Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Now 1,000 Experts Demand Joe Rogan be Censored, Gettr CEO Audio Leaks w-Christian Toto

00:00:03.000 His name is Robert Paulson.

00:00:05.000 His name was Robert Paulson.

00:00:07.000 Is Robert Paulson.

00:00:08.000 His name is Robert Paulson.

00:00:10.000 I made that mistake too.

00:00:12.000 I typed in the chat first, his name was, and then I looked up to be sure, and it's actually the line is, his name is Robert Paulson.

00:00:18.000 And of course, that is a tribute to Meatloaf, who passed away.

00:00:21.000 He was a rad dude.

00:00:23.000 He was a legendary rock star.

00:00:26.000 He was in Fight Club, and that was the reference we made to him.

00:00:29.000 And he was also pro-freedom.

00:00:31.000 He opposed the mandates.

00:00:32.000 He opposed mask mandates and vax mandates.

00:00:34.000 He stood up against them.

00:00:36.000 Apparently he criticized Greta Thunberg.

00:00:37.000 I don't know if that matters as much, but I really respect that he, you know, he was an older guy.

00:00:41.000 He was 74 and he said that he wasn't going to live his life in fear and they shouldn't shut down the world for politics and that's what they're doing.

00:00:47.000 And I respect that.

00:00:48.000 And he got seriously ill with COVID.

00:00:51.000 And that was his choice.

00:00:52.000 I'm sure you're going to get all those Herman Cain Award people, you know, laughing at him.

00:00:55.000 But these people don't understand what freedom means.

00:00:57.000 It means if I want to choose to go bungee jumping, I can choose to go bungee jumping.

00:01:01.000 There's danger.

00:01:01.000 If I want to choose to go skydiving and my shoot doesn't happen, well, I made those choices.

00:01:05.000 And Meatloaf stood up for everyone else's freedom.

00:01:07.000 He chose it for his freedom and he knew the risks.

00:01:09.000 So you know what?

00:01:10.000 Mad respect to Meatloaf.

00:01:11.000 Sad to see him go, but you know, he was 74.

00:01:13.000 So we got a bunch of other news too.

00:01:15.000 We got Joe Rogan, that hoax list where there were like 270 doctors and it turned out to be like 80 doctors and like some dentist or something.

00:01:22.000 The list is now bigger and now it's a thousand medical and science experts.

00:01:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:27.000 Okay, we'll talk about that stuff.

00:01:28.000 We'll talk about culture and censorship.

00:01:30.000 We've got two really big stories.

00:01:32.000 Joe Biden has lost another court battle.

00:01:33.000 A federal judge has struck down the federal worker mandate for vaccines.

00:01:37.000 And we have a new report from Reuters saying that Prior COVID infection provides better immunity during the... It did provide better immunity during the Delta surge, which we can then take data from that, extrapolate, and apply it to the future.

00:01:50.000 Seems like Luke was right on this one, and I was wrong, that they're gonna start easing up the mandates, but we'll see.

00:01:55.000 It's yet to be seen here in the United States, so we'll get into all this stuff.

00:01:59.000 Joining us today is Christian Toto.

00:02:02.000 You wanna introduce yourself?

00:02:02.000 Sure.

00:02:03.000 I'm the editor of HollywoodInToto.com, and my new book is called Virtue Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke and Lost its Soul.

00:02:09.000 So we can talk a lot about this cultural stuff, particularly.

00:02:12.000 I think you're an expert on that.

00:02:13.000 That'll be awesome.

00:02:14.000 We got Libby Emmons joining us tonight. 1.00

00:02:16.000 Hi, here I am.

00:02:17.000 I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial.

00:02:19.000 Glad to be back.

00:02:21.000 And uh, hey guys, my name is Lukardowsky of wearechanged.org and today I am wearing my Make America Florida shirt, which you could get on thebestpoliticalshirts.com, but I'm also wearing it because in a few days from now I will be moving to Miami, Florida and I am extremely appreciative and grateful for all of you amazing human beings a part of this broadcast and podcast.

00:02:44.000 Hopefully I could come back maybe during Uh, the spring, maybe during the fall.

00:02:48.000 We'll see, but I want to do a lot of amazing things in Florida.

00:02:52.000 I want to do some cool projects.

00:02:53.000 If you guys want to get involved with that, hit me up.

00:02:55.000 You guys know my contact information and I will definitely miss you guys and the conversations and everything we've been able to achieve here.

00:03:02.000 It's been a wild ride.

00:03:05.000 It's okay.

00:03:06.000 You know, Luke got really scared over what's been going on.

00:03:08.000 Hey, no, no, no.

00:03:09.000 He was like, guys, please, I gotta get out of here.

00:03:11.000 And we were like, come on, Luke, it'll be fine.

00:03:12.000 I was trying to leave for so long, but then the threats came, and then the swatting came.

00:03:16.000 And I was like, I can't look like a punk.

00:03:18.000 I gotta stay a little bit longer and a little bit longer.

00:03:21.000 But seriously, very appreciative of everybody and everything.

00:03:25.000 And it's going to be sad to go.

00:03:27.000 We were wrapping up a show, and then Luke goes, I'm going to be leaving right as all these threats are coming in.

00:03:31.000 People are going to think I'm scared.

00:03:33.000 I can't do that.

00:03:33.000 And then I kept postponing it.

00:03:37.000 That's part of the nature of Luke.

00:03:39.000 He migrates with the seasons.

00:03:41.000 I just wanted to clarify, I'm not going out for cigarettes.

00:03:46.000 Fair warning.

00:03:48.000 If you guys want us to maybe go down to Florida for a week or so, maybe party with Luke and do a show down there, put a five in the chat.

00:03:53.000 Five.

00:03:54.000 Put five in the chat for that one.

00:03:55.000 Smash the like button.

00:03:56.000 Smash it! 0.54

00:03:56.000 And if we get enough likes, then we'll take the new mobile studio down to Florida and we'll do a show down there for a little bit. 0.54

00:04:03.000 I like the sound of that.

00:04:04.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:04:05.000 You can follow me at iancrossland.net and I will see you soon.

00:04:07.000 I'm going to make sure to pierce those tires so you guys stay in Florida when you guys get down there because there's a lot of amazing things to do there.

00:04:14.000 Can you send a care package of freedom to Denver for me?

00:04:16.000 Yeah, I'd love to do that.

00:04:17.000 A care package of freedom?

00:04:19.000 Yes, that's how it works.

00:04:20.000 I'm also here pushing buttons in the corner.

00:04:22.000 Very excited to have Libby back, who's apparently matching Luke as he's about to head off and leave us in the distance.

00:04:27.000 Yep, I'm also wearing red.

00:04:28.000 Yes, I'm excited for tonight's conversation.

00:04:30.000 It's going to be great with Christian and Libby.

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00:05:09.000 But let's get into that first story.

00:05:10.000 We got a tweet here from NPR.

00:05:13.000 More than 1,000 scientists and health professionals are calling on Spotify to crack down on COVID falsehoods being spread on Joe Rogan's podcast.

00:05:23.000 The pressure highlights a trend.

00:05:24.000 Podcasts are becoming influential sources of misinformation.

00:05:28.000 I want to pull up the article, but I want to point out the framing technique they pulled off here from NPR.

00:05:33.000 They didn't say being spread by Joe Rogan.

00:05:36.000 They said on Joe Rogan's podcast.

00:05:39.000 What they're saying is Anybody who wants to interview someone who would say something out of line with the official establishment narrative must be stopped.

00:05:50.000 It's not about Joe Rogan as an individual.

00:05:52.000 It's about the fact that Joe would talk to someone who is considered persona non grata by the machine.

00:05:57.000 Now that is a whole new level of creepy.

00:05:59.000 If they were just saying, Joe has bad ideas.

00:06:02.000 Well, then you could be like, well, you know, he's not the expert.

00:06:04.000 He's the guy who interviews a lot of the experts.

00:06:06.000 No, no, no.

00:06:06.000 They're talking about the people he hosts and interviews.

00:06:09.000 They don't like the fact that he gives people an opportunity to speak up.

00:06:12.000 And I also want to point out the list was originally 270 people and it turned out only 87 were actually met, you know, practiced medicine.

00:06:19.000 I guess technically you could say veterinarians practice medicine and dentists do too, but some of them were like podcast hosts.

00:06:26.000 Now the list has expanded.

00:06:29.000 They say an open letter urging Spotify to crack down on COVID.

00:06:32.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:06:33.000 The medical and scientific experts slammed Rogan's track record of airing false claims.

00:06:38.000 They go on to say the list has now expanded to 1,000 people.

00:06:42.000 And you know what?

00:06:43.000 So what?

00:06:44.000 They're going after podcasts.

00:06:46.000 They're mad that this is one of the last bastions of unfettered speech, though there have been podcasts that have been banned.

00:06:53.000 Here they go.

00:06:54.000 They did it to YouTube.

00:06:55.000 They did that big adpocalypse campaign.

00:06:57.000 The media smeared them relentlessly.

00:06:59.000 Now they're going to go after all the big podcast platforms.

00:07:01.000 But this is crazy and just absolutely absurd.

00:07:04.000 I remember seeing the 270 doctors that they first put out, and it was everywhere in the corporate media.

00:07:10.000 And I was like, let me just take a look at this list.

00:07:12.000 And I saw dentist, and I saw political professor, and I saw veterinarian, I saw students, I saw political scientists.

00:07:18.000 And I'm like, wait, wait, What?

00:07:21.000 You know, these people should be, number one, ashamed of themselves because they should be challenging these ideas, not trying to silence them.

00:07:28.000 And I made a post about this and it went all throughout Twitter, specifically saying these are not practicing medical doctors.

00:07:35.000 Now there's a thousand of them.

00:07:36.000 I haven't checked the list, but I still remember being publicly attacked by a gynecologist on Twitter who was on that list being like, He's calling me out.

00:07:45.000 He's trying to, you know, blur the lines here.

00:07:48.000 He's trying to spread misinformation.

00:07:49.000 No, we're not.

00:07:50.000 You could counter the information.

00:07:52.000 You don't have to silence it.

00:07:53.000 And when you type in Joe Rogan into Google News right now, you get nothing but smear pieces, attack pieces that literally look like they almost come from the Chinese Cultural Revolution with double-speak Orwellian language.

00:08:05.000 Yahoo News has an article, The Problem with Joe Rogan and White Boys.

00:08:09.000 The Independent.

00:08:10.000 These experts say Joe Rogan is an extraordinary, Danger to society.

00:08:16.000 Here's why.

00:08:17.000 NPR, of course, has more blamed articles about online misinformation.

00:08:21.000 Again, counter the data.

00:08:23.000 Dr. Robert Malone has a lot of credentials.

00:08:26.000 He listed his credentials.

00:08:28.000 He is someone who was an extremely important part to this entire process that the world is going through with this larger experiment.

00:08:35.000 Challenge his ideas.

00:08:37.000 Don't take out his tongue.

00:08:39.000 Because when you do that, you prove him right.

00:08:41.000 Look at this one from NJ.com.

00:08:42.000 The long list of things I will not be asking Joe Rogan for advice about.

00:08:46.000 And it's got Fauci.

00:08:47.000 He says, I've been an infectious disease expert for 50 years.

00:08:50.000 And then Joe Rogan saying, I get kicked in the head for fun.

00:08:53.000 Yeah. 0.91

00:08:53.000 Okay. 0.91

00:08:54.000 Not anymore.

00:08:54.000 He quit kickboxing.

00:08:56.000 But it's just so stupid. 0.99

00:08:59.000 Anybody who's ever actually listened to his show know that he's an inquisitive guy who asks questions of experts. 1.00

00:09:03.000 That's it.

00:09:04.000 If they really wanted to play games, they could show Fauci and then they could show Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone.

00:09:10.000 That would be really interesting.

00:09:12.000 Fauci would be like, I'm a bureaucrat of the past 40 years.

00:09:14.000 And Malone would be like, I invented mRNA vaccines.

00:09:16.000 How about that one?

00:09:18.000 But they shut down Malone.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, there's another thing about this though, which is, this is what happens to any new media.

00:09:24.000 You remember the blogosphere?

00:09:26.000 Do you guys remember the blogosphere?

00:09:27.000 I remember the blogosphere.

00:09:28.000 Yeah, so this was like, it was a while, it was like the, in the early 2000s, all of these blogs were popping up and people were getting their news from blogs.

00:09:36.000 And so you had mainstream media outlets, corporate media outlets slamming the blogosphere, like I believe the press secretary at the White House actually used that term.

00:09:46.000 Saying, you know, you can't trust these sources.

00:09:48.000 These are terrible sources.

00:09:49.000 That's exactly what they're doing now to podcasters.

00:09:51.000 They don't like anyone that gets more popular than their own, you know, corporate media outlets.

00:09:57.000 That's why, you know, that's why it's so important.

00:09:59.000 Wasn't PJ Media like pajamas media?

00:10:01.000 Wasn't that the slam against the bloggers?

00:10:02.000 Like they were just in their pajamas at home and that's why you can't trust them.

00:10:05.000 Right.

00:10:06.000 And they could have embraced it.

00:10:08.000 I'm not joking.

00:10:09.000 Those were terrifying photos.

00:10:09.000 It's real.

00:10:11.000 I no longer wear pajamas personally.

00:10:12.000 I cover late night TV, and late night TV gets so many facts wrong on such a consistent basis.

00:10:18.000 Where are the lineup of doctors saying that Stephen Colbert is full of it?

00:10:23.000 Where are they?

00:10:23.000 Did you see Colbert call for abolishing the Senate?

00:10:26.000 Yeah, that was weird.

00:10:26.000 He was like, what's the point?

00:10:28.000 He's like, the Democrats represent more people, and it's like, represent does not mean they agree with them.

00:10:33.000 That's, that's, that's, it's just, it's fascinating.

00:10:36.000 They don't like their, their machine being challenged.

00:10:39.000 That's, that's the obvious point.

00:10:40.000 But they're losing.

00:10:41.000 And that's why I love the Joe Rogan subject matter, because Joe's winning and doesn't care.

00:10:46.000 You know what's really funny?

00:10:48.000 I feel like Joe's sitting on the throne of Biggest Podcast, doing his thing, and then mainstream media and us are just down on the ground bickering to each other and complaining about it, and Joe just doesn't care.

00:11:00.000 How long will Spotify have its back, though?

00:11:02.000 I think that's the big question.

00:11:04.000 Uh, what's two years?

00:11:04.000 I think that'll be average age of, of, of contracts, you know, and then once it's up, they're going to be like, but, uh, I actually be making a lot of money from him though.

00:11:13.000 Oh yeah.

00:11:13.000 The company was valued over a billion dollars.

00:11:16.000 The stock skyrocketed as soon as he came on the platform.

00:11:19.000 Yeah, I was kind of bummed because, you know, I was like, when I knew that the shift was going to be happening, I was like, man, I should have bought all that Spotify stuff.

00:11:28.000 Because it just skyrocketed.

00:11:29.000 I didn't even think about it, to be honest.

00:11:30.000 In reference to Stephen Colbert saying that we should abolish the Senate or whatever he was saying, it was weird because he was like, the Senate is the most anti-democratic thing.

00:11:37.000 But what he doesn't seem to understand is we're not a democracy.

00:11:39.000 We're a democratic republic.

00:11:41.000 And the Senate is the essence of the republic.

00:11:43.000 It's a stopgap for democratic mob mentality. 0.99

00:11:46.000 Stephen Colbert is Emperor Palpatine.

00:11:49.000 That's giving him too much credit though.

00:11:50.000 But not as funny as the Emperor.

00:11:52.000 Right.

00:11:52.000 It would have been funnier if when he called for abolishing the Senate, he just like his voice changed.

00:11:56.000 He'll be dissolving the Galactic Senate!

00:11:59.000 I mean the Federal Republic Senate.

00:12:01.000 He's the jester.

00:12:01.000 Klaus Schwab is the real Emperor Palpatine in my opinion with everything he's been pushing forward with the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.

00:12:08.000 But again, Joe Rogan is as popular as he is because he comes off as very genuine, very honest.

00:12:14.000 He has conversations that a lot of people are afraid to even think about.

00:12:18.000 And he entertains ideas in a way that's not forced upon you, in a way that is naturally understood and just talked about in a rational way, rather than, of course, PR corporate talking points.

00:12:31.000 And that's why he is where he is right now.

00:12:34.000 I think Joe represents a regular person.

00:12:37.000 Fauci does not.

00:12:38.000 No.

00:12:38.000 For the longest time, there's been this conversation around like citizen journalists, and it's

00:12:42.000 really funny because people don't know what it means.

00:12:44.000 Citizen journalism referenced somebody would be walking their dog and then see something

00:12:47.000 happen and then film it.

00:12:49.000 And that's what it means.

00:12:50.000 You're a citizen who happens to commit an act of journalism, but people who specifically

00:12:53.000 try to engage in journalism are not citizen journalists.

00:12:56.000 But the conversation around that was basically, why should we trust these individuals?

00:13:00.000 And a lot of people said, well, look, the suit on TV talking to you as the authority

00:13:04.000 doesn't work anymore.

00:13:06.000 People have trust in themselves, and they want to talk to trusted people.

00:13:10.000 They don't trust foreign, you know, like. 1.00

00:13:13.000 Outside of their life, I mean.

00:13:14.000 Kind of establishment elites.

00:13:16.000 They want a regular person they can feel like their neighbor who can talk to them.

00:13:20.000 So Fauci represents the establishment elite of, we're smarter than you and we know it. 0.99

00:13:24.000 And Joe represents, hey man, don't listen to me, I'm an idiot, but I just got some questions. 0.87

00:13:28.000 But there was this great clip going around, I think James Lindsay shared it, from the World Economic Forum in November, and it was this lady talking about how the elites all are banding together internationally and are working together to get their agenda across, but that in each country individually, the lower classes don't trust the elites. 0.74

00:13:50.000 She was talking about this as though this is some big problem.

00:13:53.000 The rest of us don't trust our elites, you know.

00:13:56.000 We don't trust these people who are telling us what to do based on their own international conglomeration of, you know, ideology and wealth hoarding.

00:14:05.000 Real quick, I hate the elites.

00:14:08.000 Not every single person, you know, it's not absolute, but just like Fauci and Biden and the

00:14:14.000 Uniparty and Mitch McConnell's in there, these establishment, these ultra wealthy, I just...

00:14:19.000 I'm dying to say something because they're literally calling themselves the elites.

00:14:23.000 I love that.

00:14:24.000 They're like, we're the elites. Our pack got closer.

00:14:28.000 We're a lot closer, but everyone else doesn't like us.

00:14:31.000 Gee, you wonder why, as of course we literally went through an entire situation. 0.54

00:14:36.000 Why are you putting that madman in front of me? 0.99

00:14:39.000 Dead dog torturer. 1.00

00:14:40.000 I don't want to be seen with that man.

00:14:42.000 But they are literally in a situation where they have profited off tremendously off of this entire pandemic.

00:14:49.000 They have created a situation where the rich are becoming richer than they ever have before, and they wonder, Why don't they trust us?

00:14:57.000 And of course, their circle got tighter.

00:14:59.000 And what's really surprising about the World Economic Forum, they literally put out all of their plans right in front of you.

00:15:05.000 They write about it.

00:15:06.000 They boast about it.

00:15:07.000 They said it straight out.

00:15:08.000 They discussed the Great Reset in detail.

00:15:11.000 And then as soon as we all started writing about like, oh, y'all, have you seen this plan?

00:15:15.000 This is crazy plan.

00:15:16.000 The fact checkers swooped in and started saying that this wasn't actually real.

00:15:20.000 And it's like, look at this!

00:15:25.000 They literally just reverted New World Order into the Great Reset.

00:15:33.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:15:34.000 Let's be honest with it.

00:15:36.000 And they figured we'd all be such plebs that we wouldn't actually notice. 0.69

00:15:39.000 We can't actually read.

00:15:40.000 They rebranded the New World Order and still put out all of their documents. 0.67

00:15:44.000 We're like the medieval Catholics who don't understand Latin.

00:15:46.000 No!

00:15:47.000 We know what it says.

00:15:47.000 They literally try to make You eat bugs!

