Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trudeau PURGES Freedom Convoy, DC Police Prepare For US Convoy w-Dallas Sonnier

00:00:00.000 Trudeau's crackdown has begun.

00:00:07.000 The Freedom Convoy is being cleared out.

00:00:09.000 Members of the press are being arrested.

00:00:11.000 A live streamer, while streaming, was arrested, clearly not doing anything wrong.

00:00:16.000 This is... It's obvious at this point it's an abuse of power.

00:00:19.000 They were supposed to be debating the Emergency Act powers that Trudeau was going to be using, and they shut it down because apparently Trudeau decided, I'm going to use them anyway.

00:00:26.000 Now there's video coming out, reports that a woman was trampled by a horse, members of the media being arrested.

00:00:31.000 It's just, it's gone a little too far.

00:00:34.000 But I do think y'all should be optimistic here because it shows the protests worked, they're working.

00:00:39.000 And I don't think it ends here.

00:00:41.000 In the United States, we're hearing there's going to be a convoy leaving from Barstow, California, heading to Washington, D.C.

00:00:46.000 police are rescinding leave for officers because they were preparing for this.

00:00:46.000 And the D.C.

00:00:50.000 So let's get into all that.

00:00:52.000 We'll talk about what's going on.

00:00:54.000 We also have a lot of cultural stories to talk about.

00:00:57.000 Things about, you know, wokeness in movies and video games. 0.71

00:01:00.000 We'll talk about Bryan Cranston saying he's having like a woke awakening or some ridiculous nonsense.

00:01:06.000 And we're being joined by a refugee out of Hollywood who's now working with The Daily Wire.

00:01:10.000 So this should be a really great conversation.

00:01:12.000 We have Dallas Sanye.

00:01:13.000 How's it going, man?

00:01:14.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:15.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:01:16.000 Pull your mic up a little bit, sorry.

00:01:17.000 I'm a movie producer who is making all the Daily Wire movies now.

00:01:22.000 I spent 16 years in Los Angeles.

00:01:24.000 I'm best known for Bone Tomahawk with Kurt Russell, Brawl in Cell Block 99 with Vince Vaughn, Dragged Across Concrete with Mel Gibson, and then I made a movie called Run Hide Fight.

00:01:38.000 And even though it got a standing ovation in the Venice Film Festival, no one would buy it, right?

00:01:44.000 executives at all of the distributors that I've worked with and made a lot of money for in the past.

00:01:49.000 They've got kids in public schools. They've got mortgages.

00:01:52.000 They didn't want to take the heat internally. So they passed on the movie and I was saying,

00:01:57.000 what am I going to do? But I'd had a coffee with Ben Shapiro the year before. I called him up and the

00:02:03.000 rest is history.

00:02:05.000 Wow.

00:02:05.000 And now you've got Shudden as well.

00:02:07.000 Yep.

00:02:08.000 And there's Terror on the Prairie, I think that's what it's called.

00:02:10.000 We had Nick Circe on recently.

00:02:11.000 So this is fantastic stuff because, you know, with the escalation in the cultural conflict, building infrastructure is extremely important, but building culture is probably more important.

00:02:22.000 So I think what The Daily Wire has been doing with picking up these movies and producing more is brilliant.

00:02:28.000 And we'll get into all that stuff, so thanks for joining us.

00:02:30.000 We're also being joined by Brett Dasovic of Pop Culture Crisis.

00:02:34.000 Yes, that is true.

00:02:36.000 I'm a refugee of my own sort out here, coming out here to work.

00:02:41.000 What's weird about this to me is like, I don't think I ever imagined coming on here.

00:02:46.000 Doing the show like doing it feels like I was telling Miracle earlier It's like kind of feels like I've elevated to the big leagues from the upstairs studio to the downstairs studio And we cover a lot of these topics.

00:02:59.000 We try to keep it as open and perspective as possible But we're gonna get into a lot of that tonight.

00:03:03.000 Yeah Yeah, so for those that aren't familiar, we've we launched a couple other shows at TimCast.com, one of which is Pop Culture Crisis.

00:03:03.000 I'm excited.

00:03:09.000 And Brett is the host.

00:03:11.000 So you know, this basically happened because I think we were driving back from a movie.

00:03:14.000 And then Brett was talking the whole time.

00:03:16.000 I'm like, man, this guy knows everything.

00:03:18.000 He was naming directors and producers and like, he was, you know, and production assistants just like knew the credits.

00:03:25.000 And I was like, Brett, you want to do a show talking about this stuff?

00:03:28.000 I literally thought he was like, God, he's never going to shut up.

00:03:28.000 And he said, yes.

00:03:31.000 If we just give him a show, if we just give him a show, like he'll just leave us alone and we can drive home in peace.

00:03:36.000 It'll be perfect.

00:03:37.000 Send him upstairs to talk about the stuff on the camera.

00:03:39.000 We'll make money off of it.

00:03:40.000 Brett's also an incredible skater.

00:03:42.000 You can check out his stuff on Instagram.

00:03:44.000 Brett Dasovic.

00:03:46.000 I'm really glad you're here, man, because I've been thinking a lot about memetic warfare and fifth generational warfare.

00:03:51.000 And I think that what's happening is that the message has become the communication.

00:03:54.000 It's less about the ideas and more about the way we're communicating.

00:03:57.000 And I think acting is a super important way to communicate and to get people on your side, basically.

00:04:05.000 It's a good point as to why culture is so relevant, because we were talking about this the other day with Steven Marsh and Civil War stuff, but memetic warfare.

00:04:12.000 Propaganda, information, and culture building.

00:04:14.000 You gotta have content.

00:04:15.000 You gotta have TV shows, movies, video games, all that stuff.

00:04:19.000 Outside of the infrastructure to support it.

00:04:21.000 Variety.

00:04:22.000 Be adaptable.

00:04:25.000 The way you communicate should be adaptable.

00:04:26.000 And I think being an actor can help show people that you are adaptable.

00:04:30.000 Yeah, we'll get into all that stuff.

00:04:32.000 We got Lydia as well.

00:04:33.000 I'm so excited to have Dallas this evening, and I'm really excited to have Brett.

00:04:33.000 I'm here as well.

00:04:36.000 I think that what The Daily Wire is doing with movies is so important.

00:04:39.000 I think it's pivotal to have movies that are interesting to people, and I love the idea of having this analysis of the culture going on as well, which I love what Pop Culture Crisis is doing, so I'm excited for this evening.

00:04:48.000 It's going to be fun.

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00:05:48.000 Let's get started talking about the big news out of Ottawa, what's happening with this crackdown.

00:05:54.000 Daily Mail reports Trudeau's trucker crackdown begins.

00:05:56.000 Hundreds of cops backed by armored vehicles and horses arrest at least 100 Freedom Convoy protesters in Ottawa and tow 21 big rigs using Emergencies Act power.

00:06:09.000 We got a bunch of photos out of here.

00:06:11.000 Mounted officers showing up, people screaming.

00:06:14.000 You've got regular, you know, I don't know if these are like community officers or what, they're not wearing armor or anything like that.

00:06:20.000 But here you've got what appears to be some kind of riot control armed with tear gas, gas masks.

00:06:24.000 Look at this guy!

00:06:26.000 Look, I've seen this stuff throughout my time.

00:06:28.000 I've seen it at violent riots.

00:06:30.000 I've seen it at, well, mostly violent riots.

00:06:33.000 Typically, when I see peaceful protesters, you might see stuff like this, but you don't see the severity.

00:06:39.000 I've certainly seen police brutality at peaceful protests, especially from the left.

00:06:43.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:06:44.000 But this seems to be absolutely overplayed and extreme for a bunch of, you know, middle-aged truckers and families with their kids and dogs in a bouncy castle.

00:06:53.000 I understand people are like, well, sometimes there's confrontations.

00:06:56.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

00:06:58.000 It's a peaceful occupation in a city.

00:07:00.000 They should be coming in with, like, ten officers, peacefully, saying, look, guys, you know, you broke the law, we're gonna take you in, slap on the wrist.

00:07:07.000 Instead, it is Trudeau fascism crackdown, freezing people's assets, trampling people with horses.

00:07:14.000 Dark days indeed, huh?

00:07:16.000 Is this the group that had the bouncy house outside the... Yes.

00:07:20.000 Very scary.

00:07:21.000 Nothing scarier than a bunch of middle-aged truckers with a bouncy house for their kids.

00:07:25.000 That is what I live in fear of waking up to.

00:07:27.000 You think you're joking.

00:07:28.000 But no, seriously, they don't know how to respond to it.

00:07:31.000 When you get a violent riot, the state says, oh thank heavens.

00:07:35.000 Because they know that they're going to earn public support for shutting down riots, even when they barely do it.

00:07:41.000 But when you got little kids in a bouncy house, they're like, whatever we do, it's going to look really, really bad.

00:07:47.000 They do get scared of that stuff.

00:07:47.000 How do we handle this?

00:07:49.000 I suppose it's kind of like in the past when they would have kids at the front lines of the protests or the riots, right?

00:07:55.000 To prevent police action, right?

00:07:57.000 The left does it all the time.

00:07:58.000 It's an optics thing.

00:07:59.000 Yep.

00:08:00.000 Yeah, they're even threatening to go after journalists.

00:08:02.000 This is like how a monarchy doesn't know how to respond to a peaceful protest.

00:08:07.000 They talk about, Canada's all about, and I'm not saying Canada's the monarchy, but the Queen could stop this if she wanted.

00:08:13.000 They talk about, like, peace.

00:08:14.000 We need calmness and peace, you guys.

00:08:16.000 And then when stuff like this breaks out, they don't know what to do, because it's this fake, you know, this platitude of kindness and peace, you guys.

00:08:22.000 And it's this fascist, militant, you know, quasi-democracy.

00:08:26.000 So now we're seeing the true colors of how, in America, we fight each other!

00:08:30.000 For fun!

00:08:31.000 And so we don't get to this point.

00:08:33.000 Because we know how to deal with protest.

00:08:35.000 It's like, this country is a protest, it's something you told me.

00:08:38.000 It's a great way to look at our species, the way it functions, the importance of resistance.

00:08:44.000 This is bothering me.

00:08:46.000 Yeah.

00:08:48.000 Dark days, indeed.

00:08:49.000 Now, I wonder what'll happen in the U.S.

00:08:51.000 because, you know, D.C.

00:08:52.000 police are saying they're pulling leave because they're worried about this as well.

00:08:57.000 I can't say I'm surprised about Canada, though.

00:08:59.000 For those that didn't get the episode yesterday, we had a Canadian guy, Stephen Marchand.

00:09:03.000 He wrote a book about civil war.

00:09:06.000 And I think his perspective is really interesting.

00:09:07.000 I think I disagree with him to a great deal, but he was basically saying, in the United States, there's two countries, a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic.

00:09:15.000 And I was like, wow, that's an excellent way to point out what's happening.

00:09:19.000 And of course, the United States is and always has been a constitutional republic.

00:09:22.000 Therefore, the multicultural democracy he speaks of is supplanting our culture, our country, our society. 0.97

00:09:29.000 And that's very much what Canada is.

00:09:31.000 Canada has been for a long time.

00:09:33.000 He mentioned how, you know, Canada's very unstable.

00:09:36.000 And he was surprised the U.S.

00:09:37.000 was destabilizing, and I'm like, the U.S.

00:09:39.000 has been stable because we're a constitutional republic.

00:09:42.000 It's a safeguard to make sure there's, you know, from the smallest jurisdiction and up, people have representation.

00:09:49.000 It doesn't seem like you get that with Canada.

00:09:50.000 It seems like they just don't care about you.

00:09:51.000 You're a cog in their machine.

00:09:54.000 If you watch Canadian Parliament, that was the feeling I got. 0.98

00:09:56.000 It's like a clown show. 0.99

00:09:58.000 Like, it's dudes wearing a big, white, puffy outfit and you're like, what in the hell? 0.95

00:10:02.000 And then they start, they heckle each other.

00:10:05.000 Like, how can you get any?

00:10:06.000 It's the weirdest ancient practice, tradition or whatever the hell, but it is not like...

00:10:12.000 Well, I was doxxed this week as a contributor to the Freedom Convoy Give Send Go.

00:10:19.000 Congratulations.

00:10:20.000 Yeah, I was actually quite proud of it.

00:10:21.000 It was a positive experience.

00:10:23.000 I was so proud.

00:10:25.000 But I've been Team Convoy since day one on this, and it means so much.

00:10:30.000 To so many of us.

00:10:31.000 I look at Australia, I look at Canada, I look at even Italy, my favorite country to visit, and I don't even recognize these places.

00:10:39.000 And it makes me so proud to be an American in a red state.

00:10:42.000 I live in Texas, work in Tennessee, vacation in Florida.

00:10:46.000 My last two years have been basically okay outside of all the nonsense.

00:10:51.000 But you were in California?

00:10:54.000 For 15 years.

00:10:55.000 Now back then, would you have dared speak up in support of this?

00:10:58.000 I would have, but I knew the tide was turning so heavily that in 2014 I left.

00:11:03.000 I took my whole family and went back to Texas.

00:11:06.000 Oh, so you got out early.

00:11:07.000 Oh, I saw it all coming.

00:11:08.000 I couldn't have told you what was coming, but I felt it coming.

00:11:11.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:11:13.000 Yeah.

00:11:13.000 Because I was living in New York and I kept slowly moving away because it just seemed to be getting worse and worse until we end up in West Virginia or, you know, this whole area.

00:11:22.000 Yeah.

00:11:22.000 Yeah, because I don't want to be in a big city.

00:11:24.000 And then you look at what happens with the lockdowns.

00:11:26.000 So we were actually, we moved to South Jersey.

00:11:28.000 And then when they did the hard lockdown, I was like, we got to get out of here.

00:11:31.000 Like, I'm not going to sit around and wait to find out how bad it does get.

00:11:34.000 And it got bad.

00:11:35.000 We had those riots.

00:11:35.000 This was back in 2020.

00:11:37.000 The riots crossed the bridge from Philly into South Jersey.

00:11:39.000 And I was just like, yo, I'm done with that.

00:11:41.000 I'm getting out.

00:11:42.000 We're going to the middle of nowhere.

00:11:43.000 We're going to do our own thing.

00:11:44.000 We're going to build our own space.

00:11:45.000 Not to mention, I'll be completely honest, way cheaper out here for land.

00:11:49.000 So expanding the business, it was way more opportunity.

00:11:52.000 But I think there's a huge opportunity in pushing back from a lot of the stuff by rejecting it.

00:11:56.000 When we see this going down in Canada, I have one thing to say to all of this.

00:12:01.000 Confidence in the system is being broken.

00:12:03.000 If you can't even... Look, I can't speak for Canada.

00:12:07.000 I don't know what Canada does.

00:12:08.000 But for us down here, we see what's happening with the vaccine mandates.

00:12:12.000 They're kind of being shattered or, you know, how bad it's been.

00:12:15.000 Talk about multicultural democracy or whatever.

00:12:17.000 But when you cannot get a redress of grievances, you're looking at a hard fall for your society.

00:12:23.000 When you look at the dysfunction in Congress, when you look at the fact that it's being run by people like Nancy Pelosi, I'm just like, that is shattering.

00:12:31.000 I'm gonna go and start setting up something somewhere else to get away from this.

00:12:35.000 Because to put it simply, confidence in the system, be it Canada, be it the UK, be it the EU, be it the United States, it's fracturing.

00:12:42.000 And so it's time to make sure, like we're shoring up our defenses, we're building something substantive on our own that we control, that's gonna be isolated from this, otherwise it shatters along with it.

00:12:51.000 I hope that the freedom convoy thing, if nothing else, I really hope that it shatters people's normalcy bias.

00:12:56.000 This understanding, this thinking that it can't happen here.

00:12:59.000 Because trust me, I never thought I would see something like this in Canada.

00:13:03.000 Canada is the nicest place in the world.

00:13:05.000 They never do anything crazy or edgy.

00:13:07.000 This is wild to me.

00:13:09.000 Like literally watching them tonight, the videos going around Twitter of the mounted police, just literally walking over people.

00:13:17.000 I want to give a good shout out to my conservative friends, who specifically—I'm not saying all conservatives—the ones who defended Ron DeSantis and Florida passing the anti-riot bill that would make it a felony to block roads.

00:13:33.000 I said, no, you don't want to do that, because we want to tolerate some degree of unrest.

00:13:38.000 Because now we see what happens in Canada, and we're going to be seeing what happens with the D.C.

00:13:42.000 protests, with this convoy.

00:13:44.000 I think we should respect people who want to peacefully obstruct.

00:13:47.000 It's annoying, but we tolerate a certain give to the system.

00:13:50.000 You need that flexibility, otherwise, if it's too brittle, it shatters.

00:13:54.000 But I also want to shout out a lot of these conservatives.

00:13:56.000 Ezra Levant, I think it was, had a great tweet where he said he used to be back the blue.

00:14:00.000 He would always give the cops the benefit of the doubt.

00:14:03.000 Now he's seeing what they're doing to trampling old women and in front of children. 0.97

00:14:08.000 And I'm like, I got to tell you, man, there are a lot of moderate, there are a lot of liberals who have been saying exactly this for some time.

00:14:16.000 Now I get it, when you get Black Lives Matter, and often lying, lying to incite violence, the Michael Brown stuff was a lie, the Trayvon Martin stuff was a lie, Ahmaud Arbery stuff was a lie, George Floyd stuff was a lie, I get it. 0.98

00:14:27.000 You're like, I'm not going to believe these people, and I totally agree, I'm not going to believe them either.

00:14:31.000 But I'll tell you this, when I was in Ferguson, I saw police just lob a flashbang into a crowd of people unprovoked.

00:14:40.000 And there's videos of things like this.

00:14:42.000 This stuff happens.

00:14:43.000 So there's a certain degree that I'm willing to tolerate because I think policing is an important institution.

00:14:47.000 But you get to the point where they're not stopping the riots in these big cities.

00:14:51.000 The big cities vote for this.

00:14:54.000 They're the ones rioting.

00:14:55.000 They're the ones supporting these mayors and these democrats and these appointees.

00:14:59.000 They're the ones cheering on the police, defending the illegal seizure of funds to paint political message in the street.

00:15:04.000 And I'm just like, why would I defend any of these cops from the rioters when they're a part of that same system?

00:15:09.000 Then you see other cops come in and shut down small businesses over COVID lockdown.

00:15:13.000 And I'm just like, okay, that's it.

00:15:14.000 I'm out.

00:15:15.000 Look, duly elected law enforcement seems to do a really great job.

00:15:18.000 Sheriffs, you know, I, we have a great relationship with our cops out here, but these big city cops are basically part of that multicultural democracy establishment Democrat machine.

00:15:27.000 They can, they can live however they want to live.

00:15:28.000 I'm not going to, I'm not going to intervene when they try to defund those departments or now in Austin where they, they're arrest, they're indicting 19 officers and aggravated assault.

00:15:36.000 I'm like, you know what?

00:15:37.000 I don't want to live in Austin.

00:15:38.000 Y'all voted for that.

00:15:39.000 Congratulations officers.

00:15:40.000 You get it.

00:15:41.000 I understand the isolation mentality.

00:15:43.000 I was thinking about this a lot too, because if we really hit like a bad place of civil war or like where all the power went out, you'd get roving bands of militants that are like really good at what they do.

00:15:54.000 It's called, I don't know what you call it, but not imbalanced war.

00:15:58.000 What do they call it?

00:15:59.000 Where like one side is way better than the other side?

00:16:01.000 Asymmetrical war.

