Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Expects ARREST In Connection To Jan 6 w- Connor Tomlinson of The Lotus Eaters

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00:01:44.000 Yes, Conor Tomlinson, writer and host over at LotusEaters.com, spearheaded by the wonderful Carl Benjamin, also frequent face on GB News, the English equivalent to Fox, essentially.

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00:03:06.000 Donald Trump fears that he is going to be charged in connection with the January 6th riot at the Capitol.

00:03:15.000 He released a statement on Truth Social where he said he was anticipating that he'd be investigated.

00:03:20.000 We have a quote from him here.

00:03:23.000 Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with President Joe Biden's DOJ, sent a letter, again it was Sunday night, stating that I am a target of the January 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very short four days to respond to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and I don't have any drink to hand.

00:03:44.000 The former host of this show, Sir Timothy Kast, often has a two-word phrase that he

00:03:52.000 references, especially in reference to the President of the United States having legal

00:03:57.000 pressure on him or a former president being arrested.

00:04:00.000 You all know what that phrase is.

00:04:01.000 I don't have any drink to hand.

00:04:02.000 So are we allowed to talk about that at this point?

00:04:03.000 Exactly.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:04:04.000 place when the and i don't know Civil war.

00:04:07.000 That is what he would say, and in honor of him, I must repeat those words, because it's what he would have wanted.

00:04:12.000 How do you guys feel about this?

00:04:14.000 And also, as a Brit, looking and seeing American culture and society in governmental operations, how does this look to you?

00:04:21.000 Well, we as an American vassal state, a relationship which should have never been inverted, but there you go.

00:04:27.000 Same controversial things to the chat already.

00:04:30.000 It's obviously a political indictment.

00:04:32.000 It's obvious that they're trying to just get him off of the ballot in whichever states which would bar him if he were indicted from being off because they're petrified of him winning a safe and secure election.

00:04:43.000 One of the most egregious ones that we covered on our show was the E. Jean Carroll case, and we can't say she was making it up because that would be libelous, but considering she might have gotten her story from a Law & Order episode, this does not look very credulous.

00:04:58.000 Also, the whole documents thing.

00:05:00.000 I mean, yeah, okay, he's probably stored them improperly judging by the photos that were given to the New York Post, but he does have declassification power.

00:05:07.000 Joe Biden does the same thing.

00:05:09.000 Obviously a partisan justice system. 1.00

00:05:11.000 And so this is just another attempt in a long line of incredulous claims to try and scare him off.

00:05:16.000 And frankly, as a Brit, I don't think our political establishment would like Donald Trump back in.

00:05:21.000 I mean, the then Home Secretary Sajid Javid wrote a piece for The Times saying that he publicly endorsed Joe Biden while still in government. 0.93

00:05:30.000 Things like that are just ridiculous.

00:05:31.000 But Trump's energy policy, for example, fantastic for the UK before we decided to blow all our money on Ukraine and demolish our energy security. 0.88

00:05:40.000 And this was one of my former jobs, I used to work in energy policy.

00:05:43.000 And Trump, from 2017 to 2019, made America not only the first energy independent for the first time since Nixon signed the mandate with expanding fracking and getting natural gas, But you guys, despite Donald Trump being a climate denier, he made the US lead the world in reducing their emissions.

00:06:00.000 And so you're achieving environmental goals whilst also making it so that you're insulated from geopolitical conflict.

00:06:06.000 Of course, the uniparty types that wanted to sell all of your strategic reserves to Sinopec couldn't have that.

00:06:12.000 And so if Trump were back, the UK would be absolutely benefiting, but they're doing their best not to.

00:06:17.000 I think a lot of us would be benefiting from it.

00:06:19.000 One thing I find fascinating, you mentioned climate change, the fact that Trump is a climate denier. 0.92

00:06:23.000 This is one of the most ridiculous phrases that you hear thrown around politically.

00:06:26.000 A person can be totally accepting of every single thing that's even supposedly in the scientific consensus surrounding climate change, but if they're not an alarmist who says the world is going to end in 12 years, and then says that again in 12 years when the prophecy doesn't come true, then they're a total climate denier and we have to disregard everything they say.

00:06:41.000 There's a sleight of hand that frequently occurs where they'll say something like 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are having some effect on global temperatures or climate, and they will use that to suggest that 97% of climate scientists say that we have catastrophic climate change that is going to kill us in 10 years if we don't pass the Green New Deal.

00:07:00.000 It's ridiculous.

00:07:01.000 But it's also interesting to get back to the topic after I've pontificated on that, to just consider the way Trump is viewed in Europe, and I'm curious what the view of the average English person is.

00:07:12.000 It doesn't surprise me that your establishment doesn't like him because he's very anti-establishment, but like, on the ground, when you're just dealing with everyday average people, what's the general feeling about him?

00:07:21.000 And also, is this kind of thing talked about?

00:07:23.000 The legal scandals here, January 6th, whether it was an insurrection, etc.

00:07:27.000 They're talked about peripherally, it depends on if a person watches mainstream news or not.

00:07:31.000 If they watch the BBC, just because, and I don't wish to disparage my own mother, she's lovely and she supports my career, but if you're turning on the TV and you go on autopilot, you might see the 60 second news bulletin that says President Trump has been indicted again, or or the January 6th committee has declared him guilty or

00:07:47.000 whatever.

00:07:47.000 Lots of people will find his rhetoric bombastic just because of British manners.

00:07:52.000 It's kind of outside of our norm.

00:07:54.000 But I think like pretty much all rhetoric is bombastic compared to British manners, no?

00:07:58.000 Well, sort of actually.

00:08:00.000 To be fair, I've seen lots of Americans really enjoy our House of Commons debates because we do deliberately insult each other at this badge box.

00:08:07.000 Though it's still bread and circuses because they both agree on the same policies at all times.

00:08:11.000 If you examine the Conservative and Labour parties, it's the Michael Malice phrase, conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit.

00:08:16.000 Well, you know, both parties just flooring it right now, but not to wander off topic.

00:08:21.000 Lots of the British public I think lots of them like Trump's character just because he's kind of funny and how he sticks it to the establishment in the same way that they liked Nigel Farage and Brexit.

00:08:32.000 Nigel Farage got about 4 million votes the last time he ran and didn't get a seat because of our electoral system.

00:08:37.000 But lots of the British public was so fed up with the capital P progressive unidirectional narrative that Tony Blair in the 1990s said was as inevitable as the changing of the seasons that they really just wanted to stick it to the establishment.

00:08:48.000 And this is why they voted Boris eventually in 2019.

00:08:51.000 Unfortunately that didn't pan out very well because he ended up being a progressive as well, but he won a stonking majority because people thought he was a bit like a British Trump, you know, a sort of foul-mouthed guy who was dragged backwards through Eton.

00:09:01.000 He thought he'd be on their side.

00:09:03.000 And so the perception of Trump is basically, if you watch the mainstream news, you're not going to like him because you think he's rude and bombastic and he overthrew his democracy.

00:09:11.000 If not, you're going to think of him similar to Brexit, of, these people aren't acting in my interest and I will take a stick of dynamite to tear it all asunder, than another sort of polite, nodding establishment figure like a Mitt Romney or something.

00:09:23.000 I think so many Americans feel sort of similarly.

00:09:25.000 They actually like Trump's energy.

00:09:28.000 It is appealing to them.

00:09:29.000 He is a fresh of fresh air.

00:09:31.000 That's why these campaigns to get him indicted on literally anything, to have the headline always be

00:09:37.000 Trump charged, Trump investigated, Trump you know whatever to make him look bad is so important

00:09:41.000 because so much of the public and I'm sure it's true across the ocean just read the headline right.

00:09:46.000 They'll never go into the details of what's being said.

00:09:49.000 They just want to string enough words together to scare you away from inquiring further.

00:09:54.000 And that's sort of what's toxic about our news cycle.

00:09:57.000 You know one of the most powerful moments of the campaign this year for me has been Trump on stage

00:10:02.000 at town hall refuting everything that was brought against him with the Eugene Carroll case and it was

00:10:07.000 hilarious.

00:10:07.000 I mean, he's a comedian.

00:10:09.000 It's so funny.

00:10:10.000 And also calm and logical.

00:10:12.000 And it's not, you know, this terrible, ugly speech.

00:10:18.000 It's just like, I own the plaza across the street.

00:10:21.000 Why would any of this have happened?

00:10:23.000 Well, that's exactly right.

00:10:25.000 And so here's one of the things about Donald Trump that I think is often overlooked and one of the probably most unfair characterizations you'll see of him.

00:10:31.000 Of course, he's going to be compared to a fascist because they compare everyone they don't like to a fascist.

00:10:35.000 But his speeches are the most anti-fascistic style speeches you're ever going to hear.

00:10:41.000 A fascist leader gets up in front of the people.

00:10:43.000 He's extremely serious.

00:10:44.000 He's extremely strong.

00:10:45.000 It's not time for joking around.

00:10:46.000 It's time for business.

00:10:47.000 Trump just goes up there and he riffs and he's hilarious and everyone has a great time.

00:10:53.000 And part of what was so beautiful about that CNN town hall was the fact that this woman was speaking to him and literally positioning herself as the anti-fun person.

00:11:04.000 This is a CNN town hall.

00:11:06.000 This audience was not selected because they love Donald Trump and even they were cracking up and having a great time because of his delivery and his performance.

00:11:13.000 No, you can sit there and say, I don't want that in a leader, I don't want someone who cracks jokes, I don't want someone who has that kind of charisma.

00:11:19.000 Sure, whatever.

00:11:20.000 That's not what I'm trying to address here.

00:11:21.000 But my point is, the media will play clips of him, and then criticize those, and even then they don't end up looking that great.

00:11:29.000 Attempting to criticize him in person, on stage, When the people in the audience are on his side, is the worst possible optics.

00:11:36.000 Because everyone's having a great time and laughing, and CNN is there going, no, stop, stop having fun, you need to stop having fun, stop having fun, right now.

00:11:43.000 And they ended up cutting it early because of that.

00:11:45.000 Caitlin Collins, is that who you're talking about?

00:11:47.000 I believe so.

00:11:48.000 She's an interesting person, and I don't want to ad hominem on that girl too much, because, but I just noticed... I'm not ad hominem, I'm just saying it was very... I'm about to, so I'm just saying beforehand I don't want to, but I'm going to.

00:11:58.000 I like her, but, I mean, I like what she's doing, I'm glad she's out there, but, like, her smile, she's got, like, I don't know if she got work done on her face, but the sides of her mouth are, like, up in a smile, but everything about her face shows misery.

00:12:10.000 Doesn't smile behind the eyes.

00:12:11.000 Yeah!

00:12:11.000 There's lots of people like that in media.

00:12:13.000 Yeah.

00:12:14.000 It's a sort of, I don't want to psychoanalyse or step outside my limits, telltale sign of psychopathy.

00:12:19.000 Yeah, I was just going to say that.

00:12:20.000 I'm not going to speak to her condition specifically, but that is something you'll notice.

00:12:24.000 Many such cases.

00:12:25.000 Exactly.

00:12:26.000 And that's why it makes sense that there are so many people in the media who have that kind of face.

00:12:29.000 And that is Hillary Clinton's face, right?

00:12:31.000 I mean, she's very much got that phony smile.

00:12:34.000 And this is something about Donald Trump that a lot of people Appreciate, I think even people who don't agree with him policy-wise will usually acknowledge is a good thing.

00:12:43.000 Somebody like Hillary Clinton, right? 0.92

00:12:45.000 She's a person who follows every single one of the rules and conventions necessary to create good optics for oneself and be considered a conventional political leader who could be tenable to the American people and the establishment. 0.77

00:12:56.000 But behind closed doors and behind the scenes, we all know she's unbearably corrupt.

00:13:01.000 Donald Trump, on the other hand, follows none of the rules, none of the social conventions surrounding the way political leaders are supposed to speak and act in this country.

00:13:09.000 And yet, relative to basically every establishment political leader in this country, and especially Hillary Clinton, he's squeaky clean.

00:13:16.000 This is not something I would have said about him back in 2016, by the way.

00:13:19.000 I wouldn't vouch for the guy at that time.

00:13:21.000 When the Russia stuff first came up, I was unsure if it was true or not.

00:13:24.000 But as they continued to investigate, and it continued to become apparent that it was a nothing burger, and they'd spent years trying to nail him on anything they could with all of these random investigations, and they found nothing, it became obvious that this guy was way cleaner than I ever thought he was to begin with!

00:13:37.000 If I can just pick up on two things there.

00:13:39.000 The first thing is how he presents himself optically.

00:13:43.000 I don't want to say it's a tactic, but it's something I've learned is very useful for when you do mainstream television, because it's very different to the sort of relaxed, long-form stuff that you guys do here and we do over at Lotus Eaters.

00:13:52.000 And that is, most of the time, people will just want to monologue in their little sectioned box, and they want to say their piece, and they're not actually addressing you if you're on a debate panel with someone.

00:14:00.000 They're just trying to win the audience over.

00:14:02.000 What Trump does is he breaks the fourth wall.

00:14:03.000 He shows that the emperor has no clothes.

00:14:05.000 He routinely says, okay, this is how they're framing something, this is how they're trying to make me look bad.

00:14:10.000 When I've done that on air before, if someone isn't addressing my point, I'll just say to the audience, oh, just so you guys know, you're not going to answer my question.

00:14:16.000 That's it.

00:14:16.000 Just so everyone can see, you're just going to dodge it and you're going to come up with your pre-scripted talking points.

00:14:20.000 And it shows the disingenuity of the establishment.

00:14:22.000 And that connects to the fact of, and this is why they say certain things are beyond debate, or they say certain things are threats to democracy, or the uniparty agrees on both policies.

00:14:29.000 There's a German legal theorist that I know James Lindsay is not a fan of, as he has had a go at me on Twitter this week, Carl Schmitt.

00:14:36.000 Now, let me declare, I disavow his mid-century German allegiances later on, but before he joined the party that we will not name, he recognised that things like liberalism and technology are depoliticising forces, and he defined political as the friend-enemy distinction.

00:14:52.000 There is a group of people that are against your end-stated goals, and there is a group of people that are for it, and even though you might have a common enemy at a time when the enemy is vanquished, are we rebuilding the same society?

00:15:02.000 And the depoliticising force, it eliminates, it mires things in debate, and it says certain things are beyond debate, and so it stigmatises certain perspectives.

00:15:10.000 And actually that smuggles in the existential threat.

00:15:12.000 So that would be like the fall of the republic.

00:15:14.000 So the wheels are still spinning, the oligarchs are still profiting, and in the background the forces of entropy are setting on your country and tearing it apart.

00:15:20.000 And that's what I think people felt when they voted for Donald Trump.

00:15:22.000 They felt that the establishment had ring-fenced off certain things, like the global offshoring of manufacturing to leave the country behind, the hollowing out of the social texture of the United States, where we're all just squabbling over equality and forgetting about the capital C creator in the Bill of Rights.

00:15:36.000 And because those things were beyond reproach, it didn't not have human consequences.

00:15:40.000 And they saw this man as a repoliticizing force.

00:15:42.000 They're going to speak to us, his friends, against our enemies.

00:15:45.000 He is pointing out the depoliticizing framing, and he's hammering them on it.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, I think social media censorship was also a technological squishing of civil rights.

00:15:58.000 Who has the right to tell me I can't say what I want on the internet?

00:16:02.000 Just because it's owned by a private company?

00:16:06.000 No, no, no.

00:16:08.000 I agree with you.

00:16:08.000 The technology is way beyond politics and it can take things like a snowball down a hill.

00:16:15.000 For good or evil, I understand, or for good or bad, whether or not it's good that we had someone come in and start saying, he's a bad guy, he's a bad guy, I'm a good guy.

00:16:23.000 It is polarizing, but maybe people just craved it subconsciously because we've been in this bubble of allowing these corporations to take control.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, well no, I think there's some truth in that and also say I think the primary reason why people want this friend-enemy distinction is because in reality you do have friends and you do have enemies and there is such a thing as good and evil and for a very long time what evil has done is attempted to blur the lines between the two so that it could ultimately redefine them.

00:16:48.000 There's no such thing as good.

00:16:49.000 There's no such thing as bad.

00:16:50.000 It's all one thing, and then once people are confused enough, they start to tell you that the good things are bad and the bad things are good.

00:16:56.000 And speaking of that, abortion is once again legal in Iowa.

00:17:02.000 Just two days after an abortion ban at six weeks was signed into law, a judge has just struck down these restrictions, and I really should call them protections because they're protections of the unborn, And abortion is now legal up to 20 weeks in Iowa.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, Iowa's a really interesting case because you're seeing this live battle play out.

00:17:24.000 I mean, when Governor Kim Reynolds went to sign this new legislation, which successfully passed the Republican-held House after a special session, there was a judge saying, you know, I am actively in the middle of a challenge on this and I can't, it would be flippant of me to rule on this without giving it consideration.

00:17:43.000 So that law went into effect on Friday and he came out early this week and said, you

00:17:47.000 know, actually we can't go forward with this.

00:17:49.000 We're going to revert back to our 20-week ban on abortion.

00:17:53.000 The legislation in question is a six-week ban.

00:17:55.000 There are certain exceptions for rape, incest, fetal viability if it's in question or if

00:18:03.000 they couldn't survive outside the womb, and mother's health.

00:18:06.000 What I find interesting is you're seeing Iowa itself split apart.

00:18:10.000 And of course for us, Iowa's significant because it's an early primary state.

00:18:15.000 What happens in Iowa, especially during election cycle, is often viewed as a magnifying glass on the rest of the country.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, no, I agree, and I think we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:18:25.000 There's going to be a massive clash there.

00:18:27.000 I'm curious to hear your perspective on this.

00:18:29.000 Once again, as somebody coming over here from England, what are the laws and social conventions like surrounding abortion?

00:18:35.000 One thing you hear all the time from American progressives is that we are just this backwards, far-right Theocratic nation relative to the enlightened Europeans who just let anything that the progressives want happen.

00:18:47.000 But especially prior to Roe, if you actually looked at abortion laws in Europe, you would find that many of them were actually more strict than the laws that you would have, especially in blue states in the U.S.

00:18:58.000 I am sorry to rain on your parade a little bit.

00:19:01.000 That's not the case in how it plays out in England.

00:19:03.000 Oh no!

00:19:04.000 The English case is, legally it's 24 weeks, other than if you can have a health example that can justify it going further.

00:19:12.000 Can I just interject to ask one question?

00:19:13.000 When you say health example, so in the United States, like for example, there are certain blue states where like up until the point of birth, which is why I'm saying that it that's so much harsher than what you have in Europe.

00:19:13.000 Yes.

00:19:21.000 But what I want to ask you about with this legal exception for the case of the life of the mother, one thing that happens in the US is they will use things like depression or a poor mental health outcome to justify that.

00:19:31.000 Is it the same?

00:19:32.000 It's exactly the same in England.

