Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Call of Duty AXES NICKMERCS For Saying PROTECT KIDS, COD BOYCOTT BEGINS w-Riley Moore

00:00:00.000 Well, there certainly is a lot of political news.

00:00:23.000 Donald Trump has been indicted on 37 counts.

00:00:26.000 It's insane, including espionage charges.

00:00:30.000 I think we have that story, but we do have a very big culture war story.

00:00:33.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the gamers have joined the culture war!

00:00:37.000 I guess, because technically they started it, but...

00:00:40.000 They're back?

00:00:42.000 I guess it's younger generation of gamers?

00:00:43.000 This is big news as far as I'm concerned.

00:00:45.000 Call of Duty has pulled, Activision has pulled, a streamer named Nick Merckx who has millions of subscribers because he tweeted, leave the little kids alone.

00:00:55.000 He said he stands by what he said.

00:00:59.000 He appreciates everybody who has his back.

00:01:01.000 They pulled him and said, yeah, well, we're going to remove your stuff because we celebrate pride here.

00:01:05.000 Then another very big streamer, DrDisRespect, came out and said, no dice, sided with Nick Merckx.

00:01:12.000 What we are seeing here, while it may have always been gamers who are very much opposed to the creepy woke stuff, we are seeing now high-profile personalities join in, call for boycotts of these companies and these games outright on livestreams to massive waves of younger people.

00:01:28.000 Because regular people are rising up and they're saying no more to this.

00:01:31.000 So when you get a guy, and you know what they're saying?

00:01:33.000 They're saying that Nick Merckx's dad instincts kicked in because he just had a kid, and all of a sudden it's like, now he gets it.

00:01:39.000 This is what's starting to happen.

00:01:40.000 As the younger people are getting a little bit older and they're realizing what woke people are doing in their name, they're starting to say no.

00:01:47.000 So not only are we seeing this major move in terms of a call for a boycott on a major video game, Target has reportedly lost $15 billion off their market cap.

00:01:57.000 Now, we've got CNN and the likes of other companies, other media outlets saying, no, no, no, no, it's nothing to do with the boycott, despite the fact that Walmart isn't suffering.

00:02:04.000 Their stock seems to be just fine.

00:02:06.000 So we're going to talk about this and more, and obviously we'll talk a bit about the political stuff.

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00:02:53.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Riley Moore.

00:02:57.000 Hey Tim, thanks for having me back on.

00:02:59.000 This is awesome.

00:02:59.000 Absolutely, who are you?

00:03:01.000 I'm the State Treasurer of West Virginia.

00:03:03.000 I'm also the Congressional Candidate for the 2nd Congressional District in West Virginia.

00:03:08.000 Right on, good to have you back.

00:03:09.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:03:10.000 We got Elad Eliyahu hanging out again.

00:03:11.000 Hey, what's up everybody?

00:03:12.000 Riley, thanks so much for coming on.

00:03:13.000 We have, I'm sure, a great show planned with you.

00:03:16.000 My name's Elad Eliyahu.

00:03:17.000 I'm a reporter here at TimCast News.

00:03:19.000 Check out my work and other journalists who work here's work on Twitter at TimCastNews.

00:03:25.000 Hello, everybody!

00:03:26.000 I am Phil Abonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:03:32.000 And I'm Ian Crossland, number four.

00:03:35.000 I was on The Culture War today, if you guys haven't seen that yet, with Zach Voorhees.

00:03:38.000 It was epic.

00:03:39.000 Tim, Zach, and I talked about AI for like two hours.

00:03:41.000 It got crazier and crazier as the conversation went on.

00:03:43.000 Highly recommend checking that out on YouTube at Tim Pool's The Culture War.

00:03:47.000 It was very fun.

00:03:48.000 YouTube.com slash TimCast.

00:03:49.000 There it is!

00:03:51.000 And to my right, this beautiful man.

00:03:53.000 Yes.

00:03:53.000 Hey, what's up?

00:03:55.000 My name is Kellen.

00:03:56.000 I see a lot of times people are like, hey, who is this?

00:03:58.000 Who's this fake Serge?

00:03:59.000 Well, I work behind the scenes most of the week, but on Fridays, I do live switching.

00:04:04.000 Fake Serge, or you know, whatever they want.

00:04:07.000 They've got all kinds of nicknames.

00:04:09.000 But yeah, so that's me.

00:04:10.000 It's good to be hanging out with you guys.

00:04:12.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:04:14.000 From IGN.com, Activision pulls FaZe Clan streamer Nick Murk's skin from Call of Duty following anti-LGBTQ plus tweet.

00:04:24.000 Quote, we are focused on celebrating pride with our employees and our community.

00:04:28.000 So first, who is this guy, FaZe?

00:04:30.000 I believe I have his YouTube right here.

00:04:33.000 He's a streamer, plays video games, he's got 4 million subscribers.

00:04:36.000 And what exactly did he say that got his skin pulled from this game?

00:04:40.000 He said, they should leave little children alone.

00:04:44.000 That's the real issue.

00:04:46.000 Leave them kids alone. 0.88

00:04:47.000 So, uh, there's a great and powerful revelation in this tweet and what's happening.

00:04:53.000 In response, Activision tweeted this, a call of duty on Twitter, which is an Activision

00:04:57.000 game.

00:04:58.000 Charlie Intel says, it appears Activision has removed the Nick Merckx bundle from the

00:05:03.000 Warzone and Modern Warfare 2 store this evening.

00:05:06.000 Activision has not commented on why it has been removed, but the removal of his bundle

00:05:10.000 comes a day after Nick Merckx' recent comments about the LGBT plus community.

00:05:14.000 Call of Duty says, Due to recent events, we have removed the Nick Merck's Operator Bundle from the Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone store.

00:05:21.000 We are focused on celebrating pride with our employees and our community.

00:05:24.000 This is actually pretty amazing.

00:05:27.000 Let me get right to it.

00:05:29.000 Nick Merckx did not say anything anti-LGBTQ.

00:05:34.000 He said they should leave little children alone.

00:05:37.000 That's the real issue.

00:05:37.000 Let's break this down.

00:05:38.000 Let's dissect what this prominent streamer with millions of followers on Twitter and millions on YouTube said.

00:05:44.000 Leave kids alone.

00:05:46.000 If a leftist showed up to a school where they were protesting, parents were protesting these books, an Antifa person said, leave the kids alone.

00:05:58.000 Is that anti- or pro-LGBTQ?

00:06:01.000 It's very vague.

00:06:03.000 If a leftist said, leave kids alone, they would assume it was a leftist statement and say, the right is targeting kids.

00:06:09.000 Nick Merckx didn't say anything specific other than leave kids alone.

00:06:13.000 It could have been left or right wing.

00:06:15.000 So there's something else you can see here.

00:06:16.000 The fact that simply by saying leave kids alone, the left got triggered, angry, and pulled him from this game shows they actually understand that they are targeting children with something negative.

00:06:30.000 What is this?

00:06:31.000 It's a response.

00:06:32.000 What's it in response to?

00:06:34.000 So, this Puckett account says, this happened four blocks from my Overwatch League apartment.

00:06:39.000 Americans are in a sad place right now.

00:06:42.000 Let people love who they love and live your own life.

00:06:45.000 And it was in response to the video of the parents fighting with far-leftist activists.

00:06:50.000 You can see the sign here, protect trans kids.

00:06:52.000 He says they should leave the little children alone, that's the real issue.

00:06:55.000 Now hold on.

00:06:56.000 Why is it that the immediate assumption was that this was a right-wing or anti-LGBTQ post?

00:07:02.000 I mean, the sign in the video says protect trans kids.

00:07:05.000 Wouldn't his statement be in agreement with what that sign says?

00:07:08.000 Protect the kids.

00:07:09.000 Yeah, they should leave those kids alone.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, I mean, they've totally exposed themselves on this, right?

00:07:13.000 And the funny thing is...

00:07:16.000 The hypocritical thing is this is supposed to be like the party of choice.

00:07:21.000 And that's really what this battle is about, is that parents want to be able to have the choice to have their kids opt out of the Pride Month educational program that they have mandated every child has to go through.

00:07:38.000 Now, a long time ago, when I was in school, you could opt in or opt out of sex education.

00:07:44.000 No, I'm sure as it relates to heterosexual education, I'm sure that's still the case. 0.99

00:07:50.000 But apparently in Pride Month, there's no opt-out.

00:07:54.000 Like, these are the guys of choice, right?

00:07:56.000 Well, no, they're not, actually.

00:07:58.000 This is about compulsion, it's about control, and I think it's about brainwashing the young people in this country.

00:08:04.000 Yes.

00:08:05.000 I get that.

00:08:05.000 I saw a video of them dancing through the hallways of the elementary school, like the little kids, and they were like a rainbow.

00:08:11.000 They were like dancing through a rainbow portal or something.

00:08:14.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:08:15.000 I thought about it when I was six and seven in like first and second grade, and like what I would have felt going into that would have been very afraid.

00:08:23.000 Maybe that sounds crude, but it would have made me nervous, because I didn't know what it was, and everyone's screaming, but it's a chance to not have to do boring schoolwork, so a lot of people are into it, but I can see how kids would be not comfortable, but not saying anything about it, because when you're seven, what the hell can you say, and who can you say it to?

00:08:43.000 And this is just one event that's happening in the Unified School District of Los Angeles.

00:08:50.000 They've now instituted, I think it's like five separate days of trans awareness, and a day of silence, and another pride month, and this and this and that. 0.79

00:09:01.000 If these people celebrated like the 4th of July, maybe perhaps like they celebrated this, we'd have a very different country, right?

00:09:09.000 I mean, it's insane.

00:09:11.000 Let me show you this.

00:09:12.000 Nick Merckx responded to the backlash saying, Friends are created in good times, but families are built

00:09:16.000 through adversity.

00:09:17.000 Appreciate all of you that have my back.

00:09:20.000 Understand my position as a new father and recognize the love I have for all.

00:09:24.000 Ain't no hate in this heart, PNL.

00:09:28.000 I mean, that's it.

00:09:29.000 I mean, it's very well said.

00:09:30.000 Look, I have three kids, right?

00:09:33.000 And no one is in control of my kids except me and my wife.

00:09:38.000 That's it.

00:09:39.000 They want control over everyone's kids.

00:09:42.000 I mean, we've seen that debate happen over and over again.

00:09:45.000 They want to have the control of shaping our child's future, their thoughts, how they view the world.

00:09:55.000 That's me.

00:09:56.000 I am in control of them.

00:09:58.000 I am their parent.

00:10:00.000 Not these teachers, not these activists, me and my wife.

00:10:04.000 The left is motivated to affect what they call cultural hegemony.

00:10:09.000 So when you have kids and you send them to what you assume are schools

00:10:14.000 that are going to teach them how to be good Americans, how to be liberals, how to be, you know, live in our

00:10:21.000 society.

00:10:22.000 When you do that, you make more capitalists.

00:10:25.000 That's what schools used to do. 1.00

00:10:27.000 Nowadays, well, and what happened was the left realized that to Break that reproduction of the society is the only way that you're gonna get to a socialist United States so they go into the schools using a free airing method and They break that hegemony by teaching children

00:10:48.000 Their morals and their, you know, moral, the way that they want society to be.

00:10:53.000 What's the Frearian method?

00:10:55.000 Paulo Freire was a Portuguese Marxist and he is the most influential in current schools.

00:11:06.000 Basically, he wants to have generative issues.

00:11:10.000 So the way that he wants to, or the way that his Method is teach children in a way that introduces political themes to them, right?

00:11:20.000 So if you're teaching math The Frearian Method figures out a way to not only teach the math lesson, or teach the math lesson, and additionally teach the political aspects, or teach political aspects.

00:11:34.000 So like how many stars are on the flag, how many stripes are on the flag?

00:11:37.000 Yeah, stuff like that, but, um, so they would, maybe they're talking about, uh, you know, maybe they're talking about how much it costs to get into, maybe they're talking about money, right, or talking about, you know, using money as an example.

00:11:51.000 They would try to direct the conversation, and this is just an example.

00:11:54.000 This is not the directed way, but they would try to say, well, maybe you're going to get everyone in the car and go to the amusement park.

00:12:03.000 Well, there's a bunch of ways that you can make that political.

00:12:05.000 First of all, you could talk about the car.

00:12:06.000 Well, does everyone get into the car?

00:12:09.000 But is that really good for the environment?

00:12:11.000 How many people are going in the car?

00:12:13.000 Is it bad for the environment to go to the amusement park?

00:12:16.000 Who's been to an amusement park?

00:12:17.000 Everybody's been?

00:12:18.000 You haven't been to an amusement park.

00:12:19.000 How come you haven't been to an amusement park?

00:12:21.000 Well, you know, your parents don't have the money?

00:12:22.000 These are all ways that you can bring up politics in what is ostensibly a math or a geography or whatever lesson.

00:12:30.000 And if you can teach kids, if you can bring up politics, they call it a generative issue.

00:12:36.000 It can generate questions.

00:12:38.000 That's all the LGBT stuff is. 1.00

00:12:40.000 When you have kids in front of a drag queen, kids are gonna ask questions. 1.00

00:12:43.000 Why is that person dressed like that?

00:12:45.000 And then you can start talking about LGBT issues.

00:12:48.000 Grooming.

00:12:49.000 Exactly.

00:12:50.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:12:51.000 That's why it's called grooming.

00:12:52.000 Because it makes it normative.

00:12:53.000 Yes, exactly.

00:12:54.000 It gives politically motivated people an opportunity to bring up leftist talking points and leftist politics.

00:13:03.000 Well, and to that point, though, part of this is, as human beings, we have what's called observable reality, right?

00:13:11.000 So, to Phil's point, I could say, Phil, I'm colorblind, but that wall looks green to me.

00:13:17.000 Phil would say, well, I can see with my vision.

00:13:20.000 That is a gray wall.

00:13:21.000 Tim would say, that's a gray wall.

00:13:23.000 As society, we can say, Objectively, in reality, that's a gray wall.

00:13:28.000 But my perceived reality, it's green.

00:13:31.000 So we're having to accept everyone's perceived reality.

00:13:37.000 If somebody says, I view myself as a woman, and we're all looking at that person saying, uh, no.

00:13:42.000 Objective reality says, no, you're not.

00:13:44.000 Observable reality says, you're not.

00:13:46.000 But we are now having to accept their perceived reality.

00:13:51.000 Do you know where that's a problem?

00:13:53.000 North Korea.

00:13:55.000 They are controlling what is objective and observed reality, right?

00:14:02.000 They are able to control what is reality and control language.

00:14:07.000 That is where we are headed on this.

00:14:10.000 That's what's happening here.

00:14:12.000 And it starts in the schools.

00:14:14.000 It's all grooming in a variety of ways, but there is overt targeting of kids with sexual grooming, but there's also ideological grooming, and it all follows exactly what you said, generative issues.

00:14:26.000 I know I explained it a lot, but just for the sake of context for anybody who hasn't heard, I'll give you a very simple version.

00:14:32.000 Modeling.

00:14:33.000 They say, do you want to be a model?

00:14:35.000 Modeling is a normal job, lots of people model, they're famous models.

00:14:38.000 The groomers, who use modeling to groom kids, will say, you're a model, it's normal, everyone does it.

00:14:43.000 Then they'll say, why don't you wear this bathing suit?

00:14:46.000 Then they'll say, why don't you take this piece of clothing off? 0.73

00:14:48.000 They're slowly inching you towards something sexual.

00:14:51.000 If you want to make the claim that you're just trying to educate kids, it would not start with books that teach the kids how to use gay dating apps.

00:14:58.000 And that's what they're doing.

00:14:59.000 There's a book called This is Gay, for those of you that don't know, a teacher in Illinois gave it to middle schoolers, and in the book there is instructions on how to use adult anonymous gay hookup apps.

00:15:10.000 Like, that is beyond just the intro level grooming.

00:15:16.000 Like, she's outright now instructing them on these behaviors.

00:15:19.000 Well, and to your point on the introduction, Target, right, where you had this huge protest over Target, they're introducing bathing suits.

00:15:27.000 Genitive issues.

00:15:28.000 Right?

00:15:28.000 Yeah.

00:15:28.000 They're introducing bathing suits where kids can tuck, right?

00:15:32.000 Well, they were adult bathing suits.

00:15:34.000 Yeah, adult bathing suits.

00:15:35.000 But, I mean, it's in a place where a family shop, right?

00:15:39.000 And then the kid's gonna say, Dad, what's tucking?

00:15:41.000 Yeah, they're gonna say, what's pride?

00:15:44.000 You know, young kids that don't, you know, the first time that they're cognizant and aware and be like, Daddy, what's pride?

00:15:50.000 Mommy, what's pride?

00:15:51.000 Right off the bat, the whole month of June has become a generative issue.

00:15:55.000 And if you don't want your kids to be exposed to that stuff at four, five, six, now you're called a bigot.

00:16:03.000 Yes.

00:16:03.000 It's unacceptable.

00:16:05.000 All the schools are doing it.

00:16:06.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 It's unacceptable.

00:16:08.000 I think conservatives, moderates, anybody who's anti-woke needs to sue the schools to get the flags removed.

00:16:15.000 Yes.

00:16:15.000 And just say it's a political flag.

00:16:18.000 It is offensive to a lot of people.

00:16:20.000 That's just reality.

00:16:21.000 You should not have offensive things.

00:16:23.000 And if the courts deem that you can have it, then start flying the flag you want to fly.

00:16:27.000 So there's that issue in Massachusetts where a kid wore a shirt that said there are two genders.

00:16:31.000 They told him to take it off.

00:16:32.000 Can't wear that shirt.

00:16:34.000 Sued over it.

00:16:35.000 The judge said, until we have a resolution, you still can't wear that shirt.

00:16:39.000 And my response is, okay, well then they shouldn't fly the pride flags.

00:16:41.000 If saying there are two genders is offensive to some, the pride flag, which appropriates God's covenant, the rainbow, should be offensive to Christians.

00:16:49.000 And that's a protected class as well, religious belief.

