Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Nicki Minaj SUSPENDED Over Vaccine Posts, Praised Tucker Carlson w-Jack Murphy

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00:00:32.000 we got a lot of crazy news my friends Mark Milley confirms the quote-unquote treason phone call with China, which I would say, uh, colloquially, in the personal sense, uh, yeah, treason.

00:01:03.000 He betrayed this country.

00:01:04.000 He called China's military and said, everything you're doing, every con- Here's what happened.

00:01:10.000 Mark Milley's like, hey, you ever see that Tim Pool guy's show?

00:01:12.000 You know he won't shut up about Thucydides' trap and the fear that there's gonna be a war between the two nations?

00:01:16.000 Don't worry, we'll never attack you!

00:01:19.000 After everything China has done, Mark Milley on October called them and said, which basically gave them carte blanche.

00:01:27.000 And then they continued to put pressure over the past year in the South China Sea, sink in Vietnamese fishing boats as they've been doing.

00:01:34.000 Now they're being seen up in Alaska because Mark Milley's like, don't worry, and even if we do attack you, we'll give you advanced warning.

00:01:41.000 Milley then had, according to this report, a secret meeting to subvert the chain of command.

00:01:47.000 The Hill reported this, saying he had a meeting with senior official officers, telling them to report to him to try and circumvent Donald Trump's orders as president, which Alexander Vindman, of all people, said is usurping civilian authority.

00:02:01.000 And we heard from the DoD in the New York Times story, would be a military coup.

00:02:06.000 Now that's big news, right?

00:02:08.000 But we didn't lead with that.

00:02:09.000 You know why?

00:02:10.000 Because we were just talking about this literally before I turned the camera on.

00:02:14.000 Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture.

00:02:16.000 I think politics is irrelevant.

00:02:18.000 Culture is everything.

00:02:19.000 And the cultural story is that Nicki Minaj has been suspended from Twitter.

00:02:22.000 She's a massive celebrity with tons of 22 million followers and probably millions more fans. 0.99

00:02:27.000 And she was retweeting Tucker Carlson.

00:02:30.000 She was calling the media liars.

00:02:33.000 What happens?

00:02:34.000 She gets suspended.

00:02:36.000 So I don't know if this is going to be any big wake-up moment for a lot of people.

00:02:40.000 I mean, Kanye West came out and was spitting facts at a lot of people, as well as, you know, some crazy stuff.

00:02:44.000 But that's Kanye.

00:02:46.000 And maybe this won't be the biggest story compared to, like, a general staging a coup against the president.

00:02:52.000 But how many people in this country are sitting there going like, did you hear about Mark Milley staging a coup?

00:02:56.000 And how many are like, yo, they suspended Nicki Minaj, what?

00:03:00.000 How many people heard what she had to say and it had a big impact?

00:03:03.000 So we gotta talk a lot about this.

00:03:04.000 We gotta talk about politics and culture.

00:03:06.000 We mentioned it on the past few nights.

00:03:07.000 That politics doesn't even matter at this point.

00:03:09.000 I don't even... I don't even... You know what I'm thinking about it?

00:03:11.000 What's the point?

00:03:12.000 Right?

00:03:12.000 We got all these old laws.

00:03:14.000 There's like funny books called like, Old Laws Still in Effect.

00:03:16.000 Like you can't bake an apple pie on Sundays and put it on your windowsill in Massachusetts.

00:03:20.000 And it's like, well of course no cop will ever enforce that.

00:03:23.000 Why?

00:03:23.000 Because our culture changed.

00:03:25.000 We no longer care and it would be ridiculous.

00:03:27.000 So even with the law and the books, it doesn't even matter.

00:03:29.000 With judges and the Supreme Court, it doesn't even matter.

00:03:34.000 So let's talk about it.

00:03:34.000 We're hanging out with Jack Murphy.

00:03:36.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:37.000 It is a Wednesday, which means 50-50 chance I'll be here on TimCast.

00:03:42.000 Heads.

00:03:43.000 I call heads.

00:03:43.000 Here we are.

00:03:44.000 Thank you for having me.

00:03:45.000 I appreciate it.

00:03:45.000 I have so much to say about what you just said right there.

00:03:48.000 But first thing I want to do is invite everyone to come have a Jack brunch with me on Sunday, 9-26 in New York City.

00:03:55.000 We did an event.

00:03:56.000 Actually, it's going to be in Jersey City.

00:03:57.000 Just so you know, forget the Vax mandates.

00:04:00.000 Forget the Vax cards.

00:04:01.000 Forget all that.

00:04:02.000 We're not going to New York City.

00:04:04.000 We're going to Jersey City.

00:04:05.000 One stop outside of New York City.

00:04:06.000 No Vax Mandates?

00:04:07.000 No Vax Mandates.

00:04:09.000 Vote with your dollars, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:11.000 Tim Dillon could have done that.

00:04:12.000 He certainly could have.

00:04:13.000 He still can.

00:04:14.000 He still could have.

00:04:16.000 We have fans in Jersey City and in New York City, so we're going to Jersey City to get everybody there.

00:04:21.000 We had an event in Chicago last week.

00:04:23.000 It was tremendous.

00:04:25.000 It is open to everyone, women and children, wives and girlfriends, men and boys.

00:04:30.000 So please come down.

00:04:31.000 Look it up.

00:04:31.000 Jackedbrunch.com or follow us on Twitter at Jack Brunch.

00:04:35.000 We're going to New York next weekend.

00:04:37.000 We're going to Tampa.

00:04:39.000 We're going to Nashville, Austin, Denver, Seattle, New York, L.A., San Francisco.

00:04:45.000 We're going all over the place.

00:04:46.000 You guys are going to come.

00:04:46.000 You're going to come in DC.

00:04:47.000 We're going in February of February 27, 2022.

00:04:50.000 You all are invited.

00:04:51.000 You're going to come to brunch.

00:04:52.000 Is that a weekend?

00:04:53.000 It is a Sunday.

00:04:54.000 Yeah.

00:04:55.000 Jacked brunch.

00:04:56.000 Check it out.

00:04:56.000 Jackbrunch.com.

00:04:57.000 Follow me on Twitter at Jack brunch.

00:04:59.000 What's your name?

00:05:00.000 I am Ian Crossland.

00:05:01.000 Ian Arthur Crossland.

00:05:03.000 My middle name is Art.

00:05:05.000 I had no idea.

00:05:06.000 I was named after like my grandma's brother.

00:05:08.000 You're Ian Eak.

00:05:09.000 Yack.

00:05:10.000 I used to think that went through my mind a lot when I was young.

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:13.000 Yack.

00:05:13.000 Why couldn't my last name start with an N?

00:05:15.000 Yeah, you'd be Ian Ian.

00:05:16.000 That'd be so cool.

00:05:16.000 So cool, man.

00:05:18.000 Well, there you go.

00:05:19.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:05:20.000 You too, Jack.

00:05:21.000 I'm so glad you're back.

00:05:22.000 I am too, man.

00:05:22.000 I like how that rhymes.

00:05:23.000 Every other Wednesday is my favorite Wednesday.

00:05:25.000 That's right.

00:05:26.000 It's so relaxed, you know?

00:05:27.000 It is.

00:05:28.000 No pressure.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, we're absolutely just chilling.

00:05:30.000 I love when Jack's here.

00:05:31.000 We always get up to no good and he always enjoys our beverages.

00:05:35.000 We do.

00:05:35.000 We have a very fine whiskey right here today.

00:05:37.000 What is it?

00:05:37.000 Scotch whiskey, actually.

00:05:39.000 We have a Highland Park, the dark 17 year old.

00:05:41.000 How is it?

00:05:43.000 It is fantastic.

00:05:44.000 Very cool.

00:05:45.000 Tim sent me a message the other day.

00:05:46.000 He texted me.

00:05:47.000 He's like, dude, we got a 40 year old Scotch for you.

00:05:49.000 That's not it.

00:05:50.000 That's not it.

00:05:50.000 I'm like, the 40 year one is... We got some 25s.

00:05:54.000 There's a pair of Vans on the floor, but there's no 40 year Scotch over here.

00:05:58.000 It surprisingly wasn't that expensive.

00:06:01.000 Well, it tastes like it.

00:06:02.000 Well, no, that one, I mean, it's a couple hundred bucks.

00:06:04.000 I think that one goes from like $300 to $500 or whatever.

00:06:05.000 And the 40-year is comparable, but we've got some really expensive stuff.

00:06:11.000 Even though I don't drink, because, you know, we gotta take care of our guests.

00:06:15.000 I feel very well taken care of.

00:06:16.000 I just want everyone to know, we don't pay the people who show up here.

00:06:19.000 Can confirm.

00:06:21.000 You are not paid.

00:06:23.000 Uh, yeah, nope, nope.

00:06:25.000 And that's our business.

00:06:26.000 So anyway, anyway, we can at least give them some, some, some good whiskey.

00:06:30.000 It's delicious.

00:06:32.000 And Lydia, I'm looking over there.

00:06:33.000 I can see the Henta on your hand. 1.00

00:06:34.000 Is that from the wedding?

00:06:35.000 Yeah, so I got henna from my sister's wedding.

00:06:38.000 She's married into an Indian family.

00:06:40.000 It's very cool, very traditional.

00:06:41.000 What is henna? 0.97

00:06:42.000 Henna is like this brown dye.

00:06:43.000 They make it with leaves and it's like this super, super old tradition.

00:06:46.000 They pound it down, they add a little bit of water and it turns into like this oil-based weird stuff that stays on for like two weeks.

00:06:53.000 It's actually pretty impressive.

00:06:54.000 I have a quick question about your new brother-in-law and wedding.

00:06:59.000 I went to an Indian wedding once.

00:07:01.000 On the invitation it said wedding starts at 6 p.m.

00:07:04.000 So me and the three other Caucasians that were attending this wedding, we showed up at 6 p.m.

00:07:08.000 for this wedding.

00:07:09.000 No one else showed up for literally two hours.

00:07:14.000 What you're doing right now is white supremacy.

00:07:16.000 Oh my god.

00:07:16.000 That's right.

00:07:17.000 Punctuality.

00:07:18.000 Punctuality.

00:07:19.000 I mean, Indian weddings are an impressive spectacle.

00:07:21.000 Yeah, so there were a couple different ceremonies and the second one that I attended, everybody was not punctual, but no one was two hours late.

00:07:30.000 The pictures were beautiful.

00:07:31.000 Thank you.

00:07:32.000 Yeah, it looked really fun.

00:07:33.000 Right on.

00:07:34.000 Well, Lydia, of course, is pressing all the buttons. 1.00

00:07:35.000 I am, yes.

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00:09:22.000 And can I add, I didn't even stir it.

00:09:23.000 It dissolved on its own.

00:09:25.000 And I jumped on the trampoline today and when I got off, I was walking up the steps and I felt a pain in my knee.

00:09:29.000 The first thing that went through my mind was, I hope we're doing collagen tonight.

00:09:32.000 I hope Biotrust come on.

00:09:33.000 People don't realize that Ian's 50.

00:09:34.000 57.

00:09:34.000 I'll be 59 tomorrow, yeah.

00:09:38.000 And I thought I was the old man.

00:09:40.000 Just keep living, man.

00:09:42.000 You'll get there.

00:09:43.000 Just because there's probably some people who've never heard the show or something, and they're like, wow, no, Ian's not 50.

00:09:47.000 No, I'm not 50.

00:09:48.000 I'm 42.

00:09:48.000 He may be wearing pajamas, and sometimes we have to wipe his nose, but he is not 50.

00:09:52.000 Thank you, Jack.

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00:11:28.000 That's great.

00:11:29.000 Let's talk about Miss Nicki Minaj.

00:11:31.000 Or is it Mrs. Nicki Minaj?

00:11:33.000 She married?

00:11:34.000 She had a baby.

00:11:36.000 So this just happened.

00:11:38.000 Like, literally, as we were sitting down, I was like, Mark Milley, traitor to the United States, when I'm slamming the table down, and then we're like, Now, I don't think it's necessarily more important than Mark Milley, a general, calling China and giving them warning about U.S. 0.72

00:11:58.000 plans, but I do think this is significant.

00:12:01.000 One, we're seeing a celebrity.

00:12:02.000 For those that haven't been following, Nicki Minaj is tweeting about the vaccine.

00:12:05.000 She's being lied about left and right in the media and I think this is a major... What should I say?

00:12:12.000 What was that movie where the guy was in the computer and then there were two pills and one of them woke him up?

00:12:17.000 Whatever that was.

00:12:17.000 It's about a word I can't say on this thing here.

00:12:20.000 No, you can say red pill.

00:12:21.000 So it's a major... I was making a joke!

00:12:24.000 It's a major red pill moment for a lot of people to see Nicki Minaj being like, hey they're lying about me.

00:12:28.000 She is married by the way.

00:12:29.000 Oh right, I'm Mrs. Nicki Minaj.

00:12:31.000 And the same thing happened with Kanye.

00:12:32.000 Kanye comes out and says something reasonable, and all of a sudden the media lies about everything.

00:12:36.000 So Kanye came out, I don't know if you guys saw this, and he was talking about the 13th Amendment.

00:12:41.000 The 13th Amendment allows slavery in the event of a criminal conviction.

00:12:45.000 And so Kanye was like, we gotta do away with that.

00:12:47.000 And they were like, Kanye calls for reinstating slavery or something.

00:12:50.000 And he's like, dude!

00:12:51.000 Like, they really go over the top with it.

00:12:53.000 So we have this tweet.

00:12:55.000 I just picked up whatever random verified Twitter user who had tweeted about it.

00:12:59.000 Okay, who had Nicki Minaj getting locked out of her Twitter account for reposting Tucker Carlson on their 2021 bingo card? 0.90

00:13:06.000 Anyone?

00:13:07.000 Nicki Minaj, we got some tweets from her.

00:13:10.000 Okay, so Stephen Colbert's show.

00:13:14.000 Oh, actually, it looks like CNN actually said this.

00:13:17.000 Alright, we gotta slow down.

00:13:18.000 This is a crazy story.

00:13:20.000 Fast developing. 0.92

00:13:21.000 Nicki Minaj tweeted that her cousin didn't want to get the vaccine because his friend got the vaccine and his balls swole up. 0.89

00:13:30.000 And then he became impotent and his fiance called off their wedding. 0.99

00:13:34.000 It's probably a ridiculous story. 0.90

00:13:36.000 I don't think it's true. 0.96

00:13:38.000 Oh, I bet it is true.

00:13:39.000 It's horribly, hilariously horrible, you know?

00:13:42.000 But true in the sense, like, did the vaccine have anything to do with it?

00:13:44.000 Oh, right, exactly.

00:13:46.000 No. 0.99

00:13:46.000 There's nothing on VAERS, like the Vaccine Adverse Event, where they're like, my balls are huge! 0.99

00:13:50.000 Like, no.

00:13:51.000 So she tweeted this thing out, and the media then started claiming Here's what they said.

00:13:56.000 In this CNN clip, they said she cited that reason as to why she's not getting vaccinated, which is not true.

00:14:04.000 Now, I gotta say, I actually had a minor argument with our friends over at TimCast.com talking about the article that was written up, because the original headline was like, Nicki Minaj says she won't get vaccinated to attend the Met Gala or something.

00:14:18.000 And then people were like, that's not a fair headline.

00:14:20.000 And I don't agree with the framing either.

00:14:23.000 And we talked about it.

00:14:24.000 So here's what's true.

00:14:25.000 Nicki Minaj said, the Met Gala wants you to get vaccinated.

00:14:29.000 If I'm going to get vaccinated, it's not going to be for the Met Gala.

00:14:32.000 And so the headline used on Timcast was Nicki Minaj refuses to get vaccine for Met Gala.

00:14:36.000 And I'm like, technically accurate.

00:14:38.000 Yeah, but I don't like that because Nicki Minaj said that the reason she's not traveling is 1.00

00:14:44.000 because she had a baby. And then she mentioned she's not getting, she's not going, the Met

00:14:49.000 Gala wanted the vaccines. And if she was going to get the vaccine, it wouldn't be for them.

00:14:53.000 This title I feel like makes it seem like she didn't go to the Met Gala because she didn't want to get vaccinated. 0.73

00:15:00.000 And so we discussed it and it's like, look, the headline is true.

00:15:02.000 She said she wouldn't get vaccinated for the Met Gala.

00:15:05.000 Like, I don't know how else we should frame it, like make a really long headline, and I'm like, alright, whatever, I defer to your judgment.

00:15:11.000 But some people in the comments posted something, and I'm like, good, you know, I'll let that be known.

00:15:15.000 My thoughts on it.

00:15:15.000 Nicki Minaj won't punch a Vax ticket to attend Met Gala.

00:15:20.000 Punch a Vax ticket?

00:15:21.000 Yeah, you know, get your Vax done.

00:15:22.000 Just saying.

00:15:23.000 You can condense it.

00:15:23.000 There was a way to do it, but I hear what you're saying.

00:15:25.000 I guess the issue is, you need the proper context.

00:15:27.000 The reason she didn't go, she stated, before any of this controversy, somebody was like, why haven't you done an appearance in a year?

00:15:35.000 She goes, I just had a baby, I'm not traveling.

00:15:37.000 Then when they were like, the Met Gala, she said, they require Vaxmanid, I wouldn't get it for them anyway.

00:15:42.000 But if you look at the full context of what she's been saying, she didn't go, not because of the vaccine, she even said she would get one to go on tour.

00:15:48.000 She didn't go because she's got a kid and she doesn't want to travel.

00:15:51.000 So now they're claiming one of the reasons she won't get vaccinated is because of swollen testicles. 1.00

00:15:55.000 Stephen Colbert did a whole bit. 0.97

00:15:57.000 This is the crazy thing that people need to understand.

00:15:59.000 When Sarah Palin was running with McCain, Tina Fey, who I think Tina Fey is brilliant, did this bit where she's like, I can see Russia from my house!

00:16:10.000 Sarah Palin never said anything like that. 0.87

00:16:12.000 That's ridiculous.

00:16:14.000 What Sarah Palin did say was something like, you know, in terms of foreign policy, you can actually see Russia from the westernmost point of Alaska.

00:16:23.000 And we actually have to negotiate with them on the Strait on trade.

00:16:25.000 So I think, you know, this is a major benefit for the office of the presidency.

00:16:28.000 And I'm like, it's actually a really great point.

00:16:30.000 As governor of Alaska, you have that trade route that goes between the Bering Strait or whatever.

00:16:35.000 And that means she has to work with Russia.

00:16:37.000 What happens?

00:16:38.000 A bunch of my friends, are like, oh man, look Sarah Palin thinks she can see Russia from her house.

00:16:43.000 I'm like, dude, that was Tina Fey.

00:16:46.000 That wasn't real.

00:16:47.000 And that's what we have going on right now.

00:16:49.000 So now, here's why I think this is important.

00:16:51.000 For one, we got, let me shout out some of these people.

00:16:55.000 One person responded with, because Nicki Minaj posted Tucker Carlson, and actually, did I pull that one up?

00:17:01.000 Okay, I don't have that one.

00:17:02.000 She posted Tucker Carlson, oh wait, I do have it, I do have it, yeah, with a bullseye.

00:17:06.000 It's a bullseye over Tucker Carlson's content.

00:17:09.000 And Hasan the Sun says, you know he's a white nationalist, right?

00:17:12.000 Okay, Tucker Carlson is not a white nationalist.

00:17:14.000 That's a lie.

00:17:16.000 And so Nicki Minaj responded to him and other people saying like, dude, I can point out when someone's telling the truth that doesn't make me political or whatever.

00:17:24.000 And then here's the crazy thing.

00:17:26.000 When multiple news outlets lied about like the swollen testicles thing. 0.87

00:17:30.000 She said, y'all are lying about me.

00:17:32.000 And people started saying, Nikki's on the side of the far right.

00:17:35.000 So she, you know, she's wrong.

00:17:37.000 If you question the media, you're far right.

00:17:39.000 That's far right now.

00:17:40.000 Yeah.

00:17:41.000 Well, look, Nikki, Nikki is in trouble from the jump. 0.99

00:17:44.000 You know why?

00:17:44.000 Because she's young money, young money, Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne, Donald Trump.

00:17:49.000 Yeah.

00:17:49.000 Lil Wayne's based.

00:17:51.000 No, for real.

00:17:52.000 She's in Young Money with Drake and Lil Wayne and Nicki.

00:17:56.000 And it's very clear Lil Wayne is a Trump guy.

00:17:59.000 They're clearly on a different tip.

00:18:01.000 Whatever tip that is, they're on their own one.

00:18:04.000 And I thought it was admirable, actually, what she said, which is that, like, I'm not traveling because I have a baby. 1.00

00:18:09.000 And I may or may not get the vaccine, but I sure as heck aren't getting the vaccine just to go to some stupid party with some lady wearing tax the rich on her butt. 1.00

00:18:19.000 So to me, I mean, that all adds up. 1.00

00:18:21.000 I do not listen to her music.

00:18:23.000 I probably don't appreciate her value so much.

00:18:25.000 But at the same time, I can see how her associations and her willingness to question the narratives and her willingness to just speak her mind.

00:18:34.000 Wasn't she the one that, like, saw, like, her tax bill or whatever, and she's just, like, going off on the taxes?

00:18:40.000 I mean, that all makes perfect sense to me.