00:19:33.000 Yeah, we have far fewer abortions in the United States as a proportion of population as well, but it still does happen.

00:19:41.000 And abortion in the UK is unfortunately one of those things that's just declared beyond reproach.

00:19:44.000 I was once called anti-English because I was against abortion because it's just been settled law for how long?

00:19:50.000 Anti-English, huh? 0.80

00:19:51.000 So now I want English babies aborted. 1.00

00:19:51.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:19:52.000 Yeah, I know, yeah.

00:19:53.000 Radical position, I suppose.

00:19:55.000 One of the disturbing things that's happened, and this has happened both because of the rising prominence in the polls of the Labour Party after their stinking defeat in 2019.

00:20:03.000 They're now getting a bit more bold, because they know they're probably going to win the next election anyway.

00:20:07.000 And after the UNAIDS principles, which I don't know if you guys know about?

00:20:11.000 No.

00:20:12.000 Okay, I'll explain that in a minute because it's a really dark rabbit hole.

00:20:15.000 But we recently had a debate in Parliament among the MPs, this isn't tabled legislation yet, but about a right to an abortion in a British Bill of Rights that is being drafted after Brexit.

00:20:25.000 And Stella Creasy, who is a Labour MP, she sits on the Women's Council, she had gone from, I think it was two years ago, bringing her infant into the House of Commons, even though they have daycare, which I'm against, but she could have put it in the creche in time.

00:20:39.000 She made a deliberate point to bring the baby in, went from that to arguing to no restrictions on abortion and a right to abortion codified within the British Bill of Rights in law.

00:20:47.000 And so they're getting pretty bold for that.

00:20:49.000 And one of the reasons I think this is the case It's because the UN, on International Women's Day this March, put out their 21 AIDS principles to govern sexual health, drug law, things like that.

00:21:00.000 And among these things were abortion up until the point of birth has absolutely no restrictions for all member states.

00:21:07.000 Downstream from that, it was the decriminalization of all drugs, including... Who was the fellow from... Was it Lance from the Serfs?

00:21:14.000 Yeah, that's the UN's position now.

00:21:15.000 You should be able to take drugs and suffer no penalties while you're pregnant. 0.99

00:21:19.000 All gender-affirming care for all ages.

00:21:22.000 And they also said that there are some cases where children may be mature enough to consent. 0.98

00:21:27.000 Disgusting. 1.00

00:21:29.000 And so this is something that is coming for most countries, probably in Europe as well. 0.93

00:21:34.000 That's the case in the UK.

00:21:35.000 How does British law work?

00:21:36.000 If you're talking about like York, Northumberland, do they have their own sets of rights, like state rights?

00:21:40.000 No, no, no.

00:21:41.000 It's all centralized.

00:21:42.000 It's just national to the country.

00:21:44.000 Is that also like federal police everywhere?

00:21:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:47.000 So we have the Met Police in London, who operate from a slightly different commissioner.

00:21:51.000 I think each area has commissioners, but central to the government, they can set general policing law.

00:21:56.000 The police in England are mad as well.

00:21:58.000 I nearly got arrested last year outside a Conservative Party conference.

00:22:01.000 There was a video that did the rounds.

00:22:04.000 What ended up happening was I went outside to film a street preacher who was arguing with some young girls who were arguing in favour of abortion just outside the secure zone.

00:22:12.000 And I was filming it and a local journalist came up to me and said, what do you think of this?

00:22:15.000 And I went, I've just arrived on scene, what's even happening?

00:22:17.000 And she said, this gentleman here is saying that the LGBTQ plus community are unnatural, according to scripture.

00:22:22.000 And I said, right, well, I haven't heard any of this, but You know, I've just been speaking to the LGB Alliance guys, and they separate sexuality and gender, so that's part of the debate you have to parcel out.

00:22:30.000 And the TQ Plus might be harbinging something more insidious.

00:22:34.000 And I said, have you heard of Gail Rubin?

00:22:35.000 And before I finished my thought, an inspector who had been bussed in from Kent to Birmingham, which is, you know, Kent's the south, Birmingham's the north, that's where the conference was, ran up to me, waved his finger in my face, he had to go on his tiptoes because he's rather short, And he said to me, right, if you continue this conversation I'm warning you, I will arrest you under the Public Order Offence Bill because you have insulted this woman's sexuality.

00:22:54.000 Because he'd overheard the word insidious, not overheard the conversation properly.

00:22:57.000 And he just said, do you understand what I'm saying?

00:22:58.000 And when I tried to clarify and ask questions, he said, this is not about questioning, I'm telling you what's happening here.

00:23:04.000 I got surrounded by ten other police officers, arms folded, riddled to tackle me, and one guy had a shoulder-mounted camera recording the entire thing.

00:23:10.000 And what they do in the UK is, if you are reported for, like, an offence, but it's not a criminal offence, You'll be registered on the non-crime-hate-incident registry, which means there's a black mark against your name that you never know exists, and if employers do a background check on you, even if you've been criminally charged, that will come up, and you will be turned down for jobs without ever knowing it.

00:23:27.000 So I had to rely on a lovely gentleman by the name of Harry Miller, he used to work for Faircop, now Bad Law Project, and he got confirmation that I wasn't on that registry, we filed a complaint to the police, but it went nowhere because they protect their own.

00:23:39.000 And so, yeah, England's undoubtedly a very progressive-captured country.

00:23:44.000 Can I ask you, do you feel like there's a cultural difference in the different regions, like Northern England has a different attitude towards these things than maybe the South?

00:23:52.000 Because that's what I feel is at least the stereotype in America, that we're very regionally divided.

00:23:58.000 You'll hear West Coast versus, you know, conservative Texas, perhaps.

00:24:01.000 We have something called the Red Wall in England, and that was created because when Margaret Thatcher was in power, she decided to disband industries that she thought were defunct, mainly things like coal mining.

00:24:11.000 And they had been long-standing sources of community wealth and generational prosperity for years, even though they weren't generating as much.

00:24:17.000 And when she ripped that out, she did a lot of battle with the unions as well, and so that's made them more union-ish, and so they voted Labour as a part of their identity.

00:24:26.000 She didn't really replace it with anything, and so up north, there's a bit of north-south antagonism.

00:24:31.000 We call them Northern Monkeys, they call us Southern Poofters, and we get along with a bit of solidarity against any other country that wants to try their luck.

00:24:39.000 But they have resentment of the South, because they see politics as too centralised in the South, and they see it as what left them behind.

00:24:45.000 And this was the big difference of Boris Johnson in 2019 as well.

00:24:48.000 Because the North overwhelmingly voted for Brexit, thinking that we're sending too much money over to the European Union, it could be reinvested here.

00:24:53.000 And Boris Johnson said, right, if you guys lend me your vote, I'll do that.

00:24:55.000 I'll do a programme called levelling up, which basically means you'll get new rail infrastructure, you'll get new job opportunities, we'll do regional investment.

00:25:00.000 And the Northerners voted for him and then they voted obviously for Boris because they liked him on character, you know, he used to be the London Mayor, he got stuck on a zipline, he'd wave little flags, he was like Mr Bean, you know, people thought he was fun.

00:25:10.000 Then Covid hit, lockdowns happened, we were imprisoned in our home for multiple years and Boris, who professed to be a libertarian, squandered all the money away on that and then started partying while we were all locked in our homes and that all got leaked and it was a big scandal.

00:25:21.000 I've heard about this, the League of Political Leaders partying in England.

00:25:24.000 What is the fallout from that, Ben?

00:25:26.000 Boris Johnson got scapegoated from it.

00:25:28.000 Matt Hancock, who was the health secretary, who was having an affair with one of his aides at the time, that was called CCTV, he lost his job.

00:25:35.000 He really needed to social distance.

00:25:37.000 Well, yeah, I mean, if anyone ever sees a photo of Matt Hancock, I feel deeply ashamed, because he was doing better with his love life under lockdown than I do, and he is not a good-looking bloke.

00:25:47.000 But he hasn't lost his place in the party.

00:25:49.000 Boris Johnson's basically just been kicked out of the Commons, his seat is up for re-election.

00:25:53.000 One of the GB News hosts, Lawrence Fox, is currently running in that, so I wish him luck.

00:25:56.000 But he really was the scapegoat.

00:25:58.000 I mean, they said everything was his fault, and I feel like, from my observational standpoint, the party sort of let him pay for their sins.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, take the fall.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, and all of the health executives that got all the calls wrong got knighthoods.

00:26:11.000 Gavin Williamson, he was the education secretary who repeatedly locked down schools, but despite it being campaigned not to, he resigned from his post for a particular reason that doesn't come to mind right now, but he resigned in disgrace and then got a knighthood from it.

00:26:23.000 It's like they're just buying people's silence.

00:26:26.000 What's the knighthood do?

00:26:28.000 It's just a title which confers upon you the sort of you have been endorsed by the regime.

00:26:33.000 It's honorific.

00:26:33.000 Do you get money for it or anything?

00:26:35.000 Are you stipend?

00:26:36.000 No, no, I don't think you get any stipend. 0.95

00:26:37.000 Can you like kick people off of their land or any of that crap?

00:26:39.000 No, I don't think you get any stipend.

00:26:40.000 But it's basically like a Rishi- You gotta be a bureaucrat to do that.

00:26:44.000 Yeah. And that's the funny thing as well.

00:26:46.000 Boris kept trying to appoint his dad a member of the House of Lords repeatedly.

00:26:50.000 And Rishi Sunak shut that down.

00:26:52.000 But that's absolutely to your point.

00:26:54.000 Rishi Sunak is the Prime Minister right now. He wasn't elected.

00:26:56.000 When Boris went, the members chose Liz Truss.

00:26:59.000 Now, Liz Truss is dim as a two-watt bulb. 0.99

00:27:01.000 She's not great, but she was too dumb to be on side of the global project. 1.00

00:27:06.000 What we have is a bit of a split in the Conservative Party right now. 0.99

00:27:08.000 We have the neocons.

00:27:09.000 They both share goals on Ukraine, but for different reasons.

00:27:11.000 The neocons are more Cold War.

00:27:13.000 The global faction are more like, we want to line BlackRock's pockets.

00:27:16.000 Liz Truss was firmly in the neocon camp.

00:27:18.000 And she wanted to minorly cut taxes, right? 0.98

00:27:22.000 Rishi Sunak was a tax-and-spend guy.

00:27:23.000 He was the guy that printed all the money as the Chancellor during COVID.

00:27:26.000 He did the equivalent to stimulus packages.

00:27:29.000 It's bankrupted the country, but they've spun the narrative as to where it's only Ukraine and the pandemic.

00:27:33.000 It wasn't Rishi Sunak's fault.

00:27:34.000 The members voted for Liz Truss, overwhelmingly.

00:27:36.000 Liz Truss gets in, and she is the shortest-serving Prime Minister in history, because she wants to do a 1% tax cut. 0.91

00:27:42.000 And she announced it on a Monday.

00:27:44.000 The Bank of England published the sort of stats on the gilt market on the Friday and the news didn't hit till the Monday and it coincided with the fact the Bank of England realized they'd run out of money.

00:27:52.000 So they used Liz Truss's policy as a scapegoat and we know this because like Rishi Senak immediately started spending more money and this suddenly wasn't going to break the market.

00:28:00.000 How weird!

00:28:01.000 And so they got their man in.

00:28:02.000 They got him in by the back door despite him being utterly implicit in the parties and the economic damage done under the pandemic.

00:28:08.000 And so unfortunately the British political system's kind of just wreaked But you said that you think he'll get elected.

00:28:13.000 You think the British public has embraced him?

00:28:15.000 What, Richard Sinek?

00:28:16.000 No, no, he'll lose.

00:28:17.000 He'll lose, absolutely.

00:28:18.000 Who do you think's going to win?

00:28:19.000 It'll be Keir Starmer, the Labour Party.

00:28:20.000 But the interesting thing, and Matt Goodwin is a pretty good academic from my former university who's looked at this, six in ten of people that voted for Boris, that includes those Red Wall people who traditionally voted Labour, flipped to Conservative, they feel so disenfranchised they're just not voting.

00:28:32.000 Because for the last 15 years, we've voted consistently for lowered immigration.

00:28:36.000 Last year, under Boris Johnson, it hit net 1.1 million plus illegals, and the rate at which the illegal immigration is going up.

00:28:43.000 By 2024, we're going to have more people crossing the Channel and filling up UK hotels than British men stormed the beaches of Normandy at D-Day.

00:28:51.000 My goodness.

00:28:51.000 So yeah, this is bad.

00:28:53.000 They've had all their promises broken, and so they've just decided, right, we're not flipping our votes, there's no alternatives, so we're just not voting.

00:28:59.000 And so Labour are going to win by default, even though they've been utterly incompetent.

00:29:01.000 Yeah, so one thing I'd also like to ask you about is, you know, I can't imagine the British media is too different from American media with respect to the way the border issue is addressed, or really not addressed, right?

00:29:13.000 The question is always of, are we being nice enough to people who entered our country illegally and not, should we have borders? 0.91

00:29:20.000 So I'm curious what some of the rhetoric surrounding that has been, differences, similarities, or if it's just kind of the same garbage that we get here.

00:29:27.000 It's similar.

00:29:28.000 You'd think it would be different because we're an island, so naturally we don't have any connecting borders with countries.

00:29:34.000 It's often about our obligation to take in quote-unquote refugees, but all of the people coming across are coming from France.

00:29:40.000 Now, I'd flee France too, you know, it's horrible.

00:29:43.000 But loads of the so-called economic migrants, I mean for quite a while last year it was all Albanians.

00:29:47.000 Now Albania is not a country at war.

00:29:51.000 They voted in the socialist government, so economic downturn is there, but they were being trafficked by people smuggling gangs.

00:29:56.000 And then they had an Albania Day celebration where they drove very flash cars around Parliament Square and draped Winston Churchill's statue in the Albanian flag.

00:30:06.000 So it was almost like a Yeah, display of colonialism, exactly.

00:30:10.000 So they've broken a deal recently, the Albanian government, so they've stopped coming, but we're still getting loads of people from the migrant camps in Calais from Afghanistan and North Africa and things like that.

00:30:18.000 And lots of the conversation, this is mainly the Labour Party's policy, it's going to be how do we create safe and legal routes for these people.

00:30:24.000 It's never, they shouldn't be here in the first place because they don't have a legitimate asylum claim. 0.99

00:30:27.000 It's like, right, how do we take them out from the hotels, which we're paying £7 million a day to put them up in?

00:30:33.000 And these are hotels that people would go to work to pay to stay in on holiday.

00:30:37.000 How do we move from that to just dropping them in the economy?

00:30:40.000 Because we want GDP line go up.

00:30:41.000 That's it.

00:30:42.000 Well, speaking of illegal border crossings, a U.S.

00:30:46.000 soldier crossed into North Korea willfully and without authorization.

00:30:51.000 So a United States soldier was in custody, actually, in South Korea, in a prison.

00:30:58.000 He'd been held on assault charges and was facing additional Military discipline and he was escorted to the airport, but instead of getting on his flight.

00:31:06.000 He basically ran away He joined a tour group with a group of civilians who were going near the border.

00:31:12.000 He escaped that tour group He ran into North Korea and of course this creates a massive diplomatic problem You know the United States and North Korea are not in contact with one another But of course the United States government is going to want to get this guy back What could he have done that was so bad that he thought he would be better off in North Korea?

00:31:31.000 Yeah.

00:31:31.000 Maybe he thought every woman looked like Yomi Park and he thought he'd take his chances.

00:31:34.000 Something like that.

00:31:36.000 I just, I can't imagine.

00:31:37.000 I mean, it's wild.

00:31:38.000 It's insanely dangerous.

00:31:40.000 Guy must not have been thinking.

00:31:41.000 Was he drunk?

00:31:42.000 What's going on?

00:31:42.000 Early 20s.

00:31:43.000 I wonder now if North Korea is going to be like, it's great that you're here.

00:31:47.000 Just tell us about your job.

00:31:48.000 Oh, for sure.

00:31:49.000 Let's hear what's going on.

00:31:50.000 You know, they are being very mean to you, that American military.

00:31:53.000 We don't like that at all.

00:31:54.000 Actually, Ian just raised a perfect point.

00:31:56.000 Early 20s.

00:31:56.000 I do think that might factor in because there's a lot of danger tourism.

00:31:59.000 Like, one of the guys that we work with in Lois's office, Callum, went over to Afghanistan.

00:32:05.000 So, just nodding his head.

00:32:06.000 He went over with Lord Miles.

00:32:08.000 And I don't know if anyone knows, but there was an update from the Taliban today of Lord Miles is still being very politely, very securely, very friendly held by the Taliban.

00:32:17.000 Yeah, so this might be a sort of danger tourism thing of where he's going.

00:32:20.000 Well, this looks like a crazy place nobody's been to.

00:32:22.000 Maybe I'll try my luck.

00:32:23.000 I mean, to that to that end, we should point out that Otto Warmbier was the last high profile, at least he's not the most recent American to have gone over, but he was a college student.

00:32:34.000 He had gone over because he wanted to see the world.

00:32:35.000 He wanted to be interesting.

00:32:37.000 And apparently he stole a poster and got held for years and years and ended up dying shortly after Trump negotiated his return.

00:32:44.000 I think that he said he, someone in his church group claimed that if he brought something back that they would give him a car, something wild like that.

00:32:52.000 Sure.

00:32:53.000 Yeah, so the dude was sentenced to 10 years hard labor, if I'm not mistaken.

00:32:56.000 That might not have been exactly, but he ended up dying before we could get him back.

00:32:59.000 Yeah, they said it was botulism that killed him, but then there are reports, actually there was a North Korean defected, spy defect, that had defected away from North Korea that said he was killed on, he was poisoned.

00:33:09.000 I mean, he spent a long time In a coma, according to North Korea, which they just never updated anyone on.

00:33:16.000 I mean, this is a complete tragedy.

00:33:19.000 It's a very sad story.

00:33:20.000 I don't mean to make light of it, but this idea that we would have young men who think, oh, well, I'll just go to North Korea.

00:33:27.000 I mean, I don't think that was necessarily Otto's motivation.

00:33:30.000 I think there's probably something, you know, very masculine and very real about wanting to see dangerous places.

00:33:38.000 With this American soldier, I really think we have to question what is going on where you think running across the border to North Korea is your answer, right?

00:33:47.000 Part of the issue is America being on the world stage now, not having President Trump in office, not having the same strong but slightly strange relationship with little rocket man Kim Jong-un.

00:33:57.000 How are you going to get him back?

00:33:59.000 There's no bargaining power to get this guy and any of the secrets that he might know.

00:34:04.000 That's a pretty precarious situation to be in.

00:34:06.000 Because initially when this story broke, I thought, you know, what is so bad that North Korea is the answer? 1.00

00:34:11.000 But now, you know, you may be able to live a nice life where North Korea says thank you for all this information for as long as they're willing to tolerate you, right?

