Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump Indictment BACKFIRES, Even Liberals Say ITS BUNK AND Will FAIL w-Dave Smith

00:00:00.000 So the indictment against Donald Trump is so laughably bad that tons of leftist media

00:00:29.000 Alex are even coming out being like, uh, this doesn't look like it's gonna hold any water.

00:00:33.000 Of course conservative outlets are calling it as it is, like, there's no real crime being committed.

00:00:39.000 It's beyond the statute of limitations.

00:00:41.000 But even CNN has said the other day, they're like, this is completely underwhelming.

00:00:44.000 Now we have Vox.com saying, is he actually going to get convicted of this?

00:00:49.000 Because there's no underlying crime.

00:00:52.000 Bragg said, I'm not required to present one, so there isn't one.

00:00:55.000 I'm just telling you there is.

00:00:57.000 How could that possibly fly?

00:00:59.000 This is the weirdest thing.

00:01:00.000 I mean, it reeks of desperation.

00:01:02.000 But the craziest thing is that Democrats are basically just deciding to, what, knock the pegs out from this country to just tear it down a little bit with these dubious charges?

00:01:11.000 Or maybe brag as the rogue prosecutor who's embarrassing himself.

00:01:13.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:14.000 Plus, we got a few other stories.

00:01:16.000 So we got RFK Jr.

00:01:18.000 is going to run as a Democrat opposing Joe Biden.

00:01:21.000 That will be interesting.

00:01:22.000 And then in North Carolina, You have a Democrat who just switched to the Republican Party, giving them a super majority in the state.

00:01:31.000 And yes, the left is losing their minds, because they're concerned now that child sex changes and abortion will be completely banned.

00:01:38.000 That's right.

00:01:38.000 A veto-proof majority in North Carolina.

00:01:41.000 So, while everyone's complaining that this ultra-far-left Supreme Court justice won in Wisconsin, and there's reason to be upset about it, You gotta look where the victories are, too, and just keep in mind it's not all negative all the time.

00:01:53.000 In North Carolina, a Democrat outright said, like, yo, I'm out.

00:01:55.000 I'm a Republican now.

00:01:56.000 So that's big.

00:01:57.000 We'll see how that develops.

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00:03:26.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all of this is Dave Smith.

00:03:29.000 What's up?

00:03:30.000 Good to be back.

00:03:31.000 So, who are you?

00:03:31.000 What do you do?

00:03:32.000 Oh, you know.

00:03:33.000 Libertarian Tupac, servant of the Mises caucus, reppin' the Ron Paul revolution.

00:03:38.000 Oh, alright.

00:03:39.000 Those are all good things.

00:03:40.000 Yeah.

00:03:41.000 That's me.

00:03:41.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.000 This will be interesting because it's seeing you talk about the indictment and everything, but coming from a libertarian perspective, it's funny how they often try and just accuse you of being like a Trump-supporting conservative.

00:03:55.000 Yeah, I mean, like, it's, you know, I get it from all angles like that.

00:03:58.000 I mean, I'm a sharp critic of Donald Trump.

00:04:01.000 Last time I was on the show, I mean, you talked a lot about that, and we kind of disagreed about it.

00:04:05.000 But I convinced you of everything, and now you agree with me, so... Yeah, no, I was right.

00:04:08.000 I was right.

00:04:09.000 Well, here, I'll tell you something I was wrong about, because as you guys know, I'm right about almost everything.

00:04:14.000 But you know what I was really wrong about?

00:04:15.000 I remember when they first put the special prosecutor on Donald Trump, when Robert Mueller was first assigned to him, I was just convinced, I knew obviously there was going to be nothing with a Russian conspiracy because I knew that was all made up, and libertarians know not to trust the CIA, but I really did think they would get him for something.

00:04:35.000 I was just like, the guy was a real estate developer in New York City.

00:04:39.000 He's got to have some dirt on him.

00:04:41.000 You can't rent an apartment in New York City without committing at least a misdemeanor.

00:04:46.000 I figured they'd find something.

00:04:48.000 And it is amazing that after all of this time, they still just have to make up a non-crime.

00:04:55.000 And then charge him with 32 counts of the same non-crime.

00:04:59.000 We'll get into that.

00:05:00.000 So thanks for hanging out.

00:05:02.000 This'll be fun.

00:05:02.000 Of course.

00:05:02.000 And maybe there'll be an announcement later.

00:05:04.000 It's unrelated.

00:05:05.000 I have no idea.

00:05:05.000 But Hannah Clare's hanging out.

00:05:07.000 Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.

00:05:08.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:05:11.000 How you doing?

00:05:12.000 I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist, and counter-revolutionary.

00:05:16.000 And I am not Ian.

00:05:17.000 He's not here, but... I was gonna say, and temporary Ian.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, temporary Ian.

00:05:21.000 Hopefully I will come up with some 20s.

00:05:24.000 If you could do us a favor and randomly interrupt the conversation with non sequiturs and talks of graphene, that would be greatly appreciated.

00:05:30.000 I can come up with some Ian stuff.

00:05:33.000 You're gonna be on talking about crystals duty for the night?

00:05:35.000 I mean, I've got them all in front of me, you know?

00:05:38.000 You need at least four crystal facts.

00:05:39.000 Come on, Phil.

00:05:39.000 Don't you have to, like, rub them on your...

00:05:41.000 Oh yeah, I could've brought my jade roller up.

00:05:43.000 He's rubbing Ian's crystal in his face and I can imagine Ian's watching going like, stop, no, don't!

00:05:47.000 Not that one, though!

00:05:48.000 Not that one!

00:05:49.000 No, Phil, that one's... That's not even what that crystal does!

00:05:52.000 Ian's pulling his hair out at home.

00:05:54.000 I apologize, Ian.

00:05:57.000 And I'm just watching all this go down.

00:05:59.000 Anyways, let's get started, guys.

00:06:01.000 So here's the first story from National Review.

00:06:03.000 Bragg's indictment even fails as an indictment.

00:06:07.000 And this is a really great piece from Andrew McCarthy, who's like, what a disgrace.

00:06:11.000 It's always possible to be surprised.

00:06:13.000 The indictment brought by Manhattan's elected Democratic District Attorney Evan Bragg against Trump is even worse than I'd imagined.

00:06:19.000 And here's the important part.

00:06:20.000 He says, he claims that the 34 counts, which warrant 136 years in prison, are because Trump was trying to conceal another crime.

00:06:29.000 What is that other crime?

00:06:30.000 We don't know.

00:06:31.000 Because Bragg says he doesn't need to present it.

00:06:33.000 It just is.

00:06:34.000 That's it.

00:06:36.000 He was orange!

00:06:38.000 That's the crime!

00:06:39.000 Well, he's like, Trump lied in running for office.

00:06:42.000 It's like, about what?

00:06:43.000 I don't gotta tell you because it's not a requirement.

00:06:45.000 That's not the point.

00:06:45.000 And federal campaign contributions was a crime.

00:06:47.000 And they were like, the feds did not charge him with a crime over anything.

00:06:50.000 You have no jurisdiction here.

00:06:51.000 He's doing it anyway.

00:06:52.000 But here's the best part.

00:06:54.000 Here's the satisfying icing on the cake.

00:06:57.000 Vox.com wrote, Yesterday, the dubious legal theory at the heart of the Trump indictment explained, no one knows if Donald Trump can be prosecuted for the hush money payment.

00:07:06.000 The actual original title of this article was, will Trump actually be convicted?

00:07:11.000 They don't even think so.

00:07:12.000 It's fascinating to see CNN be like, uh, there's nothing here.

00:07:17.000 No new facts.

00:07:19.000 It's, it's what everyone already knew.

00:07:20.000 And Their brag is doing it anyway. 0.98

00:07:24.000 So I gotta say, like, okay, you know, maybe we'll end up sitting back, and what's really happening is this moron of a DA steps out from a local office and embarrasses the Democratic Party nationally, and Trump is playing the game because he knows every step of the way it's humiliating to them. 0.98

00:07:42.000 Yeah it is it's it's really something to see man and you know like as I said before even as a sharp critic of Donald Trump for other reasons not like the stupid ones but this is just look the guy was just objectively this is a guy who was as sitting president for Framed for treason like framed for treason by his own deep 0.97

00:08:02.000 state. Yeah a real-deal attempted coup They all knew he was not involved in a conspiracy with 0.78

00:08:07.000 Russia Nobody at the CIA or the FBI actually believed that none of

00:08:12.000 them believed Carter Page was a Russian agent They knew he was a new for them the CIA told the FBI that

00:08:18.000 he was an informant for the CIA and then the FBI Said on their FISA court application that the CIA

00:08:25.000 corroborated that he had talked to the Russians But they left out the part that then he came right back to the CIA and informed them of this.

00:08:33.000 So this is, it is, I don't know for sure if this Soros-backed DA is like in on some grand conspiracy.

00:08:40.000 he might be, but there is no question that what Donald Trump laid out in his speech last

00:08:44.000 night is exactly right. 0.93

00:08:46.000 That they've tried at every single turn to get him for the most ridiculous things.

00:08:50.000 And like, probably like Phil, like, I'd be fine if they wanted to get him for any of

00:08:53.000 his real crimes that he did commit, like all presidents commit, like real violations of

00:08:58.000 international law, illegal bombing of Syria, illegally starving the people of Yemen.

00:09:03.000 Fine.

00:09:04.000 Charge them for that.

00:09:04.000 I'll cheer if you do.

00:09:05.000 The problem is that that would implicate Joe Biden and Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and George Bush and Dick Cheney, and so they're not gonna do that, and so they gotta go after him for this stuff.

00:09:16.000 I think they should, uh...

00:09:18.000 I think they should.

00:09:19.000 I mean, you know, they indicted Trump and it's fair game now.

00:09:22.000 So what I said the other day is that any conservative DA in Colorado or the San Diego area, wherever Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki lived, there's no statute of limitations on murder.

00:09:31.000 So they could indict Barack Obama for the murder of Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.

00:09:36.000 Or even Anwar Al-Awlaki, for that matter, who was his father.

00:09:39.000 Look, he was radicalized and he swore allegiance to Al-Qaeda, but when you're an American citizen, You have to be charged with the crime, and then you have to be convicted of that crime.

00:09:51.000 You don't get to just say, this guy said he's with them, so I murdered him.

00:09:56.000 And the one that's more damning about Anwar al-Awlaki in a way, even than his, what is his kid, 14 at the time?

00:10:01.000 16.

00:10:01.000 16?

00:10:01.000 Yeah, I think 16.

00:10:04.000 But the one that's more damning in a sense is that they admitted that he was the target.

00:10:08.000 So they try to pretend that the kid wasn't the target, but they admit that Anwar al-Awlaki was the target of that strike.

00:10:13.000 So, Barack Obama murdered an American citizen with no charges against him.

00:10:18.000 Barack Obama murdered an American citizen and he got no charges, and the deep state turns their head all the time.

00:10:26.000 I would love to have you talk with Destiny, the Omni-Liberal, because you know what his response was when he was here?

00:10:31.000 He was like, well, he's the president, he has great deference when it comes to war.

00:10:34.000 And I was like, not killing American citizens In countries we are not at war with.

00:10:40.000 By what standard does he have this?

00:10:42.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:10:43.000 According to the United States Constitution... The I can talk a mile a minute standard.

00:10:49.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.96

00:10:50.000 The Congress has to declare war. 0.63

00:10:52.000 And they haven't in like... Since World War II.

00:10:55.000 So all these military authorizations are completely unconstitutional.

00:10:58.000 And then there's also international law, which says you can't just bomb sovereign countries.

00:11:02.000 Can we just go back a second?

00:11:03.000 Because you said something I think was important.

00:11:05.000 Isn't it amazing that the Deep State and the Democrats framed our democratically elected president as a traitor and foreign agent?

00:11:17.000 They framed him as this, and it's like, that is the normal course of action now for this country?

00:11:23.000 That's crazy.

00:11:24.000 The Deep State framed a sitting president for treason.

00:11:29.000 They also blew one's brains out on national television, so it's not like Matt knew of a president.

00:11:35.000 Tucker Carlson comes out and he's like, didn't he basically come out and say JFK was assassinated by the CIA or whatever?

00:11:41.000 Yeah, he said a guy who, you know, an anonymous source who had seen firsthand all the redacted documents basically confirmed it to him.

00:11:49.000 Now do with that what you will, but there's a, I mean, you could go down that rabbit hole.

00:11:53.000 There's a lot there.

00:11:54.000 I'll also say the Nixon thing.

00:11:56.000 Really stinks if you look into it.

00:11:58.000 Like what was it?

00:11:58.000 I think two of the four people who broke into Watergate were like CIA connected.

00:12:03.000 Just saying there's a lot of shady stuff in the past.

00:12:05.000 But what's really interesting about Donald Trump is that Donald Trump, although I will criticize him for not following through with a lot of his rhetoric that was pretty good on some of this stuff, Donald Trump was the first presidential candidate or I should say the first successful presidential candidate who won in any of our lifetimes who ran Yeah.

00:12:25.000 unapologetically in opposition to the deep state yeah i mean like he ran saying that like we were lied into

00:12:31.000 war in iraq saying that obama created isis saying all of these things that

00:12:35.000 work kind of true

00:12:37.000 i mean obama certainly funded isis i would uh... and and so he'd made enemies of the deep

00:12:42.000 state in a way that none of these other presidents

00:12:45.000 when i remember watching the uh... debates when trump told uh... who detail jeb bush or whatever

00:12:51.000 When he was like, your brother lied us into war or something like that.

00:12:53.000 It was the South Carolina debates, yeah.

00:12:54.000 I was like, whoa!

00:12:57.000 It was pretty unreal, that moment of standing in front of South Carolina Republicans.

00:13:04.000 at the primary debate and telling the whole crowd that the last Republican president not like led

00:13:10.000 us into a bad war or something like that lied us into a war where a million people died like

00:13:15.000 basically saying he he should be you know like arrested or whatever and I remember that day

00:13:21.000 all the pundits were like well he blew it yeah I mean, he really blew it.

00:13:25.000 That ain't gonna play in South Carolina.

00:13:27.000 And the next day was the South Carolina primary.

00:13:30.000 Donald Trump took 60% of the vote and the other 11 split the 40 amongst themselves.

00:13:35.000 Wow.

00:13:37.000 It's so amazing.

00:13:38.000 Yeah.

00:13:38.000 Well, so you're now a MAGA Trump supporter all the way now, I hear.

00:13:44.000 I said he should be convicted for war crimes. 0.95

00:13:46.000 I'm just saying, get all of them.

00:13:48.000 But he shouldn't be convicted for paying off a hooker and not itemizing it on his taxes. 0.80

00:13:53.000 Amazing that you... That's what it is! 1.00

00:13:55.000 The only thing that you get in trouble for is good bullshit. 0.99

00:13:58.000 They're claiming that... This is what's funny. 0.99

00:14:02.000 Uh, imagine you, Dave, have a carpenter buddy who is remodeling your garage.

00:14:08.000 And it's an attached garage, so you know, you want to put like a loft on the second floor of it or something.

00:14:13.000 And he goes to the store and he buys burglar's tools and he robs a jewelry store.

00:14:17.000 And then he sends you a bill for the construction in your garage and it's just itemized as construction and you pay it.

00:14:24.000 And then one day the feds come to your house and say, you were actually buying him burglar's tools.

00:14:28.000 And you're like, what?

00:14:29.000 Well, you've got a payment here that went right to him.

00:14:32.000 You were paying him every month, and you were like, yeah, he's a carpenter in my garage.

00:14:35.000 You're like, mmm, I bet he bought burglar's tools.

00:14:37.000 That's the Trump indictment.

00:14:39.000 Michael Cohen, according to his own lawyers, paid Sturmey Daniels of his own volition with no reimbursement out of his own pocket.

00:14:45.000 Donald Trump was paying legal bills to Michael Cohen and they just decided, Bragg says, eh, he was probably reimbursing him.

00:14:52.000 We just say that.

00:14:53.000 And it's even weaker than your analogy because there's no actual crime committed to it.

00:14:59.000 Like it's not a crime to pay someone to not talk about something.

00:15:02.000 Like to come to an agreement with someone, if I give you this money you won't talk about this.

00:15:06.000 And it's not a campaign finance violation.

00:15:08.000 The reason why he hasn't been tried federally is because there's already precedent for this with John Edwards, where they tried to say that, oh, you paying off your side piece is a campaign finance violation.

00:15:18.000 The problem is that the logic of that is like, oh, it would have hurt your campaign.

00:15:23.000 So therefore, it's a campaign finance, you know, or a campaign expense piece.

00:15:27.000 But the problem with that is that There's also lots of other non-campaign-related reasons why you might want to, like, he might just not want his wife to find out.

00:15:37.000 And you can't say anything that would make you look bad is a campaign expense, or otherwise anything that makes you look good should be a campaign expense, too.

00:15:47.000 You should be able to charge your campaign for a new convertible, because you're like, I look good when I drive this.

00:15:52.000 The whole thing makes no sense at all.

00:15:55.000 Did you watch Alvin Bagg's press conference?

00:15:57.000 Yeah.

00:15:57.000 He got pressed by these reporters saying, you know, your predecessor wouldn't prosecute this.

00:16:01.000 This has been thrown out a couple of times.

00:16:03.000 Why are you moving forward with it?

00:16:04.000 And he didn't really have any answer to that.

00:16:06.000 He was just like, well, he's committed crimes, 34 of them, I guess.

00:16:11.000 Like, there was no explanation because there's not one, right?

00:16:14.000 Yeah, he was asked by a reporter, in order for this to be elevated to a felony, there has to be an underlying crime.

00:16:19.000 What is that crime and why didn't you include it?

00:16:21.000 And he goes, the law does not require me to.

00:16:23.000 Which is not true.

00:16:24.000 The law that he's invoking says that it's a crime to lie on your business records in service of another crime.