00:16:02.000 Asymmetrical war.

00:16:03.000 You'll get people, they'll go from house to house and raid every house.

00:16:06.000 There'll be like 12 guys with machine guns or semi-autos raiding house by house to get all the valuables.

00:16:11.000 And like everyone, these Americans are like, I got my guns. 1.00

00:16:14.000 I'm going to stay here in my house, but you're a sitting target.

00:16:14.000 I'm safe.

00:16:17.000 These people know how to conquer and control.

00:16:20.000 And there will be, so I understand the desire to isolate, but those kinds of things will come for you.

00:16:25.000 If you try and isolate what you have, it is good to be out in the country and have space, but isolation is not the answer.

00:16:32.000 You need to be involved consciously with your fellow man.

00:16:35.000 That's what we do.

00:16:36.000 Movies and TV and music and internet video and things like that.

00:16:39.000 You're right, I agree.

00:16:40.000 What I would say, I don't think the goal should be to try and infiltrate their systems.

00:16:47.000 You know, for a long time, moderates, left-liberal libertarian types have been complaining about movies and video games getting woke and doing all this other stuff because they genuinely believed they were in the same system with these people.

00:17:01.000 When I say to you, I don't like your video game because you did these things, it is because I believe genuinely we're working together as one society on a product.

00:17:11.000 I think people need to realize they're not treating you that way and they don't care what you think and they're gonna do whatever they want.

00:17:16.000 In which case, you don't want to isolate yourself.

00:17:19.000 You want to make something better on your own and attract the people who are disillusioned by them to come and join you.

00:17:25.000 As one civilization, as one society.

00:17:27.000 That's exactly right.

00:17:28.000 And I spent enough time in Hollywood to understand that, and that's something I feel very passionately about.

00:17:34.000 A year ago when I went on Ben's Sunday Special, I talked about parallel economies.

00:17:39.000 Oh yeah.

00:17:39.000 And this is so important to me because a parallel Hollywood is, in my opinion, the only answer, right?

00:17:47.000 There are not ways for me to get the movies that I want to make, politics aside, in traditional Hollywood right now.

00:17:56.000 They're not supported.

00:17:57.000 In fact, they're discouraged or even disallowed.

00:18:01.000 And so I had to go and try to create a parallel economy where I wasn't going to get attacked.

00:18:06.000 I wasn't going to get, you know, I wasn't going to be tolerated.

00:18:09.000 I was going to be celebrated.

00:18:11.000 And, you know, we're just getting started, but it's game on right now.

00:18:14.000 Well, so the first movie you actually made, was it Run Hide Fight?

00:18:19.000 Run Hide Fight.

00:18:20.000 But you didn't make that with Daily Wire.

00:18:22.000 Correct.

00:18:22.000 They bought it.

00:18:23.000 Yes.

00:18:24.000 So this is a movie that you produced.

00:18:26.000 Yes.

00:18:27.000 And it's about a young woman and there's a school shooting.

00:18:31.000 So I'm surprised you even got that made in the current environment to be bought by Daily Wire.

00:18:37.000 Like, how does that happen?

00:18:38.000 Our company paid for the movie ourselves.

00:18:41.000 Wow.

00:18:41.000 So we have investors and they, you know, bet on me.

00:18:46.000 And so what happened was we made the movie.

00:18:49.000 We got, you know, great cast.

00:18:51.000 Thomas Jane, Rhoda Mitchell, Isabel May, who's now the star of 1883, the Yellowstone prequel.

00:18:59.000 And we went and made the movie by ourselves, totally independently.

00:19:03.000 And right after I made it, I was in Los Angeles and I had a coffee with Ben Shapiro.

00:19:10.000 And I talked to him about the movie and he was very excited about it.

00:19:14.000 And at the end of the coffee, I said, let's make movies together.

00:19:17.000 He said, really?

00:19:18.000 I said, yeah, let's do it. 0.94

00:19:20.000 He said, well, OK, well, we can help you in the background, you know, but if you put our name on it, you're going to get killed. 0.99

00:19:25.000 I said, are you crazy? 1.00

00:19:26.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

00:19:27.000 I'm going to put your name all over it, you know? 0.99

00:19:29.000 I actually want to ask a question about that.

00:19:30.000 So the Run Hyde Fight was produced beforehand, and then they bought it.

00:19:35.000 So then did they have to do press tours for this with the actors, and were the actors hesitant about being involved with the Daily Wire?

00:19:41.000 Like you said, Ben mentioned beforehand.

00:19:44.000 He even before he asked said, we'll do it in the background, because he just assumes that you're not going to want their name involved.

00:19:51.000 Certainly.

00:19:53.000 We had gotten the movie into Venice, which is next to Canon Sundance, the most prestigious film festival in the world.

00:20:00.000 And we got a standing ovation and all that kind of stuff.

00:20:03.000 But when we walked out, our text messages from our publicists started coming in.

00:20:08.000 F. You know, zero out of ten.

00:20:10.000 How dare you, right?

00:20:12.000 Personal politics, right?

00:20:13.000 All those things.

00:20:14.000 And so I knew we were in big trouble.

00:20:16.000 Yeah.

00:20:19.000 By going with Ben, the movie found its best home.

00:20:25.000 That also meant that some of the actors, I couldn't ask them to support the movie publicly beyond their comfort zone.

00:20:35.000 And some of the actors supported the movie, some of the actors supported the movie sort of privately and quietly, and others just sort of tuned out.

00:20:45.000 They're all becoming big stars right now, and they all kind of love it, right?

00:20:51.000 They all kind of... because they knew.

00:20:53.000 They were in Venice when we all saw a great movie.

00:20:58.000 Standing ovation, you said?

00:20:59.000 Standing ovation.

00:21:00.000 Wow.

00:21:00.000 The fact that they have to worry about it at all is the most disturbing part of all of it.

00:21:04.000 No, no, Brett, they don't have to worry about it.

00:21:07.000 They don't?

00:21:07.000 Yes, if they had the... You're both right.

00:21:12.000 They do have to worry about it, but they don't have to.

00:21:15.000 Right.

00:21:15.000 They shouldn't, right?

00:21:16.000 I'm saying that as a point.

00:21:17.000 Obviously, they worry for their careers.

00:21:19.000 I'm saying they shouldn't.

00:21:20.000 For sure.

00:21:21.000 They don't have to if they choose not to.

00:21:23.000 These are not, by any stretch of the imagination, impoverished people.

00:21:28.000 That's right.

00:21:28.000 Now, it's hard to ask somebody to slash your income by large percentages.

00:21:33.000 I mean, look, I get it.

00:21:37.000 For a movie like Shudden, I don't know if these people are A-listers or celebrities worth millions of dollars, but they get paid probably substantially better than, say, a tradesman or someone working at Starbucks, I'd imagine.

00:21:46.000 They do.

00:21:50.000 Even on shut-in, where we had the whole cast in advance understanding who we were making the movie with.

00:21:56.000 I mean, we all went to dinner before the movie started shooting.

00:21:59.000 There was still an element of, right before the movie started coming out and press time was upon us, people started to get hesitant, right?

00:22:11.000 In one case, a publicist told one of the actors involved in one of our movies that we were queuing on, right?

00:22:22.000 And that she would have been cancelled, this actress would have been cancelled right away.

00:22:27.000 Now, maybe that's true, maybe that's not.

00:22:29.000 Our opinion is you suffer through 72 hours of bad tweets and then the world moves on, right?

00:22:35.000 And you made the best movie you've ever made in your career.

00:22:39.000 Isabel May is not the star of 1883 right now because Taylor Sheridan watched Alexa and Katie on Netflix.

00:22:47.000 He watched our movie.

00:22:48.000 And she's great in it. 0.78

00:22:50.000 And now she's a massive star.

00:22:52.000 So, you know, it's a tough thing.

00:22:55.000 I'll never ask anyone to do anything they're uncomfortable with.

00:22:58.000 But I will say, and we'll get into Gina Carano in a minute, Gina Carano, working with someone 1.00

00:23:03.000 who is totally on board from day one, oh man, that's great.

00:23:08.000 Gina's fantastic.

00:23:09.000 That's just so great.

00:23:10.000 That's, you know, the fact that she was so outspoken the entire time, while on Mandalorian, and I'm following her on Twitter, and I'm just like, this is, you just gotta not worry, and be yourself, and stand up for what you believe in, and when they canceled her, she was just like, I'll find a way.

00:23:28.000 And Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire were like, we're gonna make this work.

00:23:32.000 You got nothing to worry about.

00:23:33.000 It's a great story.

00:23:34.000 If you don't mind, I'll tell it.

00:23:35.000 Absolutely.

00:23:36.000 It's so terrific.

00:23:37.000 So I believe that when someone like Gina has the guts to do what she did, you have to pray that there are people like me and Daily Wire ready to catch you.

00:23:51.000 And that's not fully realized yet, right?

00:23:54.000 It's not totally, the infrastructure is not all there yet.

00:23:58.000 We're building ours, but there needs to be more.

00:24:00.000 So Gina gets canceled on a Wednesday night at 10 p.m. 1.00

00:24:05.000 I text Jeremy Boring, the CEO of Daily Wire, at 10.05.

00:24:11.000 And he texts me right back, Ben and I were just texting about this.

00:24:15.000 I said, dude, keep your phone on tomorrow morning.

00:24:18.000 I'm going to call you.

00:24:19.000 This is going to move very fast.

00:24:21.000 Just please keep your phone on.

00:24:23.000 So I reached out to Gina's agent, who I used to work for.

00:24:27.000 The agent said, yeah, we're dropping her.

00:24:29.000 I said, oh!

00:24:31.000 I said, oh, it's terrible.

00:24:33.000 I said, well, at least give me her manager's phone number.

00:24:37.000 So I reached out to the manager.

00:24:38.000 I'd known him from my L.A.

00:24:40.000 days, barely.

00:24:42.000 Can you say which agency this was?

00:24:43.000 Was it a big five?

00:24:44.000 UTA, United Talent Agency, where I used to work.

00:24:47.000 Yeah, they're a top three for sure.

00:24:49.000 I'm not a fan.

00:24:49.000 Huge agency.

00:24:51.000 The same agent, by the way, that still represents James Franco, who, by the way, I'd work with in a second.

00:24:55.000 Love him.

00:24:56.000 Yes, James.

00:24:57.000 Plus, James Franco's more canceled than Gina Carano yet.

00:25:00.000 Because one gets dropped and one is not.

00:25:01.000 The film school stuff about the intimacy course?

00:25:03.000 Yeah.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, you know.

00:25:05.000 James, come.

00:25:06.000 Let's make this great.

00:25:09.000 It's such a joke, right?

00:25:11.000 So I reach out to the manager, who I'd known back in L.A., say, hey, let's get on the phone.

00:25:17.000 So we spoke immediately.

00:25:19.000 He's like, oh, OK.

00:25:20.000 It's like we're kind of just, you know, reeling from all this.

00:25:22.000 We were going to sort of take a step back and like, you know, we're getting calls from Megyn Kelly and Hannity and all the stuff I said.

00:25:29.000 No, no, no.

00:25:30.000 Two things.

00:25:30.000 One, say no to all of it.

00:25:32.000 Number two, you have to move now.

00:25:35.000 You have to trust me.

00:25:36.000 I'm your guardian angel.

00:25:38.000 I'm showing up daily wire and we are going to do this.

00:25:41.000 Let's go.

00:25:41.000 So the next morning we got Gina on the phone with Ben himself.

00:25:47.000 We got Jeremy and I on the phone with the manager.

00:25:51.000 We banged out a deal that day.

00:25:53.000 Dallas is in the middle of a snowstorm where I live.

00:25:57.000 And then Friday morning we announced it on Deadline Hollywood.

00:26:00.000 Wow.

00:26:01.000 that we did a movie deal with her, and that exploded more than the original announcement.

00:26:07.000 So this is how you fight.

00:26:10.000 You were right about moving fast.

00:26:11.000 Fast.

00:26:11.000 That boosted morale.

00:26:12.000 By Monday, the story's passed.

00:26:15.000 Nobody cares.

00:26:16.000 It's that fast.

00:26:17.000 So we had to—she got fired Wednesday night, 10 p.m. 0.99

00:26:21.000 By 10 a.m.

00:26:22.000 Friday morning, the announcement.

00:26:24.000 I'm jealous, man.

00:26:26.000 We gotta get Tim Cass films going.

00:26:28.000 Oh, we have to.

00:26:29.000 When you're talking about decentralizing, or basically a new Hollywood, a parallel system, how do you envision that?

00:26:35.000 Because I wonder, Hollywood's centralized.

00:26:37.000 That was kind of the point of it, was there's all these big walled Boom stage, sound stages and stuff.

00:26:41.000 So do you want to put them all over the place?

00:26:43.000 Or all in Nashville?

00:26:44.000 What are you thinking?

00:26:45.000 Definitely, it has to grow an ecosystem, almost taking the role of an old Hollywood studio system.

00:26:51.000 So we would have multiple screenwriters, you know, that we would pay full salaries to, right?

00:26:58.000 They can make more money that way anyway.

00:27:00.000 Full benefits, all this kind of real jobs, writing and directing movies.

00:27:04.000 Do you think we need to build, like, localized soundstages?

00:27:07.000 Absolutely.

00:27:08.000 Nashville has a few, and we've used them, and they're pretty good.

00:27:10.000 They've got, you know, some really nice ones, but they still don't have one that's competitive with Atlanta or Albuquerque yet.

00:27:19.000 Okay, what's that gonna run?

00:27:20.000 We can talk about that stuff off-air, I guess.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, $500 million.

00:27:23.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:27:24.000 Okay, but we could crowdfund it.

00:27:25.000 Yeah, but for a full ecosystem.

00:27:27.000 I mean, that's Netflix money.

00:27:28.000 So, what our move right now is baby steps, right?

00:27:34.000 My sort of emotional gift to Daily Wire in many ways is that I'm going to work on these movies as if my life depends on them, right?

00:27:44.000 Because they can't be bad.

00:27:46.000 If they're bad, we will get shunned, mocked, All this kind of stuff.

00:27:50.000 They're still going to attack us, and they are.

00:27:52.000 There's some amazing articles that came out the last few days about us.

00:27:56.000 But like, you know, trying to poo-poo the movies.

00:27:59.000 But these articles exist because they're scared.

00:28:01.000 Who cares about them?

00:28:02.000 I love it.

00:28:03.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:28:05.000 If there's somebody who's like, Ghostbusters 2016 was a great accomplishment, by all means, go watch Ghostbusters 2016.

00:28:12.000 Enjoy it.

00:28:13.000 I'm very happy for you.

00:28:14.000 I'm going to go watch Run, Hide, Fight or Shut In.

00:28:17.000 And enjoy myself.

00:28:19.000 And if you want that, Hollywood, you can do whatever you want.

00:28:22.000 But I'm saying, if they keep going down this path, I think it's very obvious that their system is going to crumble.

00:28:29.000 The gentleman we had on the other day, Steven, even mentioned that when institutions start getting woke, they start falling apart.

00:28:35.000 And he's a guy who has a very establishment worldview on things.

00:28:37.000 Very critical of the far right, as he would call it.

00:28:40.000 But even he recognizes media companies are moving left, and once they do, it starts just crumbling.

00:28:45.000 So if Hollywood wants to get woke and go broke, by all means, I'm not gonna complain about it.

00:28:49.000 Oh, let them.

00:28:49.000 If my neighbor wants to go swimming with alligators, I'm gonna be like, I will advise against it, but far be it from me to tell you what risks you can't take.

00:28:57.000 Now, we'll go over here and we'll make some good movies and have some fun and make jokes and not have to worry about being canceled every two seconds, and then I think 10 years from now, the work you're doing, the work Ben Shapiro and The Daily Wire is doing, is planting a tree whose shade you will actually get to sit beneath, and so will your children.

00:29:14.000 That is the hope.

00:29:15.000 That is the entire hope.

00:29:16.000 That is what this is all about.

00:29:18.000 It's to create infrastructure and ecosystem for people who are willing to take risks and fight the system, knowing they can do that, get canceled, and come over here and work with us.

00:29:30.000 It's also really important that we make great movies so that this is sustainable.

00:29:36.000 It has to make money, right?

00:29:38.000 So we're making movies that are small budget, you know, big idea, little box.

00:29:43.000 On purpose, but we're growing quickly.

00:29:45.000 I mean, the budgets are already moving up.

00:29:47.000 We're going to get into series, all these kind of things.

00:29:49.000 So it's game on.

00:29:51.000 It's like, it's going to take trailblazers in the writing, in the production part too, because like you said, like Gina walks away as an actor, those same people who have been told that they have to live within the Hollywood ecosystem are going to have to walk away and know and feel strongly enough about the work they create.

00:30:06.000 That they believe that that script, that that show can stand on its own two legs no matter where it's put out.

00:30:12.000 Not through the perceived legitimacy of Hollywood, but through any form of media that it can come out through, and the story is what elevates it.

00:30:20.000 Not the deadlines, not the AV clubs in the establishment press media that make these things seem like they're better than they are.

00:30:30.000 I think we've got to utilize piracy.

00:30:32.000 Game of Thrones was one of the most pirated shows of all time, and it was also one of the most popular.

00:30:36.000 I think that's not a coincidence.

00:30:38.000 Piracy is a tricky one.

00:30:40.000 When you're in a transactional business, VOD, movies, or even theatrical, you're so reliant on that purchase of that movie.

00:30:51.000 When you're in the streaming world, the money's coming in and it's for a bunch of stuff, right?

00:30:56.000 In Daily Wire's case, there's the political folks that are, you know, political members.

00:31:01.000 They're watching the podcast and the political content.

00:31:05.000 There's folks who are simply fans of Ben or Candace Owens, for example.

00:31:09.000 And then there's the people who love the movies.

00:31:12.000 And they're all going into one revenue stream.

00:31:14.000 And it's really working from a financial perspective.

00:31:17.000 So the company is super healthy.

00:31:19.000 It's run like a real fortune whatever company a fortune you know however many numbers company and it's terrific and you walk in and you're you cannot believe the feeling of being surrounded by all of these people Who, you know, if they don't share your exact same values, they're civically aligned.

00:31:41.000 They have the same goal, which is not to be the other side.

00:31:44.000 Do you think there's a value at running it at a loss like selling on the moon for 99 cents a pop and taking like a 70% loss or something?

00:31:51.000 Our version of that has been opening night YouTubes.

00:31:54.000 So we play the movies on YouTube, one night only, for the first two hours.

00:32:01.000 It's only available two hours.

00:32:02.000 In fact, if you start it 15 minutes late, you're gonna have to go watch the 15 minutes on Daily Wires, you know, on their site.

00:32:10.000 Is there a way that they're going to figure this out financially?

00:32:12.000 Like when we look at, like we, we break down box office.

00:32:14.000 It's already, it's already cashflow positive.

00:32:16.000 Okay.

00:32:16.000 But like we break down box offices.

00:32:18.000 So when a studio invests a hundred million dollars, they put 1.5 times that into marketing.

00:32:22.000 Uh, then they have to look at their return on investment for what they make at the box office.

00:32:27.000 How are they going to be figuring those numbers out when it comes to streaming?

00:32:30.000 It's actually worse than that.

00:32:31.000 You got to add in foreign sales, you've got to add in And they only take 60% of the box office, even less if it's in China.

00:32:37.000 The value of who your star is, things like that.

00:32:40.000 All of those pressure points on making a great movie go out the window.

00:32:46.000 So this is as close as you can get to 1969 Easy Rider as I could possibly imagine.

00:32:52.000 I mean, it is the Easy Rider.

