Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Trump ROASTS CNN+ For FAILING, Network FAILS In Less Than A Month w-Lauren Southern

00:00:00.000 CNN plus in less than 30 days is being shut down.

00:00:13.000 It's defunct.

00:00:14.000 And Donald Trump has come out mocking them.

00:00:16.000 Bless you, Trump.

00:00:17.000 Thank you so much for saying what so many of us think.

00:00:19.000 We hate CNN.

00:00:20.000 We're glad to see it go.

00:00:21.000 And I love it.

00:00:22.000 Blue check journalists are like, well, people need to realize that CNN Plus was the only news streaming service, and that was a bold bet. 1.00

00:00:30.000 And apparently people just don't want quality journalism.

00:00:33.000 Believe it or not, they're actually saying that, and I'm like, yo, Fox Nation has been around for four years and is fine.

00:00:39.000 The Daily Wire is expanding like crazy, and so are we.

00:00:42.000 Now, we do political commentary, but what do you think it is when Chris Wallace argues with Jen Psaki?

00:00:47.000 Is that news reporting?

00:00:48.000 No. 0.99

00:00:49.000 CNN is trash, and they failed, and they deserve to fail, and Elon Musk is gonna buy Twitter. 0.99

00:00:54.000 Lauren Southern's here. 0.99

00:00:55.000 Thanks for having me.

00:00:55.000 Wow.

00:00:57.000 I'm glad you got that out of your system, Tim.

00:00:59.000 I'm so happy.

00:00:59.000 I'm so glad.

00:01:00.000 I don't think people realize that CNN, or they're just realizing that it was like the thing you watched at the airport because it was the only thing on.

00:01:09.000 Like no one's going out of their way to subscribe to CNN.

00:01:12.000 And now we've got conclusive proof of this.

00:01:14.000 But you know, the amazing thing is the other day Seamus was mentioning that it's like nobody watches CNN.

00:01:20.000 So they're like, I have an idea.

00:01:21.000 Let's charge them for it. 1.00

00:01:22.000 Yeah, but but but wait wait, you know credit to Seamus.

00:01:24.000 It's actually worse than that.

00:01:26.000 They were like nobody watches CNN Let's charge them to watch our b-sides Like dude, no one wants to see Jake Tapper's book club.

00:01:34.000 Like we don't watch him as it is Why do we want to watch him talk about his books?

00:01:38.000 What were you thinking?

00:01:39.000 He's actually my favorite content creator.

00:01:41.000 Jake Tapper.

00:01:43.000 Man, I wish I could remember.

00:01:45.000 There was someone on Twitter who was saying that we should refer to all of these media pundits as content creators, just because you can't even imagine anyone referring to one of these people as their favorite.

00:01:54.000 I got the vibe.

00:01:55.000 Well, no, because they would get so angry by being called that.

00:01:57.000 That's also true.

00:01:57.000 I'm a journalist!

00:01:58.000 Let's start calling them influencers.

00:02:00.000 It's just good enough to maybe watch if it's free.

00:02:03.000 That was the vibe I always got from CNN.

00:02:04.000 Well, it's just the default.

00:02:06.000 So we got Seamus.

00:02:08.000 I'm Seamus.

00:02:09.000 We just uploaded a cartoon today on Freedom Tunes.

00:02:11.000 This video is currently in first place out of our last 10 videos.

00:02:15.000 So I think you guys will really enjoy it.

00:02:17.000 The audience is currently really enjoying it.

00:02:19.000 I love you all.

00:02:20.000 Go check it out.

00:02:21.000 What's up, dudes?

00:02:22.000 I just rolled a 21.

00:02:23.000 Get it going on.

00:02:24.000 It's your 21st birthday today.

00:02:25.000 Happy birthday.

00:02:26.000 Are you telling me you rolled a 20 and a 1 at the same time?

00:02:29.000 It's April 21st.

00:02:30.000 Did you just say?

00:02:31.000 All right.

00:02:32.000 21 for April 21st.

00:02:33.000 Let's go.

00:02:33.000 I was expecting you to finish that sentence with a joint, not 21.

00:02:38.000 I just rolled a joint.

00:02:39.000 No, I did not.

00:02:40.000 No, we're not going to do that.

00:02:41.000 We're not doing that on this show.

00:02:42.000 That's a different kind of show.

00:02:43.000 Love Lauren.

00:02:44.000 Glad she's back so soon.

00:02:45.000 Glad she's in the neighborhood.

00:02:46.000 It's going to be a great show.

00:02:47.000 Yeah, what do we look like, Joe Rogan with Elon Musk?

00:02:47.000 Let's go.

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00:03:34.000 TimCast.com reports Trump mocks CNN and low-rated Chris Wallace over failed streaming service.

00:03:41.000 Saying, quote, it was like an empty desert out there despite spending hundreds of millions of dollars and the hiring of low-rated Chris Wallace, a man who tried so hard to be his father, Mike, but lacked the talent and whatever else is necessary to be a star.

00:03:55.000 In any event, it's just one more piece of CNN fake news that we don't have to bother with anymore, Trump continued.

00:04:01.000 Wow.

00:04:02.000 He said congratulations to CNN Plus on their decision to immediately fold for a lack of ratings or viewers in any way, shape or form.

00:04:11.000 Absolutely incredible.

00:04:12.000 Bye-bye, CNN.

00:04:14.000 I can't believe he just threatened their safety like that.

00:04:16.000 It's horrific.

00:04:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:17.000 I will say, Mike Wallace was pretty awesome.

00:04:19.000 That I agree with him with.

00:04:21.000 Could you imagine being Chris Wallace and being like, you're at Fox News and then Brian Stelter walks up and he's like, would you like to do a show?

00:04:28.000 And he's like, well, I think that sounds like a great idea.

00:04:31.000 And then he moves over and then within three weeks, he's fired.

00:04:34.000 I'm obsessed with reading all the articles about his mental state, like the updates.

00:04:38.000 It's like Chris Wallace telling interns to read him the numbers every hour.

00:04:42.000 Chris Wallace having mental breakdown.

00:04:44.000 Have you not seen these articles?

00:04:46.000 Like he was worried about his ratings?

00:04:48.000 Yeah, he kept asking them to give him updates on the numbers every day.

00:04:51.000 I would promise you that TimCast has more subs.

00:04:54.000 Do you think there are people out there who are like, you know, they're going to work and then they walk up to the water cooler and there's like a dude pouring water and they go, hey, hey, you see that Chris Wallace yesterday?

00:05:04.000 Oh yeah, good stuff!

00:05:05.000 I gotta see what Wallace has to say, you know?

00:05:06.000 Every night I go home, what is he up to?

00:05:08.000 What's his take? 0.97

00:05:08.000 I think the definition of pathetic is when you care about what the audience thinks. 0.97

00:05:13.000 Appeals wants the audience to feel something, that's pathetic.

00:05:17.000 I'm not 100% sure if that's the only use of it, but that's a big part of what that word means. 0.96

00:05:21.000 Pathetic?

00:05:21.000 Really?

00:05:23.000 I'll double check all that, I want to look into it.

00:05:25.000 Have you guys watched it at all?

00:05:27.000 Jokingly bought a membership to see what's there?

00:05:27.000 CNN Plus?

00:05:31.000 That's not funny.

00:05:32.000 That's not a joke.

00:05:33.000 Why would we do that?

00:05:34.000 You know what I can do with $3?

00:05:38.000 I could do so much that's worth more than what CNN says.

00:05:41.000 Is it only $3?

00:05:42.000 They cut it in half because people weren't signing up for $6.

00:05:46.000 So they reduced it to $2.99 lifetime or whatever.

00:05:51.000 And I'm just like, do I want a cheeseburger or do I want to watch CNN?

00:05:56.000 People aren't paying for this.

00:05:57.000 Tucker Carlson Originals is taking off.

00:06:00.000 You've got lots of these things starting up.

00:06:01.000 It would have to be pretty bad for them to say, like, oh, we're not just gonna change strategy a bit.

00:06:07.000 We're gonna cut it off right now, like, three weeks in.

00:06:09.000 It would have to be brutal.

00:06:11.000 Like, I'd be curious to see those numbers behind the scenes.

00:06:13.000 It was 150,000 paying monthly members.

00:06:17.000 So, if you're doing, you know, six bucks a month or whatever, they're not even cracking a million bucks per month.

00:06:22.000 So, you know, they got a good amount of money coming in per year, but with a $300 million initial investment, and they were planning on putting a billion dollars into it.

00:06:31.000 It's Warner Brothers, isn't it?

00:06:32.000 Just pouring money into it?

00:06:33.000 Warner Brothers merges with Discovery, and what they're saying now is they're like, Because of the merger, CNN Plus didn't fit our plans and we want everything housed under one streaming service.

00:06:44.000 And I'm like, oh yeah, if CNN got a million subs in one month, they would not have canceled it.

00:06:49.000 They would have been celebrating. 1.00

00:06:51.000 CNN Plus failed because CNN Plus is garbage because CNN is garbage and garbage is not worth buying. 1.00

00:06:58.000 Well, it's not just that they're wrong. 1.00

00:07:00.000 It's that they're boring.

00:07:01.000 There are content creators who I disagree with, who I can tune into every now and again, just to get their perspective on something.

00:07:06.000 Are you talking about me?

00:07:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:07:08.000 Ian specifically.

00:07:10.000 But the fact is, if you want people to pay for your subscription service, you have to have said something at least mildly interesting at some point in your life, and I don't think you'd qualify to work at CNN if you were capable of that.

00:07:20.000 Look at this!

00:07:21.000 Tim Cass goes on.

00:07:22.000 John Nicosia, the former managing editor of Mediaite, recently reported he had sources saying Wallace was having daily breakdowns over the state of CNN.

00:07:30.000 Quote, source, Chris Wallace is having daily breakdowns over the miserable launch of CNN Plus.

00:07:36.000 Wants a CNN show or is threatening to walk, they go on.

00:07:39.000 He is having staffers count how many times a day his promo is playing. 0.92

00:07:44.000 Yeah, pathetic comes from pathetikos, which is Greek for subject to feeling sensitive or capable of emotion.

00:07:50.000 It wasn't necessarily tied to an audience, but it was usually because of the way someone else treated someone.

00:07:56.000 I would not want to be Chris Wallace's agent right now.

00:07:58.000 He's, you know, Chris Wallace on the phone, what's going on with my show?

00:08:02.000 I have a solution.

00:08:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:08:04.000 You know what I would pay for?

00:08:05.000 I would pay if they moved them, transferred all these people from CNN plus to Disney plus and like cast them in an early 2000s style Disney movie.

00:08:13.000 So bright.

00:08:13.000 Like Luck of the Irish.

00:08:15.000 Wait, why are you looking at me?

00:08:16.000 It always has to go there.

00:08:18.000 They had these like horrendous, amazingly offensive old Disney shows from the early 2000s.

00:08:22.000 Those were acceptable.

00:08:24.000 They cast everyone from CNN in one of those and like as like high school People too, since they always cast adults as high school characters in Disney movies.

00:08:31.000 Chris Wallace, high schooler.

00:08:32.000 Amazing.

00:08:33.000 I'd pay to watch that.

00:08:34.000 To be honest, I gotta be real, if CNN Plus launched and their commercial was that all of the hosts from CNN's primetime and Chris Wallace would be, like, CNN Plus was literally just them doing musicals.

00:08:50.000 I actually would have subscribed to see it.

00:08:53.000 I'd be like, I'd like to see Brian Stelter pirouette.

00:08:55.000 You know, and it's a ridiculous thing I wouldn't pay for in the long term, but I'd at least pay out of curiosity one time to see what they're doing.

00:09:01.000 Instead, they were like, nobody wants to watch CNN. 0.97

00:09:04.000 Let's put our behind the scenes garbage that's even worse for money.

00:09:08.000 And I'm like, I don't want to pay Tim, why are you giving them ideas? 0.90

00:09:11.000 I thought we're here trying to build culture.

00:09:12.000 You want to encourage CNN to do it?

00:09:14.000 Actually, I mean, that might be a hit show.

00:09:16.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:09:17.000 You know, making them do some kind of musical number.

00:09:20.000 People might want to laugh at them.

00:09:21.000 We do high school musicals, not CNN musicals.

00:09:25.000 To be fair, they will say anything for money.

00:09:28.000 That's true, yeah.

00:09:29.000 Will they sing anything?

00:09:31.000 That's a good question.

00:09:31.000 Are they capable of singing?

00:09:32.000 We can maybe throw some autotune in there.

00:09:34.000 CNN, hear me out.

00:09:36.000 I got a pitch for you.

00:09:38.000 It's a show where you get Chris Wallace for one hour, you get Brian Stotter for one hour, you get Jake Tapper, and they have to read the Super Chats, whatever it is, in chronological order.

00:09:50.000 So that means Brian Stotter would have to read exactly what someone sends him, Yo, I just want to say, you guys, we would make a million bucks a day.

00:09:59.000 Billions!

00:10:00.000 Every single one of those person's career would be over five minutes into the first episode, dude.

00:10:06.000 That's the thing, what's missing is the interactivity between these people in the audience.

00:10:09.000 Like, a good journalist is going to respond to questions about what their journalism is, and these people are like behind a glass wall.

00:10:14.000 But it's not just the... Oh, sorry.

00:10:16.000 No, like the first super chat for Brian Stelter is someone would write, I am a potato, I am a potato, and he'd have to read it, and people would pay good money for him to do that.

00:10:24.000 This is the thing, it's not just the interactivity of it, it's the personality you're dealing with.

00:10:30.000 Do you think people would really like write into Brian Stelter?

00:10:33.000 I don't know, like maybe to mess with them or if they were reading it, but I just don't think these people are entertaining or charismatic enough.

00:10:40.000 Yeah, they're parroting a line of lies, I think, for the most part.

00:10:44.000 I've seen a lot of stuff come out of CNN.

00:10:45.000 The thing is, I don't want to say too much because I can't think of any one thing off the top of my head, but it's felt like they've been lying to me for a while or telling me stuff that's not true.

00:10:53.000 Whenever I've done TV shows, I've always been like, this is amazing.

00:10:57.000 I just get to sit here and say whatever I want and people on the other side can't do anything about it.

00:11:02.000 You just have to scream at your TV.

00:11:04.000 You can't comment anywhere.

00:11:05.000 Nothing.

00:11:06.000 I can imagine that feels very powerful to them.

00:11:08.000 And the idea of ever exposing themselves to the peasants in the audience who may throw tomatoes.

00:11:14.000 And that's what Twitter is, basically.

00:11:17.000 Right now, I mean, people are saying things about you and you do not want to hear what they're saying.

00:11:22.000 I want to hear it.

00:11:23.000 I'm going to read it.

00:11:25.000 You think that you can escape.

00:11:26.000 One says, I love Lauren Southern.

00:11:29.000 I'm going to smash the like button for that one.

00:11:32.000 Tapped it.

00:11:32.000 Bad take.

00:11:33.000 On shows like this, people actually, for the most part, it's a bad take.

00:11:36.000 Debunked.

00:11:36.000 Source.

00:11:41.000 Like if we're really in a psychological war, fifth generational war, and they're not using the best technology available to them, they're losing the psychological war.

00:11:49.000 People aren't falling for it because they can't respond, they can't get through.

00:11:52.000 I think CNN wants to lie and they don't want you to be able to call them out.

00:11:58.000 If CNN had a show where there was a live chat next to it, and they said, it would just be inundated with people being like, you're wrong about this, you're wrong about this.

00:12:05.000 We get people super chatting us being like, Tim, you were wrong.

00:12:07.000 Here's the fact.

00:12:08.000 And I'll read it and I'll be like, oh wow.

00:12:09.000 This is why Seamus is correct.

00:12:11.000 Tim, you're completely wrong about this.

00:12:12.000 Seamus is tall.

00:12:13.000 Yeah, Seamus is extremely tall.

00:12:14.000 Ian created a trend where he explained that in Dungeons and Dragons, a one is a critical failure and a 20 is a critical success.

00:12:21.000 So now every time Ian says something, they either put one or 20 in the chat.

00:12:25.000 It's actually my new Twitter image now as a picture of myself.

00:12:28.000 I saw that.

00:12:28.000 I love that.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, it's incredible.

00:12:29.000 Oh, wait.

00:12:30.000 Oh, no.

00:12:30.000 I didn't see that.

00:12:30.000 I think I saw you post something and it was a bunch of 20s.

00:12:32.000 Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

00:12:34.000 Well, then you should.

00:12:34.000 You can go to my Twitter profile and see it now.

00:12:36.000 And it is by mstockdesign on Twitter.

00:12:38.000 Thanks for making those images, man.

00:12:39.000 That is fantastic.

00:12:40.000 Well, you're about to get some feedback, Ian.

00:12:42.000 You're about to get the thing CNN is afraid of.

00:12:44.000 Hey, guys.

00:12:44.000 One's in the chat.

00:12:46.000 One's in the chat, boys.

00:12:46.000 No, no.

00:12:47.000 It's not true.

00:12:47.000 Critical, critical miss.

00:12:49.000 No, no.

00:12:49.000 They're rolling me once.

00:12:50.000 Oh, no.

00:12:52.000 Without CNN, what do we do?

00:12:53.000 Where do we go?

00:12:53.000 Make another one.

00:12:54.000 I feel lost.

00:12:55.000 Well, we're already doing it.

00:12:56.000 That's the reason why CNN is failing is because of shows like this and other awesome shows where people can interact and relate to the audience.

00:13:03.000 I think.

00:13:03.000 And do good research.

00:13:04.000 Did CNN Plus, you know, I gotta be honest, I didn't actually look, so I don't know if they had any kind of interactivity.

00:13:10.000 They might have.

00:13:10.000 I mean, it's a streaming service.

00:13:12.000 I just, I love, it was Wesley Lowery, who used to be with Washington Post.

00:13:16.000 He did this big Twitter thread about how they were the only news streaming service, and it was a huge bet that doesn't pay off because regular people don't want to pay for good reporting.

00:13:23.000 And I'm just like, Daily Wire has so many subscribers.

00:13:28.000 He said good reporting, Tim, not right-wing bigotry.

00:13:30.000 Excuse me.

00:13:30.000 I'll be honest, if they could have paid their users to watch, that's another model that may have worked, maybe with crypto or something.

00:13:36.000 They did that with the airports.

00:13:38.000 Well, no, not really, but they forced people to watch, if you know what I mean.

00:13:41.000 You know what I think, Tim?

00:13:42.000 I think CNN Plus is actually failing because too many people are sharing passwords.

00:13:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:46.000 That's right.

00:13:47.000 Everyone wants to watch it.

00:13:48.000 You know what I love, too, is how with TV ratings, they say, you know, a hundred households instead of a hundred, you know, people.

00:13:55.000 So that way they're like, well, households could be five people.

00:13:59.000 Or it could mean that the show wasn't on at all.

00:14:00.000 As if the whole family gathers around, sits on a couch to watch Brian Stelter together?

00:14:05.000 Maybe in the 80s, I don't think that happens anymore.

00:14:07.000 Weren't they disparaging him?

00:14:08.000 Who?

00:14:09.000 Like the Discovery guys were like, Brian Stelter is terrible or something like that?

00:14:14.000 I mean, I gotta be honest, I can't imagine, I'm trying to think of what kind of person Looks at Brian Stelter and says he should have his own show.

00:14:22.000 Like you listen to him and you're like, we should, we should give him a show.

00:14:24.000 I got mixed feelings about him.

00:14:26.000 I can't tell.

00:14:26.000 What is the reason?

00:14:27.000 Cause when I look at him, I'm like, all right, he looks like when he has that really fake, there's a picture of him like doing the Joker smile where it's like, yeah, his eyes are normal, but his mouth is open.

00:14:35.000 I got these scars.

00:14:36.000 Did he know somebody like growing up?

00:14:37.000 Did he have his dad was connected to somebody?

00:14:39.000 My father was a reporter.

00:14:42.000 Like Chris Wallace's dad was Mike Wallace.

00:14:44.000 He worked for the New York Times.

00:14:45.000 And apparently he got a job there when he was really young.

00:14:47.000 I think he's the same age as me.

00:14:49.000 Yeah, he is. 0.78

00:14:50.000 Crazy, right? 0.82

00:14:51.000 So did he do really good reporting in the early days?

00:14:53.000 I don't know.

00:14:53.000 He interviewed me after Occupy Wall Street.

00:14:55.000 Yeah, I don't hate the guy.

00:14:56.000 He said a lot of weird stuff.

00:14:58.000 I think he's a very, very bad person. 0.74

00:15:02.000 He lies all the time. 1.00

00:15:04.000 And he plays this ridiculous game. 0.65

00:15:07.000 I think when you're on a show like that, people who are willing to play the game and be loyal and not question things are almost more valuable than good reporters.

00:15:17.000 Because there would be so many people that are new hires that just get jaded so quickly by getting that script in.

00:15:22.000 And when you have a stelter who's just like, I'll read it every day consistently, won't ask questions, lies, don't care, like that's more valuable to these networks is that that loyalty to lies than good reporting to some extent.

00:15:34.000 The funniest thing about CNN Plus was that it was obviously failing to everybody with all the stories that were breaking.

00:15:39.000 It was like a day after it launched, they announced that they were planning on shutting it down.

00:15:43.000 And I still saw these establishment journalists trying to promote it.