00:18:42.000 These are just things normal people say.

00:18:44.000 So why is she being singled out?

00:18:46.000 Because she's got millions and millions of followers? 1.00

00:18:48.000 Because these are just random thoughts, man.

00:18:51.000 The media is a swamp full of, well, I don't know, if piranhas live in the swamps?

00:18:57.000 Or, like, rivers in the rainforest?

00:18:58.000 I don't know what they do.

00:18:59.000 But it is a swamp with some kind of swamp piranha.

00:19:04.000 And if you, you know, look, Nicki Minaj comes out and she said, you know, they don't they don't care about anything, she says, until she said, prey on it and make the choice for yourself, as we often say.

00:19:16.000 And that is the no, no, no, no phrase.

00:19:20.000 I mean, look, it stopped me.

00:19:21.000 If I go down a road, I'm not allowed to go down.

00:19:23.000 But the bottom line for me is that I've come to understand that this is a personal choice.

00:19:27.000 And frankly, You know, I don't know where this is going to go because, you know, I'm sensitive to all these things because I don't want to say the wrong thing.

00:19:33.000 I'm being censored.

00:19:34.000 I'm censoring myself.

00:19:35.000 Okay.

00:19:37.000 That's humanity.

00:19:37.000 You got to censor yourself a little bit as you go.

00:19:39.000 The point is, it's like, look, it is, it is a personal decision.

00:19:41.000 That's now not being allowed to be a personal decision.

00:19:44.000 And that is pretty much the bottom line.

00:19:46.000 When I, when I think about it and I think about whether or not I should do it for myself or my kids to do it for themselves.

00:19:52.000 Those are independent questions.

00:19:54.000 If somebody is bullying me into doing it, my first instinct is to just be like, nope.

00:19:59.000 I think the vaccine mandates do that.

00:20:01.000 Just no.

00:20:02.000 I've seen tons of people.

00:20:02.000 Do not bully me.

00:20:03.000 Tons of people tweeting, now because of the mandate.

00:20:05.000 Okay, I figured I spilled the bottle.

00:20:07.000 Tons of people tweeting, now because of the mandate, never going anywhere near any of this stuff.

00:20:10.000 Yeah.

00:20:11.000 And you know, the response on the left is like, well, you were never going to do it anyway.

00:20:13.000 And No, that's not true.

00:20:15.000 I would seriously consider.

00:20:16.000 I have all of my vaccines.

00:20:17.000 I just got a pertussis booster.

00:20:19.000 Oh my.

00:20:20.000 Right?

00:20:20.000 Like I had to do that when my kids were being bored.

00:20:24.000 Your moms are the mother-in-laws, the moms, they all had to get a pertussis booster just to come in and see the baby. 1.00

00:20:29.000 No one batted an eye at that.

00:20:32.000 Right.

00:20:32.000 Here's the issue.

00:20:35.000 When someone is like, after 28 years of research, and we have this vaccine or whatever, or decades, and then we've come to a legislative decision after many votes and many hearings on it.

00:20:43.000 That's the key phrase, legislative decision.

00:20:47.000 Well, when I elect somebody, and they say, we're gonna have a hearing in the Senate Committee on X, and it's having to do with vaccines, I'm like, these are all normal processes that I can watch on TV, can hear the arguments, and then there's a vote on it, and it's put through a legislative process.

00:21:02.000 I'm like, you got it.

00:21:04.000 When there's long-term data and stuff.

00:21:07.000 So here's my issue right now is, a vaccine mandate by decree?

00:21:10.000 Get out of my face. 1.00

00:21:12.000 Shut up, Ian! 1.00

00:21:12.000 I want to let you finish your thought. 1.00

00:21:16.000 There's no medical exemptions, there's no religious exemptions, and now you can see the government is giving exemptions only when they're scared.

00:21:22.000 So the Postal Service.

00:21:23.000 No, that's not true.

00:21:24.000 That was debunked.

00:21:26.000 Oh, was it?

00:21:26.000 Yeah.

00:21:27.000 Sorry.

00:21:27.000 But the nurses in New York, they were running short on nurses because nurses were refusing to get vaccinated.

00:21:32.000 And then the courts reversed it saying, okay, if you're a medical worker, you're good now because they were like, people are quitting and that's critical infrastructure.

00:21:39.000 I'll put it this way.

00:21:40.000 When someone's like, we have a hundred, we have hundreds of years of data on like polio and kids have like a 20% chance of like disability.

00:21:48.000 And like, by the time you're 50, you know, you're negatively impacted.

00:21:51.000 And we have this vaccine fine after a long period of time that I get.

00:21:54.000 When an executive just comes out and says it, and we have no long-term health effects or risk for pregnancy because the FDA insert doesn't include, it's like, we don't have data on that.

00:22:03.000 I can respect someone saying, I'm gonna wait.

00:22:06.000 You can't come to me and try and get in between me and my doctor.

00:22:09.000 That's my problem with this.

00:22:10.000 That it's like, I honestly think the vaccines are safe, you know?

00:22:14.000 I don't believe a lot of the high, you know, stressed out sensationalism you hear, like swollen balls or whatever.

00:22:21.000 I don't believe it, sorry.

00:22:22.000 I certainly think there can be adverse events, and some of them probably rare and extreme, don't get me wrong.

00:22:28.000 But regardless, I'm gonna do my research.

00:22:30.000 I'm gonna go talk to my doctor.

00:22:31.000 What do we have now?

00:22:32.000 Leftists?

00:22:34.000 These people claiming to be libertarian socialists or anything but? 0.99

00:22:37.000 Walking in between me and my doctor and saying, shut up, don't listen to him, go get the vaccine.

00:22:40.000 And I'm like, can you get out of my way so I can ask this guy, like, what he thinks?

00:22:43.000 Because, you know, Howard Stern comes out. 0.99

00:22:46.000 And he's like, Joe Rogan's doctor's a moron for prescribing him this medication. 0.99

00:22:50.000 And I'm like, Howard Stern, you're not a doctor! 0.99

00:22:54.000 How are we going to sit here and have them say, you're not a doctor.

00:22:56.000 You didn't do research.

00:22:57.000 And then I'm like, neither did you.

00:22:59.000 So when I, when I tweeted, don't just pull into a parking lot, go talk to your doctor, get them on the phone, ask them the questions you got to ask them.

00:23:07.000 People were like, why would you do that?

00:23:08.000 You're scaring people.

00:23:10.000 I'm like, yo, literally people on the left telling me that I was wrong to suggest people talk to their doctor.

00:23:16.000 That's where we're at.

00:23:17.000 So a few things there.

00:23:20.000 One, the thing that comes to mind first and foremost here is that there was no legislative process.

00:23:25.000 Okay.

00:23:27.000 Requiring all corporations of a hundred employers or more to have their employees be vaccinated sounds to me like a law.

00:23:35.000 Right.

00:23:36.000 And a law should be negotiated, discussed, debated in public and voted upon by your representatives that you send to Congress because it's going to affect basically everybody.

00:23:46.000 80 million people, I think, is what the target was with that 100 and up incorporation.

00:23:51.000 I think they said it'll affect 100 million.

00:23:52.000 100 million?

00:23:52.000 Great, yeah.

00:23:53.000 So what this is is a prime example of the way that the administrative state and the judiciary have stripped the legislature of all their power and basically ended our democracy, okay?

00:24:04.000 You have administrative state executive branch agencies that create a rule then they, it basically becomes law, then somebody files

00:24:12.000 lawsuit and the judge rules on whether or not that law is right.

00:24:16.000 That is how, or whether or not that rule is right. That is how laws are being made in America today, independent of

00:24:21.000 the legislature.

00:24:22.000 We do not have a democracy that, it is gone. The republic is gone.

00:24:26.000 Yes.

00:24:27.000 When the executive branch, administrative offices can make a rule, someone can protest it in the courts, and the courts rule on its validity, and then it becomes law.

00:24:35.000 That way, that means our republic is dead.

00:24:37.000 It is dead.

00:24:38.000 It is gone.

00:24:39.000 It is history.

00:24:40.000 And we now must move into a phase, what I've been calling now, re-found or die.

00:24:45.000 So what kind of government do we have?

00:24:46.000 We have a technocracy.

00:24:49.000 It's not a technocracy.

00:24:51.000 You know, technocracy typically is a reference to rule by technology, right?

00:24:55.000 No, no, no.

00:24:55.000 By technocrats.

00:24:57.000 By people who believe they're experts in their field, that they can scientific method their way to perfection, that they can resolve all human conflict and issues if we just try harder, legislate harder, administer harder.

00:25:07.000 That's not what we have.

00:25:08.000 Well, that's what the vaccine is.

00:25:09.000 It's a piece of science.

00:25:10.000 Technocracy is typically referenced to like, you know, a rule by those of science and technology.

00:25:17.000 Google?

00:25:18.000 Facebook?

00:25:18.000 Yeah, that's what the CDC is.

00:25:19.000 That's what OSHA is.

00:25:20.000 But Joe Biden making an OSHA rule isn't technocracy.

00:25:23.000 It's something else.

00:25:24.000 It's akin to... It's called tyranny.

00:25:27.000 Yes.

00:25:28.000 Let's break this down.

00:25:29.000 In the classically liberal democratic fashion.

00:25:33.000 Our government works as such.

00:25:35.000 We elect a representative for our area, they go and have a meeting where they draft a bill, say we want this to be law, that goes from their committees into the greater chamber where they vote on it, and then the executive signs off on it or vetoes it.

00:25:48.000 If there's a veto, and this is how most states work and how the federal government works, if they veto it, then you need a greater majority in the legislation to overrule him.

00:25:56.000 Here's how it works today.

00:25:57.000 The executor, the executive, the sovereign, drafts a rule to the people saying, you must comply!

00:26:05.000 And the people are allowed, only if negatively impacted, to question that law.

00:26:12.000 And then the courts, as you mentioned, will weigh as to whether or not the negative impact would justify striking down the executive decree.

00:26:23.000 That's very, very different from my representative drafts a bill, it goes to committee, there's a debate on it, there's hearings.

00:26:29.000 We're at the point right now where Joe Biden has done this on more than one occasion, completely shutting out the legislative and judicial branches.

00:26:37.000 Cuomo did the same thing.

00:26:39.000 So it's more of...

00:26:42.000 You can argue that, but we still get to elect the president or whatever.

00:26:46.000 Sure, fine, but that doesn't change the fact that there's no democracy when you appoint a sovereign to then just decree.

00:26:53.000 It's basically electing a king.

00:26:55.000 It's basically electing a king is what we're doing.

00:26:57.000 We're electing a king every four years, a guy that can just make decrees.

00:27:00.000 He can make decrees that are backed up by his minions and backed up by the courts.

00:27:04.000 And the police.

00:27:05.000 And the police.

00:27:06.000 It's really frustrating and sad and scary.

00:27:09.000 If you want to really learn about it, look up Dr. Marini.

00:27:12.000 This guy has written a tremendous amount on the administrative state.

00:27:16.000 It happens in every domain.

00:27:20.000 It happens in education.

00:27:21.000 It happens in finance.

00:27:22.000 It happens in healthcare.

00:27:23.000 It happens in security.

00:27:24.000 It happens in policing.

00:27:26.000 It happens everywhere.

00:27:28.000 And it's literally getting worse.

00:27:31.000 I don't know the stats on this, but I'm assuming this is right.

00:27:34.000 Each of the presidents is increasingly using executive orders to best the guy before him.

00:27:43.000 More executive orders, more executive orders, more executive orders.

00:27:46.000 And with Congress at its standstill, there's no legislation.

00:27:49.000 One last point on this.

00:27:50.000 When the legislature was founded in America, They would, the details on the laws would be like 600 tons of this, 42 tons of that, 1,000 feet of this, 10 miles of that.

00:28:03.000 They were as specific as possible.

00:28:05.000 Now it's just like, you know, protect the workers and then let the administrative state figure out how to do that.

00:28:10.000 Now it's disorderly conduct.

00:28:12.000 You can be arrested for anything.

00:28:13.000 Yeah, the cops can walk up and be like, you're being disorderly.

00:28:15.000 You're obstructing justice.

00:28:17.000 But let's talk about the process by which this vaccine mandate can be implemented.

00:28:21.000 Right?

00:28:21.000 So Ben Shapiro tweeted, there's no force in this country that's going to be able to

00:28:25.000 implement Biden's vaccine mandate.

00:28:27.000 You know, once your company has 100 people, then you got to test weekly.

00:28:31.000 Snitches.

00:28:32.000 is there is a force that can do it. For one, yes, if they do

00:28:36.000 bounties, you know, if they're like snitch on your company and

00:28:39.000 will give you a reward, but it's right. It's really simple.

00:28:41.000 I mean, it's the IRS. It's the IRS simply says, every year

00:28:45.000 when you file paperwork for each employee, you have to include

00:28:48.000 their their proof of vaccination with your tax return. And if

00:28:52.000 they're not vaccinated your weekly test of theirs, which is 52 per employee times 100, which is just a ridiculous cost

00:28:59.000 at a At a baseline, a baseline of a hundred.

00:29:02.000 And if you don't, if you miss one or lose one, $14,000 fine, and it's going to be on you.

00:29:06.000 Per incident.

00:29:07.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:29:08.000 If you have 52 per person and you miss one, 14 grand.

00:29:13.000 Imagine you've got an envelope full of the, with all the papers for the 52 weeks of proof, and then your dog eats it.

00:29:18.000 Well, there's 52 times 14,000 they're gonna tax you for your small business or a large business.

00:29:23.000 Now, here's the question.

00:29:25.000 Do you think law enforcement will come out to serve property seizures and arrest warrants for tax evasion when the IRS... They don't have to.

00:29:35.000 They don't have to.

00:29:36.000 You know what?

00:29:36.000 They can just lean your account without doing it, without even police action.

00:29:39.000 They just lean your finances.

00:29:42.000 But I'm asking if tax evasion Yeah.

00:29:45.000 is you're criminally charged because what happens is you get fined, the IRS fines you

00:29:52.000 $15,000, right, $14,000, and you don't pay it.

00:29:56.000 And they say you're in debt and then you try to get around it so then they put the pressure

00:29:59.000 on you.

00:30:00.000 I'm not saying they would do this.

00:30:02.000 They can enforce it this way.

00:30:04.000 But I'm just saying, if a warrant was issued due to failure to pay taxes or some criminal liability defined within the tax code, do you think that cop is going to be like, for the vaccine mandate?

00:30:15.000 That's wrong.

00:30:15.000 Or they're going to be like, tax avoider.

00:30:17.000 Of course, tax avoider.

00:30:18.000 Yep.

00:30:19.000 Yeah, they just get their marching orders and they go do it.

00:30:21.000 And they probably won't even get an order to be like, this is for the vaccine.

00:30:24.000 This is just a tax avoider.

00:30:25.000 They're going to say this is a business who owes us $200,000 in taxes they've been avoiding.

00:30:29.000 They've been given multiple warnings.

00:30:31.000 We've seized their assets, but now they're trying to obfuscate their debts.

00:30:35.000 How about this?

00:30:36.000 What happens if a company tries arguing that, oh, this is the proof of vaccination?

00:30:40.000 And they say, oh, that's fake.

00:30:41.000 Right.

00:30:43.000 So so I have been a bunch of points.

00:30:45.000 I remember in the in the late 90s, my first job was working for a consulting company that was still doing savings and loan bailout work from the 80s.

00:30:53.000 So an entire industry was built around what happened with the savings and loans in the 80s.

00:30:58.000 An entire industry has just been born, just been birthed around the vaccine mandate, around vaccine compliance, around vaccine audits, around testing audits, and negotiating and litigating.

00:31:15.000 This is a massive industry that was just created overnight and there's a thousand million consultants out there jumping at the bit to start their own business.

00:31:22.000 about in this field.

00:31:24.000 But the thing that troubles me the most about this is that Biden knows that he has no legal constitutional standing to do what he's doing.

00:31:32.000 And the way that you can tell that is that each part of their plan is like comes out of one weird, obscure angle.

00:31:39.000 One bit comes out of OSHA.

00:31:41.000 Another bit on the housing part comes out of the CDC.

00:31:45.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:31:46.000 And all of it says is that they pretextually need want to accomplish something.

00:31:51.000 And then they go about finding the way to get that done rather than using their constitutionally granted powers to exert the things that they've been elected to do. 0.94

00:32:00.000 The whole thing is a freaking joke. 0.93

00:32:02.000 The whole thing is tyranny. 0.97

00:32:03.000 We are not living in a republic.

00:32:05.000 You do not have the choice.

00:32:06.000 Your representatives did not debate this.

00:32:08.000 There was no debate on the floor.

00:32:10.000 There was no vote.

00:32:11.000 You did not consent to this and now it is being enforced upon you and it's not going to be By gun.

00:32:17.000 It's going to be by liens and seizures.

00:32:20.000 They're just going to snatch your stuff.

00:32:22.000 You're going to have to hire lawyers and accountants to fight this back.

00:32:26.000 Your Second Amendment rights don't have anything to do here.

00:32:28.000 You're not going to be able to defend yourself with your AR-15 against an oncoming onslaught of police coming to get your stuff.

00:32:35.000 You're going to have to hire an AR-15 worth of lawyers and accountants to protect yourself.

00:32:39.000 You can't defend your bank account with a gun.

00:32:42.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:32:44.000 Your second amendment here is being able to hire lawyers, being able to hire accountants to defend you from these liens and seizures that are going to come.

00:32:53.000 $14,000 per incident!

00:32:54.000 And so what I believe would end up happening is, take a look at the eviction moratorium stuff.

00:33:00.000 It's going to be cops enforcing this, and they're going to say, dude, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:33:08.000 Failure to appear.

00:33:10.000 This, you know, you had a summons.

00:33:12.000 This says tax evasion. 1.00

00:33:14.000 You're a criminal. 0.94

00:33:15.000 I have a story just like this. 0.97

00:33:17.000 I, when I got doxxed in 2018, I was in an ongoing online dispute with my former employer and I tweeted out to them.

00:33:26.000 I said, you think I'm going to go into the dark quietly?

00:33:29.000 I'm going to burn this whole thing down.

00:33:31.000 Figuratively.

00:33:32.000 Of course it was figuratively.

00:33:33.000 It was singing the blues.

00:33:34.000 Okay.

00:33:35.000 What happens at 11 o'clock at night?

00:33:38.000 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang on my door.

00:33:41.000 I'm in bed.

00:33:42.000 My kids are in bed. 0.99

00:33:43.000 I go downstairs fricking butt naked. 0.95

00:33:46.000 And there are two detectives with the badges hanging around their neck and a bulletproof vest and the windbreakers on. 0.97

00:33:52.000 And they had eight and a half by 11 printed out a sheet that just said, I'm going to burn this whole thing down.

00:33:58.000 I was like, what are you here for?

00:33:59.000 What are you here for?

00:34:00.000 The tweets, dude.

00:34:01.000 We're here for the tweets.

00:34:03.000 We're here for the tweets.

00:34:05.000 They didn't know why they got sent.

00:34:06.000 They didn't know the context.

00:34:07.000 They didn't know that I was an ongoing dispute.

00:34:09.000 They didn't know that I was a writer.

00:34:10.000 They didn't know that I was literary in my word usage.

00:34:13.000 They just had a tweet and an eight and a half and 11 blow up of my driver's license.

00:34:18.000 And they were just like this.

00:34:19.000 Is this you?

00:34:20.000 Yes.

00:34:20.000 Did you say this?

00:34:21.000 Yes.

00:34:21.000 Step outside.

00:34:23.000 That's what's going to happen a million times over and over again.

00:34:27.000 It's scary.

00:34:28.000 Yep.

00:34:29.000 So, uh, they can't enforce it.

00:34:32.000 And I think, you know, people shouldn't get caught up in this one particular thing either.

00:34:36.000 The eviction moratorium was government theft of property at a national level, government theft of property.

00:34:42.000 And you end up with the, here's why I'll tell you this.

00:34:47.000 There's a lot of hit pieces that'll come out and be like, Tim Pool claims to be center-left.

00:34:51.000 And it's like, well, yeah, because I can literally talk about my policy positions and what that means for being left-libertarian.

00:34:57.000 But is Hassan the Sun a left-libertarian?

00:35:00.000 No.

00:35:00.000 He's in favor of the government seizing your property.

00:35:03.000 Of the government the authority taking property from the working class away from them

00:35:07.000 He's in favor of executive decree mandating people be medicated same thing is true for Vosh. They're not libertarians 1.00

00:35:14.000 They can you know respect for Vosh coming on the show and having these debates, but he says he's a libertarian

00:35:18.000 socialist No, he isn't he celebrates the government mandating forced

00:35:21.000 medication on the people okay now I get it if it's a legislative decision. There's a

00:35:27.000 democratic process of Liberty where it's like we've come together to have a

00:35:32.000 discussion about what is right for the community Some people won't like it, but hey, in a republic, you don't always win.

00:35:37.000 And that means some people will still have to abide by an authority, but not authoritarianism, which would mean...

00:35:44.000 My view is, oh, vaccine mandates, if there's a long process, if there's long-term studies, if it's been argued out in the public, and we're not in a state of panic when we do it.

00:35:56.000 Authoritarian position is, the executor and sovereign shall decree the plebs do as they're told. 0.56

00:36:03.000 Man, you keep using this word sovereign.