00:32:54.000 Most people don't know this, but Easy Rider and Five Easy Pieces and The Last Picture

00:32:59.000 Show and some of these other great movies were all produced by these three guys, SBS,

00:33:06.000 and there's a great Criterion collection about their works.

00:33:09.000 And these guys set up their own shop, they had their own deal with Columbia TriStar at

00:33:14.000 the time, and they made these great movies.

00:33:17.000 That's all we're doing here, we're just creating sort of the most creatively unfiltered version

00:33:22.000 of Hollywood absolutely possible today.

00:33:38.000 Yeah.

00:33:39.000 And certainly one day we'll be accused of making a truly conservative movie.

00:33:44.000 Like, I'd love to make a comedy called Kamala!

00:33:47.000 Exclamation point!

00:33:48.000 You know?

00:33:49.000 Maybe a question mark and an exclamation point.

00:33:52.000 I mean, come on, I call it HBO Films in reverse, right?

00:33:55.000 I would love to do that at some point, but not right now.

00:33:58.000 But it's going to get labeled that way either way.

00:34:00.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:34:00.000 You have to not care that, like you said, the deadlines, the AV clubs, all these websites, the shill media sites are going to call it that, just like they label religious films, you know, the way they paint all religious films with the same brush.

00:34:12.000 You know, there was a period where I cared.

00:34:15.000 You know, maybe a few years ago, worried about mainstream press, their reactions.

00:34:20.000 And like I was saying, it's because I felt like we were part of one system together.

00:34:23.000 Right.

00:34:24.000 And I didn't want them, I don't want my neighbor to think bad things about me that don't represent me.

00:34:31.000 Then I started to realize, eventually, like, these people aren't our neighbors anymore.

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:35.000 And it's scary, it's unfortunate.

00:34:36.000 But, uh, I'm not interested in trying to convince people who hate me, and refuse to listen when I try to be nice to them. 0.90

00:34:42.000 Yeah, I'm actually- When I've approached many of these people, be it on the ground in Portland, at protests, or on Facebook, and I'm nice to them, and their response is, I literally don't care what you have to say, F you, you fascist, I'm like, Okay then. 0.76

00:34:55.000 Then I'm going to go do my thing over there.

00:34:57.000 You no longer factor in.

00:34:59.000 So when these media outlets say whatever they want, don't care.

00:35:02.000 We're going to build our thing.

00:35:03.000 We're going to do a good job of it.

00:35:04.000 And guess what's going to happen?

00:35:05.000 Like I said, 5-10 years, people are going to be knocking down the door, desperate to get a role with Daily Wire Productions, with your company.

00:35:12.000 And I'll tell you this too.

00:35:14.000 Look at Rumble right now.

00:35:16.000 I advise people when they're like, I want to make a show.

00:35:18.000 I want to do YouTube videos.

00:35:19.000 No, no, no.

00:35:20.000 You want to do Rumble videos.

00:35:21.000 Because YouTube has pulled up the ladder behind everybody else.

00:35:24.000 You're getting banned.

00:35:25.000 You don't know what you can or can't say.

00:35:27.000 Live streamers get too popular too fast.

00:35:30.000 They take you down.

00:35:31.000 Start on Rumble.

00:35:32.000 You've got more market opportunity.

00:35:34.000 This means in LA, there's going to be writers, there's going to be production assistants, producers, smaller staff, APs, whatever, and they're going to say, I would rather move to Nashville, because I know there's a great opportunity with Daily Wire and the stuff they're producing, and it's freeing, but more importantly, The market opportunity.

00:35:51.000 Hollywood is such a monolith.

00:35:54.000 It's so hard to break in.

00:35:55.000 You hear all these stories about people sending a pizza into producers.

00:35:58.000 When they open it, there's a headshot.

00:36:00.000 Don't even worry about it.

00:36:01.000 There's a real opportunity now with what you guys are doing over at Daily Wire and your productions.

00:36:06.000 So why bother with trying to climb an ivory tower when you can go knock on the front door of people who said, we want to do great stuff and we want to make something new.

00:36:13.000 Here's your opportunity.

00:36:14.000 You were telling us the story beforehand about Tom Cruise negotiating his own contract for Risky Business.

00:36:20.000 Can you explain that story again?

00:36:21.000 Because I want to pull back to that.

00:36:22.000 Yeah, there was a fantastic article on Daily Mail today interviewing Tom Cruise's first manager from when he was 18 to 22 or 23.

00:36:31.000 And Tom Cruise, when he was engaging on risky business, sent an email, sorry,

00:36:38.000 sent a letter to his agent at CAA telling her what to counter in the negotiation.

00:36:47.000 The fee down to the size of the trailer, everything involved.

00:36:51.000 And it was just fascinating.

00:36:53.000 And it just goes to show you what a movie star truly is.

00:36:57.000 And so the modern day business savvy actors, writers, directors are going to start see the tides turning, see things shift, and they're going to see that Nashville is just as a As much of an opportunity for them as it would be to go straight to California.

00:37:12.000 And you would hope that in there, there's going to be some script, a couple of scripts here and there that are going to be so good, and they're going to stand out so well, that it will be that initial cultural shift, that touchstone that pushes things to bring it back this way.

00:37:27.000 Absolutely.

00:37:28.000 And those floodgates have flung open, right?

00:37:32.000 I'm getting a phone call almost every day now from an actor, a director, a writer, major, major players.

00:37:40.000 People who have showrun, that's the head producer on a TV show, head writer, of some of the biggest TV shows.

00:37:47.000 Just saying, I'm so sick of this.

00:37:48.000 Like, please, like, what's going on up there?

00:37:51.000 What are you doing?

00:37:52.000 And then also, I think we've become very inspirational to a younger generation of filmmakers.

00:37:59.000 I have this rule, I answer every email.

00:38:01.000 So send me an email, dallasatbonfirelegend.com, I will write you back.

00:38:06.000 And, you know, I try to respond to every single email quickly.

00:38:10.000 Sometimes it takes me a few days, but I want to encourage these filmmakers, these young people who understand culture at that generation better than I do, to create, create, create.

00:38:22.000 And hopefully they can bring me the right project.

00:38:24.000 I guess we need to start building tutorials on how to use sound equipment and lighting equipment.

00:38:29.000 That's all over YouTube for sure.

00:38:30.000 Have you looked into starting a new union?

00:38:30.000 Good.

00:38:32.000 I'm kind of fed up with SAG.

00:38:33.000 I was thinking about a Web Actors Guild like WAG or something where you could decide not to screw people over but also that you don't have to pay them $1,400 a day or whatever.

00:38:43.000 The unions are sort of separated into the crew and then what we call above the line, actors, writers, and directors.

00:38:51.000 Those three have their own guilds, SAG, WGA, DGA.

00:38:56.000 And then the crew is under IATSE.

00:38:59.000 And it's a really challenging relationship for low-budget independent producers to work with these unions.

00:39:07.000 They have, for the most part, a reason to exist for the Netflixes of the world.

00:39:12.000 When it comes to a million-dollar movie, it's very hard to engage with them.

00:39:16.000 What I think the trick is, is if we're going to sort of go further out into the woods, on these movies and really make them on our own.

00:39:27.000 We have to be good stewards, right?

00:39:29.000 We have to pay people fairly.

00:39:31.000 We have to provide opportunities.

00:39:33.000 The other thing is, like, especially with the stunt actors, their insurance is through SAG.

00:39:39.000 So if they get hurt doing a stunt, and if you've seen any of my movies,

00:39:42.000 there are tons of stunts and every one of them.

00:39:44.000 Someone dies in every movie.

00:39:47.000 And it's like, you know, if these people get hurt, they need the insurance to protect their families.

00:39:53.000 And still no Oscar for stunts.

00:39:53.000 Definitely.

00:39:56.000 Could we set up?

00:39:57.000 There should be.

00:39:58.000 That's a good point.

00:40:01.000 Best part of movies continue.

00:40:02.000 In today's day and age where stunts make up such a huge percentage of the tentpole films that we see, and they get no recognition for it whatsoever.

00:40:09.000 Oh, brilliant.

00:40:10.000 Great.

00:40:12.000 That's a great idea.

00:40:13.000 Instead, why don't we create our own Oscars?

00:40:15.000 Stunts will be the last.

00:40:17.000 The last award.

00:40:18.000 Remember?

00:40:18.000 Yeah, let's do it!

00:40:19.000 They did like the... What was it?

00:40:19.000 The Wireys.

00:40:21.000 The YouTube video award ceremonies they started doing.

00:40:24.000 Yeah, the Webbies.

00:40:26.000 The Benjamins.

00:40:26.000 Yeah, Webbies.

00:40:26.000 Let's do that.

00:40:27.000 And then like VidCon and all that.

00:40:29.000 Let's just start like a new...

00:40:30.000 In Nashville.

00:40:32.000 Absolutely.

00:40:33.000 You know what we do need?

00:40:35.000 So, are you familiar with VidCon?

00:40:37.000 Yeah.

00:40:39.000 There was a year where a bunch of YouTubers with big followings showed up because their political commentary, cultural commentary, and they're shunned.

00:40:47.000 But I'll tell you my story.

00:40:48.000 I actually had a big talent agency reach out to VidCon.

00:40:53.000 This was back when I was working for Disney, one of the ABC company, and they were like, hey, Tim Pool is a streaming journalist.

00:40:57.000 We'd love to get him involved.

00:40:58.000 And they said, nope, don't care.

00:40:59.000 Won't do it.

00:41:00.000 They end up doing journalism panels with people who aren't journalists and have no followings.

00:41:05.000 And so I'm just like, this is an industry insider game.

00:41:08.000 If you're a friend of the people who run it, they'll claim you're a journalist and put you on a panel for which you have no expertise and have you talk to a bunch of people. 0.97

00:41:14.000 It's just trash. 0.99

00:41:16.000 So you know what? 0.96

00:41:17.000 We do need our own multimedia, video, social media conference that actually talks about merit.

00:41:24.000 Because that's what their whole system is about.

00:41:26.000 Authoritarianism.

00:41:28.000 The woke multicultural democracy is a religious hierarchy.

00:41:33.000 If you are part of the party, you get privileged access.

00:41:35.000 We need meritocracy.

00:41:36.000 It'd be cool if the crowd decides who gets to go speak at it, but then you gotta avoid popularity contests, so there's gonna be...

00:41:42.000 There should be some sort of calculation.

00:41:44.000 That doesn't work because you need... If the people all knew who, say, you were, then why would they need to see you go speak if they know who you are because they've heard you speak?

00:41:54.000 The issue is, if we're doing a big event, it's to introduce people to experts in certain fields and certain industries to tell them about what's going on, here's what you should learn, here's the information I can give you.

00:42:07.000 The problem with VidCon Is they have like, you know, they bring on this woman who has like a thousand Twitter followers who doesn't really work in journalism, and then they have her speak to an audience of people as an expert.

00:42:16.000 I'm like, why don't you actually just reach out to people who are experts and invite them to come?

00:42:22.000 So that is the woke authoritarianism.

00:42:24.000 If you are a part of the cult, they'll just put you in a privileged position and claim you're an expert.

00:42:29.000 Makes no sense.

00:42:30.000 But it's exactly what these regimes have done in the past.

00:42:32.000 People who aren't farmers are given farms.

00:42:35.000 We need meritocracy.

00:42:36.000 Someone who's got proven skills, who's worked in the industry, will be invited to come speak and share their knowledge the way it used to be.

00:42:43.000 Remember, they hate meritocracy.

00:42:44.000 They hate the idea of meritocracy.

00:42:44.000 Right.

00:42:46.000 That's exactly it.

00:42:47.000 You hit on it, though, because it used to be a situation where we were all in a respectful relationship with each other and the other sides, and that is gone.

00:42:56.000 These people hate you.

00:42:59.000 I say that all the time.

00:43:01.000 With a smile on your face!

00:43:02.000 These people—Hollywood hates you.

00:43:06.000 I'm not talking about you.

00:43:07.000 I'm talking about you and everyone who doesn't just, you know, sort of just cave to their absolute willfulism.

00:43:17.000 Just to add to that, I think they hate everyone.

00:43:20.000 That's the elite part of the elite.

00:43:23.000 But here's where it gets weirder.

00:43:25.000 Also, I get phone calls from my friends who are still inside the system, trapped, right?

00:43:29.000 And they're having to go to their sessions and their biases trainings and things like that.

00:43:35.000 And it is, they have to play ball.

00:43:38.000 Because they're getting paid so much money that to lose that salary, right?

00:43:43.000 It's the freedom scales, right?

00:43:45.000 So the money holds them hostage.

00:43:46.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:43:48.000 And that's the only way they can get a movie made.

00:43:51.000 They don't know how to come out and risk it all and all this kind of stuff.

00:43:56.000 But they're starting to crack a little bit, right?

00:43:58.000 It's exciting, right?

00:43:59.000 It's exciting to see it.

00:44:01.000 What you guys are doing is going to create a position where Hollywood will be forced to mingle, to cross over.

00:44:09.000 You're going to have the latest film that Daily Wire acquired is Hyperion's, right?

00:44:14.000 Yeah, Hyperion.

00:44:15.000 Cary Elwes.

00:44:16.000 One of my favorite actors of all time.

00:44:18.000 Princess Bride, what's up?

00:44:19.000 No, seriously.

00:44:20.000 I love that movie.

00:44:21.000 When I saw the tweet come out with the trailer, and I'm like, Daily Wire got a Cary Elwes film?

00:44:26.000 That is impressive.

00:44:27.000 He's fantastic.

00:44:29.000 Sooner or later, Hollywood's gonna say, if people are finding opportunity with this other new emerging film industry, we're not going to be competitive if we put constraints on them that the Daily Wire guys don't.

00:44:43.000 So if the issue is right now, Someone can choose to do a movie with you guys and your position is we'll always work with you.

00:44:50.000 And Hollywood threatens them.

00:44:51.000 They're going to say, you know, maybe I just go where it's easier and less stressful.

00:44:55.000 Hollywood will be forced to be like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:44:57.000 We won't, we won't blacklist you.

00:44:58.000 We need your talent too.

00:45:00.000 That's, that's the market competition you guys are bringing.

00:45:02.000 That's what we need to see.

00:45:03.000 When I was in Hollywood, I worked with folks on the left and folks on the right.

00:45:07.000 Tons of them, right?

00:45:09.000 The folks on the right never had an issue working with folks on the left.

00:45:13.000 The reverse was so painful.

00:45:16.000 There's just constant complaining and this and that and everything was a problem.

00:45:21.000 You know, I remember coming in to work one day after Trump was elected and half the office was crying, right?

00:45:30.000 And I just, I thought to myself, oh my gosh, something like, I don't understand this, right?

00:45:35.000 I don't even identify with this behavior.

00:45:38.000 And so then, you know, it took me a little while to catch up to where I was supposed to be, which is, you know, my optimized version now, which is hopefully, you know, making movies with The Daily Wire for a decade plus.

00:45:50.000 I'd love to, you know, I'm obviously considering moving to Nashville and being a really big, even a bigger part of it than I am now.

00:45:57.000 But I'm having a blast and it's so important to do this now because I didn't grow up as a 13-year-old wanting to run, you know, produce independent movies that I'm producing now.

00:46:13.000 I thought I was going to be running Paramount.

00:46:15.000 I thought I was going to be the president of production of Paramount like my idol Robert Evans.

00:46:20.000 Kid Stays in the Picture.

00:46:21.000 Well, you technically will be.

00:46:23.000 Yeah.

00:46:23.000 It just won't be called Paramount.

00:46:25.000 It will be a major studio producing some of the biggest films in the world, and it'll be called something different.

00:46:25.000 That's correct.

00:46:29.000 I thought the same thing.

00:46:29.000 I was like, I'm gonna be Brad Pitt.

00:46:31.000 And then I got just, that sexuality grossed me, and I was like, I gotta bail on this. 0.89

00:46:36.000 Ian was in a Super Bowl commercial.

00:46:38.000 But I'm still, we can do it.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, we can make, we can become the biggest thing on Earth.

00:46:41.000 It's just not the way it seemed.

00:46:43.000 I wanna pull up this article from Bounding into Comics.

00:46:45.000 That's awesome, dude.

00:46:46.000 Godzilla actor Bryan Cranston, well Bryan Cranston is well known for a lot of things, claims he has white blindness, says he needs to learn and change.

00:46:55.000 In an interview with the LA Times to promote his upcoming role as Charles Nichols in the stage play Power of the Sail, he revealed he suffers from what he calls white blindness and advocated for limits on free speech.

00:47:06.000 What?

00:47:07.000 Uh, okay.

00:47:09.000 It's a privileged viewpoint to be able to look at the Klan and laugh at them and belittle them for their broken and hateful ideology.

00:47:15.000 Blah blah blah, you get the point.

00:47:17.000 You know what this really is?

00:47:18.000 This is... He doesn't actually believe any of this stuff.

00:47:20.000 No, he's being held hostage.

00:47:22.000 Exactly.

00:47:22.000 He's being held hostage by his manager, by his agents, by the industry he needs to continue to be a part of.

00:47:27.000 I'm afraid he's being changed.

00:47:29.000 Ben Shapiro, I implore you, we must save this man.

00:47:33.000 We must give him an opportunity to say, all that stuff was because they made me say it.

00:47:37.000 I just want to make films.

00:47:38.000 And we'll be like, yeah, you're cool.

00:47:40.000 Right on.

00:47:40.000 We're a fan.

00:47:41.000 Or is he such a capitalist?

00:47:45.000 They are.

00:47:46.000 They're just hyper-capitalists who are like, you know what?

00:47:48.000 If I have to do this to make the money, I'll do this to make the money.

00:47:51.000 Is he possibly worried that his last two or three movies didn't go so well?

00:47:56.000 And that if he does this, he'll be on front page again.

00:48:01.000 And Breaking Bad was a terrible script.

00:48:04.000 I'm just going to say that now.

00:48:05.000 There was a big flaw in it that I can get into.

00:48:07.000 What were the last films he produced?

00:48:09.000 I'd have to look.

00:48:10.000 I haven't seen anything from him since Trumbo.

00:48:13.000 Yeah, the Trumbo movie in 2015 was not great.

00:48:16.000 They killed him off in Act 1 in Godzilla?

00:48:19.000 Look, I can't give specifics, but we can look it up, but it is inarguable that he has been as relevant as he was when Breaking Bad ended.

00:48:30.000 Then it feels like almost... So you've got the El Camino, the Breaking Bad movie, okay fine.

00:48:30.000 He's not.

00:48:36.000 Isle of Dogs, you need a voice.

00:48:37.000 The one and only Ivan.

00:48:39.000 Ladies Night is something else. 0.62

00:48:40.000 Maybe it was getting cast as Zordon in Power Rangers that did him in.

00:48:45.000 His work on Malcolm in the Middle was supreme. 0.92

00:48:47.000 I mean, he's fantastic.

00:48:47.000 Top notch.

00:48:48.000 He's so good.

00:48:49.000 He's so good.

00:48:50.000 And by the way, I'd work with him in a second.

00:48:53.000 100%.

00:48:53.000 And I think you give him the opportunity and you give him a path to success, but I wonder how much of what people are chasing after is legacy.

00:49:00.000 And so the issue is, these people who live in the cult genuinely believe that's the real world, and they view Actual America as a foreign entity and something to be feared or something not legitimate.

00:49:14.000 Whereas, you know, the way we described it, especially yesterday talking about the Civil War with Stephen Marsh, there's a multicultural democracy in the United States and a constitutional republic.

00:49:24.000 They're at war, they're at odds with each other.