00:15:47.000 Not even CNN employees being like, wow, really great stuff from CNN Plus. 0.94

00:15:49.000 I'm like, no it isn't, shut up. 0.98

00:15:50.000 It's terrible. 0.99

00:15:51.000 What are you tweeting?

00:15:52.000 Like this one guy who works, these institutional journalists, these university professors are tweeting videos from CNN Plus.

00:15:58.000 And I'm like, that's awful.

00:16:00.000 I'm like, why are you trying so hard to make CNN a thing?

00:16:04.000 Nobody wants to watch it.

00:16:06.000 Wasn't there a burger review guy?

00:16:07.000 What?

00:16:08.000 On CNN Plus?

00:16:09.000 There was a burger review guy.

00:16:11.000 Yeah.

00:16:12.000 I'm not making this up.

00:16:13.000 I'll find it.

00:16:14.000 I promise.

00:16:16.000 Well, they need stuff like that.

00:16:17.000 If they want to succeed, they need to branch out or out of politics into other cultural issues like sports.

00:16:22.000 I don't know.

00:16:23.000 Well, they, they either a have to, they have to do two things.

00:16:26.000 All right.

00:16:27.000 Stop lying.

00:16:28.000 Bring some interesting people on board, both ideally, but even if they do, I think their credibility has just been so completely destroyed that that wouldn't even save them.

00:16:38.000 Or, or, they could lie more.

00:16:40.000 Or, oh, why didn't I think of that?

00:16:43.000 Tripling down.

00:16:44.000 If they came out and told news stories that were just so shockingly absurd, it would be entertaining to watch.

00:16:50.000 Like the Babylon Bee?

00:16:51.000 Right.

00:16:51.000 We are no longer a real news network, we are now satire.

00:16:54.000 Like, could you imagine if Brian Stelter came out and was like, the executives realized that we were on the border of that anyway, so he decided to dip one foot in and see what happens.

00:17:03.000 Donald Trump did a backflip today and he landed perfectly on target.

00:17:06.000 He dove off of a 200-foot diving board into a kiddie pool.

00:17:11.000 Like techno music underneath his deliveries and stuff.

00:17:13.000 Like if he really wants his news show to be popular, they gotta put like a dubstep underneath him, you know, while he's talking.

00:17:18.000 I gotta be honest.

00:17:20.000 If they launched a show on CN+, where it was Brian Stelter arguing with a duck, I would pay for that. 0.93

00:17:26.000 Oh, 1,000,000%!

00:17:26.000 1,000,000%!

00:17:26.000 And then you could almost, like, super chat in, like, with Chicken City, and then, like, bread'll drop, like, when the chicken's really winning.

00:17:32.000 Like, if the chicken's really got the best of him, you're like, dude, this is a point for the duck, man, I'm sorry.

00:17:37.000 But when Brian's winning, you press a button and a donut falls down.

00:17:41.000 In the 1950s, they would always talk like this.

00:17:42.000 And there was this weird thing.

00:17:43.000 It's like, oh, golly gee, dad.

00:17:45.000 And then all of a sudden in the 60s, everyone took LSD or all these people and they like broke out and were like, why do people sound?

00:17:50.000 And then they start talking normal like we do.

00:17:52.000 We're going through it again with this industry.

00:17:53.000 They sit and they have this news delivery voice that they do.

00:17:56.000 And you're like, what is this theater? 1.00

00:17:58.000 This crap? 1.00

00:17:59.000 They're behind a desk with a tie on. 1.00

00:18:00.000 You're like, what the?

00:18:01.000 And then you see real people talking and it's we've shattered that reality again.

00:18:06.000 Do you think a cultural revolution- I should put on a suit and talk like this!

00:18:08.000 Today's news, Donald Trump did a backflip!

00:18:10.000 You have a weird news voice.

00:18:12.000 Are you talking about the mid-Atlantic accent?

00:18:13.000 I'm not sure what that is.

00:18:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:18:15.000 Okay.

00:18:16.000 So, the news presenters, so for one thing, their microphones couldn't catch mid-ranges as well.

00:18:21.000 So they sound very squeaky and dark like this. 0.99

00:18:23.000 There's that, but then there's also the acting style where they were like, oh gee, pop.

00:18:26.000 Well, there was an actual accent that they developed at the advent of mass media.

00:18:31.000 I think it's called transatlantic or mid-Atlantic.

00:18:33.000 Yeah.

00:18:33.000 And the idea was they wanted an accent that would sound familiar to everyone in the country because there were different dialects spread out everywhere.

00:18:39.000 And so a lot of public presenters learned how to speak this fabricated dialect and then it fell out of fashion.

00:18:46.000 Well, the actors, they adopted what was meant to sound high class by adopting a British non-erotic style of speaking without the harshness of the British accent.

00:18:57.000 So they'd say, darling, where's my car?

00:18:59.000 So the R's were basically dropped. 0.99

00:19:01.000 And it was more of just like a taught thing. 0.99

00:19:04.000 But yeah, I would love nothing more than to see that stupid news speak just completely go by the wayside. 0.98

00:19:08.000 When they talk like this to tell you about the story, the thing that happened today, it is very weird. 0.99

00:19:13.000 Can you imagine if someone talked to you like that?

00:19:15.000 Like, what if you had someone on this podcast like, well, Tim, my opinion is that the drink that you have right now doesn't need those cherries.

00:19:23.000 And Seamus!

00:19:24.000 We'll hear more in this conversation.

00:19:27.000 In a moment.

00:19:30.000 At what point in time was that ever possible?

00:19:32.000 It seems like one of those things where because you couldn't get audience feedback, they just started talking like slightly more weirdly and never noticed how bizarre it was.

00:19:40.000 I remember when I got a job working for Fusion, which is ABC, and they asked me to do live hits.

00:19:46.000 And I would hear the other people be like, I'm standing here on the ground in Ferguson, around me, several protesters.

00:19:54.000 And I would just be like, I'm here in Ferguson, there's protesters around me, and people are pretty angry.

00:19:59.000 Yeah, that's what I did at my college news show.

00:20:00.000 I don't know why you're talking like that.

00:20:02.000 But he goes back, he tries to catch the ball, but he didn't.

00:20:04.000 He missed it.

00:20:05.000 I was trying to do the sports at my college.

00:20:08.000 It's like the way Vosh talks.

00:20:10.000 There's a clip of him.

00:20:11.000 He's like, I have been beset by fatigue.

00:20:14.000 I must rest. 0.71

00:20:20.000 On the left, we have that study where they talk down to black people. 0.98

00:20:25.000 You saw that Yale study?

00:20:27.000 What they like is people who sound smart.

00:20:30.000 So you'll see this a lot of feminists, they'll write in extremely verbose and confusing ways. 1.00

00:20:36.000 And it's like really annoying.

00:20:37.000 Instead of just saying outright, like the dog jumped over the fence,

00:20:40.000 they'd be like, a animal of the canine variety made a strong leap over an

00:20:44.000 obstruction in the middle of a yard full of grass.

00:20:47.000 And you'd be like, yeah, it's like meant to sound smart.

00:20:50.000 Just be normal.

00:20:52.000 It's like, uh, it's like when you're 14 years old and you're trying to write an essay in your English class and you're just adding it, like, how do I reach the word limit here?

00:21:00.000 Yeah, they give you word limits.

00:21:01.000 That's part of it too, is you need to fill out a quota of words.

00:21:04.000 If they were just like, write me the best story.

00:21:05.000 And if you can do it the short, honestly, the more concise and simple you can make a message, the better it is in general.

00:21:11.000 Yeah, it's funny because, I mean, most of what I do is cartoon writing, but I've done column writing in the past, and basically everything I was taught in my formal education about writing was completely wrong.

00:21:21.000 Obviously, aside from the rules of grammar, but this idea that you have a minimum number of words, you're supposed to make it long and wordy, when in reality, people want what you write to be concise.

00:21:31.000 I think that we should begin to talk more like this and try to use a style of speaking that is more professional and enunciated, because then people will assume that we are smarter than we actually are.

00:21:43.000 Wise words.

00:21:44.000 Well, Tim, frankly, I prefer the newscaster way of speaking.

00:21:47.000 I think it's much more intelligent.

00:21:49.000 Studies show that you're wrong.

00:21:51.000 I guess that... No, for a real question, like, why do they talk like this?

00:21:54.000 I think it all came from the original newscaster that did it, and then he just created a genre, and people didn't really, they just started copying it.

00:22:00.000 He like sustained some kind of head injury as a child so he couldn't speak normal, and they heard him like, that's how he was talking, that's how I'm gonna do it!

00:22:08.000 You know how it's like Nirvana came out and all these other bands started sounding like Nirvana?

00:22:11.000 Well, that's different, that's because record labels started taking those bands specifically, they existed.

00:22:17.000 But there is the story of the King of Catalonia, So, in Spain, there's the Catalan Lisp. 0.52

00:22:23.000 When I was in... Yeah, Barcelona.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, when I was in Madrid, this is funny, I went to Madrid, and I said, cerveza, and then this guy goes, no, no, no, cerveza.

00:22:33.000 And I went, really?

00:22:33.000 And he's like, si.

00:22:35.000 And I went, oh, okay.

00:22:36.000 And then I said, cerveza, and someone started laughing, and they were like, no, no, no, cerveza.

00:22:40.000 And I was like, alright, whatever, man.

00:22:42.000 The legend I was told.

00:22:43.000 is that there was a king who had a lisp.

00:22:46.000 And so everyone was like, ooh, I want to talk like the king.

00:22:49.000 And so they all adopted the lisp.

00:22:50.000 In Chile, also.

00:22:52.000 In Chile, they... I don't know.

00:22:57.000 I've got a theory.

00:22:58.000 I've got a theory.

00:22:59.000 So like, obviously, journalistic ethics are supposed to be neutral when you're discussing stories.

00:23:04.000 So maybe they just thought if I sound neutral while saying extremely biased, false things, people will assume I am neutral on the subject. 0.99

00:23:12.000 Donald Trump is a fascist. 0.99

00:23:14.000 More than 11. 1.00

00:23:15.000 Donald Trump drowned 17 kittens according to an anonymous source.

00:23:20.000 If you say it like that and you're not like seething and screaming then people will be like, wow, newscaster person told me fact.

00:23:26.000 Maybe, you know, it'd be fun if we actually launched a semi-satirical column that's true but in like Not the right kind of way. So like what I would do is I

00:23:39.000 would go to Nancy Pelosi's office, find a homeless guy near her office, and ask him to say 0.99

00:23:45.000 things that were ridiculous. 0.75

00:23:47.000 And then I would quote him and say, a source near Nancy Pelosi's office confirmed. 0.74

00:23:51.000 So it's like, it's true, but like, not right.

00:23:55.000 I love that.

00:23:56.000 Close to Nancy Pelosi.

00:23:57.000 Nancy Pelosi eats raw fish, a source close to her office says. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Do they like go next door to Nancy Pelosi's office, like two guys,

00:24:04.000 and then one guy asks the other guy a question and then...

00:24:07.000 Because it's totally legal, right?

00:24:09.000 They do stuff like that, but not that over.

00:24:12.000 They have one guy go inside the building and talk to him from out the window and he goes, an inside source told me.

00:24:18.000 We're laughing, but yes.

00:24:20.000 They use semantics to make statements of fact that are judgment-proof. 0.72

00:24:25.000 Dirty.

00:24:26.000 Another theory I have is if you are less human on air, then people go after you less if you're not a personality and you're just kind of like this NPC.

00:24:36.000 Have you guys ever watched, sorry, random pivot, Best of Enemies, Gore Vidal versus Buckley?

00:24:43.000 No.

00:24:44.000 Buckley is a good example of a transatlantic accent, by the way.

00:24:47.000 Well, 1968, they had these debates on ABC, I think it was.

00:24:51.000 They were like the first live debates during elections, and they just went at each other.

00:24:55.000 And I think they all ended when Buckley called Vidal a... Can I say the F-slur?

00:25:02.000 No, you can't.

00:25:03.000 You can allude to it.

00:25:04.000 There's an F involved.

00:25:05.000 There's an F involved.

00:25:06.000 And then the other F-slur was thrown by Vidal towards Buckley, called a fascist.

00:25:10.000 And then they like...

00:25:11.000 Clashed and it like ended.

00:25:12.000 And I think all of these other newscasters were like, ooh, we don't want to get that messy.

00:25:16.000 That was like too real for us.

00:25:17.000 He also, he said he called him that, the word that would get the stream taken down.

00:25:21.000 And he also threatened to hit him because I believe he called him a Nazi, even though Buckley, it was, was Buckley?

00:25:27.000 He called him, he called him a crypto fascist.

00:25:29.000 So Gore Vidal was a far leftist and Buckley was, was founder of the National Review, was it?

00:25:35.000 If it's been that long and this stuff's still been happening, perhaps we're going to be all right.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:40.000 Yeah, well, you should watch the movie.

00:25:42.000 They're, like, just fantastic debates.

00:25:43.000 We just have nothing like that on TV anymore.

00:25:45.000 That was, like, great television.

00:25:47.000 Yeah, he was editor of National Review.

00:25:48.000 Why didn't CNN Plus do that?

00:25:50.000 I know, I know.

00:25:51.000 You know what would really boost CNN's ratings right now?

00:25:54.000 If they just had on people like, uh, Alec Jones.

00:25:58.000 If Brian Seltzer really wants ratings, he can bring on Alex Jones.

00:26:01.000 Do a Gore vs. Vidal.

00:26:02.000 Sorry.

00:26:03.000 Yeah, Vidal vs. Buckley, but with Jones and Seltzer.

00:26:06.000 And it's got to be in studio where they can't cut each other's mics and stuff like that.

00:26:11.000 And I say do it live, but good luck.

00:26:13.000 But that's what they got to do.

00:26:14.000 If you want to step up to the plate, you guys really want to want to contend with what's happening in reality right now, do it live.

00:26:19.000 Someone just had to keep Lauren away from the whiskey.

00:26:22.000 I went over there and there's nothing to mix the alcohol with.

00:26:25.000 I was so sad.

00:26:26.000 What do you mean?

00:26:27.000 There's nothing to... I've got espresso chocolate and then just hard liquor.

00:26:32.000 I guess you could put the whiskey in coffee.

00:26:35.000 I could.

00:26:35.000 I'll be right back.

00:26:37.000 All right, all right.

00:26:37.000 Let's talk about Twitter, though.

00:26:38.000 We got this story.

00:26:39.000 Elon Musk, man.

00:26:41.000 From TimCast.com, Elon Musk secures financing of $46.5 billion to complete cash purchase of Twitter.

00:26:46.000 So here's the gist of it.

00:26:47.000 Elon Musk made an offer.

00:26:49.000 He said, I want to buy this company.

00:26:50.000 The board did not respond.

00:26:52.000 So he raises the cash and says, I've got the cash now.

00:26:56.000 I'd like to negotiate.

00:26:57.000 If they don't, he'll move to a tender offer where he just outright says, I'll buy the company for $46.5 billion.

00:27:04.000 So everything he's doing seems to be strategic and planned out and planned out for some time.

00:27:09.000 Elon Musk filed the SEC paperwork on 420.

00:27:11.000 That is not a coincidence.

00:27:13.000 No, it's not.

00:27:14.000 We know this man.

00:27:15.000 And so I'm willing to bet with that.

00:27:17.000 Look at this picture we got of him.

00:27:18.000 Look at him.

00:27:19.000 Look at him smiling like that.

00:27:20.000 He knows what he's doing.

00:27:21.000 He's got a plan.

00:27:22.000 Oh, Elon Musk is great.

00:27:24.000 I strive to be at the point he is.

00:27:27.000 I wasn't the biggest fan of him several years ago and moving forward, but recently, the

00:27:32.000 way he's engaged on Twitter, the things he's been doing, I'm just like, I hope that we

00:27:36.000 can have a company that engages in the kind of culture jamming that he does.

00:27:40.000 That we can get to that point where we buy a company because it's doing bad things and

00:27:44.000 we fix it.

00:27:45.000 But my point is, I think in the next week or so we may actually see a major move because

00:27:50.000 if he actually makes a tender offer, then they have no choice but to open the floor

00:27:57.000 to bidding because they have a fiduciary responsibility, fiduciary duty to their shareholders.

00:28:02.000 He's ruffling up some feathers, man.

00:28:05.000 At the very least, he may drive up the stock he owns and make a bunch of money off it, but I think he's going to win.

00:28:10.000 I think one way or another, Elon Musk wins this one.

00:28:12.000 When did he mention that he was coming in on it?

00:28:14.000 Was it early April?

00:28:15.000 Do you guys remember the exact day?

00:28:16.000 Because it was April 1st is when the stock started to spike.

00:28:19.000 Or was it March 31st or something?

00:28:20.000 Was it the 8th or something like that?

00:28:22.000 I wonder if people knew ahead of time that he was coming in on that.

00:28:24.000 But the stock just started to rise from $40 on March 31st and now it's sitting at like $46?

00:28:30.000 I bet somebody knew.

00:28:32.000 Man, he is the most valuable thing that could ever happen to that company at this point.

00:28:38.000 Honestly, I think they're gonna do everything to push him out because their agenda at this point for some bizarre reason isn't to make money.

00:28:46.000 Some of their agenda, yeah.

00:28:48.000 But I mean, I can't imagine someone who'd be more confident there.

00:28:50.000 He actually values allowing people to express themselves freely on that platform.

00:28:54.000 Well, Seamus, Morgan Stanley is reportedly coming in at nearly half the cost.

00:28:59.000 We'll have more as the story develops.

00:29:01.000 What an exciting development!

00:29:03.000 We'll be hearing about that after this break.

00:29:05.000 So is that $26 billion?

00:29:07.000 Or what is it, $23 billion they're looking to come in with?

00:29:09.000 I think Elon's putting in, what, $21 of his own?

00:29:12.000 Do we have the numbers here?

00:29:14.000 Let me pull it up.

00:29:15.000 I just got a message from Michael Robison.

00:29:19.000 April 9th was the day that he announced.

00:29:20.000 April 9th, right.

00:29:22.000 So I think he did it on April 8th.

00:29:22.000 Right.

00:29:23.000 Is it Robeson or Robeson?

00:29:25.000 I asked him the other night, too.

00:29:26.000 Well, I don't know.

00:29:27.000 Michael Robeson.

00:29:27.000 We'll call it whatever.

00:29:28.000 Let's see.

00:29:29.000 Do we have the numbers in the actual filing?

00:29:31.000 Is there too many letters for me to scan through at the moment?

00:29:33.000 You know, there's no wonder that they're not in it to make money, seemingly.

00:29:36.000 You look at the board members that have been published and they don't own that much stock.

00:29:39.000 There are people on the board that own zero stock of Twitter.

00:29:42.000 Really?

00:29:42.000 Yeah.

00:29:43.000 It was published and Elon even commented on it himself.

00:29:46.000 He's like, what is going on here?

00:29:48.000 Yeah, 0.002% of the company and they're on the board.

00:29:51.000 0.0000.

00:29:53.000 And look at how Jack Dorsey is behaving right now, too.

00:29:56.000 He's randomly become based.

00:29:58.000 He's like speaking out against CNN.

00:30:00.000 He's talking about how there's issues behind the scenes at Twitter.

00:30:02.000 I wonder what he knows that we don't about what's happening.

00:30:06.000 But clearly his money is more important to him.

00:30:09.000 But he's also in a legal battle, isn't he?

00:30:12.000 So there would be legal implications.

00:30:13.000 Legal battle?

00:30:14.000 I'm sure.

00:30:14.000 Oh, it's Robison, Michael Robison.

00:30:15.000 Sorry, not a legal battle, but he'd have documents he would have signed, non-disclosure, all these things that he couldn't.

00:30:21.000 That's what I'm saying, his money's worth more to him.

00:30:23.000 I mean, he's being real subtle.

00:30:25.000 Yeah.

00:30:26.000 But it's okay, it's his job.

00:30:27.000 $21 billion from, I believe, from Elon Musk himself.

00:30:31.000 $13 billion from Morgan Stanley.

00:30:33.000 Let's see, what else?

00:30:36.000 500 million from Senior Secured Revolving Facility in an aggregate commitment amount?

00:30:40.000 I don't know.

00:30:41.000 I think Morgan Stanley's doing 13, he's doing 21, and then there's a loan and some other numbers, but Morgan Stanley's coming in big on this.

00:30:50.000 I think anybody who sees what's going on knows that Elon Musk taking over Twitter is money to be made.

00:30:57.000 How many users have left the platform because of the banning of Donald Trump?

00:31:00.000 Talk about the worst business decision you could ever make.

00:31:03.000 Well, I think bringing them back on is also a weird decision.

00:31:05.000 I mean, why?

00:31:06.000 Because getting in there and just starting making editorial decisions about who can and can't be on the network is not the way to go forward with that network.

00:31:13.000 Right, you open it back up to people for free speech.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, that's one way to do it is unban every account on the network and start from scratch.

00:31:20.000 You could do that and then free the software code so other people can spin up other Twitters with their own terms of service.

00:31:25.000 You unban accounts that were banned for political reasons.

00:31:28.000 Donald Trump was banned because he said things that they did not like.

00:31:32.000 He did not do anything illegal.

00:31:33.000 Anybody who's done something illegal, you don't let on the platform.

00:31:37.000 Uh, okay.

00:31:37.000 Well, this is a long conversation.