00:15:49.000 There's like short little videos that they put out on Twitter saying eating bugs is going to be great and save the world!

00:15:55.000 So check this out, check this out.

00:15:57.000 On January 20th, I was on Twitter and the What's Happening page popped up with, The Great Reset is the World Economic Forum's proposal for post-COVID economic recovery, Reuters and the BBC report.

00:16:08.000 And I just screen-grabbed it and put LOL.

00:16:10.000 I thought it was funny.

00:16:11.000 They keep trying to do this thing where they're like, the Great Reset, it's just this, it's just that.

00:16:17.000 The funny thing is, it reminds me of when Hillary Clinton was campaigning and she put on a Southern drawl when she did.

00:16:23.000 And like, she didn't realize the internet existed and that human beings talk to each other.

00:16:28.000 It's pretty old.

00:16:28.000 So what's fascinating about the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, the Davos Group, is I feel like it's a bunch of 80-year-olds who are like, how are people finding out about our plan, the Great great reset. It's like have those social media, what just

00:16:41.000 tell everyone what to believe. And then regular people look at it and go, yeah, that's, that's

00:16:47.000 BS. Like we're not cows or you know what I mean? We don't, we don't just get told

00:16:51.000 something and go, Oh, but it really, it really is it when Hillary Clinton put, she put on that

00:16:56.000 Southern dialect because she thought she was going to trick people into thinking that

00:16:59.000 she was from the South or whatever.

00:17:01.000 I get it.

00:17:01.000 She is.

00:17:02.000 But she doesn't talk that way.

00:17:03.000 She was a New York senator. 0.50

00:17:04.000 And then the video goes viral and everyone made fun of her and laughed.

00:17:08.000 And then she was like, how did I lose?

00:17:10.000 It's humorous and elitist thinking that they're above everyone else and therefore they could get away with it.

00:17:16.000 This is why the Pope, Trudeau, Macron, Biden, Kamala, all the world leaders have been saying the same thing.

00:17:23.000 We need a great reset.

00:17:24.000 We need to build back better.

00:17:25.000 They slowly and calmly tell you that this is their plan openly, and you're deemed a conspiracy theorist for even bringing it up and talking about it when their plans are laid out and they're implementing it right in front of our eyes.

00:17:37.000 There's no hiding it.

00:17:39.000 It's right here.

00:17:39.000 Yeah, what they mean is we need to solidify our power.

00:17:42.000 Exactly.

00:17:43.000 That's what they mean.

00:17:43.000 I want to give them some credit.

00:17:44.000 There's so little self-awareness in our culture these days.

00:17:48.000 Calling themselves the elite.

00:17:49.000 I'm very impressed by that.

00:17:51.000 That is cool.

00:17:51.000 Someone referred to them as elitist.

00:17:54.000 Was that you?

00:17:55.000 I wasn't there, but they were like, based, Tim, calling them elitist and not elite.

00:17:59.000 But I wasn't there if he said that.

00:18:01.000 But it was, the video is actually really funny when this woman, where was she? 0.82

00:18:04.000 At the World Economic Forum?

00:18:06.000 And she's like the elites.

00:18:07.000 She's like referring to herself in that way.

00:18:09.000 And it's just like, there's one way not to endure yourself in regular people.

00:18:13.000 Then she opened up her blouse and there was an E on there.

00:18:16.000 It's like a Globo gym from Dodgeball.

00:18:19.000 We're better than you!

00:18:20.000 And we know it!

00:18:22.000 I saw a tweet from Clint Russell, Liberty Lockpot, if you'd stop referring to yourself as our elites I'd hate you at least 10% less.

00:18:28.000 And I was like, how bad could it be?

00:18:31.000 It was worse than I thought it was going to be.

00:18:33.000 You know, it's funny though, I feel like It's the children of the previous generation's elites.

00:18:39.000 And they say that, you know, wealth only lasts a few generations.

00:18:41.000 So you end up with these, like, the robber barons and stuff.

00:18:44.000 And then over time, they have kids who have kids.

00:18:47.000 And now we have this global elite that are kind of like the inbred royalty who don't really know how to run a system.

00:18:53.000 So they've inherited all of this.

00:18:55.000 They never earned it.

00:18:55.000 They never fought for it.

00:18:57.000 And it's like they're going through their own fourth turning.

00:18:59.000 Where the great-grandchildren of these past billionaires and millionaires and powerful royals and politicos have no idea what they're doing, but they just know they're better than you.

00:19:12.000 I think we have to really realize that nobody really knows what they're doing.

00:19:16.000 I went to prep school with a lot of really smart people who have no idea what they're doing, and they're running the country now.

00:19:22.000 That's terrible.

00:19:22.000 What's the point of being here anyway, being a human?

00:19:25.000 I still don't know.

00:19:27.000 That was a huge leap, Ian.

00:19:29.000 It's like, there's problems with our country.

00:19:31.000 Why am I alive?

00:19:31.000 I know survival is like part of it, but other than that, what's the point?

00:19:35.000 I mean, this is why, you know, a lot of people say that religion is very necessary to a culture, to a society, because there are a lot of people right now that have no purpose, and they're asking the same question you are, but They're being given answers by the elites who want to control and shape everything, and so they're telling them things.

00:19:52.000 They're telling them crazy things.

00:19:54.000 And then when these people go out and riot and burn things down, they're protected.

00:19:57.000 So they've found their meaning.

00:19:58.000 They've found their purpose.

00:19:59.000 But, you know, the crazy thing about it, they have their purported purpose.

00:20:03.000 You know, with these Black Lives Matter groups or Antifa, we've got to fight against oppression.

00:20:08.000 I'm concerned about the kids wearing masks, talking about a lost generation. 0.99

00:20:09.000 yourself what's next? What's after that? What do you do? It's like these

00:20:13.000 individuals are just lost, a lost generation, and that's where the chaos is 1.00

00:20:16.000 coming from, but it's being weaponized by the elites who want to dramatically

00:20:19.000 reshape the planet. I'm concerned about the kids wearing masks talking about a 1.00

00:20:22.000 lost generation because if I'd been raised not seeing facial expression that

00:20:25.000 would have been a hard thing to navigate. I know and you're bad enough.

00:20:28.000 I know!

00:20:29.000 I'm already semi-weird.

00:20:30.000 But Ian, the elites want to party in a way where their servants are clearly marked and masked and represented by, of course, the face diapers that they wear.

00:20:41.000 While, of course, the ruling elites get to have their galas and their lovely red carpets where they get to be free and not have to wear face diapers.

00:20:48.000 Well, Christian and I were just talking about this because both of us have, you know, send our kids to school and the kids are fully masked.

00:20:55.000 That's crazy.

00:20:55.000 Outdoors too.

00:20:56.000 I have to actually tell my kid, I do this waving of the face as soon as I see him.

00:20:59.000 Take the mask off.

00:21:00.000 Me too.

00:21:01.000 Adam Corolla has a theory about this.

00:21:02.000 He says it's crate training.

00:21:03.000 You're crate training the young kids to kind of obey.

00:21:08.000 I'm not going to screw with that.

00:21:09.000 Give me something else.

00:21:12.000 When we get to school in the morning, you know, I say to my son, like, yeah, you know, you got to put your thing and he's like, okay, time for my complicity covering. 0.98

00:21:21.000 You know, we joke about it because I want him to know that it's stupid the whole time. 0.99

00:21:25.000 I want him to fully be aware of how stupid it is every second that he's wearing it. 1.00

00:21:29.000 And yeah, as soon as he's done with school, I'm like, get that stupid thing off your face. 1.00

00:21:33.000 A couple days ago, I posted a meme of, you know, students that were told to be six feet apart. 1.00

00:21:38.000 There was a police officer looking over them.

00:21:39.000 They were outside with a mask.

00:21:41.000 And then the tagline was like, this is how you make someone a slave.

00:21:44.000 This is how you raise someone not to think independently, how to literally act like they're in prisons.

00:21:49.000 And that's what they're doing in schools.

00:21:50.000 I would absolutely recommend for you guys to try to do anything you can.

00:21:55.000 I mean, both of you guys are in New York City.

00:21:56.000 No, no.

00:21:57.000 I'm in Denver.

00:22:01.000 But there's probably other families that feel like you that would want to create a homeschooling pod network that would actually help your kids so much more.

00:22:08.000 Because I feel so bad for these kids that have to go through this.

00:22:11.000 But you know what really bothers me?

00:22:13.000 We used to see people from Southeast Asia, they wear masks when they're sick. 1.00

00:22:18.000 And I'm like, I like that idea.

00:22:20.000 If you're sick and you know it, and you have to go out and do stuff, you wear a mask.

00:22:24.000 Now the problem I see is people aren't sick, but they're all just blindly doing this thing.

00:22:30.000 And then what that creates is it polarizes.

00:22:33.000 We have a hyperpolarization now where there are people who are overtly anti-mask.

00:22:37.000 And I'm just like, yo man, if you get sick, you put a mask on.

00:22:41.000 If you're not sick, you don't, I guess.

00:22:44.000 But we're struggling to have the nuanced conversations about what makes sense.

00:22:48.000 Anybody who questions the mandate, for instance, on vaccines is anti-vaxxer.

00:22:52.000 When, like, clearly everybody is pro-vaccine, you know, except for, like, there's many people who aren't.

00:22:57.000 But there are people who have specific questions about something specific.

00:23:00.000 The nuance is stripped out of it.

00:23:01.000 And I think it's on purpose.

00:23:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:03.000 They want to make you an extremist. 1.00

00:23:05.000 You say, hey, this policy for kids is dumb. 1.00

00:23:07.000 Well, then you're a you're a dumb redneck anti-masker. 1.00

00:23:09.000 But here's the thing about making you an extremist, right? 1.00

00:23:11.000 I mean, you have the Biden administration going after domestic terrorists, right?

00:23:15.000 They made this their like a big Department of Justice thing.

00:23:20.000 And when you look at what they're going after, they're saying that if you are anti-government

00:23:25.000 or anti-authority, then you are some sort of extremist.

00:23:29.000 These are the terms that are being used, anti-government, anti-authority, extremist.

00:23:34.000 I saw a bunch of things that were like white supremacist, anti-government extremist.

00:23:40.000 And it's like, what is this about? 0.78

00:23:42.000 OK, so white supremacy, that's bad.

00:23:45.000 Sure, obviously.

00:23:46.000 Anti-government?

00:23:49.000 So if you're opposed to the existing power structure, that makes you some sort of extremist?

00:23:55.000 Remember Resist, which erupted in 2017?

00:23:57.000 It was pretty cool and pretty mainstream.

00:24:00.000 Yeah, you had to resist everything the man said for four years.

00:24:04.000 And you weren't supposed to look into the policies.

00:24:07.000 You weren't supposed to understand what was being proposed.

00:24:09.000 Last time I checked, he was in the government.

00:24:12.000 Yes, and you were just supposed to be entirely opposed.

00:24:14.000 You see that story about the guy who needed a kidney and because he didn't get vaxxed that they told him, like, guess you'll die.

00:24:20.000 That was the craziest thing.

00:24:22.000 You know, I was just like this, the lady on the phone, pure evil, like evil incarnate.

00:24:28.000 You thought it was going to be like a giant demonic man with horns and a business suit being like, I am the antichrist.

00:24:34.000 No, it's the lady at the hospital who's like, I know you need a heart, but for reasons we don't care why, you know, you decided not to get the vaccine.

00:24:42.000 So you'll die now.

00:24:44.000 It's like, Or that lady in Texas who the guy was recording saying, you don't qualify to take this vaccine.

00:24:52.000 Sorry, sorry, not this vaccine.

00:24:53.000 You don't qualify for this antibody treatment because of, you know, the race, ethnicity.

00:24:58.000 And then the media claimed it wasn't true.

00:25:00.000 That's true in like half a dozen states.

00:25:04.000 And it was part of the part of the FDA directive, I believe.

00:25:08.000 One thing I loved was Maud Marin in New York.

00:25:10.000 She was running for city council but she recently posted on Twitter she was having some design work done in her house and an architect showed up to her house and asked her to wear a mask and Maud said no and you're fired.

00:25:24.000 Get out of my house.

00:25:25.000 We're done here.

00:25:27.000 You know I wouldn't want that person working on my house either.

00:25:29.000 People have lost it, man.

00:25:31.000 You brought up that Department of Justice statement.

00:25:34.000 I saw James Lindsay and Joe Rogan talking about it.

00:25:36.000 It was kind of convoluted in like two paragraphs.

00:25:39.000 Have you seen that, Tim?

00:25:40.000 Do you know what she's talking about?

00:25:41.000 The Department of Justice?

00:25:42.000 Let me pull it up.

00:25:43.000 It's like a statement defining who now is considered dangerous.

00:25:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they said, like, anti-capitalists.

00:25:51.000 And then, yeah, I think Glenn Greenwald tweeted something.

00:25:53.000 It's actually a while ago.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:55.000 And so they were like, hey, Left, you've all cheered for this and celebrated.

00:25:58.000 It's you!

00:25:59.000 And then they posted the list, and it was like, anarchists and anti-capitalists, you know, are considered violent, dangerous extremists.

00:26:05.000 And then there's, like, patriots or whatever. 0.97

00:26:07.000 So it's like, yo, look, man, they may like the fact that they can use Antifa as useful idiots to wreak havoc and cause panic and destroy things, and they can rebuild. 0.93

00:26:16.000 But, rest assured, they will come for Antifa when it becomes convenient for them or when Antifa is truly inconvenient. 0.95

00:26:23.000 Or when they're done with them.

00:26:24.000 When they fulfill their agenda, when they got rid of everything else, they're going to be looking like the nail for the hammer that they created.

00:26:31.000 It's only a matter of time and the deep intelligence state has the information, is track tracing and databasing all of these people.

00:26:39.000 We learned that they even have drones that they're flying over protests.

00:26:42.000 They have dragnet surveillance telephone technology that literally gets all the information from people's phones at protests They have all of their data.

00:26:50.000 They have all of their information.

00:26:51.000 They have all of their networks and Why wouldn't they be collecting it when of course you have the state that that throughout history?

00:27:01.000 Yeah, so it was a it was a testimony before the Senate and it was I think Matthew Olson who is the Assistant Attorney General perhaps He said domestic violent extremists are often motivated by ideology and personal grievances.

00:27:16.000 We've seen a growing threat from those who are motivated by racial animus as well as those who ascribe to anti-government, anti-authority ideologies.

00:27:26.000 Anti-authority.

00:27:27.000 Which is kind of the basis for the entire United States.

00:27:31.000 We are anti-authority.

00:27:33.000 That's like half our deal at least.

00:27:35.000 Weren't the Ghostbusters anti-authority, too?

00:27:36.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:27:37.000 But is Antifa pro-authority?

00:27:39.000 I mean, I would say yes.

00:27:41.000 But do they think they are?

00:27:42.000 So are they listening to that going like, hey, we're cool?

00:27:44.000 And he also said today, investigating and prosecuting domestic violent extremists is one of our top priorities on the front lines. 0.96

00:27:51.000 This is only because there aren't enough white nationalists and white supremacists.

00:27:54.000 They have to cast them that way. 0.93

00:27:56.000 They've got a short supply, sadly.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, it has to be everything.

00:27:59.000 It has to be whatever they can find.

00:28:00.000 They have a budget for arresting dissent that are going to need some dissent.

00:28:03.000 That's right, they've got to meet the budget.

00:28:05.000 At some point in there, they said, like, if you want to criticize the government, it may not be considered terrorism because it's considered First Amendment protection.

00:28:14.000 The word may.

00:28:16.000 It may not be considered terrorism.

00:28:18.000 That was very confusing.

00:28:19.000 My friends, in 20 years, everyone's gonna be like four and a half feet tall, androgynous, holding hands with squeaky voices, and that's gonna be humanity, because like, they're just shaving off the tall grass.

00:28:31.000 Everyone, it's like, it's eroding so quickly.

00:28:33.000 You know, people don't realize this, but there's been several cases that I've tweeted about, talked about, where people have been charged with hate crimes for speech, or for like, bordering on speech, you know.

00:28:45.000 There was a one case where someone took a pride flag and then I guess they like burned it and threw it in front of a gay bar and said, oh, that was that was hateful harassment or something like that.

00:28:53.000 And it's like nobody was no one was there.

00:28:56.000 No one watched it happen.

00:28:56.000 Nobody was directly harmed by it.

00:28:58.000 It's kind of a dick move in my opinion.

00:28:59.000 The guy got charged with a hate crime for doing it. 0.98

00:29:01.000 I'm like, that's kind of crazy.

00:29:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:04.000 But that's that's where we're moving and we're getting there was a Two people were on the New York train, the Long Island Railroad, and they were shouting things about foreigners and then threw a beer can at someone and they went, Aha!

00:29:17.000 Throwing that beer can and saying that?

00:29:18.000 Now it's a hate crime!

00:29:19.000 And you get a very serious charge for that.

00:29:22.000 So they're starting to incorporate hate speech into making it illegal.

00:29:26.000 And a lot of people 10 years ago were saying that the goal of the left is to make it so hate speech would be completely illegal.

00:29:32.000 There are many proponents who have pushed saying that it should be illegal and now we're seeing aggravated charges on people for, you know, speaking things that are offensive.

00:29:40.000 It has to be associated with a crime though in the U.S.

00:29:42.000 whereas in other countries like in Canada... What was the crime of throwing a rainbow flag in front of a bar?

00:29:47.000 Well, they have to call it a crime of some sort.

00:29:49.000 Right, but like... Arson?

00:29:50.000 Burning property?

00:29:51.000 But it was their property.

00:29:52.000 It was someone bought a flag, burned it in front of a building, and they said it was like harassment.

00:29:56.000 So they make up the crime to fit how they can turn it into hate speech or something.

00:30:00.000 And what's happening in Canada and the UK already with these existing laws is so worrying.

00:30:05.000 I remember walking around in the United Kingdom doing interviews about English people not having the First Amendment, would they want the First Amendment?

00:30:15.000 And I ran into a person who had his whole life ruined, was thrown in jail, had to face court proceedings because he called someone a bloke.

00:30:23.000 And this person that he called a bloke was someone that identified as something else, but because he did it offhandedly, he literally was sent to jail.

00:30:31.000 Shout out to Zuby!

00:30:32.000 That's happened to a bunch of people.

00:30:33.000 Shout out to Zuby who said, okay dude.

00:30:36.000 It was okay dude, right?

00:30:36.000 That's what he said.

00:30:37.000 And he got suspended on Twitter for saying it.

00:30:40.000 Or Megan Murphy who said that Jessica Yaniv was him.

00:30:44.000 You know, she, I think she got banned for saying, yeah, him.

00:30:47.000 That was her whole tweet.

00:30:49.000 Shout out to Zuby for getting his visa, American visa.

00:30:51.000 He's going to be around a lot more now.

00:30:53.000 Nice job, dude.

00:30:55.000 Sorry to derail the conversation.

00:30:59.000 I missed the ACLU 1.0.

00:31:01.000 That's what we needed.

00:31:03.000 I missed that too.

00:31:03.000 What happened?

00:31:04.000 A change of leadership?

00:31:05.000 I can tell you what happened.

00:31:06.000 So when Donald Trump got elected, they made a ton of money off of the Muslim ban, as it was called.

00:31:14.000 Now, it included Venezuela, you know, and some other countries, but, you know, the left called the Muslim ban.

00:31:19.000 And the ACLU said, Trump, you can't do this.

00:31:20.000 It's unconstitutional.

00:31:22.000 The interesting thing was that the banning of travel from these countries is actually advice from the Obama administration, but that doesn't matter.

00:31:27.000 So everybody protests.

00:31:29.000 The ACLU announces they're filing a lawsuit to stop this.

00:31:32.000 And then all the leftists are like, yeah!

00:31:33.000 And they sign up for the ACLU.

00:31:34.000 And the ACLU is like, we're making bank, baby!

00:31:37.000 And then Charlottesville happened.

00:31:39.000 And the ACLU defended the right to organize.

00:31:43.000 And then everyone said, you made this happen.

00:31:46.000 You defended it.

00:31:46.000 And they were like, but we've always defended free speech for everyone.

00:31:49.000 And the left started canceling in droves.

00:31:51.000 So they came out and said, we're going to reassess what free speech means.

