Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - New Hampshire Rep Moves To Secede From The United States w-Bill Ottman & Libby Emmons

00:00:00.000 Peace.

00:00:20.000 If you've not heard of it, you probably should be following our good friend Luke Rudkowski on Twitter or his YouTube channel because I'm pretty sure he's up there right now.

00:00:28.000 He'll be coming back soon, but he's a big fan of this.

00:00:30.000 Basically, the idea is they want everybody who's libertarian, liberty-minded to move to New Hampshire and pledge to support a free state.

00:00:38.000 And now a state rep has filed paperwork to secede from the union or whatever.

00:00:45.000 However, you know, you got to be really careful with this stuff because they're like considering a proposal drafted to be up for debate or something like that.

00:00:52.000 But basically the paperwork would put on the ballot that New Hampshire should be a free independent state.

00:00:57.000 It's a sovereign nation independent from the U.S.

00:01:00.000 And, uh, this is not surprising.

00:01:03.000 We know about the Free State Project.

00:01:05.000 We know about the people who are moving there and why they're doing it.

00:01:09.000 And I gotta tell you, as much as there's a lot of establishment people in New Hampshire going, No!

00:01:12.000 Stop! 1.00

00:01:13.000 Don't! 0.57

00:01:14.000 If the Free State Project works and people keep moving there that are staunch libertarian, anarcho-capitalist, or even some people are anarcho-communist and leftist, being like, yo, we'll take a free sovereign nation and build our own little commune.

00:01:26.000 If all of the true anarchists and libertarians do that, it's only a matter of time until you actually have a vote that passes and you have a state saying, we hereby secede.

00:01:36.000 So I'll tell you this, as much as this we can expect, there's a lot of stuff going on in this country that says to me, country's falling apart.

00:01:42.000 I mean people have been predicting divorce.

00:01:44.000 There was this tweet by Mike Cernovich earlier where he said something to the effect of it's the first time in history that the elites have tried to Subjugate an armed warrior class or like like take their children or something like that And we don't know how that will play out because there's no historical examples of this and like it's a good point You know people who leave the military and they're loaded up on guns like crazy are not gonna sit back.

00:02:07.000 So it's possible States just start breaking apart.

00:02:10.000 We already have in Texas They passed this bill with like, we're gonna make our own suppressors.

00:02:14.000 And the federal government has no jurisdiction over this.

00:02:16.000 And the federal government, the ATF, is like, yes we do.

00:02:18.000 And now they're arguing, you've got sanctuary gun laws, you've got sanctuary immigration states.

00:02:24.000 More and more, the federal government seems to be slowly fizzling in a lot of ways.

00:02:29.000 Joe Biden comes out and gives his announcements where he's basically only speaking to blue states.

00:02:34.000 We've seen it from NPR data on vaccination rates in states.

00:02:37.000 The states with the highest vaccination rates are all Biden states, and the states with low vaccination rates, like 40% and below, are all red states.

00:02:45.000 So when Biden comes out and says, our patience is wearing thin, He's looking right into the faces of the people in red states and saying, you better do what I'm telling you.

00:02:54.000 He's not saying to people in the blue states.

00:02:56.000 So that divide, it's there.

00:02:58.000 So we'll talk about a lot of the stuff.

00:02:59.000 We got some tech stuff to talk about, too.

00:03:01.000 There's a lot going on with the crypto space.

00:03:02.000 So we're being joined by Bill Ottman.

00:03:05.000 Hey, hey.

00:03:05.000 Introduce yourself, good friend.

00:03:06.000 What's up, everyone?

00:03:07.000 I'm Bill, co-founder of Mines, Mines.com.

00:03:11.000 Whatever you do, don't go to Mines.com.

00:03:14.000 There you go.

00:03:14.000 That's some Alex Jones stuff.

00:03:17.000 We got Libby.

00:03:18.000 She's back.

00:03:19.000 Hi.

00:03:19.000 How's it going?

00:03:20.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:03:20.000 I'm the editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial.

00:03:23.000 Right on.

00:03:23.000 Glad to be here.

00:03:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:25.000 We have some stuff to talk about with the Post Millennial.

00:03:27.000 For sure.

00:03:27.000 Oh, yeah.

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00:03:33.000 They're coming after Andy.

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00:05:48.000 Ah, the world is falling apart.

00:05:50.000 From TimCast.com, New Hampshire lawmakers consider proposal to secede from the United States.

00:05:56.000 Amazing.

00:05:57.000 Lawmakers in New Hampshire are considering a constitutional amendment to secede from the rest of the country.

00:06:01.000 State Rep.

00:06:02.000 Mike Silvia filed a proposal that would make New Hampshire its own nation-state, independent from D.C.

00:06:08.000 There are hundreds of examples of the federal government overstepping its authority.

00:06:12.000 Enough is enough.

00:06:13.000 We should put this before the voters to decide.

00:06:16.000 Sylvia cited the U.S.

00:06:17.000 CDC and Prevention's eviction ban, Joe Biden's mandate, which requires federal workers to get the COVID vaccine as examples of federal overreach.

00:06:25.000 He also mentioned that New Hampshire, which has no state income tax, is obligated to pay federal income tax.

00:06:30.000 We are a donor state that pays out more in federal income taxes than we get back.

00:06:35.000 Seceding from the U.S.

00:06:36.000 would benefit residents financially, even if it does mean a loss of federal funding, the rep noted.

00:06:41.000 I want to make this point, too, about what they're saying about seceding.

00:06:46.000 Joe Biden now, with the eviction moratorium, he bypassed the legislature.

00:06:50.000 With the Supreme Court then saying, we're shutting it down, it's illegal.

00:06:54.000 And then him launching another moratorium, bypass the Supreme Court.

00:06:58.000 Now with this vaccine mandate, he is once again bypassing Congress.

00:07:01.000 We are a nation at this point.

00:07:03.000 So what Jack Murphy was saying the other day, we're not a republic anymore.

00:07:06.000 Laws are made when the sovereign decrees, and then the plebs are awarded a chance, if they are negatively impacted, to file a petition to the courts to challenge this new law.

00:07:19.000 That's the way this country's been run for the past two years, with all these lockdowns and everything.

00:07:22.000 Cuomo killed people.

00:07:24.000 Literally killed people in New York City.

00:07:26.000 So when New Hampshire comes out and says, hey, we're done with this, I'm like, people need to realize This is actually fairly serious.

00:07:34.000 And I'll tell you something else.

00:07:35.000 Something that had me thinking.

00:07:37.000 In Florida, for instance, where they banned... I'm pretty sure they banned the vaccine mandate.

00:07:40.000 Yeah, they did.

00:07:41.000 For business establishments.

00:07:43.000 In West Virginia, we went to this city called... I think it was called Thurmond.

00:07:46.000 I'm not sure.

00:07:47.000 And there was a train station that was federal property.

00:07:51.000 And there was a man inside working for the park service selling stuff.

00:07:55.000 And if you wanted to go in, you had to wear a mask.

00:07:59.000 Now, here's my question.

00:08:00.000 If Florida says you cannot have mask mandates, which they ban in schools, I'm pretty sure.

00:08:05.000 I'm not sure about for businesses.

00:08:07.000 They banned it for schools for sure.

00:08:09.000 But what about businesses?

00:08:10.000 I'm not sure.

00:08:11.000 So here's my point.

00:08:12.000 If a federal building is operating a business that sells merchandise in a state that says you cannot legally do this, which means the federal government is violating the law in the state.

00:08:24.000 Can state troopers go in and shut them down?

00:08:27.000 I'm pretty sure federal law supersedes, doesn't it, in a lot of cases?

00:08:30.000 But there's no federal law mandating masks.

00:08:32.000 No, it's just a requirement.

00:08:33.000 It's just a presidential decree.

00:08:35.000 So, and truth be told, in Florida, it is also a governor's decree.

00:08:39.000 So I think it should absolutely go through the legislature, even if it's Ron DeSantis or Abbott.

00:08:44.000 My question is, there is no law in the United States mandating masks.

00:08:48.000 So these federal buildings have no federal law saying they should be wearing masks.

00:08:54.000 It's just a policy.

00:08:55.000 They just all do it.

00:08:56.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.000 So if Florida does have a law, or at the very least, if Biden says my mandate is sound, okay, then Ron DeSantis says my policy is sound, then what gives the federal government actors the right to operate business in the state under violation of the state's executive orders?

00:09:14.000 Well, have there been any confrontations in Florida?

00:09:17.000 Well, that's that's so interesting because so much of this is about enforcement.

00:09:21.000 Right.

00:09:22.000 Right.

00:09:22.000 We haven't seen police are not able to enforce mask mandates.

00:09:26.000 Primarily, the New York City Police Department has refused to do that kind of enforcement.

00:09:32.000 New York City has this vaccine vaccine mandate thing.

00:09:35.000 The New York City Police Department is not enforcing it.

00:09:37.000 It's like civilians.

00:09:38.000 It's health inspectors.

00:09:40.000 It's random doofus hostesses at restaurants saying, excuse me, like, I really need to see your vax card and I.D.

00:09:47.000 That's what's going on.

00:09:48.000 So there hasn't been any violence about it at this point because there hasn't been any enforcement other than civilian on civilian enforcement.

00:09:58.000 We saw that in California when they were doing the lockdowns.

00:10:00.000 It was health inspectors versus like a business owner, you know?

00:10:04.000 If you're in a restaurant in New York, you live in New York, right?

00:10:07.000 I do.

00:10:07.000 If you go in, and I don't think you have experience with this, but I'm just wondering what your thoughts are, and someone says, can I see your Vax card?

00:10:13.000 And you say, no.

00:10:15.000 What are they going to do?

00:10:16.000 I don't know.

00:10:17.000 Because the cops won't enforce it, you're saying?

00:10:18.000 Yeah, the cops are not going to enforce it.

00:10:21.000 I think then it's just a question of like, you standing there saying no, and the person there going, well, sorry.

00:10:27.000 There was actually a case today.

00:10:28.000 We ran a story about this in the Postmillennial.

00:10:31.000 It was this viral video.

00:10:32.000 I don't know if you saw it.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.65

00:10:33.000 It was this like white restaurant manager or owner or whatever trying to kick a black family out of a restaurant. 0.65

00:10:40.000 Yikes! 1.00

00:10:40.000 It's dark stuff. 1.00

00:10:41.000 So it's like systemic racism for everything except this apparently and you had the rest of the patrons in the restaurant saying like oh you need to show your vax card and he's like we're not vaccinated and Yeah, he was citing a religious exemption.

00:10:55.000 But the reason I brought this up in reference to New Hampshire, because I don't want to veer too much off of you talking about secession from the United States.

00:11:03.000 I think this family should move there. 0.95

00:11:05.000 In the Civil War, what kicked it off was Fort Sumter, when these states were like, yo, we secede, screw you.

00:11:12.000 And then Union soldiers were still there.

00:11:14.000 And South Carolina, I think it was South Carolina, was like, yo, get your troops out.

00:11:17.000 And they were like, no.

00:11:18.000 And they said, then we're going to force you out.

00:11:20.000 And then the fight broke out.

00:11:21.000 And then a bunch of other states were like, dude!

00:11:22.000 Dude, we're out.

00:11:24.000 So if in one of these red states that has specifically issued a mandate,

00:11:30.000 like a law or an executive order or whatever, saying you cannot mandate masks,

00:11:35.000 and then there is a federal building saying, we will kick you out unless you wear a mask,

00:11:40.000 can the state then go to the federal government and say, get out, you're in violation of our laws?

00:11:46.000 And I know that's not as serious as soldiers occupying the base.

00:11:50.000 I'm just saying, like, the potential for a clash between states and the federal government exists.

00:11:56.000 That could be a single grain of sand that adds to the heap over time.

00:11:59.000 But I genuinely find that interesting, especially when West Virginia has no mask mandate.

00:12:03.000 But these federal buildings do have one.

00:12:05.000 I don't think West Virginia banned stores from having masks, and I don't think Florida did that either.

00:12:10.000 It's just kind of a hypothetical.

00:12:12.000 If we move into vaccine mandate territory, if Joe Biden says that anybody who wants to go into a federal building has to have proof of vaccination, then you get into crazy territory with Texas and Florida, South Dakota, or whatever, where we could potentially see states say, Now we actually want to secede, or we might get an original jurisdiction claim, which would be like what happened in the election with all the states going straight to the Supreme Court and challenging the federal government's authority.

00:12:38.000 That would be so—it's so interesting, because we haven't seen any actual clashes, right?

00:12:44.000 I mean, we— You know those videos are coming.

00:12:47.000 What do you mean?

00:12:47.000 You mean clashes between, like, federal and state?

00:12:49.000 No, I mean between people, right?

00:12:52.000 We saw the people shouting at each other today.

00:12:54.000 Wasn't there a nurse who just got fired? 1.00

00:12:57.000 There have been a lot of these issues.

00:12:59.000 And then the security was trying to have her leave.

00:13:02.000 There have been a lot of clashes.

00:13:04.000 There's a video right now of a guy harassing a woman at Target.

00:13:07.000 He's wearing a pin that says, I'm vaccinated.

00:13:09.000 And she's like, leave me alone.

00:13:10.000 He's like, no.

00:13:11.000 And he's following her around and security's stopping him.

00:13:14.000 There's one video of a guy stalking a woman and he goes, is anybody else mad that we have to wear a mask and she doesn't?

00:13:20.000 That's the thing too. 0.98

00:13:21.000 It's like once you've accepted the tyranny upon yourself and then you really need to enforce it on others just to make sure that you're not the fool. 0.92

00:13:31.000 Right. 0.87

00:13:32.000 And that's kind of a problem.

00:13:34.000 We have that going on.

00:13:36.000 I saw this post from this guy, theater company situation in San Francisco.

00:13:43.000 And this guy was complaining that he had gone to a theater performance and there were people who took their masks off

00:13:49.000 once the lights went down.

00:13:50.000 And he complained to literally everybody.

00:13:53.000 And he started saying, he wrote this whole post about it.

00:13:57.000 And it was, he was saying that these people not masking ruins the experience for everybody else.

00:14:06.000 And he complained to the theater company and the ushers and the patrons themselves and literally everyone.

00:14:11.000 And he took it online, not even realizing that he's the one who's ruining this.

00:14:16.000 He can't just live and let live.

00:14:17.000 If he wants to, you know, wear a mask or a tie or a belt, whatever, that's his issue.

00:14:23.000 In that video you brought up where it's the black family and he's like, yo, this is segregation.

00:14:28.000 He yells out something like, is this the country you want to live in?

00:14:31.000 And someone yells, yes.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 People were like, yes, like they like the boot.

00:14:36.000 It's horrible.

00:14:38.000 It's just and it's it's terrifying to watch this happen and to watch civilians.

00:14:43.000 That's the thing that I find so horrifying about it is the way that the enforcement works.

00:14:48.000 So in New York City, this vaccine mandate thing, It's, there's no cops doing it.

00:14:54.000 There's, you know, maybe the random health inspector is going to show up and you're going to have situations where, you know, somebody accidentally gets let in and it's like the, you know, serving people without proper ID situation or whatever.

00:15:07.000 But that's what we're looking at.

00:15:09.000 So I've talked to a bunch of people about it and they say they don't know how to push back against it because it's just pushing back against somebody else who is being pushed by the same rules.

00:15:18.000 I do not accept that.

00:15:20.000 I don't accept that at all.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, well, it's what people are looking at.

00:15:24.000 They don't know how to deal with it.

00:15:27.000 Like, do you show up at the Starbucks that's making you wear a mask with your gun?

00:15:34.000 Like, what do you do?

00:15:35.000 No, you just don't wear a mask.

00:15:37.000 You don't wear a mask.

00:15:38.000 You don't show your vaccine card.

00:15:39.000 And the person says at the restaurant, OK, then you can't come in.

00:15:43.000 And you do?

00:15:44.000 So what do you do?

00:15:44.000 You just walk away.

00:15:46.000 You just don't... So it leads also to people self-segregating themselves out of society.

00:15:52.000 I think that when someone says, oh, but I'm being forced to do it too, it's like, no, you're not.

00:15:58.000 No, you're not.

00:15:58.000 You're not being forced to do it.

00:15:59.000 You're just choosing to do it because you don't want to deal with... you don't want to be responsible.

00:16:03.000 Or you don't want to lose your job.

00:16:06.000 I just don't think they'd lose their job either.

00:16:08.000 So the person at the restaurant says, show me your vaccine card and show me your ID and you say no.

00:16:14.000 And they say, I'm not going to let you in.

00:16:16.000 What do you do?

00:16:16.000 Do you just walk past them and sit down?

00:16:19.000 You don't go there.

00:16:20.000 Or do you leave?

00:16:20.000 Don't give money to businesses that are willing to enforce it.

00:16:23.000 I get it.

00:16:24.000 But how do you even know which ones are going to enforce it until you show up?

00:16:28.000 They're all going to say yes.

00:16:31.000 So I called 25.

00:16:32.000 One of them said no.

00:16:33.000 One of them was like, I don't know.

00:16:36.000 No, I think that's fine.

00:16:37.000 Maybe they just didn't realize what was going on because they didn't pay attention.

00:16:39.000 That's possible.

00:16:42.000 Go there and, you know, here's what you do.

00:16:44.000 It's really, really simple.

00:16:45.000 You go to your bank, you take out as much money as you can in cash, then you put on a stovepipe hat or whatever and a tuxedo, and you walk up twirling a cane, and knocking the door, and you walk in, and you've got all the cash in your hand, and you're flipping it around, and when they're like, do you have a VEX card?

00:17:01.000 Oh no, I don't.

00:17:02.000 But look at all this money I was going to spend.

00:17:04.000 And then when they kick you out, go, I guess you don't want money.

00:17:07.000 I'm kidding.

00:17:07.000 Don't actually do that.

00:17:08.000 They don't, though.

00:17:09.000 They don't want your money.

00:17:10.000 No, they do.

00:17:11.000 There was a bunch of restaurants that have been complaining.

00:17:13.000 There was a story where a journalist went around asking.

00:17:15.000 They said revenues are down 25%.

00:17:17.000 And they can't handle this.

00:17:18.000 It's destroying their businesses.

00:17:20.000 And I'm just like, if you still live in New York after literally everything you've seen, I'm going to put my feet back, grab a drink, and just laugh.

00:17:28.000 Yeah, well, as someone who lives in New York, like, it's sort of, you know... How about don't?

00:17:36.000 How about don't?

00:17:37.000 But... I mean, we have real world data now that psychologists are going to have an absolute field day with, because this is like what, you know, all of the classic studies on obedience were based around.

00:17:49.000 And now, There's just data everywhere and real-world information.

00:17:55.000 There's going to be crazy studies that happen based on all of these events.

00:17:59.000 We live in a simulation.

00:18:00.000 There might be, but we destroyed our entire social sciences.

00:18:03.000 No, no, no.

00:18:03.000 We live in a simulation and this is the purpose.

00:18:07.000 To see how many people would just be like, You hit me harder, Daddy!

00:18:11.000 To gather data for the simulators.

00:18:12.000 But we already saw that.

00:18:13.000 That was like the whole first half of the 20th century.

00:18:15.000 Oh, yeah, I know.

00:18:16.000 We said, hit me harder, Daddy, until I bleed, please.

00:18:19.000 But maybe the test is, with a history knowing this, what happens to a population with a history of negative consequences to authoritarianism?

00:18:31.000 What happens when you then reintroduce authoritarianism to a population that knows it?

00:18:36.000 And we can clearly see.

00:18:37.000 That's why I call it a cult.

00:18:40.000 You know, these are people who just believe whatever they hear on TV, even though it's like lies all the time.

00:18:44.000 They say like, I trust the science.

00:18:46.000 It's like, you didn't even read it.

00:18:48.000 They're like doing, they criticize people who do research like, all you did was read a few articles.

00:18:52.000 Did you do a double blind controlled study?

00:18:55.000 And it's like, no, and you didn't even read the article.

00:18:58.000 It's like, you've done less than I have.

00:19:00.000 So those people in mass are demanding vaccine mandates, cheering for it, and we got so much on this stuff.

00:19:09.000 I'm saying, this is why we started with the New Hampshire seceding from the union thing, because I'm like, yo, this is all just gonna fall apart.

00:19:17.000 You ready for this?

00:19:18.000 Here you go.

00:19:18.000 Libby, you live in New York City, right?

00:19:21.000 I do.

00:19:22.000 De Blasio rolls out COVID booster shot plan utilizing all NYC vaccination sites.

00:19:28.000 We're ready!

00:19:29.000 So it's only a matter of time until you're the person at the restaurant with them saying, do you have proof of vaccination?

