Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - National Guard Deployed To Transport Children To School Amid Economic Breakdown w-Zuby

00:00:00.000 We got some really bad news today. I'm...

00:00:15.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:00:17.000 Norm Macdonald passed away.

00:00:18.000 He was battling cancer for about a decade privately.

00:00:21.000 You know, he didn't want to make it public, I guess, because it's not who he was, and he wanted to just keep those struggles between him and his family and stuff.

00:00:30.000 And I can respect it, but to me, this came as a big shock, hearing that he had passed.

00:00:34.000 Norm Macdonald is a legend.

00:00:36.000 And right now, people are posting all of these really incredible bits that he did.

00:00:41.000 We actually just referenced him in this past week a couple times because of this bit he did where he threw back the social justice narrative in the face of these woke personalities.

00:00:53.000 And it was brilliant.

00:00:54.000 I mean, the dude had just an amazing way of delivering his jokes.

00:00:59.000 There's a viral clip going around of the old SNL stuff that he did, constantly calling Hillary Clinton a liar.

00:01:06.000 It's just so good.

00:01:07.000 It was so good.

00:01:08.000 So I'm sad to hear it.

00:01:09.000 Rest in peace, Norm Macdonald.

00:01:12.000 Major bummer because we could definitely use more people like him right now but uh you know again uh my respects condolences everybody's pretty bummed on it but we got a bunch of very serious and important news to talk about the craziest was this report that we saw the other day massachusetts has deployed the national guard to drive children to school Because their labor infrastructure is falling apart to that extent.

00:01:35.000 In New York, they're apparently going to be shutting down maternity wards because nurses are all quitting due to vaccine mandates.

00:01:41.000 We got another story about a lieutenant colonel who's resigning over vaccine mandates.

00:01:46.000 And you know what?

00:01:46.000 I think they know this is the outcome.

00:01:49.000 They know that when they mandate this stuff, people just say, alright, quit.

00:01:53.000 We've known about the great resignation.

00:01:55.000 Was it 41% of people are planning on leaving their jobs?

00:01:58.000 Microsoft poll, that was from earlier this year, and they're expecting it to get worse.

00:02:01.000 And then they go and do this?

00:02:03.000 They gotta know.

00:02:04.000 They have to know.

00:02:06.000 So now we're hearing the courts in New York are reversing the mandate on medical workers that barred exemptions, in which case seems like they're hoping they can bring back some employees because they're driving them all away, but we'll see.

00:02:21.000 We're getting that stuff and, um, you know, I don't want to lead with this because I did it for my main segment, but probably one of the biggest stories of our generation is General Mark Milley engaged in, uh, I mean, to put it lightly, I'll put it colloquially, Treasonous behavior?

00:02:40.000 He made secret phone calls to Chinese military to warn them about U.S.

00:02:45.000 military actions, assuring them we wouldn't take action against them and that if Donald Trump intended to, he would inform them right away.

00:02:52.000 He did this in October of 2020, before the election even took place.

00:02:56.000 He had a meeting on January 8th where he called together a bunch of senior officers and had them swear an oath to him that if Donald Trump gave them orders, they would come to him first, which is a military coup.

00:03:07.000 That's crazy.

00:03:08.000 So we'll get into it to the extent that we can get into it because, well, we're being joined by a Brit, Zuby.

00:03:14.000 What's up, man?

00:03:15.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:16.000 Everybody knows you, but introduce yourself anyway.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, my name is Zuby, independent rapper, author, host of the Real Talk with Zuby podcast.

00:03:23.000 Coach, public speaker.

00:03:25.000 I do a lot of things.

00:03:26.000 People know me for a lot of things.

00:03:28.000 And I'm happy to be here, man.

00:03:29.000 I've been in the States for about six weeks now.

00:03:31.000 I think this is my eighth or ninth stop in terms of cities.

00:03:35.000 So I got off to Hawaii tomorrow morning and many more stops after that.

00:03:41.000 You know, I gotta say, I mentioned this before, but on one of our shows, because you had this Twitter thread that had gone viral, and I'm like, very often we'll see a public conversation around some ideas that originated from your tweets.

00:03:52.000 Like, you'll have some insight into a circumstance or whatever, and then all of a sudden I see everybody, like, piecing it together.

00:03:59.000 Like, you're the first one to the party, you know what I mean?

00:04:01.000 Yeah, it happens a lot.

00:04:03.000 I've even seen a lot of times where I'll talk about something on Twitter and then I'll listen to the Joe Rogan podcast like in the next couple days, and you know, he'll reference it directly or it'll be similar.

00:04:12.000 So, I mean, it's crazy.

00:04:15.000 I mean, my Twitter now is reaching about 5-6 million impressions a day, doing over 2 billion impressions a year.

00:04:21.000 Which is nuts.

00:04:23.000 I think when people think of reach, they typically think of platforms like YouTube or maybe podcasts or even Facebook or Instagram.

00:04:30.000 But in my case, Twitter in particular for me has just been really powerful.

00:04:34.000 Your music does well, but it's like you're a famous philosopher at this point, basically.

00:04:38.000 No, but for real, like when it comes to like something will happen in the news, you know, you're typically the first person to put the pieces together that I notice.

00:04:46.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 And that's why you have these viral threads so often.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:48.000 Well, I think a lot about the human condition and why things are the way they are.

00:04:54.000 Why I, you, why, why do people behave the way that they behave?

00:04:58.000 So I think a lot of people view me through quite a political lens and sometimes I delve into politics, but really I'm much more interested in society and culture and human psychology, morality, all of that stuff, which leans into politics and it leans into religion as well.

00:05:13.000 But really I'm just trying to work things out, understand.

00:05:16.000 Why things are the way they are?

00:05:17.000 Why do people have such differing beliefs and perspectives on reality itself and this has been going on forever?

00:05:24.000 And I think with my background I come from a particular perspective and set of experiences where I can

00:05:31.000 See things from a lot of different angles So for those who don't know, I was born in England.

00:05:36.000 I grew up in the Middle East in Saudi Arabia.

00:05:38.000 My family background is originally from Nigeria.

00:05:40.000 And when I was in Saudi, I also went to an American slash international school for several years.

00:05:45.000 And beyond that, I've traveled to a lot of different countries.

00:05:48.000 So I don't see things kind of just from a purely British perspective or an American perspective.

00:05:53.000 It's just kind of a global lens.

00:05:56.000 That explains the no British accent, I guess, right?

00:05:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:58.000 There you go.

00:05:59.000 All right, we'll talk about a lot of stuff.

00:06:00.000 We got Ian hanging out.

00:06:01.000 What's up, everybody?

00:06:02.000 Ian Croson in the house.

00:06:03.000 Good to see you, Zoob.

00:06:04.000 No doubt, bro.

00:06:05.000 Happy to see you.

00:06:07.000 I am also here in the corner.

00:06:08.000 I'm really excited to have Zuby.

00:06:09.000 I just bought his book, Strong Advice, a little while ago and I'm really looking forward to reading it.

00:06:13.000 I haven't gotten to it yet.

00:06:14.000 Amazing, thank you.

00:06:14.000 But I shall, yeah.

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00:07:02.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:07:04.000 And I think I can just tell you the news.

00:07:06.000 Massachusetts governor deploys National Guard to drive buses.

00:07:12.000 Alright, there's the story.

00:07:14.000 250 members of the National Guard are being deployed to support and assist local communities in their school transport efforts.

00:07:20.000 There's two things I see in this story.

00:07:23.000 One, yo, they're starting to deploy National Guard?

00:07:26.000 To, like, do infrastructure work?

00:07:29.000 That's crazy.

00:07:30.000 The second thing is, aside from the fact that it's sort of, you know, it's like a military move to support the crumbling infrastructure, Our economy's on fire.

00:07:39.000 I don't know about you guys in the UK.

00:07:41.000 I know it's pretty bad, I guess.

00:07:43.000 You were telling me a story about how it was really difficult to even travel here.

00:07:47.000 But seeing this story just says to me, everything we've seen over the past few months with food shortages, labor shortages...

00:07:54.000 This is bad.

00:07:56.000 I suspect it's gonna get substantially worse.

00:07:57.000 I just saw Butcher said that beef prices are gonna be up like two bucks by next week.

00:08:01.000 Two bucks a pound maybe or something?

00:08:03.000 By next week, he said.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, there was a period where it doubled.

00:08:07.000 There was like one week where beef was double the price.

00:08:10.000 Great reset!

00:08:11.000 What are we doing?

00:08:11.000 What's happening?

00:08:12.000 Man, it's so weird, man.

00:08:15.000 We're living in the strangest time period.

00:08:17.000 And what's crazy is that all of us who are able to foresee some of these second, third, and fourth order consequences were labeled all sorts of names, right?

00:08:28.000 So from the beginning of this whole pandemic situation, going way back, I was far more concerned about the response and the downstream repercussions of that response economically, financially, people's health, people missing diagnoses of other diseases, people's mental well-being, depression, suicide, effect on children, all of this stuff, a whole bunch of things I haven't even mentioned.

00:08:52.000 It was obvious, right?

00:08:53.000 I mean, if you remember back to, say, about 14-15 months ago, people were acting like it was some toss-up between saving lives and saving the economy.

00:09:02.000 When people were talking about the economy, they were saying, oh, you know, you want people to die, you don't care about grandma, you're putting money above people.

00:09:08.000 That's what people were saying, because they don't understand that the economy is the people.

00:09:13.000 If people aren't working, then There's repercussions of that.

00:09:17.000 In my country, like the NHS, it was all, save the NHS, save the NHS.

00:09:20.000 I'm always like, how do you think the NHS is funded?

00:09:23.000 If people aren't working, then you're not saving the NHS.

00:09:26.000 You're actually going to eventually bankrupt it.

00:09:29.000 And it's already in a tight, it was already in a tight position before all this.

00:09:32.000 But the thing is, when people are gripped by fear, they lose their ability to think logically and rationally.

00:09:38.000 Elon Musk tweeted that meme where it was like an astronaut on the moon and a comet rips through the earth blowing it up and then he's like, oh no, the economy or something like that.

00:09:47.000 There were a bunch of people who were posting dinosaurs looking up at the, you know, the meteor coming down and they were like, oh no, the economy.

00:09:53.000 And I'm just like, I see this stuff and I'm like, man.

00:09:57.000 It's like you said, the people who can see down the road, who can see the second, third, fourth, you know, fifth layer consequences to this, are telling them like, dude, you have no idea what's in store.

00:10:08.000 And even right now, you know, we're hearing a story about the National Guard being deployed.

00:10:12.000 Well, what does it mean when the government starts deploying military to handle infrastructure?

00:10:16.000 You get dangerously close to such infrastructure damage, that martial law is a real possibility.

00:10:24.000 I kind of like it though.

00:10:26.000 In that, I think that our National Guard and our military should be used to build the world.

00:10:29.000 That would be nice, instead of destroy it for once.

00:10:32.000 Like, if we could build solar power, water condensation on housing all around, you know, decentralize.

00:10:36.000 So, in a way... We did that in Afghanistan!

00:10:39.000 Come on, we built a nation, right?

00:10:39.000 Not through force, you know, just through, like, where it's wanted, where it's needed, where people need drinking water.

00:10:45.000 I hear what you're saying, but I recognize if they were like, hey, we've got a National Guard and we're gonna do, like, fixing this road and You know, fixing the pipes in Flint, and maybe helping build new houses in Middle America.

00:10:58.000 But this issue is, our infrastructure is crippled to the point where they're like, if we don't have people working, use military.

00:11:06.000 Like, I'm not gonna pretend like this guarantees we're headed towards communist dictatorship or something.

00:11:13.000 But when you get to the point where your military is being used for critical infrastructure, if that continues, and more jobs are lost, which is happening, and more nurses are quitting, more doctors are quitting, how long until they're like, oh, they've already deployed National Guard for hospitals, how long until they're like, okay, plumbing, how long until they're like, the critical infrastructure of this country is being run by the military?

00:11:34.000 There's a big difference between using the military to do good and having no choice but to use the military, because that's a deep spiral that could Get out of control, I think.

00:11:41.000 What's the proper role of the National Guard?

00:11:44.000 I'm familiar with the term, but I don't know... What exactly is its role supposed to be?

00:11:48.000 I'm gonna look it up.

00:11:49.000 Well, so, National Guard provides... It's a simple way to put it.

00:11:52.000 State Army.

00:11:53.000 I know that's probably offensive to maybe a lot of National Guardsmen, but each state has their own National Guard.

00:11:59.000 They provide defense for the country.

00:12:01.000 They provide support.

00:12:02.000 They're deployed in riots and things like that.

00:12:04.000 Uh, they're not supposed to, it's my understanding, I could be wrong with this, because I was not in the National Guard or the military, so you guys might know better.

00:12:09.000 They're not supposed to enforce laws necessarily, but provide support internally, whereas the Army, the Navy, the Marines, mostly external defense of this nation, they can't enforce laws internally, so...

00:12:21.000 This says here, during peacetime, this is from military.com, each state National Guard answers to the leadership in the 50 states, three territories, and District of Columbia.

00:12:29.000 During national emergencies, however, the President reserves the right to mobilize the National Guard, putting them in federal duty status.

00:12:35.000 Yeah, so we see them deployed for riots pretty often.

00:12:39.000 Floods, natural disasters, they come out and they provide that critical support in major disasters.

00:12:43.000 So I think it's fair to say that we're looking at an economic disaster right now.

00:12:47.000 My concern is this is not a disaster that ends.

00:12:50.000 You know, hurricane comes in, hurricane leaves.

00:12:53.000 You got to fix everything.

00:12:54.000 National Guard can come in, provide a security and assistance.

00:12:56.000 And it's awesome.

00:12:57.000 This disaster is being exacerbated.

00:12:59.000 Yes.

00:13:00.000 The mandates are expanding.

00:13:01.000 They're getting worse.

00:13:02.000 The economy is taking a hit now.

00:13:03.000 Now Biden's got his national vaccine mandate.

00:13:05.000 I don't know if you heard this in the U.S.

00:13:07.000 100 employees or more.

00:13:08.000 People are going to quit like crazy.

00:13:10.000 But the thing is, it's it's a manufactured crisis.

00:13:13.000 Exactly.

00:13:14.000 It's manufactured.

00:13:14.000 When I say that, I'm not specifically saying that the virus is manufactured, but the response to the virus.

00:13:22.000 None of this stuff is necessary, right?

00:13:25.000 It's not necessary, especially at this point, right?

00:13:28.000 It's September 2021 now.

00:13:30.000 We're not even talking February or March 2020.

00:13:34.000 At this point, where you've got the majority of the population have already got immunity, not just in the USA, but in lots of other countries.

00:13:41.000 CDC study said 80%.

00:13:43.000 Yeah.

00:13:44.000 And they're still just going further and further.

00:13:46.000 I mean, you know, if you create these mandates, there's going to be job losses.

00:13:50.000 Like that's just...

00:13:51.000 That's obvious.

00:13:52.000 So I know with a lot of people, people don't like to assume bad intention.

00:13:58.000 And people like to assume that politicians and the media so on and so forth are always working in the best interest of the people.

00:14:04.000 But at this point, I personally cannot put this down to incompetence.

00:14:08.000 I haven't been able to probably for about a year.

00:14:10.000 But certainly at this stage, I'm like, man, there has to be malicious intent there, because it doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

00:14:18.000 Maybe, right?

00:14:18.000 You know, because you mentioned Hanlon's Razor before the show as well.

00:14:23.000 Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.

00:14:26.000 But there's something other than malice or incompetence.

00:14:29.000 There's banality. 0.99

00:14:31.000 You know, so we often, you know, dumb or diabolical, I think, you know, Jack Murphy, Jack Murphy, dumb or diabolical. 0.99

00:14:38.000 And well, what about indifferent? 0.99

00:14:43.000 What about you have a governor who's sitting there and he's like, All right, so we got COVID deaths.

00:14:49.000 I don't want to take responsibility for this.

00:14:51.000 Shut it down.

00:14:52.000 It is easier for a politician to say, shut everything down, so that they can be like, see, nobody died.

00:14:58.000 And then when people are like, you're damaging the economy, he can be like, pandemic, don't look at me.

00:15:02.000 If he says reopen, like they do in Texas and Florida, what happens?

00:15:04.000 The media says, oh, all those dead people are your fault, your fault.

00:15:07.000 So you have politicians who are just... It's the fecklessness.

00:15:12.000 It's the, I don't want to be responsible.

00:15:14.000 So if I lock everything down, you can't blame me for the lockdown.

00:15:17.000 You can blame the pandemic.

00:15:18.000 But if somebody dies, then they're going to blame me for not locking down.

00:15:21.000 I would consider that incompetence.

00:15:24.000 Yeah, I'd call that incompetence, because if you are a leader, part of your job is to lead and to make decisions and to have principles and to stand on them.

00:15:36.000 So if you're not willing to do that, then you're not competent in that position.

00:15:41.000 Yes, fair point.

00:15:43.000 If you're incapable of assuming the responsibility of the office, then you are incompetent.

00:15:49.000 What if you're unwilling?

00:15:52.000 Then you shouldn't be there.

00:15:53.000 Why are you there?

00:15:54.000 Is that malicious?

00:15:55.000 I guess is my question.

00:15:56.000 No, no, I mean, I think malicious means, you know, you mean to cause some type of harm or pain or suffering. 0.69

00:16:03.000 But incompetence, I mean, incompetence doesn't, it can mean stupidity, but it can also simply mean what it says, right? 0.99

00:16:09.000 You're not competent. 0.99

00:16:10.000 at this particular test.

00:16:11.000 There are things that I'm incompetent at. 0.62

00:16:13.000 I'm an incompetent ice skater.

00:16:16.000 Really? 0.63

00:16:16.000 I can't believe you admit that. 0.63

00:16:20.000 I'm an incompetent skateboarder.

00:16:23.000 I don't know how to skate.

00:16:23.000 I have no competency in skateboarding.

00:16:25.000 I saw you miss a few of those shots.

00:16:28.000 I walked down and you missed and I was like, he's got no skills.

00:16:33.000 So yeah. 0.98

00:16:34.000 So incompetence doesn't necessarily mean, I think some people think it means like stupidity or, but it's, it's really more lack of ability in a particular thing. 0.98

00:16:42.000 You could also have malicious people that are incompetent. 0.98

00:16:44.000 Oh, you can have both.

00:16:45.000 They're not mutually exclusive.

00:16:48.000 They're not mutually exclusive.

00:16:50.000 But if you look around the world and you see the way things are marching in lockstep, that can't be accidental, right?

00:16:57.000 How is it that all these different countries, I mean, look at the Commonwealth countries, how is it all these different countries are doing things which Like literally prior to last year were totally unthinkable.

00:17:09.000 The concept, whether you're even from, from a simple lockdown to something as simple as a mask, like this is unprecedented.

00:17:14.000 When was there ever a mask mandate?

00:17:16.000 When was there ever like lockdown was just prison terminology, right?

00:17:20.000 We've had diseases, we've had vaccines, we've had all these things our entire lives, but all of a sudden it's this and it's that, and it's that, and all these different countries are doing the same thing.

00:17:29.000 There's a couple of things I'll say to that.

00:17:30.000 Are you familiar with the concept of a standalone complex?

00:17:32.000 No, I'm not.

00:17:33.000 So a conspiracy, a group of people coordinate the effort, then take action, and then you'd see a bunch of banks get robbed, and you're like, what is this conspiracy?

