Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump & Tucker To CRUSH Fox News GOP Debate With LIVE Interview w-Laura Loomer

00:00:00.000 On the same day as the GOP debate, Tucker Carlson will be interviewing Donald Trump

00:00:27.000 We don't know if it'll be the exact same time, but this is... It's gonna be very, very bad for the GOP debate, and it gives Trump exactly what he wants.

00:00:34.000 Center stage, with no interruptions.

00:00:37.000 And a lot of people are attacking Trump, saying he should debate, and the argument from the Trump camp is that, why?

00:00:41.000 Why would he give airtime to any of his detractors and opponents?

00:00:44.000 Now what's going to happen is that Trump's going to be doing this interview with Tucker, it's going to smash the internet, and I think the ratings for the GB debate will be much smaller than they'd hoped.

00:00:53.000 Partly this is due to Fox putting out this memo, or I should say there's a story, where Fox was saying that no one can rebroadcast or restream the debate.

00:01:01.000 Well, okay.

00:01:02.000 Then no one will talk about it.

00:01:03.000 So we'll talk about that, and also as sort of a follow-up to the conversation we were having this morning on the culture war with Trump vs. DeSantis and where that goes.

00:01:10.000 And then we've got some big cultural news.

00:01:12.000 Two big stories.

00:01:13.000 One, Elon Musk says he's gonna get rid of the block feature on X, which has everyone on X losing their minds.

00:01:20.000 Although I don't think it's the biggest story in the world, it could result in X getting banned from Apple if he actually does this.

00:01:25.000 So we'll see how that plays out.

00:01:27.000 We've got a bunch of other stories.

00:01:28.000 It's Friday night, so we'll goof off a little bit.

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00:03:16.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Laura Loomer.

00:03:20.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:21.000 Who are you?

00:03:22.000 What do you do?

00:03:23.000 Well, my name is Laura Loomer.

00:03:25.000 I'm an investigative journalist and a conservative activist.

00:03:28.000 I got my career started working undercover at Project Veritas with James O'Keefe, where I worked undercover exposing voter fraud, and I was embedded inside the Hillary Clinton campaign exposing corruption.

00:03:39.000 And after I went on or completed working with Project Veritas and James O'Keefe, I then started my own media company.

00:03:47.000 And I then, you know, started making my videos, which were called Loomerd videos, and amassed a very large online following and found myself banned on every single social media site.

00:03:59.000 And some banks too, right?

00:04:00.000 Yeah.

00:04:01.000 I was really one of the first people to be completely deplatformed as well.

00:04:04.000 So now I'm doing everything that I can to help President Trump.

00:04:08.000 I'm sure a lot of your viewers are familiar with Yes.

00:04:12.000 uh... who i am in the work that i've done and if they aren't it's probably

00:04:14.000 because i was the platform for seven years they ban you because you're too

00:04:18.000 effective yes when when you got banned from twitter you

00:04:21.000 coffee yourself to the doors of twitter yeah headquarters and you became the top trend on the

00:04:25.000 platform that tried to remove you

00:04:28.000 You had migrants go to Nancy Pelosi's house?

00:04:28.000 What else did you do?

00:04:30.000 Is that one thing?

00:04:31.000 Yeah, so when they wouldn't give the funding, right, to President Trump.

00:04:35.000 Remember when Nancy Pelosi shut the government down? 0.51

00:04:37.000 Yeah.

00:04:37.000 It was the longest shutdown in US history.

00:04:40.000 And I just decided, well, this is ridiculous.

00:04:43.000 It seems like they just want to have open borders. 0.77

00:04:46.000 And yet they live in mansions, a lot of these politicians, and they have their own secure homes.

00:04:52.000 Uh, she had said, I remember laying in bed watching the press conference in her bright pink blazer, she said, a wall is an abomination, a wall is an immorality, an immorality, and it is not who we are as a nation.

00:05:03.000 And I said, well, Nancy Pelosi has like 25 mansions and they all have walls.

00:05:07.000 So I was in Arizona at the time and I drove a rental car down to the US-Mexico border and I crossed over at the Ote Mesa line just to show people with my cameraman how easy it was to do.

00:05:20.000 And I said, well, you know, now that I'm in California, I hear there's a lot of really nice, generous Democrat politicians that think we should have sanctuary.

00:05:27.000 Let's go find them.

00:05:28.000 And I went to the Home Depot.

00:05:30.000 And I found three illegal aliens, and I speak Spanish, right?

00:05:33.000 A lot of people don't know that.

00:05:35.000 And I told them that we were going to be filming a documentary at a politician's home.

00:05:40.000 And in California, right, they don't care.

00:05:42.000 The illegal aliens, right, it's catch and release, so they're protected.

00:05:45.000 They're not scared.

00:05:46.000 And I had said, are you here illegally?

00:05:49.000 Excuse me.

00:05:49.000 And they had said, yes, in Spanish, of course, you know, they were from Mexico and Guatemala.

00:05:54.000 And so I paid them and they came with me and we ended up pitching a tent on Nancy Pelosi's lawn and hopping, hopping her fence.

00:06:02.000 And I had them hang photos of high profile cases of American citizens who had been murdered by illegal aliens on the tent with zip ties.

00:06:11.000 And then we were playing football and drinking Mexican Cokes.

00:06:13.000 And then we even tried to open Her door at her house and then eventually, right?

00:06:18.000 I thought everybody was welcome there.

00:06:19.000 She called the cops.

00:06:21.000 This is online to you could watch it on my YouTube channel and she called the cops on us and it was hilarious because it was the number one trending story on Twitter at the time, even though I was completely banned on Twitter and you could hear the cop on the phone with her and this whole thing is being live streamed, right? 0.93

00:06:36.000 And ultimately she just had to let us go because how much of a hypocrite would she be but ultimately we were deported.

00:06:42.000 from her house, and then I did it at Gavin Newsom's house, too, at the California governor's mansion. 0.94

00:06:48.000 And I got arrested!

00:06:49.000 He had me arrested.

00:06:50.000 This is why they ban you from everything, but thanks for hanging out.

00:06:53.000 We'll talk about this and a lot more.

00:06:54.000 We got Phil Labonte.

00:06:54.000 Yeah.

00:06:55.000 Hi, I'm Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:07:01.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

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00:07:16.000 All right, let's jump into the first story.

00:07:17.000 This is the news.

00:07:18.000 So Donald Trump is not going to be debating the rest of the Republican candidates.

00:07:23.000 And we got news that Trump will reportedly do a sit down interview with Tucker Carlson on the day of the GOP debate on Fox News.

00:07:29.000 Former President Trump will reportedly sit down with Tucker, the first debate of the Republican primary scheduled to take place on Wednesday in Milwaukee.

00:07:38.000 The New Times reports former President Donald J. Trump plans to upstage the first Republican primary debate on Wednesday by sitting for an online interview with former news host Tucker Carlson.

00:07:48.000 I'm imagining they're going to publish at Tucker's normal time, which will absolutely compete with the GOP debate.

00:07:54.000 And then who's going to want to watch the GOP debate?

00:07:57.000 Nobody.

00:08:00.000 I can't imagine that anyone watching the GOP debate over Donald Trump with Tucker Carlson.

00:08:04.000 Is it going to be Vivek and Ron?

00:08:06.000 And some other people.

00:08:08.000 Who else is running?

00:08:09.000 Tim Scott?

00:08:10.000 Mike Pence.

00:08:11.000 Mike Pence is going to be there?

00:08:12.000 Nikki Haley.

00:08:13.000 I'll watch it for Vivek.

00:08:15.000 I'm excited.

00:08:16.000 But I heard a lot of comments, people were saying online that Vivek is going to be like Tulsi Gabbard to Ron DeSantis as Kamala.

00:08:23.000 Like Vivek is going to...

00:08:26.000 Vivek is too good at this.

00:08:28.000 It doesn't matter because it's not going to be as much fun because no matter how bad DeSantis is, he's not as terrible as Kamala Harris.

00:08:36.000 That was an absolutely beautiful takedown of Kamala Harris. 0.96

00:08:42.000 And again, it is not fair to compare Ron DeSantis to Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris is at the bottom of the barrel like Gollum from Lord of the Rings.

00:08:51.000 1%.

00:08:52.000 Ron's actually done a good job in Florida to varying degrees of argument.

00:08:55.000 I would disagree.

00:08:56.000 As I say, at least there's an argument.

00:08:58.000 Kamala Harris I don't think has support from literally anybody, not even Democrats like you.

00:09:00.000 Do you think there's a better governor than him?

00:09:03.000 Yeah, look, I think that Florida has always had pretty good governors, right?

00:09:06.000 It's pretty much a red state.

00:09:09.000 It's not necessarily red in terms of our political makeup, but in terms of the governors that we've had over the last few years, yeah, we have had Republican governors.

00:09:18.000 But really, Florida is the largest swing state in the nation, and I wouldn't necessarily say that it is a pure red state.

00:09:24.000 What happened is that during COVID, you had a large influx of people from New York and New Jersey.

00:09:31.000 California moving into Florida because they wanted, right, to escape the lockdowns because they thought that Florida was going to be more free and open than places like New York and New Jersey.

00:09:42.000 And while it's true that our restrictions and our lockdowns were not as draconian, at one point in time they were and they did lock down parts of Florida and there were lockdown orders and masking orders and Ron DeSantis did advocate for the vaccine.

00:09:55.000 And so then what happened is a lot of those people that moved, well, those are going to be conservatives for the most part, right, who moved to a state to escape leftist policies.

00:10:04.000 Well, they registered to vote and then the Republican registration rate surpassed the Democrat registration rate.

00:10:12.000 But the actual makeup of Florida is not majority Republican.

00:10:15.000 And so this is like one of those misconceptions that we were talking about this morning, because I really feel like they've been trying to position Ron DeSantis as a Manchurian candidate, and they're trying to push this narrative that he's the only successful governor in the country because they needed somebody that could challenge Donald Trump.

00:10:30.000 Laura's correct.

00:10:32.000 We talked about this when DeSantis won.

00:10:34.000 The narrative they're putting out is that he's such a good governor, he converted all of these people to the Republican Party.

00:10:40.000 But look at Miami-Dade.

00:10:42.000 It is true, I do believe, that many people probably said, you know what, I'm gonna vote for, you know, I used to be a Democrat and now I'll vote for Ron.

00:10:48.000 But we know we had mass migration into Florida.

00:10:51.000 It was the number one destination.

00:10:53.000 That may be, to Ron DeSantis' credit, for whatever reason, but it's conservatives who moved in and were already going to vote conservative that gave him the massive 20% margin.

00:11:02.000 I want to give him credit because he attracted conservatives to Florida, but I also want to make sure we give decent credit to the Democrats for being so awful they drove people out of their states into Florida.

00:11:13.000 Like the way Ron handled COVID, the lockdowns, eventually he got to the point where he was like, we're done.

00:11:19.000 We're not doing this anymore.

00:11:20.000 And he spoke up for a lot of people in the United States that were on a downward spiral towards lockdown or shutdown.

00:11:26.000 But the thing is, is that he spoke up about it, right?

00:11:28.000 He went on Fox News and we talked about this this morning.

00:11:30.000 He would go on Fox News and talk about the free state of Florida.

00:11:33.000 And one thing that I would say that Ron DeSantis's greatest accomplishment is that he has a wonderful PR team, right?

00:11:39.000 He has a great PR team that is Not the people that work for him.

00:11:42.000 I'm saying the PR team that's been able to manufacture this image, this facade, right?

00:11:46.000 That he is somehow Trump without the baggage.

00:11:49.000 I'm not saying that the people, right, who work for him are good.

00:11:51.000 No, no, no.

00:11:52.000 Hold on.

00:11:53.000 You're correct.

00:11:54.000 Early on, that's what they were doing.

00:11:55.000 And then they went...

00:11:57.000 I'm being facetious, of course.

00:11:58.000 I'm saying that I personally, right, as a Floridian and as somebody who's run for Congress in Florida twice as an America First Republican, I see on the ground Ron DeSantis is not a good governor.

00:12:09.000 And they've been able to use other people's experiences and the outlier experience of the COVID lockdowns, which Nobody really expected that to happen, and that's really what they use as their talking points to say, oh, he's such a great governor.

00:12:25.000 Well, is he?

00:12:26.000 Right now, we have the highest homeowner insurance rates in the entire country.

00:12:30.000 The average rate is about $1,700 nationally, and in Florida, it's $6,000 or more, okay?

00:12:37.000 Okay.

00:12:37.000 And after this year, it's expected to jump another 40 to 60%.

00:12:42.000 We have some of the highest utility bills in the entire country as well, which have

00:12:45.000 increased over 20% in the last year.

00:12:47.000 And that's all because Ron DeSantis accepted millions of dollars of campaign donations

00:12:52.000 from the utility companies like FPL, that's Florida Power and Light, as well as the insurance

00:12:57.000 companies.

00:12:58.000 And he actually allowed for the insurance industry to participate in writing the insurance

00:13:03.000 bill that made it so that homeowners in Florida can't really sue anymore, right?

00:13:10.000 They can't really sue for fraud.

00:13:11.000 And so what you have now is this massive homeowner insurance crisis.

00:13:15.000 And it's unaffordable.

00:13:16.000 People can't even afford their homeowner insurance rates, which is costing more than their mortgages.

00:13:22.000 And you're going to see a market crash in Florida, similar to what we saw in 2008.

00:13:26.000 And I believe, and I predict, and a lot of people are predicting this as well, that it's going to trigger a national housing market crash.

00:13:34.000 And what's going to happen to all those people who move to Florida thinking, oh, I'm going to escape communism?

00:13:39.000 They're not even able to afford the homes that they're now living in.

00:13:42.000 Is it because there's so much natural disaster danger for like hurricanes and floods and stuff that the insurance is just out of control?

00:13:50.000 Yes, but at the same time, right, Rick Scott had this under control.

00:13:54.000 The insurance crisis has severely worsened under Ron DeSantis' term as governor.

00:14:00.000 And insurance rates have quadrupled under Ron DeSantis's leadership since he's been governor since 2019.

00:14:08.000 They made it so the homeowners couldn't sue the insurance companies?

00:14:11.000 Yeah, so you can pull up the bill.

00:14:13.000 It might be helpful, Tim, if you pull this up.

00:14:15.000 And I actually wrote a Substack article about this and it was posted by President Trump.

00:14:20.000 I don't know the exact number, but just type in Special Session Florida Insurance Bill.

00:14:27.000 And there were these different measures because they had said, oh, they had argued that the reason why the rates were so expensive is because there were frivolous lawsuits.

00:14:35.000 And so what happened is the lobbyists, right?

00:14:38.000 We have a state insurer of last resort in the state of Florida called Citizens Insurance.

00:14:43.000 The CEO of that company was also the lobbyist who was participating in writing this legislation and pushing it forward.

00:14:52.000 And what they wanted is they wanted it so that homeowners in Florida were not able to sue if You know, they discovered that their insurance carrier was engaging in fraudulent activity.

00:15:08.000 And you could really make the argument that given the fact that these companies are insolvent, and Governor DeSantis himself has recently admitted that Citizens Insurance, which is the insurer of Last Resort, right?

00:15:19.000 That's where people try to go and get insurance if their insurance carrier drops them.

00:15:23.000 And we're now seeing a lot of these insurance carriers leave the state of Florida.

00:15:26.000 Well, they're insolvent.

00:15:27.000 How are they able to pay out claims?

00:15:29.000 What's the point of people paying their insurance premiums if these companies are not even going to be able to fulfill their claims?

00:15:35.000 So you could make the argument that that's a fraudulent business practice.

00:15:38.000 And we see this now in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian from the hurricane last year.

00:15:43.000 If you go to Southwest Florida and you fly above, you'll see just a sea of blue tarps because so many people have been abandoned.

00:15:50.000 They talked about it on TV because it was great press for Ron DeSantis getting reelected as governor.

00:15:55.000 But those people have not had their insurance claims fulfilled or paid out.

00:16:00.000 So there's going to be a homelessness crisis.

00:16:03.000 It sounds like they're trying to stop a downward spiral or an expiration of the insurance company.

00:16:07.000 If they can't make the payments out, then the people want to sue them because they couldn't make the payments that would make them have to pay lawsuits that they can't afford.

00:16:14.000 Is there a way to appeal to the federal government to bail these Floridians out that don't have homes?

00:16:19.000 I mean, they're Americans first, and then they're Floridians.

00:16:23.000 What about the people in Hawaii?

00:16:26.000 I mean, it's a similar situation if the natural disaster wipes out a swath of homes.

00:16:30.000 Look how long the government waited.

00:16:31.000 Look how long Biden waited.

00:16:33.000 Thank God they're in there now.

00:16:34.000 What I was saying, if you look at that article, you see what I was talking about?

00:16:37.000 The state insurer of last resort property insurance, right?

00:16:41.000 So exactly as I just said, right?

00:16:43.000 You could read it.

00:16:44.000 I know it's a lot.

00:16:44.000 It's very complex.

00:16:46.000 I wrote a substack about this, and it was shared by President Trump a couple months ago.

00:16:50.000 But this is a serious issue.

00:16:52.000 We just had farmers insurance leave the state of Florida, abandoning Floridians in the middle of hurricane season.

00:16:57.000 I mean, what are these people going to do?

00:17:00.000 AAA also decided that they were not going to renew homeowner policies in the state of Florida.

00:17:05.000 I gotta tell you, people have kept telling us to move to Texas or Florida, and the reason we went to West Virginia instead... Well, I tell people, like, weather is a huge issue.

00:17:15.000 I lived in Miami for a little bit, and that matters.

00:17:19.000 It does.

00:17:20.000 I like Florida.

00:17:22.000 I do.

00:17:23.000 There's a lot of really, really great things about it.

00:17:24.000 A lot of people are moving down there.

00:17:25.000 But yo.

00:17:27.000 But that is a big issue that's a huge problem and what you're seeing on the ground in florida it's a major retirement hub right so where i ran for congress the villages the largest retirement.

00:17:37.000 You know community in the entire country the oldest district in the nation per capita.

00:17:42.000 These are people on fixed incomes, okay?

00:17:44.000 These are senior citizens on social security. 0.99

00:17:47.000 And do you think that a senior citizen can afford, you know, a $5,000, $6,000, and in some instances we've even seen $25,000 increases in people's homeowner insurance rates.

00:17:56.000 I know that sounds obscene, but the most egregious case I've seen thus far is an increase, I know it's going to sound crazy, of $98,000 per year.

00:18:05.000 An additional $98,000 per year on insurance.

00:18:09.000 That is what's happening as a result of this insurance crisis in the state of Florida.

00:18:13.000 So while all these rich people from the East Coast are moving to Florida, all these seniors are basically having to move out of Florida because they can't afford it anymore.

00:18:22.000 Let's jump to this next story, which is in line.

