Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Russia Orders INVASION Of Ukraine Sparking WW3 Fears w-Larry Sharpe

00:00:00.000 Vladimir Putin has formally recognized the eastern separatist regions of Ukraine as independent

00:00:12.000 states and has ordered peacekeeping operations within those regions, which is tantamount

00:00:18.000 to an invasion of Ukraine, which is kind of a pointless statement because they already 0.84

00:00:23.000 invaded Crimea.

00:00:24.000 Now this one really gets a lot of people because of course you have people, we have people in chat already saying that these eastern regions, you know, they've already declared their independence though initially even Russia didn't recognize their independence so I don't understand what that argument's all about.

00:00:38.000 Only now is Russia saying they recognize the independence of these regions.

00:00:43.000 Long story short, I'll just tell you my personal perspective before we get, you know, I want to make sure I get into all the news and break down the facts for you.

00:00:48.000 This is going to be a tough one because there's propaganda.

00:00:51.000 We're in fourth and fifth generational warfare.

00:00:51.000 It's warfare.

00:00:53.000 So you're going to be seeing people who are going to try and sway you and convince you of their evidence.

00:00:57.000 This is the nature of war and you got to just figure out what you think is true and who you trust.

00:01:00.000 It's difficult.

00:01:02.000 And I have friends who live in Ukraine, and I've regularly kept up with them and asked them about what's going on, and to put it very simply, for many of these people, they view it as an outright invasion.

00:01:11.000 Of course, there are people in the eastern regions who are sympathetic to Russia, but they don't, you know, based on the people I know who have lived there, who know people from there, they're like, nah, Russia is just, it's a pressure campaign, it's a tactic they use. 0.72

00:01:24.000 They justify the invasion by saying, oh look, they voted for it, then asked for our help, now we can come in, and then they do.

00:01:30.000 I don't think the U.S.

00:01:31.000 will do anything, and I think this is happening because Joe Biden is too weak to do anything about it.

00:01:35.000 I think there's an opportunity for Vladimir Putin.

00:01:37.000 He knows that Joe Biden is probably scared about what his family's involvement with Burisma was, and now what can really be done.

00:01:37.000 He's taking it.

00:01:45.000 But it's also hard to know for sure what's true.

00:01:47.000 Because obviously the corporate press in the United States is pro-war as pro-war can be, and things will likely escalate.

00:01:53.000 And we got a lot of articles that have popped up in the past couple of weeks, as well as today, talking about the fears that this could escalate into a third world war, which probably just hyperbole, Or it could be legitimate because China wants to move in on Taiwan.

00:02:08.000 And this could be the major distraction, a battle, a war in Eastern Europe that gives China the opportunity to move in and take this territory that they claim is theirs to begin with. 0.76

00:02:18.000 I love it when I talk about this stuff.

00:02:20.000 Immediately I get people saying, you're wrong.

00:02:21.000 Russia's not invading.

00:02:23.000 They were voted in.

00:02:24.000 Same thing with Crimea.

00:02:25.000 And then when I talk about China and Taiwan, I get people commenting and they're like, Taiwan is part of China.

00:02:30.000 What are you talking about, Tim?

00:02:31.000 You're making clickbait.

00:02:33.000 Yeah, welcome to warfare.

00:02:33.000 Okay, sure.

00:02:34.000 Everybody's got an opinion.

00:02:35.000 And everyone's got their 50-cent armies to post things that they're going to say one side is right, one side is wrong.

00:02:41.000 The corporate press in the United States is going to scream, Russia's the evil force of the world when it's the bigger threats China.

00:02:46.000 It's complicated.

00:02:47.000 We'll put it mildly.

00:02:48.000 So we'll get into all of that.

00:02:49.000 Obviously, there's a lot to talk about as it pertains to global conflict.

00:02:53.000 And I already know people are going to be like, but Tim, what about civil war?

00:02:57.000 Oh, don't worry.

00:02:58.000 Over the weekend, there was an Antifa shootout with a local homeowner in Portland, which is It's dark stuff.

00:03:07.000 A homeowner basically told Antifa, you're violent extremists, get away from my home.

00:03:11.000 And then a shootout started.

00:03:12.000 Antifa's probably lying about everything. 0.99

00:03:14.000 They've already lied about a ton of it.

00:03:15.000 So it seems like things are getting, you know, pretty serious.

00:03:18.000 Not to mention what's going on in Canada with the freezing of people's bank accounts and a vote to basically make the emergency powers permanent.

00:03:26.000 Man, dark days indeed.

00:03:28.000 Well, joining us to discuss all of this is Larry Sharp.

00:03:33.000 Do you want to introduce yourself, Larry?

00:03:35.000 I'm Larry Sharp, and I know you might say to yourself, man, that guy is handsome.

00:03:39.000 How could it be smart?

00:03:41.000 But I happen to be both.

00:03:42.000 So we're very lucky that I am both.

00:03:43.000 I'm lucky I'm giving New York a second chance at electing me as I'm running for governor of New York on both the Libertarian line and the Forward Party line.

00:03:51.000 And I hope also the Unite line to create an actual coalition against the establishment to make something happen.

00:03:56.000 So I'm hoping that we can make that happen.

00:03:57.000 That's what I'm doing.

00:03:58.000 And I'm here.

00:03:59.000 Thank you for having me.

00:04:00.000 Not to mention, there's a whole bunch of really interesting stuff to talk about as it pertains to domestic policy, taxes, a lot of stuff we were talking about before the show, so we'll get into all that.

00:04:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:07.000 We also got Chris Carr.

00:04:09.000 Executive editor at TimCast.com, happy to be here and join you guys.

00:04:12.000 Forward Party, that's Yang, right?

00:04:14.000 That is absolutely, Andrew Yang.

00:04:15.000 Very cool.

00:04:15.000 Yes, indeed.

00:04:16.000 Yes, I've made a coalition of all the misfit toys.

00:04:21.000 That's very exciting.

00:04:21.000 Andrew Yang is one of my faves.

00:04:23.000 How's it been working with him?

00:04:26.000 Good so far, still new.

00:04:27.000 Let's hope I have some awesome stories to tell.

00:04:29.000 Well, I want to show off this before I get started.

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00:04:32.000 Holy freak, this is cool.

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00:04:35.000 Thank you so much.

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00:04:43.000 Indeed he is.

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00:04:45.000 Very excited to have Larry.

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00:06:45.000 And let's get into that first big story out of Axios.

00:06:48.000 This is crazy news.

00:06:50.000 Putin orders Russian peacekeeping operations in eastern Ukraine.

00:06:55.000 The latest in a decree recognizing the independence of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic, Putin ordered the Russian military to conduct peacekeeping operations in the occupied Ukrainian territories.

00:07:08.000 The separatists don't hold all the territory they claim, so recognition could swiftly evolve into war unless Russia limits its operations to the separatist-held areas.

00:07:17.000 Analysts have also warned that Moscow could also use any attacks on its troops in eastern Ukraine, real or fabricated as a pretext for a broader war.

00:07:26.000 The separatists declared independence in 2014 and have waged a low-scale war against Ukrainian forces since then, with military backing from Moscow.

00:07:34.000 The fighting has escalated since Thursday, with Kiev accusing separatists of persistent shelling across the line of contact.

00:07:41.000 I just want to point out though, I don't believe the corporate press.

00:07:46.000 I don't know exactly what's going on.

00:07:47.000 The US is typically run by establishment political warmongers who will lie to justify invading or triggering a war or whatever.

00:07:56.000 There was a lot of reporting that Russia would seize Kiev and occupy and then hunt down supporters of the president, which is all just propaganda BS.

00:08:06.000 It's a complicated situation.

00:08:07.000 You know, I mentioned in the intro, I have friends down there and they view this as Russia just building up an excuse to seize more territory in eastern Ukraine because they don't want Ukraine becoming a NATO force.

00:08:18.000 They don't want NATO on their doorstep.

00:08:20.000 But I don't know what to believe, to be completely honest.

00:08:22.000 I certainly don't believe Vladimir Putin, but am I supposed to believe Joe Biden?

00:08:26.000 Or is this all just some dirty game?

00:08:29.000 I'll say one more quick thing.

00:08:32.000 As this was heating up, we got reports that at the Ukrainian embassy, they started destroying computers and data.

00:08:38.000 Well, as most of us know, Joe Biden was criminally involved, at least I should say in my opinion, it was criminal, with Burisma and his son, getting $83,000 per month, being on the board of directors for a Ukrainian energy company.

00:08:50.000 And then Joe Biden, quid pro quo, told the president, fire the prosecutor.

00:08:55.000 The prosecutor was investigating this company.

00:08:58.000 And then as soon as he's out, the guy who founds it comes back, It wasn't until Donald Trump came in, the guy fled the country again.

00:09:03.000 So, look, I think it's simple.

00:09:05.000 My view?

00:09:06.000 Joe Biden's panicking.

00:09:08.000 Joe Biden was playing dirty with Ukraine, along with the rest of the Democrats, probably because they want to set up an oil pipeline going through Ukraine, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:09:18.000 When Donald Trump was president, all this disappeared.

00:09:21.000 For four years, there was nothing really going on here.

00:09:23.000 What happened?

00:09:25.000 Then Joe Biden comes back, and all of a sudden, war's breaking out?

00:09:27.000 It's awfully convenient.

00:09:30.000 I feel like this is actually a good thing.

00:09:32.000 I think in the reality what will happen is they'll take over a certain chunk of the country.

00:09:36.000 Russians look good.

00:09:38.000 We look good because we can say we saved Ukraine.

00:09:40.000 There'll be some kind of negotiation.

00:09:42.000 The Norwegians or the Swiss or someone will come in and build some kind of peace program.

00:09:47.000 They'll call it the, you know, Kiev Accords or something.

00:09:50.000 They'll call it something like that.

00:09:51.000 They'll call peace and it'll be settled in a way that is It's acceptable for everybody enough.

00:09:57.000 It's distraction against the disaster the Russian economy is. 0.98

00:10:00.000 It's distraction against the disaster our economy is.

00:10:04.000 So it's good distraction against all those things.

00:10:06.000 And it sets up China for a negotiated deal on Taiwan.

00:10:10.000 So it sets everything up in motion.

00:10:11.000 So I think this is all great in the long run for everybody.

00:10:14.000 Everyone's going to be happy, meaning all the establishment will be happy. 0.96

00:10:18.000 The individual Ukrainians They're gonna be screwed. 1.00

00:10:21.000 If we have to send any troops, we're gonna be screwed. 0.99

00:10:23.000 But the establishment's gonna be just fine.

00:10:25.000 Putin is getting a bunch of, you know, pro-Russian, see, we're Russia, oorah, oorah.

00:10:30.000 I know our country's a disaster, but isn't it great to be Russian? 1.00

00:10:33.000 And the same thing over here.

00:10:35.000 We're not talking about how bad our economy is.

00:10:37.000 It's all Ukraine. 1.00

00:10:37.000 Look at the news. 1.00

00:10:38.000 Yeah.

00:10:38.000 We're not talking about how bad things are here.

00:10:40.000 It's all Ukraine. 1.00

00:10:42.000 So we can all talk about that.

00:10:43.000 Good distraction.

00:10:44.000 Life is good.

00:10:45.000 And we settle it without fighting, actually having a battle.

00:10:48.000 And that sets up China to have some kind of negotiation for Taiwan, which would be a, it'll be a Hong Kong type negotiation for Taiwan.

00:10:54.000 There are a bunch of these articles that keep popping up talking about, what is this one we have?

00:10:59.000 From the Sun, here we go.

00:11:00.000 How Russian invasion of Ukraine may trigger conflict in all corners of the globe.

00:11:03.000 In terrifying World War III, expert warns.

00:11:06.000 This one's from January.

00:11:07.000 There were a couple today.

00:11:09.000 Every week you get a handful of them.

00:11:11.000 And, you know, obviously people are already saying the title we used is, you know, because I mentioned the fears of it.

00:11:17.000 Well, the challenge is, do I act like these articles based on my bias are all fake and just say that no one's really scared about, you know, if Russia moves into eastern Ukraine, will that be the distraction China needs to move in on Taiwan?

00:11:30.000 Will China start using similar tactics on Taiwan?

00:11:33.000 I think that's a legitimate concern.

00:11:35.000 And then if we get spread thin across the board, what's Iran going to do?

00:11:39.000 What's going to happen in Yemen with Saudi Arabia?

00:11:40.000 What's North Korea going to do?

00:11:42.000 So I think there's a possibility there.

00:11:44.000 But I do think it's fair to point out all these big stories that are popping up, like Russia would occupy Kiev.

00:11:49.000 That's insane.

00:11:51.000 That's not going to happen. 0.99

00:11:52.000 And also, the U.S., I really do not believe, maybe this will come back to bite me in the ass, I do not believe the U.S. 0.96

00:11:58.000 will have active troops in eastern Ukraine or in Ukraine fighting with Russians. 0.98

00:12:04.000 The U.S.

00:12:04.000 is gonna wag its finger, and I think it's like you're saying, Larry, I'd be willing to bet that Joe Biden and his people are sitting there and they're like, hey, this Russia stuff is fantastic news for us.

00:12:13.000 Absolutely, yes.

00:12:14.000 Our approval's in the gutter, everyone's mad at us, you've got protests, they're gonna do a D.C.

00:12:18.000 convoy, quick, scream war and point to Russia.

00:12:21.000 Yes, and we'll shake our fists and say, I'm strong.

00:12:24.000 I'm so strong against these Russians. 1.00

00:12:26.000 Putin's a killer. 1.00

00:12:27.000 He can do that very easily. 1.00

00:12:28.000 It's a smart move for him to do that.

00:12:30.000 But in reality, if there are any US troops there, and I doubt there will be, but if there are, it'll only be after they're sure it is a safe settlement.

00:12:37.000 Like a North Korea, South Korea type thing, right?

00:12:39.000 Where we know the odds of actual war are so slim, then we might put troops there, maybe.

00:12:44.000 But I doubt we will.

00:12:45.000 The Germans still want that Russian energy. 0.94

00:12:47.000 Right?

00:12:48.000 And the Germans run Europe, right? 0.98

00:12:50.000 The Germans couldn't win it, you know, in military, but they won it economically. 0.94

00:12:54.000 So they still control Europe and they want that Russian energy. 0.96

00:12:56.000 So they're not going to fight a war over that.

00:12:58.000 Well, actually, I mean, that's the big thing, isn't it?

00:13:00.000 It was the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:13:02.000 Sure.

00:13:02.000 Western, NATO, the US, they wanted to get... I bring it up fairly often because it's significant

00:13:07.000 to everything that's going on. And it's more than just this.

00:13:10.000 I mean, you can get reductive and go beyond why this pipeline mattered. But Qatar was going to 0.60

00:13:15.000 build a pipeline going up through Syria and Turkey. Syria said, no, Russia's an ally of ours, we

00:13:20.000 won't do it. Then conveniently for the US, a civil war erupts in Syria. And then the US is like,

00:13:24.000 well, we got to get rid of Assad now.

00:13:26.000 Oh, it's funny how that guy was blocking your pipeline. And now all of a sudden you oppose him

00:13:30.000 him and you want to go to war there.

00:13:32.000 Obama then basically funds a lot of the really awful stuff, directly or indirectly, that's happening down there.

00:13:37.000 You get Syria collapsing. 0.56

00:13:39.000 Then all of a sudden it moves up into Ukraine, because that's where the Gazprom Russian pipeline goes through.

00:13:44.000 It's about a quarter, I believe, around a quarter of the energy going into Europe.

00:13:47.000 The West wants to displace that, compete, and lower prices.

00:13:51.000 Russia won't let him because Russia's allied with Syria.

00:13:53.000 So now the US, they engage in conflict in Syria.

00:13:56.000 So here, I'll tell you the funny thing.

00:13:58.000 We sit here and you've got the American corporate press going like, Russia's invading Ukraine!

00:14:03.000 And it's like, and what did we do with Syria?

00:14:05.000 That was an ally of Russia.

00:14:07.000 And we were arming rebels.

00:14:09.000 We were calling for Bashar al-Assad to be removed, saying he was all these really awful things.

00:14:12.000 Russia's doing the same thing in Ukraine right now.

00:14:14.000 This is all part of the proxy war over energy.

00:14:16.000 And some of our weapons actually killed Russians.

00:14:20.000 Yeah.

00:14:20.000 Right?

00:14:20.000 So some of the Russians were killed by our weapons.

00:14:23.000 World War III didn't break out.

00:14:24.000 Yeah.

00:14:24.000 Because nobody wants World War III.

00:14:26.000 World War III is bad for business.

00:14:28.000 What they want is small proxy wars.

00:14:30.000 Small proxy wars, really good for business.

00:14:33.000 We learned that after World War II.

00:14:35.000 Small proxy wars, great for business.

00:14:38.000 So we want lots of small proxy wars throughout the world.

00:14:41.000 That works very well for the military-industrial complex.

00:14:43.000 But I would say, any possibility of a World War III...

00:14:47.000 Actually, I'll put it this way.

00:14:48.000 Some have actually chatted with us and said that World War III started a while back.

00:14:52.000 It's just that we're not in that generation of warfare anymore.

00:14:55.000 So now what we're seeing is propaganda, media manipulation, cyber warfare.

00:14:59.000 And I think it's fair to say that if that is modern warfare, we are in World War III.

00:15:04.000 Well, I would call it Cold War II.

00:15:06.000 Let me, if I could, right?

00:15:07.000 We had Cold War I after World War II, which was Soviet Union or Russia as number one, China as union partner.

00:15:15.000 The mad mutual destruction was nuclear, but the battlefield was espionage, right?

00:15:21.000 That was the battlefield during that one.

00:15:22.000 We won that war, right?

00:15:24.000 But of course we had an advantage.

00:15:25.000 We had better espionage.

00:15:26.000 We had more money.

00:15:27.000 We had more nukes.

00:15:28.000 We were ahead.

00:15:29.000 Cold War II started right after because what America does well is win the war, lose the peace, right? 0.58

00:15:34.000 So we lost the peace.

00:15:34.000 So now we have Cold War II.

00:15:37.000 It's reversed.

00:15:37.000 China is now senior partner.

00:15:39.000 Russia is now a junior partner.

00:15:41.000 The mad mutual destruction is cyber, when it was nuclear, and now we're fighting in the markets, and not in espionage.

00:15:48.000 So I think we're in Cold War II, and you're right, we're losing.

00:15:52.000 Can I say we were losing?

00:15:53.000 The cutting off of the bank accounts makes it feel a little more lukewarm.

00:15:56.000 Because in the Cold War, citizens weren't getting screwed over by stuff, really.

00:16:00.000 They were ducking and covering, and the nine-year-olds thinking they were going to protect them from a nuke, living in terror.

00:16:06.000 The shutting off the bank accounts makes it feel kinda hot.

00:16:09.000 It's not hot.

00:16:10.000 Like a hot war would be when bombs are dropping and houses are getting blown up.

00:16:14.000 Maybe.

00:16:15.000 But I think maybe in the future, we bring it up often enough, fourth and fifth generational warfare, hot means something else.

00:16:21.000 I'm afraid of the AI, really.

00:16:22.000 If we're talking about a hot World War III, it would be like people are stuck in the metaverse and then the AI starts dropping bombs.

00:16:27.000 Ultron, dude.

00:16:28.000 Yes, but you gotta remember that the idea of capturing land is nowhere near as valuable as capturing IP.

00:16:36.000 IP is the value now, right?

00:16:38.000 Land is less valuable than it ever was compared to World War II days, right?

00:16:42.000 Now, look, what if the Chinese invaded and captured California? 0.97

00:16:46.000 Do they care?

00:16:47.000 Only if the IP is gone.

00:16:48.000 If the IP is still there, they win.

00:16:50.000 If the IP shifts to Austin or something, what'd they get?

00:16:53.000 They got a bunch of expensive land they have to quell. 0.96

00:16:55.000 That actually sucks. 0.56

00:16:56.000 Yes, that's all they got. 0.98

00:16:58.000 Northern California is pretty good.

00:16:59.000 Southern California is basically drought ridden.

00:17:01.000 Yes.

00:17:02.000 So if they don't get the IP of Disney and of, you know, Silicon Valley, if they don't get the IP, what's the value?

00:17:09.000 So they're trying to capture IP, which China is doing very well.

00:17:12.000 Very, very well.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, Disney.

00:17:14.000 Absolutely on board.

00:17:15.000 I loved it when Disney Plus thanked the Xinjiang security forces for helping them with their movie.

00:17:20.000 And it's like the same security contractors that have, you know, the Uyghurs in concentration camps. 0.98

00:17:25.000 But talk about IP capture.

00:17:26.000 There you go.

00:17:27.000 It's a lot.

00:17:28.000 See, this is the future of war.

00:17:30.000 It's the control of resources, manipulation, propaganda.

00:17:33.000 It's getting LeBron James to come out and defend China.

00:17:37.000 It's getting Mark Cuban.

00:17:38.000 And who was the other guy?

00:17:39.000 Was it Steve Kerr?

00:17:40.000 Was that his name?

00:17:41.000 Yeah, Kerr, and also John Cena did the video, right?

00:17:44.000 John Cena apologizing to China.

