.000 What if the first video of his new organization is of one of these board members?

01:44:14.000 That's what I was wondering.

01:44:15.000 Yeah.

01:44:17.000 Hell hath no fury like a muckracker scorned, guys. 1.00

01:44:17.000 Oh man. 1.00

01:44:20.000 I'll tell you that.

01:44:21.000 Imagine being one of these board members right now, having to go into a meeting with Project Veritas, and they're going to be like, is anybody wearing the lapel mics?

01:44:29.000 Anybody with the cameras?

01:44:31.000 I would urge every member of that board, they're way too hot for you. 0.96

01:44:37.000 Beware.

01:44:38.000 Yes.

01:44:39.000 I have to imagine the only way the board can actually meet with Veritas employees right now is to make them all wear, like, unitards.

01:44:46.000 Everybody has to- here's your new uniform when you're in the building.

01:44:48.000 Yes.

01:44:49.000 Someone's gonna get them.

01:44:50.000 It makes me wonder also, like, we've been working with James for years, like, what does he already know about them that before he would have kept to himself that now he doesn't have to, right?

01:44:59.000 Like, unless they got him to sign a non-disparagement agreement, which I really doubt, they are completely vulnerable to him.

01:45:07.000 He's gotta start a non-profit in West Virginia.

01:45:09.000 He's gotta come down here.

01:45:11.000 Come down to West Virginia.

01:45:12.000 Yeah, not New York.

01:45:13.000 New York's bad.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, New York's a terrible idea if you want to be a non-profit.

01:45:16.000 Or at least a conservative non-profit.

01:45:18.000 All right, Rath says, Tim, AP News, roughly 30 minutes ago, so this is about 8 p.m., Ohio metal plant up in flames, several people injured.

01:45:26.000 Don't know if it's relevant, wow.

01:45:28.000 Stranz says, two dozen eggs cost me $12.48 today.

01:45:33.000 40 pounds of chicken feed, $13.50.

01:45:36.000 Blue Sapphire chickens will be shipped tomorrow.

01:45:39.000 Man, $12.50 for... Is this the most expensive eggs have ever been in human history?

01:45:45.000 I don't know about...

01:45:46.000 I think it is. I was looking at a chart over the weekend, but the thing is I'm still seeing some egg prices that are

01:45:52.000 relatively inexpensive.

01:45:53.000 Like, it's hard for me to say, right?

01:45:55.000 I think in the last four decades from the chart I saw...

01:45:59.000 I don't know about human history.

01:46:00.000 Four decades maybe, but like during famine or whatever, you know, if you had a couple eggs, probably very expensive.

01:46:06.000 But I think also more people had chickens, right?

01:46:10.000 During times of famine, people had their own livestock and ways of... Families, I think until what, like the 1900s, every family had a cow.

01:46:17.000 Like at least one cow. 0.93

01:46:18.000 It was like a normal thing.

01:46:20.000 Like you had a cow.

01:46:21.000 But then you can't take it with you to your apartment in your, you know, large city, so that went away.

01:46:25.000 Man.

01:46:26.000 And then we got too many eggs.

01:46:28.000 Too many.

01:46:29.000 Yeah.

01:46:29.000 Because we got a chicken city.

01:46:30.000 I was watching a documentary about the Middle Ages.

01:46:32.000 They all had a pig. 1.00

01:46:33.000 Not everybody. 0.99

01:46:33.000 Pretty much everybody had a pig. 0.99

01:46:34.000 And you'd have to turn them out onto the street at night.

01:46:36.000 And they just root through. 0.96

01:46:37.000 And there was just pigs all over the place. 1.00

01:46:39.000 This is something that didn't get a lot of media attention.

01:46:41.000 I think that people have a deep-seated hatred for pigs because of the way that the wild boars would hide in the bushes and ambush people, gore them, and then eat them alive.

01:46:49.000 Oh, we also say they're, like, dirty.

01:46:51.000 I mean, there's such a hate. 0.94

01:46:51.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:46:52.000 We don't have it for dogs.

