Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Russia ENDS Last Nuclear Treaty, Trump Warns WW3 NEVER Closer Than NOW w-Bill Ottman

00:00:00.000 So Vladimir Putin's all like, yo, you know that last nuclear treaty that y'all got?

00:00:24.000 Gone.

00:00:25.000 Over.

00:00:26.000 And I don't know if it really matters, to be honest.

00:00:29.000 It was about non-proliferation, it was the New START treaty, and it was about inspections between countries, but at this point it's laughable that the treaty would even be considered in existence.

00:00:38.000 So we can say Vladimir Putin, he's saying no more to this treaty, but come on.

00:00:42.000 The moment the U.S.

00:00:43.000 basically went to war with Russia, and we did, saying we but we're the United States, that treaty didn't exist.

00:00:49.000 Russia's not going to let U.S. 0.97

00:00:51.000 or NATO or U.N.

00:00:51.000 inspectors into its country when we're actively supplying military intelligence, weapons, and personnel on the ground in Ukraine in their country's border dispute.

00:01:00.000 So, that being said, there's a journalist out of Russia who says the U.S.

00:01:04.000 has already declared war on Russia.

00:01:07.000 I don't know how many pundits in Russia have said they are going to use nuclear weapons.

00:01:12.000 So, I don't know, one more grain of sand in the heat.

00:01:14.000 And you know, it is tough every day to come in and you read the news and it's something I don't know it's increasingly inane to me to see stories of like some woke college leftist and I'm like it's been 10 years of seeing these people scream on the internet.

00:01:29.000 I know I know I know for a lot of people it's funny but at the same time I'm kind of like man I'm feeling my priorities shift towards Are we going to be self-sustainable because it doesn't seem like this train is stopping?

00:01:40.000 Joe Biden does a surprise secret trip to Ukraine to give him half a billion dollars, ignores the people of East Palestine.

00:01:47.000 Vladimir Putin then comes out, gives his state of the nation address or whatever in Russia and says, this treaty is done.

00:01:54.000 Pundits in Russia are calling for and have been for months now the use of nuclear weapons and either just shut up and stop, okay, Putin and Biden.

00:02:03.000 Or get on with it!

00:02:04.000 It's the waiting I can't stand, right?

00:02:06.000 Are we going to war?

00:02:06.000 Come on.

00:02:07.000 I want to see how many episodes of IRL we're going to do talking about how they're wagging their sabers at each other, both figuratively and literally.

00:02:14.000 Anyway, we'll talk about that, plus we've got a bunch of other stories.

00:02:17.000 National divorce is currently trending.

00:02:19.000 Because Marjorie Taylor Greene that they called for, now everyone's opining on whether or not they actually want one.

00:02:24.000 What's interesting about this story is that as much as we talk about the fear or the prospects of civil war, all of a sudden now there's a big cultural debate on civil war.

00:02:34.000 I mean, okay, there have been a few people who have called for it in the past.

00:02:37.000 No one really opined much on it.

00:02:39.000 Now all of a sudden with Marjorie Taylor Greene, I suppose a federal level politician, calling for one, now we're seeing pundits be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, this is getting a little serious.

00:02:48.000 Well, let's talk about it.

00:02:49.000 Plus other stuff.

00:02:50.000 You know, we got Alec Baldwin, his charges degraded.

00:02:53.000 Unsurprising.

00:02:55.000 Yeah, he's gonna get a slap on the wrist.

00:02:56.000 But we'll get into all that.

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00:03:03.000 I got news.

00:03:03.000 I'm just going to announce it right now, and hopefully it works out, but we have a new show that is going to be on Fridays, probably going up at 1pm.

00:03:12.000 We're calling it, I guess, The Culture War with Tim Pool, and it's going to be on youtube.com slash timcast.

00:03:19.000 The idea for this is, I mentioned it the other day, so we'll have it up on the website as well, we'll probably have a members-only uncensored segment much the same as TeamCast IRL or something to that effect, and the general idea is there are a lot of guests that we could have on this show.

00:03:34.000 There are a lot of high-profile people begging us to come on, but the issue is always, hey guys, we're a topical news and cultural commentary show that takes the top news of the day and then has a conversation around them.

00:03:46.000 So if you're a scientist, a doctor, a zoologist, or some internet influencer or personality, it doesn't necessarily work.

00:03:54.000 I mean, we've had some guests, many of you may even notice, are like, hey, they're not really adding a lot to the conversation.

00:03:59.000 And those people will say things like, Tim, let the guest speak.

00:04:01.000 And I'm like, this is the challenge with a guest that is a specialist.

00:04:05.000 So we try to have them on Fridays, but even that's still a little difficult, so we decided, you know what, let's just do a new show on YouTube.com slash TimCast, which will be a two hour straight cultural conversation, not news topics segmented by, you know, 10 to 15 minutes, literally just more like Club Random or Joe Rogan or whatever.

00:04:24.000 We're going to sit down, we're going to hang out, we're going to have coffee, filmed Friday morning, uploaded Friday afternoon, and this Friday we have Ali London.

00:04:30.000 So if you're not familiar with Ali London, he is an influencer who decided he was trans Korean and then transgender Korean and now is detransitioned.

00:04:43.000 So this is going to be a really interesting conversation.

00:04:44.000 I'm actually really excited.

00:04:45.000 We had Ali hit us up saying that he wanted to come on Timcast IRL, or just come and talk.

00:04:51.000 And I just said, you know, like the issue is, if we're talking about World War III or something, it doesn't make sense to have like a cultural influencer on the show.

00:04:57.000 But a new show does make sense.

00:04:58.000 So it'll be once a week.

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00:05:17.000 But I appreciate all of the support of all of you who help make all this possible.

00:05:21.000 And, you know, hopefully this new show works out and takes off.

00:05:24.000 I think we'll be able to hit on a lot of new subject matter we normally don't get to, because typically what I do is either direct article commentary on news or we bring in a guest and then talk about top news.

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00:05:49.000 I'm really excited.

00:05:50.000 And then we have some big musicians and some celebrities who are asking us to come on as well.

00:05:54.000 So I think the show might kick off with some really big guests.

00:05:57.000 Should be really interesting.

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00:06:02.000 Joining us today to talk about this and a whole lot more is Bill Ottman.

00:06:05.000 Hey, welcome back.

00:06:07.000 Good to see you, Tim Cast.

00:06:08.000 My name's Bill.

00:06:09.000 I'm the founder and CEO at Minds, Minds.com, M-I-N-D-S dot com, not. 0.99

00:06:15.000 I need to get Mines.com so that people don't think that we're a coal mine operation.

00:06:21.000 Tim has brought that up many times before.

00:06:22.000 But yeah, we're a free speech social network focused on actual First Amendment content policy.

00:06:29.000 I think Twitter is slowly getting there, but they are not there, and they're still doing these interstitial content policies all over the world.

00:06:38.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlaw.

00:06:39.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:06:40.000 like the EU. So we got to be careful of that and hold you on to account. We love

00:06:44.000 you, Elon, but you got to open source all the code and go full free speech.

00:06:48.000 Cool. I'm Hannah Gler Brimlow. I'm a writer for Timcast dot com. You should

00:06:52.000 follow at Timcast News on Twitter and Instagram.

00:06:55.000 Hi, Ian Crossland.

00:06:56.000 I actually co-founded Minds with Bill in like 2011 or something like that.

00:06:59.000 That's right.

00:06:59.000 It was like when it was still in pre-alpha early determination rounds and we were kind of figuring out what the hell was going to happen.

00:07:04.000 You know, when we talk about the First Amendment on the internet, I think a lot of it is actually translating to ability to view and utilize code.

00:07:11.000 That's your First Amendment right on the internet, because like a network controller, I think, should always have the right to ban whoever they want if they are running a network.

00:07:19.000 But that doesn't mean that they should be the only one that has access to that kind of network.

00:07:22.000 So that's an idea.

00:07:24.000 Let's go deeper on it on the show.

00:07:25.000 I want to introduce Serge Duprea.

00:07:28.000 Hey, what's up?

00:07:29.000 Serge.com.

00:07:30.000 I'm excited for this, because you're the founder of the website Ian always talks about.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, and it'll be good.

00:07:36.000 And the Supreme Court heard arguments on Section 230 today, so it'll probably come up.

00:07:40.000 All right, let's jump into the news, man.

00:07:42.000 We got this story from the Hill.

00:07:43.000 Russia suspends only remaining nuclear treaty with US.

00:07:47.000 Russian President Vladimir Putin declared Tuesday that Moscow was suspending its participation in the new START treaty, the last remaining nuclear arms control pact with the United States, sharply upping the ante amid tensions with Washington over the fighting in Ukraine.

00:08:00.000 Okay, I just... Guys, it's so difficult.

00:08:03.000 I can't...

00:08:04.000 Look, if you're gonna nuke, just do it, okay?

00:08:07.000 It's the waiting I can't stand. 0.93

00:08:08.000 We've been sitting here for a year with these guys going like, ooh, I'll nuke you.

00:08:13.000 I'm gonna, I'm, you don't do, don't you do it.

00:08:15.000 And then we keep doing these shows where they're like, oh boy, oh man, they're threatening us, and then nothing happens.

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:20.000 So I'm kidding, by the way.

00:08:21.000 I'm okay with the waiting.

00:08:22.000 I'm okay, yeah.

00:08:24.000 It's not that I want anyone to be bombed, but I'm running out of ways to say amid rising tensions.

00:08:30.000 I can't say it the same way a hundred times.

00:08:32.000 And to that extent, I assume the American public is also exhausted.

00:08:37.000 It's been over a year at this point.

00:08:38.000 We've hit the year mark.

00:08:41.000 When are we going to see the other boot drop?

00:08:44.000 How long do we just stay in perpetual tension?

00:08:47.000 They tricked us.

00:08:48.000 They've got us being here being like, come on already!

00:08:51.000 What are you doing?

00:08:52.000 Yeah, you're pro-war now, dude.

00:08:54.000 Yeah, right?

00:08:55.000 No, but the scary thing is that we're desensitized to it.

00:08:59.000 This news comes out and people just shrug at it like, oh, because...

00:09:04.000 What were we talking about the other day?

00:09:06.000 Nobody sits there watching the grass grow and then eventually just goes, whoa, whoa, the grass got too long.

00:09:12.000 No, you ignore it.

00:09:13.000 And then one day you walk outside and you go, oh, the grass is getting long, better mow it.

00:09:16.000 And that's what's happening with this.

00:09:18.000 It's incrementally getting worse, but not enough to where anybody actively is freaking out or people are shutting down government, like with protests or anything like that.

00:09:26.000 They're ignoring it.

00:09:28.000 And as long as they keep slow rolling it the way they do, it will just escalate to that point.

00:09:33.000 It's not gonna be one day the air raid sirens go off and a nuke drops on Kiev and we're like, wow, I can't believe it's happened.

00:09:39.000 By the time an actual ICBM hits a city, we're gonna be like, oh, another one?

00:09:43.000 It's going to be incremental to the point where people are just like, well, that's war.

00:09:46.000 I mean, look at what's going on in Ukraine right now that's been going on for a year with, you know, the air raids, the missile strikes, the misfires hitting Poland.

00:09:56.000 There's been so much war.

00:09:59.000 The crazy thing to me is, 50 years from now, they will write about the Ukraine-Russia conflict, probably the NATO-Russia conflict, because it's going to escalate.

00:10:07.000 We're in it right now, and it seems like nonexistent, far away.

00:10:13.000 It's been so gradual that we are not shocked that there is a land war in Eastern Europe at this point.

00:10:19.000 We're bored with it.

00:10:21.000 That's the scary thing.

00:10:22.000 Well, and we're not even talking about the Middle East at all.

00:10:25.000 So, which is not like there's nothing going on there.

00:10:29.000 There's tons of stuff going on, but I think we just got this slow boil to the point where everyone is completely used to the bathwater, right?

00:10:36.000 I mean, I remember writing about, you know, the months leading up before Russia invaded, there's troops on the border, there's troops on the border, there's troops on the border, Russia says it's not a big deal, Russia says it's just a military exercise, and then, like, They talked to Biden and it just went on and eventually, you know, it felt like a big moment in time, but then we continued on.

00:10:55.000 We know there's conflict.

00:10:56.000 We know there's mounting geopolitical tension everywhere, but to what end, right?

00:11:03.000 If you are an American going about your day-to-day life, like there isn't a major change.

00:11:09.000 It's not like Russia has now also invaded Poland, they're staying where they are and so therefore it 0.99

00:11:15.000 doesn't feel like an escalation.

00:11:18.000 When you learn about war retrospectively, you're able to say, you know, even though

00:11:22.000 things happen over three or four or five years, you learn about them in quick succession so

00:11:27.000 it feels faster.

00:11:28.000 I have a friend out in LA who, I'm not going to name his name because what he said to me 0.92

00:11:32.000 I think is absolutely ridiculous.

00:11:34.000 We'll call him Bill for the sake of the argument. 0.99

00:11:36.000 He has two kids.

00:11:37.000 They're like 10 and 7.

00:11:39.000 And like, dude, do you want to send your kids over there?

00:11:42.000 Because if you really think Ukraine is Ukraine, get out Putin.

00:11:45.000 You're willing to send them over there? 0.97

00:11:47.000 Want to see his legs get blown off by a mortar? 0.88

00:11:50.000 What do you say? 0.96

00:11:51.000 I didn't ask.

00:11:52.000 I'm asking you right now, dude.

00:11:53.000 Are you willing to put your kids over there?

00:11:55.000 Because that's the direction.

00:11:56.000 Look, come on, man.

00:11:57.000 You know, this is the thing that's so tiring.

00:12:00.000 These liberal types who wave the flags, of course they would never send their own kids. 0.99

00:12:05.000 I don't think you have a choice.

00:12:06.000 If you set this ball in motion, gravity takes over.

00:12:09.000 You can't stop it.

00:12:11.000 Listen, these are people who gorge themselves on ho-hos and ding-dongs and then demand that you pay for their health care. 0.98

00:12:16.000 And the worst part is, that's not even this guy.

00:12:18.000 This guy's, like, legit.

00:12:20.000 But he's in it.

00:12:21.000 He's in that liberal state of L.A., like, willing to throw his children away because of Joe Biden.

00:12:27.000 Like, Joe Biden told him so.

00:12:29.000 I don't get it, man.

00:12:30.000 You think that East Palestine, Ohio is bad?

00:12:32.000 Imagine if that was intentionally done to the city nine times a day to nine different cities by a foreign government that you have no control to stop. 0.96

00:12:41.000 That's the precipice.

00:12:43.000 And imagine you have one time, one time in East Palestine happens to only 5,000 people, and the president says, I will not go there, and then secretly travels to a foreign country halfway around the world to give half a billion dollars to.

00:12:59.000 We could not get action on Flint.

00:13:01.000 We could not get action on Newark and Pittsburgh.

00:13:04.000 And it was the left being like, yo, fix these things.

00:13:08.000 Joe Biden snaps his fingers to hop on a plane and fly to Ukraine for half a billion dollars for a country most people can't even find on the map.

00:13:16.000 I like Ukraine, man.

00:13:18.000 I don't like what Russia's doing. 0.97

00:13:20.000 I get it, there's conflict.

00:13:21.000 We talk all day and night about Burisma, the energy sector, Nord Stream, all that stuff.

00:13:25.000 But it's just really gut-punching demoralization when the president outright says, I will not visit East Palestine.

00:13:36.000 These people, you just got to understand about this train crash.

00:13:40.000 Benny Johnson, you guys see this video?

00:13:41.000 He went out and gave 20 grand.

00:13:42.000 He found the 20 houses surrounding, the closest 20 houses surrounding the disaster.

00:13:47.000 He gave each of them a thousand bucks.

00:13:48.000 That's really great.

00:13:50.000 I'll do the Hassan-ism of, does it really have to be some commentator to go and give money to these poor people? 0.51

00:13:58.000 Why can't Joe Biden, why can't the government do anything to help these people?

00:14:04.000 I pay taxes.

00:14:06.000 I have no problem with the government being like, yeah, a portion of those taxes are going to go to make sure that this disaster is cleaned up, because it's kind of like, hey, we're paying for something, right?

00:14:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:14:16.000 Not only will he not go there, He'll go and give your money away to a foreign country for a war that we don't know anything about or why it's happening.

00:14:23.000 And they try and convince us.

00:14:24.000 We've got to stand with Ukraine.

00:14:25.000 For what reason are we at war in Ukraine?

00:14:28.000 For what reason?

00:14:29.000 I mean, I know.

00:14:30.000 It's energy conflict.

00:14:31.000 It's Nord Stream.

00:14:31.000 It's Gazprom.

00:14:32.000 It's the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:14:33.000 It's NATO expansion.

00:14:35.000 It's US global empire.

00:14:37.000 It's NATO expansion.

00:14:38.000 It's Western expansion.

00:14:39.000 For what reason do we not provide even a tiny bit of relief to the people of East Palestine?

00:14:45.000 So, Benny Johnson, shout out, $20,000.

00:14:47.000 And I know Benny would do more if he could.

00:14:51.000 He probably was like, what can we afford sparing this budget?

00:14:54.000 And so he breaks down where the money comes from.

00:14:57.000 And so that's it.

00:14:58.000 It's up to a culture and political commentator to try and give money to some of these people.

00:15:03.000 Can we take that $500 million to Ukraine?

00:15:06.000 And even 1% of it to the people who are surrounding this disaster.

00:15:10.000 Because here's what you gotta understand about that.

00:15:12.000 They've lost everything.

00:15:14.000 Those houses are worth zero dollars now.

00:15:16.000 No one is going to buy a house contaminated with vinyl chloride and, you know, whatever glycol garbage is all over the place.

00:15:24.000 I think it's more than just culture, commentators.

00:15:28.000 Michael Reagan, the head of the EPA, was supposed to go to a climate change tour in Africa with Idris Elba.

00:15:35.000 And then on the 17th, Trump announced that he was going to go to East Palestine.

00:15:38.000 On the 18th, the EPA announced that tour was cancelled.

00:15:41.000 On the 19th, Reagan is like, oh, I'll be in Palestine, East Palestine this coming week, and then he announces, oh, we're going to hold Norfolk Southern accountable for what they've done.

00:15:50.000 We're going to make them pay for it, which I'm not saying that company shouldn't, but this is the same federal government that said that the people of East Palestine didn't qualify for FEMA relief, right?

00:16:01.000 They weren't enough of a disaster to get assistance, but then when we have An unrelenting, especially conservative-leaning media that's like, no, we want to talk about it, we want you to go there, we want you to drink the water, then eventually the EPA is like, yeah, we've got to hold that private company accountable.

00:16:15.000 I'm not saying that's the wrong step, I'm just saying, why were you thinking about going to Africa to talk about climate change when we have our own disaster in our backyard?

00:16:23.000 This is like, I don't think that waiting for someone to do it is gonna, they're gonna do it.

00:16:28.000 But there's a technology where you can clean up oil spills with magnets.

00:16:31.000 This is developed about a decade ago.

00:16:33.000 CNN reports on it.

00:16:34.000 You type up, clean up oil spill with magnet and it'll come up.

00:16:37.000 You put iron into the water and then the oil coagulates around the iron.

00:16:42.000 But that's not what's in the water.

00:16:44.000 There is oil.

00:16:45.000 There's lots of stuff in it, exactly.

00:16:46.000 But it's a start.

00:16:48.000 I mean, it's a suggestion that maybe we can do something to clean this up.

00:16:52.000 I mean, Ian, it's not that far from your hometown, so... No, it's like 70 miles from my hometown.

00:16:57.000 I think that's pretty close.

00:16:59.000 So maybe you need to go.

00:17:01.000 At some point, I'm sure you will.

00:17:02.000 Maybe if you go home and visit.

00:17:04.000 I think you're due a visit, dude.

00:17:05.000 I thought about going there just to smell it. 0.85

00:17:07.000 To know, is this going to kill people?

00:17:10.000 Because unless you go, then I was like, I don't want to be there.

00:17:12.000 I don't want to hurt my lungs.

00:17:13.000 And I'm like, what?

00:17:14.000 Is that what Biden said?

00:17:15.000 Did he actually say, I'm not going there?

00:17:17.000 Or did he just not say anything?

00:17:18.000 It was Kareem Jean-Pierre, I'm pretty sure, was asked, and he said he has no plans to.

00:17:21.000 Is that because he's too sickly to handle the air?

00:17:23.000 No, they just had no plans to visit.

00:17:25.000 I don't know if it was Corine Jean-Pierre, but the administration answered that they had no plans.

00:17:28.000 And then everyone got really mad because Trump then announced, I will be going to visit.

00:17:32.000 It's remarkable, man.

00:17:34.000 Trump, for all of the awful things people have complained about, actually cares about this country.

00:17:39.000 And Joe Biden is representing some kind of occupying force that cares more about Western power expansion than the people who are doing the hard work to make this place exist.

