Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Children CHEER As DeSantis STRIPS Disney Of Privileges w-Richie & Tina McGinniss

00:00:03.000 Ron DeSantis has officially signed the, I guess, what do you call it?

00:00:09.000 The bill stripping Disney of its special privileges.

00:00:12.000 And the funny thing about this is that he was surrounded by children who were all cheering and clapping.

00:00:17.000 And I just find that very, very funny.

00:00:19.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:00:21.000 We'll talk about the conflict.

00:00:22.000 I think the craziest story today, actually, was that Marjorie Taylor Greene was testifying in an administrative trial To determine whether or not she should be disqualified from re-election, which just says to me, yo, this is a sign of the collapse of the Republic. 0.83

00:00:40.000 Robbie Starbuck was booted off the primary because the Republican GOP played some BS.

00:00:48.000 Now you've got them trying to disqualify, the establishment mind you, it's not just Democrats, it's Republicans as well, trying to disqualify People like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn.

00:00:57.000 So here we go.

00:00:58.000 These people know they're losing.

00:00:59.000 The elite know that they're struggling to maintain a grip on this country.

00:01:03.000 Populism is rising up, be it left or right.

00:01:05.000 And now they're resorting to dirty tricks to get their way.

00:01:08.000 You know, it just sounds to me like everything is falling apart.

00:01:11.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:13.000 We have this viral story going around about Mike Pence on January 6th.

00:01:17.000 It's the weirdest thing.

00:01:17.000 It's like the left is accusing Mike Pence of being in on a coup because he refused to get into a car.

00:01:24.000 So I don't know why the story is for some reason getting prominence now, because the story is actually very old, but we'll talk about it either way.

00:01:30.000 And then some guy tried lighting himself on fire in front of the Supreme Court.

00:01:33.000 We'll talk about that too.

00:01:35.000 Joining us on this wonderful and beautiful Friday is Tina McGuinness and her progeny, Richard, who wants to introduce themselves first.

00:01:44.000 Mom's first, obviously.

00:01:46.000 I am Richard's mom.

00:01:48.000 Can you pull your mic up a little bit?

00:01:49.000 Yeah.

00:01:50.000 I am Richie McGinnis's mom.

00:01:54.000 So what do you do?

00:01:56.000 I am a mom.

00:01:59.000 Very important role.

00:02:00.000 All right.

00:02:01.000 A working mother though.

00:02:02.000 All mothers are working. 1.00

00:02:04.000 Let's not get into that.

00:02:06.000 This is one of my major pet peeves about that expression.

00:02:11.000 Working mother.

00:02:13.000 All mothers work. 1.00

00:02:14.000 Yeah, but my mom worked harder than others. 1.00

00:02:16.000 That's not true.

00:02:18.000 Well, with three boys, you do work pretty hard.

00:02:20.000 That's for sure.

00:02:21.000 So who is this Richard sitting over here?

00:02:23.000 Richie McGinnis.

00:02:25.000 She named me Richard, but I went with Richie because my uncle's Richard.

00:02:29.000 And I'm running for mayor of Chicken City.

00:02:32.000 That's right.

00:02:32.000 Well, actually sheriff.

00:02:33.000 Well, sheriff.

00:02:34.000 And then it's a hostile takeover.

00:02:35.000 OK.

00:02:36.000 Don't you just walk in and seize it?

00:02:38.000 Once I get a hold of the arm.

00:02:39.000 So this is it.

00:02:40.000 Our guest tonight is quite literally some guy who wants to be in my chicken coop and his mom.

00:02:44.000 Exactly.

00:02:45.000 We're going to have a great talk about chickens and elections.

00:02:50.000 I like that you talk about work because work scientifically is like an expression of energy.

00:02:56.000 You can measure it in joules and so like right now we're working, if you're thinking you're producing work, so this is just another kind of work.

00:03:03.000 Whether it's a job or not that you get paid for is kind of irrelevant at that point.

00:03:06.000 Correct.

00:03:07.000 I rolled a 30, you guys.

00:03:08.000 Oh, thank you.

00:03:09.000 Happy Friday.

00:03:10.000 Let's get rocking.

00:03:11.000 And that's Ian.

00:03:11.000 And Richie, of course, is a, I guess, a journalist.

00:03:15.000 He's been on the ground for all of these major moments of unrest, risking his life in some instances to save lives.

00:03:22.000 So Richie's got tremendous experience dealing with conflict, crisis and the political arena.

00:03:26.000 Much to the anger of my mom. 1.00

00:03:28.000 Yeah.

00:03:29.000 Well, that's that's why we thought it was important to have your mom on so we can all collectively scold you for this dangerous line of work. 1.00

00:03:34.000 Yes.

00:03:35.000 Good thing I didn't know about much of it until it had already happened.

00:03:40.000 And her birthday is the insurrection.

00:03:42.000 Oh, that's right!

00:03:44.000 January 6th.

00:03:44.000 Happy birthday, mom!

00:03:46.000 I think something happened.

00:03:47.000 No, he changed the lyrics to the song.

00:03:50.000 It's now happy insurrection.

00:03:52.000 Oh, man.

00:03:54.000 What a good son.

00:03:55.000 Yeah, for her big 70th birthday this year.

00:03:58.000 Nice one.

00:03:59.000 I am also here in the corner.

00:04:00.000 I really enjoyed talking to Tina before the show and I'm delighted to get more into it.

00:04:04.000 It reminded me a little bit of talking to Ricardo Lamas's dad where we get into some of the history and get some of the background that we really lack kind of as Millennials.

00:04:11.000 So I'm excited for tonight.

00:04:13.000 It's gonna be good.

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00:04:16.000 There is, I'm sorry.

00:04:18.000 It's on purpose.

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00:05:16.000 Let's read this first story and talk about weird whatever with Florida.

00:05:20.000 The Daily Mail reports Florida's Governor Ron DeSantis is applauded by children as he officially strips Disney of its 55-year-old special tax and land privileges after Biden slammed ugly GOP for going after Mickey.

00:05:34.000 I kind of feel like this country is pretty much falling apart.

00:05:39.000 I will say it's funny that they bring in a bunch of kids.

00:05:42.000 They have a photo of this.

00:05:43.000 They had a photo.

00:05:43.000 Here we go.

00:05:44.000 Look at this.

00:05:44.000 They have like, you know, CRT is in a circle with a line through it.

00:05:48.000 Is there a word for that?

00:05:49.000 Anti-CRT?

00:05:50.000 No, when they put a circle with a line through it, crossing something out or whatever.

00:05:54.000 But they brought a bunch of kids and they're all clapping and cheering.

00:05:57.000 I think that's funny.

00:05:58.000 I like what he's doing though.

00:05:59.000 I like what Ron DeSantis is doing.

00:06:01.000 And we can see that Disney continues to drop in its stock prices.

00:06:05.000 So, I'll just start off by saying this.

00:06:08.000 There was a protest in Disneyland that I went to.

00:06:11.000 Oh no, no, that was Disney World.

00:06:13.000 That's the one in Florida.

00:06:14.000 Disney World's in Florida?

00:06:15.000 World, yeah.

00:06:15.000 The other one's in Anaheim, California.

00:06:16.000 Okay, so I was at Disneyland.

00:06:18.000 There was a protest for Black Lives Matter.

00:06:21.000 I don't think it was necessarily Black Lives Matter, but it was the same issues.

00:06:24.000 And the police did everything in their power To protect Disney.

00:06:28.000 And they were on horseback with bokken. 1.00

00:06:30.000 You know bokken are? 1.00

00:06:31.000 A wooden sword?

00:06:32.000 Yeah, wooden swords.

00:06:33.000 And it was like the weirdest thing.

00:06:35.000 But what people noticed was that they weren't protecting any of the homes.

00:06:38.000 They were protecting, they were blocking off the roads to Disney.

00:06:42.000 And these were guys who were like wearing full, like camo, decked out military gear, riding on the side of SUVs with long guns.

00:06:50.000 It was just the craziest thing.

00:06:52.000 Isn't it weird, though, how the Democrats are now on the side of the big corporate entity, Disney?

00:06:58.000 So, yes, it is.

00:07:00.000 Are they or are they just against the Santas?

00:07:02.000 I can't get a read on this.

00:07:02.000 No, they're an amorphous blob.

00:07:06.000 They're not for or against anything.

00:07:09.000 They just hate you.

00:07:11.000 Right?

00:07:11.000 So it's like, jeez, guys, take it easy.

00:07:13.000 Well, no, but they do.

00:07:14.000 I mean, if there's something that I don't know, civil libertarians and conservatives are interested in, they're just gonna be like, well, we hate that.

00:07:21.000 And so, if that means they're gonna side with tax cuts for massive multinational corporations, apparently that's what's happening.

00:07:27.000 But, you know, this is why I think it's great to have you here, Tina, because I'm curious.

00:07:32.000 With everything we've been seeing over the past several years, with the rioting, with the political partisanship, with now children clapping and cheering for this stuff, with critical race theory in schools, I'm wondering if you have ever seen it this bad.

00:07:45.000 No, I mean I haven't.

00:07:48.000 We were talking earlier about my sort of coming of age, which was, I was in college in 1969 as a freshman in Washington.

00:08:00.000 At Georgetown, and it was, you know, the height of the Vietnam War.

00:08:04.000 It was civil rights.

00:08:06.000 It was women's rights. 1.00

00:08:08.000 And I don't know if I was more naive, but I was certainly way more clear about my world.

00:08:16.000 than I am now, and I'm 70.

00:08:19.000 Shouldn't I be more clear about my world now with age and theoretically wisdom?

00:08:27.000 I don't know what that means.

00:08:30.000 You mean by clear, like you don't know what's going on?

00:08:34.000 I don't know where, I don't know how to think about a lot of things anymore,

00:08:38.000 because I don't, I'm very mistrustful of pretty much everything I hear.

00:08:44.000 And we were talking earlier about, just about newscasters in my day,

00:08:51.000 and it was Walter Cronkite and I'm going to go to the next slide.

00:08:56.000 Chet Huntley and David Brinkley and Edward R. Murrow and you respected those men and you didn't really know much about them except the pitch of their voice when you knew when something was serious you know if I'm sure you've all seen the clip of Walter Cronkite taking his glasses off when he announced JFK had been assassinated it was a I don't know things were it's almost like Things were serious then, and everything's made to be serious now.

00:09:29.000 I don't know if that's the right way to put it, but I don't know if things are better or worse.

00:09:37.000 We were talking, Lydia and I earlier, about my mother saying, you know, the world has always been bad.

00:09:45.000 I wonder, though, how do you know you can trust those men, like Walter Cronkite?

00:09:49.000 Then?

00:09:49.000 Yeah, they smoked cigarettes.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:09:53.000 So did my father.

00:09:57.000 You didn't think about it.

00:09:59.000 There wasn't a question of trust.

00:10:01.000 There were three networks.

00:10:03.000 There were very many fewer platforms for information.

00:10:08.000 And you didn't hear about as many things at the same time.

00:10:14.000 And it was, I don't know, it was just easier.

00:10:16.000 It's possible they were lying.

00:10:18.000 Well, that's also possible.

00:10:20.000 Gulf of Tonkin.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, Gulf of Tonkin, exactly.

00:10:22.000 Well, there was a lot of that.

00:10:23.000 I mean, they have picked the CIA and, you know, there was always a subterranean text that you, well, you didn't question it, I think is also.

00:10:35.000 We also talked about in the past how at that time the young people were part of the counterculture, which was counterculture.

00:10:42.000 And now, you know, with a lot of the protests that have happened over the last two years, you have, like, corporations on board with those and, like, using it to prove that they're virtuous.

00:10:51.000 Oh, I went to a skate park and I saw Black Lives Matter tagged.

00:10:57.000 And then I just started laughing.

00:10:58.000 And there were, like, kids hanging out.

00:10:59.000 And I was like, which one of you kids tagged the corporate slogan on the skate ramp?

00:11:05.000 But they don't care.

00:11:06.000 You know, they're going to look at me and they'll be like, you're an old man.

00:11:08.000 You don't get it.

00:11:09.000 And I'll be like, Yeah, when I was your age, we rebelled against authority, you know?

00:11:14.000 We tried to find our own way. 0.98

00:11:15.000 But you guys are just stooges. 0.56

00:11:17.000 They're just like, well, Walmart told me to write it, so I did. 0.96

00:11:20.000 It's like, alright, good for you, I guess.

00:11:21.000 What strikes me is the Watergate scandal.

00:11:23.000 When that popped, I mean, that was like the end of Nixon's campaign at the time, I believe.

00:11:28.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, but I mean, he resigned, right?

00:11:31.000 That was the end of his presidency.

00:11:33.000 He resigned.

00:11:33.000 He resigned, yeah, before... Because he was spying on the Democrats during the campaign, but then they found out.

00:11:38.000 When Hillary's emails popped and they claimed she was spying on Bernie's campaign, is that right?

00:11:42.000 She was spying... They were spying on Trump.

00:11:44.000 On Trump's campaign?

00:11:45.000 Yeah.

00:11:45.000 Where's the outrage?

00:11:46.000 They sandbagged Bernie's campaign.

00:11:49.000 Yeah, they were planning on talking about him being Jewish and using it against him and stuff in the emails.

00:11:53.000 Like, how is this not causing a Watergate-level landslide of reprisal?

00:11:59.000 Because there's a military industrial complex and now the spy network, it's like they've been trying to build this technocracy since 1913, the Rockefeller, you know, the military, basically the Federal Reserve was the first, the beginning of it with, what's his name?

00:12:13.000 Woodrow Wilson.

00:12:14.000 And now they have the technology in place to actually spy with the Patriot Act and things like that.

00:12:19.000 And so they're like, just, they don't even care anymore.

00:12:21.000 They're just trying to take control of everything. 0.74

00:12:23.000 It's so gross.

00:12:24.000 Have you been following the critical race theory stuff in the news?

00:12:29.000 As much as it has sustained my interest.

00:12:34.000 Which is none.

00:12:35.000 None?

00:12:36.000 Well, I shouldn't put it that way.

00:12:40.000 No comment.

00:12:43.000 I don't know if you wanted to talk about the comparison between feminism then and feminism today. 1.00

00:12:49.000 Well, I wouldn't.

00:12:50.000 Feminism and critical race theory. 0.96

00:12:52.000 Critical theory, right?

00:12:54.000 Yeah.

00:12:55.000 So what we're seeing now started with what's called intersectional feminism, which is a tenet of critical race theory. 1.00

00:13:02.000 So it starts with second wave feminism, which I believe is what, like the 60s, 70s?

00:13:07.000 First wave was like suffragettes. 1.00

00:13:10.000 Third wave, I think, was what we saw in the 2000s.

00:13:15.000 So this is all just considered to be waves of feminism. 1.00

00:13:18.000 So what happens is third wave feminism started asking these questions about privilege, intersectionality, and race. 1.00

00:13:26.000 And so what started very much with, if you're a woman, a biological female, then you have certain rights and things you're not granted access to, so those rights are fought for.

00:13:39.000 And it's like workplace, pay parity, things like that.

00:13:43.000 And then you get into the late 2000s, early 2010s, and feminism all of a sudden starts adopting what's called intersectionality, which is... I don't know what that is. 1.00

00:13:52.000 What is intersectionality?

00:13:53.000 Intersectionality is that a woman faces a certain kind of discrimination. 0.99

00:13:59.000 So do what everybody does.

00:14:01.000 And so intersectionality says the discrimination faced by a woman is different than the discrimination faced by a black woman. 1.00

00:14:08.000 Why?

00:14:09.000 Because at the intersection of race and feminism there is something unique that is experienced only by black women. 1.00

00:14:15.000 So specifically there is the trope of the angry black woman. 0.83

00:14:19.000 So when someone is being sexist towards a black woman there's an element of race comprised within it.

00:14:25.000 Okay.

00:14:25.000 It's way too... I look at it a lot more simply.

00:14:27.000 So intersectionality is a component of critical race theory.

00:14:32.000 Okay, it's way too... I look at it a lot more simply. I think, you know, certain... if you

00:14:40.000 want to talk about women, certain women have it harder than other women. 1.00

00:14:45.000 And I think probably black women do, generally, you know, across the board. 1.00

00:14:51.000 Women who are poor, women who are raising children by themselves. 1.00

00:14:55.000 You know, women, some people have it easier. 1.00

00:14:59.000 Some women have it easier than other women. 1.00

00:15:01.000 I can't, I can't relate to I don't get it.

00:15:05.000 The intersectionality.

00:15:07.000 I don't know.

00:15:07.000 It's a way of talking about it in a complicated way.

00:15:11.000 It's a way of making sense of the world.

00:15:13.000 It's a way of basically identifying the reasons for why people face struggles and why certain people have to overcome more.

00:15:25.000 At the same time, just those exterior immutable traits really don't have anything to do with people's individual situations in terms of what they might be born into that's beyond that.

00:15:38.000 It puts you in a box, effectively.

00:15:40.000 The result is that these schools are now telling white kids that they're inherently bad. 0.99

00:15:45.000 They're saying white is bad and whiteness is evil. 0.99

00:15:49.000 And so now you have kids who are coming home and telling their parents their parents are revolting and now you're 0.97

00:15:53.000 getting Republicans winning in a bunch of different states.

00:15:55.000 So it seems like, you know, you see Bill Maher wake up to this kind of stuff.

00:15:59.000 He starts talking about how the Democrats are basically destroying themselves by isolating and fracturing their

00:16:06.000 voting blocks.

00:16:08.000 Well, isn't this also it's kind of an extension of erasing culture in a way?

00:16:14.000 I mean, it's all sort of the same.

00:16:16.000 It's trying to make a new reality out of something that was not a pleasant reality.

00:16:25.000 Reinterpreting our past.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, like this is a really simple way to put it.

00:16:29.000 I don't watch the news a lot anymore and I watch TMC or TCM.

00:16:35.000 It's the movie channel and it's really well done.

00:16:39.000 It's all the old movies.

00:16:40.000 It's the movies I grew up with that my mother, you know, knew all the words to all the songs to.

00:16:48.000 And they have adapted this position of, you know, there's this whole conversation about, say, Gone with the Wind as an example, and just erasing it because it represented a bad thing about, you know, whites and slavery.

00:17:07.000 But there's no point in erasing any of it.

00:17:10.000 Let's face what it was and move on.

00:17:14.000 Isn't it a similar kind of conversation?

00:17:17.000 Well now, California just tried repealing their civil rights provision from their constitution.

00:17:24.000 The Democrats in California wanted to repeal the anti-discrimination provision which prevented discrimination on the basis of race.

00:17:33.000 And their argument was, we need to discriminate on the basis of race to help minorities.

00:17:40.000 And so my response there is to go back in time to the pre-1960s.

00:17:49.000 You think it was better when that's how the laws were structured, but that's what they're doing.

00:17:52.000 That's the Democrats that are doing that, not the Republicans.

00:17:54.000 And then it's a question of how far you go back in time, because, you know, if you go back on a long enough timeline, like for example, the Irish were being enslaved by the hundreds of thousands per year in Baghdad in the 800s.

00:18:07.000 And at that time, the Arabs were the dominant culture in the world.

00:18:10.000 The Irish? 0.74

00:18:11.000 Yeah, the Irish were getting dragged over to basically slave markets all over the world by the Vikings and stuff like that.

