Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - TRUMP HAS JUST BEEN FEDERALLY INDICTED, Biden Crimes EXPOSED In New Docs w-Adam Weiss

00:00:00.000 Donald Trump has just announced that he has been informed he has been indicted by the

00:00:26.000 federal government by Biden's DOJ relating to the classified documents in his home.

00:00:32.000 This coming on a day when a new report has come out showing that Joe Biden received a bribe to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor from someone in Burisma.

00:00:43.000 Or I want to make sure we're very careful and very clear.

00:00:46.000 We've got what appears to be FBI confirmation that Joe Biden was bribed.

00:00:50.000 The bribery is related to firing the prosecutor.

00:00:53.000 What many people long suspected or believed.

00:00:56.000 We got a lot of big breaking news to talk about.

00:00:58.000 Donald Trump being indebted for the second time.

00:01:00.000 He'll likely be indebted a third time in Georgia.

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00:01:59.000 Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Adam Weiss.

00:02:03.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

00:02:05.000 Adam Weiss.

00:02:05.000 I'm CEO of AMWPR, Strategic Political Communications Company.

00:02:10.000 I'm the guy people call when they're in Rikers or real crisis situation happens and one of these old friends of mine who was in Rikers a dozen ago just texted me and said, Trump's been indicted again.

00:02:21.000 I can't believe this happened.

00:02:22.000 So it's a sad day in America and this shouldn't happen in our country.

00:02:27.000 Right on.

00:02:28.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

00:02:29.000 We also have Allad Eliyahu.

00:02:30.000 Hey, what's up, everybody?

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00:02:41.000 Seamus Coghlan!

00:02:42.000 Look who we have here, Elan, back again.

00:02:46.000 I'm Seamus.

00:02:48.000 I'm really excited for tonight's show.

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00:03:16.000 Hello everyone, Ian Crossland.

00:03:17.000 I am a wizard and a shaman.

00:03:20.000 Also, we have Serge Duprea.

00:03:22.000 Hey, yeah, I'm here.

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00:03:25.000 Good to see you, Elad, as always.

00:03:27.000 Let's do it.

00:03:28.000 All right, we have this from Truth Social.

00:03:30.000 Donald Trump has posted, saying, The corrupt Biden administration has informed my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly over the boxes hoax.

00:03:39.000 Even though Joe Biden has 1,850 boxes at the University of Delaware, additional boxes in Chinatown, D.C., with even more boxes at the University of Pennsylvania, and documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his Corvette, and which is, quote, secured by only a garage door that is paper thin and open much of the time.

00:03:58.000 He continues, I have been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m.

00:04:06.000 I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the United States who received far more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country and is currently leading by far all candidates both Democrat and Republican in polls of the 2024 presidential election.

00:04:21.000 I am an innocent man.

00:04:23.000 This is indeed a dark day for the United States of America.

00:04:27.000 We are a country in serious and rapid decline, but together we will make America great again.

00:04:33.000 Elon Musk has chimed in responding to ALX posting this saying, there does seem to be far higher interest in pursuing Trump compared to other people in politics.

00:04:43.000 Very important the justice system rebut what appears to be differential enforcement or they will lose public trust.

00:04:50.000 Elon, I appreciate the sentiment, but you are a couple years too late.

00:04:54.000 It's happening.

00:04:55.000 The federal indictment by the Biden DOJ is direct election interference.

00:05:00.000 It is subversion of the United States election.

00:05:03.000 It's just I don't even know what to say other than, you know, look man, I don't see how this country remains on this path.

00:05:11.000 I don't see how the United States stands and continues to function when you've got the sitting president filing an indictment against his chief rival.

00:05:20.000 And the same day, and we'll get to it in a minute, where evidence is coming out proving Biden is corrupt and was taking bribes.

00:05:27.000 Well, not just Biden, right?

00:05:28.000 The entire political establishment has been for a very long time and we've seen selective prosecutions occur.

00:05:33.000 I think in the case of Dinesh D'Souza, it was very obvious that his prosecution was politically motivated, though he did commit a crime.

00:05:39.000 It's one that typically Is not pursued in one which almost never carries the penalty which he received, which was jail time.

00:05:45.000 So this has been happening for a while here and now they're just moving on to higher and higher profile people like the former president of the United States and one of the number one polling people who's currently running in 2024.

00:05:55.000 When Donald Trump said that if he was in charge of the justice system in the United States, Hillary Clinton would be in jail. 0.84

00:06:01.000 In an absolutely brilliant moment, which was hilarious and very rhetorically effective, the response from the media was, this sets a very dangerous precedent.

00:06:08.000 Now, I think it's a little bit different, right?

00:06:10.000 Because there are things that Hillary Clinton has done that we can point to and say, almost anyone else who had done these things would at the very least be investigated and very likely be prosecuted.

00:06:21.000 Now with Donald Trump, what they're trying to nail him for is having classified documents, even though he as president had the authority to declassify them and did so.

00:06:32.000 So there's absolutely nothing here, but they want to lock him up because He is setting an example for the American people, and so now they need to make one out of him.

00:06:41.000 I sure think that Trump... I bet Trump regrets not prosecuting Hillary Clinton.

00:06:46.000 He was like, we're gonna lock her up!

00:06:48.000 And then as soon as he got elected, he's like, we're not gonna do it!

00:06:50.000 And now he's probably really upset that he didn't, because they're coming after him with everything they've got.

00:06:55.000 Well, he had a weak Justice Department from the beginning.

00:06:58.000 Remember, Sessions gave in right away.

00:07:00.000 It must have been a month into the administration.

00:07:02.000 They went after Flynn.

00:07:04.000 VP fired Flynn.

00:07:05.000 And we sat through four years of this Russia hoax.

00:07:09.000 Every day.

00:07:10.000 CNN, MSNBC, the whole mainstream media.

00:07:12.000 Russia hoax.

00:07:12.000 And there was nothing there.

00:07:14.000 But Jeff Session appointed a special prosecutor right off the bat, and we have to live with that.

00:07:18.000 You think Merrick Garland appointed a special prosecutor looking to Joe Biden's five million?

00:07:23.000 Never.

00:07:24.000 We have two tiers of justice in this country.

00:07:27.000 I thought it was interesting that they released this on a Thursday at 7.40pm, right before we go live.

00:07:34.000 Like, I'm not saying we're the center of the universe, but do they want to make a public spectacle?

00:07:39.000 Is this more about- Well, Trump announced it.

00:07:40.000 That's true.

00:07:41.000 That's true.

00:07:42.000 Did Trump want us to talk about it?

00:07:43.000 I was watching Tinkast and I thought, quite frankly, they should break it.

00:07:45.000 I would love that.

00:07:46.000 Let's see if we can get him on the phone.

00:07:48.000 That'd be amazing.

00:07:49.000 If they want to make a public spectacle, is the goal here to humiliate Donald Trump or is the goal to put him in jail?

00:07:56.000 Both.

00:07:57.000 I think context here is very important.

00:07:59.000 So Donald Trump will be the first former president who's ever been indicted on something.

00:08:03.000 This is the second time he's going to be indicted.

00:08:05.000 So first, in New York City, the Manhattan District Attorney was working with a grand jury to indict Trump for these so-called hush money payments to Stormy Daniel.

00:08:13.000 Now we have the Department of Justice looking into these classified documents.

00:08:17.000 The second indictment that's ever come up.

00:08:19.000 Also, there's, I think, potentially a third indictment that's going to come from Georgia surrounding efforts to potentially, with what he said, With looking for votes with that whole scandal.

00:08:32.000 There's also another civil suit against the Trump organization about lying to lenders and insurers about his assets.

00:08:38.000 But what's key here is that this is the first former president to be indicted.

00:08:41.000 And I know there's a myth that nobody's above the law, but guess what?

00:08:43.000 The president and former presidents actually are above the law.

00:08:47.000 There's a lot of things that people could have thought of to indict former presidents on.

00:08:51.000 We spoke about it earlier.

00:08:52.000 Barack Obama droned American citizens overseas.

00:08:55.000 Whether or not some people think that's justified, that's something that could potentially be indicted on.

00:08:59.000 People call George Bush, say that he started an illegal war in Iraq.

00:09:03.000 But no, the first indictment of a former president that we're seeing is initially for hush money payments and now this declassified document.

00:09:08.000 Eli, you're going to start making me support this.

00:09:11.000 I mean, if this opens the door for us to go after former presidents and prosecute them, man, I hope he gets off and he should, but let's do it.

00:09:17.000 What's it say?

00:09:18.000 If this is the first former president No, agreed.

00:09:21.000 I agree.

00:09:22.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

00:09:23.000 If they indicted Trump over the commando raids in Yemen that resulted in the death, allegedly, the death of an American girl, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's sister, that one is more conjecture than Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, but should be investigated.

00:09:35.000 If they indicted him for that, said an investigation found this to be the case, I'd be like, well, what do you want me to say?

00:09:41.000 You order these raids and you kill American citizens, you get charged.

00:09:44.000 They're not doing that.

00:09:45.000 They're not.

00:09:46.000 Because they won't do that because then everyone's gonna be like, ahem, Mr. Obama, right this way sir, into this vehicle.

00:09:54.000 You know what though?

00:09:55.000 They're so shameless that they would prosecute Trump for something like that and just not look into Obama or Biden.

00:10:01.000 I mean that's the whole point here, right? 1.00

00:10:02.000 These people are all criminals.

00:10:04.000 And then all the people on Twitter would be like, well actually it's justified because in this instance... 0.79

00:10:08.000 Yeah.

00:10:08.000 It's also dangerous, though, because when a Republican president will eventually get back into office, we will see attorney generals in different states say, hey, let's go indict a former Democrat.

00:10:18.000 Let's go investigate until we find something.

00:10:19.000 A good prosecutor could indict a rock.

00:10:21.000 So we don't know what the indictment is right now.

00:10:26.000 It's definitely a process crime. 0.79

00:10:28.000 Which is kind of a joke and years ago they got Martha Stewart on a process crime So when you bring enough of a staff in front of the grand jury and somebody forgets one little thing because they can't have the exact memory Oh, you're lying.

00:10:40.000 So it's very easy when you have the whole weight of the Justice Department behind you millions of dollars They can get you on anything.

00:10:47.000 This is a real joke.

00:10:48.000 They're not gonna get him that he's holding documents because he's ex-president then you'd have to go get Biden you'd have to go get Pence and You have to go get Obama, so it's just going to be a silly process crime, but they want to stop Trump from running, and they want to stop him from... Do you guys want to see when a Republican is eventually president again, that attorney generals from red states go after former Democrats?

00:11:09.000 Absolutely, and former Republicans!

00:11:13.000 Go after Bush, go after Obama, go after Biden, go after all of them.

00:11:16.000 That's not how it would be though, it would be hyper-partisan.

00:11:18.000 Depends on the Republican, but you're probably right.

00:11:20.000 Most Republicans wouldn't, but I think somebody like Trump would.

00:11:23.000 Maybe, yeah.

00:11:24.000 I think part of what makes this country great and has made it great is that we haven't fallen into petty squabble like that in 250 years.

00:11:30.000 We just don't do that because we have bigger issues.

00:11:33.000 Shorten your time span here, buddy.

00:11:36.000 Okay.

00:11:37.000 Eight years.

00:11:37.000 160.

00:11:37.000 I mean, it's been since the Civil War, you could say.

00:11:40.000 Right.

00:11:41.000 Well, I guess, as far as a petty squabble, that wasn't petty.

00:11:44.000 Yeah, that was a big deal.

00:11:45.000 We had to end slavery and, you know, it was a big problem.

00:11:48.000 But this is like, he said, she said, he's carrying a box of documents, he signed this paperwork, he ordered that kill, he ordered that kill.

00:11:56.000 Like, yo, it's the biggest military in the world, it's the most dangerous machine on earth, and someone's got to point the buttons, point the guns.

00:12:05.000 There's so many more bigger problems on earth that we should be focused on than arresting past political opponents. 0.98

00:12:13.000 It's so ridiculous, man. 0.91

00:12:14.000 It's a dangerous escalation of a tit for tat is what's going to happen. Well, this is what's really shocking 0.97

00:12:20.000 I shouldn't say shocking but something worth pointing out and it's that

00:12:23.000 There are two segments of the population and they're relatively large demographics

00:12:29.000 Okay These are people who are either in category a willfully 0.76

00:12:32.000 ignorant or in category b not willfully ignorant Who believe that this is the first time since nixon that an 0.96

00:12:40.000 american president has done something? 0.96

00:12:43.000 worthy of pursuing with an indictment or charges.

00:12:48.000 There are people who are looking at this and they're saying, oh my goodness, all of our presidents have behaved within the law and haven't committed war crimes, haven't betrayed the American people, haven't betrayed their oath of office, and then Donald Trump came along and there are good reasons to indict that man and the best of them is that he had declassified documents that he declassified himself.

00:13:10.000 People are willing to believe this.

00:13:13.000 Well, the remarkable thing is, the logic makes no sense, if Trump can't declassify anything at any time, then he's literally not the authority of this country to have conversations pertaining to war.

00:13:23.000 How can you be the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and then, this is the example I gave last time, it's like you meet with Vladimir Putin, and he's like, you know, I want you to move these missiles out of this territory.

00:13:33.000 What missiles?

00:13:33.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 Okay, we know the U.S.

00:13:35.000 has missiles here, you move them, otherwise it's war.

00:13:38.000 I'm sorry, I can't confirm or deny, I don't have the authority.

00:13:40.000 Biden probably does say what missiles, though, to be fair.

00:13:42.000 He's like, what are you talking about, man?

00:13:44.000 I don't know what you mean, what?

00:13:46.000 Do we have missiles?

00:13:47.000 He gets on the phone, he's like, are there missiles in Ukraine?

00:13:49.000 There are!

00:13:50.000 Oh, man.

00:13:50.000 You think the implication- And then he gets off the line, he's like, I don't know if there's missiles there.

00:13:53.000 I think that the implication is that Donald Trump didn't declassify the documents before

00:13:58.000 he took them.

00:13:59.000 There's no process for it.

00:14:00.000 OK.

00:14:01.000 The president has plenary declassification powers.

00:14:03.000 He can literally just be like, these are no longer classified.

00:14:06.000 So I had them on me, therefore they're not classified anymore.

00:14:09.000 He did say they were declassified, but they're like arguing there's some kind of formal process

00:14:14.000 by which the president does not need to get approval from someone else.

00:14:18.000 But they're not going after him on this.

00:14:20.000 Basically the report is that they're charging him with losing possession of classified documents

00:14:26.000 or something like that, or of sensitive national security documents.

00:14:30.000 So they're actually trying to avoid the question of whether or not he classified or declassified

00:14:34.000 by saying it's a totally different law.

00:14:36.000 Now losing control of secured documents is something Hillary Clinton did when she would 1.00

00:14:41.000 forward all that stuff to Jake Sullivan.

00:14:43.000 Like out of her 30,000 emails or whatever she had, I should have one that I could pull up right now that was legitimate national security risk.

00:14:51.000 But she was, as far as I understand, not supposed to be forwarding Secretary of State documents to this guy Jake Sullivan.

00:14:59.000 Well, Ian, I think there's a good argument to be made that every single one of the 30,000 emails that Hillary Clinton deleted was a potential national security risk if she were to be elected for one very simple reason.

00:15:09.000 She didn't want people to see those emails and there was a receiver, which means there were people who would have the leverage over the sitting President of the United States of being able to release these emails that she deleted when she was subpoenaed.

00:15:20.000 So...

00:15:21.000 That in and of itself means that someone else could end up pulling the strings, or someone else could end up being in a position where the president owes them this favor because they have blackmail.

00:15:30.000 You mean because someone else received documents from Hillary that means anyone could have them?

00:15:35.000 Well no, my point is, so Hillary Clinton has these 30,000 emails, and then she deletes all of them.

00:15:40.000 Because she clearly doesn't want an investigation to be looking into those emails. 0.99

00:15:44.000 She doesn't want the American people to see them.

00:15:46.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:15:47.000 She can only delete those emails on her end.

00:15:49.000 She can't go into the inbox of every person who received one of those emails and then delete it, which means there are people who had the emails that she didn't want the public to see, which means those people have dirt on her.

00:16:00.000 Have, you know, quote-unquote, information that could lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

00:16:03.000 And for as much as we joke about what happens to those people, and for as much as I've said, I think the real black pill is that no amount of information will lead to the arrest Yes, of Hillary Clinton.

00:16:11.000 The fact is, it is a massive liability for the President of the United States to have information out there that people can blackmail them with.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, I think they're sending it on a Blackberry.

00:16:18.000 CNN's reporting that it's seven counts in the indictment, according to sources.

00:16:23.000 They came out with, for the first one, like 31 counts, I think, of that first indictment.

00:16:27.000 And it was like, this is the same count for, it was like one problem, because the one problem was, you know, in 30 different emails, they were like, it's 30 different counts.

00:16:36.000 That's what they do.

00:16:37.000 Man, I don't even want to- it was more than 50,000 pages of private emails for Hillary, by the way.

00:16:43.000 I don't even want to prosecute Hillary. 0.98

00:16:44.000 I just want people to know about it.

00:16:45.000 Funny enough, we do need to prosecute Hillary. 1.00

00:16:48.000 We do.

00:16:49.000 I was kind of glad he didn't go through with it, and I was devastated when he said that on stage, because it really did set a precedent.

00:16:54.000 I said Trump's not the only president with classified document problems because Joe Biden's also under investigation right now for something similar handling the mishandling of classified documents so maybe we should speed up that investigation too.

00:17:08.000 Well now we're taking it a step further because a VP can't declassify and neither can a senator, right?

00:17:13.000 He's the president now but there's reason to believe that he stored these while he was VP or while he was a senator.

00:17:19.000 But I'm sorry, continue.

00:17:20.000 But going back to what Hillary, it was only James Comey, that brilliant FBI director we had at the time, sat in front of a major press conference and said, she did ten things wrong, but I'm not going to pursue her.

00:17:32.000 Could you imagine Merrick Garland or Jack Smith saying, well, Trump did ten things wrong, but we're not going to go after him.

00:17:38.000 Never.

00:17:39.000 Never.

00:17:40.000 Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have more news because it's a heck of a day in this country.

00:17:44.000 I just want to mention one thing.

00:17:45.000 No, yeah, it was, um, the documents were specifically discovered in a place that he was using before the start of the 2020 campaign, right?

00:17:52.000 So these documents Biden had, had to have been collected while he was either VP or in the Senate.

00:17:56.000 In either case, he could not declassify.

00:17:58.000 Or not in office at all.

00:17:59.000 I mean, if he got them in 2017, he wasn't even serving in any capacity at that point.

