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00:00:16.000 you project Veritas has reportedly fired the entirety of its

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00:00:43.000 Now, I don't know the full details.

00:00:44.000 We don't know exactly what that means.

00:00:46.000 There was a tweet that went out that said, SOS, Hannah Giles has fired everybody, but this is completely unsurprising.

00:00:51.000 They betrayed James O'Keefe, and it was only a matter of time before they ran out of money and were forced to fire everybody.

00:00:56.000 So, what we're hearing is that news operations and these individuals, they're all gone.

00:01:01.000 It's over.

00:01:02.000 And so that's the big breaking story that's happening right now, but we do have a lot to talk about.

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00:07:00.000 Here's the breaking news right now.

00:07:03.000 Project Veritas CEO reportedly fires all of the organization's staff.

00:07:08.000 The nonprofit has been plagued by internal turmoil for the last year following the termination of founder James O'Keefe.

00:07:14.000 The official Project Veritas X account shared the message, SOS, Hannah Giles just fired us all. 1.00

00:07:24.000 Such a weird goings-on.

00:07:26.000 An unnamed source confirmed to TimCast that the Project Veritas staff has been let go, and further claimed the chief financial officer for the non-profit has resigned.

00:07:33.000 The source told TimCast donations dried up, there was a massive drop in financial support, and the writing was on the wall for months.

00:07:40.000 Jack Posobiec, the senior editor at Human Events, also said a source had confirmed the validity of the message.

00:07:46.000 All of production, all of field ops, all of comms, all of legal, the source told Posobiec, according to an online post.

00:07:53.000 Only remaining are office admin, HR person, a couple development people, and IT.

00:07:59.000 The organization, which has been known for breaking a number of significant stories, had been plagued by administrative turmoil this year.

00:08:04.000 This is absolutely amazing to me, and predictable.

00:08:08.000 We knew it was only a matter of time.

00:08:10.000 The Postmillennial also has additional information.

00:08:13.000 Breaking exclusive chaos at Project Veritas.

00:08:15.000 Almost all employees have been laid off.

00:08:17.000 And they go on to add a little bit more here.

00:08:20.000 She came to all hands in April with her fat sidekick Ben Wetmore, and all they did for three days was talk-ish about James and relitigate all the terrible things he did to her and them 10-12 years ago.

00:08:34.000 I knew right then her entire agenda was revenge.

00:08:38.000 On-air talent Christian Hartsock James Lilino were both laid off after Giles told staff that a restructuring would be underway.

00:08:46.000 Kaylin Erickson, Jamie Phillips, Alyssa Dayan were also fired.

00:08:50.000 The terminations were done via Zoom call with HR.

00:08:52.000 With a few of those in the New York office, Giles did not make an appearance. 0.95

00:08:56.000 She's a lying sack of ish, a source told the Postmillennial. 1.00

00:08:59.000 No one respected her anyway. 0.98

00:09:00.000 Here's what I have to say about all this.

00:09:03.000 If you still worked at Project Veritas, I don't know, I got very little sympathy for you.

00:09:07.000 They came after founder and leader James O'Keefe.

00:09:12.000 They tried to strip him of everything he built.

00:09:16.000 And there were people who were a party to the knives in the back of James O'Keefe, who signed a letter calling him out.

00:09:22.000 So I just have to say, I'm not calling out anyone individually because I don't know who, but to all the people who stabbed James in the back and have now lost their jobs, Schadenfreude?

00:09:34.000 Like, this is what you deserve!

00:09:36.000 Did you think that this organization could survive without the man who built it and was doing the hard work and making the sacrifices to keep it up and running?

00:09:44.000 These people firmly believed they were the ones doing it all.

00:09:47.000 And surprise, surprise, the moment you betray your leader, all the money's gone, they bring in a shark who then nukes you.

00:09:57.000 Okay.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, it's been a wild year.

00:09:59.000 Do you guys remember that coup at Project Veritas?

00:10:02.000 The thing that stands out to me the most is that letter that was signed by like 16 employees.

00:10:06.000 They had all these, you know, they said that James is a tyrant.

00:10:09.000 He does all these terrible things.

00:10:10.000 They had all these examples.

00:10:12.000 One was that this donor felt like, you know, he hadn't been friendly to her or something.

00:10:16.000 And then afterwards that donor was like, that's not what happened.

00:10:18.000 That's not it at all.

00:10:19.000 Yeah, he was like short with some woman and then they were like, what are you talking about?

00:10:22.000 James was perfectly polite.

00:10:22.000 It was totally fine.

00:10:23.000 He stole a woman's sandwich.

00:10:24.000 So this group of people that said we can do it without him thought they could also hold on to the donors who were paying for James O'Keefe, right?

00:10:33.000 I mean, it was called Project Veritas, but it was James O'Keefe.

00:10:37.000 So the second he's gone...

00:10:39.000 What are you donating to?

00:10:41.000 It was his investigative journalism and tactics that people were watching.

00:10:45.000 He was the face of it.

00:10:46.000 The second that he was gone, I just don't understand what they thought would happen.

00:10:51.000 Today, I know you said this, according to the reporting, they were fired.

00:10:54.000 The bottom line is they ran out of money.

00:10:57.000 I don't know the finances, but let's stop kidding around.

00:11:00.000 Once he left, it dried up and at some point they said, we can't pay you anymore.

00:11:04.000 Call it what you will.

00:11:05.000 Why didn't they lead off with firing their development team?

00:11:07.000 Development people are supposed to raise money.

00:11:09.000 I think they have money, but I think money's not coming in.

00:11:12.000 Because if you look at their 990s, they had millions of dollars, and so what's probably happened is they probably looked at the finances and said, we got no donors, we got a couple million in the bank.

00:11:22.000 At this rate, we will be totally, you know, we'll be defunct, insolvent in six months.

00:11:29.000 So like, okay, fire everybody now, and Veritas will function to some degree for a few years.

00:11:35.000 But you know the funny thing is, I do believe, and obviously the O'Keefe Media Group that he started, these people bought into a mission, okay?

00:11:45.000 They wanted to see things exposed.

00:11:48.000 Without The project Veritas being any kind of an alternative, which right now, this is actually going to be a boon for him, I think, because they're going to go, OK, like, let's just go back to basics.

00:11:59.000 I mean, maybe he stole someone's sandwich, but the bottom line is what the point is, like, here's what we've invested in to begin with.

00:12:05.000 Let's go back to the OG.

00:12:06.000 Yeah, I think is the employees actually that are getting fired might actually.

00:12:11.000 Go work for O'Keefe Media Group.

00:12:14.000 They might want to go work for O'Keefe Media Group.

00:12:18.000 He's gonna do his own little investigative journalism and be like, I have a video of you, a tweet from you, and an email from you, and you're not working for me.

00:12:25.000 It reminds me of Alexander the Great when he was on campaign.

00:12:28.000 His men just got to the point where they were fed up.

00:12:29.000 We're like, we're leaving.

00:12:30.000 And he was like, fine, leave.

00:12:32.000 So they all He gave a speech and he was like, get out, go, go home, tell him you left me here.

00:12:37.000 And then a couple days went by and the men realized what they'd done and they went back to Alexander and begged to be let back.

00:12:43.000 Because they were starving and lost?

00:12:45.000 Maybe, maybe he gave this rousing speech and they all realized what they would really be leaving.

00:12:50.000 Here's what I think.

00:12:51.000 The speech is pretty incredible.

00:12:52.000 And so he took them back.

00:12:53.000 He took them back.

00:12:53.000 He's like, you're all my brothers.

00:12:55.000 This reminds me, this has a touch of the, an element of, Leftism.

00:13:00.000 Entitlement.

00:13:02.000 Arrogance.

00:13:03.000 James O'Keefe starts this organization.

00:13:05.000 He sacrifices.

00:13:06.000 He gets raided by the feds.

00:13:08.000 He gets sued over and over again.

00:13:10.000 He's the tip of the spear.

00:13:12.000 He's the front man of this organization, taking all the heat and working non-stop.

00:13:18.000 He brings people onto a system.

00:13:20.000 At some point, they get in their minds that he's the bad guy, and they should take over, and that they'd be fine without him.

00:13:27.000 And then it all comes crumbling down.

00:13:28.000 You know what I find fascinating, by the way?

00:13:31.000 So many times organizations like the one that James founded, you hear the founder at some point starts to grift.

00:13:39.000 They steal.

00:13:40.000 They get too big for themselves.

00:13:42.000 That was never the case.

00:13:45.000 Under him.

00:13:45.000 As big as they grew, as much money as they brought in.

00:13:48.000 There's not, I mean, to your point, like, this is a nitpicky thing that they went after him on, and I don't know all the claims, but it was never about stealing or living the high life or buying expensive cars.

00:13:59.000 A couple things were.

00:14:00.000 Okay.

00:14:01.000 Yeah, they claimed it like he paid his own wedding or something like that.

00:14:04.000 But, but, okay, and again, I'm not, but so many of these organizations are, get to that point where they, it topples on itself.

00:14:11.000 He stayed true to the mission.

00:14:13.000 Right.

00:14:14.000 And I think that that sort of is an interesting thing for me to watch because then he goes and does O'Keefe Media Group and it's like, all right.

00:14:20.000 And he seems to have at least getting back to getting enough people to help fund that.

00:14:24.000 But I just find it funny that these guys thought that they could do it without him.

00:14:28.000 If you have a heart issue, don't rip your heart out.

00:14:31.000 I mean, that's the, you gotta heal the thing, you know, have James sit down.

00:14:34.000 And to Tim's earlier point, if they're trying to keep this thing going for a year or two, you know, you fired your entire content team, like the people who are going to do the investigative journalism, which is theoretically what people were donating to support in the first place.

00:14:47.000 Now you have, what, an HR person and more people to fundraise?

00:14:50.000 Like, there's nothing there.

00:14:52.000 You have lost sight of your mission.

00:14:55.000 They're wearing Veritas like a skin suit and everyone can see right through it. 1.00

00:14:59.000 That's just it.

00:15:00.000 If James had been like, I'm gonna leave, if it was his decision and he was like, everyone continue to support this creation that I've been a part of, I think it would be fine.

00:15:07.000 I think people would have stayed on.

00:15:09.000 But they stabbed him in the back.

00:15:11.000 And a bunch of people who worked there signed a letter stabbing him in the back, despite the fact the letter said, some of us haven't been witness to any of this, nor have we ever been wronged by James O'Keefe, but we're signing the letter anyway.

00:15:21.000 And it's like, oh, I was waiting for this moment.

00:15:23.000 For these people to get their comeuppance.

00:15:26.000 I wonder how many of them.

00:15:27.000 Do you think James will hire any of them?

00:15:29.000 Some of them.

00:15:29.000 I bet some of them are probably just, you know, like, I don't have no idea.

00:15:32.000 I bet some of them are still in contact with James saying, I'm so sorry this happened.

00:15:36.000 People who didn't sign that letter accusing him of wrongdoing.

00:15:39.000 I gotta tell you, if I worked for Veritas...

00:15:42.000 And I was, uh, you know, out with James, whatever reason, and I bought myself the most delicious chicken bacon ranch sandwich.

00:15:49.000 And James walked up and says, I haven't eaten all day.

00:15:51.000 I need your sandwich, dude.

00:15:52.000 I'd be like, bro, no problem. 1.00

00:15:54.000 I'd be like, you're, you're, you're busting your ass. 0.99

00:15:55.000 You're working really hard. 0.99

00:15:57.000 I will go get another sandwich.

00:15:58.000 The idea that they signed this letter of abuse because he, he allegedly took a sandwich.

00:16:02.000 I'm just like, you people are so petty.

00:16:06.000 You know what, man?

00:16:06.000 I'm glad that he was able to get out, and I am glad that he was able to start, I believe, I believe OMG is a for-profit entity now.

00:16:14.000 Good.

00:16:15.000 Yeah, he owns it.

00:16:17.000 See, the problem with a non-profit, first of all, James deserves as much money as he decides for the work that he does.

00:16:24.000 And with a non-profit, you're limited.

00:16:26.000 Right?

00:16:27.000 You have to, when you're filling out paperwork, you have to sign how much people are going to get paid.

00:16:31.000 Are there going to be any employees who make more than six figures?

00:16:33.000 And I think the 990s showed that James was getting around $300k per year.

00:16:37.000 Leading a, what were they?

00:16:39.000 Like an eight-figure organization?

00:16:41.000 Some of the most influential with some of the most vital and important groundbreaking reporting?

00:16:45.000 The Amy Rohrbach story on Epstein?

00:16:48.000 And here's James O'Keefe getting, you know, like a mid-tier, like, VP salary level, which is, hey, it's good.

00:16:55.000 I'm not coming out, right?

00:16:57.000 $300,000 a year.

00:16:57.000 But the level of influence and work that he did, he should decide if he wants more.

00:17:02.000 But more importantly, if James wants to buy himself a Lamborghini, I hope he does.

00:17:06.000 He deserves it.

00:17:07.000 But as a for-profit organization, James can, without any question, without any board members, without any legal paperwork, choose to hire whoever he wants.

00:17:17.000 Fund whatever he wants, launch documentaries, do all of these things, and it's much, much easier and much, much more effective for him to do this.

00:17:24.000 He doesn't have to worry about now.

00:17:26.000 So they accuse him of taking too many black cars, vehicles to and from. 0.99

00:17:29.000 And I'm like, yeah, people want to kill this guy. 0.95

00:17:32.000 The least you can do is give him an Uber, you know, between locations. 0.89

00:17:36.000 And they're like, no, it's a waste of money.

00:17:38.000 He's not like an executive at St.

00:17:39.000 Jude's, right?

00:17:40.000 He needs more protection.

00:17:42.000 But get back to the nut of this.

00:17:43.000 The donors are giving it to because of him.

00:17:47.000 This is not like they installed this guy and said, wow, we brought you into this organization.

00:17:51.000 He built it.

00:17:52.000 The donors are buying into him and his work.

00:17:56.000 So if he wants to take a car here or there, to your point, Tim, about safety and just efficiency.

00:18:01.000 Comfort.

00:18:02.000 Yeah, but this is not, again, this isn't, it's not like they're like, by the way, he was taking a G5, you know, from, from DC to his place in the Hamptons.

00:18:11.000 This is, I want, I want a black car that I know that the driver's going to be safe, that I'm going to, this is not excess.

00:18:18.000 This is the benefit of a private organization.

00:18:21.000 having a private entity.

00:18:22.000 James will not be scrutinized for saying, hey, we have, so he came out here a couple of times

00:18:27.000 and in order to do so, they had to do a private charter.

00:18:31.000 I think a private charter for between here and New York round trip is like 10 to $13,000.

00:18:36.000 James is at this level, I've explained this to a lot of people, there's no way someone with the workload

00:18:42.000 of James O'Keefe is going to drive the six or seven hours down here to come on the show or drive back

00:18:48.000 or wait in the airport and dedicate a whole day or two to travel.

00:18:53.000 He's like, hey, I've got a bunch of meetings today, I can go on Tim Pool's show, we gotta get a private charter, we step in, we get the plane, we're there in an hour, boom, we're gone, we're back in New York the next day.

00:19:03.000 Certain levels of work and responsibility require things like this.

00:19:08.000 Now, don't get me wrong, like when the global elites are like, oh, this climate change is a big problem, but they're gonna fly in private jets.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, we can criticize that.

00:19:14.000 I'm not gonna criticize someone for saying the only way I can do this is if I get a private charter.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, I don't think the logistics of his career are that unreasonable, especially if he has that much to do.

00:19:24.000 I mean, he has a ton of risk because he isn't just like a non-profit leader.

00:19:30.000 He is a public face.

00:19:31.000 People are very angry with the work that he does.

00:19:33.000 There is more of a target on his back.

00:19:36.000 And I will say, I think this is sort of the problem with non-profits.

00:19:41.000 I think a lot of people start non-profits because they see, you know, People can donate to me, and it's a tax write-off, and then I can get support.

00:19:46.000 I don't know how I would make money off of this, but I do want to dedicate my life.

00:19:49.000 It's very mission-driven.

00:19:50.000 But non-profits are ultimately ruled by a board, and that can be detrimental, as we saw.

00:19:56.000 And they betrayed him.

00:19:57.000 Well, I can only say that it looks like OMG has been doing a lot of work.

00:20:02.000 They've got information, I guess James has posted, coming out of Fulton County, they've been doing investigations, and I think he is now untethered.

00:20:09.000 And I think he's going to be in better control and not have to worry about being betrayed in the future.

00:20:13.000 So good luck to him.

00:20:14.000 And, you know, you hate to see it.

00:20:16.000 Veritas was an institution.

00:20:17.000 It was it was a powerful force that was doing really good work.

00:20:20.000 And then it crumbled.

00:20:21.000 So it happens.

00:20:22.000 But let's jump to more modern political stuff.

00:20:25.000 The latest development in the Trump indictment out of Georgia.

00:20:28.000 This is from CBS 17.

00:20:30.000 Trump lawyers seek April 2026 trial date in federal election subversion case.

00:20:35.000 That's basically the story.

00:20:37.000 The suggested date is a dramatic counter to the DOJ, uh, to the Justice Department's recommendation last week of January 2nd.

00:20:43.000 Oh, I'm sorry, this is the federal judge.

00:20:45.000 I had this, uh, totally wrong.

00:20:46.000 This is not the Georgia case.

00:20:48.000 This is the federal election.

00:20:49.000 Wait, no, no, this is the federal election.

00:20:51.000 Why did they say a federal judge?

00:20:53.000 He's asking a federal judge to intervene?

00:20:55.000 Lawyers for Donald Trump asked a federal judge Thursday night to set an April 2026 trial date in the case in Washington, charging the former president with conspiring to... Okay, right, so this is the Jack Smith case.

00:21:05.000 So this is the D.C.

00:21:06.000 case, not the Georgia case.

00:21:09.000 Man, it's hard to keep track of all these indictments!

00:21:11.000 Woof! 0.98

00:21:12.000 I thought this was Georgia!

00:21:13.000 There's four.

00:21:14.000 But this, I mean, look, the reality is that...

00:21:17.000 They've got to figure out something here because you can't have the leading candidate for the Republican nomination who's leading Joe Biden having to deal with, I mean, they can't have it both ways.

00:21:27.000 I think the one thing that is lost in this whole discussion, and I watched one of the media organizations today try to excuse this, but the reality is every one of those four cases Happened the the issue that he's being charged with happened years ago.

00:21:42.000 Why did all four now happen?

00:21:45.000 It's weird, Ty.

00:21:48.000 But I'm sitting here watching this Fulton County DA go after him for an event that happened two and a half years ago.

00:21:56.000 Why did it take—and oh, by the way, it just so happens to sequence right after Jack Smith's case, which just happened to sequence after Jack Smith's other case, which happened to sequence right after Alvin Bragdy.

00:22:05.000 All of these events happened two and a half years ago.

00:22:08.000 If what Trump did was so bad, what new has occurred?

