Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Virginia REFUSES To Ban Child Sex Changes, Jeff Younger Joins To Discuss His Story

00:00:00.000 A lot of people were hoping that Glenn Youngkin was going to fix Virginia, but just because

00:00:27.000 the governor is a Republican doesn't mean that they can change the legislature.

00:00:31.000 And as long as there are Democrats in Virginia and a lot of influence, yeah, you're not gonna get everything you want.

00:00:35.000 So now we have this story.

00:00:37.000 The Virginia Senate has rejected three bills that would ban sex changes for minors.

00:00:42.000 And we're going to talk about that, plus a bunch of other stories pertaining to what's happening with kids in schools, with critical race theory, with gender theory, gender ideology, and things like that.

00:00:51.000 Because joining us today is a man who has a personal stake in this fight and personal experience.

00:00:57.000 We are joined by Jeff Younger.

00:00:59.000 Hey everybody.

00:01:00.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:01.000 Yeah, my name is Jeff Younger, my son is James, and my ex-wife has been trying to transition to a girl since he was two years old, and recently the Texas Supreme Court allowed my ex-wife to move my son to California to transition him.

00:01:14.000 And that's, is California a sanctuary for gender transition? 0.99

00:01:17.000 It's a sanctuary state.

00:01:18.000 It's Senate Bill 107.

00:01:21.000 So we are going to talk about that, plus a bunch of similar issues, because actually the post-millennial had a bunch, and Libby's hanging out with us today as well.

00:01:28.000 Hey, what's going on, everybody?

00:01:29.000 This is Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial.

00:01:31.000 Glad to be here.

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00:02:24.000 And we also got Ian Crossland hanging out.

00:02:25.000 What's up, everybody?

00:02:26.000 Happy to be here.

00:02:27.000 I'll be here.

00:02:28.000 Maybe we'll play it later on the show.

00:02:30.000 I see some deepfakes of my voice going around.

00:02:33.000 So a friend of mine sent me a deepfake voice generator.

00:02:38.000 It is the creepiest and scariest thing I've ever seen.

00:02:41.000 It took two seconds to upload a clip of Ian's voice, and we can make Ian say anything.

00:02:47.000 And they will.

00:02:48.000 Oh, they will.

00:02:49.000 Now here's the best part.

00:02:50.000 When I tried it on me, it didn't work.

00:02:53.000 Why not?

00:02:53.000 I have no idea, but I'm glad it didn't.

00:02:56.000 Really?

00:02:56.000 Yeah, it didn't work.

00:02:57.000 It just sounded bad?

00:02:58.000 It doesn't sound like me at all.

00:03:00.000 Wow.

00:03:00.000 It weirdly just doesn't sound like me.

00:03:02.000 And I'm like, okay, that's a good thing.

00:03:03.000 Maybe I got a weird voice and I talk like a weird person.

00:03:05.000 You're immune to the matrix.

00:03:07.000 Well, maybe there's something like most people talk a certain way.

00:03:10.000 So the AI takes a person's voice and applies it to like a standard set of like an algorithm that applies to most people and then generates it.

00:03:16.000 And for me, it just didn't really work.

00:03:18.000 Cool.

00:03:18.000 Maybe we can listen to those later.

00:03:20.000 We will, we will definitely play those.

00:03:21.000 We also got Serge pressing the buttons.

00:03:22.000 Yo, what's up everybody?

00:03:24.000 How you guys doing?

00:03:25.000 At Serge.com.

00:03:26.000 Let's get started with your story, actually, Jeff.

00:03:29.000 For those that don't know what's happening with you and your son, do you want to give us the 101?

00:03:35.000 Sure.

00:03:35.000 So, starting about two years old, my ex-wife decided to transition my son to a girl.

00:03:41.000 We were still married at the time, and I told her she couldn't do that.

00:03:44.000 She's a pediatrician, and she forced me out of my house, filed for divorce, and then began to really, in earnest, try to transition my son.

00:03:52.000 She began to present him to the world as a girl.

00:03:56.000 She changed his name without my consent, with no legal basis to do that.

00:04:01.000 My son eventually, at three years old, we're still heading towards divorce, tells me that Mommy says I'm a girl.

00:04:08.000 So I took the first iPhone video I'd ever taken.

00:04:11.000 And if you go on YouTube, you can find it.

00:04:13.000 Just search for Mommy Says I'm a Girl.

00:04:14.000 It went everywhere.

00:04:15.000 I'm an Orthodox Christian.

00:04:17.000 So it also went all over Eastern Europe, and Russian television got a hold of it.

00:04:22.000 They were all perplexed.

00:04:22.000 Like, they think of Texas as a Bible Belt.

00:04:25.000 How could it be?

00:04:25.000 How can this be happening in this religious part of the country?

00:04:29.000 So then we get to trial.

00:04:30.000 The psychology community turned completely against me.

00:04:33.000 All of them lied at trial.

00:04:35.000 So far, I've been able to prove all these psychologists have lied, so all their testimony has been thrown out.

00:04:39.000 What were they lying about?

00:04:40.000 Whether my son wants to be a girl or a boy.

00:04:43.000 In the initial psychological investigation, they tried to cover for my wife by saying she wasn't trying to transition my son.

00:04:51.000 And on that basis, that I had made a false accusation that she was trying to transition him gave me less than standard possession time with my son.

00:04:59.000 So then we go to another trial in 2019 after the school started transitioning my son behind my back. 0.83

00:05:05.000 So I take my son to school and in boys clothes they give him a dress, make him use the girl's restroom. 0.99

00:05:12.000 And it turns out there's a loophole in all the 50 states around psychology that allows psychologists to not inform parents.

00:05:20.000 Parents actually don't have a legal right to the medical and psychological records of their children.

00:05:24.000 I can explain that later.

00:05:26.000 So they used that law to transition my son without my consent, and I found out about it.

00:05:31.000 I filed grievances with the school district.

00:05:33.000 They said they did not violate my parental rights by transitioning my son without my consent.

00:05:38.000 So we wound up going to a 2019 trial in this little courthouse in Dallas, Texas, and the top experts in the world on transgender science from both sides showed up in this courtroom.

00:05:49.000 Only my experts testified because the depositions that I gave The experts on the other side were so devastating, they would never put them in front of a Texas jury.

00:05:58.000 I'll give you an example.

00:05:59.000 Johanna Olson-Kennedy, who runs the largest gender clinic in the United States, I directly asked her, how do you justify cutting healthy body parts off of children? 0.97

00:06:08.000 And she said, well, if they're causing psychological distress, they're not healthy body parts, so we cut them off.

00:06:16.000 I asked, how many total mastectomies have you referred out for pubescent girls? 1.00

00:06:21.000 And she said, over 250.

00:06:23.000 So they didn't want to put that in front.

00:06:24.000 How many hands and feet did they chop off of body dysmorphic individuals? 0.98

00:06:27.000 Body dysmorphic people, yeah, exactly.

00:06:29.000 Well, Joanna Olson Kennedy also said that if girls end up wanting to have their breasts back, they can just get fake ones when they grow up. 1.00

00:06:38.000 Yep, she did.

00:06:40.000 But let's go back to the beginning.

00:06:41.000 I mean, how does this begin?

00:06:43.000 How did your wife decide that your son, in her mind, why is she saying that your son is actually trans?

00:06:49.000 Well, I first noticed it when she would put him into timeouts and she'd say things like, you know, don't be a boy, the monsters only eat boys and weird stuff like this.

00:06:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:58.000 What?

00:06:59.000 Oh, yes.

00:06:59.000 Yes.

00:07:00.000 But why is she doing it? 0.77

00:07:01.000 But she testified in court to this.

00:07:04.000 This is what she's testified.

00:07:05.000 I don't believe this answer, but I'm going to tell you what she swore to in front of the judge at the 2019 trial.

00:07:11.000 She said, first, James asked for a girl's meal in a McDonald's Happy Meal.

00:07:15.000 The girl's toy in a McDonald's Happy Meal.

00:07:18.000 Second, a few days later, he asked for a silver purse at Target that had a multicolored unicorn on it.

00:07:24.000 And James is a painter.

00:07:25.000 He's still a painter.

00:07:27.000 And so he wanted this purse.

00:07:29.000 And at that point, she thought he might be a girl.

00:07:31.000 That's what she testified to.

00:07:32.000 Because he liked unicorns?

00:07:33.000 I don't believe any of these answers.

00:07:34.000 Boys don't like unicorns?

00:07:35.000 I mean, I used to pretend I was Wonder Woman.

00:07:35.000 Yeah.

00:07:37.000 I would dance around in my backyard swinging the invisible whip because I wanted to be an actor, because I'm creative.

00:07:43.000 And my parents had freaked out and been like, maybe that means... No, you're creative.

00:07:46.000 Yes, you can pretend to be anybody.

00:07:47.000 Anything you want to be.

00:07:48.000 Yes, you can.

00:07:49.000 And children will conform themselves to their parents' wishes in all sorts of ways.

00:07:53.000 And my son has told court-appointed psychologists, four of them, that the reason that he... Here's the other fact that's really important for you and your audience to know.

00:08:03.000 My son only presents as a girl with his mom. 0.52

00:08:06.000 He's never presented as a girl with me or anywhere else at church or anywhere.

00:08:10.000 It's only when he's with his mom that he does this.

00:08:12.000 So he's just told them straight up, Mommy doesn't love me if I'm not a girl.

00:08:16.000 He's told them that over and over again.

00:08:17.000 Told the judge that?

00:08:18.000 Told the court-appointed psychologists.

00:08:21.000 Um, what happened?

00:08:23.000 They all recommended that he be transitioned to a girl.

00:08:26.000 All of them.

00:08:28.000 Mommy doesn't love me if I'm not a girl?

00:08:30.000 This is what he said?

00:08:31.000 Yes.

00:08:32.000 That's like, that implicates the mother.

00:08:34.000 I know.

00:08:35.000 What precipitated me losing my sons, all contact with my sons, last year in July?

00:08:42.000 Was my son just straight up told his counselor that he doesn't want to be a girl, he's getting embarrassed wearing dresses at school.

00:08:50.000 She didn't even acknowledge that he said it.

00:08:53.000 So he had an Apple watch and he recorded himself.

00:08:56.000 He said, I'm going to record telling you this.

00:08:58.000 Your son did?

00:08:59.000 Yes.

00:09:00.000 And she totally freaked out, threw him out of the office and initiated a CPS investigation against me and told the court that I had forced him to say that.

00:09:10.000 How old is your son now?

00:09:11.000 Ten.

00:09:12.000 Ten.

00:09:13.000 He was nine when he said that.

00:09:15.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 Did you force him to do it?

00:09:16.000 No.

00:09:17.000 He did ask me if he could record.

00:09:17.000 No.

00:09:20.000 And I said, Texas is a one-party recording state, but our family's not sneaky.

00:09:24.000 So if you're going to record people, you should tell them that you're recording them.

00:09:27.000 So just tell her that you're going to record her.

00:09:29.000 So where is the story currently at now?

00:09:33.000 Your ex-wife took him to California?

00:09:35.000 The judge allowed her to move to California.

00:09:39.000 She doesn't have to tell me where my sons are.

00:09:41.000 So all I know is that they're in L.A.

00:09:43.000 County.

00:09:44.000 The only way for me to see my sons is to arrange for supervised visits in L.A.

00:09:48.000 County.

00:09:50.000 Okay.

00:09:51.000 And it has to be someone that's acceptable to the court.

00:09:54.000 So the judge will be able to pick who that is.

00:09:56.000 No matter who I pick, they won't let me do it.

00:09:59.000 She doesn't have to tell me any medical procedures that she's doing. 0.57

00:10:02.000 She doesn't have to tell me where they go to school.

00:10:04.000 I'm actually prohibited from even knowing those things.

00:10:07.000 Wow.

00:10:08.000 Yeah.

00:10:09.000 So I haven't seen him in about a year and six months now.

00:10:11.000 Why both kids?

00:10:12.000 So two kids, you said one's 10 and then one is- They're both 10.

00:10:15.000 They're twins.

00:10:16.000 Yep.

00:10:17.000 And they're not identical.

00:10:18.000 And so she's saying one is and one is not trans?

00:10:21.000 And this is something that she did with her daughters.

00:10:21.000 Yeah.

00:10:24.000 So if you want to know when I realized I was in trouble, It was during her pregnancy. 0.60

00:10:31.000 We made a decision to have children.

00:10:34.000 We're about two and a half years into the marriage and I discover everything she told me about her daughters was a lie.

00:10:39.000 So she had told me that her daughters were adopted.

00:10:44.000 Well, her younger daughter was adopted from her brother, who's a three-time convicted felon in California, had to flee the state because if he gets convicted again he'll get life, who exposed this child to methamphetamine in the womb and when she was a newborn.

00:11:00.000 I had all these developmental problems, so I didn't know that.

00:11:00.000 Why not?

00:11:02.000 I probably would have still married Anne knowing that, right?

00:11:08.000 Because it's good to adopt orphans like that.

00:11:10.000 I'm all for that.

00:11:11.000 But her other daughter was from a sperm donor, and I would not have married her had I known

00:11:14.000 that.

00:11:15.000 Why not?

00:11:16.000 Why not?

00:11:17.000 Well, it was, it would be like, she wants to have kids without a man, without a father. 1.00

00:11:24.000 Interesting.

00:11:25.000 Yeah.

00:11:26.000 And both of the girls, I didn't know this either, Anne's sister is a lesbian, and both of these girls had been raised only around women.

00:11:34.000 I remember going out and running foot races with the girls, because she basically abandoned her girls to me, so I'm the one who had to take them to school, do all their homework.

00:11:44.000 You know, everything, all the chores in the house.

00:11:46.000 She worked 80 hours a week at her practice, right?

00:11:49.000 And so I got these girls that I had to raise.

00:11:52.000 So we'd go out and run foot races and stuff like that, and they just couldn't believe that I was winning.

00:11:56.000 Like, they didn't know, like, boys can run faster than girls generally.

00:11:59.000 Wow.

00:12:00.000 They just had not been around any men.

00:12:03.000 And Anne thought that was actually very funny that they were learning that and didn't know that.

00:12:07.000 But they were 10 years old and just discovering that for the first time.

00:12:10.000 Sounds a lot like that book that we bring up periodically.

00:12:13.000 The one that's in front of you.

00:12:14.000 Yeah.

00:12:14.000 Genderqueer.

00:12:15.000 Yeah.

00:12:16.000 Have you read that one?

00:12:17.000 I have not read it.

00:12:19.000 I bought a copy of that and read it myself.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, it's a story of how this woman, she says she's non-binary, but it's an abuse story.

00:12:26.000 She couldn't read until she was 12.

00:12:28.000 She had to use old crusted pads with blood flaking off, and she smelled so bad because of it, the counselor called her in and said, you have a hygiene problem. 0.73

00:12:37.000 So it's no wonder she ends up distressed.

00:12:41.000 Well, and the book ends, like, the most triumphant part of the book is when she's deciding that she's going to come out to her middle school class and, like, tell all of her students that she's non-binary.

00:12:52.000 Which is, like, why does anyone need to do that?

00:12:55.000 Why do these people want to be around children so much?

00:12:59.000 Odd.

00:12:59.000 It's odd and sort of distressing, yeah.

00:13:02.000 I remember when the story first broke about the court case and the videos with your son and all that stuff.

00:13:08.000 But your son's 10 now.

00:13:09.000 I mean, 10-year-olds have a decent amount of lucidity.

00:13:12.000 So is he resisting?

00:13:14.000 Is he rejecting this?

00:13:15.000 Is he complaining about it?

00:13:16.000 Well, remember, the last time I saw him was when he resisted.

00:13:19.000 And they took him away from me permanently and gave me supervised visitation.

00:13:22.000 I get less visitation than convicted pedophiles in Texas.

00:13:25.000 You know what's crazy, too, though, is early on in the story, I remember reading in the Federalist, there was a woman who was the mom of some friends of your son, who said that when he was over at her house, he wanted to wear boy clothes, and she gave him boy clothes, and he just wanted to do rough-and-tumble boy things.

00:13:43.000 That's his normal state.

00:13:44.000 And her testimony, she was not allowed to testify to that in court.

00:13:47.000 No, she wasn't.

00:13:48.000 They wouldn't let her speak her piece.

00:13:50.000 Why would they not?

00:13:52.000 I don't know why they wouldn't let her do it, but they wouldn't accept her.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, so a lot of people don't understand how family courts work and what the incentives are in family courts.

00:14:02.000 People think of them as, you know, an objective judge and this sort of thing.

00:14:07.000 But the way that family courts are managed is they prevent you from presenting contrary evidence.

00:14:12.000 That's why I've never been allowed to select a psychologist for my son.

00:14:16.000 The courts will never allow me to do that.

00:14:18.000 The courts pick the psychologist who will then present the evidence to the court, right?

00:14:23.000 Now fortunately, I've been able to record them, I've been able to gather evidence and actually prove that they perjured themselves, so they've had to throw out all this evidence.

00:14:33.000 But it's taken a lot of work and it's cost me a lot of money to do that, right?

00:14:37.000 And most people can't do that.

00:14:38.000 So family courts basically work off of fabricated evidence.

00:14:41.000 That's number one.

00:14:42.000 Number two, there's really no appeal from family courts.

00:14:46.000 So family courts, unlike normal like civil courts or criminal courts, there's almost no appellate options out of a family court.

00:14:53.000 So the judges operate with no oversight and just do whatever they want.

00:14:57.000 And third, and this is the big one, There are massive federal programs that were instituted in the late 1970s that pay states trillions of dollars to tear families apart.

00:15:10.000 So it's so innocuous when I tell you, be like, this is a great program.

00:15:14.000 But like in Texas, we get 66 cents on the dollar put into the Texas Treasury for every dollar of child support that's paid.

00:15:22.000 Right?

00:15:23.000 So the state is now highly incentivized to issue the maximum amount of child support.

00:15:27.000 That's why almost all divorces got 50-50 prior to the 1980s. 0.98

00:15:34.000 And there was this skyrocketing of divorces where one parent loses custody.

00:15:38.000 And that was to maximize Title IV-D reimbursements to the states.

00:15:42.000 In Texas, it's half a billion dollars to the Texas budget.

00:15:47.000 If the state is profiting off of child support?

00:15:51.000 Correct.

00:15:51.000 And in most states, the judicial retirement fund is funded from this money.

00:15:56.000 So the more child support that's issued from the family courts, the larger the judicial retirement.

00:16:02.000 And it's a massive program.

00:16:04.000 It's the size of the largest defense programs.

00:16:06.000 So the incentives are absolutely huge.

00:16:09.000 To get people to pay child support?

00:16:11.000 Correct, correct.

00:16:12.000 Even married people, to get them to break up and then have to pay each other child support?

00:16:15.000 Absolutely, absolutely, yeah.

00:16:17.000 So, because you would think the best child support would just be 50-50 custody and let people raise their kids.

00:16:22.000 The best child support is to raise your own kid.

00:16:24.000 That's the best child support.

00:16:25.000 But they don't do that.

00:16:26.000 Most states actually have laws prohibiting the courts from doing that.

00:16:30.000 Texas has a family code in which it's assumed to be in the child's best interest that one parent get 24% of the time.