01:46:53.000 We don't, we don't call and eat dogs.

01:46:55.000 They're just as smart or essentially they're about. 0.97

01:46:55.000 We do it with pigs. 0.97

01:46:58.000 Yeah.

01:46:58.000 But I think it's because of this deep rooted hatred of the wild boar.

01:47:01.000 So we're like, you know what?

01:47:02.000 You've deserved this for hundreds of thousands of years.

01:47:04.000 You've terrorized my species. 1.00

01:47:06.000 Now we're going to eat you alive. 1.00

01:47:07.000 How do you like it?

01:47:07.000 I think they're just delicious.

01:47:10.000 They certainly have become that way.

01:47:11.000 It could possibly be that bacon happens to taste very good. 0.82

01:47:15.000 I'm from Iowa, so I'm a fan of pig.

01:47:19.000 So yes, I think pigs are very good.

01:47:21.000 I think bacon is universally beloved.

01:47:25.000 I've even had vegans tell me that, you know, the activist vegans saying they miss bacon.

01:47:30.000 Not all of them.

01:47:31.000 You know, I'm not trying to accuse all vegans of liking meat, but the activist vegans have had people be like, yeah, yeah, that's why they buy fake bacon.

01:47:38.000 The idea that vegan meat exists shows that these people are unhappy with their choices.

01:47:43.000 I'm just ragging on vegans now.

01:47:44.000 No, you're all right, vegans.

01:47:45.000 You can eat whatever you want.

01:47:46.000 But I will point out that there's that famous video of when the hurricane was coming and the whole store is cleared out, but the vegan section is completely full.

01:47:53.000 Like nobody wanted to buy any of that stuff.

01:47:55.000 It's too salty, man.

01:47:57.000 The Impossible Burger has more salt than a McDonald's burger.

01:48:00.000 McDonald's burger's got too much salt in it as it is.

01:48:01.000 I think when veganism got trendy, people thought it was code for healthy and it's not.

01:48:06.000 Like, you can eat pasta with olive oil on it all day long and be a vegan and not be healthy at all.

01:48:12.000 Yeah, sugar is vegan.

01:48:15.000 Oreos are vegan.

01:48:15.000 It's the overeating of meat and sugar that is what's the... It's the overeating.

01:48:20.000 It's not the meat itself.

01:48:21.000 Overeating in general of anything is bad.

01:48:24.000 Although there is a lot of sugar in what we're eating now.

01:48:26.000 Have you seen those videos about like back in the day people used to consume like half a pound of sugar?

01:48:30.000 I should find the video and quote it more accurately.

01:48:32.000 There's a funny advertisement when they were marketing sugar and it was like low calorie energy burst.

01:48:37.000 It was a woman eating a spoonful of sugar. 0.96

01:48:39.000 It's wild.

01:48:39.000 I've seen that before.

01:48:40.000 And it was like for a low calorie burst of energy and I'm like that's the Craziest idea.

01:48:44.000 Don't do that.

01:48:45.000 They have those sugar cubes. 0.67

01:48:46.000 They'd be like, how many?

01:48:47.000 One or two?

01:48:47.000 And they'd put these giant cubes of sugar in the tea.

01:48:51.000 I think they still do that.

01:48:54.000 In Iowa, we have a place called Living History Farms where you can go back to the agrarian, more agrarian time in America.

01:49:01.000 And you can actually do like theme dinners.

01:49:04.000 And one of the, I went, my wife and I went with some couples several years ago to What was dinner in Iowa was like for a family in like 1911 because it was 2011 so a hundred, you know And it was a I could not believe by the way the amount of carbs they consumed I could not believe the amount of calories they consumed and absolutely one of the palate cleansers in between meals was a thing of sugar cubes, okay, and

01:49:31.000 And so as someone who over the years has lost like over 100 pounds,

01:49:36.000 like I'm like really cognizant of the amount of food that I get served now, you know?

01:49:41.000 And I remember asking the attendant, how did all these people ate this much food?

01:49:47.000 And yet, man, like size 36 jeans would have been considered chubby to them, right?