00:18:17.000 They just come in, grab them and, you know, drag them over to Baghdad. 0.91

00:18:20.000 And the British too, right?

00:18:21.000 And the Slavs, which is where slave comes from. 0.99

00:18:23.000 And the Italians. 0.96

00:18:26.000 You have Italian privilege, all right. 0.99

00:18:28.000 The Vikings would go down the Rhine.

00:18:29.000 They sacked Paris.

00:18:30.000 They were everywhere.

00:18:31.000 They were in the Mediterranean.

00:18:32.000 That was nuts.

00:18:33.000 Now look at Norway.

00:18:34.000 And they built castles.

00:18:34.000 And Sweden.

00:18:35.000 And they couldn't penetrate the castles.

00:18:37.000 That's crazy though, right? 0.52

00:18:37.000 Because when you look at the Nordic countries, they're very effeminate. 0.52

00:18:43.000 Anymore.

00:18:43.000 Yeah.

00:18:44.000 So a lot of people are wondering like, wow, they used to be particularly barbaric, you know, seriously going around stealing people.

00:18:51.000 And now they're all very much like equality and, you know, fair wages.

00:18:54.000 It's like, all right, well.

00:18:55.000 Yeah, that's the other problem with applying like immutable, you know, characteristics to cultures and stuff like that.

00:19:00.000 Like, oh, because you're born like this, then you're...

00:19:02.000 Because you're like this, you're going to face this challenge.

00:19:06.000 Actually, I think if you look at the Nordic countries, it's a really good example for why we should not blame a group of people for the sins of their past.

00:19:13.000 To say like, you know, right now, that's the big thing with critical race theory is that white people are evil, settler colonialism is wrong, and English is an oppressive language.

00:19:22.000 And it's like, I don't know if the, you know, the Vikings can figure things out and become, you know, I don't know, equitable and peaceful or whatever.

00:19:31.000 Why are you going to blame them for what other people did?

00:19:33.000 Right?

00:19:34.000 That's true.

00:19:35.000 And I mean, that's really the question is like, what is, um, you know, America is a very like young country.

00:19:42.000 And I think that a lot of times our collective understanding of culture and history is very much shorter than like in Europe, for example, like if you next to your school, you have a cathedral from the 1200s, you have a tendency to like, think of things on a longer timeline.

00:19:56.000 And so, yeah, we have this very kind of like, it's our understanding of like the history of progressivism is like three generations long.

00:20:03.000 And, you know, it's like, I think that that neglects to realize if you think back a little bit further than you realize more progress than you think has been made.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, you're making me think about second wave feminism, which is the one from the 60s. 1.00

00:20:14.000 The first wave feminism was the end of the 1800s. 1.00

00:20:16.000 It was like the right to, what is it?

00:20:18.000 Suffrage.

00:20:18.000 Yeah, suffrage.

00:20:19.000 So what is your definition of feminism as you knew it growing up? 1.00

00:20:23.000 Well, I guess I fall into the second wave.

00:20:27.000 I never really got it straight.

00:20:31.000 It's just being a woman and being proud of being a woman and not having to defend yourself because you are.

00:20:42.000 Whether or not you decide to have children, you have five children, you work, you don't work. 0.59

00:20:48.000 I think that we've kind of been led astray.

00:20:53.000 The women after me, I think, got kind of mixed up with it because what my generation was trying to do, I think, was say, whatever it is... Oops.

00:21:08.000 Yeah, you need to keep it a little closer.

00:21:09.000 Oh, sorry.

00:21:10.000 You can move it around whenever you move.

00:21:13.000 I don't know.

00:21:13.000 It just boils down to having the courage to be who you are.

00:21:19.000 I mean, basically.

00:21:21.000 And if you're a woman, it's more complicated because you have a womb. 0.98

00:21:25.000 Well, hold on.

00:21:26.000 What?

00:21:26.000 What is a woman?

00:21:28.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:21:30.000 This is actually a question debated in politics today, and our Supreme Court nominee... Did you just say that women have wombs?

00:21:37.000 No, no, no, hold on, hold on.

00:21:38.000 Kitanji Brown-Jackson.

00:21:40.000 Kitanji Brown-Jackson, who was just nominated to the Supreme Court and confirmed, said she could not answer the question of what is a woman.

00:21:48.000 Because she's not a biologist.

00:21:49.000 So my question to you is, second wave feminism, what is a woman? 0.99

00:21:52.000 This is all way beyond me.

00:21:55.000 I grew up as a woman because I have a womb and I have an ability to bear children.

00:22:04.000 This is as far as I'm going to go with it right now.

00:22:07.000 And I made a choice.

00:22:10.000 I always wanted to have children.

00:22:12.000 I don't know if that was cultural or if it was hormonal or whatever, but it was very important to me.

00:22:19.000 And I never felt as though that was challenged.

00:22:23.000 I was lucky.

00:22:25.000 I never felt like I had to fight for that.

00:22:30.000 And at the same time, I wanted to be out there in the world and work, and it made economic sense, and it just made sense in terms of whatever my ambitions were.

00:22:42.000 And I was very fortunate because I had the resources to And it's mostly because I had very understanding employers who happened to be mostly men, who were liberated, you know, who allowed me to have my children, keep my job and carry on.

00:23:08.000 I don't know what happened.

00:23:09.000 This is not a gender conversation for me.

00:23:15.000 It's more about, and I, you know, you got me all mixed up.

00:23:20.000 It's an identity conversation.

00:23:22.000 Welcome to our world.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 It's hard for me to talk about it in terms other than being someone who bears children and works

00:23:33.000 and just, you know, fends for whatever it is is important to me in the world.

00:23:42.000 I think W-O-M, the letters womb and woman.

00:23:46.000 I mean, the W-O-M is part of both of those words.

00:23:48.000 I don't know if that matters, but I'm not going to say it doesn't.

00:23:51.000 And I'm not going to, I can't criticize, but I can't criticize someone who, you know, has, has a struggle with figuring out what gender they are.

00:24:04.000 I don't have a problem with it.

00:24:06.000 I'm lucky, you know, I guess, or I'm, I was never taught to challenge it.

00:24:12.000 So, with our incoming Supreme Court Justice who doesn't know what a woman is, how can you have feminism, how can you have women's rights if a Supreme Court Justice doesn't even know what a woman is? 0.99

00:24:26.000 Or can't define it?

00:24:29.000 It feels to me like feminism is out the window. 1.00

00:24:32.000 I don't think that's true.

00:24:34.000 I think feminism is more about the... I don't think one Supreme Court judge is going to affect a culture change. 1.00

00:24:45.000 Common sense.

00:24:45.000 In terms of... Well, it's the other way around.

00:24:48.000 The judge is saying she can't define women because the culture has already changed. 1.00

00:24:52.000 I know, what I'm saying is that won't necessarily alter the majority of women's struggles One way or the other, necessarily.

00:25:03.000 I agree.

00:25:04.000 I just think that it will amplify, it'll make them worse.

00:25:08.000 I don't know about that.

00:25:08.000 I don't know.

00:25:09.000 Well, so for instance, California tried repealing the non-discrimination provision from their constitution.

00:25:14.000 If that were to be removed, then an employer, it was public contract, and they could literally say, you're a woman, get out. 1.00

00:25:21.000 So that sounds like going backwards from civil rights.

00:25:23.000 The 1964 Civil Rights Act granted those protections.

00:25:26.000 California enacted a similar provision in schooling and public contracting in the 90s, and the Democrats are trying to be rid of that.

00:25:32.000 So all of a sudden, you know, the argument from Democrats and these progressives is that if we have the ability to discriminate, we can actually discriminate against men.

00:25:42.000 And that's literally their argument.

00:25:43.000 So we can help women by removing men, but that just means that a man could do the same thing in kind.

00:25:48.000 And you'd come back to the point where the people who are more aggressive and more ambitious will dominate the industry.

00:25:54.000 And then if they have the ability to discriminate, you have a tendency to see it at least to a certain degree.

00:25:58.000 I think that makes the struggle for men worse.

00:26:00.000 I mean it gets even more interesting like if you're talking about the case of California removing those civil rights protections is right now in like I'm 32 like our age group and lower women actually in like academic scenarios and early work environments are more successful than men.

00:26:18.000 So, you know, if more women are enrolling in college and getting better grades, then in that case they would actually be, right, at a disadvantage for, you know, getting the, you know, having the, whatever the intersectional... I think the whole thing is just... 1.00

00:26:33.000 It absolutely destroys women. 1.00

00:26:36.000 So what's happening now with... It's going to take way more than that to destroy women, Tim. 1.00

00:26:42.000 I certainly don't... I'm not saying all women will be destroyed.

00:26:44.000 I'm saying the rights gained over the past several decades.

00:26:47.000 So what's going to happen now?

00:26:48.000 There are more women in college. 1.00

00:26:50.000 They're going to be laden with more debt.

00:26:51.000 Young men aren't taking these... are less likely to take out this debt, and they're going to be more... well, they're going to be less restricted.

00:26:57.000 They're going to be able to go into trade jobs, which will make Maybe not as money, but with no debt, they're going to be unrestrained.

00:27:04.000 So it really feels like everything that's happening.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, but don't you think it's a pendulum?

00:27:09.000 Just the way historically everything has been for hundreds and hundreds of years.

00:27:14.000 You know, you go too far and then you come back.

00:27:16.000 It's just unnatural.

00:27:17.000 It's kind of a spiral.

00:27:18.000 It goes to the left and then it goes to the right and then it goes to the left, but it's always moving forward.

00:27:23.000 I'm looking at these waves of feminism. 1.00

00:27:25.000 Yeah, the first one happened in the late 1800s.

00:27:25.000 Golden ratio.

00:27:27.000 It was 60 years later that you got the second wave.

00:27:29.000 Then it was 28 years later that you got the third wave.

00:27:33.000 Then it was like 15 years later you got the fourth wave.

00:27:36.000 Now they're talking about eight years later, you're starting to see maybe there's a fifth wave.

00:27:40.000 I mean, you know, women who wanted to behave like men in the workplace, I think, set feminism back. 1.00

00:27:49.000 I think women were more of a problem for women at certain points than men were for women.

00:27:58.000 And so it's never one, you know, it's a dynamic.

00:28:02.000 I think it doesn't, there isn't one thing that will determine forever the way things will continue to be.

00:28:09.000 I don't think.

00:28:11.000 Hopefully the Constitution and the things that established our country will remain.

00:28:18.000 I think they're gone already.

00:28:22.000 What?

00:28:23.000 Like the right to keep and bear arms.

00:28:23.000 Oh yeah.

00:28:25.000 We endlessly talk about this.

00:28:26.000 It's gone.

00:28:28.000 I mean, sure, you can try and go... We're in Maryland right now.

00:28:32.000 You go to Maryland and say, I would like a gun.

00:28:34.000 They say, no, get out.

00:28:35.000 I mean, the Constitution does not protect our rights.

00:28:37.000 So you want to talk about free speech, but when private corporations control the public town square, I guess technically you can go outside and talk.

00:28:43.000 But now they've even arrested people for posting rap lyrics.

00:28:47.000 If I have to go to the government and ask permission to keep and bear arms, the Constitution has not protected my rights.

00:28:53.000 And that's true for New York, New Jersey, Maryland, what other states?

00:28:56.000 We have California, Hawaii.

00:28:57.000 D.C.

00:28:58.000 is not a state, but yes, absolutely.

00:28:58.000 D.C.

00:29:01.000 You can't have a gun.

00:29:02.000 So what constitution?

00:29:03.000 And then we talk about the Fifth Amendment.

00:29:05.000 I mean, look at the stuff they do to Julian Assange.

00:29:07.000 He's not an American citizen, but certainly when it comes to matters of, you know, extradition or whatever, people coming to this country, you are afforded rights, no matter whether or not you're a citizen.

00:29:16.000 But you look at what's happening with January 6th.

00:29:18.000 The defendants who are kept in solitary confinement for a year, there's no constitutional rights.

00:29:23.000 It's rights for those who have power, and the Constitution's become a piece of paper that's only being upheld by one side that desperately wants to believe it still exists.

00:29:29.000 Do you think it's because we've been lulled into a comfortable place where we don't realize how important carving those things out is?

00:29:39.000 Everything's so safe and easy right now that it's like, okay, well, maybe the government can go ahead and do whatever they want.

00:29:45.000 It's cultural enforcement.

00:29:47.000 It's what a society is willing to tolerate.

00:29:50.000 So if, you know, the Feds stormed some woman in Alaska's house because they thought she went into the Capitol building on January 6th.

00:29:58.000 Where's the protests?

00:30:00.000 Where's the anti-government?

00:30:01.000 Where's the anti-authoritarian protests for that stuff?

00:30:04.000 They don't care.

00:30:05.000 We had the worst riots we've seen in 50 years in 2020.

00:30:09.000 And it was by the people claiming to be the left.

00:30:13.000 The left is now pro-corporate when they want to be.

00:30:15.000 There's like, there's no principles backing this.

00:30:17.000 The right tries to maintain this idea that there's a constitution and that we have rights and these things are being upheld.

00:30:23.000 But when every major institution is corrupt, you just got a group of conservatives who are like, there's a constitution as long as it stands.

00:30:30.000 And it's like, bro, you live in the past.

00:30:32.000 Like Hollywood, schools, like the CRT in school stuff is a perfect example.

00:30:37.000 Absolute corruption.

00:30:38.000 The media then lies to cover up the extreme stuff they're pulling off.

00:30:42.000 Actually, let me pull up the story right here.

00:30:45.000 Florida shares examples of critical race theory in banned textbooks.

00:30:49.000 What?

00:30:49.000 Me racist?

00:30:50.000 More than 2 million people have tested their racial prejudice reads one textbook's math problem.

00:30:55.000 So Florida got rid of a bunch of math books because they said they had critical race theory indoctrination in them.

00:31:02.000 Now, prominent progressives and leftists are saying the right is banning math because they don't want people to learn math.

00:31:10.000 What you actually see in these books is it says things like, the bar graph shows the differences among age groups on the implicit association test that measures levels of racial prejudice.

00:31:21.000 Higher scores indicate a stronger bias.

00:31:24.000 What does that have to do with math?

00:31:26.000 Why are they showing these graphs?

00:31:27.000 Adding and subtracting polynomials.

00:31:29.000 What?

00:31:30.000 Me racist?

00:31:31.000 More than 2 million people have tested their racial prejudice online using a version of the implicit association test.

00:31:37.000 Many groups' average scores fall between slight and moderate bias.

00:31:41.000 That's in a math book.

00:31:43.000 When they remove those books from school, Democrats, corporate press, and progressive activists make up insane lies Yeah, but everybody, I mean, it's all propaganda.

00:31:53.000 You have propaganda on both sides.

00:31:55.000 I mean, this is a math book, though.

00:31:57.000 This is like a grade school math book.

00:31:59.000 Okay.

00:32:00.000 Where is that book?

00:32:01.000 Is it all over America?

00:32:03.000 Is it in all the schools now?

00:32:05.000 Florida statewide.

00:32:06.000 The textbooks have gotten pretty crazy.

00:32:08.000 Okay.

00:32:08.000 So Florida is one of 50 states.

00:32:11.000 Okay.

00:32:12.000 I think, you know, it's happening all over the place.

00:32:15.000 It's like Virginia, for example.

00:32:16.000 Okay.

00:32:16.000 But, but there's a little bit of broad sweeping generalization here.

00:32:21.000 I mean, I have more faith in in our world than believing that all this stuff is gonna stick.

00:32:32.000 Some of it's gonna buff out, Tim.

00:32:34.000 Well, yeah, because people have started to stand up and say no.

00:32:38.000 Yeah.

00:32:38.000 But it seems like it's mostly only in Florida, right?

00:32:43.000 So Disney comes out, and what's happening in Florida, if you're not familiar, is they passed a bill called the Parental Rights and Education Bill, which grants parents the right to know.

00:32:53.000 Yes, I know.

00:32:54.000 Don't say gay. 0.85

00:32:55.000 What happens immediately is... 0.88

00:32:56.000 Don't say gay.

00:32:57.000 But the bill nowhere in any way has anything to do with that.

00:33:00.000 Right.

00:33:00.000 The bill is just, you know, certain sex ed concepts for, you know, pre- for kindergarten to third grade.

00:33:05.000 Not allowed.

00:33:06.000 And the teachers can't keep secrets from the parents on physical, mental, or medical issues.

00:33:11.000 Parents have a right to know what's in their curriculum.

00:33:13.000 The media comes out and says don't say gay.

00:33:15.000 That's not true.

00:33:16.000 The only people fighting back against this are for the most part in Florida.

00:33:19.000 We did see after this, I think Texas, Idaho, Mississippi, we're starting to see statewide hyperpolarization to push back, but it's really polarizing.

00:33:29.000 So a better example is probably abortion, where Oklahoma, I think, outright banned abortion.

00:33:33.000 Just literally banned it, unless it's for the life of the mother.

00:33:37.000 And Colorado now allows abortion up to the point of birth, meaning a fully developed nine-month-old baby can be... Two extremes, yeah.

00:33:44.000 Right.

00:33:45.000 And so this is what's happening in this country.

00:33:47.000 So it's not that it's buffing out.

00:33:48.000 It's that the lines that there's two distinct cultures that have emerged.

00:33:52.000 I know, but that for right now.

00:33:54.000 And this is what happens historically.

00:33:57.000 And everything doesn't everything is it's not everything moves.

00:34:01.000 You know, it doesn't stay in the same place.

00:34:03.000 And having conversations and arguments and providing a forum for debate is what we have to keep going.

00:34:15.000 So the left, as I guess it would be colloquially described, won't come on a show like this.

00:34:21.000 That's why I came on the show.

00:34:22.000 Who is the left?

00:34:24.000 Who is it?

00:34:27.000 Left is a reference to tribal spheres of influence, as is right. 0.96

00:34:31.000 It doesn't really mean much of anything.

00:34:32.000 I just mean who are, like, who have you asked to come?

00:34:35.000 Well, no, we can't get into that.

00:34:37.000 Well, so there's a lot of people.

00:34:39.000 It's funny you say that, because recently there have been a couple of invitations.

00:34:43.000 Right, absolutely.

00:34:44.000 So one of the most notable is one of the biggest political streamers for the left is Hasan Piker, who I've repeatedly invited on the show, but he's always got a different excuse.

00:34:51.000 The first time it was, you know, I said, I tweeted out, we invite these people on the show, they always say yes, and then ghost us.

00:34:59.000 And then Hasan tweets out, I'll come on your show.

00:35:02.000 I said, we will pay for everything.

00:35:03.000 We'll get you a hotel.

00:35:04.000 We'll bring you out in style.

00:35:05.000 Then he privately messages me saying, nah, I'm scared of COVID.

00:35:07.000 I won't do it.

00:35:09.000 Now he's saying, I'm not going to travel to your show.

00:35:12.000 I'm too busy.

00:35:13.000 We recently had another guy that was arguing and posting outright lies.

00:35:19.000 And it's just insane that these people... I'll tell you how crazy it is.

00:35:24.000 I'm holding up a pen.

00:35:25.000 You can see it?

00:35:26.000 I'm not holding a pen.

00:35:26.000 Yeah.

00:35:28.000 That's what they do.

00:35:29.000 The Washington Post published the private address of someone on Twitter.

00:35:34.000 You can see it.

00:35:35.000 And they're going, no they didn't.