00:22:11.000 Nothing.

00:22:12.000 In Georgia, the court published the indictments against Trump before the grand jury convened.

00:22:17.000 But that was a mistake.

00:22:18.000 Sure.

00:22:19.000 First, it said it was fictitious.

00:22:20.000 Then they said we hit the wrong button.

00:22:22.000 Right.

00:22:23.000 But then why did you cut the document off?

00:22:25.000 Donald Trump came out.

00:22:26.000 I haven't seen the video, but I saw someone tweeting about it.

00:22:29.000 Apparently Donald Trump said that everyone else should drop out of the GOP primary race.

00:22:34.000 That, uh, they should all, we should all be united.

00:22:36.000 And, uh, let me see if, actually, let me, let me, let me pull up the, uh, I can, I can actually try and pull this, uh, video up.

00:22:43.000 So, someone asked, I want to make sure I get the person who asked right, I'll play the video for you guys.

00:22:48.000 I didn't pull it up before, but I'll pull it up now.

00:22:51.000 And, uh, let's see, where are we at?

00:22:54.000 Did I not, did it not go through?

00:22:55.000 Maybe it didn't go through on my Twitter.

00:22:57.000 So, Trump apparently said that everyone should drop out.

00:23:01.000 And I think that's correct.

00:23:03.000 I believe that all of the Republicans should drop out of the race.

00:23:07.000 Trump should be the only one.

00:23:08.000 And the question is, but what happens when they remove Trump from the ballots in various states?

00:23:14.000 I think Trump should put that decision dilemma to the Democrats to say, there is no one else running for the GOP.

00:23:22.000 It is Biden or Trump or Newsom or Trump, whatever it's going to be.

00:23:25.000 And they would have to remove Republican from the ballots.

00:23:30.000 Outright, if they want to remove Trump.

00:23:32.000 Right now, if there's other contenders, there's a safety net.

00:23:36.000 If it's Ron DeSantis or Vivek or anybody else, if they remove Trump from the ballot, they'll put on some other Republican, so that way the people who are there perceive this option.

00:23:46.000 I think that's a decision dilemma.

00:23:48.000 Either they're stopped from removing Trump, or they're forced to take such an extreme and egregious action, they will shock people to their cores.

00:23:59.000 Well, I mean, I think the analysis might be right, but the reality is each of these guys who are running think somehow that Trump's going to fall and they're going to be the next person.

00:24:07.000 That's what's keeping them in the race.

00:24:08.000 I mean, they all know.

00:24:10.000 I don't want to get ahead of the debate discussion if we get there tonight, but I get asked every day, should Trump go to the debate?

00:24:15.000 I go, he's at 54% in the real clear average of polls.

00:24:19.000 Most of these folks need a name tag for you to know who they are, right?

00:24:22.000 So why should he get on the stage?

00:24:23.000 And the same thing is true.

00:24:25.000 They're all hoping.

00:24:26.000 that what you're saying to him happens that he goes down and they become the number two or the

00:24:31.000 number three the reality is that's all they're hoping for they know they can't win i mean no

00:24:35.000 one in their right mind anyone who just has second grade math says he's at 54 i'm trying to get to one

00:24:42.000 i get it And that's, even if you start breaking it down by the states, Iowa, New Hampshire, it's not, so they know, their only hope is that he falls down and gets removed or something, or gets... Viveka has said no way to that, and Viveka's publicly resisting that, saying, I don't want to win that way, I want to win on the merits, and that we can't handle this, we can't handle this way.

00:25:02.000 So, the tweet was from Jesse Kelly, but I want to play first the clip from Donald Trump.

00:25:05.000 Here's what Trump had to say.

00:25:06.000 Great polls just out, leading by 40, 50, and even 60 points.

00:25:12.000 Who expected that?

00:25:13.000 I did.

00:25:14.000 Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, all very strong, but also leading Biden very big.

00:25:21.000 The sanctimonious is crashing, perhaps The party should come together.

00:25:26.000 People should drop out of the race. 0.99

00:25:28.000 We unify and we beat Biden and the Democrats.

00:25:32.000 They should be easy to beat because our country has never been in worse condition than it is right now.

00:25:39.000 Thank you.

00:25:40.000 So this tweet from Jesse Kelly says, someone explained to me like I'm 10 years old, how does anyone dropping out help Trump stay out of prison?

00:25:46.000 Please be specific.

00:25:48.000 If everyone drops out, what do we do when the communists in Michigan and Pennsylvania keep him off the general election ballot?

00:25:53.000 My response was it creates a decision dilemma for the Dems.

00:25:55.000 They either cancel the GOP entirely or they keep Trump on.

00:25:59.000 Taking his name off would be apocalyptic.

00:26:01.000 With others in the race, they get a safety net for nuking Trump.

00:26:05.000 This goes back to what you said a moment ago, and this is what we were talking about.

00:26:08.000 I don't, here's the deal.

00:26:10.000 I think that you're right.

00:26:11.000 It's this apoplectic decision.

00:26:14.000 I don't think they care.

00:26:15.000 I think that they will do what, and this gets back to the nut of what I've been saying, is that they don't care.

00:26:20.000 They will do whatever it takes to maintain power.

00:26:22.000 Then force them into a risky position.

00:26:25.000 And what happens when we, this is my question, what happens when we lose, meaning that they say, great, we're going to remove them, we're going to jail them, and then we're going to make sure that Biden wins because... No, because you need to avoid the frogs boiling in the pot scenario.

00:26:40.000 If Donald Trump is taken off the ballot and there are three people standing behind him, then the ballot in Michigan still has Republican and Democrat on it.

00:26:49.000 But if the ballot has a single party and no one else, that is such a massive leap.

00:26:55.000 The problem we're experiencing right now, we mentioned this in the beginning of the show, Every day, people say, oh, that can't happen, that would go too far.

00:27:03.000 Let's go way back in time.

00:27:05.000 And I bring this up all the time.

00:27:05.000 When I said in 2018 that the street conflicts we are seeing between Proud Boys and Antifa were a track towards civil war, and people laughed, saying a bunch of goons fighting in the street is not a civil war.

00:27:15.000 And I said, yes, but the sentiments held by these people will keep spreading, eventually find their ways into government.

00:27:20.000 And they said, that will never happen.

00:27:22.000 The security state will not allow it.

00:27:23.000 Where are we today?

00:27:25.000 We're well past that point.

00:27:27.000 Not only did you have the 2020 Summer of Love riots where they firebombed, they tried firebombing the White House.

00:27:33.000 The President was forced into a bunker.

00:27:34.000 You then get January 6th.

00:27:36.000 You then get Donald Trump being indicted several times.

00:27:39.000 Every.

00:27:40.000 Single.

00:27:40.000 Time.

00:27:41.000 Someone has suggested that something like this could happen.

00:27:43.000 People have just, across the board, across Twitter, saying, no, that'll never happen.

00:27:47.000 But that goes to the point.

00:27:48.000 That's my, that's what I'm saying.

00:27:49.000 You're absolutely right.

00:27:51.000 So why is this time?

00:27:52.000 Let me explain.

00:27:53.000 So what's happening is, every action they take is them cranking up the temperature by one degree.

00:27:59.000 You don't notice you're boiling.

00:28:01.000 Now that they've indicted Trump's lawyers, like Jenna Ellis was indicted simply for being his lawyer, counts one and two, being party to a criminal organization and violation of public oath of office or whatever.

00:28:12.000 Quite literally, Just being his lawyer.

00:28:15.000 There are people on the indictment list where it's like, they reached out to a state elector and said, bada bada.

00:28:20.000 They reached out to a lawyer and said this.

00:28:22.000 No, she's just a lawyer. 1.00

00:28:24.000 When people said Trump wouldn't be indicted, Mike Cernovich brings this up.

00:28:28.000 He's like, they're gonna indict Trump.

00:28:30.000 All of these people on Twitter, these prominent conservatives are like, no, they won't, it won't happen.

00:28:33.000 Then when it does, oh, Trump gets indicted for what?

00:28:37.000 Tax paperwork?

00:28:38.000 Some campaign contribution?

00:28:40.000 That's not even a big deal.

00:28:41.000 The next day, it's classified documents.

00:28:43.000 Okay, well, that's, you know, it's not that big a deal.

00:28:46.000 Then it's trying to subvert the election.

00:28:48.000 Now, they're going after his lawyers.

00:28:49.000 What's happening is, they're incrementing it to such a degree that when they- now that they're at the point where they've indicted lawyers for constitutionally protected legal work, people are acting like it's no big deal.

00:29:01.000 Yes.

00:29:01.000 So, what you have to do is put the Democrats in a situation where they either take ten steps forward or two steps back.

00:29:09.000 And 10 steps forward is like cranking the temperature up past 400 degrees when all of a sudden the frogs shriek and jump out of the pot.

00:29:18.000 Imagine what would happen in Michigan if your run-of-the-mill, bumbling, dotted Republican voter, who doesn't pay attention, goes and looks at the ballot and there's not a single Republican option. 0.97

00:29:28.000 Or the president just says Joe Biden.

00:29:31.000 That person goes, what?

00:29:34.000 See, this is where I'll disagree with you.

00:29:36.000 Because I think that what happens is the media and the establishment and Hollywood and everything else they own says, well, unfortunately, he committed these crimes and he wasn't allowed to do it in the Republican Party bubble.

00:29:46.000 I mean, they do what they do.

00:29:48.000 I get your point.

00:29:49.000 They've turned it up 10 notches.

00:29:50.000 That doesn't change anything.

00:29:52.000 Make them Excise the Republican Party from the election.

00:29:56.000 Force them to outright say you have one choice or no choice.

00:30:01.000 It's the same thing.

00:30:02.000 Make them say it.

00:30:03.000 Okay.

00:30:05.000 Let's play it out for a second.

00:30:06.000 They say it.

00:30:08.000 The election happens and they go, see, we did have an election.

00:30:11.000 Unfortunately, the Republicans had nominated a guy that was in jail and we had to remove him from the ballot.

00:30:15.000 And so Joe Biden has been dutifully elected president of the United States for a second time.

00:30:20.000 And oh, by the way, this is where Kamala's coming in. 1.00

00:30:21.000 I don't know exactly what happens when they- But when does rea- This is what I'm trying to get at.

00:30:28.000 When does- When does- The frogs jump out of the pot.

00:30:32.000 They go, oh my god, there's only one party and this is what they're doing to us.

00:30:35.000 What's the recourse?

00:30:37.000 How do we undo what they did?

00:30:38.000 This is the problem.

00:30:40.000 Your example about the streets. 0.81

00:30:41.000 Everything else is spot on and everybody goes, holy crap, but we're not... Even for all the stuff that they've done and where we are in society, no one's turning back and saying, we've got to undo it now.

00:30:51.000 Gosh, look at how hot it got in the pot. 0.92

00:30:54.000 And I think they turn it up a bunch of notches, we freak out, but then we go, what's the recourse?

00:30:58.000 We go, oh it's too late, sorry, next election.

00:31:00.000 So the reason, I believe the reason Democrats are taking actions as extreme is because they know they've lost the culture war.

00:31:05.000 Yes!

00:31:06.000 But my point is- But that means what they're doing is irrelevant!

00:31:09.000 Laws are only enforced on the confidence of the people.

00:31:13.000 And they're losing confidence of people.

00:31:15.000 If they take one party off the ballot outright, confidence evaporates overnight.

00:31:20.000 But see, I think that what your example was right.

00:31:23.000 They don't go, hey, in all 50 states, there's no Trump, right?

00:31:26.000 It's Michigan, Pennsylvania.

00:31:28.000 And so it just prevents him from getting a 270.

00:31:31.000 We did have an election.

00:31:32.000 So what?

00:31:33.000 So here's my point.

00:31:34.000 So what is, they declare him, they go through the same exercise where the Congress certifies it and they said, sorry guys, next time you should nominate somebody.

00:31:43.000 Won't happen.

00:31:44.000 You don't think it'll happen?

00:31:45.000 That will not, no way.

00:31:47.000 As bad as 2020 was in terms of how many members of Congress challenged the results and demanded action, And whatever you think of January 6th, we had something on January 6th.

00:31:58.000 2024 will not go down like that, especially if they remove Trump from the ballot in one state and just one state.

00:32:03.000 My point is this.

00:32:04.000 The only reason they get away with anything they do is because people believe they can.

00:32:10.000 So, uh, the example I like to give is that women aren't legally allowed to skydive in Florida on Sundays. 0.95

00:32:15.000 Not a single cop is going to arrest a woman for skydiving in Florida on Sunday.

00:32:18.000 Why?

00:32:19.000 Because the culture will not allow it.

00:32:21.000 We have tons of laws in the books that never get enforced.

00:32:23.000 It's illegal to do these drag performances with children in a bunch of these states.

00:32:27.000 Ain't no cop stopping them.

00:32:28.000 Why?

00:32:29.000 Because of the culture.

00:32:30.000 Because the cops are like, I don't want to get involved.

00:32:33.000 The sentiment of the people matters more than what the letter of the law says.

00:32:36.000 See, just to bring this back though for a second, here's what I think.

00:32:40.000 I get where you're going with this, but I think that there's also a reality of where I, in my opinion, think things are headed now, which is that either in DC or Georgia, they get a conviction.

00:32:53.000 And what they do is they don't take them off the ballot, right?

00:32:56.000 This is my take on this.

00:32:57.000 But they basically create an environment to say, Republicans, you guys, do you really want to elect a guy that's going to be in jail?

00:33:04.000 And so the elections are such that Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are all within 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%.

00:33:11.000 You don't need to get 500,000 people.

00:33:16.000 Against the president.

00:33:17.000 You need 10, 20, 40.

00:33:19.000 Michigan was won in 2015 by Trump by 10,703 votes.

00:33:23.000 That's it.

00:33:24.000 They get that they just need a little movement of the needle and they win.

00:33:28.000 They win Michigan.

00:33:29.000 They win.

00:33:29.000 So what I think they're really doing is ensuring that they get a conviction in Washington DC and or in Fulton County, Georgia and that they can spread the message that you guys are gonna elect a guy who can't get himself out of jail.

00:33:41.000 I don't And that to me is actually a worse scenario because they will let Republicans infight on that whether or not, and they don't have to remove him from the ballot.

00:33:52.000 I don't see that being as successful.

00:33:55.000 That is a Pyrrhic victory.

00:33:57.000 If Democrats have to win using these methods, they're eroding the American people's confidence in the system to function, and that will destroy them.

00:34:05.000 That's my point.

00:34:06.000 Correct.

00:34:07.000 And that's how they lose.

00:34:08.000 Yes.

00:34:09.000 They have to maintain legitimacy.

00:34:12.000 Yeah, but see, here's my point.

00:34:14.000 You talked about the legitimacy.

00:34:15.000 Look where we are now.

00:34:16.000 You pointed out where we are in the streets.

00:34:18.000 And they're doing it because of their desperation.

00:34:20.000 Right.

00:34:21.000 Examples.

00:34:21.000 Bud Light.

00:34:23.000 30% drop off in their stock.

00:34:25.000 $400 million lost target.

00:34:27.000 27% drop off in their stock.

00:34:28.000 For the first time in six years, they're dropping in sales.

00:34:31.000 Meanwhile, Sound of Freedom surpasses Indiana Jones.

00:34:34.000 Disney now facing major boycotts.

00:34:36.000 Rich Men North of Richmond to debut at number one.

00:34:39.000 Because people are starting to push back culturally, and they're losing.

00:34:44.000 So the only thing they have left is raw power.

00:34:47.000 It won't work.

00:34:48.000 So let's ask Republicans over the past 10 years if political power did anything for them with no cultural power.

00:34:53.000 On the Sound of Freedom and on Target, just to keep it one-on-one here, you're absolutely right.

00:34:57.000 Sound of Freedom, probably closing on to $200 million right now.

00:35:02.000 People went out, saw the movie, spread the word, we won.

00:35:06.000 Target, same thing.

00:35:07.000 People were disgusted by what they saw, said, I'm not shopping in there.

00:35:09.000 But here's the question.

00:35:11.000 Let's look at Target.

00:35:12.000 Who lost their job?

00:35:16.000 My guess is a bunch of cashiers.

00:35:18.000 But that's my point, is that this is what scares me. 1.00

00:35:21.000 Is that in any normal world, a decade ago, you would have fired that CEO and said, what a moron. 1.00

00:35:26.000 You're out. 1.00

00:35:27.000 You know who got fired at Bud Light?

00:35:29.000 Yeah.

00:35:29.000 The marketing team.

00:35:30.000 No, no, no.

00:35:31.000 Just to be clear.

00:35:32.000 They didn't get fired.

00:35:33.000 They're on leave.

00:35:33.000 No, no, they were fired.

00:35:34.000 Okay.

00:35:35.000 All right, so.

00:35:35.000 The leave was a lie, reportedly.

00:35:37.000 Fine.

00:35:37.000 But here's my point.

00:35:38.000 Five people lost.

00:35:39.000 Twenty-six, what, billion dollars lost.

00:35:43.000 And five people lose their job.

00:35:45.000 You've got everyone else in the leaderships?

00:35:46.000 Well, no.

00:35:48.000 Bud Light was forced to sell off their craft brew brands to a Canadian company.

00:35:52.000 But my point is- And they're shutting down several of their plants and tons of- Okay, so let's take this- If Ian starts blowing up Timcast, you're gonna get- You know, 20 minutes later, he's out.

00:36:04.000 Where's the accountability?

00:36:05.000 I mean, yes, they fired the marketing team.

00:36:07.000 That's cowardice.

00:36:09.000 They fired the people who did the thing.

00:36:10.000 Why don't you think their board demands action then?

00:36:13.000 But that's- this is where I get- I mean, this is my worry.

00:36:16.000 That doesn't matter.

00:36:17.000 It does!

00:36:18.000 Because this is the point that you're- I don't care what Bud Light does.

00:36:21.000 Bud Light could rehire the marketing VPs and they could go and juggle bottles in the middle of Times Square for all I care. 0.99

00:36:26.000 The fact is, what we've learned from this is that the American people are turning things around.

00:36:31.000 Right.

00:36:31.000 That's all that matters.

00:36:32.000 But what I'm worried about, what I'm trying to say is that you're right.

00:36:35.000 I agree with you on principle.

00:36:37.000 The problem I have is that Target, you look at that, the CEOs and the top folks there, somebody should have paid the consequence for this, right?

00:36:45.000 Who cares?

00:36:46.000 Because what I'm trying to do is make an analogy to the Democratic Party here and say these guys keep going over and over and over again, right?

00:36:52.000 No one's demanding that Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries or whatever go, hey guys, you're guiding us down a path Of losing.

00:37:01.000 It is good that they stay on.

00:37:03.000 It is good that they're not doing that.

00:37:06.000 If you've got a guy who's driving your, if the Democrats are driving their bus off a cliff, then we should be saying like, well, it's unfortunate that's their leadership.

00:37:15.000 Again, I agree with you.