00:19:34.000 And you show them and they'll go, this only has two on it.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:38.000 And you're going to be like, but I'm vaccinated.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, but now we're doing boosters.

00:19:41.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:41.000 To be fair.

00:19:42.000 That's what's next.

00:19:43.000 The current mandate is for at least one shot.

00:19:45.000 Right.

00:19:45.000 So it's going to be- Which is funny, isn't it?

00:19:47.000 New York, New Orleans, San Francisco, and LA.

00:19:53.000 The funny thing is- And then all of California, probably.

00:19:56.000 They're saying it's a vaccine mandate, but you don't have to be fully vaccinated.

00:20:01.000 So my question there is, is one shot enough?

00:20:04.000 It's just because it's about compliance.

00:20:06.000 It's only about compliance.

00:20:08.000 Yeah.

00:20:08.000 You can, you can, a vaccine card is not a negative COVID test.

00:20:13.000 You can, you could actually have a vaccine card, have been vaccinated, contract COVID, and then go to this restaurant, show them your vaccine card and sit down?

00:20:20.000 Like that's where we're at?

00:20:21.000 The other thing too is the thing with the antibodies, right?

00:20:23.000 So if you've had COVID and you have a natural immunity, that doesn't count.

00:20:27.000 Which is absurd, right?

00:20:28.000 That's just absurd.

00:20:29.000 And for big events.

00:20:30.000 I was just at a music festival in Greenwich and basically, you know, unvaccinated people were required to have a test and vaccinated were not required to have a test.

00:20:39.000 I mean, why wouldn't everybody be required to have a test?

00:20:42.000 Because everybody can spread it.

00:20:43.000 So, like, that is a core hypocrisy.

00:20:45.000 Everyone should have to get tested if everyone is still spreading it.

00:20:49.000 Right.

00:20:49.000 How is that controversial?

00:20:50.000 Did you see that story about the woman who was vaccinated but got COVID and died from it?

00:20:54.000 And in their obituary, they were like, she was vaccinated but was infected by someone who chose not to be.

00:20:59.000 And it's like, well, you don't know that.

00:21:01.000 Like breakthrough cases are rare, but they happen.

00:21:03.000 She got one.

00:21:04.000 Maybe she got it from somebody who also had a breakthrough case.

00:21:07.000 Just making that up.

00:21:08.000 But this is the craziest thing when they say stuff like, we must protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.

00:21:14.000 And I'm like, I don't understand what that means.

00:21:16.000 So the response from many of these people on the left has been, we're saying that the unvaccinated are loading up hospital beds and congesting the hospitals. 0.56

00:21:26.000 And I was like, oh, so we should protect the fit from the fat?

00:21:30.000 So fat people should get the boot from the hospital for triage for only the healthy people?

00:21:33.000 Well, and of course, that was Mayor Michael Bloomberg's thing when he was the mayor of New York.

00:21:38.000 He had, he wanted a, I think he passed it.

00:21:40.000 There was like an extra tax on big gulps or something like that.

00:21:43.000 I don't know if that passed.

00:21:44.000 It passed and then it got repealed a year later.

00:21:46.000 Yeah.

00:21:47.000 Yeah.

00:21:47.000 I know it was there for a minute.

00:21:48.000 He's the guy who famously said, tax the poor. 1.00

00:21:51.000 Unironically, literally said, poor people are too stupid to know what to buy. 1.00

00:21:54.000 So if we take their money from them and buy it for them, they'll be better off. 1.00

00:21:58.000 Yeah, I don't see how this country stays.

00:22:00.000 I'm having a bit of a problem when they're like, the vaccinated people can maybe contract it from the unvaccinated. 0.93

00:22:05.000 But it's also, from what I've learned, in the animal population.

00:22:08.000 So technically, someone could contract it from an animal, like a dog.

00:22:11.000 I don't know about that.

00:22:12.000 We talked about it before.

00:22:13.000 And people have mentioned animal, what's it called, animal reservoir?

00:22:16.000 Yes.

00:22:17.000 So that COVID can be transferred, and it can be in cats and stuff.

00:22:20.000 We know it can be in bats.

00:22:21.000 But I think there was something, it was a study or whatever, or an article that said, when it does transfer to animals, it doesn't transfer back.

00:22:28.000 But they said people got it from a bat, right?

00:22:31.000 If that's the case, then there you go.

00:22:33.000 And so that's the argument.

00:22:34.000 And there's Chinese studies that it's in ice cream.

00:22:37.000 You keep bringing that up.

00:22:38.000 Because they did one article about it.

00:22:41.000 And where did it go?

00:22:42.000 It was in the food supply.

00:22:43.000 People need to understand that Ian eats a lot of ice cream.

00:22:45.000 Not anymore!

00:22:48.000 Count me out.

00:22:49.000 Well, that's why the origin does matter in an uncensored public debate about everything related to this, because that's what science is.

00:22:57.000 Science is a public debate that has access to the full spectrum of information.

00:23:03.000 So for anyone who says that they defend science, but they're all about getting rid of misinformation, well, actually...

00:23:10.000 you're not really helping the scientific process to play out.

00:23:12.000 Well, that's the meme. It's like, we believe in, you know, all of the scientists agree,

00:23:16.000 and then a scientist goes, actually, I have something to say, and they go, ban from social media.

00:23:20.000 All of the scientists agree.

00:23:22.000 So you got a bunch of doctors that have been talking about alternative therapies and stuff,

00:23:26.000 but they get banned from every platform.

00:23:28.000 So it's like when they say, a doc... This is what I love.

00:23:31.000 I keep telling people, like, go see a doctor you trust.

00:23:34.000 Don't just take it from celebrities or TV doctors.

00:23:37.000 And it was really funny when leftists started attacking me for that.

00:23:41.000 And I'm like, why are you mad at me?

00:23:43.000 And they're like, you're just scaring people.

00:23:44.000 It's safe.

00:23:45.000 They should go to the parking lot at the 7-Eleven and get their vaccine from the, you know, the pop-ups that they do.

00:23:49.000 And I was like, they should talk to their doctor first and then go to the pop-up.

00:23:53.000 And they're like, no!

00:23:54.000 And you know why?

00:23:55.000 Because some doctors might give you better, more personalized advice and oppose their political medical opinions.

00:24:03.000 Well, these are the same people who definitely don't want women to see ultrasounds before they go through with abortions.

00:24:11.000 They really don't want women to see that. 0.96

00:24:12.000 Oh yeah, because I'm not allowed to hug the baby.

00:24:13.000 So they oppose those laws.

00:24:15.000 And then, you know, because if you see an ultrasound, I was pregnant one time, and you see the ultrasound and it's crazy.

00:24:20.000 You're like, oh my god, that's my baby.

00:24:23.000 That's a life.

00:24:23.000 So Texas does that.

00:24:25.000 Texas requires that.

00:24:26.000 They really complain about that stuff, like forcing you to see an ultrasound.

00:24:29.000 It's really bad.

00:24:29.000 It's like forcing you to see the life inside your body.

00:24:32.000 How strange.

00:24:33.000 How crazy.

00:24:34.000 What are you going to do when the booster happens in New York?

00:24:36.000 Oh, I'm not.

00:24:37.000 I don't think I'm getting get a booster.

00:24:39.000 Because there have been a bunch of studies saying you don't need it.

00:24:41.000 I don't have any interest in getting it.

00:24:43.000 But then what do you do?

00:24:45.000 What happens when they're like, fully vaccinated now means booster shots every five months?

00:24:49.000 I don't know.

00:24:50.000 You know, I gotta say.

00:24:52.000 You can leave.

00:24:53.000 I'm at like, I'm sort of at a total loss.

00:24:55.000 I keep I keep looking for other places to live.

00:24:59.000 You know what it is?

00:25:00.000 It's interesting.

00:25:01.000 I don't have anything tying me to New York.

00:25:04.000 I used to have a lot of things tying me to New York.

00:25:07.000 Like lots and lots of things.

00:25:09.000 And now I have like, there's no reason for me to be there.

00:25:13.000 There's also no reason for me to be anywhere else.

00:25:16.000 I basically have no reason to be anywhere at all.

00:25:19.000 There is a reason to be somewhere else.

00:25:21.000 But there is a reason to be somewhere else.

00:25:22.000 There's a reason to be somewhere else.

00:25:24.000 But which other else?

00:25:26.000 Which else?

00:25:26.000 Well, hold on.

00:25:27.000 Which else should I be in?

00:25:28.000 Montana.

00:25:29.000 That works.

00:25:30.000 Montana?

00:25:30.000 You're closer to Canada and those post-millennial peeps, right?

00:25:33.000 They're in Vancouver, right?

00:25:34.000 No, they're in Quebec.

00:25:36.000 Oh, really?

00:25:37.000 Up by North New Hampshire.

00:25:38.000 They speak French?

00:25:39.000 Not really.

00:25:41.000 There's a big supervolcano in Montana.

00:25:45.000 Oh, really?

00:25:46.000 Yeah, but Andy knows up in Portland.

00:25:49.000 Go to Bozeman.

00:25:50.000 That's a college town.

00:25:51.000 I'm sure it's very blue.

00:25:52.000 These are options.

00:25:53.000 I will put them on the map.

00:25:54.000 You should see my map. 0.57

00:25:55.000 It's ridiculous.

00:25:56.000 I could go here. 0.93

00:25:56.000 I could go there. 0.93

00:25:59.000 I mean, the other thing, too, that I've only ever lived in the Northeast, right?

00:26:04.000 Like I've lived in I've never lived in Maine.

00:26:07.000 Maine's great.

00:26:08.000 It's kind of nice.

00:26:09.000 I actually went up to Maine with Bill one time on vacation.

00:26:12.000 The water is freezing.

00:26:13.000 Well sure, yeah.

00:26:14.000 And they have black flies.

00:26:15.000 Those big things that bite you.

00:26:18.000 They have green ones in New Jersey.

00:26:19.000 You know what they do?

00:26:21.000 When they bite you, it's not really quite a bite at first.

00:26:24.000 It's like these little scissors, these scissors jaws, and they slice away at your skin and then they bury their face inside and suck your blood out that way.

00:26:34.000 That's why the bite hurts so much.

00:26:35.000 Oh yeah, I think I heard about that.

00:26:36.000 Because it's not like a little needle, it's like scissors.

00:26:39.000 Up in there, wow. 0.91

00:26:40.000 Those are like those black mosquitoes. 0.94

00:26:42.000 They look engineered.

00:26:43.000 Have you ever seen one of those up close?

00:26:44.000 They look like robots.

00:26:45.000 Or the ones with like the... I got bit by one in Brooklyn.

00:26:47.000 With like the patterns on them?

00:26:50.000 Oh, I haven't seen that.

00:26:51.000 The little stripey things?

00:26:52.000 Yeah, yeah, I think that's... They're terrible.

00:26:54.000 They're like leopard mosquitoes or something.

00:26:56.000 What is it?

00:26:56.000 I don't know.

00:26:57.000 They're Dr. Seuss mosquitoes.

00:26:58.000 If you go to Maine, right?

00:27:00.000 You're in the Northeast and you can get a big plot.

00:27:03.000 Hey, wait a minute.

00:27:04.000 Hey! 0.99

00:27:04.000 New Hampshire! 0.99

00:27:05.000 New Hampshire!

00:27:06.000 Do you know I have a lot of family there?

00:27:07.000 There you go!

00:27:08.000 Look at that!

00:27:08.000 So you got reason to leave New York and reason to be in New Hampshire.

00:27:11.000 And you can do whatever you want for the most part.

00:27:11.000 Perhaps.

00:27:14.000 You can have chickens.

00:27:16.000 We're big fans.

00:27:16.000 Chickens?

00:27:17.000 We're the biggest fans.

00:27:19.000 Has there been a secession in any country in recent years?

00:27:21.000 What would I possibly do with a bunch of chickens?

00:27:24.000 Has there been any form of an actual secession in common, you know, memory?

00:27:31.000 In the U.S.?

00:27:32.000 Or, like, anywhere.

00:27:33.000 I mean, anywhere.

00:27:34.000 Part of Idaho is trying, or part of Oregon is trying to see to Idaho.

00:27:38.000 When did the whole Sudanese thing happen with Sudan and South Sudan?

00:27:42.000 That was a while ago.

00:27:43.000 Yeah, so probably not in our lifetime, unless... Look, I'll be honest.

00:27:48.000 Superchats.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, superchats.

00:27:49.000 I wouldn't know off the top of my head.

00:27:50.000 I'm sure a lot of people are gonna be like, oh yeah, look at these countries and look at that.

00:27:52.000 There's a bunch of different people across the United States trying to succeed.

00:27:55.000 You've got the state of Jefferson.

00:27:56.000 You've got a district in Colorado trying to join Wyoming.

00:28:01.000 The Czech Republic and Slovakia, they split up.

00:28:03.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:28:04.000 We had all kinds of Eastern Bloc stuff.

00:28:05.000 That was, what, 92, 93?

00:28:08.000 The Soviet Union collapsed.

00:28:09.000 There you go.

00:28:10.000 We had all of those Baltic states.

00:28:13.000 But it's not the same thing.

00:28:14.000 No.

00:28:15.000 I guess it is.

00:28:16.000 I guess once they just break apart, the Union no longer exists.

00:28:19.000 Well, it's definitely different.

00:28:21.000 The United States is different.

00:28:23.000 It's different worldwide, right?

00:28:25.000 When the U.S.

00:28:27.000 is the beacon of freedom.

00:28:27.000 The U.S.

00:28:28.000 It's all of these things that we, American exceptionalists, say that it is.

00:28:32.000 And it's these things in part because we say it is.

00:28:35.000 And it's these things in part because of our history.

00:28:37.000 When the U.S., if the U.S.

00:28:39.000 crumbles, if the U.S.

00:28:41.000 loses freedom and liberty, then the world loses those things.

00:28:45.000 It's not just us.

00:28:47.000 It's the entire world.

00:28:49.000 I just want people to realize something.

00:28:50.000 I want you to imagine something.

00:28:51.000 I mean, Australia is not a free place.

00:28:53.000 Right.

00:28:54.000 We know that the people... You know, I love to cite the poll on economics, that Democrats think the economy is doing fairly well, but independent Republicans think it's doing fairly bad, which is objectively true, especially with the latest inflation numbers and all that stuff, and the forecasting down to the GDP and things like that, which Jack still says is still pretty good.

00:29:13.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:29:15.000 I want you to imagine these people who live in California who voted for Gavin Newsom.

00:29:20.000 They adamantly believe YOU are in a death cult.

00:29:24.000 And it's funny because you'll see it on Reddit, you'll see it on Twitter, they say, these people are in a death cult.

00:29:29.000 And you're like, it's really weird how, in this political faction, we can have liberals, moderates, centrists, conservatives, religious folk, all having discussions and debates on a variety of issues.

00:29:42.000 All disagreeing, but agreeing on liberty and principle, and then being told they're in a cult, and then you have the completely homogenous faction on the left believing they're not in the cult, but they just believe whatever they're told on TV.

00:29:54.000 My favorite is when you go to, like, r slash politics on Reddit, and there'll be a headline that's an outright lie, and if you actually click the article, you'll see it's not true, but all of the comments are like, we're so smart, and it's true.

00:30:05.000 So I want you to imagine those people.

00:30:07.000 Then I want you to imagine an actual conflict breaking out.

00:30:10.000 And they're telling themselves and their friends and their families the dangerous Trump death cultists are trying to take this country and we have to stop them.

00:30:19.000 The insurrection, all of that stuff, which they genuinely believe.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, they're gonna fight.

00:30:24.000 They're gonna fight believing that they're right.

00:30:26.000 And then people like us are gonna be sitting here being like, yo, a bunch of crazy people are trying to push crazy nonsensical things on everyone else.

00:30:35.000 The point I'm trying to make is, There is no remedying the divide.

00:30:40.000 It's impossible.

00:30:42.000 Well, I mean, that's an extreme statement.

00:30:42.000 It's not possible.

00:30:44.000 It might be possible.

00:30:46.000 I'm thinking about Hitler abusing the media to drive people crazy and radicalize people, and now the media has driven people crazy and is radicalizing people, but there's no Hitler.

00:30:56.000 There's no cult leader.

00:30:58.000 They don't need it anymore.

00:30:59.000 Somehow they didn't need a cult leader.

00:31:01.000 Let me pull up the story, and then I'll go into detail.

00:31:04.000 This is from Reuters.

00:31:05.000 Pelosi predicts what's-his-name would fail in 2024 House run.

00:31:10.000 Well, that's the headline, but I think they bury the lead.

00:31:12.000 At the end of the article, we see this.

00:31:16.000 I say to my Republican friends, and I do have some, take back your party, Pelosi said.

00:31:22.000 You have now been hijacked by a cult that is just not good for our country.

00:31:26.000 Dude, there's no, there's no remedying this.

00:31:28.000 Nancy Pelosi is what, she's 80 years old.

00:31:30.000 She's older than that, isn't she? 0.99

00:31:32.000 She is as crooked as they come. 0.99

00:31:32.000 82. 0.99

00:31:35.000 Joe Biden got a prosecutor.

00:31:37.000 I won't say because, but he was investigating Burisma, a company his son was a board of directors on.

00:31:45.000 Joe Biden flew his son on Air Force Two to China to negotiate a private equity deal.

00:31:51.000 Joe Biden, when he was put in charge of Iraq, all of a sudden his brother gets these lucrative contracts for doing construction in Iraq. 0.94

00:31:58.000 The dude is as crooked as they come, we know it. 0.89

00:32:01.000 And Pelosi has the nerve to say that Everyone else is in the cult. 0.98

00:32:05.000 You cannot convince Pelosi voters who keep empowering that crooked, corrupt behavior that they are empowering crooked.

00:32:13.000 Look at this.

00:32:14.000 Gavin Newsom just won.

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 They won't even recall a guy who says, you're not allowed to go outside, but I'm going to go to a restaurant without wearing a mask.

00:32:22.000 I think they just really like his hair.

00:32:23.000 Yeah.

00:32:24.000 I think we're, we're dealing with, with, with NPC lemming type, whatever the, look, you see Pendulet sitting there with, with Newsome giving a thumbs up. 1.00

00:32:34.000 These people have gone insane.

00:32:35.000 Pendulet was a, was a Cato libertarian.

00:32:38.000 Yeah.

00:32:39.000 He was a question authority guy.

00:32:40.000 And now he's sitting there with the guy who's ruling by decree with a thumbs up, happy it's happening.

00:32:44.000 They've lost their minds.

00:32:46.000 Well, they're using crisis as a reason to abandon our traditions and our representative government.

00:32:53.000 And they're saying that because it's a crisis, we now get to abandon all the rules and do these executive and, you know, overarching things.

00:33:02.000 And what's being missed, of course, is that it's during a crisis.

00:33:06.000 It's when things are at their most dire that you have to hold fast to your principles and to your values.

00:33:13.000 And to your traditions of government, for sure.

00:33:15.000 What we need is a representative government.

00:33:17.000 And what we have is executives all over the country making their own determinations.

00:33:23.000 Even the governors where I agree with what they're doing, which I would say in a lot of cases I agree with DeSantis.

00:33:28.000 I agree with some of Abbott's stuff as well.

00:33:31.000 I don't agree with how it's being done. 0.97

00:33:33.000 I think it's being done in a completely garbage way. 0.91

00:33:35.000 It's being done in a way that undermines the very values of our nation. 0.95

00:33:40.000 And it's just not OK.

00:33:42.000 But you said also that these people are going to fight, right?

00:33:45.000 These, like, the Newsom-supporting Pelosi types, right?

00:33:50.000 They're not going to fight.

00:33:51.000 No, no, no, no.

00:33:51.000 I'm not saying... They're going to get the government to fight for them.

00:33:54.000 And then what's everybody else going to do?

00:33:55.000 And who are the people who are in the police departments and in the army?

00:33:59.000 It's those people.

00:34:00.000 Because right now in the army, you have that lieutenant colonel who resigned and said, I will not abide by this tyranny.

00:34:06.000 I will not stand for the critical race theory.

00:34:08.000 All of these like rational thinking individuals are like I am out.

00:34:13.000 Who will be left holding the weapons?

00:34:16.000 So I'm not saying your average sitting at home filling out a mail-in ballot Gavin Newsom supporter is going to be in the streets yelling and you know flinging torches or something.

00:34:24.000 But a decent percentage of these people who go march in the streets with the doing the communist salute the red salute while they're protesting Those people will fight.

00:34:34.000 Antifa will act as partisan, engaging in violence to gain political power and territory.

00:34:40.000 The police who remain are gradually becoming more and more pro-establishment authoritarian.

00:34:45.000 The libertarian-minded people are quitting and resigning from the military and the police departments, so it's only a matter of time.