00:17:47.000 Steve Kerr is the Golden State Warrior coach.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he came out and he was like, look, we got a lot of problems in America, too.

00:17:52.000 It's like, oh, dude, come on.

00:17:54.000 Sure.

00:17:55.000 But yo, I think what's happening, I don't even want to repeat the things that are happening in Xinjiang. 0.70

00:18:00.000 I mean, that's just nightmarish.

00:18:02.000 What's going on with those people?

00:18:04.000 But then you got, what was her face?

00:18:06.000 That woman on, was it Savannah Guthrie? 0.99

00:18:07.000 Was that who did it?

00:18:09.000 The Olympic opening ceremony with a Uyghur Muslim.

00:18:11.000 So she was like, see, look at that!

00:18:13.000 You know, repudiation.

00:18:14.000 Wow.

00:18:15.000 There's a Uyghur, see? 1.00

00:18:16.000 Everything's fine.

00:18:17.000 Yeah.

00:18:18.000 Direct CCP propaganda.

00:18:19.000 Brought to you by NBC. 0.86

00:18:20.000 What if my best friend is black?

00:18:21.000 How could I be racist? 0.59

00:18:24.000 I'm thinking about World War II and how I would live my whole life like, oh, of course I would support the invasion of Nazi Germany and the, you know, the destruction of Nazi Germany or whatever. 0.65

00:18:34.000 But like, now, today, it's kind of like we're looking at it again.

00:18:37.000 Do you support an invasion?

00:18:38.000 Do you support war?

00:18:39.000 Do you support putting your life on the line and risking everything that we have?

00:18:42.000 In World War II, most Americans didn't, remember?

00:18:45.000 We never declared war on Germany.

00:18:47.000 Germany declared war on us.

00:18:49.000 We didn't care about any of that stuff.

00:18:51.000 We declared war on Japan.

00:18:52.000 Because Japan attacked us first. 0.99

00:18:54.000 Correct!

00:18:54.000 Remember the speech, the day that we'll live in infamy?

00:18:57.000 His words were, I want to declare a state of war against the Empire of Japan. 0.95

00:19:02.000 Hitler declared war on us.

00:19:04.000 We didn't declare war on him.

00:19:05.000 Technically, we were funding the British and the French.

00:19:08.000 Yes.

00:19:08.000 As best we could, the French.

00:19:09.000 To lend least, we were absolutely funding them, but declaration of war?

00:19:12.000 America wasn't concerned about that. 0.95

00:19:13.000 Remember, all wars begin for terrible reasons, but they always end for ethical reasons.

00:19:19.000 Right?

00:19:20.000 So they began because someone bombed us, or let's go get the Germans, but it ends because freedom!

00:19:26.000 That's not how it started.

00:19:28.000 Right? 0.99

00:19:28.000 So wars always end because of something amazing, but they begin because of garbage. 0.99

00:19:32.000 I think.

00:19:33.000 World War I didn't begin to end the empires, but now it was the war to end the empires. 1.00

00:19:40.000 No, it was because people were being stupid in Europe. 0.99

00:19:44.000 That's why it started. 1.00

00:19:44.000 Three cousins couldn't get along with each other? 1.00

00:19:47.000 Three cousins couldn't like each other.

00:19:48.000 That's a good point.

00:19:49.000 At what point, if you have a defensive pact with a country, do you renege on the defensive pact?

00:19:53.000 Or don't have one.

00:19:53.000 I'm not going in.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, you got invaded.

00:19:55.000 Or don't have one.

00:19:57.000 NATO is a defensive pact.

00:19:59.000 And we should not be in it.

00:20:01.000 I'm interested in that path.

00:20:03.000 Wasn't that Trump's position as well?

00:20:04.000 Yes.

00:20:05.000 Well, Trump was better.

00:20:07.000 Trump wanted them to pay more.

00:20:09.000 I think he didn't go far enough.

00:20:11.000 I would have removed ourselves out of NATO completely.

00:20:13.000 Why are we in?

00:20:14.000 NATO was a pact to stop the Soviet Union.

00:20:17.000 When the Soviet Union fell, we should have removed ourselves from NATO.

00:20:21.000 All NATO has done is started problems for us.

00:20:22.000 I mean, you know, one thing I was saying earlier is why should any American care about what's happening on the eastern borders of Ukraine when our southern border is not a priority for this president or this administration?

00:20:33.000 The idea that they would be sending U.S.

00:20:35.000 troops to Eastern Europe for some threat of Russia, but not be willing to secure our own border is laughable.

00:20:40.000 Well, there's two parts I want to bring up here.

00:20:43.000 I do care.

00:20:44.000 And we should care.

00:20:46.000 It doesn't mean we should send young Marine soldiers in Seattle to die.

00:20:49.000 Right?

00:20:50.000 And it's not black and white in my view.

00:20:52.000 I think we can use the bully pulpit.

00:20:53.000 We can talk about it.

00:20:54.000 We can try to make it better.

00:20:55.000 We can get the American people to care.

00:20:57.000 We can do that.

00:20:58.000 And assist.

00:20:59.000 But I don't want to... Look, I was a Marine.

00:21:03.000 And when I was a Marine, would I have left my legs in the streets of Manhattan?

00:21:07.000 I'm a New Yorker.

00:21:07.000 Would I have done that?

00:21:08.000 Of course I would.

00:21:08.000 I'd do it today.

00:21:09.000 Right?

00:21:09.000 If I thought the Chinese were coming across the border or something, I'd leave my legs in the streets of Manhattan today.

00:21:13.000 And I'm an old man now.

00:21:14.000 And I would still do it.

00:21:15.000 But do I want to send my kids, who my kids are now 17 years old, do I want to send my children to go fight and die in Ukraine? 0.85

00:21:22.000 No.

00:21:22.000 I don't.

00:21:24.000 But do I care?

00:21:25.000 Of course I care.

00:21:25.000 I don't want them to have trouble.

00:21:27.000 I don't want them to be bombed.

00:21:29.000 I'm a human being.

00:21:29.000 I have compassion.

00:21:30.000 I don't want them to die.

00:21:31.000 But it doesn't mean I want to send my children to die.

00:21:34.000 What I might want to do is try to help them defend themselves.

00:21:36.000 Maybe.

00:21:36.000 I'm okay with that.

00:21:37.000 Right?

00:21:37.000 Or talk about it or whatever the case may be.

00:21:39.000 But people have the right to fight their own wars and to create their own governments.

00:21:43.000 We had a civil war.

00:21:45.000 We had a revolutionary war.

00:21:46.000 That's how we started our country.

00:21:48.000 We won't let others do it.

00:21:49.000 We were under the yoke of the British Empire for, what, 100 years?

00:21:53.000 And then we decided that the best way for us to become independent was war. 0.51

00:21:56.000 The Canadians thought, nah, we'll do it peace.

00:21:59.000 Both are the right answer.

00:22:01.000 Each nation decides on its own.

00:22:02.000 Then we had to have a civil war.

00:22:04.000 The Canadians didn't have to have one. 0.84

00:22:05.000 That's fine.

00:22:06.000 Both are the right answer.

00:22:07.000 Apparently, we were hanging out with Stephen Marsh.

00:22:11.000 He wrote a book on civil war.

00:22:12.000 And he was mentioning that Canada actually had some very serious periods of instability and war.

00:22:17.000 It was in 82 and 95.

00:22:19.000 So, you know, it's not all perfect.

00:22:22.000 No nation is.

00:22:22.000 Yeah.

00:22:23.000 No nation is.

00:22:24.000 If you've got to put people together, they're going to want to fight each other.

00:22:27.000 It's how it works.

00:22:28.000 Now, hopefully we can do it peacefully through politics and through talking.

00:22:31.000 That's the best way of doing it.

00:22:33.000 And that's what Canada decided.

00:22:34.000 And that's good.

00:22:35.000 We didn't.

00:22:36.000 I got a feeling in Ukraine that the Russian is going to send peacekeepers in and then Americans are going to be funding the rebels for the next 20 years again and arming them.

00:22:45.000 And then the rebels are going to become the villains when we're done with it.

00:22:48.000 You know, I just want to say, man, Ukraine is amazing.

00:22:53.000 Beautiful country.

00:22:55.000 I got to hang out in Kiev for several months.

00:22:58.000 Amazing food, poverty wages, good people, beautiful cities, and absolutely horrible, you know, what we're seeing here, man.

00:23:07.000 It was kind of crazy to see that this country, what was it, Luke was saying it was like the Afghanistan of Europe.

00:23:13.000 I went for a walk when I was in Kiev with some co-workers and a friend.

00:23:18.000 We were going to get food, and you can see buildings that still have bullet holes from World War II, I think it was, or whatever.

00:23:25.000 When there was artillery firing, they just never repaired some of these.

00:23:30.000 Inside it's fine, but outside you can see the scars of war.

00:23:33.000 And it's kind of sad because these people are, you know, the people I met and hung out with are just good, hardworking people who want to just do their thing.

00:23:41.000 But I think sometimes they want to keep their own purpose, right?

00:23:43.000 They don't want you to forget, right?

00:23:45.000 There are aspects of if you go to Germany, parts of where the Berlin Wall used to be.

00:23:49.000 Yeah.

00:23:50.000 They keep that stuff there so you don't forget, right?

00:23:53.000 They don't want you to forget what happened.

00:23:55.000 So a lot of times people will purposely say, well, I could fix that wall, but No, you should look and go, oh, right, war is bad.

00:24:03.000 Let's not do that.

00:24:03.000 Well, I love it then when they start tearing down the statues in the U.S.

00:24:08.000 And they're saying like, there's a meme where it's like, well, what about moving the statues of the Nazis in Germany to museums?

00:24:15.000 Oh, wait, there aren't any, because they destroyed all.

00:24:17.000 It's like, but as you mentioned, there's parts of the Berlin Wall.

00:24:19.000 There are still remnants.

00:24:21.000 And, you know, look, I understand if you've got a statue venerating the Confederacy or some of these people like the Klan or something.

00:24:28.000 Okay, I get we don't want those statues up in the middle of a park or something, but you put them in a museum if you're going to remove them.

00:24:34.000 And you do it by vote.

00:24:35.000 You do it by community organization.

00:24:36.000 You say, how many of us agree on this? 0.80

00:24:38.000 The problem is you get these lunatics who come in with ropes and just rip them down against, that's anti-democratic. 0.97

00:24:44.000 It's fascistic. 0.98

00:24:44.000 It's authoritarian. 0.98

00:24:46.000 As much as I'm not a fan of the statues either, I think it's important if we don't put up a plaque or have some remembrance of what that was and why it was there, you're doomed to repeat your history.

00:24:55.000 I like the idea of just auctioning them all off.

00:24:58.000 So auction them off.

00:24:59.000 Raise money for the state, right?

00:25:01.000 Which you need money anyway, right?

00:25:02.000 Auction them all off.

00:25:03.000 And then if you're some rich guy who cares about the heritage, which is often and common in most states in this world, right?

00:25:09.000 The rich guys will spend 10% of the time, they will buy it, they'll move and they'll put it into their... and they'll donate it to the museum.

00:25:15.000 But if you're some guy who really hates some cabinet general, and you want to tear a statue down, great!

00:25:20.000 Get the people together, buy the statue and... 1.00

00:25:22.000 Have a ceremony on your front lawn and destroy the damn thing. 1.00

00:25:24.000 Look at this libertarian guy with a free market solution. 1.00

00:25:26.000 You got it every time.

00:25:28.000 Guilty as charged.

00:25:30.000 Let's move on to what's happening in the United States because we got this story.

00:25:33.000 I don't know how to feel about this.

00:25:37.000 Let me read the title.

00:25:38.000 The Guardian.

00:25:39.000 One dead and five wounded in Portland shooting during protest in park.

00:25:43.000 Authorities describe confrontation in Normandale Park between a homeowner and participants in police violence protest.

00:25:50.000 I don't know how to feel about it, because the conflict itself, the fighting, the shooting, of course, is just outright bad.

00:25:58.000 Regular people defying Antifa far leftists and saying, get out of my neighborhood, is people waking up to the crisis and refusing to, you know, refusing and rejecting it.

00:26:09.000 But it leads to this.

00:26:10.000 And this is what's scary, because we don't, we don't, we don't want shooters on our streets.

00:26:13.000 You know, the people, the people who, they post stuff, You know, there's that joke, F around and find out.

00:26:19.000 And I'm like, man, you really don't want to find out no matter who you are.

00:26:22.000 You might wear the shirt.

00:26:23.000 You might wear the hat.

00:26:23.000 We joking.

00:26:24.000 We have a joke shirt that says, step on snack and find out.

00:26:26.000 The reality is, I assure you, you don't want to find out.

00:26:30.000 You know, the people who think that, you know, they would get into a conflict, have a good time of it.

00:26:34.000 You don't want to be worried about your kids because you might think you're tough.

00:26:37.000 You might think you're brave, but what about when it's your kid who's at home and these people are fighting in the streets?

00:26:42.000 So stories like this, man, I like the idea that regular people are saying no to the far left.

00:26:46.000 I don't like the idea that it's resulting in this, but I feel like this may be inevitable.

00:26:49.000 So here's the story, just to give you a quick summary.

00:26:52.000 These Antifa far leftists are doing their marches as they normally do.

00:26:55.000 They were armed, reportedly, according to them and some, you know, other witnesses, I suppose, but I don't trust them. 0.65

00:27:02.000 So what they said was, this guy comes up to him screaming at him, saying they're terrorists and they're the cause of all the violence, and that if they go near his house, he will shoot them.

00:27:11.000 And then abruptly open-fired, shooting six people.

00:27:16.000 One of them died, five are injured, and then they critically injured him.

00:27:20.000 They then go on to claim to the press they were unarmed, yet this guy's critically wounded.

00:27:25.000 They claim that he just attacked them.

00:27:27.000 I don't believe any of it.

00:27:28.000 If I were to make, you know, my assessment based off what I know about the far-left extremists, these Antifa types, I'd say that, you know, look, there's a video of these guys pulling a guy out of his truck and beating him.

00:27:38.000 They were armed with rifles.

00:27:40.000 They were blocking an intersection.

00:27:42.000 The guy was honking at him to get out of the way.

00:27:44.000 Apparently the guy saw their guns, showed him that he was strapped.

00:27:47.000 They pointed weapons at him.

00:27:48.000 He said, tried.

00:27:49.000 He pulled his gun, pointed at them.

00:27:51.000 Then they grabbed him and started beating him.

00:27:53.000 How much you want to bet something similar happened this time?

00:27:55.000 The only thing is, this time the guy was like, I ain't playing any games.

00:27:58.000 And that woman is dead. 0.85

00:27:59.000 And this guy might die as well.

00:28:01.000 So this kind of stuff gets scary, man, but I don't know what your thoughts on this are, Larry, because you mentioned you read Stephen Marsh's book on Civil War.

00:28:09.000 What do you think about this?

00:28:10.000 Where do you think this is all going?

00:28:12.000 If we don't create someone who will step up and say, look, what you just said, right?

00:28:17.000 Your thought process is exactly correct.

00:28:20.000 We need people to think how you're thinking.

00:28:21.000 This is... I don't want to eff around and find out, right?

00:28:24.000 I don't want to find out.

00:28:25.000 And this is an example of someone who did, and it hurt everybody, right?

00:28:28.000 Nobody won in this, right?

00:28:30.000 A bunch of people went to the hospital.

00:28:32.000 Somebody died.

00:28:33.000 This is lose-lose.

00:28:34.000 Someone's got to step up and go, wait a minute.

00:28:36.000 Okay, I get you're mad. 0.99

00:28:38.000 Let's talk this damn thing out. 0.99

00:28:39.000 And that's an important piece. 0.99

00:28:41.000 And I hope we begin to do that.

00:28:42.000 And the only way we do that is by having someone, like what you're talking about, say, hey, can we not fight?

00:28:48.000 Can we not do that?

00:28:49.000 If I was the mayor of the town, And I've got Antifa out or BLM out or January 6th people, whatever I got.

00:28:56.000 Or I'm Trudeau and I got truckers.

00:28:59.000 I don't walk away.

00:29:00.000 I literally go there.

00:29:03.000 I physically go there and say, I hear you.

00:29:05.000 You got an issue or a problem or concern.

00:29:08.000 I'm going to give you a time and a place where we can talk about this and let's try to make this happen.

00:29:12.000 You start doing that more and more over time.

00:29:15.000 The damage has been done for so long it isn't fixed by one guy doing one thing.

00:29:21.000 It needs multiple people doing this often.

00:29:23.000 This should be the norm.

00:29:25.000 We should make protest, anger, When they do it, we respond with, okay, what's wrong, versus, I will hammer you.

00:29:35.000 When you respond with, I will hammer you, they become desperate.

00:29:38.000 Desperate people do desperate things.

00:29:41.000 It's just human nature.

00:29:43.000 Jefferson say, I'm gonna get it wrong, when peaceful protest is impossible, violent revolution is inevitable.

00:29:49.000 Did I get that right?

00:29:50.000 I think so, yeah.

00:29:50.000 Was it Kennedy?

00:29:51.000 I thought that was Jefferson.

00:29:53.000 Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

00:29:56.000 Thank you.

00:29:57.000 There we go.

00:29:58.000 Thank you for doing it right.

00:29:58.000 Yes.

00:29:59.000 But I don't know.

00:30:00.000 Look up who said it because, you know, we'll make sure.

00:30:02.000 But so I want to make it possible.

00:30:04.000 Kennedy.

00:30:05.000 I want to go out of my way.

00:30:06.000 I want to make it possible.

00:30:08.000 And executives have to do this.

00:30:09.000 It must be mayors, governors, county executives.

00:30:13.000 As a nation, we don't pay attention to congressmen or senators.

00:30:16.000 We don't.

00:30:17.000 We only pay attention to executives.

00:30:18.000 They have to be the ones doing this.

00:30:20.000 But I don't want to now bring up the pessimism here.

00:30:25.000 When we were talking with Stephen, you know, the point I made, he said something similar.

00:30:28.000 He's like, when will you and your country realize you're tearing each other apart and you need to come together?

00:30:33.000 And I said to him, you know, you're Canadian, right?

00:30:35.000 And he says, yes.

00:30:36.000 I'm like, you, you like your socialized healthcare.

00:30:38.000 And he said, right.

00:30:38.000 I said, okay, abolish it, go full private free market.

00:30:42.000 And we got peace.

00:30:44.000 And he said, point taken.

00:30:46.000 Right.

00:30:46.000 He's like, I won't give that up ever for anything.

00:30:49.000 And so for me, you know, these, these individuals, for instance, these Antifa types, They are consistently violent.

00:30:56.000 They are consistently extreme.

00:30:58.000 And they are of the political faction that, for instance, in California tried to repeal their civil rights legislation from their own constitution.

00:31:06.000 And they nearly succeeded in doing so.

00:31:08.000 When that comes up, I just gotta say I'm sorry.

00:31:12.000 There's no circumstance in which I negotiate with that person and say, we'll take away some of the civil rights protection.

00:31:17.000 It's not gonna happen.

00:31:17.000 I felt like they didn't exist until 2016, Antifa.

00:31:20.000 I never even heard of it until 2015-16.

00:31:22.000 They did.

00:31:23.000 They were at Occupy Wall Street.

00:31:25.000 We just called it, you know, the black block element. 0.98

00:31:28.000 It seems like it's a response to Hillary Clinton's DNC screwing over Bernie Sanders and ripping any hope from that party.

00:31:34.000 And then the Federal Reserve printing insane amounts of money and devaluing the currency.

00:31:38.000 These people have no hope.

00:31:39.000 And now they're out there with COVID lockdown, smashing stuff up because they can finally be outside.

00:31:43.000 But if we focus on the problems like that, I think that we can quell the violence and calm people down.

00:31:49.000 You're right, Ian.

00:31:50.000 What happens with these people is they're despondent, dejected, they're angry, they feel there's no path forward.

00:31:56.000 And then along comes a demagogue who says, your answer is communism.

00:32:00.000 They adopt it.

00:32:01.000 And then we now have an expansive force of people who have identified the problem.

00:32:06.000 They've identified a certain thing as the problem that's not really their problem.

00:32:11.000 They unfortunately will often side with the very establishment that has caused them these problems and led them down this path.

00:32:21.000 Like you mentioned, you know, Hillary Clinton and all that stuff. 0.81

00:32:23.000 Yeah, they'll come out and be like, we hate the Democrats!

00:32:26.000 And then you'll get someone like ContraPoints, for instance, saying, but you have to vote for Joe Biden.

00:32:30.000 I'm like, look, my thought on Donald Trump for 2020 was I can choose the ivory tower elites who gutted this country or the bull rampaging through the ivory tower.

00:32:41.000 I'll take the bull.

00:32:42.000 You know, let him run around and kick some stuff over for once and otherwise what?

00:32:46.000 We go back to square one?

00:32:47.000 Yeah, but you brought up a very valid point here.

00:32:50.000 People always think, you know, how bad does that have to get before people revolt?

00:32:56.000 There's no answer to that, because people will stay in horrible situations forever.

00:32:59.000 It's a phenomenon called learned helplessness.

00:33:02.000 What they require is hope, was what you just said.