00:31:39.000 There are a lot of things you shouldn't be able to do on social media, in my opinion, platforms that are legal, like, you know, alluding to child pornography, for instance.

00:31:47.000 What?

00:31:48.000 It's free speech.

00:31:49.000 You're allowed to talk about it and show, you know, well, not show images of it.

00:31:53.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:31:53.000 You're allowed to spam people.

00:31:56.000 That's not illegal, but it also destroys a social network.

00:31:58.000 So there's things that you have to go outside of the law to attenuate.

00:32:01.000 And you can block them.

00:32:03.000 And Elon Musk wants to verify humans to deal with the bots and the spam, and Twitter won't take care of this.

00:32:10.000 Okay, now that's something, because people make new account, new account, new account, new account, and keep spam, spam, spam, spam.

00:32:15.000 That's right, that's right.

00:32:16.000 So they go after, like, IP addresses and ban IPs and stuff.

00:32:18.000 And if they did verified only, which you can do.

00:32:21.000 When you're verified, you can say, only show me verified mentions.

00:32:26.000 So you don't get spam bots.

00:32:28.000 But regular people don't have that, making it a hostile, terrible platform to be on.

00:32:32.000 Who's verifying?

00:32:34.000 That's another question.

00:32:35.000 You have to have a connection to an official news network to get a verified checkmark, which is wild to me.

00:32:42.000 I got verified because Vice made a phone call.

00:32:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:44.000 So I had like 35,000 followers.

00:32:47.000 There were a bunch of activists asking why I wasn't verified.

00:32:49.000 They were like, hey, Tim's been featured in these magazines and he's a journalist.

00:32:53.000 Why isn't he verified?

00:32:54.000 But why is this guy with 500 followers verified?

00:32:57.000 And Twitter, I actually was invited to a party in Silicon Valley.

00:33:00.000 He's lying.

00:33:00.000 You actually have to be a member of the CIA.

00:33:02.000 was there and I asked him about it and he was like, oh, you know, it's just, we got

00:33:05.000 to get around to it.

00:33:06.000 So we'll probably get you cause we're just going through, but it's BS.

00:33:10.000 Vice made a phone call and then I instantly had a verification check mark.

00:33:13.000 He's lying.

00:33:14.000 You actually have to be a member of the CIA.

00:33:15.000 Yes.

00:33:16.000 That's how I got mine.

00:33:17.000 Right, right.

00:33:18.000 So big fans.

00:33:20.000 With Elon Musk's plan, it's if you're paying for the service, Twitter Blue, you get verified.

00:33:25.000 I completely agree with that.

00:33:26.000 Five bucks a month.

00:33:28.000 And what happens is when you- Wait, wait, any, wait- Anyone.

00:33:31.000 Anyone can be verified now if they pay for that service?

00:33:34.000 Elon Musk's plan is that anybody who has Twitter Blue gets verified.

00:33:39.000 I don't know if that's helpful.

00:33:41.000 I agree with it.

00:33:42.000 Really?

00:33:42.000 But the verified thing is just to detect who's a fake account or a copycat of a big figure that would get a lot of copycats.

00:33:50.000 It'll deal with sock puppets and it'll deal with spam bots.

00:33:54.000 So one person running 50 accounts won't be able to have a checkmark on all of his accounts, only one of them.

00:34:00.000 So that, right there.

00:34:02.000 You know, what people don't understand is cancel culture works because of sock puppetry.

00:34:07.000 One activist will operate 50 accounts through different phones, so they have different IP addresses and different MAC addresses, and then they'll start spamming you.

00:34:15.000 And other people will have fake accounts to spam you with and lie.

00:34:18.000 Under his plan, a regular person can spend five bucks, just five bucks.

00:34:22.000 You can go on, you know, not everybody has it, I know, but the people who want it will get verified.

00:34:27.000 And then you can say, I only want to interact with other people who are verified.

00:34:30.000 And bot farms couldn't make money off of that.

00:34:32.000 Yup.

00:34:33.000 Yeah.

00:34:34.000 It's like people don't realize, but literally in third world countries, they just have these farms of people.

00:34:39.000 You can pay a hundred dollars on websites to get a thousand tweets of whatever you want at 10,000 likes.

00:34:44.000 It's dirt cheap.

00:34:45.000 You can.

00:34:46.000 So there's videos showing how they'll have like a wall with cell phones every, every inch.

00:34:51.000 Yeah.

00:34:51.000 And they're all signed into different accounts.

00:34:53.000 And you'll say, I want a hundred tweets telling this person that they're a bad person.

00:34:57.000 And they'll go, Okay, okay. 0.99

00:34:58.000 And they'll say things like, this is terrible, you suck, this is not it, wrong. 0.98

00:35:03.000 And corporations see that and they panic like, oh no, people are yelling at us. 0.97

00:35:06.000 We better cancel our sponsorships with the H3H3 podcast because he's bad.

00:35:10.000 And then they do it.

00:35:11.000 I have a post on Instagram that has over 30,000 comments all saying the exact same thing.

00:35:18.000 It's like, you wouldn't think that's possible.

00:35:21.000 Someone would have had to pay a pretty penny to do that.

00:35:23.000 It's all saying I'm a man.

00:35:26.000 I don't know why someone would pay to do that.

00:35:27.000 True in Canada, but... Yeah, I was going to say, I thought you had that legally changed in Canada.

00:35:32.000 Yeah, I did.

00:35:32.000 Seamless.

00:35:33.000 There you go.

00:35:34.000 So confirmed now by bot farms.

00:35:36.000 Pay-to-play social networks aren't my favorite idea.

00:35:38.000 I understand the short-term value of it though, but you could still have the CCP or the US government could pay $600 million to get a bunch of people verified and then trick you into thinking that they're not bots.

00:35:51.000 In order to be verified, you have to pay.

00:35:54.000 You have to have an account where money is coming.

00:35:57.000 So, they would have to verify you.

00:36:00.000 Yeah, but I'm saying that money could come from, like, a nefarious actor.

00:36:03.000 Right, I'm just saying Elon Musk's plan is to have you pay and they would verify your identity.

00:36:07.000 It makes money for them, they can cover the cost of verifying you.

00:36:11.000 Couldn't they just do what Facebook does, which I don't like because it plays into all the digital ID stuff, but you have to upload like your driver's license to have an account so no one can create multiple accounts.

00:36:21.000 They do that?

00:36:22.000 You haven't had to do that on Facebook?

00:36:23.000 No.

00:36:24.000 I've had Facebook for a long time.

00:36:25.000 Apparently the CSIS are just trying to get my ID, I guess.

00:36:27.000 There's pluses and minuses to both.

00:36:29.000 That whole thing like tracking you and knowing who you are and where you are is It has its value because you're on the network now and people can find you.

00:36:35.000 But the downside is if the government goes crazy and you need to do some revolutionary war stuff, then you don't want them to know.

00:36:42.000 Like Ben Franklin, if he'd been on Facebook, that's what it came to his house before the revolution ever kicked off.

00:36:46.000 It's almost too late now because the people think like, oh, digital ID is just like linking your accounts with your, you know, real life ID, all of.

00:36:56.000 Like having your face scanned, fingerprints, but it's more than that.

00:36:59.000 They can now detect your digital identity by your typing habits, the pressure you put down on your keyboard, on your smartphone.

00:37:05.000 Your mouse movements.

00:37:07.000 Yeah, even if you're anonymous, living in the woods somewhere, they can detect a mass data sweep of who's got the same pressure points on their smartphone.

00:37:15.000 The code of the network.

00:37:16.000 Oh, that's a good point because it's the phone itself.

00:37:18.000 The code of the networks need to be free.

00:37:20.000 Copy left licenses so you can see if they're giving that data away, but then so does the phone.

00:37:25.000 Data.

00:37:26.000 The phone software code needs to also be free, so you can see if the phone itself is doing it before it even gets to the program and it's sensing you.

00:37:33.000 I like this freedom phone concept.

00:37:34.000 I haven't used one yet, but phones like that.

00:37:37.000 And I would agree, but the question is, how do you get the average person to really care about it enough to make consumer decisions that will cause companies to change the way they manufacture these things and the way they give your data out?

00:37:47.000 The evil way to get people to do is fear.

00:37:50.000 That's been the go-to way for a lot of authoritarian The right way to do it is build something that is so amazing that they want to use it instead.

00:37:58.000 I think we could make a cheeky authoritarian government, Ian.

00:38:01.000 It'd be fun.

00:38:01.000 It would be really fun.

00:38:02.000 I think we could set it up well.

00:38:03.000 It'd be a good bit.

00:38:04.000 It'd be a really good bit.

00:38:05.000 I'd actually be really interested to see an Ian authoritarian.

00:38:07.000 Authoritarian Ian.

00:38:09.000 Stratospheric delivery, man.

00:38:10.000 There would be like a guy, like the cop is wearing like tie-dye armor and he walks up to some dude wearing a suit and he goes, where's your crystal?

00:38:18.000 It's right here!

00:38:19.000 And he pulls it out and shows it.

00:38:20.000 It'd be the one where they're like, Ian, we want you to be king.

00:38:22.000 And I'll be like, I'm stepping down.

00:38:24.000 And the software code is free.

00:38:25.000 No, no, I mean- Just like George Washington.

00:38:27.000 I mean, like- What if they tell you to step down?

00:38:28.000 You're like, I'm gonna be king.

00:38:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:31.000 Psychological warfare.

00:38:32.000 Reverse psychology.

00:38:33.000 I'd step down.

00:38:34.000 Ian is the dictator.

00:38:35.000 I'm here to do what's right.

00:38:36.000 Once a week you have mandatory DMT.

00:38:39.000 No, once a month you have to do extended state DMT.

00:38:44.000 The guards are wearing tie-dye armor with tie-dye guns.

00:38:49.000 And they're like, right this way, dude!

00:38:53.000 Mandatory meditation.

00:38:55.000 If DMT was legal, would you do it?

00:38:58.000 No.

00:38:58.000 Is it not legal?

00:38:59.000 I would not- In the right environment, right?

00:39:00.000 Certain places, medically it is?

00:39:02.000 Some places, like, for medical- for medicinal- spiritual, like, um, I don't think DMT outright, but, like, ayahuasca is protected, I think, under some Native American protection and religion laws, and, like, peyote and stuff.

00:39:13.000 But, uh, regardless, I would not.

00:39:14.000 Dude.

00:39:15.000 What were you gonna say?

00:39:17.000 Oh no, I don't think I would.

00:39:18.000 Oh.

00:39:19.000 Ian, your court system, your judicial system, and the authoritarian Ian society would just be rolling a dice and be like, it's a 120, man.

00:39:27.000 It's a 120.

00:39:28.000 We do need an upgrade to our judicial, our entire system needs a big, it needs an upgrade.

00:39:33.000 They're facing execution.

00:39:34.000 You just look at them.

00:39:35.000 Ever played D&D?

00:39:37.000 Roll initiative.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:40.000 See what he gets.

00:39:41.000 You roll in your court case like the prosecutor has rolled a 17.

00:39:44.000 What I want to do is bring American ideals, basically constitutional ideals, to the world, if we could.

00:39:49.000 But I don't want to do it through a war.

00:39:51.000 You know, that's what they've been trying to do for the last 70 years.

00:39:53.000 And obviously it's not working.

00:39:55.000 You gonna talk them into it?

00:39:57.000 Maybe.

00:39:57.000 Maybe you could encourage them to change.

00:39:59.000 I don't know.

00:40:00.000 The Arab Spring looked like it, but we didn't help them. 1.00

00:40:04.000 Let me ask you a question, Ian.

00:40:06.000 What would you do to convince Seamus not to be Catholic?

00:40:09.000 Be my best self.

00:40:11.000 No, no, okay.

00:40:11.000 Convince her.

00:40:12.000 But then you'd become Catholic.

00:40:13.000 No, no, no.

00:40:15.000 Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:40:16.000 Catholic church.

00:40:18.000 What is it?

00:40:18.000 I'm asking you a literal question.

00:40:19.000 I don't want him to not be Catholic.

00:40:21.000 So this is what you need to understand about the war and stuff that goes on in these countries.

00:40:24.000 You have a bunch of people who couldn't do jumping jacks.

00:40:27.000 Do you guys see that video when we tried training the Iraqi soldiers?

00:40:30.000 They could not do jumping jacks.

00:40:33.000 They weren't jumping jacks.

00:40:34.000 It was the military version, whatever they're called.

00:40:37.000 And they were trying to train.

00:40:38.000 It was the Afghan armed forces.

00:40:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:40:39.000 Did you see this video?

00:40:41.000 And they're like, they're going like this, and the guy's like, hands up, hands down, and they go, and start like swinging one arm, like they just could not do it.

00:40:49.000 We could bring Islam and Christianity together.

00:40:52.000 I think Islam needs a reformation. 1.00

00:40:54.000 You know, hold on, hold on.

00:40:56.000 They can come convert to us, but... Well, hold on, hold on. 1.00

00:41:00.000 I think Ian's right, we gotta send him to Palestine right away. 1.00

00:41:04.000 Well, I'm not talking about running up to the crowd and be like, change!

00:41:06.000 I'm just saying that I think there needs to be like a cohesive, you know, unification of the concepts.

00:41:10.000 We're going to have a hot take.

00:41:12.000 Christians have more in common with Muslims than they do with atheists in America. 0.80

00:41:18.000 For sure.

00:41:18.000 Oh yeah.

00:41:19.000 Absolutely.

00:41:19.000 But they don't realize it for some reason.

00:41:20.000 Well, hold on.

00:41:21.000 This is where it gets, on some matters, but then a lot of atheists are running around with Christian moral foundations and just don't realize it.

00:41:28.000 Yeah, but I'm just talking about like that step between I don't believe there's a greater power that controls our civilization and life and soul to I believe in God and that dynamic is so big that, you know... Monotheism.

00:41:41.000 Yeah, Judaism as well.

00:41:42.000 It's all wrapped into this monotheistic concept.

00:41:45.000 It's not even about monotheism in my opinion.

00:41:47.000 It's about believing in something greater than you.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 That's it.

00:41:50.000 You know, whether it's the rights of other people, whether it's a god or an afterlife, it feels like very much what separates the left from the right in the modern context is whether the world is about you or the world is about everyone.

00:42:03.000 I liked Martin Luther because he seemed to see that it was about his connection to God directly and less about going through a church.

00:42:09.000 That I liked a lot.

00:42:10.000 If we could bring that to Islam as well, I like that.

00:42:12.000 But Christ built a church.

00:42:14.000 Why does the media lie? 0.90

00:42:15.000 Because they believe the destruction they cause is justified for several reasons.

00:42:20.000 One, either they want to make money, they care more about themselves than the greater society.

00:42:24.000 Or two, they think their vision of the world is better than yours, which is once again about them.

00:42:30.000 But that's so interesting because they obviously used to be, you know, for the group, for the leftist kind of perspective was the union, the people, but that's completely shifted.

00:42:40.000 And I think that's why I saw someone tweeting about this, that they wanted libs of TikTok censored because they used to have the working class union man.

00:42:48.000 And that has been the power of the left.

00:42:50.000 And they are losing that fast with these people seeing what is going on with these like hardcore individualist liberals in schools.

00:42:56.000 You have the populist expanse on the right is resulting in some left economic policies finding their way to conservatives.

00:43:03.000 You now have Tucker Carlson bringing on the guy who formed the Amazon union and saying, good, good for you.

00:43:08.000 Amazon's a big evil corporation.

00:43:09.000 And I'm like, I agree with Tucker.

00:43:11.000 I think Amazon is absolutely terrible.

00:43:12.000 We're all addicted to it because of its convenience, but boy, are they nasty.

00:43:16.000 And so Tucker is now like, you know, I've disagreed with unions in the past, but I appreciate you guys sticking it to the big evil corporations.

00:43:22.000 And then you have, you have the left cheering for Saudi Arabia, cheering for China, cheering for Disney today in the house.

00:43:29.000 They're like, give them tax cuts!

00:43:32.000 What is going on?

00:43:34.000 That was amazing so so the house voted, you know, what do we have this one?

00:43:39.000 I don't know if I have the video pulled up but in the house on In Florida, they voted to take away the special governing privileges and tax privileges from Disney and the activists were like No!

00:43:52.000 No!

00:43:53.000 Give the corporations 20% off their taxes!

00:43:57.000 The Colorado governor wanted to bring Disney to Colorado.

00:44:00.000 He was like, hey, we'll set you guys up.

00:44:03.000 And basically what I'm thinking is, yeah, right.

00:44:05.000 Like if Disney goes to Colorado, spends a hundred, like billions of dollars building Disney World Plus or whatever they want to call it.

00:44:11.000 And then a new governor gets in and is like, we're shutting down Disney's special privilege.

00:44:14.000 And like, what does this guy think's gonna happen anyway?

00:44:16.000 He wants to bring him out there and give him access to build nuclear power plants again?

00:44:19.000 I'm not seeing it. So this is the this is the the video we have here from Twitter

00:44:24.000 It's about in the house the Florida House Was voting to strip Disney of their special privileges

00:44:31.000 which would be like their special governance abilities their ability to police or build nuclear

00:44:36.000 Power plants and special tax privileges and we ended up with this protest. Let me make sure we have the the the

00:44:42.000 audio appropriately configured

00:44:45.000 I I

00:44:49.000 I I

00:44:53.000 I We will not give up! We will not give up!

00:44:59.000 Alright, you can't really hear them, but they're apparently chanting, this is good trouble, this is necessary trouble.

00:45:04.000 This is from a reporter from the Orlando Sentinel.

00:45:08.000 So you actually have the left, they are in the chambers, protesting that one of the largest corporations in the world is losing a tax cut.

00:45:18.000 Good.

00:45:18.000 They're allowed to do it, and I support their right to do it.

00:45:20.000 I don't agree with the message, though.

00:45:22.000 I think that they're cultists for the corporation, and they probably have Mickey Mouse-plushed animals on their couch and stuff.

00:45:27.000 We all recognize their right to protest.

00:45:30.000 We are pointing out the psychosis that is occurring when the left is like, Corporation should have tax cuts!

00:45:35.000 People are obsessed with Disney.

00:45:37.000 Some people are.

00:45:38.000 It's a mutually—oh, sorry, Ian.

00:45:39.000 No, no.

00:45:40.000 Truly, it's like a cult of Disney.

00:45:41.000 They have stuffed animals of Ariel the mermaid and stuff.

00:45:44.000 Like, what the heck?

00:45:45.000 I would say it's not exactly that. 0.96

00:45:47.000 It's almost this mutually parasitic relationship.

00:45:49.000 The left sees Disney as a vehicle for promoting their ideas, and Disney believes that they can extract some profit from left-wing audience members if they promote those ideals.

00:45:58.000 And as soon as either doesn't need the other or they rise to power and get what they want, they're gonna throw each other under the bus.

00:46:05.000 Yeah, it's tough to tell what these specific people, what their intentions were.

00:46:08.000 I don't know if they were trying to support evil or if they were just sad.

00:46:10.000 No, they were saying it was racist.

00:46:13.000 What?

00:46:13.000 Oh, what a shock!

00:46:15.000 So I guess this protest wasn't actually about Disney though, so... I think this one... There was a protest.

00:46:21.000 I'm pretty sure there was a protest about the Disney thing.

00:46:22.000 Apparently this one was from the Black Caucus or something in Florida.

00:46:26.000 I think this is not actually... Did you just give me fake news?

00:46:28.000 If you're gonna give me fake news, you have to go... Today, Disney was protested.

00:46:32.000 I can send you the video on Twitter.

00:46:34.000 They were chanting, fight back, fight back.

00:46:37.000 Yeah, but I think that might have been something different, maybe.

00:46:40.000 No, let me grab it for you.

00:46:41.000 Disney is way too powerful.

00:46:43.000 They're way too... I don't even know powers.

00:46:44.000 They're way too whelpy.

00:46:45.000 Oh, they're way too powerful.

00:46:47.000 I don't know if power is the right word, because money isn't going to get you what you need.

00:46:49.000 What I saw on Twitter earlier was people saying that they were protesting the Disney thing, like the Disney vote was happening.

00:46:54.000 But the Orlando Sentinel says they were protesting something that would remove black Democratic lawmakers or something like that.

00:46:59.000 So you guys think we should break up Disney, the monopoly?

00:47:02.000 Is it a monopoly yet?

00:47:03.000 It owns Marvel.

00:47:04.000 It bought Maker Studios after I was building that thing.

00:47:07.000 Well, so right.

00:47:08.000 FloridaPolitics.com says, House passes bill ending Disney plus carve out gavels out amid protests.

00:47:15.000 OK, look at what I just sent you.

00:47:16.000 Sorry.

00:47:17.000 I can't pull it up on this computer.

00:47:18.000 Can you tell me how to find it?

00:47:19.000 On Twitter?

00:47:20.000 Yeah, what's the tweet?

00:47:21.000 I'll retweet it.

00:47:23.000 Listen to that.

00:47:25.000 Dead space.

00:47:26.000 Hot air.

00:47:27.000 Sorry, I'm so bad with interrupting.

00:47:29.000 Who owns Disney?

00:47:29.000 That's what I'm looking at right now.

00:47:30.000 What's your... What's your... Oh, at Lauren underscore Southern.

00:47:34.000 This was all an elaborate plot to get people to follow my Twitter.

00:47:38.000 Aha! 0.94

00:47:40.000 Underscore!