00:18:24.000 This is from Florida Politics.

00:18:26.000 New National GOP 2024 poll shows Ron DeSantis in third place.

00:18:31.000 Behind, obviously, Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:18:34.000 In the prediction market right now.

00:18:36.000 Let me see if I can... I don't know, I got real.

00:18:38.000 There we go.

00:18:39.000 This is crazy, when I saw this.

00:18:41.000 You know, we were talking about it before, that even when they're tied, Vivek is below Ron DeSantis.

00:18:46.000 And it could be because D becomes 4R in the, you know, alphabetical order, whatever.

00:18:50.000 But as of right now, this one blew my mind.

00:18:52.000 Vivek Ramaswamy and the prediction market for PredictIt is in second place, three points above Ron DeSantis.

00:19:00.000 Now, I'll make a few things clear in this.

00:19:02.000 Prediction markets are not polls.

00:19:04.000 It's the sentiment of people.

00:19:06.000 Who do they think is going to win?

00:19:07.000 They're basically betting money in real time, like stocks, on who they think is going to improve.

00:19:13.000 Ron DeSantis going down means people think they will lose money by holding shares in his prediction contract.

00:19:21.000 And people are buying Vivek at 17 cents because they believe it will actually increase.

00:19:28.000 These are not polls.

00:19:30.000 Bill Mitchell was discussing this with us earlier in the Culture War podcast, and he

00:19:35.000 said, you know, and we had Kyle Becker as well, Becker said that real clear politics

00:19:38.000 is better.

00:19:39.000 I do prefer aggregate polling instead of singular polls, like they mentioned this one article

00:19:44.000 that he's in second place.

00:19:45.000 Yeah, well, the vague I think has like three polls showing him in second and DeSantis has

00:19:48.000 like eight, but these polls go back a week or two or two or three weeks or even a month.

00:19:55.000 So when they do these aggregate polling, just consider the difference between prediction markets, which is real-time, short-term changes, and prediction markets, which is long-term sentiment.

00:20:05.000 There's reasons to weigh both differently.

00:20:08.000 But for the time being, I will tell you, one of the things I think that's helping Vivek right now The reason why he may have jumped up is that at 3.05am this morning, Elon Musk tweeted, he states his beliefs clearly.

00:20:22.000 re-re-exing, I guess, quoting Vivek Ramaswamy's truth, God is real.

00:20:26.000 There are two genders.

00:20:27.000 Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.

00:20:30.000 Reverse racism is racism.

00:20:32.000 An open border is no border.

00:20:33.000 Parents determine the education of their children.

00:20:35.000 The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.

00:20:39.000 Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.

00:20:41.000 There are three branches of the US government, not four.

00:20:44.000 The US Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

00:20:47.000 Elon Musk is now promoting Vivek.

00:20:51.000 I mean, they love this guy.

00:20:52.000 I'm wondering, do we see this continue?

00:20:55.000 Does Vivek overtake Ron DeSantis?

00:20:58.000 What do you think is going to happen in next week's debate?

00:21:00.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:21:03.000 Easy enough, alright.

00:21:04.000 I agree.

00:21:04.000 Alright, moving on.

00:21:05.000 I mean, I have a lot more to say, but I just talked a lot, so I'll let other people talk.

00:21:09.000 I just don't feel like there's a lot of groundswell appreciation of Ron DeSantis.

00:21:17.000 People can You know, say what they want about his record.

00:21:20.000 There are people that are going to cast it in Florida.

00:21:22.000 I mean, as a governor, there are people that are going to cast it as positive.

00:21:25.000 There are people who are going to cast it as negative and stuff.

00:21:27.000 But at the end of the day, people tend to vote with, you know, with their gut more than with their You know, with their belief in policy or whatever, and I think that it is more likely that Vivek is going to communicate with people better than Ron does, and that might be because of the fact that, you know, apparently Ron has, and this is what I've heard, but Ron has a problem relating to people.

00:21:53.000 He's not the, you know, he's not the guy you're going to want to have a beer with, like the old George W. Bush line was.

00:21:59.000 We've had Vivek on the show IRL twice.

00:22:03.000 I was here once.

00:22:04.000 It was when we were actually using Charlie Kirk's studio down in Arizona.

00:22:09.000 That was awesome.

00:22:10.000 And then he came on here when Seamus was guest hosting, but I also got to talk to him on The Culture War.

00:22:14.000 And he's an easy guy to communicate with.

00:22:17.000 He will answer the question you ask him, even if it's very, very difficult.

00:22:20.000 He is quick-witted and smart.

00:22:22.000 He handles it very, very well.

00:22:23.000 And he's really good with liberals because he could handle me.

00:22:27.000 I changed the subject.

00:22:28.000 I'm asking about Mars colonization.

00:22:29.000 He was all about it.

00:22:30.000 He's got an answer.

00:22:32.000 So let's go back to the Aleppo moment.

00:22:34.000 Oh my god, I wanted to kill myself when that happened.

00:22:38.000 Because that was like my peak libertarian guy.

00:22:42.000 I'm like, now's our time, man.

00:22:44.000 The libertarians.

00:22:45.000 Gary's got it.

00:22:46.000 Here we go, and I'm watching Morning Joe, and I'm just like, my heart sank, and I'm like, I can't believe this is happening.

00:22:53.000 For those who are not familiar, this is Gary Johnson, right?

00:22:56.000 Yes.

00:22:57.000 He's doing an interview, and he's asked how would he deal with Aleppo, and he goes, and what is Aleppo?

00:23:03.000 Yeah.

00:23:03.000 Aleppo was a city in Syria that was just flattened.

00:23:06.000 During the civil war, like at the height of the time.

00:23:08.000 And it ruined his campaign.

00:23:10.000 Absolutely.

00:23:11.000 They were talking about rocket, they were talking about like the end days and that was like being spoken about on the news and he had no clue!

00:23:17.000 So let's go through this.

00:23:18.000 I told people, like my viewers, if Donald Trump was asked a question about, insert random topic, if he's sitting down and someone, and the interviewer said, I want to get your thoughts on Roberto the rooster.

00:23:29.000 Trump, having no idea what the hell he's talking about, would go, look, I know a lot of people want to talk about Roberta, but we've got to focus on jobs in this country.

00:23:35.000 We've got a border that's supposed to... He would adapt and pivot.

00:23:39.000 Vivek?

00:23:40.000 Smart enough to do the same thing.

00:23:42.000 Ron would do some facsimile if I don't see him being quick-witted enough to deal with these difficult situations.

00:23:47.000 Another thing that's going to happen that you're going to see is that Vivek Ramaswamy has written books about woke culture and he's going to, well, Ron DeSantis is going to find out very quickly that just talking about woke and talking about Disney and talking about COVID and pretending to be against childhood transitions isn't going to be enough to get him through this debate.

00:24:09.000 Ron DeSantis has An issue, as you just said, communicating with people and relating to people, and he doesn't really have that likability factor.

00:24:17.000 You see that he's very awkward in person, and this is because he's on the spectrum.

00:24:22.000 Politico, you can pull up the article if you want, actually wrote an article about how Ron DeSantis might be autistic, and there are lawmakers in the Florida legislature who have talked about how he has Asperger's.

00:24:35.000 I know people who have worked with Ron DeSantis in the past, former staffers, who have said that he has Asperger's.

00:24:40.000 I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with people who have Asperger's, but obviously one of the issues that comes with, you know, being on the spectrum or having some form of autism is that sometimes you lack social skills, right?

00:24:51.000 That's one of the main characteristics about it.

00:24:53.000 And so, Ron DeSantis, right, you'll see him in these situations where people will come up to him and say, there was one that I'll never forget where he was, I believe, in Iowa, and somebody goes, oh, I just drove eight hours to come see you!

00:25:06.000 And Ron DeSantis goes, oh, great, and he walks away.

00:25:08.000 Like he didn't even ask the guy like if you want a photo or how you doing.

00:25:12.000 And so Vivek Ramaswamy has written books about woke and Ron's not going to be able to get

00:25:17.000 away with just saying, oh, you know, like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna combat wokeism.

00:25:21.000 Well, how is Ron going to combat wokeism when one of his top lobbyists is a guy named Slater

00:25:25.000 Bayless who's a lobbyist for Bud Light?

00:25:27.000 How is he going to combat childhood transitioning when another one of his top lobbyists is a 0.97

00:25:31.000 guy named Mark Lampkin, who represents a company called AbbVie, okay, a pharmaceutical company

00:25:35.000 called AbbVie that is the manufacturer of a drug called Lupron, which is a drug used

00:25:40.000 to chemically castrate children. 0.98

00:25:43.000 He needs to be called out for this hypocrisy. 1.00

00:25:43.000 You understand? 1.00

00:25:45.000 What you're talking about with Vivek and DeSantis about Woke is a great point because Vivek really understands the philosophy that's going on at the left now.

00:25:56.000 I don't know exactly how Deep Ron's understanding is, I don't feel like Ron really, you know, understands the philosophies behind it, whereas I do feel like Vivek understands.

00:26:10.000 Exactly, you know, he understands, he knows who Mark Hughes is, you know?

00:26:13.000 He knows the leftists that are writing the philosophies and writing the academic papers that are having significant effects on the culture today.

00:26:22.000 So he's aware of the actual problems in the philosophy.

00:26:25.000 A lot of people are gonna say, oh, you know, we're talking about Vivek and Ron.

00:26:28.000 It's like, well, yes, these are the guys fighting behind Trump for the next position, so I think it's warranted.

00:26:34.000 I don't care to say if Ron's on the spectrum or whatever.

00:26:37.000 That scene is, I don't know, whatever.

00:26:40.000 It's tough to measure.

00:26:41.000 We can just say it simply.

00:26:41.000 No, but who cares, right?

00:26:42.000 Ron is bad with people.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, I'm not trying to be derogatory.

00:26:45.000 I'm just saying that it would explain why he has such a hard time

00:26:48.000 Communicating with people and you'll see the never back down pack and you'll see his campaign say oh well

00:26:53.000 We raised a hundred and fifty million dollars, which you know it's not really true, right?

00:26:57.000 That's another lie But all the money in the world as I said this money isn't

00:27:01.000 going to be enough to buy Ron DeSantis the personality Transplant that he so desperately needs I saw the video of

00:27:07.000 his eggs to people and he wasn't looking at him And they didn't even know who the hell he was in Iowa, and then you have Bill Mitchell on this morning being like, oh, yeah, Bob Vander Plaats is a kingmaker in Iowa and Ron DeSantis is gonna win.

00:27:18.000 I mean, the guy's literally putting toothpicks in eggs as Donald Trump flies his plane over and cucks him in real time.

00:27:24.000 Donald Trump, there is no question, is so good.

00:27:29.000 You know you want a fist bump too! 0.96

00:27:32.000 Go Trump!

00:27:35.000 So Trump walks into a room and he commands this entertaining presence.

00:27:42.000 I went to the White House for the social media summit and I didn't know what to expect and Trump was basically doing stand-up for an hour and we were all laughing.

00:27:50.000 He was just nailing it.

00:27:52.000 Ron is the opposite of that.

00:27:54.000 Vivek?

00:27:55.000 Nowhere near as good as Trump's commanding presence, but at the very least he can hold his own in a conversation with quick wit.

00:28:01.000 I guess the question is though, where does Vivek go?

00:28:04.000 He's not going to beat Trump.

00:28:05.000 He's not going to be president.

00:28:07.000 What is he doing?

00:28:08.000 Where does he end up?

00:28:09.000 A cabinet position, perhaps?

00:28:10.000 I thought so.

00:28:11.000 I think he wants a cabinet position.

00:28:13.000 I think it's obvious that Vivek is not going to be president, but I do appreciate the fact that he actually is running the campaign that Ron DeSantis, if he wanted to run for president, should have been running, right?

00:28:23.000 Vivek Ramaswamy was the only other candidate for president that showed up to the rally I organized in front of the Miami courthouse when President Trump was arraigned.

00:28:31.000 He had a press conference and that was a really big act of courage because think about it.

00:28:35.000 Those are all Trump supporters there.

00:28:37.000 He didn't know if he was going to get booed or he was going to get chased away, but actually the Trump supporters there embraced him and went up to him and thanked him because he passed out a press statement saying that if he were to get elected as president, the first thing he would do is pardon President Trump.

00:28:53.000 And he has not really attacked President Trump much.

00:28:56.000 I haven't really seen any direct attacks and in fact he's always the first one to come out with a statement whenever Trump has an indictment.

00:28:56.000 Defended him.

00:29:03.000 Unlike Ron DeSantis who pretends like he doesn't know what's going on and waits 24 hours to issue a statement and then won't even say Trump's name.

00:29:10.000 I think you nailed it when you said Viveka's running the campaign DeSantis should have run.

00:29:13.000 Because Viveka's setting himself up for what's after this election.

00:29:18.000 I think he's another level.

00:29:20.000 Vivek is like a brilliant, genius mastermind, business strategist.

00:29:24.000 I think Trump sees a lot of himself in Vivek, which is why he respects him so much, from when he was a young entrepreneur.

00:29:31.000 But Vivek is like top level, 0.0001% genius human.

00:29:38.000 He's not as famous as Trump, so that's why I personally feel like Trump's name recognition is going to get him 50 million votes. 0.97

00:29:45.000 Well, also, you know, Ron DeSantis is like a prostitute, you know? 1.00

00:29:49.000 He's like a cheap hooker. 1.00

00:29:51.000 He's on his knees begging all these billionaire Wall Street hedge fund guys like Ken Griffin and other billionaires like Doug Leone of Sequoia to donate to his campaign because he's not a billionaire. 0.99

00:30:04.000 He's not wealthy.

00:30:05.000 And I'm not trying to sound like an elitist, but Donald Trump is a billionaire, okay?

00:30:08.000 He self-financed a lot of his first campaign, and people knew Donald Trump long before he was ever president.

00:30:17.000 And Vivek, similarly, he has a net worth, from my understanding, that's close to almost $1 billion.

00:30:23.000 And so he doesn't need to Get on his knees like a cheap hooker and beg these Wall Street donors and these GOP establishment donors who hate Donald Trump for money, because he can self-finance. 0.76

00:30:35.000 And you have to look at the fact that Ron DeSantis has a $250 million campaign operation, and he has blown through most of his cash.

00:30:43.000 He doesn't have enough money anymore to run a campaign all the way until the Iowa caucus on January 15th, which is why the Never Back Down Super PAC is having to foot the bill for so many things that he's doing.

00:30:53.000 So that's another advantage that I think you're going to see Vivek is going to come from behind and he's going to continue to rise in the polls because eventually it's going to become a matter of resources.

00:31:03.000 Vivek has money and Ron DeSantis doesn't.

00:31:03.000 Yeah.

00:31:05.000 He also seems to be very intelligent about how he spends his money, Vivek, because he does shows like with Jordan Peterson yesterday, 300,000 views at this point.

00:31:12.000 With one of the smartest guys in the world, Jordan Peterson.

00:31:14.000 That cost Vivek nothing.

00:31:15.000 He just sat in his living room and paid zero to get 300,000 eyeballs.

00:31:20.000 He's on Twitter, 50,000 hits on each video that's going up.

00:31:23.000 Elon Musk is retweeting it for another 200,000.

00:31:24.000 He's probably gained a million voters yesterday just from all this media blitz in the last 48 hours.

00:31:31.000 It's all social media.

00:31:31.000 And that costs nothing.

00:31:32.000 Where's Ron's social media presence?

00:31:34.000 I always think about when Carrie Lake was running, she was saying she was applying for a job. 0.99

00:31:38.000 right when she was running for office and the voters or the hiring managers, right? So I always

00:31:43.000 think about that. It's like if you're two candidates for the job or DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:31:48.000 it's almost, you know, hands down Vivek is the better candidate for the job for whatever you

00:31:54.000 need him to do. I just think like day one, I'm not going to worry about Vivek when he's given

00:32:00.000 the keys. I, you know, well, I don't think that we should just say we're not going to worry about

00:32:03.000 him because look, I met Vivek.

00:32:05.000 I think he's a nice guy.

00:32:06.000 And I like the fact that he's coming out in support of President Trump.

00:32:10.000 But, you know, I'm critical of everybody.

00:32:12.000 And I think that we also need to be we also need to kind of look into Vivek's ties, right, with the pharmaceutical industry and his his connections with big pharma.

00:32:22.000 And two things can be true at once.

00:32:24.000 You can be an excellent communicator and you can be a nice guy and we can appreciate all the things that he's doing to support President Trump and speak out against a weaponized government.

00:32:31.000 But also I think that we need to, you know, at least be aware of and do our own research like I do, right?

00:32:39.000 To understand who these people are tied to, you know, how they made their money, what that's going to mean, if they ever do get elected, what kind of position would he be offered if he wanted a cabinet position in the Trump administration.

00:32:51.000 And those are questions that should be asked.

00:32:53.000 What I like about Vivek too is that he's very open, it seems, when people are confrontational with him.

00:33:00.000 I saw that confrontation with the LGBTQ activist, and whenever he's asked a question, he doesn't say, oh, go away, or security, come take this person away.

00:33:09.000 He's pretty head-on, right?

00:33:11.000 He jumps into the Viper's den.

00:33:14.000 I want to show some archives here.

00:33:16.000 This is Vivek Ramaswamy, February 11th, 2021.

00:33:19.000 4,757 followers.

00:33:24.000 I just grabbed a random date from a couple years ago.

00:33:27.000 Fast forward to December 8th, 2022.

00:33:28.000 156,000 followers.

00:33:28.000 Jump a few months ahead to March 2023.

00:33:29.000 364,000 followers.

00:33:30.000 And in less than a year, he has jumped to 1 million followers.

00:33:32.000 to March 2023, 364,000 followers.

00:33:36.000 And in less than a year, he has jumped to 1 million followers.

00:33:40.000 This dude is, like you said, he's running the campaign Ron should have been running.

00:33:45.000 I don't think Ron's capable of anything remotely close to this guy.

00:33:48.000 This guy's like a gem.

00:33:50.000 People like this don't appear all the time.

00:33:52.000 And most importantly, Vivek, I think, is actually campaigning for after the election.

00:33:57.000 Yeah.

00:33:58.000 He can't say it!

00:33:59.000 You know, so when he was here, I was like, I think you're not gonna- I know you're not gonna win.

00:34:04.000 And I think you know you're not gonna win, but you're doing this anyway because there's a lot more that comes with it.

00:34:08.000 It changes the conversation.

00:34:09.000 You get on the debate stage.

00:34:11.000 You can bring some issues to the forefront.

00:34:12.000 And he's like, look, look, I'm running to win.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:15.000 But he's a smart guy.

00:34:15.000 He knows what comes next is after this election.

