Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - TRUMP CNN TOWNHALL LIVE COMMENTARY w-Carpe Donktum & Crew

00:00:00.000 Tonight, CNN is hosting Donald Trump at a town hall that we have to absolutely watch

00:00:24.000 and probably make fun of.

00:00:26.000 Now, I don't know that we're going to make fun of Trump.

00:00:27.000 We'll probably make fun of the questions and then probably answer them or actually ask better questions, but we're going to be covering this and commenting on CNN's town hall with Donald Trump.

00:00:36.000 I think it's very important to break down, fact check, and call out any lies.

00:00:39.000 And there is some news.

00:00:41.000 The reason we're starting a few minutes early today is because they are going to be doing the town hall at 8 p.m.

00:00:47.000 Unlike a Trump speech, this one will probably be on time.

00:00:51.000 Well, maybe not, but more likely to be on time, considering it's CNN scheduling and not Trump's.

00:00:56.000 But I do want to give a shout out to some news stories.

00:00:58.000 Juror 77.

00:01:00.000 Ah, yes.

00:01:00.000 I'm in the news once again.

00:01:02.000 First, it was because apparently some guy, a horrible man, ran a Russian social media account where he posted clips from one episode of our show, which constitutes a fan, I suppose.

00:01:13.000 Then we get this other juror in the E. Jean Carroll story, the rape trial for Trump, who apparently watched four episodes of the show as well, and they said that constitutes him being a fan, and for that, he should be disqualified from the jury.

00:01:29.000 They also called me an extremist, a conspiracy theorist, and all the other nonsense.

00:01:32.000 But I do think it's fascinating that they would go that far.

00:01:35.000 You've watched a show a couple times?

00:01:37.000 Kick him off the jury.

00:01:39.000 That's how you know they're in a cult.

00:01:40.000 Because I don't see conservatives or the right or disaffected liberals doing anything Anything like that, or any sane jury.

00:01:46.000 How often do you hear of a jury, any side, plaintiff, defendant, whatever, being like, this guy watched four episodes of Rachel Maddow.

00:01:53.000 They should be removed from the trial.

00:01:55.000 That's how insane these people are, but I want to give a shout out to that story, so definitely shouting that one out.

00:02:00.000 Then we got some news as it pertains to Bud Light.

00:02:02.000 Their sales are down even more this week.

00:02:05.000 Now, according to Nielsen, 21% down last week, 23% down this week, and we're still lagging by about two weeks of data.

00:02:13.000 So I can only imagine the next weeks are going to get worse because it's becoming more than just a boycott.

00:02:17.000 It has become toxic.

00:02:19.000 Just people who don't even know what's going on don't want to be associated.

00:02:22.000 And according to Fox News, Dylan Mulvaney says they have trouble sleeping at night over this.

00:02:26.000 So we'll talk about all that.

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00:03:03.000 It's going to be a whole lot of fun tonight after we wrap up this town hall because we do have a lot of news that we're probably not going to be able to get into.

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00:03:11.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more and to comment humorously on the town hall is Carpe Donctum.

00:03:18.000 Hello!

00:03:19.000 Who are you?

00:03:19.000 What do you do?

00:03:20.000 Well, I'm a meme maker.

00:03:23.000 I make the funnies on the internet.

00:03:26.000 I was banned from Twitter for a couple years, so that was really fun.

00:03:30.000 I got sued over a meme.

00:03:31.000 That was really fun.

00:03:32.000 Wow.

00:03:35.000 I met the president once.

00:03:36.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:03:37.000 You make a bunch of funny memes, and they don't like you for it.

00:03:40.000 They really, really don't.

00:03:42.000 Yeah.

00:03:43.000 CNN really doesn't like me.

00:03:46.000 Daily Beast, I think it's pretty much all of them.

00:03:49.000 Right on.

00:03:52.000 But did you get anyone disqualified from a jury?

00:03:55.000 I didn't either, so I don't know.

00:03:58.000 Okay, no, I did get a guy thrown out of his school board.

00:04:03.000 His school board.

00:04:04.000 Because he shared one of my memes.

00:04:06.000 Oh, OK.

00:04:07.000 That was a couple years ago.

00:04:08.000 All right.

00:04:09.000 There we go.

00:04:09.000 All right.

00:04:10.000 Well, this should be fun.

00:04:11.000 Yeah.

00:04:11.000 Well, we got about a minute going.

00:04:13.000 We got Ben Stewart hanging out.

00:04:14.000 No Seamus.

00:04:15.000 How's it going, everybody?

00:04:16.000 BenJosephStewart.com, a documentary filmmaker.

00:04:20.000 And pretty soon, I have a film with Harrison Schultz called Game of Money.

00:04:26.000 That's going to be coming up on TimCast.

00:04:28.000 So that's going to be fun.

00:04:29.000 Right on.

00:04:30.000 And I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:04:31.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:04:33.000 And I am Surge.com.

00:04:35.000 I'm ready for this town hall when you are.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, we're just waiting.

00:04:39.000 We have about a minute until the town hall starts.

00:04:40.000 We've got CNN playing it.

00:04:43.000 How does he deal with this latest legal disaster?

00:04:47.000 I really don't want to hear what these people have to say right now.

00:04:49.000 Oh, someone's walking on stage.

00:04:51.000 I certainly don't think he'll change his tune on that, but I can't imagine it.

00:04:55.000 I'm sorry, I'm just going to mute that until they actually start getting ready, because I don't need to hear from those people.

00:05:01.000 I don't want to hear what CNN has to say.

00:05:03.000 But the other big story, as I suppose we're waiting for the town hall to start, was that Donald Trump was found liable in that rape trial, I guess.

00:05:12.000 And the crazy thing is, we talked about this last night, one of the jurors apparently was a fan of the show, and he still, they were unanimous, they unanimously found that Trump was liable for sexual abuse of this woman.

00:05:22.000 With what evidence?

00:05:24.000 Zero.

00:05:24.000 Zero evidence?

00:05:25.000 She came out and said, like, this one time this thing happened, and they're like, wow, Trump better pay her five million dollars.

00:05:29.000 Yeah, 30-year-old bruises, you know?

00:05:31.000 30-year-old bruises?

00:05:32.000 Did she have pictures or something?

00:05:33.000 No, she didn't.

00:05:34.000 That's a joke I'm making.

00:05:34.000 She still had them for 30 years, you know.

00:05:36.000 There's no evidence.

00:05:37.000 There's nothing there.

00:05:38.000 Do you know how they can even do that?

00:05:39.000 How they can find somebody liable for a crime that they can't even prove happened?

00:05:44.000 There's no crime.

00:05:45.000 Last year, New York passed a law saying that people who are assaulted can sue the people who assaulted them forever or something like that.

00:05:54.000 And apparently they went on CNN and said, like, we helped get this law passed.

00:05:57.000 So they helped make a law that says they can sue a guy.

00:06:00.000 This is why I'm saying Trump's going to be convicted of the tax fraud or whatever they're calling it, improper business filings.

00:06:07.000 They're going to convict him.

00:06:08.000 It's going to be unanimous.

00:06:09.000 Do you know when they got that law passed?

00:06:11.000 A year ago.

00:06:12.000 Interesting.

00:06:13.000 I wonder if they had this brewing for that long.

00:06:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, of course.

00:06:17.000 Probably passed the law to bring this case.

00:06:18.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:06:19.000 I mean, I think they said that, didn't they?

00:06:21.000 That they helped get the law passed that allowed them to bring this case.

00:06:24.000 And then you get a jury in New York unanimously says Trump is liable.

00:06:28.000 That's why I'm like, people are saying, you got to get this guy in the show.

00:06:30.000 And I'm like, this anti-Trump guy who thinks Trump's responsible 30 years ago?

00:06:34.000 Really?

00:06:34.000 Yo, he said he watched the four episodes of the show.

00:06:37.000 He didn't say that he was a big fan of it.

00:06:39.000 I mean, I'd love to talk to them.

00:06:41.000 What is CNN doing?

00:06:41.000 Are they getting ready for this?

00:06:42.000 Here we go.

00:06:43.000 There's no way to like lower the volume on this. 1.00

00:06:52.000 It's so stupid. 0.99

00:06:53.000 Just mute it. 1.00

00:06:53.000 I can just run it down. 1.00

00:06:56.000 Yeah, I just need to be able to mute it periodically.

00:06:58.000 Town.

00:06:59.000 Ugh.

00:06:59.000 Look at her power suit.

00:07:00.000 We're live here at St. Anselm College for CNN's Town Hall with former President Donald Trump.

00:07:05.000 Town.

00:07:06.000 I'm Kaitlin Collins.

00:07:07.000 Tonight, President Trump is here as he embarks on a campaign unlike any other in the history

00:07:11.000 of U.S. presidential elections.

00:07:13.000 He's the first former president in more than a century to seek a return to the White House. 0.97

00:07:17.000 She's so awful.

00:07:18.000 And he is currently leading the Republican deal.

00:07:20.000 Do we know?

00:07:21.000 Her.

00:07:22.000 It's just her?

00:07:22.000 I think so, yeah.

00:07:23.000 Don Lemon's not doing it?

00:07:24.000 No.

00:07:24.000 No?

00:07:24.000 Okay.

00:07:24.000 No, he doesn't work at CNN anymore.

00:07:26.000 Oh, is it?

00:07:27.000 Does it happen?

00:07:28.000 Oh.

00:07:28.000 questions are off the table. No, he doesn't work at CNN anymore. Oh, is it happened? Oh, I didn't know. Our

00:07:34.000 audience is made up of Republicans and undeclared voters.

00:07:37.000 Elon Musk offered Don Lemon, New Hampshire's Republican.

00:07:40.000 No joke, seriously he did.

00:07:40.000 That would be a very hot question.

00:07:42.000 So what do we think?

00:07:44.000 Is Trump going to be as crazy as ever or is he going to be really toned down? 0.70

00:07:46.000 I think he's going to probably tone himself down. 0.93

00:07:48.000 He may make a few remarks.

00:07:50.000 He's dying.

00:07:50.000 He's looking presidential.

00:07:50.000 Joe Biden.

00:07:51.000 Is Trump gonna be as crazy as ever or is he gonna be really toned down? 0.88

00:07:54.000 For President Donald Trump. 0.92

00:07:56.000 I think he's gonna probably tone himself down.

00:07:58.000 He may make a few remarks.

00:07:59.000 He's here.

00:08:00.000 He's dying.

00:08:02.000 He's looking presidential.

00:08:04.000 Oh, one side standing ovation.

00:08:06.000 Got that power tie on.

00:08:07.000 Thank you.

00:08:11.000 So for those that are listening, we'll be reading your Super Chats periodically throughout the show, where they're most relevant.

00:08:19.000 Did you notice he doesn't have an X where he has to walk?

00:08:22.000 Thank you for your time here tonight.

00:08:23.000 Oh yeah, like a mark.

00:08:24.000 I don't know.

00:08:25.000 We have a great crowd here in New Hampshire, a lot of voters, with a lot of questions about

00:08:28.000 what your 2024 term would look like, what another Trump term would look like.

00:08:32.000 We'll get to the voters shortly, but your polls show that you are dominating the Republican

00:08:37.000 race right now, but you are also under active federal investigation for trying to overturn

00:08:42.000 the 2020 election results.

00:08:44.000 Your first term ended with a deadly riot at the Capitol, and you still have not publicly acknowledged the police involvement in the election results.

00:08:52.000 Why should Americans put you back in the White House?

00:08:55.000 Because we did fantastically.

00:08:57.000 We got 12 million more votes than we had in, as you know, in 2016.

00:09:01.000 I actually say we did far better in that election.

00:09:05.000 Got the most that anybody's ever gotten as a sitting president of the United States. 1.00

00:09:09.000 I think that when you look at that result and when you look at what happened during that election, unless you're a very stupid person, you see what happened. 0.99

00:09:20.000 A lot of the people in this audience, and maybe a couple that don't, but most people understand what happened. 0.99

00:09:26.000 It was a rigged election, and it's a shame that we had to go through it.

00:09:29.000 It was very bad for our country.

00:09:30.000 All over the world, they looked at it, and they saw exactly what everyone else saw as rigged.

00:09:35.000 What does it mean?

00:09:37.000 If we're talking about universal mail-in voting, if you look at the FBI and Twitter.

00:09:46.000 They call it Twitter files.

00:09:47.000 You see, that's what he's talking about.

00:09:49.000 Mr. President, back to what you just said there, though, it was not a rigged election.

00:09:52.000 It was not a stolen election.

00:09:54.000 You and your supporters lost more than 60 court cases on the election.

00:09:58.000 It's been nearly two and a half years.

00:10:00.000 Can you publicly acknowledge that you did lose the 2020 election?

00:10:03.000 Let me just go on.

00:10:05.000 Stop talking, Gatelin.

00:10:06.000 They found memes and votes on camera, on government cameras, where they were stuffing ballot boxes.

00:10:12.000 So with all of that, I think it's a shame that what happened.

00:10:16.000 I think it's a very sad thing for our country.

00:10:17.000 No, I think Trump's rounding himself with bad people who misled him on this.

00:10:21.000 Because if you look at what's gone to our country, our country has gone to hell.

00:10:23.000 Our borders are bad. 0.94

00:10:24.000 Our military has been bad.

00:10:26.000 You look at the taxes, you look at inflation, what's happened to inflation.

00:10:30.000 It's just destroying our country.

00:10:32.000 We've really become in many ways a third world country, and it's very sad what's happened

00:10:37.000 in this administration.

00:10:38.000 And it's sad.

00:10:39.000 Something that will turn around on day one.

00:10:41.000 We were energy independent.

00:10:42.000 Now energy is at a level that we've never had to pay before.

00:10:45.000 Nobody can afford to continue to pay what's happening with energy.

00:10:49.000 But we were energy independent.

00:10:51.000 We were getting out of Afghanistan with strength and with dignity.

00:10:55.000 And instead, we got out. 1.00

00:10:56.000 We looked like fools. 0.98

00:10:56.000 Probably the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. 0.98

00:10:59.000 We have a lot of questions about the economy and foreign policy tonight.

00:11:02.000 But what you just said there, Republican officials debunked those claims about fraudulent ballots.

00:11:08.000 We want to give you a chance tonight, Republican officials in Georgia and every single state.

00:11:13.000 There is no, your own election officials, Mr. President.

00:11:16.000 So we wanted to take on the issue, but we have a big problem in this country.

00:11:20.000 We have elections.

00:11:21.000 We have elections that were horrible.

00:11:24.000 If you look at what happened in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, if you look at what happened in Detroit, Michigan, if you look at what happened, he just I know this is frustrating because it's just three years old.

00:11:35.000 You're baiting him to talk about something that nobody wants to hear.

00:11:37.000 He'd look better if he just stayed on topic.

00:11:39.000 I'm voting for him.

00:11:40.000 He will take the bait.

00:11:41.000 You're baiting him to talk about something that nobody wants to hear.

00:11:44.000 He'd look better if he just stayed on top of it.

00:11:46.000 Your election officials testified to that and have said that Republicans in these states...

00:11:50.000 The issue is the structural changes Democrats made that gave them advantages with ground

00:11:54.000 game, universal mail-in voting, nursing homes ballot harvesting, ballot chasing.

00:11:58.000 I want to bring in Scott Gesson from Comcast.

00:12:00.000 Trump is just to say it and then get off the topic because it's old.

00:12:05.000 I don't think him talking about that is going to do any favors.

00:12:07.000 No, I think it does.

00:12:08.000 I mean, we're the only ones watching this.

00:12:09.000 I'm not getting any favors.

00:12:10.000 No, I think it's a nice guy.

00:12:11.000 Hi, President Trump.

00:12:12.000 Welcome back to New Hampshire.

00:12:13.000 I mean, we're the only ones watching this, other than Matt.

00:12:14.000 Will you suspend polarizing talk of election fraud during your run for president?

00:12:20.000 Will I suspend, excuse me, what?

00:12:22.000 Will you suspend polarizing talk of election fraud during your run for president?

00:12:28.000 Yeah, unless I see election fraud.

00:12:30.000 If I see election fraud, I'm not going to.

00:12:32.000 They're going to bait him so hard with this, it's what's going to hurt him the most.

00:12:35.000 Did he write that question?

00:12:36.000 Because he had to read it again.

00:12:38.000 I hope to do that.

00:12:39.000 I hope we're going to have very honest elections.

00:12:43.000 We should have voter ID.

00:12:44.000 We should have one day elections. 0.92

00:12:45.000 We should have paper ballots. 0.96

00:12:47.000 He's right about that.

00:12:48.000 We should have one day voting, IDs, paper ballots.

00:12:51.000 Absolutely.

00:12:51.000 It's going to be very straight up because if it's going to be straight up, we're going to win the election.

00:12:55.000 So you will suspend talk to his question about the 2020 election on the campaign trail?

00:12:59.000 I guess we're going to just win.

00:13:02.000 We're at a point now we're getting so close.

00:13:03.000 Let's just win it again and straighten out our country.

00:13:06.000 One other question on this.

00:13:06.000 She's so mad.

00:13:13.000 They always want to force them into saying yes or no.

00:13:16.000 You once suggested terminating the constitution.

00:13:20.000 Do you stand by those comments?

00:13:22.000 No, no.

00:13:22.000 You were able to do certain things.

00:13:24.000 I'm not talking about terminating the Constitution.

00:13:26.000 I'm talking about cherishing the Constitution.

00:13:29.000 The Constitution says it was supposed to have legal and well-maintained and well-looked-at elections, and we didn't have that.

00:13:38.000 I cherish our Constitution, but we have to live up to the Constitution.

00:13:42.000 We weren't living up to the Constitution.

00:13:44.000 I was just saying, there's no evidence of that election fraud.

00:13:46.000 You did once tweet... They're baiting him and he's falling right for it.

00:13:49.000 I'm glad you say that.

00:13:50.000 But he can't not respond.

00:13:51.000 That was a horrible election.

00:13:53.000 He can say, that's so old.

00:13:54.000 Are you seriously talking about that? 1.00

00:13:56.000 You sound silly. 1.00

00:13:56.000 Unless somebody's very stupid and I know you very well, you're not stupid at all. 1.00

00:13:59.000 He could deflect too. 1.00

00:14:01.000 That has to be a real question.

00:14:02.000 They know this hurts them in the polls with moderates.

00:14:04.000 We have done honest elections in our country.

00:14:06.000 We have open borders.

00:14:07.000 There we go.

00:14:10.000 He's the pivot to a question.

00:14:11.000 The borders.

00:14:12.000 Yeah.

00:14:14.000 I mean, I liked his Afghanistan.

00:14:15.000 We have open borders.

00:14:16.000 Look at what's happening on our southern border.

00:14:19.000 Millions and millions of people are coming in.

00:14:21.000 They're being released from prisons.

00:14:23.000 They're being released from mental institutions.

00:14:26.000 And we have millions of people pouring into our country.

00:14:30.000 And now they're getting rid of Title 42, which I put on, which kept people out that were sick.

00:14:35.000 And Mr. President, we have a lot of questions about immigration to get to tonight.

00:14:38.000 Obviously, that's a big topic.

00:14:39.000 She's going to go back to fraud. 1.00

00:14:40.000 It's expected to happen tomorrow.

00:14:41.000 But I want to talk about the influence you have over your voters.

00:14:44.000 It's very clear that you are very influential over them.

00:14:47.000 You have a lot of impact.

00:14:47.000 I've been to many of your rallies and seen it up close, which raised a lot of questions about the influence that we saw that you had on them on January 6th.

00:14:54.000 This is the whole plan for the town hall.

00:14:57.000 Do you have any regrets about your actions on January 6th?

00:15:01.000 Well, you know, January 6 was a go back to it.

00:15:04.000 But January 6 had to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of people and you don't see the pictures very often.

00:15:11.000 A lot of the people here probably were there January 6.

00:15:14.000 It was the largest crowd I've ever spoken to.

00:15:17.000 That was prior to the walk down to the Capitol building.

00:15:21.000 I don't think and I've spoken to Hundreds of thousands of people.

00:15:24.000 I've never spoken to a crowd as large as this.

00:15:27.000 And that was because they thought the election was rigged.

00:15:30.000 And they were there proud.

00:15:31.000 They were there with love in their heart.

00:15:34.000 That was an unbelievable and it was a beautiful day.

00:15:37.000 And what I was asked to do, I wasn't involved in it very much.

