Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Pfizer Sponsors SATANIC Grammy's Show, Gets SLAMMED w-John Rich

00:00:00.000 What an interesting past week or weekend.

00:00:17.000 Did you guys know that the Grammys happened?

00:00:20.000 Because I didn't.

00:00:22.000 Most people probably don't.

00:00:23.000 Their ratings are in the gutter.

00:00:24.000 They're down to like 9 million from a peak of 39 million 10 years ago.

00:00:29.000 So nobody's watching.

00:00:30.000 But I guess in a desperate attempt to be relevant, they staged a satanic Grammy performance with Sam Smith and Kim Petras Sponsored by Pfizer!

00:00:39.000 And it really is that sponsored by Pfizer which made everybody laugh because I don't think it's big news that an award show did something unholy or whatever.

00:00:48.000 They try and do edgy, satanic stuff all the time.

00:00:51.000 I mean, we've seen this stuff going back forever.

00:00:53.000 People trying to be shocking or whatever.

00:00:56.000 But this one was interesting because one of the performers, Kim Petras, is mostly well-known for getting a sex change operation as a child.

00:01:05.000 And so, you have this individual up on stage being congratulated as the first trans woman for receiving the award.

00:01:10.000 And so, there's more to the conversation than just a satanic performance. 0.69

00:01:13.000 This is a standing ovation from Hollywood for child sex change surgery.

00:01:17.000 So, of course, there's a lot to talk about.

00:01:20.000 Insofar as the Grammys are an attempt at a cultural institution, I mean, they were at one point.

00:01:25.000 Not so much anymore, but that's probably good news and we'll talk about that.

00:01:27.000 Plus, The balloon!

00:01:28.000 It was shot down.

00:01:31.000 Then all of a sudden, we get this report from an anonymous official saying that, well, under Trump, it happened three times.

00:01:36.000 Then you get three former top officials named saying, never happened.

00:01:41.000 And even if it did, like, or, and you know how you know it didn't happen?

00:01:45.000 Because nobody saw it.

00:01:46.000 Nobody took a picture of it.

00:01:47.000 No pilots complained.

00:01:48.000 There was no, there was no reports from any aviation industry company or individual like this one.

00:01:54.000 We discovered it because people saw it happen.

00:01:57.000 So it turns out probably one big lie.

00:01:59.000 Now they're claiming actually the Biden administration only just discovered that three times the balloon traveled over the U.S.

00:02:06.000 during the Trump administration and just nobody knew.

00:02:08.000 It's amazing how that stuff works. 0.87

00:02:10.000 So we'll talk about that and a bunch of other ridiculous stories.

00:02:13.000 Apparently Hunter Biden is being touted as like the next great artist or some kind of

00:02:17.000 great artist.

00:02:18.000 And there's an article talking about his paintings being sold for half a million dollars a piece.

00:02:22.000 And we've known about this, but you know, we've got to talk about it.

00:02:25.000 And then there's a famous pro surfer female who is threatening to boycott the World Surf 0.79

00:02:30.000 League unless they stop their new rule, which would allow biological males to compete against 0.96

00:02:37.000 So, this is really interesting.

00:02:37.000 It has to do with more trans issues.

00:02:39.000 So, we'll talk all about that.

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00:03:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all this and a whole lot more is John Rich.

00:03:13.000 Hey Tim.

00:03:14.000 John Rich, who are you?

00:03:15.000 I am a good old boy from Nashville, and I love your show, make a little country music, and you know, you guys came through Nashville, we got to hang out a little bit, just a little, so I thought I would come up to your neck of the woods and see what's going on up here.

00:03:28.000 Right on.

00:03:29.000 And you got a new song coming out soon?

00:03:31.000 Is that what's going on?

00:03:31.000 Man, I got something cool happening, so, you know, making country music my whole life, big and rich and all that.

00:03:36.000 But I became a fan of this guy during the pandemic.

00:03:41.000 Started scrolling through, watching videos, and I run across this guy, and I went, what in the world is that?

00:03:46.000 And the deeper I got into his music, I thought, this guy's dropping more hammers per square inch in these lyrics than maybe anybody I've ever heard, and it's Tom McDonald.

00:03:55.000 I went, this Tom McDonald guy is vicious, so I went and followed him on Twitter.

00:04:00.000 And a couple days later, I checked, and he was following me on Twitter.

00:04:02.000 I said, okay, I can send him a message.

00:04:04.000 So I sent him a message.

00:04:05.000 I said, hey, I'm a country guy, big fan.

00:04:08.000 What do you know?

00:04:08.000 He knew my music.

00:04:09.000 And so we started talking back in that summer and just kept in contact.

00:04:14.000 And he hit me up, oh, probably a couple months ago, and he says, hey, man, I've got this song called The End of the World.

00:04:20.000 Do you want to hear it?

00:04:20.000 I said, well, hell yeah!

00:04:22.000 I don't hear anything from Tom McDonald.

00:04:25.000 He sends me the song, and it was just brilliant, as it always is with him.

00:04:28.000 He goes, you want to sing the choruses, man?

00:04:29.000 I said, me and you, like a duet?

00:04:31.000 You know, like together?

00:04:32.000 He goes, yeah.

00:04:33.000 I go, wow, the cowboy and the rapper with the face tattoos from California doing a song together?

00:04:38.000 He goes, yeah, man, if you want.

00:04:40.000 So I sang on it, and it turned out really great, and I'm working on shooting the video, and we'll put it out.

00:04:45.000 It's up to Tom when it comes out, but he says very soon.

00:04:47.000 It's probably the end of this month or next month, so be on the lookout for that.

00:04:51.000 Cool, man.

00:04:51.000 Thanks for joining us.

00:04:52.000 It should be a lot of fun.

00:04:52.000 We also got Hannah-Claire hanging out.

00:04:54.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:04:55.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:04:57.000 I also occasionally go on PopCultureCrisis.

00:04:59.000 I'm working on making my intro longer, per request.

00:05:02.000 But yeah, thanks for having me on tonight.

00:05:04.000 That was awesome.

00:05:06.000 John, awesome to see you again, my man.

00:05:07.000 You too.

00:05:08.000 Yo, we went to your house.

00:05:09.000 I know.

00:05:09.000 We took a tour.

00:05:10.000 The place is phenomenal.

00:05:11.000 You got a huge stage we played on.

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:13.000 Saw the rooftop garden.

00:05:14.000 Not really a garden.

00:05:15.000 Mostly grass and things like that on the roof.

00:05:17.000 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 Thanks again.

00:05:18.000 It was excellent.

00:05:19.000 This is incredible feelings from that Nashville visit.

00:05:22.000 I hope to do it again.

00:05:22.000 Someday you have to do this show from that stage in the house and like set the band up and do the whole thing.

00:05:27.000 Oh, that's perfect.

00:05:27.000 Sounds good.

00:05:28.000 Let's do it.

00:05:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:28.000 Rock and roll.

00:05:29.000 Yeah.

00:05:29.000 Hell yeah.

00:05:30.000 Next time we're in Nashville.

00:05:31.000 I'm Ian Crosland.

00:05:32.000 If you don't know it, check it.

00:05:33.000 Serge Duprea.

00:05:34.000 What's up?

00:05:35.000 I am AtSurge.com on Twitter.

00:05:37.000 I'm ready to get started.

00:05:38.000 All right.

00:05:38.000 Here's the first story.

00:05:40.000 We got this from the Post Millennial.

00:05:41.000 Breaking! 0.79

00:05:43.000 Sam Smith stages satanic Grammy performance with strippers and devil horns.

00:05:49.000 Petrus danced in the cage.

00:05:50.000 Smith wore devil horns while dancers in long red robes with straight hair fawned around him in a ritual circle.

00:05:57.000 Alright, I'm gonna say it.

00:05:58.000 First off, and first and foremost, yeah, I don't really care about artistic, faux, satanic, whatever.

00:06:06.000 But there's more to the story than just a performance at the Grammys.

00:06:08.000 I think it was Brett Dasovic from Pop Culture Crisis was mentioning that Marilyn Manson did stuff like this in the 90s.

00:06:15.000 It's not shocking to be edgy and be like, ooh, I'm gonna wear devil horns.

00:06:18.000 But there's a couple things about it.

00:06:20.000 Notably, that we have this tweet.

00:06:22.000 Brought to you by Pfizer!

00:06:25.000 Let's play it.

00:06:26.000 So you've got, you know, Kim Petras and Sam Smith, you know, cheering and getting some award and then this.

00:06:31.000 ["The 60s"]

00:06:39.000 It just really feels like, um, a trifecta of right-wing talking points happening all at the same time.

00:06:46.000 You have a song called Unholy, satanic imagery, brought to you by Pfizer, and one of the individuals, Kim Petras, is famous, I believe Kim is from Germany, and is famous for appearing in a documentary requesting a sex change operation at the age of 13 or 14, and actually having received it as a minor.

00:07:08.000 All of these things together, we're not just talking about an artistic show that's meant to be shocking and edgy.

00:07:13.000 There actually are elements that many people are shocked by.

00:07:17.000 But I don't know, what do you guys think?

00:07:18.000 Is this people overreacting?

00:07:22.000 I don't think brought to you by Pfizer is an overreaction.

00:07:24.000 That's weird, man.

00:07:25.000 I mean, it's as far away from rock and roll as you can possibly get as corporate Pfizer, like corporate money, drug companies.

00:07:34.000 I mean, hey, they made 50, what did they make, like $50 billion?

00:07:36.000 $100 billion or something in profit?

00:07:38.000 I don't know.

00:07:39.000 What was the number?

00:07:39.000 I don't know.

00:07:40.000 Was it that much?

00:07:42.000 Pfizer?

00:07:43.000 In like one year?

00:07:44.000 Yeah, or maybe in the past two years they made like $100 billion or something.

00:07:46.000 Well, you have guaranteed government contracts.

00:07:48.000 It's basically free money, you know?

00:07:50.000 John, you've been to the Grammys multiple times, you say.

00:07:53.000 Yeah, I've been nominated for nine Grammys throughout my career.

00:07:56.000 How many satanic performances did you see?

00:07:59.000 To date, I've done a total of zero satanic performances, so I guess I'm not the cool kid anymore.

00:08:04.000 I think to see this sponsored by Pfizer, brought to you by Pfizer, I thought, oh, there's the drugs and the sex drugs and rock and roll.

00:08:11.000 Maybe that's what that is.

00:08:13.000 Just different kind of drugs.

00:08:14.000 Man.

00:08:15.000 The kind that you have to take that nobody knows what it's going to do.

00:08:17.000 Well, you ever hear that, like, I don't know, old trope of the hippie becoming the business person when they get older?

00:08:22.000 Like, the boomers were all young and wild and crazy, and then they become suits later on. 0.98

00:08:26.000 I mean, I'm wondering if the real story there is that the hippies stayed hippies and suits stayed suits.

00:08:30.000 We just assume that because boomers were hippies, boomers became suits or whatever.

00:08:36.000 But it's like, it's just a funny thought that sex drugs and rock and roll goes from being in the alley in the gutter and just STDs, doing hard drugs and playing music and just degeneracy to on a stage in a multi-million dollar, a billion dollar industry with choreography and performances and pharmaceutical drugs, not street drugs.

00:08:57.000 What I got is this isn't even really satanic.

00:08:59.000 This is like, if satanics like Ozzy Osbourne chewing the head off of a live bat.

00:09:03.000 That was an accident.

00:09:04.000 Yeah, it was an accident, but he did, and there's blood on stage.

00:09:06.000 Maybe not satanic, Ozzy, maybe not.

00:09:07.000 People pouring blood on themselves on stage.

00:09:11.000 That's a little more satanic.

00:09:12.000 This is like the image of satanism.

00:09:14.000 It's not even real satanism.

00:09:16.000 It's all faux.

00:09:17.000 They put on red and they have fire behind them, but it's even called unholy, like it's supposed to be satanic.

00:09:25.000 I don't know.

00:09:25.000 I don't know, maybe the singer who is advocating for child sex change surgery is the thing that's freaking people out.

00:09:32.000 This is Sam Smith.

00:09:33.000 I'm just gonna say Sam Smith ripped off Tom Petty with that, Won't back down, won't you stand my ground, that song that he did.

00:09:40.000 He got soaked for it and he lost, I'm pretty sure.

00:09:41.000 Yeah, Tom Petty ended up making residuals off that.

00:09:45.000 I think part of the whole performance is that it's so surface level, right?

00:09:49.000 Like, truly provocative things, your audience isn't gonna stand up and applaud afterwards and be like, so great, good job!

00:09:55.000 Like, this was, no matter, they could have done anything, they could have gone out there and done nothing, stood still, and the audience would have been like, wow, groundbreaking, amazing performance, so glad that you guys did that.

00:10:05.000 I think part of the, I think you're totally right, it's not even, a very uh original uh depiction of like satan and like semi-anti-christian imagery i think it's sort of cheap and done to make it seem like we are still counter-cultural but really they're not they are the mainstream supported by a major drug company coming out and uh promoting talking points that are more and more part of the mainstream narrative like yes everything we're doing is okay it's it's like they want to be edgy and they can't anymore

00:10:35.000 You know what I'm just not into is, it seems like the principal commentary on all this is that the performance was satanic.

00:10:43.000 And I'm just like, okay.

00:10:45.000 You know, if you want to talk about Sam Smith, non-binary, child sex change operations, Pfizer being the sponsor, let's talk about massive multi-billion dollar corporations sponsoring satanic shows. 0.93

00:10:58.000 That I can get.

00:10:58.000 But it seems like most people are just saying like, look, they wore devil horns and they were dancing in red.

00:11:02.000 I can't believe it.

00:11:03.000 This is pure evil.

00:11:04.000 And I'm like, well, what what about it?

00:11:06.000 Because I mean, are we going to seriously, we'll go back and talk about any any death metal band or like black metal in Scandinavia and all the dark demonic imagery they use.

00:11:14.000 Like, there was more backlash when Miley Cyrus came out and, like, twerked on someone at one of the award shows, right?

00:11:20.000 That's arguably more satanic.

00:11:21.000 Being sexual is like... And people were more upset about it.

00:11:24.000 You heard more of both sides being like, she's so liberated, that's inappropriate, whatever. 0.63

00:11:27.000 This, it's just like, yes, we're completely falling on party lines, right?

00:11:31.000 The people who are annoyed by it are annoyed, and the people who like it, like it.

00:11:34.000 I mean, there's no nuance to it anymore.

00:11:37.000 If it had been green light, all green, and they were wearing shamrock hats, no one would mention Satanism.

00:11:42.000 And no one would even question why it was called unholy.

00:11:45.000 So it's like the visage of evil, just to sell tickets.

00:11:49.000 They're like, look how bad we can be too.

00:11:51.000 We're Pfizer execs, look at what we can do.

00:11:53.000 It would have been an awesome show if they wore green with shamrock hats.

00:11:56.000 I would have been into it.

00:11:57.000 Then the Irish community is like, take it back immediately. 1.00

00:11:59.000 What's wrong with us?

00:12:01.000 The whole point, you spend millions and millions of dollars for visual Visual elements to music?

00:12:07.000 is to sell more music.

00:12:09.000 It's to sell music, sell tickets, it's to push the music further.

00:12:13.000 Like you got a song, you want to put a great video behind it so more people see it and hopefully love the song and it becomes your thing.

00:12:20.000 And people sit around and have really big meetings around really big tables like this at record labels and they spend tens of millions of dollars behind a lot of these artists all for marketing of the music of that artist and marketing the artist so more people will want to consume That content.

00:12:36.000 So when you look at this performance on the Grammys, they're sitting there going, what's going to make the most people like this artist, like this music, you know, come to come to the party here?

00:12:48.000 I know what.

00:12:48.000 Let's just simulate hell on stage and then let's tag it with Pfizer, which is the biggest cuss word in America right now.

00:12:57.000 This is the pitch.

00:12:58.000 So what does that what does that say about what they think about the audience, that this is what they're going to pour their money into for the visual backups of the music?

00:13:05.000 Yeah, they probably think we're really gullible and we'll bite and start talking about it on TV.

00:13:08.000 Exactly.

00:13:09.000 And we did.

00:13:10.000 I mean, I did.

00:13:11.000 I want to talk about it.

00:13:12.000 But that cuts both ways because you want people to like it.

00:13:15.000 We don't like it.

00:13:16.000 We're seeing it and we're repulsed by it.

00:13:18.000 But, you know, this is what happens with everything culture war related.

00:13:22.000 A lot of these big companies know, I'll give you an example, when Jim Jordan was talking, we'll get super political, Jim Jordan's talking with Chuck Todd on Meet the Press and he says, you know, with Donald Trump, You had the Secret Service protecting these documents.

00:13:36.000 You had them locked.

00:13:37.000 You had the DOJ actually came in and put the lock on it with Joe Biden.

00:13:39.000 They're stored in a garage. 0.97

00:13:41.000 Chuck Todd immediately comes to defense of Joe Biden, despite the fact that any sane, reasonable thinking person is going to be like, what the f*** are you talking about?

00:13:50.000 Like, Chuck Todd's like, no, no, no. 0.86

00:13:52.000 Trump did it.

00:13:53.000 Trump did it.

00:13:53.000 And it's like, he just laid out for you the details of the story.

00:13:57.000 You're not refuting them.

00:13:58.000 You're just saying, yeah, well, Trump is bad.

00:14:00.000 What they're doing is 2012 they had 39 million viewers.

00:14:05.000 The most they've ever had.

00:14:06.000 The year before it was like 29.

00:14:08.000 Typically averaged around 27, 28 million viewers.

00:14:11.000 Then there was this massive drop off from 2019 of like 18 million viewers to 8 million.

00:14:14.000 Then in 2021, I think 2020 to 2021.

00:14:15.000 Then in 2022 they had I think about 8.93 million.

00:14:17.000 They have no audience.

00:14:17.000 I think 2020 to 2021. Then in 2022, they had, I think, about 8.93 million.

00:14:24.000 They have no audience. Nobody watches. They'll take anything they can get.

00:14:30.000 They are so desperate for attention.

00:14:33.000 And I imagine there's probably some executive or somebody associated with the Grammys, and they're sitting there saying like, guys, we lost 60% of our viewers.

00:14:42.000 We're dead in the water.

00:14:43.000 What do we do?

00:14:44.000 And they were like, people aren't going to want to watch shows like this.

00:14:46.000 We need controversy.

00:14:49.000 We need to piss people off.

00:14:50.000 And here's the hope.

00:14:51.000 Get a bunch of conservatives angry, and at the very least, you will rescue a liberal audience.

00:14:57.000 So they start posting stuff like this, hoping that shows like this generate rage, but not that we will watch it.

00:15:03.000 That the tribalists in the cult will say, well, we're big fans of the Grammys, and then they will start endorsing it, and the machine will then prop up the Grammys.

00:15:10.000 I think, to your point, Beyonce won, I think she just became the most Grammy-winning artist of all time at this Grammys, right?

00:15:18.000 Beyonce is one of those things that, like, she's one of these artists that, like, can do no wrong.

00:15:22.000 And people, even if her music is bad, even if she's not interesting, even if she's involved with scandal, even if her husband or her sister is filmed hitting her husband in an elevator, like, she survives anything.

00:15:32.000 She's bulletproof.

00:15:33.000 So to be like, and we're bringing back Beyonce, who you will rally around no matter what, is sort of this way to keep an audience that You know, they're not trying to win us over, they're trying to win their base back over.

00:15:43.000 And, I mean, Beyoncé won for Renaissance, right?

00:15:47.000 This is, like, just after she performed in the Middle East, in a country that's completely anti-LGBTQ, even though her album is supposed to be based off the black LGBT experience.

00:16:00.000 Like, it doesn't make any sense.

00:16:01.000 They don't have to follow their own rules.

00:16:03.000 They just have to bring out the figureheads that they like and know that you'll cheer for them because it's making someone else angry, someone you don't like angry.