00:35:36.000 And you're like, why am I even talking to you if you're going to say something so absurd?

00:35:39.000 You just have to find other people.

00:35:41.000 That's all.

00:35:41.000 There's no other people.

00:35:42.000 There have to be other people.

00:35:44.000 Have you been, did you watch the French, you know, Macron and... Le Pen.

00:35:51.000 Now, they were given, this is the way we should debate things.

00:35:51.000 Le Pen.

00:35:56.000 They're each given like, I don't know what it is, like an hour and a half.

00:36:00.000 And there's no like, you know, you have 30 seconds to answer this question.

00:36:03.000 And they actually, they insult each other, they talk to each other, but they have enough time to actually have a conversation, which is a debate.

00:36:13.000 Which is, we do this here.

00:36:14.000 Instead of a soundbite here and there.

00:36:16.000 So we, that's why we have this, you know, two and a half hour long show.

00:36:20.000 Now, shout out to Vosh. 0.96

00:36:22.000 He's a leftist socialist YouTuber who a lot of people on the right hate, especially because of his views on children and adult content for children.

00:36:31.000 But he came on the show twice and that's that's that's pretty much there's also Jen Perlman shout out to Jen

00:36:36.000 She's a progressive and she's come on the show We've had great conversations

00:36:39.000 But this this this guy who was recently arguing that something that literally happened and messaging me saying

00:36:44.000 he'll come on the show I say here email us so we can set it up and then he goes to

00:36:47.000 us. It's just it's a recurring Well, that's cowardly. I think mom what it is is like you're

00:36:52.000 so we talked earlier before the show about like are we inheriting,

00:36:57.000 you know, the tail end of the counterculture progressive movement that you guys initiated

00:37:02.000 in the late 60s and Like I think to a certain extent what we're talking about

00:37:06.000 here when you say what is the left?

00:37:07.000 I mean to a certain extent it has become orthodoxy of this kind of like monolithic

00:37:12.000 you know mainstream idea of what it is to be a good person to be a moral virtuous person and

00:37:18.000 And so, anybody who engages with a Tim Pool is stepping outside of that orthodoxy, and nobody wants to be that person who, you know, steps outside of where everybody is, you know, thinking right.

00:37:31.000 But I did, and a lot of my old friends won't talk to me, or don't talk to me, they unfollow me and stuff, because it's like Ian's a part of the fascist movement of the United States, where I'm like, yo, the Federal Reserve, shout out to everyone in the chat that loves that one, is fascist.

00:37:43.000 I'm trying to expose that stuff.

00:37:45.000 And we and like the establishment, I guess we call it the establishment.

00:37:50.000 They just outright make things up, right?

00:37:53.000 I think that left and right is a communist.

00:37:55.000 I mean, it goes back to the French Revolution, where people sat on the left.

00:37:58.000 They were the revolutionaries.

00:37:59.000 They were the loyalists.

00:37:59.000 People sat on the right.

00:38:00.000 And so it really literally comes from they called themselves the left and right of the aisle.

00:38:05.000 Mao talked a lot about the rightists and he persecuted the rightists in the Cultural Revolution of China.

00:38:10.000 And so I think that somehow they've wormed that into our modern discourse to get us to divide each other.

00:38:17.000 I look at, we just had the Masked Singer.

00:38:21.000 You guys see this?

00:38:22.000 Rudy Giuliani turned out to have been the masked singer.

00:38:29.000 There's a show called Masked Singer where someone wears a costume and sings.

00:38:32.000 And then they have to guess who it was.

00:38:34.000 Turns out the mask comes off.

00:38:36.000 Rudy Giuliani!

00:38:37.000 He's got a beautiful voice, turns out.

00:38:39.000 I think it was Ken Jeong, was that his name?

00:38:42.000 He walks off stage.

00:38:44.000 I thought about that because people have said that Twitter isn't real life for a long time.

00:38:48.000 That social media isn't real life.

00:38:50.000 I think the real issue is that Twitter has always been real life, but for a younger generation.

00:38:55.000 What I see happening now is when you look at cable TV, CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, their viewers are overwhelmingly over 56 years old.

00:39:03.000 So all of this stuff is happening.

00:39:06.000 It is worse than I've ever seen it, granted I'm only 36.

00:39:10.000 And I feel like the older generation doesn't understand how bad it is because they're not actually in the same culture as the rest of us.

00:39:16.000 That's possible.

00:39:17.000 That's quite possible.

00:39:19.000 So for, you know, Richie to experience things on the ground, I'll give you one of my favorite examples of the hyperpolarization is a man named Daryl Davis.

00:39:29.000 He's an old black jazz musician.

00:39:33.000 He thought to himself one day, how could someone hate me if they never met me?

00:39:36.000 So he went to a Klan rally, met some old Klansmen, started talking to them.

00:39:41.000 And he said, sure enough, they were racists.

00:39:42.000 But after a few weeks to a few months, these guys started taking off their robes and saying, I was completely wrong.

00:39:47.000 They were like, the things they say about black people does not represent my good friend, Daryl.

00:39:52.000 He told one story about how he met this Klansman who was high ranking.

00:39:56.000 And he had this dream to see this famous rock and roll car in a museum or something like that.

00:40:02.000 And Daryl's like, oh, I can get you in there.

00:40:04.000 And he was like, get out of here. 0.98

00:40:05.000 And then here he is, this racist guy, having his dream come true, granted to him by a black man. 0.85

00:40:10.000 And these people were like, all of a sudden, like, this racist stuff is wrong.

00:40:13.000 So this is Daryl Davis.

00:40:15.000 We booked him.

00:40:16.000 He's incredible.

00:40:16.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:40:17.000 How old is he?

00:40:19.000 Find out.

00:40:19.000 I'm not sure.

00:40:19.000 I don't know.

00:40:20.000 He's going to be here, actually.

00:40:21.000 Yeah, he'll be here soon.

00:40:22.000 And we booked him for an event to headline because the event was about, essentially, civil libertarianism.

00:40:28.000 It was called Ending Violence, Racism, and Authoritarianism.

00:40:30.000 We wanted people to be like, we want to get rid of this stuff.

00:40:34.000 Far left extremists showed up and threatened to burn down the theater.

00:40:37.000 So the theater canceled our contract within I think it was like three weeks of the event.

00:40:42.000 We were forced to move the event to a casino with half the capacity because the casino had the security and they were willing to do it.

00:40:47.000 Another venue nearby told us, we love what you're doing, But we will have our venue burned down if we host this conversation.

00:40:55.000 The protesters showed up to the after party, and Daryl Davis, having de-radicalized over 200 Klansmen, said, I'm gonna go talk to these guys and see what's up.

00:41:04.000 And yet they did.

00:41:05.000 They screamed at him and wouldn't let him say one word.

00:41:07.000 He was so shocked, he wrote this post on Facebook where he said, I can't believe it.

00:41:11.000 I've never experienced anything like this.

00:41:14.000 What is going on with these people and it ended up going massively viral because the current state of politics in this country is the younger left generation, we call it the left, whatever we call it, group A, group B, whatever, they are unwilling to compromise, unwilling to talk, they are angry, chaotic, and destructive.

00:41:32.000 So, for example, the guy who said, the Washington Post never posted a private address, and everyone's showing the image of them doing it, and he's like, no, they didn't.

00:41:41.000 These are people who don't care about what's true.

00:41:42.000 They know that they can say it, and they're people gullible enough to just believe it, and that gives them power.

00:41:48.000 So you have, it was the late David Graeber who said, elements of the left have adopted the fascistic tenet, there is no truth but power.

00:41:55.000 And this guy was called the anarchist anthropologist.

00:41:58.000 He was one of the progenitors of Occupy Wall Street.

00:42:02.000 Later in his life, he said, I'm watching the left embrace fascistic tenets.

00:42:07.000 And that's where we are now, where the corporate press will outright make something up.

00:42:13.000 Their allies and nonprofits will make things up.

00:42:16.000 The whole insurrection narrative, all of this stuff are outright lies.

00:42:19.000 My favorite example in this capacity is that in January, I said, it's going to be very difficult to convict someone of trespassing at the Capitol when the police opened the doors for them.

00:42:30.000 The Young Turks then make up a lie that I said people who are violent shouldn't be charged because there were no signs.

00:42:35.000 Right.

00:42:35.000 And it works for their audience.

00:42:37.000 I invite them on the show.

00:42:38.000 I say, we'll cover all your costs.

00:42:39.000 We've known each other for years.

00:42:41.000 They laugh and they say, of course not.

00:42:42.000 We don't care.

00:42:43.000 We don't actually care about this stuff.

00:42:45.000 Darryl Davis is 64 years old, by the way.

00:42:47.000 He just turned 64 in March.

00:42:48.000 Happy birthday.

00:42:49.000 I think that's a good point, though, Tim.

00:42:52.000 It's like a lack of any initiative to engage with the other side.

00:42:57.000 And I'm wondering, back in the 60s and 70s, You know, somebody who was like a Bible thumping, you know, whatever, World War Two veteran who had the white picket fence and then their kid went off to Vietnam and they were all for, you know, were you not willing to engage with somebody like that?

00:43:15.000 Like, was it, you know, if you're this, then I won't even talk to you.

00:43:18.000 I think, you know, when earlier we talked about it being more generational than, Partisan, because we were filled with hope about the fact that we could make a change, we could make a difference, we could end the war.

00:43:35.000 And it might have been naive, but that's how we united.

00:43:40.000 I tried to talk to my father about it.

00:43:43.000 was the enemy because he perpetuated the war.

00:43:48.000 But would you talk to a Nixon supporter?

00:43:51.000 I tried to talk to my father about it.

00:43:54.000 Well, the feminists today are pro-war. 1.00

00:43:57.000 That's a broad generalization.

00:43:59.000 But it's true.

00:44:00.000 What do you mean?

00:44:01.000 I'm a feminist. 1.00

00:44:02.000 I'm not pro-war.

00:44:03.000 Right.

00:44:04.000 So my generation's feminists are pro-war. 1.00

00:44:06.000 But not all of them.

00:44:08.000 Well, I mean, I never, I didn't say absolutely.

00:44:11.000 I'm saying if you were to take 10 modern feminists right now and ask them if they wanted intervention in Ukraine, they'd say yes. 0.98

00:44:17.000 That's probably a fair point.

00:44:18.000 Absolutely. Donald Trump got us the Abraham Accords.

00:44:22.000 I'm so confused about everything.

00:44:25.000 There's like third wave feminism from 1994. There's fourth wave feminism from 2010. So you got to be specific. 0.66

00:44:31.000 Well, I'll put it this way. I'll put it this way. Either tacitly or directly pro-war for our generation's feminists, 1.00

00:44:37.000 right?

00:44:37.000 The people who would wear those pink hats right now are the ones with the Ukraine flags in their bios and they're the

00:44:42.000 ones that are...

00:44:43.000 I don't think that's absolutely true. My niece wore one of those pink hats. 1.00

00:44:48.000 I mean, it's a paradigm shift.

00:44:49.000 It's a paradigm shift.

00:44:50.000 There are still plenty of those hippie granola folks.

00:44:52.000 If you take 10 of these people and ask them, do you think the US should be involved in

00:44:55.000 the Ukraine-Russia war, they'll say yes. 0.93

00:44:58.000 Chris Coons, a Democratic senator, said it's time for US boots on the ground.

00:45:01.000 I mean, it's a paradigm shift.

00:45:03.000 It's a paradigm shift.

00:45:04.000 There are still plenty of those hippie granola folks.

00:45:07.000 They're also anti-vax, a lot of those people.

00:45:09.000 But take a look at this point.

00:45:10.000 With Donald Trump, no new wars.

00:45:13.000 For the first time in my life, a president did not start a war.

00:45:15.000 In fact, with Kushner's guidance, we got the Abraham Accords, which brought economic stability between countries like Saudi Arabia or just countries with Israel.

00:45:27.000 So now planes are allowed to fly over Israel.

00:45:30.000 Tremendous peace.

00:45:30.000 There was also, I think, what else was it?

00:45:32.000 Was it Bosnia?

00:45:34.000 He had that other peace agreement.

00:45:36.000 He was withdrawing our troops from Afghanistan.

00:45:38.000 He was getting our troops out of Syria.

00:45:40.000 He was...

00:45:42.000 Generally, making moves to end war.

00:45:47.000 And that's one of the reasons I did not vote for him in 2016, but I did in 2020, because he's had a timeline for the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:45:53.000 But today's feminists of my generation oppose that. 1.00

00:45:59.000 And they voted for Joe Biden, who was part of an administration that caused, I think, seven wars, started seven wars.

00:46:05.000 So whether tacitly or directly, and tacitly I say, you look at Donald Trump's body of work as an activist and you say, I'd rather vote for the guy who starts war as opposed to the guy who ends them.

00:46:16.000 They're pro-war. 0.97

00:46:17.000 That's tacit.

00:46:18.000 Now, the direct stuff is the people who right now are aligning with Democrats saying they want intervention in Ukraine.

00:46:24.000 Malcolm Nance, I mean, he's an MSNBC host, went to Ukraine.

00:46:29.000 He's 60 years old, and he's got a picture of himself holding a gun in tactical gear.

00:46:33.000 These people are outright pro-war.

00:46:35.000 Well, I think that they think if we go in, we'll end the war, which is why they want to get involved.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, that's pro-war. 0.99

00:46:40.000 It's not a United States issue.

00:46:42.000 Yeah, but neither was World War II until the Germans posed a real threat to Paris. 0.73

00:46:46.000 It's a regional conflict.

00:46:47.000 So was World War II.

00:46:48.000 If Vladimir Putin invades Poland, NATO can intervene.

00:46:51.000 Ukraine is not a NATO country.

00:46:53.000 It is not an EU country.

00:46:54.000 And they have a conflict with Russia.

00:46:56.000 And you have Democrats and our generation's left saying, intervention, war, weapons, etc.

00:47:03.000 I mean, it's absolutely insane.

00:47:05.000 The arguments I'm hearing from progressives are that we should have a no-fly zone, which is a declaration of war on Russia.

00:47:09.000 Yeah, I think they're misguided.

00:47:11.000 But a lot of them are.

00:47:12.000 It's like, it's almost as if, I mean, that is kind of embedded in exactly what you said is kind of the substance of a paradigm shift, which is like, it used to be the right that was always reactionary and always responding from what the left did.

00:47:23.000 And, you know, whatever they do, we have to oppose because we need to retain our traditions and values.

00:47:28.000 But now it's almost like once Donald Trump took control of the Republican Party, it's like the left has to react to everything that they do and say, no, that's gotta be banned.

00:47:38.000 But it was Trump and Bernie.

00:47:40.000 Trump and Bernie were a generational flip that just shocked the whole system.

00:47:45.000 Now Bernie lost, and Hillary won that primary. 1.00

00:47:49.000 Donald Trump stormed his way into the Republican Party and brought with him a wave of You know, very much a shift from the traditional conservative model to a more left economic model.

00:48:00.000 What about North Korea and the fact that he was palsy-walsy with... That's fantastic. 0.66

00:48:05.000 I nearly cried when he was negotiating peace.

00:48:08.000 My great-grandfather is from what would now be called North Korea, and the prospect of de-escalation was fascinating. 0.75

00:48:16.000 And Trump was negotiating that.

00:48:17.000 Donald Trump crossed into North Korean territory with no security.

00:48:21.000 That was one of the most profound anti-war moments of my life.

00:48:25.000 We've been palsy-wowsy with the Saudi Arabians for generations, and nobody's called that into question because it's not one of the... But just think about this. 1.00

00:48:32.000 Donald Trump crossed into North Korea with no security and walked peacefully up with Kim Jong-un, and my jaw hit the floor.

00:48:41.000 I was like, they could have snatched him up.

00:48:43.000 They could have grabbed him and said, now you give us what we want.

00:48:45.000 They shook his hand.

00:48:46.000 He walked back.

00:48:46.000 They smiled and waved, and he left.

00:48:48.000 And I said, that is leadership.

00:48:50.000 Donald Trump risked his life.

00:48:52.000 Now, I get it.

00:48:53.000 The threat is backed by we have nuclear bombs, but we're not going to mutually assure destruction, they always say.

00:48:58.000 No, Donald Trump, I couldn't believe he did that. 0.97

00:49:00.000 The guy they claim is the most selfish and insane guy in the world just risked his life? 0.98

00:49:04.000 For what point?

00:49:05.000 I was just like, it would be a profound moment for me to hear that the Korean peninsula had been reunited.

00:49:12.000 And Donald Trump made tremendous steps in that direction.

00:49:14.000 I don't think it was perfect.

00:49:15.000 I think Kim Jong-un is a bad guy.

00:49:17.000 I think they took advantage of Trump in many ways, but that was incredible.

00:49:21.000 I'm looking at, uh, just as clarification, it looks like Bosnia's wasn't involved in the peace deal, but it was, it was, uh, Serbia and Kosovo.

00:49:28.000 Yeah.

00:49:29.000 Yep.

00:49:30.000 Yeah.

00:49:30.000 And these peace deals.

00:49:31.000 Yeah.

00:49:32.000 I do have a lot of issues with Trump.

00:49:33.000 He wasn't definitely wasn't perfect, but it's nice to see somebody that's not part of the war machine.

00:49:37.000 Look at the people who came out and were like, oh, the Obama administration, the ones who signed the indefinite detention provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act, Barack Obama, who authorized extrajudicial assassinations of American citizens, and they were like, I would rather have that guy, his vice president, than Donald Trump, who signed peace agreements and worked towards ending conflict internationally, no new wars, and they voted for Joe Biden.

00:50:04.000 The left is profoundly pro-war.

00:50:07.000 When do you think that happened?

00:50:09.000 You just mentioned Bosnia.

00:50:11.000 Ma, during the Bosnia war, the American public, they were pretty for intervention, right? 0.97

00:50:17.000 That was Clinton.

00:50:18.000 Is that when it flipped, when the left wing started to become pro-war?

00:50:21.000 I don't know.

00:50:22.000 Because you were anti-war, you were progressive in the 60s.

00:50:27.000 How did that change? 2008.

00:50:32.000 You think it was 2008?

00:50:33.000 George W. Bush.

00:50:33.000 I remember marching in protests over the war in Iraq, and I was a teenager, so I knew very little, for the most part, about what was going on, other than, why are we invading this war over weapons of mass destruction and all that stuff, and we were told it wasn't true.

00:50:44.000 People were marching with signs saying George W. Bush was Hitler and all that, and I was mostly just kind of like, yeah, punk rock, ooh, screw the system, George W. Bush is bad.

00:50:53.000 And, uh, boy, was it a cold splash of water when we did it.

00:50:57.000 Barack Obama got elected.

00:50:59.000 And then I said, all right, well, the first thing Obama did, one of the first orders he signed was bombing a village full of women and children.

00:51:06.000 And I said, guys, guys, hey, let's keep this protest going.

00:51:09.000 They went, no, we're good.

00:51:10.000 And they all disappeared.

00:51:11.000 All these anti-war protesters were gone.

00:51:13.000 I think what happened was, this is the emergence of overt tribalism.

00:51:19.000 Around the same time, Facebook and Twitter and these other social networks started emerging, and people developed tribal identities, which is, I support Barack Obama.

00:51:26.000 That's who I am.