00:15:41.000 I was asked to come in.

00:15:42.000 Would I make a speech?

00:15:43.000 I made a speech.

00:15:44.000 I said, walk peacefully and patriotically, you know, many different things.

00:15:48.000 In fact, I brought a list of things.

00:15:50.000 I don't want to bore the audience, but we can go sentence after sentence after sentence of things I said and things I put out.

00:15:57.000 Their plan trouble.

00:15:57.000 The big problems was that Nancy Pelosi, crazy Nancy, as I affectionately call her, Crazy Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington were in charge, as you know, of security.

00:16:08.000 I'm not sure what he's supposed to do, though, because they're going to just keep hitting him, and he can keep pivoting.

00:16:12.000 Well, I offered them national guard.

00:16:13.000 I said, we'll give you soldiers, we'll give you national guard, we'll give you whatever you want.

00:16:17.000 And I think this is a good point.

00:16:18.000 And they turned me down.

00:16:18.000 Yeah, I think the State Department has no security.

00:16:20.000 She turned me down in writing.

00:16:22.000 They turned me down.

00:16:23.000 But I think Defense Secretary Chris Miller at the time, he said you never gave a formal order to deploy the national guard.

00:16:28.000 Trump needs to talk about the economy, immigration.

00:16:30.000 Immigration, immigration right now. 0.86

00:16:32.000 I met the producer in New York saying, no, no, no, back, back, back.

00:16:39.000 January 6th election.

00:16:40.000 January 6th election.

00:16:42.000 Knock him down in the polls.

00:16:43.000 It'll hurt Trump bad.

00:16:44.000 They haven't said the high word yet.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, but he really should have, like, very succinct talking points on these so he can then pivot.

00:16:54.000 But they're baiting him.

00:16:54.000 They're baiting him.

00:16:55.000 They're baiting him.

00:16:56.000 If they would have taken 500 soldiers, you wouldn't have had the problem.

00:16:59.000 He's smart enough to see that.

00:17:00.000 They turned it down.

00:17:01.000 And if you look at the Inspector General report, he says they turned it down.

00:17:05.000 They made a terrible mistake.

00:17:06.000 Well, Chris Miller was your acting defense secretary.

00:17:08.000 He says you never gave that order.

00:17:10.000 This response isn't a terrible response.

00:17:11.000 He did not say that.

00:17:12.000 I think this is his best line.

00:17:13.000 He did not say that.

00:17:14.000 And if he deflects entirely, people are going to be more suspicious.

00:17:17.000 Am I allowed to say that?

00:17:22.000 When they went to the Capitol, and they were breaking into the Capitol, smashing windows, injuring police officers, why did it take you three hours to tell them to go home?

00:17:31.000 I don't believe it did.

00:17:32.000 Oh, let me pull it out.

00:17:33.000 I have to pull it out.

00:17:36.000 That's going to be memed.

00:17:37.000 Let me pull it out.

00:17:38.000 I have to pull it out.

00:17:39.000 So if you look at on January 5th, the day before, I said, please support our Capitol Police and law enforcement.

00:17:50.000 They are truly on the side of our country.

00:17:53.000 Stay peaceful.

00:17:54.000 Stay peaceful.

00:17:55.000 This was the day before, and this was in the form of Twitter.

00:17:58.000 Now use truth.

00:17:59.000 Truth social.

00:18:00.000 I think it's far superior.

00:18:01.000 OK?

00:18:02.000 I hope everybody's on.

00:18:03.000 He also sponsors himself.

00:18:04.000 I hope everybody's on truth.

00:18:06.000 If you look, January 6th is before 2.30.

00:18:10.000 I am asking for everyone at the U.S.

00:18:12.000 Capitol to remain peaceful.

00:18:13.000 This is right after, as it was happening.

00:18:16.000 But what happened is, they took it down.

00:18:19.000 I don't know why.

00:18:21.000 I think they took it down because it was so good, they didn't like it.

00:18:26.000 And we didn't know until I got it back, because now I have 90 million people waiting for me to go back.

00:18:31.000 But I'm on truth and I'm staying on truth.

00:18:34.000 Listen, I am asking for everyone at the U.S.

00:18:36.000 Capitol to remain peaceful.

00:18:37.000 No violation.

00:18:39.000 We want no violation.

00:18:41.000 We want no violence.

00:18:42.000 Remember, we are the party of law and order.

00:18:45.000 Respect the law and our great men and women in blue.

00:18:48.000 Thank you.

00:18:48.000 That was a 230.

00:18:50.000 That was pretty early.

00:18:51.000 Mr. President, I looked at the same timeline that you did.

00:18:53.000 104?

00:18:53.000 105?

00:18:53.000 No, no, but you didn't report that.

00:18:55.000 You know why?

00:18:56.000 Because it was taken down.

00:18:56.000 We did report it.

00:18:57.000 I was reporting that date.

00:18:58.000 It was taken down or it wasn't reported.

00:18:59.000 But when it was clear to you that they were not being peaceful, you saw them rushing the Capitol, breaking windows, they were hitting officers with flagpoles, tasing them, beating them up.

00:19:09.000 When it was clear they weren't being peaceful, Why did you wait three hours to tell them to leave the Capitol?

00:19:15.000 They listen to you like no one else.

00:19:17.000 You know that.

00:19:18.000 They do.

00:19:18.000 I agree with that.

00:19:19.000 It wasn't three hours.

00:19:21.000 Nancy Pelosi and the mayor are in charge.

00:19:23.000 I assume they were able to do their job.

00:19:25.000 They weren't.

00:19:25.000 What time did they get in the building?

00:19:26.000 It was two o'clock, wasn't it?

00:19:27.000 I don't remember the exact time.

00:19:33.000 I don't know what they were expecting.

00:19:34.000 Was he supposed to wade through the crowd and go up to the front?

00:19:38.000 Well, no one can even use social media at the Capitol because you couldn't get internet.

00:19:42.000 I think he should have. And I think that's dumb. 0.99

00:19:44.000 He obviously called him. He said, don't violate the law. 0.98

00:19:47.000 Well, no one can even use social media at the Capitol because you couldn't get

00:19:52.000 Internet. No, we have to have peace.

00:19:55.000 We have to have law and order.

00:19:57.000 We have to respect our great people of law and order.

00:19:59.000 We love the people of law and order.

00:20:01.000 We can't play into the hands of these other people.

00:20:03.000 It's just their false narrative that he didn't do something he should have done.

00:20:08.000 And he's totally right.

00:20:08.000 Nancy Pelosi did not request peace and security.

00:20:10.000 They took that down, and you know, to this day, it hasn't been put up.

00:20:14.000 And the reason is it's so good and so conclusive that all of this nonsense and all of the heads of millions of dollars that have been spent Or just wiped away with this one.

00:20:24.000 And they've never put it back up.

00:20:25.000 They had another one that they did.

00:20:26.000 That's when the barricades were broken through.

00:20:29.000 When Northeast barricades were breached at 1.57 p.m.

00:20:31.000 They breached the Capitol at 2 p.m.

00:20:33.000 That's 2.30.

00:20:34.000 It means if he made that statement at 2.30, that was right away.

00:20:37.000 Actually, a little bit before that.

00:20:39.000 Right, so that's my question.

00:20:40.000 Because in that three hours, over 140 officers...

00:20:43.000 Where's her three hours coming from? 1.00

00:20:45.000 She's not even citing a tweet.

00:20:46.000 I think the reason the timeline is so critical here, because going back to your influence, in that three hours, over 140 officers were injured that day.

00:20:55.000 And a person named Ashley Babbitt was killed.

00:20:58.000 Yes.

00:20:59.000 You know what?

00:20:59.000 She was killed, and she shouldn't have been killed.

00:21:01.000 And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her. 0.98

00:21:05.000 They're going to hit him about that. 0.98

00:21:07.000 Cold, blank range, they shot her.

00:21:10.000 And she was a good person.

00:21:11.000 She was a patriot.

00:21:13.000 There was no reason.

00:21:14.000 There was no reason.

00:21:15.000 And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.

00:21:20.000 The officer was not bragging about the fact that he killed her.

00:21:22.000 But one person who was at the Capitol that day, as you know, was your vice president, Mike Pence, who says that you endangered his life on that day.

00:21:30.000 I don't think he was in any danger.

00:21:32.000 Mr. President, do you feel that you owe him an apology?

00:21:35.000 No, because he did something wrong.

00:21:37.000 We should have put the votes back to the state legislatures, and I think we would have had a different outcome.

00:21:41.000 So we're 16 minutes in, and we're still on January 6th and election day.

00:21:45.000 He doesn't have the authority to do that.

00:21:45.000 Yep.

00:21:46.000 What?

00:21:47.000 Because it hurts him.

00:21:48.000 How long is this scheduled for?

00:21:49.000 An hour and a half.

00:21:50.000 An hour and a half.

00:21:50.000 Let's have this one not just now, because it's interesting.

00:21:53.000 Let's keep it interesting, right?

00:21:55.000 And he is better when he's in direct.

00:21:56.000 I like Mike Pence very much.

00:21:57.000 He's a very fine man.

00:21:57.000 He's a very nice man.

00:21:58.000 He made a mistake.

00:21:59.000 His lawyer said, you cannot move.

00:22:02.000 I called him the human conveyor belt.

00:22:04.000 I said, even if the votes you made, and I talked to his lawyer, even if the votes

00:22:07.000 are absolutely fraudulent, he can't say, yes sir, he can't sit in bed.

00:22:10.000 And the Democrats played it, and the RINOs played it. 0.69

00:22:13.000 And then the election was over.

00:22:15.000 They told him he couldn't do it.

00:22:16.000 And Mike said to me, I can't do it.

00:22:18.000 The lawyers told me you can't do it.

00:22:19.000 They can't do it.

00:22:20.000 But the lawyers were wrong, because right after the election, they all met the rhinos and the Democrats, and they worked out a plan to make sure that future vice presidents don't do.

00:22:31.000 What I said you could do.

00:22:32.000 That's not what happened.

00:22:33.000 You're referring to the Electoral Count Act.

00:22:35.000 I've read that.

00:22:36.000 There is no authority.

00:22:37.000 Legal experts, including Republican legal experts, say that he does not have that authority.

00:22:41.000 Is this a town hall or a Trump versus CNN debate?

00:22:44.000 I think it's a debate.

00:22:45.000 They didn't change the law.

00:22:46.000 They strengthened the law.

00:22:47.000 We've got one question so far, right?

00:22:50.000 Also with this expert from Caitlin, the CNN director.

00:22:54.000 My family wanted to do it.

00:22:56.000 They convinced him he didn't and it was a horrible thing for our country.

00:23:00.000 If you would've sent those votes back to Georgia, Pennsylvania, and other states, Wisconsin, which if you look at Wisconsin, they virtually admitted now that the election was rigged.

00:23:10.000 They have not admitted that.

00:23:11.000 Many of those states.

00:23:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:23:14.000 My bad.

00:23:15.000 I didn't realize.

00:23:15.000 I bow to her legal expertise.

00:23:16.000 My bad. I didn't realize that.

00:23:18.000 I bow to her legal expertise.

00:23:20.000 You admitted what I said was right.

00:23:22.000 They said he didn't have the right to do it.

00:23:24.000 And he did have the right to do it.

00:23:26.000 You should just get him to Hurst. Isn't that really funny?

00:23:28.000 And that's why they changed the law, taking that right away.

00:23:30.000 He's already kind of doing it.

00:23:31.000 I should note that your campaign paid for a recount in Wisconsin.

00:23:34.000 It actually had more votes for President Biden by the end of it, but I want to move on to Wayne Beyer.

00:23:38.000 He's a retired attorney from North Carolina.

00:23:39.000 I heard the last word, never moving on.

00:23:40.000 So many illegal votes were cast in Wisconsin, and if you look in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, they had so many illegal votes, they didn't even know what to do with them.

00:23:49.000 You're absolutely wrong about that.

00:23:50.000 Mr. President, there weren't any fraudulent votes in Wisconsin.

00:23:53.000 I do want to get to the audience, though.

00:23:54.000 We have questions for you from the audience.

00:23:56.000 Well, there weren't any?

00:23:57.000 Wayne Byers, a retired attorney from North Carolina.

00:23:58.000 Bill Barr said there were some, but not that many.

00:23:59.000 He's previously served in Republican administrations.

00:24:01.000 I just can't stand either of those.

00:24:02.000 He volunteered for the Republican Party in the 2022 midterms.

00:24:05.000 He voted for you in 2020.

00:24:07.000 What's your question for the President, Wayne?

00:24:08.000 Thank you for coming, Mr. President.

00:24:10.000 Thank you, Wayne.

00:24:11.000 My question to you is, will you pardon the January 6th rioters who were convicted of federal offenses?

00:24:20.000 I am inclined to pardon many of them.

00:24:23.000 I can't say for every single one because a couple of them, probably they got out of control.

00:24:28.000 That's fair.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, that's fair.

00:24:29.000 I like that.

00:24:30.000 This is a trap question, but I think it's a fair answer.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, so far.

00:24:33.000 I don't think it's a bad question, honestly.

00:24:38.000 Look at what they did to Seattle and BLM. 0.65

00:24:40.000 Many people were killed.

00:24:42.000 the LM to many people were killed.

00:24:44.000 But I do think a lot of Republicans want to know.

00:24:46.000 I'm not trying to justify anything.

00:24:48.000 But you have two standards of justice in this country.

00:24:52.000 And what they've done and what they've done And I love that question because what they've done to so many people is nothing, nothing.

00:24:59.000 And then what they've done to these people, they've persecuted these people.

00:25:03.000 And, yeah, my my answer is I am most likely if I get in, I will most likely I would say it will be a large portion of them.

00:25:10.000 You know, they did a very.

00:25:12.000 And it'll be very early on.

00:25:17.000 And they're living in hell right now.

00:25:19.000 So when it comes to pardons— They're living in hell.

00:25:22.000 And they're policemen, and they're firemen, and they're soldiers, and they're carpenters, and electricians, and they're great people.

00:25:28.000 Many of them are just great people.

00:25:30.000 Mr. President, one of the people who was convicted was a former policeman, but he was convicted of attacking a police officer, I should note.

00:25:37.000 But when you said you are considering pardoning a large portion— What?

00:25:40.000 of those charged with crimes on January 6th.

00:25:42.000 Does that include the four Proud Boys members who were charged and convicted of seditious conspiracy?

00:25:47.000 I don't know. I'd have to look at their case.

00:25:49.000 But I will say, in Washington, D.C., you cannot get a fair trial. You cannot.

00:25:54.000 Just like in New York City, you can't get a fair trial.

00:25:56.000 He is correct.

00:26:00.000 Speaking of New York, I want to ask you about a significant verdict that was reached yesterday.

00:26:05.000 I know this is something you want to weigh in on as well.

00:26:07.000 A Manhattan jury found that you sexually abused the writer E. Jean Carroll and defamed her.

00:26:12.000 You've denied this.

00:26:13.000 The audience is laughing.

00:26:15.000 It disqualifies you from being president.

00:26:17.000 There aren't too many of them because my poll numbers just came out.

00:26:19.000 They went up.

00:26:20.000 Oh, man.

00:26:21.000 And the only person in history who had a charge like that.

00:26:29.000 And usually in the polls, when I office, you say, I'm sorry, but I'm going to back home.

00:26:33.000 I'm back home to my family and everything.

00:26:35.000 I'm going to be resigned.

00:26:36.000 My poll numbers went up and they went up with the other fake charge, too, because what's

00:26:40.000 happening is they're doing this for election interference.

00:26:44.000 This woman, I don't know her.

00:26:45.000 I never met her.

00:26:47.000 I have no idea who she is.

00:26:48.000 I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband.

00:26:51.000 Nice guy.

00:26:52.000 John Johnson.

00:26:53.000 He was a newscaster.

00:26:54.000 Very nice man. 0.61

00:26:55.000 She called him an ape. 0.94

00:26:57.000 Happens to be after an African American called him an ape. 1.00

00:27:00.000 The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in her dog or her cat was named Vagina. 1.00

00:27:06.000 The judge wasn't allowed to put that in. 0.79

00:27:08.000 All of these things.

00:27:10.000 But with her, they can put in anything.

00:27:12.000 Access Hollywood put in anything.

00:27:13.000 This is a jury of nine people who found you liable of sexual abuse.

00:27:17.000 Do you think that that will deter women from voting for you? 0.91

00:27:20.000 No, I don't think so, because I think the whole thing... Do you think that one juror is listening tonight?

00:27:23.000 Just so you understand.

00:27:24.000 Ready?

00:27:26.000 I never met this woman.

00:27:28.000 I never saw this woman.

00:27:30.000 It's a little Bill Clinton.

00:27:31.000 You did just say you took a picture of her, though.

00:27:32.000 I met her in the front door of Bergdorf Goodman, which I rarely go into, other than for a couple of charities.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, he should clarify that.

00:27:37.000 I met her in the front door.

00:27:39.000 She was about 60 years old then.

00:27:41.000 This is like 22, 23 years ago.

00:27:43.000 I met her in the front door of Bergdorf Goodman.

00:27:46.000 I was immediately attracted to her, and she was immediately attracted to me.

00:27:50.000 And we had this great chemistry.

00:27:52.000 We're walking into a crowded department.

00:27:54.000 So we had this great chemistry.

00:27:56.000 And a few minutes later, we end up in a a room, a dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman cash register.

00:28:04.000 And then she found out there are locks on the door.

00:28:05.000 So she said, I found one that was open.

00:28:07.000 She found one.

00:28:08.000 She learned this at trial.

00:28:09.000 She found one that was open.

00:28:11.000 What kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up? 1.00

00:28:14.000 And within minutes, you're playing hanky panky in a dressing room.

00:28:19.000 I don't know if she was married then or not.

00:28:21.000 John Johnson, I feel sorry for you, John Johnson.

00:28:23.000 Mr. President, can I... I know you're recounting what she said, but... I know you're recounting what she said, but I like it.

00:28:31.000 Just so you understand, if I was walking in... Because I was very famous then, and I owned the Plaza Hotel right next door and I owned buildings around it.

00:28:38.000 I'm not going into...

00:28:40.000 He's right.

00:28:40.000 The dressing room of a crowded department store.

00:28:43.000 Then I say, if she was being raped, and by the way, they said she wasn't raped.

00:28:48.000 Okay, that was her charge. 0.98

00:28:49.000 They found that you sexually abused her.

00:28:52.000 Say what? 0.93

00:28:53.000 They said he didn't rape her.

00:28:55.000 And I didn't do anything else.

00:28:56.000 Actually, they did.

00:28:57.000 They ruled that wasn't true.

00:28:58.000 But Mr. President, can I ask you, given you're recounting your version.

00:29:02.000 I don't know who, and I tell you this.

00:29:03.000 Are you ready?

00:29:04.000 And I spoke to my children, which I never do.

00:29:08.000 I have no idea who this woman... 1.00

00:29:10.000 This is a fake story, made-up story.

00:29:14.000 We had a horrible Clinton-appointed judge. 1.00

00:29:16.000 He was horrible.

00:29:17.000 He allowed her to put everything in.

00:29:19.000 He allowed us to put nothing in.

00:29:21.000 Mr. President, you're re-enacting your version of a venture right now to the audience.

00:29:22.000 There's no way Trump walked around New York by himself without people screaming, it's

00:29:28.000 Donald Trump.

00:29:29.000 You did not go to the trial and actually testify.

00:29:30.000 He's doing what you intend to do.

00:29:31.000 He's doing what you intend to do.

00:29:32.000 It wouldn't have made a difference.

00:29:33.000 This is a rigged deal.

00:29:34.000 My lawyer said, sir, you don't have to do it.

00:29:37.000 I actually said, I think I should, it would be respectful.

00:29:40.000 They said, sir, don't do it.

00:29:42.000 This is a fake story and you don't want to give it credibility.

00:29:45.000 That's why I didn't go.

00:29:48.000 And I swear, and I've never done that, and I swear to... I have no idea who the hell... She's a whack job. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Mr. President, you did not testify in person. 0.98

00:29:58.000 Donald Trump do this without her.

00:30:02.000 You defended the comments that you made on that excess Hollywood tape about being able to grab women how you want.

00:30:07.000 Do you stand by those comments?

00:30:09.000 I'm not that surprised.

00:30:09.000 A little.

00:30:10.000 I said if you're famous and rich or whatever I said, but I said if you're a star...