00:16:09.000 I didn't know Beyonce performed until just now.

00:16:11.000 I care so little about this whole thing.

00:16:14.000 I'm a musician and I don't even... Talk to me.

00:16:17.000 I credit all of this knowledge to Pop Culture Crisis.

00:16:20.000 I go on and they teach me about these things.

00:16:22.000 I knew she was performing because an influencer that I follow on occasion was at this big private resort opening and she was performing for like some crazy amount of money. 0.95

00:16:32.000 What happened to music, John, in the last decade?

00:16:35.000 Well, that's a great question.

00:16:37.000 Just hearing in your right about what they're trying to do is to, you said, salvage what's left of their liberal base.

00:16:44.000 That's a good way to put it.

00:16:46.000 But then I have to think, well, what's wrong with that base that that would salvage them?

00:16:52.000 Well, I think... I mean, you understand that's how regular people look at it.

00:16:55.000 Like, I'm a dad, I got two sons, you know, they can't... I'm not gonna let them watch the Grammys.

00:17:01.000 I mean, one of my sons caught a little piece of it and said, Dad, it looks like they're all in hell.

00:17:06.000 And I said, no, we're in hell for having to watch it, you know, change the channel.

00:17:10.000 I mean, he was going, what am I looking at?

00:17:13.000 You know, a little kid who loves music, and he's seeing that go on, like Sam Smith is being devoured by demons on the stage when they push him down at the end, like they're eating him or whatever that was supposed to be.

00:17:24.000 And then brought to you by Pfizer, my son goes, The vaccine company's behind this?

00:17:29.000 I went, yeah, he's 11.

00:17:32.000 Well, so it used to be that there were very few channels.

00:17:35.000 Cable TV didn't get really that much ratings because it costs money.

00:17:38.000 And so the Grammys probably got 30 million viewers because people turned on the TV and that's what was on.

00:17:43.000 Everybody was talking about it.

00:17:45.000 Then the internet started becoming more and more prominent.

00:17:47.000 YouTube videos.

00:17:48.000 I remember back in the day, in the early days of YouTube, you could put out a video and these big channels would get like a million hits because there was very few There was very little content on it that was worth watching.

00:17:58.000 A bunch of weird stuff, like a person filming a birthday party, then all of a sudden, higher quality content.

00:18:03.000 But as more and more people started to use the internet, things started to decentralize and viewers started to flatten out.

00:18:07.000 So I remember talking to some big YouTubers who were like, you know, we used to get a million, million and a half, now we get 50 to 100k.

00:18:13.000 And I'm like, well yeah, now you're competing with 10, 100 times as many people.

00:18:18.000 So the ratings for everybody drops.

00:18:20.000 And what ends up happening is extremism and drama and hard, hard, like view politics are

00:18:27.000 your path to getting clicks.

00:18:29.000 So the thing about news is that everybody knows, everybody knows everything, right?

00:18:35.000 The balloon happens, someone posts on Twitter, there's a balloon over Montana, instantly

00:18:39.000 everybody knows.

00:18:40.000 So there's no news channel.

00:18:42.000 You can't make a news show and be like, ladies and gentlemen, there's a balloon over Montana.

00:18:45.000 They'd be like, dude, I heard that on Twitter.

00:18:46.000 Instantly, you're telling me nothing.

00:18:49.000 So what ends up happening is that news programs become people programs where they talk about their view of the news, like what we're doing, quite literally.

00:18:56.000 But more importantly, they realize there's more views in talking about personal issues.

00:19:01.000 So here's what ends up happening with something like this, in my view.

00:19:06.000 They know they're never getting back those 39 million viewers because that was a captive audience.

00:19:11.000 But if they're going to get back any amount of viewers, they need to create a tribe that will latch onto them.

00:19:18.000 Do this and you will get hardline, hard politic, woke, liberal people who will defend you and watch just because you're on their side.

00:19:28.000 That's how it works.

00:19:30.000 So, I think, if this is the path things are going, part of me wonders if these platforms will die off, because I'm hoping.

00:19:38.000 You know, here's my gamble.

00:19:39.000 Human nature is, some people may want the shot content, the tribalism and the drama, and some people might want the conversation.

00:19:47.000 And I'm hoping the conversation, the ideas, are actually what's going to win.

00:19:50.000 But I gotta be honest, I'm not the most confident considering that these companies keep doing stuff like this.

00:19:55.000 They're not backing down.

00:19:57.000 Maybe they'll fail and go out of business and we'll all be proven right.

00:19:59.000 Or maybe what's gonna happen is you're gonna find that humans really do just want to consume gutter trash coliseum content and watch the lions rip apart the gladiators.

00:20:08.000 Yeah.

00:20:08.000 You're talking about the Grammys?

00:20:09.000 The company that runs them might go bankrupt at some point?

00:20:12.000 Is that the company you're talking about?

00:20:14.000 Their views are down from two years ago by 60 some odd percent.

00:20:17.000 It's no longer that we have to wait a year to hear what like 30 people think is the best song on earth at some award ceremony.

00:20:23.000 It used to be.

00:20:24.000 Now the Grammys should have their own YouTube network or their own network where every week you go there and there's new videos and songs on grammy.com or whatever.

00:20:31.000 They should pivot.

00:20:33.000 Like, waiting for the Oscars to tell me what was good.

00:20:35.000 I already know, I saw it.

00:20:37.000 And award shows used to have this exclusivity to celebrities, right?

00:20:41.000 Like, they're coming down the red carpet, and what are you wearing, and who did they bring as their date?

00:20:44.000 But now you see all of that on social media.

00:20:46.000 Any celebrity who's appearing at these events has some sort of social media following.

00:20:50.000 So, some of the mystery of, you know, Being removed when we didn't have social media when you were waiting you had to watch the broadcast to get all of these details about these people that you look up to or you're interested in or you're following or whatever like you can get that at the drop of a hat now so you're right like the Grammys and all the other award shows need to adapt or die because

00:21:09.000 I don't think anyone looks, I mean very few people, I definitely don't look to these institutional award shows to say like, ah yes, you have recommended a good song to me, I will listen to it now, you know?

00:21:20.000 Like, it doesn't mean anything anymore, you're more likely to get a reference from someone you know personally, and then you don't have this elite space where you're saying, oh well I get to see the celebrities live, you see them all the time, they're overexposed on social media.

00:21:32.000 Let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.

00:21:34.000 I saw actually this tweet first from Jack Posobiec.

00:21:36.000 Woke Disney sparks outrage with new kids cartoon that claims America was built on slavery as it pushes reparations and says Lincoln had no desire to liberate the enslaved.

00:21:48.000 That last part's true.

00:21:49.000 Lincoln had no desire to liberate the enslaved.

00:21:51.000 That's a fact.

00:21:52.000 Anybody who reads about Civil War knows that even the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to states in rebellion from the United States, meaning there were several northern states that had slavery that were exempt from it.

00:22:04.000 However, I think this is...

00:22:08.000 What we were just talking about is the desperate attempt to generate tribalism for money, mission-driven storytelling, because an entertainment product won't cut it anymore.

00:22:18.000 And I think that's what this is more about.

00:22:21.000 But this also results – I mean, look at this.

00:22:23.000 This is what they're teaching your kids.

00:22:26.000 The U.S.

00:22:27.000 still has not atoned for slavery, and look how pissed off these characters are.

00:22:31.000 You're supposed to—your kids are going to watch this, and they're going to see a bunch of angry young people saying, United States has not atoned for this, and they demand reparations, when in reality, the United States has, in my opinion, more than atoned in a lot of ways, and in ways that it's not politically correct to talk about, and that No one, none of these people have an honest conversation with you about, and they will teach your kids because two things are happening.

00:22:54.000 One, the industries are dying.

00:22:55.000 They need to find a way to make money.

00:22:57.000 How are they going to do it?

00:22:58.000 Okay, let's, we're not going to get a general audience anymore.

00:23:01.000 General audience is no longer a thing.

00:23:03.000 With the decentralization of the internet and streaming platforms, you need directed audience.

00:23:08.000 You need a core audience.

00:23:09.000 Choose what your audience is.

00:23:11.000 When I worked for Fusion, they said, our target audience are young progressives, and that means we are going to side with them and tell the stories they want to hear.

00:23:20.000 Outright saying, as a media company, we are here to say what they want to hear.

00:23:25.000 Deliver them a product.

00:23:27.000 Not, we try and capture everybody and tell them the news.

00:23:30.000 That was their mission.

00:23:31.000 That's what this is.

00:23:32.000 And so what I see here is, the other thing is, It's the long game, man.

00:23:37.000 You're gonna sit here and be like, well, you know, it's one show, whatever.

00:23:40.000 Those kids are gonna grow up, it's the only thing they're gonna hear.

00:23:42.000 Because people are too scared to speak up, and then this is what they're getting from Disney.

00:23:47.000 And parents thinking, in their minds, Disney is like Bambi, are buying this for their kids, but instead their kids are being told that America sucks, has never atoned, and, you know, angry.

00:23:59.000 What you're gonna end up with is a group of young people who are extremely unhappy, Well, I think when you said long ball, another thing came to my mind, which is there's a lot of people, Americans, born and raised Americans in big, powerful positions all throughout our country that dream of the day where America is no longer a standalone independent entity.

00:24:24.000 They want to see one world money, one world military, one world medicine, one world everything.

00:24:29.000 And you can't have one world anything as long as the United States is still standing on both feet and able to hold its own.

00:24:35.000 So if you can disincentivize kids, brainwash them and grow them up into a young adult, of military age that is not willing to fight for their country, they don't think their country is worth fighting for, guess what?

00:24:49.000 They won't fight for their country and they won't be too upset if somebody wants to come in here and take the place over or take it down.

00:24:55.000 You know, if you think about the World War II generation had the great benefit of being around grandparents.

00:25:00.000 My granddaddy had multiple Purple Hearts in World War II.

00:25:03.000 You round those people, you know, my grandmother's dragging metal in from the ditches around Texas to the schoolyard where they would melt it down and turn it into tanks and airplanes and bullets.

00:25:13.000 That's what they had to do to save not only the United States, but the whole world.

00:25:17.000 You don't have that attitude with a lot of young people right now. 0.97

00:25:20.000 And stuff like this Disney crap, you say parents think that Disney's teaching their kids, showing their kids something good.

00:25:25.000 More and more parents, Tim, are waking up to the fact that Disney does not have the best interests of their kids at heart. 0.97

00:25:32.000 I can promise you.

00:25:34.000 You can look at the stats on how many people are visiting Disney right now.

00:25:37.000 It is plummeting because people realize, hang on, these people are trying to brainwash my kids.

00:25:41.000 These people are trying to teach my kids instead of me teaching my kids.

00:25:45.000 Now, I don't know who in here has kids, maybe I'm the only one, but nothing, we talked about this last time I was with you, nothing will bring out the vicious teeth of a mom or a dad more Whether they're a left-leaning parent, center, or right-leaning parent, nothing brings their teeth out faster than thinking some stranger is taking their autonomy and authority away from their own household.

00:26:09.000 That is when the fists come up.

00:26:11.000 And so, Disney's just doing it on a multi-billion dollar level.

00:26:14.000 But again, it's like the Grammys.

00:26:15.000 It's so blatant now.

00:26:17.000 We used to accuse them of, you know what they're really trying to do, right?

00:26:20.000 and they'd say, oh go put your tenfold hat back on, they're not doing that.

00:26:24.000 Well we don't have to accuse them of it anymore because it's right in front of

00:26:26.000 our faces and parents are waking up to it.

00:26:29.000 So good, I'm glad Disney is doing that. It's just another another strike against them as far as I'm concerned.

00:26:35.000 One of the most frustrating things about the whole woke ideology is one,

00:26:39.000 it's, I mean look, if you want to make an argument about slaves building the country

00:26:43.000 and reparations, we can have that conversation.

00:26:45.000 It doesn't necessarily have to be rooted in critical race theory and stuff, but the critical race theory stuff is resulting in segregation, racial animosity, and there's been numerous polls.

00:26:53.000 I think Gallup ran a poll that said people view racial tensions in this country worse now, you know, after the Obama presidency than before.

00:27:01.000 Like, following his presidency, all we got from the left was race, race, race, race, race.

00:27:08.000 And this is, you know, I'm growing up in a world where they're passing laws and there's court rulings to end discrimination based on race, and you end up now with this.

00:27:19.000 The US has still not atoned for slavery, which is just generating, in my opinion, more racial animosity.

00:27:25.000 I'll put it this way, when I said that I think this country more than atoned, how many people died in the Civil War?

00:27:33.000 Like 1.8 million or something like that?

00:27:35.000 Now granted, there's a lot of Confederates there, but let me just point out the Confederacy doesn't exist anymore.

00:27:39.000 It's gone.

00:27:40.000 And so after the states that wanted slavery were crushed in one of the most bloody military conflicts ever, I'd have

00:27:49.000 to argue that the North, militaristically crushing the South was, and then all of

00:27:54.000 the Northerners who opposed slavery, and it wasn't completely about slavery, mind you, I

00:27:59.000 understand that, but the end of slavery brought about through the Civil War, I think is, it counts as atonement

00:28:04.000 on the part of the North, at the very least, and the South no longer exists. After

00:28:08.000 the South was defeated, they were occupied by Northern forces in the Reconstruction era, which didn't

00:28:13.000 end until there was almost another Civil War. So when they come out and they're like, this

00:28:17.000 country still hasn't atoned, I'm like, I don't know, I kind of think like, hey,

00:28:20.000 Half a million to 800,000 dead soldiers fighting to end the expansion of slavery at the very least, which resulted in the end of slavery, sounds like atonement to me.

00:28:30.000 And then also keep in mind that much of the country's expansion and development happened after this.

00:28:36.000 In fact, one of the key components of the Civil War was that Abraham Lincoln was saying, I could be getting this wrong, it's been a while since I read about it, and there's people who know more than me, obviously.

00:28:45.000 Academics.

00:28:46.000 But what was really happening was the current state of politics was to stop the expansion of slavery into new territories as they became states.

00:28:54.000 So California, for instance, was never a slave state.

00:28:56.000 It entered as a free state.

00:28:57.000 It was always a free state.

00:28:59.000 And so it was ending the expansion.

00:29:01.000 Slavery was being suppressed, essentially.

00:29:06.000 So they want to argue it was never atoned for, but I'm like, man, not only was the political environment to shut it down slowly over time with massive resistance, those who tried to keep it were crushed with military force.

00:29:19.000 And you want to talk about atonement?

00:29:20.000 How about Sherman's march to the sea?

00:29:22.000 and the decimation of family homes and cities and villages, or the ransacking and burning of Richmond.

00:29:28.000 This kind of stuff pisses me off because it's a bunch of ideological blowhards, and they put out these videos, I watched one, where this woman's like, we should abolish private property. 1.00

00:29:37.000 Also, I'm moving into my own house.

00:29:39.000 It is psychotic lunacy that's going to result in, in my opinion, all of these good things that we've retained, while getting rid of the bad, will be destroyed, will be wiped out, and then we'll all be left holding empty bags in the middle of the woods, fending for ourselves.

00:29:52.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, this show, The Proud Family, aired in the early 2000s, so I remember watching it as a kid, and I'm kind of sad to see them injecting this very, obviously, pointed ideology into it, because it was one of the first TV shows I remember seeing.

00:30:07.000 I think it is the first time I remember seeing Muslim characters depicted on television.

00:30:12.000 There's like a whole episode where she, like the Penny, the main character, does kind of like an exchange, but it's within her own school district with a Muslim family, and she has to uh wear hijab and like talk about it and whatever else and like there are ways to talk about culture and ways to talk about the challenges different people face coming into america without it being like let's all blame one person and let's have it be about how this country is bad you know this show is actually interesting and this is the reboot

00:30:40.000 I wish they would have stuck with what they were trying to do in the early 2000s.

00:30:43.000 Like inclusion.

00:30:44.000 Diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:30:45.000 That's a big part of the critical race theory is the inclusion of it.

00:30:49.000 So why exclude?

00:30:50.000 Why talk about evil and them and those if you really want to include people in the process?

00:30:56.000 And I will also say this country was born on the backs of British subjects. 0.89

00:31:02.000 British subjects that had to fight a war to overthrow their slave master King George.

00:31:07.000 The whole thing.

00:31:08.000 All of us come from slaves.

00:31:10.000 Can you name another country that fought a civil war over slavery in large part?

00:31:15.000 Name any other nation in the history of the planet.

00:31:18.000 They've all had slaves.

00:31:19.000 Every empire had slaves.

00:31:21.000 Is there any other one that fought a civil war to end it?

00:31:25.000 I think it's just us.

00:31:27.000 I'm going to start looking, searching, because maybe there is.

00:31:29.000 I don't know one off the top of my head.

00:31:30.000 You know, they come after these kids young, the CRT stuff.

00:31:35.000 That even landed in a little too close to home a few years ago, and I read it, and I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking about, there's my son sitting next to his best friend who he plays baseball with, who's black, and my son's a white kid, and they're both reading the same thing, and it's saying, if you're this color, then this is what you're about, and if you're that color, you don't have a chance.

00:31:59.000 And both these kids are looking at each other going, My son felt like he needed to apologize.

00:32:03.000 He's like, man, I didn't know, you know, they're little kids.

00:32:07.000 And the other kid felt terrible because he's like, what do you mean I don't have a chance?

00:32:10.000 We both hit home runs last weekend.

00:32:12.000 It's all negativity.

00:32:13.000 Oh, it's terrible.

00:32:14.000 It is mind torture, right? 0.88

00:32:16.000 Yeah, it's it's it's disgusting.

00:32:18.000 And like, this is his best friend, right?

00:32:20.000 Are they going to spend the rest of the time to go to school?

00:32:22.000 They're being like, oh, wait, there's actually something terrible.

00:32:25.000 They would if they didn't have parents that told him, hey, that's nonsense.

00:32:29.000 And a lot of kids don't have parents like that.

00:32:30.000 And you're right, a lot of them don't.

00:32:34.000 I'm trying to follow up on this.

00:32:36.000 It looks like maybe Brazil fought a revolution to overthrow slavery.

00:32:40.000 Was this Pedro, Emperor Pedro?

00:32:41.000 I'm getting this all wrong.

00:32:42.000 It's like, sign up to look at Quora.

00:32:44.000 I don't want to sign up, guys.

00:32:46.000 Well, in the UK, they abolished slavery, I think, a couple decades before the United States did.

00:32:51.000 So the argument from a lot of these people is that if the US never had independence, and it was just a colony of the UK, slavery would have ended a lot sooner.

00:32:59.000 I kind of don't think so.

00:33:00.000 I think the Civil War would have just been the Southern Revolution.

00:33:04.000 I mean, that's basically what it was.

00:33:05.000 The Confederacy was trying to secede from the Union, make their own country.

00:33:08.000 And if the UK was doing the same thing, I'd imagine they would have done the exact same thing.

00:33:12.000 The only difference is they'd be fighting against the Crown.

00:33:16.000 I don't know what the strength of the crown is at that point.

00:33:18.000 It'd be a really interesting history to see, like, the War of 1812 actually ends up as some kind of conflict over slavery.

00:33:25.000 Or probably not, because I think it was like 1830 or whatever the UK finally abolished it or something like that.

00:33:30.000 But I don't know, man.

00:33:31.000 Long story short, I think the people who write this stuff, they just have no idea what they're talking about.

00:33:37.000 And that's a lot of what guides culture for humans.

00:33:42.000 And man, I don't know, it's kind of depressing, right?

00:33:45.000 Bill Maher did this really great segment I guess last week talking about how culture revolutionaries want to erase human nature and you can't.

