Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Texas GOP Formally Declares Biden ILLEGITIMATELY Elected w-Angela McArdle

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:49.000 you the texas gop has formally declared joe biden to have been

00:01:07.000 illegitimately elected And while the media is running on and on about voter fraud, the actual issue here has to do with unconstitutional changes to voter laws from the perspective of Texas.

00:01:18.000 Now, I don't want to get into, just in the intro, the whole election debate, but I want to point out What the Texas GOP is saying is, yes, they have issues with fraud.

00:01:27.000 Personally, I don't agree with those narratives.

00:01:29.000 However, they also go on to say that they are challenging the constitutionality of voter rule changes.

00:01:35.000 This lawsuit from Texas, it's Texas v Pennsylvania, went to the Supreme Court who rejected to hear it.

00:01:40.000 And if you don't listen, you're not changing the mind of anybody.

00:01:43.000 So now we're ending up in this.

00:01:46.000 I don't know.

00:01:47.000 Constitutional crisis is the direction we're going in because if the Texas GOP is voting on these things and their confidence is shattered, I don't know what that's going to mean for the rest of the country.

00:01:56.000 But it also means that Texas could vote to secede in 2023.

00:02:00.000 That's another big story that's happening.

00:02:02.000 So we'll talk about all of that and we'll break down why people are feeling this way.

00:02:07.000 And I want to show you the Texas v. Pennsylvania lawsuit.

00:02:09.000 I covered it quite a bit back in 2020, when the lawsuit happened.

00:02:13.000 And interestingly, following that lawsuit, a court in Pennsylvania did rule their universal mail-in voting to be unconstitutional.

00:02:20.000 So, maybe YouTube doesn't want to hear that, but that's a fact.

00:02:23.000 We'll have to talk about all that.

00:02:24.000 We also have Lithuania blocking Russia from transporting important materials into the Oblast of Kaliningrad, which Russia says is illegal, and Lithuania being a NATO state could drag NATO into war with Russia.

00:02:35.000 So, um, I don't know, Civil War and World War III all at the same time.

00:02:40.000 That'll be fun.

00:02:41.000 Oh, oh, oh!

00:02:41.000 Also, there's major food shortages coming.

00:02:43.000 Cool.

00:02:44.000 How exciting.

00:02:44.000 It's going to be great.

00:02:46.000 Yeah, because it's not just about the fact that inflation is really high.

00:02:48.000 It's also that while the costs are going up, the amount you're getting for the same cost is going down.

00:02:53.000 So the inflation is actually way higher than they're really saying, probably to protect Joe Biden, or because they're not tracking accurately.

00:02:59.000 And then you have all of these different countries that get a tremendous amount of their food imports from Ukraine and Russia, which they aren't anymore.

00:03:05.000 And when they run out of food, they're going to, you know, it's World War III.

00:03:08.000 And hey, how are you guys doing?

00:03:09.000 Joining us to talk about all this is Angelo McArdle.

00:03:13.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:14.000 Who are you?

00:03:15.000 I am the chair of the Libertarian National Committee, or more colloquially known as the Libertarian Party.

00:03:21.000 Very nice.

00:03:22.000 Thank you for joining us.

00:03:23.000 You guys recently had a big victory.

00:03:24.000 The Mises Caucus like took over everything. 1.00

00:03:26.000 That's right.

00:03:27.000 I am a former board member of the Mises Caucus.

00:03:29.000 I had to resign effective immediately once I was elected to the national position, but we did.

00:03:34.000 We swept the convention.

00:03:36.000 Every single one of our candidates for the National Committee and the Judicial Committee was elected.

00:03:42.000 Every single one.

00:03:43.000 Wow.

00:03:44.000 All right.

00:03:44.000 Well, we'll get into all that stuff as well.

00:03:46.000 And we also have Mary Morgan. 0.98

00:03:48.000 Oh, hi, everyone.

00:03:51.000 I'm the co-host of Pop Culture Crisis.

00:03:54.000 And before that, I'm a professional edgelord.

00:03:57.000 I'll try to behave myself.

00:03:58.000 This is my first time.

00:04:00.000 So go easy on me.

00:04:01.000 Okay.

00:04:02.000 Nah, they're gonna eat twice as much. 1.00

00:04:04.000 Damn it! 0.99

00:04:05.000 It's heating up. 1.00

00:04:06.000 Hey, this weekend we harvested wheat out of the front yard.

00:04:09.000 I don't know if you guys knew this.

00:04:10.000 We actually blended, Tim blended it up into powder, flour.

00:04:14.000 I milled it.

00:04:15.000 Milled it in the blender and then we made bread out of it.

00:04:18.000 It wasn't half bad.

00:04:20.000 It was a bit moist and cakey.

00:04:22.000 Yeah, that's because of the way it was stored.

00:04:23.000 I didn't have a bread box so I kept it sealed and then the moisture will make it soggy.

00:04:30.000 I liked it though.

00:04:31.000 Yeah, me too.

00:04:31.000 I'm glad you brought up constitutional crisis earlier, Tim, because I think this is a sort of constitutional crisis what we're facing with the way things have been going the last three or four years, really since Donald Trump, that election, and Hillary's email, all that stuff.

00:04:42.000 But I think we need one because the Federal Reserve and this international banking system has been sapping the United States for a hundred years, and it's make or break time.

00:04:52.000 I like it.

00:04:53.000 Yeah.

00:04:54.000 Well, you guys wanted a libertarian and you wanted a Catholic and I brought you one of each. 0.79

00:04:58.000 They're just not the ones you were expecting.

00:05:00.000 I'm very excited to talk to Angela and Mary tonight.

00:05:02.000 I love being on with Mary on Pop Culture Crisis.

00:05:05.000 We always have a great time.

00:05:06.000 Excited to hear what she has to say.

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00:07:13.000 Let's read this first story from Tim.

00:07:15.000 Tim is a man who has a passion for the arts.

00:07:17.000 He is a man who has a passion for the arts.

00:09:04.000 When we pull up the display, the audio is removed for some reason.

00:09:07.000 Oh, interesting.

00:09:07.000 If you missed that, Tim was talking about how awesome I was for like five minutes.

00:09:12.000 Let's do this again.

00:09:13.000 That was pretty hot.

00:09:14.000 Let's just use this one.

00:09:15.000 Yeah, here you go.

00:09:16.000 Perfect.

00:09:16.000 Alright, let's start over.

00:09:17.000 Oh, how sad.

00:09:18.000 I love that scene.

00:09:20.000 Texas Republicans declare Biden illegitimately elected reject 2020 election certification.

00:09:26.000 They say a component of the 2022 platform adopted by Texas Republicans on June 18th rejects the outcome of the 2020 US presidential election, calling it a constitutional violation.

00:09:37.000 We all know how much YouTube loves this story.

00:09:40.000 Quote, The Texas GOP said, We believe the 2020 election violated Article 1 and 2 of the U.S.

00:09:46.000 Constitution that various Secretaries of State illegally circumvented their state legislatures in conducting their elections in multiple ways, including by allowing ballots to be received after November 3, 2020.

00:09:56.000 The resolution reads, They go on to say, They believe that substantial election fraud in key metropolitan areas significantly affected results in five key states in favor of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

00:10:07.000 Now, I don't care for that last statement, to be completely honest.

00:10:10.000 I just, I don't care for it.

00:10:13.000 I think that a lot of really angry people voted against Trump, and I think it's kind of a cop-out.

00:10:18.000 Now, I know a lot of people really, you know, believe in the fraud narrative.

00:10:22.000 I think the bigger issue is we know for a fact that in several states they did change the rules.

00:10:26.000 There were legal challenges.

00:10:27.000 They were never ruled on the merits, many of them.

00:10:30.000 Pennsylvania is the perfect example, and this is what I want to highlight in this story right away.

00:10:35.000 Texas v. Pennsylvania was 2020.

00:10:37.000 Texas said exactly what they're saying now, that various states violated the Constitution in the way they handled the voting.

00:10:44.000 The Supreme Court said, we won't hear it.

00:10:46.000 Okay, if someone comes to you and says, I believe this thing happened, and you go, don't care, I'm not listening.

00:10:52.000 They're gonna say, okay, well, it's not like my mind was changed.

00:10:55.000 If the Supreme Court took the case, heard the arguments, maybe now we would have some resolution.

00:11:01.000 So if you've got a bone to pick, take it up with Roberts and the rest of the Supreme Court.

00:11:04.000 Alito and Thomas were the only ones willing to hear it.

00:11:07.000 The reason why I don't care for the fraud narrative, for one, I'm not completely convinced.

00:11:11.000 I'm sorry, I'm just not.

00:11:13.000 I think a lot of people were very much excited to vote against Donald Trump, and more importantly, it's demoralizing, and it's voter suppression in a sense.

00:11:24.000 You're basically telling people to give up.

00:11:26.000 But I'll tell you this, if there is a question about the constitutionality or the rules in an election, that's something that should be investigated, it should be litigated, so that way there is confidence in the election.

00:11:35.000 I think what's most important here is not necessarily the argument about 2020, because we're going on two years later, you know, for the most part.

00:11:42.000 I think the issue is they never resolved the issue that Republicans have.

00:11:46.000 And because of that, we're now moving into a midterm where already we had one county, Otero County, refusing to certify the results.

00:11:53.000 And now we're going to be moving into 2024.

00:11:55.000 It's going to be even crazier.

00:11:56.000 You think Texas is going to be willing to play with these other states when they were like, you wouldn't even listen to our arguments in the first place?

00:12:03.000 Our mind has not been changed.

00:12:04.000 And now they're building a platform based on that belief.

00:12:09.000 So how do you think conservatives are going to be viewing the Supreme Court going forward?

00:12:13.000 Because historically, people have been really excited about the Supreme Court.

00:12:17.000 We treat those justices like they're gods, like they're more human.

00:12:21.000 They're better than us human beings.

00:12:23.000 They're infallible.

00:12:23.000 They can't do anything wrong.

00:12:24.000 Do you think that's going to change as a result of this?

00:12:27.000 The Supreme Court is viewed that way?

00:12:28.000 Yeah.

00:12:29.000 I think a lot of people view the Supreme Court as though they're otherworldly beings and they're infallible.

00:12:34.000 What's the salary of a Supreme Court justice?

00:12:36.000 Isn't it like $180?

00:12:37.000 It's not that much.

00:12:38.000 It's not very high.

00:12:39.000 Right.

00:12:39.000 So, you know, I bring that up because, yeah, a lot of people view the Supreme Court as just like this, you know, all-powerful entity.

00:12:47.000 And I'm like, some dude just tried to kill Kavanaugh and there's like nothing he can do about it.

00:12:51.000 They're protesting in front of his house and there's nothing he can do about it.

00:12:54.000 And he only makes $180,000 per year.

00:12:57.000 That is not a lot of money to be dealing with this level of threat, these threats and violence.

00:13:02.000 Yeah.

00:13:02.000 And they have no enforcement authority.

00:13:05.000 The Supreme Court can come out and be like, we want this, and everyone go, no, and they go, but you have to.

00:13:10.000 Looks like they make $280,000.

00:13:11.000 Oh, I'm sorry, $280,000.

00:13:12.000 Chief Justices.

00:13:13.000 Not $180,000.

00:13:14.000 Still, $280,000 is... Every year they get a raise, it looks like.

00:13:18.000 280 is a lot of money, but like to be one of the most famous and hated people in the world.

00:13:24.000 Fame and money, they don't always scale together.

00:13:26.000 And if you're super famous and dirt poor, you can't hire security.

00:13:29.000 You can't afford it.

00:13:30.000 And that's a big problem.

00:13:31.000 There's also apparently bad fame when people want to murder you.

00:13:34.000 That's not a good thing.

00:13:35.000 That's pretty horrible.

00:13:36.000 Political fame is not necessarily positive.

00:13:39.000 No, that's why you'd be better off hosting, like, you know, look at us doing this political show.

00:13:44.000 We'd be better off if we were just talking about, like, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard and doing pop culture stuff.

00:13:47.000 Are you jealous?

00:13:50.000 A little bit, to be honest.

00:13:52.000 I think the Supreme Court's got way too much power, man.

00:13:54.000 I think that it should not be 7, 8, 9, 10 people deciding the fates of the entire nation.

00:14:00.000 It's insane.

00:14:00.000 It's completely insane to me.

00:14:02.000 How about Supreme Court precedent?

00:14:04.000 Like, meaning what exactly?

00:14:06.000 I mean, what do you think about the fact that they can decide something, and then that's just the law?

00:14:10.000 I think it's absolutely ridiculous that you would give eight people that power, or twelve people, or whatever it is.

00:14:15.000 It's like, it is legislation.

00:14:16.000 Nine, nine, finally.

00:14:17.000 It's not viewed as legislation, but we treat it as legislation.

00:14:20.000 Well, I mean, I think there are issues, conversations to be had about, you know, the Supreme Court for sure, and authority, but it is the interpretation of the law as the legislation has passed it.

00:14:31.000 Right.

00:14:31.000 So I think the Founding Fathers did a really, really great job trying to craft government.

00:14:37.000 I think it's the best we've seen so far.

00:14:38.000 Certainly, I think we could probably do better.

00:14:41.000 You know, the idea that this is the end all be all of good government, it's not the case.

00:14:44.000 But more importantly, I think, you know, probably early on it was way better than it is now.

00:14:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:49.000 I think it's probably corrupted over a long period of time.

00:14:51.000 Well, it's scaled up dramatically.

00:14:54.000 Social media has changed a lot of the way people interact with just political leaders in general.

00:14:59.000 Like that they can get a tweet, they can get a hundred thousand tweets, messages a day.

00:15:03.000 Like back in the day, a hundred years ago, they lived on their farm and that's where they were and no one really knew where they lived.

00:15:08.000 Well, so I was reading about the John Brown raids in Bleeding Kansas and it's like 10 years or it's like six years before the Civil War.

00:15:16.000 And I was reading about the raid on Harper's Ferry.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:20.000 Dude walked into Harper's Ferry and took over like that.

00:15:24.000 There was no communication.

00:15:26.000 So when they walk in with a bunch of dudes with guns, they're like, okay, you're in charge now.

00:15:29.000 The only reason they ended up getting caught was because there was a train they had stopped, and then John Brown let the train leave.

00:15:36.000 They made it to, I think, Baltimore, and then immediately got on the telegraph and was like, yo, a bunch of abolitionists took over the city, and they're doing like a slave revolt.

00:15:44.000 And killed a lot of people.

00:15:46.000 I think it was five people.

00:15:47.000 Five people died.

00:15:48.000 I could be wrong.

00:15:49.000 John Brown's hardcore. 0.97

00:15:49.000 But bleeding Kansas was nuts. 0.97

00:15:51.000 So that was like warfare.

00:15:53.000 That was just outright war. 0.70

00:15:54.000 It was a state civil war.

00:15:57.000 But anyway, I was reading about this and I'm thinking like, if anything like that happened today, the moment someone banged on the door, the tweet would be out and everyone in the world would know it was happening.

00:16:07.000 The Air Force would be scrambled.

00:16:08.000 The Air Force is already up there waiting.

00:16:10.000 They'd just be like two hours out or less.

00:16:12.000 Oh, they know before you do.

00:16:13.000 They're watching on your phone and your GPS as you're going to Harper's Ferry.

00:16:16.000 So like if John Brown existed today, they'd be like, hey, we noticed those five guys we've been spying on are all in the same place and they're heading towards this armory.

00:16:23.000 Send in the troops!

00:16:24.000 Watch list.

00:16:25.000 Yep.

00:16:25.000 Boom.

00:16:26.000 Done.

00:16:27.000 So anyway, I bring that up because I'm thinking about today and I'm thinking about how social media has changed everything.

00:16:33.000 That the amount of time it took for the Civil War to happen, it wouldn't be the same today.

00:16:37.000 Today it would be like, at the moment it kicks off, everyone knows it kicked off.

00:16:41.000 Mm-hmm.

00:16:42.000 A bunch of triggers would happen, like their power will get shut down here, then the power will get shut down here, then you see an explosion while three places stall.

00:16:50.000 So are people really, people are talking about secession or balkanization, which is the nicer way to put it. 0.99

00:16:57.000 How many people do you think are seriously talking about open civil war?

00:17:01.000 Not many.

00:17:01.000 No, I think, bro, it was trending today on Twitter.

00:17:07.000 102,000 tweets on Twitter.

00:17:08.000 But I don't think they're actually talking about real civil war.

00:17:11.000 They don't know what that means.

00:17:13.000 The reality is you hide in a hole and hope that you don't get a bomb dropped on you every day.

00:17:17.000 You're right, but that doesn't matter.

00:17:20.000 People think suppressors go pew pew pew because they watched a movie.

00:17:25.000 They read a book about civil war and they think they know what it is.

00:17:27.000 These Antifa people, I mean, look at what happened with Aaron Danielson in Seattle.

00:17:32.000 Took two to the chest.

00:17:33.000 People don't understand, civil war is going to be, you're going to get groceries, and then all of a sudden, an IED blows up next to you.

00:17:39.000 And you're just a random person who has nothing to do with this.

00:17:42.000 That's the kind of reality of this conflict.

00:17:45.000 You had those Antifa people in Portland walking around with rifles, and they pointed the gun at the guy in the truck and said, you know, stop, and the guy gets out with his gun.

00:17:53.000 You're gonna be living in your house.

00:17:55.000 And all of a sudden, one day, people are going to walk up and be shooting at each other and bullets are going to go flying through your windows.

00:18:00.000 Dude, it would be like they're blowing up the freeways.

00:18:02.000 All the freeways would be dissolved.

00:18:04.000 They would be gone in a civil war.

00:18:05.000 And then the Chinese would invade. 0.99

00:18:07.000 The CCP would invade.

00:18:07.000 Okay.

00:18:08.000 Well, at some point, the National Guard or the American military is going to come into that equation.

00:18:12.000 So I guess it's just, we wonder when?

00:18:15.000 Because we saw in Portland, well, in Portland, it certainly wasn't civil war, but Didn't it look like it, just on a small scale?

00:18:24.000 Yeah, civil strife, I suppose.

00:18:27.000 So, and I anticipate that if anything like that happens, it's going to start off with civil strife.

00:18:32.000 It's not going to pop off with someone in a militia declaring civil war.

00:18:37.000 So I'll, I think when you bring up the National Guard, there's like a, I suppose a more worrying reality of whichever faction is in control is holding the conch shell, essentially is wielding the power of law enforcement and military.

00:18:53.000 So Donald Trump was unwilling.

00:18:55.000 Tom Cotton said, send in the troops.

00:18:57.000 Trump was unwilling to do it.

00:18:58.000 And he's the conservative one.

00:19:00.000 And right now you can see the feds going to a garage to investigate a pole rope.

00:19:04.000 You can see the feds, AG, unwilling to go after the protesters, illegally protesting in front of the homes of Supreme Court justices.

00:19:13.000 So it very much looks like the reality is The Democrats are willing to use the power, the conservative, the Republicans are not.

00:19:21.000 And that means if there ever wasn't an active conflict, then those who are in law enforcement who are just gonna follow orders are gonna be following orders of Democrats, so.

00:19:30.000 That's pretty rough.

00:19:30.000 They'll be involved.

00:19:31.000 I'll put it this way.

00:19:33.000 So we saw in a lot of news about Taylor Lorenz.

00:19:36.000 You know Taylor Lorenz?