00:37:17.000 I'm like, hey, let's keep them on board.

00:37:18.000 I love it.

00:37:19.000 But this is what I'm trying to get at.

00:37:21.000 When The point that I thought you were making is that at some point they're going to blow themselves out, right?

00:37:26.000 Because they've gone too far.

00:37:28.000 My question is, when is that?

00:37:30.000 It's not that they've gone too far.

00:37:32.000 They already went too far.

00:37:34.000 It's done.

00:37:35.000 Now they only have the exercise of raw power.

00:37:38.000 They're desperate for Trump supporters to act out and do something.

00:37:42.000 And as long as we just keep listening to good songs like Rich Men North of Richmond and stop buying Bud Light and shopping at Target, eventually they lose their power, they lose their confidence, they're becoming desperate.

00:37:54.000 Already we're seeing corporations drop ESG in name because they know it's bad for their bottom line.

00:38:01.000 What's happening now culturally is victory.

00:38:05.000 They're saying that Disney's gonna, Disney lose nearly two billion or something like that off their past several releases.

00:38:11.000 They're failing.

00:38:11.000 The Flash, one of the biggest box office bombs in history.

00:38:15.000 These institutions are in free fall.

00:38:17.000 At the same time, Angel Studios with Sound of Freedom, not just that, The Chosen.

00:38:21.000 The Chosen.

00:38:21.000 It's huge.

00:38:22.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 Success across the board.

00:38:25.000 You add on to the fact of what, something I've been saying for quite a bit, The left is more likely to abort their children and sterilize their children.

00:38:32.000 No matter what you think about indoctrination of kids, the math is absolute.

00:38:37.000 There is a rate of attrition among leftists that does not exist among the right, which means 20 years from now, it's going to be 2 to 1 conservative to liberal voters, even with indoctrination.

00:38:48.000 And not to mention, conservatives are pushing back on the indoctrination.

00:38:52.000 So what I see with Democrats, the indictment of Donald Trump, they're behind the scenes crying, looking at their assets in Hollywood failing.

00:39:01.000 Their PR campaigns don't work. 0.98

00:39:03.000 Their woke garbage movies are being mocked and ridiculed. 0.98

00:39:06.000 The celebrities, many of them are turning and being like, I don't want to be involved in this. 0.99

00:39:10.000 Dana Carvey puts out a video mocking vaccines.

00:39:13.000 And people are starting to say, oh, they're based, Russell Brand, Hollywood celebrity, now he's, they're calling him a, he's right wing now!

00:39:19.000 It's like, dude, the leftists, they're losing, right?

00:39:21.000 The only thing they have left is the cudgel.

00:39:24.000 It's not going to work.

00:39:25.000 So that's why I say, Donald Trump should be the nominee.

00:39:28.000 The other nominees, I think, should drop out.

00:39:30.000 I agree with Trump on this.

00:39:31.000 I'm not like 100% saying, everyone get out of here!

00:39:33.000 I'm saying, like, there's a good point to be made.

00:39:35.000 That if everyone drops out, and then Democrats are forced to use the nuclear option of removing Trump from the ballot, that means there will be no Republican.

00:39:44.000 Now, maybe they'll put a fake Republican there, or they'll just write Republican or something, but that would be so shocking, it would strike at the core of whatever legitimacy they claim to have right now.

00:39:53.000 I just don't think they care.

00:39:54.000 I think they do whatever they- I don't care if they care!

00:39:56.000 Oh, I don't care if Bud Light hires- No, no, no, but what I'm saying is, I think that you're right, but it's, they're like, they think in two and four year increments.

00:40:05.000 So they're like, great, we'll get past this election, then we'll deal with it.

00:40:07.000 It's somebody else's problem if we completely blow this up.

00:40:09.000 And then what'll happen is, eight years from now, they'll be saying, we can't muster up 30% of the vote.

00:40:14.000 What happened?

00:40:15.000 It's like, we weren't paying attention to what was going on around us.

00:40:18.000 What'll happen is you'll get Democrats starting to change- Can you wait eight years?

00:40:22.000 I'm not saying nothing will happen between them.

00:40:24.000 I'm saying that's when they don't exist anymore.

00:40:27.000 We're already at the point where you have RFK polling at 20% among Democrats, and RFK is actually trying to bring on conservatives into his advisory board, into his campaign, because he wants cross-country appeal.

00:40:39.000 We're already seeing that among Democrats.

00:40:41.000 They're fed up with this.

00:40:42.000 So I think whatever, Chuck Schumer's, the Pelosi's, these people, they have, they were on a ship, headed straight into rough seas, and they sat back eating their $15 ice cream, and now they're caught in the storm and they can't get out.

00:40:55.000 Can I just give you the quick political, I can't help myself sometimes, because I think to your point about where this thing ends up, right now Trump is leading an eye, the only way that Trump is not the nominee is if somebody Actually can beat him in an early state, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, right?

00:41:09.000 No.

00:41:09.000 Right now, exactly.

00:41:10.000 And that's, so this gets to your point, is in 2015 there were 29 days between the Iowa caucuses and Super Tuesday, right?

00:41:20.000 This time there will be 50 days.

00:41:22.000 Why does that matter?

00:41:22.000 Campaigns need the equivalent of gas.

00:41:24.000 What's gas?

00:41:25.000 Money, volunteers.

00:41:27.000 No one is going to stick with a candidate they can't Defeat the nominee that can't actually accumulate delegates.

00:41:33.000 And so this gets back to what Hannah and you guys, we were all talking about before.

00:41:36.000 Understanding how this is going to play out and Tim's going to get his wish because going into Super Tuesday in March, these guys can't sustain themselves.

00:41:43.000 No one's going to give someone at 1% or 2% money or wake up and answer the phones and put up signs.

00:41:51.000 And so Trump, in my estimation, will be the nominee by the time he hits Super Tuesday in early March.

00:41:56.000 So you're going to get your scenario.

00:41:59.000 Politically speaking, because there's no one right now that can actually take them on.

00:42:03.000 The only caveat that I've always put is that Iowa is an organizing state, meaning it takes about 50,000 people to win the caucuses.

00:42:09.000 DeSantis' team claim that they have just over 10,000 people that have signed caucus commitment cards.

00:42:15.000 If DeSantis can't do that in Iowa, it's over.

00:42:18.000 What do you think about Ramaswamy?

00:42:20.000 I'm impressed with, I think, as a political novice, as somebody who's been doing this 30 years, I look at how he's conducting himself, the campaign that he's built, and it's impressive.

00:42:30.000 Do I think he can win?

00:42:31.000 No.

00:42:32.000 He's sort of like that quarterback that you look at the beginning of the season and say, is he going to start or win a Super Bowl?

00:42:36.000 No.

00:42:37.000 But that's the guy I want to keep my eye on.

00:42:38.000 And he's the kind of guy that I could see Trump picking as a VP.

00:42:42.000 He's the kind of guy that I could see running in 2028.

00:42:44.000 I am impressed with the organization that he's putting on.

00:42:48.000 I'm impressed with the message and the following.

00:42:50.000 The thing that's really interesting for all these whiners that won't make the debate stage. 0.99

00:42:55.000 Vivek has raised, of the total that he's raised, 2.7 million, according to his last thing, from donors.

00:43:00.000 He's at 6%.

00:43:01.000 He's ahead of the former Vice President of the United States, who is a governor and a multi-term leadership congressman.

00:43:08.000 This just shows you that if you have a good message and run a good campaign, you can succeed.

00:43:13.000 He is proof to all the whiners that won't make the stage that it's you, buddy.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, that's my vibe.

00:43:19.000 I think Trump is so popular that it's challenging to get the name recognition at this point against an incumbent, essentially an incumbent president, even though he didn't serve this last term.

00:43:28.000 I want to talk about where this Georgia indictment goes because I think one of the most important things to consider We've been mentioning it several times.

00:43:37.000 Every time someone suggests the Democrats may go one step further, we're told, no, that would be too far.

00:43:42.000 They won't do it.

00:43:44.000 I think there is a strong possibility that if Donald Trump surrenders in Georgia, they will remand him to custody and sever his communications.

00:43:54.000 I've heard people say, oh that's crazy, they wouldn't do it, they're not going to remand him.

00:43:57.000 Why not?

00:43:59.000 Think about what they're doing right now in going after someone's lawyers.

00:44:04.000 If you were to tell me that Donald Trump would be indicted, let's say a year and a half ago, Trump's going to be indicted, I'd be like, well I wouldn't put it past him.

00:44:11.000 If you then came to me and said, yes, they're also going to indict his lawyers, I'd be like, what?

00:44:15.000 Now that's a step too far.

00:44:17.000 If you said, okay, they're not going to indict his lawyers, but when they indict him, they are going to put him in jail and revoke bail.

00:44:22.000 I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

00:44:23.000 They're arresting him.

00:44:24.000 So why would we assume that it is more reasonable to expect his lawyers and former administration staff to be indicted under RICO charges than to assume that it would be less like Why would we assume the probability lies not with him being remanded to custody and the probability lies with lawyers being indicted?

00:44:45.000 What worries me more than anything, and this gets at your point, is that this Fulton County DA doesn't have anyone to answer to, right?

00:44:54.000 And by the way, Governor Kemp down there and George is not doing Trump any favors.

00:44:58.000 So the point is, if she goes down the route that you're talking about, Tim, that's where people have to understand that I think she doesn't care.

00:45:04.000 She's a Democrat that has no There's nothing in her that cares what Donald Trump or anyone else thinks.

00:45:10.000 She wants to be a hero to the left, and I think that gives merit to exactly what you're saying, is that she's like, I can be a hero.

00:45:16.000 I'm the guy that's going to put Donald Trump behind bars.

00:45:18.000 I'm going to get the mugshot, and it'll be me.

00:45:21.000 I will be the hero to the progressive left doing this, and I don't have to worry about answering anybody.

00:45:25.000 I don't answer to DOJ.

00:45:27.000 I don't answer.

00:45:27.000 So I think that to what you're getting at, this is going to be the key moment.

00:45:32.000 When he goes to Georgia, and he will, What happens then?

00:45:36.000 Because they're going to do things to him in the last three that haven't happened and everyone's going to go, oh my gosh!

00:45:42.000 I hope he gets remanded to custody.

00:45:43.000 And I think people need to realize Trump said, I need one more indictment to win the presidency.

00:45:49.000 I wonder if Trump is surrendering because he gets this, that every time the Democrats take these extreme actions, they are stripping themselves of the confidence of the American people.

00:45:58.000 that people are starting to view what they're doing as illegitimate. You've got even some

00:46:03.000 percentage of Democrats who feel that the charges are overtly political or going, you know, way too

00:46:08.000 far. So Trump may be thinking in this, in this day and age, we're in the victimhood, you know,

00:46:15.000 era or whatever.

00:46:17.000 The idea is if you want to win a fight, you don't throw a punch, you wait to get punched and then scream, help, help, I'm being oppressed.

00:46:24.000 So Donald Trump says, hey, I'm obeying the law, goes, you know, and goes through the arraignment, the arrest process, the mugshot, and then uses this to say, They are evil and corrupt, and their only path to victory is through violating our social norms.

00:46:40.000 Never in this country's history has a president targeted his political opponent.

00:46:45.000 Trump's going to weaponize this for fundraising and for sentiment and to strip the Democratic voter of confidence.

00:46:51.000 Look, I think that the point that I'm taking away from this is that what happens in those 20 minutes after he shows up is going to be really interesting.

00:47:01.000 I mean, they're almost giddy.

00:47:03.000 That sheriff was like, you know, he's definitely going to go to mugshot.

00:47:06.000 Like, what do you need a mugshot for?

00:47:09.000 The most famous man in the world does not need a mugshot.

00:47:11.000 That way they can fundraise for the rest of their political career.

00:47:15.000 Exactly.

00:47:15.000 You're spot on.

00:47:16.000 This is all about trying to be the most progressive person out there.

00:47:22.000 They're all vying.

00:47:22.000 The sheriff's trying to outdo the DA, the DA's trying to outdo this.

00:47:26.000 That's what worries me more than anything else.

00:47:30.000 When Alvin Bragg did his first indictment, As a non-lawyer, I was talking to some folks that are very well-versed in this whole stuff, and I said, here's what I don't get.

00:47:38.000 You know, this venue, how do you mix it?

00:47:40.000 And they said, Sean, I want you to understand something.

00:47:42.000 Ever since Trump became president, it's like the rules have changed.

00:47:47.000 What normally would have made sense, you would have said, okay, this isn't the right venue, that this is, they don't have standing, this, that, the other thing.

00:47:52.000 They go, Katie, bar the door, baby. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Judges don't care anymore. 0.98

00:47:55.000 It's like, oh, it's Trump, or you're a Trump associate, or we're going after, okay.

00:47:59.000 Like, things that would have never passed the smell test, Four or five years ago, and that's what worries me.

00:48:06.000 That's why I say Civil War. 0.96

00:48:08.000 The only thing we're... So, Stephen Marsh says we're in this period of civil strife.

00:48:14.000 Civil strife is a period before civil war when there's a certain number of political deaths that occur every year.

00:48:19.000 And we've exceeded that number over the past few years.

00:48:22.000 So, by the actual historical metric, the argument is the experts say we are entering a civil war and we don't know when it will start or what will kick it off.

00:48:32.000 My view is that's probably true and correct and it's a fair assessment.

00:48:36.000 But there is also the consideration of fourth and fifth generational warfare, which is psychological operations and manipulation.

00:48:42.000 If the Democrats are doing as exactly as you described, they are saying the rule of law doesn't matter.

00:48:48.000 The Constitution doesn't matter.

00:48:49.000 We don't we don't care about what your witness says.

00:48:52.000 I mean, look, in in Georgia, they released the indictment on Trump before the grand jury even voted.

00:48:57.000 They clearly have fabricated this for political purposes.

00:49:01.000 But this is the thing that I find fascinating, right?

00:49:04.000 They post it, and then they lie about it, right?

00:49:07.000 They literally were like, oh, that was a fictitious document.

00:49:12.000 Then it comes out again, and then they get caught lying again about what it was.

00:49:16.000 This is what blows my mind.

00:49:17.000 No one cared!

00:49:19.000 I don't think that's true.

00:49:21.000 Let me try this.

00:49:21.000 France didn't care, right?

00:49:24.000 The people of France didn't care at all that this information came out.

00:49:29.000 This is what the... and I know that...

00:49:30.000 Let me try this. France didn't care, right? 0.80

00:49:32.000 The people of France didn't care at all that this information came out.

00:49:37.000 Right.

00:49:37.000 That's how you need to start viewing the Democrats.

00:49:39.000 Right.

00:49:40.000 They do not care about the Constitution, about your voting process.

00:49:46.000 They wrote an article in Time Magazine called The Shadow Campaign to Fortify the Election, and they basically broke down how the election and the choice of the people are meaningless to their whims.

00:49:56.000 So when you say no one cared, you're talking about the people of France.

00:50:01.000 If you're in England and you're in conflict with France, it's surprising.

00:50:05.000 Can you believe the people of France don't care that the king just passed this decree?

00:50:09.000 Of course they don't care!

00:50:11.000 I'm being serious here.

00:50:13.000 I get it. 0.92

00:50:14.000 I've lived this for 30 years of double standards, hypocrisy.

00:50:19.000 But this gets to, I think, the nut of what you're saying.

00:50:23.000 At some point, I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

00:50:27.000 They literally went through the motions and I always think there's going to be at least some degree of fake outrage like, oh my gosh, this happened.

00:50:35.000 No one from the major networks even acknowledged it happened.

00:50:40.000 If it wasn't for like you guys and some folks in the future.

00:50:46.000 I just, and again, maybe everyone, like the idea that we continue to go, you've got to be kidding me because the goalposts keep getting moving farther and farther away from what I expected reality.

00:50:57.000 I used to get the, everyone always talks about how, you know, the, the evening news used to be, no way they didn't.

00:51:02.000 It never was fair.

00:51:03.000 They just faked it better.

00:51:04.000 Right.

00:51:04.000 I mean, that is, and everyone played the game now, but the reality that no one even tries to fake it anymore, like the faux outrage of like, Oh, this happened because you're at war.

00:51:15.000 Well, but I just, and again, call me naive, but I'm literally going, I've been watching this for 30 years and seeing at least people pretend that there's some modicum of real outrage.

00:51:26.000 The idea that a court published this, no one said anything.

00:51:31.000 But people do care.

00:51:32.000 We experience it.

00:51:34.000 And my experience over the past few years with extended family and friends, A few years ago, the people, a lot of the extended family, they were passive liberal, passive anti-Trump.

00:51:46.000 Today, they are passive anti-Democrat.

00:51:48.000 What I mean by passive is, they don't pay attention for the most part.

00:51:51.000 They're not going on Facebook and posting memes about it.

00:51:54.000 They're not on Twitter. 0.63

00:51:55.000 A few years ago, they were saying things like, oh, Trump is so awful, I can't stand him.

00:51:59.000 Today, what do I hear from them? 0.98

00:52:00.000 Oh, I'm so sick of the Democrats. 0.90

00:52:01.000 I'm so sick of this. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Their crime is running rampant.

00:52:04.000 And you ask them, like, are you gonna vote for Trump?

00:52:05.000 Well, I don't know about that.

00:52:06.000 But they're no longer in the position where they're like, Trump is evil and must be stopped.

00:52:09.000 So, here's what I think may occur.

00:52:12.000 They may still get their default anti-Trump votes, but I think a lot of regular people, you don't have COVID lockdowns anymore, and you don't have a scapegoat.

00:52:23.000 Trump was the president, they can say all your problems are Trump's fault.

00:52:25.000 Yep.

00:52:25.000 Now Biden's the president.

00:52:26.000 So you're gonna be, you're gonna have a very, very, very difficult time to go to the exact same people and say, remember everything we promised you and didn't deliver on?

00:52:32.000 Vote for it again.

00:52:33.000 They're gonna be like, I don't even know anymore, I'm out.

00:52:35.000 Well, when you look at what's going on with the raids where these gangs are raiding Nordstrom and the Nike store, people look, there's a lady in Portland. 0.70

00:52:43.000 She got cracked in the face with a with an aluminum water bottle. 0.71

00:52:46.000 And then she's like, I'm voting Republican now.

00:52:48.000 And I'm like, well, I'm surprised they're getting smashed in the face.

00:52:51.000 Perhaps, you know, for many people, it was the Chas.

00:52:53.000 But I think.

00:52:54.000 Things are getting so bad, both in people's personal lives and in the political space, it's going to cost them dearly.

00:53:03.000 I think Trump knows this, and I think that's why Trump said, I need one more indictment to win.

00:53:08.000 And I think the reason why he's playing along and just doing everything is because he's playing the martyr route.

00:53:13.000 Let them be the villains in the evil empire, and I'll be the underdog fighting the machine.

00:53:18.000 I hope so.

00:53:19.000 Well, all that really matters is this.