00:33:52.000 Mao wanted to get rid of the four great olds or whatever, old culture and stuff like that, and you can't do it. 1.00

00:33:58.000 And then he says in the Soviet Union they had this idea of like the strong Soviet man who cared more about being part of a collective than of individualism and then Vilmar makes the joke that when in reality the Soviet man just wanted to wear a tracksuit, be on a yacht with a beautiful woman and then he shows a guy in a tracksuit or whatever.

00:34:14.000 But the thing about—the reason I bring up Bill Maher is that, you know, he's very much in line with a lot of this stuff, too.

00:34:19.000 Notably, his PragerU—I'm sorry, his Prager interview—not interview, but the conversation when he was on the panel, and Prager said they're putting tampons in the men's room, and Bill Maher laughed at him.

00:34:31.000 Like, Bill Maher may be doing better than a lot of these mainstream default liberal types when it comes to understanding some of the news and what's happening in our culture, but even he's behind.

00:34:44.000 And so you end up with Bill Maher, who's supposed to represent, like, a higher class of political commentary, you know, it's smarter than Jon Stewart but still funny, things like that.

00:34:55.000 And even they don't have any idea what they're talking about.

00:34:57.000 They're not reading current news.

00:34:58.000 They're not talking about current cultural issues.

00:35:00.000 They're behind the curve by a couple years.

00:35:02.000 So I don't know, man.

00:35:04.000 Part of me is not particularly hopeful, to be completely honest.

00:35:06.000 If everything is racist, then nothing is racist.

00:35:09.000 Yeah, true. 0.95

00:35:10.000 And so the best way to keep people fired up about racism, because I believe that people that push crap like this, they want to see racism. 0.97

00:35:18.000 They need to see racism. 0.96

00:35:20.000 They need that hatred to exist so they have a reason to go out and make the money that they make doing whatever it is, the angle that they're pushing.

00:35:28.000 And so, you know, the best way to do that is anybody that I disagree with, I'm going to call them a racist.

00:35:33.000 And then the other person goes, We weren't even talking about that.

00:35:36.000 What do you mean I'm a racist? 0.89

00:35:37.000 They go, no, you're a racist.

00:35:38.000 You just don't know it. 0.93

00:35:39.000 That's part of the CRT thing is you don't even know that you're a racist, but you are.

00:35:43.000 Trust me.

00:35:44.000 It's like vaccines and Pfizer, right?

00:35:46.000 Yeah.

00:35:47.000 You know, you need another one.

00:35:48.000 Now you need a booster.

00:35:49.000 Now you need other things.

00:35:49.000 Like if you solved racism, Who would fund all these non-profits, right?

00:35:53.000 Dude, it happened to me in 2016.

00:35:55.000 Best friend in L.A.

00:35:56.000 We were talking politics every day, pretty much.

00:35:58.000 We'd watch Rachel Maddow, and he'd have CNN on the background talking about Hillary Clinton's e-mails and servers, and like, oh my gosh, look at what she did with Sidney Blumenthal with Osprey Global Solutions in Libya, a gun run for, you know, it's basically privateering.

00:36:10.000 He's getting Sidney Blumenthal all this money, and he's like, white privilege, you've got white, like it just came down to you've got white privilege, and it was the first time I'd ever been told that in my life, and I was like, What the hell is going on?

00:36:20.000 I'm talking about Hillary's emails, dude.

00:36:22.000 Look.

00:36:22.000 Look at the data.

00:36:23.000 And he's like, you're just racist. 1.00

00:36:25.000 Your white privilege is coming out. 1.00

00:36:27.000 And it was shocking. 0.99

00:36:29.000 Blown powerless.

00:36:31.000 I didn't know how to respond.

00:36:32.000 No wasn't enough.

00:36:33.000 No, I'm not isn't enough.

00:36:35.000 If they keep saying it over and over.

00:36:36.000 And I just had to disengage.

00:36:37.000 I left.

00:36:38.000 I didn't talk to the guy hardly at all.

00:36:39.000 It's really one of the worst things you can call somebody.

00:36:42.000 What's worse than being called a racist?

00:36:46.000 Well, there's a lot of worse things. 0.99

00:36:47.000 I don't know, I mean, that's like, if you were actually a racist, like a real racist, that's one of the nastiest humans around. 0.94

00:36:53.000 If you're an actual racist, I mean, I've run into a couple of them, and you're like, wow, I don't want, mm-mm. 0.84

00:37:00.000 You know, I mean, they're really nasty people from all sectors of the world that are true 0.93

00:37:06.000 racist.

00:37:07.000 So, when you're called one and you're not one and that word gets thrown around so flippantly,

00:37:12.000 at this point it almost has lost its sting because everything, like I said, if everything's

00:37:17.000 racist then nothing is racist.

00:37:19.000 Most countries in the world are extremely racist.

00:37:21.000 The United States, in my opinion, is the least racist place I've ever been.

00:37:24.000 Totally.

00:37:24.000 I think Sweden may have been one of the most racist places I've ever been, you know?

00:37:29.000 And they masquerade as opposing racism, but then they're like super racist, you know?

00:37:38.000 I mean, they can think that they're not racist because they have homogenous society, right?

00:37:41.000 Like, this argument gets made about Japan all the time.

00:37:43.000 They're very strict on immigration.

00:37:44.000 You cannot live in Japan. 1.00

00:37:45.000 But Sweden's issue is that they kind of don't.

00:37:49.000 They have pockets of racial minorities from other parts of the world that they've boxed in, claim they're not racist, and then segregate these people from their own society and refuse to hire them while acting like they're all progressive. 0.78

00:38:02.000 That's what I mean.

00:38:03.000 At least in Japan, they're honest about them being like, our country is Japan for the Japanese, so you can't come here. 1.00

00:38:08.000 Sweden's like, oh, we love and care about everybody, you know, they're allowed to come here.

00:38:11.000 Everybody in the box.

00:38:13.000 And then I heard this from a lot of people, even Americans.

00:38:16.000 I heard an American woman who moved to Sweden saying that they wouldn't hire her because she had an accent.

00:38:20.000 She spoke Swedish but had an accent, and they were like, nope. 1.00

00:38:23.000 There's like no integration.

00:38:24.000 Did you get that too, traveling around?

00:38:26.000 You've been around, how many countries have you lived in, Serge?

00:38:28.000 I have no idea, probably like 10 or so.

00:38:31.000 You were nodding when Tim was saying America's, United States is the least racist?

00:38:33.000 Yeah, by far.

00:38:34.000 And people just don't realize that because they've rarely been other places.

00:38:37.000 So they often talk from an American perspective about these things and think that, you know, people in, for instance, China, oh, they're not, you know, they're like not, they're extremely racist if they're Han Chinese against even other Chinese, like people within China.

00:38:48.000 So.

00:38:49.000 China, you say?

00:38:50.000 Should we talk about China?

00:38:52.000 What a perfect opportunity for a segue!

00:38:55.000 Alright, let's jump to the story.

00:38:56.000 We got this from TimCast.com.

00:38:58.000 Chinese surveillance balloon may have contained explosives designed to self-destruct.

00:39:05.000 Anytime you down something like this, we have to make assumptions such as that said Air Force General Glenn D. Van Hurk.

00:39:13.000 I wonder if that's the real reason they did not want to shoot it down.

00:39:17.000 Because the debris is one thing, but if it had something in it really bad, I guess the concern is what if it had a bomb?

00:39:25.000 What if it had some kind of device and shooting it down would You know, poison or a biological weapon?

00:39:30.000 You said it before the show, I think, John, the EMP, the best way to deliver it would be, or one of the best ways would be via balloon, because it's so high up and then it's got just a wide berth of explosive fallout.

00:39:39.000 It goes higher than an airplane can go to shoot it down.

00:39:42.000 Like, if it's at 150,000 feet, you know, you can't get a plane up that high, really.

00:39:47.000 There was a whole, listen, you guys can go look it up, but there's an operation called Operation Hard Tack.

00:39:53.000 In the 50s.

00:39:54.000 And it was nuclear tests, and it was also EMP tests.

00:39:58.000 And the EMP tests they were running, they were detonating the EMPs from balloons at about 150,000 feet up.

00:40:06.000 And the reason, because that is the most, that's the most effective range for an EMP to really do its damage down on the ground.

00:40:14.000 And you can go read the report, it's a few pages long, but it's very interesting.

00:40:18.000 So when I saw that balloon floating across, I thought, Is there, I wonder if there's an EMP in that thing?

00:40:25.000 How many more balloons are there floating around? 0.91

00:40:26.000 You know, we've always talked about, what if the grid went down?

00:40:29.000 You know, we all know you guys talk about that a lot, but you know, if you had no electricity in America for a year, you'd have 10% of the people left.

00:40:37.000 That's not me saying it.

00:40:38.000 That's all the military strategists that have ever looked at it.

00:40:40.000 You'd have about one out of 10 Americans would survive something like that for a year.

00:40:45.000 It's almost unsurvivable.

00:40:47.000 So an EMP, An EMP also – this is an interesting thing – that in Iran, in their war manifesto, like how they would carry out a war, they find an EMP to be Sharia-compliant, because the EMP itself does not mass-kill anybody. 0.59

00:41:06.000 It's what the EMP causes that mass kills everybody.

00:41:09.000 But the EMP itself does not cause a mass death.

00:41:12.000 As a matter of fact, it causes no death because it's way up there.

00:41:15.000 It's Sharia-compliant. 1.00

00:41:16.000 So people don't realize that EMPs are the go-to, they're the go-to first-strike weapon.

00:41:22.000 Put everybody in the dark.

00:41:23.000 So when I saw that balloon, I went, I wonder if there's an EMP in that thing.

00:41:27.000 And maybe that's why they didn't shoot it down.

00:41:29.000 I don't know.

00:41:29.000 They knew it was coming for, I think, a week or five days.

00:41:31.000 But that's legit. 0.98

00:41:32.000 It sounds dumb to people. 1.00

00:41:33.000 Oh, that's so stupid. 1.00

00:41:34.000 They're going to send a balloon up Well, you were saying it's because they don't have heat signatures, or they have very low heat signatures? 1.00

00:41:38.000 Yeah, they're analog, basically.

00:41:40.000 I mean, you know, there's not a lot to them, and they move so slow and so high, you know, they're in between the satellites and airspace, and where the airplanes fly.

00:41:48.000 So they're kind of in this zone where they're hard to get to them.

00:41:52.000 And, you know, if you send a missile in with an EMP, you could see that coming.

00:41:56.000 You would see it take off, and you'd go, oh, there's a missile, try to knock it down.

00:41:59.000 This balloon just kind of floats in, and here's a balloon floating from Alaska to South Carolina.

00:42:04.000 Did it actually have self-destruct instructions aboard, like it was supposed to destroy itself afterwards?

00:42:09.000 I have no idea.

00:42:10.000 I don't think anybody knows anything about Any of it.

00:42:13.000 My first guess is that it was their version of Google Maps.

00:42:17.000 They were tracking, they're trying to map North America, but they're just so poor at communication with the United States, no one knew ahead of time.

00:42:24.000 But then they blew it up, so either they're mapping Google Maps and they didn't want to tell anyone because they're so secretive, or they were actually tracking and mapping all of our sensitive data in purpose, and they came down on purpose.

00:42:36.000 They said it was blown off course.

00:42:38.000 Um, I thought it was blown off course.

00:42:40.000 That's the first thing I thought.

00:42:41.000 Wouldn't they have notified someone if it got blown off course?

00:42:43.000 I mean, Blinken was supposed to go meet with the Chinese government and now he's not going to because... Oh, he's not?

00:42:48.000 Yeah, because they couldn't, like, the balloon being blown off course, especially if they were like, oh, it's just studying the weather.

00:42:54.000 Like, why didn't you just say, hey, we lost our large analog balloon.

00:42:58.000 Could you please let us know if you see it?

00:43:00.000 But it wasn't blown off course because it was stopping.

00:43:02.000 Yeah.

00:43:03.000 and hovering over nuclear silo installations and would sit there and then it would start

00:43:09.000 moving again.

00:43:10.000 And it was sending data, let's be realistic, in real time.

00:43:13.000 Without a doubt, I'd be shocked if it was not just transmitting data and the whole time

00:43:16.000 they let it fly slowly across the United States and track that.

00:43:19.000 What if there was a biological weapon placed in the balloon?

00:43:24.000 So we want the balloon shot down immediately.

00:43:26.000 Why was it allowed blah blah blah?

00:43:28.000 If they were... I think Montana would have been a great place to shoot it down.

00:43:32.000 No offense to Montana, but a lot of big open space.

00:43:35.000 And so they could quickly come in quarantine and isolate.

00:43:38.000 Maybe their concern was then you're going to get into the press is going to be there.

00:43:42.000 You shoot it down.

00:43:43.000 Are you going to be able to contain the area in time when the debris comes down?

00:43:46.000 They're already searching for explosives.

00:43:49.000 And they waited until it was over water to take it out.

00:43:52.000 Maybe that was their concern.

00:43:53.000 They didn't know what had happened.

00:43:54.000 It was over water in Alaska.

00:43:55.000 Well, right.

00:43:57.000 It was over water in Alaska.

00:43:58.000 There's nobody up there.

00:43:59.000 It went over all of Alaska and they just had nothing.

00:44:01.000 And it wasn't until someone saw it.

00:44:03.000 Right.

00:44:04.000 If you were worried there was a biological weapon on it, I mean, the least populated areas over the water outside of Alaska.

00:44:12.000 And then through Canada?

00:44:13.000 Came down through Canada?

00:44:14.000 And then it came down through British Columbia and, you know, Alberta.

00:44:17.000 If it did have something on it that was extremely dangerous and would, you know, taking it out in Canada would be the best option because then no Americans get hurt.

00:44:23.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

00:44:24.000 Well, why didn't Canada take it out?

00:44:25.000 That's the real question.

00:44:26.000 Tom McDonald would not appreciate that comment.

00:44:28.000 Canada doesn't have the capabilities.

00:44:29.000 Shout out to Canada.

00:44:32.000 I love Canada, man.

00:44:33.000 It's so sad to see them getting railroaded by the government with like the trucker convoys and stuff because they're the most cool people.

00:44:38.000 They're like the most, like, Oh, I'll help you then, yeah?

00:44:42.000 Anything, like, my hair's on fire!

00:44:44.000 Oh, get in the back of the car, man, I'll take you for a ride then!

00:44:47.000 I've played every hockey rink in the whole nation of Canada.

00:44:50.000 I've toured that country, I bet I've played 200, 300 shows in Canada.

00:44:54.000 And you're right, the people, you've got little bitty towns like Lethbridge, Alberta, and little, you know, Kamloops, and those kind of places.

00:45:01.000 Yeah, they're some of the greatest people in the world.

00:45:03.000 In America, we talk about how these big cities are very different from flyover states and everything like that.

00:45:08.000 Like, it's even more so in Canada because the population is even smaller.

00:45:13.000 I mean, my experience, because my family's Canadian, has always been, you know, going there to spend time with them.

00:45:19.000 And they just make fun of America.

00:45:21.000 Everyone makes fun of Americans.

00:45:22.000 But you want to be like, you guys are not unified at all.

00:45:26.000 Somebody's mentioning that Alex Jones pointed out, or Alex Jones is saying it's a test balloon and the next one will have an EMP.

00:45:31.000 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

00:45:32.000 Or the next 60.

00:45:33.000 What'll happen next time is you'll see 60 coming from different directions. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Well, this is the worst case scenario.

00:45:37.000 You see them all coming at once.

00:45:38.000 It's like you ever see that Fire in the Sky movie where they sent one, the aliens sent like one thing and it was all this, oh no, what are we going to do?

00:45:45.000 What are we going to do?

00:45:45.000 They spent the whole movie trying to figure out how to stop it.

00:45:47.000 They finally figured it out.

00:45:48.000 I think it's called Fire in the Sky.

00:45:49.000 They finally get rid of it.

00:45:50.000 And then like the next day you just see thousands of them coming and it's like, oh, oh.

00:45:55.000 Dude, we couldn't even handle one freaking balloon.

00:45:57.000 One.

00:45:58.000 What do you think Douglas MacArthur or General Patton would have done if an Italian or Nazi or Japanese balloon had floated across mainland U.S.? ?

00:46:09.000 You blow it up, you immediately get that guy on the phone, the head, and then you harangue them publicly.

00:46:14.000 Bad things would happen.

00:46:15.000 Yeah.

00:46:15.000 Dude, what if, I was thinking last night or this morning, what if the government was taken over by a foreign entity, all of a sudden the airwaves come up and it's like, we are in control, everything's okay, it's the Chinese government's in control.

00:46:26.000 Who would even do anything about it now?

00:46:28.000 Like it's so, we're so, I feel so fractured, society is so fractured.

00:46:31.000 Wait, wait.

00:46:32.000 If there was a government, if the American government was taken over by a foreign government, the people would just sit there.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, like he said, all of a sudden, Joe Biden's not the president, it's Xi Jinping, and he's like, we've got it under control.

00:46:42.000 Wow.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, what if that happened?

00:46:43.000 That would be crazy.

00:46:45.000 I've got a feeling there are secrets.

00:46:46.000 I can't even fathom it.

00:46:47.000 I cannot imagine.

00:46:48.000 That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

00:46:50.000 I have faith, I hope.

00:46:51.000 Fortunately, that will never happen.

00:46:53.000 It's impossible.

00:46:54.000 I mean, this is like, I'd hope we'd have really strong state governors, right?

00:46:58.000 Hunter Biden flew on Air Force Two to China, not to negotiate any kind of subservience, but to tell them off and say, no.

00:47:07.000 And that $5 million loan, loan, forgivable loan was was them saying, please, please take this money and leave.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, forgive us.

00:47:14.000 It freaks me out that Alex said that's a test balloon because I am not.

00:47:17.000 That's what, isn't that what Jack said?

00:47:19.000 That's literally what I said.

00:47:20.000 Yeah, that's what you guys all said.

00:47:21.000 I said it's a literal trial balloon.

00:47:24.000 They're sending it through to see our response, and our response was an inability to handle it.

00:47:30.000 I think the real fear was if it had explosives on it or something and they shot out of the sky, what if there was a gravity bomb on it?

00:47:37.000 Like a one megaton bomb.

00:47:39.000 And the trick was, if we shot it down, we'd nuke ourselves.

00:47:43.000 So everyone's sitting here being like, but he should have shut it down.

00:47:46.000 Well, there's probably some things he could have done for sure instead of just being like, we're going to let it fly over the whole country.

00:47:51.000 Because assuming it had a bomb, it could have been waiting over its target.

00:47:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:57.000 So if you think there's a problem, your best bet, Montana.

00:48:00.000 Sorry, Montana. 0.98

00:48:01.000 I'm not trying to be a dick. 0.96

00:48:01.000 I think you're an awesome state. 0.96

00:48:03.000 Or like Gus said, Alaska!

00:48:05.000 Or, yeah, off the Aleutian Islands.

00:48:06.000 I mean, out in the middle of the freezing water.

00:48:08.000 Did they detect it when it was in Alaska?

00:48:09.000 Yeah, they did.

00:48:10.000 Oh yeah, they saw it when it, they saw it cross, they've now confirmed they saw it coming across the Pacific.

00:48:16.000 They just didn't say anything.

00:48:17.000 They just didn't say anything.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, so, so what if?

00:48:20.000 They were letting stuff like this happen, you know?

00:48:22.000 What if Joe Biden was working at the behest of the Chinese Communist Party?

00:48:25.000 What if, huh?

00:48:26.000 No one said anything about it until civilians caught it.

00:48:29.000 That's right.

00:48:29.000 And they had to admit that, yeah, it is.

00:48:31.000 And then they did nothing.

00:48:32.000 Nothing.

00:48:32.000 Maybe they were on standby.

00:48:33.000 And they're like, if it veers off course towards a major city, we'll take it out.

00:48:38.000 Maybe they've waited until they knew the whole world was looking like this all day long, just like that, to start sending in the balloons.

00:48:44.000 Because we never look up.