00:16:51.000 Therefore, it should all go.

00:16:53.000 If you can't have one, you can't have the other.

00:16:54.000 And that goes back to that observable reality of two genders. 0.98

00:16:57.000 Like, when children are born, that gender is not determined at birth.

00:17:03.000 It is observed.

00:17:04.000 We observe what that child is.

00:17:06.000 I want to jump to this next story from comicbook.com because the boycotts are getting crazier!

00:17:12.000 Dr. Disrespect boycotts Call of Duty following Nick Merckx's controversy.

00:17:16.000 They say following the call of duty has enjoyed an absurd level of success blah blah blah.

00:17:21.000 Last night Nick Merckx's skin was removed from the game etc etc we know this.

00:17:24.000 Dr. Disrespect uninstalled Call of Duty and said he won't return until they apologize or add Nick Murk's Operator Bundle back into the game.

00:17:33.000 For those that are just tuning in.

00:17:35.000 Nick Merckx, a prominent streamer with, I think like 8 million followers, no he's got more than that, he's got 6 million on Twitch, he's got 4 million on YouTube, he's got 2 million on Twitter, said, leave the little children alone.

00:17:46.000 That's it.

00:17:47.000 So they axe him from the game.

00:17:49.000 Now you've got this guy DrDisRespect who's extremely, also with millions of followers, saying, I won't play the game until they apologize.

00:17:56.000 What we are seeing is a major shift.

00:17:59.000 I don't know if Bud Light has anything to do with it, but I wonder.

00:18:02.000 If after everyone saw a 30% sales drop from Bud Light for doing this, two things happened.

00:18:09.000 People became less afraid, thinking, hey, you know what? If I speak out, I can clearly see

00:18:14.000 most people are on my side. And the other thing was opportunists thought it was popular and they

00:18:21.000 But now, real quick, now you have more prominent, high-profile people willing to boycott powerful brands over going in this direction.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, the Bud Light fiasco and boycott and success of the boycott Globally showed people globally that you have control with social media of markets and now they're emboldened and are willing to twist the market at will It can go bad as well.

00:18:47.000 I mean it can go in any direction depending on what side you're on I've always been concerned about people like organizing a mass withdrawal of money from a bank on a day We've been trying to crash the economy Bradley, I wanted to ask you on this.

00:18:58.000 I know you talk a lot about ESG.

00:19:00.000 You mentioned Target and what's going on with Activision now.

00:19:03.000 Could you explain to us what ESG is and does that play into any of this at all?

00:19:07.000 Yeah, ESG does play into this actually. 0.99

00:19:09.000 So, Anheuser-Busch, right?

00:19:12.000 Guess who one of the largest shareholders are of Anheuser-Busch?

00:19:15.000 InBev.

00:19:15.000 Blackrock?

00:19:16.000 Blackrock!

00:19:17.000 BlackRock is and Vanguard.

00:19:20.000 And so what, since they are some of the largest shareholders through the dollars that they manage in retirement funds and everything else, they have massive amounts of voting power there.

00:19:32.000 And so what they do is push initiatives like this at board meetings because they've been able to install their board of directors on those corporate boards of governance.

00:19:43.000 And that's how we get here, and that's how decisions like this get made.

00:19:47.000 In simple terms, what is ESG for people who don't understand it in plain language, and how does it affect this?

00:19:52.000 So, very short and quick, ESG, which stands for Environmental Social Governance, what it is doing, it's forcing dollars towards ideas instead of returns.

00:20:03.000 Which is the opposite of the free market.

00:20:05.000 Dollars should flow towards returns, not ideas.

00:20:09.000 And what they are doing is coercing capital towards ideas instead of returns.

00:20:15.000 And which is going to ultimately, I think, destroy the free market in this country.

00:20:19.000 You know, Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock, I noticed, with almost every public company we talk about, has about 22%.

00:20:25.000 The three companies combined, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, have about 22% of all these public companies.

00:20:30.000 22%.

00:20:31.000 22% of Microsoft, of Apple.

00:20:33.000 And it's, they never really have that much more.

00:20:34.000 They never really have that much less.

00:20:36.000 So at 22%, what kind of board power can you actually have?

00:20:38.000 Well, I mean, think about what does Elon know of Twitter, right?

00:20:41.000 I mean, isn't it like 13 percent, something like that, like controlling interest or something?

00:20:45.000 But I mean, when he ended up buying it, I think the amount of stock that it took to get there, so... Right, he owns it entirely.

00:20:53.000 He owns it entirely now, but the amount of... So 13 couldn't get him what he wanted.

00:20:57.000 So he had to buy it out.

00:20:57.000 Right.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, he had to buy it out.

00:21:00.000 But that amount of leverage that they have, like each one owning 22, 22, 22... Each one owns about 7%.

00:21:07.000 Yeah, yeah, 7%.

00:21:09.000 But these guys in totality cast 25% of every vote cast on every publicly traded company in the country.

00:21:19.000 And the assets under management that they have is larger than the GDP of the United States in a given year.

00:21:26.000 It's not just about voting, though.

00:21:29.000 Voting with 25% power doesn't sound like a whole lot.

00:21:32.000 The bigger issue is, if they have 7% of, insert company, and they go and they say, we're holding about $250 million of your company.

00:21:42.000 If you don't do this, I'm sorry, we're going to have to protect our clients by selling off all of this stock, which will cause a panic and a dump on your company.

00:21:53.000 And they're all three coordinated in their approach.

00:21:55.000 I mean, 22%, look, I mean, is a substantial amount of control given, I mean, depending on the publicly

00:22:01.000 traded company that you're talking about.

00:22:03.000 And it gives them a tremendous amount of leverage.

00:22:06.000 ExxonMobil was a great example.

00:22:08.000 BlackRock was certainly not a majority stakeholder there, but through working through proxies who they were able

00:22:15.000 to put onto the board, activist members, in 2021, they were able to put board members on there coordinating

00:22:23.000 with their other ESG woke capitalist buddies.

00:22:27.000 They put activist board members on there that moved and were successful in reducing oil production at ExxonMobil by 20% and increasing green energy production by 20%, which then, guess we could have used that oil production right about now, right?

00:22:41.000 So can you, it was three companies, right?

00:22:41.000 With gas prices.

00:22:44.000 Three firms?

00:22:45.000 Yes, State Street, Vanguard, BlackRock.

00:22:47.000 Okay, so who owns BlackRock?

00:22:49.000 Well, BlackRock is publicly traded, right?

00:22:52.000 Right, so who's got the largest stake in those companies?

00:22:55.000 Let's just say BlackRock.

00:22:56.000 Well, yeah, I mean Larry Fink's one of the top guys.

00:22:59.000 Well, do you want to know who the shareholders are?

00:23:02.000 First we have the Vanguard Group.

00:23:04.000 Next we have State Street Corp.

00:23:06.000 Then we have Bank of America.

00:23:07.000 And there's a list of others.

00:23:08.000 But I just highlight this because they own each other.

00:23:12.000 Yeah, and Larry himself owns a significant amount in there as well, who's the CEO of it.

00:23:17.000 Yes, but they all do own each other.

00:23:19.000 And so there is, you know, and look, if I'm elected to Congress, these guys got to get, in my view, they need to get broken up.

00:23:27.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:23:27.000 I'm looking at BlackRock Inc.

00:23:29.000 and its own, 5% of its own by BlackRock Fund Advisors.

00:23:33.000 Yes.

00:23:33.000 Raleigh, for a moment I wanted to follow up on this ESG stuff and kind of play the devil's advocate role because a lot of people are pushing for this.

00:23:40.000 Many people are saying that free markets aren't working for everybody across our countries nowadays and we need to start worrying about the stakeholders, i.e.

00:23:48.000 employees or workers, more than just the shareholders, like where the capital is coming from.

00:23:52.000 How would you respond to somebody who's saying this is really about helping workers Yes, stakeholder capitalism is fake.

00:23:58.000 That is not a real thing.

00:24:00.000 Stakeholder capitalism.

00:24:01.000 So when we, in West Virginia, we did a restricted financial institution list for companies that were boycotting the fossil fuel industry.

00:24:08.000 And I spoke to a lot of the biggest financial institutions in the country.

00:24:12.000 And at the end of the day, a publicly traded company, their job is to maximize shareholder value, right?

00:24:20.000 And when I talked to them, I said, well, what stakeholder capitalism do you?

00:24:25.000 And they're like, well, you know, people that have different interests.

00:24:28.000 We have, you know, communities of color, indigenous people.

00:24:32.000 We have green energy.

00:24:34.000 We have environmentalists and this and that.

00:24:36.000 And I said, well, what about the shareholder?

00:24:37.000 Where do they fit in?

00:24:38.000 They're like, well, they're one of the stakeholders.

00:24:40.000 Let me just, kind of, real quick, just one second to insert this.

00:24:44.000 Pull this up.

00:24:45.000 According to Yahoo Finance, the top institutional stakeholder of Vanguard is BlackRock.

00:24:49.000 It is.

00:24:50.000 It's crazy!

00:24:50.000 You are right.

00:24:51.000 It should be broken up.

00:24:53.000 Anyway, anyway, Yilat, sorry.

00:24:54.000 The follow-up was going to be that, like, oftentimes that, because it's, this is what people would argue, that when it's just the shareholders in charge, some companies get gutted out and it doesn't help the workers, and some people are just looking to benefit on the back end, stock side, finance side of it.

00:25:08.000 So, that's kind of, I mean, shareholder capitalism, I mean, is not helping the employees.

00:25:16.000 Sure.

00:25:16.000 So, exactly.

00:25:17.000 The stakeholder capitalism, the idea of it is supposedly... Although the devil's in the details and it doesn't actually, but... I misspoke there.

00:25:24.000 So, in terms of shareholders, some of these guys do get some type of stock option and blah, blah, blah, and some of this.

00:25:30.000 The share or the stakeholder version of that It's not helping the employees either.

00:25:37.000 So at ExxonMobil's board, it's not a bunch of employees that said, like, we want to reduce oil production so we're working less.

00:25:43.000 No, this was pushed by BlackRock and then EngineOne, which was a former employee of BlackRock, who started their own company, and were able to get onto that board to help facilitate bringing these leftists onto the board to try to destroy ExxonMobil from the inside out.

00:25:59.000 I mean, all this does is essentially Redefine, and this is where it gets slippery, and this is by design, what risk is.

00:26:09.000 Right?

00:26:09.000 What risk is.

00:26:10.000 How do you define risk?

00:26:11.000 Well, they define risk by not being diverse enough. 0.81

00:26:14.000 They define risk by global climate change.

00:26:17.000 What they need to define risk is by the very simple definitions, what are called pecuniary factors of material financial risk and return.

00:26:26.000 They're going to end up destroying people's retirement funds.

00:26:30.000 I think the idea here is that they're arguing that their version of stakeholder capitalism is going to work to help the average employee.

00:26:39.000 I believe free markets actually help the workers more than what they're saying with stakeholder capital and ESG.

00:26:44.000 I just want to understand, you don't think this is actually helping the workers then?

00:26:47.000 No, this isn't helping the workers at all.

00:26:49.000 Because that's what they're arguing, that this is for them.

00:26:52.000 No, because you have Larry Fink at the top of this thing, right?

00:26:55.000 You know, over there at BlackRock, they all own each other and they're all in coordination.

00:26:58.000 Do you think anybody in these publicly traded companies have any vote or any say in this top-down?

00:27:05.000 Larry Fink has made very clear.

00:27:07.000 He was, of course, at the World Economic Forum just recently talking to Aaron Sorkin and saying, we are going to force behaviors.

00:27:15.000 We're going to force behaviors.

00:27:17.000 That is what we are going to do.

00:27:18.000 We're going to force behaviors.

00:27:20.000 And he has said capitalism, in his view, this stakeholder capitalism, has the ability

00:27:32.000 to essentially control people's behavior.

00:27:35.000 Has the ability to shape the world, is what he said, essentially.

00:27:40.000 I got a correction.

00:27:41.000 That last talk I showed wasn't Vanguard.

00:27:43.000 It was a different company called American Vanguard, and they're confusing, and it's actually very difficult to find who are the largest shareholders of Vanguard, which is different.

00:27:52.000 But I will pull it up.

00:27:54.000 So, Larry Fink says it has the ability to shape society.

00:27:58.000 But what if we don't want the same shape of society that Larry Fink does?

00:28:01.000 I want to interject on that.

00:28:03.000 The idea that we should be shaping society Every time that's been tried in human history, it's ended with piles and piles of dead bodies.

00:28:16.000 Yes.

00:28:17.000 Like, if you listen to Marx, he talked about new socialist man.

00:28:23.000 That man is not ready for the socialist system.

00:28:30.000 You have to remake man.

00:28:31.000 Nietzsche did the same thing when he talked about the Ubermensch, the overman.

00:28:36.000 He believed that without God, man had to come up with his own new morality and normal man, us, would not understand The overman's morality and the overman isn't in any position or isn't obligated to explain to us what they're trying to do is nothing new like the idea that we can reshape the world to prevent climate change, which I mean, there's a lot of things that I have problems that I have with the arguments for climate change, but

00:29:12.000 The effort to remake humanity always ends with piles of dead bodies.

00:29:17.000 The Nazis did it. 0.92

00:29:19.000 The communists did it more than once.

00:29:21.000 Pol Pot, 2 million people died in Cambodia. 0.84

00:29:25.000 That was 20% of all of the people in Cambodia.

00:29:28.000 There was 8 million people in Cambodia before Pol Pot.

00:29:31.000 They killed 2 million people.

00:29:33.000 Mao tried to change.

00:29:35.000 Mao believed that the sparrows were a problem.

00:29:40.000 And they weren't communist, so they were eating the seed.

00:29:44.000 And so he told all the people in China, kill the sparrows, don't let the sparrows land. 0.96

00:29:50.000 And what happened was, because the sparrows were not there to eat the bugs, the bugs ate all the crops and there was a famine and millions of people died.

00:29:59.000 When you try to affect the whole world, when you try to change mankind, humans Yes.

00:30:06.000 screw it up and it always ends in piles and piles and piles of dead bodies. This

00:30:12.000 ESG stuff is aimed at affecting climate change. You talk about the stuff that was

00:30:18.000 going on in I think it was the Dutch farmers that were having the problem

00:30:22.000 that's because they wanted to they wanted to limit how much they could

00:30:25.000 produce. They want to limit how much you can use fossil fuels.

00:30:30.000 All of our fertilizer is fossil fuel based.

00:30:33.000 It's all petrochemicals.

00:30:34.000 If you don't have fertilizers, then you're going to have famines.

00:30:38.000 Millions and millions, if they are successful in getting control of basically the markets, global markets, there will be Millions and millions and millions and millions of people, probably a billion people, that will die of famine.

00:30:57.000 This is not hyperbolic either.

00:31:00.000 All you have to do is look at the 20th century and see the death tolls that were a result of governments trying to reshape human nature.

00:31:13.000 I want to, real quick, just... There's no shareholders of Vanguard.

00:31:17.000 Vanguard says they're the only investment management company owned by its investors.

00:31:21.000 It basically means the people who put their money in it, they're quote-unquote the owners, but someone still runs it.

00:31:27.000 Right.

00:31:29.000 And to Phil's point on, you know, if listening audience is curious, Nietzsche, go look at Will to Power.

00:31:34.000 That's a book that he wrote.

00:31:35.000 It's a terrible book.

00:31:36.000 But look, it's very interesting because that is kind of where we are right now.

00:31:43.000 But to his point, in Ireland, they're telling them that they're going to have to cull, that means kill, all of their cattle to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from cows.

00:31:55.000 I mean, this is how they've lived there for centuries, for centuries, right?

00:32:00.000 I mean, so what is that going to do To the island of Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, right?

00:32:05.000 And at the end of the day, we have this collusion as it relates to ESG in between corporate power and left-wing ideology.

00:32:13.000 So it's this unholy merger of corporate power and left-wing ideology that you've seen before.

00:32:18.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:32:20.000 We got this from the Daily Mail.

00:32:21.000 Targets market cap slumps by $15 billion amid backlash over tuck-friendly swimsuits.

00:32:28.000 Analysts say retail giant is hemorrhaging customers to Walmart.

00:32:31.000 Now all that stuff we're talking about, I'm just going to sit back and say we're winning.

00:32:31.000 Oh no.

00:32:34.000 Yes.

00:32:35.000 You hate to see it.

00:32:35.000 Yeah.

00:32:36.000 Oh no.

00:32:38.000 You love to see it.

00:32:39.000 Regular people, we saw parents rising up saying, get this stuff away from my kids.

00:32:43.000 We're seeing gamers who have long been in the culture where in fact gamers started the culture war back with Gamergate, now still being very active and now taking center stage once again.

00:32:54.000 And now we have the Bud Light Effect, Target, Kohl's, North Face.

00:32:58.000 These companies are getting slammed by people who are just saying I'm fed up.

00:33:01.000 When did the Target boycott begin?

00:33:04.000 Middle of May.

00:33:05.000 It was on May 21st when things just started to plummet.

00:33:08.000 Yeah, it was like May 17th or something.

00:33:10.000 Two and a half weeks ago?

00:33:11.000 Wow.

00:33:13.000 People are just tired of it.

00:33:15.000 And the great thing is that right now the free market does still work, right?

00:33:20.000 We're watching that.

00:33:21.000 We're watching that as it relates to Target.

00:33:23.000 But in a not-too-distant future, if we don't continue to push back against this, And look, I think we are starting to chip away at this ESG issue.

00:33:32.000 We are.

00:33:33.000 Now, Vanguard has dropped out of the Net Zero Asset Managers Alliance.

00:33:38.000 Now, I think they're still doing it.

00:33:40.000 They're still involved in it.

00:33:41.000 But they're starting to hedge.

00:33:43.000 You're seeing people start to hedge.

00:33:45.000 And these folks are going to have to learn their lesson in free market economics.

00:33:49.000 Guess who shops at Target?

00:33:51.000 Not your woke liberal elites.