00:34:51.000 Well, there's also parallel economies and governments that are being formed right now in crypto and like the crypto economy that is forming in parallel is actually the funny part.

00:35:02.000 You know, you brought up anarcho communists and libertarians in the beginning, like in New Hampshire, they both support Bitcoin and crypto because it's a fair sort of, you know, Permissionless system that anyone can participate in.

00:35:15.000 So there are actually proposals for network states like Balaji, who's a really interesting crypto character, has proposed the idea of a network state.

00:35:25.000 And so we have all the typical geopolitical stuff happening, but we also have a crypto digital situation forming.

00:35:33.000 This is the piece of the puzzle people need to understand.

00:35:36.000 When you bank, we were talking about this in the members segment last night, when you bank, there's no money.

00:35:41.000 It's a ledger.

00:35:42.000 That's how your banking works.

00:35:43.000 I talked to my bank after there was an error and it was a problem, and they basically said, we write down that you have this number, and then when you say you want to transfer it, we erase the number, and the other bank writes down you have the number.

00:35:55.000 Money never exchanged, right?

00:35:57.000 Cryptocurrency is an alternate decentralized ledger that allows funds to move around the world Outside of the US financial system.

00:36:08.000 If there was going to be any kind of conflict in the US, it would require support, means of communication and funding.

00:36:14.000 And with decentralized communications becoming more and more prominent, particularly when we see crypto.

00:36:20.000 The US government can... Let's say it gets to the point where people are fighting in the streets.

00:36:24.000 They are, but I mean like overt political factions with new flags.

00:36:27.000 New Hampshire secedes, the federal government's moving in.

00:36:30.000 And they say, we're going to cut off all their bank accounts.

00:36:32.000 We're going to seize their funds and seize their assets.

00:36:34.000 And they go, this is New Hampshire.

00:36:36.000 We use Bitcoin here.

00:36:38.000 You can't do anything to stop it.

00:36:40.000 This allows people to exchange value outside of the US government and it strips the US government of the ability

00:36:45.000 to do anything about it which means

00:36:48.000 Resistance can be funded. So if people whether it's Antifa claiming to be the resistance

00:36:53.000 They'll get funding through crypto a lot of these alt-right dudes

00:36:56.000 We're getting massive amounts of money through crypto. The government has no but Antifa to that's what I'm saying

00:37:01.000 Yeah.

00:37:02.000 And that's an important thing.

00:37:03.000 And I think it's important not to, you know, make it like government versus crypto, because that's really not what the situation is.

00:37:09.000 We just saw El Salvador.

00:37:10.000 You know, Bitcoin is legal tender in El Salvador now.

00:37:14.000 We want to encourage the U.S.

00:37:15.000 to adopt Bitcoin because that is in the interest of the U.S.

00:37:20.000 and it's going to make the U.S.

00:37:21.000 stronger.

00:37:21.000 No, it isn't.

00:37:21.000 Yes, it is.

00:37:22.000 No, it isn't.

00:37:23.000 Absolutely.

00:37:23.000 The U.S.

00:37:24.000 has won export.

00:37:25.000 You know, we were talking about this before.

00:37:26.000 Petrodollar.

00:37:27.000 OK, that's fine.

00:37:28.000 And that's going to be happening.

00:37:29.000 But, you know, they they can't stop the momentum.

00:37:32.000 So, you know, so it is very, very bad for U.S.

00:37:36.000 hegemony that we that we will lose the petrodollar.

00:37:40.000 That's fair.

00:37:41.000 But you want to be, you know, ready for the next evolution.

00:37:46.000 And if you're not, that's why, like a lot of investors will simultaneously fund the competitors to their own investments.

00:37:53.000 Yeah, imagine their bet. Yeah. It's like when you go to the roulette table and you're like,

00:37:57.000 you've got first and, you know, the first, second and third quadrant. So you bet on two of them,

00:38:02.000 hoping that it's like a greater chance of winning, but you win slightly less.

00:38:05.000 That's basically what it is. Bill, tell me about this network state thing, because I've been

00:38:09.000 thinking about something. Well, I don't know too much about it. So we have DAOs, which are

00:38:12.000 decentralized autonomous organizations where people are essentially voting with crypto tokens

00:38:19.000 on various proposals around different projects.

00:38:22.000 And the projects are governed by the token holders of the project.

00:38:26.000 And it's all, you know, cryptographically secured and it's a public ledger.

00:38:30.000 And so you could, you know, when you talk about systems for voting, You know, why not move voting systems to cryptographic systems?

00:38:38.000 I mean, that's obvious.

00:38:40.000 So, and that's really what... There's still a lot of challenges there.

00:38:43.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:38:44.000 Like, how do you get someone... How does someone register into the system to be able to vote using crypto?

00:38:51.000 Well, there would have to be some sort of connection between the decentralized identity like in the crypto wallet tied to like a driver's license.

00:38:59.000 So, you know, if a state was actually going to become like a network crypto state, then it would have to be sort of connecting its database of identities with the actual crypto addresses.

00:39:12.000 How do you clean voter rolls?

00:39:14.000 What do you mean?

00:39:15.000 People die.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, you have to get people off the rules at a certain point.

00:39:17.000 Yeah, and then all of a sudden you've got IDs, like someone passes away, and then a week later someone's like, I got access to their crypto, and you know.

00:39:24.000 So there's definitely edge cases that have to get... Well, I do think there is some, you know, we should look at... Dead people are voting now anyway, but... Well, there was like, what was it, like a couple dozen people were found in one particular jurisdiction, but I don't want to make it seem like millions of... I'm saying... Well, there was an old joke in Philadelphia, which is notoriously shady politically, and there was a long-standing Republican on his deathbed, and his best friend is this Democratic operative, and the guy says, you know, well, at least as he's dying, at least I never voted Democrat.

00:39:59.000 And his friend says, don't worry, you will.

00:40:01.000 That's terrible.

00:40:03.000 Yeah, but I heard that joke like 25 years ago.

00:40:06.000 I think there is some promise with crypto in terms of voting, but I do think we can't overlook the fact that, let's say New Hampshire does, because they want to put this thing on the ballot.

00:40:18.000 New Hampshire wants to see it.

00:40:20.000 And in 2022 people will be able to check off, yep, we want to secede.

00:40:23.000 Now apparently a bunch of establishment people are like, no, it's bad, we don't want to do this.

00:40:26.000 Let's say they do.

00:40:27.000 They don't got to worry about funding.

00:40:29.000 They don't got to worry about being cut off.

00:40:30.000 They don't got to worry about the federal government being like, we sacrifice blood and treasure for your admittance to the union and we will not let you leave.

00:40:35.000 They'll be like, what are you gonna do about it?

00:40:38.000 We get our funding through decentralized internet, you know, networks.

00:40:41.000 We fund each other and people in New Hampshire are armed to the teeth.

00:40:44.000 So, I mean, what would really happen in circumstance?

00:40:46.000 Would the Feds storm in, the National Guard, the Army, and try and shut the state down and usurp civilian authority?

00:40:52.000 They would fight for I-95.

00:40:54.000 I-95 runs through Vermont and it connects Maine and what's the one right south of there?

00:40:59.000 South of Maine?

00:41:00.000 Maine and Massachusetts.

00:41:01.000 They would sanction and shut off supply lines?

00:41:03.000 They would block off their port land.

00:41:05.000 The federal government would try to take I-95 back and shut the damper off from the coast.

00:41:09.000 How would they take the coast?

00:41:11.000 You think?

00:41:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:13.000 If someone tried to secede from the U.S., they'd bring up the entire military force to stop it.

00:41:17.000 OK, now I really want to see this.

00:41:19.000 I'm not convinced.

00:41:20.000 What else can you do if someone tries to leave your union?

00:41:22.000 I mean, you have to as a governor.

00:41:23.000 Look at Brexit.

00:41:24.000 Yeah, they didn't do it.

00:41:25.000 They couldn't do anything about it.

00:41:26.000 That was Europe. 0.57

00:41:27.000 But still, we're at a point where even Scotland, if Scotland really did vote for independence, what can they do?

00:41:34.000 Are we gonna see a whole nother campaign to go claim Scotland for the crown?

00:41:37.000 The only reason I think... I think they're working on that, right?

00:41:40.000 So my point is, we are beyond the era of violence, to a certain extent.

00:41:46.000 What I mean is, people will not tolerate Conflict.

00:41:51.000 And so if New Hampshire says, here's our list of grievances, here's the problem, and then images start emerging of like New Hampshire residents being beaten and dragged, the rest of the country would be like, stop, stop, what are you doing?

00:42:04.000 This is bad.

00:42:04.000 We don't care about New Hampshire.

00:42:06.000 The federal government would freak out, but people in Idaho are going to be like, whoa.

00:42:11.000 I'll tell you this, if people in New Hampshire really did vote to secede, and it was like, boom, there it is, we have people mentioning in Super Chat that they have it in their constitution that they can, then if the federal government moves in, a bunch of other states are gonna file lawsuits, they're gonna make declarations.

00:42:28.000 Basically what happened in the original Civil War, the original, the first one in the United States.

00:42:31.000 The original, I like that.

00:42:33.000 Several states seceded from the Union.

00:42:35.000 The Union Union soldiers were at Fort Sumter.

00:42:38.000 And when conflict started, I think it was seven more states that went, whoa, we're out.

00:42:44.000 We're done.

00:42:45.000 The moment you started attacking states.

00:42:48.000 Yeah, I see I-95 is Fort Sumter.

00:42:50.000 If they try and block the road from Massachusetts to Maine by taking it to a new country, then the government would try and take it back.

00:42:56.000 And that would be like a Fort Sumter moment.

00:42:57.000 There's another thing, too, which is southern New Hampshire is mostly just a bedroom community for Boston.

00:43:03.000 So a lot of people who live in that little southern New Hampshire area that borders on Massachusetts work in Boston or work in Massachusetts.

00:43:12.000 And I don't think they want to get cut off from their jobs.

00:43:15.000 I don't think they want to lose their jobs because they can't get across the border if there's some sort of issue.

00:43:19.000 I wonder what that would be like.

00:43:21.000 Let me say, I'm not a historian to tell you about the Soviet Union or anything like that, but they lasted, I think, 69 years and then collapsed.

00:43:27.000 They broke apart.

00:43:29.000 The United States, we got like 250, a little bit more than that.

00:43:32.000 It's possible that we suffer a similar dissolution.

00:43:37.000 When I'm thinking of network states, I was visualizing like a way for us to vote across a network for things that aren't local.

00:43:43.000 Because localization has changed now.

00:43:45.000 You can have a conversation with anyone anywhere.

00:43:47.000 It doesn't matter.

00:43:48.000 And so that we would have a system of voting where I could vote alongside someone in North Dakota for something that goes on in Texas.

00:43:57.000 But then if the power goes out, we default back to this local system.

00:44:01.000 Or we could have both those systems in parallel.

00:44:03.000 Because the United States is changing and it will...

00:44:07.000 Are you thinking of something more along the lines of a completely direct democracy where everybody votes on everything?

00:44:14.000 No, not necessarily.

00:44:14.000 That'd be terrible.

00:44:16.000 You could still have a representation if you wanted.

00:44:18.000 But more of an interconnected system of voting that isn't based on where you live.

00:44:22.000 It's based on what you do.

00:44:24.000 And so the people that do certain things could vote on that thing.

00:44:27.000 You know what the problem is?

00:44:30.000 The system of government that we have is beyond brilliant.

00:44:34.000 I reflect on the U.S.

00:44:35.000 government, I'm just like, man, did these dudes work it out.

00:44:37.000 So, you look at, the reason we vote the way we do, we have districts, we've got counties, is that we want to protect, say there's a small town that's got a water reservoir, and the people all move there and they share and they bask in this water and they protect it.

00:44:53.000 And then a neighboring county says, we want it.

00:44:55.000 We want to vote to take it.

00:44:57.000 So we actually have a weighted vote system with the Electoral College to grant some protection, some defense.

00:45:03.000 The United States has the ability of minority rule. 0.56

00:45:07.000 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch.

00:45:10.000 A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

00:45:12.000 So that's really, really important.

00:45:14.000 The problem is, We've become a completely nationalized information economy.

00:45:20.000 So where it used to be that your local news outlet had your city that you would learn about, and they still exist, for sure, now people are increasingly getting their news from national sources.

00:45:31.000 There was a joke, I think it was, I think it was 30 Rock actually, because I've been watching it, where they were like, and now back to national radio, that doesn't make sense for you because we're, it's hot out there, or maybe it's not.

00:45:43.000 Maybe it's cold.

00:45:44.000 Could be.

00:45:45.000 And so what happens then is people vote based on these overtly national issues.

00:45:51.000 So when you talk about, you've talked to Ian before.

00:45:55.000 Ian, you've talked before about direct democracy in a republic system, meaning I think what you mean is we still have the jurisdictions, we still have a defense for minority, you know, smaller, less populated areas to have their votes heard.

00:46:10.000 But instead of sending a representative, they just issue a county yes or no, as opposed to having a rep go do it.

00:46:15.000 A direct republic.

00:46:16.000 The problem with that is, which is interesting, is that these people aren't paying attention to local issues anymore.

00:46:21.000 So when Nestle comes in and starts guzzling up all their water and destroying it, they don't know about it.

00:46:25.000 So then when there's a vote put up where it's like, should Nestle be allowed to take water from reservoirs?

00:46:30.000 They go, sure, why not?

00:46:32.000 And then it's like, oh wait, that's our water.

00:46:34.000 I didn't know that because we don't pay attention locally anymore.

00:46:38.000 So that's, regardless of whether they use your system or anything else, that is one of the key problems right now.

00:46:43.000 Like AOC would not have gotten elected or reelected were it not for the fact that she's got donors all over the country in small pockets funneling money into her district, which she's supposed to represent, but she represents the interests of a mass of Twitter socialists. 1.00

00:46:59.000 Yes, that's right.

00:47:00.000 I don't really see her representing much of the Bronx.

00:47:03.000 No, I mean, menstruators? 1.00

00:47:05.000 I tell you this, go to... The birthing people of the Bronx. 1.00

00:47:08.000 Right, she said birthing people, right?

00:47:11.000 Go into the Bronx, go up to a Latina mom and ask her, as a birthing person, how she feels about gang violence, and she'll be like, what?

00:47:20.000 She might laugh.

00:47:21.000 Depends on how you say it, but yeah.

00:47:22.000 I think she'll say, what?

00:47:25.000 Okay?

00:47:25.000 And you'll be like, birthing person!

00:47:27.000 You know, AOC is a Congress birthing person. 0.53

00:47:31.000 No one talks like that, and she's not representing the people of her district.

00:47:34.000 The problem is, these people don't know or don't care, and they vote for it.

00:47:37.000 Like Nancy Pelosi said, people would vote for this glass of water if you put a D on it.

00:47:44.000 That's what she said about her district and AOC's. 0.87

00:47:48.000 You put a D on a glass of water and people will elect it.

00:47:50.000 The uninformed voting.

00:47:52.000 How do you solve that?

00:47:52.000 Now, that's another conversation.

00:47:54.000 Well, the the thing about the uninformed voting is we've completely crippled, crippled our educational system.

00:48:01.000 So it's not like people are learning anything in schools at this point.

00:48:05.000 We have uninformed voters, I think, by design.

00:48:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:48:10.000 Schools are just corruption factories.

00:48:11.000 I think that's part of it.

00:48:13.000 Let me let me tell you where we're at, my friends.

00:48:15.000 We got the story I want to pull up.

00:48:17.000 Quote, we need to stiffen our spines and lean in to keeping people safe and healthy.

00:48:24.000 Governor Newsom says his recall success proves Democrats need to get tougher with COVID restrictions so there can be peace.

00:48:34.000 They're gonna give us these restrictions forever.

00:48:36.000 The attempt on my governorship has left me scarred and deformed.

00:48:39.000 was a since the recall failed Gavin Newsom stood up before the state legislature in California and

00:48:46.000 says the attempt on my governorship has left me scarred and deformed and I will reform California

00:48:52.000 into the first you know state state state empire. It's just not the government's responsibility to

00:48:58.000 That's not their job.

00:49:00.000 That's not what they've been tasked to do by the voters.

00:49:03.000 That's not what they were tasked to do by the Founding Fathers, who all managed to find themselves in the same place at the exact right time.

00:49:10.000 But here's the issue.

00:49:11.000 They tried to recall Newsom, and a bunch of conservatives said he's going to now punish the people of California with harsher lockdowns, and he's doing it.

00:49:19.000 And he's going to.

00:49:20.000 I mean, right after the election, that's when LA put in place their Vax Pass rules.

00:49:26.000 They waited till right after the election.

00:49:28.000 I gotta be honest, I really do think that, like, Newsom was sitting in his office like this, you know, looking at the TV, and then when CNN was like, we call—you know, Wolf Blitzer comes on, it looks like a landslide victory for Newsom, he went, mwahahaha!

00:49:41.000 Yes.

00:49:42.000 Mwahahaha!

00:49:44.000 Mwahaha!

00:49:45.000 That's how I imagine the guy.

00:49:46.000 That's a really good evil villain laugh.

00:49:48.000 I was just trying to imitate Dr. Evil.

00:49:51.000 Yeah, that's what he did.

00:49:53.000 And then everyone around him is like, haha!

00:49:55.000 And they're laughing.

00:49:56.000 That's how I imagine it.

00:49:57.000 Because now he's like, you know, just imagine Gavin Newsom looking over, who's the Lieutenant Governor?

00:50:01.000 And he's like, can we put more lockdowns on Los Angeles?

00:50:05.000 Let's punish the people there. 0.99

00:50:06.000 Let's make them really hurt. 1.00

00:50:08.000 That would be fun.

00:50:08.000 I think that's what de Blasio is doing.

00:50:10.000 I think he's intentionally punishing New York City.

00:50:13.000 Did they ever get the sand out of the skate park?

00:50:16.000 They did.

00:50:17.000 Yeah, that was cool.

00:50:18.000 I'm surprised skateboarders didn't show up with leaf blowers and start blowing it out.

00:50:21.000 But they did go there and sweep.

00:50:22.000 I feel like vacuum would be more effective.

00:50:25.000 But isn't it, how crazy is it that people still want to live in these places? 0.99

00:50:29.000 I guess the issue is, a dumb population is an easily controlled population. 0.97

00:50:34.000 Yeah, I don't know why anyone would willingly move to New York at this point, or California, or really any of these places. 0.99

00:50:39.000 Or Illinois.

00:50:40.000 I was talking to a family member, my family's in Chicago, and they said it's miserable, it's awful, it's worse than it's ever been.

00:50:48.000 Is it the crime?

00:50:50.000 No, no, it's the lockdowns.

00:50:51.000 There's lockdowns in Chicago?

00:50:53.000 Yeah, so I don't know exactly what's going on, but I have family in the suburbs and they're like, everyone's like, you can't go anywhere without a mask.

00:51:01.000 They've got mandates popping up all over the place. 1.00

00:51:03.000 The schools are freaking out.

00:51:05.000 It's like authoritarian nightmare. 1.00

00:51:07.000 In Brooklyn, it's back to everybody walking around with masks on outside, like fools. 0.97

00:51:13.000 And I'm just walking around like a normal person without my mask on. 0.95

00:51:16.000 Because why?

00:51:17.000 Because I was, I've done the vaccination.

00:51:20.000 I've done the thing that they said.

00:51:22.000 And it's just, it's never enough.

00:51:23.000 It's never going to be enough.

00:51:25.000 Let's talk about Two Americas.

00:51:26.000 There's two Americas right now. 0.85

00:51:28.000 In New York, people walk around outside wearing masks.

00:51:31.000 In West Virginia, people walk around outside wearing their AR-15s.

00:51:35.000 Which one would you want to live in?

00:51:36.000 No, I mean this seriously, though.

00:51:37.000 Obviously, not everybody in West Virginia is walking around with, like, a rifle, and they're, like, looking around.

00:51:41.000 But there are people who do... We went to... We were driving through Virginia.

00:51:45.000 And Virginia's not a good example, but we're on our way to central West Virginia, and there's people at restaurants, and they're strapped.

00:51:51.000 They got their guns and stuff.

00:51:52.000 And so you think about the two different Americas.

00:51:54.000 The people in New York would probably scream and freak out.

00:51:57.000 Oh, they would freak out.

00:51:58.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 They would freak out.

00:51:59.000 Like, there's that photo of a guy who's got a bazooka.

00:52:01.000 You're not allowed to, like, carry guns in New York.

00:52:03.000 You're not allowed to have concealed.

00:52:04.000 You're not allowed to carry openly.

00:52:06.000 Well, unless you're an agent of the state, which they like.

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 The cops are allowed to.