00:16:38.000 And the reason 24% was chosen, precisely, is it maximizes Title IV-D reimbursement to the state at 24%.

00:16:46.000 How does the maximization function come out at 24%?

00:16:49.000 So it has to do with how the state calculates child support.

00:16:52.000 So Texas has one of the worst child support systems in the state.

00:16:55.000 It doesn't take into account the income of both parents and it doesn't take into account the amount of time you spend with the child.

00:17:02.000 So there are fathers out there with 49% of the time that are paying maximal child support still.

00:17:07.000 Wow.

00:17:08.000 But again, that maximizes the reimbursement to the state.

00:17:10.000 I have a friend of mine, him and his wife came to an agreement to do 50-50 parenting, no child support, because he watches the kids a lot while she travels for her work.

00:17:19.000 And so it all worked out and they decided it's just better to do it this way.

00:17:22.000 The state of Texas sent an attorney.

00:17:24.000 To argue in the case that they should not be allowed to do 50-50 custody.

00:17:28.000 I read a story about some celebrity guy who had to pay massive child support, and then he and the wife both went to the court together as friends and said, hey, he's no longer working and doesn't have this money anymore, so we both agree it should be lower, and the court said no.

00:17:42.000 They won't do it.

00:17:43.000 Because they get a cut.

00:17:44.000 They get a huge kickback, yeah.

00:17:46.000 Wow.

00:17:46.000 Now there's an even more evil program that's related to this Title IV-E.

00:17:50.000 Title IV-E pays the states to adopt out orphans.

00:17:54.000 What do you mean adopt out orphans?

00:17:55.000 So whenever CPS takes a child from someone and then adopts them into a good family, they get Title IV-E reimbursement funds.

00:18:03.000 And it's a lot of money.

00:18:04.000 It's like $50,000 per child.

00:18:05.000 The state gets that money?

00:18:06.000 Yes, it goes into the state budget.

00:18:08.000 And where does it come from?

00:18:09.000 Federal government.

00:18:09.000 Interesting.

00:18:10.000 Yep.

00:18:11.000 So what will happen in Texas is some satellite office of CPS will get low on budget.

00:18:17.000 And they'll go and find a white baby, under two years old, no medical problems, from working-class parents who can't afford a lawyer, and then they take the child and adopt it out, and then they get $50,000 for their budget.

00:18:28.000 That's how they do it.

00:18:30.000 Wow.

00:18:30.000 There's massive incentives to split up families in this country, and that's why you've had the explosion of divorce and rancor.

00:18:38.000 So now you have the majority of children in America are being raised in fatherless homes.

00:18:43.000 We passed 50%.

00:18:44.000 It sure does seem like there is a system in place, whether intentional or not, to reduce the population.

00:18:52.000 Unquestionably.

00:18:55.000 You talk about this, you call it a conspiracy theorist, right?

00:18:59.000 But they're blatant about it.

00:19:00.000 They're absolutely blatant about it.

00:19:02.000 But I think the agenda is not only population reduction, But also to reduce the political power of the middle class. 0.82

00:19:09.000 Right?

00:19:09.000 You've been to Europe.

00:19:10.000 Most of you have been to Europe.

00:19:12.000 I've been to Asia a lot as well.

00:19:14.000 Nobody cares about free speech there.

00:19:16.000 Nobody cares about gun rights there. 0.55

00:19:18.000 There's one place in the world where people care about free speech and gun rights, and that's the American middle class. 0.58

00:19:24.000 They have to disempower the American middle class to get rid of these things. 0.99

00:19:28.000 And so the best way to do that is to take fathers out of their homes.

00:19:31.000 Yeah, well that's where you start breaking society down.

00:19:33.000 That's right.

00:19:34.000 Destroy the family unit. 100%. 0.97

00:19:36.000 I mean, there's also definitely marriage disincentives.

00:19:39.000 I blame Reagan.

00:19:41.000 We were talking about no-fault divorce.

00:19:43.000 But there's also tax breaks for you if you're a single parent.

00:19:48.000 And then if you're married, you don't get those tax breaks.

00:19:51.000 And it's a lot easier to get on to state-sponsored health insurance programs unless there's two of you.

00:19:58.000 If you're married, it's harder to get on them because you automatically make a little bit more money.

00:20:02.000 But if you're single, you can.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:05.000 You can't get on the state plan.

00:20:07.000 There was something about this, I learned earlier, that in Texas, I believe it was you need both parents to consent to some sort of transgender surgery for a child, but then your wife or your ex-wife took the kid out of the state in order to bypass Texas state law. 0.57

00:20:24.000 So at that point, you would think Texas would be like, hey, hell no, that we're going to the federal government.

00:20:29.000 Come on, step in.

00:20:29.000 You can't just Leave our state and then break our law against the will of one of our state's citizens.

00:20:35.000 I would think that that would be the case.

00:20:37.000 Yes.

00:20:38.000 So, my case has been carefully reverse-engineered by leftist lawyers, it's very clear, to prevent me from taking a federal course of action.

00:20:50.000 What they did was, since my judge issued an order allowing her to move to California, it's very difficult for me to go into federal court and challenge a local judge's ruling.

00:21:01.000 There's something called the domestic relations exception in federal court.

00:21:05.000 A lot of people don't know this.

00:21:07.000 But the federal court just has a rule.

00:21:09.000 They don't take family court cases.

00:21:11.000 They just don't take them.

00:21:13.000 Like I told you, there's no appeal out of family court.

00:21:15.000 You're doomed.

00:21:16.000 Whatever the judge says goes.

00:21:18.000 And federal courts won't take them. 0.72

00:21:19.000 There's a very narrow exception to that on civil rights grounds, which I might be able to pull off. 0.82

00:21:24.000 What would that be?

00:21:26.000 So there's a really good US Supreme Court decision called Troxel.

00:21:32.000 And Troxel establishes 14th Amendment protections for parenting your children, and all of my judge's rulings violate Troxel.

00:21:40.000 So I'd have to get into a federal court, and the big challenge in federal court is it's very easy to dismiss federal cases.

00:21:49.000 Under Rule 12 of Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

00:21:52.000 So I'd have to really build an airtight case that would survive a dismissal challenge.

00:21:56.000 I'm thinking about that right now.

00:21:58.000 A violation of the 14th Amendment?

00:21:59.000 That's right, yeah.

00:22:01.000 And what's interesting is in my 2019 trial that I won, I got 50-50 custody, no child support, and I got 50-50 on all the conservator rights.

00:22:11.000 So she couldn't do any medical procedures without my permission. 1.00

00:22:14.000 I think I remember hearing about that in the news.

00:22:16.000 But then how did she end up getting to move to California?

00:22:18.000 Here's how it worked.

00:22:19.000 So she retained the most powerful law firm in the state of Texas, a family law firm named Kunz Fuller.

00:22:25.000 They're also the largest donor to political campaigns.

00:22:28.000 So Texas has a loophole that you can buy judges, essentially.

00:22:33.000 As long as you donate to political campaigns.

00:22:35.000 Political activity is protected, and law firms cannot be recused from representing in a court even if they gave them a lot of money.

00:22:42.000 So they gave my current judge over $30,000.

00:22:45.000 Okay?

00:22:48.000 $30,000.

00:22:49.000 So in a transparently corrupt recusal proceeding, they bought a judge emeritus to hear a recusal hearing, and all the judge where I won the trial, her name, it's a 255th District Court.

00:23:01.000 All she did, she went onto Facebook on the official page of the court and said, everyone in my court got a fair trial.

00:23:09.000 Which judges are allowed to say things like that.

00:23:10.000 They're allowed to assure the public that they're performing their public duty.

00:23:13.000 That's not recusable.

00:23:15.000 But on that basis they recused her, and then I wind up in this other court that this law firm gave $30,000 to, and this judge then systematically stripped me of all my parental rights using temporary orders.

00:23:28.000 Which is not legal in Texas, but I have no really course of appeal.

00:23:32.000 In Texas, you actually cannot appeal family court decisions.

00:23:35.000 You can only mandamus them.

00:23:36.000 You can't actually appeal them.

00:23:38.000 So using these temporary rulings, she's... Systematically. 0.95

00:23:42.000 And what's interesting... But then she moves to California as a temporary right? 0.98

00:23:47.000 Yeah, and so they want to go to final trial now and establish that as a permanent right.

00:23:52.000 That's the idea.

00:23:53.000 Well, and the thing with California, too, is California has decided that they have no obligation to follow the laws of any other state.

00:23:58.000 That's correct.

00:24:02.000 By some miracle, you ended up having a Texas court say that your sons should come back from California.

00:24:08.000 California would refuse on the basis of their own law.

00:24:11.000 They won't send them back.

00:24:14.000 They are obligated by law to give my son gender-affirming health care.

00:24:19.000 They have to give it to him.

00:24:22.000 And a judge can consent without either parent consenting.

00:24:27.000 That's a Scott Wiener.

00:24:28.000 Yep.

00:24:29.000 State Senator Scott Wiener.

00:24:30.000 Do you know if they've begun any medical procedures?

00:24:33.000 No, because I don't get any information.

00:24:33.000 Chemical or?

00:24:36.000 So she's been there since end of December and I have no information on my son at this point.

00:24:41.000 This is a federal, we need the federal government to step in.

00:24:44.000 The only issue with the federal government stepping in is you have the President of the United States who is in favor of child sex changes.

00:24:51.000 And the entire Health and Human Services Department.

00:24:54.000 And the Surgeon General.

00:24:55.000 Let me pull up this article right here.

00:24:57.000 We have this article from the Postmillennial.

00:24:59.000 Biden's Surgeon General warns that 13-year-olds shouldn't use social media because they are still developing their identity.

00:25:06.000 Chris Elson wrote, So I think this shows the hypocrisy.

00:25:09.000 is too young for children to be on social media platforms because kids are still developing

00:25:09.000 Yes, it does.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, clearly.

00:25:13.000 their identity, what about puberty blockers, Vivek? 0.68

00:25:15.000 So I think this shows the hypocrisy. 0.51

00:25:17.000 Yes, it does.

00:25:19.000 Yeah, clearly.

00:25:21.000 Really fully. 0.74

00:25:22.000 Just straight out hypocrisy.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, so you have Vivek Murthy saying that children should not be on social media because they're still developing their identities, but he would also tell you that girls who are minors should be able to get abortions without parental consent and also that children should be able to determine their own gender identity.

00:25:41.000 So I'm sure, Jeff, you're familiar with the story of John Money?

00:25:45.000 Oh yes, absolutely.

00:25:48.000 Do you have concerns?

00:25:49.000 I mean, obviously you have concerns for your children over this.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, I mean, the way I put it to the jury when I was put on the stand was very simple.

00:25:57.000 I said, you know, if my sons go with me, they have a chance at a normal life.

00:26:02.000 If they go with her, they have no chance at a normal life and a good chance of living a life of despair.

00:26:09.000 And that's the choice, that's the Hobson's choice that we're giving all of these children, right?

00:26:15.000 And they're so obsessed with puberty blockers because the cure for gender dysphoria is called puberty.

00:26:22.000 Puberty is the cure for gender dysphoria. 0.93

00:26:25.000 Puberty is the process by which you come to identify with the social, psychological, and physical aspects of your sex.

00:26:34.000 That's what puberty actually is.

00:26:36.000 And so they desperately have to block puberty to maintain the gender dysphoria.

00:26:41.000 Over 90% of these kids, if you just don't do anything, just grow into normal adults.

00:26:45.000 A small proportion of them become gay in line with the normal population.

00:26:53.000 And then a small percentage of them continue to have problems.

00:26:56.000 This feels like, at least to a certain degree, some of this is experimentation.

00:27:00.000 Like, we know from the story of John Money and what he did to, what was it, Brian and David were their names?

00:27:06.000 Brian and David.

00:27:08.000 They both ended up killing themselves in different ways, and it's a horror story.

00:27:12.000 Now, that story is particularly horrifying because John Money was forcing them to simulate adult activities on each other when they were very young children.

00:27:21.000 So for those that aren't familiar with the story, I think most people are, but if you're not, basically you had twins, I think they're identical twins, were they?

00:27:27.000 They were identical.

00:27:28.000 Yeah, and there was a botched circumcision, so John Money convinced the parents, you know, we'll raise one as a girl and one as a boy, and then I think almost immediately, it was, was Brian or was it, it was David.

00:27:40.000 David.

00:27:41.000 David was the one who was made to live as a girl. 1.00

00:27:44.000 David knew that he was actually male.

00:27:46.000 Yes.

00:27:46.000 The whole time, and it caused great distress, so That's my fear.

00:27:52.000 In that thinking, though, there is the argument made by the left that that shows gender identity is inherent in the individual and that if a child is born male but has a female identity or wants to identify socially as a female and you don't do it, you'll end up with that situation.

00:28:09.000 Well, I have a kind of an unusual take for someone on the right.

00:28:12.000 I'm definitely on the right.

00:28:14.000 And that I do think gender is, in many ways, socially constructed.

00:28:19.000 And this always freaks people out, right?

00:28:20.000 Like, well, how can you be a right winger?

00:28:22.000 I believe that.

00:28:23.000 Well, the social characteristics that we have built up around the biological sexes.

00:28:27.000 Correct, yeah.

00:28:28.000 And, in other words, you're born male, but you have to learn to be a man.

00:28:33.000 Your father teaches you how to be a man.

00:28:34.000 You follow in the footsteps of your forefathers and you learn how to be a man to assume your duties and rights and responsibilities as a man in your society.

00:28:42.000 And that has to be taught to you, right?

00:28:44.000 That kind of thing has to be taught to you.

00:28:46.000 But like everything else, the left wants to make it either or in these very strange ways.

00:28:51.000 You know, sure, there is a genetic component probably to gender identity. 0.99

00:28:55.000 There's a genetic component to all human behaviors, right?

00:29:00.000 It comes up a lot in the context of being gay. 0.53

00:29:02.000 People say, well, people are born gay.

00:29:04.000 They're not born gay.

00:29:05.000 There is a genetic component to being gay. 0.99

00:29:08.000 They know exactly what the genetic contribution is, because billions of dollars have been spent on it.

00:29:12.000 It's approximately equal to your food preferences.

00:29:16.000 And you're totally in control of what you eat.

00:29:19.000 So just because something has a genetic component doesn't mean it's outside of your volition.

00:29:22.000 Yeah, your genetics can be altered by your environment.

00:29:24.000 They can be turned on and off.

00:29:26.000 I think this is phthalates and PCBs.

00:29:29.000 I've had the conversation with a lot of conservatives.

00:29:32.000 You're bringing up good stuff.

00:29:34.000 We've had people on, I think even James Lindsay.

00:29:37.000 And I've talked to a lot of these people who say there's no such thing as trans kids, and I say, I disagree with that.

00:29:41.000 I think we've already seen the stories.

00:29:44.000 There was a birth control that women were taking that resulted in their female babies masculinizing in the womb, and then invariably, as they tracked them, they grew up to become lesbians. 0.96

00:29:56.000 And they're like, hey, we just realized that this birth control was actually doing this to the babies in the womb.

00:30:01.000 Yes.

00:30:01.000 In the event the woman got pregnant, despite being on birth control, they had masculinized female babies.

00:30:07.000 And so you take a look at the plastics.

00:30:08.000 This is why we've been using glass bottles for all our work.

00:30:11.000 We do have plastic bottles because some people just don't care, but I prefer to put everything in glass.

00:30:15.000 Because you have phthalates and PCBs, and that's just a couple of the endocrine disruptors that we've got research on.

00:30:21.000 So my hypothesis on this is, you know, you had Bill Maher who said, Why are we seeing so many trans kids? 0.88

00:30:28.000 You've got so many in California but not in Ohio, so either, what did he say, either there's something wrong between the states or we're creating them or something to that effect.

00:30:35.000 And I'm wondering if the reason we're seeing a massive spike in this is, I do think there's a social component, because we've actually seen that in research, but I think another component of this may be that We've expanded the use of plastics.

00:30:51.000 Plastic is over everything.

00:30:52.000 So, phthalates and PCBs in all of our food.

00:30:52.000 It is.

00:30:56.000 Then, you've also had these stories about birth control getting in the water supply.

00:31:00.000 Can't be filtered out, and then people are drinking it.

00:31:03.000 I think we are living in piles of our own filth in cities, which is making dirty water full of endocrine disruptors of any kind, and you're going to end up with people who are in the womb developing, and their brains are forming, and either through some kind of hormonal imbalance, some kind of chemical alteration through phthalates, a baby is born, and they have an inverted gender identity that doesn't match their body. 0.98

00:31:30.000 You can't discount the social contagion, though.

00:31:32.000 I mean, we're seeing like a 4,000% increase in girls who are deciding that they are actually boys.

00:31:40.000 We're seeing clusters of girls all transitioning together.

00:31:43.000 And there are a lot of stories about people who have taken their children away from the school environments and their kids immediately detransition.

00:31:50.000 And it's also very trendy in some places.

00:31:52.000 Where my son had been going to school in New York City, trans was very trendy and some of his friends were coming in, like one day they were furries and the next day they were lesbians and then they were actually trans and then somebody else was trans because his girlfriend was trans and she was a lesbian now and like it would be a whole, it was a whole thing.

00:32:09.000 It was like a constant, every day there were like different identities going around and it was very trendy to be part of the whole identity thing.

00:32:17.000 It's really empowering to get people to believe you're someone you're not.

00:32:20.000 That's part of why I became an actor.

00:32:21.000 It's incredibly empowering.

00:32:23.000 They love it.

00:32:24.000 I love it.

00:32:25.000 And then you get paid for it.

00:32:26.000 But then these kids, I think they just want that empowerment.

00:32:28.000 Part of it, too, though, is we're talking about puberty, right?

00:32:31.000 So, Jeff, you brought this up.

00:32:32.000 We were talking about puberty.

00:32:33.000 What is puberty?

00:32:34.000 Puberty is the process by which it's, you know, development.

00:32:37.000 It's the process by which a child becomes an adult.

00:32:40.000 It's a coming-of-age process, right?

00:32:42.000 We've taken away so many of the coming-of-age rituals.

00:32:46.000 We've killed our gods, so, you know, we don't have coming-of-age rituals in our religion anymore at this point in the United States.

00:32:52.000 That's not common.

00:32:54.000 We don't have a lot of confirmations anymore, bat mitzvahs or anything like this.

00:32:58.000 So what we have for our main coming-of-age ritual in our country right now is coming out.

00:33:04.000 You can come out as something.

00:33:05.000 That's like the only American… It's the American coming-of-age Right, it's our rite of passage, right?

00:33:12.000 You come out as part of your rite of passage.

00:33:14.000 I thought it was getting your driver's license.

00:33:15.000 No, it used to be getting your driver's license, but now that's 16, it's 18.

00:33:19.000 Isn't it like Quinceañera thing?

00:33:21.000 Quinceañera, yeah, that's like a... In Mexico, right?

00:33:24.000 Yeah, in Mexico, that kind of thing.

00:33:26.000 Is there a male version of that?

00:33:27.000 I don't know what they do down there.

00:33:28.000 Well, you know, you do like a 16th birthday party, but it's not the same kind of thing.