00:49:26.000 But the woke democracy is not the real mainstream America.

00:49:30.000 It's something weird and new that emerged in the past 15 or 20 years.

00:49:33.000 That's held in place by the media that promotes it daily.

00:49:36.000 You don't realize that your average neighbor does not believe the stuff that you're watching on the news or that you're seeing in these television shows.

00:49:42.000 The average neighbor across from you is a lot more reasonable than you would think, but these beliefs are held in place by the mainstream establishment press, which has your television, Holds a lot of weight in your house.

00:49:55.000 The social media that your kids look at holds a lot of weight in your house.

00:49:59.000 A lot of times when you talk about, when we talk about CNN, like you'll talk about the, we talk about, they, they rag on the ratings of CNN, right?

00:50:05.000 It's like, it only got 800,000 views this, this episode, right?

00:50:08.000 I'm like, yeah, but these views are parroted by celebrities.

00:50:11.000 Each of who has hundreds of millions of followers and that pushes it outwards to the general public.

00:50:17.000 That's a good point.

00:50:18.000 They measure only 3 million views, but how many retweets that show how many more views that's a calculation that hasn't.

00:50:23.000 I got a feeling he runs his agent and that he actually got brainwashed.

00:50:25.000 just watches CNN parrots those beliefs and then every one of their followers is

00:50:30.000 you know or how many Brian Cranston has an agent who comes home and says look

00:50:34.000 man you got to come out you got to say this stuff okay it's gonna be big you're

00:50:37.000 gonna get a bunch of attention and he's like oh okay I got a feeling he runs his

00:50:40.000 agent and that he actually got brainwashed I saw it happen to a few

00:50:43.000 other people were one morning they wake up and they're like yeah yeah whiteness

00:50:48.000 I think LeBron James had happened, too, all of a sudden one day.

00:50:51.000 They just want money, man.

00:50:52.000 You go to enough of those seminars they make you attend to if you work for the government, and I'm sure more than a few of them do end up starting to fall prey to it.

00:51:01.000 Those are very prevalent in Hollywood.

00:51:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:05.000 And those stories, Tim, I see like 20 of those a day when I'm looking up stuff to talk about.

00:51:11.000 A lot of those, I'll skip them.

00:51:12.000 I'm like, you know what?

00:51:14.000 It's so obvious, like, we could cover that every day and I'd be like, do I really need to rag on this?

00:51:18.000 Read this.

00:51:19.000 You know what the weirdest thing too is?

00:51:21.000 I'm sure you can go to Bryan Cranston's history and find a whole bunch of racist and off-color jokes and offensive comedy and transphobia.

00:51:33.000 I mean, there was someone mentioned, I saw on Twitter, SVU with you know NBC Law and Order SVU and that the main

00:51:40.000 character Benson has been severely transphobic in a bunch of different episodes or something.

00:51:44.000 I don't know if that's true. Yeah, because I know that often these people lie or exaggerate

00:51:47.000 But I wouldn't be surprised because it was a very different world 15 years ago. The culture shifted

00:51:53.000 I wonder if this is actually, you know He's got a crisis management firm risk assessment and they're

00:51:58.000 like, you know, you did these episodes of Malcolm in the Middle 1.00

00:52:01.000 These could come up and bite you in the ass. 1.00

00:52:04.000 If you come out now and become devout, you'll be safe. 1.00

00:52:08.000 There are absolutely examples of that.

00:52:10.000 And in Hollywood, if you're the most vocal about, you know, being a sort of a male feminist or any of these things.

00:52:16.000 Never trust a male feminist. 0.97

00:52:17.000 You have the worst history of, you know, dating in the past and things like that. 0.99

00:52:22.000 That is a rule.

00:52:23.000 I think in Cranston's case, it literally is he was less popular.

00:52:29.000 He's just less part of the zeitgeist.

00:52:31.000 He was fading.

00:52:32.000 Yeah.

00:52:33.000 And he said, how can I get back on the front page?

00:52:36.000 That was it.

00:52:37.000 I think it was that simple.

00:52:38.000 So he decided to figuratively self-immolate.

00:52:41.000 Yes, that's right.

00:52:41.000 He was like, I know.

00:52:43.000 That is exactly what happened in my opinion.

00:52:45.000 Look at James Gunn.

00:52:48.000 He had his tons of tweets that were really creepy, stuff we can't even talk about on here.

00:52:53.000 And if you're part of the establishment, you get a pass, because what Disney did is they fired him, DC hired him, and then Disney quietly rehires him for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

00:53:03.000 I wonder if it actually played out very, very favorably for him.

00:53:07.000 I wonder if he was actually, quote-unquote, fired by Marvel.

00:53:10.000 James Gunn, I think it was Mike Cernovich who pulled up these tweets to make a point about cancel culture.

00:53:14.000 Because that was after Rosie O'Donnell.

00:53:15.000 Right.

00:53:16.000 Rosie O'Donnell or Roseanne?

00:53:18.000 Roseanne.

00:53:20.000 You know, he pulls up these tweets.

00:53:21.000 Roseanne's awesome.

00:53:22.000 Like, James Gunn used to make those movies, those really, like, gross horror films or whatever they were called.

00:53:27.000 And so he has these really off-color offensive jokes, and I'm like, eh, he's trying to be an edgelord, it's whatever.

00:53:33.000 But of course, it creates a media frenzy.

00:53:36.000 By quote-unquote firing him, he was able to work for Marvel and DC.

00:53:41.000 Yeah, he got to do both.

00:53:42.000 He had to do both.

00:53:42.000 And Peacemaker came out great.

00:53:44.000 Peacemaker's fantastic.

00:53:45.000 We loved it.

00:53:45.000 And shout-out to, have you seen Peacemaker?

00:53:48.000 Oh yeah, it's great.

00:53:49.000 So, I don't wanna, I'm not gonna give too deep of a spoiler, but if you don't wanna hear it, you're being warned.

00:53:54.000 I don't think it's a spoiler.

00:53:55.000 I just wanna say, The villains in that show are the establishment Democrats.

00:53:59.000 Absolutely.

00:54:00.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:54:01.000 They give a speech and I'm just like, that's like Dr. Fauci giving a speech.

00:54:06.000 What is this?

00:54:07.000 They're the bad guys.

00:54:08.000 It was climate alarmism mixed with mask propaganda, disguised as aliens coming from another planet.

00:54:15.000 And they're the villains.

00:54:15.000 They're the villains!

00:54:16.000 They're the bad guys.

00:54:16.000 And I'm like, I actually thought they were gonna try and pull some like, it turns out, you know, this whole authoritarian worldview is the right idea, but they're the bad guys.

00:54:26.000 And I was like, you know, gotta respect it.

00:54:28.000 You know what we gotta do?

00:54:29.000 Create a movie where we've already, as a species, learned how to withdraw the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and fix the climate change thing to create graphene with it, and we're building new materials.

00:54:37.000 But now we're competing with trees for the carbon dioxide, and it's a new problem.

00:54:42.000 And the trees become mobile.

00:54:43.000 And the trees become sentient and mobile.

00:54:45.000 But that way it'll implant in people's minds like, hey, it's not that big of a problem, by the way, climate change.

00:54:50.000 We can fix the climate if we get proactive about it.

00:54:53.000 Well, to get a little bit more broad... It is a big problem that we can fix.

00:54:57.000 To get a little bit more broad on your point, this is the purpose of culture.

00:55:02.000 Run Hyde Fight, for instance, was about like standing up in defiance, like, you know, fighting for what you believe in and saving people and things like that.

00:55:10.000 These are cultural messages.

00:55:12.000 It was, you know, I haven't seen it.

00:55:13.000 But I've seen the trailer and there's like this young girl, she's being trained how to use a weapon, stuff like that.

00:55:18.000 There's a photo going around of kids in Wyoming being in a gym with airsoft pellet guns.

00:55:24.000 I'm sorry, not airsoft, with pellet CO2 compression rifles.

00:55:29.000 And I'm like, my joke about it was, I am disgusted and offended.

00:55:34.000 These children should be outside with 22s. 0.98

00:55:36.000 Putting them in a gym with CO2, what are you doing?

00:55:38.000 Give them a 22, come on.

00:55:40.000 But the establishment Democrat activist review was shrieking, children with guns! 0.99

00:55:47.000 And there's this video from Libs of TikTok of a guy screaming, what, are you insane? 0.98

00:55:53.000 And I'm like, yo. 0.71

00:55:54.000 Guns are things. 0.99

00:55:56.000 We used to teach kids how to be safe and respect them and understand them and I think that's a good idea.

00:56:00.000 So when you make a movie that shows someone teaching a young person how to use a weapon, that is creating the idea.

00:56:07.000 It's planting in people's minds this is a part of life.

00:56:10.000 It's a normal part of life.

00:56:11.000 That's the purpose of building culture.

00:56:13.000 So you're right Ian.

00:56:14.000 Yeah, not a movie about showing kids how to make guns, but in the movie, the character you love is showing kids, like, is teaching kids.

00:56:20.000 Proper, proper technique.

00:56:21.000 And so then you understand that these things are a normal part of the world.

00:56:25.000 So, and your, and your view about solutions towards climate change and stuff like that, making movies, showing possibilities, opens people's minds up to things they may have not considered before, which is why it's so important.

00:56:37.000 If you seed culture only to the left, the woke, you're going to get movies like, man, have you seen the new craft?

00:56:44.000 You know the original The Craft?

00:56:46.000 Oh, I know all about it.

00:56:47.000 You've seen the new one?

00:56:48.000 Yep.

00:56:49.000 I don't even think you can call it a movie.

00:56:52.000 It was a grouping of random woke PSAs that don't seem to go together at all.

00:56:52.000 No.

00:56:57.000 They cast a spell, turn a guy gay or something. 0.98

00:56:59.000 I'm just like, this is not a movie.

00:57:00.000 It makes no sense. 0.80

00:57:01.000 But if kids grew up watching that stuff, their brains are going to be all jumbled up and broken from this nonsense.

00:57:06.000 One of the biggest producers in Hollywood was caught in an interview saying he didn't know any female directors, even though a female had just directed a movie for him.

00:57:17.000 And so of course he got called out, semi-canceled for about 10 hours, and then back, and he was back, because he's such a big producer.

00:57:17.000 Wow!

00:57:26.000 And so his way of fixing things was to put a bunch of female directed movies into production. 1.00

00:57:37.000 The problem is he didn't go and oversee those movies the same way that he did his male directors.

00:57:44.000 He wouldn't be allowed to.

00:57:45.000 He let these women go on set by themselves and the movies failed. 0.98

00:57:52.000 Black Christmas and the Crash.

00:57:54.000 Black Christmas is so bad.

00:57:56.000 And it's honestly really sad.

00:57:58.000 And so while he was applauded for hiring all these female directors, the truth is he let them fail.

00:58:08.000 That's like Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal. 0.83

00:58:10.000 Are you familiar with Kierkegaard's story about the clown?

00:58:15.000 No.

00:58:16.000 A fire breaks out backstage at a theater and a clown runs on stage to begin to warn the audience of the fire and they all begin laughing.

00:58:23.000 He then becomes more erratic and extreme.

00:58:26.000 No, you need to understand, they all laugh even louder.

00:58:29.000 And he says, I think this is how the world will end, with people believing it's a joke or something to that effect.

00:58:34.000 And I wonder, you know, I think about that when I see this guy, he puts these female directors in play just because they're females, doesn't oversee them, the movies are abysmal and flop, and then everyone cheers for him.

00:58:44.000 I wonder if what's actually happening is, the people in the audience know there's a fire.

00:58:48.000 They don't care though, because they're all worried about being the one person to not clap while everyone else is clapping.

00:58:53.000 One of the female writers on one of the two movies started to talk about this phenomenon on Twitter and quickly stopped.

00:59:03.000 Encouraged not to do that anymore.

00:59:06.000 Is that the girl that was talking to Jeremy Hanby, the quartering?

00:59:09.000 I saw a good dialogue.

00:59:11.000 I don't think so.

00:59:12.000 Jeremy's terrific.

00:59:13.000 The girl that's writing The Witcher, I think, decided to strike up a dialogue with Jeremy on Twitter, a video chat.

00:59:19.000 So they were really talking about it.

00:59:20.000 I was like, Hey, yeah, diversity is important, but within like one skin color, you can have a lot of different cultural diversity.

00:59:27.000 Don't forget that when you're creating.

00:59:28.000 Well, well, uh, well, no, no.

00:59:30.000 I was going to say the guy, the guy, the producer went further and created a deal with Amazon to make low, low budget, uh, horror movies where he could get his diversity quotient quotas met so that he could go back to making Halloween with a white male.

00:59:30.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 Does he actually have quotas or is this a personal thing of his?

00:59:48.000 It's a little, it's all, it's all, it's all, all, it's all part of the, it's all part of the unspoken rule of Hollywood that's now more spoken to be, to be frank.

00:59:57.000 It's like the identity politics version of like Wes Craven saying he'd only do horror films so they'd let him make a classic love story.

01:00:03.000 Yeah.

01:00:04.000 He does what they say, the things they request of him with no passion for it whatsoever.

01:00:08.000 Although I love the new Joker movie, uh, you know, uh, uh, the, uh, Todd, uh, the director, He wanted to make Taxi Driver.

01:00:18.000 It's what he made.

01:00:19.000 Let's just make a good movie and call it Joker.

01:00:23.000 Todd Phillips.

01:00:26.000 You put it in a Joker storyline and now you get 70 million dollars to make the movie instead of 7.

01:00:32.000 55 million dollars made a billion without China.

01:00:35.000 But Joker was awesome.

01:00:37.000 It is awesome.

01:00:37.000 Taxi Driver is awesome too though.

01:00:39.000 But that's the trick, right?

01:00:41.000 It's happening with the new Batman movie.

01:00:42.000 I'd like to make Indiana Jones in a new skin. 0.97

01:00:44.000 What's the new Batman movie?

01:00:45.000 The new Batman movie is a 1970s, you know, new American cinema movie housed under Batman.

01:00:53.000 Now, hopefully it's great.

01:00:54.000 That's the, that's the pitch.

01:00:56.000 But there, I think it will be because they're letting Matt Reeves have run of his production, whereas every other Warner Brothers production they've done, they've interfered so heavily.

01:00:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 That's a, that's a, that's a party line, right?

01:01:08.000 Who knows?

01:01:09.000 But that's the, that's what they're pitching.

01:01:12.000 Uh, uh, and, and Robert Pattinson is a great actor.

01:01:14.000 Yes.

01:01:15.000 You know, so the lighthouse joker was, I saw joker in theaters, the media tried destroying it.

01:01:21.000 They claimed it was incel fan.

01:01:23.000 That's why I made a billion dollars.

01:01:25.000 And, but, but I went to see it and it's a, it's a, it's really amazing how, what the movie is.

01:01:31.000 I just, I hope everybody's seen it.

01:01:33.000 Cause that, No, I haven't seen it, but tell me.

01:01:35.000 Oh, you've not seen it?

01:01:35.000 I've watched so many clips.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, I've seen a lot of clips of it.

01:01:37.000 The ending is like... It's... I've seen the ending.

01:01:39.000 It's not action.

01:01:40.000 It's not... I mean, there's action in it, but... It's terror.

01:01:43.000 It's not superheroes.

01:01:44.000 Bro, the ending is just edge of your seat.

01:01:46.000 Psychological thriller.

01:01:47.000 Edge of your seat shaking.

01:01:49.000 The... Joaquin Phoenix's performance.

01:01:51.000 My heart, like, leapt from my chest in that final scene, and I was just like, I gotta watch this movie again!

01:01:56.000 Wow, it was amazing and and it was it was you know for what it was you say It's like taxi driver with the Joker storyline, but still it did Joker very very well as the Joker character Yep I would I would love to see them use that version of the Joker in in future iterations of DC films because that is an excellent Joker He would fit within the Matt Reeves version of those characters.

01:02:20.000 I don't know if he would fit as well into the standard DCEU, given that it's far more whedonized.

01:02:26.000 No, he would.

01:02:28.000 It would be amazing.

01:02:29.000 I'd rather see him in Matt Reeves.

01:02:30.000 It's kind of Lex Luthor-y, I like it.

01:02:32.000 So look, I watched The Dark Knight recently, and that version of the Joker is absolutely incredible, but very magical.

01:02:38.000 Like how he pulls these things off like all of a sudden he's got two fairies rigged with explosives like how did the 0.99

01:02:43.000 Why are people working for this guy who's broke?

01:02:43.000 Joker do that?

01:02:45.000 He stole money from the mob, but he's he's he's reckless so much so that the the mob guy Moroni

01:02:51.000 I think it is he's like I can't do this craziness. I'm gonna help the police now

01:02:55.000 It was it was an excellent portrayal It was a fun movie, but it was magical.

01:03:00.000 This version of the Joker, they actually made it make sense.

01:03:03.000 Why are people following him?

01:03:05.000 Ideology.

01:03:06.000 Because he was bucking the system.

01:03:07.000 And he's out of his mind, but people are like, I don't care anymore.

01:03:10.000 I absolutely love it.

01:03:11.000 I think he'd be fantastic.

01:03:12.000 That makes so much sense about why Joker has a following in Gotham City, because Gotham's always been post-apocalyptic.

01:03:18.000 It's basically the worst New York could become, and you can see that's a great observation.

01:03:22.000 I actually like Batman Begins more than The Dark Knight visually, because I think it actually captures what Gotham is supposed to look like.

01:03:30.000 Once it became The Dark Knight, and then The Dark Knight Rises, it just became New York and Chicago mixed together.

01:03:36.000 Whereas there was a far more ethereal dark tone.

01:03:40.000 Here's what really gets me with Joker is the people protesting the 1%. 0.98

01:03:45.000 They're outraged, their lives are miserable, there's crime, and they're driven by ideology.

01:03:50.000 So when I think of superheroes having to fight crazed masses, I'm like, I actually understand how you can't reason with far-left extremists on the ground smashing windows.

01:04:00.000 They're blinded by hatred and zealotry.

01:04:02.000 And as a superhero, you're sworn to protect them.

01:04:05.000 Yeah, how does Batman fight them?

01:04:06.000 He doesn't.

01:04:07.000 Not really.

01:04:08.000 Well, no, Batman gives them TBI.

01:04:10.000 He bashes their skulls in and leaves them rotting and shivering on the, you know, shaking on the ground.

01:04:13.000 The guy stealing the loaf of bread in Batman.

01:04:15.000 The meme of the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:18.000 But I'm thinking about how they would do the new Joker in a future Batman movie is the followers of the Joker are just ideologues who are like, you know, Bruce Wayne is corrupt.

01:04:27.000 The Batman supports the police.

01:04:29.000 The police are crooked.

01:04:30.000 This system needs to be torn down.

01:04:32.000 Cloud world, baby.

01:04:33.000 From the ashes of the old, we shall build anew, and the Joker's the one to do it.

01:04:37.000 And then you get Order, the Batman.

01:04:40.000 I think that would be fantastic.

01:04:41.000 There's elements of, like, Court of Owls' story being brought into this, meaning that there's a lot of possibility that the Waynes end up being corrupt in the new interpretation of the film, which could lend itself to that even better. 0.95

01:04:41.000 Honk, honk. 0.95

01:04:52.000 Because, you know, he can't fight back as Bruce Wayne then, because his parents are...

01:04:57.000 And and you know like in the Joker Thomas Wayne looks kind of bad.

01:05:01.000 Yep, so I think I'm so impressed with with Joker and They've done like Jared Leto.

01:05:07.000 Come on, you know, no disrespect.