00:53:21.000 Will the Republican Party, will Donald Trump build the biggest ballot harvesting and chasing machine ever seen in this country?

00:53:27.000 Because if they don't, then sentiment means nothing.

00:53:31.000 And that's the key.

00:53:32.000 This is why I was telling you I'm launching this new show, because people have to understand how to win.

00:53:37.000 We sit back and everybody goes, I don't like ballot harvesting.

00:53:40.000 I want to vote on Election Day.

00:53:41.000 I think there's a reason we have Election Day.

00:53:44.000 We've lost the battle.

00:53:45.000 Right?

00:53:46.000 Everyone now is mailing in their ballot.

00:53:48.000 The Dems outdid us in COVID.

00:53:51.000 They cheated.

00:53:52.000 They changed the laws.

00:53:53.000 They didn't abide by any of the local regulations.

00:53:57.000 They threw out any lawsuit that challenged their choice.

00:53:59.000 Correct!

00:54:00.000 So the reality is that either you get up and now say, okay, ballot harvesting is legal.

00:54:05.000 We're going to start getting all of these people registered.

00:54:08.000 We've got to understand the rules and play by them.

00:54:11.000 And excuse me, but understand that this is how they're playing by them.

00:54:15.000 And if we don't do it, then we're going to continue to lose.

00:54:17.000 I keep looking back at Georgia.

00:54:19.000 Do you realize if we had won that race in Georgia, we wouldn't have any of the issues in terms of the Biden nominees that we had?

00:54:25.000 The judges, the nominees, the oversight would start happening in the Senate.

00:54:29.000 I think that's Trump's fault.

00:54:30.000 Huh?

00:54:30.000 Okay, but here's the point.

00:54:32.000 Enough people in Georgia didn't get out there and do it.

00:54:34.000 And if we don't realize the consequences of these elections, we're going to get stuck with these policies and these people that are ruining the country.

00:54:40.000 We saw a lot of sentiment from people in Georgia in that Senate runoff that said, what's the point of voting anyway?

00:54:46.000 It's all fraud.

00:54:47.000 Yes.

00:54:47.000 Well, congratulations.

00:54:48.000 Your fraud narrative suppressed your own vote.

00:54:49.000 Correct.

00:54:51.000 I'm still, I mean, I'm not going to claim that there is fraud, but I cannot stand the idea of voting on an electric voting machine.

00:54:57.000 The proprietary code tallies my vote, I put that in quotes, behind the scenes, so it's like I throw a rock into the ocean and someone else is going to be like, oh yeah, your rock landed over there, trust me.

00:55:07.000 Republicans in Congress should pass a bill banning the use of proprietary voting machines.

00:55:11.000 You absolutely need the code to be free because I have evidence of a developer who's testifying in front of a Judiciary Committee that he built technology to flip the vote 51-49 in 2000.

00:55:23.000 It's sickening that...

00:55:26.000 Famous footage.

00:55:26.000 Yeah, yeah, let me...

00:55:27.000 But more importantly, there was a story about a guy who got a speeding ticket

00:55:32.000 and he went to court and he said he wanted the source code of the radar gun

00:55:36.000 because for all we know it's a random number generator.

00:55:39.000 And you have to prove me on a reasonable doubt that that thing actually showed my speed.

00:55:43.000 And the judge was like, you're right.

00:55:45.000 How do we know that thing does what people claim it to do?

00:55:47.000 Clinton's Eugene Curtis testified that he, for Congressman Tom Feeney in 2000, built the prototype software package that would secretly rig an election to sway the result 51-49.

00:55:55.000 In 2000.

00:55:56.000 And then, I think George Bush won that election 51-49.

00:55:58.000 We don't know.

00:55:59.000 Very strange.

00:56:00.000 Yeah, we don't know.

00:56:01.000 And that's the problem, is we don't know.

00:56:02.000 I need to verify.

00:56:03.000 I'm saying, we don't know what voting machines do.

00:56:05.000 Nobody does.

00:56:07.000 All we know is we have various machines where you can tap a screen and it claims you voted, but I have no idea what's going on.

00:56:13.000 Like, why would I make that assumption?

00:56:16.000 The software code for any voting machine should be publicly available to everybody.

00:56:20.000 More importantly, I think, due to the complexity of it, they should be outlawed outright.

00:56:24.000 Also foreign. 0.98

00:56:25.000 And Congress should do it right now.

00:56:26.000 Why doesn't Congress do it though? 0.82

00:56:29.000 I mean, what is the benefit of keeping them around?

00:56:31.000 There's no benefit.

00:56:33.000 Well, I mean, just so you understand, I mean, the answer is because they're going to claim that, that there's no federal, I mean, that these are all state run, I mean, that's their, I'm not explaining.

00:56:43.000 Right?

00:56:43.000 No, you're right.

00:56:43.000 Right.

00:56:44.000 States have a right.

00:56:44.000 States have a right to, they each run their own elections and therefore we're not, we don't have any over, which is, again, this is sort of like the drinking age.

00:56:54.000 There is no federal law that says it's 21, but they just tell everyone transportation dollars flow to states that have a 21.

00:56:59.000 So they tie the money.

00:57:00.000 So you can do it.

00:57:02.000 But they just don't want to.

00:57:04.000 Can I get back to the bottom line?

00:57:08.000 There's a discussion to be had on what you and Ian are bringing up.

00:57:10.000 But the point is that too many people are saying, well, until that's done, I'm not voting.

00:57:15.000 And that's what happened in Georgia.

00:57:16.000 Well, guess what?

00:57:17.000 Then we lose.

00:57:19.000 So you can do both at the same time.

00:57:21.000 You can basically say, all right, I'll get out there, I'll play by the current rules, and we need to fix it.

00:57:25.000 But if we keep losing elections, They're just going to keep steamrolling us.

00:57:28.000 I thought for sure Hillary was going to win 2016 because I'd given up. 1.00

00:57:31.000 I was totally black billed, like, well, I can't prove that these voting machines are legit. 0.95

00:57:35.000 They were so convinced that Trump didn't have any, I think part of it was they didn't have their guard up.

00:57:38.000 They were like, there's no way this is going to happen.

00:57:40.000 And they weren't going to, in 2020, they were like, all right, that's why we're going to keep changing these rules.

00:57:44.000 Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia.

00:57:45.000 It was like, OK, Pennsylvania's constitution doesn't allow early voting.

00:57:51.000 Right.

00:57:52.000 They just did it anyway.

00:57:53.000 They just did it!

00:57:54.000 And then the court ruled it was fine.

00:57:55.000 Yeah.

00:57:56.000 But we got some efforts here.

00:57:57.000 Let's pull up this story.

00:57:58.000 We got this from the Post Millennial.

00:57:59.000 Georgia state senator moves to impeach Trump prosecutor Fannie Willis.

00:58:03.000 Moore said, we must strip all funding and, if appropriate, impeach Fannie Willis.

00:58:08.000 So he drafted this letter, I believe.

00:58:10.000 Oh, they don't have it.

00:58:11.000 He said, we the undersigned, being the duly elected members of the Georgia House of Representatives and Georgia Senate, and comprising three-fifths of each respective house pursuant to Article 4, Section 2, Paragraph 7b, hereby certify you, in writing, with a copy to the Secretary of State, that in our opinion an emergency exists in the affairs of the state, requiring a special session to be convened under that section, for all purposes including I'm not entirely convinced they'll do anything.

00:58:36.000 without limitation, the review in response to the actions of Fannie Willis.

00:58:40.000 So this is Georgia Senator Colton Moore, who apparently went on to say that they must defund

00:58:45.000 or impeach if appropriate.

00:58:46.000 Now I'm not entirely convinced they'll do anything.

00:58:49.000 I don't trust Georgia Republicans at all, but I'm curious where this goes.

00:58:53.000 I'm not so sure this ends with Trump simply surrendering.

00:58:57.000 We've already got Mark Meadows filing to have this moved to federal court.

00:59:00.000 A bunch of analysts believe that will happen very, very quickly.

00:59:03.000 You've got John Eastman severing his case from the rest of the group, saying his defense is different from theirs.

00:59:08.000 And then you've got The attempts to remove the prosecutor.

00:59:13.000 I think Donald Trump should immediately, his lawyer should be filing a claim.

00:59:16.000 This is interesting to me because why isn't this happening?

00:59:17.000 Should be the first thing we heard.

00:59:19.000 His lawyers file with the federal government on the challenge in the constitutionality of trying to have him arrested.

00:59:24.000 Right.

00:59:26.000 That should be the first thing that happens.

00:59:28.000 In a state court for a federal election.

00:59:30.000 But apparently Trump is agreeing to surrender.

00:59:32.000 He's apparently negotiating.

00:59:33.000 There's a bigger point.

00:59:34.000 I grew up in Rhode Island where organized crime, RICO, was used largely for organized crime in the mafia, right?

00:59:39.000 The idea that you are now, and you made this point about Jenna Ellis a while ago, there are people who, if you read the indictment and what they're being charged with, the different counts in indictment, it's like tweeted, did this, represented, they are creating a criminal enterprise.

00:59:52.000 Under a statute that was made to go after organized crime because mob bosses would escape because they're like, ah, technically I didn't do that or whatever.

01:00:00.000 But this is... I've been involved in two really close elections.

01:00:05.000 1994 was involved in a race that lost by 21 votes on election night and then 2000 we won by 386 votes.

01:00:13.000 The first thing you do is you're out there claiming that you won, you're Making sure that you exhaust every recourse in terms of petitioning the government, talking to... Nothing that they did in this case is less than expressing yourself under the laws that exist in our Constitution to participate in a democracy.

01:00:33.000 They are creating a criminal enterprise by saying... This goes back to what we're talking about.

01:00:40.000 This is how far they're going.

01:00:41.000 Yeah.

01:00:42.000 It feels like a sort of slip on George's part, right?

01:00:45.000 They see them as criminals, so they're going to make them into criminals.

01:00:48.000 You even saw Chris Christie, who is literally all he talks about in his entire campaign is Trump, no Trump, no more Trump.

01:00:56.000 His entire, he came out and said, this is a mistake how they're handling this, because I think, again, they've jumped the shark.

01:01:03.000 They keep going one step further.

01:01:05.000 And in her case, it was because I want to show everyone in the world that I can be the champion that slays the dragon.

01:01:11.000 Yeah, I want to have that picture in my mail. 0.95

01:01:12.000 And they're showing themselves to be insane. 0.99

01:01:13.000 They're unhinged. 0.99

01:01:14.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:01:15.000 And they've got unhinged supporters on social media.

01:01:17.000 You know, I think one big component of the culture war has been that fringe weirdos on

01:01:21.000 social media drive the conversation among Democrats.

01:01:25.000 And when they started banning conservatives, something interesting happened.

01:01:29.000 You've got, I want you to imagine there's two kids.

01:01:32.000 One's filthy and covered in chocolate ice cream all over his face, and it looks like a disaster.

01:01:35.000 And the other kid's very clean-looking, and, you know, his hair is parted perfectly, and he's wearing a nice little suit.

01:01:39.000 And you think, man, that kid's, you know, well-educated, well-taken care of, and well-developed.

01:01:45.000 And that other kid is... Something's wrong with him. 0.62

01:01:48.000 You assume the dirty kid is... got something wrong with him.

01:01:51.000 The reality is, the mother just does not let the other kid have chocolate ice cream.

01:01:56.000 And if he can't get access to it, he can't get all messy.

01:01:58.000 The other kid, she lets him have it.

01:02:00.000 So what we're seeing with the censorship on Twitter, they kept allowing the left to say the craziest things imaginable, but the right would be banned instantly.

01:02:08.000 What happened is, you got a perception of the right as Ben Shapiro, saying, well, listen, these arguments we're gonna have, they're completely on the taxes, and it's very basic, very normal conservatism.

01:02:18.000 On the left, you have people arguing that you can be a chimp if you want, you just need to get the appropriate surgery.

01:02:24.000 And so now you end up with post-liberals and disaffected liberals, people who are like, I can't associate with this.

01:02:31.000 Democratic politicians on social media ...are adhering to the voices of the most fringe and insane personalities, and people on the right were listening to a bunch of regular, moderately conservative individuals. 0.92

01:02:44.000 This made Democrat politicians sound like crackpots when they start advocating for child sex changes and sex shows for children. 0.97

01:02:51.000 Now you get regular people being like, yo, that's crazy, that's too far for me! 0.96

01:02:55.000 Because they were allowed to say these things and social media wouldn't ban it.

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:59.000 Well, think about it.

01:02:59.000 You brought up Sound of Freedom before.

01:03:03.000 I started, before I actually saw the movie, I started going, what's all this QAnon stuff, right? 0.79

01:03:07.000 I finally watched the entire movie.

01:03:08.000 I'm like, I'd seen the clips.

01:03:09.000 I'd watched the trailer.

01:03:10.000 I talked to a bunch of the guys.

01:03:11.000 And then I kept saying, like, I just don't get the QAnon thing.

01:03:13.000 There's nothing like it.

01:03:14.000 No, I mean, literally, if you watch it, but this is what they do.

01:03:18.000 They demonized it.

01:03:19.000 And what happened is more people said, I got to watch it.

01:03:21.000 It became unbelievably successful.

01:03:24.000 But they don't know where to stop.

01:03:27.000 QAnon, there's nothing... But that used to be the thing they would say to keep people away from certain topics.

01:03:33.000 It used to be.

01:03:33.000 They're saying that about Oliver Anthony.

01:03:35.000 They're saying he's a QAnon guy.

01:03:37.000 Wait, they're still using it.

01:03:38.000 I'm just saying it's not as effective as it used to be.

01:03:40.000 Before, when you would say QAnon, people would be like, oh, that's crazy internet stuff.

01:03:44.000 And now you say QAnon, people are like, oh, that means mainstream people in the media don't like it, and therefore maybe I should check it out on my own.

01:03:50.000 There is a reawakening of curiosity.

01:03:52.000 And it didn't work.

01:03:54.000 People went and saw that movie.

01:03:55.000 In droves.

01:03:56.000 Yeah, and they're still going.

01:03:58.000 $175 million, basically.

01:04:00.000 Yeah, beating Indiana Jones and a bunch of other films for the top box office for the year.

01:04:05.000 Absolutely incredible.

01:04:06.000 And the budget was really small, so it's actually performing way better than we can even realize.

01:04:10.000 Some of these movies, it's like, oh, it made $500 million and it cost $600.

01:04:12.000 Yeah, we don't, come on.

01:04:14.000 Sound of Freedom was $15 million and it's at $175 million.

01:04:18.000 And again, Bud Light and all these other things.

01:04:21.000 I think we win culturally.

01:04:23.000 And then what happens is, Oliver Anthony is a really great example.

01:04:27.000 John Rich tweeted this out, that all these labels are tripping over themselves trying to get him on board or sign with him.

01:04:32.000 But he said, if Anthony was signed to these labels, they wouldn't let that song go out.

01:04:36.000 You'd never hear it.

01:04:38.000 Why don't you write a song about drinking beer with your dog in your truck because your girl left you or something?

01:04:42.000 Not about minors on an island or whatever.

01:04:45.000 That's a bit too much.

01:04:47.000 So it's a grassroots effort.

01:04:50.000 But the culture matters because money talks and BS walks.

01:04:53.000 Disney and all these organizations, they're losing money.

01:04:56.000 They're going to have to fall in line or their money is going to dry up.

01:04:59.000 Yeah, that was similar is that the money like Alex Jones got slammed.

01:05:03.000 I don't know if slander is the right word, but he got, you know, demeaned in the media, got talked badly about, then he got deleted from Twitter.

01:05:09.000 But then when they went after his pocketbook, that's when it really stifled his ability to create.

01:05:13.000 Now he's working for Steven Crowder.

01:05:15.000 I think.

01:05:15.000 He's working with Mug Club.

01:05:16.000 He has a special with Mug Club, but Alex Jones and Infowars are all still doing their thing.

01:05:21.000 But they just shredded his organization financially and caused him so much stress for years, and now you see what they're doing with Donald Trump through the legal system.

01:05:28.000 Like, you can talk crap about someone only so long before it turns against you, but if you go after finance, I think that is a way to permanently destroy someone's ability to communicate, to function.

01:05:39.000 Yeah, doesn't Alex Jones owe, like, the GDP of France or something?

01:05:42.000 Billions of dollars? It doesn't make any sense. I mean, I would think if you were the people suing him, you know, you're

01:05:51.000 never going to see that money.

01:05:52.000 So if you really felt like you needed it to fund whatever, whoever is acting on your behalf is actually trying to make

01:06:00.000 a political point.

01:06:01.000 And presumably they are also in on it.

01:06:03.000 I think that's the whole point of our justice system right now, especially because so much of it plays out in the court of public opinion.

01:06:11.000 It's not about actual justice or figuring out what's right or wrong, it's about getting the mugshots, it's about getting the perp walk, it's about getting the headlines, being able to say, well I was the one who filed charges, I was the one who did this, I served on that jury, and we did this thing, and Therefore, I have the moral superiority, and that's how people feel like they have influence and culture.

01:06:28.000 They just want a Wikipedia page, man.

01:06:30.000 That's all they want.

01:06:31.000 I'm thinking like how Alex sacrificed his financial stability, or had it, it was sacrificed on the altar in front of him, and he watched it happen.

01:06:40.000 It's like the Founding Fathers of the United States, they risked everything, man.

01:06:44.000 They risked their fortunes as well.

01:06:45.000 Like at some point you speak out against it, they might shut your bank account off, but You got to take that risk.

01:06:51.000 If you want to speak what you believe, there's a risk involved, and the risk will probably intensify in the coming five years.

01:07:00.000 Probably by 2027, we're going to see a sea change.

01:07:02.000 That's when graphene goes peak.

01:07:04.000 I think that's when money might become way, way less important.

01:07:06.000 I think the value of money actually is going to continue to diminish.

01:07:10.000 We'll see what happens with that.

01:07:10.000 I mean, Michael Burry, we talked about the other day, made a big bet against the S&P 500 and NASDAQ.

01:07:16.000 And so everyone's kind of like looking around like, does he know something?

01:07:19.000 Exactly.

01:07:20.000 It doesn't mean he does.

01:07:21.000 He got the mortgage-backed securities things right in 2008.

01:07:24.000 It doesn't mean he's a profit.

01:07:25.000 It means he got one big one right.

01:07:28.000 I don't know.

01:07:28.000 I don't know if I want to hope he's right this time or not.

01:07:30.000 I mean, a shock to the system could be good.

01:07:33.000 It could be bad.

01:07:33.000 I have no idea.

01:07:34.000 I think, ultimately, the scary thing is it's going to negatively impact working class people who are already having a hard enough time buying groceries.

01:07:41.000 Yeah, I'd just like to know when that's going to happen.

01:07:43.000 Because I can play it if I want.

01:07:45.000 SpaceX sold all their Bitcoin today or something like that.

01:07:48.000 Did they really?