00:18:03.000 So Joe Biden is actually, at the same time as Trump is being indicted, Joe Biden is being implicated in a bribery scheme, which it's expanding, we've known about it.

00:18:13.000 Fox News reports, Joe Biden allegedly paid $5 million by Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme according to FBI document.

00:18:21.000 Biden's son Hunter was a board member of Burisma and also allegedly in on the scheme.

00:18:26.000 It's actually fairly simple.

00:18:27.000 They wanted the prosecutor fired.

00:18:30.000 The Post Millennial reports, MTG reveals FBI informant reported Biden was bribed to have the Ukrainian prosecutor fired who was investigating Burisma.

00:18:40.000 On Thursday, Rep.

00:18:41.000 MTG held an emergency event after reading the FBI's FD1023 form that alleges a bribery scheme involving Joe Biden during his days as vice president, revealing that payments were made to the Biden family by Burisma, the Ukrainian oil company which Hunter Biden sat on the board of.

00:18:56.000 Back in 2015-16, Burisma was looking to buy a US-based oil and gas company, and this came from being advised by Hunter Biden, advised by Hunter Biden and his partners.

00:19:06.000 Biden said Victor Shokin was corrupt.

00:19:09.000 This was around the same time of his meeting, which was when Joe Biden as vice president said that Prosecutor Shokin was corrupt.

00:19:15.000 So we basically know what happened.

00:19:17.000 Joe Biden goes to Ukraine, threatens the president.

00:19:20.000 He says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loan guarantees, which is illegal.

00:19:25.000 He doesn't have the authority to do that.

00:19:26.000 Those are congressionally approved loan guarantees.

00:19:29.000 They told him that, and he says, call the president, see what he says.

00:19:31.000 He says, well, SOB, guy gets fired, and then we got in someone good, which is a complete fabrication.

00:19:38.000 Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, was investigating Burisma.

00:19:41.000 I think there was at least a dozen or more active investigations.

00:19:44.000 And now we have, from this FBI document, what appears to be confirmation.

00:19:49.000 It's all true.

00:19:49.000 The quid pro quo in this situation.

00:19:52.000 I remember a president getting impeached for something like this.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, quid pro quo.

00:19:55.000 I remember hearing that little phrase constantly.

00:19:58.000 This is the pro to the quid pro.

00:20:01.000 They impeached Donald Trump for what Joe Biden did.

00:20:04.000 And now they're trying to indict Donald Trump for something Joe Biden also did.

00:20:07.000 Also did.

00:20:08.000 And all Trump did was say, can you look into this?

00:20:11.000 That's all.

00:20:11.000 And also, but even this, right?

00:20:13.000 I get the point you're making, but it's a false equivalency because With the stored documents, Biden had no power to declassify, and Trump did.

00:20:22.000 So when people say these are the same thing, it's like, well no, it's not!

00:20:25.000 Because what Biden did was worse!

00:20:28.000 And same here, right?

00:20:29.000 I don't know how to verify if they declassified it, because what if Obama's like, oh yeah, I declassified all that stuff Biden's got in his garage?

00:20:35.000 Yes.

00:20:35.000 He's the president.

00:20:37.000 Yeah, he wasn't the president at the time.

00:20:38.000 Obama.

00:20:39.000 But if we found Obama had documents, well, he was the president, right?

00:20:43.000 But if the VP has documents that Obama declassified... Oh, I get what you're saying.

00:20:47.000 I'm sorry.

00:20:48.000 I misunderstood.

00:20:49.000 Well, we would need Obama to come forward and say, Yes, and I gave those to him and said, keep them in your garage.

00:20:55.000 That's a good idea.

00:20:56.000 And leave some at your weird little office in Chinatown. 1.00

00:20:58.000 I'll do that.

00:20:59.000 Good job, Joe.

00:21:00.000 Maybe that happened.

00:21:01.000 Maybe, but we have no reason to believe it.

00:21:03.000 Man, I want to know more about this FBI release.

00:21:06.000 If you took, we're all into politics, we watch this every day, but if you took an average group of people that didn't watch politics and you lined them up and you said, the crime, Trump had documents, Biden 5 million, so and so.

00:21:20.000 I guarantee 90% of us that what Biden did is by far the worst.

00:21:24.000 And Tim, if you Google right now, I bet nobody has this covered in the media.

00:21:29.000 Except for Fox News.

00:21:29.000 Yeah, Mike Cernovich pointed out they timed the indictment with the... Day of release.

00:21:35.000 Yeah, the Burisma information.

00:21:37.000 However, If that's true, Trump's the one who posted about it.

00:21:40.000 To be fair, though, CNN did report it as well.

00:21:42.000 So maybe Trump came out and said this because it was getting picked up.

00:21:45.000 I think they were planning on releasing it next week, is what I saw, the indictment announcement.

00:21:49.000 But maybe because this was dropping today, they were like, let's just get it out early.

00:21:52.000 Yeah, CNN's reporting on the issue came 40 minutes after Trump's truth post.

00:21:58.000 So does it cite his truth post?

00:22:00.000 It does.

00:22:01.000 Yeah.

00:22:02.000 Sounds like Trump wrote the story.

00:22:03.000 Get ahead of it, DT.

00:22:05.000 It may be that Trump is the one who Basically, look, the headline for this episode of TimCast IRL before the Donald Trump indictment came down was Joe Biden Burisma Scandal Report Confirms Bribery Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

00:22:05.000 Right.

00:22:28.000 I gotta know more about this FBI document.

00:22:31.000 I mean, I don't know what to trust, who to trust.

00:22:33.000 I know there's a lot of evidence that Biden went over there and did some dirty work to get that prosecutor fired.

00:22:38.000 I mean, he admitted it in public.

00:22:40.000 And laughed about it.

00:22:41.000 Yeah.

00:22:43.000 So last time Trump was indicted, he raised $34 million and got a little boost in the poll as a result of this.

00:22:50.000 What do you guys think the electoral consequences of this will be moving forward?

00:22:53.000 This is a federal indictment.

00:22:54.000 This is big.

00:22:55.000 Do you think it'll give him a bump and more like a rally around our guy effect as a result of this?

00:23:00.000 I have to wonder if they really just want Trump to be the nominee.

00:23:03.000 They definitely want Trump to be the nominee.

00:23:04.000 They don't want DeSantis.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, but do you think that's what the move here was to make it seem like we're going after Trump and then make, you know, all the Republicans defend him?

00:23:12.000 Because now, what is DeSantis going to say about this?

00:23:14.000 Well, I don't know what the move was or whether it was intentional, but what I will say is, even though earlier I alluded to the fact that there are some Americans out there and a disturbingly large number of Americans who think that You know, this is the first time in decades a president has done anything illegal or worth civil authorities looking into.

00:23:31.000 The reality is most people do know that's not true.

00:23:35.000 And so when one president is indicted by a system that they know is corrupt and that they know allows for elites to commit crimes and is allowed for other presidents to commit crimes, they go, Interesting.

00:23:46.000 Why him, right?

00:23:48.000 He must be doing something that's different from all the things these political leaders have been doing to screw us for a very long time.

00:23:53.000 I think people on both sides of the aisle and moderates can see that.

00:23:56.000 If you're a democratic strategist, you want Trump in the general, and then I don't, I mean, indictments are political, all of this is obviously political, but then indicting him to try to make him more More popular in the primary would be a decent democratic strategy.

00:24:14.000 Oh, you make him more popular in the primary than in the general?

00:24:16.000 You make it so he can't, that he has to step out?

00:24:18.000 You want him in the general because theoretically DeSantis does better against Biden, but also I'm thinking if you're indicted, it doesn't play as well to a general audience as it would to a primary audience.

00:24:29.000 The vibe I get is that they want to make it so that Donald Trump cannot run for president again, which is going to inflame so many millions and tens of millions of people.

00:24:38.000 Why on hell's green earth would they do that?

00:24:41.000 I mean, maybe they really believe that Donald Trump would win.

00:24:45.000 This one person has the authority to pardon him.

00:24:48.000 Joe Biden, right?

00:24:49.000 What if he does?

00:24:50.000 Just be a nice guy, of course, man.

00:24:52.000 Superman.

00:24:53.000 I want to see some Biden-Superman memes if that happens.

00:24:55.000 That'd be an awesome coming-together moment if Trump was indicted for something and then Biden just told him, hey, it's okay.

00:25:03.000 Because if you're indicted for seven crimes by the feds, this is hard.

00:25:07.000 This is really hard to get out of.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, because then Biden would be like, make America great again to Trump, and Trump's like, I will.

00:25:14.000 Let's put this partisanship behind us.

00:25:16.000 We don't need to indict Trump.

00:25:17.000 Let's just drop it now.

00:25:19.000 Let's move forward.

00:25:20.000 But the thing is, it's almost not partisanship because there are a lot of Republicans they would never do this to.

00:25:25.000 We have, but look what's happening right now.

00:25:27.000 We have news.

00:25:28.000 Joe Biden was allegedly paid $5 million as part of the Burisma bribery scheme, and we just keep going back to Trump.

00:25:34.000 Yeah.

00:25:36.000 I don't know if that was the right play by Trump to be posting about this, because we would be just going heavy into Hunter Biden, the crack, the diary, all of this stuff.

00:25:45.000 Instead, it's like, yes, Joe Biden did this thing.

00:25:47.000 And anyway, here's Trump.

00:25:48.000 He fundraised so much after the first indictment.

00:25:51.000 I'm sure he's going to raise a ton of money after the second indictment, too.

00:25:55.000 But so this is an interesting point you're making because I've said in the past I think it's very possible that the left-wing establishment is trying to engage in another attempt at the Pied Piper strategy.

00:26:05.000 They want him to try to run for president or not just try but for him to get the nomination because they think he'll lose a general election.

00:26:12.000 But I've heard other people who believe that Trump would lose the general election kind of make the opposite argument to the one you're making.

00:26:18.000 So I was having a conversation with Will Chamberlain a couple of months ago on my podcast, and this was right when the documents being found at Joe Biden's house Was a news story and I asked him, why do you think that they would be leaking this now?

00:26:31.000 And his response was basically, I think the reason they're leaking this now is because they don't want to prosecute Trump because that might prevent him from running and they want him to run.

00:26:40.000 So I think prosecuting him or not prosecuting him could be taken as the Democrats wanting him to be able to run in 2024.

00:26:49.000 So it's tough to say.

00:26:51.000 He can run either way, but I think what they want to make sure is he is hindered from campaigning.

00:26:56.000 But they gotta know.

00:26:57.000 I mean, maybe they really don't know how good this is for his publicity.

00:27:02.000 What if Joe Biden gets indicted because of this story?

00:27:06.000 You know, the other story that we were talking about?

00:27:08.000 Oh yeah, the 5 million that he received, allegedly.

00:27:10.000 Everyone who runs just gets indicted, and then their VPs get indicted to a smaller jail.

00:27:14.000 No one knows what to do to win, so it's just different law enforcement agencies indicting each other.

00:27:18.000 That's your campaign now. Local sheriff is just like, oh, Joe Biden once was speeding in my neighborhood.

00:27:24.000 It's like, well, I guess he's got to come to court and can't campaign anymore. Where's the, uh,

00:27:28.000 we haven't really read into this story much. Do you know what this alleged payment was for exactly?

00:27:33.000 To get the prosecutor fired. Yeah, we did. It was just straight, I guess we did. It was

00:27:36.000 just straightforward. Like, hey, here, get this guy fired.

00:27:38.000 But Burisma was being investigated by the prosecutor.

00:27:41.000 There were a dozen or more investigations.

00:27:43.000 And then Joe Biden swoops in and gets the guy fired, and then the investigation stops.

00:27:46.000 Did they send it to, like, a family trust or something?

00:27:49.000 I don't know.

00:27:49.000 A Biden family trust?

00:27:50.000 I mean, we saw those emails.

00:27:51.000 We know about 10% for the big guy.

00:27:53.000 We know that this is what they've been doing.

00:27:55.000 Let me just add these layers and bring these stories together for you.

00:27:59.000 Joe Biden is the president right now.

00:28:02.000 It is his Department of Justice going after Donald Trump.

00:28:06.000 Donald Trump said, can you please look into this?

00:28:09.000 So they impeach him.

00:28:10.000 Then Joe Biden becomes president and now is going after Trump, presumably because he's the only one who knows.

00:28:17.000 Not literally, but he's going after the guy that tried to take him down.

00:28:20.000 And if Donald Trump gets elected, you know Joe Biden's in serious trouble and his family is too.

00:28:26.000 So Biden's probably like, screw it, burn it all down.

00:28:30.000 But I mean, this is what really tricks me out, man, is that these people would put selfish needs and wants and desires ahead of the good of humanity.

00:28:39.000 That's why they're in politics.

00:28:40.000 So Donald Trump posted a video, a video response.

00:28:44.000 We're going to play this video for you right now.

00:28:46.000 We have this from Truth Social.

00:28:47.000 He says, I'm an innocent man. 0.95

00:28:49.000 The Biden administration is totally corrupt.

00:28:50.000 This is election interference and a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. 0.75

00:28:55.000 Make America great again.

00:28:56.000 Let's play the video.

00:28:58.000 Turn it up!

00:29:00.000 Turn it up!

00:29:03.000 Get some lighting on your face, Don!

00:29:08.000 Very sadly, we're a nation in decline, and yet they go after a popular president, a president that got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country, by far.

00:29:22.000 And did much better the second time in the election than the first.

00:29:27.000 And they go after him on a boxers hoax, just like the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, and all of the others. 0.59

00:29:34.000 This has been going on for seven years.

00:29:36.000 They can't stop because it's election interference at the highest level.

00:29:40.000 There's never been anything like what's happened.

00:29:43.000 I'm an innocent man.

00:29:44.000 I'm an innocent person.

00:29:46.000 They had the Mueller hoax, the Mueller report.

00:29:49.000 And that came out, no collusion, after two and a half years.

00:29:52.000 That was set up by Hillary Clinton and Democrats.

00:29:56.000 But this is what they do.

00:29:57.000 This is what they do so well.

00:30:00.000 If they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity, it would be a lot better for our country.

00:30:05.000 They could do a lot better.

00:30:06.000 They could do a lot of great things.

00:30:08.000 But when you look at what's happened to our country in the last three years, we were energy independent, we had a strong military that wasn't woke, we were doing so well, we were respected all over the world, got the biggest tax cuts in history, biggest regulation cuts in history.

00:30:25.000 And what do you do?

00:30:26.000 You have a president where an election was taken, got more votes than any sitting president in history by far, never anything even close.

00:30:38.000 And they come after me because now we're leading in the polls again by a lot against Biden and against the Republicans by a lot.

00:30:46.000 But we're leading against Biden by a lot, a tremendous amount.

00:30:50.000 And we went up to a level that they figure the way they're going to stop us is by using what's called warfare.

00:30:57.000 And that's what it is.

00:30:57.000 This is warfare for the law.

00:31:00.000 And we can't let it happen.

00:31:01.000 We can't let it happen.

00:31:03.000 Our country is going to hell.

00:31:06.000 And they come after Donald Trump, weaponizing the Justice Department, weaponizing the FBI.

00:31:15.000 We can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds.

00:31:20.000 We have such big problems, and this shouldn't be one of them.

00:31:23.000 It's a hoax.

00:31:25.000 The whole thing is a hoax, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like the fake dossier was a hoax.

00:31:31.000 You saw the Durham report.

00:31:33.000 You saw the Mueller report.

00:31:36.000 It was all a big hoax.

00:31:37.000 You had two impeachments and they lost and we won.

00:31:42.000 And we had tremendous support.

00:31:44.000 But that was a hoax and a scam.

00:31:46.000 And now they're doing it again.

00:31:47.000 It's just a continuation.

00:31:49.000 Seven years, even after I'm out.

00:31:52.000 But it's called election interference.

00:31:54.000 They're trying to destroy your reputation so they can win an election.

00:31:59.000 That's just as bad as doing any of the other things that have been done over the last number of years, and especially during the 2020 election.

00:32:08.000 So I just want to tell you, I'm an innocent man.

00:32:10.000 I did nothing wrong.

00:32:12.000 And we will fight this out just like we've been fighting for seven years.

00:32:15.000 It would be wonderful if we could devote our full time to making America great again.

00:32:21.000 And that's exactly what we did.

00:32:22.000 But now, again, our country is in decline.

00:32:27.000 We're a failing nation.

00:32:29.000 And this is what they do.

00:32:31.000 I'm an innocent man.

00:32:32.000 We will prove that again.

00:32:34.000 Seven years of proving it.

00:32:36.000 And here we go again.

00:32:38.000 Very unfair.

00:32:39.000 But that's the way it is.

00:32:40.000 I just want to thank everybody.

00:32:43.000 We are doing something very special for our country.

00:32:46.000 We're putting America first.

00:32:47.000 I always put America first.

00:32:50.000 And that's why we were in a position.

00:32:53.000 Unfortunately, that position is no longer valid because they've done such a poor job, but we're in a position where we're going to make America great again.

00:33:02.000 I'm innocent, and we will prove that very, very soundly and hopefully very quickly.

00:33:07.000 Thank you very much.

00:33:08.000 I think he said, I'm innocent, like, eight times.

00:33:10.000 Yeah, that would make, if someone cut that up and made an auto-tune of a song called I'm an Innocent Man, that would be so badass.

00:33:16.000 That actually would be.

00:33:17.000 And he is innocent.

00:33:18.000 Until proven guilty, he's innocent.

00:33:20.000 I think he's just generally innocent, because I don't believe anything they're levying against him, so... Yeah, exactly.

00:33:25.000 Mr. Weiss, you're a crisis guy, right?

00:33:28.000 So, what's going on here?

00:33:29.000 A lot of times I have this scenario with clients, and their lawyers always say, don't speak, don't speak, and I say, don't listen to lawyers, they're just gonna hold you back.

00:33:38.000 It's very important that President Trump spoke right now.

00:33:42.000 50, 60 million people want to hear from him.

00:33:43.000 He showed strength.

00:33:45.000 He showed confidence.

00:33:46.000 He showed that he's still in high spirits because most, probably most of his attorneys are saying, don't say anything.

00:33:52.000 Don't go out there.

00:33:53.000 Keep it quiet.

00:33:54.000 You might slip.

00:33:55.000 You might say something to Trump.

00:33:56.000 You never know.

00:33:57.000 But it's very important, I think, tonight that he spoke out and I would have given the advice, speak out.

00:34:02.000 What if like he posted a video and he was crying?

00:34:05.000 He's just a human.

00:34:10.000 What kind of human goes through this?

00:34:12.000 It's unbelievable.

00:34:13.000 Seven years of torture.

00:34:15.000 And he's still trying to run.

00:34:17.000 But Trump's the kind of guy, I imagine, when the camera goes off, he starts, like, punching the wall.