00:17:41.000 A standalone complex would be, say, you know, 50 banks get robbed in every state at the same time, and you're like, this must be planned and coordinated.

00:17:49.000 But a standalone complex means that each individual took independent action that just coincided with other similar actions, creating the appearance of a conspiracy.

00:17:56.000 Which can be exacerbated by copycat crimes and things.

00:17:59.000 So if one, especially with social media, if one person makes a bad move in a government, all the other governments are going to be like, hey.

00:18:04.000 Oh yeah.

00:18:05.000 There's definitely a lot of that going.

00:18:06.000 I mean, I don't know if you guys know that the UK was initially going to take the Sweden approach throughout this whole thing.

00:18:11.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 Right.

00:18:12.000 That was the initial plan for the UK.

00:18:13.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.000 So Boris Johnson was not, the UK was never supposed to have lockdowns and mask mandates, all of that.

00:18:19.000 And then specifically, there was a lot of pressure from certain people in the media put on Boris Johnson.

00:18:25.000 And then if you remember, he himself got hospitalized with COVID.

00:18:28.000 So he got shook.

00:18:29.000 And that was when he flipped.

00:18:31.000 He came out of hospital, and then he started singing a different tune.

00:18:34.000 Let me say one more thing, too, and the country's all doing the same thing.

00:18:39.000 If you take away someone's knowledge of freedom, then they won't understand what freedom is.

00:18:45.000 I'll give you a chicken example, right?

00:18:46.000 So we got these baby chickens.

00:18:48.000 I gave it a stink bug, and they just stare at it all confused.

00:18:50.000 And I'm like, yo, your chickens eat the stink bug.

00:18:52.000 But they don't know.

00:18:52.000 No one's taught them, right?

00:18:54.000 So when all of these countries do the same thing, it's because they sit there and they watch one country do something, and they go, do what they did.

00:19:03.000 So, you know, often when it comes to chickens, I'll throw in some food objects they've never seen before, and the seven outside will come and look at it, and then one will eat it, and then as soon as they do, everyone then's like, oh, okay, I can eat this.

00:19:15.000 So probably a better example is business.

00:19:18.000 As we're growing TimCast.com and hiring more people, we're running into these bureaucratic problems, and we're running into just general issues with running a business, and then it turns out the solutions are exactly what the infrastructure has provided.

00:19:31.000 Like, why are there services that provide HR services?

00:19:34.000 It's like, oh, because we encountered this issue, and that's why all the businesses do things this way.

00:19:40.000 So I don't necessarily think it's a conspiracy or anything like that, or not to imply that you were saying it was.

00:19:44.000 But to see all these countries doing the same thing, I think it's two things.

00:19:47.000 One, they have no idea what they're doing, so they're simply like, I don't know, do what they did.

00:19:51.000 And the other thing is, you know, well, I guess that's basically it, right?

00:19:55.000 If they can't perceive of how to deal with this, then they just absolve themselves of responsibility, do what everyone has done elsewhere, because then they can act like they're doing something.

00:20:04.000 Because you'll often hear from many on the left saying, well, we can't do nothing, when in reality, nothing is often the right thing to do.

00:20:10.000 Absolutely.

00:20:11.000 Absolutely.

00:20:12.000 I think people have forgotten that an overreaction can be just as bad or even more deadly than an underreaction or no reaction at all.

00:20:21.000 And I've been screaming for a long time that the consequences of the response are more severe than the consequences of the initial threat.

00:20:33.000 I still maintain that position.

00:20:35.000 I don't know exactly how you'd be able to calculate the total harm and deaths caused by all this, but these things have long-term repercussions.

00:20:43.000 I mean, if you remember back to the financial crisis in 2008, There's still repercussions from what happened 13 years ago.

00:20:52.000 That's what happened.

00:20:53.000 And it would be extraordinarily hard to quantify the amount of harm and pain and problems that have come from that.

00:21:03.000 But I think this is the same thing.

00:21:05.000 I think literally 10 years from now, you're still going to have issues which originated, again, not because of the virus itself, but because of the response to it, whether or not That is intentional or that is a matter of incompetence or some combination.

00:21:22.000 I got people to decide.

00:21:23.000 I got a story for you, my friend.

00:21:25.000 Let's go.

00:21:25.000 Let's talk about the future.

00:21:27.000 OK.

00:21:27.000 From New York, NBC, New York Hospital won't deliver babies after unvaccinated staff quit.

00:21:35.000 Six maternity staff members resigned from Lewis County General Hospital during the past week, worsening an existing staff shortage.

00:21:41.000 So you've got a labor shortage, then they do the mandates, then more people quit, now they can't deliver babies. 1.00

00:21:47.000 So let's hit on the point you're making.

00:21:49.000 First, this is what happens with the mandates.

00:21:52.000 People are like, I won't do it, I'm gone.

00:21:54.000 You want to talk about the future?

00:21:56.000 These babies, where will they be born?

00:21:58.000 They'll be born!

00:21:58.000 And they're going to be born in different circumstances.

00:22:01.000 This will have a profound impact on this country for 40, 70 years.

00:22:07.000 So I take a look now, we were talking about this the other day, about these young democratic socialist types, these Gen Zers, who are in their 20s and they're socialists.

00:22:15.000 And they don't care to interact in good faith on Twitter.

00:22:19.000 They'll say something like pronouns in the bio, right?

00:22:22.000 Is that Zuby's razor?

00:22:23.000 Zuby's razor, yeah.

00:22:24.000 If there's pronouns in the bio, just ignore it.

00:22:27.000 Well, so I've tried in good faith interacting with people, and they'll say something inflammatory.

00:22:32.000 I'll respond with a simple point, not inflammatory, and then they'll respond with derision and insults.

00:22:37.000 And you know what I think is that these are the kids of the 2008 financial crisis.

00:22:41.000 They were kids growing up at a time when their parents were hurting, and then as they get older, and millennials also, a lot of them, you live in this nightmare dystopia of financial crises and warped values, celebrities ultra-rich for, you know, photoshopping their faces on Instagram.

00:22:59.000 What values do you hold?

00:23:01.000 And now they're voting for people like Joe Biden.

00:23:03.000 Why?

00:23:04.000 Because it's funny.

00:23:05.000 You know, everything they said about Trump and Trump supporters is them.

00:23:09.000 Voting for Joe Biden was the right thing to do because Trump was bad.

00:23:12.000 But they accused Trump supporters of voting for Trump because it was a troll or it was a game.

00:23:17.000 What we have now is a generation of people who don't care about the outcomes, don't have strong moral values, Generally don't care other than, you know, I don't know.

00:23:26.000 Is it gonna be funny?

00:23:26.000 Am I gonna troll somebody?

00:23:27.000 Am I gonna watch the world burn or whatever?

00:23:30.000 They call that opportunity cost.

00:23:31.000 The cost of what you don't do because of what you did.

00:23:35.000 Like if you choose to do this, all these other things that you didn't do have a cost because you could have made money or made things from all those things that you didn't do.

00:23:42.000 The opportunity cost of the war in Iraq is now we have psychotic people walking around that think it's normal to be at war.

00:23:47.000 We have the financial crisis.

00:23:49.000 Kids stressed out because their parents are stressed out.

00:23:51.000 They creating to imagine that growing up imagine growing up with like a leave it to beaver family You know you walk in and there's a big stack of pancakes and bacon and they're like go to school and work hard son You're like, oh joy and your problems were mostly like interpersonal issues, but not my family lost their house We're struggling.

00:24:10.000 There's homeless people everywhere now.

00:24:12.000 Take a look at the kids being born today and Yikes, man.

00:24:15.000 Fourth turning, right?

00:24:17.000 Maybe hard times will make strong men and then we'll get a boom period in the next 20 years.

00:24:22.000 Or maybe you're going to have a bunch of dejected, angry, dystopian babies who just want to watch the world burn, man.

00:24:30.000 A generation of jokers.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, I think a big problem as well, and I touch on this a lot, is I always say that in the modern West, there's something that a lot of people lack and those two things are perspective and gratitude.

00:24:44.000 Right?

00:24:44.000 Because I was kind of having this conversation with Lydia earlier, which is that It's simultaneously true that things are going crazy and it's kind of scary and this is getting worse and that's getting worse and this is bad.

00:24:58.000 But when you kind of zoom out on a historical level or on a global level, you're still like, man, we live in, we live on some, in some fantasy island.

00:25:07.000 I mean, just what we're doing right here is magical.

00:25:10.000 Any of our ancestors would just see this.

00:25:12.000 They'll be like, wait, they'll be like, wait.

00:25:13.000 How is my great-great-grandson earning a living and making money?

00:25:17.000 He's doing what?

00:25:18.000 He's talking on the internet.

00:25:21.000 What are you doing?

00:25:22.000 Microphone.

00:25:23.000 Like the whole thing we're doing.

00:25:24.000 Writing on parchment and sending it overseas by boat.

00:25:27.000 Yeah, and there's so much opportunity.

00:25:29.000 We all know we're all online people.

00:25:31.000 We can see the sheer amount of opportunity that's out there as well.

00:25:36.000 Phenomenal, like what I do for a living, what you do for a living, even just a couple decades ago, even 15 years ago, it wouldn't have been able to be possible in the way that it is now.

00:25:45.000 So we live in this weird, there's this weird, I don't know the right word, juxtaposition Where simultaneously it's like, oh man, like this is really worrying.

00:25:57.000 There's this moral decay.

00:25:58.000 There's this cultural malaise.

00:26:01.000 People are giving up their freedoms.

00:26:03.000 People are wanting to embrace radical ideas and cause this division and whatever.

00:26:07.000 But then on the flip side, you're also like, man, compared to previous decades and previous centuries, Things are amazing and you look around the world and it's like, oh wow, actually, you know, where would you rather be?

00:26:19.000 You get all these people mad, the USA, blah blah blah.

00:26:21.000 It's like, okay, well, where do you want to move to?

00:26:23.000 Who is that comedian who was cranking in front of all those women he got in trouble for?

00:26:27.000 Louis CK?

00:26:27.000 Louis CK, that's right, yeah.

00:26:29.000 I'm pretty sure it's him.

00:26:30.000 He has this bit where he's like, why is everybody so pissed off?

00:26:33.000 Everything's amazing!

00:26:34.000 You got this thing in your phone, it can show you whatever you want, and people are complaining.

00:26:39.000 And you know what?

00:26:40.000 It was a great bit.

00:26:41.000 And I think someone needed to just tell him about the rat utopia experiment and behavioral sync.

00:26:47.000 Are you familiar with the rat utopia experiment?

00:26:49.000 I am.

00:26:50.000 Reiterate it for me.

00:26:51.000 Simple is, uh, Simple Version is, uh, this dude created this space where he put, I think he put in like eight rats or whatever, gave them unlimited food and water, and just, that's it.

00:27:00.000 They had a utopia.

00:27:02.000 And then after a few generations, they started fighting each other, killing each other.

00:27:06.000 They started eating each other, yeah.

00:27:08.000 They, some, some stopped reproducing altogether.

00:27:10.000 There was some, I think it was the, I think eventually it became the rat experiment.

00:27:14.000 Some were called the beautiful ones.

00:27:15.000 They would groom themselves to perfection and do nothing else. 0.96

00:27:18.000 Some became gay.

00:27:20.000 And so this was the concept he called behavioral sync.

00:27:23.000 Now the problem is, this is really fascinating, we had Shane, who's writing for our Mysteries show, and he does articles on the site, talked to Brett Weinstein about this.

00:27:31.000 And Brett said that one of the problems with laboratory mice is they don't inherit information like wild mice and rats do.

00:27:39.000 Every species inherits some kind of knowledge from their parent.

00:27:42.000 Like I mentioned earlier, I got these baby chickens that are completely raised by humans and they don't know to eat bugs.

00:27:48.000 But if the babies are raised by the parent chicken, the parent shows them to eat bugs.

00:27:52.000 So they're not getting access to that information.

00:27:54.000 So it'll be interesting to see.

00:27:56.000 I think we're experiencing some kind of behavioral sync where we've gotten to the point where everything is so good That we've just lost perspective.

00:28:05.000 Yeah.

00:28:05.000 There's no struggle anymore.

00:28:06.000 We need resistance.

00:28:07.000 Resistance is a natural part of reality, where if a tree doesn't have wind resistance, it falls over.

00:28:12.000 And if we don't have external resistance, the internal starts to resist itself.

00:28:16.000 Because we need resistance.

00:28:17.000 That's why working out is so good.

00:28:18.000 You need to force trauma on yourself more than it will be forced upon.

00:28:21.000 Yeah.

00:28:22.000 And that's so interesting.

00:28:23.000 I mean, you have to, if you live in a country like the US, UK, Canada, and you know, and you're just decently well off, you literally have to go out of your way.

00:28:33.000 If you want to be strong and resilient, both mentally and physically, you have to deliberately go out of your way to create hardship.

00:28:40.000 Right?

00:28:40.000 Like I'm really into weightlifting, powerlifting, bodybuilding and stuff.

00:28:43.000 It's like, and sometimes I laugh at the concept.

00:28:47.000 Cause I'm like, I'm literally artificially doing stuff that previous generations or ancestors, like the concept of this would be silly to them.

00:28:57.000 And you have to do that because if you don't, just your day-to-day life is so sedentary and so inactive that your body is going to go to crap if you don't actually create that intentional hardship.

00:29:14.000 And I think like, I mean, if again, if you think of human beings, it's so recent, and it's only in a certain part of the world so far where you can even where you even have this luxury, right?

00:29:26.000 All of our ancestors just just to survive, right?

00:29:29.000 Like, what do we do if we get hungry?

00:29:32.000 You open a fridge or you walk across the street or you tap a button on your phone, whatever.

00:29:36.000 It's something that just comes and feeds you.

00:29:37.000 You can get all these exotic foods from different parts of the world.

00:29:41.000 In the past, or even in other countries, it's like, you're hungry.

00:29:43.000 Okay.

00:29:44.000 You got to, you got to farm, you got to pull out some vegetables, or you got to go hunt an animal, chase.

00:29:48.000 I'm sure you've probably seen these documentaries where people are like chasing one animal for like 12 hours or something, and then they kill it.

00:29:54.000 And I'm just like, that's more close actually to the human norm than the way that we live.

00:29:59.000 True.

00:29:59.000 Do you ever see or ever read or see the Watchmen story, Watchmen graphic novel or movie?

00:30:05.000 I saw the movie.

00:30:06.000 So like Dr. Manhattan can see through time, like he can he perceives time differently from humans.

00:30:11.000 It's like nonlinear. And then there's that that point where at the end, when he's confronting the villain, you know,

00:30:17.000 there was a he was the villain was using tachyons to obscure Dr.

00:30:20.000 Manhattan's vision of the future.

00:30:21.000 And then he says, you know, I want to thank you.

00:30:23.000 I've almost lost the joy of not knowing or I forgot the joy of not knowing.

00:30:27.000 And I'm like, that idea right there.

00:30:30.000 There used to be a time where you'd grow up, not even that long ago, 100 years maybe,

00:30:34.000 and you'd be like, I heard about in this one island, they have food, it's made of snails,

00:30:41.000 and they take it and they put it in oil, and you're like, whoa, I wanna try that.

00:30:46.000 And so you charter a boat, and it takes three months and you arrive,

00:30:49.000 and everything's different, and all the clothes are different,

00:30:52.000 all the food's different, and you're like, wow.

00:30:54.000 And they look at you and they're like, And you're like, wow.

00:30:57.000 And you can go from Europe into like East Asia where everything's different.

00:31:00.000 It's still kind of like that.

00:31:02.000 Except when you get off the plane nowadays, what do you see?

00:31:04.000 Oh, McDonald's.

00:31:05.000 McDonald's, Starbucks, Gucci, Hard Rock Cafe.

00:31:08.000 Dollar, dollar, dollar.

00:31:09.000 Homogenization is stripping away.

00:31:12.000 You know what?

00:31:13.000 Fine.

00:31:13.000 You want to do all that?

00:31:14.000 Then give me interstellar travel so I can go experience something new.

00:31:17.000 We got video games.

00:31:18.000 And that's kind of part of, also part of the problem is people are going in to the mind and playing all these games to create trauma and like, exert effort and things.

00:31:26.000 And I don't know, man, I think a lot of that might be tweaking people.

00:31:28.000 I think that's also why, you know, this this is, I have no scientific background on this particular idea, but I have a kind of hypothesis, which is that there's a level of let's say anxiety.

00:31:44.000 There's a level of anxiety that typically is deployed just in being able to survive being able to get food and fight against the elements and fight against disease, you know potential physical violence all of that which If you're living in a hard place or in a hard time, naturally gets expended bit by bit on a daily basis.

00:32:06.000 And I think that part of the reason why you're seeing rises in even mental health issues and people saying, you know, I'm anxious, I'm depressed, all of this stuff.

00:32:15.000 I think some of it stems from this energy or this anxiety building up and not being dissipated anywhere.

00:32:22.000 I think it's also why minor threats get so exaggerated, right?

00:32:28.000 Whether you're talking about the words or violence brigade, we need space spaces and

00:32:32.000 trigger warnings and you know, and if you, what happens if you misgender somebody, what

00:32:36.000 do they say?

00:32:37.000 You got banned for it.

00:32:38.000 You're, you're right.

00:32:39.000 But what they say, you're denying my existence.

00:32:41.000 You're trying to erase me, right?

00:32:42.000 It becomes like, it's like, whoa, like that's such a, such an extreme response to such a

00:32:48.000 minor, minor transgression.

00:32:51.000 I mean, look at how we're responding to this particular virus.

00:32:55.000 We know what the survival rates are in different demographics, okay?

00:32:58.000 But the response, if you were looking at this response, you would think that the death rate was like, 20 percent, 30 percent.

00:33:08.000 Right?

00:33:09.000 If that were it, then you'd be like, OK, this makes sense.

00:33:11.000 Have you seen the polls of what Democrats think the death rate is?

00:33:13.000 They think it's ridiculously high.

00:33:15.000 There's some people who think that, you know, there's a 50 percent chance, you know, you get you get the Rona and you're getting hospitalized no matter how old you are.

00:33:21.000 You've got people running around saying, you know, I'm terrified.

00:33:24.000 I don't think it's safe for kids to go back to school.

00:33:27.000 All of that.

00:33:27.000 And I'm like, man, statistically, the flu is two to four times more dangerous and deadly to children than this virus, and nobody is freaking out about the flu.

00:33:40.000 Nobody did freak out about the flu, and it's literally more deadly.

00:33:43.000 Well, to be fair, the issue with coronavirus, with COVID, was the novel, meaning that with the flu, there's different levels of immunity among different populations.

00:33:54.000 So this is why the flu pandemic of 1918 didn't affect China as much, because they had previously been hit by a similar strain.

00:34:00.000 So when it came back around more deadly, they had some degree of herd immunity.

00:34:04.000 With COVID, the fear is it's going to rapidly mutate.

00:34:07.000 It's going to infect everybody to varying degrees.

00:34:10.000 Might not be as dangerous for kids, but it could infect other people because it's going to sweep across, you know, hit more people.

00:34:15.000 So we do see, I guess it's a fair point that in kids, we don't see the level of risk.

00:34:21.000 Ultimately, I think the problem is whether or not you go through the data and you look at, you know, I think the death rate for COVID is like double what the flu is.

00:34:31.000 Overall, you mean?

00:34:32.000 Overall.

00:34:32.000 Right, right.