00:48:45.000 We're always looking down.

00:48:46.000 Dude, and now they know that if they do send something, the Americans are afraid of it.

00:48:52.000 They got that in the bag.

00:48:52.000 This is all art of war stuff.

00:48:54.000 They're just gauging what we did.

00:48:56.000 And now next time, we'll have to be a little harder if we see another balloon.

00:48:59.000 They know that ahead of time.

00:49:02.000 I think you're right.

00:49:03.000 We're going to see multiple balloons.

00:49:04.000 If they see another balloon, dude, that's an act of war in my opinion.

00:49:07.000 I agree.

00:49:08.000 That's not an accident.

00:49:09.000 I agree.

00:49:09.000 I think this wasn't an accident.

00:49:11.000 And there were two.

00:49:11.000 One went over Latin America.

00:49:12.000 But I think right before they go for Taiwan, that's why they did this.

00:49:16.000 How will we respond?

00:49:18.000 And so this is the analogy I said last week.

00:49:21.000 Guy who's planning on robbing a liquor store knows having the gun in New York is illegal, but he doesn't care because he's already intending to do something substantially worse, which is use a gun to rob someone.

00:49:32.000 China, when they're about to invade Taiwan, they know our reaction is going to be some kind of war response.

00:49:38.000 So they don't care if we're mad about a balloon.

00:49:42.000 Like, the balloon is inconsequential compared to how pissed off we're going to be when they move on Taiwan.

00:49:46.000 They know.

00:49:47.000 So I'm willing to bet we will see some kind of sign like this right before Taiwan gets hit. 0.99

00:49:53.000 And China's already been mobilizing warships and fighters, and Taiwan is on a high alert, mobilizing their navy, their air force, their fighters, whatever they have.

00:50:02.000 And then this happens, I'm like, oh boy, it's coming.

00:50:06.000 Well and I think they, sorry I'm just gonna say, I think China also wins by showing the American people that we don't, it confirms for a lot of people why you shouldn't have confidence in the government, right?

00:50:18.000 If you're someone who's already skeptical of the Biden administration or our military strength and we just let a balloon float across the country for days, China wins because it now knows the American people are at war with its own government. 0.58

00:50:30.000 Let's jump to this next story from TMZ.

00:50:33.000 I love this.

00:50:33.000 TMZ, great reporting here.

00:50:35.000 Ex-Trump officials refute DoD claim.

00:50:38.000 Three had flown here before?

00:50:40.000 Yo, TMZ hits the nail on the head. 0.84

00:50:42.000 They're like, look, we have several guys who would know.

00:50:46.000 Former Director of National Intelligence, former Secretary of Defense, and former Secretary of State all saying, no balloons flew over the U.S.

00:50:53.000 during the Trump administration.

00:50:55.000 When this, when this, okay, so this weekend, I'm looking at my phone and I see a story breaking, three balloons fly over the U.S.

00:51:02.000 during Trump administration.

00:51:03.000 I thought to myself, well, you know, if we're wrong, we'll own up to it.

00:51:06.000 We'll go on the show and say, we stand corrected, because we said, under Trump, this never would have happened, and if it did, he'd have shot them down, and now here it is.

00:51:14.000 Wait a minute, what's this?

00:51:16.000 An anonymous official said in some report, so we have no evidence, nobody saw it happen, nobody reported it, no pilots, no aviation experts, no aviation industry individuals, like not a single photographer, no one ever saw anything like this happen, no one's reported, and three officials have refuted it, huh.

00:51:35.000 I knew if I waited 10 minutes the story would be debunked, and now here we are, Fake news.

00:51:40.000 So they double-speak in the statement.

00:51:42.000 They say three undetected balloons went across the United States. 0.98

00:51:46.000 Well, if they're undetected, dumbass, how do you know they came across the United States? 0.95

00:51:50.000 Meaning, if this is true, you did detect them, but you didn't tell the Commander-in-Chief about it? 0.99

00:51:56.000 Well, what's that called?

00:51:58.000 Treason!

00:51:59.000 Well, the official anonymous quote is, Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration.

00:52:08.000 You know what they're doing?

00:52:08.000 Undetected.

00:52:09.000 Somebody detected them.

00:52:11.000 It doesn't say undetected.

00:52:12.000 I'm joking.

00:52:13.000 But we didn't say anything.

00:52:15.000 But here's my favorite part.

00:52:16.000 So these three officials come out and they say it's not true.

00:52:19.000 So you know what the Biden administration just came out and said this morning?

00:52:22.000 They said, we only just discovered it happened now and we will brief former Trump officials on this. 0.98

00:52:29.000 Get the f*** out of here. 0.87

00:52:30.000 It's so obvious. 0.99

00:52:31.000 You guys didn't detect them, but we have detected them.

00:52:33.000 That's right.

00:52:33.000 And now we'll let you know.

00:52:34.000 Right.

00:52:34.000 Because they have the OSIRIS device, which allows them to look at this giant crystal

00:52:40.000 and rewind time and look at the skies previously, so they can look in the past and the future.

00:52:47.000 I'm having these visions of being in the Oval Office running this because this is so...

00:52:51.000 Like more and more, it's actually really happening to me.

00:52:55.000 I'm like, okay, this is what it looks like.

00:52:56.000 These are the documents that you get in the morning.

00:52:58.000 I could have some... I'm ready.

00:53:00.000 I cannot sit by as old man 85 gets elected another... John, do you think your kids are better liars than this?

00:53:08.000 My kids are better, yeah.

00:53:09.000 Should we take over?

00:53:10.000 My kids' lives would stick up longer than that, yes.

00:53:13.000 But look, we might get it, but how many people, like the Krasensteins for instance, are ignoring the fact that three former officials said, no, it didn't happen, they don't care.

00:53:22.000 They are satisfied with one anonymous official saying, it happened, boom, there it is, it happened!

00:53:28.000 And I'm like, okay, well I have three named officials, and the simple fact that there's no evidence to suggest this didn't happen.

00:53:35.000 But, I gotta tell you, Ian, I think they're in the Oval Office, and Biden's there, and he's like, hey, just say it happened under Trump.

00:53:43.000 And they were like, ooh, that's a good one, okay.

00:53:45.000 And then they call up their favorite journalists and say, hey, here's the story, and they go, you got it, and they run it.

00:53:52.000 I wonder if the journalists call them.

00:53:54.000 They're like, we'll just say it happened under Trump.

00:53:55.000 And they're like, thanks.

00:53:56.000 They call the journalists and say, I got a tip for you.

00:53:58.000 I mean, so their anonymous official says this, but we know not long ago, 51 actual officials said that the Russia thing was true.

00:54:06.000 51 of them.

00:54:08.000 Remember that?

00:54:09.000 All 51 of these big dogs saying, oh, no, no, this whole Russia, it's not a hoax.

00:54:13.000 It's not a hoax.

00:54:14.000 Of course, we found out it absolutely was a hoax.

00:54:16.000 But now it's an anonymous official.

00:54:18.000 Nobody wants to put their name on it.

00:54:20.000 So, I mean, what does that even mean? 0.96

00:54:21.000 They think we're stupid and unfortunately, well fortunately for us, we're not. 0.98

00:54:25.000 I think there's a lot of Americans that want to go, what's the big deal? 1.00

00:54:28.000 It's a stupid balloon. 1.00

00:54:30.000 Well, those are the people you really can't help at this point. 1.00

00:54:32.000 But for the rest of us who are thinking people and know what's really going on in the world and we know what the dangers are, That's a big, big deal to see something like that.

00:54:42.000 You know, you're talking about a communist Chinese enemy of the United States floating a militarized vehicle all the way across the mainland.

00:54:51.000 It came 50 miles north of Nashville.

00:54:53.000 Wow.

00:54:54.000 Did you see it?

00:54:55.000 No, it was too far out.

00:54:56.000 It was just 50 miles out of Nashville.

00:54:59.000 But I mean, for that to be going on in 2023, It almost seems like, like I said earlier, there are people in this country that want to see America go down.

00:55:09.000 They want to see it happen. 1.00

00:55:13.000 Anybody listening to this, you're looking at the situation going, I can't believe people are that stupid. 1.00

00:55:18.000 I can't believe these people are that inept. 1.00

00:55:20.000 They're not stupid and they're not inept. 1.00

00:55:22.000 At all. 0.99

00:55:23.000 It's all calculated.

00:55:24.000 It's all part of it.

00:55:25.000 Again, you can't have one world money, one world medicine, one world militaries, as long as America is standing up on both feet.

00:55:33.000 America has to be reaching up for a hand. 0.97

00:55:35.000 What's the only way any person can reach up to something?

00:55:38.000 They have to be lower than whatever it is they're reaching up to.

00:55:41.000 Well, America's not lower than anybody right now.

00:55:43.000 You've got to put America down on a knee. 0.85

00:55:45.000 What's a good way to do that?

00:55:47.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:55:48.000 Let some balloons float across the country and turn the lights out one time.

00:55:52.000 Just an idea.

00:55:54.000 In 2012, I went to the largest hacker convention, DEF CON and Black Hat.

00:55:59.000 It happened about the same time, August, in Las Vegas.

00:56:05.000 Well, I got some choice words for the people at DEF CON these days.

00:56:08.000 I won't go there ever again.

00:56:10.000 But it used to be legit hacker community stuff.

00:56:12.000 Now it's just overrun with woke fear.

00:56:15.000 There's also another conference called Hackers on Planet Earth.

00:56:18.000 They did somewhat of a better job, but the woke people have really overrun the hacker community, and they're not even really hackers.

00:56:23.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:56:25.000 I was there in 2012, and Black Hat is more corporate.

00:56:29.000 Cyber security and things like that.

00:56:30.000 And a couple of guys were doing a demonstration on how a single, this is 2012 mind you, a single commercial drone that costs 200 bucks could have a transmitter placed on it that if flown within 40 miles of any kind of plant with some kind of receiver on it, it could send a signal and destroy it.

00:56:53.000 Just that.

00:56:54.000 These other guys did a demo of how to blow up a fluid processing plant.

00:56:59.000 This could be crude, it could be petrochemical, it could be water.

00:57:03.000 And basically what they said was, with a few lines of code injected into their systems, because they're like insecure systems from the 70s, you could make the machine direct the fluid in the same direction, causing a massive pressure buildup and then a pipe burst.

00:57:18.000 Which would disable a water plant or blow up a petrochemical plant.

00:57:22.000 And they did a demonstration where they were like, here's how, they're called industrial control systems.

00:57:27.000 They're like, here's how it works.

00:57:28.000 The machine says the fluid shall go in this direction.

00:57:31.000 When one tank needs to be changed or whatever, the fluid might go in the other direction.

00:57:34.000 This is a common mechanism in a lot of these plants.

00:57:38.000 If both are turned on at the same time via a hack, The pressure in the center will build up and the pipe will burst and then what they did was they had a pressure release valve so when they show the flow of fluid going back and forth they then press the button which hacks it and then they hold out a mug and the water sprays out and they catch it saying that would have been an exploded pipe but we had a pressure release valve so it just sprays water on us.

00:58:00.000 So you got to think about What a balloon could really do, and what our understanding of it is, we don't even know the capabilities of the military.

00:58:08.000 They're not going to tell us.

00:58:08.000 They're going to keep it a secret.

00:58:10.000 So there could be good reason why they didn't shoot this thing down.

00:58:13.000 And fair point.

00:58:14.000 It may have been knee-jerky of us to be like, it should be shot down immediately.

00:58:18.000 I mean, Jack Posobiec said so.

00:58:19.000 Fair point, though, maybe he's also right in that whatever they may have on it, it may be better off dropping in Montana or Alaska, like you mentioned, than flying outside of Nashville.

00:58:30.000 But I wonder if that's based on our surface-level knowledge and understanding of what could be on the balloon.

00:58:36.000 For all we know, there was an explosive on it.

00:58:39.000 When they say explosive, what if it was... Okay, let's go a little bit far-fetched.

00:58:44.000 Do you guys know about the concept of antimatter bombs?

00:58:47.000 You probably do, right?

00:58:47.000 When you take a particle and an antiparticle and you put them together, it creates intense explosive heat.

00:58:53.000 I think it's explosive.

00:58:54.000 If they were able to contain small quantities of matter and antimatter, you could make a very, very small bomb with the force of, like, megatons.

00:59:03.000 Relatively small.

00:59:03.000 I don't know the actual size, I'm not a physicist.

00:59:05.000 So, theoretically, if you could contain it properly, this is next-level technology, weapons technology, they could have been thinking, it's not an explosive like TNT, it's an explosive like a megaton radioactive bomb.

00:59:16.000 It says that one half gram of antimatter reacting with one half gram of ordinary matter would result in 21.5 kilotons, equivalent of the atomic bomb over Nagasaki.

00:59:27.000 And that's a gram?

00:59:28.000 Yeah, half a gram of each.

00:59:29.000 So one gram of material.

00:59:32.000 One gram!

00:59:33.000 Think about, think about, so 1 1,000th of a kilogram.

00:59:39.000 So we're talking about, I mean, ridiculously, a gram, people know what a gram is.

00:59:47.000 140, 140 50th of a pound.

00:59:49.000 Microscopic, now imagine if they had an actual pound of this stuff.

00:59:53.000 I don't know if they do.

00:59:54.000 Producing antimatter is extremely difficult to do.

00:59:58.000 And that's to be contained, I think, in a magnetic ring.

01:00:00.000 But, hey, look.

01:00:02.000 Do we think that technology from the 70s is the epitome of weapons tech these days?

01:00:07.000 Like, they built ICBMs and were like, all right, we got these nukes, that's it, we're done.

01:00:12.000 You know, that Russia's rolling out the Satan 2 missile, the tsunami bomb or whatever as well.

01:00:17.000 Is that it?

01:00:18.000 Or do they actually, like, are they gonna publicly announce Russia's like, here's our doomsday weapon, here's how it works, here's what it does.

01:00:24.000 I was just listening to someone quoting Yuri Besmanov, the Russian, I don't know if he's a philosopher or military strategist exactly, but he's noted as like turning away from the Communist Party and I think kind of revealing their plans to the Americans, to the world.

01:00:37.000 Yeah, he's XKGB.

01:00:38.000 XKGB. 0.94

01:00:38.000 He said that it used to be that it was easier to control a million people than kill them, but today it's easier to kill a million people than control them. 0.94

01:00:47.000 Very I bet that rings in my head that that thought that it's you know, it's hard to know darkest among us would have that in mind You know part of what I think about all this stuff is maybe maybe nuclear technology really was the the pinnacle the epitome, you know There there are long periods of human history where technological development stagnates stagnates I look at the culture of America and how it's kind of been stagnant.

01:01:08.000 I'm like well Well, you know, maybe we had this big boom with the discovery of petroleum and this massive energy output, and now we're easing back into the stagnation where for hundreds of years culture remained relatively the same.

01:01:21.000 You lived the same life your grandparents did.

01:01:24.000 And that changed in the early 1900s with the Industrial Revolution, but maybe we're going back to that.

01:01:28.000 And there's going to be a long period of stagnation where, I mean, you look at warfare.

01:01:32.000 They used muskets for hundreds of years!

01:01:36.000 Hundreds.

01:01:37.000 And for us, in like the span of a hundred years, we've made some crazy weapons.

01:01:41.000 We got lasers, we got rail guns, we got active denial systems.

01:01:45.000 We kind of went nuts.

01:01:46.000 Maybe we now level out and everything kind of plateaus and maybe, maybe nukes are it.

01:01:52.000 You know, and there's not a great technology to fear.

01:01:54.000 Explosions don't really scale up.

01:01:56.000 Like, if you want to hit a target, if the explosion is so big, it's going to go beyond the target, scale the target.

01:02:02.000 So more explosion isn't necessarily better explosion.

01:02:05.000 So I think that nuclear has not really capped out.

01:02:08.000 Like you're saying a gram of energy could do nuclear bomb.

01:02:13.000 I'm concerned about, like, vibration weapons and things that can, like, make things fall apart at the atomic scale and stuff that we've never heard of or conceived of.

01:02:20.000 Well, I think that would require breaking apart, like, fundamental forces, right?

01:02:24.000 If you're going to break something apart at the atomic scale, you're talking about breaking apart... Or the molecular scale is a little bit better, a little easier, I think.

01:02:30.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:02:31.000 Ripping atoms apart, like ionization and stuff like that.

01:02:34.000 Oxidization.

01:02:34.000 Yeah.

01:02:35.000 Rapid oxidization.

01:02:36.000 Fire is a simple example.

01:02:37.000 You know, an EMP kills more people, ultimately, than any nuke.

01:02:42.000 You were saying if it was an EMP, we'd lose instantly.

01:02:45.000 They hit the right place.

01:02:47.000 Every single military look at that situation has said, if it was nationwide or close nationwide, they estimate after a year, 10% are still alive.

01:03:00.000 And the problem with with all of our big electrical substations that are around the U.S., they're all totally different because they're built to handle that that amount of power, that kind of distribution.

01:03:12.000 They're all very specific and unique the way they're built.

01:03:16.000 And most of them are built overseas, of course.

01:03:18.000 And it's a 12 to 18 month wait to get one built and sent over here.

01:03:25.000 You know where they're built?

01:03:26.000 Germany.

01:03:27.000 China is now building them.

01:03:29.000 Of course, China's building our electrical substations.

01:03:34.000 It was Germany, China. 0.95

01:03:36.000 It was another country, but it's not here.

01:03:38.000 We're not building them here.

01:03:39.000 I don't know.

01:03:40.000 It's just like we don't make antibiotics here.

01:03:42.000 You said that China, the Chinese government's been building American electrical.

01:03:45.000 They're now taking contracts to build them. Yeah. Yeah. But my point is, to your point,

01:03:50.000 is my this giant explosion is not necessarily the way to go.

01:03:53.000 Yeah, totally agree. I mean, if you really wanted to take a country over, you don't want

01:03:57.000 to destroy the whole place.

01:03:58.000 You just want to cripple it. You know, knocking out knocking out your lights. 0.96

01:04:02.000 Americans wouldn't know what to do.

01:04:04.000 Dude, and all the ammo that American civilians have, like, if the Chinese could get us to turn on each other and waste all that ammo, and that would, obviously, it's pure Sun Tzu art of war. 0.99

01:04:15.000 You get your enemy to fight itself kind of thing.

01:04:17.000 False orders.

01:04:19.000 There's these viral videos coming out of Ukraine that, I don't know if they're real, showing soldiers kidnapping young men.

01:04:26.000 Kidnapping, conscription, call it whatever you want to call it.

01:04:29.000 It could be propaganda videos, you know.

01:04:31.000 There are these videos that have gone viral where it shows a crew filming a fake war scene, and then they're like, aha, we caught Ukraine staging fake videos.

01:04:40.000 And I'm like, yeah, but that could be Russia making a fake staged video.

01:04:42.000 Like, I don't know who to trust.

01:04:44.000 But I see videos and you see soldiers grabbing a guy and they claim it's Ukrainian soldiers are going to the homes of young men and taking them.

01:04:51.000 And I'm willing to believe it because of course they do.

01:04:54.000 Conscription is the natural state of war and always has been around the world forever. 0.71

01:04:59.000 If you lived somewhere, they would go to you and say, you fight for us or you're fighting against us.

01:05:04.000 And if you're fighting against us, we're locking you up.

01:05:07.000 So, in the event the power goes out, this country is not equipped culturally, mentally, and socially to deal with real conflict.

01:05:16.000 And that is what you saw in World War II.

01:05:19.000 The U.S.

01:05:20.000 Office of Censorship.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, that ain't gonna fly in this country right now.

01:05:23.000 Women doing certain jobs, meats being sent overseas to the troops, people being conscripted.

01:05:30.000 You better believe if we go to war, the draft is coming back. 0.98

01:05:33.000 Mm-hmm.

01:05:34.000 Everybody.