01:05:08.000 I think you know, I don't know about that weird stuff He's doing with those women or whatever as well as weird stories about him in Hollywood, but I fight club big fan Him as the Joker?

01:05:17.000 Not so much.

01:05:17.000 So in Batman, is the Joker who's up against the 1% against the Waynes because they're part of the 1%?

01:05:23.000 Because that's a cool storyline too.

01:05:26.000 Or the people that follow the Joker, are they against the Waynes?

01:05:28.000 Have they focused the hatred onto the Waynes?

01:05:30.000 In the film, he thinks Thomas Wayne is his dad.

01:05:33.000 And he's just schizophrenic.

01:05:37.000 And so he's this angry, angsty, deranged guy who snaps. 0.87

01:05:41.000 And there's some sympathy for him, the way he's mistreated and abused and how he goes off.

01:05:45.000 But the protesters just think the system is broken.

01:05:49.000 And they see this guy who goes on TV and says it to the world, and now he's got a following.

01:05:56.000 And now the Joker, from that point, becomes arrogant.

01:06:00.000 And when he says, like, now I see the humor in it, I'm like, that is such a good Joker.

01:06:06.000 I would love to see his evolution into legit supervillain.

01:06:10.000 How his followers support him because they agree with him because they're driven by ideology.

01:06:14.000 Do you like the idea of them doing it with William Dafoe as like a faux Joker?

01:06:14.000 Fantastic.

01:06:18.000 Like a Three Jokers type storyline from the comics?

01:06:22.000 I don't want it to be anymore like the comics.

01:06:24.000 I want it to be like Nolan made it.

01:06:26.000 It was basically crime dramas.

01:06:27.000 I don't need it to be superhero-esque.

01:06:30.000 I need it to be more like a standard thriller.

01:06:32.000 The way they did Joker, if they went ultra realistic, like Joker doesn't have magic powers where he can rig a fairy up, but then you deal with the Batman or other superheroes struggling to deal with someone who's got such a large following.

01:06:47.000 You don't know who is supporting him or where, you don't know what he's doing.

01:06:52.000 And there's something to be said about people who don't know how to play a game and they're difficult to defeat.

01:06:56.000 So if anyone plays poker, there's a certain difficulty in playing poker against someone who has no idea what they're doing.

01:07:02.000 They make weird bets, you don't know if they're bluffing, and then they play 2-7 off-suit, and they hit a full house, and you're like... I saw the 2 and the 7 on the board, I thought they'd never play it, and they win!

01:07:12.000 So having that erratic behavior of Joker would be a really interesting, you know, they could take that version.

01:07:17.000 It'd be really interesting against a Bruce Wayne who's... Where he like, where Joker releases like a bioweapon and can blame it on the bat.

01:07:24.000 Well, I don't know about that.

01:07:25.000 That's not realistic.

01:07:26.000 I thought it was funny.

01:07:27.000 In writing, I think.

01:07:28.000 to put on this conversation.

01:07:29.000 That's not realistic.

01:07:30.000 Well that's like the Wuhan lie. 0.54

01:07:31.000 That's a joke about the Wuhan.

01:07:32.000 I get it.

01:07:33.000 Oh, okay.

01:07:34.000 I thought it was funny.

01:07:35.000 In writing, I think.

01:07:36.000 I suppose I didn't understand because I'm like, that's the opposite of what I just said.

01:07:38.000 Yeah, yeah, it was something else. 0.92

01:07:39.000 So I'm saying like you have this joker who's just a mentally ill guy who develops a following.

01:07:43.000 How could that manifest realistically against a Batman, you know, or a Justice League? 0.79

01:07:49.000 He's like, I can calculate anyone's actions, but this man is totally erratic.

01:07:53.000 I can't pick his next move.

01:07:55.000 He would have billionaire followers, like the far left.

01:07:59.000 He'd have patrons who are ultra wealthy, and they would get word of how to support the Joker, and they would be like, yes, the system must be torn down.

01:08:07.000 It's just a rich guy who's telling the Joker what to take down because then he can bet stocks against the company.

01:08:13.000 like, you know, what is it?

01:08:15.000 Just a stadium. You know, they'd have like a Joker flag. It's just

01:08:17.000 a rich guy who's telling the Joker what to take down because then he

01:08:20.000 can bet stocks against the company or or or he'd be a good one.

01:08:24.000 A rich guy trying to manipulate the Joker thinking his craze,

01:08:28.000 you know, can harm companies that Exactly.

01:08:31.000 The Joker's smarter than that. 0.52

01:08:33.000 He may be crazy, but the Joker ends up manipulating him back, taking his money.

01:08:37.000 Ah, man, I think they could do a lot of great stuff with that. 0.92

01:08:40.000 Yeah, pinning the blame on him.

01:08:41.000 But I want to go back in time to something that Ian said.

01:08:44.000 You mentioned that even within someone's race, there's great diversity.

01:08:49.000 Well, Ian, I bring you now to a story from Bounding Into Comics.

01:08:52.000 MCU fans claim casting Xochitl Gomez as America Chavez's colorist harass actress for being too light-skinned, wrong ethnicity. 0.73

01:09:01.000 Well, so there you have it, Ian.

01:09:03.000 Yes, you are correct.

01:09:04.000 Within different colored people, there's great diversity, but they don't want that. 1.00

01:09:08.000 They want simultaneously someone who looks just like the person in the comic while also saying that you can have a black woman play like Anne Boleyn or something.

01:09:16.000 My attitude is, honestly, I don't care who plays a character.

01:09:20.000 Like when Idris Elba was, um... What's the guy's name in Marvel?

01:09:24.000 With the eyes?

01:09:25.000 He can see everything?

01:09:26.000 Oh, I can't remember.

01:09:27.000 Who's the guy who can see everything in Marvel?

01:09:29.000 I don't know.

01:09:30.000 He's the Norse god.

01:09:31.000 Yeah.

01:09:32.000 And people are complaining because it's clearly based on Norse mythology and he's not exactly as pale as the other ones.

01:09:41.000 I'm one of those people that I don't have a problem with the race swapping as much as other people, especially if I don't have a strong connection to the source material.

01:09:47.000 Heimdall.

01:09:48.000 Heimdall! 0.71

01:09:50.000 So there's a lot of people who are like, it's Norse mythology and Heimdall is a white man.

01:09:53.000 I'm like, dude, he's an actor.

01:09:54.000 I don't care.

01:09:55.000 Like, there are some instances where I can certainly understand it, if you're like, you know, that one's a little too much.

01:10:01.000 When people complain about Anne Boleyn being played by a black woman.

01:10:03.000 Well, that's because it's a real person.

01:10:04.000 Right, it's a historical figure.

01:10:06.000 I still kind of don't care that much, because I don't, I want someone's performance to... Yeah, the best actor should carry the show.

01:10:06.000 That's a good point.

01:10:12.000 Then I want Ian to play Martin Luther King Jr.

01:10:16.000 I can make that happen.

01:10:16.000 Yes.

01:10:17.000 The Little Mermaid is now, yes.

01:10:18.000 The woke are complaining that so chill Gomez isn't is the wrong color 0.63

01:10:22.000 Yes but they're also the same people who complain that or state

01:10:26.000 that you can have a Black person play a white character the Little Mermaid is

01:10:31.000 now yes, but it only goes one direction It only goes one direction 0.98

01:10:34.000 I don't actually believe what they believe and they are harassing the crap out of this girl and 0.99

01:10:38.000 And it's like, I feel so bad for this young actress. 0.91

01:10:40.000 I'm really interested in your experience.

01:10:42.000 Sorry to cut you off there, but I want to.

01:10:43.000 Yeah.

01:10:44.000 I mean, you're.

01:10:44.000 You were there.

01:10:44.000 Yeah.

01:10:45.000 I mean, this is a pretty new phenomenon in Hollywood.

01:10:49.000 And so you go back in time and you see movies from 10 years ago when someone did something like this and now they're getting sort of canceled for it.

01:10:49.000 Right.

01:10:57.000 But the worst the worst case was Scarlett Johansson. 0.99

01:11:01.000 Her attachment was going to get a movie made about the trans, about a trans person.

01:11:07.000 And, and I think, you know, those types of movies can be helpful in, uh, normalizing a behavior pattern, things like that.

01:11:16.000 Whether you believe in it or not, I'm just saying as a fact.

01:11:18.000 And her star power.

01:11:19.000 And so, and so the, the trans activists came out, uh, uh, canceled the movie.

01:11:26.000 And now this movie is not going to get made ever.

01:11:30.000 There isn't a foreign sales driving trans name.

01:11:35.000 Now you could say, well, okay, hold it back until there is one.

01:11:38.000 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

01:11:41.000 10 years?

01:11:41.000 15 years?

01:11:42.000 Her name recognition drives the ability for that movie to make profit. 0.99

01:11:47.000 And Benedict Cumberbatch, you know, playing a gay man.

01:11:51.000 It's so exhausting.

01:11:51.000 It's all these different things.

01:11:53.000 So again, just the reason why And I don't want the rules.

01:11:58.000 But once the rules are created, them's the rules.

01:12:01.000 So look at this real quick. It's this Twitter user Claudia Amanabar says, oh whitewashed America Chavez 0.63

01:12:07.000 I am so sorry what they did to you What like literally what I don't understand read some of

01:12:12.000 the other ones is it down? Yeah. Well, well They get more insane.

01:12:17.000 Who attacked her though?

01:12:20.000 Was it the Aaron Ruppars of the world or was it the...

01:12:22.000 Wow.

01:12:23.000 You know, who made the first...

01:12:26.000 Okay, America Chavez is a strong, confident, queer, Afro-boricua? 1.00

01:12:29.000 Is it...

01:12:31.000 Boriqua.

01:12:32.000 Boriqua.

01:12:33.000 With queer biological parents and Afro-Boriqua adoptive parents. 0.99

01:12:37.000 I do not know who this variant in Doctor Strange is supposed to be, but it's not the character whose stories I've been reading for a decade.

01:12:42.000 Okay, so when people complain that Heimdall was played by a black character, I would like to see you say the same thing. 1.00

01:12:48.000 Now, me personally, I don't care that Heimdall was played by- I think Idris Elba's fantastic.

01:12:52.000 They talked about- many people were like, Idris Elba should play James Bond.

01:12:56.000 I'm like, he'd actually be a really great James Bond.

01:12:58.000 He'd be great.

01:12:58.000 But the problem is these people are acting in bad faith.

01:13:01.000 They would not say, like, Daniel Craig would be a great, you know, Black Panther. 0.99

01:13:05.000 They would never say that.

01:13:06.000 Nope.

01:13:07.000 Because they don't actually believe what they're saying. 1.00

01:13:09.000 They're just racist lunatics. 0.95

01:13:11.000 I would do the first half of my career in the theater, and it was very much about, like, anyone can play any role. 0.97

01:13:15.000 It's the ideas, like, give actors a chance.

01:13:17.000 The best actor should have the position.

01:13:18.000 Then I got into film, and it was a different And I get the people who don't like it when the actual characters get changed.

01:13:23.000 as possible. So if the person is supposed to be an African American, you know, 0.98

01:13:27.000 descent, dark skin, and it's not, then it's very confusing the film.

01:13:31.000 I like how you pointed out, like when you're portraying real people, it's a very

01:13:35.000 different thing than portraying a comic book character or a movie character.

01:13:38.000 And I get the people who don't like it when the when the actual characters get

01:13:42.000 changed. I get the dislike of race swapping, but it just doesn't bother me the

01:13:46.000 same way it bothers other people.

01:13:48.000 Is it?

01:13:48.000 Have you found it to be different?

01:13:49.000 What were you going to say?

01:13:50.000 Well, I just love when the left eats itself.

01:13:51.000 I mean, this is such a cell phone.

01:13:55.000 She's got the LGBTQ flag pin on her chest and she's being canceled. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Yeah, this poor actress Gomez is no right winger. 1.00

01:14:04.000 Scarlett Johansson is no right winger. 0.99

01:14:06.000 This is just pathetic. 0.97

01:14:08.000 She's not the one that cast her in that role. 0.99

01:14:11.000 Somebody else put her there.

01:14:12.000 There's a tweet up there where they said these actors need to be better about not accepting roles.

01:14:17.000 They're telling you that you need to look at this and say this opportunity could feed my family or in her age like just could set me up through college and I need to pass on that because of ideological reasons.

01:14:27.000 Do you remember when just recently Peter Dinklage came out and said, They're making Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.

01:14:32.000 I mean, really think about what that means.

01:14:35.000 And then a whole bunch of actors, little people actors, came out and they were like, You're taking our jobs from us!

01:14:41.000 Stop doing this!

01:14:42.000 The best roles in a decade.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, seven Disney movie roles opened up for little people.

01:14:52.000 At a minimum $100,000 each person.

01:14:54.000 He pulled the ladder up behind him.

01:14:56.000 He's a tremendous career.

01:14:57.000 He's a great actor.

01:14:58.000 He was in big movies.

01:14:59.000 He was in Game of Thrones.

01:15:00.000 And now he's like, stop.

01:15:01.000 The only reason he was cast as Tyrion Lannister is because Tyrion is that character in the book.

01:15:09.000 And so they said, we want someone to fill that role.

01:15:11.000 How about we just get a regular guy to play that character?

01:15:13.000 If it doesn't matter who plays who, it's all acting.

01:15:16.000 What movie is funnier than Elf?

01:15:18.000 So that scene in Elf is so good.

01:15:20.000 And he was hired for it.

01:15:23.000 He was great in it.

01:15:24.000 So I think Ian mentioned this, and I looked it up.

01:15:28.000 I recommend you not look it up, but we were like...

01:15:31.000 Snow White and the Seven Dudes.

01:15:32.000 It's real.

01:15:33.000 It's real.

01:15:34.000 It's an adult movie.

01:15:34.000 It's not what I thought it was.

01:15:36.000 I just thought you could change the name, you know?

01:15:37.000 I think I downloaded the wrong Snow White and the Seven Dudes.

01:15:40.000 Girls can be dudes too. 1.00

01:15:42.000 So Disney's talking about changing the story somehow.

01:15:45.000 No, they had already done that beforehand.

01:15:47.000 So they had already anticipated that this was going to be a problem before they even went into production.

01:15:52.000 They're going to make it seven magical creatures, all CGI.

01:15:56.000 So a large list of people are gonna get paid just a lot smaller amounts on the special effects cast list.

01:16:05.000 But like a unicorn?

01:16:07.000 A dragon?

01:16:07.000 What is it?

01:16:09.000 Snow White and the Seven Magical Creatures?

01:16:10.000 That's all they know so far.

01:16:12.000 It was never going to be...

01:16:13.000 Is Lord of the Rings cancelled because dwarves does not reference little people.

01:16:17.000 It's a reference to magical creatures like elves.

01:16:20.000 Are we going to complain about elves being too tall?

01:16:22.000 There's dwarf with a big D, which is fine, but it's the little D dwarves that you can't say because that's... Yeah, Lord of the Rings is grandfathered in.

01:16:30.000 If it was a brand new project, no way.

01:16:32.000 Snow White's not grandfathered in?

01:16:34.000 No, it's not.

01:16:35.000 Because it's a new project.

01:16:37.000 Have you ever looked at the thing that said, like, the ginger side?

01:16:39.000 And it's all the redheaded characters that have been removed and replaced. 0.97

01:16:43.000 So it's like, that's what's going on right now.

01:16:45.000 Like what they did with the Little Mermaid.

01:16:47.000 They've recast the Little Mermaid.

01:16:49.000 So all of these stories are not grandfathered in.

01:16:51.000 You're going to suffer either way.

01:16:52.000 Here's what I want to add to this So Chill Gomez story.

01:16:55.000 America Chavez.

01:16:57.000 She was given the role of a queer woman of color who's wearing an LGBTQ pin, and now she is being attacked for it.

01:17:04.000 You know what the ramifications of this will be?

01:17:06.000 No one will ever want to play a character that represents a marginalized group because it'll damage their career, like Scarlett Johansson, like Sochiel Gomez. 0.99

01:17:14.000 And you know what?

01:17:15.000 They're doing it to themselves. 0.97

01:17:17.000 This means in the future, they're gonna be like, we got a great character for the superhero film who turns out to be a gay guy.

01:17:22.000 Everyone's gonna be like, no, I'm not going anywhere near that.

01:17:25.000 Sorry.

01:17:26.000 Whenever they were releasing Being the Ricardos, which is a fine movie.

01:17:31.000 It's okay.

01:17:33.000 There was a lot of talk about Javier Bardem playing Desi Arnaz.

01:17:37.000 And there is this amazing article in The Hollywood Reporter where Aaron Sorkin talks about all of the different folks, the diversity coordinators that he brought on to set so that He could get away with casting Javier Bardem as Desi Arnaz.

01:17:56.000 It's just incredible.

01:17:58.000 Do you remember what they did to, you mentioned Gina Carano earlier, when she got fired from Disney, but before they fired her, they tried to have her do a 40-person struggle session with members of the LGBTQ community on a Zoom call.

01:18:12.000 Did she say no to that?

01:18:13.000 She said, I'll do it in person.

01:18:14.000 I'll talk to these people one by one in person in an auditorium.

01:18:17.000 I'm not going to be bullied by 40 people on a Zoom call.

01:18:20.000 That's insane.

01:18:20.000 Yeah, I wouldn't do it.

01:18:21.000 What am I going to sit here and stare at my camera?

01:18:23.000 But the average actor, like you said, she's brave.

01:18:25.000 The average actor's like, yeah, you can abuse me for the next hour.

01:18:28.000 That's right.

01:18:29.000 Gina Carano was an MMA fighter. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Yeah.

01:18:31.000 Yeah.

01:18:32.000 She's seen some stuff.

01:18:34.000 She's not scared.

01:18:34.000 She's taken a punch in her day.

01:18:36.000 And that's something to be said.

01:18:37.000 You know, often one of the things I bring up with this You know, you mentioned people crying about Donald Trump winning the election and you're like, what is what is this?

01:18:46.000 I'm like, well, look, if if you've never been in the sun, you'll get sunburned.

01:18:51.000 So these people are soft little, you know, blobs of pink jello.

01:18:56.000 And then some other people have dealt with hardship. 1.00

01:18:59.000 Someone like Gina Carano, who's trained and fought and had to deal with injuries and getting punched in the face, is going to shrug off The stupidity of words. 0.99

01:19:08.000 Someone who's grown up in a pastel safe room with padded walls and beanbags all their lives will step outside, quivering and shaking, and then when someone says a naughty word, they'll go, I'm being attacked! 0.98

01:19:19.000 It's violence!

01:19:20.000 A lot of my friends from high school, none of them went into the military, really, except for one guy.

01:19:24.000 And in the time, I was like, please don't.

01:19:26.000 I was so afraid for him because I thought he was going to get hurt and I didn't want it.

01:19:29.000 But now, today, he's the most aware. 1.00

01:19:31.000 Like doesn't care about the stupid stuff. 0.99

01:19:33.000 He's fully engaged in like what matters because he saw combat. 1.00

01:19:38.000 Once you see combat, there's no joke.

01:19:40.000 There's no messing around.

01:19:42.000 MMA and the military are both like that.

01:19:43.000 If you like, when all this stuff happened with Joe Rogan, the amount of MMA fighters that came out in support of him, because they understand, they understand that you cannot just let these people bully you.

01:19:51.000 Well, it's like when you get punched in the face, you kind of realize some things don't matter all that much.

01:19:56.000 You know, when you've dealt with real hardship.