00:33:05.000 And some demagogue gives hope, right?

00:33:06.000 And the best example I can give you is Russia, 1917.

00:33:09.000 Peasants forever, 300 years, no real revolts.

00:33:12.000 I mean, here or there are some sporadic revolts, but no real revolts for 300 years.

00:33:16.000 Here comes Lenin.

00:33:17.000 Hey, how about this communism thing?

00:33:19.000 And all they knew was, what can't be worse than this, right?

00:33:23.000 Sadly, they were wrong, it was.

00:33:24.000 But they didn't know that.

00:33:25.000 They had hope.

00:33:26.000 And the hope was, oh, this guy, he's telling us something.

00:33:29.000 It's not what we got now. 0.98

00:33:30.000 We know what we got now sucks. 0.89

00:33:32.000 And we've been sitting here for 300 years. 0.94

00:33:33.000 Okay, let's try this communism thing.

00:33:36.000 And it was basically the same thing for them.

00:33:37.000 Different name, though.

00:33:38.000 And nicer flags.

00:33:40.000 So there was some benefit, I guess, to it.

00:33:42.000 But that's about it.

00:33:43.000 Maybe some emotional satisfaction.

00:33:44.000 There was some of that, sure.

00:33:46.000 Absolutely.

00:33:46.000 So you get that.

00:33:47.000 I think it happens here, too.

00:33:49.000 And if two sides are fighting, there has to be some hope.

00:33:53.000 And that's the third party thing.

00:33:55.000 The reason why I think, and I am blatantly biased.

00:33:57.000 I know I'm biased.

00:33:59.000 The Libertarian Party, I think the liberty movement is the answer because it's the only movement where you don't have to Convert.

00:34:07.000 You can be as liberal or as conservative as you want to be.

00:34:11.000 Just don't force your view on others.

00:34:13.000 You want to have a commune?

00:34:15.000 Good!

00:34:15.000 Have your commune over there.

00:34:17.000 Just make sure government isn't paying for it.

00:34:18.000 We'll make government smaller.

00:34:20.000 Do your commune and you'll be fine.

00:34:22.000 You want to have more free market?

00:34:23.000 We can have that too.

00:34:24.000 We can have all of those things if we change the environment.

00:34:28.000 Right now we can't change the environment.

00:34:30.000 The reason why people get so angry is because they realize this.

00:34:33.000 If the other guy wins, he or she will enforce their will upon me.

00:34:39.000 Which means I must take lesser to evils.

00:34:41.000 But, I mean, some of these people are authoritarians.

00:34:45.000 Yes.

00:34:46.000 But the people aren't authoritarians.

00:34:48.000 I don't agree.

00:34:49.000 The leadership are.

00:34:50.000 What people want is someone who will save them or make them feel better, make their lives better, solve their problems.

00:34:56.000 Now, you might say to yourself, but Larry, they're voting for, you know, authoritarians.

00:35:01.000 People don't want freedom.

00:35:03.000 I don't mean to be cruel.

00:35:04.000 People want happiness.

00:35:06.000 People want happiness, not freedom.

00:35:09.000 If they believe freedom will get them happiness, they'll vote for freedom.

00:35:12.000 If they think some dictator will get them happiness, they'll vote for a dictator.

00:35:16.000 They will vote for whatever they believe will get them happiness.

00:35:19.000 Our job in the liberty movement is to show them that freedom is the answer, so they vote for it.

00:35:23.000 I completely agree, but I do think there are authoritarians who enjoy being authoritarian.

00:35:28.000 True, also.

00:35:29.000 And you know, man, this story I told before, we had a funny update on it, and it's a good example.

00:35:34.000 When I went to a sushi restaurant with my girlfriend and we walk in, it's very small.

00:35:39.000 The sushi restaurant is maybe like 30 feet by 30 feet, maybe.

00:35:44.000 Everyone's sitting down.

00:35:45.000 No one's wearing a mask, but there's a mask mandate.

00:35:47.000 So we walk in and the guy grabs a couple of menus and he goes, you need to wear masks.

00:35:51.000 And then I went, oh, nobody's wearing any masks.

00:35:54.000 And he was like, oh, but you have to wear it.

00:35:56.000 And I was like, I don't understand.

00:35:58.000 Like nobody's wearing masks.

00:35:59.000 Well, they're sitting down and eating.

00:36:00.000 And I said, okay, the table was literally about six, seven feet in front of us.

00:36:04.000 I was like, we'll sit right there and then we'll eat.

00:36:06.000 And he goes, okay, but if you get up, you have to wear a mask.

00:36:09.000 So I'm like, yeah, no problem.

00:36:10.000 He hands me and my girlfriend a mask and I say, okay, we're literally three seconds from sitting down when a person at the counter goes, put the mask on. 0.55

00:36:18.000 And I was like, I'm just going to sit down literally right here.

00:36:21.000 And they were like, no, put the mask on.

00:36:23.000 And I said, are you serious?

00:36:25.000 And all of the staff simultaneously went, yes!

00:36:28.000 Here's the funny thing about it.

00:36:29.000 We got an update.

00:36:31.000 This mask mandate was in Frederick County, and it went into effect, I believe, just after New Year's in January.

00:36:38.000 Now they've rescinded the mask mandate, abruptly, about a month later.

00:36:43.000 Why?

00:36:44.000 Oh, well, cases are down.

00:36:45.000 In a month?

00:36:45.000 What?

00:36:46.000 You enact it and then repeal it?

00:36:47.000 Like, instantly.

00:36:49.000 The people there just do as they're told.

00:36:52.000 They have no interest in thinking about the problem, thinking about the policy, or thinking about how psychotic it was they were doing this.

00:36:58.000 The only thing in their mind was, whether they like it or not, was adhere to the authority or get out.

00:37:03.000 And so we did.

00:37:04.000 So when you have, I feel like the culture war and the crisis we're facing is, you know, types like Antifa, for instance, that are willing to go around with rifles and tell people you can't drive down this road anymore, chanting whose streets are our streets, forcing people off of public property.

00:37:19.000 They want to use power against other people.

00:37:23.000 I don't.

00:37:24.000 I'd kind of like to mind my own business, which is why we're in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of chickens.

00:37:27.000 Get away from everybody else, leave me alone, right?

00:37:29.000 So I love the Liberty Movement stuff, but I do feel like, you know, the question that came up with Stephen was, these people won't... they want to rule over you.

00:37:40.000 They want to.

00:37:41.000 And so if you take the approach of, if only you just left me alone, they'll say, I will, and then they'll still try to impose their will on you.

00:37:48.000 I suppose the quote is, when I am weak, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles.

00:37:54.000 When I am strong, I deny you freedom because that's according to mine.

00:37:56.000 And that's what we fear with these types of groups.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, what I would argue is... I'm sorry.

00:38:00.000 I'm just gonna ask, like, what is the libertarian approach to a mob that is equally authoritarian and unreasonable?

00:38:06.000 Yep.

00:38:07.000 Like, what's the approach to that?

00:38:08.000 So, let me cover two pieces if I could.

00:38:10.000 The first one is, I think what people want more than anything, this is universal, is purpose.

00:38:16.000 Purpose is critical.

00:38:18.000 So when I don't have purpose, when I feel without power, when I feel like I don't have anything to do, and all of a sudden the government says, your purpose is to make sure people wear marshmallows on their heads.

00:38:28.000 You will go out of your way to make sure people are wearing marshmallows on their head.

00:38:32.000 You won't care why.

00:38:33.000 You won't care what they're doing.

00:38:34.000 Just, I have purpose and I have power.

00:38:36.000 I'm going to make sure you put marshmallows on your head. 1.00

00:38:39.000 So I think that's the real issue. If we give them other forms of purpose, they'll go there.

00:38:43.000 People want to feel useful. People want to feel important.

00:38:46.000 People want to feel empowered. People want purpose. The problem is we've shut people down for two

00:38:51.000 years, sucked away their purpose for two years, and the only thing they have is marching in

00:38:56.000 the streets.

00:38:57.000 I mean, there weren't this many activists before COVID.

00:39:00.000 Why?

00:39:00.000 They had to be at work at nine o'clock in the morning.

00:39:02.000 That was their purpose.

00:39:03.000 Right.

00:39:03.000 Well, now you don't got to go to work anymore.

00:39:05.000 What am I doing?

00:39:06.000 Oh, Janie's yelling about Antifa.

00:39:08.000 What's Antifa?

00:39:09.000 I don't know.

00:39:09.000 Let's go!

00:39:10.000 And they're doing it, right?

00:39:12.000 Oh, we get to have guns?

00:39:13.000 Oh my God.

00:39:14.000 Now we're all powerful.

00:39:15.000 So again, there are leaders.

00:39:18.000 But the perfect storm was shutting everything down and creating a bunch of young men, particularly, but also young women who had no purpose. 0.97

00:39:25.000 So they will go do whatever is required.

00:39:27.000 My goal is to create more purpose for more people.

00:39:30.000 Less of them will be in the streets.

00:39:32.000 Less of them will be trying to impose their will because they have other things to do.

00:39:37.000 That's the thing.

00:39:38.000 I'm never going to stop the authoritarian.

00:39:41.000 Can I lessen them?

00:39:42.000 Yes.

00:39:43.000 Can I make their recruitment a whole lot harder?

00:39:45.000 Yes.

00:39:46.000 Bad people are bad people, but they're nothing without armies.

00:39:50.000 So if I shut their recruitment down, I make everything better.

00:39:54.000 But how do you do that, right?

00:39:55.000 And so I'll throw it back to this, you know, the story I was telling, right?

00:39:59.000 When you have people who are in a, I mean, look, Frederick, Maryland is not the biggest city in the country. 0.97

00:40:04.000 It's moderately sized.

00:40:05.000 It's about an hour or so outside of D.C.

00:40:08.000 No one showed up to tell these people, do as you're told or else.

00:40:12.000 It was just all of a sudden, like, an official announcement went out.

00:40:15.000 Everyone heard about the official announcement.

00:40:18.000 So they all put flyers in their doors and said, OK, that's it.

00:40:21.000 We're just going to do it now because I heard it through the grapevine.

00:40:24.000 And that's not even about recruiting.

00:40:26.000 That's just when the state decrees it, everyone just says, OK.

00:40:30.000 But what if all those people actually had careers and jobs and families they were working on right now?

00:40:35.000 They wouldn't even have noticed.

00:40:36.000 Well, no, I mean, this is a business, right?

00:40:39.000 Everyone's here working at their job, and all of a sudden they're told by someone else, oh, they did a mask mandate, so you don't want to get in trouble, better do as you're told, and they all say, okay.

00:40:47.000 But you just put the point, you don't want to get in trouble.

00:40:49.000 Yep.

00:40:49.000 Right?

00:40:49.000 Once you make the second piece, which is no opportunities.

00:40:53.000 So when I have limited opportunities, and my only opportunity is just to sell water, I will do anything to sell water.

00:41:00.000 Because if I lose that opportunity, I got nothing.

00:41:04.000 So if I think my only chance is really this job that I have, I will do whatever it takes to keep this job.

00:41:10.000 If that means I gotta yell at you, I'm yelling at you.

00:41:12.000 If I gotta throw you out physically, I'll do it because I want that job.

00:41:16.000 So I'm saying the environment is the issue.

00:41:17.000 What I don't want to do is punish the player.

00:41:21.000 What I want to do is change the game.

00:41:23.000 Right?

00:41:24.000 People tend to react to their environments.

00:41:26.000 And the more we have the right environment, the less people whack badly.

00:41:30.000 So that's what I want.

00:41:31.000 So I'm sorry to answer your question.

00:41:32.000 How do you handle a mob?

00:41:34.000 Right?

00:41:35.000 Remember in a mob, the person who runs the mob is the guy or gal who yells loudest.

00:41:40.000 That's who controls the mob. 0.93

00:41:41.000 So you've got to be over there and you've got to be able to talk to that leader and get them to either acquiesce or look weak or stop or agree with you or in some way, shape or form to the group goes, Oh, you know what?

00:41:54.000 Maybe I should be watching Netflix instead of being here.

00:41:57.000 I want to tell you a story real quick that proves your point about whoever controls the mob, the person who yells the loudest is the person who controls the mob, and it's literal.

00:42:07.000 It's absolute literal.

00:42:08.000 So during Occupy Wall Street, there was this very funny moment where everybody shows up to defend the park.

00:42:14.000 Rumors of a police raid were coming.

00:42:15.000 Everyone shows up in the early hours of the morning, and there's a couple thousand people there at Zuccotti Park in Occupy.

00:42:21.000 Some guy's standing up on this ledge, because the park slopes downhill, so there's a part where you're like a five-foot ledge.

00:42:27.000 And he does the mic check, mic check, and then everyone yells, and he goes, uh, should we, uh, maybe go march?

00:42:33.000 And then everyone mutters and looks around.

00:42:35.000 Nothing happens.

00:42:36.000 Then some woman goes, mic check! 1.00

00:42:38.000 And then they all yell, mic check!

00:42:39.000 I say, I say, we go march!

00:42:44.000 And then everyone goes, wah!

00:42:45.000 And they all just start following her.

00:42:47.000 That was just, it was an amazing thing to watch.

00:42:49.000 I'm like, the guy asked if you wanted to do it and no one knew, when the lady just screamed,

00:42:54.000 everyone just started marching.

00:42:56.000 Yes.

00:42:57.000 Absolutely magical that people just, hey, if you yelled it, I'll do it.

00:43:00.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:43:01.000 The issue is there's a book called The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi.

00:43:06.000 Yes.

00:43:07.000 Excellent book.

00:43:07.000 One of my favorite books.

00:43:08.000 A book on sword fighting by the greatest swordsman in Japan, a real person.

00:43:13.000 It's actually mistranslated.

00:43:14.000 It's supposed to be The Book of Five Scrolls, but they messed up the ring you use to put the scroll in, so they messed up in translating it.

00:43:20.000 So it's actually The Book of Five Scrolls, and in the book he mentions the idea of fighting multiple enemies, right?

00:43:25.000 And he talks about the idea of if you have a lot of enemies in front of you, don't be afraid.

00:43:29.000 Drop the leader, the rest will run.

00:43:32.000 That's this entire piece.

00:43:33.000 Now, I take that not literal.

00:43:35.000 I take that as control the leader.

00:43:37.000 I use the Lincoln analogy.

00:43:39.000 If I make my enemy my friend, haven't I destroyed my enemy?

00:43:43.000 So I don't have to kill the leader.

00:43:44.000 I have to make the leader my friend.

00:43:46.000 I make the leader my friend, the mob goes away.

00:43:48.000 The same thing.

00:43:48.000 Take out the leader, the rest disperse.

00:43:50.000 I'd rather not enslave people, though.

00:43:52.000 That's correct.

00:43:52.000 Correct.

00:43:52.000 Oh, the Incan one.

00:43:53.000 Okay, yes.

00:43:53.000 Oh, yes.

00:43:53.000 people though. They took, I think it was the Spanish, took the empire hostage, the emperor hostage.

00:43:57.000 That's correct. And they basically kept them as like a house servant for a month or so and they

00:44:01.000 controlled the empire. It wasn't Montezuma, it was the Incan.

00:44:03.000 Oh the Incan one, oh yes. And they controlled the Incan empire after that and then they killed 0.92

00:44:08.000 them quietly. Yep. But yeah that's how You take the leader.

00:44:11.000 Exactly right.

00:44:11.000 In battle, if you cut down the leader, the troops don't know what to do.

00:44:14.000 This is old battle too, so modern age might... No, this is new battle.

00:44:17.000 This is why the Marine Corps always has rules in the Marine Corps.

00:44:20.000 If you ever see the Marines, we have a blood stripe, right?

00:44:23.000 We are the only service that has a red stripe in our dress uniform.

00:44:28.000 That blood stripe comes from the Battle of Chapultepec.

00:44:31.000 Is that right?

00:44:32.000 I think that's right.

00:44:34.000 Is that right?

00:44:35.000 One of the battles in the Mexican War, I think that was the right one, where the officers were killed and the non-commissioned officers took over and still captured the city anyway. 0.67

00:44:43.000 And from that, only E-4s and above get that red blood stripe.

00:44:47.000 The Marine Corps teaches you that when the captain's shot, the hill still must be taken.

00:44:53.000 Which is so when leaders get killed, Marines still step up and do the job.

00:44:57.000 This is what leadership is about.

00:44:58.000 Good leadership is about creating more leaders.

00:45:00.000 Which is why often cults of personality fail.

00:45:03.000 Because once that person is gone, there's no more leaders there.

00:45:06.000 It's all gone.

00:45:07.000 If you create a movement, a real movement, you create more leaders around you.

00:45:11.000 So one guy drops, the rest pop up, and the hill is still taken.

00:45:14.000 Right, it's not that we don't need a leader, it's that we need lots of them.

00:45:16.000 Yes, I always say the Liberty Movement does not need a savior.

00:45:19.000 It needs hundreds of heroes.

00:45:21.000 It is the Battle of Chapultepec in 1847.

00:45:28.000 I still remember my Marine Corps history.

00:45:30.000 I've been a Marine in 30 years, so I still remember my history.

00:45:35.000 It was an E-4 that picked up the... No, it was a bunch of non-commissioned officers, E-4 and above, who basically picked up the issue and kept going.

00:45:42.000 If you ever watch... I had my daughter and I watch the movie Full Metal Jacket.

00:45:47.000 If you ever watch the part where they're ready to attack the city of Huey.

00:45:51.000 And as they're moving into Way City, there's a bunch of explosions.

00:45:54.000 The captain drops.

00:45:55.000 The second the captain drops, the staff sergeant gets up.

00:45:57.000 Let's move!

00:45:58.000 And the staff sergeant takes him, and he's still moving into the city anyway.

00:46:00.000 Band of brothers too, man.

00:46:01.000 When they drop behind enemy lines, the captain goes down and the lieutenant's forced to take over.

00:46:06.000 All elite units have that.

00:46:07.000 But mobs are not elite.

00:46:10.000 So mobs don't have that. 1.00

00:46:12.000 Trained elite units have that esprit de corps, they have that way of thinking.

00:46:16.000 Mobs don't. 0.96

00:46:16.000 It was Napoleon who said, if you want to get rid of a mob, give them a whiff of grapeshot. 0.96

00:46:20.000 Right?

00:46:21.000 Fire around and the mob will disperse.

00:46:23.000 Yeah, my favorite movie to quote, of course, The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

00:46:27.000 There's that great scene where he's talking with, I think it's Cornwallis, and he says, stop killing my officers.

00:46:32.000 Could you imagine what war would be like?

00:46:34.000 People running about.

00:46:35.000 And then he has, you know, that's the point.

00:46:37.000 But I love his response. 0.95

00:46:38.000 He was like, so long as your officers are killing women and children, I will order my men to fire on sight, which is awesome. 0.95

00:46:46.000 I love that movie. 0.89

00:46:46.000 Mel Gibson was amazing in it. 0.89

00:46:48.000 But that's the point.

00:46:49.000 It was, you know, don't kill the officers. 0.90

00:46:51.000 Just kill the lowly people and then let the officers live because we don't want disorganized warfare. 0.95

00:46:56.000 It's an insane thing to think that there was a time where people were like, we're going to war and I want you dead, but we'll be gentlemanly about it. 0.99

00:47:03.000 Because you would capture the enemy Duke and then you'd sell them back for 10 times the money you would make with a peace deal or with a beheading and then their son becomes the Duke and hates you.

00:47:12.000 There's no point.

00:47:13.000 So you're saying our approach to Antifa is all wrong, we should be capturing their leaders and selling them back to Antifa?

00:47:19.000 They wouldn't be that valuable.

00:47:20.000 I think that's what the law system has been doing.

00:47:22.000 They've been incarcerating them and bailing them out, basically.

00:47:24.000 Isn't that a similar thing?

00:47:25.000 They're paying themselves to release the...

00:47:29.000 Yeah, they arrest them, and then Antifa raises money through crowdfunding to pay to get them out of jail, keeping this industry rolling.

00:47:36.000 Could you imagine if that's the real reason there's not as many prosecutions with Antifa and they get released a lot?

00:47:41.000 It's because there's an industry around it.

00:47:43.000 High-paid lawyers, politicians getting funding, donations, crowdfunding websites.

00:47:47.000 They're all like, look, if we convict them, then we stop getting the money from this economy of activism.

00:47:53.000 And we have to pay to incarcerate them on top of it. 0.89

00:47:56.000 That's right.

00:47:57.000 We lose money.

00:47:58.000 I wish that was unbelievable, but it's not.

00:48:01.000 I wish that was unbelievable, but it's totally not.

00:48:04.000 But I mean, what would you do?

00:48:05.000 I mean, that's a free market, right?

00:48:07.000 No, no, governments by default, not a free market.

00:48:09.000 Yeah.

00:48:10.000 Once it's government, it's by default, not a free market.

00:48:10.000 By default.

00:48:13.000 So no, not at all.

00:48:13.000 Right.

00:48:14.000 How do you bounce that out?

00:48:15.000 Libertarian style with, with like the authority of governments, having control of the authority of government and being libertarian about it.

00:48:21.000 That is one of the broadest questions I've ever had.