00:19:37.000 Oh yeah.

00:19:37.000 Do you know Taylor Lorenz, Mary?

00:19:39.000 Know of her.

00:19:39.000 Heard of her.

00:19:40.000 So she recently got demoted because she publishes fake news about a couple YouTubers. 0.95

00:19:45.000 Now, people aren't calling it a demotion.

00:19:48.000 They're saying she was moved from the features team to the tech team, but now she's being called a tech reporter.

00:19:53.000 So if you're writing feature opinion columns and now you're just reporting on tech, that's a demotion.

00:19:59.000 But, you know, she gets featured on MSNBC because of mean tweets. 1.00

00:20:04.000 Yeah, we've been swatted eight times.

00:20:06.000 We've had the bomb squad show, we've had credible threats, and my private properties unaffiliated with this show, with tenants in them, have also been swatted.

00:20:15.000 And, you know, look, I'll say it.

00:20:18.000 I guess it's kind of weird talking about myself in this way as if I'm deserving of attention or whatever.

00:20:22.000 But some people, a lot of people pointed out, hey, like, when one of the biggest political shows is getting this much threats and swatting and bomb threats and stuff, isn't that a big news story?

00:20:33.000 But for some reason, we don't crack the news at all.

00:20:36.000 And I'm like, this is exactly what you should understand.

00:20:40.000 When people threaten us with death, when we have to evacuate our studio for three hours over a credible threat, it is not newsworthy to the establishment.

00:20:49.000 When one reporter for the mainstream media gets mean tweets and cries, they bring her on TV and they parade her around.

00:20:55.000 Because we are not a part of the establishment.

00:20:59.000 So...

00:21:01.000 Do you think it might have to do with her just being a woman and women's grievances?

00:21:06.000 Maybe a little bit.

00:21:07.000 Being seen is more important.

00:21:08.000 But I think, look, CNN got bomb threats, and they evacuated, and it was like the biggest news everywhere.

00:21:15.000 I mean, even Fox News doesn't cover what's happening here.

00:21:19.000 We don't matter to that world, even though we rival the viewership in terms of the key demographic for many of these cable shows.

00:21:25.000 In fact, we beat CNN in key demo viewership in primetime.

00:21:29.000 So when I look at something like that, When I look at the crimes committed against us, it's not just the media ignoring it.

00:21:35.000 It's the question of people who are posting this.

00:21:37.000 How is it that Tim Cass has been swatted eight times, received two credible threats, and has had, you know, that's just here.

00:21:43.000 We've also had other properties swatted that people don't know about.

00:21:46.000 They're like, why haven't the feds caught these people?

00:21:48.000 And I'm like, it's a good question, isn't it?

00:21:50.000 It's a real good question.

00:21:51.000 I mean, why haven't they arrested the protesters that are going to Kavanaugh's or Kony Barrett's house?

00:21:54.000 Right.

00:21:55.000 Well, the better question is, why don't they care?

00:21:57.000 Right.

00:21:57.000 And I don't, I don't think that they care.

00:21:59.000 And I think that it's, it's a little bit related to this news story with the Texas Republicans declaring the election illegitimate.

00:22:07.000 And we may not agree with why they're doing it.

00:22:10.000 But I'm a little bit sympathetic to their angst because they feel like everything that they care about, everything that matters to them, does not matter to the people in charge.

00:22:19.000 Exactly.

00:22:19.000 And this is exactly what was happening prior to the first civil war.

00:22:24.000 Southern states, not a fan of them, but they were saying, why isn't the law being upheld as we agreed to it?

00:22:31.000 Why was the North allowed to ignore the law and the South wasn't?

00:22:34.000 Right.

00:22:35.000 So they said later, I don't know what's going to happen, man, but I know reading about John Brown is really fascinating stuff.

00:22:43.000 It is.

00:22:44.000 Look, it's crazy because he was an abolitionist, and he would often talk about the Declaration of Independence, all men are created equal, the Golden Rule, and all these things I completely agree with.

00:22:59.000 He walked up to a dude and shot him in the face. 0.94

00:23:03.000 And a lot of people called him a madman. 0.99

00:23:04.000 They said he was insane. 1.00

00:23:05.000 He was a psychopath. 0.71

00:23:07.000 You got to imagine what would happen right now if some dude like making the same statements as John Brown committed one of these acts. 0.95

00:23:15.000 The funny thing is the left that props him up as a hero would denounce him immediately.

00:23:19.000 Yeah.

00:23:19.000 Because he was about freedom, liberty and the Declaration of Independence.

00:23:23.000 You gotta change the language on that one.

00:23:25.000 Yeah, they couldn't support that.

00:23:27.000 But yeah, basically, Texas filed a lawsuit.

00:23:31.000 Let me pull it up, actually.

00:23:33.000 Texas filed a lawsuit, Texas v. Pennsylvania, in 2020, filed by the state Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:23:40.000 They said, they alleged that Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin violated the U.S.

00:23:44.000 Constitution by changing election procedures through non-legislative means.

00:23:47.000 The Supreme Court said, screw off.

00:23:50.000 Not a good way to go.

00:23:51.000 So what happens if you say, I believe this was unconstitutional, and instead of actually getting that sit down and that adjudication, you're told, go away, we won't hear what you have to say.

00:24:04.000 Texas then goes and says, okay.

00:24:08.000 Our mind has never been changed.

00:24:09.000 We continue to believe these things. 1.00

00:24:12.000 And you know what really frustrates me is the cowardice of the Supreme Court And the media, because they were too stupid and cowardly to realize there are more elections coming. 0.99

00:24:26.000 And if Texas says, we believe it's unconstitutional, and you say, we don't care, then they're going to say, okay, then what happens come 2022? 0.99

00:24:33.000 In the midterms, they're going to be like, we don't believe any of this is legitimate, which is literally what they're doing.

00:24:38.000 What happens if in 2024, Biden actually wins again?

00:24:40.000 I don't see this being possible, to be honest.

00:24:43.000 But let's say he doesn't run.

00:24:44.000 Let's say some Democrat, Eric Adams or Gavin Newsom runs.

00:24:48.000 And then, wins.

00:24:49.000 And Texas just goes, don't know, don't care. 0.96

00:24:51.000 And this time, they don't certify the election.

00:24:54.000 So it could go two different ways, and I think there's a little bit of a scale as to how that could play out, right?

00:24:58.000 They literally just go and do their own thing, they just start ignoring the federal government.

00:25:02.000 Probably still sending in taxes, taking tax revenue in, that, but everything else, they're just not acknowledging it.

00:25:08.000 And the other thing that could happen is that things could get violent, or they could get incredibly violent.

00:25:13.000 And I think a lot of that is going to depend in large part on the response of the federal government and how violent they want to get with people who are trying to basically peacefully secede.

00:25:25.000 And I say peacefully secede.

00:25:26.000 I haven't seen it yet.

00:25:27.000 So that's, you know, that's got a little asterisk by it because we'll we'll see whether or not it's peaceful.

00:25:32.000 The first civil war was peaceful for two months, three months.

00:25:34.000 Right.

00:25:35.000 And that's that's the issue.

00:25:36.000 People think that peaceful divorce is possible, but I don't think it is.

00:25:42.000 Why do you think it's not peaceful?

00:25:44.000 Of what possible?

00:25:45.000 So the first civil war, you had, I think, seven states.

00:25:48.000 I could be wrong.

00:25:50.000 They seceded.

00:25:50.000 They made a declaration, and that was it.

00:25:52.000 For several months, nothing happened.

00:25:54.000 Abraham Lincoln then gets inaugurated and says, nope, those military bases are ours.

00:25:58.000 There you go.

00:25:59.000 So what happens is you've got federal authorities, federal law enforcement officers, and if a state secedes and then tells the FBI, the CIA, DHS, get out, and they say no, it can't be peaceful.

00:26:13.000 That's gonna be a real problem.

00:26:15.000 That's the issue.

00:26:16.000 And you know, what's fascinating is what Ulysses S. Grant wrote about it.

00:26:20.000 He said that every state has a right to secede.

00:26:23.000 Right.

00:26:24.000 It just means that you will go to war, and if you lose, you will live under the rules of your batters, or whatever he said, your captors, or whatever.

00:26:34.000 So his idea was, you know, you look at the American Revolution, you have a right to say, I have a right to autonomy and to secede, and you can try.

00:26:42.000 If you lose, you now live under the rules of those who have defeated you.

00:26:47.000 And then he, his argument was the union spent, uh, sacrificed blood and treasure to admit these states into the union.

00:26:55.000 And there was a debt owed to the union that if they were to leave, it would be like them giving, being given free stuff and then ripping them off.

00:27:01.000 And so that's why they went to war.

00:27:03.000 See, this is part of my problem with government is not everybody signed that contract.

00:27:07.000 No, not everybody agreed.

00:27:08.000 Plenty of people were born after the fact.

00:27:10.000 Plenty of people didn't have, especially in that age, they don't have social media, they're not reading up, they don't know they're just come into this world.

00:27:16.000 They're just trying to survive and prosper with their families.

00:27:20.000 Maybe maybe one good hope for us with any coming civil war would be that it would be a very slow withdrawal and slow pullout.

00:27:27.000 I think it'll be ten times faster.

00:27:28.000 Could be.

00:27:29.000 Because of the internet and social media.

00:27:30.000 The information age.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, it's crazy to me that...

00:27:35.000 Man, I mentioned this in a couple segments earlier.

00:27:37.000 I was watching Avengers Infinity War, which was, I think, 2018, right?

00:27:41.000 2018?

00:27:41.000 You should know that.

00:27:42.000 Well, you're the pop culture person.

00:27:46.000 But I was thinking about what I was doing when this movie came out, and I was like, do we not realize how much the water has started to boil in the past four years?

00:27:57.000 So I was thinking about how people kept telling me, since 2018, there was never going to be a civil war, and I was crazy.

00:28:03.000 Even today, people tell me there's not going to be a civil war.

00:28:06.000 And then when I saw the story about Texas and pulled up Texas v. Pennsylvania, I was reading this lawsuit.

00:28:11.000 I was like, this is how frogs boil in a pot.

00:28:15.000 You can look at Texas v. Pennsylvania and see that you had, I think, 22 states versus 22 states suing each other over whether or not I don't think that there's going to be a civil war.

00:28:26.000 I don't think it's even possible.

00:28:27.000 I think because any war that we get entangled in is global at this point, and it's not going to be on American soil.

00:28:31.000 And then you had January 6th and there are still people acting like nothing's happening.

00:28:34.000 And I'm just like, well, I don't think that there's going to be a civil war. I don't think

00:28:39.000 it's even possible. I think because any war that we get entangled in is global at this point,

00:28:43.000 and it's not going to be on American soil. It's going to be all over the world,

00:28:46.000 including on American soil. But something is definitely happening.

00:28:51.000 I just don't think it's leading to... I take the authoritarian bet, like Abe Lincoln, that we cannot shovel this union.

00:28:57.000 This union is secure.

00:29:00.000 The only reason we're able to have this conversation is because of this union.

00:29:03.000 If the union shatters, we're all doomed, essentially.

00:29:06.000 Like, you think nuclear war is a problem?

00:29:08.000 Well, count your blessings that you haven't watched a nuke go off.

00:29:13.000 What do you think?

00:29:14.000 Do you think there are any parallels that can be drawn between what we're seeing right now with the encroaching totalitarianism and the collapse of the Soviet Union?

00:29:22.000 Because that thing fell apart, and people didn't have to go out and fight and have streets filled with blood.

00:29:28.000 Yeah, it was that the oligarchs wanted to seize control.

00:29:30.000 I think that's a big part of why the Soviet Union fell.

00:29:32.000 It was orchestrated by the oligarchy in Russia to seize power.

00:29:35.000 It could happen here.

00:29:36.000 I can see that happening here.

00:29:38.000 They seem to want to, but it's foreign oligarchs that are trying to do it. 0.91

00:29:40.000 I think the difference is, though, with the Soviet Union, you had different countries.

00:29:44.000 You had people who spoke different languages.

00:29:45.000 You had people who were outright effectively captured in the past few decades.

00:29:50.000 The Soviet Union only lasted, what was it, 69 years?

00:29:52.000 Yeah.

00:29:52.000 So you effectively have Russia just annexing other countries.

00:29:58.000 And so what happens when you have countries—imagine if Texas only spoke French and, you know,

00:30:05.000 Alabama only spoke Spanish.

00:30:07.000 Well, then I can understand a collapse because there's already a language barrier.

00:30:11.000 Although, the closer you get to the border, the more people speak each other's language.

00:30:14.000 This is the United States.

00:30:15.000 We've been, it's 250 years, 250 plus years.

00:30:18.000 So this is, everybody speaks English.

00:30:21.000 We have a lot of shared history, a lot of shared values.

00:30:24.000 Now it's starting to be ripped apart by these two different factions.

00:30:26.000 You have the Constitutional Republic, which is people who are American.

00:30:30.000 And then you have the multicultural democracy.

00:30:32.000 And I suppose Alex Jones would call it the nationalists and the globalists is one way to put it.

00:30:36.000 Yeah.

00:30:37.000 The Bank for International Settlements, the bankers, the Swiss bankers, the World Economic Forum's involved, Blackrock trying to buy American land.

00:30:45.000 Well, it's actually Blackstone is buying a lot of land, and Blackrock will tell you that that's conspiracy if you say it's Blackrock because it's Blackstone, even though they were kind of spinoffs of each other, or one spun off from the other.

00:30:55.000 Let me pull this story right here.

00:30:56.000 Here we go.

00:30:56.000 From Newsweek, Texas could vote to secede from the U.S.

00:31:00.000 in 2023 as GOP pushes for referendum.

00:31:04.000 The Texas Republicans are pushing for a referendum to decide whether the state should secede from the U.S.

00:31:08.000 The demand for Texans to be allowed to vote on the issue in 2023 was one of many measures adopted in the Texas GOP's party platform following last week's state convention in Houston.

00:31:16.000 Now, I want to point out, this is not the first time someone's called for this, but It seems to be moving forward.

00:31:22.000 Under a section titled State Sovereignty, the platform states, pursuant to Article 1, Section 1 of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right to local self-government.

00:31:31.000 Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the Tenth Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified.

00:31:38.000 Texas retains the right to secede from the U.S., and the Texas legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.

00:31:47.000 Now, let me ask you, with all of these libertarian types moving to Texas, do you think there's going to be increasing support for Texas secession?

00:31:56.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:31:57.000 The National Libertarian Party just passed a platform change in support of secession, and the Florida State Libertarian Party did earlier this year.

00:32:06.000 We're all about it because we think that people should be able to live their own lives and just peacefully separate.

00:32:11.000 Emphasis on peaceful, you know.

00:32:14.000 Well, then maybe there's a real possibility for dissolution like the Soviet Union as opposed to the Civil War.

00:32:19.000 That's what I'm hoping for.

00:32:20.000 And I'm hoping that even if it takes a little bit longer that we could do that.

00:32:23.000 And even if it's not a hundred percent.

00:32:26.000 Are you actually hoping for it?

00:32:27.000 Or are you saying instead of violence, you'd rather it be peaceful?

00:32:30.000 Because I'm saying any dissolution of the U.S.

00:32:32.000 is a bad thing.

00:32:34.000 I'm trying to look at it realistically, which is I don't know how we can come together as Americans when we fundamentally have so many major disagreements.

00:32:45.000 Well it's not shared values that is keeping us together anymore it's decadence and how comfortable we've gotten.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:53.000 How fat and happy they're keeping us and frankly pop culture that they're feeding us.

00:32:59.000 And no one wants to go to war because war is awful.

00:33:01.000 Yeah and and the people who fought a civil war before were made of much tougher stuff. Yeah. So, realistically, it's

00:33:10.000 not, we're not talking about whether it would be a good or a bad thing. It would never happen. Or maybe I'm

00:33:15.000 just like operating on the principle that nothing ever happens. Well, well, yeah, that optimism

00:33:21.000 bias.

00:33:21.000 Well, that's normalcy bias.

00:33:24.000 It doesn't happen, it's not gonna happen.

00:33:27.000 But, you know, it's what Ian was saying earlier, that these people don't actually want civil war.

00:33:32.000 And I agree, they don't know what civil war is.

00:33:34.000 Right. 1.00

00:33:35.000 But when you see these Antifa people going around with guns and shooting people, like the dude in Portland got shot, it doesn't matter if you're tough, it matters if you're dumb. 0.93

00:33:45.000 It matters if You know, Forrest Cooper was on the show last week and he said, the people who are good at violence aren't doing it. 0.87

00:33:52.000 And you have to ask yourself why that is.

00:33:54.000 Because we know how awful it is.

00:33:57.000 Well, you know, the people who have trained in war, who know how to do war, are staying away from the stuff because they don't, right, they know how bad it is.

00:34:06.000 But the people who are engaging in it don't know, don't care.

00:34:09.000 I'll tell you once it comes, they'll regret it.

00:34:11.000 But by then it's too late.

00:34:13.000 So I was reading this great post.

00:34:16.000 So let me tell you something.

00:34:17.000 Do you know what bourgeoisie means?

00:34:18.000 Bourgeois.

00:34:22.000 The actual definition?

00:34:23.000 No.

00:34:23.000 Do you know?

00:34:24.000 Anybody?

00:34:24.000 It just makes me think of hoity-toity wealth, wealthy, rich people.

00:34:27.000 Wrong.

00:34:28.000 It's middle class, I think.

00:34:29.000 Yeah, it's middle class.

00:34:30.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 Is it the proletariat?

00:34:32.000 That's the working class. 0.99

00:34:34.000 Then who's the upper class?

00:34:35.000 What do they call them?

00:34:36.000 I don't know.

00:34:36.000 Hmm.

00:34:37.000 I don't know.

00:34:37.000 All I know is the bourgeois, bougie.

00:34:39.000 It means middle class.

00:34:41.000 So when these, when these people, these people don't understand is these like Antifa urban liberal types.

00:34:47.000 They're the people who get purged in the communist revolution.

00:34:50.000 They're the bad ones.

00:34:52.000 There was this meme post where they're like a bunch of Trump QAnon rednecks are going to team up with inner city gangs because they have more in common than the laptop class.

00:35:00.000 Yeah.

00:35:00.000 With each other than the laptop class.

00:35:02.000 And so there's going to be these uppity hipsters who want to eat vegan food.

00:35:06.000 Wondering, you know, what's going on and the people who literally have nothing are gonna be like, you are the people whose wealth we will redistribute.

00:35:14.000 Yes.

00:35:14.000 And the rich people who have all their money in Panama and Switzerland are gonna laugh and be like, can't do anything to me.

00:35:19.000 Well, that's a common part of critical theory in Marxism is that the middle class is what has kept the proletariat from rising up and defeating and trying to overthrow the upper classes because they see the middle classes.

00:35:31.000 Oh, that's so attainable.

00:35:32.000 I want to move to that.

00:35:33.000 I want to become that.

00:35:34.000 I bring that up, though, because I think you made a good point, Mary.

00:35:36.000 That what's holding this country together is basically everybody's fat and happy and doesn't want to risk their Krispy Kremes and their Marvel movies.

00:35:43.000 I prefer not to.

00:35:44.000 I prefer to not be shot in the street.

00:35:46.000 That sounds like a horrible time.

00:35:47.000 Well, I mean, like...