00:51:27.000 I don't care what he does. 0.95

00:51:28.000 And for me, I was kind of like, I think killing children is bad.

00:51:32.000 What are you referring to?

00:51:33.000 I'm not sure I remember.

00:51:34.000 Barack Obama?

00:51:35.000 Yeah.

00:51:35.000 Barack Obama authorized a drone strike on a civilian restaurant in Yemen, killing a 16-year-old American citizen named Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.

00:51:44.000 And the response from the White House when asked about it was, oops, we were trying to kill a different terrorist by bombing a civilian restaurant.

00:51:51.000 Just so turns out, though, Anwar al-Awlaki, his dad, was an American citizen who was also killed in an extrajudicial assassination signed off by Obama. 0.99

00:52:00.000 And to me, it sounded like Obama was sending a signal, we will kill your children. 0.99

00:52:05.000 I did. 1.00

00:52:05.000 That's just my opinion. 1.00

00:52:06.000 All that matters is I won't speculate.

00:52:08.000 In the absence of evidence, the solution which makes the least amount of assumptions

00:52:12.000 tends to be correct.

00:52:13.000 Barack Obama authorized the assassination of an American citizen by bombing a civilian cafe.

00:52:19.000 And people voted for him again.

00:52:21.000 I didn't.

00:52:22.000 And people voted for his VP over Donald Trump.

00:52:24.000 I voted for him twice. 0.74

00:52:25.000 So here you have a guy who is quite literally killing not only children in these countries.

00:52:30.000 Under the Obama administration, in order to get around the fact that it was being reported they were executing civilians by drone, they said, if the male is over 18, we don't care what they're doing.

00:52:40.000 Carrying water, harvesting crops, raising goats, they're enemy combatants because they're military age.

00:52:45.000 When our good friend Luke Rutkowski confronted the administration on the execution of the American citizen, I can't remember the guy's name.

00:52:52.000 It was Charlie Gibbs.

00:52:53.000 He said he should have had a better father.

00:52:55.000 That was their attitude.

00:52:56.000 And so I sit here, I watch all of this stuff, and then I say, I have always maintained that I think this is disgusting.

00:53:01.000 Since the George W. Bush era, I have learned my lesson with voting for people like Obama.

00:53:06.000 When Donald Trump came around with Hillary Clinton, I laughed.

00:53:08.000 You think I'm voting for Trump?

00:53:09.000 Nice try.

00:53:10.000 Hillary Clinton?

00:53:11.000 She's a warmonger.

00:53:12.000 To beat out all warmongers, she ain't getting my vote either.

00:53:15.000 And then in Donald Trump's presidency, we saw a return of American manufacturing, we saw a $3 billion investment in Michigan, we saw a challenging of the racist policies coming out of critical race theory, and we saw no new wars, we saw historic peace agreements and attempts at other historic peace agreements, and I said, I gotta vote for this guy.

00:53:32.000 He needs another term.

00:53:33.000 And now what we have is the people who are supposed to be anti-war are the ones who are going around smashing windows and starting fires, cheering on intervention and bombing in Ukraine, calling for no-fly zones.

00:53:43.000 It's just...

00:53:45.000 There was never in my life, I think, I was taken for a ride early on when these people claimed they were anti-war, but the whole time they were just, I want power and I will say whatever I have to say to get it.

00:53:55.000 Obama did run on a platform of, you know, non-intervention and pulling out of Middle Eastern conflicts, and ultimately it was quite the contrary, you know?

00:54:04.000 I think it was seven new wars.

00:54:07.000 Are you counting Libya, the no-fly zone?

00:54:09.000 Yeah, yeah, Syria, Libya.

00:54:10.000 Well, I mean, come on, Hillary Clinton, we came, we saw, he died.

00:54:13.000 Yep.

00:54:13.000 I'm still stuck on the feminists being warmongers.

00:54:17.000 I still haven't cracked that thought.

00:54:20.000 With respect to Ukraine, I actually think that that's probably correct, which is the majority of, you know, progressives.

00:54:27.000 Yeah, if you, um, Bette Midler, she posted a picture of like a three-year-old Ukrainian girl waving a flag and she's like, we have to do it for her. 0.62

00:54:35.000 You know, it's like, be, you know, be brave or whatever.

00:54:37.000 Just seeing the call, like, uh, I think it was Chris Coons.

00:54:40.000 He said, uh, we need U.S.

00:54:42.000 These are Democrats.

00:54:42.000 soldiers on the ground.

00:54:44.000 The Republicans, I think, would love the war.

00:54:46.000 The problem is the younger civil libertarian types and conservatives do not want war.

00:54:52.000 And that's why they really liked Trump.

00:54:55.000 So the Republican Party is in a bind.

00:54:57.000 You know, they despise Trump.

00:54:59.000 They despise the populists.

00:55:00.000 But so long as there are, you know, the left likes to, you know, the Democrat-aligned people like to call me right wing.

00:55:07.000 And I'm like, I don't care what you call me.

00:55:09.000 I will vote for Republican in two seconds if they stand by ending foreign conflict.

00:55:15.000 But more incursions, right?

00:55:17.000 I understand that if, you know, there are terrorists, right?

00:55:20.000 We had 9-11.

00:55:21.000 And Tulsi Gabbard, I believe, and Ron Paul were both, this was left and right, both of

00:55:26.000 the opinion that we should go after only terrorists and not declare war on an entire nation and

00:55:31.000 destabilize their government and nation-build.

00:55:33.000 Ron Paul said we should enact a letter of mark and reprisal to target those groups,

00:55:38.000 which is sending private groups to engage in low-tier, non-nationwide conflict.

00:55:45.000 Instead, we were like, let's invade Afghanistan, tear down their government and build up a new one over 20 years. 0.96

00:55:50.000 Never should have happened.

00:55:51.000 So the Democrats and the Republicans were totally on board with that.

00:55:54.000 You bring me a Donald Trump and I laugh.

00:55:56.000 I then watch him say, here's the timeline for our withdrawal from this country.

00:55:59.000 And I was like, okay, go on.

00:56:01.000 He says, I also want to make sure we're not involved in Syria. 0.78

00:56:03.000 And I'm like, yes, what else?

00:56:05.000 He goes, Abraham Accords. 0.57

00:56:06.000 We're going to make peace agreements in the Middle East.

00:56:07.000 And I was like, all right, this guy needs another term.

00:56:10.000 Instead, the left, the progressives, they made videos saying Trump is an existential threat to America and we have to vote.

00:56:17.000 Well, he is if you're a warmongering, you know, international elite, bankster, supporting warmonger, whatever.

00:56:24.000 That's what we get.

00:56:25.000 So the people who are like, you know, the feminists on YouTube, the people who claim to be feminists were the ones saying we should elect the warmonger president with a corrupt son who was doing illicit business dealings in China and Ukraine.

00:56:37.000 And I'm just like, these people have become just overtly evil, overtly.

00:56:42.000 Not like Trump's core cult members are good people, but Donald Trump did such tremendous good.

00:56:48.000 I would rather the United States have internal problems than be blowing up kids in foreign countries. 1.00

00:56:55.000 Well, we definitely have internal problems, so you're winning on that one.

00:56:58.000 I'd rather, if it was one or the other, you bring these problems here, we can work to solve them.

00:56:58.000 No, no, no, no.

00:57:04.000 Tim, you gotta get some left-wingers in here to talk to you. 0.99

00:57:07.000 Well, so, shout out to Matt Bender, who has not emailed us yet.

00:57:10.000 I don't like thinking left and right, man.

00:57:12.000 If you create someone as the other, then they're not gonna... Unfortunately, that's what the conversation is.

00:57:16.000 It doesn't have to be, though.

00:57:17.000 Well, I agree, but...

00:57:19.000 Like, they got us in a psychological war.

00:57:21.000 This is intentional and it's been instantiated.

00:57:23.000 So if you get angry, you lose.

00:57:25.000 We got to stay calm and direct and focused and build things.

00:57:29.000 When we say left or right, again, it's literally just sphere of influence signifiers.

00:57:35.000 Like I said, we can call it group A, group B. Economically, I'm center left.

00:57:41.000 Now they don't care.

00:57:42.000 They say, haha, you know, Tim's lying.

00:57:44.000 Yeah, but there have to be some centrist We've had a couple. 0.98

00:57:48.000 We've had a couple.

00:57:49.000 That's the problem though.

00:57:50.000 Everybody's being, it's in the discourse, within the discourse.

00:57:54.000 There's no nuance.

00:57:55.000 It's like you either have to take this side or you take that side.

00:57:57.000 You're pro-Ukraine or you're pro-Russia.

00:57:59.000 Well, here's the question.

00:58:00.000 Do you believe it is an imperative in subjects of politics and news to tell the truth?

00:58:07.000 Yeah, what is truth?

00:58:08.000 That's right-wing.

00:58:10.000 The left believes there is no truth but power.

00:58:13.000 So there's a group called By Any Means Necessary.

00:58:17.000 They will write these things down.

00:58:18.000 They will tell you that the ends justify the means.

00:58:22.000 So what happens is, why won't a leftist come on this show, a left-winger?

00:58:27.000 Did Joe Biden engage in corrupt activities with his son in Ukraine?

00:58:31.000 The answer is a fact.

00:58:32.000 It's yes.

00:58:33.000 We know this through a series of court rulings, reporting, and sworn affidavits from people involved.

00:58:39.000 A prosecutor in Ukraine was fired because Joe Biden intervened and told the president to fire him.

00:58:43.000 Otherwise, he would illegally withhold U.S.

00:58:46.000 aid to Ukraine.

00:58:48.000 The prosecutor was investigating a company called Burisma, where Joe Biden's son was on the board, getting $83,000 a month.

00:58:55.000 These are facts.

00:58:56.000 Now, when I say that, they say, you're conservative.

00:58:58.000 And I'm like, I didn't say anything about abortion or taxes, and that doesn't matter.

00:59:02.000 And if you tell the truth, they don't come on the show.

00:59:05.000 Because if they do, we can show them the facts, and it's forcing them, with their audience in tow, to acknowledge that they were lying to their audience.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, but to continue talking us-them doesn't help anybody.

00:59:19.000 Well, I was just going to say that, you know, you said the left's consensus on truth is, like, truth is power.

00:59:27.000 I think it really did come out of, like, the counterculture movement of the 60s and 70s and post-World War II Europe, where, like, critical theory was this idea that modernity and all the institutions that have been built up around it were like, we need to reexamine this.

00:59:40.000 All of the great works that propelled Western civilization forward, all of these ideas about science, we need to question all of it.

00:59:48.000 And so critical theory is like, you know, the waves of feminism that we're talking about are successive waves of critiquing and critiquing.

00:59:55.000 And at a certain point, the critique becomes the mainstream.

00:59:58.000 So like, that's where we're at now.

01:00:01.000 I suppose my question is, why do you think it is you didn't know that Barack Obama ordered a drone strike on a civilian restaurant killing an American child?

01:00:10.000 I don't know, and I'm still listening with half an ear.

01:00:13.000 I don't know.

01:00:14.000 I think someone mentioned in the chat, and I saw it, that the issue is people aren't in the news.

01:00:21.000 For whatever reason, they're either not getting the information or they're choosing to avoid the information.

01:00:25.000 I certainly think CNN is just lying all the time, and we constantly have to debunk a lot of their lies.

01:00:31.000 I would say a good portion of CNN is actually good reporting.

01:00:35.000 What about Fox?

01:00:36.000 Do you think Fox tells the truth all the time?

01:00:38.000 I think Fox is... Are you talking about truth?

01:00:40.000 Absolutely.

01:00:41.000 Fox's news reporting, just like CNN's, tends to be actually really good.

01:00:45.000 Brett Baier and Bill Hammer do a really great job.

01:00:48.000 Tucker Carlson does a good job.

01:00:50.000 Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham are just particularly biased.

01:00:53.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:00:54.000 And Tucker's had his goofy segments where he's like, M&Ms aren't sexy or whatever.

01:00:59.000 Rachel Maddow, however, like for years just egged on insane conspiracy theories about Russia that were just so over the top and without basis. 0.97

01:01:08.000 Any rational person should have stopped for a moment and say, is this lady lying to me? 1.00

01:01:12.000 The thing about truth and honesty is if you believe something is real, but it's not, and you tell someone it's real, you're wrong, but you're not lying.

01:01:20.000 You don't because you're not intentionally deceiving them.

01:01:24.000 So a lot of people are just wrong because they haven't done the research or they haven't seen the research or it's been obfuscated from them or all the above.

01:01:30.000 So when Taylor Lorenz of the Washington Post She puts a direct link to the private home address of an individual in her story and then there's a backlash.

01:01:42.000 So the Washington Post removes it and then issues a public statement, statement, we did not link to private details.

01:01:49.000 An outright lie.

01:01:52.000 That is not wrong.

01:01:52.000 That is a lie because they removed it, which means they knew it was there, which means the statement after the fact is a provable lie.

01:02:00.000 And for whatever reason, these Democrat voter progressive activists, people like Matt Binder, who never emailed to come on the show even though he agreed to, just pretend like it's true.

01:02:10.000 Because these people are, they have the fascistic tenet, there is no truth but power.

01:02:16.000 And that's me citing the anarchist anthropologist, the late David Graeber.

01:02:19.000 So, what am I supposed to do?

01:02:21.000 I don't know.

01:02:21.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out.

01:02:23.000 You've always followed the traditional news sources, and we always have conversations where it's like, wait, what are you talking about?

01:02:29.000 What is this thing that's going on that's apparently a problem that I haven't heard about?

01:02:33.000 And it's because all of those corporate institutions that tell people what's going on in the world, it behooves them not to pay attention to those things that are upsetting to the status quo.

01:02:44.000 Well, the rules of the game have changed.

01:02:46.000 I mean, there aren't any rules anymore, it seems.

01:02:49.000 And it seems like the only people following the rules are what is colloquially known as the right. 0.71

01:02:49.000 Right. 0.71

01:02:54.000 But Richie, what did the New York Times say about you?

01:02:56.000 They called me a rioter.

01:02:57.000 That's right.

01:02:58.000 And they knew it wasn't true, right?

01:03:00.000 That he punched the door.

01:03:02.000 Yes, there's a longer story there, which I'll explain as I'm writing it down.

01:03:07.000 But basically what happened was that they took a photograph of me.

01:03:11.000 I have a certain appearance.

01:03:12.000 They assumed. 0.96

01:03:13.000 I look a little bit like a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal who would, you know, be like one of those, you know, Trump-supporting monkeys.

01:03:21.000 And so then they saw the photo of me after being pepper-sprayed and they, you know, took that surface level assumption but really if they had have looked you know even for 10 minutes they would have realized that they relied on my reporting in Kenosha so really what it was there is oh he's you know he's a rioter he's a Trump supporter we don't even need to do our due diligence because he's you know he just doesn't deserve and the photograph was taken in front of that you know that famous photo with the door punched that was shattered and they said who punched the door yeah so if they if I mean can you imagine my mom was so pissed she was like who is

01:03:55.000 Gimme that, guys!

01:03:57.000 Who's the photographer?

01:03:58.000 Gimme his email, I'm gonna gimme him.

01:04:01.000 I mean, I wrote a letter that night, and a good friend of mine talked me out of it, because it wouldn't have done Richie any good.

01:04:07.000 So there's something called the Gell-Mann amnesia effect.

01:04:10.000 This refers to when you encounter a news story that you know to be false, but then assume the news in other areas is telling the truth.

01:04:17.000 So you know what they said about your own son.

01:04:20.000 Now imagine what every story is like.

01:04:22.000 Why assume any of the other stories are true?

01:04:25.000 Well, again, I would prefer not to use these sweeping generalizations, Tim, but I, you know, I'm listening.

01:04:35.000 I just would like to figure out a way that there can be a more productive conversation.

01:04:41.000 I mean, I don't know that, you know, when I was marching in Washington, going to Arlington

01:04:48.000 Cemetery with—we carried coffins, and, you know, it was a very dramatic effort.

01:04:56.000 I'm not sure how many people we alienated and how many people we sort of corralled,

01:05:04.000 but there just doesn't seem to be any meeting of the ways anymore.

01:05:09.000 Well, the right certainly is trying, again, colloquially, whatever you want to call it.

01:05:16.000 We've certainly reached out to tons of people, and you have this meme, Ben Shapiro.

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 Or saying, debate me, debate me!

01:05:23.000 Because Ben Shapiro has consistently tried to have sit-down conversations with people on the left.

01:05:29.000 In fact... So it's true for him as well, you're saying?

01:05:29.000 They won't do it.

01:05:33.000 Oh, this is a known issue, right?

01:05:35.000 When Ben Shapiro went on this show, he was sitting next to a trans woman, and when he gave his opinion, the trans woman grabbed him and threatened to put him in the hospital.

01:05:43.000 Ben Shapiro still will invite people to come debate him.

01:05:49.000 To be fair, Ben told us, he's like, I don't ask for debates, I ask for conversations.

01:05:53.000 And if we argue, we argue.

01:05:54.000 They won't do it.

01:05:55.000 When he tried showing up to DePaul in Chicago, The police told him if he took one more step, he would be arrested because it's a safety risk.

01:06:03.000 These people have been burning down buildings to prevent conversations.

01:06:07.000 They threatened to burn down the theater where we were hosting our event because they wanted to stop.

01:06:13.000 And it worked.

01:06:14.000 The theater said, sue me, I don't care.

01:06:16.000 The damages I'd have to pay you are cheaper than me rebuilding my theater.

01:06:20.000 So we had to move the event because there's a certain level of threat and pressure that normal people cannot tolerate.

01:06:27.000 When Antifa is allowed to kill these Black Lives Matter rioters at Antifa, their rioting resulted in the death of between 26 and 32 people.

01:06:37.000 And Kamala Harris donated.

01:06:39.000 She solicited donations on Twitter to bail these people out of jail.

01:06:43.000 Joe Biden's staff member solicited donations, or actually gave donations to bail these people out.

01:06:48.000 When you have the January 17th rioters, I'm sorry, the January 20th rioters in 2017, Trump's inauguration, they torched a limo that belonged to an immigrant, they smashed a bunch of windows, and when the police arrested them, They all got off.

01:07:06.000 In fact, not only did they get off, they sued DC and won millions of dollars.

01:07:10.000 So now you have somebody who owns a venue and they get a phone call and they say, we're Antifa and you know what'll happen.

01:07:17.000 They'll say anything you say because the right isn't going to do this.

01:07:20.000 The police also won't stop Antifa.

01:07:23.000 But if a bunch of right-wingers go to the Capitol, they'll get a year in solitary confinement.

01:07:28.000 If you get 90 to 100 plus days of left-wing extremists firebombing a federal building in the Pacific Northwest, a handful of these people get charged for sure, but only the ones who really push the boundaries.

01:07:43.000 For the most part, it's like anybody who even walked in the building, you know, befuddled, are getting called a violent terrorist extremist and having their jobs destroyed.

01:07:53.000 A woman who didn't even go in had her home raided in Alaska. 1.00

01:07:56.000 It's very obvious that when, you know, Bubba, what was his name, Bubba Wallace?

01:08:00.000 Has 12 FBI gents, or however many, storm NASCAR over a garage pole rope, but you can't get the FBI to investigate, you know, very serious crimes like, you know, That we've seen with Antifa, then you have to wonder.

01:08:00.000 Yeah.