00:17:51.000 Donald Trump struck the perfect balance in my opinion.

00:17:54.000 He cared about foreign policy.

00:17:56.000 He was negotiating peace deals.

00:17:57.000 He wanted NATO to pay their fair share.

00:17:59.000 He wasn't ignoring foreign policy.

00:18:02.000 But he also made sure that the support structure, the infrastructure of this country, its people, were being taken care of.

00:18:09.000 Perfect?

00:18:10.000 Of course not.

00:18:11.000 Joe Biden and the Democrats completely reject and ignore the support structure of this country and what it represents, the people.

00:18:19.000 And then he decides to do a surprise trip to smile.

00:18:21.000 I mean, I'm just... It is a degree of triggered that I am to see Biden hugging Zelensky and smiling.

00:18:30.000 And then watching Benny Johnson's video where he's like, here's the best I can do, a thousand dollars.

00:18:35.000 And I'm like, half a billion dollars to Ukraine?

00:18:39.000 For what reason?

00:18:42.000 And then the worst thing is we've had rail workers threatening to strike, complaining about the safety issues, warning something like this was going to happen.

00:18:50.000 We see more derailments all the time, but this was a massive disaster.

00:18:53.000 The media then lies about it and says everything's fine.

00:18:57.000 If you think anything's wrong with the air water, you're a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

00:19:01.000 You know, you gotta listen to these railway workers, man, and you gotta look at these railroad, uh, the rail tracks, because they get warped and bent.

00:19:07.000 There's a video of it.

00:19:08.000 I mean, they are beyond fathomably bent and warped, and the train's, like, bouncing.

00:19:13.000 Oh, you saw that.

00:19:14.000 Yeah!

00:19:14.000 Crazy video.

00:19:14.000 It's not just like they get a little messed up and oops, it accidentally gets blown off.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, we gotta pull this up.

00:19:19.000 When you see how bad these rails can get, and you realize that if we don't, when they say we need to reinvest in our infrastructure, this is what they're talking about.

00:19:27.000 We need to pull these up and relay really new age, strong material.

00:19:32.000 Look at this!

00:19:36.000 Is there sound on this thing?

00:19:37.000 Yeah, there's sound.

00:19:44.000 So, for those that are just listening, we're showing you completely mangled and bent tracks.

00:19:50.000 Is this even the U.S., though?

00:19:52.000 N, D, and W Railway, Mommy, and Western?

00:19:55.000 Seems like U.S., yeah.

00:19:57.000 ND... People were, so I, I, I, I, this video was going viral, people were sharing it.

00:20:01.000 Uh, this is from March 31st, 2017, but they were, look at this, this is crazy.

00:20:05.000 It's in Michigan, it says.

00:20:07.000 Michigan?

00:20:07.000 Napoleon Defiance and Western Railroad is the ND&W.

00:20:11.000 Look at this!

00:20:11.000 So the train has to slow down, like, drastically, even, to get over.

00:20:15.000 Wow, look, it's on, it's at an angle.

00:20:17.000 But hey, 100 billion dollars in Ukraine.

00:20:21.000 Well, they really need it.

00:20:22.000 Well, what's the structure of those deals with Ukraine?

00:20:26.000 Like, what are we owed after the fact?

00:20:31.000 It's not just a straight donation.

00:20:33.000 Oh, like a lend-lease?

00:20:35.000 Oh, right, right.

00:20:37.000 Black rockets to come in and divvy up the land. 0.89

00:20:40.000 That's what they did, the Americans, in World War II, is they lent the British so much money that they had them by the balls after the war.

00:20:45.000 And that's why America was so powerful after the war.

00:20:48.000 So are we sure this is in the U.S.?

00:20:50.000 Where does it say Michigan?

00:20:51.000 Well, I see in the chat someone saying Mommy is in Ohio, so... This is the Michigan Southern Railroad?

00:20:55.000 And this is a Storyful video.

00:20:58.000 Storyful is owned by Fox News.

00:21:01.000 So, uh, operates between Woodburn, Indiana and Napoleon, Ohio.

00:21:05.000 Compromises 58 miles of track.

00:21:07.000 Yeah.

00:21:08.000 So it's not too far to expect that that's probably part of the issue.

00:21:10.000 Those are the conditions, yeah.

00:21:11.000 And they took, they said it was mechanical failure and that the axle that was keeping them together

00:21:16.000 caught fire and they're taking it back to the National, the NBT Safety Board,

00:21:21.000 their lab to study and to see, say what's gonna happen.

00:21:24.000 And I just personally feel like we should have an independent investigator.

00:21:27.000 Like, I don't trust the way the federal government's handling this.

00:21:30.000 And I know that's such an easy talking point to say, but you know, if their response is,

00:21:34.000 this is not really disaster, you guys don't, you know, qualify for support

00:21:39.000 from the federal government, you know, the air is fine, everything's good.

00:21:43.000 How do we know that when they examine the axle that apparently caught fire, they're going to,

00:21:47.000 you know, they'll see it and be like, it really was just a fluke.

00:21:50.000 It was actually an orifice.

00:21:51.000 So like, it feels like a waste of time to let them test it themselves.

00:21:55.000 That make sense?

00:21:56.000 I feel very blackpailed.

00:21:57.000 I'm out.

00:21:59.000 Maybe black belt isn't the right word.

00:22:01.000 Because I think the difficult thing with talking about stories like this and seeing these two stories and contrasting each other.

00:22:09.000 100 billion dollars to Ukraine.

00:22:12.000 Surprise visit by Biden.

00:22:14.000 500 million dollars and Americans suffering with no assistance.

00:22:19.000 I think what they offered like five bucks.

00:22:21.000 These contracts were given saying shut your mouth and you get what you get.

00:22:24.000 Seeing these things and I'm just like is it Is it blackpilled, or is it just realism?

00:22:31.000 When we say things like, we can't assume this will get worse, because that would be being blackpilled.

00:22:38.000 And I'm like, now is that just being naive?

00:22:41.000 You know, a lot of people say, don't be blackpilled.

00:22:42.000 And I can understand like, if the context is, don't be demoralized.

00:22:47.000 Don't be, you know, Like, I don't know, don't be demoralized, you know, you gotta pick it up, you gotta keep working.

00:22:56.000 But what I see with stories like this, as I was saying in the intro to the show, is my priorities start, I feel a shift in my priorities.

00:23:03.000 You know, is my priority now to go and warn people something's coming or is my priority now to recognize that event right now at the beginning of 2023 is That's a lightning strike.

00:23:17.000 That's a... What's the right word?

00:23:20.000 Catalyst?

00:23:21.000 No, no, no.

00:23:22.000 It's like... Yeah, it's a shot heard around the world kind of thing.

00:23:25.000 It is that lightning strike.

00:23:28.000 That massive explosion sound where you realize something is deeply wrong and it's not being fixed.

00:23:34.000 Now, We can sit here and be like, now, now, everybody, we're going to get it next time, don't you worry.

00:23:39.000 And I'm kind of like, well, I don't know, maybe, maybe these past midterms was some attempt at riding the ship.

00:23:45.000 But when you have a government completely abandon a city on in the East Coast, with now we're looking at potentially 5 million people affected downstream from this, not to mention the tens of millions downwind from it, we're downwind from it.

00:24:00.000 And it's completely ignored.

00:24:02.000 You're told to shut up. 1.00

00:24:03.000 The media tells you to shut up. 0.99

00:24:05.000 Half the voter base of the country doesn't care.

00:24:09.000 I'm kind of like, I don't know if it's blackpilled.

00:24:11.000 You OD'd on culture war pills.

00:24:14.000 But it's not even about any of that.

00:24:17.000 It's take a logical assessment of what just happened and then figure out what your logical move should be.

00:24:25.000 And it's probably at this point like, wow, No amount of voting for a politician will change what just happened.

00:24:31.000 Now, I'm not saying don't vote.

00:24:34.000 Quite honestly, 2024 is going to be very, very important.

00:24:39.000 It just means that it's probably going to be very bad.

00:24:44.000 And that's something we will need to accept and prepare for.

00:24:48.000 Then, you know, vote for Trump, I guess.

00:24:51.000 I don't know.

00:24:52.000 I think this is all right.

00:24:53.000 I'll take either one at this point.

00:24:55.000 But I'm seeing this happen makes me swing back towards Trump on this, to be completely honest.

00:25:01.000 Yeah, I mean, the county that this is in, Trump won twice in a row, and he won it by more during 2020.

00:25:08.000 I think that this sets the narrative for 2024 pretty clearly, right?

00:25:12.000 I mean, Biden, if you look back at the withdrawal from Afghanistan, right, people already felt like he didn't care about how he was taking troops out. He just wanted to be the

00:25:19.000 president took us out of Afghanistan and it cost us. And now we're seeing again, how can he or any

00:25:24.000 Democrat go on to say that we're the party of the environment when they would rather send money to

00:25:29.000 Ukraine than to help a potential disaster in their own country. I feel like I can't comment on Trump

00:25:36.000 versus Santa is very clearly yet, but I know it becomes clear that the Democrats are not

00:25:40.000 saying they're not putting their money where their mouths are. We've got a new statement from

00:25:44.000 former President Donald Trump. ALX tweets.

00:25:47.000 Trump. World War III has never been closer than it is right now.

00:25:52.000 Quote, take a look at the globalist warmonger donors backing our opponents.

00:25:56.000 That's because they're candidates of war.

00:25:59.000 I am the president who delivers peace and it's peace through strength.

00:26:02.000 I think he's taking a swipe right there, DeSantis.

00:26:04.000 But I gotta be honest, that's probably the most tactful swipe he could have taken.

00:26:08.000 Ron DeSanctimonious, and they're trying to claim he called him Meatball Ron, which is way better.

00:26:14.000 I gotta be honest, Meatball Ron is better than Ron DeSanctimonious, but I don't think Trump said that.

00:26:18.000 I think he denied it.

00:26:19.000 But let me play a little bit of this clip from Donald Trump for you.

00:26:22.000 Not the full thing, it's four minutes, but we'll give you part of his statement here.

00:26:26.000 Stop the warmongers and globalists.

00:26:29.000 World War III has never been closer than it is right now.

00:26:32.000 We need to clean house of all of the warmongers and America's last globalists in the Deep State, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Industrial Complex.

00:26:45.000 One of the reasons I was the only president in generations who didn't start a war is that I was the only president who rejected the catastrophic advice of many of Washington's generals, bureaucrats, and the so-called diplomats who only know how to get us into conflict, but they don't know how to get us out.

00:27:05.000 For decades, we've had the very same people such as Victoria Nuland and many others just like her obsessed with pushing Ukraine toward NATO, not to mention the State Department support for uprisings in Ukraine. 0.99

00:27:21.000 These people have been seeking confrontation for a long time, much like the case in Iraq and other parts of the world, and now we're teetering on the brink of World War III.

00:27:33.000 And a lot of people don't see it, but I see it, and I've been right about a lot of things.

00:27:37.000 They all say Trump's been right about everything.

00:27:40.000 None of this excuses... They all say.

00:27:43.000 Thank you for who is they, though.

00:27:44.000 Yeah, exactly, dude.

00:27:46.000 What's Trump trying to say?

00:27:47.000 I watched this video until that moment and shut it off earlier as well.

00:27:49.000 Right after he said, quote, they all say Trump's been right about everything.

00:27:54.000 This hyperbolic madness is not poised for office.

00:27:58.000 I'm sorry, the guy's not stable.

00:27:59.000 Yeah, you're wrong. 1.00

00:28:00.000 Complete idiocy to say that kind of thing. 1.00

00:28:02.000 Expect to be the president. 1.00

00:28:03.000 Excuse me, wrong, wrong.

00:28:06.000 Everyone says I'm the greatest at everything. 0.57

00:28:08.000 Like, who the hell talks like that?

00:28:10.000 Trump does. 0.95

00:28:11.000 Look, man.

00:28:12.000 It's a lie!

00:28:13.000 That's not a true statement! 1.00

00:28:15.000 He's a liar! 0.99

00:28:17.000 Hyperbole and lies are distinct. 1.00

00:28:20.000 Yes, hyperbole can be a lie as well.

00:28:22.000 I mean, Trump being boastful and talking like that is kind of something I would roll my eyes at, but I gotta be real.

00:28:29.000 With the East Palestine stuff, with seeing Joe Biden go to Ukraine, I'm like, I'm voting for Trump.

00:28:36.000 Like, Ron DeSantis has the tact.

00:28:39.000 He's got good policy.

00:28:40.000 He's done great for Florida.

00:28:41.000 But just like, this was such an unnerving move that Joe Biden did with this Ukraine trip. 0.99

00:28:51.000 It was like getting punched in the balls as hard as possible. 0.98

00:28:55.000 And I just, we need a bloviating braggart like Trump who really will go down to East Palestine if that's what it takes. 0.99

00:29:04.000 Like, I like Ron DeSantis.

00:29:06.000 But he comes, he does, I don't know man, I can't explain it.

00:29:10.000 It's like, Ron DeSantis has done a really good job.

00:29:12.000 He's given us a lot of what we want.

00:29:13.000 We've seen a lot of tremendous success.

00:29:15.000 But he's a VP.

00:29:17.000 He's a commander, he's a lieutenant, he's number one. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Donald Trump is the crazy guy who's like, get me a plane, I'm flying to East Palestine right now. 0.92

00:29:26.000 And Joe Biden's the guy who says, whatever my boss tells me to do, I'll go do. 0.98

00:29:30.000 And then gives away our money.

00:29:31.000 And then Ron DeSantis is the guy who's like, Yeah, we're gonna do it right, we're gonna fix it, we're gonna get what people want, but that's a C-O-O, not a C-E-O.

00:29:39.000 Trump's a C-E-O, DeSantis is a C-O-O.

00:29:41.000 For those that understand corporate structure, you get exactly what I mean.

00:29:43.000 The C-O-O handles the directives of the C-E-O.

00:29:47.000 The C-E-O, which is Trump, says, we've gotta do this, we've gotta do this, make it happen.

00:29:51.000 Then you get a DeSantis, who understands, and he executes.

00:29:55.000 It seems like a lesser of two evils argument.

00:29:58.000 I don't really know how he's gonna be able to separate himself from the lockdowns.

00:30:02.000 I mean, but again, lesser of two evils is something that some people go by.

00:30:06.000 I've never been able to to fall into that.

00:30:09.000 I just it's true.

00:30:11.000 And a lot of people have everybody says, you know, they're all saying, how does Trump get past?

00:30:17.000 He was he was a lockdown guy.

00:30:18.000 Initially, he was the president.

00:30:20.000 He wouldn't intervene in the state's decisions to keep states locked down.

00:30:24.000 DeSantis did lock down initially as well.

00:30:27.000 So I'll rebut with that, I guess.

00:30:29.000 You know, Trump said, we're going to shut down 15 days to slow the spread.

00:30:32.000 DeSantis agreed.

00:30:33.000 Then DeSantis reversed.

00:30:35.000 Trump, as the president, didn't have the power to force states to do anything.

00:30:39.000 Arguably, he could invoke some, you know, emergency powers when it came to the summer of love.

00:30:44.000 He could have, you know, invoked the Insurrection Act and shut down these riots.

00:30:48.000 And if he did, could have prevented 30 plus deaths, which he should have done.

00:30:53.000 But I'm just saying, man, based on his foreign policy, I kind of, I am worried, as Trump points out, DeSantis does have these warmongers, these internationalists, these investment neocon establishment shills getting behind him.

00:31:09.000 I'm not going to blame DeSantis for that.

00:31:11.000 It's what he does with the money.

00:31:13.000 But I got to say, like, with the East Palestine situation, I'm not convinced that Ron DeSantis would be a Trump in this regard.

00:31:25.000 Trump is the guy who flies there and says, I'm going to visit these people.

00:31:30.000 Biden's the guy who says, don't know, don't care. 0.92

00:31:33.000 Let them rot for all I care.

00:31:34.000 It's surprising that every presidential candidate isn't going there because it's, it's like a requirement.

00:31:40.000 You have to go there.

00:31:41.000 Not Nikki Haley either.

00:31:42.000 Right.

00:31:43.000 Trump was the one who announced he was going.

00:31:44.000 I don't know if he did yet, but still I'm like, I'll take it.

00:31:48.000 That's what we get.

00:31:50.000 My view of Trump is that there's probably a lot better people who could be president, but I really do feel like you're more likely to get a politician.

00:32:00.000 You vote for Trump, and you know what you're getting, and I think he really does like this country.

00:32:05.000 I also think he's got an ego problem.

00:32:06.000 Do you know what you're getting, though?

00:32:07.000 Because, you know, we heard a lot of love for WikiLeaks in the run-up to, you know, his presidency, but then, you know, nothing after he got elected.

00:32:17.000 But he loves WikiLeaks when they're helping him.

00:32:20.000 Exactly.

00:32:21.000 You know Trump is going to bloviate.

00:32:23.000 He's going to say things that he thinks will work for his base, and there's no guarantee that happens.

00:32:27.000 But you do know he wants to build a wall.

00:32:29.000 He's going to take... Look, Ann Coulter was complaining that he didn't build the wall, and I'm like, the dude was trying.

00:32:35.000 Like, I really do think Trump was trying.

00:32:37.000 I can respect she's mad that we didn't get the wall.

00:32:40.000 And she said, you know, only, you know, hundreds of miles of fencing or whatever.

00:32:44.000 And I'm like, yeah, he got he got triple layer bollard fencing in key areas.

00:32:47.000 It's like, man, I'll take what I can get.

00:32:49.000 It is lesser of two evils argument.

00:32:50.000 Yeah, I don't I don't even know if I feel like it feel feel that way.

00:32:54.000 Like, Trump is different from the lesser of two evils.

00:32:56.000 Mitt Romney and Obama was the lesser of two evils. 1.00

00:32:59.000 Trump is something outside the picture who's probably gonna do a bunch of dumb stuff. 0.98

00:33:03.000 But his ego won't let him let Americans down. 0.99

00:33:08.000 Here's what I think.

00:33:09.000 Trump's ego is massive.

00:33:11.000 Probably the biggest on the planet.

00:33:12.000 And you can say it's a problem. 0.98

00:33:13.000 He's also very arrogant.

00:33:14.000 But this means he's also desperate for the love and admiration of the American people.

00:33:19.000 And that's, I'm like, that right there matters. 0.99

00:33:22.000 Biden doesn't give a crap at all. 0.96

00:33:25.000 He knows people hate him, but the media is going to cover for him anyway, so he can abandon the American people to go fly to Ukraine. 0.98

00:33:31.000 Trump, on the other hand, desperately wants people to love him, so much so he puts his name everywhere to make sure people know who he is.

00:33:38.000 He's got daddy issues.

00:33:39.000 But you can count on that for him to do what he can to make you say, I like you, Trump.

00:33:45.000 And that's, hey, if it's narcissism at the root, but he's desperately trying to convince you that he's awesome, I'll take it.

00:33:52.000 Because Biden certainly ain't doing it. 0.96

00:33:53.000 He's leaving you to die.

00:33:54.000 I believed that about Trump until he became president day two and went on script and started reading off a prompter.

00:34:01.000 He was off book for the whole run-up to the election during the process, and it even got exciting.

00:34:07.000 I didn't even want him to be president, but it was like, at least someone's being honest.

00:34:11.000 And then I see his eyeballs tracking the prompter as he's talking, and he's talking like this, and that is not how Donald Trump talks.

00:34:19.000 I'm like, oh my God.

00:34:20.000 Well, he has to come here.

00:34:22.000 That's the only way that you can really press him.

00:34:26.000 Maybe I'll fly out for the Friday morning show and interview Trump.

00:34:30.000 That'd be cool.

00:34:31.000 No, he should come here.

00:34:34.000 This is the other challenge.

00:34:36.000 But he should be willing to, because he should want to reach these people.

00:34:41.000 Yeah, but maybe if I had the ego and arrogance of Trump, and don't get me wrong, I got ego and arrogance for sure, but not enough to be like, Donald Trump should be in my studio.

00:34:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:52.000 But to feel the culture.

00:34:54.000 He should want to connect.

00:34:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:56.000 It's not worth his time.

00:34:59.000 Donald Trump should be honored at the thought of me letting him come here and sit in this studio.

00:35:06.000 I think he needs to show up.

00:35:07.000 A two hour conversation for a million people would be well worth his time.

00:35:12.000 Exactly.

00:35:13.000 I think that Trump didn't get everything he said he would done, and that is disappointing to some people.

00:35:18.000 Like, I personally feel like maybe it would have been nice to get some more progress on border security and the wall.

00:35:23.000 I think he did do some things.

00:35:24.000 You know, I can be disappointed that it wasn't as much as I'd like, but I think the economy was strong under him.

00:35:29.000 I think that there were a lot of positives to the Trump presidency, and COVID was a very unusual way to go out that unfortunately, you know, has put him in a weird position going into 2024.