00:35:49.000 That's the worst of it, but even your movie theater being shut down. 0.98

00:35:54.000 It sucked.

00:35:55.000 Yeah, like entertainment is getting worse. 1.00

00:35:58.000 Our food is poison.

00:36:01.000 So if they can't even keep up the appearance that we're comfortable and distracted, I understand why some people's minds are going towards civil strife at the very least or civil war.

00:36:15.000 I think civil war.

00:36:18.000 I'm pretty sure that lockdowns contributed to a large part of the rioting because people were, they didn't have anything else to do.

00:36:25.000 Oh, yeah, I think you lock someone in a cubicle apartment.

00:36:29.000 Yeah.

00:36:29.000 This is the crazy thing, man.

00:36:31.000 I think for most conservatives who live in suburbs and in rural areas, they don't understand that in New York City, you're in a 15 by 15 box.

00:36:40.000 Yep.

00:36:40.000 And you cannot leave.

00:36:42.000 These people were effectively in solitary confinement.

00:36:44.000 Yeah.

00:36:45.000 And then all of a sudden, you see people in the streets running around smashing stuff.

00:36:48.000 You're there.

00:36:49.000 The city went nuts.

00:36:50.000 There's nothing else to do.

00:36:51.000 Well, it's the one time you can go outside.

00:36:53.000 Yeah.

00:36:54.000 That's a scary thing.

00:36:54.000 It's really sad.

00:36:55.000 The question I suppose is, you know, Texas talks about seceding a whole lot.

00:36:59.000 Are they actually going to do it?

00:37:01.000 Well, we'll see.

00:37:02.000 So I think that this is probably going to get tied up in a legal battle and it's going to end up just like the Supreme Court.

00:37:08.000 Yeah, they're going to say no.

00:37:09.000 It's going to be secession 2.0.

00:37:10.000 That's the one that you have to watch for is how do they react after they get smacked down and ignored by the powers that be.

00:37:16.000 Well, I think what we should look out for is exactly what happened in the first Civil War.

00:37:21.000 Texas says these other states aren't abiding by the law.

00:37:24.000 They've already said that.

00:37:25.000 People need to pay attention to this, okay?

00:37:27.000 Look at the chronology of the Civil War.

00:37:29.000 The southern states said the north was not abiding by the law because they weren't adhering to the Fugitive Slave Act.

00:37:34.000 Not a fan of that, in my opinion.

00:37:36.000 The Fugitive Slave Act was, if the slave escapes, the North has to return them.

00:37:38.000 But the North certainly wasn't doing that.

00:37:40.000 And I'm like, okay, that's a good thing.

00:37:42.000 They shouldn't have.

00:37:43.000 But the South then said, if you aren't abiding by the laws we agreed on, there's no union anyway.

00:37:49.000 So the federal government was not adhering to the law, not enforcing it.

00:37:52.000 So then they said, okay, we secede.

00:37:55.000 The Supreme Court can say whatever they want.

00:37:57.000 If Texas is outright saying this election is illegitimate, it's the GOP saying it.

00:38:01.000 Yes.

00:38:01.000 But if Texas, the AG filed a lawsuit, and he did, the state of Texas did, and the Supreme Court refused to hear it, We're getting to the point where you have a state saying, you are not abiding by the law.

00:38:15.000 How close are we until Texas just says, we don't care what the federal government thinks.

00:38:18.000 We're not asking for permission.

00:38:21.000 Hopefully we're getting close.

00:38:22.000 I mean, it's a scary prospect.

00:38:25.000 China's going to come in. 0.99

00:38:26.000 Is China going to come in with what?

00:38:29.000 Nuclear submarines off the coast of the Gulf.

00:38:31.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:38:31.000 I don't know about that. 0.87

00:38:33.000 Stage land invasion, drop bombs on Boston.

00:38:34.000 Why would they do that?

00:38:36.000 Just to take control of it? 0.99

00:38:37.000 But then we'll bomb them. 0.99

00:38:38.000 That would be terrible. 0.99

00:38:39.000 Who would bomb them?

00:38:40.000 Texas? 0.88

00:38:41.000 I believe that the federal government would absolutely bomb them.

00:38:43.000 But it's not a federal, it's not a United States state at that point.

00:38:45.000 This is where we're talking about post-secession.

00:38:47.000 Okay.

00:38:48.000 If the states break apart.

00:38:49.000 Who would defend Texas?

00:38:49.000 That's my concern.

00:38:50.000 Oh, post-secession.

00:38:51.000 See, I don't think that it'll happen that quickly.

00:38:54.000 I think that what's going to happen if we have a secession movement that really takes hold is that you're going to start to see the federal government become more hands-off, but you're still going to see military bases and alphabet agencies still there, still active, but you're just going to start to see the rest of the influence decline.

00:39:11.000 I think if Texas secedes, then you're going to have states in the union who say, we need access to X resource.

00:39:19.000 Now, normally we deal with Texas, but now there's a border and there are new regulations popping up and new negotiations to be had.

00:39:25.000 China then comes in and says, we're going to give you that resource 10% off.

00:39:32.000 Much more likely to go about things that way.

00:39:33.000 And then within 10 years, they're completely dependent upon China.

00:39:37.000 The Texas industry of oil or whatever they're producing gets gutted and destroyed because

00:39:41.000 China's got more ability to go.

00:39:44.000 But think about Texas culture.

00:39:46.000 How likely do you think they are to be like, China, come on over?

00:39:49.000 Well, they won't though, but California will.

00:39:52.000 California is going to be like, it's way cheaper to buy from China.

00:39:54.000 Yes.

00:39:56.000 But then we'll see probably what we're already seeing right now in Europe, which is that people tend to freak out when you see another country, a major military power, start to encroach on your border.

00:40:05.000 And I think that the United States, even if Texas completely seceded,

00:40:09.000 would still keep a strong military alliance with Texas.

00:40:12.000 And if China started doing anything particularly sketchy, I think the United States military

00:40:17.000 would lose their minds and go to town. 1.00

00:40:20.000 I look at all this stuff happening, and I'm just frustrated by how stupid our government is. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Yeah, me too. 1.00

00:40:26.000 Because the Supreme, here's the problem, it's a bunch of cowards. 1.00

00:40:30.000 They're all cowards. 1.00

00:40:31.000 The Republicans are cowards. 1.00

00:40:32.000 Most of the Democrats are cowards. 1.00

00:40:34.000 Supreme Court's a bunch of cowards. 0.98

00:40:37.000 Thomas and Alito, probably the only people who have any backbone to them, the only ones who were willing to hear that Texas lawsuit, and they didn't issue a ruling on the merits. 0.94

00:40:44.000 They just said, original jurisdictions lawsuits are within our purview.

00:40:48.000 We must hear them.

00:40:49.000 That's it.

00:40:50.000 The rest of them were like, no, I don't want to be involved in this.

00:40:52.000 Oh, I'm so scared.

00:40:53.000 Not me.

00:40:54.000 Right.

00:40:54.000 They don't want to get swatted.

00:40:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:57.000 You know, if they just come out and said, we'll hear it.

00:40:59.000 You know, we'll hear it.

00:41:00.000 And then the Supreme Court could have come out and outright said, we reject it.

00:41:04.000 The states are allowed to and hold their elections as they see fit.

00:41:08.000 Their vote has nothing to do with your vote.

00:41:09.000 Move on.

00:41:10.000 So the implication there is that they didn't hear it because they were afraid that the country would freak out and people would lose their minds if they gave their honest opinions.

00:41:21.000 Which just means that two years later, the confidence in the election is shattered.

00:41:26.000 The American people feel like there's no regis of grievances. 0.99

00:41:29.000 The First Amendment is trash. 0.98

00:41:31.000 And now here we go. 0.99

00:41:32.000 Second Amendment's in the gutter. 0.52

00:41:33.000 Fourth Amendment's in the gutter. 0.77

00:41:35.000 Fifth Amendment's in the gutter. 0.97

00:41:37.000 You look at the Constitution right now and you gotta wonder what rights are being protected at all, if any.

00:41:44.000 You've got major corporations who have taken political speech.

00:41:47.000 Now you've got a fracturing of American culture based on the fact that people could not gather and communicate anymore because no one was willing to address that issue.

00:41:55.000 Or I should say, at the very least, one faction was suppressing the other and you had a bunch of people in Silicon Valley.

00:42:00.000 Second Amendment has been infringed upon for the past hundred plus years in every possible way.

00:42:05.000 It is clear-cut the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

00:42:09.000 The Third Amendment Mostly not being infringed.

00:42:13.000 But there was one issue of the eviction moratorium.

00:42:17.000 When the federal government said that you couldn't evict people, there were landlords who said, my tenant is active duty.

00:42:26.000 That means the government is mandating I keep an active duty service member in my home.

00:42:31.000 That violates the Third Amendment.

00:42:32.000 That was fascinating.

00:42:33.000 Fourth Amendment.

00:42:34.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:42:35.000 Is there a Fourth Amendment? 0.57

00:42:36.000 We got stop and frisk.

00:42:37.000 We got red flag laws already in 19 states.

00:42:39.000 Patriot Act.

00:42:40.000 Patriot Act.

00:42:40.000 Oh, come on.

00:42:41.000 You've got metadata spying at the NSA.

00:42:45.000 Come on.

00:42:46.000 Look at all the X-Keys score, all those things that were unveiled by Edward Snowden.

00:42:49.000 And if any amendment has been crossed out so hard, it's been ripped from the paper itself, it's the Fourth Amendment.

00:42:56.000 Yeah, it's toilet paper.

00:42:57.000 Yeah, Fifth Amendment. 0.99

00:42:58.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:42:59.000 Look at the Ahmaud Arbery case.

00:43:00.000 There's no right to a trial anymore.

00:43:02.000 There's no innocent until proven guilty.

00:43:04.000 Patriot Act again.

00:43:05.000 Patriot Act again.

00:43:05.000 There you go.

00:43:07.000 And then if you look at the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, Texas is right here.

00:43:10.000 There's a whole bunch of other amendments we can talk about.

00:43:12.000 We can still drink beer, I guess.

00:43:13.000 We need what Gwyneth Paltrow calls the conscious uncoupling.

00:43:16.000 We need that from the federal government.

00:43:18.000 Is that what she said, Gwyneth Paltrow?

00:43:19.000 When she split, she was like, it's a conscious uncoupling.

00:43:25.000 That's one way to do it, I guess.

00:43:27.000 Luke Rudkowski last week, I think it was, made an interesting allusion between the enabling act that Hitler signed that stripped the Germans of their rights to the Patriot Act and I think that might actually be a lot more realistic.

00:43:41.000 Like the Reichstag fire.

00:43:42.000 Reichstag was burnt.

00:43:44.000 Hitler blamed the communists and then immediately seized people's rights.

00:43:47.000 The World Trade Centers came down.

00:43:49.000 We immediately blamed the Muslims and Osama bin Laden and then signed the Patriot Act. 0.62

00:43:53.000 I think you're right.

00:43:54.000 I wish we could talk about Hitler and people would listen, but that's not allowed.

00:43:57.000 They're listening now.

00:43:58.000 They're listening.

00:43:59.000 Well, history doesn't repeat.

00:44:00.000 It rhymes, as the saying goes.

00:44:01.000 Yeah.

00:44:01.000 And so certainly there are people who learn from history in good ways and bad ways.

00:44:05.000 Yeah.

00:44:05.000 You can learn from history in the good way and be like, hey, that was the thing that happened.

00:44:08.000 It was bad.

00:44:08.000 And then everyone suffered.

00:44:09.000 Let's not do that again.

00:44:09.000 Yeah, let's not.

00:44:10.000 Other people can learn from the past in bad ways where they're like, you see what that bad guy did?

00:44:13.000 That worked.

00:44:14.000 Let's try that.

00:44:14.000 You got to learn not to rush to make legislation after a tragedy.

00:44:19.000 Yeah.

00:44:19.000 As a just citizen, don't do it.

00:44:21.000 Don't support politicians that want to do it.

00:44:23.000 It's crazy emotional power grab.

00:44:24.000 legislation after this tragedy is our only chance.

00:44:27.000 Yeah, you look at the exploitation of a crisis, they do it every single time.

00:44:29.000 As a just citizen, don't do it.

00:44:31.000 Don't support politicians that want to do it.

00:44:34.000 It's crazy emotional power grab.

00:44:36.000 There's no need to rush legislation.

00:44:39.000 You got to rush in war, but you don't need to rush the legislative.

00:44:42.000 That's what career politicians do, though.

00:44:44.000 It's interesting, right, all the crossover between them and corporate journalists.

00:44:48.000 Because they've got to rush to capitalize on a crisis, too.

00:44:50.000 Everybody's like, oh, I've got to be the first one there.

00:44:51.000 It's pretty gross.

00:44:52.000 Adam Schiff came out and he was like, you know, I have evidence that Donald Trump was involved in January 6th.

00:44:57.000 And then it was at Dana Bash, I think.

00:44:59.000 She was like, what evidence?

00:45:00.000 Well, let's not get ahead of the hearing here.

00:45:02.000 Oh, please.

00:45:03.000 The dude who held up the envelope and says, I have evidence of collusion.

00:45:05.000 And there was none.

00:45:06.000 It's like QAnon.

00:45:07.000 It's like some secret dude reporting from a broom closet across from the White House, telling us any day now it's going to happen.

00:45:13.000 Right.

00:45:14.000 BlueAnon and QAnon, man, it's two ends of the same stick.

00:45:18.000 But the issue, I suppose, is you don't got QAnon people going on MSNBC and CNN or even Fox News.

00:45:24.000 True.

00:45:25.000 Maybe I'm sure there's some person who's gone on Fox News who said something about Q whatever. 0.99

00:45:28.000 It's probably been a while, though.

00:45:29.000 Right.

00:45:31.000 You look at the prominent right-wing voices or moderate or libertarian voices, and they're not Q. You look at the left, they're all Blue Anon. 0.69

00:45:39.000 Oh, totally.

00:45:40.000 Like 90% of them are Blue Anon.

00:45:41.000 Not all of them.

00:45:42.000 Do you mind telling me what Blue Anon is or means?

00:45:46.000 Or who that is?

00:45:46.000 Yeah, you know what Q Anon is, right?

00:45:48.000 Yeah.

00:45:48.000 Blue Anon is a reference to the Democrats' versions of insane conspiracies like Donald Trump is a Russian agent.

00:45:54.000 Same coin.

00:45:54.000 Same thing.

00:45:55.000 Okay, but there's no person claiming to be that.

00:46:01.000 Like, there's no queue either, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:46:02.000 It's just stupid online forums where people believe whatever. 0.98

00:46:05.000 But the Blue Anon people are like, any day now, Trump's gonna get arrested, and they post memes of Trump in handcuffs, like, being walked out, and they're like, it's coming, it's coming! 0.99

00:46:14.000 They have been screaming that Donald Trump is gonna be arrested for, like, four years now.

00:46:19.000 And They're crazy conspiracy theorists.

00:46:20.000 They also believe that the 2020 election was illegitimate.

00:46:23.000 That's right.

00:46:24.000 Isn't it fascinating how everyone thinks- 2020 or 2016?

00:46:28.000 Oh, 2016, sorry.

00:46:29.000 Everybody thinks every election is illegitimate.

00:46:31.000 It kind of, it almost makes me feel like maybe voting isn't always the best way to solve our problems.

00:46:36.000 Michael Malice had a bold tweet today.

00:46:38.000 He was like, there's no upside to accepting an election you disagree with.

00:46:42.000 Well.

00:46:43.000 He's right, I mean, in a sense.

00:46:46.000 But I kind of feel like, Accepting you lose an election is because you have a stable system of governance and a culture in which you agree with people.

00:46:55.000 I suppose if we've come to the point in the U.S.

00:46:57.000 where we have no unifying culture other than gluttony, then... Dependence.

00:47:02.000 We've got roads and currency and education styles and communication.

00:47:09.000 I can drive to my parents' house in Ohio.

00:47:13.000 We have a lot of things binding us as a culture.

00:47:15.000 But we have our culture is fracturing is the issue.

00:47:18.000 Yeah, so that has really done that education.

00:47:21.000 Let me let me ask you guys, right?

00:47:24.000 Let's say civil war happens the food supply collapses because you know Russia and Ukraine war Small town of 10,000 people.

00:47:32.000 What do you think the people in that town do when they run out of food?

00:47:38.000 Anybody?

00:47:38.000 Well, it depends on the town, I guess.

00:47:40.000 Is it, like, out in the middle of nowhere?

00:47:41.000 Yeah.

00:47:41.000 They're growing their own food.

00:47:42.000 It's a middle-of-nowhere small town.

00:47:43.000 Oh, they're gonna have to go to the next town.

00:47:45.000 And do what?

00:47:46.000 Look for food.

00:47:47.000 So, do you think the people in that small town will work together to go look for food?

00:47:52.000 Some of them will.

00:47:54.000 Do you think the town would start rioting within itself and destroying itself as people steal food from their neighbors?

00:47:59.000 Possibly.

00:48:00.000 I don't think so.

00:48:02.000 I think a small town of 10,000 people in the middle of nowhere where you're gonna have people come out and be like, what do we do?

00:48:07.000 Well, I don't know.

00:48:08.000 We have no food.

00:48:08.000 You're going to have a town hall meeting.

00:48:10.000 There might be some theft.

00:48:12.000 The police and people will round up.

00:48:13.000 We can't allow this.

00:48:14.000 We got to figure this one out.

00:48:15.000 What changes it is the internet because you'll have like sleeper cells on Facebook groups where they're like, you go and infiltrate your neighbor's meeting and then we'll have an agent there on Thursday.

00:48:26.000 All these different groups will come together.

00:48:27.000 A small town where people are more likely to know each other.

00:48:31.000 They're more likely to be conservative.

00:48:33.000 They're more likely to go to church together.

00:48:35.000 They're not going to break the window of their neighbor's house to steal his bread.

00:48:38.000 New York City, on the other hand, their neighbors don't know each other at all.

00:48:43.000 I lived below, above, and across from people I never met.

00:48:48.000 I don't know their names.

00:48:49.000 I barely knew what they looked like.

00:48:51.000 That's New York City.

00:48:53.000 Out here, we know who the neighbors are.

00:48:55.000 We don't like talk to them all that often.

00:48:57.000 Yeah.

00:48:57.000 But when you're out in the middle of nowhere, you're more likely to know who your neighbors are.

00:49:01.000 I think realistically, in a small town setting, you're likely to see a handful of people try to loot and riot and act crazy.

00:49:07.000 And unfortunately, you'll see some other people in the town put them down.

00:49:11.000 Yeah, I think they would.

00:49:12.000 Right?

00:49:13.000 They won't put up with it.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, I think they would end that pretty quickly.

00:49:15.000 And I wanted to say, too, I think this is making me think that maybe part of the reason that one in five people in the Soviet Union were informants by the end was because they were living in such close quarters.

00:49:25.000 Because I was gonna say, I was gonna argue with Tim and be like, oh, no, you know, remember one in five people, you know, people and families were selling each other out.

00:49:31.000 But I was like, maybe that's because they were cramped in, like, what was functionally a gulag apartment.

00:49:35.000 Well, and they were desperate.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 I mean, desperate to try to, well, not get thrown in the gulag, right, but also to garner goodwill with your superiors who have their thumb on you.

00:49:43.000 I think smaller towns, you're going to see a lot less rioting.