01:08:15.000 I want to keep that one a little vague, but I've had my dealings where we're wondering, like, why isn't, you know, with our security issues, where's law enforcement?

01:08:23.000 Like, there's an active investigation, maybe something will happen, but we've had death threats, we've had people call in fake police raids to this building eight times, and the bomb squad has shown up.

01:08:33.000 It's remarkable.

01:08:34.000 Don't you think the shoe is kind of on the other foot now, though?

01:08:37.000 Back in the 60s and 70s, it was all of these left-wing progressive groups that were being infiltrated by the authoritarian government.

01:08:46.000 It's not on the other foot.

01:08:47.000 I mean, well, my point is that now it's the, you know, that those groups aren't the ones that are representing the same existential threat.

01:08:58.000 Those people were pro-free speech, right?

01:09:00.000 And they were anti-war?

01:09:02.000 Which side is pro-free speech and anti-war right now?

01:09:04.000 So those who are for free speech, the rights of the people, who are for pushing back against corrupt corporate power and war, that would be described as, today, the right.

01:09:15.000 The left is, they're not protesting, I don't want to confuse that protest we saw in the chamber because that was debunked, but there are people outraged that DeSantis stripped Disney of their tax privileges.

01:09:28.000 A massive multinational corporation, the left is like, we should give tax cuts, these people should be allowed.

01:09:33.000 Ron DeSantis, what he's doing is wrong.

01:09:35.000 It's just like, why are you cheering for the corporations?

01:09:38.000 They're outraged that Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter, saying, oh no, we can't let billionaires get social media, but they've been defending these same billionaires for a decade, saying it's a private company, they can do what they want.

01:09:50.000 So I don't think, I think left and right are just Tribal signifiers.

01:09:56.000 We can call it up-down.

01:09:57.000 We can call it A-B. 0.76

01:09:57.000 We can call it left-right. 0.76

01:09:58.000 But it's not binary.

01:09:59.000 There's too many.

01:10:00.000 There's so many different people with so many different thoughts.

01:10:03.000 If someone thinks that they're another to you, particularly for you, if you're like, the left is horrible and that guy's a leftist, that guy's going to be like, well then, dude, I don't want to be near you if you're going to call me that.

01:10:13.000 I'm not.

01:10:13.000 Ian, I think you have an issue with trying to dissect for the sake of argument instead of actually engaging with the argument.

01:10:21.000 Well, I think this is a part of the reason why you're having trouble inviting certain people on.

01:10:25.000 If you predispose them as being part of this evil idea or group, then it's going to be a lot harder to get them to be like, okay, he's cool.

01:10:32.000 Well, you are very passionate about it, Tim.

01:10:35.000 It's true.

01:10:36.000 So when they post over, like the Young Turks, right?

01:10:40.000 They just make things up, right?

01:10:43.000 And I still, they literally do.

01:10:45.000 And then I don't engage with them.

01:10:47.000 And how often do I say, call out people's names and say them?

01:10:51.000 infrequently, maybe a couple times a week for...

01:10:54.000 I usually say I don't want to say their name.

01:10:56.000 I don't want to...

01:10:57.000 Minimize harm. 0.85

01:10:58.000 When I privately reach out to them, they just say screw off.

01:11:03.000 Look man, I think there's a reality that you don't want to acknowledge.

01:11:08.000 Because, for whatever reason, I don't know.

01:11:12.000 You say this all the time.

01:11:12.000 Like, oh, we can't say left or right.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, look, because Mao did it.

01:11:15.000 You really want to be like Mao?

01:11:16.000 You're in the position of Mao right now. 0.98

01:11:18.000 That's a ridiculous reductionism. 0.95

01:11:18.000 You have that power. 0.95

01:11:20.000 You have a cultural revolution of people that are listening to you right now.

01:11:23.000 And Ian, right?

01:11:24.000 See, what you're doing right now is you're creating a false argument.

01:11:28.000 No, I'm very serious.

01:11:30.000 This internet technology is insanely powerful.

01:11:31.000 A bad guy did a thing, so if you do that thing, it's the same thing.

01:11:33.000 No, you have that cultural power that he had.

01:11:36.000 You have more power than he had.

01:11:38.000 I did not create the idea of leftists existing.

01:11:42.000 No, no, no, that was a French Revolution thing, but it's up to you, man.

01:11:44.000 Your words are like convincing people.

01:11:48.000 So, your issue is, once again, semantics.

01:11:52.000 Definitely.

01:11:52.000 That's it.

01:11:53.000 Or literology, whatever you want to call it.

01:11:54.000 We should move on.

01:11:55.000 I don't want to waste time arguing the definitions of words that don't actually add to the conversation.

01:11:59.000 I'm saying if you divide people, then we're going to be living in a divided society.

01:12:04.000 But if you unite people, then we will be united.

01:12:06.000 How do you unite people?

01:12:08.000 By dispensing with these false paradigms, these false dichotomies.

01:12:11.000 Left and right, A and B, up and down.

01:12:13.000 People aren't black and white.

01:12:15.000 Doesn't unwrap.

01:12:16.000 Well, we're in a paradigm shift, right?

01:12:18.000 So like some of our definitions of things like left and right, Republican and Democrat are changing.

01:12:23.000 And so I think a byproduct of that is always going to be some degree of uncomfortability where people are like, oh, I'm outside of my comfort zone.

01:12:29.000 This isn't exactly the way that I grew up that I knew everything to be.

01:12:32.000 So, like, on the one hand, you're saying, oh, we can't be using these terms because it kind of casts people in these, whatever, antiquated boxes.

01:12:40.000 But also, if you don't use words, then how can you communicate, you know, any kind of ideas, like, about these political, you know, ideas?

01:12:49.000 Like, you have to put them somewhere.

01:12:51.000 So, like, what would be your solution there?

01:12:52.000 I think a lot of it is communicating with emotions instead of logic.

01:12:59.000 Keep talking.

01:12:59.000 How does that happen?

01:13:00.000 Like, you know, you gotta kind of understand people and listen to them as they are without labeling them.

01:13:06.000 It's tempting to want to put people in boxes so that you can understand them maybe better, but it's just about calming people down, really.

01:13:11.000 Here, I made a picture.

01:13:12.000 There you go.

01:13:12.000 Nice.

01:13:14.000 Beautiful.

01:13:15.000 Magnetic field.

01:13:16.000 It's a butt crack.

01:13:17.000 No, it's a left and a right.

01:13:19.000 We'll turn it sideways.

01:13:21.000 Now what is it?

01:13:21.000 The up and the down.

01:13:23.000 I'll rip it in half.

01:13:24.000 What is it then?

01:13:24.000 It doesn't matter what you want to call it.

01:13:26.000 The point is, what I'm showing you here is there's many different lines, and there's many different points.

01:13:31.000 And they're all very far away from each other.

01:13:33.000 But some of them, there's still a very clear split between the two groups.

01:13:38.000 But you'll notice in the middle, they overlap a little bit.

01:13:40.000 The point is, using terms like left and right, as I often say, are not absolute, which you seem to think they are.

01:13:48.000 It's a description of the spheres of influence that exist and have a slight merger at the point where there's some, you know, maybe, what do they call it, the stressed sideliners, what Pew Research called them.

01:14:02.000 For the most part, however, everyone seems to fall on one side either by 0.1 degrees or by 100 degrees.

01:14:09.000 The fact remains, left and right are simply things we use to describe the umbrellas that surround the two different parent factions.

01:14:19.000 I thought Thomas Massey came on the show a few months ago and he was pretty said something pretty profound where he said in the back of like the chamber where the Congress hangs out there's two dressing rooms specifically like they built it to have two political parties.

01:14:32.000 They do not want more than that.

01:14:33.000 They want to maintain this uniparty of duality by keeping people like wild animals.

01:14:39.000 It's like sports.

01:14:40.000 They want to be like two teams trying to win.

01:14:42.000 Well it's an easy way to have a huge democracy where people have the air of you know things going back and forth when in reality They're not.

01:14:49.000 It's like people think that they, you know, represent, oh, this side's fighting for me, but then in reality, it's just two sides that are basically going in the same direction.

01:14:49.000 So here's what happens.

01:14:58.000 So right now, leftists are posting fake tweets and fake quotes from me that say things like, Tim Poole has called for the death of this person, or that dude the other day on Tim's show, he was saying that people need to go out and get violent against this group of people.

01:15:17.000 And they believe it.

01:15:19.000 Of course, that never happened.

01:15:20.000 Right?

01:15:21.000 So what happens is the people in that sphere of influence now typically believe these things.

01:15:26.000 And it's really remarkable when, for some reason, conservatives think I'm an atheist, which I've never said, and people on the left claim that I'm a far-right religious conservative, which I've also never claimed.

01:15:38.000 But a fair point, from your perspective, if you want to think I'm more religious because I do believe in God.

01:15:43.000 But when they say things like, You know, Tim believes this thing about taxes.

01:15:47.000 And I'm like, every time I've talked about taxes, I've talked about, like, the need for higher tax brackets and a stronger progressive tax on the wealthy.

01:15:54.000 Even Steve Bannon has said, tax the rich.

01:15:56.000 But they'll lie and make fake quotes, and then in that sphere of influence, which is absolutely split between two parent umbrellas, they all believe that.

01:16:06.000 So when I get into a conversation with someone on the left, which I recently did, He said something like, You're pro-doxing, Tim.

01:16:13.000 You would absolutely dox Antifa at a moment's notice.

01:16:15.000 I know what you right-wingers do.

01:16:17.000 What does that mean, doxy?

01:16:19.000 Docs means to publish the private details of an individual, like their phone number, their home, their name.

01:16:24.000 And I said, no, I actually have a huge policy against that.

01:16:27.000 And I often avoid saying names on my show to prevent what's called a brigade when everyone targets an individual.

01:16:34.000 And he was like, no, I heard you say, he's like, I remember during Occupy Wall Street, you were trying to film people's faces and publish their names.

01:16:42.000 And I said, that never happened.

01:16:44.000 He goes, yes, it did.

01:16:45.000 Everybody knows it because they lied and made these things up.

01:16:48.000 What really happened is during Occupy Wall Street, I was walking down the street and I saw three people wearing masks deflating police tires.

01:16:56.000 And I was filming.

01:16:58.000 So they attacked me.

01:16:59.000 And I said, transparency is what matters.

01:17:01.000 If something is happening in public, I'm going to film it.

01:17:04.000 If you don't want your identity revealed, wear a mask.

01:17:08.000 So what they did was, okay, that's a tenet most people would actually agree with.

01:17:12.000 If you are in the public and you are causing damage, we have a right to know what you're doing for whatever cause.

01:17:18.000 You can wear a mask if you want to protect your identity.

01:17:20.000 But if you're in public during a protest doing these things, people will see you do it.

01:17:24.000 What grounds do you have to violently assault on someone who happens to have a camera?

01:17:28.000 Knowing that they have no winning argument, they changed it and just lied and said Tim Pool was trying to take their masks off and publish their names.

01:17:37.000 Interesting discussion.

01:17:38.000 And they also, the official Occupy Wall Street account tweeted, Tim Pool just tried to arrest someone, which was an outright lie.

01:17:46.000 And it was so egregious that one of the other activist groups matches them and said, take that down now.

01:17:52.000 Like you went too far and they had to remove it.

01:17:54.000 That's what happens when you have control of the discourse.

01:17:56.000 Right.

01:17:56.000 Is you can propagate whatever you want and it won't, you know, like you were saying with Barack Obama blowing up an American citizen and not being properly reported on why my mom didn't know about it.

01:18:08.000 It's like I was working at NBC during Obama, the end of Obama's second term, and it was like the degree to which, you know, these people had gotten their jobs in the White House press corps specifically because they asked all the right questions.

01:18:19.000 You ask a question about that drone blowing up that American citizen in that White House briefing, you can say goodbye to asking any more questions to the, you know, the press secretary.

01:18:27.000 So it's like after 40 years of us going like, you know, kind of in the same direction, left or right, didn't matter because you had this institution of the media that was just wasn't going to question it.

01:18:37.000 Well, let me ask you a question.

01:18:39.000 You asked me about whether Fox News was was honest.

01:18:43.000 Do you think Fox News is dishonest?

01:18:47.000 I don't believe anybody. 0.94

01:18:49.000 That's a dumb answer, but I think Fox News, in the same way that CNN, I think everybody exaggerates. 0.98

01:18:58.000 Everything is hyperbolic. 0.99

01:19:00.000 Even that statement was hyperbolic.

01:19:04.000 There's a really great tweet that actually they never let me pull up anymore because I think Instagram got rid of it.

01:19:09.000 Maybe because it's a little bit too close to exposing what's actually going on.

01:19:13.000 Let me see if I can pull it up.

01:19:14.000 There is an image that I posted showing two televisions.

01:19:19.000 One has CBS and one has Fox News.

01:19:22.000 It was when Gordon Sondland was testifying in the Ukrainegate scandal to impeach Donald Trump.

01:19:29.000 In his statement, he said, there was no quid pro quo, but I felt like there was one.

01:19:37.000 So CBS reports Sondland confirms quid pro quo.

01:19:42.000 Fox News, quote, Sondland, no quid pro quo.

01:19:46.000 The reality is that the Fox News statement was the correct statement because the opinion of someone and how they thought or felt is immaterial to what was actually occurring at the time.

01:19:55.000 Yet people who watched that network Uh, well, they believe fake news.

01:20:00.000 Let me see if I can find it.

01:20:02.000 Whenever I try to pull it up on the show, it doesn't let me.

01:20:05.000 What was it like when Kennedy, I mean, you were pretty young, but like with Kennedy, you know, was he like a transformative, like, did he upset the discourse and kind of half the country in the same way that Trump did?

01:20:16.000 Yes, mostly because he was a Catholic.

01:20:18.000 And because he was young.

01:20:21.000 So on the right, Fox News, quote, I want nothing.

01:20:24.000 Sondland confirms Trump told him no quid pro quo on the left.

01:20:28.000 This is CBS Evening News.

01:20:29.000 Sondland confirms quid pro quo.

01:20:31.000 That's wild.

01:20:32.000 But Fox News was right.

01:20:34.000 I want nothing was a quote. Donald Trump was quoted as saying no quid pro quo and all Sandlin said was you know

01:20:40.000 But I kind of felt like there was one I'm like, okay Well, what you feel is not material to a legal proceeding.

01:20:46.000 Yeah, the colors are even blue and red It makes me think of football.

01:20:50.000 That's what they got us doing.

01:20:51.000 They're making us play political football with each other.

01:20:53.000 But who was against the Iraq war and the WMD narrative at that time?

01:20:57.000 CNN and MSNBC were just as on board as Fox.

01:20:59.000 And that's what we were talking about earlier, which is like, there is a certain, you know, No go zone, and it's politically incorrect to not, you know, you can't mention anything about anything other than pro-Ukraine.

01:21:13.000 Same thing during the Iraq war, which was like, if you're, if you support the hijackers on 9-11, then sure, you might question the Iraq war, but otherwise, you know, and there was such a fear from people in the public eye.

01:21:24.000 I remember sitting with dad, like switching between the channels and being like, yeah, look, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, they all say the same thing about the war.

01:21:31.000 You know, why is that?

01:21:32.000 Because like you said, the left used to be anti-war.

01:21:35.000 Yeah, Luke Rutkowski did phenomenal work about 9-11, and all sorts of evidence that the war in Afghanistan was full of it. 0.99

01:21:41.000 All this evidence that it wasn't what the mainstream media told us, the buildings fall in freaking free fall, it looks like sometimes, and like... No, Ian, you're unqualified.

01:21:50.000 Even people like Tim has to yell out, or chooses to yell out against, but it's like, how honest can you be on this?

01:21:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:21:54.000 No, because I don't like to say things you don't know.

01:21:56.000 I just watched a long documentary on it.

01:21:58.000 Can I go back to feminism for a minute? 1.00

01:22:00.000 I want to hear what Lydia has to say because You are of a much younger generation than me and how do you perceive feminism in your generation? 1.00

01:22:00.000 Yeah, absolutely. 1.00

01:22:12.000 So feminism kind of breaks my heart because I think that most of the women in my generation have been lied to. 1.00

01:22:17.000 I think they've been used politically and I think that they're told lies to make them feel good about themselves.

01:22:23.000 Earlier today I was looking at A tweet from a feminist and she was she compared two different screenshots of a Twitch title.

01:22:30.000 She tried to title one something like women are bad and she wasn't allowed to use it. 1.00

01:22:34.000 What is Twitch?

01:22:35.000 Twitch is a streaming service.

01:22:36.000 Yeah, so they very carefully monitor what you use for titles.

01:22:39.000 She tried to put in the title women are bad and Twitch did not allow it. 1.00

01:22:43.000 She tried to put in the title men are bad. 0.96

01:22:44.000 That was fine.

01:22:45.000 I've done the same thing with Instagram.

01:22:47.000 I made a tweet about how or I commented on Instagram that I thought that modern women were like lost and Instagram immediately took my comment down.

01:22:54.000 I made the same comment about men.

01:22:56.000 As far as I know, it's still up.

01:22:57.000 Nothing happened.

01:22:58.000 It's really weird, but women think that everybody's on their side and they feel like they're winning this war, but at the same time, they're being introduced like transgender athletes and men are kind of taking over these things that were once sacred spaces of women, like these spas where women are being exposed to men in their locker rooms and all these strange, weird, gross assaults are happening. 0.79

01:23:22.000 And they're like, oh, it's fine.

01:23:23.000 We're being inclusive.

01:23:24.000 We're going to go along with it because we're nice and we're friendly and everyone's nice to us.

01:23:28.000 I think that people have really taken advantage of women's caring, compassionate, safety oriented nature to get the better of them and to get their political aims through.

01:23:37.000 So this means things like opening the border.

01:23:40.000 This means things like bringing people in from other countries instead of focusing on the people who live here first and foremost. 0.90

01:23:47.000 It seems to me like Jordan Peterson talks about how we've never before seen Feminine political pathology.

01:23:53.000 We've seen masculine political pathology. 0.99

01:23:55.000 That's when we go to war.

01:23:56.000 That's when things get wild and crazy and bellicose.

01:23:59.000 But we haven't seen the feminine form.

01:24:01.000 And I think this is what we're seeing.

01:24:03.000 And I think it's a different kind of sickness that we don't really know how to handle, just because it is so new.

01:24:08.000 And I think this might be one of the things that kind of disorients you about it, because I think that's what underpins a lot of the problems we see now.

01:24:16.000 And like when we talk about, you know, feminists want to go to war or whatever, it's true that it's not all feminists, but it's the loudest ones. 0.99

01:24:23.000 These are the ones who get attention.

01:24:25.000 They've got the Ukrainian flag in their Twitter bio and they are out there saying, we have to defend these poor children, even though it's in the best interest of Americans to stay out of that.

01:24:35.000 Do you know the Greek, I don't know if it's a play, it's called Lysistrata.

01:24:40.000 I don't know if it's Euripides.

01:24:42.000 The women, in order to get the men from stop fighting, they just stopped having sex with the men. 1.00

01:24:47.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 And that was their power.

01:24:50.000 They say that women are the neck that turns the head. 1.00

01:24:50.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:52.000 And this is true.

01:24:53.000 Women have a kind of soft power that influences cultures. 1.00

01:24:57.000 And I feel like there are Kind of like dark forces that have kind of manipulated that so that they get women to do what they want by being nice, by being friendly, by saying, we're going to protect queer kids.