00:36:05.000 The people are the sovereign.

00:36:06.000 That's the point.

00:36:07.000 I know it.

00:36:08.000 Just when you say it, you're triggering me each time because the people are the sovereign.

00:36:14.000 Now, I understand that in cases of emergency, the executive needs to act.

00:36:19.000 In a way that would solve time problems around the legislature convening to debate and to legislate.

00:36:28.000 Right.

00:36:28.000 OK.

00:36:28.000 And that and that concept is born of the fact that when John Adams had to go to the Constitutional Convention or whatever, he had to ride a horse.

00:36:36.000 It took him, you know, freaking four weeks to get there.

00:36:39.000 But today, yo, OK, Thomas Massey will explain.

00:36:44.000 That the legislators could be in DC in a matter of hours.

00:36:47.000 It's been 18 months.

00:36:49.000 Or Zoom.

00:36:50.000 Right?

00:36:51.000 It's been 18 months and they have not convened a session, to my knowledge, on the floor of Congress to be like, hey all, what should we do about this Corona thing?

00:37:03.000 Maybe they should.

00:37:04.000 What do you mean maybe they should?

00:37:05.000 They should just do it.

00:37:07.000 GD, they should do it.

00:37:09.000 GD, they should do it.

00:37:10.000 Wait, guys, I'm sorry.

00:37:12.000 People, the absence of your legislatures, legislating and debating on these things that impact your day to day life

00:37:18.000 is a sign you're living under tyrannical rule.

00:37:21.000 It's tyranny.

00:37:22.000 They don't care.

00:37:24.000 They just voted Newsom in.

00:37:25.000 They love it, bro.

00:37:27.000 They do.

00:37:28.000 You got to admit these people are sitting there with their hands like this with a boot and they're going, just licking 0.96

00:37:33.000 it.

00:37:33.000 And then they're smiling while they do it.

00:37:35.000 And they're like, why won't you lick it? 0.58

00:37:37.000 You know what?

00:37:38.000 You want to know what it is?

00:37:39.000 You ever see this video where the guy's in a mall or he's in a supermarket and he's got a mask and there's a woman filming and he's stalking her around yelling at her for not wearing a mask and he goes, is anybody else mad that we have to wear masks and she doesn't?

00:37:53.000 Oh, right.

00:37:53.000 Let's get her.

00:37:54.000 And that explains a lot of it.

00:37:56.000 Yeah.

00:37:56.000 Not all of it, but a lot of it.

00:37:58.000 There are people who are like, well, if I don't, you know, uh, help the, the, the authoritarians, then they'll come after me.

00:38:06.000 So I have to do it.

00:38:07.000 Then when they get mad, they have to do it and see someone else who's not doing it.

00:38:09.000 They get angry.

00:38:11.000 They're like, well, I have to do what you do too.

00:38:13.000 You know, it's weird.

00:38:14.000 I've been flying quite a bit.

00:38:15.000 I was just in Chicago for Jack Brunch.

00:38:17.000 Jackbrunch.com.

00:38:18.000 We're going to New York next weekend.

00:38:19.000 Come check us out.

00:38:21.000 And I don't wear my mask at all in the airport.

00:38:23.000 The only time I wear it is when I go through security and then as I'm going to get to the gate when I go on the plane.

00:38:29.000 And you know how many... I've been to Miami.

00:38:30.000 I've been to Las Vegas.

00:38:33.000 I have been all over.

00:38:34.000 And do you know how many times anybody's ever said anything to me?

00:38:37.000 Absolutely zero.

00:38:38.000 It seems like nobody in the airport really cares until you actually get on the plane.

00:38:43.000 And on the last flight I was on, the captain came out and instead of the flight attendant making the little spiel, the captain comes out and he's like, look, I'm supposed to say this real long thing, but I'm just going to tell you the way I see it.

00:38:55.000 And he goes, we have to do this.

00:38:57.000 And if you turn my flight attendants into the mask police, I'm going to throw you, I'm going to send you to the cops. 0.99

00:39:03.000 He's like, it basically, he was saying it all sucks. 0.98

00:39:07.000 Please don't make my flight attendants, who are just trying to earn a living, turn into some sort of masked Nazis. 0.99

00:39:14.000 I had to ask my wife afterwards, I go, did he say masked Nazis?

00:39:18.000 Because that was the vibe that he was putting out, right?

00:39:20.000 The captain, when have you ever seen the captain get out of the cockpit, come into the corridor, and make an announcement pre-flight?

00:39:28.000 I fly a lot, so.

00:39:29.000 You don't fly anywhere, do you?

00:39:31.000 No, I used to fly twice a week.

00:39:32.000 Okay, right.

00:39:33.000 But not recently.

00:39:33.000 Premium, platinum, top tier.

00:39:35.000 I've seen the cabins come out.

00:39:36.000 Yeah, totally.

00:39:37.000 And I'm sitting up front as well, too, but it struck me.

00:39:41.000 Not for something like that.

00:39:41.000 Because it's the flight attendants reading a thing.

00:39:43.000 But, like, nobody in the airport wants to enforce it.

00:39:47.000 Nobody wants to.

00:39:48.000 Nobody wants to enforce these things.

00:39:49.000 And back in March of 2020, when the first mask- I think you're wrong.

00:39:53.000 That's possible.

00:39:54.000 They do want to enforce it.

00:39:55.000 I haven't seen it, felt it, or anything.

00:39:57.000 I think they want it to be enforced, but no one really wants to do it.

00:39:59.000 Yes, they do.

00:40:00.000 They do want to enforce it.

00:40:00.000 Who is they?

00:40:01.000 I mean, it's fictitious.

00:40:01.000 The guy who came out and literally said, I'm enforcing this right now.

00:40:04.000 But Jack was just saying he didn't, he seemed like he didn't want to be there.

00:40:07.000 It seemed to me he was defending his flight attendant.

00:40:10.000 Which is the problem that I have with all this, is that all these mandates have deputized normal, ordinary people into becoming the police.

00:40:17.000 And these people want to do it.

00:40:20.000 Let me explain something.

00:40:21.000 So, a story you may have heard me tell.

00:40:24.000 When I had a friend say, I wish I could do what you do, I want to travel the world.

00:40:29.000 And I say, okay, buy your plane ticket and go travel the world.

00:40:32.000 And they were like, well, I don't have the money for it.

00:40:34.000 What do you mean?

00:40:34.000 You got this fancy apartment in Brooklyn?

00:40:36.000 Like, oh, well, I mean, You know, I don't want to lose my apartment.

00:40:40.000 I'm like, because you don't, you want the apartment more than you want to travel.

00:40:45.000 So when someone says, I want to do something, but they won't do it, they don't want to do it.

00:40:50.000 When someone says, I don't want to have to do it.

00:40:52.000 And they literally do it.

00:40:53.000 Yes.

00:40:54.000 Something made them want to do it.

00:40:56.000 Defending his staff.

00:40:58.000 That's what, that's what I felt like his motivation was.

00:41:00.000 So I can appreciate, I can appreciate that.

00:41:03.000 I can appreciate not, just like I don't want to be bullied into taking the vaccine, I don't want to be bullied into bullying my own staff to do things.

00:41:12.000 What would happen if he didn't do anything?

00:41:13.000 He would be cited and fined.

00:41:15.000 By who?

00:41:16.000 By the TSA.

00:41:17.000 How would the TSA even know what happened?

00:41:18.000 Somebody would report him.

00:41:19.000 And then he'd be like, you know, we didn't even know he was doing it.

00:41:22.000 We yelled at him.

00:41:22.000 He wouldn't listen.

00:41:23.000 Yeah, I'm not so sure about that.

00:41:24.000 Or how about this?

00:41:25.000 He just says, I don't care.

00:41:27.000 I'm not so sure about any of that, but look, I've noticed the enforcement is invariant is variable too.

00:41:32.000 I had one guy be like, you must put your mask up in between bites and sips.

00:41:37.000 And he said it like five times in between bites and sips.

00:41:41.000 And then on this other flight, they just don't care.

00:41:44.000 So it's, it's individual in some ways, but I hear what you're saying about collectively speaking.

00:41:49.000 No, as an individual, that man wanted to enforce it on you.

00:41:51.000 I think you can have conflicting wants, like, I want to eat a sugary cake, but I also want to be healthy, so I don't eat the sugary cake.

00:41:58.000 This guy, I'm breaking it down very, very simply, had a choice.

00:42:03.000 Enforce mask policy or don't.

00:42:05.000 Now, just because his motivation for doing so was external coercive pressures does not mean he didn't want to do it.

00:42:13.000 He wanted to more than anything else.

00:42:16.000 You're highlighting the major issue here, which is that the government is putting us all over the fire.

00:42:23.000 They're saying basically, if you want to drill all the way down what you're saying there, what you're saying is that guy wants to feed his kids.

00:42:29.000 And the risk is he's like, look, I can feed my kids or I can come out on the mic and be like, please put your masks on.

00:42:37.000 I think that if and that's a terrible, horrible, crappy thing

00:42:40.000 to do to a guy, a private citizen, a guy just working. I hate the fact that he's been deputized to enforce this

00:42:47.000 nonsense by threat of not of starvation of his children.

00:42:51.000 But but see that, what are you going to do if someone said, I'm sorry, someone said to you basically do this or your

00:42:58.000 kids are going to starve, Tim.

00:43:00.000 Where are your morals then?

00:43:01.000 Let there be troubles in my day so that my children will know peace.

00:43:04.000 Thomas Paine said that in Common Sense.

00:43:06.000 Anybody who's willing to sacrifice the future of their children doesn't actually care about them.

00:43:11.000 Look, I get it.

00:43:12.000 They say, Tim, you don't have kids.

00:43:13.000 You don't understand.

00:43:14.000 I'm like, okay, fine.

00:43:15.000 Whatever.

00:43:16.000 I'll just tell you this. 0.90

00:43:17.000 I tried quitting Fusion, you know, when I worked there and they were doing woke garbage.

00:43:20.000 I went to the president, said, cut my contract.

00:43:22.000 I don't want to be a part of this.

00:43:23.000 And he said, well, you know, we'll come back.

00:43:25.000 We'll talk about it.

00:43:26.000 So I couldn't do anything.

00:43:27.000 And I can respect that. 0.97

00:43:28.000 Like, I did not agree to enter a woke company and do woke garbage. 0.55

00:43:32.000 And then once they started doing that, I said, I won't do it.

00:43:35.000 And so I didn't do it.

00:43:37.000 And they basically just had me in golden handcuffs.

00:43:40.000 If I was a pilot, and they said, do this, I'd say, no.

00:43:45.000 And they'd be like, well, they'd fire you right away.

00:43:47.000 Okay, fantastic!

00:43:47.000 Great!

00:43:48.000 But it's not fantastic for people.

00:43:52.000 That's the problem.

00:43:53.000 I understand this black and white division. 0.66

00:43:57.000 I get it.

00:43:58.000 I totally get it.

00:43:59.000 And I'm in a luxury position where I can make the same statement.

00:44:04.000 Most people are not.

00:44:05.000 Most people are not.

00:44:05.000 And in fact, my luxury is running out because the mandate now is going to be that all varsity athletes in high school have to get a vaccine in Montgomery County, Maryland, where my kids go to school.

00:44:19.000 My son is a high school baseball player.

00:44:22.000 My daughter is a high school rower.

00:44:24.000 And if they want to continue on in the sport that they love, playing for the school that they like and that they go to, they're gonna have to get the vaccine.

00:44:33.000 What do I do then, Tim?

00:44:35.000 Do I tell my kids, forget baseball, forget crew?

00:44:38.000 Yes.

00:44:39.000 Man, I wish it were that easy.

00:44:41.000 You love the system more.

00:44:43.000 No!

00:44:44.000 No!

00:44:44.000 Then tell your kids not to play baseball!

00:44:48.000 That's like telling you not to wear a beanie and not to do this show.

00:44:51.000 No, it isn't.

00:44:52.000 Yes, it is exactly that!

00:44:53.000 No one's mandating I get vaccinated to do this show. 1.00

00:44:55.000 But if somebody put a gun to your head and said, look, you're gonna die or you have to take off your fucking beanie, excuse me. 1.00

00:45:01.000 I'd take it off! 1.00

00:45:03.000 That's the same thing for a kid in high school who wants to play varsity sports, who his whole life...

00:45:08.000 As a kid has been like, I want to play varsity baseball.

00:45:11.000 Baseball is not real life.

00:45:13.000 Baseball is not survival.

00:45:14.000 Baseball is something is a passion.

00:45:16.000 It trains people to become adults and it is a path to success.

00:45:20.000 It is a path to scholarship.

00:45:22.000 And you care more about that than your kids.

00:45:25.000 No, I care about my kids because those things are valuable.

00:45:27.000 You care more about the fact that could play baseball than the health and choices of your kids and their freedom.

00:45:33.000 First of all, they don't have the vaccine yet.

00:45:35.000 If I went to a skate park and they said, you can't come to a skate park unless you're vaccinated, I bet I ain't going to a skate park.

00:45:39.000 I know, but that's- I will go into a parking lot.

00:45:41.000 Go to another parking lot.

00:45:42.000 There's no other place to play varsity sports.

00:45:45.000 Then stop playing.

00:45:47.000 You see, this is it.

00:45:48.000 If you give people something, they will have something to lose and you will own them.

00:45:52.000 That's from the villain in Fast and Furious 4.

00:45:54.000 So your solution is to never have anything valuable to you?

00:45:59.000 No.

00:46:00.000 That's a Kathy Newman.

00:46:02.000 Oh, get out of here. 1.00

00:46:03.000 That's an inside joke and that was a major insult.

00:46:06.000 You ready to go?

00:46:06.000 I didn't say you can never have anything valuable.

00:46:09.000 I'm saying when your family's being coerced, you stand up and say no.

00:46:13.000 And what you're saying is, well, they're going to make my kids do it and the system in place that they control and the things they've given me are more important than my sovereignty.

00:46:21.000 So be it.

00:46:23.000 It's not that simple.

00:46:24.000 You can choose to live.

00:46:25.000 It's not that simple, dude.

00:46:26.000 You can buy a farm.

00:46:28.000 You can choose to work hard.

00:46:29.000 You know, it's not that simple, man.

00:46:32.000 You know what?

00:46:32.000 I wish I had that simplicity.

00:46:34.000 If it were up to me, they'd be homeschooled and playing private club ball all the time.

00:46:37.000 But guess what?

00:46:38.000 I've been divorced for 12 years.

00:46:39.000 I don't have sovereignty over that particular issue.

00:46:43.000 I can't just pick my kids up and move them across the country.

00:46:45.000 Right?

00:46:46.000 I don't have sovereignty.

00:46:48.000 Yes.

00:46:48.000 So what am I supposed to do?

00:46:50.000 Your issue is that the decision over your kids and the school they go to isn't yours.

00:46:54.000 Correct.

00:46:55.000 It's the state's due to a conflict with a next life.

00:46:58.000 Yes.

00:46:58.000 So the whole system has got me down, man.

00:47:01.000 And so what am I supposed to do?

00:47:02.000 Is my line in the sand going to be taking away from my children the thing that they love the most?

00:47:08.000 Well, do you want to say out?

00:47:11.000 14 and 16.

00:47:12.000 If it was me?

00:47:12.000 Yeah.

00:47:13.000 I'd do it in two seconds.

00:47:14.000 You would tell your kid that you have been coaching in baseball your whole life, that you have taught how to throw, how to pitch, how to bat, and you've talked your whole life about them being on a varsity sport and going into college to play Division I baseball, and you would look them in the eye and be like, just throw that away because daddy's got a political position?

00:47:31.000 You think your kid's being forced to undergo a medical treatment is a political position?

00:47:36.000 The statistics show very clearly that if you take the vaccine, you're pretty much going to be fine.

00:47:42.000 The statistics also show if you don't take the vaccine, you're pretty much going to be fine.

00:47:46.000 So I know that this is nothing but bullying.

00:47:49.000 It's nothing but bullying.

00:47:51.000 And they have found that open wound, that open nerve, that one thing that I can't fight, which is the happiness and success and fulfillment that my children feel.

00:48:02.000 They won.

00:48:03.000 They, dude, they've won.

00:48:05.000 I know this.

00:48:07.000 Yeah.

00:48:07.000 So what am I supposed to do about that?

00:48:09.000 Tell your kids, stop playing baseball, dude.

00:48:11.000 Just wait till you look your own 16 year old and be like, daddy's got a political point to make. 0.99

00:48:15.000 So you have to be miserable. 0.92

00:48:16.000 No, that's an oversimplification.

00:48:19.000 It's fair to say I don't have kids, so perhaps I don't understand the emotion you're feeling, but let there be troubles in my day so that my children will know peace.

00:48:27.000 It's not a political position to defend freedom and stand up against tyranny.

00:48:31.000 That is a responsibility, especially for an American.

00:48:34.000 But, being Division 1 baseball and being a successful baseball player is more important than choose that and just say it.

00:48:42.000 You're so simplifying it, man.

00:48:44.000 Sometimes men and boys, boys and men need a vocation in order to become a mature adult.

00:48:51.000 And right now, for my son in particular, being a baseball player is how he's learning responsibility, how he's learning discipline, how he's building his body, how he's learning about nutrition, how he's learning about risk-taking, how he's learning about courage, strength, loyalty, being a good teammate, competitiveness.

00:49:08.000 All those things are more important.

00:49:09.000 They're more important than personal freedom and sovereignty.

00:49:11.000 When I don't have a choice.

00:49:12.000 You do have a choice.

00:49:13.000 You just don't want to admit it.

00:49:15.000 You don't want to admit it, bro.

00:49:16.000 Actually, actually, at the end of the day, I'm not going to have a choice.

00:49:18.000 You know why?

00:49:19.000 Why?

00:49:19.000 Because if I take this all the way down to the final road, she's going to go to court.

00:49:23.000 She's going to get a court order. 1.00

00:49:24.000 The court's going to bring in their physician.

00:49:25.000 The pediatrician is going to say that the kids should get the vaccine and the judge is going to order it.

00:49:30.000 And that's going to be that.

00:49:31.000 And you'll have stood your ground.

00:49:33.000 Well, I have stood my ground so far and I do anticipate standing my ground as long as I can for as possibly long as I can until the absolute last drop dead point where I have to like rip the dreams out of my kids brains and hearts and crush them and make them cry in front of me.

00:49:47.000 That is as far as I'm willing to go.

00:49:50.000 And how many conversations, I can't tell you how many conversations I've had with people who are like,

00:49:54.000 I want to travel the world and produce documentaries and work for these companies.

00:49:58.000 And I say, well, then you've got to make sacrifices.

00:50:01.000 And they say, no, the state should give me the money.

00:50:03.000 No, they shouldn't.

00:50:04.000 How about you get rid of your apartment you like so much, but I've worked so hard to finally get my own place.

00:50:10.000 To have my own place.

00:50:11.000 To call my home.

00:50:12.000 I deserve this.

00:50:13.000 And if I want to be a journalist and travel the world and do these things, I shouldn't have to sacrifice having a place to live. 1.00

00:50:19.000 Yeah, but that's some bitch ass shit. 1.00

00:50:20.000 That's nothing. 1.00

00:50:21.000 That's nothing.

00:50:22.000 This is life.

00:50:23.000 That's nothing.

00:50:24.000 That's nothing.

00:50:25.000 That is making decisions between I want to drink beer or I want to drink water.

00:50:30.000 I want to work at this or I want to do that.

00:50:32.000 That is somebody's choice, okay?

00:50:34.000 We're talking about government-compelled vaccines and medical procedures.

00:50:38.000 But you have a choice to fight or capitulate to.

00:50:40.000 And I do and I will fight it as far as I possibly can.

00:50:42.000 But what I'm doing is I'm acknowledging that I will do nothing but fight and it will all be in vain because I know the entire system is built against me.

00:50:53.000 I am fighting, Tim!

00:50:54.000 I'm fighting every single day and I'm gonna fight.

00:50:56.000 You know who I'm talking to right now if you're watching?

00:50:58.000 I'm gonna fight all the way to the end.

00:50:59.000 Okay?

00:51:00.000 You know who I'm talking to.

00:51:01.000 I'm gonna fight all the way to the end. 0.98

00:51:02.000 The point I'm making is that I do not accept people coming to me using words to state how they feel about something and then immediately doing the opposite, proving everything they said was bullshit. 0.94

00:51:19.000 When someone says, I just wish I had chocolate cake. 0.86

00:51:23.000 And I'm like, there's all the ingredients in front of you.

00:51:25.000 I'm not gonna make it.

00:51:26.000 So you don't really wish you had it.

00:51:27.000 You're not willing to do what you need to do.

00:51:29.000 I totally understand that.

00:51:30.000 I totally understand that.

00:51:31.000 If the vaccine had a 20% rate of paralyzing kids, obviously this choice would be much more clear, right?

00:51:37.000 This negative side effects of the vaccine are almost the same as the negative side effects to getting Corona.

00:51:43.000 It's, they're very close.

00:51:45.000 We're talking about 99.9% of this or 99.9% of that.

00:51:48.000 You see the study that said that there's a higher risk of myocarditis than- Yes, I read that.

00:51:53.000 Of course, I have a history of pericarditis.