00:48:23.000 I'll be a little more specific.

00:48:24.000 How do you feel about like public roads being owned by the government?

00:48:28.000 Yeah, as a general rule, that's not a real thing in America.

00:48:31.000 Americans don't want to hear that.

00:48:33.000 So my idea has always been, instead, you raise money for infrastructure by leasing out naming rights from that infrastructure.

00:48:40.000 So an example in New York City is a great example.

00:48:42.000 We have dozens of bridges in New York City.

00:48:45.000 They get mentioned hundreds of times every day on the reports, the traffic reports.

00:48:52.000 We see them on Google Maps.

00:48:53.000 They're in TV shows all the time.

00:48:56.000 Imagine instead of it being the George Washington Bridge, it was the Netflix Bridge or the Pepsi Bridge.

00:49:00.000 The Bud Light Bridge.

00:49:01.000 The Bud Light Bridge.

00:49:03.000 100% yes.

00:49:04.000 Go drink and drive.

00:49:04.000 They would easily pay us $100 million a year.

00:49:07.000 How do I know that?

00:49:08.000 Because I brought this up in 2018 and there were bankers talking to me about how long is the lease?

00:49:12.000 What are we talking about?

00:49:13.000 How long will it go?

00:49:13.000 Because you have to have it for at least 12 years, at least 10 year lease because culture has to also change, right?

00:49:20.000 So just because I want to name it the Pepsi Bridge.

00:49:23.000 I mean, I still won't call it the George Washington Bridge.

00:49:25.000 So culture has to change to get the Pepsi piece on there.

00:49:28.000 Plus they also control maintenance, but we still own the asset.

00:49:31.000 We own the asset, a leasing right, leasing naming rights to them.

00:49:35.000 You front load the contract.

00:49:36.000 So if they screw up on the maintenance, we remove the contract.

00:49:39.000 We get our money up front, new contract.

00:49:41.000 So now what happens, you raise money, you end the tolls.

00:49:44.000 Tolls in New York, 15 to 18 bucks for one bridge, one way.

00:49:47.000 Yep.

00:49:48.000 You get rid of those tolls.

00:49:49.000 Now the regular working poor and the middle class can drive across the bridge. 0.99

00:49:54.000 Independent truckers aren't getting hammered because they pay per axle.

00:49:57.000 So that now goes away.

00:49:58.000 And you don't have to pay for the maintenance of the bridge.

00:50:00.000 You take the cash, you pay for the MTA.

00:50:02.000 This is brilliant.

00:50:04.000 Maybe we should auction the name of Freedomistan.

00:50:07.000 So it'll be like Netflix.

00:50:09.000 Oh my gosh, you'd make at least 18 million bucks for the first year.

00:50:13.000 Next, Netflixia.

00:50:14.000 Netflixia.

00:50:16.000 I don't know if any of these corporations would want to be associated with our free domicile.

00:50:21.000 No, they would.

00:50:22.000 So we're building the new facility.

00:50:24.000 It's like 50 acres in the middle of West Virginia.

00:50:26.000 Nice.

00:50:26.000 So yeah, why don't we just do that?

00:50:28.000 We just be like, hey, you want to name it?

00:50:30.000 You got to pay.

00:50:31.000 And it's only good for, we'll do a five-year lease.

00:50:33.000 But that's what government should be doing, but it won't.

00:50:35.000 Here's the reason why.

00:50:36.000 Government is backward.

00:50:38.000 In other words, government says we're doing something, so government should pay some crony, some friend that I have, to do the work with taxpayer money.

00:50:46.000 Should be the opposite.

00:50:47.000 I'm giving you government land or government... You should pay me! 0.98

00:50:52.000 Why am I pay... Why?

00:50:53.000 Because, well, if you pay me, I can't reward my friends with jobs.

00:50:56.000 And remember, government is always two things.

00:50:59.000 A monopoly and a jobs program.

00:51:01.000 It's always those two things.

00:51:02.000 If you take away the jobs program, then take away the monopoly, government has very little power.

00:51:08.000 So they want to make sure that they're always spending money to create jobs so you become loyal to the government.

00:51:13.000 Yep.

00:51:14.000 Right?

00:51:14.000 So that's why they always create an office of this, an office of that, and they put $14 million towards it, $10 million towards it, because now my buddy and his son and daughter all get jobs now.

00:51:23.000 And once you get your population dependent on government controlled healthcare, you never got to worry about losing power ever again.

00:51:29.000 Correct.

00:51:29.000 Do you think in like the age of, uh, fifth generational warfare, meme warfare and stuff that naming roads and bridges, corporate names is dangerous?

00:51:38.000 Why?

00:51:39.000 Just because it brainwashes people to think the corporations are in control.

00:51:42.000 They already think it.

00:51:43.000 And, and, and then the other thing is they already think at number one.

00:51:46.000 And in many cases they are, I mean, Amazon is in heavy control already, but no matter what the person who's actually in control is the person who can arrest you.

00:51:54.000 That's the person who's actually in control, right?

00:51:56.000 Whoever can arrest you is actually in control.

00:51:59.000 So that's number one.

00:52:00.000 But the second piece is, there won't just be one bridge.

00:52:03.000 Amazon won't own all the bridges. 1.00

00:52:06.000 Well, they don't own any of them, right?

00:52:07.000 They just have the naming rights?

00:52:07.000 I'm sorry, the naming rights.

00:52:08.000 They won't own the naming rights to all the bridges.

00:52:10.000 One of them will be an Amazon bridge.

00:52:12.000 One will be a Pepsi bridge.

00:52:13.000 One will be a Netflix bridge.

00:52:14.000 Look, if Amazon wants to get two bridges and drop $200 million a year, they can get two bridges.

00:52:18.000 It's fine.

00:52:19.000 But there'll be a bunch of bridges.

00:52:20.000 But this is actually a really good idea.

00:52:21.000 Because check out this, right?

00:52:23.000 When you're leaving New York, you've got a couple different options for your bridges, right?

00:52:26.000 Yes.

00:52:26.000 Depending on where you're going.

00:52:27.000 So, when you're going north out of the... What's that?

00:52:30.000 Washington Bridge?

00:52:31.000 George Washington Bridge.

00:52:32.000 What's another option outside of the George Washington Bridge in the same direction?

00:52:35.000 You can go to Tappan Zee Bridge.

00:52:37.000 Well, it's actually called the Mario Cuomo Bridge, but I still call it... Because we... Well, you need to remember something.

00:52:42.000 We are an empire, so we always have to name our monuments about our royalty.

00:52:47.000 I would love to rename FDR.

00:52:49.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:52:50.000 So you've got the Cuomo Bridge and the Washington Bridge, right?

00:52:53.000 Yep.

00:52:53.000 Now imagine, because this is an amazing idea, imagine New York leases them out, and then Coke buys one, and Pepsi buys the other.

00:53:00.000 That would be awesome!

00:53:01.000 Analytics!

00:53:02.000 But hold on.

00:53:03.000 Then one day you're driving, and you hit a pothole on the Coke bridge, and you post on Twitter, these potholes on the Coke bridge are trash, I'm taking Pepsi.

00:53:10.000 Coke's gonna be like, we gotta fix this bridge!

00:53:12.000 How much money to fix the potholes? 0.96

00:53:14.000 And they'll fix it fast.

00:53:15.000 They will.

00:53:15.000 And cheaper.

00:53:17.000 That's a great incentive.

00:53:18.000 And cheaper.

00:53:19.000 You could rename it the FDR, what is it, a freeway?

00:53:22.000 The FDR?

00:53:22.000 Yeah, FDR Drive.

00:53:23.000 That would be nice to rename.

00:53:24.000 Absolutely!

00:53:25.000 FDR Drive!

00:53:26.000 It's kind of scary to think, though, that you're going to be like, you're going to make a right onto Netflix.

00:53:30.000 Once you get to the Pepsi bridge, you need to exit onto the KFC highway.

00:53:34.000 Yes, but the other option is horrible infrastructure being paid for by poor people. 0.99

00:53:39.000 The advantage of this right now is the left will always say, I want corporations to pay more.

00:53:46.000 Me too!

00:53:47.000 Let's just do it voluntarily.

00:53:49.000 Well, they're going to voluntarily pay for your infrastructure.

00:53:52.000 I want Netflix to pay for the MTA.

00:53:54.000 I'll get them to do it.

00:53:56.000 They'll happily do it.

00:53:57.000 Companies like Google and such have a $10 billion marketing budget.

00:54:02.000 That's just the marketing budget per year.

00:54:05.000 $100 million?

00:54:05.000 Easy day.

00:54:08.000 They don't care?

00:54:08.000 Do you think it would be okay to sell the name of New York City to Google and just call it Google?

00:54:13.000 No.

00:54:13.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:54:13.000 Just call it Google!

00:54:14.000 No.

00:54:15.000 Terrible idea.

00:54:16.000 But what's the difference?

00:54:17.000 Infrastructure is infrastructure.

00:54:19.000 Once you do the city, that's monopoly.

00:54:20.000 I don't want monopoly.

00:54:21.000 But it's just a name.

00:54:22.000 But it's the city.

00:54:23.000 It's one city.

00:54:24.000 You've just made another monopoly.

00:54:26.000 We have enough monopolies.

00:54:27.000 I want to sell things where there's lots of, right? Lots of.

00:54:30.000 And they can compete against each other.

00:54:31.000 Lots of. They might want to buy two or three of them. Good.

00:54:35.000 Put tons of money in it.

00:54:35.000 But not all of them. What if Google buys every available infrastructure, outbids everybody?

00:54:40.000 And so it's like, once you exit at Google 1, you turn left on Google 3. Google 4 is when you...

00:54:45.000 It's a valid point.

00:54:46.000 And if that becomes a problem, let's cross that bridge.

00:54:49.000 Nice.

00:54:50.000 Lovely.

00:54:52.000 I hope that becomes a problem.

00:54:54.000 I hope one company wants to spend $3 billion and pay for New York City's infrastructure.

00:55:00.000 Let that be a problem.

00:55:01.000 It's a brilliant idea.

00:55:02.000 I mean, truth be told, when it came to setting up Freedomistan, we just called it that.

00:55:07.000 I think Luke came up with the name.

00:55:08.000 It's like Afghanistan or whatever.

00:55:11.000 Stan meaning city.

00:55:12.000 And so he was like, call it Freedomistan or something.

00:55:14.000 Freedomistan.

00:55:15.000 I said Freedomistan.

00:55:17.000 We could raise money to expand our operation by offering someone up the chance to buy the naming rights for some amount of time.

00:55:23.000 And then whenever we're talking about it, we would call it like, you know, Joe's Plumbing Headquarters or whatever.

00:55:29.000 100%.

00:55:29.000 Why not?

00:55:30.000 Look, I was talking about the MTA, right?

00:55:32.000 The MTA is an old system, right?

00:55:33.000 The disadvantage of New York City is that its system is very old.

00:55:36.000 The subway is over 100 years old.

00:55:38.000 It takes forever to fix anything, to repair anything.

00:55:40.000 So I want a brand new system.

00:55:41.000 It's too expensive and it's a garbage system.

00:55:43.000 How do you fix it?

00:55:44.000 Okay.

00:55:45.000 At night, for those of you who don't know, an MTA at night, literally every other train, it's done every other train.

00:55:51.000 So make every other train a freight train.

00:55:53.000 Allow freight to come into the city.

00:55:55.000 Well, the first response I get is, well, you can't have freight coming to the city.

00:55:57.000 The tracks aren't ready for that.

00:55:59.000 I guess that means that FedEx and Home Depot and Amazon have to build all new tracks, won't they?

00:56:05.000 And what we'll do is every hub they create, they name their own hubs.

00:56:08.000 So it's the Home Depot hub, it's the so-and-so hub.

00:56:11.000 It's not gonna be the Moynihan station, again named after our elites.

00:56:14.000 It'll be the Home Depot station, it'll be the so-and-so station.

00:56:17.000 They'll get all the name rights, they'll rebuild the entire system.

00:56:20.000 We'll get more freight going to the city, less trucks on city roads at night.

00:56:24.000 They're happy, we're happy, and we get a brand new system, and we can lower the cost to about a buck a ride.

00:56:29.000 Have you considered running for some kind of political office?

00:56:31.000 I have!

00:56:32.000 And here's the worst part, that plan's been on my website for four years.

00:56:35.000 Wow.

00:56:36.000 No one's taken it.

00:56:37.000 I mean, we talked about it.

00:56:38.000 Oh, it's a great idea.

00:56:39.000 One of the nightmares of New York is shipping.

00:56:42.000 Yep.

00:56:42.000 It's so difficult, in New York City particularly.

00:56:44.000 Yes.

00:56:44.000 Getting goods into a city so dense is insane.

00:56:48.000 The roads are shot.

00:56:50.000 Correct.

00:56:50.000 The parking is ridiculous.

00:56:51.000 They've banned, like you can't, non-commercial vehicles can't even park in Manhattan because it's just too congested.

00:56:56.000 Correct.

00:56:57.000 Still like your plan.

00:56:58.000 This happens.

00:56:59.000 Now, literally, if you want to be eco-friendly, the city isn't a place where you have enough hubs.

00:57:03.000 You could literally have walkers.

00:57:05.000 People who are walking goods, people who are backpacking, you could use bikes, whatever you want.

00:57:09.000 Like an Uber type of thing.

00:57:10.000 You could make Uber, whatever is the right thing.

00:57:13.000 The point is, as a governor, I don't have to make that decision.

00:57:16.000 I change the environment, and then I got better players.

00:57:19.000 Larry, Larry, solving problems for regular working people, it doesn't work for the elites because the problems keep them in power.

00:57:25.000 But as long as I give them something, which if you notice, I'm always giving the elite something.

00:57:29.000 And it will create new problems for them to worry about.

00:57:31.000 Correct.

00:57:32.000 I give the elites, because if you try to just fight the elite straight up one-on-one, you lose.

00:57:37.000 Don't charge a machine gun nest.

00:57:38.000 Correct.

00:57:39.000 So I bring them aboard.

00:57:40.000 I bring them aboard and helping me out.

00:57:42.000 Right.

00:57:42.000 They, they, here's what I'm sure of.

00:57:44.000 Amazon wants to advertise.

00:57:46.000 So does Google and everyone else.

00:57:47.000 And they don't know how.

00:57:48.000 They're throwing this stuff all over the place.

00:57:50.000 They're figuring out how this thing works.

00:57:51.000 I'm giving you away and I'll talk about it on top of it as governor.

00:57:55.000 I'll talk about it.

00:57:56.000 Dude, if Fifth Avenue was Amazon Ave and then you had Bed Bath & Beyond Ave or whatever.

00:58:01.000 I don't want to change the streets.

00:58:02.000 I'd be down.

00:58:03.000 The streets in Manhattan are all numbered.

00:58:05.000 I guess it helps you navigate.

00:58:06.000 And it's easy to navigate.

00:58:07.000 So I don't want to change streets.

00:58:10.000 All my policies are always set up to help the working poor and the middle class.

00:58:14.000 But this is interesting.

00:58:15.000 And that will hurt the working poor middle class, so I'm not okay with that. 0.54

00:58:18.000 So if we're talking about bringing freight into the city on the tracks, on the existing massive, what you said, subway.

00:58:24.000 Rebuilt, be rebuilt subway tracks.

00:58:26.000 That's gonna save these companies insane amounts of money.

00:58:29.000 Yes.

00:58:29.000 So they have a massive profit incentive for investing in this if they get access to it.

00:58:34.000 Yes, and it's just their marketing budget anyway.

00:58:36.000 They're not paying any extra money.

00:58:37.000 No, I mean like.

00:58:38.000 So I'm not causing them to pay any extra money out of their budget, But they're putting more money into infrastructure.

00:58:44.000 But I'm not talking about the naming rights.

00:58:45.000 I'm also talking about if you allow the trains to come in instead of pubs, they're going to say it's going to cost us X per year.

00:58:55.000 If we invest $100 million, it'll be X minus Y. We're going to save money over 10 years.

00:59:01.000 We're going to put more money in our pockets.

00:59:04.000 They'll save money after the first year.

00:59:05.000 That's right.

00:59:07.000 And they'll build it faster.

00:59:08.000 So if there's an opportunity for these corporations, for the elites, why isn't this stuff getting done?

00:59:14.000 Why would you, when the people in power just fight each other?

00:59:18.000 As long as we maintain this left-right dichotomy, there is literally no need to fix anything.

00:59:27.000 We just fight each other.

00:59:28.000 I'm the oddball here.

00:59:30.000 If you look at anyone else running, go to their website and look for policy.

00:59:34.000 You will find none.

00:59:36.000 What you will find is, other guy bad, America.

00:59:40.000 Other guy bad, America.

00:59:42.000 That's what you'll find.

00:59:43.000 And that happened since, believe it or not, Al Gore in 2001.

00:59:46.000 All consultants tell their people, don't put detailed policy on your website, because then your enemies will attack you on it.

00:59:54.000 So don't put it on.

00:59:55.000 I think the opposite.

00:59:56.000 Third party has to.

00:59:57.000 We don't get noticed without it.

00:59:59.000 I want to read for everybody a text message I received today, proving your point.

01:00:04.000 Um, I don't know if I should read the guy's name.

01:00:06.000 Should I?

01:00:06.000 He's probably in the office.

01:00:08.000 All right, I'm not gonna read his name, but I got it.

01:00:09.000 He says, uh, hi, Tim.

01:00:11.000 He says, hi, Timothy.

01:00:13.000 This is candidate for Congress in New Jersey's second congressional district.

01:00:17.000 I tried calling today to introduce myself.

01:00:19.000 I'm a lifelong New Jersey and civil rights attorney with a 27 year long career in law enforcement, and I'm running for Congress to replace turncoat Jeff Van Drew.

01:00:28.000 There we go.

01:00:30.000 I'm trying to build an early staff.

01:00:31.000 Would love your money.

01:00:32.000 It's not the first text I've received.

01:00:34.000 I also, cause it's, it's, it's the season, right?

01:00:37.000 Um, let me see.

01:00:38.000 I got another one in here somewhere.

01:00:39.000 Here we go.

01:00:41.000 Let's see.

01:00:43.000 Who is this one?

01:00:44.000 Okay, here we go.

01:00:45.000 Hi, Tim.

01:00:45.000 It's Candidate, the dirt road Democrat that will defeat the queen of QAnon, Marjorie Taylor Greene in November.

01:00:52.000 You know what, man?

01:00:53.000 I've gotten a bunch of these texts from Democrats, and all of them are like, I hate this person, so give me money!

01:01:00.000 Yes, that's all of them that way.

01:01:02.000 What's happened now, again, this is a left versus a right paradigm.

01:01:05.000 It's now a point where my victory is you losing.

01:01:09.000 My victory isn't me winning.

01:01:10.000 My victory is you losing.

01:01:12.000 So your pain is my joy.

01:01:15.000 Who wins with that?

01:01:16.000 No one.

01:01:17.000 No one.

01:01:17.000 This is Gandhi's eye for an eye and we all go blind.

01:01:20.000 This is not the way of doing things.

01:01:22.000 It's got to be how do we fix things that makes things better.

01:01:26.000 I can't get past the other guy bad if I don't have a solution.

01:01:31.000 My point is If I can show someone that my way will make their life better, I have a chance of them voting for me.

01:01:38.000 And I still get it when I had idea when it came to cannabis.

01:01:41.000 Right.

01:01:41.000 And I said, let's regulate cannabis, like onions.

01:01:44.000 It's a plant, like onions, let farmers grow.

01:01:47.000 If they want to grow a craft, grow in New York state.

01:01:49.000 If you're poor, grow your medicine in your backyard.

01:01:52.000 Right.

01:01:52.000 Uh, if you have my, my, my saying was, if you like your dealer, keep your dealer.

01:01:56.000 Right.

01:01:57.000 Because you don't have to get a special license for it.

01:01:59.000 Right.

01:01:59.000 It's a plant, right?

01:02:00.000 So regular onions, all good.

01:02:02.000 People still talk about that.

01:02:04.000 Like, I'll be in New York, a car will drive by, roll the window down, go, Larry Sharp!

01:02:08.000 Regulate like onions!

01:02:09.000 Literally, that will still happen.

01:02:10.000 That's the point I was talking about earlier, which is, for every policy, you want to have a policy that is, you know, radical enough for someone to notice it, but familiar enough for someone to accept.

01:02:21.000 So, regulate, oh, that's familiar, like onions.

01:02:24.000 That's weird.

01:02:25.000 Because there really aren't that many regulations on onions.

01:02:27.000 In New York, there are too many probably.

01:02:29.000 Probably like carrots or something, but I don't care.

01:02:31.000 You pick the vegetable.

01:02:32.000 Regulate like a vegetable.

01:02:33.000 Now, oh, it's different.

01:02:35.000 It's a plant.

01:02:35.000 This is why I really liked Andrew Yang.

01:02:40.000 And who, I'm forgetting the woman's name, was it Marianne Williamson?

01:02:42.000 Yes, Marianne Williamson.

01:02:43.000 I really, I really felt bad for her, but I really, it was quite endearing when she was on the stage and she was like, I don't want to talk bad about people.

01:02:51.000 Right.

