Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Twitter REFUSES To Bring Back Trump Despite Elon joining Board w-Elad Eliahu & Libby

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:09.000 Wow.

00:00:10.000 He's promising significant changes and improvements.

00:00:14.000 Some people think it's a smokescreen.

00:00:16.000 Elon Musk comes out and says, who wants an edit button?

00:00:19.000 And then Twitter comes out like, actually, we tweeted we are working on an edit button a week ago, so Elon actually didn't do anything.

00:00:25.000 However, many people said, Elon, bring back Donald Trump.

00:00:30.000 And Twitter said, no, no, we're not going to be bringing back Donald Trump.

00:00:34.000 Some people are concerned that this is just a pump and dump.

00:00:36.000 Elon buys up 9% of the company.

00:00:38.000 Then the stock price skyrockets.

00:00:40.000 I think he's already up somewhere around like $750 million towards his investment.

00:00:44.000 And then he waits a little bit.

00:00:46.000 People start building faith in the platform that it's going to fix things.

00:00:50.000 Then he sells off his stock and jumps ship.

00:00:51.000 I'm not entirely convinced, though, because apparently Elon actually called the Babylon Bee, asked them about their suspension, and then said, I might need to buy Twitter.

00:01:00.000 So I think Elon will try to make some positive changes.

00:01:03.000 It probably won't be that much, though.

00:01:05.000 I can't imagine him bringing back Alex Jones or anyone else.

00:01:08.000 And apparently Twitter is saying it's not going to happen.

00:01:10.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:11.000 But we've got some really, really crazy news.

00:01:14.000 Oklahoma has effectively banned abortion outright, except I think

00:01:18.000 only in the instance of the life of the mother. Colorado did the opposite and basically is allowing

00:01:24.000 unfettered abortion up to the point of birth, I believe, right? Is that up to the point of

00:01:28.000 birth? There were no restrictions.

00:01:30.000 No restrictions. In the law. And so, wow, we definitely got to...

00:01:34.000 That's going to be huge.

00:01:36.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:37.000 Plus, we got a billionaire saying the end is nigh, or he's just saying inflation is going to get really, really bad.

00:01:42.000 And you can blame Joe Biden.

00:01:43.000 Joe Biden is going to be extending the student loan relief, freezing payments.

00:01:49.000 AOC is saying just cancel it.

00:01:51.000 AOC is also embroiled in a scandal where apparently her campaign was funneling a million dollars to two packs and not documenting what they were doing. 0.76

00:01:58.000 And the FEC Dismissed the complaint, waited a month, and then released the information saying, oh yeah, the complaint was correct though.

00:02:06.000 AOC was, apparently.

00:02:08.000 I'll be careful to describe what she was doing, but funneling money to other organizations without tracking it, Which, you know, I guess you can call dark money or, as some have said, illegal.

00:02:22.000 The organization that sued said that there have been many other people that have charges against them for way less than what AOC did.

00:02:31.000 So we'll talk about all of that.

00:02:32.000 Joining us today is Ilad Eliyahu.

00:02:36.000 Would you like to introduce yourself, Ilad?

00:02:37.000 What's up, everybody?

00:02:38.000 Tim, thank you so much for having me on.

00:02:40.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:02:42.000 I'm a field reporter.

00:02:43.000 I contribute for TimCast.

00:02:45.000 I'm also on Instagram, YouTube.

00:02:47.000 I cover protests, civil unrest, political rallies.

00:02:50.000 Tim, thank you for having me on.

00:02:51.000 Absolutely.

00:02:53.000 You've actually covered Trump rallies, protests for us at TimCast.com on the ground.

00:02:58.000 So you've actually got to talk to progressives and conservatives and Get the full view on the ground.

00:03:03.000 I've been at the Trump rally in Georgia.

00:03:03.000 Awesome.

00:03:06.000 I was at a Trump rally in Arizona.

00:03:07.000 I was in one in South Carolina.

00:03:09.000 It's super interesting to see how the Trump rallies differ now from when they were during the presidential.

00:03:14.000 They're a little bit more lackluster now.

00:03:16.000 It's interesting too to see Trump endorsing only people who say the election was stolen and things like that.

00:03:21.000 So it's really interesting to see the dividing line play out at these Trump rallies.

00:03:25.000 I'm going to be at another Trump rally this weekend.

00:03:28.000 I believe it is in North Carolina, thanks to Tim.

00:03:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:31.000 Cool.

00:03:31.000 Right on.

00:03:31.000 We also got Libby.

00:03:32.000 Hey, Tim.

00:03:33.000 How's it going?

00:03:34.000 Who are you?

00:03:35.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:03:36.000 I'm the editor in chief of the Post Millennial.

00:03:38.000 And I love coming on the show.

00:03:39.000 You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.

00:03:42.000 We have like a bunch of stories from the Post Millennial.

00:03:45.000 That's because we're awesome.

00:03:47.000 The one I like is... We covered a lot of great stuff today.

00:03:47.000 Yeah.

00:03:50.000 Andy Ngo captured a whole bunch of Twitter employees freaking out.

00:03:53.000 That was amazing.

00:03:53.000 Yeah.

00:03:55.000 Oh, no.

00:03:55.000 I tweeted that everybody at Twitter now works for the whims of Elon Musk.

00:04:00.000 He owns 9%.

00:04:02.000 So every single time that woke progressive clicks that button or submits that form or helps facilitate Twitter in any way, they are putting money in the pocket of Elon Musk.

00:04:13.000 And it was amazing to see the Substack vice president tweeted out that they're hiring and that disgruntled, triggered Twitter employees need not apply.

00:04:23.000 That was pretty based.

00:04:24.000 I love that.

00:04:26.000 We also got Seamus.

00:04:27.000 Yes, I am here.

00:04:28.000 Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.

00:04:29.000 I create animated political cartoons.

00:04:31.000 I upload a new one every single Thursday, sometimes on Tuesdays, and I'm happy to do the show.

00:04:35.000 Also, I love the idea of these Twitter employees being like, you know, we can't just let some powerful tech billionaire decide what can be said on the internet. 0.67

00:04:42.000 This is ridiculous. 0.91

00:04:43.000 This is very unfair. 0.94

00:04:44.000 Someone needs to look into stopping this.

00:04:47.000 Too little, too late.

00:04:47.000 That's brilliant.

00:04:48.000 I think I am amused by the idea of these Twitter people having a very bad day.

00:04:52.000 But hopefully Elon actually makes positive improvements.

00:04:54.000 I'm also here.

00:04:55.000 I'm Sarah Patchlitz.

00:04:56.000 I'm producing in the corner.

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00:05:39.000 Let's get into that first story from the Daily Mail Bad news.

00:05:43.000 Twitter says it will not reinstate Trump despite Elon Musk vowing significant change to woke platform after taking a board seat with 9% stake.

00:05:51.000 But this also means there's going to be no Alex Jones, no Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:05:57.000 Twitter said it has no plans to reverse any policy decisions and is committed to impartiality in the development and enforcement of its policies and rules.

00:06:06.000 That being said, Okay, they say our policy decisions are not determined by the board or shareholders and we have no plans to reverse any policy decisions.

00:06:14.000 As always, our board plays an important advisory and feedback role across the entirety of our service.

00:06:19.000 Our day-to-day operations and decisions are made by Twitter management and its employees.

00:06:24.000 They can say that, but I'm not entirely convinced.

00:06:27.000 Because I do think, with a 9.2% share, Elon Musk has substantial weight.

00:06:33.000 A lot of people are pointing out, I can't remember the guy's name, they said someone, was it Ryan Cohen?

00:06:37.000 He bought a stake in GameStop and then got a position on the board or something like that, I'm not entirely sure.

00:06:42.000 But people are saying, look, even though it's not a controlling share, it's not 50%, it scared them enough to give Elon what he wanted in terms of a seat at the table.

00:06:51.000 And part of that arrangement with Elon says he can't buy in any way more than 14.9% of the company.

00:06:58.000 So I think they're scared of a pump and dump.

00:07:00.000 I think they're scared he's going to get too much power.

00:07:02.000 And I think Elon might actually have an impact on this platform.

00:07:08.000 At the very least, if they listen to what the man has to say, he's going to make all of them much more wealthy.

00:07:14.000 And if they don't, well, then they can... I mean, the dudes, whatever he's touching is turning to gold, right?

00:07:19.000 With Tesla, SpaceX, and all that stuff.

00:07:21.000 Yeah, he's doing a great job with all those things.

00:07:24.000 But where does this go?

00:07:25.000 And I gotta say, Everyone's really excited about Elon buying a portion of the company.

00:07:33.000 Then this morning we hear that Elon is on the board of directors.

00:07:36.000 Does anyone really believe there's going to be substantial changes to this platform?

00:07:40.000 I think everyone was looking for something a little hopeful.

00:07:43.000 I think people want things to be better on Twitter where you can say true things and not be banned for it.

00:07:50.000 I don't know that Elon Musk is going to provide that kind of change, that he would have the power to do so.

00:07:55.000 I think like, what is it, like Morgan Stanley also owns 9.2%.

00:08:01.000 Is it 9.2?

00:08:01.000 I think.

00:08:02.000 No, no, no.

00:08:03.000 I think he's the largest.

00:08:04.000 He is the largest.

00:08:04.000 Are you sure?

00:08:05.000 Because I was looking at it the other day and they had a 9.2 share.

00:08:08.000 So BlackRock owns something like 6.2, 7.2.

00:08:11.000 I could be wrong.

00:08:13.000 I don't know.

00:08:14.000 I mean, I took a look at it, but I don't know how to find it fast.

00:08:17.000 But yeah, I know that.

00:08:19.000 But they haven't they probably haven't affected any substantial change.

00:08:23.000 But Elon Musk obviously made this buy in order to affect change.

00:08:28.000 I like Elon Musk.

00:08:30.000 So that's the question.

00:08:31.000 Does he have the power to do it?

00:08:32.000 Does he have the wherewithal to do it?

00:08:34.000 Will he be allowed to do it?

00:08:35.000 $3 billion, $2.89 billion purchase to make this move.

00:08:40.000 You know why I like Elon Musk?

00:08:41.000 I don't know if anything good is going to happen from this, but boy is everything just so boring.

00:08:45.000 He's also had a lot of back and forth on the platform with Jack Dorsey, which I think has been so interesting, because Dorsey the other day apologized.

00:08:53.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:08:53.000 That was really interesting, I think, his perspective.

00:08:57.000 Dorsey has 2%.

00:08:58.000 2.25, right?

00:09:00.000 I don't know.

00:09:01.000 I thought it was 2.

00:09:02.000 But, you know, who knows?

00:09:04.000 But look, look, look.

00:09:05.000 It's interesting, though.

00:09:06.000 When Trump was in office and when Trump was on Twitter, it was like being on a roller coaster every day.

00:09:10.000 It was fun.

00:09:12.000 And now that he's gone, every day it's like, oh look, they bombed somebody again.

00:09:16.000 And so Elon Musk comes in and he's like, I'm going to make this ridiculous $3 billion purchase.

00:09:21.000 And I'm like, all right, something's happening.

00:09:24.000 I got a lot of thoughts on this.

00:09:26.000 I hope this isn't just an expensive way to make sure that he doesn't get banned off the platform.

00:09:29.000 He's thinking, as long as I have almost 10% stake, they're definitely not going to ban me off the platform.

00:09:34.000 I have a lot of thoughts on this because as we're seeing different social media platforms emerge and then others become old and kind of useless.

00:09:41.000 I'm not sure that same thing will happen with Twitter.

00:09:43.000 I see some of these old social media companies try to stay relevant one way or another.

00:09:47.000 Facebook by buying Instagram and doing their new meta thing.

00:09:50.000 But now we're kind of seeing how TikTok kind of took them all over very quickly.

00:09:54.000 But at the same time, I'm ambivalent because as you guys know, Trump just started Truth Social and that fell flat on its face.

00:10:00.000 So if there's no way which way to go, And while he might be a better alternative than, say, Jack Dorsey or Parag, the current CEO.

00:10:10.000 He's not gonna be a CEO.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, but that influence will be good there, but also I think we need to be critical of Elon Musk.

00:10:18.000 I'm extremely hawkish when it comes to China, and they just opened a bunch of factories in China, and many companies in China are at the whim of the Chinese government.

00:10:25.000 And he's praised them.

00:10:26.000 He's praised them also like awkwardly as well because he also praises American values, too So I don't know if he's a businessman just trying to play into both sides also Tencent a Chinese company has a 5% stake in Tesla So there's a lot of different loans and influence there something to keep an eye on but better than the alternative The thing with Truth Social is it didn't offer anything new to the concept of social media.

00:10:49.000 It didn't even offer Trump.

00:10:50.000 Well, it didn't even offer Trump.

00:10:51.000 Yeah.

00:10:52.000 What am I going to sign up for?

00:10:53.000 What's the point?

00:10:53.000 Like, yeah, the point of Truth Social was to try to sign up and see what Trump says.

00:10:57.000 And I still just get his little statements in my email.

00:10:59.000 But that's the thing about the new social media platforms, right?

00:11:03.000 Getter and Truth Social, whatever else you want to throw in there, they're not doing anything disruptive to the industry and there needs to be a disruptive influence for it to have any hold.

00:11:11.000 Like TikTok did a new thing, whether you like it or not.

00:11:14.000 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:11:15.000 And what a lot of conservatives have been saying is we need conservative social media platforms.

00:11:20.000 That's not true.

00:11:21.000 We need social media platforms that everyone wants to use, but which also won't ban conservatives.

00:11:25.000 And so these sort of market themselves, and it might be cynical, they might understand they're actually selling a niche product to people by giving them the hope that it'll turn into something more, but ultimately it just gets filled with conservatives, regular people who don't have any kind of political bench, or people on the left are still using Twitter or Instagram, and it doesn't really get us anywhere.

00:11:44.000 Also, I don't think these other social media alternatives are actually free speech platforms like they claim to be.

00:11:49.000 I think it was Gab, but there's a couple of other like Twitter wannabes who do have a direction.

00:11:53.000 They're not, I'm not a free speech absolutist.

00:11:55.000 You can't have every single thing on your feed all the time.

00:11:58.000 The gore, the other stuff that we don't need to get into.

00:12:02.000 But these, they call themselves free speech, but there's something different.

00:12:05.000 So everybody has their own version of what they want to call free speech.

00:12:09.000 Gab has as close as you can get, but even they don't allow docs in.

00:12:12.000 I agree with that.

00:12:13.000 But, you know, we had Torba here and he was like, nobody likes that.

00:12:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:17.000 Weren't you not even allowed to talk trash about some people?

00:12:20.000 I forgot the exact examples, but... No, Gab is kind of wild.

00:12:22.000 Gab, you know, their policy is if the First Amendment allows it.

00:12:26.000 And then I said, yeah, but the First Amendment does allow doxxing. 0.96

00:12:28.000 And he's like, well, there is an exception.

00:12:30.000 Now, that's still an interesting point because there was a great conversation that happened to Tucker Carlson a couple of years ago where someone said, you know, Tucker was talking about censorship and free speech and hate speech.

00:12:39.000 And they said, Tucker, would you allow someone on your show to say a bunch of racial slurs?

00:12:43.000 And he was like, no, of course not.

00:12:44.000 He's like, exactly, because you have policies for your platform.

00:12:48.000 Now the issue there is, while I agree we don't like racists, Fox News, Tucker Carlson's show, is his show where he has a space for one guest to come and sit down, and of course he can curate that.

00:12:58.000 Twitter is claiming to be this open public forum that has actually taken over the town center.

00:13:03.000 In that case, Yeah, we shouldn't all be just the arbiters of truth and morality determining who is or isn't allowed to speak.

00:13:09.000 Don't kill those.

00:13:11.000 But you want to grab it and just not crush it.

00:13:13.000 It's too late for that one now.

00:13:15.000 Well, no, no, I'm saying if you squish it, it stinks.

00:13:18.000 They're stink bugs.

00:13:19.000 So just ball it up and throw it in the trash. 0.69

00:13:21.000 I'll be right back, guys.

00:13:22.000 You gotta give a warning about the stink bugs.

00:13:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, when you crush them, it...

00:13:25.000 I thought you should just let him climb on King Kong.

00:13:27.000 I'm ruthless.

00:13:28.000 I'm hawkish.

00:13:29.000 I was taking that bug out.

00:13:30.000 Yeah, but stink bugs are clumsy. 0.97

00:13:31.000 You don't need to bomb that.

00:13:32.000 Stink bugs don't do anything. 0.97

00:13:33.000 They're funny. 1.00

00:13:34.000 They're just stupid. 1.00

00:13:35.000 I'm just anti-bug. 1.00

00:13:36.000 I don't know.

00:13:37.000 It's irrational.

00:13:38.000 Climb King Kong.

00:13:40.000 Usually we just watch them do their thing because stink bugs are everywhere. 0.99

00:13:42.000 I was, I was actually sort of distracted.

00:13:44.000 I saw a couple of you guys looking and I was like, I'm going to take it out.

00:13:48.000 I saw these swords around too, I got a little bit excited.

00:13:50.000 I was walking through the hallway in here and a stinkbug was on the wall and saw me.

00:13:57.000 And what the stinkbugs do as a defensive move is just kamikaze.

00:14:00.000 They just jump to the floor.

00:14:02.000 And so I'm walking and it just like falls and you hear it go. 1.00

00:14:05.000 And I'm just like, this is a stupid thing. 0.99

00:14:08.000 We were talking about something important a moment ago. 0.99

00:14:12.000 I do think though that, I mean, we're talking about Trump and Trump being on platforms and Twitter says they have no plans to put him back on, but that doesn't mean they won't at some point.