00:16:33.000 So it has to be connected to another crime.

00:16:35.000 He's just trying to play this down.

00:16:37.000 He's arguing it is, but it doesn't say there that I have to tell you what that crime is.

00:16:41.000 Right. 0.82

00:16:41.000 So, I mean, it's just so freaking absurd. 0.82

00:16:44.000 And then the Sixth Amendment basically says we have a right to confront our accusers and understand the charges and a speedy trial and all that jazz.

00:16:50.000 Not now in the Bragg's courtroom.

00:16:51.000 He says none for you.

00:16:53.000 That's why I've just been saying, like, I mean, I should have been saying this years ago when they, as you pointed out, framed our democratically elected president as a foreign agent and traitor to this country.

00:17:05.000 Perhaps I should have been saying, the country ended in 2016.

00:17:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I'd go 1913, but sure, wherever you want to start it, creation of the Federal Reserve.

00:17:15.000 But I'll say that it's even to me, who's like, you know, I'm pretty against this entire establishment and against every inch of the US federal government.

00:17:26.000 I thought I was surprised that they crossed the line once he was president.

00:17:31.000 I thought it was a crazy line to cross to frame the presidential candidate, Donald Trump, for treason, but when they actually, you had them doing it to the sitting president, even to me, I was like, wow.

00:17:43.000 They're actually going to do this to this guy.

00:17:45.000 And look, they didn't remove him from office.

00:17:48.000 They floated around that idea.

00:17:49.000 And in fact, Andrew McCabe, who I believe was the number three at the Justice Department, he talked about this in his 60 Minutes interview, where he says, before they suck Robert Mueller on Donald Trump, they all in the Department of Justice, in the FBI, debated invoking the 25th Amendment.

00:18:06.000 They were like, maybe we could just remove... He says this.

00:18:08.000 You can go find his words on camera.

00:18:10.000 That they thought about, well, we could just remove him.

00:18:13.000 But instead, we'll just stick this special prosecutor on him and that.

00:18:16.000 And hobble him. 1.00

00:18:17.000 They didn't remove him, but they did box him in.

00:18:20.000 And they boxed him.

00:18:20.000 What Donald Trump ran on in 2016 was that we should have detente with Russia.

00:18:26.000 That we should get along with Russia.

00:18:28.000 We should stop trying to overthrow Bashar al-Assad in Syria.

00:18:31.000 We should work with Russia to fight ISIS there, because we both have a mutual interest there.

00:18:35.000 And why not get along with Russia? 0.88

00:18:37.000 Why not move in this direction of being friends?

00:18:39.000 Man, so because they were accusing him of being a Russian agent every day on TV He could never make a deal with Russia because then that would have been seen as like oh look proof He clearly is a Russian agent.

00:18:50.000 So then he Donald Trump because he's Not Ron Paul, and not the great president he was supposed to be.

00:18:58.000 He went out of his way to prove how anti-Russia he was.

00:19:03.000 So he goes, I'm not a Russian agent.

00:19:04.000 I'll show you right now.

00:19:05.000 I'll tear up the IMF treaty.

00:19:07.000 I'll send weapons into Ukraine. 1.00

00:19:09.000 I'll do everything to show you how much of a hawk I am on Russia.

00:19:13.000 So it actually did work in a sense, where they boxed him into taking the wrong position.

00:19:17.000 And man, if he had been able to do what he was running on, We wouldn't be in the disaster in Ukraine we are today. 0.98

00:19:22.000 There'd be a hundred thousand people who would still have their lives.

00:19:26.000 I agree.

00:19:26.000 Yeah.

00:19:28.000 What do you think about the upcoming election?

00:19:31.000 Are you gonna vote Trump?

00:19:33.000 No.

00:19:33.000 Do you think you'll vote Libertarian?

00:19:37.000 I think there's a strong chance, there's a strong chance that I could vote Libertarian.

00:19:40.000 We gotta see who the candidate is.

00:19:42.000 Who do you think it's gonna be?

00:19:44.000 I mean, there's so many great options.

00:19:48.000 Vermin Supreme.

00:19:49.000 I mean, yeah, that guy gets up there, I'm obviously gonna vote for him.

00:19:52.000 Is he running Libertarian?

00:19:54.000 He always does.

00:19:55.000 He's running around his living room in his boxers, who knows what he's doing.

00:19:57.000 He's a Democrat though, I think.

00:19:58.000 He runs as a Democrat.

00:20:00.000 No, he's been dragging down the Libertarian party for the past...

00:20:03.000 Nah, those days are over.

00:20:04.000 It's a new libertarian party now.

00:20:06.000 So what are you guys fielding then?

00:20:07.000 I want to know.

00:20:08.000 Well, we've got a lot of great candidates.

00:20:10.000 That's very nonspecific.

00:20:11.000 I'll answer, Alvin Bragg.

00:20:13.000 That's the most specific I can give you.

00:20:15.000 I don't have to give you a crime.

00:20:16.000 I don't need to give you a crime.

00:20:17.000 I don't need to tell you anything.

00:20:19.000 But I will say, no, I'm interested.

00:20:22.000 I will say that Donald Trump's rhetoric over the last, say, couple months has been the best he's been since at least 2016.

00:20:33.000 The stuff he's been saying on the Ukraine war has been spot on.

00:20:36.000 Now that's a big difference between me actually trusting him, he said some good things in 2016, and then he's putting John Bolton as his national security advisor, so it's one thing to say it, but I will say, man, the other day, when he had that speech or whatever where he said, he was like, the number one enemy for America is not Russia, the number one enemy is, and I was just so sure he was going to say China, and I was already rolling my eyes.

00:21:00.000 I was like preemptively rolling my eyes at him saying China.

00:21:03.000 And then he went, the number one enemy is the deep state and Washington DC and all of this.

00:21:08.000 And I just, I felt myself standing to clap.

00:21:12.000 I fought it, but I felt myself standing to clap for him.

00:21:15.000 So there's a lot better to see him talking like this than talking about how he saved a million people's lives because he invented the vaccine or whatever.

00:21:22.000 Look, you know that he's definitely gonna be there after me, so he's gonna sit there and attack the Deep State.

00:21:30.000 And if he wants to go after the bureaucracy more, like for this entire time that he's running, more power to him.

00:21:36.000 Attack them, show as much of the bad stuff they do, shine as much light as you can.

00:21:46.000 He had the chance to do something about it, and he didn't.

00:21:48.000 I just think he has some fire back right now.

00:21:50.000 Like when he announced in November, I didn't feel it the way that, you know, obviously the iconic escalator moment.

00:21:55.000 And, you know, with East Palestine, with some of his rhetoric, it seems like he has got his momentum back in a way that is truly terrifying to other candidates.

00:22:04.000 You can't really compete with Donald Trump when he is ready to spar with you.

00:22:08.000 And it's really put him in a fighting position of late.

00:22:11.000 Yeah, well, look, and this fuels some conspiracy theories, too, which I don't know if there's any truth to any of them.

00:22:16.000 But there is no question to me that it really helps Donald Trump with his base when they raid his home in Mar-a-Lago and when they bring these nonsense charges to him.

00:22:26.000 Because it does, again, make him kind of like it gives you this narrative that, of course, as we were saying, is based off a lot of truth that he has been completely targeted.

00:22:35.000 But like he won the election in 2016 and he never got a chance to actually be president.

00:22:41.000 Let me pull up this story from the Hill.

00:22:43.000 GOP rep Thomas Massey endorses DeSantis for 2024.

00:22:48.000 That's it.

00:22:49.000 That's the story.

00:22:50.000 He said, America needs a leader who is decisive, respects the Constitution, understands policy, puts family first, and leads by inspiring.

00:22:56.000 That's why I'm endorsing Ron DeSantis for president.

00:22:59.000 If we make the right choices, America's best days are in front of us.

00:23:01.000 Let's pick a proven energetic leader who can get us there.

00:23:04.000 He continued, let's choose Ron DeSantis for president. 0.94

00:23:06.000 That means that Donald Trump is going to knock Representative Thomas Massie down to a fifth rate as opposed to a second rate.

00:23:13.000 I've talked ad nauseum about my views on DeSantis.

00:23:16.000 I think he's fantastic.

00:23:17.000 I really do think he's done a great job in Florida.

00:23:19.000 I don't know if I would, at this point right now, vote for him over Trump.

00:23:23.000 I'm curious, Dave, what you think about Massey's endorsement and DeSantis.

00:23:26.000 Well, I mean, look, you know, I'm not exactly sure.

00:23:30.000 First off, Thomas Massey is the best congressman in the country.

00:23:32.000 100%.

00:23:33.000 So just I give him a lot of credit.

00:23:35.000 And look, Thomas Massey was the one who stood up in real time while the COVID emergency

00:23:40.000 was going on and said, this is insane to just be giving away two trillion dollars in corporate

00:23:45.000 bailouts with no type of like vote, no audit of what's going on.

00:23:49.000 And he was completely demonized by Donald Trump at the time.

00:23:52.000 Donald Trump really sent all of his sycophants after Massey, which is a horrible thing to

00:23:57.000 do.

00:23:58.000 Massey was 100% right.

00:23:59.000 This is what create not only like really created so much of the instability we have today,

00:24:03.000 but so much of the price inflation that people have been suffering under for the last couple

00:24:07.000 years was due to these monstrous spending bills in 2020.

00:24:11.000 I also understand why Massey maybe isn't the biggest fan of Donald Trump.

00:24:16.000 I was with Trump on that back during the shutdowns.

00:24:19.000 But I think it's fair to say that hindsight is 20-20.

00:24:21.000 And I think, you know, my view of it back then was...

00:24:25.000 There's videos of people collapsing in the street.

00:24:27.000 We don't know a whole lot.

00:24:28.000 Maybe we just need to stem the bleed of the economic problems now, and then try and figure out what's going on.

00:24:35.000 Looking back on all of it, yeah, I think Thomas Massey was completely right.

00:24:38.000 It's the best I can do.

00:24:40.000 That's fair enough.

00:24:41.000 I think that the thing is like if you understand the nature of how the federal government like like bills like this

00:24:47.000 work You just know it's just it's not as if there's ever any

00:24:50.000 real like oh the people are hurting so we need aid It's just a race of lobbyists everyone getting their little

00:24:56.000 special thing in there And then you're lucky if the American people get like some

00:25:00.000 crumbs on it But anyway, but I'll just say that I do think look it's

00:25:04.000 hard It's hard to deny that even though he wasn't very good at

00:25:06.000 the very beginning That what DeSantis did in Florida for for kovat was just so 0.78

00:25:13.000 much better than Almost every other governor in the country

00:25:17.000 I guess Kristi Noem is the exception to that.

00:25:19.000 I think she never had any mandates or lockdowns or anything.

00:25:22.000 But South Dakota is not Florida.

00:25:24.000 And Florida is a much bigger state with an old population.

00:25:27.000 And he really put all of his chips in at a very dangerous time on we're not gonna go totalitarian here in florida and it paid off and so i understand where there's there's a reason why he flipped a purple state into a twenty-point red state you know i mean it's it's that you you have to acknowledge that and the mass exodus from these blue states into florida because of his leadership so the question then becomes

00:25:52.000 DeSantis or Trump?

00:25:53.000 Now, obviously, I know, you know, you're probably a more libertarian guy, but based, like, let's isolate this to the GOP primary.

00:25:59.000 Who do you think would be better for the Republicans?

00:26:03.000 Well, for the Republicans, and just real clear to preface this, it's not again, cause I was trying to say this last time I was on the show.

00:26:08.000 It's not like I'm saying like the, it's like, well, the, I'm not making the perfect the enemy of the good.

00:26:14.000 I'm not saying like, I understand Republicans, both Trump or DeSantis would be much better than Joe Biden in a lot of ways.

00:26:21.000 My thing is that I think America is going to die.

00:26:25.000 Like, I think this is a patient who's bleeding out and you're like, well, a band-aid is better than not a band-aid.

00:26:31.000 And I'm like, no, he will still die.

00:26:33.000 We need like a revolutionary moment here to drastically cut the size and scope of government.

00:26:41.000 I will say from what you asked me, from the Republican perspective, as of right now, I

00:26:46.000 got to say, I just don't really see any metric by which DeSantis is better for the Republicans.

00:26:54.000 Donald Trump has, as I've known when I've argued with you about my criticisms of Donald Trump, I had a debate with Stix about this, and I've heard back from a lot of the Trump supporters, and I don't even mean this as a knock on them, but there is a bit of a cult of personality going on there.

00:27:11.000 If DeSantis goes to war with Donald Trump, which it'll have to be in order for him to challenge him for the nomination, I don't think Trump's people will fall in line with DeSantis.

00:27:20.000 I think they're Trump or bust.

00:27:22.000 And I think the only guy the Republicans have who can actually put that coalition together, whether that's enough to win, I don't know, but I think it's Trump.

00:27:29.000 There's probably a lot of moderates who would vote for DeSantis but wouldn't vote for Trump.

00:27:34.000 There's a lot of people that will not vote for Trump.

00:27:37.000 Yeah, there might be some.

00:27:39.000 I mean, that's probably true.

00:27:41.000 You know, the other thing, DeSantis is such a big question mark on his foreign policy, and he was really bad as a congressman on this issue.

00:27:48.000 Well, elaborate on that, because I've heard people say he was good.

00:27:51.000 Oh, no, I mean, well, good if you're like, you know.

00:27:54.000 If you think George W. Bush had great foreign policy, then sure.

00:27:58.000 But no, he was a complete hawk in every sense of the word.

00:28:03.000 He was on board with every one of the military actions that he could have been while he was in Congress.

00:28:10.000 Now, that doesn't matter so much when you're governor of Florida.

00:28:13.000 And when you're governor of Florida, your COVID policy is a hell of a lot more important than where you stand on the wars.

00:28:19.000 But when you're the president of the United States, the most important thing is where you stand on the wars.

00:28:24.000 That's the one area where you're like the dictator.

00:28:27.000 And so that's a big deal.

00:28:29.000 So about a year ago, in reference to your cult of personality thing with people who have argued, about a year ago I was totally on board for DeSantis.

00:28:35.000 And I said, you know, Trump's whining and he won't shut up about 2020 and I'm not interested.

00:28:39.000 That was rough to listen to.

00:28:41.000 It was exhausting.

00:28:42.000 And then here's DeSantis who's coming and cleaning up all these messes in Florida and doing a great job.

00:28:47.000 Now over the past several months I've seen something else.

00:28:49.000 Donald Trump has cleaned up his messaging.

00:28:51.000 He's come out, he's talked about the war machine, he's talked about the deep state, the economy.

00:28:56.000 He's made these videos where he's like, my policy will be to do this thing, and I'm like, these are good.

00:29:01.000 He shows up in East Palestine, he buys everybody McDonald's, which was human and endearing, and I really liked it.

00:29:06.000 But more importantly, he's gotten back to the, I will crush the deep state and execute order schedule F. And Ron DeSantis, to me, when, this is important because this was a critical moment for me.

00:29:18.000 When they said they wanted to indict Trump, and Ron DeSantis two times said, I'm not getting involved in this, I was like, I can't vote for that guy.

00:29:27.000 I think he's great.

00:29:28.000 I think he's great.

00:29:28.000 If I was in Florida, I'd vote for him for governor.

00:29:30.000 As president, the guy whose attitude is, don't look at me, I'm not getting involved, is like, are you kidding me, dude?

00:29:37.000 We need Donald Trump to go in and fire everyone.

00:29:41.000 And DeSantis showed me right there, he's more likely to be the guy who goes in and says, how can we work together?

00:29:46.000 Yeah, the FBI needs to be reformed or something like that.

00:29:50.000 Trump's gonna be like, I want revenge.

00:29:53.000 Well, he might.

00:29:54.000 I mean, that very likely might be the case.

00:29:56.000 Although Donald Trump has been wronged by people and then worked with them and endorsed and supported or even appointed them before.

00:30:02.000 So I don't know, I'm not that confident.

00:30:04.000 I will say what really bothered me with the Ron DeSantis thing was that he walked back

00:30:09.000 the somewhat good comments he had made about the war in Ukraine.

00:30:13.000 I think it's an interesting dynamic here where you have, say, like the Republican Party,

00:30:18.000 the Republican establishment is completely on board with this war, this proxy war of

00:30:24.000 choice on the border of the country with the biggest nuclear arsenal in the history of

00:30:29.000 the world, the most insane policy imaginable, and you got Mitch McConnell is wearing like

00:30:34.000 a Ukraine lapel pin.

00:30:36.000 Mitch McConnell said the number one issue, the number one priority as this country is

00:30:42.000 crumbling is that we keep supporting Ukraine.

00:30:46.000 And so it was kind of interesting to see, now Donald Trump's coming out and saying, telling the truth, which is that this is, we should just be negotiating toward peace right now, this is insane that we're fighting this proxy war.

00:30:57.000 DeSantis kind of came out and kind of said like, well I don't know if it's exactly vital that we do this, and then seemed to kind of walk those comments back.

00:31:06.000 To me, if there's going to be one compelling case to vote for anybody, It would be, who is going to end this insanity, this game of brinksmanship that has brought us closer to nuclear war than at any point at least since the Cuban Missile Crisis?

00:31:21.000 The Libertarian Party.

00:31:23.000 Should any one of their potential candidates, we'll just put it that way, very vaguely, should any one of their candidates become the president, do you think they will execute Schedule F?

00:31:35.000 Schedule F?

00:31:36.000 Yeah, firing all the bureaucrats. 0.89

00:31:38.000 I think that, yes.

00:31:39.000 I mean, look.

00:31:43.000 So unless you have, look, a lot of things have to happen in order for that to happen, but let's say if the libertarian candidate for president wins the presidency, then there has already been a major shift in this country, right?

00:31:55.000 Like something huge has happened where a whole bunch of people have gone, hey, we're going to completely rethink the way we think about politics right now, and we like this guy who's talking about giving us more of a free country.