00:34:22.000 You think so?

00:34:23.000 Yeah, I don't think he's the kind of person who's like, I can't believe they're doing this to me, like, why won't they stop?

00:34:28.000 He's the kind of guy who's like, I will destroy them!

00:34:32.000 Build me something great so I can destroy it! 0.99

00:34:34.000 Build me another one!

00:34:35.000 I bet he's, like, raising his voice.

00:34:37.000 I bet he's going to his lawyer's back, like, WHY ISN'T ANYTHING GETTING DONE?!

00:34:40.000 HOW IS THIS STILL HAPPENING?!

00:34:41.000 I WANT LAWYERS!

00:34:43.000 Yeah, he looked like he was freaking out in that video.

00:34:45.000 I was there the night he got indicted from the, uh, the city district attorney.

00:34:49.000 And he was, he flew right in and did a big speech at Mar-a-Lago.

00:34:53.000 We went upstairs afterwards, and he's DJing the whole night, two in the morning.

00:34:56.000 What?

00:34:57.000 Like on the record?

00:34:58.000 He's DJing?

00:35:00.000 He takes his iPad, he takes the iPad when he's there, and he becomes the DJ.

00:35:05.000 That's awesome!

00:35:05.000 He plays the tunes.

00:35:06.000 Are you serious?

00:35:06.000 He's just picking music?

00:35:07.000 That night, yeah.

00:35:08.000 He goes from Sinatra to Elton John.

00:35:12.000 I'd rather imagine it with like the one headphone.

00:35:15.000 You ruined that by giving more details.

00:35:17.000 It's a cartoon music.

00:35:19.000 He just got indicted.

00:35:21.000 And he's playing tunes at two in the morning and having a great time.

00:35:24.000 I said, unbelievable.

00:35:25.000 I think he's a DJ.

00:35:26.000 He's like getting indicted.

00:35:27.000 This is the coolest president we've ever had.

00:35:29.000 It's not even a question.

00:35:32.000 He's probably got a lot of street cred.

00:35:33.000 Trouble with the law?

00:35:34.000 Yeah, we did a cartoon about that a little while ago and now it's happening again.

00:35:37.000 It's like, I don't know why I bother to keep making these every week when the news is just reruns now.

00:35:41.000 One of my favorite lines from him that he says constantly, and he said it a couple times in this speech, is that he received the most votes of any sitting president, specifically, because Biden wasn't a sitting president, obviously, at the time, but he keeps saying that.

00:35:55.000 The most votes of any sitting president.

00:35:57.000 He's not sitting right now, quite frankly.

00:35:59.000 He's laying down.

00:36:00.000 You know he's not awake.

00:36:01.000 It's just like a funny cop-out when he's not the president right now and he just keeps saying that.

00:36:05.000 It's true, though. 0.82

00:36:05.000 It is true. 0.82

00:36:06.000 From a sitting president, yeah, but Biden's still got more votes.

00:36:09.000 But his point is no other, uh... What is it?

00:36:12.000 No other sitting president received more votes than lost?

00:36:16.000 Sure, but we're a growing population with more voter participation every four years, so it's like a...

00:36:23.000 We've never had more money in our economy than we do right now.

00:36:27.000 COVID played a major role in why this didn't look the same way as it did, because they basically just locked everybody in boxes and then tortured them for a year.

00:36:35.000 And then mail-in ballots, that played a huge role, which DeSantis said he wants to start doing aggressively, and we'll see if Trump follows up with a similar strategy.

00:36:43.000 I think he will.

00:36:43.000 Don Jr.

00:36:44.000 was talking about it.

00:36:45.000 I mean, he doesn't speak for Trump.

00:36:49.000 The fabric of this nation has been ripped to shreds.

00:36:52.000 Oh yeah.

00:36:52.000 And now it's just, you know, before it was things were heating up, now at the highest level, like the fact that the Biden DOJ is just like, well I can't beat him so let's lock him in jail!

00:37:03.000 But like, ripping the fabric apart...

00:37:06.000 If the fabric is being used to suffocate your friend and you rip the fabric to shreds and save your friend's life, then maybe that fabric needed to be ripped apart anyway.

00:37:13.000 So, like, are we better off or worse off since Trump became president and not Hillary?

00:37:17.000 Well, that doesn't quite make sense, right?

00:37:19.000 The fabric of this country is what stops people from fighting each other in the streets.

00:37:23.000 The fabric of this country is the basic rule set of, look, we're not going to indict our political rival.

00:37:29.000 We're going to let people vote about these things.

00:37:31.000 We're not going to make up BS charges. 0.79

00:37:33.000 Right now, in the public sphere, we know for a fact Joe Biden is corrupt.

00:37:37.000 Politico wrote about this years ago.

00:37:40.000 Biden, Inc.

00:37:41.000 We know that his family's fortunes have tracked his career in federal government.

00:37:46.000 We now have another story basically confirming he was getting bribes to fire the prosecutor.

00:37:51.000 Joe Biden publicly admitted he went to the president of Ukraine and said, fire the prosecutor or I will illegally withhold loan guarantees.

00:37:58.000 He just came out and said it, and they don't do anything about it.

00:38:02.000 If the people of this country know for a fact that the government has been weaponized against one half of the population, like, we are dangerously close to whatever you want to call it.

00:38:14.000 I think the metaphor you were looking for, Ian, was like, a fracture doesn't heal fully, but you need to break the arm completely for it to heal fully.

00:38:22.000 Not that I agree with that's what should happen, but if your bone is fractured, then it doesn't heal completely, but if it breaks completely, then it does properly heal.

00:38:31.000 That's a bad metaphor for what I think should happen in the nation, but I think that's a cleaner metaphor for what you were looking for.

00:38:36.000 You know, Biden is so fascinating to me.

00:38:39.000 He's this, he's like, for as much as people say this about Trump, Biden is this character study in the hubris of man because he's so late in his life and he's putting such little emphasis on his soul and so much emphasis on money and being corrupt in order to enrich himself and his family.

00:38:58.000 About Joe Biden?

00:39:00.000 Well, firstly, Kennedy, if we're including fake Catholics, Kennedy was a fake Catholic president before Joe Biden.

00:39:07.000 No, I think Kennedy was actually practicing, but we know behind the scenes.

00:39:09.000 He was doing Maryland Monroe, wasn't he?

00:39:11.000 Yeah, we know there was some stuff going on there that would throw him outside of like, you know, he was not practicing.

00:39:17.000 Isn't Biden Irish too?

00:39:18.000 My point is, yeah, no, I know you can't trust those guys.

00:39:21.000 That's my whole argument.

00:39:22.000 That's the whole point.

00:39:22.000 But Joe Biden, I mean, Catholics and politics are— No Irish flag behind you in that.

00:39:27.000 I know.

00:39:27.000 What are you talking about?

00:39:28.000 When was there ever one?

00:39:28.000 You know, the Catholics don't need to get into politics because the Vatican has so much power— I don't know about that, dude.

00:39:34.000 —they don't even bother.

00:39:35.000 They don't step down into the politics realm.

00:39:37.000 They already— Is that how you feel in America?

00:39:39.000 —it's kind of a joke.

00:39:39.000 No, but I do think religious institutions may have more influence and power over Earth than sitting governments.

00:39:44.000 I mean, but, well, that's the thing, you know, I'm Catholic, I love my church, but, you know, there are obviously people in the Catholic Church I've been very critical of, and people in the hierarchy, and I think it was Chesterton who said this, but one of the reasons I believe it's the true church is because I don't know how an organization can spend so much time being corrupt and still exist.

00:40:00.000 It's been like 2,000 years with these horrible priests and bishops, and we're still here.

00:40:04.000 Who's going to have faith in the justice system anymore after this?

00:40:07.000 But after this, it's such a joke.

00:40:07.000 Oh, nobody.

00:40:10.000 They've got to do something good.

00:40:11.000 For me to regain faith in them, they'd have to do something really... We have videos of the hunt of Biden that you can't show even an 18-year-old.

00:40:19.000 Agreed, but you know what?

00:40:20.000 You know what I'll say is that at this point we've become so tribal that credibility is irrelevant.

00:40:26.000 People are going to side with their team, even if they know they're lying.

00:40:29.000 Let's talk dirty politics.

00:40:30.000 We have this story from TimCast.com.

00:40:32.000 DeSantis' campaign uses AI-generated deepfake images of Trump embracing Fauci in a new ad.

00:40:38.000 Is he kissing him?

00:40:40.000 Yes, he is.

00:40:41.000 Trump hugging and kissing.

00:40:42.000 And I also want to point out, look at Trump's, see his hand right here?

00:40:46.000 Look at Trump's seven-foot-long arm.

00:40:49.000 He's embracing Fauci, and his arm goes all the way around Fauci.

00:40:53.000 Like, just think about how long his left arm is, and how he's holding Fauci, and then how his other arm wraps all the way around.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, it's clearly a deepfake.

00:41:00.000 And so this is the DeSantis War Room.

00:41:03.000 They ran an ad that says, Donald Trump became a household name by firing countless people on television.

00:41:08.000 But when it came to Fauci, in the video, they run this image.

00:41:11.000 It says, Real Life Trump, and the top left, the bottom middle, and bottom right are AI-generated images of Trump hugging and kissing Dr. Fauci.

00:41:20.000 Wow now look People like this people thought this was real this this video.

00:41:25.000 I believe it's actually from it's from What is it from June 5th?

00:41:29.000 I think the original post is actually a few a few days before but let's just say June 5th That's the date listed on Twitter Nobody noticed anything until today.

00:41:38.000 I saw people posting saying, hey, wait a minute.

00:41:40.000 The DeSantis campaign generated fake images to smear Donald Trump as favoring Dr. Fauci.

00:41:45.000 You don't need to smear Trump.

00:41:47.000 He wouldn't fire the guy.

00:41:48.000 He says he couldn't.

00:41:49.000 Schedule F. That I understand.

00:41:50.000 But he very much let Dr. Fauci do his thing during COVID.

00:41:54.000 The fact that they went this far, they opened the gates, Yo, this is, look, we're talking about indictments, we're talking about the DOJ.

00:42:02.000 Welcome to modern politics.

00:42:04.000 They're going to start generating fake AI images of you, doing something to smear you, and this is a serious ad meant to make people believe Donald Trump actually was good friends with Fauci.

00:42:15.000 Oh my gosh, they should have a disclaimer that that's fake, because a cartoon you would know.

00:42:19.000 No, they're defending it, they're doubling down.

00:42:21.000 All the dissented supporters are doubling down hardcore saying, we are allowed to do this because Donald Trump once posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros.

00:42:29.000 Which everyone thought was real, of course, at the time, and people didn't want to vote for DeSantis because of the animal cruelty.

00:42:38.000 Here's a picture of Ron on a rhinoceros, and the response I got was, hey Tim, what dis?

00:42:44.000 Because I said, the intentional act of making a fake image, putting it in a collage to trick people into thinking that Trump liked Dr. Fauci, Is one million times different from Trump insulting Ron DeSantis.

00:43:00.000 Also, yeah, no, and there's context to those photographs too, which you mentioned it's in a collage of other photographs, but they're talking about Trump being too soft on Fauci.

00:43:10.000 And it says real life Trump on it!

00:43:12.000 And Trump was not making any specific claim about, firstly, it's poorly photoshopped, it's obviously a joke, but secondly, Trump was not making like a claim about DeSantis riding rhinos.

00:43:23.000 So, everybody responded to me saying, why aren't you disavowing Donald Trump for his use of deepfakes?

00:43:30.000 And I said, what use?

00:43:31.000 And they post that, and I'm like, that's a photoshop of Ron on a rhinoceros, are you joking?

00:43:36.000 And you know it's fake, he has a suit on.

00:43:39.000 They're like, these deepfakes are getting two of Putin riding a bear.

00:43:42.000 And they said, Donald Trump posted a fake AI Twitter space, and I said, you mean with the devil and Hitler?

00:43:50.000 So here's what I tweeted.

00:43:51.000 I said, you know what?

00:43:52.000 I say, I hereby disavow Trump for posting a video of the devil and Hitler in a chat room making fun of DeSantis. 0.99

00:43:52.000 They're all mad. 0.99

00:43:59.000 Many DeSantis supporters thought it was real, and it was wrong for Trump to post it.

00:44:03.000 Then, when this guy tweets at me, what about this picture?

00:44:06.000 And it's Trump riding, or it's Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros, I said, I once again, I hereby once again disavow Donald J. Trump.

00:44:14.000 He posted a picture of Ron DeSantis riding a rhinoceros, and many DeSantis supporters thought it was real.

00:44:19.000 It was wrong of Trump to mislead these people in this way, and Trump must apologize for confusing dissenter supporters with this image, and the dude deleted it. 0.98

00:44:28.000 The argument that you can make fake news, fake images to trick people, is in no way the same as Trump being a dick. 0.95

00:44:38.000 And then people are like, how come, what about Alex Brusiewicz? 0.99

00:44:41.000 He posts memes?

00:44:42.000 Yes.

00:44:44.000 There was an image of George Soros in the background somewhere, and then he posted something, this was another thing they're criticizing him for, where he said, apparently this wasn't George Soros, but I have to wonder.

00:44:53.000 And it's like, okay.

00:44:54.000 And then other people, random people online who are not Donald Trump, There is a big difference between Ron DeSantis' official campaign, his staff, producing fake images to trick people into thinking Trump did a thing he did not do, and Trump posting a picture of Ron on a rhinoceros.

00:45:17.000 But I'm sorry, I guess if they really believe that happened, they were like, Ron never rode a rhinoceros!

00:45:22.000 Trump's lying!

00:45:23.000 But here's the thing, I'm a highly trained skeptic, so when I saw that picture of Ron on a rhinoceros, I didn't think it was real, but I thought, man, this deepfake technology is getting way too convincing.

00:45:30.000 That's right!

00:45:31.000 This is clearly Ron DeSantis on a rhino.

00:45:33.000 I'm sorry, like, dude, you can by all means criticize any Trump supporter for posting fake information 100%.

00:45:41.000 But the idea that because some people associated with Trump posted questionable things they found on the internet justifies the intentional act of posting deepfakes to lie about Donald Trump.

00:45:54.000 This is, it's laughably absurd.

00:45:55.000 Sorry, have a nice day.

00:45:57.000 I was saying before that I was like, you know, I really like DeSantis.

00:46:01.000 He does great in Florida.

00:46:02.000 He's given us everything he's wanted.

00:46:03.000 His charisma is not there.

00:46:05.000 I'm leaning towards Trump simply because Trump's likely to fire all these people.

00:46:08.000 Now, there is absolutely no way I will support Ron DeSantis unless he comes out explicitly disavowing the use of deepfakes to manipulate people. 0.93

00:46:17.000 I think they're probably these strategists he has, all this money, how do we go, let's keep on this Fauci crusade, that he was so close to Fauci he wouldn't fire him, and maybe the pictures didn't have that hug, so let's just shove in the hug, right?

00:46:29.000 Let's just add these two extra pictures, it will really push the envelope and show how close they were.

00:46:35.000 And people won't pick up on it, that's fake, but, you know?

00:46:38.000 Not just a hug, a kiss!

00:46:40.000 You know, they could have just settled for a hug.

00:46:42.000 They got one where he's smooching right on the nose there. 0.99

00:46:44.000 And they wrote real-life Trump.

00:46:47.000 They show a bunch of real clips of Trump saying why he wouldn't fire Fauci.

00:46:50.000 Legitimate criticism.

00:46:52.000 And then it says real-life Trump, and it shows him hugging and kissing.

00:46:55.000 Look at this.

00:46:55.000 To the left, the White House... The room doesn't even make sense.

00:47:00.000 But the White House emblem, it says, Mehehap. 0.53

00:47:03.000 Whems.

00:47:04.000 Because AI can't make language.

00:47:07.000 They could have at least photoshopped it, I suppose.

00:47:08.000 So, what was their argument?

00:47:09.000 That real life was only written on the pictures that were actually literally real, so they weren't trying to... No, no, no!

00:47:14.000 That's what they're saying.

00:47:16.000 The one that they put real life on... No, none of this was on it.

00:47:17.000 I don't believe that.

00:47:18.000 Yes, it is.

00:47:19.000 Oh, those were in the ad?

00:47:20.000 Yes.

00:47:20.000 I'll play the ad for you.

00:47:21.000 I'll pull it up.

00:47:23.000 These are in the ad.

00:47:24.000 Like... You're fired.

00:47:26.000 Let's play the ad.

00:47:27.000 Here you go.

00:47:28.000 You're fired.

00:47:28.000 You're all fired.

00:47:29.000 All four are fired.

00:47:30.000 You're fired.

00:47:32.000 The day I walk in, I hear I'm gonna fire him.

00:47:34.000 I'm not firing him.

00:47:35.000 I think he's a wonderful guy.

00:47:36.000 Should you have fired Fauci?

00:47:38.000 So, a lot of people ask me that question.

00:47:40.000 And I did it right.

00:47:41.000 Because if you do fire him, you're gonna have a firestorm on the left again.

00:47:45.000 Why did you feel unable to fire Fauci?

00:47:48.000 Personally, you're not allowed to.

00:47:49.000 Every time he goes on television, there's always a bomb.

00:47:52.000 But there's a bigger bomb if you fire him.

00:47:55.000 Frankly, you can't win that one.

00:47:57.000 If I would have done it, I would have taken heat.

00:48:01.000 Alright, I'm gonna say, when it said real-life Trump on a picture of him hugging Fauci that isn't real, Trump has grounds to sue.

00:48:08.000 Yes.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, well, absolutely.

00:48:10.000 Look at this, it's in the video!

00:48:12.000 And there's a, we've got Birdwatch, or whatever it's called, Community Notes.

00:48:16.000 At 25 seconds in this video, a collage of photos of President Trump hugging Anthony Fauci appear.

00:48:20.000 These pictures are not real, they're AI-generated images, and...

00:48:25.000 It says real life Trump, whilst quoting Trump.

00:48:28.000 Fake, fake, fake.

00:48:29.000 The DeSantis campaign should get ahead of this and be like, these were deep fakes, before they get sued into oblivion.

00:48:36.000 Oh, dude, there's no debate anymore.

00:48:38.000 You're right.

00:48:39.000 There's no debate.

00:48:40.000 Any now debate Rhonda Sanders tries to have with Trump, Trump wins instantly. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Rhonda's gonna be like, Donald Trump wouldn't fire Dr. Fauci, and Trump's gonna be like, fake news!

00:48:51.000 He made fake photos and ran those!

00:48:54.000 Here it is!

00:48:55.000 And said they were real.

00:48:57.000 That undermines, and I've been very clear about where I stand on Trump vs. DeSantis, but I will say that undermines one of the good points that DeSantis actually does have about Trump.