00:34:18.000 I mean, it's a very bizarre story.

00:34:21.000 I have never been in a position where I think I'd be better off in North Korea. 0.87

00:34:24.000 I'll just flee to North Korea. 0.96

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:26.000 It's actually pretty concerning on the macro scale, like, that an American soldier would defect to North Korea of all places.

00:34:32.000 That's really kind of freakish.

00:34:33.000 That is very freakish.

00:34:34.000 What kind of lack of faith you would have in your military to do that to North Korea?

00:34:38.000 You know, it hasn't before.

00:34:39.000 It hasn't before.

00:34:40.000 Has it?

00:34:41.000 Is there people fleeing charges like this?

00:34:41.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:34:43.000 This guy was gonna get charged with assault?

00:34:45.000 No, I don't think it's fleeing charges.

00:34:46.000 It's just people that have left the military and crossed the border and then have been joined.

00:34:49.000 They use them for, I forget his name, Ken, something like that.

00:34:52.000 They use him for propaganda purposes.

00:34:53.000 For movies, right?

00:34:54.000 I guess.

00:34:55.000 Yeah, he was a big movie star.

00:34:56.000 Anywhere you won't be extradited from, it's somewhere like North Korea.

00:34:59.000 Yeah, very true.

00:35:00.000 Yeah, I don't know, you'd think people would cross that border more often since socialism works so well, you know?

00:35:05.000 It's actually interesting.

00:35:06.000 Maybe that's it!

00:35:06.000 Maybe he's just so young that he was like, I don't like the American military anymore and I really think socialism is it, so I'll just head on over.

00:35:13.000 Well, I'm looking for places to be refugees too because I was talking to you guys about this off-air.

00:35:18.000 The UK government at the moment is passing something called the online safety bill.

00:35:22.000 They used to call it the online harms bill, so you know.

00:35:24.000 Always, always.

00:35:25.000 The Loving Kittens and Puppies Act.

00:35:26.000 And basically what it means is that it puts the UK government's arbitration body for television media that stipulates you have to be unbiased, unless you're left-wing, which you can get away with it, in charge of every internet broadcast show.

00:35:38.000 So if you guys were broadcasting from the UK, not just streaming in the UK, then you would have to have, I don't know, like Vaush on all the time as a guest to balance it out.

00:35:47.000 And it would just derail the conversation on whatever topics you were doing.

00:35:50.000 And so, like, our show won't operate, especially because, as well, the possible new Prime Minister wants to criminalise misgendering.

00:35:55.000 So it's like, am I going to be, I don't know, crashing on a couch in Tennessee in, like, a year's time?

00:35:59.000 Who knows?

00:36:00.000 I mean, North Korea's looking real sunny this time of year.

00:36:03.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously they're not going to be the kind of political freedom you're looking for, but I hear you.

00:36:06.000 England is very scary right now, and this is something that a lot of progressives neglect to acknowledge very conveniently when they talk about the kind of draconian speech codes that they want to impose socially.

00:36:15.000 So they'll say things like, well, these social media companies might be censoring people, but it's done privately.

00:36:21.000 Political correctness or woke-ism aren't real problems because it's all about just being polite and being a different, excuse me, respectful and decent person.

00:36:30.000 Of course, in Europe, people are actually prosecuted for saying things that challenge the regime, that are considered, you know, offensive, that are harmful and, you know, quote-unquote, damaging to the LGBTQ community.

00:36:41.000 It's easy to forget this as an American, that in the Western world, there are people who are criminally charged for saying things that fly in the face of left-wing orthodoxy.

00:36:50.000 There are people who are criminally charged for saying, effectively, men are men, and women are women, and I'm not going to call a man a woman or a woman a man.

00:36:59.000 But there are people who cheer this on, right?

00:37:01.000 You'll get people who will say, yes, you should absolutely pass that bill, because I don't want to hear these things, and I don't want other people to hear these things.

00:37:08.000 I don't even know what you're saying, but I have heard are offensive.

00:37:10.000 And that's what's the most disturbing to me, that we have a complete lack of regard for the fact that someone whose opinion is different than you might not be Hateful, right?

00:37:18.000 It's just different.

00:37:19.000 We live in a culture that breeds fear, which begets compliance, and I find that to be so disturbing.

00:37:25.000 You're allowed to hate.

00:37:26.000 I mean, in the United States, you're allowed to hate.

00:37:28.000 It's totally cool.

00:37:29.000 As long as you don't commit a crime, you can hate all you want. 0.99

00:37:31.000 I don't like this hate crime crap. 0.97

00:37:34.000 Like, what is the- how do you know if they had hate in their heart when they were saying or doing- Sorry, but like, since when did you murder someone out of love? 0.99

00:37:43.000 Even the crime of passion is hatred in the moment, so it's complete nonsensical.

00:37:46.000 We've got two pieces of legislation in the UK that really screw us over.

00:37:49.000 It's section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003.

00:37:52.000 That means that if you say anything that can be deemed, quote, grossly offensive over a digital platform, as long as they find someone who's offended by it, or even in the case of Count Dankula, they couldn't, but the Scottish government prosecuted him anyway, you can be prosecuted for saying something that offends someone.

00:38:08.000 And then we also have the Equalities Act, which creates a sort of hierarchy of protected characteristics, and the frustrating thing is, and this is why, and I don't wish to disparage some of the TERFs, even though I find the label radical feminist sends a shiver up my spine.

00:38:23.000 It should.

00:38:23.000 But they're the only good feminists in a lot of ways.

00:38:27.000 Well, my friend Mary Harrington and the reactionary feminists would seem to dissent on that point, but I don't want to get too derailed.

00:38:32.000 The feminists are using the Equality Act legislation to fight the reason that they are being prosecuted under the Equality Act. 0.99

00:38:39.000 So they just got like gender critical beliefs added to the Equality Act, but it's like you're just stacking more protected characteristics on top of each other.

00:38:46.000 So it's just going to be more absurd.

00:38:47.000 What you need to do is jettison the protected characteristics framework and have something akin to an American First Amendment.

00:38:52.000 Except we don't have a written constitution because that's kind of anathema to our country.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, you mentioned this thing also about the court system and Dankula and this case.

00:39:03.000 If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the opinion handed down that context didn't matter?

00:39:08.000 Yes.

00:39:09.000 That's unbelievable that you could have a governing legal authority, a judge, say that context doesn't matter.

00:39:15.000 He took it to pretty much every court that he could and they still wouldn't take it.

00:39:19.000 Context matters, and an example of that is jaywalking.

00:39:23.000 Of course it's illegal, but if there's a baby in the middle of the road and a car's coming, you run out in the street and grab the baby and take him to the sidewalk, you've violated the law and no one's going to prosecute you for that.

00:39:32.000 Context matters.

00:39:33.000 I don't think jaywalking's even illegal in the UK.

00:39:36.000 Wow, maybe you're the land of the free!

00:39:37.000 Yeah, it's an everyman for himself.

00:39:41.000 The interesting thing though is that we have abolished forgiveness, and Seamus will agree with me on this, when we've become a post-Christian culture, we like to pretend we're a post-religious culture, but they're just a religion without a metaphysic.

00:39:51.000 We now have a one-strike rule that brands you the Scarlet Letter forever, and the reason we do that as well is because we have met so many of our material needs that now we have moved on to the recognition economy.

00:39:51.000 That's right.

00:40:02.000 This is why there's so many information sector jobs, like social media or HR or marketing, and this is why there's an infinite number of fractionating pride flags.

00:40:12.000 People want to codify their personality type and demand that you affirm them because their unsettled screaming consciences, their anxieties, them doing something behind closed doors that they know is kind of sordid, they need you to affirm them.

00:40:25.000 Exactly.

00:40:26.000 And any time you don't, it's a transgression on their identity, and so it's akin to violence.

00:40:30.000 And that's the situation we've ended up in.

00:40:32.000 No, that's exactly what it is, and I think you put it perfectly.

00:40:34.000 They're screaming consciences.

00:40:35.000 Effectively, when they see you criticize them, and in fact, not even necessarily just when they see you criticizing them, when they just see you living and acting like a normal person, having a normal life and not engaged in the degenerate nonsense that they're engaged in, they are bothered by it because you, in that moment, are a proxy for their conscience.

00:40:51.000 They see what they could be.

00:40:53.000 So this idea that what I do behind closed doors doesn't matter.

00:40:55.000 Ah, yes, of course.

00:40:56.000 Your bedroom door has magical properties such that it totally erases the consequences of your actions from your psyche and when you go into the outside world your behavior is not modified and the way you interact with the rest of us isn't modified or effective by what you've done in there.

00:41:10.000 Yeah, you need to create that.

00:41:10.000 It's nonsense.

00:41:12.000 Whatever sort of thing you're doing as being the new societal standard so that you aren't No, I think that's the important argument for religion. 0.85

00:41:18.000 I know there are criticisms of organized religion, but having something larger than yourself means that you don't need to seek affirmation from a crowd of people or whoever's trendy right now.

00:41:25.000 snowflake is not enough if you have crippling social anxiety.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, I think that's the important argument for religion. I know there are criticisms

00:41:32.000 of organized religion, but having something larger than yourself means that you don't

00:41:36.000 need to seek affirmation from a crowd of people or whoever's trendy right now. Whoever says,

00:41:41.000 well, I know how you can feel like you're doing the right thing and we'll praise you

00:41:44.000 for doing this. Like it's such a damaging way to live your life that I am surprised

00:41:48.000 that I'm not surprised because our culture thrives on insecurity.

00:41:52.000 Uh, A- It's funny to me that they can't look themselves in the face and say, oh, I can see the cycle I'm trapped in.

00:41:59.000 I'm never good enough for this ideology that actually hates me and would be fine if I got destroyed because it betters their own agenda.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, well, and also, oh sorry, I'll let you jump in a second because I want to hear from you.

00:42:08.000 Just the way you said that, thinking about people being used as pawns to forward a political agenda, like if someone that identifies as a trans female goes into a shooting rage and then is killed by the police, it's like, oh, trans rights, you know, and it's like, what do you mean?

00:42:25.000 That's not what this is about.

00:42:26.000 They weren't given the support they needed.

00:42:28.000 The justifications become insane because we are willing to defy logic to protect certain people if they fall into

00:42:35.000 certain ideological classes.

00:42:37.000 It's totally certain. You remember Seven Victims?

00:42:39.000 Yes.

00:42:40.000 No, what's that?

00:42:40.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 So after the...

00:42:42.000 Audrey Hale.

00:42:44.000 So...

00:42:44.000 Yeah.

00:42:44.000 That's exactly what I was just thinking about, Audrey Hale.

00:42:47.000 So in Tennessee, when those Christian children were murdered by a person who identified as transgender, because they identified as transgender left-wingers who had invaded a Capitol building, I believe it was the Capitol they invaded in the state of Tennessee as well, they were saying that there were seven victims there because they considered the shooter to have been a victim.

00:43:09.000 And this is because, like, victimhood in their mind is merely a question of identity.

00:43:15.000 If you are in a victim class, everything you do is a manifestation of your victimhood, and if you're in an oppressor class, everything you do is a manifestation of your oppressiveness.

00:43:25.000 So, of course this person was a victim.

00:43:26.000 They have to be a victim.

00:43:27.000 They're always going to be a victim.

00:43:29.000 And there's glory in being a victim, right?

00:43:30.000 Yes.

00:43:31.000 Being a victim means that all of these... For them, for them.

00:43:33.000 I wouldn't say for us.

00:43:35.000 For them, being a victim means that somebody is going to champion you and give you special privileges, and I have to be more understanding because I couldn't possibly understand what you're going through and the hardships and this, that and the other.

00:43:45.000 Instead of a culture that encourages you to know yourself well, to live by strong values, they're saying just completely fall apart and then someone else will tell you when you're okay or not.

00:43:57.000 I think there's some value to equity.

00:44:00.000 Like, I'm all about equality over equity.

00:44:02.000 Like, you ever see that meme of the three people, the short guy, the medium-sized guy, and the tall guy, trying to look over a fence, and only the tall guy can see, but there's three boxes, and each of them have one box.

00:44:11.000 So the tall guy can see, the medium guy and the small guy can't see.

00:44:14.000 Or it's the other way, the medium guy and the tall guy can see, the small guy can't see.

00:44:17.000 So they say equity, and they give the boxes of the tall guy to the small guy.

00:44:20.000 And now the small guy, now they can all see.

00:44:24.000 So I understand a little bit of that, sometimes maybe, man, but not like an entire society built around kneecapping the best among us to propel those that can't.

00:44:33.000 To your example, what they're saying is the tall guy should have to kneel down and not look past the fence at all.

00:44:40.000 He's gotten to watch this baseball game for too long.

00:44:43.000 He can still see without the box, so they take his box away and give it to someone else.

00:44:47.000 And what I'm saying is, they're saying that's not enough.

00:44:50.000 Hold on, but this is also really important because a lot of people fail to recognize this.

00:44:54.000 Even if you want to buy into this worldview, you have to be given exactly what they need in order to be equal to other people.

00:45:01.000 How on earth do you have any idea what it is about a person that makes them unequal to other people?

00:45:05.000 How could you possibly say you have an answer to that question?

00:45:07.000 People are unbelievably complex and intricate.

00:45:09.000 The idea that you could just, like, rearrange material reality to the point where everyone's on an equal playing field is complete nonsense.

00:45:14.000 It's totally insane.

00:45:15.000 And in the United States, all men are born created equal.

00:45:17.000 Like, that's implicit.

00:45:20.000 You're just jealous because we left your country.

00:45:20.000 Well, we're not all the same.

00:45:22.000 We're not all the same, but we're gonna look where it's going.

00:45:24.000 We didn't say Brits are created equal to us. 0.51

00:45:26.000 No, no, no.

00:45:28.000 I prefer the St.

00:45:28.000 That's a hate crime.

00:45:29.000 Augustine thing of men are not born free and equal. 1.00

00:45:34.000 You're in an excrement. 0.98

00:45:34.000 Yes, we are born inextricably dependent from one another. 0.98

00:45:38.000 That's true.

00:45:39.000 And to tie up the materialism versus metaphysics, what you're proximate to, what higher ideal you both serve but can never be too excessive in trying to embody but not circumventing, the reason Audrey Hale was lionised as a martyr to the trans cause It's twofold, and this is why I think Marxism and liberalism are twin cheeks of the same materialistic backside.

00:46:01.000 In all of the Marxist literature you will see that because the superstructure, the oppressive, engineered inequities by capitalism is inescapable, then if you set up a revolution, all

00:46:13.000 revolution is just self-defense. You'll see this in Engels, Marx, and Rosa Luxemburg, revolutionary

00:46:18.000 communists of the Polish.

00:46:19.000 The other side of that is that with liberalism, you're right, you can never actually quantify

00:46:24.000 how much freedom someone has. If freedom, autonomy, maximum material benefits with

00:46:29.000 minimal social reliance is the goal, like Rousseau would do, right?

00:46:32.000 You can't itemize that.

00:46:33.000 All you can do is go on an eternal crusade of things which are seen as impediments to you being a fully autonomous individual.

00:46:39.000 This is something called comprehensive liberalism.

00:46:41.000 Claire Chambers has written about it. 0.99

00:46:43.000 She's a total madwoman. 1.00

00:46:44.000 Go down the rabbit hole. 0.97

00:46:45.000 My colleague Carl and Stelios have a great video on it on the website.

00:46:48.000 And so this is why they're very similar.

00:46:50.000 Both have a Promethean ambition.

00:46:52.000 Both seek to generate endless insatiable desires.

00:46:55.000 They use tech to do so.

00:46:56.000 This is why the recognition economy has come out of the material deficit economy.

00:47:00.000 All you can do to correct that measure is have humility in proximity to the highest possible love, which I have London would say is God.

00:47:09.000 Beautiful!

00:47:10.000 And to also reference Augustine, he said that man has as many masters as he does vices.

00:47:17.000 And so this idea of freedom as we generally conceive of it, merely being a product of the ability to have multiple choices without reference to your internal discipline, is totally nonsensical.

00:47:28.000 And speaking of that kind of worldview, And what it leads to, we have a story here of a pro-euthanasia activist who's been convicted in the Netherlands of sending suicide kits to 1600 people.

00:47:42.000 This is the inevitable outgrowth of materialism, the belief that freedom is simply a product of making multiple choices and has nothing to do with what the right or wrong choice is, as well as a person's virtuous predispositions or lack thereof.

00:47:55.000 or what man is meant to do and whether he's free to flourish in the role that he was built for rather than the one he has chosen for himself irrationally.

00:48:04.000 The activist Alex S was selling kits to people who didn't qualify for the legal assisted suicide program and according to the court the activist convinced people that the drugs were painless but in reality they suffered quote Severe distress and panic which led to a gruesome death, but it actually gets even worse than that.

00:48:23.000 In April, the Netherlands announced plans to expand the assisted suicide and euthanasia program to allow children ages 1 to 12 year olds to be eligible.

00:48:35.000 What?

00:48:37.000 A one-year-old can opt for suicide medically?

00:48:39.000 He can't.

00:48:40.000 His parents can.

00:48:41.000 What?

00:48:42.000 That's murder.

00:48:43.000 A one-year-old cannot opt in to get themselves killed.

00:48:46.000 That's a parent doing it to the kid.

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:49.000 Yeah.

00:48:50.000 It's sickening. 0.59

00:48:51.000 It's completely sickening.

00:48:52.000 This is what my friend Mary Harrington has referred to as the war on Imago Dei.

00:48:58.000 It's the idea that the human body is sacred in any way, shape or form, and you can't just exit it or mutilate it at any time.

00:49:05.000 And what we're seeing in relation to materialism It's either the body is a prison.

00:49:11.000 Not everything is Gnosticism, people.

00:49:13.000 Get that out.

00:49:15.000 But the trans identity is a form of Gnosticism where your body is a fleshy prison and you have to approximate it to feel who you truly are inside. 1.00

00:49:21.000 Is true.

00:49:21.000 That's right.

00:49:22.000 So there's no sacredness about the body you were given.

00:49:24.000 You just play mix and match with the appendages until you feel okay.

00:49:27.000 Or there's the attitude that your body is kind of a vessel of gratification.

00:49:31.000 It's just the means by which you feel around in a purely sensory world.

00:49:35.000 And so when you stop being capable of that sensation, when you stop being able to be pleasure-seeking because you have a terminal illness or you're old or you're just depressed and you don't feel anything anymore, then they say, well, it's perfectly logically consistent to exit.

00:49:45.000 And their only complaint is that you are suffering, not that you are achieving the ultimate suffering, which is just the extinguishing of your consciousness.

00:49:51.000 Exactly, well, okay, that's a very important point, and I would frame it very similarly.

00:49:55.000 Once you have made the meaning of life pleasure, once a person is no longer able to, or at the very least, less capable of experiencing subjectively pleasurable states, then their life no longer has meaning.