00:49:47.000 Yes.

00:49:47.000 And you do see a lot less rioting in general, you know, for any reason.

00:49:52.000 In New York, where the guy who lives 10 feet from the other guy doesn't know who the other guy is, oh, they're going to rob you blind.

00:49:57.000 It's like, I'm hungry, you got beans, those beans are mine.

00:50:00.000 Yeah, it's like, I think it's called the concept of Anomi, you know, being anonymous in a giant crowd, because you just can, you can just blend right in like a fish.

00:50:08.000 So I'm thinking about, so we've got this food shortage coming.

00:50:12.000 And let me see if I if I have this story.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:50:15.000 New York Post says record diesel prices could lead to food shortages in US, farmers warn.

00:50:20.000 So I'm thinking about this, and there was a post from, what is it, Pwn All The Things, a Twitter account, saying that Lebanon and Kazakhstan, all these other states, get a majority of their wheat and crops from Ukraine and Russia.

00:50:34.000 Now they're not getting that food.

00:50:36.000 And so I thought, what's going to happen inside those countries when they don't get food?

00:50:41.000 I think my opinion is Lebanon will attack another country to get food. 1.00

00:50:46.000 Possibly.

00:50:47.000 I mean, I think you're also going to see begging for foreign aid and that foreign aid is going to come in and probably say that things will have to get really bad before people start going to war.

00:50:56.000 But the U.S.

00:50:57.000 is looking at major shortages as well.

00:50:58.000 We are.

00:50:58.000 This is what people need to understand about the food shortage.

00:51:00.000 It is not just that we don't have fertilizer.

00:51:03.000 We didn't have fertilizer because of the war in Ukraine with Russia.

00:51:07.000 That dramatically cut our fertilizer down.

00:51:09.000 They were reporting crop yields would be down 40%.

00:51:12.000 Then you have hyperinflation already!

00:51:14.000 The economy's in trouble.

00:51:15.000 So food's gonna be more expensive, less readily available.

00:51:18.000 Then what people don't understand is that this story right here, farmers need diesel to get the crops.

00:51:24.000 So now if the gas is in short supply, six bucks a gallon, three times more than it was last year, and there's less food as it was, your loaf of bread is going to be 20 bucks.

00:51:32.000 It's going to get expensive.

00:51:33.000 I will say that with, I'll give you one little white pill though, which is that these industries, some of the people who move in these industries can make technological advances really rapidly.

00:51:43.000 That will hinge on whether or not the federal government administration, the agencies really, the federal agencies allow them to do that.

00:51:50.000 And we saw them do it really rapidly, you know, set aside testing requirements for certain types of drugs that came out over the last couple of years.

00:52:00.000 I would hope that they would do the same when it comes to food.

00:52:04.000 I don't know, but it's possible.

00:52:05.000 So Norman Borlaug is the scientist who I think he quadrupled crop yield for like wheat and some other crops.

00:52:11.000 Yeah.

00:52:12.000 However, I was reading about this, I could be wrong because I'm not going to pretend to be an agricultural expert.

00:52:18.000 The crop yield increased but the nutritional density did not.

00:52:22.000 Correct.

00:52:22.000 So that meant that there was a large amount of starch available but not enough vitamins.

00:52:27.000 So one of the arguments made as to why poor people are so fat Is because in order to get the same amount of folate or thiamine or, you know, whatever B vitamins, you've got to eat four times as much heavy grains than you used to.

00:52:40.000 So poor people trying to get the nutritional value are eating massive amounts of starch, gaining fat.

00:52:46.000 Yes.

00:52:46.000 So I don't think I should call myself an insider of this.

00:52:50.000 I will tell you that my boyfriend works in agriculture, agriculture tech.

00:52:54.000 And one of the things that he talks about a lot that I've seen is that soil health is getting improved.

00:53:00.000 And that is a really good thing to know.

00:53:02.000 And what that also means is that they're going to become less reliant upon antibiotics and industrial fertilizer and things like that.

00:53:10.000 So it is possible.

00:53:12.000 But again, there are a lot of regulatory hurdles, and it would take a lot of work to get everybody implementing these practices really rapidly, but it is technically possible.

00:53:21.000 And if it's technically possible, then I'm going to be optimistic.

00:53:24.000 I'm going to be like Mary and be like, yay!

00:53:26.000 It's starting to happen here.

00:53:28.000 Yeah.

00:53:28.000 I'm not optimistic.

00:53:29.000 I just think nothing ever happens and everything's fake.

00:53:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:53:34.000 That's a form of optimism.

00:53:37.000 In a way.

00:53:38.000 We're going to spin that for you.

00:53:39.000 Okay.

00:53:41.000 There's two biases.

00:53:42.000 There's a normalcy bias and the optimism bias.

00:53:44.000 Normalcy is what you're saying.

00:53:45.000 Nothing ever happens.

00:53:46.000 It won't happen.

00:53:46.000 And optimism is good things are going to happen.

00:53:49.000 It can't be.

00:53:50.000 That's too bad.

00:53:50.000 Right?

00:53:51.000 I skew optimistic.

00:53:53.000 I don't know if optimism is the right way to look at it because Or pessimistic.

00:54:00.000 It's like positive or negative.

00:54:01.000 It's a thing that's happening.

00:54:02.000 Yeah, I want to be realistic.

00:54:04.000 Exactly.

00:54:04.000 But part of my realism is acknowledging that I skew slightly optimistic.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, there's the logic of it, which is a realistic thing or fantasy.

00:54:12.000 And then there's the emotional aspect of it, which is optimism or pessimism.

00:54:17.000 And you can be a realistic optimist.

00:54:19.000 Which I am.

00:54:21.000 I'm acknowledging that foreign corporations are attempting to buy us out.

00:54:24.000 They're attempting to squander our wealth, but I mean, that doesn't mean we can't change it.

00:54:30.000 Seize control.

00:54:31.000 Well, they want to make money, but so do I. So, competing interests.

00:54:36.000 Not too crazy of a concept.

00:54:38.000 I think we can work it out.

00:54:39.000 To go back to the point I was saying about the food and fuel stuff is that I think if it really got to the point where in the U.S.

00:54:46.000 we're in short supply for food and we're not in a position to do foreign aid and send food anywhere else, these other countries that are smaller I don't think are as likely to internally implode.

00:54:58.000 They might.

00:54:59.000 When there's no food, and it's due to the corruption of your government, you get a revolution.

00:55:04.000 When there's no food due to foreign war, the leader can rally you and say they're stealing our food.

00:55:08.000 Then they can justify an invasion of a foreign country to get food, steal it from their neighbors. 0.96

00:55:13.000 The U.S.

00:55:13.000 being so large, though, I think the U.S.

00:55:16.000 implodes.

00:55:17.000 Small country?

00:55:17.000 Sure.

00:55:18.000 Small state?

00:55:19.000 Sure.

00:55:20.000 Big country?

00:55:21.000 Not so much.

00:55:22.000 Well, we got Mexico.

00:55:24.000 You think we're going to go to war with Mexico? 0.97

00:55:26.000 I think... Maybe pillage them, unfortunately.

00:55:28.000 Like California and Texas.

00:55:30.000 There's not going to be California and Texas agreeing, like, we need to, you know, go to Mexico and get food.

00:55:35.000 And California and Texas are... Texas is going to be like, California's got the food.

00:55:39.000 California's got all the food.

00:55:40.000 California is going to leverage that against everybody in the country.

00:55:43.000 We do have a lot of food.

00:55:45.000 Oh yeah, it's like a third, isn't it?

00:55:46.000 We have a ton of food in the Central Valley.

00:55:48.000 We don't have great water infrastructure, so that's a real problem.

00:55:52.000 Colorado says, probably not even just Colorado, but Arizona, Nevada, they say, we want food, you want the water that comes from our states.

00:56:00.000 Without a federal government enforcing these treaties, what do you do?

00:56:03.000 Southern California exists only because of the Colorado River water.

00:56:06.000 Oh yeah.

00:56:07.000 And so if that gets cut off, bye-bye Los Angeles and San Diego.

00:56:11.000 There you go.

00:56:12.000 Then what they'll do is they'll divert delta water, the water from the delta north of California

00:56:17.000 to the south to compensate, which would turn, which it would cause a massive influx of salt

00:56:22.000 water into the delta, killing all of the farms in the Bay Area.

00:56:29.000 If only California's government had built water reservoirs 30 years ago, like everyone

00:56:33.000 said they should.

00:56:34.000 We're known for a ton of horrible policies, but I promise you that we have more horrible policies that you guys have never heard of.

00:56:40.000 It's actually, it's a giant, it's like a layer cake of failure.

00:56:45.000 Oh yeah, man.

00:56:46.000 Rolling blackouts are coming.

00:56:48.000 What are they doing?

00:56:49.000 Are they going to do water rationing soon?

00:56:50.000 Yes, again.

00:56:51.000 Fuel rationing?

00:56:52.000 Again.

00:56:52.000 This is the second or third water rationing since I've lived in California.

00:56:56.000 Okay I don't want to sound like a total idiot bimbo but like you're like next to the ocean right? 1.00

00:57:02.000 Yes. 1.00

00:57:03.000 So can't you just take the salt out?

00:57:06.000 Yeah there are desalination plants and it's doable it's not very cost effective yet but that technology is also like they're trying to improve it and I'm sure that if we were in a real serious crunch and the dot you know was turned off you would see that you know propel rapidly.

00:57:21.000 I'm not convinced California can make it, to be honest.

00:57:25.000 I'm not sad about it.

00:57:25.000 The level of corruption and mismanagement is so intense that I'm not convinced that in a real crisis, people would come together to solve it.

00:57:33.000 Okay, so what if California collapses before Texas secedes?

00:57:38.000 You think that might change people's attitudes about secession if they see, or just politics in general and the turmoil, if they see these... I think it might exacerbate the issues.

00:57:49.000 We're the 11th largest economy in the world in California.

00:57:52.000 And if that collapsed, that would be... Well, actually, you would feel that globally.

00:57:56.000 There's your global issue, Ian.

00:57:58.000 You would see that impact the entire world.

00:58:01.000 So in order to make the desalination plants work, you need a lot of energy.

00:58:05.000 Yes.

00:58:06.000 Where's the energy going to come from?

00:58:07.000 I guess all those nuclear power plants we shut down.

00:58:10.000 That's right.

00:58:11.000 What if they used the salt from the ocean to boil to get the heat to produce the electricity to desalinate the ocean water to get more salt to boil?

00:58:20.000 Burn the salt?

00:58:21.000 Yeah, they have these giant magnetic, they have thorium nuclear reactors where they heat up salt and melt it.

00:58:26.000 And that's thorium salts though.

00:58:29.000 So that's something different, okay.

00:58:30.000 Molten salt, what they'll do is take all this They have these mirror arrays and they focus the light at the center tower, which is containing salt.

00:58:37.000 The salt melts and then overnight it stays molten.

00:58:40.000 So it produces, boils water and just massive amounts of steam power.

00:58:43.000 They would have to build those.

00:58:44.000 Yeah.

00:58:45.000 I don't think California is functional enough to build those in a crisis.

00:58:49.000 Well, no, they got to start building them now.

00:58:51.000 Exactly.

00:58:51.000 And they're not going to.

00:58:52.000 You have human feces all over the streets of several of their major cities.

00:58:56.000 Mary, did you know that San Francisco has a poo patrol?

00:58:59.000 Poop.

00:59:01.000 Department what do they do? Well, okay. So like, you know, the fire department does right? Mm-hmm

00:59:05.000 Like there's a fire you call the fire department. They come up with the fire out. Uh-huh. Sam's was a poo department 1.00

00:59:10.000 Like hey, there's poop on the street I don't think they actually have sirens or anything, but

00:59:18.000 they show I like the people that pick up roadkill.

00:59:21.000 It's job creation.

00:59:22.000 There's so much human feces all over the streets of San Francisco.

00:59:27.000 They had to create a department.

00:59:28.000 You need to hit it with lasers, dude, and turn it into graphene. 0.73

00:59:31.000 It's carbon-based.

00:59:32.000 Dr. Evil over here.

00:59:35.000 But just think about desalination, which they have one plant in Carlsbad, I think I've been there, it was really cool to watch.

00:59:41.000 They have these massive tubes and they just force at really high pressure the water through these filters, which then purifies it and then pump out all the brackish water back into the ocean.

00:59:52.000 Local environmentalists are saying the brackish water, it's brine, it goes down to the bottom and kills all of the base level organisms, which wipes out the food chain straight up.

01:00:05.000 I'm sure it does.

01:00:06.000 So then we have to pick, which is a very major dilemma for people who are very far left and progressive, what matters more, human life or ocean life?

01:00:15.000 And then we have to also pick on our energy, which everyone hates.

01:00:18.000 What matters more?

01:00:19.000 Turning off our power and having rolling blackouts and all that or providing drinking water?

01:00:24.000 If you took away luxury and security from the United States, you would have no leftists.

01:00:32.000 So I've said this for a really long time, and I gathered this by watching TikTok.

01:00:35.000 Not to the extent that you do, Mary, thankfully.

01:00:38.000 Thank God.

01:00:38.000 I got banned.

01:00:39.000 I don't watch TikTok now.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, I know you did.

01:00:40.000 Yeah, you can't watch it anymore.

01:00:41.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:00:41.000 They're stealing our information.

01:00:42.000 But I figured that if we got rid of free time, we'd be good.

01:00:46.000 We'd be fine.

01:00:47.000 No more free time.

01:00:48.000 None of these teachers with blue hair talking about their weird genders and confusing people with pronouns.

01:00:53.000 All of that would be gone.

01:00:54.000 We'd just be focused on our work.

01:00:55.000 It'd be fine.

01:00:56.000 That's my two cents.

01:00:57.000 That's like the simplest method I can see.

01:00:58.000 I disagree.

01:00:59.000 How so?

01:01:00.000 Because you'd have to erase a hundred years of technological advancement to get anywhere near that.

01:01:05.000 And free time existed a long time ago.

01:01:08.000 We had tons of free time.

01:01:09.000 It's just that it's the level of communication and the level of hyper-tribalization that's causing the Here's what I'm saying with, you get rid of luxury and security, you have no leftists, because when people have to think about survival, that's when they're like, me and no one else, and I'll do what it takes.

01:01:27.000 So you're mentioning environmentalism?

01:01:29.000 Yeah.

01:01:29.000 They're going to decide humans.

01:01:30.000 And they're going to decide themselves.

01:01:32.000 I hope so.

01:01:33.000 You're not going to have, I mean, you may have people at this point who are like starving and on the street crawling, being like, I will not eat the food.

01:01:41.000 I really doubt it.

01:01:42.000 They're going to be like, I will eat you!

01:01:44.000 And then they'll kick your door in and they'll take your beans, you know?

01:01:48.000 Or you.

01:01:48.000 Yeonmi Park said starvation is like all you can think of is food when you're starving.

01:01:53.000 She came from North Korea and fled the country and said that she fled because she was starving so she chose to become a sex slave in China to get out so she had food.

01:02:02.000 Right.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, she said that she was like sitting there looking at the lights and just thinking like, I wonder if there's food there.

01:02:07.000 People would be like laying on the side of the ground that have died from starvation, cannibalism.

01:02:11.000 I mean, it's just...

01:02:12.000 Total, total rampage.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, I think that a lot of what we see in modern politics, particularly with feminism, is due to the fact that we are a bubble of security. 1.00

01:02:20.000 Yeah?

01:02:21.000 So if you think about evolutionary psychology and you go way back in time, like, men were like, we have to die to protect the women, because the women are the ones who, like, create people.

01:02:32.000 Yes.

01:02:32.000 So, you know, men would, if you have 100 men and 100 women, And 99 men die, your society survives because the women can have kids.

01:02:41.000 But if 99 women die, you're done. 0.85

01:02:43.000 One woman could not sustain a population. 1.00

01:02:45.000 Boy, that's some interesting implications in that statement.

01:02:48.000 Well, yeah, it's the root of a lot of the gender roles. 1.00

01:02:52.000 Look, I'm not making this up.

01:02:53.000 This is just like academic gender evolutionary psychology. 1.00

01:02:57.000 And so what happens is gender roles emerged from that. 0.99

01:03:00.000 You take a bunch of nomadic humans and they would fortify the women because those that didn't ceased to exist. 1.00

01:03:07.000 And those that did thrived.

01:03:09.000 The men would go out and hunt big game and bring back fish or protein.

01:03:13.000 The women would gather and keep food and protect the family and raise the kids. 1.00

01:03:17.000 Keep the home.

01:03:18.000 Keep the home.

01:03:18.000 Literally.

01:03:19.000 And then a bunch of the guys would die on the hunt or in war, but the women would survive and have kids. 0.94

01:03:24.000 So that ends up with, you know, in Europe with the escalation of warfare between nations, the women are staying in the home to be protected and the men are going out and doing work and then you build a society based on those ideas and you get traditional gender roles.

01:03:37.000 So I'm not saying those are good things.

01:03:38.000 I'm just saying that's the common idea.

01:03:41.000 The stark human reality of our biological conditions.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, so we end up with this safety bubble and luxury bubble.

01:03:49.000 We produce all this oil and energy, and now we have people who can gorge themselves and not have to do any work.

01:03:55.000 I mean, come on, let's be real.

01:03:57.000 The people in New York City who work at BuzzFeed, I always bring this up.

01:04:00.000 Millennials?

01:04:01.000 Oh, come on, let's talk about the Washington Post.

01:04:04.000 This woman who gets fired because she's complaining about Dave Weigel, you know, making a sexist tweet. 0.99

01:04:10.000 That could not exist.

01:04:12.000 200 years ago.

01:04:13.000 Seriously?

01:04:14.000 I mean, maybe some of those ideas started to exist because we had technological advancements.

01:04:20.000 But if you're like, we are being bombarded in a raiding party just stole the last of our chickens, you wouldn't be going like he said a naughty word, you'd be like, I'm dying and I need food.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, it's, it's, it is first world problems.

01:04:30.000 Right.

01:04:31.000 Take away the first world, all that stuff goes away. 0.99

01:04:34.000 I'm not saying it's a good thing.

01:04:34.000 I'm just saying I don't think the modern left could exist in... I kind of feel like if you took your modern leftist, forced them to work on a farm for a couple weeks, they would really change their minds.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:47.000 Unless they're, like, deeply rooted in their neuroses, and then they would be like, I should be in charge of the farm and you should serve me.

01:04:53.000 I mean, that's kind of what parents do with bad kids when they send them off to wilderness survival camp.

01:04:59.000 Some of them come back totally changed.

01:05:01.000 But even that is so contrived and fake.

01:05:04.000 Like, I've been thinking about it recently, how, like, when people grew up on farms and they saw animals reproducing and giving birth and dying, Uh, it would be impossible to have the level of confusion about gender and life and death that we have right now.

01:05:23.000 Right.

01:05:24.000 If you were watching that as a child, as you grew up, you would be immune to the propaganda that we're getting inundated with today.

01:05:32.000 Which is why Braxton McCoy was on the show saying that exact thing.

01:05:36.000 He was, he was raised around farm animals and had no, I mean, just knew from age four.

01:05:40.000 He never had the birds and the bees talk.

01:05:41.000 He never had to, cause he always knew how sex worked.

01:05:44.000 Was it, was it Seamus I think you mentioned?

01:05:46.000 Someone asked him how did people learn how to reproduce before sex ed or something like that?