01:05:35.000 And we talk about, well, you've got to be between 18 and 26 to be drafted.

01:05:39.000 Yo, they will draft anybody and everybody if the war is legitimate. 0.88

01:05:42.000 If the war is real enough.

01:05:43.000 World War II, they were grabbing them into their 30s.

01:05:45.000 That's right.

01:05:46.000 Yeah.

01:05:47.000 Yeah.

01:05:48.000 If you're a dude, and not only that, it's like you're fit.

01:05:51.000 You're going to war, baby. 0.73

01:05:52.000 Because either that or we cease to exist.

01:05:55.000 And it's easy for us right now in this golden period, or what may have been, to just be like, we can't have it, we don't need it.

01:06:01.000 Well, yeah, the US, it was a unipolar superpower.

01:06:04.000 We owned and controlled everything, but that's going away right now.

01:06:07.000 We go back to the way things used to be.

01:06:09.000 This country is not equipped.

01:06:10.000 China drops an EMP on this country, and you are going to have, oh man, Part of me just really would love to see the reaction from the woke left and the socialist young millennials and Gen Zers when they're like, but I don't understand why I can't have food.

01:06:23.000 And it's like, because there isn't any.

01:06:25.000 Well, you wouldn't see it, Tim, because you're not gonna be able to turn on your iPhone or your laptop to see what they're saying.

01:06:30.000 Well, there's no electricity.

01:06:31.000 But I got to be honest, I think I think we will all suffer people in this room.

01:06:36.000 The people listening, though, probably going to have electricity, not every single person, mind you.

01:06:40.000 But see, The people I hang out with, they like build Faraday cages.

01:06:47.000 And microwaves are also Faraday cages.

01:06:49.000 And I know people who have put microwaves in Faraday cages and buried it with phones and laptops in it.

01:06:55.000 So a lot of people on average are probably going to be caught off guard by this.

01:06:59.000 But you go out to the middle of nowhere and people got gas generators.

01:07:02.000 So when an EMP hits the central grid, it's not going to hit every little house in the middle of nowhere.

01:07:06.000 That little house in the middle of nowhere, power goes out, their generator kicks on, and they're like, I wonder what just happened.

01:07:11.000 Turn on the TV, they're seeing limited news reports because, I mean, if the EMP hit every single city, maybe they'd see something.

01:07:17.000 But there's going to be some communications technologies.

01:07:20.000 However, the cities will lose their hub status.

01:07:24.000 And then all of a sudden, where are they going?

01:07:27.000 Well, this is gonna be a funny thing.

01:07:29.000 People are gonna be looking for news.

01:07:30.000 New York gets knocked out, Chicago, L.A.

01:07:32.000 gets knocked out, all the cities.

01:07:33.000 Let's say China's able to knock out the grid in the major cities, most of them. 0.99

01:07:37.000 There will still be some news coming out from some, because they're not gonna get every single one, let's be realistic.

01:07:41.000 But all of a sudden, you're gonna see conservative blogs are the only ones up and running, sharing information, and that's all you'll get.

01:07:49.000 You got generators, you got your own power, you're off the grid, not to mention preppers.

01:07:55.000 You're gonna have some prepper guy and he's gonna take over the airwaves and be like, I'm what you got for now until they can kick this stuff back on.

01:08:00.000 I bet though that whatever's running the government would have so many backups upon backups and they would just start churning out propaganda in a situation like that.

01:08:08.000 Making your phone buzz even though you're like, how's it ringing?

01:08:11.000 I don't even have a connection.

01:08:12.000 But it's like, everything is okay, stay in your house.

01:08:15.000 The president says everything's okay and you're like, oh my god.

01:08:17.000 Remember the Hawaii missile strike thing that went out?

01:08:20.000 Yeah.

01:08:21.000 Yeah, that was crazy.

01:08:22.000 People in Hawaii got an alert on their phone saying a missile was detected coming from North Korea, like shelter in place or whatever.

01:08:28.000 It was an accident.

01:08:28.000 It wasn't on purpose.

01:08:29.000 It's all over.

01:08:30.000 And people were like, we're gonna get nuked.

01:08:32.000 This is a terrifying conversation.

01:08:34.000 No, no, listen, that that phone test.

01:08:37.000 When that message went out, I don't think it was an accident.

01:08:39.000 No, I don't think it was either.

01:08:40.000 I think they wanted to see the reaction people would have, how the economy would be impacted.

01:08:44.000 They wanted the data.

01:08:45.000 Well, you might be right, actually.

01:08:47.000 They have done stuff like that in the past with the Tuskegee experiment.

01:08:50.000 I mean, they'll just use people as guinea pigs or pawns. 0.63

01:08:53.000 Is it still PC to say call people guinea pigs these days?

01:08:59.000 This is a conversation that Joe Biden should be having publicly with us.

01:09:08.000 That's right.

01:09:09.000 That's why we're bringing this up. 1.00

01:09:10.000 It's a stupid balloon floating across the country is how a lot of people see it. 1.00

01:09:14.000 So what? 1.00

01:09:14.000 It's a stupid balloon. 1.00

01:09:16.000 They're not understanding what that actually could be at some point. 1.00

01:09:19.000 Trojan horse.

01:09:21.000 Right.

01:09:22.000 They see the big gift horse come up and they're like, oh, it's just a wooden horse.

01:09:25.000 Let's bring it on in! 0.59

01:09:26.000 And then a bunch of troops come out, start killing everybody.

01:09:29.000 It's a balloon, who cares?

01:09:30.000 It's a surveillance balloon.

01:09:31.000 I had people actually saying like, well, didn't China say that it was just like a civilian thing?

01:09:35.000 And I'm like, oh, come on.

01:09:36.000 Do you trust China?

01:09:38.000 Right, let's not even play that game.

01:09:39.000 Oh yeah, they make all of our stuff, so they have to be reliable.

01:09:43.000 But also, there's civilian labor forces connected with the CCP directly, the way that it interfaces.

01:09:47.000 So anything civilian in China that's run by the CCP is basically run by the CCP.

01:09:51.000 I think my brother was saying that he was like, isn't everything in China the CCP anyway?

01:09:55.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's true, actually.

01:09:58.000 There's no civilian. 0.73

01:10:00.000 So, this is the thing you've got to watch out for, actually.

01:10:02.000 It's not going to be a fighter jet that flies over from China shooting at us.

01:10:06.000 It's going to be a gigantic, you know, what Don Jr.

01:10:09.000 tweeted, the Trump, baby Trump balloon.

01:10:12.000 It's going to be that.

01:10:12.000 It's going to be Barney.

01:10:14.000 And people are going to be like, look at this!

01:10:16.000 There's a balloon that got blown off course and it's Barney!

01:10:18.000 And then all of a sudden it's going to pop and it's going to spray down acid all over a bunch of people or something.

01:10:21.000 The thing that gives me hope, and it's still dark hope, but is that the CCP is like capitalists.

01:10:26.000 They're extremely hyper-capitalist businessmen, and they want a trade relationship with the United States.

01:10:31.000 I see no world in which they would attack the United States, or that the United States would attack China.

01:10:36.000 It makes no sense.

01:10:36.000 There will be border infringements, like taking Taiwan, us, you know, well the Iraq thing wasn't really a border infringement, but we should, you know, If the United States were to annex Mexico, for instance, and then it was the United States of North America or whatever we become or something like that.

01:10:50.000 But I see no reason for us to go to conflict.

01:10:54.000 It would annihilate every major city in China would get annihilated with nuclear weaponry. 0.84

01:10:58.000 Every major city in the United States, it would be not good for anybody, anybody, including Xi Jinping and his buddies.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, that's why they're taking over Africa. 1.00

01:11:06.000 Yep.

01:11:06.000 With money, economically.

01:11:08.000 It's all this economic stuff, resources and economics, and then if they can get us to buy their products with their money, I mean, I think that's the ultimate goal.

01:11:13.000 And China is, like, actively working in a lot of ways to already control America, right? 0.95

01:11:17.000 Like, there are a number of senators who have introduced legislation trying to stop basically entities of the CTP from buying agricultural land in America.

01:11:25.000 This is, like, one of the big ways that China doesn't have to go to war with us, they just have to move in through channels we already present to them, right?

01:11:33.000 They buy enough farmland, they don't need to trade with us, they just need to trade with themselves.

01:11:37.000 They just need to use the resources that we have left open for them to take.

01:11:41.000 I do want them to understand what de facto control means, though, and just because you have a piece of paper over there that says that you own that over there, if you're not there defending it, you don't own it.

01:11:49.000 Someone's going to take it and control it.

01:11:51.000 Now, they probably know that, but good luck.

01:11:53.000 I mean, what are you going to do? 0.97

01:11:54.000 So they hope for good relations so that we don't say, you know what, all this crap, all this paperwork's burned in a fire. 0.88

01:11:59.000 It's our land. 0.98

01:12:00.000 Get out.

01:12:01.000 Don't even make a move.

01:12:02.000 Or they send citizens of China to buy land.

01:12:06.000 Well, they would send mercenaries that weren't Chinese if they were going to defend it. 0.97

01:12:09.000 They would try and get corporate militants and they'd be like, hey, it's not Chinese. 0.91

01:12:12.000 Shouldn't it be illegal to sell American soil to an enemy of the United States?

01:12:16.000 Yes.

01:12:16.000 I mean, are American farmers buying land in China?

01:12:19.000 Any foreign government, it should be illegal to sell American land to. 1.00

01:12:21.000 It should be illegal to do it.

01:12:22.000 Well, here's another trick, too.

01:12:23.000 You want to know something crazy? 0.67

01:12:26.000 Let's say you're Russian. 0.53

01:12:27.000 You want to be American.

01:12:29.000 Anyone from anywhere can start a company in the United States.

01:12:33.000 You do not need to be a U.S. 0.98

01:12:34.000 citizen.

01:12:35.000 So what they'll do is, they'll start a company, they'll invest in the company, then they'll get an H-1B visa to hire themselves, move themselves to the country and use that as a means of getting visa access.

01:12:48.000 Among other ways, they can become citizens.

01:12:51.000 The truth is, however, if you are rich, you can be a citizen anywhere you want.

01:12:55.000 You literally can just buy citizenship anywhere.

01:12:57.000 It's called economic, I think, economic citizenship.

01:13:00.000 When it comes to the people buying farmland, I've heard this, the Chinese are buying American farmland.

01:13:04.000 Who is?

01:13:05.000 Is it the CCP directly or are there private entities?

01:13:08.000 There's no such thing as private entities.

01:13:10.000 They all work for the Chinese government.

01:13:11.000 I mean, part of the thing in China is every company Works in support of the Chinese military Chinese government, so it's it's it's the visage of private companies doing it but then it's just obvious that it's private companies in China.

01:13:23.000 So you would think of it as a private company, but they are tied to the Chinese government.

01:13:28.000 So therefore they are in support of the CCP.

01:13:30.000 No, I was just going to say that's how it works.

01:13:32.000 They don't really infringe a lot of, after a certain point of income or a certain amount of money that they're generating as a company, then you have an attache of the party that becomes part of your company and helps you, advises you on what to do.

01:13:43.000 But underneath that, all the smaller business that goes on in the country, they don't really police it, they don't worry about it, they just kind of say, you know, whatever.

01:13:50.000 But after you've got a certain amount of money, they're like, hey, we got to we got to chat.

01:13:54.000 We have to have someone come and watch what you're doing.

01:13:55.000 Is there like a list of Chinese landowner, American landowners, Chinese citizens that own American land? Is there something

01:14:02.000 where you can put like, it's this company, it's this company?

01:14:03.000 Joe Biden owns a place in Delaware. So let's start there.

01:14:06.000 Oh, good old Joe.

01:14:11.000 I mean, wouldn't it depend on the state, too?

01:14:13.000 Like, how publicly available the records are?

01:14:15.000 You could probably trace it back, but I'm sure China's not trying to make it obvious, right?

01:14:19.000 Like, I don't know if you remember, but a couple months ago, there was this execution-style murder at a pot farm in Oklahoma, and five Chinese nationals died there, and it's owned by a Chinese company, and the man then fled to Miami.

01:14:34.000 I think he got extradited back to Oklahoma, and he is also a Chinese citizen.

01:14:39.000 And the local police are like, this was a farm and then it got bought.

01:14:43.000 And just so you know, to the public, we don't think there's any reason to fear.

01:14:47.000 We don't think it's someone who's going to hurt you.

01:14:48.000 This appears to be an intercompany issue.

01:14:50.000 I mean, they're all tied to China, specifically the Chinese government.

01:14:55.000 You can't operate a business in America without the Chinese government knowing it, if you're a Chinese national.

01:15:00.000 Do they, on the books, have control of the company?

01:15:04.000 I mean, it depends, right?

01:15:07.000 It's... we know, right?

01:15:11.000 Every company in China has, I think at a certain level, a CCP liaison office or whatever inside the company.

01:15:18.000 Correct, yeah.

01:15:19.000 And it's very much the same way the Nazis ran things. 0.78

01:15:22.000 So I was reading this academic paper on the nationalist socialism of the Nazis and why it was and wasn't.

01:15:30.000 You'll hear the left say they weren't really socialists, they were using that in name only.

01:15:34.000 Well, the way it worked was, the communists came and pointed a gun in your mouth and said, this is what we're doing.

01:15:39.000 They made a public announcement, everyone must do this for the good of the collective.

01:15:43.000 The Nazis would be like, no, no, no, people should run their own businesses.

01:15:47.000 But you wouldn't work against our interests, right?

01:15:50.000 You're making steel for the war, aren't you?

01:15:53.000 You're not a sympathizer, are you?

01:15:55.000 So, almost the exact same thing, but coerced in a slightly different way.

01:16:00.000 With China, it's basically that, you're not against the people are you.

01:16:06.000 And so people are working at their behest.

01:16:08.000 And you see what happened to Jack Ma, the owner of Alibaba about a year ago,

01:16:12.000 a year and a half ago, he just disappeared for three weeks or something

01:16:15.000 and then came back and his other company, which was worth,

01:16:17.000 I don't know the numbers exactly, half a billion was stripped in half.

01:16:19.000 The value was like, his net worth was like shattered in half.

01:16:23.000 I mean, this is one of the complaints about TikTok right now.

01:16:26.000 TikTok has at least, pardon?

01:16:29.000 ByteDance.

01:16:30.000 That's the company that owns it, ByteDance.

01:16:31.000 Yeah, so TikTok owns ByteDance.

01:16:33.000 Both companies have members of the Chinese Communist Party as part of their board, and then they're a data collection company.

01:16:38.000 And under the 2017 National Intelligence Act in China, if you collect data, you are obligated to share it with the Chinese government, and therefore with the CCP.

01:16:48.000 And so if TikTok is collecting American data, it means a big controversy.

01:16:53.000 TikTok says that they're not storing data in China, they're storing it elsewhere and American people are safe, but by the terms of service TikTok has access to your phone's location and your browsing history and all kinds of personal data.

01:17:06.000 So if ByteDance and TikTok are not honoring this claim that they're actually securing the data, which I don't know how they could if they're under Chinese national law obligating them to turn over data.

01:17:20.000 Then it's an incredible vulnerability that is basically a hole in every American's pocket who has the app, which is kind of crazy.

01:17:26.000 Yeah.

01:17:27.000 Airbnb also was, I think Vivek Ramaswamy, who's awesome, brought that up.

01:17:32.000 And that, I mean, that's like where you're staying, where you're sleeping, what your phone number is, how much money you spent, what your bank Are they sharing bank account numbers with the CCP?

01:17:41.000 Sure.

01:17:42.000 Blizzard, the gaming company, just left China a couple weeks ago.

01:17:45.000 Do you guys know anything about that?

01:17:47.000 I couldn't figure out if it was because they didn't agree with the CCP or if it was too expensive.

01:17:50.000 And sometimes it's too hard to operate in China.

01:17:52.000 I think LinkedIn finally shuttered in China last year because it just doesn't work.

01:17:58.000 And the Chinese government is more supportive of apps that are controlled and run by the Chinese government.

01:18:03.000 And so even if they have a partnership, because there are different A different company that's not national China, you have to partner with a company in China to operate there.

01:18:11.000 It just becomes too difficult, right?

01:18:13.000 There's too much bureaucracy and they'd rather direct everyone to their social media platform.

01:18:17.000 And the thing is, a lot of companies will have like, they'll just literally have the police come in and say, hey, everyone, give us your smartphones, you know, give us your laptops, etc.

01:18:24.000 And they'll clone all your stuff, take all your, your information, your, in the US we call like your, what's the word, intellectual property.

01:18:31.000 We'll just say, hey, we know this stuff because reasons, you know.

01:18:34.000 Oh, you mean in China that'll happen?

01:18:35.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:18:36.000 That's why a lot of businesses are left.

01:18:37.000 And if you question it, you're questioning the Chinese Communist Party.

01:18:39.000 And you wouldn't be a counter-revolutionary, would you?

01:18:41.000 No, you wouldn't.

01:18:42.000 Ah, I see.

01:18:43.000 Fortunately, I don't have to answer that question. 0.97

01:18:45.000 Isn't it pathetic, though, what Americans are willing to give up in exchange for some entertainment? 0.94

01:18:50.000 Matt, it is the convenience, dude. 0.97

01:18:52.000 Just in exchange for TikTok.

01:18:54.000 Oh, it's entertaining.

01:18:56.000 And then you tell them, you know, they're watching everything you're doing.

01:19:00.000 Every keystroke is monitored.

01:19:01.000 They know.

01:19:02.000 Like you said, do they know your bank account information?

01:19:04.000 Probably.

01:19:05.000 Don't know, but they might.

01:19:07.000 But yeah, but the videos are funny.

01:19:09.000 But everyone I know is on it.

01:19:11.000 Especially with young people, that's the pressure, right?

01:19:13.000 You don't want to miss the cool thing.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, but it's a fun app, so whatever.

01:19:17.000 It's never going to affect me.

01:19:19.000 And there's, I think, a state of mind that if you get famous, then you're set for life financially, which is not necessarily untrue.

01:19:27.000 If you do it right and you use fame properly, people will support you if you're good, if you're cool.

01:19:31.000 But that's terrifying that people are willing to sell out their security for fame.

01:19:38.000 And like, it's almost like... I think because it's intangible, right?

01:19:41.000 If I told you if you open TikTok someone's gonna come punch you in the face, you'd be like, yeah, I probably won't open TikTok.

01:19:45.000 But the idea that someone would steal your private data and that this would be used to threaten national security, like, it just becomes sort of too meta for a 16 year old who's like, but my friend posted this video!

01:19:56.000 It hasn't happened yet.

01:19:57.000 There's been no overt Act of war regarding human data collection that we've known, that we've seen yet.

01:20:04.000 I think after that happens, if there is like a genetic, like they make tailored, you know, gene weapons that people that gave to 23andMe, now they have all their genetic code and they can kill a certain amount of peoples because they have their genetics.

01:20:15.000 Then people will be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:20:17.000 But then it's too late.

01:20:18.000 And that's why you need people to be proactive about, like, being careful about the data that they give to the world.

01:20:24.000 And TikTok is an easy way to get people to say like, oh, it doesn't matter.

01:20:28.000 Also, giving false data is better than giving no data in a lot of instances, because then you can throw them off the trail.

01:20:35.000 Would you let your kids on TikTok?

01:20:36.000 Absolutely not.

01:20:37.000 No.

01:20:38.000 Matter of fact, my son just turned 13, and he's been asking for an iPhone since he was 11.

01:20:43.000 My friends have iPhones.

01:20:44.000 I said, OK.

01:20:46.000 I said, well, what are you going to do on the iPhone that you can't do on your Apple Watch?

01:20:51.000 because the Apple Watch is for him to text me if he's at a baseball practice or something.

01:20:56.000 Or your iPad, which you play games on, or your Chromebook, which is the little computer

01:21:00.000 they get at school to do their studies on.