00:30:15.000 You are.

00:30:16.000 And I said, women let you. 1.00

00:30:18.000 I didn't say you grip.

00:30:20.000 I said women let you know you didn't use that word. 1.00

00:30:22.000 But if you look, women let you. 1.00

00:30:25.000 Now they said, will you take that back?

00:30:27.000 I said, look.

00:30:28.000 For a million years, this is the way it's been.

00:30:31.000 I want to be honest.

00:30:32.000 This is the way it's been.

00:30:33.000 I can take it back if you'd like to, but if you're a famous person, if you're a star, and I'm not referring to myself, I'm saying people that are famous, people that are stars, people that are rich, people that are powerful, they tend to do pretty well in a lot of different ways, okay?

00:30:51.000 And you would like me to take that back?

00:30:53.000 I can't take it back because it happens to be silver.

00:30:55.000 I said it's been true for one million years, approximately a million years, perhaps a little bit longer than that.

00:31:00.000 So you stand by those comments?

00:31:01.000 Well, I don't want to lie.

00:31:02.000 Mr. President, we have a lot of questions.

00:31:04.000 Here's what she wants me to say.

00:31:05.000 Mr. President, let's get to the audience questions tonight.

00:31:07.000 A rich and famous person has no advantage over us.

00:31:11.000 And I say, unfortunately, but...

00:31:13.000 That's the way it is.

00:31:14.000 He wants me to lie.

00:31:15.000 A rich and famous person has no advantage.

00:31:16.000 We have a lot of audience questions to get to tonight.

00:31:18.000 I want to go back to the audience.

00:31:20.000 We've got Danielle Rieger.

00:31:21.000 She works as an oral surgery assistant.

00:31:23.000 She's a Republican activist from Derry.

00:31:25.000 She was a New Hampshire delegate for you in 2020. 0.99

00:31:28.000 What's your question?

00:31:29.000 Hi, thank you so much for coming to New Hampshire to answer our questions.

00:31:33.000 My question is regarding the economy.

00:31:36.000 Over the past two years, we have seen the prices for everything skyrocket.

00:31:40.000 From food to gas to utilities and insurance costs, many people's bills are up several hundred dollars a month, including mine.

00:31:49.000 If elected president again, what is the first thing you would do to help bring down the cost to make things more affordable?

00:31:55.000 Something voters actually care about.

00:31:56.000 Drill, baby, drill. 1.00

00:31:57.000 Woo! 0.99

00:31:58.000 I agree with that.

00:31:59.000 Good answer.

00:32:00.000 We've got a lot of time.

00:32:05.000 We were energy-independent.

00:32:08.000 We were soon going to be energy-dominant.

00:32:11.000 And nobody had ever done what I did.

00:32:13.000 We got oil down to $1.87.

00:32:15.000 Actually, it fell lower than that in some cases.

00:32:17.000 We had to save the oil companies the price was getting.

00:32:21.000 We were doing incredibly.

00:32:22.000 We had the greatest economy in the history of our country, probably the greatest economy in the history of the world.

00:32:26.000 We're energy independent, soon to be energy dominant.

00:32:29.000 We were going to be bigger than Russia and Saudi Arabia put together times two.

00:32:34.000 We have more liquid gold under our feet than any other nation, any other nation. 1.00

00:32:39.000 And these stupid fools ended it. 1.00

00:32:43.000 And energy went from $1.87 and even lower for gasoline, for a car, 1.00

00:32:48.000 they went from $1.87 to $5, $6, $7, $8 and even $9.

00:32:53.000 And your electricity bills went through the roof, your heating bills went through the roof.

00:32:57.000 And that's what started inflation.

00:32:59.000 And it hasn't stopped because people are paying now for bacon and for eggs

00:33:04.000 and for the two and three times what it was just a little while ago.

00:33:08.000 We created the greatest economy in history.

00:33:11.000 A big part of that economy was I get got you the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country, bigger than the Reagan cuts, bigger than anything.

00:33:20.000 And also, Caitlin, also, as you know, we got the biggest regulation and regulatory cuts.

00:33:27.000 We this place was rocking.

00:33:29.000 And then we were given a gift from China and China paid a big price.

00:33:33.000 And let me tell you something.

00:33:34.000 I took in hundreds of billions of dollars in taxes from China.

00:33:39.000 But prior to covid coming in and then I rebuilt the economy again a second time.

00:33:44.000 But we had prior to covid coming in as from China from Wuhan, which I said it came from Wuhan.

00:33:50.000 Everybody said, oh, you're wrong about that.

00:33:51.000 You're wrong.

00:33:52.000 It came from Wuhan.

00:33:53.000 I said it right from day one.

00:33:55.000 So we had the greatest economy in the world.

00:33:58.000 Here's the story.

00:33:59.000 They made energy so high and energy is all.

00:34:02.000 Invasive, it is massive as an industry and as a cost.

00:34:06.000 It lifted everything.

00:34:07.000 If you made donuts, if you made, no matter what you did.

00:34:11.000 She just sounds like she's whining. 0.75

00:34:12.000 We had inflation, the likes of which I guess we haven't had since 52 years, but I think more than that.

00:34:17.000 Cause she doesn't know how to do anything. 1.00

00:34:19.000 Well, and that's why CNN put it there.

00:34:21.000 They use moderator as a loose term.

00:34:23.000 This country was rocking and rolling.

00:34:25.000 And by the way, we had the most secure border in the history of America.

00:34:29.000 She's doing it conveniently for her.

00:34:39.000 Millions of jobs lost, people not getting their social security payments, people believe it would put the U.S.

00:34:43.000 economy into a recession.

00:34:46.000 On that topic, I want to bring in Marta Cervella, a student here at St. 0.78

00:34:49.000 Anselm.

00:34:50.000 She is an undeclared voter who did not vote in 2020.

00:34:52.000 Marta, what's your question?

00:34:54.000 Hi, Mr. President.

00:34:55.000 So my question is, what do you think about the United States' current debt situation and how can we move forward?

00:35:03.000 Such an important question.

00:35:04.000 So we're at $33 trillion, a number that nobody ever thought possible.

00:35:09.000 When we had our economy rocking and rolling just prior to COVID coming in, like literally, we were making a fortune and oil.

00:35:17.000 We're going to make so much money from oil.

00:35:19.000 We're going to start paying off debt.

00:35:21.000 But then with COVID coming in, we had to do other things.

00:35:23.000 We had to keep this country alive because it was so serious.

00:35:26.000 But we have to get the country back.

00:35:28.000 We have to lower energy prices.

00:35:29.000 We have to lower interest rates.

00:35:31.000 Interest rates are through the roof.

00:35:33.000 Energy has to come down.

00:35:34.000 It all has to come down.

00:35:35.000 And we have to start paying off debt.

00:35:37.000 But When we have a debt limit, and they use that very seriously.

00:35:41.000 I mean, they came in, Schumer came in with Nancy Pelosi and they were using it.

00:35:45.000 We'll violate it.

00:35:46.000 We'll do whatever.

00:35:47.000 They talked a whole lot different than they do right now.

00:35:50.000 I say to the Republicans out there, congressmen, senators, if they don't give you massive cuts You're going to have to do a default.

00:35:57.000 Do it.

00:35:57.000 And I don't believe they're going to do a default, because I think the Democrats will absolutely cave, because you don't want to have that happen.

00:36:06.000 But it's better than what we're doing right now, because we're spending money like drunken sailors.

00:36:11.000 So just to be clear, Mr. President, you think the U.S.

00:36:13.000 should default if the White House does not agree?

00:36:16.000 It's like they come in from being out, and then they go out and party.

00:36:20.000 Because we have to save this country.

00:36:21.000 Our country is dying. 1.00

00:36:23.000 Our country is being destroyed by stupid people. 1.00

00:36:26.000 By very stupid people. 1.00

00:36:27.000 You said that using the debt ceiling as a negotiating wedge just could not happen. 1.00

00:36:33.000 You said that when you were in the Oval Office.

00:36:35.000 That's why I was president.

00:36:36.000 So why is it different now that you're out of office?

00:36:38.000 Because now I'm not president.

00:36:42.000 He's taking it back.

00:36:43.000 Trump's taking it back.

00:36:45.000 His polling is going up.

00:36:46.000 I can feel it.

00:36:47.000 He's warming up.

00:36:48.000 The US defaulting would be massively consequential for everyone in this room, for all Americans.

00:36:51.000 You don't know.

00:36:52.000 It's psychological.

00:36:53.000 You don't know.

00:36:53.000 Get out of here, Caitlin.

00:36:54.000 It's psychological more than anything else.

00:36:56.000 And it could be very bad.

00:36:57.000 It could be maybe nothing.

00:36:58.000 Maybe you have a bad week or a bad day.

00:37:01.000 But look, you have to cut your costs.

00:37:04.000 We're spending $7 trillion on Much of it on nonsense.

00:37:10.000 Seven trillion dollars on nonsense.

00:37:13.000 I actually said get all of that money that was wasted and frankly the Senate should have never approved it.

00:37:19.000 Get all that money that was wasted and if they don't get rid of that you'll have to default.

00:37:23.000 Mr. President, we've got another voter here tonight.

00:37:25.000 And by the way, you're going to default eventually anyway, but it's going to be much messier.

00:37:29.000 I don't think you'll have to default.

00:37:31.000 I think if the Republicans hold strong and they say, we want five, let's say we want $5 trillion off.

00:37:38.000 I really think the Democrats have no choice, but to do it.

00:37:41.000 And if I win, they're going to be doing the same thing to me in two years.

00:37:44.000 I guarantee you that.

00:37:48.000 He's a student at St.

00:37:51.000 Anselm.

00:37:51.000 He's a member of College Republicans.

00:37:53.000 He's an undeclared voter right now.

00:37:55.000 He supported you in 2020.

00:37:56.000 Bobby, what's your question for President Trump?

00:37:58.000 Hi, thank you for coming.

00:38:00.000 This is a bit of a pivot, but with gun violence and mass shootings in the news cycle recently, I'm worried that state governments and the federal government are going to act to repress gun rights.

00:38:08.000 Under your administration, you instructed the Department of Justice and the ATF to ban bump stocks.

00:38:14.000 If elected president again, how would you act not only to defend our Second Amendment rights, but to restore rights that have been taken from us by you, such as, by example, recently the ATF's ruling on the pistol stabilizing braces?

00:38:25.000 Yeah, as you know, the bump stocks are actually a very unimportant thing.

00:38:28.000 And NRA, I went with them and they said, It doesn't mean anything.

00:38:32.000 Actually, all they do is teach you how to shoot very inaccurately.

00:38:35.000 So we did that.

00:38:35.000 That's technically true.

00:38:36.000 There's been nobody that's protected the Second Amendment, as you know, like I have.

00:38:39.000 I protected it through thick and thin.

00:38:42.000 Not easy to do.

00:38:43.000 But we have a very big mental health problem in this country.

00:38:47.000 And again, it's not the gun that pulls the trigger.

00:38:49.000 It's the person that pulls the trigger.

00:38:51.000 And we have to protect our Second Amendment.

00:38:52.000 We have to protect our Second Amendment.

00:38:55.000 Mr. President, you dealt with a lot of mass shootings when you were in office.

00:38:59.000 This year, there have already been more than 200 mass shootings in 2023.

00:39:03.000 If you are re-elected, are there any new gun restrictions that you would sign into law?

00:39:08.000 I would do numerous things.

00:39:10.000 For instance, schools.

00:39:11.000 We would harden, very much harden.

00:39:13.000 And I also am a very believer.

00:39:15.000 I believe in teachers.

00:39:16.000 I love teachers.

00:39:17.000 I think they're incredible.

00:39:17.000 And they love the children, not quite like the parents, but they love the children, in many cases, almost as much.

00:39:22.000 Many of these teachers are soldiers, ex-soldiers, ex-policemen.

00:39:26.000 They're people that really understand weapons.

00:39:28.000 And you don't need 5 percent of the teachers would be more than you could ever have if you're going to hire security guards.

00:39:33.000 But in addition to that, have security guards.

00:39:36.000 You have to harden your entrances.

00:39:37.000 You have to make schools safe.

00:39:39.000 And you can make other places safe.

00:39:41.000 But it is a big Mental health problem in this country more than anything else.

00:39:46.000 And remember, we have 700 million guns, 700 million.

00:39:52.000 Many people, if they don't have a gun, they're not going to be very safe.

00:39:55.000 I mean, if they don't have a gun, it gives them security.

00:39:58.000 Now, you need them for entertainment.

00:39:59.000 You need them for hunting.

00:40:00.000 You need them for a lot of different things.

00:40:02.000 But there are people that if they didn't have the privilege of having a gun in some form, They many of them would not be alive today.

00:40:12.000 You know, there is a certain country that had a very strict policy on guns.

00:40:16.000 Very, very strict.

00:40:17.000 Which country?

00:40:18.000 Brazil.

00:40:19.000 OK, Brazil.

00:40:20.000 A very strict and the former president of Brazil's and the killing was incredible.

00:40:26.000 They were walking into people's homes and killing people.

00:40:29.000 They had no protection.

00:40:30.000 Should go out and buy guns.

00:40:32.000 People went out and bought guns and it went way down.

00:40:34.000 The numbers went way down because they had security.

00:40:37.000 If you look at Chicago, Chicago has a single toughest gun policies in the nation.

00:40:42.000 They are so tough you can't breathe.

00:40:44.000 New York, too, and other places also.

00:40:47.000 All of those places are the worst and most dangerous places.

00:40:50.000 So that's not the answer.

00:40:52.000 No new restrictions that you would sign if re-elected, Mr. President.

00:40:54.000 I want you to meet Julie Miles, a registered nurse from Merrimack.

00:40:57.000 She's a Republican who voted for you in 2020. 0.83

00:41:00.000 Julie, what's your question for the president?

00:41:02.000 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:41:03.000 I appreciate you answering this question this evening.

00:41:06.000 How do you plan to appeal to women voters in New Hampshire who are concerned about the Dobbs decision and how states may change their laws?

00:41:13.000 It's such a great question and it was such a great victory and people are starting to understand it now.

00:41:20.000 You know that they wanted to bring it back to the states, but that was probably the least important part of that victory.

00:41:25.000 Getting rid of Roe v. Wade was an incredible thing for pro-life because it gave pro-life something to negotiate with.

00:41:33.000 Pro-life had absolutely nothing being stuck in Roe v. Wade to negotiate with.

00:41:38.000 And now what's happening, and I see it all over, deals are being made, deals are going to be made.

00:41:43.000 And, look, everybody that was president wanted to get rid and tried to get rid of Roe v. Wade.

00:41:51.000 You mean Republicans?

00:41:52.000 Republicans.

00:41:53.000 For 50 years, this has been going on.

00:41:55.000 Actually, a couple of Democrats, too.

00:41:57.000 But for 50 years, this has been going on.

00:42:00.000 I was able to do it and I was very honored to do it.

00:42:02.000 But by doing it, things are happening that are very, very positive.

00:42:06.000 And you have to I happen to believe in the exceptions, the life of the mother. 0.76

00:42:10.000 Rape incest like Ronald Reagan believed in the exceptions. 0.77

00:42:13.000 But I happen to believe that.

00:42:15.000 I think it I think it's frankly important to do that.

00:42:18.000 But a lot of people are, you know, against that relatively small, relatively small number.

00:42:23.000 But the way the way I look, I think it's very important to say this.

00:42:27.000 I consider the other side to be radical because the other side under Roe v. Wade and other things, the other side, they're radical because they will Remember the debate with Hillary Clinton, they said, rip the baby out of the womb at the end of the ninth month.

00:42:40.000 They will kill the baby in the ninth month. 0.67

00:42:44.000 If you look at that crazy governor of Virginia from the former governor, where he said, no, the baby will be born and then we'll decide, essentially, whether or not to execute the baby. 0.96

00:42:53.000 But Mr. President, can we talk about what you would do?

00:42:56.000 It's not the pro-life people that are radical.

00:42:58.000 I was going to say, he needs to bring that up, and then he did.

00:43:00.000 Nailed it.

00:43:00.000 Tim's texting.

00:43:01.000 Tim's texting Trump.

00:43:01.000 to your desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?

00:43:04.000 Tim's texting.

00:43:04.000 What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy.

00:43:06.000 Tim's texting Trump.

00:43:07.000 But the fact that we were able, I was able, I'm so proud of it,

00:43:10.000 we put three great justices on the Supreme Court.

00:43:13.000 We have almost 300 federal judges on the Supreme Court.

00:43:17.000 So you, just to be clear, just to be clear, Mr. President, you will sign a federal abortion ban into law.

00:43:23.000 I said this, I said this, I want to do what's right.

00:43:26.000 And we're looking, and we want to do what's right for everybody.

00:43:29.000 But now for the first time, the people that are pro-life have negotiating.

00:43:35.000 capability because you didn't have it before. They could kill the baby in the

00:43:39.000 ninth month or after the baby was born. Now they won't be able to do that. 0.98

00:43:43.000 But I think this is a really important question for you to answer because this is something all every

00:43:47.000 Republican including those who are running against you for the nomination

00:43:49.000 are being asked about is would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?

00:43:53.000 And many of them are going to give you the same answers. I am first of all I am

00:43:58.000 honored to have done what I did.

00:44:00.000 And a lot of people said, they said in 150 years he's now the most consequential president because he saved so many lives.

00:44:07.000 And I'm honored to have done it.

00:44:12.000 And because of what I've done, we now have a great negotiating ability.

00:44:16.000 That's what I do in life, I negotiate.

00:44:18.000 We have a great negotiating ability, and I think we're going to be able to get something done.

00:44:21.000 But what do you mean negotiating ability?

00:44:22.000 Because the question that Republicans have, and some of your allies on Capitol Hill say that they want to introduce legislation when it comes to banning abortion.

00:44:30.000 If they send it to your desk, would you sign it?

00:44:32.000 Some people are at six weeks.

00:44:34.000 Some people are at three weeks.

00:44:35.000 There we go.

00:44:36.000 Good answer.

00:44:37.000 President Trump is going to make a determination what he thinks is great for the country and what's fair for the country.

00:44:43.000 But the fact that I was able to terminate Roe v. Wade after 50 years of trying, they worked for 50 years.

00:44:50.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:44:51.000 They worked.

00:44:52.000 And I was even I was so honored to have done it.

00:44:55.000 We are in a very good negotiating position right now, only because of what I was able to do.

00:45:00.000 And remember that he's not going Again, you talk about radicalism.

00:45:04.000 People that will kill a baby in the ninth month, or the eighth month, or the seventh month, or after the baby is born, they're the radicals, not the pro-electors.

00:45:13.000 I just want to give you one more chance, though, because you did not answer whether or not you've signed a federal abortion ban or how many weeks into pregnancy you believe Yeah, but I've given you the answer probably four times already.

00:45:29.000 I'm looking at a solution that's going to work.

00:45:32.000 Very complex issue for the country.

00:45:34.000 You have people on both sides of an issue.

00:45:36.000 But we are now in a very strong position, pro-life people are in a strong position to make a deal that's going to be good and going to be satisfactory for them.

00:45:45.000 If you weren't able to get rid of, you wouldn't even be having a discussion, if you weren't able to get rid of Roe v. Wade, which put pro-life in a dead position, a horrible position.

00:45:54.000 They could kill the baby at any time they wanted to, but we did something that nobody thought was doable.

00:46:01.000 And other Republican presidents, and others by the way, they wanted to get it out.

00:46:05.000 They also wanted to bring it back to the states, but bringing it back to the states is a less important issue than the issue that we just talked about.

00:46:10.000 But that's why it's the question about a federal abortion ban. 0.82

00:46:12.000 You did not say yes or no to that.

00:46:13.000 It depends what the deal is.

00:46:15.000 Lindsey Graham's a man, he's got an idea, and a lot of other people have an idea.

00:46:20.000 And I look at all the... It depends on the deal.

00:46:23.000 That's your answer.

00:46:23.000 She needs to move on.

00:46:24.000 She's terrible.

00:46:25.000 President Trump, we've got more questions to come for you tonight.

00:46:28.000 We'll be right back in just a moment.

00:46:29.000 Oh look at that, we get a break!

00:46:33.000 I'm impressed so far.

00:46:34.000 The beginning was a little slow, but I'm impressed with where we got so far.

00:46:38.000 That was 40 minutes with no commercials, and now they're doing a commercial.