00:47:40.000 I can't believe you're still on Twitter and still verified.

00:47:43.000 Vote on these two bills.

00:47:44.000 I don't know how.

00:47:46.000 It is my hope that we will be able to proceed civilly and with decorum and with respect for one another.

00:47:53.000 Read the next bill.

00:47:55.000 It's like the 1800s.

00:47:57.000 By Senator Bradley, Senate Bill 4C, bill to be entitled an act relating to independent special districts.

00:48:01.000 No, I think they're protesting something about- No, independent special districts is the territory that-

00:48:05.000 territory that...

00:48:06.000 Right, right, but the people are yelling something about black people standing up and fighting back.

00:48:10.000 I think what happened is this- So it spilled into the second one?

00:48:13.000 Look at the headline here.

00:48:15.000 House passes bill, ending Disney plus carve-out, gavels out amid protests.

00:48:19.000 You see what they do?

00:48:20.000 They make the story about that, and then they say it's amid protest, so you assume the protests are actually about Disney.

00:48:26.000 Keep playing that video, though.

00:48:27.000 Let's see if they are still yelling about- Oh, I can't hear it.

00:48:33.000 Yeah, I think the sound was cut.

00:48:34.000 I mean, look, she's making good points.

00:48:47.000 Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:48:48.000 I can't hear what they're saying.

00:48:49.000 They're just screeching into the void.

00:48:51.000 They're saying something like, when black lawmakers are under attack, what do we do? 0.72

00:48:53.000 Stand up, fight back.

00:48:55.000 I wonder if there's a quote in here, because... Yeah.

00:48:57.000 Okay, well, maybe you caught me on some fake news here.

00:49:00.000 That's good.

00:49:01.000 Like, dude, if you're going to do fake news, you have to do it in the newscaster voice, Lauren.

00:49:05.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:49:05.000 That's the mistake I made.

00:49:07.000 I don't blame you for it, because this is exactly what I saw as well.

00:49:10.000 They're like, everyone's, all of these people were tweeting, they passed the bill cutting out Disney's taxes amid protests, and you can't really hear what the protests are saying.

00:49:19.000 And when you look at news articles that frame it this way, can we pull this one up again?

00:49:22.000 When they literally say they passed the bill ending the carve-out amid protests, they're manipulating you into thinking the protests were about that.

00:49:30.000 I am not fake news.

00:49:31.000 I am a victim of fake news.

00:49:33.000 Yeah, really.

00:49:34.000 I've gone through that a lot, writing articles with mines in the early days.

00:49:37.000 Like, at what point do you have to pass, do you pass the buck or take responsibility when you read a fake article and then you present it to the masses?

00:49:43.000 Yeah.

00:49:44.000 Yeah, so they said the protests began as Democrats' debate time expired on the bill to pass congressional maps drafted by DeSantis' office.

00:49:51.000 Democrats called DeSantis' involvement a breach of the separation of powers and argued the maps would reduce the representation of black Floridians in Congress.

00:49:58.000 Okay.

00:49:58.000 In a statement after the House adjourned, Sprowls issued a statement accusing some members

00:50:02.000 of violating House rules and hijacking the process.

00:50:05.000 So yeah, what they were protesting was that the map, congressional map, is going to cut

00:50:09.000 out two black lawmakers.

00:50:11.000 So we got taken for a ride by these headlines, but we caught it.

00:50:15.000 We caught it.

00:50:15.000 I didn't leave a word of it at all.

00:50:17.000 You guys... No, I mean, like, we corrected it.

00:50:18.000 Well, that's a good way.

00:50:19.000 This is conversational.

00:50:21.000 When you just have newscaster voice reading it, you don't get the back and forth, the real-time correction.

00:50:26.000 Well, see, actually, typically what happens with us is I didn't pull up that story because I couldn't hear what they were yelling.

00:50:32.000 So when you brought it up, I was like, oh, yeah, you know, like, I heard that too.

00:50:35.000 It's a good thing we pulled it up, though, because now these headlines, I mean, come on, man, look at this headline.

00:50:39.000 That headline is gonna be on Twitter, someone's gonna see it, and that's exactly what happened to me.

00:50:45.000 I saw that and I was like, oh yeah, I heard that.

00:50:47.000 Those people were protesting tax cuts, and then you pull it up and you're like, ah, they got me.

00:50:51.000 Just reading past the headline is a superpower.

00:50:54.000 Where is Snopes when you need them, you know?

00:50:57.000 Fact check false.

00:50:58.000 They could have put like a mid-war because they're but only we're talking about the war in Ukraine We didn't mean anything about what right?

00:51:04.000 That's that's something that you got to be really careful of too because depending on what the headlines you use for stories are so It's tough, because I'll do YouTube videos that way when I'm trying to make a point about two things happening simultaneously or having some relationship.

00:51:20.000 But you see how the media will do it.

00:51:21.000 They'll say something like, you know, Ian Crossland throws major fit as Seamus steals Lucky Charms.

00:51:28.000 Which is true.

00:51:29.000 You think Seamus stole them, and that's why he's angry.

00:51:32.000 And then you read it and it's like, Seamus was 20 miles away when it happened.

00:51:35.000 Eating the Lucky Charms on video.

00:51:36.000 Oh, the best one.

00:51:37.000 It was...

00:51:38.000 No, what was it?

00:51:39.000 Newsweek?

00:51:40.000 No, I'm not going to say.

00:51:41.000 I can't remember who it was, but they published that a woman who criticized Putin had died.

00:51:47.000 She had disappeared, been kidnapped and died.

00:51:50.000 And then when you read the article, her boyfriend had murdered her.

00:51:53.000 But the headline and the photo was a picture of Putin and this woman.

00:51:57.000 That's intentional.

00:51:57.000 Oh, shout out to Media Matters.

00:52:00.000 That article, they published an article saying, you know, podcast host says something about gay marriage or whatever.

00:52:06.000 Yeah, they said it was like, Timcast IRL host attacks marriage equality and says it leads to grooming.

00:52:16.000 And it was part of a conversation that we had where I stated my position, which is that there is no such thing as gay marriage.

00:52:22.000 Marriage is between a man and a woman. 0.55

00:52:24.000 But the person who tweeted it out was basically trying to make it sound like Tim had changed his position on gay marriage?

00:52:30.000 Right, let me show this.

00:52:31.000 So, Media Matters wrote, TimCast IRL panelists attack marriage equality suggested has led to normalizing grooming.

00:52:37.000 They show, you know, here's the thumbnail for the video.

00:52:39.000 It's me.

00:52:40.000 And then they actually say, I think they said in the tweet, you got to watch out for these grifters changing their positions.

00:52:46.000 And in it, it's like, I can't remember if it was the Media Matters tweet, or it was the first iteration of it I saw, I need to double check.

00:52:52.000 I wasn't on that show that night either, that's really annoying.

00:52:55.000 So it's like me saying, the issue for me is it's not gay marriage or a slippery slope. 0.80

00:52:59.000 Fallacy, I think, to consenting adults is not the issue.

00:53:02.000 Obviously there's a lot of traditional conservatives have an issue with that, I disagree.

00:53:04.000 The issue is with children who can't consent, that's always been the point. 0.99

00:53:10.000 We had a discussion with Jason Whitlock and I'm like, I'm okay with gay marriage.

00:53:12.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:53:13.000 I don't like the slippery slope fallacy in this context because I'm like, dude, if something is bad, it's bad.

00:53:18.000 Then you don't say, because of this might make something bad.

00:53:22.000 No, no, no.

00:53:23.000 Say no to bad things.

00:53:24.000 You say okay to good things or to things that are in line with your values.

00:53:27.000 We debate them too.

00:53:28.000 That's what the show's all about.

00:53:29.000 Well, it's funny, because after I made my point, which was absolutely correct and absolutely accurate, you said you disagreed with me, so they just as easily could have made the headline, Tim Pool supports our, you know, lame left-wing position on this.

00:53:41.000 Fights!

00:53:43.000 Tim Pool defends marriage equality from fascists.

00:53:47.000 From bigoted conservative theocrat or whatever they call me.

00:53:51.000 I gotta say, I'm surprised that this, well, I shouldn't be, but I am surprised that this is, like, a headline It kind of shows how not represented the average person is in media.

00:54:00.000 Because, like, what percentage of the planet are Christians, Muslim, you know?

00:54:05.000 That all of those people don't believe in gay marriage.

00:54:08.000 The majority anyways.

00:54:10.000 So, like, should it be that surprising that a host on a TV show would have a disagreement on this issue?

00:54:17.000 Is that really worthy of a Media Matters article?

00:54:20.000 Or are you guys just admitting that there is, like, no representation of how many people on the planet, Tim?

00:54:26.000 2.38 billion are Christians.

00:54:27.000 Are Christians!

00:54:28.000 Yeah, now do Muslims. 1.00

00:54:29.000 Less than Muslims. 1.00

00:54:30.000 Well, Lorne, I don't know if you know this, but the only reason that you could ever oppose the left-wing orthodoxy on matters of human sexuality is if you actually just like specifically hate people for being gay. 0.98

00:54:40.000 That's it. 0.96

00:54:40.000 2 billion! 0.96

00:54:41.000 So if you take Islam and Christianity together, we're talking about 4.38 billion people.

00:54:50.000 So there's a majority of the earth.

00:54:54.000 You can't have them represented. 0.81

00:54:55.000 That is a shocking opinion to have.

00:54:58.000 No, no.

00:54:58.000 Look, Media Matters, I think they're allowed to have their opinions on whatever they want.

00:55:02.000 The problem is that the headline of that article is just stupid. 0.98

00:55:08.000 Well, I mean analyst it says panelists and I think it was okay. 0.97

00:55:12.000 No, so it was Alec Brusewitz and Seamus agreed with you if I'm not mistaken He said that he believed in this this fictional.

00:55:20.000 I'm okay with gay marriage Brusewitz said I'm okay with gay marriage personally.

00:55:24.000 Okay, whatever but the stuff that's come after it It's been messed up.

00:55:27.000 So I was the person who said the true things and you guys got attacked.

00:55:30.000 I The truth is subjective.

00:55:34.000 Is that the truth, Ian?

00:55:36.000 I'm not sure.

00:55:36.000 We had Jason Whitluck on.

00:55:38.000 He said he disagreed with gay marriage.

00:55:39.000 We talked about it.

00:55:40.000 I said I thought it was a good thing.

00:55:42.000 There are many people that were formerly Democrats that, when this issue was settled, they were like, I can vote Republican now because that was a big deal for me.

00:55:51.000 Now, I think if you want to talk slippery slope, the issue is, if it's bad, it's bad, and you call it bad, I don't think it's a slippery slope to be like, consenting adults can do what they want, children can't consent, they never will be able to, and you're not going to change that no matter what.

00:56:06.000 Yeah so I, and this is the thing, I would agree that it's a bad argument to say this thing which is like otherwise good could lead to this bad thing so we shouldn't do it.

00:56:16.000 I mean my argument is that marriage is between a man and a woman and because enshrining these unions which are Not representative of that, and erode the family. 0.68

00:56:26.000 Incorporating those into our definition of marriage legally is a bad thing to do.

00:56:29.000 It will lead to other bad things.

00:56:31.000 Oh, what were you going to say?

00:56:32.000 Oh, I can't believe how left-wing your take is.

00:56:34.000 Marriage is obviously between a Christian man and a Christian woman.

00:56:37.000 Oh yeah, you're talking about Christian marriage.

00:56:39.000 So there's legal marriage, which is just a legal union.

00:56:42.000 You go down to the courthouse, you sign some papers, and then you have the joint bank account, and you don't get taxed when you give your wife $600,000.

00:56:46.000 There's Christian religion, which is like a spiritual blend.

00:56:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:52.000 Well, there's sacramental marriages.

00:56:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:54.000 And you got to define what you're talking about when you when you're comfortable with who can do it.

00:56:58.000 Because like, legally, they everyone has the right to get married.

00:57:00.000 I mean, I think for the most part, every adult in this country right at the moment has to.

00:57:03.000 There are there are some states where so this is actually funny.

00:57:06.000 I think my brother was looking into this.

00:57:08.000 What states in the in the country allow cousin marriage?

00:57:11.000 What states allow gay marriage?

00:57:12.000 And what states allow gay cousin marriage?

00:57:15.000 And I think New York might be the only one.

00:57:17.000 I don't know.

00:57:18.000 Let me let me see if I can find it.

00:57:20.000 Wait, that allows all three?

00:57:22.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:57:24.000 Well, it's just two.

00:57:25.000 Have we really reached equality if people can't marry their dogs?

00:57:29.000 Um, no.

00:57:30.000 No.

00:57:31.000 Oh, wait.

00:57:31.000 Yes?

00:57:32.000 Maybe?

00:57:33.000 Wait, hold on.

00:57:34.000 In Arizona, first cousin marriage only if both parties are 65 or older?

00:57:37.000 Wait, what?

00:57:38.000 Because they're not going to have kids.

00:57:40.000 They're afraid of inbreeding.

00:57:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:42.000 Oh, interesting.

00:57:43.000 Arizona with the eugenics. 0.89

00:57:46.000 That's super cool.

00:57:47.000 Not eugenics, but that. 0.66

00:57:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:50.000 Look, look. 0.99

00:57:51.000 New York and California allow you to gay marry your cousin. 1.00

00:57:55.000 Wicked. 0.99

00:57:56.000 Why do they make fun of Alabama? 0.99

00:57:56.000 I mean, wild. 0.99

00:57:58.000 Like your first cousin?

00:57:59.000 Oh, wait, hold on.

00:58:01.000 So, uh, so... What's... Let me see if I can pull this up.

00:58:05.000 Yeah, where's, uh... So, in the south you can gay marry... Actually, no, no, no. 0.97

00:58:09.000 Hold on, hold on. 0.77

00:58:10.000 Let me see.

00:58:11.000 By state.

00:58:12.000 Uh, let's see.

00:58:13.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:58:14.000 Well, I suppose because the federal government's Supreme Court has ruled, so all that you got to do is look.

00:58:19.000 You can see South Carolina, Georgia.

00:58:23.000 What do we have?

00:58:23.000 Is that Alabama?

00:58:24.000 Which state is that one?

00:58:25.000 That's Mississippi, right?

00:58:26.000 Mississippi's on the left.

00:58:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:27.000 I don't know these puzzle pieces.

00:58:28.000 Puzzle pieces.

00:58:29.000 And Florida.

00:58:30.000 Oh, that's right.

00:58:30.000 You're Canadian.

00:58:31.000 They do allow... Oh, yeah.

00:58:32.000 Alaska, Hawaii. 0.81

00:58:34.000 Surprisingly, you can gay marry your cousin in a large portion of this country. 0.96

00:58:37.000 Wow. 0.96

00:58:38.000 At last.

00:58:40.000 You know, there's interesting questions there about the challenge of the libertarian argument.

00:58:46.000 So we were talking about the moral foundations the other day, and one of the moral foundations is like, would you allow two consenting adults in any circumstance, like their own private, you know, life?

00:58:58.000 And the argument for gay marriage was always like, two consenting adults in the privacy of their own home can do whatever they want.

00:59:01.000 It's like, what if it's like a daughter and a father?

00:59:03.000 Yeah.

00:59:05.000 No, because inbreeding, it's dangerous, at least from what we know about scientifically.

00:59:09.000 Well, I don't, I don't think the danger is even for the child.

00:59:14.000 The danger is for the, uh, the kid that would be in the relationship with their father.

00:59:19.000 Like, forget the whole eugenics stuff. 0.55

00:59:20.000 If she was 18, I guess, if she's a consenting adult.

00:59:24.000 But I think there's like, I'm not, I don't know the science on inbreeding, but I know that historically it can get pretty bad.

00:59:29.000 I had a mouse that inbred with its child and had another mouse that had a breathing problem.

00:59:33.000 And I rest my case.

00:59:37.000 Source?

00:59:37.000 I don't know.

00:59:38.000 Joffrey from Game of Thrones.

00:59:39.000 You had mice that you had as pets that were basically... They just kept breeding and breeding and they were breeding with their kids and all that.

00:59:45.000 My source?

00:59:45.000 The British.

00:59:47.000 Although, I think humans came from inbreeding.

00:59:49.000 Inbreeding each other, eating a bunch of mushrooms and inbreeding.

00:59:52.000 So, maybe just the weak inbreds die off and then the healthy ones create a new species?

00:59:57.000 So why do you believe that? 0.99

01:00:01.000 In Rhode Island, you can gay marry your dad. 0.96

01:00:04.000 Rhode Island, you can gay marry your dad or your son. 0.97

01:00:04.000 In what? 0.97

01:00:08.000 Oh, wait, wait, wait.

01:00:09.000 Hold on.

01:00:12.000 Okay, no, I guess you can't get married.

01:00:15.000 It's weird.

01:00:15.000 Some states... Rhode Island has repealed its criminal incest statute.

01:00:19.000 Seems kind of weird to me.

01:00:20.000 This is very complex.

01:00:22.000 But there are real challenges to the libertarian argument because, as Ian was mentioning, there's risks.

01:00:28.000 Like, there's a reason why you don't do it.

01:00:30.000 You had deformities and serious problems, and so that's why there's laws against it.

01:00:34.000 But I genuinely think as we move towards this anyone can be anything and do whatever they want phase of reality, or like people are trying to create, You're going to see a lot more of this.

01:00:43.000 I'm willing to bet that we're, you know, 10 or 20 years out from contending adults can do whatever they want in any capacity.

01:00:49.000 It's weird how the pendulum swings.

01:00:50.000 That's how that's like a weird part of reality.

01:00:52.000 Like the kings of old, they would marry their daughter to their cousin to keep the bloodline, what they would call, I don't know if they would call it pure, but it was to keep like all the money in the family and all the power in the family, basically.

01:01:02.000 I believe the ancient Egyptians would do that with their royalty as well.

01:01:05.000 I'm curious how common that was among royal families.

01:01:07.000 King Tut apparently was really sickly as a result of that.

01:01:09.000 Oh yes, siblings is also... Yeah, uncle and nieces is illegal. 1.00

01:01:13.000 They say individual statutes very widely.

01:01:15.000 Rhode Island has repealed its criminal incest statute and only criminalizes incestuous marriage.

01:01:20.000 Ohio targets only parental figures.

01:01:23.000 So that means a brother and sister, I think, would be allowed... two brothers could get married.

01:01:28.000 That's okay.

01:01:28.000 That's really interesting.

01:01:29.000 So you've got the laws around like, okay, you don't want to have incest because obviously that's going to cause problems with the kids. 1.00

01:01:34.000 But then you look at people who have like serious diseases, genetic diseases that they can pass down to their kids.

01:01:40.000 Like, do they outlaw them breeding?

01:01:42.000 No, that's what the Nazis did. 0.69

01:01:44.000 So therein lies... Yeah, there's the problem.

01:01:47.000 So if you're going to ban these people from it because of birth defects and problems, then why not ban people with diseases that they'll pass down?

01:01:54.000 And that's the argument the left will come out when they say, you're a fascist for not allowing brothers to love each other.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, I don't think more of wrong makes the other wrong better.

01:02:02.000 You just want less wrong stuff.

01:02:04.000 Also, this is not an argument from moral foundations or anything, but one objection that comes up in my mind immediately is that you know who is related to whom.

01:02:15.000 You know who the siblings are.

01:02:17.000 You don't go around doing genetic tests of everyone to know if a person has a disease.

01:02:21.000 No, in Iceland they do.

01:02:22.000 Have you heard this?

01:02:25.000 In Iceland they have an app to check to make sure you're not cousins.

01:02:29.000 Because it's like an isolated population.

01:02:31.000 I saw a Reddit post the other day where someone was very visually disabled, arm issues, face issues, so you could see it right away.

01:02:41.000 Put a little TikTok up that was like, oh, people told me I shouldn't have kids, but I did and she's holding her baby and the baby is clearly very deformed too. 0.84

01:02:48.000 And all of the people on Reddit were like, you shouldn't have, you shouldn't have, you shouldn't have, which was very interesting.

01:02:54.000 So like...

01:02:55.000 Yeah, this conversation's been happening since the beginning.

01:02:57.000 Lorne brings up a really, really great point, but that will bring us to a strange position.

01:03:05.000 What is the argument for laws banning parental or lineal or direct family relationships?

01:03:13.000 And it is typically because of the likelihood of the increase or the creation of deformities.

01:03:18.000 But then you argue, do people who already have those deformities have a right to have kids?

01:03:21.000 And they do.

01:03:23.000 Yeah.

01:03:25.000 But there's a good argument to be made.

01:03:27.000 Nature did not intend for people to reproduce or procreate with their siblings.

01:03:31.000 I don't think there's an argument to be made that nature didn't intend people with disabilities to procreate.

01:03:37.000 Wait, say that again?

01:03:38.000 I don't, I mean, there's a good argument to be made.

01:03:39.000 Look, nature did not intend people who are directly related to procreate.

01:03:43.000 I don't think that there's an argument to be made that, like, nature does not intend people with disabilities to procreate.

01:03:47.000 Because most people with disabilities today wouldn't even survive in a natural state without our extreme scientific, like, inventions that keep them breathing and going into hospitals every day. 1.00

01:03:58.000 So, like, nature literally intended for them to die.

01:04:00.000 So I would argue that a person should not get married and start a family unless they are in a position to take care of that family for themselves.