01:05:51.000 Was it Seamus who mentioned this?

01:05:52.000 Yeah, somebody mentioned they had a friend who was like, how did we know about this?

01:05:55.000 By watching animals!

01:05:57.000 What?

01:05:57.000 No, not watching animals!

01:05:58.000 Like, all of human existence was just like, I like that thing.

01:06:01.000 I'm going to that person.

01:06:02.000 I just rewatched Blue Lagoon recently.

01:06:05.000 Am I canceled now?

01:06:09.000 I won't even say why I would be canceled for that.

01:06:12.000 But they figured it out.

01:06:13.000 They figured it out.

01:06:13.000 They had a baby.

01:06:14.000 Two people stranded on an island since they were children.

01:06:18.000 It's almost like their innate biological drives.

01:06:22.000 And that, like, a dude looks at a woman and goes, I would like to, you know, grab that woman.

01:06:28.000 Auga.

01:06:29.000 Yeah.

01:06:30.000 Yup.

01:06:30.000 Auga.

01:06:31.000 That's exactly it, as the cartoons dictate.

01:06:32.000 Like how much free will do we have as a species?

01:06:35.000 Cause like you're saying, or you guys, this keeps coming up that like, unless we're absolutely forced to change, like you're saying, California, if the power goes out, then you'll start to see people like pushing this technology.

01:06:45.000 If they run out of water, they're going to start desalinating.

01:06:47.000 How much of this is free will?

01:06:48.000 Like, how much are we actually in control or, like, deciding to go against our instinct?

01:06:52.000 How much of it is just, only when we need to do it are we gonna do it?

01:06:55.000 Well, it's free will, but there's a lot of people who don't exercise free will.

01:07:00.000 There's long-term thinking and short-term thinking.

01:07:02.000 And I think you'll find among the I guess culture war right, whatever you want to call it.

01:07:08.000 I always just say post-liberals, moderates, libertarians, and conservatives, a tendency towards long-term thinking and delayed gratification.

01:07:16.000 And among the left, you get instant gratification and short-term thinking.

01:07:19.000 High time preference.

01:07:20.000 I'll give you a really good example.

01:07:21.000 Short-term thinking.

01:07:22.000 I'm seeing all of these memes pop up.

01:07:24.000 It's crazy.

01:07:25.000 I don't know why this meme is emergent on the left.

01:07:26.000 And they're like, why don't we plant fruit trees in cities so that everyone can just eat fruit and not have to worry about where their food comes from.

01:07:33.000 Why don't we just do the good thing so that the bad thing don't happen?

01:07:37.000 Yeah, do you guys know why we don't do public fruit trees in big cities?

01:07:41.000 So, well, there's a couple of reasons.

01:07:42.000 You'll probably have more.

01:07:44.000 One is the contaminants from the air actually make the plants poisonous.

01:07:49.000 Two is it takes sometimes... Toxic.

01:07:50.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 Four to seven years for a tree to bear fruit.

01:07:54.000 That's true.

01:07:55.000 And then the other thing is when we transplant fruit-bearing trees into cities, the fruit rots, and then you get pests, insects, rats, and pigeons, and then disease.

01:08:05.000 Someone has to come and collect the fruit and maintain the tree.

01:08:08.000 Very dutifully.

01:08:09.000 It's this remarkably childish, short-term, single-layer thought that I keep seeing where they're like, Imagine walking down the street and the trees had fruit on them.

01:08:17.000 It's like, oh, and there's no negative repercussions.

01:08:20.000 Nothing else happens.

01:08:21.000 No one's got to care for them.

01:08:22.000 No one maintains them.

01:08:23.000 The fruit is just there and it stays there until you're ready to eat it.

01:08:26.000 That is the talk of someone who's never had a garden in their life.

01:08:29.000 You know why?

01:08:30.000 We grew tomatoes.

01:08:32.000 You know what we did wrong?

01:08:33.000 We planted them all at the same time.

01:08:34.000 And you know what happens when you plant all your tomatoes at the same time?

01:08:38.000 They all ripen at the exact moment and then it's like, who wants to eat 300 tomatoes today?

01:08:43.000 Because they go bad tomorrow.

01:08:45.000 And so then someone was like, Tim, you need to plant them one week at a time.

01:08:48.000 Plant one a week later, plant one, then you'll get seven.

01:08:51.000 The next week you get seven.

01:08:52.000 And I'm like, oh yeah, I didn't know that.

01:08:55.000 But the insects will swarm and eat them if you don't.

01:08:58.000 Yeah, so we threw them to the chickens. 0.92

01:08:59.000 We just started like, there you go, chickens.

01:09:00.000 And then here's the best part.

01:09:01.000 The chickens poop out the seeds and they grow again.

01:09:03.000 Oh, nice.

01:09:04.000 Circle of life.

01:09:05.000 Yeah.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, because they poop wherever and then all of a sudden we notice tomato plants were growing and we're like, oh, look at that.

01:09:10.000 All right.

01:09:10.000 Well, that's kind of charming.

01:09:11.000 It worked out.

01:09:12.000 Well, that's how it's supposed to go.

01:09:14.000 I mean, but you look at the single layer short term thinking and that's exactly what we've got more houses than homeless people.

01:09:23.000 What's wrong with this society?

01:09:24.000 We should just put homeless people in houses. 1.00

01:09:26.000 And I'm like, Who's going to maintain the house?

01:09:30.000 Who's going to inspect the house?

01:09:32.000 Who's going to check the electrical wiring of the house?

01:09:35.000 Who is going to be paying attention to any of the rot or termites or any of the problems in the houses?

01:09:39.000 Yeah, you can't just put a homeless person in a house.

01:09:42.000 But they don't... these utopian thinkers, typically leftists, don't think beyond that.

01:09:48.000 Well, the prosperity we have now that we're living off of came from the age of reason.

01:09:55.000 And that is why I think leisure time is valuable and is necessary for human flourishing.

01:10:02.000 But then now we're sinking into the age of the will and anything is true if we will it.

01:10:10.000 Well I think that has a lot to do with the lack of God.

01:10:13.000 And I don't mean like from an overt religious perspective.

01:10:16.000 I mean it from a people who don't believe that things exist beyond them or above or greater than them.

01:10:22.000 So the people I feel like there's a tendency among people who believe I am nothing but a wet robot.

01:10:29.000 Nothing matters.

01:10:30.000 Yep.

01:10:30.000 To engage in more nihilistic thinking like whatever feels good I'm going to do.

01:10:35.000 Yeah.

01:10:35.000 But people don't want to believe that.

01:10:37.000 It's to write a blank check for your bad behavior.

01:10:40.000 I wouldn't necessarily say bad behavior because that implies that they're like a morality.

01:10:44.000 I think it's self-aggrandizing and self-ish behavior.

01:10:48.000 Carnal behavior.

01:10:51.000 I see laziness and apathy and cowardliness also come out of that.

01:10:56.000 Yeah.

01:10:56.000 And that I think is really disappointing.

01:10:59.000 There's something about God, about knowing that the will is outside of you.

01:11:03.000 At least I think my own will is not in my body.

01:11:06.000 It's a result of the collective will of conscience or whatever it is, the earth, the humans, the animals, all of it.

01:11:12.000 But what did you mean?

01:11:13.000 You said people don't want to believe that?

01:11:15.000 They don't want to believe that they're wet robots, that they're just like meat sacks with electricity.

01:11:20.000 I think they do.

01:11:21.000 I think some people do.

01:11:22.000 I mean, it removes consequence from the actions, but that's not what people truly desire.

01:11:28.000 Well, they don't act that way.

01:11:29.000 It's just a cop-out for when they don't want to take responsibility.

01:11:34.000 I don't agree.

01:11:34.000 I think you guys are projecting.

01:11:36.000 Tell me more.

01:11:37.000 Well, are you religious at all?

01:11:39.000 Yeah, I'm a Christian.

01:11:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:11:41.000 And you marry as well?

01:11:42.000 Yeah, I'm a Catholic.

01:11:43.000 So, uh, your view and your mind is, is like, I think you're saying these people certainly could not truly believe this.

01:11:51.000 Why would they want to feel that way?

01:11:53.000 No, no.

01:11:53.000 I mean, I've, I know many of these people.

01:11:56.000 We had someone on the show who was like, I'm nothing but a wet robot.

01:11:58.000 Nothing matters.

01:11:59.000 Yeah.

01:11:59.000 I think Sam Harris totally believes it.

01:12:01.000 But I think that a lot of the people who adopt that worldview are not totally bought into it.

01:12:06.000 And that it's just sort of an easy way for them to not confront personal responsibility.

01:12:10.000 Sure.

01:12:11.000 I agree with that.

01:12:12.000 Like, atheism isn't on the rise as far as I know.

01:12:15.000 It's just a religiosity that's on the rise.

01:12:18.000 Nobody is dogmatic these days about being an electrified meat sack.

01:12:26.000 I don't think people feel strongly and are animated by that belief.

01:12:30.000 I think they're the exception, not the rule.

01:12:32.000 Like, there's a handful, you know, the amazing atheist and those types.

01:12:36.000 Yeah, I think I agree with you, but I think you don't need to be a zealous atheist going door-to-door and preaching the word of why there's no God to live in a world with no moral framework and believing your will be done.

01:12:53.000 So, I'll put it this way.

01:12:55.000 A tendency among people who believe in a higher power is the higher power has a will over them.

01:13:00.000 A tendency among people who don't believe in a higher power, they believe that their will be done.

01:13:03.000 Yeah.

01:13:04.000 Or a tendency towards.

01:13:05.000 Which is an interesting paradox, because a lot of the people who believe that they're meat robots don't believe in free will.

01:13:11.000 That's true.

01:13:12.000 It's a strange, it's a strange paradox to live with.

01:13:14.000 Yeah, maybe they're, I don't know.

01:13:16.000 You know, I was thinking about this earlier, and I'm not, uh, like, I don't believe in any dogmatic theistic religion.

01:13:22.000 I do believe in God.

01:13:23.000 I do believe that there is something greater and beyond us, be it simulation theory or just some purpose to the universe.

01:13:29.000 Because I was thinking about, you know, I was playing a video game, and in the video game, you can choose to just die.

01:13:35.000 I was playing Spelunky.

01:13:36.000 You ever play Spelunky?

01:13:36.000 You guys know Spelunky?

01:13:37.000 Oh, I know Spelunky.

01:13:38.000 Spelunky is amazing.

01:13:39.000 Spelunky 2, it's a great game.

01:13:41.000 And, uh, it's a roguelike game.

01:13:42.000 This is a game where you play, you collect items, you try to make it to the end, and if you die, you just start over, and it's a procedurally generated world that's always different.

01:13:51.000 And I thought to myself, in this game that I am playing, I've come to points where I felt like I just didn't have enough items, or ropes, or I didn't have the jetpack, and I'm like, meh, and I just jumped my guy into spikes.

01:14:02.000 Then the game starts over and I try again.

01:14:04.000 There was no consequence to ending my character's life.

01:14:07.000 Right.

01:14:07.000 But here in this world, there's a massive consequence to doing it.

01:14:11.000 And then I thought about that and I was like, that makes me feel like there is a greater purpose and there is something that matters to this universe beyond me.

01:14:16.000 It is not just about me and being like, well, you know, my life wasn't good enough.

01:14:20.000 I'm going to jump on this spike.

01:14:21.000 No, that'd be terrible.

01:14:22.000 You'd have a massive wave of negative consequences for everyone around you.

01:14:25.000 Those who depend on you and rely on you.

01:14:28.000 And then I'm like, so there just is easily to me something outside of me that matters, that my will is not the most important will in existence.

01:14:38.000 Right.

01:14:38.000 But I feel like people who don't see that are just like, I get what I want and that's all that matters.

01:14:43.000 Yep.

01:14:44.000 And that's why you see people like, in my opinion, Leah Thomas, the swimmer in the NCAA, recently banned,

01:14:49.000 I guess they're now banning Leah Thomas from swimming.

01:14:51.000 And this is a person who has everyone saying, we don't want you a part of our event.

01:14:57.000 Or I shouldn't say everybody, but a lot of people expressing that and being like,

01:15:00.000 don't care, I'm happy.

01:15:01.000 And I'm like, it's interesting.

01:15:03.000 If it were me and I went to a skateboarding contest, and let's say it was a flip trick contest

01:15:09.000 for which I'm particularly good.

01:15:10.000 And they were like, bro, we can't hang with you.

01:15:12.000 We'd prefer it if you didn't compete I'd be like, okay, no problem.

01:15:16.000 I probably wouldn't win, I'm just saying, if that was the instance where I was like, you're too good at this, it wouldn't be fair to everybody else, I'd be like, alright, I'm out, I get it.

01:15:24.000 But imagine being like, no, I'm better and I deserve it.

01:15:26.000 I'm gonna come in here and everyone has to watch me.

01:15:28.000 Aren't you weirded out by that at all?

01:15:32.000 Doesn't that make you feel bad?

01:15:33.000 It's why, as a libertarian, I really stress individualism.

01:15:36.000 I think it's so important.

01:15:38.000 But what we also need to stress with that is personal responsibility.

01:15:42.000 Because individualism just runs rampant without any insight or...

01:15:46.000 But responsibility to other people, you know?

01:15:49.000 Not just like yourself.

01:15:51.000 Right.

01:15:52.000 That's where you lose me with individualism because you don't have personal responsibility without connection to other people.

01:15:58.000 But you should.

01:16:00.000 As an individual.

01:16:01.000 I'm an individual.

01:16:01.000 I control everything that I do.

01:16:04.000 But I'm not such a freak that I don't want to have other friends and think about how my actions affect other people and the people that I'm close to.

01:16:13.000 And they, as responsible individuals, should feel the same way.

01:16:17.000 And so I do believe that there is a strong sense of connection to other human beings through that.

01:16:21.000 It's through personal responsibility and caring and also understanding that every human value has some sort of, you know, unique, intrinsic value to it.

01:16:29.000 And sure, some people are more valuable than others, depending on how they contribute to the world and what they do to you.

01:16:34.000 But I would say that we're all born, you know, screaming and naked into this world with still some little bit of intrinsic, unique value.

01:16:41.000 I wonder where that comes from, you know, because I was raised Christian, Catholic, and I certainly feel like I don't know if there is going to be judgment or if it's just karma, but it certainly feels like what you do matters.

01:16:55.000 Yes.

01:16:57.000 I don't know, man.

01:16:58.000 Because even the weight of the question, like, why do we feel like what we do matters?

01:17:03.000 Yeah.

01:17:04.000 But it does.

01:17:04.000 There's a reason we feel that way.

01:17:06.000 It does.

01:17:06.000 At least.

01:17:07.000 Even if it's not true.

01:17:09.000 You're not particularly religious, right, Ian?

01:17:10.000 No, not, I don't follow.

01:17:12.000 But what about karma?

01:17:13.000 I think it's definitely real.

01:17:14.000 I was just studying the phantom DNA experiment last night.

01:17:18.000 They bombard, they take DNA, they put it in a vacuum and they bombard it with photons.

01:17:23.000 And then they remove the DNA from the vacuum and the photons stay there for like two weeks as if the DNA is still there.

01:17:28.000 I'm like, what's a ghost?

01:17:30.000 Well, it's probably like, it's probably like photons that are still orbiting something that used to be there that doesn't know.

01:17:37.000 It's still behaving.

01:17:38.000 Feeling even maybe like when you look at these clouds of plasma on the way they move.

01:17:42.000 I mean, maybe they're not intelligent, but they definitely seem to be reacting to stimuli so that I get you're Alluding to some kind of spiritual after image energy, but you're magnetic field karma.

01:17:56.000 I think it exists within the magnetic fields behavior.

01:17:58.000 I But there's like, how is that... I don't understand.

01:18:02.000 If you do something mean to someone, how does something bad happen to you after the fact?

01:18:07.000 You're programming your field or the field around you with that behavior and then that behavior is going to encourage you to continue with this programming.

01:18:15.000 So you're saying like, your intentions and actions emit an energy that has a reciprocal effect back on you.

01:18:19.000 Yeah, I don't know if emit energy is exactly the right word.

01:18:22.000 They seem to be spinning the reality in a way that becomes...

01:18:27.000 Addictive.

01:18:28.000 Conducive.

01:18:29.000 Leaves a trace.

01:18:30.000 Yeah.

01:18:30.000 That's why it's easier to do the same thing over and over again.

01:18:33.000 I noticed that in my base life.

01:18:34.000 That's very true.

01:18:35.000 I feel like it would take a long time to break down, point by point, how you see it happening.

01:18:40.000 But I think the simple answer is, you believe that Yeah, but I think it's the way you feel about your actions.

01:18:49.000 I used to think about George Bush, Jr., war in Iraq.

01:18:52.000 Like, oh, well, bad karma.

01:18:53.000 He took us into the war, he's gonna have bad karma.

01:18:55.000 But he felt fine about it, as far as I can tell.

01:18:57.000 So I think it's if you feel good about doing evil, you're gonna have good karma.

01:19:00.000 If you feel bad about doing good, you're gonna have bad karma.

01:19:03.000 That's interesting because so I'm trying to compare that to how I feel about kind of something you touched on earlier which is when you do something bad and then you do it again.

01:19:15.000 I don't know if I agree with you on that Ian, because I kind of feel like the way I've often described it is serving organization and order is typically good and serving chaos and destruction is typically bad, but not always, but tendency towards, kind of like a yin-yang kind of thing.

01:19:33.000 And so I kind of view the world like that.

01:19:35.000 I don't know, like I was saying, maybe it's because I was raised Christian, but I feel that if I wrong other people, I will regret it.

01:19:44.000 There's a badness to it that will affect you in some way.

01:19:47.000 I don't believe in hell.

01:19:48.000 I don't think I'm going to be surrounded by ice or fire or be chewed in the mouth of the devil himself or anything like that. 1.00

01:19:54.000 But I just kind of feel like, I don't know man, it just feels like when all this comes done, they're gonna be like, you are a dick. 0.99

01:20:02.000 Everyone knows it. 0.99

01:20:02.000 A good person to ask is a soldier that killed in combat, because if you're killing for the greater good for your country, you have good karma. 0.99

01:20:10.000 I hope that good karma comes to you for doing that.

01:20:13.000 I don't know.

01:20:13.000 But when they're judged, their soul is judged.

01:20:16.000 I don't know.

01:20:16.000 Maybe God will be like, well, you evil.

01:20:19.000 You killed therefore.

01:20:20.000 But I don't think killing is evil.

01:20:21.000 But there are so many factors that go into evaluating an action like that.

01:20:25.000 There's what the person thinks it was.

01:20:28.000 Just following orders.

01:20:29.000 Whether or not it was true.

01:20:31.000 Truly what they did.

01:20:33.000 That's their intent, and then there's the object of what they did, which some people would argue is murder, but others would argue is defending your country.

01:20:43.000 Yeah, because you could think you did it and have the karma still affect you.

01:20:46.000 And then there's the consequence, like maybe you thought you killed someone, but you didn't.

01:20:49.000 You have a simulation in your mind or something?

01:20:52.000 Like a metaverse, some weird mind... A car crash happens and you think it was your fault.

01:20:56.000 Yeah, if you just mistook your action for some other action.

01:20:59.000 Well, how does that relate to karma, if you feel guilty about something that wasn't technically your fault?