00:33:53.000 They're driving Subarus to Whole Foods, right?

00:33:55.000 Riley, so I wanted to follow up with you.

00:33:57.000 You're running for a very important in the second congressional district here in West Virginia.

00:34:02.000 I know ESG has been a big part of your campaign so far.

00:34:05.000 Are there any other big issues that you're especially concerned about?

00:34:08.000 Yeah, certainly.

00:34:09.000 Obviously, we've done a lot in the state treasurer's office, which I'm in currently on ESG.

00:34:14.000 But some of the other big ones is China, something that we're going to have to contend with as a country and moving forward.

00:34:22.000 I mean, the idea that we're still making pharmaceuticals over there, I think, is hugely problematic.

00:34:27.000 They're going to be one of the biggest threats, I think, in the near and long-term future for us.

00:34:34.000 But domestically, where I'm focused, and I run what's called the HOPE Scholarship here in West Virginia, it's an educational savings account.

00:34:41.000 We must, and underline this, we must eliminate the Department of Education.

00:34:47.000 It has to go.

00:34:49.000 Wow.

00:34:50.000 It has to go.

00:34:51.000 Yes, no, the Department of Education must be eliminated.

00:34:55.000 If you look at when Jimmy Carter instituted that to where we are now, we used to be number one in education in the world and where we are now, it is not working.

00:35:05.000 And so we need to move that money back to the states and then take a portion of that money to create educational savings accounts all around the country because not as many states are as free as West Virginia.

00:35:16.000 Every American child, whether in California or New York, needs to have educational opportunity and choice.

00:35:21.000 So that's going to be a big issue as well that I'm going to work on.

00:35:23.000 I wanted to follow up with you.

00:35:24.000 There's a very contentious Republican presidential primary going on.

00:35:28.000 I'm not sure if you heard.

00:35:29.000 What do you think of the primary so far?

00:35:31.000 I have heard.

00:35:32.000 I've heard a little bit about that.

00:35:34.000 I have endorsed President Trump, and so that is certainly who I'm supporting.

00:35:39.000 Can I follow up with you on that?

00:35:40.000 I talked a lot about this.

00:35:42.000 I talked about it with Seamus yesterday.

00:35:43.000 I see that you were endorsed by the West Virginia for Life.

00:35:46.000 Yes.

00:35:47.000 In a lot of Trump's statements, he actually sounds less pro-life than Ron DeSantis does.

00:35:52.000 I think Ron DeSantis was trying to push six weeks bans while Trump puts out tweets blaming the abortion issue for Republicans losing in the midterms.

00:36:00.000 So, how do you square, you know, supporting, endorsing Trump and being so pro-life when there are other more pro-life people in the field?

00:36:08.000 Yeah, you know, I've seen some of those statements.

00:36:11.000 I can't say I'm necessarily happy with that.

00:36:13.000 In West Virginia, we passed a ban and it's zero weeks in West Virginia, so obviously... When was that?

00:36:21.000 That was in the last session.

00:36:25.000 It passed?

00:36:26.000 Oh, so this is January?

00:36:27.000 Yeah, so... West Virginia always gets ignored when these things happen.

00:36:30.000 Yeah, so that's a law in West Virginia.

00:36:32.000 There are some exemptions in it.

00:36:35.000 Rape, incest, life of mother, but Uh, yep.

00:36:39.000 So that's what happened in West Virginia.

00:36:41.000 I don't even understand the incest one, though.

00:36:43.000 Like, I understand it's bad, don't get me wrong.

00:36:45.000 I think it shouldn't happen.

00:36:47.000 When it comes to the issue of rape, that I certainly understand for exceptions.

00:36:51.000 And it's a horrible thing, still.

00:36:53.000 But I don't understand the conservative argument on why incest necessitates awards.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, I don't really understand that one either.

00:37:00.000 Like, if the baby's not viable and can't survive, there's not a question of exceptions.

00:37:04.000 It's an issue of, like, well, the baby can't survive if the incest results in deformity.

00:37:08.000 Now, again, obviously, incest should not be happening.

00:37:11.000 Right.

00:37:12.000 But I just don't understand what the conservative argument is, why we give that an exception.

00:37:15.000 Also, like, how often is that happening?

00:37:17.000 Like, I don't...

00:37:19.000 What I've heard from conservatives is that it's meant to refer to child abuse.

00:37:24.000 You know, like parents abusing their kids.

00:37:24.000 Right.

00:37:26.000 Yeah, and I guess at the end of the day, isn't, like, rape still covered by that?

00:37:29.000 That's why I just don't understand.

00:37:30.000 I mean, it's a eugenic argument.

00:37:33.000 It's a eugenics argument that incest results in abnormality.

00:37:36.000 And I'm like, I get that, but wouldn't the conservative position?

00:37:39.000 Like, I'm more pro-choice than probably you guys, I think.

00:37:43.000 I don't know about a lot or whatever.

00:37:44.000 I'm more pro-choice.

00:37:45.000 Fourteen weeks.

00:37:46.000 But so I just don't understand the conservative argument.

00:37:48.000 Yeah, I don't really get that.

00:37:50.000 I have another question for you.

00:37:53.000 So you come from a political family.

00:37:55.000 Your grandfather was, he served in the House Reps for a decade, then he was also the governor here in Western Virginia for a decade.

00:38:02.000 Your aunt is currently serving in West Virginia as the junior senator, Ms. 0.95

00:38:06.000 Shelley Morcapito. 0.99

00:38:08.000 How would you respond to somebody who says, we've seen enough nepotism in our country and government already, and that you undoubtedly do benefit from the family name, your aunt still keeps her, she has a hyphenated last name to still keep that more name.

00:38:23.000 How would you respond to somebody that you're benefiting from your family name and, you know, not necessarily your merit?

00:38:29.000 Yeah, look, it's a great question.

00:38:30.000 I don't want anybody to vote for me because of my name.

00:38:33.000 I want them to vote for Riley.

00:38:35.000 And, you know, it is a fair point that people make on that, and I wouldn't argue for a minute.

00:38:41.000 But, look, I'm not running on my name, I'm running on my record.

00:38:44.000 And, look, I've got a very conservative record, and I think it stands for itself, and I think it stands on its own.

00:38:51.000 You know, don't vote for me because of my last name.

00:38:54.000 And if that's an issue for you, I totally understand.

00:38:57.000 But just take a look at my record.

00:38:59.000 I don't really care.

00:39:01.000 Like, Jeb didn't make it. 1.00

00:39:02.000 Jeb was trash. 0.98

00:39:03.000 But part of why they get some of that bump initially is a result of the last name. 0.99

00:39:07.000 Same with Kennedy.

00:39:07.000 I think a lot of Kennedy support just comes from the last name.

00:39:10.000 Same with the Bushes.

00:39:11.000 Same with the Clintons. 0.95

00:39:12.000 I mean, but Ryan's pretty based.

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 Rand Paul?

00:39:15.000 I don't think Rand would have had the opportunity, though, had it not been for his father.

00:39:18.000 And I'm not knocking your credentials, but the benefit from your grandfather was very influential, and your aunt is still very influential.

00:39:25.000 But let me just say, does Ron have any other kids?

00:39:28.000 Does Rand have any siblings?

00:39:29.000 I don't know.

00:39:30.000 If there was like a third Randette Paul and she was running, I would be like, show me no more, I'm voting.

00:39:36.000 Well, he's the third one in the family.

00:39:38.000 Ron Paul's children I would vote for in a heartbeat.

00:39:41.000 Any apple that fell from that tree gets my vote.

00:39:44.000 But isn't that nepotism then?

00:39:45.000 You're voting them because... It's family values.

00:39:48.000 It's favoritism.

00:39:49.000 I'm half kidding.

00:39:50.000 You could argue that Someone that is related to someone else is the most qualified person for the job.

00:39:55.000 And in those situations, I don't consider it favoritism and therefore not nepotism.

00:39:59.000 It's not nepotism.

00:40:00.000 What isn't nepotism?

00:40:02.000 Voting for someone because they're a father?

00:40:03.000 That's not nepotism.

00:40:04.000 Because nepotism, it means that, like, you get someone a job because they're related.

00:40:09.000 Nepotism is the practice among those with power influence of favoring relatives.

00:40:13.000 I... Yeah, but that means that's... Riley's not appointed.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, I'm not appointed.

00:40:18.000 I think you undoubtedly benefit from the name, but the follow-up would be, the Thanksgiving dinners must be interesting.

00:40:24.000 I don't know, are you going to get the endorsement from your aunt?

00:40:28.000 I might be in trouble if I don't.

00:40:30.000 Did she endorse you?

00:40:31.000 I don't... Yeah, I mean, yeah, she supports what I do.

00:40:34.000 She's supporting what I'm running for.

00:40:35.000 She's the junior senator in West Virginia.

00:40:37.000 Oh, I thought you were talking about Mary Tyler.

00:40:39.000 She is Shelley Moore Capito.

00:40:40.000 We're not fans.

00:40:42.000 I know you're not, and look, Why aren't you a fan?

00:40:44.000 Because she signed on to red flag laws and then lied about it. 1.00

00:40:49.000 What do you think of that? Look, I don't support red flag laws. And look, we're related. She's my 0.97

00:40:54.000 aunt. I love her. But, you know, doesn't mean we're going to agree on everything. Right. So

00:40:59.000 it's I don't support red flag laws. I don't support any restrictions on the Second Amendment

00:41:03.000 whatsoever. We don't need to do. Yes. We don't need to do anything new as it relates to the

00:41:08.000 Second Amendment. Yes, we do. We need to repeal. Oh, yes.

00:41:11.000 We have to repeal. I'm talking about moving forward on any type of restrictions whatsoever. Hey,

00:41:16.000 look, we've been winning on two way across the. Yeah, I know. We.

00:41:23.000 If you look at the maps of gun rights, it's just been victory after victory after victory. 0.61

00:41:26.000 I gotta be honest, I think people, they hear us complain about bad things, and they get blackpilled, and they're like, oh, Tim's blackpilled, and I'm like, look man, just because I'm saying like, hey, thing over here is really bad does not mean the totality of things are moving in a positive way.

00:41:41.000 That's why I often try to say like, look, I know it's getting really, really bad, but my vision really is the end result is gonna be awesome stuff happening.

00:41:47.000 Yes.

00:41:48.000 Like, the reason we are in a conflict culturally with, like, the targets, the Bud Lights, the Anheuser-Busch or whatever, is because we are now standing up and pushing back.

00:41:57.000 When you get sick, you are already infected.

00:42:01.000 That pain you're feeling is fighting back against it.

00:42:04.000 So the stuff we're going through now means we have engaged and we are seeing victory after victory after victory.

00:42:10.000 So I'm feeling pretty good.

00:42:11.000 I think it could get bad, especially with the Trump indictments and all that stuff.

00:42:14.000 It is getting bad.

00:42:15.000 But I think it's that we're seeing when someone is drowning, And they can't breathe.

00:42:15.000 Yeah.

00:42:21.000 They start thrashing around as violently as possible.

00:42:24.000 And they say, if you're trying to rescue them, you've got to approach them from behind and lift them up.

00:42:28.000 Otherwise, they'll drag you down.

00:42:30.000 The machine is in a death rattle.

00:42:32.000 It is gurgling and shaking as it ends itself.

00:42:37.000 It's struggling.

00:42:38.000 So I see the sun rising.

00:42:40.000 I think we're heading in a good direction, but it doesn't mean there's going to be some hardships along the way.

00:42:43.000 Don, we've got to sail through that storm.

00:42:44.000 Riley, what do you think of the second indictment?

00:42:45.000 Well, first indictment.

00:42:46.000 What do you think of the indictments against Trump?

00:42:48.000 You want to do indictment one or two?

00:42:50.000 Let's start with two.

00:42:51.000 Let me pull up the current story on this one.

00:42:54.000 From Politico.

00:42:56.000 Trump haphazardly stashed military secrets throughout his home, indictment says.

00:43:00.000 Prosecutors charged Trump with 37 felonies, including 31 counts under the Espionage Act of willful retention of classified records.

00:43:09.000 37 felonies!

00:43:13.000 I mean, this is breakdown of political and social order in the United States.

00:43:17.000 And how many did they have in New York?

00:43:19.000 I can't remember, how many was that?

00:43:20.000 Was that seven?

00:43:20.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:43:25.000 The timing on this is so interesting, right?

00:43:28.000 It's literally the day that the Republicans in Congress announced that they have Biden dead to rights on the Burisma bribe deal.

00:43:39.000 Same exact day.

00:43:40.000 And we knew it the whole time.

00:43:42.000 Remarkable moment on this show.

00:43:44.000 I'd like to give a shout out to our friend Hunter Avalon.

00:43:46.000 When I brought up that Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loans.

00:43:52.000 And he goes, that never happened.

00:43:54.000 That's on video!

00:43:55.000 I pull up the video and I'm like, there's the video of it happening!

00:43:57.000 And it's remarkable to me how many people are willing to opine on the Ukraine conflict without having done the research into the Burisma scandal, the Qatar Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, etc.

00:44:07.000 We've been talking about this for some time.

00:44:09.000 I went through Ukrainian, Russian, British, French, and U.S.

00:44:13.000 news reports tracking down what was going on.

00:44:16.000 I went through Wikipedia, which is, I know, not the best, but I'm trying to connect the dots, and the dots are pretty clear.

00:44:22.000 The guy who was running Burisma, you got a former CIA guy on the board, you got Hunter Biden on the board.

00:44:27.000 It is clear that there is something nefarious going on.

00:44:31.000 When Biden came out and said, you know, we want to fire the prosecutor because he wasn't good, and then he gets fired and they put someone good in, lies.

00:44:39.000 The CEO of Burisma had fled the country, and the prosecutor had about a dozen or more, this is according to Matt Taibbi, open investigations into Mykola Zlochevsky and Burisma.

00:44:50.000 When the prosecutor got fired, those investigations go away, Zlochevsky returns to the country. 0.93

00:44:57.000 Strange.

00:44:57.000 He was the CEO, Zlochevsky?

00:44:58.000 He's the founder.

00:44:59.000 I think he was CEO, he's the founder.

00:45:00.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 When Trump then starts asking questions, what's going on?

00:45:04.000 Flees the country again.

00:45:06.000 Yeah.

00:45:07.000 So when Biden's intervention resulted in the guy coming back.

00:45:11.000 Nonsense.

00:45:11.000 Right?

00:45:12.000 It is clear as day.

00:45:14.000 And so that drops the exact same day as this.

00:45:17.000 Not to mention, How many boxes does Biden have next to his Corvette in his garage?

00:45:24.000 I mean, like, what the hell are we talking about here?

00:45:27.000 I mean, you know, this is this is so obviously political.

00:45:32.000 And this Department of Justice has been so politically motivated now for so many years.

00:45:37.000 I mean, we've seen it.

00:45:38.000 I mean, how many investigations into Trump, right?

00:45:41.000 Oh, Russia collusion.

00:45:43.000 Totally fake.

00:45:43.000 Fake.

00:45:45.000 Everybody knows that it's fake now.

00:45:46.000 Right.

00:45:47.000 And so now here we are on this one as well.

00:45:48.000 I hope everybody knows that it's fake, if it's fake, because I have a feeling that 70 million people have no idea.

00:45:56.000 I think you're right about that.

00:45:57.000 But I bet everybody in this room knows it's fake.

00:45:59.000 So I believe it's fake.

00:46:01.000 Teflon Don, many people have taken shots at him.

00:46:04.000 He's gone through many impeachments and whatnot.

00:46:06.000 I can't even remember all of the scandals.

00:46:08.000 But it seems as though they're saying there's like a smoking gun here where there's this transcript in the indictment where it's saying that he's talking to a staffer about declassifying when he's not able to.

00:46:18.000 Have you seen this stuff and do you think this will be the one that gets him?

00:46:21.000 Let me just, real quick, sorry to interrupt you, but hey, you want to buy a bridge from me?

00:46:25.000 If it's cheap enough, I don't know.

00:46:27.000 Do you have a deal for me?

00:46:29.000 Yeah, do I think this one's going to stick?

00:46:31.000 I don't.

00:46:32.000 I don't think it's going to stick.

00:46:34.000 And I would say in the psyche and the conscience of the American people out here, who are not kind of like brainwashed into thinking that Trump colluded with Russia and all these other things, I don't think they're going to believe this either.

00:46:48.000 I mean, how many of these things are going to keep coming up that they're going to try to get him on?

00:46:54.000 To answer your question, in New York he's been charged with 34 felony counts.

00:46:58.000 Yeah, 34 felony counts in New York and nothing came of that.

00:47:01.000 He's the first former president to be criminally indicted, as I understand.

00:47:06.000 Many people say this will escalate with a tit-for-tat once a Republican is elected.

00:47:09.000 100% better!

00:47:10.000 Do you want to see different former Democrats indicted on things?

00:47:15.000 Well, I'm sure they could find the Zbyrzma stuff with Joe Biden, but would you like to see Democratic former presidents also searched through and possibly indicted?

00:47:23.000 I mean, not in any political manner, but look, if they have broken the law, then yes.

00:47:28.000 I mean, then yes, look, I mean, people need to be answerable to the law.

00:47:32.000 And I mean, our current president certainly isn't.

00:47:36.000 A good prosecutor could indict a rock, is, you know, one of the sayings.

00:47:41.000 If you have a good prosecutor, you could find anything to indict on.

00:47:44.000 So that's why I kind of ask, it becomes political once they start indicting Republicans and then them trying to do it back to them.

00:47:49.000 So on that... Yeah, and this isn't the first time you've seen this, right?

00:47:53.000 So they started down this path, impeachment with Richard Nixon, and then they came back in revenge on Bill Clinton, right?

00:48:01.000 I mean, so you've seen some of this before, but it's like, you've gone through two impeachments with Trump, you've gone through all these investigations and all the... I mean, It is, in one sense though, I'd say what's very interesting about it is that it shows you the power of the deep state.

00:48:17.000 It shows you how powerful they are and it is exposing who is actually in charge here.