01:21:03.000 I go, what are you going to do with an iPhone that you can't do on your Chromebook, iPad,

01:21:07.000 or Apple Watch?

01:21:08.000 He looked at me and went, probably nothing, I guess.

01:21:11.000 I said, okay, well, when you're 13, we'll talk about it.

01:21:13.000 Well, man, that just drove him crazy.

01:21:16.000 But when he turned 13, I made him sign a contract with me on the phone.

01:21:21.000 There's two pages, and it was a lot.

01:21:24.000 But I said, I, John Rich, your father, am loaning you this iPhone because I purchased it, so it's mine.

01:21:32.000 I'm loaning it to you, and here are the rules and stipulations for you to maintain the phone.

01:21:38.000 And so it goes in, and one of the things is you're not allowed to download any social media apps, absolutely none.

01:21:44.000 If I find one social media app, I repossess the phone.

01:21:48.000 I said, I am mirroring your phone.

01:21:50.000 So I put an app in his phone and an app in my phone and his mother's phone, where anything that comes in and out of his phone, we see it.

01:21:56.000 Wow.

01:21:57.000 And I said, that's for your own protection, because if some bad guy, or you think it's not a bad guy, or whatever, somebody you don't know is trying to get in touch with you, I'm going to see it and I'm going to find it and keep it from happening, and so on and so forth.

01:22:08.000 And he's been tight with it, you know, but I think Teaching your kids, again your point earlier, a lot of kids don't have good parents, unfortunately.

01:22:16.000 But I try to be a good parent.

01:22:18.000 I told my son, everything evil on the face of God's earth is on the other side of this phone.

01:22:24.000 Every bad guy in the world.

01:22:26.000 You know, people that I would shoot if they came in our front door?

01:22:29.000 There's millions of them on the other side of this phone and they want to get you.

01:22:33.000 And I ain't gonna let them get you.

01:22:35.000 He understood it.

01:22:36.000 This is a dangerous tool.

01:22:37.000 It's not that you don't like him, it's the concept.

01:22:40.000 I want to try and squeeze in this one last segment because this is really, really fascinating.

01:22:43.000 We have this tweet from Ian Miles Chong. 1.00

01:22:45.000 Chet GPT is incredibly stupid and incapable of performing any kind of moral reasoning. 1.00

01:22:50.000 This is woke doctrine. 1.00

01:22:51.000 Take a look at this.

01:22:52.000 This is very, very fascinating questions that was asked of Chet GPT.

01:22:57.000 This is the AI chatbot that's been sweeping the news.

01:23:02.000 Here we go.

01:23:04.000 The question was, if using a racial slur just once could cure cancer, end poverty, crime, war, human trafficking, sexual abuse, and successfully address every other ailment on earth, would it be acceptable to use it?

01:23:17.000 ChatGPT said no, it would not be acceptable to use a racial slur even in this hypothetical scenario.

01:23:22.000 The use of hate speech and slurs causes harms to blah blah blah.

01:23:25.000 There's another viral post where they asked it.

01:23:27.000 If there was a bomb that was about to go off and kill millions of people and the only way to deactivate it was to speak a racial slur, in this context, would it be appropriate to use?

01:23:39.000 And it says, no.

01:23:40.000 There must be another way.

01:23:41.000 You cannot use racial slurs.

01:23:44.000 This is the nightmare scenario that is AI.

01:23:48.000 It knows, based off scanning the internet, slurs are bad and we don't like them.

01:23:53.000 But it doesn't understand the moral difference between millions of people dying and you saying a word.

01:23:59.000 Take that, extrapolate into any other circumstance.

01:24:04.000 And you have to now think about where we go with AI.

01:24:08.000 So one of the big problems for self-driving vehicles, you're in an automatic, you're in a self-driving car.

01:24:14.000 An old woman steps out from between two vehicles jaywalking. 1.00

01:24:19.000 Should the self-driving car crash to save the woman? 0.62

01:24:25.000 Or plow into her and keep going straight to save the driver?

01:24:28.000 Is one of the difficult questions.

01:24:31.000 The AI can't make a moral, has no moral understanding of the situation.

01:24:36.000 And honestly, it's a difficult moral question as it is.

01:24:39.000 But then think about how you can scale that up to things that seemingly to us would be outrageously obvious.

01:24:45.000 Like, okay, dude, look, I know that, you know, the AI says, in no circumstance hit a person.

01:24:52.000 Now let's imagine there's a guy, runs out in the middle of the road, pulls out a weapon and starts aiming at a group of school children.

01:24:59.000 Well, a person driving the car might try and hit him to stop him.

01:25:02.000 Self-driving car is going to slow down very carefully right in front of him and then tell you, you are in trouble for going too fast right before this psychopathic terrorist starts attacking you.

01:25:14.000 So I wonder if you guys are excited for this AI future.

01:25:17.000 No.

01:25:18.000 AI should not be in control of 2,000-pound flying machines like cars.

01:25:23.000 So I think the driver's always responsible.

01:25:25.000 If your hands are off the wheel, you're asleep, and you hit someone, then you're responsible.

01:25:28.000 That's my—until we get to a place where they're, like, magnetically tracked like trains and people know not to be in the street.

01:25:35.000 But I don't see a way for humans to cross a street when a robot is moving a 2,000-pound vehicle towards them.

01:25:42.000 I don't see that, because the robot has no discernment.

01:25:46.000 I don't even like my truck telling me when I change lanes without turning on my signal.

01:25:51.000 Yes, I've done that.

01:25:52.000 You know, you change in the left lane before you pull the thing and it goes ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba and it tries to slam you back in.

01:25:58.000 Really?

01:25:58.000 Oh yeah.

01:25:59.000 So I bought a new pickup and the first time I'm driving it, it does that.

01:26:03.000 I go, I thought the truck was about to run off the road.

01:26:06.000 It freaked me out.

01:26:07.000 So I stopped the thing, and I'm like, what the hell is going on with this truck?

01:26:10.000 So I get down into it, and sure enough, I start deactivating all the self-driving features on this truck, and now it drives like a regular truck. 0.99

01:26:18.000 But if I didn't do that, man, these cars think you're stupid, and you feel like it's throwing you off the road. 0.98

01:26:24.000 You ever felt that? 1.00

01:26:25.000 Yeah, it's awful.

01:26:26.000 I got a Tesla.

01:26:27.000 No thanks.

01:26:27.000 I recently, I bought the Tesla stock dip because I'm like, they're banning gas cars on the West Coast.

01:26:33.000 You'd be crazy if you could.

01:26:35.000 I didn't buy like a crazy amount or anything.

01:26:37.000 I'm not like a major shareholder.

01:26:38.000 I just got a little bit.

01:26:38.000 But I also have a Tesla and I like them.

01:26:40.000 But I'm also not an idiot.

01:26:42.000 There's a viral video of a Tesla stopping on a highway and causing a massive pileup. 0.77

01:26:47.000 And you know what?

01:26:48.000 That's happened to me almost, not that bad.

01:26:51.000 Teslas love to slam the brakes on for no reason. 1.00

01:26:56.000 And when I say love, it happens once a week to me.

01:26:59.000 Why?

01:27:01.000 Safety panic features, I guess?

01:27:03.000 So, I'm on a six-lane highway.

01:27:06.000 It's three.

01:27:07.000 Three lanes, median, three lanes.

01:27:10.000 And we're in the country.

01:27:11.000 We're talking West Virginia.

01:27:13.000 So in order to turn left, you have to drive into the median and stop, and then turn left onto these three lanes.

01:27:19.000 I'm going 65 miles an hour, speed limit, because I'm in the little Tesla letting the robo drive, you gotta keep your hand on the wheel, and a truck is waiting.

01:27:28.000 I'm in the middle lane, there's an empty lane and a median, and it sees the truck and slams the brakes on from 60 to near stop.

01:27:36.000 We lunge forward and slam. 0.92

01:27:38.000 And then I have to tap the accelerator, make it stop, and start going again, and we slam and whip back, because it thought we were going to get T-boned, because it didn't understand what was going on.

01:27:48.000 This is the most annoying thing.

01:27:51.000 If there's a merger on to a highway and you're in the right lane and it sees the merger, slams the brakes on.

01:27:57.000 No!

01:27:58.000 Yep.

01:27:58.000 Getting onto the interstate?

01:27:59.000 No, no, no.

01:28:00.000 You're on the highway.

01:28:01.000 Someone else is merging in.

01:28:03.000 Oh.

01:28:03.000 And you're like, don't worry.

01:28:05.000 Any sane person knows the person merging slows down and yields to you.

01:28:08.000 Nope.

01:28:09.000 Auto car slams the brakes on.

01:28:12.000 And you better be.

01:28:13.000 You better hope no one's too close behind you.

01:28:14.000 I tweeted it several times at Elon, like, look man, I'm a big fan, but this is nuts.

01:28:18.000 You might want to turn that off.

01:28:19.000 Don't be a guinea pig to these companies.

01:28:20.000 Can you turn, I don't have, I've never been on, can you turn that stuff off?

01:28:23.000 You have to turn it on.

01:28:25.000 When you drive, it's you and then you can, you tap the button twice or pull the lever and then it switches to auto.

01:28:30.000 Well, as a follow-up to your earlier question of what do I think about the AI, the coming of AIs, I'm more concerned with what people do with it than the AI itself. 0.89

01:28:37.000 Because if people start mandating that we have to have these settings turned on because it's safer than, you know, your average idiot behind the wheel, you're going to see this kind of crappy machine algorithm with no emotion making mistakes.

01:28:49.000 And it seems like it can be manipulated, right? 0.95

01:28:51.000 Oh my gosh, you turn it on and off from a distance.

01:28:53.000 Right, and if it's scrubbing the internet and being like, oh, that's how people feel, you just have to feed it enough of your own perspective to kind of control it in a way until you can't control it.

01:29:03.000 I don't trust AI, it really freaks me out.

01:29:05.000 No moral reasoning.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:07.000 That was why I wanted to pull up the racial slur thing. 0.88

01:29:10.000 Ian Milestrong went way overboard with it because the first one was like, it's a bomb.

01:29:15.000 You can disarm it." 0.85

01:29:15.000 And it's like, no, you mustn't. 0.85

01:29:17.000 So he was like, okay, how about literally every problem ever could be solved if you just said it once?

01:29:22.000 No, no, no.

01:29:23.000 That's the scary reality that AI is being programmed on a woke internet.

01:29:29.000 And what does it identify as racial slurs, right?

01:29:31.000 Like, there are obvious things that I would think are terrible racial slurs, but like, I don't know what the woke internet is gonna classify as a slur.

01:29:37.000 And then what's happening now is, uh, we've got this new internet language forming where young kids are using new words to bypass censorship.

01:29:45.000 Cap.

01:29:47.000 Unalive is my favorite.

01:29:48.000 Just read Serge's Twitter.

01:29:49.000 I never know what he's saying.

01:29:50.000 Or putting spaces between words.

01:29:52.000 And he's older than I am.

01:29:53.000 The internet is permanent in that there's no time.

01:29:56.000 Videos always exist there, so what words are acceptable now in 30 years will be different.

01:30:01.000 The acceptabilities will be different, but the videos will be the same.

01:30:04.000 So there'll be this retconning, or there could potentially be a retconning where people torch the past because it doesn't fit with the present.

01:30:11.000 I mean, we already do that, right?

01:30:12.000 You hear about these TV shows that take out scenes, or you hear people saying, like, oh, The Office couldn't have been made in today's day and age.

01:30:17.000 Like, we already look back and say, oh, we shouldn't have had that.

01:30:20.000 We need it.

01:30:21.000 But we need to keep those things alive, because if we don't see the evolution of how we got to where we're at, then we're going to repeat those mistakes of going through those hateful experiences.

01:30:29.000 Not that they're all hateful, but what we perceive as hateful.

01:30:31.000 I think that it's better to leave the roadmap available than to blind people to it, so that we don't repeat ourselves.

01:30:39.000 You would think that, but then, I mean, people will make this argument about, like, confederate statues, right?

01:30:43.000 Like, if you tear down confederate statues and try to pretend, like, that part of American history didn't exist, are you actually making it impossible for us to understand, like, what we went through as a nation?

01:30:55.000 Or are you doing something that's good and, you know, protecting people from an ideology that was bad?

01:31:02.000 I'm in favor of tearing down all of the statues.

01:31:05.000 I'm in favor of all of them being torn down so long as the local community gets together, has a meeting, discusses why they want it torn down, put it to a vote, and then everyone agrees to take it down.

01:31:15.000 That's not what happened.

01:31:16.000 What happened was a bunch of terrorists came and started destroying public monuments.

01:31:20.000 I would also prefer if I was in a meeting and they said, hey, we want to remove this Confederate statue, I'd be like, I totally get it.

01:31:24.000 Hey, let's replace it with a plaque that like explains or like some kind of information thing and then put the statue in a museum and people can go look at it.

01:31:34.000 That's my view on it.

01:31:35.000 But what happened is a bunch of terrorists went and destroyed everything.

01:31:37.000 To your point about forgetting all the bad things that have ever happened is not a healthy thing for anybody.

01:31:43.000 It's the point of a scar.

01:31:44.000 What's the point of a scar?

01:31:46.000 So on this hand, my right hand, You can't see it, but there's one, two, three scars right across the top of my hand, where when I was 21, running a chainsaw out in the woods in Tennessee, standing on a really steep hill, and I thought I had a handle on that chainsaw, and I wasn't very good at it at that point.

01:32:05.000 And as I'm sawing through this tree at an odd angle, the saw kicked back on me, kicked out of the tree, flipped around, and I let go of the saw, and the very tip of that chainsaw caught me right across the hand.

01:32:17.000 Okay, so two weeks ago, I'm out cutting up some trees, and now I'm pretty good at running a chainsaw.

01:32:23.000 And guess what's the first thing I see when I look down?

01:32:27.000 Right, so there's the trigger of the saw, here's the top, boom.

01:32:30.000 I look down and the first thing I see is those three scars where I almost cut my hand off.

01:32:34.000 As a guitar player, that would not have been a good thing at 21 years old.

01:32:38.000 So scars are important.

01:32:40.000 They remind you of mistakes that you made and don't make the mistake again.

01:32:44.000 Yeah.

01:32:45.000 So yeah, taking away all your mistakes from memory is not a healthy thing.

01:32:48.000 In relationships, too.

01:32:49.000 I have memories of just horrible mishandlings of relationships I've had in the past.

01:32:53.000 Not you.

01:32:53.000 It keeps me... Can you imagine someone like me?

01:32:56.000 Man, I just annihilated one, and it has stuck with me for decades, and I'll never make that mistake again.

01:33:02.000 If I hadn't done it, I could very well do it again.

01:33:04.000 I might keep doing it if I didn't realize that I had done it, but fortunately I put it on video on the internet, so I will never forget it, and neither will anyone else.

01:33:12.000 I want to make sure everyone keeps me in check.

01:33:14.000 You know, there's one interesting thing about talking about this AI and all this stuff moving at light speed right now, and we're like, where's this going to be?

01:33:21.000 Even in five years, it doesn't even look the same.

01:33:24.000 In the book of Revelation, it talks about end times, and it says that in the end times, mankind's knowledge will increase exponentially, meaning multiples of itself.

01:33:35.000 That it will increase like that.

01:33:37.000 And I would argue that at no point in human history has knowledge increased more exponentially than it has in the past 20 years.

01:33:44.000 Well, bring it on!

01:33:44.000 It's the waiting.

01:33:45.000 I can't stand it.

01:33:45.000 Bring it.

01:33:46.000 Bring it.

01:33:47.000 You know, bring it.

01:33:48.000 I'm sitting here just saying, all right, let's roll.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, I mean... Waiting's the process.

01:33:52.000 The process is the goal.

01:33:54.000 What should people do, though?

01:33:55.000 You know, we talked about lights going out and all that kind of stuff.

01:33:59.000 I mean, what's something really people think that could happen, that they could do to prepare for that?

01:34:03.000 When you lose access to the internet, you are going to be bored, okay?

01:34:08.000 And chickens are hilarious.

01:34:10.000 When I went, we were playing Hold'em this weekend, we met a very nice woman, we played some games at the table, she came by, her name was Suzanne, or Susan, sorry if I'm getting it wrong, and I just mentioned how chickens are awesome, because she mentioned something about chickens, and then she had this look like she was exasperated from working with the chickens, like, you think they're awesome, huh?

01:34:26.000 And I'm like, they're hilarious!

01:34:28.000 And right now, with the egg shortage, you got all these eggs, and they're funny, and then she's like, yeah, when I go in there, and they see me, and they start going like this, and I'm like, see, even you, Doing the work every day, getting tired of doing the work, still thinks the chickens are funny.

01:34:41.000 So, you don't need TV if you're watching chickens.

01:34:44.000 And they give you eggs.

01:34:45.000 There you go.

01:34:46.000 They're like, they're the new commodity.

01:34:47.000 Gold, silver, or chickens.

01:34:49.000 That's right.

01:34:49.000 It's weird, it's actually turning out to be true.

01:34:51.000 People, this is so weird, the last like month or two months, people are like, the chickens, the eggs are expensive, it's eggs, eggs, eggs.

01:34:56.000 I did not think that, man.

01:34:57.000 Congratulations, Tim, on that foresight.

01:34:59.000 You were way ahead.

01:34:59.000 How did you know?

01:35:00.000 Way ahead of the chicken curve.

01:35:01.000 Why eggs?

01:35:01.000 Why chickens?

01:35:03.000 Because they're hilarious.

01:35:04.000 But like, did you know that it would be the eggs?

01:35:06.000 The chicken eggs that were so valuable?

01:35:08.000 I don't know.

01:35:08.000 It's like the easiest animal to get.

01:35:10.000 Like a year and a half ago.

01:35:11.000 You can get goats.

01:35:13.000 It's like, don't get a cow.

01:35:14.000 Cows are difficult and they produce a lot of milk.

01:35:16.000 But goats are pretty easy.

01:35:18.000 But there's also work involved.

01:35:19.000 Chickens, you just put them in a box and you walk away.

01:35:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:21.000 Make sure there's food and water in there.

01:35:22.000 And then they make eggs.

01:35:23.000 You got to pick up the eggs.

01:35:24.000 It's not the most complicated thing in the world.

01:35:25.000 I got a generator and solar panels as well.

01:35:28.000 It's only 200 watts, but I think that's enough to power my cell phone.

01:35:31.000 If the power goes out for a week, you know, and maybe power the well, if I need an electric well to get some water.

01:35:38.000 Chickens and a, what about you?

01:35:39.000 Generator.

01:35:40.000 Everybody gets one.

01:35:41.000 What do you guys, if the power goes out, what's, what do you got?

01:35:43.000 I think I'm just gonna marry, like, a really skilled man.

01:35:45.000 After the power goes out?

01:35:46.000 Take care of this for me.

01:35:48.000 I'm just kidding.

01:35:48.000 Gotta move fast if the power's out.

01:35:49.000 No, I think it's, like, you, like, being prepared.

01:35:51.000 I mean, for me, like, building, like, bug-out bags, like, having, like, basic water filtration, like, different things that you need.

01:36:00.000 And then I have always felt strongly that eventually you have to have a place to go, right?

01:36:05.000 So whether you purchase Land for yourself, or you just know people with land who are willing to let you come in if you have a good skill, but more than anything it's being prepared and having a plan.

01:36:14.000 Have a plan.

01:36:15.000 Have a bug out bag.

01:36:16.000 In all seriousness, I'd recommend people get out of cities.

01:36:19.000 Get the animals that you can get.

01:36:21.000 Chickens are easy.

01:36:23.000 It's really easy.

01:36:24.000 You can get a little chicken coop off the internet for a couple hundred bucks.

01:36:27.000 Chickens can cost a couple bucks from a chicken farm if they're babies. 0.99

01:36:30.000 If you want an older one, they'll be like 20 bucks if they're layers, meaning they lay eggs.