00:50:07.000 If the purpose of life, if the meaning of life goes deeper than your own particular emotions about the situation that you're in, then no amount of suffering actually justifies ending the life of a human being directly and intentionally.

00:50:21.000 Yeah, this is classic Solzhenitsyn existentialism.

00:50:24.000 And if you ever want to sort of escape, and I've suffered with depression throughout my life, I'm not going to minimize it, but if you ever want to get perspective, read the accounts of the people that have suffered the most and that you will probably never suffer, and they have come through it with sincere metaphysical convictions and faith in humanity.

00:50:40.000 Viktor Frankl wrote about this, that Solzhenitsyn's written about this, if they can survive

00:50:44.000 a gulag or a concentration camp, you can survive not being able to access Pornhub on your

00:50:48.000 state because Utah's blocked it.

00:50:49.000 **Matt Laughs** **Matt** No, and Utah blocked it because kids weren't able

00:50:53.000 to look at it. What an important detail in that story. And before I pass to you, Ian, I just

00:50:58.000 want to mention here, with what you just said, I agree with you that when you

00:51:03.000 look at people who have experienced the most tremendous suffering, they tend to be deferential to a 1.00

00:51:09.000 higher power. They believe in morality. They believe in meaning. And...

00:51:13.000 And of course, that's because experience is an expensive classroom, and those who have paid the greatest price often have the greatest knowledge, but also because I believe those situations actually select for people who have a deeper view of what existence is that goes beyond pleasure.

00:51:25.000 Because if you don't view that to begin with, or you don't come to believe that at some point through that experience, you're just gonna...

00:51:31.000 It's a crucible for spiritual formation, yeah.

00:51:33.000 Well, being in the gym, man, with a personal trainer being like, you're 12 more.

00:51:36.000 12 more reps.

00:51:37.000 Now we're going up weight.

00:51:38.000 Now we're going 25 pounds.

00:51:39.000 That's like hell.

00:51:40.000 It's like being in a kind of personal hell for a moment.

00:51:42.000 Just a moment.

00:51:43.000 But after coming out of it, it's like, I don't want to kill myself anymore.

00:51:47.000 I've already been through it, man.

00:51:48.000 God is good. 0.98

00:51:49.000 Like, this life is fucking great. 0.98

00:51:51.000 That's a good way of putting it, man. 0.99

00:51:52.000 That's why MSNBC came out the other day and said lifting weights is right wing. 0.93

00:51:56.000 Because you're an independent thinker.

00:51:57.000 Once you master your own body and are not contingent on other people's stimulants or pleasures to try and sedate that screaming conscience, then the universal homogenous state can't have you in their clutches.

00:52:07.000 Shoot, man, yeah, I gotta get way more right-wing.

00:52:09.000 I'll have to hit the gym with you, man. 0.98

00:52:12.000 One point that you mention here is that it's like your own personal hell.

00:52:15.000 There's something here, there's actually something that touches on an important part.

00:52:18.000 No, no, no, I know, but this touches on an important part of, like, the Christian tradition, which is dying to yourself.

00:52:23.000 It's like, to describe it as hell, in some senses, to describe it as, like, a small death.

00:52:26.000 Like, you are willfully embracing a form of death, but what is the outcome of that?

00:52:30.000 A resurrection!

00:52:31.000 Your muscles get stronger!

00:52:33.000 You actually strengthen yourself because you've willfully embraced that small death.

00:52:36.000 Literally tearing your muscles, bleeding on the inside so that it can forge and regrow stronger and bigger.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, that small death has, like, led to a small resurrection, in a sense.

00:52:45.000 And I think we see that with all productive things that are painful, right?

00:52:51.000 If you really buckle down and do your job, even though it's difficult, there's, like, a small death you feel, oh, it's so beautiful outside, I don't want to work right now.

00:52:57.000 But then when all is said and done and you've created this, it's like this moment of resurrection.

00:53:00.000 You've created something beautiful because you willingly embrace that.

00:53:03.000 Yeah, I think there's a resistance to accepting that glory comes through struggle, right?

00:53:07.000 Glory is through a lot of things and there's a fear of hardship, right?

00:53:07.000 Yeah.

00:53:12.000 So when we talk about censoring people's language or saying, you know, you have to call me by these things.

00:53:16.000 You need to make me feel good about myself.

00:53:20.000 Encouraging a culture that is avoiding challenge and avoiding personal growth through challenge, and I think that is what's most devastating to To people today is that you can never feel true satisfaction without really feeling you've achieved something and sometimes achievement comes at a cost I won't I mean I agree with you I think you can't minimize You know how crippling depression anxiety some of the emotional states that people go through can be on the other hand Working through your struggle is ultimately how you become a better and stronger version of yourself, and it gives you a perspective that you are, I personally feel like, meant to have, right?

00:53:57.000 You want to have insight into the world that makes you more in touch with the human condition.

00:54:01.000 I'm thinking about meditation.

00:54:03.000 That's another struggle because it's easy to think.

00:54:05.000 It's easy to get distracted and think about the colors you see or the noise you're hearing, but to have no thoughts, that's a challenge and it is hard.

00:54:12.000 That's why prayer is a lot easier because all you do is externalize your thoughts and you give it up to the big man upstairs and he can walk you through it.

00:54:18.000 Rather than try and force yourself to be completely blind, you just vent your conscience out and you actually have a dialogue with someone that can help you out.

00:54:23.000 And there's also, I would say, there's also a discipline and difficulty to prayer, which is kind of touching on part of what you're saying, which is, even though I don't, like, recommend the form of meditation you're describing, I agree that there's something very difficult about not just allowing your internal monologue to drag you everywhere without taking a moment to reflect about what you're thinking about, what you're orienting yourself towards.

00:54:44.000 It's really important.

00:54:45.000 uh i believe to develop a prayer life in part to escape that just constantly being led around by that that almost nagging that like very adhd jump from subject to subject to subject just based on whatever enters consciousness why i don't prayer what i don't pray by saying things in my thoughts i just have no thoughts is because i feel like it's polarizing to choose this is what it's going to be like with no thought there's no i'm not deciding it's got to be this now it i'm i get concerned about my polarizing my behavior in my mind That's interesting.

00:55:16.000 So here's what I would say.

00:55:19.000 When you're allowing yourself, and we all do this, right?

00:55:22.000 And this is what we're trying to escape in some sense.

00:55:23.000 When we allow ourselves to just be dragged around from thought to thought, in that instance we're actually not choosing what we're thinking about, right?

00:55:29.000 We're just being led.

00:55:30.000 And I think to jump to another state where you're trying to suppress all thought, I would say you're also just not choosing a particular thought.

00:55:37.000 And so that's why I would say like prayer is actually uh... the opposite of just letting yourself being led

00:55:43.000 around and it does require choice but

00:55:45.000 but uh... your thoughts being dragged everywhere doesn't require a choice

00:55:48.000 right you're you're just kind of letting it happen but it gets to a point where

00:55:51.000 you're not suppressing the thoughts anymore they just stop coming into your

00:55:53.000 head and you'll be like forty minutes ago you'd be like

00:55:56.000 five seconds and then you realize you're thinking you're like okay let it go

00:55:59.000 No thought.

00:56:00.000 And then like some time goes by and you're like, oh, oh, there's a, oh, I was thinking for a few minutes or a few seconds.

00:56:05.000 Okay, let it go.

00:56:06.000 And then all of a sudden it's like longer, eight seconds.

00:56:08.000 You have no thought.

00:56:08.000 Then it's like 20 seconds.

00:56:09.000 Then all of a sudden you can do it for five minutes and you're like, whoa.

00:56:12.000 Then like all your emotions, they're back to baseline.

00:56:14.000 Yeah, well, it's interesting.

00:56:16.000 We'll have to discuss it because, again, I've made my thoughts about that form of meditation clear, but it'd be a cool discussion for the after show, too, I think, to get into some of that stuff.

00:56:24.000 Get jacked!

00:56:25.000 With reference to what Hannah Clare was saying about making yourself better, I just want to mention this before we move on from the topic.

00:56:33.000 You made this point, becoming a stronger, better version of yourself.

00:56:37.000 If you believe that there is a telos, that there is a purpose, that there is a reason you are here, then achieving that purpose is what you're supposed to do.

00:56:44.000 And a struggle is something that you may have to embrace in order to reach that fulfillment, in order to fulfill your purpose.

00:56:53.000 Uh, and you can get pleasure from that.

00:56:55.000 Like, of course, naturally, there's a natural pleasure that comes from doing things the right way.

00:56:58.000 And when you develop virtue, there's like a pleasure that a person can get from doing something virtuous.

00:57:04.000 That said, I think the modern conceptualization, which is just feel good about things, of course, can't contend with that.

00:57:13.000 And what ends up happening is your, your mission is not necessarily become a better version of yourself.

00:57:17.000 It's just that maximize positive experiences in minimize Displeasurable experiences and so what that results in is basically a philosophy that I don't think can argue against the best possible state to be in is a simulation where everything goes well for you and not living in the real world doing difficult but important things.

00:57:34.000 where you get whatever you want because it's completely about self-indulgence

00:57:38.000 and in that you are never able to experience true joy or happiness

00:57:42.000 because it's all about momentary immediate pleasure, right?

00:57:45.000 I mean, some of the challenges that we're talking about, like when you bring up working out,

00:57:48.000 is that long-term you're gonna feel the benefits of it.

00:57:51.000 It's not that every single day when you're lifting the weights is super fun, right?

00:57:55.000 You're exhausted, you're tired.

00:57:56.000 It's that ultimately these things are worth it and that you stay on the path

00:58:00.000 because you know you're achieving something great through the sacrifice and struggle that it takes.

00:58:04.000 I do like, yesterday I was playing Drops of Jupiter by Train and I start crying, man.

00:58:08.000 I'm thinking about my mom, and he's singing about his mom in that song, and she died, I guess, and her soul's out there, and it comes, it's just like, but then I feel like, it's like, yeah, it hurts, and it's painful, it's sad, but then I'm normal, like, it's okay, it's okay, you don't have to put Xanax in your brain.

00:58:21.000 You can bear suffering, as it turns out.

00:58:24.000 Yeah.

00:58:24.000 Yeah, no, that's an interesting point too, like trying to get through things without medicating yourself.

00:58:29.000 But also not to get addicted to the pain because it can become like the crying.

00:58:32.000 I was like, I want to, I couldn't keep doing it.

00:58:34.000 I'm like, oh, I feel it, I want it.

00:58:36.000 I'm like, no, just breathe and kind of let it out.

00:58:38.000 You know, it comes.

00:58:39.000 You don't, you don't force it onto yourself.

00:58:41.000 It just happens.

00:58:42.000 I mean, more difficult is not necessarily better.

00:58:42.000 Yeah.

00:58:44.000 I agree with you, right?

00:58:45.000 Like you, you can't just make it about embracing something difficult because sometimes something which is more difficult is not necessarily the best path for you.

00:58:51.000 Yeah.

00:58:52.000 Don't malice yourself.

00:58:52.000 Live as the ideal instead.

00:58:54.000 Yeah, that's the way to go.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, that's a fair point.

00:58:56.000 Don't martyr yourself, live as the ideal instead.

00:58:58.000 Ah, yeah, dude!

00:59:00.000 Well, we were just talking a moment ago about jumping from thought to thought versus trying to push all the thoughts out of your head.

00:59:09.000 Our next story involves a man who I'm not sure Which category to place him in there?

00:59:15.000 Is this someone who doesn't have thoughts?

00:59:16.000 Is this someone who's led around from thought to thought?

00:59:18.000 I am not sure, but he is our president, the one and only Joe Biden.

00:59:23.000 And his administration says, surprise, surprise, they think that SCOTUS got it wrong after striking down student loan forgiveness.

00:59:32.000 Of course he does. 0.92

00:59:33.000 I mean, it's ridiculous.

00:59:35.000 If you want to sit here and make the argument that student loan forgiveness is a good program, I'll disagree with you for some reasons I've laid out last night, and which I'll summarize again in a moment here.

00:59:43.000 Ultimately, the idea that it is an infringement of people's rights, that the Supreme Court is failing to stick to constitutional ideals by not allowing Joe Biden to redistribute wealth from people who didn't receive higher education or who paid off their loans to people who did receive higher education and or didn't pay off their loans, or I should say and didn't pay off their loans, not and or.

01:00:05.000 It's totally insane.

01:00:07.000 So I rattled off some statistics last night.

01:00:10.000 People who graduate with a PhD earn something like $99,000 a year as their median income and their unemployment rate is about 1.1%.

01:00:19.000 People with a master's will earn a median income of about $78,000.

01:00:25.000 Their unemployment rate is slightly higher, but nothing too terrible.

01:00:29.000 Then when you go down to people who only have a high school education, Their median income is about $38,000 a year and they have a 4 point something percent unemployment rate.

01:00:37.000 So the idea that people who haven't received higher education who are making significantly less money and have a higher unemployment rate should have their wealth redistributed in order to pay for people who did receive a higher education and who are now in the workforce with a higher earning potential despite taking anywhere between four and eight years out of the workforce in order to attain that degree.

01:00:58.000 And in many cases, paid for some of their living expenses rather than just their education with those loans.

01:01:05.000 I think it's just totally insane.

01:01:06.000 It's totally unfair, aside from being unconstitutional, that that should be the state of affairs.

01:01:10.000 I gotta ask, because I talked to my mother about this a couple days ago, and I was like, I'm not comfortable.

01:01:14.000 She's like, oh yeah, they're starting to stop him from... but Ian, you need to... and I'm like, I'm not comfortable getting other people to It's tax money to pay off my debt.

01:01:21.000 And she's like, no, it's only the billionaire's taxes that are getting used.

01:01:24.000 Not true.

01:01:25.000 So this is the media.

01:01:26.000 I mean, she watches MSNBC. 0.99

01:01:27.000 I guess they're just kind of subtly not telling you the guys that make 16 bucks an hour at McDonald's are going to have to pay your taxes for me to get my student loans paid.

01:01:36.000 I mean, fortunately, I'm not in that bracket now.

01:01:39.000 Well, so what happened is I got an email from the department.

01:01:41.000 He's not even doing it with his mouth.

01:01:41.000 It's not Biden.

01:01:43.000 He's doing it with the Department of Education.

01:01:44.000 I got an email from them.

01:01:45.000 That said, we think the Supreme Court got it wrong, this is like four days ago or something, so we're going to do it anyway, but we're going to do it with people that are making up to $65,000 a year or something like that.

01:01:55.000 If you don't want it, opt out, but otherwise we're just going to do it.

01:01:58.000 Well, I think part of this for Biden is it's a make or break issue for him because he campaigned so hard on, I will get your student loans forgiven, right?

01:02:08.000 And so now we're getting desperate.

01:02:09.000 We're getting close to election season and he needs to make progress on this issue.

01:02:13.000 Otherwise, a lot of his young voter base is going to say, but you said you'd pay off my debt and you didn't.

01:02:18.000 I mean, I have never understood how Joe Biden is a viable candidate for Democrats anyways, but it's important to note how big of an issue this was.

01:02:26.000 This was a deciding factor for young voters.

01:02:29.000 Understandably so, because I don't disagree with Chambliss.

01:02:31.000 On the other hand, the reality is if you have tons of student loan debt because you were

01:02:34.000 told, hey, go take out a loan, pay for education, and it'll all work out and you are feeling

01:02:40.000 the consequences of that, I would also be looking for a way to get out of this, right?

01:02:44.000 I would also be looking for help.

01:02:47.000 And Joe Biden is failing on that front.

01:02:50.000 Not that he shouldn't, but you can see what becomes.

01:02:54.000 One underlying theme of all of our conversation tonight has been the fostering of dependency

01:02:57.000 by being godless, materially contingent.

01:02:59.000 And now, the reason they're pushing for this, and I think we've got a model over in the

01:03:03.000 UK, is because university attendance in the UK is much higher because Tony Blair wanted,

01:03:08.000 I believe it was about 50%.

01:03:10.000 50% of all, at least, of all young people in the UK to go to university.

01:03:14.000 Then the Cameron years pushed it up, so they made you stay in higher education until 18, so they could fudge the unemployment numbers.

01:03:22.000 And also, because student loans are a lot less, and they're taxpayer-guaranteed.

01:03:25.000 So they've just jumped them up significantly.

01:03:27.000 I think they've doubled them.

01:03:28.000 But I paid about £9,000 a year, plus a maintenance loan that's means-adjusted, so about £4,000.

01:03:34.000 So I've left with about £40,000 in debt in total.

01:03:37.000 And we pay that back over the course of about 30 years.

01:03:39.000 We won't pay it back until we're about 50.

01:03:41.000 And what they want to do is get you into the institution which engenders a certain kind of managerial mindset.

01:03:46.000 It's a self-propagating managerial class, like James Burnham would have talked about.

01:03:50.000 And then you're sort of imbibed intersectionality, and you become the perfect kind of compliant corporate drone who says whatever they can to get ahead.

01:03:58.000 And what Biden wants here is to create a dependent class, both they want to vote him in so they

01:04:03.000 can alleviate the debt, and if you have a lot of debt, then of course you want the big

01:04:06.000 government to come and manage the economy to get rid of it, and also self-propagate

01:04:09.000 more people going to university so they're not as scared about racking up all this debt

01:04:12.000 so then they're more compliant with Zedix in the future.

01:04:14.000 It's a genius self-propagation strategy.

01:04:18.000 No wonder the Democrats want to push it.

01:04:19.000 I think it is also interesting, this idea of getting people massively in debt to the

01:04:24.000 point where they don't have the kind of economic leverage that they ordinarily would without

01:04:29.000 also giving them some kind of property to show for it.

01:04:33.000 This is absolutely massive.

01:04:34.000 This is one of the reasons I'm somewhat sympathetic to the people who say they want student loans to be forgiven.

01:04:38.000 There's actually a few reasons.

01:04:40.000 Ultimately, I don't agree with it for the reasons I laid out earlier.

01:04:42.000 you make way more money with the degree, people who are making less money

01:04:45.000 shouldn't have to pay your degree off, you still generally end up making way more

01:04:48.000 over the course of your life than the degree ends up costing

01:04:52.000 but that said, I believe in property ownership, I believe that one of the best economic strategies

01:04:59.000 is to create the conditions for the largest amount of people

01:05:03.000 to have property as is possible so that everyone has a stake in the system,

01:05:07.000 everyone does actually have a material stake in the future as well.

01:05:11.000 I think when you're a nation of renters, it becomes a lot more difficult to get people to care

01:05:15.000 about a neighborhood or a region and this is also part of why it's so insidious

01:05:20.000 that organizations like BlackRock and a lot of these investor buyers have been swooping in

01:05:25.000 and getting all of the real estate in this country and driving prices up for residential owners

01:05:30.000 and so I'm sympathetic to the argument even though I don't agree with student loan forgiveness.