00:51:55.000 I have a history of heart inflammation.

00:51:57.000 I am completely zeroed in on this issue in particular.

00:52:01.000 That study was preprint.

00:52:03.000 It was- Look, I tweeted that study.

00:52:05.000 I was like, yes to this study.

00:52:08.000 It was pre-print, it was not peer-reviewed, it was only on a 120-day hospitalization rate, and it had some stale data, okay?

00:52:15.000 It wasn't perfect.

00:52:16.000 People have been tweeting out like it's been perfect, but it wasn't.

00:52:19.000 A lot of the stuff people have been tweeting out to counter the vaccine mandates are, like, imperfect.

00:52:24.000 It's all imperfect, and this is why I want more time.

00:52:27.000 The rate of change in the data is still so great.

00:52:31.000 But let's slow down.

00:52:32.000 This is not about the vaccine.

00:52:34.000 No, this is about being compelled by the government to do things that you don't want to do.

00:52:38.000 Exactly.

00:52:39.000 And so the issue is... The issue is, do I want to make my political point on the blood of my children?

00:52:46.000 No.

00:52:46.000 Or do I have an alternative route where I can make a political point that has more impact with less negative side effects?

00:52:53.000 And maybe I'm fucking cucking out, excuse me. 0.99

00:52:56.000 Maybe I'm being a B-I-T-C-H in this matter. 0.99

00:52:58.000 You just said the F word.

00:52:59.000 I know.

00:52:59.000 I'm sorry, dude.

00:53:01.000 But my point is, Sometimes the cost-benefit analysis, when it comes down to it, when it's your kids' hopes and dreams, and for me, I have alternative avenues, right?

00:53:12.000 Like, I have a show.

00:53:13.000 I have an audience.

00:53:14.000 I have influence.

00:53:15.000 I can make things happen.

00:53:16.000 I have a way to impact the world that doesn't revolve around me sacrificing my kids.

00:53:23.000 Well, how are you sacrificing your kids?

00:53:26.000 If I refused them, ultimately, at the end of the day, if the only choice they had was vaccine or athletics, and I said no athletics to them, that would be sacrificing them.

00:53:37.000 But there's other ways to engage in athletics.

00:53:41.000 One can, yes, if you move to Florida, if you move to West Virginia, if you move to Texas.

00:53:47.000 But again, I'm hamstrung. 0.96

00:53:49.000 I'm screwed. 0.98

00:53:50.000 It's how they win. 0.98

00:53:51.000 What do they want to do?

00:53:52.000 What do the kids want to do?

00:53:53.000 They want to play varsity sports and they don't want to be bothered by this.

00:53:58.000 How do your kids feel about getting vaccinated?

00:54:00.000 My son, you know, he's as based as it comes.

00:54:03.000 So he's kind of like, I don't know, maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't.

00:54:06.000 My daughter's like, I don't care.

00:54:07.000 I just don't want to be hassled.

00:54:09.000 Because they're not informed.

00:54:11.000 They don't really know.

00:54:13.000 So this is why I quoted the Fast and the Furious villain.

00:54:16.000 When he said, give the people something to lose and you own them.

00:54:19.000 Imagine what life would have been like for you and your family 300 years ago.

00:54:23.000 You wouldn't be having this conversation.

00:54:24.000 You'd be like, if my kids are gonna eat, they're gonna go break their backs in the fields all day with me.

00:54:28.000 Now you're like, my son needs to play baseball.

00:54:31.000 Don't mock it like that.

00:54:33.000 I'm not trying to mock it, but let's put it... There are very few places in this world today where a young man can learn virtue.

00:54:40.000 Okay?

00:54:41.000 Competitive sports is a place where you can learn virtue.

00:54:45.000 Courage.

00:54:47.000 Honor.

00:54:48.000 Loyalty.

00:54:49.000 How about an MMA gym?

00:54:51.000 Vax Mandate in DC, bro.

00:54:55.000 What am I supposed to do?

00:54:56.000 They're boxing me in in every which way possible.

00:55:00.000 Well, without leaving the... Learning virtues, practicing virtues is a political statement of it to itself.

00:55:09.000 There's three states within like an hour of D.C.

00:55:12.000 I mean, actually, Virginia and Maryland are literally in D.C., basically.

00:55:17.000 You can live in D.C.

00:55:18.000 and cross the street and be in Maryland or Virginia.

00:55:20.000 Indeed.

00:55:21.000 And then it's an hour to West Virginia where they don't have these things.

00:55:24.000 And you could go to a gym or whatever.

00:55:27.000 The point is, man, what I'm saying is Yeah, it sucks, but if someone tells me, like, these things are wrong, however baseball's more important, I'm like, just say it.

00:55:37.000 Oh.

00:55:38.000 Character development.

00:55:39.000 Virtue development.

00:55:41.000 Yes.

00:55:41.000 All of those things through baseball that your son learns are more important than like standing up to tyranny.

00:55:48.000 You talking about building for the future.

00:55:51.000 Building a child that is virtuous, is courageous, is honorable, is loyal, is perhaps more important for the long term than making a political stand in a losing battle today.

00:56:05.000 It is a tactical retreat.

00:56:09.000 So that you can be stronger and better for the future.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, but if we go this route, there's not going to be a stronger, better future.

00:56:16.000 It's going to be continued capitulation by more and more people who refuse to make a stand.

00:56:20.000 Look, I'm getting texts that the comments are calling me blue pilled and teaching submission and stuff like that.

00:56:25.000 Fine.

00:56:25.000 I'm sure people are telling me I don't have kids.

00:56:27.000 F you guys. 1.00

00:56:28.000 F you guys.

00:56:29.000 Okay.

00:56:29.000 Wait until you're in my exact particular position and you have to make these calculated decisions.

00:56:34.000 This is why they're doing it.

00:56:36.000 They're doing it to make us go through agony.

00:56:40.000 Agony.

00:56:42.000 I told you the story about the wolf and the family.

00:56:44.000 I read the story.

00:56:45.000 I told a lot because it really made me think.

00:56:47.000 I read this article about a family was on a beach and they were by themselves when a black wolf started walking down and the father saw it and panicked.

00:56:57.000 And then all the kids, it was like three kids, the mom and the dad, and they swam out to a rock that was like 20 to 50 feet off of the shore.

00:57:05.000 And they were huddled together on this rock, shivering as the wolf paced back and forth, terrified, begging for help and praying that someone would save them.

00:57:12.000 And I'm like, man, I wonder what would have happened if this was 300 years ago.

00:57:17.000 Look, for real, I mean, would the father have even brought his wife and daughters with him in the first place if he did?

00:57:22.000 Because they were going to the beach, because humans like to go to the beach.

00:57:24.000 Maybe they'd be working and fishing.

00:57:25.000 And the wolf showed up?

00:57:27.000 What would the dad would have done?

00:57:28.000 I don't know, drawn his single-shot flintlock and his sword and said, stand back, family?

00:57:33.000 Wearing, like, leathers of some sort?

00:57:36.000 Or would he have, you know, cowered as well?

00:57:39.000 I don't know, maybe it's romanticized in the past to assume that the father would have been like, take the kids and run, and then drew his sword and stared down the wolf and said, you know, and if the wolf charged him, he would have fought to the death to save his family.

00:57:51.000 In the modern age, you know, I was thinking about this, how like, We walk around with literal thin like less than a millimeter thin cloth You know back in the day people Many often would carry weapons and wear hide or furs or leathers things substantially thicker to protect themselves from the elements We're so safe and coddled.

00:58:10.000 We snap our fingers.

00:58:11.000 We get food.

00:58:12.000 We go outside.

00:58:13.000 We wear shorts flip-flops Totally soft-bellied and unprepared and more and more people in these cities are giving up their rights to self-defense and the right to keep in bare arms.

00:58:24.000 And I'm not saying, I'm not passing a moral judgment.

00:58:26.000 I'm just saying, I wonder how different things would have been.

00:58:30.000 I wonder what our ancestors would say about us today when they would hear these stories.

00:58:34.000 You know, and it's like, I gotta make a decision between having my apartment or having my, my, accomplishing my goals.

00:58:42.000 Or I have to make a decision between owning this refrigerator that's got a tablet in it or the dishwasher that's gonna do the extra scrub cycle.

00:58:50.000 And I'm like, are these the problems that, you know, it's, it's, you know, I've been, I've been feeling more and more that we're, we're in behavioral sync.

00:58:58.000 When the problems of our day is that the government has gone from a republic of elected officials gathering together to legislate on our behalf, for the most part, and our hearings and our discussions and journalism challenging these things, it's gone from that to an executive ruling by decree and people now are saying, But dude, I love those chicken wings.

00:59:24.000 You know, so if they mandate it, I'm just gonna say fine.

00:59:27.000 You know, I know I'm opposed to the mandates, but I really want to perform at this club, and it's gonna make money for me, so I'll just do it.

00:59:36.000 There are a lot of people right now, and I'm not gonna shout anybody out, because there are some people I have tremendous respect who have been hitting me up, saying that when the mandates started passing in the cities, they started canceling their shows.

00:59:45.000 Jim Brewer did it.

00:59:46.000 Some other comedians.

00:59:47.000 Christy Mayer did.

00:59:48.000 Who did?

00:59:48.000 Christy Mayer.

00:59:49.000 Yeah, she did, yeah.

00:59:49.000 Oh, well, yeah, yeah.

00:59:50.000 And there you go.

00:59:51.000 Look, guys.

00:59:52.000 Sacrificing income and their comforts.

00:59:53.000 Let me just make things perfectly clear, especially to you-know-who if you're watching.

00:59:56.000 I'm going to fight this until a judge orders me otherwise, okay?

01:00:00.000 But for the sake of argument, I'm expressing all my emotions and my feelings about this matter.

01:00:05.000 I am agonizing over this.

01:00:07.000 This is existential.

01:00:09.000 OK?

01:00:10.000 It's historic.

01:00:11.000 This is about our country, our values.

01:00:13.000 It's about everything that we're doing here in our society.

01:00:16.000 And I am fighting it. 0.99

01:00:17.000 And it sucks. 0.99

01:00:18.000 And it hurts. 0.99

01:00:19.000 And it's hurting me.

01:00:20.000 It hurts.

01:00:21.000 You ever hear the story of, it was one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

01:00:25.000 His wife was captured and used as a prisoner of war in an exchange.

01:00:28.000 There's this viral meme that goes around about everything that was lost by the signers and it's exaggerated.

01:00:34.000 I actually went through the list and I sought to fact check a lot of this stuff because I wanted to make sure I was accurate when I was talking about the sacrifices made by those who signed the Declaration of Independence.

01:00:42.000 I think only one guy was killed.

01:00:44.000 Some were imprisoned, briefly.

01:00:47.000 Most, uh, not most, but a handful lost their homes to British occupation.

01:00:50.000 One guy had his wife, they went to his house, ransacked, took his wife, and held her as a prisoner for a prisoner exchange.

01:00:56.000 So these guys, uh, I think it was John Adams who has a quote where he said, like, basically, paraphrasing, we're gonna lose.

01:01:03.000 And we're gonna lose everything.

01:01:04.000 Swearing on our you know our sacred blood and honor, you know to stand by this and they thought they would lose Everything and yet the thing is the founding fathers didn't just put up their names and their treasure and their homes They put their children on the line and their wives on the line But this is this is something that I have thought about extensively which is the conditions for winning are not Present.

01:01:28.000 Okay.

01:01:29.000 I am NOT going to be the one a Gallipoli That jumps out of the trench and runs into a machine gun nest Just because the generals haven't figured out a way to create the conditions for victory in 1770s the conditions for victory were there

01:01:49.000 Obviously.

01:01:51.000 The risk that they took wasn't in vain.

01:01:56.000 Obviously.

01:01:57.000 Okay?

01:01:58.000 The conditions for victory exist.

01:01:59.000 They do not.

01:02:01.000 They do.

01:02:01.000 Currently, at this moment in time.

01:02:03.000 Yes.

01:02:04.000 Okay, then why aren't you down at the White House throwing a coup?

01:02:08.000 How is that a condition for victory?

01:02:09.000 How are you going to win?

01:02:10.000 What are you going to win right now, Tim?

01:02:11.000 Tell me, what are you going to win?

01:02:12.000 Well, for the one thing, we just filed for two different non-profits.

01:02:15.000 One is a fact-checking organization.

01:02:17.000 That's not winning, dude.

01:02:18.000 That's fighting.

01:02:19.000 I'm talking about the conditions for winning.

01:02:20.000 The conditions for winning require you engage in the conflict.

01:02:24.000 Engaging is different than sacrifice.

01:02:27.000 I will not martyr my children in a hopeless cause at this point in time.

01:02:31.000 We're having a semantic problem.

01:02:31.000 You're arguing that there's literally nothing you could do right now to flick a switch and it would all be over.

01:02:35.000 Correct.

01:02:35.000 We need to change the conditions such that a martyr type activity could lead to a victory.

01:02:43.000 We do not have the conditions.

01:02:44.000 Martyrs right now would just be jumping off a cliff.

01:02:47.000 That's it.

01:02:47.000 No gain.

01:02:48.000 So what's to be gained by keeping your kid in baseball?

01:02:52.000 Creating a virtuous man that has talent and opportunity.

01:02:55.000 There's no other way to do that?

01:02:56.000 There are other ways to do that.

01:02:58.000 There are other ways to do that.

01:02:59.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:03:01.000 Why not choose those?

01:03:02.000 I won't have a choice.

01:03:03.000 A judge is going to order me.

01:03:04.000 Sure, sure.

01:03:05.000 So you can stand up and get to that point.

01:03:06.000 I will stand up and I will get to that point.

01:03:08.000 I will get to that point.

01:03:10.000 And if it were me, I'd say, thank you, your honor.

01:03:13.000 Have a nice day.

01:03:13.000 And I'd walk out, you know, pat my son on the head and say, all right, you know, this is the way thing goes.

01:03:18.000 We'll keep pushing through because sometimes you don't win every battle, but you don't lose your head over it.

01:03:23.000 So I would say, you don't gotta, like, if it were me, I wouldn't be angry.

01:03:27.000 I wouldn't be, I mean, I'd be like, Angry, but not in the sense where it's like you're energized by it to the point where you're yelling and stuff.

01:03:35.000 Like if it were me, I'd be like, we got to be tactical.

01:03:37.000 We're pissed off for sure.

01:03:38.000 And if we lose this battle, we'll keep pushing on.

01:03:41.000 If, uh, if it were me, however, I'd say baseball's out, I guess.

01:03:44.000 Look, ultimately I think someone who's 14, I think in this capacity, you should ask your son what he wants to do.

01:03:52.000 And if he says, I accept this and I will play baseball.

01:03:55.000 I say, all right.

01:03:56.000 I mean, ultimately that's what it's going to come down to.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, and then I would say, okay, you know, you're 14 and there's certain things I wouldn't let them choose to do.

01:04:04.000 And some things I'd say, you know, ultimately it comes down to this.

01:04:07.000 I genuinely think the vaccines are safe.

01:04:09.000 I, I, I, I, there's a lot of people who think that there's a lot of, you know, crazy adverse reactions.

01:04:13.000 We talked about the Nicki Minaj stuff and I'm like, I honestly think these kids are going to be fine.

01:04:18.000 I think the reason we see such high VAERS reporting is because such a high rate of vaccination.

01:04:23.000 It is, as you stated, a political conundrum where the executive is taking over and we're trying to push back against it.

01:04:28.000 Right.

01:04:28.000 So you've correctly addressed the calculus here, which is, this is not, I'm not going to ultimately give in to tyrannical power at the expense of my children's health.

01:04:39.000 Okay.

01:04:40.000 If it were specifically about my children's health, I would fight it.

01:04:44.000 Gunpoint.

01:04:46.000 Okay.

01:04:47.000 To the end, to the death.

01:04:50.000 But the truth is, this is not necessarily about their long-term health, right?

01:04:55.000 Take the vaccine.

01:04:55.000 You'll be fine.

01:04:56.000 Don't take the vaccine.

01:04:57.000 You'll be fine.

01:04:57.000 This is all about politics.

01:04:59.000 So the question now is, is I'm going to make a political statement versus that.

01:05:03.000 If it was a political statement versus their health and wellbeing, that's a different story.

01:05:08.000 And that's how they get you though.

01:05:09.000 That's the, that's, that's the nuance.

01:05:12.000 And again, I'm fighting this.

01:05:13.000 We're just having a discussion.

01:05:14.000 I'm throwing this out there to be open and honest so that other people out there who are having these similar feelings can relate and know that they're not alone and that we can talk and share about the barrel that the government is putting us over and the way that they're torturing us with this, which is why I'm talking about all this.

01:05:31.000 I remember when I was on, uh, in the 2018 Rogan I did with Dorsey or whatever, at the end of the episode, you know, towards the end, I said, if you keep doing what you're doing, we'll get to the point where people are going to be shooting each other in the streets.

01:05:44.000 I don't know, I don't remember the exact quote I had, but I was like, it's going to get crazy.

01:05:47.000 And, uh, well, this stuff started to happen.

01:05:49.000 But the point I made was I'm building a van.

01:05:51.000 And I built a van.

01:05:53.000 And I have the van.

01:05:54.000 And I was like, and if I have to, I'll take my van down by the river.

01:05:56.000 Yeah, you will.

01:05:57.000 I remember that video.

01:05:58.000 I remember you made a video where you're like, I'm literally getting in my van and I'm going down to the river.

01:06:03.000 And that's that.

01:06:04.000 So the point I'm making with that is not some people have been like, Tim's talking about abandoning and no, no, no, no, no.

01:06:09.000 I'm saying there is nothing you can take away from me.

01:06:12.000 That would make me stand down.

01:06:15.000 You like, you would have to physically remove me, put me, lock me up, do whatever.

01:06:20.000 If it came down to actual like civil, civil war and like real conflict, they'd have to like drag me into, you know, kicking and screaming into a pen or something.

01:06:28.000 And so, yeah.

01:06:30.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.000 I hear you, man.

01:06:32.000 I hear you.

01:06:32.000 Shall we talk about something else?

01:06:34.000 I think we should.

01:06:35.000 Okay.

01:06:35.000 Let's talk about this ethics violation for AOC.

01:06:38.000 Good conversation, though.

01:06:39.000 Yes.

01:06:40.000 Check out this story.

01:06:41.000 There's a twofold story here. 1.00

01:06:42.000 AOC is a hypocrite and a liar. 1.00

01:06:43.000 We got this from TimCast.com. 1.00

01:06:45.000 Ethics complaint filed against AOC for accepting free Met Gala ticket.

01:06:50.000 AOC wore a Tax the Rich dress to the exclusive event.

01:06:53.000 There's a lot of people I see who are like, why does anyone care about this? 1.00

01:06:57.000 So dumb. 0.98

01:06:58.000 But I'll tell you, this issue of AOC has the left completely fractured. 0.99

01:07:03.000 And you can really see who the true leftists are when they call out AOC.

01:07:09.000 There is a hardcore communist cartoon avatar Twitter account that won't shut up and hates everybody because everybody Nazis, won't stop ragging on AOC for being a limousine liberal, for being a villain in the Hunger Games, and I'm like, I think these people genuinely are communists when they say that stuff and they call out AOC for being a capitalist corporate shill who's going to a Met Gala $35,000 event.

01:07:32.000 And then you get high-profile leftists who are like, I think it's good she did it.

01:07:36.000 You know?

01:07:37.000 And they're posting this meme.

01:07:38.000 You know that meme where the guy's like, I think we should improve society somewhat?

01:07:42.000 And then the guy pops out of the well like, yeah, you live in society.

01:07:45.000 I'm very intelligent.

01:07:46.000 It's like, yo.

01:07:48.000 Saying that we should improve- I love that comic, because whenever someone posts it, you know that they're not smart.

01:07:53.000 Because saying something like, I think it's bad that, you know, people at Foxconn labs are, you know, killing themselves, or had been, and then that was the gist of, like, the argument that, you know, people on the right were like, oh, these leftists are protesting this stuff, but they're using iPhones.

01:08:08.000 Yes.

01:08:09.000 When you buy the iPhone, you are quite literally voting with your dollars for those companies to continue those horrible conditions.

01:08:15.000 You are allowed to participate in society, and you have an option.

01:08:17.000 You buy an Android phone.

01:08:19.000 You can check into where it's made, and maybe it's got parts from Foxconn, or you can try and get a phone that's made somewhere else.

01:08:25.000 Hope that it's not.

01:08:27.000 So AOC is getting a knack for this complaint.

01:08:29.000 And here's the big issue.

01:08:29.000 Here's where I think everyone should be calling this out.

01:08:32.000 She received a gift of $35,000.

01:08:35.000 Now, I made the argument... Man, I got allergies.

01:08:38.000 I made the argument that it could be considered a consideration for an appearance.

01:08:42.000 Come on, getting that high-profile, progressive 12 million followers?

01:08:46.000 They give her a free ticket, that gives them tremendous value.

01:08:50.000 Look at the buzz around the Met Gala.

01:08:52.000 People don't even know what the Met Gala is, and now they do because they comped a ticket for AOC and she got them press.

01:08:58.000 Sounds to me like the ticket was consideration, which is legal exchange of value.

01:09:02.000 In which case, she would owe taxes on that and be committing, uh, it's an ethics violation. 0.99

01:09:07.000 It might actually be a crime.