01:04:06.000 But if they are able to do that, it doesn't matter if they have a disability or not.

01:04:09.000 It's their choice.

01:04:10.000 I think tribal history was very incestuous.

01:04:13.000 When there was only like 12 people, they would have to.

01:04:16.000 There's no other choice.

01:04:17.000 And that's kind of where it all began.

01:04:19.000 We've really gone down the rabbit hole.

01:04:21.000 So speaking of, look at what Disney's done to us!

01:04:26.000 Guys, guys, okay, alright.

01:04:28.000 Can we just talk about something serious for a minute?

01:04:30.000 We have this story from Live Science.

01:04:31.000 U.S.

01:04:32.000 government reported proposed nuking the moon.

01:04:34.000 Newly released documents reveal.

01:04:36.000 Seamus, why is the moon flat?

01:04:37.000 Tim, Tim.

01:04:38.000 U.S.

01:04:38.000 government report discusses plan to nuke the moon.

01:04:43.000 My name's Brandon Spector, and our latest report, the U.S.

01:04:46.000 government has proposed nuking the moon, newly released documents reveal.

01:04:50.000 This just in, the moon may be hollow.

01:04:52.000 So, this is a real story.

01:04:54.000 What are they trying to find out if it's hollow, or how hollow it is, I should say?

01:04:57.000 Wait, so hold on, who, wait, U.S.

01:04:59.000 government proposed, but they proposed nuking the moon, is this like the big ask?

01:05:04.000 You know, you propose a certain version of what you want, so you could end up with something less extreme.

01:05:11.000 I actually think if I were to run for office, it would be in the position that we should nuke the moon.

01:05:15.000 So tell me more about this.

01:05:18.000 Why are they doing this?

01:05:19.000 They say, include nearly 1,600 pages of reports, proposals, contracts, and meeting notes to reveal some stranger priorities.

01:05:25.000 A Department of Defense program that ran from 07 to 12, but only became known to the public in 2017, blah, blah, blah.

01:05:31.000 They say new documents suggest they were more than investigating, the entire cache of documents, yada yada.

01:05:36.000 Perhaps most intriguing, look how long it can read.

01:05:38.000 Okay, yeah, so the document here says, let me read this quote.

01:05:41.000 The various advanced technologies, the collections include a transversable wormhole, stargates, and negative energy, high frequency gravitational wave communication, warp drive, dark energy, and the manipulation of extra dimensions, and many other topics that will sound familiar to fans of science fiction.

01:05:54.000 Hold on.

01:05:55.000 I actually I have this so so the proposal says People are talking about cousin marriages.

01:06:00.000 It's time to just end it all.

01:06:01.000 Let's nuke the moon honestly Let's go deeper.

01:06:05.000 Transdimensional waves?

01:06:07.000 Is that what they said?

01:06:08.000 So they're doing like CERN?

01:06:09.000 I saw something about pregnancy down there.

01:06:11.000 Oh, is that where the aliens made people pregnant? 1.00

01:06:14.000 Yeah, unaccounted for pregnancies.

01:06:16.000 Did you guys hear about this?

01:06:17.000 They say the latest FOIA document dump arrived just three weeks after British tabloid The Sun obtained more than 1,500 pages related to alleged UFO encounters cataloged by the AATIP.

01:06:28.000 Including among the documents was a report on the alleged biological effects of UFO encounters on humans.

01:06:33.000 The report listed paralysis, apparent abduction, and unaccounted-for pregnancy as a side effect.

01:06:39.000 Yeah, right.

01:06:39.000 They just didn't want to talk about it.

01:06:41.000 They were like, uh, by the way, I think I had sex with... It's like some woman cheated on her husband, and then she comes back, and he's like, Aliens did it!

01:06:46.000 How did you get pregnant?! 1.00

01:06:47.000 She goes, Aliens?

01:06:49.000 That explains it!

01:06:50.000 I just pulled up that they looked like they were trying to nuke the moon to tunnel through it.

01:06:53.000 Why would they want to tunnel through the moon?

01:06:55.000 To get to the demons. 0.84

01:06:57.000 Why do you assume that you can just say anything no matter how ridiculous and I'm just gonna have your back? 0.97

01:07:05.000 Do you not think aliens are demons? 0.99

01:07:06.000 That's beside the point.

01:07:08.000 I think we're aliens.

01:07:11.000 Oh yeah, so like, a lot of people are actually reporting on the release of these documents.

01:07:14.000 We have this from the New York Post as well.

01:07:17.000 Crowd control heat weapons?

01:07:20.000 Killer space lasers.

01:07:21.000 Alright, you know, I'm listening.

01:07:23.000 What is this?

01:07:24.000 It mirrors an energy source to fire lasers?

01:07:28.000 Atmospheric absorption scattering and it's blowing up a missile or something?

01:07:32.000 Well, that's fun.

01:07:32.000 Maybe they're doing a bit.

01:07:33.000 Oh, so they can spray a laser into the atmosphere and then make it spread out when it hits the atmosphere?

01:07:37.000 No, it's focusing.

01:07:37.000 It's all the lights are pointing together, so the single point You know what happened?

01:07:41.000 Someone got drunk at NASA and forgot to write up their proposal and they're just like, I'll write something so effing wild that no one will question it.

01:07:49.000 It's like the craziest cultists are in the government.

01:07:51.000 I mean, they have all the power in the world, literally.

01:07:53.000 They're the most powerful people in the world.

01:07:55.000 And like, who knows if they're dropping acid and taking mushrooms and like, what?

01:07:58.000 They'd really probably believe it's real.

01:08:00.000 I mean, a lot of people do.

01:08:01.000 He micro-dosed and went a little over and then ruined his plan.

01:08:05.000 You know what happens?

01:08:06.000 We're victims of our own storytelling.

01:08:08.000 So, you know, what happens on YouTube is...

01:08:11.000 Uh, we'll use furries as an example. 0.97

01:08:13.000 Oh, yes, let's.

01:08:13.000 This is my opinion on furries.

01:08:15.000 I think the reason people identify as furry is because they grew up watching Looney Tunes and anthropomorphized animals.

01:08:21.000 So they want to then, when they're older, they dress like cartoon animals.

01:08:25.000 I thought about this because I realized, like, you see these memes about furries and I'm like, they're not dressing like animals, they're dressing like Bugs Bunny.

01:08:31.000 And, like, the big white hands and everything sometimes.

01:08:33.000 They're dressing to hook up with Lola Bunny.

01:08:35.000 It's the amount of people, all that. 0.95

01:08:37.000 It's gross.

01:08:38.000 So, so— Lola made into fruits.

01:08:39.000 Depending on who you ask, like, we've had people super chat and say it's not about

01:08:42.000 just, like, sex. It's about being it and being that thing.

01:08:45.000 And I'm like, yeah, it's because they watched anthropomorphized animals as kids. If that

01:08:49.000 idea didn't exist, they wouldn't have it.

01:08:51.000 So what happens is, you'll get someone, you know, 1947, and the government's like,

01:08:55.000 if they find out about our nuclear, you know, programs, it's going to be bad. So just lie and

01:09:00.000 So turn them into furries so they won't know anything.

01:09:02.000 So then the media reports aliens, some little kid reads it and goes, whoa, aliens!

01:09:06.000 Grows up believing that story and then enlists to join the UFO program, genuinely believing it was aliens the whole time and they're being lied to.

01:09:13.000 And then they tell people, I've seen some weird stuff and I think it's aliens.

01:09:16.000 That kid then grows up being like, whoa, aliens are real.

01:09:19.000 The guy from NASA told me I better go work there.

01:09:22.000 And they just, it perpetuates amongst ourselves.

01:09:24.000 Yeah, Bob Lazar is notoriously made publicly humiliated, basically publicly by saying Zeta Reticuli and the aliens he saw.

01:09:31.000 And I think that was just red herrings that they fed him.

01:09:33.000 Cause they're like, if this guy, they tell their scientists this stuff. 1.00

01:09:35.000 So if they ever go rogue, then they're going to look like idiots. 0.99

01:09:38.000 If they actually knew they were working on drones. 1.00

01:09:39.000 He said he saw a little green man.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, they probably had a stuffed, literally a stuffed animal sitting in it.

01:09:44.000 They want it at a carnival and they're like, they put it in the ship.

01:09:46.000 He changed his story later to be like, it was a puppet.

01:09:49.000 Yeah.

01:09:50.000 Gaslighting them.

01:09:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:51.000 Yeah.

01:09:52.000 No kidding.

01:09:53.000 I don't doubt the drone program though.

01:09:54.000 Tesla was working on some cool technology and I think it was the FBI that went in there and took it.

01:09:58.000 Nuke the moon?

01:09:58.000 Do we have to?

01:09:59.000 I think we want to nuke the poles on Mars, isn't that right? 1.00

01:10:01.000 Mount Rushmore on the moon.

01:10:03.000 Yes.

01:10:03.000 Mount Rushmore on the moon.

01:10:04.000 With his face?

01:10:05.000 Oh, carve it.

01:10:05.000 Yeah, no, we just put Trump's face on the moon.

01:10:08.000 Quite frankly, I think it looks better.

01:10:10.000 Stay seething for eternity.

01:10:11.000 Okay.

01:10:11.000 All right.

01:10:11.000 Let's compromise.

01:10:12.000 We nuke the moon to make an engraving of Trump's face.

01:10:16.000 There we go.

01:10:17.000 I wonder what Media Matters is going to say now.

01:10:19.000 They're going to be like far right calls for nuking the moon to create a portrait of Trump.

01:10:24.000 Yes.

01:10:24.000 And they're right.

01:10:25.000 They're absolutely correct.

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01:10:28.000 And if you would like to help us on our mission, become members at timcast.com.

01:10:30.000 It's the only way we'll do it.

01:10:32.000 We should crowdfund.

01:10:34.000 I mean, Yeah.

01:10:37.000 Can we crowdfund to nuke the moon? 0.96

01:10:38.000 Yeah.

01:10:39.000 There might be laws against that.

01:10:40.000 I think that would probably not be legal.

01:10:42.000 No, you can't nuke other countries, but the moon isn't a country.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 Should it be?

01:10:47.000 And, and you know what happened?

01:10:48.000 All of the flat earther people who think the moon is a space station spying on us would be like, yes, I'll give you money, please.

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:55.000 Do it.

01:10:56.000 Do it.

01:10:57.000 Did you guys ever hear about that guy who built his own rocket ship?

01:10:59.000 And I think he died.

01:11:01.000 Yes.

01:11:01.000 Sounds about right.

01:11:02.000 I don't hear about this.

01:11:05.000 It was like, he was like a flat earther or something, did he?

01:11:08.000 Yeah.

01:11:09.000 Oh my gosh.

01:11:09.000 Wait, no, I think, I don't, I don't know it's that guy.

01:11:11.000 So what was he?

01:11:12.000 Well, there's a lot of guys who made homemade rockets, but there was, oh, I think this might be it.

01:11:17.000 Yeah.

01:11:17.000 What'd he do?

01:11:18.000 No, no, this was just a daredevil.

01:11:19.000 I don't want to disparage this guy.

01:11:20.000 Um, he was just trying to do it, but I read a story about a guy who like made his own rocket cause he wanted to prove the earth was flat or something.

01:11:25.000 And then he like, he died.

01:11:26.000 Oh my gosh.

01:11:28.000 Flat earthers are funny, man. 0.99

01:11:29.000 Physics is pretty cool.

01:11:30.000 Yeah.

01:11:31.000 A guy made a rocket and died.

01:11:33.000 Physics is cool.

01:11:34.000 I mean, he thought the Earth was flat.

01:11:36.000 Go with the physics on this one, guys.

01:11:38.000 It's round.

01:11:39.000 It looks very spherical from space and through measurements.

01:11:41.000 Have you ever been to space, Ian?

01:11:42.000 Horizontal longitude and latitude.

01:11:45.000 Have you ever been to space?

01:11:47.000 Not consciously.

01:11:49.000 How do you know, then?

01:11:50.000 I've seen pictures.

01:11:51.000 Pictures?

01:11:52.000 How do you know they're not just fish-eye lenses?

01:11:53.000 I've seen streaming live from the ISS.

01:11:56.000 Fish-eye lens.

01:11:57.000 You think that they're not actually streaming live from the ISS?

01:11:59.000 I think the Earth is round, bro, but this is the point that they make.

01:12:02.000 Ever been to Antarctica?

01:12:04.000 Are you really sure you're you?

01:12:06.000 How do you know what you are, Tim?

01:12:08.000 Like, come on, guys.

01:12:09.000 At some point, physics is real.

01:12:11.000 Right, that's not my point.

01:12:12.000 My point is, when you talk to flat-earthers, no matter what you say, they have an answer. 1.00

01:12:16.000 Yeah, that's why I don't talk to them.

01:12:17.000 No, I do talk to them.

01:12:18.000 You don't want to be debunked.

01:12:19.000 You're too scared.

01:12:20.000 You're terrified of debating them.

01:12:21.000 I don't try to change their mind.

01:12:23.000 I'll debunk your YouTube videos.

01:12:24.000 Like tens of thousands of years ago, they thought it was really flat.

01:12:26.000 They thought it was on the back of a turtle or something.

01:12:28.000 No.

01:12:28.000 Different cultures are that different.

01:12:29.000 On the back of a turtle.

01:12:30.000 And they were like, if you sail too far west, you're going to fall off the earth.

01:12:33.000 So they didn't.

01:12:34.000 No, I don't think that's true.

01:12:36.000 The story is that Eratosthenes accurately calculated the circumference of the earth by measuring shadows at two different points at the same time or something.

01:12:44.000 And it's funny because the flat earthers are like, how was he able to coordinate that?

01:12:48.000 How did he do it if he didn't have a cell phone?

01:12:52.000 And I'm like, oh geez, people couldn't communicate over long distances back then, like fire didn't exist, smoke didn't exist, and general timing didn't exist. 0.91

01:12:59.000 It's just ridiculous.

01:13:00.000 Yeah, he had two towers, he measured their shadows and said, here's how you know how big the thing is on. 0.72

01:13:05.000 We're on.

01:13:06.000 And then, apparently, we never thought the Earth was flat, because as soon as we discovered seafaring, you'd see things go over the horizon.

01:13:13.000 Boats would appear to go down as they got to the horizon too far away, and so they were like, we're on a big ball.

01:13:19.000 Yeah, that must have been super ancient, before they even realized the horizon bends when you look out at the ocean to the side.

01:13:24.000 That's the turtle shell.

01:13:25.000 You guys are gonna be so mad when you find out we're on a turtle.

01:13:28.000 Thank you.

01:13:29.000 Can you imagine, like, you die?

01:13:30.000 Well, what is the turtle on?

01:13:32.000 I would be stoked.

01:13:33.000 What is the turtle on?

01:13:34.000 Are you joking?

01:13:35.000 Don't say LSD.

01:13:38.000 Because it's obvious.

01:13:39.000 Yeah, don't tell me this turtle's on DMT.

01:13:41.000 What's sustaining this turtle?

01:13:43.000 It's called the world's turtle.

01:13:44.000 It's floating in the void, and it's the energy.

01:13:47.000 Curious.

01:13:47.000 This is an actual theory.

01:13:49.000 Not a bunch of elephants, duh.

01:13:50.000 Bro, Ian. 1.00

01:13:51.000 Ian, you are so dumb. 1.00

01:13:52.000 You didn't know this? 1.00

01:13:53.000 Look at that discus earth.

01:13:55.000 Did you not?

01:13:56.000 It's a flat earth attached to a space turtle.

01:13:59.000 Where does that come from?

01:14:00.000 An elephant on a turtle.

01:14:01.000 Is this Hindu? 1.00

01:14:04.000 I like how the moon is still a sphere and so is the sun.

01:14:11.000 Yeah, don't ask me.

01:14:12.000 I don't know.

01:14:12.000 Oh, yeah, it's Hindu mythology.

01:14:14.000 And then we enter the Kali Yuga and the world turtle flips around or something. 0.89

01:14:18.000 Is that what happened?

01:14:19.000 I don't know.

01:14:21.000 If I died, and then like, could see that the world turtle I'd be stoked.

01:14:27.000 I got a question.

01:14:27.000 It was a turtle.

01:14:28.000 If you guys could either watch the formation of the of the solar system and as fast as you want to just to see it happen or have a conversation with Jesus, what would you pick?

01:14:36.000 Jesus.

01:14:37.000 I talk to Jesus.

01:14:38.000 He would tell me.

01:14:38.000 We pray.

01:14:40.000 Jesus would tell you all about all of that stuff.

01:14:42.000 I would watch the universe personally.

01:14:44.000 You, what would you say?

01:14:46.000 Jesus.

01:14:47.000 Yeah.

01:14:47.000 But tell you what though, exactly?

01:14:48.000 I don't know.

01:14:49.000 I feel like he's just a guy that got taken out of context.

01:14:51.000 Well, I guess it depends in what context are you talking to Jesus, like right now?

01:14:53.000 Yeah, if you could just have a real conversation with him while he's alive.

01:14:56.000 He's just God, right?

01:14:58.000 So basically what you're saying is you're not talking about conventional prayer.

01:15:01.000 You're saying you ask God any question, he gives you the answer.

01:15:04.000 Is that basically it?

01:15:04.000 Yeah, if you could go back to like 3... Like you don't, like guaranteed it's gonna be, yeah, you're not gonna be fooling yourself.

01:15:09.000 If you could go to 3 AD, like it might make Christians no longer Christian if they meet him. 0.92

01:15:12.000 They're like, whoa, he actually is just a guy.

01:15:14.000 Like if you could go back to 3 AD and sit down with the dude and talk to him, or whatever, when he was 24 or something.

01:15:19.000 Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of saints got persecuted, boiled, and hung for just a guy.

01:15:24.000 I heard that there's a book about it, actually, that the Roman emperor at the time and a bunch of Roman oligarchs made Christianity to disempower the Jews because they had too much power.

01:15:37.000 To get to your actual question, you have to have, it's like, would you, would you want to talk to a guy people think is God?

01:15:47.000 Or would you want to see the universe form?

01:15:49.000 Those are two very, very distinct questions.

01:15:51.000 Well, obviously I would like to have a supernatural experience watching the formation of the universe, but if the premise is that Jesus is God, I'd be like, I'd much rather talk to Jesus.

01:15:59.000 Well, there's no premise.

01:16:01.000 That's why I just asked the question blandly like that.

01:16:03.000 So you need to ask the question.

01:16:04.000 So you have different belief structures, obviously.

01:16:07.000 That's why I'm interested.

01:16:08.000 For people who believe Jesus is God, they'd be like, I would like to talk to Jesus.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, I would think, I would think so.

01:16:12.000 For you, when you're like, it was just a guy.

01:16:13.000 It's like, well, that's a different question.

01:16:14.000 I don't know if it was just a guy, but I'd still rather watch the universe get formed.

01:16:17.000 Cause I don't know if it was a binary star collision or not.

01:16:19.000 Okay, so you watch the universe get formed, and you don't really get too many answers.

01:16:23.000 Okay, great, it formed somehow, science, whatever.

01:16:27.000 Giant turtle.

01:16:28.000 Giant turtle.

01:16:29.000 But you get to talk to Jesus, and you get to find out the fate of your soul in the afterlife.

01:16:33.000 Like, why wouldn't you... Well, I want to find out if it was a Z-pinch that caused the sun to, like, overcharge itself and then spit out all this matter, or if it was a binary star collision that caused it to arc out and create Saturn.

01:16:44.000 And that's more important than your eternity?

01:16:46.000 Yeah, but what's the guarantee that Jesus would tell you about your eternity?

01:16:49.000 I actually think he'd be like, I don't know.

01:16:51.000 I think about the universe forming too.

01:16:52.000 I wish I could go with you.

01:16:53.000 I kind of think that God or Jesus would say, you know, you need to live your experience and live your life.

01:17:00.000 And well, no, that's my point is we can pray now and ask God questions now.

01:17:04.000 Yeah.

01:17:04.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:17:05.000 But I think you get an answer through your own human filter.

01:17:09.000 I think people can absolutely pray and deceive themselves and think they're hearing from God and they're just hearing from themselves.

01:17:14.000 Can I just choose to believe we're on the back of a turtle?

01:17:16.000 Yeah, I mean, Tim, look, you can choose to believe.

01:17:18.000 I think that's called psychosis.

01:17:19.000 This just in!

01:17:20.000 The universe has been discovered to be on the back of a turtle.

01:17:23.000 More at 9 o'clock.

01:17:24.000 I guess, what is evidence, really?

01:17:25.000 You know, just agreed upon information?

01:17:28.000 Oh, it's held up by elephants.

01:17:30.000 Yeah, elephants on the turtles back.

01:17:32.000 That is crazy, like why?

01:17:33.000 Somebody was smoking when they thought of that.

01:17:36.000 They're like, you know the earth?

01:17:37.000 It's flat.

01:17:38.000 And they're like, it is?

01:17:39.000 Yeah.

01:17:40.000 Held up by elephants.

01:17:41.000 Where?

01:17:42.000 What are the elephants on?

01:17:43.000 Here it is.

01:17:43.000 A turtle.

01:17:44.000 This book that I mentioned is called Creating Christ, How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity.

01:17:49.000 Uh, and when I heard that, it was just like a couple weeks ago, someone mentioned it to me.

01:17:53.000 I thought, that is not far out of the question.

01:17:55.000 Can we get a vote?