01:49:52.000 I had to lose 100 pounds to fit into a size 36 jean.

01:49:55.000 And she said to me, well, they also worked out in the fields for nine hours a day and burned all those calories off. 0.83

01:50:01.000 Their jobs weren't sedentary.

01:50:02.000 There was this study that came out that said that our average body temperature has gone down by a degree because we are less active as a whole, right?

01:50:10.000 More employment is sedentary, so you spend more time sitting.

01:50:13.000 We are seeing the effects of the shifts in our economic lifestyle.

01:50:16.000 I don't necessarily want to work in a field.

01:50:18.000 So that's why you saw Michael Phelps, when he was swimming, was doing 5,000 calories per meal.

01:50:25.000 8,000 calories per day or something.

01:50:27.000 When I was skating at my max, I was probably doing 5,000 to 8,000 calories a day.

01:50:30.000 And a lot of people don't believe me, but I'm like, no, seriously, whole pizzas to myself?

01:50:35.000 Skating for 8 to 10 hours a day, drenched in sweat all day nonstop?

01:50:39.000 Yeah, it was brutal.

01:50:40.000 I dated this girl who ran marathons and we would eat giant, she'd make giant pasta meals and then eat it and then just be super thin like a, and I'm like, I couldn't eat, I couldn't do it.

01:50:49.000 Dude, I would wake up in the morning and we'd go grab like some fast food.

01:50:53.000 I'd get like two burgers, two nuggets.

01:50:55.000 We would go skate like crazy.

01:50:57.000 Then I would get like a Panda Express three entree meal.

01:51:00.000 Then we would go back and at night have like a whole pizza.

01:51:02.000 It's like, I would go to the skate park and skate for eight to 10 hours.

01:51:07.000 Just non-stop, drenched in sweat.

01:51:08.000 The next day, I wouldn't be able to walk.

01:51:11.000 I would just be paralyzed from my muscles just tightening up and I couldn't move.

01:51:15.000 Yeah, I know I have a family friend whose sons are both very elite baseball players.

01:51:19.000 One plays in college, one plays in high school.

01:51:20.000 And she used to tell me, especially when they were going through puberty, and both of these guys are like 6'5", 6'7", they're huge.

01:51:26.000 She used to just get pounds of ground turkey and cook it for them, and they would just eat it all the time because they were constantly hungry. 0.99

01:51:33.000 One of them went to boarding school, so there's a cafeteria, a dining hall, and he didn't have access to food all the time, and he lost 30 pounds because he was just this huge athlete who needed calories.

01:51:46.000 I mean, that's the closest we have to this time period that you're talking about when there's much more physical labor.

01:51:51.000 Also, you walked more places to get around, transportation.

01:51:54.000 People also really underestimate how much calories they're eating.

01:51:59.000 Like when they started adding the calorie counter to menus and stuff at a fast food restaurant, and you're like, you mean a burger and fries is 1,500 calories?

01:52:07.000 What the?

01:52:08.000 Yeah, so imagine if you did it three times a day, you'd have 5,000 calories.

01:52:11.000 Crazy.

01:52:12.000 Do different people produce different amounts of calories from the same food?

01:52:17.000 Like if you eat a piece of broccoli, I eat the exact same piece, would one of our bodies make more heat?

01:52:22.000 Yes.

01:52:23.000 So the calorie number is not in the food, it's a result of our body burning the food.

01:52:27.000 A calorie is a representation of energy required to burn or something like that.

01:52:32.000 Burn the food or burn the meat.

01:52:33.000 But the issue is, To clarify what your question is, if you take the same piece of food and two people, like exact replicas, and two people eat it, their bodies will handle it differently.

01:52:43.000 And there is no way it could be equal in the energy output.

01:52:47.000 So that's why the calorie is not in the food.

01:52:49.000 That's important to keep in mind.

01:52:51.000 Not super important.

01:52:52.000 Someone who is 6 foot 5, 220 pounds muscle is given a cupcake.

01:52:57.000 Someone who is 90 pound female who does an exercise is given the same exact cupcake. 1.00

01:53:03.000 The body is going to use them in very different ways.