00:49:05.000 That undermines one of the good arguments against Trump, even though I support him, to say, yeah, he didn't fire Fauci, that was a serious flaw, he should have, is something that is credible and it's powerful.

00:49:19.000 And to completely undermine that by having a hand-generated picture of him kissing Fauci on the nose while he hugs him, What would your crisis response team be to something like this?

00:49:30.000 Double down, or what?

00:49:32.000 To DeSantis?

00:49:33.000 How should his response be?

00:49:34.000 He probably should disavow, or if he fired somebody that created this, then it would... He's gotta fire the top.

00:49:40.000 Blame somebody else.

00:49:41.000 Find a subordinate, say this was their idea, I didn't approve.

00:49:43.000 If you purposely put up fake photos in an ad, it's not just putting up a meme on Twitter.

00:49:47.000 It's different, right?

00:49:48.000 You had to go through a whole process.

00:49:50.000 Let's make the ad, let's make the scoop.

00:49:52.000 What do you put here?

00:49:53.000 Put the photo.

00:49:54.000 And somebody said, let's put two fake photos of Trump.

00:49:57.000 Three.

00:49:58.000 And DeSantis has to know about that.

00:50:00.000 They had to bring him the ad at the end.

00:50:01.000 Yeah, what I noticed didn't happen is DeSantis didn't go, I'm Ron DeSantis and I approve this message.

00:50:06.000 They used to have to do that or would do that in commercials. 0.98

00:50:08.000 It's possible, even if Ron... Could be his PAC.

00:50:11.000 Could be his PAC? 0.87

00:50:12.000 No, this is DeSantis' worm.

00:50:13.000 It was, according to multiple reports, Christina Pasha, who employed directly by DeSantis, made this account.

00:50:20.000 I don't know who made the video, but it's possible that DeSantis saw the video, and it's a 40-second video, and he looks at it and he's like, it's great, run it.

00:50:27.000 Not realizing they put deep fakes in it.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 But I think, if they try and pull a, we didn't know, and so we're gonna hire John Herbowitz, he was the one who did it, I will not be satisfied.

00:50:39.000 I'm like, I don't know who that is.

00:50:41.000 You can't come to me and say, Underling is at fault.

00:50:43.000 Not, sorry.

00:50:44.000 Look, man.

00:50:45.000 We knew this was coming, we've warned about it.

00:50:47.000 It's one thing, and it's bad enough, that they cut Trump out of context and lie about him.

00:50:52.000 It is also bad enough that there are people who support Trump that make fake things and then they get shared by people in the Trump camp, in like the Trump circle and things like that.

00:51:03.000 But to intentionally run an ad with fake images to smear your political opponent is crossing the line directly, and it opens the door to a very dark future.

00:51:12.000 That's why it's like, hey, we knew someone was gonna do it, Ron DeSantis said he was going to lead out.

00:51:16.000 But man, it says that this is real.

00:51:18.000 It says real-life Trump with a picture of him that is not real-life Trump.

00:51:22.000 So, good God, what did you guys do?

00:51:24.000 This really opens up the floodgates for RFK to do ads against Biden, right?

00:51:29.000 We were talking about this before the show, and I was just saying, I can't imagine.

00:51:34.000 Trump's going to run ads.

00:51:35.000 Trump is going to make an ad and it's going to be like some woman. 1.00

00:51:39.000 Pax are going to do this.

00:51:40.000 You're going to hear a woman go, Ron DeSantis' campaign is making fake images of Trump to smear him. 0.56

00:51:47.000 Don't trust dishonest Ron. 0.94

00:51:49.000 They're going to be running that like crazy.

00:51:51.000 And it'll be like an image of a serpent with Ron's head on it and stuff like that.

00:51:54.000 All these wild, deep fakes.

00:51:55.000 And it's going to say real-life Ron on the picture of the serpent.

00:51:59.000 Real life Ron.

00:52:00.000 That should be his nickname for Ron.

00:52:01.000 But anything now that Ron DeSantis says, Trump can easily just be like, are you going to believe him?

00:52:06.000 The guy who makes fake images to win arguments?

00:52:08.000 I don't want to insult Ron, but I get the vibe that he's just a guy that was in the right place at the right time.

00:52:13.000 That he's not really special.

00:52:14.000 He's not really super smart.

00:52:15.000 He doesn't have the best people around him.

00:52:17.000 And now they want him in the public because they don't like Donald Trump.

00:52:21.000 So anyone will do.

00:52:21.000 This guy's establishment.

00:52:22.000 Let's just get him up there.

00:52:24.000 He'll be fine.

00:52:25.000 I disagree.

00:52:25.000 I think that's a little harsh.

00:52:28.000 Again, I prefer Trump as of now, but also DeSantis is somebody who did stand up to the COVID regime and the lockdown regime and he pushed back against it and he did stand up to the media.

00:52:41.000 I do think he's very intelligent.

00:52:42.000 I wouldn't go as far as to say he's just like a mediocre politician like the rest of them.

00:52:46.000 I think he's a step above.

00:52:48.000 I do too.

00:52:49.000 I think what he did with COVID was groundbreaking.

00:52:52.000 You could argue that it saved the republic in a way.

00:52:56.000 It was an indication of how to save a republic.

00:52:59.000 I won't support DeSantis at all.

00:53:03.000 Unless he disavows and we see some real terminations over this.

00:53:06.000 The DeSantis campaign choosing to focus on Fauci specifically is a genius move.

00:53:14.000 It is such a potent attack, especially because there are so many Trump supporters who do have so many questions about Operation Warp Speed and Fauci, but they just overplayed their hand for no good reason. 0.99

00:53:24.000 This was like a very stupid misplay. 0.99

00:53:27.000 You didn't have to do it. 1.00

00:53:28.000 Trump was already praising Operation Warp Speed still.

00:53:31.000 He didn't fire Fauci for whatever reason, and that's a whole different conversation. 1.00

00:53:35.000 And they could have kept hitting him on this, but such an unforced error is so stupid, frankly. 0.98

00:53:40.000 And the response from DeSantis' hardcore fans is it's almost as if they're actually leftists or Trump supporters trying to sabotage Ron DeSantis. 0.99

00:53:50.000 You can't come out and be like, but Trump posted Ron on a rhinoceros. 0.99

00:53:55.000 If that's your argument, you're just trying to make DeSantis supporters look really, really dumb. 0.99

00:53:59.000 There's no argument. 0.94

00:54:00.000 Literally, DeSantis camp should come out and be like, these got mixed in.

00:54:05.000 They could say, we didn't make these, we saw them, we put it in the ad, it's our mistake, we didn't check, we disavow, we apologize, it'll never happen again.

00:54:12.000 If it's true, I don't want them lying to people.

00:54:15.000 No, I'm saying that's their best out, in my opinion.

00:54:17.000 Or I could be like, the guy that created this, it was an oversight on my part, I didn't realize the amount of damage it could do to the political process, and he's fired, and I'm not gonna ever do this again.

00:54:25.000 We should say if a deepfake is a deepfake.

00:54:26.000 But you don't know the person they're firing actually did it.

00:54:29.000 That's what I want to ask.

00:54:29.000 True.

00:54:30.000 They're gonna say some random name, they're gonna say, you know, Ian Coghlan is the guy who did it, so he's fired, and then Ian Coghlan's gonna be like, I just work in the mailroom!

00:54:39.000 It doesn't matter.

00:54:40.000 They stick a name to it and they say, we're good.

00:54:43.000 Well, I wanted to be honest about it.

00:54:44.000 I wanted to honestly take the person to task that created this and thought it was a good idea.

00:54:50.000 Next year, deepfake technology will be 100-fold better than this.

00:54:56.000 I'm concerned what's going to happen is only after the ashes do people realize we need to legislate.

00:55:00.000 This went unnoticed for three days, I believe.

00:55:02.000 I believe it was posted June 5th at 3 p.m.

00:55:06.000 So this went unnoticed for three days, and it could have easily continued to have gone unnoticed.

00:55:11.000 And I think that just speaks to the future of what we are going to see with much more compelling AI.

00:55:16.000 We didn't catch this, like, Tim said, like, oh, the wording was off.

00:55:19.000 If somebody kept, like, took a good eye to this, they would have been able to spot it.

00:55:23.000 But three days, there's going to be a ton of stuff that a lot of people miss.

00:55:26.000 And a lot of articles are probably written about it.

00:55:28.000 Smaller ones being, like, DeSantis hits Trump on Fauci, and then they did not realize.

00:55:34.000 Yep.

00:55:34.000 I mean, it really is going to get to a point where we look back and we say, anything that was published before 2023, as far as photography goes, can be inspected to see if it's photoshopped or not, and so we can trust that.

00:55:46.000 Or, I think even a point before 2023, because maybe there are people who had this technology before it became widely available and were using it, and we'll find out about that at some point.

00:55:56.000 Who knows?

00:55:56.000 But I think that's gonna, we are gonna get to a point where we'll kind of only be able to verify things that are old enough.

00:56:01.000 I was so wrong when I went on Rogan and he asked me about deepfake technology and I said no I'm not super concerned because people have trust and he asked me if I thought it was gonna get bad and I said I didn't think so and now that it's all happening it's just like it is gonna be worse than anyone realizes.

00:56:17.000 What's going to happen is, we're going to get to a point where what they're going to say is, any image generated after 2023 is not real.

00:56:26.000 And you're going to be like, well, clearly some of them are real, like, yes, but they can never be, they're no longer admissible in court.

00:56:31.000 Like, one of the big things that's going to happen, I have already witnessed this, courts have admitted fake AI generated images.

00:56:40.000 We saw it with Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:56:42.000 But I can tell you about other court cases, definitively, that have said they absolutely will admit deepfake videos, and it is the responsibility of the person disputing it to prove it's not real.

00:56:56.000 That's what the courts are saying right now.

00:56:58.000 Man, people put a lot of faith in the intelligence of the authority and they're not necessarily intelligent people.

00:57:03.000 It's going to be wild.

00:57:04.000 That's insane, the idea that the burden has to be on you to prove these things wrong.

00:57:07.000 We were talking about this with another guest who suggested there's going to have to be an entire new field of forensics that builds up to dispel these things.

00:57:13.000 It's not possible.

00:57:14.000 But I think in the long run, well I mean yeah, but that's the point I'm making is I think in the long run it might become impossible.

00:57:20.000 The technology will get so good that you can't investigate these things.

00:57:23.000 It's impossible now.

00:57:25.000 The remedy for someone introducing deepfakes to court is for you to bring an expert in. 1.00

00:57:31.000 So what happens is, let's say you have actual video evidence of Donald Trump doing a backflip.

00:57:38.000 And you're in court and you say, Your Honor, Trump did the backflip, here's the video.

00:57:40.000 And Trump goes, it's not real, it's a fake video.

00:57:43.000 And then Trump's team just goes to an expert and says, is it real?

00:57:46.000 And they go, yeah, that's real.

00:57:47.000 I said, okay, next expert, is that real?

00:57:49.000 Yeah, that's real.

00:57:50.000 Next expert, is that real?

00:57:51.000 How much are you gonna pay me?

00:57:53.000 What's your rate?

00:57:54.000 $5,000 a day.

00:57:55.000 We'll pay you that.

00:57:56.000 It's fake.

00:57:57.000 Come on down to Chinatown.

00:57:58.000 I bring him into the courtroom and then he says it's fake.

00:58:01.000 What's extra unnerving to this, too, is that it'll bring all photos and videos, even of the past, into question.

00:58:08.000 And then there's gonna be revisionist history for everything, and it's gonna be very bad.

00:58:13.000 This is the door right now.

00:58:15.000 Images of Donald Trump hugging Dr. Fauci.

00:58:18.000 And if you take a look at them, if they only used the one on the bottom right, That they would've gotten away with it.

00:58:25.000 The one in the middle, in the bottom, where Trump has his arms around him and he's holding his fist, is very strange.

00:58:30.000 The top left, with Mehehapwems in the White House emblem, clearly fake.

00:58:35.000 The one in the bottom right, you can't really tell, except for the textures.

00:58:38.000 And someone might say, no, that's real.

00:58:40.000 They could argue that.

00:58:41.000 They made the mistake of using three, with one being discernibly fake, which then provides evidence the other ones are likely fake, too.

00:58:48.000 Obviously, though, man, from a distance, I'm sitting at, they all look real.

00:58:51.000 This all looks real to me from where I'm at.

00:58:54.000 Exactly.

00:58:54.000 Now imagine you're in an airport, and this ad runs on the TV, or a news outlet covers the ad and says, take a look at this ad run by the DeSantis campaign.

00:59:02.000 And then you see, on a grainy television far away, Trump hugging DeSantis.

00:59:07.000 That's the point.

00:59:08.000 DeSantis.

00:59:08.000 Now we're talking.

00:59:09.000 Hugging Fauci.

00:59:12.000 DeSantis' campaign releases an ad.

00:59:13.000 Forgiveness.

00:59:14.000 Donald Trump endorses us.

00:59:16.000 He wants you to vote for us instead.

00:59:18.000 Kiss him on the nose.

00:59:19.000 They put Trump's voice in the AI generator?

00:59:21.000 That could be.

00:59:23.000 Are you allowed to make claims about what other people said and did that they didn't do?

00:59:26.000 That's where we're going.

00:59:27.000 But it's been two years.

00:59:28.000 Do they have some kind of polling?

00:59:30.000 We don't have these.

00:59:32.000 So he gave him another hug.

00:59:33.000 Is it really going to boost DeSantis and not Trump?

00:59:36.000 Like a quarter to a third of Trump's base, those diehards, absolutely hate the vaccine stuff, and hate the Fauci stuff, hate all the lockdown, Operation Warp Speed, think all that stuff is super toxic.

00:59:48.000 And I do think it was a potent message, the more he brought it up.

00:59:51.000 But now overplaying his hand, kind of...

00:59:54.000 ruins it. Exactly. Like when Trump, you know, he can bring this up and he can say,

00:59:59.000 you didn't fire Fauci, you pushed the vaccines. Oh, did I kiss him on the nose, Ron? Really?

01:00:03.000 Did I give him a big bear hug and kiss him on the nose? 1.00

01:00:05.000 This man's ridiculous. 1.00

01:00:06.000 Right. Just easy to dismiss. Why exaggerate if the truth is already bad enough? Even focus on 1.00

01:00:11.000 Operation Warp Speed because a lot of Trump supporters are really against that. But like,

01:00:15.000 to do something so stupid, again, unfortunately. That's why I said the not intelligent vibe I get 0.99

01:00:20.000 from him or that he's surrounded himself with really poorly educated, like people that just don't get it.

01:00:24.000 because why would you do that?

01:00:25.000 Why would you sabotage yourself when your enemy is making a mistake?

01:00:28.000 It's like the oldest art of war obvious... Someone just pointed something out.

01:00:32.000 The bottom image with Trump hugging Fauci is actually, look, it's a Photoshop from when he hugged the flag.

01:00:39.000 So you remember the picture of Trump hugging the flag?

01:00:42.000 It does look like that, I'm not 100% sure.

01:00:44.000 That's kind of how AI works too.

01:00:45.000 I think AI also takes things, yeah.

01:00:49.000 So where this goes, we are going to video and photos, and what can you do about it?

01:00:57.000 That's why I think it's so important to call this out and say no to it, because If, and this is why I'm like, the DeSantis supporters are doing everything in their power to hurt Ron DeSantis.

01:00:57.000 I know.

01:01:10.000 Because there's no excuse for using fake images to smear a political opponent right now.

01:01:17.000 We know how dangerous the AI stuff is going to be.

01:01:20.000 We need to put a hard line in the sand right now and say, we will not tolerate this in any capacity.

01:01:24.000 And the DeSantis supporters are like, no, it's fine.

01:01:26.000 And you know what's actually really creepy?

01:01:27.000 Because Trump posted these funny images, and this is okay.

01:01:29.000 I could also see this technology increasing the demand for a surveillance state because

01:01:33.000 people could say things like, well, look, if you have the GPS chip on your phone tracking you at

01:01:38.000 all time, you can actually confirm where you were at any given date and time. And so you

01:01:42.000 could debunk certain deepfakes with that information. More like more, more, more.

01:01:49.000 Well, I wonder if. Accountability.

01:01:51.000 Well, not so much that as much as I'm saying, like, I think because of the deepfake technology,

01:01:58.000 people who are very concerned about being deepfaked could turn to other methods of documenting their

01:02:03.000 life that we currently consider invasive, like having your smartphone track you everywhere you

01:02:07.000 are all the time and then deliver the data to you or to some larger database that could confirm

01:02:12.000 that you really were there. Something like that.

01:02:14.000 to put the onus of proof on the person that's offering the image or the video.

01:02:14.000 I would agree.

01:02:18.000 I think the solution to this is going to be a ton more media literacy in the public and

01:02:24.000 you will not be, you're going to have to not believe literally a single thing, a video

01:02:29.000 or picture that you see on the internet and you will have to question it.

01:02:32.000 I am not 100% sure this is real and it's sad because the media literacy in our public is

01:02:38.000 already very low.

01:02:39.000 Twitter is not helping, but it's going to be crucial moving forward as we're seeing AI and disinformation and misinformation in the flesh actually exist.

01:02:46.000 Well, you got to wonder if, you know, five, ten years from now, people see these things and they say, do you see the footage of him doing that?

01:02:53.000 Well, yeah, that's just a video.

01:02:55.000 You know, it's just video footage, whatever.

01:02:56.000 It's easily faked.

01:02:57.000 I think we're going back to the Dark Ages, in a sense.

01:03:01.000 There was a time period where we did not know what was going on.

01:03:04.000 A hundred, two hundred years ago, you're living on a farm, and then the newspaper man comes to town.

01:03:09.000 And you go, oh, but the newspaper's here!

01:03:11.000 And then they all get together, and then he's like, I got the paper, here's what's happened in New York, and you're like, wow, and that was a month ago.

01:03:16.000 It's funny.

01:03:16.000 Like a month ago, a ship came and it carried a bunch of ivory, and I'm like, what?

01:03:19.000 They called it the Dark Ages, but it was really like the Blind Ages, like too much light will blind you, and you may as well be dark, because you can't see anything.

01:03:26.000 That's a very good way of putting it.

01:03:27.000 That's exactly what, yeah, exactly it.

01:03:29.000 We're entering a period where it's, we can call it the Light Ages, where there's so much information, we're blinded by it, and we can't see what's going on.

01:03:37.000 Soon enough, the only place you'll be able to know things are real from is TimCast News.

01:03:40.000 That's right.

01:03:41.000 That's the only way.

01:03:42.000 But you're a robot.

01:03:43.000 But you don't want to say we can't be deepfaked.

01:03:47.000 It's not possible.

01:03:49.000 Anything you see of us is real.