00:52:12.000 When I'm in, you know, people have asked me, like, if I was in West Virginia and I saw a guy walking around with, like, a bunch of guns and, like, an AR-15 and, like, a shotgun, would you, like, run?

00:52:21.000 What would you do?

00:52:22.000 And I'd be like, I probably wouldn't think anything at all.

00:52:26.000 I wouldn't.

00:52:27.000 I'm like, that guy's got guns.

00:52:29.000 Now, if he had, like, carrying a ton of guns, I would especially not worry.

00:52:33.000 You know why?

00:52:34.000 He's not going to be able to move around.

00:52:36.000 So like you see someone with a gun, I'm like, I see people driving cars all the time.

00:52:39.000 I never expect a car to veer off the road and slam into me.

00:52:41.000 I don't expect a person to pull out a gun and shoot at me.

00:52:44.000 I always expect the car to veer off the road and get me.

00:52:47.000 No, that's New York, I guess, right?

00:52:49.000 No, I mean, even just driving.

00:52:50.000 I've only had my license for literally a year.

00:52:55.000 But yeah, when I drive around, I think like, it would be so easy to kill me right now.

00:52:59.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:52:59.000 People can just go.

00:53:00.000 When I was a kid, I'd be like, what if everyone in the world wanted to all of a sudden just wanted to kill me?

00:53:04.000 How long could I survive?

00:53:07.000 Five seconds, like five seconds.

00:53:08.000 No, we're so vulnerable.

00:53:10.000 We're incredibly vulnerable creatures.

00:53:12.000 That's why we need exosuits, like Gundams. 0.93

00:53:16.000 And that's what we should do.

00:53:17.000 All of the profits from TimCastMedia will be funneled into an R&D project for building the first mobile suit Gundam.

00:53:24.000 And then when the Antifa shows up to my house, I'll be like, haha, fly off into space.

00:53:28.000 What it really means is that we have to accept risk as a component of existence.

00:53:34.000 We need to be relatively fearless in the face of that.

00:53:37.000 We need to know that we're going to die, that we can't just be protected all of the time.

00:53:41.000 We need to accept that, we need to revel in it, and we need to step out our front doors willingly and accept all of that.

00:53:49.000 You know, accept that we're not safe.

00:53:50.000 And that it's fine.

00:53:51.000 It's fine to not be safe.

00:53:53.000 It's good to take risks.

00:53:54.000 If we don't take risks, then we have no reward.

00:53:56.000 But this is, the issue is that, of course we know that, of course the people watching know this, but the cult doesn't care.

00:54:01.000 No.

00:54:02.000 Like, they want to win. 0.79

00:54:03.000 They want to crush you.

00:54:04.000 It's fun.

00:54:05.000 But look at what, look at what they want.

00:54:06.000 They want to go to school for, they want to have secondary and whatever education for free.

00:54:12.000 If they've paid for it, they want it too.

00:54:14.000 They want that money back or they want to not have to pay for it. They want rent to be fully covered

00:54:19.000 They want the government to pay out uh money

00:54:23.000 Endlessly if you don't have a job or if you just don't want to get a job or whatever

00:54:27.000 They want to require businesses to pay certain wages um, you know higher than the current minimum wage they want

00:54:34.000 to do all of these things in order to Control society in order to regulate how everybody is to

00:54:40.000 live their lives And there's no room to I mean where are the artists going

00:54:45.000 to come from where are the entrepreneurs going to come from?

00:54:47.000 Where are the explorers going to come from the left has completely forgotten that in our hearts. We are a race of

00:54:54.000 explorers The left is a picasso painting

00:54:57.000 And the right is like an ikea instruction If what you're saying is we have no conservative culture, you are correct.

00:55:05.000 What I mean is, the right is like very straightforward and here's what we believe, here's why we believe it, here's what we want, here's what we're gonna do, and then they kind of just like, it's not used.

00:55:17.000 It's tossed to the side and then someone tries jamming the thing together without actually... And crappy materials.

00:55:21.000 And yes, and the left is a Picasso painting where you're like, I think that's a person?

00:55:26.000 Your policies are a mishmash that come together and it's not a readable document.

00:55:30.000 So I love the easiest example to understand why a lot of leftist policies make no sense.

00:55:36.000 We'll use the Green New Deal. 0.98

00:55:37.000 When they started talking about a Green New Deal, I was like, ooh.

00:55:40.000 Oh, I like how this sounds.

00:55:42.000 Like, we'll allocate government funding from, like, war R&D into, like, renewable energies?

00:55:42.000 What are you saying?

00:55:49.000 Oh, what if they start doing infrastructure projects to reduce our dependence on foreign energy and things like that and create maybe fusion ignition?

00:55:49.000 Maybe.

00:56:01.000 A Green New Deal sounds pretty good.

00:56:03.000 A major jobs project that works us towards energy independence.

00:56:06.000 That'll make us more, that'll improve the economy.

00:56:09.000 And then AOC comes out and goes, Free college and free healthcare, and if you're not white, we'll give it to you first. 0.99

00:56:15.000 And I'm like, that's not a Green New Deal at all. 0.60

00:56:19.000 Has anyone proposed a Green New Deal like you just said?

00:56:22.000 Why?

00:56:22.000 No.

00:56:23.000 Okay, well, to be fair, probably.

00:56:27.000 But AOC's Green New Deal was like, and you'll get free college and people who aren't white will get reparations or something like that. 0.53

00:56:34.000 I don't think she actually said reparations, but it was like, identitarian, free college.

00:56:40.000 Then you had on her website saying like, we need to stop air travel and farting cows. 0.99

00:56:44.000 And I'm not exaggerating, literally said farting cows.

00:56:46.000 And I'm like, dude, I made a video where I was like, a Green New Deal sounds great because we've been nation building in other countries for so long.

00:56:53.000 We talked about it here.

00:56:54.000 We were like, what if we did nation building in our own country?

00:56:56.000 That would be actually kind of cool.

00:56:58.000 A Green New Deal, right? 0.88

00:56:59.000 Instead, what we get from the progressives is this mishmash of social justice trash that has nothing to do with the environment. 0.65

00:57:04.000 But we also don't... Go ahead. 0.93

00:57:06.000 No, go ahead.

00:57:07.000 We don't get enough from... Like we said, there hasn't been a counter-proposal that is obvious enough. 1.00

00:57:13.000 The Republicans are trash. 1.00

00:57:14.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:57:15.000 The Republicans are like... The Democrats go, we would like to infringe upon your right to keep and bear arms.

00:57:21.000 And the Republicans just are like...

00:57:24.000 No, don't.

00:57:27.000 And then one by one, more and more laws come in.

00:57:30.000 And then you'll get these Republicans who are like, I don't think it's a good bill.

00:57:35.000 And we shouldn't we shouldn't pass a law restricting infringing the rights to keep and bear arms.

00:57:39.000 And then their aid will lean over and go, the New York Times just called you Are you a Nazi?

00:57:43.000 I always wanted to ban guns.

00:57:45.000 I was the first one who wanted to do it.

00:57:47.000 And so, step by step, our rights are being eroded, particularly the Second Amendment.

00:57:53.000 And Republicans don't come out and say, I would like to repeal the NFA.

00:57:57.000 Like, where is the Republican?

00:57:59.000 Literally, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert.

00:58:00.000 Lauren Boebert, can you please propose repealing the NFA?

00:58:02.000 Why won't even Lauren Boebert do that? 1.00

00:58:04.000 She's like the pro-est gun Republican. 0.98

00:58:08.000 Maybe she has, maybe I'm wrong.

00:58:09.000 But I certainly think they should come out and be like, NFA, gone.

00:58:12.000 I think a lot of this comes down to there not being any conservative culture.

00:58:15.000 I mean, these values that you're talking about, you know, and I think freedom of speech is actually well under attack as well, but it's being attacked more from the corporate side, fully backed by the federal government.

00:58:29.000 But we don't have a conservative culture movement that shows these values, that gives voice to these concerns in a way that shows up every day on people's, you know, TikTok streams or TV shows or movies or in books or anywhere, you know?

00:58:48.000 We just don't see it.

00:58:49.000 I was listening to Jack Posobiec has a new podcast and he was talking about his children's book.

00:58:57.000 Which is like an anti-communist book for kids.

00:59:01.000 We're at the point where we need anti-communist books for kids.

00:59:05.000 That's right!

00:59:06.000 What is this, you know?

00:59:08.000 And I think a lot of this has to do with the failure of the conservative movement to provide entertainment options or anything that people want to consume.

00:59:19.000 I think people are correct.

00:59:21.000 I mean, I'm personally allergic to identifying left or right in the first place.

00:59:25.000 I just I can't make myself do it.

00:59:27.000 So and I think that that's quite common with the youth.

00:59:30.000 So you know, I agree with what you're saying.

00:59:33.000 But at the same time, I feel like the labels are just dead.

00:59:37.000 Well, no, no, no, let's be real.

00:59:39.000 I mean, All the forms are known.

00:59:41.000 Left and right are... They used to mean... They sort of meant something.

00:59:46.000 It was the French.

00:59:46.000 The French was from French Parliament.

00:59:48.000 People sat on the left and the people sat on the right.

00:59:50.000 It's completely meaningless today.

00:59:51.000 It's neat.

00:59:51.000 From the revolutionaries.

00:59:52.000 Yeah, the right were reactionaries opposing.

00:59:55.000 They didn't want to have a revolution.

00:59:59.000 It's tribal signifiers at this point.

01:00:01.000 If you are in favor of the democratic establishment, you are typically the left.

01:00:05.000 If you are in opposition to the establishment politics, which includes neocons, republicans, never-Trumpers, then you are on the right.

01:00:11.000 Whether you believe in right-wing politics or not, it's meaningless.

01:00:13.000 So basically, I can be like, I'm pro-choice.

01:00:17.000 I would like universal healthcare.

01:00:18.000 And they're like, Tim's right wing.

01:00:20.000 And I'm like, tell me which politician I would vote for in the Republican Party, if that's the case.

01:00:23.000 Because I was like, Chelsea Gabbard and Andrew Yang seem alright.

01:00:26.000 And then, you know, I have my criticisms of them as well.

01:00:30.000 I would vote for Rand Paul, because he seems to be like the only principled—well, I'm sorry, that's not fair.

01:00:35.000 Thomas Massey's pretty awesome, too.

01:00:36.000 But there's, like, very few actually principled people in government at all.

01:00:40.000 And then even when I do look at people like Ted Cruz or Hawley, I'm like, I just don't agree outside of the Liberty stuff.

01:00:46.000 So, politically homeless, I guess?

01:00:49.000 But it doesn't matter.

01:00:50.000 If you believe in freedom, that's the right.

01:00:53.000 Because you'll see these people— Yeah, freedom is political.

01:00:56.000 Absolutely.

01:00:56.000 What was the New York Times headline?

01:00:58.000 I don't know which one.

01:00:59.000 They were saying, like, the right-wing freedom chanting.

01:01:03.000 Remember?

01:01:04.000 Freedom chanting?

01:01:05.000 In Cuba, they were chanting anti-government.

01:01:09.000 And then the White House was like, they just want more vaccines.

01:01:13.000 That's what they're looking for.

01:01:15.000 Where is anybody on the actual left to say mandating vaccines is wrong?

01:01:19.000 There have been some Black Lives Matter protesters saying vaccine mandates are wrong.

01:01:23.000 Legit.

01:01:24.000 Weren't there some outside the CDC in Atlanta today, backing Nicki Minaj?

01:01:26.000 I don't know if they were Black Lives Matter, though.

01:01:28.000 Oh, were they not?

01:01:29.000 Yeah, I don't know, but it was a bunch of young black people who were protesting, saying Nicki Minaj was correct, Fauci's lying.

01:01:36.000 So what ends up happening is, you do have your overarching conservative ink, And then you have establishment left, which includes the faux-progressives, these big YouTube channels and streamers who claim to be on the left, but then, like, buy themselves extravagant houses, or try to union-bust in their own companies.

01:01:55.000 So, left and right.

01:01:58.000 You know, when someone says something, something, because I'm on the right, Jack said it a couple times last night, I didn't say anything about it, but when they do that, I'm, here's my label, they've lost, they've fallen in the swamp and they've sunk and they've died.

01:02:10.000 You cannot label yourself and get through this.

01:02:12.000 This is not a political... Alright, cult or not cult.

01:02:16.000 We'll do that.

01:02:17.000 Cult or not cult.

01:02:18.000 And then you've got to define the cult too.

01:02:20.000 Yeah, so like, do you challenge narratives?

01:02:24.000 Who was it?

01:02:24.000 Was it Mark Twain?

01:02:25.000 That if you find yourself in the majority, you should... Marcus Aurelius.

01:02:28.000 Marcus Aurelius said that!

01:02:29.000 That's an old one.

01:02:31.000 You should question what you're thinking if you find yourself in line with the majority.

01:02:35.000 Yeah, there are some things that I'm like, I believe this and I will stand by it.

01:02:40.000 And that means I'm willing to criticize high-profile individuals who might, you know, be friends of mine or might have, you know, certain access that I would benefit from.

01:02:50.000 But I'm not going to... Jim Brewer, best example.

01:02:53.000 When he cancelled his shows over the vaccine mandate, he was like, I'm not going to be beholden to this system of money, you know, to do something I don't believe in.

01:03:00.000 And I'm like, right on, Jim Brewer.

01:03:02.000 Yeah, I respect that.

01:03:02.000 Rad dude.

01:03:03.000 Rad, rad dude.

01:03:04.000 Well this is why language matters so much and like you know Huxley and Orwell were obsessed with it and it's just like we have to be specific in the language because obviously conservatism is a great principle.

01:03:13.000 Liberty, liberalism should be a great principle.

01:03:19.000 I know they don't mean anything but I'm just saying using them is so limiting and the language is being hijacked.

01:03:25.000 That's what's happening.

01:03:26.000 So we have to be specific in the language that we're using.

01:03:29.000 Well, yeah, I mean, it's interesting, too, that even in our cultural conversations, we are adhering to a two party system.

01:03:38.000 Well, I mean, we I think the Mises Caucus guys are legit.

01:03:42.000 And we've had Dave Smith here many, many times because they're they're like the best we've got at this point.

01:03:47.000 And like they're pro-life.

01:03:49.000 I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but I agree with him on enough.

01:03:52.000 At least we can identify a lot of the problems.

01:03:54.000 And I'm like, if the Republicans won't even identify the problems, and the establishment Democrats are reveling in the problems, I'll take the Mises Caucus guys who are at least pointing to it. 0.96

01:04:04.000 That's bad.

01:04:04.000 Here's our plan.

01:04:05.000 I'm like, I don't know if your plan is going to work, but at least you're going to put the... It's like the Republicans and the Democrats are ignoring the fire, or the Democrats are lighting the fire, and the Libertarians are like, we got a plan to put it out.

01:04:15.000 And I'm like, I don't care what your plan is.

01:04:16.000 Do it, dude.

01:04:17.000 That's why we need to do things outside of politics.

01:04:19.000 Politics should really not be the top thing that we're dealing with.

01:04:23.000 I think politics is irrelevant.

01:04:24.000 We should be building technology.

01:04:26.000 We should be making art.

01:04:27.000 Why are we not out there making more art?

01:04:29.000 Yes, exactly.

01:04:31.000 I miss making art.

01:04:33.000 I used to do that all the time.

01:04:34.000 You're doing it right now.

01:04:34.000 You were just saying this about conservatives, though.

01:04:37.000 Actually, you both kind of made a similar point.

01:04:39.000 You said, where's the conservative rebuttal or offer?

01:04:43.000 Right.

01:04:43.000 And art also doesn't need to be about any of those things.

01:04:44.000 said conservatives aren't building.

01:04:46.000 They're not making art and culture to inspire or whatever.

01:04:48.000 Right.

01:04:48.000 That's it.

01:04:49.000 Like the left has.

01:04:51.000 I'll tell you.

01:04:52.000 And art also doesn't need to be about any of those things.

01:04:55.000 I mean your values come through in the art that you create because you are a

01:04:59.000 principled individual who believes in things and expresses with your heart.

01:05:03.000 That's a lot of what we're trying to do with the new shows we're launching.

01:05:06.000 It's not to make political content to convince anybody of any ideas, but it's to tell stories that will inspire and our values are conveyed throughout.

01:05:13.000 I want to help teach people how to cook.

01:05:15.000 I actually want to learn how to cook while I'm at it.

01:05:17.000 Wait, you're really doing a cooking show?

01:05:19.000 Binging with Ian.

01:05:19.000 Yeah, a couple days ago.

01:05:21.000 Another one went up yesterday.

01:05:21.000 I said, you want to avoid the sodium chloride and use salt.

01:05:24.000 I meant sodium benzoate.

01:05:25.000 Sodium chloride is salt.

01:05:28.000 Thank you, YouTube.

01:05:30.000 So check it out.

01:05:30.000 I love to cook.

01:05:31.000 Me too.

01:05:32.000 Join my cooking show.

01:05:34.000 I do think that there's a possibility of a polar shift in culture that prevents a total collapse.

01:05:44.000 I still think it's most likely there is a collapse, but what I'm getting at is, when it comes to the creation of culture, the establishment is failing miserably, and it's getting worse and worse.

01:05:54.000 Since Gamergate and Comicsgate and all this stuff, it has continually just been rather bad in a lot of ways.

01:06:00.000 Now some stuff's shined through and been okay, A lot of stuff has been bad.

01:06:04.000 Like the new The Craft remake, which was actually like a sequel.

01:06:08.000 And it made literally no sense and it was just jamming in a bunch of woke plot points that I'm very confused by.

01:06:13.000 And I'm like, I don't understand.

01:06:15.000 Like they cast a spell to turn a guy gay. 0.80

01:06:17.000 A lot of that stuff is just unwatchable. 0.77

01:06:19.000 It's like watching those Christian productions. 0.75

01:06:22.000 We said this before.

01:06:22.000 Pure Flix.

01:06:23.000 Yeah, Pure Flix.

01:06:24.000 I don't know how to rag on Pure Flix.

01:06:25.000 I haven't seen it.

01:06:26.000 But it's like those low-grade, poorly-produced, conservative-bro, right Christian content that we used to make fun of. 0.60

01:06:34.000 I think even Seamus mentioned Bible Man and stuff.

01:06:37.000 And it's not inspiring.

01:06:39.000 Kids want to watch X-Men.

01:06:41.000 And now, you know what I love about X-Men is the allusions to civil rights, right?

01:06:46.000 Right.

01:06:47.000 But now the left is latching onto that and making X-Men, they're trying to make it, like, woke.

01:06:51.000 The comics have definitely gotten woke.

01:06:52.000 Yeah, they're doing, like, all Marvel-wokey stuff on Disney.

01:06:55.000 And its sales are going down.

01:06:58.000 All I really want is Star Trek.

01:07:01.000 Yeah, wasn't Discovery woke?

01:07:04.000 I didn't watch it.

01:07:06.000 No, I just watched DS9 again instead.

01:07:08.000 Because something was special about that era in Star Trek.

01:07:11.000 Yes, it was like what, 93 that launched?

01:07:14.000 Uh, 89.

01:07:16.000 The Next Generation, I think.

01:07:16.000 Next Generation was like 88.

01:07:18.000 Yeah.

01:07:19.000 And then DS9 was like, I think, 93.

01:07:20.000 Yeah, I think so. 0.57

01:07:22.000 And then it went into, like, the late 90s, and then they did Enterprise, and it was just... Enterprise was garbage.

01:07:27.000 Yeah.

01:07:27.000 I had so much promise, too.

01:07:29.000 The Great Story of Scott Bakula, one of my favorites.

01:07:32.000 I didn't want a sequel!

01:07:33.000 We just hit the Dominion War!

01:07:34.000 Come on! 0.61

01:07:36.000 And now we get these weird hokey pseudo sequels.

01:07:39.000 I'll tell you, Picard was pretty good.

01:07:41.000 I like Picard.

01:07:42.000 And you can do the social justice stuff right.

01:07:46.000 But the problem is they're not doing it right.

01:07:47.000 Look at the social justice stuff that they did on DS9 when Benjamin Sisko went back in time and was a...

01:07:55.000 Nerding out.

01:07:56.000 Yeah. Anyway, but they happened.

01:07:58.000 They did. They went back in time as San Francisco and he was a sci

01:08:01.000 fi writer.

01:08:02.000 And so he wrote a he wrote a story about a black

01:08:07.000 space captain in the future.

01:08:08.000 And the publishers of the magazine said, no, we can't 0.76

01:08:13.000 run this with a black space captain.

01:08:14.000 And they ended up deciding to run it.

01:08:16.000 But it was a dream that it was a black space captain, which, you know, there were so many layers in there.