01:17:56.000 very hard for a historical the jewishness completely against that.

01:17:59.000 Guys, guys, can we get a vote all in favor of giving Ian title of blasphemer?

01:18:04.000 Well think about it logically.

01:18:06.000 The Jews at the time had massive political power, and the Romans were really authoritarian.

01:18:11.000 So I could see they wouldn't stop at nothing.

01:18:12.000 You could make anything.

01:18:13.000 Why would they allow the Sanhedrin and, you know, the Roman government to destroy what they had created for the purpose of getting rid of the power of Jews in Rome? 0.96

01:18:21.000 I don't know anything about the Sanhedrin.

01:18:22.000 When did they get created?

01:18:23.000 That's like the powerful Jews in Rome, from my understanding. 1.00

01:18:26.000 Maybe I'm just using big words like Vosch.

01:18:29.000 Tell me, blaspheme for me more, Ian.

01:18:32.000 Oh, let me tell you about it.

01:18:33.000 Why would they destroy what they created and allow the group they were trying to destroy through it to do that as well?

01:18:39.000 I would imagine it's because it was generations later and the people were changed at that point.

01:18:42.000 Maybe people were like, wow, what have we done?

01:18:44.000 Let's rectify or stuff like that, maybe.

01:18:46.000 I don't know much about what you had mentioned.

01:18:48.000 What year was, you know, what years it all happened?

01:18:50.000 This purports that it was like in 70 AD or something that they got...

01:18:54.000 I don't know if we can really serve these conversations very well without scholars.

01:19:03.000 That's also what I'm saying is, I'm not just talking about Catholic scholars.

01:19:07.000 The scholarly consensus, atheistic or otherwise, is that Jesus Christ Existed, right?

01:19:13.000 I believe he exists, but there are no scholars.

01:19:16.000 I mean, mythicism is a fringe position.

01:19:18.000 Mythicism is the belief that Jesus didn't exist.

01:19:21.000 He's completely fictional.

01:19:22.000 That is the slim minority view.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, I don't think I would imagine he existed, but that they call it the Roman.

01:19:31.000 They call it the Roman.

01:19:32.000 Catholic Church.

01:19:33.000 It's Roman, dude.

01:19:35.000 Rome was the empire.

01:19:36.000 Like, why does the empire have a religion?

01:19:38.000 Let me pull up this story that is directly related to what Ian is talking about.

01:19:43.000 TimCast.com reports, Boston police launch hate crime investigation after teenagers attack white woman with braids.

01:19:49.000 The attack is the latest in a series of crimes committed by juveniles in the city's District A1.

01:19:54.000 And I would also add, this has nothing to do with what Ian was talking about.

01:19:57.000 Yeah, but you're right on the money.

01:19:58.000 Great segue.

01:19:59.000 Awesome.

01:20:00.000 I was like, can I do the worst possible segway?

01:20:03.000 I thought this story was interesting because we've been seeing an increase in crime.

01:20:07.000 We've also been seeing wokeness going crazy. 0.99

01:20:10.000 So when there was a report that they're like, it's racially motivated because the woman was white and she had braids, these guys basically attacked her because she was culturally appropriating braids.

01:20:19.000 And the city's saying it's a hate crime.

01:20:20.000 Is that what it's?

01:20:21.000 Can you read that bit?

01:20:23.000 So they said the Boston police are investigating a possible racially motivated crime after a group of teenagers attacked a woman in the city's downtown.

01:20:30.000 The headline is a white woman with braids.

01:20:32.000 But was it because she had braids?

01:20:34.000 So that's the initial reporting I saw.

01:20:36.000 It said police noted in the report the woman was in distress and highly animated.

01:20:40.000 Oh, here we go.

01:20:40.000 The girls allegedly punched and kicked the woman and pulled her by the hair because she was... Here we go.

01:20:46.000 One of the victims said a group of girls called her a white expletive with braids who should not wear her hair in that style because she was not black before assaulting her. 0.97

01:20:55.000 The girls allegedly punched and kicked the woman and pulled her by her hair. 1.00

01:20:59.000 Okay, so if this never actually happened, and instead a leftist invented a story of this happening to a black person, like completely fabricated a hate crime like this, it would be in the national news cycle for days and days.

01:21:16.000 No, they're not going to talk about this.

01:21:18.000 I always like pointing out that Bill Maher, a week after Covington was debunked, still maintained the lie.

01:21:23.000 Because the dude just, like, doesn't know how to Google stuff.

01:21:26.000 I get nervous about the term hate crime.

01:21:28.000 Seems like it's too subjective.

01:21:30.000 I like that it's finally being used both ways, though.

01:21:33.000 Like, there was just a Calgary police tweet where it was just some graffiti that said, like, F white people, white people shouldn't exist anymore.

01:21:40.000 And they're, like, investigating a hate crime. 0.93

01:21:42.000 And people were seething, balding in the comments.

01:21:45.000 And I was like, well, you know what?

01:21:47.000 This is where we're at.

01:21:48.000 And it should be fair.

01:21:50.000 If they're going to investigate it one way, they have to do it the other.

01:21:52.000 But that is giving in to ridiculous laws.

01:21:58.000 Like, I think we should have equality.

01:22:00.000 If you attack someone, you attack them.

01:22:03.000 If it's just like, well, we think you did it for a specific reason related to, like, how they looked, now you get worse punishment?

01:22:09.000 I'm like, no, dude.

01:22:10.000 Assault is assault.

01:22:11.000 Battery is battery.

01:22:12.000 Motivations... It's weird, in my opinion.

01:22:16.000 I don't like hate crime.

01:22:17.000 I remember that New York subway attack, like, a few weeks ago, where the guy shot, like, 26 people or something.

01:22:22.000 No one died, I think.

01:22:23.000 10 people, I think.

01:22:24.000 10 people, okay.

01:22:24.000 Terrible aim.

01:22:25.000 They were like, we're investigating this.

01:22:27.000 This is not... But we believe it is not an act of terrorism.

01:22:30.000 I'm like, what?

01:22:31.000 The guy terrorized everyone on the train, that's terror.

01:22:33.000 I don't care, use the word or don't, but it's like that they're using that word, like, hate crime, terror attack, to make it more dangerous.

01:22:40.000 But it's like, how do you know?

01:22:41.000 You know what's crazy? 0.83

01:22:42.000 Every headline would be like, oh, if it were the other way around, like a white guy who shot up the place, they'd be like, if this were a brown man, they'd call it a terror attack.

01:22:50.000 That's so true.

01:22:51.000 Every time.

01:22:53.000 Yeah, they're very reluctant to apply that label to anyone who isn't white, basically.

01:22:57.000 I don't like it.

01:22:58.000 The terror attack thing is new.

01:22:59.000 20 years new.

01:23:00.000 I don't like it.

01:23:01.000 Well, I mean, it's terrorism, right?

01:23:03.000 If I understand properly, the actual technical definition of terrorism is you're trying to use fear to get people to comply with your political motives.

01:23:12.000 But this guy had posted a bunch of black nationalist stuff.

01:23:16.000 Remember the Antifa guy who had the 9mm with the drum?

01:23:20.000 And it was like in Ohio or whatever.

01:23:21.000 Do you guys remember that?

01:23:23.000 They said that it wasn't politically motivated.

01:23:25.000 They said it wasn't leftist violence.

01:23:27.000 And I'm like, dude, I don't care what you think.

01:23:29.000 Yeah.

01:23:30.000 If a dude's posting crazy Antifa stuff and then goes and shoots people up, my only assumption is this is his driving motivation.

01:23:37.000 Yeah.

01:23:37.000 The worldview he lives in.

01:23:39.000 Now, was the reason he pulled the trigger was to enact communism?

01:23:42.000 I don't know.

01:23:42.000 He was a far-left extremist who engaged in an act.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, he definitely intentionally set it up and did it.

01:23:47.000 Well, sorry, I was thinking about that.

01:23:49.000 You can literally be a terrorist as long as you're on the left, though, and they just won't mention it.

01:23:53.000 Do you know Dr. Tedros, the head of the World Health Organization?

01:23:56.000 I just found out last week he was literally a member of a banned terror organization.

01:24:00.000 What?

01:24:01.000 Yeah, the Tigray People's Liberation Army.

01:24:03.000 Look it up right now.

01:24:04.000 Dr. Tedros, he's the guy who we got all our updates for from the World Health Organization on COVID.

01:24:11.000 People's Liberation Army.

01:24:12.000 Go to his Wikipedia and look at early life.

01:24:15.000 And it just says that Oh, he was a part of this little group, the Tigray rebels.

01:24:21.000 And then if you click on the group name, he was literally a part of their political party

01:24:27.000 for years.

01:24:28.000 He was even been accused of supplying arms.

01:24:30.000 They killed a bunch of people.

01:24:32.000 They were a banned party in Ethiopia for terrorism.

01:24:35.000 Tedros was a member of the Tigray People's Liberation Front, the leading group in a coalition

01:24:39.000 of movements known as the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front.

01:24:43.000 In a successful bid to overthrow Mengistu Hail Mariam.

01:24:47.000 Now click on Tigray People's Liberation Front.

01:24:49.000 Notice how they don't mention in that sentence at all that it's a terror organization.

01:24:53.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:24:53.000 It's an ethnic nationalist organization, paramilitary group, and banned political party.

01:24:58.000 Can you imagine if any of us were a part of that what our Wikipedia page would look like?

01:25:02.000 It sure as hell wouldn't be a single sentence not mentioning ethnic nationalist, terrorist, or banned.

01:25:09.000 But they just He's the head of the World Health Organization!

01:25:14.000 That's insane!

01:25:15.000 That is, that is unbelievable.

01:25:17.000 I think about, like, forgiveness and, like, when someone's radicalized.

01:25:20.000 Who was it we had on the show?

01:25:22.000 When someone's radicalized when they're young and they're in terror organizations.

01:25:24.000 Oh, Majid.

01:25:25.000 He was probably Majid.

01:25:26.000 Majid Nawaz was, like, for, like, 10 or 12 years, he was, like, a hardcore, basically doing what this guy was doing and then snapped out of it and was, like, and basically now he's talking about de-radicalization and stuff.

01:25:35.000 He's big, talks a lot about the Azov in Ukraine and how we're, if we're funding that, we're funding a radical ethnic you know, cleansive group. So maybe, you know, I don't want 0.98

01:25:45.000 to like this guy. I'm not a big fan of the World Health Organization, but I'm not... just because

01:25:49.000 he was in an organization when he was younger doesn't mean that he's a bad person. He wasn't

01:25:52.000 younger, he was like a politician, a part of this group, like an adult. And the point isn't

01:25:57.000 even like him, about him personally, it's the fact that this isn't mentioned anywhere.

01:26:02.000 That he can become the head of the World Health Organization with no fuss about the fact that he was part of a terror organization. 0.68

01:26:08.000 Oh yeah, Majid Nawaz talks openly about his experiences.

01:26:10.000 If he was hiding it, that'd be a completely different story.

01:26:12.000 Yeah.

01:26:16.000 Yep, no, it's insane.

01:26:17.000 Don't put the camera on me, I'm eating maraschino cherries.

01:26:21.000 No, I'm eating maraschino cherries.

01:26:23.000 Of course, yeah.

01:26:24.000 What were you gonna say, Seamus?

01:26:25.000 Well, I was gonna mention something earlier, but... Seamus wants to talk about the IRA.

01:26:30.000 Exactly, hold on.

01:26:33.000 I knew someone was gonna go there.

01:26:34.000 I don't know what I'm doing to invite this kind of hate.

01:26:37.000 What's that orange?

01:26:39.000 It's nothing, it's nothing.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, what is that?

01:26:40.000 So anyway...

01:26:44.000 No, I mean, of course, this guy's Facebook page, as you mentioned, his social media accounts were filled with a bunch of left-wing rhetoric and their argument is... I actually don't even really make an argument about it.

01:26:55.000 They just don't say anything, but that's ridiculous. 0.79

01:26:57.000 I mean, if somebody committed a massacre and their social media was full of them posting things like, the goblins watch me and like the voices tell me to shoot 0.73

01:27:05.000 people we wouldn't assume that that was unrelated to them going out and hurting people and yet when

01:27:10.000 someone's posting like incendiary insane left-wing rhetoric that's just not even a potential

01:27:15.000 motivation for why they would go out and kill people once they do. You know look I can't

01:27:19.000 speak for right-wing channels.

01:27:22.000 I don't know.

01:27:23.000 But, um, when you have these prominent left-wing podcasts just outright lie about all of this stuff, they'll be like, you know, you'll mention this and they'll be like, no, he isn't.

01:27:32.000 You'll be like, he's a member of the group.

01:27:33.000 No, he's not.

01:27:34.000 And you're like, I'm reading about it right now.

01:27:36.000 But no, you're not.

01:27:37.000 Like the Taylor Lorenz thing is just, yeah.

01:27:39.000 Hey, you know, they linked to her private address.

01:27:41.000 No, they didn't.

01:27:42.000 Yeah, they did.

01:27:44.000 It's not our home.

01:27:45.000 Okay, well, it is, but it's also her work- I guess it's her work address, if that's your argument.

01:27:48.000 No, they didn't.

01:27:49.000 It's been debunked, Tim.

01:27:50.000 They don't do that.

01:27:52.000 It's just like, what's the point of even trying to talk to these people?

01:27:55.000 It's so annoying.

01:27:55.000 I'm just gonna say it right now.

01:27:56.000 I've said it before, I'll say it again.

01:27:58.000 What's the point of negotiating with someone who will look at, like, they'll look at this bottle and say, I have a glass bottle, and they'll go, no, you don't.

01:28:05.000 I'm literally holding a glass bottle.

01:28:06.000 No, you're not.

01:28:07.000 Okay.

01:28:08.000 Well, if we can't agree on something I'm literally doing, then I don't know what's the point of talking.

01:28:11.000 Only to, like, um, measure emotions.

01:28:13.000 To, like, tone them down.

01:28:15.000 Or tone down yourself.

01:28:16.000 Only to listen to their feelings.

01:28:17.000 It's mostly about feelings with people like that.

01:28:19.000 Now, it says that Tedros was a member of this group, but what does it say about Lauren Southern?

01:28:24.000 Let's not read my- We don't- We don't read my Wikipedia page, okay, Tim?

01:28:28.000 This is good.

01:28:28.000 Should I read it?

01:28:30.000 Sure.

01:28:30.000 Lauren Southern is 26.

01:28:31.000 Wow.

01:28:33.000 Ancient.

01:28:34.000 Way too young for the 90s.

01:28:35.000 A Canadian alt-right YouTuber.

01:28:37.000 What does that even mean, alt-right?

01:28:39.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:28:40.000 Did they take out white nationalists? 0.96

01:28:42.000 They took out white nationalists since our last episode! 0.89

01:28:45.000 Congratulations!

01:28:46.000 Look what happens when you highlight alt-right!

01:28:49.000 It doesn't matter!

01:28:52.000 How nice, how lovely.

01:28:54.000 Wow.

01:28:55.000 Wikipedia is a joke.

01:28:59.000 What does it say about South Africa up there?

01:29:00.000 Something about... Which one?

01:29:01.000 This one?

01:29:03.000 She has been described as an advocate of white genocide conspiracy theory for her documentary Farmlands.

01:29:09.000 You know what? 0.97

01:29:09.000 The conclusion of Farmlands is that there isn't a white genocide, but that we're approaching steps where we have rhetoric in government saying we need to kill white people, which I think pretty fair, right? 0.97

01:29:19.000 If government elected officials are saying we need to kill boar, They were singing it. 0.98

01:29:27.000 They have a song.

01:29:31.000 I've heard a lot about it.

01:29:32.000 This is the farm attacks where white farmers were getting attacked in South Africa because they thought you're colonialists and we kind of thing.

01:29:38.000 Yeah, there's like massive groups, the EFF, Black Land First, that literally just advocate killing and taking the land from the boar.

01:29:47.000 They have songs about it that they've sung, like full-on hate speech, farmers just getting murdered on their property for the crime of being white and owning land. 0.53

01:29:55.000 Like, it's horrendous.

01:29:56.000 And, you know, racism is a problem all around in that country, amongst all groups.

01:29:59.000 Like, different ethnic groups, like, within just the African context.

01:30:05.000 Tribal groups are super racist against each other. 0.86

01:30:08.000 That's, like, very much a norm there, unfortunately.

01:30:10.000 But, like, to not acknowledge that it's happening in a political context, is wild to me, especially in the West.

01:30:19.000 It's so obvious and out there, too.

01:30:21.000 One second of Google, but I guess, as you mentioned, Tim, these people don't understand how Google works, I guess.

01:30:25.000 They don't have access to their own computers.

01:30:26.000 Or they just lie.

01:30:27.000 I have a slightly off-topic statement I'd like to make.

01:30:30.000 Seamus, you said earlier that you're from Ireland, or your family was from Ireland.

01:30:33.000 No, I'm not.

01:30:34.000 I'm not.

01:30:34.000 No, I'm joking.

01:30:34.000 This is the thing.

01:30:35.000 Why are you doing this to me?

01:30:36.000 People are going to start calling me a poser.

01:30:38.000 I never My question is, it sounds like Ireland is how you would say the word island with an Irish accent.

01:30:44.000 Ireland.

01:30:44.000 I'm on the Ireland!

01:30:45.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:30:47.000 Is that real?

01:30:48.000 I don't know.

01:30:48.000 Oh, that was my question.

01:30:49.000 I don't think so.

01:30:50.000 The people from the Ireland.

01:30:51.000 Let me look up the etymology.

01:30:52.000 I got a test here. 0.96

01:30:54.000 Come out ye black and tans, come out and fight. 1.00

01:30:56.000 No? 0.99

01:30:57.000 Fight me like a man? 0.87

01:30:58.000 Yeah, there we go! 1.00

01:30:59.000 He's a terrorist. 0.98

01:31:00.000 You're from Chicago. 0.99

01:31:01.000 No, I just know Irish songs.

01:31:03.000 I love Ireland.

01:31:05.000 Yeah.

01:31:06.000 What?

01:31:06.000 Why?

01:31:07.000 What are you doing?

01:31:08.000 This is unbelievable.

01:31:09.000 This is slander.

01:31:11.000 I want to let everyone know that I was just smeared by white nationalist Lawrence Southern for my ethnic identity.

01:31:17.000 I watched it happen.

01:31:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:18.000 I was like six feet away.

01:31:20.000 As a non-white man.

01:31:21.000 Definitely.

01:31:21.000 That's very offensive.

01:31:22.000 Definitely the British were like, those are people on the Ireland. 0.99

01:31:25.000 There was a meme recently released.

01:31:28.000 They can track the data on Google, the most searched countries within countries in Europe.

01:31:34.000 And it was showing like, oh, Ukraine is being the most searched country outside of people's own country in every country in Europe, except one place, Ireland.

01:31:42.000 And guess what their most searched country was?

01:31:44.000 British.

01:31:45.000 Never, always watch your back.

01:31:48.000 It was!

01:31:48.000 Their most searched country was England.

01:31:50.000 They're part of the British Empire.

01:31:52.000 They're like under the boot of the British Empire, basically.

01:31:54.000 They don't want to be.

01:31:55.000 From what I can tell, a lot of them don't want to be.

01:31:57.000 So what is it?

01:31:58.000 The IRA and the Irish, was it an attempted revolution that they wanted freedom from Britain and like half the country got it and the other half is still British?

01:32:05.000 I don't know, Lauren's the expert on this.

01:32:08.000 I am by no means anyway an expert, no, very little.

01:32:11.000 But, you know, Ireland was what?

01:32:13.000 Enslaved by the British for 800 years?

01:32:16.000 Was it 800?

01:32:16.000 Long time, yeah.

01:32:17.000 British colonists.

01:32:18.000 Yeah, and so they were like not happy with it.

01:32:21.000 Lots of Catholics killed, lots of people starved to death.

01:32:23.000 But the North was, the Orange is like the Orange Order. 0.92

01:32:26.000 I think that has something to do with the Dutch, doesn't it?

01:32:28.000 Hmm.

01:32:29.000 That was Protestant. 0.62

01:32:29.000 Yeah, that's my understanding is that the orange always represented the Protestants, the Brits. 0.62

01:32:34.000 Oh, okay.

01:32:34.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:32:36.000 Now, you know, I was there with you, wasn't I?

01:32:39.000 Yeah, when they were doing the burnings.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, that was cool.

01:32:41.000 That was really wild.

01:32:42.000 The peace wall makes no sense.

01:32:44.000 Wait, you guys were in Ireland together?

01:32:46.000 We were in Ireland on that day.

01:32:50.000 We'll accuse him of being some kind of Irish terrorist on the podcast, but to actually go to Ireland now, he doesn't, he doesn't need to.

01:32:57.000 They were burning the Irish flag on these like giant pallets, like built Insanely high.

01:33:03.000 It's like July the 7th or something.

01:33:05.000 I can't remember, but it was like a Northern Irish holiday where they just like burn effigies of British politicians.

01:33:11.000 The peace wall made no sense because like one side was like pro-Palestine and one side was pro-Israel.

01:33:17.000 And you're like, what does that have to do with what's going on?

01:33:20.000 It's the foreign funding going into each side.

01:33:22.000 No, it was just tribalism.

01:33:23.000 Yeah.

01:33:24.000 It got to the point where, this is what that one dude was telling us, he was like, if one side adopted a principle or idea, the other side would take the opposite just for the sake of taking the opposite.