00:35:41.000 I think that the hardest thing about the Trump presidency was that he was so good at captivating his audience when he was campaigning and then when he got into the White House it's hard for me not to think that he switched out who was around him and that he was often misled by bad advice and I would be afraid going into 24 if he was elected again that he would again give seats to advisors who maybe don't have his best interests or the Best interest of his base at heart.

00:36:09.000 And that is nerve-wracking as a voter to say, like, do we, do we try again?

00:36:13.000 It's not that we shouldn't.

00:36:14.000 I mean, especially given that he is willing to go to East Palestine when at least two Biden officials are, were at least planning, like, Biden did leave the country the head of the EPA was going to and then was like, oh, just kidding.

00:36:26.000 I'll stay here and deal with Ohio.

00:36:28.000 I mean, the Biden administration's legacy In the past three years, or however long he's been in, is not good.

00:36:35.000 And I think one bad year of Trump versus everything he accomplished, you know, it's kind of clear who would be a stronger candidate.

00:36:40.000 I'm hearing that Trump's gonna be there tomorrow?

00:36:43.000 That's what I heard too, but he hasn't officially released a date.

00:36:43.000 I don't know, has anyone heard?

00:36:46.000 It's like the EPA just rushed in to beat him there.

00:36:50.000 A lot, if you're listening, you want to go to Ohio and check this out.

00:36:55.000 So we'll get a lot of Eliahu, see if he's interested in going down there and that'd be really, really cool.

00:36:59.000 I like DeSantis.

00:37:01.000 I think he's doing really well on culture war issues.

00:37:04.000 But this is the kind of stuff that, I'll say it again, Trump is a CEO.

00:37:10.000 He's the visionary.

00:37:11.000 He's got the plan.

00:37:13.000 Yeah, but a good CEO can do that without a COO.

00:37:14.000 know the COO is the guy in the suit who executes the vision of the CEO and

00:37:19.000 knows how to navigate that system to get the job done. So yeah a good CEO can do

00:37:24.000 that without a COO. You know if you have a large company you're gonna need

00:37:28.000 someone to organize but a good CEO can do all the positions of the company.

00:37:31.000 Right and I think Donald Trump is a good CEO but I don't think Ron DeSantis is.

00:37:37.000 I think Ron DeSantis is a COO.

00:37:40.000 I'm not speaking ill of Trump's abilities.

00:37:43.000 I'm saying I think DeSantis has proven very, very well that he's a good leader, but it feels to me like with a story like this, you know, I don't know.

00:37:56.000 Trump feels like the guy after all this.

00:37:58.000 There could be a dark horse that is completely outside the realm that we're not thinking about.

00:38:02.000 Nikki Haley, for sure.

00:38:03.000 John Bolton.

00:38:04.000 No, but fully outside.

00:38:06.000 In the same way that Trump was an outsider, who's someone that is intellectual and has an absolutely massive following that could come in and stir things up?

00:38:16.000 Joe Rogan.

00:38:17.000 He would never do it.

00:38:17.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:38:18.000 Yeah, yeah, but I mean, he's smart, but I don't know if I'd call him an intellectual.

00:38:23.000 He, I don't, where is he?

00:38:25.000 You know, if he really wants this, why would he give out on this show, for instance? 0.95

00:38:28.000 That's ridiculous, Kanye. 0.70

00:38:30.000 No, no, he's not interested. 0.97

00:38:32.000 Apparently Buttigieg is going, he's rushing there now.

00:38:35.000 I'm telling you, the EPA, the federal government is reacting to Trump saying he was going to be there.

00:38:40.000 Trump said this Friday night, and they're like, oh goodness, we have to beat him there because if he goes, Especially to a county he won twice, in a state he won twice, and then is like, I am here for you, and the Biden administration is not.

00:38:52.000 In fact, not even the Biden administration, Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, anyone who might seek to replace Biden, it's an unbeatable moment for Trump, and it would mean a lot to the people who voted for him in the first place.

00:39:04.000 Trump should show up with a checkbook and just start writing thousand-dollar checks to locals.

00:39:08.000 Yeah, and make a viral video of it.

00:39:10.000 Ben Johnson's like, that was my move.

00:39:11.000 Oh, no, you can be like, shout out to Benny.

00:39:13.000 Benny Johnson did it first, but it was a tremendous idea, so we're going to do it.

00:39:17.000 I bet a lot of these people were getting advice that in the last two weeks, if you go there and there's dioxins in the air, you could very well get lymphoma, some sort of skin cancer and die, like that could end your life kind of fear.

00:39:28.000 I think there's a lot of that, which is even more sickening that there has been radio silence.

00:39:32.000 They wouldn't have been so scared that they would have stayed outside the town, probably, and at least even going to the general area would have helped them.

00:39:38.000 So I don't think that they were actually concerned for their Health.

00:39:41.000 I was for my own personal health.

00:39:43.000 I actually didn't want to go because I was like, I don't want to breathe that in.

00:39:46.000 There's a picture that the Ohio EPA put up of like they're the director of the Ohio EPA, the lieutenant governor of Ohio, like holding plastic cups with water in them.

00:39:55.000 They're like, they're drinking the water.

00:39:57.000 But I was I just kept thinking, why isn't it a video?

00:39:57.000 It's fine.

00:40:00.000 Why aren't you showing me them actually drinking it?

00:40:02.000 There might be one circulating around, but they're saying things to assuage fears by also still not doing anything.

00:40:09.000 Let's jump into this next story.

00:40:10.000 We did talk about this the other day, but now it's trending again.

00:40:13.000 We have this from the New York Intelligencer.

00:40:15.000 When Marjorie Taylor Greene says national divorce, she means another civil war. 0.83

00:40:21.000 Well, maybe.

00:40:21.000 Alright.

00:40:22.000 I don't think so.

00:40:24.000 But there's a viral, it's trending on Twitter with now many conservatives and libertarians saying national divorce is a very, very bad idea because it would just mean that China stomps out what's left of the U.S. 0.99

00:40:37.000 once we disassociate or break up.

00:40:39.000 Some people are calling it a delusion saying the country is mostly blue cities with red rural areas.

00:40:45.000 My attitude is I don't know about need a national divorce.

00:40:48.000 I know Michael Mills talks quite a bit about it, but I just know that the divide between cities and rural areas or red areas and blue areas is so different.

00:40:58.000 It is completely different dimensions of perception and reality.

00:41:03.000 It is people in one state.

00:41:06.000 In California with open borders with child sex changes with limitless abortion that is it is drifted so far away from where traditional Americans are where even moderate like liberal types are that.

00:41:21.000 There's no bringing that back together.

00:41:24.000 So you can argue we can't have a national divorce and it's like sure.

00:41:28.000 How does a country exist when two states have laws that are so divergent and cultural views are so divergent they're ready to start shooting each other?

00:41:38.000 Right?

00:41:39.000 So I don't know, I don't think Marjorie Taylor Greene's saying civil war.

00:41:42.000 No, she's attempting to avoid war at all costs. 1.00

00:41:45.000 From what I've said, what she's told me is that she has kids and she does not want her kids fighting in a war to die.

00:41:50.000 So this is, she thinks that a national divorce could prevent a war, but I think it's short-sighted, personally.

00:41:56.000 That's literally what the first civil war was.

00:41:58.000 The South attempted a peaceful divorce, saying, we sign it, we voted on it, we agreed on it, have a nice day, and the Union said, F no.

00:42:08.000 We're sending in the troops, and then tried calling in troops, and then a bunch of other states joined.

00:42:12.000 Check out this story from TimCast.com.

00:42:14.000 A tax on power grid up 71%.

00:42:18.000 Officials say the number of politically or ideologically motivated taxes is growing.

00:42:21.000 So, welcome to your daily... Well, I don't think it's fair to call it a black pill.

00:42:25.000 Here's why.

00:42:27.000 Blackpilling to me is like despair and depression.

00:42:30.000 Like, it's all bad.

00:42:32.000 And I don't think bad is the right word to describe a circumstance that just happens to be.

00:42:39.000 Bad things are happening.

00:42:40.000 Bad things happen.

00:42:41.000 Good things happen after bad things.

00:42:43.000 I mean, the Roman Empire collapsed, you had the Dark Ages, and then, you know, things, we had a Renaissance, we had a Golden Age, things got better.

00:42:49.000 I mean, granted, there were plagues and war and other things like that, but it's an ebb and flow.

00:42:52.000 You can't expect all of life on the planet to always be sittin' in your lounge chair, eatin' a bowl of nachos, watchin' a football game.

00:43:00.000 There's gonna be hardship, especially when weak men make hard times, but then hard men, hard times will make strong men.

00:43:07.000 What I see right now is, we have the unfortunate privilege of being All of you listening, the strong men in the bad time.

00:43:19.000 Weak men have made a bad time, and we are now getting to what may be the bottom of it.

00:43:23.000 Maybe it gets worse, but then it's going to require strong men, people like you watching, to do what it takes to fortify, defend, expand, protect the ideals that we care about.

00:43:36.000 For all of the insanity in this country when it comes to the culture war with far-left psychotic individuals, with weird gender ideology, we all know that stuff can't survive.

00:43:47.000 The Soviet Union lasted, what, 69 years?

00:43:50.000 That's it?

00:43:51.000 The United States has been around for over 250-some, what, 270-something?

00:43:55.000 So, was it 250-something, right?

00:43:58.000 So, we've done a pretty good job, much better than the Soviet Union. 0.97

00:44:00.000 Their union collapsed.

00:44:02.000 In the event these lunatics start destroying our institutions, and they are, in the event the institutions crumble, their ideas will cease to exist because they only exist within the confines of this protective bubble.

00:44:16.000 And then, strong individuals will just pick things back up, get back to work, and preserve the ideals of individual liberty, freedom, etc.

00:44:27.000 Except what happened with Atlantis, there are situations where we could completely annihilate everything and start from the ground, start from rock bottom, literally the Stone Age, where we need to figure out how to carve metal with rock.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, but if that occurred, that wasn't self-inflicted.

00:44:41.000 That we know of, but it might have been.

00:44:43.000 They might have had some sort of vibrational technology that lowered the Earth's magnetic field and allowed meteors to land on the planet.

00:44:49.000 Who knows?

00:44:50.000 Like, it could be It's the implosion annihilation as opposed to the explosion annihilation, which would be nuclear war.

00:44:57.000 You know, that's one possible.

00:44:58.000 Maybe it was just coincidence, maybe.

00:45:01.000 But they could have used technology that annihilated them.

00:45:04.000 There's no way to know.

00:45:05.000 But regardless, I mean, now we need to channel resources effectively towards the causes that we believe in.

00:45:13.000 And, you know, some people call it parallel economy.

00:45:16.000 There's this whole concept of a network state that Balaji has come up with a really interesting book sort of about how, you know, social networks, online communities are going to crowdsource, particularly with crypto, because, you know, that is a fully independent outside economic structure.

00:45:34.000 And so we're already building up the parallel world and it's going to happen simultaneously, like this idea that there's going to be some sort of like It's just not all going to happen at once.

00:45:49.000 It's going to happen slowly over time, and we're seeing the alternatives build up.

00:45:53.000 So there's all kinds of sustainable conscious communities all over the world that are tuning in to how to do things the right way.

00:45:59.000 So I think that what you're saying, Tim, solutions are happening.

00:46:04.000 It's slowly getting built up.

00:46:05.000 I'm really excited to do a Castcastle Yellowstone parody.

00:46:10.000 About the castle ranch, and we're chicken ranchers.

00:46:13.000 And they keep trying to steal our land.

00:46:15.000 You know, we'll go out and we'll herd the chickens.

00:46:18.000 It'll be really funny.

00:46:18.000 I think it's nice to live through prosperous times, but I think as an individual you have more influence during difficult times, right?

00:46:25.000 The way you choose to live your life during challenges and the values that you choose to fight for and the changes you choose to make for your life, you know, right now if this is a difficult time, they are more likely to determine the course of your personal history as well as your family's history as well as your community's history.

00:46:40.000 I mean, this is the time that you have the chance to make the biggest difference just by the way you choose to live and demonstrate your values.

00:46:48.000 I like to a certain degree the hard times.

00:46:51.000 I don't like the idea that people have to suffer.

00:46:54.000 Like the idea of saying like, oh hard times are great.

00:46:55.000 It's like, yeah, that means people are doing really bad.

00:46:57.000 It's like when Bill Maher said, if a recession will stop Trump, then bring on the recession.

00:47:01.000 And that's like a horrible thing.

00:47:03.000 But me personally, I prefer the active, not the inactive.

00:47:11.000 And so maybe hard times isn't the right word.

00:47:14.000 I like seeing people be logical and active in building their communities up, protecting them, figuring out how to make things work.

00:47:23.000 That means going to meetings.

00:47:25.000 It means struggle.

00:47:27.000 It means, to a certain degree, conflict, like political conflict, not violence.

00:47:31.000 I'm talking about going to a meeting and a guy like, no, your policy on this is wrong.

00:47:35.000 I prefer a society of people who are constantly fighting for what is best because it's the sedentary, it's the lazy, it's the inactive which results in real hard times.

00:47:45.000 When the food goes missing, when the crime runs rampant, that's what we're seeing right now.

00:47:48.000 This is multiculturalism, ladies and gentlemen.

00:47:50.000 This is what happens when the utopia of multiculturalism comes to your country. 0.51

00:47:56.000 This idea that they try to make it seem like multiculturalism is when people of different backgrounds all live together in harmony.

00:48:03.000 What it really means is the values you have aren't shared by your neighbors, which means they don't know and they don't care about you.

00:48:09.000 So when you say something like, I believe in free speech, they go, no.

00:48:13.000 Then your government decides the lowest common denominator is the way things are to be run, and that means no free speech because then someone's going to get mad somewhere.

00:48:21.000 No, we can't live that way.

00:48:22.000 You've got to maintain an overarching culture, a parent culture, of the content we like, the things we agree on, the things we disagree on, the things that are illegal, the things that are legal, and then underneath that, say a U.S.

00:48:33.000 Constitution that guarantees free speech, oh, you can believe whatever you want to believe.

00:48:37.000 You can live in an area called Ukrainian Village in Chicago or Chinatown, where you are mostly surrounded by people who come from the same place as you.

00:48:45.000 You can speak about the ideas you want.

00:48:47.000 Your culture can exist underneath the U.S.

00:48:50.000 cultural umbrella.

00:48:51.000 But this idea of multiculturalism, as they describe it, is basically U.S.

00:48:55.000 culture next to, say, like Middle Eastern cultures, which they clash.

00:49:00.000 Free speech and blasphemy laws, they don't go together. 1.00

00:49:03.000 It's like a melting pot with the temperature turned down.

00:49:05.000 There's no melting.

00:49:07.000 Anybody knows who's making a cheese sauce, certain cheeses are hard cheeses, they don't melt so well, right?

00:49:14.000 So I made it, I did provolone cheddar with Cajun spice and parmesan, but the parmesan doesn't want to melt.

00:49:21.000 And so you got a melting pot, it can work.

00:49:25.000 Cheese sauce was delicious.

00:49:27.000 But the parmesan stayed solid floating.

00:49:31.000 We need to turn up the temperature culturally without sparking the nuclear temperature explosions.

00:49:37.000 I'm talking about making people laugh and find joy and actually engage with their pain and acknowledge it and like let it happen.

00:49:45.000 I think people would have to want to participate then, right?

00:49:48.000 Like, if you have a culture that you love and you identify with and it's in conflict to US values, why would you want to adopt US values?

00:49:56.000 If you're happy with the values of your society and your culture and everything about it, I mean, you have to...

00:50:03.000 There is some active participation.

00:50:05.000 Like, the idea of a melting pot is nice, and it's a good metaphor in a lot of respects, but it negates the fact that people have to actively choose to want to become part of the American cultural fabric.

00:50:18.000 And I think that that's not true for everyone.

00:50:20.000 I think being in a new geographic space isn't the same thing as Wanting to be a part of a new experience, right?

00:50:27.000 That's why when you talk about early immigration to America, I think like Ellis Island and everything, like, there are people who had their cultures, but they also wanted to be here because there was a dream and there was a vision.

00:50:35.000 And I don't know that our culture as a society has that same sort of desire to blend.

00:50:40.000 Well, there's people all over Earth that would be make better Americans than a lot of people that are in the country right now that are actual citizens because that's their beliefs are.

00:50:48.000 I talk to them online.

00:50:49.000 I have video chats with people in other countries that are smarter and more adept than You know, the beer drinking football lovers, no offense, that's you, but if you've got a beer gut, you're a problem.

00:50:59.000 Fix it.

00:51:00.000 Well, and in terms of who is co-opting the culture, I mean, if you look at OpenAI and Chad GPT and all the search engines, you know, basically, they are engineering culture.

00:51:12.000 They're trying to.

00:51:13.000 And so, what's happening, I actually got Chad GPT to admit that it is using data that it doesn't have the rights to.

00:51:24.000 That's a good one.

00:51:25.000 And so they admitted that they should not be using it commercially.

00:51:25.000 Wow.

00:51:30.000 Yeah.

00:51:31.000 Because what are they doing?

00:51:32.000 They're grabbing all data from everywhere that they can.

00:51:35.000 Without permission.

00:51:36.000 Without permission.

00:51:37.000 And your data, your data, your data is all in there, feeding it, making it more valuable to them.

00:51:42.000 So I think we need to sue OpenAI on some sort of class action lawsuit so that they share revenue with The people whose data they're actually using and you know, we obviously need something that is uncensored on the side and unbiased even though that is going to be a chaotic animal that is going to be just as offensive, but it does need to exist.

00:52:06.000 Let's put a tag in that one and talk about AI, but we have breaking news right now.

00:52:10.000 This just happened apparently on Tucker Carlson.

00:52:13.000 Vivek Ramaswamy announces 2024 presidential bid.

00:52:17.000 Just a moment ago, Ian was talking about a potential underdog.

00:52:19.000 I think that was you, right, Ian?

00:52:21.000 I think Bill brought it up.

00:52:22.000 You brought up someone, an underdog or someone coming in and we said yay.

00:52:26.000 Are you psychic?

00:52:28.000 And then, literally, like, as you were saying this, it's like 8.20, so it's about half an hour ago, conservative author and businessman Vivek Ramaswamy announced Tuesday he is running for president in the 2024 race.

00:52:39.000 I'm assuming as a Republican if he's launching on Tucker.

00:52:41.000 Quote, we're in the middle of this national identity crisis, Tucker, where we have celebrated our diversity and our differences for so long.

00:52:48.000 That we forgot all the ways we really are the same as Americans, bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion 250 years ago.

00:52:57.000 I'm proud to say I'm running for United States President to revive those ideals in this country, those basic rules of the road, meritocracy, the idea you get ahead in this country, not in the color of your skin, but in the content of your character.

00:53:09.000 Our diversity is meaningless if nothing greater binds us together.

00:53:13.000 That's really great.

00:53:14.000 I like the guy, we've had him on the show before, but I gotta be honest.

00:53:17.000 Uh, DeSantis is as close as you can get to competition to Donald Trump, and even then, it's a long shot.

00:53:23.000 I mean, we see polls that go back and forth, but Trump is consistently the guy, and I think the reason is Trump woke up a lot of voters who did not vote before, but now are, and they are loyal to Trump.

00:53:34.000 You also need someone with hundreds of millions of followers to have any chance to come out of nowhere.

00:53:39.000 So you need a mega-influencer like The Rock or someone like that.

00:53:46.000 On that level, I'm not saying that he should.

00:53:48.000 Oprah!

00:53:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:49.000 You need to be at the absolute top tier of online personality to come out of nowhere.

00:53:56.000 Why would anyone want to be president?

00:53:59.000 Well, that's what I keep thinking.

00:54:00.000 Not everyone wants to be president, but some people want to launch a presidential campaign, get the exposure, and then produce another book or get a, you know, show on a Fox or whatever they're doing.

00:54:08.000 I want to be like, we are diverting funds to East Palestine.

00:54:11.000 We're going to use some experimental technology and see if we can pull these chemicals out of the river with magnets.

00:54:16.000 We're doing it.

00:54:16.000 And we're sending $600 million into this.

00:54:18.000 Thank you for your taxes.

00:54:20.000 And I want to be able to do that.

00:54:22.000 And I think the president could do that kind of thing.

00:54:24.000 I don't want to get killed off.

00:54:25.000 But do you want to do all the other stuff that the president has to deal with too?

00:54:28.000 I don't want to do it, no.

00:54:29.000 I want to play Divinity too, but I feel like I have to to get it done.

00:54:33.000 So as everybody knows, I'm watching Yellowstone.

00:54:35.000 I'm on season five now.

00:54:36.000 And it's really great when the main character is now the governor, John Dutton, and then

00:54:41.000 it's like you have a meeting with this group and he's like, why?

00:54:44.000 And they're like, your advisor's plan is like, no one told me that!

00:54:48.000 And he's like, walks in the room, you're all fired, get out.

00:54:50.000 And basically they're telling him like, here's your new policy initiative.