01:08:23.000 And that character in the timeline ended up in a mental institution, scribbling his stories on the wall.

01:08:31.000 I mean, it actually it was transcendent.

01:08:33.000 It like transcended It was just perfect.

01:08:36.000 Deep Space Nine was fantastic.

01:08:38.000 Avery Brooks was killer.

01:08:40.000 We got recommended the episode, I think it's called In the Pale Moonlight, and it's where Sisko stages... I'm forgetting.

01:08:50.000 But basically he stages a conflict to force the Romulans to enter the war on the side of the Federation.

01:08:56.000 Yeah.

01:08:57.000 And it's like conspiracy, evil stuff.

01:09:01.000 That show was fantastic.

01:09:03.000 It was fantastic.

01:09:04.000 And he was such a complicated captain.

01:09:06.000 I look back at... I thought about this.

01:09:09.000 I'm like, Picard was good.

01:09:12.000 And let me just stress too, if you're not a Trekkie, don't worry.

01:09:15.000 I want to keep this at the surface level.

01:09:19.000 The new show that came out, Picard, we're doing a season.

01:09:20.000 I'm like, it's a good show.

01:09:22.000 But it was not profound.

01:09:23.000 It was not profound, not thought-provoking, it didn't inspire me to do anything.

01:09:27.000 It was like, it's really fun to see Riker and Picard hanging out.

01:09:30.000 But when you watch the original Star Trek, like, well, that, but mostly I think that I like the next generation better.

01:09:36.000 When you watch the next generation, it deals with the philosophical consequences of technological advancement and other societies advancement.

01:09:43.000 Stargate does that really, really well as well.

01:09:46.000 You told me to watch that.

01:09:46.000 I still have to watch that.

01:09:47.000 It's not the same, but it's similar.

01:09:49.000 And it's like we had these shows in the 90s that were like, here's a civilization that dealt with that, you know, instead of Inventing electricity.

01:09:58.000 They discovered, you know, plasma or something.

01:10:00.000 And then it's like, how did how did they develop?

01:10:02.000 What are their ideas?

01:10:03.000 There's that really, really, really great moment where Data asks Picard about terrorism.

01:10:09.000 And he says, something troubles me about, you know, these people and their conduct.

01:10:13.000 And it's You know, we say terrorism is bad, yet it seems their strategies are effective. 0.96

01:10:18.000 And often throughout history, we have seen these actions actually bring about political change.

01:10:23.000 And Picard is like, humans have been struggling with these questions for generations, and I do not subscribe to the belief that political power is derived from the barrel of a gun.

01:10:31.000 And I'm like, that was like, who are these writers who are just like thought-provoking philosophers?

01:10:37.000 You know what else I was thinking of?

01:10:39.000 When you hear about quotes from famous people like Ben Franklin, it's because only so many of his words could actually be translated through history.

01:10:47.000 Could actually be handed down.

01:10:48.000 Because he would write books and he would write things, but of all of the words the man said, probably .001% of his ideas have made it throughout history.

01:10:57.000 today you have these writers of these shows building culture and giving these profound ideas on like the make of a man when when when data is on when there's trial determined whether he's a sentient independent life form that's a great the people who wrote that are brilliant philosophers and we're not going to take their names and put the quotes down we're going to put Picard Data.

01:11:18.000 You know, I think about the value that TV and radio has given us as a species.

01:11:21.000 And it's so great because it's our ability to transmit information.

01:11:25.000 And like you said, to pass the knowledge down.

01:11:28.000 It's also created this danger where you see Hitler using the mass media to brainwash the people and like how the media today is kind of brainwashing.

01:11:35.000 So but I think that the value outweighs the danger so greatly.

01:11:39.000 So I imagine that that's a very, very good sign for our species.

01:11:43.000 Do you think it's a coincidence that the best memes came out of that time of Star Trek?

01:11:50.000 Like all the memes that came up on the internet are like from TNG?

01:11:52.000 Yeah, from that period.

01:11:54.000 It's not surprising.

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:55.000 You know what?

01:11:56.000 You mentioned the 90s, and I think the 90s, to a certain extent, were our reward for a difficult century.

01:12:03.000 There was so much prosperity.

01:12:05.000 I remember there just being... I was a kid, basically.

01:12:08.000 I mean, I was like in my...

01:12:10.000 late teens and in my 20s.

01:12:11.000 And there was just money everywhere.

01:12:13.000 I remember this.

01:12:14.000 I was hanging out with a bunch of visual artists.

01:12:16.000 Everyone was getting paid to do something ridiculous and instead was blowing it all. 0.64

01:12:22.000 It was the dinner and strippers and stuff. 0.82

01:12:24.000 We had a great time.

01:12:26.000 But yeah, that was like the reward.

01:12:27.000 It was a cultural reward.

01:12:29.000 There was art everywhere.

01:12:30.000 There was amazing music came out of that era.

01:12:33.000 We had an awful lot of equality.

01:12:35.000 We had an awful lot of Equality between the sexes.

01:12:40.000 Women could do whatever they wanted. 1.00

01:12:41.000 The internet emerged and then the dot-com just went too far.

01:12:45.000 Well, I think a lot of it too was, um, you know, September 11th, we had like a massive terrorist attack shortly thereafter.

01:12:53.000 And that kind of, that made everything crazy.

01:12:56.000 It was the cold war dividend, cold war ended.

01:12:58.000 And all of a sudden we were like, what do we do with all this money and all these resources and all these plans and all these troops.

01:13:04.000 We made a lot of art in the 90s.

01:13:06.000 There was really good visual art came out of that period.

01:13:08.000 But then China started to emerge as a greater power and then you had a bunch of problems here in the U.S.

01:13:14.000 like the repeal of Glass-Steagall and then the economic crisis and now China's getting more and more power and now perhaps one of the biggest issues is that we as a nation have no ability to stop China from taking over as the global superpower and global economic power China?

01:13:29.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:13:30.000 It's just like the U.S.

01:13:31.000 at this point is has become too feeble to fight back as a nation.

01:13:34.000 Yeah. But not as people.

01:13:35.000 We do.

01:13:37.000 I think with crypto and local governance, we can do it.

01:13:40.000 No, no. Yeah, that's great.

01:13:42.000 We'll have small pockets of independent, freedom loving people

01:13:44.000 who are tending to their chickens, which is fine.

01:13:47.000 But China will be dominating the culture. 0.97

01:13:50.000 I saw that too.

01:13:50.000 planet like the US did for so long, then they'll start putting out their ideas of why freedom

01:13:55.000 is bad.

01:13:56.000 And it's already happening.

01:13:57.000 We're already starting to adopt more of the Chinese communist style governance and political

01:14:01.000 control.

01:14:02.000 I just saw a story that the Chinese are going to start doing social credit on corporations

01:14:06.000 now.

01:14:07.000 Yes, that's correct.

01:14:08.000 I saw that too.

01:14:10.000 And they're also regulating content a lot more now, too.

01:14:14.000 That's a whole big thing.

01:14:15.000 They banned kids from playing video games for an hour a night or so.

01:14:18.000 Three hours a week.

01:14:20.000 But even though they banned Bitcoin mining in China, it's not going to stop the people of China from rapidly adopting it.

01:14:26.000 I mean, you can't just assume that there's, you know, monoculture in terms of the thought process of the citizens of China.

01:14:36.000 Crypto is still going to dominate.

01:14:37.000 That makes sense that, you know, the people are not homogenous in terms of their perspective, but they are showing themselves to be relatively squashable.

01:14:46.000 Hong Kong is not Hong Kong anymore.

01:14:49.000 You know, there's a genocide going on.

01:14:51.000 And Pelosi, I think from that same interview that you pulled up earlier, she was saying that, yes, China is committing genocide against the Uyghurs, but it's more important that we team up with them about climate change. 0.99

01:15:05.000 We're idiots for letting this kind of thing happen. 0.87

01:15:08.000 China also though had a long period of time while the West was engaging in the age of exploration and all of that where they were basically just isolationists. 0.99

01:15:19.000 The U.S.

01:15:20.000 I think should have a lot more ability to control its own destiny in terms of One thing Trump did was he tried to get more pharmaceutical production in the U.S., localized in the U.S., which I think obviously we should be doing.

01:15:39.000 Why are we, you know, for decades we let so many Asian countries basically be the factories of the U.S. 1.00

01:15:48.000 and the factories of U.S.

01:15:50.000 corporations and U.S.

01:15:51.000 commerce.

01:15:52.000 And there's no reason to keep doing that.

01:15:53.000 We got gutted.

01:15:55.000 I mean, except that Americans probably don't want to work any of these jobs, what with the free money being flooded out by the government.

01:16:02.000 It's going to be a cold splash of water in the face when Americans who do these fake jobs... I tell that story when I first went to Vice and saw how much people were getting paid and what they did for a living. 0.96

01:16:13.000 I was like, wow.

01:16:15.000 If working class people in this country could see inside New York media, there would be a revolution overnight. 0.89

01:16:23.000 Could you imagine working $15 an hour doing labor only to discover that someone's getting paid $50 an hour to like scour the internet for pictures of a celebrity and then they don't show up half the time?

01:16:34.000 Right.

01:16:34.000 They don't show up half the time.

01:16:35.000 And they don't got to go to work.

01:16:37.000 I'm not kidding.

01:16:38.000 The vice office would be like empty half the time.

01:16:40.000 And I'd be like, Oh, where is, you know, so-and-so in the back at home?

01:16:44.000 They'll just, they'll write something, I guess.

01:16:46.000 I can only imagine the conversations they have with the board directors of CNN when they're behind the scenes at MSNBC.

01:16:52.000 If we had access to that and we got to listen in on that, yeah, I think there would be a revolution overnight.

01:16:57.000 The issue I'm bringing up is that there are people who work hard every single day, and they come home with calloused hands, sweat pouring, you know, drenched in sweat, and they sit down and their back hurts, and they go to the doctor, and the doctor's like, Jim, you got a slipped disc.

01:17:09.000 And he's like, getting paid, you know, 40 grand a year doing this stuff, and it's like, his body is in pain.

01:17:17.000 Then there are guys who it's like, they finally got that promotion, they're working really, really hard, and they're older.

01:17:23.000 And then there's a 20 year old getting paid double their salary in New York to complain about you for voting for Donald Trump. 1.00

01:17:31.000 And they say, you're a moron. 1.00

01:17:33.000 You're a dumbass. 1.00

01:17:34.000 You're so stupid. 1.00

01:17:36.000 And that guy's breaking his back to build the infrastructure in this company. 1.00

01:17:39.000 Every one of these construction guys who was out there fixing the roads.

01:17:42.000 And to like bring you your stuff.

01:17:42.000 And to drive the trucks.

01:17:44.000 And then they say you're a maggot and a plague rat and they get double the money you make. 0.81

01:17:49.000 I find it still so shocking because it was it's what like the country's basically half and half at this point was like what 74 million people voted for Trump. 0.97

01:17:59.000 The other half kind of voted for the other guy.

01:18:01.000 Yeah.

01:18:01.000 Voted against Trump.

01:18:03.000 Voted against Trump.

01:18:04.000 That's basically what they did.

01:18:05.000 But then also the thing with the I think there's been a number of polls coming out recently showing that it's like 51 percent of Americans are in favor of vaccine mandates and 49 percent are not.

01:18:16.000 I know that that's one poll I saw.

01:18:18.000 So it's definitely like half and half, and one half of the country is telling the other half of the country that they're garbage, and that half of the country is the one doing all of the work.

01:18:28.000 So I want to talk to you about cancel culture and how it affects media companies, notably, That one of the sponsors for the Postmillennial, where you are the editor-in-chief, Surfshark, which is a VPN, I believe, right?

01:18:42.000 They got a... Some Antifa guy tweeted at them that Andy No was all these stupid things they lie about. 0.98

01:18:48.000 And Surfshark immediately was like, oh no! 1.00

01:18:52.000 Shocked emoji.

01:18:53.000 We're so sorry.

01:18:53.000 We'll immediately terminate our relationship with them.

01:18:56.000 That's right.

01:18:56.000 So I called them out immediately.

01:18:58.000 I'm like, dude.

01:18:59.000 And it was all lies against Andy.

01:19:01.000 None of it was true.

01:19:03.000 But here's the point I made.

01:19:04.000 This is really, really important.

01:19:06.000 Surfshark responded to me.

01:19:08.000 They said, hi, Timcast.

01:19:09.000 We're not supporting or dismissing anyone.

01:19:11.000 Our core goal is protecting people's digital privacy and security, and we just don't want to be involved in someone else's conflicts or ideological disagreements, which is a lie.

01:19:20.000 Surfshark, you're liars. 1.00

01:19:21.000 You're bad people. 0.99

01:19:22.000 Because when Antifa tweets at you, and then you say, you got it, buddy.

01:19:25.000 We'll sever ties with the business over your ideology, You're doing exactly that.

01:19:30.000 And now that you're getting backlash for it, you have the nerve to come out and be like, we're not doing it, we just don't want to be involved.

01:19:36.000 No.

01:19:37.000 Surfshark violated the privacy of the post-millennial and Andy Ngo by publicly tweeting they would terminate a business arrangement over accusations made online.

01:19:46.000 If they're willing to sacrifice or violate the privacy, look, if they wanted to sever, they could have privately called up and said, guys, we're not fans of this conflict, so we're not going to publicly call you out on anything, but we don't want to work with you anymore.

01:19:58.000 That would be private.

01:19:59.000 Instead, they publicly said, yeah, look at those guys.

01:20:02.000 They're bad guys.

01:20:02.000 We're not going to work with them.

01:20:04.000 So, that's me calling them out, but I'm curious because I still saw ads on the Postmillennial, and I was wondering if you had some more insight into this spineless company selling out their values out of fear from Antifa.

01:20:20.000 Yeah, it was actually pretty interesting and shocking.

01:20:22.000 So it was basically, you know, one tweet at this company saying that Andy is a violent person, which I don't know if you guys have ever met Andy, but he's like the furthest from a violent person that I've almost ever met.

01:20:38.000 And then they said that they weren't doing that.

01:20:41.000 They terminated our relationship with them.

01:20:43.000 But they said that or they actually did?

01:20:45.000 They're not working with us anymore.

01:20:47.000 Because I still saw like a week later there were still ads for it.

01:20:50.000 Yeah, it was lag.

01:20:51.000 Oh.

01:20:53.000 So this company...

01:20:57.000 Oh, and he deleted his tweets, by the way.

01:21:01.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 He tweeted lies.

01:21:03.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 Then they went, no problem.

01:21:05.000 He took it down.

01:21:07.000 But then also, oh, yeah.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, the ads came down a couple days late.

01:21:14.000 They were busy, apparently, I'm hearing.

01:21:19.000 But they wanted them removed.

01:21:20.000 But yeah, so we took the ads down and, you know, they basically gave legitimacy to these violent extremists who wanted to silence the media and silence the press.

01:21:34.000 And they actually, you know, they replied to customers too, and we have screenshots of this as well, because Andy reached out on Twitter and was like, hey, if you hear from them, And we have screenshots.

01:21:44.000 They told customers that Andy was, you know, violent and they weren't going to be working with us anymore because of Andy.

01:21:51.000 There are a lot of people on the right who said they've worked with Surfshark.

01:21:55.000 Yeah.

01:21:56.000 I mean, I think this is a horrible thing to do.

01:21:59.000 I think it's a horrible company.

01:22:00.000 I mean, that shows that they don't actually care.

01:22:02.000 Right.

01:22:03.000 They're only responding to PR issues.

01:22:06.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 Wow.

01:22:07.000 And it's really just this one person said this thing.

01:22:11.000 Oh yeah.

01:22:11.000 No, it's all nonsense.

01:22:12.000 I mean, so where do you, where do you guys see the sort of, oh, I'm only doing business with a certain type of political ideology going?

01:22:21.000 Like, do you think that it's going to move into like a polarized corporate system?

01:22:26.000 It's going to be, I mentioned this before, like parallel economies, but I think people need to boycott And tell all their friends and family to boycott.

01:22:35.000 And the way I see it is, if a company is willing to defame someone privately and publicly, then whatever it costs them in PR to run those ads, it should cost them 100 times from the power of the people to say, you're bad and we reject this, and then going out and telling everybody.

01:22:55.000 Because I'll tell you this.

01:22:57.000 People don't, you know, there's this old saying, I can't remember exactly, but it's like this advice you'll get in media, like a negative experience is 10 times worse, you know, or it's like a thousand times worse than a positive one.

01:23:08.000 A positive experience is expected.

01:23:10.000 A negative experience is infuriating.

01:23:13.000 So if someone goes into your restaurant and they order a cheesecake and it's a delicious cheesecake, they'll be like, wow, that's so good.

01:23:19.000 Well, of course it should be.

01:23:20.000 They probably won't give you a good review.

01:23:22.000 They won't share your restaurant. 0.83

01:23:24.000 They won't tell their friends about it.

01:23:26.000 But if you have a cheesecake and it, like, is gross, they'll tell everyone they know.

01:23:31.000 So if these companies want to play this game, where they're willing to step up, stand up, and shove themselves into an ideological conflict, and I'll mention this too, Andy is the editor-at-large.

01:23:41.000 He's the editor-at-large, yeah.

01:23:42.000 So to sever their business arrangement over one employee.

01:23:46.000 Right.

01:23:47.000 And to violate the privacy.

01:23:48.000 One editor.

01:23:48.000 That's the big thing.

01:23:49.000 We have a lot of editors, too.

01:23:50.000 Yeah, I mean, and we're keeping our legal options open because this was clearly defamation.

01:23:56.000 Yeah.

01:23:57.000 Defamation and libel.

01:23:59.000 And for every instance of it, is it another instance of libel for every person that they contacted?

01:24:03.000 Yeah, like every time they say it.

01:24:05.000 Every person they told lies about Andy causing damages?

01:24:10.000 Yeah.

01:24:10.000 And by saying that they're not getting involved, they are very clearly getting involved on the side of this guy who, you know, just has it in for Andy because Andy exposes Antifa all over the place and is very honest about it and works hard at that.

01:24:23.000 We got to get the post-millennial monetized with mines. 0.76

01:24:27.000 Bill's like, I'm not joking.

01:24:29.000 I'll make a business move.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:24:31.000 Actually, you told me the other day, you were like, hey, do your thing.

01:24:36.000 So I changed my password because of course I couldn't find anything.

01:24:39.000 And I found that somebody had given me tokens.

01:24:42.000 All right.

01:24:42.000 That's money.

01:24:43.000 So that was fun.

01:24:44.000 Money in the bank!

01:24:45.000 We need, you know, there was a period where I said, I was like, a few years ago, I'm like, oh, Hulu did something woke. 0.96

01:24:52.000 I'm not going to boycott because they said something dumb. 0.97

01:24:55.000 I'll come, you know, I'll tell them it's dumb. 0.98

01:24:57.000 I'm well past that point. 1.00

01:24:59.000 I'm like, if a company comes out and does something like this, which is substantially worse than just posting stupid, you know, woke nonsense. 1.00

01:25:09.000 If they actively defame people and enter the conflict, I say go nuclear. 1.00

01:25:15.000 Share it with your friends.

01:25:16.000 Share my tweets with everybody.

01:25:18.000 Tell everyone you know, anybody who has the service, no.

01:25:21.000 We're not going to work with you.

01:25:22.000 We're not going to buy from you.

01:25:24.000 Do you say the same thing for Amazon?

01:25:27.000 When Amazon bans people?

01:25:28.000 Yes.

01:25:29.000 All the time.

01:25:30.000 No, I know, but are you boycotting Amazon?

01:25:33.000 Uh, that's a tough one.

01:25:35.000 Half.

01:25:36.000 But you're right, it's a good point.

01:25:37.000 I actually started, there were some things that I was ordering on Amazon and I actually started ordering them from the company specifically.

01:25:43.000 I'm not going to say it because what if they say they hate me and then I can't order their stuff anymore.

01:25:47.000 But there's a, it's interesting what you were saying about the parallel economies because we switched, you know, we switched mostly from using YouTube for our podcasts and stuff at Postmillennial and now we're using Rumble for everything.

01:26:00.000 And it's, you know, just fine and we like them quite a bit.

01:26:03.000 It's a lot, you know...

01:26:07.000 This is what we're talking about culture, and like in terms of creating more culture, what is going to happen?

01:26:13.000 Are there going to be fully parallel economies with different services based on ideological perspectives?

01:26:20.000 Yes.

01:26:20.000 And if so, you know, where's the conservative Amazon?

01:26:24.000 Part of it too is that the non-left-wing side of things doesn't always do as great a job, you know?

01:26:32.000 They don't have all the graphic designers.

01:26:34.000 They don't have all the creatives.