00:32:05.000 So there would be a tremendous mandate behind that person, unlike any Republican or Democrat could have if they had one, because so many people are just voting for their party.

00:32:14.000 And so, yeah, now I would say, of course that's what we would do.

00:32:20.000 You'd probably want to do it in a strategically smart way, you know?

00:32:24.000 I'd be a little bit concerned about... I wouldn't take any convertible rides through Dallas the day after I gave that order.

00:32:30.000 Can I just... I want to make a request to the people who are listening, because I don't have the means to do this, but could somebody take the scene from Star Wars when the Emperor says, you know, Execute Order 66, and just make it Trump in a cloak, and use the 11 Labs AI voice deepfake technology to make Trump say, Execute Schedule F, and then just show a whole bunch of bureaucrats being, like, let out of offices with empty boxes and stuff like that?

00:32:54.000 Well, it'll be— Well, it plays the very serious, dramatic, da-da-da-da-da-da-da music.

00:32:57.000 Look, I just— The problem with Trump is at least, say, the first time he was president, I never saw anything out of him that convinced me that he would actually follow through with something that bold.

00:33:09.000 And every time he flirted around with doing something really bold, he walked it back.

00:33:14.000 Whoever got in the room with him, Whatever they convinced him or lied to him or threatened him or whatever it was, he always... He hired the absolute best guy that you should hire, who should have been his defense secretary from day one, but he hired Colonel Douglas McGregor to come in and draw up the plans to end these wars.

00:33:32.000 And he hired him after he lost the election to Joe Biden, so they had just this little lame duck period to work with.

00:33:37.000 Colonel Douglas McGregor draws up the order to end the war in Afghanistan and Syria and

00:33:43.000 pull all troops out.

00:33:45.000 Donald Trump signs it.

00:33:46.000 And the next day, he rescinded the order.

00:33:51.000 Now I don't know who got in the room with him. 0.99

00:33:52.000 I don't know if he's listening to his idiot friend Lindsey Graham or he's listening to 1.00

00:33:56.000 his idiot son-in-law. 1.00

00:33:58.000 I don't know who it was. 1.00

00:33:59.000 But one way or the other, that's what happened.

00:34:02.000 And Donald Trump would say the right things about, like, sometimes on COVID, but he'd never really do it.

00:34:08.000 And I also, I'll also just never forgive him for, uh, for keeping Fauci on the job through all of 2020.

00:34:14.000 Mocking Sweden for not locking down, you know, like.

00:34:17.000 It would just be, like, the funniest thing ever to me would be if, like, there's a dramatic political shift in the next year.

00:34:23.000 Where people are like, you know, moderate say, I just don't want to vote for Trump.

00:34:27.000 Then along comes this more personable, relatable libertarian candidate who's preaching all of these things.

00:34:33.000 That would be cool.

00:34:34.000 And then the moment that libertarian gets in office, he starts bombing a bunch of foreign countries.

00:34:38.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:34:39.000 Because guys, and then like people like Phil's like, dude, what are you doing?

00:34:42.000 Like you made all these promises.

00:34:43.000 I go, hey, dude, you want to be the head of Raytheon?

00:34:45.000 I can get you a pretty sweet gig.

00:34:47.000 I go, I don't know, it just looks a lot different from the inside than it looks from the outside.

00:34:50.000 Phil's on the show and he's like, I can't believe we are betrayed by this guy, but I'm going to be sitting down and talking some sense into him.

00:34:56.000 And then the next day it's like, he's wearing a suit and he was like, you are all wrong about the war and you hate America.

00:35:04.000 Phil, did you always have diamond contact lenses?

00:35:07.000 You know, I wouldn't talk about a new job, but there would be signs.

00:35:10.000 There would be signs.

00:35:11.000 Let's jump to this story because this one's interesting.

00:35:13.000 We're from the New York Intelligencer, New York Mag.

00:35:16.000 The mystery of North Carolina's Democratic defector.

00:35:21.000 That's it, huh?

00:35:22.000 Look at this.

00:35:23.000 Citizen Free Press.

00:35:23.000 North Carolina Democrat Trisha Cotham is now a Republican.

00:35:26.000 Here's the clip.

00:35:28.000 Let's hear what she has to say.

00:35:29.000 Is the audio right?

00:35:29.000 Should be.

00:35:32.000 It's muted on the video.

00:35:33.000 Nope.

00:35:34.000 There's just no sound coming through?

00:35:37.000 Let's try reloading.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, it should be working.

00:35:40.000 Oh, or there's no sound on the video?

00:35:41.000 That can't be right.

00:35:44.000 I mean, from what I'm seeing here, it should be good.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, I guess there's no sound on the video.

00:35:48.000 Just play it.

00:35:48.000 I'll lip read.

00:35:49.000 Okay. 0.97

00:35:51.000 Democrats are totally whack. 0.59

00:35:53.000 She said, the modern-day Democratic Party has become unrecognizable to me. 0.72

00:35:57.000 If you don't do exactly what the Democrats want you to do, they will try to bully you, they will try to cast you aside.

00:36:02.000 Maybe I can just do this.

00:36:03.000 Maybe this will play properly.

00:36:05.000 There is no sound coming out of this thing.

00:36:09.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:36:10.000 Don't look at me.

00:36:10.000 We should be here.

00:36:11.000 I blame Twitter.

00:36:13.000 I find it pretty funny.

00:36:14.000 Anyway, she quit.

00:36:15.000 There you go.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, they said their big concerns is that there's going to be abortion restrictions and restrictions on transing kids.

00:36:22.000 Child sex changes. 0.72

00:36:23.000 Which is just such a funny thing to just be like, all right, no more murdering babies.

00:36:26.000 And you're like, we can still chemically castrate them though in a few years, right?

00:36:30.000 Like, nope, not either.

00:36:31.000 Like, we can't do anything.

00:36:34.000 All I want to do is violate TOS.

00:36:37.000 All I want to do is violate TOS.

00:36:40.000 The Republicans won't let us do anything!

00:36:42.000 But here's what I said about it.

00:36:44.000 Because they got that in Wisconsin, they elected that Supreme Court justice or whatever judge in Wisconsin.

00:36:50.000 And I guess the issue was Gen Z and abortion. 0.54

00:36:53.000 And so I just tweeted, I was like, look man, I've never been this like hardcore staunch pro-life dude.

00:36:59.000 I think there should be some restrictions on abortion.

00:37:01.000 I think abortion is bad in most circumstances.

00:37:05.000 There's questions I have from a libertarian perspective.

00:37:07.000 But also from a practical perspective, the end result of Democrat policy is the end of Democrat policy.

00:37:13.000 In 20 years, there will be substantially more conservative kids.

00:37:18.000 If conservatives right now have 10 kids per family, 10 of them!

00:37:22.000 In twenty years, you will have ten times the voting base.

00:37:27.000 I'm not even—well, five times, because you've got a man and a woman, you know, and they have ten kids, so that's two and you get five.

00:37:33.000 So, uh, I recommend it.

00:37:35.000 That's the path to victory.

00:37:36.000 I'll never understand why Democrats decided that they were going to campaign on abortion is birth control and therefore an attack on abortion is an attack on birth control.

00:37:45.000 They should have been like, cool, we lost abortion, so now let's really push to have the pill or condoms or whatever they're trying to get to young people.

00:37:54.000 They could have used this as a moment to win something back.

00:37:57.000 You took abortions away, and so if you want to prevent us from needing abortions, you should give us birth control. 0.87

00:38:02.000 Instead they lump them together.

00:38:04.000 They sell it as one package.

00:38:06.000 They sell it as abortion is a form of birth control and so therefore we have to regulate them the same way.

00:38:11.000 Well there's something interesting.

00:38:12.000 However you feel about abortion, like whether you're pro-life or pro-choice or whatever, somewhere in between, there's something interesting about it.

00:38:18.000 Abortion in a lot of ways kind of underwrites the entire cultural order that modern day liberalism is built off of.

00:38:28.000 Um, anything like the idea of, like, there's no difference between the sexes, or, like, hookup culture, kind of like, any of this, like, rejection of traditional, you know, religious and cultural values, all doesn't work.

00:38:44.000 If you don't have access to abortion, because as soon as you don't have access to abortion, it becomes very clear where men and women are different.

00:38:51.000 It becomes very clear what the risks of promiscuity is.

00:38:55.000 Like, there's just no, like, separating yourself from it.

00:38:58.000 And it kind of is this force that pushes you back toward more of a traditional lifestyle.

00:39:03.000 If you getting drunk and having sex with some random person can result in you having to

00:39:10.000 carry this baby to term, that is going to be a game changer in the post-60s sexual revolution 1.00

00:39:21.000 interactions between men and women.

00:39:23.000 So I think there's something where it's more than just they believe you have a right to

00:39:27.000 an abortion, it's something where they understand that this is fundamentally foundational to

00:39:35.000 all of the cultural revolution of the 60s continuing.

00:39:39.000 Because we'll revert right back to traditional norms very quickly if you don't have this.

00:39:43.000 Which is also part of the reason why I oppose it.

00:39:46.000 I don't think that you could prevent the reversion to traditional norms without it.

00:39:53.000 Yeah.

00:39:53.000 If you can't have the basically the type of promiscuous sex with no ramifications,

00:40:00.000 then the entire progressive order falls apart.

00:40:04.000 Everything from feminism, queer theory, everything just all falls apart. 0.97

00:40:09.000 Yeah, and like, statism, especially the most ugly forms of it, like big powerful governments, always make the family, the community, the church, the enemy.

00:40:19.000 Because these are the things that guard against, they're like hedges on state power.

00:40:24.000 They don't want you to have a strong family unit, because then you're much less likely to be dependent on the state.

00:40:29.000 They don't want you to be, like, very connected to your community and your church, because then you don't view Barack Obama as a god, because he's just a At the risk of sounding like a red-pilled, like, one of those Manosphere dudes, they don't want dudes that are capable of taking care of their house and taking care of their family and stuff because the more... Yeah, what's up with those dudes, by the way?

00:40:49.000 By the way, I agree with the point you just made, but it's like, what is up with all of these podcasts blowing up where it's like some guy winning a debate with, like, five chicks dressed for the club?

00:40:58.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:59.000 That's one show!

00:41:00.000 And they're like, oh, what do you think about this? 1.00

00:41:01.000 That shit's hilarious. 0.98

00:41:02.000 I just think that like relationships and stuff are good and he's like really well do you know the stats on that? 1.00

00:41:07.000 You're like wow you owned this 20 year old chick in a miniskirt. 1.00

00:41:12.000 I don't understand that.

00:41:12.000 Is that guy married? Like why are we taking advice from him?

00:41:14.000 You're talking specifically about the whatever podcast.

00:41:16.000 No, I think I've seen a few of them.

00:41:19.000 I don't know who any of them are.

00:41:21.000 Some of them are good clips.

00:41:23.000 The algorithm keeps showing them to me.

00:41:25.000 And I do agree with you.

00:41:26.000 Listen, the problem is that if you actually want relationship advice about what's going to lead to a healthy, stable marriage, take it from people who are in healthy, stable marriages.

00:41:37.000 This is what I've always wondered about.

00:41:38.000 Have you ever heard of, I don't remember what it's called, but like maybe you should talk about this, this therapist, Esther Perel, who's really big.

00:41:44.000 And she has some interesting insights.

00:41:45.000 She's a couples counselor, but she's been divorced multiple times.

00:41:49.000 And so every once in a while, like someone will be like, you should listen to this episode.

00:41:51.000 It's really good.

00:41:52.000 And like, I want to be appreciative of diverse worldview, right?

00:41:56.000 But I don't want to take marriage advice from someone who is not married.

00:41:59.000 I feel like that's basic.

00:42:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:03.000 I feel like it's both ends of the book.

00:42:04.000 Like, I've never been married, so therefore I'm probably not the best to hand out marriage advice.

00:42:09.000 I like marriage, I'm for it, but I also think I may be as good as the person who's been divorced.

00:42:14.000 They have this viral clip from a long time ago of me where I mention something about, like, modern feminists make it impossible to date or something.

00:42:22.000 And, like, of course I'm in a relationship.

00:42:23.000 I've been for a while.

00:42:24.000 And, like, so they misconstrue the point I'm making.

00:42:27.000 My advice to guys is you are likely not going to find a healthy relationship in a big city just going to like normal hangouts where people your age go because millennial women are like 78% democrat. 1.00

00:42:39.000 Overwhelmingly.

00:42:42.000 So you're going to find, whatever this person's views are, tremendous social pressure in their circles to reject whatever it is you might want to bring to the table.

00:42:52.000 So the simple way to put it is, you might meet a woman and she's very much like, want to have a family and have kids.

00:42:57.000 And then you're like, this is someone I can date.

00:42:59.000 And then every person they know and every social media account and everyone who follows them and they follow is screaming, be a CEO and don't have kids.

00:43:06.000 And so they're being pushed in both directions.

00:43:08.000 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 And look, I will say, because I didn't mean to, like, rip on those guys that much, I just think it's, like, silly to, like, be debating with these, like, young chicks or whatever, but look, like, I do think there is some, there's a reason they exist.

00:43:19.000 They're, like, a necessary pushback to the insanity of modern feminism. 1.00

00:43:24.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:43:26.000 And it's really funny when you think about it, how much this mentality has destroyed relationships and families in this country, along with a lot of other policies that have made it unaffordable to buy a home or to, you know, like, send kids to college and things like this.

00:43:38.000 But there is something to, like, where you go, look, this whole idea that they're like, well, you know, back in the 50s, women were subservient to their husbands.

00:43:47.000 And you're like, so now they're subservient to their bosses?

00:43:50.000 It doesn't get better.

00:43:51.000 Is that better?

00:43:52.000 That's better to be Be, like, subservient to someone who's not even, like, raising your kids with you?

00:43:57.000 Did you see the clip from the Whatever podcast where the woman says, if a guy she wants to date doesn't have a girlfriend or isn't sleeping with other women, she assumes something is wrong with him?

00:44:07.000 Yeah, but again, it's like, the thing that I think might be misleading about some of these shows is that they go, and they go, see, that's women. 0.99

00:44:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:15.000 Well, no.

00:44:15.000 But you're like, no, no.

00:44:16.000 It's like, that's clearly the woman you don't want to be in a relationship with. 0.96

00:44:21.000 Agreed.

00:44:21.000 But there's, like, there are a ton of, like, really great, like, women out there who are, don't have crazy attitudes like that, who will make, like, really good wives and mothers.

00:44:32.000 It's not impossible to find them.

00:44:34.000 This is the flaw in a lot of that, like, manosphere logic, too, where, like, they take some things that are somewhat true and then extrapolate that they're, like, laws, where they're like, look, what women want is a guy who's, like, tall and is making money and is doing this, who's dominant, who's all of this.

00:44:50.000 Like, okay, yes, there's some truth that a lot of those characteristics are attractive to women. 0.99

00:44:55.000 The truth is that like, okay, like you could be, uh, like a tall, rich, charming guy.

00:45:02.000 And all throughout this country, there are plumbers whose wives you couldn't pull from them. 0.70

00:45:09.000 Yeah.

00:45:10.000 They would never in a million years fool around behind their husband's back, no matter what you were, because they're in love with their husband, and he makes them happy.

00:45:19.000 Plumbers are alright though, man.

00:45:21.000 Yeah, well I'm just saying, I just meant, I don't, no, not insulting plumbers.

00:45:26.000 I enjoy their services.

00:45:27.000 I got a better one for you.

00:45:28.000 There are unemployed street musicians who are living at home with the women, with their wives, who are doing heavy lifting, who will not cheat or leave their husbands because they love him and the relationship.

00:45:41.000 They're super devoted.

00:45:42.000 What I'm saying is, think about a guy who's like, I'm gonna make it as a musician, honey, I just need more time.

00:45:48.000 And she's like, sooner or later you gotta get a job.

00:45:51.000 But she still won't leave him or cheat on him even though he's not successful.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, it's like a lot of these stories are like women want a man who's dominating and

00:45:58.000 tells them what to do and it's like then then what about all the dudes who are like losers

00:46:02.000 who have these wives who won't leave them despite the fact they're not succeeding like 0.91

00:46:06.000 love is dynamic and you know and the reason I use the example I use was more like look

00:46:10.000 I think that relationship probably is more vulnerable there still are lots of chicks 1.00

00:46:13.000 who like won't like are in love with that guy but I just mean like there's guys who

00:46:17.000 just do the job of like being like hey I work every day I take care of you I'm a good husband

00:46:22.000 and they have like loyal wives who like are great to them and like that's I'll just say

00:46:28.000 it's it's a really a it's a great thing to have from my perspective having a really great

00:46:32.000 wife it makes life. 1.00

00:46:34.000 Like, so much better than you could have imagined it would be, that I just don't like the idea of anyone talking to young men and, like, discouraging them to, like, that being a possibility for them.

00:46:47.000 Potentially finding... Yes, and it's like, you can't... No, you can't... Now, it is true, like, take some of that Jordan Peterson advice, get yourself together, improve yourself, make yourself more of the person who will, like, will attract women to you, but then when you do that, find a great one.

00:47:01.000 But Peterson's different than, like, the red.

00:47:03.000 Oh yeah, no, he's the best of that kind of world.

00:47:06.000 It is self-help, it applies to women. 0.98

00:47:07.000 And also because he's not a kid.

00:47:08.000 Because he's a guy in a happy marriage, you know what I mean?

00:47:11.000 Well, I think part of it is, like, duality.

00:47:13.000 I think right now, like we were talking about with abortion, like, if you take away some things that we have right now in modern culture, there is no reason to pursue high-quality people because the family unit doesn't matter, and so therefore, like, What is the point of finding someone high quality that are going to be with long-term, monogamously, through thick and thin kind of thing, right?

00:47:31.000 Like, I find myself thinking all the time, like, I wish we returned voting rights just to, like, married men who own property. 0.97

00:47:37.000 Because if you had to be married and own property, and, like, to vote, I feel like our system would be totally different.