01:07:49.000 And then the price of Bitcoin collapsed, and then they announced ETF, Ethereum ETF, or whatever, futures, and then it jumped back up.

01:07:57.000 So it's like, yeah, everyone would have loved to have known that SpaceX was about to sell off their Bitcoin so they could get out before price went down.

01:08:03.000 Oh wow, yeah.

01:08:04.000 Everything dropped 6%.

01:08:04.000 Let's go to the good news.

01:08:08.000 Ladies and gentlemen from Rolling Stone.

01:08:10.000 Oh, they're seething over this!

01:08:13.000 Oliver Anthony's populist, polarizing Rich Men North of Richmond on track to debut at number one.

01:08:20.000 The Virginia Upstart's song about rich politicians and poor people abusing welfare is already atop the iTunes, Spotify, and Apple music charts.

01:08:27.000 He's got, what are they saying, 98,000 digital song sales, 7.8 million streams.

01:08:33.000 I don't know where that'll put him on the Hot 100.

01:08:36.000 It is very difficult to top that chart.

01:08:41.000 But they say Morgan Wallen's last night, the reigning number one from this week's Billboard chart, and one of the biggest hits of the year, has 13 million streams, but just over 3,000 digital sales, with 41 million airplay impressions.

01:08:55.000 It's a major year for the genre, blah blah blah.

01:08:57.000 Alright, so let's break this down.

01:09:00.000 I could be wrong in my math, but I believe that one sale is 1,500 streams.

01:09:05.000 So do the math, and you'll calculate how many streams that Oliver Anthony actually has.

01:09:12.000 But that 41 million airplane impressions?

01:09:17.000 That's hard to beat.

01:09:18.000 That's basically the radio station saying, we'll play your music.

01:09:21.000 And of course, they're not going to get Oliver Anthony on there.

01:09:23.000 It's going to be very difficult.

01:09:24.000 Now with the weight of the song, they might be forced to.

01:09:27.000 Oh yeah.

01:09:28.000 But you know why he's a- I have a real simple reason why this song's doing so well and why they're so mad about it.

01:09:34.000 What did the corporate music industry give us in terms of music? 1.00

01:09:40.000 Wet-ass pussy. 1.00

01:09:43.000 Yeah, okay, that's the stuff that they tell you to listen to. 1.00

01:09:46.000 Okay, fine, Adele is up there somewhere, and Taylor Swift, and then you have that teeny bopper stuff from Harry Styles or whatever.

01:09:54.000 It's not only just WAP or whatever, but this is the antithesis of WAP.

01:09:59.000 So this is something that regular people who are sick of the disgusting Sodom and Gomorrah music and entertainment industry can now be like, hey, there's some music.

01:10:08.000 Hey, I understand this.

01:10:10.000 Hey, these words mean something to me.

01:10:12.000 And that's pushing back.

01:10:13.000 So this, you combine it with all the other cultural endeavors we've been winning on and Just feels good.

01:10:19.000 You know what I thought was fascinating?

01:10:20.000 You put the headline up from Rolling Stone.

01:10:22.000 For the first, I don't know, maybe 24, 48, 72 hours, he was a phenomena.

01:10:27.000 Everybody was excited.

01:10:28.000 And then once the folks on the right, John Rich and others, sort of talked about him and made him a cause, the Rolling Stones of the world suddenly branded him.

01:10:37.000 It was like, oh God, we were initially positive on this guy.

01:10:40.000 The second that people on the right embraced him, What's the headline?

01:10:44.000 Polarizing!

01:10:45.000 He was polarizing in QAnon, but for the first 24 hours he was a rock star and a savant.

01:10:53.000 But it was so funny to watch how quickly they shifted once folks on the right embraced the message and his success.

01:11:00.000 They're like, if you guys like him, we hate him.

01:11:02.000 There's nothing you can do.

01:11:03.000 I mean, I, for one, love to see ginger representation.

01:11:06.000 I think redheads don't have enough place in the media. 1.00

01:11:10.000 Yeah, I feel like we should credit him as representing a very minority genetic group.

01:11:16.000 Yes.

01:11:16.000 Thank you, sir.

01:11:18.000 But I think part of it too is, at least for me, again, this is the sort of the alternative country folk genre that I personally already like, but I think he's talented, right?

01:11:28.000 So much of what's sort of astroturf right now in pop music is just like the same one verse with one bridge it's all kind of electronically done and maybe those singers and artists and songwriters have some talent on some level but because it's supposed to appeal to the masses they try to make it as simple and as you know ear-wormy as possible whereas this is actually catchy he's actually got a good voice he's actually a talented musician and that's more effective instead of sort of trying to make it this garbage song giving something something with giving the people something with feeling is really having an impact

01:12:00.000 So I have a correction, it's not 1,500, it's 150. 0.58

01:12:04.000 For every sale of Richmond North of Richmond, that counts as 150 streams.

01:12:11.000 So he's currently sitting at, with these numbers, we're looking at about 22.5 million streams.

01:12:22.000 He's not going to beat these other radio guys.

01:12:26.000 Now, he would, you know, beat this other song.

01:12:29.000 It only has 13 million streams and 3,000 sales.

01:12:32.000 That ain't nothing.

01:12:33.000 But they've got the radio behind them.

01:12:35.000 So I can only tell you this, man.

01:12:36.000 If you really like the song, y'all need to go on iTunes and buy it.

01:12:40.000 And tell all your friends to buy it.

01:12:42.000 Because if you're gonna listen to it... Look, we've talked about it with our music and everything, but I'm gonna say this right now.

01:12:48.000 I know you all love this song.

01:12:49.000 I love this song.

01:12:50.000 It's a great song.

01:12:51.000 I was playing it on loop earlier. 0.97

01:12:52.000 I was like, damn, this song's fantastic. 0.99

01:12:54.000 Buy it. 0.99

01:12:56.000 Spend that dollar.

01:12:57.000 Buy it.

01:12:57.000 Go on iTunes, buy the song, tell all your friends to buy the song.

01:13:00.000 Anyone you know who listens to it, you should say, hey man, let's make this guy the superstar.

01:13:05.000 Let's make him bigger than Cardi B, bigger than Taylor Swift.

01:13:08.000 All you gotta do is spend a dollar.

01:13:10.000 That one dollar counts as 150 streams.

01:13:12.000 Let's get this song to debut platinum.

01:13:15.000 I think he needs 75 to 150 million.

01:13:17.000 I think he needs 150 million.

01:13:20.000 He needs just about eight times where he's currently at in terms of streams and purchases.

01:13:25.000 So right now, they're all seething.

01:13:27.000 They're trying to argue that he's a plant.

01:13:29.000 Look at this.

01:13:31.000 Intelligencer, look at this.

01:13:32.000 Oliver Anthony and the incoherence of right-wing populism.

01:13:35.000 They're losing their mind over a factory worker turned farmer who wrote a country acoustic song.

01:13:42.000 The dude didn't do anything to anybody.

01:13:44.000 He wrote a song about how he feels, and they are losing their minds!

01:13:47.000 But this gets back to the Bud Light, the Target.

01:13:52.000 In the last 24 months, give or take, I feel like conservatives have gotten their sea legs.

01:13:58.000 We go out there and go, guess what?

01:14:00.000 We're not going to take it.

01:14:01.000 We're not going to shop or we're not going to buy you.

01:14:03.000 And then conversely, Sound of Freedom, Oliver Anthony, we go out there and go, all right, we support them.

01:14:09.000 This is what I think we are finally starting to get, get it together.

01:14:14.000 You actually don't want like something, then stop going into the store, stop buying the product.

01:14:19.000 Don't just say, oh, the heck with it.

01:14:21.000 And for the things that we do like, and Tim, you're absolutely right.

01:14:23.000 You go out, you spend that buck.

01:14:25.000 At some point they can't ignore it and that's what happened with Sound of Freedom and frankly before that The Chosen and I know they've got a bunch more in the works at Angel Studios but that's what's happening with this guy as well.

01:14:36.000 It's a dollar to make a difference and that's what's going on.

01:14:40.000 I get excited when I see success stories like this because it just shows that we can do it and I think that's frankly what's going on in media too.

01:14:48.000 I tell people all the time, go look at what you guys are doing at TimCast, look at what Patrick McDavid's doing.

01:14:54.000 All of these folks that the media doesn't want to pretend exist are unbelievably successful.

01:15:00.000 And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.

01:15:02.000 It's like, you know what?

01:15:03.000 I'm tired.

01:15:03.000 The corporate stuff, it's not where the future is anymore.

01:15:07.000 And I think if we band together and support each other when events like this come along, this is where I think we start to win again.

01:15:15.000 I love Oliver Anthony's performance.

01:15:18.000 I think that that song is pretty simple.

01:15:21.000 It's like a verse-chorus-verse-chorus, and it just ends after that.

01:15:24.000 So there's no bridge, there's no three parts that you would consider to make a hit, but the way he performs it is so real, visceral.

01:15:31.000 Less is more.

01:15:32.000 It changes you.

01:15:33.000 It's raw.

01:15:33.000 It's the kind of thing where he could tell you a bedtime story and it would be invigorating because of the way he tells it.

01:15:38.000 Post Malone's like that.

01:15:39.000 This guy's like Post Malone.

01:15:40.000 He's got that Posty energy.

01:15:42.000 I love it.

01:15:42.000 He needs one million sales.

01:15:45.000 To be platinum.

01:15:46.000 You need 150 million streams for platinum.

01:15:49.000 I hope this song gets there.

01:15:51.000 It's like the biggest song in the world right now.

01:15:53.000 So where's he at right now?

01:15:54.000 20-some-odd million and 98,000 sales.

01:15:57.000 So he's at 10% of the sales needed.

01:15:59.000 Look, debuting at platinum is a big ask.

01:16:03.000 Songs go platinum after a few years.

01:16:06.000 Then they're like, hey, you finally crossed that mark where you've got enough plays of your song.

01:16:12.000 But it would be cool if he could do it because he seems like someone who has strong values.

01:16:16.000 I mean, he posted earlier today that he's launching merch for this with a local t-shirt company from wherever he's from in Virginia.

01:16:24.000 Farmville.

01:16:25.000 I think that's cool.

01:16:26.000 Farmville.

01:16:27.000 He's from Farmville?

01:16:29.000 Yes.

01:16:29.000 And now you understand why people are like, plant.

01:16:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:33.000 We limit the simulation.

01:16:34.000 But I like that he is saying like, I want to support other small businesses.

01:16:39.000 And I think that is cool to see.

01:16:40.000 It would be very easy for him to be like, people want my stuff.

01:16:43.000 Let me figure out the fastest way to get to them or a big corporation that can help me out.

01:16:46.000 And I wouldn't.

01:16:48.000 I would understand why you would do it.

01:16:49.000 I just like that he's opting to work locally and small.

01:16:52.000 That's a value that I would want to see in my own life.

01:16:55.000 Check this out.

01:16:57.000 They say, Fox News, Oliver Anthony says he's turned down $8 million offer since going viral.

01:17:03.000 Nothing special about me.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, dude.

01:17:05.000 Stay independent, brother.

01:17:07.000 All right, just I will Roger up if you want to give me eight million dollars Cancel your show it's not worth it.

01:17:15.000 Yeah, you know if you haven't you saw me dance my singing is worse than that Dude, I listened to his song like four or five times this rich man of North Carolina Richmond and it was like the fifth time I listened to it something struck me like I just started shaking I was like I got goosebumps all through my body for like almost the entire song but sometimes that's what it takes a few times you listen to something or you eat something a few times and it's an acquired taste.

01:17:37.000 It's real music yeah so much music because we've been putting out music let me explain you guys we talked to these industry dudes and they say you gotta get on the DSPs the digital streaming playlists Once you're there, they'll automatically play your song for people if it's in a certain genre.

01:17:52.000 And then you'll start getting play, and I'm like, I get it.

01:17:56.000 If you're in the machine, if you are approved by the people who work for Pandora, for Spotify, or whatever, if you're well-known, they'll auto-load your new song.

01:18:05.000 It will be guaranteed to get a certain number of hits, and then you're gonna chart.

01:18:09.000 Yeah.

01:18:09.000 All the stuff we had to do when we released songs and we charted was asking people to like, hey, be active, listen to our music.

01:18:16.000 So we're fighting through this machine that props up everybody else.

01:18:20.000 Oliver Anthony has hit the dream.

01:18:23.000 He has 17 million hits on YouTube.

01:18:28.000 98,000 sales, the equivalent of about $15,000,000, $14,700,000.

01:18:31.000 So he's looking at 30 plus million streams, all organically, with no industry support, because he wrote a good song that resonates with people.

01:18:42.000 Nailed it.

01:18:43.000 It's awesome.

01:18:44.000 He's got 19 million on YouTube now.

01:18:46.000 19 million?

01:18:47.000 3 million in one day.

01:18:48.000 Radio WV, where I saw this video originally, does stuff with other artists.

01:18:54.000 I hope he does well individually, I don't want to take attention away from him, He is representational of a whole group of artists who probably don't get the attention from mainstream outlets because they are not exactly what they're looking for.

01:19:06.000 And I think it's cool to have someone who's sort of opening the door and saying, you know, it becomes that thing.

01:19:11.000 If you like this music, you can probably figure out other artists that you can support that are similar to him.

01:19:15.000 And I think, Tim, you mentioned that he didn't have industry support, but I think he has an industry support.

01:19:19.000 It's just a new kind of industry.

01:19:20.000 It's a decentralized creator industry.

01:19:23.000 Yeah.

01:19:23.000 Like Jack Kosobik.

01:19:24.000 People that fire out his music to 100,000 views and stuff.

01:19:27.000 I think the video was actually posted to some kind of music channel.

01:19:31.000 Yeah, it is.

01:19:33.000 Radio W. It's small.

01:19:35.000 I mean, there's another one.

01:19:36.000 I think it's called Gems on VHS.

01:19:38.000 Like, if you like this style of music, you can kind of find it.

01:19:42.000 But I think you're not entirely wrong.

01:19:44.000 It's not like the mega big studio.

01:19:46.000 No, it's very different.

01:19:47.000 It's very different.

01:19:49.000 You might be well known in your genre, you might grow, but I don't know of anyone else who sort of launched into this stardom from these smaller groups.

01:19:55.000 Not that they aren't doing great work.

01:19:56.000 They didn't understand too.

01:19:57.000 So he's got this Facebook post where he said, people in the music industry give me blank stares when I brush off eight million dollar offers.

01:20:04.000 They're not offering you $8,000,000.

01:20:04.000 No.

01:20:05.000 That's usually just in advance, too.

01:20:07.000 Then you get $8,000,000 and you have to pay back the $8,000,000 after you've made your record sales.

01:20:11.000 They think he could do it.

01:20:12.000 In this case, he could probably do that.

01:20:15.000 They're saying, this was one song.

01:20:17.000 We could take all your music.

01:20:19.000 We put it on an album.

01:20:20.000 We put advertising behind it.

01:20:21.000 We're going to give you $8,000,000.

01:20:23.000 And then what happens is they give you $8,000,000 to be paid back, and then you gotta pay back all the marketing, pay back all the placement, pay back the managers, the manager gets cut, and then after all of your albums sell, they're like, here's your 15% cut of the $10,000,000 we made off the album, you're gonna get $1,000,000, but that's gonna go back towards the debt you have with us, so you actually owe us $7,000,000.

01:20:43.000 Have a nice day.

01:20:44.000 Exactly.

01:20:44.000 That's how it goes.

01:20:46.000 And you can't say anything more about these elite stuff?

01:20:49.000 Like, here's what you're gonna write now.

01:20:51.000 Yeah.

01:20:51.000 Yep.

01:20:52.000 Exactly.

01:20:53.000 It's funny how they're calling him a plant, but it's like, it's just not, it's just so obviously not the case.

01:20:57.000 Especially with turning that down.

01:20:58.000 It's such desperation.

01:20:59.000 His name is Christopher Anthony Lunsford.

01:21:02.000 His grandfather is Oliver Anthony.

01:21:05.000 And Oliver Anthony Music is dedicated not only to him, but 1930s Appalachia, where he was born and raised.

01:21:10.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, wow.

01:21:12.000 Chris Anthony.

01:21:13.000 He says, I'll gladly go by Oliver because everyone knows me as such.

01:21:17.000 Amazing.

01:21:18.000 There's really cool music coming out of Appalachia.

01:21:20.000 I feel like there's a whole renaissance here in terms of music.

01:21:23.000 I mean, it's just because it's not what Hollywood is expecting, but there are a lot of really interesting artists that are based in Appalachia.

01:21:29.000 It's clean air.

01:21:29.000 It's easier to breathe here.

01:21:30.000 It's easier to sing.

01:21:31.000 I was in LA for way too long.

01:21:33.000 There's too much brake dust in the air.

01:21:34.000 It's hard.

01:21:35.000 And it's different values.

01:21:36.000 It's not the same thing.

01:21:37.000 Like, you're not hearing another song about, like, A party of people trying to get famous.

01:21:40.000 Not that those aren't real experiences.

01:21:42.000 The most horrifying song of all time.

01:21:44.000 Do you know when you look at movies that are solid content, good values, family values, Christian values, name one that hasn't done well.

01:21:55.000 They all do well.

01:21:56.000 This is the funny thing.

01:21:57.000 This song is another example of this.

01:21:59.000 It's almost like Hollywood and the music industry are fighting it.

01:22:06.000 When these songs come out, Surfer, the one on Bethany Hamilton, they all tend to do well.

01:22:12.000 Passion of the Christ, they do well, and yet Hollywood goes, well, instead, let's make another one that has to do with a bunch of smut and things like that.

01:22:21.000 And yet here's a song like this, no marketing, no agent, no nothing, bust to the top of the charts.

01:22:27.000 You talk about your experience.

01:22:28.000 People want good content, good music. 0.97

01:22:32.000 They almost are like, well, how do we then jam them back with some more crap? 0.98

01:22:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:37.000 What I find fascinating is it's the antithesis of capitalism.

01:22:41.000 But if you're always eating sugar, you're always gonna need a dentist, right?

01:22:44.000 Because you have cavities.

01:22:46.000 Like they do this because the music isn't fulfilling to your soul.

01:22:49.000 And so therefore you're trying to try new things and go watch more TV and more movies.

01:22:52.000 You're looking for that connection.

01:22:53.000 I think this solidifies what I've been saying for probably about 15 years.

01:22:57.000 We are the media.

01:22:58.000 When they say the media, that's us.

01:23:00.000 He's got four songs in the iTunes top 10.

01:23:03.000 Yeah, go buy them all.

01:23:04.000 He's got Rich Men North of Richmond is number one.

01:23:07.000 Ain't Got a Dollar number three.

01:23:09.000 Seven, I've got to get sober, and eight, I want to go home.

01:23:12.000 Can we get away with playing any of that right now?

01:23:16.000 I've only heard his number one, I haven't heard his other ones.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, but they get more support, and I saw something up in the chat a couple days ago, they get more support, he gets more support if you go to his actual channel and you go and watch his video, you go and buy the actual thing.