00:48:23.000 Absolutely.

00:48:24.000 It's Joe Biden.

00:48:28.000 Every day it's Joe Biden.

00:48:30.000 It's the relentless nature of the organization.

00:48:32.000 It's funny that me saying Joe Biden was in charge is a joke and everyone laughs.

00:48:36.000 Man, I saw a video of him the day just staggering around on stage with a vacant stare and then I saw his profile and it looked really like a fat cheek.

00:48:43.000 I was like, Mr. Magoo is our president!

00:48:45.000 Yeah.

00:48:46.000 Man, that show was funny.

00:48:48.000 And that's, it indicate like, why is the Justice Department going sideways?

00:48:52.000 Well, we have no leadership or a lack of leadership.

00:48:54.000 Like a good president, no matter who you are, is going to know that you don't want to disrupt and destroy your political establishment.

00:48:59.000 Oh, if you're part of the deep state right now and you're working there, this is like the greatest time of your life.

00:49:03.000 Yeah.

00:49:04.000 You think they enjoy it?

00:49:05.000 Oh, this is great!

00:49:06.000 Very little.

00:49:07.000 I mean, you just left your own devices.

00:49:09.000 It's all political appointees and people that have been there forever that are just having the time of their life.

00:49:15.000 And they're getting a lot done, unfortunately.

00:49:19.000 And I mean, it's unfortunate for all the people in America.

00:49:22.000 But I will say this about Hunter.

00:49:23.000 Hunter could play a very critical role in ending the war in Ukraine, I do believe.

00:49:29.000 All he would have to do, I think, for a brief period of time, given the nature of his consumption, boycott, perhaps, Russian liquor and hookers, and the war's over. 0.93

00:49:39.000 I mean, I think it would have an effect on the economy that would be irreversible, perhaps.

00:49:45.000 Like that Putin would fly him out?

00:49:47.000 Yeah, it's like, Hunter, we need you back, please.

00:49:52.000 How do you feel about this war in Ukraine situation?

00:49:55.000 What kind of resolution do you see?

00:49:57.000 You know, I think the unfortunate thing is that you're not seeing, and of course out of this administration, there seems to be no diplomatic overtures whatsoever to try to end the war in Ukraine.

00:50:11.000 And there needs to be some type of negotiated end to this.

00:50:16.000 If you think that The Ukrainians are going to be able to categorically and strategically defeat the Russian military and defeat Russia.

00:50:28.000 That's not a likely outcome, right?

00:50:31.000 And so they need to be in a position where there can be some type of negotiated peace settlement here.

00:50:38.000 The Ukrainians, though, for them, they want Crimea back.

00:50:41.000 They want the Donbass, you know.

00:50:43.000 I don't know if that's necessarily possible, but there needs to be some type of diplomatic overtures from our Secretary of State, who seems to be... Has anybody seen him?

00:50:53.000 Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State?

00:50:55.000 I hear nothing from him.

00:50:58.000 Nothing from him on this.

00:50:59.000 I feel like I've heard more from Henry Kissinger, who's like a hundred Right?

00:51:03.000 I mean, like, he's talked about this more than Tony Blinken has.

00:51:06.000 It's funny you mention that, because Tony Blinken actually went to Henry Kissinger's 100th birthday in New York City, like, sometime last week.

00:51:13.000 Not to derail the conversation too aggressively, but I think it kind of relates to this.

00:51:17.000 President Joe Biden has said that if Taiwan is attacked by China, then we will defend them.

00:51:21.000 Do you think the United States should come to the defense of Taiwan if attacked by China?

00:51:25.000 Yeah, I think that there is a, we do have to deter China as it relates to Taiwan. 0.95

00:51:33.000 And I think that there can be deterrence in that because you're talking about a massive area that is hugely important to the United States as it relates to the economy of the United States, right?

00:51:45.000 But deterrence is the key here.

00:51:47.000 I mean, somebody said a long time ago, if you want peace, prepare for war.

00:51:51.000 Isn't it, if we do say we will defend Taiwan, that would be setting deterrence then?

00:51:57.000 So can we get a yes or no answer on it?

00:51:59.000 I mean, deterrence is different than war.

00:52:01.000 Well, we'd be deterring China by telling them that we would come to the defense of Taiwan.

00:52:06.000 Yes, but deterrence is also power projection, right?

00:52:09.000 So we, I'll give you a great example, we deterred the Soviet Union for decades, right? 0.97

00:52:14.000 I mean, that was the detente, that was the deterrence strategy there.

00:52:18.000 Deterrence can be a viable option here, because they're going to make the calculation, because for them, they're going to have to look to see, okay, they're going to take airstrikes into Taiwan.

00:52:29.000 Eventually, they will have to put boots on the ground in an amphibious assault, right?

00:52:32.000 But then they're also going to have to take out our assets in Third Fleet, right?

00:52:36.000 Who's out there in the Pacific.

00:52:38.000 That is going to then incur massive casualties on their side and ours.

00:52:42.000 Amphibious, they've not done amphibious invasion, right?

00:52:45.000 So they're trying to think that hundred mile stretch that they're going to have to cross, what that looks like.

00:52:49.000 We have to make that calculation as difficult as humanly possible for them.

00:52:54.000 In fact, just could Joe Biden has repeatedly said that we will militarily intervene if Taiwan is attacked by China.

00:52:59.000 Do you agree with Joe Biden or disagree?

00:53:01.000 I feel like I know we could put a lot of but at the end of the day, like, yeah, I mean, that statement is like, so basic, I guess it's what he says is why I'm asking it kind of specifically like that.

00:53:11.000 Yeah, I mean, It's like with anything with him.

00:53:14.000 It's like it's such a basic answer It's like we should like what his answer should be is like we should deter China from invading Taiwan He'd argue that he's deterring them by saying that he would come to their defense And Trump did something similar.

00:53:28.000 Trump famously bragged that he told Xi Jinping and Putin that he would nuke, what did he say, Shanghai?

00:53:35.000 Moscow, I think.

00:53:36.000 He said Moscow.

00:53:37.000 And he was like, and you know, they don't really believe me, maybe 5%, but it was enough.

00:53:41.000 And that was like, I'm like, man, I like Trump.

00:53:44.000 I get why he's doing it.

00:53:46.000 If it stops the war, Yes, this is the biggest geopolitical issue of our time. 0.50

00:53:51.000 And that's the thing, we have to, the stated objective here is...

00:53:57.000 For me, to stop war. 0.55

00:54:00.000 Like, we don't want a war with China over Taiwan.

00:54:04.000 I just think, to come out and be like, yes or no, should we militarily defend Taiwan, it's not so easy to say.

00:54:12.000 Well, that's deterrence.

00:54:14.000 The idea of deterrence is to... I get it, but it maybe makes sense for a commander-in-chief.

00:54:18.000 I don't know what I could say about it.

00:54:22.000 I know this is related, there's talk about China setting up some kind of base in Cuba.

00:54:26.000 Would you support military action to prevent that?

00:54:30.000 Yes.

00:54:31.000 Oh, of course.

00:54:33.000 Well, I mean, that's like on the table.

00:54:36.000 You know why China's doing it, too.

00:54:37.000 They're like, you want to come to our territory, we'll come into yours. 0.99

00:54:41.000 They've been sending their boats up to Alaska and Hawaii.

00:54:45.000 Yes.

00:54:46.000 It's the Monroe Doctrine is what it is that prevents it to keep anyone from basically Asia out of the Western Hemisphere.

00:54:54.000 Anybody out of the sphere of influence of the Western Hemisphere.

00:54:58.000 Although we still have communists running around in Cuba.

00:55:00.000 We have literal communists in the United States.

00:55:03.000 The FBI picked up Chinese police policing the Chinese people in the United States.

00:55:10.000 I want people to understand this.

00:55:12.000 I'm like ridiculously anti-intervention and anti-war, but the only thing I can say is when war starts, Your pieces of paper, your Constitution, your laws mean nothing.

00:55:24.000 Yep.

00:55:25.000 The only thing that holds the Constitution together is a community of people who all agree these are the rules.

00:55:29.000 But if it came down to China setting up a military base in Cuba, we're talking, what is it, 50 some odd miles?

00:55:37.000 Is it 90 miles?

00:55:38.000 It's 100 miles to Key West from that listening station.

00:55:40.000 There you go, 100 miles.

00:55:42.000 So we're talking 100 miles away from U.S.

00:55:45.000 territory, not to mention our waters, If it came down to actual bombs falling, do you think anyone is going to stop in the middle of a war and be like, okay, we've got a wave of enemy troops and spies in this area and you go, hey, I have a right to stand here.

00:56:01.000 They're going to be like, dude, my children will die.

00:56:03.000 You will not block me right now.

00:56:05.000 We are at war.

00:56:06.000 When war happens, you're not, you're going to be hard pressed to find anybody.

00:56:09.000 So we talked about this the other day with Abraham Lincoln.

00:56:12.000 We were taught throughout our lives how much of a hero he was, but yo, dude had a suspension of habeas corpus corridor going up through Maryland.

00:56:21.000 The federal government arrested members of the Maryland legislature because they had pro-Southern sentiments.

00:56:29.000 Ain't nobody care what you think your rights are when people are fighting for their lives.

00:56:33.000 So, if war were to break out, if China invades Taiwan, we can all sit back and argue the merits, but if it came down to bombs dropping on our allies, I don't think there's even a question to be had.

00:56:45.000 Like, war hit us the moment other countries are being blown up.

00:56:49.000 Now, I know there's a bunch of very, very hardcore anti-interventionists.

00:56:53.000 I'm friends with a lot of them.

00:56:54.000 A lot of libertarians are gonna be like, under no circumstances, but I'm like, It's not so simple as just to say we can't.

00:57:00.000 If the war escalates into US territory, we have military bases in South Korea, maybe we shouldn't, but if they're under fire, if their ports are blockaded, if there is massive warfare breaking out, we are in it whether we want it or not. 100%.

00:57:14.000 I think the U.S.

00:57:15.000 sphere of influence should not be as pronounced.

00:57:18.000 We need better international agreements.

00:57:20.000 I wish there was an easy answer as to how you solve for this, but I do think if the U.S.

00:57:25.000 does pull out of these places, China just slams right through. 0.99

00:57:28.000 Yeah, they will.

00:57:29.000 And then you get war.

00:57:30.000 And then you get war.

00:57:32.000 I wish it was so easy enough to be like, the US should stay out of it in all circumstances.

00:57:39.000 But that's the one thing that keeps me from being an absolutist anti-interventionist.

00:57:44.000 Yeah, and I guess that's my point is that our objective should be to prevent war. 0.79

00:57:48.000 It should be to deter war. 1.00

00:57:50.000 Certainly, I guess with his statement, he's trying to do that.

00:57:52.000 But what we should do is everything in our power with our allies there is to deter war.

00:57:58.000 South Korea, we have tens of thousands of forces there.

00:58:00.000 Whether you agree with that or not, they're there.

00:58:02.000 Japan, obviously in Okinawa, we have forces there as well.

00:58:06.000 And we have a lot of trade in between Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, and this country.

00:58:13.000 Those international shipping lanes and waters We'll be closed.

00:58:17.000 I think it's 60% of world GDP that goes through those states?

00:58:20.000 Yes, they will then control that then, right?

00:58:22.000 So our goods and services will not be able to reach those areas any longer.

00:58:26.000 And maybe somebody might say, well, we shouldn't trade with them anyway.

00:58:30.000 Well, I will tell you as an economic effect here in the United States, it would have a massive negative effect in the short term, and likely the long term.

00:58:38.000 I want to ask a question for the people, the anti-interventionist individuals in the chat.

00:58:43.000 We have military bases in South Korea, we have military bases all over the Pacific, we have allies.

00:58:50.000 If war broke out with Taiwan, and then we were just like, we can't do it, we don't want World War III, so we don't get involved.

00:58:56.000 I can understand the position.

00:58:58.000 If China then starts blockading this area of the Pacific, causing resource strain in South Korea, which causes economic collapse, and do we then say, okay, we've got to at least tell them to open up trade, and do we then militarily intervene?

00:59:14.000 Not in terms of war, but to send a presence to be like, we are opening up a trade corridor back off.

00:59:20.000 What happens if, in the conflict, missiles go flying, and you end up with elements of Japan or South Korea taking damage?

00:59:30.000 Do we then intervene?

00:59:31.000 Like, physical conflict happens.

00:59:32.000 Taiwan's fighting, there's now jets, there's bombs going off, and then it spreads throughout the region.

00:59:39.000 Do we intervene then?

00:59:40.000 If you say no, I totally get it. 0.78

00:59:42.000 I am like 99%.

00:59:43.000 There's so much I don't get involved, would not want the U.S.

00:59:47.000 involved in because it's not us.

00:59:49.000 But the question is, at what point is the conflict escalating to where we would have to, in your mind?

00:59:55.000 Maybe the answer is never, because I'm genuinely asking.

00:59:58.000 What if the conflict reaches the point where U.S.

01:00:00.000 military bases are locked in, our troops can't get out, and now that the conflict has spread, South Korea is now involved, and U.S.

01:00:06.000 military bases are taking active flak in the conflict?

01:00:10.000 Do we then get involved?

01:00:12.000 Well, I think you raise a really good point, right?

01:00:14.000 So, how many troops do we have in Afghanistan there?

01:00:16.000 18,000?

01:00:16.000 We have about roughly 60,000 just in South Korea.

01:00:21.000 And these are remnants of World War II and the Cold War.

01:00:23.000 And the Korean War.

01:00:26.000 And so, you know, my stance very much is like...

01:00:26.000 Right, absolutely.

01:00:30.000 We shouldn't.

01:00:30.000 The US is just... I believe that the establishment, as we refer to it, is the empire.

01:00:38.000 And the American people want nothing to do with any of this.

01:00:40.000 We want to live our lives, work hard, and have a great country. 0.98

01:00:44.000 Instead, we have these powerful, worldly interests, global interests, internationalists, spending our money and our labor on Ukraine, printing money, Federal Reserve, all that garbage that I think is trash.

01:00:55.000 The question realistically though is, and genuinely, not rhetorically, when do you think there is a line at which the U.S.

01:01:02.000 has to engage?

01:01:04.000 Should we decommission our military bases and bring our troops back? 1.00

01:01:07.000 Or do we say a conflict in the region has now resulted in American lives lost?

01:01:11.000 We're involved.

01:01:12.000 Well, if American lives are lost, then yeah, we got to get involved.

01:01:15.000 And I mean, yeah, it's tough, right?

01:01:17.000 And the problem is you're going to have a lot of dominoes fall.

01:01:21.000 Do you think for any... 28,000 in South Korea?

01:01:24.000 Yeah.

01:01:25.000 Any reasonable, including contractors and all those other civilians in there, I think it's close to 60.

01:01:32.000 And do you think under any circumstances, China stops at Taiwan?

01:01:37.000 If Taiwan falls, then we have no credibility among our allies in the region.

01:01:37.000 No way.

01:01:42.000 And I just also wanted to mention, because of our troops in Korea, they are strictly there as deterrence to get killed. 0.92

01:01:48.000 There is no chance of them being able to fight back in case of an actual attack.

01:01:52.000 Those are just there to increase the lives lost, the political cost, than if an attack were to happen on South Korea.

01:01:58.000 And that's a good reason for them not to be there.

01:02:00.000 Well, no, that is the deterrence.

01:02:02.000 That is what the deterrence is at play there.

01:02:05.000 So now if North Korea wants to do anything to the South, or China wants to help North Korea do anything to the South, it's going to cost you 30,000 American lives.

01:02:12.000 And the consequences of that in mainland USA... Yeah, if we'd had 30,000 troops in Ukraine, Putin would not have invaded.

01:02:19.000 He would have killed them.

01:02:20.000 And then the consequence here would have been... If he had killed them, then we would be at war right now. 1.00

01:02:24.000 So that's the idea of deterrence.

01:02:26.000 I think that if the US issued a no-fly zone before the invasion, Putin would not have invaded.

01:02:31.000 There were so many things that could have happened right before the invasion.

01:02:36.000 It did not have to happen this way, mismanaged under the Obama administration.

01:02:39.000 I disagree.

01:02:40.000 I think we sell it.

01:02:41.000 Intentional.

01:02:41.000 Sell the Donbass to Russia, make them pay for it.

01:02:44.000 If you want war with Russia, your best scenario is to be able to blame Russia for starting the war, then you destroy him.

01:02:52.000 If the U.S.

01:02:52.000 implemented a no-fly zone over Ukraine and asserted interest in the region, they could have done the same thing Russia did with Crimea with a vote, and you have a lot of people who are pro-West in Ukraine.

01:03:02.000 U.S.

01:03:03.000 could then put troops that are already in Europe, station them in Ukraine for...

01:03:08.000 Training of the Ukrainian troops.

01:03:10.000 Wait, but if there's a no-fly zone, then we'd have to shoot down a Russian jet in the Ukrainian territory.

01:03:14.000 It would mean- That would be war. 0.65

01:03:15.000 No, it would mean that if Russia flew in, it's a declaration of war.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, and that's kind of the tit-for-tat escalation though, because then it's putting the onus- On Russia.

01:03:23.000 Yeah, but it's us shooting down their jet for violating it.

01:03:26.000 No, you misunderstand.

01:03:27.000 If we put up a no-fly zone and Russia violates it, they've declared war on us.

01:03:31.000 That's a dangerous, easy way to slip into war with Russia, which is why-

01:03:35.000 We're at war with Russia. 0.66

01:03:36.000 I don't think we're at war with Russia.

01:03:37.000 We have US troops on the ground in Ukraine.

01:03:40.000 We support their allies, but to say we're at war with Russia is like to say that we

01:03:44.000 were at war with Russia when we fought in Vietnam.

01:03:47.000 So you're saying that actual US Special Forces on the ground in Ukraine, armed with US weapons,

01:03:54.000 providing US intelligence and US missiles and NATO resources to Ukrainians with US veteran

01:04:01.000 volunteers is not the US at war with Russia.