01:21:03.000 I just mean there are many factors that go into evaluating whether an action was virtuous or vicious.

01:21:10.000 To sort of wrap it all back, I guess what I was trying to say is that I find a tendency among many of these leftists is that They don't have that fear.

01:21:19.000 Correct.

01:21:19.000 They do not fear that their actions, there will be any negative repercussions to them.

01:21:23.000 That they can do what they please, and it is what it is, and it doesn't matter.

01:21:26.000 It's a bit paralyzing to worry.

01:21:28.000 Like, I used to get into Jainism a little bit, this religion where, like, you don't even step on grass because it's too destructive. 1.00

01:21:34.000 Like, destroy nothing.

01:21:35.000 Leave no trace.

01:21:36.000 And I'm like, I can't, that is too, it's too, at some point you just got to get down with being destructive because it's a huge part of what we are.

01:21:43.000 We eat, we kill and eat.

01:21:45.000 We destroy to consume, you know?

01:21:47.000 I mean, I can tell you about that as someone who was vegan for 15 years.

01:21:53.000 Part of it is neuroticism.

01:21:55.000 I abhorred violence.

01:21:57.000 I think I was strangely violent as a female child.

01:22:03.000 I think I was very violent.

01:22:05.000 I grew up in a very conservative home, whatever.

01:22:06.000 You know, I was the only girl in the neighborhood.

01:22:09.000 And I had sort of a reaction to my own violent behavior and I was very committed to nonviolence.

01:22:13.000 But it did get to a point for me with Crohn's disease where I had to make a literal life and death decision and I had to get over my neuroses and change my diet because I could eat nothing else.

01:22:25.000 I think a lot of environmentalists and Janus and people like that have that incredible guilt associated with it and paranoia and neuroses, which is interesting.

01:22:35.000 With the implications that Tim raised of basically kind of, it's almost like they don't have a conscience in these certain respects, because a lot of them also behave in this very compartmentalized, nonviolent way towards animals and environmentalism.

01:22:48.000 But it almost makes me think maybe some of it is self-hatred and self-loathing.

01:22:53.000 I want to be careful, too, because I don't think it's absolute when I say, like, leftist.

01:22:58.000 I'm not trying to say, like, literally every person on the left thinks this.

01:23:01.000 I just say there's a tendency towards.

01:23:03.000 I certainly think you've got people who claim to be conservative and religious who are just really bad people, of course.

01:23:08.000 Yeah.

01:23:08.000 But I think, you know, typically what I'm referring to in this is not the fringes, it's the mainstream.

01:23:16.000 Among the mainstream and establishment left, I question the morality of these personalities who don't seem to have one when they'll say, stop-and-frisk is bad, red-flag laws are good.

01:23:26.000 Yes.

01:23:27.000 Why is stop and frisk bad? 0.99

01:23:29.000 Well, because they directed it at black people. 0.88

01:23:32.000 Do you think they're not going to do that with red flag laws? 1.00

01:23:35.000 I tweeted, I'll tell you this, I tweeted this earlier.

01:23:37.000 I said, trans people have higher suicide rates and the left has a higher tendency towards 0.98

01:23:44.000 mental illness.

01:23:45.000 Red flag laws, by that logic, will disproportionately affect the left. 0.74

01:23:49.000 Yes.

01:23:49.000 And a tennis player, Marina Novotarova, how do you pronounce her name?

01:23:54.000 Yeah, something like that. 0.99

01:23:55.000 Tweeted at me some really nasty thing and she was just like, you know, are you naturally an asshole or did you have to try really hard? 1.00

01:24:04.000 Where did you come up with this BS statistic, the left mental illness? 1.00

01:24:08.000 And PA voter fraud, which is weird because I didn't tweet about. 0.58

01:24:11.000 And then she was like, I know where the real mental illness is.

01:24:14.000 It's in this delusion.

01:24:15.000 And it was like this really nasty thing.

01:24:16.000 And I was just like, okay.

01:24:19.000 Went on Google, typed in liberal mental illness, and then just started screen grabbing all the things that came up because they do.

01:24:25.000 She ended up taking the tweet down and saying, I apologize.

01:24:27.000 But that's the example.

01:24:29.000 High profile, prominent individuals who are angry, arrogant, and use their ignorance for influence, or in their ignorance they influence, not even an effort to Google search it.

01:24:41.000 Hubris and laziness. 0.80

01:24:43.000 And that is driving one Fact, a large portion of the political debate.

01:24:48.000 Well, I mean, you've got the postmodern education system telling people that truth is relative.

01:24:54.000 It's objective.

01:24:55.000 It's whatever you embrace.

01:24:56.000 So why would they go and Google and search for the truth?

01:24:58.000 You know, we have people like AOC saying that, that the truth isn't as important.

01:25:02.000 I'm going to butcher her quote.

01:25:04.000 Um, that it doesn't, it doesn't matter, you know, like what's in your heart matters.

01:25:09.000 If you're factually correct, it matters that you're morally correct.

01:25:11.000 Correct.

01:25:12.000 There's that saying that ignorance is bliss that it goes way back.

01:25:15.000 Yeah.

01:25:17.000 I think a lot of these people are living in a state of ignorant bliss.

01:25:19.000 The American dream, for instance, if you do your best, you can get a house with a picket fence.

01:25:24.000 Like, you know, we've been enslaving the world with our economic OPEC oil money for like 70 years.

01:25:31.000 It's not natural to have this kind of luxury. 0.96

01:25:33.000 Wake up, shatter yourself out of the out of the ignorant. 0.99

01:25:38.000 Haze. 0.99

01:25:38.000 And look at the information. 0.99

01:25:40.000 It's not pleasant, but it has to happen.

01:25:42.000 Ian, we went into the garden.

01:25:44.000 We have like a strip of wood chips.

01:25:47.000 Yeah.

01:25:48.000 And some grass started to sprout.

01:25:51.000 And nobody weeded it.

01:25:52.000 And it turns out it was wheat.

01:25:54.000 And then once it clearly was wheat, I was like, hey, look, wheat is growing.

01:25:58.000 Let's leave it.

01:25:59.000 And then once it dried out and was ready, we started eating and I started pulling it.

01:26:04.000 And it took like a half an hour to get like a fourth of a cup of wheat grains or whatever.

01:26:09.000 That's not an exaggeration.

01:26:10.000 And I was like, this is too much work.

01:26:11.000 Little red hint.

01:26:13.000 I don't want to do this.

01:26:13.000 There's a Russia joke in here somewhere.

01:26:15.000 I can't quite find it.

01:26:16.000 The point, though, is we were laughing at how difficult it was to, by hand, try and pull the grains.

01:26:25.000 And then we have a mortar and pestle, and the other day I was mashing it, and I'm like, this is nuts!

01:26:30.000 So we have a blender, and I threw the wheat into the blender on a low speed, and it instantly pulled everything apart.

01:26:38.000 And then you blow on it, and all the husk blows away.

01:26:41.000 And I was like, that took 10 seconds.

01:26:43.000 The blender.

01:26:44.000 Thank you, science.

01:26:45.000 But imagine if your entire day was dominated by just, if I'm gonna live, I gotta do this.

01:26:51.000 And you had no free time because you're just mashing grains and then eating what you get.

01:26:53.000 I can see how it would be rewarding because there's purpose in it. 0.97

01:26:56.000 Like if there was a big city of us and I had to be the guy that made the bread, I'm fucking down, man.

01:27:02.000 It feels rewarding to give and to know that people are gonna survive because of my work, whatever it is, more so than like, You know, hitting level 90 in Skyrim because no one, although it takes many, many more hours and it's more fun, you could even say it's not rewarding.

01:27:17.000 Like I turn the game off and it's not, no one is eating healthy now.

01:27:21.000 It's a dopamine hit, but it's not.

01:27:23.000 Tim, you say that would allow for no free time, but I think with that repetitive action, if that were the defining action of your life, it would end up being more of a meditative practice.

01:27:37.000 And people don't do that anymore because thinking makes them sad.

01:27:42.000 But also you'd be like Ian and I were hanging out.

01:27:45.000 Right.

01:27:46.000 And we're working on this thing together.

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:48.000 There's community.

01:27:49.000 You're good at that.

01:27:49.000 I'd see how you were doing it a little different and then I'd start to change mine.

01:27:53.000 And then not just that.

01:27:54.000 Friendly competition.

01:27:55.000 I would I would be you'd be you'd be handing me the wheat grains and be mashing them.

01:27:58.000 And I'd be like, oh, you see that bear?

01:28:00.000 That came over the other day.

01:28:01.000 And you know, it's like, you're like, I'm making a very bad hand.

01:28:03.000 You're removing yourself from the object of what you're doing.

01:28:08.000 And you get to build community.

01:28:10.000 And also, if you're doing it alone, it becomes a meditative practice.

01:28:15.000 I have a friend who moved from LA out to a farm in the middle of America.

01:28:19.000 He says it's the most rewarding thing he's ever done in his life.

01:28:21.000 I don't know if I'd feel that way, but some people are deeply satisfied.

01:28:25.000 Chickens are a lot of fun.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:26.000 I'm not big on like working to work, like running.

01:28:29.000 Some people run just to run and I'm not into that.

01:28:31.000 I like to run to get somewhere and I like to do it really well.

01:28:35.000 So if I'm making food because people need it, that's a whole other thing.

01:28:40.000 Yeah, I think we are in the dystopian future where we have all this luxury.

01:28:45.000 And so, what do you do?

01:28:47.000 You sit around all day, you play video games, you go to the grocery store, there's your Flamin' Hot Cheetos and your Mountain Dew, and it's just there!

01:28:54.000 And it's like, not that hard to get.

01:28:56.000 You don't gotta do that much work to live this well.

01:28:59.000 It's crazy.

01:29:00.000 You have people who come from South America, Central America to come to America and come to the United States and work for like 10 bucks an hour at like a fast food restaurant.

01:29:10.000 And you ask them why and they're like, I'm going to get 400 bucks this month, this week, man.

01:29:15.000 I was making like 40 bucks a week back home.

01:29:17.000 Wow.

01:29:17.000 I'll be able to save up and buy a gallon of milk.

01:29:20.000 And then, you know, Americans look at that like, that's, that's crazy.

01:29:23.000 Like you're not getting paid enough.

01:29:24.000 The rest of the world looks at it like, wow.

01:29:27.000 Yeah.

01:29:27.000 All you got to do is flip a burger and you can eat a burger.

01:29:32.000 That's crazy.

01:29:34.000 It is wild.

01:29:34.000 When I, when I worked in restaurants, when I was in college, the dishwashers who were Latin, Latin American always worked two full-time jobs and they would get off of the shift wherever I was at and go to their other job.

01:29:45.000 And we were all like, well, it had our minds blown by that.

01:29:47.000 And they were like, well, of course I work 16 hour days.

01:29:49.000 Why, why wouldn't I work to stay alive and send money to my family?

01:29:54.000 It would just, It's a completely different paradigm.

01:29:56.000 We just can't even relate to it.

01:29:57.000 Yeah, what do we have with Millennials, man? 0.99

01:30:00.000 Millennials are like, the government should give me free stuff. 1.00

01:30:02.000 I know.

01:30:04.000 I should sit around reading Harry Potter and the Handmaid's Tale and get money for it. 0.64

01:30:06.000 And a lot of them live in quote-unquote poverty, according to them.

01:30:10.000 But what really is, they have a smartphone, they have Netflix, they're in a studio apartment, and they're on unemployment, and they're on food stamps or whatever, but they're still getting groceries from the regular grocery store.

01:30:21.000 And it doesn't sound that bad.

01:30:23.000 I mean, if that's the baseline.

01:30:24.000 We've got this weird phenomenon in the U.S.

01:30:26.000 and around the world, too, where you can make money off of money that you already have investing banking.

01:30:32.000 So like the people that come here to work 16 hours, they don't think it's not about I can't wait to invest money.

01:30:38.000 When you have these Americans that are like, I'm going to get rich one day and invest in my 401k and then I don't have to work anymore. 0.79

01:30:43.000 Well, you work until the day you die, my man.

01:30:46.000 Yeah, I don't know how that 401k is doing now.

01:30:48.000 Yeah.

01:30:49.000 But let's preserve it.

01:30:49.000 Come on, man.

01:30:50.000 Let's preserve as much luxury as possible.

01:30:52.000 That's what I'm thinking because it's spreading around the world.

01:30:54.000 People, countries want, people want, they want to sit in air conditioning, they want running water, they want prosperity, they want fresh showers, they want good food.

01:31:01.000 So why don't we have it for everyone?

01:31:04.000 But I think it's fair to say clean water and air conditioning isn't necessarily luxury.

01:31:08.000 Climate control saves lives.

01:31:10.000 When the AC goes out, people die.

01:31:12.000 It's luxurious in a sense.

01:31:13.000 I get it.

01:31:14.000 I don't want to downplay that you don't need... Older people do. 1.00

01:31:17.000 When you have a heat wave, you see a lot of older people and a lot of babies die.

01:31:19.000 Because we're not used to living that way either.

01:31:21.000 Right.

01:31:22.000 So there are some things where it's like, okay, I think the double quarter pounder with extra, you know, sauce and a super fry and a liter of cola...

01:31:31.000 Maybe a little bit too much, huh?

01:31:33.000 Living off of that.

01:31:36.000 Certainly, I think there's a lot of luxuries.

01:31:38.000 Simpler life, in my opinion, is helpful to a lot of people.

01:31:42.000 But you know what?

01:31:43.000 I'm not necessarily... I'm not saying that luxury is bad and it shouldn't be allowed.

01:31:47.000 I'm saying there are some people who take it to a dark place.

01:31:49.000 Certainly, there are people who work really, really hard to earn their luxuries and are grateful.

01:31:53.000 And there are many people who meditate on or pray on the gifts they receive.

01:31:57.000 And there are a lot of people who demand they get more no matter how much they have.

01:32:02.000 Okay.

01:32:03.000 That's great.

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:03.000 I don't, I wouldn't, I don't think it's necessarily a person or another person that's like, this guy's greedy.

01:32:08.000 That guy's not, but people can, they can phase in and out of greed due to external circumstances being, you know, that's up for debate.

01:32:16.000 That would take an hour to even talk about.

01:32:19.000 Anyway, the whole point of that whole conversation, I guess, was that I think part of what the conflict is in this country is there are people who think they should get things from you or from the government.

01:32:28.000 Or like when we had this progressive on, and he kept saying the government should pay for it, the government should pay for it.

01:32:33.000 And I'm like, that comes from the taxpayer.

01:32:34.000 And he's like, no, it doesn't.

01:32:35.000 Dude, there's people that... Oh, what were you going to say?

01:32:38.000 It comes from me.

01:32:39.000 You specifically, you're the person with all the money and the government has to come to you for loans.

01:32:43.000 There's people that think that electricity is not a luxury.

01:32:45.000 Those people are the problem.

01:32:47.000 That state of mind is the problem.

01:32:49.000 Give thanks to the running water when you have it.

01:32:52.000 Last thing I'll say, just pull your kids out of public school. 1.00

01:32:55.000 Yes.

01:32:56.000 Home school your kids.

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01:33:16.000 Jeff sees his Pork Fest is happening now.

01:33:19.000 Oh, is it?

01:33:21.000 Yeah, this week.

01:33:22.000 Oh, cool.

01:33:22.000 That's where all the anarchists go up to New Hampshire and then fire flamethrowers and stuff, right?

01:33:27.000 And the libertarians.

01:33:28.000 And the libertarians.

01:33:29.000 There'll be a Mises tent. 0.99

01:33:31.000 Oh, yes.

01:33:32.000 All right.

01:33:33.000 Uh-oh.

01:33:33.000 What's this?

01:33:33.000 Audrey Daniel says, Danielle, why is Mises so bigoted and transphobic?

01:33:38.000 Join the LPPA.

01:33:40.000 LPPA.org.

01:33:41.000 Help free Philly.

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01:33:46.000 Is Mises bigoted and transphobic?

01:33:48.000 That's hilarious because she's one of our quote-unquote token trans members. 0.98

01:33:53.000 She's joking.

01:33:54.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:55.000 It's a joke.

01:33:56.000 She got an award from us, actually, for her Don't Tread on Philly activism.

01:34:00.000 She's fantastic.

01:34:02.000 All right.

01:34:05.000 Matthew Lucas says, Angela, tell Tim why he should come to LPVW convention next year.

01:34:10.000 WV.

01:34:11.000 WV, sorry.

01:34:13.000 Well, I did get to pet a porcupine and shoot machine guns in the snow at their state convention.

01:34:18.000 It was actually incredibly based.

01:34:21.000 And they had no infighting.

01:34:24.000 Their convention was delightful.

01:34:26.000 If they get large quantities of Dragon's Breath, 12 gauge, you know, I'm down for that.

01:34:32.000 You ever see that?

01:34:33.000 It's just like a shotgun full of magnesium.

01:34:35.000 So it just like sprays sparks.

01:34:36.000 I'm sure they could.

01:34:37.000 They have everything.

01:34:39.000 Excellent.

01:34:40.000 I think they had cannons.

01:34:42.000 Oh, wow.

01:34:42.000 I'll bring out my Barrett M82 and, you know, we'll hit stuff with it.

01:34:48.000 On the range.

01:34:49.000 Safely, of course.

01:34:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:52.000 All right.

01:34:53.000 Let's grab some more super charts.

01:34:56.000 C. Davis says, I'm afraid if we don't do something soon, there may not be anything left to save.

01:35:01.000 You can't do this many things wrong to the country on accident.

01:35:05.000 I got to wonder about that too.

01:35:07.000 Like, that's what I was making the point about the swattings we've dealt with and the threats. 0.98

01:35:13.000 Like at a certain point, people just lose confidence in law enforcement when they're like, how does this keep happening?

01:35:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:18.000 Well, I mean, that's why you got to get your own gun.

01:35:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:22.000 I don't trust the law enforcement at all to do anything.

01:35:25.000 And I know a few ex-police officers who are libertarian and pretty nice guys.

01:35:31.000 But they're the exception, not the rule.

01:35:32.000 It's just it's bureaucracy, but with guns.

01:35:35.000 There's a, I posted this video I saw on Reddit.

01:35:37.000 It was a couple, I think Norwegian young men were shot multiple times by some random dudes and they called their version of 911 and the lady didn't believe them.

01:35:47.000 He was like, help, we're dying, my friend's dying.

01:35:50.000 And she was like, what happened?

01:35:51.000 And he's like, they shot me.

01:35:52.000 And where?

01:35:52.000 And he's like, my shoulder, my stomach and my head.

01:35:54.000 And she goes, if you were shot in the head, how are you talking?

01:35:57.000 It's like, wow, they stepped.

01:35:59.000 I was at a shooting at a Thai restaurant in Hollywood.

01:36:01.000 They stepped over my waitress slash friend as she was dying and walked into the restaurant looking around just stepped right over her body.

01:36:10.000 Brutal man.

01:36:11.000 Brutal.

01:36:12.000 All right.

01:36:13.000 Michael Fernando Melo says, Loving the show, TimCast crew.

01:36:17.000 The Libertarian Party is in good hands with Angela, Dave Smith and the rest of the Mises caucus.

01:36:21.000 Is Dave running for president?

01:36:23.000 He hasn't announced officially that he is running for president.

01:36:26.000 He just keeps talking about what he would do if he was officially running for president.