00:14:22.000 Can you imagine if Trump was back on Twitter?

00:14:24.000 It would be really a lot of fun.

00:14:25.000 Biden would be hitting his life alert.

00:14:27.000 Oh my goodness.

00:14:29.000 He's life alert.

00:14:31.000 What a fantastic day that would be.

00:14:32.000 Could you imagine if we got to see him tweeting throughout this presidency? 1.00

00:14:37.000 What would be great would be Trump replying to Biden's stupid things. 0.99

00:14:41.000 Like Biden's video last week where he told all American parents to affirm their kids in gender transition. 0.99

00:14:47.000 And it's just like, what do you say?

00:14:49.000 You don't know what that means.

00:14:51.000 This is a true story.

00:14:53.000 When I was a little kid, I told my mom I wanted to be a pumpkin.

00:14:55.000 Nice.

00:14:56.000 I'm not making that up.

00:14:57.000 And she said, you are my little pumpkin, too.

00:15:00.000 This is like actually a true story.

00:15:02.000 I was like a little kid.

00:15:03.000 My mom would be like, he says he wants to be a pumpkin.

00:15:05.000 And it's like, yeah, I was a little kid.

00:15:07.000 Could you imagine if they were like, well, all right, I guess.

00:15:10.000 And then just like put a pumpkin over my body.

00:15:13.000 Why is it only gender we're supposed to affirm? 0.98

00:15:16.000 You know, why aren't we supposed to affirm dinosaurs or dogs or when the kid walks around thinking that they're a cat or a robot?

00:15:22.000 My son for a while thought maybe he was a robot.

00:15:24.000 I do have a true story of the dangers of this kind of affirmation.

00:15:26.000 Like why are we not affirming kids who think they're superheroes and believe they can fly? Why aren't we affirming

00:15:32.000 those kids?

00:15:32.000 I can jump off the line I do have a true story of the dangers of this kind of

00:15:37.000 affirmation When I was a little kid there was a Nintendo game called

00:15:41.000 mighty bomb Jack and so I took a

00:15:43.000 plastic shopping bag and put it over my arms like a kid and started jumping on the bed yelling mighty bomb Jack and I

00:15:49.000 fell and I banged my leg on the bedpost. I started screaming and

00:15:52.000 almost seriously hurt myself If only see my parents they affirmed me.

00:15:57.000 They know I have a similar story They didn't actually this true story when I was a little kid.

00:16:01.000 Yeah when I was like affirm or maybe a little bit of neglect No, it was good for a kid.

00:16:06.000 A little kid was running around doing dumb kid things. 0.87

00:16:08.000 I think that's a good thing.

00:16:10.000 I had a Buzz Lightyear costume and I jumped off my couch, attempting to fly when I was like two or three and broke my ankle.

00:16:14.000 So did you really similar instances?

00:16:16.000 Well, I, I thought I could be a ballerina and so I got signed up for ballet lessons and during a recital, I fell off a stage.

00:16:16.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 Yes.

00:16:23.000 Oh my goodness.

00:16:24.000 They clearly should have kept me home.

00:16:25.000 That's a good affirmation.

00:16:28.000 Your parents should encourage you to do arts and sports and all that stuff.

00:16:32.000 What they should encourage you to do is like, I don't know, take chemicals that permanently alter your body when you're too young.

00:16:37.000 They shouldn't kill their grandchildren before you've even had your first sexual experience.

00:16:41.000 Well, I think this one's particularly simple. 0.95

00:16:44.000 You wouldn't give a little girl breast implants to affirm her sexuality. 1.00

00:16:47.000 You wouldn't give a little boy breast implants either.

00:16:49.000 I don't understand why there's even a difference.

00:16:50.000 My son once asked me what I would say if he told me he wanted to wear nail polish to school, and I told him that I would say absolutely not.

00:16:56.000 And then I was like, ask me what I would say if you were a girl.

00:17:00.000 And I was like, you would also not be allowed to wear nail polish to school.

00:17:04.000 I don't care what your sex is. 1.00

00:17:05.000 There's no nail polish in school.

00:17:06.000 I want to talk about Elon Musk though.

00:17:08.000 Let's jump over to this article from the Post Millennial.

00:17:11.000 Twitter employees triggered by Elon Musk buying ownership stake in platform.

00:17:16.000 Elon Musk is now one of the largest shareholders this we know.

00:17:19.000 And we have a collection of tweets from employees.

00:17:21.000 This is Andy.

00:17:22.000 Andy Ngo did all of this reporting.

00:17:25.000 Cassie Nick Rumbaugh, a data scientist, is among the employees and contractors very upset, saying, a prominent transphobe buying a large stake in Twitter is not at all funny.

00:17:34.000 I think it is.

00:17:34.000 Yeah, it's very funny.

00:17:35.000 I think it's hysterical.

00:17:38.000 Big laughs.

00:17:39.000 I'm honestly kind of terrified right now.

00:17:42.000 You see, the, the reason why I don't respect you, Cassie, because you literally have nothing to fear because Elon Musk isn't going to do anything to you.

00:17:50.000 Not only not, I mean, we're sitting here being like, I doubt Elon will actually even get anything done.

00:17:54.000 And you're like, I'm terrified of what?

00:17:56.000 Of some guy who lives far away from you.

00:17:59.000 You've never met before who was going to do nothing.

00:18:00.000 I just, you know, I'd be more worried about, I'm more worried about a wasp coming through the window.

00:18:06.000 Because sometimes those WAFs, they climb through the edge of the window. 0.99

00:18:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:08.000 Those are scary. 0.87

00:18:09.000 Those white Anglo-Saxon Protestants breaking in. 0.89

00:18:11.000 That's right.

00:18:12.000 They got the gin, you know, they're just getting drunk over there.

00:18:15.000 Here we go, here's one.

00:18:17.000 We've got Gerard Taylor says, my current sentiment, stock is up, yay, but what about our company culture?

00:18:23.000 Pronouns.

00:18:23.000 It's one guy.

00:18:24.000 They all have the pronouns.

00:18:27.000 Maybe he's on the board of directors.

00:18:29.000 Once a year, he'll come in and vote on stuff.

00:18:31.000 And the day-to-day operations will be run by other people.

00:18:33.000 He's going to be one guy voting on the board.

00:18:36.000 He's not going to be able to do anything dramatic.

00:18:37.000 He's going to go to the other investment companies and say, look, if you want this to make more money and you want to fix the platform, you've got to give a little bit back.

00:18:46.000 You're not going to see Trump.

00:18:47.000 You're not going to see Alex Jones.

00:18:49.000 They're going to keep their misgendering policies, but they're going to do little things here and there.

00:18:53.000 Little tidbits, like the Babylon Bee will get reinstated.

00:18:57.000 And conservatives will be like, yay!

00:18:59.000 And then Elon will be like, see, look, now people are building confidence in the platform coming back.

00:19:02.000 You had Truth Social.

00:19:03.000 You had Getter.

00:19:04.000 You have Gab.

00:19:05.000 You have all these platforms trying to compete Parler.

00:19:07.000 You need to stop that.

00:19:08.000 Elon's going to be like, here's how you do it.

00:19:10.000 And very little will change.

00:19:10.000 in my opinion. I hate that those are all copycats too though. Like I hate that the so-called

00:19:15.000 conservatives never have new ideas. It's not a fresh type of social media. It's literally here,

00:19:20.000 let me copy and paste Twitter and then have our own version of what we're going to censor

00:19:24.000 and then you know hope that we're successful. Literally just steal...

00:19:27.000 Yes.

00:19:28.000 And also not offer anything on our platform that would get regular people to want to use it.

00:19:28.000 Twitter's idea.

00:19:33.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 I mean, there's nothing, there's no appeal to these websites other than this is where conservatives can go.

00:19:38.000 And what's the point if we're only talking to ourselves?

00:19:41.000 It's like there's a big stadium.

00:19:42.000 Yeah, that's really the interesting thing, too, is why would you migrate over to these other platforms?

00:19:47.000 You know, the thing with Facebook, I keep wanting to get rid of Facebook, but my whole family chat is on Facebook, and so it's like if I want to know when the reunion is, I have to Stay on Facebook and find out.

00:19:58.000 But I do think that it's key to have something new, like you guys are talking about.

00:20:03.000 If you're going to invent something new in an existing space, you have to have a reason for it.

00:20:10.000 And none of these reasons, these are like ideological reasons, but they're not operational or aesthetic reasons.

00:20:16.000 Yeah, well it's hilarious because oftentimes conservatives will look at something that the left has completely dominated and they'll go, oh man, the left created this new thing that they then ended up exerting disproportionate control on.

00:20:28.000 How can we do that?

00:20:30.000 I'll tell you.

00:20:30.000 By inventing a new thing, you then exert a disproportionate amount of control, and that control can be in favor of free speech rather than banning left-wing people, but they completely missed the point because, as you said, what we need is innovation.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, and I think also Zuckerberg and Dorsey probably didn't start off as leftists.

00:20:45.000 I mean, the default, as they were coming up and doing whatever they were doing and going to school, the default was leftism.

00:20:53.000 So that was their moral being already.

00:20:54.000 Zuckerberg used to talk about freedom.

00:20:56.000 Why does anybody want to be on Twitter?

00:20:58.000 Why does anybody want to be on Twitter?

00:20:59.000 For what reason do you want to be on Twitter?

00:21:01.000 To hurt other people's feelings or maybe have your feelings hurt.

00:21:04.000 Pretty much value the platform.

00:21:07.000 News and memes?

00:21:08.000 Yes.

00:21:08.000 The only reason conservatives want to be on the platform is because Twitter is the space where prominent politicians, personalities, journalists are sharing ideas.

00:21:17.000 It's where a lot of ideas originate.

00:21:19.000 The problem is the left has no interest in conservatives or libertarians or post-liberals for that matter, so there's literally nothing you gain from being on the platform other than talking to people who already agree with you.

00:21:29.000 The left can go on Twitter and say something.

00:21:31.000 Conservatives will see it.

00:21:32.000 Liberals will see it.

00:21:33.000 Conservatives go on the platform and say something.

00:21:35.000 Liberals never see it.

00:21:36.000 That is kind of interesting, isn't it? 0.99

00:21:37.000 So there's literally no benefit to anyone associated with libertarianism, civil libertarianism, true liberalism, not the woke garbage. 0.90

00:21:47.000 There's no reason to be on the platform. 0.93

00:21:49.000 There's going to be some high-profile journalist who's going to be like, I need to go on TV and cry because people were mean to me!

00:21:55.000 And it's like, that's funny because the New York Times and MSNBC don't talk to us about the fact that we've been swatted seven times or had the bomb squad call to our house. 0.58

00:22:05.000 Me tweeting that does nothing to affect the corporate garbage world that I no longer care about.

00:22:11.000 You don't think you have a lot of liberals following you? 0.92

00:22:13.000 I do.

00:22:14.000 Yeah.

00:22:14.000 But like, my point is, conservatives, libertarians, moderates, have no influence with the establishment, and they're not going to on any of these platforms.

00:22:22.000 So why care about being there?

00:22:25.000 If you can't get your followers on other platforms, well then you've got a cultural problem.

00:22:28.000 Well then you'll be in an echo chamber though, because if you go on Gab, you're really only speaking- Twitter is already an echo chamber, that's my point!

00:22:34.000 I think you have a bigger spectrum than you would on Gab, though.

00:22:37.000 I wouldn't know because I've only been on Gab for a couple of weeks, but what I saw there wasn't as politically diverse.

00:22:43.000 There's more to Twitter, too, than just politics.

00:22:45.000 And on Gab and these other social media platforms, it feels like it's solely focused on conservative politics.

00:22:51.000 And then it's the most extreme of them, too.

00:22:53.000 I feel like it's the same thing that happens once you...

00:22:56.000 Redline, or not redline, where you gerrymander a district and you make them more red and deeper blue, then you're just gonna get more extreme candidates who are willing to pander harder.

00:23:04.000 But this is part of a larger problem, which is that conservatives only have politics, right?

00:23:09.000 Politics is the only sphere of our culture in which conservatives have any stake or any or like any, you know, ability to affect any change.

00:23:18.000 Conservatives don't have a stake in, you know, publishing or the arts or anywhere else.

00:23:22.000 And so that's the bigger issue.

00:23:24.000 That is changing.

00:23:25.000 I'm working on it.

00:23:26.000 It is changing.

00:23:27.000 And, you know, that's interesting.

00:23:28.000 And conservative counterculture in the arts, I think, is a movement that's about Thank you.

00:23:33.000 You know that should be about aesthetics. It should be about interesting work. It shouldn't be ideological

00:23:38.000 Yeah, and the work that currently exists on the left side of the spectrum is entirely ideological and it's

00:23:44.000 ideological at this point by design So what we need to do is work, you know to like have good

00:23:49.000 content Which I think you know you guys are both doing that is not

00:23:53.000 political and that has and the left is more bearing on culture 0.96

00:23:57.000 Yeah, the left is producing more and more ideological garbage that people don't because it's shitty and nobody 0.94

00:24:02.000 wants to watch it exactly Well, it's it is there's there's two big things happening 0.97

00:24:06.000 with with liberal arts And it's that one there's a severe lack of talent

00:24:15.000 Um, probably due to the fact that meritocracy is out the window for these people.

00:24:19.000 So when you are hiring people for like the sake of your ideological points, you're going to get someone who's never done the job before, has no talent doing it, but that doesn't matter because everyone should have an equal, it should be equity.

00:24:30.000 So everyone should just do this job.

00:24:32.000 It's very obvious when these people have this ideology where it's like, take the tools from the farmer and give it to the farmhands.

00:24:38.000 Oh no, they don't know how to farm and then everyone starves to death. 0.98

00:24:41.000 That same principle applies to every other industry.

00:24:44.000 But the other issue is just that You've got a lack of talent, but also a desire to inject ideology, which doesn't work in these shows.

00:24:52.000 No, it makes bad art.

00:24:54.000 It makes very poor work. 1.00

00:24:55.000 A great example is the kind of garbage I watch. 0.97

00:24:59.000 I thought you were about to say Freedom Tunes. 0.99

00:25:01.000 I was like, why you gotta come at me that way?

00:25:02.000 She's looking right at me.

00:25:03.000 She's like, I have a really good example right in front of me.

00:25:06.000 Except for the Fauci episodes.

00:25:08.000 I don't need to hear it.

00:25:09.000 If you look at the Star Trek stuff, it used to be good, and now I haven't watched a lot of the new Star Trek, but I do watch Red Letter Media talking about it, and then I sort of like dip in a little bit.

00:25:18.000 It's a disaster, and it's all ideological, and it's like there's this affirmative action hire on the new Picard. 0.84

00:25:26.000 She's terrible.

00:25:27.000 What do you mean? 0.82

00:25:29.000 Raffi? 0.81

00:25:29.000 Is this one character? 0.81

00:25:31.000 But how is that? 1.00

00:25:32.000 So she's very stupid, and it's sort of impossible to believe that she could have gotten into Starfleet. 0.99

00:25:39.000 Oh, well, I mean, that's just... That's like a plot choice about a character. 1.00

00:25:44.000 But it's poorly done.

00:25:46.000 Very poorly done.

00:25:47.000 The bigger issue I have is...

00:25:47.000 Sure, sure.

00:25:49.000 Picard is one of the first, I believe, the first follow-up to the 90s series, which ended with Deep Space Nine.

00:25:59.000 And since then, all they've been doing is prequels.

00:26:01.000 Why?

00:26:02.000 Because we are culturally stagnant.

00:26:03.000 Yes, that is true.

00:26:04.000 We are culturally stagnant.

00:26:06.000 I just want to clarify to everybody, you know I'm a big Star Trek fan.

00:26:08.000 You don't got to be a Star Trek fan to understand this.

00:26:10.000 In the 90s, we had new Star Trek shows.

00:26:13.000 They were wildly popular.

00:26:14.000 Star Trek The Next Generation was one of the most popular shows of all time.

00:26:17.000 It was syndicated on three networks.

00:26:19.000 That's huge.

00:26:19.000 Terrible.

00:26:20.000 After that, they said, what do we do now?

00:26:23.000 I don't know, do a prequel.

00:26:24.000 Now a lot of people do like Enterprise, but it's a prequel.

00:26:27.000 We're just like, go back in time.

00:26:28.000 I thought it was boring.

00:26:29.000 And take existing stories.

00:26:30.000 Where are we now?

00:26:31.000 Discovery, CBS, a prequel.

00:26:34.000 Stacey Abrams is the president.

00:26:36.000 Terrible, terrible.

00:26:37.000 They're accused of ripping off the story.

00:26:38.000 Here's the best part.

00:26:39.000 They start Picard, which is, finally, the 90s Star Trek gets a sequel series.

00:26:45.000 And what is it about?

00:26:47.000 The first season is basically Member Berries.

00:26:50.000 Remember Ryker?

00:26:51.000 Remember Picard?

00:26:52.000 Remember Data?

00:26:53.000 And it's like, okay, yeah, I'm a big fan of all those things.

00:26:55.000 It's fun to see them again.

00:26:56.000 What's season two about?

00:26:58.000 They go back in time!

00:26:59.000 Because something happened in 2024 to turn Earth into a human supremacist planet. 0.57

00:27:05.000 And the fascists must be stopped and I'm like, why is Star Trek at the same time that I live?

00:27:11.000 No, I want to watch Even if you're trying to cram your worldview into something where it otherwise doesn't belong try to come up with some clever Analogy for instead of going humans.