01:05:34.000 That we have effectively created a class of people who have the worst of both worlds. 0.98

01:05:37.000 They're heavily in debt, so they lack leverage, but they also don't, along with that debt, have the leverage that comes along with property ownership.

01:05:44.000 It's even worse in the UK.

01:05:45.000 So, in 1997, before Tony Blair did education and immigration reforms, house prices were three times median income.

01:05:52.000 Oh my goodness.

01:05:52.000 Now it's 11.

01:05:53.000 Yep, we only build 200,000 homes a year.

01:05:55.000 We have net intake of 1.1 million immigrants, plus the people that are battery farming in these hotels. 0.99

01:06:00.000 Migration Watch UK has estimated that because, and this is the Office for National Statistics that have found that migration is the leading cause of population increase in the UK, because we've got a sub-replacement birth rate, as do most places.

01:06:10.000 Most Western countries, most of all.

01:06:11.000 And higher education is a cause of that.

01:06:11.000 Yes.

01:06:13.000 I spoke to Stephen Shaw, a documentary filmmaker, and he said that this is one of the main reasons why people are delaying having kids.

01:06:18.000 It's because they're spending up until their mid-twenties, their peak fertility years, in universities.

01:06:21.000 But Migration Watch found that by 2046, the rated population increase that the UK is experiencing will have to have 15 to 18 new cities the size of Birmingham to accommodate that.

01:06:31.000 We can't build it.

01:06:32.000 And the reason they're not building it, and this is the final point, is that 25% of the Conservative Party's donors are property developers.

01:06:39.000 So they have the perverse incentive to both keep prices high enough that they're making a return on investment but then keep a steady stream of inflated demand so they keep building these terrible new houses that are unfit for living and are basically just knocked up new builds where the garden fences are like that.

01:06:54.000 So it's the worst of both worlds in my country.

01:06:56.000 Yeah, I'd also like to mention one more thing, which is that Biden's student loan repayment changes could cost around $475 billion.

01:07:05.000 We've been talking a lot about the negative economic impact in an abstract, though valid, way.

01:07:10.000 However, these are the material figures.

01:07:13.000 $475 billion.

01:07:14.000 That's incredible.

01:07:15.000 The Fed will just print that in an afternoon.

01:07:16.000 It's fine, guys.

01:07:17.000 That'll have no consequences at all.

01:07:18.000 It never has, right?

01:07:20.000 When has printing way too much money ever gone badly for a country?

01:07:24.000 I mean, they just act like money doesn't mean anything.

01:07:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:26.000 These numbers are ridiculous. 0.91

01:07:28.000 And I think that's partially because, in my opinion, the Democrat Party relies on fixing things in the immediate short term to maintain power, and they just kick the problems down the line. 0.91

01:07:39.000 In fact, they're more likely to blame someone else, right?

01:07:42.000 Yeah.

01:07:45.000 I think it's a broken system and I am sad for the people who have to deal with the consequences,

01:07:49.000 but I don't think that student loan debt forgiveness is the answer the way that it's

01:07:54.000 being proposed. And part of that for me is it all goes back to a huge cultural shift. I mean,

01:07:59.000 you might be able to speak to this more than I can, but our education system demands that

01:08:04.000 you make it through 12th grade.

01:08:06.000 And then when you go to 12th grade, you're supposed to leave and go to college.

01:08:09.000 You're supposed to go for a degree.

01:08:10.000 And increasingly, they say, well, if you really want to make more money, you should get a master's degree.

01:08:14.000 So that's an additional one to two years, right?

01:08:17.000 And well, let's not forget about the medical professions and going to law school.

01:08:20.000 So you're in school forever, creating intense debt and also being reliant on a system.

01:08:26.000 I think that the American education system needs a complete overhaul that encourages independent thought because it should encourage self-dependence and self-reliance.

01:08:37.000 I think that is ultimately what I don't like, and it's why it's important you have these conversations about, well, if you don't go to college, what are your options?

01:08:43.000 And in America, we desperately need people to go into the trades, which you can have a successful living without taking on debt, and in some ways have a more free life, right?

01:08:51.000 If you are shackled to student debt, you have to be conscious of that in how you financially plan for your life, even though you have this high-paying degree.

01:09:00.000 Whereas if you are able to start making significant amounts of money at a young age, imagine all the things that you could do and the investments you can make and the changes that you could have.

01:09:08.000 Yeah, if you want to work on the, if you want to be an electrician, you can also be a YouTuber.

01:09:12.000 You can be an artist and a craftsman now in this world and you can make a lot of money and you don't need to go to school for it.

01:09:17.000 You can learn the trade online.

01:09:19.000 That's the overhaul I think we need is people need to take it seriously.

01:09:22.000 The data is there.

01:09:23.000 It is available on the internet.

01:09:25.000 animated at the age of 12 or something.

01:09:25.000 Yeah, I started when I was 12.

01:09:26.000 Yeah, I started when I was 12.

01:09:27.000 Now you're like a quadrillionaire!

01:09:28.000 Until YouTube locks you out of your account, of course.

01:09:32.000 Yeah, no, yes, we should mention that.

01:09:34.000 I did get locked up.

01:09:35.000 Oh yeah, we should get an update.

01:09:36.000 So, we're still not waiting.

01:09:37.000 There were, um...

01:09:38.000 For people who don't know, what's going on?

01:09:39.000 Long story short, yeah, so I have a large YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

01:09:43.000 We have 877,000 subscribers.

01:09:45.000 I make animated cartoons there.

01:09:47.000 What happened was I have a podcast on Rumble called Shamer.

01:09:51.000 There was another YouTube channel that was pirating all of our content and uploading it without our permission.

01:09:56.000 We've been trying to flag them to get them taken down because we have our own Shamer channel on YouTube that we are posting clips to and it's been overshadowed in the algorithm by this imposter. 0.99

01:10:05.000 And so myself and many people were kind of flagging to try to get it, you know, to bring it to YouTube's attention.

01:10:13.000 Nothing happened.

01:10:14.000 And so I just flagged some of their content and then YouTube did take some of it down.

01:10:21.000 and because I was able to prove that this is content that was mine originally that came from my rumble channel and

01:10:26.000 then we flagged some more of it and what happened was in by we are I mean me I just sat at my computer and flagged a

01:10:33.000 couple more videos in and just show that they were uploaded without my permission where they came from

01:10:38.000 originally they were the exact same videos exact same titles exact same links not mirrored or anything like that

01:10:45.000 and YouTube said that the claims were fraudulent and that it was removing all of the channels associated with the

01:10:52.000 channel that I made the claim from So I got an email for every YouTube channel that I run from that email address that had been taken down, and it didn't mention Freedom Tunes.

01:11:01.000 And Freedom Tunes is still up, but all related channels are deleted, and I cannot log into Freedom Tunes.

01:11:05.000 Every single time I try to, there's no interface for me to do anything.

01:11:09.000 It just takes me back to my other Google accounts.

01:11:11.000 So I've reached out to the people at Google to see if we can get this fixed.

01:11:15.000 I've reached out to the people at YouTube.

01:11:17.000 I tweeted about it a little bit earlier today.

01:11:19.000 Let's hope and pray that we're able to get this sorted out.

01:11:22.000 My favorite part of this was YouTube responded to you on Twitter saying, no, no, you don't understand, you just have to take down your fraudulent content.

01:11:29.000 And I was like, yeah, I was like, it's my content!

01:11:31.000 I was like, no, you don't understand, like, I was accused of making a false copyright claim when I didn't.

01:11:36.000 The claim was like blatantly, blatantly true.

01:11:40.000 Like, I posted my video on Rumble, which was identical to the video this person posted on YouTube a day later and had the same title and was the exact same content.

01:11:49.000 All I can see... So yeah, we're locked out of Freedom Tunes right now because of all this.

01:11:52.000 All I can see is if you flag the same video from three different accounts, they're like, hey, you can only flag it from one account.

01:11:58.000 No, but yeah, but that's not what happened.

01:12:00.000 That's not what happened.

01:12:01.000 So I was using, the channel was Eclipse Channel for my Shamer podcast, and I flagged it from there because that seemed to be the most appropriate channel to do it from since that's the one that was being overshadowed in the algorithm by this other Shamer channel.

01:12:14.000 And yeah, they said all the other channels linked to it were being removed.

01:12:17.000 Open it up, guys, because he's been stressed.

01:12:20.000 Do you think they were just punishing you for having Rumble exclusive?

01:12:23.000 I don't know about that because it also affected my Freedom Tunes channel and you're right that that could still be a punishment.

01:12:29.000 I don't want to assume that this was like politically motivated or malicious.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, I know.

01:12:35.000 Well, I think here's the thing.

01:12:37.000 It seems to me like something that could just be a massive mistake.

01:12:40.000 Here's the thing.

01:12:41.000 I don't know if they have an AI algorithm doing this.

01:12:43.000 If they do, I still think it's really remarkable that it would consider this claim fraudulent, considering it is the exact same video, both places, uploaded a day before on my channel.

01:12:53.000 And also, oh, by the way, this channel that was uploading my stuff, now they just uploaded a full Steven Crowder video.

01:12:58.000 So I don't know how much more obvious it has to be that a channel is fake and pirating content.

01:13:02.000 But it's still up there, and my channels are all taken down, and we can't get into Freedom Tunes.

01:13:06.000 No, no, no.

01:13:07.000 You're mistaken.

01:13:08.000 Because you're hosting for Tim this week, he's taking over your channel, right?

01:13:12.000 That's how this works.

01:13:13.000 Tim has the creds.

01:13:14.000 Crowder is filling in for you as you fill in for Tim.

01:13:18.000 I thought you were going over to the UK at some point, and I thought that was a crossover.

01:13:21.000 So that's still gonna happen, yeah.

01:13:22.000 Yeah, so I thought that you wouldn't be here, and actually the show would get the raw end of the deal of the Irish Catholic Exchange Program.

01:13:22.000 I'm still working on that.

01:13:27.000 I'm glad we're both in the same room together.

01:13:30.000 That's right, Tim would send his Irish Catholic away over to England and then you guys would get one back here. 1.00

01:13:35.000 Now, we're both in the same room together because I sent Tim away.

01:13:38.000 I want to just, before we move on to the next topic, I want to tap out on student loans because what I think the biggest problem is that One, it's not cool to go tax a bunch of people that aren't asking for it to pay off my loans.

01:13:51.000 That's not cool.

01:13:52.000 It's also not cool to print a bunch of money without anybody's authority because it diminishes all of our purchasing power, makes the dollar worth 98 cents or 96 cents or whatever.

01:14:00.000 That's not cool.

01:14:00.000 What would be interesting is if they told the loan agencies, we're not giving you the interest back.

01:14:05.000 All that collateral loan, all this compounding interest, you're not getting any of it back.

01:14:09.000 I would even go so far as to say, you're not getting any of the loans back.

01:14:12.000 Now that might destroy the economy.

01:14:13.000 So I haven't looked too deep into what that would do, how it would rattle the system.

01:14:16.000 But I think the compound interest is predatory.

01:14:19.000 I don't think it's ethical.

01:14:20.000 It's usurious.

01:14:21.000 And I think that our government would have a right to say, you're not getting the compound interest back.

01:14:25.000 And then cut it out of everyone's debt.

01:14:27.000 No printing.

01:14:28.000 I would tend to agree.

01:14:29.000 I think there are a lot of problems with interest, especially compounding interest.

01:14:33.000 I understand that because we have a economy and a government that's always inflating its own currency, that interest does become necessary to issue loans.

01:14:40.000 But I agree with you, like the compounding interest stuff, the idea of just making absorbent amounts of money off of these loans, especially when they're federally guaranteed, just seems entirely backwards to me.

01:14:49.000 The government's guaranteeing these loans?

01:14:50.000 I don't know how you can make the same justification.

01:14:52.000 It would seem to me that in that situation, what you would have to do if the loan was federally guaranteed is ensure that the only kind of interest imposed would be

01:15:00.000 interest that kept the loan

01:15:03.000 uh... steady with inflation so that the people who gave it out didn't lose value in the

01:15:08.000 long term or lose adjusted money

01:15:10.000 but where they weren't able to profit immensely off of something where they

01:15:14.000 really don't have any risk because the government has told them that they're

01:15:17.000 going to get the money back regardless. If I can make one small point on

01:15:20.000 perverse profit incentives over in the UK side we don't have the same level of interest on our loans as

01:15:26.000 you guys do and they're not But what we do have is universities, knowing that their budget is government guaranteed, running up a massive debt.

01:15:33.000 And so what they do is, because foreign students pay much more, they mass import students from China and India, mainly the very wealthy students over there that can pay up front, And then, they build loads of student accommodation, rather than the houses we were talking about, that charge exorbitant prices, so what ends up happening is, native British students, even though they're paying less, they're getting less quality education, they're competing for the same spots, and they're getting lower quality student accommodation, and even their student accommodation is more expensive, because it's scarce.

01:16:02.000 So, I just think running the universities as a for-profit enterprise hasn't gone as well as some would hope.

01:16:08.000 Yeah, well, no, it's interesting.

01:16:09.000 There's a similar problem that actually happens with state schools in the U.S.

01:16:13.000 If you're born in a specific state, if you're a resident of that state, you live there your whole life, you are able to get a discount on a tuition.

01:16:19.000 So, of course, they have an economic incentive to accept more students from out of state because they're going to end up paying the full tuition price without ever, you know, having to give that discount.

01:16:31.000 And speaking of hunting for discounts, we know, oh, certain special somebody.

01:16:37.000 Transitions on this show.

01:16:39.000 His luggage for free.

01:16:40.000 That was that was that was Michael Knowles level smooth.

01:16:43.000 Thank you.

01:16:45.000 Michael Knowles hopes to be Seamus Coghlan level smooth at some point.

01:16:48.000 But the non-binary ex-Biden official, Sam Britton, was on a secret taxpayer funded trip

01:16:58.000 at the time of his luggage theft.

01:17:01.000 What an unbelievably fun story here.

01:17:03.000 So, yes, Sam Britton of the Department of Energy was on a tax funded trip

01:17:07.000 at the time when he stole the luggage.

01:17:10.000 That was the incident where it was actually captured on footage in Nevada.

01:17:14.000 Nevada. I can't believe I said Nevada.

01:17:16.000 Who says Nevada? It's Nevada.

01:17:18.000 No, it's wrong. No, it's Nevada.

01:17:20.000 I don't know.

01:17:20.000 Okay.

01:17:21.000 It was like a speech impediment for a moment there.

01:17:23.000 Chicago, let's not do this.

01:17:24.000 It's Nevada.

01:17:24.000 But yeah, so the trip was caught on camera.

01:17:26.000 I believe this is the third time, or at least he's been accused three times of taking suitcases from women and then wearing their clothing wrong.

01:17:34.000 And convicted twice, let's remember.

01:17:35.000 And he's been convicted of this twice.

01:17:36.000 He's gone two out of three.

01:17:37.000 So it wasn't enough that he was on a taxpayer-funded trip, he also had to get free luggage.

01:17:42.000 So I guess one question I have is, does this guy just not pack a bag before he goes on these trips?

01:17:46.000 And maybe the reason that he's ended up just wearing different clothing isn't just self-expression, as he would put it, but this is what's in the luggage.

01:17:55.000 You just get luggage from the airport, and then you put the clothes on, and the clothing that was in the luggage...

01:18:00.000 How much is he stealing to continually find clothes that fit?

01:18:03.000 Like, is he just playing a numbers game, or is he doing the Buffalo Bill thing of where he'll go, are you about size 14?

01:18:08.000 Club.

01:18:08.000 And then get the pre-selected person.

01:18:11.000 I have no idea, but I don't think he's spending all that much time thinking about the luggage he gets, because there was a hilarious story a little while ago, Hannah Clare and I were talking about this before we went on air, but it was basically determined that the clothing that he was wearing was clothing which came from the suitcase of a woman who was a fashion designer.

01:18:30.000 Yeah, so she had made a bunch of different beautiful dresses for a fashion expo. 1.00

01:18:36.000 She went from Tanzania, or she's from Tanzania originally.

01:18:38.000 Yeah, she's based in Houston, she's Tanzanian, and traveled to D.C., was supposed to show her clothes as sort of a business deal for her, and couldn't do it because her bag went missing at Reagan Airport.

01:18:51.000 When she heard about Sam Brinton's arrest, she said, I'm gonna look this up and recognize the clothes that he has been wearing because they're not just run-of-the-mill, you can get them at the Gap.

01:19:01.000 They are very unique.

01:19:03.000 Meanwhile, she went on Twitter for this and I was just like, I was shortly thereafter contacted by the FBI who was like, please give us more information.

01:19:11.000 And then after that, I don't know if they're actually connected, but Sam Burton was arrested as a fugitive from justice.

01:19:17.000 He lives in Maryland because he works for DC, in connection to someone's luggage going missing from a DC airport.

01:19:25.000 And I find this to be so funny, because what were the odds?

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:29.000 I mean, it wasn't like he just wore them, you know, casually to the office.

01:19:32.000 He went on to, like, the Trevor Projects had him on for some award, and he's wearing this thing.

01:19:36.000 Can you imagine being this woman, being like, I not just own that.

01:19:40.000 I made that!

01:19:41.000 That is my piece of clothing!

01:19:43.000 But shouldn't we, as a nation, all share with one another, Hannah Clare?

01:19:47.000 Don't you think it's a bit stingy for her to say that this is just hers?

01:19:47.000 I don't know!

01:19:49.000 We talked about the toothbrush thing last night, I don't know.

01:19:51.000 It's like I always say, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen.

01:19:55.000 Might I quote Norm Macdonald here, and that sounds like some bleep, commie, gobbledygook. 0.79

01:20:01.000 I'd also like to draw attention to Sam Brin.

01:20:02.000 Again, I'm just going to go on the ad hominem, Ian, because you're setting a fantastic example.

01:20:06.000 That mugshot is the sleep paralysis demon that I see in my nightmares.

01:20:10.000 Was he wearing designer clothes?

01:20:11.000 I feel like Matt Damon could play that guy.

01:20:14.000 He's a little older now, but they look similar.

01:20:15.000 But would he want to?

01:20:16.000 It could be an interesting kind of thriller.

01:20:18.000 Dude, Lex Freedman made a hilarious observation.

01:20:21.000 It wasn't even a joke.

01:20:22.000 He's like, you go to the airport, you wait for two hours standing in line, taking your shoes off, taking your bag out, and then when you get out of the airport, you get all done.

01:20:30.000 Just take whatever bag you want.

01:20:32.000 And it's true!

01:20:34.000 You could walk out of there with, like, 40 bags!

01:20:36.000 I mean, if you have more than one, someone will probably be like, hey, but there's no security at the bags.

01:20:41.000 They just come out and anyone can grab anything.

01:20:43.000 You know what, though?

01:20:43.000 It's crazy.

01:20:45.000 I hear you, but please don't give them any motivation to make the airport more of a hassle.