00:33:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:33.000 Like this is our main rite of passage.

00:33:35.000 It used to be, I remember when I was a kid and the whole thing, like everybody wanted to lose their virginity as quickly as possible.

00:33:41.000 But that's very different from like a bar mitzvah.

00:33:43.000 Yeah, it's very different.

00:33:43.000 Right.

00:33:44.000 But now you can go through a rite of passage of coming out.

00:33:49.000 And what are the things you get to do?

00:33:51.000 You get to change your name.

00:33:52.000 You get to start choosing your own clothes.

00:33:54.000 You get to dictate how other people are going to treat you.

00:33:58.000 You're going to call me by this name.

00:34:00.000 You're going to refer to me even when I'm not there with these very specific phrases.

00:34:05.000 It feels like a lot of RPG video games, your character will start off as like training mode or whatever.

00:34:12.000 So actually this reminds me of MapleStory, which I don't know if it exists anymore.

00:34:16.000 But your character starts in like levels 1 through 10.

00:34:18.000 You have no specialty.

00:34:20.000 And then once you get to level 10, you get to choose your class.

00:34:22.000 Like, what are you?

00:34:23.000 What are you going to be?

00:34:25.000 It feels very much like what they're trying to do.

00:34:26.000 Well, there's one thing. 0.98

00:34:28.000 I think video games do play into the social contagion because a lot of boys play girl characters in FPS shooters mainly because you just don't want to look at a guy's ass when you go to third person. 0.99

00:34:40.000 You want to see a girl's ass when you're playing, right? 1.00

00:34:43.000 Yeah, if you switch to third person, you can play it with a girl character. 1.00

00:34:43.000 Third person. 1.00

00:34:48.000 It's more pleasing to you.

00:34:50.000 The other thing though, you mentioned these PCBs.

00:34:52.000 We can actually objectively quantify that.

00:34:54.000 So the United States Marine Corps has grip strength data going back to the Revolutionary War.

00:34:59.000 They administered grip strength tests at Tons Tavern when they commissioned the Marine Corps.

00:35:04.000 So it literally goes all the way back to the very beginning.

00:35:07.000 So they have the ultimate longitudinal data set.

00:35:10.000 Grip strength among men today is 30% what it was 50 years ago.

00:35:15.000 Oh no.

00:35:16.000 That's rough.

00:35:17.000 Not me though, I got good grip.

00:35:18.000 Hell yeah.

00:35:18.000 I actually act like a guitarist.

00:35:20.000 It turns out grip strength is one of the best proxies, physical proxies, for testosterone levels.

00:35:24.000 Wow.

00:35:25.000 So the Marine Corps won't even let you go to recruit training anymore unless you show up for a year of physical training to prevent training deaths.

00:35:32.000 That's how bad it is.

00:35:33.000 So the handshake, the handshake test, that's real.

00:35:35.000 It's a legit thing.

00:35:37.000 It's a legit thing.

00:35:37.000 It's plastic, man.

00:35:38.000 I've heard that hanging is some of the best things you can do for a person, like hang from a tree branch and just hang.

00:35:43.000 Well, that's what the Marine Corps has you do.

00:35:44.000 If you have weak grips, just hang.

00:35:47.000 Really?

00:35:47.000 Yeah.

00:35:48.000 Hang for 20 minutes before you get chow. 0.76

00:35:49.000 You don't get to eat until you hang. 0.98

00:35:51.000 Wow.

00:35:51.000 That's what they make you do, yeah.

00:35:53.000 Well, sperm count's also on the decline.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, which is another great marker.

00:35:56.000 A completely objective marker of testosterone levels.

00:35:58.000 This is the crazy thing.

00:35:59.000 So, if you look back at, like, we used to drink mercury to try and cure syphilis.

00:36:03.000 These things didn't work, but the hope was that you'd poison yourself so much that I don't know what they were thinking.

00:36:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:09.000 I can't understand this.

00:36:10.000 Like, the people would just die from drinking it.

00:36:13.000 What made them think in any way it would help them?

00:36:14.000 Or like, oh, well, the syphilis must have got them.

00:36:16.000 But then we have asbestos.

00:36:18.000 Yeah.

00:36:18.000 And asbestos actually is fine until you disturb it.

00:36:22.000 But then we started realizing, like, hey, if we're going to start clearing out these buildings and doing remodeling, all of a sudden people are getting mesothelioma.

00:36:27.000 So we get rid of it.

00:36:28.000 Now, here's the problem with PCBs.

00:36:31.000 They've warped our minds.

00:36:33.000 We are now in a, as a society, in a delusional state.

00:36:37.000 And when a person, let's say a person gets hypoxic, you cannot save yourself.

00:36:43.000 That's why they say put on your oxygen mask before putting the mask on somebody else.

00:36:47.000 If our society has been plagued by PCBs and you wonder why it is that you've got to divide between urban and rural, why the Democrats in the cities believe this and people in the country don't, perhaps it's because the people in the cities are gargling and swimming in endocrine disruptors that people who are on well water are not.

00:37:03.000 And I grew up on well water in a farm and ranch in Texas.

00:37:06.000 So what happens then is, as a society that is assuming the endocrine disruptors are doing this, if half of the mind of our society, this body, has been altered in some way, how will you make a sound decision to

00:37:22.000 correct the behavior?

00:37:23.000 A person who is... I actually never thought of that. That's a great point.

00:37:26.000 Right, our minds... so it's not just this issue, I mean it's also drugs and

00:37:31.000 everything else. Sure. So it's like if you can't think, you can't think your way out

00:37:34.000 of it. Right. If you were on a plane, the reason they say put on your mask before

00:37:39.000 someone else's is because if you're all hypoxic, you die.

00:37:42.000 If one person can get their mask on, they can think straight, they can save everybody.

00:37:47.000 But we're in a place now where half the people aren't wearing their mask and so when you're with your mask on saying put the mask on, they're swinging at you and they're in a rage and then just collapsing.

00:37:56.000 You can't vote your way out of it.

00:37:58.000 You gotta appeal to the gut.

00:37:58.000 Yeah.

00:37:59.000 That's the only way.

00:38:00.000 If the brain can't understand or isn't capable from desensitization, you can get through the gut.

00:38:05.000 You know, we talked a little bit earlier about the depopulation agenda.

00:38:09.000 You know, I have friends in Europe and they always make fun of us in America for some of the crazy stuff here.

00:38:14.000 The wokeness.

00:38:16.000 The fact that we pay 3% on our own money.

00:38:18.000 Interest on our own money and our own treasury is bizarre.

00:38:21.000 They laugh about these things.

00:38:22.000 And I just tell them, I just tell them like, Maybe you should have some mercy, because we're probably the most heavily propagandized population in the history of the world.

00:38:31.000 The most sophisticated propaganda regime ever launched against a people has been launched against Americans.

00:38:37.000 And they can't actually see reality right in front of them.

00:38:40.000 They'll deny the evidence of their own senses.

00:38:43.000 It's a bizarre experience.

00:38:46.000 And I can tell you, running for office, talking to normie conservative Republicans, Many of them actually still believe the Constitution constrains the government, and that we should make constitutional arguments to restore the Republic.

00:38:58.000 And you're like, the Constitution hasn't constrained the U.S.

00:39:01.000 government in a hundred years.

00:39:03.000 It's a completely irrelevant document.

00:39:05.000 How can you still keep saying these things?

00:39:07.000 It's because they're heavily propagandized.

00:39:09.000 We should not underestimate how effective the propaganda has been to warp people's visions.

00:39:16.000 Well, the issue is you've got prominent Individuals who make a lot of money just agreeing with whatever the machine wants them to agree with.

00:39:27.000 So to go back to the oxygen mask analogy, if half the people in this country are inundated with PCBs and other chemicals that's damaging their brain or causing them to just have alterations to their mindset, neurodivergence as it were, then someone comes along and says, I don't know about that, but if I agree with them, they'll give me money.

00:39:48.000 That's what's happening.

00:39:49.000 The famous observation that it's hard to get a man to change his mind about something if he's being paid to believe it.

00:39:54.000 Oh, wow.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

00:39:56.000 It's a very simple concept.

00:39:58.000 But, you know, the basic operation of modern propaganda is to demoralize people.

00:40:07.000 But I don't mean it in the sense of making them feel bad.

00:40:11.000 I mean to literally remove morals.

00:40:12.000 Yes, I was going to ask.

00:40:13.000 Because people often talk about demoralization and half the people think you're talking about low morale.

00:40:19.000 Exactly.

00:40:20.000 When you're talking about the removal of morals.

00:40:21.000 The removal of morals.

00:40:23.000 Because you can't understand reality without moral reasoning.

00:40:26.000 This is also something that Heidegger talks about.

00:40:28.000 This is why artificial intelligence is impossible.

00:40:30.000 Because moral reasoning is required It's required to make judgments about the world, right?

00:40:37.000 I wouldn't say impossible, I would just say it's not going to turn out the way we want it to.

00:40:41.000 A big part of what's been going on, though, is that the... No, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:40:45.000 No, no, it's okay.

00:40:46.000 I think that in a lot of cases the goal of, you know, whoever's doing this is to remove our ability to make judgments.

00:40:53.000 That's right.

00:40:54.000 You know, they want us to not be able to differentiate between right and wrong or good and bad.

00:40:59.000 Simply because they want the order to maintain?

00:41:01.000 Well, because they want to get their thing across, you know?

00:41:04.000 Well, it turns out that discriminating between right and wrong is important to discriminating between red, white, and blue, falling down, going upstairs.

00:41:14.000 Like, the apprehension of physical reality is informed by morality.

00:41:19.000 It turns out there's a reflexive relationship between the two.

00:41:22.000 And by removing this moral judgment, you can remove the ability of people to understand what's happening to them.

00:41:29.000 And that's what's going on, too, with the drag story hours and everything.

00:41:31.000 You have kids come in, they look around and they're like, this is super creepy.

00:41:35.000 And then the parents are like, no, this is totally normal and good.

00:41:37.000 But explain the AI thing.

00:41:39.000 Why do you think it's not possible?

00:41:41.000 So what we're really doing with AI is we're doing fancy curve fitting.

00:41:47.000 So, and we put a nice name on it, we do all this stuff, but what it is basically doing is curve fitting to very complicated functions.

00:41:56.000 And it can mimic a lot of the decision-making abilities of humans.

00:42:00.000 It can be really effective if it's layered, so-called deep learning, where it's layered.

00:42:07.000 So you're doing essentially curve fitting on curve fitting on curve fitting on curve fitting.

00:42:12.000 But what it can't do is things that humans do. It cannot look at its environment

00:42:17.000 and make judgments independently about its environment. Like one of the

00:42:20.000 hardest problems in AI is to teach a system to just recognize a kitten. It's a notoriously

00:42:27.000 difficult problem to get it to just optically recognize a kitten, something which a two-week-old

00:42:34.000 newborn can do. 1.00

00:42:35.000 What do you mean it can't recognize a kitten?

00:42:37.000 It turns out that kittens have a fuzzy enough look that it's very difficult for them to discriminate it.

00:42:43.000 But yet a child with the kinesthetic perception, once it holds... Remember, we're talking about two-week-old infants that don't have object permanence.

00:42:52.000 So when you remove it from their sight, they think it doesn't exist anymore.

00:42:56.000 That's why you can play peek-a-boo with kids, because you appear again out of nowhere, right?

00:43:01.000 They don't have object permanence.

00:43:03.000 But you could teach a child that age to discriminate a kitten, but you can't teach AI.

00:43:07.000 It's very difficult to do.

00:43:08.000 We'll get there, I think, though.

00:43:09.000 And also one of the harsh problems is called the The location problem.

00:43:14.000 What if you just plop an AI down in a hallway and get it to recognize where it is?

00:43:18.000 Figure out where it is.

00:43:19.000 This turns out to be extremely hard without the contextual information provided by innate human knowledge about the world.

00:43:26.000 In some sense, what Kant was talking about, that there are categories of perception by which we structure knowledge.

00:43:34.000 That's not possible for AIs.

00:43:35.000 Well, I think we just haven't developed the technology to get there.

00:43:39.000 I think it's possible that, have you seen like the Boston Dynamics robot?

00:43:42.000 Yes.

00:43:43.000 I think you can put some kind of algorithmic learning system within it and let it mill about and eventually it'll start discovering and mapping things and then understanding and all that stuff.

00:43:53.000 No, I actually don't disagree that it would do that.

00:43:55.000 But what I'm disagreeing with is whether that's intelligence.

00:43:59.000 Yeah.

00:43:59.000 Let me give you an example.

00:44:01.000 I suppose that goes to the question of the soul then, ultimately.

00:44:03.000 Sort of, but actually we can just restrict ourselves to just mathematical logic.

00:44:07.000 You know, in mathematical logic there's two separate categories of research.

00:44:11.000 One is called model theory, one is called proof theory.

00:44:14.000 When your computers here do mathematics or arithmetic, they don't understand what the numbers mean, right?

00:44:21.000 So it turns out that what mathematicians are actually doing is they're creating what are called formal languages.

00:44:27.000 And these formal languages have three particular elements that make them up, and they've been thoroughly studied.

00:44:32.000 Mathematical logic is like the linguistics of mathematics, and studies these languages.

00:44:36.000 They have one particular property that natural languages don't have, and that is that every grammatically correct sentence is guaranteed to be true.

00:44:45.000 What do you mean by that?

00:44:46.000 Elaborate.

00:44:47.000 So, if you follow the rules of algebra, you don't need to know what the numbers mean.

00:44:52.000 You'll get the right answer.

00:44:53.000 As long as you followed all the rules, you'll get the right answer.

00:44:56.000 You could see symbols on a page.

00:44:58.000 And know that that was enough.

00:45:00.000 That's called proof-theoretic reasoning.

00:45:02.000 We're just using grammar rules.

00:45:03.000 To simplify, if I understand that three, as a symbol, represents three objects, and you can represent that with, say, sticks, even if I did not know what those represented, if you knew the rules of how the numbers play with each other... You'd still get the right answer.

00:45:18.000 So that's how computers do mathematics.

00:45:20.000 The computer doesn't know that two would be represented by two physical objects.

00:45:20.000 Right.

00:45:24.000 Right.

00:45:25.000 It doesn't know what two means.

00:45:26.000 It doesn't know what it means.

00:45:27.000 But humans usually do mathematics using model theory.

00:45:31.000 Where the number means something.

00:45:35.000 In mathematical logic, a model is when you actually assign meaning to the undefined terms.

00:45:39.000 So if you're doing geometry, you have points and lines, you give them some meaning.

00:45:43.000 Say a point is a dot on a page and a line is a straight ruler on a page.

00:45:49.000 You give it a meaning.

00:45:51.000 Well, here's the amazing thing about formal languages.

00:45:54.000 That any sentence that's grammatically true, just for proof theory without any meaning to the terms, is guaranteed to be true in all models.

00:46:04.000 So it turns out no matter how you define points and lines, if the axioms are true in that model, all of the sentences will be true too.

00:46:12.000 So all the theorems are true.

00:46:13.000 That's not true in natural language.

00:46:16.000 So what the AIs are really doing is a kind of proof-theoretic way of trying to make their

00:46:21.000 way in the world.

00:46:22.000 It's not, doesn't understand the meaning of what it's doing.

00:46:24.000 This is a, that's what you find terrifying about them.

00:46:26.000 I find the whole thing terrifying because I think where we're headed is, I saw an ad

00:46:31.000 for a program that can generate any video.

00:46:36.000 So everybody's been playing with these various AI model, model, uh, art programs.

00:46:41.000 There was like Stable Diffusion.

00:46:43.000 We did a bunch of bits on the show where we like, you know, Donald Trump hugging Joe Biden, and the photo's awful and doesn't really work.

00:46:48.000 But now you've gotten, what's that really popular one that everybody's using?

00:46:52.000 No, no, no, no, the picture generator.

00:46:52.000 G-P-T?

00:46:55.000 Oh my god.

00:46:55.000 I use Nightcatcher.

00:46:57.000 It's called Mid-Journey.

00:47:01.000 What was that?

00:47:01.000 You just bumped us off?

00:47:03.000 It's because I took the mic off and I just hit the wrong button.

00:47:06.000 Everybody's using Mid Journey, but there's another app that can make videos.

00:47:11.000 Now, obviously, there's a big controversy over Deep Porn, where that streamer was watching it, and so I think where we're going is Right now, what we can see, based on the tools that exist, it is entirely possible to combine these things and say, okay, give me the scene, it's a bar, and there's three guys, and they're about to have a fight.

00:47:34.000 You could create the AI models, then tell the machine to make this scene with these models, and it will.

00:47:40.000 You will be able to write a movie and then press go, and it will apply the script, the character names, the description of everything.

00:47:45.000 I agree.

00:47:46.000 The script can be put in, and this is possible literally right now.

00:47:49.000 All we have to do is combine the components that already exist and are purchasable.

00:47:53.000 You can then take an existing script file, name, description, character, sound of their voice, it's all in the script, and then the machine will render that for you.

00:48:01.000 But here's the thing.

00:48:03.000 That's technology today that we simply need to connect.

00:48:07.000 It already exists.

00:48:08.000 Yes.

00:48:09.000 Where we will actually go is you will be sitting in your room and you'll be like, uh, computer, Make me a movie about cowboys in 1870 and they awaken a dragon and he's got to save his son.

00:48:26.000 And the machine will just generate everything instantly for you.

00:48:30.000 The scary thing to me about how nightmarish it is, is We are going to, especially with Neuralink and VR, we are going to tell the computer, generate for me a world where I am the king and everyone loves me and I have to fight a dragon.

00:48:43.000 And then you put that set on and you go into this soulless, masturbatory fake reality.

00:48:49.000 Yes. 0.99

00:48:50.000 That's where we're headed.

00:48:51.000 Yes, that's where we're headed.

00:48:52.000 Yes.

00:48:53.000 I agree with all that.

00:48:54.000 The question then becomes, what is humanity?

00:48:56.000 And what do we want humanity to be?

00:48:58.000 And what do we feel our value is?

00:49:00.000 And do we have a value beyond how we can entertain ourselves?

00:49:03.000 I read a great quote a long time ago, and it said, if humans ever shake hands with aliens, they will be congratulating each other not because they've overcome nuclear weapons, but because they've overcome the Xbox.

00:49:16.000 That is, everything that we are doing as humans is to trigger our dopamine.

00:49:22.000 You take a look at how humans used to live, and we talked about this with Jack Posobiec, I think.

00:49:26.000 It used to be the norm that you would be out in the middle of nowhere struggling to find food, that you wouldn't always have everything you needed.

00:49:31.000 Then we figured out how to basically isolate everything.

00:49:34.000 So what do we do?

00:49:35.000 We take pure sugar, combine it with pure fat, and then we guzzle it down until our hearts stop working.

00:49:41.000 Speak for yourself.

00:49:42.000 I'm done with that, Craig.

00:49:43.000 I don't either.

00:49:43.000 I stopped doing that a while ago.

00:49:44.000 Thank God.

00:49:45.000 I mean, a dessert here and there is fine, but imagine this, that we've taken beets and we've extracted the sugar and hyper-concentrated them.

00:49:53.000 We took an orange, which is delicious and healthy, and we smashed all that juice.