01:25:09.000 We're going to make sure that everyone's safe.

01:25:11.000 We're going to bring all these people into our country. 1.00

01:25:14.000 And because women aren't having children and they don't have their own families to defend anymore, they're like, you know what? 1.00

01:25:19.000 That's a great idea.

01:25:19.000 Let's do it.

01:25:20.000 I had this maternal instinct and nowhere to direct it.

01:25:23.000 And I think that's kind of what we're seeing.

01:25:25.000 It's pretty sad.

01:25:26.000 Aristophanes wrote Lysistrata.

01:25:26.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:25:28.000 Oh, cool.

01:25:29.000 So is that your free love movement that screwed over the women in the long run? 1.00

01:25:33.000 Because that, I mean, what Lydia just, what you just mentioned in the play is, you know, women using the power that they have as women, which is as the gatekeepers to sex and the free love movement got rid of that. 1.00

01:25:50.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:25:52.000 Do you think people who are not citizens of the United States should be allowed to vote in our elections?

01:25:56.000 Oh my god.

01:25:56.000 I think no.

01:25:58.000 So if someone isn't a citizen of the U.S.

01:26:04.000 Is Tim setting me up here?

01:26:08.000 Should non-citizens be allowed to vote in our elections? 1.00

01:26:11.000 I don't think so.

01:26:12.000 So you're conservative?

01:26:14.000 Welcome!

01:26:17.000 I think I am.

01:26:19.000 I'm getting more and more conservative, I must say.

01:26:23.000 I think it's fair to say that the modern intersectional feminist movement wants non-citizens to vote. 1.00

01:26:28.000 So this is all very disturbing to me.

01:26:32.000 Well, here's the New York Times.

01:26:32.000 It's a lot.

01:26:33.000 There is no good reason you should have to be a citizen to vote.

01:26:36.000 I can easily pull up tons of these.

01:26:38.000 I think that's the perfect example, though.

01:26:40.000 The example that Tim just gave, which is the fear that I think, you know, like a lot of our generation has, like a lot of my peers is like, Oh, okay.

01:26:48.000 Unless I'm following the current thing, unless I'm up to date on where I should be on feminism and the war in Ukraine, if I say the wrong thing, then they're going to call me right-winger.

01:26:57.000 And that's the worst thing that can be called pejoratively in polite societies.

01:27:01.000 But don't you think there's something to taking all of this seriously?

01:27:06.000 I don't take that seriously.

01:27:08.000 You lose if you take it seriously.

01:27:10.000 No, no, no.

01:27:11.000 In New York, they have granted the right of non-citizens to vote in New York City.

01:27:15.000 We have this non-citizen voting rights gain traction as immigrants vote in an SF Unified School Board recall.

01:27:20.000 When you don't take it seriously, it happens.

01:27:21.000 And it is happening.

01:27:22.000 Yeah, but don't let it upset you, I guess is what I meant to say.

01:27:24.000 Well, I don't know.

01:27:25.000 I mean, we also had this rank voting in New York City.

01:27:30.000 Rank choice.

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:32.000 Which totally manipulated the vote, in my opinion, because it diluted the numbers of votes for whomever, you know, might have won, in my opinion.

01:27:43.000 Well, I like ranked choice voting.

01:27:45.000 It's not perfect, but the way it works is you say, you know, if there's four candidates, you number them.

01:27:50.000 I just, I don't normally have a rank for my, I just want one guy or another.

01:27:50.000 Yeah.

01:27:56.000 Well, you only get one.

01:27:57.000 Yeah, I know.

01:27:58.000 But if you're ranking them and that guy didn't get enough votes, then the other guy gets it because there were enough votes.

01:28:05.000 And if he didn't have that, then it would have been a pure voice, a more pure voice.

01:28:11.000 Well, the issue is, you know, Trump and Hillary in 2016.

01:28:15.000 Right.

01:28:15.000 the most some of the most despised candidates in history.

01:28:19.000 Everybody basically was like I don't want either but if I don't vote for this

01:28:21.000 one I'll get the other one. With rank-choice voting you say yeah well I don't

01:28:25.000 want Hillary so I'll give Trump number you know two but I really want Ron 0.97

01:28:29.000 Paul so you know if Ron Paul doesn't get it at least Trump will win. So it

01:28:33.000 prevents to a certain degree you know voting against people. But it is important.

01:28:38.000 There's a lot of pitfalls in rank choice voting for similar reasons.

01:28:41.000 All it does is kind of, it pulls down the spire a little bit.

01:28:44.000 But what we've been seeing now in the United States is, I mean, Title 42, the borders in total disaster.

01:28:52.000 The country that millennials have inherited, I would just call a rubble-filled wasteland. 1.00

01:28:57.000 And I mean that figuratively.

01:28:58.000 Obviously, we're extremely wealthy.

01:28:59.000 We have morbidly obese homeless people.

01:29:01.000 Things aren't all that bad.

01:29:02.000 But millennials are certainly dealing with extreme crises.

01:29:06.000 The generation that brought about the millennials controls a disproportionate amount of wealth relative to prior generations.

01:29:17.000 They're laden with debt because we were all told by our parents, you have to get $100,000 in debt to go to school. 0.98

01:29:24.000 I was lucky enough to be like, nah, I'm not that stupid. 0.96

01:29:26.000 I won't fall for that. 0.74

01:29:27.000 So now you have millennials who are just saddled with debt It is predatory interest rates where people who have taken out a $20,000 loan are now, 10 years later, they've paid back $50,000 and they owe $100,000.

01:29:40.000 Just really ridiculous numbers.

01:29:41.000 I mean, that's probably a microcosm. 0.95

01:29:42.000 Yeah, it's pretty extreme.

01:29:43.000 You'll get like 20 out 20 years ago, you'll owe like $38,000 at this point, or something like that.

01:29:48.000 So you owe substantially more than you borrowed, and you've paid back substantially more than you borrowed.

01:29:53.000 These are predatory.

01:29:54.000 And then so what's happening now is millennials, Basically indentured servants in many, many ways are looking at the boomer generation who own all this property and keep buying it up and they can't move.

01:30:07.000 So they're getting more and more extreme.

01:30:09.000 They've dealt with two major economic crises, 2008 and now the pandemic.

01:30:13.000 Inflation is through the roof.

01:30:14.000 There's food shortages.

01:30:15.000 You know, the millennial generation is probably ready to just burst at the seams. 0.97

01:30:18.000 Yeah, Mark, give me something.

01:30:19.000 Give me a little something.

01:30:22.000 What did you think, Tina, when the war on terror began after September 11th?

01:30:24.000 What do you think Tina when the war on terror began after September 11th, what did you see change?

01:30:30.000 Everything went to hell after that Well, 9-11 was so terrible.

01:30:38.000 She was on her way into the city.

01:30:40.000 I had surgery two days after 9-11.

01:30:44.000 I told my parents that I thought something bad was going to happen for the month leading up to 9-11.

01:30:50.000 And it turned out that they had found out my mom had lung cancer.

01:30:55.000 Heavy smoker.

01:30:56.000 They scheduled the surgery, so I picked up on their negative energy.

01:31:01.000 And then on 9-11, she was going in on 9-12 for the surgery. 0.99

01:31:04.000 So on 9-11, they sat us all down in the afternoon.

01:31:07.000 We all got home from school and we were like, is mom okay?

01:31:09.000 She's going into the city.

01:31:10.000 Oh, she's fine.

01:31:11.000 They're like, your mom has lung cancer.

01:31:11.000 They sit us down.

01:31:12.000 She's going into the city tomorrow for surgery.

01:31:14.000 We're like, this is the worst day ever.

01:31:16.000 Like you guys got 9-11 and then you give us cancer like on top of it.

01:31:20.000 What are you, what are you doing?

01:31:23.000 You didn't plan it that way.

01:31:24.000 I was fortunate, I guess, to be 21 when that happened and to see the difference between the world before and the world after.

01:31:31.000 I never trusted any of it.

01:31:33.000 I mean, after 9-11.

01:31:35.000 Me neither.

01:31:35.000 I didn't trust a bit of it.

01:31:36.000 The kids that are born after 9-11 are born thinking that it's normal to be at war across the ocean, and I think that's twisted people beyond measure.

01:31:43.000 Yeah, I don't think of it that way, but I guess that's true. 1.00

01:31:46.000 It changes everybody's perspective.

01:31:49.000 And that's why when Joe Biden is running against Trump, the majority of the youth vote goes Democratic, for the ones that do vote, because they're like, I don't know, war's normal, right?

01:32:00.000 So when Trump's like, let's stop the war, they're like, no, why should we change that?

01:32:04.000 We like getting free oil by, you know, blowing up kids, right?

01:32:08.000 I think that's something.

01:32:09.000 That's definitely something to it.

01:32:11.000 You're born into it.

01:32:12.000 You don't care.

01:32:13.000 So, you know, I remember My grandpa was talking about social security numbers, and he was saying how back in the day, you didn't have to get one until you were like, when they first implemented, people were outraged.

01:32:24.000 Like, I'm going to register a number with the government? 0.92

01:32:26.000 Are you nuts? 0.98

01:32:27.000 And then it was like, well, you don't need one until you're 16. 0.98

01:32:30.000 Then it was like, well, you got to get it when you're five.

01:32:32.000 Now it's when you're born, you have one.

01:32:33.000 When kids are born into that system, they're just like, I don't know, whatever.

01:32:36.000 We all have these things.

01:32:37.000 So these kids are born into a world of a war.

01:32:41.000 And some of these kids are born in like 08, right?

01:32:43.000 So you've got kids who are teenagers who were born years after the war started, still in it.

01:32:48.000 And so then you get Donald Trump being like, I'm going to end this.

01:32:50.000 And they're like, why do I care?

01:32:52.000 Yeah, the anti-war, the sentiment of anti-war has slipped.

01:32:56.000 Well, it's not the same.

01:32:59.000 It just isn't the same as it ever was.

01:33:01.000 In Vietnam, they implanted journalists in with the soldiers and you would see guys getting carried out on stretchers and just the most vile stuff.

01:33:07.000 And that was like, that was enough to bring about the consciousness to end that thing.

01:33:10.000 But here they just have dudes like riding on tanks with a flag, waving a flag and be like, we're going to Baghdad.

01:33:15.000 They don't see the doors getting kicked in, the people getting...

01:33:19.000 Annihilated by the troops, which is what also what was happening It's been hidden from the people Man, I want to put body cameras and help helmet cams on soldiers live stream it I think people need to share this show with their parents Because, you know, I was hanging out with a good friend of mine over the holidays whose parents were totally in disbelief at even the most basic things I could say, like, Victor Shokin, the prosecutor in Ukraine, was fired because Joe Biden threatened to withhold illegally U.S.

01:33:48.000 aid to Ukraine, so the president intervened on Joe Biden's behalf.

01:33:51.000 And Joe Biden likely did this, in my opinion, because Victor Shokin was investigating a company called Burisma, where Joe Biden's son, Hunter, was on the board, earning $83,000 a month.

01:33:59.000 And they go, that's all true?

01:34:00.000 And I'm like, yeah, I can show you all the documents.

01:34:03.000 I can show you the court rulings.

01:34:04.000 I can show you the sworn affidavit from Victor Shokin saying outright Joe Biden did this.

01:34:09.000 And they're like, but CNN said that was fake news.

01:34:11.000 It's like, well, maybe you should stop watching CNN.

01:34:14.000 Well, I think there should be a lot more conversation among the generations, you know, like this.

01:34:19.000 Yes.

01:34:20.000 Mom's been having, she's been having like, just like not a red pill, but just like, just like, you know, how like you have a pill with little granules in there, like one granule a day.

01:34:29.000 Microdosing.

01:34:30.000 Microdosing red pills.

01:34:32.000 I love it.

01:34:33.000 Do you remember Biden in 88 when he got caught plagiarizing and resigned?

01:34:37.000 Were you familiar with that at all?

01:34:38.000 He ran for president and then they were like, oh, he's plagiarizing.

01:34:40.000 Then they chose Dukakis over him.

01:34:42.000 That's great.

01:34:44.000 No, 88, I was in the midst of having three sons.

01:34:48.000 I didn't know anything about it.

01:34:49.000 I dropped out of pretty much everything else.

01:34:51.000 Actually, real quick, can you tell the commute story about your commute?

01:34:56.000 Well, this was just, it's like kind of the way that I wanted to handle, I didn't know how to handle working and having children.

01:35:06.000 And I had been in my job for eight years and My son, Richie's older brother, he was born after 11 years of marriage.

01:35:18.000 I didn't want to leave my baby and I didn't want to quit my job.

01:35:23.000 I commuted from Connecticut.

01:35:29.000 Richie's dad bought me a Volvo for my birthday and I put the baby in the car and took him to New York with me.

01:35:36.000 Had a babysitter at the office who met me, handed him over in the garage, and occupied a space in my office building for his nursery.

01:35:49.000 And every night I'd stop at this, I think it was like a Bulgarian deli on the way, and bought two Heinekens.

01:35:57.000 I strapped the baby in and strapped myself in and drank two beers.

01:36:02.000 No, he had a car seat.

01:36:04.000 Oh, he had a car seat.

01:36:06.000 Well, I was drinking two beers and smoking six, but I've got a car seat.

01:36:10.000 And that's how I got through, you know, the first three years of his life.

01:36:14.000 Do you remember it?

01:36:16.000 No, that was George.

01:36:17.000 That's why I turned out fine.

01:36:19.000 That's why you're such an angel.

01:36:20.000 I just got an idea.

01:36:24.000 I think I want to hire maybe like five people to go petition in like New York or Chicago or LA.

01:36:32.000 And the petition would be for international immunity for Barack Obama over the extrajudicial assassination of a 16-year-old American citizen.

01:36:41.000 And they would say, well, look, you know, Obama did this, but we're looking for support to say that he should be immune from prosecution.

01:36:48.000 And try and get him to sign it.

01:36:50.000 We should film it.

01:36:51.000 It'll be fun.

01:36:51.000 We'll put it on YouTube.

01:36:52.000 That'd be a lot more effective than getting angry.

01:36:55.000 Yeah, that's a pretty good idea.

01:36:56.000 Excuse me, sir.

01:36:57.000 Do you have a moment?

01:36:57.000 We're trying to help Barack Obama.

01:36:59.000 I know you're like, well, he's a fan.

01:37:00.000 You're a fan.

01:37:01.000 Yes, you are.

01:37:01.000 Come here.

01:37:02.000 You voted for Biden, right?

01:37:03.000 Check this out.

01:37:03.000 Of course you did.

01:37:04.000 So back in, you know, the Obama era, Barack Obama ordered what's called an extrajudicial assassination.

01:37:13.000 Now, this was when a drone went to Yemen and blew up a civilian restaurant.

01:37:19.000 Now, there was a 16-year-old American citizen in that restaurant who died named Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.

01:37:25.000 We want to make sure that, moving forward, that Barack Obama will not be charged with war crimes or crimes in the United States, because, I mean, you know, killing U.S.

01:37:35.000 citizens is illegal, so we're hoping you would sign this document. 0.61

01:37:38.000 I wonder what people would say.

01:37:39.000 We could also maybe get Biden immunity from his sexual assault allegations against Tara Reid when he was younger.

01:37:46.000 That's a better one.

01:37:48.000 Yes.

01:37:48.000 Funded.

01:37:49.000 Who wants to do the show? 0.97

01:37:49.000 Funded. 0.97

01:37:50.000 We used to do those all the time, like Man on the Streets during the Trump years, which is like you read a bunch of Obama quotes, you know, because the things have swung so far left that you read a bunch of Obama quotes and you say, what do you think about what Trump said?

01:38:02.000 And then, you know, they say it's terrible.

01:38:04.000 And then you say, actually, Barack Obama said that.

01:38:05.000 Right.

01:38:06.000 But this one will be funny because it'll be a guy wearing a vest and it'll be called like, you know, defend the Dems and it'll be like, hi, I've got a petition here.

01:38:13.000 We want to make sure Obama is immune from prosecution for the 16 year old that he murdered.

01:38:17.000 Please sign here.

01:38:18.000 And they'll be like, I don't want to, I don't, I don't know.

01:38:22.000 I don't know if I should sign that and be like, well, you're not a fascist, are you?

01:38:26.000 Well, who's the last, like, true anti-war president, then?

01:38:29.000 Carter.

01:38:31.000 Before Carter?

01:38:32.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:38:34.000 Yeah, and people really didn't like it when the gas went missing, you know?

01:38:38.000 The gask?

01:38:39.000 Gas.

01:38:40.000 The gas went missing.

01:38:41.000 I don't know about that one.

01:38:42.000 The whole waiting in line for gas.

01:38:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:44.000 That's a problem.

01:38:46.000 So they were like, go back to war!

01:38:47.000 Blow up people so we can get their oil!

01:38:50.000 Let's go to Super Chats and read what the audience has to say.

01:38:55.000 Very many people who have commented.

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01:39:02.000 If you would like to support our work, check out our episode yesterday with Lauren Southern, where she is wielding a sword and we talk about getting pizza in the outback.

01:39:11.000 Cool.

01:39:11.000 It's actually really cool.

01:39:13.000 Like the middle of Australia, where it's a desert, there's like people living underground and they have like pizza joints.

01:39:18.000 I want to go.

01:39:20.000 Alright.

01:39:21.000 Penumbra Syndicate says, Moons Haunted, can we get a Nuke the Moon shirt?

01:39:26.000 Absolutely.

01:39:27.000 If Jessica is listening, let's get a Nuke the Moon shirt. 1.00

01:39:30.000 We're working on the Chicken City shirts, and so far we have a Roberto, and it looks really good.

01:39:37.000 Jessica's amazing, our graphic designer and artist, and she made a bunch of different cartoon versions of our rooster.

01:39:45.000 And my favorite one has him as a triangle, and I posted on Instagram.

01:39:48.000 We're not going to use it because I'm like, it's out of line with the cartoons we're doing, but it's hilarious.

01:39:54.000 It's like a hilarious little rooster cartoon.

01:39:55.000 I love it.

01:39:57.000 Maybe we have to use it, I'd love it too much.

01:39:58.000 Roberto is kind of like, he's like that jacked guy who's got a huge upper body and he walks around like that.

01:40:04.000 Why do you call him Roberto?

01:40:05.000 What is it?

01:40:06.000 Roberto.

01:40:07.000 Oh, Roberto.

01:40:08.000 Roberto.

01:40:09.000 Robert-o.

01:40:09.000 Yeah.

01:40:11.000 Say Roberto.

01:40:12.000 Roberto.

01:40:13.000 Roberto.

01:40:14.000 He can't do it.

01:40:14.000 Yeah.

01:40:15.000 He can't do it.

01:40:17.000 All right, cap pieces.

01:40:18.000 I'm going to kick him out of power anyway, so.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:40:21.000 Oh, Roberto attacked him.

01:40:22.000 He did?

01:40:22.000 Uh-oh.

01:40:23.000 He smelled you coming.

01:40:24.000 I tried to do the coop.

01:40:26.000 Yeah, he attacked me.

01:40:26.000 And then Richie came back with the Hylian Shield.

01:40:28.000 Yep.

01:40:29.000 From The Legend of Zelda.

01:40:30.000 And he was terrified.

01:40:30.000 Yeah, he was.