01:20:50.000 I think the baggage thing is us saying, this is a price we are willing to pay to just not have to deal with the TSA anymore, not have to deal with any more bureaucracy.

01:20:57.000 Just let me go! 0.99

01:20:58.000 I'm off the plane!

01:20:59.000 Let me leave! 0.99

01:20:59.000 But we didn't even need that level of bureaucracy when we were a higher trust society and when we started mainstreaming degeneracy and importing incompatible cultures where higher trust is not that same thing. 0.99

01:21:09.000 The social texture phrase.

01:21:10.000 And so you need increasing levels of bureaucracy to micromanage the behaviours of a dependent population.

01:21:14.000 And I would agree with you, but it's not even just that.

01:21:16.000 I mean, these bureaucracies aren't even effective at combating what they're there to protect us from.

01:21:22.000 The TSA has failed, like, 98% of its audits to try to prevent... Well, because they're staffed by incompetent diversity hires like this, so fortunately they decide to out themselves, I mean... 1.00

01:21:32.000 I'm sorry, he is one of our leading nuclear minds in this country?

01:21:35.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:21:37.000 He lost all his hair from the radiation poisoning.

01:21:38.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:21:39.000 No, I mean, I think it's worth pointing out that you were saying before, is he just following people around and guessing that they're his size?

01:21:46.000 He is specifically looking for female luggage.

01:21:50.000 One of the examples was he stole a duffel bag, what I believe was Vera Bradley.

01:21:54.000 If you know Vera Bradley, it's all very feminine prints.

01:21:57.000 This person is specifically targeting women to steal from them. 1.00

01:22:01.000 This is bizarre.

01:22:03.000 And yet the Biden administration just tried to pretend it wasn't happening.

01:22:07.000 They sort of said, oh, well, he's not employed by us.

01:22:10.000 Like, we couldn't say.

01:22:11.000 And now we know that actually he was acting this way while on duty for the government.

01:22:16.000 Well, look, I mean, come on, stealing luggage, sniffing, It's not!

01:22:19.000 they're not that far outside of one another in terms of like a defiance of normal behavioral

01:22:26.000 expectations. So I don't even think it's the Biden administration's worst scandal by any

01:22:32.000 stretch of the imagination. It's not, isn't that crazy? And it's not the weirdest thing.

01:22:35.000 And by scandal, I'm not saying, well, there are worse scandals because there's political corruption.

01:22:38.000 I'm just talking about like the weird things people in the Biden administration have done.

01:22:42.000 I don't even think this is the weirdest thing. We have a vice president who cackles over Venn

01:22:45.000 diagrams and who loves yellow school buses and gleefully exclaims it like she's a children's 1.00

01:22:50.000 presenter on PBS who's also pro-population control. They put a satanist in charge of

01:22:55.000 monkey pox response. I mean, did they? Well, this is, this is, I mean, and of course the 0.99

01:23:00.000 monkey pox thing, we won't get too much into detail about that just because.

01:23:05.000 It's a family-friendly show.

01:23:06.000 It probably is a family-friendly show, but I just find it interesting that the thing that is associated with the spread of monkeypox was like the one thing that we were not willing to prohibit because we believe so deeply in human freedom and political liberty when we were willing to tell people not to go to their jobs or to visit loved ones in the hospital or attend funerals for loved ones during the COVID pandemic.

01:23:26.000 It just shows you where the priorities of the regime are.

01:23:28.000 We just don't want to be bigoted.

01:23:30.000 I mean, I think it's worth noting, we sort of talked about this before the show, but Sam Perton is Openly, I don't know, gender fluid, all sorts of interesting hobbies.

01:23:40.000 He was featured in like a kink magazine.

01:23:42.000 I find it not at all surprising that this person is clearly not bound by any social norms or values.

01:23:51.000 Exhibitionist kleptomaniac.

01:23:52.000 Right!

01:23:53.000 He has been open about this.

01:23:55.000 He does not believe in the world that you live in.

01:23:57.000 He does not believe in anything else.

01:23:59.000 I'm sure I'm getting his pronouns wrong.

01:24:03.000 Of course he's stealing bags everywhere.

01:24:05.000 This last, like, moment of trust that we all take our own bags off the carousel does not apply to him because he doesn't need to be a part of that.

01:24:12.000 And it's hard for me not to read a level of entitlement into this.

01:24:15.000 Yeah, a level of entitlement.

01:24:16.000 I mean, I think that's true whenever you see somebody defying social expectations which are otherwise reasonable and acceptable.

01:24:23.000 It makes sense.

01:24:24.000 Every now and again, I get that there are barriers that need to be broken down, right?

01:24:27.000 You know, I like the idea of Chesterton's fence.

01:24:29.000 When you find a fence, figure out what it was for before you tear it down.

01:24:32.000 And sometimes, you know, maybe that fence is for something bad and it's okay to tear it down.

01:24:35.000 I'm not saying no one should ever defy expectation.

01:24:37.000 But what I am saying is when someone is defying expectations, when they are tearing down fences that very clearly have a person, of course there's a sense of entitlement there.

01:24:43.000 Do you guys know what happened to Sam Britton or what his status is right now?

01:24:46.000 Was he arrested?

01:24:48.000 He got arrested at his home in Maryland most recently.

01:24:50.000 So, with the bag stolen in Vegas, he was convicted, he had to pay a fine.

01:24:57.000 In Minnesota, a similar thing, brought up on charges, there was a fine, but also he had to undergo mental health evaluations as part of sort of a deal to lessen the charges against him.

01:25:08.000 I haven't gotten an update on what happened with the arrest in Maryland, which is connected to the DC airport, which presumably is this woman in Houston, unless there are more missing bags that we don't know about.

01:25:19.000 He said he fled, he was a fugitive of justice at some point?

01:25:25.000 That was what he was arrested under and I'm not sure how they're interpreting it.

01:25:28.000 I'm surprised he had to undergo a mental health examination because I can just take one look at him and see he's clearly sane.

01:25:33.000 I think that's why, they're like how could such a sane healthy individual like you get into stealing bags?

01:25:40.000 You just can't understand it.

01:25:41.000 So we actually in Britain have had two recent scandals of married men with children who have been on TV stations for a very long time.

01:25:49.000 One was a news reader, the other one hosted a daytime TV show.

01:25:53.000 They have claimed mental health scares once they've been caught trying to solicit photos or hook up with young men of teenage questionable age.

01:26:03.000 Wow.

01:26:03.000 Yes.

01:26:04.000 And one of them tried to get out ahead of it about a year and a half ago by saying that, oh, I'm coming out as gay and isn't this brave?

01:26:09.000 And then it turns out that he was having an affair. 0.67

01:26:11.000 Turns out I have to come out as brave because otherwise you might think I'm a terrible creep.

01:26:17.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:26:18.000 And what they end up doing is they retreat into saying, one, it's homophobic, to criticize this, and two, I've been checked into the hospital for a mental health emergency.

01:26:26.000 So we're going to leave this story alone for a while.

01:26:28.000 Yeah, you have to leave me out.

01:26:29.000 This is another important part of it, right?

01:26:31.000 I mean, look, no one is making the argument that every single person who struggles with any kind of perversion is trying to attack children, but the reality is, if you have they-them pronouns next to your name, any predatory behavior that you engage in is going to be defended by the media and by the left, and anyone who points out that you're doing something suspicious is going to be labeled a bigot.

01:26:51.000 But at some point you have to action speak for themselves.

01:26:56.000 That is the way of the world.

01:26:57.000 That is if we want to survive as a species, you cannot be like, well, you hurt all those people.

01:27:02.000 Okay.

01:27:03.000 Like, no, man, if you, if you, if, if something you didn't, this is goes for leadership as well.

01:27:07.000 If something you did causes maybe a surrender in Afghanistan and the death of children and, and people trying to flee the country being beheaded, like you're on the hook for that.

01:27:16.000 You can't just be like, Oh, I was 85 years old.

01:27:18.000 And I wasn't thinking about it.

01:27:20.000 Like I, I want some responsibility for these behaviors.

01:27:25.000 I have empathy for people with mental health issues, for sure, but at some point, you gotta be realistic about it.

01:27:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I have compassion for people who have mental health issues.

01:27:33.000 I don't have, like, that much compassion for the people who elect them.

01:27:36.000 I feel badly, in some sense, for Joe Biden, other than, you know, he put himself in this situation to an extent.

01:27:42.000 It was very hubristic.

01:27:43.000 I think there's an argument to be made that because of his steeply declined mental health that people in his family probably bear a Why would you even say that?

01:27:50.000 That's crazy.

01:27:51.000 I was gonna say, you can't blame all of his votes.

01:27:52.000 to him though I don't want to totally remove agency from him I mean he has his moments but

01:27:56.000 to an extent he seemed at least at the time when he began running to still be capable of making

01:28:00.000 decisions I think the people around him should have said don't do this you know you're too old

01:28:04.000 but of course not I mean he's a he's a he's a cash cow he may I you know call me crazy he may

01:28:09.000 even be the big guy that uh Hunter was uh referring to yeah well you can't blame all of his votes

01:28:13.000 that's crazy yeah I was gonna say you can't blame all of his votes some of them are dead

01:28:19.000 Yeah, I mean, look, they elected him because he's an elderly guy.

01:28:23.000 They could relate.

01:28:24.000 They felt representation.

01:28:25.000 Representation matters, I thought.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, well, this is... I think that's literally confirmed that... Did they actually literally confirm that... They found some people haven't been taken off the votes rolls, yes.

01:28:34.000 Yeah.

01:28:34.000 And so, suspect.

01:28:35.000 Well, I mean, I think ultimately with this story about Sam Burton, I'm gonna go back to it, is we know that we should have compassion for people who are struggling mentally or emotionally, right?

01:28:45.000 But that doesn't mean that we have to excuse this behavior, right?

01:28:48.000 Or elect them! 0.83

01:28:49.000 Or elect them! 0.83

01:28:50.000 Or, in this case, think that anything about what's happening is normal.

01:28:54.000 And I think that's one of the reasons that really I see this story most reported by more conservative-leaning outlets because You know, it drives home all the points of, look at this bizarre person who clearly does not respect any sort of traditional or conservative values, who would probably denounce them all, and this is one of the consequences.

01:29:12.000 In fact, this is a seemingly mild consequence because it doesn't really involve violence, right?

01:29:16.000 It's theft, it's terrible, but on the other hand, you know, we have seen more devastating results from people who are unstable in recent history.

01:29:28.000 Yeah.

01:29:30.000 This idea that we're seeing a violation of trust, the idea that you would get to take your own bag home from the airport, should serve as evidence that perhaps if we don't have a strong moral foundation that we all agree to and adhere by, that everything starts to fall apart.

01:29:45.000 Totally agree.

01:29:45.000 No, I totally agree with you on that.

01:29:46.000 And I'm sure we all agree on that point.

01:29:48.000 And when you look at someone like this particular character, a lot of the other people who have been pointed to positions in government lately or even elected, you kind of have to wonder how something like that could possibly have happened.

01:29:59.000 Of course, that's a rhetorical question.

01:30:01.000 We all know about the cultural changes that have occurred over the past several decades and the pressure that the media has put on average people.

01:30:06.000 But we've rerouted our thinking towards saying, It is mean, it is hurtful, it is terrible, and it is unacceptable to ever place someone in an outgroup on the basis of the way that they act, the way that they choose to dress.

01:30:18.000 Here's the thing, when you have a representative democracy, it's important that political leaders Represent you?

01:30:26.000 Who does he represent?

01:30:27.000 Is this someone who represents the average person?

01:30:29.000 What are you talking about?

01:30:31.000 About Biden?

01:30:31.000 Or Sam?

01:30:31.000 Well, I think Biden's actually a fair question.

01:30:33.000 It's fair to ask that question about him.

01:30:35.000 I would say Sam, particularly... Well, he wasn't elected.

01:30:38.000 He was appointed.

01:30:38.000 He was appointed, yeah, but my point is... Yes.

01:30:41.000 Exactly.

01:30:42.000 And what he represents are degenerates who are very easy to compromise. 0.54

01:30:47.000 Yes.

01:30:47.000 And that's the perverse incentive to appoint people who are well outside the norm, because they have a stake in the regime protecting them at all times, and going along with a very permissive, progressive orthodoxy.

01:30:57.000 Man, I'm very concerned with the levels of crime increases, with the economy, inflation and stuff.

01:31:03.000 I'm not into authoritarian crackdown in any way, but at some point, Well, I shouldn't say in any way.

01:31:09.000 There have been instances where countries have uprisings and they have to have some sort of authoritarian crackdown on the uprising to preserve the country, but I don't want that.

01:31:17.000 I don't want it to get to that point.

01:31:18.000 We should be able to talk through this and encourage people to stand up for themselves and take their property rights seriously.

01:31:26.000 I'm passionate, but unfortunately, not everyone's as smart as you.

01:31:30.000 That's not meant to be condescending at all.

01:31:31.000 Some people only respond to incentives and not ideas.

01:31:33.000 There are some people that, if given the system of permissions, will just go out and loot and burn and take what they want.

01:31:38.000 And that's why Naomi Bakayle cracking down on El Salvador. 1.00

01:31:40.000 You see the New York Times going, oh, this is illiberal.

01:31:42.000 It's like, yeah, but we're not going to get it wrong because they have skull face tattoos.

01:31:46.000 We know who the criminals are.

01:31:47.000 And then it turns out once you crack down on the criminal element, your country improves.

01:31:51.000 Yeah, absolutely, and I'll mention this, Ian, you've got to be careful with that, and I think maybe you're putting too much pressure on what you're supporting with the use of this term, authoritarian.

01:31:59.000 You're saying, well, maybe we need authoritarian crackdowns.

01:32:01.000 Well, who says a crackdown is always authoritarian?

01:32:03.000 If people are rioting in the streets and burning down innocent people's businesses, then they're the authoritarians, and civil authorities are just stepping in to promote the rights of the people who are being harmed by the the rioters but we're gonna head over to super chats right now so everybody please smash that like button share this video become a member at timcast.com so you can join us in the after show at 10 10 where viewers will be calling in live to talk with us

01:32:28.000 So we have from Waffle Sensei, Tim, if you're listening, blink twice if you're in danger.

01:32:35.000 He may take your spoons, he may take your beanie, but he will never take your freedom.

01:32:39.000 Firstly, why would you be asking him to blink twice when you can't even see him?

01:32:43.000 Does he think I'm Tim?

01:32:44.000 Is the beanie working?

01:32:45.000 Ooh, it's a disguise.

01:32:46.000 Why is he quoting a Scotsman in my presence?

01:32:49.000 I'm almost offended.

01:32:50.000 That's a fair point.

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:52.000 It's almost a hate crime.

01:32:53.000 It really was a psyop.

01:32:54.000 Yeah.

01:32:55.000 It was a psyop the entire time.

01:32:56.000 I think Tim is fine, you know, and sometimes people just, they just need to step away for a little bit.

01:33:01.000 Tim just tweeted out today he doesn't like MRIs.

01:33:04.000 Yeah, he doesn't enjoy MRIs.

01:33:06.000 Tim, blink twice.

01:33:07.000 Blink twice, T-bone.

01:33:09.000 Regenerate slowly, my man.

01:33:10.000 We have from Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:33:12.000 Shame is well done last night.

01:33:13.000 Cheers.

01:33:14.000 Thank you.

01:33:15.000 Have you seen the first edition of TimCast Discord News?

01:33:18.000 You're the main story.

01:33:19.000 It's pretty hilarious.

01:33:19.000 Yes, somebody did send that to me and I didn't find it funny.

01:33:22.000 Yeah, I think it's amazing that... I didn't find that funny.

01:33:25.000 I... I won't say anything.

01:33:27.000 I didn't find it funny.

01:33:28.000 I wasn't there.

01:33:29.000 It continued to level the same insane accusations at me.

01:33:31.000 I definitely didn't hear him giggle when he saw it on Twitter today.

01:33:34.000 That's definitely not Seamus' style.

01:33:36.000 Giggle? 0.79

01:33:37.000 A giggle?

01:33:37.000 Giggle?

01:33:38.000 First of all, no noise that has ever come out of my face could be described as a giggle, Hannah Clare.

01:33:42.000 You could do a giggle.

01:33:43.000 I could not do a giggle.

01:33:44.000 I've never done a giggle in my life.

01:33:45.000 Even when I laugh at something, it's a hardy manly laugh.

01:33:48.000 What if it's a hard G, like jiggle?

01:33:51.000 No, no, neither of those.

01:33:52.000 I don't really think I jiggle all that much either.

01:33:53.000 I don't have enough body fat.

01:33:54.000 I'm just here to report what I heard.

01:33:56.000 I can't say it.

01:33:58.000 Once again, more fake news from the media.

01:34:00.000 More fake news from the liberal press.

01:34:03.000 Nate Perreault says, hey Connor, glad to see you here.

01:34:06.000 Thank you.

01:34:06.000 Big fan of the Lotus Eaters and as the most bass person there, you're my favorite.

01:34:12.000 Keep up the good work and spread Truth, my guy.

01:34:15.000 Base person at the Lotus Eaters.

01:34:16.000 He obviously thinks you're the most base person here, and he's wrong.

01:34:18.000 So that's funny, because someone else today, a certain Roland Ratt on Twitter, pseudonym of an academic named Nima Parvini, he said my colleague Harry was the most base person.

01:34:28.000 And I did get my back up about that, so myself and the Northern Monkey himself will be dueling it out, I'm sure.

01:34:33.000 At your office, instead of having Employee of the Month, do you have, like, Base Person of the Month?

01:34:37.000 I mean, how does this work?

01:34:39.000 So there is a Discord channel that used to exist called Josh's Based Takes, from which I will not read out because I will not incriminate my friend, but I think Josh might have had a monopoly on that for quite a while.

01:34:48.000 Dude, how's Lotus Eaters going, by the way?

01:34:50.000 Like, do you guys have any public plans coming up?

01:34:52.000 So we've just moved to new studios, so that's really cool.

01:34:54.000 We've just unveiled that because beforehand, A bit of behind the scenes.

01:34:58.000 It was just one room, and we had a curtain separating our filming stuff, so as soon as we were recording, the lights would go off and every writer was in the room, had to be silent because it was all open plan office.

01:35:07.000 Now we've got two new studios, one's a bit of a library, one's the five-person roundtable, it's really cool.

01:35:12.000 We might do a third one, we'll see what we cobble together.

01:35:15.000 And then future expansion plans, there might be some stuff in the works, but now we're just really glad that we get to record more concurrent content, more hosts, and I believe Stelios Karl and Bo did a discussion on the Epic of Gilgamesh which was four hours the other day.

01:35:28.000 So that's the kind of stuff we're going to do going forward.

01:35:30.000 Is this what you saw yourself doing when you went into debt for your university degree?

01:35:35.000 What did you see yourself doing?

01:35:36.000 I wasn't really sure because I didn't really get into politics until my second year.