00:27:27.000 We're gonna talk about human supremacy.

00:27:29.000 Do you guys get it and watching at home?

00:27:31.000 Do you get it?

00:27:31.000 Do you get what we're actually talking about?

00:27:32.000 It's so obnoxious What? 0.96

00:27:36.000 Are there any gay people? 0.98

00:27:37.000 Well, in the reboot movies, they made Sulu gay.

00:27:41.000 Like, they did a scene that didn't need to be in the movie.

00:27:45.000 This is one of the issues.

00:27:46.000 I think Takei was actually not cool with that, even though he's gay. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Right, he said, make new characters.

00:27:51.000 So, in the movies, they did a scene where it's like they're coming to port or whatever, and then Sulu runs up to a guy who's got a daughter and they kiss, and it's just like, that did nothing for the movie.

00:28:01.000 I don't care if the characters are gay. 0.98

00:28:03.000 John Constantine.

00:28:04.000 Do you guys know who John Constantine is?

00:28:06.000 DC character.

00:28:07.000 They did a movie with Keanu Reeves.

00:28:09.000 It wasn't really true to the original character.

00:28:11.000 He's an amazing character.

00:28:12.000 This character has been bi since 1992.

00:28:15.000 So he has boyfriends and girlfriends, and it's a part of his character arc.

00:28:19.000 So when I see a show, I'm watching DC's Legends of Tomorrow, and he's got a boyfriend, I'm like, oh, I get it.

00:28:25.000 His motivation is that his boyfriend's soul was trapped in hell.

00:28:28.000 I'm like, yeah, I understand that.

00:28:30.000 I have no issue with that.

00:28:31.000 That's fine.

00:28:32.000 It's when they take characters and they put things in plots that don't make sense for the sake of just virtue signaling to their audience, like, look what we did.

00:28:38.000 I feel shoehorned in.

00:28:39.000 I feel like Chris Ruffo found something that, like, with the Disney, one of the Disney directors saying that they're trying to make, like, 50% of the characters LGBTQ.

00:28:46.000 Well, that wasn't just the director saying that.

00:28:47.000 They have that, I think, on their, like, mission.

00:28:50.000 I think they have that written down, that by 2050 it would be... It's insane.

00:28:54.000 And that's just not a very interesting way to do it It's not it doesn't make for good stories to say I'm going to have this character with this specific characteristics when you're writing characters You have to like listen to your characters.

00:29:06.000 You have to invent them They have to be authentic and real and you can't just like apply stuff to your characters and say, you know Here's my character Mary and she's gonna be all of these things and I'm just gonna make that work and shove them into that character It has to be real.

00:29:20.000 I'll tell you I'll tell you what I think woke Plot writing doesn't work.

00:29:24.000 You have to understand the motivations to feel for the story.

00:29:29.000 And the example I'll give you is when the Batman animated series won, I think it was the first Emmy, I could be wrong, for an animated series.

00:29:37.000 And it was with their episode in The Origins of Mr. Freeze.

00:29:40.000 Do you guys know this story?

00:29:41.000 Comic book villains used to be one-dimensional.

00:29:44.000 I'm going to take over the world!

00:29:45.000 Nyahaha! 0.72

00:29:46.000 And then, in the Batman Animated Series, they write the story about a scientist whose wife is dying of a terminal disease so he cryogenically freezes her, and then starts misappropriating corporate funds from his job to try and find a cure.

00:29:58.000 When the boss finds out, he says, you're stealing my money, shut it down.

00:30:01.000 He's like, no, you'll kill Nora, you can't.

00:30:04.000 So they get into a fight with the security guards, the cryochemicals spray all over him, he becomes Mr. Freeze.

00:30:09.000 His entire motivation's that his wife is dying, and he will stop at nothing to save her life.

00:30:13.000 And so it's kind of sad.

00:30:15.000 But he's a bad dude, because he hurts people, and then it ends with him in his prison cell, like, saying, like, oh, Nora, and he's holding a snow globe, and it's, like, miserably sad this guy became a villain.

00:30:25.000 That's, like, wow, those motivations, man.

00:30:28.000 When you see these woke stories like The Craft, where they put a spell on a guy to turn him gay, I'm like, What is your motivation here?

00:30:35.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:30:35.000 Like, haha, let's make a jock gay. 0.97

00:30:37.000 And I'm like, I don't understand what that has to do with, like, your motivations in life. 0.79

00:30:42.000 Are you just meeting people?

00:30:43.000 That's LGBTQ representation, Tim.

00:30:45.000 They're trying to tell us that that's where gay people come from.

00:30:47.000 That's what they're trying to say. 0.64

00:30:50.000 In Legends of Tomorrow, John Constantine He's this, uh, he's like an exorcist.

00:30:56.000 He has a boyfriend.

00:30:57.000 His boyfriend's soul gets damned to hell, and this makes him distraught.

00:31:02.000 I'm like, I understand that motivation.

00:31:04.000 I don't, you know, have attraction to dudes, but I can understand caring about someone.

00:31:07.000 I understand that motivation.

00:31:09.000 A lot of these woke shows are motivated by weird things, like when, um...

00:31:14.000 Brie Larson and Captain Marvel steals the clothing of the guy on the motorcycle.

00:31:17.000 I'm like, what was the purpose of that plot point?

00:31:20.000 Was it to show us that Brie is just a bad person and that feminists are mean? 1.00

00:31:25.000 Why in the story is she going to steal a guy's clothes and steal his motorcycle from him? 1.00

00:31:29.000 And I've said this before a number of times, but it's really important whenever you're making anything, and this holds true for what we're doing with Freedom Tunes as well, even though we're talking about politics.

00:31:38.000 When I'm making something, I'm not thinking, what point can I get across?

00:31:41.000 What's the agenda here?

00:31:43.000 That's very rarely the case.

00:31:44.000 It's usually just looking at a situation and saying, what do I think is funny?

00:31:47.000 And obviously, because I am a conservative person, the things that I'm going to think are funny are probably things other conservative people are going to think is funny when they look at the issue, or are funny when they look at the issue. 0.95

00:31:56.000 If you go into it going, I desperately need the audience to know every single piece of my political worldview related to this issue, you're just gonna make garbage.

00:32:05.000 It's gonna be really, really boring.

00:32:07.000 Someone superchatted us, and we'll go back in the superchat section and read through it, but I do want to point out a bit of what your point was, and this is from...

00:32:16.000 I can't.

00:32:16.000 Tourist alarm or whatever.

00:32:18.000 But he was saying that before the Empire, before the Dark Days, and this is another who tweeted this.

00:32:24.000 I'm sorry, not tweeted, who posted it?

00:32:25.000 TheyEddie.

00:32:26.000 He was saying before the Empire, before the Dark Days, all of these social media platforms were conservative.

00:32:31.000 And that's mostly true.

00:32:34.000 Remember when Phil DeFranco, he hosted Gary Johnson on his show, Libertarian.

00:32:41.000 Mike.com, which went woke, originally was all about libertarianism and Ron Paul.

00:32:46.000 Interesting.

00:32:46.000 I don't remember that.

00:32:47.000 Twitter was Donald Trump and conservatives and it was dominated.

00:32:51.000 Twitter was a lot of journalists who are talking and a lot of news organizations getting no traction.

00:32:56.000 And then conservatives were generating massive attention and engagement.

00:33:00.000 Now all these platforms were taken over by the far left, kicked out all the people on the right, and they become stagnant, dry, boring and broken.

00:33:07.000 Well, because they're only interested in their ideological perspective.

00:33:11.000 They're not interested in new ideas.

00:33:13.000 They're interested in entrenching and enforcing the existing one.

00:33:17.000 It's so troubling that all these companies have become ideological in one direction or another because then it also leads other companies to also want to become ideological.

00:33:25.000 So now we have Disney trying to inject whatever liberal values, but then we have the Daily Wire who, you know, is a news company, right?

00:33:33.000 They hire journalists, they make news podcasts, but they're also getting in the kids entertainment business.

00:33:38.000 I'm not sure if they're going to inject any values in their content, but it just sucks that every company now has developed a political angle one way or another because, I don't know, if that's what the market has to bear, we force it onto these companies.

00:33:51.000 The Daily Wire realized that, as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream from culture, and for too long conservatives have neglected to be producing any kind of cultural content.

00:34:02.000 Typically, conservatives just complain about stuff, and then they're content to complain about it.

00:34:08.000 It's like, imagine being on the Titanic and complaining that it's sinking, and then not doing anything to save yourself, save others, or stop the sinking from happening.

00:34:15.000 And that's what it was for a very, very long time.

00:34:17.000 The Daily Wire is like, let's start bailing water, or at least build a life raft.

00:34:23.000 So their content probably will have values in it, but it's going to be values we recognize and probably like.

00:34:29.000 Well, and the values should come into the work in an organic fashion.

00:34:32.000 Exactly.

00:34:32.000 As well.

00:34:33.000 I mean, that's what it should be like.

00:34:35.000 I remember this was years ago now, but I was commissioned to write a play for the Williamstown Theatre Festival.

00:34:41.000 And I was working with a director who was older and she was single and she was trying to decide if she should have a child, even though she didn't have a partner.

00:34:50.000 And so we were talking about this and I was like, OK, well, you know, this is what she wanted to do a play about.

00:34:55.000 I was like, OK, cool.

00:34:56.000 So we started digging into it and very, very organically, the take of the play started to be, No, you probably shouldn't have a child without, you know, a family structure without, not intentionally, you probably should not intentionally create a fatherless child, you know, on purpose just to satisfy your own pleasure at this point and that was a very organic perspective and it ended up

00:35:27.000 Not getting produced and getting me into a lot of trouble and I didn't stay at the festival very long Yeah, but it wasn't or it wasn't I what I didn't go into it saying I want to write a play about the integrity of the family unit That's just sort of what happened was I wrote a play that was about taking responsibility for your reproductive material You know, yeah No, absolutely. 0.60

00:35:47.000 And I would agree with you.

00:35:48.000 This stuff has to come about organically.

00:35:49.000 All entertainment is going to have values in it.

00:35:51.000 People just can't escape this.

00:35:52.000 And it's part of the reason why storytelling has been so central to human culture and civilization, because we get our moral values from the stories that we tell each other, the stories that we're told as children, that we pass on to our children.

00:36:05.000 And so the idea that they're going to be value neutral is incoherent.

00:36:10.000 It's basically an impossibility.

00:36:12.000 There's no point to a value neutral story necessarily, because how would it exist?

00:36:15.000 And it's exactly, it's not even possible.

00:36:18.000 The question is, are these perspectives developing organically because someone's trying to tell a story and their worldview is inevitably going to work itself into it, or is this a piece of propaganda which exists explicitly to get me to accept something I might not otherwise accept?

00:36:33.000 That's something interesting too that I think a lot about, like Bible stories, right?

00:36:38.000 So you have a lot of, you know, there's been a lot of critique about the Bible and like

00:36:42.000 from a liberal worldview that this is, you know, anti-everybody or whatever.

00:36:47.000 But if you look at the Bible, like the stories are not telling you how things should be necessarily

00:36:53.000 in the Old Testament.

00:36:54.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

00:36:55.000 They're telling you how things are, right?

00:36:57.000 These are our ancestors expressing their perspective on life and culture and the world as they're living in it.

00:37:05.000 And they're giving you that perspective.

00:37:06.000 No, it's an interesting combination because there are obviously moments that are instructive,

00:37:11.000 but it's not as if because something is described in scripture that it's being approved.

00:37:16.000 Exactly.

00:37:17.000 And that's so interesting.

00:37:20.000 You know, and there's, well, we could go on about this for a while, but there's so many

00:37:23.000 interesting stories where you can see, you know, the trajectory of something is not what

00:37:28.000 you thought, like when Joseph gets sold into slavery in Egypt.

00:37:31.000 And it turns out that if Joseph hadn't been sold into slavery in Egypt, all of the Israelites 0.97

00:37:36.000 would have starved to death.

00:37:38.000 So what was the right thing to do?

00:37:39.000 I don't know.

00:37:40.000 Like, that's fascinating.

00:37:41.000 Exactly.

00:37:41.000 I want to mention this.

00:37:42.000 I don't take a more liberal interpretation.

00:37:44.000 I really do believe in the Bible.

00:37:46.000 But at the same time, I find it fascinating that basically every religious text that I'm familiar with is narrative in some sense.

00:37:53.000 It's not just a list of things that you should and shouldn't do.

00:37:57.000 There's some of that, right, when you look at a catechism, for example, that lays out the rules.

00:38:00.000 But it's so clear that humans understand through story in the strongest possible way.

00:38:05.000 Well, that's the Greeks. 0.98

00:38:06.000 It's everything.

00:38:07.000 Here's something interesting.

00:38:08.000 The old stories... I read this, so you guys will have to tell me if it's correct or not.

00:38:16.000 But I was reading this opinion piece about heroes of the olden days, like Hercules and these ancient heroes who would challenge the gods, fight against them, or the Titans.

00:38:27.000 Today, our heroes are all a part of the establishment and the authority.

00:38:30.000 Superman and Batman.

00:38:31.000 Well, as much as they're sometimes at odds, like Batman is a vigilante, they still call upon him and he still upholds the status quo.

00:38:38.000 Superman does the same thing.

00:38:40.000 I think a lot of comics have done a great job exploring these ideas in real ways that were thought-provoking, challenging certain, you know, rigid moral standards.

00:38:51.000 We had Captain America.

00:38:53.000 He's basically propaganda in World War II.

00:38:56.000 Then you have this arc where he becomes nomad.

00:38:59.000 He's like, I can't stand for this.

00:39:00.000 Or you have Civil War, where Captain America's like, I will not stand for the government forcing people to register.

00:39:04.000 And then you have the industrialist Tony Stark, who's like, do what the government wants, the corporation working with government.

00:39:11.000 These ideas were really interesting, and it made these comics from one-dimensional to multi-dimensional, challenging our own worldview, but in positive ways.

00:39:19.000 Now, instead of being like, here's an interesting character arc.

00:39:23.000 Captain America believes in freedom.

00:39:25.000 The government wants you to register.

00:39:27.000 How would he handle that? 0.97

00:39:29.000 Now it's just like, you're all racists and you're all bigots, and bigots should be punished and racists should be excised.

00:39:34.000 So the wokeness in content is just becoming, it's reverting back to the one-dimensional aspect of old comics that's just, is boring.

00:39:41.000 Well, there was such an interesting thing that happened, and bizarre, when Barack Obama became president and when he was running, which is, All of the people who had said up to that point, question authority, started saying, trust the government.

00:39:53.000 The president is your friend.

00:39:55.000 And it's like, it was, you know, people forgot that Barack Obama was just a politician, you know, just like all the other politicians.

00:40:03.000 He's very similar to all of the politicians who have ruled our country.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, but he had that painting that said, hope.

00:40:11.000 Sure.

00:40:11.000 Right.

00:40:11.000 Yeah.

00:40:12.000 Well, Shepard Fairey had the painting.

00:40:14.000 He was supposed to end racism, though.

00:40:16.000 I feel like that was supposed to be the deal with Obama.

00:40:18.000 He was supposed to end the racism.

00:40:21.000 But now people say that, you know, the fact that we had a black president is doesn't mean anything at all in terms of the progress away from being a racist country exactly and they'll never say these kinds of things which i find it bizarre that's no exactly they'll never say these kinds of things beforehand right so when you're supposed to vote for obama it's look this is going to be a giant step towards ending racism of course they didn't say well look if we elect obama that is not at all going to prove that this is a non-racist country but obama based on values and not skin color

00:40:50.000 Obama wasn't even extremely liberal.

00:40:52.000 As I understand, I think he was against gay marriage when he announced.

00:40:56.000 He was against gay marriage when he announced.

00:40:58.000 But hold on, hold on.

00:40:59.000 That was a very different time.

00:41:00.000 He was pro universal health care.

00:41:01.000 He campaigned on that in 2007 and 8.

00:41:03.000 He also voted against the Born Alive Act in 2003 or 2002 as a senator.

00:41:08.000 So he was very far to the left on abortion.

00:41:10.000 And on a lot of economic issues he was as well.

00:41:12.000 I think basically no one in public life was in favor of gay marriage if they had a political career at that point.

00:41:18.000 Yeah, Hillary Clinton, I think in 2016, she wasn't even in favor of gay marriage.

00:41:21.000 Like, leaked emails came out or something.

00:41:23.000 Well, let's talk about families, though, because we have this.

00:41:25.000 This is a story from the New York Times.

00:41:27.000 This is huge.

00:41:28.000 Oklahoma lawmakers approved near total ban on abortion.

00:41:32.000 The measure is part of a wave of stringent abortion restrictions enacted by legislators in Republican-led states.

00:41:38.000 Lawmakers in Oklahoma on Tuesday approved a near total ban on abortion, making it the latest Republican-led state to forge ahead with these restrictions.

00:41:46.000 The measure, Senate Bill 612, would make performing an abortion, except to save the life of a pregnant woman in a medical emergency, a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of $100,000.

00:41:58.000 Now consider that in an emergency.

00:42:01.000 That means the doctor can be like, we've determined that, you know, if you keep carrying this baby within the span of a month or two, you and the baby will die, and that's still not a valid reason to have an abortion.

00:42:12.000 Unless, I guess you can argue that two months, that time duration, that duration is not a contributing factor into whether it is or isn't an emergency.

00:42:20.000 The felony goes to the doctor, not the mother.

00:42:22.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:42:23.000 So yes, performing the abortion.