00:34:32.000 Not for kids.

00:34:34.000 But the flu, it's still similar with older people.

00:34:36.000 Older people are substantially more susceptible to the flu than younger people.

00:34:39.000 The issue ultimately is that we learn to live with the flu.

00:34:43.000 We look at the CDC study that says there's 80% immunity, I think, and we should accept that at this point and be like, okay, so we got something that's bad.

00:34:50.000 It's worse than the flu, but we're not changing it, right?

00:34:53.000 So how about we protect the vulnerable, like we've been saying for over a year, We got the vaccine available.

00:34:58.000 80% of people have some level of immunity, CDC says, and mostly based on the vaccine.

00:35:02.000 It sounds like we did what we could do.

00:35:04.000 And that's why I was saying earlier, maybe at this point, nothing is actually what you need to do.

00:35:09.000 At this point, we need to accept like... Just get back to normal life, man.

00:35:12.000 You know, take people, have their, can do their own individual risk analysis.

00:35:16.000 I've been saying this from day one.

00:35:19.000 Right?

00:35:19.000 I don't know each person's individual situation and family situation better than they do.

00:35:26.000 Right?

00:35:26.000 There's been this weird notion of absolute strangers suddenly pretending that they care more about you and they care more about your parents and they care more about your grandma and your family than you do, which is utterly absurd.

00:35:36.000 These politicians don't care. 0.98

00:35:37.000 They don't even know your name.

00:35:39.000 They don't know who you are, let alone like your family. 1.00

00:35:41.000 When these people on Twitter refer to the unvaccinated as plague rats, and when they say things like, you're stupid, you're a moron, and they cheer for people like Joe Rogan getting sick, you think I'm supposed to- I'm gonna believe they care about me or anybody else? 1.00

00:35:57.000 No, they don't. 1.00

00:35:57.000 Now they're coming out and straight up saying, you know, like, people should be denied healthcare. 1.00

00:36:01.000 Yep.

00:36:01.000 I think they are panicking.

00:36:02.000 You made a pretty profound point a minute ago when you were saying that it's like genetically we're used to this anxiety daily of surviving and now that there's no, it's like, wait, I'm supposed to be anxious about something.

00:36:12.000 It builds up.

00:36:13.000 And these people are, I mean, what else?

00:36:18.000 They feel like they are winning.

00:36:21.000 They're doing something to succeed by this.

00:36:23.000 It's something, you know, but maybe it is to do nothing.

00:36:26.000 I think you're right, Ian, and I think that one of the things that we're hugely lacking in the West, because we are so very lucky, like you were saying, is any kind of challenge.

00:36:34.000 And Zuby and I, on the way down here, we're talking about the men who fought in World War I and World War II.

00:36:39.000 They're a different kind of person.

00:36:41.000 We have had no such challenges like they had, and it's made us weak.

00:36:45.000 It's made us afraid of things like words.

00:36:48.000 It's made us angry when we don't have our conveniences.

00:36:51.000 And I think that's probably the root cause of all of this fear of COVID.

00:36:56.000 It's just inconvenient and scary.

00:36:58.000 And I was saying to Lydia in that conversation, something that is going on now, and this is

00:37:02.000 again, this has been happening for a couple of decades, which is that instead of trying

00:37:05.000 to make individuals stronger and more resilient and encouraging them to be, they just try

00:37:10.000 to nerf the whole world.

00:37:12.000 So instead of saying, you know what, so take the madness that's been going on in universities

00:37:17.000 for the past decade with safe spaces and trigger warnings and deplatforming speakers and this

00:37:22.000 and that, right?

00:37:23.000 The message should be, look, guys, you've got to grow up.

00:37:25.000 You gotta live in the world.

00:37:26.000 Some stuff is gonna offend you.

00:37:28.000 You're gonna meet people you disagree with.

00:37:29.000 You're gonna come across stuff that are like, and it might be unpleasant.

00:37:33.000 Deal with it.

00:37:34.000 Get stronger.

00:37:34.000 Expose yourself.

00:37:35.000 Deal with it.

00:37:36.000 Instead, it's like, oh no, let's wrap everything in cotton.

00:37:38.000 Anything that could be potentially offensive or potentially harmful, they like that word, you know, push that away.

00:37:45.000 Push that away.

00:37:46.000 Shield them, right?

00:37:47.000 Put them all in a bubble.

00:37:49.000 And then of course, when you put those people out into the real world where they're no longer protected like that, It's like an immune system, right?

00:37:55.000 They haven't built up that immune system.

00:37:57.000 So when the slightest challenge comes out, they break down and they flip out and they scream and they call names.

00:38:04.000 And it's almost like dealing with children.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, dealing with authority.

00:38:07.000 It's time for one of Tim's famous anecdotes to explain the situation.

00:38:11.000 So when I went on Rogan's podcast last year when COVID, I think it was like March, drove across country.

00:38:17.000 I had to get a COVID test because Joe tests everybody.

00:38:21.000 And so what they do is they take some of your blood from your finger.

00:38:24.000 The lady was trying to use those little clicker things. 1.00

00:38:26.000 It's like a little red thing and they put it on your finger and they click it.

00:38:29.000 She couldn't get it through my calluses because I play guitar.

00:38:32.000 And so that's the example I'm using for a lot of these people in these colleges, a lot of these leftists.

00:38:37.000 The reason they're freaking out and turning, like you mentioned, like microaggressions into you're erasing my existence.

00:38:43.000 Is they are, they are so pink and, and, and soft that if they stepped out into the light, they would immediately, their skin would just start burning in the sun.

00:38:53.000 Yep.

00:38:53.000 They've not built up any resilience.

00:38:56.000 No.

00:38:56.000 So they're, they're just, they want everyone else to.

00:39:00.000 Cater to their weakness.

00:39:02.000 Right.

00:39:02.000 Instead of them... Look, if you want to play the guitar, you play, you get blisters on your fingers.

00:39:08.000 Rock stars will play until their fingers will bleed.

00:39:10.000 Imagine these people playing shows.

00:39:11.000 They'd be like, just pre-program it for me because my fingers are soft and they hurt.

00:39:15.000 I ripped the F out of my thumb a couple nights ago playing the drums.

00:39:17.000 That was awesome.

00:39:18.000 Think about that concept of a micro-aggression.

00:39:21.000 In a society with macroaggressions, nobody is concerned about microaggressions.

00:39:26.000 Go to any place in the world where people are actually suffering and striving for any type of survival.

00:39:31.000 Do you think they're worried about microaggressions?

00:39:34.000 You wouldn't even be able to explain the concept to them.

00:39:36.000 What are you even talking about? 0.99

00:39:41.000 Forget your nonsense. 0.95

00:39:41.000 I've got stuff to deal with. 0.95

00:39:43.000 I'm trying to feed my family.

00:39:44.000 I'm trying to live out here.

00:39:46.000 You're worried about microaggressions.

00:39:48.000 And like, give us an example, a good example of microaggression for people who aren't familiar.

00:39:54.000 Somebody, somebody asking me where I'm really from.

00:39:59.000 Right?

00:39:59.000 So if someone asked me where I'm from, and I'm like, I'm English.

00:40:02.000 And they're like, Oh, where are you really from?

00:40:04.000 England.

00:40:04.000 Right?

00:40:05.000 So that would be a microaggression.

00:40:07.000 Or even somebody telling me that I'm articulate or that I speak well, could be considered a microaggression.

00:40:12.000 I'd be like, how?

00:40:13.000 Right?

00:40:14.000 To me, that's a compliment.

00:40:14.000 Thank you.

00:40:15.000 There was this viral video a long time ago where it was like an Asian woman jogging and then she like stops to stretch and there's like a white guy and they start talking and then he's like, so where are you from?

00:40:28.000 And she goes, San Francisco.

00:40:29.000 And he goes, I mean, like, where are you from?

00:40:32.000 And she's like, My parents are from Korea.

00:40:35.000 But the funny thing is, like, considering I'm not a dick, when someone asks me, I know they're not implying I can't be a real American with some, like... That's the implication. 0.79

00:40:45.000 Like, you can't be an Englishman because you're black. 1.00

00:40:48.000 That's not what they're asking.

00:40:49.000 They're just using an informal way to be like, what's your ethnic background?

00:40:52.000 You know, where do your ancestors hail from?

00:40:54.000 Yeah, and they could phrase it that way, but I'm clearly not an Anglo-Saxon, so if someone asked me that question, the notion that I'd be deeply offended and then go write some Twitter thread about what happened, as if I got assaulted or something.

00:41:15.000 Call the cops.

00:41:17.000 Honestly, it's embarrassing.

00:41:18.000 And again, this is what's been happening again over the past year and a half is people now have this inverted notion that everybody else is responsible for your health.

00:41:27.000 That's not the case.

00:41:27.000 It's never been the case.

00:41:29.000 It's never been the case.

00:41:30.000 You are responsible for your own health.

00:41:32.000 Does someone else have a right to intentionally assault you or like try to give you a disease or something?

00:41:37.000 No, that's a different thing.

00:41:39.000 Go ahead.

00:41:39.000 Not in California.

00:41:41.000 In California they decriminalize that.

00:41:43.000 That's so weird.

00:41:44.000 Intentional spreading of a disease is decriminalized.

00:41:46.000 Is it just HIV or is it all of them?

00:41:48.000 I'm not sure.

00:41:49.000 I know HIV was like the big story where they were like, okay, if someone intentionally spreads it, we're not going to criminalize it.

00:41:55.000 California is backwards, man.

00:41:56.000 California is so weird because it's such a beautiful place. 1.00

00:42:00.000 It's such a beautiful part of the world, wonderful weather and so on, but it's run by idiots. 1.00

00:42:05.000 Like I can't even put it, I can't mince my words. 1.00

00:42:08.000 The state and a lot of the cities are just run by morons. 1.00

00:42:11.000 But is it incompetence at this point? 1.00

00:42:14.000 They have a poop department.

00:42:15.000 No, no, no.

00:42:16.000 The copper industry is obsessively keeping those wires all running through the forests in California that are lighting the wildfire.

00:42:22.000 I mean, it is intentional that they are living in a 20th century infrastructure with 21st century mindsets.

00:42:27.000 Here's the thing. 1.00

00:42:29.000 There comes a point where it doesn't actually matter whether it's malice or stupidity. 0.95

00:42:32.000 If you can't tell the difference based on the results, Then I would say there are certain situations where it actually, it doesn't matter because the result, the result is the, is the result, right? 0.98

00:42:41.000 So if you cause that, whether it's, whether you tried to, or you're just so dumb that it led to this, like if you're talking forest, these forest fires, or you're talking like the mass homelessness problems or whatever it is, I'm like, you know what?

00:42:54.000 It doesn't matter.

00:42:55.000 Cause this is the situation and the situation needs to be fixed.

00:42:58.000 So either way, whether you're just incompetent or you're, or you're malicious, it doesn't matter.

00:43:04.000 Like we need someone else there.

00:43:05.000 I agree, and that's why I support recalling Newsom, and that's why I'm in favor of Larry Elder winning.

00:43:11.000 Not because I'm a conservative.

00:43:13.000 Larry Elder is fairly libertarian, so I can agree with him on a lot of those libertarian principles, even though I'm substantially more left-leaning than him on a lot of issues.

00:43:20.000 But the way I see it is, the system is so corrupt and dominated by a one-party rule across the board, getting anyone in there to challenge the existing broken power structure would be a godsend.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, you need to hold people's feet to the fire, right?

00:43:35.000 People often forget that what their relationship and dynamic between the people and governments, state representatives, federal representatives is supposed to be.

00:43:45.000 It's not supposed to, we're not in a dictatorship or a monarchy, at least we're not supposed to be.

00:43:51.000 It's not just supposed to be we've got you've got Supreme Leader Joe Biden or whoever a governor or mayor is or whatever and everyone just goes with whatever they say they're supposed they're supposed to be representatives and people often forget that we pay we pay their salaries right the politicians are employed By the people.

00:44:11.000 They're not running a business.

00:44:12.000 They're not directly creating any value.

00:44:14.000 They're taxing us and our money is literally going to their salaries.

00:44:19.000 And I think we forget that.

00:44:22.000 And I think certainly they forget that.

00:44:24.000 They get this notion that, oh, I'm actually just like a mini dictator, especially at a time like this, where they keep rolling these emergency powers.

00:44:31.000 And I'm like, look, that's not what the relationship is supposed to be.

00:44:34.000 You see the same issues that can happen sometimes with police as well.

00:44:37.000 Right?

00:44:37.000 Where that relationship is not what it's actually supposed to be, right?

00:44:43.000 The role of a police officer is to, of course, uphold and enforce the law, but it's to serve and protect the community.

00:44:51.000 It's not to threaten them or to assault people or to like bully people around and abuse that power and, you know, okay, I've got my gun, whatever.

00:44:59.000 It's like that's not that's not what that dynamic is supposed to be.

00:45:02.000 So I think I don't know how but I think there should be like constant reminders of what How that relationship is supposed to play out.

00:45:11.000 What's that experiment where they put all those people in and then they created like a hierarchy and they gave some people like they were the guards and then other people?

00:45:17.000 The Stanford Prison Experiment?

00:45:18.000 Oh man, and it went crazy like the guards started just abusing their power.

00:45:22.000 Is that a real true story though?

00:45:24.000 Stanford, yeah, it was done at Stanford University, I believe.

00:45:27.000 Stanford was, I think.

00:45:27.000 It's called that, that's why it's called that.

00:45:28.000 Stanford Milgram Experiment?

00:45:30.000 No, no, no, you're mixing up two.

00:45:31.000 I think the Milgram one is the one with the shocks.

00:45:33.000 That's the one that was fake, yeah.

00:45:34.000 And Stanford Prison one is the one with the guards.

00:45:36.000 Yeah, it's two different experiments.

00:45:38.000 I don't have all the data on what exactly went down, but I heard stuff went sideways.

00:45:42.000 Yeah, people went tyrannical very quickly to the point where, because it was supposed to be a role play, but it got to the stage where, you know, they were actually legitimately abusing people.

00:45:53.000 I love this idea, we hear it from the left very often, where they'll tweet at you and say something like, you would have been on the side of the Confederates, or you would have been on the side of the Nazis, and all that stuff, and I'm like, there's this teacher who tells this story where he asks his students, how many of you in this classroom would believe you would have opposed slavery in the United States, you know, pre-Civil War in America?

00:46:13.000 And they all raise their hands.

00:46:15.000 And he said, okay, now name something right now that you will publicly announce that is deeply unpopular and get you ostracized by mainstream society.

00:46:23.000 And of course they don't.

00:46:25.000 They're all good little followers.

00:46:27.000 And the point he was making is that, you know, in hindsight we can look back and be like, oh, of course we're the good guys.

00:46:32.000 But the fact is it's typically the dissidents, the critical thinkers, Who are challenging the system.

00:46:38.000 And today, that's not the establishment left or the neocon, you know, never-Trumper types.

00:46:44.000 It is typically some of the Bernie people.

00:46:47.000 Many of them are just towing the line for the establishment left, though.

00:46:50.000 But a lot of the MAGA, a lot of the conservatives, a lot of the disaffected liberals, the intellectual dark web types that are thinking critically.

00:46:57.000 Yes.

00:46:57.000 Most people wouldn't, man.

00:46:58.000 Most people are afraid to even use their real name and post their opinions on social media.

00:47:02.000 and you'd be some rebellious hero?

00:47:04.000 Most people would, man.

00:47:06.000 Most people are afraid to even use their real name and post their opinions on social media.

00:47:09.000 Oh, I saw you post earlier today how great your life can become if you expose yourself

00:47:13.000 online and become yourself.

00:47:14.000 Yeah, I was just saying that people miss a lot of opportunities by not doing so.

00:47:18.000 And I mean, I think it's a shame that so many people live in constant fear.

00:47:23.000 And people really, really get upset when I use the word cowardice.

00:47:26.000 But we do have a pandemic of cowardice.

00:47:29.000 We really do.

00:47:31.000 We're doing jazz hands over here.

00:47:33.000 I agree with you.

00:47:34.000 I always feel kind of weird when, one of the things I hear most, and to me it's kind of bittersweet, is when people call me brave.

00:47:41.000 When people are like, man, Zuby, you're so brave, you speak up, you do it.

00:47:45.000 I'm like, dude, I just say stuff.

00:47:47.000 I talk.

00:47:48.000 When I think of courage and bravery right if I'm looking at people people in the military going and fighting on the front lines literally putting their life at risk a fireman running into a burning building to go I'm like man that's like scary like that's actually risking your life I'm like man I say stuff on Twitter I make music I talk on podcasts I do public I'm like dude Like, okay, cool, thanks, thank you in a way, but at the same time I'm like, man, I wish this shouldn't be that rare.

00:48:16.000 Right.

00:48:17.000 It shouldn't be that rare.

00:48:18.000 I want to shout out a handful of people.

00:48:20.000 We got this story from TimCast.com.

00:48:22.000 Comedian Jim Brewer cancels shows at theaters demanding proof of vaccination.

00:48:27.000 The Saturday Night Live star Jim Brewer canceled his concerts, well, concerts, he's a comedian, at venues across the U.S.

00:48:32.000 that require proof of vaccination before entry, becoming the latest celebrity to protest vaccine passports in cities like New York.

00:48:40.000 Two quick updates on shows that you may think you may be getting tickets to or have already have tickets to, the Wellmont Theater in New Jersey, not doing it.

00:48:48.000 Also, the Royal Oak Theater in Michigan, due to the segregation of them forcing people to show up with vaccinations, I am also not doing those shows, added a 54-year-old comic.

00:48:57.000 I know I'm going to sacrifice a lot of money, but I'm not going to be enslaved to the system or money.

00:49:02.000 Good.

00:49:02.000 There's a lot of comedians that won't do that.

00:49:04.000 There's a lot of performers who won't do that.

00:49:06.000 There's a lot of people who are just absolutely marching in line with these mandates because, well, there's money to be made.

00:49:12.000 So let's talk about bravery.

00:49:13.000 So you were just mentioning that, you know, people call you brave.

00:49:16.000 I think what he's doing is brave.

00:49:18.000 And we'll talk about some of these other comedians in a second.

00:49:20.000 But you were saying like, oh, come on, I just talk online and stuff, right?

00:49:23.000 Let's be real, though.

00:49:24.000 In the event that you get cancelled, meaning like your bank shuts you down, like hardcore, like they've done to some of these people, are you going to be able to get a job at a regular place?

00:49:33.000 Wouldn't want one.

00:49:34.000 But yeah, actually yes I would.

00:49:35.000 You think you'd be able to?

00:49:36.000 Yes I do, absolutely.

00:49:37.000 I'm a very competent person.

00:49:38.000 But it's not about competence, it's about being a pariah.

00:49:41.000 It's about them being like, look, you know, I'm a fan, but we can't deal with the harassment.

00:49:46.000 Antifa would show up.

00:49:47.000 See, this is further cowardice.

00:49:50.000 It's cowardice at every level.

00:49:51.000 It's cowardice at the employer level.

00:49:53.000 It's cowardice at the employee level.

00:49:55.000 I agree.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, this is the thing.

00:49:57.000 So I've said before that cancel culture only works in coordination with cowardice culture.

00:50:02.000 Yes.

00:50:02.000 Right?

00:50:03.000 If people were a bit more bold and brave and willing to stand up for themselves and stand by their co-workers, their colleagues, their employees, whatever, you know, you're a business owner.