01:02:51.000 You know, they were trying to ask her something and she was like, I don't want to You have to do this!

01:02:56.000 And I was like, I respect that, but man, did she get roasted by the establishment corporate press. 0.99

01:03:02.000 They called her the crystal woo-woo lady and all that stuff.

01:03:04.000 And she's like, I don't own any crystals.

01:03:05.000 I don't understand.

01:03:07.000 Andrew Yang, you know, I was a fan.

01:03:09.000 I'm not that big of a fan right now.

01:03:10.000 He's okay.

01:03:11.000 I give him a C minus.

01:03:12.000 I was at, I had him at an A plus before and it was because his website was loaded with policy.

01:03:16.000 I was like, man, he's got a policy for everything.

01:03:18.000 He's like, hey, I actually thought about these things.

01:03:18.000 I love it.

01:03:20.000 I want to fix them.

01:03:21.000 Yes.

01:03:21.000 But then I feel like, you know, like Bernie Sanders, like many of these other, you know, politicians, they decide to play ball at the establishment and walk into that.

01:03:28.000 They play that game.

01:03:30.000 I think, I think before, I think he tried that and it didn't work.

01:03:33.000 And now he's out.

01:03:34.000 That's why he's out.

01:03:35.000 And I think it's the right move.

01:03:36.000 And by the way, I have a policy.

01:03:38.000 May I promote for a second?

01:03:39.000 Oh, of course.

01:03:40.000 LarrySharp.com.

01:03:41.000 That is Larry Sharp with an E. And the E stands for electable.

01:03:45.000 So you can check out larrysharpe.com and I've got all my policy there and it's most of it's been there for four years.

01:03:52.000 I've just added some more recent policy because the state has gotten even worse.

01:03:56.000 I've added the idea of a New York State currency, an idea of a stipend, a yearly stipend that comes out of New York State.

01:04:02.000 I've added all the different type of ideas but what Yang agrees with completely and me agree completely is third party is the only way to save the country.

01:04:12.000 I don't even like saying third, because I want more.

01:04:15.000 Yes, more parties, but at least one, right?

01:04:18.000 It is so hard in some, if you're a Democrat or Republican, you may not know this, but

01:04:22.000 your party actively uses your money to sue, to throw people off the ballot.

01:04:29.000 They go out of their way to get judges to remove your choice so it can remove your voice.

01:04:36.000 That's what they do.

01:04:37.000 They do not want a functioning democracy.

01:04:39.000 They don't want primaries.

01:04:40.000 They want to select the people.

01:04:41.000 Remember, with gerrymandering, the parties pick the voters.

01:04:45.000 The voters don't pick the parties.

01:04:47.000 So the parties pick the voters with gerrymandering to make their decisions on who gets what, controlled opposition and then non, and then those who are in charge.

01:04:54.000 Then the parties pick the leaders, so no voting in the primary, and then gerrymandering ensures they win.

01:05:01.000 So they're appointing all of these leaders and begging you for money if there's a chance that someone's going to lose.

01:05:07.000 Most of the people who are begging you for money know already who's going to win.

01:05:11.000 They just want you to give them money so they can keep raising money.

01:05:12.000 It's all a grift.

01:05:13.000 That's what most of them are doing.

01:05:15.000 You make a third or fourth party, gerrymandering is irrelevant.

01:05:18.000 Right?

01:05:19.000 You make a third or fourth party, us versus them is irrelevant.

01:05:21.000 Why's that?

01:05:22.000 Because if you gerrymander for, say, Republicans in one district, right?

01:05:26.000 Most rural districts are gerrymandered for Republicans, right?

01:05:29.000 Most are.

01:05:30.000 So most city ones are gerrymandered for Democrats, generally speaking, right?

01:05:33.000 There's obvious exceptions, but a general rule.

01:05:36.000 Well, now there's a third party in there.

01:05:38.000 How do I know?

01:05:39.000 Right?

01:05:39.000 Parties, if you do it right, will be specialized parties.

01:05:43.000 So this part is gonna be heavily about whatever, um, healthcare for all.

01:05:43.000 Right?

01:05:48.000 This one's going to be about free market cannabis, right?

01:05:50.000 There's going to be a bunch of parties.

01:05:52.000 So if I'm a Republican, but that was, but I'm a single issue voter on these things, I'm going to lose that Republican voter.

01:05:59.000 If I'm a Democrat, but I'm a single issue voter on those things, I lose that voter.

01:06:02.000 It breaks up, it breaks up the, uh, the gerrymandering.

01:06:05.000 I think you're right.

01:06:06.000 And full disclosure, I've donated to the Ford Party.

01:06:09.000 For that reason, there needs to be something different.

01:06:13.000 And I still think that one of the problems is, I'm not a fan of the establishment Republicans.

01:06:20.000 I like the more populist, libertarian-type Republicans.

01:06:22.000 Up in New Hampshire, the libertarians, they run as Republicans.

01:06:25.000 And the fear though is it's our election system.

01:06:29.000 It's first past the post voting.

01:06:30.000 You're right.

01:06:31.000 People are going to say, look, man, I get it.

01:06:33.000 They're Republicans, but I will do anything to stop the Democrats.

01:06:37.000 I agree.

01:06:38.000 And that's why we all three parties unite.

01:06:40.000 The Libertarian Party and the forward party have what I call the bro program.

01:06:47.000 Yes, it is Bro, B-R-O, B, easier ballot access to let people on the ballot. 0.99

01:06:52.000 It doesn't mean you have to vote for them, but let them be on the ballot to vote.

01:06:56.000 R, Ranked Choice Voting.

01:06:58.000 If we don't make Ranked Choice Voting happen, you are correct.

01:07:00.000 You're right.

01:07:01.000 You've got to have a Ranked Choice Voting to where you can say, I really like Larry Sharp, but if he doesn't win, I like this person.

01:07:08.000 So I wrote Larry Sharp first, I really like him.

01:07:11.000 Cause he's really good looking.

01:07:12.000 So I pick him on a total that makes no sense except that he's hot.

01:07:15.000 And then I go to the next person who I think of policy is good.

01:07:18.000 I think that's actually a Trudeau one.

01:07:20.000 That's a Trudeau one.

01:07:21.000 Yes.

01:07:21.000 So if I don't win, I still get my safety net.

01:07:24.000 Right.

01:07:25.000 So that we need that.

01:07:26.000 And last is open primaries.

01:07:29.000 So that people can vote in different, if I'm not part of a party, I can still decide what matters to me.

01:07:34.000 So say I'm usually a Democrat, I'm usually a Republican, but in this specific race, nobody in my party that it's running is worth anything.

01:07:41.000 So I want to vote for the Democrat this time, or I want to vote for Libertarian this time.

01:07:44.000 So I have a chance of doing so in the primaries.

01:07:46.000 So ballot access, ranked choice voting, open primaries, that will change the country.

01:07:52.000 I dig it.

01:07:53.000 What do you think about the Mises Caucus?

01:07:55.000 I'm on the advisory board.

01:07:56.000 Oh, well there you go.

01:07:58.000 I would be on the advisory board of any caucus before with you.

01:08:01.000 And I've openly said that.

01:08:03.000 They're the only ones who actually took me up on it.

01:08:05.000 Oh wow.

01:08:06.000 Yes, I offered it for, when the Pratt caucus used it, I offered it for them, they didn't want me.

01:08:10.000 So, the only ones who wanted me was them, so I took it.

01:08:12.000 So I'm open to all caucuses, is it caucuses?

01:08:15.000 Caucus-I?

01:08:16.000 I don't know, I'm just making it up.

01:08:18.000 We're gonna have President Dave Smith, Press Secretary Michael Maus, who would be the VP in that circumstance?

01:08:23.000 Has he said?

01:08:24.000 Has anyone mentioned it?

01:08:25.000 Don't know.

01:08:25.000 No, I don't know.

01:08:26.000 Smith Sharp.

01:08:27.000 Do they have to be an American? 0.99

01:08:29.000 Yes!

01:08:30.000 But not to be governor?

01:08:32.000 You don't have to be American to be governor?

01:08:33.000 No, I'm talking about the presidency.

01:08:35.000 Governor, you just have to live, I think, in New York.

01:08:37.000 You have to be a resident of New York State for, I think, five years.

01:08:39.000 That's interesting.

01:08:40.000 You just move in from Saudi Arabia and five years later be governor?

01:08:43.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the rule.

01:08:44.000 You have to be over 30.

01:08:46.000 You'd be 30 years or older, and I think a resident.

01:08:48.000 It's five or seven.

01:08:49.000 I forgot one or two, but a resident.

01:08:50.000 I've been a resident for many decades, so it doesn't matter to me, but it's a certain number of years.

01:08:55.000 Do you think there would be value to letting non-American citizens or people that aren't born in the U.S. 1.00

01:08:59.000 run for president and VP at some stage in their life?

01:09:02.000 I don't know.

01:09:03.000 I mean, I understand why they did it in the past because a lot of people weren't born in America.

01:09:07.000 We had so much immigration, they worried about people coming over and royalty coming over and taking over and making American royalty in the 1700s, 1800s.

01:09:13.000 It made sense then.

01:09:14.000 I'm not sure now, to be honest with you.

01:09:16.000 Would it be terrible for, you know, someone like, you know, an immigrant who's come over and learned the American dream to become president?

01:09:24.000 I don't know.

01:09:24.000 Yeah, I think Elon Musk particularly.

01:09:26.000 I don't know.

01:09:26.000 Like, they can never do it.

01:09:27.000 It just seems so wrong.

01:09:29.000 No, I still agree with it, but I think the issue is it's a safety measure against people who don't understand our culture, our values, our principles.

01:09:38.000 Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working too well because we had Joe Biden in office.

01:09:41.000 Sure, but that's because there is a malignancy growing within this country that opposes what the United States is and always has been, and is seeking to supplant it, and it's been growing exponentially over the past 10 years.

01:09:57.000 I'm hoping you can call this bro program, the brogram.

01:09:59.000 I don't know, is that a... The brogram, I'm so stealing that, I'm calling it from now on.

01:10:03.000 It's kind of cliche, it might play, worth running through focus groups.

01:10:07.000 Done, so doing it, done.

01:10:08.000 Might be a bit of a dad joke, I don't know.

01:10:10.000 I'm stealing it and giving you exactly no credit.

01:10:12.000 Thank you.

01:10:12.000 That's the way it should be.

01:10:15.000 The challenge on the immigration issue is that, you know, for one, we're seeing a massive influx of non-citizens pouring into the country. 0.91

01:10:22.000 These are people who see opportunity but don't understand the opportunity.

01:10:22.000 Yes.

01:10:26.000 And so we have a very interesting problem.

01:10:30.000 I've often said I have infinitely more respect for illegal immigrants who are risking life and limb traveling through Mexico to try and come to the United States because there is a dream of opportunity.

01:10:41.000 I have more respect for them than I do the woke leftists who are like America is inherently evil and all of that stuff.

01:10:46.000 The problem is They're both not representing or understanding.

01:10:51.000 I mean, certainly, I think one ideal is better than the other.

01:10:54.000 That America is great is better than saying America is bad.

01:10:57.000 But we need people who understand what it took to make sure the country was great.

01:11:01.000 The freedoms, liberties, that allow people to prosper.

01:11:05.000 Otherwise, you end up with people coming here and being like, look, I don't care, I got mine.

01:11:09.000 You end up with people being born here saying, I'm not getting mine, so I'll take it. 1.00

01:11:13.000 And that's, it's a malignancy I think that's growing in this country and it's displacing the people who are like, you know, I won't forget the men who died who, you know, made this land free or whatever the line is, right?

01:11:24.000 I'm not sure that native-born Americans are any more or less patriotic to be fair.

01:11:31.000 I don't really know if that's true.

01:11:32.000 I know a lot of native-born Americans who do nothing but badmouth America. 1.00

01:11:35.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:11:35.000 And I know lots of people who are immigrants who talk great about America.

01:11:38.000 And the reverse.

01:11:39.000 I don't know if I could... I'd like some data on that.

01:11:41.000 Is there any difference?

01:11:42.000 I don't actually know.

01:11:43.000 I guess to answer your question, it's not a big deal to me either way to be forward with you.

01:11:47.000 I don't really know if it matters much.

01:11:48.000 I learned a new appreciation for the United States when I spent time in Peru and in Chile.

01:11:53.000 When you see the national police on every corner, just like, wow, if I slip up here, the feds are on me.

01:11:58.000 There's no local protection in these countries.

01:12:00.000 Traveling's amazing.

01:12:01.000 I lived in Japan for many years.

01:12:02.000 How long?

01:12:03.000 Four years.

01:12:03.000 Oh, wow.

01:12:04.000 I was teaching English there.

01:12:05.000 So I lived in Japan for four years.

01:12:05.000 Oh, cool.

01:12:08.000 I toured China, Philippines, Korea.

01:12:11.000 I had to do some work in London and Berlin.

01:12:15.000 And when you're in those other cities, in those countries, you do see a difference.

01:12:18.000 You understand what it is to be American.

01:12:20.000 Do you speak Japanese?

01:12:21.000 I still have a Japanese driver's license.

01:12:21.000 A little bit.

01:12:23.000 I still have it on me.

01:12:24.000 Oh, cool, cool.

01:12:25.000 Learn it out.

01:12:25.000 Nice.

01:12:26.000 I keep it.

01:12:26.000 It is literally like, I don't know, 30 years old or something.

01:12:29.000 30 years old?

01:12:30.000 I still keep it.

01:12:31.000 Huh.

01:12:32.000 Japanese driver's license.

01:12:32.000 Sweet.

01:12:34.000 Yes.

01:12:34.000 Look at this guy.

01:12:35.000 Yes.

01:12:35.000 Looking all young.

01:12:36.000 That was many years ago.

01:12:37.000 What were some of the biggest differences you noticed, maybe off the top of your head?

01:12:41.000 Yeah, I remember one time something was happening.

01:12:43.000 It was probably in the late 80s, early 90s, as I'm going to guess.

01:12:43.000 I forgot what it was.

01:12:48.000 And we were talking about burning the American flag.

01:12:51.000 And one of the students asked me, I said, Larry, why do you guys care so much when you burn the American flag?

01:12:57.000 Like, no one in Japan cares you burn the Japanese flag.

01:12:59.000 That's why no one burns the Japanese flag.

01:13:00.000 Because we don't care.

01:13:01.000 It doesn't make the news.

01:13:02.000 Nobody cares.

01:13:03.000 I said, because you gotta understand something.

01:13:05.000 In Japan, you are united by so many things.

01:13:08.000 And this particularly in the 90s for sure, but even now still.

01:13:11.000 Speak the same language.

01:13:12.000 Same religion.

01:13:13.000 Same school system.

01:13:15.000 Right?

01:13:15.000 Read the same books.

01:13:17.000 Watch the same TV.

01:13:18.000 Eat the same foods.

01:13:19.000 They're very much connected on a different level.

01:13:22.000 But when you come to America, we're not. 0.96

01:13:24.000 We don't have those similarities.

01:13:25.000 We are linked by our symbols.

01:13:28.000 We are linked by our ideology.

01:13:30.000 That's how we're linked.

01:13:31.000 The flag means a lot to us because it's a symbol of what keeps us together.

01:13:35.000 We don't have the same other things.

01:13:36.000 Japanese don't require a flag.

01:13:38.000 That's just a piece of cloth to them.

01:13:40.000 They know they're all together.

01:13:41.000 They know they're all Japanese.

01:13:42.000 That's most countries.

01:13:43.000 Not all, obviously.

01:13:44.000 But that's many countries.

01:13:45.000 Countries that are not as homogenous or who don't have that connection culturally rely more on symbols.

01:13:52.000 And I think that was also a part of me to understand that idea that how, you know, symbols matter,

01:13:57.000 how our president is one of the only leaders who is both the head of state and head of government,

01:14:02.000 and it gives him so much power, and how we look in most countries when something goes wrong,

01:14:07.000 they blame the leader, right?

01:14:10.000 Something goes wrong.

01:14:11.000 Oh, something happened. 0.86

01:14:12.000 You're a bad leader.

01:14:13.000 Something went wrong.

01:14:13.000 We do the opposite.

01:14:14.000 Leader, save us, right?

01:14:16.000 So when 9-11 happened, somebody blamed Bush.

01:14:19.000 They all said, Bush, come save us, right?

01:14:21.000 That had happened in Japan.

01:14:22.000 That government falls.

01:14:24.000 Wow.

01:14:25.000 I think the symbols thing is very apt, very accurate, because I've often brought up why, you know, I think this country is so important.

01:14:33.000 We have a variety of different ethnic backgrounds, religions, and the one thing that we all have in common is that we're Americans.

01:14:41.000 And that's why I very much despise the critical race theorists and their ideologies that segregate based on race, want us all to focus on races and identities, because You can't really tell.

01:14:53.000 I mean, the issue for me is obvious, and I've brought it up, you know, with the audience very often, but having someone decide for you what you should be allowed to do based on your race, and then separating people, I'm like, no, no, we're all Americans here.

01:15:05.000 And that's the one thing we all have.

01:15:07.000 That's our identity.

01:15:07.000 Our identity is American.

01:15:09.000 Because there are a lot of people who are here who are first, second, third generation immigrant.

01:15:13.000 Their identity is not, I mean, if you're the grandchild of immigrants, You have a very short-lived American tradition. 0.99

01:15:21.000 You probably don't know too much about the old country, maybe a little bit from your grandparents.

01:15:24.000 What if it's your great-grandparents?

01:15:27.000 You have American traditions.

01:15:28.000 And so the one thing that unites all of us is, it's America.

01:15:31.000 We have a flag, we have a national anthem, we have the pledge, all of those things, and we stand together for these ideals.

01:15:36.000 We have a constitution.

01:15:37.000 Unfortunately now, whether it's because of social media or universities, there is a growing conflict with a lot of people who don't believe in the flag.

01:15:47.000 They hate it.

01:15:48.000 They hate this country.

01:15:48.000 They think it's evil.

01:15:49.000 They want to see it destroyed.

01:15:51.000 And they're gaining more and more power.

01:15:54.000 I think there's powerful political elites.

01:15:55.000 I think they can wield this raucous faction and that it will give them some kind of edge, but they can't control it.

01:16:03.000 I think there's two parts to that.

01:16:05.000 Kind of make that hard.

01:16:06.000 One of them is fractured media, right?

01:16:09.000 The fractured media, which I think in general is a good thing, but this is a bad side to the fractured media.

01:16:14.000 Now we're all watching, you know, we're not all watching Walter Cronkite tell us what's good.

01:16:19.000 We're watching individuals tell us what we kind of get, right?

01:16:23.000 We're staying in those, those areas.

01:16:25.000 That's well, that's a great thing for choice.

01:16:27.000 That's a great thing for freedom.

01:16:28.000 It's really for information that there's more benefit than there is downside to this.

01:16:33.000 But one downside is that.

01:16:35.000 But now there becomes a second downside.

01:16:37.000 Our politicians, our system, doesn't support anybody.

01:16:42.000 So what I mean by that?

01:16:43.000 All the problems that happen, Democrats are the party of bad ideas, Republicans are the party of no ideas.

01:16:50.000 So no one is actually helped.

01:16:53.000 I completely agree.

01:16:53.000 And when no one is helped, people go, well who's gonna help me?

01:16:57.000 People have problems.

01:16:58.000 Now in a libertarian world, We support communities for communities to help people.

01:17:04.000 That's what we should be doing in our perfect world.

01:17:06.000 Obviously, we're not there.

01:17:07.000 But we want to start to create a world where communities help people fall down, people make mistakes, people get in trouble.

01:17:13.000 We're human beings.

01:17:13.000 That's what happens.

01:17:14.000 And we want to have a world where the community step up and go, okay, I got you.

01:17:18.000 You come out of prison.

01:17:18.000 Right?

01:17:19.000 Community should help you. 1.00

01:17:21.000 You're an addict. 0.95

01:17:22.000 Community should help you.

01:17:23.000 That's the goal for us to be there.

01:17:23.000 Right?

01:17:25.000 We don't do that.

01:17:26.000 We create programs.

01:17:27.000 What programs do is they service you.

01:17:29.000 They don't help you.

01:17:30.000 They service you, so they keep you where you are forever, so we all have jobs.

01:17:35.000 But actual non-profits that are not funded by the government, those actually help people.

01:17:41.000 How do you know?

01:17:42.000 Because they have a donor base.

01:17:43.000 You don't give money to somebody unless they show you a success story.

01:17:47.000 So I'm incentivized, if I'm not government funded, to give you a success story.

01:17:51.000 See, look, I did something.

01:17:53.000 We helped someone.

01:17:54.000 I'm incentivized to do that.

01:17:55.000 But if I'm government funded, I'm not.

01:17:58.000 I'm incentivized to check a box.

01:18:00.000 I checked the box.

01:18:02.000 I get my government money.

01:18:03.000 Now you might say, wait a minute, Larry.

01:18:04.000 There are non-profits who are terrible.

01:18:06.000 Look at them.

01:18:06.000 Most of them are government funded.

01:18:08.000 Which means, what does that mean?

01:18:09.000 They're not actually non-profits.

01:18:10.000 They're just government agencies that are non-unionized.