01:26:37.000 So what's going to happen with that?

01:26:38.000 It is changing.

01:26:40.000 It's definitely changing.

01:26:41.000 And I think, yes, where's the conservative to launch an Amazon marketplace?

01:26:44.000 I would buy from that place.

01:26:46.000 Didn't Mike Lindell try doing something?

01:26:48.000 I feel like that's, again, you're going too far.

01:26:50.000 It's like, where's the apolitical?

01:26:52.000 Yeah.

01:26:53.000 launching the alternative, you know, because it's like when you hear where's the conservative

01:26:58.000 alter it's not always it's like don't just go to the other side, you know, it has to

01:27:01.000 be the one that is well hold on there for everybody.

01:27:04.000 What what I'm saying is where the conservative side is the side that allows you to sell Karl

01:27:09.000 Marx and Hitler. 0.79

01:27:11.000 The left side is a side that allows you to only sell Karl Marx.

01:27:13.000 And that used to be the left.

01:27:15.000 You could say conservative, or maybe it's an apolitical, free-speech-supporting... That's right-wing, bro!

01:27:22.000 But you're falling into the trap!

01:27:23.000 No, no, no, no.

01:27:24.000 Free speech and free religion are on the right-wing side at this point.

01:27:26.000 No, no, that stuff's beyond political parties.

01:27:28.000 It used to be!

01:27:30.000 It still is.

01:27:30.000 You can't have it if you're gonna divide this up, it can't happen.

01:27:33.000 You guys are naive and unwilling to accept the reality of what's happening.

01:27:36.000 If you're going to allow yourself to play their game that you already lost... Joe Rogan is called alt-right.

01:27:39.000 Joe Rogan is called alt-right.

01:27:40.000 Bill Maher is called alt-right.

01:27:42.000 But it's not— Joe Rogan is called far-right, and the dude's literally in favor of UBI.

01:27:46.000 It doesn't mean it's real. 0.99

01:27:47.000 Dumb people are using those terms. 0.78

01:27:49.000 Left and right don't mean anything, and never really did, other than, are you in favor of the revolution or opposed to it? 0.97

01:27:56.000 So yes, if you oppose the left's woke revolution, you are the right.

01:28:01.000 Republican and Democrat don't mean anything.

01:28:03.000 It's just a thing you tick.

01:28:04.000 It's no different.

01:28:06.000 Republican and Democrat refer to the parties.

01:28:08.000 You don't accept that you're right-wing.

01:28:09.000 You do not accept that you're right-wing.

01:28:11.000 I have repeatedly said, in terms of the culture war, I would be considered on the right. 0.89

01:28:14.000 You would be considered, but that doesn't mean that that's what you are.

01:28:18.000 Let me finish.

01:28:19.000 Michael Malice has described this as the new right, new right personalities, and his position is, ask someone this question, and I'll ask you.

01:28:27.000 Do you believe that some people are better than others?

01:28:29.000 Of course not.

01:28:30.000 You don't think so?

01:28:31.000 That's the left position.

01:28:33.000 The new right position is, of course, there.

01:28:36.000 Well, I sort of misinterpreted the question.

01:28:37.000 Well, it depends on what you mean by better.

01:28:39.000 Like, what does better mean?

01:28:40.000 That's your interpretation.

01:28:42.000 Is one human life more valuable than another?

01:28:44.000 I didn't say that.

01:28:45.000 Exactly.

01:28:46.000 So that's how I interpreted it.

01:28:47.000 Are some people more ethical than others?

01:28:49.000 Yes.

01:28:50.000 What Michael said is the left will opine and justify, and the right will simply say yes.

01:28:57.000 So here's the issue.

01:28:59.000 In terms of the political compass, my political ideology leans left in terms of cooperative, you know, I know right libertarians don't like the idea, but cooperative meaning non-transactional, more like I'll help you if you help me.

01:29:13.000 It doesn't really scale up all that well, so mostly I defer to positions of liberty.

01:29:17.000 However, in the culture war, I believe in free speech.

01:29:20.000 I believe in religious freedoms.

01:29:22.000 I believe in bodily autonomy.

01:29:24.000 Those things do not exist in any facet on the left.

01:29:27.000 Okay, so maybe that's too absolute.

01:29:29.000 Maybe there's some people on the left who are calling this out.

01:29:31.000 But look at AOC going to the Met Gala with her Tax the Rich dress, where a guy carries it for her while wearing a mask.

01:29:37.000 She is not... That's the hero of the progressive left.

01:29:41.000 Then you look at the libertarian socialist YouTubers and streamers who are celebrating rule by decree.

01:29:48.000 If you, when you come out and you're speaking colloquially in modern culture, the free speech, freedom of association, the right to read any book you want is considered right-wing.

01:30:03.000 Yeah, I don't disagree, but that, again, it's sort of adopting their paradigm to accept that.

01:30:10.000 What would you suggest we do instead?

01:30:13.000 Just erase those words from your lexicon first.

01:30:16.000 And say what?

01:30:17.000 I'm happy to say liberty.

01:30:18.000 Liberty is fine.

01:30:19.000 And if people are going to associate that with the right, that's their decision.

01:30:24.000 But, you know, liberty is not going to get taken away from the language.

01:30:28.000 Part of the problem, I think, is that we need to be able to communicate with one another, and so we need to share words, and those words need to have common definitions.

01:30:36.000 Do you not think that liberty is a more effective word than conservative?

01:30:40.000 I mean, I don't want to say libertarian because that has... Libertarian is its own political party.

01:30:44.000 But liberty, I think, I don't think is co-opted.

01:30:47.000 So you would say you are... I'm not making the new term.

01:30:52.000 I don't know.

01:30:53.000 But... I mean, I've heard the concept of the... Liberty-minded, I think, is cool.

01:30:59.000 You know, there's different words that can achieve it without having that association.

01:31:03.000 I think what draws me to the concept of, you know, yeah, but we can't define ourselves as a negative.

01:31:11.000 Right.

01:31:11.000 Why do you need to define yourself?

01:31:13.000 Pro-freedom.

01:31:14.000 I mean, come on.

01:31:15.000 You're right that that will be associated with the right, but that is actually... Dude, the Gadsden flag.

01:31:22.000 has one simple meaning.

01:31:24.000 Liberty.

01:31:25.000 Leave me alone.

01:31:26.000 Yet, the Antifa people have a flag of the communist fist killing the snake, squeezing it out.

01:31:37.000 So I have friends who are the left.

01:31:42.000 They will tell you outright they are in favor of the state taking away your freedoms.

01:31:45.000 So we can say freedom.

01:31:47.000 They'll still say, in the media, in every newspaper, right-wing.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, that's... that's fine.

01:31:54.000 Let them do that.

01:31:56.000 The interesting thing, I suppose, is that, like, on my Wikipedia, for instance, it says I'm both left and right, and they're like... It's like his anti-corporate politics are fairly left-wing, and it's like, bro, left and right don't mean anything other than tribal signifiers at this point.

01:32:09.000 Like, uh, I think left and right can probably be broken down very, very simply.

01:32:12.000 Do you question the narrative, or do you blindly follow it?

01:32:16.000 If you blindly follow it, that's what we consider left.

01:32:18.000 If you challenge it, that's what's considered right-wing.

01:32:21.000 So even if your positions are like pro-choice, tax the rich, universal healthcare, UBI, and you challenge official narrative, they'll call you right-wing.

01:32:29.000 I just think there's a lot of people on the left that don't want that to be the case.

01:32:34.000 The freedom sect of the left, they don't want that.

01:32:40.000 So what's the freedom sect of the left?

01:32:42.000 There is.

01:32:42.000 You know, it's there.

01:32:43.000 The anarcho-communists, the libertarian socialists.

01:32:52.000 When the libertarian socialists are following prominent individuals who celebrate rule by decree, and the anarcho-communists are firebombing small businesses, they are just lying about what they represent.

01:33:05.000 I don't know.

01:33:07.000 I don't want to give up hope that there is a group of people on that end of the spectrum that do care about values that matter.

01:33:18.000 When Gamergate happened, a lot of these people started posting their political compass tests and they were all left libertarian.

01:33:25.000 Now they're all like center, center right.

01:33:27.000 That happened to me.

01:33:28.000 I used to, I've been taking those, those little, you know, Cosmo testers of political affiliation and it used to be like all over here and now it's over here, but it's the same stuff.

01:33:39.000 Like I'm, I'm voicing the same opinion.

01:33:41.000 They're changing the algorithms to make you think that you're in some kind of club or labeled some certain way to divide you.

01:33:46.000 Like, don't play the game.

01:33:48.000 Don't say left and right.

01:33:49.000 Don't put people in camps and say they're conservative and this, because then they're going to use that.

01:33:53.000 To destroy the cults.

01:33:55.000 Yeah, they'll destroy each little cult.

01:33:56.000 The conservative cult, the liberal cult, the left cult, the right.

01:33:59.000 They will target that sect of things that we've created inadvertently.

01:34:03.000 We let ourselves lazily do it, so don't do it.

01:34:07.000 People want to be affiliated with each other.

01:34:08.000 People want to be part of groups.

01:34:10.000 It's understandable.

01:34:11.000 That's in our genetics to survive.

01:34:12.000 Yeah, I mean, we're a hive species, right?

01:34:15.000 There's one institutional cult, and that's it.

01:34:18.000 We're not a hive species.

01:34:20.000 No, we're like...

01:34:21.000 New York City looks kind of like a hive sometimes.

01:34:23.000 Yeah, but we, I don't think humans are necessarily hive animals.

01:34:26.000 We're more herd animals.

01:34:29.000 Yeah.

01:34:29.000 And, and to identify, Tim, I'm so sorry.

01:34:31.000 I didn't even understand what you just said.

01:34:33.000 Cause I was in the middle of that conversation with Libby.

01:34:35.000 What did you just say?

01:34:36.000 You said, you started pointing out like the conservative cult and this cult, and there's only one cult.

01:34:40.000 Oh, that I disagree with.

01:34:40.000 Obviously there's like cults, they exist, but independent voters and Republicans are

01:34:47.000 challenging the narrative.

01:34:49.000 Republican voters express disdain for the Republican Party.

01:34:53.000 Democrat voters overwhelmingly believe whatever they're told by Micah Brzezinski or Rachel

01:34:59.000 Maddow.

01:35:01.000 No, it isn't.

01:35:02.000 No, from the other perspective.

01:35:03.000 Yes, it is a narrative.

01:35:05.000 That's a cult.

01:35:07.000 When Tugger Carlson came out and said Sidney Powell was wrong, they lost like 3 million viewers.

01:35:11.000 Do you want to know something?

01:35:12.000 I was on his show that night, and I lost so many Twitter followers that night because I was on the show where he Slammed Sidney Powell.

01:35:19.000 That was very funny.

01:35:20.000 But they still retained millions of viewers and still is the biggest show because people on the right are not.

01:35:26.000 They're individualists.

01:35:28.000 They're not unified for the most part, though there are different groups within the right that make it up.

01:35:32.000 I'll put it this way.

01:35:34.000 No, I forgot the analogy I was going to use.

01:35:36.000 Anyway, the point is, the left as we know it, The ones that are pro-vaccine mandate, the ones that believe Trump colluded with Russia, the ones that never let that go.

01:35:46.000 They refuse to believe the facts when stories come out and say like Biden did this.

01:35:52.000 Mark Milley called China outside the chain of command.

01:35:56.000 All of this is, this story is developing, being confirmed.

01:35:59.000 Now we have the defense secretary saying, I never authorized that.

01:36:03.000 Now we have the defense secretary saying, if Trump gave a military order, it should

01:36:07.000 not be going to Mark Milley.

01:36:11.000 And what is the mainstream narrative?

01:36:13.000 He was a hero who stopped a madman.

01:36:15.000 That is the cult.

01:36:16.000 That they can tell you to your face they've shuttered the three branches of government, they have bypassed the standard process of legislation, and the priests of this, the so-called libertarian socialists, are celebrating the usurping of civilian authority, the usurping of the branches of our government.

01:36:34.000 They're in a cult.

01:36:35.000 Now, if Republican voters like, if Trump voters, Republican voters and independents argue with each other all day and night, but agree on certain principles of freedom, clearly not a cult.

01:36:45.000 Because I can have an argument with somebody about, like Jack the other day, about family and responsibility, and we're not unified, but we'll hang out, we'll have more shows and we'll debate these ideas.

01:36:54.000 Look at what the left does on their shows.

01:36:56.000 You can't challenge them.

01:36:58.000 Brian Stelter won't have on Glenn Greenwald to question him in any capacity, but Tucker Carlson brings on Antifa all the time.

01:37:03.000 If one side is saying, challenge the narrative and question science, because that's what science is supposed to be, and we'll absolutely entertain our rivals' positions, and the left says, never gonna allow it, let me tell you one more thing.

01:37:15.000 There's no sides, dude.

01:37:17.000 Well, there are people who are willing to talk and people who are not willing to talk.

01:37:20.000 There's tyranny and there is freedom.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, but that changes.

01:37:23.000 One person, I might not want to talk today, but tomorrow I could be in a different mood.

01:37:26.000 There are tyrants, like Gavin Newsom, who are putting rules in place and then breaking them, and you're saying, well, it's no sides.

01:37:33.000 Hey, I agree that he's acting like a tyrant, yes.

01:37:35.000 I would say that if you're acting like a tyrant, you are a tyrant.

01:37:39.000 Yeah, sure, but that doesn't mean that people are on two different sides.

01:37:42.000 Like, that's falling into the trap of the left and the right and the Republican.

01:37:45.000 I don't think it's necessarily a trap.

01:37:46.000 No, I'm trying to fix it.

01:37:47.000 You cannot fix it if you're going to play the fault.

01:37:50.000 Okay, but here's the thing that happened.

01:37:52.000 You have the, let's call them Democrats, because that's actually a political party and we can agree on the definition of that, right?

01:37:58.000 So you have the Democrats, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, all of these people, they assumed that, they decided that Trump's presidency was a sham presidency, right?

01:38:10.000 They decided that that was the case.

01:38:11.000 They acted as though that was the case for four years.

01:38:14.000 They acted outside of traditional... The law.

01:38:20.000 Durham is filing an indictment against the lawyer who fabricated evidence.

01:38:20.000 Sure, yeah.

01:38:23.000 What's his name?

01:38:24.000 Yeah.

01:38:24.000 Sussman?

01:38:25.000 So they did.

01:38:25.000 They acted extra judiciously.

01:38:27.000 They acted outside of legislative means because they believed that Trump was a sham president.

01:38:33.000 And they assumed that everyone else believed it, too.

01:38:36.000 Like, look at even when Biden was running for president and after he won and he started saying America is back, as though America wasn't here for the past four years the whole time.

01:38:45.000 Look, we got to go to Super Chats, but I'll say one more thing.

01:38:48.000 Joe Biden has come out on numerous occasions looking into the camera and addressing two nations.

01:38:56.000 That's it.

01:38:58.000 Initially he said, we need more lockdowns, we're gonna need more restrictions.

01:39:01.000 At a time when red states either didn't have them or were ending their lockdowns.

01:39:06.000 When Joe Biden said that, it was clear he wasn't talking to Republican states.

01:39:10.000 Recently he said, our patience is wearing thin.

01:39:14.000 He's not talking about blue states because we have the data from the CDC already.

01:39:17.000 Blue states are overwhelmingly vaxxed, around 70 to 80%.

01:39:20.000 He was talking to Louisiana.

01:39:22.000 But red states are under 50%.

01:39:24.000 There's no red and blue states.

01:39:27.000 There's states where, like, there might be a Republican governor, and there's a 63% of the people are registered Republican.

01:39:33.000 It doesn't mean the state is red.

01:39:34.000 There's a lot of people of a lot of different mentalities.

01:39:36.000 We're going to Super Chats?

01:39:37.000 Yeah, we are.

01:39:37.000 And I'm gonna tell you this.

01:39:39.000 We are not going to have these fake semantic arguments ever again.

01:39:42.000 Dude, this is the point of the conversation, is the semant. 0.99

01:39:45.000 Yes, that is what 1984 is about.

01:39:49.000 The issue is that when we can have three, we have a room with five people in it, and four people can say to you the definition of the word rights, and for no reason other than to just make a fake argument, you get into semantics, we're never doing that again.

01:40:01.000 What are you talking about rights?

01:40:03.000 We had a conversation about what rights were.

01:40:05.000 And no matter how many times we tried in good faith to give you a definition, you rejected it.

01:40:10.000 Because you weren't interested in actually coming to an understanding, you were just trying to argue.

01:40:14.000 People were telling me rights were derived from God.

01:40:16.000 I was pointing out that I don't think that that's true.

01:40:18.000 And when we tried to explain what that meant, because you're taking it to a theistic place instead of understanding the definition, you refused.

01:40:24.000 So we don't do that anymore.

01:40:25.000 So just one question on that.

01:40:27.000 So you think that just for practical purposes, it is worthwhile to just use the labels Even though they don't really mean anything, you think that it's just sort of a pragmatic thing to just do it.

01:40:42.000 They mean something.

01:40:44.000 It's not black and white.

01:40:45.000 There's nuance to it.

01:40:46.000 Like if you break down what left and right means on political compass, I'm clearly on the left economically and libertarian.

01:40:54.000 If you're talking about the overarching culture war, Then the left is simply people who agree with what the left tribe wants, and the right is simply people who agree with what the right tribe wants.

01:41:05.000 And if the right tribe includes libertarians, and even left libertarians, and the left doesn't include those people, then there's a clear understanding of what left and right means.

01:41:15.000 There are very clearly states that have an overwhelmingly red population.

01:41:18.000 We call them red states.

01:41:19.000 There are states that are overwhelmingly blue.

01:41:21.000 And you can track a whole bunch of data points across them.

01:41:23.000 For instance, vaccination rates.

01:41:25.000 Blue states, except for the ones that Trump challenged, the five states that were being challenged by Republicans, those are the only low vaccination rate blue states.

01:41:35.000 But every state that voted for Trump outside of those states have low vaccination rates.

01:41:40.000 Every state that voted for Joe Biden, aside of the anomaly, has high vaccination rates.

01:41:45.000 When Joe Biden comes out and looks in the camera and says, our patience is wearing thin, it is impossible to believe that he is talking to the states that are already vaccinated.

01:41:54.000 He's clearly, there's a delineation between what this country is, And he is telling the other group, we are losing our patience.

01:42:03.000 Who's we?

01:42:04.000 They've done it on more than one occasion.

01:42:05.000 They've repeatedly gone on CNN, these pundits, and said, we need to make it miserable for them.

01:42:11.000 And people have pointed this stuff out.

01:42:13.000 Don Lemon keeps saying that.

01:42:14.000 Right.

01:42:14.000 Don Lemon on CNN keeps saying that people who are not vaccinated should be segregated from the rest of society and that they're bringing the rest of the country down.

01:42:22.000 And now we have a landlord in Florida who's saying, I'm going to evict people who aren't vaccinated.

01:42:26.000 So there's very clearly, what people need to understand is that we're not talking about a simple one, negative one, two completely isolated numbers mirroring each other.

01:42:37.000 There's overlap in communities of people who believe certain things.

01:42:40.000 There's conservatives who live in blue areas, but the area is still overwhelmingly dominated by a certain culture.

01:42:45.000 There are different sides.

01:42:47.000 And the idea that like, you know, when Bill Maher said, a civil war can't happen because the Mason-Dixon line would run through Nana's kitchen.

01:42:54.000 Do you think that the states would just go...

01:42:56.000 He has like no idea what he's talking about.

01:42:58.000 Anyway, let's read Super Chats.

01:42:59.000 Yes.

01:43:00.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and go to TimCast.com because we will have that bonus segment coming up.

01:43:07.000 All right.

01:43:09.000 We got Nicholas Lipset says, I wonder if those that didn't submit their vaccine to the CDC are counted in the stats for the vaccinated.

01:43:15.000 I didn't and don't have my card anymore.

01:43:17.000 I also know a lot of others that didn't.

01:43:20.000 Interesting.

01:43:21.000 People have also mentioned that the cards were too big for wallets and they had lost them already.

01:43:25.000 Hmm.

01:43:26.000 I think you were mentioning that too, right?

01:43:27.000 Yeah.

01:43:28.000 In New York.

01:43:28.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 Odra Noelle Zenitram says, it's not the country falling apart.

01:43:35.000 It's the centralization forced upon by the Fed.

01:43:38.000 This is a good thing.

01:43:39.000 Also, enough of the China fear mongering.

01:43:41.000 They're broke and saber rattle with paper mache saber.

01:43:44.000 I think that's wrong.

01:43:45.000 Yeah, I disagree with that.

01:43:46.000 A lot of people have tried pushing that narrative of like, oh, China's weak.