00:34:19.000 So if Trump, and this is an if, and I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole, if he gets taken off a ballot somehow, a ballot in any state, that was kind of the topic from today's show a little bit, and that would basically, if he can't get 270, he can't win, do you think the debate stands a chance against the Democratic Party?

00:34:34.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:34:35.000 If they take Trump off the ballot, 2024 is going to be wild.

00:34:40.000 Let's talk about what happens in 2024.

00:34:43.000 If Trump is removed from any state, they'll try to make that state award its electors to the Democrat.

00:34:50.000 Maybe they'll try and make, I doubt this, but award it to someone, I don't know, libertarian or something.

00:34:54.000 It's like, well, we're not going to give it to the Democrat because we're being fair.

00:34:57.000 But you need to get 270.

00:35:00.000 If you don't, it goes to the House of Representatives.

00:35:03.000 They cannot let that happen.

00:35:05.000 I have no idea what's going to happen.

00:35:06.000 The speculation is they'll take Trump's name off the ballot in Michigan or Pennsylvania or Georgia.

00:35:11.000 I think Georgia is the key target.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, they're trying to use the 14th Amendment to get him on charges of sedition, of course, so that they can use the 14th Amendment to try to remove him from certain states.

00:35:22.000 That's why they want this to be a very, very fast trial because they want to knock Trump out before the primaries conclude.

00:35:29.000 That's why I was saying when Trump came out and said everybody should drop out of the race, he's got a point.

00:35:34.000 If they all dropped out right now, the Democrats' hands are tied.

00:35:38.000 If they remove his name from the ballot pre-primary, they say, look, we didn't get rid of the Republicans.

00:35:43.000 You have a choice.

00:35:44.000 You just can't vote for the criminal.

00:35:46.000 If everyone drops out and right now Trump is confirmed the nominee, the removal of Donald Trump would be them saying the Republican Party has been excised from the vote.

00:35:54.000 And then that's a shock to the system.

00:35:56.000 I'm not saying I know what happens after that, but frogs boiling in a pot is a bad scenario.

00:36:01.000 People being shocked to the point of waking up is preferable.

00:36:04.000 The only way they can pull this off is if the primaries are not concluded and there was someone else that if Trump were to be removed, people would vote for.

00:36:13.000 What do you think about like a Vivek RFK ticket?

00:36:19.000 He don't like RFK.

00:36:19.000 No.

00:36:22.000 I'm like, look man, RFK is better than a lot of the options.

00:36:26.000 Yes.

00:36:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:27.000 And it's kind of like, I mean, I think a Trump Ramaswamy ticket would be the best.

00:36:34.000 And I've talked to you about this.

00:36:35.000 I don't, I'm not into Trump. 0.99

00:36:36.000 I mean, I don't dislike, I don't, I got issues with them, you know, calling Rosie a fat pig. 0.91

00:36:40.000 I feel like he alienated half the world and like, I need a uniter.

00:36:43.000 I need someone that's going to like help us move forward.

00:36:46.000 I think unity is cliche.

00:36:47.000 You know, I think that there's really no such thing as unity and I think it's like a very kumbaya concept and I don't think that we really need to be focused on unity in this country.

00:36:57.000 We are in a political revolution right now and one, the party that's in control is literally trying to put conservatives and Trump supporters in jail so that they can die in prison simply because of the person they support or the fact that they believe that the election was stolen.

00:37:13.000 There's no room to play nice.

00:37:15.000 There's no more talk about civility, no more talk about unity.

00:37:18.000 We're in a war to save our country, and this is the problem, right?

00:37:21.000 This is why we're in the mess today, is because so many people, and this is no disrespect to you, but so many people in this country are focused on civility and decorum and, you know, let's go along to get along.

00:37:32.000 I'm sick of it.

00:37:34.000 So many people on the right are like that.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:37:37.000 The leftists are burning down cities.

00:37:39.000 The right is like that, and that's why the Republicans lose.

00:37:41.000 The country is called the United States.

00:37:43.000 It's united.

00:37:44.000 We have unity, and that's the reason we function as 50 states.

00:37:47.000 Without it, it'd be a civil war, so we need to unify.

00:37:49.000 I know, but we're in the civil war right now.

00:37:51.000 We don't have unity.

00:37:52.000 I think it's an illusion.

00:37:53.000 And let me address that from the left.

00:37:54.000 I don't think anyone can win on that platform.

00:37:56.000 Let me address that from the left.

00:37:58.000 One of the issues with the Declaration of Independence was that South Carolina and Georgia would not sign on unless they removed Thomas Jefferson's criticisms of slavery.

00:38:10.000 So unity doesn't always mean the best things.

00:38:13.000 I can understand the argument among the Founding Fathers.

00:38:15.000 They were like, okay, well, we have no choice.

00:38:17.000 I do believe that Quebec was a colony of the Crown and they did not want to join up.

00:38:23.000 So they were like, we desperately need other colonies to agree with us.

00:38:26.000 Thus, let's just ignore the slavery thing for now. 0.72

00:38:30.000 And I'm kind of like, wow, that sucked. 0.98

00:38:31.000 That sucked. 0.95

00:38:32.000 But I get the argument.

00:38:33.000 You know, I'm not going to sit here and criticize the Founding Fathers for winning the Revolutionary War.

00:38:36.000 Just consider, sometimes this idea of unity means unifying with people who are very, very bad at doing very bad things.

00:38:42.000 Hitler tried to unify Europe. 0.92

00:38:44.000 I mean, it was not the best form of unification.

00:38:46.000 So right now, the challenge I see in this country is... No, he didn't try to... Extermination is not unification.

00:38:53.000 Seizing Paris was a step forward towards unification.

00:38:56.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:38:57.000 You could make the argument that Hitler was doing horrifying, awful things.

00:39:01.000 He was conquering it to unify it.

00:39:04.000 The simple academic term is unification of Europe, is what people refer to.

00:39:08.000 And no one's ever saying, that's not an argument to make.

00:39:11.000 It's in agreement with Tim.

00:39:12.000 Unification is not always good.

00:39:13.000 I was not aware that they called it unification.

00:39:16.000 I was not aware that the extermination of Jews and gypsies and stuff was called unification.

00:39:20.000 Fair enough.

00:39:21.000 Yeah.

00:39:21.000 What Hitler was doing, invading other countries and stealing territory trying to invade Russia,

00:39:25.000 was conquer and dominate under one umbrella to control everything. 0.99

00:39:30.000 And yes, he was a psychotic eugenicist, anti-Semite, racist, and all of those awful things. 0.98

00:39:35.000 But in a simple sense, I think they call it European unification or whatever. 0.97

00:39:41.000 I think it's fair to say that like, conquering...

00:39:44.000 But outside of that, my point is this.

00:39:46.000 Right now in the United States, we have states that allow for the kidnapping of children to be castrated, and they are legally protected.

00:39:55.000 You have states like California that are sanctuary states that are completely violent in the Constitution.

00:40:02.000 So I'm sorry to say, as much as I can understand there is power in unity, Right now, what you have is not unity.

00:40:09.000 You have someone pinning you to the ground and beating you in the face.

00:40:12.000 But I'm a bit of a utilitarian.

00:40:13.000 If California were excised, the Communist Chinese Party would land destroyers. 1.00

00:40:18.000 No, no, we don't want to remove California.

00:40:20.000 We want to conquer it.

00:40:23.000 Then they'd appeal to the Chinese for help, for destroyer, for battleships, submarines, nuclear submarines. 0.96

00:40:29.000 If we split up, we lose.

00:40:31.000 And I don't think we should split up.

00:40:32.000 I think the federal government needs to be purged of the corruption.

00:40:36.000 Oh, I agree.

00:40:37.000 And Vivek talks fervently about it.

00:40:39.000 But does Donald?

00:40:40.000 He mentions that he's gonna, but he never lays out a plan.

00:40:42.000 I've never seen a plan.

00:40:43.000 I will combine two statements from today.

00:40:45.000 Bill Mitchell saying that Trump is the big guy and DeSantis is the guy who executes the vision.

00:40:51.000 Well, I think DeSantis has, that ship has sailed.

00:40:54.000 But Vivek is running the campaign DeSantis should have run.

00:40:57.000 So let Trump be the big guy who oversees the thing and then let Vivek be the surgeon who goes in and executes.

00:41:04.000 And Ron DeSantis doesn't execute visions.

00:41:07.000 The only thing that Ron DeSantis has executed is his campaign for president.

00:41:13.000 That should be a t-shirt.

00:41:16.000 I'm sorry, Matt.

00:41:17.000 He's just not adaptable.

00:41:17.000 He's too slow.

00:41:18.000 He's not.

00:41:19.000 No, he's not.

00:41:20.000 And also, it's a facade.

00:41:21.000 He's a Manchurian candidate, and I'm just so sick and tired as a Floridian, as somebody who's actually, you know, impacted by these negative policies as a result of him allowing for Florida to literally be invaded. 0.99

00:41:34.000 I mean, he has allowed our state to be invaded at the expense of people who are already living there, and he doesn't care.

00:41:39.000 He doesn't care.

00:41:40.000 I'm gonna own this one.

00:41:43.000 I feel personally slighted to the point where I'm sick of the DeSantis campaign.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, I'm sick of these people.

00:41:48.000 When I brought this up to Bill Mitchell, and he was a very nice guy after we wrapped the show, we were all hanging out having sushi, we played poker, he got a full house, it was good fun, even, you know, Laura and him got along and were cordial and everything was great, but in this debate, I said, I'm wondering why it is that I'm not this crazy diehard Trump where I'm not tweeting insults at people, I'm not attacking anybody, but when I have even the lightest criticism of Ron DeSantis that's not even overt criticism, his actual campaign staff and the staff of his governor's office

00:42:18.000 Insult me and attack me! 0.97

00:42:19.000 And the immediate response was, oh yeah, but, you know, Alex Brusiewicz did this, and Laura Loomer did this, and I'm like, okay, stop.

00:42:25.000 I'm not them.

00:42:26.000 I don't care.

00:42:27.000 I'm asking you why it is that there's people like me or Mike Cernovich and several others who have said that the DeSantis surrogates and campaign staff have been vicious towards people who should be allies.

00:42:39.000 He didn't have an answer, and he said, oh, please, I can't believe I'm hearing this, blah, blah, blah.

00:42:42.000 I'm like, okay, fine.

00:42:43.000 There's no answer, and this is all that we deserve.

00:42:46.000 For the people that were, for a long time, like, a year ago, me praising DeSantis, and now I'm just being attacked relentlessly?

00:42:53.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:54.000 I will own it.

00:42:55.000 I am personally insulted, personally slighted, and I am just sick of their campaign and the campaign staff.

00:43:02.000 So you know what?

00:43:02.000 Screw it.

00:43:03.000 I mean, DeSantis is done.

00:43:04.000 He already fell to number three in the predicted.

00:43:07.000 That's because he's going to be number three at the end.

00:43:10.000 Vivek's on an upward trend, so it is Trump and Vivek is who we should be talking about.

00:43:14.000 And Vivek is smart enough to know he's not going to defeat Goliath here.

00:43:18.000 But this is what's so bad about Ron DeSantis, you know?

00:43:20.000 You just said it, everybody knows it, he's done.

00:43:22.000 But the sinister aspect of the Ron DeSantis campaign is that he knows that he has no chance.

00:43:27.000 Okay, I call it the Ron disaster campaign because it's absolutely disastrous. 0.83

00:43:30.000 Okay, I call him Ron Deacon because he's an absolute con man.

00:43:34.000 Okay, you just put his I mean the the fact that he has DE as his initials, right?

00:43:39.000 You could just you know, call him whatever you want.

00:43:40.000 But the fact is, is that Ron DeSantis is only existing in this presidential race for the sake of soaking up

00:43:47.000 valuable GOP donor resources that could otherwise be used for election integrity efforts or for litigation

00:43:55.000 to combat a weaponized government.

00:43:57.000 And when you look at all these candidates, when you combine all the resources collectively 0.99

00:44:01.000 at the end of this stupid primary, when everybody should just drop the hell out 0.98

00:44:05.000 and endorse Donald Trump and rally behind him for the sake of our country and getting rep, 1.00

00:44:11.000 and getting revenge rather, and retribution against these goddamn communists, okay? 1.00

00:44:17.000 It's gonna be an act. 1.00

00:44:19.000 It's gonna be an act.

00:44:21.000 One billion to $1.5 billion.

00:44:24.000 And that's a lot of money.

00:44:25.000 That's a lot of money.

00:44:26.000 I'm looking forward to it because our ad revenue is going to skyrocket.

00:44:29.000 They're taking that money and it's essentially going to guarantee Biden another four years if they don't drop out and get behind Donald Trump.

00:44:37.000 That's what this is about.

00:44:38.000 They know they can't win.

00:44:39.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:44:40.000 A hypothetical.

00:44:41.000 I was thinking this in my head.

00:44:43.000 I don't know any realistic scenario where Trump is forcefully removed that makes someone feel good about voting for someone else.

00:44:50.000 Like if you're a Trump supporter and they lock Trump up, you're like, no way I'm behind Trump.

00:44:54.000 So there's got to be some kind of scenario for me to ask this question.

00:44:57.000 So I'll go with an absurd scenario for the sake of argument.

00:45:01.000 Let's say that there is a super, you know, let's just say an evil globalist plants the Genesis device in the base of New York City and the only one who can stop it is Trump.

00:45:14.000 And Trump runs in and they're like, no, Trump, if you go in there, you'll be transported to another dimension and you'll be completely wiped from existence.

00:45:21.000 And he's like, it's the only thing that I can do to save all the people of the world.

00:45:24.000 And then he disrupts the device and he's gone.

00:45:27.000 Trump just sacrificed—he's gone.

00:45:29.000 There's no more Trump.

00:45:30.000 He's not forced out.

00:45:31.000 There's no possible scenario to vote for him.

00:45:34.000 Would you vote for Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:45:36.000 The only person that I'm voting for is President Donald Trump.

00:45:39.000 But that's why I asked it in the most absurd way possible.

00:45:41.000 Trump sacrifices himself to save humanity, and now he's gone forever.

00:45:46.000 And the only humanity is going to crumble because the only way that we're going to she's not entertaining your games pool. 1.00

00:45:52.000 She's not putting up with your games. 0.96

00:45:57.000 You know, I'm not really into all this like hopium copium bullshit that the Republican Party is trying to force feed voters, right? 0.98

00:46:03.000 I'm a realist. 0.93

00:46:04.000 Some people say that I'm negative, right?

00:46:06.000 Some people say that I speak too badly about Republicans.

00:46:09.000 Well, guess what?

00:46:10.000 I like to call myself an equal opportunity hater, okay?

00:46:13.000 Because I hate the Republican Party and I hate the Democrat Party.

00:46:16.000 I hate all political parties, actually.

00:46:18.000 And that's why I like Donald Trump, right?

00:46:19.000 Because he's a disruptor.

00:46:21.000 He's the sledgehammer to the Uniparty that has awakened and has provided a voice to the forgotten man and forgotten woman of this country. 0.96

00:46:29.000 Who have been completely screwed over by both political parties.

00:46:33.000 And that is the reason why, okay, Donald Trump is being attacked by the left and the right.

00:46:38.000 The people that are doing the most damage right now to Donald Trump aren't these prosecutors and these radical judges.

00:46:45.000 It's the Republicans in office, elected Republicans, that are staying silent.

00:46:51.000 I mean, where's Kevin McCarthy, right?

00:46:53.000 Our Congress is on vacation right now when they should actually be in Washington, D.C.

00:46:58.000 fighting against a weaponized government and taking a stand because the heist of the 2024 election is taking place before our eyes right now and Republicans are I'd like to say asleep at the wheel, but they're participating.

00:47:09.000 Let's shift gears.

00:47:10.000 I do want to talk about Trump's sledgehammer strategy because I feel like if we're all on a ship together, the United States, and the commander's like, I'm going to destroy this corruption in our system and just start breaking the ship apart, we all drown and die.

00:47:22.000 What vision does he offer other than I'm going to end all the bad stuff?

00:47:26.000 Tell me what you want to create.

00:47:27.000 So you say we're on a ship and he's taking a sledgehammer to it.

00:47:30.000 Let me give you a better analogy.

00:47:32.000 We're on a ship, and there's a bunch of little goblins running around ripping the cables out of the wall, and he's like, I'm gonna put an end to this.

00:47:39.000 And he gets a little net and starts catching all the little goblins in a net, and then he's chucking them into a safe little boat where they'll be brought to an island.

00:47:46.000 That's what he told me he was gonna do in 2016.

00:47:48.000 He said he was gonna get rid of the swamp, and he didn't.

00:47:50.000 And then he tried negotiating with the little goblins.

00:47:52.000 And now he's gonna destroy it?

00:47:53.000 I'm sorry, I need a creationist.

00:47:55.000 Let me try again.

00:47:56.000 In 2016, Trump said, we're going to get all the little gremlins off the boat and stop them from pulling out all the little golems.

00:48:01.000 And then... But before we do, let me bring some more golems on board. 1.00

00:48:04.000 No, and then he said, maybe the most effective way to deal with them is to fire some of them, bring some of them in, and convince them to stop doing this.

00:48:10.000 And then they all jumped on his back and started slashing at him.

00:48:12.000 He's like, ah, it's not working!

00:48:14.000 Then they kicked him off and he's like, okay, I got to come back and I just got to catch all these little golems and throw them out of here. 1.00

00:48:19.000 Sometimes you need to have ultimate destruction in order to have a rebirth of something great, right?

00:48:25.000 It's from the ashes, the phoenix will rise, okay?

00:48:25.000 What do they say?

00:48:28.000 Sometimes you need to have ultimate destruction and take a sledgehammer and burn a system to the ground if you want to create something.

00:48:37.000 Better, that's more hopeful, that isn't completely corrupted by this uniparty system.

00:48:42.000 And so, that's what I'm talking about, right?

00:48:44.000 About burning the system down and taking a sledgehammer to it. 0.63

00:48:48.000 I think that it's so corrupt, okay, and it's been so taken over, and it's been so infiltrated by this cancerous rot, okay, that it just needs to be completely taken down and destroyed and rebuilt. 0.59

00:49:00.000 That's like nuclear war talk.

00:49:03.000 Ultimate destruction is not the words.

00:49:05.000 I got a better one for you, Ian.

00:49:06.000 Uh, have you ever seen when they take a dirty coin, and they dip it in... What do they do?

00:49:11.000 It's like a... Coca-Cola?

00:49:12.000 No, an electrolysis, like water with electrical current, and then you watch all the grime just evaporate from it, and there is a beautiful, shiny silver coin beneath it.

00:49:22.000 That's how I view what Trump, like what I hope Trump can accomplish, is that there is this great country with a brilliant founding structure and documents.

00:49:33.000 I'm watching this show.

00:49:35.000 It's called The Uncanny Counter on Netflix.