00:46:41.000 I guess they only got one commercial break or something.

00:46:44.000 And he must know how long this is.

00:46:45.000 That's one of the reasons he probably kept filibustering.

00:46:48.000 With the abortion thing, I was like, he's got to hit at how these states are enacting restrictionless Outright abortion at nine months, viability, all of that stuff.

00:46:57.000 Because most Americans find that completely unreasonable.

00:47:01.000 And then I think Trump's got some really great stuff going on where he's like, well, I'm not president!

00:47:06.000 You know, like, that was really good.

00:47:09.000 It was really good.

00:47:11.000 It was good that he had the timestamps and she would not accept that she was wrong.

00:47:15.000 I gotta say, what is she doing?

00:47:17.000 This is, it's crazy to me.

00:47:18.000 When we had Lance from the Surf's On last week, and we do this a lot, a lot of people get mad, they're like, why wasn't, you know, we had Destiny on, why wasn't Tim drilling Destiny and going crazy?

00:47:26.000 Because we're not debating!

00:47:26.000 It's a debate show!

00:47:27.000 Half, half of the time, like sometimes, they'll say something that is wrong, and I'll be like, no, no, no, that's incorrect, you can't say that.

00:47:33.000 Sometimes they'll be like, I believe X because of this reason, and I'll go, okay.

00:47:37.000 Like, you're allowed to have a moral position and an opinion.

00:47:40.000 I can't be like, your opinion is wrong!

00:47:42.000 I'm just like, oh, okay.

00:47:44.000 And then what they try to do is they say like, oh, Tim got owned or whatever.

00:47:46.000 No, this is the problem with the modern left, default liberals or leftists.

00:47:50.000 Caitlin Collins thinks no matter what Trump says, she has to try and get him.

00:47:55.000 Instead of saying, Trump, what's your thoughts on this?

00:47:59.000 Thank you for telling us that next question.

00:48:01.000 What are your thoughts on this?

00:48:02.000 It's like, Nope, you're wrong.

00:48:03.000 Nope, you're wrong, wrong.

00:48:05.000 That's where she's coming from.

00:48:06.000 She wants to get him.

00:48:07.000 And like, it's she's made it her personal mission.

00:48:10.000 Yeah, to get him on every answer.

00:48:12.000 And also to get that soundbite that they can put into every commercial for the next two years. And for her own prowess, right? Like 0.90

00:48:20.000 she is looking at this Washington Examiner article, there's speculation that they'll offer

00:48:25.000 her Chris Cuomo spot, right? So she is trying to launch her career off of getting Trump to say the 0.95

00:48:29.000 infamous soundbite. She wants that to be her moment. Like this is, I respect that, right? She's

00:48:35.000 in broadcast journalism. She wants her Megyn Kelly moment that Megyn Kelly didn't even get. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Yeah. So.

00:48:42.000 I don't know what this guy Licked Guy sees in Cailin Collins.

00:48:48.000 I can understand having her be a reporter, but giving her a show, then having her host a presidential town hall, it's just not there.

00:48:55.000 Like Anderson Cooper I get.

00:48:57.000 Cailin Collins I don't get.

00:48:58.000 I, you know, Megan Kelly is good.

00:49:01.000 She, she did a great job with Trump.

00:49:04.000 There are a lot of people I think could do way better than her. 0.98

00:49:06.000 I think there are.

00:49:07.000 I think CNN thinks about the way its voters want to see Trump portrayed.

00:49:11.000 Right.

00:49:12.000 And that makes sense.

00:49:12.000 It's their channel.

00:49:13.000 But I think conservative viewers tend to want a moderator who is going to keep the conversation going and who isn't there to just fact check.

00:49:21.000 Whereas MSNBC CNN tends to staff people who are there to fact check everyone involved in debates.

00:49:27.000 And it becomes real.

00:49:27.000 I had a professor when I was at SMU who did a study on this who said, you know, You find that left-leaning mainstream media, they spend a lot of time saying, well, actually that's not correct.

00:49:38.000 Whereas when you're on Fox or a different network, it tends to be more just about making sure that you're hearing from enough people that are actually sort of holding the true position of a moderator.

00:49:49.000 Well, I think they also want to have a woman on there so that it can be this combative thing that they can say, oh, you know, look at how dismissive he is of the moderator.

00:49:59.000 You know, she's asking all these really good questions and he won't answer them.

00:50:03.000 And then he says mean things to her.

00:50:05.000 And it holds up his finger.

00:50:06.000 Yeah.

00:50:06.000 And it holds up his finger.

00:50:07.000 Like, how would, how dare you do that to a woman?

00:50:09.000 You don't hold up your finger.

00:50:10.000 You know, I just got, I just got an idea as I'm watching these CNN commercials.

00:50:14.000 We should run commercials on CNN.

00:50:15.000 You should, it'd be really funny.

00:50:17.000 Tim Cast IRL commercials.

00:50:18.000 They'd be pretty cheap right now, I think.

00:50:20.000 Yeah, I think, I think they're like eight grand for 30 seconds.

00:50:23.000 You know how with like NPR, if they're doing a story on something, they have to occasionally say like, just in full transparency, you know, Apple is a sponsor of NPR or whatever.

00:50:31.000 CNN would have to be like, when they report on you, just to be clear, Tim Pool is a sponsor.

00:50:36.000 Welcome back to CNN's Republican Presidential Town Hall with former President Donald Trump.

00:50:42.000 President Trump, I'd like you to meet Jennifer Simmons.

00:50:44.000 She is a stay-at-home mom and former town selectman from Windham.

00:50:48.000 She's Republican and she voted for you in 2020.

00:50:50.000 Jennifer, what's your question tonight?

00:50:52.000 Good evening, Mr. President.

00:50:53.000 Title 42 is expected to expire tomorrow.

00:50:56.000 Our southern border and now our northern border are experiencing record migration.

00:51:00.000 We learned on May 2nd that the Biden administration plans on deploying 1,500 troops to the southern border.

00:51:07.000 Do you agree with deploying troops to the border?

00:51:09.000 And how will a Trump administration slow down the rate of migrants coming across all our borders?

00:51:14.000 A very fair question, especially since tomorrow is going to be a day of infamy.

00:51:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:19.000 You're going to have tens of thousands of people pouring into our country.

00:51:24.000 Even the judge, you know, the judge overruled them when they wanted to terminate it early.

00:51:27.000 And he said, you know that you better extend this thing.

00:51:30.000 The judge in Texas said, I hope you're going to extend this.

00:51:34.000 But this is my policy that they're letting terminate because they lost in court.

00:51:38.000 They wanted to go earlier.

00:51:39.000 You're going to have millions of people pouring into our country right now at a level that nobody's ever seen before. 0.96

00:51:46.000 These people are sick.

00:51:47.000 Anybody that wants this to happen to our country, they're destroying our country. 0.98

00:51:51.000 And this should not be allowed to happen.

00:51:53.000 How they're not going to do a version of Title 42 or my Title 42, which was tough.

00:51:59.000 If people are sick and have infectious diseases and lots of other problems, We don't want them being into our country. 1.00

00:52:05.000 We have enough problems right now.

00:52:07.000 We have problems like we've never had in the history of our country.

00:52:11.000 But Mr. President, our country is being destroyed.

00:52:14.000 The reason it's ending is because the health policy, the COVID era pandemic emergency is coming to an end.

00:52:19.000 That's what Title 42 was.

00:52:21.000 You put it in place because of COVID.

00:52:23.000 When it comes to big questions about what your immigration policy would look like if you are reelected, Some of your Republican rivals have criticized you for not fulfilling the promises that you made on the campaign trail, like finishing the border wall.

00:52:34.000 So how did voters know that you would get those done if you're re-elected?

00:52:37.000 I did finish the wall.

00:52:39.000 I built a wall.

00:52:40.000 I built hundreds of miles of wall, and I finished it.

00:52:43.000 And then I said, we have to build some more because there are areas like water going through a dam.

00:52:48.000 There are some areas where a lot of people are coming.

00:52:50.000 You close up one and they come into another.

00:52:52.000 And we started another hundred miles of wall.

00:52:56.000 In fact, I said to my people, if we start this and don't finish it.

00:53:00.000 And then we had a rigged election.

00:53:01.000 I'm sorry to say it.

00:53:05.000 He shouldn't bring it up.

00:53:06.000 The election stuff hurts this moment.

00:53:07.000 If she were really moderating, she would have gone back to her question.

00:53:11.000 He shouldn't bring it up.

00:53:14.000 The election stuff hurts this moment.

00:53:17.000 Talk about immigration.

00:53:21.000 I think it is funny, though, that she has to keep saying it was not right.

00:53:23.000 There's never been anything like this happening to our country.

00:53:25.000 You built about 52 miles of new wall when you were in office, Mr. President.

00:53:30.000 It wasn't the complete wall.

00:53:31.000 One other thing that with immigration... No, but I have to respond to that.

00:53:34.000 With your immigration, it was only about 52 miles of new wall. 0.99

00:53:36.000 Okay, can I respond?

00:53:37.000 This is what she does.

00:53:40.000 I built hundreds of miles.

00:53:42.000 Some of the wall was up there and it would be laying on the ground, rusted, rotten steel, rusted, rotten wood, a little.

00:53:49.000 And what the radical left crazy Democrats did, if there's a piece of wood laying down, they considered that a wall.

00:53:55.000 I built 30 foot walls that go down seven feet into the ground.

00:53:59.000 If there was a little piece of wood sitting in the ground, they said, oh, he's not building a wall.

00:54:03.000 We already had a wall.

00:54:04.000 Because this is the game.

00:54:05.000 They're a party of disinformation.

00:54:07.000 It's not a game, Mr. President.

00:54:08.000 It's about 52 miles of new wall.

00:54:10.000 Are you kidding me?

00:54:11.000 Also, Caitlyn, this woman asked about the troops at the border.

00:54:15.000 Why are you not going back to that?

00:54:16.000 I didn't answer the question and she's not making me answer the question either.

00:54:19.000 That was up and rotting in the ground for 30 years.

00:54:23.000 Some of it was steel that you couldn't even see.

00:54:24.000 Mr. President, it was only about 52 miles of new wall.

00:54:26.000 But moving on, another immigration policy you had was the zero-tolerance immigration policy that separated families at the border.

00:54:32.000 If you are re-elected, are you ruling out institutions like that?

00:54:36.000 Well, when you have that policy, people don't come.

00:54:39.000 If a family hears that they're going to be separated, they love their family.

00:54:43.000 They don't come.

00:54:44.000 So I know it sounds harsh, but if you remember, remember they said I was building prisons for children?

00:54:51.000 It turned out that it was Obama that was building them.

00:54:53.000 Can you re-implement that if you're re-elected?

00:54:56.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:54:57.000 We have to save our country, alright?

00:54:58.000 So it sounds like that's a yes.

00:55:01.000 When you say to a family that if you come, we're going to break you up, they don't come.

00:55:06.000 And we can't afford to have any more.

00:55:08.000 Look at New York City.

00:55:09.000 Look what's happening.

00:55:10.000 They're living in Central Park in New York City.

00:55:13.000 The city is being swamped.

00:55:15.000 Los Angeles is being swamped.

00:55:18.000 Iowa is being swamped.

00:55:19.000 Our whole country is being destroyed.

00:55:21.000 Millions of people are coming into our country.

00:55:24.000 And you know what the number is going to be, in my opinion, by the end of the year?

00:55:27.000 Not the 4 million that you hear and the 3 million.

00:55:30.000 I think it's going to be 15 million people.

00:55:32.000 And in these people, they have no idea where they come from.

00:55:35.000 They come from 129 different countries so far.

00:55:37.000 120, not just the four that we talked about.

00:55:40.000 Just to put a button on that, it sounds like what you're saying is that you're not ruling out re-implementing that immigration policy.

00:55:45.000 I want to get to another voter, Kaitlin Placido is a student here at St.

00:55:48.000 Anselm College.

00:55:49.000 She's a Republican, this will be the first election that she has voted in.

00:55:52.000 What's your question for the President, Kaitlin?

00:55:54.000 Hello President Trump, thank you so much for coming.

00:55:57.000 The current administration has made it clear that we should continue to provide military equipment to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves.

00:56:05.000 Do you support this decision and how would you deal with the increasing threat posed by Vladimir Putin?

00:56:11.000 First of all, thank you very much.

00:56:13.000 It's really nice.

00:56:14.000 And it's an important question.

00:56:15.000 So important because we're giving away so much equipment.

00:56:18.000 We don't have ammunition for ourselves right now.

00:56:20.000 We don't have ammunition for ourselves.

00:56:22.000 We're giving away so much.

00:56:23.000 But here's the thing.

00:56:24.000 I have to say it to start off.

00:56:25.000 No longer matters.

00:56:27.000 If I were president, this would have never happened.

00:56:29.000 And even the Democrats admit that Putin knew it would have never happened.

00:56:34.000 And his pipeline would have never happened.

00:56:35.000 A lot of things would have never happened.

00:56:37.000 But This has never happened.

00:56:39.000 And all those dead people, both Russian and Ukrainian, they wouldn't be dead today.

00:56:45.000 And all those cities that are blown up and disintegrated right to the ground, that wouldn't have happened.

00:56:49.000 Okay.

00:56:50.000 Now, here's the problem.

00:56:52.000 We've given so far $171 billion.

00:56:56.000 They've given meaning they meaning European Union, which is approximately the same size altogether as our economy.

00:57:03.000 They've given about 20.

00:57:05.000 So we're at 170, let's say, and there are 20.

00:57:10.000 You don't have to know too much about history to realize or geography to realize that.

00:57:15.000 They're a little bit more affected than we are, okay?

00:57:18.000 So, they've got to put up a lot more money, because they're taking advantage of us like every other country did.

00:57:23.000 That's why I ended NAFTA and replaced it with the USMCA in Mexico.

00:57:27.000 But on this issue, Mr. President, I should know, I don't know any Democrats who have said they don't believe Putin would have been invaded if you were president, but her question is, would you continue to give Ukraine money and weapons if you're elected?

00:57:38.000 What's the answer?

00:57:39.000 So she remembers this girl's question, but not the other ones.

00:57:42.000 President Zelensky because as you know he backed me up with the with the phony impeachment impeachment hoax number one when he said The president didn't do anything wrong.

00:57:52.000 So I happen to like.

00:57:54.000 So I happen to like.

00:57:55.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:57:56.000 And it was I was totally exonerated, by the way, just a waste of time and money.

00:57:59.000 You were impeached.

00:58:00.000 Impeached does not mean convicted.

00:58:03.000 Caitlin Collins doesn't need to know the details. 0.98

00:58:06.000 I was impeached by a crazy woman named Nancy Pelosi. 0.99

00:58:11.000 Weapons and funding. 0.99

00:58:12.000 If you I would sit down.

00:58:14.000 Let me just put it this way.

00:58:17.000 If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day.

00:58:20.000 24 hours.

00:58:21.000 I agree.

00:58:23.000 How?

00:58:26.000 How would you do that?

00:58:28.000 They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths.

00:58:31.000 And within 24 hours, that war will be settled.

00:58:33.000 It'll be over.

00:58:34.000 It'll be absolutely over.

00:58:35.000 Do you want Ukraine to win this war?

00:58:38.000 I don't think in terms of winning and losing.

00:58:40.000 I think in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing all these people and break it.

00:58:44.000 Can I just follow up on that?

00:58:50.000 You said you don't think in terms of winning and losing.

00:58:53.000 Mr. President, can I just follow up on that because that's a really important statement that you just made there.

00:58:57.000 Can you say if you want Ukraine or Russia to win this war?

00:59:01.000 I want everybody to stop dying.

00:59:04.000 Yes!

00:59:05.000 Dying. 1.00

00:59:06.000 Russians and dying. 1.00

00:59:06.000 He's not making himself look good here. 1.00

00:59:10.000 And I'll have that done.

00:59:11.000 I'll have that done in 24 hours.

00:59:12.000 But what team?

00:59:13.000 What team are you on?

00:59:14.000 We need the power of the presidency to do it.

00:59:16.000 But you won't say that you want Ukraine to win?

00:59:17.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:59:18.000 You know what I'll say?

00:59:18.000 I'll say this.

00:59:19.000 Is she going to say win?

00:59:19.000 I want Europe to put up more money.

00:59:21.000 Because they're in for $20 billion.

00:59:23.000 We're in for $170 billion.

00:59:23.000 But that's not an answer about who should win the war.

00:59:25.000 And they should equalize.

00:59:26.000 They have plenty of money.

00:59:28.000 They should equalize.

00:59:29.000 I got with NATO.

00:59:31.000 I sat down, I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars under Obama and Bush and all of these other presidents.

00:59:39.000 That's why they're able to help them fight the war because of the money I got.

00:59:43.000 But I want Europe to put up more money because they're laughing at us. 1.00

00:59:48.000 They think we're a bunch of jerks. 0.99

00:59:50.000 We're spending $170 billion for faraway land and they're right next door to that land. 1.00

00:59:56.000 And they're in for 20.

00:59:58.000 I don't think so.

00:59:58.000 When it comes to what's happening there, when you were in office, you said that you respected President Putin.

01:00:03.000 Do you still respect him today?

01:00:05.000 He made a tremendous mistake.

01:00:08.000 He's a smart guy, you know.

01:00:09.000 I remember I said he was smart, she was smart.

01:00:12.000 He said President Xi of China.

01:00:14.000 Right?

01:00:15.000 He's smart.

01:00:16.000 Okay, 1.5 billion people.

01:00:18.000 He's the ruler of 1.5 billion people.

01:00:21.000 I said, yeah, he's a smart guy.

01:00:22.000 How dare he say he's smart?

01:00:24.000 Of course he's smart. 1.00

01:00:25.000 They want you to say he's a stupid person. 1.00

01:00:27.000 Okay, he's not a stupid person. 1.00

01:00:28.000 He's very smart. 0.99

01:00:29.000 He's very cunning.

01:00:30.000 And Putin made a bad mistake, in my opinion.

01:00:32.000 What was his mistake?

01:00:33.000 His mistake was going in.

01:00:35.000 He would have never gone in if I was president.

01:00:37.000 I agree.

01:00:37.000 Do you believe that he is a war criminal?

01:00:44.000 Do you believe that Putin is a war criminal?

01:00:47.000 He's responsible for the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians. 0.99

01:00:49.000 Well, I think this, I think it's something that should not be discussed now.

01:00:52.000 It should be discussed later, because right now we have to get a war.

01:00:55.000 If you say he's a war criminal, it's going to be a lot tougher to make a deal to get this stuff.

01:00:59.000 Because if he's going to be a war criminal where people are going to go and grab him and execute him, he's going to fight a lot harder than he's fighting, you know, under the other circumstance.

01:01:09.000 That's something to be discussed at a later date.

01:01:11.000 Isn't it important to call it what it is?

01:01:13.000 No. 1.00

01:01:13.000 Shut up, Caitlin. 1.00

01:01:13.000 Why is Putin on a town hall debate? 1.00

01:01:14.000 And I'm not talking about the money either.

01:01:16.000 I'm talking about all the lives that have been...

01:01:19.000 The number of people being killed in the war is far greater than you hear.

01:01:21.000 Can't we talk about domestic issues?

01:01:22.000 When they blow up the city and those buildings come pouring down and they say two people

01:01:26.000 were injured.

01:01:27.000 No, no.

01:01:28.000 Hundreds and thousands of people are being killed and we have to get that war settled.

01:01:32.000 We have more with former President Trump right after this.

01:01:34.000 We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with questions from voters right after that.

01:01:39.000 I think the Ukraine thing is a domestic issue because we were $170 billion in.

01:01:44.000 Sure.

01:01:45.000 So I like the fact that they went there.

01:01:47.000 I think he handled that really well.

01:01:49.000 Grand slam. 0.99

01:01:50.000 I think she was looking to get him to say something stupid and he stayed on point. 1.00

01:01:56.000 I think he hit it out of the park. 1.00

01:01:57.000 Grand slam.

01:01:57.000 Bases are loaded.

01:01:58.000 Knocked it out.

01:01:59.000 When she's like, do you want Ukraine to win?

01:02:01.000 Will you say it?

01:02:01.000 And he's like, I want everyone to stop dying.

01:02:04.000 He nailed it.

01:02:05.000 Exactly.

01:02:06.000 You can't get them.