00:49:56.000 That one wasn't even hard.

00:49:58.000 So what we're doing is whatever feels good, but we're just basically electrocuting ourselves, overstimulating until we die.

00:50:06.000 That makes me think we were talking about earlier about morality, because I think some people conflate morality and pain.

00:50:10.000 They think that if it's painful, that means that it's not moral.

00:50:13.000 But the reality is a lot of painful things are the moral thing to do.

00:50:16.000 I want to bring something up in this vein.

00:50:19.000 So this is something my friend sent to me earlier today and I get this text message with a very weird audio clip of my friend telling me that he's obsessed with Joe Biden.

00:50:28.000 And I'm just like, what are you, what is this?

00:50:32.000 It's like not a very political guy.

00:50:33.000 And then he sends me a link to 11labs.io where you can add anyone's voice.

00:50:42.000 I put my voice in and I'll just leave it at this.

00:50:43.000 I don't want to name anybody because I don't want to, I don't, This is a creepy thing.

00:50:48.000 But there are a variety of different podcast hosts.

00:50:50.000 I've uploaded, I took a sample of their voice, and I was able to deepfake their voice in two seconds.

00:50:56.000 I'm not exaggerating.

00:50:57.000 I clicked add voice, drag and drop mp3, thumb snap, and it does it.

00:51:02.000 So first, I'll show you this.

00:51:05.000 This is speech synthesis from Eleven Labs.

00:51:07.000 This is their generic atom.

00:51:09.000 It's what their default is.

00:51:10.000 I typed in, this is not a real person talking, it's a deepfake.

00:51:12.000 Let's generate, see what it sounds like.

00:51:14.000 We need volume.

00:51:16.000 Do we have volume?

00:51:16.000 Uh, yeah.

00:51:17.000 It's generating, though, so it takes a second.

00:51:19.000 Oh, cool.

00:51:20.000 Yeah, gotta give it a second.

00:51:21.000 This is so freaky.

00:51:22.000 I heard my own voice earlier today.

00:51:24.000 And we're gonna play your voice.

00:51:25.000 This is not a real person talking.

00:51:26.000 It's a deep fake.

00:51:28.000 Let's try that again.

00:51:29.000 This is not a real person talking.

00:51:30.000 It's a deep fake.

00:51:31.000 There you go.

00:51:32.000 So, you can type in basically anything.

00:51:34.000 And, um, when I first heard this, I went...

00:51:36.000 Well, that's really cool.

00:51:37.000 I've heard robot voices before, I'm not super concerned about it.

00:51:40.000 Right.

00:51:40.000 But then, we decided to, uh... Oh, which one should I play?

00:51:45.000 Play them all.

00:51:46.000 Here we go.

00:51:46.000 Hi, I'm Luke Rudowsky, and I don't know how to pronounce my own last name.

00:51:50.000 That's Seamus Coghlan, by the way.

00:51:51.000 Well, it's a deepfake of Seamus Coghlan.

00:51:53.000 Of Seamus?

00:51:54.000 That's Seamus, yeah.

00:51:55.000 That was Luke.

00:51:56.000 That sounded like Seamus.

00:51:57.000 That was Luke.

00:51:58.000 Play that again.

00:51:58.000 Hi, I'm Luke Rudowsky, and I don't know how to pronounce my own last name.

00:52:03.000 I'm gonna go with Seamus.

00:52:04.000 I think that's Luke.

00:52:04.000 Hey, what's up, guys?

00:52:05.000 I'm Ian Crossland, and I'm not wearing any pants today.

00:52:07.000 That sounds like Chris Poole!

00:52:10.000 No, that sounded just like him.

00:52:11.000 And I'm not wearing any pants today.

00:52:13.000 Ever.

00:52:14.000 Ever.

00:52:14.000 I really like that guy.

00:52:16.000 That does sound- He did some really great things, like bringing peace to the Middle East.

00:52:21.000 You gotta let it play, Ian.

00:52:22.000 Trump is the best president ever.

00:52:25.000 I really like that guy.

00:52:26.000 He did some really great things, like bringing peace to the Middle East.

00:52:33.000 So we have a whole bunch of different... Should I play it?

00:52:37.000 Yeah, play it.

00:52:37.000 It's so weird because I'm not responsible for what comes out of that guy's mouth.

00:52:44.000 Dude, don't tell Wesley I told you this, but we kissed last night.

00:52:47.000 I think we're in love.

00:52:49.000 I do love Wesley, by the way, but not like that.

00:52:51.000 So, I don't want to play other people's voices that aren't affiliated with this company or the show, but let me just tell you, name your favorite high-profile personality.

00:53:04.000 It is freaky good on some of them.

00:53:07.000 You got all those voice clips from one MP3 that you sent the machine?

00:53:12.000 I took like five to ten seconds of different people's voices, uploaded it, there was no rendering.

00:53:19.000 Five to ten seconds if you do it.

00:53:20.000 There was no rendering time.

00:53:21.000 That's amazing.

00:53:22.000 No rendering time.

00:53:23.000 You just upload it, and then I pressed, the rendering is when you type in the text, and we were able to make Ian say a whole bunch of stuff.

00:53:32.000 Did you try your voice?

00:53:34.000 My voice didn't work.

00:53:35.000 Do you have an example?

00:53:36.000 What?

00:53:37.000 No.

00:53:37.000 Why would that be?

00:53:38.000 Because it wasn't, I have no idea, I wasn't able to do it.

00:53:42.000 I put in a, not that large of a file, because 10 megabytes is the maximum, and what came out sounded just kind of like someone trying to impersonate me by talking quickly, but it didn't sound like me.

00:53:56.000 And my brother tried it, it didn't work on him either.

00:53:57.000 So I'm glad about that, by the way.

00:54:01.000 This really freaked me out because some of the voices we were able to generate, and again the reason I'm not naming these people because you have to imagine what it would be like if someone were to play your voice.

00:54:11.000 Right.

00:54:13.000 It is freaky.

00:54:14.000 So what's the upshot of all of this?

00:54:16.000 There's no upshot.

00:54:18.000 So once we have everybody's voice and deep porn and like all of this stuff, how are you ever going to tell somebody who you are as opposed to who the fake you is?

00:54:28.000 People are going to Take the voice of a famous actress, and they're gonna put it in this, and they're gonna generate her saying things like, I love you.

00:54:37.000 Sure.

00:54:38.000 I will marry you.

00:54:39.000 Oh, your dream come true.

00:54:42.000 Sure.

00:54:42.000 Yes, exactly.

00:54:43.000 That's the vanilla version.

00:54:44.000 Then they're gonna put their face on the body. 0.84

00:54:46.000 Of course.

00:54:47.000 And they're gonna put the VR headset on.

00:54:49.000 And that's where we're headed.

00:54:50.000 That's exactly where we're at.

00:54:51.000 So, real life, and now imagine Neuralink, where you can actually trigger sensory perception.

00:54:57.000 So now people are just telling the machine, create for me Celebrity X, and we're on our honeymoon, wink wink, you know where this is going, and then... Oh dear.

00:55:06.000 Well, you wouldn't even have to say wink wink, you would just do the thing.

00:55:08.000 I'm saying wink wink to the audience here.

00:55:10.000 I get it, you get it.

00:55:10.000 Oh, I see.

00:55:10.000 What concerns me, I think what you were mentioning earlier, Jeff, is that... Because people do weird stuff when they're by themselves.

00:55:14.000 Like the...

00:55:16.000 How the AI doesn't understand context like humans do.

00:55:19.000 So if the creator of the program wants to alter the definition of a word, you're like, I want to go out for a horse ride with my favorite.

00:55:25.000 And they're like, OK, change what a horse means slightly.

00:55:29.000 And there's no way to contextualize.

00:55:32.000 Could the AI not look at all horses across all time and decide what a horse is?

00:55:37.000 Yeah, that's what I mean by curve fitting.

00:55:39.000 It can kind of generate A general image of a horse.

00:55:44.000 It can even look at particular aspects of horses and do that.

00:55:48.000 It just doesn't understand what it really is.

00:55:51.000 Yeah.

00:55:52.000 And it can't deliver that thing that is like reality.

00:55:55.000 Even with Neuralink, I think, it won't be able to quite do that.

00:55:59.000 Well, that's what I think Cypher said in Matrix, the reason everything tastes like chicken.

00:56:04.000 Right.

00:56:04.000 Cypher said that, right?

00:56:04.000 Everything tastes like chicken because the robots didn't know what they didn't know what it tastes like.

00:56:07.000 Yeah.

00:56:07.000 So the thing then becomes, too, who's going to maintain the machine?

00:56:13.000 That's the ethical AI question that comes up a lot.

00:56:17.000 I talked about this on the show a bit, my sci-fi TV show idea.

00:56:21.000 I'll give you the simple version.

00:56:23.000 Did you hear me talk about this before?

00:56:24.000 I have, yes.

00:56:25.000 Go ahead.

00:56:25.000 So the general idea is it's like the last city on earth, and for some reason the world is disrepair and destroyed.

00:56:30.000 It's post-apocalyptic.

00:56:32.000 Nobody in the last city knows why.

00:56:33.000 There's maybe like 10 million people.

00:56:35.000 And so they sent out scouting parties. 0.51

00:56:36.000 One day a scouting party comes across strange, slender, humanoid beings, super thin and tall, in like chrome suits that have advanced technology that just wipe them out and kill them.

00:56:45.000 And then the central conflict is between these groups.

00:56:48.000 The humans think these are aliens that came and wiped out all of humanity.

00:56:51.000 The end of the season is the revelation.

00:56:53.000 And it's like, if this was ever to be made a show, it'd totally be ruined by me telling you this.

00:56:56.000 But the revelation is that these are actually humans.

00:56:59.000 And what happened is, around the end of the 2000s, 2099 or whatever, Humans began rapidly migrating to pods with Neuralink, just like how cell phones were adopted in a matter of a year or two.

00:57:11.000 Everybody had one.

00:57:13.000 Everybody eventually switches to the digital economy and lives in pods where all of their desires are maintained.

00:57:18.000 So all the cities start falling into disrepair because the only thing you need to maintain is the machines that have feeding tubes into people's bellies

00:57:25.000 like the matrix to keep them alive as they experience paradise however they want. But

00:57:30.000 periodically scout groups have to go out to maintain the machine, refuel it. Humans who did not

00:57:36.000 go into these systems don't know what happened because think about it this way.

00:57:41.000 If you were trying to understand the world right now but did not have the internet, would you know what was going on?

00:57:45.000 No, you'd have very little idea.

00:57:46.000 Exactly.

00:57:47.000 So if all news migrates to the metaverse and the people who, outside of it, don't have access to it, people who refuse to join for religious reasons or because they lived in the middle of nowhere and didn't have strong internet, just didn't care.

00:58:00.000 So this is like, so the city as it exists in your scenario is like a few generations down the road.

00:58:06.000 A few generations after, so like 2150.

00:58:07.000 After the pod thing, yeah.

00:58:09.000 So there's no records.

00:58:10.000 Right.

00:58:11.000 They're going online and they're like, for some reason all internet records just cease around this point and newspapers stop getting printed.

00:58:17.000 Something wiped out humanity, we don't know what.

00:58:19.000 But it's not that they got wiped out, it's that they're like... They migrated.

00:58:22.000 They migrated to a place where they weren't interacting anymore.

00:58:22.000 Right.

00:58:26.000 Right now, people in cities have cell phones.

00:58:29.000 You still know people exist in cities.

00:58:31.000 You can still get a newspaper.

00:58:32.000 You can still drive to the city.

00:58:34.000 But if everybody left the city, went underground into a pod to live forever, or for every 70 years, you would never see them.

00:58:41.000 All you would know is one day you walked into the city and there were very few people.

00:58:44.000 Nobody's working.

00:58:44.000 This is the plot of the Machine Stops, the E.M.

00:58:46.000 Forrester.

00:58:48.000 novella was written in what, 1911?

00:58:49.000 That everybody goes underground?

00:58:52.000 Yeah, everybody goes underground, and they are fed and cared for by the machine.

00:58:58.000 And they, they basically like mating happens by machine hookups, and all of this stuff.

00:59:04.000 And then the machine, it stops.

00:59:08.000 It stops.

00:59:09.000 A hundred years later.

00:59:10.000 And then a whole bunch of wacky stuff happens.

00:59:12.000 People are being born in pods who've never experienced the real world and will never leave.

00:59:17.000 And there's only specially designated humans who are reality scouts to make sure the machine is functioning who go out periodically.

00:59:23.000 Got it.

00:59:24.000 With advanced technology because once everyone's in the machine, scientific simulation is rapid and exponential with all the power of the AI that they have.

00:59:32.000 So then they have automation which can synthesize and replicate and advance beyond people who live outside the machine.

00:59:37.000 We're looking at a situation where we're going to have Neuralink, we're going to have all these deep fakes and whatnot so that you can create your own reality inside your own pod, and we're going to have world government that keeps us specifically from moving around so that we don't mess up the environment.

00:59:52.000 You'll own nothing and be happy.

00:59:54.000 We'll own nothing.

00:59:56.000 We'll be in our pods.

00:59:56.000 You could be in it right now.

00:59:57.000 We'll have no freedom of movement.

00:59:59.000 You could be in it right now for all you know.

01:00:01.000 And then you're going to have one person who's Winston in 1984 or the Sun character in The Machine Stops or K in The Trial or The Castle.

01:00:14.000 You're going to have this guy who's just looking around trying to figure it out.

01:00:18.000 Or you're in it right now.

01:00:20.000 Well, I don't think we're in it right now.

01:00:22.000 You wouldn't know.

01:00:23.000 Have any of you seen a classic sci-fi film called Forbidden Planet from the 1960s?

01:00:27.000 No.

01:00:28.000 It's about a civilization that did this, essentially.

01:00:31.000 They created machines that could satisfy their every desire merely with mental stimulus.

01:00:38.000 And they developed from that machines that had near-infinite power.

01:00:43.000 It just, you know, in the 1960s all that all happened on Mars, right?

01:00:47.000 And so you find out that they destroyed themselves towards the end of this movie because what they didn't count on was the Id.

01:00:57.000 The monsters from the Id.

01:00:59.000 The subconscious mind began to make another reality, a terrifying reality, that destroyed them.

01:01:07.000 Because one of the things that in such a world where you're in a pod and you can make any world, your unconscious mind could take control and build things in the AI that you don't necessarily want.

01:01:20.000 And I always remembered that phrase from that movie, The Monsters from the Id.

01:01:25.000 Elon likes to talk about simulation theory.

01:01:27.000 Yeah.

01:01:28.000 And the general idea is that... He thinks we're in one.

01:01:30.000 Well, the idea is that within the next 10 years, we will be able to create virtual reality indistinguishable from base reality.

01:01:38.000 Right.

01:01:38.000 And if that's the case, it stands to reason It's already been done before us.

01:01:43.000 Or that if we did and were to create it, it could have been created and we could be in it.

01:01:47.000 So there's a simple mathematical formula.

01:01:49.000 There's very little differentiation between saying that we're in a simulation and it's all been created and saying that there's a god.

01:01:57.000 Identical.

01:01:58.000 Identical in every way.

01:01:58.000 I have to point out, this is Nietzsche's idea of the eternal recurrence, by the way.

01:02:02.000 Yeah.

01:02:02.000 What is that exactly?

01:02:03.000 It's the same concept.

01:02:04.000 He says, look, everything that's been done has been done before, and it occurred exactly the same way.

01:02:09.000 Well, in the 90s we just said everything was derivative.

01:02:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:11.000 So what I say is it's not a simulation, it's an MMORPG.

01:02:14.000 What's that?

01:02:16.000 A massive multiplayer online role-playing game.

01:02:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:19.000 My son was telling me the other day he thinks we're living on the edge of the simulation.

01:02:22.000 And I was like, why do you think we're not in the simulation?

01:02:24.000 It's not a simulation.

01:02:25.000 It's a game.

01:02:25.000 Yeah.

01:02:26.000 I think it's like, if it if it, you know, people say simulation, simulation, and I'm like, right.

01:02:31.000 I don't know.

01:02:32.000 I think I put my my bet on MMORPG, meaning a large number of people are players and a large number of people are non playing characters that facilitate the existence of the game.

01:02:42.000 I actually don't think that there's... The NPCs would explain a lot.

01:02:44.000 Exactly.

01:02:45.000 Yeah, I don't think that there are any NPCs.

01:02:47.000 I think that does a disservice to humanity and our relationship with a higher power.

01:02:52.000 Well, I think there are NPCs.

01:02:53.000 Have you seen this recent spike?

01:02:55.000 Animals are non-player characters.

01:02:57.000 I understand why you would think that there are non-player characters of human beings.

01:03:01.000 But I don't think it just does those people a disservice.

01:03:05.000 I think it does us a disservice in our understanding of humanity.

01:03:09.000 That moral argument doesn't change my perspective on people being NPCs.

01:03:12.000 I don't want to believe it.

01:03:13.000 They're not truly non-human.

01:03:15.000 They have personalities.

01:03:20.000 Have you seen this recent research that about a third of human beings don't have an inner monologue?

01:03:24.000 Yeah, what's up with that?

01:03:25.000 I don't know how to confirm or deny that.

01:03:27.000 That freaked me out.

01:03:29.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:03:30.000 And have you ever seen the test of mental imagery?

01:03:34.000 No.

01:03:34.000 They say, when you're told to think of an apple, what do you see?

01:03:38.000 And then they showed varying pictures of apples.

01:03:40.000 Some people can't visualize anything, nor can they think words in their own mind.

01:03:47.000 My son was asking me the other day, he was like, Mom, do you think in sentences, like, you're talking to yourself?

01:03:51.000 And I was like, yeah.

01:03:52.000 And he was like, yeah, me too.

01:03:53.000 I was like, okay.

01:03:54.000 I think you gotta learn.

01:03:55.000 It's called an inner monologue.

01:03:56.000 Some people don't have one.

01:03:57.000 I think that's wacky.

01:03:59.000 How do you go about life and figure out how to make decisions if you're not constantly in communication with yourself?

01:04:04.000 So I was reading this story a long time ago, and I was hanging out with my friends, and I was reading, and I was like, whoa.

01:04:10.000 I was like, they're saying that a third of people don't have an inner monologue, and then one of my friends said, what's an inner monologue?

01:04:16.000 And I said, like, when you're thinking, sometimes you're thinking like you're speaking, almost.

01:04:22.000 Like, in your mind, you have a train of thought that is various words.

01:04:26.000 And then my friend was like, I don't know what that is.

01:04:30.000 Here's the other thing, too.

01:04:31.000 I've got multilingual friends who will explain their inner monologue switches back and forth because they speak in different languages.

01:04:39.000 And I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

01:04:40.000 And then there's some people tell me they don't have one.

01:04:42.000 And I asked my friend, like, then what are you thinking?

01:04:44.000 And they're like, I don't know.

01:04:46.000 And I'm just like, what's in your mind?

01:04:49.000 Like, do you see pictures?

01:04:50.000 Because the craziest thing for me is, you know, when I do these videos where I'm like just talking in a stream of consciousness, I'm actually on a multi-track mindset.