01:18:13.000 So the government gets non-unionized workers.

01:18:16.000 That's what that actually is.

01:18:17.000 Second Amendment.

01:18:18.000 Yes.

01:18:19.000 How do you feel about it?

01:18:19.000 What about it?

01:18:20.000 I am the only candidate who was pro-2A in all of New York State.

01:18:24.000 Not even close.

01:18:25.000 The only one.

01:18:25.000 I was the only one in 2018 who actually had a plan to end our SAFE Act.

01:18:30.000 And those of you who may not know, the SAFE Act in New York State was enacted in 2013 after Sandy Hook.

01:18:36.000 Which, by the way, did not happen in New York State.

01:18:39.000 But it was to stop all the Sandy Hooks that were happening in New York State, which was exactly none.

01:18:45.000 There was no problem.

01:18:46.000 We created a Safe Act where basically what it said was, you are about a million New Yorkers who legally purchased your firearm, now you are violent felons.

01:18:55.000 Because if you have a firearm violation in New York State, by default it's violent whether you do anything with that firearm or not.

01:19:01.000 It made literally plastic pieces that go on your firearm illegal.

01:19:05.000 It created a black market in ammunition, a black market in firearms, making law enforcement's job even harder.

01:19:11.000 It made sure that people who have a smaller stature can't get accessories to be able to use firearms well.

01:19:17.000 And it made sure that veterans knew that if they got reported, that they would lose their firearms.

01:19:22.000 So it made veterans with PTSD and TBI issues not report anymore.

01:19:26.000 It created a secret state police in that now our medical personnel have to report if there's any problem.

01:19:31.000 This actually happened, I think it was Rochester, where a guy comes in after a car accident.

01:19:35.000 The nurse says, oh my god, how are you feeling?

01:19:36.000 He goes, I feel so bad, I want to die.

01:19:38.000 She checked boxes, suicidal.

01:19:40.000 State police came back to get his firearms.

01:19:41.000 Wow.

01:19:42.000 Yes.

01:19:43.000 So that kind of stuff happened from the Safe Act.

01:19:45.000 It made New Yorkers feel terrible about it, and many of them have left because of it.

01:19:50.000 So I was the only one in 2018 who had a plan to actually end it.

01:19:54.000 New York State is insanely anti-gun.

01:19:56.000 And I mean insanely anti-gun.

01:19:59.000 To the point where if you take your legally purchased firearm, and you follow every TSA guideline, it is unlocked, I'm sorry, it's locked up and unloaded, and you follow every TSA guideline, you bring that firearm into New York City, you are going to Rikers Island.

01:20:13.000 That is going to happen.

01:20:15.000 Yes, the most violent jail in the country, you are going there, whether you are male or female, with or without kids, that's happened more than once.

01:20:22.000 Luke was, I think it was Luke who was telling this, Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change, saying that there are stories where people will be traveling through New York, and it's for like maybe an international flight or somewhere, they'll have a legal gun, it'll be in a legal case, locked, no ammunition, magazine removed or whatever.

01:20:42.000 They'll check it in their legal state, and that New York City has cops waiting, knowing when you have a gun, and they wait for you to put your hand on the bag, and the moment you do, they walk up and arrest you for illegal possession.

01:20:53.000 That's accurate.

01:20:53.000 Correct.

01:20:54.000 And in New York State, loaded has a different definition.

01:20:58.000 Loaded is ammunition in the vicinity of the firearm.

01:21:01.000 What's vicinity mean?

01:21:03.000 Thank you.

01:21:04.000 Yes.

01:21:04.000 Thank you.

01:21:05.000 Yes.

01:21:06.000 It means I, I don't know.

01:21:08.000 There's a box there and a firearm there.

01:21:10.000 That's loaded.

01:21:10.000 That's what that means.

01:21:12.000 New York state's insane. 0.91

01:21:12.000 Wow. 0.91

01:21:12.000 Yes. 0.91

01:21:13.000 We have the, we have the sticker gun laws.

01:21:16.000 In the country.

01:21:17.000 So what I want to make is simple laws, simple, just universal transportation.

01:21:22.000 How about that?

01:21:23.000 Any place you go in New York state, anywhere, no matter what the local gun laws are, doesn't matter.

01:21:27.000 If your firearm is locked and unloaded, you don't go to jail.

01:21:32.000 That's not crazy.

01:21:33.000 That is a law that people could accept.

01:21:36.000 If you bought your firearm legally, it's locked and unloaded and change the definition of loaded.

01:21:41.000 Loaded means, gonna sound crazy, bullets in the gun.

01:21:45.000 That's loaded.

01:21:46.000 Bullets are in the gun.

01:21:48.000 That is loaded.

01:21:49.000 They're not in the gun.

01:21:49.000 It's unloaded.

01:21:50.000 Just do that.

01:21:50.000 Now, that means other counties can have looser laws if they want to.

01:21:54.000 No worries, and many will, right?

01:21:56.000 Lots of rural counties will have much easier carrier laws, and I'm happy with that.

01:21:59.000 I wish there were more.

01:22:00.000 But New York City is not going to be looser than that right now.

01:22:05.000 It's not where New York City is.

01:22:06.000 It's not where Rochester is.

01:22:07.000 Most of the cities aren't that way.

01:22:09.000 So at least get to that.

01:22:10.000 Plus I'll do something else.

01:22:11.000 To get a permit in New York State.

01:22:12.000 New York State is not a shall issue state.

01:22:15.000 It's a may issue state.

01:22:17.000 And it's, I believe it's called, it's called, it's literally a may issue.

01:22:22.000 Yep.

01:22:24.000 That's accurate.

01:22:24.000 Correct.

01:22:25.000 So I'm going to change it to a shall issue.

01:22:27.000 If they don't issue your permit in 90 days, they have 90 day waiting period that they can check you out, do whatever they want to do within 90 days.

01:22:33.000 If they don't say yes, it's yes.

01:22:36.000 And if they say yes, and by the way, we have an example of this already in New York City with the Department of Buildings.

01:22:41.000 You have to build in New York City or the real estate moguls will destroy you.

01:22:45.000 So our Department of Buildings has a rule, I think it's four months, I'm not sure.

01:22:48.000 If you don't get approved within four months, you're approved.

01:22:51.000 Or whatever the time period.

01:22:52.000 Wow.

01:22:53.000 I want to follow the same thing for firearm permits.

01:22:56.000 90 days.

01:22:57.000 And if they do disapprove you, no worries.

01:22:59.000 They must give you a reason and an appeals process.

01:23:02.000 Right now, they do not have to give you a reason or an appeals process.

01:23:05.000 They just go, I don't like you.

01:23:07.000 No, that is totally illegal in New York State.

01:23:09.000 Why 90 days though?

01:23:10.000 Because we already have 90 days.

01:23:12.000 So I wanna, again, familiar enough, but radical enough.

01:23:16.000 We already, right now, officially we're on 90 days, but what they do is they always say we don't have enough people, we don't have enough bodies, and we're a May issue anyway.

01:23:16.000 All right, all right.

01:23:25.000 So they usually, in certain places, they'll take two years to get a permit.

01:23:28.000 We need a, there's a Supreme Court case coming, I believe, right?

01:23:31.000 Yep.

01:23:32.000 Did it already happen?

01:23:33.000 It did.

01:23:34.000 Okay, so that's about May issue versus shall issue, right?

01:23:37.000 The issue we're gonna have is New York State's gonna fight it, and they already are.

01:23:40.000 Yeah.

01:23:40.000 Right.

01:23:41.000 But they're gonna lose.

01:23:42.000 I think.

01:23:43.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 We'll see.

01:23:44.000 I think.

01:23:45.000 So this is basically, my understanding is the suit is some dude tried to buy a gun and they denied him, right?

01:23:52.000 They said he needed a valid reason.

01:23:54.000 Correct.

01:23:54.000 And he said, no I don't.

01:23:56.000 Now it's gone to the Supreme Court.

01:23:57.000 Correct.

01:23:58.000 And that's my entire point, right?

01:23:59.000 That should not be a thing.

01:24:01.000 If a county is going to deny you, they have to give you a reason why and you have to have an appeals process.

01:24:07.000 Let me tell everybody, you know, look, there are a lot of people on the establishment left side, they're anti-gun.

01:24:13.000 I think they don't know anything about guns for the most part.

01:24:16.000 There's a lot of these people who claim to, like, I served in the Marines, I know about guns.

01:24:19.000 And it's just like, then you hear them talk and they don't.

01:24:21.000 Right.

01:24:22.000 Like one guy, I think it was like an accountant and he has like a Twitter account where he talks about, I was a Marine and they made me lock my gun in a locker.

01:24:27.000 And it's like, dude, you were an accountant.

01:24:28.000 But anyway, here's what I want people to understand about Maryland and New Jersey, as I was told.

01:24:35.000 So when I was in New Jersey, I was like, I want to buy a gun because we had an issue.

01:24:40.000 Someone tried breaking in the house and stuff like that.

01:24:42.000 Ouch.

01:24:43.000 And I was told New Jersey is a may-issue state, but it's actually a no-issue, meaning any person who applies for a concealed carry permit, because you can't open carry at all.

01:24:51.000 It's got to be concealed.

01:24:53.000 They will just deny you.

01:24:55.000 It'll never happen.

01:24:56.000 And then I was told, but for you, Mr. Poole, oh, you'll be fine.

01:25:01.000 They will get you through no problem.

01:25:03.000 Why?

01:25:03.000 Well, you're famous.

01:25:04.000 Yes.

01:25:05.000 The powerful, the elites, the famous, the politicians, people with money, you don't gotta worry your pretty little face about it.

01:25:12.000 I was told the same thing about Maryland.

01:25:14.000 Maryland is very strict.

01:25:16.000 They say it's a may issue, but it's actually a no issue.

01:25:20.000 And then they go, oh, but for you, don't worry about it.

01:25:23.000 So you get these politicians in these states, like in Chicago, this was a big, big issue everybody gets pissed off about.

01:25:28.000 Politicians all have armed, they're armed, they have armed security.

01:25:32.000 They get all that stuff and then take your right to defend yourself away.

01:25:37.000 We can't have it that way.

01:25:37.000 Well, I do want to go one step further.

01:25:39.000 I want to allow local people to be happy locally.

01:25:44.000 And a lot of times you find a lot of people, particularly in cities, who really are happy with only the cops having guns.

01:25:53.000 So, I want to be easier on localization.

01:25:56.000 Meaning, I want to have a floor that is just fair to all gun owners.

01:26:01.000 And then each county can loosen those as they see fit.

01:26:06.000 And then we move towards looser and looser.

01:26:08.000 And why do we do that?

01:26:09.000 Because there's a cultural issue that we have to deal with.

01:26:12.000 Guns aren't a logical issue. 0.94

01:26:14.000 They're a cultural issue.

01:26:16.000 People, to your point, don't understand guns.

01:26:16.000 Right?

01:26:19.000 Most people in cities look at the safe act and go, well, it's been keeping us safe.

01:26:23.000 Well, it says safe in the name.

01:26:23.000 How do you know?

01:26:25.000 I'm not joking.

01:26:26.000 I've heard that more than once.

01:26:28.000 Like, that's a thing.

01:26:29.000 They don't know what it's done.

01:26:30.000 They don't know what's in it.

01:26:31.000 They have no idea.

01:26:32.000 They just go, well, no guns because I don't want people to be shot.

01:26:35.000 Many of them are good people who just don't know what guns do, don't know the value of them, and just go, I don't like guns because scary.

01:26:43.000 So we have to turn them and show them that there are times when a firearm is a very good idea.

01:26:48.000 An example I will often give is something like, let's say you're a small statured woman and you have a large statured boyfriend who has beaten you and now he goes away to jail and now he's out.

01:27:01.000 And you'd like to have a firearm to protect yourself.

01:27:03.000 Now, I'm not saying you should, but maybe you want to.

01:27:05.000 Again, your choice.

01:27:07.000 Second Amendment is not a requirement.

01:27:09.000 It is a right.

01:27:09.000 If you want to, you can.

01:27:10.000 If you don't want to, please don't ever use them if you don't want to.

01:27:13.000 You can't.

01:27:15.000 I remember the story I'll give often.

01:27:15.000 Right?

01:27:15.000 You can't.

01:27:18.000 By the way, I don't own a firearm.

01:27:19.000 Very often, I support things that don't affect me.

01:27:22.000 I live in New York City.

01:27:24.000 I can't own a firearm, realistically, right?

01:27:26.000 So I don't own a firearm in New York City.

01:27:28.000 I support family law reform.

01:27:30.000 I've never been to the family law system.

01:27:32.000 So I support cannabis.

01:27:33.000 I don't do any weed.

01:27:34.000 So all that stuff.

01:27:35.000 But my point being, a story I'll tell you.

01:27:37.000 When I was a teacher, there was a woman who was a complete pacifist. 1.00

01:27:40.000 And I mean total pacifist. 0.85

01:27:41.000 And of course, someone said, well, what if you were raped? 0.94

01:27:44.000 Of course, that question would come up. 0.90

01:27:44.000 Right? 0.90

01:27:46.000 And she was very forward.

01:27:47.000 She goes, no, no. 0.97

01:27:48.000 If I was raped, I still would never want to kill anybody. 0.97

01:27:50.000 Never. 0.97

01:27:51.000 I want to talk my way out of it.

01:27:52.000 And she goes, I was in that situation before and I did.

01:27:54.000 And someone said, well, what if you couldn't?

01:27:56.000 It's her word. 1.00

01:27:57.000 She said, well, I'd rather be raped. 1.00

01:27:59.000 She was, I'd rather deal with that trauma than the trauma of taking a life. 1.00

01:28:02.000 And I said, okay, okay.

01:28:03.000 Then I stepped in.

01:28:04.000 I said, okay, but would you stop someone else from pulling a gun and shooting the guy?

01:28:08.000 She said, no.

01:28:09.000 Wow.

01:28:10.000 I said, we're good.

01:28:11.000 Then we're good.

01:28:12.000 You live your rules.

01:28:13.000 I'll live mine, right? 1.00

01:28:14.000 I want to shoot the guy, but that's fine. 1.00

01:28:16.000 That's me. 1.00

01:28:17.000 She doesn't.

01:28:18.000 I'm not here to judge her.

01:28:19.000 I'm here to not enforce my rules on her and don't let her enforce her rules on me.

01:28:24.000 Well, so over at Freedomistan, we're actually implementing a gun mandate.

01:28:24.000 And we're good.

01:28:29.000 You'll be required to have proof of a gun.

01:28:31.000 Proof that you own, purchase, and carry a gun.

01:28:34.000 And it must be loaded.

01:28:35.000 Got it.

01:28:35.000 So when you're walking and you'll need to show us, you know, clear the chamber, and then show us the magazine, put it in, and then you can come in.

01:28:42.000 Gotcha.

01:28:42.000 But if it saves one life.

01:28:45.000 Exactly.

01:28:45.000 Then we have to do it.

01:28:46.000 Agreed.

01:28:46.000 Yeah.

01:28:47.000 Agreed.

01:28:48.000 We made these stickers for TimCast.com that looks like the vaccine card that says proof of gun.

01:28:52.000 And then some people were like, is this like a database?

01:28:55.000 And I'm like, no, no, no.

01:28:56.000 It's like you literally write down on it is a joke.

01:28:58.000 Right.

01:28:59.000 It's not registered with anybody.

01:28:59.000 A gun.

01:29:01.000 You keep it.

01:29:01.000 It's yours.

01:29:02.000 No one files it.

01:29:03.000 My concern with guns in New York City, maybe you guys can talk me through this, is that what if like groups of kids or young people all are armed and then they get into a fight and it's like, well, he provoked it.

01:29:12.000 Bang, bang, bang. 0.89

01:29:12.000 And then bullets go flying through a window. 0.89

01:29:14.000 You mean what's happening right now?

01:29:16.000 Times 10.

01:29:17.000 Why would you put 10s?

01:29:18.000 Because the woman in the house that gets a gun to defend herself can't defend herself from a bullet that went flying eight houses down. 0.54

01:29:24.000 But you just said times 10.

01:29:25.000 My question was, how do you know it'll be times 10?

01:29:27.000 More guns on the street.

01:29:28.000 I would imagine that it's more likely for people to have them.

01:29:31.000 I'm glad you said that.

01:29:32.000 You would imagine.

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 That's correct.

01:29:34.000 This is my fear of why I haven't gotten fully behind this thing yet.

01:29:38.000 And I respect his fear.

01:29:39.000 And that's why I'm saying I wouldn't force that issue upon him.

01:29:41.000 Because his fear is a common one.

01:29:43.000 Right?

01:29:44.000 I get that completely.

01:29:45.000 What I'm saying is if you look at where, where does all the increase, massive increase in violence come from?

01:29:51.000 Only one thing.

01:29:52.000 Not guns.

01:29:53.000 Black market.

01:29:54.000 Black market is what causes all the extra violence. 0.81

01:29:56.000 It isn't extra guns on the street.

01:29:58.000 That's not what it's about.

01:29:59.000 In New York City last weekend, I think it was seven people were stabbed?

01:30:03.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 Does anyone know this? No, because it's not guns. Seven people were stabbed. I need common sense

01:30:08.000 knife control. Right? Is that what we're looking for? Black market is what makes it. You get people 1.00

01:30:13.000 out of the black market, you will have less, you will have less people dying. And black market,

01:30:19.000 because of the COVID lockdowns, went not just to drugs, went to labor, went to resources,

01:30:25.000 went to, went to products, went to all types of things.

01:30:28.000 Black market went everywhere.

01:30:30.000 People were worried about robbing lumber trucks.

01:30:33.000 That's how bad it was in the black market.

01:30:35.000 And I'll make this point for you too, Ian.

01:30:37.000 An armed society is a polite society. 0.94

01:30:39.000 One of the reasons why these shootouts happen is because oftentimes these fights break out, people, they know no one else is armed.

01:30:46.000 There's no risk to them when they are breaking the law with a weapon they know no one else can have.

01:30:51.000 So it's kind of like, you've created a system in a city like New York or Chicago, where people who don't care to go to prison, because they have gangs in the prisons, they can operate there, same as any other place.

01:31:03.000 I know, I've met a lot of people who, the attitude on the South side of Chicago was always like, I haven't gone to jail yet.

01:31:10.000 So they assumed it was gonna happen.

01:31:12.000 So for them it was like, you get your gun, and guess what?

01:31:15.000 Here's the best part, ain't nobody else got him.

01:31:17.000 So if you get mad at someone and you're in a fight and you use it, you don't gotta worry about anybody else.

01:31:21.000 But what do you think happens if you're in a city where everyone is armed?

01:31:26.000 Okay, now there's still going to be violence.

01:31:28.000 Violence happens.

01:31:29.000 But, now you're going to have these guys being like, dude, we're in a city block where there's a thousand people.

01:31:34.000 We are going to get riddled with bullets.

01:31:36.000 We are going to be surrounded by people, armed, confronting us.

01:31:39.000 The problem right now in Chicago is a guy gets a gun, they go, strap!

01:31:42.000 And everyone runs away.

01:31:43.000 That wouldn't happen if everybody was armed.

01:31:45.000 Nobody's going to pull out a gun when everyone else is going to point one back at you.

01:31:48.000 Well, let me give you some data for you.

01:31:51.000 People who are legal gun owners, statistically, commit less crimes.

01:31:55.000 It's a fact, you can take it any way you want.

01:31:56.000 They commit less crimes.

01:31:57.000 If you are a legal gun owner, statistically, you will commit less crimes.

01:32:00.000 Is this minus the crime of possession?

01:32:04.000 Even that, because possession isn't a crime because you own it legally.

01:32:07.000 So possession isn't a crime, right, because you own it legally.

01:32:09.000 So by default, you're going to have less crime, number one.

01:32:14.000 Number two, the reason why there's so much violence and why they're shooting in the streets is because it's worth it.

01:32:20.000 Why?

01:32:20.000 The black market.

01:32:22.000 If it was easy to shoot people, wouldn't people in the states that have lax gun laws be shooting people all day long?

01:32:29.000 They're not!

01:32:30.000 There's not a reason to do so.

01:32:32.000 In other words, if I know... The reason why the black market is so bad and they need violence is, there's no cops in courts. 0.95

01:32:39.000 We have no cops and courts in the black market.

01:32:40.000 Right now, if he buys something from me and he doesn't pay me, I can sue him.

01:32:46.000 I can call the cops if he steals something.

01:32:48.000 We're in a black market, I can't.

01:32:51.000 So what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna get Tim, say get your firearm, let's go teach him a lesson.

01:32:54.000 And I'm gonna do it in the middle of the day because I want you to see it.

01:33:00.000 Austin, big city, Texas is now a constitutional carry state.

01:33:04.000 Why is that Chicago and New York are the stories of violence?

01:33:07.000 Why is that Chicago has some of the highest rates of gun violence or Baltimore?

01:33:11.000 Texas and Florida.

01:33:12.000 You can own guns there.

01:33:13.000 We're not seeing it.

01:33:14.000 I'll give you why Chicago's so bad.

01:33:16.000 Chicago's so bad because the federal government's so bad.

01:33:19.000 As a general rule, what happens in any black market is you create, like anything else, one or two.