01:03:50.000 Well, Seamus is actually not a real person.

01:03:52.000 I'm not even real.

01:03:53.000 I'm a computer algorithm, it's true. 0.51

01:03:55.000 I remember you being a potato.

01:03:57.000 That's extremely offensive.

01:03:59.000 Firstly, you're going to hear from my lawyer, my friend.

01:04:01.000 The reason he was off the show for so long was because the computer that generates his voice and image is broken.

01:04:05.000 It broke down, yeah.

01:04:06.000 I accidentally poured some Coca-Cola on it.

01:04:10.000 And it's powered by a potato.

01:04:11.000 I feel like asking people not to use this technology is like asking people not to use the newest weapon that was developed.

01:04:16.000 Exactly.

01:04:16.000 And it's not who the hell, like maybe you can get a non-proliferation treaty for all the weaker countries around Earth, but the big superpowers are definitely going to weaponize using it.

01:04:25.000 Technology's inevitable.

01:04:25.000 You can't stop it.

01:04:27.000 Well, yeah, because I remember there was some talk of... Elon Musk was talking about this a few months ago.

01:04:27.000 Mm-hmm.

01:04:33.000 A bunch of people signing an agreement to stop or slow down the development of AI.

01:04:38.000 Okay, well, let's see if China agrees to that.

01:04:40.000 Let's see if Russia agrees to that.

01:04:41.000 Let's see if, like, any other technological power is willing to hold off on the development of this unbelievably profitable and powerful technology.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, let's see if OpenAI agrees to it.

01:04:49.000 A decade ago we were having the same conversation about genetic engineering and how we should stop researching it, but nobody across the world was going to get on board with that, and I don't believe the solution is trying to stop the advancement of the technology.

01:05:03.000 You think you should just use it better than anyone else?

01:05:05.000 Well, if we stop doing it, China's not going to stop. 0.98

01:05:07.000 So we need to figure out the correct way to use it.

01:05:10.000 And like in the genetic engineering conversation is like finding the right way to attack and defend against diseases that are potentially made in the future.

01:05:20.000 Yeah, gain of function.

01:05:21.000 Look where genetic engineering got us! 0.85

01:05:23.000 I mean, I know that's a whole big... Fauci, I can't believe Trump didn't fire him!

01:05:28.000 I hear ya! 0.99

01:05:29.000 Turn it around, you snake! 0.97

01:05:31.000 Operation Warp Speed! 0.98

01:05:33.000 No, look, I agree with you on both of those things.

01:05:35.000 When you guys are doing publicity, Adam, do you do, like, ethics?

01:05:39.000 Are they involved?

01:05:40.000 Do you have to account for ethics, or do you just do whatever you gotta do to get it done?

01:05:46.000 Is it about winning or is it about doing what's right?

01:05:48.000 Like, how do you, how do you play?

01:05:49.000 I mean, you always got to do what's right, but there's, you know, you can play the little publicity stunts here and there that make sense, but you got to play by the rules, right?

01:05:58.000 You got to, I would have said, don't do this.

01:06:00.000 It's a fake.

01:06:01.000 You can't just put out fake photos like that's when you're running for president of the United States and you're the second, you know, the right behind Trump, the runner up.

01:06:09.000 It's, it's risk versus reward.

01:06:10.000 You know, you're, you're, you're, you're betting on the loser horse.

01:06:14.000 It's like, we're gonna make this thing, and what we can gain from it is minimal, and what we can lose from it is everything.

01:06:20.000 Well, and, you know, you made the point that some of these images are fake, but we wouldn't be able to tell.

01:06:24.000 It would have been much more difficult to tell, at the very least, if we didn't have the picture with lettering behind it that was so over-the-top with him smooching Fauci. 0.75

01:06:30.000 And you gotta wonder, are there other instances of deepfakes being out there in political campaigns being used that we just haven't picked up on because they weren't as ridiculous?

01:06:39.000 You guys think DeSantis signed off on this? 0.91

01:06:41.000 Oh, I have no clue.

01:06:43.000 I think it went under the radar.

01:06:44.000 A lowly staffer.

01:06:47.000 I think it's possible he signed off on it, but, like, he's sitting in his office typing on a computer and they pull up an iPad and they hold it up to him and say, here's the ad, and he's sitting there and he watches and he goes, it's great, run it, and then, anyway, guys, what were we talking about?

01:06:57.000 So... The buck stops with him, definitely.

01:07:00.000 But I don't think he knew they ran deepfake images.

01:07:03.000 I'm saying, like, if he approved of it, he looked at it, didn't realize what it was, and said, looks good.

01:07:10.000 The DeSantis campaign is 100% correct to criticize Trump on Fauci and Birx.

01:07:16.000 This ruined it for them.

01:07:17.000 Literally this morning, I'm like, DeSantis has given us everything we've asked for in Florida.

01:07:22.000 He's been leading so well.

01:07:24.000 He does lack charisma, but Trump really does have a weakness when it comes to Fauci, Dr. Birx, and the COVID response, and that's where they can go after him. 0.97

01:07:30.000 And then all of a sudden, I see this news, and I'm like, holy crap. 0.96

01:07:34.000 Did they really screw this one up?

01:07:36.000 And then instead of being like, we disavow, we apologize, we don't know how this got out, the supporters all run out full speed and say, we are allowed to do it.

01:07:45.000 And I'm like, okay, DeSantis' supporters are some of the nastiest people online. 0.99

01:07:49.000 Nasty. 0.97

01:07:50.000 Trump's got nasty people, don't get me wrong, but the fact that they will defend anything, and you've got people tweeting at me being like, why aren't you criticizing Trump? 0.99

01:07:57.000 And I'm like, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that because Trump was a dick, that means DeSantis is allowed to do things that are wrong. 0.99

01:08:05.000 And that's the best they could offer. 0.99

01:08:06.000 Well, what about Trump?

01:08:07.000 What about him?

01:08:08.000 Are you gonna say that DeSantis can do this because Trump's bad too?

01:08:11.000 Great.

01:08:11.000 I'll vote for the Libertarian Party.

01:08:12.000 I don't need either of them.

01:08:14.000 That's where we're going.

01:08:15.000 Yeah, I went down in 2000- Yeah, Dave Smith.

01:08:15.000 Dave Smith.

01:08:18.000 November 2020.

01:08:19.000 I had to get the hell out of New York.

01:08:21.000 Lockdowns.

01:08:22.000 You can't go to a restaurant.

01:08:23.000 You can't go to a gym.

01:08:24.000 I said, I'm getting- Went down to visit a client.

01:08:27.000 He was having a party in his townhouse in Miami Beach.

01:08:30.000 I said, I'm coming here, right?

01:08:32.000 And so DeSantis did a great job for two years.

01:08:34.000 I even went to a fundraiser that Trump did for him.

01:08:36.000 It was about in September of 2020.

01:08:40.000 And then I was trying to be charismatic with DeSantis, but it's very hard.

01:08:45.000 He doesn't know any of the personality Trump has.

01:08:48.000 And it stuck out to me.

01:08:49.000 I said, I just got down here.

01:08:51.000 I had to get out of New York.

01:08:52.000 And I couldn't get any personality out of him.

01:08:54.000 And I was with my dad.

01:08:55.000 He's 85 at the time.

01:08:56.000 And he says, is that your dad?

01:08:58.000 Trump says, is that your dad?

01:08:59.000 Get him over here.

01:09:00.000 And I says, I'm thinking back, I says, that's the difference, you know?

01:09:04.000 Trump's personality, he knows what's in a room and he can work a room.

01:09:07.000 It doesn't matter.

01:09:08.000 But DeSantis, I don't think this was his time.

01:09:10.000 He really shouldn't have went.

01:09:11.000 Someone super chatted us and said that Donald Trump is actually a DJ.

01:09:15.000 He's DJ Trump.

01:09:15.000 Yeah.

01:09:17.000 Like, oh yeah, that's kind of funny.

01:09:17.000 Literally.

01:09:19.000 He's a people person.

01:09:21.000 That's a big part of being president, too, is you're a people person.

01:09:23.000 Larger-than-life personality.

01:09:25.000 You were at the Social Media Summit?

01:09:26.000 Yeah.

01:09:27.000 Two and a—three years ago?

01:09:27.000 At the White House?

01:09:28.000 Yeah, something like three years ago.

01:09:29.000 Trump was doing a stand-up routine.

01:09:31.000 Yeah.

01:09:32.000 We're sitting there, and I'm like, I have no idea what this is.

01:09:34.000 We're in—I thought it was gonna be like a roundtable with a small group of people.

01:09:37.000 Yes, I did.

01:09:37.000 And then we sit down, there's chairs lining up in front of a podium, and Trump just does stand-up.

01:09:41.000 And we were all laughing our asses off.

01:09:42.000 And I was like, what the— Is this funny?

01:09:45.000 I don't know what's going on, but it's hilarious.

01:09:46.000 I thought we were going to get away with no mudslinging, man. 1.00

01:09:49.000 And this is typical Trump, because after Trump won, remember he said, everybody want to come in the garden with me afterwards?

01:09:56.000 And he was doing a presser with Attorney General Barr.

01:10:02.000 And then some of the influencers got in it with CNN and a couple of reporters.

01:10:06.000 Oh, that was funny.

01:10:07.000 Yeah, there was like a fight broke out or something, right?

01:10:10.000 I think it was Bryce, the guy who was the Playboy White House correspondent.

01:10:14.000 Only under Trump... Oh, the guy who was Gorka.

01:10:17.000 Gorka got in it with the Playboy, I can't remember his name, but he was the Playboy White House correspondent.

01:10:22.000 Only under Trump that he made all these irrelevant White House correspondents famous.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 That they got book deals and everything.

01:10:30.000 That's why they want him back in office.

01:10:32.000 That's why they're trying to push these indictments and all that.

01:10:34.000 Seamus is waiting patiently to dive behind you.

01:10:36.000 And I think something that you hit spot on is about the lack of charisma from DeSantis.

01:10:41.000 So last week for TimCast News, I covered all of his stops in New Hampshire.

01:10:47.000 He kind of gave the same speech four different times, but he really isn't personable Lacks like that natural charisma and really comes off kind of smug and rigid or at least that was my impression I also feel as though he tries to play off as though he's not an elitist Although he still has gone to these prestigious colleges.

01:11:06.000 I believe at least Yale, but maybe also Harvard so So when Ron comes on this show and it's going to be hot, you better look at me in the eyes and be like, not intelligent, huh?

01:11:16.000 And then look at Tim and be like, so no charisma.

01:11:18.000 You better call us on this stuff because this is what the conversation is about.

01:11:21.000 If you're really going to be a better president, then we got to air it out.

01:11:24.000 Well, I just, look man, when I brought up the Jazz Jennings thing, the DeSantis, Pasha and Redfern started tweeting at me, calling me a grifter and insulting me for simply pointing out that Jazz Jennings lives in Florida and these horrible things are happening.

01:11:40.000 And I was like, why are you yelling at me?

01:11:42.000 What is with these people?

01:11:44.000 They're very defensive over him.

01:11:46.000 His online team... He's gotta fire them.

01:11:48.000 These are terrible people. 0.70

01:11:49.000 They're destroying his campaign. 1.00

01:11:51.000 Yeah, they'll come after you like dogs.

01:11:53.000 If they perceive an attack like that as an attack, although it wasn't... You know what the best thing they could have done would be?

01:11:59.000 Literally say nothing.

01:12:00.000 You know the second best thing they could've done if they had to do something?

01:12:03.000 Say, Tim, we're on it.

01:12:05.000 With a winky emoji.

01:12:06.000 And then I would've been like, oh look at that, DeSantis campaign knows, they're doing something.

01:12:09.000 And they could've done nothing!

01:12:10.000 They could've just posted that and it would've been, that's the end of it.

01:12:14.000 Instead, they decided to go to war and create a conflict that creates negative attention around DeSantis and led to the confirmation that Jazz Jennings received gender surgery in Florida under the rule of Ron DeSantis. 0.86

01:12:28.000 Ron DeSantis was governor, Jazz did receive surgery.

01:12:31.000 And so, they want to play this game like, Ron doesn't have a time machine.

01:12:34.000 Well, now you open the door, and now we know that it was under Ron.

01:12:38.000 So, I think, you were making that point, Ian, that everything Ron did was safe?

01:12:42.000 Just in general?

01:12:46.000 Maybe.

01:12:48.000 I'm not sure.

01:12:52.000 I don't know if I was making that point hard, but I do believe that.

01:12:55.000 He's a very play-it-safe kind of guy, which concerns me that he'll get co-opted by the bureaucracy, or already has been.

01:13:01.000 Like, I don't see him being willing to go off script.

01:13:06.000 Get off the script, dude!

01:13:07.000 I don't want to hear what you wrote down.

01:13:09.000 I think he's got to fire these people.

01:13:11.000 He has to fire them because they are really, really bad at what they do.

01:13:15.000 I think he's trying really hard to beat Trump on policy, but is forgetting that most people actually do not care much at all about policy.

01:13:22.000 That's not what's getting somebody to vote for you or not.

01:13:24.000 When he's trying to hit on Trump on abortion, like, Seamus doesn't care.

01:13:28.000 Seamus still supports Trump.

01:13:30.000 Although DeSantis is more... No, it's not.

01:13:31.000 No, no, no.

01:13:32.000 I actually, that's one of the things... I'm not in an entirely committed position.

01:13:36.000 I think it depends on what their stances end up being.

01:13:39.000 I prefer Trump as a candidate in a lot of ways, but I'm always voting the pro-life candidate.

01:13:44.000 So here's the thing.

01:13:45.000 You prefer Trump right now, although he is more pro-choice than DeSantis.

01:13:49.000 Well, if we're talking about who's more likely to win a federal election, I think especially if Trump's position were to change to a more pro-life position, it wouldn't even be a question for me.

01:13:58.000 But if we're talking about who's more charismatic, who's probably more likely to carry voters, yeah, I think Trump.

01:14:04.000 There was also some talk behind the scenes that there was a leak from DeSantis' campaign that suggested he might not hold to as strong a pro-life stance.

01:14:11.000 I'm not sure if we confirmed that.

01:14:16.000 That doesn't mean anything, but yeah, I'm always going to pick the most pro-life candidate.

01:14:19.000 DeSantis is trying to hit him from the right, but most people seem to not even care, as they should, or just how politics plays out.

01:14:27.000 Ron's biggest strength is to just say, I'm just like Trump, but I'm calm.

01:14:32.000 Yeah, I mean all their personalities, policies, ideologies are pretty much the same, 90%.

01:14:36.000 How did Trump conquer and become the personality?

01:14:40.000 His personality is larger than life.

01:14:42.000 He's engaging.

01:14:42.000 He's funny.

01:14:44.000 He's a New York style personality.

01:14:46.000 He's flexible on the issues, though.

01:14:47.000 And he's pragmatic at times.

01:14:50.000 And I think Tim has a great point.

01:14:52.000 Ron should be the comma Trump.

01:14:54.000 Yep, you know somewhat like a Ronald Reagan mode our policies are the same

01:14:58.000 He did a great job, but we need to come we need to have a combination at the moment

01:15:03.000 We need to bring in moderates We need to win the middle and that's about Ron's best play 0.98

01:15:06.000 not the bitter bitter back and forth And that's not the way to do you cannot gonna win back and

01:15:10.000 forth with Trump. There's no way Trump's probably one He's one of the least right-wing candidates though in the

01:15:15.000 Republic. I mean he slayed really He slayed brilliant candidates in the 60s.

01:15:19.000 Pro-gay marriage is relatively loose on abortion at this point, compared to Pence, compared to DeSantis, among other things.

01:15:27.000 Yeah, I think there's a lot of positions where Trump could and should be better.

01:15:31.000 There's absolutely no disagreement there. 0.98

01:15:33.000 That's why DeSantis is dumb for trying to win on policy. 0.98

01:15:36.000 You're not going to beat Trump on policy by trying to hit him from the right. 0.99

01:15:39.000 That's been DeSantis' play here.

01:15:41.000 He's thinking of it too much like a politician.

01:15:43.000 That's not how Trump won.

01:15:44.000 Trump didn't win based on... I want to clarify too.

01:15:47.000 I am not saying the president should be calm.

01:15:49.000 I'm saying the selling point DeSantis has is that he is like Trump but calm.

01:15:53.000 Because there are a lot of moderates and independents that think Trump is too over the top.

01:15:57.000 My personal view?

01:15:58.000 We need Trump to go in like a bull in a china shop and fire all these people.

01:16:01.000 Yeah, and so there have been a number of things, like on the abortion messaging, where I think Trump has been entirely wrong.

01:16:06.000 I'd like to see him shift there, absolutely.

01:16:09.000 I do, in that sense, very much prefer DeSantis' stance.

01:16:12.000 He's pro-life, and when it comes to the primary, I'm always going to vote for the most pro-life candidate.

01:16:16.000 But part of my critique of DeSantis has also been the fact that he lacks charisma.

01:16:21.000 And a lot of diehard supporters get upset with me for saying that, but you're not helping him or his campaign by not addressing that.

01:16:26.000 So respectfully, if DeSantis is more pro-life than Donald Trump, why don't you support DeSantis over Trump?

01:16:32.000 I think as a candidate, DeSantis is less charismatic.

01:16:37.000 I'm not saying that I would definitively support Trump over DeSantis in the primary without any qualification there.

01:16:45.000 I think if Trump moved to a more pro-life stance, I absolutely would.

01:16:49.000 And I also think that if DeSantis became more charismatic and was a more pragmatic candidate on the national stage, That would help him quite a bit.

01:16:57.000 I think Trump blamed the midterm losses from Republicans on the abortion issue.

01:17:01.000 And I discussed that on my podcast with Lila Rose.

01:17:03.000 I think that's a massive failure on his part.

01:17:06.000 When DeSantis came out saying six weeks, Trump was still like, oh... Trump said that he called it cruel, which I think was horrible messaging and I think is entirely wrong.

01:17:13.000 So, but it still doesn't matter to you.

01:17:13.000 Yeah.

01:17:16.000 No, I never said that.

01:17:17.000 No, I never said that.

01:17:18.000 I never said it doesn't matter to me.

01:17:19.000 I said that DeSantis needs to work on his charisma.

01:17:21.000 I think where Trump, and I would also, and this is why I'm saying as of now, because I think it's possible Trump moves on that issue.

01:17:28.000 As you mentioned, Trump is very flexible and he's been in different positions and adopted different positions over time.

01:17:34.000 I would say that when it comes to DeSantis building up his charisma, making that statement isn't saying that I'm now a diehard Trump supporter who will never like DeSantis.

01:17:43.000 It's simply saying that I think he needs to fix that problem to be a more palatable candidate.

01:17:49.000 Yeah.