00:31:55.000 And now the ACLU is the anti-civil liberties union, because in many, many cases, they have come out overtly against civil rights.

00:32:03.000 And I'm not exaggerating.

00:32:04.000 They sure have, over and over again.

00:32:05.000 It's crazy.

00:32:06.000 I was shocked.

00:32:06.000 But didn't they complain this week about...

00:32:07.000 Hey, money talks, baby. 0.95

00:32:08.000 There was some sort of transparency, educational policy that was discussed.

00:32:11.000 Oh, this is a great idea, this transparency in education.

00:32:14.000 Right, and they were against it.

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 So he was against it.

00:32:17.000 But here's the thing about this.

00:32:18.000 So education is now a national issue.

00:32:20.000 That's what the left wanted this whole time.

00:32:22.000 They got it.

00:32:23.000 Parents are super involved in kids' education.

00:32:26.000 That's what the left has wanted this whole time.

00:32:28.000 Parents are saying, let's have transparency.

00:32:30.000 Let's see what the syllabus is.

00:32:31.000 That's all it is.

00:32:32.000 Let's see what the syllabus is before the year starts.

00:32:35.000 That way we know what's going on.

00:32:36.000 That way we can help our kids.

00:32:38.000 We can know what's happening in their classroom.

00:32:40.000 We can know what they're learning.

00:32:41.000 And for some reason the teachers unions are all against this.

00:32:46.000 They've been demanding for decades, parents we need more parental involvement.

00:32:49.000 And now parents are like, hi!

00:32:51.000 We're here!

00:32:51.000 We'd really like to be involved!

00:32:53.000 And they're all just like, you know what?

00:32:54.000 You know, back off.

00:32:55.000 Okay?

00:32:55.000 That's just not safe for your kids.

00:32:57.000 It's just not okay.

00:32:58.000 Parents do not have a right to be involved.

00:33:00.000 And we all know why.

00:33:01.000 Leftists don't have kids.

00:33:02.000 They have yours.

00:33:03.000 Right.

00:33:04.000 Like the, what is it?

00:33:05.000 Melissa Harris Perry?

00:33:06.000 Did you guys see that?

00:33:07.000 That was an older clip that resurfaced. I think I'm still chilling. It's crazy. She was saying basically the kids are

00:33:13.000 not yours What's the exact saying kids are not yours?

00:33:15.000 They belong to all of us and we need to stop thinking that kids belong to their parents

00:33:20.000 You ever see that communist?

00:33:21.000 You know who kids belong to their parents Especially when they get hurt or any decisions need to be

00:33:25.000 made But they need to be indoctrinated then they belong to

00:33:27.000 everybody ever seen that meme where it's like It's the Drake meme where it's my and our and and so it

00:33:33.000 like it shows shows him like going like that It'll say like, you know my car and then under it says our

00:33:38.000 car and he's like, yeah, so it's like my kids No our kids. All right

00:33:42.000 I love my favorite one was our little pony 20.

00:33:47.000 And like they put a sickle and hammer next to it and everything.

00:33:49.000 Yo, these people, I don't know if communist is the right word.

00:33:52.000 No, it's not.

00:33:55.000 Look, what people need to understand about fascism and communism is that these were ideologies of the early 1900s.

00:34:01.000 We're in a new digital information age and what we're experiencing is something different.

00:34:05.000 Maybe you can call it techno-communism or, you know, tech authoritarianism or something, but it needs a new word.

00:34:12.000 Yeah, this is another thing James and Joe were talking about, and I promise I'm not going to keep bringing it up, but watch that episode if you haven't seen it yet, about how it's like fascism and communism blended, and it's 21st century, it's new.

00:34:28.000 What Klaus Schwab's trying to do with blending corporations and governments together is basically the definition of Mussolini's fascism, that's what he called it.

00:34:37.000 But it's so different now that they can spy on everything and cut off bank accounts globally that it's another kind of techno threat.

00:34:45.000 It's not necessarily communism.

00:34:47.000 It's not necessarily fascism.

00:34:49.000 It is authoritarian.

00:34:51.000 But the thing about fascism is that it was cultural enforcement.

00:34:55.000 Communism was just, they just took over and they'd point guns at you.

00:34:58.000 It was much more authoritarian and they would steal food and it was just like...

00:35:03.000 The whole system was one thing.

00:35:05.000 With fascism, basically, I was reading this article about how the Nazis weren't really socialists, but kind of were, because people often say, oh, it means national socialist.

00:35:15.000 What would happen is that they would go to a factory and say, are you producing for the war effort?

00:35:21.000 And if the guy at the factory said, no, we're producing for demand, they'd be like, why do you oppose our efforts?

00:35:27.000 And they'd be like, no, no, no, we'll do it.

00:35:29.000 Basically cancel culture.

00:35:30.000 The idea that if you didn't fall in line with cultural enforcement, and cultural enforcement is more powerful than government.

00:35:36.000 So that's the thing about, you know, the fascistic method.

00:35:40.000 Now, I guess back then, there was a big dividing ideology.

00:35:43.000 The communists wanted to erase culture.

00:35:45.000 They wanted to purge it and wipe it clean.

00:35:47.000 And the fascists want traditionalism.

00:35:49.000 So what we're seeing today is techno-authoritarian communism, or whatever you'd call it.

00:35:54.000 I don't know.

00:35:55.000 It all boils down to the evils of centralization and the idea that you could control people from top down.

00:36:00.000 That idea, I think, is one of the most destructive ideas throughout all of human history and whatever you label it, whatever you call it, it goes against the basic principles of free humanity and that, of course, is liberty.

00:36:12.000 And decentralization.

00:36:13.000 Decentralization right now, if you look at a lot of problems in this world, could solve all of them in an extensive way that would reduce a lot of harm and help a lot of people out because it would stop the bastardization of power that absolutely corrupts individuals.

00:36:30.000 I think that's one way that we should start framing it and looking at it because, you know, to have this larger idea that that one person, one king should control your life and your existence has already fallen by the wayside.

00:36:44.000 Now, another idea that hopefully progressively is going to be destroyed is that a president or an autocrat or a corporate head is going to be controlling your life.

00:36:54.000 And I think the more we move away from those ideas, the more we move towards freedom, the more humans will prosper and grow.

00:36:59.000 I got it.

00:37:00.000 Hear me out.

00:37:02.000 What if you run for president and when you win, you get four years, you can run again for a second term.

00:37:11.000 And if you lose or you complete a second term, we execute you.

00:37:20.000 Logan's run secret, but but anybody who wants to be president knows that they're not going to actually be Benefited in the long term that this is the end you've decided because you you know Then you get someone who's in their 60s, and they're like I've lived a long life I have some ideas, and I think this is the end for me I'm gonna do a bunch of things that I think will make everything better for you, and then I'm out I'm actually I'm actually kidding.

00:37:40.000 I don't really think we should execute people who, you know, I said.

00:37:42.000 It's like a Star Trek episode where the guy who played, uh, the guy who played Winchester

00:37:45.000 on MASH ends up falling in love with, uh, Deanna Troi's mom.

00:37:48.000 Do you remember that one?

00:37:49.000 That's right. 0.89

00:37:50.000 And then it's a society where at a certain age they just kill you. 0.99

00:37:52.000 They just kill you. 0.96

00:37:53.000 Yeah. 0.62

00:37:54.000 They have a big party.

00:37:55.000 Or just like take all their money away.

00:37:56.000 When you get out of the White House, you're broke.

00:37:58.000 You're broke.

00:37:59.000 You can't make any money.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, actually, actually, maybe, maybe what we do is as soon as you leave any public office,

00:38:05.000 we'll do term limits.

00:38:06.000 So every office will have like a year base.

00:38:08.000 So like in Congress, it's two years.

00:38:10.000 So okay, you can run four times.

00:38:12.000 The Senate, you can run twice.

00:38:14.000 It's still kind of long.

00:38:15.000 You'll get 12 years.

00:38:15.000 And then the presidency is two.

00:38:16.000 And once you're done, you lose all your possessions, you get a white jumpsuit, and you go to the island.

00:38:22.000 And then you just live in a community of people who are past civic leaders and you can never leave and you've chosen it.

00:38:28.000 The problem with having four two-year term limits is that they'll spend every year running for the next term and waste all that time.

00:38:35.000 Right, it's like Congress.

00:38:36.000 No, but if you lose, you go to the island.

00:38:38.000 And on that island, Jimmy Carter builds all the houses.

00:38:40.000 That's right.

00:38:41.000 No, no, so Ian, listen.

00:38:43.000 If you run for Congress and win, you're in for two years, and then you're like, I'm gonna run again, and then you lose to the island. 0.78

00:38:49.000 But I mean, I don't want them to spend any time while they're in office worrying about a re-election.

00:38:53.000 I want them to be in, run their term, and then be gone.

00:38:56.000 So two terms.

00:38:57.000 Like one eight-year term.

00:38:59.000 Is that too much years to give somebody?

00:39:01.000 Oh, that's a good point.

00:39:02.000 That's a good amount.

00:39:03.000 One four-year term.

00:39:04.000 Or maybe two four-year terms.

00:39:06.000 One re-election.

00:39:07.000 But they'll spend two years prepping their re-election.

00:39:09.000 No, but Congress is two years.

00:39:11.000 So giving Congress four years and two terms, and then once you're done, the island.

00:39:16.000 You know what I want to point out about- And there's internet there, so you can play Fortnite and the kids can talk about- Another possibility is to elect our pets to be politicians, and I bet they would probably do a better job than all the politicians right now.

00:39:26.000 Caligula did that with his horse, didn't he?

00:39:28.000 Yes, there you go. 0.76

00:39:29.000 Caligula, one of the crazy Roman emperors, inbred young gentleman, made his horse a counselor, I believe. 0.99

00:39:33.000 And there's a small town, I believe in Alaska, that elected a cat to be their mayor. 0.77

00:39:38.000 Oh, really?

00:39:38.000 Yeah, when I was thinking about how the Nazis would go to these corporations and be like, are you with us?

00:39:42.000 And then they're like, no.

00:39:43.000 And then like, then you're against us.

00:39:44.000 There's the nuance in society, I think that's been lost or overlooked lately, that you don't have to be for or against something, you can be neutral.

00:39:50.000 And that's usually you are.

00:39:52.000 99.999% of the time, people are neutral to the environment.

00:39:56.000 It's only you don't have to take a side.

00:39:58.000 Live like that.

00:39:59.000 Make sure you live like that.

00:40:00.000 Don't let it polarize.

00:40:01.000 You know, so I tweeted a joke about capitalism today.

00:40:05.000 I said, capitalism was too successful. 0.95

00:40:07.000 We have fat homeless people. 0.96

00:40:11.000 So there's several different layers to this joke.

00:40:14.000 And I felt like it would play well with everyone.

00:40:16.000 For people who are pro-capitalist, they'd be like, wow, even our homeless people are eating too much.

00:40:21.000 For the communists and the left, they're supposed to be like, people who eat too much still don't have homes.

00:40:26.000 Like, it's supposed to play both ways, but it's only the left who gets mad about it.

00:40:30.000 The right just laughs, and they're like, whatever.

00:40:32.000 And the left is, like, offended.

00:40:35.000 And I tweeted, it's what I call bugs bunnying, where you can make a statement that should be something they'll support, but they'll criticize, so you can prove that they're principally bankrupt.

00:40:45.000 They don't actually believe what they believe.

00:40:47.000 They don't actually care about these things.

00:40:48.000 They just want to hate another group.

00:40:50.000 And I think that proves it.

00:40:52.000 I've made several statements, you know, like I think the Carhartt one, when the Carhartt boycott happened, I said, here's something, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you work at Carhartt, quit.

00:41:01.000 And I got criticized by the left for saying that.

00:41:03.000 And I'm like, shouldn't you agree with me on that?

00:41:06.000 And actually a lot of people tweeted, they were like, but you know, why are you criticizing him?

00:41:09.000 He's right.

00:41:10.000 Just quit then, if you don't want to work there.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, well, it's because it's not about principles.

00:41:14.000 It's about being part of a tribe that hates another tribe.

00:41:17.000 Their identity is based on hate, that's it.

00:41:19.000 And there's people on the right who are like that for sure, but it seems to be the rule on the left.

00:41:24.000 You're in like, like you said, Twitter, I think the other day, 2% of Americans are on Twitter.

00:41:29.000 And you're active on Twitter.

00:41:30.000 And you're like in it. 0.98

00:41:31.000 So you're looking at these crazy, crazy minority. 1.00

00:41:34.000 And it's like, Oh, absolutely. 0.97

00:41:35.000 It's got to be loud for you.

00:41:37.000 And what the algorithms want you to see.

00:41:38.000 Someone left a very good comment saying that the politicians usually do go to an island after they become a politician.

00:41:46.000 And that, of course, is Epstein's Island.

00:41:50.000 So shout out to the person who made that comment.

00:41:52.000 Let me pull up this story here we got from the post-millennial.

00:41:54.000 Oh my! 0.58

00:41:55.000 Joe Rogan and James Lindsay point out how the left smears everyone they disagree with as alt-right.

00:42:01.000 On the latest episode of the podcast, Joe Rogan spoke with James Lindsay about why so many people are deemed alt-right by the left.

00:42:07.000 And, uh, the story's about me!

00:42:09.000 So, uh, special thanks to James and Joe.

00:42:11.000 Because I don't even think they were necessarily defending me, just pointing out facts.

00:42:16.000 Just denying this.

00:42:17.000 What happened was, this guy Josh Zeps, who is a statist propagandist in Australia, who really doesn't like me because I've criticized their country, and he makes things up, and boy is he triggered by me.

00:42:27.000 He said, you know, oh, Tim Pool says these things and blah blah blah.

00:42:30.000 And then a few seconds later goes, so these alt-right guys who are, you know, saying this stuff, and then Joe cuts him off and he's like, Tim Pool's not alt-right.

00:42:37.000 You can't just say that, man.

00:42:38.000 That's not true.

00:42:38.000 And he's like, well, I didn't mean, I mean, and then he says, I don't think Majid Nawaz is alt-right.

00:42:43.000 I know him, but Tim Pool, So Joe Rogan's talking to James, and they end up bringing me up specifically, and Joe's like, I know Tim very well.

00:42:50.000 He's like a centrist.

00:42:51.000 He was a boots-on-the-ground guy for Vice.

00:42:53.000 And then James is like, yeah, he was in Occupy.

00:42:55.000 So this is what I think is... It shows the lies.

00:43:00.000 It's obvious they're lying.

00:43:02.000 One of the most powerful media...

00:43:04.000 shows in the world, Joe Rogan's show, is outright just with no remorse calling out the lies.

00:43:12.000 I think this is a good example of the narrative is breaking before our eyes.

00:43:16.000 I know there's a lot of reasons why we said the narrative is breaking, but here's another

00:43:21.000 really good one.

00:43:22.000 It involves me, so obviously I wanted to highlight it and say thank you to Joe for just being honest and talking about my views and everything.

00:43:28.000 But who's gonna believe this anymore?

00:43:30.000 Well, I was thinking maybe this is alt-right in the sense that it's alternative to the polarized right.

00:43:36.000 It's more of a center.

00:43:37.000 Alt-right means white nationalist.

00:43:40.000 That's the problem with the phrase.

00:43:42.000 It shouldn't mean that it's further right than people on the right.

00:43:45.000 It's just an alternative to weird Polarized politics.

00:43:49.000 That's literally not the case.

00:43:50.000 It just crossed my mind a couple weeks ago.

00:43:51.000 The Associated Press put out a statement years ago saying the alt-right group that coined the term specifically referenced white nationalist ideology.

00:44:00.000 That's where the term came from.

00:44:01.000 That's what it represents.

00:44:03.000 That's why the left will try to passively smear everyone as alt-right so they can then add to your Wikipedia page something like Ian's been called alt-right.

00:44:11.000 Then another outlet will say, many news organizations have noted that Ian, who's considered alt-right, and then eventually they can just say Ian is alt-right, then they can then say Ian is a white nationalist and put it on your Wikipedia page.

00:44:23.000 That's the game they play.

00:44:25.000 It's not working anymore.

00:44:26.000 It's falling apart because people are getting sick and tired of it, and they're not scared to call out the bunk media.

00:44:32.000 And you know what it is?

00:44:33.000 As the media ratings collapse, people are getting less scared of being smeared because they're irrelevant.

00:44:38.000 It's also a way to shut you up.

00:44:39.000 They can't engage you with your ideas.

00:44:41.000 So like someone said, I don't want open borders.

00:44:45.000 Well, then you're racist because you don't like mixing people.

00:44:48.000 But no, because there's a reason why I don't think this is effective.

00:44:51.000 It's racist, sexist, it's all the things.

00:44:54.000 It's to shut us up because they don't want to have this debate.

00:44:57.000 And people on the left, they're not good at debating because they don't get those other ideas coming at them.

00:45:02.000 If you're on the right, you get all the ideas.

00:45:05.000 You watch Colbert, you watch the culture, you read the news.

00:45:08.000 You're experiencing, even by default, all these different concepts and you're able to kind of, you know, work with them, talk about them, debate them.

00:45:16.000 But if you're on the left, you're in this bubble area and you can't debate, so you have to smear.

00:45:20.000 Well, shout out to Hunter Avalon for having come on this show a while back

00:45:24.000 because I respect him for coming on the show and he was having traditional liberal views,

00:45:28.000 but man, don't come on a show unprepared and be arrogant about it.

00:45:33.000 That's what I would say.

00:45:34.000 So the issue with him was he brought up Hunter, he brought up Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Ukraine, Burisma,

00:45:41.000 and he didn't know anything about it.

00:45:43.000 So when I said Joe Biden did engage in a quid pro quo, a corruption in Ukraine to empower his son and make money

00:45:51.000 for his family.

00:45:51.000 And Hunter was like, that's not true.

00:45:53.000 I was like, bro, I can name every person.

00:45:55.000 I've read the reports.

00:45:56.000 I've read Ukrainian news.

00:45:57.000 I've read Russian news.

00:45:57.000 I've read Matt Taibbi's reporting.

00:45:58.000 I have dug through that to a great deal.

00:46:02.000 And I asked him, do you know the name of the guy who started Burisma?

00:46:04.000 And he was like, no.

00:46:04.000 And I'm like, okay, look, with all due respect, why would you step up and claim you know something?

00:46:09.000 And then when I ask you a simple question, you outright say, I don't know anything about it.

00:46:13.000 It's a weird arrogance that exists.

00:46:14.000 Joe Biden bragged about it.

00:46:16.000 He bragged about the quid pro quo.

00:46:18.000 They don't know any of this because they don't actually have these debates.

00:46:21.000 So when someone comes into a debate and their first experience with this is, ah, I remember what Hassan said.

00:46:27.000 He said, it's not true.

00:46:29.000 And then I'm like, I actually can pull up all of the facts and show you.

00:46:32.000 Do you want to see the Ukrainian news outlets talking about this guy fleeing the country?

00:46:36.000 No, they don't read the news.

00:46:37.000 They don't. 1.00

00:46:37.000 They listen to each other and they have a big circle of people who are jerks. 1.00

00:46:43.000 We try to keep it family-friendly. 0.99

00:46:45.000 I respect that.

00:46:46.000 They're very happy in that circle, but they're also completely out of touch.

00:46:49.000 They're on that island.

00:46:50.000 Yeah, that's probably what happens on that island, to be completely honest with you.

00:46:56.000 But Joe Biden bragged about that.

00:46:57.000 I mean, can we not forget that?

00:46:59.000 It's amazing that Joe Biden— He was, like, thrilled about it.

00:47:01.000 Literally!

00:47:02.000 He's like, I did it!

00:47:03.000 I had a quid pro quo!

00:47:04.000 And the media's like, no, he didn't.

00:47:06.000 Right. 1.00

00:47:07.000 You gotta be a special kind of either stupid or deceptive to be going online claiming it never happened when we all watched the video of Joe Biden doing it. 1.00

00:47:17.000 And Joe Biden's so dumb, he bragged about it. 0.99

00:47:19.000 I think the scariest thing for me about media bias today is that we can see things or hear things in their context and the media will say, no, it didn't happen. 0.99

00:47:28.000 That scares me to death.