00:50:12.000 Right.

00:50:13.000 You have people who work for you.

00:50:15.000 Right.

00:50:15.000 So if one of your employees, you know, start, if people started messaging you saying, Oh, this guy who works for, you know, I don't like his tweet or whatever.

00:50:25.000 You'll be like, you probably won't respond, but at best you'll be like, whatever, you'll stand by your person.

00:50:30.000 And then they're impotent.

00:50:32.000 They can't do anything else.

00:50:34.000 It's like, okay.

00:50:34.000 I would say it's not so simple.

00:50:38.000 Most people might assume like, oh, we're here, great defenders that would never falter in the face of cancel culture.

00:50:45.000 I mean, let's be real though.

00:50:46.000 Like you can't go on Tucker Carlson's show and say a bunch of swears and racist things.

00:50:49.000 I use him as an example because he's like the biggest show.

00:50:51.000 He's mainstream, but he's also fairly counterculture.

00:50:53.000 Like absolutely there are things that employees at my company could do that I'd be like, get out.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, of course.

00:50:59.000 But not these BS microaggressions.

00:51:01.000 None of this.

00:51:01.000 This is what I'm saying, right?

00:51:02.000 I don't think anyone, so the term cancel culture sort of gets misused a lot.

00:51:07.000 Cancel culture doesn't mean that anyone should be able to do anything and there's never any repercussions.

00:51:12.000 Right.

00:51:13.000 No, that's not how, that's not how society works.

00:51:15.000 If someone goes on, it goes on some huge, like white supremacist, racist rant or something.

00:51:20.000 Right.

00:51:20.000 And then they get fired.

00:51:22.000 That's not cancel culture.

00:51:24.000 Okay, but cancel culture is, oh, this person, this person tweeted something in 2011.

00:51:30.000 And we've went and we've dug it up.

00:51:31.000 Oh, he was he was 14 when he tweeted it.

00:51:34.000 And now we're gonna like come after him and people actually cave to that or someone does something which is not even Not even a transgression to any remotely normal and reasonable person.

00:51:45.000 And then, you know, a handful of Twitter people go after them or whatever, and people start caving.

00:51:51.000 So there's certainly levels to it.

00:51:54.000 But the reason I bring up the job thing, like, do you think you get a regular job?

00:51:58.000 that I've already seen it. We've already seen with many people getting fired over fear of,

00:52:03.000 you know, like, oh, someone, you got canceled, you were tweeting things, you lose your job.

00:52:07.000 So there are a lot of people that are afraid to be public figures in that regard. Like,

00:52:11.000 if I speak up, I could lose my job. And so there is, to a certain degree,

00:52:15.000 bravery and being willing to be a forward-facing political figure.

00:52:18.000 I will never get offered another job in establishment media.

00:52:24.000 I worked for Vice. I worked for ABC News Univision. After that company, I got

00:52:29.000 basically courted by a bunch of the New York media establishment, and I ultimately decided to do my own

00:52:33.000 thing. That will never happen again.

00:52:36.000 Because of the things I've covered, because of the things I've said,

00:52:40.000 I actually had a conversation with one of these high-profile guys a few years ago after I'd been running my YouTube channel for a little bit.

00:52:46.000 And I saw him at the airport on the way to Davos, of all places.

00:52:49.000 And he said to me, I'm not sure which side you're on.

00:52:52.000 And I said, telling the truth?

00:52:55.000 And then I asked him, I was like, why won't you call out... I pulled up a specific story that was lies about Trump.

00:52:59.000 And I was like, why don't you guys correct this stuff?

00:53:02.000 Why don't you guys ever call out your colleagues in media?

00:53:04.000 How can we just let it slide?

00:53:06.000 So if you're willing to stand up and say I'm gonna lose money because I care more about my convictions my principles and believing this stuff Yeah, there's a certain bravery to it.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, but I will just say real also there's also For me at least I don't I can't say the same thing for you.

00:53:19.000 Maybe you would agree.

00:53:20.000 There's like kind of an obstinate Personality trait where I'm just like you're not gonna tell me it's America.

00:53:28.000 Oh It's not necessarily contrarian.

00:53:35.000 It's not about being contrarian, like contrarian in the sense where it's just like, if you say something, I'll disagree with you.

00:53:40.000 If you're in the majority, I'll disagree.

00:53:41.000 No, no, no, no.

00:53:42.000 You just have a disagreeable personality?

00:53:43.000 No, no, no, no.

00:53:45.000 I'm saying if I believe it, if I believe it, I'm going to stand by it.

00:53:48.000 If I change my opinion on it, I'll explain.

00:53:50.000 I changed my opinion on it.

00:53:51.000 But if everyone in the country all of a sudden one day starts saying vaccine mandates and I'm like, I disagree.

00:53:57.000 I don't care what the ramifications are.

00:53:58.000 I'm not going to just pretend to agree with it.

00:54:00.000 Yeah.

00:54:01.000 One day in the future, you should rewatch this show and we're all telling you how disagreeable you are.

00:54:04.000 And you're telling us, I'm not disagreeing with us.

00:54:06.000 It'll be funny.

00:54:07.000 Yeah.

00:54:08.000 But that's, that's, that's like a, it's a good trait for a lot of people.

00:54:10.000 Disagreeableness is a powerful trait.

00:54:12.000 I know, but, but that's, but, but that's not the point I'm making.

00:54:15.000 It's the principle.

00:54:16.000 Like the point I'm making is that.

00:54:18.000 I can agree with someone.

00:54:19.000 If someone comes in and they're like, I think, you know, everyone should have guns.

00:54:21.000 I'll be like, I agree.

00:54:22.000 Two years ago, I didn't agree.

00:54:23.000 But I changed my opinion after being informed.

00:54:25.000 Convicted.

00:54:26.000 Maybe you have conviction.

00:54:27.000 Right.

00:54:27.000 The point is, there are a lot of people who are perhaps agreeable or disagreeable.

00:54:31.000 The point is, it's not about being disagreeable.

00:54:34.000 Like, I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing because I don't like you.

00:54:37.000 That's tribalism, where they're just like, Biden should win because Trump is bad.

00:54:41.000 I'm like, no, Biden should win if Biden's got good policies, but Biden will sleep

00:54:45.000 on the job.

00:54:45.000 When he's saying disagreeableness, he means like specifically as like the big

00:54:48.000 five personalities.

00:54:49.000 Yes.

00:54:49.000 Yeah.

00:54:49.000 Jordan Peterson.

00:54:50.000 No, no, no.

00:54:50.000 Okay.

00:54:51.000 Yeah.

00:54:51.000 So like just, yeah, being able to stick up for yourself and being willing not to

00:54:56.000 just always go with the herd.

00:54:58.000 Cause this is the thing, like human beings, we, we are individuals and.

00:55:03.000 And I think society sort of, sort of feeds us this line in the West that everyone's really, really individual and unique and special.

00:55:09.000 But the truth is we're also herd animals and the majority of people always want to be in the majority.

00:55:16.000 You are going back and talking about would somebody have fought against slavery or fought against the Nazis, et cetera.

00:55:22.000 The reason why those things were so difficult is because most people.

00:55:29.000 Want to be in the majority to go against the majority on anything?

00:55:35.000 Is potentially risky and scary.

00:55:37.000 And you can understand that because we're hardwired to be in tribes.

00:55:41.000 So risking any form of social ostracization, um, could have been deadly in the past.

00:55:48.000 Now it's not so much deadly, but there's still potential real repercussions of that.

00:55:53.000 And it's, it's that that people fear.

00:55:55.000 It's not that they are afraid to speak in itself.

00:55:59.000 It's just simply that concern.

00:56:01.000 What are, what are other people going to think?

00:56:04.000 Let's talk about these comedians.

00:56:05.000 So, you know, I highlight Jim Brewer, and he's fantastic.

00:56:09.000 He's had very anti-woke bits.

00:56:11.000 I think it was Jim Brewer had this bit about his daughter going to college and hating him.

00:56:16.000 He's great.

00:56:16.000 Patriarchy, patriarchy!

00:56:18.000 Yes, yes, he's awesome.

00:56:20.000 So he's like, I'm not gonna do the shows.

00:56:22.000 Patton Oswalt did the opposite.

00:56:24.000 He told the venues, you have to, and they said no, so he was like, well then I'm pulling out.

00:56:29.000 Well, then we have the in-between.

00:56:31.000 You have Joe Rogan and you have Tim Dillon.

00:56:34.000 And I got into Twitter, you know, Twitter back and forth with Tim Dillon on this one.

00:56:38.000 Hot Tim on Tim action.

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:41.000 So Tim Dillon on his podcast, his latest episode, is him being critical of the federal vaccine mandates.

00:56:47.000 OK.

00:56:47.000 He even criticized it on Twitter, but then said, I'm not going to cancel my shows at these events simply because I disagree.

00:56:55.000 I wouldn't cancel my shows in Texas over the abortion bill passing.

00:56:59.000 To me, that's an excuse.

00:57:00.000 Joe Rogan is going to be performing at Madison Square Garden.

00:57:03.000 He's already sold 13,000 tickets.

00:57:06.000 He booked that before the vaccine mandate.

00:57:08.000 Now he's offering refunds.

00:57:11.000 I don't know the circumstances for Joe.

00:57:13.000 Maybe he's got a very serious and massive contract, and there's a serious liability for him bailing and canceling on the show, so offering refunds is probably a good thing.

00:57:20.000 But I'll still say, based on the information I have, I don't understand why Joe wouldn't cancel that.

00:57:24.000 If he's gonna come out and say the vaccine mandates are bad, if he's gonna, you know, go to the doctor and get prescribed these, you know, alternative treatments or whatever and not be vaccinated, wouldn't you then say, I will not support the system that is forcing regular people to get the vaccine?

00:57:39.000 Like, even if you... In New York City, the vaccine mandate, there's an exemption for performers.

00:57:45.000 If you're a celebrity, you don't gotta get vaccinated.

00:57:48.000 Okay, if you're a low-level guitar player playing at a bar, you also don't gotta get vaccinated.

00:57:52.000 So, you know, I saw Tim Dillon tweeting about this, saying that, like, he called his fans brain-dead.

00:57:59.000 He said, for my more brain-dead fans, I'm not the one mandating anything.

00:58:03.000 It's the venues and the ticket salespeople and the governors blame them.

00:58:08.000 And I'm just like, First of all, you're calling people brain-dead for saying... I mean, I get it, maybe that's his style or whatever, but I'm like, he's already made this thing kind of... He's already coming at people.

00:58:19.000 Because they were tweeting at him saying like, yo, why are you playing these venues?

00:58:22.000 Let's be real.

00:58:23.000 In New York City with the mandate, you can drive a half an hour upstate, find a better venue with no mandate.

00:58:28.000 You can cross the river and find a venue with no mandate.

00:58:30.000 If you want to perform in these places, you're choosing to do so.

00:58:33.000 It sounds to me like he's just making excuses for wanting to perform at bigger venues that make him good money.

00:58:39.000 And that's fine.

00:58:40.000 But then I just see a guy who's gonna come out and take the position of, yeah, vaccine mandates are bad.

00:58:45.000 Why?

00:58:45.000 Well, he got ratioed.

00:58:47.000 I think his fans stepped in and then the ratio went back and forth.

00:58:50.000 But you've got people saying, like, he's being called a sellout now.

00:58:53.000 Whatever, call him whatever you want to call him.

00:58:55.000 I just think that if I were to go on a show like this one and be like, vaccine mandates are bad, you would not catch me dead putting on an event with a vaccine mandate.

00:59:03.000 Just like, even if I didn't believe it, you know, why would I ever subject myself?

00:59:07.000 No, no.

00:59:08.000 But the reality is we're not going to do it.

00:59:09.000 We are putting on an event.

00:59:11.000 The tentative date is October.

00:59:12.000 Well, late October.

00:59:14.000 October 22nd is our... October 23rd, sorry.

00:59:17.000 And then no vaccine mandates.

00:59:19.000 It's gonna be in West Virginia.

00:59:21.000 Open, no masks, whatever.

00:59:23.000 Because I wouldn't do it otherwise.

00:59:24.000 But I look at some of these people and it kind of bums me out that Jim Brewer is... I don't think he's... He's probably wealthy.

00:59:32.000 I mean, he was an SNL... He's a famous guy.

00:59:34.000 Half-baked.

00:59:35.000 Half-baked.

00:59:35.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:59:36.000 He's a funny guy, too.

00:59:36.000 He's great, man.

00:59:37.000 So he's probably wealthy to a certain degree.

00:59:40.000 I'm not going to pretend like he's the 1%.

00:59:41.000 You know, Joe Rogan's estimated net worth is in the tens or hundreds of millions or whatever.

00:59:46.000 But how much is enough that you're going to be like, you know what?

00:59:50.000 I don't need to make another 10 grand performing at this venue.

00:59:53.000 That's going to subject my fans who are upset about.

00:59:56.000 Well, at this stage, with hyperinflation, nothing, you could never maybe possibly, a sandwich could cost $100,000.

01:00:02.000 So, it comes to community.

01:00:04.000 I mean, this is legit social currency is where we're going.

01:00:06.000 Sure, Ian, you get paid 10 grand, you put it in crypto, you put it in property, you don't lose the value because of hyperinflation.

01:00:11.000 If the banks knock your bank account out, you lose it.

01:00:14.000 And the property is there with your name on the deed.

01:00:15.000 No amount of money is going to ever be enough.

01:00:17.000 That's the point.

01:00:18.000 It's people.

01:00:19.000 You need people.

01:00:20.000 You know, you need society.

01:00:22.000 You need culture and friendship.

01:00:24.000 I understand that for some people, no amount of money is enough.

01:00:27.000 And that's what I can't understand.

01:00:29.000 Because I got to tell you... Enough to survive?

01:00:31.000 Like $30,000 a year?

01:00:33.000 I think 10 years ago, it was considered $77K.

01:00:37.000 So look at inflation, I'd say you'd have to double it at this point.

01:00:40.000 Maybe $125K.

01:00:42.000 In New York, it's like $200K a year.

01:00:44.000 But I just don't get it.

01:00:46.000 You know, look... $200K a year.

01:00:48.000 Sorry, that's for what specifically?

01:00:49.000 Like, to be considered perfectly middle class.

01:00:51.000 You get vacation, you have clothes, you go to the dentist, you have healthcare.

01:00:54.000 I just can't understand... It's as high as 200K just to be considered middle class in New York?

01:00:59.000 In New York City.

01:01:00.000 Yeah, so in New York City 10 years ago, it was $150,000 per year to be considered middle class.

01:01:04.000 That's okay, I didn't know it was that high.

01:01:05.000 For the rest of the country, it was $77,000.

01:01:07.000 So it fluctuates with cost of living.

01:01:09.000 I just, here's what I don't get, and it could be very simply that Joe Rogan has a contract with Madison Square Garden that is probably massive.

01:01:16.000 We're not talking about a little rinky-dink club here.

01:01:18.000 He could be on the hook if he severs the contract for like millions of dollars or whatever.

01:01:22.000 But I'm just wondering like when you do a hundred million dollar deal with Spotify and you were already making tens of millions of dollars, he's not gonna get more, I mean he can get more rich, but like what do you do with the money?

01:01:32.000 And he's not gonna get more famous, so at a certain point, couldn't you just be like... I mean, actually, I'll tell you this.

01:01:37.000 On Lex Friedman's podcast, Joe Rogan said he had F.U.

01:01:39.000 money.

01:01:40.000 And that he just buys sports cars because, well, if you've got the money and, you know, that's what you're supposed to do.

01:01:44.000 You're supposed to be... Okay, well then, stand up for your principles, say no to the vaccine mandate, and tell Madison Square Garden you changed the terms of the contract by mandating this.

01:01:52.000 I won't perform.

01:01:53.000 What does he need from them?

01:01:55.000 It bums me out.

01:01:56.000 I don't know, man.

01:01:57.000 I mean, I feel like anything I would say on that would be speculation.

01:02:02.000 You know, we've both been on Joe's show multiple times.

01:02:05.000 We've met him.

01:02:06.000 Most people haven't.

01:02:07.000 And I don't know.

01:02:08.000 I mean, I know what I would do in that situation.

01:02:11.000 With the information that I know, as you alluded to, there could be something in there, in a contract, which is really putting him between a rock and a hard place.

01:02:21.000 I don't know.

01:02:22.000 So I'm kind of hesitant to speculate on that.

01:02:26.000 I do think though that in terms of the general wider principle, then I do actually think it's extraordinarily important for high-level musicians, comedians, performers, and so on to actually to boycott.

01:02:45.000 I want to say the same thing for Tim Dillon, too.

01:02:50.000 Like, he booked his tour.

01:02:51.000 He may be like, I can't pull out of these contracts.

01:02:53.000 So, you know, with respect, that could be the circumstances.

01:02:56.000 I mean, I know artists who are on, you know, artists who are on a much, much smaller level who have canceled entire tours because of this.

01:03:04.000 So again, I don't know all of the details.

01:03:06.000 And these are guys who, you know, need the money.

01:03:09.000 Far more than someone who's already worth a hundred million dollars plus.

01:03:12.000 And they've pulled out on principle and said, you know what?

01:03:17.000 I'm not going to perform at any venue.

01:03:19.000 I announced that back in April or so, before there was even so much talk, let alone implementation of these vaccine passports.

01:03:26.000 I said, look, I'm not going to perform at any venue where people cannot enter unless they show their papers proving that.

01:03:33.000 I was like, it's never been like that before.

01:03:36.000 I don't want it to be like that in the future.

01:03:37.000 I'm not the biggest artist in the world.

01:03:39.000 I'm not going to crush the music industry by me doing that.

01:03:43.000 But that's my line.

01:03:46.000 That's my line.

01:03:46.000 I'm not comfortable with it.

01:03:47.000 And tying it with what you were saying earlier about how we're individual, but we're also herd animals.

01:03:51.000 This is the point.

01:03:52.000 When one very famous person makes that call and decides, I'm not playing, people follow.

01:03:57.000 They do.

01:03:58.000 That is how we're coded.

01:03:59.000 They do.

01:04:00.000 And look, most people are against the mandate.

01:04:05.000 Well, if you go to CNN, they say 51% are in favor.

01:04:08.000 Nonsense.

01:04:09.000 Nonsense.

01:04:10.000 Most people are against the mandate.

01:04:12.000 I think so too.

01:04:12.000 Most people are against the mandate, whether people have had the shot.

01:04:15.000 I know there's people who are super pro-vax, who literally think almost everyone should get it, but they're like, but it shouldn't be mandated.

01:04:22.000 Yeah, because the mandate backfired.

01:04:23.000 Yeah.

01:04:24.000 But not just that.

01:04:25.000 It's just fundamentally, it's look, if the government can force you to inject something, even if you believe that that thing is, is good for you, right?

01:04:34.000 The government shouldn't be able to, you know, vitamins are good for you.

01:04:36.000 The government shouldn't be able to enforce you to inject vitamins.

01:04:39.000 Exercise is good for you.

01:04:40.000 I'm a huge proponent of exercise.

01:04:42.000 I'm a huge proponent of healthy eating.

01:04:44.000 The government should not be able to force you to go to the gym or to lift weights or to go for a run.

01:04:49.000 So you can be very much in favor of something.

01:04:53.000 Yet totally opposed to it being mandated on a state level or even on a massive corporate level.

01:05:01.000 Look at the people who supported Michael Bloomberg.