01:53:05.000 The output will probably be very different.

01:53:08.000 And actually, a better example might be like a steak, where you've got a lot of protein, the body's got to break down very hard in the liver or something like that.

01:53:17.000 A dude is going to probably rip through that thing way better than someone who's not working out or sedentary.

01:53:24.000 Not only that, but I mean like somebody who's morbidly obese and doesn't exercise, who's given a cupcake, is going to have a blood sugar spike and probably feel really sick.

01:53:32.000 An athlete will probably just not even notice.

01:53:35.000 Probably, maybe feel sick later.

01:53:36.000 I mean, bad food is bad.

01:53:37.000 You know, garbage in, garbage out.

01:53:39.000 Anyway, all right, let's read some more of these superchats. 0.96

01:53:42.000 OMG Puppies says, Jehovah's Witnesses and Adventists believe the earth will be restored to the Garden of Eden and the saved will live there.

01:53:50.000 The 144,000 are a special group who go to heaven.

01:53:54.000 So there you go.

01:53:55.000 They want you to live in the Garden of Eden.

01:53:56.000 You can't go to heaven though.

01:53:57.000 Sorry, it's not for you.

01:54:00.000 I prefer the biblical worldview where Jesus offers all of his followers heaven, not just 144,000.

01:54:05.000 How did they get to that number?

01:54:07.000 I don't understand.

01:54:08.000 It's a symbolic number in the book of Revelation.

01:54:11.000 Ah.

01:54:13.000 All right, what do we got?

01:54:14.000 Ted Mahoney says national divorce would reduce the remaining states to global insignificance and we would be dissected and ruled by other superpowers.

01:54:22.000 Agreed.

01:54:24.000 Yep. 0.96

01:54:26.000 Mark Guidetti says, Real Americans want to fix the union, not run away from it like cowards.

01:54:32.000 But that would require federal intervention into California, which probably would result in, I don't know, civil war.

01:54:37.000 Unless California rolls over.

01:54:39.000 But so long as California is violating the Constitution and subverting the federal government, what more can we do?

01:54:44.000 The social compact is dead.

01:54:49.000 There is no social compact in America anymore, and that really is the underlying foundation of a constitution.

01:54:58.000 What a constitution does is it codifies that social compact.

01:55:05.000 The social compact is the essence of what a constitution enumerates, and that is gone.

01:55:10.000 legal document. The social compact is the essence of what a constitution enumerates,

01:55:17.000 and that is gone. And so California has no problems whatsoever about being a platform

01:55:26.000 to eradicate your way of life.

01:55:28.000 In fact, it is proud of doing so, and it is affirmatively—it's not an accident.

01:55:34.000 It's missional.

01:55:36.000 They're doing it on purpose.

01:55:38.000 The only way you're going to hold the Union together outside of civil war or revival Is you're going to have to have more governors do what DeSantis has done in Florida.

01:55:51.000 Militant forms of federalism and interposition.

01:55:55.000 The doctrine of interposition of the lesser magistrate.

01:55:59.000 That's what the founders wanted state and local governments to do.

01:56:03.000 Is the people you elected on a state and local level, juries were a form of interposition.

01:56:08.000 They called them the fourth branch of government.

01:56:11.000 So, right down to twelve peers on a local jury, you could interpose.

01:56:16.000 If Washington, if the federal government went off the rails, these other layers could stand in and say, no, you don't get to impose that upon my people.

01:56:23.000 We won't enforce that here.

01:56:25.000 We will not impose that on them here.

01:56:27.000 We won't adjudicate that here.

01:56:29.000 We will practice, through the doctrine of the lesser magistrate, forms of interposition.

01:56:34.000 You have to, and they've done that to us.

01:56:37.000 When Donald Trump got elected in 2000, when Donald Trump took office in January of 2017, there were fewer elected Democrats in office in America than there had been since before the Great Depression, before FDR's New Deal created the modern democratic coalition.

01:56:52.000 And yet, did San Francisco say, ah, snap.