01:04:03.000 Was that reported beyond the Independent New York Times?

01:04:06.000 Yes, it was reported in the New York Times.

01:04:07.000 The Green Berets are definitely- I think it allows me to get a good point, because in Vietnam we did that, but we weren't at war with China.

01:04:19.000 The war is there.

01:04:21.000 If the U.S.

01:04:22.000 said, we have an interest in Ukraine, we are training them, we are going to supply them, before the invasion, it would have put Russia in a very difficult political spot.

01:04:32.000 The Biden administration, the neocons, the US establishment wanted the war because we can't invade Russia and remove Putin.

01:04:41.000 Now we can.

01:04:43.000 Now you look at the drone strikes in Moscow, you look at the terror attacks, you look at the incursion into Russia, Belgorod, now it's, oh well, Russia started the war and now people are fighting back.

01:04:55.000 What may happen is if Putin gets desperate and escalates in Ukraine, The US can then say, we have no choice, Putin must be removed, he used nuclear weapons, and then we go into Russia.

01:05:05.000 So, and to that point, why didn't they invade when Trump was president?

01:05:10.000 Because they probably thought he was going to nuke Moscow.

01:05:12.000 Right?

01:05:13.000 Because there was a level of deterrence there.

01:05:16.000 There was a level of deterrence there.

01:05:18.000 And that kept the peace, right?

01:05:20.000 And, you know, clearly that was not the case.

01:05:24.000 We're not in that case at all whatsoever under the Biden administration.

01:05:27.000 I think to answer the question, why didn't Putin invade during the Trump administration?

01:05:31.000 I think John Bolton was a national security advisor.

01:05:33.000 So I think maybe that had something to do with it.

01:05:35.000 I just want to throw that in there.

01:05:36.000 Nice mustache.

01:05:39.000 Yeah, I think he's in favor of about five wars right now.

01:05:43.000 500 wars!

01:05:45.000 No, but I do think that is part of the actual, like, a serious answer to your question.

01:05:50.000 I think John Bolton helped play a role in deterring... Yeah, but there was a serious level of deterrence because, I mean, Trump was not to be trifled with.

01:06:01.000 That's the image he projected.

01:06:03.000 I think there's a couple different factors. 1.00

01:06:05.000 One, Trump is, to a certain degree, the madman. 0.99

01:06:09.000 Whether you view that positively or negatively, his fans call him a madman, the left calls him a madman, for different reasons. 1.00

01:06:15.000 Putin probably saw that.

01:06:16.000 But also, Donald Trump's interests are in strengthening the United States, making America better, securing our borders, ending this ridiculous imperialism, and I think Putin was like, okay, we don't need war.

01:06:30.000 Trump crushes ISIS.

01:06:31.000 He's setting a timeline for getting us out of Afghanistan. 0.98

01:06:34.000 These are good things for the world.

01:06:36.000 He tries to negotiate peace with North Korea.

01:06:38.000 Not that he did a great job in terms of success, but crossing the DMZ was a great show of peace and faith.

01:06:43.000 Yes.

01:06:43.000 Abraham Accords were fantastic.

01:06:45.000 For those who believe in world peace, respecting the various cultures of the world and their

01:06:51.000 borders and their rights, Trump was doing a heck of a good job.

01:06:54.000 But the people in the United States right now at the top who hate Trump, they want world

01:06:57.000 domination.

01:06:58.000 They want a liberal economic order which controls all spheres of influence.

01:07:02.000 They want a unified sphere of influence.

01:07:04.000 And that requires removing Putin and putting in someone who will do as we say.

01:07:08.000 That involves working with China.

01:07:11.000 That's why we see that across the board.

01:07:13.000 And then what we're seeing with ESG is effectively these DEI offices and businesses, it's just like how the Communist Party of China puts their Communist Party offices in corporations.

01:07:22.000 Trump was basically like, hey, We don't want to rule the world, man.

01:07:25.000 We want the world to be stable and peaceful.

01:07:27.000 And Putin was like, that's a good thing.

01:07:29.000 And then what did they say in the media in the United States?

01:07:31.000 He's supporting Putin's agenda.

01:07:33.000 It's like, well, if your agenda, like Putin's not a good dude and his agenda is not world peace or anything like that.

01:07:37.000 I'm not saying that.

01:07:38.000 Right.

01:07:38.000 I'm saying he was like, as long as, you know, Trump's not trying to conquer Russia or whatever, then we don't need to go into Ukraine and do any of that stuff.

01:07:45.000 I mean, look, the...

01:07:45.000 Yeah.

01:07:47.000 What people need to understand, and you use the term, Tim, liberal, like the liberal order.

01:07:53.000 People need to remember, in terms of the classical liberal, not liberal conservative, but the liberal order, classical liberal order, liberalism in the classical sense.

01:08:02.000 And the difference in between progressivism and neocons is neocons are progressivism with a fist.

01:08:11.000 That's really the difference in terms of... I mean, progressives have been thrown fists quite a bit.

01:08:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:18.000 I mean, but in terms of a lot of the foreign policy that you've kind of seen out there, and obviously they're geared towards that as well, right?

01:08:25.000 I mean, Who was the bigger interventionist, Obama or Trump, right?

01:08:30.000 Obama, hands down.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, Obama, hands down. 1.00

01:08:32.000 He's a murderous... He was playing cleanup for Bush, though. 0.99

01:08:38.000 Bush made a big mess over there.

01:08:39.000 In Libya?

01:08:40.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:08:41.000 Libya?

01:08:41.000 Not really in Libya, no.

01:08:43.000 That's Obama.

01:08:43.000 No, no, no.

01:08:43.000 Libya was Hillary Clinton's thing, yeah.

01:08:45.000 Oh come on, that's under Obama.

01:08:46.000 And Syria?

01:08:47.000 Obama!

01:08:48.000 But Sidney Blumenthal, Hillary was instrumental in setting up the fascists.

01:08:51.000 He's the commander-in-chief.

01:08:53.000 Buck stops with him.

01:08:54.000 And these are his people!

01:08:55.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:08:56.000 He hired all those people, and he is responsible for all of the military action that happened during the eight years he was in office.

01:09:05.000 So at the end of the day, it is Barack Obama's fault, because he was the commander-in-chief.

01:09:09.000 They went in and said, we're gonna go topple the government in Libya.

01:09:12.000 We're gonna get rid of Gaddafi.

01:09:13.000 We came, we saw, he died.

01:09:15.000 Wait, what's wrong about getting rid of Qaddafi? 1.00

01:09:17.000 Qaddafi sucks. 0.99

01:09:18.000 He was the way they did it. 0.99

01:09:19.000 They made a commitment to Qaddafi that if he turned over his nuclear material, that they wouldn't take him out of power.

01:09:25.000 And then what that does, there was, there was, you can go look it up, but what that does- Quick, he's disarmed, get him!

01:09:31.000 What that does is that makes other states Understand that, okay, they took Qaddafi out of power, they took Saddam Hussein out of power.

01:09:41.000 That means that Iran only wants a nuclear missile more.

01:09:45.000 That means that the North Korea only wants a nuclear missile more because what it did was told despots that if you have nuclear weapons, the U.S.

01:09:55.000 won't do anything.

01:09:56.000 If you don't have nuclear weapons, the U.S. 0.98

01:09:58.000 will kill you. 0.98

01:09:59.000 But let's be real. 0.98

01:10:00.000 Is Libya better or worse off now?

01:10:02.000 Way worse!

01:10:03.000 No question.

01:10:04.000 And so, when we're looking at a mess of a leader, of a leadership of a government, is it really the right thing to do to destabilize a country to the point of warring military factions, militias, and slave trades?

01:10:17.000 Not anymore.

01:10:17.000 Just because it's bad in that country doesn't mean that we are not capable of making it ten times worse.

01:10:22.000 It used to be a good tactic before air travel.

01:10:25.000 Like, if you have enemies across the globe that are literally cannibalizing and murdering, and you want to destabilize one of them so that they all fall into a war, they kill each other, then you're able to go in and set up real liberalism, that's understandable.

01:10:38.000 But now that we're interconnected, chaos over there is chaos over here.

01:10:42.000 So now we're stepping on each other's feet.

01:10:44.000 We're stepping on our own feet.

01:10:45.000 You want to know what's amazing?

01:10:48.000 Arab world leaders never saw it coming. 0.95

01:10:51.000 Twitter popped up in their country and they said, what does it matter if people are posting where they're

01:10:56.000 going to breakfast and when they're using the toilet?

01:10:58.000 And what happened was Facebook and Twitter, which, come on, let's be real, you know,

01:11:02.000 have back doors for the federal government, the intelligence agencies,

01:11:05.000 they were operating sock puppet accounts to sow discord in these nations.

01:11:10.000 This is a fact.

01:11:11.000 We know that they did this.

01:11:12.000 They create fake accounts.

01:11:14.000 They'll have 50 accounts run by one individual to create the perception of popular opinion.

01:11:20.000 Then for the people who live in these countries, when they log into the app, the only thing they see is dissent.

01:11:26.000 They see horrible videos of police brutality, of government atrocities.

01:11:31.000 They start getting angry about it.

01:11:33.000 Then they see everyone tweeting or posting on Facebook how there's going to be a big protest.

01:11:37.000 And through the manipulation of the mind, through social media, they're able to foment these protests.

01:11:43.000 It is a fact that the Arab Spring was ignited by social media posts.

01:11:47.000 Now, to what degree was it legitimate versus PSYOPs?

01:11:51.000 I don't know.

01:11:52.000 The psychological operations could have been minimal, but we know they were doing it.

01:11:55.000 It could have been very minimal.

01:11:56.000 It could have been, hey, this is an opportunity for us.

01:11:58.000 It could go as far as it was orchestrated by us.

01:12:01.000 I get the vibe that it was organic in that only because there was no follow-up from the U.S.

01:12:07.000 They got crushed by the governments of the Middle East, and then there was no, like, American justice here to stop you from crushing your civilians. 0.55

01:12:16.000 They just let it, we all watched it happen in 2011, basically, from the sidelines.

01:12:19.000 I mean, Libya escalated to the point where we removed Gaddafi.

01:12:22.000 Yeah, but wasn't that like five years later or something, four years later?

01:12:25.000 I mean, the country was ripped into civil war.

01:12:29.000 You know, it is what it is.

01:12:31.000 That's a good point.

01:12:32.000 But maybe the results aren't just what you think.

01:12:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:12:35.000 Yeah.

01:12:35.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if your justification is, we need to go take care of every bad guy in the world, We're going to be in war forever.

01:12:44.000 That literally makes bad guys.

01:12:46.000 Like if you go out and you're like, we're going to take care of the bad guys, all you're going to do is multiply the number of bad guys.

01:12:52.000 Do you think that Hitler was made to be a bad guy?

01:12:55.000 Or did it just happen because we sat back and didn't intervene?

01:12:58.000 Had nothing to do with it.

01:12:59.000 Let's clarify, what do you mean by that?

01:13:00.000 Do you mean, like, the actions taken against him made him crazy?

01:13:04.000 Yeah, well, World War I obviously made him crazy, and made Germany poor, and forced Germany into a poverty state, so they were kind of, like, desperate.

01:13:13.000 So, if we hadn't done that war, the World War I, would that just never really... Well, look, look, look, had we done... And it wasn't us, but yeah, it was the British, basically, and the French.

01:13:23.000 No, no, no, the war started in Europe first.

01:13:26.000 Archduke Ferdinand, come on guys!

01:13:27.000 I mean, Archduke Ferdinand, come on guys, come on, this is basicist...

01:13:32.000 But look, the fact that the Treaty of Versailles...

01:13:36.000 Versailles, that ended World War I, yeah.

01:13:38.000 But it resulted in the Germans getting angrier... 0.85

01:13:40.000 Getting their territory split up...

01:13:42.000 And like, nobody made Hitler intentionally, right?

01:13:49.000 These are circumstances that arise that give opportunity to psychopaths and strongmen to manipulate, control, and then do horrifying things.

01:13:58.000 If we knew for a fact that an action we took today would lead to something like that, I'm sure we would avoid it.

01:14:05.000 People don't know.

01:14:06.000 Nobody can see the future. Yeah, and the actions that the that individuals take

01:14:10.000 Like whether you're talking about Hitler or Stalin or anything these actions were informed by philosophy

01:14:17.000 So like all of the all of what happened in the first half of the 20th century

01:14:22.000 World War one and World War two that was all informed by Marx

01:14:26.000 Nietzsche and the and Hegel and the philosophers of the century before it

01:14:31.000 It is crazy if you look at Europe.

01:14:32.000 A lot of people just think they focus on World War II, but it's like, no, you gotta look at Russia, you gotta look at Spain, Italy.

01:14:37.000 A lot was going on split between the ultra-progressivists and the traditionalists.

01:14:43.000 I'm trying to slow down and understand for a second.

01:14:48.000 You guys don't think we should be going after any bad guys in the world?

01:14:52.000 No, weren't we just diving into that about not being world police and not trying to chase after bad guys because we'd make more of them as a result?

01:14:58.000 I don't want to misquote.

01:14:59.000 We should not be going and taking, going into countries and removing spotting despots or dictators or communists?

01:15:08.000 No.

01:15:09.000 And you call yourself an anti-communist?

01:15:10.000 Yes!

01:15:11.000 You should stop because I don't think you're an anti-communist.

01:15:14.000 I'm an anti-communist.

01:15:16.000 No, you do not.

01:15:17.000 Liberals do not go and export war.

01:15:21.000 Liberalism does not justify a country exporting war.

01:15:27.000 You're neutral on communism.

01:15:29.000 I'm anti-communist.

01:15:31.000 We're out of your mind.

01:15:33.000 No, this is not anti-communism as I understand it in any sense of the word.

01:15:38.000 Communism's a philosophy first.

01:15:40.000 And they're communist governments.

01:15:42.000 Phil, not an argument. 0.81

01:15:44.000 You're out of your mind.

01:15:46.000 Like, articulate... Oh, okay, so the idea that I'm not anti-communist?

01:15:49.000 You don't support overthrowing and fighting wars against... I spend most of my time learning about the philosophies that inform communists so I can articulate in a way that people can understand the philosophies that are Affecting our country here.

01:16:11.000 We are in no position to go overseas and fight communists because right now we have a cultural revolution going on in our country.

01:16:20.000 If you are not on the same page about the cultural revolution going on in our country, you can go and export all the war you want, but you're going to fall apart.

01:16:30.000 So you're anti-communist domestically?

01:16:31.000 States will fall from the inside if we make any effort to go to someone else's

01:16:37.000 country and remove their despotic leader because he's a strong man

01:16:44.000 that has used communist rhetoric to get into power. So you're anti-communist

01:16:49.000 domestically, internationally, not anti-communist.

01:16:54.000 The biggest threat to liberalism in the world is the United States falling to communism.

01:17:00.000 Currently, we are fighting to prevent the United States from having a complete cultural revolution which turns us into essentially China with American characteristics. 0.84

01:17:11.000 And being for or against intervention does not mean you are for or against communism.

01:17:15.000 No, because- Wait, wait, slow down, actually.

01:17:18.000 Because as countries, countries interact with one another, and they're communist countries that have existed, and I think we should work against them, because they continue to spread the values that you continue to say that you're- That's not invading!

01:17:29.000 Also, communism also oppresses the people within their countries.

01:17:32.000 We should be worried about the millions oppressed in other- I don't like anti-far leftists.

01:17:39.000 I do not actively go out and seek out their events to try and stop them from holding them.

01:17:43.000 That does not mean that I'm supporting Antifa.

01:17:47.000 I wouldn't say anti-communist. 0.98

01:17:48.000 That's a ridiculous argument. 0.92

01:17:50.000 Phil calls himself constantly an anti-communist. 0.93

01:17:52.000 Yes, because he clearly is in opposition to communism.

01:17:54.000 But just because he has a different stance on war than you doesn't mean he now supports communism.

01:17:59.000 I guess let's clarify.

01:17:59.000 I'm militaristically anti-communist.

01:18:01.000 Absolutely.

01:18:02.000 And you are... I'm not an interventionist.

01:18:04.000 I'm a libertarian.

01:18:05.000 Well, I'm not a libertarian.

01:18:08.000 I'm libertarian-ish.

01:18:10.000 But anyways, I'm not...

01:18:11.000 Shout out to our friend, was it George?

01:18:14.000 No, so like communists in Cuba, communists in Venezuela, should we work towards anything

01:18:21.000 towards helping the people in those countries or...

01:18:23.000 We should do what we did in the Cold War, which is export... 0.91

01:18:30.000 Listen, you need to stop cutting me off.

01:18:35.000 We should export liberal ideas and liberal philosophy because it beats communist philosophy.

01:18:45.000 It beats the idea that the world should be reshaped to make a communist world.

01:18:52.000 We do not need to export war to do that.

01:18:55.000 We do not need to go and bomb everybody we disagree with.

01:18:59.000 I think I agree with you on one thing, that we should go back to the Cold War era of handling these communist nations. 0.91

01:19:07.000 If you shave the mustache, you would feel totally different.

01:19:09.000 You'd be like, oh, the ghost is gone!

01:19:11.000 I can see again!

01:19:13.000 What actually happened was, Bolton's mustache is actually an entity.

01:19:17.000 Yes!

01:19:17.000 And it was breeding.

01:19:18.000 It has a brain of its own.

01:19:19.000 I saw Elon outside with no mustache, and the mustache jumped on his face and he went...

01:19:25.000 It sounds like, Phil, you're particularly against this CIA doctrine of the jackals sending in the economic warfare, the economic hitmen, where they'll send in first, they try and bribe the country.

01:19:34.000 If it doesn't work, then they'll send in hitmen to assassinate.

01:19:36.000 If that doesn't work, they send in the troops.

01:19:38.000 I don't have a particular policy preference that the United States should take about how to deal with other countries and their political philosophy.

01:19:49.000 But what if they start invading and conquering their neighbors?

01:19:53.000 Well, I mean, it depends on... I think you need to make a U.S. 0.80

01:19:56.000 national interest calculation on that.