01:02:06.000 They can't sound bite that because he's right.

01:02:09.000 And she looked horrible because she kept asking the same question after he answered it very succinctly.

01:02:15.000 She only does that when she has a sound bite that she's trying to get. 0.99

01:02:19.000 Do you think Putin's a war criminal?

01:02:21.000 And then Trump nailed it.

01:02:22.000 Look, if we call him a war criminal, how are we going to negotiate an end to the war?

01:02:25.000 He's going to say no.

01:02:26.000 We're going to wait on that.

01:02:28.000 In fact, the fact that she even brings it up on national television with as many viewers as watching is bad for trying to end the war.

01:02:33.000 But you know what?

01:02:33.000 They don't want the war to end.

01:02:35.000 I bet a guy in her ear said, say Putin's a war criminal.

01:02:39.000 Because we want it on TV.

01:02:41.000 We want Putin to think that if the war ends, he dies.

01:02:44.000 That way he never stops.

01:02:45.000 And Putin and Trump had a strong rapport when he was in office.

01:02:49.000 They want to try and make Trump an impossible choice if you want to end the war too.

01:02:54.000 They want Putin to be against him.

01:02:55.000 Let me, let me, uh, Mitchie Cool says, did y'all hear Collins call him Mr. President?

01:03:00.000 She hasn't this whole time.

01:03:01.000 Yeah.

01:03:02.000 Yeah.

01:03:03.000 She also wants to hurt, hurt him with conservatives because if he's on Team Ukraine, that hurts him with lots of conservatives.

01:03:13.000 Before it comes back, I want to just address the election thing.

01:03:17.000 So, as many people are pointing out, everybody wants to say that the election was rigged.

01:03:21.000 If you're talking about the Democrats changed rules so they could get universal mail-in voting, they could go to nursing homes, they could ballot chase, ballot harvest, and all of these things that were deemed legal by the courts, I agree.

01:03:32.000 I think it's shady.

01:03:33.000 I think we should have one day of voting.

01:03:35.000 This is why we should have reforms.

01:03:36.000 We should have a day of voting.

01:03:37.000 We should have voter ID.

01:03:38.000 We should have paper ballots. 0.96

01:03:39.000 I agree with all of that.

01:03:40.000 But when so if you're saying that's what you mean by rigged, I get it.

01:03:43.000 And you had that article in Time magazine.

01:03:45.000 But what we're what I'm trying to make sure we're not talking about is the idea that like China was sending fake ballots, that the machines were printing fake things or anything like that.

01:03:53.000 I think the Democrats outplayed the Republicans heavily exploiting COVID.

01:03:58.000 And that's what got Biden these votes.

01:04:00.000 And I've seen people do it.

01:04:01.000 When Trump starts drifting into that, which people don't understand, and he's like, ah, it's all rigged, ah, it's all... He's talking about the past.

01:04:09.000 He's not talking about what you can expect from him.

01:04:11.000 He's not telling the people what he's going to give you if you vote for him.

01:04:14.000 And I think that's what they want to get out of him.

01:04:15.000 They want to push him in that direction because it hurts him in the polls.

01:04:19.000 Yeah.

01:04:19.000 They spent the first 25 minutes really just talking about his character.

01:04:23.000 It wasn't anything other... anything that really affects the people other than his character.

01:04:29.000 And they spent the first 25 minutes on that.

01:04:31.000 They just ran a commercial for the town hall that's airing right now.

01:04:34.000 While we were watching it.

01:04:35.000 Just in case you were wondering what's going on.

01:04:37.000 I thought it was back.

01:04:38.000 I was like, oh, is it back?

01:04:38.000 No, it's a commercial for an hour ago.

01:04:40.000 It might be just online only, though.

01:04:42.000 I bet on TV they're not doing it.

01:04:44.000 No, it's on TV.

01:04:45.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 So I just want to say, man, When Donald Trump came out and said, we are going to start ballot harvesting and ballot chasing, that gave me hope.

01:04:53.000 Because it's like, ah, he understands what they did.

01:04:55.000 They wrote an article explaining what they did.

01:04:58.000 People went to nursing homes, and this is all legal. 1.00

01:05:00.000 This is legally done.

01:05:01.000 And they said, fill out your ballot, do this, give it to me, sign me up as your caretaker, I'll drop it off for you.

01:05:07.000 And there was this guy, I can't remember which state it was, it might have been Pennsylvania, where he was like, it's legal!

01:05:11.000 You're allowed to do it.

01:05:12.000 You are allowed to go to nursing homes.

01:05:13.000 Republicans just did not do it.

01:05:15.000 Democrats out ground game them.

01:05:17.000 I think they're about to come back on here.

01:05:20.000 Well, I don't know.

01:05:21.000 I mean, I think that's been a true of the Democratic Party for some time.

01:05:24.000 They are good at working on the ground to get what they want.

01:05:27.000 I think what bothers me about this whole thing is that the mainstream media opinion writers already have submitted their pieces talking about how great Caitlyn is doing tonight.

01:05:35.000 They will be out by midnight.

01:05:36.000 Here we go.

01:05:37.000 We're back.

01:05:40.000 Welcome back to CNN's Republican Presidential Town Hall with former President Trump.

01:05:43.000 President Trump, we have a lot more voters questions I should note in here in New Hampshire to get to, but I also want to talk about some of the other investigations that you're facing.

01:05:51.000 We talked about others at the top, but one of those is the Special Counsel's investigation into classified documents that were found at Mar-a-Lago.

01:05:58.000 Why did you take those documents with you when you left the White House?

01:06:00.000 I had every right to under the Presidential Records Act.

01:06:03.000 You have the Presidential Records Act.

01:06:04.000 I was there, and I took what I took, and it gets declassified.

01:06:09.000 Biden, on the other hand, he has 1,850 boxes.

01:06:12.000 He had boxes sent to Chinatown, Chinatown, where they don't speak even English in that Chinatown we're talking about. 0.98

01:06:19.000 I got to stop you right there.

01:06:20.000 No, you don't. 1.00

01:06:21.000 Shut up. 0.99

01:06:22.000 Just so you understand, I had every right to do it. 0.99

01:06:24.000 I didn't make a secret of it.

01:06:26.000 You know, the boxes were stationed outside of the White House.

01:06:28.000 People were taking pictures of the GSA and the various people.

01:06:31.000 I've got to stop you right there, though, because the Presidential Records Act, which is not well known to a lot of people, I read it.

01:06:36.000 It does not say that you can take documents with you.

01:06:38.000 It says actually that they are the property of the federal government.

01:06:40.000 It says you talk, you negotiate, you make a deal.

01:06:42.000 It's not criminal, by the way.

01:06:43.000 It does not say that you can negotiate.

01:06:44.000 The Presidential Records Act is not criminal.

01:06:47.000 And, uh, just so you know... It's not that you can negotiate to take the documents with you.

01:06:51.000 Can I tell you?

01:06:52.000 Just so you understand, the Presidential Records Act is not criminal.

01:06:56.000 I took the documents.

01:06:57.000 I'm allowed to.

01:06:57.000 You know who else took them?

01:06:59.000 Obama took them.

01:07:00.000 Nixon took them.

01:07:01.000 Obama did not take documents.

01:07:02.000 Yes, he did.

01:07:03.000 Obama did take documents.

01:07:04.000 Hillary took the furniture.

01:07:07.000 The National Archives says that President Obama did not take documents.

01:07:10.000 Even Mike Pence had some documents and he's a very honorable guy.

01:07:13.000 You referenced Pence, you referenced Biden.

01:07:14.000 But you know who took them more than anybody is Joe Biden.

01:07:16.000 He has 1,800 boxes.

01:07:17.000 And nobody even knows where they are.

01:07:18.000 Obama did take records.

01:07:19.000 They were brought somewhere and the media argued it was totally fine and legal the way

01:07:20.000 he did it.

01:07:21.000 I think it's important, Mr. President, to actually set the records straight here.

01:07:22.000 They're in Chicago, aren't they?

01:07:23.000 Something like that, yeah.

01:07:24.000 They took documents, including Vice President Pence.

01:07:35.000 When they realized they had documents, they turned them back over.

01:07:37.000 The difference is that you waited to turn yours over and it was a year and a half effort

01:07:41.000 that included a subpoena with those documents.

01:07:44.000 One question about what happened when you had those documents.

01:07:45.000 It included a raid on my house.

01:07:47.000 That's what it included.

01:07:48.000 They didn't raid Biden's house.

01:07:49.000 You'd gotten a subpoena and they had not been turned over yet.

01:07:52.000 They didn't raid Biden's house.

01:07:53.000 You know what happened?

01:07:54.000 They put him in the house.

01:07:55.000 That's the one with the Corvette, where the documents were laying all over the floor.

01:07:58.000 That was funny.

01:07:59.000 You can see them in the garage.

01:08:02.000 I have secret service.

01:08:03.000 And they're phenomenal.

01:08:04.000 I have secret service.

01:08:05.000 He didn't have secret service.

01:08:06.000 The other thing, the vice president cannot declassify.

01:08:10.000 He didn't have the right to declassify.

01:08:11.000 He has documents from when he was a senator.

01:08:14.000 And even Democrat senators say, I can't believe it.

01:08:17.000 No, I went by the Presidential Records Act.

01:08:20.000 That's not what the Presidential Records Act says.

01:08:21.000 And we were negotiating with NARA.

01:08:22.000 That's not what it says, Mr. President.

01:08:23.000 And NARA has red flags.

01:08:24.000 Mr. President.

01:08:25.000 It's called the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights because they

01:08:29.000 consider them dangerous documents.

01:08:30.000 That's not what it says, and I should note that there is a special counsel investigating

01:08:35.000 your document situation, also President Biden's document situation.

01:08:39.000 When it comes to your documents, did you ever show those classified documents to anyone?

01:08:43.000 Not really.

01:08:44.000 I would have the right to.

01:08:45.000 By the way, they were declassified after... What do you mean, not really?

01:08:48.000 Not that I can think of.

01:08:49.000 Let me just tell you, I have the absolute right to do whatever I want with them.

01:08:53.000 I have the right.

01:08:54.000 I was negotiating with NARA.

01:08:56.000 Do you know what NARA is?

01:08:57.000 The National Archives.

01:08:58.000 Extremely, extremely left group of people.

01:09:01.000 Extremely left.

01:09:02.000 And I was negotiating with them.

01:09:03.000 All of a sudden they raided my house.

01:09:05.000 They didn't raid the house of Joe Biden.

01:09:08.000 They didn't raid Obama.

01:09:10.000 Why are they standing?

01:09:10.000 Joe Biden didn't ignore a subpoena to get those documents back like you did.

01:09:13.000 And so that's the question.

01:09:15.000 Joe Biden took $1,850.

01:09:16.000 Is she going to punch him?

01:09:17.000 No.

01:09:17.000 Is Caitlyn going to punch him?

01:09:18.000 It's body language, I'm sure.

01:09:19.000 Wait, wait, how tall is she? 1.00

01:09:21.000 Shorter than he is, for sure.

01:09:22.000 Are you ready?

01:09:22.000 Can I talk?

01:09:22.000 Yeah, what's the answer?

01:09:28.000 Can I do you mind?

01:09:29.000 I would like for you to answer the question.

01:09:30.000 Okay, it's very simple to answer.

01:09:31.000 That's why I asked it.

01:09:32.000 It's very simple. 1.00

01:09:33.000 You're a nasty person, I'll tell you that. 1.00

01:09:35.000 Sounds good. 1.00

01:09:37.000 Say she's a nasty person? 1.00

01:09:39.000 Very simple.

01:09:40.000 Why you held on to the documents?

01:09:41.000 I was negotiating and we were talking to NARA.

01:09:44.000 That's Washington.

01:09:45.000 To bring whatever they want.

01:09:46.000 They can have whatever they want.

01:09:48.000 When we left Washington, we had the boxes lined up on the sidewalk outside for everybody.

01:09:54.000 People are taking pictures of them.

01:09:55.000 Everybody knew we were taking those boxes.

01:09:57.000 And the GSA, Government Service, the GSA was the one taking them.

01:10:01.000 They brought them down to Mar-a-Lago.

01:10:03.000 We were negotiating with NARA.

01:10:04.000 All of a sudden, they raid our house.

01:10:07.000 When Biden had his documents, he won't give back the 1,850 boxes.

01:10:12.000 And you're going to find some real gems in there.

01:10:14.000 But it was Biden who alerted them that he had the documents.

01:10:17.000 The National Archives reached out to you to get your documents back.

01:10:20.000 Why is she arguing with him?

01:10:21.000 Why are we even talking about this?

01:10:22.000 I don't understand why this is even a topic.

01:10:25.000 Also, she keeps cutting him off and saying, we've got to take questions from the audience.

01:10:29.000 She's not here to moderate or move this along.

01:10:31.000 She's here to make her own point.

01:10:32.000 They gave her a couple things and said, make sure you get him to say something incriminating.

01:10:35.000 I gave her a couple things and said, make sure you get him to say something incriminating.

01:10:41.000 And that's what the presidential record act says, because Richard Nixon, surprisingly, had problems.

01:10:48.000 And he had a lot of problems dealing with NARA.

01:10:50.000 And they ended up passing legislation called the Presidential Records Act just for this kind of a thing.

01:10:56.000 We were dealing with them.

01:10:57.000 We were talking to them.

01:11:01.000 We would have done it, but all of a sudden they raided the house.

01:11:03.000 Now, why hasn't the FBI raided Biden?

01:11:07.000 But I just explained to you why.

01:11:09.000 It's because they alerted the government that they had those documents and had them come and get the documents.

01:11:14.000 My question for you, though, when it comes to documents, do you still have any classified charges in your possession?

01:11:20.000 Are you ready?

01:11:21.000 Do you?

01:11:22.000 No, no, I don't have anything.

01:11:23.000 I have no classified documents.

01:11:26.000 And by the way, they become automatically declassified when I took them.

01:11:30.000 But why?

01:11:30.000 No, you have to declassify them.

01:11:31.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:11:32.000 No, you don't.

01:11:32.000 Why is it that Biden had nine boxes in China?

01:11:35.000 He's lying all the time.

01:11:36.000 Tim, Tim, she knows what she's talking about.

01:11:39.000 There's no process by which the president, he doesn't have to declassify anything.

01:11:44.000 She is a legal scholar.

01:11:45.000 Why don't they put this guy Jackson Major in journalism at the University of Alabama?

01:11:49.000 Why don't they put him in charge of that?

01:11:51.000 I need to stop you right there because there's no evidence of what you just said there.

01:11:54.000 What you're referring to is an office that he had after leaving the vice presidency.

01:12:00.000 He had a temporary office.

01:12:01.000 But I want to ask you about another investigation.

01:12:02.000 You've got a new wrong gif for the internet.

01:12:04.000 I do know the subject.

01:12:05.000 He had one at the University of Pennsylvania, but he also had nine boxes of Chinatown. 0.89

01:12:10.000 Which is the one that's happening in Georgia, where they are investigating there your efforts

01:12:14.000 to overturn the election results in the state of Georgia.

01:12:17.000 Let me finish my question.

01:12:19.000 At the center of that is that call that you had with the Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger.

01:12:26.000 Given the fact that there are indictments expected to come in that case this summer, is that a call you would make again today?

01:12:33.000 Yeah, I called questioning the election.

01:12:35.000 I thought it was a rigged election.

01:12:36.000 I thought I'd had a lot of problems.

01:12:38.000 I had every... I guess he's Secretary of State.

01:12:41.000 I called.

01:12:42.000 Listen to this.

01:12:43.000 There are like seven lawyers on the call, many of them from there.

01:12:46.000 We're having a call.

01:12:46.000 We're having a normal call.

01:12:48.000 Nobody said, oh, gee, he shouldn't have said that.

01:12:51.000 If this call was bad, I questioned the election.

01:12:53.000 If this call was bad... You asked him to find you clothes.

01:12:55.000 I didn't ask him to find anything.

01:12:57.000 Let me just say... We've heard the audio tape, Mr. President.

01:12:59.000 There's an audio of you asking him to... Factual but not truthful.

01:13:01.000 You owe me votes because the election was rigged.

01:13:04.000 That election was rigged.

01:13:06.000 And if this call was bad, why didn't him and his lawyers hang up?

01:13:10.000 How dare you say that?

01:13:12.000 This was a...

01:13:13.000 Well, they were clearly concerned enough they recorded the call, and I should note that of course— This was a call that was made to question the results of election.

01:13:22.000 And we have—and when we can't make a call to question election results, then this country ought to just forget about it.

01:13:29.000 You weren't just questioning the election results.

01:13:31.000 You were asking me to find you votes.

01:13:33.000 I disagree with Trump.

01:13:34.000 But you have to be able to call and have a rigged agreement.

01:13:37.000 You shouldn't have been answering the question at all.

01:13:39.000 That was probably the best way.

01:13:40.000 Good.

01:13:40.000 Thank you, Mr. Trump.

01:13:40.000 Thank you very much.

01:13:41.000 I'm 26.

01:13:41.000 I'm a veteran.

01:13:41.000 in Georgia.

01:13:42.000 Jordan Sullivan is an unclared voter from Hollis.

01:13:43.000 He shouldn't have been answering the question at all.

01:13:46.000 He voted for you in 2020.

01:13:47.000 That was probably the best way.

01:13:48.000 Good.

01:13:49.000 Jordan, what is your question for President Trump tonight?

01:13:50.000 Thank you, Mr. Trump.

01:13:51.000 Thank you very much.

01:13:52.000 I'm 26.

01:13:53.000 I'm a veteran.

01:13:54.000 I help manage a private aviation company.

01:13:56.000 You want a job?

01:13:58.000 I'd love one, yeah.

01:13:59.000 I'm looking for somebody very good.

01:14:02.000 I'm not for mandates or government interference in private business, but I've seen Republicans going after us, like DeSantis, after Disney.

01:14:09.000 Right.

01:14:09.000 What would you do as president to protect us from government interference?

01:14:12.000 Well, I'm the one that really wants to protect you.

01:14:15.000 All of these fake investigations of me are about election interference.

01:14:19.000 They think because I'm leading Biden by 11 points, seven points, nine points, I'm leading to sanctimonious by a lot, by 40 points or 45 points.

01:14:29.000 I think you ought to just relax and take it easy and think about the future, because right now his future is not looking so good.

01:14:35.000 I will tell you this.

01:14:36.000 We are really putting it to Biden, but he's putting it to himself because the economy stinks, inflation is horrible, and the border is a disaster.

01:14:45.000 And by the way, the way he got out of Afghanistan was the single most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. 0.97

01:14:56.000 While we are not a fan of that, this is a fundamental question for you.

01:15:02.000 You are running in the 2024 race.

01:15:04.000 If you are the Republican nominee and you are in that 2024 race, will you commit tonight

01:15:08.000 to accepting the results of the 2024 election?

01:15:10.000 Yeah, if I think it's an honest election, absolutely.

01:15:12.000 I would.

01:15:13.000 Will you be able to answer the election regardless of the outcome?

01:15:17.000 I answered again.

01:15:18.000 If I think it's an honest election, I would be honored to.

01:15:22.000 And right now we are so far ahead of both Democrat and Republican.

01:15:28.000 If I don't win, this country is going to be in big trouble.

01:15:30.000 It's so sad to see what's happening.

01:15:32.000 But no commitment there on accepting the results, regardless of the outcome.

01:15:36.000 If it's an honest election, correct.

01:15:38.000 OK, so not committing to accepting the 2020 election results, but acknowledging what happened in 2020.

01:15:42.000 President Trump, I want to thank you for coming here tonight.

01:15:46.000 This is an important conversation with voters to hear and to have.

01:15:49.000 Thank you to our audience and to our host, St.

01:15:51.000 Anselm College.

01:15:52.000 CNN's coverage continues with Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper.

01:15:56.000 It certainly does not continue with us.

01:15:57.000 I don't want to hear what those people have to say.

01:16:00.000 Jake Tapper!

01:16:00.000 He's a cool guy.

01:16:02.000 Jake Tapper's so awesome.

01:16:03.000 The reason why she keeps going back to the election fraud stuff is because it polls very poorly with independent voters.

01:16:11.000 That's where they need to strike.

01:16:12.000 Donald Trump succeeded in 2016 by switching 9 million moderate-leaning Democrats to the Republican Party.

01:16:19.000 Every time they get Trump to say, it's rigged, it's rigged, it's rigged, he is losing votes.