00:47:30.000 It really scares me.

00:47:31.000 Well, it used to scare me.

00:47:32.000 Now I just laugh about it.

00:47:34.000 But people believe it though.

00:47:35.000 That's the thing that really upsets me.

00:47:36.000 But their ratings are in the gutter.

00:47:38.000 So I know their ratings are still high.

00:47:39.000 Colbert gets like 3 million viewers or whatever.

00:47:42.000 I just really loved when Joe Biden was doing the press conference and they were like, you know, if you don't pass these voter reform bills, what do you think's going to happen?

00:47:49.000 Joe's like, well, it's a very good chance it could be illegitimate.

00:47:51.000 And then Jen Psaki comes out the next day. 1.00

00:47:53.000 No, actually, he didn't say that.

00:47:55.000 What he said was true. 0.65

00:47:56.000 Trump is the problem.

00:47:58.000 It reminds me of that episode of Family Guy where Lois Griffin is running for office and she gets up to the podium and she goes, 9-11.

00:48:06.000 And they go, yay!

00:48:08.000 And start clapping and cheering.

00:48:09.000 And then they're like, how would you deal with the economy?

00:48:11.000 She goes, nine?

00:48:13.000 Eleven.

00:48:14.000 Yeah!

00:48:15.000 And they'll start clapping and cheering.

00:48:16.000 She stole that from Rudy Giuliani.

00:48:18.000 That's not fair.

00:48:20.000 And I'm reminded of the Orwell quote that we talked about on the show previously before that says, quote, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.

00:48:28.000 It was their final, most essential command.

00:48:31.000 And there's a lot of truth to that, especially when you see them call out stuff that clearly does happen, that clearly is a reality, and them saying, no, no, no, this never happened.

00:48:40.000 Don't look at the evidence.

00:48:41.000 Don't question it.

00:48:42.000 If you do, you're a bad person.

00:48:43.000 You're part of the alt-right. 1.00

00:48:45.000 You're, you know, a homophobic, racist, destructive person. 1.00

00:48:47.000 That means you're a white nationalist. 0.98

00:48:48.000 Also, if, you know, if it does turn out that the GOP takes a lot of extra seats or whatever in the 2022, in the midterms, And the Democrats then start saying that the election was illegitimate.

00:49:01.000 We're going to be able to look back on this moment and be like, you said it wouldn't be.

00:49:04.000 Now what are you talking about?

00:49:05.000 You know, it's like a it's just such a little trap for them.

00:49:08.000 I want to give a special shout out to the disinformation cycle.

00:49:12.000 It starts with the New York Times reporting that Ukrainians were interfering in the U.S.

00:49:17.000 election to benefit Hillary Clinton. 0.98

00:49:21.000 Actually, let me be very careful and precise.

00:49:23.000 It was Politico that reported this.

00:49:24.000 It was the New York Times that also reported that a Ukrainian court had found that certain interests in Ukraine, certain individuals, were engaged in this behavior.

00:49:33.000 And then it comes to Ted Cruz, who appears on Meet the Press, and he's asked by What's his name?

00:49:38.000 guy meet the press? What's his face?

00:49:40.000 The guy Chuck Todd.

00:49:41.000 Is it Chuck? Chuck Todd? Is it Chuck Todd? I don't know. He's asked, Do you really believe that Ukraine interfered in the

00:49:47.000 election and Ted Cruz is like Politico and the New York Times

00:49:50.000 reported they did. And then you hear one of the producers at MSNBC

00:49:53.000 start laughing or NBC just start laughing. And then I'm just like,

00:49:56.000 Ted Cruz cited mainstream news and they laugh at him like he's

00:49:59.000 wrong because they don't read the news. 0.99

00:50:01.000 Then our good friend David Pakman does a segment about it where he's like, I can't believe how dumb Ted Cruz is. 0.99

00:50:06.000 They're laughing at him. 0.94

00:50:07.000 And I'm like, David, did you Google the stories?

00:50:09.000 They're real.

00:50:10.000 But they don't read the news!

00:50:12.000 So they're like, those of us that read the news, like on this show, we have an eclectic bunch of people of varying political beliefs, and we read the news.

00:50:18.000 So we kind of agree on what some of the basic facts are, like many of them.

00:50:23.000 And then we disagree on policy positions, but that's just, it's right-wing.

00:50:26.000 It's just shuffle everyone into the alt-right bucket if you read the news.

00:50:29.000 Well, we read the same news.

00:50:31.000 That's the problem is there's lots of news out there that I don't read that never comes up on this show or is even orbited on this show because it's just, it seems fake.

00:50:38.000 It seems like media narrative.

00:50:40.000 I don't know, I read like, I read...

00:50:43.000 Not yesterday morning because I had food poisoning, but most mornings I read at least the headlines of pretty much everything.

00:50:51.000 What's your process like?

00:50:52.000 Real quick, just put it in real quick because I want to mention we've cited NPR, we've cited NJ.com, we've cited So we've hinted at Mother Jones.

00:51:02.000 We've hinted at Reuters.

00:51:04.000 Yo, we use Establishment Press on this show.

00:51:07.000 We just fact-checked these stories.

00:51:09.000 Like the other day, I specifically pointed out that I used NPR on purpose for one source.

00:51:13.000 I used CNN on purpose.

00:51:15.000 If I can fact-check what CNN says and find it to be true, I'll use them as a source.

00:51:20.000 To say, okay, not tell me CNN's wrong.

00:51:22.000 This is one of the funniest things.

00:51:24.000 I was accused of peddling misinformation about the election because I quoted CNN.

00:51:28.000 That's the point.

00:51:29.000 So I can be like, wow, CNN's fake news, I guess.

00:51:30.000 But anyway, sorry.

00:51:32.000 No, no, I just, I check everything in the morning.

00:51:34.000 I check Fox, I check NPR, I check the New York Times and Washington Post, check Daily Wire.

00:51:39.000 I check through everything.

00:51:41.000 We ran overnight at the Post Millennial that I didn't see. 0.55

00:51:44.000 Do you go website to website, or do you look at it through a portal like Twitter?

00:51:47.000 Honestly, like, I have it on my phone.

00:51:49.000 Oh, cool.

00:51:50.000 I just check everything.

00:51:52.000 I always check Reuters.

00:51:54.000 My reporting on Ukraine, and everything I read, Politico reported that Ukrainians did interfere in the election, and the New York Times ruled a court in Ukraine had found that to be true as well.

00:52:06.000 That's the New York Times and Politico.

00:52:07.000 I'm not cherry-picking my news sources.

00:52:10.000 I actually look for counterpoints.

00:52:12.000 There aren't any.

00:52:13.000 So I went to Ukraine and I hit up a source I had in Ukraine and said, can you investigate this from local news sources?

00:52:19.000 And then when I reported on it, I said, I don't know the credibility of these outlets.

00:52:23.000 It's a local Ukrainian outlet I'm not familiar with, but this is what they reported.

00:52:27.000 It backs up what these national outlets, Politico and the New York Times have said.

00:52:31.000 So for me, for everybody here, I think the issue for us is that we actually fact check the stories, so we have an understanding of reality. 0.98

00:52:39.000 But when, you know, Chuck Todd on Meet the Press laughs at Ted Cruz, or his producers do, because Ted Cruz cited the New York Times, that's a special level of stupid coming out of NBC. 0.96

00:52:50.000 It's interesting. 0.99

00:52:51.000 And very on-brand.

00:52:52.000 To think that a corporation would feed you a little bit of falsity, get you to believe it, and then ridicule you for believing it.

00:52:59.000 Well, there's been a lot of crazy news stories of them just absolutely inverting reality to what is just totally the complete opposite of evidence.

00:53:09.000 It's not that hard to fact check.

00:53:10.000 It's not that hard to look at sources.

00:53:12.000 It's not that hard to get a different side of the story.

00:53:15.000 It's becoming more and more difficult, especially when it comes to using Google.

00:53:18.000 and I think they're catching on to that.

00:53:20.000 But we have an opportunity in our life where we have this small window that's closing

00:53:26.000 where we could look up anything at any moment and find out exactly what we want about it.

00:53:32.000 That window I believe is closing.

00:53:33.000 It's still here.

00:53:34.000 We should still use it as much as we can.

00:53:39.000 Mainstream establishment outlets talking about this very fact that NBC, their talking heads, make fun of Ted Cruz for.

00:53:46.000 There's a lot of things you can make fun of Ted Cruz for, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't wrong on the facts.

00:53:50.000 So when pundits like David Pakman go on his show and he laughs at Ted Cruz for being right, I'm just like, I messaged David and I was like, hey, here's the link to the stories, bro.

00:54:01.000 You just had to Google it.

00:54:02.000 I don't understand why you're laughing at Ted Cruz or mocking him for that.

00:54:04.000 There's something about this story, this Biden-Ukrainian scandal, that's a little vague, that makes me tired whenever it comes up.

00:54:12.000 I feel like it requires more glucose to process the information for some reason.

00:54:16.000 I don't know why.

00:54:16.000 I know what you mean.

00:54:18.000 It does kind of feel that way.

00:54:19.000 It's layered, it's complicated.

00:54:22.000 Certain stories are just like a punch to the face.

00:54:24.000 This one, it's more, you gotta dig in.

00:54:27.000 To explain this story to my friend's dad, I was like, have a seat, sir.

00:54:32.000 List of characters.

00:54:32.000 Because what happens is you can start slow and let them ask you questions.

00:54:36.000 Like, a video emerged of Joe Biden bragging about engaging in a quid pro quo where he would withhold a billion dollars in U.S.

00:54:42.000 aid to Ukraine unless they fired a prosecutor.

00:54:45.000 That's extortion, right?

00:54:47.000 Well, you can call it whatever you want.

00:54:48.000 It's illegal.

00:54:49.000 Okay.

00:54:50.000 Joe Biden doesn't have the authority to stop something that was passed in Congress.

00:54:52.000 Oh, it's not extortion if the president doesn't, right?

00:54:54.000 No, but he wasn't president at the time.

00:54:56.000 This was back when he was vice president.

00:54:57.000 He was vice president.

00:54:58.000 And the vice president and president can't go and say, I am going to personally halt an act of Congress.

00:55:04.000 So they accused Trump of doing that, when in fact Joe Biden literally did it.

00:55:07.000 And we know he did it.

00:55:09.000 And he bragged about it.

00:55:10.000 And then the media comes on and says, Joe Biden never did that.

00:55:12.000 And he wanted the prosecutor fired because the prosecutor was investigating Burisma, where his son was a chair, was like a, you know, on the board there.

00:55:20.000 And Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor in Ukraine who got fired, signed a sworn affidavit saying, the president came to me and said, Joe Biden wants you fired because you're investigating Burisma.

00:55:31.000 Wow.

00:55:31.000 Matt Taibbi reported this.

00:55:33.000 And he reported there were a dozen plus investigations from the prosecutor into Burisma every step of the way.

00:55:39.000 There have been sycophantic establishment journalists who have been like, well, Burisma wasn't even under investigation.

00:55:44.000 And then journalists are like, here's the investigations.

00:55:46.000 Yeah.

00:55:46.000 Well, but those were not about...

00:55:49.000 What were they investigating them for?

00:55:50.000 So my my Kolos Lachewski is just the general surface answer is corruption, kickbacks,

00:55:58.000 forged documents, just you name it when it comes to trying to steamroll things through.

00:56:02.000 I don't I my personal view of this after everything I've read,

00:56:06.000 walking the story back to explain to like my friend's dad.

00:56:09.000 It's the Qatar Turkey pipeline It's trying to get natural gas into Europe trying to compete with Russia on the gas prop a gas prom natural gas monopoly It's around 20% that goes into Europe comes from gas prom through Ukraine So u.s.

00:56:21.000 Interest NATO Western allies wanted to get an alternative source of fuel to lower the prices They needed a means to do it.

00:56:27.000 So they prop up this company this company.

00:56:29.000 They have a guy who engages in a little behind the scenes to make it work faster.

00:56:33.000 There's like a CIA director who's on the board along with Hunter Biden, who has no business

00:56:36.000 being on the board.

00:56:37.000 And in the era of the internet, we can learn these things.

00:56:40.000 They got really mad it was happening. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Joe Biden's a moron and bragged about it. 1.00

00:56:43.000 And all of a sudden it looks like you can see at least the surface of what they were 1.00

00:56:46.000 trying to do with Syria, with Turkey, with Iraq, with Iran, with Ukraine, what they're

00:56:52.000 still trying to do with Ukraine.

00:56:54.000 Trump really messed all those plans up.

00:56:55.000 Because Trump, I just think, didn't care about their plans, saw the video of Joe Biden engaging in what appeared to be illegal activity, and is illegal activity, and then called the President of Ukraine and said, I saw this video.

00:57:05.000 This has literally happened.

00:57:06.000 He's like, I saw this video of Joe Biden saying he's going to do this.

00:57:08.000 Can you look into that for me?

00:57:10.000 And then they were like, impeach him.

00:57:12.000 We got to impeach him now.

00:57:13.000 And then they handcrafted this insane story about Trump quid pro quo, which was actually Joe Biden.

00:57:19.000 Here's the best part.

00:57:20.000 People on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter who named the CIA guy and don't say his name, please.

00:57:25.000 They got all their content deleted.

00:57:27.000 I had videos deleted for telling the story.

00:57:29.000 I made a post.

00:57:31.000 You post any of these stories and they would disappear without warning.

00:57:34.000 It was so obvious what they were doing.

00:57:36.000 I figured out why it has been confusing me is because they've been blaming Trump for the same thing that Biden did.

00:57:42.000 Yes.

00:57:43.000 Exactly.

00:57:44.000 That's amazing.

00:57:45.000 Watching it happen, like being in the news, and it's like Joe Biden walks over and kicks a dog.

00:57:50.000 And then the media goes, breaking news, Trump kicked a dog.

00:57:52.000 And I'm like, but what?

00:57:55.000 And now Biden is definitely going to go to war for Ukraine.

00:58:00.000 It doesn't look like it.

00:58:02.000 It's usually for oil, for a resource if it's a war.

00:58:06.000 Trump wasn't supposed to win.

00:58:08.000 Trump was not supposed to win.

00:58:09.000 I was in Ukraine at the Maidan protests when all this was erupting, when Yanukovych got ousted, when Ukraine was in that turmoil period, and it was that Western forces, and this is just my opinion as one person who covered a little bit of it, and I'm probably wrong on a lot of this, but my view was Obviously, the West wanted to get Ukraine under the fold.

00:58:29.000 They want to get cheaper gas into Europe.

00:58:30.000 That was part of the plan.

00:58:31.000 Russia doesn't want that to happen.

00:58:33.000 It's against their interests.

00:58:34.000 Syria is allied with Russia.

00:58:35.000 This whole region is embroiled in this conflict.

00:58:38.000 Trump gets elected.

00:58:39.000 Everything stops.

00:58:41.000 Syria, he's trying to withdraw our troops from Syria.

00:58:43.000 They won't let him.

00:58:43.000 They lie about it.

00:58:44.000 Trump is like, why do I care about Ukraine?

00:58:46.000 Just give him some weapons and be done with it. 0.57

00:58:48.000 Biden gets back in and all of a sudden, oh no!

00:58:51.000 It's like, the amazing thing is, after Trump got elected, the whole Ukraine civil war narrative stops.

00:58:56.000 And just like goes off the news cycle, Biden gets back in and here we are, Ukrainian civil war all over again.

00:59:01.000 Yeah, it's back.

00:59:02.000 Amazing.

00:59:03.000 But there was still fighting in Ukraine between some Russian forces and the separatists.

00:59:08.000 Yes, but I went there.

00:59:09.000 But it was still at a standstill compared to how hot it was comparatively to when John McCain was there.

00:59:16.000 And I went to Ukraine.

00:59:18.000 I think I went there.

00:59:19.000 It may have been just before Trump got elected.

00:59:22.000 And in this period, my sources on the ground, just locals, they're not like experts said, the fighting had mostly subsided and they were no longer, they said, don't call it a civil war, that pisses people off.

00:59:32.000 And I was like, when I was here and when I left, it escalated to the point where the Eastern separatists, no, no, no, no, no, it's just, it's separatist conflict and it's like, you know, it's anti-government extremism.

00:59:41.000 I'm like, oh, okay.

00:59:42.000 And then for years, we barely hear anything about it.

00:59:45.000 Joe Biden gets in and all of a sudden we're being told Russia's about to invade Ukraine.

00:59:49.000 Okay, dude.

00:59:49.000 Yeah, they were going at Putin until Trump got elected.

00:59:52.000 Then they were going at Trump for being connected to Putin.

00:59:55.000 Then Trump left.

00:59:56.000 Now they're going back at Putin.

00:59:57.000 This whole boogeyman thing is so annoying.

01:00:00.000 Well, one of the things is you've got the bureaucratic state, the intelligence agencies, they have plans that exist well beyond.

01:00:08.000 Yeah, I think they're playing the 100-year game as well as the CCP.

01:00:11.000 I think they're both playing the 100-year game.

01:00:13.000 Trump was not supposed to win.

01:00:14.000 When Trump got in office, all of a sudden their plans were completely disrupted.

01:00:17.000 So anyway, this all started because I obsess over this stuff because this was one of the most egregious things to ever happen in American history.

01:00:24.000 A president was impeached over a lie to maintain bureaucratic policies that existed before he got in office, and it just shows you that the emperor has no clothes, no one's playing by the rules anymore, and any semblance of like, Like, yo, if you think the president has real power, you underestimate the intelligence agencies and the bureaucratic state.

01:00:44.000 That's what we can see here.

01:00:45.000 That beyond the president, there's a reason why Trump was jammed up the entirety of his first term.

01:00:51.000 Because Trump was not supposed to be the guy to win, and he wanted to shore up our borders, he wanted to bring the troops home, he wanted to go America first, build up our factories, and he did not want to play that international game, and they got mad about it.

01:01:02.000 I have a different kind of perspective, but we don't have to dive into all that.

01:01:04.000 Then they did the impeachment, then they did the other impeachment, and now they're trying

01:01:08.000 to prosecute him over fraud in New York so he can't run for office.

01:01:12.000 It's crazy.

01:01:13.000 I have a different kind of perspective, but we don't have to dive into all that.

01:01:18.000 But there was a bull in the China shop aspect to the Trump presidency that does deserve

01:01:24.000 to be recognized because I think even Donald Trump himself was surprised when he won the

01:01:30.000 election.

01:01:31.000 He looked.

01:01:32.000 He looked surprised.

01:01:33.000 He looked like he was like, wait, this is not supposed to happen.

01:01:34.000 What's going on here?

01:01:36.000 And whether it was underprepared or whether it was people stopping him, there was an internal conflict that was clearly visible, whether it was him and the CIA, him saying, I'm definitely going to release those JFK files, no matter what the CIA saying no.

01:01:51.000 And those documents never came out.

01:01:52.000 There was something happening behind the scenes, and there's probably way more things that happened that would shock us if we really knew what was happening behind the true layers of power.

01:02:03.000 So, it's interesting.

01:02:06.000 I wish I could talk to Trump.

01:02:08.000 I wish we could ask him more questions, but there's so many different ways that the United States government is run that we still don't fully understand.

01:02:15.000 But the bureaucrats, the supposed deep state, the people that are in there, no matter who the president is, the intelligence agencies, They have a lot more power than we think.

01:02:23.000 You know that Kennedy assassination was like the first example of citizen journalism.

01:02:28.000 Maybe not the first, but on video.

01:02:30.000 Some random guy watching the parade and caught that assassination.

01:02:33.000 And that all the evidence from all the people like, hey, maybe it isn't what we thought

01:02:37.000 it was comes from that video of where you see him get hit.

01:02:40.000 Sometimes you just need a little Alex Jones.

01:02:43.000 When he yells that an alien intelligence has taken over and is controlling everybody, you

01:02:48.000 can sit back with a nice fire going on a rainy day and just hear the angry rants of Alex

01:02:52.000 Jones and be like, it actually is kind of relaxing because it makes everything feel

01:02:56.000 like when he yelled and slammed the table and talked about the alien intelligence taking

01:03:00.000 over, it made me laugh.

01:03:02.000 It kind of like brought levity to the situation.