01:40:31.000 Now I know how.

01:40:32.000 Cat P says, down with Roberto, all hail the rise of Richie.

01:40:36.000 There we go.

01:40:37.000 And if I have to take it by force, I will.

01:40:40.000 Oh boy.

01:40:40.000 This is war.

01:40:42.000 All right.

01:40:42.000 The Curly Afro says, Ian, the love you have to end the Fed needs to change.

01:40:47.000 Instead, pay closer attention to the Bank of Japan.

01:40:49.000 Literally the most consequential bank in the world, the Japanese yen is nearly in free fall.

01:40:54.000 Check out the Forex chart.

01:40:55.000 Interesting.

01:40:56.000 That's cool.

01:40:57.000 I'm really not concerned with breaking up or destroying anything at this point.

01:40:59.000 I want to create something new.

01:41:01.000 But thank you for pointing that out.

01:41:02.000 I agree with that.

01:41:04.000 W Falcon says, Hey Tim, when are you going to have Amanda Milius and Lauren Southern on together?

01:41:07.000 Oh, that'd be fun.

01:41:08.000 Are they friends?

01:41:08.000 I don't know.

01:41:09.000 I don't know.

01:41:09.000 That'd be super fun.

01:41:09.000 Yeah, I'm down.

01:41:10.000 That'd be, that'd be cool.

01:41:11.000 No alcohol allowed.

01:41:12.000 Yeah.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:15.000 No, no.

01:41:15.000 I think for the members only one, that's when they're allowed to have it.

01:41:18.000 That's fair.

01:41:19.000 That's fair.

01:41:21.000 All right, Warwolf says, greetings crew of IanCast IRL.

01:41:24.000 Ian, today is Graphene Friday.

01:41:27.000 Give us your humble and loyal fans a graphene fun fact.

01:41:30.000 And Tim, please make some TimCast brand beanies.

01:41:33.000 You can take a 64 sided piece of graphene and turn it into a ball.

01:41:38.000 And I believe that's called a bucky ball.

01:41:41.000 Created by Buckminster Fuller or popularized by the man and you can put stuff inside it like medicine and then send it through carbon nanotubes also made of graphene to their destination.

01:41:52.000 Alright, Nicholas Stalter says, I watch you almost every single day, and I'm always bored going through YouTube during work outside, and being able to come here right when it starts was amazing.

01:42:01.000 Keep up the good work, and glory to Chicken City!

01:42:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I have an announcement to make.

01:42:06.000 Renaming it Cocktown, though.

01:42:08.000 So, Timcast IRL is the number two most super-chatted show in the United States, followed by number three, Fresh and Fit, followed by number four, Rikada Law, followed by number five, The Enforcer, followed by number six, Chicken City!

01:42:34.000 I would like to point out I was wrong about that fact just a minute ago about the graphene.

01:42:38.000 It's C60 graphene.

01:42:40.000 There are 60 pieces of carbon in there.

01:42:44.000 My understanding, maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that Timcast IRL is the uh number one human like live action super chatted show in the world i could be wrong about that there may be one might be but i'm pretty sure everyone above us are vtubers which is like animated women chicken city is now number 31 in the world for those who didn't see it i posted an instagram the last chicken city stream has 245 000 views so a lot of people on twitter are demoralized and they're like what am i doing wrong people love chickens dude do you know that chickens used to be a religious symbol

01:43:21.000 For what?

01:43:22.000 People need to understand the power of this chicken.

01:43:24.000 Here's my question, though.

01:43:25.000 Because chickens would lay eggs every day, it was a symbol of life and fertility.

01:43:30.000 So they used the chicken and the rooster as like... Yeah, because chickens originated in Southeast Asia, the red jungle fowl, were first bred to fight.

01:43:40.000 But because they lay eggs every day, you get eggs every day.

01:43:44.000 That's awesome.

01:43:44.000 They're good eggs.

01:43:45.000 We love eggs.

01:43:46.000 And so when it swept across Europe and was brought in, people were like, this bird is amazing!

01:43:49.000 Amazing!

01:43:50.000 It doesn't fly.

01:43:51.000 Magical.

01:43:51.000 And you just give it food and it gives you an egg.

01:43:53.000 We want more of these things.

01:43:54.000 Okay, but so if Roberto, Roberto, is leading Chicken City, and Chicken City is now, like, top 30.

01:44:00.000 You can't say Roberto, can you?

01:44:02.000 Robert, Roberto?

01:44:03.000 Roberto.

01:44:04.000 Roberto.

01:44:05.000 Whoever he is, he's clearly not a good leader because all this money is pouring into Chicken City.

01:44:12.000 And they're living in squalor.

01:44:13.000 I know.

01:44:14.000 Are you kidding?

01:44:14.000 I mean, I think it's pocketing.

01:44:16.000 I think it's all the hentanol and the cocaine.

01:44:21.000 It's open border.

01:44:22.000 It's flooding over there.

01:44:24.000 And if you make me sheriff, I'm going to put an end to that and I'll make sure that the money gets back into the hands of the hens and the chickies. 0.98

01:44:30.000 Richie, not only are there no open borders, the chickens are literally being interred.

01:44:35.000 It's filthy.

01:44:37.000 It's squalor. 0.89

01:44:37.000 Whatever it is is squalor. 0.89

01:44:39.000 Robert O. ain't doing what he should be doing. 0.95

01:44:41.000 He's an animal.

01:44:42.000 No trickle down there.

01:44:43.000 Zachary says, hey, should I cancel my membership here and up my membership at TimCast.com?

01:44:49.000 But seriously, when are we talking about how hilarious this DEP trial is?

01:44:53.000 Yes, you should be members at TimCast.com.

01:44:55.000 It's better across the board.

01:44:56.000 We're gonna have, um, I think we're gonna have, like, a big announcement next week I'm really excited about, because, um, let's just say we, a lot of what we've been working on has been infrastructure stuff, so you guys are gonna be super excited for this.

01:45:08.000 We put our money where our mouth is.

01:45:10.000 And the debt trial is absolutely hilarious, jeez.

01:45:13.000 I feel bad for Johnny.

01:45:14.000 Did you see what's her name?

01:45:15.000 Amber Heard was like looking down and listening and then she laughs and looks up and she starts crying.

01:45:19.000 Makes her sad face again.

01:45:20.000 Can't believe she was an actress. 1.00

01:45:21.000 Couple of actors. 0.98

01:45:22.000 I think Johnny Depp is a weirdo, but I think Amber Heard is the crazy one.

01:45:27.000 Yeah, what is going on? 0.80

01:45:28.000 I've looked so little into it.

01:45:30.000 It's like such nonsense drama of two people.

01:45:32.000 All I saw was a clip of him shooing, like throwing everything off onto the floor. 0.99

01:45:37.000 Toxic femininity. 1.00

01:45:37.000 It's toxic femininity. 1.00

01:45:39.000 I think so.

01:45:40.000 All right.

01:45:41.000 What does it say?

01:45:42.000 Jedidine?

01:45:43.000 Hello, Tim and crew.

01:45:44.000 Thank you for always keeping us informed.

01:45:46.000 Can you shout out our dog's GoFundMe?

01:45:48.000 She has cancer and needs surgery.

01:45:50.000 Her name is Moe.

01:45:52.000 Is that, how do you, I don't know how to pronounce that.

01:45:54.000 Moquishal? 1.00

01:45:54.000 You're gonna have to spell it out, yeah. 1.00

01:45:56.000 It is under M-O-C-U-I-S-H-L-E.

01:46:02.000 Moquishal's surgery.

01:46:04.000 Organizer is Kevin Martin.

01:46:05.000 Thank you.

01:46:06.000 Best of luck for your, for your loved one.

01:46:08.000 Yeah.

01:46:09.000 Always sad.

01:46:11.000 Alright.

01:46:13.000 We'll grab some Super Chits. 0.82

01:46:14.000 Thank you for the science lesson.

01:46:15.000 I'm not a biologist.

01:46:16.000 Yeah, I'm not either.

01:46:17.000 chromosomes and a vagina at birth, the uterus, ovaries, and fallopian tubes are important,

01:46:21.000 but that alone and the ability to bear children does not make one a woman. 0.97

01:46:25.000 Thank you for the science lesson.

01:46:27.000 I'm not a biologist.

01:46:28.000 Yeah, I'm not either, so, you know.

01:46:29.000 I can't answer that question.

01:46:31.000 Ninja Robot says, listen to more Tool. 0.96

01:46:34.000 Have Maynard, James Keenan, or Danny Carey on the show.

01:46:38.000 Uh, weren't they involved with The Perfect Circle or something like that?

01:46:41.000 Yeah, yeah, Maynard is for sure.

01:46:42.000 I don't know about the other guys.

01:46:43.000 Dude, I just want to shout out that song Judith by The Perfect Circle because the guitar playing just blows my mind even to this day.

01:46:49.000 H is just so insane.

01:46:51.000 It's so good.

01:46:52.000 Do you know it, Tina?

01:46:52.000 No, I don't.

01:46:53.000 You gotta get into Tool.

01:46:54.000 I wish I did.

01:46:55.000 Tool's amazing.

01:46:55.000 What's the name of the band?

01:46:56.000 Tool.

01:46:58.000 I just love the slide and the weird slow descent.

01:47:02.000 It's so good.

01:47:03.000 He has his own wine company, too.

01:47:07.000 All right.

01:47:09.000 We'll grab some superchats here.

01:47:11.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:47:12.000 says, Daryl Davis on IRL.

01:47:14.000 Yes, please.

01:47:15.000 Coming soon.

01:47:15.000 Yes.

01:47:16.000 Coming soon.

01:47:16.000 Double D. Trying to tell you says, the pendulum has been swinging since the beginning, but it's swinging harder and harder.

01:47:22.000 The things going on now are no longer local to one place or another.

01:47:25.000 The things are taking place around the world.

01:47:27.000 Great show tonight.

01:47:29.000 You know, the way I describe it is it's a tower that every day grows.

01:47:33.000 And as the tower gets bigger, it starts swaying left and right.

01:47:36.000 But once it gets too tall, it'll swing so far left, so far right, so far left, and then snap.

01:47:42.000 It just breaks.

01:47:42.000 Like the Tower of Babel?

01:47:43.000 Is that what happened?

01:47:44.000 At the base of the tower, it's just swinging a little bit.

01:47:46.000 They actually didn't talk about it collapsing in the Bible.

01:47:48.000 They just talked about it going up and then God scattering people.

01:47:51.000 I think the birth of this nation started with an unstable foundation.

01:47:59.000 And it's quite literally that Thomas Jefferson made a compromise with slave states because

01:48:03.000 they needed the support to win the revolution.

01:48:06.000 As much as many of these northern states did have slaves, there was initially a provision.

01:48:11.000 One of the statements in the Declaration of Independence was that the king had taken people from a different country and brought them there to wage war on them.

01:48:19.000 They had to take that out because Jefferson was worried the southern states, which were very dependent on slavery for their economies, or I should very much just say preferred that and didn't want to do the work.

01:48:29.000 He was like, whatever you guys want to join our effort.

01:48:32.000 That was a big mistake.

01:48:34.000 Well, that was the start of the issue, right?

01:48:37.000 Whether or not America could have won independence, I don't know.

01:48:39.000 But from that point, within 80 years, you're in the Civil War.

01:48:42.000 Because there's like, we're at odds.

01:48:44.000 And as more states come in, are they going to be on one side of this issue or the other?

01:48:47.000 Okay, what about hope?

01:48:48.000 That was what was in my mind when we were talking about left, right, you know, nobody wants to come on and talk about it.

01:48:56.000 Do you have hope?

01:48:58.000 Oh, I think civil libertarian is one of the easiest ways to describe whatever this is.

01:49:02.000 I think we're winning.

01:49:04.000 You look at the polls for what's happening in December, and whatever it is the Democrats have decided to embrace is becoming widely rejected by the American people.

01:49:12.000 So, we'll see how it plays out.

01:49:14.000 Maybe it'll be a civil war, but...

01:49:15.000 But at that time, at the time that you're discussing, that was the left and the right were Hamiltonian and Jeffersonian, which in a weird way were almost, you know, agrarians versus industrial.

01:49:25.000 Which is where we've always been.

01:49:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:49:28.000 And so I think then you get the Civil War.

01:49:30.000 But if you've got this rickety thing shaking throughout the generations, it just shakes harder and harder and harder.

01:49:36.000 And then we've built it up so big, it's like on the verge of falling apart again.

01:49:41.000 We'll see, though.

01:49:42.000 Another civil war, maybe.

01:49:43.000 Just one Joe Biden stutter away.

01:49:48.000 Austin says, Tim, when are you going to make your own app?

01:49:56.000 We actually have the first... I think the app is almost done.

01:50:00.000 It takes a long time.

01:50:03.000 A lesson for most people is no amount of money can get you something that doesn't exist.

01:50:07.000 Yep.

01:50:07.000 What I mean by that is, you know, if you want to go from New York to D.C., what's the best way to do it?

01:50:14.000 If you're a multi-millionaire, what's the best way to do it?

01:50:16.000 If you're like, I need to get to D.C.

01:50:17.000 for this important meeting, what do you think the best way to do it is?

01:50:20.000 Speedboat.

01:50:21.000 Unlimited money.

01:50:21.000 Train.

01:50:22.000 A PJ.

01:50:23.000 Helicopter.

01:50:23.000 Train.

01:50:24.000 Train.

01:50:25.000 Literally the train.

01:50:25.000 A little PJ?

01:50:26.000 It's the fastest.

01:50:27.000 Going to an airport.

01:50:29.000 Going out of the city.

01:50:30.000 Going to the airport.

01:50:31.000 Waiting.

01:50:31.000 Commissioning it.

01:50:32.000 Then you gotta have the plane wait at the hangar when you land in D.C.

01:50:35.000 and you're outside of the city.

01:50:37.000 Train.

01:50:37.000 Yeah, too far for a helicopter.

01:50:39.000 The cost is immaterial.

01:50:40.000 The train is just faster.

01:50:41.000 So you're sitting there with everybody else.

01:50:43.000 Doesn't matter how much you're worth.

01:50:44.000 Got the bar car.

01:50:46.000 I mean, you might prefer a plane because it's comfortable.

01:50:49.000 You know, and then you sit in a car and you, you know, make your way there.

01:50:54.000 All right.

01:50:55.000 Tradesman Yeggs says, Hey Tim, I love listening to your show as a podcast.

01:50:59.000 I had no idea just how gross the chat was here on YouTube though.

01:51:03.000 Keep doing what you do, man.

01:51:04.000 You are making something amazing.

01:51:05.000 I really appreciate it.

01:51:06.000 And welcome to YouTube.

01:51:09.000 I always think like we, I was like, we, you know, we should do for, um, I wanted to use chicken city chat as our like members only chat on the website.

01:51:18.000 But maybe Chicken City.

01:51:20.000 The chat needs to be Chicken City.

01:51:21.000 I knew Chicken City would be successful, but Chicken City yesterday raised $2,314 in one day.

01:51:28.000 That is 23 chicken parties.

01:51:32.000 People actually come in and just drop a hundo and be like, chicken party!

01:51:36.000 And I'm like, I demand it!

01:51:37.000 And then Robert-O is just like doing lines in the back.

01:51:41.000 He's out of his mind.

01:51:42.000 All that cocaine.

01:51:43.000 I'm so excited for you to just create some order.

01:51:46.000 Say Ro. 0.51

01:51:47.000 Ro?

01:51:48.000 Bert.

01:51:49.000 Bert.

01:51:50.000 Oh.

01:51:52.000 Rabaito.

01:51:53.000 He refuses to do it now.

01:51:58.000 It's like Voldemort, like you refuse to say his name.

01:52:01.000 It's like, yeah, the people are like, I don't even say Trump's name.

01:52:03.000 I don't even say it.

01:52:04.000 Nope.

01:52:04.000 Not until I'm sheriff, then I'll say it again.

01:52:07.000 Okay.

01:52:09.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:52:10.000 says, Tim, Ian's right.

01:52:11.000 That felt weird, LOL, but yeah, Ian is right.

01:52:14.000 His best commercial is the Trident one from the Super Bowl.

01:52:17.000 Tina, thank you for coming.

01:52:18.000 Thanks, Raymond, but it's an Orbit commercial, not a Trident.

01:52:21.000 Orbit commercial.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, Ian was in a commercial for the Super Bowl.

01:52:24.000 It was really funny.

01:52:25.000 I didn't know they were going to run on the Super Bowl.

01:52:27.000 That's great.

01:52:28.000 It's good, I'm clipping my nose here, you gotta watch.

01:52:29.000 It's a classic Ian Stone right there.

01:52:32.000 So there I was playing with some graphene and I ended up on a Super Bowl commercial.

01:52:36.000 Yeah, really, I think I was stoned the morning I shot the commercial too.

01:52:39.000 Will.i.am says, unlike dancing, war does not require the consent of both parties.

01:52:43.000 We are in a culture war.

01:52:44.000 Classical Americans did not consent to this war, but it does not matter. 0.51

01:52:48.000 We are in it nonetheless.

01:52:49.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:52:50.000 And if we panic, that's when they got us.

01:52:53.000 What do you think, Ian?

01:52:54.000 Multicultural democracy or constitutional republic?

01:52:57.000 I like the Constitution.

01:52:58.000 I like rallying around a piece of paper rather than cultures and identity politics.

01:53:02.000 Or not just the paper, but the ideas that are transcribed and away from us that we can all kind of revere and utilize.

01:53:09.000 Well, that means you are right-wing.

01:53:11.000 Maybe today.

01:53:12.000 You sounded like Mark Levin right there.

01:53:14.000 The Constitution empowers us.

01:53:16.000 Jesse Kelly had a tweet where he said the Constitution is not in effect.

01:53:24.000 You've got people who are like, we believe in the Constitution.

01:53:26.000 The other side's like, it doesn't matter.

01:53:28.000 It literally doesn't matter.

01:53:30.000 The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:53:34.000 So in Maryland, New Jersey, and New York, when you're like, um, hello, government, can I have a gun?

01:53:39.000 They go, no.

01:53:39.000 And you go, okay.

01:53:40.000 Yeah.

01:53:40.000 The constitution does not protect us.

01:53:42.000 We protect the constitution.

01:53:44.000 Yep.

01:53:44.000 Yeah.

01:53:45.000 And because people are unwilling to live by and enforce it.

01:53:48.000 There you go.

01:53:49.000 Oh, what was it?

01:53:50.000 Was it Sotomayor said?

01:53:51.000 I don't understand why that's something the States, why it's a power the States would have, but not the federal government.

01:53:56.000 Absolutely insane.

01:53:58.000 Everyone vomited in the ninth and 10th amendment.

01:54:00.000 Yep.

01:54:04.000 All right.

01:54:04.000 F-Off says, have to put my dog down Monday.

01:54:07.000 He and I always watch your show after work and he loves when everyone gets all hyped up.

01:54:11.000 It would be awesome if everyone can shout out my dog Romanov, named after Black Widow since he acts like a girl.

01:54:17.000 Peace, y'all.

01:54:19.000 Good job, Romanov.

01:54:19.000 Romanov.

01:54:20.000 We're looking after you, Romanov.

01:54:23.000 See you soon, buddy.

01:54:23.000 Take passage.

01:54:24.000 You will chase many cars in dog heaven.