01:23:26.000 If you want to support him, the best thing you can do is look it up yourself and go and buy it, because that just shows the algorithm, more people came there naturally.

01:23:32.000 So, just so I'm clear, Are you saying don't go to iTunes?

01:23:36.000 No, no.

01:23:37.000 Go to iTunes and buy it.

01:23:38.000 Okay.

01:23:39.000 Spend that dollar.

01:23:40.000 Spend that $1.

01:23:41.000 Because that $1 is equal to listening to the song 150 times.

01:23:45.000 Exactly.

01:23:45.000 And if all 40,000 people who are watching right now buy that song for $1, it's going to help him blast off.

01:23:52.000 But more importantly, if all 40,000 people who are watching tell all their friends and family who like the song to buy it, hey look, he's got 19 million views on YouTube.

01:24:01.000 Let's say that everyone listened to the song twice.

01:24:04.000 Let's just say he's got nine million, let's just cut it down.

01:24:08.000 Let's say that three million unique listeners.

01:24:11.000 Imagine if they each bought that song for one dollar.

01:24:13.000 Not only would this dude be a millionaire, because he'd take home like two point something million, then taxes come in, he'd take home about a million something, but he would be, I think that would put him double platinum.

01:24:23.000 Yeah, easily.

01:24:24.000 Double platinum debut for this song.

01:24:26.000 And that's if people just go and search a song, go look it up.

01:24:28.000 I know it seems like, it seems better to like give them the platform for on our channel, but that's the best way to help.

01:24:34.000 I just, I want, I want this guy to be a millionaire and to be successful.

01:24:37.000 And I want, I want young people to look at him and his message and be like, that's your path of success. 1.00

01:24:43.000 I don't want them to look at wet ass pussy and be like, that's how you're going to be famous, a famous musician. 0.99

01:24:48.000 I want them to look at Oliver Anthony and be like, that's your path being musician. 1.00

01:24:52.000 Being real, being genuine, and, like, honor, integrity, real issues.

01:24:57.000 And I just want the massive, multinational, entertainment, industrial complex to fail.

01:25:03.000 So, like, please, just buy this.

01:25:05.000 Sound of Freedom does a thing where you can pay it forward, where you buy the tickets and other people get them for free.

01:25:11.000 So I think a lot of people that watch YouTube... You can't do this.

01:25:14.000 You cannot do it with music.

01:25:15.000 That's what we're going to ask.

01:25:15.000 Is there a system where we can pay it forward for artists?

01:25:18.000 I'd put a thousand bucks into this guy so a thousand people could have it.

01:25:21.000 They don't allow that.

01:25:22.000 But we should start doing it.

01:25:23.000 Even if it doesn't count towards the views, it would mean that people could listen to it.

01:25:26.000 No, because then Taylor Swift will go in and be like, put a hundred million dollars into giving this song for free and then I'm number one for ten weeks. 1.00

01:25:31.000 But if it didn't count towards the views, if it just let people hear it, I mean, they can hear it on YouTube anyway.

01:25:36.000 That's why I'm saying, everybody who's already listened to the song and likes it, you gotta buy it.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:25:42.000 Man.

01:25:43.000 I wish all 40,000 people listening right now just went and bought it.

01:25:48.000 Is there a way that we can see?

01:25:51.000 Again, this is not my world here.

01:25:52.000 Can we see where it is right now?

01:25:54.000 I'd love to see.

01:25:55.000 You can't see it real time.

01:25:56.000 See what or what is?

01:25:57.000 I would love to know real time because to Tim's point.

01:25:59.000 Oh, he knows.

01:26:00.000 Yeah, so he's got access to the backend where he can probably see streams coming in and not necessarily sales.

01:26:07.000 There are some APIs that I can, I can, they estimate, they estimate.

01:26:13.000 Not exact.

01:26:13.000 Yeah.

01:26:14.000 If his, if he's got anybody with access to, I think it's called Luminate, then they can see in real time, but it might take a day to update or something like that.

01:26:21.000 Do you have his number?

01:26:22.000 Chris's number?

01:26:23.000 No.

01:26:24.000 Chris, hit me up.

01:26:26.000 He's got John Rich helping him out.

01:26:28.000 Oh, good.

01:26:28.000 John, get us in touch, man.

01:26:30.000 They're good.

01:26:30.000 He lives close by, dude.

01:26:31.000 I know.

01:26:32.000 He's like two and a half hours away.

01:26:33.000 We're gonna rock so hard with Vivek on keys.

01:26:35.000 You know what?

01:26:35.000 Hold on.

01:26:36.000 Let's just go.

01:26:37.000 Let's go.

01:26:38.000 Right now?

01:26:38.000 Let's get in the car right now and just drive to Farmville and go look for him.

01:26:40.000 I'd love it.

01:26:40.000 Let's do it.

01:26:41.000 We'll start yelling, Chris, where you at?

01:26:42.000 Farmville.

01:26:43.000 I've been to Farmville.

01:26:44.000 Is it cool?

01:26:45.000 It's a beautiful place.

01:26:46.000 It's a video game.

01:26:47.000 No, well, there's the reason I just, not that I, but there was the site, that was the site of the vice presidential debate in 2015.

01:26:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:56.000 It's not like you're like, hey, you're just driving through.

01:27:00.000 No, it's a beautiful, beautiful place in Virginia, though.

01:27:03.000 Yeah, I remember the video game.

01:27:05.000 That's about it.

01:27:06.000 Is that what it was?

01:27:07.000 Was it based on the city?

01:27:08.000 No.

01:27:09.000 Dude, he put Farmville on the map.

01:27:11.000 Yeah.

01:27:13.000 He's got, in country, he's got a bunch.

01:27:16.000 He's got one, two, three, four, he's got five songs in the top country charts and four songs in the iTunes top.

01:27:23.000 I like Chris Anthony.

01:27:24.000 I think that's a better name than Oliver Anthony.

01:27:26.000 I think it's too late, brother. 0.98

01:27:27.000 I'm gonna keep calling him Chris and let the people be damned. 0.97

01:27:31.000 No offense. 0.97

01:27:32.000 Be confused, I should say, if you don't understand who I'm talking about.

01:27:34.000 But it's Chris Anthony.

01:27:35.000 Like, don't put him through that.

01:27:36.000 Don't change his name.

01:27:37.000 But he wanted to, because he listened to his music on there, right?

01:27:41.000 I mean, shout out to Oliver.

01:27:42.000 Old Ollie Anthony.

01:27:44.000 Big granddad making magic.

01:27:45.000 I hope he also had a ginger beard.

01:27:47.000 Just a great genetic trait.

01:27:48.000 This is going to be Ian's trivia question.

01:27:50.000 Chris Anthony.

01:27:51.000 What is the real name of Ollie Anthony?

01:27:55.000 Chris Anthony sounds like that wizard, that magician.

01:27:58.000 What's his name?

01:27:59.000 Chris Angel?

01:28:00.000 Chris Angel, yeah.

01:28:02.000 Mind freak?

01:28:03.000 Yeah, mind freak.

01:28:05.000 He's still doing his thing in Vegas, I think.

01:28:06.000 Oh, no way. 0.95

01:28:07.000 Dude, talk about music changing the freaking world. 0.88

01:28:10.000 Exactly.

01:28:11.000 Totally.

01:28:13.000 Winning the cultural battles is how you win everything because, again, there's going to be some 15-year-old kid, he's going to hear about this, the number one song, 19 million views in a week, and he's going to say, I want that, I want people, I want to make the work that everyone loves and respects.

01:28:28.000 And he's going to be looking at a guy who's talking about the working class being screwed over.

01:28:31.000 And when you listen to musicians, when you're nine and twelve years old, and you listen to a musician over and over and over and over, and you're writing it in, you become like that later in life.

01:28:39.000 If you want to become a musician, that's part of you.

01:28:41.000 Like Eddie Vedder was that for me.

01:28:43.000 I would, twelve years old, in my bedroom, over and over, Pearl Jam, non-stop.

01:28:46.000 And now that just comes out of me, like that growl, you know, it's part of how I communicate.

01:28:51.000 And so this guy's doing it for, Oliver's doing that for kids right now.

01:28:54.000 Can I ask, do you guys know, and I was late to the, I saw the video when everyone else kind of, but what was the wick that lit him?

01:29:05.000 I don't know, I woke up one morning- I know, all of a sudden everyone was talking about it.

01:29:08.000 I saw it on Twitter.

01:29:09.000 I think Posobic tweeted it out.

01:29:10.000 Yeah, it didn't have that much views at all.

01:29:12.000 But I saw Bongino and a bunch of these other guys, there's some connective tissue to a bunch of these guys, some guy- Who saw it first?

01:29:18.000 Yeah, and they were tweeting out, that's the guy.

01:29:21.000 Yeah, and then once that takes, like the algorithm takes it and then it starts, you know, putting it in front of people that it thinks you'll probably like this and you'll probably like this.

01:29:28.000 I think this was a natural viral phenomenon of people on the right hearing the song and posting it in replies and sharing it with, you know, Jack Posobiec said, you know, it would be a shame if this song went viral and then people start clicking and retweeting it.

01:29:40.000 Jack said, don't even remember the last time a new song hit me like this.

01:29:43.000 I mean, I hear you, Jack.

01:29:44.000 Actually, after I read Jack's tweet is when I listened to it and I got the goosebumps because I heard it through Jack's ears.

01:29:50.000 It's wild.

01:29:51.000 I wonder if he was the first one to put on the map August 11th.

01:29:54.000 So this, it's all part of the bigger picture with the failures of Bud Light, the failures of Target, the success of Sound of Freedom.

01:30:01.000 It is people saying, we're not going to buy your weird Sodom and Gomorrah garbage anymore, and we're going to focus on things that actually matter to us.

01:30:08.000 That is the boycott.

01:30:11.000 And if that keeps up in a few years, we're not going to be complaining about Target anymore.

01:30:16.000 You know why?

01:30:16.000 Target's going to have a cardboard cutout of Oliver Anthony, They're going to get rid of all their weird child, you know, LGBT stuff because it doesn't make money and it freaks people out.

01:30:25.000 And these big corporations are going to... What they're going to do is, they're going to start shoveling all that stuff into the back, under the rug, and be like, no, no, no, we were never about that.

01:30:34.000 We like what you like.

01:30:35.000 Come give us your money.

01:30:36.000 Yes, what is popular, what is popular.

01:30:38.000 Absolutely, and you know what?

01:30:39.000 Us too, of course.

01:30:40.000 I still despise the Faceless Corporation, but we want Target to replace their Pride section with the, you know, Appalachian Music Collection.

01:30:48.000 You want them to be chasing your values.

01:30:50.000 I think that would be an incredible win.

01:30:53.000 It'd be nice to see this happen.

01:30:54.000 You don't turn it around and make it so that the industry is actually chasing what everyone likes, not the industry telling everyone what they like, and then selling them what the industry tells them.

01:31:02.000 You should like this.

01:31:03.000 It's people saying, I actually like this, and then forcing those companies to catch up.

01:31:06.000 Like, oh, okay, we'll sell you this then because you like it, you know?

01:31:10.000 Yeah, well, you said pride, and I was like, I mean, this guy's got American pride.

01:31:13.000 He's singing about the threads of the United States.

01:31:16.000 It's funny that Try That in a Small Town is currently number six.

01:31:20.000 Oh wow.

01:31:21.000 They're so salty about all of this country music taking off.

01:31:24.000 And Fast Car, Luke Combs got in trouble for singing it, even though Tracy Chapman was like, no it's fine if he covers it.

01:31:29.000 And they were like, no, a white man cannot sing this song!

01:31:33.000 And it's still there.

01:31:33.000 Oh, Fast Car?

01:31:34.000 Who covered it?

01:31:35.000 Luke Combs, who's like a country singer.

01:31:37.000 Dude, what a great song.

01:31:39.000 Oh, Tracy Chapman's amazing.

01:31:41.000 Is this the top or is this country?

01:31:43.000 This is top.

01:31:44.000 All songs.

01:31:45.000 It's impressive.

01:31:46.000 So John Rich is working with Oliver right now?

01:31:48.000 Chris?

01:31:50.000 That's what I heard.

01:31:50.000 That's so good.

01:31:51.000 I texted John.

01:31:52.000 He has been helping him out.

01:31:55.000 He offered to put him on a label or whatever, like help the public.

01:32:01.000 I got goosebumps again, man.

01:32:03.000 John Rich, we went to his place.

01:32:04.000 He's got a magnificent headquarters.

01:32:06.000 It's like a multi-storied, giant compound.

01:32:09.000 The guitar pool.

01:32:10.000 On like the fifth or fourth floor.

01:32:12.000 No, he literally, his pool.

01:32:14.000 It's a guitar.

01:32:14.000 Oh, it's a guitar.

01:32:15.000 You can see it from the roof.

01:32:17.000 Did you go to the music stage, the sound stage on the fourth floor or whatever?

01:32:20.000 And it's like two stories.

01:32:21.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:32:22.000 We have photos over there.

01:32:23.000 We got to jam on his stage.

01:32:24.000 The best part about it is that when he tells you The zoning story.

01:32:29.000 And I can't remember all the particulars of it because but he was, they were like, well, you can't do this with your house, right?

01:32:35.000 Because of where it lies.

01:32:36.000 Because we say so.

01:32:37.000 Because it's a national property.

01:32:38.000 So he's like, well, then what I will do is I will carve this.

01:32:42.000 I mean, like, it's a master, like, I love talking to him about his stories because if you ever know the story about how John Rich got redneck Riviera, have you ever heard this?

01:32:52.000 No.

01:32:53.000 I'll give you the cliff note version.

01:32:54.000 So he goes to trademark and his lawyer comes back and says, yeah, the patent and trademark office says you can't trademark a geographic location.

01:33:01.000 And so I'm sorry, we can't do it.

01:33:03.000 And John Rich goes, oh, okay, where is it?

01:33:07.000 And they said, what do you mean?

01:33:08.000 He goes, well, you said it's a geographic location, so where's the Redneck Riviera? 0.52

01:33:12.000 And they go, he goes, just tell me.

01:33:16.000 And they go, it's on the panhandle of Florida.

01:33:18.000 He goes, oh, because I'm also seeing that it's in a place in Delaware off the coast of, you know, such and such in Texas.

01:33:24.000 And he goes, so there's like 62 places that claim to be the Redneck Riviera.

01:33:28.000 And he's like, so which geographic place am I trademarking?

01:33:32.000 And after a fight back and forth with all of these lawyers in the Patent and Trademark Office, finally they were like, you win.

01:33:39.000 So he owns the patent to Redneck Riviera because... The trademark?

01:33:44.000 The trademark to it, because initially the government and the lawyers were like, no, unfortunately.

01:33:49.000 And he's like, no, I'm not going to take no for an answer.

01:33:52.000 And he fought and fought and fought, and now he's got Redneck Rivera liquor and jerky and barbecue sauce.

01:33:58.000 Low-key genius.

01:34:00.000 That dude's brilliant.

01:34:01.000 He's so humble when I met him.

01:34:02.000 He was so nice to have on.

01:34:03.000 I loved when he was on the show.

01:34:04.000 I met him and I just looked over and I was like, oh, just a guy sitting there.

01:34:07.000 I didn't even know if he was going to be our guest.

01:34:08.000 I didn't know who he was.

01:34:08.000 And then I started talking to him.

01:34:09.000 I'm like, hey, this guy's legit.

01:34:10.000 And then I got to know more.

01:34:11.000 And then I realized his business acumen.

01:34:13.000 But he's so humble.

01:34:15.000 I wouldn't know, talking to him, that he's this genius businessman.

01:34:18.000 It is funny being in his, what was it, like his third floor or whatever, which is his house.

01:34:22.000 It's a music venue and bar.

01:34:24.000 And then I'm like, oh, what are all these?

01:34:25.000 And he's like, oh, those are all my chart-topping songs.

01:34:27.000 And there's like this row going across the wall.

01:34:29.000 I'm like, holy.

01:34:30.000 He's got the original lyrics to all of these songs that he wrote that smash the charts.

01:34:34.000 Yes, yeah.

01:34:35.000 And other artists too that he's followed throughout the years.

01:34:38.000 He's got like their original lyrics that they scrawled on like, I don't know, his napkin or paper.

01:34:42.000 Yeah.

01:34:43.000 He's got it framed on his wall.

01:34:44.000 He is an unbelievably brilliant businessman.

01:34:48.000 What a good guy, too.

01:34:49.000 What a nice guy.

01:34:49.000 I love him.

01:34:50.000 Before we go to Super Chats, it was an honor to be invited to John's house to hang out with him.

01:34:54.000 He's a good dude.

01:34:54.000 Glad to have him on the show.

01:34:56.000 Really excited for the stuff he's working on.

01:34:57.000 Really excited for Oliver Anthony.

01:34:59.000 Let's read Super Chats!

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01:35:10.000 And we will take calls from you, the members, and you can actually talk to us and our guest.

01:35:15.000 All right, let's go.

01:35:17.000 Blave Kaiser says, there will be no coffee purchases until we get Seamus' sweet potato pie swirl and vociferon herald of the winter blend.

01:35:27.000 We are working right now on the Seamus blend, actually.

01:35:30.000 Yes.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, we've got a couple.

01:35:31.000 We have re-rise with Roberto Jr.

01:35:33.000 because as much as we love and miss Roberto Jr., we are not without humor.

01:35:39.000 So we have a special limited edition, limited edition Halloween blend that we're gonna be putting together.

01:35:45.000 We're only going to do 500 bags of it, and we're hoping that we can number the bags.

01:35:49.000 I'm not sure that we can.

01:35:50.000 We're reaching out to the company who makes the bags, because they have to be hand-labeled.

01:35:54.000 And then, if we can, it'll be cool.

01:35:56.000 You'll get, like, bag one of 500, two of 500.

01:35:58.000 Could we do 666 bags, or is that too edgy?

01:36:01.000 We might not be able to because of the way they do bag printing, but we can try.

01:36:04.000 That'd be nice.

01:36:05.000 And it's for Halloween, so... So Seamus is playing.

01:36:08.000 Seamus will come here and throw holy water on all of you.

01:36:10.000 Irish coffee?

01:36:11.000 No, no.

01:36:12.000 Too generic?

01:36:13.000 Yeah, it didn't really work.

01:36:14.000 We tried.

01:36:15.000 We did.

01:36:15.000 We got samples, and we tried to put together some kind of... It didn't really work, so we gotta figure out something that works for Seamus.

01:36:22.000 You know, I think like a more earthy dark roast, so that we equate it to potatoes.

01:36:27.000 I like the sweet potato blend.

01:36:29.000 I mean, I don't know how we do that.

01:36:30.000 That kind of sounds gross, but maybe it would be...

01:36:32.000 Earthy, earthy Ireland. 0.78

01:36:34.000 You should just put Seamus's face on the bag.

01:36:36.000 We have little cartoon Seamus's.