01:56:55.000 Republicans have total control of the White House, and Orange Man Bat is president.

01:57:01.000 We're going to stop doing subsidies for trans homeless people in San Francisco now, because the other sides... Did San Francisco change anything they were doing? 0.99

01:57:09.000 No, they just San Francisco'd on.

01:57:11.000 That's an example of interposition.

01:57:13.000 They just kept on San Franciscan, didn't care what the hell Orange Man Bad was saying from the White House.

01:57:13.000 That's a good verb.

01:57:18.000 Can we just write it, San Francisco'd.

01:57:20.000 San Francisco'd on.

01:57:22.000 That's the verb for doing, you know, failed policy.

01:57:25.000 Yes, but we need West Virginia, your state, where a Democrat hasn't won a precinct in your state since the 08 presidential election.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, mansions.

01:57:35.000 Gotta switch parties.

01:57:36.000 But we need West Virginia to be as red as California is blue.

01:57:40.000 It's not.

01:57:41.000 My state of Iowa is redder than yours. 0.68

01:57:43.000 Texas needs to be redder than Florida.

01:57:46.000 Mississippi... Look at Wyoming!

01:57:48.000 But do you know how close West Virginia is to D.C.?

01:57:51.000 Well, I understand.

01:57:53.000 And you've got Frederick, and then you've got the college towns, and you've got... But you're still in a state where Democrats haven't won in a presidential election a precinct since 2000.

01:58:02.000 Not a county, a friggin' precinct! 0.95

01:58:04.000 We need... But Iowa is historically red, right? 0.97

01:58:07.000 No.

01:58:07.000 West Virginia's not?

01:58:08.000 No, until... Bush in 2004 was the only Republican since Reagan in 84 that won our state in a presidential election until Trump.

01:58:18.000 It's traditionally been a very purple state.

01:58:21.000 We need Mississippi, Alabama, those states need to actually earn their reputations. 0.69

01:58:26.000 The red states are not as red as the hard blue states are blue, and that's what's killing us more than anything else.

01:58:31.000 If we had more interposition, More of essentially de-escalating what they try to do to us from Washington.

01:58:39.000 That would give us much more of a chance than what we have right now.

01:58:42.000 All right.

01:58:42.000 Abel says, I have never heard of Steve before tonight's show, but he has a new follower.

01:58:46.000 Also, Hannah Clare and Ian look like they could be related.

01:58:49.000 Just an opinion.

01:58:50.000 Oh, they actually are.

01:58:51.000 Yeah.

01:58:51.000 Long lost cousins.

01:58:53.000 You're just generalizing white people right now.

01:58:53.000 Thanks for uniting us.

01:58:55.000 You guys all look the same.

01:58:55.000 I don't like that.

01:58:56.000 Yeah.

01:58:57.000 Well, you know, am I allowed, under the rules of wokeness, am I allowed?

01:59:01.000 Like, how much of a not, how much not white do you have to be before, you know, I think Serge is because he's African American.

01:59:07.000 Yeah.

01:59:08.000 Yeah, it's a technicality.

01:59:09.000 Your mic's off.

01:59:10.000 Yeah, I let it stay off.

01:59:11.000 People told me I should stop talking.

01:59:12.000 But yeah, it's a technicality.

01:59:15.000 But what do you mean, literally?

01:59:16.000 You're South African. 0.71

01:59:18.000 I mean, literally, I am African-American.

01:59:20.000 Shouldn't you be proud of who you are?

01:59:22.000 I don't understand what's happening.

01:59:23.000 Didn't Elon Musk say something about that, like being an African-American?

01:59:26.000 Someone said it about him, like they're being mean to like...

01:59:29.000 The African-American tech entrepreneur, Elon Musk.

01:59:32.000 There's a famous story where there was a grant for African-American scholarship or something, and a blonde-haired white kid showed up, and they were like, what is this?

01:59:41.000 He's like, I'm from South Africa.

01:59:43.000 But I guess he genuinely didn't know.

01:59:45.000 Yeah.

01:59:46.000 Because he was like, we don't have that phrase where I come from.