00:42:24.000 So also, when you're talking about these instances of medical necessity, oftentimes what they're referring to is procedures which are not actually technically abortions, but could result in the death of the unborn child if they perform the operation to save the mother.

00:42:36.000 So I'm curious to know which exceptions are actually being made.

00:42:40.000 I think, check this out, this is really, really interesting.

00:42:43.000 They say if its passage came after Oklahoma became a major destination for women from Texas who were seeking abortions after that state enacted a law banning the procedure after about six weeks, a very early stage of pregnancy, if allowed to take effect, SB 612 would be devastating for both Oklahomans and Texans who continue to seek care in Oklahoma.

00:43:03.000 A coalition of abortion rights groups, including the ACLU of Oklahoma and Oklahoma, call for

00:43:07.000 reproductive justice, said in a statement, nearly half of the patients Oklahoma providers

00:43:11.000 are currently seeing are medical refugees from Texas.

00:43:15.000 Now Oklahomans could face a future where they would have no place left in their state to

00:43:19.000 go to seek this basic health care.

00:43:22.000 I want to point out, man, I was, I was, I asked this question before.

00:43:26.000 I want to avoid making very hard predictions, but I believe abortion may be a major catalyst for this, this looming civil war or whatever conflict we're in.

00:43:37.000 We're at the point now where it seems things have calmed down.

00:43:40.000 There's a meme where it's like, where'd anti-fund BLM go?

00:43:42.000 People must have not been paying their bills.

00:43:44.000 And I'm just like, yo, it's winter.

00:43:45.000 Come on, calm Yeah, they can't be out there now.

00:43:47.000 Right.

00:43:47.000 It's too cold.

00:43:48.000 Summer is when things get crazy and they tend to.

00:43:50.000 They only want to fight fascism when the weather's good.

00:43:52.000 It's weird.

00:43:53.000 But also take a look at what's happening politically with like January 6th, filing subpoenas against people.

00:43:59.000 They're having to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to combat these subpoenas. 0.91

00:44:02.000 They're being charged with contempt.

00:44:04.000 So it's still very much hot in terms of some kind of escalating conflict.

00:44:09.000 Right.

00:44:09.000 with Oklahoma outright being, we've got too many refugees from Texas who want abortion,

00:44:14.000 so we're going to ban it basically outright. This is going to be a major catalyst because

00:44:18.000 at the same time this is happening, Colorado does the inverse. The right to abortion in Colorado is

00:44:23.000 now guaranteed under state law with no restrictions. So my understanding is this is up to the point of

00:44:29.000 birth? Is that it? Well, I read the law and there were no limits or restrictions.

00:44:34.000 So probably, right?

00:44:37.000 I mean, there was there were no limitations at all.

00:44:39.000 It was a four page law.

00:44:42.000 And yeah, it did not.

00:44:44.000 It didn't say that you couldn't have an abortion at any point.

00:44:47.000 Blue states.

00:44:48.000 There's 15 states that are similar.

00:44:50.000 Colorado wanted to Colorado said that they wanted to be a sanctuary state for abortion and so did California and both of those California I know Was putting money in place in order to help women who are poor get there so that they could have their pregnancies terminated in the state and The point is there's no compromise on this issue at all anymore.

00:45:11.000 There used to be.

00:45:12.000 There used to be compromise.

00:45:13.000 Tulsi Gabbard saying safe, legal, and rare.

00:45:15.000 That used to be real.

00:45:16.000 I feel like that was even Bill Clinton.

00:45:18.000 It was.

00:45:19.000 That was the old idea, was safe, legal, and rare.

00:45:21.000 But where we are now is Oklahoma says no.

00:45:25.000 Colorado says no problem.

00:45:26.000 And there's like literally no middle ground of like, well maybe there are some conversations we have about medical issues.

00:45:32.000 Well, several years ago, a couple years ago, remember, it started, I think it was Lindy West started saying, shout your abortion.

00:45:32.000 Nope.

00:45:39.000 And there was this whole thing about, like, be proud of it.

00:45:41.000 And I think that totally backfired.

00:45:43.000 You know, I personally have never been in favor of abortion, but I've been like, OK, safe, legal and rare. 0.99

00:45:49.000 I guess that makes sense.

00:45:51.000 And then as soon as it started being like pro abortion, I was like, and I'm now entirely 100 percent thoroughly.

00:45:56.000 I don't think it's a catalyst for civil war, but I do think this is a catalyst for potential second Presidential term for Joe Biden because I think this is an issue that so many liberals and leftists are so passionate about Also, I feel like this is an issue that traditionally right-wingers only played lip service to I feel like the Republican Party It's made up of three core groups the neolibs the neocons and the traditionalists and the only people who really care about the issue are the traditionalists also like

00:46:24.000 Donald Trump only became pro-life when he was running for president to pay more lip service to this group.

00:46:30.000 Another issue is... Hold on, I gotta answer at least one of the points.

00:46:33.000 I disagree.

00:46:35.000 To Democrats, this is a virtue signal, but not a strong moral issue.

00:46:39.000 Democrats are not, do not, so the Democrat view on abortion is you're flushing away human waste. 0.96

00:46:46.000 They consider it no different than taking a dump in the toilet.

00:46:49.000 They say, right, so it's just, it's a clump of cells, who cares? 0.98

00:46:52.000 The conservative position is you murdered a baby.

00:46:55.000 There's a very strong conservative moral position opposed to this.

00:46:58.000 There is not a very strong moral position in support of it.

00:47:00.000 There's a virtue signal in support of it.

00:47:02.000 Do you think this is a number one issue for more Democrats or a number one issue for more Republicans?

00:47:06.000 It's a good question.

00:47:07.000 You think it's a number one issue for more Republicans?

00:47:09.000 I'd say Democrats because women's health means nothing more than abortion. 1.00

00:47:09.000 Hands down. 1.00

00:47:13.000 When we talk about women's rights in this country nowadays, we're exclusively talking about abortions.

00:47:17.000 That's true.

00:47:17.000 Yes, yes.

00:47:18.000 You can't take, like, Michelle Wolf, who goes on stage and goes, you get an abortion, and you get an abortion. 1.00

00:47:18.000 No, that's true. 1.00

00:47:21.000 The same issue that they faced in Texas was that people are just going to different places to get their abortions 0.52

00:47:27.000 And these are really just affecting poor people differently, but they will just go to other places to get their abortions

00:47:32.000 You can't take like Michelle Wolf who goes on stage and goes you get an abortion and you get it 1.00

00:47:37.000 that's disgusting and you can't take Lena Dunham was as she wished he had one and

00:47:40.000 Compare that in terms of she wished she had one even though she can't take that in terms of motivating factor and 0.98

00:47:46.000 compare it to Conservatives saying you are literally murdering babies and

00:47:50.000 we will stop you it's hard to get in the middle of this rhetoric

00:47:52.000 But one last point that's also gonna make this very difficult to enforce or one

00:47:57.000 Once it is illegal, or if Roe v. Wade was ever overturned, it would go back to the states.

00:48:01.000 But then in the states where it is illegal, the abortion pill and different medical technology exists such that abortions are extremely easy to have, even without having a doctor.

00:48:09.000 So because during COVID we weren't allowed to meet with doctors, you had to meet with a doctor to get yourself an abortion pill prescribed to you, but during COVID they lifted that because they didn't want people meeting with doctors.

00:48:19.000 Now, since they're changing that rule, They're getting abortion pills mailed in from different countries and different continents and there's not a lot you could do to stop this.

00:48:26.000 We're not going to start making this illegal for women to get the abortion pill off the market. 1.00

00:48:30.000 We're not going to jail them, right?

00:48:32.000 That's the worst political move to try to penalize the woman for getting an abortion. 1.00

00:48:35.000 I just think it's a losing issue.

00:48:36.000 I just think it's a losing issue.

00:48:38.000 I want to kind of interject here because this is a very important issue for me.

00:48:41.000 So you mentioned that left-wingers more or less see this as an arbitrary medical procedure that people are only opposing for these archaic religious reasons.

00:48:48.000 On the right, people see this as the termination of a human life.

00:48:52.000 Earlier we were talking about the fact that there used to be middle ground on this issue.

00:48:55.000 I think the fact that there isn't anymore just means that we've all become more honest with each other and with ourselves because this isn't an issue where there can be any middle ground.

00:49:01.000 Either you're slaughtering a child or you're not.

00:49:03.000 I think with respect to Looking at alternatives women may pursue if their state illegalizes abortion.

00:49:10.000 We know that even though people did flee to other states, overall abortion in Texas went down by about 60%.

00:49:17.000 So some lives are being saved by this law.

00:49:20.000 Again, it can be difficult to quantify.

00:49:22.000 But the more states outlaw abortion, the more or the fewer unborn children we will see dying.

00:49:27.000 And I don't think there's any pro-life or who's going to say that's not a win just because some people aren't following that law.

00:49:33.000 It's tragic when that law isn't followed.

00:49:34.000 It's tragic whenever an unborn child is killed.

00:49:37.000 But banning that and seeing it occur less often is a move in the right direction.

00:49:42.000 Liberals are motivated by tribalism, care, and fairness.

00:49:47.000 They will march if told to march, and they typically will get away with it.

00:49:50.000 If that means banging on the doors of the Supreme Court or Senate building because Brett Kavanaugh's there and they scream that he's a violator or whatever, if they're told to do it, they'll do it.

00:49:59.000 So you don't need abortion to motivate the left to go out and protest for something.

00:50:04.000 The right is motivated by very little.

00:50:06.000 This is one of the big issues that has motivated them to actually get out and protest.

00:50:09.000 In fact, there's a progressive pro-lifer right now.

00:50:13.000 She gave a press conference because apparently she had taken baby parts from a university that they got access to and she took them. 1.00

00:50:20.000 And I don't know exactly the full story.

00:50:23.000 Apparently she was giving burials to the babies or something to that effect. 1.00

00:50:26.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:50:28.000 People are trying to claim that she's like Gosnell 2 or something like that, but she's actually a progressive pro-lifer.

00:50:33.000 These were given to her like it was a whistleblower situation.

00:50:36.000 Oh, is that what it was?

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 So when it comes to pro-life, you really just have to look at it like, take a look at how the left describes the issue of abortion when they're like, what happens if you have a miscarriage and it's just a clump of cells versus a baby being killed.

00:50:52.000 Like, people will run into a burning building to save a baby.

00:50:54.000 They won't run into a burning building to take a dump.

00:50:57.000 There's a clear motivational distinction here.

00:51:01.000 Are you guys life at conceptioners?

00:51:03.000 I'm not pro-life, but that's a scientific fact.

00:51:07.000 Okay, Libby, if you don't mind, I can ask that to you, too.

00:51:10.000 If I think that life begins at conception.

00:51:12.000 Yeah, I think it probably does.

00:51:14.000 I do think, though, that we are telling women the wrong story.

00:51:17.000 I think we're telling the wrong narrative about what life is about, what meaning is, and what being a mother is all about.

00:51:25.000 We tell women that our culture tells women that their lives are limited when they become mothers, that it's going to put a damper on your ability to do stuff, right?

00:51:37.000 And you know, to a certain extent, yes, there are limitations.

00:51:40.000 Once you become a mother, you have to prioritize and you prioritize differently.

00:51:45.000 But it's not gonna ruin your life, right?

00:51:48.000 Being a mother actually makes your life that much better.

00:51:52.000 It's a terrific bond.

00:51:53.000 It's a very deep bond between mother and child.

00:51:55.000 This is why I'm, you know, I'm very pro motherhood.

00:52:00.000 And I think that it's important to tell women, poor women, because you're not seeing the over-educated white liberals running around getting their abortions.

00:52:10.000 They get one with their kid.

00:52:11.000 But you are seeing them running around getting antidepressants.

00:52:13.000 You are seeing that as well.

00:52:15.000 But women are losing their rights in a lot of other ways. 1.00

00:52:18.000 This is like the only right that women are allowed to fight for. 1.00

00:52:20.000 They're not allowed to fight to say that they are women. 1.00

00:52:24.000 They're not allowed to fight for bathrooms. 0.98

00:52:25.000 I don't want to deviate too far from what your point was.

00:52:29.000 I want to bring it back to what your point was.

00:52:30.000 I was saying, can I add something to my answer to your question?

00:52:33.000 Your question, you asked if life at conception, where were you going with it?

00:52:36.000 I was just gonna say, um, I want to reject that there isn't a middle ground on this issue because I do believe, I was looking up the stats to try to find it specifically, but I think most people are in the country, I think it says right now currently 59% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 39% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.

00:52:55.000 Wait, illegal?

00:52:56.000 I couldn't tell what you said.

00:52:57.000 Illegal or legal?

00:52:57.000 Currently, 59 say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 39 say it should be illegal in all or most cases.

00:53:05.000 So I think there is a middle ground in our country.

00:53:07.000 I think people already generally agree that less than 20 weeks, that's when most abortions do occur.

00:53:12.000 They're cool with that, but late trimester, I feel like most people are on the same page about that, except the people on the fringe.

00:53:17.000 And I think the, the problem with this issue is that the fringes are the most, um, voluptuous or voicetuous, uh, about this issue, right?

00:53:24.000 The extremes are the ones who care.

00:53:25.000 The evangelicals and the religious people who say it starts at conception.

00:53:28.000 And then, you know, crazy abortionists who are, who don't care if it's until the moment of you giving birth.

00:53:33.000 So that's how, where the conversation gets centered around, even though those are the most fringe cases.

00:53:38.000 And that's the problem and why I think some people don't think there is a middle ground.

00:53:41.000 I think most people in the country, again, 59 are cool and So I would agree that in terms of- I want to mention this, I really gotta respond to this.

00:53:49.000 I gotta stop you because I'll challenge your stats. 0.99

00:53:53.000 Gallup has, from 2021, 48% believe abortion should be legal under only certain circumstances, 32% say legal under any circumstances, and 19% say illegal in all circumstances, which means the majority of Americans support restriction abortion.

00:54:10.000 I'm looking at Pew Public Opinion.

00:54:12.000 Yeah.

00:54:12.000 So that shows... And I've also got Gallup.

00:54:15.000 Gallup says it's 50-50.

00:54:16.000 It depends on the statistics that you're looking at.

00:54:18.000 Yeah.

00:54:19.000 But I really want to say this.

00:54:20.000 So it may absolutely be the case that there are a large number of Americans who say that there's a middle ground here, but 95% of biologists, according to a five-year study and survey of biologists, say that life begins at fertilization regardless of their position on abortion.

00:54:34.000 So, the truth is, life begins at fertilization, that's what the science says, and I believe that we need to base our policy around the best information we have on what human life is, and endowing every living person with said rights, not necessarily what the polls say might be politically popular.

00:54:47.000 And I want to, real quick, I do want to point out, Elad's stats, I checked them, yup, Pew says exactly what he says they show.

00:54:54.000 I'm kosher.

00:54:54.000 But I will challenge them by saying, when provided with a more nuanced distinction, we can see from Gallup three categories as opposed to just two.

00:55:05.000 When you're giving a binary choice on legal or not, some people might begrudgingly say, well, I guess then we should just have it be legal.

00:55:12.000 When given the option for limited circumstance, no circumstance, or any circumstance, the plurality want restrictions in some capacity.

00:55:19.000 As drugs become more common and ubiquitous, the abortion pill is becoming more common and ubiquitous, you will not have to go to a doctor to receive it in the future.

00:55:27.000 So if women do choose to take the abortion pill and terminate their pregnancy, what do you think our government's response should be?

00:55:33.000 If there is no doctor who prescribed the pill. 0.99

00:55:35.000 That's kind of total bullshit. 0.99

00:55:36.000 a fake doctor who's just selling pills, right? 1.00

00:55:38.000 So they acquired the abortion pill and they chose to terminate their pregnancy.

00:55:42.000 How should we penalize that woman? 1.00

00:55:43.000 I think becomes the most politically toxic thing you could do and that's where it has

00:55:49.000 to end up.

00:55:50.000 We don't want to penalize the women, but I feel like at the end of the day, if they're 1.00

00:55:53.000 the one who ends up making the choice, then that's where we end up. 1.00

00:55:56.000 That's kind of total bullshit. 0.99

00:55:57.000 Which part? 1.00

00:55:58.000 So penalizing women for having a child?

00:55:59.000 Wait, so if a woman chooses to take the abortion pill that she got illegally, then what should the, if abortion's illegal, what should the penalty be?

00:56:05.000 You want to jail women for terminating their infertility? 1.00

00:56:07.000 I don't want to make abortion illegal.

00:56:09.000 You don't want to make abortion illegal, but if you do, if it is illegal, you think that women should be jailed?

00:56:14.000 I'm going down the steps.

00:56:14.000 No, I'm going down the only steps that make sense.

00:56:16.000 So if we make abortion illegal and somebody chooses to get an abortion, these are just, you know, if we make a law that we have to prosecute people.

00:56:23.000 Should someone be, you know, imprisoned for attempted suicide?

00:56:27.000 I don't think abortion should be illegal.

00:56:29.000 No, I don't think you should be said to, Jolie.

00:56:32.000 I'm taking issue with your rationalization, which doesn't make any sense.

00:56:35.000 I think you're, so I'd like to respond to this, because you're looking at a very specific circumstances.

00:56:39.000 You're creating a hypothetical scenario where all abortions are obtained by women getting these pills.

00:56:43.000 I'm talking about these cases.

00:56:44.000 Sir, so even if that does become the case, there's still going to be ways to police other forms of abortion.

00:56:49.000 I agree with you that some things are going to slip through the cracks.

00:56:52.000 That doesn't necessarily mean you're going to go prosecute women, and it doesn't mean we can't prevent abortion in other scenarios.