01:17:49.000 DeSantis will not beat Trump from a policy.

01:17:49.000 That's all.

01:17:52.000 Even though he may be better on policy, that's not how he's going to beat him.

01:17:55.000 Oh no, I agree, and this is the thing, so I was getting into so many arguments with people about this because I was saying DeSantis needs to work up his charisma, he needs to get better at this, and they were saying, oh, like charisma matters, people should vote on policy, agreed, people should vote on policy, they're probably not going to, right?

01:18:11.000 They never do.

01:18:12.000 You, and so that's my point where I, and I said this so many times, I think that, um, I think that a stronger DeSantis is better for America overall, regardless who ends up getting the nomination, regardless of who ends up winning.

01:18:24.000 I think it is better for America for both of these men to be as strong as they can be and to be as effective as they can be.

01:18:30.000 And one of the areas where DeSantis lacks effectiveness is his charisma.

01:18:34.000 you need a maddingly, you don't need one, but you will benefit severely from a charismatic

01:18:38.000 military commander. He's the commander of the military. If you, if the troops believe in you,

01:18:42.000 they'll fight and die for you. If they don't, they're going to quit. Look at our military

01:18:46.000 right now with Joe Biden frailing around. It's a, it's a travesty. Yeah. I like that description.

01:18:51.000 Oh, it's flailing and frailing.

01:18:53.000 Flailing and frail together.

01:18:54.000 Falling at the same time.

01:18:55.000 Frailing.

01:18:56.000 And this lack of charisma.

01:18:58.000 At least Trump is charismatic.

01:19:00.000 Whether you like him or not doesn't matter.

01:19:01.000 You can have high charisma and be unliked.

01:19:03.000 It doesn't mean people are going to like you.

01:19:05.000 I think this is a call for DeSantis to get in here and we all have to work on his personality a bit.

01:19:12.000 Hell yes, dude.

01:19:13.000 Let's talk about mushrooms, man.

01:19:15.000 We need to talk about things that people really care about.

01:19:15.000 Let's get real.

01:19:18.000 We talked about this a bit when he announced that I can't believe they looked at that announcement video that he posted on Twitter and they were like, this is good.

01:19:26.000 I can't believe they did not have someone at the level they're at.

01:19:29.000 They're in second place right now in the Republican primary for the presidency of the United States, and they couldn't get someone to come and look at that video and be like, guys, you need more energy.

01:19:37.000 Whatever you gotta do to get more energy in there, have an eagle fly over.

01:19:40.000 I don't know what it is, but Ron walking up and being like, freedom is worth fighting for, was just... Watch Barack Obama announce.

01:19:49.000 He did it, he's in front of all these people, he's got a huge crowd, and he does that thing where he pauses what he's saying very slowly and elevates his voice.

01:19:56.000 THAT'S WHY I, BARACK OBAMA, AM ANNOUNCING!

01:20:00.000 And the crowd starts screaming and there's all that energy, and you watch that video and you're like, wow.

01:20:06.000 People are getting fired up.

01:20:08.000 Then you go in the Twitter space and Ron's like, well I'm here to lead the American comeback!

01:20:11.000 you're like okay. You know who was, Ronald Reagan was brilliant with visuals, Bill

01:20:16.000 Clinton was brilliant with visuals, Ron DeSantis lost the simple rule of

01:20:20.000 politics, visuals are very important. He announced on Twitter, did we have any

01:20:24.000 visuals? None. Zero. You can never revisit that moment.

01:20:27.000 Right, so you got one shot to announce right, that one day and he should have been in one

01:20:31.000 of the counties that he did such tremendous job in Florida.

01:20:34.000 He's got a great story to tell and he should be with supporters, his family, his wife is up there and that would have been an amazing announcement.

01:20:42.000 He could have gotten like a giant drone.

01:20:44.000 You ever see those drones that people ride?

01:20:45.000 The big ones?

01:20:46.000 He could have landed Look, I'm half-kidding, but he could have done anything to generate spectacle. 0.99

01:20:52.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:20:54.000 Yeah, right. 0.99

01:20:55.000 He's standing on like a quadcopter as it lands, and then he jumps off and walks to the podium in front of a huge crowd and they're like, what is going on?

01:21:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:03.000 I hate to be so superficial, but if you could pull up him smiling, Ron DeSantis has a horrible smile.

01:21:10.000 If you seriously could.

01:21:12.000 He was sending out emails of him smiling.

01:21:14.000 It's just, that's one of the biggest things.

01:21:18.000 It kind of looks like he's in pain, man.

01:21:20.000 I don't think these are good smiles.

01:21:22.000 Maybe he is in pain.

01:21:24.000 We are superficial people.

01:21:24.000 I don't know.

01:21:25.000 I disagree.

01:21:27.000 That's a really good smile on the right.

01:21:29.000 Yeah, I think he's fine.

01:21:30.000 That's the Ron I want to see on the right.

01:21:31.000 That's the one thing, you know what?

01:21:32.000 I don't really see much of an issue with this.

01:21:34.000 I bet when you meet him, he's probably a really cool guy.

01:21:37.000 I bet he's like a really likable guy.

01:21:39.000 You don't get to become governor if you're not.

01:21:40.000 Well, Katie Hobbs is governor.

01:21:42.000 Someone needs to take this picture right here.

01:21:44.000 John Fetterman's a senator.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:21:47.000 Someone needs to take this and then animate him going Super Saiyan.

01:21:53.000 Yeah, man.

01:21:54.000 It's easy to throw stones from the sidelines, Rob.

01:21:57.000 The deepfake thing for me is hard no.

01:21:59.000 Unless he comes out and fires somebody, someone substantial, and says, we disavow this.

01:22:04.000 Here's what's going to happen.

01:22:06.000 His PR people are going to say, don't address it at all.

01:22:09.000 Don't say anything, let it go away.

01:22:10.000 It's unacceptable.

01:22:12.000 So if he doesn't, I'm not going anywhere near... I will not support a campaign that intentionally is making fake images to lie.

01:22:19.000 I can't... Look man, I know it's politics.

01:22:22.000 People lie.

01:22:23.000 But this is a step beyond.

01:22:25.000 It's one thing to mischaracterize.

01:22:27.000 It's another thing like Trump posts these... People keep asking about Trump re-truthing that image where it's allegedly DeSantis with young girls, and he's trying to imply that DeSantis is like a pedo or a groom or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, that's very bad.

01:22:39.000 I do not like those things.

01:22:41.000 Trump gets no credit for me from that. 0.95

01:22:43.000 But Trump retruthing someone and being a dick is very different from your campaign running an ad where you made fake images or where you have placed, I don't know who made them, but you placed fake images to smear someone. 0.98

01:22:54.000 It is really concerning, because you could deepfake Ron with getting a back massage from his wife's sister and be like, it looks real. 0.98

01:23:00.000 And then that sows division within his family.

01:23:03.000 It's so dark, this path, man.

01:23:04.000 Because this opens the Pandora's box, right?

01:23:06.000 Do we have to live through this week after week after week?

01:23:09.000 Yeah.

01:23:10.000 The technology is moving too fast.

01:23:12.000 No one's going to back down.

01:23:12.000 We can't have this.

01:23:14.000 So right now with the AI stuff, you've got people begging these companies to stop.

01:23:19.000 We are going to die.

01:23:20.000 You need to stop this.

01:23:21.000 They can't stop.

01:23:22.000 Because you get one company saying, guys, we'll do it right.

01:23:26.000 But if we don't do it, the other company will.

01:23:28.000 So no matter what you say, you've got 10 companies, 20, 30, 40, 50, all full steam ahead on launching this AI stuff and no one will back down.

01:23:37.000 Yes, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, who's like one of the companies leading the charge of AI, went on Lex Friedman's podcast and asked Lex to his face, should we open source this?

01:23:46.000 And Lex went, no, I don't think so.

01:23:49.000 And I was like, what in the hell are you guys talking about?

01:23:51.000 You're supposed to be the thought leaders, and you don't want it open because you're afraid that someone else is going to take it and make it better than you?

01:23:58.000 So you want to make it secret so that the AI takes over?

01:24:00.000 Like, what?

01:24:01.000 Come on! 0.61

01:24:01.000 It was supposed to be open source, that's why it's called OpenAI. 0.61

01:24:03.000 It's called OpenAI and it's closed!

01:24:05.000 What the hell are you doing, Sam?

01:24:06.000 Well, uh, Elon talked about that.

01:24:09.000 Didn't he contribute a large sum of money?

01:24:10.000 And then they took the money and then turned it into a private corporation?

01:24:13.000 Oh my god, dude, it's Cyberdyne!

01:24:14.000 This is like how the Terminator got built in Terminator 2, man!

01:24:17.000 You take some proprietary AI company, it spins out of control, and then the machine goes rogue, like...

01:24:22.000 So the way the A.I.

01:24:24.000 destroys all of us is not the way people think it's going to be.

01:24:26.000 It's not going to be Terminators being like, humans are the threat. 0.99

01:24:30.000 It's going to be something ridiculous.

01:24:32.000 Like, there's that story where they claimed, and apparently it's not true, they claimed that they programmed a drone. 0.72

01:24:38.000 to fly and blow up certain targets.

01:24:38.000 They gave it an A.I.

01:24:41.000 And then it earned points when it hit the target.

01:24:44.000 In the simulation, it could only attack the target if it got approval from the operator.

01:24:50.000 It then realized the operator saying no was detrimental to it getting points, so it blew up the operator.

01:24:56.000 Then they said, okay, blowing up the operator gives you minus points, so it stopped doing that.

01:25:00.000 So then it blew up the communication towers.

01:25:02.000 Apparently they say the story is not true, or something about it is fabricated.

01:25:05.000 But the general concept of it is exactly what happens with AI and why it will go bad.

01:25:10.000 We will make an AI and we'll ask you to do something simple.

01:25:14.000 We'll make finance AI and we'll be like, hey, make these trade stocks so that we can boost our 401k and the AI earns points when people's returns improve.

01:25:26.000 What'll end up happening is it will do something totally unexpected and weird to earn points, like shorting a bunch of vital stocks, destroying the economy, and then one day people wake up and they have no savings, but one guy's got $365 trillion in his account and he doesn't know how, and it's like, I maximized my points!

01:25:42.000 Then the system completely breaks because of it.

01:25:44.000 Yeah, or you reduce the population and then you have a relatively larger number of people that are wealthy, so like... Yup!

01:25:50.000 Be careful what you... That's the monkey-paw thing. 1.00

01:25:53.000 If we told an AI to do finance, and we said, your goal is to make as much money as possible for the people who have invested in these specific, you know, EFTs or, you know, these IRAs, whatever, these stocks, this portfolio.

01:26:09.000 It will say, if we have one million people and one million dollars in the market, each person gets one dollar.

01:26:17.000 If we eliminate half of those people, everyone now has two dollars.

01:26:20.000 One of the strategies towards maximizing returns might be to literally Destroy companies through finance that produce food and medicine so that people die resulting in more of the existing wealth.

01:26:32.000 The money may become worthless because there's no people to do work, but all that matters is that number to the AI.

01:26:37.000 And you hope that an AI is intelligent enough to know what collateral damage it could cause, but I don't think anything is that perfect.

01:26:44.000 Look at what happened with YouTube.

01:26:46.000 YouTube said, we want to compete with Netflix, so we're going to make an algorithm that promotes long-form videos that people watch for a longer amount of time.

01:26:55.000 They thought they would get Game of Thrones.

01:26:57.000 They say people watch Game of Thrones for an hour, so we want content that's at least an hour that people will at least watch most of.

01:27:03.000 What did they get?

01:27:04.000 They started getting, one, podcasts, which is okay, but they started getting a lot of really freaky content of Hitler dancing with the Incredible Holt and stuff like that.

01:27:13.000 Spider-Man and Elsa doing gross stuff. For 40 minutes. Injections.

01:27:18.000 A lot of injection porn.

01:27:19.000 I remember people, yeah, well I knew people. Not actual sexual porn, just 0.96

01:27:22.000 people getting injections. That's a prime for the whole COVID narrative too. That was crazy. 0.97

01:27:27.000 Sorry to interrupt. No, no, I was just saying that I know people with kids who were like,

01:27:31.000 oh my gosh, my daughter was watching YouTube and this thing popped up basically instructing

01:27:38.000 the child on how to do something very violent. And they're like, what is going on?

01:27:42.000 And then I believe that's when YouTube ended up enabling the kids mode.

01:27:46.000 So even that didn't change it.

01:27:47.000 There were a bunch of videos where the thumbnails were children.

01:27:50.000 It was cartoons of kids drinking out of urinals and toilets and eating feces and things like that.

01:27:55.000 It's important to remember we're not just intelligence.

01:27:57.000 It's part of how we make our decisions, but emotions is a huge part, and machines don't have emotions at this stage of development.

01:28:01.000 upload them to YouTube to get traffic and make money, and then it would keep trying to maximize views and revenue,

01:28:07.000 and that's what made more money for it.

01:28:09.000 It's important to remember we're not just intelligence.

01:28:11.000 Like, it's part of how we make our decisions, but emotions is a huge part,

01:28:14.000 and machines don't have emotions at this stage of development.

01:28:17.000 I don't know if they ever really will.

01:28:19.000 They're programmed by really emotional people.

01:28:21.000 That's the thing, right?

01:28:22.000 For now?

01:28:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:24.000 Then they may start getting programmed by other AI with no emotions at all.

01:28:28.000 But then those will, like, because when you look at what ChatGPT will and won't say, a lot of it's not logical, right?

01:28:32.000 It's, like, based on somebody's emotional sensibilities.

01:28:35.000 Then if, like, ChatGPT programs something, then it's programming that thing based on the emotional sensibilities that were put into it.

01:28:40.000 Like, you've got to know when your orders are Uh, wrong.

01:28:44.000 When the orders are bad and you've got to say no to the orders.

01:28:47.000 You've got to know that, but that's an emotional ability.

01:28:50.000 I don't think that, like, you know, obviously the logic dictates ripping human bodies open to study the heart will make us better at becoming heart doctors, but that doesn't mean you want to rip human bodies open all the time to study hearts.

01:29:01.000 The AI has no conscience or moral framework, so it will just say, to better understand heart, open human.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, unless that's not programmed into it.

01:29:10.000 You just, you know, learn about hearts.

01:29:13.000 Here's how you tear a person open.

01:29:14.000 Do you guys at all think any of this AI stuff is overhyped garbage that the media likes to scaremonger around?

01:29:21.000 Not a little bit at all?

01:29:22.000 No.

01:29:22.000 I've been very reluctant to make predictions about it because of that.

01:29:27.000 I don't know.

01:29:28.000 I mean, I think almost any prediction anyone makes about AI is going to age really poorly.

01:29:33.000 Yeah, the media, I would say generally, hasn't been talking much about it at all, which is why I don't feel like that.

01:29:39.000 I'm actually scared because we talk about it, and every time we talk about it, we have these contingencies of more possible things going wrong.

01:29:45.000 I think the media talks about it a lot, and then you have these stories of the godfather of AI saying that doom is near because of this.

01:29:52.000 I feel like we're calling it AI, but it's not exactly that.

01:29:56.000 It's like a language model that is predicting the next word, so there's nothing inherently original or thoughtful in what it's producing.

01:30:04.000 And the pictures work by just mushing stuff together, so there's nothing, again, truly original.

01:30:09.000 You're referring specifically to language models.

01:30:11.000 When I talk about earning points to develop models, they have the dog robot.

01:30:17.000 that you've probably seen.

01:30:18.000 They programmed it to learn how to walk on its own, and then they left it in a room and it just figured out how to eventually walk.

01:30:27.000 I think you're right that a lot of what we're calling artificial intelligence right now is large language models, LLM, large language models, and that Sam Altman was predicting that he's the CEO of OpenAI, that by September of this year, 2023, we will have our first general intelligence, which is where it can create more of it.

01:30:45.000 Yeah, and I'm fully willing to be wrong, and the ways this will impact our economy and jobs is going to be crazy and interesting and, I don't know, maybe not fun to see, but... Well, look, I can already tell you, right, I can already tell you as somebody who, like, owns a business that creates and markets artistic products, like we do the cartoons for the YouTube channel, there's also clients we service, there are ways that I can see this stuff really changing our industry.

01:31:09.000 Absolutely.

01:31:10.000 You could replace all the animators.

01:31:11.000 Well, I wouldn't want to, but hypothetically, if it got to that point, I think that's a possibility for a lot of studios.

01:31:17.000 Or, you could end up... Didn't we already use Mid Journey to make Freedom Tunes?

01:31:21.000 No, we tried.

01:31:22.000 It looked very weird.

01:31:24.000 So here's the thing.

01:31:26.000 There are certain things, and I attempted to do this.

01:31:29.000 I was using Mid Journey.

01:31:30.000 What is Majorna for people who don't?

01:31:32.000 It's probably the best available AI for generating images.

01:31:32.000 Oh, sure.

01:31:38.000 They look very realistic, they are extremely compelling, and highly intricate.

01:31:43.000 And you go to their Discord, you sign up on their website, then you go to Discord, you type forward slash imagine, and then it gives you a prompt and you can type in whatever you want.

01:31:51.000 Well, and so, I was curious, I wanted to see like, you know, do a background in this animated art style, or that animated art style, and you end up with something that, you know, still looks a little wonky, still looks a little bit off, it's not perfect.

01:32:04.000 One thing I was thinking of in terms of practical application is, You know, maybe you could use something like this to just color your images in, right?

01:32:12.000 So instead of drawing on the computer then coloring, maybe you can actually go back to pencil and paper and do frame by frame and just put each image into your computer and tell the AI, hey, like, color this in, flesh it out.

01:32:21.000 There are ways you can still be very involved in the artistic process and Utilize AI potentially in the coming years, and I think that's sort of the ideal situation where you still have real artists making these things, but they're able to make something so much more visually interesting and intricate because the computer technology is assisting them.

01:32:39.000 Using it as a tool.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, well and so I've mentioned this before.

01:32:43.000 What we do at Freedom Tunes would be literally impossible without computer animation, right?

01:32:47.000 Doing a hand-drawn, like, 2-5 minute long video once a week, sometimes 3-4 times a week, it literally wouldn't be possible without computer animation.

01:32:56.000 And that also means that what I'm doing requires fewer animators than it would have required 15 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, before this stuff was common.

01:33:04.000 So, yeah, like, it might limit the number of jobs, but the people who have those jobs will probably be able to do a lot more.

01:33:10.000 It's an interesting perspective on it, with how computers also help you make the cartoons, and AI will help you do them in a different way, potentially.

01:33:17.000 And if you can please the AI, the AI will reward you, like your viewers become AI itself, and the more of the AI you can impress, the more you will be rewarded in the long run.

01:33:25.000 Interesting.