01:59:49.000 So it said African-American.

01:59:50.000 I was like, oh, I'm from Africa.

01:59:51.000 And I came here, and then they got mad at me.

01:59:53.000 It never made sense to me, actually.

01:59:55.000 Yeah, like Caucasian? 0.99

01:59:56.000 From the Caucasus region?

01:59:58.000 That's not where I'm from, I'm not from there.

02:00:00.000 The best is when I was in university, I went to school with a guy from Britain, who was from Jamaica, his mother's from like St.

02:00:05.000 Lucia, and everyone called him African-American, like, I'm not American.

02:00:08.000 What are you saying?

02:00:09.000 I knew a guy who was not an American citizen, and this was a long time ago at a different job I had, and we were talking about Caucasian, African-American, Pacific Islander, what do these things mean?

02:00:20.000 And then this guy got really mad, he's like, I am not African-American!

02:00:23.000 I am from Haiti!" 0.80

02:00:25.000 And he was like, he wasn't even an American citizen.

02:00:27.000 You know, he had like a work visa, and he was Haitian, and he was like, call me Haitian, man.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, seriously.

02:00:32.000 Just calling him African.

02:00:34.000 Anyway, all right, let's see what we got here.

02:00:37.000 Thomas Sidebottom says, I hate the argument I usually get from lefties that religion, Christianity, is a cult.

02:00:42.000 Cults remove you from your family and support structure. 0.99

02:00:45.000 Christianity helps you develop a better bond with them.

02:00:48.000 Right.

02:00:49.000 That's a really good distinction.

02:00:50.000 A key component of cults is to isolate you from family and friends, to keep you away from anyone who might oppose what they think.

02:00:58.000 Whereas, not even just Christianity, but a lot of these are very internally family-oriented.

02:01:03.000 Like Judaism, for instance, with Shabbat. 0.83

02:01:06.000 It's like, be with your family.

02:01:08.000 Talk to those you love and care about.

02:01:10.000 Well, the cult of the Spirit of the Age is doing that now.

02:01:13.000 It's just doing it in terms of, you are separated from your family into the new woke religion.

02:01:21.000 And you should separate yourself from anybody that might have different viewpoints rather than Debate them, discuss with them, or even try to defeat them in the arena of ideas.

02:01:29.000 They're automatically a lesser form of human. 0.97

02:01:32.000 Racist, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, bigot. 0.94

02:01:34.000 So they're the other and should not be considered for polite viewing or for debate whatsoever. 0.96

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02:02:07.000 You've got great hardwood floors downstairs, man.

02:02:10.000 I'm really impressed, yeah.

02:02:10.000 Really?

02:02:12.000 Some of the nicest hardwood floors I've ever seen.

02:02:14.000 Really?

02:02:14.000 Yeah.

02:02:15.000 I didn't think they were that good.

02:02:16.000 I mean, we haven't got really nice.

02:02:17.000 Yeah, I was really impressed.

02:02:18.000 Wait till you see the new studio.

02:02:20.000 We filmed the music video there at the new space, and it's like, it's getting there, it's getting there.

02:02:25.000 The studio room is mostly done.

02:02:28.000 We could probably start setting up studio equipment there now.

02:02:31.000 Yeah, probably.

02:02:32.000 Because the room itself is, I think, is done.

02:02:34.000 And the green room is getting work done.

02:02:35.000 We just need to get it done ASAP.

02:02:35.000 I'm really excited.

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02:03:10.000 That would be cool.

02:03:11.000 But they have to be knit, not just printed.

02:03:12.000 Thank you.

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02:03:18.000 Happy to be here, Steve.

02:03:18.000 Good to see you.

02:03:19.000 Just to shout it out again, man, Nefarious, your movie's coming out.

02:03:19.000 You bet.

02:03:22.000 April 14th, whoisnefarious.com.

02:03:25.000 And Rise of the Fourth Reich, your book.

02:03:25.000 All right.

02:03:27.000 We'll be talking about that later tonight.

02:03:29.000 All right, man.

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