01:35:40.000 And what ended up happening was I was finding myself arguing with all of the other seminar participants that bothered to show up and the seminar leader when I thought I was stating observable truths.

01:35:48.000 And we actually had, and I don't think I've told this story before, so this should be fun.

01:35:52.000 TimCast exclusive.

01:35:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I won't incriminate myself.

01:35:56.000 We had invited, as part of the Student Society, we have like a Students for Liberty chapter, so very tepid, very free speech.

01:36:01.000 We'd invited my current boss, Carl Benjamin, to speak and Antifa, Well, the Feminist Society showed up in coordination with the student union who were elected at the time, and this was published in the student newspaper, to quote, bait them into being abusive to start fights to shut the society down. 0.82

01:36:15.000 My then-girlfriend had her work called to try and get her fired, they spray-painted and defaced the side of the sports stadium, they made threats when we had an Israeli and Palestinian ambassador show up at the first UK university to do that, and then they decided to get into our group chat and fabricate screenshots of edgy jokes to make us look really bad.

01:36:34.000 And so we got sat in front of a university tribunal, free speech tribunal, where genuinely the diversity inclusion coordinator had brought up quotes from Der Stormer saying, oh, the Nazis use humor to recruit their members, so that's what you guys have been doing.

01:36:45.000 And the person that was chairing that particular tribunal um was one of the student union members that had tried to start the fight on campus so conflict of interest completely overblown we got chewed out for it so then after that um my friend decided to set up a little think tank thing trying to tell the uk government they were spending too much money on environmental policy i joined that i wrote a little bit on the side and then i abandoned the government thing because they barely listened to me they listened once and then not the rest of it frustrating and then just sort of went into commentary and tv and whatnot accidentally uh so yeah long story short

01:37:16.000 No, didn't think I'd be here.

01:37:17.000 Bit surreal, actually.

01:37:18.000 How'd you meet Karl?

01:37:19.000 So, other than him coming to the university campus, I went to university with Callum.

01:37:25.000 And so, Callum and I have known each other for a few years.

01:37:28.000 But I went to a Load Caesars live event, and Karl had, like, a bit of an adverse first impression of me, but I started telling stories, and he was like, oh, you're alright, actually, you're not much of a knob as I thought.

01:37:38.000 And then, so, I got invited as a guest, just to do a sort of guest podcast.

01:37:42.000 It was meant to be with a former employee, but he wasn't showing up for the day, so.

01:37:45.000 So I ended up doing one with Callum, and then Carl just went to me, oh, do you want to come and get a cup of tea, have a chat?

01:37:49.000 And I was like, yeah, yeah, thanks for bringing me.

01:37:50.000 And he just went, so when do you start?

01:37:52.000 So that was, yeah, that was really cool.

01:37:53.000 Yeah, they didn't even have to interview for it, and I'm very thankful.

01:37:53.000 Nice.

01:37:56.000 You're like, I start next week, or?

01:37:56.000 What did you say?

01:37:58.000 I was like, well, I need to figure out how to get here, slash how to move here, and, you know.

01:38:03.000 But yeah, no, I'm very enthusiastic.

01:38:05.000 And the thing, the lovely thing about Lotus Eaters is that we have actually built a parallel institution where all of us are good friends.

01:38:09.000 Like, some of those guys, and I don't want to sound soft, but some of those guys are like my brothers.

01:38:14.000 I've had a hit and miss year.

01:38:16.000 Professionally great, personally a bit rough, and they've been there for me.

01:38:18.000 So I'm very thankful to Carl and all those guys for putting that together.

01:38:21.000 That's great, man.

01:38:22.000 No, it's good that he's building something over there, right?

01:38:25.000 He decided to move outside of just having a brand based on his personality and started welcoming other people into that.

01:38:31.000 Well, he's got four kids, you know, he's a busy guy.

01:38:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:35.000 From cti29, this is actually really heartbreaking.

01:38:39.000 Someone I know's 17-year-old daughter got an abortion today at 13 weeks.

01:38:43.000 I'm just asking for prayers for the family.

01:38:45.000 I can tell it hurt them and it seemed like they thought there was no other option.

01:38:49.000 And so in a lot of these situations, a person feels like there's no other option, and that's why they do it.

01:38:55.000 But there is always another option.

01:38:57.000 There is always hope.

01:38:58.000 There is always a way for that child to live.

01:39:01.000 Yeah.

01:39:02.000 And thrive.

01:39:04.000 I think this is one of the things that we should be most irritated and most infuriated about about modern culture, which is you'll get articles from Teen Vogue that say, this is how you comfort your friend after she gets an abortion.

01:39:15.000 It's obviously targeted to young women in their 20s probably, even younger, it's teen

01:39:19.000 Vogue, and they act like there are no consequences to this decision. Ultimately, you're gonna be

01:39:24.000 happy you did it because your life is messed up by the results of decisions you made. And I think that is

01:39:33.000 just horrific, right? It is, it is.

01:39:37.000 It's fear-mongering, too, for all the time they spend accusing the right of fear-mongering.

01:39:41.000 The left fear-mongers about human life.

01:39:43.000 We have too many people in the world.

01:39:44.000 It's going to be horrible.

01:39:45.000 Everyone's going to starve.

01:39:46.000 If you have that child, you'll never achieve your dreams.

01:39:48.000 Your life will be horrible.

01:39:49.000 And then they accuse us of being emotionally manipulative for wanting to show people ultrasounds, which literally just show you a picture of what the child whose life you're contemplating ending looks like.

01:39:57.000 You tell me what's more manipulative.

01:39:58.000 Telling someone they're never going to be happy if they have this child?

01:40:01.000 Or showing them the child?

01:40:02.000 That's how weak this argument is, though.

01:40:04.000 One, the image of one sonogram could change everything for someone.

01:40:08.000 That's why you can't see that there's actual life that you're terminating through an abortion.

01:40:13.000 You're supposed to be completely separate from it.

01:40:15.000 So think of it like getting a haircut, maybe, or just something innocuous, which is completely misleading, right?

01:40:22.000 You should be Fully informed about the decisions you make.

01:40:24.000 Of course, a young person, a 17 year old, can't fully understand the consequences of all of their actions.

01:40:30.000 On the other hand, we can't act like abortion is an emotionless run-of-the-mill thing.

01:40:37.000 Yeah, so let's all say some prayers for that family.

01:40:40.000 We need your body.

01:40:41.000 Yeah, we have from Matthew Hammond, Connor made it on Timcast IRL before Carl Benjamin!

01:40:47.000 Look at that!

01:40:48.000 Yes, well, it coincided with a general trip of mine, and thank you to Serge for saying, you know, this guy might not be terrible.

01:40:57.000 No, Carl is just genuinely so busy.

01:40:59.000 Like, I did say to him, do you want to conjoin our trips and come do stuff?

01:41:02.000 Because, you know, we had potential other plans and other shows that we're asking.

01:41:05.000 And he just couldn't make it out this time because it was too short notice.

01:41:07.000 He's just had his fourth child.

01:41:09.000 He's less than six months old.

01:41:11.000 Yeah, so he's building an empire both at Lotus Caesars and at home.

01:41:14.000 And yeah, so hopefully he will be able to come over either later in the year or early next year and you guys will get the preferred candidate.

01:41:20.000 So that's fine.

01:41:21.000 I felt like this was great.

01:41:22.000 I wouldn't swap you for it.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, I wouldn't swap you at all.

01:41:24.000 It's the tip of the spear.

01:41:25.000 We have from nosoupfornolescamefortim... Who the EFF is this guy?

01:41:31.000 So, for those of you who don't know, Nosoupfornoles is an unbelievably terrible woman who does the voices for the female characters in Freedom Tunes. 0.97

01:41:42.000 Just, you know, I would have...

01:41:44.000 I'd fire her instantly if I had any other option, but unfortunately, women refuse to talk to you when you're a cartoonist. 1.00

01:41:50.000 So, yeah, it's an unfortunate reality, but she likes doing the cartoons, she treats me very poorly, it's really horrible.

01:41:59.000 No soup for gnolls.

01:42:00.000 Yeah, no soup for gnolls.

01:42:01.000 That's so funny.

01:42:03.000 I love that you're gonna dodge this question.

01:42:05.000 Who is this guy?

01:42:06.000 You're like, just attacking the person who raised the question.

01:42:09.000 Listen, she's... 0.92

01:42:11.000 We have from Joe Mallett, Ian, Jiu Jitsu.

01:42:14.000 Do it!

01:42:15.000 Started at 30 and wish I had sooner.

01:42:16.000 Heading to my class now.

01:42:18.000 I'm very open to that.

01:42:20.000 Phil Labonte, you know, does Jiu Jitsu a little bit. 0.99

01:42:22.000 I won't, not, you know, a little bit, but he's actually been having, I think he said he had a knee injury from it a month ago, a few months ago, which is a pain in the ass, so. 0.96

01:42:29.000 You know, one step at a time, but I'd have to cut my hair, I think. 0.87

01:42:32.000 I'm not comfortable going in there and grappling with long hair.

01:42:35.000 No, women braid their hair. 1.00

01:42:36.000 You should wear like a bathing cap.

01:42:37.000 No, no, wear like one of those bathing caps.

01:42:38.000 You can be like Corn Pop in there, bro.

01:42:40.000 Skin tone, yeah.

01:42:42.000 Skin tone bathing cap, maybe.

01:42:44.000 Clay Guida was a great grappler, and he's always had really long, wild caveman hair.

01:42:48.000 It's just part of the aesthetic.

01:42:49.000 Wild, okay.

01:42:51.000 When I roll back on my back, I don't like it pulling, so I'd have to get it up and bound somehow.

01:42:56.000 We just gotta teach you to French braid your own hair.

01:42:58.000 I'm telling you.

01:42:58.000 Have you not seen Women's UFC?

01:43:00.000 That's the key.

01:43:00.000 Alright, I'm into it.

01:43:01.000 You just gotta do it.

01:43:01.000 You gotta braid your hair, Ian.

01:43:03.000 They'll lose their minds.

01:43:04.000 They'll accuse you of, like, cultural appropriation or something like that.

01:43:07.000 Every minute of that.

01:43:10.000 Oh my goodness.

01:43:12.000 We have here from Agamemnon's Gym Bag, that's a great name, I bet North FC loves Trump.

01:43:19.000 Good to see you, Connor.

01:43:20.000 One of the best Lotus, one of the best on the Lotus eaters.

01:43:23.000 Oh, thank you very much.

01:43:24.000 Yeah, he actually super chatted in quite a while ago, plugging one of my segments to Tim, which was, which was appreciated.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, are you guys familiar with North FC?

01:43:31.000 No.

01:43:32.000 Okay, so you know Soy Jacks?

01:43:34.000 The, like, open-mouthed glasses guy that's pointing.

01:43:37.000 It's, like, kind of that art style.

01:43:39.000 I don't know if you'll be able to pull up a photo of it, Serge, but it's, like, a big, podgy man, poorly, crudely drawn, and he'll say very basic things that, like, anyone with sense would agree with.

01:43:49.000 It's, like, you know the theologian and the... I think I've seen this meme, yeah.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:53.000 And he'll just be, like, love me country, love me wife, love me Greggs, hit the globalist, simple as.

01:43:58.000 And it's like the trustworthy British pub man you'll find anywhere that is the heart of the country.

01:44:03.000 Yeah, he does enjoy Trump.

01:44:05.000 Yes.

01:44:06.000 Yeah.

01:44:06.000 That's it.

01:44:07.000 That's Baz.

01:44:08.000 There he is.

01:44:09.000 What's his name again?

01:44:10.000 Baz.

01:44:10.000 B-A-Z.

01:44:11.000 It's North FC.

01:44:12.000 North FC.

01:44:13.000 That's the gentleman in question.

01:44:14.000 Okay.

01:44:15.000 Yeah.

01:44:15.000 And it's a solid meme.

01:44:16.000 I've seen it.

01:44:17.000 I've seen it a number of times.

01:44:19.000 I assumed it was... Looks like a Mike Judge character.

01:44:22.000 It actually does look a bit like a Mike Judge character.

01:44:24.000 Actually does.

01:44:24.000 But he's got a very trustworthy face.

01:44:26.000 That's the point.

01:44:27.000 I would say so.

01:44:27.000 I think I trust the guy.

01:44:28.000 He's seen things.

01:44:31.000 Is he gonna make an appearance in Freedom Dunes?

01:44:33.000 I can't just plagiarize somebody else's character.

01:44:35.000 That's true.

01:44:36.000 I mean, you can.

01:44:36.000 Except for Joe Biden.

01:44:38.000 He is one of the only funny SNL characters to ever have been created.

01:44:43.000 I refuse to believe he's real.

01:44:47.000 We have from Saddle F-ing Tramp Trump.

01:44:52.000 I'm sorry.

01:44:53.000 I have to commend Seamus as a potato American Catholic being so civil with a British Protestant. 0.85

01:44:59.000 British Protestant, that's insulting! 1.00

01:45:02.000 I'm the British Protestant, just so everyone knows.

01:45:04.000 Yeah, you're Canadian.

01:45:05.000 I'm British Canadian, and I was born in America.

01:45:07.000 And that's why I'm never civil with H.C.

01:45:09.000 Yeah, you'll be hearing from my priest.

01:45:10.000 No, I'm a... My bishop!

01:45:12.000 I am actually an Irish Catholic, half of my family from Donegal.

01:45:15.000 If my mum slash nan hadn't been married, my name would either be Connor James McDade or Connor James Daly.

01:45:21.000 And he's Irish on his mum's side, which means he's actually Irish.

01:45:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:45:24.000 Were you born in Ireland?

01:45:25.000 No, no, no.

01:45:26.000 My nan was, and she had the accent until she moved over. 0.95

01:45:29.000 So, uh, yes, yeah.

01:45:30.000 We're good.

01:45:31.000 Um...

01:45:32.000 So are you or your company's diversity higher, though?

01:45:36.000 Yeah, technically the Irish aren't white, so it's me and Callum are black.

01:45:39.000 That's what I've heard.

01:45:39.000 Josh is quite swarthy.

01:45:40.000 Stelios is Greek, so he's technically black.

01:45:42.000 Here's the thing.

01:45:43.000 In the US, the Irish are considered white, but the Irish were only considered white.

01:45:47.000 What's being white meant you had to apologize for being white. 0.78

01:45:49.000 So we really got in at the worst possible time to get in on being white. 1.00

01:45:57.000 Red Rummix says, M in UK, medical job, had training today on how to write gender-neutral reports so we cannot say she or he.

01:46:07.000 We are not allowed to use any pronouns at all.

01:46:09.000 Madness.

01:46:10.000 That is madness.

01:46:10.000 Because that's going to be a great way to communicate.

01:46:12.000 That's going to be super clear.

01:46:14.000 That's anecdotal, but that's concerning if that's true.

01:46:16.000 That is how the NHS management staff are run.

01:46:19.000 The diversity inclusion coordinators over there go for 70,000 to 80,000 pounds salaried a year.

01:46:26.000 The NHS, by the way, just to dismantle any romanticism about universal healthcare and how it normally plays out to an American audience, we have an exponentially increasing budget that can never meet demand, and the amount that we spend on bureaucracy is hellish, and so there's this trickle-up effect.

01:46:45.000 Like, thousands of pounds painting rainbow crosswalks outside of the hospitals every year.

01:46:51.000 Well, it saves lives.

01:46:52.000 It saves lives, exactly.

01:46:53.000 How do they know they're gonna be safe at that hospital?

01:46:56.000 The rainbow sidewalks, I'm convinced they're only there so that the lefties can have their persecution complex validated every single time there's a skid mark on it.

01:47:03.000 Like, why would you put your sacred symbolism on a street?

01:47:06.000 Also, how can you be the minority group if we're painting your group symbol on something like this?

01:47:10.000 It doesn't make sense!

01:47:12.000 It literally makes no sense.

01:47:13.000 It literally makes absolutely no sense.

01:47:15.000 That's what I find so exhausting is trying to, like, grapple with the logic or their lack of logic from the other side, because I do feel obligated to sort of consider where someone would be coming from.

01:47:25.000 But at a certain point you have to just say, like, you know you don't make sense, right?

01:47:28.000 Not because I mean, it's just that you don't make any sense.

01:47:31.000 Exactly.

01:47:32.000 Exactly.

01:47:32.000 S.A.

01:47:34.000 Federale says, Connor, England has nothing in regards to aristocrats.

01:47:39.000 They wrote an entire joke called The Aristocrats about the Biden family.

01:47:42.000 What are your thoughts?

01:47:44.000 Uh, England does still have somewhat of an aristocracy.

01:47:47.000 It's just that they don't really consider our concerns anymore.

01:47:50.000 This is kind of the... Oh, I'm going to upset your show.

01:47:52.000 This is kind of the great lie of democracy.

01:47:54.000 It doesn't really matter whether or not every mechanism is based on consent.

01:47:59.000 It matters whether or not the landowning gentry are substantively... They see you as part of their moral constituency.

01:48:05.000 Yeah.

01:48:06.000 The American aristocracy, yeah, sure, they're elected, sort of.

01:48:08.000 I mean, gerrymandering and all that.

01:48:11.000 But they consider the people they rule over less than a feudal lord would have consideration for his peasants.

01:48:17.000 And we still have an aristocracy to an extent.

01:48:20.000 I mean, the House of Lords is still appointed as peerages by the Prime Minister, and they're very rich people in that.

01:48:26.000 They get final say on legislation and whatnot.

01:48:29.000 It's just that a lot of the aristocracy are captured by progressive ideals, so they don't even have the old class dynamic anymore.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, no, I think that's interesting and there's definitely something to that.

01:48:37.000 One thing I love, which Hans Hermann Hoppe said, is that part of what democracy does is it eliminates class consciousness, right?

01:48:45.000 So people who are lower on the authority hierarchy don't really see themselves as separate from their leaders because they've gotten to choose them.

01:48:52.000 Like, make no mistake, you are in separate classes.

01:48:55.000 You are absolutely in separate classes.

01:48:57.000 And I agree with you that not every mechanism, like the idea that every mechanism within government being based on consent is what makes it functional is absolutely nonsensical.

01:49:06.000 Obviously, there are certain people who are unappointed bureaucrats, and I have issue with that if you're in a nation which prides itself on being democratic.

01:49:12.000 But ultimately, what's important is that we have laws that help a man reach his final end, which help a man to live virtuously, have a good life, be able to provide for his family, the things that actually matter to people.

01:49:24.000 I'm there with you.

01:49:25.000 ThinkOnThis says, as a former university employee, I say raid the university endowments to pay off student loans.

01:49:32.000 Who do you think benefited from lying to people about the positives of 1. higher education and 2. taking out loans?

01:49:38.000 Okay, so here's where I'm going to disagree with you on this.

01:49:41.000 For as much as I am sympathetic to making the colleges pay for this, if you raid that What you're essentially doing is taking the money that people who have already paid off their debt financed and then giving it to people who haven't paid off their debts.