01:05:03.000 Voted for him in New York.

01:05:04.000 This is a guy who says, tax the poor.

01:05:06.000 You ever hear a speech on this?

01:05:07.000 He's like speaking at an event.

01:05:08.000 I don't think I heard this one.

01:05:09.000 In New York, and he's like, you gotta tax the poor because they're not smart enough to buy the things they need.

01:05:14.000 So if we take their money from them, we can give them what they need.

01:05:18.000 So he did the drink tax.

01:05:20.000 You know, he tried to do the drink tax.

01:05:21.000 I don't know if it actually, he pulled it off, but he was like, you know, large sodas will be taxed at a higher rate.

01:05:26.000 Okay, yeah.

01:05:27.000 Trying to deter poor people. 0.91

01:05:28.000 This is what they do.

01:05:28.000 They do punitive taxes.

01:05:30.000 We'll just tax the cigarettes, make it harder for them to get them because they're bad for you.

01:05:34.000 Government shouldn't have anything to do with that.

01:05:36.000 I will say, there's a line, schools and certain public facilities, institutions do require vaccination like your standard, you know, MMR, polio.

01:05:46.000 I think that's unique to the USA, by the way.

01:05:47.000 Really?

01:05:48.000 Maybe not totally unique.

01:05:49.000 I don't think that's the case in much of Europe.

01:05:53.000 There's that argument where, you know, Chris Wallace of Fox was like ragging on the governor of Nebraska.

01:05:58.000 I was like, well, what about all these other vaccines?

01:06:01.000 You know, but I'll just say really simply.

01:06:04.000 Yes.

01:06:05.000 Over years of research with long-term studies, we sat down and had a legislative body determine that we should have certain requirements for vaccines that are readily available and considered safe.

01:06:17.000 And, uh, well, there you go.

01:06:19.000 That's very different from an emergency use authorization edict coming from a governor who didn't pass the law through no conversation No debate.

01:06:28.000 There should be an opportunity for hearings.

01:06:30.000 There should be an opportunity for representation.

01:06:33.000 I'm not going to sit back as Joe Biden circumvents the two other branches.

01:06:36.000 There's something really interesting that you perhaps inadvertently highlighted there, which is the concept of precedent.

01:06:43.000 And that's the worst thing that's come out of the past 18 months, is the precedents that have been set, right?

01:06:50.000 So I don't think that, so even if there are other, it sounds like here in the U.S.

01:06:55.000 there are other vaccine mandates for people to go to certain schools, or I think to be in the military.

01:07:00.000 Like, I actually oppose that.

01:07:02.000 Right?

01:07:02.000 So just because they've made that decision in the past and set that precedent, to me that doesn't mean, okay, that this one's okay.

01:07:12.000 I'm like, well, I don't think that was, I don't think that's right either.

01:07:15.000 And what we've, what's happened now is precedents have been set for lockdowns.

01:07:20.000 Precedent has have been set for stay at home orders, for forced closures of businesses, for forced forcing people.

01:07:26.000 I mean, bro, I grew up in Saudi Arabia.

01:07:29.000 I remember just two years ago, what was the thing that people always, oh, that's horrible.

01:07:33.000 They make women cover their faces. 1.00

01:07:36.000 Right?

01:07:37.000 All of a sudden, you know, in France, in Germany, in the UK, they're debating back in 2015, 2016, should we ban the burqa?

01:07:45.000 Should we ban the Islamic face veils or whatever? 1.00

01:07:47.000 Now you're mandating the burqa and you're just calling it science. 0.99

01:07:50.000 You see the Met Gala?

01:07:51.000 Yes.

01:07:51.000 All the servants are wearing masks and all the elites aren't.

01:07:55.000 The funniest thing possible, so a lot of people are ragging on AOC because she had this this dress saying tax the rich at a $30,000 event, but I'll tell you what the funniest thing I saw was The video of her leaving the event where everyone's cheering and screaming and she's waving as a staff member is carrying her dress from behind for her while wearing a mask.

01:08:15.000 And I'm like, nothing says cyber nightmare dystopia like the leftist wearing a fancy tax the rich dress at a $35,000 per ticket event as everyone celebrates and cheers for her and her masked servant carries her dress for her on the way out.

01:08:31.000 Amazing.

01:08:32.000 The thing is, dude, this has been happening all the way.

01:08:34.000 I remember Gavin Newsom and his French laundry dinner.

01:08:36.000 You had Barack Obama's birthday party recently.

01:08:39.000 You've had these governors and mayors going on vacations and holidays.

01:08:43.000 In the UK, there have been the scandals there too.

01:08:45.000 And here's the problem, man.

01:08:48.000 Pointing out hypocrisy is only effective on people who actually have principles.

01:08:55.000 Or scribbles.

01:08:55.000 Right?

01:08:56.000 Right?

01:08:56.000 So if I do something that's deeply hypocritical and someone points it out, I have to check myself.

01:09:04.000 Right?

01:09:04.000 Because I have principles.

01:09:05.000 I'm like, Oh, you're right.

01:09:06.000 You know, like I was, I'm not practicing what I preach here.

01:09:09.000 Right?

01:09:09.000 Like I did something wrong.

01:09:11.000 But open hypocrisy, there's no greater flex of power and authoritarianism than open hypocrisy.

01:09:17.000 And we know this, right?

01:09:18.000 Last year, I went to Romania for a couple months.

01:09:22.000 And I was in Bucharest, where you have the second, a lot of people don't know, the second biggest building in the world, after the Pentagon, is the Presidential Palace.

01:09:31.000 Really?

01:09:31.000 In Bucharest, yes.

01:09:32.000 Built by Nikolai Ceausescu, their last communist dictator.

01:09:36.000 So the building, I believe, was finished in 91.

01:09:39.000 I think he was killed in 89, so he never lived to see the completion.

01:09:43.000 This build, if you go inside this, the opulence, the decadence, keep in mind this is all built during the communist era and you've got all the communist buildings around.

01:09:53.000 He displaced over 20, I believe over 20,000 citizens to build this building.

01:09:58.000 So he demolished 20,000, the homes of 20,000 people to create this monstrosity.

01:10:04.000 in the center of Bucharest which he never even lived to see but there's gold on the ceilings there's over a thousand rooms there's six floors under when you see the building keep in mind there's another six floors underground right the building is so heavy that it drops a couple centimeters what's it called every year the presidential palace in Bucharest look up this place it's gigantic i believe it's the second biggest building after the pentagon in terms i guess in terms of overall floor space This thing is... it's insane.

01:10:33.000 What does it do now?

01:10:34.000 What do they use it for?

01:10:36.000 They use it a little bit for media.

01:10:37.000 They do use it for some government activities.

01:10:41.000 You can take tours of it.

01:10:42.000 But a lot of it, I think, is just... it's gigantic.

01:10:46.000 Over a thousand rooms.

01:10:47.000 I mean, the size of this place is unreal.

01:10:50.000 You walk in one room and it's like a football field.

01:10:55.000 I just watched the video of Chachesco getting executed three weeks ago, or four weeks ago.

01:11:00.000 He and his wife.

01:11:01.000 And I mean, they were like, up until the moment, up against the wall, and the woman was still like, you're the problem, you're wrong, and they're wearing their nice clothes.

01:11:09.000 Yeah, it was on Christmas Day.

01:11:11.000 I mean, look, we know this.

01:11:16.000 You know that under communism, the rulers do okay.

01:11:22.000 The rulers are very wealthy, and they're living in luxury, and yet everyone else is starving and living in squalor. 0.97

01:11:29.000 So you think Ceausescu was like a prime example of a hypocrite? 0.98

01:11:33.000 Obviously. 0.94

01:11:34.000 I mean, I think as far as I'm aware, all the communist leaders were, right?

01:11:38.000 I mean, they were living lives of luxury and telling everyone else that, you know, they all need to be equal and have their rations and live in squalor and live in famine.

01:11:48.000 But they were convincing themselves that they needed the things that they were getting.

01:11:52.000 Yeah.

01:11:52.000 I mean, so it's, it's the same mentality, right?

01:11:56.000 The same has happened.

01:11:56.000 I mean, moving away from communism, just look at dictatorships, right?

01:12:00.000 When you've had dictatorships, whether in parts of Africa or in the Middle East or in South America, the people at the top are balling.

01:12:08.000 They're 100 million billionaires.

01:12:11.000 And meanwhile, people are just living in absolute squalor.

01:12:14.000 You got something to say?

01:12:14.000 4 million square feet.

01:12:17.000 There you go.

01:12:20.000 In Romania.

01:12:20.000 3,930,000 square feet.

01:12:25.000 How many floors was it again?

01:12:27.000 It's like a city.

01:12:28.000 I want to say it's about 12 floors, maybe.

01:12:32.000 It's a massive footprint.

01:12:34.000 It's huge.

01:12:34.000 It takes an hour to walk around.

01:12:35.000 It takes an hour to walk around.

01:12:39.000 Wow.

01:12:41.000 Not just a bit like the perimeter.

01:12:42.000 That's bigger than my college campus.

01:12:44.000 It's about the same size.

01:12:45.000 It's huge.

01:12:45.000 It's cube.

01:12:46.000 Its volume is 2.5 million cubic meters.

01:12:51.000 Holy cow. 0.89

01:12:52.000 It weighs 4 billion kilograms.

01:12:58.000 9 billion pounds.

01:13:00.000 4.10 million tons.

01:13:02.000 We often think about the biggest building vertically.

01:13:05.000 Yeah.

01:13:05.000 No, but this is... It's huge.

01:13:09.000 If you ever go to Bucharest, like... Oh, I'm going for sure.

01:13:13.000 It's worth checking this place out.

01:13:15.000 And there's even tunnels.

01:13:16.000 There's tunnels that go from there to... Apparently the tunnels underneath are so big you can drive a tank through them.

01:13:23.000 They say the building, the palace, is worth four billion euro, making it the most expensive administrative building in the world.

01:13:29.000 The cost of heating, electricity, and lighting alone exceeds six million dollars per year, comparable to the total cost of powering a medium-sized city.

01:13:39.000 Amazing.

01:13:40.000 So to your point, getting to openly flaunt the rules That's what this is all about.

01:13:46.000 That's a power flex.

01:13:47.000 I mean, what's a greater flex of power than open hypocrisy, right?

01:13:52.000 Telling people one thing and you're openly doing another.

01:13:56.000 I saw this photo.

01:13:57.000 There's an article in the Spectator.

01:13:58.000 It says COVID rules are for the serfs, not for the celebrities.

01:14:02.000 It's true.

01:14:02.000 And it's a picture of Kamala Harris' stepdaughter and some other actress or whatever.

01:14:07.000 And I'm just like, bro, it's the capital city from the Hunger Games.

01:14:11.000 And that's the one thing I hate the most, more than anything.

01:14:16.000 Probably having grown up in the south side of Chicago, seeing all of the ultra well-off, hoity-toity people, and the people I knew from the suburbs who had good families and came from wealth, and I'm just like, I don't care if you're rich.

01:14:28.000 I don't care if you got nice clothes.

01:14:30.000 I care if you treat other people with respect. 0.94

01:14:33.000 Seeing people mistreat waiting staff, seeing them mistreat janitors, seeing the staff at this event all being forced to wear masks while they flaunt their wealth with their ridiculous costumes, I'm like, yo, These are the worst people. 0.88

01:14:46.000 It is. It's the same reason why Woko Haram are so annoying, right? 0.88

01:14:54.000 These woke people, they're so insufferable because they'll go on and rant about white supremacy. 0.99

01:15:04.000 and being anti-racist and whatever and then a black person disagrees with them 0.99

01:15:08.000 and they're the ones you know calling them racial slurs or they're the ones

01:15:11.000 literally discriminate yeah I've experienced it right they're the ones 1.00

01:15:15.000 literally discriminating against people based on race a few months ago what was

01:15:19.000 a big conversation here in the USA what was it was that was racist voter ID yes

01:15:23.000 okay which is the least vaccinated group in the USA in terms of demographics

01:15:28.000 Is it black people? 0.96

01:15:29.000 It's black people. 0.69

01:15:30.000 Right. 0.99

01:15:30.000 Less than less than half the black people in New York City, I believe, have taken the shots. 0.99

01:15:35.000 OK.

01:15:35.000 And now the same people who are saying that voter ID is racist are now pushing for vaccine passports.

01:15:42.000 No, it's VaxID.

01:15:43.000 You need an actual government ID.

01:15:45.000 And you need an ID as well.

01:15:46.000 Right.

01:15:46.000 So you need the you need the proof of vaccination and you need an ID.

01:15:51.000 And you know that very disproportionately that's gonna, you've effectively banned black people, most black people in New York City from restaurants, from gyms, from whatever.

01:16:02.000 And this is the same people who less than a year ago are talking about voter ID being racist.

01:16:07.000 You know, they're doing it right now!

01:16:09.000 You know, right now you've got the Republicans with the, they just passed the voter bill in Texas, which included a voter ID for mail-in voting.

01:16:16.000 And they're like, it's racist!

01:16:17.000 And so I tweeted, VaxxerID is racist. 1.00

01:16:20.000 Now I'll tell you, a lot of people were like, oh, you're so dumb. 0.99

01:16:22.000 And I'm like, bro, what? 1.00

01:16:24.000 I'm not talking about vaccine passports.

01:16:25.000 I'm talking about VaxxerID.

01:16:27.000 VaxxerID is where in New York City to enter a building, you need a physical state issued ID with your picture on it.

01:16:33.000 You also need proof of vaccination, but they're separate.

01:16:36.000 So how are you going to sit there and be like, voter ID is racist?

01:16:38.000 I'm like, I agree.

01:16:39.000 VaxxerID is racist too. 0.99

01:16:40.000 And they're like, shut your mouth. 0.98

01:16:41.000 This is the thing.

01:16:41.000 I mean, come on, going to a $30,000 ticketed event wearing a dress saying tax the rich.

01:16:47.000 Like, I mean, this is the thing, but the hypocrisy almost to someone like that, it doesn't, it doesn't even matter because they've got their legions of psychophants who no matter what they do, and all this open hypocrisy, they're still like, Yeah, this is great, yes, slay, whatever.

01:17:06.000 And it's just like, this is, that's why I just can't take these people seriously.

01:17:10.000 You know, I look at what, when I first saw what AOC did, I didn't immediately jump on the like, oh, everyone's slamming her for going to the Met.

01:17:18.000 I'm like, look, I got invited to the Clinton Gala.

01:17:21.000 Sure.

01:17:23.000 And it was a black tie affair.

01:17:24.000 And I said, I ain't gonna wear a black tie.

01:17:26.000 I'm gonna wear a sweater and a beanie.

01:17:28.000 And they said, you can't come.

01:17:29.000 I said, I'm not coming.

01:17:29.000 Yeah.

01:17:30.000 And so if they said I could, I'd be like, I'm showing up to this place with all these rich people and I'm going to wear my normal clothes.

01:17:35.000 I got no problem.

01:17:36.000 And so, you know, when I see AOC, she's like, I'm going to show up and I'm going to wear tax the rich.

01:17:40.000 I'm like, to a certain extent, I would find that actually acceptable as a good form of protest to show up and be like in your faces.

01:17:47.000 The problem is she wasn't there protesting.

01:17:49.000 She was there enjoying her meal, celebrating and smiling with celebrities, waving to everybody.

01:17:54.000 And she was accepting a bribe.

01:17:55.000 Yeah.

01:17:56.000 I'm not going to mince words.

01:17:57.000 AOC took a bribe.

01:17:58.000 It was a $35,000 ticket.

01:18:00.000 Now, how did they get around it?

01:18:01.000 It's a charity event.

01:18:03.000 Of course.

01:18:03.000 So there's no real value.

01:18:05.000 Except us plebs can't... Well, I shouldn't say that.

01:18:07.000 It's not fair.

01:18:08.000 But regular people can't get in.

01:18:09.000 I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm some, like, poor person who couldn't afford to go.

01:18:13.000 No, the reality is I still think the elitism is a problem.

01:18:17.000 And yes, even if I am well off, I'm still rather lefty on a lot of these issues. 0.53

01:18:21.000 And I am disgusted by the hypocrisy of AOC because she is a faux leftist. 0.77

01:18:25.000 She doesn't actually care about elitism. 0.96

01:18:27.000 She wants to celebrate with these people.

01:18:28.000 She wants to be one of them.

01:18:29.000 She wants to be with them.

01:18:30.000 How dare she have that man carry her dress in the mask? 0.92

01:18:34.000 That sickens me.

01:18:36.000 Don't come to me and pretend like she was doing any activism.

01:18:38.000 No.

01:18:39.000 That was her excuse to be like, well, I was protesting.

01:18:42.000 No, you weren't. 1.00

01:18:43.000 Show up, pull the cloth off the table, knock over some drinks, give them the finger, and say, I don't care for your stupid garbage events. 1.00

01:18:50.000 You don't care about any of these people. 1.00

01:18:52.000 Look what you're doing to all the staff, making them do while you don't wear masks. 1.00

01:18:55.000 You're hypocrites. 0.99

01:18:56.000 No, she didn't protest. 1.00

01:18:57.000 She enjoyed her meal and she left. 0.87

01:18:58.000 And I think people also need to know that there's a difference between being an elite and being an elitist.

01:19:04.000 Right?

01:19:04.000 You can have people who are elitists and they're not elite.

01:19:07.000 They're not part of that class.

01:19:09.000 And you can have people who are in the elite class.

01:19:12.000 They're worth a hundred million plus.

01:19:14.000 They're billionaires, but they're not elitists.

01:19:17.000 Right?

01:19:17.000 Joe Rogan.

01:19:19.000 Perfect example.

01:19:19.000 Great example.

01:19:20.000 He's not an elitist.

01:19:21.000 Right?

01:19:21.000 He's an elite.

01:19:22.000 Absolutely.

01:19:23.000 By any sort of measure, he'd be considered an elite, but he's not an elitist.

01:19:27.000 On a bigger level, I would actually say that people like Trump for that.

01:19:31.000 Yep.

01:19:31.000 Right?

01:19:32.000 Donald Trump is an elite.

01:19:32.000 He's a multi-billionaire, right?

01:19:34.000 He's not living, like I said, but he's not an elitist who holds his nose and he sees these people in middle America and people in the working class and he's just like, you know, insulting them.

01:19:46.000 I mean, Don Lemon is an elitist, right?

01:19:49.000 He's not as elite as Trump, but he's an elitist, right?

01:19:51.000 He will look down at and insult even on TV half of the American population, perhaps more, right?

01:19:59.000 And that's why people like that are so insufferable because it's not the fact that, oh, you've got money or you're successful.

01:20:06.000 It's like, no, that's cool.

01:20:07.000 But you can have money and be successful and not look down on humanity in general.

01:20:13.000 We need people like that.

01:20:14.000 The founding fathers were like that too.

01:20:15.000 Yeah.

01:20:15.000 The Democratic Party is the party of Globo Jim.

01:20:18.000 You know Globo Jim?

01:20:19.000 We're better than you, and we know it!

01:20:23.000 That's what I think of when I see them.

01:20:25.000 Now, don't get me wrong, the Republican Party used to be the same thing.

01:20:28.000 Until Trump kicked the door in and said, I'm having a well-done steak with ketchup.

01:20:33.000 You gotta make fun of it for it.

01:20:35.000 That's actually such a good example.

01:20:37.000 It really is.

01:20:38.000 It's the perfect example.