01:36:30.000 Michael Malice, press secretary.

01:36:31.000 Oh, man, that would be the best.

01:36:34.000 That might become a thing.

01:36:35.000 I hope so.

01:36:36.000 I hope so.

01:36:38.000 Yeah, we'll see, man.

01:36:40.000 What are your plans with the party in the short term?

01:36:43.000 Well, we've been doing some aggressive overhaul of our messaging, strategic planning, putting together, I don't know, actual plans for our long-term and short-term future, trying to rework how we tackle ballot access things.

01:36:56.000 You know, I'd like to see us do more lobbying instead of petitioning.

01:37:00.000 We're just basically, it's a 50-year startup that I'm coming in, basically, like it's a startup.

01:37:06.000 Wow.

01:37:06.000 It's a lot of work and it is awesome and I love it.

01:37:10.000 All right.

01:37:12.000 Jay Bobia says, Hey Tim, long time listener.

01:37:14.000 Do you think that the Republicans, if they gained the presidency in Congress in 2024, could use the Communist Control Act of 1954?

01:37:20.000 No.

01:37:20.000 What do you think?

01:37:24.000 No.

01:37:24.000 I don't think so.

01:37:26.000 Um, cultural enforcement is more powerful than law.

01:37:28.000 Absolutely.

01:37:29.000 At this point.

01:37:29.000 So, um, Josie, the redhead, redheaded libertarian often points out that the 1964 Civil Rights Act excludes communists from civil rights protections.

01:37:37.000 Did you know that?

01:37:39.000 I don't believe I've picked up on that.

01:37:42.000 I'm like, was that amended?

01:37:43.000 Did they change that?

01:37:44.000 Because it's in there.

01:37:44.000 I read it.

01:37:45.000 The 1964 Civil Rights Act says, like, this bill will not be construed to protect those who are communists or members of communist organizations or something like that.

01:37:52.000 When was McCarthyism over?

01:37:54.000 Don't know.

01:37:56.000 Okay.

01:37:56.000 Probably the day he died.

01:37:57.000 When he could die.

01:37:58.000 No, I mean, there were policies like that in place.

01:38:01.000 The Red Scare.

01:38:02.000 Interesting.

01:38:03.000 Yeah.

01:38:05.000 Joseph von Wagner says be based join the LP at LP org.

01:38:09.000 Oh, well, there you go Ryan's reaction says I was here before the Civil War.

01:38:14.000 Hi mom.

01:38:15.000 Well, alright All right.

01:38:19.000 SharkBiteBiz says, special shout out to Angela from David Strosser.

01:38:25.000 Angela will be SharkBiteBiz season four finale next Monday on YouTube and Rumble. 1.00

01:38:32.000 Keep up the good work, Angela.

01:38:33.000 Rock on.

01:38:33.000 We need more people like you.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, he's really awesome, dude.

01:38:36.000 Looking forward to it.

01:38:37.000 What is it?

01:38:38.000 I'm going on his podcast next week.

01:38:40.000 Oh, cool.

01:38:41.000 It's less libertarian politics and more about policy and industry and how government, you know, ruins those things for us all.

01:38:50.000 All right, Travis Bost says, the LP of the Eastern Panhandle would love a shout out or even a visit, meeting this Wednesday at the Ladder House in Martinsburg, and also our LPEP convention on 7-16.

01:39:04.000 This Wednesday.

01:39:05.000 Unfortunately for me, I work 16-hour days, and then this weekend we're going to New York for the Festival of Minds Festival.

01:39:10.000 It's Festival of Minds.

01:39:11.000 Festival.minds.com.

01:39:12.000 That's it.

01:39:13.000 Yeah.

01:39:14.000 Hope to see everybody there.

01:39:15.000 Minds Festival of Ideas.

01:39:16.000 Festival Ideas.

01:39:16.000 There you go.

01:39:16.000 Check it out.

01:39:18.000 Festival Ideas in New York City is gonna be epic.

01:39:21.000 Tulsi Gabbard, James O'Keefe, me.

01:39:23.000 It's gonna be a lot of fun.

01:39:24.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 Was it festival.minds.com?

01:39:26.000 That's it.

01:39:28.000 We got a whole bunch of people saying Dave Smith 2024.

01:39:30.000 Jake Moore says, Hey, Angela McArdle, you the real MVP. 0.87

01:39:33.000 Can't wait to see you what see what our party will become under your leadership.

01:39:37.000 Also Dave Smith 2024.

01:39:39.000 It's happening.

01:39:41.000 It is happening.

01:39:41.000 It's happening unofficially.

01:39:44.000 unofficially because no exploratory committee has been launched yet to my knowledge.

01:39:47.000 So it is unofficially happening.

01:39:49.000 Well, all right.

01:39:50.000 All right.

01:39:50.000 I look forward to it.

01:39:52.000 That'll be fun.

01:39:53.000 And then as soon as we pulled up the, um, then we have a bunch of super chats because as soon as we pulled up the one display on the screen, it shut the mics off.

01:40:01.000 So there's a bunch of people saying no audio.

01:40:04.000 No, of course.

01:40:05.000 Thanks for the super chats telling us there was no audio.

01:40:08.000 All right.

01:40:08.000 Dark Horizon says, it's really funny to see everyone's faces react to what Tim is saying when nobody on stream can hear Tim.

01:40:14.000 I wonder what that was like.

01:40:14.000 It's a secret.

01:40:16.000 Well, we can watch it.

01:40:16.000 I don't know.

01:40:17.000 It's going to be two minutes, I think, of dead air, so maybe we'll have to... I don't think we can do anything about that.

01:40:21.000 I'll see what I can do.

01:40:22.000 I don't think so.

01:40:23.000 I don't think so.

01:40:25.000 Well, we started reading it again, so I'm probably, for the podcast, I'm just going to go ahead and take it out.

01:40:29.000 For the podcast version.

01:40:30.000 I don't think YouTube allows you to trim stuff.

01:40:32.000 They do.

01:40:32.000 It takes a really, really long time to process a podcast.

01:40:35.000 On the live stream they allow it?

01:40:37.000 We've done it before.

01:40:37.000 Really?

01:40:38.000 Because I know we had that problem before where they were like, we couldn't take it out of the live stream version.

01:40:42.000 Yeah, we had to trim something one time and we made it happen.

01:40:45.000 It just took hours.

01:40:46.000 It took forever.

01:40:47.000 Oh yeah, it takes like three days.

01:40:48.000 It took a long time, yeah.

01:40:50.000 Michael Heiss says, Tim, would you support a Dave Smith-Kennedy for president with Michael Maus as press secretary?

01:40:55.000 Yes, 100%.

01:40:55.000 Absolutely.

01:40:58.000 Yeah.

01:41:00.000 The challenge here is always the practical versus the realistic versus the idealistic.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:07.000 If Trump was running against some awful Democrat, I'm like, Trump's not that bad.

01:41:12.000 However, if Dave Smith's running, then I would like to see a Dave Smith presidency with a Michael Mills press secretary.

01:41:20.000 I would like to see it.

01:41:22.000 I would support that to a great deal.

01:41:24.000 I want, I want to be promoting that from the Libertarian Party.

01:41:28.000 I want you to go to LP.org and you just see that everywhere.

01:41:31.000 I just want that.

01:41:32.000 That's going to be so good.

01:41:34.000 I want to see Michael Malice sitting down with like, I don't know, Meet the Press.

01:41:39.000 Yes.

01:41:40.000 Yes.

01:41:40.000 It's going to be so amazing.

01:41:41.000 I want to see him on Good Morning America.

01:41:43.000 Joy Behar on The View.

01:41:44.000 That's where he belongs.

01:41:46.000 What are they going to do?

01:41:47.000 They like, they have to.

01:41:49.000 It's the LP.

01:41:49.000 It's like big enough to where they have to cover it.

01:41:51.000 They will cover it.

01:41:52.000 Dude, Dave Smith's the only one talking about Yemen, man.

01:41:55.000 And what a horrific atrocity is passively being caused there by the American government.

01:42:01.000 We are about to launch an awareness campaign through the National Libertarian Party on Yemen.

01:42:06.000 We're also going to be doing something on inflation and Bitcoin.

01:42:09.000 But Yemen is coming up this week.

01:42:12.000 Gone false as I do not want a civil war.

01:42:14.000 But these Democrats have been suppressing us, our opinions, our thoughts.

01:42:17.000 They hate us.

01:42:17.000 They want us gone.

01:42:18.000 They do not share our American culture and morals any longer.

01:42:21.000 People tend to rebel.

01:42:23.000 But they're not American, dude. 0.97

01:42:24.000 Don't get surprised.

01:42:26.000 This is what's funny when, like, you hear them say all the time, like, our democracy is in danger.

01:42:30.000 And I'm like, no, they mean it.

01:42:32.000 They do.

01:42:32.000 They mean their democracy, not our constitutional republic.

01:42:35.000 They've been building their democracy.

01:42:37.000 We live in a constitutional republic, and the democracy is threatening our constitutional republic, and so we're like, that's bad, and their democracy is losing, and so they're like, our democracy.

01:42:46.000 Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on who's for dinner.

01:42:50.000 I hate democracy.

01:42:52.000 You can quote me on that, everyone.

01:42:54.000 Libertarian party.

01:42:55.000 Not a fan of democracy.

01:42:56.000 A republic is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

01:42:58.000 That's right.

01:43:00.000 All right.

01:43:02.000 Joseph Von Wagener says, live in PA, be based, and join the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania now at lppa.org.

01:43:08.000 Look at all these ads for the Libertarian Party popping up throughout this.

01:43:11.000 The Pennsylvania Party is incredibly based.

01:43:14.000 Yeah?

01:43:14.000 They are really good.

01:43:15.000 Love them.

01:43:17.000 All right.

01:43:18.000 Joshua Clark says, the most basic question is not what is best, but who should decide what is best?

01:43:23.000 Dr. Sowell.

01:43:24.000 Libertarians believe you should decide what's best for your life.

01:43:26.000 Join us if you believe in all freedom for all people.

01:43:30.000 Lp.org.

01:43:32.000 Is everybody just shouting out LP.org?

01:43:34.000 I thought we were going to get a lot more shoutouts for the Mises Caucus.

01:43:39.000 Corey Tallman says, the Republicans sold you out with red flag laws.

01:43:42.000 The Democrats think the economy is doing great.

01:43:44.000 The Libertarian Party is the only party that cares about freedom.

01:43:48.000 And then join the LP.org and join the Mises Caucus.

01:43:50.000 A lot of super chats here.

01:43:51.000 Okay, there you go.

01:43:52.000 Well, I will tell you that that is true.

01:43:54.000 And unfortunately, even Ron DeSantis has not got a good track record on red flag laws.

01:43:58.000 So that is something I 1000% oppose.

01:44:01.000 19 states already have it.

01:44:03.000 You've got a bunch of Republicans signing on for gun control.

01:44:06.000 The establishment is the establishment.

01:44:08.000 The uniparty is the uniparty.

01:44:09.000 The Trumpians may have got in and made some big changes, but they resisted.

01:44:15.000 They sabotaged Trump in a lot of ways.

01:44:17.000 He made that mistake, man.

01:44:20.000 All right, let's jump down and grab a bunch of superchats.

01:44:24.000 Tim McDonough says, Ian, I'm glad you're back.

01:44:26.000 I wanted to recommend a book called Beautiful Outlaw by John Eldridge.

01:44:30.000 It really changed my view on religion.

01:44:32.000 It gave me permission to be a real man and a Christian. 0.99

01:44:35.000 Jesus was a prankster and a gangster.

01:44:37.000 Keep a pushing team. 0.98

01:44:38.000 Oh, interesting.

01:44:39.000 Nice.

01:44:41.000 All right.

01:44:43.000 Waffle Sensei says, we were victorious in the World War because we were half a globe away and didn't join the war until the very end.

01:44:51.000 Now the one target every other world power is watching to fall is America.

01:44:56.000 We need to all be smarter.

01:44:59.000 Yeah, definitely, man.

01:45:01.000 Jameson says, did you see Joe falling off his bike?

01:45:03.000 Nice to see him finally learning leaning right in something.

01:45:06.000 That was a good one.

01:45:09.000 Yeah, he fell because he had clips on the pedals.

01:45:12.000 And so when he took his left foot out, he started to lean to his right, take his right foot out, but he got caught in the clip and fell forward.

01:45:19.000 Because it was weird to watch.

01:45:21.000 He stopped and then he just... His foot got stuck in the pedal clip.

01:45:25.000 Joe Biden?

01:45:25.000 Joe Biden, yeah.

01:45:26.000 Oh, man.

01:45:26.000 Yeah.

01:45:27.000 Did anyone rush to catch him?

01:45:29.000 No.

01:45:29.000 Oh, they just watched it happen, though?

01:45:30.000 It was like the meme come to life.

01:45:33.000 The bike meme.

01:45:34.000 The bike meme come to life.

01:45:37.000 Oh, man.

01:45:39.000 Mr. Obvious says, people keep saying that if the union shatters, it will cause a civil war.

01:45:43.000 But if the union doesn't shatter, it will also cause a civil war.

01:45:47.000 I fear that we cannot coexist at this point.

01:45:49.000 Something has to give.

01:45:51.000 Good observation.

01:45:52.000 So over the past 12 years or 14 or 15 years, the country was split in two a long time ago and they're getting so far away from each other.

01:46:00.000 There's no bringing it back together.

01:46:02.000 I'd rather take the risk and secede.

01:46:04.000 Try to do it as peacefully as possible.

01:46:07.000 You don't know until you try.

01:46:08.000 Maybe negotiations to some degree.

01:46:10.000 I mean, what about just like heavy federalism and the state's rights and all that stuff?

01:46:14.000 Yeah, I would take it.

01:46:15.000 Anything in that direction, I'd take it.

01:46:18.000 Yeah, I fear that it's not the direction we're going.

01:46:21.000 No, there's no point in fighting ourselves inward.

01:46:24.000 It's multinational, it's these megacorps that are trying to buy the world.

01:46:29.000 That is the issue to focus on.

01:46:33.000 Remember settle for Biden?

01:46:35.000 Remember that being a thing?

01:46:36.000 I'd settle for federalism.

01:46:39.000 Kane the fourth says Tim's ad runs are hilarious.

01:46:42.000 Elon has a dispute with Texas.

01:46:44.000 Elon has a dispute with Texas lawyers.

01:46:45.000 Tim, you know where I like to get my meat?

01:46:48.000 So we, we have ads that appear on the podcast and some people point out that there's like some, it just jumps to the ad sometimes.

01:46:53.000 So like, you know, it'll be funny.

01:46:55.000 Let me, me saying something like there's a major lawsuit happening right now with Elon Musk and I purchased my meat from moinkbox.com.

01:47:01.000 I think it's funny.

01:47:03.000 Free shout out.

01:47:04.000 Yeah.

01:47:04.000 Free shout out guys.

01:47:06.000 Clayton Pajunas said, I'm a Mises Caucus member and the Libertarian Candidate for Congress in NJ-07.

01:47:12.000 I decided to be the change I want to see.

01:47:15.000 Check out ClaytonForCongress.com.

01:47:17.000 I would love to see some Libertarians win congressional seats.

01:47:21.000 We're working on that, but the way that it's got to really play out is we've got to make that a long-term goal.

01:47:27.000 We've got to focus on winning local elections right now.

01:47:31.000 You still got to run people at the national level because that's how you get the name recognition, but the bulk of our attention needs to be on localization and grassroots so that we can stack political capital, gain experience, and then start moving up.

01:47:43.000 Is there any value to politicians that are already in office switching their party?

01:47:46.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 And one of the things that I'd like to do is try to convince people to switch on their last term, whether they're terming themselves out or they're moving on to something else.

01:47:54.000 Like if you could switch their last six months to libertarian, I think that would be really good for us.

01:47:59.000 All right.

01:48:00.000 David Robinson says, those saying civil war will never happen have normalcy bias.

01:48:04.000 Those who think it will have quote, when will something interesting happen bias?

01:48:08.000 When are you guys having Justin Amash on?

01:48:11.000 I was very critical of him several years ago, but I'm definitely interested in having him on to talk about all this stuff.

01:48:17.000 Cause I don't even remember what the issues were several years ago.

01:48:20.000 It was something about him coming out and just impeding Trump and a bunch of stuff like that.

01:48:24.000 Really good insight on being a congressman.

01:48:27.000 He can provide that.

01:48:29.000 A little bit of the TDS.

01:48:32.000 Right.

01:48:33.000 But still worth it.

01:48:34.000 That was basically it.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, still worth the conversation.

01:48:36.000 I think the issue was, and it's been a long time, that I didn't feel it was genuine.

01:48:39.000 That it was just like, TDS, now I'm going to be a libertarian because, and I'm like, oh man, I don't know about that.

01:48:45.000 But I'm, you know, like I was critical of Thomas Massey and he turned out to be right.

01:48:48.000 So I'll eat that one.

01:48:49.000 And then we had him on the show and he was fantastic.

01:48:51.000 Yeah.

01:48:52.000 So, you know, it is what it is.

01:48:54.000 All right.

01:48:55.000 What do we got?

01:48:56.000 Prince Namor says Jaws.

01:48:58.000 Oh, hey, Jaws is 47 years old today.

01:49:01.000 Happy birthday, Jaws.

01:49:04.000 Happy birthday to my friend Gary's son, whose name I can't remember.

01:49:07.000 It's his birthday.

01:49:08.000 Gary's son!

01:49:09.000 Clint Torres says, Mary, so miss watching y'all live, but I'm out of the country on business.

01:49:14.000 Trying to keep up, but it's not the same.

01:49:16.000 Happy to see you here, though.

01:49:17.000 Love everything Timcast.

01:49:19.000 Oh, appreciate it.

01:49:19.000 He makes it rain on Pop Culture Crisis all the time.

01:49:23.000 Oh, does he?

01:49:23.000 Yeah.

01:49:24.000 So, for those that don't know, on Pop Culture Crisis, it's live, what, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m.?

01:49:29.000 Yeah, 3 p.m.

01:49:29.000 Eastern Time and noon Pacific Time if you're on Angela's side of the country.

01:49:34.000 If you super chat, money guns fire money into the air.

01:49:37.000 It's very distracting.

01:49:39.000 And then after like a hundred bucks or something, the sirens go off and then it makes it rain and it's like, and sprays everybody's money.

01:49:46.000 It's a crisis party.

01:49:47.000 A crisis party.

01:49:48.000 We have fun over there.

01:49:48.000 I'm going to tell all the libertarians to start super chatting that.

01:49:51.000 They're going to love that.

01:49:52.000 Shameless plug, go subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube right now.

01:49:56.000 Dude, I was on it last week.

01:49:57.000 It was a week before last.

01:49:59.000 We talked about Ezra Klein.

01:50:01.000 Ezra Miller.

01:50:02.000 Ezra Klein is a different guy.

01:50:04.000 I don't know a lot of Ezras.

01:50:05.000 Better than Ezra.

01:50:06.000 Dude, that story was nuts.

01:50:08.000 It got crazier.

01:50:09.000 Ezra Miller, this story is insane.

01:50:12.000 I watched the show, but we didn't talk about it.

01:50:13.000 We talked about it today, actually.

01:50:14.000 It never ends, my gosh.

01:50:16.000 But like, Ian got sprayed with money and it went in his coffee.

01:50:19.000 Yeah, one of the bills flew through the air and then went right in.