01:36:39.000 And then there's a couple other we were going to do.

01:36:41.000 I think we want to do an Alex Stein one.

01:36:43.000 That'd be great.

01:36:45.000 Yeah.

01:36:45.000 Yep.

01:36:46.000 Primetime grind.

01:36:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:47.000 That'd be great.

01:36:48.000 That'd be so funny.

01:36:49.000 Just like extra caffeine in that one.

01:36:52.000 Yeah, we could do.

01:36:53.000 Yeah, that's actually a really good idea.

01:36:56.000 Primetime Stein.

01:36:57.000 Caffeine 99.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, I love that.

01:36:59.000 Alright, here we go. Waffle says, okay, okay, new plan.

01:37:02.000 Trump goes to prison, we elect Vivek.

01:37:04.000 Vivek makes Trump VP, Vivek wins, and then Vivek resigns and becomes Trump VP. Checkmate.

01:37:10.000 I don't think Vivek would resign if he got elected president.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, they would be able to do something. That would be fun, but...

01:37:16.000 He's, uh...

01:37:18.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says...

01:37:19.000 says, better plan.

01:37:20.000 Trump raises an army of anti-fascists and they take over the White House and call it what?

01:37:25.000 White House Antifa territory.

01:37:26.000 Trump reigns as king.

01:37:28.000 Ha ha.

01:37:29.000 I guess the funny thing is if Antifa stormed the White House, nothing would happen.

01:37:32.000 The FBI would be like, well, that's fine.

01:37:34.000 Totally okay.

01:37:35.000 They're peacefully occupying the White House.

01:37:38.000 We love it when they do this.

01:37:39.000 Yeah, don't mind those fires.

01:37:42.000 All right, we'll grab some more super chits.

01:37:45.000 Alistair Vucin says, everybody needs to go out and vote in 2024, even if you think it doesn't matter.

01:37:49.000 If you can't take a few hours to cast a ballot, then you might as well shut up, sit down, and wait for the downfall of the US.

01:37:54.000 True.

01:37:55.000 Here's the other thing y'all should do right now is go to iTunes and buy Rich Men North of Richmond.

01:38:00.000 Buy it.

01:38:00.000 What do you think, Sean?

01:38:02.000 If you can't because the dollar really stresses you out, I get it, man.

01:38:04.000 You know, don't do that.

01:38:05.000 Some people really are trying to make every penny go as far as possible, especially with costs.

01:38:10.000 But if you have the dollar, buy that song, man.

01:38:13.000 And if you got the ears, give it a listen.

01:38:15.000 Make Oliver Anthony a millionaire, and make him double platinum, and make all of these industry celebrities beg to be a part of something wholesome and good.

01:38:24.000 Force the culture to abandon the creepy, woke garbage, and embrace the wholesome and the good.

01:38:29.000 That super chatter mentioned voting, like making voting more challenging? 0.97

01:38:32.000 Is that what they were saying?

01:38:34.000 No, I'm just saying to make sure you go out.

01:38:36.000 What it made me think of is something Vivek Ramaswamy's been talking about, which is that we could increase the bar to be able to vote, that anyone that's 18 years old would have to pass a civics test, just like someone that wanted to get citizenship in order to gain the right to vote at 18.

01:38:48.000 Do you support that?

01:38:49.000 No, I don't.

01:38:51.000 I mean, look, I think at some point, I get his point, but this is a breakdown.

01:38:57.000 We've got to start putting history back in classrooms.

01:39:01.000 Having a test, and again, who's going to write the test?

01:39:03.000 The same numb nuts that are running everything right now?

01:39:06.000 I don't trust the government to put a test together.

01:39:08.000 Have you ever looked at the citizenship test?

01:39:10.000 It's 100 questions that they give you.

01:39:11.000 You have to get 10 right.

01:39:13.000 So I get his point, but I'm not trusting a bunch of bureaucrats to put a test together because I know who's not going to pass it.

01:39:19.000 Well, I like when we talked, he said, how about when you sign up for the Selective Service, you get your voter ID card.

01:39:25.000 So you can choose to sign up or not, men and women both.

01:39:28.000 If you want to vote, you sign up, that's it.

01:39:30.000 No guarantee you get drafted, but in order to vote, you have to.

01:39:34.000 I think there is an element of public service that I don't mind.

01:39:37.000 I think you go that route and you'd be surprised Democrats lose all their voters.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, but I agree.

01:39:43.000 And that massive resistance.

01:39:45.000 Like I said, I'm a fan of having to serve the country.

01:39:49.000 But I just can't.

01:39:50.000 I mean, enough of these guys control enough levers that they're never going to let anything go through.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:39:56.000 I'm Not Your Guy Friend says Alexstine99 was hysterical calling out far-right Tom Poole as he once again trolled the Plano, Texas town council.

01:40:04.000 Did you guys see that?

01:40:05.000 No.

01:40:06.000 Oh wait, I think when he had blue hair?

01:40:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:08.000 Did he mention me or the show?

01:40:10.000 I don't think so, no.

01:40:11.000 No?

01:40:12.000 I just heard him screaming till they shut his camera off and then he was like, why'd you shut me down?

01:40:16.000 Why'd you shut me down?

01:40:17.000 He's still recording it, it's awesome.

01:40:19.000 Ray Jacobs says, Hannah Giles, the CEO of Veritas, is actually an accomplished black belt at my jujitsu school in Miami.

01:40:25.000 Whether you like her or not, she is someone that you don't want to pick a fight with on the street.

01:40:29.000 She is very, very good.

01:40:31.000 You know, I hear that, but...

01:40:35.000 I don't know what that has to do with firing people and not fundraising and betraying staff or whatever.

01:40:42.000 Mark Zuckerberg's a blue belt.

01:40:44.000 I don't know how that's relevant to me.

01:40:45.000 She'll beat you up, I guess. 0.80

01:40:46.000 We're never gonna fight.

01:40:47.000 I'm not gonna be like, Mark, before we have this debate, we're gonna do a sanctioned match.

01:40:53.000 Yeah, don't go and fight her.

01:40:55.000 I think it is fair to say this, because I am a humble person.

01:40:58.000 I think it is fair to say that Mark Zuckerberg could beat up everybody in this room.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, probably.

01:41:02.000 Oh, yeah, Alex Stein did say Tim Pool.

01:41:05.000 He was like, you guys are censoring far-right activists like Tim Pool.

01:41:10.000 I mean, he said something like that.

01:41:11.000 It was really funny.

01:41:12.000 Did he say Tim or Tom?

01:41:14.000 He said Tim.

01:41:15.000 I remember listening to it.

01:41:15.000 I remember he mentioned you.

01:41:17.000 A lot of people would want to be big and tough and be like, I could take Zuckerberg.

01:41:20.000 I'm like, maybe, because he's not that big of a guy.

01:41:22.000 I guess Elon Musk said, with my height and weight advantage, I'm probably going to win, even with training.

01:41:28.000 And that's a fair point.

01:41:29.000 But, uh, I think it's fair to say, like, I'm not- I'm never gonna pretend that I can take someone in a fight who's literally training in jiu-jitsu or something like that.

01:41:38.000 I will just defer to- oh, they'll probably beat me up. 0.89

01:41:40.000 I'll try.

01:41:41.000 I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe I could do it.

01:41:42.000 At this point, I think Elon's trolling.

01:41:44.000 I don't think he has any intention of- No, Zuckerberg's the one who pulled out!

01:41:47.000 Yeah, but that's because Elon wasn't following through.

01:41:49.000 Not true.

01:41:50.000 Elon, I don't believe that for a second.

01:41:52.000 Elon said he had an injury or something?

01:41:53.000 It's because Mark Zuckerberg was like, this should be going through UFC or one.

01:41:57.000 And Elon was like, we should do it in Italy at the Coliseum.

01:42:00.000 And Mark Zuckerberg was like, that's not a serious match.

01:42:03.000 Yep.

01:42:04.000 I feel like the Coliseum is a pretty serious place to have a match.

01:42:07.000 Elon's idea was a more goofy thing, and Zuckerberg's like, no, I want a UFC title card.

01:42:11.000 Yeah, he said it was gonna look purely Roman, like old Roman.

01:42:13.000 All the modern stuff would not be in the frame, so it'd just look like an old, you know, Coliseum battle.

01:42:18.000 I feel like Mark Zuckerberg's just trying to get away from the fact that everyone thinks he's kind of a robot.

01:42:23.000 I think Mark is like, I would hurt that guy, and I don't want to hurt his neck.

01:42:27.000 I don't want to break his arm, and he's old, and I don't want to do that to him.

01:42:30.000 They could have made the fight in like six months, and then if Elon had just done all that the entire time and trained, then it would have been, you know.

01:42:36.000 So you think if Mark had called his bluff when Elon said, come over to my house, or I'll come over to your house, do you really think that you think it would have gone through?

01:42:46.000 Right then and there?

01:42:47.000 Yeah.

01:42:47.000 If he said, fine, come on over, Elon would have shown up.

01:42:50.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:42:51.000 They might have done a photo op though.

01:42:52.000 Elon went and did practice with Lex Fridman.

01:42:56.000 Practice is practice.

01:42:57.000 I was gonna say, Lex Fridman is not a jiu-jitsu actor, right?

01:42:59.000 No, no, no.

01:43:00.000 Elon... Yes, he is.

01:43:01.000 He is?

01:43:01.000 Yes.

01:43:02.000 Lex rolls.

01:43:02.000 Yeah.

01:43:03.000 I don't know what his belt is.

01:43:04.000 Sorry, I don't really keep up with Lex Fridman.

01:43:05.000 You should.

01:43:06.000 Yeah, he's a martial artist.

01:43:07.000 That's so funny.

01:43:08.000 But Elon said he wanted to have a practice bout with Mark.

01:43:12.000 It sounds like Elon is more having a silly fun time and he wanted to goof off and Zuckerberg wants a serious UFC match.

01:43:18.000 And Lex is a brown belt, for reference.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, Lex, I watched some videos, he knows what he's doing.

01:43:23.000 He said it was the toughest.

01:43:25.000 Lex, no question, would beat up everybody in this room.

01:43:27.000 But would he beat up Mark Zuckerberg?

01:43:28.000 That's the question.

01:43:29.000 Absolutely, no question.

01:43:29.000 If he's a blue belt, if Mark Zuckerberg's a blue belt and he's a brown belt, yes, he would.

01:43:34.000 It's like, I don't know how much I care about the idea that someone accredited you with a colored belt.

01:43:39.000 It's just fair to say that Fridman's got way more experience fighting.

01:43:42.000 Yeah, it's just time spent doing it, you know?

01:43:44.000 Yeah.

01:43:47.000 I love Lex so much.

01:43:49.000 Let's see, chcowboys says, I believe if Trump goes to prison, that is the clearest sign we're dealing with communists.

01:43:54.000 Let me let me just pause right there and be like, we have they're holding up giant red flags.

01:43:59.000 Literally, they are holding up giant red communist flags.

01:44:03.000 You know, his I fear there can't be peaceful resolution if we're dealing with a Marxist insurgency.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 I think it's funny when it's like, when you see an Antifa rally, the biggest red flag that you're dealing with communists is that they're holding up a large red communist flag.

01:44:18.000 A large communist flag.

01:44:24.000 What is this?

01:44:26.000 Cap says, saw an article on my phone today that said the posting Georgia indictments early wasn't an accident, but a practice run. 0.99

01:44:34.000 These people are insane. 0.95

01:44:35.000 They are? 1.00

01:44:35.000 Yep, they are. 1.00

01:44:38.000 Shred Cow says, what are your thoughts on Mike Lindell's big plan revealed today?

01:44:42.000 I don't know, what was it?

01:44:42.000 Did anyone see it?

01:44:44.000 Oh, that's what he was talking about on our... On the loudest Culture War of all time on record.

01:44:49.000 The big plan!

01:44:50.000 I didn't watch it, I'll go back and check it out.

01:44:52.000 Neither did I, but he did mention that he wanted to come on the show.

01:44:55.000 On the 18th, i.e.

01:44:56.000 tomorrow, to come and discuss what he was going to talk about last night.

01:44:59.000 I don't think he's going to be here tomorrow.

01:45:00.000 I don't either.

01:45:01.000 That was Matt Brainerd and Mike Lindell.

01:45:03.000 It was a very loud culture.

01:45:05.000 I highly recommend everyone watch it.

01:45:06.000 Oh, tomorrow's going to be wild.

01:45:07.000 Tomorrow we have Laura Loomer, Bill Mitchell, and Kyle Becker.

01:45:11.000 Yeah.

01:45:12.000 And I. Very interesting.

01:45:13.000 And we're going to have a... We're going to attempt to have a conversation.

01:45:18.000 Spirited debate.

01:45:18.000 Cool.

01:45:20.000 I think it'll be cool.

01:45:21.000 I think it'll be an interesting conversation that I think a lot of people want to hear.

01:45:25.000 It just might be very lively.

01:45:27.000 That's how I know to describe culture war.

01:45:29.000 Get your Timcast brew.

01:45:31.000 Ready to go.

01:45:31.000 Brew that coffee early because it goes live at what, 9am or 10am?

01:45:36.000 10am.

01:45:36.000 10am live tomorrow morning at youtube.com slash timcast and I imagine it's going to be Laura spitting hard facts very, very, very, very fast.

01:45:45.000 Yes.

01:45:47.000 Yeah.

01:45:47.000 Okay, so don't let her gish gallop.

01:45:49.000 You've got to hold control.

01:45:51.000 We'll see.

01:45:52.000 I honestly think the issue is, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, Ron DeSantis is a donor, is this, that, or otherwise.

01:45:59.000 But I think talking about the campaign and, you know, policy, it's like, there's fair criticisms.

01:46:04.000 We'll see how it goes.

01:46:05.000 We'll see how it goes.

01:46:06.000 I think it'll be a good time.

01:46:07.000 The thing that I find interesting, and again, there's this sort of existential debate about who's better or worse.

01:46:12.000 I try to, I keep looking at things very analytically, and which I said earlier in the show, If he doesn't win Iowa, it doesn't matter.

01:46:21.000 Trump's gonna—it's over.

01:46:24.000 This is all about accumulating the requisite number of delegates, about 1,400 delegates.

01:46:30.000 You don't get delegates by coming—if you don't— Beat the guy, right?

01:46:35.000 And at the end of the day, this good bad, it's an existential debate because at the end of the day right now, Trump's organization in these early states is such that unless you show he can be beat, he's going to steamroll, collect the requisite number of delegates, and it's over by Super Tuesday.

01:46:50.000 So you can tell me that Ron DeSantis has the magic formula to do everything in the world.

01:46:56.000 If he can't actually take down Trump in Iowa, because he's not really competing as much in New Hampshire, then it doesn't matter.

01:47:03.000 Right, and that's what I keep coming back to.

01:47:06.000 Tell me how he can win.

01:47:07.000 Alright, Blake says, Tim, the Republican Party is the party of the working class.

01:47:12.000 The working class is mostly normie folk. 0.97

01:47:13.000 Sean is right, people won't react to Biden ballot.

01:47:17.000 I just like the Sean is right part.

01:47:19.000 Yeah, it was a good point.

01:47:22.000 Yeah, I may just clip that.

01:47:23.000 Over and over again.

01:47:24.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 Jason Hutchinson says, Kevin McCarthy, with a need for only one challenger to challenge

01:47:29.000 his speaker position after screwing us in the debt ceiling and the last budget fight,

01:47:33.000 announced that he would do another continuing resolution on the next budget bill and no

01:47:36.000 one challenge.

01:47:37.000 I remember talking to Matt Gaetz about the debt ceiling and how they keep raising it.

01:47:41.000 My whole life, they've just raised the debt ceiling.

01:47:43.000 I'm like, what is it?

01:47:44.000 Is this a joke?

01:47:45.000 Like they say it's a ceiling that they continue to raise.

01:47:47.000 There's no ceiling. 0.96

01:47:48.000 And Matt was just looking at me like smiling because he knew how ridiculous it is. 0.82

01:47:52.000 How do you, what do we do?

01:47:53.000 I mean, it's just, there is no, I mean, I guess you could say it's a temporary ceiling that's going to be moved to a new position.

01:47:57.000 But beyond that, what infuriates me is that when you have the fight, they say, you can't fight because if we don't do this, this is what's going to happen.

01:48:03.000 I get that, right?

01:48:04.000 There's these economic consequences, which are debatable.

01:48:07.000 But the point is, is that every time that we get there, they go, if we do this, all these bad things are going to happen.

01:48:11.000 So let's wait till after, let's raise it.

01:48:13.000 And then they, it's no one ever does anything.

01:48:16.000 It's literally like saying, you know, you got to lose weight, but let's just go to the buffet one more time.

01:48:21.000 And then no one actually ever does any.

01:48:23.000 I just don't get the debate.

01:48:25.000 There are so many low-hanging fruits that could be dealt with, and these guys wait until the last minute, and they're going to do it again.

01:48:33.000 We're heading towards September.

01:48:35.000 I think Congress is in session 12 days, and they're going to go, we have to do a CR because the government's going to run out of money.

01:48:40.000 Well, where were you the 11 last months?

01:48:43.000 We do this, whether it's a debt ceiling or the continuing resolutions at the end of the year.

01:48:48.000 Every time.

01:48:48.000 And then it's, guys, we're running out of time.

01:48:51.000 We gotta do this.

01:48:52.000 Yeah, I found out that we can make hydrogen fuel real cheap now.

01:48:55.000 We can actually get paid to make hydrogen because you get the byproduct of graphene, but carbon, and they can turn into graphene and sell the graphene for $4.50 for every kilogram of carbon, or of hydrogen that they produce.

01:49:05.000 So like, we basically figured out how to make free hydrogen, how to get paid for making hydrogen.

01:49:09.000 Why is that not immediately implemented now in the government?

01:49:11.000 Why is that not immediately the number one move for the United States government?

01:49:15.000 Because that will make- That's very specific.

01:49:18.000 Maybe the Energy Committee should be asked that question.

01:49:19.000 But also, you're on the revenue side, which I am a fan of as well, but why are we, Republicans, the Constitution says that the House of Representatives where all funding shall start.

01:49:31.000 There's so many low-hanging fruit.

01:49:32.000 Why are we funding PBS and NPR?

01:49:36.000 That should be like, I mean, and that's a minuscule amount.

01:49:39.000 But the illustrative stuff, show that you actually care.

01:49:43.000 I just don't get these easy ones.

01:49:45.000 Those are the layups.

01:49:46.000 Everybody would say, great, you can get it.

01:49:49.000 Again, I just can't.

01:49:50.000 I want to read this one here.

01:49:51.000 This is from, what does it say?

01:49:53.000 J Train M. Come to Moyick, North Carolina. 0.61

01:49:57.000 Is that how you pronounce it?

01:49:58.000 Oliver is playing this Saturday at Eagle Creek Golf Course.

01:50:02.000 Nice.

01:50:03.000 So you heard it here.