00:49:38.000 It is, uh, it's a Korean show.

00:49:41.000 And the interesting thing is, there's a scene where, what caught my attention, was when a detective is questioning a guy, they say, don't plead the fifth.

00:49:48.000 That's what the translation said.

00:49:49.000 And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, South Korea has the fifth amendment?

00:49:52.000 Or something akin to it?

00:49:53.000 And so I looked up the, uh...

00:49:56.000 I looked up their version of the Constitution, and a lot of what South Korea has is very similar to what we have in the United States.

00:50:03.000 And it made me think, I'm like, man, we do have a really, really great system that I'm glad to see other countries flourish in protecting civil rights and human rights, this vision.

00:50:13.000 I'm not a big fan of the nation-building BS that's come out of it, but it is cool to see that this culture persisted.

00:50:20.000 This system that was built is now covered in crap and tarnish, and it's got little leeches and barnacles stuck to it, and we just gotta take that beautiful silver coin that's covered in grime, dip it in that little electrolysis water, and let all the stuff drip from it, and then pull up that shiny coin once again.

00:50:38.000 That is one, but it's more complex.

00:50:39.000 There's lots of pieces and parts that have been added onto the machine that are unnecessary.

00:50:42.000 I'm just giving you a simple analogy.

00:50:43.000 And if you take one of them out, the entire machine will break, or some of them out.

00:50:47.000 Hold on.

00:50:48.000 That, like, I get what you're saying about, because what I'm hearing is you're saying we should be cautious about any kind of...

00:50:55.000 We have a process to how to change the government.

00:50:57.000 I don't want to see this is the problem Elements of the car Donald Trump we don't have a ride

00:51:04.000 Donald Trump tried to use a redress of grievances the legal process in the Constitution having lawyers

00:51:11.000 Go out and ask what is the legal process by which we deal with this?

00:51:16.000 You had... Who was it?

00:51:18.000 I'm forgetting his name.

00:51:20.000 One of the guys was indicted, went to the alternate slate of electors, and then explained to the press, don't worry, in the event a lawsuit prevails, we will have this group here to sign the documents, and they called it a conspiracy.

00:51:31.000 One of the quote-unquote acts of conspiracy is that Donald Trump reached out to Brian Kemp and said, look, we want to... I forgot exactly what he said.

00:51:39.000 Something about...

00:51:41.000 Finding the fraud through whatever legal means.

00:51:44.000 And they said that was an illegal conspiracy.

00:51:47.000 Yeah.

00:51:47.000 So the point is, if there is a process by which to do this, Donald Trump was working that process.

00:51:53.000 OK, sorry, Phil.

00:51:53.000 So I interrupted you, Phil.

00:51:54.000 But yeah, thank you.

00:51:56.000 No, it's fine.

00:51:56.000 It's just that I lost what I was saying.

00:51:58.000 OK.

00:51:59.000 But this is my point.

00:51:59.000 OK.

00:52:01.000 I'm just concerned about the destruction as a tactic.

00:52:03.000 Is that?

00:52:03.000 Oh yeah, no, I'm not.

00:52:04.000 I want more.

00:52:05.000 More destruction of the United States?

00:52:08.000 I've said it before and I'll say it again.

00:52:09.000 I'm a patriotic guy.

00:52:10.000 When people say they want to destroy the United States, I start to get nervous.

00:52:12.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:52:14.000 Stop, Ian.

00:52:14.000 The system has been destroyed.

00:52:15.000 So this is what we're saying, is that you just said that there's a system, right?

00:52:19.000 There's a political process.

00:52:21.000 That process Really doesn't exist anymore because as we've seen, the Uniparty has hijacked it and they don't respect the process.

00:52:28.000 They don't respect the process.

00:52:30.000 They stole our election in 2020.

00:52:31.000 They stole our election.

00:52:34.000 They interfered in our election.

00:52:35.000 They colluded as state actors, right?

00:52:37.000 These big tech social media companies colluded with federal agencies and agents within the federal government and within the Biden campaign to Illegally interfere in our elections and completely bastardize and assault that process.

00:52:55.000 So, I understand where you're coming from, but that's just your vision of the process.

00:53:01.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

00:53:02.000 It's been destroyed and it's been corrupted.

00:53:04.000 In 1913, yeah.

00:53:05.000 It was co-opted by the International Banking Cartel.

00:53:08.000 It's been hijacked.

00:53:10.000 And the only way that we're going to get any type of process back is if we burn the system to the ground.

00:53:16.000 Listen, Ian, the point that I'm making is not burning the system to the ground.

00:53:19.000 I've talked about this multiple times on the podcast here.

00:53:24.000 I want to take apart the bureaucracy.

00:53:27.000 And that is going to mean taking apart the government because the government is made of multiple different bureaucracies.

00:53:33.000 So I do want to take apart the government.

00:53:35.000 I want to get rid of HUD.

00:53:37.000 I want to get rid of the DOT.

00:53:38.000 I want to get rid of a lot.

00:53:40.000 of cabinet-level bureaucracies.

00:53:42.000 That means firing a lot of people, putting people out of work.

00:53:46.000 And I'm fully aware of what that means.

00:53:50.000 I feel like I'm saying this the second time in a row, but there are too many people that talk about, I want to make cuts or I want to reform or whatever, and it never happens.

00:54:01.000 And every year the budget gets bigger.

00:54:03.000 And every year we go further into debt.

00:54:05.000 Every year they print more money.

00:54:11.000 Let's just cross our fingers for Trump-Ramaswamy 2024.

00:54:15.000 Because Ramaswamy can go out and do the advocacy work in areas that Trump may be weak on.

00:54:19.000 I've heard from a lot of people, and this is earlier, this is not today, but several months ago, Run-of-the-mill regular old people when I'm out hanging out in, you know, DC or whatever, liberal people saying they don't like Trump, but man, they cannot vote for Joe Biden.

00:54:34.000 And then I say, what if the VP is DeSantis?

00:54:35.000 And they're like, well, he could actually, you know, be a stabilizing force.

00:54:39.000 Okay, that might work.

00:54:40.000 I don't know if people feel that way today.

00:54:41.000 I actually think Ramaswamy is the right choice for VP if Ramaswamy would be willing to do it because he's clearly shown that he's very, very good at communicating with people from this professional standpoint, where Trump is this loud, boisterous, entertainment-style character.

00:54:58.000 I think Ramaswamy could pick up and fill it.

00:55:00.000 Ramaswamy likes the camera, too.

00:55:01.000 I mean, let's not... No, no, I'm not saying he doesn't.

00:55:03.000 Donald Trump has a loud presence, but, you know, Ramaswamy is not exactly a wallflower.

00:55:08.000 I'm not saying he's a wallflower.

00:55:09.000 He loves the spotlight.

00:55:10.000 Ramaswamy's persona is the suit-wearing... Well, let me answer that question for you.

00:55:14.000 And Trump is the, listen here, tough guy, I'm going to tell you.

00:55:18.000 And so Trump has that loud, you know, powerful presence.

00:55:22.000 And for the people that don't like that, Ramaswamy comes in in the suit with the tie and says, don't worry, I'll take care of this.

00:55:27.000 Let me translate.

00:55:28.000 I'm the kind of guy, man, where if something burns me, I'm not going to touch it again.

00:55:32.000 And Trump failed in 2016.

00:55:34.000 That whole four terms of drain the swamp and the COVID lockdown that he set in motion with giving Fauci all that power.

00:55:40.000 Like, I don't want to touch that again.

00:55:43.000 I don't see an alternative candidate.

00:55:47.000 Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:55:48.000 For sure, for sure.

00:55:49.000 And, you know, I would love to see him win.

00:55:51.000 I just don't think that is possible.

00:55:55.000 I don't know.

00:55:56.000 I don't know.

00:55:56.000 It's a year left, you know.

00:55:58.000 I mean, who knows what can happen.

00:55:59.000 Or it's over a year still.

00:56:01.000 I kind of still just want Trump to complete his arc.

00:56:05.000 Personally, I don't care.

00:56:06.000 I just want whoever is going to go in and injure the federal government.

00:56:11.000 Whoever's going to go in there and cut.

00:56:12.000 Ramaswamy was saying that he's going to cut 75% or he intends to cut 75% of the federal government by the end of his first term.

00:56:19.000 That sounds Absolutely dreamy.

00:56:22.000 Okay, that sounds like really, really, really compelling stuff to me.

00:56:26.000 So, again, whoever's going to cut the most government, whoever's going to make the government the smallest out of all of them, that's who I'm going for.

00:56:34.000 That's who I'm with.

00:56:35.000 I want to do a very hard segue because we talked a lot about politics, and let's just get into some cultural issues.

00:56:41.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I have bad news.

00:56:43.000 From TMZ.

00:56:45.000 Kid Rock enjoys a Bud Light? 1.00

00:56:47.000 Pussy. 1.00

00:56:50.000 So apparently Kid Rock was spotted at an event at the Sky Deck in Nashville Thursday night at Colt Ford's show, Drinking Bud Light. 0.99

00:57:01.000 So a lot of people are saying it's probably the only beer they had or whatever, but I don't know.

00:57:06.000 I guess the point of the story is this is a guy who opened fire on Bud Lights at FU, who now I guess doesn't care all that much and is back on drinking it.

00:57:16.000 I mean, look, I haven't had a drink in many, many, many, many years now.

00:57:21.000 It's like five, six years or whatever, so I'm not the one to talk smack.

00:57:26.000 After all of the stuff, like, you go out of the way to make a video and stuff, you'd think that he'd have the wits about him to drink whiskey that night.

00:57:37.000 It's not like Bud Light's the only option.

00:57:39.000 I mean, maybe he was.

00:57:40.000 Okay, fine.

00:57:40.000 But, like, dude, you could go a day without drinking to not get this photo.

00:57:45.000 I just think that there's too much attention put on this stuff.

00:57:47.000 You know, like, I don't drink, so I don't really care either way, you know, because I'm not drinking beer regardless.

00:57:52.000 But people get so worked up about this.

00:57:55.000 I don't know, I just find these stories to be a little silly at times because, okay, yeah, Dylan Mulvaney was put on a Bud Light can, and yeah, it's not exactly tasteful that Bud Light had an entire marketing campaign that was trying to force transgenderism on the public, but the obsessiveness, right, of, like, the right on this issue, it's just, I just feel like these are distractions and there's a lot more important issues in our country.

00:58:21.000 I understand you can boycott them, but the media, right, they'll fixate on it, they'll talk about it, but they're not talking about other things that matter.

00:58:28.000 There's so many stories that go unreported every single day because, especially the right, they have this obsessive nature and this obsessive quality and latching onto things and it's like, okay, we get it, okay?

00:58:40.000 It's kind of tired now.

00:58:42.000 We can move on to other things that are more important.

00:58:44.000 We can move on to, sorry, we can move on to other things that are also more important.

00:58:48.000 I think this is the most important thing.

00:58:52.000 As I've mentioned now, you know, 50 billion times ad nauseum to our audience, laws are only enforced if a culture supports it.

00:58:59.000 So the reason why police refuse to enforce the law against these adult sex shows that they're inviting children to is because television, Walmart, Amazon, and all their libraries and all the small businesses are putting up the flag saying, this is what we want.

00:59:15.000 So the cops are like, I know it's illegal, but we're not going to get involved because we'll be shunned and ostracized. 0.96

00:59:20.000 I understand where you're coming from, but there's just so much bullshit that's fed to people around these topics. 0.98

00:59:25.000 For example, right? 0.98

00:59:26.000 And this is what I'm talking about with them wasting everybody's time.

00:59:28.000 Everybody gets in a, you know, in a hissy fit about Bud Light and they say, okay, we're gonna boycott.

00:59:34.000 And then it's like all these viral videos of popular politicians coming out with videos like Ron DeSantis, for example, right?

00:59:41.000 He sat down with Benny Johnson, who had his camera crew come with Ron DeSantis and was like, Oh, so Governor, what's your favorite beer?

00:59:47.000 Oh, I really like a Guinness.

00:59:49.000 I really like Guinness, and I'm not going to drink Bud Light anymore.

00:59:52.000 Well, yeah, okay, I think that Bud Light's in the wrong for pushing transgenderism onto the public. 1.00

00:59:57.000 Well, guess what?

00:59:58.000 Guinness also, okay, had an entire marketing campaign where they had a TV commercial marketing Guinness beer.

01:00:06.000 And it was a teenager at a Christmas celebration.

01:00:10.000 You can even pull up the commercial, too, so people can see it.

01:00:12.000 Type in Guinness Transgender Commercial, and it's about a grandfather who sees, right, I think it's... I remember this one.

01:00:18.000 I think it's his grandson, and I guess the... The grandfather wears... The grandfather was like a secret cross-dresser and then realized... 0.69

01:00:26.000 That's J&B Whiskey.

01:00:27.000 Yeah.

01:00:28.000 Whatever it is.

01:00:28.000 Not Guinness.

01:00:29.000 No, but it was a Guinness.

01:00:30.000 There was a Guinness.

01:00:31.000 J&B Whiskey commercial?

01:00:32.000 No, but it was for Guinness.

01:00:35.000 If you type it in, Guinness had actually had this issue as well.

01:00:38.000 And so, Ron DeSantis then goes on this whole tirade with Benny Johnson, and he says, okay, well, I'm never gonna drink a Bud Light ever again.

01:00:45.000 And then two weeks later, what does he do?

01:00:47.000 He has a fundraiser in Washington, D.C., and one of the co-sponsors of this fundraiser is a guy named Slater Bayless.

01:00:55.000 Who is one of the lobbyists for Bud Light.

01:00:57.000 So just a clarification, the J&B Whiskey is, I guess it's the parent company for Guinness.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 Right, so Rose on Guinness. 0.92

01:01:08.000 Rag on Guinness.

01:01:09.000 So my point is to show you they're just not that educated.

01:01:13.000 If you're going to do a boycott on something and you're going to take such a hard line stance and you're going to be like, oh, I'm going to be against Bud Light because they're pushing transgenderism. 1.00

01:01:22.000 Actually, you know, like have the intellectual motivation to go investigate whether these other companies are pushing this.

01:01:29.000 It's embarrassing.

01:01:30.000 And it just shows, you know, how We deserve better as voters and as the American people.

01:01:36.000 We deserve better than politicians that are going to try to win our votes by saying that they're going to boycott Bud Light because they're against transgenderism and then they're going to have a closed door, slimy DC fundraiser with the lobbyists of the manufacturer of the child castration drugs and the manufacturers of all these, you know, all these...

01:01:53.000 Bud Light, for example. I hear the left making that same point, right? It's like, don't you know,

01:01:58.000 all these other brands do pride stuff and you guys, you silly conservatives are just focused 0.98

01:02:02.000 on Bud Light. I don't like that argument. It's like the beast is too big to stop, 0.95

01:02:07.000 so you might as well just give up now. Give in!

01:02:10.000 I'm not saying to give in, I'm saying that they need to be principled and then they waste all this time focusing on these... What's the point of people sitting down with Ron DeSantis and letting him bloviate about how he's against Bud Light when they're just gonna let him have a pass because he's having these fundraisers and they're not even morally consistent.

01:02:30.000 But I don't care about Ron DeSantis on this issue, my point is politics is downstream from culture.

01:02:36.000 If, and the left has known this for years, that's why they heavily invest in Hollywood and music.

01:02:41.000 It's why they ban, and like, you got this big song right now, Rich Men North of Richmond.

01:02:46.000 The reason it's big is because regular people have the ability to share a song that resonates

01:02:50.000 with them. What do we get from corporate mainstream media, this weird woke garbage nonsense? 0.98

01:02:57.000 You get Kim Petras, and you get Sam Smith doing Satanism on stage. 0.97

01:03:01.000 Then you get a guy in Appalachia singing about how they're screwing over the little guy, and regular people can push that and make it go viral.

01:03:08.000 Culture is what drives politics.

01:03:11.000 If you make something culturally unacceptable, it just can't happen.

01:03:15.000 I understand that.

01:03:16.000 I understand that.

01:03:17.000 I understand the point that you're trying to make, but what I'm saying is that in order... It's not exactly culturally unacceptable because they're still engaging in it behind closed doors, right?

01:03:24.000 Yeah, they lost $400 million.

01:03:25.000 So you actually have to... You actually have to stick to it, and we just have lazy politicians and... And Kid Rock.

01:03:31.000 Lazy people in our society that say, oh, well, you know, I'm just gonna have a closed-door fundraiser.

01:03:36.000 I'm gonna have a Bud Light.

01:03:37.000 They don't even stick with it, and then we end up having egg on our face, and it's just, it's embarrassing. 0.89

01:03:42.000 That's why we call out Kid Rock for hypocrisy.

01:03:45.000 Some people are saying it's a Pepsi can. 0.55

01:03:46.000 No, I checked.

01:03:47.000 Pepsi cans have vertical barcodes.

01:03:48.000 I looked.

01:03:49.000 That looks like a Bud Light can.

01:03:50.000 I'm gonna say I can't really tell what that can is.

01:03:53.000 Fine.

01:03:53.000 Fair point.

01:03:55.000 But Bud Light has lost 400 million dollars.

01:03:58.000 They've lost around 30... Anheuser... Anheuser... AB InBev has lost around 30% I think their stock.

01:04:05.000 It took a major hit.

01:04:06.000 AB InBev was forced to sell off like 8 different craft beers.

01:04:10.000 They have been hit so hard by this.

01:04:12.000 It is... It is to the point now...

01:04:15.000 Where you've got corporations trying to pull back from all this crazy leftist garbage. 0.95

01:04:21.000 Target, for instance, for the first time in six years missed their quarterly projections and lost money. 0.93

01:04:26.000 You've got Disney now facing a major backlash.

01:04:30.000 Netflix, Disney, and a bunch of these streaming channels lost subscribers, and it's because they keep trying to push this insane, woke leftism.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, and I understand.

01:04:39.000 I support the boycotts, but I think that at the end of the day, right, there's too many people who are given a free pass, right?

01:04:48.000 Especially politicians who like to go on Fox News and have their 30-second talking points about these issues.

01:04:55.000 It's just some- And fair point, I mean, these- They're some of the loudest people about it, but then they're doing it themselves, so- The politicians are grifters who are gonna be like, what's popular?

01:05:02.000 And just try and pretend that they're gonna be on board with it.

01:05:05.000 Like, DeSantis supporting Guinness after the fact, even though Guinness was getting criticized for the same thing.

01:05:08.000 Well, and Bud Light also, and I'm here to talk about Ron DeSantis, right, which is why I brought up Ron DeSantis and Bud Light, but, you know, I wanted to make people aware of that.

01:05:15.000 That's how you're going to capture Gen Z too, is talking about this cultural stuff, right?

01:05:19.000 I mean, that's what the kids care about.

01:05:20.000 They don't care about the nitty gritty and how deep these issues go.