01:33:31.000 Well then yeah, they had like Obama and Nelson Mandela on the Irish side of the wall, and then they had, yeah, all this like right-wing stuff on the Northern Irish side.

01:33:38.000 It was really weird.

01:33:39.000 I remember that.

01:33:40.000 Does that come from like trying not to get, to hear people not to go to the other side?

01:33:43.000 You're like, no, everything they're saying is wrong.

01:33:45.000 Don't even think about it.

01:33:46.000 It's like right now, when a leftist will say to me, Washington Post didn't dox anybody.

01:33:51.000 And I'll be like, here's a link to them doing it.

01:33:53.000 No, they didn't.

01:33:54.000 It's like they just have to say that because they're in a cult.

01:33:56.000 They go, I know you are, but what am I?

01:33:58.000 And I'm like, dude, you're in a cult.

01:34:00.000 I got no point talking to you.

01:34:01.000 All right, how about we do this?

01:34:02.000 I'll talk to you.

01:34:03.000 We'll go to Super Chats.

01:34:04.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and let's read what y'all have to say after that particularly raucous conversation.

01:34:14.000 Rylo says, why is Trump talking smack about CNN Plus when I can't even get into Truth Social?

01:34:19.000 Whatever, man.

01:34:20.000 Ubuntu 22.04 is out.

01:34:22.000 Ian, Fedora or Ubuntu?

01:34:25.000 I haven't used Fedora.

01:34:26.000 I really have liked Ubuntu in the past, so Ubuntu.

01:34:29.000 It's an operating system.

01:34:31.000 Yeah.

01:34:31.000 Only the cool kids know about it.

01:34:33.000 It's for cool.

01:34:34.000 Only cool guys use it.

01:34:35.000 Ubuntu, it means something like love of the community or something.

01:34:37.000 Yes.

01:34:38.000 Like an African concept.

01:34:38.000 Something like we are one, right?

01:34:39.000 Yeah.

01:34:40.000 Steven Valdez says, are we seeing the beginning of the end of woke?

01:34:43.000 I wouldn't count on it.

01:34:44.000 Humanity to others.

01:34:45.000 Just Googled it.

01:34:46.000 So Ubuntu means.

01:34:48.000 Nobody?

01:34:49.000 Nobody?

01:34:49.000 Wait, can you repeat that?

01:34:50.000 I'm sorry.

01:34:51.000 Are we seeing the end of woke?

01:34:52.000 It is both the end and the beginning, my friends.

01:34:54.000 And forever it will be.

01:34:56.000 Leftism never goes away because it just means social decay and everything humans make breaks down eventually.

01:35:03.000 What we can do is try to be productive people and stave it off, but it's never gone forever.

01:35:08.000 Yep, well that is true.

01:35:09.000 That's my understanding.

01:35:09.000 Don't forget that Trump's truth social has already flopped before it started.

01:35:13.000 They violated the code license of Mastodon when they claimed it was their own proprietary

01:35:16.000 code.

01:35:17.000 Yep.

01:35:18.000 Well, that is true.

01:35:19.000 I will say Ian called them out early for it before they launched, but was correct when 1.00

01:35:23.000 they launched.

01:35:24.000 They did not admit to it.

01:35:25.000 That's my understanding.

01:35:26.000 And the platform's just been, yeah, people have had a hard time getting in.

01:35:30.000 They're on the wait list for months or something.

01:35:32.000 You want to follow the president?

01:35:33.000 I do.

01:35:33.000 He ain't here.

01:35:34.000 Like, okay, what am I doing?

01:35:36.000 He's not allowed on Twitter.

01:35:37.000 He's not even allowed on his own website.

01:35:39.000 Hysterical.

01:35:41.000 Yeah.

01:35:42.000 Mike Sullivan says, rather feed the chickens.

01:35:45.000 Well, it is true.

01:35:45.000 Uh, we made, I think we made, I'm pretty sure over $2,000 today on Chicken City.

01:35:51.000 It is the number 31 most super chatted show in the world in one month.

01:35:56.000 We had a great chicken party before we went live.

01:35:58.000 The babies!

01:35:59.000 The babies got released for the first time.

01:36:02.000 Finally out of the brooders and they're running around and they're all flapping their wings for the first time because they were really cramped in there.

01:36:07.000 And then they had two chicken parties.

01:36:09.000 Two whole parties.

01:36:11.000 It was good fun.

01:36:12.000 This house is actually run by the chickens now.

01:36:14.000 I went downstairs and it was just chickens everywhere.

01:36:17.000 We are averaging at this point probably like $1,300 per day.

01:36:23.000 Like, tax day was really low, nobody was super chatting, because everyone's, like, groaning.

01:36:27.000 But today, with the amount of money that came in, it makes up and bounces out, so it's probably like $1,500.

01:36:31.000 Yo, Chicken City is going to fund so much.

01:36:34.000 I was going to say, you're going to get to a point where Chicken City is making more than TimCast IRL, and you guys are going to start getting, like, Wolf of Wall Street psychotic about it.

01:36:41.000 You're going to be like, Dance, chickens!

01:36:43.000 Dance!

01:36:44.000 No, it's going to be the opposite.

01:36:45.000 The chickens are going to be running the roost.

01:36:47.000 You're going to be like, can we please, can we please be on your show?

01:36:49.000 Are we going to be begging to be on Chicken City?

01:36:52.000 I'm actually willing to bet.

01:36:54.000 But listen, you got to understand, Chicken City is like, it's almost like ASMR with the nature sounds.

01:37:01.000 Dogs and cats love it.

01:37:02.000 So people turn on their TVs and leave and the dogs just watch the chickens.

01:37:06.000 Kids like it.

01:37:08.000 We're launching, we just put up a first cartoon short gag, which is a family friendly humor.

01:37:13.000 It's called Everyday Life Living with a Rooster.

01:37:15.000 And it starts with chickens like, yay!

01:37:16.000 Is this the one that we improv'd with the eggs?

01:37:18.000 And then when the chicken tries talking to the rooster, he just screams and won't shut up.

01:37:21.000 No, don't give away the punchline!

01:37:23.000 That's our brilliant writing!

01:37:24.000 It's my brilliant writing!

01:37:25.000 Well, it's funny, but the gag is that rooster is just always screaming non-stop.

01:37:29.000 It's actually not a gag, too.

01:37:30.000 So, you joke.

01:37:31.000 You joke.

01:37:32.000 Yeah, it's not.

01:37:32.000 It's true.

01:37:33.000 You joke that we're gonna make more money on that.

01:37:35.000 I gotta be honest, I think the market cap for family-friendly content is much bigger than politics.

01:37:39.000 Get the chickens doing toy reviews.

01:37:42.000 Oh my gosh.

01:37:44.000 What if we do unboxing videos of chickens?

01:37:47.000 We take the new chickens.

01:37:48.000 Un-egging videos.

01:37:50.000 We are launching merchandise for them and each of the main chicken cast will have their own shirt.

01:37:56.000 So there will be like a Margaret shirt, a Vanessa shirt, a Katerina shirt, a Carol shirt, a Sarah, a Roberto, and a Roberto Jr.

01:38:03.000 This is just like a spin on women who make cats their children. 1.00

01:38:07.000 Well, we're just making funny stuff.

01:38:08.000 And then there's Margaret has two babies, and they're called the twins, Maggie and Bernie.

01:38:13.000 But because they're identical, we just call them the twins.

01:38:15.000 But then there's two black Star Girls, which are also the twins, but they're black. 1.00

01:38:19.000 So I was like, we can call them the black chicks, or we can call them by their names, Crow and Raven.

01:38:24.000 But we can't call them the twins because the twins are the other ones who are a little older.

01:38:27.000 I would veer away from calling them the black chicks. 0.99

01:38:30.000 By the way, Lauren, I don't like the comparison between cats and chickens on any level.

01:38:34.000 They were young chickens and they were black.

01:38:36.000 Call them the white chickens.

01:38:38.000 Hey, by the way, the chickens are grooming themselves hard right now in Chicken City.

01:38:41.000 Oh, why?

01:38:42.000 Alright, let's read more Zubrigance. 0.56

01:38:43.000 By the way, Lauren, I don't like the comparison between cats and chickens on any level.

01:38:47.000 Someone who owns chickens is not the same as someone who owns cats.

01:38:50.000 It's not even...

01:38:52.000 I suppose chickens are productive.

01:38:54.000 They're productive and cool.

01:38:55.000 So this is just slavery.

01:38:58.000 The more chickens you own, the more likely it is you have a family.

01:39:01.000 As opposed to cats.

01:39:02.000 Right now the chickens are in a protective pen.

01:39:06.000 There is currently a pandemic right now among chickens.

01:39:09.000 A pandemic.

01:39:09.000 And in exchange for safety, we've locked them in a box.

01:39:13.000 They're not allowed to leave.

01:39:14.000 So true.

01:39:15.000 This is a benevolent slavery.

01:39:19.000 And we get their eggs.

01:39:20.000 Lord Carvanite says, Hey y'all, quick question about taxing people less for having more kids.

01:39:25.000 My uncle can't have any kids because he's diabetic.

01:39:27.000 How would he be affected by this tax?

01:39:29.000 Love what y'all are doing.

01:39:30.000 Keep it up and smash that like button. 1.00

01:39:32.000 Smash that like button.

01:39:33.000 I don't think we should tax people who don't have kids.

01:39:35.000 I think we should give tax cuts to people who do have kids.

01:39:37.000 Yeah, this is how it would affect him.

01:39:38.000 He wouldn't be taxed.

01:39:39.000 Aren't they doing that though?

01:39:40.000 The family tax credit?

01:39:41.000 I mean, if he was married and wanted to adopt, then I suppose it would affect him.

01:39:48.000 Yeah, I'm nervous about people having kids just to get the paycheck, though.

01:39:52.000 I've seen, I've heard stories about people that do that just to collect like, you know, what do you call it?

01:39:57.000 Social Security or?

01:39:58.000 Well, I think there's a, and I sort of hear you, but I think there's a difference between directly giving somebody income for having kids and allowing them to keep the money that they already earned when they're having kids.

01:40:10.000 That's a good point, because then it still incentivizes them to work.

01:40:12.000 And it's also, like, who has a higher claim to your money?

01:40:15.000 The children you need to provide for, or the government?

01:40:17.000 Let's read some more.

01:40:18.000 We got, um... Miss Melty Face says, So, before we record the members only, I'll just make sure Lauren pours more pappy.

01:40:27.000 It's propaganda.

01:40:28.000 Also, you know what that is, right?

01:40:30.000 No, it's kind of gross, to be honest.

01:40:31.000 Are you serious?

01:40:32.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:33.000 That's a $1,300 bottle of whiskey.

01:40:35.000 That's what she grabs? 0.99

01:40:36.000 That's what you grab?

01:40:37.000 She goes and gets the most expensive thing on the shelf? 0.59

01:40:39.000 She's pouring it into the cup like it's Jack.

01:40:42.000 Alcohol's rotten.

01:40:44.000 Oh my goodness.

01:40:45.000 I got out of the sauna one night and I felt clean, you know?

01:40:47.000 And I sipped a beer and all it tasted like was rotten food.

01:40:50.000 I was like, what is this?

01:40:51.000 And then a second later, I took a second sip and it tasted like beer.

01:40:54.000 That's actually, I think that's $17.

01:40:54.000 Maybe it's $13.

01:40:56.000 It's the Pappy 12.

01:40:58.000 I am someone who can drink like a $9, $5 bottle of wine, and I'll be like, hmm.

01:41:03.000 No, more importantly, you're someone who can drink a $1,700 bottle of whiskey and not know it.

01:41:08.000 Lauren, there is a bottle of corn whiskey up there that was $10.

01:41:11.000 Try that one.

01:41:12.000 It's all yours.

01:41:13.000 It's really good.

01:41:14.000 We should get that sulfate-free wine.

01:41:15.000 I'll love it.

01:41:15.000 I'm sure.

01:41:16.000 Corn whiskey.

01:41:17.000 I got the corn whiskey because I was like, sooner or later, someone's going to come here who has no idea what any of this is, and they're going to drink the $10 corn whiskey.

01:41:22.000 There's also colloidal gold over there I got a little bit of.

01:41:24.000 You can drink.

01:41:25.000 That's what Ian brought to the... I'm totally into it.

01:41:27.000 I think it helps your neurons become superconductors.

01:41:30.000 Ardwick says, on average, Ian is a solid 10.5.

01:41:32.000 That's a little bit better than... Yeah, that's all I need.

01:41:38.000 Alright.

01:41:38.000 For Shameless, the Irish hobo.

01:41:40.000 So shameless. 0.86

01:41:42.000 RDC says to everyone, how much you want to bet that Fox will take back Wallace?

01:41:47.000 Are you, are you quoting that very expensive... So she, here's the thing.

01:41:50.000 She said she was going to grab a drink.

01:41:51.000 I said grab me a cup.

01:41:52.000 I didn't think she was going to get the most expensive thing off the shelf.

01:41:55.000 As it happens, she did.

01:41:56.000 And I'll be honest, it's been enjoyable.

01:41:58.000 It's nice to sip on.

01:41:58.000 You sound like one of those juice casters from the...

01:42:00.000 Lauren went and grabbed the most expensive whiskey off the shelf.

01:42:04.000 More on the news at night.

01:42:06.000 I wonder how many whiskey aficionados are facepalming seeing the paper cup.

01:42:13.000 It's insane.

01:42:15.000 It's just a woman moment. 0.97

01:42:16.000 I naturally just gravitate towards the most expensive item in a man's house and take it. 1.00

01:42:22.000 It's very pure looking.

01:42:23.000 Look at that.

01:42:24.000 That looks really cool.

01:42:27.000 Strong John.

01:42:28.000 All right.

01:42:29.000 Here's a good one John Morgan Iyer says Tim, please stop saying John you are 33 years old one.

01:42:35.000 It's creepy, too I'm turning 30 32 this year get it, right So I made I make the joke where it's like I know the demographic so I can I can look in the camera and say John You're a 33 year old white man.

01:42:45.000 Oh my gosh, and someone's gonna go.

01:42:47.000 Huh?

01:42:47.000 That was me But I was like, no, I could also say Javier, you're a 27-year-old Mexican guy.

01:42:53.000 John's creeped out, okay?

01:42:55.000 You could say Seamus, you're a 27-year-old... Seamus.

01:42:59.000 Seamus.

01:43:01.000 You are a 27-year-old white male, and you are watching this show right now.

01:43:05.000 I'm actually Irish.

01:43:06.000 You know there's gonna be someone named Seamus who sees that.

01:43:08.000 Who's 27?

01:43:09.000 I don't know.

01:43:10.000 There aren't that many of us.

01:43:11.000 Yeah, but in five years there might be.

01:43:13.000 It's actually not weird, it's excellent.

01:43:15.000 It's so excellent, they just can't go giving it out to everyone willy-nilly.

01:43:19.000 Seamus, you're listening to this video again when you're 40 years old.

01:43:23.000 Oh my gosh.

01:43:26.000 When you're 80, Seamus is gonna be like, I remember the good old days!

01:43:29.000 After I finally left TimCast, it was the best time of my life.

01:43:34.000 Seamus, you need to go back.

01:43:36.000 You need to find the stone and return.

01:43:38.000 Don't listen to them!

01:43:39.000 Don't listen to them!

01:43:41.000 You guys ready for a bad joke?

01:43:43.000 I think it's funny, but I mean, like, dark. 0.81

01:43:45.000 Razgriz says, CNN Plus being cancelled after three weeks is fine because abortions are allowed up to 22 weeks in Georgia.

01:43:51.000 Oh my gosh.

01:43:52.000 I like it.

01:43:53.000 It's my seal of approval as a joke.

01:43:55.000 Well done.

01:43:56.000 Very dark.

01:43:57.000 Dark. 0.73

01:43:58.000 Yikes.

01:43:59.000 All right.

01:44:00.000 All right.

01:44:01.000 3Y, what does it say?

01:44:03.000 Ayleet says, you guys need to watch Network, the 1976 movie.

01:44:07.000 This is CNN's prequel, lol.

01:44:09.000 They used to tell me I was that guy when I was making videos in the early days, 06, 07.

01:44:12.000 Go to the Crossmac channel on YouTube if you want to see it.

01:44:15.000 Man, I was like that guy from Network.

01:44:17.000 I was like so red-pilled, you know?

01:44:19.000 I was out of my mind and I just didn't know how to express it.

01:44:22.000 Rob Matt says, please get Elon Musk on the show.

01:44:26.000 Oh, let me call up Elon right now.

01:44:28.000 I will tweet.

01:44:29.000 I'm going to tweet at Elon right now.

01:44:31.000 I'm going to tweet.

01:44:32.000 I'm doing it.

01:44:33.000 Here we go.

01:44:33.000 I'm on Twitter.

01:44:34.000 I have 1 million followers.

01:44:35.000 I have 1.1 million followers.

01:44:36.000 You know what?

01:44:36.000 To be fair, he's been responding to like random accounts.

01:44:41.000 That's never gonna work, Tim.

01:44:43.000 I'll hit him up.

01:44:44.000 It's on my show.

01:44:46.000 They're distant cousins.

01:44:47.000 Thanks for helping me.

01:44:48.000 It would be like super rad.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, this is good because we can talk about freeing Twitter's code.

01:44:57.000 There we go.

01:44:58.000 I have officially tweeted that out.

01:44:59.000 I want to ask him about the birth rates.

01:45:01.000 Let's go.

01:45:02.000 Let's see.

01:45:03.000 There we go.

01:45:04.000 Now Pete, there's a ton of like weird lefties on Twitter who are going to see that and have no idea what the context is.

01:45:09.000 So, um, Hopitarian on Twitter has tweeted at me to like tweet random nonsense to see what happens.

01:45:14.000 He's like, Tim should tweet the and see what happens.

01:45:16.000 And I do.

01:45:17.000 And like, people are like, I hate you.

01:45:19.000 And then he was like, Tim should tweet cake and see what happens.

01:45:22.000 And then people were like, pie.

01:45:23.000 No, pie is not no cake.

01:45:26.000 Twitter.

01:45:27.000 Where you go to get emotionally destroyed.

01:45:29.000 That's right.

01:45:29.000 It's just a hell loop.

01:45:31.000 Anyone who stays on that site.

01:45:33.000 Pearson10 says, My kids thought the Chicken City cartoon was hilarious.

01:45:37.000 However, my three-year-old did run around pretending to be the rooster all evening after watching it.

01:45:42.000 I'm so sorry.

01:45:43.000 I take that as a compliment.

01:45:45.000 That's great.

01:45:47.000 All right.

01:45:48.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:45:52.000 Get Rich says, Hey Tim, love what you were doing with Timcast.

01:45:54.000 Very inspirational.

01:45:55.000 Lauren, did you and Luke have a thing back in the day or Mandela effect?

01:45:58.000 Thanks.

01:46:01.000 I didn't screen that.

01:46:02.000 I just grabbed one that said we're doing good with Timcast.

01:46:05.000 So the rest of it, I didn't actually read.

01:46:06.000 Yeah, we dated briefly.

01:46:10.000 Both awesome people.

01:46:15.000 It's like, it just goes quiet.

01:46:17.000 Do you want to talk about your personal life?

01:46:19.000 I was actually going to take the opportunity to make fun of Luke because I like making fun of Luke, but I was like, wait, no, this might be.

01:46:25.000 Yeah.

01:46:25.000 There's a thing.

01:46:26.000 Evidence that we don't screen super chat.

01:46:28.000 Gene Wilder made a pretty good point about being talking about your personal life and your private life and they're different.

01:46:33.000 And I like that.

01:46:35.000 Private is like names and dates and, you know, addresses and stuff.

01:46:39.000 Whereas personal is like how you feel about what happened to you in your past and things like that.

01:46:42.000 Roberto Lara says Stelter was born in 1985.

01:46:44.000 Ian, that was an awesome interview with Michael Malice.

01:46:47.000 Drugs and God.

01:46:48.000 I think Ian needs a show called In Ian's Mind or called Words with Ian.

01:46:53.000 Thank you so much.

01:46:54.000 The chat just exploded.

01:46:55.000 People are like, LOLOL.

01:46:57.000 It's Michael Malice episode 203.

01:46:59.000 You're welcome.

01:47:01.000 All right.

01:47:03.000 Patriot American says, hey Tim, you planning on working with The Daily Wire on some of their shows?

01:47:08.000 Would it be possible to invest in some kind of video game division?

01:47:11.000 I'd call it TimCast Games.

01:47:13.000 There have been a variety of discussions with the Daily Wire on a lot of the things they're working on.

01:47:17.000 It's all I can really say.

01:47:19.000 Obviously, if we're over there, what we do with the Daily Wire is very much aligned in terms of like, you know, we want to change culture.

01:47:26.000 They're different from us in a lot of ways, but we like them.

01:47:29.000 They're fun people.

01:47:30.000 And we've talked about shows, movies, books, and You know, we'll see.

01:47:38.000 We're crazy over here.

01:47:39.000 I don't think The Daily Wire would ever do something like Chicken City.

01:47:42.000 And that's why we're different.

01:47:44.000 I think we're much more... I don't know, is it younger?

01:47:48.000 I don't know if younger is the right word.

01:47:50.000 I'm probably older than all of them, except for Clayton.