01:19:58.000 And if Gina hadn't done what she did, then there would be 10 other people who came after her and showed courage that never would have been able to do it had she not had the courage in that moment.

01:20:09.000 And it was the way you encouraged her to do it right away.

01:20:11.000 Absolutely.

01:20:12.000 That Daily Wire interview was like three days later, right?

01:20:15.000 It was about a week later, but it was as fast as we could do it.

01:20:19.000 But the announcement of the movie Came literally within 72 hours or even less, 36 hours even.

01:20:26.000 And, uh, you know, it's, it, we, we, we tend, Gina and I talk a lot, a lot about being the flak jacket, right?

01:20:33.000 Walking out there, coming on shows like this, talking about our, our careers, what we've been through and taking the bullets and showing courage in many ways.

01:20:43.000 I'm not saying I'm courageous, but I'm saying it in order to give other people courage.

01:20:49.000 to come out and come work with us and let their American flag fly.

01:20:54.000 That's why I think humility is so important, because if you can embarrass yourself in front of people, that's courage, man.

01:20:59.000 I want to bring up this story just because it's in the realm of cancel culture and it's hilarious.

01:21:03.000 So we have this once again from Bounding into Comics.

01:21:05.000 Pro Tekken player Tanakana dropped from esports team after saying short men don't have human rights.

01:21:12.000 Saying, um, men under 170 centimeters in height don't deserve human rights, according to a report from Japanese news outlet Jcast.

01:21:20.000 During a stream on February 15th, Tanakana declared that men who are under 170 centimeters, just over 5 foot 5, don't have human rights, adding they should have bone lengthening surgery to compensate for their lack of height.

01:21:32.000 I do think there are a lot of people who are deeply offended by that, but I think it's... I hope she's joking, because if it is, it's actually a funny joke.

01:21:41.000 But now she's cancelled for saying it, right?

01:21:43.000 As a 5'5'' individual, I'd just like to say that I'm extremely offended by this, and I think that her cancellation is exactly... She got exactly what she deserved.

01:21:53.000 And I am not getting bone lengthening surgery unless the government offers to pay for it.

01:21:58.000 As a 6'4 individual, I do not identify with your problems.

01:22:02.000 You can't understand my lived experience.

01:22:04.000 That's the problem.

01:22:05.000 My height privilege. 0.97

01:22:07.000 You're an oppressor. 0.86

01:22:08.000 That's what you understand. 0.99

01:22:09.000 And you're oppressing death.

01:22:11.000 See, I don't know when I'm going to finally get my due in the social hierarchy of identity politics, but I think being short means I'm not at the exact bottom as a straight white male, but I'm getting a little bit closer to the top by being under 5'6".

01:22:23.000 Now, I will say, I think the issue is she was kind of joking, but in a more serious way.

01:22:28.000 Like, it's one thing if the point of the joke is that you're mocking, like, there's the stories about Tinder where if a guy's list of height is under six feet, they never get responses.

01:22:37.000 If you're mocking those people by saying it, and we know you're mocking the idea, it's a funny joke. 0.91

01:22:42.000 But if she's actually saying, like, jokingly, she does think they deserve human rights, but she's insulting about it, that's kind of a dick move. 0.87

01:22:50.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:50.000 Was she like streaming and she just said it to her followers while she was streaming?

01:22:54.000 Cause I could see like if you're just gaming and you're like, oh yeah, I hate these people. 1.00

01:22:58.000 They should all die. 1.00

01:22:59.000 You know what? 1.00

01:23:00.000 Like just joking.

01:23:01.000 Like it just comes out as like a goofy little kid thing, but I don't know.

01:23:05.000 She's basically saying that a guy went to deliver her food and he like muttered and mumbled in front of her house, rang the doorbell, then asked her for her number.

01:23:12.000 And she said, you know, she was scared because he knows where I live.

01:23:15.000 So it's tough.

01:23:16.000 I don't want them to start a fire or something by acting coldly.

01:23:19.000 He was short, maybe only 165 centimeters, she continued.

01:23:22.000 If he was tall and muscular, I might have given him my contact information.

01:23:25.000 Isn't that amazing?

01:23:27.000 Rough life, man.

01:23:28.000 Yeah, rough life.

01:23:28.000 She wasn't insulted by being hit on.

01:23:30.000 She was insulted by being hit on by a short guy.

01:23:32.000 Exactly.

01:23:33.000 Now imagine if it was a guy.

01:23:34.000 On stream.

01:23:35.000 Now, mind you, she's gotten the boot, right?

01:23:38.000 So, hey, at least there's some consistency there.

01:23:40.000 Because I would say, if there was a dude and he was saying that, like, a woman delivered his food and she was morbidly obese and, you know, she asked him for his number and he was like, oh, get out of here.

01:23:50.000 Yeah, he'd be banned instantly.

01:23:51.000 They'd be like, you're fat shaming and all that stuff.

01:23:53.000 I actually think it's funny.

01:23:55.000 I wouldn't have expected her to get any penalty for mocking short dudes like that.

01:23:58.000 I'm actually surprised this is a story at all.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, me too.

01:24:01.000 Bet she got booted off her team. 1.00

01:24:02.000 Yeah.

01:24:03.000 I'm surprised that anybody cared.

01:24:04.000 Really?

01:24:05.000 I mean, a pro player getting kicked off a team, I mean... She probably had a very expensive salary that they needed to get rid of. 1.00

01:24:11.000 That's true.

01:24:12.000 They found their reason.

01:24:13.000 They're like, sure guys, really?

01:24:14.000 Is that really a reason to get rid of her? 0.77

01:24:16.000 It'll have to do.

01:24:16.000 But hold on.

01:24:17.000 This is the secret that people need to understand.

01:24:19.000 When we often hear about cancellations, what we're really hearing about is a company trying to break a contract that they can't break.

01:24:25.000 Exactly.

01:24:25.000 But they have morality clauses saying, if you shock or offend, we can terminate your contract immediately.

01:24:32.000 And this is what you get.

01:24:33.000 So people, people might be like, Oh, why, why was Gina Carano fired?

01:24:38.000 Maybe it really had nothing to do with it.

01:24:39.000 Maybe they were just like, we're paying her too much.

01:24:42.000 And we just don't like her.

01:24:44.000 We need an excuse for termination.

01:24:45.000 Well, it probably was ideological lines that they wanted to get rid of her. 1.00

01:24:48.000 This just gave them the excuse, and it's selectively enforced because Pedro Pascal said stuff that was way worse.

01:24:55.000 And he's, of course, he's part of the in-group, so he's allowed to exist in that sphere, but they're like, we need a reason.

01:25:00.000 That guy's creepy.

01:25:02.000 The things he's posted and tweeted about, he's like a creepy guy.

01:25:06.000 I wouldn't have posted anything that any one of them have posted, but the truth is, like, I kind of am a First Amendment absolutist, right?

01:25:15.000 And so I think just fire away, right?

01:25:18.000 But I also have thicker skin than most people.

01:25:21.000 And so, you know, I'm not offended by it.

01:25:24.000 I think in the case of Jeff Zucker, and certainly maybe in this case of this Tekken player, I think this is a money thing.

01:25:32.000 I also like that it's a Tekken player.

01:25:33.000 Did you say she's part of a Japanese team? 0.96

01:25:36.000 Is that part of the story?

01:25:37.000 I think it was mentioned that she said she was Japanese.

01:25:41.000 If that's the case, maybe there's a cultural thing about hating on short guys, because I think Japanese people might be shorter. 0.99

01:25:47.000 Nothing in life is worse than disingenuous morality.

01:25:50.000 That is the worst thing in the whole universe.

01:25:52.000 You know, I think there's a big divide when we talk about the multicultural democracy, the Constitutional Republic.

01:26:00.000 I think a core element of it is strength through hardship.

01:26:04.000 Strong men, weak men, or women, or whatever.

01:26:06.000 And, you know, you've got a lot of soft people that can't handle the real world.

01:26:14.000 They're so dependent.

01:26:15.000 Maybe it's independent versus codependent is another way to look at it.

01:26:18.000 For me, I'm kind of like, you know, if I was working in an industry, in fact, this literally happened and they were doing things I didn't like, I'd be like, I won't do it.

01:26:25.000 You know, when I worked for Fusion, they hire me on and they say, we're going to be nice vice.

01:26:30.000 We want to be edgy on the ground, do reporting, but we're not going to be as crass and crude and overt with like sex drugs and rock and roll.

01:26:36.000 And I'm like, yeah, Yeah, I totally get it.

01:26:37.000 Like, we can get that on-the-ground adventurous vibe, that, like, cool hip feeling, you know, whatever, trying to get, while still being family-friendly.

01:26:45.000 I'm down.

01:26:46.000 And then six months later, they're like, we decided we're gonna be woke.

01:26:49.000 And I said, okay, well, I'm not.

01:26:50.000 You know, I'm gonna keep doing my thing.

01:26:51.000 And they were like, then you can, you know, I tried quitting, that for me more money.

01:26:55.000 And then ultimately I'm like, dude, I'm not gonna do it.

01:26:57.000 I don't care about you.

01:26:59.000 I don't care about your company.

01:27:00.000 I would much rather sit in my living room playing video games and fall asleep than deal with whatever it is you think you can offer me.

01:27:06.000 So maybe that's just like anti-social or whatever.

01:27:08.000 I don't rely on them for my confidence or my self-esteem.

01:27:13.000 But I think a big difference between, you know, the two overarching political factions are people who are desperate for recognition and desperate for, you know, they want people to think good things about them.

01:27:25.000 And then there are people who are just like, yeah, I literally don't care what you think.

01:27:28.000 I'm going to live my life and be true to myself.

01:27:30.000 In 07, I was doing Hollywood acting and YouTube, and I started to get, I was like, what you were saying, I was seeking the attention I wanted.

01:27:35.000 I was like, when I win an Oscar, I'm going to thank my geometry teacher from the 10th grade.

01:27:38.000 I was really excited my whole life.

01:27:40.000 And then I started doing YouTube videos and I started getting the attention elsewhere.

01:27:43.000 And I realized, okay, it's not all about the attention.

01:27:46.000 It's why are you getting the attention?

01:27:48.000 What are you contributing?

01:27:50.000 And that really changed my perspective on everything.

01:27:52.000 After that, I left that industry pretty much.

01:27:54.000 I want to change that industry, you know.

01:27:56.000 Well, you build out of Nashville and you make your own.

01:28:00.000 Yeah, it's it's unchangeable.

01:28:02.000 It's it's it's Sodom and Gomorrah at this point, right?

01:28:06.000 It's it's it's it's gone.

01:28:07.000 They fled New York.

01:28:09.000 I think that's how Hollywood got started.

01:28:10.000 They fled the mob because the mob was trying to shut them down in New York.

01:28:13.000 All these directors in 1910, 20s.

01:28:16.000 I'm really inspired by the Tool song, you know, uh, uh, just, you know, uh, Enema is like, you know, uh, learn to swim.

01:28:23.000 Yeah.

01:28:23.000 Push it all away.

01:28:24.000 It was wind up in the bay.

01:28:26.000 It was my favorite.

01:28:26.000 It was a bay, baby.

01:28:27.000 I was just thinking that.

01:28:28.000 Praying for mayhem, praying for tidal waves.

01:28:30.000 In California, the federal government was struggled to enforce tax law.

01:28:34.000 Wow.

01:28:34.000 So it was a lot cheaper and easier to, uh, but I'll give you an example, Ian.

01:28:38.000 You know, when, when people say they want to change the system, it's like you're walking up To the Sears Tower in Chicago.

01:28:45.000 I know it's called the Willis Tower.

01:28:46.000 We're from Chicago.

01:28:47.000 We call it the Sears Tower.

01:28:48.000 And you're saying, I want this building to be my building.

01:28:52.000 By all means.

01:28:53.000 You can accomplish that with great power and time and dedication.

01:28:56.000 But that's like trying to move a monolith.

01:28:59.000 That's such a great structure.

01:29:00.000 Build a new building.

01:29:01.000 Start your own building.

01:29:02.000 And so this is the way I see it.

01:29:04.000 Why should I go to Austin?

01:29:05.000 Everyone's like, we're going to go to Austin.

01:29:06.000 And I'm like, it's woke central.

01:29:07.000 Why would I want to go to Austin?

01:29:09.000 No, we're going to get a field in the middle of nowhere in West Virginia, and we're going to build our own building.

01:29:13.000 And we're going to build our own thing out here.

01:29:15.000 Cause I'm, you know, there's also people go to Nashville.

01:29:17.000 I certainly think Nashville is a way better bet than Austin, but even then I look at it and I'm just like, I'd be really happy just having my own little free domestan that we can start up and we can build on our own.

01:29:26.000 Cause I'm not dependent upon anyone else for what we seek to create.

01:29:30.000 And that's the plan, man.

01:29:33.000 Yeah, there has to be a happy medium between infrastructure, right?

01:29:38.000 And freedom, right?

01:29:40.000 And the ability to sort of do what you need.

01:29:42.000 So Nashville, Dallas, a couple of these other cities are great places for that.

01:29:46.000 because you can, you have enough sort of talented people who can help you fight the culture.

01:29:53.000 But remember, someone has to handle the Instagram account and someone's got to handle the marketing

01:29:58.000 and someone's got to cut the trailer.

01:30:00.000 And you gotta be close enough to an airport.

01:30:02.000 Otherwise I'd be in Northern Maine or Wyoming.

01:30:06.000 But legit, we did look at properties in rural Pennsylvania, Maine, Montana, Wyoming.

01:30:13.000 And the big problem with all of it is they actually have really great internet.

01:30:16.000 No joke.

01:30:16.000 Airports.

01:30:18.000 And so it's like, how do we actually bring people out to the middle of nowhere?

01:30:21.000 Well, it's really difficult.

01:30:21.000 But with West Virginia, you're close enough to D.C., about an hour.

01:30:25.000 So the airport's right there.

01:30:27.000 So that's something that ends up working out.

01:30:30.000 Because we've got to build an airstrip and a soundstage.

01:30:34.000 The $500 million soundstage in the airport and then we're set.

01:30:37.000 Yeah.

01:30:38.000 Perfect.

01:30:39.000 The airstrip on top of the soundstage.

01:30:40.000 Is that what it was?

01:30:41.000 I don't know.

01:30:41.000 Helicopter pad.

01:30:42.000 Helicopter pad on top of the soundstage.

01:30:43.000 We've got to start investing in helicopters.

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01:31:02.000 Right now we're doing, at TimCast.com, it's mostly just journalism, but we also do have Pop Culture Crisis.

01:31:07.000 Brent, of course, is the host.

01:31:08.000 So make sure you go to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube and subscribe to that show.

01:31:14.000 And Spotify.

01:31:17.000 We cut them up into segments for the YouTube part, but I love the full episode from start to finish.

01:31:22.000 It's about an hour and a half to an hour and 45 minutes, and I think you don't get the feel for it.

01:31:26.000 It's a lot more fun if you listen to it from start to finish.

01:31:28.000 There's stuff that gets cut out from clips that don't make the full episode.

01:31:31.000 What do you guys dig into?

01:31:32.000 How do you get it?

01:31:32.000 Imagine like what we're doing here like I go through the news like I try to focus more in stream like just just on entertainment right so Less about the politics of it all like we do cover it like you said the other night said politics Politics our pop culture.

01:31:48.000 I'm like you screwed me, bro.

01:31:49.000 I can't I I can't do both, right? 0.95

01:31:51.000 So we try to cover the more ridiculous stories I leave out a lot of the time because I'm like, I don't need to make fun of this story or talk about this story.

01:32:01.000 But we do a lot of reviews of movies.

01:32:02.000 We just reviewed Uncharted last night.

01:32:04.000 We talk about general news.

01:32:06.000 We do a lot of stuff on Kanye West because Kanye West is one of the most interesting people in the world to cover.

01:32:11.000 I talk movies a lot.

01:32:13.000 Everything going on within the industry.

01:32:15.000 Bounding into comics, all the stuff on there.

01:32:17.000 Uh, we get everything from there and it's just, it's a lot of fun.

01:32:20.000 We have... I think, you know, we approach stuff from a political perspective and sometimes drift into pop culture and then you guys start from a pop culture perspective and sometimes drift into, like, cultural politics.

01:32:28.000 Yes.

01:32:29.000 Uh, whenever we get into it, I try to, like, you learn over time.

01:32:32.000 We're on, like, episode 58 right now.

01:32:35.000 You feel to the point where you're getting too far into it and you're like, The average person isn't going, you know, the normie, the person who doesn't understand that there is a culture war going on, isn't really going to be enamored with the harder line political takes that I might have on these things.

01:32:50.000 So I try to draw attention to them and bring them up in a way that shares my perspective, but doesn't bludgeon you over the head with what my beliefs are.

01:32:58.000 I don't think that's the importance of it. 0.99

01:33:00.000 I'm more likely to call out the stupidity of projects. 1.00

01:33:03.000 My new segment, it's called, Who the Hell Asked for This? 1.00

01:33:07.000 They're making a Blue's Clues movie, and they said it's gonna be like Spider-Man No Way Home.

01:33:11.000 I do ask, who the hell asked for this?

01:33:14.000 A Gumby movie just got sold.

01:33:17.000 Yes, live-action Gumby.

01:33:18.000 What?

01:33:19.000 Live-action Gumby?

01:33:21.000 So I see that story, I read that article, I'm like, oh god, this is awesome.

01:33:26.000 I can get 20 minutes out of this, easy.

01:33:28.000 All right, so we're going to, let's get these super chats.

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01:33:34.000 All right.

01:33:35.000 Key Lloyd says, when can we expect Ben to start doing Stan Lee style cameos in the productions?

01:33:41.000 Yes.

01:33:42.000 Well, first we got to get him to visit set, right?

01:33:46.000 So if we can get him to visit set, then I will throw him in a movie secretly.

01:33:50.000 You know, maybe he'll be the guy that opens the door, the driver of, you know, the actor.

01:33:55.000 Can I get you something to drink, sir?

01:33:57.000 You gotta give him a role he has no business doing.

01:34:00.000 Right.

01:34:00.000 Like, you know, being a bodyguard.

01:34:02.000 Bodyguard, bodyguard.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:34:03.000 Perfect.

01:34:04.000 But like a cameo, you know.

01:34:05.000 Just because people would be like, oh, it'd be fun.

01:34:07.000 Oh yeah.

01:34:08.000 He's starting to act in more of the Daily Wire Instagram videos.

01:34:12.000 So, uh, you know, maybe your wish is going to come true.

01:34:15.000 We got to see the, uh, the Daily Wire cinematic universe.

01:34:20.000 So you get these movies and then they get connected at the end of like shut in.

01:34:24.000 Someone gets shut in in a school supply closet.

01:34:27.000 Does that make Gina the, is Gina the Robert Downey Jr.?

01:34:30.000 Absolutely.

01:34:32.000 Yes, she is.

01:34:33.000 Yep.

01:34:33.000 But, you know, considering the time gap between, you know, Terror on the Prairie, I think it's called, right?

01:34:38.000 And then these other films, she's very old.

01:34:40.000 She lives forever.

01:34:41.000 So she's, it's always her in every different iteration of reality.

01:34:44.000 At the end of Terror on the Prairie, she falls into a hole with magic ice and freezes her. 0.65

01:34:49.000 And then she wakes up in, you know, 1970, whatever.

01:34:52.000 And there she is.

01:34:53.000 Just complies as the RCMP horse trampled an elderly lady and a guy on a scooter tonight.

01:34:56.000 What are these chuckleheads doing?

01:34:57.000 novels I mean doorways that lead you to other realms. I saw the movie, the movie was fun.