01:09:09.000 Regardless.

01:09:11.000 People who are in Congress cannot receive these kinds of gifts.

01:09:14.000 Could you imagine?

01:09:15.000 I mean, what they're doing?

01:09:17.000 Go to any politician and be like, we're having a charity event.

01:09:21.000 Everyone gets a free meal.

01:09:24.000 You can hang out with celebrities, go on TV.

01:09:26.000 It will be great for your re-election campaign.

01:09:28.000 Now, it costs a hundred grand, but don't worry, we're comping the gift to you.

01:09:32.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:09:33.000 I have a guy in the liminal order that used to work in the Trump administration.

01:09:36.000 And during the time that he was working there, I kept saying to him, I'm like, hey, man, you know, join up.

01:09:43.000 I'll give you a discount.

01:09:44.000 Join up.

01:09:44.000 I'll give you a discount.

01:09:45.000 He's like, dude, I can't.

01:09:47.000 He's like, I can't take a discount.

01:09:50.000 It's a bribe.

01:09:50.000 It was a few hundred bucks.

01:09:52.000 Okay.

01:09:53.000 And the guy refused.

01:09:54.000 And the day he got out of office, he signed up.

01:09:57.000 Okay.

01:09:58.000 This is, this is the level of integrity that I've seen from people working in Trump administration.

01:10:03.000 And then now you see AOC taking this comp for consideration for $30,000 without batting an eye.

01:10:09.000 You got Nico a little behind you being eaten by Joe Biden, mind you.

01:10:12.000 That's a G-Prime 85 comic.

01:10:14.000 George Alexopolis is great.

01:10:15.000 And Nico a little bought herself, what was it, a million-dollar apartment?

01:10:18.000 I thought it was three million, but... No, no, that's Hasan. 0.98

01:10:20.000 That was Hasan, yeah.

01:10:21.000 Yeah, so she's the tax-the-rich, OK Boomer, Bernie shirt-wearing girl who buys herself a million-dollar property. 0.64

01:10:28.000 And, you know, my issue with it is, the first thing I'll say is congratulations.

01:10:37.000 You've earned your success.

01:10:37.000 You've inspired people.

01:10:38.000 I don't think people aren't allowed to be rich.

01:10:41.000 And I think that for the positions of many of these people, they're not overt communist tankies like seize everyone's wealth for the state.

01:10:49.000 So they still believe in getting rich, but there is still this level of hypocrisy where they frequently come out in favor of authoritarians.

01:10:57.000 I don't know what Nico Lulz is all about.

01:10:58.000 I don't think she's even political for the most part.

01:11:00.000 But like Hassan, for instance, frequently comes out on the side of authoritarianism.

01:11:05.000 And then buys himself a massive property and I'm like, I'm not going to believe you're actually a leftist if you just say things and then do things that are like contradictory to your beliefs.

01:11:17.000 AOC accepting a $35,000 gift and then what does she say?

01:11:20.000 I wanted to show a working class woman of color, you know, bring in the protest to them. 1.00

01:11:27.000 And I'm like, dude, you're there smiling and laughing and like hanging out with these billionaires and celebrities.

01:11:31.000 The protest would have been, I'm not going. 0.99

01:11:34.000 Screw you. 0.98

01:11:34.000 I'm out front. 0.98

01:11:36.000 Tax the rich.

01:11:37.000 All the rich are inside, y'all.

01:11:39.000 We should be taxing all of them.

01:11:41.000 If she really wanted to protest, she should have been standing on the red carpet and as everyone walked by, she'd throw red paint on them and be like, Tax the rich! 1.00

01:11:50.000 I'm not throwing red paint on them.

01:11:51.000 Fine, but you know what I'm saying.

01:11:53.000 But she could have said, she could have stood outside, got a camera and said, I was invited

01:11:59.000 to this event.

01:12:00.000 They expected me to accept consideration of $35,000 to come to their fancy event.

01:12:06.000 While I think it's fine people are allowed to have these events.

01:12:09.000 I said, no, I won't take your bribe.

01:12:12.000 Tax the rich.

01:12:13.000 And now we're going to be out... She didn't do that. 0.97

01:12:15.000 She went inside, she had her meal, and she had a staff member carrying her dress for her.

01:12:19.000 Ethics violation.

01:12:21.000 Now is anything going to happen to her for this?

01:12:23.000 Probably not.

01:12:24.000 She'll probably get like a million Twitter followers for it or something. 0.98

01:12:26.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:12:27.000 She's one of the people that knows that politics is downstream. 0.99

01:12:31.000 She knows People Magazine is where it's at, not Politico.

01:12:35.000 The country is over.

01:12:36.000 You mentioned it earlier.

01:12:36.000 The Republic's gone.

01:12:37.000 Gone.

01:12:38.000 Mark Milley, General.

01:12:41.000 Oh yeah, I had the phone call with China.

01:12:43.000 I warned them.

01:12:45.000 I think that was the Milley thing, it's a different topic.

01:12:47.000 The point I'm bringing up with this is that we're at a point where AOC can accept basically a $35,000 bribe, okay?

01:12:56.000 And Mark Milley can call the Chinese military and say, you know how we're in a conflict that's been escalating and you've been engaging in militaristic actions that we've been telling you to stop doing?

01:13:06.000 We won't attack you, don't worry about it.

01:13:09.000 So they're pressing on Taiwan.

01:13:10.000 We send in a strike group.

01:13:12.000 They start loading up these missiles so we diversify our air force around the Pacific Islands.

01:13:18.000 And then Millie's like, just don't worry, we're not gonna attack you.

01:13:22.000 That seems like something you shouldn't tell your enemy when they're doing things in violation of international law.

01:13:28.000 He particularly thinks they're not the enemy.

01:13:30.000 I saw a thing from a couple years ago where he was saying they're very powerful, they're getting stronger, but that doesn't mean they're our enemy.

01:13:34.000 So, the point is, we can watch Fauci lie to Congress, and Rand Paul can have the evidence in a document that says the NIH funded gain-of-function research Nothing will happen.

01:13:47.000 Lies. 0.99

01:13:48.000 AOC.

01:13:48.000 He just sat there and lied.

01:13:50.000 James Clapper.

01:13:51.000 Lied to Congress.

01:13:52.000 That's right. 0.97

01:13:52.000 Those Hillary Clinton emails were so insane. 0.97

01:13:55.000 The Sidney Blumenthal stuff in Libya.

01:13:57.000 So insane with Osprey Global Solutions.

01:13:59.000 We came, we saw, he died. 0.93

01:14:00.000 I mean, it was so corrupt.

01:14:02.000 But I mean, the Federal Reserve is so corrupt.

01:14:03.000 You might ask yourself why I'm not ahead.

01:14:04.000 It's so obvious.

01:14:06.000 It's so obvious if you look at it, but if you don't look at it, it's not obvious.

01:14:10.000 And people, they don't, they look past it when they see it.

01:14:12.000 They don't understand it.

01:14:13.000 So they don't even see it.

01:14:14.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:14:14.000 I gotta, I gotta be honest.

01:14:15.000 I don't think we lived in a Republic since 1913.

01:14:17.000 No, we definitely have not.

01:14:19.000 These people, you know, they're getting bribed.

01:14:21.000 Like, I mean, it's not a legitimate Republic.

01:14:23.000 There are people there representing, but they're, they're getting bribed.

01:14:27.000 Remember when Jay, uh, when Lindsey, Lindsey Graham, I think it was, goes out, he's complaining about the election and stuff.

01:14:32.000 Then he goes out and he fist bumps Kamala Harris.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, that triggered you hard.

01:14:36.000 It's all nonsense.

01:14:37.000 Tax the rich means confiscate private property.

01:14:40.000 All the communists believe they're gonna be the commissars. 1.00

01:14:43.000 They're all just stupid. 1.00

01:14:44.000 I got no problem with a right-wing politician walking up to a left-wing politician and giving a fist bump. 1.00

01:14:50.000 I got a problem with them grandstanding on TV pretending like they're morally opposed and then behind closed doors being like, I have a problem with people claiming to be fighting for something, and they don't actually fight for it.

01:15:01.000 You know what one of the problems is right now?

01:15:03.000 Mark Milley should be court-martialed.

01:15:06.000 Hands down.

01:15:07.000 Vindman, of all people, I think he tweeted this out.

01:15:11.000 I don't know where he posted it, but I think it was a tweet where he said that if this is true, Mark Milley usurps civilian authority by breaking the chain of command.

01:15:20.000 The New York Times reported on this on January 8th, with an update on the 13th, that Nancy Pelosi, Well, look, there's a few pieces of data missing. 0.99

01:15:29.000 Maybe Trump told Milley we're not going to attack China.

01:15:33.000 Maybe he told him that.

01:15:33.000 But that's not what happened.

01:15:34.000 But maybe he knew that.

01:15:35.000 But the issue is, the reporting is that it was a secret call outside of the chain of command and that Mark Milley convened a secret meeting at the Pentagon instructing senior officers to essentially defy legal orders from Donald Trump.

01:15:49.000 What, on the nuclear strike thing?

01:15:50.000 Yes, after a call from Nancy Pelosi.

01:15:53.000 Now what happened was the New York Times reported on January 8th.

01:15:55.000 Can we define something very quickly?

01:15:58.000 Look, I am not a Mark Milley fan.

01:16:00.000 I am a Donald Trump supporter.

01:16:02.000 I hate Nancy Pelosi. 1.00

01:16:04.000 I'm on the right side, but I have questions.

01:16:07.000 My first question is, what is the actual exact nuclear launch protocol?

01:16:13.000 What does that have to do with this?

01:16:14.000 Because does the president just say launch the nukes and then some guy in a silo turns the key?

01:16:19.000 Or does it have to go from the president to the joint chief down the chain of command?

01:16:25.000 What does it have to do with?

01:16:27.000 Because as far as I read the text specifically Milley said, if we're talking about a nuclear strike, I have to be part

01:16:35.000 of it or something like that.

01:16:37.000 Right?

01:16:37.000 Which reinforced the chain of command.

01:16:40.000 Or what he thought was the chain of command.

01:16:43.000 What is the actual chain of command?

01:16:45.000 If Trump says, launch the nukes!

01:16:48.000 What is the actual literal next step?

01:16:50.000 Does he give the order to the Joint Chiefs?

01:16:54.000 And then the guy that turns the key has to take the order from the Joint Chiefs?

01:16:57.000 Or does he have to take it from the President?

01:17:01.000 This is a very important, crucial distinction.

01:17:03.000 Let me break this stuff down for you.

01:17:06.000 The Hill reported, the forthcoming book says Milley conducted secret meetings at the Pentagon after January 6th.

01:17:12.000 Secret from whom?

01:17:13.000 To ensure former President Trump could not launch a military attack.

01:17:16.000 Secret from the public?

01:17:17.000 Secret from Trump?

01:17:18.000 From Trump.

01:17:20.000 To ensure that Trump could not launch an attack.

01:17:23.000 A military attack.

01:17:24.000 So specific.

01:17:26.000 Look, I'm a Trump guy.

01:17:27.000 I'm not a Millie guy.

01:17:28.000 I just want to have the facts so we can argue the right things.

01:17:32.000 And so he specifically said, if Donald Trump says attack.

01:17:36.000 You come to me.

01:17:38.000 Look me in the eyes right now and swear an oath.

01:17:40.000 You will come to me with this.

01:17:44.000 But Trump gives a lawful order to an officer, and then he says, no, you come to me instead.

01:17:51.000 I'm not in the military.

01:17:52.000 I have no idea how this works.

01:17:55.000 Is an enlisted guy supposed to take an order directly from the president?

01:17:58.000 Or does an enlisted guy have to take an order from his commanding officer?

01:18:01.000 You gotta stop because I was about to address this before you jumped in.

01:18:05.000 The New York Times reported that when Pelosi contacted Mark Milley, saying she was concerned about Donald Trump launching a military strike, that it seems Mark Milley offered no consideration to this request.

01:18:19.000 And the Department of Defense, several Department of Defense officials were angered by this, saying that if they actually did plan on circumventing the chain of command, it would be a military coup.

01:18:33.000 Vindman said, if this report is correct, that Milley usurped civilian authority, breaking the chain of command.

01:18:40.000 I am not saying it is my opinion this happened.

01:18:42.000 I'm saying New York Times reported, DOD officials said, if they sought to break the chain of command, it would be a military coup.

01:18:49.000 Right.

01:18:50.000 If they sought to break the chain of command.

01:18:51.000 But we haven't defined what the chain of command is yet.

01:18:53.000 Vindman said it was.

01:18:54.000 But Vindman said that the president can give an enlisted guy an order that all of the commanding officers disagree with and the enlisted guy has to do it?

01:19:02.000 I don't... Jack, I think your questions are completely irrelevant.

01:19:05.000 I think that you're supposed to only answer to your immediate officer, your immediate superior.

01:19:10.000 And then if another greater superior comes over and tells you something, you're like, sorry, man, this is my superior.

01:19:13.000 None of this is relevant to my point.

01:19:14.000 That's what Forrest Cooper told me.

01:19:16.000 None of this is relevant to my point.

01:19:18.000 My point was that According to the New York Times, when they initially reported this, they said Pelosi tried to make it happen.

01:19:26.000 It didn't happen.

01:19:27.000 And so I report that as Pelosi attempts military coup against Trump.

01:19:32.000 And I said, I'm not going to mince words.

01:19:34.000 If the New York Times reporting Department of Defense officials said what Nancy Pelosi attempted to get them to do would have been a military coup. 1.00

01:19:40.000 That's what I'm going to say happened.

01:19:42.000 And a lot of people on the left were angry by it.

01:19:44.000 No, No, that didn't happen. 0.60

01:19:45.000 She was just trying to stop a crazy man from starting a war.

01:19:48.000 And I'm like, I don't care.

01:19:49.000 The New York Times reported this.

01:19:51.000 I'm not going to give my opinion.

01:19:52.000 I'm going to stay with the New York Times reported.

01:19:54.000 Vindman says that this report, and you don't have to trust Vindman.

01:19:57.000 I'm just making the point that you have many people coming out right now, even people on the left saying this broke the chain of command.

01:20:05.000 He gave information to an adversary without conferring with the president.

01:20:12.000 That seems like a big problem to me.

01:20:13.000 Treason?

01:20:14.000 No, we're not declared enemies of China.

01:20:16.000 We actually have a ton of agreements with them.

01:20:18.000 We're not at war, although we literally are at war, we're not- Well, they're at war with us.

01:20:23.000 We're at war with them, we are.

01:20:24.000 Well, they're at war with us.

01:20:26.000 They're engaging, they're waging war on us.

01:20:28.000 Not technically.

01:20:29.000 The point is, we didn't declare war against them, so it's just an off-the-books conflict, I guess you can call it, but they've been attacking our critical infrastructure for a long, long time.

01:20:39.000 So anyway, the point is, Millie, according to the reports, had a secret phone call with Chinese military, telling them outright, all of our posturing, all of our ships going through China, we're not going to attack you.

01:20:55.000 That actually makes me think that we have way better ties with the Chinese government than it seems.

01:21:00.000 That we're really safe and there's not going to be any physical conflict.

01:21:05.000 China recently had a strike group go into the Alaskan economic zone.

01:21:10.000 And look, when China says, we will... Right up next to the economic zone.

01:21:16.000 When China says, we will take Taiwan. 0.93

01:21:19.000 When China's actively sinking fishing boats in the South China Sea, claiming control over it.

01:21:23.000 When they're illegally building military bases on the atolls.

01:21:27.000 And the U.S.

01:21:27.000 can only saber-rattle.

01:21:30.000 And then, the best we have is saber-rattling.

01:21:32.000 Mark Milley, in October, before the election even happened, calls them and says, don't worry, we're not gonna attack you.

01:21:40.000 And if we are going to, I will give you advanced warning.

01:21:44.000 Is this not, and again, I'm not a Millie fan.

01:21:47.000 I'm a Trump supporter.

01:21:48.000 I believe China's waging war on us, et cetera.

01:21:51.000 I just wanted to know the facts.

01:21:52.000 Okay.

01:21:53.000 If we're conducting a military exercise, do we not notify our adversaries in advance that we're conducting a military exercise?

01:22:01.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:22:01.000 Are you asking that if we're going to fire a missile on our enemy to declare war, we would warn them first?

01:22:06.000 An exercise.

01:22:07.000 But that's not what we're talking about.

01:22:08.000 He said, so you need to understand what's been going on all last year.

01:22:13.000 China has been actively pushing on the Pacific in many ways that are considered illegal.

01:22:18.000 Sinking fishing boats, for instance, has been a huge red flag for the U.S.

01:22:22.000 and their allies.

01:22:23.000 So the U.S.

01:22:24.000 deploys destroyers into the South China Sea, challenging China's claims over the territory.

01:22:29.000 China's trying to put enough pressure on the U.S. 0.97

01:22:31.000 to get us to back down so they can eventually declare sovereignty over the area.

01:22:35.000 One of the things stopping them was that China was scared if they kept pressing, the U.S.

01:22:39.000 would attack.

01:22:40.000 I see.

01:22:41.000 So Mark Milley is reported in the full report from the Washington Post in the book.

01:22:46.000 They specifically state, because China was concerned that the U.S.

01:22:51.000 would be prepared to attack them, Mark Milley called them in October of 2020 to warn them not to worry.

01:22:56.000 We will not attack you.

01:22:58.000 Everything is fine.

01:22:59.000 And in the event we will launch an attack, I will call you and warn you first.

01:23:04.000 That was him pledging to an adversary in the event war were to break out, he would side with them.

01:23:10.000 He would give them warning of our military plans.

01:23:13.000 And by stating that we will not attack you, he completely undermined everything the U.S.

01:23:18.000 had been doing in the Pacific to stop China's encroachment in the Pacific.

01:23:23.000 When China was scared we were going to attack, I'm not saying war is good.

01:23:27.000 No, it's bad.

01:23:28.000 But if China was like, hey, the U.S. 0.68

01:23:30.000 might attack us, You think that's a deterrent?

01:23:33.000 So he undermined that completely, going outside of the chain of command to do so, secretly, secretly contacting the Chinese military to inform them.

01:23:42.000 And he said, as you mentioned, Ian, in the past, when he said that China's not our enemy, China's been conducting cyber warfare against us for There's way I don't forever.

01:23:50.000 They're very clearly waging war on us.

01:23:52.000 There's no question about it.

01:23:53.000 I'll tell you by my number, my number one source.

01:23:56.000 And look again, I'm just trying to figure out what the facts are right here.

01:23:59.000 And I'm not an expert.

01:24:00.000 Look, I know a lot of stuff about a lot of things, but I do not.

01:24:03.000 I'm not an expert on Chinese incursions into the South China Sea.

01:24:06.000 OK, I can admit that the source of my skepticism.

01:24:12.000 is the fact that this was reported in a Bob Woodward book.

01:24:16.000 OK?

01:24:17.000 Yeah.

01:24:17.000 And just if it really confirmed it.

01:24:20.000 Fine. 1.00

01:24:21.000 But if it came out last year and it was about Trump and it was about Bob Woodward, everyone on our side or my side, at least, would be like that Bob Woodward is an idiot and a liar. 1.00

01:24:31.000 That's that. 1.00

01:24:31.000 That's yes. 1.00

01:24:32.000 But he confirmed it.

01:24:33.000 Fair enough.

01:24:34.000 Yeah.

01:24:34.000 He said it was fair enough.

01:24:35.000 It was he said it was acceptable and routine.

01:24:38.000 And we regularly maybe maybe it is acceptable and routine.

01:24:42.000 So the issue I suppose then is, when you've done something that's so shocking, once again you see everyone on the right saying, this is shocking if true, that even people on the left are coming out.

01:24:51.000 Like that's why I cited Vindman specifically.

01:24:53.000 I'm not trying to claim that he's an expert and authority on this.

01:24:56.000 I'm saying he's the guy who tried to get Trump impeached, or who did get Trump impeached, now coming out and being like, this broke the chain of command.

01:25:02.000 But aren't there also other incidences where like, we've attacked people, and I think this is pretty common.

01:25:07.000 We're like, we're going to launch a missile on this base.

01:25:10.000 Like with Trump in Syria.

01:25:11.000 You should move some people out of there.

01:25:13.000 We don't want to kill a bunch of people.

01:25:14.000 We just want to blow up a bunch of equipment. 0.57

01:25:16.000 We're launching this missile.

01:25:17.000 Missile's coming.

01:25:19.000 I mean, notifying our adversaries in advance of a military attack is not unprecedented.

01:25:24.000 Not in the age of limited war.

01:25:25.000 I think the issue is that he went around Donald Trump.

01:25:28.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:25:29.000 Again, I'm asking questions.

01:25:30.000 Let me read something for you.

01:25:31.000 I can feel the comments in the back of my head.

01:25:33.000 This is New York Times.

01:25:34.000 New York Times, January 8th, with an update on January 13th, they mentioned Speaker Pelosi of California took the unprecedented step of asking the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff about available precautions to prevent Trump from initiating military action abroad or using his sole authority to launch nuclear weapons in the last days of his term.

01:25:52.000 So apparently he has sole authority to launch nuclear weapons, I guess.

01:25:55.000 General Milley has appears to have made no commitments.