01:05:24.000 They like the funny picture of Kid Rock holding a Bud Light after he just posted a video a few months earlier.

01:05:29.000 I think young people actually care about issues, you know?

01:05:34.000 There's a lot of young people that would really like to be able to have families and own a home and they're finding it unaffordable right now to own a home in America and the only candidate that is actually talking about Generation Z and Millennials being able to have affordable homes and be able to have affordable housing is Donald Trump.

01:05:51.000 He's the only one.

01:05:53.000 He's the only one who's actually talking about it and talking about His plan for, what does he call it?

01:05:57.000 Freedom cities, I believe, right?

01:05:59.000 Isn't that what he calls it, Tim?

01:06:00.000 His freedom cities so that young people in America can also experience the American dream.

01:06:04.000 I don't like this idea that, oh, it's just young people consumed with TikTok and culture.

01:06:09.000 There's a lot of young people that care about the economy, that care about the fact that by 2045, do you know that Generation Z is the last generation in this country that's going to be majority white?

01:06:19.000 We're not going to have a majority white America anymore.

01:06:23.000 So we, what I'm saying is that we are, you know, we are being... What is the race that people have to do with?

01:06:33.000 What I'm talking about is that we're being replaced, right?

01:06:36.000 So people have talked about replacement theory, and they've talked about the fact that we've been invaded.

01:06:42.000 We've had an immigration invasion into our country that is changing our culture. 1.00

01:06:47.000 So you're saying that politics is downstream from culture, but nobody seems to care about the fact that immigration is fundamentally transforming the traditional culture of our country.

01:06:57.000 And there's young people that care about that.

01:06:59.000 We've lost our culture.

01:07:04.000 Right, so the racial component I don't see as mattering.

01:07:08.000 No, but I'm just using that statistic because that was a news report that came out the other day.

01:07:12.000 There was a study out that said that Generation Z is going to be the last generation in which America, if you look at the census right now, we're currently a majority white country, Yeah, because because of the mass migration and all of the immigration into our country.

01:07:26.000 And so if you're making the argument that politics is downstream from culture, well, what's culture if we're not even going to have the same thing?

01:07:34.000 Well, I don't care about that statistic.

01:07:36.000 Well, I think that I think that I think that there's I just know that there's a lot of people in Generation Z that are focused on topics like immigration and the fact that we're being invaded.

01:07:45.000 It is important.

01:07:46.000 Rapid, uncontrolled immigration can distort a country's culture and then twist its laws. 1.00

01:07:51.000 So we do have to be careful about that.

01:07:52.000 I agree with you, though.

01:07:53.000 I don't think that, like, where your great-grandfather lived matters about your culture.

01:07:57.000 No, no, I'm saying a majority white. 0.89

01:08:00.000 I'm talking about the fact that, you know, like America, right, from its inception, right, I'm talking about America as a white Christian country. 0.74

01:08:06.000 That is originally, like, what our country was.

01:08:09.000 And so it's not, I don't, it's not for people to be, it's not supposed to be interpreted negatively.

01:08:15.000 These are facts, right?

01:08:16.000 These are facts.

01:08:17.000 People get so triggered when you say majority white, but this is factual information about the transformation of our country.

01:08:24.000 That doesn't matter to me.

01:08:26.000 I don't care if this country is white, black, Asian, Latino, mixed, whatever, so long as the Founding Fathers' ideals, the visions of the Constitution are upheld.

01:08:34.000 And so I can look to any number of the overwhelming majority of these white liberals Half of, this is the funniest thing about that statistic, it's like half of white people in this country are the Marxists and the Communists that are causing all the problems, that have the weirdest racial views on everything.

01:08:51.000 But I would just put it this way, that statistic means so little to me, I would gladly All of these communists, neo-marxists, white liberal left whatever, if they were like, we're gonna go to Venezuela, I'd be like, no, wait, don't.

01:09:05.000 And if all of the Venezuelans who are like, we hate living under communism and we dream for America came instead, I'd be like, oh no, we're not a white majority country anymore, but we have a whole bunch of freedom loving, libertarian minded people who love the founding fathers.

01:09:17.000 That is so much better than white communists.

01:09:19.000 Like when people used to come to this country, right? 1.00

01:09:21.000 They'd come from all different walks of life, but you'd be united under the American.

01:09:25.000 You're talking about the American dream.

01:09:26.000 That was the culture, right?

01:09:28.000 You work hard and you're going to reap the benefits.

01:09:30.000 Now it's just we've lost that.

01:09:33.000 So now you have all these cultures kind of clashing.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to make the point that, you know, a lot of times people think, oh,

01:09:38.000 you know, all the all the Generation Z cares about is pop culture when really what we should

01:09:43.000 be focused on when we talk about culture is our our culture as a country right?

01:09:47.000 And there's so much negativity around those terms, like nationalism, for example, and we've lost so much pride in our country.

01:09:54.000 The youth of this country has been taught, a lot of them, right?

01:09:56.000 They're being indoctrinated to hate America, to embrace Marxist and communist ideology.

01:10:02.000 And so when we talk about politics being downstream from culture, we need to reclaim our national culture, our national identity.

01:10:10.000 And that's not going to be done by boycotting things like Bud Light.

01:10:14.000 That's going to be done by securing our border and electing people like Donald Trump that are going to put America first.

01:10:22.000 That too, that too.

01:10:23.000 I'm just saying, like, these cultural battles, politics is downstream from culture.

01:10:27.000 Let's not allow Hollywood to come out and say, orange man bet.

01:10:33.000 Disney ran commercials.

01:10:35.000 This is the weirdest thing.

01:10:36.000 They ran Disney, the Disney Channel had anti-Trump commercials.

01:10:40.000 It's like for children.

01:10:41.000 We know what they're doing.

01:10:42.000 They're trying to indoctrinate kids.

01:10:44.000 So the cultural battle is extremely important, making sure the next generation, as you say, they care about this stuff.

01:10:48.000 So I'm not saying like Bud Light is the only thing we should focus on.

01:10:52.000 I'm saying cultural battles in general matter.

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:55.000 And we want to make sure that, look man, I was hanging out with family.

01:10:59.000 And my, it was my cousins and their kids and they were saying, Oh, you know, their teenage daughter doesn't care about news and politics. 0.62

01:11:05.000 You're not going to get her to care and bother with it.

01:11:07.000 And I was like, Oh, I can explain it to her.

01:11:08.000 So she'll understand.

01:11:09.000 And then I said, okay, um, you don't care about news, right?

01:11:12.000 And she's like, no.

01:11:13.000 And I was like, is there, is that like president politics, Congress?

01:11:16.000 Like, no, I don't care about that stuff.

01:11:18.000 And I said, okay, is there, is there someone in your school you don't like?

01:11:20.000 She's like, yeah.

01:11:21.000 And I was like, imagine if they were put in charge of you and they could make all the rules for you and tell you what to do.

01:11:25.000 And she went, no! 0.92

01:11:27.000 And I was like, okay, that's politics.

01:11:29.000 See, in high school, your politics is very small.

01:11:32.000 Once you graduate, now all of a sudden you're like, wait, that guy is making the rules for me!

01:11:36.000 No way, no.

01:11:37.000 What matters to you in your world is what surrounds you, so I was like, you'll get into news, but it's basically, like, all the drama you're going through in high school, imagine it was on TV, and that's what politics and news is for adults.

01:11:47.000 I thought you made a good point earlier, Laura, about boycotts and laziness, people.

01:11:51.000 I think it's important that if you're going to boycott a product that you find out the company that makes it, find out the company that owns them, and then boycott all of that product.

01:11:59.000 Yeah, and that's all I'm trying to say is that you see a lot of this oftentimes where people say, Oh, it's like a fad, right?

01:12:05.000 It's in the moment and people say, yeah, I'm going to boycott this, but they don't actually know what that means.

01:12:09.000 Like, do you know who actually owns the company, right?

01:12:11.000 It's like people saying, oh, I'm going to boycott PayPal, but then they're like, oh, okay, can I, can you send me your Venmo?

01:12:16.000 Well, do you know that PayPal owns Venmo?

01:12:18.000 Right.

01:12:18.000 So there's just so much intellectual laziness amongst our, our, our community and our population.

01:12:25.000 And it's embarrassing, right?

01:12:27.000 It's embarrassing when you see people talking about this and then, you know, they don't even know what they're talking about.

01:12:31.000 Cash App is the way to go if you want to boycott PayPal.

01:12:33.000 Well, I'm banned on Cash App, so I boycott all of them.

01:12:38.000 Didn't you have your Bitcoin address messed with or something?

01:12:41.000 No, that wasn't me.

01:12:42.000 That was somebody else.

01:12:43.000 I had my Venmo shut down.

01:12:46.000 I had my PayPal shut down.

01:12:47.000 I was banned on Cash App even though I had never even used Cash App.

01:12:51.000 I just had downloaded it, and when I went to use it for the first time, it said that I had been suspended.

01:12:56.000 I'm banned on GoFundMe.

01:12:58.000 But that's my point, right?

01:13:00.000 Let's talk about big tech.

01:13:01.000 So we have this other big story that's going on right now.

01:13:02.000 Everyone's losing their minds over on X. Elon Musk announces plan to remove the block feature on X in violation of Apple and Google Play Store guidelines.

01:13:11.000 I genuinely do not understand why Elon Musk would want to remove the block feature.

01:13:17.000 He says block is going to be deleted as a feature except for DMs.

01:13:21.000 He says it makes no sense.

01:13:24.000 I don't know.

01:13:24.000 It makes a lot of sense.

01:13:25.000 What do you guys, what do you, like, why not just, why not just mute?

01:13:28.000 No, because blocks stop someone from basically stalking you.

01:13:31.000 But then they just make a fake account and stalk you.

01:13:33.000 Then I'll block that one too.

01:13:34.000 But then they just make another one.

01:13:35.000 And I'll block that one too.

01:13:35.000 And then they make 50 more and then you're busy.

01:13:37.000 But then that makes so much time for you.

01:13:38.000 And I'll block them every single time.

01:13:39.000 I think it's better to mute someone and they don't know they're muted.

01:13:42.000 So they can scream to the void.

01:13:43.000 There are prominent high-profile people with millions of followers who don't make fake accounts, and their job exists to stalk your Twitter, take your tweets out of context, and insult you and smear you and make money off it.

01:13:56.000 I'm gonna make it harder for them by blocking them.

01:13:58.000 Now they'll have to make a fake account, but many of them do not do it.

01:14:01.000 Someone suggested if the mute button also made it so they can't post or reply to any of your stuff.

01:14:05.000 That's a block.

01:14:07.000 But they could still view your stuff.

01:14:09.000 Right, I can open anyone's Twitter page in a private tab and see their profile if they've blocked me, but you have to seek it out.

01:14:15.000 Blocking someone makes it so that you don't appear in their feed anymore and out of sight, out of mind.

01:14:20.000 It helps tremendously.

01:14:21.000 There's another thing you can do, and it's a forced unfollow, where you go to the person who's annoying and you block and unblock right away.

01:14:28.000 What this does is, if these people are stalking and like just being annoying or like, I try to use this word lightly, harassing.

01:14:35.000 Harassing to varying degrees is hard too on the internet, but there's a point where you can get to it if they're posting your address.

01:14:40.000 And I've had people post photos of my house and address and things like that.

01:14:43.000 If I block them, they'll go nuts.

01:14:45.000 They'll make a fake account, and then they'll start using that account to bother me again.

01:14:50.000 So one thing you can do is block and unblock really quick.

01:14:53.000 They're no longer following you, and now your posts won't appear in their feed, and they might slowly forget about you.

01:14:59.000 There's a couple ways you can do it, but more importantly, let's just put it this way.

01:15:03.000 There are prominent, high-profile, non-profit organizations who have staff who don't run sock puppet accounts, and if you block them, they stop talking about you.

01:15:12.000 That's why blocking works.

01:15:14.000 There's other things, too.

01:15:14.000 I mean, some people do not... If you're telling me they might make a fake profile and stalk me and harass me anyway, okay, well, I'll make it harder for them.

01:15:23.000 At least give me some options.

01:15:25.000 It's like, don't say, well, they're gonna break in your house anyway, so just open your windows.

01:15:29.000 It's like, no, I'll lock my windows.

01:15:30.000 Sure, they can smash the window and climb in, but I'll at least make it harder for them.

01:15:32.000 But it's kind of like blocking someone's, like, making them wear a blindfold so they can't see you.

01:15:37.000 It works.

01:15:37.000 Like, it's like— Yeah, but it's not really— It doesn't, because— Well, it's not— Bro, it works.

01:15:41.000 If your goal is to make it so someone can't see your social media, you can't do it.

01:15:44.000 They can always make a new account.

01:15:46.000 And it works.

01:15:47.000 It works.

01:15:48.000 The guys who work at Media Matters don't make fake accounts.

01:15:51.000 That's it.

01:15:51.000 How do you— There's no way to know that.

01:15:53.000 There— Okay, bro.

01:15:55.000 Yes, there is.

01:15:55.000 And I don't want to start talking about private security stuff beyond this, but you are completely wrong blocking matters.

01:16:01.000 It is one of the first things we do in a security assessment when you're dealing with people swatting and doxing and sending bomb threats.

01:16:08.000 The first thing you do is you make it harder for them to interact with you and your content.

01:16:12.000 Yeah, mute.

01:16:13.000 They can't call you.

01:16:14.000 Mute does not do that.

01:16:15.000 Every time they try and call your number to call a bomb threat or whatever, it just goes into the void.

01:16:20.000 It never picks up.

01:16:21.000 The point is, you want them, you want to be harder for them to see you.

01:16:27.000 That's it.

01:16:27.000 You want to reduce visibility.

01:16:29.000 It is not perfect, but it is the first action you take when dealing with stalking and harassment.

01:16:33.000 It also, it prevents them from, like, interacting with your tweets.

01:16:38.000 And your followers.

01:16:39.000 And your followers. 0.96

01:16:41.000 And posting porn and other... So that kind of stuff matters about, like, how they can interact with your account is different when it's a block versus a And some of these accounts have 50,000 followers, and they don't run sock puppets.

01:16:55.000 Their goal is, with their account, to harass you to gain followers.

01:17:00.000 If they can no longer do that, they'll target someone else.

01:17:02.000 That's why adding to the mute function that they can't post on your stuff or retweet your stuff... That's a block.

01:17:06.000 That's a block.

01:17:07.000 It's just a... No, but they can still see your stuff.

01:17:09.000 And they still can right now.

01:17:10.000 I personally think that if they're thinking of, like, actually removing the block feature, then they should make it a policy that you're not allowed to have an anonymous account because I'm in favor of keeping the block.

01:17:20.000 I agree with you.

01:17:22.000 As somebody who has been harassed online and has had stalkers and, you know, people be really, you know, weird online.

01:17:29.000 Uh, you sometimes have to block them, right?

01:17:31.000 Because people get obsessive.

01:17:32.000 Like, there are stalkers that, you know, latch onto you, and sometimes for your own safety, as Tim said, you have to block them because it becomes overbearing.

01:17:39.000 They start posting, they reply to your posts, with pictures of your house, with your family members' names.

01:17:44.000 And it's also a way, like, they can't say, oh, bullying is against our terms of service.

01:17:48.000 You can't have people saying that bullying is not acceptable online, but then also say, okay, you're not allowed to block somebody.

01:17:56.000 You have a right to decide what you don't want to see.

01:17:58.000 I don't personally think that people should be deplatformed.

01:18:00.000 I don't think that we should be banning people, but every single person should have the right to filter what they see, and if they want to block somebody, just like you can block someone on your phone, you should be able to block them on Twitter.

01:18:10.000 You have the right to limit who has access to you.

01:18:14.000 Yeah, you're not silencing them.

01:18:15.000 You have the right to say you don't have...

01:18:18.000 I don't want you interacting with me or anything that I am doing.

01:18:21.000 You have that right in reality, like in the physical world, you can leave someone's presence and then you just don't go where they are, and if they show up, you leave, or you might have to call the cops or whatever.

01:18:31.000 But you have the right to say that.

01:18:32.000 There's one thing I just saw, Linda Iaccarino just tweeted a few minutes ago, our users' safety on X is our number one priority, and we're building something better than the current state of block and mute.

01:18:42.000 Please keep the feedback coming.

01:18:44.000 This was in response to something that... Yeah, just like Twitter now has content creators, right?

01:18:49.000 Okay, well, we should send Linda this clip so she can listen to us, because these are good things.

01:18:54.000 Yeah, I think something could be better than block and mute.

01:18:56.000 I've always found block to be kind of ridiculous, because people can just make fake accounts anyway.

01:19:01.000 It's like, I can't make you shut your eyes when you're looking at me.

01:19:04.000 That's up to you.

01:19:05.000 I can ask you to leave.

01:19:06.000 I can close my ears off, but I can't shut your mouth, Phil.

01:19:10.000 Like, I can't do that.

01:19:10.000 So reply, guys.

01:19:11.000 There are people on Twitter who are reply guys.

01:19:14.000 They have, uh, there's one guy with 120,000 followers only because he refreshes your page, waits for a new tweet, and then immediately posts something gross or offensive or insulting.

01:19:28.000 If you block them, they can't do that anymore.

01:19:30.000 They won't make a new account because they're trying to build followers on their current account.

01:19:34.000 So blocking works.

01:19:36.000 More importantly, there are people who do this, and they will also post threats, photos of family members, private information.

01:19:43.000 You block them, they can't do it anymore.

01:19:45.000 There's a bunch of reasons why blocking is important.

01:19:46.000 Yeah, we need an amalgamation of the abilities.

01:19:50.000 When I block someone, I can still see them.

01:19:52.000 I don't want to see those people.

01:19:53.000 I want to mute them.

01:19:54.000 I don't ever want to think about that.

01:19:55.000 When you block someone, Twitter stops showing you everything from them.

01:19:57.000 Not always.

01:19:58.000 Or it'll say, this user has been muted or blocked.

01:20:01.000 I'm like, I know. 0.99

01:20:02.000 So don't show me that crap. 0.99

01:20:04.000 I don't want to know that they're posting. 0.98

01:20:05.000 Erase them from my field of view.

01:20:07.000 If you block someone, And then someone else quote tweets them and says something, it'll say this tweet is unavailable.

01:20:12.000 And then you can choose to go to the person's profile and view the tweet by clicking view tweet, but they limit what you see, giving you the option.

01:20:19.000 I also have a policy of anyone who blocks me that I see I block back.

01:20:23.000 Because then they're going to play that game where they don't want you to be able to read what they're saying about you, but they're going to go to your tweets and start doing the same, like doing the inverse.

01:20:30.000 I personally love mute.

01:20:32.000 Something that minds, we didn't have a mute function in the beginning.

01:20:34.000 I don't know if it has a mute function right now.