01:03:03.000 I'm not trying to say it to be mean or to disrespect Alex or anything like that, but it was like my worldview is corporatist, authoritarian, despotic individuals who lie, cheat, and steal.

01:03:13.000 And when Alex brings up the aliens, it kind of makes me feel like, you know, maybe there's there's something more interesting to life and it's fun to hear the fanciful ideas and the crazy.

01:03:21.000 I think for sure that this is part of a process that's greater than we can perceive.

01:03:26.000 The corruption that's bubbling, the humans needing to eat food to survive, so we're constantly aggressing on each other for food.

01:03:33.000 Bugs.

01:03:34.000 We need bugs to survive. 0.77

01:03:35.000 Now, I don't know what Alex was talking about specifically.

01:03:39.000 I don't know if he was talking about UFOs coming from outer space or artificial intelligence, but if he was talking about artificial intelligence, there is an argument to make here that there is a probability that that has happened in some way.

01:03:50.000 I just I just mean to say that sometimes there's like When we constantly hear about corrupt world leaders and then someone tells you a fancy story It's kind of it's kind of you know, it kind of you know breaks that that humor serves a purpose Yeah, I mean and now it's kind of under like maybe maybe life is more more interesting than just this really awful corruption we experience and this definitely is and it's what you make it and I was thinking about why it is, you know, I can't remember what show I was watching.

01:04:16.000 I think I was watching the Teen Titans live action show.

01:04:20.000 And I was like, what's with all these superhero movies and shows that become really, really popular?

01:04:23.000 How was the live action?

01:04:25.000 I only ever watched the cartoon.

01:04:26.000 I don't know, I barely watch.

01:04:28.000 It's on the background, to be honest.

01:04:29.000 It's gory.

01:04:31.000 DC really loves to be extremely brutal.

01:04:33.000 But I was thinking about something.

01:04:36.000 The reality of superhero movies is very capitalistic, and I guess you'd call it colloquially far-right.

01:04:43.000 And the world that we live in is actually very communist when it comes to this.

01:04:47.000 What I mean by that is, I'm watching this cartoon, Young Justice, because I'm watching HBO Max, basically.

01:04:53.000 And one of the heroes has a laser arm.

01:04:56.000 Like, his arm turns into a laser gun.

01:04:57.000 And I was like, that's just a kid with a gun going around shooting people.

01:05:00.000 Like, he's not a superhero.

01:05:01.000 They literally just gave some 16-year-old kid a gun, and he goes around and he's like, I'm a hero!

01:05:04.000 And he's like, blasting lasers at people.

01:05:06.000 And I was like, in the real world, anyone can have a gun.

01:05:09.000 I mean, you're not supposed to, but that's why we don't have that stuff.

01:05:12.000 Like, power is much more distributed.

01:05:14.000 So anyway, I bring that up because in the real world, There's corruption at every level like in almost everywhere to varying degrees and there is no superheroes going to save the day and end all of this.

01:05:26.000 That's why when you know Alex Jones says that the real enemy is like an alien intelligence it makes it feel like we're all in this together up against the true evil.

01:05:33.000 It's just unfortunately not true.

01:05:34.000 Humans are against humans.

01:05:36.000 When I was a kid I remember, not a kid, when I was like in my 20s, I knew all these people who were claiming that there was actually a war going on between angels and demons in this other sphere and that, you know, we could like sort of tap into that other war.

01:05:50.000 And I was like, wow, you guys have way better drugs than me.

01:05:54.000 Yeah, I think of like demons as like energy patterns that can be catalyzed.

01:05:58.000 I have no idea what this is about.

01:06:00.000 People I knew were really into this idea.

01:06:04.000 How crazy the universe is, they might be right.

01:06:06.000 Yeah, who knows what's going on.

01:06:07.000 We talk about demons and angels, and a demon is like a pattern of behavior.

01:06:12.000 The demon is in you now because you're acting on this urge.

01:06:15.000 Something catalyzes this behavior, and we call it a demon.

01:06:17.000 But that might be coming from somewhere far away, beamed into or vibrating our neurons so we think it.

01:06:23.000 Whereas an angel is more like, it just seems to need help.

01:06:26.000 This is why DMT is such an amazing conversation, why I think so many people enjoy it.

01:06:31.000 Joe Rogan talks about it a lot.

01:06:32.000 I mean, we every so often bring it up.

01:06:35.000 But because when people talk about this veil and machine elves, it makes everyone kind of feel like there's something else out there, that this world we experience with all the good and all the bad isn't just it.

01:06:45.000 Because, you know, Ian, you randomly brought up, like, why am I alive?

01:06:49.000 And that's like certainly something people experience all the time, that question, that existential question.

01:06:54.000 And so when people hear stories about grand villains, they love it.

01:06:58.000 Be it Antifa fighting the fascists, or Alex Jones fighting the alien intelligence, or people want to know more about DMT, or angels and demons, there's got to be something else that drives us.

01:07:07.000 I definitely do believe that there is some kind of spiritual war out there.

01:07:11.000 I don't want to kind of drudge on about my own personal beliefs, but I think too to say that everything is just an accident and mistake.

01:07:18.000 I think that's something that from my perspective isn't true.

01:07:22.000 Might be a little bit of a naive thinking.

01:07:24.000 I think there's a lot more to this world especially energetically that we don't understand yet.

01:07:28.000 I don't think we should understand it.

01:07:30.000 But when it comes to consciousness and dimensions, I think we're only scratching the surface here, even just with this conversation.

01:07:36.000 Well, of course we are.

01:07:37.000 Of course we're only scratching the surface.

01:07:38.000 We've been scratching the same surface for the entire history of humanity.

01:07:43.000 You know, this is why we have religion.

01:07:44.000 We want to know what's bigger than ourselves.

01:07:47.000 We want to know where we come from and why.

01:07:50.000 Of course we do.

01:07:52.000 You know, at the point when we stop asking that question, we stop being human.

01:07:55.000 Yeah, I get confused.

01:07:56.000 I think a lot of confusion comes from like, it's a couple, a lot of things going on at once.

01:07:59.000 There's one, there's the carnal need to eat and keep this body healthy.

01:08:03.000 So there's this chaos as a result.

01:08:05.000 But then there's like this benevolent, like energy intelligence that doesn't need food.

01:08:09.000 It's just there like love.

01:08:11.000 It's telling you love and communicate.

01:08:13.000 But then you're, you're, you're countering that with your body.

01:08:15.000 That's like consume, destroy.

01:08:17.000 I must, I must, Take its energy to survive.

01:08:20.000 So well, this is the question, right?

01:08:26.000 The question is what does the does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body?

01:08:30.000 These are the this is the question.

01:08:32.000 So where are your friends today?

01:08:33.000 The ones who gave you that and Morrissey both asked those questions.

01:08:36.000 Where are your friends?

01:08:37.000 You had that when you were in 20s.

01:08:38.000 You heard this conversation.

01:08:39.000 Where are they today?

01:08:40.000 Oh, I'm mostly they're dead.

01:08:41.000 Sorry. 0.92

01:08:42.000 Oh Christian unhappy. 1.00

01:08:44.000 What do you think about this spiritual battle?

01:08:48.000 I don't think about it that much.

01:08:50.000 I think my life is so frantic right now.

01:08:52.000 I've got two kids.

01:08:53.000 My wife was battling cancer last year.

01:08:55.000 I work seven days a week.

01:08:58.000 I've got so much going on.

01:09:00.000 I work all the time.

01:09:02.000 I don't have time for meatier themes like this, honestly.

01:09:05.000 Well, let me ask to kind of build upon that.

01:09:12.000 Do you guys think when Alex Jones says demons, he literally means like demonic energy?

01:09:16.000 Or does he mean like evil people, people who are bad people?

01:09:19.000 You know what I mean?

01:09:19.000 Is there a difference?

01:09:20.000 I think he means energy.

01:09:21.000 Well, no, yeah, like he could literally think that there's demons from hell coming through the veil and latching onto people.

01:09:28.000 Or he could be saying that these people are demons metaphorically, like they're just evil.

01:09:31.000 I think it's like energy tickling the amygdala.

01:09:36.000 I don't want to be speaking for someone else.

01:09:38.000 How do you interpret it?

01:09:41.000 I think both could be true.

01:09:43.000 Absolutely.

01:09:44.000 Demons from the other realm.

01:09:45.000 Um, I, you know, when it comes to energy, there's a lot of, you know, crazy things once you start studying and understanding it, dimensions and realities.

01:09:54.000 And especially when it comes to, you know, the spirit molecule, there's, there's so much really to, to, to have this personal journey.

01:10:03.000 That's kind of even weird to talk about, uh, because people are going to be looking at you strange with what you actually believe in.

01:10:09.000 You know, I think everyone has their own journey in life and has their own understanding of it And I think the process of them finding out is Is something that's really amazing and beautiful and I think even speaking and telling people what I believe in kind of ruins that It's so deeply personal exactly But doesn't that mean we should talk about it?

01:10:26.000 Yeah.

01:10:27.000 That's just my own personal feelings on it.

01:10:30.000 I think that it's very easy for human beings to become the monster, you know, to dehumanize themselves to look around and say like, you know, I'm better than this person or I get to do this horrible thing because I have good reasons to do the horrible thing, you know, but I think that I think that there probably is evil in the world.

01:10:48.000 I don't like to think that there is, but I tend to be an optimist.

01:10:51.000 I tend to look at the good in every person.

01:10:54.000 When I interact with a person, I try and meet them where they stand and look for the good

01:10:59.000 in them.

01:11:00.000 I mean, I think if you live for the last two years and don't think there's evil in the

01:11:04.000 world, I don't know what you're smoking.

01:11:07.000 That's a very good point.

01:11:09.000 I've gotten so disappointed with people, with my country, with our leaders, with other nations.

01:11:15.000 I can't wrap my head around what's going on right now.

01:11:19.000 They're evil.

01:11:19.000 There's a thing where people snap.

01:11:21.000 I don't know if you guys ever see someone snap before, where they're getting riled up and then all of a sudden they just like...

01:11:27.000 Like it's like this weird thing where it's almost not human.

01:11:30.000 It's like the animal takes over.

01:11:32.000 So you're saying like not necessarily evil, but definitely dangerous.

01:11:36.000 I had some weird experiences in my life that I don't even want to talk about right now, but there are sociopaths.

01:11:43.000 Right.

01:11:43.000 The most amount of sociopaths per capita are in Washington D.C.

01:11:45.000 That makes a lot of sense to me.

01:11:47.000 And when you look at the science of sociopaths, it explains a lot of the behavior that you see kind of exemplified in a lot of positions of power where naturally sociopaths try to get to.

01:11:58.000 So understanding it from that perspective is also one way to kind of answer the question of why these people do what they do and whether it's demonic evil or just psychological breakdowns of people's mental health.

01:12:10.000 You know, there's a lot of different possibilities out there, but I think the spirit world is something that does exist and does have a far greater impact than we even understand it to.

01:12:21.000 I've been studying the demons from the Bible, the Christian Bible, from this thing called the Ars Goetia, which is like King Solomon would communicate with demons through a ring. 0.71

01:12:30.000 And it's like, you look at these demons, and they're all like, it's called the Ars Goetia, if you want to check.

01:12:35.000 So it's not actually in the actual Bible.

01:12:37.000 No, no, no.

01:12:37.000 This is something that was written later about the demons.

01:12:39.000 It's totally not in there.

01:12:40.000 But it's like Baal, the demon, and it's about like a bunch, they're all like kings and dukes and earls and presidents and stuff. 0.73

01:12:47.000 And I started thinking, I think these were real people.

01:12:49.000 Well, King Solomon was a real person.

01:12:51.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:12:52.000 And I think that demons, like the archangels, Michael and all these archangels were real people and the demons were real.

01:12:56.000 And there was a war and the winner wrote the history book and wrote them and demonized them and said that land that they all lived in is called hell.

01:13:04.000 And they remember it being a fire and flame because they probably scorched earth.

01:13:09.000 I have no idea what this is.

01:13:10.000 The idea of a demon isn't like a person that you got to be afraid of.

01:13:13.000 It's more of a field or like an energy pattern that can kind of co-opt your body.

01:13:19.000 Or is it human beings who have, you know, taken that leap into pure evil, which I think happens.

01:13:25.000 I've been told that when you take DMT, you will meet demons and they'll offer you secrets and knowledge and all you gotta do is sign the deal.

01:13:33.000 I was there for that conversation.

01:13:34.000 I remember that conversation.

01:13:35.000 I ask some of these people, what is that deal?

01:13:37.000 What is it?

01:13:38.000 And they're like, just the deal.

01:13:39.000 And I'm like, what are you giving up in exchange for the knowledge?

01:13:41.000 Nothing.

01:13:41.000 It's just they want to share.

01:13:43.000 They tell you, we're going to help you and we're going to give you this information.

01:13:46.000 Don't you want to be free?

01:13:48.000 And that people are told to reject the deal because they're going to, you know, and then the demons are like, the only reason you would say no to this is because you're a slave and you're brainwashed.

01:13:56.000 You got to trust me.

01:13:57.000 I'm good for you and I'm going to make your life better.

01:13:59.000 And so the idea is from a lot of people that these demons are giving global elites access to information.

01:14:04.000 This is what Alex Jones says.

01:14:06.000 They're getting like privy to information or whatever from the demons.

01:14:08.000 I think that's just, you know, when you do drugs, you believe crazy things.

01:14:13.000 I mean, this is Jesus in the desert, right?

01:14:15.000 So when Jesus goes out into the desert, And Satan offers him everything he could possibly ever want and Jesus turns it down.

01:14:22.000 But he turns it down over and over again.

01:14:25.000 But what was he like?

01:14:25.000 What was he offering him?

01:14:27.000 He offered him.

01:14:28.000 He offered him.

01:14:29.000 Yeah, he offered him power like to basically to be the king.

01:14:33.000 He offered him.

01:14:33.000 I mean, we could probably find it.

01:14:35.000 But that's the one that I remember.

01:14:36.000 He offered him food because he was starving out there in the desert because he was fasting for 40 days.

01:14:42.000 Power.

01:14:42.000 He offered him, you know, like probably Maybe I'm making this up, but he probably offered him sexual stuff, you know, whatever it is.

01:14:52.000 I don't know if that would work on Jesus, to be honest.

01:14:54.000 Am I making that up?

01:14:54.000 No, it was just everything he wanted.

01:14:56.000 But it was like anything.

01:14:57.000 Basically, the idea was that Satan tried to ply Jesus with anything he could come up with that Jesus might want.

01:15:03.000 And it didn't work, and Jesus eventually went back and faced his fate, which was devastating and very excruciating for him, and he felt abandoned by God and everything else, and it was terrible.

01:15:15.000 But I think that's such an amazing moment.

01:15:19.000 It's part of why Lent is my favorite season in the Catholic calendar.

01:15:24.000 It's because it's when you look at everything and you say to yourself, I am nothing.

01:15:28.000 I am dust.

01:15:32.000 And you have to give up of yourself in order to be closer to God, I think.

01:15:37.000 What do you think, Tim?

01:15:38.000 What's your understanding of it?

01:15:40.000 Of what?

01:15:41.000 Demons.

01:15:42.000 I don't know.

01:15:43.000 Or energetic forces.

01:15:43.000 That's why I just like talking about all this crazy stuff.

01:15:46.000 And that's why, you know, Michael Malice and Alex Jones talking about DMT I find so fascinating.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, because I'm you know, I'm like, tell me your experience.

01:15:52.000 I want to learn as much as I can about this.

01:15:53.000 What really fascinates me about DMT is the shared experiences that people have reported when taking it, which indicates that that's a control that shows there may be something truly there.

01:16:03.000 And look, man, I would love to know the answers to the great questions.

01:16:08.000 I don't know if it's possible because we are like these tiny little specks.

01:16:11.000 It's not at all possible.

01:16:12.000 And yeah, of course it's not possible to know everything.

01:16:14.000 The universe is so massive.

01:16:15.000 It seems to have something to do with the double 64 tetrahedron and the double torus energy pattern that's produced.

01:16:21.000 Nassim Harriman's done a lot of geometric mathematics to produce this.

01:16:24.000 I think it's this shape.

01:16:25.000 This is a two-dimensional representation of this 64 tetrahedron.

01:16:29.000 And that life has... I don't know if there's a point to it, but it seems to be like a shape.

01:16:36.000 You see the Fibonacci sequence emerge out of this shape a lot of times.

01:16:39.000 That's a cool sequence, that Fibonacci thing.

01:16:40.000 And you start seeing it under particular substances as well.

01:16:43.000 The golden ratio?

01:16:44.000 Yeah, under DMT, people see Aztec patterns and stuff.

01:16:46.000 Not just DMT, but mushrooms as well.

01:16:47.000 What is DMT from?

01:16:49.000 It's in your brain.

01:16:50.000 It's secreted when you dream.

01:16:52.000 And when you're born, it's dumped into your brain.

01:16:55.000 So when you're taking DMT, you're taking brain juice?

01:16:58.000 No.

01:16:59.000 You're not taking brain juice.

01:17:00.000 It's in our natural environment.

01:17:02.000 A lot of living things have them and you can procure it.

01:17:05.000 So where does it come from?

01:17:07.000 Plants.

01:17:08.000 Your adrenal gland, right?

01:17:10.000 Or is it pituitary gland?

01:17:13.000 Let's make sure we get everything right here.

01:17:18.000 You should create DMT naturally inside of your brain every time you dream.

01:17:24.000 And when you're born up into a certain age of I think about seven, your brain is filled with it.

01:17:30.000 This is why children have a vivid imagination and that's why they say that they see creatures and monsters and entities.

01:17:38.000 Ghosts, especially.

01:17:40.000 And then when you die, it's rushed into your brain.

01:17:42.000 So, you know, this is something that, of course, should take people on their own individual investigative journeys.

01:17:49.000 They should study this.

01:17:50.000 Some people are like, just do DMT!

01:17:52.000 And I would not do that.

01:17:54.000 I would say people need to study and be respectful of this and do their research and homework.

01:18:00.000 I'd freak out if I saw something like this coming at me.

01:18:01.000 That looks like a demon to me.

01:18:03.000 That's what I see when I look at you.

01:18:04.000 That's because Ian's always dimethyl DMT stands for dimethyltryptamine.

01:18:10.000 And apparently it's responsible for like this waking dream state.

01:18:13.000 You know, other people are like, life is a dream.

01:18:15.000 Why does life, why are these weird, like, maybe we are dreaming.

01:18:18.000 Oh, I used to have that.

01:18:19.000 I used to have all kinds of weird things that I saw.

01:18:22.000 That's a totally different conversation.

01:18:25.000 They're doing what's called extended state DMT experiments now, I think in England for sure, somewhere in the Great Britain.

01:18:31.000 And they're putting people in because people are reporting seeing things like this and they're coming out.

01:18:36.000 And a lot of people are having similar experiences, so they want to know why.

01:18:40.000 But it's such a quick 15 minute experience if you if people smoke it that they're

01:18:45.000 now they're trying to do it in a lab in under an environment where

01:18:47.000 You can go in on like an IV drip of it and stay in for like hours at a time

01:18:51.000 There's no puppies involved with this is it don't know yet.

01:18:54.000 I don't know. There's no dr. Fowchuk Hey, let's be real though

01:18:57.000 You know when it comes to experimentation I'd be willing to bet that tons of governments around the

01:19:02.000 world have kidnapped humans and trafficked them for the purpose of experimentation

01:19:06.000 The CIA.

01:19:07.000 They did it with LSD.

01:19:08.000 Openly.

01:19:09.000 Willingly.

01:19:10.000 Wasn't Fauci experimenting on orphans?

01:19:12.000 Yes.

01:19:13.000 And other small animals.

01:19:14.000 Wasn't ecstasy created to help Swedish elderly people do their exercises?

01:19:20.000 What?

01:19:20.000 Is that what it was for?

01:19:21.000 Am I remembering something weird?

01:19:23.000 I don't know.

01:19:23.000 It was like given to people in old folks homes in Scandinavia so that they would do their exercises.

01:19:29.000 It does work for exercise.

01:19:30.000 I feel like I remember that.

01:19:32.000 I took it once and worked out really hard and the next day I didn't have like the serotonin depletion.