01:25:58.000 That's what they said in January.

01:26:00.000 We now know that he did.

01:26:01.000 In fact, had a secret meeting at the Pentagon where he, according to the book, and again, you don't got to believe Woodward, he asked these officers to effectively swear an oath to him that if Trump gave him an order, they'd go to him with it first.

01:26:14.000 That's the question I want to know.

01:26:16.000 That's the question I want to know.

01:26:17.000 So let me read.

01:26:18.000 Can the president?

01:26:19.000 Yes, I understand the question.

01:26:20.000 Let me read.

01:26:21.000 Milley made no commitments.

01:26:22.000 Mrs. Pelosi's request, which she announced in the Democratic caucus as an effort to prevent an unhinged president from using the nuclear codes, was wrapped in the politics of seeking a second impeachment of Trump.

01:26:30.000 Colonel David Butler, spokesman for General Milley, confirmed the phone call with the Speaker had taken place, but described it as informational.

01:26:37.000 He answered her questions regarding the process of nuclear command authority.

01:26:40.000 But some Defense Department officials clearly resented being asked to act outside of the legal authority of the 25th Amendment, and saw it as more evidence of a broken political system.

01:26:51.000 They said that some political leaders were trying to get the Pentagon to do the work of Congress and Cabinet Secretaries, who have legal options to remove a President.

01:26:59.000 Mr. Trump, they noted, is still the commander-in-chief.

01:27:02.000 Unless he is removed, the military is bound to follow his lawful orders.

01:27:06.000 While military officials can refuse to carry out orders they view as illegal, or slow the process by sending those orders for careful legal review, they cannot remove the president from the chain of command.

01:27:17.000 That would amount to a military coup, the officials said.

01:27:20.000 Okay, that being said, if Vindman is correct in saying that this broke chain of command, if there was another retired colonel on Fox News who said outright this was an illegal action by Milley if true, he should be brought into Congress, put under oath, and testifies to what happened.

01:27:35.000 We have people, left, right, military, coming out and saying this was a subversive action against the United States.

01:27:42.000 Treason?

01:27:42.000 We're not at war with China formally, in which case I don't think it counts as treason.

01:27:48.000 Court-martialable.

01:27:49.000 I'm not in the military.

01:27:50.000 I wouldn't know if it goes against the military code or anything like that.

01:27:54.000 But I certainly think that Mark Milley has acted beyond reproach.

01:28:00.000 The secret meeting at the Pentagon.

01:28:01.000 Now this one's not confirmed.

01:28:03.000 What is confirmed is that Milley has admitted to this phone call with China on more than one occasion.

01:28:07.000 In October and on January 8th.

01:28:10.000 The claim from the left and the mainstream media is that he was just trying to stop an unhinged president who he had seen, who he believed was in mental decline following an insurrection attempt.

01:28:18.000 Except he made the first call in October, according to the reporting, well before an election took place.

01:28:24.000 So imagine Donald Trump, who's been very, very bullish on going up against China, Imagine he won the election.

01:28:31.000 He had already been undermined by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who went behind his back to contact China.

01:28:39.000 And that's admitted.

01:28:39.000 Now, he said, it's routine.

01:28:40.000 You know, I talk to the militaries of all these other countries all the time.

01:28:44.000 But there's a lot of people in the military who said, not true.

01:28:47.000 OK, so here's why I see it.

01:28:49.000 Fine.

01:28:49.000 Maybe it's not treason.

01:28:51.000 Maybe it's not court-martialable.

01:28:53.000 How about the people who are requesting an investigation and inquiry into this one?

01:28:57.000 Get it.

01:28:57.000 And we get to the bottom of it.

01:28:59.000 and then we determine whether or not he brought senior officers into the Pentagon to tell them

01:29:02.000 that if Trump gives you an order you bring it to me. We still in that article didn't get a

01:29:07.000 clear delineation of what the nuclear command structure is.

01:29:10.000 Well I suppose they pointed out its sole authority of the president.

01:29:14.000 But what is the chain of command?

01:29:16.000 Does the president go to the key turner directly or does it have to go down the line?

01:29:22.000 That's important distinction.

01:29:23.000 You know, well, so let's put it this way.

01:29:24.000 We spent so much time parsing text when it came to Trump and watching the left take things that Trump said that were specifically accurate, but then expanding it into being generally inaccurate.

01:29:35.000 And I just don't want us to do that.

01:29:38.000 Like, I just want us to be specific and right and justified in our critiques.

01:29:42.000 So the ultimate question is, can Donald Trump get on the phone to—they don't use NORAD anymore, I guess—but can he get on the phone to a commander at a military base with nuclear capabilities and say, launch the nukes?

01:29:53.000 Yeah.

01:29:54.000 I believe the answer is yes.

01:29:54.000 I believe the answer is no.

01:29:56.000 You don't think?

01:29:57.000 My instinct is.

01:29:57.000 I have no other basis.

01:29:59.000 Trump is the one with the nuclear football.

01:30:01.000 Who else would be able to do it?

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 I don't know.

01:30:03.000 It seems to me that in something that could end the world, that we would want it to go down the chain of command from one officer to the commanding.

01:30:10.000 I think the Democrats tried to make that happen.

01:30:12.000 Actually, they tried to take Biden's sole authority for the nuclear launch codes away and give it to somebody, give it to more than just him.

01:30:19.000 I think it's him.

01:30:20.000 I understand the question is down the chain of command.

01:30:23.000 I... I would be surprised if Trump could not call, you know, Strategic Defense, you know, a commander, a captain, a major, a general, or whatever, who has the ability to turn the key and say, this is President Donald Trump calling on the red phone.

01:30:38.000 He could, you know, I'm sure he'd have to call a general, I suppose, but he doesn't have to call Milley.

01:30:42.000 Right?

01:30:42.000 So if Milley, as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, now here's the important part.

01:30:45.000 As chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he's not active in the military.

01:30:48.000 He's an advisor.

01:30:50.000 So it's semantic, but my understanding based on the reporting is that as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he acts as the senior military advisor to the president and doesn't make the decisions himself, which means Trump would not go to him to execute the decisions.

01:31:03.000 He would go to the senior officers, the generals, and say, do it.

01:31:07.000 For him to come out and be like, no, you come to me instead.

01:31:10.000 I don't know, man.

01:31:12.000 Calling China at a time when we're facing Thucydides's trap sounds to me like providing aid to the enemy.

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:20.000 I'm with you on that.

01:31:21.000 How about we go to Super Chats?

01:31:23.000 Let's do it.

01:31:24.000 Maybe there'll be a general in the Super Chats who can explain. 0.96

01:31:26.000 Oh yeah, and so we got a ton of superchats because we all said so many things that we weren't clear on and people are going to provide for us those clarifications.

01:31:34.000 So here Google says, the United States has a two-man rule in place at nuclear launch facilities and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified.

01:31:45.000 And it's not Mark Milley.

01:31:46.000 It's not Mark Milley.

01:31:47.000 an authentic order given by the president, there is an hierarchy, etc, etc.

01:31:50.000 And it's not Mark Milley.

01:31:51.000 It's not Mark Milley.

01:31:52.000 So he has a secret meeting.

01:31:54.000 It has to be verified by the SECDEF and it not have to be verified by the Joint Chiefs

01:31:58.000 up according to a preliminary Google search.

01:32:00.000 You know, that's a military coup.

01:32:02.000 Yeah, that's whack.

01:32:03.000 It's whack.

01:32:03.000 And look, my instinct is to say, yes, Millie and Pelosi are a coup, treason.

01:32:11.000 But I want us to be very specific in what we're saying.

01:32:14.000 And I'm not going to take anything that Bob Woodward says at face value.

01:32:17.000 I agree.

01:32:18.000 It's not treason.

01:32:20.000 Oh, because of the war.

01:32:20.000 giving it to the enemy. Well, no, no, like if this meeting happened, assuming it is in the

01:32:25.000 reporting is correct, it would just be I think sedition, you know, against the government.

01:32:31.000 Oh, wait, a command signal or watch alert would then be issued to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

01:32:36.000 Oh, okay.

01:32:37.000 The President would then review the attack options with the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and decide on a plan which could range from a single cruise missile to multiple ICBM launches.

01:32:46.000 All right, so there it is.

01:32:47.000 If the President, who is the Commander-in-Chief, decides to order the use of nuclear weapons, they would be taken aside by the carrier and the briefcase would be opened.

01:32:55.000 A command signal or watch alert would then be issued to the Joint Chiefs.

01:32:59.000 Now here's the other question.

01:32:59.000 Okay.

01:33:00.000 So clearly, if you read the text very explicitly, Millie says, basically, I want you guys to just make sure that you include me in this.

01:33:12.000 And that appears to be the exact process.

01:33:14.000 Considering we know that he went to one of our greatest adversaries and provided them with key insights into our military plans?

01:33:21.000 No doubt.

01:33:22.000 Do you believe his spokesman, when his spokesman says, don't worry, it was just informational and it was just to confirm the process, the legal process for launching a military action?

01:33:35.000 Now here's the other question.

01:33:37.000 That's what I felt like when I read it.

01:33:38.000 If Trump wants to launch a military strike, does he need Mark Milley?

01:33:41.000 Yes.

01:33:42.000 That's a nuclear strike.

01:33:45.000 If Donald Trump wanted to send commandos into Yemen, would he need Mark Milley's approval?

01:33:50.000 I don't think so.

01:33:51.000 So that's the issue, is that the New York Times said it was about military action or nuclear strike.

01:33:56.000 Gotcha.

01:33:57.000 Well, as soon as I heard the story, it struck me as being reasonable that the Joint Chiefs of Staff would have to be involved in a nuclear strike decision.

01:34:04.000 And so... I think the nuclear thing's the red herring.

01:34:07.000 Yeah, it is.

01:34:07.000 It's the conventional war.

01:34:08.000 Because if Milley's not supposed to be involved in a conventional war command from Trump, and he's telling them to give him that information, then that's outside the box.

01:34:17.000 How do you convince people on the left that, they say, Trump's mentally declining, insurrection, and we can't let him use nukes?

01:34:25.000 When the actual core of all the articles is that stopping Trump from military action.

01:34:31.000 We wouldn't nuke China. 0.76

01:34:32.000 We'd send in a destroyer and fire some cruise missiles or something, non-nuclear or whatever.

01:34:37.000 So maybe.

01:34:38.000 I don't know.

01:34:38.000 I know that Trump signed off on a bunch of crazy raids and stuff, and civilians died and all that stuff, drone strikes, things like that.

01:34:46.000 I don't know if he has to get approval from the Joint Chiefs to do it.

01:34:48.000 I guess my main point in general is not to have amnesia about people that we don't trust.

01:34:55.000 They say one thing, we're like, oh, we don't trust you. 1.00

01:34:57.000 You're an idiot. 1.00

01:34:58.000 And then they say something that we like. 1.00

01:34:59.000 We're like, oh, you're absolutely right.

01:35:02.000 I'm looking just for a little bit more rigor.

01:35:06.000 The whole point in this exercise is about rigor so that we can be right and we can be prepared and we can defend our positions.

01:35:13.000 So, uh, one super chat that just came in.

01:35:15.000 Uh, I'll read, I'll read two.

01:35:17.000 I'll go to the beginning, but I'll read these two just for the sake of what we're here.

01:35:21.000 Base Player says, the President does have sole authorization to release nuclear weapons.

01:35:25.000 Upon the order for launch, the, uh, the, upon the order for launch, the orders and codes are sent to the launch sites.

01:35:32.000 Officers on duty authenticate the codes, and if they are authentic, they fire.

01:35:36.000 Ghost of Recon says, the Joint Chiefs have no decision authority.

01:35:39.000 They are not in the chain of command.

01:35:42.000 That's not what our preliminary Google search says.

01:35:45.000 No, it does.

01:35:46.000 It doesn't say that he's not involved.

01:35:47.000 It's saying he's not in the chain of command.

01:35:49.000 So the issue then is we need an under oath inquiry.

01:35:51.000 He needs to testify before Congress and we need to bring in... Jack Posobiec reported that some of the people involved are willing to testify against him.

01:35:57.000 So we'll see what happens.

01:35:58.000 Let's read some of these chats!

01:35:59.000 Smash that like button if you haven't already, and don't forget bonus segment at TimCast.com.

01:36:03.000 Matthew Hammond says, with the Borg turning against Nicki Minaj, do you think her worldview was shattered?

01:36:08.000 Will she join Kanye at his Sunday service singing gospel music?

01:36:12.000 Hope so.

01:36:12.000 I don't know about all that.

01:36:13.000 Wasn't Nicki one of those people on that bed with that award that everyone was complaining about?

01:36:17.000 Probably.

01:36:18.000 I don't remember.

01:36:18.000 Remember, like, that really gratuitous bed show?

01:36:21.000 Was she wearing gold?

01:36:23.000 And the women were, like, on the bed, booty dancing or whatever, and conservatives were like... Yeah, if she was in tight gold, I remember that. 1.00

01:36:27.000 Let's just say Nikki's not one for, you know, chastity. 1.00

01:36:31.000 Did she do that WAP song?

01:36:33.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:36:34.000 Was that her?

01:36:34.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:36.000 So when folks on the right are, like, cheering the fact that Millie has gone to the left and Minaj has gone to the right, I'm not exactly sure that that's the case.

01:36:46.000 That's a fair point.

01:36:47.000 Not exactly sure that's the case.

01:36:49.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

01:36:51.000 So many discussions.

01:36:52.000 Babyleg Bennett says Biden says Millie is a patriot. This begs the question who's more patriotic Millie or Benedict

01:36:58.000 Arnold?

01:36:58.000 All right, Stephen Frost says I just had to quit my job over vaccine mandates out of principle

01:37:07.000 My integrity is more important than them meeting a quota for me.

01:37:11.000 You know, we got to... I talk about chickens all the time.

01:37:14.000 Because we have eight babies now.

01:37:16.000 We had originally six chickens.

01:37:17.000 We adopted one chicken who was older than the others.

01:37:20.000 Now, they've had a bunch of babies, and we've got five, they're called Black Stars, and we've got three others that are just, you know, Rhode Island Red and an Easter Egger and Leghorn Rhode Island Red, because we only have one rooster.

01:37:33.000 And there's something real special about growing your own food, eating your own cherry tomatoes and peppers in the morning, and I tell you, people get addicted to easy city living.

01:37:42.000 You're sitting there in your apartment, you're hungry, you press a few buttons, boom, pizza shows up.

01:37:47.000 That's bad for us.

01:37:48.000 I think people would greatly benefit by rolling up their sleeves, going out.

01:37:52.000 Every morning I go out after my first segment I record, I go out and tend to the chickens.

01:37:56.000 Check their food, check their water, check the eggs.

01:37:59.000 Open up the free range thing so they can come out and party and do chicken stuff.

01:38:02.000 I water the plants.

01:38:03.000 Then I, you know, do a walk around the house, go back in and get back to work.

01:38:06.000 I've got this friend who does like zero waste sustainability, and I was thinking about flying her out here someday and doing that here.

01:38:13.000 Doing like a gray water system or something?

01:38:14.000 Yeah, big time.

01:38:16.000 Also, when you cook, I cooked, we did a show on the Cast Castle where I cooked a delicious stew, and the scraps I threw away.

01:38:22.000 I didn't even think about feeding them the chickens.

01:38:24.000 In the comments, people were like, you can feed the vegetable scraps to the chickens.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, just throw your food in there. 0.99

01:38:28.000 Gotta make sure that the specific vegetables are OK for the specific farm animals.

01:38:31.000 I watched Thomas Massey's little documentary about his homestead in Kentucky, and he said something that stood out to me.

01:38:37.000 He's like, between, we don't compost anything.

01:38:39.000 He's like, between the chickens and the dogs, they eat everything.

01:38:42.000 Yeah.

01:38:43.000 Or they'll eat the bugs that climb on it. 0.99

01:38:45.000 All right, let's see.

01:38:48.000 Tyler Toth with a throwback says, it's said that Knowles's collar is still half popped out to this day.

01:38:54.000 I believe it.

01:38:55.000 Last time Michael was here, one collar was sticking out of his sweater or whatever.

01:38:58.000 I can't believe I didn't notice.

01:38:59.000 I felt terrible. 0.98

01:39:00.000 He's an animal.

01:39:02.000 It is on the way.

01:39:02.000 Is it called The Joy of Cooking?

01:39:04.000 I think that's where we're going.

01:39:05.000 Yeah, I like it.

01:39:05.000 Ian Crosland, The Joy of Cooking.

01:39:06.000 Ian Crosland and friends.

01:39:07.000 some Bob Ross vibes and his love of cookies is nostalgic.

01:39:10.000 Love you, you pseudo hippie. 1.00

01:39:12.000 It is on the way.

01:39:14.000 Is it called the Joy of Cooking?

01:39:15.000 I think that's where we're going.

01:39:16.000 Yeah, I like it.

01:39:18.000 Ian Crosland, the Joy of Cooking.

01:39:19.000 The Joy of Cooking with Ian Crosland and friends.

01:39:20.000 Yeah, we'll have- Pseudo hippie?

01:39:21.000 We'll have guests.

01:39:22.000 What is that?

01:39:23.000 We'll have multiple hosts.

01:39:24.000 It'll be going to be a fantastic time.

01:39:26.000 Nutritionists.

01:39:27.000 Sharp knives and safe cutting.

01:39:30.000 I'm going to fix my technique.

01:39:31.000 Why aren't they giving you your full hippie do? 0.63

01:39:34.000 The big fro?

01:39:36.000 But why are you a pseudo-hippie?

01:39:38.000 I don't know.

01:39:39.000 I think because it's 2000, 2021.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, hippies are old. 0.99

01:39:42.000 Christopher Hunt says, is Young Money red-pilled?

01:39:44.000 Lil Wayne supported Trump.

01:39:45.000 Nicki says something sensible.

01:39:47.000 We just need Drake to talk about the border crisis.

01:39:49.000 Champagne.

01:39:50.000 Young Money, that's what I'm saying, man.

01:39:51.000 She's affiliated with some red-pilled guys, people that like Trump, people that are going to advocate for some issues that are going to rub the liberals the wrong way.

01:39:58.000 She's on the wrong team. 0.98

01:40:01.000 According to them.

01:40:02.000 Samantha Dragon says, Ian, need to look at the Uranium Short Squeeze.

01:40:07.000 It's happening now, brought on by a first of its kind.

01:40:10.000 Sprott Physical Holding.

01:40:12.000 Really interesting.

01:40:14.000 What was the last thing?

01:40:16.000 Sprott?

01:40:17.000 How do you spell that?

01:40:17.000 S-P-R-O-T-T.

01:40:18.000 Oh.

01:40:21.000 Eric Miller says, tomato is a fruit, but it doesn't belong in a fruit salad.

01:40:25.000 Vaccines are great, but not for everyone.

01:40:27.000 Imagine if Trump mandated HCQ.

01:40:30.000 Yeah, I think, uh, I think vaccines are for mostly everybody, you know, for the most part.

01:40:37.000 I think the real issue is regardless of my or anyone's opinion, go talk to somebody you know and trust and don't let people get in between.

01:40:44.000 And the problem I have with YouTube censorship is that the left is allowed to get in between people and their doctors, but the right isn't. 0.98

01:40:51.000 That's dumb. 0.99

01:40:52.000 Go find a good doctor. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Talk to him. 1.00

01:40:53.000 He'll tell you what's up.

01:40:54.000 Yep.

01:40:55.000 I'm getting text messages from people saying, it was a good run on Tim Cass Pro.

01:41:00.000 I thought you, I thought what you were saying was really powerful.

01:41:03.000 I enjoyed listening to it because a lot of people are going through what you're going through.

01:41:07.000 Yeah.

01:41:07.000 No, they're just joking because they don't understand that like when we fight and argue about stuff, it's because we're just, we're like, we're just, we're doing it.

01:41:14.000 Are they implying I'm going to throw you out or something?

01:41:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:16.000 That we're done.

01:41:17.000 I just gave you very expensive whiskey.

01:41:19.000 Cause we were arguing about something and it gets heated.

01:41:21.000 People are like, it was a good run on Tim Cass.

01:41:25.000 I'm blowing up.

01:41:25.000 I'll have it.

01:41:26.000 I'll have an even better whiskey for you next time.

01:41:28.000 Yeah, man.

01:41:29.000 I want to be here for Joy of Cooking, but you might want to look into trademarks on that.

01:41:34.000 Yeah, because we said it out loud.

01:41:36.000 I think it was the Julie Childs book.

01:41:37.000 Yeah, I think it's a famous phrase.

01:41:39.000 I'm not stuck on a name.

01:41:40.000 Yeah.

01:41:42.000 The good times of cooking.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, I like it.

01:41:45.000 All right.

01:41:47.000 Sad.

01:41:48.000 Sadowarrior says, Yeah, that's what I was saying.

01:41:50.000 I thought that Stanford thing was bunk.

01:41:51.000 There is an experiment recently and that experiment has been highly discredited.

01:41:54.000 The guards were coached to be cruel and some moments were acted rather than real.

01:42:01.000 Yeah, that's what I was saying.

01:42:02.000 I thought that Stanford thing was bunk.

01:42:03.000 Interesting.

01:42:04.000 It may be bunk, but you've seen it happen in people though.

01:42:07.000 Yeah.