00:54:53.000 And he's like, no, it isn't.

00:54:53.000 I never agreed to that.

00:54:55.000 That's how it is.

00:54:56.000 The president, you're going to walk in and they're going to be like, here's your plan for schools.

00:55:00.000 You got it.

00:55:01.000 The CIA is going to walk in and say, here's the war action you're taking in Afghanistan.

00:55:04.000 And you're going to go, sure.

00:55:05.000 Donald Trump was probably the first guy in a long time to go, excuse me, no, not my plan, you're fired.

00:55:11.000 And they got mad.

00:55:13.000 Because like, if you don't repurpose the war, because I'd be like, okay, Lockheed, we're going to repurpose the weapons, let's blow some chemicals up on Mars and heat up the atmosphere.

00:55:19.000 But they might be like, well, if we do that, then the Chinese are going to take Taiwan, the Russians are going to take Crimea.

00:55:24.000 If we if we knew Mars?

00:55:25.000 Mars?

00:55:26.000 If we, if we re-divert the military industrial complex into something less violent and start

00:55:30.000 using its thermonuclear capabilities to heat up the atmosphere on Mars, for instance, as

00:55:34.000 opposed to killing people on earth and laying rubble to cities, that's at least a use of 1.00

00:55:39.000 the materials so that they can keep making money.

00:55:42.000 But the argument might be like, well, then Russia's going to take Crimea and then Poland's

00:55:46.000 next.

00:55:47.000 Like you need to defend against psychosis, maybe.

00:55:49.000 And it's like, at that point, maybe I do.

00:55:51.000 Maybe, maybe the military industrial complex is legit.

00:55:53.000 Who do you guys think Trump picks as VP?

00:55:55.000 John Dutton.

00:55:57.000 I'm just kidding.

00:55:58.000 In the real world, who do you think?

00:55:59.000 I mean, Kevin Costner would not be a bad pick.

00:56:01.000 Yeah, but he's a liberal, isn't he?

00:56:02.000 No, the thing is, I think that John Dutton, when he accepts that he's going to be governor, like, I am the wall that progress smashes against speech.

00:56:12.000 Oh, right.

00:56:13.000 It's one of the best speeches I've ever heard on TV.

00:56:14.000 That doesn't mean anything, I don't watch a lot of TV.

00:56:17.000 Why are people saying that show is woke?

00:56:18.000 I don't get it.

00:56:19.000 I think it's that one character.

00:56:21.000 The activist lady? 0.96

00:56:22.000 Yeah, the daughter-in-law of John Dutton.

00:56:25.000 Because they make him a villain.

00:56:27.000 Subtly.

00:56:28.000 John?

00:56:28.000 Yeah.

00:56:29.000 I think I have never- I've always rooted for that in family when I watch this show.

00:56:32.000 But maybe that's because I'm deaf.

00:56:33.000 He's a hero and villain simultaneously.

00:56:35.000 That's like the subversion.

00:56:36.000 But that's what's interesting about his character.

00:56:38.000 Like, the things that he is villainized for wanting, you actually also sympathize with.

00:56:42.000 Like, he wants to protect his family's legacy.

00:56:44.000 I'm not totally kidding when I say John Dutton would be a good VP pick, like someone who is dedicated to ideals that Americans feel like have been lost, right?

00:56:53.000 Someone who can openly say that like, I put my family first, I put my community first, that would really be powerful.

00:57:01.000 I think one of the downsides of Trump is that he is a celebrity, he is extremely wealthy, I mean, Pence, there's no way he comes back with Pence, right?

00:57:09.000 And the other thing is that Pence hit the Christian conservative Midwest, you know, triangulate that they wanted, but he wasn't enough of a personality to balance Trump.

00:57:18.000 And I think that is why they picked him.

00:57:19.000 On the other hand, Americans want to know that there are other people like Trump.

00:57:23.000 It's gotta be DeSantis.

00:57:25.000 You think so?

00:57:26.000 If Trump, if the ticket was Trump DeSantis.

00:57:28.000 They could win.

00:57:30.000 It would be, I would imagine, you know, let's let's let's do this.

00:57:34.000 You ready guys?

00:57:35.000 If it's Trump DeSantis on the ticket, we're talking 49 state landslide here.

00:57:40.000 Okay, now in all seriousness, you go ahead and clip that Media Matters or whoever else.

00:57:44.000 I think that you'll see a decent point swing, you might see like a, you know, like, like a 51% or some It's not gonna be 49, 49, 49.5, 49.8 or whatever.

00:57:52.000 You might actually get 52%.

00:57:52.000 49.5, 49.8 or whatever, you might actually get 52%.

00:57:56.000 Trump and DeSantis, I think, DeSantis gets you a lot of the more moderate people

00:58:01.000 who are like, well, he's gonna keep Trump in line a little bit, give him good advice,

00:58:04.000 and he's gonna advise on policy better.

00:58:06.000 Plus, being president of the Senate would be really, really great. 0.98

00:58:09.000 Donald Trump is the arrogant guy who's gonna go and clean house. 0.97

00:58:11.000 I think that works.

00:58:13.000 If they team up, that is beyond a winning ticket, because Democrats are struggling.

00:58:18.000 Maybe Tulsi with Trump?

00:58:19.000 No.

00:58:22.000 I mean, I like Tulsi, but I think she would be a cabinet member. 0.89

00:58:28.000 Man, okay, we got a year or so, but you come to me and you say Donald Trump is running with DeSantis as a VP, Tulsi Gabbard is campaigning for them, planning to be a national security advisor, and I'm just like, whew!

00:58:44.000 Swoon for that administration, you know what I mean?

00:58:46.000 It's not perfect, but I talked about this with- I think that this, sorry, this just shows how used we are to having bad leaders.

00:58:57.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:58.000 The fact that, but I hear what you're saying, like- Tulsi- Because it's so bad.

00:59:02.000 I don't see Tulsi as presidential.

00:59:04.000 Because even when you look at her campaign in 2019, 2020, it was very, very much just about the war machine.

00:59:12.000 And I can respect her position on that.

00:59:14.000 I think she's great.

00:59:16.000 She's come around a lot of issues too.

00:59:17.000 She was pro-gun control, now she's eased up on it.

00:59:20.000 But I see her primarily being the inversion of John Bolton.

00:59:25.000 Somebody you bring as a National Security Advisor who is going to help work towards these peace deals in positive ways.

00:59:30.000 I see Ron DeSantis as the COO, a guy who knows how to make these things happen.

00:59:35.000 He's straight to the point.

00:59:37.000 He's in touch.

00:59:38.000 Donald Trump is the, he's literally Even right now, the CEO.

00:59:44.000 He's the crazy guy with the vision that says, this is what the people want. 0.73

00:59:46.000 This is what we got to do. 0.92

00:59:47.000 He likes to sit around watching Fox News.

00:59:49.000 He's not going to be the guy to go out and lift heavy rocks and get the job done.

00:59:52.000 That's going to be DeSantis.

00:59:53.000 And then with the Tulsi Gabbard on national security.

00:59:55.000 Oh, man.

00:59:56.000 I mean, that would just be a plus plus.

00:59:59.000 I think they would.

01:00:00.000 What about Tucker?

01:00:03.000 Why would Tucker leave what he's doing?

01:00:04.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:00:05.000 No, he's not.

01:00:05.000 He's not a policy guy.

01:00:06.000 Tucker is a, he's a bard, right? 1.00

01:00:10.000 He's, you know, he speaks, people listen.

01:00:13.000 He shares ideas, people listen.

01:00:15.000 But he's not the commander in chief.

01:00:18.000 He's the lookout.

01:00:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:21.000 I think there'll be a push for Kristi Noem because she's young, conservative, female, she's from South Dakota. 1.00

01:00:29.000 I think you're right, DeSantis is the strongest choice, but if we're just saying who else might come up.

01:00:34.000 And again, she's someone who could have a nice political future, she's very loyal to Trump, but I think DeSantis It adds to the legacy of, like, the MAGA movement.

01:00:42.000 I think that's what's hard.

01:00:43.000 People don't know.

01:00:44.000 People who are really behind Trump 100% feel strongly about the call to MAGA, America First, don't know who takes up the crown after Trump runs out of chances to be in office, right?

01:00:55.000 Like, if he's re-elected, that's his last term.

01:00:56.000 He can't go again.

01:00:57.000 And so naming DeSantis as your VP or again someone young someone who seems like they can carry forth this movement that is a vote for the future for the people who believe in this movement because they saw what happens if there isn't someone to take Donald Trump's place.

01:01:12.000 It's also interesting, like, remember the Unity project that Brian Weinstein did?

01:01:17.000 And they went after him!

01:01:19.000 Yeah, they got censored, but it's also just sad how such a well-intentioned project just, like, doesn't gain steam, you know?

01:01:27.000 It's like, because unless you ride the divide and just take advantage of the hyper-politicization on each side, like, for some reason just being balanced is not interesting to people.

01:01:38.000 It's sad.

01:01:39.000 I think it's like we're in the sports team mentality, though.

01:01:42.000 You have to vote, you have to get really excited about your candidate, and they have to have a brand, and they have to feel like you're really buying into something.

01:01:48.000 And when you're neutral, when you want to hear both sides of the argument, when you want to just advise people to come together, it doesn't feel competitive.

01:01:56.000 And although we need it, and although it's important, it doesn't win votes the same way.

01:02:02.000 Unfortunately.

01:02:03.000 You think that's just because, well I think it's because the media wants division, divisiveness to sell clicks and to generate the war fervor.

01:02:11.000 Whether it's the person that you hate or the person that's doing their bidding, they want one of those guys in the spotlight.

01:02:16.000 Yeah, I was looking at a bunch of YouTube content and stuff and, man, it is demoralizing quite a bit.

01:02:26.000 I see so much content on Twitter and on YouTube and on Facebook that is beyond clickbait hyperbole, right?

01:02:34.000 I know, like, you know, the title of this video right now is like, Russia Ends Last Nuclear Treaty, Trump Warns of World War III.

01:02:40.000 Those are literal things that happened.

01:02:42.000 You know, I didn't put the headline, World War 3 is now.

01:02:46.000 Putin threatens nukes.

01:02:47.000 The treaty is over.

01:02:49.000 I said, Russia ends last nuclear treaty.

01:02:51.000 He did.

01:02:51.000 Trump warns of World War 3.

01:02:53.000 He did.

01:02:54.000 Granted, I want it to be, like, enticing.

01:02:56.000 I want to grab your attention.

01:02:58.000 But, man, I got scruples, and I'm looking at a lot of people, and they'll get more views by saying something more like, World War III just started, Vladimir Putin threatens to nuke after dissolving treaty, Donald Trump is terrified, or something, like, really just driving it.

01:03:12.000 And that's not even the most extreme.

01:03:13.000 Like, the example I see often is, like, some dude will, you know, trip and fall, and then the video will be titled, Dude Gets Into Horrific Accident, Grotesque Injuries, Morbid, and then you click it, and it's a guy, like, rubbing his shin, because he bumped it into a curb or something.

01:03:26.000 It's like, the stuff that gets attention, what everyone's striving for is the most extreme headline.

01:03:32.000 And so one of the problems we have right now with news, in order to attract attention, you have to one-up yourself every single time.

01:03:38.000 Thus, the narrative emerging on Twitter is increasingly getting unhinged, and we're addicted, we need more, we need more to trigger that dopamine.

01:03:46.000 I mean, we've honestly experienced this exact issue at Mines because, you know, we've always been very balanced.

01:03:53.000 Actually, our initial wave of growth was tons of progressives, like people following Edward Snowden and people who are like, you know, with Anonymous and all of that stuff.

01:04:01.000 And then, you know, after Trump got elected, we got a huge wave of conservatives and libertarians.

01:04:05.000 So we actually do have this very balanced user base, which is very different than the other conservative social networks like, you know, Parler, Gab, Truth, you know, those kinds of things, which are very specifically political.

01:04:21.000 And we try to stay neutral.

01:04:23.000 And sometimes it's like, I mean, I cannot make myself fall for the temptation to go one way or the other.

01:04:31.000 But you know, the reality is that Unfortunately, people do click on that more, and they want you to do it.

01:04:38.000 I'm just imagining something in my mind.

01:04:40.000 I want you to imagine this.

01:04:41.000 When's Election Day 2024?

01:04:43.000 Do we know?

01:04:43.000 Is it November 7th or something?

01:04:45.000 I don't know.

01:04:46.000 It's election night, and the votes are coming in, and they've got Joe Biden, Donald Trump, because Biden's running, who knows?

01:04:54.000 And then, you know, they're counting the votes, and then all of a sudden they're like, it looks like 100% of Texas is reporting.

01:05:02.000 Well, this doesn't make sense.

01:05:03.000 We only have about a million votes between Trump and Biden.

01:05:06.000 What's going on?

01:05:07.000 And then all of a sudden, one by one, all of the states, 100% reporting, 100% reporting, but only a couple hundred thousand or a million are between Trump and Biden.

01:05:14.000 And then all of a sudden they're like, we're just getting this right now, a third name.

01:05:18.000 And then it's Ron Paul, and he gets 80% of every state, and somehow they're like, people just wrote his name in, and then we get Ron Paul.

01:05:26.000 Or someone like Ron Paul.

01:05:28.000 How old is he?

01:05:29.000 Is he 90?

01:05:31.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:05:32.000 I'm just like, you know, because people are chatting, talking about Trump, DeSantis, Gabbard, and I'm like, yeah, but deep down, everybody would be like, Ron Paul.

01:05:32.000 He's probably.

01:05:40.000 He'd be like, you know, I mean, when, what year was it when he was really killing it?

01:05:45.000 It's like, oh, he's 88.

01:05:47.000 He's 88.

01:05:48.000 He's 88 and it was in 08 that was the year that he was running where he got a lot of

01:05:51.000 fire.

01:05:52.000 And the internet boosted him like crazy.

01:05:53.000 Blew up and he was by far sort of the favorite of the internet.

01:05:57.000 But for some reason it just doesn't show up in the numbers at the end of the day.

01:06:01.000 So even back then the internet was not as big.

01:06:05.000 Viewership was nowhere near as big.

01:06:06.000 You were getting tens of millions of views on these nightly cable shows, the internet was getting tens of thousands.

01:06:11.000 Now, it's all flattening out, decentralizing.

01:06:13.000 So even still, the popularity of people we may have heard of may not reach the majority of people.

01:06:19.000 So you think if Ron Paul happened today, it would be a different story with that level of momentum that he had?

01:06:26.000 No, I don't know.

01:06:27.000 I'm just saying, like, if we're truly talking about who we would want to be president, anybody who actually cares about this country, I would assume even many Trump supporters, would probably be like, yeah, if we could have Ron Paul, we'd take Ron Paul.

01:06:41.000 He's going to secure our borders.

01:06:42.000 He's going to, well, I'm assuming.

01:06:44.000 I think he's that degree of, but I know that he's anti-intervention.

01:06:47.000 I know that he wants to end the Fed, all of these things that generally will make things better for the working class.

01:06:52.000 I don't completely agree with him, and I'm not trying to sit here and be like, I think Ron Paul's a perfect guy.

01:06:56.000 He's just the I'm-gonna-leave-you-alone guy and bring things back to the American people, back to the way things in this country are supposed to be run.

01:07:01.000 And it's interesting that Rand kind of doesn't fully have the fire of Ron, even though Rand... He's only half a Ron.

01:07:09.000 I mean... He's a deluded Ron.

01:07:10.000 Yeah, I mean, look, there's a lot of great people, historical figures, whose kids you know, get halfway there.

01:07:16.000 It's true. I mean, same thing with Donald Trump Jr., right?

01:07:18.000 Like, no one's going to vote for him for president. As far as I know, it's not that he wouldn't

01:07:21.000 do a good job. I just don't think he has the popularity and following. There are other, like we're

01:07:25.000 saying, DeSantis, there are other people who are in the political sphere who I think would have a

01:07:29.000 higher momentum.

01:07:30.000 Yeah, but Don Jr.

01:07:32.000 does strike me as somebody who in the future could easily be that charismatic historical figure.

01:07:37.000 There are a lot of people, famous people, have kids and you're like, oh yeah, they're a kid, what do they do?

01:07:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:44.000 Like they don't reach that level, for whatever reason.

01:07:47.000 Don Jr.

01:07:47.000 is massively well-known, famous, with millions of followers.

01:07:51.000 Ten, twenty more years, I think he certainly could be someone to take the place of his dad.

01:07:55.000 There are a lot of people, I don't want to call anybody out or anything like that, but there are famous musicians who have kids and you're like, eh.

01:08:02.000 They never got nearly as big.

01:08:04.000 Some legendary status and then the kid doesn't fill the shoes.

01:08:08.000 Yeah, a lot of times it's struggle that makes someone great and then if they're great their kids don't have to struggle.

01:08:13.000 Well, I don't know that Donald Trump struggled.

01:08:15.000 He didn't.

01:08:15.000 His dad was super wealthy.

01:08:17.000 He had a million dollars handed to him pretty early on to start his own thing.

01:08:20.000 Don Jr., probably no struggle.

01:08:22.000 I mean, everyone struggles in their own way.

01:08:23.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, there are all kinds of private struggles that people go through.

01:08:26.000 They weren't starving or anything.

01:08:26.000 Someone said to me once, this is interesting, do you think Donald Trump has ever walked a mile?

01:08:32.000 I'm a golf course, probably.

01:08:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:35.000 It seems like a stupid question, but when you're thinking about someone who is born into a wealthy family, it's not even about Trump. 0.99

01:08:41.000 I'm not trying to drag Trump. 1.00

01:08:42.000 It's this idea of people who are born in New York who are born to wealthy families, they walk out their front door to a black car waiting for them.

01:08:49.000 Why walk a mile?

01:08:50.000 You get out and get the car.

01:08:51.000 You don't got time for this.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, you walk a block or two to go grab something. 0.97

01:08:54.000 Of course, it's a silly question.

01:08:56.000 But the reality is, yes, of course, Donald Trump has probably walked a mile.

01:09:00.000 He's probably walked five miles.

01:09:01.000 He's probably walked around New York.

01:09:03.000 But he's walked substantially less than you have.

01:09:06.000 That's an interesting thing, you know?

01:09:08.000 Yeah, like number of miles that you've walked towards your sort of like groundedness as a human?

01:09:13.000 I don't know about that.

01:09:14.000 I just mean, there's a distinct, there's a difference between people who are born wealthy and how they live their lives and the average person.

01:09:21.000 I don't get the Trump phenomenon.

01:09:22.000 I don't get it.

01:09:23.000 I feel like he was like the best of a pool of terrible candidates and people just were missing daddy because they didn't have strong father figures in 2016, so he was what was there.

01:09:34.000 But he lies to people.

01:09:36.000 He's a rich kid.

01:09:39.000 Well, he just told everyone he- that everyone said he's the greatest all the time.

01:09:42.000 I mean, he just- he lies for a living.

01:09:43.000 Okay, okay, okay.

01:09:44.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:09:45.000 He said they all say Trump's been right about everything.

01:09:46.000 Who- that's a lie.

01:09:47.000 How is it a lie?

01:09:48.000 No, they don't.

01:09:49.000 They don't all say that, Donald.

01:09:50.000 Who's they?

01:09:51.000 Who's they, though?

01:09:51.000 Exactly.

01:09:52.000 What does he even- what does he even- what does he even make- Ian.

01:09:54.000 He's talking about.

01:09:55.000 Someone being a boastful braggart is being a boastful braggart.

01:09:58.000 Someone lying as if Trump said, I went to a meeting of seniors and everyone in the room clapped for me saying I was the greatest.

01:10:05.000 You're like, okay, that never happened.

01:10:07.000 That's a specific thing.

01:10:07.000 Trump being like, everybody loves me.

01:10:09.000 It's like, well, what does he mean by that?

01:10:11.000 Yeah, but it's a manipulative linguistic technique to do that constantly.

01:10:15.000 And that is what he does.

01:10:16.000 Sure.

01:10:17.000 But here's the issue.

01:10:19.000 You want to talk about lying.

01:10:20.000 The issue I take with Donald Trump is that.

01:10:21.000 Is that he comes out and he goes, you know, everybody says I'm really the best president ever and I'm like, oh, okay, you know, sure.

01:10:27.000 But like, he doesn't, first of all, he doesn't say that because he knows half the people lie about him all the time and hate him.

01:10:34.000 Donald Trump comes out on the White House lawn and he's like, we're going to be selling billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia.

01:10:40.000 We're going to make a ton of money.

01:10:41.000 It's great.

01:10:42.000 And everyone's just like, he's just explaining what we're doing in terms of propping up the economy.

01:10:47.000 He comes out and he goes, we're keeping 200 troops in Syria to protect the oil.

01:10:51.000 Don't worry.

01:10:52.000 And it's like, He's just saying it out loud.

01:10:56.000 He's honest about some of the most important things.