01:33:24.000 You create a Pepsi and a Coke, right?

01:33:26.000 A McDonald's and a Burger King.

01:33:27.000 Same thing in the black market.

01:33:28.000 There's usually two gangs.

01:33:29.000 Crips and Bloods, whatever, right?

01:33:30.000 There's always two gangs.

01:33:31.000 So when there's two gangs, there's only one border.

01:33:34.000 So you only have violence when there's a border skirmish along that one border.

01:33:37.000 So there's not that much violence.

01:33:39.000 But the federal government's been so good, they actually go in and infiltrated all of these gangs.

01:33:43.000 Broken them all up.

01:33:45.000 There's not two gangs now.

01:33:46.000 No one trusts anybody.

01:33:47.000 Now there's 300 gangs.

01:33:49.000 Which makes 300 borders, which makes 300 border clashes, which increases the violence.

01:33:54.000 It makes more than 300.

01:33:56.000 It's like 300 times 299 times 298.

01:33:58.000 Thank you!

01:33:58.000 That's the number you're gonna get.

01:33:59.000 Yes, and let me add this point too, and then we'll go to Super Chats.

01:34:02.000 So there was recently a Black Lives Matter activist who was arrested for the attempted assassination of a Democratic candidate.

01:34:09.000 He walked into the office of this candidate, allegedly, someone did.

01:34:14.000 Pulled out a Glock 9mm and fired several shots and did not hit a single person.

01:34:20.000 He decided to use a handgun.

01:34:22.000 He clearly didn't know how to use, and people don't understand because they watch movies.

01:34:26.000 Yes.

01:34:26.000 Hitting someone with a handgun is not easy, even at close ranges.

01:34:31.000 If this person was not able to have the weapon, if he decided to go with a knife instead, we'd be dealing with an assassination, not an attempted assassination.

01:34:41.000 He walked in, they said, how can we help you?

01:34:42.000 He pulled the gun and he fired.

01:34:44.000 And there's a lot of mistakes people make when they're first getting started with handguns and they don't know how to use one.

01:34:50.000 Mistakes that I'm not good with handgun at all.

01:34:52.000 So one of the mistakes people make is that when they're pulling the trigger, they pull their hand, causing the barrel to point in the wrong direction.

01:34:58.000 They think they're pointing it, but they squeeze and they point to the side.

01:35:00.000 So all that happened was the bullet grazed.

01:35:03.000 If that guy had a knife or a machete and he walked in and walked up to the guy and then just pulled it out, knives can be way more dangerous in different circumstances.

01:35:12.000 It's the funny thing when people make that joke, bringing a knife to a gunfight, and it's like, depending on the range, a knife is more deadly.

01:35:20.000 Mythbusters did this.

01:35:21.000 I think it's within 21 yards, a knife is more deadly than a handgun.

01:35:26.000 Every soldier has a knife at their gunfights.

01:35:29.000 I mean, you gotta have a knife on you at some point.

01:35:31.000 But let me give you a close range, you're probably better off using the knife.

01:35:33.000 I'm gonna cover one piece if I could, and that is school shootings.

01:35:37.000 To Tim's point, if everyone knows there's no guns in school, that's when you go shoot the school up, right?

01:35:44.000 So when schools started defending themselves against school shootings, what started happening?

01:35:48.000 They started shooting churches.

01:35:50.000 Right?

01:35:50.000 People are going to soft targets.

01:35:52.000 The thing to remember with any type of school shooting or mass killing like this, it is not, while it's a murder, it's actually a public suicide.

01:36:00.000 Right?

01:36:00.000 That's what it really is at its core, right?

01:36:02.000 As you reduce it, it's a public suicide.

01:36:03.000 The person knows they're going to be finished and they're going out in a blaze of glory in some way, shape, or form.

01:36:07.000 And where do they go?

01:36:08.000 To a soft target.

01:36:10.000 So people said, Larry, how can you stop school shootings in 2018?

01:36:13.000 And what I said was, make a very simple rule.

01:36:16.000 If you are a teacher or an administrator, if you want to carry and you're licensed to carry, you may.

01:36:24.000 That's it!

01:36:25.000 You don't have to carry, not required.

01:36:27.000 If you're a pacifist, please don't, but you may.

01:36:29.000 People said, no, you gotta have armed guards.

01:36:31.000 Okay, you should do armed guard first, or the armed guard runs away.

01:36:34.000 But if I don't know who's carrying, I can't plan because I don't know who's carrying.

01:36:40.000 If I can't plan, it is a hard target.

01:36:43.000 I won't pick that target.

01:36:44.000 Now that is only a band-aid because the problem is kids wanting to kill themselves.

01:36:47.000 But if I just became out of schools, I make the schools a hard target.

01:36:51.000 So everyone's correcting me.

01:36:53.000 It's 21 feet!

01:36:55.000 Ah, not yards.

01:36:56.000 I misspoke.

01:36:56.000 Yeah, I was thinking 7.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, it's 7 yards.

01:36:59.000 7 yards.

01:37:00.000 Uh, 21 feet.

01:37:01.000 I was, I was, uh, I misspoke.

01:37:04.000 Yeah, the guy from the Mythbusters.

01:37:06.000 These are not in-shape guys.

01:37:08.000 They did, they had this thing where he had a sensor on a foam, you know, knife.

01:37:12.000 And then the other guy had to target him with a laser.

01:37:13.000 He'd pull the gun out and it would click a laser.

01:37:15.000 And then even this guy, these two guys who are very much out of shape.

01:37:19.000 The one guy was able to run 21 feet and poke him, you know, with the sensor before the gun could even be pulled out.

01:37:24.000 Did you do a lot of knife training in the military?

01:37:26.000 No, hardly any.

01:37:27.000 Well, we gotta go to Super Chats, though.

01:37:28.000 So we'll take questions there.

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01:37:38.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.

01:37:39.000 We really appreciate your support.

01:37:39.000 But let's read what people have to say.

01:37:42.000 We got Chris Stark, he says.

01:37:44.000 Some real Wag the Dog vibes going on with Ukraine and the U.S. 0.66

01:37:48.000 right now.

01:37:49.000 Wow, right on.

01:37:51.000 Ray P says, Viva Frye over 43,000 watching on Rumble House of Common Voting.

01:37:55.000 Wow, amazing.

01:37:56.000 They sure did.

01:37:57.000 That's amazing.

01:37:58.000 Good job, Viva.

01:37:59.000 He's doing a great job.

01:38:02.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:38:05.000 RJ Phoenix says, if we were in the 80s, the CIA would be sending arms to Canadian citizens.

01:38:11.000 I don't know about Canada, but point taken, point taken.

01:38:15.000 Bill Hughes says, armed Portland Antifa pick fight with violent biker gang, then blame police when things get violent.

01:38:21.000 PJ Media.

01:38:22.000 Is that what they're saying?

01:38:23.000 Is that what happened?

01:38:25.000 I don't know.

01:38:27.000 Clayton Johnson says, Canada needs a new government.

01:38:30.000 Honk for American truckers.

01:38:31.000 Lockdown DC, war in Ukraine is an easy way to destroy Burisma records.

01:38:35.000 That's what I'm worried about.

01:38:37.000 They announced that with the threat of war, the American embassy in Ukraine started destroying computer records.

01:38:43.000 I'm like, why would they do that?

01:38:44.000 They have all the time in the world.

01:38:45.000 They can put them in a car and just drive them to Lviv or something.

01:38:49.000 Yeah.

01:38:50.000 And they're in Kiev.

01:38:52.000 Oh, they probably transferred the data and then destroyed it and just told everyone they destroyed it.

01:38:57.000 I don't know, man.

01:38:57.000 I don't trust this guy, this Biden guy.

01:39:01.000 I don't trust him at all.

01:39:03.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:39:05.000 Let's get some more Super Chats in here.

01:39:08.000 Dylan Waugh says, Tim, would you be interested in getting someone on the front lines in Ukraine and other conflict areas for reporting?

01:39:14.000 I'm an infantry veteran and emailed pitches if I could provide this for Timcast.

01:39:19.000 Maybe!

01:39:19.000 I don't know if we're quite at the point where Timcast.com can be funding war correspondence, to be completely honest, but we'd certainly love to.

01:39:27.000 We are working on a plan for following the U.S. 0.61

01:39:29.000 Freedom Convoy, so we can have someone there documenting it.

01:39:32.000 It's gonna be expensive, man.

01:39:34.000 You guys gotta understand, um, look, If we're talking about what is it?

01:39:38.000 What is it?

01:39:38.000 A six day, you know, like four or five day drive?

01:39:41.000 Oh, at least.

01:39:41.000 Yeah.

01:39:42.000 So you've got car rental.

01:39:44.000 How much do you think that's going to run?

01:39:45.000 It's like $300.

01:39:45.000 Right now?

01:39:46.000 A fortune.

01:39:46.000 A small fortune.

01:39:48.000 Food expenses.

01:39:49.000 We're talking it might be like $10,000 to $15,000.

01:39:52.000 Just to hire someone, to give them the resources to do this.

01:39:55.000 It might even be 20, to be fair.

01:39:56.000 Because if we're talking about their personal compensation, their food, you need more than one person.

01:40:00.000 You can't send one person on their own.

01:40:02.000 We want to do this.

01:40:03.000 This stuff can be expensive.

01:40:04.000 But you don't got to worry about it.

01:40:05.000 I'm just saying, just keep in mind those kinds of prices for this kind of reporting, because we're doing it.

01:40:10.000 And that's what being a member makes happen.

01:40:13.000 So I'm super excited for this, to be able to get like, you know, dispatches every day from the U.S.

01:40:18.000 Freedom Convoys.

01:40:18.000 It makes its way to D.C.

01:40:19.000 It's going to be wonderful.

01:40:20.000 More insurance too.

01:40:20.000 More insurance.

01:40:21.000 Oh yeah!

01:40:22.000 More equipment, sure.

01:40:24.000 We're talking about equipment that costs thousands of dollars, insurance for the equipment, fuel, food, hotel stays, all that stuff.

01:40:34.000 I mean, we can work on low budgets for sure, but there's a minimum, man.

01:40:40.000 People want to be able to get paid to do their jobs, right?

01:40:43.000 Garrett Savant says, we are in a lukewarm war.

01:40:46.000 I actually agree with that.

01:40:48.000 It's not cold.

01:40:49.000 It's not hot. 0.98

01:40:51.000 That's why it sucks so bad. 0.91

01:40:53.000 It's not hot and it's not cold. 1.00

01:40:55.000 It just sucks. 0.98

01:40:55.000 You can't tell because that's the frog in the pot. 0.98

01:40:57.000 If they change the temperature slowly enough, you don't realize it's changing.

01:41:00.000 Oh, I like that analogy.

01:41:02.000 Good analogy.

01:41:03.000 So we won't know when it's a hot war because it's going so slow.

01:41:05.000 That's good.

01:41:06.000 I like that.

01:41:07.000 Well, you know, the way I often describe it is that when we read history, it's condensed.

01:41:12.000 You know, we talk about the American Revolution.

01:41:14.000 It took 20 years.

01:41:15.000 Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre, three years apart.

01:41:18.000 You know, these things happen in Boston.

01:41:19.000 It's like, yeah, overall, three years, man.

01:41:22.000 The speed of communications was very slow, but it could be that with rapid communications, it's speeding up dramatically.

01:41:27.000 So, that seems to be something.

01:41:29.000 Thank you very much.

01:41:30.000 We have a lot of guns and a lot of ammo.

01:41:31.000 Ammunition, please stock up everyone. Love you guys telling the truth and exposing the lies all hail the beanie

01:41:36.000 Thank you very much. We have a lot of guns and a lot of ammo

01:41:40.000 Like I have an obscene amount because I was just like I don't know. I guess it did

01:41:43.000 You know, these guns are cool. So I just bought a whole bunch

01:41:46.000 Yeah, I was like, went to the gun store, and he's like, do you have a 5-7?

01:41:48.000 I just throw it on the pile, and, you know, well, it's a big ol' pile, it's massive.

01:41:53.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.

01:41:54.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

01:41:57.000 I miss guns.

01:41:57.000 I used to work in armory.

01:42:00.000 So I don't get to deal with them anymore.

01:42:06.000 Yes they did.

01:42:09.000 I think when this guy said in the 80s or the 90s the United States would be in there is like I had this thought last night like at what point are we gonna step in and stop a fascist I don't see the trucker here in the U.S.

01:42:18.000 a dictatorship. That's our job. That's the whole point of the United States is we prevent

01:42:22.000 that and for them not to even say anything about what Trudeau just did. Maybe I'm maybe

01:42:26.000 I've got the wrong perspective and it's I don't have enough info, but it feels like

01:42:30.000 they're going to do that here now for these truckers. They're going to come down with

01:42:33.000 a hard boot. They're prepared and throw all these guys in solitary. That's terrifying.

01:42:38.000 I don't I don't see the trucker here in in in US. I don't see that truck convoy working.

01:42:44.000 I can't imagine.

01:42:45.000 I can't imagine that DC will let that happen.

01:42:49.000 Yeah.

01:42:49.000 I just think somehow they're going to stop them, whether it's a physical barrier, put them in jail, take all their money somehow.

01:42:56.000 January 6th.

01:42:57.000 January 6th, whatever.

01:42:58.000 I think they'll do something.

01:42:59.000 I can't imagine it happening.

01:43:01.000 The cops in DC will gas their own residence if it means getting rid of this.

01:43:07.000 When you make a surprise attack in the military, you don't repeat the endeavor the next day.

01:43:11.000 Like, they're ready for you now.

01:43:13.000 Right.

01:43:13.000 That's what this feels like.

01:43:14.000 Yes.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, but the Freedom Convoy, don't underestimate the U.S.

01:43:19.000 Convoy as well.

01:43:21.000 We can't just assume they're going to be like, we've not thought about any of that stuff.

01:43:23.000 Yeah, I don't want to be the no-don't guy.

01:43:25.000 No, I think they're probably going to be like, I'm willing to bet the Freedom Convoy's got plans for all this stuff.

01:43:31.000 And for the most part, it's symbolic protest, non-violent, peaceful, non-violent civil disobedience.

01:43:37.000 I'm sure many of the truckers are like, We're going to pull our trucks up, the cops are going to come and arrest in tow, and we're going to make our point.

01:43:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:44.000 I don't think that these guys are just like, wow, I didn't realize there would be police who could arrest us.

01:43:50.000 I think they get it.

01:43:50.000 I think they saw what happened in Canada.

01:43:52.000 But we'll see.

01:43:53.000 I got to be honest.

01:43:54.000 I'm willing to bet these guys, look, these truckers know, they got strategy.

01:43:58.000 Truck drivers talk to each other.

01:44:00.000 They know what's up.

01:44:02.000 For all we know, they're sitting back with their feet up like, y'all ain't seen nothing.

01:44:06.000 Yeah, if they really wanted to destroy the economy, they could do it subtly, where you don't know, they're not hitting their mark on accident every day.

01:44:13.000 I don't think the truckers want to destroy the economy.

01:44:14.000 I don't think they want to destroy the economy.

01:44:15.000 They're making a point with a protest that happens to be detrimental to the economy, but that's not the focus is to disrupt the economy.

01:44:21.000 The focus is to end the mandates.

01:44:24.000 But I think there's the power, right?

01:44:25.000 If they actually were to somehow insinuate, okay, if you stop this convoy, there's a whole bunch of truckers going to stop working tomorrow.

01:44:34.000 If the truckers stop working, this country's in trouble.

01:44:37.000 We do not have an infrastructure that isn't road-based.

01:44:40.000 Our infrastructure is road-based in every way, shape and form.

01:44:44.000 So if the truckers don't move stuff, stuff doesn't get moved.

01:44:48.000 There's no option other than trucks.

01:44:51.000 So if they decide, well, we're out.

01:44:52.000 We're not gonna work for five days or whatever.

01:44:55.000 Imagine if all of a sudden FedEx, UPS, all those guys, there's no one-day shipping all of a sudden anymore, right?

01:45:00.000 For the next five days.

01:45:01.000 We can't get stuff.

01:45:03.000 I mean, that seriously affects the country.

01:45:05.000 That, I think, in my view, that's their trump card.

01:45:08.000 All right, B Rizzle says, left my legs in Afghanistan for nothing.

01:45:12.000 I'd prefer it have been for something worthwhile.

01:45:15.000 All good, though.

01:45:16.000 I'm with you, brother.

01:45:17.000 Yut Ton Tavern.

01:45:19.000 Ton Tavern is where the Marine Corps was started in 1775.

01:45:22.000 Number 10, 1775 in Ton Tavern in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

01:45:26.000 That's to me.

01:45:27.000 I get it completely.

01:45:29.000 1775?

01:45:29.000 1775.

01:45:29.000 Wow.

01:45:29.000 In a tavern.

01:45:31.000 So what was it like?

01:45:32.000 Captain Samuel, is that right?

01:45:34.000 Captain Samuel, I believe, was the gentleman who started it in Ton Tavern.

01:45:38.000 What's the story there?

01:45:39.000 Why did he think they needed a new range?

01:45:41.000 The naval personnel know how to fire cannons, and they know how to sail.

01:45:46.000 They don't know how to ship-to-ship fight.

01:45:48.000 Marines were created to ship-to-ship fight.

01:45:51.000 That's why we have the leather neck.

01:45:52.000 We used to cross over with pistol and saber.

01:45:55.000 We'd fight ship-to-ship and the saber was to block the saber battle.

01:45:59.000 Oh, look at that!

01:45:59.000 Also, if you notice, the top of a Marine Corps hat cover has a cross on it.

01:46:06.000 That was so that Marine Corps snipers would know who to shoot.

01:46:08.000 Oh my goodness. 0.99

01:46:08.000 Right, they see the cross, don't shoot him, shoot that guy. 0.99

01:46:11.000 That was the purpose of the cross on top of that.

01:46:13.000 Everything in the Marine Corps you see is tradition.

01:46:16.000 Remember, naval forces, and Marines are naval forces, are based on tradition.

01:46:21.000 They're always more conservative.

01:46:22.000 Yes, they're always based on that.

01:46:24.000 To this day, I still remember my sword manual.

01:46:26.000 I could still do sword manual for my Marine Corps sword.

01:46:29.000 I could still do it.

01:46:29.000 An NCO is supposed to learn sword manual, which is not for fighting.

01:46:32.000 It's for a parade.

01:46:33.000 All right.

01:46:34.000 Jay Schartzer says, thanks for having on Larry.

01:46:36.000 He's a pretty sharp guy as far as jarheads go.

01:46:39.000 Can't wait to see the impact you make going forward.

01:46:41.000 Semper Fi, brother.

01:46:42.000 Semper Fi.

01:46:43.000 Semper Fi is the Marine Corps motto.

01:46:44.000 It means always faithful.

01:46:46.000 It's Semper Fidelis, cut down to Semper Fi.

01:46:49.000 Sterling Wilson says, Larry Sharpe for president.

01:46:51.000 Tell that brother to run. 0.87

01:46:54.000 Well, there you go, man.

01:46:55.000 One step at a time.

01:46:56.000 He's running.

01:46:57.000 Zero Beat says, correction, it was the House of Commons, not Parliament, the House of Commons, they're the ones who passed the emergency powers.

01:47:04.000 That's amazing.

01:47:05.000 I loved it because we had, when we had Stephen Marsh here from, you know, he wrote that book, The Next Civil War.

01:47:10.000 He said, well, we have martial law in Canada now.

01:47:14.000 They can just freeze your bank account without a court order.

01:47:16.000 And I'm like, well, you know, we agree that's a problem, right?

01:47:18.000 He's not a fan of the trucker convoy, but he certainly, when you get people who are opposed to the trucker convoy, To a certain degree, I think.

01:47:25.000 I don't think he's like a, you know, I don't think he's, I don't want to say he's like ardently opposed to it.

01:47:29.000 He's probably just like, I don't like these guys, you know, but when he comes out and he's like, wow, martial law over this, you know, you got a government problem.

01:47:36.000 Do you remember the movie Gandhi?

01:47:38.000 Ben Kingsley.

01:47:39.000 I've never seen it.

01:47:41.000 One of the greatest movies ever made.

01:47:42.000 Great movie.

01:47:43.000 At one point, Gandhi wants to make a march on a salt mine, which is run by the British Empire.

01:47:49.000 They own all the salt in India because they're the empire. 0.60

01:47:52.000 So they're going to do a march on the salt mine.

01:47:55.000 The Brits want to stop them, so they arrest Gandhi.

01:47:57.000 The Indians march anyway. 0.96

01:48:00.000 My point about a movement being stronger than a leader, right?

01:48:02.000 The Indians march anyway. 0.96

01:48:03.000 They're all dressed in white, in a line, and they march towards this thing, and there are soldiers there with sticks, and they beat them. 0.55

01:48:11.000 As they walk up, get beaten.

01:48:13.000 Walk up, get beaten. 0.78

01:48:14.000 Walk up, get beaten. 0.96

01:48:15.000 And the women are grabbing them, and they're all bloody. 0.90

01:48:17.000 And that was a time where a reporter says, this is where the West has lost everything.

01:48:24.000 You just sat there and you beat unarmed people over salt.