01:20:39.000 And Trump played the media so well because they made fun of him for doing it.

01:20:43.000 And meanwhile, regular middle Americans eating their garbage dollar steaks from the Savon are like, this is how I like my steak. 1.00

01:20:50.000 Trump was trying to be a man of the people.

01:20:52.000 He was trying to say to them, you know, look, I'll be like you.

01:20:54.000 It's a common political tactic, mind you.

01:20:56.000 But you look at what the Democrats, they've always tried to be the party of limousine liberals.

01:21:02.000 Meanwhile, they claim Republicans, you know, they support cutting taxes for the billionaires because they think they'll be rich, but they're wrong.

01:21:10.000 And it's like, bro, you do the exact same thing.

01:21:11.000 You're sitting here with these celebrities going to the Met Gala where they have no COVID rules, and you do, and you're licking their boots.

01:21:19.000 Maybe if you took the boot out of your mouth, you'd be able to smell and see what was going on, but you're smelling all their stanky feet.

01:21:23.000 So what can I say?

01:21:24.000 No doubt.

01:21:24.000 And it's the same reason why people find so much of Hollywood and celebrities just insufferable.

01:21:30.000 It's not because they're rich or because they're famous or they're successful.

01:21:34.000 Kudos for that.

01:21:35.000 That's awesome.

01:21:36.000 It's when they're sneering and looking down at and literally openly just mocking Huge swathes of people, oftentimes people who have actually put them in that position of success, right?

01:21:52.000 I mean, it's not that, oh, the only people who watch movies are, you know, wealthy elites.

01:21:58.000 It's like, no, like every everyone watches movies, everyone plays video games, different people read comic books, whatever.

01:22:03.000 So when you have that audience and you're openly Hostile towards them it really rubs people the wrong way, and I don't again.

01:22:10.000 I don't know if maybe they do some of that Unintentionally or if it's intentional, but I think that's part of what led to the backlash I think in 2016 both in the UK with the brexit situation and with Trump.

01:22:22.000 I think a lot of that was cultural Backlash it wasn't purely politics politics was a part of it the economy was a part of it But it's also just people like look.

01:22:32.000 I'm tired of I'm tired of you guys like just Talking to us like that and treating us like that.

01:22:39.000 So you know what?

01:22:40.000 This guy ain't perfect or this thing ain't perfect, but we're going to go for that.

01:22:45.000 You know, I've been thinking more and more about... I've always kind of felt this way.

01:22:49.000 Like I mentioned, the elites at the Met Gala, the Capital City, the Hunger Games, and just like the snooty behavior.

01:22:55.000 I've known people my whole life who just have this attitude of, I'm better than you and I know it.

01:23:00.000 I've seen them all around and I can't stand it. 0.87

01:23:02.000 I despise those people.

01:23:04.000 And so when I see a lot of the high profile people who are supposedly opposed to that, Who have massive wealth, and then use that wealth to buy themselves stuff, infinity pools and condos and fancy stuff I'm just like...

01:23:17.000 Why?

01:23:18.000 Well, like Rogan with his cars, because he wants it.

01:23:20.000 It's his F.U.

01:23:21.000 money.

01:23:21.000 Do whatever you want with your money.

01:23:22.000 That's true.

01:23:23.000 I completely agree with that.

01:23:24.000 I just wonder why it is Joe doesn't just find somebody who's like advocacy.

01:23:29.000 Maybe he is.

01:23:30.000 I don't want to throw anything at anybody, be it AOC or otherwise, who's donating and doing charity behind the scenes.

01:23:36.000 Hassan Piker bought what was like a $3 million house.

01:23:40.000 And they were like, why aren't you giving to charity?

01:23:42.000 He's like, I am.

01:23:43.000 I just don't publicize.

01:23:44.000 I'm like, that's fair, because I give a lot, too.

01:23:46.000 But I just look into a lot of these people, Hasan included, you know, left or right, I don't care.

01:23:51.000 If you're making millions of dollars, why aren't you building stuff with it?

01:23:54.000 So like, we have this, you know, we have the vlog and we have the million dollar skate mansion, we call it, but like we've reached capacity basically in this house with how many people we're staffing and hiring, bringing people in and just being like, do your thing and make good stuff and we're going to try and build something.

01:24:08.000 And now we're looking at buying a venue because the goal is Not to have money to buy, load up a garage full of sports cars or to get myself an infinity pool in a luxury condo in DC or anything like that.

01:24:20.000 I'm like, you know, I want to just hire people.

01:24:23.000 It's not super easy to do.

01:24:24.000 But my point is, I look at a lot of these ultra rich people.

01:24:28.000 Buying yachts and stuff.

01:24:29.000 I guess I get it when you have so much money, it's like, what do you do anyway?

01:24:34.000 But it really is hard to manage.

01:24:35.000 I just wonder why it is that there's so many people who are active in politics, who are extremely well off, who don't do anything beyond their shtick.

01:24:45.000 Because it comes down to their principles and values.

01:24:48.000 You know, everyone has a different principles and a different value system.

01:24:51.000 And I think that when it comes to money and power, I believe that those are primarily amplifiers, right?

01:24:58.000 They're enablers.

01:24:58.000 So if you are, you know, if you're naturally a fairly genuinely generous person who cares about like helping others and building and helping up, right?

01:25:08.000 And you come into a lot of money or power, That will be amplified and you'll then have the means to help.

01:25:15.000 Oh cool, I can help even more people now.

01:25:17.000 I can build even more now.

01:25:18.000 Whatever, right?

01:25:19.000 I think that's your position.

01:25:21.000 But if you take someone, it's an amplifier, right?

01:25:23.000 If you take someone who's a little bit of an alcoholic or a little bit of a drug addict and you give them like millions of dollars, what's going to happen?

01:25:30.000 Right. They become a major alcoholic. They become a major drug addict. If you take someone who's

01:25:35.000 a little bit got authoritarian tendencies and likes to tell them, tell people what to do and

01:25:40.000 bully people and whatever, you know, if they're, if they have not a lot of money, power, and status,

01:25:45.000 then they're kept in check because they're not, they don't have the capacity to do a lot of harm.

01:25:53.000 So look at crazy dictators, whether you're looking at the Saddam Husseins or the Gaddafis or the Idi Amins, whatever, right? 0.87

01:26:00.000 Those are people who then you give them essentially limitless power and funds and they can enact all of their crazy psychopathic Stuff, right? 0.97

01:26:11.000 Hitler wasn't the only Hitler out there. 0.88

01:26:15.000 It's just, he was the one who actually had the power and capacity to do that.

01:26:19.000 And this is quite a dark thought, but there are millions of people who, if you gave them that same unchecked power.

01:26:27.000 They would also commit genocide, which is scary, but those people exist. 0.93

01:26:34.000 They exist, but they don't have the power and the capacity to go about and do that.

01:26:38.000 And so it's a little bit of a sobering thought, but I just think that's reality.

01:26:42.000 I think I have two thoughts on this.

01:26:45.000 One is like, I don't understand why people who have money don't do more cool stuff.

01:26:48.000 You end up seeing typically it's something of the left.

01:26:52.000 Mackenzie Bezos gets billions.

01:26:53.000 And what does she do? 0.94

01:26:54.000 She just dumps billions of dollars into critical race theory and social justice. 1.00

01:26:58.000 And then, you know, you have some right wing personalities and high profile families that are wealthy and that fund a lot of stuff.

01:27:04.000 The Mercers, the Koch brothers and things like that.

01:27:06.000 I don't know what the Kochs are doing as of late, but I think it's just one of them now, isn't it?

01:27:11.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:12.000 And so my point is there are a lot of very wealthy people who just choose to have whatever they want, and there's a tendency that we see on the left, hardcore political activism.

01:27:21.000 Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg, George Soros, et cetera, Mackenzie Bezos, flooding the left with money, giving resources to all these people to support this stuff.

01:27:29.000 And I don't think you have nearly as much on the right.

01:27:32.000 And the same is true for the culture war. 0.68

01:27:34.000 There are a lot of personalities who have moderately sized podcasts and YouTube channels that are making hundreds of thousands if not millions plus per year, and they just put it in their pocket, put it in the bank, buy stuff for themselves and their family, and they don't invest.

01:27:45.000 Meanwhile, you have left-wing activist organizations that, you know, the way I describe it is You've got a game of tug-of-war where one side is pulling with all their might, the left, and the right is just trying to stay where they are.

01:27:57.000 If you're not pulling back and you're just trying to stand, you're gonna get knocked down, you're gonna get pulled down.

01:28:01.000 So I just, I've been thinking about this for a while.

01:28:03.000 I'm like, if you're gonna go out on YouTube, on iTunes, on Spotify, on Twitter, and be like, these are the things I care about, I demand, blah, and you make a ton of money doing it, and then you're like, well, I'm not actually gonna do anything about it, I question your integrity.

01:28:19.000 Yeah, it's complicated, man.

01:28:21.000 And the thing with people who are more conservative is they are more conservative.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:27.000 Right?

01:28:28.000 People, like, they don't want to be... I mean, how many conservative protests do you see?

01:28:35.000 Like, if you think of the concept of activism itself, it's generally thought of as a left-wing phenomenon, right?

01:28:41.000 People on the left tend to be more willing to fight.

01:28:44.000 They tend to be more Bold in saying what they believe, even if some of it is absolutely insane.

01:28:50.000 Um, and I'm always trying to urge people who are just more, I would just say more sane, not even necessarily conservative or libertarian, whatever, even just sane liberals, just people who are sane.

01:29:01.000 It's like, look, you need to push back at least equally, or you need to advocate for what you believe in at least equally.

01:29:08.000 And if people say, oh, well, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll go to the polls in 2024.

01:29:12.000 And you know, as Andrew Breitbart said, you know, politics is downstream from culture.

01:29:16.000 So, that's why with what I do, I'm like, man, people need to focus more on the society and the culture.

01:29:21.000 Like, we're both artistic people.

01:29:23.000 So, creatives, musicians, actors, whatever.

01:29:27.000 People need to... It doesn't mean you need to go and create, like, a whole right-wing economy, necessarily.

01:29:33.000 Or, like, right-wing everything.

01:29:35.000 Just, you know, it's just...

01:29:38.000 Those options have to be out there because if all you do is play defense, you're always going to lose.

01:29:43.000 Right.

01:29:44.000 You're always going to lose.

01:29:45.000 And there needs to be a level of just people going, look, OK, we need to draw some lines.

01:29:49.000 This is, you know, this is reasonable.

01:29:52.000 We need to push back against this.

01:29:54.000 Otherwise, it's just going to be, you know, an ever growing series of L's. 0.98

01:29:58.000 I think Breitbart had a good point when he said politics is downstream from culture, but I think, you know, I'm starting to realize that politics is irrelevant, culture is everything.

01:30:06.000 Interesting.

01:30:07.000 The judges rule based on what popular culture tells them to rule on.

01:30:11.000 So the interpretation of the Supreme Court is entirely based on mainstream narratives.

01:30:16.000 So you can appoint all the judges in the world, but those judges, look it, they'll throw a shovel under the bus in two seconds.

01:30:21.000 Cal Rittenhouse?

01:30:22.000 I'm willing to bet they'll throw him under the bus too.

01:30:23.000 Why?

01:30:24.000 Because they're scared of what the popular culture will do.

01:30:26.000 Nobody wants to be ostracized.

01:30:27.000 So if you don't have control of culture, then you can say, here's the law.

01:30:32.000 The Constitution says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:30:36.000 Unfortunately, we don't have a strong gun culture in this country in that capacity, and I genuinely mean that. 0.92

01:30:42.000 Because you have too many people who are gun owners who are willing to accept more and more regulations on their guns.

01:30:49.000 So obviously people would say, that's absurd! 0.92

01:30:50.000 America is a massive and crazy gun culture! 0.98

01:30:52.000 Sure!

01:30:53.000 And they allowed for the NFA, and they allow for the ATF rule changing, and they allow for this over and over again.

01:31:00.000 And the actual strong gun advocates are the ones always saying, stop!

01:31:04.000 No, but there's no political party looking to repeal all of these laws.

01:31:09.000 You have the Democrats demanding more restrictions, and the Republicans saying, no, wait, don't.

01:31:14.000 So we don't have a strong enough culture in this country to resist the infringement upon our right to keep and bear arms.

01:31:20.000 If the entire culture of this country was one 100% on board with everyone owning a gun, there'd be no restrictions.

01:31:28.000 Because the culture would dictate.

01:31:29.000 Same thing will happen with free speech.

01:31:31.000 So, I've thought a lot about this.

01:31:33.000 I used to say, like, I understand the law on, like, you can't incite someone to violence.

01:31:39.000 I've actually been questioning that.

01:31:41.000 You know, someone superchatted, we read it once, saying that it should be the action, taking action of violence should be punishable and incitement should not be the crime because Congress shall make no law establishing freedom of speech or whatever.

01:31:53.000 And that means you can say, I want you to go do X, but you didn't do anything other than say words.

01:31:57.000 If we allow the government to put a law on any words, then what's to stop them from saying there's already precedent to where we can make some speech illegal.

01:32:07.000 The Constitution says you literally can't, but we've already allowed them to do it.

01:32:10.000 In which case, what's next?

01:32:12.000 Hate speech laws?

01:32:12.000 No, you gotta protect some slander and, like, calls to violence and things because people are, uh, people are, like, brainwashable.

01:32:21.000 The First Amendment is clear.

01:32:23.000 No, I understand.

01:32:24.000 I've actually had this sort of internal debate with myself as well, with like, because I consider myself, you know, generally, I mean, there's the positions of literal 100% free speech, absolutism, you know, you can slander, you can incite violence, so on and so forth.

01:32:44.000 I tend to be, I tend to think of myself as, like, one step in from that, as in, like, okay, those fair exceptions and then everything else, provided it's, you're talking about, and it's because of what you're saying.

01:32:59.000 So I agree that, you know, someone, someone could tell me to go commit a crime or violent action or whatever.

01:33:07.000 I'm not an automaton.

01:33:09.000 Right?

01:33:09.000 I ultimately am responsible for my own actions.

01:33:11.000 I can't just be like, Oh, well, he told me he told me to rob that store.

01:33:15.000 It's like, No, well, I'm the one who did it.

01:33:17.000 Right?

01:33:19.000 But at the same time, See, this is the tricky one, because as we know, like now more than ever, human beings are, you can brainwash people, you can radicalize people.

01:33:35.000 And, you know, Hitler didn't kill anyone himself.

01:33:39.000 I don't know, did he?

01:33:40.000 He wasn't known for that.

01:33:41.000 As far as I'm aware, I don't know.

01:33:43.000 In the first war, I think.

01:33:45.000 Okay, when he was in power, he himself was not doing any of the killing.

01:33:50.000 But he wasn't known for that.

01:33:52.000 But here's the issue. Hate speech is incitement.

01:33:54.000 Standing up on a soapbox, decrying maggots, maggots and plague rats.

01:33:58.000 They're destroying this country.

01:33:59.000 Something needs to be done.

01:34:00.000 They need to be stopped.

01:34:01.000 Now you, something needs to be done.

01:34:03.000 You don't directly cross that line.

01:34:05.000 But obviously their example of hate speech isn't saying maggots and plague rats.

01:34:09.000 But when that's their argument, the whole time has been hate.

01:34:12.000 They've been saying this for years.

01:34:13.000 Hate speech is incitement.

01:34:14.000 It should fall into the law.

01:34:16.000 If the culture shifts in that direction, they'll start enforcing it.

01:34:18.000 So I'm not even, I think the term incitement, I actually don't, I don't use that in my own definition of like limitations.

01:34:26.000 To me, it would be direct calls to violence.

01:34:29.000 Right?

01:34:29.000 Because incitement is too gray.

01:34:32.000 It's too gray.

01:34:33.000 Well, incitement typically means telling someone, hey, go do X.

01:34:36.000 Okay, well, yeah, I think that, to me, is where I'm like, okay, that's considered an exception, I believe, under U.S.

01:34:43.000 law.

01:34:44.000 I mean, I think when it comes to free speech, the U.S.A.

01:34:46.000 certainly has it the most rights out of any other country.

01:34:51.000 And the issue is, if the Constitution says they shall make no law establishing, you know, pertaining to speech and religion and all that stuff, and then we say, oh, but you can, well, then the exceptions are, that means there is an exception, and that means, depending on the culture, more exceptions will be made.

01:35:06.000 And also, I mean, okay, let's move away from calls to violence and incitement.

01:35:11.000 What about, like, slander?

01:35:13.000 That's simple.

01:35:15.000 There has to be damages.

01:35:16.000 Yeah, but, you know, if someone is going around claiming that somebody is X or a Y or they've done this or they've done that, again, I can see, like, that is... It's not a crime.

01:35:30.000 It's not a crime?

01:35:30.000 It's not a crime.

01:35:31.000 If I speak something, it's slander.

01:35:34.000 If I write it, it's libel.

01:35:35.000 And then I can file a lawsuit in a civil court where I say, you caused me damages by lying.

01:35:40.000 No one goes to jail.

01:35:41.000 They just say, well, you know, you owe him for the damages you caused him.

01:35:45.000 So it's one thing to say, you will get arrested for incitement to violence.

01:35:49.000 You can get charged with incitement.

01:35:52.000 You can't get arrested for lying about somebody.

01:35:54.000 You'll get sued and then you'll have to pay up.

01:35:57.000 And often it's extremely difficult to even do that.

01:36:00.000 I've been lied about left and right, I'm sure you have too.

01:36:02.000 And what do you even do?

01:36:04.000 I don't know.

01:36:04.000 It's certainly an interesting conversation.

01:36:08.000 It's one of those ones where I'm like, I don't know.

01:36:11.000 It's tough.

01:36:12.000 Yeah.

01:36:13.000 It's a little bit tricky.

01:36:14.000 Cause I can see the sort of slippery slope argument.

01:36:19.000 Um, but also I think, okay, if you have essentially free speech, absolutism, and then you have those two caveats, I don't necessarily, if, if people are pushing for far, far, far more infringements, then obviously that's an issue.

01:36:35.000 But I think like, as it currently stands, I'm kind of like, Fair enough, right?

01:36:42.000 I'm not so ideological on it that I'm unwilling to kind of be like, okay.

01:36:47.000 So therein lies the main issue.

01:36:49.000 So long as you have gun owners being like, okay, well, I understand this. 0.56

01:36:54.000 In 10 years, they'll say, okay, well, I understand that.

01:36:57.000 And then in 50 years, you'll have gun bans.

01:36:59.000 Yeah.

01:36:59.000 Slippery slope is a very real thing.

01:37:01.000 And incremental changes are a very real thing.

01:37:06.000 But it doesn't mean that it always happens, right?

01:37:12.000 So the truth is, with any law that we have, you're going to have Everything sets a precedent, right?

01:37:21.000 Every single thing sets a precedent, but it doesn't mean that it always goes as far as it theoretically could be pushed?

01:37:30.000 Does that make sense?

01:37:31.000 Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

01:37:32.000 I think the Second Amendment is the perfect example of cultural erosion.

01:37:36.000 I mean, we used to have gun clubs in high school. 0.61

01:37:38.000 Now, it's just like so many guns are banned, and for ridiculous, nonsensical reasons.

01:37:43.000 Can I ask, what is it that switched your position on that?

01:37:46.000 Because that's something you've changed on, right?

01:37:48.000 I've never been a hardcore anti-gun person.