01:35:02.000 All right let's read some more we got Just Complies says the RCMP horse

01:35:06.000 trampled an elderly lady and a guy on a scooter tonight what are these

01:35:10.000 chuckleheads doing I am ashamed of my government. Yo I have seen this stuff 1.00

01:35:15.000 more times than I care to recall.

01:35:18.000 I was up in Montreal during student protests, and I see the cops were throwing... They have these things, I forgot what they're called, but they're like flashbangs with pepper spray in them.

01:35:26.000 So they bang, and then the whole area, like, stings.

01:35:29.000 It was a really... I've never seen something like that before.

01:35:31.000 It was kind of weird.

01:35:32.000 But that's at least how it was described to me.

01:35:34.000 And I was like, is that... is that true?

01:35:36.000 And then I read some stuff online about it.

01:35:38.000 Might have just been activists claiming it, but one of these flashbangs went off, and then I walked past it.

01:35:43.000 It was like walking through a cloud of pepper spray.

01:35:46.000 So look, I've seen peaceful protests on the left, and you've had bad cops.

01:35:51.000 I've seen more than my fair share of riots, though, so I tend to be like, well, you know, look, sometimes these people lose control.

01:35:56.000 Now what we're seeing, though, I think a lot of people on the right are starting to experience that these cops are indiscriminate.

01:36:00.000 They'll trample an elderly lady, man. 1.00

01:36:04.000 All right, let's grab some more super chats.

01:36:06.000 Let's get into this.

01:36:08.000 Okay.

01:36:10.000 What is this one?

01:36:12.000 James Rogers says, Hey Tim, how can I determine who is telling the proper narrative on this?

01:36:15.000 I have friends in Canada who call this a national embarrassment and they need to go the F home, but then you tell us the opposite.

01:36:21.000 Who's right?

01:36:21.000 Well, that's just a matter of opinion.

01:36:23.000 If you, um, look, I trust Aviva Frye, for instance, cause he's like a regular dude.

01:36:27.000 He's an honest guy.

01:36:28.000 He's got a YouTube channel.

01:36:29.000 He goes down there and he live streams all of this.

01:36:31.000 And I'm like, I think that's an accurate or fair representation for the most part.

01:36:35.000 There's probably some nuances and things you don't see.

01:36:37.000 But a dude that I know and like telling me live, walking around, is infinitely more trustworthy than the Toronto Sun or whatever saying it's a bunch of white supremacists who are stealing food from the homeless. 0.94

01:36:51.000 That's insane and not true.

01:36:52.000 And it doesn't even have to be just that bad, it's the stuff where they call it anti-vaxxer protests rather than just saying that it's about mandates.

01:37:00.000 Right.

01:37:00.000 Which is a much simpler, it slips by people, they don't realize, so the average person who doesn't have a political bias here just says, look at these crazy anti-science people who are protesting science!

01:37:10.000 Trayvon Martin, story was a lie.

01:37:12.000 The Michael Brown story was a lie.

01:37:14.000 The guy in Baltimore, I forget his name, that was a lie.

01:37:16.000 George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, lie, lie, lie.

01:37:19.000 Endless Justice Millette, another lie.

01:37:21.000 Then we get the bigger lies.

01:37:22.000 Russiagate, Ukrainegate, lie, lie.

01:37:24.000 It just keeps happening.

01:37:25.000 So I just, I don't, I'm done, you know.

01:37:29.000 I still read a lot of these sources and I try and fact-check them because there's some stuff you can't get anywhere else. 0.96

01:37:33.000 And it's not all bad, but it's too often the overt political stuff in activism is just agenda-driven and full of crap. 0.51

01:37:42.000 But let's grab some more Super Chats. 0.90

01:37:44.000 People are talking about Ukraine.

01:37:46.000 It's getting pretty crazy.

01:37:48.000 I heard the Russians pulled the troops off the border.

01:37:50.000 Is that right?

01:37:51.000 I don't know.

01:37:52.000 They said they'd just been establishing training exercises and now they pulled back.

01:37:56.000 I don't know what to believe.

01:37:59.000 OK, let's turn, Pike.

01:38:02.000 Paladin says, Hey, Dallas, any updates you can share on Breakfast with the Dirt Cult?

01:38:07.000 So there's this great book written by this guy in Oklahoma named Samuel Finlay.

01:38:14.000 And it's this amazing, amazing story of the first insurgency into Afghanistan, you know, go on 15 years ago.

01:38:23.000 And I have shown interest in getting it made, and there is this wild, rabid contingency online that shows up anywhere I go and asks, what's the latest with this movie?

01:38:35.000 The truth is, I want to make it really, really badly.

01:38:39.000 It's a tough movie to make.

01:38:41.000 It's about a soldier who comes back from the war.

01:38:44.000 and falls in love and basically struggles through it as a young man.

01:38:49.000 So it's it's a drama with war elements to it.

01:38:53.000 It's a terrific book.

01:38:54.000 Everyone should go by.

01:38:55.000 It's called Breakfast with the Dirt Cold.

01:38:56.000 Cool.

01:38:57.000 Cool.

01:38:57.000 All right.

01:38:58.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:38:59.000 Mordred says, so I have to give my first super chat to Ian for his consistent

01:39:04.000 natural twenties yesterday.

01:39:06.000 Normally he just raises my blood pressure, but he absolutely killed it yesterday.

01:39:09.000 Much love, man.

01:39:10.000 You got it, brother.

01:39:11.000 And I think a lot of people should definitely check out yesterday's episode where we had a conversation with Stephen Marsh on the next Civil War.

01:39:17.000 He has what I would describe as an establishment worldview, so there were some arguments, but I think the conversation was absolutely worth listening to, especially if you want to hear opinions you'll disagree with.

01:39:28.000 I think people should check it out.

01:39:29.000 It wasn't really a news-driven story as we often do with like, you know, a lead story.

01:39:33.000 It was more of a conversation with someone we disagree with about a lot of things.

01:39:37.000 And people certainly in the Super Chats had their opinions.

01:39:40.000 It was an example that it's not so much about trying to convince people of information, more that just that you are able to communicate with people that have different types of information.

01:39:48.000 I think it was both of us recognizing from different points of view that this is inevitable.

01:39:53.000 that uh you know the point i made to him when he said when when will americans realize this conflict is tearing you guys apart and it's going to lead something worse and then i said you're he's from canada and i was like you like your socialized medicine okay we'll abolish that canada will go full private health care do we have peace and he was like i see your point Like, our worldview is very much freedom, meritocracy.

01:40:15.000 We're not going to give up civil rights and freedom to people who want to take it away.

01:40:19.000 It's just never going to happen.

01:40:20.000 They can think the same thing, but I'm just going to say it one more time.

01:40:22.000 They live in a cult, crackpot worldview.

01:40:25.000 And his point was, he's like, but they say the same thing about you.

01:40:29.000 And I'm like, I know, and they're wrong.

01:40:30.000 Because Jussie Smollett was a lie.

01:40:32.000 Michael Brown was a lie. 0.81

01:40:33.000 Trayvon Martin was a lie. 0.66

01:40:35.000 All- Ahmaud Arbery was a lie.

01:40:36.000 All of those stories, George Floyd, all of it- Rittenhouse, man.

01:40:38.000 Rittenhouse!

01:40:39.000 Another lie! 0.88

01:40:40.000 A Black Lives Matter activist was arrested for attempting to assassinate a Jewish Democrat about a week after he posted Black nationalist anti-Semitic, uh, you know, support for this organization.

01:40:52.000 He gets bailed out on $100,000.

01:40:52.000 Kyle Rittenhouse goes to jail for a couple months.

01:40:55.000 $2 million bail.

01:40:56.000 Is smeared and demonized in the media.

01:40:58.000 Yo, I'm sick of the lies.

01:41:00.000 One side is very clearly lying.

01:41:01.000 One side just might be wrong sometimes.

01:41:03.000 I think it's... Anyway, that being said... GoFundMe taken down for Kyle Rittenhouse?

01:41:07.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:41:08.000 And then you've got GoFundMe allowing Antifa to fundraise to literally steal property.

01:41:14.000 To seize a building.

01:41:16.000 But let's read some more.

01:41:16.000 Wow.

01:41:17.000 You might want to reconsider that statement, that the Queen is a figurehead at best.

01:41:21.000 She's the Queen of England.

01:41:22.000 But Tim bought me this sweater.

01:41:23.000 Thank you for shutting it down.

01:41:24.000 Oh, yes.

01:41:24.000 We were at the mall and I saw that and I was like, that looks like a sweater Ian would wear.

01:41:28.000 You want to reconsider that statement that the Queen is a figurehead at best.

01:41:31.000 She's the Queen of England.

01:41:32.000 But Tim bought me this sweater.

01:41:34.000 Thank you for.

01:41:34.000 Yes.

01:41:35.000 Yeah.

01:41:35.000 We went to we're at the mall and I saw that and I was like that looks like a

01:41:38.000 sweater.

01:41:39.000 Ian would wear it.

01:41:39.000 He was right.

01:41:40.000 All right.

01:41:43.000 Rudy says, hey Brett, what do you think of Nintendo Direct?

01:41:46.000 Our co-host Miracle would be the better person to ask about that.

01:41:49.000 I am a vintage video game collector.

01:41:51.000 I am not a modern-day gamer.

01:41:53.000 Oh, vintage gamer.

01:41:55.000 Alright, Jason Lindholm says, I did security for Man of Steel and part of Batman vs. Superman.

01:42:00.000 The division was apparent then, left vs. right.

01:42:02.000 Some of the Cali crew hated being in Illinois.

01:42:06.000 Illinois is a red state with a blue city in it, as basically every one of these states.

01:42:11.000 Minnesota's a lot like that too.

01:42:12.000 St.

01:42:13.000 Paul and Minneapolis are very blue and then the rest of the state just kind of has... Oh yeah, Ohio is like that too.

01:42:18.000 Northeast Ohio is very blue.

01:42:19.000 There are no blue states, only blue cities and red states.

01:42:22.000 It's very much a city, like you said, city versus rural is a big part of what these...

01:42:28.000 Here's a good one.

01:42:29.000 Boof says, good name by the way, Dallas, do you see masculinity returning to cinema anytime soon? 0.95

01:42:34.000 If today's young men ever watched a John Milius movie, they would poop themselves and cry.

01:42:40.000 Well, a few things here.

01:42:41.000 The answer is yes.

01:42:43.000 We will solve this soon.

01:42:45.000 Strangely, you know, we're only reacting at this point to most of the stuff being written out of Hollywood.

01:42:50.000 So, you know, our first three movies with The Daily Wire are female leads fighting back Um, but that's also because they're cool, you know? 0.95

01:42:59.000 Um, in, in terms of John Milius, uh, his daughter, Amanda, who's been on your show, uh, is someone, as someone I am desperate to get into the director's chair, uh, a bugger all the time.

01:43:10.000 So we'll, we'll, we'll fit, we'll get this going.

01:43:13.000 You know, I'd like to recreate.

01:43:13.000 Oh, we're going to say, well, I was going to say the last thing is, uh, uh, masculinity because you know, the great Breitbart said, Oh, Matt.

01:43:21.000 Matt Maxx.

01:43:21.000 is downstream of culture, we have to show solid, heroic, masculine energy back in movies

01:43:29.000 again and we'll get there.

01:43:30.000 I thought and, and, but no, no, but and feminine energy.

01:43:34.000 In fact, I think feminine energy is missing more than masculine energy. 1.00

01:43:40.000 Dude, we just covered this the other day, because Hannah Clare, she said, why is everything reboots and why are they all female-led reboots?

01:43:46.000 And we went and I found a feminist article of what, you know, it's like, where can I find a take on this that you wouldn't think is the typical take? 1.00

01:43:53.000 And it's talking about how they're not telling female stories.

01:43:56.000 They're telling male stories with female characters.

01:43:59.000 Exactly.

01:43:59.000 Uh, so they're essentially erasing the female experience from these, uh, in the new Terminator movie.

01:44:05.000 She denigrates motherhood and turns it on its head and says, uh, having kids is basically bad.

01:44:11.000 That everything about femininity, motherhood, uh, the ability, uh, what it means to be a woman in modern age is denigrated in Hollywood in favor of telling much easier, simpler, masculine stories and just inserting females there.

01:44:24.000 And it's, it's why it always comes off as inauthentic.

01:44:26.000 It's why it never works.

01:44:27.000 Well, I thought Mad Max.

01:44:28.000 Nailed it.

01:44:30.000 Charlize Theron was basically the lead and she was powerful and almost exuded the masculine energy except Max was insane but still you could see his humanity and throughout the movie you see the man come back and it's like the power of the woman to help the man become masculine was just such a good, good dichotomy.

01:44:30.000 Fury Road.

01:44:48.000 Mad Max Fury Road is a woman in a man's role. 0.99

01:44:52.000 No, Max is still Max.

01:44:53.000 He's just lost his mind, so she helps him.

01:44:54.000 You don't understand.

01:44:55.000 The masculine role of going to war, going to combat, risking their lives to save the day, that's the masculine archetype.

01:45:05.000 Fury is not a feminine archetype.

01:45:09.000 It is a role written for a man with a woman cast in opposition.

01:45:11.000 But I think it's like if a woman in a post-apocalyptic situation found her man incapable of protecting himself, she would become Fury.

01:45:19.000 She would become that woman.

01:45:20.000 So what you're telling me is the story is femininity gets sacrificed when there's not a strong masculine presence.

01:45:20.000 And that was what was so cool about it.

01:45:25.000 But then you can see the femininity in Max, like the growth in the child.

01:45:30.000 You think so?

01:45:31.000 No, no, I think I think I'm with Tim on this.

01:45:34.000 I think Mad Max Fury Road, while it's a such a fun movie to watch, I think the story itself, the plot is is is not aging very well.

01:45:44.000 And we got a we got an amazing article written about us a couple of days ago from a guy named John Simley.

01:45:50.000 Just awesome.

01:45:51.000 We're all just so enjoying it.

01:45:52.000 It's a total hit piece, but we love that kind of stuff.

01:45:55.000 So we're reading this article, just quoting lines from it to each other and everything like that.

01:46:00.000 And it's just amazing.

01:46:01.000 And in it, he was so angry that there was religious iconography, that there was femininity, things like that.

01:46:12.000 It's a blast, right?

01:46:13.000 We're going to keep doing this and solve these things.

01:46:17.000 Remember, we're just getting started, right?

01:46:20.000 We should do something about Islam and Christianity and bringing them together.

01:46:24.000 I thought Wonder Woman was actually really great. 1.00

01:46:26.000 I wouldn't go as far to say that Wonder Woman was an overtly feminine role because she's still in war with her shield. 1.00

01:46:34.000 But there was something more motherly about her perspective on war and ending it.

01:46:38.000 It was the idealism versus the realism.

01:46:41.000 Her and Chris Pine having the argument about how to stop war from happening.

01:46:44.000 She was overtly idealistic.

01:46:46.000 We end the God of War and it's done. 0.67

01:46:47.000 He's like, no, sometimes people fight.

01:46:49.000 I really, really enjoyed that.

01:46:51.000 But in terms of actually getting femininity right, I think the issue is, Hollywood keeps saying, we're going to make a strong female character.

01:47:00.000 So write Rambo, but make it a woman. 1.00

01:47:01.000 It's like, yeah, but that's... No, it's Rambo's mom.

01:47:05.000 Well, we did Rambo.

01:47:07.000 We did Rambo adjacent as a woman in some ways in Run Hyde Fight. 1.00

01:47:13.000 We did everything they asked us to do and we got attacked for it.

01:47:16.000 I love the movie.

01:47:19.000 It's a great movie, but we followed the rules and still got attacked.

01:47:24.000 Let me read the super chat here.

01:47:25.000 We got Expedition.

01:47:27.000 Says Dallas, I'm a great first AD with good credits and have directed Episodic.

01:47:31.000 I left Hollywood because of my beliefs.

01:47:33.000 Want to use my talents and skills outside the system for outlets like Daily Wire.

01:47:37.000 Any ideas of how I can connect?

01:47:39.000 Absolutely.

01:47:40.000 The easiest way to get to me is DM me on BonfireLegend Instagram, at BonfireLegend.

01:47:47.000 So I'm not available anywhere else.

01:47:48.000 I'm certainly not on the hellscape of Twitter.

01:47:52.000 I'm too young for Facebook.

01:47:55.000 Keep an eye out for Expedition Pangaea, because I'm sure you'll get inundated, but they were the ones who made the request.

01:48:01.000 Great.

01:48:01.000 Oh, good.

01:48:02.000 I do want to before we go on point out that if they're looking for a series that does have a good amount of

01:48:06.000 masculinity in it, go check out Reacher on Amazon Prime.

01:48:09.000 Excellent.

01:48:11.000 That was a good one.

01:48:12.000 Excellent.

01:48:12.000 I was like when we did that when we covered the show, I'm like, okay, guys, I'm going to fanboy for about 25 minutes

01:48:18.000 here.

01:48:19.000 So you're going to have to you're going to have to like settle in while I just sing this the show's praises for

01:48:23.000 about 25 minutes.

01:48:24.000 And that dude is allowed to be both hyper-masculine, extremely smart, he even gets the woman in the show, which is almost like a no-no in today's day and age.

01:48:33.000 And the woman kid the female character is both strong, but also allowed to be feminine 0.99

01:48:39.000 And act she protects the children later on at the end of the show 0.72

01:48:43.000 It's it almost is the per in current year as close to perfect as you can get I do that type of character

01:48:49.000 I thought the show was fantastic. Does the guy have a flaw?

01:48:52.000 You got to give a gigantic flaw to the hero if you want to be super powerful

01:48:58.000 He does.

01:48:59.000 Yeah, Kryptonite.

01:49:00.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:49:01.000 Is he racist?

01:49:04.000 I don't want to spoil anything, but I would say he's short.

01:49:09.000 Five, five.

01:49:10.000 No, no, he's six.

01:49:11.000 I'm kidding.

01:49:12.000 His character is six, five.

01:49:13.000 But I would say, for Reacher, he is all of these really great things, but he takes, what's the right way to describe it?

01:49:21.000 His, like, honor is more important than his success.

01:49:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:49:26.000 Pride.

01:49:27.000 Pride is a big problem.

01:49:29.000 So, I don't want to spoil too much, but he's more interested in killing those who've wronged them than solving the case.

01:49:34.000 Vigilante, yeah, it's dangerous.

01:49:36.000 No, it's not vigilante, it's like, You know, we need, we need to get, no, no, slow down.

01:49:41.000 We need to capture this guy to learn who controls the system.

01:49:41.000 Thanks Tim.

01:49:44.000 And he goes, no, bang and kills him. 0.99

01:49:47.000 So he's more, he has no patience. 0.94

01:49:48.000 It's, it's, he's more interested in, in, in slight, in, in retribution than he is in solving the case.

01:49:54.000 He even, like there's early on in the show, he shoots two dudes in the back and she's like, these are exit wounds in the front.

01:50:00.000 And he's like, they would have killed me.

01:50:02.000 Oh, well, like it's very morally gray.

01:50:04.000 But the best part about the characters, in fact, he is almost Sherlock Holmes-ish in the way he describes when he solves a crime.

01:50:12.000 That character in modern day, at his size, and this dude is enormous, Alan Richson, is either going to be allowed to be hyper-masculine Big, hyper-masculine, or he's gonna allow to be smart.

01:50:21.000 He can't be both.

01:50:23.000 And they let the dude be both, and that was incredible.

01:50:25.000 I thought Sherlock, he's a heroin addict, which I thought made such a great- that was his big flaw, was he's a drug addict.