00:47:44.000 It's a start.

00:47:45.000 It's a start.

00:47:45.000 It's complicated to reapply it today.

00:47:47.000 We get to that part, and then we strip those guys. 0.96

00:47:50.000 Yes!

00:47:50.000 And then we've really got something going.

00:47:52.000 Have you seen the family?

00:47:53.000 I love when Dave's here.

00:47:54.000 You see the Family Guy joke about this, where it's like it was a flashback, and then it's Peter Griffin talking to someone and he's like, you know, okay, you're free, but you can't vote.

00:48:02.000 It was like Civil War or something.

00:48:04.000 And then he was like, only white people can vote.

00:48:05.000 Except for, then he starts naming all of the other groups that technically, like, and it's like, you know what?

00:48:11.000 No voting for anybody.

00:48:11.000 Nobody can vote.

00:48:12.000 Like, that's where ultimately it ends up.

00:48:13.000 Well, look, I mean, I will say that I think I think you'd be the only person in this room.

00:48:19.000 Or maybe, I don't know about Phil, but you would be our voting bloc in this room right now.

00:48:23.000 And if I was the only person in the country, I'd tell you, I'd be really on board with this plan.

00:48:27.000 But look, if you look at, zoom out, say, the last 100 years, broadly speaking.

00:48:31.000 Go to Woodrow Wilson's administration to Joe Biden's administration.

00:48:35.000 And you just look at how much bigger the government has gotten in all of these increments.

00:48:39.000 You have the creation of the Federal Reserve and the income tax.

00:48:42.000 You have FDR's, the New Deal. 0.78

00:48:45.000 You have the expansions during World War I, during World War II.

00:48:48.000 You have the Great Society under Lyndon Johnson.

00:48:52.000 You have whatever, everything from there, George W. Bush and Barack Obama, and all the way

00:48:56.000 through to the present.

00:48:58.000 And you look at how much the culture has been degraded.

00:49:02.000 And it's not a coincidence that as the state expands, your culture gets more destroyed.

00:49:07.000 And if you look at it through every inch of it, right?

00:49:09.000 Like, through even the creation of, say, like, Social Security.

00:49:12.000 It's like, okay, well, without Social Security, what used to be the retirement plan?

00:49:16.000 Well, the retirement plan used to be your kids would take care of you. 0.88

00:49:19.000 So you're just like incentivizing people to take really good care of their kids so that their kids then want to take care of them.

00:49:24.000 Before the rise of the welfare state, what was the welfare state?

00:49:27.000 It was your local community.

00:49:28.000 It was your local church.

00:49:29.000 It's like, there's all of these incentives to kind of like, we build communities for a reason.

00:49:34.000 Because there's natural incentives for us to all work together and kind of like be interdependent.

00:49:39.000 And then the state comes in at every turn.

00:49:42.000 It, like, undermines, like, all of those cultural norms and, like, incentivizes you to be dependent on the state.

00:49:50.000 And it's horrible.

00:49:52.000 Where are the politicians campaigning on just, say, like, ending the income tax?

00:49:56.000 Yeah.

00:49:56.000 I mean, it was unbelievable to me that during, I mean, I was screaming at the top of my lungs for as many people who could hear this, but even during the whole, like, uh, uh, during the, all the COVID insanity, they were like, Hey, we want to figure out how to get, it's so funny.

00:50:08.000 Watch the federal government say, we're trying to figure out how to get aid to the American people who we rob half their income from.

00:50:16.000 Like, how about.

00:50:17.000 Three years of... that we're pausing the income tax.

00:50:21.000 You know, like a tax holiday for three years.

00:50:23.000 Something like that.

00:50:24.000 And why no one would be, you know, talking about this thing that is the biggest bill for so many families around the country.

00:50:31.000 But think about this.

00:50:32.000 They did the stimulus.

00:50:33.000 They did the extended unemployment plus the stimulus because of COVID.

00:50:37.000 And the complaint from a lot of people was that Democrats are basically bribing voters, saying, vote for me and I'm gonna give you money.

00:50:44.000 Okay, so why don't Republicans just be like, we'll get rid of the income tax. 0.97

00:50:48.000 Libertarians, I mean, obviously, but, you know, conservatives should be campaigning on that.

00:50:51.000 They get every vote.

00:50:53.000 If Donald Trump came out and said, please, you don't like me, I know, but I'm gonna abolish taxes on you so you'll have a lot of free money, then Democrats might be like, oh, I hate Trump, I'm gonna vote for that guy.

00:51:04.000 Well, tax cuts do tend to be popular.

00:51:07.000 I think that, you know, the issue that people have with it is that If in order to do something like that, people would recognize that there have to be drastic cuts in spending along with it, because our government just spends so much damn money.

00:51:24.000 And so nobody wants to touch that, including every Republican president of my lifetime, including Donald Trump.

00:51:31.000 Trump should do it.

00:51:32.000 Yeah, look, I agree with you.

00:51:34.000 Donald Trump...

00:51:36.000 Trump needs to do a campaign video where he's like wearing the cloak and then there's like fires behind him and he's like, I am shutting down the Federal Reserve, the income tax, vengeance will be mine.

00:51:48.000 I'd be like, I'm voting for that guy. 0.93

00:51:48.000 Well, it's just the most insane. 0.93

00:51:49.000 I mean, I love this is a Scott Horton's analogy, not mine.

00:51:53.000 But so shout out to the great Scott Horton.

00:51:55.000 I totally agree.

00:51:56.000 But he always says this, which is just, when you really think about just how insane the income tax and the IRS are, especially in a professed capitalist country, but he would go, imagine the Soviet Union invaded and conquered the United States of America.

00:52:10.000 So we're a free country, and the Soviet Union invades and conquers us. 0.94

00:52:14.000 We never had anything like the IRS before.

00:52:16.000 And then they come in and they say, we are creating the USS IRS.

00:52:22.000 It is now a crime to produce something.

00:52:25.000 It's a crime to make money in this country.

00:52:28.000 And the punishment for the crime is a fee.

00:52:30.000 And the more you produce, the higher your fee goes.

00:52:33.000 And we've repealed the Fifth Amendment.

00:52:35.000 You no longer have a right to not incriminate yourself.

00:52:37.000 You must incriminate yourself every single year to the government, who will then assess how much you've produced.

00:52:44.000 And therefore, what your punishment should be, how high your fee is, and if you lie when you're incriminating yourself, we will throw you in jail, and if we feel that you, if we decide that you've miscalculated, we'll go back 20 years and just absolutely destroy you.

00:52:57.000 Like, if that was the case, it would be so obvious to all of us what happened.

00:53:01.000 You went, oh, we were conquered, and now we live under totalitarianism.

00:53:05.000 There was a period.

00:53:06.000 Yet we, our own government does it to us, and people are just kind of like, well, this is a government department.

00:53:11.000 You want to know why I'm absolutely sure?

00:53:14.000 And soon enough, everyone's gonna have the Neuralink port on their necks, and they'll be plugged into the matrix of the metaverse.

00:53:19.000 Because we all have government-mandated identification numbers.

00:53:25.000 Multiple of them.

00:53:27.000 You get your driver's license or ID, you get an ID number on that card.

00:53:30.000 But when you're born, they give you your official government tracking number.

00:53:34.000 Congratulations.

00:53:36.000 Now, think about that analogy you gave about the Soviet Union, and go back a hundred years, and people are gonna be like, the government's gonna do what?

00:53:45.000 Track me by number?

00:53:47.000 Now it's like, everyone has one, it's totally normal.

00:53:51.000 So it's going to be normal.

00:53:52.000 This expansion just keeps happening.

00:53:54.000 The likelihood, in my opinion, is 100%.

00:53:56.000 Well, the thing about it is that parasites tend to eventually kill the host.

00:54:02.000 I was thinking of maybe a more optimistic metaphor than that.

00:54:05.000 But it does seem like we're living through something very big right now.

00:54:12.000 Empires do collapse, and we do seem to have all of the signs of a collapsing empire.

00:54:16.000 But I got a better analogy. 0.98

00:54:18.000 Not parasite.

00:54:19.000 Symbiote.

00:54:20.000 Like Venom.

00:54:21.000 Okay.

00:54:22.000 Actually, I think it is a much better analogy.

00:54:24.000 Because if you think about it, for those that are fans of Spider-Man, you'll probably understand this.

00:54:29.000 Do you know anything about the Venom character?

00:54:30.000 No, I don't.

00:54:31.000 The symbiote attaches to Eddie Brock and then tells him it's going to give him everything he wants, make him powerful, get his revenge, makes him more aggressive and angry.

00:54:41.000 That's literally what happened.

00:54:42.000 The United States had this group come in, the Jekyll Island, say, we're going to do this thing, it's going to stabilize your economy, it's going to be so good for you, it's going to make everything better, and then turned the country into a weapon, made it angry and aggressive and imperialist.

00:54:54.000 Yeah, I like that analogy a lot, actually.

00:54:58.000 I will say, though, I think the biggest story in the world right now is what just happened over the last couple weeks with Xi going to Russia and working out this deal with Vladimir Putin.

00:55:10.000 They've got Brazil on board. 0.82

00:55:12.000 They've got India on board. 0.98

00:55:13.000 The Chinese have now brokered somewhat of a normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

00:55:20.000 It's like you're seeing, like, In 1991, after the Soviet Union collapsed, the late, evil Charles Krauthammer dubbed it the unipolar moment.

00:55:34.000 It seems like we're witnessing the end of the unipolar moment.

00:55:37.000 Like we're no longer in just an America-dominated world.

00:55:42.000 And it's quite something.

00:55:43.000 It's just like the hubris of all of these war hawks in D.C.

00:55:46.000 that one year into this war in Ukraine, and you're like, ooh, that's not how the plan was supposed to go, now is it?

00:55:52.000 Democracy ain't sweeping the region after we overthrew Saddam, is it?

00:55:56.000 But I think Donald Trump saw this, One of the reasons he wanted to run, securing our borders, bringing manufacturing back, was because the U.S.

00:56:04.000 unipolar world was destabilizing, and the only way that people like Hillary Clinton and the deep state were able to maintain it was by further spreading thin, expending resources, and it was crumbling.

00:56:15.000 And so Trump is like, we're going to make this country great, we're going to bring back jobs, we're going to secure our borders, we've got to get a control on this because otherwise, If we allow the deep state, Biden, Democrat, whoever is running the show, to keep doing this, we're going to spread so thin, it's just going to snap.

00:56:33.000 And then the United States will be left holding an empty bag.

00:56:35.000 If Donald Trump was the president, we'd have more manufacturing, we'd have a secure border, and then when the unipolar shift happens to a multipolar shift, we're still much more self-sufficient and better off.

00:56:45.000 Oh yeah, I mean look, I gotta say, I think The world and America would be better off without America being the dominant, like, hegemon.

00:56:54.000 Like, I don't think that's done any favors for the American people.

00:56:57.000 I think that, like, it's just allowed us to expand our resources and spread them thinner and thinner.

00:57:02.000 Don't get me wrong, it's been really great for Raytheon, and it's been really great for JPMorgan Chase, and like— Some people have benefited from it.

00:57:08.000 Some people have benefited.

00:57:09.000 The average American, I don't believe, has.

00:57:11.000 I think that Donald Trump did see America in decline and felt like it was for a lot 1.00

00:57:17.000 of very stupid reasons. 1.00

00:57:19.000 This is what he would say. 1.00

00:57:20.000 He's like, well, we're fighting stupid wars and we're making stupid trade deals and we're 1.00

00:57:25.000 flooding with immigration. 1.00

00:57:26.000 This doesn't make sense.

00:57:27.000 I don't think he appreciated how much this was directly related to the increase in government

00:57:33.000 spending and the zero interest rates for over a decade that he inherited. 0.98

00:57:38.000 The reason why the deep state was engaging in war and stupid trade deals is to prop up 0.99

00:57:42.000 the petrodollar. 0.99

00:57:43.000 By forcing countries who would try to oppose us, Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, they wanted to get off the dollar, they get wiped out.

00:57:51.000 The reason why we were doing these awful trade deals, the simplest example, way to understand this, is the Pakistani gender studies grant. 0.99

00:57:57.000 It was like $12 million for gender studies programs in Pakistan. 0.87

00:58:00.000 Now, everyone laughs and says it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, but the idea is, if the U.S. 0.90

00:58:05.000 can print the money and give it out, it maintains confidence in that currency. 0.97

00:58:09.000 It may weaken it through inflation, but it makes sure those people use it.

00:58:13.000 So you'll get this country, you'll get Pakistan, getting this money, of course that money's not going to gender studies, they're gonna steal and they're gonna use it for whatever they want. 1.00

00:58:19.000 But if you get a guy who's just given a million dollars, he wants that million dollars to be worth something.

00:58:25.000 So he goes to another guy, and the guy says, I don't want U.S.

00:58:28.000 dollars, and he goes, I only trade in U.S.

00:58:29.000 dollars because I'm rich and I got U.S.

00:58:30.000 dollars.

00:58:30.000 Okay, fine, we'll use U.S.

00:58:31.000 dollars.

00:58:32.000 The U.S.

00:58:33.000 does this stuff with bad trade deals, giving money away on purpose, and then blowing up anybody who won't use the dollar.

00:58:40.000 Yeah.

00:58:40.000 That's over.

00:58:42.000 Well, it seems like it's the beginning of that, of the end for the petrodollar.

00:58:46.000 Now what exactly that's going to mean, I don't know, but it's big.

00:58:50.000 They're talking about the CBDC starting the central bank digital currency in July now.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, there's been a lot of talk of this.

00:58:58.000 They're trying to gauge it.

00:58:59.000 And this is why I say like it's the most important issue to like spread awareness about right

00:59:03.000 now so that people go like, listen, under no circumstances do you go for this because

00:59:07.000 what's going on right now and this is something that happens a lot is they put these feelers

00:59:12.000 out and they gauge how much resistance there is to this.

00:59:15.000 But like the white pill in all of this is that.

00:59:18.000 If there's too much resistance, they will pull back this idea. If you remember Joe Biden floated out our national

00:59:23.000 vaccine passports Yeah, and they float this out through like their corporate

00:59:28.000 press outlets and they go Oh, we're talking about this and then there was a big uproar

00:59:31.000 about it and then they pulled it back They go. No, no, we were never talking about doing that

00:59:34.000 talking about Obama announced that we were going to invade Syria

00:59:37.000 There was a huge pushback to it and he pulled it back. We didn't invade Syria

00:59:40.000 We only covertly funded Isis, but that's a story for another day

00:59:45.000 But even with like SOPA if you guys remember the plant the original plan of regulating the internet

00:59:50.000 Yes, that's right.

00:59:52.000 They floated this out, there was too much resistance, and they pulled it back.

00:59:55.000 So, like, there is actually a lot of power.

00:59:57.000 There's a reason why they try to propagandize people.

01:00:00.000 There's a reason why they use propaganda.

01:00:02.000 Because they recognize that they actually do have to, like, have at least a level of tacit support to get these policies through.

01:00:09.000 So, like, the central bank digital currency is the big one right now to me.

01:00:13.000 Like, oppose that as vocally and as loudly as you can so they feel like they have to pull this back, because that's game over for us.

01:00:19.000 Yes, unless there's a major crisis.

01:00:23.000 That makes it tougher.

01:00:24.000 Have you seen that Balaji guy predict a couple weeks ago that Bitcoin would be, I think it was like a month ago now, Bitcoin would hit a million dollars in 90 days? 0.99

01:00:31.000 Yeah, I heard people talking about that.

01:00:32.000 He was talking about how, I think it's like treasury bonds are a negative asset.

01:00:38.000 So the interest rates on them is lower than the interest rates by the Fed and the inflation, so they're guaranteed once they mature to be a loss for the banking institutions.

01:00:48.000 These unrealized losses will cause a cascade which basically destroys these banks.

01:00:54.000 We started seeing glimpses of it with SVB, with what was it, Silvergate, First Republic, and then Sovereign I think it was.

01:01:02.000 And so If they are planning, and they've mentioned launching the CBDC by July, the only way they can effectively do it is if there is a major crisis.

01:01:11.000 Now imagine this, because our audiences have already heard me mention this, but I'm curious your thoughts.

01:01:17.000 A major bank collapses.

01:01:19.000 Like, I'm talking like a huge branch, maybe not a regional, something bigger.

01:01:24.000 And then you get a major news break.

01:01:25.000 Wells Fargo or something, right?

01:01:27.000 Are they still around?

01:01:28.000 I know they had a big problem.

01:01:30.000 So let's say there's a big collapse at Wells Fargo.

01:01:32.000 We're talking about millions of people saying, I can't get my money out.

01:01:36.000 Joe Biden comes out and says, my fellow Americans, those who have been impacted by the collapse of these banks, fear not, your money is insured and covered.

01:01:45.000 Simply download FedCoin.app and log in using your social security number and all of your currency will have been preserved and converted to the new central bank digital currency, saving your assets.

01:01:59.000 And then people will say, thank you, Joe Biden, as they log in to adopt CBDC.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, well, I mean, hopefully we can kind of wake as many people up as possible to what that'll really mean.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, but... Yeah, you're... What does a dad do when one day he's told, if you want to buy groceries, you must use CBDC?

01:02:17.000 Yeah, that's a tough choice.

01:02:19.000 I mean, like, yeah, so you'll probably be able to get... Yes, the central bank digital currency, right?

01:02:25.000 Look, what's going on here that is... What I find to be more likely, if there's a lot of pushback to this idea of a central bank digital currency, is that they're just going to lower interest rates again and kick the can down the road for another few years.

01:02:38.000 I think that's where we're going, is back down to 0% interest rates when all of these banks really start failing, which I think is inevitable.