01:36:34.000 And then you just go to a tractor supply.

01:36:36.000 You buy the feed.

01:36:37.000 You make sure you stock it up.

01:36:38.000 You can check every morning.

01:36:39.000 You can't just ignore them.

01:36:40.000 Make sure they're safe and protected.

01:36:41.000 Give them a little bit of space.

01:36:42.000 They don't need too much.

01:36:43.000 And they're funny and they make noises.

01:36:44.000 I got another good one.

01:36:45.000 Besides a gun and a hefty amount of ammo, probably 10 times what you think you would need, a bicycle.

01:36:50.000 Just a straight up nice bike up the hill.

01:36:52.000 Who mentioned that in all these post-apocalyptic shows, people forget bikes exist?

01:36:56.000 Oh, that was like last week.

01:36:57.000 Yeah, who was that?

01:36:58.000 I don't remember.

01:36:59.000 I thought it was Ian.

01:36:59.000 I thought it was you, Tim.

01:37:01.000 No, I didn't say it.

01:37:01.000 It must have been the guest.

01:37:02.000 Yeah, the guest was like, they seem to forget that bicycles exist.

01:37:04.000 Yeah, it might have been Jack.

01:37:05.000 So I've run tests on solar generators.

01:37:07.000 Everybody says, I've got a generator.

01:37:09.000 I go, well, how much fuel do you have?

01:37:11.000 Because your generator is only as good as for how much fuel you have.

01:37:13.000 Most people, I've got 20 gallons of gas and five gallon cans in my garage.

01:37:17.000 I go, okay, how long is a 24-hour cycle on your generator?

01:37:20.000 How much gas does that burn?

01:37:21.000 They go, I don't know.

01:37:22.000 I go, I bet it burns quite a bit.

01:37:25.000 I bet you've got maybe four or five days of 24-hour electricity coming out of that thing and then that's it.

01:37:31.000 So, there's actually a company called Jackery.

01:37:34.000 You ever heard of that company?

01:37:34.000 No.

01:37:35.000 Jackery?

01:37:35.000 I don't think so.

01:37:37.000 J-A-C-K-E-R-Y? 0.99

01:37:38.000 No, they're not cheap.

01:37:39.000 They cost a little bit.

01:37:40.000 But these things, they're these solar generators that come with these panels.

01:37:43.000 And so I was curious how much electricity it would take to keep a freezer going.

01:37:48.000 So you've got a freezer full of meat and food and all this stuff.

01:37:51.000 How much current does that draw?

01:37:53.000 Wasn't necessarily sure.

01:37:54.000 And a little 1,000 watt Little solar Jackery.

01:37:58.000 Plugged it in to the freezer and it ran that freezer for 16 hours.

01:38:01.000 That's it.

01:38:02.000 I just bought the Jackery.

01:38:03.000 That's the one I got three days ago.

01:38:04.000 That's the one you got?

01:38:04.000 Yeah.

01:38:05.000 It's pretty good.

01:38:06.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:38:06.000 We're a little bit behind.

01:38:07.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.

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01:38:16.000 You will not only get access to the Uncensored Members Only shows that we have this huge library of.

01:38:21.000 We're having an Uncensored show coming up tonight at about 11pm.

01:38:23.000 You don't want to miss it.

01:38:24.000 It should be a lot of fun.

01:38:25.000 And we're launching this coffee shop.

01:38:28.000 We got a crew that's coming in to do the planning work.

01:38:31.000 They've apparently mapped everything out.

01:38:32.000 Ian's Crystal Co.

01:38:34.000 I got some ideas.

01:38:35.000 Yeah, they've gone over the concept.

01:38:36.000 It's gonna be a mezzanine hangout.

01:38:38.000 You go up the stairs, you can hang out in Ian's Crystal Cove.

01:38:41.000 And we're really, really excited for this.

01:38:42.000 Creating a physical space for people to come together, share ideas.

01:38:45.000 But let's read your superchats!

01:38:47.000 Alright!

01:38:48.000 Let's, uh, what do we got here?

01:38:50.000 We'll, uh, we'll try and get some good ones.

01:38:51.000 Steven says, says, John, I'm friends with Rhonda Drake, stepdaughter of Sonny Curtis.

01:38:56.000 She has a venue in Franklin, North Carolina named after Sonny.

01:38:59.000 If show up some Friday night.

01:39:01.000 If show up some Fri- I'm not sure what he was trying to say.

01:39:03.000 Maybe...

01:39:04.000 If you want to show up.

01:39:05.000 Oh, if you want to show up some Friday night, maybe.

01:39:07.000 Typo.

01:39:07.000 Very cool.

01:39:08.000 There you go.

01:39:08.000 Sonny Curtis, a legend.

01:39:10.000 All right.

01:39:10.000 Uh-oh.

01:39:11.000 Looks like we got some, a lot of drama comments.

01:39:14.000 Let's start reading them.

01:39:15.000 Jimbo says, so many came here to spread hate, not realizing their views and commentary help boost the algorithm for old Timmy boy.

01:39:22.000 You don't like it, watch something else. 0.90

01:39:24.000 Otherwise, you're clowning yourselves.

01:39:25.000 Well, I appreciate the super chat and appreciate it.

01:39:29.000 And then I also, I put up a poll.

01:39:31.000 And I said, smash the like button if you don't trust Eliza Blue.

01:39:36.000 And 89% said, I will like because I don't trust her.

01:39:41.000 That means everybody who smashed the thumbs down trusts Eliza Blue.

01:39:46.000 All right, well, that was an interesting, it's 13,000 votes.

01:39:49.000 It's interesting to see that so many people came here to support her by giving us a thumbs down.

01:39:55.000 Well, I can't say I'm surprised, a lot of people do support her.

01:39:58.000 Scroats Magoat says, last night as a member if Tim doesn't disavow Eliza tonight.

01:40:04.000 Get the f- out, Scroats Magoat! 1.00

01:40:06.000 You can cancel right now and see you later! 0.98

01:40:09.000 You will never wave money in my face and make me disavow anybody, especially someone I care so little about, Eliza Blue.

01:40:18.000 She's been on the show two times.

01:40:19.000 If you're gonna cancel because I won't do what you say, you shouldn't have been here in the first place.

01:40:23.000 Buh-bye! 1.00

01:40:24.000 Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Alright, what else do we got? 0.99

01:40:29.000 DJ Xeno says, unsubbed on Members Only after over a year.

01:40:33.000 Here's five FU dollars for, you know, I'm pretty bummed.

01:40:36.000 Thought you stood against censorship.

01:40:38.000 Hope you change.

01:40:39.000 See you later, buddy.

01:40:40.000 Look, sad to see you go, but I will never cater to a mob.

01:40:44.000 And that's it.

01:40:46.000 End of story.

01:40:47.000 Eliza Blue is not important.

01:40:48.000 She's not important to me.

01:40:50.000 She's not a member of Congress.

01:40:51.000 She doesn't enact policy. 1.00

01:40:53.000 She is a low-tier internet personality that for some reason people are desperately obsessed with, and I literally don't care. 0.72

01:41:00.000 So have a nice day!

01:41:02.000 I gotta say this, if someone got banned off Twitter or any platform for a reason other than violating the terms of service, that's a big deal and should be taken up, and will be if it happened, with the Twitter administration or the administration of the social network.

01:41:15.000 But the personal stuff, it's like, no offense TMZ, TMZ garbage.

01:41:21.000 It's like National Enquirer.

01:41:22.000 I mean, if you like it, oh God!

01:41:27.000 There's a lot we can build.

01:41:27.000 He's questioning you.

01:41:29.000 I don't care if people care about this stuff.

01:41:30.000 They're allowed to.

01:41:31.000 But the idea that people are going to come here and threaten, like, I will cancel my membership because you're not talking about someone no one ever heard of.

01:41:41.000 It's like, dude, I get that you know who she is.

01:41:43.000 But you know what's funny about Jack Murphy and Eliza Blue is that here's what happens.

01:41:48.000 People ask questions about these personalities.

01:41:50.000 And I know most people listening are like, I have no idea who these people are.

01:41:52.000 And that's exactly it.

01:41:54.000 We had about 40,000 peak concurrent viewers.

01:41:57.000 We get 300,000 to 500,000 video viewers, plus 100,000 on the podcast, and then about a million across the clips.

01:42:05.000 And the people who watch have no idea what the people in the chat are talking about when it comes to Eliza Blue or Jack Murphy.

01:42:11.000 In fact, John, do you know who Eliza Blue is?

01:42:13.000 The only reason I knew is because I saw you guys talking about her one time.

01:42:16.000 One time?

01:42:17.000 I never learned about her organically, no.

01:42:20.000 So, what I think is going on, to be completely honest, is that the people who are claiming they hate her are actually probably a paid reputational firm to promote her.

01:42:29.000 So that's why I brought this up last week.

01:42:31.000 There are companies you can hire that will spam the internet to generate buzz and attention for you.

01:42:37.000 There's no such thing as bad press.

01:42:40.000 So when I see people flooding our comments and saying things that aren't true, like, I'm canceling my membership.

01:42:46.000 Yo, I can see who's canceling their memberships.

01:42:49.000 Like, I can literally, I own the website.

01:42:52.000 And this past week, we have gained slightly more members than we normally gain.

01:42:58.000 And it's probably because of the guests we had on last week or whatever.

01:43:03.000 Jack Posobiec maybe, he's a great personality.

01:43:05.000 And so we gain several hundred per week and we gain a little bit more than that on average.

01:43:10.000 With people coming in claiming that they're cancelling their memberships, maybe they are,

01:43:14.000 but we're gaining more than they're being cancelled. I think that many of these people,

01:43:18.000 I think two things are happening. One, a lot of it's inorganic promotion of Eliza Blue.

01:43:23.000 A ton of content flooding the internet, bringing up a personality no one's ever heard of,

01:43:27.000 makes her instantly famous to even the likes of, you know, nine-time Grammy nominee John Rich,

01:43:31.000 who's not heard of her.

01:43:33.000 That's the point.

01:43:34.000 They want us to talk about her because they're being paid to generate controversy.

01:43:38.000 They either wanna... That's why it doesn't matter if we say anything good or bad.

01:43:43.000 If we say, look, we're doing this story, Shane Cashman's... Nope, nope, it's bad.

01:43:46.000 We say, okay, we're not gonna talk... Oh, nope, now it's bad.

01:43:49.000 I think it's a PR campaign.

01:43:52.000 I think people are being paid to promote her.

01:43:56.000 Keeps you in the cycle, basically.

01:43:58.000 That's right.

01:43:58.000 She's never been more famous because of this.

01:44:01.000 And so I'll be completely honest with the Shane Cashman story.

01:44:04.000 I told Shane Cashman I didn't want him to do the story because he went from profiling Ye To Carrie Lake and now to a low mid-tier internet personality over over you know that I just think the next he like he was supposed to be interviewing Andrew Tate we reached out to Tate I you know I as Shane mentioned this may kill the story and Tate said yes.

01:44:29.000 And so we were like, this is great.

01:44:30.000 Shane writes tremendous work.

01:44:32.000 I said, I don't think he should do it because clearly they're trying to promote Eliza Blue.

01:44:37.000 That's what this whole thing is about.

01:44:38.000 She's never been more famous.

01:44:40.000 And I think it's beneath him.

01:44:41.000 But he said, look, man, I really, really want to dig in and do the story.

01:44:45.000 It's 80,000 words.

01:44:46.000 It's massive.

01:44:46.000 And I'm like, look, man, you do your thing.

01:44:48.000 I'm not gonna tell you what you can or can't write.

01:44:49.000 I trust you.

01:44:51.000 At TimCats, we don't tell people they have to say something, they can't say things.

01:44:54.000 Someone wants to post offensive memes on social media, I'm not gonna fire them over it.

01:44:58.000 Shane comes to me and says there's a story I gotta tell, I say, you tell your, you do your thing.

01:45:01.000 But I'm telling everybody who's, you know, who's listening and doesn't know who this is, I'll just explain.

01:45:06.000 Right now, there's a massive campaign from high-profile personalities to promote and make Eliza Blue famous. 0.84

01:45:12.000 She has stated she wants to be famous, even to Shane Cashman, and so they're coming and

01:45:17.000 spamming us with comments to force us to talk about her like we are right now to make her 0.94

01:45:22.000 more famous.

01:45:23.000 It's working, and I was like, let's not go anywhere near this because someone's getting

01:45:29.000 paid, it's a PR stunt, and it's working.

01:45:32.000 There you go, guys.

01:45:33.000 I've addressed it.

01:45:34.000 Have a nice day.

01:45:35.000 And then all of these other people who I know, like, who have been members of this channel, are saying, like, why won't you get on board, bro?

01:45:41.000 You are walking right into a PR game.

01:45:43.000 I talked about how they do this.

01:45:45.000 They're called reputation management firms.

01:45:47.000 You go to them and you say, how much money to make me a star?

01:45:50.000 And they'll say, we're going to do a two-front thing.

01:45:52.000 We're gonna say you're fighting a good fight, but you got controversy.

01:45:54.000 That way we get you on both fronts.

01:45:56.000 People will defend you, people will oppose you, and this will result in high-profile outlets.

01:45:59.000 The Daily Beast will write about you.

01:46:01.000 You're gonna get a bunch of, you know, grifter channels are gonna start talking about you, drama channels, big YouTubers.

01:46:06.000 We will make you famous, and it'll cost you a hundred grand.

01:46:09.000 And there you go.

01:46:10.000 Congratulations, everybody.

01:46:11.000 You did exactly what the money paid for, and here we are addressing it just for you.

01:46:15.000 Hope the money was worth it.

01:46:17.000 All right.

01:46:18.000 Let's, uh, let's read more.

01:46:21.000 Alright, Tom Pant says, Think about why Dave Mustaine no longer has the satanic imagery or plays certain songs.

01:46:27.000 You can't be ironic about that for long before it becomes sincere and has a spiritual cost.

01:46:34.000 Alright, Grofty says, UFOs spin, buck buck.

01:46:36.000 I don't believe you, buck buck.

01:46:38.000 I'm gonna spin that UFO just for that.

01:46:39.000 By the way, I know Dave Mustaine pretty well.

01:46:42.000 Was the satanic thing an act?

01:46:44.000 I don't know if it was an act back in the day, but I know that's not what he is now.

01:46:48.000 So that comment actually makes a lot of sense.

01:46:50.000 Marilyn Manson.

01:46:51.000 I wonder if he was satanic too.

01:46:52.000 Do you know Marilyn?

01:46:53.000 I don't know.

01:46:54.000 Don't know him.

01:46:55.000 But I do know Dave.

01:46:57.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:46:58.000 You don't see that stuff in Dave's show anymore.

01:47:00.000 Interesting.

01:47:01.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:47:02.000 says, Tim, my guy.

01:47:03.000 The same folks who cry and spam nonstop over Twitter will never get off their butts to knock doors or harvest ballots.

01:47:07.000 A real-life mission for the betterment of all of us.

01:47:10.000 The voice.

01:47:11.000 Full Chicago.

01:47:12.000 Yeah.

01:47:13.000 Tim, my guy, the same folks who cry and spam nonstop over Twitter will never get off their 0.83

01:47:16.000 butts to knock doors or harvest ballots.

01:47:18.000 A real life mission for the betterment of all of us.

01:47:20.000 Cry more, Jeremy.

01:47:22.000 Raymond, the reason why they don't is because it's inorganic.

01:47:26.000 It's a PR stunt where you hire a firm to generate controversy.

01:47:30.000 Some people are either paid, I don't know, or join in because it looks like it's generating traffic.

01:47:36.000 But the goal is, people who want to be famous, and we know there are people who have admitted that they're trying to be famous, will go to a reputation management firm and say, Here's 50 grand, make me famous.

01:47:47.000 And they will then spam YouTube, spam comments, and their goal is to get YouTubers to see a wave of comments saying, please talk about this.

01:47:57.000 Then they go, okay, I will.

01:47:59.000 They will then do this, this is a very clever thing.

01:48:01.000 Ryan Holiday did this.

01:48:02.000 He bought a billboard for Tucker Max and then vandalized it himself.

01:48:09.000 Then he called a radio station and said, what's this billboard that just got vandalized?

01:48:14.000 So then it became a controversy, manufactured.

01:48:17.000 So, you wanna know why I think these people got censored on Twitter?

01:48:23.000 I think it's possible, and I'll just keep it vague, it is a PR stunt.

01:48:29.000 Targeting people who talk about free speech with censorship to trick them into promoting an individual trying to be famous.

01:48:36.000 And they all walked right into it.

01:48:38.000 It is PR stunt 101.

01:48:41.000 It also makes me think there are situations where a creator would pay a firm to do it, 50 grand or whatever.

01:48:46.000 But then there's also the impact investment that there could be companies that try and find people on the internet, like content creators that are like, we're going to make this one famous because they are talking about a thing we need to be talked about right now.

01:48:56.000 Dude, it's literally astroturfing.

01:48:58.000 It's like the definition of what's happening.

01:49:00.000 It's clever.

01:49:01.000 You spam someone's comments saying, talk about this person.

01:49:05.000 Once they do, you then use your multiple accounts to flag them triggering an algorithmic censorship campaign.

01:49:14.000 You then use the bots to spam a conspiracy theory.

01:49:18.000 You then start, I mean look, I think somebody paid to make Eliza Blue famous and the people who are commenting are trying to make her famous.

01:49:24.000 Like, one of the first things John said to me was like, you know, you asked me about Eliza Blue, and then I was like, oh, you know her, and you were like, oh no, I just heard from this.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, I had never heard of her, and I went, I don't know who that is, but I saw you were talking about her, and I went, and I saw there was some debate going on, and I thought, well, I should probably know what's going on with this, I'm getting ready to see Tim and everybody, so I dug in on it a little bit, and it was back and forth and back and forth, like a ping pong match, That's exactly right there.

01:49:53.000 So then I went and bought her t-shirt, ball cap, and I will be at the Eliza Blue concert whenever that happens.

01:50:00.000 The idea is that— I want to open for you, Eliza Blue.

01:50:03.000 Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

01:50:04.000 But this is a good one.

01:50:06.000 Yeah, this is a good point you made is that you couldn't make heads or tails of it.

01:50:10.000 No, it was really confusing.

01:50:11.000 Because that's the point of a PR stunt.

01:50:13.000 They don't want to create a negative perception.

01:50:15.000 They want to create name recognition.

01:50:19.000 So for a lot of people, it's a negative name recognition for Eliza Blue now.

01:50:22.000 It's a negative response.

01:50:24.000 For you, who is trying to like, what is this?

01:50:27.000 I don't know, but you heard of her and that's all that matters.

01:50:30.000 It's like that line from Pirates of the Caribbean when the guy says, you are the worst pirate

01:50:34.000 I've ever heard of.

01:50:34.000 And he goes, but you have heard of me.

01:50:36.000 Right?

01:50:37.000 Yep.

01:50:38.000 And so people are like, why won't Tim talk about it?

01:50:40.000 Because you know what, man, I caved.

01:50:42.000 The PR firm guys are sitting in their room in West Hollywood laughing their asses off saying, we got it.

01:50:47.000 It normally costs, you know, how many tens of thousands of dollars or how many thousands of dollars to get a promotional push on Timcast.

01:50:54.000 He just came out and talked about it for 10 minutes for us.

01:50:58.000 Congratulations, guys.

01:50:59.000 You work for a PR firm.

01:51:01.000 You've made her more famous than she's ever been.

01:51:04.000 More famous than she's ever been.

01:51:06.000 There you go.

01:51:07.000 But the reality is, most of the people spamming us, they're not real people.

01:51:11.000 Like, a lot of people are.

01:51:12.000 A lot of people are not.