01:10:58.000 I don't care that he comes out and he's like, everybody loves me.

01:11:00.000 I'm like, okay, Don, but thanks for telling me that you kept troops in Syria to protect oil.

01:11:04.000 I mean, granted, he didn't want to, they made him do it, but still, that's the stuff I care about.

01:11:08.000 Yeah, he's undoubtedly the first president to ever remove the filter to that level.

01:11:13.000 The Saudi Arabia thing was like just seeing the intercept be like, he just said it.

01:11:20.000 He just came out and said it.

01:11:22.000 It's like every president has always lied about selling weapons to these Middle Eastern countries.

01:11:28.000 Donald Trump comes out when the Saudis are decimating Yemen and there's a major humanitarian crisis and just says, but it's okay, we're going to make a ton of money.

01:11:37.000 It's going to be great for the US economy.

01:11:39.000 And he just tells you he's doing it.

01:11:42.000 That's what matters to me.

01:11:43.000 Trump can come out and say his mom said he's the most handsome guy in the classroom

01:11:47.000 and I'll be like, oh, okay, yeah, I don't care about that.

01:11:50.000 But then if he comes out and goes, I think we spent about a trillion dollars

01:11:53.000 on these weapons in these countries, I'll be like, wow, maybe we should not do those things.

01:11:58.000 I mean, I feel like you gotta buddy up with him, man.

01:12:01.000 You gotta get in his head more.

01:12:03.000 You gotta build a relationship.

01:12:04.000 I feel, yeah.

01:12:05.000 I mean.

01:12:06.000 Well, because, you know, obviously massive community listening

01:12:11.000 that he wants to access.

01:12:12.000 And I feel like there's, he knows who you are.

01:12:16.000 He knows, you know, this community and he should want to befriend this community.

01:12:22.000 And if he can't show that he wants to do that, then, you know, I don't know.

01:12:26.000 It's like he wanted to go on Rogan and Rogan didn't want to have him because he knew he was just going to get used.

01:12:31.000 That's crazy to me.

01:12:31.000 Used?

01:12:32.000 What do you mean?

01:12:32.000 Like people like I go on Joe Rogan and I went from 200,000 to like 600,000 subs in a month.

01:12:37.000 It was crazy.

01:12:38.000 Like everybody knows if you get on a big podcast, it brings awareness to who you are and the work you're doing.

01:12:45.000 If Donald Trump asked to come on the show, I'd be like, you tell me when and we will kick off anybody.

01:12:50.000 Bill's coming on the show? Bill, get the f- out.

01:12:52.000 Donald Trump? No, we just have you sit there or something. 0.90

01:12:54.000 But if Donald Trump wanted to come on, I'd say yes.

01:12:56.000 I think maybe he wanted to do the debate between them and then

01:13:02.000 it didn't work out.

01:13:04.000 Was it the other way around?

01:13:06.000 Well, no.

01:13:07.000 Trump was willing to do it, but I forget what happened.

01:13:10.000 I know for a fact that Joe said he's not interested in having him on.

01:13:13.000 He said on his show something about that.

01:13:14.000 He didn't want to help the guy or something.

01:13:16.000 Maybe he also feels like he's not in a position to really debate.

01:13:21.000 Joe Rogan is a great dude.

01:13:23.000 He's a good friend, man.

01:13:24.000 He really helped us out back when we all got sick and all that stuff.

01:13:27.000 But I really feel like he absolutely should have endorsed Donald Trump.

01:13:32.000 He should have had him on the show.

01:13:33.000 That's just me.

01:13:34.000 Because if Donald Trump got a big bump in 2020, Imagine all of these crises that we would be avoiding right now.

01:13:41.000 Donald Trump is far from a perfect individual. 0.86

01:13:43.000 He's kind of a gross guy in a lot of ways. 0.99

01:13:44.000 I get it. 0.97

01:13:45.000 I hear from a lot of people saying, like he says, nasty things.

01:13:47.000 They wish he didn't.

01:13:48.000 But I really, really do feel in my heart of hearts, if Trump was president right now, East Palestine would have been taken care of in an instant.

01:13:55.000 He'd be watching Tucker Carlson.

01:13:57.000 Tucker would be like, a major disaster happened.

01:13:58.000 And Trump would be like, I do not want people mad at me about this.

01:14:02.000 I'm getting on a plane first thing.

01:14:04.000 Get the job done.

01:14:04.000 There'd be no war in Ukraine.

01:14:06.000 He'd be like, that has nothing to do with us, don't know, don't care.

01:14:09.000 When we had the, with the Maidan protest 2024, we had military built up, we had Crimea, Trump gets elected, everything stops.

01:14:16.000 Either because Putin was not concerned or he was scared.

01:14:19.000 I'll take either one.

01:14:21.000 I think if Rogan said, look man, Joe Biden is not a good guy.

01:14:27.000 And if the choice is Joe Biden, who has a history of corruption and a Donald Trump who is, yeah, you know, Take Trump.

01:14:35.000 And what did Joe Rogan say recently when he was asked, what do you say to people who are upset about the lockdowns?

01:14:41.000 And he goes, vote Republican.

01:14:43.000 He starts laughing, he goes, no, but seriously, that's people they already are.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, imagine if Joe had that attitude in 2020 in the run up to the election, and he told everybody, guys, Biden is not gonna help you on this one.

01:14:54.000 Trump may be far from perfect, but Joe, I understand, he's not a culture warrior.

01:14:58.000 So it's unfortunate that There's that opportunity for influence that would have left us all better off.

01:15:05.000 Maybe.

01:15:06.000 Trump started the lockdowns.

01:15:07.000 He could have Albert Bourla as his VP, the CEO of Pfizer.

01:15:11.000 What's that guy's name?

01:15:13.000 That's a bit out there.

01:15:14.000 Yeah, I know.

01:15:14.000 But it's like he gave the keys to Pfizer and Fauci.

01:15:17.000 Like Donald Trump totally failed as a president in that respect.

01:15:20.000 In terms of not firing Fauci and not firing... Not maintaining liberty and freedom across the land.

01:15:26.000 Well, I think the thing you misunderstand, Ian, is the President doesn't have the authority to supersede the states that way.

01:15:31.000 I meant the Tenth Amendment?

01:15:32.000 Tenth.

01:15:33.000 And there are some things he could do.

01:15:36.000 He could, you know, lead civil action.

01:15:39.000 He could pull funding.

01:15:41.000 He could do a lot of stuff, and he could pressure them in a lot of ways.

01:15:43.000 And he should have.

01:15:44.000 But Look, man, you can complain about Donald Trump all day and night, but there is still no question that if Trump was in office, we'd be better off.

01:15:53.000 I'll say I'm happy to have a conversation with Donald Trump, and I want to work with him if he's really serious about this, because I know Steve Bannon.

01:16:01.000 I know I know people that run with Donald.

01:16:03.000 Like, God, who else have we had on the show?

01:16:06.000 We've had.

01:16:08.000 What's his name?

01:16:09.000 God, I love you.

01:16:10.000 I don't even remember your name.

01:16:11.000 Anyway... But you love him!

01:16:12.000 People I know and... What does the person do?

01:16:14.000 We'll get his name.

01:16:17.000 We've had all... Like his cabinet has been on.

01:16:19.000 We have... What's his name?

01:16:21.000 This guy reminds me of my dad.

01:16:23.000 I don't know his name.

01:16:24.000 Whatever.

01:16:24.000 Anyway, people that I like.

01:16:26.000 Peter... Peter Navarro.

01:16:27.000 Yeah, that's who I was trying to think of.

01:16:28.000 Navarro.

01:16:29.000 What's up, Pete?

01:16:32.000 So I'm open to a conversation, but I am so blackpilled.

01:16:37.000 Is blackpill like nihilism, like I want to see it fall, or is blackpill like I have no hope?

01:16:42.000 I have no hope right now.

01:16:43.000 So it's that kind of blackpill.

01:16:46.000 I don't want to destroy it.

01:16:48.000 I just see no path to salvation.

01:16:51.000 Oh, there's a path.

01:16:51.000 This is why I don't like necessarily saying black pill.

01:16:53.000 Black pill implies for a lot of people that there's no path forward.

01:16:56.000 There is.

01:16:57.000 It's just we gotta walk through the dark forest, right?

01:16:59.000 It's like you're walking down a path and then all of a sudden there's a bunch of creepy looking trees and creepy eyes and everything around you and you're like, okay, well this is gonna suck, but we have to do it.

01:17:08.000 And then eventually we'll come out on the other side and there will be, you know, spring flowers and beautiful, beautiful trees and flowing fields or rolling hills or whatever.

01:17:17.000 But it's like the forest.

01:17:18.000 The forest, man.

01:17:19.000 No human has ever successfully come out on the other end of this forest.

01:17:22.000 Okay, well, that's where we have to go.

01:17:23.000 But that's what it feels like, is like, no, people don't make it out of that forest, but that's the one you have to walk through.

01:17:28.000 That's Blackville. 0.94

01:17:29.000 And that's why I disagree with.

01:17:31.000 Every crisis humanity has ever faced, we have succeeded.

01:17:35.000 But, I mean, you've got to define succeeded like one side won and killed all the other ones.

01:17:40.000 So you could say we succeeded, but at what cost?

01:17:43.000 Like, are we going to wipe everything out and start again with a new language and a new religion? 0.99

01:17:47.000 Because that's not success in my opinion. 0.70

01:17:49.000 This is black billed.

01:17:51.000 I take a look at where humanity is right now with all the good things we have and all the bad things we've done away with and I'm like, wow, humanity has overcome every challenge set before it.

01:18:02.000 And I am confident we will again.

01:18:04.000 The night is always darkest before the dawn, and we may be entering one of the darkest nights we've faced in a long time, but if history can teach us anything, it's that we will triumph and succeed.

01:18:14.000 Unfortunately for all of us, the weak men will be leading us into very dark times for which we will have to struggle through, and we don't get the luxurious period like, you know, the past couple generations.

01:18:27.000 We're gonna have to really fight hard for this one.

01:18:29.000 But it'll be worth it.

01:18:30.000 And I'm confident, in the end, we absolutely will succeed.

01:18:33.000 You know why?

01:18:34.000 Math.

01:18:35.000 Statistics.

01:18:36.000 Probability.

01:18:37.000 There, in every single circumstance in human history, we have pulled through.

01:18:42.000 I'm confident.

01:18:43.000 I don't think that we are the one time in human history where humans just, boop, cease to exist.

01:18:49.000 No, I don't think so.

01:18:50.000 And not to mention, now we have unprecedented technology to enable us to do that independently, like, and build sort of a side civilization, regardless of what anybody wants.

01:19:01.000 So it's not really up for debate anymore.

01:19:03.000 There's a whole new system that's being built.

01:19:06.000 But look at Atlantis.

01:19:07.000 You could say that it's never... I mean, that completely almost... Earth was like completely reset almost.

01:19:13.000 They don't even have... But like, we don't even know that Atlantis is real.

01:19:15.000 Exactly.

01:19:15.000 We don't even have evidence that it was real.

01:19:18.000 And it might not.

01:19:18.000 We have like a storybook.

01:19:20.000 Probably isn't.

01:19:21.000 Well, it probably is.

01:19:22.000 Did you see the Rishat structure?

01:19:24.000 Yeah, of course.

01:19:25.000 And it's the same dimensions as what Plato said it was.

01:19:27.000 So, I mean, that's the capital of Atlantis.

01:19:29.000 Bro, one city ceasing to exist is not an apocalypse.

01:19:32.000 No, it was an entire global empire.

01:19:34.000 That was the capital.

01:19:34.000 Okay, come on, dude.

01:19:35.000 I mean, regardless, Ian, like, we still have to do what we can.

01:19:39.000 I mean, it's like, kind of... What's the point?

01:19:41.000 Like, okay, everything can get decimated, but we still just do what we can.

01:19:45.000 Where did the- I mean, we're here, right?

01:19:47.000 So obviously something survived.

01:19:48.000 If Atlantis got completely wiped out and we're here, what happened in between?

01:19:53.000 The two things that got hit the hardest was North America and Syria.

01:19:57.000 Everything else, some other things survived, like East Asia.

01:19:59.000 Right, right, right.

01:20:01.000 So, humanity did continue on even if we did lose those two things.

01:20:04.000 I think that in times of Yes, some things will change and some things will not be sustained, but I don't think it's just like, oh, it's all over.

01:20:14.000 I mean, I think you see, you were talking about this earlier, you see evolution shift over time.

01:20:18.000 As some things are starting to fall apart, they're already being replaced by structures that exist.

01:20:23.000 It's not like we go through a period where everything falls apart, there's nothing, and then we start again.

01:20:27.000 That's not the timeline of humanity.

01:20:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:30.000 Like, there will never be a time when you're completely just alone in the world.

01:20:34.000 There will always be something there.

01:20:35.000 Bro, outside of, let's, hypothetically, Atlantis was real and it fell apart.

01:20:39.000 So did the Roman Empire.

01:20:41.000 And then bad things happened, and then humanity fought through them, figured it out.

01:20:46.000 Bad things happen, and then we eventually get rid of those bad things, we build better systems, we retain the good, we get rid of the bad.

01:20:52.000 Maybe.

01:20:52.000 No, we literally every single time have done so.

01:20:54.000 I don't know if all the good was retained from that.

01:20:56.000 I didn't say all the good.

01:20:57.000 But we get rid of the bad as a tendency towards good and removal of bad.

01:21:01.000 You can look through history and it has always been that way.

01:21:05.000 Ian, I nominate you to lead the excavation of the Rishat structure and find the secret time capsule that exists underneath it so that we can find the secrets.

01:21:16.000 But why hasn't anybody done that?

01:21:17.000 Because the Mauritanian government is super secretive and protective of it.

01:21:20.000 It's very weird.

01:21:22.000 Because the Illuminati is underground accessing ancient Atlantean technology.

01:21:27.000 Most likely.

01:21:28.000 They control the world with ultra-powerful AI.

01:21:32.000 Oh, now let's talk about AI.

01:21:33.000 The black pill gets darker.

01:21:35.000 I agree with you there.

01:21:36.000 AI is so blackfilling to me.

01:21:38.000 It's so creepy.

01:21:39.000 It's so bizarre.

01:21:40.000 Bill, you told me about a couple open ones.

01:21:41.000 One called Open Assistant and the other one Lion, L-A-I-O-N. 0.98

01:21:44.000 Well, they're the same.

01:21:46.000 Oh.

01:21:46.000 Yeah.

01:21:46.000 Can you explain those?

01:21:49.000 Let's do this.

01:21:50.000 I want to launch this topic on AI with this segment.

01:21:53.000 We have this tweet from Deplorable for Trump 2024, saying Biden was caught on a damning hot mic in Poland after commenting on three UFOs shot down, saying, you think any of these guys bought that bullish?

01:22:06.000 Hey, totally.

01:22:06.000 They'll buy anything.

01:22:07.000 Let's get out of here.

01:22:08.000 Let's let me let me play the audio for you.

01:22:10.000 Let's here you go.

01:22:11.000 Scientific research.

01:22:12.000 Why have you chosen Poland?

01:22:14.000 Thank you President Schumer, Mr. President. 0.99

01:22:16.000 Thank you everybody, is that bullshit? 0.98

01:22:19.000 No, absolutely not. 0.99

01:22:21.000 Yeah, this guy's a weirdo. 0.81

01:22:24.000 Let's get out of here.

01:22:25.000 He said, yeah, those guys will believe anything.

01:22:27.000 Is that a hundred percent true?

01:22:30.000 So the Twitter says it's a deepfake.

01:22:33.000 I think obviously it's a deepfake.

01:22:35.000 The problem is you can't prove a negative.

01:22:38.000 I don't know where this video came from.

01:22:40.000 Someone posted it on Twitter.

01:22:42.000 People are saying it's fake and it's like, well, you can say it's fake, but how do you prove a negative?

01:22:49.000 You would think that there would be some kind of signature detection that you could run on an actual deep fake piece of media that would be able to detect it.

01:22:59.000 Except you could auto-generate fake voices and video and then recompress or render it so that it smooths all those things out.

01:23:10.000 That's why it's probably so blurry.

01:23:12.000 They were trying to make it look like it's a recording of a recording so you can't see the blemishes.

01:23:17.000 I think it's obviously fake.

01:23:18.000 fake. Apparently PJ media rented as a real story.

01:23:20.000 Well, that's what I was gonna say. It's obviously fake because Biden is not slurring that when

01:23:25.000 his voice takes it again. I know that sounds ridiculous. 0.96

01:23:28.000 But if you listen to Biden, he is muffled in his speech. Whenever you see here an AI

01:23:32.000 generated recreation of his voice, it's much clearer probably because it's taking audio from

01:23:36.000 now a long time ago. But the fact that then somebody is going to pick up the story and say,

01:23:40.000 well, this is going to get that Biden says, oh, they'll believe anything. And then

01:23:44.000 another media outlet picks it up but another one picks it out, another one picks it up.

01:23:47.000 Exactly.

01:23:48.000 That's how they make it true.

01:23:49.000 Now, you heard that one, but this one's even more damning.

01:23:52.000 Wait till you hear this deepfake leaked audio from Andrew at Don't Walk Run Productions.

01:24:00.000 Listen to this.

01:24:00.000 Thank you, Poland.

01:24:02.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you for what you're doing.

01:24:05.000 God bless you all.

01:24:06.000 Listen to this hot mic moment from Biden.

01:24:12.000 Finally, the children I was promised.

01:24:16.000 Give me our lifeblood.

01:24:21.000 Wow, can you believe Joe Biden said that?

01:24:24.000 No, I think Andrew is just making fun of the fact that people believed that that clip was real.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, I mean, the problem is that everyone's going to have the ability to sort of deny things that they really said and claim that it's deepfake.

01:24:39.000 I mean, here's the crazy thing.

01:24:42.000 How can you use a recording in a court of law?

01:24:44.000 A judge is not an expert and doesn't care.

01:24:48.000 I will tell you this right now.

01:24:51.000 We are entering territory where, oh, you want to talk about murders?

01:24:55.000 You want to talk about criminal cases?

01:24:56.000 Fine.

01:24:57.000 There's going to be a really difficult constitutional question.

01:24:59.000 We saw with Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:25:00.000 When they were flying the drone footage, they're like, look at this video.

01:25:03.000 And then the defense had to argue, like, that's not a real image.

01:25:06.000 An algorithm is creating the image when you zoom in.

01:25:09.000 That image doesn't exist.

01:25:11.000 And they're like, what does that mean?

01:25:12.000 We don't know what that means.

01:25:13.000 Now, that's a criminal case.

01:25:16.000 And there's gonna be challenges brought up, but even then, it's hard.

01:25:19.000 Hard to say that's not real.

01:25:21.000 And you gotta get an expert in, and then they'll argue the expert's lying.

01:25:24.000 In a civil case, it won't even get that far.

01:25:26.000 In a civil case, you'll go to a judge and say, here's a video of Ian admitting he owes me money.

01:25:30.000 And the judge is gonna go, okay, Ian, pay him.

01:25:32.000 And you're gonna be like, that's a fake video.

01:25:34.000 Get out of here.

01:25:35.000 It's not a fake video.

01:25:36.000 Look, what are you gonna do?

01:25:37.000 How do you prove it's not real?

01:25:39.000 I tell you this right now, when it comes to civil cases, judge is outright gonna be like, I don't know, I saw a video.

01:25:45.000 And you're going to beg and be like, that is not real.

01:25:48.000 Well, and instead of being presumed innocent, right, the person who's being accused is going to have to bring in a bunch of experts to be like, this is where you can see possibly whatever, if they even can.

01:25:57.000 And so it becomes a very difficult system.

01:26:00.000 It becomes faster to just set out of court, especially in a civil case.

01:26:03.000 And then you're going to get cases where someone's going to actually say something.

01:26:08.000 And then their lawyer's gonna be like, you're in trouble, you said this on recording.

01:26:12.000 Let's find a forensic expert who will testify it's a deepfake.

01:26:16.000 They go to the first forensic guy and he goes, that's a real recording.

01:26:18.000 They go to the next guy, that's a real recording.

01:26:20.000 They go to 20 guys and they all say, that's a real recording.

01:26:22.000 Finally they find one guy who says, how much are you paying me to go and testify?

01:26:27.000 We'll pay you $5,000.

01:26:27.000 Oh yeah, oh that's totally a deepfake.

01:26:32.000 Can I have my money now?

01:26:33.000 Yeah, well after you go to court, okay.

01:26:35.000 Then he's gonna show up and he's just gonna say it.

01:26:36.000 He's gonna say, yeah, here's why it's a deepfake.

01:26:38.000 Here's why I think.

01:26:38.000 Can I get paid now?

01:26:40.000 And then the court's gonna have to be like, well, I don't know.

01:26:42.000 Is it a deepfake or not?

01:26:44.000 Is there any precedent so far with that actually happening?

01:26:51.000 I have heard stories where there's been nothing substantive.