01:02:45.000 And this is kind of like – if you're familiar with the Austrian economics, which is the only good economics out there – I really encourage everybody, if you're interested in the topic, to look them up – basically the way the boom-bust cycle works is that when you have artificially low interest rates, you build up bubbles.

01:03:03.000 When the rates start inevitably coming up, those bubbles burst.

01:03:06.000 It's basically like this false – it's like price fixing, like anything else.

01:03:09.000 When you fix the price of the cost of money, Which is all interest rates are, is the price of money.

01:03:14.000 When you fix those, you get investments you wouldn't otherwise have.

01:03:18.000 People borrow money when there's very low interest, when they wouldn't have borrowed that money at a high interest rate loan, because that makes it profitable.

01:03:25.000 However, once the interest rates start to come up, as is inevitable, then they realize, oh, this project never should have been started to begin with, and then you have this whole collapse.

01:03:35.000 All of these banks are completely built now because this insane policy, which is, if we survive, historians will write books about how crazy it was that anyone let this happen, that we had from, literally, from 2008 through, with slight interruptions, almost through 2021, we had 0% interest rates.

01:03:56.000 There was zero, the Fed fund rate was either zero or a quarter of a point or something insanely low.

01:04:03.000 And all of these banks have been built off of that at this point. And so like what you're talking

01:04:07.000 about with the interest rates rising and then the Treasury's becoming completely worthless or

01:04:11.000 even a loss in some cases, that's one aspect of it.

01:04:14.000 There's several.

01:04:15.000 But a lot of these things, there's still people in adjustable rate mortgages out there.

01:04:20.000 They can't afford these interest rates going up anymore.

01:04:22.000 And just for a little bit of perspective, you know, for what Volcker had to do under Ronald Reagan to rein in the inflation of the 70s, he brought the Fed fund rate up to 20%.

01:04:34.000 Now, the thing is, they weren't $30 trillion in debt back then.

01:04:38.000 We can't do anything like that or it would pop this entire bubble.

01:04:41.000 So we're in a bad spot.

01:04:44.000 Yeah.

01:04:44.000 I say just, we gotta get it over with, man.

01:04:46.000 That we'd be better off in the long term.

01:04:48.000 This is another insight of, like, the Austrian economist.

01:04:51.000 That, like, you're basically, you're better off in the long term to feel the pain now and then at least start building from scratch.

01:04:59.000 Yes, yes, but the reason why they're drawing it out The Titanic has hit the iceberg.

01:05:05.000 They don't want the people on the ship to know, because they'll panic.

01:05:09.000 So they are loading up as much fine china into the safety boats.

01:05:12.000 That's a very good analogy.

01:05:13.000 And they're going down the safety boat.

01:05:15.000 Everything's fine, everybody!

01:05:17.000 Everybody's... Don't worry, we're just gonna be over here!

01:05:20.000 And you're like, why are they in the lifeboat and leaving?

01:05:22.000 They're everybody should everybody that listens to like stuff that's whether it be libertarians or stuff like you know center-right you know this kind of stuff everyone know has known that this has been coming like that the US has been giving money away for a decade that the government is completely irresponsible with the monetary policy and I don't want to sound like a like a You know, insensitive or whatever, but it's like, people have been saying buy guns for a decade.

01:05:47.000 People have been saying, like, buy ammo, buy food, learn to do things.

01:05:51.000 I mean, Tim's been talking about chickens for five years now.

01:05:54.000 Like, not for nothing, and I understand that there are always people that are learning about this stuff and finding out, but like, the people that have been putting this off, like, you have literally It's possible that you only have months before there's a serious credit crisis.

01:06:10.000 I want to say this again, because I said this the other day.

01:06:12.000 I said it at my morning show.

01:06:14.000 We make fun of these soy boys. 1.00

01:06:16.000 These Antifa, scrawny, gaunt soy boys who get arrested firebombing buildings. 1.00

01:06:24.000 And there are many people who listen to shows like this who are like, well, I can't speak up. 0.88

01:06:28.000 I'll lose my job.

01:06:30.000 And it's just like, How are they the soyboys? 1.00

01:06:33.000 Yeah.

01:06:33.000 These far leftists are willing to, like, destroy everything in this psychotic rage.

01:06:38.000 Call them something else, you know?

01:06:40.000 Yeah, and, like, fair- I can understand people being afraid of risk and all that.

01:06:44.000 I'm just saying, like, take stock of, like, where you are at and your ability to stand up to the problems this country is facing and what precautions and actions you've taken to protect yourself and your family before you start casting stones at soyboys. 1.00

01:06:55.000 Right.

01:06:56.000 And you can take minor steps to live your values, right?

01:06:58.000 You don't have to Confront everyone all the time if you like put your jobs at

01:07:02.000 risk, but like don't continue to consent to everything that happens, right?

01:07:06.000 Wait micro changes that are manageable. So you are not just giving in

01:07:09.000 Yeah, at least try to start putting yourself in a position where your job wouldn't be at risk. You know what I mean?

01:07:15.000 Like, try to at least start protecting yourself where you would be able to speak up about what you want.

01:07:22.000 Look, I mean, obviously there's an asymmetry between who they're calling the soy boys on the left and these guys. 0.53

01:07:28.000 Like, the system is designed to protect those guys.

01:07:31.000 And the system will come crash down on you.

01:07:33.000 We are really living in anarcho-tyranny, as Sam Francis would have called it. 0.96

01:07:37.000 You see, Donald Trump will get arrested because there's so many damn laws on the books that they have a new law they can use against him. 0.99

01:07:43.000 Meanwhile, rapists and murderers will go free. 0.99

01:07:45.000 But hold on.

01:07:46.000 Where is any conservative prosecutor in this country to go after Obama and the Democrats for campaign finance violations?

01:07:54.000 One time.

01:07:54.000 One.

01:07:55.000 One count.

01:07:56.000 One charge.

01:07:56.000 One misdemeanor.

01:07:57.000 Anything.

01:07:57.000 I'll take whatever I can get.

01:07:58.000 Yeah, and there's plenty there.

01:08:00.000 There's plenty of stuff there.

01:08:01.000 Right, and Bragg vomits all over himself in an embarrassing fashion, but he didn't care.

01:08:09.000 It's like that story where the Taco Bell employed the Black Lives Matter mask on and they said, take it off or you're fired.

01:08:14.000 He goes, I guess I'm fired.

01:08:15.000 Made a video saying, how dare you?

01:08:17.000 And they rehired him saying, we're sorry.

01:08:19.000 Greg will indict Trump on BS and conservatives will be like, slow down there, Democrats.

01:08:25.000 Well, you know, this was the kind of like, the most like annoying boomer con, 0.86

01:08:29.000 like National Review talking point about Donald Trump being impeached.

01:08:33.000 As they're like, well, this is just gonna lead to like, now everyone's gonna impeach every president

01:08:38.000 and then the next president will be impeached.

01:08:39.000 It's like, no, there's no political will on the Republican side to impeach Joe Biden right now,

01:08:43.000 right?

01:08:43.000 And because the reason really is, is that they're all in the same club.

01:08:48.000 Like they're the globetrotters and the generals, they're playing their positions.

01:08:53.000 The Republicans up there in Capitol Hill, they're on the same team.

01:08:56.000 They're just, they're there to be the generals.

01:08:58.000 They're there to say like, we stood up against this and then we got walked over or whatever.

01:09:03.000 So that, no, that's not actually what's happening.

01:09:05.000 You know what this reminds me of?

01:09:06.000 It's that Simpsons bit where, you know, Krusty's got a gambling problem, and I think it's Barty's like, you bet against the Globetrotters, and he's like, I thought the generals were due!

01:09:16.000 Like, dude, we keep betting on these Republicans, but they're just there to pretend to oppose Democrats, for the most part.

01:09:22.000 There's a small handful that do.

01:09:24.000 Thomas Massey's pretty good.

01:09:25.000 Matt Gaetz is pretty good.

01:09:27.000 And it's not that they're afraid to use state power, you know, by the way, oh my god, it bothered me to no end when a few months ago when, what's his name, I'm sorry I'm blanking on his name, Michael Knowles was on the show and he got into a little bit of an argument with Luke.

01:09:42.000 But when he was saying, which I think is, there's this new kind of like right-wing narrative, which is really kind of entertaining to me, where they go, you know, the problem is, That libertarians convinced the Republicans that you can't use the state.

01:09:58.000 And so we decided that, okay, we agreed.

01:10:01.000 Yeah, using the government is, I think he said, it's a priori wrong.

01:10:06.000 And so then what happened was the left just took over all of these institutions.

01:10:09.000 And that's kind of a nice story.

01:10:11.000 I understand where it would make some right-wingers feel good about the story.

01:10:16.000 But objectively, it's not what happened.

01:10:17.000 It's not at all what happened.

01:10:18.000 What actually happened was that the Republicans, who had the support of all the conservatives in the country, decided to completely abandon any libertarian principle that they had.

01:10:30.000 And while libertarians were screaming at them from the top of our lungs that, like, you're creating the Department of Homeland Security, this will be a nightmare.

01:10:39.000 This will be used against American citizens. 0.65

01:10:41.000 They were like, no, no, no, we're fighting terrorism.

01:10:43.000 And when we told them, don't fight this war in Iraq, they were like, no, no, no, we're spreading freedom.

01:10:47.000 And don't pass the Patriot Act and all of these things.

01:10:50.000 They ignored us.

01:10:51.000 They went all in on state power.

01:10:53.000 And now that state power is being used against those people.

01:10:57.000 It's a like horrifically tragic, ironic thing that the voters who supported George W. Bush creating the Department of Homeland Security are now the targets of the Department of Homeland Security.

01:11:07.000 security and then you get luke talking about how he goes out to rallies and he's got these

01:11:12.000 people used to be staunch conservatives are neocon being like you're right

01:11:14.000 about everything yeah well that's a weird thing is that with a little admit

01:11:17.000 we're right about everything in the past within the also won't like but then

01:11:21.000 as soon as we tell them like what we think they should do now they go alright

01:11:24.000 walbert like whatever you know i think i'm a little over even when you

01:11:28.000 see the other day when it's like these people like advocating for uh... gun

01:11:32.000 control against transgender people or whatever after the shooting

01:11:35.000 and then like some libertarian will be like that you know they'll make the point that you're like uh...

01:11:40.000 you know if you advocate that the government can take away your guns cuz

01:11:42.000 you have a mental illness they're gonna decide that racism is a mental

01:11:46.000 illness pretty soon and anything you say is racism take away your guns and they'll 1.00

01:11:50.000 be like they're already against us so it doesn't you like

01:11:53.000 it can get worse Don't think it can't get worse.

01:11:56.000 Michael Malice points out. 1.00

01:11:57.000 Can you imagine if the guy who told you don't create the Department of Homeland Security, or you could be the target of it, and then you did it, and then you're the target of it, and they go, hey, don't create this next thing, or you could be the target of it, and they go, whatever, idiot. 0.99

01:12:09.000 But not this time. 0.99

01:12:12.000 Yeah, not this time.

01:12:13.000 Michael Mills talks about this.

01:12:14.000 He said that people really don't understand how bad bad could be.

01:12:18.000 Yes.

01:12:18.000 That you've got people on the right saying like, oh, it's so bad right now.

01:12:21.000 It's like, you don't know how bad it gets.

01:12:22.000 He's absolutely right.

01:12:23.000 Someone should make him press secretary.

01:12:24.000 He's absolutely right.

01:12:27.000 So the story I like to tell is my Ukrainian friend saying that when I was in Ukraine covering a lot of the Euromaidan stuff, the start of what became the war, I guess, although I can go back far, she was telling me that the apartment she was in, like 30 some odd years ago, there were neighbors that lived next to each other.

01:12:47.000 They were fighting because they're neighbors.

01:12:50.000 So the person in her unit called the police and said, I overheard my neighbor saying anti-government things.

01:12:57.000 And the next day the apartment was cleaned out and the person was gone.

01:13:00.000 So when, what year was this in?

01:13:01.000 I don't know, the seventies or something, maybe.

01:13:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:03.000 Long time ago.

01:13:04.000 Maybe, maybe earlier.

01:13:05.000 It was a story.

01:13:05.000 It might've been the fifties.

01:13:06.000 She was just saying like the, the, these houses were all the communist block houses.

01:13:10.000 okay yeah she was like that the story they passed out she was like i live

01:13:13.000 here there was a person who lived in the soviet union

01:13:16.000 who got mad at a neighbor and that's what they could just a little bit and

01:13:19.000 all had all it all it is the public opposite i they were saying things

01:13:21.000 against the party and the next day they were gone everything they don't got

01:13:25.000 like Yeah, and like, right, so it's like, and this is kind of like I think part of the message of Michael Malice's last book, The White Pill, or maybe just kind of like what I took from it, but the message is kind of like, look, it can get so bad, you know what I mean?

01:13:40.000 Like it can be so much worse than you can even conceive of, but then it also kind of makes you think like, look, there are also like little signs of things kind of like this.

01:13:49.000 that we're doing now. So hey, let's really make sure we don't go down that path. Because, you

01:13:53.000 know, even when they were encouraging people during COVID, remember there were points where

01:13:56.000 it's like, oh, there was this this hotlines where you could text and mention if someone

01:14:00.000 was having a gathering or something. There are still government agencies that tweet out if you

01:14:04.000 see something, say something, and they've been doing it for the past 20 years since the G-Watch started. 0.57

01:14:10.000 And it's, well, it started after like nine.

01:14:12.000 It was like, hey, if you see a Muslim planting a bomb on a building or something, and then it turned into like, or maybe there's three people hanging out. 0.71

01:14:21.000 I ask people to think of it this way.

01:14:23.000 You ever see a rabbit?

01:14:25.000 Just out in the middle of nowhere?

01:14:27.000 Imagine why the rabbit must feel, right?

01:14:29.000 Just a tightly wound ball of anxiety.

01:14:32.000 Scared the entire time.

01:14:35.000 And sometimes, when they're safe, you know, they frolic around, they bounce, and they do fun bunny things.

01:14:39.000 You see them flop on their side, for those that have rabbits.

01:14:41.000 But when I go outside, I see the bunnies.

01:14:44.000 A better example, actually, is the groundhog.

01:14:47.000 Outside, there's a window right here.

01:14:49.000 Today, when I was recording earlier, I got up to close the window, and I saw a groundhog.

01:14:53.000 And when I closed the window, the simple, very, very quiet noise made the thing spaz out and run in random directions.

01:15:00.000 Imagine what that thing must be feeling, right?

01:15:02.000 That's how you will feel if this country goes down that path.

01:15:06.000 You will be sitting in your home, stressed out, with bags under your eyes, rocking back and forth, eating a bowl of soup, and then you'll hear a knock on the door and you'll go, and then you'll go and you'll answer it, and you will pray that it's not the Gestapo, the Stasi, the police, or the brown shirts, or whoever, and then one day it will be.

01:15:24.000 And that's it.

01:15:25.000 And it doesn't have to be this way.

01:15:27.000 That's kind of my biggest message.

01:15:29.000 It doesn't have to be this way.

01:15:30.000 It didn't have to go this way in the past.

01:15:32.000 There's nothing predestined about that.

01:15:34.000 I think this is one of the things that the neo-reactionary types get completely wrong, where they're like, oh, it was all written in the stars since the Enlightenment that this would follow this and this would follow this.

01:15:43.000 And it's like, no, that's not true.

01:15:45.000 It wasn't written in the stars that the Soviet Union would collapse in 1991.

01:15:48.000 It wasn't written in the stars that a lot of things that have happened have happened.

01:15:52.000 And we could have, look, even something as simple as like, look, if George W. Bush just hadn't won the presidency,

01:16:01.000 which was a very, very close election, there wouldn't have been a war in Iraq.

01:16:05.000 Now I'm not saying everything would have been better under Al Gore.

01:16:07.000 I think Al Gore would not have gone to war in Iraq.

01:16:10.000 That was something that that specific group of neoconservatives had a boner for since they wrote it

01:16:16.000 in the project for a new American century.

01:16:18.000 That was not something that like was widely, now once it started, a lot of them fell in line with that.

01:16:23.000 But I'm just saying that like, there's no reason why we had to go down this path

01:16:27.000 that we've gone down the last 20 years.

01:16:29.000 I'm not saying everything would have been perfect, but we could have done things a lot better.

01:16:33.000 And we could stop now and make the future much better.

01:16:36.000 This country still has an unbelievable opportunity.

01:16:40.000 If you just think about the fact that like, think about the amount of just knowledge we have,

01:16:44.000 how much human capital there is just in our knowledge today.

01:16:47.000 What the average say like a cardiologist knows that a cardiologist didn't know in 1950.

01:16:54.000 Now, short of a hydrogen bomb going off, that knowledge is not going to be—is disappeared, but our engineers know, the amount of technology that we have, we have all of these things where we could actually correct course right now and just live in a more peaceful, harmonious world, but it's only going to happen if there's like a mass demand for it.

01:17:12.000 You know what's crazy?

01:17:13.000 Just as an aside, if you went back in time 2,000 years, With your general knowledge of things that exist today, without knowing how an H-bomb is made, without knowing how to make an electric motor, if you simply wrote down these things and said electricity, electric motor, it would dramatically increase scientific development for those people by hundreds of years just simply knowing a thing exists.

01:17:41.000 Because one of the challenges is that, for all of us in society, we are mapping things out and discovering things, and then, after we discover it, we start experimenting with it.

01:17:51.000 If we skip the discovery phase and say, it exists, figure it out, people would rapidly discover these things.

01:17:56.000 If they believed you.

01:17:57.000 That's what I mean, of course.

01:17:58.000 I wish I knew his name.