01:16:24.000 And that's why they're doing it.

01:16:26.000 That's why in the beginning of the show, they went after him over and over and over again.

01:16:30.000 And it is a large reason why I'm telling people, and I beg people, please stop.

01:16:34.000 Like, whatever it is you think, The Democrats had a tremendous ground game, okay?

01:16:40.000 They were able to find the votes, and you've got to counter it, Scott Pressler style.

01:16:45.000 And you need to back off from it if you want to win the moderates over in this.

01:16:49.000 Diehard Trump supporters are falling into this trap, and CNN just showed you exactly how they do it.

01:16:56.000 They know that Trump's biggest fans and biggest supporters are going to reject any notion That the election was anything.

01:17:04.000 They know that if they come out and say it wasn't fraud, Trump supporters are going to come out and say, yes, it was.

01:17:09.000 And they're going to get him to say it over and over and over again to make as many soundbites as possible.

01:17:13.000 And I would not be surprised if the next time they have a show, they're going to be like, how many times did Trump say rigged?

01:17:18.000 And they're going to play it on repeat and they're going to put it in the face of as many independents as possible.

01:17:24.000 Instead of showing Trump saying things like, we need people to stop dying, which was a grand slam.

01:17:28.000 That's why I'm like, guys, Talk about the future.

01:17:32.000 Stop talking about the past.

01:17:34.000 Yeah, right.

01:17:35.000 Do you think that when it comes time for the Republican primary, the other Republicans will continue to bring this up because they know it hurts Trump?

01:17:41.000 Absolutely.

01:17:42.000 Yeah.

01:17:43.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Ron DeSantis comes out and says, you know, Democrats, they got universal mail-in voting.

01:17:50.000 They were changing voting laws in their states.

01:17:52.000 In some instances, like Pennsylvania, the Republicans were involved that things like voter in the park.

01:17:56.000 And there are videos where state reps and judges are like, you are allowed to ballot harvest in this state.

01:18:01.000 I think there's only a handful of states that actually explicitly ban it.

01:18:05.000 It's illegal in many forms in many states, usually with some restrictions, where like, you can only carry three at a time.

01:18:11.000 And then you'll see videos like James O'Keefe had.

01:18:14.000 Bill Barr said there was some fraud.

01:18:15.000 She said there was none.

01:18:16.000 She's wrong.

01:18:17.000 Bill Barr said there was some, but not nearly enough.

01:18:19.000 There's always a little bit.

01:18:20.000 There were a bunch of federal prosecutions over voter fraud, sure.

01:18:23.000 But I don't think it was in the tens of millions are significant enough to have as big of an impact as people want.

01:18:27.000 I think what people are thinking of when they say rigged is that Democrats changed the rules Anyway, I don't even want to get wrapped up in this.

01:18:35.000 They changed the rules, but sometimes they didn't abide by the rules at all.

01:18:39.000 Like in Pennsylvania, they did things that were actually illegal for them to do, and they didn't have the authority to do it.

01:18:45.000 Changing the laws on mail-in voting.

01:18:47.000 So here's the issue.

01:18:53.000 The lower court said, you can't change this law without going to a newspaper and getting a constitutional amendment.

01:18:57.000 And then everyone was like, wow, the lower courts are agreeing with the Republicans.

01:19:00.000 The problem is the Republicans actually worked with the Democrats to pass that law.

01:19:04.000 So when it went to the Supreme Court, they were like, no, this was done by both parties.

01:19:08.000 And now one party is coming out after the fact.

01:19:10.000 So I think it's all partisan.

01:19:12.000 I think when you look at what's going on in New York, you can see it's pure tribalism.

01:19:16.000 But I think you can just see very obviously why CNN kept asking that question.

01:19:22.000 They want the soundbite because it hurts Republicans.

01:19:25.000 And when I hear him say that over and over again, and he won't let it go, and they know they can get him on it, I'm like, I see DeSantis going up.

01:19:32.000 And I like Trump's answer on the war.

01:19:34.000 I think it's important.

01:19:35.000 But let's do this.

01:19:37.000 We're going to jump to this story.

01:19:38.000 Maybe the last story before we go to Super Chats.

01:19:42.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we made the news.

01:19:44.000 In Trump's trial, a secret fight over a juror's right-wing news source.

01:19:49.000 I love this!

01:19:51.000 Because this proves, to all of you, it's a cult.

01:19:55.000 Check it out.

01:19:56.000 They say, E. Jean Carroll's lawyers tried to exclude the man who listened to podcasts by the provocateur Tim Pool.

01:20:04.000 He remained on the jury that found the ex-president liable.

01:20:07.000 Provocateur is a great word.

01:20:08.000 Provocateur.

01:20:09.000 I like that.

01:20:09.000 What do I do?

01:20:10.000 They call Milo Yiannopoulos a provocateur.

01:20:12.000 Well, he goes out, he gives speeches.

01:20:14.000 Do I ever leave this building?

01:20:16.000 Do I make phone calls to anybody?

01:20:18.000 Do I contact members of Congress?

01:20:20.000 Or do I just sit here and have conversations with people?

01:20:23.000 The beanie is very provocative.

01:20:25.000 It is.

01:20:25.000 I have to say.

01:20:26.000 And evocative.

01:20:27.000 Both of those.

01:20:28.000 Both evocatives.

01:20:29.000 Take a look at this.

01:20:30.000 The juror was a 31-year-old man who said he lived in the Bronx for all his life.

01:20:34.000 During jury selection, he said that he tended to avoid news but listened to independent podcasts every now and then, and listed one example.

01:20:42.000 The original transcript inaccurately captured the podcast's title as Temple.

01:20:48.000 But lawyers for Ms. 1.00

01:20:49.000 Carroll, the writer who filed the lawsuit accusing Mr. Trump of rape, later learned through news reports that the anonymous juror identified only as Juror 77 had actually said he listens to Tim Pool.

01:21:01.000 Here's the best part.

01:21:02.000 You guys ready for this?

01:21:04.000 Mr. Pool's YouTube channel includes dozens of recordings that push hard-right views.

01:21:08.000 His podcast, which has been criticized as a vector for conspiracy theories, is called The Culture War.

01:21:15.000 Well, hold on there a minute!

01:21:16.000 The Culture War is a new show that hasn't been accused of anything because it's never been in the news.

01:21:21.000 It's only been around for about two months.

01:21:23.000 Eleven episodes.

01:21:24.000 That's fake news.

01:21:25.000 And I wonder if that's actually defamatory in that you can argue things about TimCast's IRL, the show y'all are watching now, because it's been around for years and has been in the news several times.

01:21:36.000 But The Culture War hasn't been.

01:21:38.000 No.

01:21:38.000 Not at all.

01:21:39.000 The Culture War podcast hasn't been covered by anyone, and I'm surprised they even found it.

01:21:44.000 You know what they did? They searched for Tim Pool Podcast and found the Culture War Podcast with Tim Pool,

01:21:49.000 which is a new show which has very little viewership relative to this show or even TimCast News.

01:21:54.000 It's a vector. A vector. A vector.

01:21:57.000 That's why they said dozens of recordings.

01:21:59.000 Like, IRL has a bit more than dozens.

01:22:02.000 Yeah, I think IRL has like 2,000 or something like that.

01:22:05.000 And then The Culture War has like 25.

01:22:08.000 And the morning videos that you do.

01:22:10.000 I mean, you put out a dozen morning videos.

01:22:11.000 Five videos a day.

01:22:12.000 Right.

01:22:13.000 On TimCast News.

01:22:14.000 And there's like 3,000 videos.

01:22:16.000 Also, they don't even mention that you worked for Vice.

01:22:18.000 You're such a lefty on so many other issues.

01:22:20.000 They're like, this far right guy.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, you would imagine New York Times would do a little bit more research and have figured that out.

01:22:28.000 I know you wouldn't.

01:22:30.000 Check this out.

01:22:30.000 It says, during the confidential questioning, Juror 77 said that Mr. Poole, quote, is like middle, adding that the podcaster gets different political figures or just celebrities like that on the left, on the right.

01:22:42.000 Juror 77 also described the podcast as balanced.

01:22:44.000 Do you know why?

01:22:45.000 He watched this show, probably.

01:22:47.000 Because we had, like, a run-of-the-mill celebrity on the show one time.

01:22:49.000 Right.

01:22:50.000 This is a guy who apparently said that he's only seen a few episodes, and it may be because we've had musicians, we've had people like Ethan Supley.

01:22:58.000 Supley on the show.

01:22:59.000 An actor.

01:22:59.000 And we just talked about, you know, moderate political issues.

01:23:02.000 We have had people who are totally apolitical who struggle to even talk.

01:23:05.000 We've had scientists, doctors.

01:23:08.000 But they don't know anything about it.

01:23:09.000 This is the first show that I've ever watched of yours.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, the one you're on.

01:23:14.000 Yeah, the one I'm on.

01:23:14.000 There you go.

01:23:15.000 Welcome.

01:23:16.000 He said that he'd been doing doubles at work and listened to Mr. Poole's show three or four times in the past six months.

01:23:23.000 Said he never had heard of Miss Carol and was confident he could be fair to both sides.

01:23:27.000 Here's a guy who actually said Trump is liable for sexual abuse, not rape, after almost 30 years.

01:23:37.000 That's amazing.

01:23:38.000 And they're like, that's a fan of Tim Pool who should be removed from the jury.

01:23:42.000 Here's what they said, look at this.

01:23:43.000 A lawyer for Ms. 0.94

01:23:44.000 Carroll said that the juror appeared to get his news from a single, really virulently extremist podcast.

01:23:50.000 It's amazing, but I can sit here being like, Trump is wrong about the fraud narrative, and I'm pro-choice, and they're like, he's an extremist.

01:23:58.000 But you see what they're trying to do.

01:24:00.000 Two things.

01:24:01.000 They want to create a bifurcation between me and regular people because they don't want regular people to hear honest commentary from honest people.

01:24:09.000 And, well, I mean, I'll leave it at that.

01:24:12.000 That's basically it.

01:24:13.000 To defame and to push people away.

01:24:16.000 So those are the two things, I guess.

01:24:17.000 So he wasn't dismissed?

01:24:19.000 No.

01:24:20.000 And then he actually sided with them.

01:24:22.000 Right.

01:24:23.000 And what's the story here, then?

01:24:26.000 I don't know.

01:24:26.000 I'm really kind of curious why this is actually a story.

01:24:30.000 Why is it that they ran that story about the Allen, Texas shooter who posted four clips of me, and then in the same week, they're like, a right-wing extremist news source.

01:24:41.000 There's no news here.

01:24:42.000 The guy said he listened to the show three or four times, and that was the end of it.

01:24:45.000 They didn't dismiss him, and then he sided with them.

01:24:47.000 Why is the New York Times, Politico, the Daily Beast, whoever else, they're all writing this up?

01:24:52.000 Because they're afraid of you.

01:24:53.000 I mean, I think it's because you take their audience and also you actually do have a lot of moderate views, unlike both mainstream Fox News and all the mainstream left-wing publications.

01:25:04.000 Like, that's just how it is.

01:25:05.000 That's gotta be it.

01:25:06.000 Because there's no other reason to say, oh, did you know there was a juror that wasn't dismissed but he admitted that he watched this show four times?

01:25:14.000 Four times! 0.60

01:25:15.000 People who weren't aware of you or IRL already have heard your name probably because of the Alan Texas stuff.

01:25:21.000 So New York Times is jumping on this bandwagon that I think they often look to, I mean, because it's not the first time you've trended.

01:25:27.000 I think people want this show to be something more extreme so they can shun it.

01:25:32.000 They want you to have, every time they Google your name, they want far-right extremist, terrible person to come up.

01:25:38.000 But it doesn't work?

01:25:38.000 It doesn't work because you do this show every night and prove them wrong.

01:25:42.000 They definitely turn Bandcamp off to you.

01:25:44.000 Well, Bandcamp spreading defamation or something like that, but... There's a cult.

01:25:49.000 They're extremists.

01:25:51.000 And the people who watch this show probably already agree with me when we say these people are in a cult.

01:25:55.000 Because you can have a leftist, like Lance from the Serfs on this show, overtly say he's pro-abortion at any time, for any period, for any reason.

01:26:04.000 Matt Binder, a leftist, say the exact same thing.

01:26:07.000 Sitting next to Seamus Coghlan, a Catholic conservative pro-lifer who wants abortion banned outright, and me, saying, well, I think there should be some restrictions, but maybe only after viability, which is the middle, and the person on the left says, you're all far right.

01:26:22.000 Like, if my opinion, and, you know, is the average opinion based on polling, Then what are they talking about?

01:26:31.000 They're just lying.

01:26:32.000 That's what they do.

01:26:33.000 They lie.

01:26:34.000 And I'm partly grateful because this makes it easy to prove they're lying.

01:26:40.000 That's it.

01:26:42.000 Is there anybody else that has as many diverse people on their podcast as you do?

01:26:49.000 I mean, I mean, there's very few.

01:26:51.000 Well, I think I think Patrick David has way more people across.

01:26:56.000 Because what they really want to do is silence everybody, not just you, but silence everybody that you would ever have on and make sure they can put those people into a box.

01:27:06.000 Right.

01:27:06.000 And because, you know, CNN's never going to have those people on.

01:27:10.000 Fox News won't have them on either.

01:27:11.000 Fox News won't have people on who they're afraid of are associated with people, even if that person has never done it themselves.

01:27:16.000 Two layers deep.

01:27:17.000 They'll be like, yeah, you went to this one party with this guy, you know, like whatever.

01:27:23.000 Politico wrote up an even bigger story saying there was inferred bias or whatever.

01:27:28.000 Tim Pool, a far-right pro-Trump commentator who has aligned himself with figures like Steve Bannon.

01:27:33.000 What does that even mean, aligned himself with people like Steve Bannon?

01:27:36.000 It means you talked to him one time and you didn't scream in his face.

01:27:41.000 On the show, the members-only show, we argued about the fraud narrative and I told him to his face he was wrong.

01:27:48.000 And I said Trump was anti-elected.

01:27:52.000 People voted against him and we went in this long thing and he was like, well, that's an interesting point.

01:27:56.000 And I think he's been on the show twice?

01:28:00.000 What is this?

01:28:01.000 You're not allowed to platform it at all.

01:28:02.000 You're not allowed to talk to people.

01:28:04.000 No, no talking to other people.

01:28:05.000 It's the association game.

01:28:07.000 Associating with someone that most people dislike.

01:28:10.000 So make those associations and we can then create a box around these people who make commentary with some sense.

01:28:20.000 Exactly.

01:28:21.000 When I think of you, the first thing I think of is not, he's pro-Trump.

01:28:25.000 Most people don't.

01:28:29.000 I think it's fair if somebody says that they think of me as pro-Trump, because all I did was make memes about Trump.

01:28:35.000 But for them to call you the pro-Trump extremist is just hilarious.

01:28:42.000 It doesn't fit at all.

01:28:43.000 They're debunking themselves, especially when we have Luke Rudkowski on this show for seven months at a time, and people say he has Trump derangement syndrome.

01:28:51.000 Or Ian Crosland, who says some of the craziest leftist stuff half the time, and then rolls 20s the other half.

01:29:01.000 You know, look, for legal reasons, I'll say this is besmirching my good name, and I am concerned about reputational damage, which we'll be pursuing.

01:29:11.000 But part of me is like, okay, dude, make me more famous.

01:29:13.000 My name's all over the press now, and people are wondering what this is all about.

01:29:17.000 I love the New York Times writing about the culture war.

01:29:19.000 Great, we need the press.

01:29:20.000 It's because you weren't going to get in there if it wasn't bad press, which all press is good press.

01:29:25.000 I mean, I don't even know if it's even bad press.

01:29:27.000 We'll see.

01:29:27.000 I don't know.

01:29:29.000 And they always tell you, like, you get into a car accident, don't say you're fine because you don't actually know what injuries you might have.

01:29:36.000 And there's so many stories where someone gets like T-boned and they're like, well, I feel OK. 0.98

01:29:39.000 I think we're good.

01:29:40.000 And then a year later, like actually in that accident, you chip the bone and now you need like a $10,000 surgery or $100,000 surgery.

01:29:46.000 So it's like, you know, we'll see.

01:29:47.000 We'll see.

01:29:48.000 Maybe, you know.

01:29:50.000 But we sponsor ourselves.

01:29:51.000 We're building our own companies.

01:29:53.000 We are member-supported.

01:29:55.000 I'm not worried about companies dropping us in terms of sponsorships.

01:29:58.000 I'm not worried about it at all.

01:29:59.000 And now with Twitter, Rumble, competing with YouTube, I'm not worried about YouTube either.

01:30:04.000 There's nothing they can do.

01:30:05.000 They've lost.

01:30:07.000 The things they've said, like when Keith Olbermann's tweeting at me, and like this Alan Texas thing comes up, I'm like, literally don't care what these people think at all.

01:30:13.000 There is no concern I have.

01:30:15.000 None.

01:30:16.000 We have built infrastructure.

01:30:18.000 We are building infrastructure.

01:30:20.000 Rumble is building infrastructure.

01:30:21.000 Elon Musk is building infrastructure.

01:30:23.000 What do we have to be worried about at this point? 1.00

01:30:25.000 Say whatever stupid garbage fine, we'll sue you if it's defamatory, and you'll lose. 1.00

01:30:31.000 And it has no impact. 1.00

01:30:32.000 Did Keith come out of retirement to attack you?

01:30:34.000 He retired?

01:30:37.000 He's retired like four times from Twitter.

01:30:41.000 He retires a lot, I guess.

01:30:43.000 Let's do one more story.

01:30:46.000 Let's, uh, where are we at?

01:30:48.000 Here we go.

01:30:48.000 This one's big, ladies and gentlemen.

01:30:50.000 Bud Light's hangover from hell.

01:30:52.000 Sales figures for America's once-favorite beer reveal how every region in the U.S.

01:30:57.000 has turned its back since the Dylan Mulvaney tie-up.

01:30:59.000 Check this out.

01:31:01.000 In every region, Bud Light sales are plunging.

01:31:05.000 So in the East-North-Central, is that what they called it?

01:31:08.000 East-North-Central, which is like Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and Wisconsin, Michigan, 23.5%.

01:31:12.000 In the East-South-Central, it's 25%.

01:31:13.000 In West-North-Central, 25%.

01:31:14.000 In the mountain region, it's negative 29%.

01:31:17.000 Everywhere!

01:31:17.000 in West, North, Central, 25.

01:31:21.000 In the mountain region, it's negative 29%.

01:31:24.000 Everywhere!

01:31:26.000 Wow.

01:31:28.000 I saw this story earlier today that gay bars in Chicago aren't buying Bud Light

01:31:32.000 They're boycotting it.

01:31:33.000 Because they're also boycotting because the brand didn't stand behind Dylan Mulvaney enough.

01:31:38.000 Like, they can't win.

01:31:39.000 They have really shot themselves in both feet.

01:31:41.000 They're getting hit from both sides on that.

01:31:42.000 Exactly.

01:31:43.000 Oh my gosh.

01:31:43.000 This is great.

01:31:45.000 We're winning.

01:31:46.000 So, you know, for those that didn't hear what we were talking about in the previous segment, just about how the New York Times and Politico are smearing my good name and lying about this show, I don't know how much it matters.

01:31:58.000 They have no influence anymore.

01:32:01.000 I go out and people smile and wave, shake my hand, they can take pictures with me.

01:32:06.000 People who watch the show, and these are urban centers, this is what I think they're really afraid of. 0.95

01:32:10.000 They were in New York City, and an urban liberal New York City guy says, oh yeah, listen to Tim Pool's podcast, and they're like, oh crap. 0.60

01:32:18.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:32:19.000 We're losing urban liberals.

01:32:21.000 That's a problem. 0.99

01:32:23.000 Well, and they'll be losing liberals in New York City way faster if they don't get it turned around soon, because New York City is just absolute garbage. 0.98

01:32:33.000 Yeah, well, this is what I'm saying, everybody. 0.95

01:32:34.000 With this story about Bud Light losing again and again and again, it's been over a month.

01:32:40.000 It was April 1st that Dylan Mulvaney did this TikTok, and now, May 10th, Anheuser-Busch is still spiraling because of this.

01:32:51.000 So keep it up.