00:56:57.000 So how do you deal with the case?

00:56:59.000 So a woman, she's three months pregnant, she gets an abortion pill from India, what do we do? 0.97

00:57:04.000 Okay, first of all, there aren't abortion pills that will terminate your three-month-old.

00:57:10.000 The abortion pills that exist are pretty early term.

00:57:13.000 Okay, so let's say early term like by the time you're three months like okay, there's a baby in your first trimester 14 weeks so a woman acquires a pill from India that induces, you know an abortion to happen within 14 weeks and it's illegal in whatever state she does it to and I'm trying to get to the base of it. 0.80

00:57:30.000 How do we penalize it when there's no doctor involved?

00:57:31.000 But I don't think this is getting to the base of it because we're talking about a restriction that applies to abortions across the state of Oklahoma at all points in conception with a few potential exceptions, though I want to look into what they're saying with respect to those exceptions.

00:57:44.000 You're talking about a specific scenario of abortion pills that would be particularly difficult to prove and prosecute.

00:57:48.000 So I think what needs to happen is you have to ensure that those pills are not allowed in the United States of America and anyone who sells them is prosecuted.

00:57:55.000 you're not listening to me what you're saying is because this would be difficult to

00:57:59.000 prevent it's not something that we should attempt to prevent

00:58:01.000 how should we penalize it?

00:58:03.000 well yeah, I mean the dealer I think Seamus makes a really good

00:58:07.000 finish their point before you just start talking over each other

00:58:09.000 I think Seamus makes a really good point which is the dealer of the abortion pills

00:58:13.000 should be the one who's held liable good luck trying to go to India and penalize

00:58:17.000 and then in those cases you can't penalize anybody Well, I think that's the future of abortion then in our country It's people illegally acquiring abortion pills when they can't receive them from doctors in and it's 10 weeks I think you can get them up to 10 weeks I think the future of abortion pills gonna get it even further but I think to say that there are instances that our laws can't account for is not an argument for why we shouldn't have these laws in the first place the argument is

00:58:39.000 If you think it should be illegal because it terminates a human life, the issue is that you can't track early human life.

00:58:47.000 So, if you were to view abortion as no different than a murder, the issue is that someone who is born and has a life is tracked in some way, and when they go missing, the murder typically, not always, but will be noticed in some way.

00:59:01.000 Someone went missing.

00:59:02.000 A woman who gets pregnant doesn't tell anybody, then aborts the baby. 0.99

00:59:06.000 There's no evidence of the existence of the loss of human life.

00:59:10.000 If you were to view it in the exact same way that it was a murder, then the law should be treating it identically as it was a murder.

00:59:16.000 That is to say, it doesn't matter how the woman commit the act. 1.00

00:59:19.000 You can drive from Illinois to, you know, to Indiana and illegally acquire a gun and used to commit a murder.

00:59:24.000 Yeah, it's still illegal.

00:59:25.000 So we will penalize the woman, is what I'm trying to get to. 1.00

00:59:28.000 Because if you do think abortion is murder, and then the woman on her own volition acquires and then aborts, then she murdered the child. 0.71

00:59:35.000 Not necessarily, because intent has a lot to do with this.

00:59:37.000 So if a person doesn't understand what they're doing, they don't recognize that they're killing a human person because they've been propagandized.

00:59:43.000 No, I think there's a good point to be made there, because women are told that this isn't murder. 1.00

00:59:47.000 So I think there are people who fight in wars.

00:59:49.000 For insanity, please.

00:59:50.000 No, I don't think so.

00:59:51.000 That's the basis of an insanity plea.

00:59:53.000 That you didn't know right from wrong.

00:59:55.000 You can't plead insanity because you're literally insane.

00:59:57.000 You plead that you don't know the difference between right and wrong.

00:59:59.000 So if you go to court and they say, this has happened, a woman killed her kids because she said that once they become 12, original sin will send them to hell.

01:00:08.000 That's insane.

01:00:09.000 Yes!

01:00:09.000 Yes, exactly.

01:00:10.000 And so she bludgeoned her kids to death. 1.00

01:00:12.000 And then, uh, the court said, why did you do it?

01:00:14.000 And she said, she called the police after she did it.

01:00:17.000 And she was like, I need help cleaning this up. 0.98

01:00:19.000 My kid, I killed them. 0.68

01:00:20.000 They said, why? 0.99

01:00:21.000 And she goes to make sure they went to heaven. 0.99

01:00:23.000 So she was deemed insane.

01:00:25.000 Yeah.

01:00:25.000 See that, that would be insanity.

01:00:27.000 So the issue is if you want to penalize abortion, as though it were murder, you would have to treat the woman as a murderer.

01:00:34.000 Yes.

01:00:35.000 Well, so basically murder is handled by the states and I would argue that as a matter of legislation it makes sense to be merciful to these women because oftentimes they literally do not know what they're doing. 1.00

01:00:43.000 They're told an abortion is a procedure just like any other where they're flushing some cells out of their body and not a human life.

01:00:48.000 So I would absolutely prosecute the doctors because they know exactly what they're doing.

01:00:51.000 I think the vast majority of women in these circumstances have no idea. 0.99

01:00:55.000 I totally and 100% disagree with you.

01:00:58.000 I think that women know what abortion is. 1.00

01:01:00.000 They know what pregnancy is. 1.00

01:01:02.000 And when you're pregnant you can tell that you're pregnant. 0.74

01:01:06.000 A lot of things change about your body very quickly and you know that you're pregnant.

01:01:10.000 You know that you're carrying a human life.

01:01:11.000 It's apparent.

01:01:12.000 Pun intended.

01:01:14.000 What?

01:01:15.000 Pun intended.

01:01:15.000 It's apparent.

01:01:17.000 But you know that you're pregnant. 0.54

01:01:18.000 You know what that entails.

01:01:21.000 No one doesn't know what they're doing or thinks it really is a clump of cells except

01:01:25.000 perhaps girls under 16.

01:01:28.000 I do not think that women should be prosecuted for having abortions any more than I think

01:01:33.000 people who are suicidal should be prosecuted for attempted murder.

01:01:36.000 It just doesn't make any sense.

01:01:39.000 These things are going to happen.

01:01:41.000 Women have been aborting their babies since long before birth control pills or abortion 1.00

01:01:47.000 pills or surgical procedures or anything like that, and there have certainly been lots of

01:01:53.000 circumstances in countries in which women are prosecuted for having abortions.

01:01:58.000 Bye.

01:01:59.000 I was obsessed with Norwegian literature for a while, and there was this book, Growth of the Soil, I believe.

01:02:04.000 Was it Growth of the Soil?

01:02:05.000 Yeah, by Newt Hampson.

01:02:07.000 And there was a woman who was prosecuted for attempted abortion, and she ended up in prison with a whole bunch of other ladies who had attempted abortions, and they were all there raising their children in prison.

01:02:19.000 And that's the kind of thing that you would start to look at.

01:02:22.000 You would start to look at imprisoning children for having been born to mothers who have a

01:02:28.000 lot of kids and didn't want anymore, as it was in that book, was primarily the situation.

01:02:34.000 I think that what we need to do as a society is have more respect for parents, for parents'

01:02:41.000 choices.

01:02:42.000 We have to be supporting families more and not constantly trying to, you know, force

01:02:46.000 everyone to adhere to the government's dictates for your lifestyle.

01:02:51.000 I think that has a lot to do with it.

01:02:54.000 There is a chance that the abortion pill doesn't actually work.

01:02:57.000 They say the abortion is a result in an abortion one to two weeks, anywhere from 54% to 92%

01:03:03.000 of pregnancies.

01:03:05.000 And it also says if the abortion doesn't take, it could result in birth defects, birth defects

01:03:10.000 if pregnancy doesn't end.

01:03:11.000 So I think I would not be surprised if they do ban abortion outright across the board

01:03:18.000 in the United States or just in many states.

01:03:20.000 You're going to see people fleeing states.

01:03:22.000 You're going to see people doing, you know, backroom abortions or whatever, pills or otherwise.

01:03:28.000 But I think what's more likely to happen first is geographic polarization.

01:03:33.000 So like what we're seeing with women in Texas fleeing to Oklahoma. 0.99

01:03:36.000 Now that Oklahoma bans it, you're going to see people in Texas fleeing to Colorado.

01:03:40.000 And then they're going to stay in Colorado.

01:03:41.000 And then you're going to see states become hyper polarized by, it's going to be by geography.

01:03:46.000 Then you're going to see a bunch of states that are pro abortion with no restriction

01:03:50.000 and many states that are anti abortion with no exceptions or limited rare exceptions like

01:03:55.000 And then it's going to come down to the hyperpolarization of this country, control of our institutions,

01:04:02.000 and you are going to have a strong moral issue for people on the right who are like, you

01:04:06.000 are literally murdering babies. 0.51

01:04:08.000 Because we saw it in Virginia when that woman, what was her name, Tran, Nancy, what was her 0.94

01:04:12.000 name, that politician, she wanted restrictionless abortion and she was asked by a judge, would 1.00

01:04:18.000 this mean that a woman who is literally about to give birth, she's dilating, you could abort

01:04:22.000 the baby, and she goes, there would be no restriction.

01:04:26.000 Then you had Northam say, well, we would take the baby, it would be delivered, it would

01:04:29.000 be made comfortable, and then the woman would have a conversation with her doctor about 0.97

01:04:33.000 what to do next.

01:04:34.000 As if to imply they would kill the baby after it was already born.

01:04:37.000 He came out later and he was like, I meant in the case of severe defect.

01:04:40.000 I'm like, the baby's alive!

01:04:43.000 So where does that lead to if people are going to flee these states?

01:04:48.000 Let me start from here.

01:04:50.000 If Roe v. Wade Well, it is overturned, as many believe it will, especially on the left.

01:04:57.000 Many have told me Republicans will not push for a federal ban on abortion because they think it's a states' rights issue.

01:05:02.000 Okay.

01:05:03.000 Then you get all the blue states saying, no restriction on abortion, like they're doing already, 15 states that are seemingly to that degree.

01:05:10.000 And then you have the red states all saying, ban on abortion with limited or no exceptions.

01:05:15.000 You are going to have hyperpolarization in this country.

01:05:18.000 And that is planting the seeds for interstate conflict.

01:05:21.000 We have that in a lot of areas, though, also.

01:05:24.000 Yeah, well, I find it fascinating.

01:05:26.000 I agree with you, and I was just going to say that we're going to see increased polarization just on the basis of geography.

01:05:30.000 Left-wing people are going to leave these red states, and then the blue states are going to become bluer, the red states are going to become redder, because only people who are comfortable with those abortion laws will move there, etc.

01:05:39.000 You were making a point earlier just about this being politically pragmatic and what could happen.

01:05:43.000 Is this going to result in Joe Biden getting a second term?

01:05:45.000 I don't think so, but it's also an interesting question because, as we were discussing earlier, there is a debate here over which side cares more about this issue.

01:05:53.000 We were pulling up different polls that had a bit of nuance to the question of abortion, asking, do you think it should always be illegal, legal in some circumstances?

01:06:02.000 Part of the issue with these is they usually end up with some kind of framing that could be considered biased I know that Gallup poll just straight-up asked people Do you identify as pro-life or pro-choice and it's a pretty pretty neat 50-50 split across the nation It's like 49% pro-choice 47% pro-life and then 5% with no opinion I find it difficult because too though because in that framing too I feel like not all pro-lifers are from conception errs and I think that's probably true.

01:06:27.000 And a lot of people consider Plan B abortions and it gets really...

01:06:31.000 And you're right, there's just so many gray zones.

01:06:33.000 There is something to be said about political principles though and political strategy.

01:06:37.000 Because you know, I'm just saying it's a bad strategy.

01:06:40.000 That doesn't mean it's right or wrong.

01:06:42.000 So I think we have a lot of those examples in our country.

01:06:44.000 Who knows?

01:06:44.000 This could be, you know, although a bad strategy, you're being very principled.

01:06:48.000 I think it also kinda relates to how Trump's saying the election was stolen.

01:06:52.000 And pragmatically, strategy-wise, I don't think it's a great strategy, but he's staying true to his principles, and the people who back him up on those principles are getting rewarded with his endorsements, so...

01:07:02.000 Yeah, well, and I think part of what sort of adds to my position, and we'll see what ends up happening, but part of what I think bolsters my position is the fact that, as Tim said, pro-lifers see this as a child being killed, pro-choices just see this more as an abstract struggle between religious fanatics and the secularists who want to preserve people's rights.

01:07:23.000 The question is, do you care more about that kind of abstract battle than you do the fact that food is more expensive, you're having a harder time feeding your family, gas is as expensive as it's ever been, there's turmoil on the foreign stage that we probably wouldn't see with a president who was a little stronger.

01:07:39.000 It's actually a toss-up, and you're probably going to care more about the things that affect your life in a more direct sense.

01:07:44.000 But if you're going to ask people to balance those questions against Another human life, they're probably going to choose to save the person or believe in saving the person, but in this instance the pro-lifers don't even have to make that choice because the people who they would be voting for not only want to end abortion, but would ideally be able to get this country stuffed together and get gas prices down and return food costs to something more normal.

01:08:06.000 In regard to, like, the Civil War stuff, though, I think it's actually... I'm extremely optimistic because I think it's a good thing that one of the top issues that we care about and have to deal with in our country is abortion instead of hunger or crazy inflation or actual... I mean, it's... I hate using the word privilege, but it's a relatively privileged position to have this, the top issue you care about.

01:08:25.000 And to make a joke from earlier, maybe we might need to not blame those Russians for the war crimes in Ukraine because they were propagandized so heavily.

01:08:32.000 Well, no, but no.

01:08:35.000 There's an interesting question.

01:08:36.000 I reject the premise, by the way.

01:08:38.000 So, obviously, but the wars that we're involved in now, I know people who fought in those wars.

01:08:43.000 They were propagandized as young men to believe that going to the Middle East and quote-unquote fighting for our freedom was the right thing to do.

01:08:48.000 They ended up doing things over there that they very much regret, but I would not charge them with murder.

01:08:52.000 Would you?

01:08:54.000 Would you?

01:08:54.000 Because you scoff at this idea that being propagandized means that you shouldn't be held accountable on some level.

01:08:59.000 I'm trying to liberate the Iraqi people and then the war crimes also committed by certain soldiers on the ground

01:09:03.000 So if you're on the ground and massacring people, even if you are a US soldier

01:09:07.000 You should be penalized because that's not what our army teaches you I would and we do by the way and also the thing

01:09:13.000 is But that's the Iraq war

01:09:15.000 The Iraq war, we have the benefit of it ending poorly, and that's why we get to look back at it so poorly. 0.87

01:09:20.000 But, you know, if we were able to set up... The problem with Iraq is that we weren't able to set up a democracy thereafter. 0.70

01:09:26.000 So there's a lot to... But I didn't ask about war crimes.

01:09:29.000 I didn't ask about things that our nation would consider war crimes and that our country is against in terms of its policy.

01:09:35.000 I'm talking about the United States being involved in illegitimate wars where people died.

01:09:39.000 I would say they're legitimate.

01:09:40.000 I wouldn't call them illegitimate.

01:09:41.000 You wouldn't call them illegitimate even though Congress didn't declare them?

01:09:43.000 Well, the Congress hasn't declared a war since World War II.

01:09:46.000 Am I calling every war since World War II illegitimate?

01:09:49.000 Well, why not?

01:09:49.000 No.

01:09:49.000 They didn't go through the proper legal process.

01:09:51.000 Well, we don't do a lot of things by the Constitution.

01:09:54.000 The Congress is the first thing that's mentioned in our Constitution.

01:09:57.000 But, you know, they barely have actual power.

01:09:59.000 And as much as I'd like to be a constitutionalist, in practice, de facto, we have a commander-in-chief and he's the person who makes the foreign policy.

01:10:06.000 And in our current world, that's the way it needs to be.

01:10:09.000 We can't have our president be strapped by Congress.

01:10:12.000 Congress can't agree on... Then we might not have gotten involved in two 20-year-long wars that resulted in countless suffering and thousands of lives ended.

01:10:19.000 The Senate and Congress is extremely indecisive and they would get nothing done.

01:10:22.000 We need a leader to be able to act freely and quickly on the world stage, in my opinion.

01:10:27.000 I think also, I'm very hawkish, I think most of these wars are justified.

01:10:31.000 I don't want to get involved with Ukraine because I want to be focused on the Chinese though, so... 1.00

01:10:35.000 That's why I would justify a lot of these wars.

01:10:37.000 Not the war crimes, though.

01:10:39.000 There is some leniency in times of war, and I understand things get crazy, but war crimes is a completely different thing.

01:10:45.000 And we do prosecute Americans who commit war crimes.

01:10:47.000 Yeah, and I never said we didn't, and I never said that we shouldn't.

01:10:49.000 If someone commits a war crime, they should absolutely be prosecuted, and I think we just plain don't see eye-to-eye on the powers of the presidency, the executive branch, and whether we should have been involved in any of these disasters. 0.73

01:10:57.000 It feels like people do overlook the war- because I was joking originally about the Russians.

01:11:02.000 I do feel like Ukraine's getting a little bit more extra scrutiny on their obvious military propaganda than Russia does. 0.96

01:11:08.000 We like to talk about how corrupt Ukraine is, which, given, it is corrupt, but the most corrupt shithole on planet Earth is actually Russia. 0.88

01:11:14.000 So, do you know what I'm talking about there with, uh, giving a little bit more slack to Russia than Ukraine?