01:17:59.000 ago is that if they didn't they'd be like it just sounds like mad there's

01:18:01.000 some comedian who talks about like I don't think I could make it he'd be like

01:18:05.000 you know phones you'll be able to carry one around in your pocket and they're

01:18:08.000 they're gonna ask him like how does that happen pretty sure it's a Nate Bargett

01:18:11.000 see is who you're probably I wish I knew his name it's such a funny there's a

01:18:15.000 amazing comedian yeah great person he does this yeah he goes that he couldn't

01:18:20.000 even convince the satellites like I go back in time and do worse because I

01:18:26.000 couldn't such a fun it's such a funny bit where you have like no follow-up you

01:18:29.000 go like I think it's satellites and they're like what's a satellite he's

01:18:32.000 like I shouldn't have even brought it up Such a great bit.

01:18:38.000 Hilarious comedian, Nape, I guess.

01:18:39.000 But think about that, because I've talked about it too, in terms of if we do face a serious collapse, what is more worrying to me than a nuclear bomb going off, an EMP drone weapon, or even the sun bursting and wetting electronics, is economic crisis.

01:18:55.000 Yes, I agree with you.

01:18:57.000 If the economy stops, Then you're not going to have computers, you're not going to have cars, you're not going to have electronics, and it's not because a magical explosion from the sun wiped it out, it's going to be because people aren't working together, because the economic machine itself is a powerful system that if you break one peg in it, it can collapse.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, and this is when really bad things happen, when there's a really bad economy.

01:19:20.000 If you look back at any horrible totalitarian movement, it almost always started with a real economic crash.

01:19:26.000 We've got an economic issue going on in the U.S.

01:19:29.000 and we're in a proxy war with the country that has the most nuclear weapons on the planet, and people just go about their normal days like that is just the way things are, or that it's okay.

01:19:41.000 It should be the most important thing is stopping.

01:19:45.000 It's like a slow boil, right?

01:19:48.000 Like people got eased into the economic turmoil and then they got used to it and then they got used to everyone talking about Ukraine.

01:19:54.000 We had the moment where everyone put up their flags and then it sort of has been happening in the background for like a year.

01:19:58.000 How we got here is, I get it, you may be right, how we got here is not important just because of the ramifications of something going wrong.

01:20:05.000 Well, the thing is this, right?

01:20:06.000 And when you talk about the prospects of a really terrible economic situation.

01:20:13.000 By the way, there's a great book, if anyone wants to read it, called The Forgotten Crash of 1921 by James Grant.

01:20:18.000 Really excellent book.

01:20:20.000 So in 1921, a lot of people don't know this, there was a crash that was worse than the stock market crash of 1929, which led to the Great Depression.

01:20:28.000 But at the time, the Federal Reserve was created in 2013. 1913?

01:20:34.000 I'm sorry, 1913.

01:20:37.000 There wasn't much of a federal regulatory apparatus yet.

01:20:42.000 It hadn't really come in.

01:20:43.000 The government was just kind of like weak compared to... So basically they did nothing.

01:20:49.000 There was no intervention.

01:20:50.000 And the crash was over within a year.

01:20:53.000 It was a bad year and then the economy totally recovered and all of it.

01:20:56.000 So there is this natural cleansing mechanism.

01:20:59.000 Like, basically what I'm trying to say is with all of our modern technology today, if we were to just get the government out of the way, if we were to just let the market work, if we were to just, we could cleanse out all of these problems and we could be fine.

01:21:11.000 We could very easily negotiate a peace in Ukraine.

01:21:15.000 It is so simple.

01:21:16.000 It's so obvious what needs to happen.

01:21:18.000 It's like, look, and this is a bitter pill for some to swallow, but it's the reality.

01:21:23.000 Crimea is Russia's. 0.96

01:21:25.000 It's not going back.

01:21:26.000 Here's the truth.

01:21:27.000 It never really wasn't theirs.

01:21:29.000 It was always theirs. 0.96

01:21:30.000 It's basically been there since the 1780s.

01:21:32.000 They allowed Ukraine to have independence if they leased out this naval base.

01:21:36.000 The second that the Ukrainian government, after it was overthrown by a coup that was backed by the West in 2014, they said, you got to get that.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, and we can talk more about that.

01:21:46.000 I would love to.

01:21:47.000 But they said they tore up the lease and Vladimir Putin said no.

01:21:51.000 Now they claim Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.

01:21:54.000 I mean, excuse me, invaded Crimea.

01:21:56.000 It's true that he sent in some reinforcements.

01:21:59.000 He didn't really invade.

01:22:01.000 They left the base.

01:22:02.000 They walked outside.

01:22:04.000 And they went, this is ours now.

01:22:06.000 Right.

01:22:06.000 It was a bloodless coup d'amain.

01:22:08.000 They were there already.

01:22:09.000 Yes.

01:22:10.000 I mean, maybe like four people died or something like that.

01:22:12.000 And it was not even like from the Russians.

01:22:14.000 It was like in some protests and stuff.

01:22:15.000 It's not exactly clear.

01:22:16.000 But this wasn't like some bloody invasion.

01:22:18.000 They just walked out.

01:22:19.000 Most of the people there wanted to be with Russia.

01:22:22.000 It's majority ethnic Russian.

01:22:23.000 And they had their huge base there.

01:22:24.000 That's not going anywhere.

01:22:26.000 The Donbass region?

01:22:27.000 They're probably going to have to be given independence of some sort.

01:22:30.000 West of there should be returned to Ukraine, and it should be demanded that if we guarantee Ukraine will never be a part of NATO, then Vladimir Putin pulls all of his presence back from west of the Donbass region.

01:22:43.000 That offer would end the war tomorrow. 0.72

01:22:46.000 This is literally what the deal was that they had worked out when Boris Johnson went over last year to tell the Ukrainians not to agree to this, as was reported by Fiona Hill, not a libertarian dove.

01:22:58.000 Fiona Hill even reported this, right? 0.99

01:23:00.000 So we could work that out and the bloodshed could end tomorrow, except you got idiots like Joe Biden and then people in the press like Piers Morgan going, not one inch! 1.00

01:23:10.000 He shouldn't get one inch. 1.00

01:23:12.000 Why should he get anything?

01:23:13.000 It's like, oh, so that we don't keep tens of thousands of people dying for the next five years.

01:23:18.000 And so that there's not ultimately a nuclear war.

01:23:20.000 That's why.

01:23:21.000 And because, like, whether Luhansk is ruled by Kiev or Moscow is not more important than whether we go to nuclear war.

01:23:28.000 I'm sorry, Dave.

01:23:28.000 Whether Luhansk is ruled by Kiev or Moscow is of no matter to me at all.

01:23:33.000 At all.

01:23:35.000 You'd struggle to find something lower on my list of priorities.

01:23:38.000 To be fair, having been to the country and meeting people there, I have friends, but they don't live in that region, and many of them left the country, sadly, and so it's like, I don't know, like 0.1%?

01:23:50.000 I don't want them to suffer. I feel bad for them, but I don't think about Ukraine in that way.

01:23:54.000 I'm really worried about the southern border and our economy.

01:23:57.000 Yeah. And look, by the way, just to the point I was making before, it's like,

01:24:00.000 all the correct answers to all of these problems are actually fairly obvious.

01:24:04.000 The challenge is actually getting the psychopaths who rule us to implement any of them. And I'm not

01:24:10.000 pretending to have an easy answer to any of that. But also just with this Ukraine thing, man,

01:24:14.000 it's like, and it's been funny because I like, you know, I've gotten, when I was on Rogan last

01:24:19.000 time they clipped the segment where I was talking about this and it went like super

01:24:24.000 So it's been so funny to get, like, all the pushback from, like, all the blue checks. 0.90

01:24:27.000 I mean, now everyone has a blue check, but before when that used to be... And they're getting rid of theirs!

01:24:30.000 Yeah, I know.

01:24:32.000 But at the time, it was before Elon took it over, and getting all the pushback from all of them, and it's just so hilarious to see, where they're all, like, try to argue, like, Nuh-uh.

01:24:41.000 It wasn't America provoking this.

01:24:43.000 This war has nothing to do with NATO expansion.

01:24:46.000 This war has nothing to do with us overthrowing the government of Ukraine.

01:24:49.000 This war has nothing to do with us flooding in weapons after we installed a pro-Western government to Ukraine.

01:24:55.000 And you're like, dude...

01:24:57.000 I mean, you're just so removed from the reality of what's going on here. 0.73

01:25:01.000 And it's not just like, oh, the wacky libertarians or the crazy anti-war leftists are saying this.

01:25:08.000 Even the people within the national security apparatus knew this.

01:25:11.000 The current CIA director wrote a cable.

01:25:15.000 Did you ever read this, Tim?

01:25:16.000 The nyet means nyet?

01:25:18.000 So, okay, this is a secret, this was not like a public, like, released document.

01:25:24.000 He, the current, Burns, who's the head of the CIA, he was the ambassador to Russia in 2008, and he wrote a memo back to Condoleezza Rice.

01:25:33.000 We only have this memo because Julian Assange dumped it, okay?

01:25:36.000 It's the only reason we know about this.

01:25:38.000 He wrote a memo, this is not what he's telling the public, this is what he's telling his boss, the Secretary of State, just so she knows, and he goes, look, I'm here in Russia, and over the last few years, I got to

01:25:50.000 tell you, the idea of Ukraine entering NATO is the brightest of red lines. And this is

01:25:56.000 not just the brightest of red lines to Putin. He goes the entire Russian elite, like from the 0.76

01:26:02.000 craziest right wingers to Putin's sharpest liberal critics. He goes, I've yet to meet one

01:26:08.000 person who sees Ukrainian entry into NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to

01:26:15.000 Russia. And he goes on to say that this will be lead to fertile ground. He's putting it 0.76

01:26:19.000 in diplomatic language, but he goes like this will be this will lead to fertile

01:26:23.000 ground for intervention in Crimea and Ukraine. He tells him now three months after that.

01:26:30.000 At the Bucharest summit, NATO announced Ukraine and Crimea will be joining NATO.

01:26:35.000 Three months after that, he goes to war with Georgia.

01:26:40.000 I'd just like to read something for you real quick.

01:26:42.000 I'm just going to read this.

01:26:43.000 It says, Taras Berdenyi is the chief executive officer of Burisma Holdings.

01:26:49.000 Well, hold on.

01:26:50.000 We'll skip forward a little bit.

01:26:51.000 It says, in 2017, Joseph Coffer Black, former director of the Counterterrorism Center of the CIA in the George W. Bush administration and former ambassador-at-large for counterterror, was appointed to the board.

01:27:03.000 And this is around the same time that he appointed Hunter Biden to the board.

01:27:11.000 Yeah, 2017.

01:27:11.000 Hunter Biden was 2014, I believe.

01:27:16.000 2014, Devin Archer and Hunter Biden were appointed to the board.

01:27:19.000 I bring this up for one reason.

01:27:20.000 You mention all these people who are like, we didn't provoke, we didn't do this.

01:27:23.000 I have not had a single conversation with a liberal in support of the Ukraine war who could tell me what Burisma is, what Gazprom is, and what the Qatar-Turkey pipeline are.

01:27:31.000 No, they have no idea.

01:27:32.000 But listen, and the thing, the deal with Burisma, the reason why they're putting all these people on their boards is essentially, they were essentially like cronies of the Yanukovych government.

01:27:42.000 And by the way, Yanukovych was a real corrupt government. 0.78

01:27:44.000 Ukraine's always been a crazy corrupt country. 0.69

01:27:46.000 There's like, I don't have the exact numbers of this offhand, but Yanukovych's son was I think like the fifth richest person in Ukraine and he was a dentist.

01:27:55.000 Like, there wasn't even, like, a plausible reason for it.

01:27:57.000 Now, again, we can be judgmental, but Nancy Pelosi's also worth, like, a few hundred million dollars, and we got a fair amount of this stuff going on here, too, but Yanukovych was democratically elected, and the elections were verified by the EU, and, like, so no one's really, like, claiming that, and the Maidan Revolution, this bloody street putsch, was completely backed by the West.

01:28:19.000 You can look at a million different angles where it was funded by—George Soros's website Brags about how they were instrumental in organizing the protest movement.

01:28:28.000 Of course, Victoria Nuland was going over there on multiple trips, just passing out food and water. 0.95

01:28:33.000 You had McCain and Murphy and Lindsey Graham, all these senators meeting them.

01:28:37.000 Billions of dollars of U.S.

01:28:38.000 aid flowing into the country.

01:28:40.000 All types of this involvement.

01:28:42.000 But Burisma was in with the Yanukovych government.

01:28:46.000 So when the U.S.-backed coup overthrew the Yanukovych government, they were freaked out.

01:28:51.000 And they were like, oh no, where do we stand now?

01:28:54.000 So instead of just bribing the Pershingko government, they went right to the source.

01:28:59.000 And they go, we'll just put the vice president's kid on our board.

01:29:02.000 We'll hire former CIA guys.

01:29:04.000 We'll get there.

01:29:05.000 So they basically, in essence, they protected themselves with the new regime by just bribing who they knew the real boss of the new regime was, which was the USA.

01:29:17.000 I just find all of this to be, like, if you track the history of the region, the energy crisis, the energy competition, it's fairly obvious what's going on.

01:29:25.000 And like you pointed out with Crimea, this is Russia's, I believe, their only warm water port.

01:29:31.000 Yes, yes.

01:29:32.000 The only year-long warm water port.

01:29:34.000 And it's their access to the Mediterranean.

01:29:37.000 And the U.S.

01:29:38.000 was basically like, not anymore.

01:29:40.000 So, of course, Russia's only move was going to be It's Russia now. Yeah, well, and look, look, we almost no 0.53

01:29:47.000 one I ever like talk to ever disagrees, even like the most hardcore libertarian who might like take

01:29:54.000 some position of like, well, you have to invade us before we can attack you. No one

01:29:59.000 thinks it was unreasonable for Jack Kennedy to say you can't have nuclear missiles in Cuba pointed at

01:30:04.000 us like you just can't have that.

01:30:07.000 That's an act of war as far as we're concerned.

01:30:09.000 We have a Monroe Doctrine, right, that states that no faraway power can come over here and meddle in our part of the world.

01:30:16.000 We would not accept China overthrowing the government of Mexico and installing a pro-Chinese government.

01:30:21.000 Nope.

01:30:21.000 We will go to war with you over that.

01:30:24.000 And like, now you're telling me that like, our Monroe Doctrine extends all the way to Russia's borders?

01:30:31.000 But they're not allowed to have a Monroe Doctrine for the country next to them, for their largest neighbor, to just say that, like, yo, you have... And then, like, people will come back to me and they'll be like, well, Vladimir Putin was interfering in Ukraine at the same time America was.

01:30:43.000 And it's like, yeah, that's true.

01:30:46.000 But America interfering in Mexico is not the same thing as Vladimir Putin interfering in Mexico.

01:30:52.000 Right?

01:30:52.000 And us intervening in Ukraine is not the same thing as Vladimir Putin intervening in Ukraine.

01:30:57.000 It's not just a matter of what's right and wrong.

01:30:59.000 It's just like reality.

01:31:01.000 It's just like, you know... Hypothetically, like, let's say you woke up and you were the president.

01:31:07.000 Okay, sure.

01:31:07.000 What's the first thing you would do?

01:31:10.000 The first thing I would do would be to announce that we are no longer supporting, that we're no longer backing Ukraine in this proxy war, and that we're demanding negotiations.

01:31:19.000 Whoever my Secretary of State, I'll send Scott Horton over there to sit down with Sergey Lavrov, work out a deal, that's it.

01:31:27.000 You guys are locked in a room until you've come up with an immediate ceasefire.

01:31:30.000 I kind of feel like it would happen very quickly.

01:31:32.000 It would happen very quickly.

01:31:33.000 Yeah, he'd walk in and be like, we don't want to be involved.

01:31:35.000 And he's like, okay, we're out.

01:31:36.000 Have a nice day, bye.

01:31:36.000 Yeah, well that's it.

01:31:37.000 And look, like I said before, the outline to the deal is so obvious.

01:31:40.000 It's right there in front of everybody.

01:31:42.000 It's just a matter of actually getting people to do it.

01:31:45.000 But that'd be number one.

01:31:47.000 Then I would pardon Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Ross Albrecht.

01:31:53.000 I'd probably write an executive order that repealed every executive order ever written.

01:31:58.000 It'd be a big day.

01:31:59.000 You know what I would do?

01:32:00.000 You know the Simpsons scene where he's in the land of chocolate and he's running around and he's like biting everything?

01:32:04.000 That would be me signing pardons.

01:32:08.000 So if it were me, I'd basically pardon any non-violent offense, like almost any.

01:32:15.000 Non-property destruction, non-violent, like anything like just possession of a gun, possession of drugs, anything like that, you're free.

01:32:23.000 As long as they didn't plead down.

01:32:25.000 So if it's like war on drug stuff and Second Amendment violations, I'm going to be going like... She's just signing them.

01:32:30.000 It's like rubber stamp.

01:32:32.000 100%.

01:32:32.000 100% so many unemployed the bureaucrats Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

01:32:40.000 It would be so much fun.

01:32:43.000 My hand would fall off from signing all the things.

01:32:46.000 Well, that's what we need.

01:32:48.000 But for now, we'll go to Super Chats.

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01:33:27.000 Normies Get Out say, Bert coin to the moon.

01:33:30.000 Okay.

01:33:31.000 Normies Get Out's got a- Bert Corbin continuing to be our company cult leader.

01:33:34.000 Can I just point out though, Normies Get Out's got an American flag bean.

01:33:37.000 He's been a member for 37 months.

01:33:40.000 Yeah.

01:33:40.000 Wow.

01:33:40.000 It shows you how deep this cult goes.

01:33:42.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 Super hostile takeover by Chris Burtman.

01:33:45.000 The American flag beanie is like the ultimate beanie.

01:33:47.000 It is.

01:33:48.000 Icon, isn't it?

01:33:48.000 Wow.

01:33:48.000 Yeah, it's the highest, highest ranking beanie.

01:33:51.000 So when you're a member on the YouTube channel, you get various beanie icons.

01:33:53.000 They're different colors.

01:33:54.000 Some are like, Jason Dixon's got one that's like gold with gems on it.