01:43:49.000 Paper tiger.

01:43:50.000 They just want us to believe that so that they can, you know.

01:43:53.000 Yep.

01:43:54.000 Smart.

01:43:55.000 Take over the world.

01:43:56.000 Alright, let's see.

01:43:56.000 Kevin Byrne says, the animated shorts on the Cast Castle are great. They call him Eon.

01:44:00.000 They are absolutely wonderful.

01:44:03.000 And if you haven't already, go to youtube.com slash cast castle, subscribe to the vlog, new episodes every day.

01:44:08.000 All right, let's see, what is this?

01:44:12.000 That hasmet says, Tim, you make my soul cry paying absurd secondary market pricing for hard to find bottles.

01:44:21.000 These shops are price gougers and have these dusty bottles sitting around for a reason.

01:44:25.000 They harm the whiskey.

01:44:27.000 They harm the whiskey, com?

01:44:29.000 Yes, I am aware.

01:44:31.000 It is hard to find certain bottles and I don't know what to do.

01:44:35.000 So you go to a place and they're like, we charge a premium on it.

01:44:37.000 I'm like, if you want to get it, I don't have time to go drive around the country looking for the stuff at, you know, better prices.

01:44:46.000 Mark, uh-oh, Mark Giudetti.

01:44:49.000 Secession is treason.

01:44:50.000 Encouraging it is inciting treason, so please stop being a traitor, Tim.

01:44:54.000 You are better than Millie, so don't be a traitor.

01:44:56.000 Encouraging secession?

01:44:57.000 What?

01:44:58.000 That's quite a leap, that whole thread there.

01:45:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:45:03.000 Quiet moves good.

01:45:03.000 It's a perspective.

01:45:04.000 Yeah, it is a perspective.

01:45:06.000 It's one.

01:45:07.000 It is a view that a person has.

01:45:09.000 That's right, he's allowed.

01:45:11.000 Let's see.

01:45:12.000 Well, Dernaven says, fun fact, secession is in New Hampshire's constitution.

01:45:17.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:45:18.000 Well, there you go.

01:45:23.000 Dee says, my mom's doctor took the vax but recommended she not get it due to heart problems.

01:45:27.000 One of the leading causes of death in the U.S.

01:45:29.000 is heart disease.

01:45:29.000 In fact, it is the leading cause.

01:45:31.000 I think 660,000 people per year die of heart disease.

01:45:35.000 That's a lot, yeah.

01:45:36.000 And it is mostly older people, but it scales down to younger people.

01:45:40.000 So I think, you know, maybe we need to protect people's hearts from the unhealthy.

01:45:45.000 Yeah, probably so.

01:45:46.000 We got to triage this stuff.

01:45:47.000 We can't, if someone comes into a hospital and they're like, you know, my heart hurts

01:45:52.000 and someone else is morbidly obese, sorry, morbidly obese person, you get out.

01:45:56.000 That's what the left has been saying, right?

01:45:57.000 About how we do this.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, they've been saying that their version of personal responsibility is that you are

01:46:03.000 responsible for the diseases you get.

01:46:06.000 But nothing else.

01:46:07.000 We won't say the lab, we'll say the cultists.

01:46:08.000 Okay.

01:46:09.000 But you're not responsible personally for anything else.

01:46:11.000 You're not personally responsible for the debts you incur or the jobs you won't take or anything like that.

01:46:15.000 Cultist is actually a great word to just keep using more.

01:46:18.000 There you go.

01:46:20.000 Let's see.

01:46:21.000 Andrew Starr says, Ian's show should be called Getting Baked with Cosmic Garth.

01:46:27.000 I like it.

01:46:28.000 All right.

01:46:31.000 Seriously, JK says, imagine spearheading a mass effort to actually show the culture war to people who are not paying attention.

01:46:36.000 Then show them Twitter for the first time so they can see what is actually going on.

01:46:40.000 Minds would be blown.

01:46:41.000 That's politics.

01:46:43.000 A lot of people have no idea.

01:46:45.000 And I think it's funny when, you know, people like these high profile comedians who are like in politics don't go online and they don't know how Twitter influences the world. 0.99

01:46:55.000 And then you go on Twitter and like some random idiot tweets and then a media company loses a sponsor because some idiot lied on Twitter. 0.97

01:47:03.000 I had a lot of respect for Nicki Minaj's statement last night that she came out with. 1.00

01:47:08.000 I thought it was good.

01:47:09.000 So just real quick, I looked up the secession treason thing, and secession in itself I do not think is a form of treason.

01:47:16.000 Going to war with a country is a form of treason, which is basically what happened in Civil War.

01:47:21.000 Yeah, it could be considered sedition, but treason is adhering to the enemy or providing them aid and comfort.

01:47:27.000 So if New Hampshire's like, yo, we out, they can say that's seditious, but I don't think it's treason.

01:47:32.000 I don't see it.

01:47:33.000 Like telling another country that we'll give them fair warning if we're going to attack just on the side.

01:47:37.000 That sounds like treason.

01:47:38.000 That's not so great.

01:47:39.000 Blackrock Beacon says, Ian, they do have cult leaders, many of them.

01:47:43.000 The cult is more like a religious organization that has preachers.

01:47:45.000 It's the blue church, the cathedral.

01:47:48.000 That's one way to put it.

01:47:52.000 Let's see.

01:47:53.000 Dema... Is that a... It's hard to read if it's an R, N, or an M. Demavend says, Article 10 of the NH Bill of Rights is the right of revolution.

01:48:00.000 We have secession already there.

01:48:02.000 So if you're not familiar with the Free State Project, you can check out their website.

01:48:05.000 They're basically like, you sign a pledge saying we're going to move there and just completely advocate for freedom.

01:48:09.000 So, there you go.

01:48:13.000 Who's there?

01:48:13.000 Mike says, Ian, I understand that you are resisting fear, panic and trying to be optimistic.

01:48:18.000 I would ask you though, when have they ever given up their power?

01:48:21.000 Who is there?

01:48:22.000 There is also not one Hitler to point to on purpose.

01:48:25.000 That way you cannot aim your rage onto one person.

01:48:28.000 You aim at a party.

01:48:29.000 George Washington gave up his power.

01:48:31.000 That's what he's saying is the left is a group of people and many of them are in powerful

01:48:38.000 positions and many of them are just cogs in the machine, blindly following and giving

01:48:43.000 their resources and power to empower these people who then do things like Gavin Newsom.

01:48:47.000 He's not the president, but he says, everybody, we're shutting down your businesses.

01:48:51.000 Hollywood, you're good to go.

01:48:53.000 Ladies, small business, you're shut down. 1.00

01:48:55.000 Me, by the way, I'll go to a restaurant violating all the rules and not wear a mask.

01:48:58.000 I mean, if you zoom out, I think all of us as Americans are blindly giving money or supporting a system like this.

01:49:05.000 It's not totalitarian, but it's like a world military.

01:49:10.000 Whatever's taken over the United States, by us kind of passively enjoying the United States' benefits, we're supporting it.

01:49:17.000 I think Trump voters voted for him on the basis of him saying he was going to be getting out of the Middle East, and then he gained something like 11 million new voters because he was actively getting our troops out of the Middle East and putting these deals in place.

01:49:31.000 I think most Americans don't want these wars, do want to get out, don't want the tyranny.

01:49:36.000 They want to have their homestead, they want to have their family, they want to be left alone and live peacefully and not be engaging in global conflict.

01:49:42.000 The problem is, there is a cult that is willing to elect Joe Biden a warmonger and re-empower the establishment to go about blowing stuff up.

01:49:52.000 And there you go.

01:49:52.000 But it's also been, I mean, it's been the implementation of crisis politics for the past Twenty years.

01:49:59.000 And we have taken those crises, looked at them and said, OK, because of this crisis, we will give up our rights.

01:50:04.000 Right.

01:50:04.000 We gave up our rights with the Patriot Act, the formation of the Department of Homeland Security, which now seems to believe that domestic white terror, white supremacy is the biggest terrorist threat facing the country.

01:50:17.000 We just have systematically given up our rights ever since September 11th, willingly saying, you know, we're not going to hold our representatives to account.

01:50:25.000 And we still don't.

01:50:27.000 I think why don't we?

01:50:28.000 The cult is global.

01:50:30.000 It's it's a and to divide the Americans up now is not good because it is there is a cult that put Joe Biden in power and it's not American.

01:50:41.000 It's some weird global organization, dude.

01:50:43.000 Like, I don't think the Great Reset is real.

01:50:45.000 It's a global cult.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:50:47.000 But I do think that it's about time America dealt with itself.

01:50:51.000 But not by dividing ourselves.

01:50:53.000 Maybe not by dividing ourselves, but I think that we should be American exceptionalists.

01:50:58.000 I think we should look at our nation and say, these are the things we stand for.

01:51:02.000 They are right and true and good, and we're going to stand for them no matter what.

01:51:06.000 I think the issue is that Ian hasn't experienced what it means to go up against evil.

01:51:11.000 Like, right?

01:51:11.000 So when you have what we call the cult, and I will in good faith communicate with a journalist and provide them hard evidence that the claims made against me are not true, and they purposefully omit that because their real goal is destruction and pain, like, you're like, wow.

01:51:26.000 That's evil.

01:51:27.000 And so you're like, we shouldn't divide ourselves, bro.

01:51:30.000 You're letting a fox in the hen house under the presumption that, well, we're all animals.

01:51:34.000 We can all live together.

01:51:35.000 It's like, but we watched the fox murder the hens.

01:51:37.000 Don't let it in the hen house.

01:51:38.000 And you're like, we shouldn't divide ourselves.

01:51:39.000 We're all creatures of God's green earth.

01:51:41.000 Well, we're all American citizens.

01:51:42.000 We're not foxes and hens.

01:51:44.000 The point I'm making is that You can look at Aaron Rupar, a guy who's so notorious for lying that he has a word, Ruparing.

01:51:55.000 Yes, he does.

01:51:56.000 People call it Ruparing when you take someone out of context on purpose and lie about them.

01:52:01.000 He does it so often.

01:52:02.000 And he works for a major company that's massively funded.

01:52:06.000 And he supports people like Joe Biden, who enriches his family off corruption.

01:52:10.000 Hillary Clinton, who takes all of these emails and deletes them and destroys them. 0.93

01:52:14.000 Whose staff smashed cell phones with hammers.

01:52:17.000 No, I'm not saying the Republicans are good.

01:52:19.000 They're bad people, too.

01:52:20.000 Trump came in as a bull, smashing it as an insurgent candidate, causing a lot of problems for the establishment neocons, who immediately then joined the Democrats, the Lincoln Project, supposedly conservatives.

01:52:32.000 Now they're pro-choice, because they have no principles.

01:52:34.000 They are pro-establishment.

01:52:36.000 When you go and see Antifa throw an explosive at a 60-70 year old woman. 0.93

01:52:41.000 When I watched in San Jose a mob of leftists, some with Bernie shirts on, shove a couple of old people in their 60s to the ground, take their hats off their head and set them on fire.

01:52:52.000 You think you're going to unite with these people?

01:52:54.000 You've not experienced it.

01:52:55.000 Well, what's your other option?

01:52:57.000 I went to a group of Trump supporters and I said, I'd like to talk.

01:53:00.000 And he said, no problem, sir.

01:53:01.000 Would you like to join us for dinner? 0.96

01:53:03.000 Daryl Davis walked over to the protesters at our event and said, you guys, and they said, Nazi, shame, Nazi.

01:53:09.000 And he was like, what's happening?

01:53:11.000 And then he posted, he posted on Facebook, I've never experienced this before, that he walked up to clansmen and they allowed him to come and talk with them.

01:53:19.000 And those people are bad people.

01:53:21.000 But he was able to find some good, some light in the darkness, and pull that out of the shadows.

01:53:26.000 That I understand.

01:53:27.000 But when you are confronting this corrupt mold, this destructive chaotic force, that not even Daryl Davis could break through.

01:53:36.000 It's the system.

01:53:37.000 You have to change the system.

01:53:38.000 It's a cult.

01:53:39.000 And these people are- The cult is a derivative of the system, of the fractional reserve of this weird- It's the media.

01:53:45.000 Media?

01:53:45.000 Yeah.

01:53:45.000 But it's more than that.

01:53:47.000 It is a cult.

01:53:48.000 It is not that the media one day, the guy who owns CNN, you know, Jeff Zucker, president, he didn't go to a meeting where they're like, we want to indoctrinate everybody.

01:53:56.000 It was like, you got it.

01:53:57.000 They eat their own refuse.

01:53:59.000 It is a sewer.

01:54:01.000 Jack Dorsey used to be the CEO of the free speech wing of the Free Speech Party. 1.00

01:54:06.000 But then Twitter became this hive of scum and villainy where people were making money off of being assholes and then Jack ate all of that refuse and then espoused it back out and still does. 0.99

01:54:18.000 They are being infected by their own algorithmic psychosis. 0.99

01:54:22.000 And now you have people in the streets genuinely believing that black people are being hunted down by the police and murdered, which is not true, and they're burning down small businesses and killing people because of it.

01:54:32.000 There is a problem in this country, and there are people who are standing up, criticizing the narrative and questioning it, and even challenging me.

01:54:40.000 They'll say, Tim, you're wrong about this, Tim, you're wrong about that, every single day.

01:54:43.000 But in that world, I can't even get a single leftist to show up to talk to Alex Jones.

01:54:49.000 Really?

01:54:50.000 Yeah, we booked one person and they said, I'm so excited to do this and then cancelled on us at the last minute.

01:54:56.000 I reached out to a few more and they all said the same thing.

01:54:58.000 I will not do this.

01:54:59.000 Why?

01:54:59.000 Because they're in a cult.

01:55:01.000 And if they stand up and ever associate with anyone on the other side, like we would like to, they will be destroyed, they know it, and they refuse.

01:55:09.000 That's why so many of the anti-SJW YouTubers from back in the day during GamerGate flipped and are now leftists.

01:55:15.000 Or at the very least, bowed out of the fight.

01:55:17.000 Because they're more worried about them, their ability to make money, than to stand up for their principles, and they know.

01:55:23.000 The encroachment of the CADEC destructive force is seeping into more and more institutions, and they've bet we will lose.

01:55:30.000 I don't care if we lose, because I'll get in my van and go down by the river, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and be like the dude who threw a brick through the mom and pop bakery shop or burned it down and killed a guy.

01:55:41.000 Let's unite with those people.

01:55:42.000 They're good people.

01:55:42.000 Well, and Ian, you can have compassion, you know, on a human level for them, but also not play their game and call them out.

01:55:50.000 Which you do, quite frankly.

01:55:52.000 I think that Ian likes to play the semantic game, but he also does call out things when it's obvious.

01:56:01.000 So you can do both at the same time.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, I think we have to.

01:56:06.000 You have to stop the actions of violence, but also understand that those people can be de-radicalized.

01:56:14.000 Darryl Davis couldn't do it.

01:56:15.000 I don't think they want to be de-radicalized.

01:56:17.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:56:19.000 I mean, they have everything.

01:56:20.000 They have all of culture.

01:56:22.000 They have all of politics for the most part.

01:56:24.000 Why would you possibly want to be de-radicalized?

01:56:26.000 Darryl doesn't force people.

01:56:27.000 Darryl doesn't, can't.

01:56:28.000 Look, you can't force someone to de-radicalize.

01:56:30.000 So Darryl only engages with people who are willing to talk to him.

01:56:35.000 And they weren't.

01:56:35.000 And they weren't, exactly.

01:56:37.000 So you can't, you're not going to convince, you're not going to force someone to change.

01:56:42.000 Daryl deals with people over years at a time, listens to them literally for months hating on him, and then eventually they start asking questions about him.

01:56:53.000 Did you see the picture of the woman in the gorilla mask throwing eggs at Larry Elder?

01:56:57.000 I thought that was actually, do you guys remember the Gorilla Girls?

01:57:02.000 So the Gorilla Girls were a, you know, basically a leftist activist group where they would all wear gorilla masks to stage actions.

01:57:11.000 And I think that that was actually, it looked to me like a gorilla girl mask.

01:57:16.000 But also it was sort of amazing that this person was unaware, seemingly unaware that they were wearing... They're zombies!

01:57:25.000 Like a really... 0.97

01:57:26.000 That would be so racist.

01:57:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:57:27.000 It would just be so racist to wear a gorilla mask and throw eggs at a black guy. 1.00

01:57:32.000 Attack a black man. 1.00

01:57:33.000 You know, what the heck is that about? 1.00

01:57:34.000 They're zombies. 0.72

01:57:35.000 Right.

01:57:35.000 You know, that's crazy.

01:57:36.000 They're zombies.

01:57:37.000 Yeah.

01:57:38.000 If you look at like Antifa, you know, you were talking about them and they were recently, I think it was in Portland, and they were attacking Christians and throwing, the Christians were having like a, you know, some sort of prayer thing and they threw all their sound equipment at I was in San Bernardino and there were Trump protesters and Antifa protesters.

01:57:59.000 And I was just there filming.

01:58:01.000 And a bunch of the people on the right, some of them knew I was a few years ago.

01:58:06.000 I walked over to the Antipa people, and they were standing there holding signs, and I was like, hey, would you guys wanna... And as soon as I did, a woman came up and started going, Mike, check!

01:58:14.000 Mike, check!

01:58:16.000 And then they all started repeating her, Mike, check!

01:58:18.000 Mike, check!

01:58:19.000 And she goes, do not speak!

01:58:21.000 Do not speak to anyone!

01:58:24.000 To anyone!

01:58:25.000 They're trying to trick you!

01:58:27.000 They're trying to trick you!

01:58:29.000 And then I was like, okay, well they do that all the time.

01:58:33.000 And then I was like, would any of you guys, and they completely ignore me, would not say anything because it is a zombie horde.

01:58:41.000 It is a cult.

01:58:42.000 There is no unifying with people who you can't even talk to.

01:58:47.000 If you can't even invite them to sit down.

01:58:52.000 So there are some people that I think of as reasonable on the left, that are leftists, that like hate Trump and all that stuff, they won't come on.

01:58:58.000 Of all of the people, that's why I'm like, my respect to Vaush.

01:59:01.000 People rag on him all the time, but he came here twice.

01:59:04.000 And so there are a handful of people I know who follow me, they're on the left, and they refuse to come and have a conversation with people on the right.

01:59:12.000 Dude, I'm on the show with you, dude.

01:59:15.000 I'm the other, I'm the guy on the left.

01:59:16.000 I'm here with you.

01:59:17.000 You're not on the left, Ian.

01:59:18.000 I mean, basically.

01:59:19.000 You're not.

01:59:20.000 I'm pretty much a socialist leftist.

01:59:21.000 But just because you can't unify with somebody now, you know, it's okay to say, you know, okay, yeah, at some point in the distant future, someone who will refuse to have a conversation now, maybe in 30 years, they'll be ready for a conversation.

01:59:35.000 I think part of what's going on though is it's not just about having a conversation.

01:59:38.000 you know, 20 years to, you know, be willing to come to the table. At the end

01:59:41.000 of the day, people need to be willing to have the conversation. I think part of what's

01:59:46.000 going on though is it's not just about having a conversation. It's about there

01:59:49.000 being entirely divergent worldviews. So these, you know, cultists, leftists,

01:59:54.000 whatever the word is that we are coming up with this evening, they don't have,

01:59:59.000 there's not a same worldview.

02:00:02.000 There's not a same perspective on what America is, on what society should be about, on what values should be.

02:00:08.000 It's like we don't have the same concept of reality at this point.

02:00:13.000 If you, like, great example would be watch Joy read.

02:00:18.000 And then watch Tucker Carlson.

02:00:19.000 And you'd be shocked to find that they are actually in the same world, in the same country.

02:00:26.000 And you'd be shocked to find that Joy Reid's lying half the time, and Tucker is opinionated.

02:00:32.000 They're probably both represented by the same talent agency for gigs.

02:00:38.000 When Tucker criticized Simon & Schuster, but then he has his book through Simon & Schuster.

02:00:42.000 Well, that's why he was criticizing Simon & Schuster.

02:00:45.000 Like he was criticizing Simon & Schuster based on his experience working with them.

02:00:51.000 If we can look at all of the economic numbers across the board.

02:00:54.000 I'm not saying he was right about that, by the way.

02:00:56.000 If we can look at every economic number from the loss of jobs, job openings, jobs being filled, unemployment increasing, all of these things, and be like, these are bad indicators.

02:01:06.000 If we can see that projected GDP growth is actually dropping down to slightly above average at a time when we're supposed to be in this massive recovery, and we're getting more lockdowns now, the vaccine mandates are causing businesses to decline, there's a massive labor shortage, so people are struggling to hire, and then the Democrats go, the economy's pretty good.