01:04:59.000 Sometimes when I'm reading articles and talking, I'm imagining, like, I'm scheduling my day, I'm doing a bunch of things.

01:05:04.000 Wow.

01:05:05.000 Yeah, so, to hear that some people don't even have a single tract was like, how do you function?

01:05:10.000 Is it, like, stimuli?

01:05:11.000 This is why I think that, not this solely, I don't think everyone who doesn't have an inner monologue is an NPC, but I think this is indicative of the fact that some people are NPCs, and we talked about on this show, there's this, I can't remember who brought it up, maybe you know it, Ian, the theory that there's a finite number of souls, And that there's too many humans on the planet, so not every person is in soul.

01:05:32.000 That's horrifying.

01:05:33.000 That's a horrifying thought.

01:05:34.000 Yeah, I think it's more of a resolution.

01:05:35.000 You might not want to believe it, but there's no argument to believe or disbelieve.

01:05:39.000 I think it's like a resolution scaling system where, like, I used to picture an apple, it was red, round, apple.

01:05:46.000 But now I picture, like, a highly refined, I can see the light shimmering off it when I visualize it, only because I've developed my brain and my ability to, by letting go of my shame and stuff like that.

01:05:55.000 So, I think it's not that they don't have it, it's that they can't really see it, because they don't understand what it is.

01:06:01.000 But it's there, communicating.

01:06:03.000 Their subconscious is constantly in communication.

01:06:05.000 Think about this.

01:06:06.000 If you believe in the subconscious.

01:06:07.000 I'm a skeptic on the subconscious.

01:06:08.000 Do you believe animals have souls?

01:06:11.000 No.

01:06:11.000 I'm an orthodox Christian.

01:06:13.000 Exactly.

01:06:13.000 A typical Christian belief, only humans have souls.

01:06:15.000 Right.

01:06:17.000 Play a video game like GTA.

01:06:20.000 Do animals... Or no, no, let's do... Let's play Skyrim.

01:06:23.000 Okay.

01:06:24.000 Do the animals have... Let's just play on that yesterday.

01:06:26.000 Do the animals in that game have souls?

01:06:28.000 No.

01:06:29.000 Well, nobody's playing them.

01:06:30.000 There's no... No one is in control.

01:06:31.000 They just do this programmed-based thing.

01:06:33.000 Right.

01:06:33.000 Now, for a single-player game like Skyrim, no one but you has a soul, because all the other things, you know... Now, in an MMO, you know that many of these people that are running around doing things, these other players... They're people.

01:06:45.000 They have souls.

01:06:46.000 There's a player behind it.

01:06:47.000 But there are also animals running around that have no soul.

01:06:50.000 I look around at the planet, and I look at animals, and I don't see them as having souls.

01:06:55.000 I like Bucko.

01:06:56.000 I don't think he has a soul.

01:06:57.000 How do you define a soul?

01:06:58.000 A player character.

01:07:00.000 I do not think animals are player characters.

01:07:01.000 Do you think they're conscious?

01:07:04.000 I think there's varying degrees of what we define as consciousness, but I do not believe that animals have souls.

01:07:10.000 Do you think they're sentient?

01:07:12.000 Well, perhaps elephants and maybe dolphins and some larger whales.

01:07:16.000 Someone was saying Jesus is alive, Jesus Christ is alive, and I was like, I think what you want to start saying is Jesus Christ is sentient.

01:07:23.000 Because his body died, so he's dead, but his soul lives on in the form of sentience, this like field of magnet—of whatever it is, if it's plasma or something greater than that, that's still there interacting with us.

01:07:33.000 Well, in orthodoxy, we reject the ghost-in-the-machine idea.

01:07:37.000 So, we don't believe that a soul and a body are separate things.

01:07:41.000 So, the way I have tried to describe this… So, would you say that you're like a physicalist?

01:07:45.000 Yes, in a way.

01:07:46.000 The way I've tried to explain this to secular people is, you could look upon a soul as a transmitter, right?

01:07:52.000 And the software program that runs the hardware that does the transmission is the soul, right?

01:07:58.000 But you could also look at the soul as a receiver.

01:08:01.000 There's a transmission from God, and your body is capable of receiving this transmission, and understanding it, and even interpreting it in certain ways.

01:08:15.000 And when you die, the signal doesn't go away.

01:08:18.000 The signal doesn't stop.

01:08:19.000 That's what I'm thinking.

01:08:20.000 I think so, like you've got your own magnetic field that's interpreting the greater field, and then that would be… That's why we believe in bodily resurrection.

01:08:28.000 The body will be resurrection, otherwise your soul wouldn't be resurrected, because we're embodied beings.

01:08:34.000 I think about simulation theory in terms of video games, and you were mentioning, Libby, there's no difference between a simulation and saying it's created.

01:08:42.000 And we've talked about this before, I completely agree.

01:08:44.000 The world is created.

01:08:45.000 Do you think the world's created?

01:08:47.000 Created?

01:08:48.000 Well, I don't know.

01:08:50.000 So, I don't know.

01:08:52.000 Agnostic, for the most part.

01:08:53.000 I'm not atheist, though.

01:08:54.000 I do believe in God.

01:08:55.000 But created, I guess.

01:08:57.000 I guess the simple answer is yes.

01:08:59.000 And perhaps the process of whether you're believing in solid state theory or big bang theory, whatever you want to believe, all of that is the process of creation.

01:09:08.000 Well, it's just transmutation.

01:09:09.000 Nothing can ever be created or destroyed.

01:09:11.000 That's what I – when I was teaching CCD at my church, I had a kid come in and his mom was making him go to – it's like catechism.

01:09:19.000 It's when you're preparing for confirmation, which is – I'm glad to hear that still goes on.

01:09:23.000 It's great.

01:09:23.000 One of the sacraments.

01:09:25.000 Yeah, and so his mom was making him go, and he was like, I'm an atheist.

01:09:28.000 And I'm like, okay, kid, you're 13.

01:09:31.000 Like, that's cool, being an atheist.

01:09:33.000 And he was like, I don't believe in an afterlife.

01:09:35.000 And I was like, okay, so what about that energy can neither be created nor destroyed?

01:09:43.000 And he was like, yeah, okay, I believe in science.

01:09:45.000 And I was like, okay, so what happens to your energy when you die?

01:09:48.000 And he was like, I don't know, it goes back into something.

01:09:52.000 And I'm like, right, so it doesn't die, right?

01:09:54.000 So your energy in some form, even in your scientific atheist understanding

01:10:01.000 of the world goes somewhere.

01:10:02.000 It has to continue on without it.

01:10:04.000 It might be true that energy can be created or destroyed, I just, we think it can't be at this stage.

01:10:08.000 We think it can't be, sure.

01:10:09.000 And he thought it couldn't be, so I got him on it.

01:10:11.000 What's your favorite video game?

01:10:15.000 I actually still like Skyrim, especially with the new updates.

01:10:18.000 I was just playing it with some of the plugins.

01:10:20.000 Skyrim, great.

01:10:22.000 What's the White Run? 0.62

01:10:24.000 Yeah, that's one of the main cities in the game.

01:10:26.000 Did anyone build those cities in the game?

01:10:29.000 Like, when you go into the game and walk up to the city, did any of those characters actually chop down the trees and construct those buildings?

01:10:37.000 Uh, no.

01:10:37.000 No, they didn't.

01:10:38.000 It was created by the creator of the game.

01:10:40.000 Even the house I live in in Whiterun, in the game.

01:10:42.000 But to the characters, they're in buildings that, according to the lore, were created.

01:10:46.000 So I think it's funny when talking about simulation theory, because the idea of a simulation versus a constructed or intelligently designed universe, or a creator, is they're all the same idea, and then you consider this.

01:11:00.000 Dinosaurs and fossils.

01:11:01.000 When people say, they were always there, I don't believe that the Earth has been around that long, many secular individuals or atheists will laugh and say, that's absurd, we've done carbon dating, etc.

01:11:10.000 And it's like, yes.

01:11:11.000 And just like a video game, if we're in a simulation, they were drag and drop and placed there for purposes of the game for some reason.

01:11:19.000 Well, and you have Christians who say that that's what happened with archaeological finds, that they were placed there to be part of our understanding.

01:11:26.000 Like in a video game, the buildings are placed there and no one built them.

01:11:30.000 There's an excellent book called Forbidden Archaeology.

01:11:33.000 There's a shorter paperback version of it, but it's just an analysis of about 1,500 archaeological digs in which, when they do carbon dating, humans have been here way, way longer.

01:11:45.000 They actually correct carbon dating to accord with evolutionary theory, even though the physical evidence contradicts it.

01:11:53.000 And this happens a lot.

01:11:55.000 So like, what I've heard is if something's been exposed to the air, and you carbon date it, it's gonna have a way later, or I think a later date.

01:12:03.000 Right, like we have these famous footprints in Texas, where we have dinosaur footprints, it's Dinosaur Footprints Day Park, you know, and human footprints are also there.

01:12:16.000 Dated to the same time.

01:12:17.000 Someone was just saying 2 million?

01:12:18.000 But they say it can't be.

01:12:18.000 They say it can't be because of evolutionary theory.

01:12:21.000 I think it was Randall Carlson might have said that 2 million years?

01:12:24.000 He thinks humans have been around for 2 million years?

01:12:26.000 Yes.

01:12:26.000 Why does he think that?

01:12:27.000 It just keeps getting older and older.

01:12:28.000 He didn't get any evidence at the time.

01:12:29.000 But aren't they also not necessarily human beings?

01:12:32.000 Like, there are all these other humanoids.

01:12:35.000 Hominids, yeah.

01:12:35.000 Yeah, hominids, that's the word, that like came before us, like Neanderthals and all these different kinds of… It's actually, you guys, you're overthinking it.

01:12:44.000 It's actually much simpler.

01:12:46.000 Life originated on Venus, but a runaway greenhouse effect destroyed the planet, so the last humans, as the planet was falling apart due to a greenhouse effect, which led to, you know, sulfuric acid rain, built the Ark Project, which took the DNA from two of as many animals as possible.

01:12:59.000 The military then launched it before the planet was destroyed, and they came to Earth, which they'd been terraforming for some hundreds of thousands of years, and, you know, then disseminated the genetics to create life.

01:13:09.000 That was around the Precambrian area, which is why we see the Precambrian explosion.

01:13:15.000 That's when the Ark Project deposited all of the new animals because we needed to now

01:13:18.000 start colonizing Earth.

01:13:20.000 Unfortunately, Venus was destroyed and now we can't go back and check because the density

01:13:25.000 of the acid destroys our satellites and probes when they land.

01:13:28.000 When I was a kid I used to think that all of the planets had been consecutively inhabited.

01:13:35.000 I see what you did there.

01:13:39.000 It was Earth's turn.

01:13:40.000 Mars had been inhabited, but it had lost its atmosphere, and so Mars was no longer inhabited.

01:13:46.000 And now it's Earth, and then it'll be like one by one.

01:13:48.000 You know, I was gonna say, a great movie, because The Great Flood is on Venus, not on Earth.

01:13:53.000 Right.

01:13:54.000 And I was reading about how Venus may have once had an Earth-like climate, because it's relatively close enough to the sun, but they do say a runaway greenhouse effect caused sulfuric acid buildup, which destroys everything.

01:14:07.000 And so I'm like, you know, It's a fun idea.

01:14:09.000 When the sun was smaller, it wasn't as hot on Venus.

01:14:12.000 It just expanded and then essentially cooked the planets.

01:14:14.000 Like Venus, they thought those were like a compact, comet impact, all these craters on Venus.

01:14:21.000 But now what they think is that the planet got so hot that it cooked and exploded out all this goo out of itself, basically baked and then exploded because of the sun.

01:14:29.000 But the reason I think that life originated on Earth in this solar system is because of the moon.

01:14:33.000 Because this weird moon like Thea smashed into Earth four billion years ago came out, ball of magma that cools down into this moon that pulls on the tides and causes for all this unique gestation of life.

01:14:44.000 That's not what happened.

01:14:45.000 What happened was, when Earth was forming, God clicked and dragged and dropped the moon.

01:14:52.000 And then typed in the parameters for stable gravitation, and that's why the moon and the sun line up perfectly, creating an eclipse.

01:14:59.000 And then put a whole bunch of water on the planet for the moon to mess with. 1.00

01:15:02.000 Well, physicists recognize this.

01:15:03.000 For the moon to mess with.

01:15:05.000 I mean, I get in conflicts with physicists all the time, because being a math guy, you know, we don't trust the existence of their abstract math entities, and they believe these things exist sometimes.

01:15:15.000 But they have this idea of this, what do they call it?

01:15:18.000 The strong anthropomorphic principle.

01:15:20.000 That the universe does appear to have been designed for physicists to understand it.

01:15:25.000 I love it.

01:15:26.000 And they don't know what to call it.

01:15:27.000 All these constants could have been all these different ways, depending on how the Big Bang went, but they all fell this way that human consciousness could figure it out.

01:15:37.000 There's a strong and a weak version of that principle.

01:15:40.000 Is it a joke?

01:15:41.000 No, it's serious.

01:15:41.000 Because I think people developed sensors to be able to read the universe.

01:15:45.000 That's why we are sensors.

01:15:47.000 Or at the very least, we're only having these conversations because we developed the ability to understand the universe.

01:15:52.000 So, like, otherwise we'd be rabbits running around just going, meh, meh, at each other.

01:15:55.000 Well, that would be the Garden of Eden, right?

01:15:57.000 I mean, when people talk about the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden, I'm always like, I'm super grateful for that.

01:16:04.000 Otherwise, we would actually not be the conscious beings that we are.

01:16:07.000 It's like a, you know, discussion of how human beings became conscious.

01:16:11.000 I was recently listening to a podcast about the theory of evolution and how when Darwin came out with his theory What happened was it was broadly accepted relatively quickly, and all other theories about the, you know, origins of mankind were just tossed out as fake.

01:16:32.000 Interesting.

01:16:32.000 I wonder if he knew somebody.

01:16:33.000 Yeah, I wonder about that as well.

01:16:35.000 Like, how did this theory, how did it explode and become the only theory that we consider?

01:16:41.000 You know what the worst religion would be? 1.00

01:16:43.000 What's that?

01:16:44.000 That we're in a video game and when you die you wake up at a Dave & Buster's.

01:16:49.000 Like Blitz and Chips. 0.76

01:16:49.000 And you're like out of chips on your card. 0.76

01:16:53.000 Like Rick and Morty, the Roy game.

01:16:56.000 You just wake up and everyone's like, that was a pretty good run.

01:16:58.000 What did you do?

01:16:59.000 You were editor-in-chief for an independent media outlet?

01:17:04.000 I always thought Conan's religion was interesting. 0.91

01:17:06.000 You know, he worshipped Chrom, the god of strength, and if you were ever weak enough to have to call on his aid, he would kill you anyway.

01:17:14.000 I like in Klingon religion, the Klingon warriors killed all of the gods hundreds of years ago. 0.99

01:17:20.000 What is your trade?

01:17:21.000 Like, you're saying you're a math guy?

01:17:22.000 Yeah.

01:17:23.000 What is your main, like, studies and focuses?

01:17:25.000 I was trained as a topologist, but you can't feed a family on that.

01:17:29.000 So I do statistics, like most people, which leads me into AI.

01:17:32.000 But I'm more interested in topology.

01:17:33.000 Meaning, like, the study of the Earth's surface?

01:17:35.000 No, no.

01:17:37.000 Man, what's a way to explain this?

01:17:39.000 So there's a set theoretic definition of this, but that will not be helpful.

01:17:44.000 Okay, so imagine that you have a geometry.

01:17:48.000 Could be Euclidean geometry, whatever.

01:17:50.000 You have a geometry.

01:17:52.000 And you take out the ability to measure distance.

01:17:54.000 All right?

01:17:57.000 So now you could think of everything as infinitely stretchy.

01:18:00.000 There's no concept of distance.

01:18:02.000 Relationships.

01:18:02.000 I got it.

01:18:03.000 Well, in that kind of a scheme, a circle and a square and a triangle are all the same shape, right?

01:18:09.000 Because you can stretch them into the same shape.

01:18:11.000 So instead of using a congruence relation like you would in... Basically, you could define branches of mathematics by their identity relations, right?

01:18:20.000 So a congruence relation in the geometry says if you overlay the two objects, they have the same exact outline, right?

01:18:27.000 In algebra, equality is the identity relation.

01:18:30.000 It has to be the exact same number.

01:18:33.000 A homeomorphism is the identity relation in topology, and it's basically, can they be stretched into the same shape?

01:18:38.000 Wow.

01:18:40.000 Real quick, a lot of people have been mentioning throughout the show that the balloon exploded over Montana.

01:18:46.000 We didn't bring it up because as much as I'm checking, all we have is a video and it is confirmed, well it's not confirmed, but it's reportedly BS.

01:18:46.000 Really?

01:18:53.000 Yeah, because I thought it was actually moving east.

01:18:55.000 I thought it was over Missouri at this point.

01:18:56.000 So there's a video going viral showing something coming down, and everyone's saying, explosion, explosion, this is it.

01:19:02.000 And Ryan Saavedra says, video's likely totally BS.

01:19:05.000 Billing says we're not aware of any explosions.

01:19:07.000 And defense officials tell Fox News the balloon over Montana has not been exploded, was not shot down by videos, and videos are fake.

01:19:14.000 Yep.

01:19:15.000 And it's still over Montana?

01:19:16.000 Well, it's moving.

01:19:17.000 No, it's moving east.

01:19:18.000 And apparently there's more.

01:19:20.000 And for some reason the Pentagon is just letting it move east.

01:19:22.000 I mean, it's so humiliating.

01:19:27.000 I feel humiliated by our government, that they're just letting this happen.

01:19:30.000 Like, blow the thing up! 0.98

01:19:31.000 Just blow it up! 0.69

01:19:32.000 I want them to capture it. 0.86

01:19:32.000 Just take it down! 0.86

01:19:33.000 I was thinking what happens is the Chinese were running a border scan across the southern Canadian border and got blown off course.

01:19:39.000 Well, Canada was talking about it, too.

01:19:40.000 Are we sure it's Chinese? 0.98

01:19:41.000 I mean... Yeah, no.

01:19:42.000 It is.

01:19:43.000 China said it was theirs. 0.84

01:19:44.000 They just said it was a civilian mistake.

01:19:45.000 They said, don't worry about it, you guys.

01:19:47.000 It's totally fine that we're doing this.

01:19:50.000 How can we let it stay up there?

01:19:52.000 It makes no sense.

01:19:52.000 It's humiliating.

01:19:54.000 Like, they gotta at least bring it down and study it.

01:19:56.000 I'm so, I have so little faith in this government, I'm just like, I'm chillin'.

01:20:01.000 Is that a PSYOP though?

01:20:02.000 Could it be ours and they're just saying- It's not ours.

01:20:04.000 I don't know, China released an official statement saying it's a Chinese civilian aircraft that veered off course.

01:20:09.000 But that could be a joint declaration by the US government and the Chinese government.

01:20:13.000 You know, the DOD has $1.9 trillion budget and we can't take down a- A balloon?

01:20:19.000 We can, that's the thing.