01:50:04.000 Everybody go.

01:50:05.000 Oh my god.

01:50:06.000 Can you imagine being the manager at Eagle Creek Golf Course?

01:50:09.000 They're getting phone calls right now.

01:50:11.000 Get your tickets.

01:50:12.000 He put out a tweet that was like, I'll be at this farmer's market on August 15th.

01:50:18.000 It's so flooded, man.

01:50:19.000 Yeah, I think it was crazy.

01:50:20.000 He was like, I'll stay until 2am and shake hands.

01:50:23.000 Like I'm thinking that poor farmer's market organizer must be like, but what about the parking?

01:50:28.000 Fender the Offender says, Tim, do you think the U.S.

01:50:30.000 will be in an active civil war and World War III if it escalates to that in the same time period?

01:50:34.000 No.

01:50:35.000 Because if the U.S.

01:50:36.000 does destabilize to the point of civil war, we won't be involved in World War III, we'll be involved in a civil war, and there will be no World War III.

01:50:44.000 That's what happened with the Bolshevik Revolution, is they went internal, split off, and they basically weren't involved in World War I. They were, and then the revolution began, and then they pulled out.

01:50:56.000 It'll be interesting times.

01:50:58.000 Cosmic Surgeon says, none watched Mike Lindell today, no ballot harvesting.

01:51:02.000 I didn't watch Mike Lindell.

01:51:05.000 Is that what it was about?

01:51:05.000 I mean he was a yeah he said when he was here to debate that he was against ballots harvesting.

01:51:09.000 Why?

01:51:09.000 He was just saying he was saying that we needed to uh stick to the rules that if you uh if you're ballot harvesting from I don't want to paraphrase his argument too much but if you're ballot harvesting you're doing something that we shouldn't support anyways everyone should show up on election day and have paper ballots and vote in person uh and the conversation was interesting because it's you know a question of like well these are the rules we have should we let I don't disagree with them, but the ship has sailed.

01:51:41.000 This is the point that we were talking about earlier.

01:51:43.000 Guys, guess what? 0.98

01:51:44.000 I think ballot harvesting is ridiculous. 0.70

01:51:46.000 In fact, it was illegal in a lot of states, and yet the Dems weaponized it. 0.59

01:51:49.000 The ship has sailed.

01:51:51.000 Either we keep complaining about it, or we find out a way to undo it, but you can't We're literally going to let them get away with this and win more and more and more.

01:52:01.000 So I'm with Mike in principle, but either change the law or get on board.

01:52:07.000 Warren Heist says, I just watched that Arizona is going for the fifth indictment.

01:52:11.000 That's right.

01:52:12.000 Yeah, but I think what I heard about Arizona is they're going after the state level stuff.

01:52:15.000 We'll see if they go after Trump.

01:52:16.000 I could be wrong.

01:52:17.000 Maybe they are.

01:52:18.000 Business Phone says Ian watched the whole clip.

01:52:21.000 The code would change the vote count and then eat itself so it couldn't be detected if the source code was examined.

01:52:27.000 In person, hand-counted, destructible paper ballots like we used to.

01:52:30.000 I'm sorry.

01:52:31.000 Wait.

01:52:32.000 He said that the code would eat itself?

01:52:33.000 The guy who said he hacked the voting machine said the code he put on it would change the votes and then self-destruct.

01:52:38.000 No, he didn't.

01:52:39.000 No, he hasn't.

01:52:40.000 No, he said that you wouldn't know that it changed the votes unless you have access to the code and you don't have access to the code.

01:52:45.000 That's what the guy said.

01:52:46.000 This person says if you watch the whole clip... I'll re-watch it again.

01:52:49.000 Maybe you're watching a shorter version of it.

01:52:50.000 Okay, thanks.

01:52:54.000 What do we have here?

01:52:55.000 Guga Siman says, North Brazil former president Bolsonaro was sentenced to eight years of eligibility by the Superior Electoral Court for saying that the voting machines were unreliable.

01:53:07.000 Eight years of eligibility?

01:53:08.000 What does that mean?

01:53:08.000 Probably ineligibility.

01:53:10.000 Ineligibility?

01:53:10.000 I imagine so.

01:53:12.000 Mookie says, got the Appalachian Nights coffee.

01:53:15.000 Smoothest coffee I've ever had.

01:53:16.000 Will buy again.

01:53:18.000 It's amazing.

01:53:18.000 Look, I'll be completely honest with my assessment on the coffee.

01:53:21.000 Roberto, Rides With Roberto Jr., 10 out of 10.

01:53:25.000 It's my favorite.

01:53:26.000 And then I have Appalachian Nights, and I'm like, oh man, 10 out of 10.

01:53:28.000 This one's my favorite.

01:53:29.000 Pumpkin Spice is mine.

01:53:30.000 It's good.

01:53:31.000 It's good.

01:53:31.000 Not my favorite, but it's good.

01:53:33.000 And Stand Your Grounds is, so Rides With Roberto Jr.

01:53:37.000 and Appalachian Nights are battling for my top position because one's light, one's dark, but man, they're both good.

01:53:41.000 And then Stand Your Grounds is like right there in the middle.

01:53:44.000 French Roast, to me, is a C, C+.

01:53:47.000 It's good.

01:53:48.000 It's a good cup of coffee.

01:53:48.000 It's better than, like, you know, gas station coffee or something like that.

01:53:51.000 So I enjoy it.

01:53:52.000 But I gotta tell you, the Appalachian Nights.

01:53:55.000 Oof.

01:53:55.000 Wow.

01:53:56.000 And I have yet to try the decaf ones, though.

01:53:59.000 We did the samples of them a long time ago.

01:54:01.000 I'll put it that way.

01:54:01.000 Like, I've tried them all.

01:54:03.000 But I need to have a cup of coffee now that they're here, packaged and cracked open, because getting sample packages is different.

01:54:07.000 I tasted the Sleepy Joe.

01:54:09.000 It's a little sweet, surprisingly, and like, bitter.

01:54:13.000 It's like bittersweet.

01:54:14.000 I don't know.

01:54:14.000 I didn't see the beans.

01:54:16.000 And then it doesn't have much of an aftertaste.

01:54:18.000 It's very clean.

01:54:18.000 It's awesome.

01:54:19.000 It's cool.

01:54:21.000 Let's grab some more.

01:54:22.000 Dylan Gilman says, please provide a link to sign up for Cast Brew Franchising Newsletter.

01:54:26.000 We don't have one!

01:54:28.000 We have literally done nothing towards the concept of franchising Cast Brew, but I want to.

01:54:32.000 Because I would love it if there were a thousand locations in five years and it was just a decentralized network.

01:54:37.000 That's what it's all about.

01:54:39.000 Everybody runs their own locations, but people know that you can hang out there.

01:54:42.000 What I'm really excited for with it is something we're talking about doing called Saturday Morning Cartoons, where parents bring their kids in.

01:54:48.000 It's like 7 a.m.

01:54:50.000 We have pancakes, sausage, eggs, like buffet style, and then the kids play and hang out.

01:54:54.000 The TVs are on with approved Saturday Morning Cartoons, and then you hang out till whenever you feel like it.

01:54:59.000 Maybe the event ends at noon or whatever.

01:55:01.000 But when I grew up, we had Saturday Morning Cartoons.

01:55:04.000 And now you don't have any of that anymore. So this is a kind of like a secular community building thing where a lot

01:55:08.000 of people who don't go to church, they come to this and they hang out and it gives some kind of facsimile of it. I

01:55:13.000 don't think it's a perfect exchange, but people meeting their neighbors, kids growing up near each other and

01:55:17.000 becoming friends, I think is a really, really important thing.

01:55:20.000 Would you, would you, and I'm just throwing this out there, I'm brainstorming, would you be willing to consider the new

01:55:25.000 Sean Spicer show going on like in the afternoon?

01:55:28.000 Absolutely.

01:55:28.000 That's the plan.

01:55:29.000 The plan is that we have these TVs and when there'll be some woman on her way to work and she'll be like, I need to grab a cup of coffee and then she'll look on her phone and She'll be like, okay, you know, Casper coffee. 1.00

01:55:39.000 She walks in, she walks with the counter and she goes, I'll take the dark roast and leave room for cream. 1.00

01:55:44.000 And they're like, you got it.

01:55:45.000 And while they're pouring it, she's like getting her money out.

01:55:47.000 She looks up and there's a TV and there's Steven Crowder talking about something or there's Viva Frye or there's Sean Spicer.

01:55:53.000 And then she's just sitting there.

01:55:54.000 They go, here's your coffee, man.

01:55:55.000 She goes, oh, oh, thank you.

01:55:56.000 And she pays.

01:55:57.000 And then just holding the coffee and she's looking at it and she slips a little bit.

01:55:59.000 She goes, huh. 0.99

01:56:00.000 She walks out, she goes to work, and then someone's like, hey, Janet, how's it going?

01:56:03.000 She's like, how are you?

01:56:04.000 And it's like, no, no, what's going on?

01:56:05.000 Like, you know, I just heard about that thing, the Biden thing.

01:56:07.000 Did you see that?

01:56:08.000 Where he was telling the press to fire the guy, you know, give you the money or whatever.

01:56:11.000 Did you hear about that?

01:56:12.000 It's on the news or something.

01:56:14.000 That's what I, that's the goal.

01:56:15.000 You know, it'd be cool as if it was, the monitors were all Bluetooth and you could put...

01:56:19.000 It'd be nice if the volume's on, but sometimes I don't want to listen to TV when I'm drinking.

01:56:23.000 I just want to chill.

01:56:25.000 There's an area with the TV.

01:56:29.000 And so if you're standing away from it, you'll be able to hear it, but you can sit down in front of it and hear it.

01:56:33.000 A lot of places have it kind of like this.

01:56:35.000 The TV's on and you can sit down by it and you'll hear it.

01:56:38.000 Walk away from it and you don't.

01:56:39.000 Yo, we should get Pancake Maker for the kids so they can make their own pancakes. 1.00

01:56:44.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:56:45.000 They have the automatic.

01:56:45.000 automatic ones, you ever see them?

01:56:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:47.000 You press the button.

01:56:48.000 At hotels they have them.

01:56:49.000 Yep, you press the button and it's, you watch it.

01:56:50.000 The residents in it.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, those are great.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, it's fun.

01:56:53.000 And then it cooks them on both sides at the same time.

01:56:56.000 That's what we gotta get.

01:56:57.000 Getting hungry now.

01:56:58.000 Get a good batter.

01:56:59.000 Pancakes.

01:57:00.000 Okay, let's grab another Super Chat.

01:57:04.000 Matthew Schneider says, literally bought that song 10 seconds before you said buy it lol.

01:57:09.000 Great.

01:57:10.000 But you gotta tell your friends and family to buy it too.

01:57:12.000 So if you know anybody who was like, oh yeah, I love that song, or you know somebody who's listening to it, or you know someone you've shared with already, you gotta be like, hey guys, buy that on iTunes right now.

01:57:20.000 We want this guy to be a rockstar. 0.99

01:57:22.000 We want rockstars to be synonymous with being a good person who's singing about American values and fighting for the working class, and not about wet-ass pussy. 0.99

01:57:31.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:57:32.000 We gotta work for that, okay?

01:57:34.000 You gotta spend that dollar.

01:57:36.000 Realign the culture and win the culture war.

01:57:39.000 Joseph says, men, six feet in the ground.

01:57:41.000 Show respect, it's rough.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, man.

01:57:44.000 I watched a video where he was playing live, and I could see people singing along to it and nodding along, and you could see, like, these guys knew exactly what he was saying.

01:57:51.000 Amazing.

01:57:53.000 People are saying it's an anthem.

01:57:54.000 Wow.

01:57:57.000 Whoa, what do you got here?

01:57:58.000 We got some more Super Chats.

01:58:00.000 Joshua Lively says, this is my first real super chat to you guys, but I thought I should tell you, my family and I just saw a string of 20 to 30 green lights flying in the sky over the house.

01:58:09.000 Never saw anything like this.

01:58:10.000 Have video and photo to send as well.

01:58:12.000 Do you want to watch that?

01:58:14.000 Yeah.

01:58:15.000 Is it a video?

01:58:16.000 He just tweeted at you, right?

01:58:17.000 Yes, tweeted at Ian Crossland.

01:58:20.000 But I bet it was drums.

01:58:21.000 Make sure you're following him because he's in a race.

01:58:23.000 Yeah.

01:58:23.000 He needs support right now.

01:58:24.000 I'm in a race with Clint Russell.

01:58:25.000 Liberty Lockdown.

01:58:27.000 Pod.

01:58:29.000 To 100,000 followers.

01:58:31.000 It could be lasers.

01:58:32.000 Ray's Tiny Dinosaur says, RIP Roberto Jr.

01:58:35.000 I recently got six chicks. 1.00

01:58:37.000 One of them turned out to be a rooster, so I had to find him a new home.

01:58:39.000 His adoptive parents now want to find him a new home because he's so aggressive.

01:58:43.000 Frowny face.

01:58:44.000 That's the bummer about Roberto Jr.

01:58:45.000 He was super chill.

01:58:47.000 Roberto is aggressive.

01:58:50.000 He was the king.

01:58:52.000 And it's because he was born on a chicken farm and all the boys got culled but him because they thought he was a girl.

01:58:57.000 And then he got to grow up.

01:59:00.000 Roberto Jr.

01:59:00.000 was raised by us, so he was super calm and relaxed around people.

01:59:05.000 And then he had a heart attack and died suddenly.

01:59:07.000 Just abruptly.

01:59:08.000 And I looked it up and it's like, sometimes roosters have heart attacks. 0.99

01:59:10.000 And I was like, damn. 0.99

01:59:11.000 And then his sister died shortly after that. 1.00

01:59:13.000 Unrelated.

01:59:14.000 It's lots of tragedy around here with the chickens.

01:59:16.000 It's hard.

01:59:17.000 Chickens die a lot.

01:59:18.000 I think they can see, you know, birds can see the electromagnetic field.

01:59:21.000 They used to think it was like, I think it was iron in their beak, or a chemical in their beak that they could navigate with, but now they believe they can actually see, it's a protein in their eye or something, and they can actually see the Earth's magnetic field.

01:59:30.000 It's how they all fly in synergy, that murmuration where you see these big flocks all coming together and moving it.

01:59:36.000 They can actually see it.

01:59:37.000 I wonder if they could see it and if they were connected to it, and that's why his sister felt such pain that she flew away shortly after.

01:59:45.000 That's crazy.

01:59:46.000 It was three babies that hatched, the first eggs that we hatched, and they were a weak batch.

01:59:52.000 We knew it.

01:59:53.000 You know, like, the chickens we got were young.

01:59:56.000 They had their eggs.

01:59:57.000 We hatched them.

01:59:58.000 Now they got tons of babies. 0.95

01:59:59.000 Roberto's got... Oh, man.

02:00:02.000 Roberto's got like 30 kids and like 30 grandkids.

02:00:05.000 Did you decide who's gonna be his heir?

02:00:07.000 Not yet.

02:00:08.000 They've got a little bit older, but Roberto III.

02:00:10.000 Roberto Jr.' 's son.

02:00:12.000 Roberto Jr.

02:00:12.000 II.

02:00:12.000 Roberto Jr.

02:00:15.000 Jr.?

02:00:15.000 Yeah.

02:00:17.000 It was really funny.

02:00:19.000 It was the boxer, George Foreman, right?

02:00:23.000 George, George, George.

02:00:24.000 His daughters were like Georgina, right?

02:00:26.000 Yeah.

02:00:28.000 We were trying to figure out a name for Roberto Junior, and then I was just like, he's Junior.

02:00:32.000 You know, he's like Roberto's son.

02:00:34.000 And then they fought after a little while.

02:00:36.000 Roosters don't fight the way people think they fight.

02:00:39.000 Like, we have Little Luke in the Chicken City right now with Roberto.

02:00:42.000 They stay away from each other.

02:00:44.000 And they just mind their own business.

02:00:46.000 And then they have their girls or whatever.

02:00:48.000 But you can have a bunch of different roosters, depending on how many hens you have.

02:00:52.000 People think that you put two roosters together, they start going at each other.

02:00:54.000 They don't.

02:00:55.000 But, uh, sometimes they do.

02:00:57.000 Because they're like dudes.

02:00:58.000 You know, sometimes dudes fight.

02:00:59.000 That's what it is.

02:01:00.000 Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because the Members Only Uncensored show is starting in just a few minutes, and you don't want to miss it, it's going to be good fun.

02:01:13.000 We got a lot of stuff to talk about.

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02:01:19.000 Sean, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:20.000 Yeah, new show starts on Monday.

02:01:21.000 Please follow me, Sean M. Spicer, on YouTube.

02:01:24.000 You can go to Rumble, SeanSpicerShow.com, but same thing we've been talking about.

02:01:28.000 Please, I appreciate your support.

02:01:30.000 I want to build up a bigger subscriber base and be part of that community as we navigate this upcoming election, give you the behind-the-scenes take as to what's happening and why, and hopefully how we can use the rules to win again.

02:01:43.000 SeanSpicerShow.com, Sean M. Spicer on YouTube.

02:01:46.000 Thank you.

02:01:47.000 That's awesome.

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02:02:08.000 Thank you so much.

02:02:09.000 Ian Crossland, hit me up on X at Ian Crossland.

02:02:12.000 Sean Spicer, on X at Sean Spicer.

02:02:15.000 What time does your show go up on Monday?

02:02:17.000 Six o'clock.

02:02:18.000 Eastern?

02:02:19.000 Eastern.

02:02:19.000 6 p.m.

02:02:20.000 Eastern.

02:02:20.000 Sean M. Spicer.

02:02:21.000 So you finish that, then you can have a cup of Tim Cass brew, then jump right in.

02:02:26.000 I mean, we timed it.

02:02:27.000 I like the flavor.

02:02:28.000 Yeah.

02:02:29.000 And also, I'm in a race with Clint Russell, Liberty Lockdown Pod on X, and we are both heading towards 100,000 followers.

02:02:36.000 You must follow me and Clint Russell on X. See, I'm like Vivek, man.

02:02:42.000 I only want a fair contest here.

02:02:45.000 So I want to see.

02:02:46.000 Who's going to win?

02:02:47.000 Who's going to get to 100,000?

02:02:47.000 Is it going to be me or Clint?

02:02:49.000 Cast your vote, follow, like, subscribe, and I'll see you later.

02:02:54.000 I'm definitely going to follow Ian, but I follow both of you guys already, so it's whatever.

02:02:58.000 Yeah, I'm Surge.com.

02:03:00.000 I hope you guys have a wonderful evening, or if you are a member, please join us on the number show.

02:03:05.000 It'll be nice to hear you guys say stuff.

02:03:08.000 What else can I say?

02:03:09.000 I guess, shout out to the people of Maui right now.

02:03:11.000 Anyways, cheers.

02:03:12.000 All right, everybody.

02:03:12.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 17, 2023

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