01:47:52.000 Than a lot of them.

01:47:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:54.000 But I suppose if you look at the way we approach things, it's from a very different perspective or operation, but we agree on so much about culture.

01:48:01.000 The Daily Wire is never going to set up a chicken coop and have chicken parties, right?

01:48:06.000 You know, but they're making movies, so they're, they're, they're taking the institutional hill and I'm glad they are.

01:48:11.000 Oh, me and Jeremy are about the same age.

01:48:12.000 Cool.

01:48:12.000 He's a month, a couple months older than me.

01:48:14.000 Oh, there you go.

01:48:14.000 I love that guy.

01:48:15.000 So I, I certainly think, you know, we'll, we'll see how things play out.

01:48:18.000 We will.

01:48:20.000 But, uh, I'm a big fan of the Daily Wire guys.

01:48:22.000 Insane says, fan of the show.

01:48:24.000 I have a suggestion for a guest, David Wood from Act 7 Apologetics.

01:48:28.000 He get, he got an incredible testimony and I'd like for y'all to talk about philosophy and religion with David.

01:48:33.000 Love you, Ian.

01:48:34.000 Love you too, dog.

01:48:36.000 Yeah, so, you know, one of the things I thought about was like, should we have someone actually just pull, like, some of the best superchats?

01:48:43.000 We talked about this a while ago.

01:48:44.000 I was like, while we're doing the show, we should have someone actually take good superchats and get us ready for the best ones.

01:48:50.000 And then I was worried that whoever did that would avoid spicier ones. 1.00

01:48:53.000 Because obviously, I'll be reading one, I'll get halfway through and go, I'm not reading the rest of that.

01:48:58.000 And sometimes I'll walk into traps like Speechless by Michael Knowles and things like that, and that's funny.

01:49:03.000 So I didn't want to get rid of that.

01:49:04.000 I wanted, you know, just to All right, let's grab some more.

01:49:09.000 We got too many Super Chats today.

01:49:11.000 By the way, I'm familiar with Act 17 Apologetics.

01:49:13.000 I haven't seen too much of their stuff, so I wanted to refresh myself.

01:49:16.000 So I went to their YouTube channel, and they currently have 666,000 subscribers.

01:49:20.000 So y'all gotta subscribe.

01:49:22.000 Y'all gotta change that ratio.

01:49:24.000 What's the history of that 666 number?

01:49:26.000 Is it irresponsible for me to tell people to subscribe to your channel I haven't seen in a while because I think it's the wrong number?

01:49:30.000 Steven Bordelmay says marriage is a religious custom that only became I don't know what the word he was going to use bastardized when the state adopted it for the purpose of stealing more money from its civilians.

01:49:42.000 I think the issue is that in this country marriage is quite literally an Abrahamic institution rooted in the fact that this country was founded by a bunch of Christians and it morphed into a state institution but is still attached to the church and that creates a very serious problem in this country if you're going to argue the separation of church and state well then I don't know what you're doing.

01:50:03.000 That was always my question when the Prop 8 thing was happening.

01:50:07.000 Because they had that musical where Jack Black is like, your nation is built on separation

01:50:12.000 of church and state.

01:50:13.000 And I was like, I mean, if that's true, what power does the state have to regulate an Abrahamic 0.98

01:50:17.000 institution?

01:50:18.000 But is it though?

01:50:19.000 Is it?

01:50:21.000 Is it really separated?

01:50:22.000 Yeah.

01:50:23.000 No, it's not.

01:50:23.000 I think you're completely right.

01:50:25.000 And so therein lies the big issue where I was like, how is the state going to mandate churches do a thing?

01:50:31.000 You know?

01:50:31.000 I don't know.

01:50:32.000 Scientology's a church. 0.95

01:50:34.000 I think the problem was the civil unions that they were talking about back with the Obama days in 08 didn't offer identical rights between gay couples and traditionally married couples.

01:50:46.000 And then I was like, you can't do that.

01:50:47.000 And that was, I think that was the argument they used to actually get gay marriage, because it was equal rights.

01:50:52.000 But I was like, I don't know how you, you have a, like, we have an institutionalized religious component with marriage.

01:50:59.000 Well there is, part of it is- Well did civil unions not have the same rights as a traditional marriage?

01:51:03.000 At the time, the argument, because Obama said he was opposed to gay marriage, and he said he was in favor of civil unions.

01:51:11.000 So did Hillary. 0.93

01:51:12.000 Right.

01:51:12.000 The activist group said that there were certain rights that were not afforded civil unions as opposed to marriage, and that's why they wanted marriage.

01:51:19.000 And I just said, well then get those rights to civil unions and are we happy?

01:51:22.000 And they were like, no, we want the institution.

01:51:24.000 And I was like, Yeah, that will they want the word and this is the thing I mean marriage is so there are there are sacramental marriages but also people who marriage predates the Marriage, I mean it goes all the way back to Adam and Eve And so I believe it was in Christians believe it was created by God, but we believe in a concept of natural marriage It's not that it's specifically in all instances something people do as a matter of their religious faith It's just that it has a definition and that definition is that it's a union between man and woman That's what's one of the instrumental parts of what it means

01:51:55.000 Cara May says, quote of the night by yours truly Lauren, quote, have we really reached equality if people can't marry their dogs?

01:52:03.000 Effing gold.

01:52:04.000 Did you say that?

01:52:05.000 I think I did.

01:52:06.000 The pappies is hittin'.

01:52:09.000 I've said some wild things tonight.

01:52:11.000 We have fireball downstairs.

01:52:13.000 You know, you don't gotta... Uh-oh.

01:52:15.000 You know, no one's cracked open that corn whiskey.

01:52:17.000 I just found out Waffle House is open 24-7 here, so I'm going there after this.

01:52:22.000 There is a Waffle House very close by.

01:52:23.000 Seamus didn't crack the corn whiskey.

01:52:25.000 Seamus, do you want to drink the corn whiskey at Waffle House with me after this?

01:52:28.000 Are you out of your mind?

01:52:30.000 Are you out of your mind?

01:52:31.000 Rob Matt says, wasn't there incest in the Adam and Eve story?

01:52:35.000 So much.

01:52:36.000 I don't think so.

01:52:37.000 Well, so the argument is that they had, what, two kids?

01:52:40.000 Cain and Abel?

01:52:40.000 Cain, Abel, and I think Seth is also mentioned.

01:52:44.000 I don't know if that's an exhaustive list, but yeah.

01:52:45.000 They had no daughters?

01:52:47.000 That's not a question I can answer.

01:52:48.000 I'm not sure.

01:52:49.000 I need to double check.

01:52:49.000 It's been a while since I've looked at Genesis.

01:52:51.000 I believe Cain, Abel, and Seth are the ones that are mentioned.

01:52:53.000 Those are dudes though, right?

01:52:54.000 Yes, I believe so.

01:52:56.000 So, like, did they No, I'm not.

01:52:57.000 I don't know the answer to that question.

01:52:58.000 I don't know.

01:53:00.000 I don't have an answer.

01:53:00.000 There's no mention of any other women though.

01:53:03.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

01:53:03.000 I don't have an answer.

01:53:04.000 I don't know what the significance of that is.

01:53:05.000 I don't, it's not necessarily an exhaustive list as far as I understand of every, of all the people that they have.

01:53:10.000 Yeah.

01:53:11.000 Yeah.

01:53:11.000 Or that, well, no.

01:53:12.000 So we believe that Adam and Eve are the primordial, like they're the first human ancestors, that all human life goes back to the first two people.

01:53:19.000 I'm not sure.

01:53:20.000 Two people isn't enough to create a population.

01:53:22.000 That's the issue.

01:53:23.000 No, I hear what you're saying.

01:53:24.000 I don't have an answer.

01:53:25.000 I don't know.

01:53:25.000 It's an interesting question.

01:53:26.000 It says that the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve, Abraham marrying his half-sister, Sarah, Lot and his daughters, Moses' father, Amram, who married his aunt, Joseph.

01:53:35.000 Well, sure.

01:53:36.000 And also be careful too, because I'm sure that's, there's a list of a number of instances here, but just because the Bible is describing something doesn't necessarily mean it's condoning it.

01:53:45.000 So you've got to be careful.

01:53:46.000 Oh yeah.

01:53:46.000 It's just explaining that it happened.

01:53:47.000 I mean, that was out of necessity.

01:53:48.000 There were like 60 of them.

01:53:49.000 What are they going to do?

01:53:50.000 You know, you got to propagate the species.

01:53:53.000 All right.

01:53:54.000 What is this?

01:53:58.000 Democratic Detox says Elon SpaceX will help you far-right news people make Trump's face in the moon.

01:54:03.000 Oh, well, thank you.

01:54:05.000 We'll consider it.

01:54:06.000 Murph Try says, Tim, nuking the moon would lead to a Supreme Court case on citizens' rights to nukes under 2A.

01:54:12.000 Let's see if they agree with you.

01:54:14.000 Are you familiar with the Second Amendment, Lauren?

01:54:16.000 Am I familiar with the Second Amendment?

01:54:17.000 Are you?

01:54:18.000 Have you ever heard of it?

01:54:19.000 No, you know, that's... I say people have a right to own nuclear weapons.

01:54:24.000 Is that the Second Amendment?

01:54:26.000 Yeah.

01:54:26.000 The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:54:29.000 So true.

01:54:29.000 Does it say except nuclear arms?

01:54:30.000 Nope.

01:54:31.000 The right to bear arms.

01:54:32.000 So true.

01:54:33.000 Bear arms.

01:54:34.000 So true.

01:54:35.000 This is why Tim wants to nuke the moon.

01:54:36.000 Bear arms.

01:54:38.000 Bear arms.

01:54:39.000 If I cannot surgically have bear's arms put onto mine...

01:54:44.000 I already have bear arms.

01:54:46.000 See, I roll my sleeves up.

01:54:47.000 And that is my right.

01:54:49.000 Tim likes to bring people into this.

01:54:50.000 It's because, from what I can gather, is that his belief is that technically, legally, we do still have the right.

01:54:55.000 And if they want to take that away or change that, they need to amend the Constitution.

01:54:58.000 So what would happen if Tim Kast tried to buy a nuke?

01:55:03.000 I don't know, but I wonder if we got, like, the highest degree of licensing for an FFL.

01:55:08.000 You know, what's the limit?

01:55:10.000 Cultural enforcement.

01:55:11.000 That's when cultural enforcement takes hold if you start doing stuff like that.

01:55:14.000 Like, well, Halliburton's got permits.

01:55:16.000 What grants them the right to have these crazy weapons?

01:55:18.000 Someone was selling a missile silo in, like, Kansas for 300k recently.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, people live in those.

01:55:24.000 Yeah, it's, like, amazing.

01:55:25.000 You should buy one and have a Timcast missile.

01:55:27.000 And whenever someone doesn't agree to go on the show, you can be like, Where in the country am I allowed to have surface-to-air missiles?

01:55:34.000 Where?

01:55:35.000 I don't know.

01:55:35.000 So the issue is, at some point we culturally decided that people had no right to bear arms.

01:55:41.000 And I mean that literally.

01:55:42.000 We used to have privateers with cannons.

01:55:44.000 And all of a sudden now you can't own a destroyer. 0.97

01:55:47.000 Disgusting.

01:55:48.000 I saw someone drifting a tank on Twitter yesterday and it made me very sad to think I will never drift a tank unless I'm in an active war zone.

01:55:54.000 There's a guy over here who, not that far away, owns a tank and he invited us out.

01:55:58.000 Is it like a working, functional tank?

01:56:00.000 Yeah, it is.

01:56:00.000 So I could drift a tank is what you're telling me.

01:56:02.000 You can buy a tank if you want.

01:56:05.000 Most women, girls I'm told, like ponies and grow up- Hey babe, are you watching this?

01:56:09.000 I want a tank for my birthday.

01:56:12.000 I would like a tank.

01:56:15.000 Jay Stewart says, Discworld, definitely a cultural cornerstone.

01:56:18.000 Also, death has bony knees.

01:56:21.000 I didn't realize that, but I take your word for it.

01:56:24.000 All right.

01:56:26.000 I don't know if I should read that one.

01:56:29.000 Let's see.

01:56:32.000 Nona says, can you try to get Tim Keller on before he dies to counterbalance your resident papist?

01:56:38.000 Is that how you say it?

01:56:39.000 Papist.

01:56:39.000 Papist, yeah.

01:56:41.000 Who's Tim Keller?

01:56:42.000 I don't know.

01:56:42.000 I'm not sure.

01:56:44.000 All right.

01:56:46.000 There was something about a turtle that was really funny, but I think I lost that one.

01:56:51.000 Jay Dox says, 11 of 12 apostles were tortured, burned, crucified, beheaded, stoned, drawn and quartered, all died for what they knew was true and not for what they believed.

01:57:03.000 Interesting.

01:57:03.000 Yeah.

01:57:04.000 I think governments are totally fine killing their own citizens to get their way sometimes.

01:57:09.000 Yeah, but the point is, why would someone voluntarily die for a story that they knew not to be true?

01:57:14.000 Well, I don't know if they voluntarily died.

01:57:16.000 Well, no, but it's a question of recanting.

01:57:19.000 So if you're martyred, it's because you refuse to give up your faith.

01:57:24.000 The person that told me that they didn't recant is the government.

01:57:28.000 Elwood Blues, quote, I want to ask him about the birth rates.

01:57:31.000 Lauren, I have never laughed so hard.

01:57:34.000 When did I say that?

01:57:35.000 Were you talking about Jesus?

01:57:37.000 Did I say that?

01:57:38.000 About Jesus?

01:57:38.000 What was the quote?

01:57:39.000 I don't even remember what I said on this show.

01:57:42.000 Someone mentioned I should get a sword.

01:57:43.000 I do think I need a sword.

01:57:46.000 Is there like a breathalyzer?

01:57:47.000 I don't think you need a sword right now.

01:57:50.000 The Zelda, the master sword.

01:57:52.000 I like the really sharp one.

01:57:53.000 No, I don't think you can.

01:57:55.000 No, I literally don't think you can.

01:57:56.000 Oh yeah, rules and regulations for streaming live.

01:57:59.000 But the Zelda one is a toy.

01:58:02.000 A nice blunt and beautiful blade.

01:58:05.000 I have meteorite swords behind me.

01:58:07.000 They're forged from meteorite.

01:58:08.000 They're very expensive.

01:58:10.000 Serious question though.

01:58:11.000 Link or Zelda?

01:58:13.000 What do you mean?

01:58:14.000 If you had to pick one.

01:58:15.000 What do you mean, like, pick one for what?

01:58:17.000 To play us?

01:58:19.000 Oh, who's your favorite?

01:58:20.000 Smash Brothers?

01:58:20.000 Zelda, if we're talking about melee where she can transform to Sheik, because Sheik is good.

01:58:25.000 Absolutely.

01:58:25.000 No, Meta Knight is absolutely the most OP.

01:58:28.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:58:29.000 But Meta Knight's not in melee, so... I gotta go with Link on this one, just in general.

01:58:33.000 That is a maul sword from The Legend of Zelda.

01:58:39.000 I don't know what the sword rules are, but the only stuff we display are prop stuff.

01:58:43.000 So you can't display a real gun behind you?

01:58:47.000 Yeah, you can't.

01:58:48.000 Really?

01:58:49.000 Well, I think you might be able to, but the rules are that display of firearms has to be in an approved setting, and you can't be manipulating or something, but I'm not entirely sure.

01:58:59.000 So why do I have a toy sword when Seamus gets two steak knives?

01:59:04.000 Because I'm a trustworthy individual who has proven himself to expertly handle those steak knives.

01:59:09.000 Those steak knives were for peeling blood oranges.

01:59:12.000 Who do you think would win?

01:59:13.000 Seamus with two steak knives or me with the master sword?

01:59:15.000 It's not even a question I would win.

01:59:16.000 It's not even a question.

01:59:17.000 It's not even close to being a question.

01:59:20.000 Alright, let's read some more Super Chats while we still can, huh?

01:59:22.000 I don't need one steak knife.

01:59:24.000 I wanted to see people talking about Lauren being drunk.

01:59:26.000 I'm not, I've had one glass cup.

01:59:29.000 She's drunk.

01:59:29.000 How was it by the way on a scale of 1 to 10?

01:59:31.000 AoN says, for my girl Lauren and ShimCast's liquor bill, drink that stuff, yo. 1.00

01:59:35.000 Oh man.

01:59:37.000 Yeah.

01:59:38.000 See, you see, you see how expensive it is hosting Lauren Southern. 0.98

01:59:42.000 Oh man.

01:59:42.000 She, she, she called before and she was like, I only drink Pepe.

01:59:45.000 It's an investment.

01:59:49.000 Kevin Nielsen says, Twitter comments to PolitiFact denying Biden shaking hands with no one is the funniest thing I've read in a minute.

01:59:55.000 It was amazing.

01:59:57.000 PolitiFact has a tweet that says, you may have seen Joe Biden shake hands with thin air, period.

02:00:03.000 It never happened, period.

02:00:05.000 And then I'm just like, it is bold of them to say that you saw something, but it never happened.

02:00:11.000 Ian.

02:00:12.000 Ian.

02:00:12.000 There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

02:00:14.000 I am not holding up a pen.

02:00:16.000 You may have seen me hold up a pen.

02:00:17.000 It never happened.

02:00:18.000 Or hey, I've got a good one.

02:00:19.000 I am not linking to her address.

02:00:22.000 Right, right.

02:00:22.000 That's very good too.

02:00:23.000 Same idea.

02:00:25.000 All right, all right.

02:00:26.000 Let's see if we can, um... Wait, actually, I want to quickly correct something.

02:00:30.000 You said it was expensive to get me on this show.

02:00:32.000 Do you know how much my flight cost here?

02:00:33.000 How much was it?

02:00:36.000 $34.

02:00:36.000 What?

02:00:36.000 $34.

02:00:36.000 It was still too much.

02:00:38.000 All right.

02:00:38.000 And not a single person.

02:00:40.000 No, there was one person on my flight wearing a mask.

02:00:42.000 Oh yeah, that's awesome.

02:00:43.000 Speaking of masks, my new cartoon, watch it.

02:00:46.000 My friends, if you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and if you want to see Lauren Southern wielding a $15,000 sword forged from meteorite, go to TimCast.com and become a member.

02:01:00.000 I think you wielded the sword last time too.

02:01:02.000 I did.

02:01:03.000 Actually, it's going to be a video of Seamus and I fighting to the death with the steak knives and the sword.

02:01:07.000 No, that's not allowed.

02:01:08.000 I would never voluntarily partake in something like that.

02:01:10.000 Lauren will be allowed to wield the $15,000 meteorite sword at TimCast.com for the member segment, so sign up if you want to check out that segment.

02:01:17.000 You can follow the show at TimCast.rl.

02:01:19.000 You can follow me at TimCast.

02:01:20.000 Lauren, what do you want to shout out?

02:01:21.000 Oh yeah, go follow me at Lauren underscore Southern on Twitter.

02:01:26.000 Lauren Southern on the YouTubes.

02:01:28.000 Yeah, that one.

02:01:31.000 My name is Seamus Coghlan, which is super easy to spell.

02:01:34.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

02:01:36.000 Go check that out.

02:01:37.000 We just released a cartoon today about the mask mandates being repealed for airlines.

02:01:42.000 I think you guys are really going to like it.

02:01:43.000 It's something like 20,000 views ahead of our most viewed video of the last 10 uploads, so the audience is really loving it.

02:01:51.000 I think you guys are gonna like it as well.

02:01:53.000 One of these days, I'm going to hold a crystal ball up to the sky and light a fire from a distance with it with the sunlight and prove to you that throwing fireballs is real.

02:02:01.000 So we can reinterpret what like magic really is and stuff like that.

02:02:04.000 See you later.

02:02:06.000 Oh, like a wizard staff.

02:02:07.000 Yeah, I wonder if back in the day is like had a staff with a crystal and he held it up and started a fire and they're like, Whoa, I took a really long he'd be like, I will attack you with my fire spell.

02:02:15.000 Five minutes later.

02:02:18.000 Hold still for 20 more minutes.

02:02:20.000 They always have their groups of them.

02:02:21.000 They like 15 guys all like aiming it at the same spot or something.

02:02:25.000 The wizards.

02:02:26.000 Anyway, what Ian said was way more.

02:02:28.000 Okay.

02:02:29.000 Lauren has her sword all up in my shot. 1.00

02:02:31.000 I appreciate it.

02:02:32.000 Oh, is it over your skin?

02:02:35.000 Which is hilarious.

02:02:36.000 It's going to be great after show.

02:02:37.000 Thank you, Ian, for completely throwing me off.

02:02:39.000 I would now like to hold up a crystal and set something on fire.

02:02:42.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter at Minds.com at Sour Patchlets, Instagram at Real Sour Patchlets and Sour Patchlets.me.

02:02:49.000 All right, everybody, the tweet I sent to Elon has already 607 retweets.

02:02:54.000 Retweet! 0.98

02:02:55.000 So Elon, man, I'm a huge fan.

02:02:56.000 Would love to have him on the show.

02:02:57.000 So everybody, we will see you all over at TimCast.com and you will see Lauren Southern wielding an expensive sword made from meteorites.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 21, 2022

Timcast IRL - Trump ROASTS CNN+ For FAILING, Network FAILS In Less Than A Month w-Lauren Southern

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