01:11:21.000 I'm not as sure on that, but I would agree with you that when you're looking at that situation, I mean, I don't have a dog in that fight, frankly.

01:11:28.000 Well, that's part of why I don't want to see the United States government get involved at all.

01:11:31.000 Even if there's a country that I would say is more likely to be in the right, I wouldn't say that the United States should go defend them or fight for them.

01:11:36.000 Oh, so you think even if a country is in the right, we shouldn't assist and defend them?

01:11:40.000 It depends on whether it's a struggle.

01:11:42.000 There are certain instances where it might be necessary for us to be involved.

01:11:46.000 Do you think Zelensky is heroic for defending his homeland and supposedly choosing not to leave and continuing to fight instead of surrendering?

01:11:52.000 I think, yeah, yeah.

01:11:53.000 I would think that that's probably a good thing for a foreign leader to do, to stay in their country and fight if someone's invading. 0.94

01:11:57.000 Do you think we should be sending weapons to Ukraine?

01:12:00.000 No, I don't think the United States government should be involved at all, to be honest.

01:12:03.000 Okay, but then otherwise it literally just falls to Russia.

01:12:06.000 Should we not let our allies abroad know that we have their back in any capacity?

01:12:10.000 Well, Ukraine isn't a part of NATO, and that's part of why they're having this entire conflict.

01:12:14.000 I don't think it's the United States' responsibility to ensure that Ukraine doesn't fall to Russia. 0.92

01:12:19.000 Sure.

01:12:20.000 Are you worried that any other countries will get a hint and a wink and a nod from the U.S.

01:12:24.000 withdrawing from the global world stage as much?

01:12:28.000 Are you scared this might trigger other conflicts is what I'm getting at.

01:12:30.000 Well, what I think is much more of a serious risk is the fact that we have spent the last 20 years involved in foreign conflicts in the Middle East and they all ended disastrously and what we showed other countries is that we're not serious about fighting the wars that we do want to fight in the long term because we don't get involved.

01:12:43.000 I think overall the United States Even if you want to have this more hawkish approach and say, we want to be taken more seriously on the foreign stage, we want to show our enemies that we're not weak.

01:12:54.000 I think, A, to get the American people on board with that, after you have just completely failed in your foreign policy in basically every major respect, it is going to be impossible, even if you think that we should or it would make us look good on the foreign stage.

01:13:06.000 I mean, that trust has just been completely lost.

01:13:08.000 Could I ask you this?

01:13:09.000 Yeah, sure.

01:13:10.000 I want to ask you this one last thing.

01:13:11.000 This is what, like, foreign policy people say.

01:13:13.000 That if we didn't stand at all with Ukraine, that China would get, like, a wink and a nod that we're not willing to defend Taiwan.

01:13:18.000 I wanted to ask you, what do you think about that argument?

01:13:21.000 And also, should we defend or supply Taiwan with weapons?

01:13:24.000 Because that's the next step.

01:13:25.000 That's the next Ukraine. 0.99

01:13:26.000 That's the next conflict.

01:13:26.000 I think that's a really good question.

01:13:28.000 So part of the reason Ukraine has been such a disaster, in my estimation, is that our White House and Joe Biden, our intelligence agencies, the war machine, was basically saying they believed that Russia was going to invade, and then there were no precautions taken.

01:13:45.000 So I think if we had established a no-fly zone prior to them invading, that could have deterred them from invading.

01:13:50.000 That's even more hawkish than me!

01:13:51.000 Well, I'm not necessarily saying that we should do that, but I am saying...

01:13:55.000 I don't think so, because I think Russia invades anyway, and then if you knock down, if NATO calls a no-fly zone, and then Russia invades, and then they shoot down a jet that's still World War III.

01:14:05.000 Yeah, no, it absolutely could be.

01:14:07.000 If we're talking about Taiwan specifically, though, I'd have to look at the situation.

01:14:11.000 I don't have a set position there.

01:14:12.000 I do understand your concerns that if they get Taiwan, that's a big problem for us. 0.92

01:14:16.000 I looked up the best data I could possibly find on this issue.

01:14:20.000 Abortion doesn't weigh particularly heavily for either party.

01:14:23.000 But there's a plus five Republican percentage.

01:14:26.000 So when it comes to the issue of abortion, Republicans at 28% view it as a top issue, Democrats at 23 and Independents at 25.

01:14:34.000 So Republicans do have the plus five.

01:14:35.000 That is to say, when all of these changes are happening with abortion, it doesn't seem like it will be the biggest motivating factor, but it will be more likely to motivate Republicans than it would Democrats.

01:14:44.000 It's interesting that climate change is up top there.

01:14:46.000 Yeah.

01:14:47.000 Did you see?

01:14:47.000 Well, for Republicans, it's 8%.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, Republicans don't care. 1.00

01:14:50.000 But it's interesting because, did you see there was some data that came out from OKCupid and Tinder that if you don't care about climate change, it's a deal breaker.

01:14:58.000 The ladies are not going to go out with you. 1.00

01:15:01.000 As a matter of fact, they came up with this term petromasculinity.

01:15:04.000 Oh, I love it! 0.87

01:15:05.000 To describe the combination of the man who is, you know, of course racist, but Is anti-climate, is racist, is nationalist, and is misogynist.

01:15:17.000 So if you don't think that climate change is a super big issue, then you're apparently petro-masculine and this is a problem.

01:15:25.000 I care about climate change as much as Barack Obama does.

01:15:28.000 I'm gonna buy my beachfront property and I'm gonna relax.

01:15:31.000 Yeah, I liked it because the other thing too is the data didn't say that the person that you're interested in had to Be interested in taking any action on climate change or doing anything.

01:15:44.000 It was just if you care about it, like if you really feel deeply about it and make sure you bring your recycled bag to the market when you buy your foie gras or whatever.

01:15:53.000 Does it say which direction you have to care deeply in?

01:15:55.000 Because what if I care deeply about causing more climate change?

01:15:57.000 I like this.

01:15:59.000 My favorite part, too, is that nobody ever remembers that fossil fuel actually resulted in the greatest decrease in global poverty the world has ever seen.

01:16:09.000 And free trade.

01:16:09.000 Shout out to that.

01:16:12.000 Love that.

01:16:13.000 One last thing because I just had it on my mind.

01:16:15.000 I don't think it's enough to just be anti-communist domestically and anti-Islamist domestically.

01:16:21.000 I do think that if we believe in these values, then we should try to Export them and make sure that people aren't attacking those values worldwide.

01:16:29.000 And that's why I stand so strongly with Taiwan.

01:16:32.000 It's not enough to be anti-communist back home.

01:16:33.000 You need to be anti-communist internationally.

01:16:35.000 That's why I stand with South Korea, Japan.

01:16:37.000 That's why we need to work closer with Australia and India.

01:16:40.000 We really need to box the Chinese in. 1.00

01:16:41.000 They are the next geopolitical threat.

01:16:44.000 We do not want to live in a multi-polar world where China gets to call shots on an even playing field as us. 0.99

01:16:50.000 They view every part of our system as negative and bad.

01:16:53.000 We'd want less of that Chinese communist influence here.

01:16:56.000 See, I wish people would be honest about that.

01:16:58.000 Because I often tell people, if you like the way... I said this about Hillary Clinton, I'm like, if you like the status quo, you know, if you like that we get our shirts made in Indonesia, if you like that it's a nickel an hour to make your shoes, you gotta vote for Hillary Clinton.

01:17:14.000 If you have a problem with that, and war, and the international policies that exploit foreign countries, you'll want a Donald Trump, because he's all about America first and what's manufacturing here, which will make things cost more money in the long run, but typically everyone's standard of living will go up quite a bit.

01:17:27.000 I don't think it's exploiting.

01:17:28.000 I think it's helping these other countries, and it's so interesting when we talk about these prices going up and how much people care.

01:17:34.000 Oh, I mean, hey, we'll make it domestically, and then shirts will be a little bit more expensive.

01:17:37.000 The Americans won't care. 0.93

01:17:38.000 This is coming from the same people who constantly say, oh, gas is up two more dollars?

01:17:42.000 Joe Biden's definitely gonna lose the election because of this.

01:17:45.000 So I feel like some people are having it both ways when they're talking about that, though.

01:17:47.000 Do we care about higher prices?

01:17:50.000 You're making a mistake.

01:17:51.000 Donald Trump was in favor of energy independence in the United States, which was lowering gas prices.

01:17:55.000 Sure.

01:17:55.000 So you can complain about Joe Biden's failed policy, energy policies.

01:17:59.000 The United States, the reason, you know why we give $12 million to Pakistani gender studies?

01:18:03.000 To maintain the strength of the petrodollar, we want to give people money and say, use it, use it, it's valuable.

01:18:09.000 That way they say, okay, I'll get something for this.

01:18:12.000 Donald Trump was like, secure our borders, better trade deals, manufacturing back home.

01:18:17.000 That would have made many things cheaper, would have made some things more expensive.

01:18:20.000 All in all, the quality of life for everybody was going up.

01:18:23.000 We were seeing businesses enacting 32-hour work weeks.

01:18:26.000 We were seeing paid parental leave.

01:18:28.000 These things were happening organically because the economy was booming, as Jim Cramer said, the best numbers of our lives.

01:18:34.000 But some people, they like the idea of, for whatever reason, Actually, I'll put it this way.

01:18:39.000 I think if you actually know what the Democrats have been doing for 30 years, along with the neocons, don't get me wrong, things have changed in the past five years with Republicans.

01:18:45.000 Not too much, but a little bit.

01:18:47.000 They were exporting American wealth.

01:18:50.000 They were extracting from the system, as Dillard and Rattigan called it, if he was referring to the same thing.

01:18:55.000 And it was resulting in American lives being worse off for it, people getting angry, and there was a backlash.

01:19:00.000 So if you want to export American neoliberalism and neoconservative values, then you want to do everything you're saying, I suppose.

01:19:10.000 If neoliberal is free trade and neocon is, you know, values worldwide and not let our allies get stumped, then Yeah, I'm kind of down with it.

01:19:21.000 Also, one thing too, it's on free trade.

01:19:21.000 Neoconservatism is ensuring that we change other countries' political structure based on what we in the United States have determined would be advantageous to us.

01:19:30.000 So when we go to the Middle East and say, you know what, let's turn Afghanistan into a democracy, even though it's a completely unpragmatic goal that we could never achieve, and then we waste 20 years over there, trillions of dollars, thousands of human lives, that's what neoconservatism is.

01:19:43.000 That's what its record has been.

01:19:44.000 So you can talk about defending our allies, All we have done is gotten people killed and made the situation worse over there than it needed to be.

01:19:53.000 This is a really good point though.

01:19:55.000 People don't want to live in a multipolar world where China is calling the shots or at least putting pressure.

01:19:59.000 An equal say as us.

01:20:01.000 Yeah, and people don't want that.

01:20:03.000 But the challenge, I suppose, is many people don't want to see Americans being shipped off to foreign countries in what is typically viewed as conquest, invading Iraq and Afghanistan for vague or incorrect reasons for the sake of expanding our power in these regions.

01:20:17.000 I think we need to continue to support our allies, both militarily and economically, because in the zero-sum game of foreign policy, if it isn't us helping out our allies, it's them going to our enemies.

01:20:28.000 What does that mean?

01:20:29.000 It means that, hey, if we choose not to be friendly to the Philippines, and when China, you know, acts aggressively in the South China Sea and navigates through their waters with impunity, that we need to defend the Philippines and let them know that we have their back.

01:20:43.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:20:43.000 Okay, we get that.

01:20:44.000 I'm talking about, like, you know, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and firing missiles into Syria. 0.73

01:20:49.000 So, I mean, hey, right now, let's do it into a modern-day issue.

01:20:53.000 Right now, if Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons, are we going to do anything about it? 0.92

01:20:57.000 Why?

01:20:58.000 If they do, should we do anything about it?

01:21:00.000 Why?

01:21:01.000 Why should we do something about it?

01:21:02.000 Yeah, why should we?

01:21:03.000 Because I don't think Iran, an autocratic Islamist regime who's threatened to wipe multiple of our allies off the map, should have nuclear weapons. 0.62

01:21:10.000 What do we do about it?

01:21:12.000 Well, so far it's been the JCPOA, the Iran deal, that we've been like one foot in and one foot out of.

01:21:18.000 And then it's also through our proxy allies... Actually, it was Stuxnet.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, and now we have... We blew up their centrifuges.

01:21:23.000 And now we have our proxy allies too, like Israel, who are constantly, you know, harming Iran one way or another, trying to prevent the development of their nuclear bomb.

01:21:31.000 To keep it to the modern issues, I suppose you're arguing in support of the corruption in Ukraine and the missile strikes on Syria.

01:21:41.000 So it's not... I hate the corruption in Ukraine, but I think Russia is the most country on planet Earth.

01:21:47.000 Moreover, Vladimir Putin is a former KGB actual Soviet communist, so we shouldn't have a lot of faith in this guy.

01:21:54.000 And obviously, Zelensky isn't a perfect figure, but I'll tell you who's a lot further from perfect.

01:21:58.000 It's Vladimir Putin who actually poisons his political opposition and has committed war crimes in the past, and now what it looks like is continuing to do so in Ukraine.

01:22:06.000 So, like, Syria, right?

01:22:08.000 The U.S.

01:22:08.000 has been... We kind of pulled out of there, unfortunately.

01:22:11.000 We're back, you know.

01:22:12.000 Thank you, Joe Biden.

01:22:13.000 As I understand, like, Russia rules the airspace, and that's part of the reason why Israel hasn't come as hard out against Russia as they could have.

01:22:21.000 I mean, how did these jihadis and these rebels end up with NATO-backed weapons?

01:22:26.000 In Afghanistan?

01:22:27.000 In Syria.

01:22:28.000 In Syria?

01:22:29.000 We supplied some of the rebel groups originally.

01:22:32.000 We wanted to get rid of Bashar al-Assad.

01:22:35.000 because we wanted to build a gas pipeline.

01:22:37.000 We wanted to get rid of Bashar al-Assad.

01:22:38.000 Because we wanted to build a gas pipeline.

01:22:40.000 There are a few reasons we wanted to get rid of Bashar al-Assad, but...

01:22:41.000 Well, the main reason is that in 2009, the CIA wanted to invade

01:22:45.000 because we were trying to build a pipeline from Qatar, through Syria and Turkey, into Europe

01:22:49.000 to offset the Gazprom gas monopoly, which goes...

01:22:51.000 which goes through Ukraine.

01:22:52.000 Yeah.

01:22:53.000 Ukraine.

01:22:54.000 Subsequently, now we're involved in a conflict in that country because, well, surprise, surprise,

01:22:58.000 Joe Biden, once he gets put in charge, his son happens to get a job, become a director

01:23:02.000 for a gas company in Ukraine.

01:23:05.000 I think we want regime change.

01:23:06.000 All of this is tied together.

01:23:07.000 We wanted to change regime change in Syria because they were a Russian ally and everything

01:23:11.000 else comes after that.

01:23:12.000 That's the core issue there.

01:23:13.000 But do you know why we wanted regime change because they're Russian allies?

01:23:17.000 Because when we said we want to build a gas pipeline to offset the Russian gas monopoly with Gazprom, Bashar al-Assad told the United States, allowing you to do that would upset our ally Russia.

01:23:28.000 This was reported in the Guardian back in like 2012.

01:23:30.000 The U.S.

01:23:30.000 wanted to invade.

01:23:31.000 Instead, a civil war breaks out, the rebels are given NATO-backed weapons, and a truck from Detroit with some guy's phone number on it, which created a huge crisis for this guy's poor company, and it was destabilizing the entire region, with the West basically being like, Europe deserves cheap gas.

01:23:46.000 Now, if you like the idea of Europe having cheaper gas because Russia is gripping them by the balls, Then just be honest about it that the U.S.

01:23:54.000 is willing to destroy entire regions and create chaos in Ukraine and Syria for the sake of their allies.

01:24:01.000 If you like your wealth, just admit it.

01:24:03.000 I think it's much bigger than just gas going through Syria.

01:24:06.000 I think Syria has become a proxy essentially for Iran, and that's why we're fighting there. 0.96

01:24:11.000 Multiple countries are fighting on multiple sides.

01:24:13.000 This is one of the most complicated conflicts in the Middle East.

01:24:17.000 They're Iranian proxies and we don't want Iranian proxies to win out in Syria next to our other allies and we don't want Iran to continue to spread their influence. 0.51

01:24:24.000 Same thing's going on in Yemen with the Houthi rebels attacking our other allies through the Saudis.

01:24:28.000 The Saudis are backing... And us having a blockade up that starved 84,000 children to death. 0.86

01:24:32.000 Sure, again, we haven't acted properly in all these cases and there have been consequences to our actions, but I feel like if we're overlooking constantly the misdeeds of our enemies, who are much greater and larger than ours, then we're really missing the point.

01:24:45.000 Have they starved 85,000 children to death?

01:24:47.000 Who?

01:24:48.000 Our enemies?

01:24:49.000 So, no, don't get me wrong, the Huthi rebels are terrible. 1.00

01:24:51.000 Our enemies have done worse, yeah. 0.99

01:24:53.000 And the Houthis, they're all, they're all Islamist terrorists. 1.00

01:24:56.000 So then we should get involved and have the United States-backed blockade that has literally starved tens of thousands of children to death stand, even after Joe Biden says we're not going to be involved in this conflict anymore, because some people in that region also did bad things.

01:25:09.000 It's a zero-sum game.