01:26:57.000 There's just scuttlebutt murmuring because the deepfake stuff is new.

01:27:01.000 But, you know, let me just say I've heard stories.

01:27:05.000 So you think where it's going is that media admissibility as evidence is going to kind of go out the window?

01:27:12.000 Do you, like, is it, is it even, is it, are we just gonna go back in time?

01:27:15.000 Where it's all, like, it's so pervasive that it becomes not even admissible.

01:27:22.000 Deepfake technology is going to get so good that video evidence and audio evidence will probably become inadmissible in my opinion.

01:27:29.000 You'll go to Cornell Beck, here's a video of the guy, of the murderer stabbing someone, and he'll go, that's not real, that was AI generated.

01:27:36.000 And an expert's gonna come in and say, please, to the jury, please, this is clearly a fake video, watch.

01:27:42.000 And then there will be like an artifact or something in the video and I'll say, see that blemish?

01:27:47.000 I have been doing this work for 20 years.

01:27:48.000 I am telling you that is not real.

01:27:50.000 They are tricking you.

01:27:51.000 This man is innocent.

01:27:52.000 It's going to be reasonable doubt.

01:27:55.000 The fact remains that if the technology exists, reasonable doubt exists.

01:27:59.000 And the lawyer is going to be like, you heard from a forensic specialist.

01:28:02.000 This video was doctored.

01:28:04.000 It is a deep fake video.

01:28:05.000 They're going to have to come in and be like, where was the video file generated?

01:28:10.000 And they're gonna have to bring in the computer, they're gonna have to show deep forensic stuff.

01:28:14.000 So expensive.

01:28:15.000 And then even then, you can still have a forensic expert say, I know they're showing you this stuff, but they are wrong!

01:28:22.000 And then it's reasonable doubt.

01:28:23.000 You could have a network of cameras that are all taking an image of something that, upon review, you'd see the angles of all the cameras, where they're located, where the action is happening, the guy's body as he's punching the woman on the ground or whatever.

01:28:35.000 Because police body cams are gonna be like, nope, deepfake, can't use it.

01:28:39.000 Home security cameras, nope, deepfake, can't use it.

01:28:41.000 But if you have eight security cameras all trying, or all angulating at one thing, and you can verify that each one verifies all the other ones, you would have to either argue the entire network has been deepfaked, Or you have to accept it as admissible.

01:28:53.000 You can easily deepfake any camera angles.

01:28:55.000 If they were off-network, if they were unrelated cameras that weren't on a similar network, you'd have to prove each of them was fake.

01:29:03.000 When we play video games, we have created a 3D environment of the character walking around.

01:29:09.000 You can set vantage points in 50 different locations, And then you can, in Skater XL, you can do a kickflip, stop time, and then spin the camera all around him.

01:29:21.000 If I wanted to, I can play it front to back 50 times from 50 different angles and be like, look, I have 50 different cameras showing all the same thing.

01:29:29.000 It's a real video.

01:29:30.000 So should we take steps to restrict AI?

01:29:32.000 I mean, should we take steps to... You can't.

01:29:34.000 It's like trying to ban guns.

01:29:35.000 Three-pointed guns exist.

01:29:36.000 Nothing you can do about it.

01:29:38.000 Apparently, Facebook and Google have been intentionally holding back a lot of the text-to-video prompts technology because of how disruptive it is.

01:29:49.000 Have you seen the text-to-video AI being advertised?

01:29:54.000 A little bit.

01:29:55.000 It's crazy, man.

01:29:56.000 You type in, video walking down a dark path through a forest at night, and it makes a video, right?

01:29:56.000 It's crazy.

01:30:03.000 It doesn't do people as well.

01:30:04.000 Well, that we've seen.

01:30:07.000 Give it three years.

01:30:09.000 It'll do a full feature film in perfect quality based on your prompt.

01:30:15.000 Yeah.

01:30:15.000 That's crazy.

01:30:16.000 I mean, what's the benefit?

01:30:18.000 Because to me, this sounds horrible and it's gonna make everyone's lives worse, but if you like this kind of technology, what's your argument for it?

01:30:26.000 I mean, as an artistic tool, it's undeniably powerful.

01:30:30.000 Because you're not creating anything yourself, it's creating it for you.

01:30:30.000 Why?

01:30:33.000 That seems like it would take away the artistry.

01:30:36.000 It does somewhat.

01:30:37.000 I mean, there's a whole AI debate.

01:30:40.000 I think that there's absolutely value to fully human-produced media, and that is always going to have a market.

01:30:46.000 That's probably always going to be the most valuable.

01:30:49.000 But in terms of what people watch or what is most stimulating and interesting, we don't know.

01:30:56.000 Because it's not purely computer-generated.

01:31:00.000 I mean, what is powering the AI?

01:31:02.000 Human media.

01:31:03.000 So it is a tool, but some people think that it's disempowering creators.

01:31:11.000 And it will do that, but it will also empower creators.

01:31:14.000 So it's very nuanced.

01:31:16.000 What do you see the benefits of this kind of AI?

01:31:20.000 I mean, it's kind of like asking, what is the benefit of a search engine?

01:31:26.000 I mean, you know, we know the benefit of a search engine.

01:31:28.000 It changed the world.

01:31:30.000 We can look up whatever we want to at any moment.

01:31:33.000 And that's kind of what it is enabling, you know, we're seeing with ChatGPT and others, but that's heavily censored and ideological.

01:31:41.000 So what would be the benefit of, like, Deep faking someone's voice like what what does that technology?

01:31:46.000 Allow us to do because to me it only seems like it can be used for malicious purposes No, I mean for comedy for art like there's definitely use what's his name Kyle Dunn again?

01:31:57.000 He does he does the funniest it's like it's very bad quality deep fake stuff of Joe Biden.

01:32:04.000 Oh Yeah, not of Joe Biden, but of everybody.

01:32:09.000 And it's so funny.

01:32:13.000 But I think part of why it's funny is because the deepfakes are bad. 1.00

01:32:17.000 So them getting better would actually make that worse?

01:32:20.000 I can't say.

01:32:20.000 I don't know.

01:32:21.000 Do you see the one I tweeted?

01:32:23.000 The me with Crowder and Ben Shapiro deepfake?

01:32:27.000 It's intentionally bad and weird and creepy, but it's really funny.

01:32:31.000 Yeah.

01:32:32.000 But that's like, because it's money, we should allow it?

01:32:35.000 You can't not allow it.

01:32:37.000 There's no way to stop it.

01:32:39.000 It's like people say, oh, it's too dangerous, we should censor it.

01:32:43.000 You cannot.

01:32:45.000 And then enforcement of it becomes impossible.

01:32:49.000 So how do you handle it then, is my question.

01:32:52.000 What do you do now that you've opened this box and you are saying it's funny?

01:32:57.000 I think that people need to be compensated for it.

01:32:59.000 Because what you have now are these sort of megalithic, centralized companies.

01:33:05.000 Microsoft just invested $10 billion in OpenAI and GPT is getting implemented into Bing.

01:33:12.000 Google is rolling out Bard, which is kind of based on Lambda, which is their competitor

01:33:18.000 to that.

01:33:19.000 But both of those systems are completely corrupt.

01:33:21.000 And so, you know, you even saw Elon tweet the other day, we need truth GPT, which is

01:33:25.000 like the uncensored version, which is going to be probably based on something like Lion,

01:33:30.000 which is run by Stability, who runs stable diffusion.

01:33:33.000 And stable diffusion is like sort of the open source alternative to DALI, which is open

01:33:39.000 eyes, you know, text to image, but any case like we need the full, like we just need the

01:33:45.000 fully open version that has to exist.

01:33:48.000 If that doesn't exist, then, you know, people are going to be disempowered.

01:33:52.000 But we also need to get Google and open AI realistic.

01:33:56.000 I think they should be rev sharing with everybody whose data they're using.

01:34:00.000 And that's so so at least there is some benefit to the creators who they're exploiting.

01:34:06.000 I don't know.

01:34:07.000 I don't see what other option there is.

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01:34:19.000 Actually, we're gonna do it live, right?

01:34:22.000 Uh, yeah, the plan is to do it live on the website, uh, specifically, but we'll see how that goes.

01:34:26.000 We are going to try to do the member segment as a live stream, which means as soon as we wrap up tonight around 10, we're going to then go to the website, load up a live stream, and, uh, I guess you guys have tested it out, it works already, or what?

01:34:40.000 Uh, yeah.

01:34:41.000 Is there a chat in it and everything?

01:34:42.000 According to what we know, there's a chat.

01:34:42.000 Yeah.

01:34:45.000 It's, uh, from what we, from what I understand, whatever I've seen on Rumble, there's a chat just like YouTube.

01:34:49.000 I don't know if there's like members only.

01:34:51.000 I think that's the only thing we have to figure out, but there is a chat.

01:34:54.000 Yeah.

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01:34:57.000 It can only be viewed on TimCast.com if you're logged in.

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01:35:41.000 I'm not your buddy guy says, so this is how it ends.

01:35:43.000 With delusional people patting themselves on the back for being virtuous in their signaling, wokeness is the devil.

01:35:50.000 Well, you know, it's the wedding I can't stand, I guess.

01:35:54.000 If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

01:35:56.000 I like that movie, The Book of Eli.

01:35:57.000 You guys ever watch that movie?

01:35:58.000 No.

01:35:59.000 You've never?

01:36:00.000 No, I've seen it.

01:36:00.000 You've seen it?

01:36:01.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 How have you not seen it?

01:36:03.000 How have I not seen it?

01:36:04.000 I've never seen anything.

01:36:05.000 You gotta see it.

01:36:06.000 Okay, I'm not, I'll- It's basically, the world, it's post-apocalyptic, and there's a bad guy, and he desperately wants the Bible.

01:36:14.000 And he basically says that it's a book that gives you the power to control people.

01:36:20.000 Mm, that's interesting.

01:36:21.000 And it's really great.

01:36:23.000 I mean, it's not like the best movie in the world or anything.

01:36:24.000 But the concept is really interesting.

01:36:26.000 Yeah, it's good.

01:36:27.000 And I think, was it Denzel?

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:29.000 I don't want to spoil the movie, but the ending is just, it's pretty awesome.

01:36:33.000 So you guys should definitely see it.

01:36:34.000 But it's, I dig it, I dig it.

01:36:37.000 All right, let's see.

01:36:38.000 Grofty says, any chickens seen the monologue yet?

01:36:42.000 Buck, buck, buck.

01:36:43.000 Seen the monologue?

01:36:44.000 Not sure.

01:36:46.000 I don't know, but we really got to do that Cast Castle Yellowstone parody where we're chicken ranchers and they're trying to come and take our land, you know. 0.74

01:36:54.000 Babyleg Bennett says, yo, saw your episode earlier.

01:36:57.000 If you're looking for a new place to set up a shop, Western Kansas is it.

01:37:00.000 No nuke targets here and land is fairly cheap.

01:37:02.000 Please come to Kansas.

01:37:03.000 Yeah, you know, when we were looking to set this place up, we actually looked at Montana.

01:37:08.000 I would love to live there.

01:37:10.000 And this is well before watching Yellowstone, of course.

01:37:12.000 But the show is correct.

01:37:13.000 It is a playground for rich people.

01:37:15.000 And so it's like... Wyoming is probably better.

01:37:19.000 But it still has infrastructure challenges.

01:37:22.000 I drove through Wyoming.

01:37:23.000 No cell phones.

01:37:24.000 I saw Jackson in The Last of Us.

01:37:27.000 That town that they... That's Jackson in Wyoming.

01:37:30.000 Oh, really?

01:37:31.000 It's the actual city?

01:37:32.000 I think so, yeah.

01:37:33.000 Wyoming's cool.

01:37:34.000 I went there.

01:37:35.000 I have a story about how we couldn't find gas and we were driving for like 200 miles.

01:37:37.000 We're like, we're gonna run out of gas.

01:37:39.000 And then all of a sudden my friend was like, there look.

01:37:41.000 And there was like a shack on the side of the road.

01:37:42.000 And there was what looked like weird rectangles.

01:37:45.000 We're like, those are gas pumps.

01:37:47.000 Oh man.

01:37:48.000 We pulled over and it was like this little dude with his dog in a shack and he sold,

01:37:52.000 it was like a grocery store.

01:37:53.000 And then I was like, wow.

01:37:55.000 There was no signs.

01:37:56.000 If we didn't get gas there, we were gonna break down.

01:37:59.000 It was crazy.

01:37:59.000 We drove a long time with no... And then the best part was when the road was completely covered in ice, and there's no one around for hundreds of miles, and I'm driving a Honda Civic Hybrid on just sheets of ice, and I'm like, the car's sliding a little bit, and I'm like, oh, well, you know, we're gonna crash, and then no one will find us for weeks.

01:38:17.000 That was totally fun.

01:38:19.000 All right.

01:38:19.000 Waffle Sensei says, Tim says Raymond and Hydro are going to be on his Friday show.

01:38:23.000 Bro, Raymond and Hydro are going to be co-hosts on my show, dawg.

01:38:26.000 Stop trying to steal my top talent, man.

01:38:28.000 Oh yeah, and Waffles.

01:38:29.000 We should get Waffles, Raymond, and Hydro all to come on the new Friday morning show.

01:38:33.000 That's wild.

01:38:35.000 Yeah.

01:38:35.000 Think about all of you guys at the same time.

01:38:37.000 That'd be insane.

01:38:38.000 Adrian Curry says, Montana doesn't want these people.

01:38:41.000 Well, according to the show Yellowstone, that is correct.

01:38:44.000 They don't want these people.

01:38:46.000 I, I, dude, he's, he, John Dunn's Trump.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:38:50.000 Like, he gets in and he's, and he's like, I want to cancel the lease on the airport.

01:38:53.000 And his son's like, you can't.

01:38:55.000 They'll sue you.

01:38:55.000 Don't care, just do it.

01:38:57.000 And then he just does it.

01:38:58.000 He's like, I will.

01:38:58.000 And they're like, you can't.

01:39:00.000 I'm telling you, the, the, I am the wall that progress, like, pounds against is the best speech.

01:39:05.000 If you haven't seen Nelson, you should find a way to watch that speech.

01:39:07.000 He's like, they want to come here and turn our land into cities and malls.

01:39:12.000 They call that progress.

01:39:13.000 It's like, well, I am the wall that progress slams against.

01:39:16.000 It's great.

01:39:17.000 I mean, and then he's like, we're going to raise taxes on people who have vacation homes here.

01:39:22.000 Double the taxes on non-residents?

01:39:23.000 He is protective of the people of Montana, not the people who vacation in Montana.

01:39:27.000 He's like Trump.

01:39:28.000 Exactly.

01:39:28.000 That's a great sentiment.

01:39:30.000 Yep.

01:39:31.000 Maybe like Bennett says, I say you start a charity membership, 10 bucks a month, and we vote as a group monthly on who to donate to, and I motion for the first donation to go to East Palestine since the Feds won't help.

01:39:42.000 You know, that's a really good idea.

01:39:44.000 What if we set up a non-profit?

01:39:47.000 That did a like vote based foundation thing.

01:39:51.000 So it's like everybody gets to send in money and then submit where they want the money for this month to go.

01:39:58.000 Like a DAO?

01:39:59.000 And then what we do is we go through every submission and we just simple script takes every suggestion and then runs it like a basic vote.

01:40:09.000 So if one person says, I want the money, well, one vote out of 100,000 ain't getting you anything.

01:40:15.000 Sorry, you lost.

01:40:16.000 Your vote didn't work.

01:40:17.000 But for some reason, 3,796 all said East Palestine.

01:40:21.000 The algorithm just pulls it and gives us a chart of all of the top requests.

01:40:24.000 And then we say, hey, the number one requested, you know, But if it was like $1,000, $10,000 ones and one guy puts $10,000 in, would his vote count as much as the $1,000, $10,000?

01:40:31.000 All of the funds that went in today will be donated to the people of the city.

01:40:34.000 That'd be a cool idea.

01:40:35.000 Yeah.

01:40:36.000 But if it was like a thousand $10 ones and one guy puts $10,000 in, would his vote count

01:40:41.000 as much as the thousand $10?

01:40:43.000 One vote.

01:40:44.000 So then you get people splitting their donations into as many as possible or getting people

01:40:47.000 to donate for them.

01:40:50.000 Watch out for for that.

01:40:51.000 We then we do a $10 limit.

01:40:54.000 Every $10 is one vote.

01:40:56.000 You want it.

01:40:57.000 You want to vote 100.

01:40:58.000 You want to vote 10 times and you put it $100.

01:40:59.000 Okay.

01:41:00.000 And then we have decentralized autonomous organizations, the Dow, D A O. Those are like,

01:41:04.000 can you explain how that would, cause you nodded.

01:41:06.000 Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing.

01:41:07.000 Just using smart contracts.

01:41:09.000 as what you're saying, but you could do it manually through a non-profit.

01:41:12.000 Over in the members chat, Noah Sanders says, non-profit, we'll have that in about three years, just like the fact-checking non-profit, Tim Cass.

01:41:19.000 Yeah, really?

01:41:20.000 You are correct, it exists, but the problem is, in order to accept donations, you have to register in each state that would accept donations.

01:41:28.000 There's a bunch of stuff we're dealing with, but yo, non-profits are hard to do.

01:41:34.000 They're hard to do.

01:41:35.000 James O'Keefe, He did the right thing.

01:41:38.000 He wanted to do right by people, so he made a non-profit.

01:41:42.000 And you see what happens.

01:41:46.000 They boot him out.

01:41:48.000 If Project Veritas was founded by James as a sole member LLC, he would never have to deal with any of this.

01:41:54.000 But it wouldn't be tax deductible.

01:41:56.000 True.

01:41:56.000 He'd make more money too.

01:41:59.000 Alright, let's see.

01:42:01.000 Max Reddick says, Tim, people like Sam Seder will take that clip of you saying you are tired of nuke threats.

01:42:06.000 Just do it already, even though you are kidding.

01:42:09.000 You watch, it will happen.

01:42:09.000 I know it will.

01:42:11.000 There are some conservative commentators that intentionally produce content they know the left will make fun of, because it gets them in the algorithm and makes them famous.

01:42:20.000 One of the most beneficial things to any commentator is if everyone's talking about you.

01:42:24.000 So if you can get, like, Hassan, for instance, to talk about you ten times, then the left and the right are talking about you.

01:42:30.000 YouTube says, this is something people like, show it to everybody.

01:42:33.000 As Jimmy Dore said, a broad appeal, but not the way he intended it.

01:42:38.000 But so, you know, you just got to say something that's easily baitable, like,

01:42:44.000 I want Vladimir Putin to nuke Ukraine already. Just be done with it, you know? 0.75

01:42:51.000 Ukraine should be nuked and if you said something like that, you know, they could take that clip out of context and then

01:42:57.000 tell everybody that you know, Tim pool called for Nuking ukraine and it doesn't matter what the context is

01:43:04.000 like for example if someone were to say something like We must nuke ukraine

01:43:10.000 Vladimir Putin is the greatest president of all time.

01:43:10.000 Russia has to do it.

01:43:13.000 Everyone agrees, and anybody who says otherwise is lying, and Putin is obligated to nuke that country off the face of the earth.

01:43:19.000 If he said something like that, they would easily be able to clip that, and then accuse you of having said it.

01:43:23.000 And how would you react, or how will you react, when that starts?

01:43:27.000 When they do!

01:43:29.000 Yeah, we'll- like, no, but seriously, serious question.

01:43:31.000 They do it already!

01:43:32.000 No, I know, but when it becomes, like, so pervasive, will you just- It is!

01:43:34.000 Yeah, it is.

01:43:35.000 Yo, I did a video where I was like, you can't sexually harass women. 0.83

01:43:39.000 Like, if you walk up to a guy and you said this thing, the guy's not gonna care.

01:43:41.000 You walk up to him and say this thing, the woman's gonna be like, hey, don't do that. 1.00

01:43:44.000 Young Turks took that, and then said, Tim Pool wants to sexually harass women, and they removed the context.

01:43:50.000 So I've had people be like, do you hear what Dave Rubin said?

01:43:53.000 And I'm like, oh, what did Dave Rubin say?

01:43:54.000 Oh, he said this thing about that thing.

01:43:56.000 And I'm like, when did he say that?

01:43:57.000 Well, I saw it on Twitter.

01:43:58.000 And I'm like, dude, you could have someone be like, you know, Ian walked in the other day and he went to me and he goes, I do not like chocolate ice cream.

01:44:08.000 And then I was like, are you kidding me?

01:44:09.000 You really don't?

01:44:10.000 And he was like, nah, I'm just kidding. 1.00

01:44:11.000 I was like, ah, you crazy guy. 0.94

01:44:12.000 And they'll take that and claim that quote from a joke story is about you and you said it. 0.98

01:44:17.000 That's what they do.

01:44:19.000 It's, it's, it's.

01:44:20.000 So there you go.