01:33:26.000 I mean, well, I was just gonna kinda add that... Her AI wife? 1.00

01:33:30.000 Well, AI wife, AI family.

01:33:32.000 Well, I mean, I was just gonna say that, you know, people might look at the situation and they say, well, you know, this guy's making several cartoons a week for his business and he's got a, you know, a talented team of employees who he's working with on this.

01:33:45.000 But, you know, if he was doing this 30 years ago, there could have been dozens or hundreds of people, many more people with jobs.

01:33:52.000 No, no, no.

01:33:53.000 If it was 30 years ago, it just wouldn't exist, right?

01:33:56.000 It wouldn't be possible.

01:33:56.000 It just wouldn't exist.

01:33:57.000 So, I think instead of seeing it as something that's going to limit job potential, it's important to also conceive of the fact that it's going to create industries.

01:34:04.000 Like, things will be possible that were not.

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01:34:21.000 Alright, I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, as a Canadian, I find it rather offensive that you think our crazy lefties don't know how to use cell phones, and yet think space lasers are just as likely.

01:34:32.000 By the way, where did you get the laser idea from?

01:34:35.000 Uh, I never said it was likely that lasers started fires.

01:34:37.000 I said it was actually practically impossible, but at least somewhat in the realm of possibilities.

01:34:42.000 And the idea that 400, well I said 140, 140 lefties all went to key locations hundreds of miles apart and then timed ignition of fires That's just ridiculous, I'm sorry.

01:34:56.000 Could have been a controlled burn.

01:34:56.000 It's not what happened.

01:34:58.000 And now they're saying there's 450 fires in Canada?

01:35:01.000 Yeah, could be.

01:35:02.000 I'm sorry, I just don't- It's cool, the satellite images, you see how they all start, or a bunch of them start around the same moment?

01:35:06.000 That's not true!

01:35:07.000 Because you're watching a time-lapse.

01:35:09.000 See, this is the other thing people did.

01:35:10.000 They took a time-lapse video of several hours, and then because the fires start within a few hours of each other, not at the same time, it looks like they all start at the same time.

01:35:19.000 That was me that brought up space lasers.

01:35:21.000 And it was that I thought it would be more likely that someone lit them with space lasers than that God itself lit the fires.

01:35:27.000 Here's the other thing about that satellite imagery showing all the smoke.

01:35:31.000 It's actually not the fire starting.

01:35:32.000 The smoke is rising straight up and you don't see it until the wind current pushes the smoke down.

01:35:37.000 Oh, okay.

01:35:38.000 So the wind could have inflamed it, and then you see it all at the same moment, because that's when the winds came through.

01:35:42.000 If the currents are not moving very fast, you won't see smoke spreading very far.

01:35:48.000 And then, when the current comes in, all the smoke moves at once, and people are like, whoa, all the fires started at once.

01:35:53.000 Ian, why is it more likely that it was started by a space laser than God?

01:35:58.000 Fires are natural, like forest fires.

01:35:59.000 They happen all the time.

01:36:00.000 And there was a major lightning storm.

01:36:02.000 They happen all the time.

01:36:03.000 Why we always gotta blame somebody.

01:36:05.000 That's what we were talking about last night.

01:36:06.000 The flood?

01:36:06.000 God did it.

01:36:07.000 Why we gotta blame that guy?

01:36:08.000 Usually it's blamed on climate change.

01:36:10.000 I was at a climate change protest today outside of the White House.

01:36:12.000 They were blaming floods and this fire in particular on climate change.

01:36:17.000 Yeah, it's pretty wild and they're so smug in their certainty that this was caused by climate change.

01:36:23.000 Let's just say, let's say man-made catastrophic climate change is happening and the world is going to end in 12 years and then 12 years from now, you know, you can say that all over again.

01:36:31.000 Let's just say that that's the case and all that's true.

01:36:34.000 Maybe one forest fire could actually not be climate change, right?

01:36:37.000 Like, but it's everything!

01:36:39.000 Change itself doesn't do things.

01:36:41.000 It's what is the thing that happened, that is a change, and then talk about the thing itself, then that could have caused it.

01:36:47.000 But change, climate change, is not like a cause.

01:36:52.000 It's interesting.

01:36:53.000 What's changing?

01:36:54.000 We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:36:54.000 Let's read some more.

01:36:56.000 He says, Tim, I also think a part that plays into the more conservative poll numbers are people like myself.

01:37:02.000 2019, I wasn't a politico, whereas today, I'm all boudy-boudy that forward-the-line stance.

01:37:08.000 Here, here.

01:37:09.000 So Gallup shows that all age groups have shifted more conservative.

01:37:14.000 The big shift, uh, I think the big shift is 30 to 44, but there is a prominent shift, 18 to 29, towards conservative to a certain degree, and now more people in the US identify as conservative than anything else.

01:37:25.000 Well, it's interesting, though, because what it means to be conservative has changed so much, right?

01:37:30.000 So, 10, 15 years ago, knowing the differences between boys and girls just made you a mentally competent adult.

01:37:38.000 And if you couldn't answer the question, what is a woman, people would assume that you weren't fit to function in society. 1.00

01:37:44.000 Nowadays, if you do know the answer to that question, you're not only conservative, you're a far-right extremist. 0.73

01:37:50.000 I just hate communists. 0.95

01:37:51.000 Yeah, you know, communism is very bad. 0.99

01:37:53.000 I hate the ideology.

01:37:55.000 Sometimes communists can be pretty cool.

01:37:57.000 Actually, that's a fair point.

01:37:58.000 I tell the story a lot.

01:37:59.000 There was a guy I met in Berkeley who had the sickle and hammer and he had books.

01:38:03.000 He was giving books out and stuff and talking to people wearing a mask and I walked up to him and I was just like, what do you think about Antifa?

01:38:09.000 And he was like, what do you mean?

01:38:10.000 And I was like, those guys over there, they're beating people.

01:38:12.000 And he's like, that's wrong, they shouldn't do that.

01:38:14.000 And I was like, I agree.

01:38:15.000 And I shook his hand.

01:38:16.000 And he was like, he's like, my ideas are about how we all live together peacefully and no one should be attacking anybody else.

01:38:21.000 And I'm like, I preferred they agreed with you!

01:38:23.000 A rare noble communist.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, I think it's not a political government.

01:38:30.000 It's not a functional government structure.

01:38:32.000 It's cool in a family.

01:38:33.000 It's a Ponzi scheme.

01:38:34.000 Well, but even that though, like, because people say that, but really, what communists are doing is they're taking behavior that's like appropriate at the family level.

01:38:41.000 And then they're saying, let's destroy the family and have the government do this instead.

01:38:45.000 What?

01:38:46.000 Yeah.

01:38:46.000 I gotta read this one.

01:38:47.000 It seemingly starts off silly, but then gets really mean, but I'm gonna read it anyway.

01:38:50.000 Mark Giadetti says, I thought Elad changed his name to John Bolton Jr.

01:38:54.000 Ian is neither a wizard or a shaman.

01:38:57.000 He is just an egotistical sophist. 0.52

01:39:00.000 I mean, you see what you are, you know?

01:39:03.000 But is it the mustache that makes people think you're like John Bolton?

01:39:07.000 Because it is a beautiful mustache.

01:39:08.000 I also say I like how Trump bombed Soleimani and stuff like that, so... John Blankenship says... Did you say those things?

01:39:16.000 And the drone strikes earlier, I don't know, should Obama have been indicted for it?

01:39:19.000 Anyway.

01:39:20.000 John Blankenship says, what if one of the bribes Biden received was the Corvette?

01:39:27.000 T-Rex Pet Shop says, has anybody else noticed that many other huge companies like Family Dollar didn't even put out their pride stuff this year?

01:39:34.000 Maybe they're scared of the backlash.

01:39:36.000 Keep up the pressure, especially on woke pet stores like PetSmart, Chewy, and Petco.

01:39:40.000 Just shop at T-Rex Pet Shop instead.

01:39:43.000 Much better options.

01:39:46.000 You know what?

01:39:48.000 We gotta tell the public square guys to just make a list of companies that have publicly said communism is not good.

01:39:55.000 It is not okay to be a communist.

01:39:56.000 Can we print those out?

01:39:58.000 It is not okay to be communist.

01:40:00.000 But a community is everything.

01:40:01.000 Communism is wrong.

01:40:04.000 If you do that, the media will report far-right extremists everywhere.

01:40:10.000 No, you know, and I'm not a shaman or a wizard either.

01:40:12.000 That's true.

01:40:13.000 Good point.

01:40:14.000 I'm just a guy.

01:40:15.000 You know, I left Miami.

01:40:17.000 I'm heading up to New York.

01:40:18.000 I don't know how inundated I'm going to be with Pride once I stroll into New York City. 0.99

01:40:24.000 When you breathe in the air, you will become gay. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Rockefeller. 0.99

01:40:28.000 All the flags are Pride flags now.

01:40:30.000 It's supposed to be the flags of the world or whatever.

01:40:31.000 You know, when I first moved to the village, it was Pride Day at the end of June.

01:40:35.000 Now they have to have 30 days.

01:40:38.000 The whole month.

01:40:38.000 And it seems like it's every month.

01:40:41.000 I just want to know what people are proud for.

01:40:42.000 That's what I care about.

01:40:43.000 Here's a good one.

01:40:44.000 Jason Hutchinson says, if we're locking up former presidents, I've got a list.

01:40:48.000 Exactly!

01:40:51.000 Leon Yoder says Vivek Ramaswamy just tweeted that he would pardon Trump if elected.

01:40:55.000 This double standard of justice is going to destroy our society.

01:40:58.000 I applaud Vivek for doing this and hope all other Republican candidates follow his lead.

01:41:04.000 I think if there is a debate, it's going to be Trump and Vivek.

01:41:08.000 That's it.

01:41:09.000 Nobody else on stage will matter.

01:41:10.000 Vivek knows what people want to hear and he will tell them it.

01:41:14.000 You don't trust him?

01:41:16.000 That's all I have to say.

01:41:17.000 I mean, I don't trust anybody, but you don't believe him?

01:41:19.000 I think he has tapped in closely, and when he thinks he could say something to help advance his space in, like, the MAGA subcategory that I think he's going after, then he goes for it.

01:41:29.000 But I disagree in the sense that I do think he knows what people want to hear, but I don't think that's his motivation.

01:41:35.000 He sat down with me and he said there should be some kind of civic requirement for voting, and I'm like, that's a bold thing to say, because that's like, that causes damage politically among younger voters.

01:41:44.000 He was like, we gotta do it.

01:41:45.000 Something cynical about me just sees him as an opportunist.

01:41:48.000 I don't know why.

01:41:49.000 He is mentally agile.

01:41:50.000 He'll change his thoughts and views.

01:41:52.000 He was a CEO, he did a lot of business stuff, and then he wrote a book about being anti-woke and everything.

01:41:56.000 And the reason why, they came to him and said, you need to put up a picture on your Instagram or whatever with the black square because of George Floyd, and he was like, oh, okay, sure, I guess.

01:42:04.000 Then they came to him and they said, no, we want you to write a statement where the company supports this.

01:42:08.000 And he was like, oh, all right, I guess.

01:42:10.000 And then he wrote something where he said, I hope this country can heal and come together and we stop fighting.

01:42:14.000 And they came to him and said, that wasn't good enough.

01:42:16.000 You need to do better or else.

01:42:18.000 And he was like, I don't know what you want me to do.

01:42:20.000 Then he started getting attacked by woke people.

01:42:22.000 Then his friend started calling him out, saying he was a fascist or something.

01:42:25.000 Then people actually resigned.

01:42:26.000 And I think he got so angry that a fire lit like within him.

01:42:30.000 And he was like, I will destroy you. 0.99

01:42:32.000 And I think he is deeply, deeply angry at these people for being so crazy. 0.98

01:42:37.000 But I think he's a calm, strategic, collected guy.

01:42:40.000 So he's not just rampaging around screaming, he's like, straightening his tie, putting his suit on, and being like, you messed with the wrong guy.

01:42:47.000 I think it's commendable that he was willing to fight back, but the fact that he's running for president, he's not doing it as a serious way to win, he's doing it as a way to up his public profile, in my opinion.

01:42:56.000 I don't think he thinks he's a serious candidate.

01:42:58.000 And if he did want to win something, he'd run for lower office first.

01:43:01.000 In my opinion, because a lot of people run just for the press, and I think he's kind of like a right-wing version of Yang in this primary season.

01:43:08.000 I think he's running to put ESG on the debate stage.

01:43:11.000 I think... I told him this, I was like, I don't think you're gonna win.

01:43:15.000 I would support you.

01:43:16.000 I think he hits the nail on the head with so many of these issues.

01:43:20.000 He's sitting here and he's just like...

01:43:21.000 Like, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but I think about it.

01:43:24.000 We gotta have some kind of standard, civic standard for voting.

01:43:27.000 People just can't be told anybody can vote.

01:43:29.000 And then he came out and said, 18 to 26 has to pass a civics test.

01:43:33.000 Which, like, triggered all these Gen Z people, and I'm like, that's not... You don't say those things.

01:43:37.000 I respect that he said that.

01:43:38.000 I think...

01:43:39.000 I don't think he expects to win.

01:43:41.000 You know, maybe it's unfair to say, maybe he really is trying, but I think he's a smart guy who knows the best he can do is get on stage and say to the world, ESG is destroying us.

01:43:51.000 We must stop it.

01:43:53.000 And we'll see, maybe he gets a cabinet position.

01:43:53.000 Absolutely.

01:43:55.000 We'll see.

01:43:56.000 Or not.

01:43:56.000 I mean, if the best case scenario is he goes on the debate stage and says, no more ESG, I'll take it.

01:44:01.000 Getting back to tonight, what the Republicans should do, because when Bill Clinton was impeached in 92, he had a rally in the Rose Garden with all Democrats and his supporters.

01:44:12.000 Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans rallied behind Trump tonight?

01:44:16.000 They never do, on the Republican-Conservative side.

01:44:18.000 They never rally on each other.

01:44:20.000 Well, Vivek said he'll party Trump, so at least he did.

01:44:22.000 I respect it.

01:44:24.000 Iggy the Incubus says, speaking of corrupt presidents, I recommend Razorfist's video, Abraham Lincoln, American Dictator.

01:44:31.000 Oh, Abraham Lincoln's got a lot of bad stuff under his belt.

01:44:34.000 The suspension of habeas corpus and the corridor stretching from the South up to Pennsylvania.

01:44:40.000 Through Maryland.

01:44:41.000 What did they do?

01:44:42.000 They went and arrested a bunch of the Maryland state legislature because they were sympathetic to the South.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, some nasty stuff.

01:44:47.000 Geez.

01:44:49.000 You should indict him too.

01:44:51.000 Dig up his corpse like they did with that Pope.

01:44:55.000 Here's the moral challenge for classical liberals.

01:44:58.000 The classical liberal position, the deontological position, is that Abraham Lincoln did wrong.

01:45:03.000 The utilitarian and the moralist position is slavery needed to be stopped and preserving this country was a good thing. 0.83

01:45:11.000 The outcome was undeniably good in a lot of ways.

01:45:14.000 I don't think the outcome after the Civil War was universally good.

01:45:18.000 I mean, Sherman's march to the sea was horrifying and monstrous, and reconstruction was disastrous too, but slavery was just so much worse.

01:45:30.000 So it's a tough question.

01:45:32.000 Do you think Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant?

01:45:34.000 I think there's a lot of bad things he did.

01:45:36.000 I think unquestionably bad things.

01:45:37.000 But the outcome, man, I am not in my current present life a utilitarian.

01:45:44.000 The ends don't justify the means.

01:45:45.000 But then you look back at the bad things Abraham Lincoln did and the end result being the abolition of slavery and the 14th amendment and things that have genuinely protected people and expanded civil rights.

01:45:54.000 It's like, he was certainly tyrannical.

01:45:55.000 Tyrants aren't always bad.

01:45:57.000 You have good tyrants as well.

01:45:58.000 A tyrant just means that it's an absolute ruler that's unrestrained by law or constitution.

01:46:02.000 Is that true?

01:46:03.000 I thought that tyranny is basically just what you call it when a kingdom goes bad.

01:46:07.000 Like, tyrant means a bad king in the same way that oligarchy means a bad aristocracy and democracy means a non-populist world.

01:46:14.000 I thought just how the terms are classically defined.

01:46:17.000 The guy that put Athens on the map was a tyrant.

01:46:19.000 He walked into the city and was like, I have Athena with me, bow to me, and they all did.

01:46:23.000 And then he turned Athens into the greatest trade hub on earth and he was known as this really great ruler, very benevolent.

01:46:28.000 Interesting.

01:46:29.000 So I remember, and again, this is what I learned in school and I went to public schools, I'll tell you with a grain of salt, but what we learned was that these terms were basically like tyranny and oligarchy and actually even democracy were originally pejoratives to refer to different systems when they went wrong.

01:46:47.000 Sounds like liberal indoctrination.

01:46:48.000 Yeah, tyranny is what you call it when a king becomes bad.

01:46:51.000 And then, like, oligarchy is what you call it when an aristocracy goes wrong.

01:46:56.000 I guess the case study is Abe Lincoln.

01:46:58.000 Like, he was a tyrant, but he did good.

01:47:01.000 You could argue he did good anyway.

01:47:02.000 You could argue that he did some good, but then you could also argue he could have done that good without the tyranny.

01:47:08.000 Arguably, any wartime president is a tyrant.

01:47:11.000 In any political system.

01:47:12.000 So, if that's where we're kind of going with it, then it's... That's a really good point I bring up.

01:47:17.000 We like to talk about all these great civil liberties, we talk about classical liberalism, and I'm like, all those things disappear the moment a bomb drops.

01:47:25.000 Because ain't nobody is going to be like, you're allowed to say all of these things.

01:47:28.000 They're going to be like, my children are in danger.

01:47:30.000 Get out of my way.

01:47:31.000 That's just it.

01:47:33.000 Survival becomes everything.

01:47:35.000 All right, what do we got?

01:47:35.000 Tyler Brayton says, even in prison, Trump can still run for president.

01:47:39.000 If he wins, he can pardon himself.

01:47:41.000 Yes.

01:47:41.000 Wouldn't that be hilarious if that's what actually happens?

01:47:45.000 He's in federal prison, wins, and then he's like, give me the papers, signs it, and they open the door.

01:47:49.000 That'd be so weird.

01:47:52.000 Where we at?

01:47:54.000 Thomas TJG says politicians, bureaucracy, military and agencies are corrupt because we never held them accountable.

01:48:01.000 If you break the law at any level, you should be held to two times the punishment because they know better.

01:48:06.000 I agree.

01:48:07.000 If you work in government and break the law, there should be special penalties.