01:32:52.000 I think we're winning. 0.97

01:32:55.000 I think that the Bud Light decision, right next to firing Tucker, is probably one of the dumbest business decisions anybody has ever made.

01:33:04.000 Well, they tried claiming it was a third-party company that did it.

01:33:07.000 And they're like, oh, we don't know it was a third-party company that did it.

01:33:09.000 That's not even better.

01:33:10.000 But apparently, there was one writer for the Washington Post who said, That Bud Light is a cash cow that's never going to grow.

01:33:19.000 It is basically generic.

01:33:21.000 At this point, it is so ubiquitous, it's just synonymous with beer.

01:33:25.000 Take the money, accept it.

01:33:27.000 But they bring in some young VP of marketing who's like, I'm gonna grow this brand.

01:33:32.000 Tries to find a new demographic and then nukes it into oblivion. 0.96

01:33:35.000 She wanted to shed the Freddie image, she said on one podcast.

01:33:39.000 It's interesting the demographic that they chose, and I'm just talking about the age.

01:33:42.000 15 year olds?

01:33:44.000 I've heard Ian talk about that a lot.

01:33:47.000 It's just like, if you look at the actual age group, what exactly were they after there?

01:33:53.000 Have they said anything about that?

01:33:55.000 Teens, you know?

01:33:56.000 They're not going to.

01:33:57.000 I mean, that's the thing.

01:33:58.000 It reminds me of, didn't cigarette companies get in trouble at one point because they were advertising, like, on children's toys or whatever?

01:34:04.000 Well, no, they had the camel.

01:34:06.000 Joe Camel was a cartoon.

01:34:06.000 Oh, Joe Camel, and it was too nice, yeah.

01:34:10.000 And then they had to modify their branding.

01:34:12.000 I think with Bud Light, they They didn't think about the audience in the consequences.

01:34:18.000 They only thought, we can capture young drinkers.

01:34:21.000 Maybe they aren't drinking, maybe when they go to drink, they will start drinking Bud Light.

01:34:24.000 They didn't think about the fact that it's completely inappropriate for a lot of reasons.

01:34:28.000 And they only put themselves and their own ideology first.

01:34:31.000 I thought it was funny this Washington Post writer said, the confusing thing about the campaign was Dylan Mulvaney's faux Audrey Hepburn act, like, caters to no one.

01:34:41.000 It's like, Dylan Mulvaney's audience are all under 21, so they're not buying beer, and then the rest of the audience is over 50 and they're drinking wine.

01:34:49.000 So what was Bud Light thinking?

01:34:52.000 And then Bud Light, of course, was like, no, no, no, it was a third party.

01:34:54.000 So now here's the best part.

01:34:55.000 Yeah, you mentioned, I think it's up to six gay bars?

01:34:58.000 Yeah.

01:34:58.000 Five or six in Chicago are boycotting Anheuser-Busch outright because Anheuser-Busch won't give them political influence.

01:35:07.000 Now think about that.

01:35:08.000 The right just says, leave us alone.

01:35:10.000 The left says, give us what we want or else.

01:35:13.000 Stop pandering to these people. 0.84

01:35:14.000 They're going to make your life miserable. 0.87

01:35:16.000 But you know what?

01:35:17.000 We're winning.

01:35:17.000 So... Now not to play devil's advocate, but how is the rest of Anheuser-Busch doing?

01:35:24.000 Because they have like...

01:35:26.000 There's so many other products that like... Overall, globally, Anheuser-Busch, I think they said it was like around 1% decline in general sales.

01:35:37.000 But we're talking about American cultural influence.

01:35:40.000 If Anheuser-Busch says we were abandoning U.S.

01:35:42.000 markets with Bud Light because it's a failed brand, we won.

01:35:46.000 I think we won already at this point.

01:35:48.000 No Clydesdale is going to save it.

01:35:52.000 That was such a tone-deaf response, too.

01:35:54.000 It'll be a donkey in a dress. 1.00

01:35:56.000 Wasn't that what set Rogan off?

01:35:59.000 Was the Clydesdale, the pandering?

01:36:01.000 Yeah, but here's a story we have from Tim Cass News.

01:36:04.000 Bud Light Boycott is spreading to other Anheuser-Busch brands.

01:36:07.000 Company may be in a no-win situation as gay bars are ditching Anheuser-Busch beer. 0.78

01:36:12.000 See, what's happened now is because These gay bars are upset with Anheuser-Busch as a brand. 0.70

01:36:18.000 It's not even about Bud Light to them, it's about all of the brands they do sell.

01:36:22.000 And conservatives too, right?

01:36:23.000 They were all like... I saw all these graphics of like, don't drink Modelo, here are the other ones, just so you know.

01:36:28.000 Because it's like BIV or something like that. 0.92

01:36:30.000 InBev or something.

01:36:31.000 InBev.

01:36:33.000 And it's a bummer because Modelo is actually pretty good.

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 I think Serge is mourning that loss.

01:36:37.000 Yep.

01:36:37.000 I am sad about that.

01:36:39.000 But it is interesting that it was a boycott that was effective partially because people were already aware of what else was under the umbrella, right?

01:36:45.000 Like if you boycotted, I don't know, a shoe company, right?

01:36:49.000 If they own four other shoe companies, you're not really hurting them.

01:36:52.000 Whereas people were able to identify, oh, these are all Bud Lightwear.

01:36:55.000 Look at this.

01:36:55.000 So we know that Miller and Coors are way up, like 20%, right?

01:37:00.000 St.

01:37:00.000 Louis Business Journal says Budweiser is down 11.4.

01:37:02.000 That's not Bud Light, that's Budweiser.

01:37:05.000 Michelob Ultra, down 4.4.

01:37:07.000 Bush Light, 1.8.

01:37:09.000 And Natty Light, 5.2.

01:37:11.000 So it is hitting their other brands.

01:37:15.000 So hey, good job everybody.

01:37:18.000 This warrants a round of drinks.

01:37:19.000 Does anybody have any, oh wait.

01:37:21.000 It was funny when Lance from the service here, he brought a Bud Light Tallboy.

01:37:24.000 Yeah.

01:37:24.000 And he waited till the after show.

01:37:26.000 I was like, bro, why don't you crack that thing open on the show?

01:37:28.000 Like, it was funny.

01:37:29.000 See, he's not willing to commit to the bet.

01:37:31.000 He's sort of in the boycott.

01:37:32.000 Yeah.

01:37:33.000 He didn't want everybody to see that he had a bud light.

01:37:35.000 He didn't want anyone to think that he was effeminate or anything like that.

01:37:38.000 How long do you think the boycott will last?

01:37:40.000 I think they're done.

01:37:41.000 I think, I'm seeing people online, there was one story in Newsweek where a couple got attacked and they say it was because they were buying Bud Light and the person like, they got into a fight over it or something like that.

01:37:51.000 They were attacked at a liquor store?

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 Because somebody started making fun of them over buying Bud Light and then they started yelling at each other.

01:37:57.000 Alcohol was involved. 0.89

01:37:59.000 Bud Light, brand is everything, and Bud Light is synonymous with being a homosexual. 1.00

01:38:06.000 I am not saying that to be mean or funny or derisive. 0.74

01:38:09.000 I am saying that as a fact marketing statement that if you because of Dylan Mulvaney's notoriety and the backlash it is now perceivably associating you with being a homosexual.

01:38:24.000 There was a video where a cast members in the Book of Mormon crack beers in like Times Square or something and say, Hey Dylan!

01:38:31.000 Like, thank you so much!

01:38:33.000 Bud Light!

01:38:34.000 Woo! 0.99

01:38:34.000 And they drink it, and I'm like, that was the last thing Bud Light wanted to happen. 0.99

01:38:37.000 Because they're hammering the nail into the coffin that if you drink Bud Light, you are likely an effeminate homosexual man. 0.99

01:38:44.000 You're homosexual, but you're not enough of an ally. 1.00

01:38:46.000 That's why the gay buyers won't buy your beer. 1.00

01:38:49.000 But I'm not sure that matters. 0.88

01:38:50.000 I mean, look, if you're some 38-year-old dude, 40-year-old dude at a ballgame, do you want to be the one person?

01:38:56.000 There was a viral video from Fenway Park where nobody would buy Bud Light.

01:38:59.000 Cuz do you wanna walk up to a chick and be like, hey, wanna bud light? 0.97

01:39:03.000 And she'll be like, are you gay? 0.99

01:39:05.000 No! 0.99

01:39:06.000 And again, I'm not saying to be derisive, I'm saying the brand has associated itself with that.

01:39:10.000 Because of the hyper-partisan nature of the sales of this beer, you will be perceived as being a supporter of LGBT groups, as left-wing, or as a gay man yourself, if you're drinking the beer.

01:39:21.000 There's a political association now with it.

01:39:23.000 I feel like the only real save for them is to simply be honest.

01:39:30.000 Be honest with what the whole tactic was, and maybe issue an apology.

01:39:35.000 But it kind of feels like after you were saying that, it just made me feel like, Well, a tactic that you could potentially imagine is, now you could say that you're discriminating, and if you boycott and discriminate against Bud Light, you are this. 0.98

01:39:50.000 You are homophobic, you're transphobic, you're a white supremacist. 0.96

01:39:54.000 They don't... Bud Light does not want that, because that just pushes them to one market. 1.00

01:39:59.000 It may now be the case that Bud Light's only opportunity is to pander to the left.

01:40:05.000 But then they lose all their market share because they have to double down.

01:40:08.000 If they came out right away and just said, we're really sorry about this campaign, we didn't realize it would be so divisive, please accept our apologies, and they just did that, I'd imagine sales would have recovered right away.

01:40:19.000 But I'm telling you, I've been in these corporate executive offices during PR crises, and I know exactly what these people say. 0.99

01:40:25.000 They say, listen, The people who buy your products are dumb as a box of rocks. 0.99

01:40:29.000 They'll forget all about it. 1.00

01:40:30.000 Just shut your mouth. 0.98

01:40:32.000 PR 101. 0.89

01:40:33.000 Do not add fuel to the fire.

01:40:34.000 And Bud Light, Budweiser, and Anheuser-Busch said, OK.

01:40:37.000 And they ignored it.

01:40:37.000 And it festered and got worse.

01:40:39.000 Then someone said, OK, well, we got to do something now.

01:40:41.000 Then they put out that Clydesdale commercial, which just made everything worse.

01:40:46.000 They refused to apologize.

01:40:47.000 And they don't realize the people who drink their beer, people these days, they're networked.

01:40:52.000 We're hooked in.

01:40:53.000 We're not forgetting about this.

01:40:55.000 And now it's gotten to the point where, uh, someone mentioned on Twitter, Babylon B wrote a joke.

01:40:59.000 It said, uh, guys drinking Cosmos at bar make fun of dude drinking Bud Light or something like that.

01:41:05.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 That's the perception of you when you go to a bar and buy a Bud Light.

01:41:09.000 That you are like an effeminate Man. 0.99

01:41:13.000 Or gay or something. 1.00

01:41:15.000 And guys, they don't want to be perceived that way. 0.87

01:41:18.000 Especially when they're trying to pick up chicks. 1.00

01:41:20.000 Could you imagine being at a bar and then being like, ooh, there's some beautiful men over there.

01:41:25.000 I'm not going to get a Bud Light.

01:41:26.000 Give me an Old English.

01:41:27.000 Give me a Guinness.

01:41:29.000 I want to look strong.

01:41:31.000 You get a yingling and go, hey ladies, did you know that yingling is the oldest brew in America?

01:41:36.000 And they're like, oh wow, that's so impressive.

01:41:38.000 Your knowledge has impressed me so much.

01:41:40.000 Would you like to join us?

01:41:40.000 And you're like, that's right.

01:41:41.000 But if you walk over with a Bud Light, they're gonna be like, I always wanted a gay best friend!

01:41:45.000 And you're gonna be like, oh no, no, no, no!

01:41:46.000 There you go.

01:41:48.000 Those are the two choices.

01:41:49.000 You can take one.

01:41:51.000 I am curious to see what happens with the people working at Bud Light, because obviously if they have a downturn in business, I can only assume that layoffs come.

01:41:58.000 I also imagine that the people who actually work in their factories or their breweries or whatever, They didn't get consulted for this move, and now their livelihoods are at risk because of one Harvard grad marketing executive, and that seems pretty terrible to me.

01:42:14.000 I was just going to say, what officially happened with the CEO?

01:42:20.000 Let go?

01:42:20.000 Of what?

01:42:21.000 We're all on leave.

01:42:23.000 Two marketing people were placed on leave.

01:42:24.000 That's what it was.

01:42:25.000 We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you really do like it, because boy, they really don't like us.

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01:42:57.000 We win, they lose, they decay, cease to exist, and then in a hundred years we'll be writing their obituary.

01:43:04.000 And we're gonna have a members-only show coming up at 10.10 p.m.

01:43:07.000 We're gonna have call-ins from the audience, so you guys can even call into the show.

01:43:11.000 Let's read.

01:43:12.000 Voice of the People says, Tim, Google E. Gene Carroll Juror 77 and read the political article.

01:43:17.000 They tried to get rid of that juror because he listens to you.

01:43:19.000 Robert Gouveia covered that today.

01:43:21.000 You should bring him on sometime.

01:43:23.000 Spoke with him before.

01:43:24.000 We don't know who the juror is, but he's clearly not a supporter of Trump.

01:43:28.000 Or do they mean Robert Gouveia?

01:43:29.000 That's what they want on.

01:43:30.000 Right, I know.

01:43:31.000 I'm saying, as for this individual, this juror, we don't know who he is.

01:43:34.000 And I, look, I'll say, I don't know what evidence he saw in trial that made him think Trump was liable for this, but it seems insane to me.

01:43:44.000 I think the reality is, it was probably like, what was that movie where all the jurors are in the room and the one guy, he's all- 12 Angry Men.

01:43:53.000 12 Angry Men, yeah, it was like that.

01:43:54.000 The one guy's like, I don't know, man, I watch TimCast, I'm a reasonable person, I think Trump's not liable.

01:43:59.000 And then they just like, I feel like it had to be a technicality, like the law was written in such a way that there was no way to not convict.

01:44:09.000 It had to be a really, really poorly written law.

01:44:12.000 Yeah, he didn't get convicted of sexual abuse, he got convicted of being liable for sexual abuse.

01:44:16.000 They said, if you think that Trump was physically present, then he's responsible or something.

01:44:21.000 But you know what?

01:44:22.000 I'm just going to say this.

01:44:24.000 There is no way Donald Trump walked into the Bergdorf without people being like, Mr. Trump!

01:44:31.000 And people being like, Oh, is it Donald?

01:44:32.000 It's Donald Trump.

01:44:33.000 Oh, man.

01:44:33.000 Wow.

01:44:34.000 It's like, dude, so I like to hang out at like MGM National Harbor or Maryland Live or whatever.

01:44:40.000 And every single time, people are like, hey, Tim Pool, man, fist bump.

01:44:44.000 I'm like, hey, nice to meet you.

01:44:45.000 What's your name, Jim?

01:44:46.000 Nice to meet you, man, appreciate it.

01:44:47.000 Nonstop.

01:44:48.000 And I am nothing compared to, I am an ant. 1.00

01:44:51.000 I am a zit on the ass of a mosquito compared to Donald Trump. 0.99

01:44:54.000 Even in the 90s, we're talking about one of the most famous people in the world with his name on a building, and you think he's gonna walk into the Bergdorf, and nobody noticed. 0.99

01:45:01.000 Nobody noticed he was there.

01:45:03.000 I liked his, and I own the plaza across the street.

01:45:06.000 And he's walking around with no security.

01:45:08.000 No, no, no.

01:45:09.000 Donald Trump isn't even walking around.

01:45:10.000 He's getting in cars.

01:45:11.000 He has security detail.

01:45:12.000 People are opening the door for him.

01:45:14.000 So when he walks into the Bergdorf with like 10 staff members, he's like, where's the lady?

01:45:18.000 Oh, ma'am, come this way.

01:45:20.000 Staff, follow me.

01:45:20.000 We're going to the dressing room.

01:45:21.000 Get out of here.

01:45:22.000 This is insane.

01:45:23.000 Right. 0.99

01:45:24.000 Absolutely ridiculous story. 0.97

01:45:25.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:45:26.000 All right.

01:45:27.000 Matt H says, seriously Tim, check out Humankind, it's better than Civilization.

01:45:31.000 I'll take a look.

01:45:32.000 I've heard that's good.

01:45:34.000 Goldilocks Production says, Tim, I gotta call you out.

01:45:36.000 Nazi Germany was not fascist.

01:45:38.000 That was Italy.

01:45:39.000 They were National Socialists.

01:45:40.000 Fascism, National Socialists, Communists, and Marxists all fall under left-wing socialism.

01:45:44.000 Learn history.

01:45:45.000 Watch Tiki History to learn more about this.

01:45:48.000 I understand the, uh, I've read about, uh, National Socialists policies.

01:45:54.000 So, basically, there's many ways you can bring it down.

01:45:57.000 National Socialism was not, uh, People will call themselves things that they're not. 0.94

01:46:03.000 Antifa says that they're anti-fascist when they're like authoritarian psychopaths.

01:46:07.000 So I guess you can argue that Antifa, the original anti-fascist action, was the militant wing of the Communist Party in Weimar Germany, so I get that.

01:46:14.000 But the thing about National Socialists, Fascists, etc., is that these were considered the right because they were traditionalists, and the Communists were ultra-progressive.

01:46:22.000 The communists wanted to purge history.

01:46:25.000 The right, the various factions, wanted to preserve tradition and history.

01:46:29.000 And that was the principal difference between two overtly authoritarian factions, which went on to brutally murder millions of people.

01:46:37.000 What did the communists murder?

01:46:38.000 100 million or something?

01:46:39.000 100 million, yeah.

01:46:39.000 That's a lot of people.

01:46:40.000 Yeah.

01:46:40.000 That's crazy.

01:46:41.000 Also, TIK history is cool.

01:46:42.000 It's a good page.

01:46:43.000 Oh, is it TIK history?

01:46:44.000 TIK history, yeah.

01:46:46.000 TIK history.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, it's a good page.

01:46:47.000 Not cheeky.

01:46:48.000 Good information.

01:46:49.000 Let's read some more!

01:46:51.000 BoostedYogi says, from what I'm understanding, she filed the lawsuit the day after it was signed into law.

01:46:58.000 Amazing.

01:46:59.000 Nothing to see here.

01:47:00.000 Don't ask any questions.

01:47:03.000 Totally legitimate.

01:47:04.000 Burtman asks, how come leftists aren't boycotting CNN for platforming Trump?

01:47:10.000 You're supposed to be a writer over here at Timcast.

01:47:12.000 And they are.

01:47:13.000 There were there were people at CNN who was there was a CNN commentator contractor actually wrote a statement published Twitter saying it is wrong that CNN is doing this.

01:47:21.000 You should not be platforming this man.

01:47:22.000 Did they quit?

01:47:23.000 There was a bunch of comments to when it was first announced.

01:47:26.000 There was tons of comments from from libs who were just pissed off.

01:47:30.000 Yep.

01:47:32.000 All right, where we at with the super chats?

01:47:35.000 Let's see what we got.

01:47:37.000 JackknifeTV says they're going to try to lead him on.

01:47:40.000 She is openly pushing the subject to get him to dive deeper.

01:47:42.000 This is a reference to Trump talking about January 6 and the election.

01:47:46.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:47:47.000 CNN, when Trump was like, we got to talk about election because our borders are terrible right now.

01:47:52.000 And she's like, well, I want to go back to January 6 because they want the soundbites.

01:47:55.000 They want the commercials.

01:47:56.000 They're doing Democrats a favor in that.

01:47:59.000 I'm sure some Democrat was like, Can you get Trump to talk for even a few minutes about January 6th and the election?

01:48:05.000 Because we are going to chop that thing up a hundred ways and run ads like crazy.

01:48:10.000 Like, don't worry, don't worry.

01:48:11.000 Kalen Collins goes out there and the guy in her ear is saying, ask him again.

01:48:14.000 Now ask him again.

01:48:15.000 Tell him no and go ask him again.

01:48:17.000 And that's why she kept saying the same things over and over again.

01:48:20.000 Every time they have a debate, that's where the moderators start from, is a list of questions that they have to ask so they can get the soundbite that they want.

01:48:30.000 And then they ask it in the exact way that they need to.