01:54:26.000 That's right.

01:54:28.000 All right.

01:54:30.000 Grizzlock says, please briefly discuss the shift in the Overton window.

01:54:35.000 Are you familiar with the Overton window?

01:54:36.000 No, not at all.

01:54:37.000 So within the spectrum of the political compass, like of political ideas, there's a window of socially acceptable thought that moves around.

01:54:46.000 And the idea is that today it's being pulled all the way to the left.

01:54:50.000 So if you are a moderate Or a conservative, they say, you are far right.

01:54:56.000 You're not, but to the Overton window, you're on the right edge or outside of it.

01:55:00.000 So that's what happens on Twitter.

01:55:02.000 They make rules where they're like, anyone who has a conservative opinion is an extremist and they'll ban you.

01:55:08.000 Who is Overton?

01:55:10.000 It was the guy who coined it.

01:55:11.000 John Overton was the name, I think.

01:55:13.000 But the idea is that as the left goes further left, the center also goes further left.

01:55:18.000 And then if you stand still, The center cannot hold.

01:55:21.000 Yes.

01:55:22.000 I'm learning that poem right now.

01:55:24.000 Wonderful poem.

01:55:25.000 Everything falls apart.

01:55:26.000 The center cannot hold.

01:55:28.000 JN says, Ian, you complicate the simplest things.

01:55:31.000 Not everything is an algorithm.

01:55:33.000 Hope you're simple enough to understand that.

01:55:35.000 Much respect, crew.

01:55:37.000 Thanks, dude.

01:55:38.000 It was a very extreme statement.

01:55:40.000 I hope not to complicate everything.

01:55:43.000 Keith McCracken says, if the fans of the show really want Elon on the show, then y'all should do a massive flood of tweets of, go on Timcast IRL to Elon.

01:55:51.000 I think it will get his attention.

01:55:53.000 You know, I never do that kind of stuff.

01:55:53.000 I don't know.

01:55:56.000 When, um, I was like, the original beef with Joe, where he, Joe Rogan invited me on his show and then canceled, and then I flew, I flew out, he canceled, then he invited me on again, then I flew out and he canceled.

01:56:06.000 I was just like, dude doesn't owe me any favors.

01:56:08.000 Like, Elon, the richest man in the world, owes me nothing, and I don't think tweeting at him is like... I don't think everybody just blasting him.

01:56:16.000 I thought it was funny.

01:56:17.000 I tweeted at him like, Elon, come on the show.

01:56:18.000 I think that's funny, and it might work.

01:56:20.000 And he seems like a cool dude.

01:56:21.000 It would be amazing if we had Elon and Jack Dorsey on the show.

01:56:25.000 So, but I think it's impossible because Jack's on the board of Twitter.

01:56:29.000 Never really seen Elon in this kind of like, I mean, you've seen him on Joe Rogan and you've seen him on like Babylon B, but like in terms of like, I mean, like you just asked Tina, you know, like what, you know, like these political questions that nobody wants to answer specifically because they're hot button issues.

01:56:47.000 Yeah.

01:56:48.000 I don't know.

01:56:48.000 That would be interesting to hear him, you know, voice his opinion on a lot of those things.

01:56:52.000 Like, I think the one thing I really love to bring up in this context is the Ahmaud Arbery case, because it feels like I'm the only one.

01:57:00.000 There's like a small handful of people who are actually challenging the results in that case, but even conservatives are on board with, you know, what I would describe as gross injustice.

01:57:10.000 So it's because of the window that you're talking about, which is like, well, that's just that's something you don't talk about.

01:57:15.000 I think it's because conservatives are cowardly, like obviously not every single one.

01:57:21.000 But when Kyle Rittenhouse got acquitted, they all celebrated and people were crying. 0.98

01:57:27.000 And then when the Ahmaud Arbery case went down and the McMichaels and that other guy got convicted, they were like, well, You know, we got our win already, so we'll say, see, the system worked, and I'm like, are you nuts? 0.99

01:57:37.000 It's hypocritical. 0.99

01:57:39.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:57:39.000 The guy who filmed it goes to prison for the rest of his life? 0.96

01:57:42.000 Are you insane? 0.99

01:57:42.000 That's not right. 0.99

01:57:43.000 It's hypocritical. 0.63

01:57:44.000 Yeah.

01:57:45.000 But I, whatever, man.

01:57:47.000 You know, one day, one day people will not like what I have to say, and, well, apparently that happens all the time, but whatever.

01:57:53.000 We're going to say what is.

01:57:54.000 People want to live in a fake reality where they plug their ears and pretend like something isn't true.

01:57:58.000 You can do that.

01:57:58.000 I don't want to do that.

01:57:59.000 I think they're unmotivated.

01:58:00.000 So there are some cowards, and people can be cowardly from time to time, but I think a lot of people just don't have the motivation yet.

01:58:06.000 Maybe it's dietary. 0.99

01:58:06.000 You know, if you eat crap, it's hard to get up and do stuff. 0.99

01:58:09.000 Garbage in, garbage out! 1.00

01:58:10.000 That's right. 0.99

01:58:11.000 I eat McDonald's and it's like, it jacks me up.

01:58:15.000 Shake Shack is even worse.

01:58:16.000 It clears my hole.

01:58:17.000 Look at those ripped arms. 0.99

01:58:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:58:20.000 RD says, Richie is so hot.

01:58:23.000 Oh, we're just talking about his body.

01:58:25.000 Is it the chin music?

01:58:26.000 It's the chin music. 0.91

01:58:26.000 My mom is right here. 0.91

01:58:27.000 Jeez, come on.

01:58:29.000 Richie's thumb is healed.

01:58:31.000 Excellent.

01:58:31.000 Look at that mobility.

01:58:33.000 So we have a three foot quarter pipe slash launch ramp and a six foot landing pad.

01:58:42.000 And Richie went very fast and did a front flip off the ramp but basically cleared the whole landing.

01:58:49.000 Landed at the bottom of it and what happened to your thumb?

01:58:51.000 I subluxed it.

01:58:53.000 Subluxed?

01:58:53.000 Subluxed.

01:58:55.000 Subluxation.

01:58:56.000 It popped out and in. 1.00

01:58:57.000 And my mom was like, I thought you said you were done doing stupid stuff. 0.99

01:59:00.000 Oh yeah, no. 1.00

01:59:02.000 You mean amazing! 1.00

01:59:02.000 Stupid? 1.00

01:59:04.000 I'm right. 1.00

01:59:05.000 That's what I meant.

01:59:06.000 Did you see the video?

01:59:07.000 Yes, I did.

01:59:07.000 It was amazing.

01:59:08.000 It was really stupid. 0.99

01:59:09.000 No, she took me to a vert ramp when I was like 11 or 12. 0.98

01:59:12.000 I was like, this is like before, there was like a skate quest, like map quest for skate parks.

01:59:18.000 And I'm like, mom, there's a skate park like 20 minutes away.

01:59:21.000 Can you take me there?

01:59:22.000 And there were no photos.

01:59:23.000 Some of them didn't have the photos on there.

01:59:24.000 So I had no idea what kind of skate ramp it was.

01:59:25.000 I show up and it's like a 10 foot vert ramp.

01:59:28.000 And I have my skateboard had like the longboard wheels on it.

01:59:31.000 So I was so grossly unprepared.

01:59:32.000 I was like 12 years old, 11 years old.

01:59:34.000 And I remember climbing up to the top of it, up the stairs, and my mom's at the bottom like, Rich, are you sure about this?

01:59:39.000 And I'm like, I know what I'm doing, Mom!

01:59:41.000 Drop it.

01:59:42.000 Boom.

01:59:42.000 Wrist broken.

01:59:43.000 The moment I tried to drop in, just fell straight back.

01:59:46.000 Snapped the wrist.

01:59:47.000 Are you okay?

01:59:47.000 I think I broke my wrist.

01:59:50.000 Luckily my dad is a doctor so... He walked right over and just pulled it and said, you're fine.

01:59:55.000 Yeah, his thing was he would like have me come in for my cast and then I'd bring in my hockey stick so he could mold the hockey stick around the cast.

02:00:01.000 Oh, that's great.

02:00:02.000 So he could still play with the cast on.

02:00:04.000 That's wild.

02:00:06.000 All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

02:00:07.000 says, how about a GoFundMe for billboards in Tennessee?

02:00:10.000 You know what I'm thinking?

02:00:11.000 I'm thinking that when they booted Robbie Starbuck off of the primary ballot because they claimed he wasn't a Republican, they should earn the ire of angry people who are outraged over the corruption of the Republican Party.

02:00:23.000 What was the grounds for that?

02:00:24.000 That he's not a Republican.

02:00:26.000 But how do they constitute that?

02:00:27.000 Yeah, how do they quantify that?

02:00:28.000 You need, like, vouchers or something, but, like, Robbie more than qualifies.

02:00:31.000 And what was his district?

02:00:33.000 Seventh.

02:00:34.000 Fifth, I thought.

02:00:35.000 Do you want to pull up that story real quick?

02:00:37.000 I want to make sure I... Yeah, I don't know who he is.

02:00:39.000 So he's this, like, he's a guy... He's a friend of ours, yeah.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, he's a friend of the show.

02:00:44.000 He's a Republican.

02:00:45.000 He's, like, a populist.

02:00:47.000 America's first guy, you know, like, pro-workers' rights, in a sense.

02:00:51.000 Not, like, the left necessarily sense, but, like, you know, pro-Trump.

02:00:55.000 and they booted him off the ballot for the primary election so he can't...

02:00:59.000 what does he do? He runs an independent.

02:01:01.000 I think we should show the corrupt Republican Party what happens when you piss off people who are politically active

02:01:10.000 and young.

02:01:10.000 And I gotta figure out how that works and what the legal guidelines are for the appropriate thing to do,

02:01:16.000 but I'm thinking like what, buying billboards or commercials?

02:01:18.000 Billboards are passive.

02:01:20.000 You want to contact the people that are in the offices, and you want to contact their secretaries, and you want to overload them with information so that they have no choice but to listen.

02:01:30.000 It was 14 vouchers, or 14 affirming vouching people? 0.86

02:01:34.000 Letters?

02:01:35.000 That's what he had, right?

02:01:35.000 Yeah, that's what he had.

02:01:36.000 I think they said that he didn't have enough, but he had 14.

02:01:39.000 That's crazy to me. 0.81

02:01:41.000 That's so, like, flagrantly corrupt. 0.98

02:01:43.000 That's nuts. 0.95

02:01:44.000 Thank you, Richie.

02:01:49.000 I don't know.

02:01:49.000 I'm extremely livid about this because I've been telling people, hey, vote in the primaries.

02:01:53.000 Make sure we get real people, young people, active people to get involved in politics, to help change this world.

02:01:59.000 And then when you get someone who is prominent, respectable, successful like Robbie, they play dirty games to make it so he can't be on the Republican ballot for the primary.

02:02:11.000 So, you know, the Republican Party does not have my vote.

02:02:17.000 I don't like them.

02:02:17.000 I've never liked them.

02:02:19.000 I voted for Trump only because I did not like Biden, and Trump had really good—he had proven himself, as I explained earlier in the show.

02:02:25.000 But if the Republicans think in the midterms they're getting my votes, it ain't gonna happen when they play games like this.

02:02:31.000 Now, I understand this is the Tennessee GOP.

02:02:33.000 I don't care.

02:02:34.000 How old is he, Robbie?

02:02:36.000 Is he 32?

02:02:36.000 34, I think.

02:02:37.000 He's young, young, yeah.

02:02:39.000 I want to see the candidates for the Republican Party in West Virginia, I want to see them stand up for Robbie.

02:02:46.000 I guess they don't need my votes, though.

02:02:47.000 You know, West Virginia is gonna go Republican, so... To be fair, he wasn't the only Republican to get kicked off the ballot.

02:02:53.000 His opposition was, too, which is not any better.

02:02:55.000 But that was Morgan?

02:02:57.000 Yeah, Morgan.

02:02:58.000 But, uh, Morgan was because of... You know what?

02:03:01.000 I gotta be completely honest.

02:03:02.000 Some other excuse?

02:03:03.000 Yeah, I don't care what the excuse is.

02:03:04.000 Yeah, it doesn't care.

02:03:04.000 It doesn't matter.

02:03:06.000 I'm legit pissed off about this.

02:03:08.000 That's not cool.

02:03:09.000 So I'm going to be exploring this and seeing what I can do in the most effective way to... I don't know, man.

02:03:18.000 I'm not happy about it.

02:03:19.000 I think organizing call patterns is good.

02:03:22.000 Like getting it at a certain time of day.

02:03:24.000 You call this office, you call this office, you call this office.

02:03:27.000 Take turns.

02:03:28.000 Do it four times a day, six times a day.

02:03:30.000 Make sure they know how you feel.

02:03:32.000 Be honest and be kind about it, but make sure that they know.

02:03:35.000 Well, we'll figure something out.

02:03:37.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, smash that like button.

02:03:39.000 Before we go, I have a super chat I'd like to read.

02:03:42.000 It's from Raymond Frye.

02:03:43.000 It was directly at me, and it kind of moved me, and I wanted to say something about it.

02:03:45.000 He said, Hey, Ian.

02:03:46.000 Hey, man.

02:03:46.000 I served in the Iraq wars in infantry, man.

02:03:48.000 We did not kick doors in and shoot civilians.

02:03:50.000 We went out of our way to save civilians. 0.99

02:03:52.000 Yes, drone attacks suck. 0.97

02:03:53.000 We did not like them, yet say we're all committed war crimes or did not try to help people is a lie. 0.91

02:03:58.000 Raymond, I'm sorry if you took it that way.

02:03:59.000 I don't think that.

02:04:00.000 I never thought that everybody there was a killer or a cruel or a horrible person.

02:04:04.000 It was a friend of mine and they were talking about the first Iraq war in the 90s.

02:04:07.000 And she told me very explicitly that they did kick doors in and kill families.

02:04:10.000 So, there you go.

02:04:12.000 Thanks.

02:04:13.000 If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com.

02:04:18.000 If you would like to support our work, it's Friday night.

02:04:21.000 We're gonna have a lovely weekend.

02:04:23.000 And then of course, Chicken City will always be live for all of you to relax and watch chickens.

02:04:28.000 Big news, Lo-Fi Chicken City Beats to Relax To is coming next.

02:04:32.000 It's going to be a YouTube live stream where it just plays relaxing music, but there will be the occasional buck buck in there.

02:04:38.000 And I'm not kidding.

02:04:39.000 You guys think I'm joking?

02:04:41.000 We're doing, um, we're doing cartoons.

02:04:44.000 So, uh, we're, the merch is coming next.

02:04:45.000 There's going to be a shirt for every chicken character.

02:04:48.000 And, uh, we want to do consistently like a cartoon with chicken facts.

02:04:54.000 So it's like the weird things that chickens do.

02:04:55.000 We make a fun kids show.

02:04:56.000 Just wait until I carry out my coup, and then your chicken facts become chicken alternative facts, and then your lo-fi music is just like, how the hell do you know that all?

02:05:09.000 I was told it's not family friendly to have poop and fart jokes.

02:05:12.000 What?

02:05:13.000 That's true.

02:05:13.000 And I'm like, I think so, but some parents don't like it.

02:05:15.000 But so one of the funniest things about chickens is that they're smart enough not to drink water they dump in, but

02:05:21.000 not smart enough not to dump in their water.

02:05:23.000 So the next idea I had for a cartoon was the chickens are like, that's a good one.

02:05:29.000 So the chickens are like, they're looking up at the sun and they're going water.

02:05:33.000 And they're like, they're looking at the water and it's, And they're like, it's gone bad.

02:05:38.000 And they're like, I don't think we're going to make it.

02:05:40.000 And then a human comes over and switches the water out and they go, Salvation!

02:05:44.000 And then they all start drinking like crazy.

02:05:45.000 And then they stand up and they're like, we're saved.

02:05:48.000 And then they immediately just go.

02:05:50.000 Then they turn around and go, the water's gone bad!

02:05:54.000 It's kind of like American democracy.

02:05:57.000 I don't like that comparison.

02:06:00.000 All right, everybody.

02:06:01.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:06:03.000 And to Tina and her son, thanks for coming and joining us on the show.

02:06:07.000 Thank you for having me.

02:06:07.000 Thanks for having me, Mom.

02:06:09.000 Like out of your body.

02:06:12.000 Would either of you like to shout anything out?

02:06:15.000 I just shout out my mom for giving birth to me and also my campaign to take over Chicken City. 0.90

02:06:21.000 I think the issue is, as mayor of Chicken City, there'd be like labor laws involved, like I'd have to pay you money and Roberto is... I'm just grateful that you had me at this table at age 70, so thank you.

02:06:36.000 Oh, no worries.

02:06:36.000 I appreciate it.

02:06:37.000 Glad to have you.

02:06:37.000 Absolutely.

02:06:39.000 Oh, geez.

02:06:39.000 Ian Crossland, thank you guys for coming.

02:06:42.000 And that's about all I got.

02:06:43.000 This comic, Infinity Gauntlet, changed my life.

02:06:46.000 It's been sitting in front of me.

02:06:46.000 Check it out.

02:06:47.000 This is an aquamarine.

02:06:49.000 It's pretty cool.

02:06:50.000 It's cool.

02:06:50.000 I love you all.

02:06:51.000 Richie, Tina, thank you guys.

02:06:53.000 We should do this again.

02:06:53.000 I loved seeing you, man.

02:06:54.000 This is great to talk.

02:06:55.000 Extra-generational conversations.

02:06:57.000 Beautiful.

02:06:57.000 Bye.

02:06:57.000 Thank you, Lydia.

02:06:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:07:00.000 I wanted to read a very short part of The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats.

02:07:03.000 It's a special shout out to Michael Knowles because he loves this poem.

02:07:07.000 This is an incredibly timely poem that you mentioned and I forgot how much I love it.

02:07:11.000 Okay, so it goes, turning and turning in the widening gyre, the falcon cannot hear the falconer.

02:07:16.000 And I think if that poem doesn't describe where we're at right now... That's the part I learned on the train.

02:07:19.000 is loosed upon the world. The blood-dimmed tide is loosed and everywhere the ceremony of innocence

02:07:24.000 is drowned. The best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity."

02:07:30.000 And I think if that poem doesn't describe where we're at right now...

02:07:33.000 That's the part I learned on the train. Yes. It's hard to remember because it's so painful.

02:07:39.000 It's a beautiful poem.

02:07:40.000 It's very poignant and I think that everybody should read The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats.

02:07:45.000 I am sarahpatchlitz on twitter and minds.com.

02:07:47.000 I also have sarahpatchlitz.me.

02:07:49.000 You may follow me there.

02:07:51.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:07:52.000 Why don't you head over to Chicken City on YouTube.

02:07:54.000 You can search for it or you can go to chickencitylive.com.

02:07:57.000 It'll pop right up.

02:07:58.000 And you can also check out the Cast Castle vlog or Pop Culture Crisis or Tales from the Inverted World Season 2 coming soon.

02:08:05.000 We've got a lot of cool stuff in the works.

02:08:07.000 I think next week we might have a big announcement.

02:08:08.000 We'll see.

02:08:09.000 Infrastructure-wise, the stuff we're working on and joining up with is going to be really cool.

02:08:13.000 So thanks for hanging out.

02:08:14.000 We'll see you all next time.

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