01:49:54.000 If you're going to redistribute the endowments, if you're going to redistribute the money that these universities got, it actually makes more sense to redistribute that money to college-educated people who already paid off their loans.

01:50:03.000 Is there any university in America that, because a lot of endowments are generated through fundraising through alumni, are there any colleges in America that say to their alumni, hey, you could donate directly to someone's student loan debt?

01:50:15.000 Oh, that's a great idea!

01:50:16.000 Instead of scholarships, why don't we just say, like, you could give me $10,000 and we will actually give it to the kid who's in $10,000 worth of student loan debt.

01:50:23.000 Sponsorships, essentially.

01:50:24.000 Right, I don't understand why it's always, you know, I understand the point of scholarships, and I understand, although I don't always agree with why universities fundraise, but if we wanted to have a forgiveness program, wouldn't it be interesting to have, you know, the alumni of a school say, the student has taken out loans, they seem to be performing well academically, I want to pay off their loan.

01:50:42.000 And the schools that get- Why are we having this third party- The ones that have more repayments through that kind of process would have more people applying to them.

01:50:51.000 And there would be an expectation that when you became, if you were an alumni in a position where it was financially viable, you would then contribute in a similar way.

01:50:59.000 And that system would be really cool.

01:51:01.000 But instead we're like, no, no, give your money to the college to then, I don't know, waste.

01:51:06.000 That's a great idea.

01:51:07.000 That's a really good idea.

01:51:08.000 Then that's the thing, even though, as I mentioned, a person ends up making more as a result of having a college education, I still think degrees are massively overpriced, and so the fact that you'd pay more for something than you should have, and then they would ask you for more money is totally wild.

01:51:22.000 Just the audacity.

01:51:24.000 C.S.

01:51:25.000 Cooper says, Connor, so awesome to see you stateside.

01:51:29.000 When can we expect Lotus Eaters USA division?

01:51:33.000 P.S.

01:51:33.000 Tal Kalamai said, dot dot dot dot.

01:51:37.000 So, CS Cooper, we have video comments for any of our paying members.

01:51:42.000 So if they pay us the gold tier, which is just £30 a month, they can send in a video comment at the end of our podcast and interact with us.

01:51:49.000 And Craig, who pays his monthly subscription, uses it very kindly to promote his books.

01:51:54.000 We're building culture, I suppose.

01:51:56.000 But yeah, Lotus Seat is USA division.

01:51:59.000 We do not quite have the budget to expand to that at this point.

01:52:02.000 Though, if we are chased out the country, I mean, we might just become de facto Lotus Seat is USA division.

01:52:06.000 So, who knows?

01:52:08.000 Well, just come join us in West Virginia.

01:52:09.000 That'd be fun.

01:52:10.000 Don't tempt me.

01:52:11.000 Yeah, it feels like karma.

01:52:13.000 Unbelievable. Alan Shurer says, clearly YouTube is holding Freedom Tunes accountable for

01:52:19.000 under house dwelling people stealing spoons.

01:52:20.000 So this is exactly the problem with spreading misinformation.

01:52:23.000 This is exactly the problem with spreading misinformation on the internet.

01:52:27.000 There's no evidence. I ever stole spoons.

01:52:31.000 But there's karmic justice.

01:52:31.000 There's no evidence that I live, there is not, and there's also no evidence that I live under Tim's house and steal his spoons.

01:52:38.000 This is ridiculous.

01:52:39.000 But I think there's actually credibility to this theory that I'm being falsely punished for crimes that I did not commit because Tim Pool, this is, you know what, I'm gonna have to talk to the Daily Beast about this one.

01:52:51.000 Last week I saw Seamus emerge from the basement.

01:52:54.000 Actually, I didn't see you emerge, I just saw you emerge from where the basement is.

01:52:58.000 From that area.

01:52:59.000 And then I saw you walk over to a berry bush and just pick some berries and then eat them.

01:53:02.000 That actually did happen.

01:53:04.000 And then he walked back.

01:53:05.000 Hold on, hold on! 0.90

01:53:06.000 How did I eat them?

01:53:07.000 One finger at a time.

01:53:08.000 Interesting, so no spoon was used when I ate the berries.

01:53:11.000 Do you think suffering through these allegations will make you stronger in the end?

01:53:16.000 I think it will make me stronger as a person, yeah.

01:53:18.000 And that should scare all of you.

01:53:19.000 Yeah.

01:53:20.000 So do you think you actually benefit from this misinformation?

01:53:22.000 It's a trial that you are therefore benefiting from?

01:53:24.000 I think things that happen to you are all things that you can benefit from, ultimately.

01:53:30.000 But that doesn't mean it's not an injustice.

01:53:32.000 And it is an injustice.

01:53:33.000 Should we release a formal spoon count of how many spoons are available on property and what that compares to?

01:53:39.000 I mean, I had never counted before.

01:53:40.000 Now you want a nanny state to go around and count every spoon on the property? 1.00

01:53:43.000 I just feel like we have to do an in-depth study, right? 0.98

01:53:46.000 This is ridiculous!

01:53:46.000 We can't say if the spoons are missing if we don't know how many spoons we have.

01:53:51.000 And Tim won't even come back.

01:53:52.000 Maybe he bought spoons and can drop them? 0.99

01:53:54.000 This is garbage. This is nonsense. 1.00

01:53:56.000 It's just been going on for too long.

01:53:58.000 We can't say if the spoons are missing if we don't know how many spoons we have.

01:54:01.000 And Tim won't even come back? He's so angry.

01:54:03.000 I'm joking by the way you guys.

01:54:07.000 Geez, everyone was quiet.

01:54:08.000 No, he left because he's stealing his stuff.

01:54:10.000 He's not mad at you, Ian.

01:54:12.000 He's not mad at you.

01:54:13.000 He just needed to take a break, go to the farm, hang out, you know.

01:54:17.000 He'll come back.

01:54:18.000 Tim will be back next week.

01:54:19.000 Everyone's like, Tim, he's the only reason this show's good!

01:54:23.000 It depends.

01:54:23.000 If I allow Tim to come back, he'll be back, but we're gonna have to see about that.

01:54:28.000 Stefan Vida, or I'm sorry, Veda.

01:54:31.000 What is wrong with me?

01:54:33.000 Unbelievable.

01:54:33.000 Interesting number.

01:54:34.000 Ukraine uses 5,000 artillery shells per day.

01:54:38.000 U.S.

01:54:38.000 makes 80,000 per year.

01:54:40.000 Russia is estimated to make 700,000 to 3.3 million per year.

01:54:45.000 And Biden says we're low on ammunition.

01:54:48.000 This isn't good.

01:54:51.000 I gotta hear those numbers again.

01:54:53.000 Ukraine uses 5... I feel like I'm reading a word problem almost now.

01:54:57.000 Ukraine uses 5,000 artillery shells per day.

01:54:58.000 The US makes 80,000 per year.

01:54:59.000 Russia is estimated to make 700,000 to 3.3 million per year.

01:55:00.000 And Biden says we're low on ammunition.

01:55:01.000 This isn't good.

01:55:02.000 What were the numbers? Ukraine uses 5,000 artillery shells per day. The U.S. makes 80,000 per year.

01:55:07.000 Russia is estimated to make 700,000 to 3.3 million per year.

01:55:11.000 And Biden says we're low on ammunition. This isn't good. Interesting. That is. Yes,

01:55:15.000 I agree.

01:55:16.000 Joe Biden talking is not good.

01:55:17.000 I've never been a fan.

01:55:19.000 I know we haven't touched on Ukraine at all and I'm no foreign policy expert, but my position on it is I'm a little Englander and I don't want to pay for either country.

01:55:26.000 That's just a radical take, I suppose.

01:55:29.000 Just completely illogical.

01:55:30.000 How could you do this, people of Ukraine? 1.00

01:55:32.000 That's like calling somebody... It's weird, we have this term isolationist.

01:55:35.000 Like, it's antisocial to not want to go to war with other people.

01:55:39.000 Like, what?

01:55:39.000 I'm not saying we can't trade with other people or be friends with other people.

01:55:42.000 I'm saying don't go to war with them.

01:55:44.000 What?

01:55:44.000 What's more isolating?

01:55:46.000 Being at peace with other countries or going to war with them?

01:55:48.000 You tell me.

01:55:51.000 Blanks, B-L-E-N-C-Z, says, yes! 1.00

01:55:55.000 With an exclamation point.

01:55:55.000 So that's... YES!

01:55:57.000 My two favorite Catholic political commentators are on the same show.

01:56:01.000 Question for Connor.

01:56:02.000 What has been your favorite and least favorite part about visiting the States?

01:56:06.000 Also, when is the next Comics Corner happening?

01:56:09.000 Okay, so Comics Corner's coming out, I think tomorrow might be.

01:56:13.000 Depends on if our wonderful editor Jack has been doing double time since I've been away.

01:56:18.000 It's on the history of comics, part one.

01:56:20.000 We're gonna have another berserk one coming out soon as well. 1.00

01:56:22.000 It's very Inside Baseball, guys.

01:56:23.000 Basically, Carl pays us to talk about comics once a month.

01:56:25.000 I love my job.

01:56:28.000 So, visiting the state.

01:56:30.000 I feel like a smurf because everything is massive here.

01:56:32.000 Like, why do you have four-lane roads?

01:56:33.000 That would be a highway where I'm from. 0.98

01:56:35.000 This is ridiculous.

01:56:36.000 But I can tell that if the revival is going to come from somewhere, it's definitely going to come from here first.

01:56:40.000 And because you guys still have a deep sense of social texture, even in deep blue Massachusetts, there was a two-to-one ratio of national flags to pride flags.

01:56:48.000 There is still latent Christianity here.

01:56:50.000 I mean, I'll paraphrase Nietzsche, who I don't like.

01:56:52.000 But he was right in that if God is considered dead culturally, then the great cathedrals of Europe will become the sepulchres and mausoleums to a dead idea.

01:57:00.000 And that is largely what has unfortunately happened with both the hollowing out of the congregations in the UK, and also, like, the Archbishop of York coming out and saying the Lord's Prayer is patriarchal and oppressive.

01:57:11.000 It is patriarchal, yes.

01:57:13.000 Yes, that's what I like.

01:57:13.000 But that's our whole thing.

01:57:15.000 I got news for you, the universe is a patriarchy.

01:57:17.000 We have a king.

01:57:18.000 Like, that's it.

01:57:20.000 Well, that's one way to look at it.

01:57:21.000 No!

01:57:22.000 Ian, you're banned. 0.66

01:57:24.000 If you want the worldview that posits that I'm some kind of lunatic spoon thief, then you go with whatever.

01:57:32.000 We'll go into it on the after show.

01:57:33.000 I think the comment on the highway is the best one.

01:57:36.000 If you've ever driven in England, Americans can't do it, especially if you're in more rural areas trying to go down any road. 0.97

01:57:43.000 You'll see these cars Speed towards each other and just narrowly skate one another.

01:57:47.000 It's terrifying.

01:57:49.000 That is the only thing that I have experienced.

01:57:50.000 I've had friends who have tried to encourage me to move out here, and this is Hitchin's position being Denethor, you know, flee, flee for your lives, England is lost. 0.75

01:58:00.000 And it's not that I'm not sympathetic, and I have come to love this country quite a bit, but I just feel like I would be alien were I tried to call anywhere else home.

01:58:08.000 So for a little while, I'll stay and fight until I'm pushed out.

01:58:10.000 Are the roads in England, are they just old?

01:58:12.000 Is that why they're smaller and they don't handle cars very well?

01:58:15.000 Yes, we're not a super industrial town.

01:58:17.000 Not town.

01:58:18.000 Country.

01:58:19.000 Country.

01:58:19.000 Like, you don't get, like, Ford F-150 pickup trucks.

01:58:23.000 Nope.

01:58:23.000 It's just completely smaller scale.

01:58:25.000 Or freedom or toothbrushes or anything like that.

01:58:27.000 It's just like a typical country to live in.

01:58:28.000 Our teeth are fine, actually.

01:58:30.000 I know, it's like the number one stereotype.

01:58:31.000 You're skating on hate crimes right now, I will tell you.

01:58:33.000 Listen, I'll tell you this much.

01:58:35.000 I gotta be honest with you, man.

01:58:37.000 When you're talking about the U.S.

01:58:39.000 maybe having a resurgence or being the country that brings this stuff back, I hope you're right, but it sounds like it's really bad in Europe.

01:58:45.000 If you can be in a blue state and say, you know, things are pretty good here.

01:58:49.000 We don't fly our national flag.

01:58:51.000 So actually, so this is what most people don't understand.

01:58:53.000 The Union Jack, there are very few of them, but each country has its own national flag, and the Scottish and Welsh and that, they're Celtic nationalists, so they'll fly theirs.

01:59:01.000 England don't fly their national flag.

01:59:03.000 And actually, I think she was Shadow Foreign Secretary.

01:59:05.000 She might now be the Chief Lawyer of the Labour Party, which is going to be the incumbent government.

01:59:09.000 Emily Thornberry. 0.91

01:59:10.000 Grotesque woman. 1.00

01:59:11.000 She decided to tweet out a while ago a photo of a council flat with a white van and the English flag hanging outside the window because it was the World Cup or something. 0.95

01:59:18.000 And I don't know if she explicitly captioned it, disgusting, but I remember that being the vibe.

01:59:22.000 And it's the utter contempt the political establishment have for patriotism in our country.

01:59:26.000 It's near inescapable.

01:59:28.000 Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

01:59:30.000 I think a huge part of that is if you're actually patriotic to your country and you don't blindly obey your political leaders, that's a problem for them.

01:59:37.000 Actually having, you know, faith and concern and loyalty for and towards the values of your nation rather than whatever political leader happens to be in power or whatever movement is fashionable is absolutely a no-no.

01:59:48.000 You have to eliminate patriotism.

01:59:51.000 The dislike of nationalism sometimes because like we could have a global system of decentralized statehood, like we could just be a United States of Earth where everyone governs themselves locally.

02:00:01.000 And then we're all connected through like, you know, laws and internet regulate, but like, decentralized, it could be more decentralized, like we don't have to stop here at nationalism.

02:00:10.000 But tech is a homogenising force, that's the point.

02:00:12.000 It always has the ratchet effect to greater global surveillance, cultural ubiquity, because it's easier to itemise, and that's why it stratifies people into satiating their individual desires rather than having local, parochial, geographically bound values.

02:00:26.000 So, yeah, I'm very sceptical of the possibility of international cooperation to keep together any sort of cultural texture.

02:00:34.000 Yeah, yeah, especially at that scale.

02:00:36.000 Well, I want to thank you all for watching.

02:00:39.000 Thank you all for stopping by.

02:00:40.000 And also, everyone watching, if you enjoy the show, smash that like button, share the video.

02:00:45.000 And Conor, where can we find you?

02:00:47.000 Well, you can find most of my work over at lotuseaters.com.

02:00:50.000 You can find me on Twitter at at Con underscore Tomlinson, where I'll tweet out my articles for The Critic and my clips from GB News and whatnot.

02:00:58.000 Please go and support all of my colleagues' work.

02:01:00.000 Even if you don't like me, the Lotus Eaters is a big cast, so there might be something for you over on the website.

02:01:05.000 That's awesome.

02:01:06.000 I'm so glad you were here.

02:01:07.000 This is a great conversation.

02:01:09.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

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02:01:19.000 It's the bat.

02:01:19.000 I can't tell if you're gesturing at me.

02:01:22.000 Okay.

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02:01:29.000 Thank you so much.

02:01:30.000 Yes, that was lively.

02:01:31.000 I loved it.

02:01:32.000 Thank you, Connor.

02:01:33.000 That was awesome, man.

02:01:33.000 Good to meet you, dude.

02:01:35.000 You guys follow me on the internet at Ian Crossland.

02:01:38.000 This is the name right behind me here.

02:01:40.000 And I-N-C-R-O-S-S-L-A-N-D. 1.00

02:01:41.000 I used to think it was where my ancestors crossed the land.

02:01:44.000 Then I was told, like, no, that's where these crucified people. 0.99

02:01:47.000 I'm like, oh, damn. 0.99

02:01:47.000 Is that real? 0.99

02:01:48.000 Are you about to become a fitness influencer?

02:01:50.000 Yeah, so what I'm saying is my trainer, Brandon, took video of me today working out.

02:01:56.000 I have before pictures, so I'm going to be posting my journey videos on, I don't know, Twitter.

02:02:01.000 I think I'll focus them on Twitter.

02:02:02.000 I might put them up on Instagram as well, mine as well.

02:02:05.000 So follow me on all those platforms, and I'll be seeing you guys.

02:02:08.000 Yeah, again, thank you all for watching.

02:02:10.000 I'm Seamus Coghlan.

02:02:12.000 Oh, I'm so sorry, Serge, my man!

02:02:14.000 It's cool, man.

02:02:15.000 I'll just do the show.

02:02:17.000 I love you and I'm sorry.

02:02:21.000 It's all good, dude.

02:02:23.000 Thanks for joining us, Connor.

02:02:24.000 I really wanted to have this to happen.

02:02:27.000 I reached out to Cassandra, who does the booking.

02:02:29.000 It's not me.

02:02:29.000 Stop asking me.

02:02:30.000 I don't do anything for the booking.

02:02:32.000 Except in this case, then he intervenes.

02:02:33.000 Yes, I intervened because you hit me.

02:02:35.000 I hit me up on Twitter and I was like, yeah, if you're in town, I'm sure I can get you on the show.

02:02:39.000 Here we are.

02:02:39.000 Tim's not here, but you know, I can only do so much.

02:02:42.000 Not a miracle worker.

02:02:43.000 Uh, yeah.

02:02:44.000 Take it away, Seamus.

02:02:45.000 Yeah, so my name's Seamus Coghlan.

02:02:47.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes that I used to be able to get into.

02:02:51.000 We're hoping that's going to be able to get sorted out.

02:02:53.000 I'm optimistic it will because we clearly didn't violate TOS.

02:02:57.000 I think they're going to see it and realize it was a mistake.

02:02:59.000 But just in case something horrible happens or in case something like this happens in the future, we have a website.

02:03:03.000 It's called freedomtunes.com.

02:03:05.000 Please go over there.

02:03:06.000 All of our videos are there.

02:03:07.000 Bookmark that page if you're a fan of me because even in this situation where I think there was a mistake, well, I'm not able to get in and upload videos, so go over to FreedomTunes.com, bookmark it, and if you want to support what we're doing, please become a member.

02:03:23.000 You'll get an extra cartoon every week that we don't put on YouTube, and that is exclusive for members.

02:03:27.000 We're also going to be starting to put behind-the-scenes content up there.

02:03:30.000 Thank you all so much.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 19, 2023

Timcast IRL - Trump Expects ARREST In Connection To Jan 6 w- Connor Tomlinson of The Lotus Eaters

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