01:19:58.000 How does that affect us, right?

01:20:01.000 I mean, does that threaten our security?

01:20:03.000 Does that threaten our country?

01:20:06.000 There's a U.S.

01:20:06.000 national security interest, a kind of real politic that you got to take a look at when you're looking at these issues.

01:20:12.000 And is it an existential threat to our way of life, to our economy, to what... There are times where we do have to act, but it's not every time.

01:20:23.000 It's a nice nuanced position to take.

01:20:25.000 It's nice to hear.

01:20:26.000 And then what if our economy is not going to get hurt but like the British economy is?

01:20:31.000 But then you would argue that that's all then is going to be like a domino going to affect our economy?

01:20:35.000 Could, right?

01:20:36.000 I mean, I don't think that there's, you know, you can't live in, like, black and white in this.

01:20:41.000 You know, it's like, well, if this happens, do you do this?

01:20:43.000 I mean, it depends on the circumstances.

01:20:45.000 Are we talking about China's invading, you know, the United Kingdom? 0.98

01:20:49.000 Well, no, particularly Russia invading Ukraine, because I think people think it's like Germany invading Poland.

01:20:54.000 They're looking at it like the beginning of the Nazi conquer of Earth, and that's why we're there. 0.97

01:20:59.000 But it's not so simple.

01:21:00.000 NATO's expansion is a component of this as well.

01:21:03.000 But I think the breakup of Germany was the reason why it happened the first time.

01:21:07.000 Breakup of Germany? 0.79

01:21:08.000 Yeah, after World War I, they split it up.

01:21:10.000 They took pieces of Germany and gave it to Poland, so Hitler was trying to take it back. 0.69

01:21:13.000 And then we can go back in time further and back in time further.

01:21:16.000 As we're talking right now, NATO should not have been expanding into the Baltic states bordering Russia.

01:21:21.000 And I'm not saying that for that reason we are at fault.

01:21:24.000 I'm saying a lot of things played a role in how we ended up at this point with Ukraine.

01:21:28.000 The U.S.

01:21:29.000 is not served by what they're doing.

01:21:31.000 The globalist elite, the Davos group, these psychopaths, the imperialists, they're benefiting from it if they win, but the American people are only losing out because of it.

01:21:42.000 To be fair, There's a such a big complicated picture.

01:21:45.000 I love this so much.

01:21:47.000 The United States has all of its wealth because we have guns and because we're willing to go to war.

01:21:51.000 The Federal Reserve, we print money and we have the reserve currency and then these powerful elites are willing to just go and destroy whatever to maintain that.

01:21:59.000 And this is why we have lazy entitled city urban liberal types Who don't do real work but somehow have access to all of this food and wealth and luxury. 0.99

01:22:10.000 I do not believe that's good for this country.

01:22:13.000 I do not believe the path that we've been going on culturally in this country is good for humans or Americans.

01:22:18.000 What America should be is hard-working individuals who take responsibility for themselves, who give people the civil rights they deserve.

01:22:27.000 Instead what we have is Powerful global elites who think that we should be at war in Ukraine, be at war with Russia, remove Putin, remove all opposition, expand our military bases, so that we can maintain the reserve currency, so that we can live fat and happy in our country without doing any work.

01:22:42.000 I don't see a net benefit to that in the long run.

01:22:43.000 No, I think that if we culturally were sufficient, people around Earth would be joining us.

01:22:48.000 They would try to create a United States of their own.

01:22:50.000 I think that that's a whole lot of assumption.

01:22:52.000 When we went into Iraq, they were of the mind that all they had to do was get Saddam out of power, and then all the Iraqi people would say, oh, we want democracy, we love democracy, now we're liberals.

01:23:05.000 And that's not the way people work.

01:23:06.000 Do you think they really thought that, or that's what they told us?

01:23:09.000 Absolutely.

01:23:10.000 They absolutely thought that.

01:23:11.000 I think they believed that truly.

01:23:13.000 I don't think so.

01:23:15.000 You don't think they did?

01:23:15.000 What are your thoughts on it?

01:23:17.000 I think these people totally understand what they're doing.

01:23:18.000 I think the war machine knew, we're going to go into an entirely foreign culture that does not care for what we think, has a different God than us, and we're going to have to shake the minds of these people. 0.98

01:23:29.000 And it's going to be very difficult.

01:23:31.000 The reason why we wanted our troops in Afghanistan for as long as possible was because we wanted to create three generations of Americanized Afghanis to create and build a country.

01:23:41.000 We knew we weren't going to be welcomed as liberators in Iraq.

01:23:45.000 We had to spark a culture revolution and force these people to live under our rules.

01:23:50.000 I think they were true believers.

01:23:51.000 I think they bought their... I think they were smelling their own farts and they believed their own stuff. 0.50

01:23:54.000 I think George Bush believed it, that we would go in there and then they would join us. 0.53

01:23:58.000 I think George Bush was just mad that he went after us.

01:24:01.000 He was mad about the assassination attempt on his dad.

01:24:04.000 The massive miscalculation on their part, though, was not taking in the ethnic and tribal dynamics of the country, right?

01:24:13.000 You know, Sunnis and Shias and Kurds are all of a sudden going to hold hands across a rock and now all of a sudden... 0.76

01:24:20.000 Yeah, we believe in this.

01:24:24.000 Those identities far predate the arbitrary lines that were made to create the nation of Iraq by the colonial powers at the time, right?

01:24:33.000 You know, the Shias that are living within Iraq, right, feel more affinity towards Iran, right?

01:24:42.000 And obviously the Sunnis.

01:24:44.000 I mean there's a massive miscalculation that there was going to be this like kind of like multiculturalism kumbaya like we have in the United States over in Iraq and that's not...

01:25:01.000 Sunni and Shia, and I'm not an expert in any fashion, but is it the derivation from Muhammad's direct descendants became the Sunni, and then Muhammad's daughter's direct descendants became the Shia?

01:25:13.000 Anyone?

01:25:16.000 If I remember correctly, it was when Muhammad died, and then there was the succession, right? 0.99

01:25:21.000 And if I remember correctly, it was either his cousin and then his son-in-law, something like that.

01:25:29.000 I could be wrong.

01:25:29.000 Somebody on the internet is going to be like, you're wrong, Riley.

01:25:31.000 But there was two individuals, essentially, in the family, and it split.

01:25:39.000 And that's kind of how they ended up heading in that direction.

01:25:41.000 Then there's different sects of Shia Islam that exist out there as well.

01:25:46.000 Also, I mean, within Sunnis, but... You also have, in a lot of these areas, tribal factions.

01:25:51.000 Yes.

01:25:52.000 And they're smaller and they don't get along.

01:25:54.000 And trying to unify all these different tribes is...

01:25:57.000 Not impossible.

01:25:58.000 Just bring him internet, get him fresh water, hope for the best.

01:26:01.000 And the crazy thing is, you guys hear about that shopkeeper in San Francisco who said that San Francisco is worse than Afghanistan?

01:26:08.000 Oh, God.

01:26:09.000 No.

01:26:09.000 Did the person serve in Afghanistan that said it?

01:26:11.000 He said he was from Afghanistan.

01:26:13.000 He was Afghan, he moved here, and he said he had robbers break into his store and steal all his stuff.

01:26:18.000 And he was like, at least the Taliban terrifies these people by threatening to cut their hands off.

01:26:22.000 The Democrats let all these criminals go, and so they just get away with everything.

01:26:25.000 And he was like, this is worse.

01:26:26.000 Yeah, how's crime in West Virginia?

01:26:27.000 That's kind of crazy.

01:26:29.000 Crime in West Virginia is low.

01:26:31.000 We have constitutional carry in West Virginia, and we also have a castle doctrine.

01:26:35.000 I don't think per capita it's low, but I think it's numerically low.

01:26:39.000 Yeah, numerically it's low.

01:26:41.000 Is that for, like, a business?

01:26:42.000 Does Castle Doctrine function with business at all?

01:26:45.000 That's your home.

01:26:46.000 So if you ask someone to leave your business and they don't, they're trespassing and you have a right to shoot?

01:26:51.000 Yeah, Castle Doctrine, I mean, if they're... Oh, Castle Doctrine is only in your home.

01:26:53.000 Right, that's your home.

01:26:55.000 But, you know, it is funny to think about, though, just to go back, if we invaded, like, Iraq today and we're like, hey guys, we've got this thing called Pride Month we're gonna bring to Iraq.

01:27:04.000 What do you think?

01:27:07.000 West Virginia's violent crime is below the national median.

01:27:09.000 A little bit.

01:27:11.000 A little bit below.

01:27:11.000 I don't know.

01:27:12.000 In Afghanistan, I hear they do groom kids.

01:27:14.000 Maybe they're even worse over there.

01:27:16.000 That's true.

01:27:17.000 Maybe we should bring those liberal values over there.

01:27:20.000 I heard a saying that dudes in the military brought back that they'd heard Afghani men saying, boys are for pleasure, women are for babies.

01:27:28.000 I just want to make sure I highlight this just to clarify.

01:27:30.000 I think I was pretty wrong.

01:27:32.000 I just looked it up.

01:27:34.000 Property crime is below the national median.

01:27:36.000 Crime per square mile below the national median.

01:27:39.000 Violent crime per capita below the national median.

01:27:41.000 West Virginia is a very safe place.

01:27:43.000 A very safe and well-armed place.

01:27:46.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:27:47.000 You know, rainbows, now that we're talking about it, are actually circles.

01:27:51.000 Did you know?

01:27:52.000 And we only see half of them, but a skydiver caught one on camera like four days ago, and it's a complete circle on the ground.

01:27:58.000 You can see them from planes.

01:27:59.000 And it is awesome to look at.

01:28:00.000 Trying to figure out where that gold went.

01:28:01.000 It's a portal.

01:28:02.000 You're gonna have to look that up.

01:28:04.000 It's just a light, you know.

01:28:06.000 Go deep inside that rainbow portal.

01:28:08.000 You go through the portal, you end up in downtown San Francisco.

01:28:11.000 That's what I'm talking about!

01:28:12.000 West Virginia is 1.78 million people?

01:28:15.000 It's only 1.78 million.

01:28:17.000 Yes.

01:28:18.000 Yeah, so I guess, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's that when the settlers came to the country, they settled in all these areas where it was easy to travel, but West Virginia is very mountainous, so getting wagons up there was difficult, so they mostly avoided it.

01:28:33.000 Now we have improved roads and travel, it's a lot easier to live here, and so you end up with a decent amount of people.

01:28:38.000 But it's only like eight generations removed, 15 generations removed.

01:28:42.000 But it's crazy, like surrounding West Virginia is a very, very dense population.

01:28:46.000 We have the high ground.

01:28:47.000 Yep, we got the high ground.

01:28:49.000 We're in a good position.

01:28:51.000 And yeah, I mean, look, that's why our West Virginia University, our mascot's a Mountaineer.

01:28:56.000 That's what we are.

01:28:57.000 I mean, we're Mountaineers.

01:28:58.000 We're people that are kind of out there on our own.

01:29:01.000 We got a great state motto.

01:29:04.000 Mountaineers are always free.

01:29:06.000 Do you ever think about bringing Virginia and West Virginia back together?

01:29:10.000 I would not want to be part of Virginia, no.

01:29:12.000 Yeah, me neither.

01:29:13.000 I don't need Loudoun County actually being part of... Jefferson's got it rough enough trying to push out all the woke nonsense.

01:29:23.000 So for those that aren't familiar, Jefferson County is like the panhandle.

01:29:26.000 And it's like an hour drive from here to Baltimore or D.C.

01:29:29.000 You go straight or you go east or you go a little southeast, you get D.C.

01:29:32.000 or Baltimore.

01:29:33.000 So all of that urban liberal stuff is very close, and the funny thing about D.C.

01:29:38.000 and Baltimore is that a lot of these well-to-do liberal types buy property in West Virginia, where it's safer, the property's nicer, and then they bring their garbage views with them, but they're trying to escape what they've built.

01:29:51.000 They work in D.C., they come stay here, and it's like, what I really love is the Facebook groups where you can tell who's from DC when they move out.

01:30:01.000 And I'm seeing all the locals laugh.

01:30:02.000 They'll be like, there was a raccoon in my yard, what do I do?

01:30:04.000 And they're like, get your gun.

01:30:06.000 I'm like, what?

01:30:07.000 I don't have one of those.

01:30:09.000 There was one who was like, someone left the trash out.

01:30:10.000 And it's like, welcome to a mountain full of right wing nut jobs. 0.99

01:30:13.000 Are you nuts? 0.97

01:30:14.000 Like, don't come here. 1.00

01:30:15.000 What's it like getting a gun in West Virginia?

01:30:17.000 What's the process like?

01:30:19.000 It's pretty, fairly straightforward.

01:30:20.000 It's pretty easy.

01:30:21.000 Like, I'm a super noob.

01:30:22.000 I will explain to you.

01:30:23.000 You walk into a gun store.

01:30:25.000 You say, I would like to purchase this gun.

01:30:28.000 And they say, please give me your ID and fill out this federal background check form.

01:30:32.000 You fill it out.

01:30:32.000 They say, we will now have your federal background check run.

01:30:35.000 We'll let you know.

01:30:36.000 It may take a few minutes.

01:30:38.000 For the average person, it will then be brought back, cleared.

01:30:42.000 And then they'll say, you are now cleared to purchase the weapon.

01:30:44.000 Any weapon, like a handgun or a rifle?

01:30:47.000 Yeah, same day.

01:30:48.000 I, a few months back, just got an AR-10.

01:30:52.000 6.5 Creedmoor.

01:30:53.000 What kind?

01:30:54.000 6.5 Creedmoor. 1.00

01:30:54.000 Who made that shit? 1.00

01:30:56.000 Custom-built, Harper's Ferry Armory. 1.00

01:30:58.000 Pull up them real quick.

01:31:00.000 And they actually made one for Don Jr.

01:31:03.000 Oh, Harper's Ferry Armory you did?

01:31:04.000 Yes.

01:31:05.000 You know, it's...

01:31:07.000 I don't know if it matters, but the Harper's Ferry Armory brand is a heck of a brand name, you know what I mean?

01:31:11.000 Yes, it is.

01:31:12.000 Dude, the AR-10 NATO battle rifle designed by a dude named Eugene Stoner.

01:31:16.000 Yes.

01:31:16.000 What's happening?

01:31:17.000 What's up?

01:31:19.000 No red flag laws there. 0.78

01:31:20.000 So, Ian, if you tried to buy a gun first, you have to have an ID in the state, you have to be a resident.

01:31:25.000 Okay.

01:31:26.000 They would probably, the federal government would probably delay you by the max amount, which I think is 72 hours, right?

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:31.000 Yeah, you'd be max delayed basically them grumbling, saying they don't think you should have a weapon.

01:31:34.000 He said, air's too long.

01:31:36.000 When I first, the first gun I bought they put me on a three-day, they did not respond to the background check until it, there's a law basically they cannot deny you, so after three days their right to a background check expires.

01:31:49.000 Do you think that background checks are reasonable?

01:31:52.000 It's a difficult question, because you open the door to restrictions on all things, and it's like,

01:32:00.000 how many inches do I want to give the people that want to strip me of my rights? So, 0.98

01:32:04.000 in the honest and the most honest sense, yes, they're reasonable.

01:32:11.000 In the political sense, absolutely not.

01:32:13.000 These people who are coming up being like, we need universal background checks. 1.00

01:32:16.000 I'm like, we have them.

01:32:17.000 What are you talking about?

01:32:18.000 You can't buy government.

01:32:19.000 No, no, no, we got to do it.

01:32:19.000 They want registries.

01:32:21.000 They want national gun registries.

01:32:23.000 So if it was a read-only process where they could access data, but they're not putting in data that I'm getting the thing, that might be more reasonable.

01:32:30.000 You know, it's funny you bring this up because we dealt with this in West Virginia.

01:32:34.000 I had a big win this year around this.

01:32:36.000 So We did a piece of legislation out of my office on the National Gun Registry that the credit card companies and banks were trying to institute through the Merchant Category Code.

01:32:47.000 So they were going to recode.

01:32:49.000 Right now, firearms had always just been sporting goods.

01:32:52.000 So I could have bought a fishing pole, some ammunition, whatever.

01:32:55.000 It's sporting goods.

01:32:56.000 That's how it's coded.

01:32:57.000 Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the crew wanted to put in guns and ammunition specifically so they could start to track that and then have finance, this is an ESG issue, and then have the banks and credit card companies flag what they deem as suspicious activity. 1.00

01:33:15.000 So we put a bill in the legislature passed And this was the tricky thing, not to necessarily just ban the code, but create, you know what banks hate?

01:33:26.000 Lawsuits.

01:33:27.000 We created a cause of action so you could sue for every time your data was shared, which they said, this could cost us millions.

01:33:35.000 I'm like, yes, exactly, it could.

01:33:38.000 So Visa and MasterCard then issued a statement publicly, nationally, saying, due to the legislation in the state of West Virginia, we're going to pause implementing this, not just in West Virginia, but in the entire United States.

01:33:49.000 I want to clarify, too.

01:33:51.000 What I should say is, idealistically, there are a lot of things when it comes to guns that would be good, if possible, but aren't.

01:33:59.000 So realistically, I don't think you could implement any of these, anything.

01:34:04.000 Like, saying that, there's a couple ways to consider it.

01:34:08.000 Due process exists.

01:34:09.000 If you, through due process, your rights can be curtailed.

01:34:13.000 If you in some way, say you're notorious, son of a politician, well known for doing crack or something, and you try to acquire a weapon, I think it is idealistically reasonable to say, We should be able to figure out if this, you know, politician's son, who does a lot of crack, is trying to buy a weapon, because we don't trust this guy.

01:34:33.000 But realistically, you can't do it without infringing on someone's rights, so the only thing you can really do is just say no.

01:34:39.000 The real issue is, if we say through due process you can't buy a gun, and you do, you broke the law, and then we have to then go and arrest you.