01:33:59.000 All right.

01:33:59.000 Carrie Locke says, glad to see Davie Smith back.

01:34:03.000 I don't know.

01:34:03.000 I don't know what to say.

01:34:04.000 I mean, uh, I think it's good.

01:34:05.000 It's about it.

01:34:05.000 president as a Democrat, in my opinion, his voice on the primary stage will have a similar

01:34:09.000 shock factor as, say, Dave Smith in a 2024 presidential run.

01:34:13.000 I don't know.

01:34:14.000 I don't know what to say.

01:34:15.000 I mean, I think it's good.

01:34:17.000 It's about it.

01:34:18.000 I mean, like, I don't know that much about his politics other than the COVID stuff.

01:34:24.000 But man, yeah, it'd be like incredible to have his voice there.

01:34:27.000 And the fact that he's a candidate, like that his last name is Kennedy, and he's not like

01:34:31.000 one of the like, outskirts of the candidates.

01:34:33.000 He's not like someone like, you know, like, I'm like, a sixth cousin or something like

01:34:40.000 he's a real heir to the Kennedy legacy.

01:34:42.000 I mean, like, yeah, I think that'd be incredible.

01:34:45.000 I'm for all this stuff, like, When people float out the idea of Jimmy Dore running, I think that'd be amazing.

01:34:49.000 I think Kennedy Jr.

01:34:51.000 running would be amazing.

01:34:52.000 I think, like, as many more people like that as you can get in would be great.

01:34:55.000 And maybe even a great libertarian.

01:34:58.000 Antipathy, or Antipathy, says, Regarding yesterday, lefties being stronger, I disagree.

01:35:02.000 I believe those committing violence are the fodder who have nothing to lose. 0.99

01:35:07.000 The left's advantage is promising fool's gold to fools. 0.99

01:35:10.000 That is true. 0.99

01:35:11.000 Someone else superchatted that because we did mention the same topic today.

01:35:14.000 I understand that.

01:35:15.000 That it's easy for them.

01:35:16.000 But I actually also kind of disagree to an extent.

01:35:22.000 Let me ask your thoughts, Dave.

01:35:23.000 Do you have a family?

01:35:25.000 I do.

01:35:26.000 Who do you think is more willing to fight for their ideology?

01:35:30.000 Someone with nothing to lose or someone who needs to save the lives of their children?

01:35:33.000 Yeah, certainly if your family is threatened, I think there's no one willing to fight more than that.

01:35:39.000 However, I would say that it's probably true that someone with a family is a little bit more risk-averse than someone without one.

01:35:49.000 And so the point I'm making is, the threat to your children is very real, to an extreme degree, but it's fifth generational warfare, so people are convinced if I stay low and keep my head down, my kids will be safe, when in fact, you're condemning them.

01:36:05.000 That's how I see it.

01:36:06.000 If the far left is willing to go out and firebomb things, they get let go, they're protected, and they'll indict a former president.

01:36:13.000 What future is gonna be left behind for your kids to be safe in?

01:36:15.000 I mean, so if your plan is to get them to El Salvador, then I'm like, oh, okay, that makes sense.

01:36:19.000 If you were like, look, I can't fight, I have a family, we're moving to El Salvador, cost of living is cheaper, everything's dramatically improving, Bitcoin's revolutionizing everything, I'd be like, totally get it.

01:36:28.000 But if you were like, I want to save America because my children are going to live here, I'd be like, well, then why are you just saying I can't do anything? 0.97

01:36:34.000 I have kids and I can't put them at risk.

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 And no one's saying you should do what the left's doing.

01:36:38.000 It's not saying you should go fireball.

01:36:39.000 Don't do that.

01:36:41.000 But like, it's just like, well, what are you doing?

01:36:44.000 Like, do your best to do something.

01:36:46.000 Send a message to Scott Pressler and say, like, what do you need, buddy?

01:36:49.000 Because this guy's been organizing.

01:36:51.000 So, you know, there's one option.

01:36:53.000 But also, I think that, simply put, You know what you do?

01:36:56.000 Have more kids.

01:36:58.000 I completely agree with that.

01:36:59.000 And not even just to win in the political future.

01:37:02.000 It's just really great to have kids.

01:37:03.000 Could you imagine if it's like, you know, if you're a guy watching this show and you're like, honey, we've got to do our part to save the future, so let's go to the room and, you know, let's get to it.

01:37:11.000 Ever see the movie Grease?

01:37:12.000 Do it for our country.

01:37:13.000 Remember that scene in the bomb shelter?

01:37:16.000 Do it for our country.

01:37:17.000 Yeah.

01:37:18.000 All right.

01:37:19.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:37:20.000 says, Tim, it's nice that you say, F them, boycott everything, but we're all becoming a bit more polarized.

01:37:25.000 You know, I'd rather, I'd rather it, but do any of you see the slowing down before it hits the big fan?

01:37:31.000 So this was about the Budweiser thing.

01:37:34.000 They had Dylan Mulvaney.

01:37:35.000 Now, Dylan Mulvaney, I guess, is also a brand ambassador for Nike.

01:37:39.000 And I'm just like, boycott all of it.

01:37:41.000 You have these people being like, I own a liquor store and we're getting rid of Bud Light.

01:37:44.000 And I'm like, you got to get rid of all Anheuser-Busch.

01:37:46.000 Here's the thing, if every single person who listened to this show told their friends, and every single influential person who has shows, who may hear me say this, on their show says the same thing, do not buy anything Anheuser-Busch, it's not just about hurting them in the sales, it's about making them apologize.

01:38:05.000 You want them to get to the point where they say, I'm sorry to you, because that sets a cultural standard.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, and it scares the next guy.

01:38:13.000 Like, it scares the next company from doing something like that, where they go, oh, there's a real price to be paid for this, you know?

01:38:19.000 And this is the point I'm saying about Soyboys. 1.00

01:38:22.000 When you said, but what are you doing?

01:38:24.000 Yo, people still have Netflix accounts.

01:38:26.000 People still have Disney accounts.

01:38:27.000 People are still buying Bud Light.

01:38:29.000 They're going like, ah, whatever, it's Bud Light, who cares?

01:38:31.000 It's like, that's it.

01:38:32.000 The leftist guy will get fired from Taco Bell because he can't wear his BLM mask, and then Taco Bell caves and apologizes.

01:38:40.000 But many of you won't...

01:38:42.000 Get rid of your Bud Light. 1.00

01:38:45.000 In all fairness, a few years ago I was like, I don't know, boycotts are stupid. 1.00

01:38:47.000 Now I'm just like, nah. 1.00

01:38:49.000 You gotta go ten times harder.

01:38:51.000 You've gotta, if you have a liquor store, get rid of anything Anheuser-Busch, cancel all your orders, and Miller Coors from now on.

01:39:00.000 Which aren't indistinguishable, by the way.

01:39:02.000 I mean I'm sure someone will disagree with me on that, but aren't all those beers just the same beer?

01:39:07.000 I think it's just garbage anyway, but like how many people go to the bar or go to a restaurant with their friends and

01:39:11.000 family and order a Bud Light while they're having dinner? 0.98

01:39:13.000 Like, some people maybe, but not really.

01:39:16.000 And would you really be upset if it was, like, a High Life instead of a Bud Light?

01:39:19.000 Like, I—you remember back in— I likes way better than Bud.

01:39:22.000 Yeah, like, remember back in Cheers, like, in the show?

01:39:24.000 It's the champagne beer, right?

01:39:25.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 Yeah, like, but you remember, you ever watch Cheers, and they'd all go up, and they'd be like, uh, give me a beer, Sam.

01:39:31.000 And then Sam would pour him a beer.

01:39:32.000 And no one ever knew what that beer was, like what the brand was.

01:39:35.000 It was just like bar beer.

01:39:37.000 I don't know.

01:39:37.000 I feel like if you go into a bar, like there are IPAs, there's Guinness or something that's like a different thing.

01:39:43.000 And how many local breweries are there?

01:39:45.000 Like, go spend your money there.

01:39:46.000 You don't need to do this.

01:39:47.000 The other thing is if you stop buying Anheuser-Busch and put all of that money into doubling your

01:39:53.000 Miller-Coors purchases, then at the end of the quarter Anheuser-Busch will report a massive

01:40:00.000 decline in sales and Miller-Coors will announce a major increase in sales.

01:40:05.000 And I think this happened with Netflix.

01:40:07.000 Netflix lost like two million subscribers and then it was like serious problems at Netflix

01:40:13.000 and now they're recovering.

01:40:15.000 And I think what happened was they had a bunch of weird, creepy, you know, abusive, child

01:40:20.000 exploitative content.

01:40:21.000 Conservatives in large numbers started cancelling.

01:40:24.000 They panicked and then started cancelling these woke shows.

01:40:27.000 Conservatives started signing back up.

01:40:29.000 Now they're recovering again.

01:40:30.000 You have to vote with your dollars.

01:40:32.000 Yeah, and I've heard people, like, kind of make the argument that this is all about, like, kind of ESG, like, D.I.A., D.I.E.

01:40:39.000 stuff.

01:40:41.000 And there might be some truth to that, that there's some financial incentive there, but there's still something to their customers buying their products.

01:40:49.000 That's still, foundationally, what their business is about.

01:40:52.000 And if they're losing a huge portion of their customer base, that's going to negatively impact them.

01:40:58.000 And I agree with you, Tim, where there probably was a time where I was like, yeah, forget these boycotts, it's silly, I don't care about the politics of my... You know, I used to say things like, which I kind of disagree...

01:41:10.000 Well, I used to say things like, look, I don't care if I go into my grocery store, whether the guy who owns it voted the way I voted or supported the war, like, whatever.

01:41:19.000 But when there's such a like...

01:41:23.000 Like, there's such a centralized attempt to, like, indoctrinate, to, like, infiltrate every inch of the culture with this.

01:41:30.000 At a certain point, there's got to be a cost for that.

01:41:33.000 Like, if we can impose some cost on something, like, I don't care.

01:41:37.000 I'm a libertarian.

01:41:38.000 I don't care what adults do.

01:41:40.000 I don't care what you call yourself or how you identify.

01:41:43.000 I don't care.

01:41:44.000 Live your life, man.

01:41:45.000 If you're happier that way, be happier that way.

01:41:47.000 But when there's this entire effort to like indoctrinate children and have this massive push of what is objectively abnormal behavior and trying to make it normal, it's like at a certain point there has to be a cost for that.

01:41:59.000 So like, maybe it has got to just be some type of boycott.

01:42:03.000 Something.

01:42:04.000 Matthew Rickham says, Tim, why in the ever-living frack did you make a video about alternatives to Bud Light and not even mention Samuel Adams?

01:42:11.000 He's literally a founding father.

01:42:13.000 Who owns Sam Adams?

01:42:14.000 Sam Adams is not a bad beer.

01:42:16.000 But who owns it?

01:42:16.000 I like Sam Adams.

01:42:17.000 I don't know.

01:42:18.000 Is it not Jim Brewer?

01:42:20.000 I'd like to think the Adams family has kept it in the house.

01:42:23.000 The Boston Beer Co.

01:42:25.000 Boston Beer. Miller Coors is one company, for people that understand, because I saw someone mention it's Miller and

01:42:29.000 Coors are owned by the same thing.

01:42:30.000 Yeah, it's Miller Coors is one company. Anheuser-Busch is another company, and they own a whole bunch of beers.

01:42:35.000 So, uh, sure, Sam Adams, I guess. But I'm also a bit, you know, reluctant because for all I know, these companies are

01:42:41.000 planned the same way.

01:42:41.000 All these giant corporations are on board with this stuff.

01:42:44.000 But still, you're checking them by saying, don't do this openly.

01:42:48.000 I personally think you should buy local, I think you should buy small, but if you can't, then don't pick the one that's shoving it in your face that they are mocking basically all of your values.

01:42:59.000 Alright, what do we got?

01:43:00.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:43:03.000 Ted, too, says airstrike on Al-Awlaki guarantees kill in action.

01:43:06.000 Briefers come to Trump about airstrike on target with kids present, says no.

01:43:10.000 Boots on ground instead, much more judicious.

01:43:12.000 Girl gets caught in crossfire, airstrike would be worse.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, I understand that, so... Well, that's the eight-year-old girl who is also an American citizen who died in that Trump strike.

01:43:22.000 Or the Trump raid, I should say.

01:43:23.000 There's a difference in the stories.

01:43:25.000 And I would be open to an inquiry into both, absolutely.

01:43:29.000 But in the story of the commando raid, it is alleged by people who were there that this girl died due to the commando raid, whereas with the airstrike, it is not in dispute at all.

01:43:37.000 Well, look, I mean, that is true, although I do think it's pretty reasonable to assume that what those people were saying was correct.

01:43:44.000 And the girl, from what I remember of the details, was pretty gruesome, like bled out and died.

01:43:48.000 It's horrible stuff.

01:43:49.000 This is what war is.

01:43:50.000 It's really, really horrible.

01:43:51.000 Um, but this is why at the beginning I said let's just even focus for, like, the sake of argument on just the Anwar al-Awlaki strike because that is admitted that he was the target of this strike and I'm sorry if we're to have anything, if we're even going to pretend to be a free society, that if you're an American citizen you have to be charged with a crime, you get a lawyer, you get a judge, and you get a By the way, you can try someone who doesn't show up to their trial.

01:44:18.000 They could have tried Anwar al-Awlaki in America and been like, look, he's in Yemen, he's refusing to come back to face trial, the prosecutor can present this evidence, a judge can say, yep, overwhelming evidence, but there's got to be something.

01:44:29.000 This is all law now, though.

01:44:31.000 All the stuff you listed off, these are not only, it's not just law, it's stuff that's supposed to be protected in the most sacred of pieces of paper in all human history.

01:44:41.000 Yeah, like and and and to think that that it's not just ignored by the government, which makes perfect sense

01:44:49.000 Why wouldn't the government want to ignore the things that limit them but ignored by the population, you know 0.99

01:44:54.000 The people don't care And when you bring up, hey, Barack Obama killed an American by a drone strike without a trial, people look at you like you've got a penis growing out of your head. 0.99

01:45:05.000 Well, I think people don't know. 1.00

01:45:06.000 I think people forget all of this.

01:45:09.000 We are very aware of what's going on.

01:45:11.000 We tend to follow the news, right?

01:45:12.000 But there are tons of people who don't.

01:45:14.000 And so if people say that, they'd be like, you're making that up.

01:45:16.000 That's fake news.

01:45:18.000 They don't even know.

01:45:19.000 Look, I've had people still say to me who go like, you know, they'll be like, what was Obama's biggest scandal?

01:45:24.000 Wearing a tan suit?

01:45:27.000 And you're like, dude, I mean, he had a secret kill list.

01:45:31.000 He armed Al Qaeda.

01:45:32.000 Like he's killed American citizens.

01:45:35.000 He started like five wars.

01:45:37.000 You're like, well, two of them were going when he came in, but he did.

01:45:40.000 I thought he started seven.

01:45:42.000 Well, he had Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:45:44.000 He surged in Afghanistan.

01:45:47.000 He started Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, drone campaign in Pakistan.

01:45:55.000 You know what?

01:45:55.000 You might be right, Tim.

01:45:56.000 We might be up to seven.

01:45:58.000 I thought it was seven.

01:45:59.000 Inferior.

01:46:02.000 I have friends that are in the music industry and stuff, and they talk about it.

01:46:07.000 Well, okay, no, actually, I think you're right.

01:46:09.000 Didn't start Iraq and Afghanistan.

01:46:11.000 Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan were Obama... Those were Obama's. 0.85

01:46:16.000 Obama started those completely.

01:46:17.000 And we talk about Donald Trump as if he was so bad!

01:46:21.000 Like, Barack Obama started seven wars, millions of people died because of his...

01:46:26.000 I think we're clarified.

01:46:27.000 He started five.

01:46:28.000 He was fighting over seven wars.

01:46:30.000 He was at war every single day of his administration.

01:46:32.000 And by the way, Trump was that bad.

01:46:34.000 It's just compared to all these other blood soaked monsters that you can even make an argument that they'll go, at least he didn't start a new one. 0.85

01:46:42.000 Now he did continue the worst of them.

01:46:46.000 Well, not really.

01:46:47.000 I mean, look, again, we kind of went through this last time.

01:46:50.000 If anything, he was like unhandcuffing the military and the civilian, the rate of civilian deaths increased.

01:46:56.000 He always talked about ending them.

01:46:58.000 He always talked about pulling them back.

01:46:59.000 And I will give him credit that he did.

01:47:02.000 He did negotiate the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

01:47:05.000 He was trying to get out of Syria as well.

01:47:07.000 Yes, he was.

01:47:07.000 And he was being lied to.

01:47:09.000 Yes, that's true.

01:47:10.000 But Biden is the one who really bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal.

01:47:14.000 But I even give Biden credit for at least going through with it, because there were generals who wanted to keep the war going.

01:47:20.000 But then, of course, he got us right into this proxy war in Ukraine, so all that credit goes out the window.

01:47:23.000 I genuinely believe that Trump does not want these wars.

01:47:27.000 I think he doesn't care for them, he doesn't understand them, he doesn't want to be involved.

01:47:31.000 I just think there's no circumstance where you snap your fingers and they're over.

01:47:34.000 And you look at Afghanistan and what Joe, I think Joe Biden did this intentionally, as a, if you make us pull out, this is what you get, kind of thing.

01:47:43.000 It's possible, or it's possible that people not quite at Biden's level, but like top brass military did that almost as a like, you know, like for the same reason. 0.99

01:47:51.000 I agree with you that I think in Trump's gut, he's like, all these wars are stupid and we shouldn't have fought them. 0.99

01:47:57.000 I do agree with that. 1.00

01:47:57.000 It seems to be the case. 1.00

01:47:59.000 All right.

01:48:00.000 Death Magnet says, gun control is treason.