01:25:10.000 It either comes down to do we want them to be in our sphere of influence or the Iranians and Russians. 0.97

01:25:16.000 And if Iranians and Russians and Chinese continue to exert their influence and expand, this is just going to come to bite us back in the ass further down the line. 1.00

01:25:25.000 This all has to do with the unipolar world order that the United States currently has. 0.91

01:25:30.000 That's what conservatives probably should conserve.

01:25:32.000 And we need to do that by continuing to assist and support our allies in the zero-sum game of geopolitics.

01:25:38.000 If they're not with us, they're going to our enemies.

01:25:39.000 Well, I don't believe in child sacrifice, even in the name of supporting our allies.

01:25:42.000 Child sacrifice?

01:25:43.000 Come on.

01:25:45.000 What is tens of thousands of children dying?

01:25:47.000 Starving to death so that your geopolitical goals can occur.

01:25:49.000 The war is happening regardless, and we're supporting one side.

01:25:51.000 The conflict is happening.

01:25:52.000 Right now, if we didn't support Ukraine, the conflict would still be happening, and the Russians are still going to be massacring people. 0.98

01:25:57.000 So I'll tell you, the Russians have killed kids, and they've also killed a ton of civilians. 0.99

01:26:00.000 The United States is funding and backing the blockade that is starving the children.

01:26:04.000 That's my point.

01:26:04.000 If we weren't doing that, those children would not be starving to death.

01:26:07.000 I don't want to go in circles because we've said that several times.

01:26:09.000 My question is, you said the conflict would still be happening in Ukraine.

01:26:12.000 How come there was no conflict in Ukraine when Trump was president?

01:26:15.000 Oh, I mean, because Putin was scared of Trump, in my opinion.

01:26:18.000 Yeah.

01:26:19.000 Yeah, I think he, like, leaders did not, were not able to predict what Trump would do.

01:26:24.000 I think on the world stage, people do not respect Trump.

01:26:27.000 I mean, do not respect Biden at all.

01:26:29.000 As I understand, Joe Biden just had his phone called, ignored by Mohammed bin Salman, the current leader of Saudi Arabia.

01:26:34.000 Trump would not have allowed that to happen.

01:26:36.000 Trump, the first place that Trump visited was Saudi Arabia.

01:26:39.000 If they did anything like that, you know Trump is freaking out on Twitter or something, or anything, and he's holding them to account.

01:26:44.000 Saudi money is the most influential money in DC.

01:26:47.000 Trump would not let that stuff slide.

01:26:49.000 If Trump was in office right now, I think we'd have more of our allies on a stranglehold.

01:26:53.000 But I'm also conflicted because the Saudis have now become political.

01:26:56.000 The Saudis chose not to pump oil to screw Biden over.

01:26:58.000 I don't want to jump around too much.

01:27:00.000 Think about that.

01:27:01.000 Under Donald Trump, we didn't have the conflict in Ukraine.

01:27:05.000 Putin was scared of him.

01:27:06.000 I agree with that.

01:27:07.000 I also think Donald Trump was actually, he was crushing ISIS.

01:27:11.000 He didn't care about Syria.

01:27:13.000 He was like, get rid of ISIS, whatever.

01:27:15.000 But, you know, the democratic establishment, the neocons and the neolibs were like, let ISIS destabilize Assad's regime.

01:27:22.000 And then, you know, we can come and pick up the pieces or leave them in rubble as we build.

01:27:26.000 Under Trump, our border was more secure, our economy was way better, and there was less war.

01:27:30.000 Would you consider Trump a neocon?

01:27:33.000 No.

01:27:34.000 It's interesting because his chief of staff, I forgot exactly who it was, but he's been called the neocon.

01:27:38.000 He had John Bolton who was the neocon.

01:27:40.000 He was surrounded by a bunch of really awful people.

01:27:41.000 Well, he wasn't surrounded by, he appointed.

01:27:43.000 Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.

01:27:44.000 And then he also was a big proponent of NATO.

01:27:47.000 Again, he sounded anti-NATO, but what he was really saying was everybody should increase their budget to like the percent of GDP that they should have.

01:27:53.000 They should be paying the United States so that we don't foot the bill. 0.98

01:27:55.000 He was a close supporter of Japan for the purposes of Taiwan, stood very strong with Israel.

01:28:00.000 So again, this could be neocon-ish though.

01:28:02.000 It's not.

01:28:03.000 It's America First Populism.

01:28:05.000 Standing with NATO, Israel, and Japan as America First Populism? 0.80

01:28:10.000 Under Trump, we wouldn't expect someone who's an America First Populist to walk in and be like, as of today, there's no NATO anymore.

01:28:18.000 He went to them and said, why are we paying your bills?

01:28:21.000 All these people want to come out and brag about their, oh, Europe's got all this health care.

01:28:24.000 And it's like, how much do we cover?

01:28:26.000 How many troops do we have in Germany? 0.73

01:28:29.000 Some ridiculous number.

01:28:30.000 Is it 30? 0.97

01:28:31.000 I think it's more. 0.97

01:28:31.000 Some ridiculous number. 0.97

01:28:33.000 We're footing the bills for that.

01:28:34.000 Trump comes and says, you got to pay us if you want this service.

01:28:36.000 Cause he was focused on America first.

01:28:38.000 I think that might be the cost of the unipolar world though.

01:28:41.000 And if that's the cost to pay.

01:28:43.000 The cost of?

01:28:44.000 Uh, being a unipolar, the world's sole superpower.

01:28:46.000 That's why we have eight aircraft carriers. 0.84

01:28:48.000 It wasn't though.

01:28:49.000 He got, he got, he got Europeans to pay. 0.96

01:28:52.000 He got them to pay their dues to NATO.

01:28:55.000 Yeah.

01:28:56.000 And I'd argue that he was a neocon because of things like that.

01:28:58.000 Increasing military funding and also sending more support to our.

01:29:01.000 He was anti-war.

01:29:02.000 He's anti-war through strength, and that's what I consider neocons to be.

01:29:05.000 He got people to pay their bills.

01:29:07.000 He increased military funding, and he also supported our allies militarily more, and I'd consider that... And the neocons and the neolibs wanted to invade in the Middle East.

01:29:15.000 They liked ISIS destabilizing the region. 0.99

01:29:17.000 Instead, Trump had no new wars.

01:29:19.000 He, under his administration, got the Abraham Accords, unprecedented peace in the Middle East.

01:29:23.000 There was no conflict with Ukraine.

01:29:25.000 The region was starting to stabilize.

01:29:27.000 The economy in the United States was substantially better than it had ever been.

01:29:29.000 But the dude just couldn't shut up to save his own president, his own, you know, second term.

01:29:35.000 He couldn't save those two Congress, those two Senate seats in Georgia either, and had to give back the Senate to Joe Biden, which I feel like is an overlooked sin that Donald Trump committed.

01:29:44.000 Again, this was at the time with a lot of the election fraud stuff was just bubbling up.

01:29:48.000 Yeah, he convinced people not to vote. 1.00

01:29:49.000 It was, I can't believe how remarkably stupid that was. 0.99

01:29:52.000 Yeah, and now he's campaigning right now around the country to continue supporting candidates who will only say that the election was stolen. 0.99

01:29:59.000 And if you back off that a little bit, like Mo Brooks did, he'll withdraw, he'll send the endorsement too.

01:30:05.000 Well, the conservatives shouldn't keep focusing on Trump as the main guy.

01:30:08.000 I think it's, you know, I think DeSantis is great.

01:30:13.000 I would totally throw support behind DeSantis.

01:30:15.000 I think he's been doing great things in Florida.

01:30:17.000 And I think that, you know, his leadership for the rest of the country would be incredibly effective.

01:30:23.000 Parents all across the state of Florida support him.

01:30:26.000 His anti-grooming bill, you know, as his press secretary coined it, is wildly popular across the country with parents as well.

01:30:34.000 It is, but it's not even an anti-grooming bill.

01:30:36.000 It's just like a minor restriction on some grades.

01:30:38.000 Yeah, I mean, what it says is that teachers in grades K-12 cannot broach topics.

01:30:44.000 K-3.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, K-3, exactly.

01:30:45.000 Cannot broach topics of sex, sexual orientation.

01:30:48.000 Cannot provide classroom instruction on gender identity and orientation.

01:30:52.000 It says that they can't bring it up.

01:30:53.000 It says they can't have classroom instruction.

01:30:55.000 Not that they can't bring it up.

01:30:56.000 They're allowed to bring it up.

01:30:57.000 They're allowed to discuss it.

01:30:59.000 Teachers are allowed to go to children in certain circumstances that are four or five years old and talk to them all about orientation and identity.

01:31:06.000 The bill specifically says classroom instruction.

01:31:10.000 Which is a very specific way of talking about how you go about teaching.

01:31:16.000 Because they could say, I'm not instructing the kids on anything, I simply told them about what me and my boyfriend do.

01:31:21.000 And that's allowed.

01:31:23.000 And if a child goes to a teacher and says, I have questions about something, the teacher is still allowed to talk to them about it.

01:31:28.000 So the bill is, for many conservatives, a half measure, but the left has framed it so dramatically as Don't Say Gay that many conservatives are treating it like it actually does something that they would like, when in reality it's like, oh yeah, some grades won't have curriculum, but the teachers can still talk about it.

01:31:45.000 Well, anyway, parents are in favor of it across the country.

01:31:48.000 It prevents them from keeping secrets.

01:31:51.000 And it does say that if children ask about things, that they should tell their parents.

01:31:56.000 Well, it doesn't say that.

01:31:57.000 It says they can't tell the students.

01:31:59.000 Teachers can't tell students to withhold information, but they don't need to tell the kids to talk to their parents.

01:32:05.000 No, but it says that the teachers are supposed to tell the parents.

01:32:09.000 About mental, physical... Mental, medical, or physical issues.

01:32:14.000 Right.

01:32:14.000 But if a child goes to the teacher and says, what's trans mean?

01:32:17.000 The teacher can say whatever they want and tell no one.

01:32:20.000 So it's not this bill that... It's not an anti-grooming bill.

01:32:24.000 As I understand Critical Race Theory, a core tenet of Critical Race Theory is talking about lived experiences, and although evidence might show otherwise, that your lived experiences are more valuable than anything else.

01:32:35.000 And what I was trying to get at here is that I had a gay teacher once, it was in 5th grade.

01:32:40.000 As I remember, he was a nice teacher.

01:32:42.000 He used to give out candy and everything.

01:32:44.000 Ten years later, it came out and it was found that he was actually a sexual predator and touching kids.

01:32:51.000 And that's my whole story.

01:32:53.000 Critical race theory, lived experiences.

01:32:55.000 That's the only thing I have to contribute to the anti-grooming bill.

01:32:59.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

01:33:00.000 On that note.

01:33:00.000 Yes.

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01:33:19.000 We got a whole bunch of superchats.

01:33:21.000 Everybody's arguing.

01:33:21.000 We're arguing.

01:33:23.000 Cygnus says, thanks for keeping honest journalism alive, Tim.

01:33:26.000 Been a follower since 2019.

01:33:28.000 You seem to be the most reliable source of mainstream political global news today.

01:33:32.000 Well, I try my best.

01:33:33.000 I really do appreciate it.

01:33:33.000 I get things wrong because I can only know what people are reporting and what we can fact check.

01:33:38.000 And often mainstream press gets things wrong.

01:33:39.000 Can I just say, it says a school district may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels.

01:33:47.000 Is that the actual bill?

01:33:48.000 Yes.

01:33:49.000 The actual bill says classroom instruction.

01:33:51.000 A school district may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a matter that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.

01:34:03.000 Where are you reading that from?

01:34:05.000 I'm reading that from page three of the Parental Rights and Education Bill.

01:34:09.000 And so that's talking about school districts providing encouragement, not what teachers can or can't do individually.

01:34:14.000 It doesn't say that, but it also says that parents can bring action against a school district.

01:34:20.000 But it can only... it can't... I mean, can it say teachers can and cannot say X?

01:34:24.000 I think it... I don't know that that's... It literally says classroom instruction.

01:34:28.000 It prohibits classrooms.

01:34:28.000 That's what I just said.

01:34:29.000 But you're reading a different passage from it.

01:34:31.000 May not encourage classroom discussion.

01:34:33.000 Right.

01:34:34.000 School districts may not.

01:34:35.000 That means like a superintendent putting out a message on a curriculum that's not talking about a teacher literally walking up to a group of girls at recess and saying, do you guys want to know what trans is?

01:34:44.000 Because it doesn't prohibit that.

01:34:46.000 That's still allowed.

01:34:48.000 They can't.

01:34:48.000 What it does stop them from doing is saying, don't tell your parents.

01:34:51.000 They can't do that.

01:34:52.000 Yeah.

01:34:52.000 They're not allowed to keep any secrets, which is different.

01:34:55.000 They are allowed to keep secrets.

01:34:57.000 They just can't tell the kids to keep secrets.

01:35:00.000 So if a kid asks the teacher, what does it mean to be gay, the teacher can tell them. 0.68

01:35:03.000 The word teacher does not appear in the bill.

01:35:05.000 Right, because it says school employees in the classroom or whatever.

01:35:09.000 Right.

01:35:10.000 So it specifically says classroom instruction for kindergarten to third grade.

01:35:16.000 It doesn't say school, it doesn't, employee isn't in the bill either.

01:35:19.000 What are you talking about?

01:35:20.000 I don't know if you're reading the right bill.

01:35:21.000 I'm reading the Florida Parental Rights and Education Bill.

01:35:24.000 The final one?

01:35:25.000 The Florida Senate SB 1834.

01:35:28.000 I don't know.

01:35:29.000 I'm pretty sure you're reading something wrong.

01:35:31.000 Really?

01:35:32.000 Yeah.

01:35:33.000 Control F for classroom instruction and read the passage.

01:35:37.000 Because initially, earlier versions of the bill said pre-K and they actually changed it to kindergarten.

01:35:44.000 But I'll keep reading while you search.

01:35:46.000 Okay.

01:35:47.000 All right.

01:35:47.000 Chris Larson says, Hey Tim, been a daily listener since hearing you on Joe Rogan and love the work you do.

01:35:51.000 What do you think about if DeSantis wins the primary so Trump runs independent, thus splitting the Republican votes?

01:35:59.000 I don't think they would do that.

01:36:01.000 I think it's possible that Trump runs with DeSantis, gets one more term, and then DeSantis runs as being the VP.

01:36:08.000 He then runs for president and gets two terms.

01:36:10.000 But it's possible.

01:36:11.000 I honestly don't know for sure.

01:36:12.000 Trump will have to allow DeSantis, or he'll have to wait his turn.

01:36:15.000 Like, if Trump runs, I think DeSantis' political calculations has to be don't.

01:36:21.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:36:23.000 Tim Chrysler says, you should check out the S2 Underground YouTube channel titled, 5th Generation Warfare.

01:36:30.000 Might connect some dots for you and your crew.

01:36:33.000 We actually get accused of talking about 4th and 5th generational warfare too much, but definitely interested in checking that out.

01:36:40.000 Alright, HeftyJongle says, hey ShimCast and crew, it's my birthday.

01:36:44.000 Gotta get a shoutout, fellas.

01:36:45.000 Have a nice night.

01:36:47.000 From the ShimCast crew here over at ShimCast Central, we want to wish you a happy, happy birthday and another wonderful year of life.

01:36:54.000 Hopefully many more than that.

01:36:56.000 Sammykin says, why do people buy $19.99 superchats and not $20?

01:37:02.000 Is there an unspoken rule that you shouldn't buy a $20 superchat?

01:37:05.000 If you buy a superchat and it has a cent instead of a full dollar amount, you are using an iPhone.

01:37:11.000 This, in my opinion, is likely done by Google to differentiate who is using Android and who is using iPhone because the Android app does full dollar increments and iPhone drops it by one penny.

01:37:21.000 Although, I find that strange because with the insane amounts of people who use iPhone, they're seriously losing a lot of money, because pennies add up.

01:37:29.000 And if there's a million iPhone users who send one super chat, you're talking about thousands.

01:37:33.000 What is that?

01:37:34.000 A million divided by a hundred, so you're looking at ten grand?

01:37:38.000 But that seems to be why they do it.

01:37:40.000 I don't know exactly why they do it, but that seems to be the differentiating factor.

01:37:44.000 If you're on a computer or Android phone, then it is full dollar increments.

01:37:48.000 Hunter Biden's crack pipe says, those aren't stink bugs, they're NSA spying drones.

01:37:52.000 Snowden was right.

01:37:54.000 Little did we know.

01:37:55.000 My friends, there is an app called Akinator.

01:37:57.000 A-K-I-N-A-T-O-R. 1.00

01:38:00.000 And what you do is, it says, think of a character, real or fake, and I'll guess who it is by asking questions.

01:38:05.000 It's fun.

01:38:06.000 And so you'll think of somebody like, we did Seamus.

01:38:09.000 And it was like, is your person a YouTuber?

01:38:11.000 And we're like, yes.

01:38:11.000 And it's like, is he animated?

01:38:13.000 And we're like, no, he's not animated.

01:38:15.000 And then it's like... No, we said he was.

01:38:17.000 We said he was animated, right?

01:38:18.000 No, no, we were talking about you personally, to see if you would come up.

01:38:21.000 But ultimately it said, after 30 questions, it was like, you're thinking of Freedom Tunes.

01:38:25.000 And we're like, wow!

01:38:26.000 But it doesn't ask anything overtly specific.

01:38:29.000 And so then I ended up doing Hunter Biden.

01:38:33.000 The last question, this is hilarious, is like, does he scam people?

01:38:37.000 And I put yes.

01:38:38.000 And then it's like, you're thinking of Hunter Biden.