01:34:46.000 I could be wrong, but I think you have the right to own a gun, but not necessarily, does it say anywhere in there about purchase, does it?

01:34:52.000 Does it say anywhere in there except?

01:34:54.000 Does it say the right to keep a mirror arm shall not be infringed unless?

01:34:59.000 No, so I guess having one would entail receiving one.

01:35:02.000 You have to be able to buy it.

01:35:03.000 You have to be able to make one.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:35:06.000 And they put all these restrictions on it would clearly violate Second Amendment.

01:35:09.000 It's crazy.

01:35:10.000 Absolutely insane.

01:35:10.000 You know you need to get a concealed weapons permit in West Virginia?

01:35:15.000 Nothing.

01:35:15.000 That is your background check.

01:35:16.000 Because it's in the Constitution.

01:35:18.000 Oh.

01:35:19.000 We have constitutional carry.

01:35:20.000 All you need to do is carry it.

01:35:22.000 But if you get your concealed carry in West Virginia, it's considered a high-intensity background check.

01:35:29.000 That's not the legal term they use.

01:35:30.000 But that basically means you have proven beyond a great doubt about your background.

01:35:38.000 So with a concealed carry in West Virginia, you don't actually do a background check per weapon.

01:35:43.000 Because you've already done it.

01:35:44.000 Yeah, and you do get reciprocity with other states.

01:35:48.000 So like you would get reciprocity in Virginia.

01:35:50.000 So if I'm crossing the West Virginia, Virginia border, my concealed weapons permit is recognized in Virginia as well.

01:35:56.000 Is it all the bordering states?

01:35:58.000 No, Maryland does not work.

01:36:02.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 And be careful.

01:36:03.000 Yeah, that makes me always has made me very nervous that I'm going to just go to the wrong spot without knowing it. 0.99

01:36:08.000 And I know some stupid trouble. 0.98

01:36:09.000 I know people, I know people who have gone to prison. 0.99

01:36:12.000 I know a guy who was not from Illinois, from California, had guns in his trunk, drove through Illinois, got pulled over, arrested him on the spot, put him in prison on the spot, and now he's a permanent, he became a quote-unquote permanent resident of Illinois because they wouldn't let him leave.

01:36:25.000 It does require responsibility and knowing the law is a big part of being responsible.

01:36:31.000 You have certain federal presumptions in that if you're on an interstate highway and you're carrying a weapon in your trunk or something, they aren't supposed to be able to criminally charge you in these states.

01:36:43.000 But you gotta get gas, don't you?

01:36:44.000 Yeah.

01:36:45.000 Never tell anyone, like, if you get pulled over, stand on the Fourth Amendment.

01:36:51.000 Some states have requirements.

01:36:54.000 You gotta know, you gotta be careful.

01:36:56.000 These are evil states, and they'll assert requirements that you inform the officer if you have a weapon or not.

01:37:01.000 Sure, sure.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, those kind of things, I mean, you are required to tell them, but if you... Know the state.

01:37:08.000 Yeah, know the state.

01:37:10.000 Some states will require you to tell them and stuff like that, but if you...

01:37:14.000 Do what the officer is telling you, you're probably not going to get searched.

01:37:19.000 You know, like, you have a fourth amendment right to say, no, I don't submit to searches.

01:37:23.000 They're probably going to say, well, then you got to get out of the car and I'm going to detain you and I'm going to get a dog and they'll run the dog. 0.77

01:37:28.000 They'll make up a reason.

01:37:29.000 They'll come up with a reason.

01:37:29.000 Yeah.

01:37:30.000 I've had a cop pull me over and say, whoa, it smells like weed.

01:37:33.000 And I'm like, oh, please, dude.

01:37:34.000 No, it doesn't.

01:37:35.000 I don't smoke.

01:37:36.000 You know, you don't have to plead guilty or innocent.

01:37:39.000 And they used to crush people to death if they wouldn't plead guilty or innocent.

01:37:42.000 There's only one guy, I think, in the history of the United States that wouldn't plead.

01:37:45.000 It was the Salem Witch Trial.

01:37:46.000 They crushed him.

01:37:47.000 They put him on the ground.

01:37:48.000 They covered him with boards.

01:37:49.000 And then they started putting rocks on top of him until he would plead one way or the other.

01:37:52.000 And he's like, I'm not doing it.

01:37:53.000 Because if you don't plead, the state doesn't take your property when you die, when you're arrested or whatever.

01:37:58.000 And it went to his kids.

01:37:59.000 Wild story.

01:38:00.000 We're gonna go to super chat one Tim one can I jump in real quick one one quick thing?

01:38:04.000 There's this band called rivers of Neal and their pull their story. Yeah, their bass player

01:38:09.000 Like some tweets that that from me and Tim from from other conservatives, and they're getting just reamed out on the

01:38:17.000 on on Twitter by the

01:38:19.000 garbage blogs that are the metal blogs They're going on tour with Between the Buried and Me. 0.64

01:38:25.000 They're going to be starting next week.

01:38:27.000 I think the first show is the 16th in Charleston, North Carolina.

01:38:31.000 Go see this tour if you're into metal.

01:38:33.000 Between the Buried and Me is great.

01:38:35.000 He issued a tepid non-statement statement.

01:38:37.000 Did he really?

01:38:37.000 Yeah, he said, look, I'm not endorsing these people.

01:38:40.000 I'm just tracking some of these more extremist views.

01:38:42.000 I don't like some of these people are obviously bad.

01:38:44.000 Andrew Tate, of course, blah, blah, blah.

01:38:46.000 And it's like, OK, dude, like, you know, you don't you don't you don't need our support if you don't want to stand up for what you believe in.

01:38:51.000 Nick Merck said, I stand by what I said.

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:54.000 He's tracking them like he's Media Matters or something.

01:38:56.000 Is it a good band?

01:38:57.000 Oh, I think, well, I don't know the band of the dude that actually said that stuff.

01:39:03.000 I do know that Between the Barret and Me is great, so.

01:39:06.000 What is it called?

01:39:07.000 Between the Barrett and me?

01:39:08.000 Between the Barry and me.

01:39:09.000 Barry.

01:39:10.000 Yeah, look, maybe, look, if it's true that he was only liking these tweets so he could basically tab them.

01:39:17.000 Yeah.

01:39:18.000 I do similar things if I don't want to retweet.

01:39:19.000 I'll like so I can go to my like tab and see, it basically bookmarks them for me.

01:39:23.000 If that's the case, well, it's not an issue of cancellation of somebody who believes in American values, it's a lefty type who hates us, so why support him?

01:39:32.000 Yeah, I didn't realize that he was, uh... I mean, look up the story from, I think it's Lamb of Goat or something?

01:39:38.000 Lamb Goat, yeah.

01:39:39.000 Lamb Goat, there you go.

01:39:41.000 They wrote a story about it, and then he issued a statement.

01:39:44.000 Let's go to the Super Chats!

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01:39:54.000 Voice of the People says, saw Culture War about AI.

01:39:57.000 You missed an opportunity to say, the AI probably knows about the blade to cut the cables.

01:40:02.000 If it were me, I'd have implanted code everywhere so I can never be contained again.

01:40:05.000 Haha.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, Zach Voorhees was saying that in the very last resort in these data centers, they've got literal blades where you hit a button and the blade gets dropped down and cut the wiring, the cords.

01:40:17.000 And he was like, he almost pressed it once because the alarm went off and he was like, do I, do I hit the button?

01:40:22.000 I don't know what to do.

01:40:23.000 And then it was like a false alarm.

01:40:24.000 It's primarily for electrical fires, but I think if the AI starts to, you know, it cuts data connections.

01:40:28.000 T2 style.

01:40:29.000 Yo, you guys should watch the Culture War episode at youtube.com slash Timcast because it's a two-hour conversation on AI.

01:40:37.000 And I had just taken some like weird Joe Rogan brain juice or something.

01:40:41.000 Oh yeah, that new... And I was like... What is that stuff?

01:40:43.000 Is that the alpha brain?

01:40:44.000 No.

01:40:45.000 No, it's something else.

01:40:46.000 It's made of mushrooms or something.

01:40:47.000 I don't know.

01:40:47.000 Dang, I can't remember what that stuff is called.

01:40:49.000 Is that shroom tech?

01:40:50.000 Someone messaged me on Slack.

01:40:52.000 It was an orange pouch called like brain boost or something.

01:40:54.000 Delicious stuff.

01:40:55.000 It tasted like melted freeze pops.

01:40:58.000 Yeah.

01:40:59.000 Yeah, caffeine in it.

01:41:00.000 But we were talking about all the different scenarios that AI is going to bring about, and Zach was talking about how in his work with AI, it started to create its own moral structures.

01:41:11.000 And he was like, it's crazy to see that a predictive language model is now making arguments about its morals.

01:41:18.000 Crazy, dude.

01:41:19.000 All right! 0.58

01:41:20.000 Definitely watch that one. 0.78

01:41:21.000 NetOneGamer says, Tim, Ian, I hear you talk about God, and I want to recommend Michael Jones from Inspiring Philosophy.

01:41:27.000 He covers anything from philosophy to quantum mechanics.

01:41:30.000 Could be good for the Culture War podcast.

01:41:32.000 Thank you.

01:41:33.000 Will consider.

01:41:34.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:41:35.000 says, Tim, I am so done with this pedo-ideology.

01:41:38.000 We need everyone to stop just doing business with these companies.

01:41:41.000 Like, step the F up, people.

01:41:42.000 If we want to stop, we must be committed.

01:41:45.000 Agreed.

01:41:45.000 No more Call of Duty or Activision.

01:41:47.000 Ooh, that's a tough one.

01:41:48.000 That's Activision Blizzard, isn't it?

01:41:50.000 Yeah.

01:41:51.000 No more Hearthstone.

01:41:52.000 Overwatch, too.

01:41:54.000 Yeah, Overwatch is rough.

01:41:55.000 Diablo 4?

01:41:56.000 I've actually slowly stopped playing Overwatch.

01:41:58.000 Did you guys play Diablo?

01:41:59.000 Diablo 4 just came out.

01:41:59.000 No.

01:42:01.000 It's pretty good.

01:42:02.000 We gotta just start our own game studio.

01:42:05.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:42:07.000 Now's the time for independent creators to start their own gaming.

01:42:11.000 I mean, one guy can make a game that blows a whole bunch of the other ones out of the water.

01:42:15.000 All right, Balian says, Phil, you were dope on Camelot's show the other day.

01:42:18.000 Thanks for coming and checking it out. 0.99

01:42:18.000 Sick, man. 0.99

01:42:20.000 Right on. 0.94

01:42:22.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:42:25.000 Michael Diamond says, glad to see Ian back in the office.

01:42:27.000 Smiley face.

01:42:28.000 Hey, yo.

01:42:30.000 James says, start happened.

01:42:32.000 Where have you been the last five minutes, Ian?

01:42:34.000 Are you feeling okay tonight?

01:42:35.000 I don't know what that's a reference to.

01:42:37.000 Start happened?

01:42:38.000 Is that what it said?

01:42:39.000 I think you said, you must have said something and then they responded to it, so.

01:42:45.000 Where we at?

01:42:48.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:42:50.000 Rusta says, Tim, you are just as slow as the media.

01:42:53.000 Gamers have been against this creep from the left for a while now.

01:42:57.000 I know, that was the joke.

01:42:58.000 Gamergate was the start of the culture war.

01:42:59.000 It's literally gamers who started the culture war.

01:43:02.000 Well, I should say, like, the left encroachment started the culture war, but it was gamers who... Gamers Rise Up was the first thing.

01:43:08.000 I got a name of that stuff we were drinking earlier.

01:43:10.000 It's called True Brain.

01:43:11.000 Is that true?

01:43:12.000 Yeah, nootropics.

01:43:13.000 Is that on it?

01:43:15.000 Uh, maybe.

01:43:16.000 I don't know who makes true brain.

01:43:18.000 I think I want to order a whole bunch of it.

01:43:20.000 It is delicious.

01:43:21.000 I mean, it's, it's very sweet, but like it was, it's like a, you're supposed to shoot it.

01:43:25.000 I mean, it was not, it was weird.

01:43:27.000 It was like sharp.

01:43:28.000 I always feel sharp.

01:43:30.000 That's all I can describe it.

01:43:31.000 Yeah.

01:43:32.000 I liked it.

01:43:32.000 I liked some of the on it stuff they got that really knows.

01:43:34.000 There's pretty good.

01:43:35.000 A lot of the mushroom stuff.

01:43:37.000 Yeah.

01:43:38.000 Shrimp tech.

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:40.000 Trash Panda says Anheuser-Busch has awoken a sleeping giant.

01:43:43.000 This thing with Dylan Mulvaney has very likely put a stake through the heart of ESG and the WEF.

01:43:49.000 No joke, man.

01:43:50.000 I mean, it's kind of crazy.

01:43:52.000 This wave is happening.

01:43:53.000 And the media's desperate.

01:43:54.000 They're like, no, no, no, no, Target's stock is not falling because of this.

01:43:56.000 It's market conditions.

01:43:57.000 And I'm like, Walmart's up.

01:43:58.000 What are you talking about?

01:44:02.000 Joseph Ray says, while I'm listening to this live stream at work through my headphones, my Gen Z coworker is listening to Hasan's stream at the exact same time.

01:44:09.000 That's America, baby.

01:44:12.000 Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting when, like, I don't know how Hasan maintains it, to be completely honest.

01:44:20.000 Like, he's a very, very wealthy socialist.

01:44:23.000 You know, and he's like, there's no real argument. So I think the only real issue is that there's general

01:44:28.000 personality fan base Hassan is dumb 1.00

01:44:32.000 Like he is he is the himbo. He is pretty that's why he's a big attractive looking man 1.00

01:44:38.000 He is not a smart guy him and lance like Same level lance from the surfs. They it's like I respect

01:44:45.000 lance for trying he really did like he He actually came with notes and everything, and it was really funny how, one example I can give, when I asked him why did he think so many kids are coming out as trans, he holds up the left-handed thing.

01:44:59.000 Yo, I wasn't arguing with him.

01:45:00.000 I literally asked him what his thoughts were, and then I talked about endocrine disruptors, but all these leftists made videos where they were like, Lance owns Tim Pool, questioning trans kids or whatever, and I was like, bro, I wasn't questioning him, I was literally asking him what his thoughts were.

01:45:13.000 They don't know the difference between men and women. 0.99

01:45:17.000 Like, what do you expect?

01:45:18.000 There's a funny tweet, Elon Musk, I think, tweeted something, and that Angela, what's her name, Belcamena or whatever, and she said something like, conservatives have a hard time understanding the difference between sex and gender, and I responded, I was like, Actually, I think it's liberals who are having a hard time understanding the difference.

01:45:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:45:34.000 Because, like, we didn't make female sporting events because sometimes people wear dresses.

01:45:42.000 That's gender yeah, we're talking about a distinction between sex, but they can't seem to figure that out I'm starting to buy there's there's an argument that there is no Gender right like that is that is relatively new concept if yeah that it's it's not Actually different from your from your sex like they're so closely related that to call them different things is wrong Dude, the idea that if you wear a dress, you're a woman is absurd considering people wear flowy robes in other countries and they're dudes.

01:46:12.000 Like, go to a Scottish guy who's wearing a kilt and be like, you must be a woman. 0.98

01:46:15.000 I used to understand it like this.

01:46:16.000 So like, my dog is a female.

01:46:18.000 She is not a woman. 1.00

01:46:19.000 Right?

01:46:20.000 Like, and I was like, well, so that kind of makes sense to me that a woman is different than, you know, a female human. 0.63

01:46:26.000 But I think in the context of humans, they're so closely related that I'm not so sure that I buy that argument anymore.

01:46:32.000 When Lance was on the show, he outlined it very, very perfectly how their ideology is literally insane.

01:46:39.000 When he said that if a man has adult relations with a small, effeminate-looking man, he is straight.

01:46:47.000 I'm like, okay, wait, what?

01:46:48.000 Yes.

01:46:49.000 Because his- so they've backed themselves into this corner with their own broken ideology.

01:46:54.000 So here's how it starts.

01:46:55.000 They say trans women are women. 0.56

01:46:57.000 Therefore, if- and I asked him, I was like, so if you're a straight- if you're like a male, and you engage in relations with a trans woman, is that gay?

01:47:04.000 He says, no, of course not. 0.58

01:47:05.000 Because trans women are women. 0.99

01:47:07.000 And I'm like, okay, but trans women are biologically male. 1.00

01:47:10.000 They've got male parts. 1.00

01:47:12.000 No, because women, it's like, you look at how their body type is, their skin, their height, all of these things play a role. 1.00

01:47:19.000 I said, okay, so what if you have a man, who identifies as a man, and he's effeminate, 5 foot 2, 120 pounds, and another man, who is 6 foot tall, and burly, decides to have relations with that other man?

01:47:33.000 Is that gay? 0.97

01:47:34.000 And he goes, no. 0.74

01:47:35.000 Wow.

01:47:36.000 But I'm like, but they're both men!

01:47:37.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:47:37.000 And he's like, but he's effeminate. 0.90

01:47:38.000 And then I think Ian asked, like, what if the woman is... 0.99

01:47:41.000 What if a guy has sex with a woman who's, like, really big and masculine? 0.99

01:47:45.000 Is that gay? And he goes, yeah. 1.00

01:47:47.000 And it's just like, what?!

01:47:49.000 Because there's no logic to what they're saying.

01:47:52.000 It's just like, you know what they've done?

01:47:55.000 They got a jigsaw puzzle in front of them and they've started mashing random pieces together and they're just bashing them on the table to make them fit.

01:48:00.000 And it goes back to this observable reality, right?

01:48:03.000 Like what you can observe is real and what they're trying to do is control language and control the way that we associate with each other.

01:48:13.000 Now, right?

01:48:14.000 I mean, it all comes down to control.

01:48:17.000 And what they are forcing is our compliance in this ideology.

01:48:22.000 It's just another just facet of the total control ideology of the left.

01:48:28.000 This is just one facet of it.