01:19:37.000 I felt it tingling in my muscles for like two days afterwards and I felt phenomenal the next day.

01:19:42.000 But just like with anything, please be careful.

01:19:44.000 Please do your own homework.

01:19:46.000 Please do your own research.

01:19:47.000 Please get testing kits.

01:19:49.000 Don't break the law.

01:19:50.000 Whatever you do, there's a lot of fentanyl also interlaced with a lot of the molly out there. 0.51

01:19:55.000 There's been a lot of people hurt by this very severely.

01:19:58.000 That's why you say no to drugs and you don't break the law.

01:20:03.000 In a lab setting where they're doing extended state DMT, this is where we're gonna find better answers.

01:20:09.000 Because some dude in his living room who's like, yo, I talked to a giant green elf, man.

01:20:13.000 I'm gonna be like yeah, I knew this guy when I was younger and he was like dude I'm telling you aliens are real because I've seen them and then I was like for real and I was like 16 He's like yeah, dude.

01:20:23.000 I went outside I was at my friend's house, and I was leaving and it was late at night And I go into the alley and all of a sudden a spaceship comes overhead like everybody was inside It was late at night, but I'm telling you dude.

01:20:33.000 I saw this with my own eyes, and I was like wow so what happened is like well me and my friends because we've been doing tons of drugs like I And then I went, oh, get out of here, dude.

01:20:43.000 I was like, you know what?

01:20:46.000 All of a sudden, I'm just like, I was all excited for some story.

01:20:50.000 And then, like, you know, Ian, you told the story about the wolf.

01:20:52.000 You're on the roof.

01:20:53.000 I was crazy.

01:20:53.000 And then you're like, I was high.

01:20:55.000 I was.

01:20:55.000 OK, dude, your story's not true.

01:20:57.000 Well, that's like when Homer Simpson, that's like your Homer Simpson thing, right?

01:21:00.000 Yeah, it was only THC, which when you talk about high and drugs, you've got to be careful because some of them, it's like, Like, I think oregano oil can get you high in the strong enough dose.

01:21:10.000 So you got to be careful with what that means.

01:21:14.000 You can also just psych yourself out like crazy.

01:21:17.000 Like you can always psych yourself out and see weird stuff and like wild I've fed a me the placebo effect is one of the most trippiest

01:21:24.000 Scientific effects that that also is worth talking about.

01:21:29.000 Tryptamines? No the placebo effect because you believe in something you're

01:21:33.000 Manifest and create something so just by by your belief system. So is that like a rudimentary manifestation?

01:21:40.000 Like, people on the placebo effect actually get better in some circumstances?

01:21:44.000 Yes.

01:21:44.000 And so, it's people manifesting their health?

01:21:47.000 Exactly.

01:21:48.000 So, you know, just understanding those basic principles and laws, when you implement them with other things in your existence, this is also something worth considering, talking about, especially when you have people consuming carefully curated social media.

01:22:03.000 The boob tube? 0.95

01:22:04.000 The CNN?

01:22:05.000 Imagine your consciousness and your thought process being affected in such an effect just like the placebo can have an effect.

01:22:12.000 I'd just like to say that I have not heard the term the boob tube in my life.

01:22:16.000 That's right.

01:22:17.000 That's what I called it in corporate media.

01:22:19.000 Luke and I have a mutual friend.

01:22:21.000 And I was going to visit him and he lives in L.A.

01:22:24.000 And L.A.

01:22:25.000 parking is a nightmare in this area, right?

01:22:27.000 And so I'm close to his house and I call him.

01:22:30.000 I'm like, hey, I'm here.

01:22:31.000 You know, where can I park?

01:22:32.000 And he goes, oh, bro, just manifest a spot.

01:22:35.000 I'm dead serious.

01:22:36.000 Robbie.

01:22:37.000 He was like, bro.

01:22:40.000 You gotta manifest the spot.

01:22:41.000 And I was like, Robbie, I'm not gonna manifest a parking space.

01:22:44.000 Where do I park?

01:22:44.000 And he's like, oh, dude, you gotta drive around and just manifest it.

01:22:47.000 And I was like, okay, are you telling me to just drive until someone moves and I can park my car?

01:22:52.000 That's what I did.

01:22:52.000 And, but then like, that's proof that he was right.

01:22:55.000 Cause he was like, see, I told you, and then you find a spot.

01:22:57.000 And I'm like, whatever.

01:22:58.000 Yeah, I used to drive around L.A.

01:22:59.000 and be like, there's an open spot, and then I'd look and hope that it was manifested, and be like, there's an open spot, and I'd look and hope that it was, and it wouldn't be, and I'd be like, nah, I don't think this is really working.

01:23:08.000 But eventually you'd find an open spot, and you could claim, hey, I manifested it.

01:23:11.000 No, eventually you'd find an open spot, because it was there, like, you don't manifest it.

01:23:14.000 And sometimes it's there right away.

01:23:15.000 Don't ruin it, come on. 0.98

01:23:16.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98

01:23:18.000 Dude, Christian, I gotta know about your book. 0.96

01:23:19.000 It's been there this whole show, and I've been looking at it.

01:23:22.000 I don't want to derail anything, but we have like... Tell me about this Virtue... So it's called Virtue Bombs.

01:23:26.000 And you lived in LA?

01:23:28.000 Is this what this is about?

01:23:29.000 No, I mean, I just cover it.

01:23:30.000 I cover Hollywood.

01:23:31.000 What's going on?

01:23:32.000 It's exactly what we talk about as far as narratives, but it's a woke narrative that's just crushing Hollywood.

01:23:38.000 It is making things less creative.

01:23:39.000 It's obviously, you know, attacking comedy.

01:23:42.000 It's identity politics gone wild.

01:23:45.000 It's so many things that are going wrong with Hollywood.

01:23:47.000 And one of the things I'm really upset about the whole situation is I'm waiting for that Tom Hanks, that Denzel, that Meryl Streep to come out and take a stand against what's happening in the industry.

01:23:58.000 And they won't do it.

01:23:58.000 They're all scared to death.

01:23:59.000 Why is it?

01:24:00.000 What do you think it is?

01:24:00.000 I mean, it's fear.

01:24:02.000 You know, I talk about this in the book very early on.

01:24:04.000 Hollywood is all about fear.

01:24:06.000 It's like fear of getting older, fear of losing the next gig, fear of your movie not making any money, fear of someone behind you who's better looking and more talented and to take your role, you know, fear of, you know, getting young, you know, getting old.

01:24:18.000 Cancelled.

01:24:19.000 Cancelled.

01:24:19.000 Well, now then you add this layer to it, and it's a whole new layer.

01:24:23.000 And they're scared.

01:24:24.000 They're just absolutely terrified.

01:24:26.000 It's why no one, very few people are saying, I mean, the Adam Carollos, the Ricky Gervaises, the Joe Rogans, they are standing up.

01:24:32.000 They're doing something about it, but they're the exception to the rule.

01:24:35.000 You think, like, Tom Hanks is afraid he might get canceled?

01:24:38.000 Tom Hanks just decided to narrate a special about Joe Biden's first year.

01:24:42.000 You know why?

01:24:44.000 Not just that he's a liberal and that's fine with him.

01:24:47.000 His movies aren't doing well right now.

01:24:49.000 He's in his 60s.

01:24:50.000 He's looking at things and thinking, maybe I should kind of, you know, secure my situation.

01:24:54.000 Nick Cerci often says that sometimes actors, when they get really woke on What's that?

01:24:58.000 Is that what it's called?

01:24:59.000 It's not about what they believe or think.

01:25:01.000 They're actually auditioning for the next role.

01:25:03.000 They want to kind of say, hey, I'm with you.

01:25:05.000 I'm in the group.

01:25:06.000 This is what I believe as well.

01:25:08.000 Come hire me.

01:25:09.000 There's like a Q is called the Q rating or something.

01:25:11.000 Is that what it's called?

01:25:12.000 I just saw the approval rating.

01:25:13.000 So what people think of you or something like that in like Hollywood, I thought the agencies

01:25:16.000 have like a number they assigned to like celebrities.

01:25:19.000 I haven't, you know, definitely true.

01:25:20.000 I haven't heard in a while, but that's, yeah, sort of the popularity, the acceptance, things like that.

01:25:24.000 I would say John Cena has the best social credit score, especially when it comes to Hollywood.

01:25:29.000 And then behind him is The Rock that also shills for the governor of California.

01:25:33.000 Yeah, this is legit.

01:25:34.000 It's called the Q score.

01:25:36.000 Wikipedia says the measurement of familiarity and appeal of a brand, celebrity or company.

01:25:40.000 So Tom Hanks does this video because he knows it's going to get attention.

01:25:44.000 Sure.

01:25:44.000 And then the agencies are going to be like, people know Tom Hanks?

01:25:47.000 Oh yeah.

01:25:47.000 No, I understand the whole mechanics behind it.

01:25:49.000 I'm just thinking, if you're Tom Hanks and you just watched the last year of this presidency, even if you voted for Biden, even if you're a left of center, even if you're a hardcore Democrat, you really want to sign on to this guy?

01:25:58.000 At this point?

01:25:59.000 What we just watched?

01:26:00.000 I mean, that kind of boggles the mind, but you see that a lot.

01:26:03.000 Did he get paid?

01:26:05.000 Who knows?

01:26:09.000 Absolutely.

01:26:10.000 The White House admittedly bought social media influencers on TikTok to promote the vaccine and their vaccine effort.

01:26:17.000 You know, it's hard for me to think to even comprehend that people like Meryl Streep, Denzel Washington are afraid of getting canceled because they're so powerful.

01:26:24.000 Well, look at Scarlett Johansson. 0.99

01:26:25.000 It's a big part of my book.

01:26:27.000 She's very beautiful.

01:26:29.000 She's very talented.

01:26:30.000 She's bankable.

01:26:31.000 When her movies come out, they make money.

01:26:33.000 So she's maybe the most powerful actress in Hollywood. 0.99

01:26:36.000 She took a role playing a trans person in a movie called Rub and Tug, and then the woke mob came after her. 0.82

01:26:43.000 Like that, I am sorry.

01:26:44.000 I'm going to be an ally.

01:26:45.000 I will do better next time.

01:26:48.000 That's the most powerful person in Hollywood.

01:26:50.000 What about other people?

01:26:51.000 You know, lower, lower, lower levels, like Afro on the movie set, an actress coming up. 1.00

01:26:57.000 What do they think when they see something like that happen?

01:26:59.000 It sends a signal.

01:27:00.000 It's like with Dave Chappelle, the most powerful comedian of our age, the GOAT.

01:27:05.000 And yet he's under constant attack now because he told a few jokes that some people didn't like.

01:27:11.000 And he starts to falter.

01:27:13.000 His last special was very much him, like, constantly addressing the criticism.

01:27:16.000 Oh yeah, sure, absolutely.

01:27:17.000 But it's the criticism, as we mentioned, of less than 2%.

01:27:20.000 It's about 1% of the U.S.

01:27:21.000 population who are active.

01:27:23.000 So you have 2% of the U.S.

01:27:24.000 population active on Twitter.

01:27:25.000 About 1.2 or so are left, because there's slightly more left than right.

01:27:30.000 And Dave Chappelle is addressing those people.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:33.000 And also, what's interesting about him is, what is the message for the other comedians?

01:27:37.000 You think they're gonna go near that material?

01:27:38.000 They're gonna think they're gonna take a chance?

01:27:40.000 If they could almost take down Dave Chappelle, and good for Netflix for standing by him, and they've done that mostly, a pretty good job of saying, we back him, we understand what's going on.

01:27:50.000 But if you're like a club comic, and you're just starting out, and you wanna kind of engage in some really challenging topics and themes, but you don't have his skill set, and you don't have his fame, I would avoid it.

01:28:01.000 You might not get work.

01:28:02.000 I talk to comedians all the time who get attacked by other comedians and who try to get them canceled.

01:28:07.000 It's fascinating.

01:28:07.000 But the system broke.

01:28:09.000 Ryan Long is enjoying tremendous success and growing rapidly because he doesn't care.

01:28:13.000 He's a funny guy.

01:28:14.000 Yep.

01:28:15.000 He's existing in this whole new, you know, he's not on Saturday Night Live.

01:28:18.000 He's not going to be on Netflix, but he's got his own little niche and he's very successful.

01:28:22.000 He's also very good.

01:28:24.000 And he's aggressively a political.

01:28:25.000 It's interesting, I think, about how figureheads are so powerful for morale.

01:28:29.000 If an army of 10,000 men is engaging another army with 8,000 men, but then the leader gets killed, the army will turn and run because they've lost command.

01:28:40.000 And if you see Tom Hanks bend the knee, then it's a similar morale-shattering effect on the people that follow and obsess over Tom Hanks.

01:28:49.000 Oh, what were you going to say?

01:28:50.000 No, go, go. 0.91

01:28:51.000 When you were writing this, did you follow like the history of this coming up in the last seven years or something?

01:28:55.000 You know, it kind of encompasses that time period.

01:28:57.000 It feels new-ish.

01:28:59.000 There have been echoes of it for a while, but it's the last three or four years where it's metastasized in a way that is so powerful.

01:29:07.000 And so, I mean, Barry Weiss's Substack page had an amazing article recently.

01:29:11.000 They had two investigative reporters dig into people.

01:29:15.000 I think they interviewed like 25 people.

01:29:16.000 Most were off the record because they're scared to death.

01:29:19.000 And they talked about how if you're a white male in Hollywood, you're out.

01:29:22.000 You don't get work.

01:29:23.000 They actively don't want to hire you.

01:29:26.000 And it's, listen, Hollywood has done a terrible job with diversity, and this is a course correction, but it's an extreme course correction.

01:29:33.000 It's way too far.

01:29:35.000 So if you're a white comic, you're in trouble. 0.60

01:29:38.000 You're not going to get the gigs.

01:29:39.000 Hollywood got shattered by internet video.

01:29:41.000 I was there in 2005, 6, 7.

01:29:43.000 I started making YouTube videos in 06, and I watched the entertainment industry start to be like, what are we going to do?

01:29:48.000 I would get called into auditions, and then they would Google my name.

01:29:52.000 For the first time in history, an actor, they would look outside of the audition for who is this guy, and they'd see crazy videos of me, and then they'd be like, I'm not touching that.

01:29:59.000 But then you see Maker Studios, a bunch of YouTubers make this company, sells to Disney for a billion dollars because they're desperate for content and for entertainment.

01:30:08.000 And instead of people going into Hollywood and getting contracted with Paramount, they're starting up their own thing now.

01:30:13.000 But for a lot of, you know, actors are marketing essentially.

01:30:16.000 When I put the name on the title, they want to, you know, people will go see it because that can pull, you know, those actors are recognizable.

01:30:23.000 With internet video, there's a lot of people and the internet really changed this.

01:30:27.000 There are people who have no business in certain industries becoming successful in certain industries by simple virtue of being famous.

01:30:33.000 You know, like the Paul brothers are boxers now.

01:30:36.000 Like, well, they're famous.

01:30:36.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:37.000 They can get draw.

01:30:38.000 They can make money.

01:30:39.000 Who cares if they're good at boxing.

01:30:41.000 We're going to make millions of dollars if we do a boxing match with them.

01:30:44.000 Rap battles, all of that stuff.

01:30:45.000 So it's the whole landscape is shifting and it's turning into, are you famous?

01:30:50.000 Are you not famous?

01:30:51.000 One interesting thing I noted, there's a new Lord of the Rings series coming to Amazon Prime.

01:30:57.000 $465 million poured into just one season.

01:31:00.000 September 2nd is coming.

01:31:01.000 So I don't know a lot about it.

01:31:02.000 They haven't released a lot about it, but they had a list of the actors who were in it.

01:31:07.000 I didn't recognize a single name.

01:31:09.000 The brand is Lord of the Rings.

01:31:11.000 Even with all that money, they went with a whole bunch of lesser known actors, because that is the property.

01:31:11.000 You don't need that.

01:31:16.000 That's the drawing.

01:31:17.000 That makes a lot of sense.

01:31:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, same with the Marvel movies.

01:31:21.000 I remember, if you look back at the old articles, it was really funny, they were sharing them on Reddit, and it was like, Marvel bets big on no names.

01:31:28.000 You know, was it Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston?

01:31:31.000 And it was like showing pictures of them, and it was like, can these movies survive?

01:31:34.000 And now they're huge!

01:31:36.000 Now they're so famous.

01:31:37.000 So they knew, and Marvel notoriously pays very, very little for their actors in these movies.

01:31:42.000 They get paid like a couple hundred grand for it.

01:31:44.000 Except for Robert Downey Jr., he was getting an obscene amount of money.

01:31:47.000 What did they report, like tens of millions of dollars?

01:31:51.000 I mean, at that point, he was the anchor of the whole franchise, so they just threw the brink's truck at him.

01:31:55.000 That's right.

01:31:56.000 And deservedly so.

01:31:58.000 Deservedly so.

01:31:59.000 It was great.

01:32:00.000 But you know what?

01:32:00.000 Now, like a lot of... It's moving to streaming, and it feels like... One thing that really bothers me with Netflix is that they'll do two seasons of a show no matter what, and then just cancel it.

01:32:11.000 It's just really like spaghetti thrown on the wall in a lot of ways.

01:32:14.000 It's also there's no transparency that Netflix will say, OK, this show is our number one show and this is number two.

01:32:20.000 But, you know, with movie theaters, you can see the grossest.

01:32:21.000 You can see what movies make each week.

01:32:23.000 A lot of these new platforms have nothing.

01:32:26.000 It's just you have to trust them.

01:32:27.000 So we don't know if it's low ratings or it's too expensive or there's some sort of behind the scenes controversy.

01:32:32.000 We have no idea.

01:32:33.000 You know what it is?

01:32:34.000 It's boring.

01:32:35.000 Groundhog Day was a great movie.

01:32:37.000 Ghostbusters is a great movie.

01:32:39.000 But no one wants to take chances anymore.

01:32:41.000 And I think it was... Who was it?

01:32:45.000 Who was the guy who said no one wants to take chances anymore because you'll get cancelled?

01:32:51.000 And they thought he was saying you'll get attacked for being racist.

01:32:54.000 What he was actually saying is they'll cancel your TV show.

01:32:57.000 I can't remember who that was.

01:32:59.000 Donald Glover, maybe?

01:33:00.000 I don't know.

01:33:02.000 He was just like, nobody wants to take chances anymore because you'll get canceled.

01:33:06.000 And then everyone was like, just don't be racist.

01:33:07.000 What's the problem?

01:33:08.000 He's like, no, I mean, your show won't make it.

01:33:11.000 Like, you've got to stick to the formula.

01:33:14.000 So every movie is becoming very much the same.

01:33:16.000 They're like, let's make 12 Avatar movies because that made money.

01:33:19.000 Let's make 50 Marvel movies.

01:33:20.000 That makes money.

01:33:21.000 In your research, do you find actors that buck the system and still keep working?

01:33:25.000 Very few.

01:33:26.000 Very few.

01:33:27.000 Some comedians are able to do that.

01:33:28.000 Adam Carolla maybe is one of the best examples.

01:33:30.000 You know, but he built his own pirate ship.

01:33:32.000 That's what he calls it.

01:33:33.000 It's his own company.

01:33:34.000 So go try to cancel him.

01:33:36.000 Although one thing I will say about Adam is that no one's even trying anymore.

01:33:39.000 When you punch the bully back in the nose, they kind of go away.

01:33:42.000 But if you kind of let them influence you, then often they'll kind of own you.

01:33:46.000 You know, we...

01:33:48.000 Tina Fey is a great example.

01:33:49.000 Very funny lady.

01:33:50.000 Did a lot of great shows.

01:33:51.000 And a few years ago she was under some sort of quick, kind of early cancel culture attack.

01:33:55.000 And she said, you know what?

01:33:56.000 I'm making a policy not to explain my jokes.

01:33:58.000 Which was a great answer.

01:34:00.000 That's a good policy.

01:34:01.000 Like a year or so ago, she's all woke.

01:34:03.000 She's all into cancel culture. 1.00

01:34:04.000 I'm so glad I'm being educated.

01:34:06.000 She was basically just saying the party line.