02:01:23.000 Yeah, they don't live in reality, dude.

02:01:24.000 No, media's twisting a lot of people, but it's coordinated from way beyond the United States.

02:01:29.000 And you can't break them out of it because cult techniques... The way you get someone out of a cult is you remove them from the cult and don't let them communicate with the cult until they can snap out into reality.

02:01:38.000 But now they have smartphones that assure them no matter what happens, they will always be hooked into the Matrix.

02:01:44.000 How do you get them out of it?

02:01:46.000 You can't.

02:01:47.000 I have family members who have lost their minds.

02:01:50.000 I have friends who have lost their minds.

02:01:53.000 There are people I grew up with who are going on Twitter and making things up about me.

02:01:58.000 There was one story, my favorite story, was that at 2am, I went to an activist's house in Boston and turned their TV on, waking up everyone in their house.

02:02:07.000 And I'm like, how dare you?

02:02:08.000 What?

02:02:09.000 And people were commenting like, whoa, I can't believe Tim would do that.

02:02:12.000 And I'm like, that's insanity.

02:02:13.000 When was I in Boston?

02:02:16.000 I don't know you.

02:02:17.000 How'd you get the remote?

02:02:18.000 But they make these things up.

02:02:20.000 I have friends that I used to skate with every day that I grew up in Chicago that are going on Twitter and lying about me because they're in a cult.

02:02:27.000 And I have actually messaged them like, I've known you for 15 years.

02:02:30.000 You know that's not true about me.

02:02:32.000 Here's more evidence from my private files proving that story was fake.

02:02:36.000 And they go, I don't care.

02:02:38.000 They're in a cult.

02:02:39.000 They do not care.

02:02:39.000 They actually say that they don't care.

02:02:41.000 They don't overtly say the words, I don't care.

02:02:44.000 They just will put me on read and then say something like...

02:02:47.000 Well, I'm reading the news, so... And then they... If I give evidence... So I have one friend who was posting lies about me based on a fake article, and then I showed him private business records like, bro, I've known you for decades.

02:03:01.000 Like, look at this right here.

02:03:02.000 That story is not true.

02:03:04.000 And then he went right back to Twitter and started posting the same lies.

02:03:07.000 And so I was... I messaged him again.

02:03:09.000 I was like, dude, if you don't care about the fact that I can give you the records proving the story's a lie, You're in a cult.

02:03:16.000 He would rather ignore the evidence and maintain the lies to be part of the mob that's burning the country down.

02:03:22.000 Yeah, I like this.

02:03:23.000 This cult metaphor is a lot easier to understand than left and right for me because they are kind of in a cult where the cult leader is this media apparatus.

02:03:33.000 We gotta read some more Super Chats because we didn't do enough.

02:03:37.000 The Raptor's Talon says, are you planning on hiring video games journalists?

02:03:40.000 I would offer myself were it not for my complete lack of journalistic experience.

02:03:44.000 Perhaps, but we have a whole bunch of irons in the fire right now, and we need to first launch the Mystery Show, which we've been working on for some time.

02:03:52.000 We have to do graphics, we're coding the website to be able to handle the new members' content.

02:03:57.000 Right now, TimCast.com has members' content, but it's all TimCast IRL.

02:04:01.000 In order to launch a new show with members' content, we have to be able to separate the different shows when you go to the members' area.

02:04:07.000 So it's gonna be like any one of these streaming services with different shows, and I think we have like seven shows in production.

02:04:13.000 So I'm trying to make sure we're not spreading too thin and we're actually going to get these shows cranked out.

02:04:18.000 But we've actually been filming to produce a lot of these.

02:04:21.000 The next step is the website needs to be coded to handle the multiple shows.

02:04:25.000 We have one show that's basically ready to go, The Mysteries Show.

02:04:28.000 You're going to love it.

02:04:28.000 We have awesome art for it already and great stories.

02:04:31.000 And it'll be really, really great.

02:04:34.000 Zappler says, Tim, I completely agree with you about creating new culture.

02:04:37.000 I'm working on releasing a new novel about vampire hunters called Wilting Blood that is both entertaining while also promoting good values.

02:04:45.000 Early reactions are positive.

02:04:47.000 Really, really cool.

02:04:47.000 Cool name.

02:04:48.000 Good to hear.

02:04:48.000 All right, let's see.

02:04:50.000 We'll try and grab some of these That person should look into the critical theory that was embedded into Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which is a very real thing.

02:05:00.000 The creators of Buffy the Vampire Slayer were, you know, thinking about... The TV show?

02:05:04.000 Yes, yes.

02:05:05.000 The creators were, you know, embedded that narrative inside, yeah.

02:05:08.000 I've watched that whole thing twice.

02:05:11.000 6.8 says, Tim, you need a FOIA task force to pry the info out of these a-holes.

02:05:16.000 Props, man, you're the new Glenn Beck.

02:05:18.000 Well, Glenn Beck's still around.

02:05:22.000 But, you know, I was talking about this, how many people in media are taking their resources and building and trying to grow a network.

02:05:29.000 And, uh, Glenn Beck is like, he's the guy doing that, and then I'm like, we're doing that too, so I understand what you're saying.

02:05:35.000 You're right about the FOIA task force.

02:05:37.000 We already have two legal filings in for two different 501c3s.

02:05:40.000 The one thing I will say is a 501c3 can't do political journalism, because they're not allowed to engage in political, like, campaigning stuff.

02:05:49.000 But we're planning on doing fact-checking and Investigatory journalism through the nonprofit.

02:05:54.000 We're also filing the the open networking nonprofit Which is going to create open source networking tools so that people can't be banned anymore utilizing the Fediverse I'm sure all of the wackos who use the Fediverse are very happy to hear that All right Rick Howell says Red, blue, right, left are labels like man and woman.

02:06:16.000 All can be generally defined and generally true, but all have exceptions and corner cases.

02:06:20.000 Arguing the exceptions is valid, but often not worthwhile.

02:06:23.000 Interesting.

02:06:24.000 He could be splitting hairs.

02:06:26.000 Alright, let's see.

02:06:30.000 Blue C says, Ian, yes, there are now two sides.

02:06:33.000 There is no middle.

02:06:34.000 Ask Cubans and Venezuelans. 0.99

02:06:36.000 But why only two?

02:06:37.000 That's my question.

02:06:38.000 Why not 700,000, you know?

02:06:39.000 Because the cult is massive.

02:06:41.000 The cult is massive.

02:06:41.000 There's the cult and then the not-cult.

02:06:43.000 Okay, now that's a different situation than two sides.

02:06:45.000 That's a big problem that's out there that we should all focus on.

02:06:49.000 But that doesn't mean that it's a side of an equation.

02:06:53.000 But it is.

02:06:54.000 So like, the cult is the Borg.

02:06:57.000 And then you have the Federation, the Romulans, the Cardassians, and the Klingons. 0.96

02:07:03.000 And they really don't get along all that much.

02:07:05.000 But when the Borg comes around, it's like, oh man, that's a big problem for everybody.

02:07:09.000 Maybe the Cardassians weren't a good... The Dominion weren't so worried about the Borg, were they? 0.87

02:07:14.000 No, the Dominion was a force that united the other sides.

02:07:19.000 Right.

02:07:20.000 So that's a better, yeah, good point.

02:07:22.000 The cult is the Dominion in Deep Space Nine, and they were shapeshifting, massive empire, and they were basically like, the Federation was losing.

02:07:31.000 Well, the shapeshifters were in charge, and then they had all of their Dominion, their minions. 1.00

02:07:37.000 And so the Federation was losing, and on the verge of collapse, the Romulans refused to get involved. 0.93

02:07:44.000 The Romulans hate the Federation, but then they eventually, you know, Cisco effectively tricked them. 0.95

02:07:48.000 Well, it was a great episode where he got the Romulans to join the side. 0.87

02:07:52.000 But anyway, that's that's the point.

02:07:53.000 Like, whatever this side is, it's comprised of a bunch of small different factions with the Republican Party probably as one of the biggest components of it.

02:08:01.000 But I can't stand the Republican Party for the most part.

02:08:03.000 But there are a lot of people like me who are probably left liberal politically, who think the cult is a dangerous, destructive Borg force that needs to be stopped.

02:08:12.000 So, I'm willing to vote for Donald Trump, who says, I'm going to stop these things specifically, and promote values that will prohibit this in the future, and I'm like, we need to stop this.

02:08:22.000 So, you know, in the primary, two years ago, I was like, Yang and Tulsi, I was, Yang had a huge list of proposals, it was brilliant.

02:08:32.000 Like, he went through policy like no one I've ever seen.

02:08:35.000 Too many of these people just bend the knee to the Borg, as soon as it comes down to it.

02:08:39.000 So, all right, we'll just grab a couple, we'll just grab a couple more here.

02:08:42.000 Because we got to do the member segment.

02:08:47.000 All right, let's see.

02:08:49.000 People are mentioning, uh, illegal immigrants.

02:08:53.000 D. C. Lenmaji.

02:08:55.000 C. Lenmagi.

02:08:56.000 Ian, your optimism is admirable.

02:08:58.000 We will not fix the cult if peace is what we're after.

02:09:01.000 Then fine, accept division and secession to save the sovereignty of individuals somewhere.

02:09:05.000 War will always be human. 0.98

02:09:07.000 That was a powerful super shot.

02:09:09.000 Michael Rutherford says, I'm a leftist, and it's hilarious since we are saying the same thing about you guys, that you have all been radicalized and need deprogramming.

02:09:17.000 And that's the point.

02:09:18.000 We're objectively correct in that.

02:09:22.000 Well, I don't think either of us are correct.

02:09:24.000 We are.

02:09:24.000 We're quite literally correct.

02:09:26.000 When I can do research and look into the Ukraine meddling and the corrupt actions of Joe Biden, and then look into the Russia stuff and be like, hmm, It seems like Donald Trump is an asshole. 1.00

02:09:38.000 He's got bad mannerisms, but he's not a racist. 1.00

02:09:41.000 He won civil rights award. 0.99

02:09:43.000 He's an old man who's lewd and lascivious. 1.00

02:09:45.000 I can accept all of those things because I looked into it. 0.96

02:09:48.000 Joe Biden has a magazine article from Politico called Biden Inc.

02:09:51.000 that maps the corruption of his family.

02:09:54.000 And then they delete the news articles from Twitter, proving that the son's laptop Proving that Hunter Biden's laptop had all this stuff on it, and that he was doing crack with hookers, and that Joe Biden was meeting with him, and then Tony Bobulinski comes out and says Biden was the big man who was getting cut in on the deal, and I'm like, all those things happened, and all the news is there.

02:10:12.000 And then they come out and say, but you're in a cult.

02:10:14.000 Yo! 1.00

02:10:15.000 I've been saying the entire time, I get into an Uber, and they're like, man, Trump is an asshole, isn't he? 1.00

02:10:20.000 I wish he didn't talk the way he did. 1.00

02:10:22.000 But Hillary Clinton? 1.00

02:10:23.000 She's evil. 1.00

02:10:25.000 Yes.

02:10:26.000 There are a lot of people who are like... I'll put it this way.

02:10:30.000 Trump has his cult.

02:10:31.000 It's really small.

02:10:33.000 They have no influence and no institutional power.

02:10:36.000 So when the media highlights the fringe as the boogeyman and says, the alt-right... Vox wrote an article saying the alt-right could be as large as, you know, 40 million people or something like that.

02:10:48.000 Like some insane number.

02:10:50.000 NBC wrote a story, it was Brandy Zdrozny, wrote a story in the spring about how the lack of white supremacists at white supremacy rallies was evidence of how deep-seated white supremacy is in the United States.

02:11:03.000 That there weren't white supremacists there was the evidence.

02:11:07.000 No, but honestly, that super chat is amazing because that's someone calling themselves a leftist

02:11:12.000 willing to throw up a few bucks to say that. And like, yeah, it is true that they're using the

02:11:19.000 cult word as well. But I think that it's pretty clearly. Is it radicalization to be like,

02:11:25.000 the founding fathers were right. The basis of our country.

02:11:29.000 That's racist. The basis of this country that's been around for 250 years that we learn in

02:11:35.000 history class and it is regular American culture is not radicalization in any sense of the

02:11:39.000 imagination.

02:11:40.000 The radicalization is not the media, because this is media.

02:11:44.000 This is the media as well.

02:11:45.000 It's the people who are cheering for rule by decree and forced medication on the American population.

02:11:49.000 I think it's the media that's brainwashing those people.

02:11:52.000 Yes, is the focus not the people that are getting brainwashed all of their they end up yelling. They're guilty to social

02:11:58.000 media and Establishment media. Yeah. Yep

02:12:01.000 Now it is but these are all individuals who have to make their own 0.84

02:12:04.000 Determinations and decisions and are responsible for their own views and their own actions. So final thought before we

02:12:09.000 wrap up. I will say this The point I was making earlier about when the conflict comes.

02:12:14.000 These people genuinely believe that we have all been radicalized.

02:12:19.000 That when I have Vosh, a socialist, on the show and give him space to speak, I'm somehow radicalized.

02:12:24.000 Yet other leftists won't come on the show at all.

02:12:28.000 You want to talk about radicalization?

02:12:29.000 It's that the only leftists who beg to come on the show are the ones who do drama bait and complain about, like,

02:12:35.000 one guy is being roast, like, you know, I'm not going to name any of those people.

02:12:39.000 I'm going to find one. I'm going to find a really good one.

02:12:41.000 I'm going to help out with that mission.

02:12:43.000 I have that in my head, too.

02:12:43.000 Here's the problem. I'll tell you this.

02:12:46.000 us.

02:12:47.000 On the right, there are people with millions of followers, hundreds of thousands of influence, in the intellectual dark web.

02:12:53.000 There are people who are moderate or progressive of influence.

02:12:56.000 They're all willing to have a conversation in some capacity.

02:12:59.000 On the left, the high-profile people, in a cult, won't do it.

02:13:02.000 But the low-profile people, desperate to build up followings, will beg to come on any platform that will have them.

02:13:10.000 So there's the issue.

02:13:11.000 So is there a subscriber threshold that you're looking for or a certain... Influence.

02:13:15.000 Like mattering in the conversation.

02:13:18.000 So would it make sense if I went to a local DSA meeting and found a guy and been like, we'll put you on the show, I guess.

02:13:23.000 You're the best we could do.

02:13:25.000 You know, I want someone who they're like, this guy said these things that have an impact on the culture.

02:13:31.000 And I want those ideas to be challenged and debated.

02:13:34.000 Alex Jones is extremely influential.

02:13:35.000 Why won't anyone be like, I would gladly go on that show to do it?

02:13:40.000 There are some grifters who have a lot of followers, but their whole content base is drama.

02:13:45.000 We don't, we want, we want political conversations. 1.00

02:13:50.000 We don't want you smell bad and you're dumb. 1.00

02:13:53.000 And there are a lot of high profile people that do that. 1.00

02:13:55.000 Is that not discourse?

02:13:56.000 I mean... Someone wanting to come on the show to just sabotage the show?

02:14:00.000 I can't.

02:14:01.000 No, obviously, I was making a joke.

02:14:03.000 So, but this is how it's always been.

02:14:06.000 I have a video on my main channel from a long time ago when I was in Berkeley, and I was filming the street with my camera when, and talking to someone, when a woman forced herself in the conversation and started making a bunch of leftist points, so I turned with my camera and let her speak.

02:14:21.000 Then afterwards, I asked her some questions, And then, what I basically said was, a woman was attacked and she was off bloody.

02:14:28.000 And she goes, well, she deserved it.

02:14:29.000 You know, if she wants to come here wearing a MAGA hat, then she'll get attacked. 1.00

02:14:33.000 And I said, so you think that if a woman is wearing skimpy clothing and a man attacks her, she shouldn't have worn skimpy clothing? 0.99

02:14:38.000 And she goes, yeah.

02:14:39.000 And I was like, okay.

02:14:41.000 Five minutes later, I turn the camera off, I have the recording.

02:14:45.000 She walks over and goes, don't use any of that.

02:14:46.000 Don't put that anywhere.

02:14:48.000 And I was like, I was standing here and you started saying things to me.

02:14:51.000 I have the footage.

02:14:52.000 She's like, no, you can't use that.

02:14:54.000 They don't want their ideas.

02:14:56.000 They're scared that if they say the wrong thing, they'll get attacked.

02:15:00.000 The left will come for them because it's a cult.

02:15:02.000 Meanwhile, I can come out and argue with Glenn Beck on his show about why I'm pro-choice, and it ends with us shrugging, shaking hands, and saying, that was a really great conversation.

02:15:11.000 Thank you so much.

02:15:13.000 You don't get that on the left.

02:15:14.000 They throw eggs at you.

02:15:15.000 They scream racial slurs at people.

02:15:17.000 While wearing gorilla masks. 0.96

02:15:18.000 While wearing gorilla masks, they throw eggs at a black man and claim they're not the racist.

02:15:22.000 We'll wrap it up there.

02:15:23.000 I want to make sure we get that member segment up for you guys.

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02:16:06.000 100 tokens is like 200 bucks.

02:16:08.000 Yeah.

02:16:09.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:16:09.000 So I'm like 20k away from 200,000 followers on MindToken.

02:16:14.000 Do it.

02:16:15.000 And it's 20,000 tokens?

02:16:17.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 That's like 40 grand.

02:16:19.000 Wow.

02:16:20.000 Subscribe to Tim on Mines.

02:16:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:16:23.000 Sargon's fighting you.

02:16:25.000 Is he actively getting followers?

02:16:27.000 He's aware.

02:16:28.000 He's aware, huh?

02:16:29.000 Mines.com slash Timcast.

02:16:32.000 We could hire somebody with that.

02:16:34.000 We sure could.

02:16:34.000 Just hire somebody.

02:16:36.000 $40,000 for the year to do something, I guess.

02:16:38.000 Full stack.

02:16:39.000 Libby, you want to shout something out?

02:16:40.000 Not for $40,000 a year, though.

02:16:43.000 Hey, well, you could follow me on Mines, apparently.

02:16:45.000 Oh.

02:16:46.000 I have it.

02:16:47.000 I keep forgetting my password, but I'm going to nail that at some point.

02:16:51.000 My name's Libby Emmons.

02:16:52.000 I'm on Twitter at Libby Emmons, and I'm at the Postmillennial every day.

02:16:57.000 I am Ian Crossland, and you are sovereign.

02:17:01.000 Oh, this is good to know.

02:17:03.000 I will say before we go that I appreciate Ian's concept of not trying to divide people into groups, but I will say that there comes a point when people are dividing you against them and you don't have a choice anymore.

02:17:14.000 And if they're putting you into a group like unvaccinated or in my instance it would be something like pro-life, something they will really come after me for, I don't have a choice.

02:17:22.000 We're not on the same team.

02:17:24.000 It's unfortunate, but it's the way it is.

02:17:25.000 Anyway, for more hot takes like that, you guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

02:17:30.000 I'm only 2,000 away from outstripping Sour Patch Kids. 0.95

02:17:35.000 That's my only goal in life, so please follow me there.

02:17:37.000 That's a big one.

02:17:38.000 I'll give one final shout out to Michael Rutherford, who responded, saying, Tim, you are just as delusional as the people you hate.

02:17:46.000 I would say that I don't hate 99.999% of people.

02:17:51.000 There are journalists who work for websites like BuzzFeed and Vox and the Daily Beast and Slate who are evil people, who make things up and lie.

02:18:01.000 Now, as for the delusional thing, I'll tell you this.

02:18:05.000 When Micah Brzezinski goes on her show and says, our job is to tell people what to think, you can think whatever you want about what she said, sure.

02:18:12.000 When I can read a story from Politico that says Ukraine scrambles after aiding the Democrats in the 2016 election, and then later writes another article saying there was no meddling from Ukraine in the election, I have to wonder why Politico didn't just retract the first article and how both things can be true.

02:18:30.000 When you have four years of Russiagate that I accepted in the press and said, wow, look at this evidence.

02:18:36.000 I actually met with a very high profile journalist who told me all this stuff.

02:18:40.000 And I was like, man, it sounds like Trump did this.

02:18:42.000 And then the news comes out.

02:18:43.000 It didn't happen.

02:18:44.000 It was bunk.

02:18:45.000 It was a witch hunt, all that stuff.

02:18:47.000 The FBI report says no.

02:18:48.000 When the FBI comes out and says there was no coordinated insurrection and there was no plan, I got to say, how many times are you willing to be wrong?

02:18:54.000 Or is the fact is you don't actually research anything.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 16, 2021

Timcast IRL - New Hampshire Rep Moves To Secede From The United States w-Bill Ottman & Libby Emmons

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