01:48:32.000 Look, I feel bad for that stay-at-home mom. 0.61

01:48:34.000 She came in, she asked her question, a specific question about the troops, which I thought would have been an interesting answer.

01:48:39.000 And to be fair, Trump and sweet, sweet Caitlyn both ignored it.

01:48:43.000 Caitlyn just introduced five other questions.

01:48:45.000 BushTail says Trump hit it out of the park. 0.98

01:48:47.000 He talked circles around that moron sharing the stage with him and nailed answering the crowd questions. 1.00

01:48:53.000 CNN embarrassed themselves with this one. 1.00

01:48:54.000 I completely agree.

01:48:56.000 I think he started a little slow.

01:48:57.000 I was getting a little frustrated, but then he quickly just swung it out of the park.

01:49:00.000 Amazing.

01:49:01.000 Amazing.

01:49:01.000 When he was like, well, I'm not president anymore.

01:49:03.000 That was the first big hit.

01:49:06.000 It was amazing.

01:49:08.000 Yeah, I like when he is succinct and not rattled.

01:49:14.000 When he was getting rattled, you could kind of tell, especially when they were talking about the documents, that was just too much talking over one another.

01:49:20.000 And really, that's the moderator's job to try and keep it from getting that way.

01:49:26.000 But I really like the conversation about Ukraine, and it really made her look like, dude, she answered you, or he answered you very succinctly, several ways, and she kept going back to it.

01:49:40.000 That's how you can see she's got to try and pull something out of it, otherwise she's not doing her job.

01:49:46.000 I like this, because Trump gives the answers I want to hear.

01:49:52.000 It's like, is he perfect?

01:49:53.000 No, of course he's not.

01:49:54.000 Nobody's going to be.

01:49:56.000 But when he was talking about abortion, and she's like, will you sign an abortion ban?

01:50:01.000 Politicians will be like, well, you know, abortions are an interesting thing, and I think as an American, we have to... Trump said, it depends on what the deal is.

01:50:07.000 Bring the deal to me, we'll negotiate, because we have negotiating power.

01:50:10.000 He's like, I got Roe v. Wade overturned, now we'll bring the deal to the table, we'll see what we get.

01:50:13.000 I'm like, that's a good answer.

01:50:16.000 It's like, It's absurd that they try and ask these absolutist questions they know will do.

01:50:22.000 The only thing that will happen is you will lose support.

01:50:25.000 Will you ban abortion outright, Donald Trump?

01:50:28.000 Trump could just be like, well, it's more complicated than that.

01:50:31.000 Probably to some degree, but not absolutely.

01:50:33.000 The answer's not yes or no.

01:50:36.000 And he even said, he was like, look, some people say six weeks, some people say eight weeks, I don't know, we'll see.

01:50:39.000 And then she kept asking over and over again.

01:50:41.000 What they're gonna do is they're gonna clip it up and say Trump refused to answer.

01:50:44.000 Yeah.

01:50:45.000 Well, do you remember in 2016, during the Republican debates, they kept asking him if he would accept the results of the election.

01:50:54.000 And they asked it over and over and over again, and he refused to respond.

01:51:00.000 And that was, again, one of those things where they were going to throw that back at him.

01:51:04.000 And the fishing, all they do is fish.

01:51:08.000 Right.

01:51:09.000 Brandon Hampson says, as a sailor who has been drunken, we spend atrocious amounts of money when we're half-seas over.

01:51:16.000 Thank goodness we're hearing from the source.

01:51:17.000 There we go, now we know.

01:51:18.000 Now we know.

01:51:19.000 I think of it as being like the sailors on leave, right?

01:51:21.000 Like, compare them to all kinds of wild things.

01:51:23.000 In high school in Singapore I saw a lot of sailors on leave doing just that.

01:51:26.000 Spending an absurd amount of money because they're at port, you know?

01:51:29.000 I was in the Air Force, we did the same.

01:51:31.000 Yeah, totally.

01:51:32.000 But you guys aren't as gone for as long as the sailors are.

01:51:36.000 No, we just like to drink.

01:51:38.000 Fair.

01:51:39.000 Sergeant Buck says Caitlin Collins is debating Trump so much she may as well announce she's running for president.

01:51:44.000 Seriously.

01:51:45.000 Because the town hall isn't supposed to be that.

01:51:48.000 No.

01:51:49.000 She's supposed to say, what do you think about X?

01:51:51.000 And then have him answer.

01:51:52.000 And then once he's done talking, you can say, so unlike the election thing, I would say, Mr. President, you've stated X. Please explain to the audience your views.

01:52:02.000 Then Trump talks.

01:52:04.000 Then, you can say, yes, but according to this person in your administration, you were wrong about this.

01:52:10.000 How would you respond to that?

01:52:12.000 That's what a town hall's supposed to be. 0.97

01:52:13.000 Not, no, you're wrong, you're wrong, wrong, wrong Trump.

01:52:16.000 Like, what are you, you're debating him?

01:52:18.000 And then she kept doing it every time, like, no, I'm sorry, that's not true, Trump, you're wrong, you can't say that.

01:52:22.000 It's like...

01:52:24.000 You're not here to debate him on what is right or wrong.

01:52:27.000 He is here to speak.

01:52:28.000 Right.

01:52:29.000 It's crazy.

01:52:29.000 It's like live fact-checking.

01:52:32.000 I'm not a Trump fan, but the thing that I really appreciated from him was the thing about Ukraine when she kept saying, who do you want to win?

01:52:42.000 It was such an obvious bait thing and he actually, he said it in the exact way that you would want somebody to be like, it's not about winning.

01:52:50.000 It really is about people not dying anymore.

01:52:53.000 It made her look so immature.

01:52:56.000 It makes CNN look so surface level.

01:52:58.000 They're equating this to winning.

01:53:01.000 It made their tactics very obvious, and it was such a virtue signal.

01:53:05.000 It was like, we need to be able to put you in a camp, so you need to answer this question like I'm asking it, not the way you're asking it now.

01:53:13.000 That's why she kept coming back to it.

01:53:16.000 Desanctimonious.

01:53:18.000 No, it doesn't work.

01:53:19.000 work. Not a fan. Maybe Dismal. The Swamptist? Yeah, that's better. The Swamptist. I think

01:53:24.000 there has to be a better nickname than that. The Swamptist.

01:53:29.000 DeSatan? DeSatan might be a little too far.

01:53:34.000 I honestly think Meatball Ron was the best one.

01:53:37.000 Yeah, or just call him Ronny.

01:53:38.000 Like, make him sound like a little kid.

01:53:41.000 Lil Ronny.

01:53:42.000 I'm not sure DeSanctimonious is my favorite.

01:53:45.000 Lil Ronny or Meatball Ron?

01:53:47.000 Meatball Ron's great.

01:53:48.000 I mean, I think Ron DeSantis is the best governor this country's had in a very, very long time.

01:53:51.000 I think he's doing amazing work in Florida, and I think he'd be a great president.

01:53:56.000 I'm leaning towards Trump at the current moment, and I think Trump just did an excellent performance.

01:54:01.000 I've said this a lot of times, but do you think we could maybe just not get into these two camps already?

01:54:07.000 It's gotta be Trump-DeSantis.

01:54:08.000 It's gotta be Trump-DeSantis VP.

01:54:10.000 Also, can't we just be glad that, like, Ron DeSantis did lots of cool things?

01:54:13.000 Let's not eviscerate all of the Republicans because, you know, you may support Trump.

01:54:18.000 Let's have lots of strong people in this side of the aisle.

01:54:22.000 I've said it a lot on Twitter and I keep getting, you know, attacked over it, but, like, I don't have a problem with Trump and I don't have a problem with DeSantis and I'm not sure why We have to have a problem with one or the other.

01:54:35.000 No, it needs to be Trump-DeSantis 2024.

01:54:39.000 It's the race to the bottom.

01:54:40.000 It's the tactic.

01:54:41.000 It's like, how do I make myself look good?

01:54:43.000 Well, the tactic is really smear the opponent.

01:54:46.000 Yeah.

01:54:46.000 So that's the race.

01:54:47.000 And I understand why Trump's doing it.

01:54:48.000 See, that's the thing is I understand why Trump's doing it, because that's his job.

01:54:51.000 His job is to, you know, get all the competition out of the way.

01:54:56.000 But I'm not sure why it's everyone on Twitter's job to then also get rid of anybody that doesn't currently hold the same position they do.

01:55:04.000 I guess that's just the nature of Twitter.

01:55:06.000 They're used to regurgitating the tactic.

01:55:09.000 They don't come up with the tactic, they regurgitate the tactic.

01:55:14.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:55:15.000 says, this lady is insufferable. 1.00

01:55:17.000 She really is.

01:55:18.000 Yeah, man.

01:55:19.000 She doesn't have the same, like... I mean, I get that they're trying, and they do need someone.

01:55:26.000 But you look at someone like Megyn Kelly, and you know why she became an anchor.

01:55:29.000 Like, she's got it.

01:55:30.000 You look at Laura Ingraham, and you're like, I get it.

01:55:33.000 They have punch.

01:55:35.000 Like, you watch them, and you're like...

01:55:37.000 That's a person with x-factor.

01:55:38.000 Can you even consider that?

01:55:40.000 It's like dry, droll, and generic. 0.97

01:55:43.000 And whiny. 0.91

01:55:44.000 Yeah.

01:55:45.000 Like, the biggest takeaway from tonight for her was how whiny she was. 0.83

01:55:49.000 So annoying.

01:55:50.000 No.

01:55:51.000 No, that's not right.

01:55:52.000 It's not right, no.

01:55:53.000 No.

01:55:53.000 She needed more poise.

01:55:55.000 Yeah.

01:55:56.000 She wasn't poised.

01:55:57.000 You could tell, even though she had, like, good posture and she didn't really, like, cringe her face too much.

01:56:03.000 No presence.

01:56:03.000 You could tell, yeah.

01:56:04.000 She got upstage.

01:56:05.000 She did.

01:56:06.000 But it's not about being upstage.

01:56:07.000 I mean, you're not supposed to be there too upstage.

01:56:09.000 Right, there's no upstaging.

01:56:10.000 But she has no presence.

01:56:13.000 It's like she was an inverse presence, like sucking energy instead of exuding energy.

01:56:17.000 Totally.

01:56:17.000 I think this is something that you'll hear tomorrow a lot, which is that, oh, the right is attacking her for pushing back on Trump, and girls have such a hard time, because when they assert themselves, people say they're bossy.

01:56:28.000 And I think it's important to note that, like, she didn't perform well.

01:56:32.000 It's not about the fact that she's female, it's about the fact that she did not moderate this conversation.

01:56:37.000 She really tried to argue her points, and in fact, she did not advance this experience for anyone, including the network she's supposed to represent.

01:56:45.000 Well, it was her conversation.

01:56:48.000 She wasn't advancing anyone else's conversation except for herself.

01:56:50.000 And she didn't win anything.

01:56:51.000 She made herself, and therefore CNN, look bad.

01:56:57.000 What do we got here?

01:56:58.000 Toosnalorum says, not making every single liberal who fled a city, did mail-in voting to cast a vote, and voted locally in the place they fled to, a non... This is kind of sentence fragmenting.

01:57:09.000 I'm not sure what they're saying.

01:57:11.000 A non-voting felon for life is the same thing as too big to fail argument because it would obliterate the Democratic Party.

01:57:18.000 They were responding to something, but I can't tell what it was.

01:57:20.000 Yeah.

01:57:21.000 It's... Yeah, okay.

01:57:22.000 I was trying to read it.

01:57:23.000 Sorry, man.

01:57:23.000 I appreciate it.

01:57:24.000 But...

01:57:26.000 A non-voting felon for life is the same exact thing as a too-big-to-fail argument?

01:57:30.000 You're implying that if we take away a felon's right to vote, Democrats lose?

01:57:35.000 That's what I can figure out from that.

01:57:38.000 I'm not sure.

01:57:38.000 I don't know, that's interestingly worded.

01:57:43.000 Yeah.

01:57:45.000 Dansky says, Tim, I think you're confusing the Texas shooter with a juror.

01:57:47.000 Read four episodes.

01:57:48.000 I am not.

01:57:50.000 In the court documents, they say he watched three or four episodes, and the shooter posted four clips from one episode.

01:57:57.000 So that guy only watched one episode.

01:57:59.000 And the media just lies.

01:58:02.000 You know, whatever.

01:58:04.000 Sir Alexander Full says they want to give Tucker Carlson your time slot.

01:58:07.000 Why?

01:58:08.000 This is the crazy thing, right?

01:58:09.000 Like, I go on Joe Rogan's show, and he's talking about Ivermectin, and I'm like, I disagree, I don't think it does anything.

01:58:15.000 And they're like, Tim Pool is the poster boy for Ivermectin, and I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:58:19.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:58:20.000 They're like desperate.

01:58:21.000 They're like, please, Tim, please, please be right wing.

01:58:24.000 And I'm like, I just disagree with that.

01:58:26.000 I just don't understand.

01:58:28.000 And then here I am using the New York Times as a source.

01:58:30.000 And they're like, he must be far right.

01:58:32.000 It's just dude, I mean, keep doing that.

01:58:33.000 You're discrediting yourselves.

01:58:35.000 I'll take the freebies.

01:58:36.000 If you're right-wing, then you're Fox's problem, right?

01:58:39.000 You're stealing Fox's audience.

01:58:40.000 But if you are moderate, and you're drawing from both places, then you are everybody's problem.

01:58:44.000 And that's what they don't want.

01:58:46.000 That's why they're going after me now, because they're like, our audience, like an urban liberal New Yorker in the Bronx will watch Timcast.

01:58:53.000 But it's like, we gotta stop that.

01:58:55.000 You cannot take the Young Turks' audience from them.

01:58:59.000 Don't do it.

01:59:00.000 You're right, because they've already lost it.

01:59:03.000 Well, and when we went to Congress and Matt Gaetz was there, he was saying he'd come out here, he'd done the show, and then we went to Congress and he was like, I was amazed by how many truck drivers or waitresses or just working people were like, oh, I saw you on Tim Pool.

01:59:16.000 That was awesome, man.

01:59:17.000 I think people underestimate podcasting in general.

01:59:21.000 I don't think they really understand or know how to measure and compare to these mainstream established platforms.

01:59:25.000 But especially the work that you've done, it's unique in a way that they are not sure what to do, so they'd rather just crush you.

01:59:31.000 New York Times, I don't even know what the show is.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:33.000 They said The Culture War.

01:59:35.000 Like that thing we launched two months ago and there's like, what do we have, 11 episodes?

01:59:38.000 Literally 11 episodes.

01:59:39.000 11 episodes.

01:59:39.000 That's how influential.

01:59:41.000 In 11 episodes, you have corrupted a jury.

01:59:43.000 It's amazing.

01:59:44.000 It's amazing.

01:59:44.000 I'm just saying like when you talk about conspiracy theories, we've never talked about conspiracy Well, the legacy media doesn't understand any of the new media at all.

01:59:53.000 No.

01:59:53.000 I mean, it's clear from the tactics that they take that they don't understand Joe Rogan, they don't understand Tim Pool, they don't understand Crowder, they don't understand whoever.

02:00:06.000 They are completely living 20 years in the past and they're getting killed.

02:00:11.000 They're a cult. 0.86

02:00:12.000 They're getting killed too.

02:00:12.000 I mean, the ratings or the watches for this show will take out pretty much any of CNN's daily stuff.

02:00:23.000 Oh yeah, no question.

02:00:25.000 They don't even hit, they barely hit five figures in the key demo.

02:00:28.000 Right.

02:00:30.000 Well, any animal that's dying lashes out for the last bastion of control.

02:00:36.000 And really what the legacy media is seeing is that this new media and alternative media

02:00:42.000 is really stepping up.

02:00:43.000 So they need to try and exercise some control over it by placing people in certain camps

02:00:50.000 and them controlling the narrative of what those camps mean.

02:00:53.000 And I think, you know, it sounds trite to say it, but the 2024 election is likely going to be the most important one of all time.

02:01:03.000 This is a very seemingly pivotal time in history.

02:01:07.000 So it makes sense to like, okay, who has sway?

02:01:11.000 Who has influence?

02:01:13.000 Control the boxes that you can put them in.

02:01:15.000 And that way, the legacy media that feels like they're dying has a little bit of control left.

02:01:20.000 But does it really matter since the robots are going to kill us anyway?

02:01:24.000 They're not going to.

02:01:26.000 Terminator's wrong.

02:01:27.000 I haven't seen that movie yet, so I don't know.

02:01:29.000 The Terminator's going to knock on your door and then people are going to be like, huh, it's the Terminator!

02:01:33.000 It's come to get us!

02:01:34.000 And he's going to clean your house.

02:01:36.000 And he's going to plug into your brain and then give you untold euphoric pleasures and put you into the metaverse where you experience all of the great things and you never want to leave.

02:01:46.000 Like, what was it in Star Trek Generations?

02:01:49.000 Was it the Nexus?

02:01:51.000 What did they call it?

02:01:51.000 I don't know.

02:01:53.000 Yeah, but I've never seen that movie, because I'm not a Star Trek person, right?

02:01:55.000 Where it's like, so, basically there's this, like, dimensional rift or something, and when you're in it, you experience ultimate happiness and you never want to leave.

02:02:04.000 William Shatner has a family, and he's chopping wood in the forest.

02:02:08.000 And he doesn't want to leave, and Picard's like, you have to leave, you have to leave this.

02:02:11.000 I'm just speculating, I don't know.

02:02:13.000 I'm just speculating, I saw the cliff notes to the movie, I didn't actually watch it, Well, that's kind of like SOMA we were talking about before.

02:02:20.000 SOMA from, what is that, 1984?

02:02:21.000 No, that's from Brave New World.

02:02:23.000 Yeah, so like being happy with your servitude.

02:02:26.000 Or Equilibrium, the best movie ever made.

02:02:28.000 The first thing I think happens is they go to people who lose loved ones, and they say, just plug in, and we've taken the social media of your loved one and created an AI version of them.

02:02:38.000 You can talk to them and ask them questions, and they're not going to want to leave.

02:02:41.000 It's called Replica.

02:02:42.000 Have you seen that?

02:02:43.000 Replica?

02:02:43.000 Replica is... Oh, the dating app.

02:02:45.000 Well, yeah.

02:02:46.000 They tried taking dating away from it because dudes were, you know...

02:02:49.000 Well, yeah, and then some people were let down because they kind of pulled back because it was getting a little too hot and heavy for them.

02:02:55.000 But it actually started, the woman who launched it, it was because she lost her best friend or something like that.

02:03:02.000 So she made a clone so she could cope with the loss, you know, so like that's where it started.

02:03:08.000 And then it started turning into like a dating thing.

02:03:11.000 Do you think that's coping?

02:03:12.000 Like if you lose someone and you make a clone of them, do you think you're actually grieving or do you think you're avoiding grief?

02:03:16.000 You know, like, that's a very interesting nuanced question because I would say, is meditating coping?

02:03:24.000 Is praying coping?

02:03:25.000 Is, like, anything from alcohol to cannabis to long walks on the beach coping?

02:03:31.000 But if you lose someone and they can't talk to you anymore, so you make a version of life where they can talk to you, are you actually letting that person go?

02:03:38.000 Are you grieving the loss and accepting that they are gone?

02:03:40.000 Yeah, I don't think there's a clear answer to that because in a sense I know many people who have like lost a loved one and they still speak with them in some way.

02:03:50.000 So this is externalizing it in the same way that writing is externalizing your mind onto the outside world.

02:03:56.000 So I don't know.

02:03:56.000 I don't know how to fully answer that.

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02:04:35.000 Yeah, well I'll just say go to benjosephstuart.com, check out all the content that I make, go to my YouTube page, which is youtube.com backslash benjosephstuart, and you'll see all the mini-docs that I've been making on things like modern-day Malek and where AI is headed and why I seem to be an optimist on all of it.

02:04:54.000 And we got a documentary that we're launching very soon as well.

02:04:57.000 Game of Money.

02:04:59.000 It's kind of a play on Game of Thrones.

02:05:02.000 And then a lot more to come after that.

02:05:04.000 We got a bunch of cool projects potentially.

02:05:06.000 Transhumanism is going to be an awesome sequel.

02:05:08.000 That's the one I want to do the most.

02:05:09.000 But this banking one I think is particularly relevant.

02:05:12.000 We got lucky with that.

02:05:12.000 It's timely.

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