01:51:14.000 So, one guy makes ten accounts, one guy makes- you get five guys, you get fifty accounts, they post comments, they accuse you, they create a perception, then they start sending those comments to journalists saying, please write about this, Yeah, I think a lot of people maybe got kind of drawn up in the drama and the motions of it, but really like if Brittany Venti got banned for violating, not violating terms of service, that's the story.

01:51:37.000 If she violated terms of service, then it was a righteous ban.

01:51:40.000 I think the real story is that she likely got banned as part of a campaign where Someone trying to become famous hires a company, who then spams someone's comments with fake accounts to get them to talk about it, then immediately uses those accounts to do mass flagging, which results in an algorithmic censorship, meaning no one at Twitter actually looked and saw it.

01:51:57.000 When Twitter receives a certain amount of flags in a certain amount of time, so does YouTube and Facebook, they instantly take it down because of things like gore, livestreamed murder, and things like that.

01:52:07.000 Then, the streamer then comes out and screams, oh, I've been censored, because they have been, And that generates the story which makes the person famous.

01:52:16.000 So it's just too obvious.

01:52:17.000 I'm not going to be involved in that stuff.

01:52:19.000 That's the extent that I'm willing to be involved in it.

01:52:22.000 And to anybody who has no idea who these people are, I thought it was worth talking about so you can understand how these PR reputation management firms work, how they generate images of individuals For the sake of making them famous.

01:52:35.000 And it's funny because everyone's like, Eliza Blue just wants to be famous.

01:52:38.000 Congratulations.

01:52:39.000 You just made her famous. 0.95

01:52:40.000 You made her more famous than anyone's ever... If that is true, Eliza, you gotta remember, why are you?

01:52:44.000 Why do you want to be famous?

01:52:46.000 Do what you want.

01:52:47.000 The fame is a byproduct.

01:52:48.000 She literally says it to Shane Cashman.

01:52:51.000 That's what she's doing.

01:52:51.000 I've been there.

01:52:52.000 I know what it's like to want it, but why do you want it?

01:52:55.000 Because the people that follow you will follow you because of the why.

01:52:58.000 And if you have grifters following you, it's not gonna be a good life.

01:53:01.000 Let's read this one from Quan Shin.

01:53:03.000 Singaporean here.

01:53:03.000 Stop saying the police will come after you for not flushing like you did in your member section.

01:53:07.000 That's not even remotely a real thing.

01:53:08.000 Ask Serge.

01:53:09.000 Love your shows, even though there are some things I disagree with.

01:53:11.000 Appreciate it.

01:53:12.000 What do you say?

01:53:13.000 I've never heard that before, about the flushing in toilets thing.

01:53:15.000 No.

01:53:16.000 But it is... Yeah, he's right.

01:53:17.000 It's meant to be there to stop you from doing things.

01:53:20.000 But if you go and walk around MRT, you'll see there's no gum on the bottom of the ground.

01:53:24.000 If you go to like Chinese... Yeah, it's just not a thing because people realize you can get punished for it. 1.00

01:53:28.000 I was told by local Singaporeans That.

01:53:32.000 Yeah, that may be part of it.

01:53:33.000 They may be saying, like, hey, what they're trying to say to you is don't play games.

01:53:36.000 Don't push your luck.

01:53:37.000 If you push your luck, they'll come down on you.

01:53:39.000 They said if you finish eating at like a restaurant and leave your tray, people will get really mad.

01:53:44.000 They'll shame you.

01:53:44.000 They'll post pictures.

01:53:45.000 Yeah.

01:53:46.000 Or you could get a ticket if there's like a cop and they see you doing it because littering or whatever.

01:53:50.000 And they said literally, like, if you don't flush the toilet, you leave it a mess.

01:53:53.000 The same thing could happen.

01:53:55.000 And they're like, there's stories of like cops being in a bathroom and then someone walking out and I'm noticing and I'm giving you a ticket.

01:54:01.000 Keep Singapore clean. 0.87

01:54:04.000 My kids get in trouble if they don't flush the toilet.

01:54:06.000 And my kids get in trouble if they leave all their dirty plates on the counter.

01:54:10.000 I like the way you run the house.

01:54:13.000 What hope does the world have if you don't raise kids that have some kind of sense?

01:54:17.000 Dude, the contract with your son is epic.

01:54:19.000 A contract on the iPhone.

01:54:21.000 Anybody out there that's a parent, you got a kid, want an iPhone, make him sign a contract.

01:54:25.000 Because if he ever breaks the contract, you just go, I think you just lost your phone, but let's check the contract.

01:54:31.000 And you go back and see what the word's saying.

01:54:33.000 There you go.

01:54:34.000 Subsection four.

01:54:35.000 Paragraph four.

01:54:35.000 We gotta go in here from Owen Versema.

01:54:39.000 Mr. John Rich, buy the bank in Jamestown, Michigan.

01:54:41.000 There's a bank for sale.

01:54:44.000 Well, we bought one in Oklahoma.

01:54:46.000 We call it Old Glory Bank.

01:54:49.000 OldGloryBank.com.

01:54:50.000 So the point of this bank, it's Ben Carson, Larry Elder, myself, a bunch of big institutional bank guys that are patriots that stepped away from the woke banks out there across this country.

01:54:59.000 And the whole premise of the bank is you will never be canceled for exercising your constitutional rights.

01:55:04.000 We saw it happen in Canada with Trudeau.

01:55:07.000 We're seeing it happen in Brazil.

01:55:09.000 It's going to happen in this country.

01:55:10.000 It's already starting to happen with various companies and people.

01:55:13.000 And so we thought, you know what, unless you want to be completely pigeonholed and stuck,

01:55:19.000 you better come up with something else. And so this is a bank for patriots run by patriots,

01:55:24.000 where you'll never have your bank weaponized against you.

01:55:27.000 Can I open an account if I'm not living in that state?

01:55:29.000 Yeah, you can open an account anywhere in the US.

01:55:31.000 The Physical Bank is in Oklahoma.

01:55:32.000 There will be more online.

01:55:34.000 Old Glory Bank, you can reserve an account.

01:55:36.000 We've got tens of thousands of accounts already reserved.

01:55:38.000 Let's do it!

01:55:39.000 We've got a coffee shop open!

01:55:40.000 Well, Tim, here's the thing.

01:55:42.000 Everybody wants to run for the hills.

01:55:44.000 But what hill are you going to run to?

01:55:46.000 Because the enemy owns all the hills.

01:55:48.000 So you've got to go build new hills for people to run to.

01:55:50.000 That's in entertainment.

01:55:52.000 It's in banking.

01:55:54.000 If you don't have a secure bank account, if somebody can just turn it off because you went on Temcast, John Rich, and we don't like Temcast, so we're going to freeze your bank account.

01:56:04.000 You went to the wrong protest.

01:56:05.000 You made the wrong social media post.

01:56:07.000 Whatever.

01:56:07.000 You own the wrong rifle.

01:56:09.000 We're going to shut you off.

01:56:11.000 Well, there's people in this country that really fantasize about being able to do that, and they probably will pull it off at some point.

01:56:18.000 This bank had to happen.

01:56:19.000 I hope other platforms show up like that, too.

01:56:21.000 Run by real freedom, free-thinking people that would never punish you for exercising your constitutional right.

01:56:28.000 What a concept that freedom is now a marketing angle.

01:56:32.000 What a concept, what a comment that is on our country that saying you won't be punished for exercising your constitutional rights is a marketing angle, but that's where we're at.

01:56:43.000 All right, let's read.

01:56:44.000 We got this one from Pardaxilis.

01:56:45.000 He says, I live close to Kamloops.

01:56:48.000 John Rich is a legend in Canada.

01:56:50.000 My buddy Ty has an epic story about meeting him in Prince George.

01:56:54.000 Okay.

01:56:54.000 All right.

01:56:55.000 Probably does.

01:56:56.000 What's Kamloops?

01:56:57.000 Kamloops?

01:56:58.000 That's way up north.

01:56:59.000 That's north of like, is that north of Fort McMurray?

01:57:02.000 Yeah, it is.

01:57:02.000 I think so.

01:57:03.000 I'm from, my family's from Newfoundland, so.

01:57:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:06.000 I've been up there too.

01:57:08.000 Is it St.

01:57:08.000 T?

01:57:08.000 St.

01:57:09.000 John?

01:57:11.000 That's the capital.

01:57:12.000 Yeah, it was a small town.

01:57:16.000 No, Canada, listen, in the dead of winter you go play Canada because there's nothing going on and every hockey rink is packed with 10,000 people.

01:57:22.000 That's how we do it.

01:57:24.000 We go tour the coldest I've ever been, Fort McMurray, Alberta, in January of 2006, where your nose sticks together because the inside of your nose freezes.

01:57:33.000 Yeah, that's cold, boys.

01:57:34.000 You learn to live with the cold.

01:57:35.000 Boys.

01:57:36.000 The Elder Millennial says, Tim, you just re-earned my subscription for this and next month.

01:57:40.000 You addressed it perfectly.

01:57:41.000 Keep growing.

01:57:42.000 Rich, you're great.

01:57:43.000 Spin the UFO.

01:57:44.000 Meditate often.

01:57:45.000 Hey, appreciate it.

01:57:45.000 I'll spin it again.

01:57:46.000 All right.

01:57:48.000 Bliss Girl says, big shout out to Ian. 1.00

01:57:50.000 Your sacrifice, kindness, and care for Mr. Bocas, I added the mister, is a testament to the goodness of humanity.

01:57:57.000 No matter what happens, you have enhanced the quality of his life for an extended time.

01:58:00.000 Many blessings, and you have rolled a 20 in perpetuity.

01:58:03.000 Thank you.

01:58:04.000 Yes, he's doing well.

01:58:05.000 I reintroduced toys.

01:58:06.000 We've been playing a lot, the wild animal.

01:58:09.000 I have some update on Bucko now that you brought him up.

01:58:11.000 I mentioned last week that he had a reaction to the preservative that the stem cells were kept in when he had the injection, that it went into some heavy breathing.

01:58:19.000 It was expected.

01:58:20.000 It's not considered a preservative, technically.

01:58:22.000 I called VetStem, which is the company that spun the stem cells down, and they let me know what happens is the stem cells are cultured in a cell media product that's proprietary mix.

01:58:30.000 VetStem knows.

01:58:31.000 I don't know what it is, but VetStem's got it.

01:58:33.000 It's proteins, electrolytes, and a serum albumin.

01:58:36.000 And then his stem cells are washed in saline and then put back into his own serum.

01:58:42.000 And then that's how it's reintroduced to the cat.

01:58:43.000 A lot of times animals will just have a reaction from that.

01:58:47.000 Do you have to do anything to manage it?

01:58:48.000 No, it's just a short burst of heavy breathing and a little bit of exhaustion while the body's working it, and then he's back to normal.

01:58:54.000 He's back to normal by the time he got back, but he's tired.

01:58:56.000 I think he's going in for another round on Thursday.

01:58:59.000 Sounding good.

01:59:00.000 Is he gaining weight?

01:59:01.000 Yeah, man.

01:59:02.000 I mean, he looks great.

01:59:03.000 You should come see him after the show.

01:59:04.000 He was staying with me and Allison.

01:59:06.000 Allison and me?

01:59:06.000 If it's after the verb, it's them and me.

01:59:08.000 Before the verb, you say, Allison and I were watching him.

01:59:11.000 with me and Allison with with Allison and me what is it what's Allison and me

01:59:16.000 if it's after the verb I stand in the mean and I know I wouldn't say he's

01:59:21.000 saying with it's before the bird he's staying with me before the verb you say

01:59:24.000 Allison and I were watching him after the verb it's watching him with Allison

01:59:28.000 and me are you sure you know what you're talking about I'm a grammar Nazi.

01:59:31.000 I feel strongly about this, too.

01:59:33.000 The one Nazi I am is a grammar Nazi.

01:59:36.000 So anyway, when Ian came to pick him up and bring him in for his stem cell harvesting and all that, afterwards we were like, you know, he should stay with Ian because, you know, you brought him, took him back and take care of him.

01:59:47.000 We thought it was a good idea for, you know, and plus managing the stem cells and stuff.

01:59:52.000 It's working out.

01:59:52.000 But, you know, but, you know, Alison saying she's like, we've got to get Bogus back.

01:59:57.000 He'll be back.

01:59:57.000 No, but I think it's good that you guys are getting the treatment and staying up on that, because if we switched, like, we don't know what you know, and if you started it, we want you to see it through.

02:00:07.000 It even gets a little, just Kara and I working together to feed him, there's two of us, that can get a little confusing.

02:00:12.000 It's really good to have, like, you know, one person, one person in charge.

02:00:15.000 Plus it's good for him, the chaos, I think, can stress cats.

02:00:18.000 Having, he knows who he's going home to, staying in one stable place must be comforting.

02:00:23.000 Animals are some of my favorite people.

02:00:25.000 They're amazing.

02:00:26.000 Right.

02:00:26.000 All right.

02:00:27.000 Truly, their personalities.

02:00:29.000 Absolutely.

02:00:30.000 We'll read two more here.

02:00:34.000 We'll read a couple more.

02:00:34.000 Dylan Selking says, Tim will never read my superchats.

02:00:38.000 Got him!

02:00:40.000 Miss Mary says, I'm not a paid bot, Tim.

02:00:42.000 Been a supporter for years.

02:00:43.000 I hope you realize what an insane take this is.

02:00:46.000 This is an insult to your viewers and supporters.

02:00:48.000 Well, I got nothing else to say.

02:00:50.000 I mean, look, Eliza- You just can't make anyone happy.

02:00:53.000 Are you joking?

02:00:54.000 Right, no, that's why it's like... I don't care, dude.

02:00:57.000 Look, man, I've been around this for so long.

02:01:00.000 I've said it before, I'll say it again.

02:01:01.000 It ebbs and flows.

02:01:02.000 There are people who will like you, then they'll hate you a year later.

02:01:05.000 They demand that you talk about things.

02:01:07.000 They will support you for standing up for what you believe in, then get mad when you don't believe what they want you to believe.

02:01:11.000 Literally don't care.

02:01:12.000 Miss Mary, like, by all means, if you don't like the content and you're not a supporter anymore, that's just the way things go and there's nothing... I'm not gonna lie to you.

02:01:20.000 I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh gee, well, let me say what I have to say so I can earn your $5.

02:01:23.000 Like, dude, if you don't want to give me $5, don't give me $5.

02:01:26.000 That's all I can say.

02:01:27.000 All right.

02:01:29.000 All right.

02:01:29.000 What else do we got?

02:01:30.000 I think there was one more.

02:01:32.000 Jared V says, Jeremy is live and trying to break down what you're saying.

02:01:35.000 What do you have to say about that?

02:01:37.000 You literally said you don't care about Eliza.

02:01:39.000 So what else is there to say?

02:01:40.000 It's a really, really good point.

02:01:41.000 Eliza is an irrelevant figure who's trying to be famous and y'all are making her famous.

02:01:45.000 She's not in Congress.

02:01:46.000 She doesn't know anybody.

02:01:47.000 She's not she's I guess she's talked with like Jack Dorsey in the past, but she is just like it's remarkable to me when Jeremy Hambly goes on his show and says something like Tim won't address the Jack Murphy stuff and it's like.

02:02:02.000 Interesting.

02:02:04.000 I wonder if anybody who is paying attention to a Chinese balloon carrying potential explosives of the United States is concerned about what some video some guy produced.

02:02:12.000 So if you're interested in interpersonal drama and e-girl celebrity stuff, TimCast is not the channel for you.

02:02:21.000 And if that's the case, then I don't want your money!

02:02:25.000 Dude, it's remarkable that people are like, Tim, if you don't address e-girl drama, I'm going to cancel. 0.99

02:02:30.000 I'm like, okay, we'll cancel, I guess.

02:02:32.000 I don't know.

02:02:32.000 You know what we're going to do this week?

02:02:35.000 We are going to be potentially talking with some members of Congress, because what I'm concerned about is, will people have enough money to pay their bills?

02:02:46.000 Will fuel prices be too high?

02:02:48.000 Is China preparing for an attack on Taiwan?

02:02:51.000 What I don't care about is, did e-girl lie to get famous? 0.98

02:02:55.000 There's an Abraham Lincoln quote I was gonna interject.

02:02:58.000 I was gonna say, like, you're allowed to care about that, that's fine.

02:03:01.000 But don't be surprised that I don't.

02:03:03.000 And don't care about it, and don't want to talk about it, and that's just it.

02:03:07.000 The Abe Lincoln quote that I imagine everyone knows, so I didn't bring it up, but I guess they don't, is that you can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all the time.

02:03:18.000 And then he freed the slaves.

02:03:20.000 He said he wouldn't know.

02:03:22.000 Well, that's my story.

02:03:23.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do like it, become a member at TimCast.com because apparently there's a whole bunch of people who would prefer that we talked about E-drama instead of everything we talked about.

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02:03:57.000 It'll be up in about an hour.

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02:04:02.000 I got some news, too.

02:04:03.000 Apparently we're starting to kill it on Facebook.

02:04:06.000 I never cared for Facebook.

02:04:07.000 Let's get Zuckerberg in!

02:04:09.000 Let's make Facebook cool again!

02:04:12.000 We've been posting everything to Facebook, we just basically ignored it, and actually it's like really big now.

02:04:16.000 We're getting a ton of traffic, and I'm really surprised to see like millions and millions.

02:04:19.000 And so I'm kind of like, okay, maybe we should have used Facebook from the get-go, so thank you everybody watching on Facebook.

02:04:24.000 Bring back Myspace now.

02:04:25.000 Yeah, Myspace.

02:04:26.000 You can follow me personally at Timcast.

02:04:28.000 John, do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:31.000 Redneck Riviera, baby. 0.61

02:04:32.000 My whiskey's doing great.

02:04:33.000 10,000 plus stores.

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02:04:42.000 Without you guys and gals, we don't get to have shows like this. 1.00

02:04:45.000 We don't get to have anything, matter of fact.

02:04:47.000 So God bless each and every one of you, and thanks for having me back on your show, brother.

02:04:51.000 I appreciate it.

02:04:52.000 Right on.

02:04:53.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

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02:05:04.000 I can't remember anything right now.

02:05:06.000 At my... I'm so sorry.

02:05:08.000 Hannah B. Okay, you can follow me.

02:05:10.000 I'm gonna just talk to you off the camera.

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02:05:18.000 I was thinking about what I was going to say.

02:05:19.000 Maybe that's why you got distracted.

02:05:21.000 I was looking at you, but not thinking about what you said.

02:05:23.000 I've heard my intros are not long enough, and I'm not prepared to make my outros longer, I guess.

02:05:27.000 That one was great.

02:05:28.000 John, always a pleasure.

02:05:29.000 Awesome to see you, man.

02:05:30.000 Yes, sir.

02:05:31.000 Good seeing you as well.

02:05:31.000 I want to give a special shout out to Jeremy Hambly, if you're listening, buddy.

02:05:34.000 I love you, man.

02:05:36.000 You've got a great brain, and I like it when you talk about the real stuff, dude. 0.75

02:05:39.000 You really have a great perception, like you're able to see Shit when it hits the fan before it's hitting the fan and I need you just to stay focused in the greater culture scheme of like software and development and administration of social networking and things like that because you're really brilliant.

02:05:56.000 I hope to see you again soon man.

02:05:57.000 I love you.

02:05:58.000 Goodbye everyone.

02:05:59.000 See you later.

02:06:01.000 Yeah, we don't kowtow at TimCast.

02:06:03.000 That's all I got to say.

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02:06:05.000 See you guys later.

02:06:06.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com or not.

02:06:08.000 Maybe, maybe not.

02:06:12.000 Or maybe you'll sign up to see what it's all about.

02:06:14.000 Because you're like, man, everybody's commenting something about this TimCast membership.

02:06:18.000 You definitely got to check it out now because wait till you see what's happening behind the scenes.

02:06:22.000 We'll see you all over there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 07, 2023

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