01:34:11.000 So three years ago, four years ago, she was proud and independent.

01:34:14.000 Now she's been re-educated.

01:34:16.000 Oh, good.

01:34:17.000 I'm glad the struggle session worked and we can all go back and delete 30 Rock now.

01:34:21.000 Why?

01:34:21.000 What's she doing now?

01:34:22.000 Other than, yeah, isn't she deleting episodes of 30 Rock?

01:34:25.000 You know, she had a, I think there's a new show that might be on Peacock or something that she might be involved with.

01:34:30.000 But just, I was reading her interviews and she was talking about comedy and the, and the, and the atmosphere and things like that.

01:34:34.000 She was completely transformed.

01:34:36.000 But it's like Jimmy, Jimmy Fallon too.

01:34:38.000 He was not a very- Margaret Cho.

01:34:39.000 Margaret Cho is not funny anymore at all.

01:34:41.000 I don't think she ever was.

01:34:43.000 But I think she was more of a true believer even, I think, early on.

01:34:46.000 Interesting.

01:34:47.000 We've gone over, but we have to do this segment on the Getter Crisis Mode leaked audio.

01:34:52.000 And so this will dig into some of our Super Chat time.

01:34:54.000 But we kind of just, that's my fault, we trailed off and talked about a bunch of crazy stuff.

01:34:59.000 We could stay a little long, you guys.

01:35:01.000 But people absolutely want to know about this.

01:35:02.000 It was in the title of the video because we plan on getting into it with Joe Rogan stuff.

01:35:06.000 So here's a story from Mother Jones.

01:35:07.000 kind of crazy. Leaked messages show Getter in crisis mode over Joe Rogan criticism. They

01:35:12.000 suggest deeper involvement in the MAGA company by a controversial Chinese billionaire than

01:35:16.000 previously acknowledged. I'm not a big fan of Mother Jones.

01:35:20.000 I don't think they're always wrong, but I think they're manipulative and they're agenda

01:35:24.000 driven. And they're probably doing this story because it's bad for Getter and Getter is

01:35:28.000 MAGA. But they do have leaked audio from Miles Guo. They say, talking to Jason Miller, he

01:35:36.000 says, we don't want to do any bad things to this guy, Rogan. He says, we need to

01:35:40.000 respect him. Just explain to him what happened. This is leaked audio about how Joe Rogan

01:35:45.000 came out and criticized Getter.

01:35:46.000 The interesting thing here is, Luke, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Jason tell us that

01:35:51.000 Guo was not involved?

01:35:52.000 Or what did he say?

01:35:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I asked him directly about the involvement of Chinese money and the money that's financing the company.

01:36:01.000 We should pull up his exact comment.

01:36:03.000 But from from what I think he said, he said that, you know, the decisions are made by the company and the investors don't have say in, you know, that much in the company.

01:36:11.000 But didn't he say, like, Guo is not directly involved?

01:36:13.000 No formal role, no money or something like that?

01:36:15.000 We would have to look at that statement to be correct, but I think you're right.

01:36:20.000 But this is fascinating because, I mean, it just shows that there is apparently this involvement.

01:36:27.000 I don't know exactly what that means necessarily because Guo is this guy who comes out and is overtly anti-CCP.

01:36:33.000 But it is interesting because it's still a Chinese interest funding U.S.

01:36:36.000 companies, and I don't know, man.

01:36:38.000 I don't know if I trust that kind of stuff.

01:36:40.000 I'm definitely not a xenophobe, but... Well, firstly, that it got leaked is a little concerning, because I think you sent it to 10 people, and one of those 10 people... Is that what it was?

01:36:48.000 Yeah, Guo sent it to 10 people, that conversation, and then of that, somebody leaked it.

01:36:52.000 That's like, if you're in your inner circle, if you're 10 inner circle, someone's going to leak your stuff.

01:36:57.000 That's kind of bad news, structurally, for the company.

01:37:00.000 20 people, 20 people.

01:37:01.000 It was a one-on-one with Miller and then forwarded the exchange to a group of 20 associates.

01:37:05.000 20.

01:37:06.000 So one out of 20 people must have leaked, seems to have leaked that.

01:37:10.000 That's, that's disturbing.

01:37:12.000 I don't know if it's the biggest deal in the world, to be honest.

01:37:15.000 I'm just wondering if there's like a... It's a normal conversation that goes on in a corporation when you get bad PR.

01:37:20.000 But the question is, is this Chinese billionaire involved in a social media platform that's trying to attract all of the modesty on the board of advisors?

01:37:29.000 That's what I want to know.

01:37:30.000 Well, I don't know.

01:37:31.000 I think the question is just, it's not relevant to what you can claim.

01:37:34.000 You can have someone who's got no direct involvement, but you know they're secretly running the show.

01:37:39.000 So like if you, if there's leaked audio of you being like calling Steve Bannon and being like, do you think I should something something paint my wall brown?

01:37:46.000 Would they be like, colludes with Paint My Wall Brown?

01:37:49.000 If he was like, I need you in relation to your last guest, you gotta understand, this guy needs this, that, and this, I'm like, okay, you got it, man.

01:37:56.000 Okay, so if it was related to the show, this show, hey, I'm thinking about having someone on on Wednesday, should I?

01:38:01.000 And Steve gives you his advice, are all of a sudden you colluding with Steve Bannon?

01:38:05.000 Like, no, come on, you just asked a friend some advice.

01:38:08.000 I guess it depends on, you know, what we get out of this, to what degree.

01:38:11.000 The criticism and the fear is that there's a Chinese billionaire, regardless of what his position on the CCP.

01:38:16.000 involved with a ton of American companies.

01:38:18.000 And honestly, I've never seen you ask someone what guests you should have on, and maybe that would be a problem.

01:38:23.000 I have none of this.

01:38:24.000 Maybe that's why my perspective is that this is maybe more nefarious than it really is, because I don't have anything like this.

01:38:30.000 There's nobody that I talk to about anything.

01:38:32.000 In fact, Lydia does the bookings.

01:38:33.000 I don't do it.

01:38:35.000 She's like, not even into the microphone, just like, yeah.

01:38:37.000 Sometimes I get my friends to come and then there's usually controversy behind it.

01:38:41.000 And I'm like, what am I doing?

01:38:43.000 Sometimes they're great.

01:38:44.000 Sometimes they're tough.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

01:38:48.000 People were, there's like memes coming out of like Getter going down and it's involving me.

01:38:53.000 Like, I'm like, I don't know, man.

01:38:54.000 I just was asked questions.

01:38:57.000 So with this Chinese billionaire, I would be very cautious because I was thinking about it and I was like, well, it would be great if he were anti-CCP.

01:39:04.000 That's kind of a cool idea that somebody could flee China and come to the U.S.

01:39:07.000 and work against Chinese Communist Party.

01:39:09.000 But there is almost a better chance that he's working with the CCP.

01:39:14.000 They're paying him and he's being like, you know, like some kind of spy for them.

01:39:18.000 I don't know.

01:39:19.000 That just makes me really cautious and worried.

01:39:21.000 It's basically just leaked audio of Guo advising Miller on what to do about the Joe

01:39:26.000 Rogan situation, which is just crazy.

01:39:28.000 Regarding the CCP, like if he works for it or not, like you look at what Jack Ma, who

01:39:33.000 was a Chinese billionaire, he got ripped apart by the CCP.

01:39:36.000 He lost like half his 900 billion dollar empire.

01:39:38.000 They took a bunch of his company like they he disappeared.

01:39:41.000 They disappeared him from society for like three months and then he apologized and then

01:39:45.000 he apologized.

01:39:46.000 Wait, okay.

01:39:47.000 They sold off one of his companies.

01:39:48.000 He's the Alibaba owner of Alibaba.

01:39:50.000 And they sold off like half of his other Ali company.

01:39:52.000 I was thinking of the Apple Daily guy who also got, he was doing a daily in Hong Kong and he was imprisoned along with a bunch of his staff.

01:40:02.000 So totally different.

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 Guo fled the country.

01:40:04.000 He's not in China.

01:40:05.000 So they weren't, maybe they're not able to get to him or maybe it's, he's a plant.

01:40:09.000 I really don't know.

01:40:09.000 I don't know the guy.

01:40:10.000 Yeah.

01:40:10.000 I don't either.

01:40:11.000 I'm not confident in Getter and I, you know, hate to be that guy.

01:40:16.000 Well, it's proprietary, man.

01:40:17.000 You can't trust proprietary software.

01:40:19.000 You can't trust people telling you what it does.

01:40:21.000 Yeah, Gab's open source.

01:40:22.000 You can only trust code when it comes to social networking.

01:40:25.000 It can be tracking you.

01:40:26.000 It can be selling your data.

01:40:28.000 It can be feeding you algorithmic ads.

01:40:31.000 And they can tell you with a smile on their face, we're not doing any of that.

01:40:34.000 But unless you can inspect the code and verify it, you cannot trust.

01:40:38.000 You cannot trust any human regarding that kind of thing.

01:40:41.000 I don't know what to think about all this, to be completely honest, but I guess it is what it is, and we'll just see more information comes out.

01:40:46.000 Yeah, maybe it's something, maybe it's nothing.

01:40:47.000 Maybe, like, we know he knows Guo, and maybe they're just talking, or as Mother Jones tries framing it, it's deeper involvement than anyone realized.

01:40:54.000 He sent it to 20 getter employees?

01:40:56.000 That's kind of weird.

01:40:57.000 I guess.

01:40:58.000 Guo sent it to 20 getter employees.

01:40:59.000 Yeah, or maybe it's an attempt at generating press?

01:41:02.000 Maybe.

01:41:02.000 Yeah.

01:41:03.000 Or maybe they leaked it?

01:41:04.000 You don't think so?

01:41:07.000 I don't know.

01:41:09.000 I don't know, man.

01:41:09.000 The media's gonna jump on like the Mother Jones is doing it.

01:41:11.000 I mean, that's the template.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 Well, we'll see how that plays out, but let's go to Super Chats, because we're behind.

01:41:17.000 Whirling, yeah.

01:41:18.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at timcast.com to support our work and get access to exclusive members-only segments from the podcast and a bunch of other shows as well.

01:41:29.000 Let's read what we got.

01:41:31.000 Alright, let's see.

01:41:32.000 Araf- uh, what is this?

01:41:35.000 Araftas of Stets says, Hey Tim, came over from Crowder's show.

01:41:39.000 Didn't like you at first, I think it was the glasses, but really love the show and the work you do.

01:41:42.000 Uh, the work you folks do.

01:41:44.000 Keep it up.

01:41:45.000 I haven't worn glasses in what, like, a year and a half?

01:41:48.000 I was wearing glasses for a while before.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, because I didn't like, uh, I've always worn contacts, but I just figured, you know, I'm not gonna dry out my eyes, because afterwards I would go skate, then put my contacts in fresh, and then I would skate, and I was like, it just felt better.

01:42:02.000 But then I was just like, eh, wear my contacts, whatever.

01:42:05.000 I got good contacts, no problem.

01:42:06.000 Do you have those day-night contacts?

01:42:08.000 No, I've got dailies.

01:42:10.000 I've got the ones where you can wear them for a month.

01:42:11.000 There's like a, although Rage, you can wear them for a month and then take them out.

01:42:14.000 Did you ever see that?

01:42:15.000 Like 2006, 2005?

01:42:16.000 I wore it for eight months.

01:42:18.000 I would take them out once in a while and wash them and then put it back in and keep, because I was broke.

01:42:22.000 I was so poor.

01:42:23.000 And my eyes started to get really red and like bloodshot.

01:42:26.000 I'd take it out and it would just be a ring of red.

01:42:27.000 Yeah, there was a girl who went blind from that.

01:42:29.000 There was a girl who went blind from keeping the same contacts in.

01:42:31.000 They don't sell those anymore.

01:42:32.000 That's why I just wear glasses.

01:42:34.000 Same.

01:42:35.000 I stop wearing contacts now.

01:42:35.000 Don't have to worry about that at all.

01:42:37.000 It's not fun skating in glasses, though.

01:42:38.000 Yeah.

01:42:39.000 Well, I mean, you can, but... All right, Trent Lomelino says, I'm already puking.

01:42:43.000 No!

01:42:44.000 There's gonna be a lot of puking.

01:42:46.000 I'm sorry.

01:42:47.000 I can follow you.

01:42:48.000 I live for the change.

01:42:49.000 We are Luke, we puke.

01:42:50.000 No Luke, we puke.

01:42:51.000 Comments are a warm place in my heart.

01:42:57.000 Rob Cochran says, yay, Luke is leaving!

01:42:59.000 Now other people will be able to talk and share with me.

01:43:02.000 What?

01:43:03.000 Hey, excuse me there.

01:43:05.000 He found my alternative account.

01:43:08.000 All right, what is this?

01:43:09.000 Littletalesfarm says, here's a press five super chat for Luke.

01:43:14.000 Take care, bro, and safe travels to Florida from all of us here at Littletalesfarms.

01:43:18.000 We will be keeping up with you.

01:43:23.000 Thank you.

01:43:23.000 I gotta figure out how to keep the pressure on Bill Gates with the smooth charm.

01:43:27.000 That's right.

01:43:27.000 I'll send you talking points during the show all the time.

01:43:30.000 Did you know Bill Gates did this?

01:43:31.000 He's your insider.

01:43:34.000 Kyler Casimir says, Hey Tim, I've been enjoying the Cast Castle channel.

01:43:38.000 Good stuff.

01:43:38.000 I noticed you order out a lot for the crew.

01:43:40.000 I think the house would definitely benefit from hiring a chef.

01:43:43.000 You are correct.

01:43:44.000 Oh yeah.

01:43:44.000 We do order a lot.

01:43:46.000 We just ordered a bunch of Starbucks.

01:43:48.000 Yes.

01:43:48.000 We don't like Starbucks for being woke, but we bought a big order from Starbucks because they

01:43:52.000 ended the Vax mandate when a bunch of other companies weren't and I said I reward good

01:43:56.000 behavior. I like what they're doing. I'm gonna, you know, still be critical if, if, if, you know,

01:44:00.000 they, they come around and do stupid woke stuff or bring it back, then we'll stop buying from them. 0.98

01:44:03.000 That's how it works. But, um, I don't like it because it's like if someone puts their foot 0.97

01:44:07.000 on your neck and then eventually they take it off and you're like, oh, thank you so much for

01:44:10.000 taking your foot off my neck. Let me buy. 1.00

01:44:12.000 You're a good guy now, but it's like they put you in that position to be going, not Starbucks.

01:44:15.000 Yeah, but it's a little different.

01:44:16.000 The difference is it's a big corporation that's doing a whole bunch of things and we're trying to push it in the right direction.

01:44:21.000 Right.

01:44:21.000 So, you know, I see your point though.

01:44:25.000 I get it.

01:44:25.000 I see your point.

01:44:26.000 But I want to add, at the new facility which is currently being built, we will have a chef.

01:44:32.000 Yeah, so people have told me, too, they don't think that you should reward Starbucks for doing something good just because they didn't do the right thing in the first place.

01:44:38.000 Then they will get woker.

01:44:39.000 Jordan Peterson says, if someone does something right, you reward them for it.

01:44:43.000 That's the only way to get them to do more of that thing.

01:44:45.000 And I think he's right about that.

01:44:47.000 So I think it's the right thing to do.

01:44:48.000 If you don't engage, then Starbucks just goes, well, we tried, but they don't care anyway.

01:44:54.000 So let's just keep pushing woke where we can make money.

01:44:56.000 Nah, it's not about what Starbucks is doing.

01:44:58.000 It's about winning influence, winning friends and influence.

01:45:01.000 All right.

01:45:02.000 Garret says, Stephen Colbert lived long enough to become a villain. 1.00

01:45:05.000 It's pathetic. 0.97

01:45:06.000 He's against the country that gave him this opportunity for cheap CBS bucks. 1.00

01:45:09.000 He's a manure spreader now. 1.00

01:45:12.000 Yo, it was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. 0.97

01:45:14.000 When Kirsten Sinema, who correctly said the filibuster is like a safeguard that makes sure that, you know, that legislation has broader support in this country, he goes, no, no, the side that's filibustering represents 41 million people less. 0.96

01:45:28.000 As if the people of Illinois are literally every single person's a Democrat.

01:45:31.000 Yeah, Illinois is like split.

01:45:33.000 All of these blue states are fairly evenly split, except for California, which is like two to one Democrat-Republican.

01:45:39.000 So, when you look at the country as a whole, the people of these states should not be blindly marching behind Democrats because they're ignoring conservative constituents, so you get Sinema and Manchin who are like, I'm gonna respect that my state's fairly moderate.

01:45:51.000 Colbert is wrong.

01:45:53.000 Cristiano says, Oh, my gems!

01:45:55.000 I have an amethyst right here.

01:45:58.000 If you guys aren't watching the Cast Castle vlog, you're missing out.

01:46:03.000 So it's basically Seamus and Chris engaging in enhanced interrogations to figure out who's spreading rumors about Seamus.

01:46:11.000 And they put Ian on an inversion table and flip them upside down and gems go flying everywhere.

01:46:16.000 My gems!

01:46:23.000 I didn't see that.

01:46:24.000 Live, live or live, live Dave Smith, he recently made a mistake.

01:46:29.000 He blamed Alex Jones for helping to incite the crowd on January 6th.

01:46:32.000 I think Dave has Alex Jones derangement syndrome.

01:46:34.000 Get him back on with Alex and Malik.

01:46:36.000 Is that true that Dave said that?

01:46:37.000 I didn't see that. Love Dave Smith, I bet is what he meant.

01:46:39.000 No, no, no, he says, Oh, okay, right, right, right,

01:46:42.000 but he recently made a mistake.

01:46:44.000 Alex is on camera saying, don't go to the, don't go in the Capitol, stay out.

01:46:47.000 They're trying to trick you.

01:46:48.000 Alex was very adamantly, and he had a permit too, I'm pretty sure, right?

01:46:51.000 I think so, yeah.

01:46:53.000 He knows what to do.

01:46:55.000 John White says, please use this for gas to get the mobile studio to Florida.

01:46:59.000 We will miss Luke, but his nomad status is part of the overall Luke package that we will love.

01:47:03.000 Stay real and keep making new shirts and words much love.

01:47:06.000 Yeah, I mean, the Radowski has to Radowski.

01:47:09.000 I gotta get moving.

01:47:10.000 We actually had our RV tech come out today for measurements and then within the next couple of weeks they're going to be finalizing the new RV mobile system.

01:47:19.000 We got a different one.

01:47:20.000 It's a better system.

01:47:21.000 It's going to have a solar system on it and an insane amount of electricity.

01:47:24.000 So we're going to be able to power this thing independently without needing outlets and stuff.

01:47:29.000 So that way we can go down to Florida.

01:47:30.000 I think we're aiming for mid to the end of February because there's a couple big events that are happening.

01:47:35.000 And then we're going to try and take the show on the road periodically and do like what we did in Austin, which was amazing.

01:47:41.000 And it'll be really cool because if we, you know, we had plans to go to the Daily Wire's headquarters, but imagine just doing a ridiculous cacophony show with Daily Wire hosts.

01:47:49.000 I mean, just come to Florida, you know, once a month for three to four weeks.

01:47:53.000 I think it would be a great idea.

01:47:56.000 There's so much.

01:47:57.000 I mean, live events in Florida would go crazy.

01:48:00.000 Crazy right now.

01:48:01.000 We got to do it.

01:48:02.000 Here's a good one Buffalo Roe says in reference to the Rogan letter when Einstein was challenged by Nazis with a publication 100 scientists against Einstein.

01:48:10.000 He replied why 100 if I was wrong, it would only take one Could you say congratulations to my wife Nicole?

01:48:16.000 She's expecting a fourth child Wow. 0.76

01:48:17.000 Congratulations Congrats All right, let's see.

01:48:23.000 Ian Hall says, bro, androgynous and tiny, Disney has been pushing that for years.

01:48:29.000 It's a small world.

01:48:35.000 Alright, Joseph says, Tom McDonald's new song dropped today called New World Order.

01:48:40.000 Coincidence?

01:48:40.000 Luke mentions New World Order?

01:48:42.000 I mention it every show, along with Bill Gates and Build Back Better.