01:42:08.000 Definitely.

01:42:09.000 You see people get drunk with power.

01:42:11.000 You see people, like, rule follow to tyranny.

01:42:14.000 Yep.

01:42:15.000 X says, Dude, quit ripping on Vaush.

01:42:17.000 I understand the contradiction with libertarian socialism, but he's a good guest.

01:42:21.000 Fascinating conversations.

01:42:22.000 Target him less, please.

01:42:23.000 No!

01:42:24.000 He's welcome to be a guest.

01:42:25.000 I'm grateful that he's come on the couple times he has.

01:42:29.000 I am not going to refrain from criticizing people because I'm worried about not having them as guests.

01:42:33.000 So, Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon.

01:42:36.000 I criticized them, you know, over the performing at vaccine-mandated venues.

01:42:42.000 And I really don't think Joe's gonna be like, I'll never have Tim Pool back.

01:42:46.000 I hate that guy!

01:42:47.000 Because I said, you know, like, I'm critical of this. 0.97

01:42:49.000 I'm pretty sure he's gonna be like, You know, whatever.

01:42:52.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 I've had actually some of my best interactions with people are after I criticized them heavily about something that they knew.

01:42:59.000 You know, that's the thing is that when when the thing we say about Tim Dillon, he knows what what you're saying has some validity.

01:43:06.000 It's not like you're totally missing the mark.

01:43:08.000 Honestly, Tim, at risk of not getting that good scotch in two weeks, I got to say that I think he had a valid point, which is I'm touring all over the place.

01:43:18.000 The people in this jurisdiction voted for the people that enacted the mandates and they support it.

01:43:24.000 If you don't want to go to that show, don't go to that show.

01:43:26.000 It's sort of a very libertarian approach in a sense.

01:43:29.000 It's like, I'm gonna do it.

01:43:30.000 You can take it or leave it.

01:43:31.000 I'll go over here too.

01:43:33.000 It's not like he's only- Don't pretend like you're against him.

01:43:35.000 Right.

01:43:36.000 But it's not like he's only exclusively going to places that are vaccinated.

01:43:40.000 Why didn't he go to Jersey City?

01:43:41.000 That's a good question.

01:43:42.000 Do they have a venue big enough for his giant head?

01:43:45.000 The point I made the other day is perhaps he's already entered into contracts and the mandates are out.

01:43:53.000 Well look, I had the opportunity to do an event in New York City and subject my people to the VAX mandates and I decided to do it in Jersey City.

01:44:00.000 Jackedbrunch.com.

01:44:01.000 92621.

01:44:01.000 Come on down.

01:44:02.000 It's going to be a great show.

01:44:05.000 Simple.

01:44:06.000 That was my decision.

01:44:07.000 That was my choice.

01:44:08.000 And you know, I just didn't want to deal with it.

01:44:10.000 And I didn't want to give the tax money to New York City.

01:44:13.000 I don't need to have a venue with a thousand people in it.

01:44:16.000 I don't need to perform in front of a large group of people.

01:44:20.000 And I would be willing to sacrifice my comfort for my principles.

01:44:25.000 But what if there was a thousand vaccinated people that wanted to see you and they would all be willing to pay for you to come to this place where they required vaccines?

01:44:32.000 Nope.

01:44:33.000 You wouldn't do it even though they all wanted it and they were willing to pay?

01:44:35.000 Would not.

01:44:36.000 No one was coerced?

01:44:36.000 Wouldn't do it.

01:44:37.000 Interesting.

01:44:38.000 Yep.

01:44:38.000 Wouldn't do it.

01:44:39.000 Nope.

01:44:40.000 Ain't gonna happen.

01:44:41.000 You know, Tim, you're awfully principled.

01:44:43.000 I enjoy that about you.

01:44:44.000 Yeah.

01:44:44.000 It makes for good arguing.

01:44:46.000 To an extent.

01:44:47.000 I think the important thing to point out is like a really good argument was talking about like VAX mandates, like gender based discrimination versus race discrimination and how we tolerate one but don't tolerate the other, even though the arguments presented in law are the same.

01:45:01.000 Yes.

01:45:02.000 It's not so much about principles for the most part.

01:45:03.000 It's about like moral frameworks.

01:45:06.000 So you can look at a structure and be like, I think segregation is wrong, and then they say the 1964 Civil Rights Act says you can't discriminate on the basis of race or gender, and thus you can't have racial segregation, but we can have gender segregation? 0.61

01:45:22.000 So there's an interesting question there, and then people say, well, there's a biological difference between men and women, and then race realists say, oh, but there's a biological difference between different races, and then you get into the scientific argument where people say, oh, races are a social construct, and then all of a sudden you're all over the place.

01:45:38.000 And so that's why I'm kind of like, is it really principles or is it, you know, being obstinate?

01:45:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:44.000 There are some things I won't do.

01:45:46.000 I think some things are right or some things are wrong. 0.98

01:45:48.000 So we can add to dumb and diabolical. 0.93

01:45:50.000 We can add to principled or obstinate. 0.98

01:45:52.000 Yeah.

01:45:53.000 Great game.

01:45:53.000 It's tough, isn't it?

01:45:56.000 Uh, yeah.

01:45:57.000 Yeah, a little bit.

01:45:58.000 A little bit challenging, yeah.

01:46:00.000 All right.

01:46:01.000 Case closed.

01:46:02.000 93 says, I'm an IRS officer who watches your show and you need to understand unpaid taxes are a civil violation, not a criminal one.

01:46:08.000 Also, since we can't lien levy unpaid Obamacare, I doubt we could do it for the vaccines.

01:46:14.000 Good point.

01:46:15.000 I suppose I'll tone that one down a bit and say they may come out and be like, you're trying to obfuscate.

01:46:22.000 The point I'm making is if they really want to enforce them against you, they will find a means through the law to do it.

01:46:28.000 Unpaid taxes or avoiding taxes when you try to obfuscate the stuff is where you get into the criminal territory and they could argue Oh, you're trying to hide the fact that you're doing X Y or Z But um more importantly the enforcement doesn't need to come from the IRS in terms of them showing up and arresting you Shutting down your business and seizing your your your your your funds is one way they could do it But you know, maybe maybe not Unvaccinated soldier says serious question.

01:46:54.000 Jack, how do you wear a mask with that epic beard?

01:46:57.000 You know, it's very interesting.

01:46:58.000 You should say that.

01:46:59.000 Uh, they make me wear one.

01:47:01.000 It goes like this and then it comes up over my chin and it gives me beard mask, mask, beard, mask, beard, like a beard.

01:47:08.000 Do you have a picture of the mass beard?

01:47:10.000 No.

01:47:11.000 Cause it's horrible.

01:47:12.000 Um, and so I only wear a mask and where I'm essentially required to do it where I can't get on the plane otherwise.

01:47:19.000 Uh, and I got a beard mask.

01:47:21.000 It just, it hangs down flat.

01:47:23.000 Oh, that is awesome.

01:47:24.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 I got to get a photo of that.

01:47:26.000 Yeah.

01:47:27.000 I got it in my pocket.

01:47:28.000 All right.

01:47:28.000 Just pull it out.

01:47:29.000 Show us.

01:47:31.000 You have the mask?

01:47:31.000 Yeah.

01:47:33.000 Give us a glimpse.

01:47:33.000 It was in my, it was in my car and I just happened to grab it.

01:47:36.000 I literally don't wear it anywhere, but I, oh, you know what?

01:47:39.000 I did wear it today.

01:47:41.000 I take that back.

01:47:42.000 I had a doctor's appointment.

01:47:44.000 I had to go to the doctor.

01:47:45.000 In a doctor's office in Maryland, you're required to wear a mask.

01:47:48.000 They gave me the choice between health care and wearing a mask.

01:47:52.000 Yep.

01:47:52.000 And I picked a mask.

01:47:53.000 Every time. 0.99

01:47:54.000 It sucked. 0.97

01:47:55.000 But here we go. 0.99

01:47:55.000 There it is. 0.99

01:47:56.000 It's like a pair of pants.

01:47:58.000 It's a big diaper. 1.00

01:47:59.000 It sucks. 0.99

01:48:02.000 That's cool looking. 1.00

01:48:03.000 No, it's awful.

01:48:04.000 Noel P. Bone says, I get the argument Tim's making though.

01:48:07.000 20 years from now, if we live in a real dictatorship, you can look back and say,

01:48:11.000 at least my kids got to play sports.

01:48:13.000 Yeah.

01:48:17.000 I'm thinking of it from their perspective.

01:48:20.000 I know we probably already went over this, but I feel like 16, 14, you're an adult.

01:48:24.000 I know legally you're not, but psychologically, I knew what I wanted when I was 14.

01:48:28.000 If my dad took away my opportunity to become an actor because of his politics, I would have hated him, never forgave him, and probably become a raging alcoholic and killed myself or something.

01:48:38.000 Joe Spinella says, Tim, say no to YouTube and their censorship by ending your show on their platform.

01:48:44.000 Guess what?

01:48:44.000 You won't.

01:48:45.000 You support their system by cooperating in it.

01:48:47.000 Well, there's a big difference between the government mandating something by decree in violation of our laws and our courts and our branches of government and a large multinational unaccountable corporation Shutting people down and violating fundamental rights.

01:49:05.000 The difference is, there is an argument to be made about what we have a right to do.

01:49:09.000 I don't think YouTube should be censoring anybody.

01:49:11.000 But YouTube also provides free services to people, so there's an argument between what YouTube should be allowed to do and what they shouldn't be allowed to do.

01:49:18.000 In this instance, I think it's a call for regulation.

01:49:21.000 Our politicians should come in and intervene to stop YouTube from doing these things, and we need legislative action to prevent this.

01:49:27.000 No one has come to me by executive decree mandating, like, I violate my bodily autonomy in this regard.

01:49:34.000 More importantly, though, you're wrong.

01:49:35.000 We're actively building TimCast.com and slowly removing our reliance on the platform.

01:49:40.000 You may have noticed at the beginning of the year, I cut the amount of content I produce in half.

01:49:44.000 On YouTube.

01:49:45.000 And we started producing more content on TimCast.com.

01:49:48.000 So yes, the ultimate goal is I will get off of YouTube as they escalate their unconscionable behavior.

01:49:56.000 That being said, wearing a mask.

01:49:59.000 I don't think wearing masks is that big of a deal when a private business says it.

01:50:02.000 I don't like government mandates, but if I go to a local store and I have to go there and the private business owner is like, no shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service, I put a mask on.

01:50:10.000 About the doctor.

01:50:11.000 The doctor, uh, same thing.

01:50:13.000 Like, those are private practices.

01:50:15.000 A doctor is a private practice.

01:50:19.000 It is, technically.

01:50:20.000 To varying degrees, there are differences.

01:50:22.000 A mask is something you put on your face and, look, I don't like the mask mandates when people have to work for eight hours.

01:50:28.000 You know, that's brutal.

01:50:29.000 When it's like, I'm going into a building for 15 or 20 minutes, and the person who works there is wanting me to do it?

01:50:35.000 Whatever.

01:50:35.000 And if I have a choice to go somewhere else, I'll walk next door and go somewhere else.

01:50:38.000 If I have a choice between going Maryland, Virginia, or West Virginia, because I do, I go to West Virginia, where you can do whatever you want, there's no mandates.

01:50:44.000 Go play pool, don't need a mask, don't need to get vaccinated, you can do whatever you want.

01:50:47.000 We went to Virginia, and a lot of places mandate masks, and some places strongly recommend them.

01:50:55.000 And so I'm just kind of like, it's a minor inconvenience.

01:50:58.000 It's a bad move in a bad direction.

01:51:00.000 I will actively do my best to speak out against them and seek out businesses that are more upholding of freedoms.

01:51:07.000 But there's a big difference between a private establishment and a government mandate.

01:51:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:11.000 So if Google and all these companies are mandating vaccines, I think it's a bad thing we should speak out against.

01:51:16.000 It's not the same as Joe Biden violating the branches of government and, you know, how our country functions.

01:51:22.000 Except for the fact that the federal government has an office in the White House where they coerce the social media companies into censoring content that they find objectionable.

01:51:30.000 That's correct.

01:51:30.000 So the corporations are doing the bidding of the government.

01:51:33.000 Therefore, when you adhere to the corporation's, you know, mandates, you're actually adhering to the government mandates and you're subjecting yourself to fascism.

01:51:41.000 So in our instance, we have created TimCast.com and the members only segments as sort of our speakeasy so that we can stand in this place and be like, Hey, everybody, if you want to hear the things YouTube would ban us for, we've set them up in a place where we're moving our business.

01:51:56.000 TimCast.com is a bigger portion of the business now than YouTube ever was.

01:52:00.000 And I cut my content down by half.

01:52:02.000 So I'll be, you know, trying to be reasonable.

01:52:04.000 There are some things that become hard lines, like inject yourself with this.

01:52:08.000 Yeah.

01:52:09.000 And I don't necessarily mean the vaccines.

01:52:10.000 I mean, when someone comes to you and says, violate your bodily autonomy.

01:52:13.000 Okay, well, hold on there a minute, sir.

01:52:15.000 Like, let's have, I don't know if I'm, you can't go backwards from that.

01:52:20.000 YouTube censoring people is something I've long pushed back against, and then ultimately decided, let's start getting away from YouTube.

01:52:26.000 Which is why we use Rumble.

01:52:28.000 All of our content is up on Rumble, all of it.

01:52:30.000 And BitChute, and Mines. 1.00

01:52:32.000 And it's also why I stopped producing half the content I did.

01:52:36.000 Because I don't want to ban this platform.

01:52:38.000 So it's not, Not an overnight shutdown, but our intent absolutely is to move to TimCast.com.

01:52:43.000 And the Fediverse.

01:52:44.000 You're always going to have centralized services that censor.

01:52:47.000 That is the nature of humanity and that is necessary for us to survive, is to have local private places and things where you can dictate the rules of what can and can't happen.

01:52:56.000 So we're building the Fediverse out so that we have a decentralized system that can function alongside all these centralized systems.

01:53:03.000 Indeed.

01:53:04.000 JP McGlone says Tim is right.

01:53:06.000 The pilot wanted to enforce the policy more than he wanted to lose his job.

01:53:11.000 Why is that hard for others to acknowledge as fact?

01:53:14.000 And that's, that's my point.

01:53:17.000 Rosie Riveter says Tim can't ask Jack to pull his kids from baseball until he's willing to violate YouTube's censorship policies to take a principal stand against tyranny.

01:53:25.000 I'm not entirely sure what Opinion I'm not allowed to have on YouTube that I'm being

01:53:32.000 censored of like there are certain words We can't say that are slurs that we don't even swear on

01:53:37.000 this show anyway, although we did swear this time But we like hey guys don't swear we try to we try to keep

01:53:40.000 things Lit whatever happened tonight was awesome. I was so fun to

01:53:45.000 be here. So there's like The one issue though is I want to have a conversation with

01:53:50.000 Steve Bannon about his opinions on the election You can't do that on YouTube.

01:53:55.000 So what do we do?

01:53:56.000 Leverage YouTube to create a space where we can have those conversations.

01:54:00.000 Not a perfect solution, but as I already stated, I want to make sure I'm reading the arguments.

01:54:04.000 I'm leveraging baseball into turning my son into, you know, a virtuous man.

01:54:10.000 Do you have options?

01:54:12.000 There are some, but for him, this seems to be the best option.

01:54:16.000 The issue is, as much as we are trying to get ourselves off of YouTube, and we have slowly been doing so, the issue is YouTube has used their monopolistic power to dominate the space, and there is no other option.

01:54:29.000 We do use Rumble, Minds, BitChute, and put our content up on there, and it's not as effective as driving people to TimCast.com.

01:54:37.000 But, ultimately, we're producing more and more content for TimCast.com with the ultimate goal of creating a website that doesn't need to be on YouTube, because screw the censorship.

01:54:45.000 Screw the censorship.

01:54:46.000 So, uh, I think, I'll put it this way.

01:54:49.000 It would be unreasonable to end this overnight when I'm not... when I'm still on the battlefield.

01:54:57.000 There's a big difference between it coming to a point where there's gonna be a hard stop where they look at your kid and say, take the shot, or you're out.

01:55:04.000 That's literally staying at the edge of the cliff making a decision.

01:55:07.000 For this, it's kind of like, hey, this is a big problem we're facing.

01:55:10.000 Let's do our best to move away from this as fast as we can.

01:55:13.000 So they're not one for one.

01:55:15.000 I respect the argument, however, and yes, let me assure you, we are actively trying to get off YouTube, and we have been doing so.

01:55:22.000 And I'll say it one more time, TimCast.com is a bigger portion of our business

01:55:27.000 than YouTube ever was.

01:55:29.000 And by cutting down the content I produced in half, I lost a ton of money.

01:55:34.000 And I didn't need to do that.

01:55:35.000 But I did.

01:55:36.000 Because I didn't want to, because I'm like, you know, we're gonna start,

01:55:40.000 I'm gonna stop producing this stuff for YouTube.

01:55:42.000 We're going to start focusing on building a different business to make something better.

01:55:47.000 So we've got members only content coming up for the cast castle vlog members only content coming up called the green room.

01:55:52.000 We've got a new show that is going to be on, you know, podcast platforms, and we're putting all of the core stuff.

01:55:58.000 We're trying to make our own version of like Netflix.

01:56:01.000 That's the end result.

01:56:03.000 We'll leverage those systems to the best of our ability in the meantime, but we're actively trying to get on.

01:56:06.000 Were you in the green room tonight?

01:56:08.000 That's why I chuckled when he said we're doing the green room.

01:56:11.000 I was like, yep, I remember.

01:56:12.000 Yeah.

01:56:13.000 I walk in the door.

01:56:14.000 They hand me a bottle of scotch and a camera gets put in my face.

01:56:17.000 Yep.

01:56:18.000 Get ready for it.

01:56:19.000 Next time I'm going to have to come in like prepared for that.

01:56:22.000 Usually I'm not.

01:56:22.000 I would come in.

01:56:23.000 I'm like, let me get warmed up, et cetera, et cetera.

01:56:25.000 I was all I was on immediately.

01:56:27.000 I was on immediately.

01:56:29.000 So there's a lot of comments from people saying, I'll read one more because I don't want to read the same things over and over again.

01:56:34.000 James Nelson says, I have five kids.

01:56:36.000 Tim is right.

01:56:37.000 This is a chance to teach your kids principles of freedom are more important than one season of baseball.

01:56:42.000 To be fair, I don't think you're talking, I think you're talking about a career.

01:56:44.000 It's a whole entire career.

01:56:45.000 It's the entire varsity sports and national collegiate athletic association, which is the gateway into a million different things.

01:56:51.000 It's not one season, bruh.

01:56:54.000 Emily Mower says, if everyone pulled their kids out of sports, then things would change.

01:56:58.000 Now again, I'm just reading some of these because there's a lot that go back and forth.

01:57:01.000 The next one says, Tim, you would lose your livelihood and not be able to feed your kids on principle, but you will willingly censor yourself on YouTube.

01:57:08.000 Frustration is understandable.

01:57:10.000 I appreciate what you do, but you bend like everyone else. 0.98

01:57:13.000 So, I want to make sure I'll read those criticisms as much as, you know, the people who agree with me, the people who disagree with me.

01:57:19.000 I do think they're different in the sense that if you get off YouTube right now, if every single person, Crowder and me, SticksXNamr, said, okay, we're done, we're off YouTube, then the entire battlefield is just ceded to the left, because this is where the ideological conflict is happening.

01:57:36.000 If someone came to me and said, if Google emailed me and said, send in proof of vaccination or you're banned from YouTube, I would be banned from YouTube.

01:57:44.000 And I would get in my van and go down by the river.

01:57:47.000 Or I would just start producing all of my content on TimCast.com and then take a more traditional route.

01:57:52.000 But let me put it very, very simply.

01:57:55.000 If I was forced to have a vaccine mandate or shut my company down, I would shut my company down.

01:58:02.000 If I was forced to do testing, I would shut my company down.

01:58:06.000 I would resign and quit in whatever capacity.

01:58:09.000 I am beholden to nobody else.

01:58:10.000 Nobody, no secret billionaire has given me anything.

01:58:12.000 I can shut it all down whenever I want.

01:58:14.000 And if Google emails me right now and says, provide proof of vaccination for you and your staff or you are banned, I would say, ban me.

01:58:23.000 Two seconds.

01:58:24.000 And I gotta tell you, part of it would be a great relief.

01:58:27.000 People don't seem to understand this, you know.

01:58:29.000 I wanna make sure people understand something.

01:58:32.000 Because I'm not saying this to brag.

01:58:34.000 And a lot of people may take it that way.

01:58:36.000 I am by no means poor, and I don't need to work.

01:58:40.000 I do this because I want to, because I believe in it, because it needs to be done, and we need to build Timcast.com.

01:58:48.000 We have two non-profits.

01:58:50.000 We have the Fediverse non-profit to create unbannable, open-source networking technologies.

01:58:56.000 When you become a member at Timcast, what do we have?

01:58:58.000 We have Ian and crew on calls every single day working to build out this non-profit, not for money.

01:59:05.000 We've also already filed the paperwork for a fact-checking non-profit not to make money because these things need to happen.

01:59:13.000 In the event that I actually got banned, I wouldn't just take a van down by the river.