01:48:27.000 And I think this might be the case in Canada.

01:48:30.000 If we are so cruel against truckers, this may be that same moment where people go, they're just truckers!

01:48:36.000 They don't have weapons!

01:48:38.000 And you're destroying their entire livelihood!

01:48:41.000 I'm hoping that this is that.

01:48:43.000 That's why I'm telling people non-violence, disobedience.

01:48:45.000 Yes.

01:48:46.000 You look at January 6th and they won't shut up about the violence.

01:48:49.000 Yeah.

01:48:49.000 You look at the truckers and they're like, they're violent, racist, and none of it sticks.

01:48:53.000 It doesn't stick.

01:48:54.000 Because you got a bouncy castle and little kids playing and there's like little dogs and people are just walking around smiling and shaking hands.

01:49:00.000 What they're doing with these convoys is they're basically saying, this is our statement of no confidence.

01:49:05.000 And that's all.

01:49:06.000 They're not hurting anybody.

01:49:08.000 And boy, does the media try and lie, but it just doesn't stick.

01:49:11.000 Because If you don't have substance behind what you're saying, at least a little bit, then the people are just not willing to listen to your BS.

01:49:20.000 I've seen these videos where there's a guy banging a pot in a pan, and it's being shared by all these establishment activists and journalists, and they were trying to insinuate violence, and I'm like, yo, it's people arguing.

01:49:32.000 It happens outside my house.

01:49:34.000 What is this?

01:49:35.000 The violence didn't happen.

01:49:37.000 They try and lie, man.

01:49:38.000 All right, Mr. Obvious says, this guy is too smart to be a politician.

01:49:42.000 Today I feel proud to call myself a libertarian.

01:49:45.000 Oh, nice.

01:49:46.000 Very cool.

01:49:47.000 I'm winning.

01:49:48.000 Yeah.

01:49:49.000 Morgan Dossett says, the 82nd Airborne sent troops to Poland weeks ago.

01:49:52.000 The MSM says to help train.

01:49:55.000 But as an 82nd veteran, we aren't trained in that manner.

01:49:58.000 You can fact check me by the 82nd Airborne Facebook page.

01:50:00.000 So is that to imply that they're being sent there to fight?

01:50:03.000 Interesting.

01:50:04.000 Yeah, 82nd Airborne is not a training unit.

01:50:06.000 That's a fighting unit.

01:50:06.000 It's an elite unit.

01:50:07.000 Wow.

01:50:08.000 The 82nd Airborne is an elite unit.

01:50:09.000 They're paratroopers.

01:50:11.000 They're not there to train, right?

01:50:13.000 They might, in theory, they could send some of their non-commissioned officers over, you know, to help train Poles.

01:50:18.000 That might happen.

01:50:18.000 But they send a unit over?

01:50:20.000 That's not a training unit.

01:50:21.000 Yeah.

01:50:22.000 He's right.

01:50:24.000 Okay, let's see what we got.

01:50:27.000 What is this one about?

01:50:28.000 All right, well, let's...

01:50:31.000 Grant Shearer says, World War III is nations vs. NGOs.

01:50:34.000 Battlefield is the culture.

01:50:37.000 Maybe.

01:50:38.000 Maybe.

01:50:39.000 Yeah.

01:50:40.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:50:42.000 says, MAGAfolk text me up with no actual substance.

01:50:45.000 Yeah.

01:50:46.000 I get the same stuff.

01:50:46.000 All the time.

01:50:47.000 And leftists too.

01:50:48.000 Yep.

01:50:48.000 Right?

01:50:49.000 The left is still... The left is very smart.

01:50:51.000 What they're very good at is getting people to be afraid of Trump.

01:50:56.000 So if Trump isn't running now, they call it Trumpism.

01:50:58.000 So it's Trump or, you know, Trumpism.

01:51:01.000 And the right has always stopped the culture war.

01:51:03.000 They're all fighting culture wars, right?

01:51:04.000 The culture war thing drives me crazy because that's how nothing gets solved.

01:51:09.000 And the next thing is, culture war makes the other inhuman.

01:51:14.000 And when it makes the other inhuman and a threat to everything, I can say or do whatever I want.

01:51:20.000 And I'm now justified.

01:51:21.000 But the real challenge is when you have two parent factions that don't speak the same language.

01:51:28.000 And the worst thing is, In the culture war in the US, and in Europe, you know, Canada and the UK, we speak a similar enough language to where we think we know what they're saying, but words mean different things.

01:51:43.000 Like racism means different things.

01:51:44.000 Freedom.

01:51:44.000 Left and right.

01:51:45.000 Right.

01:51:45.000 Yep.

01:51:46.000 Free speech.

01:51:48.000 Even in America, I have to change my language when I speak to a more left or right audience.

01:51:57.000 If I'm speaking to a more left audience, I'll use phrases like public assistance.

01:52:02.000 More right, I'll use welfare. 0.75

01:52:05.000 It's the same meaning, but each one hears it differently.

01:52:08.000 So you have to know your audience and use different phrases, different words.

01:52:11.000 It's important because then they'll hear you, right?

01:52:13.000 And you want to, I want to be able to connect and get people to see that I've got some substance.

01:52:17.000 So if I'm using trigger words, shuts them off.

01:52:20.000 So I've got to find the right words to use, depending upon the audience I'm talking to.

01:52:23.000 Yep, there are certain phrases and terms that signify if someone is left or right culture war.

01:52:30.000 I mean, obviously, asking pronouns is a dead giveaway of where you are and what you believe on a bunch of other issues.

01:52:35.000 Absolutely.

01:52:36.000 I'll go even smaller, saying the Democrat Party versus the Democratic Party.

01:52:39.000 Yep.

01:52:40.000 If you are right-leaning, you say Democrat Party.

01:52:42.000 If you are left-leaning, you say Democratic Party.

01:52:44.000 Even though the party's name is Democratic?

01:52:46.000 Mm-hmm.

01:52:47.000 That's literally the name of it?

01:52:48.000 Correct.

01:52:49.000 So you can say someone is a Democrat, but the party is legally identified as a Democratic.

01:52:54.000 But you will find most people who are right-leaning say the Democrat Party.

01:52:56.000 Yep.

01:52:57.000 Most people who are left-leaning will say Democratic Party.

01:52:58.000 I've had people get mad at me for calling it the Democratic Party.

01:53:00.000 Yes.

01:53:00.000 And I'm like, but that's its name.

01:53:01.000 Yes.

01:53:02.000 We don't call it like the Republicans or like the Republican Party.

01:53:06.000 The Republican Party.

01:53:07.000 The Republicans Party.

01:53:08.000 The Republics Party.

01:53:08.000 Yeah.

01:53:08.000 Yeah, the Republics Party.

01:53:09.000 Yeah.

01:53:10.000 All right.

01:53:11.000 Boxy Brown says the Bloodstripe story from the Battle of Chepultepec is wrong.

01:53:15.000 The red stripe was on the uniform two years after Jackson left office when Archibald Henderson returned it to dark blue coats.

01:53:21.000 Returned?

01:53:23.000 When Henderson returned it to dark blue coats faced red?

01:53:26.000 I don't know.

01:53:28.000 I'm not sure where that comes from.

01:53:30.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:53:31.000 Archibald, that's fifth commandant?

01:53:35.000 I think 5th or 7th Commandant.

01:53:36.000 I forgot which Commandant he was.

01:53:37.000 I think he was at one point he was Commandant in Marine Corps.

01:53:40.000 I forgot which one he was.

01:53:42.000 But if you turn the red coats inside out, they were blue and then there was red.

01:53:47.000 You can see the red there.

01:53:48.000 He may be meaning that.

01:53:49.000 You turn this stuff inside out and you see the red stripes inside.

01:53:53.000 They swapped out the red coats because we didn't have uniforms.

01:53:55.000 We'd see the red coats and turn them inside out.

01:53:58.000 Nick Crow says, I was deployed to Ukraine for a year.

01:54:01.000 I wish you could know the truth.

01:54:02.000 Just know Ukrainians die every day on the border and we should be supporting them. 1.00

01:54:08.000 I don't know about being there personally on the border, but I do have Ukrainian friends and, you know, talk to them about it.

01:54:15.000 But I guess it's always difficult because just because you're from there doesn't mean you know the truth either.

01:54:19.000 You know, it's very different.

01:54:20.000 You could be deployed to the border.

01:54:21.000 It's very, very different.

01:54:24.000 Okay, let's see what we got here.

01:54:27.000 Rilo says, hey Larry, I think Lewis Rossman of Rossman Repair Group supported you.

01:54:31.000 Lewis is also a lobbyist, I think, for right-to-repair legislation.

01:54:34.000 Can you make a comment on right-to-repair?

01:54:36.000 Yes.

01:54:37.000 Lewis is a friend of mine.

01:54:38.000 I was on his show.

01:54:39.000 He's out of Manhattan.

01:54:40.000 Yes, he's totally correct.

01:54:42.000 And he's trying his best to deal with right-to-repair.

01:54:45.000 And right-to-repair is a very tough issue, right?

01:54:47.000 Because what happens is you now have a piece of property that you purchased, but the software that runs the property is now owned by somebody else.

01:54:56.000 So then if you want to fix the thing, they go, no, no, no, no.

01:54:58.000 You own it, but you can't fix it.

01:55:00.000 But I own it.

01:55:01.000 So how can I not fix it?

01:55:03.000 And this is a problem.

01:55:04.000 So how do you fix that?

01:55:05.000 It's actually a very simple piece.

01:55:07.000 The business must decide, am I leasing this piece of equipment or do you own it?

01:55:13.000 Period.

01:55:14.000 That's it.

01:55:16.000 Do I own it?

01:55:16.000 Then I may repair it.

01:55:18.000 Am I leasing it?

01:55:19.000 Then you must fix it if it breaks.

01:55:21.000 Done deal.

01:55:22.000 You make a simple rule.

01:55:23.000 Are you leasing or are you purchasing?

01:55:26.000 Either one.

01:55:26.000 Change your business model to either one.

01:55:28.000 If I'm leasing this phone, it's broken.

01:55:30.000 Fix it.

01:55:32.000 I'm not leasing this phone.

01:55:33.000 I own it.

01:55:34.000 I can fix it if I want to.

01:55:35.000 It's a very simple fix.

01:55:37.000 So like one company can sell it when the other one can lease it and you get to pick?

01:55:40.000 Yes, what's better for you?

01:55:41.000 Or maybe the same company could have either plan.

01:55:44.000 Oh, cool.

01:55:44.000 Right?

01:55:44.000 A leasing plan or a purchasing plan.

01:55:46.000 If I purchase, I can fix it.

01:55:48.000 I own this piece.

01:55:49.000 I own it.

01:55:50.000 Well, I don't like it because my software's on it.

01:55:52.000 Then don't put your software on it or lease the software then and then you have to fix it.

01:55:57.000 People say that all the time, and yes, of course I want that.

01:56:04.000 I'm being realistic though.

01:56:06.000 I live in a state that believes, by every poll you can find, that most New Yorkers want more gun control, not less. Even upstate? Not upstate.

01:56:14.000 But again, most of the population is in the cities, right? People always say it's New York

01:56:18.000 City. It is. It's also Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Buffalo. All the cities are blue. They all

01:56:23.000 hate guns. And they're all violent, which is insane, but that's just what it is. So I have to

01:56:28.000 be realistic.

01:56:29.000 I have to go baby steps to constitutional carry.

01:56:32.000 Would I like to get there?

01:56:33.000 I would.

01:56:33.000 First step is ending red flag laws.

01:56:36.000 Second step is ending safe act.

01:56:38.000 Third step is constitutional carry.

01:56:40.000 We have steps to get there.

01:56:41.000 Yeah, I think people should understand, man.

01:56:43.000 For one, I'm 2A absolute.

01:56:46.000 The Constitution is the Constitution.

01:56:48.000 I certainly think there could be reasonable limits like owning nuclear weapons.

01:56:51.000 This is the one that got me in trouble.

01:56:53.000 All the outlets started yelling at me because I said, I think the Second Amendment protects the right to own nuclear weapons.

01:56:59.000 It says the right to keep and bear arms.

01:57:01.000 It's not about guns.

01:57:02.000 You're right.

01:57:02.000 It's not about guns.

01:57:03.000 And back then, privateers existed in Corsairs.

01:57:06.000 Private individuals owned warships that could flatten coastal cities.

01:57:09.000 And they were hired by multiple different kings and queens to do just that.

01:57:14.000 I don't think you have to.

01:57:15.000 There is an exception.

01:57:16.000 Martin and Raytheon and they certainly own very powerful explosives and weapons.

01:57:20.000 Individuals can too if private businesses can if they can make them all that stuff.

01:57:24.000 Now if you want to argue they shouldn't be allowed to it's like oh okay absolutely change

01:57:28.000 change constitution. I don't think you have to there is an exception if you could realistically

01:57:33.000 argue that owning a certain thing is actually a direct threat to others.

01:57:40.000 Now that would be an argument.

01:57:41.000 I'm not sure it's right, but that could be an argument.

01:57:43.000 For example, let's say I want to have, I don't know, chemical weapons in my backyard, right?

01:57:47.000 Someone could argue, yeah, but that's a threat.

01:57:49.000 If anything goes wrong, lightning strikes that thing, you know, if lightning strikes your ammo dump, Then your property is blown up.

01:57:57.000 I'm shaking my head.

01:57:58.000 But if lightning strikes your chemical plant, then everyone gets, you know, chemical weapons dropped on them for four miles away.

01:58:05.000 So I think that's an argument.

01:58:07.000 You could make an argument without having changed the constitution.

01:58:10.000 I disagree.

01:58:12.000 There's inherent risks to owning anything.

01:58:13.000 You can own a car.

01:58:17.000 Sure.

01:58:17.000 It's full of gasoline.

01:58:19.000 Absolutely.

01:58:19.000 And it could have a leak and a fire could start.

01:58:21.000 And you could be like, look, your ownership of combustibles is a threat to my home.

01:58:24.000 You could.

01:58:25.000 And I think that's why you have an argument.

01:58:26.000 I'm not saying it's absolute, but I'm thinking any given thing that has a realistic possibility of having mass killing, I think you can have an argument to decide, is this the thing?

01:58:39.000 Sure.

01:58:41.000 Where do we draw the line, right?

01:58:42.000 You gotta amend the Constitution.

01:58:43.000 I think you could have the argument without amending the Constitution.

01:58:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:58:46.000 I think you could.

01:58:48.000 But then, it's basically stating the Constitution doesn't matter.

01:58:52.000 No, I mean, free speech is not free speech.

01:58:54.000 If I threaten you, that's not free speech.

01:58:56.000 Right?

01:58:56.000 So, there are some... We have to draw a line on what's a threat.

01:59:00.000 Well, we draw a line on that.

01:59:01.000 Same thing, right?

01:59:02.000 But keeping and bearing arms is different from... So, like, speech is somewhat nebulous in that respect.

01:59:08.000 But there are people who are free speech absolutists that say speech is not action.

01:59:11.000 And I'm not that. I think if you're actively threatening people and you're making people

01:59:17.000 feel like you're actually going to hurt them or kill them, that to me isn't free speech. Particularly

01:59:21.000 if you're someone who is physically in some way smaller or what the case may be, I think there

01:59:26.000 is a point where you go, yeah, that's not, no, threatening is not an answer.

01:59:31.000 I disagree because right now we have a large political faction in this country that says words are violence, even if you don't actually threaten them.

01:59:39.000 You could say something like, I think X group is bad, and they'll say, that was a threat, that's violence, and you're making me unsafe.

01:59:45.000 So what, and I'm not allowed to say that?

01:59:47.000 That's exactly where they're going.

01:59:48.000 Yes, and that's a cultural issue.

01:59:50.000 Right.

01:59:51.000 And I think we have to change the culture.

01:59:53.000 But this is why we have a constitution.

01:59:55.000 To be a barrier against these dramatic changes that if you want to change it, you got to change the constitution.

02:00:01.000 I think instruction and incitement to violence is not free speech and... Well, you just said absolutist now.

02:00:08.000 I'm not an absolutist.

02:00:09.000 Okay.

02:00:10.000 Because my view is the First Amendment has some... It can be a bit nebulous in certain respects.

02:00:19.000 What is free speech?

02:00:20.000 What is the intent?

02:00:21.000 What is the right to the press?

02:00:23.000 It's about self-expression, specifically.

02:00:25.000 The right to keep and bear arms is about defending the country from threats, foreign and domestic.

02:00:30.000 And arms back then literally were warships.

02:00:33.000 Sure.

02:00:34.000 That means Canon, Grapeshot, Man O' War, Frigates, Privateers, Corsairs.

02:00:43.000 It's not necessarily about the view of the Founding Fathers, because technology changes.

02:00:47.000 It's about what was the goal of defending people's right to speech.

02:00:51.000 It wasn't to defend you to go up to someone and scream in their face and threaten them.

02:00:54.000 It wasn't their intent for you to instruct people on committing crimes.

02:01:00.000 It was their intent to offend.

02:01:02.000 What was the right to keep and bear arms?

02:01:04.000 It was the Founding Fathers' intent for you to have the same capabilities as government in terms of warfare so that you could both aid and resist.

02:01:12.000 You could aid the government in times of war should we be invaded, and you could resist the invasions or tyranny.

02:01:18.000 But let me go once further then.

02:01:20.000 All right, so you're saying I could own a warship then.

02:01:22.000 Okay, true.

02:01:23.000 Nuclear weapons.

02:01:24.000 But going back then, warship.

02:01:26.000 What if I were to take that warship and park it outside your home that happens to be on the coast, point the cannon at your home, And then start yelling, I'm going to blow your home to pieces.

02:01:40.000 I'm going to blow your home to pieces.

02:01:41.000 And I just start yelling that for, I don't know, me and my boys yell for weeks on end. 0.94

02:01:45.000 But it's simple.

02:01:45.000 You say, hey, I mean, they didn't have police back then.

02:01:49.000 Now, police forces came around shortly after, I think, the late 1700s. 1.00

02:01:53.000 So likely what you would get is people just generally being like, get your shit, stop. 0.99

02:01:59.000 Don't do that? 1.00

02:02:00.000 Shut up? 0.99

02:02:01.000 What could they really do? 0.82

02:02:03.000 Not that they could do, but do you in your own mind, do you still think that is free speech?

02:02:09.000 Do you think that is... Well, I don't think the First Amendment... The First Amendment is basically about your right to expression.

02:02:15.000 Sure.

02:02:15.000 Your religion, the press.

02:02:17.000 It's not about you threatening people.

02:02:19.000 Yep.

02:02:21.000 There are people who believe it covers everything.

02:02:23.000 I don't think that was the intent.

02:02:25.000 The intent was that you could meet at a local bar and talk about how you think the government is tyrannical.

02:02:30.000 And that you couldn't be arrested for doing so.

02:02:33.000 Now, Second Amendment was literally about keeping and bearing arms, period.

02:02:38.000 I understand the quest to interpret the First Amendment to better understand what we're doing with it, and there's a challenge there because, you know, if you play that game of threatening isn't allowed, well then people can change the definition of threatening.

02:02:51.000 Well, the Second Amendment is mostly about defense.

02:02:53.000 It's about defending yourself.

02:02:54.000 So, at what point is the weapon used for offense?

02:02:57.000 And at what point is offense a form of defense?

02:03:01.000 That's a horrible history of war, but the Romans and the Americans basically invade so you don't get invaded.

02:03:05.000 You never want to be on the defensive end.

02:03:07.000 That's wrong.

02:03:07.000 Preemptive war is wrong, and if you walk up to someone and punch them in the face out of fear they were going to punch you, you commit a crime.

02:03:12.000 So, like, a nuclear bomb is not a defensive weapon.

02:03:16.000 So why they wouldn't be covered under the Second Amendment?

02:03:18.000 I'm not sure that that's accurate.

02:03:20.000 I think nuclear weapons have defended us against World War III for literally 70 years.

02:03:23.000 They're a deterrent, but as a usage scenario, it's used to destroy areas, not to protect yourself.

02:03:29.000 But owning a nuclear weapon literally is defense.

02:03:32.000 Yeah, and what do you think guns do?

02:03:33.000 You think it's a threat?

02:03:35.000 Is a gun gonna shield you?

02:03:36.000 Like, when the bolts are flying at you, do you shoot the bullets out of midair in slow motion?

02:03:39.000 I do.

02:03:40.000 Uh, no.

02:03:41.000 No, no, no.

02:03:42.000 A nuclear weapon, depending on its size, can take out a military fortification.

02:03:47.000 Or it can, you know, let's say a fleet of warships are coming at you in open fire.

02:03:52.000 You can take them out.

02:03:53.000 It's a weapon.

02:03:54.000 Weapons are used for defense.

02:03:56.000 And offense.

02:03:57.000 And in America, if you buy a gun and then use it as an offensive tool against another person, you go to prison.

02:04:04.000 If you are minding your own business and being a law-abiding citizen and someone uses that gun against you and you defend yourself with it, you don't.

02:04:09.000 Well, actually, sometimes you do, depending on the state.

02:04:11.000 In New York State, you can go to prison.

02:04:14.000 Sorry, yes.

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