01:37:51.000 I've always been a... I think there's reasonable things we can do to, you know, this was a few years ago, reasonable things we can do to, like, you know, maybe track purchases and maybe require insurance or something, because we're talking about a deadly weapon.

01:38:03.000 And then someone commented on one of my videos saying, I completely agree.

01:38:07.000 I would also like you to get speech insurance for your First Amendment right.

01:38:12.000 And then I was like, that's a good point.

01:38:15.000 If we're talking about your rights that can't be infringed upon, I might disagree with you owning the weapon in certain capacities, but I certainly don't have the authority to legislate that away unless we have a constitutional convention and change the amendment.

01:38:27.000 And then I shifted to, okay, well then I think if the left wants to change the gun laws, they got to have a convention to change Second Amendment.

01:38:33.000 And everyone's like, okay, that makes sense.

01:38:35.000 Fine.

01:38:35.000 It'll never happen.

01:38:36.000 Yeah.

01:38:36.000 And then it basically came down to when the riots were getting crazy, when COVID was getting crazy, and I started saying, okay, I'm gonna go buy a gun.

01:38:43.000 Someone tried to break into my house.

01:38:44.000 And then I actually started training with them, learning about them, using them.

01:38:48.000 And then being like, everything the left has said about guns is completely wrong.

01:38:51.000 They're lying. 1.00

01:38:52.000 They're either lying or they're completely idiotic, but they're 100% wrong. 1.00

01:38:58.000 When they say things like, no one's banning your guns. 1.00

01:39:00.000 Bro, I have like 20 guns that are already banned in like 15 states.

01:39:04.000 Yeah, they're banning guns.

01:39:06.000 Absolutely.

01:39:07.000 Not to mention the NFA making it damn near impossible to even get them.

01:39:10.000 And then the ATF changing rules.

01:39:12.000 So some guy goes out and buys a weapon.

01:39:14.000 And then two months later, the ATF changes the rule, and how's he supposed to know?

01:39:18.000 Then they go kick his door in and arrest him because he has an illegal weapon?

01:39:20.000 Nah, we can't have that.

01:39:22.000 But we can have Super Chats.

01:39:23.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:39:24.000 Yes, we can.

01:39:25.000 If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com, become a member because we're gonna have a members-only segment coming up at 11 or so PM.

01:39:32.000 Let's read some of your Super Chats and see what y'all have to say.

01:39:35.000 Just real quick because someone superchated right now and it's relevant.

01:39:38.000 They said, First Amendment protects expression of opinions and beliefs.

01:39:42.000 Calls to violence are not an expression of an opinion or belief.

01:39:46.000 1A does not have exceptions.

01:39:47.000 All right.

01:39:48.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:39:51.000 Pugin says, would pursuing a career in federal law enforcement still be worthwhile?

01:39:55.000 Or have things gone too far politically?

01:39:58.000 My dream is to work for the FBI, but I'm worried that wokeness has hurt its efficacy. 0.98

01:40:03.000 Me personally?

01:40:04.000 Yeah, watching X-Files is fun, you know?

01:40:06.000 Like this, it's not even about Mulder chasing aliens, it's about, they actually show the FBI as some like noble profession of stopping murderers, and there's like serial killers, but I'm like, it's all, it's all a dream, man.

01:40:17.000 Look, I've, I've, uh, I'd be willing to bet that wokeness is infected and infiltrated everything. 1.00

01:40:22.000 So me personally, I'd say I wouldn't do it.

01:40:27.000 All right.

01:40:27.000 The Curly Afro says, Zuby, great book.

01:40:29.000 Almost finished my dietary plan.

01:40:31.000 Doing 80-20 first time up.

01:40:33.000 Tim and crew, keep up the great work.

01:40:35.000 And Ian, read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

01:40:37.000 Yes.

01:40:38.000 And Miyamoto Musashi's Dakoto.

01:40:41.000 Yes.

01:40:41.000 Both.

01:40:42.000 Thank you.

01:40:42.000 Absolutely.

01:40:43.000 Solid second.

01:40:45.000 I see how this works.

01:40:46.000 The principle is whatever is expedient at the time.

01:40:47.000 far left on Twitter is telling us this when they want a vax mandate because they're angry

01:40:52.000 on vax using up beds in hospital.

01:40:54.000 That's right.

01:40:55.000 They say health care is a human right unless you don't do as you're told.

01:40:58.000 In which case, what?

01:41:00.000 I see how this works.

01:41:02.000 Yeah.

01:41:03.000 The principle is whatever is expedient at the time.

01:41:06.000 Indeed.

01:41:07.000 Yep.

01:41:08.000 All right, let's see.

01:41:09.000 Insert name here says, Tim, a new AFT director is not appointed within the next 23 days.

01:41:15.000 Rule 34, Article 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution states the Speaker of the House may appoint nominees to any vacant position.

01:41:21.000 Google Speaker.

01:41:22.000 Get out of here.

01:41:24.000 That's it.

01:41:24.000 You got me.

01:41:26.000 I'll give you that one.

01:41:26.000 But AFT too, right?

01:41:28.000 Not ATF?

01:41:28.000 Well, AFT is because Biden says AFT, but they were they were pranking us.

01:41:32.000 They were they were they were they were pranking us.

01:41:33.000 Smart.

01:41:34.000 I fell for the prank.

01:41:36.000 You got me.

01:41:38.000 I didn't read the last part though.

01:41:39.000 Good face.

01:41:40.000 I know the rules of the internet.

01:41:44.000 All right, let's see.

01:41:46.000 Let's find ourselves a nice... here we go.

01:41:50.000 What does it say?

01:41:51.000 Krom?

01:41:52.000 Krom Mike says, let's be clear.

01:41:54.000 Using military to escort children will allow them access to take your children at any time. 0.52

01:41:58.000 All they need to do is make it the new normal and then give them the order.

01:42:01.000 They will give you something to lose.

01:42:02.000 Your job, your children, and your life.

01:42:05.000 That's what I'm saying, right?

01:42:07.000 Yeah, but I don't think you should live in fear of the National Guard like that.

01:42:12.000 Personally.

01:42:13.000 I just think it's one degree to time.

01:42:15.000 It's a precedent.

01:42:16.000 No one's ever going to come out and be like, the National Guard will be taking your children from you.

01:42:19.000 They're saying, I'm sorry there's no bus drivers, but the National Guard will come here to help.

01:42:24.000 And then something will happen and they'll say, your kids were brought to a special facility because of the threat level from COVID, but they'll be back tomorrow.

01:42:32.000 You know, it's not going to be overnight.

01:42:33.000 That's not how it works.

01:42:35.000 Homeschool your kids. 0.99

01:42:36.000 Homeschool your kids. 0.99

01:42:38.000 Yes.

01:42:38.000 It's a precedent.

01:42:39.000 I'm down with that.

01:42:43.000 Michael Smith says, Last Airbender taught us about neutral jing.

01:42:48.000 Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing and wait to see how to respond properly.

01:42:51.000 In fact, we were just talking with Dan Holloway the other day, and he was mentioning that a really good interrogation technique is after someone answers you, to not say anything, because people hate silence, so they'll just start talking again, and they'll give you more and more information.

01:43:05.000 You know who was really good at that?

01:43:06.000 Norm Macdonald.

01:43:07.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

01:43:08.000 Yeah.

01:43:08.000 I'm gonna have to watch him.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, dude.

01:43:10.000 Norm was a genius.

01:43:14.000 Sergeant Wolf says, Tim, not all Gen Z are socialists.

01:43:17.000 Many of us are out voiced on social media because we're not there to be activists.

01:43:21.000 Much like how not everyone is not on Twitter, not everyone is not on Twitter is everyone in the world.

01:43:27.000 I'm a far libertarian, not a Nazi.

01:43:30.000 Well, there you go.

01:43:33.000 All right.

01:43:33.000 Let's see where we're at.

01:43:36.000 Tony Mathis says, Tim, you're analyzing the problem from a leftist viewpoint.

01:43:40.000 Seeing your parents struggle makes kids want to help, if in no other way that's not causing more problems, if there is love in the family.

01:43:50.000 I'm just saying there's a lot of leftists who are talking about how they grew up in this collapsed economy with constant struggle.

01:43:56.000 They go to school, and they have massive debt, and there's no jobs for them, and now there's another collapse, and they're just totally nihilists.

01:44:01.000 I want to ask you guys about that.

01:44:02.000 So you were saying there's this, I guess you called it, Cowardice culture.

01:44:07.000 And then Tim, you were saying people are like kind of coming out without calluses and they're raw to the environment and it's hurting them.

01:44:13.000 How do we... I would imagine the only way we can help them is over time.

01:44:17.000 Beatings.

01:44:19.000 Until the beatings stop.

01:44:21.000 Until the beatings stop.

01:44:22.000 Until the morale improves.

01:44:24.000 You need to help them.

01:44:26.000 You can't really callous them because then they're going to take it personally and attack you for it.

01:44:30.000 But you got to encourage them to start to take calluses or to callous themselves.

01:44:34.000 I mean, that's kind of what you do for a living, basically.

01:44:36.000 Yeah.

01:44:37.000 Look, you have to... Resilience is built over time.

01:44:40.000 Exposure.

01:44:40.000 Right?

01:44:41.000 That's literally how you learn anything.

01:44:45.000 And it's how you get stronger.

01:44:46.000 It's how your immune system works.

01:44:48.000 It's how you build muscle.

01:44:48.000 It's how you get fitter.

01:44:50.000 Everything.

01:44:50.000 It's incremental, small incremental gains.

01:44:54.000 So I think you want to encourage children, teenagers, young adults to challenge themselves.

01:45:01.000 Go outside their comfort zone.

01:45:02.000 It's why, you know, something as simple as playing in sports.

01:45:05.000 is so important because you learn how to win, you learn how to lose, you learn how to get along with

01:45:11.000 a team and how to have an opponent but not necessarily deem them an enemy, right? A lot of

01:45:17.000 people now can't differentiate between an opponent and an enemy, right?

01:45:22.000 And I think that's kind of dangerous because people see the other side as a threat, as an existential threat.

01:45:27.000 It's like, no, that can be your political opponent or someone you disagree with.

01:45:30.000 It doesn't mean you have to hate them or want them or wish physical harm on them.

01:45:34.000 Right.

01:45:34.000 That's messed up.

01:45:35.000 But a lot of people haven't learned that.

01:45:36.000 And I think I see a correlation between this and.

01:45:40.000 I've made this point before where I see a genuine correlation between like people playing sport or being physically active and their sort of socio-political outlook on a lot of these things, right?

01:45:56.000 People who have built themselves up or they face some kind of like true challenge or adversity whether just by their environment or self-determined.

01:46:07.000 Then they, they carry that over to other aspects.

01:46:10.000 It's, it's, it's rare to find someone who is physically strong, who is like mentally weak, who is like how, like throughout this pandemic, is there anybody jacked who's afraid of COVID?

01:46:21.000 I don't think so.

01:46:22.000 There's nobody jacked who's afraid of COVID, right?

01:46:24.000 That's not accidental.

01:46:26.000 Like, honestly, like that, that's maybe I have some confirmation bias, but like I'm observing who it is and what's going on.

01:46:35.000 And it's like the same people who freaked out about that.

01:46:37.000 It's the same people who freaked out about Trump.

01:46:39.000 Same people who freaked out about Brexit.

01:46:40.000 Same people who freak out about climate change.

01:46:42.000 It's the same people who are freaking out over COVID.

01:46:43.000 It's like the same.

01:46:45.000 Do you know about the attractiveness phenomenon with the political parties?

01:46:49.000 I do, yes.

01:46:50.000 Yeah, Republicans tend to be more attractive than politicians, not individuals.

01:46:55.000 Boy, did the young Turks get mad at me for this one. 1.00

01:46:57.000 It was really funny.

01:46:59.000 So I had mentioned this because there's like six studies pointing out that people who are Republican politicians tend to be more attractive.

01:47:06.000 You can see it at CPAC.

01:47:07.000 And then I cited the studies.

01:47:09.000 So they did a segment making fun of me, calling me ugly, and then saying I was right. 1.00

01:47:13.000 I'm like, that's just the weirdest thing.

01:47:15.000 I guess you win.

01:47:16.000 I was like, I wasn't even being mean.

01:47:18.000 I was just like, yeah, I think the point I was mentioning was, and it's funny, this shows you the tribalist nature of the Young Turks. 0.87

01:47:25.000 The point I was making is that people who grew up beautiful are privileged and that they have better access to things.

01:47:30.000 People want to help them more often.

01:47:32.000 And they're like, if I could pull myself up by my bootstraps, why couldn't you?

01:47:36.000 And people who are frumpy and ugly have a hard time of life.

01:47:38.000 And they're like, we need collective resources because life is not easy.

01:47:42.000 And so you have beauty privilege. 0.75

01:47:45.000 And they criticized me for it and called me ugly.

01:47:48.000 It was really weird.

01:47:49.000 I don't care what they think. 0.82

01:47:51.000 I'm pointing out like the nature of their argument is he's right, but he's ugly.

01:47:55.000 I'm like, okay.

01:47:56.000 Oh, I can't stand ad hominem attacks when they go for.

01:47:59.000 Yeah.

01:48:00.000 But you, you learn to expect them because that's all some people are capable of.

01:48:05.000 It's their only line of argument.

01:48:07.000 And the problem is that it works on so many people, right?

01:48:10.000 So many people, if you just call them a name or you call them some ist or ism or phobic, then, uh, they, they shut down.

01:48:18.000 They immediately go on the defensive.

01:48:20.000 And once you've got them on the defensive, then you've, you've kind of won.

01:48:23.000 So I can see why people use this tactic, but I think people need to stop falling for it.

01:48:27.000 I did it in my 20s, a lot, on YouTube.

01:48:30.000 I would make videos at people and go for their physical weaknesses and make them feel insecure about it so that I could prove my point easier against them.

01:48:37.000 It was terrible.

01:48:39.000 Horrible. 1.00

01:48:39.000 Like, I seeded this stupidity. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Alright, Josh Denny is an Uber driver, says, Yesterday Biden stopped in Boise. 1.00

01:48:46.000 Over 2,000 people peacefully assembled to shout F Joe Biden.

01:48:50.000 Huge shout out to Idaho Dispatch for doing the honest journalism we need.

01:48:54.000 Check out their channel for a stream of the whole event.

01:48:57.000 Support great, honest journalism.

01:48:59.000 I heard that.

01:49:00.000 People were shouting, F Joe.

01:49:02.000 National chant now.

01:49:06.000 Alright, let's see.

01:49:07.000 Matthew Hammond says, can we get Zuby and Clifton Duncan on the show while Tim and Ian's mics are muted?

01:49:12.000 I was thinking of those, too.

01:49:13.000 Technically, yes.

01:49:14.000 So you just want a show with Zuby and Clifton Duncan?

01:49:17.000 Does it have to be in this room?

01:49:18.000 I mean, I'll go wherever.

01:49:20.000 They could just do a podcast, you know?

01:49:23.000 If you want to listen to it.

01:49:25.000 I have done a podcast with him.

01:49:26.000 He has been on my show.

01:49:27.000 What they're basically saying is they refuse to not watch Tim Kest's IRL, but they want that.

01:49:32.000 So they'll only watch it if we're here.

01:49:35.000 Can Lydia still turn the cameras to me and Tim sometimes? 0.58

01:49:37.000 Can I talk?

01:49:38.000 I don't know what the rules are here.

01:49:41.000 Ready to Rumble says Jim Brewer's Twitter is inundated with people that are hating on him.

01:49:45.000 Check it out.

01:49:46.000 I'm not so sure Jim Brewer cares.

01:49:50.000 See, he seems resilient and he's repeatedly called them out.

01:49:54.000 He's probably laughing.

01:49:55.000 You know who else is awesome is Rob Schneider.

01:49:57.000 Yeah.

01:49:59.000 He's got Norm in him, man.

01:50:00.000 I was watching him talking about the crew, him and Sandler, and the way he was talking.

01:50:06.000 Norm, I don't know if I can jump in.

01:50:10.000 Norm, you know, I can't do a Norm right now, but Rob was doing it.

01:50:14.000 It was just in him.

01:50:15.000 They're such... They're friends, man.

01:50:18.000 They were at the same time period.

01:50:19.000 They believed in being able to tell jokes and stuff, you know?

01:50:23.000 Like, you know, get the thing.

01:50:26.000 Yeah, I love Rob Schneider's Twitter.

01:50:27.000 He calls people out.

01:50:29.000 He's fearless, you know, right on.

01:50:35.000 All right, let's see.

01:50:37.000 We haven't talked about it, but the Nicki Minaj thing's been interesting if you've caught that.

01:50:44.000 The media lies about Nicki Minaj.

01:50:46.000 She says, y'all, y'all are lying.

01:50:48.000 And then someone says she's on the side of the far right.

01:50:50.000 It's like, what did I lie about?

01:50:53.000 Alright, let me read this.

01:50:53.000 Daniel Lipscomb says, Hey Tim, I'm 29 and need 8k for a hip replacement.

01:50:58.000 Worth asking if that money is really burning a hole in your pocket.

01:51:01.000 It's probably one way to put it.

01:51:03.000 If you had a GoFundMe, I'd go check it out.

01:51:05.000 29 and needing a hip replacement, that sounds bad.

01:51:08.000 I've given away a ton of money to GoFundMes for pets and for people's medical issues and people who've had their homes destroyed in the wildfires.

01:51:16.000 So, I'm not necessarily a big fan of just giving money away, because I want to make sure we have resources to hire people, pay people well, and expand the company.

01:51:25.000 But at a certain point, like, I see a story about someone whose house burned down, and I'm gonna be like, yo, I'm not gonna leave this person hanging.

01:51:32.000 You know, there was someone who got attacked by Antifa and had their equipment destroyed, and I was like, here's money, go buy yourself some new stuff, man.

01:51:38.000 I can't, like, you know, I'm not gonna...

01:51:41.000 It's tough, but I think we're gonna do some great stuff.

01:51:47.000 We've got the funds to hire more people.

01:51:50.000 The more people who sign up to become members at TimCast.com, the more we're focusing on hiring people and expanding.

01:51:57.000 The challenge is, you can't just go into the list of resumes and be like, hired, hired, hired, hired, hired.

01:52:02.000 Because you end up with a bunch of people who can't do the job, and it's like an arduous process.

01:52:07.000 Yup.

01:52:09.000 The last thing ever is the, like, I cannot stand the idea of firing someone is like wrecks my mind.

01:52:15.000 I can't stand it.

01:52:16.000 You gotta vet people so deep before you hire them in my opinion.

01:52:20.000 Especially because we have to move people out.

01:52:22.000 If we hire someone and they're like, okay, their resume looks good.

01:52:25.000 They look good.

01:52:27.000 Okay.

01:52:27.000 We're going to hire you.

01:52:28.000 We like, we'll fly people out. 1.00

01:52:29.000 We'll check their vibe.

01:52:31.000 Okay.

01:52:31.000 Now you can move out here and join the company.

01:52:33.000 And then something happens where it's like, yeah.

01:52:36.000 It's like a long vetting process, not easy.

01:52:39.000 All right, let's see.

01:52:40.000 Clef the Misfit says, Tim, you're asking whether it's incompetence or malice.

01:52:43.000 But it's like Zuby said, these people are children. 1.00

01:52:46.000 Children are both ignorant and malicious. 0.99

01:52:48.000 These traits feed into each other. 1.00

01:52:51.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 Maybe so.