01:59:18.000 I'd put my feet up in a hammock, sip some piña coladas, and just go to Maxworth's.

01:59:21.000 Well, you would triple down on Timcast.

01:59:23.000 I mean, that's just you.

01:59:24.000 That's my take of you and your personality.

01:59:26.000 But if the domain hosts, if the providers, if all of our, you know, Data centers and they all said show us proof or you're out.

01:59:35.000 I'd be out Yeah, and I'd be like, I'm gonna plant some vegetables and you know eat eggs I'll be like it's not happening and you know, there's the big challenge, right?

01:59:44.000 That's an effective way to excise people from the ideological conflict But ten years ago Tim would have a totally different perspective.

01:59:52.000 I would have yeah.

01:59:53.000 No, I wouldn't have what do you mean?

01:59:54.000 10 years ago, you wouldn't have the same perspective of ban me off of all the stuff.

01:59:58.000 I'll just put my feet up and count my money.

02:00:00.000 No, you would have been put my feet up and be hungry.

02:00:04.000 Right?

02:00:05.000 10 years ago, you weren't rich, dude.

02:00:07.000 10 years ago, I suppose the issue here isn't about having money.

02:00:14.000 Like when I was homeless at 18, I never cried about it.

02:00:19.000 There was not one day where I was like, this is the worst life imaginable.

02:00:22.000 I was like, I'm gonna sleep on this bench.

02:00:23.000 Well, you knew it was temporary.

02:00:24.000 No, I didn't.

02:00:25.000 Yeah, you did.

02:00:26.000 No, I didn't.

02:00:27.000 You're a capable, competent person.

02:00:28.000 You knew that you were on your way somewhere else and that was a passing moment.

02:00:33.000 That's never been my frame of mind.

02:00:35.000 My frame of mind has always been... Really, at that time, on the bench, you thought you were a homeless loser destined to be living in the streets the rest of your life? 0.70

02:00:41.000 I never said to myself, I'm a homeless loser destined to live on the streets. 0.92

02:00:45.000 Of course not.

02:00:45.000 I said, I wonder where I'll sleep tomorrow.

02:00:47.000 Right, so... I didn't say, at one point, I'll find myself an invention.

02:00:49.000 My good friend, Ed Lattimore, made this point very clearly.

02:00:53.000 There's a distinction between being broke and being poor.

02:00:58.000 There's a poor state of mind.

02:01:00.000 There's a broke is a passing moment.

02:01:02.000 That was a passing moment for you.

02:01:04.000 Well, I have a friend from, from Mexico and he said broken. 1.00

02:01:07.000 That was his word for broke.

02:01:09.000 I'm broken right now.

02:01:10.000 I can't, I'm broken.

02:01:11.000 And it was very painful to hear that because it felt like emotionally he was.

02:01:14.000 You can be broken.

02:01:16.000 It's different than being poor.

02:01:17.000 Justin Green says Thomas Paine had no surviving children.

02:01:21.000 So there's a good point we made.

02:01:23.000 And that's another point, too.

02:01:24.000 If your kids don't make it, then you've lost already.

02:01:27.000 Your kids are the future.

02:01:28.000 So if you can't... If you don't have good kids to survive, then... Yeah, but just on that point, every step of my life, I was always just like, gotta do what I gotta do.

02:01:40.000 Yeah.

02:01:41.000 I was never like, one day, looking up at the stars, like, I will have it all.

02:01:45.000 Never.

02:01:47.000 No dreams?

02:01:48.000 It wasn't about dreams.

02:01:49.000 It was about like, I'm going to do stuff.

02:01:51.000 And so every day I wake up and I'm thinking about what am I going to do today?

02:01:57.000 So the story I tell about the journalists not wanting to give up their apartment, when I worked for Vice and I was doing these big documentaries, we did the Kim.com one, got like 5 million views overnight.

02:02:07.000 And people were like, oh man, he's so lucky.

02:02:09.000 It's like, I was sleeping on my friend's couch.

02:02:11.000 I was sleeping on a couch in Williamsburg for 300 bucks a night.

02:02:13.000 I didn't have a room.

02:02:14.000 It was difficult.

02:02:15.000 I hope it wasn't a night, bro.

02:02:17.000 Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

02:02:20.000 I would wake up, my homie would be smoking weed and he'd be like sitting in his living room.

02:02:25.000 And so he'd be like, he'd be chilling and I'd just be like groggy and like totally whacked out like, this is so difficult.

02:02:32.000 But you got to do what you got to do.

02:02:35.000 And that's an excellent cost-benefit analysis and investment in yourself and these choices that we make when we're young when you've got nothing to lose and that's the time to take risks, time to double down, time to be poor or passing broke moment without a poor mindset because you know there's something bigger coming.

02:02:54.000 Something bigger coming.

02:02:55.000 You know, just earlier when we were talking before the show, not to call you out, dude, but you did say 10 years ago, you're like, I knew all this was coming.

02:03:02.000 I had dreams.

02:03:03.000 So let me, yeah, so I'll explain that.

02:03:05.000 When I was 16, I went to some hippie commune where they had a big 1600 square foot, like 20 foot ceilings.

02:03:13.000 So it was like this one room and they were like, everybody pitches in a hundred bucks a month and we have this big space with a mini ramp in it.

02:03:21.000 That's what I knew was coming.

02:03:22.000 That's what I knew I was going to do.

02:03:23.000 I was going to get the space.

02:03:25.000 And it's another story I told where I went to a bunch of my friends like, hey, let's get this space and let's build a mini ramp.

02:03:29.000 If everyone pitches in a hundred bucks and they were like, build it and then we'll see what we do.

02:03:33.000 So it wasn't that I expected to be wealthy.

02:03:36.000 I expected to be free.

02:03:37.000 I always knew that no matter what happened, I'd be sitting there being like, life's fun.

02:03:42.000 Yeah.

02:03:43.000 You know, there was a period where when I was in my early 20s, I went to Seattle, I went to Denver, I eventually went to Los Angeles, and I just did whatever, you know?

02:03:57.000 It's crazy to me.

02:03:58.000 Life is fun.

02:03:59.000 I never understood, you know, people who, uh, become so depressed and hate their lives.

02:04:04.000 They would end it.

02:04:05.000 Cause I'm like, man, you just giving yourself carte blanche.

02:04:08.000 You've got no worries.

02:04:09.000 Like you think it's worthless and it's over.

02:04:10.000 You can't do it.

02:04:11.000 Like now you can do anything because nothing matters.

02:04:13.000 If you've got nothing, nothing left to lose, that's actually a very freeing moment.

02:04:18.000 Yeah.

02:04:18.000 So I remember one day I had an apartment.

02:04:19.000 I just like got up and left.

02:04:20.000 I had an apartment in Chicago and I went to my roommates and I was just like, uh, I'm going to take a car ride to California.

02:04:27.000 Then what?

02:04:27.000 I don't know.

02:04:28.000 I got 200 bucks.

02:04:29.000 Sounds like fun.

02:04:31.000 And then I went to California and I, you know, got lucky.

02:04:35.000 Planned to sleep on the beach, but didn't.

02:04:38.000 Until you have kids, everything you're doing is that $200 ride to California, my friend.

02:04:42.000 Just FYI.

02:04:45.000 All right, Austin Aries says, maybe it's time to return to monkey.

02:04:49.000 Exiting society and being self-sufficient seems to be a little extreme, but seems options are becoming limited.

02:04:54.000 Homesteading.

02:04:55.000 Find yourself some, you know what's crazy?

02:04:57.000 You know, we were just looking at 500, was it 500, 600 acres of land.

02:05:04.000 600 for half a mil.

02:05:05.000 Oh yeah.

02:05:06.000 That's a very good price.

02:05:07.000 600 acres in West Virginia.

02:05:09.000 I'm telling you, dude, West Virginia is the, is, is, is, is.

02:05:13.000 Uh oh.

02:05:15.000 We were both like, he's gonna open the chest and show him where it is.

02:05:18.000 Don't say it.

02:05:19.000 West Virginia is the place to go.

02:05:20.000 Everyone should move there.

02:05:21.000 Do it now.

02:05:21.000 Well, what we're saying is if you say it out loud, everyone's gonna move there and change it.

02:05:27.000 West Virginia is like, it's like, it's this valley, you know, you make it through the ancient tomb into this lost valley and there's like pterodactyls.

02:05:39.000 And you're like, where am I?

02:05:40.000 And there's these massive avocados you pick.

02:05:42.000 You're like, it's so big!

02:05:43.000 We got pawpaw everywhere.

02:05:45.000 But you're saying West Virginia is like legit and amazing, kind of untapped state.

02:05:51.000 West Virginia is the place where you can buy a decent parcel of land in the middle of nowhere, with no access to utilities, where you'll never talk to your friends again, and you can have chickens, goats, and grow vegetables, and work hard every day, and fight off bears.

02:06:03.000 And Starlink.

02:06:04.000 Hey man, Galt's Gulch IRL.

02:06:08.000 That whole thing you just described, plus Starlink, is my heaven on earth.

02:06:14.000 I think people should do that.

02:06:17.000 I'm doing it.

02:06:18.000 And you can do it in whatever state for the most part.

02:06:20.000 I like West Virginia because land is cheap and you can go into central West Virginia and find a couple acres for like a hundred, with a house on it for a hundred grand.

02:06:31.000 And then you've got your chickens, you got your goats.

02:06:33.000 I hear Wyoming also is pretty amazing right now, especially for crypto law.

02:06:39.000 Mountainous, but good.

02:06:40.000 Well, West Virginia, it is literally called the mountain state.

02:06:44.000 But the mountains in Wyoming are very different from the mountains in West Virginia.

02:06:48.000 People come out here and they're like, the Blue Ridge Mountains?

02:06:49.000 Are those even mountains?

02:06:50.000 And I'm like, they're mountains, but they're covered in trees!

02:06:53.000 Their mountains.

02:06:54.000 I was just in Western North Carolina.

02:06:57.000 It's beautiful.

02:06:57.000 Those are beautiful.

02:06:58.000 The Blue Ridge is beautiful.

02:07:00.000 Absolutely stunning.

02:07:00.000 Robert Pointer says, Jack, totally with you.

02:07:03.000 Point a gun at me and I can say screw you. 1.00

02:07:05.000 Pointed at my kid and it's completely different. 1.00

02:07:07.000 Totes.

02:07:07.000 Kids is a giant paradigm shift I didn't get until I became a father.

02:07:11.000 You're making me not want to have kids.

02:07:13.000 My God.

02:07:13.000 No, that's a testament to how important and valuable and worthwhile they are.

02:07:16.000 I got too much to throw away, man.

02:07:18.000 I can't risk them for this.

02:07:21.000 Waffle Sensei says Luke has been winning all the arguments in the chat tonight.

02:07:26.000 Wait, Luke was supposed to be here a long time ago.

02:07:29.000 Wait he's coming back to the studio?

02:07:31.000 Supposed to be.

02:07:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:33.000 Luke!

02:07:33.000 Does that mean I'm gonna have to sit over there now?

02:07:35.000 No, no.

02:07:35.000 New studio.

02:07:36.000 New studio, bro.

02:07:37.000 New studio.

02:07:38.000 The new table.

02:07:38.000 Plenty of space.

02:07:39.000 That's a hell of a table.

02:07:40.000 I saw the table and I was like, ETA. 0.99

02:07:42.000 Damn. 0.99

02:07:43.000 One week. 1.00

02:07:44.000 For Luke?

02:07:44.000 Luke!

02:07:45.000 No, for the table.

02:07:46.000 No, for the table.

02:07:46.000 For the studio.

02:07:47.000 Yeah, yeah, so the construction crew has already started on Chicken City.

02:07:52.000 And that means they're pulling guys off of studio construction because now it's down to like getting the

02:07:57.000 table done.

02:07:58.000 Yeah. The table is impressive.

02:08:00.000 So beautiful. And so they said probably about one week.

02:08:03.000 And that means after that week we have to do camera mounting. No lighting required.

02:08:08.000 Why?

02:08:09.000 The whole ceiling is lined with LED bars.

02:08:11.000 It's incredible.

02:08:12.000 It's so balanced.

02:08:14.000 I'll take these.

02:08:14.000 I need a couple more.

02:08:15.000 And we can still dim them on both sides and change it.

02:08:18.000 And we're going to do a strip in the middle for lighting faces.

02:08:22.000 So we might wall mount the cameras.

02:08:25.000 But once the table's done, it is basically good to go.

02:08:28.000 We need art.

02:08:30.000 That's going to be an issue.

02:08:31.000 We'll hang some stuff up.

02:08:32.000 But I think new studio will be ready to go very soon.

02:08:35.000 Sick.

02:08:35.000 Can't wait.

02:08:35.000 Luke.

02:08:37.000 So I go downstairs and we have a receptionist.

02:08:39.000 We have a mail room and there are boxes that are very heavy and therefore Luke Rudd and they're bullets.

02:08:46.000 Oh, and he sent them here to my house.

02:08:50.000 You know what it was?

02:08:50.000 It was Biden banned Russian imports of ammo.

02:08:52.000 So Luke was like, and then like we got six tons in the driveway right now.

02:08:59.000 Luke's probably mad that I just said that.

02:09:01.000 Uh, there's some other stuff.

02:09:02.000 I don't know.

02:09:03.000 All right.

02:09:03.000 Let's see.

02:09:04.000 We'll, we'll, uh, we'll, we'll do a shout out for rumble because, um, yeah, man, I'm on rumble.

02:09:08.000 I can certainly respect the criticisms over being on a platform that censors people and me not just shutting the show down, but, uh, I have cut half of my show down and we are moving as much as we can to Timcast.com as quickly as we can.

02:09:21.000 Uh, like I said, Timcast.com, you know, one of the stupidest things I did was try and turn YouTube into a business.

02:09:28.000 Hmm.

02:09:30.000 From the beginning, I should have started TimCast.com with member content and articles, and I could've, and I just did not know.

02:09:37.000 Well, no, I think maybe the upside is YouTube is free marketing.

02:09:40.000 Like, they push your stuff, and they push you hard.

02:09:44.000 Well, no, they didn't, they... No, we're in a bubble, bro.

02:09:46.000 The algorithms... We're isolated.

02:09:47.000 But they lifted you out of it.

02:09:50.000 You know, your stuff, the algorithms picked you up and pushed you to a huge market, so that helped in the early days.

02:09:56.000 I would say yes, definitely.

02:09:59.000 Not as much as you might think, not enough to make it worth it.

02:10:02.000 So, I greatly regret that we didn't launch a rudimentary TimCast.com two years ago.

02:10:08.000 I had my website with some stuff auto-popping up on it, and I never created the premium member stuff that I should've.

02:10:16.000 And it took us a week from launching TimCast.com to have it be the dominant portion of the business.

02:10:24.000 And I'm like, wow.

02:10:26.000 I remember that.

02:10:27.000 I remember we were like, we're launching this.

02:10:29.000 And I come back two weeks later and like, this is what happened.

02:10:31.000 I'm like.

02:10:32.000 Should have done it a long time ago.

02:10:34.000 But you know what?

02:10:35.000 Like, like YouTube is the equivalent of a blog.

02:10:39.000 That's just content marketing that you use to just sort of create a secondary thing.

02:10:44.000 And I think it's hard in retrospect to look back and be like, I should have done this, should have done that when, you know, it's all worked out pretty well.

02:10:50.000 It is, but in terms of principle, I could have made a faster move to get away from YouTube.

02:10:55.000 And for advice for anyone starting out now or working now, start your own thing and start taking direct from the user to you subscriptions.

02:11:02.000 So you cut out the middleman and the Fediverse is coming to help you do that.

02:11:05.000 This is why another nonprofit that we're setting up is going to create free and open source networking, subscription, website software, so you don't have to be beholden to anybody and no one can ban you.

02:11:15.000 Okay, look, this is very valuable information.

02:11:17.000 But like, guys, if you're out there actually starting to try to create, if you have no one listening to you, you're not gonna have anybody to sign up to your premium stuff.

02:11:25.000 Yeah, you got to do it all together.

02:11:26.000 You've got to use YouTube, you've got to use all these markets, all of them, Facebook ads, if you got to do that, Twitter, start your Minds account, get your rumble going and start your own website where you take subscriptions.

02:11:36.000 I do think it's fair to leverage the platforms of your political rivals to gain access.

02:11:43.000 Brilliant.

02:11:44.000 So anyway, we've gone a little long.

02:11:45.000 We've got to do the member segment.

02:11:46.000 I'll just do one more shoutout.

02:11:49.000 Janet Partridge says, Rumble now has super chat with their livestream.

02:11:52.000 Would you consider livestreaming on Rumble?

02:11:53.000 We are.

02:11:55.000 Planning!

02:11:56.000 It comes down to the development side on our website, because again, we want to do that.

02:12:02.000 We don't want to sacrifice the battlefield that is YouTube and the culture war, because it is the biggest platform, and that would be foolish, but we also don't want to be providing resources to YouTube.

02:12:14.000 Disproportionately benefiting them while they're actively participating in the culture war so that being said go to Tim cast calm be a member Because not only are you supporting the journalists?

02:12:23.000 We're hiring and I think we're up to like seven or eight now But you're also supporting the nonprofit work that we're starting to we're gonna be launching and then once the nonprofits launch formally because I've just basically been paying for it out of my personal pocket and Once they launch, then we can contribute.

02:12:37.000 Our company will put money in there.

02:12:39.000 And then people can start doing more and more work.

02:12:41.000 But the work is being done because people are doing it for passion.

02:12:44.000 You can follow me at Timcast.

02:12:46.000 You can follow the show at Timcast IRL.

02:12:47.000 Jack, you got some stuff to shout out?

02:12:49.000 I do.

02:12:49.000 We are doing a Jack Brunch Tour.

02:12:51.000 You know why?

02:12:51.000 Because we all need food, folks, and fun.

02:12:54.000 We're doing a Sunday Social for those of us on the right side of things.

02:12:58.000 Whichever way you want to interpret that word right.

02:13:00.000 Those of us on the right side of things, come out, break bread with us, drink some wine with us.

02:13:04.000 New York, we're going to Jersey City because screw those vaccine mandates in New York City. 0.91

02:13:09.000 926, we're going to Tampa 10 sometime early October.

02:13:14.000 We're going to Nashville, that's 1010.

02:13:16.000 We're going to Nashville 1024.

02:13:18.000 Go to jackbrunch.com.

02:13:19.000 Follow us on Twitter at jackbrunch.

02:13:21.000 Hope to see you there.

02:13:22.000 I'll be there live in person.

02:13:23.000 We'll have a great time.

02:13:24.000 Very cool.

02:13:24.000 Did you shout out Jack Murphy live?

02:13:26.000 Jack Murphy live on Twitter and on YouTube.

02:13:29.000 We are pretty epic, Jack.

02:13:30.000 140,000 followers on Twitter.

02:13:32.000 You've come so far.

02:13:33.000 I have.

02:13:34.000 I keep touching everyone's want to see like in the five years ago you started.

02:13:37.000 Five years ago.

02:13:38.000 Now you've created like an, I mean, essentially it's, it's not an empire.

02:13:40.000 It's the budding of the empire.

02:13:42.000 It is.

02:13:42.000 It's not quite a Tim cast empire.

02:13:44.000 When I sit next to Tim and it's like empire kingdom.

02:13:46.000 But let's say I'm content and the, and the, and the positive impact that we're having on the world, the, the individuals that we're touching, that's what it's all about.

02:13:52.000 Thank you.

02:13:53.000 Yeah.

02:13:54.000 Uh, Ian Crossland, peace and love.

02:13:56.000 Follow that guy.

02:13:57.000 Check out my new cooking show, it's coming soon.

02:13:59.000 It won't be called The Joy of Cooking.

02:14:01.000 It will not, no.

02:14:02.000 Ian's Crazy Kitchen.

02:14:03.000 Yes, that'll be good.

02:14:04.000 That's actually with two K's.

02:14:05.000 Two Crazy Kitchens? 0.97

02:14:06.000 Perfect, I love it.

02:14:07.000 You guys should follow me on Twitter, but before I tell you where to follow me, I will say that sometimes I get this, uh, why are you guys on YouTube, you're playing their game, whatever.

02:14:16.000 I love the idea of using YouTube to direct people over to our website.

02:14:21.000 I think that's brilliant.

02:14:23.000 And I love the idea of using their own tools against them.

02:14:25.000 That's some jujitsu right there.

02:14:27.000 Perfect.

02:14:27.000 Let's call it, we've built a bridge that funnels people off of you.

02:14:30.000 This is what I was being criticized for in the mainstream media when they started slamming our website.

02:14:35.000 They were like, he's creating a funnel off of YouTube's safe space into conspiracy BS and stuff.

02:14:41.000 Radicalizing.

02:14:42.000 Yes.

02:14:43.000 So at least there's that, but did you shout out your... No, I didn't.

02:14:46.000 You guys can follow me for more hot takes like that at Sour Patch Lids.

02:14:49.000 As I attempt to gain more followers on Sour Patch Kids, please, it's all I care about.

02:14:52.000 TimCast.com member segment should be up around 11 or so p.m., and we will see you all there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 15, 2021

Timcast IRL - Nicki Minaj SUSPENDED Over Vaccine Posts, Praised Tucker Carlson w-Jack Murphy

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