01:20:21.000 A drone could probably do it. 0.86

01:20:21.000 Well, we won't. 0.86

01:20:23.000 $1.9 trillion.

01:20:24.000 I think there was confusions because it said it's over MO, the state MO, which is Missouri.

01:20:24.000 For real?

01:20:29.000 Missouri, yeah.

01:20:30.000 But that's in the other side of the world compared to Montana.

01:20:32.000 No, that's because it's going east.

01:20:34.000 It's a balloon.

01:20:34.000 It's moving east.

01:20:35.000 It travels.

01:20:36.000 Yeah, but Missouri's got South Dakota, Nebraska, and Iowa between Montana. 0.87

01:20:40.000 Yes, it moved.

01:20:41.000 It's on the jet stream.

01:20:42.000 To Missouri?

01:20:42.000 It's in Missouri now?

01:20:43.000 I thought it was in high atmospheric orbit.

01:20:43.000 Yes.

01:20:45.000 I thought it was like 80,000 feet.

01:20:47.000 Yeah, something super high, and I guess they said that it was moving towards the center of the country.

01:20:51.000 That's what the Pentagon said.

01:20:52.000 They said it was moving east.

01:20:53.000 Yeah, it's the jet stream.

01:20:54.000 That's what happens.

01:20:56.000 This makes me remember Japan in World War II.

01:21:00.000 Those bombs.

01:21:00.000 They built balloon bombs.

01:21:02.000 I mean, this would be a way to deliver a large, huge explosive.

01:21:07.000 I watched some documentary, I was watching a documentary show where some little kids in like the 80s found an unexploded bomb and they like hit it with a rock and it blew up.

01:21:19.000 And what had happened is they explain how Japan would make these balloons that had a mechanism for when they got hot and got too high, then it would like release pressure.

01:21:30.000 But then if it got too low, a bag would fall off and it would go back up and it would make it across the jet stream and start dropping bombs on the United States.

01:21:37.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:21:38.000 It makes me remember that.

01:21:39.000 They found kids after World War Two in England found unexploded ordnance.

01:21:45.000 It was always an issue.

01:21:47.000 I'm so concerned about this balloon. Fugo balloon bomb. Not the balloon itself,

01:21:51.000 it's the behavior, the response to having a Chinese spy balloon. Yes, that's the concern.

01:21:55.000 That's the concern. Why are we not doing anything? Why is the government just like,

01:21:59.000 hey, it's totally cool. It's totally cool that we have this spy balloon. And you know what else

01:22:03.000 the Pentagon said? The Pentagon said, you know, China already has spy satellites, so there's

01:22:08.000 nothing that they can see now that they haven't been able to see with the spy satellite.

01:22:12.000 Yo, they built 9,300 of these.

01:22:13.000 These balloon things?

01:22:15.000 And of the ones that made it to the U.S., only six people were killed by them.

01:22:18.000 They were extremely ineffective.

01:22:20.000 Wow.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, they just didn't work.

01:22:21.000 Wow.

01:22:22.000 They probably had no guidance mechanism, right?

01:22:24.000 It's just random.

01:22:24.000 Just the jet stream.

01:22:25.000 So it bombed Oregon, I guess. 0.99

01:22:27.000 But this Chinese balloon probably has some way to guide Well, this Chinese balloon also is giving China a whole lot of information about how stupid we are and we don't respond to anything. 0.98

01:22:37.000 It's like, here's a major threat, we're not going to respond to it at all. 0.96

01:22:39.000 A lot of people are saying because they have low-earth satellites, this isn't that big of a deal, but like, how do you know that?

01:22:46.000 You need to break that thing apart and look at the nanostructure of the materials used to build it.

01:22:50.000 It could be sensors, it could be all these sensors feeding like infrared data.

01:22:52.000 Plus, even symbolically, even symbolically, like get the Get it off the sky!

01:22:58.000 Yeah, it makes me want to get a gun.

01:22:59.000 Yes!

01:23:00.000 Protect myself in case the Chinese send another balloon over my house. 1.00

01:23:02.000 Yes.

01:23:03.000 We should all have like RPGs take this thing down.

01:23:05.000 It's not going to make it.

01:23:06.000 There's like this whole pattern.

01:23:07.000 You need to send up another balloon.

01:23:08.000 Another balloon to take it down? 0.99

01:23:09.000 To be able to get that high up, what, 80,000 feet or whatever?

01:23:12.000 High atmospheric...

01:23:13.000 But we have people who do that.

01:23:16.000 those guys who go all the way up to the top of the, you know, way above the

01:23:19.000 atmosphere and they jump off platforms.

01:23:21.000 They're like, oh, I'm a thrill seeker.

01:23:22.000 All right.

01:23:23.000 We have one guy.

01:23:24.000 And it's really dangerous because it's dangerous.

01:23:27.000 It looks pretty dangerous.

01:23:27.000 Yeah.

01:23:28.000 If you start spinning, you can't stop.

01:23:29.000 Right.

01:23:29.000 And there's no wind.

01:23:30.000 Then you're done.

01:23:31.000 What were you saying about the structure of it?

01:23:32.000 You saying something bothers you about the structure of this?

01:23:34.000 Well, look, I mean, there's a pattern here.

01:23:37.000 Like we don't protect our Southern border.

01:23:39.000 Right?

01:23:40.000 We know we could interdict all these drugs.

01:23:42.000 We don't.

01:23:43.000 Right?

01:23:44.000 We can drone people all over the Middle East, but we can't drone drug dealers in Mexico.

01:23:49.000 Now we're not protecting our airspace from just blatant intrusion by Chinese spy balloons. 0.88

01:23:56.000 We have an incredibly old, doddery man as president who doesn't seem to care at all.

01:24:00.000 Yeah.

01:24:01.000 There's just like a whole program here.

01:24:02.000 I actually don't believe that the president's in control of the military.

01:24:06.000 Ever since Trump.

01:24:07.000 Trump is what proved that to me.

01:24:10.000 Well, because Trump tried to pull our troops out of Syria and they lied.

01:24:15.000 Even on small things they refused.

01:24:18.000 He ordered military parades every year of his presidency and they refused to do it.

01:24:22.000 I would have loved to see a military parade.

01:24:23.000 That would have been badass.

01:24:25.000 Milley actually gave him the middle finger and put a tank out there and just let it sit there.

01:24:30.000 Wow.

01:24:31.000 I mean, they literally gave him the middle finger.

01:24:32.000 I was heard that Biden wanted to shoot it down.

01:24:34.000 I don't know if he gave the order, but he wanted to.

01:24:36.000 Pentagon said not.

01:24:37.000 Pentagon said not a good idea. 1.00

01:24:38.000 Biden was asked about it when he was talking about some garbage, stupid thing that he's got planned right now. 0.99

01:24:44.000 And instead, he just looked at the reporters and walked out the room. 0.99

01:24:46.000 It's so strange how we give China, in some ways, we're so militant towards China by rhetoric.

01:24:51.000 Well, we can't decide if they're competitors or enemies or allies.

01:24:55.000 Just never do anything.

01:24:56.000 It's odd. Meanwhile, they have, China said that their military needs to be ready by what was it

01:25:01.000 2027 to invade Taiwan. And Biden has said that we will militarily defend Taiwan. So now we're

01:25:09.000 we're literally looking at in our lifetimes, a two front war against China and Russia.

01:25:16.000 This is a disastrous situation.

01:25:18.000 I mean, if Obama was talking about the managed decline of the United States, this is the managed destruction of the United States.

01:25:25.000 It's not even a decline.

01:25:26.000 It's just like, hey, let's just destroy ourselves.

01:25:28.000 I called it this, and I did a video leading with Jack Posobiec's story about how his neighborhood fell apart.

01:25:34.000 It's a slow-motion controlled demolition.

01:25:35.000 We've said it tons of times.

01:25:36.000 Yeah, I love that.

01:25:37.000 I love that.

01:25:37.000 Yeah.

01:25:38.000 I get the vibe that the Chinese are terrified we're going to invade them.

01:25:43.000 And so they're like, if they invade us, we need to know what their northern border is secured like, because we will have to send troops through Canada.

01:25:49.000 We're not an invasive force.

01:25:50.000 We don't have the ground troops for an invasion.

01:25:52.000 And we also don't have the base.

01:25:54.000 Right.

01:25:55.000 The United States is an air superiority military.

01:25:58.000 That's how we win.

01:25:59.000 So we've got missiles.

01:26:00.000 What they're concerned about is Taiwan.

01:26:00.000 Exactly right.

01:26:03.000 They're, I think they're getting ready to invade Taiwan.

01:26:05.000 That's why we just put a bunch of, we're putting a bunch of stuff in the Philippines now.

01:26:08.000 And I think these balloons most likely are, they need as much data as possible.

01:26:13.000 And so, you know, there's a lot of questions like, why aren't they using satellites?

01:26:16.000 Satellites have to keep moving for the most part.

01:26:19.000 I mean, there's geostationary orbit.

01:26:21.000 Yeah, this is going very slowly.

01:26:22.000 They have to crisscross to be able to track different areas.

01:26:24.000 This balloon can move around.

01:26:26.000 And I think most likely, Like I said yesterday and on my show earlier, the guy robbing a liquor store doesn't care that he has a gun illegally because he's already planning on committing a greater crime in robbing a liquor store.

01:26:40.000 China doesn't care if we're mad about a balloon. 1.00

01:26:42.000 They're already planning something that's going to piss us off, so screw it.

01:26:44.000 Well, there's all kinds of ways of doing reconnaissance.

01:26:47.000 Like, their satellites could be looking at all of our electronic emissions trying to detect the balloon.

01:26:52.000 And learning all about our electronic detection systems.

01:26:55.000 This is the kind of stuff that goes on, right?

01:26:58.000 The Russians are actually masters of that. 0.99

01:27:00.000 You want to be like, almost like, oops, we accidentally pulled the balloon down somehow.

01:27:06.000 Just shoot it down.

01:27:07.000 Then you got no evidence.

01:27:08.000 Maybe they can't.

01:27:10.000 Why could they not?

01:27:12.000 Because it's 80,000 feet and it's not something where it's just like, dispatch X to go do it.

01:27:17.000 You need an ASAP missile.

01:27:18.000 Right.

01:27:19.000 You need an anti-satellite missile to get it.

01:27:20.000 Yep.

01:27:21.000 It's too high for a jet.

01:27:23.000 So what do you do?

01:27:24.000 Another balloon.

01:27:25.000 Yep.

01:27:25.000 Another balloon carrying a bunch of blades or something?

01:27:28.000 Listen, if we have a $1.9 trillion defense budget and we can't take down a balloon over our airspace, that is so stupid. 0.99

01:27:35.000 It's that we can't deploy anything right now. 0.99

01:27:37.000 No, I understand that.

01:27:38.000 So we have to build it, which you can't just do instantly. 0.99

01:27:41.000 Well, that's dumb.

01:27:42.000 And we've outsourced all of our production to China. 0.98

01:27:46.000 Can you build an anti-balloon? 1.00

01:27:47.000 Which is also so stupid. 1.00

01:27:49.000 I mean, Trump at least was like trying to get drug manufacturing back in the U.S. 1.00

01:27:53.000 He was trying to convert, what was it, the Kodak factory up in Rochester?

01:27:56.000 Yeah.

01:27:57.000 To turn it into like, uh, what was it like for basically for ibuprofen or whatever?

01:28:02.000 Lasers could take it down, people are pointing out.

01:28:04.000 But you still have to get within a certain range for the laser to be effective.

01:28:06.000 You do.

01:28:06.000 I mean, 80,000 feet is still- You mean some space lasers?

01:28:08.000 That's a long ways.

01:28:09.000 That's a long way for a laser.

01:28:11.000 But maybe they could get halfway up with some kind of high altitude drone, and they do have those.

01:28:17.000 Supposedly we have ASAT missiles that can shoot satellites.

01:28:20.000 I don't know if there's a laser that can- But do they work?

01:28:22.000 Hit 40,000 feet.

01:28:22.000 Maybe we gave them all to Ukraine.

01:28:24.000 I'm actually skeptical that a lot of our technology works.

01:28:26.000 I agree.

01:28:27.000 Our 777 artillery.

01:28:28.000 Very simple machine.

01:28:30.000 It's just absolutely inferior to Russian artillery.

01:28:32.000 The Ukraine conflict has proved that, right?

01:28:34.000 I think a lot of the stuff is made to enrich the defense companies, not to actually kill the enemy.

01:28:39.000 Well, that's why we had to have a war with you. 0.85

01:28:41.000 That's why you had to help Ukraine's war, was to line the pockets of the people who... 100%. 0.71

01:28:45.000 ICBMs are in disrepair.

01:28:49.000 And yet Russians have hypersonic missiles that we know they've launched in Ukraine and work. 0.98

01:28:55.000 And they're 100% stealthy and undetectable by radar because of the plasma that develops in front of them.

01:29:01.000 Oh, awesome.

01:29:02.000 So they're stealthy and hypersonic.

01:29:04.000 And our cities are just really vulnerable.

01:29:06.000 And they're shooting, what, 64,000, I think was what Colonel McGregor was saying?

01:29:12.000 64,000 artillery rounds a day.

01:29:13.000 Wow.

01:29:14.000 And they're gonna blow up all our tanks.

01:29:16.000 And Ukraine can barely muster 5,000, and they've wiped out the artillery round stores for all the NATO countries.

01:29:22.000 Like, we're not industrially prepared for war anymore.

01:29:25.000 No, we're not. 0.94

01:29:26.000 It's ridiculous. 0.72

01:29:28.000 We've done a very poor job. 0.99

01:29:28.000 Russia knows it. 0.99

01:29:29.000 So does China.

01:29:30.000 And I think there's something to be said for innovation.

01:29:33.000 There's an old saying in manufacturing that innovation happens on the shop floor.

01:29:38.000 So when you outsource manufacturing, the innovation goes over there.

01:29:42.000 Because it's from solving real world problems that you learn how to innovate.

01:29:46.000 The Russians have never outsourced.

01:29:48.000 And the sanctions, paradoxically, forced them to develop their own internal industries, which I think bolstered internal innovation.

01:29:55.000 Well, and China outsources, but only for the purpose of gathering resources.

01:29:59.000 I was thinking about France in World War II, because they were like the superpower on earth next to Germany and Japan.

01:29:59.000 100%.

01:30:06.000 And then they were just taken off the table in the early days of the war, like if the United States, if China were to invade the United States in like three weeks with tactical nuclear strikes on the coastal cities and invasion of the capital.

01:30:18.000 The thing is, we can work decentrally now, so it's a lot harder to nullify a country by taking the capital. 0.98

01:30:25.000 But like, we think like, if there was a world war between the United States and like, the United States could be removed from the game in the first days, if we're stupid. 0.79

01:30:33.000 I mean, land warfare, we, I don't, I don't actually think the NATO alliance could possibly beat Russia. 0.98

01:30:39.000 We don't have enough guys!

01:30:42.000 In land warfare.

01:30:42.000 In naval warfare?

01:30:44.000 We just don't have enough stuff.

01:30:45.000 But I don't think the Ukraine thing is attacking Russia.

01:30:47.000 That's what I differ from a lot of my friends on the right.

01:30:50.000 They think that we're trying to attack, I think we're trying to destroy Germany.

01:30:53.000 Oh.

01:30:53.000 That's what I think.

01:30:54.000 I don't think that's very smart.

01:30:55.000 Like they're trying to bankrupt and destroy Germany?

01:30:57.000 Like they were doing to Austria without reserve?

01:30:58.000 Deindustrialize Germany. 0.70

01:30:58.000 To deindustrialize Germany, which was the program in World War I and World War II. 0.70

01:31:02.000 Yeah, but then we paid to rebuild them.

01:31:04.000 Yeah, we did.

01:31:05.000 So why would we want to corrupt our investment at this point?

01:31:07.000 For the same reason World War I started. 0.52

01:31:09.000 We will not allow an alliance between Germany and Russia.

01:31:13.000 You mean it wasn't Archduke Ferdinand?

01:31:15.000 Yeah.

01:31:16.000 You mean killed by the Black Hand Society, financed by the British Foreign Service?

01:31:19.000 Sure.

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:21.000 But the Mackinder thesis, you can look that up, but it's a long-running sort of foreign policy idea, a British foreign policy idea, that there are land peoples and sea peoples.

01:31:32.000 And Anglo-sphere foreign policy has been completely directed toward prevention of an alliance between Europe and Russia.

01:31:40.000 So there's always got to be – and so the Nord Stream pipelines directly threatened that.

01:31:45.000 It was creating an alliance between Germany and Russia.

01:31:48.000 Wow.

01:31:49.000 And Russia was actively attempting to come into the Western economy.

01:31:53.000 They were moving away from China into the Western economy.

01:31:58.000 And Anglo foreign policy cannot allow that.

01:32:02.000 And it's historically, literally since the 1600s, been completely directed at preventing that.

01:32:07.000 That's what World War I was actually about.

01:32:10.000 It was, and so we're literally de-industrializing Germany with high energy costs right now.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, and we killed that whole pipeline.

01:32:17.000 We're also destroying England with high energy costs.

01:32:21.000 Yes, we are.

01:32:22.000 More people freeze every year because of extreme temperatures than die of any kind of heat exposure.

01:32:30.000 All right, let's go to Super Chats.

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01:32:45.000 But let's read what you guys have to say.

01:32:46.000 We got JTTV.

01:32:47.000 Scott says, release the code.

01:32:49.000 Meaning your entire network of influencers.

01:32:52.000 Ian has the most honest roles.

01:32:54.000 Oh, very nice.

01:32:55.000 Hey.

01:32:56.000 So we have a lot of comments early on where people are saying it looked like the balloon was shot down, but it's... I see.

01:33:01.000 Yeah, seems to be not the case.

01:33:04.000 All right, let's see.

01:33:06.000 Okay, Alex says, this man's story is extremely important and needs to get out.

01:33:10.000 Meanwhile, the chat is spammed with Eliza Blue nonsense.

01:33:13.000 Respect the quartering, but y'all need a life. 0.90

01:33:15.000 Well, you know, it is what it is.

01:33:16.000 We're here to talk about Jeff's story.

01:33:18.000 Matthew says, I've been trying to tell people about Jeff Younger, but all the liberals tell me I'm lying or the mother has the right to do that.

01:33:24.000 I'm sorry for the situation.

01:33:25.000 I would be mortified.

01:33:27.000 Yeah, what is the next on the horizon now for you legally?

01:33:31.000 They're going to push me into an early trial as soon as they can.

01:33:34.000 The judge will probably clear the docket and let it get done because they want to get this trial done before Texas passes a law requiring parental consent. 1.00

01:33:42.000 And then what will happen after that?

01:33:44.000 It will happen probably, I'm guessing, right at the six-month mark is how the judge will do it.

01:33:49.000 And then it's possible for the California courts to take over jurisdiction since she will have lived there for six months. 0.99

01:33:55.000 And then my kids fall under California laws.

01:33:57.000 But if Texas passes the law that gives both parents... I'm going to try again to get an order to have them return to Texas and give me emergency jurisdiction over them. 0.67

01:34:07.000 All right, here's one.

01:34:08.000 This is actually seemingly insulting, but also actually kind of respectful.