01:20:36.000 It's got a block function, but block is like, it's not that I don't want you to know what I'm up to.

01:20:40.000 I just don't want to listen to you.

01:20:42.000 Are you guys familiar with Steam?

01:20:45.000 I know Tim and Ian.

01:20:46.000 Are you guys familiar with Steam?

01:20:47.000 Yeah, it's like a video game software on your computer.

01:20:51.000 If you're caught cheating, it'll ban your computer.

01:20:53.000 So it doesn't matter if you make a new account, it knows you're logging in from the same piece of hardware and you will never be able to log into that game again and play.

01:21:00.000 Yeah, that's my question for you guys.

01:21:02.000 Would you guys be in favor of a hardware ban?

01:21:05.000 So you'd be able to block Ian if he's being gross on a hardware ban?

01:21:10.000 You can easily capture the wrong person with a hardware ban.

01:21:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:16.000 I don't like banning people.

01:21:17.000 Imagine someone going on a library computer.

01:21:19.000 So this actually happened with a lot of VPNs and stuff.

01:21:23.000 The whole network gets banned because one person uses a certain router or whatever, and then that IP is banned instantly.

01:21:30.000 A lot of these networks auto-ban VPN IPs anyway.

01:21:32.000 I think banning people is a failure of a concept.

01:21:35.000 You should be banning accounts if the account violates terms, and then if they make a new account, it's fair game.

01:21:41.000 If you want to put in your terms that someone that's been banned can't make a new account, I think that's dirty because people change and become better people.

01:21:48.000 and that's the idea is we want to make each other better. I don't think you should be banned for anything unless you're

01:21:51.000 inciting violence, you know?

01:21:52.000 I just think that the terms of service need to be uh, identical to the United States Constitution. Awful but

01:21:58.000 awful. You love mine.

01:21:59.000 That is mine. I don't look like you have Linda Iaccarino that just came out and basically said as a way to 0.99

01:22:04.000 to kind of soften the blow, the reality check that, hey guys, just kidding.

01:22:09.000 You know, they all lied to you when they said that the new ownership of Twitter, or X as they want to call it, is now pro-free speech.

01:22:14.000 It's not, okay?

01:22:15.000 Because they're creating these advertiser blocklists.

01:22:18.000 But instead of actually saying, hey, we're going to ban people that we don't like, they're going to say, hey, if you're a content creator, you can, you know, buy Twitter Blue, and then you can be a content creator, and you're going to get paid.

01:22:28.000 Except if you're lawful or awful, we're going to put you on a blacklist.

01:22:30.000 And that's what they just said that they're going to do.

01:22:32.000 At Twitter.

01:22:33.000 So it's basically the same censorship regime that we saw at Twitter 1.0, but they're trying to play good cop, bad cop by putting the blame on the advertisers.

01:22:43.000 So instead of it being, oh, Elon Musk or Linda Iaccarino are censoring me, it's now, oh, well, sorry, you're on our advertiser block list.

01:22:50.000 You have to take it up with the advertisers.

01:22:52.000 I kind of take it.

01:22:52.000 Let's talk about this.

01:22:53.000 I did just get paid on Twitter.

01:22:54.000 I got paid $4,377.

01:22:55.000 I had a total in the past 28 days of 241 million impressions.

01:22:56.000 I did just get paid on Twitter. I got paid $4,377. I had a total in the past 28 days of 241 million impressions.

01:23:09.000 And the reason I disclose all of this to you is because there are a lot of people with substantially less

01:23:15.000 impressions who got paid more, and people with more impressions who got paid substantially less.

01:23:20.000 Have you disclosed how much you got? You did, you tweeted it, right?

01:23:23.000 Yeah, so I need to check and see Because I don't think you can check your impressions on your phone.

01:23:27.000 You have to be on your computer to check it I think so.

01:23:29.000 I need to see what the impressions were but I know they're gonna be over a hundred million and But I have at least over 150 million impressions every single month, and I just got paid today, and I only got paid $190.22.

01:23:41.000 So if you open a browser and log in, and go to analytics.twitter.com, it'll show you right away what your impressions are.

01:23:47.000 But you gotta log in on the browser and do desktop site or whatever.

01:23:54.000 Without, I'm not gonna reveal anyone's identity, but we know, I know someone who received a couple hundred dollars with only a few thousand followers, and you've got how many, half a million?

01:24:02.000 I have half a million, and every single week I post multiple videos, almost exclusively on Twitter now because I don't really, I don't, I've never been monetized on YouTube, and for some reason, my Rumble channel, no matter how much I post, it just doesn't let me...

01:24:15.000 Grow my channel.

01:24:16.000 It's very strange.

01:24:17.000 And so I could get like 2,000 views on Rumble and YouTube, but then I'll get a million or five million views on a video that I upload to Twitter.

01:24:24.000 And I consistently get hundreds of thousands of impressions on all of my tweets.

01:24:30.000 All of my tweets go super viral and people can see from these videos they have millions of views, but even then I'm getting paid the same amount of money as people who have literally 70, I don't know, like And there were 570 followers.

01:24:43.000 I saw one person that had 2,000 followers and they said that they got paid $4,000.

01:24:48.000 This is the crazy thing.

01:24:50.000 Apparently they're saying this payment was just for the past 10 days.

01:24:53.000 I don't... And there are people... It doesn't make any sense.

01:24:56.000 Yeah, that's reportedly for the past 10 days.

01:24:59.000 And there are people who got paid like $10,000.

01:25:00.000 You're talking about Ian Miles Chong's numbers were off the hook.

01:25:04.000 He tweeted it out.

01:25:05.000 StillGrey is his Twitter account.

01:25:07.000 What did he get?

01:25:07.000 StillGrey.

01:25:08.000 He posted three payments over the last...

01:25:11.000 I don't know.

01:25:11.000 Four.

01:25:12.000 Four payments over the last month or something, and they were all pretty impressive.

01:25:15.000 It was like 6,000, 10,000.

01:25:16.000 Yeah, but I want to know, how is it that Ian Miles Chung, if you look at those payments, one of them was like 7,000, one of them was 13,000, I believe, and the other one was 16,000, because I tweeted about it before coming on tonight.

01:25:27.000 And I said, how is it that he has about 200,000 followers more than I have, okay?

01:25:32.000 And he's getting paid, you know... There it is.

01:25:35.000 Three hours ago.

01:25:36.000 Yeah, so if you look at it, he's got about 720,000, I don't know, you'll have to see the exact number, but over 700,000 followers, and he gets paid $7,302 this month.

01:25:40.000 I have half a million and I get paid $190.22.

01:25:41.000 I mean, I should at least be in the $1,000, $2,000, maybe even $3,000 range.

01:25:42.000 700,000 followers and he gets paid $7,302 this month.

01:25:49.000 I think they make 20 grand this month.

01:25:51.000 I have half a million and I get paid $190.22.

01:25:55.000 I mean I should at least be in the $1,000, $2,000, maybe even $3,000 range.

01:26:00.000 It's not like that's that much of a difference.

01:26:01.000 It's possible that the ads are weighted differently on YouTube.

01:26:04.000 I know different creators would get different revenue models.

01:26:07.000 It was all proprietary.

01:26:08.000 They'd be like, this guy we really like.

01:26:09.000 They're blacklisting people.

01:26:11.000 They actually said they're putting you on the lawful but awful.

01:26:13.000 But how do you know that?

01:26:15.000 I find Linda Iaccarino to be lawful but awful. 0.99

01:26:19.000 I can't stand her. 0.91

01:26:20.000 I don't like the fact that she's a world economic forum puppet.

01:26:22.000 I don't like the fact that she pushed the vaccine.

01:26:24.000 I don't like the fact that she's a leftist who came from corporate media.

01:26:28.000 I don't like that.

01:26:29.000 So if I were in a position of power like that someday, maybe she'll end up on a demonetization list, right? 0.96

01:26:34.000 Lawful but awful is subjective.

01:26:36.000 There are people that love me.

01:26:37.000 There are people that think I'm awful.

01:26:39.000 Just like there's people that love her and people who think she's awful.

01:26:42.000 And I think it's really ridiculous that we're allowing one person to decide what is lawful but awful.

01:26:48.000 It's discriminatory.

01:26:49.000 I don't think it should be one person, I agree, but there are situations where lawful things should be censored, in my opinion, as a social media admin, because no censorship is chaos.

01:26:58.000 You'll have blown-open body parts when you open your newsfeed.

01:27:01.000 Child abuse?

01:27:02.000 Yeah, stuff like that.

01:27:03.000 Well, child abuse is illegal, but viewing a blown-open body is legal.

01:27:08.000 But you don't want that on your website when everyone lands on your homepage, because no one will come.

01:27:13.000 We're not talking about porn or, you know, dead bodies on the timeline.

01:27:18.000 We're talking about, they're saying what's lawful and awful is I'm not, I'm not posting anything graphic or nasty.

01:27:24.000 I'm not violating terms of service.

01:27:26.000 I'm exposing Ron DeSantis every single day.

01:27:29.000 And I guess, you know, given the fact that maybe Elon Musk has come out and said that he supports Ron DeSantis, you know, he allowed for him to have his kickoff on Twitter.

01:27:36.000 Maybe that's why I'm being demonetized, right?

01:27:38.000 Who knows, but I think that politics are coming into play because I will say that everybody that messaged me today who has a large account on Twitter, who received a couple hundred dollars or fifty dollars when people that have a quarter of their following receive thousands of dollars, we all have one thing in common.

01:27:52.000 You know what that is?

01:27:54.000 Well, actually, it's two things, but it's really one thing if you encompass it all together.

01:27:57.000 We're all Trump supporters, and we're all outspoken critics of Ron DeSantis.

01:28:01.000 And I find it to be really interesting that the thing that everybody who received a large payout has in common, they're all outspoken supporters of Ron DeSantis.

01:28:08.000 It's just strange.

01:28:09.000 I think it's bizarre, and maybe someone can investigate.

01:28:13.000 Yeah, he's a DeSantis guy.

01:28:15.000 When I think about social media censorship, I don't like telling corporations what they can and can't do when it comes to their own company and their own data sources.

01:28:23.000 So I think we should make them free their software code, let other people spin up versions of X that will interoperate, and then they can compete terms of service.

01:28:31.000 So if my version of X is better than Elon's terms, and I don't ban people like you, or don't demonetize, people like you will come use the service, and people will come to my terms because my terms are better.

01:28:42.000 Otherwise you're just smashing a hammer down on corporations.

01:28:44.000 Did you just say I don't like telling companies what to do?

01:28:47.000 That's why we gotta make sure that we make them open up their code.

01:28:52.000 I don't like just systematically using the government to decide how a corporation has to run its business.

01:28:59.000 You want to make them open up their code.

01:29:02.000 I'm open to antitrust situations where monopolies need to be broken up and you can't split this

01:29:06.000 company apart like Instagram, Facebook, Facebook Messenger.

01:29:10.000 If you made those three separate companies, Zuckerberg would still own them all.

01:29:13.000 Do you think that, do you consider Twitter, would Twitter need an antitrust situation?

01:29:19.000 Yeah, it's a monopolistic force.

01:29:20.000 But there's Gab, there's Parler, there's, what's the other one?

01:29:25.000 There's Truth.

01:29:27.000 Shout out to Truth Social.

01:29:30.000 Mine isn't like Twitter.

01:29:31.000 I'm talking about that are Twitter kind of thing.

01:29:34.000 Blue Sky, Threads, Mastodon.

01:29:35.000 There's like five things that are, well Mastodon's different, but that's like five competitors for Twitter.

01:29:43.000 Like, Twitter is not, in any way, a monopoly.

01:29:47.000 Because there are competitors.

01:29:48.000 Just because the competitors don't, you know, don't get the same kind of traffic... They definitely are the state actors.

01:29:53.000 I mean, look, we saw... Look, Section 230 definitely needs to be repealed and these companies need to be held accountable.

01:29:59.000 I have an active RICO lawsuit right now against these companies.

01:30:02.000 Well, no, they're not.

01:30:04.000 They've transcended the role of a private company.

01:30:06.000 They are essentially state actors.

01:30:08.000 We saw during the congressional hearing that they're working on a third-party cloud server called JIRA.

01:30:14.000 JIRA, you know what JIRA is?

01:30:16.000 Project Management Software.

01:30:17.000 Yeah, but- They're using this to communicate with the DOJ and DHS and

01:30:21.000 FBI and CIA.

01:30:22.000 That's all fine.

01:30:23.000 You're no longer a private company.

01:30:24.000 That's all fine.

01:30:25.000 That doesn't mean you repeal all of 230.

01:30:26.000 You can implement it.

01:30:26.000 230 you can you're gonna Maybe these companies don't get 230 protection, fine, but you don't repeal 230 because they're companies that need to be treated differently under the law.

01:30:36.000 Well, I think it's important for people to understand that Section 230 was also created before these social media companies ever existed.

01:30:41.000 Fair enough.

01:30:42.000 And so it's really become a Frankenstein law, I guess you could say, that has turned into a monster.

01:30:51.000 Fair enough, and these companies, maybe their status needs to be looked at or whatever, that's totally fine, I have no issue with that, but you don't repeal all of 230 because of that.

01:30:59.000 answer to your question, Phil, about is it a monopoly? I defer to daily unique users.

01:31:05.000 And I would say like you've got to pick a number at some point, 500 million daily unique

01:31:08.000 you know, is it views or something like that?

01:31:10.000 I strongly disagree because there's there's multiple options that people can go to just

01:31:15.000 because Twitter is the most successful doesn't mean that there aren't other options for people

01:31:19.000 to go to. So like and look, I get it. They're like Google's like most of the Internet. I

01:31:25.000 get it. But like all my stuff runs runs on brave like and I don't use the Google stuff.

01:31:30.000 I have a real problem with saying, hey, we don't want to force companies to do stuff, but then being like, but we're going to go in there and we're going to make them open up their code for other people to go ahead and share and make it public.

01:31:44.000 And then we're going to force them to do this and force them to do that and especially because it sounds to me like you're looking to or you're talking about Twitter as a as a monopoly because of Twitter success not because of some kind of barrier to entry that Twitter and the government have You know, you might be right about Twitter.

01:32:04.000 I don't know the numbers on the back end, but you brought up Google, Alphabet.

01:32:08.000 competitors. None of them haven't been able to do what Twitter's done. Fair enough. But

01:32:12.000 that doesn't mean that the government needs to do something about Twitter because other

01:32:16.000 companies haven't been able to emulate their success.

01:32:19.000 You might be right about Twitter. I don't know the numbers on the back end, but you

01:32:22.000 brought up Google, Alphabet. Now that's one that I want to focus a little more confidently

01:32:27.000 on that it's a monopoly, that it runs ad networks. It runs search engines. They have art like

01:32:33.000 they own eight companies. I mean, Alphabet owns like things in all medical industry,

01:32:37.000 things so like Google's Maybe Twitter's still too small.

01:32:41.000 Maybe X is too small to be considered a monopolistic force.

01:32:43.000 But I mean, I find Google to be kind of monopolistic right now.

01:32:46.000 My phone is running on freaking Android Google.

01:32:50.000 I mean, I don't, I don't, I get wary about stuff.

01:32:53.000 I get wary about people or about the idea of the government getting involved just because a company is big.

01:32:59.000 And a lot of people think that because a company's big, that must mean that they had some kind of,

01:33:04.000 you know, some kind of either there's been a barrier to entry to other competitors in the

01:33:09.000 marketplace or something like that. And I don't think the government should just be like, okay,

01:33:14.000 well, we're going to stick our nose in. There's a lot of different, like you said, you mentioned

01:33:18.000 your Google phone.

01:33:20.000 I use an Apple phone.

01:33:21.000 App stores.

01:33:22.000 So Google and Apple have a monopoly on the app stores right now.

01:33:24.000 If you don't play by their rules and you want to get your app on there, you can't.

01:33:27.000 They won't let you load your app into their store.

01:33:28.000 That's a monopoly.

01:33:29.000 Didn't Tim, wasn't the Timcast app available from the website for a while first?

01:33:33.000 It still is.

01:33:34.000 Mine's went through hell trying to do it.

01:33:36.000 Good news, the apps are currently in review and should be up in a week.

01:33:40.000 So if you don't there's they have like rules like some people said of removing a block feature from Twitter or X would make it so that it can't be uploaded into the store now and that's a monopoly that's a decision by alphabet if Twitter can even exist in the network so like at some point I mean at some point we need to seize control of these corporations or they will seize control of us.

01:33:58.000 So I'll just say one thing real quick, too, for those that are wondering.

01:34:01.000 The reason I'm posting about the metrics and the money is because, as a new feature on Twitter, I think it's important people understand how much work you have to do, how much you get paid for that work, what kind of work gets money.

01:34:13.000 And so I had 243 million impressions in the last 28 days.

01:34:14.000 I got paid $4,377.

01:34:15.000 Axe staff told me this would be actually July.

01:34:16.000 I got paid $4,377.

01:34:19.000 Axe staff told me this would be actually July, I think half of July,

01:34:24.000 because everyone got paid on August 8th and I didn't.

01:34:27.000 They said all of that money I didn't get paid would be included in the next payout.

01:34:31.000 So this 400... It should follow through, that 243 million impressions, because we're looking about... It makes sense, it's about 28 days, is $4,377.

01:34:41.000 A lot of people are saying that...

01:34:46.000 Smaller channels, smaller Twitter accounts that get less views are getting substantially more money.

01:34:50.000 And that's because of interactivity.

01:34:52.000 So the Krasensteins get paid way more money because their tweets encourage debate.

01:34:57.000 Which means more people... It doesn't matter how many impressions you have, if people see me post something silly or stupid, and they see a million views, that doesn't mean they clicked the tweet and then saw an ad beneath it. 0.94

01:35:07.000 That's where you make money. 0.86

01:35:08.000 So, for people who are on Twitter and wondering why you're not getting paid, you make a tweet where you say, hey guys, what do you think about, you know, Donald Trump doing a backflip?

01:35:17.000 That's going to generate more money with 100,000 impressions than me posting a photo of Trump literally backflipping and getting 10 million views, but no one clicks.

01:35:25.000 What's so gross is when I'm going on Twitter, X, and it'll be a post that'll say,

01:35:29.000 you walk into the room, she's looking at you like this with an ice cream cone in your hand.

01:35:33.000 What do you do? 1.00

01:35:34.000 It's just such engagement farming trash. 1.00

01:35:37.000 I'm so sick. 1.00

01:35:37.000 Ever since they monetized like two months ago, it's this junk crap. 1.00

01:35:41.000 I mean, I will say it's a little bit of a bait and switch business practice. 0.95

01:35:44.000 First, it's like, okay, guys, you have to have, what was it, 5 million impressions per month and post a certain amount of times, what was it, 20, you have to have at least like 20 tweets.