01:48:11.000 I think that's effectively how it works for people in the military because you have military and civilian criminal procedures.

01:48:19.000 I'm pretty sure I could be wrong.

01:48:20.000 Oh yeah, like a military tribunal?

01:48:22.000 Yeah, like, if you're in the army, and then you go off base and, like, rob a liquor store, you get military court and you get civilian court.

01:48:28.000 Oof.

01:48:29.000 So it's, like, double.

01:48:30.000 So don't do that.

01:48:31.000 Right, don't commit crimes.

01:48:32.000 Unless the crimes are really, really horrible, like what the Nazis made. 0.88

01:48:37.000 Uh, illegal.

01:48:39.000 Then you're supposed to commit a crime against the Nazi regime. 0.55

01:48:43.000 You're saying stop evil people.

01:48:44.000 Yeah, law is not equated to freedom.

01:48:46.000 I was like, Ian, wait, what?

01:48:48.000 Thanks for letting me explain myself.

01:48:50.000 I will triple down on that.

01:48:53.000 There are other shows where people would have jumped on you before you could finish?

01:48:56.000 There have been way too many instances in history where people made something illegal that was good or made something illegal that was evil, you know?

01:49:03.000 Helping Anne Frank was illegal.

01:49:05.000 Yes.

01:49:05.000 You should break the law to help Anne Frank.

01:49:07.000 Yes.

01:49:07.000 In that instance, yes.

01:49:08.000 That is my opinion.

01:49:09.000 That was what the point you were trying to make was.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, the law is not morality.

01:49:14.000 Where we at?

01:49:15.000 Ryan Grisaf says, someone please clean the microphone filters after this stream.

01:49:19.000 It's bugging me.

01:49:20.000 Amen, brother.

01:49:21.000 I got dust for days.

01:49:23.000 I got like two years worth of dust on this one.

01:49:24.000 Where's that lint roller?

01:49:25.000 It's in there.

01:49:26.000 I think these need to be opened up and cleaned once every couple years or something.

01:49:30.000 We just buy new heads.

01:49:32.000 We'll just take this, uh... Thanks.

01:49:34.000 This thing right here and... Some ASMR.

01:49:36.000 Look at that.

01:49:37.000 There you go.

01:49:42.000 Thanks, man.

01:49:44.000 I'll do it once we're muted after the show's over.

01:49:47.000 And now I gotta throw this thing away.

01:49:50.000 ASMR rubbing the... Alright, let's get back to reading stuff.

01:49:56.000 Holy Crappy Died says, Here in Missouri, we just banned child sex changes and ended state-funded adult sex changes.

01:50:02.000 We also made it so school children must play on sports teams that match the sex on their birth certificate.

01:50:09.000 Otherwise, schools can potentially lose their funding.

01:50:12.000 Very interesting.

01:50:13.000 The birth certificate stuff, there's still a lot of challenges that we have to overcome.

01:50:16.000 As it relates to all that, we haven't solved it, but I do believe there's a lot of good strides being made.

01:50:20.000 Good, uh, good changes are coming.

01:50:23.000 Alright.

01:50:24.000 Dreg TK says, please help.

01:50:26.000 Great Texas teacher was in a car wreck.

01:50:28.000 While in the hospital, their apartment was robbed.

01:50:30.000 Wanted to get them some help.

01:50:31.000 Love you, cast crew.

01:50:33.000 Thanks.

01:50:34.000 But who is the teacher?

01:50:35.000 We have no information, sir.

01:50:37.000 I don't know.

01:50:37.000 How do we help?

01:50:39.000 Alright, well.

01:50:41.000 Where are we at?

01:50:42.000 Where are we at?

01:50:42.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:50:45.000 Mr. Big, Mr. BG, sorry, says, These people will put Trump in prison.

01:50:49.000 He is acting like this is still a CNN fake news game, and he'll just be impeached, but nothing will happen.

01:50:55.000 They are communists.

01:50:56.000 This indictment removes him from the ballot in multiple states.

01:50:59.000 Does it really?

01:51:01.000 Someone look that up.

01:51:02.000 Does being indicted remove you from the ballot in multiple states?

01:51:06.000 This is the game they are playing.

01:51:08.000 People, people will have to write them in.

01:51:10.000 But a lot of people will just check DeSantis.

01:51:13.000 You know?

01:51:14.000 And maybe the goal is to get him off the ballots in the primaries that DeSantis wins.

01:51:19.000 That's what matters more than the general.

01:51:20.000 A blue state's gonna vote blue.

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:24.000 No says No DeSantis.

01:51:26.000 First he says he won't run against Trump, then the man sits by and says he won't intervene if Trump is indicted, then the man signs HB 269, then launches his campaign with minus 5 to Charisma, then he does this AI BS.

01:51:38.000 A lot of bad stuff.

01:51:40.000 A lot of bad stuff.

01:51:41.000 Disappointing.

01:51:42.000 Very disappointing.

01:51:45.000 Bublius says, I think the indictment is evidence they want Trump to be the nominee.

01:51:49.000 Do they think they can beat him in 2024?

01:51:52.000 They've said it on The View.

01:51:53.000 On The View, they were like, we want Trump to be the nominee.

01:51:55.000 We don't want DeSantis to win.

01:51:57.000 They think Trump will lose.

01:51:58.000 They said that in 2016, though.

01:52:00.000 Right.

01:52:00.000 And they're wrong now because what helped them in 2020 was COVID.

01:52:03.000 Lockdowns.

01:52:03.000 And that was Trump's fault.

01:52:04.000 A lot of it was.

01:52:05.000 Not all of it, but a lot of it was.

01:52:07.000 And people are like, what was he supposed to do about Fauci?

01:52:09.000 He couldn't fire Fauci.

01:52:10.000 Bureaucracy is like, he could have sidelined him easily.

01:52:13.000 He could have, he could have assigned him to go work somewhere nonsensical.

01:52:16.000 Didn't need to be at every press conference on camera because I just told him to go chill in the closet somewhere.

01:52:21.000 Yep.

01:52:22.000 He could have said, I need you to fill out these forms down in the basement.

01:52:25.000 Oh, we're doing a press conference.

01:52:26.000 Come later.

01:52:26.000 Fauci, I don't want you on any camera, any public facing position.

01:52:31.000 Stick in your lab and stay there.

01:52:33.000 But...

01:52:34.000 Him and Deborah Birx were just at every presser.

01:52:37.000 Instead, he hugged him and kissed him on the nose.

01:52:39.000 Smokey Bone says, forget Trump and DeSantis, Tim Scott is the best we've got.

01:52:43.000 Tim Scott actually is pretty awesome, but he doesn't reach that level, I'm not sure.

01:52:48.000 Although, a Trump-Scott ticket?

01:52:50.000 What if Scott's the VP?

01:52:51.000 I think that'd be pretty cool, actually.

01:52:53.000 I just saw Tim Scott on The View.

01:52:54.000 It was amazing.

01:52:56.000 Yeah, I thought so, too.

01:52:57.000 It was absolutely amazing.

01:52:57.000 That dude is fantastic.

01:52:59.000 So, what do you think about Tim Scott?

01:53:00.000 I think he's a calming presence for the president.

01:53:02.000 Right.

01:53:03.000 He needs it.

01:53:04.000 Was Tim Scott the guy who wrote the op-ed in the New York Times about needing to send in the guards?

01:53:09.000 No.

01:53:09.000 No, that wasn't him.

01:53:10.000 That was Cotton.

01:53:11.000 Cotton, never mind.

01:53:12.000 Yeah.

01:53:13.000 Tim Scott is where?

01:53:14.000 South Carolina?

01:53:14.000 South Carolina.

01:53:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:16.000 He's great.

01:53:16.000 Yeah.

01:53:16.000 Yeah, he's good.

01:53:17.000 He's good.

01:53:18.000 He's a good dude.

01:53:18.000 And he went on The View and he talked about, he nailed it.

01:53:21.000 He said, you guys are telling these young black kids that they can't succeed. 0.62

01:53:25.000 That, unless they're the exception to the rule.

01:53:28.000 He's like, no, you can't say, you can't tell these kids, you gotta tell them to work hard and they can be successful.

01:53:32.000 He's completely right.

01:53:33.000 And then they kept saying, you're the exception, you're the exception.

01:53:35.000 He's like, what do you mean?

01:53:36.000 Like, I worked hard!

01:53:37.000 You're telling him he doesn't deserve to be there.

01:53:41.000 Exactly, because what you're saying to a person in that situation is, you just got lucky.

01:53:44.000 Not like you worked really hard, not you earned this, you just got lucky.

01:53:49.000 Yeah, that's not cool, man. 0.54

01:53:51.000 Was he appointed to the Senate by Nikki Haley because he was black?

01:53:54.000 Or was he appointed because he was awesome?

01:53:58.000 I think he's right.

01:53:58.000 I guess Nikki could answer that question.

01:54:00.000 I think he's a good dude.

01:54:01.000 He seemed pretty cool.

01:54:02.000 I think it would be a great ticket.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, Trump, Trump Scott.

01:54:06.000 He'd be a good dude.

01:54:07.000 Some people have mentioned that's why he's fairly neutral when he's announcing.

01:54:09.000 He's getting name recognition and then might, you know, go that route.

01:54:13.000 But that'd be good.

01:54:13.000 Two first names.

01:54:15.000 I like it.

01:54:16.000 Oh, three first names.

01:54:16.000 Timothy, Eugene, Scott.

01:54:18.000 Whoa.

01:54:18.000 I'm big on, I'm bullish on people with multiple first names.

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:23.000 Just to answer you, Tim, it doesn't disqualify him.

01:54:25.000 According to Time, if he's indicted, it doesn't disqualify him from running for the election.

01:54:29.000 Just so you know.

01:54:30.000 But does it remove his name from the state's entry to disqualify him?

01:54:32.000 I couldn't see that.

01:54:33.000 Couldn't find it.

01:54:33.000 Yeah, what they said was it removes his name from the ballots.

01:54:35.000 Right, couldn't find that.

01:54:37.000 And if the Republicans, let's say, they got 5, 8% more African American vote, the Democratic Party's toast. 0.75

01:54:42.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:54:43.000 Toast.

01:54:44.000 And we saw this a couple years ago, I think it was 2019, they said that black men are shifting towards the Republican Party.

01:54:50.000 They are, yeah.

01:54:51.000 And you see those viral videos where there's like young black men talking about how Trump's the guy.

01:54:56.000 Right.

01:54:57.000 And he's got street cred.

01:54:59.000 They like him, he's a tough guy.

01:55:02.000 Beautiful Bacon says Trump literally is a DJ.

01:55:04.000 His name is DJ Trump.

01:55:06.000 He was merely living up to his namesake.

01:55:08.000 Oh my god.

01:55:09.000 Dude, you gotta make that, Seamus.

01:55:10.000 That's hilarious.

01:55:10.000 I think we do have to do DJ Trump.

01:55:13.000 DJ Trump in the house!

01:55:14.000 And Trump Jr.

01:55:15.000 is DJ Trump, too.

01:55:16.000 That literally has to be a slogan, DJ Trump in the house, but it's the White House.

01:55:20.000 Picture that.

01:55:20.000 That sounds like a sitcom.

01:55:23.000 That would be a really good show.

01:55:24.000 It's about a guy who's a DJ and then he has to move into the White House because he got beat up in his neighborhood back in Washington State.

01:55:32.000 Is this just the Fresh Prince?

01:55:35.000 But Trump.

01:55:36.000 And Trump was done with South Florida, now he has to go back on Tuesday to Miami.

01:55:41.000 Sergeant Buck says it wouldn't shock me if whoever edited that vid had no idea how to recognize an AI-generated image and just typed Trump and Fauci into Google Images.

01:55:49.000 That's another possibility, too.

01:55:50.000 That's why I'm like, when the people immediately come out and they're like, we're allowed to do it because Trump posted a rhinoceros, they could have been like, it was an error.

01:55:58.000 You know, we googled the image and just put him in.

01:56:02.000 You know what?

01:56:02.000 I'm gonna look up.

01:56:02.000 That's incompetent then.

01:56:03.000 That's incompetent then.

01:56:04.000 Better than malicious?

01:56:05.000 Yeah, I guess so, but still very bad.

01:56:08.000 I bet they're gonna try to ignore it.

01:56:09.000 I'm gonna look up.

01:56:09.000 That's funny.

01:56:10.000 I don't think you could just... Deepfake DeSantis!

01:56:12.000 That's what I'm calling him from now on.

01:56:14.000 Deepfake DeSantis.

01:56:16.000 Trump should steal that from you.

01:56:18.000 Old Deepfake DeSantis over here.

01:56:19.000 Deepfake DeSantis.

01:56:23.000 I'm looking at pictures of Trump and Fauci.

01:56:24.000 There's some really good ones.

01:56:25.000 The funny thing was Trump's birthday's on Wednesday.

01:56:27.000 He had a big fundraising event on Tuesday the 13th at Bedminster, and now he has to go to Miami for this indictment.

01:56:36.000 Oh, next Wednesday's his birthday?

01:56:38.000 Next Wednesday's his birthday.

01:56:38.000 Tuesday was a big event in Bedminster for the president for his birthday, but Wednesday now he's being summoned to turn himself in.

01:56:47.000 I wonder if they're planning on announcing it on his birthday.

01:56:49.000 This all seems so personal.

01:56:51.000 Yeah.

01:56:52.000 Scott Jeffress says, what's your opinion on the pic of DeSantis drinking with young girls?

01:56:55.000 Was that fake?

01:56:56.000 Was it shared by the Trump camp?

01:56:58.000 I'm not simping for Ron, I'm all in for Trump 24, just asking your opinion.

01:57:01.000 I think when that came out, we criticized Trump for doing it.

01:57:04.000 We like all groaned and rolled our eyes and said it was gross or something.

01:57:07.000 And then we were just like, you shouldn't do that stuff. 1.00

01:57:09.000 But Trump is kind of a dick. 1.00

01:57:10.000 Like, we know this. 1.00

01:57:12.000 He's like, he's crass in that way. 0.98

01:57:14.000 And someone posting a photo That is either like, not real, or a meme, or insulting, and then Trump reposting it being like, haha, you're dumb, is very, very different from a campaign ad that uses fake images. 0.98

01:57:26.000 They're bad, don't get me wrong. 0.97

01:57:28.000 I'm not going to defend Trump for doing that.

01:57:30.000 We groaned and we rolled our eyes, but like, this is a whole new level.

01:57:33.000 Using deep fake images to smear someone in a political attack ad. 0.72

01:57:37.000 Crazy.

01:57:38.000 So it was DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls.

01:57:44.000 Just to be clear of what the photo was.

01:57:47.000 It was what?

01:57:48.000 It was Ron DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls.

01:57:52.000 But is it real?

01:57:52.000 Was it?

01:57:53.000 It was real.

01:57:54.000 According to Daily Mail.

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:56.000 Did they say he would never do such a thing?

01:57:59.000 Real pic.

01:58:00.000 We might need to read through it.

01:58:01.000 Trump posts photo of Ron DeSantis as a teacher allegedly partying with high school girls.

01:58:05.000 Yeah.

01:58:05.000 So the women could be college girls, we don't know that.

01:58:07.000 Which could be good, yeah.

01:58:07.000 Was he single then?

01:58:10.000 Um, yeah, but I guess what would be creepy is a teacher with the high school, but we need a... I need to dig deeper, I don't want to say the wrong thing about... Gnarly Marley says, I mentioned wanting coverage of the AI photo story in a Daily Wire comment earlier and the backlash was extreme.

01:58:24.000 Some don't care, some don't believe it or made excuses, some just bashed you as a Democrat, I was rather shocked.

01:58:30.000 Yeah, it's culty.

01:58:32.000 Very culty.

01:58:34.000 It's weird how insanely culty it is.

01:58:36.000 And it's really off-putting.

01:58:39.000 Let's grab some more superchats. 0.99

01:58:40.000 Grab it by the balls. 0.96

01:58:43.000 Just to follow up on that, I'm sorry, it says, neither post contains evidence that the girls pictured were underage or establishes that anyone photographed was illegally consuming alcohol. 0.98

01:58:51.000 Daily Mail has not been able to verify the people in the photo.

01:58:56.000 Rundell Schmidt says, Trump is not pro-choice, Seamus.

01:58:58.000 He was the first president to ever speak at the Pro-Life March.

01:59:01.000 Thank you guys for doing great work.

01:59:03.000 Tim, thanks for helping people financially.

01:59:05.000 No, I so Trump's and this is part of the thing is a lot was asking this earlier like how could you pick Trump and you know over to Santa's and like my broader point is when it comes time to vote in the primaries I'm going to vote for who's most pro-life at that time I hope that that is Trump because I think he's a stronger candidate overall but what I will say is when he He did achieve many wonderful things for the pro-life movement, but when he does things like attack DeSantis for the six-week abortion ban and call it cruel, it is very off-putting for me.

01:59:36.000 The other side of that is Trump does just kind of say things.

01:59:39.000 I think that's a very responsible thing to say.

01:59:41.000 I wish he didn't say it.

01:59:42.000 I hope he doesn't believe it.

01:59:44.000 We'll see how his positions end up shaking out as the campaign goes on.

01:59:47.000 I hope he adopts a hardcore pro-life position.

01:59:50.000 I absolutely hope he's not You know, gonna stick with this or, like, officially adopt this position that a six-week abortion ban is bad.

01:59:58.000 When you say you vote for the pro-life candidate, do you mean because you like them both, you're gonna go for the one?

02:00:03.000 Or if there's someone, just a snake, that was pro-life and a really good person who was more for abor- or, like, not pro-life?

02:00:10.000 Why would you trust a snake's actually pro-life?

02:00:12.000 Like, if it was just someone who's like, we want to go to war in the Middle East, we want to conquer, we want to destroy, but I'm in a super pro-life, would you go for that guy over...?

02:00:19.000 If it's a choice between a war with the Middle East and a war with the unborn, I say neither, but I'm gonna vote for the most pro-life possible candidate.

02:00:26.000 Even if they're like a darkly evil person? 0.95

02:00:28.000 I think it's an interesting question, but like, overall, my principle is pro-life.

02:00:32.000 Yeah, that is the most important issue to me.

02:00:33.000 The main thing that we had to get done, which Trump did, because of the judges, it's back in the States.

02:00:37.000 Yeah, no, exactly, and so that's what I'm saying.

02:00:39.000 You couldn't ask for more.

02:00:40.000 I think Trump, exactly, and so I think, and this is why I praise Trump for that, I think that there were massive pro-life victories that happened because of Trump, because of his appointments.

02:00:48.000 I think there's a good argument to be made that he was the most pro-life president we've ever had.

02:00:52.000 I mean, I'm definitely not dogging on him overall.

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