01:34:13.000 Zach Harrington says, Ian's willingness to say things that would embarrass a normal person is absolutely inspiring.

01:34:19.000 But actually, I think that's a compliment.

01:34:20.000 It is.

01:34:20.000 It's so key.

01:34:21.000 I agree.

01:34:21.000 Because there are a lot of people that should say something, but are worried about what other people think and won't say it, and Ian will say what he thinks.

01:34:28.000 He will.

01:34:28.000 It's freeing, too.

01:34:29.000 Like, they laugh at first, and it's like, oh, I hurt, I hurt, but then eventually you realize, like, they don't laugh as much anymore.

01:34:38.000 Steven says, ask Jeff if he ever considered getting a bishop or priest to do an exorcism on his wife.

01:34:45.000 Well, we converted into orthodoxy and prior to conversion we went through an exorcism and then at baptism another exorcism.

01:34:57.000 And then when my sons were born, we have what's called a churching period.

01:35:02.000 So the children and the mother are not allowed in church for 40 days, and then they come and are exercised and brought into the body after 40 days.

01:35:08.000 So that's three of them.

01:35:09.000 What was the exorcism like?

01:35:11.000 The prayers of exorcism, one, require that you spit on the devil's name.

01:35:17.000 You literally spit to the west.

01:35:20.000 And that's to determine if you're under his influence.

01:35:23.000 And they ask for the Holy Spirit to remove any infernal influence.

01:35:30.000 And it's prayed, the exorcism prayers are prayed by the entire church.

01:35:34.000 Do people cry?

01:35:35.000 Sometimes, yeah.

01:35:36.000 It's like you're literally exercising the soul.

01:35:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:40.000 But you know, orthodoxy is somewhat different than Roman Catholicism in that we do not generally approve of moving the passions in church.

01:35:48.000 So, yeah.

01:35:50.000 Blue Collar Henry says, this is the exact reason MGTOW exists. 0.53

01:35:54.000 No marriage until law changes. 0.97

01:35:56.000 Well, yeah.

01:35:57.000 If you go to my Twitter feed, you'll see that I was swarmed by feminists when I suggested that men may have to start using surrogacy and adoption if they want to have children. 1.00

01:36:07.000 And a lot of conservatives and religious people are really mad at me right now over that.

01:36:11.000 Well, surrogacy is an abomination.

01:36:13.000 And surrogacy should be entirely illegal, commercial surrogacy.

01:36:18.000 What about someone else hosts the baby?

01:36:20.000 It's not someone else, no.

01:36:21.000 It's when you rent a woman's body, jack her full of drugs, and then take her baby once it's born. 1.00

01:36:27.000 Oof. 0.96

01:36:27.000 Yes. 0.96

01:36:28.000 Brutal.

01:36:29.000 I call it pre-adoption, so I don't think it's as bad.

01:36:31.000 I call it… it's extremely… well, you've never been pregnant. 0.92

01:36:35.000 I mean, I could not imagine.

01:36:36.000 It's absolutely a horror.

01:36:37.000 But it's someone else's egg?

01:36:38.000 The woman is hosting someone else's egg? 1.00

01:36:39.000 Yes.

01:36:40.000 Usually.

01:36:40.000 Which also, in order to host someone else's egg, you have to take drugs to prevent organ rejection, the same kind of drugs that you would to do that.

01:36:49.000 You have to go through IVF drugs. 0.89

01:36:50.000 I mean it's like it's an insane process and it's very much like prostitution except you're getting screwed for nine months. 0.76

01:36:58.000 But unfortunately it's the only way for fathers to be secure in their posterity under the law.

01:37:02.000 There's absolutely no reason.

01:37:04.000 I think we should change the laws.

01:37:05.000 There's absolutely no reason that women should be subjected to men's whims and have their bodies forced into that for money.

01:37:13.000 There's absolutely Well, it's consensual if they're getting money, ideally.

01:37:17.000 I mean, I agree that no one should be forced into it.

01:37:19.000 Sure, it's consensual to buy women. 0.99

01:37:21.000 Yeah, you can buy women with money. 1.00

01:37:22.000 You can definitely do that.

01:37:24.000 You can definitely do it.

01:37:26.000 But that doesn't make it right, and it certainly doesn't make it something that should be legally sanctioned.

01:37:29.000 You're only renting, Libby.

01:37:32.000 I'm so opposed to surrogacy, you have no idea.

01:37:35.000 Leasing.

01:37:35.000 It's a lease.

01:37:36.000 But are you as opposed to the single motherhood?

01:37:40.000 I'm as opposed to single motherhood by choice where you would get a sperm donor and do that. 0.77

01:37:45.000 I'm 100% opposed to that.

01:37:47.000 What about getting pregnant naturally but not getting married or rejecting the father, those kinds of things? 0.64

01:37:53.000 I don't think that's great.

01:37:54.000 I don't think that's a great situation.

01:37:55.000 But if you get pregnant and you keep your child, you know, and you do right by your child, I'm in favor of that. 0.56

01:38:02.000 Alright, Patriot says, I sympathize with Jeff.

01:38:04.000 I went through the same thing with two daughters and a drug-abusing ex-wife, who'd have gang members, dealers, and drugs caught on tape leaving them for hours, and drug deals with them present, berated by judges for suing for full custody.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, in general, because of the money interest, I told you about Title IV-D, The family courts generally give the child to the dysfunctional parent because the responsible parent will pay.

01:38:28.000 And make money.

01:38:29.000 The drug dealer will never pay the child support and they'll never get the money.

01:38:32.000 So they tend to give the child to the dysfunctional parent and the functional parent will pay.

01:38:37.000 Is that only if the dysfunctional one happens to be a woman? 1.00

01:38:39.000 No, no, no.

01:38:41.000 There's tons of mothers this has happened to in Texas, believe me.

01:38:45.000 I had custody of myself awarded to my father.

01:38:48.000 So I was raised by my father.

01:38:50.000 And then I had custody awarded to his ex-wife, who was not my mother.

01:38:55.000 You did that by choice?

01:38:56.000 No, no, it all got very screwed up.

01:38:58.000 The whole thing was very crazy.

01:38:59.000 But I mean, I've been through so many divorce processes at this point.

01:39:03.000 Yeah.

01:39:04.000 In Texas, the stats are that in a divorce, this isn't general, this is of divorce couples, 94.3% of the time the father will get every other weekend.

01:39:16.000 It's largely a father problem, but increasingly it is affecting mothers.

01:39:21.000 As men become less responsible, mothers become the more responsible party, so the courts say she'll be the one to pay child support. 0.56

01:39:26.000 What the heck?

01:39:27.000 That makes no sense, that you would give the kid to the less responsible parent.

01:39:31.000 It doesn't for the child's benefit, but it does for the state budgets.

01:39:34.000 And at that point, don't the people have a duty to step up and tell the state, you've gone wrong?

01:39:38.000 Every time I stand up and talk about the problem of single motherhood and the way that the child support industry promotes it, Republican women go absolutely insane on me. 1.00

01:39:51.000 They go insane on me.

01:39:52.000 It is not a popular topic even among Republicans.

01:39:54.000 What is it specifically that they go insane about?

01:39:56.000 They say you're anti-woman somehow because you're for traditional marriage.

01:40:00.000 Like, I want to get rid of no-fault divorce.

01:40:02.000 I think you should be able to get divorced if one of the five faults are present. 1.00

01:40:08.000 But no-fault divorce needs to go away. 0.66

01:40:10.000 If you want to date someone, date someone.

01:40:11.000 If you want to get married, marriage is something different.

01:40:13.000 And the arrangement outside of marriage should be 50-50, custody, no child support, unless one of the parents is unfit, which does happen.

01:40:23.000 What are the five faults?

01:40:25.000 Abandonment, denial of affection, which is basically you don't have sex, right?

01:40:31.000 Fraud.

01:40:33.000 What would fraud be like?

01:40:34.000 You have another family?

01:40:36.000 Yeah, bigamy would be one.

01:40:37.000 Bigamy would be a form of fraud.

01:40:40.000 It's widely... Hiding money and resources and stuff?

01:40:44.000 Well, or it could go the other way.

01:40:46.000 It could be that you say that you have more money than you did, or whatever.

01:40:49.000 You tempted someone to marry you under a lie.

01:40:51.000 Ah, I see.

01:40:54.000 Abuse, and then neglect.

01:40:57.000 Abandonment.

01:40:58.000 Abandonment.

01:40:59.000 Oh, abandonment is different than neglect?

01:41:00.000 You said that already.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, abandonment was the first one.

01:41:02.000 Abandonment.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, go through those again.

01:41:04.000 Okay, so maybe let's see if I got this right.

01:41:06.000 So we got, let's go with infidelity.

01:41:08.000 There you go.

01:41:09.000 Infidelity, yeah.

01:41:11.000 Infidelity, fraud, abuse, abandonment, and denial of affection.

01:41:17.000 Denial of affection, I love it.

01:41:18.000 No, you have a right to sex in marriage. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Prior to no-fault divorce, you had a right to that.

01:41:23.000 Wow.

01:41:24.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:41:26.000 McChillis says, a man has to be absolutely insane these days to get married in the U.S.

01:41:29.000 I agree.

01:41:30.000 Many would caution against even cohabitation due to common law marriage.

01:41:33.000 Wise up men, MGTOW, free top G, repeal the 19th. 0.94

01:41:33.000 I agree. 0.94

01:41:36.000 You know what it is?

01:41:37.000 It's like reverse.

01:41:38.000 Common law is not real, though.

01:41:39.000 People misunderstand common law.

01:41:41.000 It's not a real thing.

01:41:42.000 What is it?

01:41:43.000 It's this urban legend that if you live with a woman for a long enough period of time, you are now legally married, but that's just not real.

01:41:49.000 That's not true.

01:41:50.000 Texas does have a common law statute, but it requires that you represent yourself as married three times in public.

01:41:56.000 Yeah.

01:41:57.000 And it's because you are choosing.

01:41:59.000 What does it look like to represent yourself as married?

01:42:01.000 You say you're married.

01:42:02.000 Oh, you say it.

01:42:02.000 The idea is you're inadvertently married and you go, oh no, now I'm married because we lived together.

01:42:07.000 We were roommates.

01:42:07.000 That's not how it works.

01:42:08.000 That doesn't work.

01:42:09.000 You have to assert your marriage, you have to file claims against your marriage, and then after some amount of time you can legally seek benefits.

01:42:15.000 But if you don't, then you won't.

01:42:18.000 But living with a woman could still be very dangerous because you have no rights if you're not married and you have a child. 1.00

01:42:23.000 Your rights are even worse if you're not married.

01:42:27.000 All right.

01:42:28.000 LaCouva says, deadlifts are great for grip strength.

01:42:30.000 Ian, look into the starting strength program.

01:42:33.000 It's great for beginners.

01:42:34.000 Also, when Luke comes back, you should try to get the program's founder, Mark Ripoteau, on.

01:42:39.000 Yeah, Mark's a cool guy.

01:42:40.000 Cool.

01:42:41.000 Thanks.

01:42:43.000 All right, Alex Schott says, just think, not too long ago the biggest peer pressure kids had to worry about was, hey kids, do you want to go smoke and get drunk? 0.98

01:42:49.000 Now it's, hey kids, do you want to take hormone blockers and cut off your junk? 0.58

01:42:52.000 Yep, and the schools are pushing it. 0.99

01:42:54.000 That's the difference.

01:42:55.000 The schools were against drugs, but the schools are all pushing this.

01:42:59.000 That's scary for a lot of these kids.

01:43:01.000 You look at these detransitioners, these kids are going to grow up and it's going to be really horrifying. 1.00

01:43:05.000 Yes, it is.

01:43:05.000 It's already horrifying if you've met any of them.

01:43:07.000 Have you been in touch with Chloe Cole?

01:43:09.000 No, I have online.

01:43:11.000 I have online.

01:43:12.000 But I have good friends of mine in Texas who are detransitioners. 1.00

01:43:16.000 They already are DE transitioners? 0.95

01:43:18.000 Yes, yeah.

01:43:19.000 In fact, have you guys seen the video of me at UNT when Antifa attacked me?

01:43:23.000 With Kelly Neidert, right?

01:43:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:26.000 I talked to Kelly about that.

01:43:27.000 She was terrified.

01:43:28.000 She was like locked in a closet for a while.

01:43:29.000 Yes, yes.

01:43:30.000 I got a rib broken.

01:43:32.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:43:32.000 The guy tried to choke me out. 0.71

01:43:34.000 They wouldn't let you speak at all.

01:43:36.000 Did you end up speaking at all?

01:43:38.000 Yeah, they eventually saw.

01:43:40.000 Because I'm not like these these limp-wristed normie conservatives.

01:43:43.000 So Antifa shows up, right?

01:43:46.000 I'm like, okay, I got an hour and a half.

01:43:48.000 I'm gonna make you yell for an hour and a half. 0.95

01:43:50.000 Go for it.

01:43:50.000 And I had a microphone so I could always yell louder than them.

01:43:53.000 So I was like, is this all you commies got?

01:43:55.000 The red guards are better than you guys. 1.00

01:43:57.000 So they got all pissed and then they were worn out after about half an hour.

01:44:01.000 You just can only bang tables and yell for so long.

01:44:04.000 And then one of the shot callers from Antifa, there's always a shot caller, right?

01:44:08.000 The shot caller comes over. 0.99

01:44:10.000 And he stupidly posted this on YouTube. 0.98

01:44:12.000 The shot caller posted all of his radio and chat comments to all the other guys. 0.99

01:44:17.000 It's funny.

01:44:18.000 He comes over and says, you know what this guy's doing? 0.99

01:44:20.000 He's making us look stupid by making us chant like this. 0.99

01:44:23.000 We probably should let him talk. 0.99

01:44:25.000 So then I started my talk and then they surrounded the building with about 400 people.

01:44:29.000 Whoa.

01:44:31.000 Three or four hundred.

01:44:32.000 And then they threatened to burn the building down and then the police evacuated.

01:44:36.000 Nazis.

01:44:37.000 Yeah, that's what they were.

01:44:38.000 I call them neocoms. 1.00

01:44:38.000 Neocoms. 1.00

01:44:39.000 Some guy got a good shot of me.

01:44:40.000 The cop put my head down and then somebody, I don't know if it was a knee or something, but a guy broke my rib on my right side.

01:44:47.000 Guy tried to choke me, I had to gable grip out of it.

01:44:49.000 Were you like, they were taking you through a crowd or something?

01:44:51.000 Yeah, to get to a police car.

01:44:52.000 And this was all because you were trying to protect your children.

01:44:54.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:44:57.000 I was running for political office in Texas.

01:44:58.000 I was running to be a member of the Texas House, and Kelly Nider's organization, the Young Conservatives of Texas, invited me to come speak about my campaign.

01:45:08.000 And because of the anti-trans stuff.

01:45:10.000 So I'm like on the top 10 list for Antifa in Texas.

01:45:14.000 Like when I go to the Capitol, they have armed people follow me around.

01:45:17.000 You know, and people are all like, you should move to Texas.

01:45:19.000 You should move to Florida.

01:45:20.000 I'm like, dude, West Virginia is MAGA country.

01:45:22.000 Yes.

01:45:22.000 So I have to say this, because we've got people who issue threats and stuff.

01:45:27.000 If they came out to the mountains of West Virginia, my warning to them is, like, please don't because we don't want you to get hurt.

01:45:33.000 Right.

01:45:33.000 Like, I'm just saying, you're going to come to some mountain and there's going to be some right-wing nut job with, you know, an AR on each shoulder and pistols on each, you know, all over his body and he's going to be yelling yeehaw as he sees it rolling up.

01:45:45.000 Like, don't do it.

01:45:46.000 Don't come out here, man. 0.98

01:45:47.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 You know, it's like... Antifa's all over the urban areas of Texas.

01:45:51.000 Yeah, you come out here and, uh, nope.

01:45:56.000 The posts on social media scare me, honestly.

01:45:58.000 Which posts?

01:45:59.000 The posts where they're like, I hope they come here, it would be awesome, make my day, and I'm like, no, guys, you don't want to hurt, like, we don't want anybody getting hurt, we don't want Antifa showing up, because then they're going to be leaving in body bags, and that's bad, bad, bad, do not come out here.

01:46:13.000 Ain't nobody out here is gonna tolerate that.

01:46:17.000 And we've seen these videos from a few years ago where like Antifa showed up to a residential neighborhood, and it was in a suburban area.

01:46:22.000 And then people came out of their houses and it was like, it was like union guys.

01:46:26.000 Yes.

01:46:26.000 And they just started shoving them and pushing them.

01:46:29.000 Then you see videos where people- That was in West Virginia?

01:46:30.000 No, no, no, no.

01:46:31.000 It was just some suburb.

01:46:32.000 I can't remember where it was.

01:46:33.000 But they're pushing on the antifas like, stop!

01:46:34.000 Stop, man!

01:46:35.000 Leave us alone! 1.00

01:46:36.000 Yeah, they can get away with this in cities where the police run cover for them.

01:46:39.000 But you come out into the countryside where you walk onto someone's property with a weapon and self-defense and castle doctrine kick in real quick.

01:46:39.000 That's what I was gonna say.

01:46:48.000 Please do not come out here with malintent.

01:46:50.000 Well, they didn't in Missouri with that couple that stood outside.

01:46:53.000 Louis.

01:46:53.000 That was in St.

01:46:53.000 Yeah.

01:46:54.000 That's St.

01:46:54.000 Louis.

01:46:55.000 The police protect Antifa.

01:46:57.000 They do.

01:46:58.000 Antifa only operate in permissive environments.

01:47:00.000 And so that tells you a lot about the political structures where you live.

01:47:04.000 So I live in Denton County, Texas, in a town called Flower Mound.

01:47:09.000 And it's very instructive that they will not operate in Flower Mound, but they will operate in Denton, the city, which is in Denton County, because the sheriff is permissive.

01:47:19.000 And the police chief in Denton is permissive.

01:47:19.000 Yep.

01:47:21.000 That's all you need to know about your elected officials in law enforcement, is if Antifa operates there, they're allowing it.

01:47:27.000 Yep, hands down, because it's no surprise they don't operate out here.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:32.000 Because the cops out here, they're not actually like far right or anything.

01:47:35.000 We've worked with them because of the threats that we've gotten, and they're just kind of regular dudes, but they don't tolerate it.

01:47:40.000 But more importantly, the attitude out here is kind of like, well, you know, it's West Virginia, it's constitutional carry, and if someone shows up and there's a threat to someone's life, they have a right to defend themselves and their property.

01:47:53.000 That's why I'm like, I'm actually worried for these people if they came out to the mountain, because you look at these message boards for the neighborhood, and it's just people salivating, being like, make my day.

01:48:06.000 And I'm like, oh man.

01:48:08.000 If he'd only stepped over the line, I could've got him, yeah.

01:48:13.000 Don't come out here, man. 0.98

01:48:14.000 But that's why it's like, Texas, I don't want to go to a dense urban environment where I have to rely on cops.

01:48:22.000 I'd rather be in my constitutional carry state.

01:48:24.000 We have security guards, we have armed stuff, but we have laws that allow us to defend ourselves.

01:48:29.000 I love that.