01:48:47.000 Wasn't there a Twitter fact check on the New World Order?

01:48:50.000 I don't remember.

01:48:50.000 There probably was, but it's how absurd our society is.

01:48:54.000 Mikhail says modern war is 5% kinetic, 15% economy, and 80% information.

01:49:00.000 Ericsson controls telecom in 184 countries.

01:49:03.000 This gets them blackmail information.

01:49:04.000 This gets them power.

01:49:06.000 Did you realize Ericsson controls AT&T?

01:49:08.000 Is that true?

01:49:09.000 I don't know.

01:49:10.000 This is the first I've heard of Ericsson.

01:49:12.000 Did someone look up that Twitter New World Order thing?

01:49:15.000 It was funny.

01:49:15.000 I'm pretty sure they did.

01:49:17.000 A Swedish multinational networking and telecommunications company headquartered in Stockholm is Ericsson.

01:49:23.000 Oh, that's not the Twitter thing I signed up for.

01:49:24.000 Telefonaktibolaget L.M.

01:49:26.000 Erickson is the name of the company.

01:49:27.000 This is a reference to Luke.

01:49:30.000 Luke brought it up, but he said, politicians already go to the island after their terms.

01:49:33.000 Epstein Island.

01:49:34.000 Absolutely.

01:49:37.000 I think a bunch of people brought made similar jokes.

01:49:40.000 Omega says Ian is correct.

01:49:41.000 Caligula insulted the Senate by practically saying that he would make his horse a senator, basically saying my horse can do better.

01:49:47.000 Yep.

01:49:48.000 Yeah, but let's be real.

01:49:49.000 Like when that dog was made mayor of that town, everybody really appreciated it.

01:49:53.000 And that cat, Alaska.

01:49:54.000 Oh, really?

01:49:55.000 Yeah, he's been mayor for a long time.

01:49:56.000 People are like, we don't need politicians.

01:49:58.000 Best mayor we've ever had.

01:50:00.000 Jared says, Tim, you need to have Dan Bongino on the show to talk about what he is doing with the Parallel Economy.

01:50:05.000 Russiagate, maybe even some Secret Service stuff.

01:50:06.000 That'd make a great show.

01:50:08.000 Dan Bongino would absolutely be welcome on the show.

01:50:10.000 But he does his own show.

01:50:11.000 Very busy.

01:50:12.000 And it's a very, very big show.

01:50:13.000 So, you know, probably busy guy.

01:50:16.000 But would love to have him.

01:50:18.000 It would be great to have him and a few other people, maybe.

01:50:20.000 We could do a big, crazy show.

01:50:21.000 That'd be awesome.

01:50:24.000 All right, let's see.

01:50:25.000 Have you thought about having Mooney on your show?

01:50:27.000 Is that what it says? Healthinator?

01:50:28.000 With West Virginia losing a House seat, merging both panhandle districts,

01:50:32.000 many in my area are not happy with McKinley, but hear good things about Mooney.

01:50:36.000 Have you thought about having Mooney on your show?

01:50:38.000 I not know. I don't know a whole lot about a lot of the West Virginia politicians

01:50:43.000 because I have not been there that long.

01:50:44.000 But and also I don't know, you know, to get into local politics.

01:50:50.000 Well, maybe.

01:50:51.000 Let's put it that way.

01:50:52.000 I think maybe that would be a good idea, actually, to talk about West Virginia, because everybody talks about Florida, New Hampshire, and Texas, and I think West Virginia does some good stuff, too, and they can do a lot better, and maybe by bringing some of these people on and asking these questions, West Virginia can do even better.

01:51:07.000 And then everyone's gonna be like, I can't believe you made America Florida, Luke, you should make America West Virginia!

01:51:12.000 West Virginia is awesome, man.

01:51:14.000 Look, I guess it's because I grew up in a more similar climate than, you know, Florida.

01:51:20.000 It's tropical.

01:51:21.000 I just, it's not my thing.

01:51:22.000 If it wasn't for Florida, there would be lockdowns, there would be mandates.

01:51:25.000 There was the only state that first stood up against all that nonsense.

01:51:28.000 The fight is there.

01:51:29.000 No, Florida.

01:51:30.000 I mean, DeSantis, on the large scale, especially with the corporate media, the attention was all on Florida.

01:51:36.000 They were saying it was going to be a bloodbath.

01:51:38.000 They made the first stand.

01:51:39.000 They made a very strong one.

01:51:40.000 So the fight is there.

01:51:42.000 There's an election there.

01:51:43.000 There's a lot of energy there.

01:51:44.000 It's going to get absolutely crazy.

01:51:46.000 So that's my personal belief.

01:51:48.000 I want to invest and build, especially with the Bitcoin community down there in Miami.

01:51:51.000 There's a lot of incredible things happening.

01:51:53.000 And in Puerto Rico, too.

01:51:53.000 Absolutely.

01:51:54.000 Jay Stewart says, wait, they gave Cyborg a laser?

01:51:57.000 No, no, no.

01:51:58.000 It's a freaking sonic cannon, not a laser, not a gun. 0.91

01:52:00.000 It's a souped-up megaphone. 0.97

01:52:02.000 Writers, get your own lore correct or stop writing.

01:52:04.000 Jay, Jay, whoa, whoa, slow down there.

01:52:06.000 I was talking about Arsenal, not Cyborg.

01:52:09.000 Arsenal is the original Roy Harper, who was frozen by Lex Luthor, and then the clone went on to become Red Arrow, but Uh, because of the freezing, I guess he lost his arm or something, so they gave him a robot arm which could shoot lasers.

01:52:21.000 And I was watching that, and I'm like, it's just some kid with a gun.

01:52:24.000 Like, could you imagine if, like, we're superheroes and it was just teenagers with guns?

01:52:27.000 Like, we would think that's really messed up.

01:52:29.000 Yeah, I liked Cable, you know, from X-Force.

01:52:31.000 Oh, he's cool.

01:52:32.000 He just had a big rifle, but he also had cyberkinetic powers.

01:52:35.000 Could he absorb energy or no?

01:52:37.000 He didn't, did he?

01:52:37.000 I don't think he, no.

01:52:38.000 What was his power?

01:52:39.000 He was, like, psychokinetic.

01:52:41.000 He could move stuff with his mind.

01:52:42.000 Really?

01:52:43.000 I think that's it, yeah.

01:52:44.000 Do you know, one of the things, when you have kids now, one of the things you have to tell them is not to make any jokes about school shootings.

01:52:50.000 Or kids with guns.

01:52:51.000 Don't eat a Pop-Tart in the shape of a gun, you'll get arrested.

01:52:53.000 Nothing like that.

01:52:54.000 Or draw one.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, no, yeah, we talk about that.

01:52:57.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:52:58.000 When I was a kid and the teacher was talking, I'd be drawing little doodles of stick figures fighting and, like, firing guns at each other and, you know, flamethrowers fighting dragons.

01:53:07.000 Now you'll just get kicked out of school.

01:53:08.000 You'll go to jail.

01:53:09.000 Literally.

01:53:11.000 You're under arrest, son.

01:53:13.000 I'm seven!

01:53:15.000 You want to go to the museum without your VACs pass?

01:53:18.000 Jail.

01:53:18.000 Do you know what it's resulted in, though?

01:53:21.000 My son and his friends joke about how frying pans are actually the best weapons.

01:53:27.000 All right, Caleb says, yo, I would love to smoke a fatty with Ian and just ask him random theological questions and let him go.

01:53:33.000 It would be like winding up the symbols monkey and let home bang away at the strange.

01:53:38.000 And I'm sorry if I'm doing it and I'm not listening to you for a second.

01:53:42.000 It's tough to like channel your feelings and your thoughts and still listen to your environment.

01:53:47.000 But if you can master the two of them together or like impulsively.

01:53:51.000 happening back and forth really quickly.

01:53:52.000 It's like playing in a band with someone.

01:53:55.000 You want to take control and speak the truth, but also be listening to their truth and make it blend.

01:54:03.000 So let's do that.

01:54:05.000 All right.

01:54:06.000 First, it's a date.

01:54:09.000 1 Thessalonians says the Bible foretells of the New World Order in Daniel chapter 2 and 7, 12, Revelation 13.

01:54:15.000 If it was right about the technocratic takeover of humanity, it is for sure right about Jesus Christ.

01:54:23.000 I will say, man, when I learned about the Mark of the Beast, in order to buy, sell, or trade, you need the Mark of the Beast, someone superchatted that to us and I was like, there's no way it's that specific.

01:54:34.000 That's crazy.

01:54:35.000 And then I looked and I was like, whoa, that's true.

01:54:38.000 That's crazy that it says that, man.

01:54:39.000 Cause that's basically what was happening.

01:54:41.000 What if it's all true?

01:54:42.000 Do you guys think it's true?

01:54:43.000 Do you think it's true?

01:54:44.000 The whole Bible?

01:54:44.000 Revelation?

01:54:45.000 Revelations?

01:54:46.000 Revelations.

01:54:47.000 Was it revelation?

01:54:48.000 No S. No S. Just revelation?

01:54:50.000 Revelation.

01:54:51.000 Yeah.

01:54:52.000 Um, so, uh, I was looking at a passage last night and I think that people wildly misinterpret revelation, including Christians.

01:54:58.000 So I don't think there's any kind of consensus on that book.

01:55:01.000 It is crazy.

01:55:02.000 It reads a little bit like a drug fueled dream.

01:55:04.000 Um, so I don't think that we're going to understand it until, you know, maybe until we go to heaven or something.

01:55:09.000 Until after it happens, you can go, oh, there it was.

01:55:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:55:12.000 Because otherwise people are like, could it be?

01:55:14.000 A lot of people were saying that like some alignment in the sky was like some reference that was happening or something.

01:55:19.000 Just kind of suits their interpretation at this point.

01:55:22.000 John says, shout out to my girl Libby. 0.96

01:55:24.000 Admire your faith.

01:55:25.000 You are a class act.

01:55:27.000 Aw, thanks.

01:55:28.000 There you go.

01:55:28.000 She's a classy broad.

01:55:30.000 Do you guys see that Joe Rogan had Robert Epstein on his show?

01:55:32.000 No.

01:55:34.000 Yeah, he's the guy who talks about how Google manipulates the system and can change votes.

01:55:38.000 So the one free man says, Robert Epstein didn't kill himself.

01:55:44.000 Wow.

01:55:45.000 I don't know if you can make those shirts just yet, Luke.

01:55:47.000 Hold on to that thought.

01:55:48.000 Hopefully you never have to, to be honest.

01:55:51.000 That's a scary thought.

01:55:54.000 David says, did you hear Aaron Rodgers call out Biden and his super duper 81 million votes and how Biden called him out on getting vaxxed on ESPN today?

01:56:03.000 There was some like statement by Aaron Rodgers was amazing.

01:56:06.000 He was talking about censorship.

01:56:07.000 Did you guys see that?

01:56:08.000 Yeah, he was just like, when are the people censoring information and trying to restrict thought?

01:56:12.000 The good guys.

01:56:13.000 Yeah.

01:56:13.000 They're not!

01:56:14.000 Yeah, they're never the good guy.

01:56:15.000 He's been on fire.

01:56:16.000 That's a good statement.

01:56:17.000 When you get personally bitten by the situation, by the narrative, you come roaring back.

01:56:21.000 That's why Joe Rogan, I think that CNN horse dewormer thing, I think that really kind of lit a fire under him.

01:56:27.000 You know what's interesting, though?

01:56:28.000 I don't know if it's interesting, but... We'll be the judge of that.

01:56:32.000 We don't see a lot of women doing this. 1.00

01:56:34.000 Speaking out, fighting back, pushing back against Hollywood, against these woke narratives.

01:56:38.000 J.K.

01:56:38.000 Rowling, just by standing Yeah, I mean, by standing her ground, she has for sure.

01:56:44.000 I agree.

01:56:44.000 But shout out to Aaron Rodgers and also Kyrie Irving.

01:56:47.000 I usually have their jerseys behind me.

01:56:49.000 And they both of them have been doing really amazing.

01:56:52.000 And I'm going to I'm going to get a meatloaf poster.

01:56:55.000 Yeah, I'm going to get a big sweet meatloaf poster.

01:56:57.000 Yeah.

01:56:57.000 So when I when I heard the news, I posted the song Kickapoo from Tenacious D, which is a great song.

01:57:02.000 It's a hilarious movie.

01:57:03.000 You guys know this one.

01:57:04.000 Meatloaf sings along with with Jack Black.

01:57:08.000 Love that movie, man.

01:57:10.000 And Meatloaf was a good dude.

01:57:12.000 He believed in freedom.

01:57:12.000 Much respect.

01:57:14.000 So we'll get a poster for him up here.

01:57:17.000 John says, my dad thinks you're a grifter and puts you with Hendy and Tucker.

01:57:21.000 It's a shame. 0.97

01:57:22.000 He did finally admit Fauci is corrupt and needs to go, though.

01:57:25.000 I'm not the biggest fan of Hannity.

01:57:27.000 I don't think... So, you know, Hannity to me feels canned.

01:57:30.000 I don't know if grifter is the right word.

01:57:31.000 Tucker, I think, is legit.

01:57:33.000 I think Tucker believes what he believes, and the reason I think that is because his opinions have changed and he's admitted he was wrong about a lot of things.

01:57:38.000 He has no reason to do that unless, I guess, he's grifting or whatever, but I don't see it.

01:57:42.000 He's actually gone further than I would expect him to based on a lot of things he said, and he's also resisted saying some things that could have made him money.

01:57:48.000 I think Tucker legitimately started talking to people and had some, you know, political changes.

01:57:54.000 As for me, it's funny because my politics are like the same for the most parts of the Second Amendment.

01:57:59.000 The people who've like followed me for the past 10 years or whatever are like, he just says a lot of the same stuff over and over again.

01:58:03.000 It's boring.

01:58:04.000 But for people who don't watch it, they're like, someone on the left said you're a grifter, so it must be true.

01:58:08.000 So your view on the Second Amendment has changed?

01:58:11.000 Yeah, I used to be kind of like, you know, people should have a right to have guns, but I think there's like a discussion we can have about, you know, gun ownership and what makes sense. 0.99

01:58:18.000 And now you're like, fuck no. 0.58

01:58:20.000 Yeah, I used to be like, well, no, I used to be like, maybe there's insurance, you know, would make sense, maybe that could help people. 0.99

01:58:27.000 And then I had a few conversations.

01:58:30.000 And then my point, my view basically became, well, the Constitution says it.

01:58:34.000 So if you want to change it, change the Constitution.

01:58:35.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 If that being said, then there should be no NFA, there should be no ETF, there should be none of these things.

01:58:42.000 It just feels like the Democrats and the anti-gun people, the authoritarians, it's basically the authoritarians. 0.91

01:58:47.000 If you want to take guns away, you're just a crackpot despot. 0.94

01:58:49.000 That's it.

01:58:50.000 Anybody who believes in freedom is going to be like, you should have a right to have a gun.

01:58:53.000 I think that tabletop fusion is like here and they're afraid to give people that power.

01:58:57.000 It's like a big, like giving them a rocket launcher.

01:59:00.000 But like it's so easy to fuse hydrogen with a palladium substrate, heavy hydrogen, deuterium.

01:59:04.000 Like they're doing it.

01:59:05.000 They do it experimentally, but it produces so much energy.

01:59:08.000 You ever hear about that dude who made a radioactive death laser in his garage?

01:59:12.000 No.

01:59:12.000 He was taking the, um, what is it called, americium?

01:59:15.000 Is that how you pronounce it?

01:59:16.000 I don't know.

01:59:18.000 Look it up for me, I don't know how to pronounce it.

01:59:20.000 He was taking it out of smoke detectors, I guess, and it's radioactive.

01:59:23.000 And then he made a gigantic critical mass with like tens of thousands or something like that.

01:59:27.000 And then the Feds dropped in on him immediately and arrested him.

01:59:32.000 But apparently they gave him a chance to work with the government.

01:59:36.000 Like, if you want to do this, we'll put you in a lab, we'll fund everything you do.

01:59:39.000 What they did was crazy.

01:59:41.000 And so he went out and started trying to make a radioactive critical mass, and he was covered in lesions.

01:59:47.000 You can't, ladies and gentlemen, read the story, avoid that stuff.

01:59:49.000 David Hahn?

01:59:50.000 Was that his name?

01:59:51.000 Is that who?

01:59:52.000 I don't know.

01:59:52.000 Guy who diligently amassed radioactive material by collecting small amounts from household products.

01:59:56.000 That makes sense.

01:59:57.000 Sounds about right.

01:59:58.000 Something I read somewhere.

02:00:00.000 Yeah, this says it's americium or something.

02:00:03.000 241 is used as a radionuclide in this type of smoke detector.

02:00:08.000 Is it on your periodic table of the elements?

02:00:10.000 Yeah, it's number 241.

02:00:11.000 Is that right?

02:00:11.000 I think it's a synthetic.

02:00:13.000 Well, you have it right there.

02:00:14.000 Placed between two electrically charged plates.

02:00:16.000 So there's nuclear... Yeah, apparently he like put them all, he mashed this critical mass into some kind of metal box or lead box that had a hole in it so it was all focused. 0.93

02:00:27.000 And then they knew he did it as soon as he did it, and they stormed it like, what are you doing, you insane person?

02:00:33.000 You say the people that are hiding the information are never the good guys, but I wonder if someone came out and was like, oh, and by the way, if you want to create world-ending explosives, here's how.

02:00:43.000 That wouldn't be a good guy either, necessarily.

02:00:44.000 Aren't the blueprints for nuclear bombs just on the internet?

02:00:48.000 Can't you just read it in university?

02:00:50.000 You don't have the infrastructure to build something like that. 0.98

02:00:52.000 But this guy is apparently crazy. 1.00

02:00:54.000 Yeah, he is schizoid. 0.99

02:00:55.000 That was fun.

02:00:56.000 Hey man, thanks for hanging out on this crazy Friday night.

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02:01:25.000 Yeah, my new book is Virtue Bombs, How Hollywood Got Woke and Lost its Soul.

02:01:29.000 Is it, where can they get it?

02:01:30.000 Everywhere.

02:01:31.000 Amazon, you name it.

02:01:31.000 Oh, right on.

02:01:32.000 You have a social media at all or anything?

02:01:34.000 Yeah, I'm at HollywoodInToto on Twitter, and my podcast is Right on Hollywood.

02:01:40.000 Right on.

02:01:40.000 You want to shout anything out, Libby?

02:01:42.000 Yeah, I'm Libby Emmons.

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02:01:59.000 You can watch my videos on YouTube.com forward slash We Are Change.

02:02:02.000 I also have a lot of pretty exciting, weird, unusual things going on on LukeUncensored.com.

02:02:08.000 And it's going to be hard to leave, but you know, deep down, I am a Polish Florida man.

02:02:13.000 And never forget freedom.

02:02:15.000 Someone said this before, I forgot exactly who, but freedom is the oxygen of the soul.

02:02:19.000 So thanks for having me.

02:02:20.000 I'm going to miss you, Luke.

02:02:21.000 It's been fun the last few months, last year, whatever it's been.

02:02:24.000 But I know you're going to make Florida great, so I'm glad you're going.

02:02:28.000 And I'll see you soon.

02:02:29.000 Bye, everyone.

02:02:30.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:02:31.000 Check me out at iancrossland.net.

02:02:32.000 I'll see you later.

02:02:33.000 I had fun on this last show with Luke talking about everything from Caligula's horse.

02:02:37.000 Well, my truck may break down, by the way.

02:02:39.000 If my truck breaks down, I'm going to be here for a few more days.

02:02:42.000 Luke's coming right back.

02:02:43.000 We'll see what happens.

02:02:43.000 But there's other situations.

02:02:46.000 Practically, I hope, you never know what RV life is like.

02:02:48.000 Well, we hope that Luke's able to make it down to Florida because that's where he really wants to be.

02:02:52.000 Trying to get rid of me, Linda? 0.99

02:02:53.000 Yeah, you know, just a little.

02:02:54.000 No, just kidding.

02:02:56.000 Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets.

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02:03:05.000 Other than that, we'll be back on Monday.

02:03:08.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 22, 2022

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