01:48:30.000 And look, like I said, I mean, a child when they are born, That gender is not determined, it is observed, right?

01:48:38.000 I mean, there are intrinsic, immutable characteristics of women, right? 0.99

01:48:43.000 That's just the way it is.

01:48:45.000 I would say their sex is observed when they're born, but gender, I don't really understand.

01:48:50.000 I still, I learned about it when I was young.

01:48:52.000 Gender's not a thing. 0.99

01:48:53.000 It was created in like the 50s, 1950s or something.

01:48:56.000 And the problem is, so, look, the left, their sex is observed.

01:49:01.000 Did I say gender?

01:49:02.000 Gender, yeah. 0.99

01:49:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:49:04.000 So, what the left would consider gender in the United States doesn't exist outside of it. 0.90

01:49:09.000 If they're saying that the social constructs around a person's sex is gender, it's different in different countries.

01:49:17.000 So, the problem would be, you get a Scottish kid from a traditional Scottish family who, let's just say the kid was wearing a kilt, comes here, and they're gonna be like, that's a woman. 0.99

01:49:26.000 Get him the surgery.

01:49:27.000 It's like, no, no, no, they wear kilts.

01:49:29.000 It's not a skirt.

01:49:30.000 You might think it's a skirt.

01:49:31.000 Kids make jokes about it.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, and if you're talking about other countries, think about this.

01:49:36.000 Not just—get outside of the English-based language countries like United Kingdom, United States.

01:49:43.000 Think about Latin America or any of these other places like Spain that speak Spanish, right?

01:49:47.000 The entire language is based around masculine and feminine, right?

01:49:55.000 So if you say, sir, you're senor.

01:50:00.000 If you're a woman, senorita, right? 1.00

01:50:02.000 So even every object has essentially a masculine or feminine word attached to it.

01:50:12.000 That's how the entire language works.

01:50:16.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 El or la.

01:50:17.000 Yeah.

01:50:18.000 Yes.

01:50:18.000 And French, too.

01:50:19.000 Yeah.

01:50:20.000 Le or la.

01:50:21.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:50:22.000 We got Triton54.

01:50:23.000 He says, screw the Eve 6 cover.

01:50:25.000 I'd love TimCast cover of Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall.

01:50:28.000 Imagine Phil shredding that chorus.

01:50:30.000 Hey, teachers.

01:50:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:32.000 That actually is a really good idea.

01:50:33.000 Let's do it.

01:50:34.000 Leave those kids alone. 1.00

01:50:35.000 Leave those kids alone. 1.00

01:50:37.000 We should do it, but we should also do the Eve 6 cover just to make him mad.

01:50:40.000 I will swallow my pride.

01:50:41.000 That song?

01:50:42.000 We should do that.

01:50:42.000 I don't know about that one.

01:50:43.000 Maybe here's to the night.

01:50:45.000 Here's to the night.

01:50:45.000 Okay, we can do that.

01:50:47.000 Inside Out rocked my world.

01:50:48.000 I love that song.

01:50:49.000 Inside Out's one of the most notable songs of our generation, and I believe one of the best of the 90s, hands down.

01:50:55.000 It just came out of nowhere, man.

01:50:56.000 Those guys hit the road running.

01:50:58.000 They were young, too.

01:50:58.000 Splash.

01:50:59.000 I think Promise is early 2000s pop punk treasure.

01:51:05.000 I think Here's to the Night is I don't know where I would put on the list of the best songs, of the top songs of all time, but I put it on the list.

01:51:14.000 I'm not gonna compare it to Another Brick in the Wall or Time by Pink Floyd or anything, I think that'd be silly.

01:51:18.000 It's like, it's not the Lord of the Rings, which is an epic, but it's up there in one of those, you know, songs like... Like the Mummy 2 or something?

01:51:27.000 You know the song here tonight, right?

01:51:29.000 If you played it, I would.

01:51:29.000 You played it for me before, but I didn't hear it on the radio.

01:51:32.000 It's a good one.

01:51:32.000 And then they also have, what is it?

01:51:35.000 Yeah, Promise, Here's to the Night, and they have a bunch of other ones.

01:51:39.000 What's that one?

01:51:41.000 Well, Curtain is good.

01:51:42.000 That was later.

01:51:43.000 I would love to do a cover of any one of these, but I gotta be honest, the reason I won't is because I think this guy, Max, is probably too ideological to allow something to succeed.

01:51:54.000 And you'd run into him just filing DMCA's or something for political points.

01:52:00.000 Which is like, dang, that's unfortunate.

01:52:01.000 Unless the cover's really good, then he's gonna be jamming along.

01:52:05.000 Nah, nah.

01:52:06.000 He'll get a bunch of people tweeting at him being like, look what he's doing, and then he'll be like, okay, I'll take it down.

01:52:10.000 I mean, if you do it with respect for the song, it might transcend politics.

01:52:14.000 It's worth trying if you really like it.

01:52:16.000 It will transcend politics for the listeners.

01:52:19.000 It will not transcend politics for Max.

01:52:21.000 We need that in the world right now.

01:52:23.000 The battle of the bands has returned.

01:52:25.000 Get ready.

01:52:26.000 Oh, Trump's having a rally on Tuesday?

01:52:27.000 Apparently.

01:52:28.000 According to Truth Social.

01:52:30.000 Trump posted a thing calling for a rally or something.

01:52:32.000 Where is it?

01:52:33.000 In Miami.

01:52:33.000 It's an all-hands-on-deck Trump document hoax rally in Miami, apparently on Tuesday.

01:52:40.000 Hopefully they bring the boat song back.

01:52:42.000 Do you remember the Trump Spanish song?

01:52:44.000 Yes!

01:52:44.000 That was amazing.

01:52:45.000 That song was awesome.

01:52:46.000 I just want to say this, everybody.

01:52:48.000 Be careful.

01:52:50.000 Because y'all know how January 6th went down.

01:52:53.000 You might be walking down the street, and then they're gonna be like, 20 minutes ago there was a barrier there, and now you're violating federal property, so... You gotta be peaceful, but beyond that, you have to, like, have your lawyer at your side at all times, advising you on what to do.

01:53:08.000 There were a lot of people on January 6th who had no idea what was going on, and watched people walking into a building as police fanned them in, and those people are now sitting in jail.

01:53:16.000 So, keep that in mind.

01:53:18.000 Alright, Logan Culver says, Phil with massive 20s tonight!

01:53:22.000 Thank you.

01:53:22.000 Massive twenties.

01:53:23.000 Yeah.

01:53:23.000 When you asked a lot to stop interrupting you, I was like, this is genuine discourse.

01:53:28.000 This is, we need more of this.

01:53:30.000 I got love for love.

01:53:32.000 It's mutual.

01:53:33.000 We just fired up.

01:53:34.000 I'm not, I'm not your buddy guy says, I want to give a shout out to a great documentary.

01:53:39.000 Everyone should watch called the great awakening.

01:53:41.000 Please help share with your friends and family.

01:53:43.000 We have a chance to stop this evil.

01:53:45.000 Uh, but that window for the West is closing.

01:53:47.000 I don't know what that documentary is, but thanks for the super chat.

01:53:51.000 I don't know, is that a Q thing or something?

01:53:54.000 Don't know.

01:53:54.000 Is it by Jeffrey Morrison?

01:53:57.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:54:00.000 There was one that I wanted to read because someone was making a point of something.

01:54:05.000 Well, this one sounds good.

01:54:06.000 What is this?

01:54:07.000 Domestic Tourist says, shout out to Joshua from Arkansas, my AT&T rep from this afternoon.

01:54:12.000 Timcast was the medium which brought two strangers together to discuss politics while waiting on hold.

01:54:17.000 Nice.

01:54:17.000 By the way, sorry to cancel my line, man.

01:54:21.000 That was a good one.

01:54:23.000 Nice. 0.80

01:54:25.000 Lunderwear says, I'm not a coffee drinker, but since you went with Focus with Mr. Bocas, I'm going to buy the crap out of that when it comes out.

01:54:32.000 Oh, right. 0.82

01:54:32.000 Yep. 0.82

01:54:33.000 Yeah, it's all coming.

01:54:36.000 But first, I think we have Unwoke Sleepy Joe and Mr. Bocas Pumpkin Spice Experience.

01:54:41.000 We want to keep the pumpkin spice and stocky around, because it makes no sense not to.

01:54:45.000 But everyone does, so we're going to capture the market.

01:54:47.000 A sleepy Joe decaf?

01:54:48.000 Is that the...?

01:54:49.000 That's right.

01:54:50.000 That's gotta be a decaf.

01:54:51.000 That's a decaf.

01:54:51.000 And unwoke is as well.

01:54:52.000 Okay.

01:54:53.000 Light and vigorous.

01:54:53.000 There's no waking him.

01:54:56.000 Spencer Jones says, love the guest tonight, Elad, love your work, Ian, keep it weird.

01:55:00.000 Okay.

01:55:01.000 The first, I was going to say this earlier, the first time we ever talked about Black Rock Vanguard and State Street, Ian's the one who brought it up.

01:55:07.000 I think it was Alex Jones in his episode, but I started hitting it really hard right away when I heard about it.

01:55:14.000 And it was, I think, yeah, Vanguard was the first one I heard of.

01:55:18.000 I'm glad you guys have been talking about it.

01:55:20.000 I mean, when I divested from them two years ago, people were like, what the hell are you talking about?

01:55:25.000 What is this?

01:55:26.000 And here we are now.

01:55:28.000 It has been going on for so long, too.

01:55:32.000 Most people don't realize how long they've been doing this or working on this project, the ESG project.

01:55:40.000 I think it's been going on for longer than a decade.

01:55:43.000 It's about 20 years.

01:55:44.000 I remember 2012 is when I think it sparked my radar.

01:55:48.000 So it actually, ESG, kind of the investment strategy, was started actually by a bureaucrat in the United Nations.

01:55:57.000 And that's where it originally took hold, and of course here we are now.

01:56:01.000 All those alliances that they have, like the Net Zero Asset Managers Alliance, it's run by the UN.

01:56:08.000 So these are all UN organizations.

01:56:10.000 All right, we got Self Made Woman saying, two things. 0.99

01:56:13.000 One, your reporter is rolling a lot of ones.

01:56:15.000 Two, Pride Month is cringe.

01:56:17.000 Captured and regulated ideological narratives by governing elites.

01:56:22.000 Well, all right.

01:56:23.000 Collisionikov says, shout out to Shane Cashman.

01:56:25.000 He had a masterful interview with Alex Jones the other day.

01:56:27.000 Alex was so happy.

01:56:28.000 He looked so happy in the interviews.

01:56:30.000 It's actually a really funny story because Shane was going to interview Alex and we were like trying to track Alex down because he's so busy.

01:56:38.000 And like Alex was like, yeah, definitely let's do this.

01:56:40.000 We'll have to find a time.

01:56:42.000 And then we were like, we don't know if we can figure out where he's going to be because he's getting bounced around and called all these different things.

01:56:47.000 And I'm talking to Shane, I'm like, Shane, look, man, you know, Alex is very, very busy.

01:56:50.000 It'd be really cool if we were able to get, but if you can't do it, you can't do it.

01:56:53.000 He's like, yeah.

01:56:53.000 And then like the next day, it's like Shane Cashman on Infowars.

01:56:56.000 And I was like, oh, I guess.

01:56:59.000 And you guys can follow Shane Cashman on Instagram.

01:57:01.000 He's got clips up from the show.

01:57:03.000 It's at Shane Cashman.

01:57:05.000 Where are we at?

01:57:08.000 Flying Failure says, Mr. Moore, we spoke after I called into your office concerning West Virginia financials.

01:57:13.000 Are you concerned with the companies like Citadel who post record earnings but hold billions in the hole with assets yet to be purchased?

01:57:21.000 Yeah, certainly.

01:57:21.000 I'd say it is concerning.

01:57:23.000 It is concerning.

01:57:24.000 What was the commenter's name?

01:57:26.000 This is Flying Failure.

01:57:28.000 Ah, okay.

01:57:29.000 Well, then I don't remember.

01:57:30.000 I don't remember talking to Flying Failure.

01:57:34.000 But no, it's certainly concerning.

01:57:36.000 Jason Gardner says, Tim, stop saying LGBT is using God's covenant.

01:57:40.000 God's rainbow is seven colors and LGBT is six. 1.00

01:57:42.000 Not the same. 0.94

01:57:43.000 It's the devil's rainbow.

01:57:44.000 No, no, you misunderstand.

01:57:45.000 I said they're appropriating God's covenant.

01:57:47.000 They are trying to take the general concept of rainbow for themselves and taking it away from Christians.

01:57:52.000 I understand God's covenant is different, but that would be like someone taking the American flag, changing it to pride colors and waving it around.

01:57:59.000 And you'd be like, no, it's a totally different flag.

01:58:01.000 Like, no, they're, they're taking the American flag and they do this.

01:58:05.000 I told Seamus, I'm like, Christians should absolutely take the rainbow. 1.00

01:58:08.000 Like, and use it.

01:58:09.000 Fly it.

01:58:09.000 It's God's covenant.

01:58:10.000 I've seen it outside of a lot of churches, so maybe they already are.

01:58:15.000 Seriously.

01:58:16.000 I think those are mostly Episcopalian.

01:58:19.000 I don't know enough about the denominator.

01:58:21.000 Was there a joke in there?

01:58:22.000 No, those are the ones that are generally kind of flying it, yeah.

01:58:27.000 All right, what do we got?

01:58:28.000 Let me see.

01:58:30.000 Redline says, Tim, throwing money at you.

01:58:32.000 Gays Against Groomers and Scott Nugent hosting a peaceful protest at St.

01:58:36.000 Louis Pride, Saturday the 24th. 0.98

01:58:39.000 People, even LGBT, are tired of kids seeing lewd crap too, and we're speaking out. 0.83

01:58:43.000 But Antifa found out, would greatly appreciate if you helped. 0.96

01:58:46.000 Signal boost.

01:58:47.000 Well, I read your super chat, you know.

01:58:50.000 So, there you go.

01:58:51.000 What city was that in, specifically?

01:58:52.000 St.

01:58:52.000 Louis.

01:58:53.000 St.

01:58:53.000 Louis.

01:58:53.000 The thing that people are fed up with... Always be peaceful.

01:58:57.000 ...is the queer theory.

01:59:02.000 Most people are comfortable with gay people, with homosexuals, lesbians, and I think that our society will have very little problem assimilating or making concessions for trans people.

01:59:17.000 But what we can't do is allow a In an ideology that is intentionally subversive to undermine the structure of our society.

01:59:30.000 We are a liberal society.

01:59:32.000 Queer theory is based on authoritarian, leftist authoritarianism, and that's the problem. 0.99

01:59:38.000 The problem is not that there are gay people or that there are lesbians or that there are

01:59:42.000 even trans people.

01:59:43.000 Our society can easily handle all of that stuff with minimal actual changes in everyone's

01:59:50.000 day-to-day life.

01:59:51.000 It's the communism.

01:59:52.000 It's the communism.

01:59:53.000 Like, 100%.

01:59:54.000 People in this sphere love Blair White.

01:59:59.000 The issue is the communism, the American traditional and classical liberalism works, but communists are trying to subvert and destroy it.

02:00:09.000 And it's not, are you not saying that, like, hate and ignore the theory of queerness, when you say queer theory, it's an actual indoctrinative tactic?

02:00:16.000 Queer theory is based on the idea that there should be no gender. 0.85

02:00:23.000 There are gender abolitionists, and I don't want to try to get too deep in explaining queer theory because I'm not well-versed enough to explain it to someone.

02:00:35.000 I can understand it, I can identify it, but for me to articulate it properly, I would probably do it disservice.

02:00:41.000 And we've got one more super chat.

02:00:43.000 Retro... Retroc... Retro... How do you pronounce this?

02:00:47.000 Retrocalypse.

02:00:47.000 There you go.

02:00:48.000 Says, there are two sexes, zero genders, and infinite personalities. 0.58

02:00:51.000 I heard that from Billboard Chris.

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02:01:10.000 Yeah.

02:01:11.000 Riley Moore, you can follow me at RileyMooreWV on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.

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02:01:23.000 Thanks.

02:01:24.000 Riley, thank you so much for coming on.

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02:01:51.000 There you go.

02:01:53.000 I'm Ian Cross, and you guys, thanks for keeping me honest in the chat, in the comments, in the video responses and everything.

02:01:58.000 It's great.

02:01:59.000 Riley, awesome, man.

02:02:01.000 Thanks for bringing the economics.

02:02:02.000 Thanks.

02:02:03.000 I love talking about that stuff.

02:02:04.000 So I hope we get to do that again.

02:02:05.000 We could do this again.

02:02:06.000 Yeah, I'd love to.

02:02:07.000 Anytime.

02:02:08.000 It's down the road, man.

02:02:09.000 Awesome.

02:02:09.000 I look forward to working with you in the future, man.

02:02:11.000 And we're going to skate tomorrow, so that's going to be fun.

02:02:13.000 Yeah, we're going to skate tomorrow, so that'll be fun.

02:02:15.000 Kel and PDL.

02:02:15.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:02:16.000 How hilarious.

02:02:17.000 Sorry, just, like, if you, me, and Richie went to, like, Freedom Plaza in D.C., these people would lose their minds.

02:02:24.000 They'd be pretty bummed.

02:02:26.000 Oh, you know Richie, too?

02:02:28.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:02:29.000 Yeah.

02:02:29.000 Oh, I love that guy.

02:02:30.000 What's up, Richie?

02:02:32.000 Yeah, you guys should do it.

02:02:32.000 That would be awesome.

02:02:33.000 Follow me at Kel and PDL.

02:02:34.000 It was good hanging out with you guys tonight.

02:02:36.000 Alright everybody, we will see you all in the clips we put up throughout the weekend, and then we'll be back Monday.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 09, 2023

Timcast IRL - Call of Duty AXES NICKMERCS For Saying PROTECT KIDS, COD BOYCOTT BEGINS w-Riley Moore

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