01:35:55.000 Do you remember, Tim, what it was?

01:35:56.000 20 tweets per month, I think, or 20 tweets per week.

01:35:58.000 I don't know, 5 million.

01:35:59.000 But my point is, it's like, first it's, oh, okay, it's impression-based.

01:36:02.000 Now, all of a sudden, after they used it as a marketing gimmick to get all these people to sign up, like, oh, wow, Who can make $10,000 a month if I just decide to become a professional Twitter poster?

01:36:12.000 Now all of a sudden it's, oh just kidding guys, it's not Twitter impressions, but it's engagement within your posts.

01:36:17.000 It's just really dirty in my opinion because, you know, it's not what they told us and I look at some of these posts.

01:36:26.000 I post a lot more.

01:36:26.000 I get a lot of engagement.

01:36:28.000 I'm a very controversial person, if you couldn't notice or you couldn't tell already.

01:36:33.000 And the fact of the matter is there's always people in my comments debating and talking and I'm trending on Twitter multiple times a week and the fact that I can get that much engagement, I can trend on Twitter five times in one month and I'm getting paid $190.22?

01:36:46.000 I don't think so.

01:36:48.000 I think that there's a political bias here and I think that they need to provide more transparency with regards to how this algorithm is run and how their lawful but awful blacklist is being operated.

01:37:00.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats!

01:37:01.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, share it on Twitter.

01:37:07.000 Here's what you do.

01:37:08.000 Take the URL, go on X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it, post it, and then ask a question.

01:37:13.000 Hey, this episode with Laura Loomer is really interesting.

01:37:16.000 What did you think?

01:37:17.000 And then you'll get paid by X, apparently.

01:37:19.000 And you'll help the show.

01:37:21.000 Not if you're a Trump supporter, though.

01:37:22.000 No, you actually have to put, hey, they're wrong about DeSantis, do you agree?

01:37:25.000 You have to praise DeSantis, but if you're a Trump supporter and you tweet it, trust me, you're not going to get paid.

01:37:31.000 You get less money.

01:37:32.000 I think you need to be premium, meaning you need to be $8 a month for blue, and then you need to sign up your Stripe account and hook it all up before you even start getting paid.

01:37:40.000 Let's read!

01:37:41.000 Noah Sanders says, First today, baby.

01:37:43.000 Congratulations.

01:37:44.000 Tim, don't forget the chicken auction.

01:37:46.000 I hope to get an invitation.

01:37:47.000 Also, since you don't have an after show on Friday nights, how about an after show for the Culture War podcast?

01:37:52.000 Well, we are looking at ways to create a member premium thing for the Culture War.

01:37:58.000 The reason we do it on Friday mornings is because that's the only time we have to do it.

01:38:01.000 Uh, Friday nights, the plan has always been to do one of two things.

01:38:05.000 Live jam session after the show, which we used to do.

01:38:08.000 And we were building this new space for that purpose, and it's just- was supposed to be done two years ago.

01:38:12.000 So, uh, we- Ian and I were talking, we may just actually clean up the- the pre- the former Culture Wars space for music performances, and then just get that audio set up, because I don't know how long the new studio's gonna take to get done.

01:38:24.000 But the other thing we're planning is Poker with the Boys!

01:38:27.000 Which is... the live stream poker show.

01:38:30.000 We've been talking to a couple people about being the regulars and the hosts for the show and then getting regular players.

01:38:36.000 The show is not a poker show.

01:38:38.000 It is a table talk, goofing off show about a variety of issues while people play poker for fun.

01:38:44.000 So if you're not a poker person, it's really just having comedians hang out with, you know, people like, you know, we'll have Alex Jones sitting down playing a game and everyone's kind of talking. 1.00

01:38:53.000 The challenge we have with that is it's illegal to do everywhere and it's so stupid. 0.98

01:38:57.000 So we gotta figure that one out. 0.99

01:38:58.000 But, uh, that's the plan for Friday nights.

01:39:00.000 We'll see what happens.

01:39:01.000 Alright.

01:39:03.000 Keaton Carpenter says, Tim, share the show with your friends.

01:39:05.000 Tim, never post the link on his own Twitter.

01:39:08.000 Uh, I do sometimes.

01:39:09.000 And I did today.

01:39:10.000 Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

01:39:12.000 But, uh, but typically rarely.

01:39:14.000 And, cause we're doing the show.

01:39:16.000 You know?

01:39:18.000 I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, now is the time to circle the wagons around Trump.

01:39:21.000 He must show these communists we will not tolerate this.

01:39:24.000 A cabal should never be able to dictate who can or cannot be elected in any country.

01:39:29.000 Agreed.

01:39:31.000 Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy continues, says, I was deeply disappointed in Ben Shapiro in having a very short-term outlook on this, saying the indictments are the reason to drop Trump.

01:39:41.000 If they can do it once, they'll do it again.

01:39:43.000 That is a very, very short-term way of thinking, and it's um...

01:39:47.000 I don't know, myopic.

01:39:49.000 I don't know why people are surprised, though.

01:39:50.000 I mean, look, Ben Shapiro has a notorious Never Trumper.

01:39:53.000 I don't know why people even pay attention to him.

01:39:55.000 His voice is so grating, it makes my ears want to bleed.

01:39:59.000 And the thing about Ben Shapiro is that he's an original Never Trumper.

01:40:04.000 People need to remember, in 2016, he fabricated allegations of assault with Michelle Fields when he was working at Breitbart

01:40:12.000 against Corey Lewandowski, who was the campaign manager for Donald Trump. Okay. And then when

01:40:16.000 the video came out, it showed that they actually he actually didn't assault Michelle and Ben

01:40:21.000 had egg on his face and he has continued to be aggressively anti Trump. So I don't think people

01:40:27.000 really should be taking him seriously on any of those. If anything, the indictments I make me lean

01:40:32.000 more towards Trump because that you we can't allow this on Ben Shapiro has also

01:40:36.000 received a hundred over $110,000 in payments as I posted on my Twitter the other day from Ron DeSantis.

01:40:43.000 If you look at the financial reports.

01:40:45.000 They bought a newsletter thing, right?

01:40:46.000 Is that what they did?

01:40:46.000 Whatever they want to say, it's still a conflict of interest because he has a financial relationship, whether it's pre-existing or current.

01:40:53.000 That's a conflict of interest that he should be disclosing, which he has never publicly disclosed to his audience.

01:40:58.000 I could be wrong, but I think what it is, the DeSantis campaign bought, like, a newsletter advertising thing?

01:41:04.000 They say that it was list rentals, but I don't know.

01:41:07.000 I've rented lists before, and you don't get checks that big.

01:41:10.000 Well, I mean, the Daily Wire's got a big list.

01:41:13.000 I've got a big list, too.

01:41:14.000 I've got a massive list.

01:41:16.000 And I'll tell you right now, those aren't the type of payments that you get for list rentals.

01:41:20.000 I'm just saying that that's the same thing that the Babylon Bee said when they got, you know, called out for having their ties with Ron DeSantis.

01:41:29.000 But regardless, he has a history.

01:41:31.000 I think people just need to investigate, right?

01:41:34.000 Like I do, and look into the backgrounds of these people, and you won't be so surprised if you really see their past comments.

01:41:39.000 K2Water says, Tim, for the earlier segment today, rioters and looters are different races, but I would bet a majority of them vote Democrat.

01:41:39.000 I like this one.

01:41:47.000 If Civil War broke from riots, it would still be left-wing versus right-wing.

01:41:50.000 Yeah, so the point that I was making, I did a segment, I record segments, extra bonus segments throughout the week, and then put them all, put the extra ones on Friday, was that you get a lot of people who will post these riots, and it's a bunch of like black teenagers, and then I'm like, yeah, but come on, post the Antifa riots, all white people. 0.89

01:42:05.000 And I'm like, my point is, like, it's not the racial component, as K2Water nails, it's a bunch of Democrats. 0.83

01:42:13.000 Like, it's leftist Democrat voters that are doing this.

01:42:16.000 It's not like, it's not a bunch of conservatives going around smashing cars and looting Nordstrom.

01:42:21.000 They're not voting Republican.

01:42:23.000 Because Republicans are like, we will arrest these people.

01:42:24.000 And the Democrats are like, we'll let them go.

01:42:26.000 Gee, I wonder who they're voting for.

01:42:28.000 Let's grab some more!

01:42:30.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:42:31.000 says, Laura, I did an X poll from the culture war about who won the debate.

01:42:35.000 You won with 69%, with an astounding 26% in second place was loud noises.

01:42:42.000 So Bill got, what, like two or three?

01:42:45.000 Respect to Bill for coming on the show, at the very least, because a lot of the Desantis people just won't come on or can't come on. 1.00

01:42:53.000 I saw about 40 minutes of it, and you guys all were making good points.

01:42:55.000 I highly recommend checking it out.

01:42:57.000 It was fun.

01:42:58.000 It was very fun.

01:42:59.000 Bill was a really good sport about being called an... Okay, he said that he was called an aging lesbian, or he looked like one. 0.91

01:43:06.000 No, he said that Alex Brusewitz, I called him, had said that he looked like an aging lesbian and he was complaining and trying to say, oh, Trump supporters are so mean, you know, all this victim stuff that the DeSantis people love doing and engaging in, as if they're not online attacking Trump supporters and saying, oh, Donald Trump should be in prison.

01:43:23.000 And then Alex Brusiewicz took the clip of him just saying, I look like, and ran it.

01:43:28.000 Michael Matlis has already retweeted it.

01:43:30.000 Leave it to Brusiewicz.

01:43:31.000 And then Bill, I gotta give him credit, afterwards he started laughing, he says, I knew the moment I said it, they got me.

01:43:36.000 And they were gonna make that clip, and he laughed about it.

01:43:38.000 So, you know, respect to Bill for coming on.

01:43:42.000 Because look, I'll be honest, we even talked about it, a bunch of, when we reach out to the DeSantis people, like, guys, we wanna have an honest conversation.

01:43:49.000 They refuse to do it.

01:43:50.000 And they are not allowed to do it, so.

01:43:53.000 Alright, let's go!

01:43:54.000 TheBonusHoles, good name, says, Instead of getting rid of the block button, Elon should make good on his promise to make Twitter free speech.

01:44:00.000 Fair point.

01:44:02.000 Free speech isn't free, though.

01:44:03.000 We have a lot of rules in this country that allow us to speak freely.

01:44:06.000 We have a good one for Laura here. 1.00

01:44:08.000 Vivian Reed says, In the culture war, Laura mentioned about the quid pro quo with Kenneth Griffin, but never got a chance to talk about it.

01:44:14.000 Can you guys talk about it a little here?

01:44:16.000 Yeah, so there was a report that came out yesterday or the I believe it the day before yesterday and I think it was originally if I recall correctly published in Bloomberg and then it was recirculated by Yahoo as well since they have a paywall at Bloomberg and essentially what it was is it said that Ken Griffin had actually shaped the legislation that Ron DeSantis, if you recall, last year had said that he was going to make it illegal after there was this really big viral story, went viral about how individuals tied to the Chinese Communist Party wanted to purchase land near Ocala, Florida, which is close to where I live, and they wanted to have it be a medical testing center for monkeys.

01:44:59.000 And people started freaking out, and then it prompted DeSantis to say, okay, we're going to pass legislation to make it so that Chinese nationals cannot acquire land in the state of Florida if, you know, they're tied to the CCP.

01:45:12.000 Well, ultimately, right, Ron DeSantis did this, and he used it as campaign fodder to say that he was protecting Floridians from foreign land grabs, right, since a lot of Chinese nationals are buying up a lot of America's farmland. 0.90

01:45:24.000 But it was another example of him misrepresenting what he actually did.

01:45:29.000 He had originally said he was going to make it all-encompassing, right, of all the land.

01:45:34.000 But then Ken Griffin, who, as I pointed out before, is the head of the Citadel Hedge Fund, which recently received an effusion of $1.5 billion from Sequoia, which is heavily compromised by the CCP.

01:45:49.000 And additionally, one of the global managing partners of Sequoia, a guy by the name of Doug Leone, just donated $2 million to Ron DeSantis' PAC.

01:46:00.000 And so Ken Griffin, because he has so many financial interests and ties in China, and his net worth is now worth over $22 billion as a result of that infusion, which allowed him to Participate in the stock and bonds market in China with the Chinese Communist Party.

01:46:16.000 He went to DeSantis and had him change the language, right?

01:46:20.000 And it was never disclosed to the public.

01:46:22.000 So this is quid pro quo because in return, Ron DeSantis received a donation of $5 million to his political committee from Ken Griffin.

01:46:31.000 And that's going to now allow, right?

01:46:34.000 Right on.

01:46:34.000 Chinese nationals to acquire land and what it can Griffin do well right before

01:46:38.000 Ron DeSantis filed to run for president he moved himself and a lot of his

01:46:42.000 employees to Miami Florida. What did DeSantis change exactly language-wise? So

01:46:46.000 now it's near now it's only land only near military bases I believe as opposed

01:46:52.000 to all land. Yeah. Right on. Let's read some more. Where we at?

01:46:58.000 Kurtalingus says, if a state removes Trump from the ballot, can the people of that state still write his name in?

01:47:04.000 Two, Seamus coffee spoons, the flavored ones that dissolve as you stir.

01:47:08.000 That's a really good idea.

01:47:08.000 Where'd my spoon go?

01:47:10.000 Yes, if Trump's name is removed, you can write him in, of course.

01:47:13.000 But the point is, there's gonna be a lot of voters who normally just vote Democrat, Republican, and they're gonna be like, huh?

01:47:18.000 And they're not gonna be able to vote for anybody.

01:47:19.000 It'd be funny to have a biodegradable spoon in every bag of Seamus coffee. 0.76

01:47:23.000 It disintegrates in your coffee.

01:47:26.000 I wish we could do that.

01:47:27.000 I don't think we can do that.

01:47:28.000 It's a big game.

01:47:29.000 That would be amazing.

01:47:30.000 Like, yeah, a cinnamon spoon or whatever.

01:47:33.000 Like a cinnamon sugar cube.

01:47:35.000 The color of the Irish flag, yeah.

01:47:37.000 I mean, it would take a long time to figure out how to do something.

01:47:40.000 Cellulose, maybe?

01:47:41.000 No, no, no.

01:47:42.000 You could do a sugar thing, but it's just like, to actually get it manufactured, packaged, attached to the bag, shipped out.

01:47:48.000 We are nowhere near that level.

01:47:52.000 Maybe once the actual physical location is up, we can start doing specialty products.

01:47:56.000 Alright, alright, we'll grab some more.

01:48:00.000 Anime Lair says, Hi Tim, I'm one of those uninitiated people you speak of, and I was just wondering if you'd get in contact with you directly.

01:48:06.000 Let me know so I won't message again.

01:48:07.000 I don't want to look like some crazy stalker.

01:48:09.000 I don't believe you're uninitiated, and that's why I read your comment, because you know that I use the term uninitiated, and you are watching this show and reached out.

01:48:18.000 Um, my email, I have an email on the website.

01:48:20.000 But, uh, I gotta be completely honest.

01:48:22.000 It's almost impossible to get in touch with me.

01:48:24.000 I don't answer my phone anymore.

01:48:25.000 Uh, I... Everything's screened.

01:48:28.000 I... Don't own a computer.

01:48:30.000 I don't own a phone.

01:48:31.000 And, uh, it's impossible for me to have these devices.

01:48:33.000 So, there you go.

01:48:35.000 Welcome to the club, guy.

01:48:36.000 I get 400 emails per day.

01:48:38.000 I delete most of them instantly.

01:48:39.000 I'll message Tim and maybe hear back from him the next day.

01:48:42.000 Maybe.

01:48:43.000 I just see him at night.

01:48:44.000 Unless it's really important that I'll text you.

01:48:47.000 400 plus emails by the time I wake up in the morning and I'm just like, delete.

01:48:51.000 And then my phone is just, it's insane.

01:48:53.000 And there are people that are like, dude, I texted you.

01:48:55.000 What's going on?

01:48:56.000 I'm like, bro, I got 8,000 texts yesterday.

01:48:57.000 That's how I feel.

01:48:58.000 It drives me crazy.

01:48:59.000 I just can't.

01:49:00.000 I can't answer it.

01:49:01.000 You know?

01:49:01.000 Yeah, and people just don't have boundaries, too, when you're a public figure, right?

01:49:04.000 They just think that, oh, you're just going to drop your life and everything that's going on because I'm the most important thing in the world, right?

01:49:10.000 I'm just speaking of the people that, of course, want to blow your phone up and annoy you all day.

01:49:14.000 You know the number one question I get asked is?

01:49:16.000 What?

01:49:16.000 What do you guys think is the number one question people text me for?

01:49:20.000 Is it okay if I message you?

01:49:21.000 No.

01:49:21.000 Can you retweet this?

01:49:23.000 Close, close.

01:49:24.000 Can I come on your show?

01:49:25.000 Close.

01:49:27.000 Can you shout me out?

01:49:28.000 Because those are like number three and number four.

01:49:31.000 Can you shout me out online?

01:49:33.000 A shout-out retweet, you're close.

01:49:34.000 Any idea?

01:49:36.000 Read this article?

01:49:37.000 No.

01:49:37.000 Really?

01:49:37.000 You guys can't figure it out?

01:49:38.000 They want their own Casper flavor.

01:49:40.000 No.

01:49:41.000 Alright, nobody can get it?

01:49:42.000 No.

01:49:42.000 What do you look like without your hat on?

01:49:44.000 That's a good one, and I still want to know.

01:49:45.000 The number one question I get asked by anybody who's for some reason acquired my phone number has to do with another show.

01:49:57.000 Will you go on... Nope.

01:49:59.000 Will you have Sam Seder on?

01:50:01.000 Nope.

01:50:02.000 Nobody's texting me that!

01:50:03.000 In a perfect world.

01:50:05.000 InfoWars?

01:50:05.000 Is it about Vice?

01:50:06.000 No.

01:50:06.000 Okay, you guys lose.

01:50:08.000 It's, can you call Joe Rogan for me?

01:50:10.000 Oh yeah, I want you to let him know to tell Tom Segura to call his next tour.

01:50:14.000 I'm still coming.

01:50:16.000 Dude, Tom Segura.

01:50:17.000 Tom, name your next tour.

01:50:18.000 I'm still coming, bro.

01:50:19.000 I get emails and phone calls you wouldn't believe from like, hey man, it was really good seeing you a couple weeks ago.

01:50:24.000 I came out, thanks for having me.

01:50:26.000 Can you reach out to Joe Rogan for me?

01:50:28.000 And I'm like, I just delete the email.

01:50:31.000 Yeah.

01:50:31.000 People are like, Phil, you know, can you tell Zoltan this from Five Finger?

01:50:35.000 Can you tell Ivan this?