01:48:29.000 And you have neighbors who don't take kindly to people from driving all the way out here, far left wing nuts.

01:48:37.000 Sure.

01:48:38.000 Yeah, nut jobs. 0.50

01:48:39.000 I love it.

01:48:40.000 All right.

01:48:41.000 Agamemnon's Gym Bag says, We're literally living in the plot of 99 Red Balloons, but all I care about is your son's welfare.

01:48:48.000 Jeff, I'm not a praying man, but you have my prayers tonight.

01:48:51.000 Lukenbach is no longer a destination to move to.

01:48:53.000 Yeah.

01:48:54.000 Yeah, Texas is a very conservative population that is ruled by extremely left-wing Republicans.

01:49:03.000 Was it always like that in the last decade?

01:49:04.000 Pretty much.

01:49:05.000 People forget, until the mid-90s, Democrats ran Texas.

01:49:09.000 It was a Democrat state until the mid-90s.

01:49:11.000 California was Republican until the late 80s.

01:49:13.000 All they did in Texas is they switched from being Democrats to being Republicans, and they run as a Republican, but they're still liberal.

01:49:20.000 Did anyone else have 99 red left balloons running through your head all day?

01:49:24.000 Nina? 0.95

01:49:25.000 Sean says ATF has begun a 120-day amnesty period to register your braced pistols and waive the $200 tax.

01:49:32.000 If caught with a braced pistol after 120 days, you'll be fined $250,000 and sentenced 10 years in prison.

01:49:39.000 Uh, I'm pretty sure the ATF does not have legislative powers, so this is completely unconstitutional and will likely be overturned very quickly after the volley of lawsuits fired off by every single gun rights organization.

01:49:51.000 So, uh, you know, we'll see.

01:49:53.000 I have a feeling this is gonna get shot down in the court, an emergency injunction within a matter of a week, but we'll see.

01:49:59.000 To stress, the ATF can't decree legislation that you will go to prison for a thing that was not made illegal by Congress.

01:50:07.000 So, good luck.

01:50:09.000 Right.

01:50:09.000 But you know, take it seriously, because I'm not saying the government ain't corrupt.

01:50:12.000 They certainly are.

01:50:13.000 They'll certainly try.

01:50:14.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:50:17.000 We'll grab some more.

01:50:18.000 Dusty Firebird says, Libya's a rock star.

01:50:20.000 Thank you for fighting for kids, Mr. Younger.

01:50:22.000 This episode is why I watch every night.

01:50:24.000 I film birds in exotic locations.

01:50:25.000 Follow me if you love nature, too.

01:50:27.000 Very cool.

01:50:27.000 What's the name?

01:50:29.000 Dusty Firebird.

01:50:30.000 Dusty Firebird.

01:50:31.000 Yeah.

01:50:33.000 All right, where are we at?

01:50:35.000 A lot of people mentioning the massive explosion in Billings, Montana, but what I could see is probably nothing, you know?

01:50:45.000 Alright.

01:50:46.000 Guardsman Norheim of the 10th First says, Tim's voice didn't work in the deepfake because he's not an NPC already programmed in the machine.

01:50:53.000 You know, I don't know but I will say this.

01:50:55.000 I have been told By comedians, it's hard to impersonate me.

01:51:01.000 Interesting.

01:51:02.000 I think Seamus was trying to do something from Freedom Tunes and he was like, I couldn't figure out how to get Tim Pool, I don't know.

01:51:08.000 Someone asked him on the show, I think, can you do a Tim Pool voice, and he was like, I don't know, I can't figure it out.

01:51:12.000 And I've heard that before.

01:51:12.000 Interesting.

01:51:13.000 I don't know, that's just me.

01:51:15.000 Wow.

01:51:15.000 Joe Rogan is also really hard to impersonate.

01:51:18.000 People, like, look, Trump is moderately difficult, but people nail Trump.

01:51:23.000 Tom Cruise, pretty easy to get.

01:51:25.000 Ian McKellen is easy.

01:51:28.000 You can nail these impersonations.

01:51:30.000 Dr. Fauci, I think, is pretty easy.

01:51:33.000 Dr. Fauci has the same accent as my grandmother did.

01:51:36.000 Yeah, he's fairly easy.

01:51:38.000 But Joe Rogan has a weird voice.

01:51:40.000 That's like Bensonhurst, Brooklyn.

01:51:43.000 If you ever notice this, a lot of parodies with Joe Rogan will just get nowhere near sounding like him.

01:51:50.000 It's weird.

01:51:51.000 He's always posting on Instagram pictures of tattoos people get of his face.

01:51:56.000 It's kind of weird.

01:51:57.000 I'm always like, what is the deal with this?

01:51:59.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:52:00.000 He didn't post it first.

01:52:01.000 I think he was weirded out.

01:52:02.000 And then he was like, you know what?

01:52:03.000 I'm just accepting my life.

01:52:06.000 This is real life.

01:52:06.000 And some of them are wild.

01:52:07.000 Some of them have like a third eye.

01:52:13.000 All right.

01:52:14.000 The Pool Sheriff says, you'll have to buy an official character in the metaverse so people know it's you and your truth will not some fake, kind of like a blue checkmark.

01:52:23.000 Well, I think what it'll be like is there will be the default avatars the poor people will have, where there's like seven models and they all look the same but with like different colors. 0.85

01:52:30.000 And then there'll be the premium models that cost, you know, 15 bucks a month or whatever.

01:52:33.000 And then everyone will subscribe and... Or you'll be able to rent your premium clothing in the game just by spending time in the game.

01:52:39.000 In the game, there will be no skins.

01:52:41.000 Yeah, you'll get free skins if you spend 40 hours a week.

01:52:44.000 If you live and work in the metaverse, there's no crime, there's no theft.

01:52:47.000 No one can mug you.

01:52:48.000 You have no fear of violence or anything like that.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, but you have no idea what's happening to your actual body.

01:52:51.000 No, you're in the pod.

01:52:52.000 It's locked.

01:52:53.000 Oh, you're in the locked pod.

01:52:54.000 Sensory deprivation.

01:52:55.000 They could also do it as augmented.

01:52:56.000 Like in the Mitchells vs. the Machines.

01:52:57.000 Did you see that movie?

01:52:59.000 That's actually a good Netflix... Have you seen Surrogates?

01:53:02.000 No.

01:53:02.000 Bruce Willis, you've seen it?

01:53:03.000 Yeah.

01:53:03.000 Everybody has a surrogate robot version of themselves.

01:53:06.000 They don't leave their houses, they go in pods that control the robot, and the robot goes and does everything for them.

01:53:10.000 Oh, I had a friend of mine who's severely disabled who was telling me that he really wanted one of those.

01:53:15.000 Well, it's like an avatar.

01:53:16.000 The dude was paralyzed, so he got to be the, you know.

01:53:19.000 The movie did a good job of presenting the creepiness of the robots, though.

01:53:23.000 The robots were creepy in that movie.

01:53:24.000 Oh, right, yeah.

01:53:25.000 Plastic-looking.

01:53:26.000 And then there's the scene where it's like the hot chick is making out with the guy, and then gets killed, and they're like, let's go find the operator, and the operator's like a 400-pound morbidly obese guy.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, that's the future.

01:53:37.000 If we go circuit, I think it'll be Metaverse.

01:53:39.000 Like, building complex androids seems like too much work.

01:53:42.000 Metaverse would be easier.

01:53:43.000 Yeah.

01:53:44.000 But nobody has legs in the Metaverse right now.

01:53:46.000 Oh, really?

01:53:47.000 I haven't checked it out.

01:53:48.000 Yeah, I've never gone in the Metaverse or used the Metaverse, however you pronounce it or describe it, but there's no legs.

01:53:54.000 We really need treadmill.

01:53:55.000 People just float around.

01:53:56.000 Treadmills in the Metaverse?

01:53:57.000 Yeah, VR treadmills where you strap into, like, a bouncy harness.

01:54:01.000 Yeah, but they're not quite good enough.

01:54:02.000 I want smooth feet where I can run full speed and jump.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, but I haven't found a really good one.

01:54:08.000 If you guys have a good one, you tell me.

01:54:09.000 The one with the bowl?

01:54:11.000 I don't know.

01:54:11.000 It's a bowl that's a touchscreen, and you're wearing a waist harness that goes around your waist, and you run, and when you run, your character moves.

01:54:21.000 I was at VidCon seven years ago, and they had it set up, and people were playing an FPS, a first-person shooter, and you're watching these people in these pods up high, and they're running full speed, strapped in, and then going like this and shooting at each other.

01:54:35.000 I've seen a lot of them, but they're only running like they can't have a full gate,

01:54:39.000 like they can't because the bases aren't that big. Once you can get it big enough where you

01:54:43.000 can run full speed and jump and land without hurting yourself.

01:54:47.000 They have a treadmill that moves in all directions that you can run on.

01:54:50.000 Dude, and then you get haptic feedback, shirt, gloves, you can feel stuff hitting you.

01:54:54.000 It's going to be so good.

01:54:55.000 And you can feel other things too.

01:54:58.000 You sure can!

01:54:59.000 This sounds like hell to me.

01:55:00.000 And you can swim, like if you can go like prone and like swim kind of like where you're held, but then you got gravity.

01:55:05.000 That's a big part of it is the underwater stuff is hard to mimic right now.

01:55:09.000 Right.

01:55:10.000 I think we need to bring back appreciation for the real world.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, I'd say go to a boxing ring.

01:55:16.000 Do something real.

01:55:16.000 I'm probably not going to do that, but... All right.

01:55:19.000 Someone in the chat said that Metaverse graphics is like PS2.

01:55:22.000 Yes.

01:55:24.000 It's not good.

01:55:24.000 And it's because the lenses are high resolution, but super zoomed in so it can work.

01:55:30.000 Got it.

01:55:30.000 So we need to get to like, you know, 16K resolution before it starts becoming, you know, better.

01:55:36.000 Did any of you do Second Life?

01:55:38.000 Have you ever been in Second Life?

01:55:39.000 I remember Second Life.

01:55:39.000 I played that one time for a little bit and I was kind of whatever.

01:55:42.000 I watched some gameplay footage of it.

01:55:43.000 I bought some land in Second Life and had a server in it for a while.

01:55:47.000 I was experimenting with it.

01:55:49.000 There were some universities that had put up like university areas where they were like actually doing lectures and stuff.

01:55:57.000 It actually looks better than the metaverse.

01:56:00.000 I had some friends who were Italian architects and they were obsessed with Second Life.

01:56:03.000 Because you could build stuff in there, yeah.

01:56:05.000 I used to play World of Warcraft and I will tell you this... Night Elf?

01:56:10.000 I was.

01:56:10.000 Human Rogue.

01:56:12.000 Night Elf Druid.

01:56:12.000 What about you?

01:56:13.000 Night Elf Druid.

01:56:14.000 Most powerful in the whole game.

01:56:15.000 He's just so versatile.

01:56:17.000 Well, the versatility was good.

01:56:18.000 Paladins are good too.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, they're amazing.

01:56:20.000 I think they're a little overpowered.

01:56:22.000 What I always found funny was that when I would play Rogue and do PvP I had no problem You guys used to piss me off.

01:56:29.000 People would complain that warriors were too strong and rogues couldn't kill them.

01:56:32.000 So they patch it and make rogues stronger. 0.65

01:56:35.000 And I'm just like, this is the most ridiculous thing ever, just because these people didn't know how to play.

01:56:39.000 But what happens is Blizzard keeps going in and seeing like, well, we gave them the tools to play the character properly,

01:56:45.000 but they couldn't figure it out.

01:56:45.000 So they're not having fun.

01:56:46.000 So we better change the game to make it fun.

01:56:48.000 It's made it easier.

01:56:49.000 Rogues are so deadly.

01:56:51.000 I remember standing out with my night elf, shooting out arrows, you know, to catch their invisibility.

01:56:58.000 Just aiming randomly?

01:56:59.000 Just aiming randomly, because I don't know where they are, and they just keep backstabbing me over and over.

01:57:02.000 Oh, and see, Vanilla was the best with preparation.

01:57:05.000 Because then you'd, like, the bleeds.

01:57:08.000 So, like, I never had a problem with warriors.

01:57:10.000 You would just, like, you'd go up, you garrote, you hemorrhage, hemorrhage, you bleed, then you vanish, then you just wait.

01:57:17.000 You wait as the warrior's screaming and swinging at nothing.

01:57:20.000 And then once the bleeds go down, you go up and do it all over again, then you prep, then you vanish again, then you wait.

01:57:24.000 And I'm like, it's the easiest thing in the world people complained about.

01:57:27.000 The problem is because it's capture the flag.

01:57:28.000 If it was just one on one, you could handle a rogue.

01:57:30.000 What do you mean?

01:57:31.000 Well, I could handle a rogue one on one, but I had a goal I had to go do.

01:57:34.000 So I had to forget about the guy behind me.

01:57:35.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 And I couldn't stay on the rogue.

01:57:38.000 It was the invisibility.

01:57:39.000 You could not, you didn't know where to attack.

01:57:40.000 They needed to be, like, shimmery so you could at least see them.

01:57:43.000 Oh, no.

01:57:43.000 That ruins the purpose.

01:57:44.000 They changed Heroes of the Storm.

01:57:45.000 It was brutal.

01:57:46.000 Absolutely brutal.

01:57:47.000 It was OP.

01:57:47.000 I can't believe we're, like, bonding over WoW here.

01:57:49.000 But here's the thing.

01:57:51.000 Vanilla, right before the release of Burning Crusade, was the best it ever was.

01:57:56.000 That's it. 0.90

01:57:57.000 And then once Burning Crusade came out, it sucked.

01:58:00.000 And then what was next?

01:58:02.000 Like Wrath of the Lich King or something?

01:58:03.000 Yes.

01:58:04.000 I was done.

01:58:04.000 I just stopped.

01:58:05.000 I liked flying.

01:58:06.000 It's the last one I played was Wrath of the Lich King.

01:58:08.000 I think flying kind of ruined it.

01:58:11.000 Because it used to be when you couldn't fly, there was so much to do.

01:58:15.000 And me and my friends would go glitch hopping and find all the exploits and then risk getting banned and we'd get warnings.

01:58:20.000 But we would go underneath Stormwind and then Yeah, because there was an area where you could glitch through the walls.

01:58:25.000 Yes, I remember this.

01:58:25.000 I used to go on top of Undercity, and they took all of that fun stuff away.

01:58:30.000 It was like they created this universe that you could go into and play games and had missions, but there was also, we'd look on the map and we'd be like, hey, has anyone ever realized this portion of the continent we've never been to?

01:58:40.000 Right, right.

01:58:41.000 We go there and there's no way in, so we start glitch hopping,

01:58:44.000 basically jumping until we find a way to break through, and then we're in this big flat space

01:58:49.000 with literally nothing in it, and we're on the map.

01:58:51.000 Then we message our friends being like, look where we are, look where,

01:58:54.000 and then they took it all the way from us.

01:58:56.000 Did you get into the center of Duskwood?

01:58:58.000 You know, there's that big, where you see stitches for the first time,

01:59:00.000 you guys know what I'm talking about?

01:59:01.000 Yes.

01:59:02.000 There's that big mountainous area in the middle.

01:59:04.000 Yeah.

01:59:05.000 Is there something in there?

01:59:06.000 I never found anything in there.

01:59:07.000 I went all around it.

01:59:08.000 People are calling us soy boys for playing World of Warcraft.

01:59:11.000 I didn't fly, so you could probably go up there now.

01:59:13.000 It just ruined it.

01:59:14.000 And that's why I think when people started releasing the vanilla versions, the classic, that people got really into it.

01:59:19.000 And then Blizzard got mad and sent lawyers to shut them all down, then launched their version.

01:59:23.000 And I tried playing vanilla, and I'm like, they lost it, man.

01:59:28.000 It's not there.

01:59:29.000 All of the fun shenanigans were just lost.

01:59:31.000 I'm just going to harvest so many peace blooms until I want to blow my freaking brains out.

01:59:36.000 I'm like, what am I doing with my life?

01:59:37.000 I could be making a TV show.

01:59:38.000 They need to stop doing expansions and literally just do WoW 2 and start a new game from scratch, which is something new and fresh, because now the economy's ruined, the whole game makes no sense, and I just stopped playing it.

01:59:49.000 I played Legion, and then I've played like every expansion and then given up really quickly.

01:59:55.000 You know, I cannot find an MMO that's good.

01:59:58.000 I think it's got to be the next Evolution of video gaming, which is VRAR, where you are in the reality.

02:00:03.000 I really enjoy MMOs, but the cheating just drives me away every time.

02:00:07.000 Like, there's just so much cheating that goes on.

02:00:09.000 I play DayZ, for example, a lot, and just, like, cheater after cheater after cheater.

02:00:14.000 Like aim bots?

02:00:15.000 Yeah.

02:00:15.000 I just give up.

02:00:16.000 And they can see you through walls, and, you know, people doing, like, headshots from 200 meters with pistols.

02:00:23.000 Yeah, it's all cheating.

02:00:25.000 We'll grab a couple more here.

02:00:26.000 Okay.

02:00:27.000 MF Damien says, Rogan used to have a thick Boston accent and trained it out.

02:00:30.000 Maybe that's why.

02:00:31.000 Yeah.

02:00:32.000 He's got a unique voice.

02:00:33.000 It's like, you know, I don't know.

02:00:35.000 Some people could probably do it.

02:00:36.000 It's just some people are easier to impersonate than others.

02:00:38.000 A lot of it's the body, structure of the body. 0.93

02:00:40.000 So like, unless you have Rogan's body, you're not going to have that horny sound when it comes out of the mouth. 0.92

02:00:45.000 We got one more real quick. 0.91

02:00:47.000 Todd B says, have you heard the insane idea that they are floating of using brain dead women as surrogates?

02:00:52.000 Yes.

02:00:52.000 No, I've not heard that.

02:00:53.000 News story, they said women who are brain dead could donate their bodies for surrogacy.

02:00:58.000 I did read that this morning.

02:00:59.000 There's also this really innovative idea where they're talking about taking the wombs from transitioned young girls and implanting them in men who want to have the full female experience. 0.55

02:01:12.000 It obviously won't work, but that didn't stop the NIH in the UK from putting a bunch of money behind this plan.

02:01:17.000 They keep saying it, but men don't have the pelvis for this. 0.72

02:01:20.000 No, obviously not.

02:01:21.000 But the NIH was doing research and throwing money at it anyway.

02:01:24.000 It's like the Sex is a Spectrum stuff.

02:01:26.000 It's all this.

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02:02:02.000 Jeff, thanks for coming, man.

02:02:03.000 That was awesome.

02:02:04.000 I pray for your wife, your ex-wife, and your kids.

02:02:06.000 The best for everybody involved.

02:02:07.000 This is great.

02:02:08.000 Thank you.

02:02:09.000 It's really wonderful to see you, dude.

02:02:10.000 Thank you.

02:02:10.000 Yeah.

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02:02:14.000 I just had to grab the mic.

02:02:16.000 I was trying not to talk too much, and I pressed the wrong button.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 04, 2023

Timcast IRL - Virginia REFUSES To Ban Child Sex Changes, Jeff Younger Joins To Discuss His Story

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