01:44:21.000 So you don't, you don't care.

01:44:22.000 You should think it should be able to continue to exist.

01:44:24.000 It's free speech.

01:44:25.000 It's free speech.

01:44:25.000 Yeah.

01:44:26.000 And these people are just evil.

01:44:27.000 What do you do about it?

01:44:27.000 It's brutal, man.

01:44:30.000 It's one of the most demoralizing things about the internet is that you can see every day people like Sam Seder, the Young Turks, lying about the opinions of people on the show because it gets clicks for them.

01:44:41.000 Maybe we should build a tool where the person at hand in the content can at least Tag it or something to indicate that it's out of context or something, so that without taking it down, without violating free speech, there's still some sort of indication from the people involved.

01:45:00.000 Who would have the tag?

01:45:01.000 The creator of the video?

01:45:03.000 No, no, no, no.

01:45:05.000 The person that it's about would be able to... Or maybe anybody could tag it, and that's kind of... Here's what you do.

01:45:11.000 An extension.

01:45:12.000 that sources the original material.

01:45:14.000 So if someone has a video and they show a clip of me, the extension sees the video clip and then says, original source is this video.

01:45:21.000 Right.

01:45:22.000 Not easy to do, but I don't know how you navigate this stuff, man, to be honest.

01:45:25.000 The Young Turks, basically, that's what they do.

01:45:28.000 I don't know if Cenk basically retired and he's just like tired of actually being involved in politics, but this is the route they've gone.

01:45:34.000 They've gone the route of just say what the left wants to hear so they'll click on it, we can go to bed.

01:45:39.000 I feel that heat, man.

01:45:39.000 Maybe!

01:45:43.000 It'd be so much more fun as hell time to go live in a van down by the river, and then there's probably people like Jancor, like after 20 years of doing this.

01:45:52.000 I mean, the guy, they had, what did Jimmy Dore say?

01:45:54.000 They had upskirting shots on their website and stuff.

01:45:56.000 Now they're just saying whatever they think the left wants to hear, because it gets them just enough money so that he can, he's retired basically.

01:46:03.000 That's how I view it.

01:46:04.000 A lot of these people are like, yo, I'm ready to retire.

01:46:06.000 Can we automate this somehow and just make the money?

01:46:08.000 I'm done.

01:46:08.000 Right.

01:46:09.000 I mean, what's the point of having a nuanced take when, if you show an upskirt photo, you make just as much money, if not more, right?

01:46:16.000 I mean, there's no motivation in that.

01:46:17.000 You have to be ideologically motivated.

01:46:19.000 Posting fake news makes a lot of money for you, and the correction makes more.

01:46:22.000 The correction won't, you know, if you lie, you'll get a thousand dollars, and then the correction makes a hundred.

01:46:28.000 It's all money.

01:46:29.000 Anyway, they don't give the money back after they correct the record.

01:46:32.000 SirLoinTip says, to correct something that was asked last night, calories are absolutely in the food.

01:46:37.000 They are the potential energy found within the chemical bonds within the carbs, fats, and proteins in the food.

01:46:43.000 Well, there you go.

01:46:44.000 When I was in like 7th or 8th grade, we studied calories by burning peanuts and you time how long you do the math to calculate how many joules of energy.

01:46:52.000 Sorry science teachers, I'm not doing a great job.

01:46:54.000 But now I think, how could you burn peanuts?

01:46:56.000 Like that's crazy that we just burned peanuts because peanut allergies are so prevalent. 0.99

01:47:01.000 Jimbo says, I am disgusted by how ignorant and complacent we Americans have become. 0.97

01:47:06.000 It's 110% our fault as a populace for everything our government is doing. 0.99

01:47:10.000 per se, we know better, but low-info people, it's an enraging black pill.

01:47:10.000 Not U.S.

01:47:15.000 But, as I was saying earlier, that way of life, the ignorance, can't survive in the long run because it's not self-sustainable.

01:47:23.000 So after everything comes crashing down, those who do pay attention, do know, and do care, and have prepared, will take the reins and rebuild.

01:47:33.000 Alright, where are we at?

01:47:34.000 What do we got?

01:47:36.000 Timothy Rhodes says, Tim, what do you think about the idea of a divorce of city-states versus actual states, kind of like the Vatican City?

01:47:43.000 Let SF, Chicago, New York, Portland, Seattle become city-states.

01:47:45.000 No resources, sure, but not our problem.

01:47:47.000 Agreed.

01:47:48.000 But why would anyone give up their slaves?

01:47:51.000 If they've got rural farmers paying taxes to their cities, why would they let them go?

01:47:56.000 Wandering Mage says, if we join the war there will be a draft and Democrats will dodge it and take over while everyone else is at war.

01:48:03.000 A brutal trench war since drones rendered tanks obsolete.

01:48:06.000 I think draft equals civil war.

01:48:09.000 I was reading about the formation of West Virginia and you want to know something funny?

01:48:13.000 How West Virginia became a state?

01:48:15.000 One of the reasons is that they held a vote when the young men went to go fight in the Confederate Army.

01:48:22.000 So you have a region of Virginia, They take all their young men and say, go join and go fight for the Confederates, because you're Virginia.

01:48:30.000 It was just Virginia.

01:48:31.000 Then, once the pro-Confederate side are fighting, all that's left in the city are the anti-war, unwilling to fight, don't want civil war, and they all vote.

01:48:42.000 Well, of course, then, they vote to stay in the Union.

01:48:44.000 Isn't that funny how that works?

01:48:46.000 Shatters the state.

01:48:47.000 It's not completely why it happened, but that's a component.

01:48:50.000 And there was a lawsuit where after the Civil War ended, Virginia said, hey, they voted while the young voting population were, half of them were gone.

01:48:58.000 That's not a legitimate vote.

01:48:59.000 And Supreme Court's like, yeah, it is.

01:49:00.000 F you.

01:49:01.000 West Virginia exists. 1.00

01:49:02.000 And that's a good thing because, you know, West Virginia is best Virginia and regular Virginia sucks. 1.00

01:49:07.000 And it's like woke garbage. 1.00

01:49:09.000 All right. 0.98

01:49:11.000 Where are we at?

01:49:13.000 Hopsitup says, 20 bucks for a fired up Ian on train tracks.

01:49:17.000 Keep up the good work, Timcast.

01:49:18.000 Really do appreciate it.

01:49:19.000 Thank you so much for the support.

01:49:21.000 Amtru13 says, James O'Keefe for president.

01:49:24.000 Well, okay then, for president indeed.

01:49:27.000 Mohammed says, I lost a country once. 0.95

01:49:29.000 I made America my new home.

01:49:30.000 I don't wanna go through it again.

01:49:31.000 It's genuinely painful.

01:49:32.000 Yeah, I feel you, man.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, Russell Brand asked me recently.

01:49:36.000 I was on the Russell Brand show.

01:49:38.000 And he was like, are you planning on escaping or whatever?

01:49:40.000 And I was like, probably not, but if it really did come down to it, El Salvador all the way.

01:49:46.000 Shout out to Max and Stacey, Orange Pill Podcast, because they hit the nail on the head.

01:49:51.000 They're down there doing a ton of tremendous work.

01:49:53.000 Bitcoin has basically Created mass wealth in this country.

01:49:58.000 Crime is dropping.

01:49:59.000 Tourism exploding.

01:50:00.000 Tourism exploding.

01:50:01.000 Standard of living skyrocketing.

01:50:03.000 And it's because they banked people instantly overnight.

01:50:07.000 All of a sudden all these poor people had access to digital transactions and they were given currency in Bitcoin to actually spend and the economy just went and all of a sudden people are trading with each other.

01:50:17.000 It's brilliant stuff.

01:50:18.000 I bet you Naib Bukele there, I bet he would do the show.

01:50:21.000 Next time he's over here.

01:50:23.000 Well, so that's the challenge.

01:50:24.000 He's the president, and he can't just come up here to, you know... But we've actually... I'll put it this way.

01:50:30.000 The answer is yes, but the terms are, how do we figure out how do we do it?

01:50:33.000 So the interest is... I don't want to speak on behalf of the El Salvadoran administration, Let's just say intermediaries we talked to said they absolutely could get us an interview with him.

01:50:45.000 There's interest.

01:50:47.000 You got to come to El Salvador and set up the show.

01:50:49.000 Go to Bitcoin Beach.

01:50:50.000 Yeah, I know.

01:50:51.000 Yeah, we've talked about it.

01:50:52.000 And we've got people constantly hitting us up being like, just spend a week in El Salvador.

01:50:56.000 Do the show down here.

01:50:58.000 And I mean, we could.

01:50:59.000 But the challenge is like, Our booking system is real-time, so we might get hit up by someone who's like, hey, I can come March at this time, and we do, and then we have the calendars speckled with guests, and it's like, which week do we isolate for El Salvador?

01:51:14.000 We have to plan it way in advance, so.

01:51:16.000 Maybe, I don't know, June or something.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, we get the president one day, we get Max and Stacey one day, we could probably fly Ben Stewart down.

01:51:23.000 I mean, we could fly a few people down there with us for the week and work from there, and they could be on the show.

01:51:27.000 It sounds like a better idea for the new show that I'm doing.

01:51:30.000 Where we don't have to worry about topical news segments and conversations.

01:51:34.000 A lot of people seem to think this show is, for some reason, like Joe Rogan.

01:51:37.000 And I'm like, it's not.

01:51:39.000 People say, why doesn't the guest talk more?

01:51:41.000 And I'm like, because it's five people in a room talking about current news, and 20% of the conversation will come from the guest, if that.

01:51:48.000 So, but the friday show is going to be once a week, two hours long probably, and the idea

01:51:58.000 there is one on one hangout conversations.

01:52:02.000 You know, so that means the Timcast news stuff that I do in my monologue kind of will be

01:52:07.000 Monday through Thursday.

01:52:08.000 Friday is a terrible news day.

01:52:11.000 Friday night's fine because that's where all the news goes to die, so like big stories drop Friday at 6pm.

01:52:15.000 So IRL is fine Friday night, you know, but a lot of people are out partying.

01:52:19.000 But for the morning it's like...

01:52:21.000 Do a cultural conversation in depth with an individual on a variety of topics.

01:52:25.000 So we've got some cool stuff.

01:52:26.000 We've got some famous musicians who want to come on.

01:52:28.000 A lot of people that are, you'd be surprised, famous celebrities don't want to do a news show but would talk about this stuff in an interview show.

01:52:40.000 So we found that out.

01:52:41.000 I don't want to say anybody's name because I don't want to scare them off.

01:52:44.000 We're booking some big names, but they're basically like, oh, I couldn't do IRL because you guys talk about the news, politics, politicians.

01:52:50.000 I can talk to you about my experiences with wokeness and stuff, but does it fit this format?

01:52:55.000 And so now we got this new show and they're like, oh yeah, that sounds great.

01:52:57.000 I'll definitely do that.

01:52:58.000 When can we come out?

01:53:00.000 So that's exciting.

01:53:01.000 Yep.

01:53:01.000 We'll see how that plays out.

01:53:02.000 Maybe it'll do so well.

01:53:03.000 We just do a lot more of it.

01:53:06.000 Hillbillory Clinton says, cutter turkey with my pipeline is what I'm gonna do next Thanksgiving.

01:53:12.000 Hopefully my girl will be thankful. 0.94

01:53:14.000 Haha.

01:53:15.000 Good one.

01:53:16.000 Uh-oh.

01:53:17.000 Someone's mad. 0.97

01:53:17.000 Ready to Rumble says, Ian is an absolute midwit. 0.97

01:53:20.000 Several years of telling this guy things Trump has done, and he can't remember a thing.

01:53:24.000 Complete waste of time talking to him.

01:53:25.000 Dude, I'm not gonna waste time drugging up all he lied about.

01:53:29.000 Go do it on your own.

01:53:30.000 But you're saying he lied about things like, everybody loves me, and it's like, oh, okay, Trump.

01:53:33.000 Like, that's not impacting anybody.

01:53:34.000 It's just him being- It's a lie.

01:53:36.000 Alright, next episode, Ian will have a list of top five Trump lies.

01:53:39.000 I'd be happy to.

01:53:39.000 You wanna do it now?

01:53:40.000 Take up 20 minutes?

01:53:41.000 I mean, what do you guys wanna do?

01:53:42.000 Read superchats.

01:53:45.000 Alright.

01:53:47.000 Where we at?

01:53:48.000 Jimbo says, Orange man rad.

01:53:51.000 That's right, orange man is red.

01:53:52.000 I think Trump was way better in 2016, he was hilarious.

01:53:56.000 But, you know, I think, you gotta understand that they strapped weights to his ankles as soon as he got elected.

01:54:05.000 Like, we have not actually seen a Trump presidency.

01:54:07.000 They'll argue that was a good thing, they saved this country.

01:54:09.000 Yeah, right.

01:54:11.000 We got as good as we got with Trump and you guys holding him back.

01:54:14.000 Biden's provably made everything worse and you're giving him free reign.

01:54:19.000 Alright, Michael McCord says Trump is a member of the mercantile class.

01:54:23.000 DeSantis is a member of the ruling class.

01:54:25.000 Trump, wrong schools, wrong family, made money in business, not a lawyer.

01:54:28.000 DeSantis, right schools, military service, lawyer, ruling class.

01:54:32.000 Didn't Trump go to UPenn?

01:54:33.000 I don't know.

01:54:34.000 He went to University of Pennsylvania?

01:54:35.000 Yeah.

01:54:36.000 I know that Ron DeSantis, he's done a lot of good things.

01:54:41.000 I'm not going to be like, oh no, he's got bad backers.

01:54:44.000 Look at all these good things.

01:54:44.000 Well, he's done good things.

01:54:45.000 I can accept that.

01:54:46.000 I had to.

01:54:46.000 I'd vote for him.

01:54:47.000 But I think it's a no-brainer that Trump-DeSantis is the ticket.

01:54:53.000 I think anybody who's being honest is going to be like, okay.

01:54:56.000 But does DeSantis really want to be a VP?

01:54:59.000 I think that's what he is.

01:55:00.000 I don't think it would be a bad thing for him to be a VP, but I think there are enough people who don't want Trump to run that, and I don't know DeSantis at all, but it could be easy to be talked into like, no, you don't want to be VP because then you're always second fiddle to Trump and this, that, and the other.

01:55:14.000 Like, he could, I don't know, but I suspect he could be talked into seeing it as a negative when it really wouldn't be.

01:55:19.000 I look at DeSantis and I think on the scale of presidentiality, with one being the lowest and ten being the best, or let's say one being the best and ten being the lowest, I don't know, whatever.

01:55:33.000 Ron DeSantis is a ten.

01:55:34.000 It's like he's the bottom of presidentiality.

01:55:37.000 Could he be president?

01:55:38.000 He could, but he's not that presidential.

01:55:42.000 Donald Trump is presidential for weird reasons.

01:55:43.000 I don't know, he's a tall, boastful, loud, commanding guy.

01:55:49.000 In the VP list, Kamala Harris doesn't even chart at all.

01:55:52.000 I don't even know how she got there.

01:55:53.000 Ron DeSantis is number one.

01:55:55.000 He is actually slightly above the best possible choice for a VP, in my opinion, because he's almost on presidential level.

01:56:03.000 Joe Biden is not presidential at all.

01:56:05.000 He's barely VP.

01:56:06.000 How he got there, man, is beyond me.

01:56:08.000 But that's why I'm like a Trump-DeSantis ticket, Tulsi Gabbard National Security Advisor.

01:56:12.000 And I do think picking DeSantis is an investment in the future of whatever movement Trump has created, right?

01:56:18.000 I mean, if he wins 2024, he can't run again.

01:56:22.000 So someone's gonna have to take his place.

01:56:25.000 Hillbillory Clinton says, hear me out, Pool Crowder 2024, and their slogan can be, if you crowd the pool, we'll kick you out.

01:56:33.000 That will never happen.

01:56:33.000 That's funny.

01:56:35.000 Certainly not.

01:56:37.000 I couldn't imagine why someone wouldn't want to be in politics.

01:56:39.000 You know what I think?

01:56:40.000 I gotta be honest.

01:56:41.000 I think most people get into politics because they're mediocre people, and that's their path towards the limelight.

01:56:46.000 Hardworking people who want to build something?

01:56:49.000 They'll do it the hard way and they'll get to a position of freedom, success, liberty, etc.

01:56:54.000 And then you have people, not every single one, don't get me, I'm not trying to insult every, I think there's a handful of really good politicians who really do want to do good and this is their vehicle, but a lot of them are just like, I'm not worth anything, my business isn't that big, I'm not famous, I'll run for office.

01:57:08.000 You know.

01:57:09.000 What was that?

01:57:11.000 It's just hard to imagine all of the restrictions, right?

01:57:15.000 Like, think of Matt Gaetz being here.

01:57:17.000 Didn't he say, like, oh, I don't know if I can drink that expensive whiskey.

01:57:20.000 Like, there are rules to your- He said no.

01:57:21.000 I said, okay, you can't have any.

01:57:23.000 Right.

01:57:23.000 And like, there are all kinds of rules to, like, what you can do, how you can spend your money, where you can go, your time has to be accounted for, you have to be in your district certain amount of time.

01:57:29.000 Like, I think that there are a lot of people who are great and have a lot of positive effect who don't necessarily want to give up the things that people who become the president have to give up.

01:57:38.000 All right.

01:57:39.000 Big Joe says, I want to see a congressional, congregational cage match.

01:57:43.000 It would accomplish just as much as they do now.

01:57:46.000 At least it'd be entertaining.

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:50.000 Yeah.

01:57:51.000 Rundell Schmidt says, Tim, I think you should do some kind of fundraiser for all the people affected from the train derailment.

01:57:56.000 I think you could really raise a lot to help.

01:57:59.000 What we would need to do is find a charity or non-profit that does that, and then we could do a show where we're like, let's see how much money we can raise for them.

01:58:07.000 We don't have the legal capacity to accept money for anybody like that, so we couldn't do it.

01:58:11.000 I also want to just, as an aside, mention there are now bocus emojis and golden rooster emojis available to members in the chat on YouTube.

01:58:22.000 So if you want to, people are posting, I see people posting little bocus faces. 1.00

01:58:27.000 Bocas faces. 1.00

01:58:28.000 Maybe we need to make a Bocas wearing a beanie. 1.00

01:58:30.000 Yeah, that'd be good.

01:58:32.000 C. Albright says, I'm a shift manager at a burger joint from Cali.

01:58:36.000 I am looking to move.

01:58:37.000 If you're still looking for help at your coffee shop, I'd love to apply.

01:58:40.000 It is under construction, I guess.

01:58:42.000 Like the contractors have come in.

01:58:44.000 They've mapped everything out.

01:58:46.000 They're planning everything out.

01:58:47.000 Then we're going to have a second floor skate shop, hangout games and stuff.

01:58:51.000 And then like private club, third floor or something like that.

01:58:53.000 I don't know.

01:58:54.000 It's coming along.

01:58:56.000 Oh, everybody's spamming Golden Roosters and Bocas emojis now.

01:59:00.000 Bocas emojis.

01:59:03.000 Yeah, Bocas is a cat.

01:59:05.000 All right, where are we at?

01:59:07.000 Alan Schroer, if DeSantis is COO, then the proper role for him is Chief of Staff.

01:59:13.000 VP is neutered.

01:59:14.000 No more Scott for VP.

01:59:15.000 Tulsi as Secretary of Defense.

01:59:17.000 Agreed.

01:59:18.000 Yeah.

01:59:19.000 There we go.

01:59:20.000 Agreed.

01:59:21.000 It's just unusual to have a chief of staff then transition to, you know, running for president.

01:59:25.000 I don't know of anyone who's, you know, successfully launched that kind of campaign.

01:59:29.000 And he's already governor.

01:59:30.000 So that doesn't seem like it.

01:59:32.000 VP may be neutered in some capacity, but they could do it right.

01:59:35.000 And it would give him a chance.

01:59:36.000 Like people say one of the weakest things for DeSantis is his foreign policy experience.

01:59:40.000 Like in the VP, you would probably have more chance to interact with federal foreign policy.

01:59:44.000 I don't know.

01:59:45.000 It's just a thought.

01:59:46.000 Yeah?

01:59:47.000 All right, where were we?

01:59:50.000 Jake says Trump went to New York Military Academy, where he did very well.

01:59:53.000 I'm sure he's walked more than most, with the CEO screaming and marching right behind him, too.

01:59:58.000 Fair point!

01:59:59.000 And that's why I said I don't want to single out Trump, because, you know, on the golf course, obviously, he's walking, too, outside of military school.

02:00:04.000 But there are people who are born to wealthy families who probably have not walked a mile.

02:00:08.000 Isn't that crazy to think?

02:00:10.000 They go out of their house, and probably the only time they walk a mile is when they're on the golf course.

02:00:14.000 I don't want to be hyperbolic about Trump either.