01:50:36.000 Or can you tell At?

01:50:38.000 That happens a lot.

01:50:39.000 I just tell people, I'm like, I'm gonna be really honest with you, okay?

01:50:42.000 I'll be very, very blunt.

01:50:44.000 What do you think would happen if every time someone asked me to reach out to Joe Rogan... He'd block you instantly.

01:50:49.000 He'd block you.

01:50:50.000 He'd have to.

01:50:51.000 Right?

01:50:52.000 I'm just texting Joe non-stop like- You know how many messages I've received since I was with President Trump?

01:50:58.000 Can you talk to Trump for me?

01:50:58.000 It's just crazy.

01:50:59.000 It's like all of a sudden, you know, I have a photo of President Trump and now I probably had, and this is no exaggeration, and I still haven't even gone through all my messages.

01:51:06.000 I mean, if I look right now, how many is it?

01:51:09.000 It's crazy.

01:51:10.000 It's like, dude, I might... 1,247 unread text messages.

01:51:15.000 And it's like, oh, can you get me a meeting?

01:51:17.000 Can you do this?

01:51:17.000 And I just, I don't, I can't reply.

01:51:20.000 This is why everyone's like, why don't you get Trump on the show?

01:51:24.000 We would love to have it.

01:51:25.000 It's because I am not going to go to all of the people we know who are in Trump's circle and be like, hey, talk to Trump.

01:51:31.000 It's not happening.

01:51:31.000 Yeah.

01:51:32.000 Like, when Don Jr.

01:51:33.000 was here, we would like, of course, we always love to have your dad on, you know, if it happens, it happens, but we'll go through the normal channels, and I'm not gonna pester everybody, but it's a lot, and the funny thing is, like, you know, I don't talk to Joe, like, So Tom Segura's tour is called I'm Coming Everywhere.

01:51:50.000 Hilarious.

01:51:50.000 I want his next tour to be called I'm Still Coming.

01:51:52.000 I was like, hey, what's up, buddy?

01:51:54.000 You know and that's about it It might be something random like an article comes out 0.97

01:51:57.000 about Bigfoot and then I'll be like I just have a shit So Tom Segura's tour is called. I'm I'm coming everywhere 0.96

01:52:03.000 hilarious. I want his next tour to be called. I'm still coming

01:52:07.000 I just got to get the message through to Tom. So can you message Joe Rogan and ask him?

01:52:10.000 That's right.

01:52:11.000 Okay.

01:52:11.000 You'll notice if you guys, if you start doing, it's not personal when you don't get responded to by people that are on TV.

01:52:16.000 It's just, it gets so big so fast that like, and you want to maintain still like a normal human life.

01:52:21.000 It just becomes overwhelming, you know, because people, people just don't really understand how unrealistic their requests are.

01:52:26.000 Right?

01:52:27.000 Like I get asked all the time, cause I'm really good friends with Roger Stone.

01:52:30.000 Oh, can you get Roger to come speak at this event?

01:52:32.000 Can you get this person to come speak here?

01:52:34.000 It's like, You know, these people have speaking fees, right?

01:52:36.000 A lot of people don't seem to understand the sacrifice that you're asking somebody to make by, you know, harassing and badgering another person to come attend an event.

01:52:47.000 And there's just no personal boundaries, I feel, when you're a public figure, and it's hard to kind of have that life.

01:52:53.000 It's very overwhelming, and I struggle with it.

01:52:58.000 You know, everyone always wants to go on Joe Rogan's show.

01:52:59.000 There's a lot of people, I think, who would do really, really well on the biggest podcast in the world.

01:53:04.000 But the first thing I told Joe before I went on his show was, hey man, I'm never going to ask you to go on your show.

01:53:09.000 Yeah.

01:53:10.000 You know, you hit me up anytime you think that I'm a good fit.

01:53:12.000 And he was like, no, it's cool, man.

01:53:13.000 We'll figure it out.

01:53:14.000 And that was it.

01:53:14.000 And then he called me back like an hour later, like, hey, man, actually, can you fly out this Friday?

01:53:18.000 And I was like, that's in two days.

01:53:19.000 Yeah.

01:53:20.000 And then, you know, my attitude is very much You gotta understand how many people, everyone is trying to get something from someone else because they think the key to their success is another person, but it's really just gonna be you.

01:53:32.000 You know, I will say something really fascinating.

01:53:34.000 As you get older, and you notice the people that you knew and where they end up and where some people don't end up, it's just like an interesting thing to reflect on.

01:53:42.000 I'm young.

01:53:43.000 I remember how I viewed all the people in the world who were doing great things and how I felt about it.

01:53:48.000 Right.

01:53:49.000 And now where I am now doing this show and everything.

01:53:52.000 But what's always amazing to me is seeing people from my neighborhood when we were kids who were just some random kid being a pro skateboarder or a rock star.

01:54:00.000 And then someone being like, oh, you realize that dude in the band, like he's signed to a major label deal.

01:54:04.000 Like they got like 100 million. 0.99

01:54:05.000 I'm like, whoa, damn, John's doing that. 0.99

01:54:07.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:54:08.000 I don't even think about these people anymore.

01:54:10.000 It's like a crazy thought.

01:54:12.000 But a lot of this stuff is like, you can track, you can look back at everything they did and you're like, oh, I see how they made it there.

01:54:17.000 They did the work.

01:54:18.000 Some people get lucky, don't get me wrong.

01:54:19.000 Yeah, like getting that, your big break, people seeking that big break where you get put in the spotlight and a hundred million people see you.

01:54:25.000 It's still, it's up to you to make something of that big break.

01:54:27.000 Rogan did that to me.

01:54:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:30.000 I had 300,000 subscribers when Joe asked me to come on his show, and then I jumped up to like 600.

01:54:35.000 And then the next time I came on his show, I jumped up to 800.

01:54:37.000 But if you hadn't put in five years of daily work, you wouldn't even be asked to go on the show in the first place.

01:54:41.000 Yeah, you never know when you're gonna get your break.

01:54:42.000 It just comes randomly when you least expect it, you know?

01:54:45.000 And so, you have to work hard.

01:54:46.000 You have to do it on your own.

01:54:47.000 And people often ask me when I speak, well, How do I get involved?

01:54:50.000 How do I organize?

01:54:51.000 What's the best way to organize?

01:54:52.000 And I think that so many people always, they rely on others, right?

01:54:55.000 They have this group mentality of, okay, I need other people to join with me, when you just have to recognize the power of your own actions, the power of taking the first step, and the power of your own voice.

01:55:07.000 And really, the most powerful thing that a person can do is be courageous, because you don't know, right, how far Being courageous and taking a first step and being a leader and doing something innovative on your own can be.

01:55:20.000 I think that some of the most transformative and impactful things that have happened in our world have been done by just people acting on their own accord.

01:55:30.000 Let's simplify it.

01:55:32.000 One day, Laura Loomer decided to go hire some illegal immigrant workers at a Home Depot and go to Nancy Pelosi's house. 1.00

01:55:39.000 There's no barrier for entry for that.

01:55:41.000 There's no gatekeeper, there's no industry.

01:55:43.000 Literally, Laura, this is what I say when you handcuff yourself to Twitter's door.

01:55:48.000 By myself.

01:55:49.000 You you have done things that have generated more press than billion-dollar PR firms could ever wish for

01:55:54.000 One of the reasons why they ban you But it was funny because when they banned you from Twitter

01:55:58.000 and then the next thing we know all these journals are like Laura Loomer

01:56:01.000 Has handcuffed herself to the door of Twitter You were the top trend in the world on Twitter on a 0.97

01:56:05.000 platform that just tried to remove you You I was I was the top trend on Twitter while I was no big

01:56:10.000 friend while I believe president Trump and

01:56:13.000 Vladimir Putin were at the g20 summit and they were even talking about it at the g20 summit because I had a friend

01:56:18.000 of mine who Was there reporting on it and they told me that Emmanuel

01:56:21.000 Macron had turned to them and was talking about Oh my god, somebody just handcuffed themselves to Twitter

01:56:28.000 So like I said before, you sometimes just have to do things on your own and it may sound crazy and it may sound absurd but It could be transformative.

01:56:38.000 You could change the world.

01:56:39.000 Let's read more.

01:56:39.000 El Cid says, Tim, you need to debate Ben Shapiro on why Trump should be the nominee and not DeSantis.

01:56:45.000 Yeah, I'd love to.

01:56:46.000 I don't think so.

01:56:47.000 I don't think it would happen because we're both doing our own shows.

01:56:48.000 We're both very busy.

01:56:50.000 But I don't imagine it would be a very strong debate because I don't think that Ben and I are the... Like, I know the meme with Ben is debate me, but I think the reality is for Ben is have a conversation with me about it.

01:57:01.000 We'd probably go back and forth on a few points.

01:57:03.000 He'd have to concede a few things.

01:57:04.000 I'd probably say, I get where you're coming from on a bunch of different things.

01:57:07.000 You know, but I definitely think it should be Trump and not DeSantis.

01:57:11.000 And I'm just, I'm sorry, man.

01:57:13.000 Look, you could make all the arguments in the world about DeSantis on policy or whatever.

01:57:17.000 I know Laura disagrees on all those things, but one simple thing matters.

01:57:20.000 His policy is out of the question.

01:57:22.000 His campaign has failed.

01:57:24.000 It, maybe there's a chance it turns around.

01:57:26.000 I don't think it's the zero.

01:57:27.000 I just think it's like 1%.

01:57:29.000 Maybe I'll be wrong, but like his PR people, his communication staff are just doing so apocalyptically bad.

01:57:37.000 If Trump or Vivek gets the nomination for president, do you think it would be better to have Ron as a VP or someone else?

01:57:43.000 It can't be a VP, it's unconstitutional.

01:57:46.000 Oh, that's right, because they live in the same state?

01:57:47.000 Because they live in the same state.

01:57:49.000 But what about RFK, structurally?

01:57:52.000 When you brought that up, I pulled up a news article that said, here's the provision in the Constitution, Article 2, saying, from separate states.

01:57:59.000 And then there's a bunch of other fact checks saying, that's actually incorrect and misinterpreted.

01:58:02.000 So if it were possible, do you think it would be better to have Ron as a VP or, like, RFK?

01:58:06.000 RFK.

01:58:07.000 I would never want Ron as a VP.

01:58:09.000 I don't want him anywhere.

01:58:11.000 I want him gone.

01:58:11.000 I want him to leave Florida.

01:58:13.000 I never want to see him again.

01:58:14.000 20% of Democrat voters like RFK.

01:58:15.000 And a lot of people like Vivek, too.

01:58:16.000 And then practically speaking, outside of like, in terms of the broader political attraction,

01:58:22.000 a cross-party ticket.

01:58:24.000 20% of Democrat voters like RFK.

01:58:27.000 And a lot of people like Vivek too, liberals.

01:58:30.000 But like a Trump-Kennedy ticket, I think, gets you, captures a lot of, even a small

01:58:37.000 That's a unity ticket.

01:58:38.000 You said you like unity?

01:58:39.000 There you go.

01:58:39.000 And you know, I want to give credit to the person that was first to propose that idea.

01:58:42.000 It's Roger Stone.

01:58:44.000 So Roger Stone was the first person to put that into the public sphere about a possible Trump-Kennedy ticket.

01:58:50.000 We have yet to interview Roger Stone.

01:58:52.000 He'd be interesting to interview.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, I know he wants to come on.

01:58:54.000 You guys should have Roger Stone on.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 I think Culture War is probably better.

01:58:57.000 A longer conversation about everything.

01:58:59.000 Or actually, I mean... Like a Friday where he does both, maybe?

01:59:02.000 I've never talked to him before, but I hear a lot about him.

01:59:04.000 Maybe we'll figure that one out.

01:59:05.000 Yeah, you have to have him on.

01:59:06.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:59:07.000 He's an icon.

01:59:08.000 Tim, Adrienne Curry's tweeting at you and I. She says that she wants you to reach out to Joe Rogan for her.

01:59:14.000 And she asked me to tell you, Ian, that she's... She says, can you tell Ian that he rolls too many ones?

01:59:20.000 Don't shoot the messenger.

01:59:21.000 I'm just saying.

01:59:22.000 Thanks for relaying the evidence.

01:59:24.000 Actually, Adrian, can you tell Michael Malice that I've been thinking about him?

01:59:30.000 Let him know.

01:59:30.000 To be honest, though, I mean, Adrian Curry could probably, should probably go on Joe's show.

01:59:38.000 She'd be great.

01:59:38.000 She'd be absolutely wonderful.

01:59:39.000 She's hilarious.

01:59:41.000 Here we go.

01:59:42.000 Amos Moses says, when are you going to have Texas congressional candidate Brandon Herrera, a.k.a.

01:59:46.000 Jesus, on?

01:59:48.000 He is coming on.

01:59:49.000 And I love how people are saying, let's go Brandon.

01:59:51.000 He's already got shirts.

01:59:55.000 Yeah.

01:59:56.000 Bunker Branding.

01:59:57.000 Demolition.

01:59:58.000 Matt from Demolition Nation or whatever.

02:00:01.000 He made shirts for them already.

02:00:02.000 You can get them at Matt's website.

02:00:05.000 All right.

02:00:06.000 You know, before we close the show, I'd like to ask you about your book a little bit.

02:00:09.000 I don't want to override Super Chats, but I do want to know what's in there. 0.89

02:00:12.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:13.000 So, my book, I don't know if people can see it all there, if I should grab it, but it's called... Loomer, do you want me to grab it?

02:00:19.000 Oh, they can see it!

02:00:19.000 Yeah, they can see it.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, so it's an autobiography, but it's also a historical, really, documentation of how we got to this point in this country with the cancel culture and the deplatforming movement.

02:00:30.000 From my perspective, as a canary in the coal mine, I was one of the first people to really be deplatformed and digitally exterminated everywhere until I got my Twitter account back in December.

02:00:40.000 And the book is called Loomerd, How I Became the Most Banned Woman in the World.

02:00:43.000 And I want to remind people that, yeah, I'm on Twitter, but I'm still banned everywhere else.

02:00:47.000 I'm still banned on PayPal, GoFundMe, Venmo, Cash App.

02:00:51.000 I don't think most normies, I don't think, realize exactly how much crap Laura's had to go through.

02:00:58.000 I didn't know, to be honest.

02:00:59.000 Like, your average person doesn't know.

02:01:01.000 Well, and how much I've done, too, right?

02:01:03.000 Because people just say, oh, they read my Wikipedia page, which reads like a serial killer's.

02:01:07.000 Actually, there are serial killers that have better Wikipedia pages than me.

02:01:11.000 The stuff that you've done is all kind of hilarious and awesome.

02:01:15.000 But it's been impactful.

02:01:16.000 It's actually changed the political course of our country.

02:01:21.000 I mean, people don't know that my undercover investigative work in the Clinton campaign was utilized during the debates and actually helped facilitate President Trump getting elected.

02:01:30.000 Or that you were an OG Veritas reporter.

02:01:33.000 That's what I'm saying, when I was undercover at Veritas and the stuff that I did with Pelosi and the stuff that I did, of course, with Twitter, they don't know about the lawsuits I filed because I've been, like I said, silenced for the last several years.

02:01:44.000 A lot of people don't even know that I ran for Congress because my campaign was the only campaign in the nation that I had access to creating social media.

02:01:50.000 So we talked about, people have asked, we gotta go quick because we're over, but what is the key to success?

02:01:56.000 And we often talk about, they did a study and they found perseverance.

02:01:59.000 That you're unwilling to give up.

02:02:01.000 And I just want to stress, all you did was took a cheap little pair of handcuffs.

02:02:08.000 It was handcuffs, right?

02:02:09.000 It was handcuffs, but it wasn't just a pair.

02:02:11.000 I knew that they were going to try to cut the bolt.

02:02:13.000 So I had my handcuffs have a metal bar welded over it so that they couldn't cut it.

02:02:19.000 And so then I also threw the key down the drain, right?

02:02:22.000 On the sidewalk so that they wouldn't be able to use the key.

02:02:24.000 So they had to actually chop it off with that, you know, that jaw, what do they call it?

02:02:28.000 Jaws of life?

02:02:29.000 They had to use jaws of life.

02:02:31.000 There's no barrier to entry to that kind of nonviolent civil disobedience in protest,

02:02:37.000 which generates worldly attention.

02:02:38.000 Yeah, well, that's why I tell people, and I've been saying it for years,

02:02:41.000 and this has been my motto for at least seven years now, civil disobedience is the way forward, okay?

02:02:46.000 You don't have to be violent, but civil disobedience and acts of revolt against authority, peaceful, creative, artistic, public, like I've done, is the way forward because it's provocative and it makes people think.

02:03:02.000 Yes.

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02:03:16.000 Lord, you want to shout anything out?

02:03:18.000 Yeah, so you can subscribe to my Substack and read my reports.

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02:03:46.000 Uh, what else?

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02:03:54.000 Yeah, you know.

02:03:55.000 The internet stuff.

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02:03:56.000 I always forget them, you know.

02:03:58.000 The internet.

02:03:59.000 I'm Ian Cross, and speaking of the internet, you can follow me there at Ian Crossland, pretty much on every social media site that I'm on.

02:04:04.000 And look for my crazy hair, because I'll probably have a picture with that to make sure it's me.

02:04:08.000 I'm the real Ian Crossland.

02:04:09.000 There's other ones out there, but it's me.

02:04:11.000 Good to meet you, Laura.

02:04:12.000 Yeah, really nice meeting you.

02:04:13.000 I really enjoy the show, and I'm a fan, and I really appreciate you inviting me my first time here, and I had a great time.

02:04:19.000 Right on.

02:04:20.000 Thank you.

02:04:21.000 Yeah, my first time, really.

02:04:23.000 You guys can follow me at kellenpdl on x. Also follow Cast Brew Coffee on x. It's the Twitter account for our coffee company.

02:04:32.000 Are you running that?

02:04:33.000 I am not, but it's like two days ago I think it was set up and I was just there so I know about it.

02:04:39.000 We're just basically gonna be posting a bunch of skits.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, it'll be like mini Cast Castle.

02:04:42.000 We're writing a bunch of jokes and we're just laughing about our plans and just I saw some footage today.

02:04:48.000 Did Wesley show you?

02:04:49.000 Yeah.

02:04:50.000 That's good.

02:04:51.000 It's pretty nice.

02:04:53.000 They're masters of special effects.

02:04:55.000 I really appreciate it.

02:04:57.000 Aaron and Wesley, man.

02:05:00.000 It's funny.

02:05:01.000 All right, how are you doing?

02:05:02.000 Yeah, we're good, we're good.

02:05:03.000 All right, everybody.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 18, 2023

Timcast IRL - Trump & Tucker To CRUSH Fox News GOP Debate With LIVE Interview w-Laura Loomer

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