01:50:23.000 So there's like a meter that fills up and once it hits, it's like... Yeah, we've got a crisis meter.

01:50:27.000 We're just chickens.

01:50:28.000 We were talking about it and people were like, what if Timcast IRL did something?

01:50:32.000 And I was like, we're like a serious primetime show.

01:50:35.000 It'd be like really weird if we were spraying money guns at each other.

01:50:37.000 Although we have before.

01:50:38.000 Yeah.

01:50:39.000 It's definitely lighter material than what you get on IRL.

01:50:43.000 So, you know, if, if talking about pop culture also like makes you feel like you're losing your mind a little bit, then I think it's someplace that you can feel like you're normal.

01:50:52.000 Yeah.

01:50:53.000 It makes us go crazy too.

01:50:54.000 It does.

01:50:55.000 I'm someone that completely avoids it, but being able to talk about it with people that know what they're talking about is really invigorating.

01:51:00.000 I just want a money gun.

01:51:01.000 I'm really into this.

01:51:03.000 Yeah, dude, come on!

01:51:05.000 Alright, 2076 says, watching live at Porkfest.

01:51:07.000 Looking forward to tomorrow 3pm.

01:51:10.000 We have a panel on secession.

01:51:11.000 Live free and thrive.

01:51:13.000 NPLPNH was the first state to vote on secession.

01:51:17.000 Article 10 at New Hampshire Constitution.

01:51:19.000 There you go.

01:51:20.000 Yeah, New Hampshire is doing incredible work.

01:51:23.000 The Free State Project and the Libertarian Party used to be at odds.

01:51:26.000 Really?

01:51:27.000 Well, I mean, I've disclosed a little bit that their wokeism had infiltrated the LP, and so as that has been on its way out, now the Libertarian Party and Free State Project are best friends again, as they should be.

01:51:40.000 Cool.

01:51:42.000 All right.

01:51:42.000 Nightmare Ghostify says, Tim, I moved to Austin, Texas this year from another Texas city.

01:51:47.000 Companies are moving people from Cali and the cult types are coming with them.

01:51:51.000 That's city urban liberal types.

01:51:53.000 They still think blue no matter who.

01:51:56.000 No questioning Dem failures.

01:51:59.000 Oof.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, so when people were like, go to Texas, I was like, I don't know about that.

01:52:03.000 Oh, well, it could end up flipping blue.

01:52:05.000 I really hope not because that is... Imagine being in Texas and it flips blue and you're like, I built a business here and moved from California.

01:52:12.000 I would have another worldview imploding.

01:52:15.000 But the Rio Grande Valley, man, looking at what's happening with the Hispanic community, voting Republican, I think it's actually probably pulling the other direction.

01:52:24.000 Plus, with people like Joe Rogan or Michael Malice moving down there, I think it's going to be red. 1.00

01:52:31.000 I'm moving down there in a couple months.

01:52:32.000 There you go.

01:52:34.000 What's the libertarian, the libertarian party is yellow, right?

01:52:36.000 Yeah.

01:52:36.000 Gold.

01:52:37.000 Gold.

01:52:37.000 There you go.

01:52:38.000 Golden black.

01:52:39.000 Yep.

01:52:39.000 That's my high school colors.

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 Oh yeah.

01:52:42.000 If we're in a simulation, which we might be, those are my high school colors.

01:52:44.000 I think there's something to it.

01:52:46.000 My problem with libertarianism is that the freedom idea of freedom, I feel like we've created kind of a prison that we live within that protects us to be free within the prison.

01:52:54.000 And without the external prison force of the U.S.

01:52:56.000 military, we're not, we might think we're free, but if the bombs start dropping, no one will, will protect us.

01:53:01.000 Cut those prison bars, Ian.

01:53:04.000 Come over to freedom.

01:53:07.000 I totally understand people's concerns about military might and foreign empires.

01:53:11.000 I don't think that military defense would collapse if we were more libertarian.

01:53:15.000 I think we would just bring our troops home so that we wouldn't have entangling alliances all over the world.

01:53:20.000 And we would probably have a much more robust defense system.

01:53:24.000 What about the problem when, if you're fortified and entrenched in one area that everyone knows where you are, they can organize around you and coordinate an attack?

01:53:32.000 Well, we still have nuclear power.

01:53:35.000 No one wants to see nuclear world war.

01:53:37.000 That would be horrible.

01:53:39.000 Yep.

01:53:40.000 An armed society is a polite society, and that goes the same globally.

01:53:44.000 Oh yeah.

01:53:45.000 Synthetic Greed says, Hey Tim, I was wondering if the event you are going to on the 25th will have any sort of recording or VOD available?

01:53:52.000 Love you guys and keep up the great work!

01:53:53.000 What is it?

01:53:54.000 Festival.minds.com?

01:53:56.000 That's it.

01:53:56.000 There are streaming tickets, I believe, right?

01:53:58.000 Yeah!

01:53:59.000 You can watch it live, actually, I believe.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:01.000 That'll be fun.

01:54:03.000 Y'all should come out if you can in New York, because we're going to be in New York City, and it's a big theater.

01:54:08.000 It's going to be massive.

01:54:09.000 This is crazy.

01:54:10.000 I can't believe it.

01:54:11.000 It's at the Beacon.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, it's at the Beacon.

01:54:12.000 And it's a mix of left and right.

01:54:15.000 There's actually a free ticket request form for people that are in New York City or close to the area.

01:54:22.000 It's at festival.minds.com.

01:54:24.000 I mean, we are packing this place.

01:54:26.000 Get a ticket.

01:54:27.000 I know times have been hard for a lot of people financially, which is like we, uh, Bill had booked the event before COVID, like a year before COVID.

01:54:33.000 And then COVID was like, hello, economy.

01:54:36.000 And so now people are like, yeah, I don't know.

01:54:38.000 75 bucks is a lot to go to New York city to get a hotel, but they're free ticket request form too.

01:54:43.000 So check out this free ticket request form at festival.minds.com.

01:54:46.000 Alright, Mina Misnoen says, This is civil war, collapse, the death of God, loss of faith in man, culture, God, etc., and many things recurring at once, setting the stage for what's to come.

01:54:58.000 My philosophy website, BezaBezar.com Yeah.

01:55:03.000 You know, looking at the food crisis, the fuel crisis, the Ukraine-Russia war and civil war, I'm like, everything's sort of happening all at once.

01:55:12.000 It's everything, everywhere, all at once.

01:55:14.000 Is that a movie?

01:55:16.000 No, I didn't.

01:55:17.000 That was a good movie.

01:55:17.000 I heard bad things about it, actually.

01:55:19.000 I loved it.

01:55:20.000 I thought it was good.

01:55:21.000 But anyway, it's like all of this is happening all at the same time, and it feels like the end result is going to be from the ashes of the old, we will build a new.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, I worry about a rise in fervent nationalism because that is not going to be a long-term solution.

01:55:34.000 Because that is not good for our private industry either and it's not good for individual rights.

01:55:38.000 Yeah, that's what happened in Hitler's Germany as the nationalist psychopathy took over. 0.56

01:55:43.000 They came in and took over.

01:55:44.000 There was all the quote-unquote degeneracy and, you know, people not having jobs and civil unrest, discontent, started blaming certain people.

01:55:53.000 Not a good scene.

01:55:54.000 David C. Cronk Sr.

01:55:55.000 says, I love it.

01:55:56.000 Tim says, where do you get the energy?

01:55:58.000 Ian basically replies, just build a perpetual motion machine.

01:56:01.000 Love you guys.

01:56:02.000 Hey, fusion's not perpetual motion.

01:56:03.000 It's just really slow.

01:56:04.000 You're like, we'll extract the salt from the water to create the energy to extract the salt from the water.

01:56:09.000 Well, in addition to the sunlight, which is bouncing off the mirrors.

01:56:12.000 That's true.

01:56:15.000 All right.

01:56:15.000 Ari Jacobson says, I A-U-E-D Lorenz, New York Times for... Oh, sued.

01:56:21.000 It's the typo.

01:56:23.000 I sued Lorenz, New York Times for defamation.

01:56:25.000 I'm a woman, not rich, not famous, not white, not guilty of the crimes Taylor published.

01:56:28.000 If my case is dismissed, MSM darlings keep lying with impunity. 1.00

01:56:32.000 Truth matters.

01:56:33.000 Hold them accountable, Tim.

01:56:35.000 So that's at little miss Jacob.

01:56:37.000 I'm gonna write that down.

01:56:38.000 I want to take a look at that.

01:56:39.000 Yeah.

01:56:39.000 Good luck with your lawsuit.

01:56:42.000 I am writing.

01:56:45.000 Right-tang.

01:56:46.000 Write that down.

01:56:47.000 And I'll take a look.

01:56:48.000 Little Miss Jacob.

01:56:49.000 Is that on Twitter, I'm assuming?

01:56:51.000 Must be.

01:56:52.000 She defamed you? 0.98

01:56:54.000 Interesting.

01:56:55.000 Oh, there's the correction.

01:56:56.000 I sued Taylor Lorenz and the New York Times for defamation.

01:56:58.000 I would love to hear about that.

01:57:02.000 All right.

01:57:03.000 The Happy Holistic says, Tim, I have a new anti-woke sitcom script for you or Daily Wire called The Whites.

01:57:08.000 Script for pilot is available on Amazon.

01:57:11.000 Wrecked by your former guest Dave Rehboy.

01:57:15.000 Contact info is on Amazon page.

01:57:17.000 I love that.

01:57:17.000 We have a joke.

01:57:18.000 I'm going to spoil it, but we were talking with Jamie Kilstein, who's going to be helping put together the jokes for the vlog.

01:57:24.000 And his bit is kind of like the only place that would hire him, because he's like a progressive, is TimCast, because he got cancelled.

01:57:30.000 And then I said, well, it's either this or The Daily Wire.

01:57:33.000 So that's like a running joke, is the only place you can get hired at if you're cancelled is like here or The Daily Wire.

01:57:39.000 Gina Carano's back! 1.00

01:57:40.000 I hope you guys checked out that movie.

01:57:42.000 I'm gonna say this, because I love the Daily Wire guys.

01:57:45.000 I have had a hard time trying to watch it.

01:57:47.000 I've been trying so hard to watch their movies.

01:57:48.000 I haven't seen them yet.

01:57:49.000 I need to.

01:57:50.000 They gotta get the smart TV apps up.

01:57:52.000 Okay.

01:57:52.000 Oh.

01:57:53.000 Yeah.

01:57:53.000 Oh, you're right.

01:57:54.000 Because they would get way more viewership and membership if they had Sony and LG.

01:57:59.000 Yep.

01:58:00.000 Because we have Sony TV and LG TV, and I pull up the apps and I can't get the Daily Wire, so we tried doing, you know, casting from the phone and stuff, and I'm like, man.

01:58:07.000 So it's only on their website?

01:58:09.000 Or their app.

01:58:10.000 So it's like Apple, Roku, Chromecast.

01:58:13.000 Because we've been wanting to review Terror on the Prairie.

01:58:16.000 You can get it on Roku?

01:58:17.000 Yeah.

01:58:18.000 Okay.

01:58:18.000 You have to have a membership to the site, which we do, so we can use that.

01:58:22.000 Streaming service.

01:58:23.000 It's just that I have an LG TV, so I've got all of the apps on it, like YouTube TV and stuff, but I can't get Daily Wire.

01:58:30.000 So I told this to Jeremy, I was like, get your TV apps, man.

01:58:34.000 Cause like, we will watch all of this stuff.

01:58:35.000 We'll turn on Ben Shapiro and everything too.

01:58:38.000 Or we just, you know, cause I can't watch the movies.

01:58:41.000 We'll have to, it's just, meh.

01:58:43.000 Figure it out.

01:58:44.000 But you know what, man?

01:58:45.000 They're coming up and I'm really excited to see it.

01:58:46.000 Super excited for Terror on the Prairie.

01:58:48.000 That's awesome.

01:58:49.000 Looking forward to watching it.

01:58:52.000 All right.

01:58:53.000 ChoiceMusic says, Ian, I believe we actually have what is what is called willful destiny.

01:58:59.000 Yes, we have will, yet outside influences, whether you're religious or secular,

01:59:03.000 guide our choices, such as God and Pharaoh in Exodus, God hardened his heart, or survival and

01:59:09.000 or cowardice. That's for sure. Like, we're We're bound by outside forces that we need to eat to survive, but we have free will to not eat.

01:59:18.000 There are people that just choose not to and they die.

01:59:20.000 So you do have free will, even though there are external forces.

01:59:24.000 I like it.

01:59:26.000 A Green Clover says, Ian, to the response of libertarians that live far away.

01:59:30.000 And Rohan will answer.

01:59:31.000 There you go.

01:59:34.000 That's trust.

01:59:35.000 That's faith in a system.

01:59:37.000 Well, it's faith and trust in other individuals that you've developed relationships with.

01:59:41.000 Very important.

01:59:43.000 Matt says, huge thanks to Angela for motivating us in Nebraska.

01:59:47.000 Join us in supporting her leadership, lp.org and lpne.org.

01:59:51.000 Based Me Caucus.

01:59:53.000 Right on.

01:59:55.000 Hearing good things.

01:59:55.000 It's crazy.

01:59:56.000 I mean, it's been like kind of rapid rise for the Mises Caucus, right?

01:59:58.000 Well, it's taken about five years.

02:00:00.000 Feels kind of rapid.

02:00:02.000 I know, right?

02:00:03.000 Well, it started in the summer of 2017.

02:00:06.000 I got involved within a couple months, basically, as soon as I heard about it.

02:00:10.000 I was already active in the party, by the way, and I'd already run for Congress, but I was like, well, this is really what I care about.

02:00:15.000 This is the thing.

02:00:17.000 This is what it's supposed to look like.

02:00:18.000 And I said, you know, in 2018, I was like, that was kind of rough.

02:00:21.000 We didn't win at convention.

02:00:22.000 Maybe in four years, I'll run for chair.

02:00:24.000 I work really hard, study, do everything I can.

02:00:27.000 Here you are.

02:00:28.000 What is it about the Mises caucus that stands out?

02:00:32.000 We want to make the Libertarian Party more welcoming to libertarians.

02:00:35.000 There is a much larger liberty movement and the Libertarian Party has historically in the last 20 years especially rejected it and gone more centrist moderate and over the last five years like very woke and begging for mainstream appeal.

02:00:51.000 Remember who was the candidate last time?

02:00:54.000 The presidential candidate?

02:00:56.000 Oh, Gary Johnson?

02:00:57.000 Or Joe Jorgensen?

02:00:58.000 Joe Jorgensen.

02:00:59.000 And she said, you know, what did she say?

02:01:01.000 It's not enough to be not racist.

02:01:03.000 We must be actively anti-racist.

02:01:04.000 I just thought it was funny that the Libertarian Party telling us what we must do.

02:01:06.000 It was painful.

02:01:08.000 It was painful.

02:01:09.000 I love Joe.

02:01:10.000 She's a sweet lady. 0.73

02:01:12.000 I would say that she got some very bad messaging campaign advice.

02:01:16.000 Here's a very important one.

02:01:17.000 We'll get one more in here.

02:01:19.000 Free men die free.

02:01:20.000 Say, hey Angela, persuade Tim for an episode with Ron Paul.

02:01:23.000 Tim's show is a great platform to spread the same message we all learned, Ron's time is ticking.

02:01:29.000 Dr. Paul has an open invite to come on the show whenever he wants.

02:01:33.000 We are big fans of Ron Paul.

02:01:35.000 We had a Christmas tree, this is almost two and a half years ago, and Luke Rutkowski put a picture of Ron Paul on top and he said, I couldn't decide between a star or an angel, so I chose both.

02:01:44.000 Nice.

02:01:45.000 And then afterwards, he just stuck the picture of Ron Paul on one of the doors in the house.

02:01:49.000 It's there right now.

02:01:50.000 It's been there ever since.

02:01:51.000 But we're big fans.

02:01:52.000 So I bet Scott Horton or Daniel McAdams could probably arrange that.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, I will fly there tomorrow if that's what it takes.

02:02:00.000 In Texas?

02:02:01.000 Wherever.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, wherever.

02:02:02.000 He's in Texas.

02:02:03.000 He's in Texas.

02:02:04.000 I think it's Lake Forest.

02:02:05.000 We would have to drive out the mobile studio week after next or something.

02:02:10.000 I mean, it is time.

02:02:11.000 Well, I will reach out and connect you if you're not already connected.

02:02:15.000 I think you've had Scott Horton on.

02:02:17.000 Yeah, we have, right?

02:02:18.000 Yeah, we sure have.

02:02:19.000 I skated with him, I'm pretty sure.

02:02:20.000 That was cool.

02:02:21.000 I did a kickflip pivot on the mini ramp.

02:02:23.000 Scott's awesome.

02:02:23.000 It was like midnight, and I was like, I can't skate, I'm too tired.

02:02:26.000 He's like, you have to.

02:02:27.000 And I was like, oh.

02:02:28.000 Scott's always, he goes 100 miles an hour.

02:02:30.000 I'm a FOMO now, so for everybody watching, I can't skateboard, even though I like to skateboard, because I'm pregnant.

02:02:35.000 And everybody will be like, hmm.

02:02:38.000 Would Ron be able to travel out here or?

02:02:40.000 Possibly.

02:02:40.000 That would be amazing.

02:02:41.000 He traveled to our national convention and he spoke.

02:02:44.000 Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

02:02:45.000 Yeah, we covered that.

02:02:46.000 TimCast.com.

02:02:47.000 Yeah, he was great too, the person you sent.

02:02:50.000 All right.

02:02:51.000 Yeah, Chris, Chris Carr.

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02:03:15.000 Angela, you want to shout anything out?

02:03:16.000 Yeah, if you want to join the Libertarian Party, I think you've heard it about 10 million times by now, it's LP.org.

02:03:22.000 If you want to get active in your state party, which is also really important, the best way to do that is to go to LPMisesCaucus.com.

02:03:29.000 They will get you connected with whoever you need to get connected with, all 50 states.

02:03:33.000 Right on.

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02:03:36.000 Yeah, I'm going to repeat myself too.

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02:04:10.000 Great to see you guys.

02:04:11.000 Thanks for coming.

02:04:12.000 I want to shout out Luke Rutkowski, who may or may not be still be in the chat.

02:04:16.000 He's at Porkfest this week.

02:04:18.000 What's up, homie? 1.00

02:04:19.000 And also a special tech tidbit.

02:04:21.000 I just found out, saw evidence that the sun may not actually be Super hot gas, but actually metallic hydrogen that's hexagonally latticed, just like graphene.

02:04:32.000 And borophene is hexagonal lattice. 0.89

02:04:33.000 Ian, you sound crazy.

02:04:34.000 A perpetual motion machine.

02:04:35.000 There's a video called The Sun is Not a Gaseous Plasma, the LMH Solar Model.

02:04:40.000 Check it out.

02:04:41.000 Bye.

02:04:42.000 Well, I have nothing so smart to add, but thank you guys for tuning in this evening with my lady versions of a Libertarian and Catholic.

02:04:48.000 Great conversation, ladies. 0.99

02:04:50.000 Thank you for coming.

02:04:50.000 Mary was a little bit nervous before she came on.

02:04:52.000 She did great.

02:04:53.000 We do have a great time over on Pop Culture Crisis.

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