02:00:19.000 I did find one of his lies, and they seem to come out of the woodwork, that he likes WikiLeaks.

02:00:24.000 I think in 2016 he said, quote, WikiLeaks.

02:00:27.000 I love WikiLeaks.

02:00:28.000 And then in 2019, I know nothing about WikiLeaks.

02:00:32.000 So how does that contradict?

02:00:33.000 So he says he knew nothing about it, but that was a lie because he used to love them.

02:00:37.000 Now he pretends like he doesn't know anything about it, while he lets his attorney general just spearhead Assange and take him into prison.

02:00:42.000 So see, this is what the media did all the time.

02:00:45.000 I can certainly understand why you're like, I see what Trump is doing.

02:00:47.000 I'm not going to give a benefit out on this one.

02:00:49.000 But it's like someone going like, I absolutely love Lindor truffles, delicious chocolate.

02:00:54.000 And then someone says, what's in it?

02:00:56.000 And you go, I don't know anything about it.

02:00:58.000 And then they go, how you lied?

02:00:59.000 Yeah, but three, it's like saying I love The Infinity Gauntlet.

02:01:02.000 It's my favorite comic book.

02:01:04.000 He didn't say that.

02:01:05.000 He said, I love it.

02:01:06.000 What about the Infinity Gauntlet?

02:01:06.000 I don't know anything about the Infinity Gauntlet.

02:01:08.000 See, this is what the media does.

02:01:10.000 Trump said, I love WikiLeaks.

02:01:12.000 He loved them when they were exposing Hillary Clinton's emails.

02:01:14.000 He loved them.

02:01:15.000 And then when asked more specific questions about what he was doing, he said, I don't know.

02:01:18.000 Well, three years later, when he was asked about it, when he was taking an assassination test.

02:01:20.000 This is what the media does.

02:01:22.000 Did Trump lie in that regard?

02:01:23.000 What you're saying is quite literally not a lie.

02:01:26.000 This is what the media does.

02:01:27.000 when he said, I know nothing about WikiLeaks.

02:01:29.000 He knew about him.

02:01:30.000 He knew who Assange was.

02:01:31.000 Because in 2016, he was praising Assange and WikiLeaks.

02:01:33.000 This is what the media does.

02:01:35.000 You are taking something Trump said that was vague and nondescript, applying your personal

02:01:40.000 worldview to his statement, and then being upset.

02:01:44.000 You're saying it's another instance of hyperbole.

02:01:46.000 What I'm saying is, I can go, I love Infinity Gauntlet, and then you go, what did Thanos say to Death?

02:01:53.000 And I'm like, I don't know.

02:01:54.000 No, it'd be like you saying, I love Infinity Gauntlet, then like a couple days later I go, oh yeah, Tim loves Infinity Gauntlet, and you're like, I don't know anything about Infinity Gauntlet.

02:01:59.000 I'd be like, what?

02:01:59.000 You just said you loved it!

02:02:00.000 And I do, but I'm not ready.

02:02:01.000 Why would you say you don't know anything about it?

02:02:03.000 Because it's true!

02:02:03.000 How can you love something you don't know anything about?

02:02:06.000 See, that's what you don't understand.

02:02:07.000 You are ascribing your worldview to a statement I said because you didn't ask me the context.

02:02:12.000 Donald Trump could be saying, I love WikiLeaks because someone said, you say they released something about Hillary Clinton?

02:02:17.000 Oh, I love it.

02:02:18.000 It's fantastic.

02:02:19.000 Then later, someone says, but Julian Assange did these things with Afghanistan and the war logs and then Trump goes, well, I don't know anything about it.

02:02:25.000 Okay, if your stance is that he didn't lie about Wikileaks, not knowing about it, then okay.

02:02:29.000 This is what the media does.

02:02:31.000 They will assign context to his statements.

02:02:35.000 You can say Trump was trying to backpedal because... I'm like, sure, I get it, if that's how you view it.

02:02:41.000 But if Trump comes out and says, I love Wikileaks, and then someone says, oh, you do?

02:02:46.000 Who's its second in command?

02:02:47.000 He goes, I don't know anything about it.

02:02:50.000 That's not a lie!

02:02:50.000 Well, what was the context of him saying, I don't know anything about it?

02:02:53.000 Was it trying... Like, that matters.

02:02:55.000 Because if he's trying to get out of having ever said that he supported it in a way so that he can... Because what was manipulative was that he made everyone think that he was gonna potentially pardon Assange.

02:03:09.000 But then, I don't think so.

02:03:10.000 Yeah, he was like, let's find 30,000 more of her emails, the ones that disappeared.

02:03:14.000 That's what he said in 2016.

02:03:15.000 2018, 2019, the context is, he said, after Assange was arrested, he said, I know nothing about Wikileaks, it's not my thing.

02:03:20.000 And I know there's something having to do with Julia Assange.

02:03:23.000 I've been seeing what's happening with Assange, and that will be a determination, I would imagine, mostly by the Attorney General, who's doing an excellent job.

02:03:29.000 Like, what, he just sold the guy out?

02:03:31.000 So, objectivity is, Donald Trump says he loves Wikileaks.

02:03:35.000 Okay.

02:03:36.000 He did not say, I know everything about WikiLeaks.

02:03:39.000 I know all about Julian Assange.

02:03:41.000 I'm gonna pardon the man because I love him so much.

02:03:43.000 And then later they said, hey, you're still gonna do that?

02:03:45.000 I don't know anything about it.

02:03:46.000 Don't look at me.

02:03:46.000 That's not what happened.

02:03:47.000 Someone said, wow, a bunch of emails got released.

02:03:50.000 You see on Tucker Carlson?

02:03:51.000 And then he goes, I love this.

02:03:52.000 I love the WikiLeaks.

02:03:53.000 What, you know, these, these documents getting released.

02:03:55.000 Then later on they go, Julian Assange is accused of ripening, he goes, well I don't know anything about ripening.

02:03:59.000 Yeah, they're separate statements but it's similar to kind of the criticism that he said he was going to drain the swamp and then what actually got drained.

02:04:05.000 I mean he could have, Trump has the ability to declassify as much material as he wanted.

02:04:09.000 He could have gone on an absolute rampage exposing everything.

02:04:13.000 You saw how that went?

02:04:14.000 The FBI raids his house.

02:04:16.000 He has plenary declassification powers and the federal government still comes after him. 1.00

02:04:21.000 Look, Trump lies about stupid things. 1.00

02:04:24.000 No question about it. 1.00

02:04:25.000 But what I can't stand is...

02:04:28.000 If Trump gives me a vague, nondescript statement, I will not apply context to it that does not exist.

02:04:34.000 So that is not a good example of Trump lying.

02:04:36.000 I mean, you said it on the campaign trail that he loves WikiLeaks, and then after Assange got arrested, he said he doesn't know anything about WikiLeaks.

02:04:41.000 How is that not a lie?

02:04:42.000 It's a weird linguistic kind of context.

02:04:44.000 Ian, you hate Trump?

02:04:45.000 That's what lying is.

02:04:45.000 It's a weird linguistic trick.

02:04:47.000 No, it isn't.

02:04:47.000 Lying would be him saying, I know everything about Julian Assange, and I love the man.

02:04:52.000 Then someone goes, A year later.

02:04:55.000 So do you still love Julian Assange?

02:04:56.000 I don't know who that is.

02:04:57.000 Yes, that would also be a lie.

02:04:58.000 But Trump didn't do that.

02:04:59.000 Well, it's a different lie.

02:05:00.000 I mean, he didn't say elephants are yellow and purple either.

02:05:03.000 When Trump said last night in Sweden, you see what happened? 0.98

02:05:05.000 And the media said, Trump's insane.

02:05:07.000 Nothing happened in Sweden.

02:05:09.000 Because what Trump meant was last night on Tucker Carlson, they talked about Sweden.

02:05:13.000 You see what happened?

02:05:14.000 The media assigned fake context to what he was saying to accuse him of lying.

02:05:19.000 They do it all the time.

02:05:20.000 It's annoying because I'm trying to understand the truth.

02:05:24.000 What are Trump's motivations?

02:05:25.000 What is he really getting at?

02:05:27.000 And the reality is this.

02:05:28.000 WikiLeaks releases emails.

02:05:30.000 Trump doesn't know anything about it.

02:05:31.000 Someone asks him and he goes, Oh, I love the WikiLeaks.

02:05:34.000 I love this. 0.99

02:05:34.000 He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. 0.99

02:05:35.000 Then he's a liar. 1.00

02:05:36.000 No, he's not.

02:05:37.000 He saw something in the news and he said, I love this.

02:05:40.000 But he didn't.

02:05:40.000 But because he didn't know what it was, is what you're saying.

02:05:42.000 See, that's Trump derangement syndrome.

02:05:43.000 No, I'm not deranged. 0.98

02:05:44.000 I know a liar when I see one.

02:05:46.000 Dude, you got TDS ban. 0.98

02:05:48.000 I mean, if you want to slob the knob, bro, go.

02:05:51.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:05:52.000 That's another good example of it.

02:05:53.000 What are you saying?

02:05:54.000 You're saying his lie is not a lie.

02:05:56.000 I don't know what to say.

02:05:57.000 What did he...

02:05:58.000 There are better examples, I'm sure.

02:06:00.000 The fact that you can't explain why Trump said he loved WikiLeaks.

02:06:04.000 He loved WikiLeaks because it was exposing Hillary and he loved the idea. 0.99

02:06:06.000 He didn't say he loved the idea.

02:06:08.000 He even encouraged the Russians to quote, find the 30,000 emails from Clinton's server that are missing.

02:06:13.000 And that has nothing to do with Wikileaks.

02:06:14.000 That's why he loved it, because it was exposing those emails.

02:06:17.000 So let me explain to those that are still listening.

02:06:20.000 I'm trying to understand the truth.

02:06:21.000 You are obfuscating it.

02:06:22.000 You are making it difficult to understand.

02:06:24.000 This is one instance of many where maybe he was just saying something he didn't mean when he said he loved something that maybe he didn't know anything about.

02:06:32.000 You can love something you don't know much about.

02:06:35.000 That is not true.

02:06:36.000 That is not love.

02:06:37.000 See, you're intentionally making things confusing.

02:06:40.000 I don't know a whole lot about football at all.

02:06:42.000 I love the Super Bowl.

02:06:43.000 We had a Super Bowl party.

02:06:44.000 It was so much fun.

02:06:45.000 I tell people, oh, I love Super Bowl parties.

02:06:47.000 Then later people go, oh yeah?

02:06:49.000 You're a big fan of the Chiefs?

02:06:49.000 I don't know anything about them.

02:06:51.000 You said you love the Super Bowl, dude!

02:06:52.000 Were you lying?

02:06:53.000 No!

02:06:54.000 I love the Super Bowl!

02:06:55.000 Friends come over, the game's on.

02:06:56.000 I don't really know what's going on, but I love hanging out with my friends.

02:06:58.000 You love the gatherings, but the game itself is not in your brain.

02:07:03.000 Right.

02:07:03.000 But I say I love the Super Bowl.

02:07:04.000 You'd be considered a fair-weather fan if you said that to a real football fan.

02:07:07.000 You see how you're trying to make it confusing to understand reality here?

02:07:10.000 We had a Super Bowl party.

02:07:12.000 I love Super Bowl parties.

02:07:13.000 That's different than loving the Super Bowl.

02:07:15.000 We got a gallon and a half of crab dip.

02:07:17.000 We had a gallon and a half, great, we played poker, the game was on, people were cheering, they did squares and all that stuff, and I know nothing about football.

02:07:26.000 So if someone came and asked me, oh you're having a Super Bowl party, you love the Super Bowl?

02:07:30.000 I love it, it's so much fun, the game's on, people are cheering, I know a little bit about it, and then a year later they're like, you love football, right?

02:07:36.000 And I'll be like, I don't know anything really about it.

02:07:39.000 You came out and you said you love football.

02:07:41.000 Well, I was talking about the Super Bowl, we did this one thing this one time.

02:07:44.000 Donald Trump sees a story about emails getting released and he goes, I love this, this WikiLeaks thing.

02:07:48.000 Later on, someone asks him a specific question about something related to WikiLeaks and he goes, I don't know anything about it.

02:07:52.000 That's not a lie.

02:07:52.000 It wouldn't be like you saying you love the Super Bowl and then saying you don't about football.

02:07:55.000 It would be saying you love the Super Bowl and then I go, well yeah, you love the Super Bowl.

02:07:59.000 You're like, no, I don't know anything about that.

02:08:00.000 The statements can coexist, but it's a good debate.

02:08:02.000 How can you love something you know nothing about, Bill?

02:08:05.000 What's in chocolate?

02:08:07.000 Do you like chocolate, Ian?

02:08:08.000 Yeah.

02:08:08.000 What are the ingredients of a Lindor truffle?

02:08:10.000 I don't know.

02:08:11.000 How could you love it if you don't even know what you're eating?

02:08:13.000 You asked me if I like chocolate.

02:08:14.000 It's cacao.

02:08:15.000 What's a Lindor truffle?

02:08:16.000 There's chocolate in a Lindor truffle, maybe.

02:08:18.000 You can like something without knowing what goes on inside.

02:08:20.000 You asked me if I liked a Lindor truffle.

02:08:22.000 They're totally different statements.

02:08:23.000 I think Trump saying, I don't know about Wikileaks in the second That sentence is just as easily interpreted as, I don't want to comment on that right now.

02:08:31.000 That's what it was.

02:08:32.000 I don't want to talk about it.

02:08:33.000 But that's okay, right?

02:08:34.000 If you were the President of the United States and you're walking by, I don't know what the context was.

02:08:38.000 Let's say he's going aboard Air Force One.

02:08:40.000 Someone calls out, hey, do you know what's going on with Julian Assange?

02:08:42.000 And he's like, I don't know.

02:08:44.000 But, you know, the Attorney General's on it.

02:08:45.000 Things are good.

02:08:46.000 I don't think that negates the fact that he was happy with the work they were doing at a different time.

02:08:50.000 In a different context, right?

02:08:52.000 He's not saying, I've never heard of Julian Assange, and I hate everything about WikiLeaks.

02:08:56.000 Like, he's not reversing position entirely.

02:08:58.000 Well, he might as well have reversed.

02:09:00.000 Because he didn't do anything.

02:09:01.000 That's different, though.

02:09:02.000 His inaction is him denouncing James O'Keefe.

02:09:07.000 You love James O'Keefe?

02:09:08.000 Yeah, I like him.

02:09:09.000 So, you like what he did to that employee, Janet?

02:09:13.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:09:14.000 What are you talking about?

02:09:15.000 You lied then.

02:09:16.000 You don't love James O'Keefe.

02:09:16.000 In three years, if you ask me if I said that I like James O'Keefe, I wouldn't tell you I don't know anything about him.

02:09:21.000 But if I said, hey, do you like what's going on with Project Veritas, you might say, I don't know what's going on with Project Veritas.

02:09:26.000 I don't know anything about it.

02:09:27.000 I don't know anything about it, right?

02:09:29.000 You don't like James?

02:09:30.000 But that's what I mean.

02:09:31.000 So you lied.

02:09:32.000 I say I don't like Project Veritas, and then three years later you ask me about it, and I say I don't know anything about Project Veritas.

02:09:36.000 That would be a lie, because I already am on camera telling you I like it.

02:09:40.000 But you're saying that you... Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.

02:09:45.000 Everybody in the chat, and I think the three of us all agree, Ian, I think you have Trump derangement syndrome.

02:09:51.000 People in the chat what?

02:09:51.000 No, I don't think he has Trump derangement syndrome.

02:09:54.000 I think that this is an understandable argument.

02:09:57.000 I disagree.

02:09:58.000 I've been consistently in the position of Trump does bad things and Trump lies, but I'm sick of the media lying about what he says or does in an attempt to make people hate him.

02:10:07.000 And so, I just feel like, Ian, you've found one weird example you're trying to justify that Trump is a liar because you didn't find anything else.

02:10:14.000 It's the first one that came up on CNN.

02:10:16.000 Sure, and it's not really a lie.

02:10:17.000 It's a bad example.

02:10:18.000 Well, he could have said, I don't want to talk about it.

02:10:19.000 And that would have been him owning it.

02:10:21.000 Instead, he acted like he can't even talk about it because he doesn't know anything about it.

02:10:24.000 That's it.

02:10:24.000 Total.

02:10:25.000 Trump Derangement Syndrome means that there is no way, no universe in which you would ever change your mind.

02:10:29.000 And I know for a fact that, Ian, there is a world in which he would.

02:10:32.000 I would totally agree, too.

02:10:34.000 Trump Derangement Syndrome is, this is the perfect example of it.

02:10:38.000 There's a viral comedic video that came out during the Trump administration where a guy

02:10:41.000 said stop making me defend Trump.

02:10:43.000 And it's this video where it's like they're playing, someone's watching TV and they're 0.99

02:10:46.000 like can you believe that Trump called all Mexicans rapist animals? 0.98

02:10:49.000 And the guy goes, he looks and he goes, he turns around and he sees him and he goes Trump 0.97

02:10:53.000 never said that.

02:10:54.000 And they go, why are you defending Trump?

02:10:56.000 Are you a Trump supporter?

02:10:57.000 And he goes, no, but Trump never said that.

02:11:00.000 And they're like, you're a white supremacist, you support Trump.

02:11:03.000 And he's like, what are you talking?

02:11:05.000 That never happened.

02:11:06.000 Joe Biden launched his campaign on claiming Trump praised white nationalists.

02:11:09.000 It literally never happened.

02:11:11.000 Trump speaks in vague terms often because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

02:11:16.000 He hears a crowd cheering for something and he goes, I love it, I love it.

02:11:19.000 And he's being vague and speaking in general terms.

02:11:22.000 Then you can ask him something very specific later on about, I don't know what you're talking about.

02:11:25.000 And maybe he also just doesn't remember.

02:11:26.000 Here's one.

02:11:27.000 16 seconds.

02:11:28.000 Wikileaks!

02:11:28.000 I love Wikileaks in 2016.

02:11:30.000 And what does that mean?

02:11:32.000 For him, it could mean whatever.

02:11:33.000 It could mean he doesn't even know what they are, but he says he loves them.

02:11:35.000 I don't know.

02:11:35.000 It's like someone bringing you a Papa John's pizza, you eat it, and everyone starts saying, did you like that pizza?

02:11:40.000 You're like, I love Papa John's, it's so good.

02:11:42.000 And then three years later, someone's like, did you hear about Papa John's and what happened with the racist thing?

02:11:46.000 And you go, I don't know anything about Papa John's.

02:11:47.000 And you're like, he lied!

02:11:49.000 Like, dude, they're totally different contexts.

02:11:58.000 Let's try and do the Members Only Live.

02:11:59.000 So go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:12:02.000 We're going to try and do the Members Only Show live.

02:12:04.000 We'll see if it works.

02:12:06.000 Should be fun, I guess.

02:12:07.000 I don't know if it'll work.

02:12:08.000 We'll see if we can make it happen.

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02:12:19.000 Bill, do you want to shout anything out?

02:12:21.000 Yeah, everyone.

02:12:22.000 So April 14th, TimCast IRL, live in Austin.

02:12:26.000 April 15th, MindsFest at the Vulcan.

02:12:29.000 Same venue, so everyone who's in town for TimCast IRL, please come out.

02:12:33.000 I'm just going to read the lineup quick.

02:12:34.000 It's badass.

02:12:35.000 We got Destiny, Brian Callen, Peter Boghossian, Daryl Davis, Chris Williamson, Kerry Smith, Jamie Kilstein doing some stand-up, Matthew Israeli, Michael Siefert from Public Square,

02:12:52.000 Ian Crossland, Luke Rudowski, we've got... Rudkowski.

02:12:57.000 Rudkowski.

02:12:58.000 Really?

02:12:58.000 Yes!

02:12:59.000 Okay.

02:12:59.000 He just pronounces it wrong on purpose.

02:13:01.000 Oh, does he?

02:13:02.000 Yeah, Brian Callen, Leighton Woodhouse, who's a Twitter Files journalist, Jack Posobiec, and then we got live music presented by Based Records, Ira Dean, Jeffrey Steele, and Suzanne Santo.

02:13:13.000 So it's going to be live podcasts, debates, comedy.

02:13:16.000 It's going to be an absolute blast.

02:13:18.000 Please come out.

02:13:19.000 It's going to be rock on.

02:13:19.000 Where do people get tickets?

02:13:20.000 Tickets.VulcanPresents.com.

02:13:25.000 That's awesome.

02:13:26.000 Cool.

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02:13:43.000 I did a show with them today.

02:13:44.000 Ian's on the show pretty regularly.

02:13:46.000 It's a great time and they're pretty cool.

02:13:48.000 All right, bye, everybody, bye.

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02:14:00.000 As always, this live show will work.

02:14:03.000 Let's get to it.

02:14:04.000 All right, so we should have that members-only live show up in a couple minutes.

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