01:48:02.000 Change my mind.

01:48:03.000 Actually, I think the way you frame taxes as self-incrimination is the most important thing.

01:48:08.000 The idea that you have to incriminate yourself to the government in a potential crime is very interesting.

01:48:12.000 Yeah, it's the reason why there is a Fifth Amendment. 0.75

01:48:14.000 It's like that's a pretty basic function of freedom, is that you can't be forced to incriminate yourself.

01:48:20.000 But yeah, I don't think, I'm certainly not going to, I don't think anyone here is going to change their mind about that.

01:48:24.000 I kind of feel like most people don't want the income tax.

01:48:28.000 I don't know.

01:48:29.000 They say they don't, but then it's... Well, a lot of people want the benefits.

01:48:31.000 I mean, a lot of people want other people's money, you know?

01:48:36.000 All right, Bobcat says, Dave Smith, you talk a lot, but will you actually come out and meet the people if you run, or will you only do pressers like every other Libertarian?

01:48:45.000 What do you mean, meet the people?

01:48:48.000 There's no one more amongst the people than me.

01:48:50.000 I'm a comedian.

01:48:51.000 I'm out constantly.

01:48:53.000 All I do is meet people.

01:48:55.000 I don't even know what that means.

01:48:58.000 Just do pressers? 0.66

01:48:59.000 Is that what Libertarians did or whatever?

01:49:01.000 Is that what Biden did?

01:49:02.000 He campaigned from his house in Delaware?

01:49:04.000 I don't even think that's true of past libertarian candidates.

01:49:06.000 Look, it's the internet, anyone can get on it, anyone can say stuff, don't worry.

01:49:09.000 Well, but also, I will say that it's like, look, there is something to be said for the fact that, like, it's, you know, it's great to meet people, and I'm out all the time and meet, I love meeting, like, people who listen to my show and stuff like that, but there is something where we have this, like, kind of technology age now where you can do a show like this and speak to a much, much larger group of people than you can by just, like, holding an event with a couple hundred people.

01:49:35.000 Yeah.

01:49:36.000 All right.

01:49:37.000 John Deslottes says, What if Don Trump gets imprisoned and Don Jr.

01:49:41.000 runs on the platform of his father's imprisonment, gets elected, then pardons his father, and becomes Don Jr.' 's VP, then Trump 2028?

01:49:47.000 Well, I'll break it down.

01:49:49.000 Not gonna happen.

01:49:50.000 There is the- When does Barron run?

01:49:53.000 Yes.

01:49:53.000 Well, you know about those books, right?

01:49:55.000 Yes, I do.

01:49:55.000 As soon as he gets tall enough.

01:49:58.000 I own it, but I've never read it.

01:50:00.000 So there is a possibility of, like, Trump going to prison and Don Jr.

01:50:03.000 running, but you cannot, at the federal level, pardon someone in prison at the state level.

01:50:07.000 Right, that's right.

01:50:08.000 So that's just never gonna happen.

01:50:09.000 Right, right.

01:50:10.000 Correct.

01:50:11.000 It does—look, it seems so crazy, the idea that Donald Trump would actually be, like, convicted of this, but then you are like, it's gonna be a New York jury?

01:50:18.000 Yeah.

01:50:18.000 You know?

01:50:19.000 Well, there are, like, what are the odds he can get one in Staten Island?

01:50:22.000 That's, like, the conversation I heard yesterday.

01:50:23.000 Staten Island will get him off in a second, even after Staten Island.

01:50:26.000 Trump will be just fine in Staten Island.

01:50:30.000 All right, what is this?

01:50:31.000 What do we got here?

01:50:32.000 We'll grab some more.

01:50:35.000 Hayden Lewis says, Hey Tim and gang, I just want to give a shout out to Ian for always trying to white pill us.

01:50:39.000 It gives me a small sense of hope that we could fix the US.

01:50:43.000 You know, absolutely.

01:50:43.000 I respect it.

01:50:45.000 I just think sometimes it feels like it's coming from a place of naivety.

01:50:50.000 You know?

01:50:51.000 When he says things like, we gotta pardon Hillary Clinton, I'm like... I don't know about that.

01:50:56.000 Would you, Dave, pardon Hillary Clinton?

01:50:58.000 Absolutely not.

01:51:00.000 No, none of the people up at the very top need to be pardoned.

01:51:03.000 Like, Fauci should be in prison.

01:51:05.000 Gavin Newsom and Cuomo and all the lockdown governors should be in prison.

01:51:09.000 All the high-level war criminals should be in prison.

01:51:11.000 Would you put Trump in prison?

01:51:13.000 Sure, if I was putting all of them in prison.

01:51:14.000 If you could get everybody?

01:51:15.000 Let me just say this.

01:51:16.000 I wouldn't just put Donald Trump in prison.

01:51:18.000 Donald Trump should be charged with war crimes and violations of the Constitution and international law.

01:51:24.000 But I say this about every president, like every president of my lifetime.

01:51:28.000 But that being said, I mean this is all kind of like in fantasy here, but that being said, I think if you want to be white-pilled on moving forward, I do think that there's like, there's a certain cut-off line And then other people, like, when you're trying to, like, almost, like, overthrow a corrupt authoritarian regime and instill a new regime, there does have to be forgiveness and reconciliation on a mass level.

01:51:51.000 And I'm not talking about Hillary Clinton.

01:51:53.000 I'm talking about, like, your neighbor who supported the lockdowns.

01:51:56.000 I'm saying, like, regular people who were just really bad on a lot of these things, like, You're not going to lock all of them up.

01:52:03.000 Can you imagine what the second reconstruction era is going to look like?

01:52:06.000 You know, like Trump sending federal troops to California, Washington, and Oregon to occupy and replace their governments.

01:52:12.000 Well, we'll see.

01:52:14.000 He didn't do it during the riots, so I don't think he's going to do it.

01:52:16.000 Kyle Bigelow says, Dave, love you man, been to two SFs, sent my folks to your show in St.

01:52:22.000 Louis, listened to you and your people for years.

01:52:24.000 What you're talking about is fresh and fit and biological, red-pilling, exposing feminism of all walks. 1.00

01:52:29.000 Yeah, I thought it was Fresh N' Fit podcast too.

01:52:32.000 Wait, I didn't, I'm sorry, I didn't follow any of that.

01:52:34.000 Oh, right, right, right.

01:52:35.000 Oh, the Manosphere podcast?

01:52:36.000 Yeah, yeah, you were talking about Fresh N' Fit.

01:52:38.000 But what did you say he's been to two SFs?

01:52:40.000 I don't know what that is.

01:52:41.000 Skank Fest, I'm sorry.

01:52:42.000 Skank Fest, yes, that's awesome dude.

01:52:45.000 Well, I've never heard anyone call it SFs before, but yes, okay.

01:52:48.000 Got that, and then those were the Manosphere podcast.

01:52:50.000 Yeah, look, nothing against those guys.

01:52:52.000 I'm sure, like, they all, I probably agree with them on a lot of stuff, you know what I mean?

01:52:56.000 It's just, I'm just going off what clips I see on, like, the algorithm and stuff.

01:52:59.000 A lot of it's just delivery.

01:53:00.000 I mean, a lot of the time you can say these things in a more measured fashion.

01:53:06.000 It's really about the delivery, because the the content you can deliver in a way where you're not going

01:53:12.000 to make clips.

01:53:14.000 But the clips should point.

01:53:15.000 I probably, I've seen, I don't even know enough about him to like really have an opinion or

01:53:19.000 formulate one about him. But like, like even like Andrew Tate, I probably agree with a lot of stuff

01:53:23.000 that he says. I just hate promoting pimp shit to young kids. 1.00

01:53:27.000 I hate that. 0.99

01:53:27.000 Like, I'm a family man, and I don't, like, just as somebody who's, like, lived kind of a degenerate lifestyle for years and then settled down and got married and had kids, and I'm like, it's so much better and more meaningful and healthier to, like, be in this, like, in a great marriage. 0.99

01:53:42.000 I hate anyone promoting to, like, young guys who are 22, 23, that, like, you should aspire to be a pimp. 0.99

01:53:49.000 It's all gay and nasty. 1.00

01:53:51.000 We had some debauchery? 1.00

01:53:52.000 You're kidding.

01:53:53.000 At one phase.

01:53:55.000 Let me ask, do you feel like you can realize the value of the lifestyle you have right now because you went through that phase in life?

01:54:02.000 Like, I'm not saying people should go through it, but do you think being able to see the difference is meaningful?

01:54:05.000 I mean, yes.

01:54:05.000 It's more of a contrast for me, and so it makes it that much clearer.

01:54:09.000 But that being said, it's like, if you were paralyzed from the neck down for a few months and then you really appreciated the ability to walk, I still wouldn't recommend getting paralyzed from the neck down.

01:54:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:54:21.000 Yeah, to me it probably makes the contrast that much more clear.

01:54:24.000 I still don't recommend any of that.

01:54:26.000 It's bad for you, it's bad for your soul, it's bad for society.

01:54:30.000 None of it's good.

01:54:31.000 Young men should aspire to find a good woman and start a family with them.

01:54:36.000 That's what you should be aspiring to do.

01:54:37.000 It's much more important than any of this political stuff that we talk about, which I do love talking about.

01:54:42.000 Cliff the Misfit says, with the results of the Wisconsin Supreme Court election, the question of Trump vs. DeSantis is no longer one of preference.

01:54:49.000 The GOP nominee has to win Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada.

01:54:52.000 And guess which three swing states Trump is the most unpopular in?

01:54:57.000 Well, there you go.

01:54:59.000 John Casey says, didn't Trump ask for $2,000 for Americans and nothing else, and Congress forced the $600 for Americans and millions for Pakistani gender studies?

01:55:08.000 I don't think Trump should have signed it, but I think he wanted to do something.

01:55:12.000 Okay, but he signed it into law.

01:55:13.000 It does irk me, just the constant excuse-making for Donald Trump.

01:55:17.000 Look, he was framed for treason, these charges are complete nonsense, he says a lot of good things, but he signed it into law.

01:55:24.000 Like he did.

01:55:25.000 And he had a lot of leverage right there that like, look, Donald Trump, it's just like,

01:55:29.000 just run the counterfactual in your head, right?

01:55:31.000 If all Donald Trump wanted was $2,000 payments for Americans, right?

01:55:36.000 And he didn't want all of the corporate giveaways in there, then Donald Trump could have vetoed that bill,

01:55:41.000 written a bill himself that said, one page $2,000 for all Americans,

01:55:46.000 made a video about it, you know, as Donald Trump said, I'm sending this bill to Congress.

01:55:50.000 You guys vote for this right now.

01:55:52.000 I'll sign it tonight.

01:55:53.000 But none of these corporate giveaways in there and just created enormous pressure.

01:55:58.000 And instead he sent all of his people to ragdoll the best congressman, Thomas Massey, for being the one guy to oppose it.

01:56:05.000 So don't give me these like constant excuses for like, he had no choice.

01:56:09.000 He had no, he did have a choice.

01:56:10.000 He had all the leverage.

01:56:11.000 This is what I say.

01:56:11.000 Yeah.

01:56:11.000 about like when Patreon claimed, oh, if we don't ban this guy, Mastercard will stop funding

01:56:17.000 transactions and then everyone gets banned.

01:56:19.000 And my response is, and this actually happened, tell Mastercard that you're going to send

01:56:25.000 100 million audience members who have lost access to their favorite podcasts to them

01:56:32.000 when that happens.

01:56:33.000 So when all of the biggest and most influential people in the world are asking where their

01:56:37.000 money is, I'll say, I don't know, ask Mastercard.

01:56:39.000 Let's see how you handle that.

01:56:40.000 Let's see how your shares handle that.

01:56:41.000 There's tremendous leverage.

01:56:42.000 Yeah, you just have to be a little bit creative with this stuff and you can find solutions to all of this.

01:56:47.000 But it's like you said, Trump could have done a national address where he said, We are not giving corporations free money.

01:56:53.000 The money goes to the American people.

01:56:56.000 If Congress puts forward a bill just for the American people, I'll sign it. 1.00

01:56:59.000 But if they try and give their corporate buddies and the lobbyists free money, I'm not doing it.

01:57:04.000 And then everyone will be rambling at Congress like, what's wrong with you?

01:57:06.000 It would have been so easy to flip it right back around on them.

01:57:09.000 And again, there's just so many things like this.

01:57:11.000 Like, look, he was friends with Rand Paul, at least to some degree.

01:57:15.000 Like, they went golfing and stuff like that.

01:57:17.000 And like, why couldn't he have just gone to Rand Paul and been like, hey, Rand Paul, you're a doctor, even though he's an eye doctor, but whatever.

01:57:26.000 You're a doctor.

01:57:27.000 Who's a really good epidemiologist?

01:57:29.000 Cause I can't have this Fauci guy here all year long.

01:57:32.000 So like give me the best one and let's bring him on board and I'm firing Fauci.

01:57:36.000 Like he could have done so many things better.

01:57:39.000 And my whole point about this is like I'm not just trying to say like he has to be perfect before we can support him.

01:57:45.000 I'm just saying that recognize that like the stakes are so high that like this just isn't good enough.

01:57:51.000 Keeping Fauci on the job through all of 2020, that's not good enough.

01:57:55.000 Look at what it caused.

01:57:56.000 We gotta, like, set our standards a little bit higher and not make excuses for these politicians.

01:58:01.000 No matter who they are.

01:58:02.000 Your side or the other side.

01:58:03.000 Alright.

01:58:05.000 Mandy says, 100% a deal is needed to give Crimea to Russia.

01:58:08.000 Putin doesn't want nukes and people who don't know the historical structure of that deal need to shut up.

01:58:13.000 The Ukraine-US expenditures need to be dealt with when we have new leaders.

01:58:17.000 Pretty sure Putin has nukes.

01:58:19.000 Well, I think she's saying that Putin doesn't want to nuke our country.

01:58:24.000 Well, no, of course.

01:58:25.000 Look, no one wants to use nukes when they know that nukes will be dropped on them if they use them.

01:58:32.000 It's only a move out of desperation.

01:58:35.000 Only in the most desperate circumstances would it happen.

01:58:37.000 But that's what people who are rooting so hard for Vladimir Putin to lose and be completely humiliated and on the verge of being overthrown need to think about.

01:58:45.000 You're rooting for the one situation where he might use them.

01:58:48.000 Monster says you should get Dave on with Destiny.

01:58:51.000 So actually we've been planning the show for a while and it's just an issue of we are waiting for the new studio to be built but the idea for the show is to actually have like Dave Smith with Destiny and then have someone moderate and have that kind of crossfire style show that used to be on.

01:59:07.000 I'd love to.

01:59:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:07.000 Absolutely.

01:59:08.000 I think it would be enlightening.

01:59:09.000 Very enlightening.

01:59:10.000 Charlie Kirk says he's always down for more shows.

01:59:12.000 We did the mock poster of Vosch and Charlie Kirk when they came on the show and debated quite a bit.

01:59:17.000 So I debate him, I debate Charlie Kirk, any of these guys.

01:59:20.000 I love doing stuff like that, so I'm down to, like, whoever any of these guys are.

01:59:24.000 Absolutely.

01:59:24.000 I'm happy to talk to any of them.

01:59:25.000 The issue is, we just need the new studio to be built, so we have the space for it, because right now we've got, like, Pop Culture Crisis and Timcast IRL.

01:59:32.000 The new studio space is going to have, uh, potentially even, like, three filming locations inside of it, but one large general space that is multi-purpose for a bunch of different shows, so.

01:59:41.000 I just want to do Clint Russell's poker show.

01:59:43.000 That's what I'm looking forward to.

01:59:44.000 Poker with the boys!

01:59:45.000 I'll debate anyone if you'll book me on poker with the boys.

01:59:47.000 Oh, bro, hands down.

01:59:48.000 I mean, I think Poker with the Boys could be really unifying in that having people who normally would argue, not talking about overt politics, but having more... Like, there's a story I told earlier today.

02:00:01.000 This guy I met at the poker tables said he thought the J6er should be executed. 1.00

02:00:06.000 No joke.

02:00:07.000 But at the same time, as I'm like, that is the craziest thing I've ever heard, we were laughing and playing this fun game together where there was one hand where, you know, he's in hand, I'm not.

02:00:19.000 He loses and he goes to showdown with Ace-5 offsuit.

02:00:24.000 And then he loses, and then he's like, I can't win with this hand. 0.83

02:00:27.000 It's just ridiculous.

02:00:28.000 Every single time I get it, as he's saying this, I look down at Ace-5 offsuit, and I'm like, oh, this is too good if I win.

02:00:34.000 And then we go to showdown.

02:00:36.000 I know I lost, and I go, you deserve to win, and I flip it over, and he busts out laughing.

02:00:40.000 That's the kind of fun thing that brings people together, despite the fact he said J6er should be executed. 0.99

02:00:45.000 I don't like it.

02:00:45.000 This is what kind of why I'm like the essence of being a libertarian is hating politics

02:00:49.000 Because it is like if not for politics we could all just be getting along

02:00:52.000 You know what I mean, but if it's not for like whose political opinions are won

02:00:55.000 By the way, this poker show is this is gonna be behind the paywall. No, oh, there's gonna be on YouTube. Uh, maybe

02:01:01.000 I was gonna say, it's gonna have to be live.

02:01:04.000 If it's live, I might get your channel banned on YouTube.

02:01:07.000 I tend to say things you're not allowed to say on YouTube when I'm playing poker.

02:01:10.000 We'll see what happens.

02:01:13.000 Obviously, the audience size is going to be for YouTube, but the more fun may be Rumble.

02:01:19.000 Yeah, because then I gotta really, you know, if I start losing chips, I'm gonna say all types of stuff.

02:01:24.000 But, alright.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 05, 2023

Timcast IRL - Trump Indictment BACKFIRES, Even Liberals Say ITS BUNK AND Will FAIL w-Dave Smith

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