01:50:30.000 But it makes the character, like, when he succeeds, you're so happy for him, because he overcame his problem.

01:50:35.000 The character's a bit of a loner.

01:50:37.000 I don't know if you'd consider that a flaw, but he definitely has, like, attachment issues, and it's played as, like, a part of his character to be very much separate from society.

01:50:45.000 He's traveling his own road, and that plays a part of the character.

01:50:49.000 I don't know if it's necessarily a flaw, but it's definitely an element of who he is.

01:50:53.000 So let me read this one.

01:50:53.000 Murph says, Dallas, could there ever be a silent movie?

01:50:56.000 I've been thinking about how you could make a movie work with no dialogue.

01:50:59.000 It probably couldn't work, but it would be a challenge.

01:51:01.000 I think there's an obvious answer to this.

01:51:04.000 But did you want to address it first?

01:51:06.000 I would say a silent movie in many ways, you know, I made Bone Tomahawk and it had, I think, two minutes of score, right?

01:51:14.000 And most of the time people weren't talking or, or, or in some of the scenes it was very quiet.

01:51:19.000 So that, that's, that's a, that's a version of how far it could go.

01:51:23.000 Um, I would say that a silent movie could work if it was experimental and you found some way for it to still be appealing to a commercial audience in a modern era.

01:51:33.000 There's, there's two really simple answers.

01:51:35.000 I mean, um, we had, we just had that movie.

01:51:37.000 I thought it was terrible where you can't make a sound.

01:51:39.000 What is it with the quiet place, quiet place, which was very little dialogue.

01:51:44.000 And, uh, correct me if I'm wrong.

01:51:45.000 I haven't seen it in a while, but Apocalypto.

01:51:46.000 Yeah.

01:51:47.000 There's almost no dialogue.

01:51:49.000 I think there's literally no dialogue in Apocalypto, right?

01:51:51.000 They're speaking in, in, in their native language, but, but there's not, there's very little.

01:51:57.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 Um, but a quiet place, you know, I got bored by that.

01:52:00.000 I didn't like it.

01:52:01.000 It's just, it was too quiet.

01:52:03.000 Right.

01:52:04.000 Well, you know, they're not joking.

01:52:09.000 It's mentally painful.

01:52:10.000 So there's a, there's a room it's the, they call it the quietest in the world.

01:52:14.000 And when they say, I think the record for sitting in is 45 minutes.

01:52:17.000 So you'd have to watch the movie in that room to really get the full effect.

01:52:20.000 When you go into this quiet room, it's got these spikes that come out of the walls.

01:52:23.000 It absorbs almost all sound.

01:52:25.000 It's physically and it's like mentally painful for you to be in a room with no sound.

01:52:30.000 And I'll tell you this, I've been in soundproof rooms.

01:52:33.000 We have a sound booth where like all the sound absorbing stuff on the wall.

01:52:36.000 I've built soundproof rooms for recording.

01:52:39.000 I cannot stand sitting in soundproof rooms.

01:52:41.000 Because what happens is, what you don't realize, one thing that really becomes apparent, when you talk in a room, You don't realize you are hearing an echo because the sound bounces off the walls.

01:52:51.000 When you go into a fully soundproof room, it's a weird feeling.

01:52:55.000 You'll talk and then the sound erases the moment.

01:52:58.000 It's weird.

01:52:59.000 It's sharp almost.

01:53:00.000 No, I would call it dull.

01:53:02.000 It feels like I've got giant gym mats smashing my head.

01:53:06.000 I couldn't imagine going into that world's quietest room, you know?

01:53:12.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

01:53:14.000 Arturo says, the thing about Batman villains is that the conflict they create is not just violence, it's psychological.

01:53:20.000 Each of them is a study in human psychosis.

01:53:26.000 Your plug is rubbing on your headphones, I think.

01:53:28.000 Thanks, Tim.

01:53:28.000 Or, I don't know what that is, actually.

01:53:30.000 I think it's your power cable.

01:53:30.000 There's a buzz happening.

01:53:33.000 It's this hoodie.

01:53:34.000 It's all this hot, static electricity.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, so Batman Villains is not just violence, it's psychological.

01:53:39.000 Each of them is a study in human psychosis.

01:53:41.000 The Robes Gallery of Batman.

01:53:42.000 It is, it's really great.

01:53:43.000 Paul Dano as the Riddler is probably the part I'm most excited about.

01:53:46.000 Really?

01:53:47.000 It's Paul Dano?

01:53:48.000 Oh.

01:53:48.000 Yeah.

01:53:49.000 And Colin Farrell as Penguin.

01:53:51.000 No!

01:53:51.000 Yes.

01:53:52.000 In basically full bodysuit makeup.

01:53:54.000 Really?

01:53:55.000 And they're giving him his own show too on HBO Max to do beforehand.

01:54:01.000 Penguin?

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:02.000 They're going to do a Penguin spinoff with him.

01:54:04.000 Yo.

01:54:05.000 Probably so he doesn't have to wear the suit the whole time.

01:54:07.000 It'll be a prequel where he's just Oswald Cobblepot.

01:54:09.000 Body positivity.

01:54:10.000 Yep.

01:54:11.000 John Cena was fantastic in Peacemaker.

01:54:13.000 Miracle can't stand John Cena.

01:54:13.000 The best part!

01:54:15.000 I'm like, he was designed, he was literally built for this role.

01:54:18.000 It's fantastic.

01:54:19.000 And James Gunn, he's designed for James Gunn's style of writing, which blends very heartfelt, meaningful moments with really crude and over-the-top humor.

01:54:30.000 And he blends it together so perfectly that John Cena was the absolute perfect casting.

01:54:34.000 I think the Fast and Furious cinematic universe is the best cinematic universe.

01:54:39.000 And John Cena in the latest film, I was kind of like, you know, take it or leave him.

01:54:43.000 So I was kind of like, eh, John Cena.

01:54:45.000 But Peacemaker, I watch and I'm like, he nails it.

01:54:48.000 Peacemaker is a fun show.

01:54:49.000 I think they did a fantastic job.

01:54:51.000 And you know, I just absolutely love the end when I was like, oh, it's the democratic establishment of the evil villains.

01:54:57.000 I'm like, okay, you've won me over with your politics.

01:55:00.000 I'm half kidding, but at first I started to roll my eyes when they started to like, you know, monologue.

01:55:06.000 I told you about the line at the end, like at the end where I'm like, proto-fashion.

01:55:10.000 No spoilers.

01:55:11.000 That's not a spoiler.

01:55:12.000 It's just the line that she says.

01:55:13.000 Ah, it's a spoiler.

01:55:13.000 Don't say it.

01:55:14.000 All right.

01:55:15.000 That's like a key line at the end of the film.

01:55:16.000 So this is like a political movie sewing division by John Cena, the CCP guy.

01:55:22.000 No.

01:55:23.000 For sure.

01:55:24.000 Like John Cena coming out and, you know, doing that China bit.

01:55:27.000 Not, not, not good.

01:55:28.000 Not a fan.

01:55:28.000 And then we're like, and then they call it Pete.

01:55:30.000 Let's just put this peacemaker.

01:55:31.000 Everything's fine guys. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Peacemaker is a violent murderous psychopath. 1.00

01:55:33.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:55:37.000 The character, he was like, I will kill anyone for peace. 1.00

01:55:40.000 He's insane. 0.99

01:55:41.000 So he's like, I cherish peace with all my heart and I don't care how many men, women, and children I have to kill to get it. 0.98

01:55:47.000 That's right, and I love when he's with Vigilante and they're talking about how they have to kill, how they used to kill people, and it's like, sometimes you gotta kill the murderer or, you know, graffiti artists. 0.92

01:55:55.000 Jaywalkers. 1.00

01:55:56.000 Jaywalkers, yeah. 1.00

01:55:57.000 They're just insane people. 0.99

01:55:59.000 Yeah, they're not, they're villains. 0.99

01:56:00.000 It's funny, though.

01:56:01.000 All the characters in the show are insanely over-the-top bad, and that's the best part of it, except for Adebayo, who plays basically the straight man to the rest of the characters.

01:56:10.000 She's looking at all these people and she's like, what the hell is going on?

01:56:13.000 Who are these people?

01:56:15.000 I love it.

01:56:15.000 Yep.

01:56:17.000 All right, let's see.

01:56:17.000 What do we got here?

01:56:18.000 Let's read this one.

01:56:20.000 Agent Juice Cartoon says, Dallas Sanye, I admire you helping create a viable parallel Hollywood.

01:56:26.000 I want to do the same for animation.

01:56:28.000 I know you do live action, but any way to reach out to you or your studio, even if only for advice?

01:56:33.000 I would say absolutely reach out to me.

01:56:36.000 The Daily Wire is so pumped about doing animation, right?

01:56:41.000 They've got a couple of projects in the works, a lot of conversation, a lot of financial resources being put forth to this, so please reach out to me.

01:56:50.000 I'll hook you up with them.

01:56:52.000 We're actually working on a couple video games, actually.

01:56:54.000 It's hard to get going because we're not a video game company, but we have had for a while a playable... I guess you'd call it an alpha.

01:57:03.000 And it's... I don't want to give away too much, but I did post on Instagram like almost a year ago.

01:57:07.000 It's based on Freedom Tune's animation.

01:57:10.000 And I don't think we've said too much about what the plan is, but it's going to be like a roguelike combat game.

01:57:16.000 And so the goal is to... I'll just say this, the game mocks far-left extremists.

01:57:21.000 As they deserve.

01:57:22.000 as they deserve.

01:57:23.000 It's cartoon violence, so nothing over the top, but it mocks political extremists in

01:57:27.000 general.

01:57:28.000 And that's kind of the idea. 1.00

01:57:29.000 We want people to play games and make fun of the crazies and the idiots and not want 1.00

01:57:33.000 to be a part of that. 0.99

01:57:35.000 So we're working on stuff like that too.

01:57:37.000 I read a lot that Pixar animators are leaving because of basically Disney giving preference

01:57:43.000 to their animation studio over Pixar.

01:57:45.000 Yeah, you're a guy who's been there for 15, 20 years and you're expecting to get your

01:57:51.000 And they're not getting theater releases for any of that stuff.

01:57:54.000 They're putting all the Pixar stuff straight to Disney Plus while Disney animation movies go to the theaters.

01:57:59.000 Are those creators leaving?

01:58:00.000 I know a lot of them are creating their own projects outside there.

01:58:04.000 Is there a possibility of those animators coming over and working with you guys?

01:58:06.000 Yeah.

01:58:07.000 You know, animation is a new space for all of us.

01:58:10.000 We've been live action guys for so long, but it's an important space, especially because it can be comedic.

01:58:17.000 It can be for younger audiences, all kinds of stuff.

01:58:19.000 And it tends to get less scrutiny from the mainstream.

01:58:22.000 Like, I've noticed... We can get away with more.

01:58:25.000 DC animated movies are always far superior to DC live-action movies because they don't have to take as many liberties with the source material.

01:58:35.000 They can stay true to what the actual story was supposed to be.

01:58:38.000 Because of the reduced scrutiny, they're allowed to create what they want.

01:58:44.000 Constantine is an incredible character, and the Constantine film, I liked it, but they missed so much.

01:58:52.000 Constantine in the Justice League Dark films, as a character in the comics, is awesome.

01:58:58.000 The Keanu Reeves version is not nearly as awesome.

01:59:00.000 Now, as its own universe, I thought it was a great movie, but it's just not Constantine.

01:59:06.000 Matt Ryan does the live action role well on TV, but they wouldn't cast a TV actor to play that in a film at this point.

01:59:14.000 They would want a bigger name.

01:59:16.000 Daredevil!

01:59:17.000 I love Charlie Cox's Daredevil.

01:59:20.000 He's the exception.

01:59:21.000 That cameo.

01:59:22.000 And he also said that he wants to do that character for like the rest of his life.

01:59:25.000 He's like, I'd do like 10 more years of this if he can.

01:59:29.000 Not that I have any faith that Disney will be able to recapture the magic of Netflix's Daredevil.

01:59:35.000 That cameo was fantastic in No Way Home.

01:59:37.000 He's like, how did you do that?

01:59:39.000 I'm a really good lawyer.

01:59:41.000 I will say this out loud so we can start to manifest it, but how crazy would Hollywood go if Tim Pool and The Daily Wire collaborated on a movie together?

01:59:52.000 It'd be great.

01:59:53.000 I mean, I'm down.

01:59:54.000 What could we do?

01:59:55.000 Animation, live action, comedy, drama, I don't care.

01:59:58.000 We've got to figure it out because that would melt their faces.

02:00:01.000 It would be cool.

02:00:02.000 It would be an honor and a privilege.

02:00:03.000 Daily Wire spun up a master class on how to act, how to basically tech.

02:00:08.000 Because there's a lot of people I think want to come do this right now.

02:00:11.000 Yeah.

02:00:11.000 And if they understand.

02:00:12.000 I have a tiny version of it happening right now.

02:00:15.000 I call it Bonfire State University.

02:00:16.000 Nice.

02:00:17.000 And we bring about 10 people to all of our movie sets and we put them in new roles and they're very young and they're very hungry and they're, they're excited to learn.

02:00:25.000 So they get to see, and they get to see me and Gina Carano and our directors, Michael Polish.

02:00:31.000 How normal people are.

02:00:32.000 Well, it's that, that, that, but also like, How to conduct yourself on set, like, that is a skill.

02:00:37.000 I'll tell you.

02:00:38.000 And takes time.

02:00:38.000 Sit around and wait.

02:00:39.000 Hurry up and wait.

02:00:40.000 We're really working on it.

02:00:41.000 Daily Wire needs to fund a, like, 2,000 episode anime series.

02:00:47.000 So just, like, Dragon Ball, take it one piece, you know, and I'm actually half kidding.

02:00:54.000 I don't expect Daily Wire to fund anime, but I think there's a lot of, there's, like, the anime right meme.

02:01:00.000 You gotta do it!

02:01:01.000 Oh, a thing where a guy can go inside his own body, and then he has to fight the stuff in his own body to fix his body if he gets hurt.

02:01:08.000 Right, right.

02:01:09.000 The treatment.

02:01:09.000 Like Inception.

02:01:10.000 Come on, come on. 0.99

02:01:11.000 I think that's been done in many ways, but more as a subplot.

02:01:14.000 Yeah, it'd be a subplot.

02:01:15.000 It'd be like his power.

02:01:16.000 Buy the rights to Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. 0.76

02:01:20.000 And get Rick Moran aside.

02:01:21.000 Honey, I Shrunk the Kids was written by Stuart Gordon, the great horror director.

02:01:26.000 Well, I would love to do a movie.

02:01:29.000 I don't know what we would or could do.

02:01:31.000 You tell me, and we're game for whatever.

02:01:34.000 Sci-fi.

02:01:35.000 Yeah.

02:01:36.000 We gotta do sci-fi.

02:01:37.000 It is the number one thing we are not doing right now that we have to do.

02:01:40.000 Star Trek The Next Generation is my all-time favorite show.

02:01:43.000 There was a period where I was referencing it non-stop.

02:01:46.000 Then I started watching Stargate SG-1, which is also an amazing show.

02:01:49.000 Star Trek, man, The Next Generation was... I've got awesome ideas.

02:01:53.000 Have you ever heard of a charged black hole?

02:01:55.000 Cuz you're about to, baby.

02:01:57.000 It's a real thing.

02:01:58.000 Let's use it for teleport. 0.61

02:01:59.000 Let's do it.

02:02:00.000 We're gonna be warping around the galaxy.

02:02:01.000 My idea for everybody listening was a movie like, you know, Harold and Kumar or Dude, Where's My Car?

02:02:07.000 But it's about Ian trying to get to a graphene conference.

02:02:10.000 And then, you know, via spaceship.

02:02:12.000 No, no, no.

02:02:13.000 It's got to be normal to make those jokes.

02:02:16.000 So like, you know, Ian gets an invitation in the mail and it's like, you're hereby invited to the latest revelation in graphene technology.

02:02:23.000 And then he goes on wacky shenanigan adventures trying to get there.

02:02:26.000 Slips on a banana peel.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, stuff like that.

02:02:29.000 Falls down the stairs and then like, you know, and then gets picked up by the mafia and they think he's the delivery guy, but he's like, I'm I'm just trying to get to the Graphene Conference!

02:02:36.000 Like, is that a code word for something?

02:02:38.000 And they threaten him, and he's like, ah!

02:02:39.000 And then, you know, finally he makes it there, and you know, somehow he's now the CEO of a company, he's a millionaire, and he's on a jet pack, and he's like, my life's crazy, and graphene, you know?

02:02:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:02:49.000 That's my plan.

02:02:50.000 That's my idea.

02:02:51.000 I'm actually half kidding.

02:02:53.000 I think you could do it.

02:02:54.000 Alright everybody.

02:02:54.000 I'm just trying to find the graphene, man!

02:02:57.000 We're gonna have a conversation about what movie we can do.

02:03:00.000 But in the meantime, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, become a member at TimCast.com to help support all of our work.

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02:03:07.000 I'm really excited when I heard The Daily Wire was getting into movies.

02:03:09.000 I was like, it's exactly what we need.

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02:03:16.000 Dallas, you want to shout out anything specifically?

02:03:18.000 Yeah, you can find our new movie Shut In at Daily Wire on their app or at shutin.com.

02:03:25.000 I just have to say this, what Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring and all the guys over at Daily Wire are doing is so important in giving me the opportunity to make these great movies for us to help Gina Carano and folks like her continue to make movies outside the system.

02:03:43.000 It's really, really, really special.

02:03:45.000 I can say that there's a lot of love for Tim Kast over there and vice versa.

02:03:50.000 I think folks who are sort of pushing back on the left's narrative, the more we can do together, get in touch with each other, that's great.

02:03:59.000 This is gonna be so big and just understand like we are killing ourselves to make great movies and I tell you, Terror on the Prairie, the Gina Carano movie, is one of the best movies I've ever made.

02:04:14.000 I just gotta give you a correction.

02:04:15.000 No love.

02:04:16.000 No love.

02:04:17.000 No, no.

02:04:17.000 Pure jealousy.

02:04:18.000 Just envy.

02:04:19.000 I look at what the Daily Wire is doing and I'm like, man, we gotta step our game up.

02:04:23.000 We gotta get on this.

02:04:24.000 Movies, shows, and all that stuff.

02:04:26.000 No, but I kid.

02:04:27.000 I'm a big fan of everything they're accomplishing and they're working on.

02:04:31.000 And I gotta admit, I absolutely am jealous of how they're doing movies.

02:04:34.000 I'm like, man, I wanna do the same thing.

02:04:37.000 So we can build culture, and we can challenge the BS, and build parallel systems, and have our own spaces.

02:04:43.000 So absolutely amazing stuff.

02:04:44.000 Brett, you want to shout out?

02:04:45.000 Yes, guys.

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02:05:02.000 Follow us over there.

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02:05:06.000 And keep in mind, one of the wonderful things about the entertainment industry is that it's very cohesive.

02:05:10.000 There is competition to get into the industry, but once you're there and you're working on a project, the better you make everyone around you look and do, the more that you're going to end up working in that industry.

02:05:21.000 It's a very team-based orientation.

02:05:26.000 And so it's very easy to do once you get into it.

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02:05:31.000 Thank you, guys, all very much for joining us.

02:05:33.000 Oh, I adjusted my camera a little too far up.

02:05:35.000 I got a tall guy over there.

02:05:36.000 I was getting the toughest head.

02:05:37.000 Okay, there we go.

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