01:52:52.000 Corey Richmond says, Zuby, being from the UK, what is your stance on gun rights?

01:52:56.000 I'm very pro-2A.

01:52:57.000 I don't advocate for it in the UK because it just wouldn't work and doesn't make sense.

01:53:03.000 And there isn't the cultural and historical precedent for it.

01:53:06.000 But I think that Americans absolutely, if the past 18 months has not made this clear to you, then you've been living under a rock.

01:53:13.000 But Americans should absolutely never give up their Second Amendment rights.

01:53:18.000 But why shouldn't the people in the UK get the right to keep and bear arms?

01:53:22.000 It just wouldn't work.

01:53:23.000 It wouldn't work.

01:53:24.000 There's not the historical precedent.

01:53:26.000 If you even advocated for that in the UK, you'd be considered extreme far-right.

01:53:31.000 It's so far outside of the cultural and political window.

01:53:35.000 You gotta start pushing the window.

01:53:38.000 And the people don't want it.

01:53:40.000 It's not like the people want it.

01:53:41.000 If British people were generally like, yeah, we want gun rights, then you could bring it into the political discussion.

01:53:48.000 But the vast majority absolutely do not.

01:53:50.000 So you change the culture.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, the concept would horrify them.

01:53:54.000 But that would be hard to do.

01:53:55.000 I mean, America's got several hundred years of culture and history with that.

01:54:00.000 Partially because of the British, right? 0.98

01:54:01.000 Yeah, partially.

01:54:05.000 So it's kind of different.

01:54:07.000 Derek Nelson says, love seeing Zuby.

01:54:09.000 He probably doesn't remember me, but I lived on the Damam Street in UDH, Saudi.

01:54:15.000 Growing up over there does give a different perspective.

01:54:18.000 Tim, thanks for helping me get through last year.

01:54:20.000 Ron was right, and the Fed.

01:54:22.000 Do you remember Derek Nelson?

01:54:25.000 The name rings a bell, you know.

01:54:26.000 Where I lived was only like 1,400 people.

01:54:29.000 Do you know Damam Street?

01:54:31.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:54:32.000 What is UDH?

01:54:33.000 Udalia.

01:54:34.000 It's where I used to live in Saudi Arabia.

01:54:36.000 Wow, that's awesome.

01:54:37.000 Tiny, tiny community.

01:54:39.000 Do you get into crypto?

01:54:42.000 Yeah, I've been in crypto since 2017.

01:54:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:45.000 Good year.

01:54:46.000 Squall, for RIP though, you know, to be in it.

01:54:48.000 Squall says, there's wisdom in Joe Rogan not using his platform to make a statement about what should be limited to the conversation between doctor and patient.

01:54:58.000 All right.

01:54:59.000 I hear that.

01:55:01.000 Joe Sosnowski says, that's not how you pronounce vitamins.

01:55:06.000 Vitamin.

01:55:08.000 Vital mineral.

01:55:09.000 I abstain.

01:55:10.000 You're both right.

01:55:11.000 Yes, everyone wins.

01:55:12.000 Zuby, vitamin is short for vital mineral.

01:55:15.000 No, it's not.

01:55:16.000 You get it right.

01:55:17.000 No, it's not.

01:55:18.000 That's a total lie.

01:55:20.000 Then why would you have vitamins and minerals?

01:55:22.000 What?

01:55:23.000 Yeah.

01:55:24.000 Vitamins and minerals are different things.

01:55:25.000 Look in vitamin etymology.

01:55:26.000 Vitamin's not short for anything.

01:55:27.000 We're looking it up.

01:55:29.000 Here we go.

01:55:30.000 I will happily, I will happily concede if I'm wrong.

01:55:33.000 Originally, I don't think vitamin is short for anything.

01:55:35.000 Vitamin with an E on the end, apparently, 1912 coined by the Polish biochemist Kazimir Funk from Latin vita, life.

01:55:45.000 Uh, hold on.

01:55:46.000 I got to look up the entire article to get the rest of that.

01:55:48.000 Vita's life.

01:55:49.000 Vita.

01:55:50.000 Oh gosh.

01:55:51.000 Vita.

01:55:52.000 From Pyrute, guay to live, amine.

01:55:56.000 Vita amine.

01:55:57.000 You're right.

01:55:57.000 Proteins.

01:55:57.000 I stand corrected.

01:55:59.000 Because they were thought to contain amino acids.

01:56:00.000 Life amines.

01:56:02.000 So vita amine.

01:56:02.000 I was going to say, because it wouldn't make sense, because you say vitamins and minerals.

01:56:06.000 We don't say that.

01:56:07.000 You don't say that?

01:56:08.000 We do.

01:56:08.000 Oh, we do.

01:56:09.000 Yeah.

01:56:10.000 So if vitamin included minerals, then second half would be redundant.

01:56:14.000 I've been defeated.

01:56:15.000 I lost.

01:56:15.000 I lost my attention.

01:56:17.000 Nice.

01:56:19.000 Waffle Sensei says Zuby is f-ing based.

01:56:24.000 Oh.

01:56:24.000 Yes.

01:56:25.000 Thanks for the super chat, Waffles.

01:56:27.000 Thanks.

01:56:28.000 Don't know what to reply to that.

01:56:31.000 All right, let's see.

01:56:32.000 Mark Roberts says, AOC Met Gala.

01:56:35.000 How's the farmer's bed?

01:56:37.000 Animal Farm reference.

01:56:38.000 Some animals more equal than others.

01:56:40.000 That's right.

01:56:40.000 Yeah, do you think she's like, she broke through the wall and now she's emanating like tax the rich from the inside?

01:56:46.000 Because I think that's what she thinks she's doing.

01:56:48.000 I think she's cosplaying as a revolutionary because when there were revolutionaries in France, they did not wear things that said, down with, you know, the rulers.

01:56:57.000 They just did it.

01:56:58.000 The chat is like, Tim is done, Zuby wins, Zuby got him!

01:57:01.000 He got me!

01:57:02.000 Triumph over!

01:57:04.000 Ben Walker says, Tim, there's criticism for your presence and self-censorship on YouTube, big tech censorship, and your criticism of Tim Dillon.

01:57:12.000 Is it possible that his rationale may be the similar but the ends are different?

01:57:16.000 If not, a distinction might be helpful.

01:57:19.000 Yes, they're very different things.

01:57:20.000 First of all, when I was talking about the vaccine mandates and people were like, yeah, well, you're on YouTube and YouTube censors.

01:57:24.000 And I'm like, if the bars in New York were like, we have a vaccine mandate, but if you show up, we'll let you in anyway. 1.00

01:57:30.000 Okay.

01:57:31.000 If they were operating a speakeasy behind the scenes, that'd be like, okay.

01:57:35.000 If, if we have a show on YouTube where there's like some things we can't say, they're typically slurs we don't want to say anyway.

01:57:42.000 Okay, and for the most part, our opinions on the show don't really fall outside of YouTube.

01:57:49.000 The issue is, we want to have guests on who do have opinions outside of that of YouTube, so we created a private space on TimCast.com.

01:57:56.000 We can do our show, express ourselves, there's nothing we're particularly worried about for the most part, but we created a space where we can be safe.

01:58:04.000 It's not the same.

01:58:06.000 I think it's fair to say, you know, there's some criticism and get off YouTube, but why would you sacrifice the largest video platform where you can say 99% of the things you want to say and then use that to push people to a space that insulates us from all censorship?

01:58:22.000 Just makes sense.

01:58:23.000 In regards to Tim Dillon, he could book a venue that doesn't mandate vaccines.

01:58:27.000 He could book a suburban New York venue, right?

01:58:30.000 So it's not one for one.

01:58:32.000 I welcome a discussion on it and criticism, and as I pointed out, with respect, Tim Dillon may already have contracts in place, he can't just break those, and so he's probably like, eh, I don't know what to do.

01:58:40.000 So I can respect that.

01:58:42.000 I just think, for me, I'm like, censorship is bad.

01:58:46.000 We're going to create a space where we can speak out against censorship, and there's a line.

01:58:50.000 If it ever came to the point where YouTube told me I wasn't allowed to say something very important like, you know, Joe Biden should be impeached because he's a crooked politician who was colluding with Ukrainians in Burisma so that he could get an investigation pulled on the company that his son worked for.

01:59:07.000 If they came out and said, if you mention that again, we'll ban you.

01:59:10.000 I'd be like, I'm gonna say it.

01:59:12.000 In fact, when it came to that one guy's name who you can't say, I actually had a huge fight with YouTube over like, if you push this, I'm gonna upload six videos per day just saying his name, nothing else.

01:59:23.000 And then ultimately I was like, there's a limit.

01:59:26.000 Is it really worth it for me to argue over saying one name?

01:59:29.000 That the issue isn't black and white.

01:59:31.000 I don't need to say a name.

01:59:32.000 I can put it on my website and I can use the funding and the resources to have an impact.

01:59:37.000 My understanding is that Tim Dillon isn't actually advocating against the vaccine mandates.

01:59:41.000 He's actually arguing that they're okay because some people want them.

01:59:45.000 He said, I'm not gonna cancel my show because half the people who like me don't like the mandates.

01:59:49.000 And I'm like, right.

01:59:51.000 So he's just supporting the mandates while then saying they're bad.

01:59:55.000 It's not one for one. 0.97

01:59:56.000 I disagree with what he's doing.

01:59:57.000 You can disagree with what I'm doing.

01:59:58.000 It is what it is.

02:00:02.000 All right.

02:00:03.000 Seriously, JK says, weeks ago you made fun of my comment about a vaccine passport black market that will form.

02:00:08.000 And here we are.

02:00:09.000 It already started.

02:00:10.000 Also, check out the video Daily Wire put up about global clashes and protests.

02:00:14.000 It's getting wild.

02:00:16.000 It absolutely is, especially with parents.

02:00:18.000 There was a, I covered the story.

02:00:20.000 Bannon was right.

02:00:21.000 I'll say it again.

02:00:22.000 They, they canceled these meetings, the school board meetings in one area because parents were attacking the school board employees.

02:00:28.000 Wow.

02:00:29.000 Because people are not having it, you know?

02:00:33.000 Yep.

02:00:34.000 That's what happens when you push people that far, though.

02:00:36.000 Especially with our kids.

02:00:37.000 Yeah.

02:00:38.000 Do you have kids?

02:00:39.000 Do you have family?

02:00:40.000 No, not yet.

02:00:41.000 Not yet.

02:00:42.000 I want to have at least five, but not just yet.

02:00:45.000 All right, let's see.

02:00:46.000 We'll try and grab as a Uh, where was more?

02:00:50.000 C Squared says, Tim Dillon, best Tim, insults everyone under the sun.

02:00:54.000 Look out for the Beanie Bash. 1.00

02:00:55.000 He's gonna dress you down like a Taco Bell bathroom, Tim Pool, you dim fool. 1.00

02:00:59.000 Now we talkin'. 1.00

02:01:00.000 You know, uh... That's a lot of memes. 1.00

02:01:03.000 So Tim Dillon on Twitter recalled, uh, called his fans, uh, brain-dead morons. 1.00

02:01:09.000 Ouch. 0.99

02:01:10.000 So then I quote tweeted him saying something like, you know, there's no medical exemption for vaccine mandates in New York.

02:01:17.000 Sometimes it's good to be part of the wealthy elite, right Tim?

02:01:19.000 He then took that and made fun of me for being bald. 0.98

02:01:23.000 So then I called him a coward.

02:01:25.000 That's the extent of like, you know, for the most part.

02:01:27.000 If you want to have a serious political conversation and you want to entertain conversations around politics and you don't know what you're talking about and you're scared, don't come up in my grill. 0.96

02:01:37.000 Don't insult your own fans as brain-dead morons, and then rebut me by saying I'm bald, because if you can't hang with hardcore political conversations, you shouldn't be in the business. 0.99

02:01:46.000 That being said, the dude probably will roast me. 1.00

02:01:48.000 It'll probably be really, really hilarious, and the dude is very funny.

02:01:51.000 I would never dream of getting involved in a roast contest with a guy who's as funny as Tim Dillon.

02:01:58.000 I can respect that.

02:01:59.000 But I can't respect you...

02:02:02.000 publicly coming out on your latest episode saying vaccine mandates are bad, but I have no problem performing at venues that do them because they're not- I don't care that much. 0.99

02:02:11.000 And then when your fans come out and say, yo, dude, this is selling out, and you say, well, you're a brain-dead moron, I'm like, dude, that's like lowbrow, okay? 0.99

02:02:17.000 I'll criticize that. 0.99

02:02:18.000 He can say whatever he want about me, Hasan says stuff about me, all the leftists do, I'm not gonna cry about it.

02:02:24.000 I'm just gonna talk on the internet, I guess.

02:02:27.000 All right.

02:02:28.000 JM Kidd says, great guest tonight, Tim.

02:02:30.000 Zuby is interesting.

02:02:31.000 I will have to follow him on Twitter.

02:02:33.000 That's right, people should follow you on Twitter.

02:02:34.000 What's your Twitter?

02:02:35.000 What up?

02:02:35.000 At Zuby Music.

02:02:36.000 Z-U-B-Y music. 1.00

02:02:39.000 Sergeant Sponge says, Tim, take it easy on comics.

02:02:42.000 They say things to be funny.

02:02:43.000 That's it.

02:02:43.000 There are no other rules if someone laughs.

02:02:45.000 Joe and Dylan don't have to wear politics front and center.

02:02:48.000 Yeah, they don't.

02:02:49.000 Um, I'm not saying they do.

02:02:51.000 Uh, what is it?

02:02:52.000 I mean, comedians are entertainers.

02:02:55.000 You know, they're here to make us laugh.

02:02:56.000 You know, they're not here to challenge the system or ruffle feathers like George Carlin.

02:03:00.000 Yeah.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, I like that you wrote that, like George Carlin. 1.00

02:03:03.000 Yeah, calling yourself a comedian is not a badge to be an idiot. 1.00

02:03:08.000 You still got to back up your words with your actions. 1.00

02:03:12.000 George Carlin got arrested for his bit to stand up.

02:03:16.000 He was, but maybe he was more than a comedian.

02:03:19.000 George, what did George Carlin get arrested for?

02:03:21.000 Seven words you can't say on TV.

02:03:22.000 Oh, okay.

02:03:23.000 We, we, we had a bit on the members only podcast where we just repeatedly said the seven words.

02:03:27.000 I never knew he got arrested for that.

02:03:29.000 He got arrested for it.

02:03:30.000 He got, he got in a lot of trouble for it.

02:03:32.000 He was, he was, he was willing to say, I will sacrifice my freedom for what I believe in.

02:03:38.000 So that's why I'm just like, you know, look, Joe, Joe's a friend.

02:03:41.000 He's a good guy, but I just don't understand how he can come out on a show and be like, Hey, all these things are really bad.

02:03:46.000 We shouldn't do this, but I've got no problem supporting a city and a venue that does it.

02:03:50.000 Oh, man.

02:03:50.000 Cancel that MSG show, dude.

02:03:52.000 It's his deal. 0.75

02:03:54.000 Oh, I want to start cussing right now.

02:03:57.000 It's really easy without knowing the full details.

02:03:58.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:03:59.000 And I'll say this for Tim.

02:04:00.000 For Tim Dillon, too.

02:04:03.000 I want to make sure I'm being fair because I don't know his contracts.

02:04:06.000 He's got a big tour.

02:04:07.000 He's got a bunch of venues.

02:04:08.000 He might not be able to.

02:04:09.000 I worked for Fusion.

02:04:10.000 Here's the one thing I think is acceptable that you can say about me.

02:04:13.000 I worked for Fusion.

02:04:15.000 I worked for them for two years, they were woke and insane, and I tried to leave, but I had a contract, so I couldn't.

02:04:20.000 So I was stuck with the company for an additional year, while they made all this stuff, and then finally, once my contract was over, I walked.

02:04:27.000 Right?

02:04:27.000 So, to be fair, sometimes you can't just walk away because they'll try and destroy you, you know?

02:04:32.000 So.

02:04:33.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

02:04:35.000 One more.

02:04:36.000 Kyle Abrams says, Hey Tim, would you be interested in hiring a chef, groundskeeper, housekeeper local to your area or letting someone intern?

02:04:42.000 The answer is yes.

02:04:44.000 A groundskeeper would be greatly appreciated and needed.

02:04:47.000 I'm not sure about housekeeper.

02:04:48.000 I think we have, I mean, you know, you could, you could help out.

02:04:52.000 You can send an email to jobs at timcast.com and then we'll get to it, you know, to the best of our abilities.

02:04:59.000 Quality control is difficult.

02:05:00.000 Because I can't just be like, hey, you go hire someone because then it's just, it takes a long time and you'll figure it out.

02:05:06.000 But anyway, if you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:05:14.000 We're going to have a members only segment coming up talking about naughty words, things that YouTube doesn't like.

02:05:19.000 And I mean, they're usually not that crazy or anything like that, but you can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:05:23.000 You can follow the show at TimCast IRL for a bunch of clips.

02:05:26.000 Zuby, you want to shout anything out?

02:05:28.000 Yeah, sure thing.

02:05:28.000 So my new album is out right now, Word of Zuby.

02:05:31.000 It's available on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify.

02:05:35.000 I've also got my own podcast, Real Talk with Zuby, which is available on all the major platforms.

02:05:40.000 And you can find me on all social media at Zuby Music, Z-U-B-Y Music.

02:05:45.000 That was cool, man.

02:05:45.000 I thought we could have had like talked about a lot of different strata of of evolution and consciousness and like culture and stuff.

02:05:52.000 But this was like that was great.

02:05:53.000 It's all good, man.

02:05:54.000 I'm here.

02:05:55.000 Yeah, it's rock and roll, baby.

02:05:57.000 Hey, find me Ian Crossland anywhere.

02:05:59.000 Check it later.

02:06:00.000 I'm being forcibly instructed to tell you that you're the world's best female weightlifter, which is how I first heard about you. 1.00

02:06:07.000 You were smashing the boundaries of gender. 0.51

02:06:10.000 Hey, you know, someone had to break that glass ceiling.

02:06:12.000 That's right.

02:06:12.000 And I really appreciate that about you.

02:06:14.000 Thank you.

02:06:14.000 That's all good.

02:06:15.000 I'm glad I did it for women worldwide.

02:06:17.000 I respect you as a fellow woman.

02:06:18.000 Smash the patriarchy.

02:06:19.000 Thank you, ma'am.

02:06:20.000 But now you're a man again, right? 0.69

02:06:22.000 You identify as a man again?

02:06:23.000 That's a little bit presumptuous of you.

02:06:25.000 Oh yeah, I agree.

02:06:26.000 Well, there's a question mark at the end of that statement.

02:06:27.000 Yeah.

02:06:28.000 And I don't know why you're making it seem that it's just a binary.

02:06:30.000 You're twisting my period.

02:06:33.000 We'll get into it in the member segment.

02:06:38.000 We've got a story.

02:06:39.000 That'll be a challenger emergency.

02:06:42.000 I didn't mean to throw everything off.

02:06:44.000 I just wanted to say that you're the best female weightlifter in the world. 0.64

02:06:46.000 Thank you.

02:06:46.000 I appreciate it.

02:06:46.000 You guys are welcome to follow me at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter as I attempt to gain more followers than Sour Patch Kids.

02:06:51.000 We will see you at TimCast.com for the members only segment.

02:06:55.000 Check it out.

02:06:56.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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