01:38:40.000 And it shows a picture of him in bed with a crack pipe in his mouth.

01:38:42.000 And I'm just like, wow, that's the photo they're using.

01:38:46.000 All right then.

01:38:46.000 I think, I think beneath the censorship surface, people really don't like the establishment.

01:38:52.000 Dude, I just about died because we, yeah, we were doing that at breakfast, just trying to like figure out who it would guess and people we know.

01:39:00.000 And it was very, very interesting to see who was in that system.

01:39:03.000 I would, I would recommend y'all play with it.

01:39:05.000 It's a lot of fun.

01:39:06.000 Miss Normus, first name Dixie, says, Tim and crew, please keep the town of Pembroke GA in your prayers this evening.

01:39:13.000 A bad tornado tore through this afternoon, leaving many injured.

01:39:16.000 Thank you.

01:39:17.000 Wow, sad to hear it, man.

01:39:19.000 Sad to hear it.

01:39:21.000 All right.

01:39:22.000 Mike S. says, what millennial kid did not want to be one of the Ninja Turtles?

01:39:25.000 I was legit Michelangelo for several Halloweens.

01:39:29.000 I am glad my parents didn't actually surgically turn me into a turtle.

01:39:31.000 I didn't want to be a Ninja Turtle.

01:39:33.000 I wanted to be an X-Man.

01:39:35.000 I was like, yeah, and I was like, you know, Cyclops could shoot laser beams out of his eyes.

01:39:39.000 Wolverine, he was super cool.

01:39:41.000 Because he could, you know, eat claws and... I wanted to be Jem.

01:39:45.000 Jem from Jem and the Holograms.

01:39:47.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:48.000 Jem.

01:39:49.000 I wanted to be able to go super saiyan. 0.98

01:39:51.000 I didn't want to be one of the characters.

01:39:52.000 I just wanted to be able to go super saiyan. 0.93

01:39:54.000 Have the abilities.

01:39:55.000 I've tried to.

01:39:56.000 What I liked about Dragon Ball Z is that they at least entertain the possibility of humans being able to be super powerful.

01:40:04.000 And I like characters who can earn their abilities, not just have them.

01:40:08.000 So that's why I like Batman.

01:40:09.000 That's why I like Dragon Ball Z, because Krillin, the strongest human being on the planet, and then he's all chill about it, but he's just ridiculously powerful, and he can fly.

01:40:18.000 Well, Tim, I saw a tweet that said Batman's superpower is white privilege, so get rekt.

01:40:23.000 That's actually true.

01:40:25.000 It's actually true.

01:40:26.000 Oh, whoa.

01:40:27.000 Wouldn't it have been the money?

01:40:28.000 Yo, that's a really good idea.

01:40:31.000 That's actually a good idea for a bit or a comic.

01:40:33.000 It's a guy who uses white privilege as a superpower.

01:40:35.000 Oh my gosh.

01:40:36.000 Well, that's how they see themselves.

01:40:37.000 They say, I'm using my white privilege to help marginalized people.

01:40:41.000 Maybe you should make a cartoon about it.

01:40:45.000 All right.

01:40:46.000 Ryan Grasaf says, check the dates.

01:40:48.000 Elon pushed for the buy on March 14th.

01:40:50.000 That's more than a week before he polled people.

01:40:52.000 He definitely has some ideas and plans coming.

01:40:54.000 I'd love to see it.

01:40:55.000 You know, the fact that he called the Babylon Bee guys was, uh, was indicative of something.

01:41:01.000 Muad says, last time Libby was here, she said by her standards, she didn't think we've ever had a good president.

01:41:06.000 Does she still feel that way?

01:41:08.000 A good president?

01:41:11.000 Hmm not even Woodrow Wilson.

01:41:12.000 Hmm.

01:41:13.000 I think I've been reading a little about about LBJ lately.

01:41:18.000 I think he's sort of interesting But I gotta say I liked, you know, I liked Trump You know Kevin Reed says me me and my wife watch your so show every night She would love if you shared to the chat Isaiah chapter 24 verse 1 through 23.

01:41:35.000 Keep up the good work Do you know what that is?

01:41:37.000 Wait, can you repeat that?

01:41:38.000 Isaiah, chapter 24, verse 1 through 23.

01:41:41.000 No, but I can Google it.

01:41:43.000 Google it.

01:41:44.000 We'll see what that's all about.

01:41:44.000 Isaiah, wait, Isaiah.

01:41:47.000 I have the, I could pull it up right here on my phone.

01:41:49.000 While you guys are pulling it up, let's read more.

01:41:51.000 Let's see.

01:41:52.000 So this is the tweet I mentioned earlier.

01:41:53.000 This is, It's not a platform because liberals have platforms.

01:41:58.000 Far from it.

01:41:58.000 Those platforms were all conservative, ones the left wormed into and called theirs.

01:42:04.000 Commies don't have ideas, don't create, they take, they conquer things that work to call them their own retroactively. 0.95

01:42:10.000 Well, when Reddit was first started, one of the default subreddits was atheism.

01:42:17.000 So it wasn't overtly conservative, but it was very civil libertarian at the very least.

01:42:22.000 So very meritocratic.

01:42:24.000 I think jailbait was also subreddit, so definitely libertarian leaning.

01:42:28.000 That wasn't a default, though.

01:42:30.000 It wasn't a default?

01:42:30.000 Yeah, atheism.

01:42:32.000 So, when you would go to Reddit, it would show you as one of their main forums, atheism, and people were like, why?

01:42:40.000 People genuinely were just like...

01:42:42.000 It would be the same as if they had a Christianity subreddit as the default.

01:42:45.000 It's like a religious, like, let people have their community for sure, but the default should be, like, pics, videos, news.

01:42:52.000 It didn't even have news.

01:42:53.000 There was no news default.

01:42:54.000 That was the weirdest thing.

01:42:56.000 I don't think they have defaults now.

01:42:57.000 They just have, like, all or something.

01:42:59.000 Also when people say it was conservative, I think it's just because the definition of conservative has changed so

01:43:04.000 rapidly over the past Did you see that super chat about my pencil?

01:43:07.000 All right, it says lobby which my Jack my auto correct does that to you?

01:43:15.000 Lobby is holding my favorite pencil Blackwing 602.

01:43:18.000 That's correct.

01:43:19.000 I love this pencil.

01:43:21.000 Who's the sexist saying Enterprise is better than Voyager? 0.99

01:43:24.000 It's a liar. 0.94

01:43:25.000 Half the pressure, twice the speed.

01:43:29.000 I, man, um... Should we say their name?

01:43:32.000 Voyager!

01:43:32.000 Say his name!

01:43:34.000 Oh, um, Scroats McGoats says Enterprise is better than Voyager.

01:43:37.000 Fight me.

01:43:38.000 See, my problem with Voyager is that, um... Oh, that's just not even true.

01:43:41.000 Who was it who pointed this out?

01:43:42.000 Voyager is the first female captain, and it's a show about her getting lost. 0.98

01:43:47.000 The whole series is they get lost, like, and they're trying to get back home for all seven seasons.

01:43:53.000 Also, they had such antagonistic characters.

01:43:56.000 I much prefer the characters that work together and they face conflict together instead of constantly being at each other's throats.

01:44:04.000 Voyager's alright though.

01:44:05.000 Enterprise, it's not bad.

01:44:07.000 It's just prequels.

01:44:08.000 It's boring.

01:44:09.000 You know what the thing is?

01:44:11.000 You know what its future is.

01:44:13.000 You know where it's going, so who cares?

01:44:17.000 It was kind of the first time that Star Trek decided it was going to try to be something other than Star Trek.

01:44:22.000 They were trying to update it and bring it into the 2000s.

01:44:25.000 Wait, wait, hold on.

01:44:27.000 Ghost Crusader says, Hey Tim, did you see the teaser trailer for Picard season 3?

01:44:31.000 Yes, they released the season 3 teaser a year before they release season 3, while season 2 isn't over yet.

01:44:39.000 I stopped watching season two anyway.

01:44:41.000 I, yeah, I don't watch it.

01:44:42.000 I was like doing a whole arc, a whole season based on one Q plot.

01:44:47.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 I'm just like, also Q doesn't really, yeah.

01:44:50.000 It doesn't really act like Q. They made him like evil.

01:44:52.000 Yeah.

01:44:53.000 They made him kind of not, nobody's having any fun on that show.

01:44:55.000 That's a problem.

01:44:56.000 Star Trek has a lot of fun.

01:44:58.000 They hate fun.

01:44:58.000 Remember when lefties hate fun?

01:45:00.000 The lefties hate fun.

01:45:01.000 They can't write anything fun.

01:45:03.000 Q gets his powers taken away from him, and then he's like, I don't want to live anymore.

01:45:09.000 And then he ends up redeeming himself, so they give him his powers back, and he teleports to the Enterprise bridge with a sombrero and maracas with the mariachi band playing.

01:45:19.000 And now what they're doing is he's like, It's time for penance, Picard!

01:45:23.000 And I'm like, what is this?

01:45:24.000 And then he sends them to a universe where humans are all racist.

01:45:28.000 And I'm just like, come on, like, can we just be done with this?

01:45:31.000 Let's, let's have something fun, hopeful, energetic, interesting about the future of humanity that doesn't suck. 0.92

01:45:39.000 But it's like, we can only envision ourselves as a massive suck fest. 0.96

01:45:43.000 You know, we hate life. 0.99

01:45:44.000 We hate humanity.

01:45:46.000 We should make a show called Space Travel, and it'll be about the Galactic Republic.

01:45:53.000 What if it's like the Galactic Monarchy?

01:45:55.000 They have space travel, but they just revert back to monarchy and everyone decides that that's going to be the thing.

01:45:58.000 In the 2300s, everyone realizes monarchy is the perfect form of government.

01:46:02.000 It's funny because these shows are very Hegelian.

01:46:05.000 The idea is they've finally achieved the perfect political system and ended history.

01:46:10.000 But it's just, you have one world government.

01:46:12.000 I think it would be interesting if you had a sci-fi series where the world was extremely technologically developed but people had their own ideas and not everyone was on the exact same page ideologically.

01:46:22.000 That'd be interesting.

01:46:22.000 Yeah.

01:46:23.000 But instead it's like, nope, we're all on the same team and we believe this.

01:46:26.000 And it's just boring.

01:46:27.000 All right.

01:46:28.000 Malcolm Flex says, banned for the third time on Twitter.

01:46:31.000 Only gained 3K on my alt profiles from this stint.

01:46:34.000 Gonna have to ask Elon to unban all three of my accounts.

01:46:37.000 Good luck.

01:46:38.000 Wait, do you see the one about how there should be indie artists?

01:46:41.000 That Daily Wire should bring up indie artists?

01:46:42.000 Santa says Daily Wire should bring in independent artists like Tom McDonald, Adam Chelan, Snow, and actors that's been blacklisted by Hollywood.

01:46:50.000 They are!

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:51.000 I can't say too much.

01:46:52.000 We're gonna be in Nashville next week hanging out at the Daily Wire headquarters.

01:46:56.000 It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.

01:46:57.000 But we've been talking to them about quite a bit because obviously we're doing cultural stuff too.

01:47:01.000 A lot of our stuff is, you know, similar but different.

01:47:04.000 They're doing traditional Hollywood approach.

01:47:06.000 I think they're now trying to do a social media thing.

01:47:08.000 We've been way more social media.

01:47:11.000 I announced earlier that we're going to be doing a $100,000 ad buy for Chicken City.

01:47:15.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:47:16.000 And it was funny because people got mad at me for it.

01:47:19.000 A lot of people laughed.

01:47:19.000 And I was like, if you don't understand why we would do something like that, then you don't understand.

01:47:26.000 Culture.

01:47:26.000 Or Chicken City, obviously.

01:47:28.000 Chicken Culture.

01:47:28.000 Which is pretty amazing.

01:47:29.000 First I will say, Chicken City is our second highest grossing show because we launched Chicken Party.

01:47:34.000 I got to see the Chicken Party today.

01:47:35.000 Whenever there's $100 in Super Chats, it triggers a chicken party with lights and dance music.

01:47:42.000 Now, I'm going to break it down for people who don't understand why we would spend so much money promoting Chicken Party.

01:47:46.000 And I'm just going to come out and say it.

01:47:48.000 Promoting, buying a commercial that is completely insane and putting it on TV is marketing for the entire company.

01:47:57.000 Because people will say, what did I just watch?

01:48:01.000 It's like Quiznos.

01:48:02.000 That's what I said when I saw Chicken Party. 0.66

01:48:03.000 Exactly.

01:48:04.000 Quiznos did a commercial with these weird things singing.

01:48:07.000 You remember that weird commercial?

01:48:08.000 Yeah.

01:48:09.000 Where it's like, we like to party!

01:48:11.000 And they teach that in marketing classes at colleges.

01:48:14.000 They were like, this was one of the most successful campaigns because it was so insane.

01:48:17.000 They used to do ads where there was like a picture of a woman on a swing with three legs. 0.99

01:48:22.000 They would do things to try and make you go, what?

01:48:24.000 And your brain would be shocked by it and you'd remember it.

01:48:28.000 We're not just willy-nilly doing things. 0.97

01:48:30.000 The point of Chicken City is to make commercials that actually promote the entirety of the company and the weird cultural stuff we're doing while trying to be just silly, fun, and just not boring, stodgy garbage.

01:48:41.000 Plus, I gotta bounce with you guys, Chicken City is wildly successful.

01:48:44.000 It's really cool.

01:48:45.000 Like, several hundred dollars per day generated from people just wanting to see the chicken party.

01:48:49.000 So, it's working.

01:48:51.000 Really, several hundred dollars a day from people who just want to see Chicken Party?

01:48:54.000 Yeah, I think we did 300 bucks the other day.

01:48:56.000 I should tune in more, see more Chicken Parties. 0.98

01:48:59.000 We're still refining the system, because the way it works right now is... It's more than animation makes on YouTube, bro!

01:49:04.000 Whenever $100, there's a meter, and whenever $100 reaches, the meter resets, and that triggers

01:49:12.000 a, in the code, it basically, I'll give you the very simplified version.

01:49:19.000 There is, every five minutes, the computer checks, does X equal, you know, does X increment plus one?

01:49:28.000 If the answer is yes, chicken party plays, but only on the fives.

01:49:32.000 So zero, five, 10, 15, 20, 25.

01:49:35.000 So if the problem we're facing is that people will, people will pay a hundred bucks at like, That's because it's cool.

01:49:41.000 1 a.m. and it's got to wait four minutes until the check runs. So we don't have a system that can...

01:49:47.000 So what we're gonna do is we're gonna put Chicken Party activated like a timer showing you on the

01:49:51.000 fives that Chicken Party will play. But people are...

01:49:53.000 Someone gave us 75 bucks today because they were like, eh, let's see the Chicken Party and they 0.99

01:49:57.000 paid it. People love seeing the chickens and the lights and the... That's because it's cool. And

01:50:02.000 they love supporting Timcast. Well, ultimately the reason we do stuff like Chicken City, we're

01:50:08.000 gonna buy billboards.

01:50:08.000 words, we.

01:50:10.000 Remember we talked about doing Our Pillow?

01:50:11.000 You guys remember that?

01:50:13.000 We are going to be creating culture.

01:50:15.000 And the point is, I think about Elon Musk buying Twitter, and I've always asked this.

01:50:20.000 I tweeted at Elon Musk a while ago, why didn't you build an Iron Man suit yet?

01:50:23.000 And he tweeted at me, building Starship.

01:50:25.000 And I was like, that is acceptable.

01:50:27.000 That's at least a good reason.

01:50:29.000 Why aren't more people with access and privilege doing anything interesting?

01:50:35.000 And so my issue is like, I want to make this company something that is like a roguish company that is screwing with the system, that is culture jamming, that is just shaking things up a little bit and inspiring people to be active and to make things more fun.

01:50:50.000 That's one thing that I really like is that you're not doing this with an ideological brand.

01:50:55.000 There's no political, you know, freedom.

01:50:59.000 Freedom is not political.

01:51:00.000 Freedom is like, you know, a human right, a natural right.

01:51:05.000 But I like that it's really about the aesthetics.

01:51:07.000 It's about fun.

01:51:08.000 It's about, you know, enjoying the content, enjoying the imaginative, creative, curious process that goes into developing that kind of stuff.

01:51:19.000 I think that that's what we need more of.

01:51:21.000 I think we need so much more of that and we used to have more of that and it got completely co-opted by ideologues.

01:51:28.000 It's time to just break out of that.

01:51:30.000 It doesn't matter what your political perspective is.

01:51:32.000 Have fun, create stuff, build things.

01:51:35.000 I like what the Daily Wire is doing, for sure.

01:51:37.000 They're doing the Jeremy's Razors commercial.

01:51:39.000 But let's read more.

01:51:39.000 We got Captain Apathy says, Tim, the left is countering the groomer narrative with talking about the very strange HB 233 in Tennessee, the home state of the Daily Wire.

01:51:48.000 I don't know what that is.

01:51:48.000 Do you guys want to look that one up?

01:51:51.000 Victor Rodriguez says, Mr. Freeze's quote at the end.

01:51:54.000 I failed you.

01:51:55.000 I wish there were another way for me to say it.

01:51:57.000 I cannot.

01:51:57.000 I can only beg your forgiveness and pray you hear me somehow.

01:52:00.000 Someplace.

01:52:01.000 Someplace where a warm hand waits for mine.

01:52:04.000 Dude, that... I feel like they could redo it again.

01:52:10.000 The episode is still a little campy, for what it is.

01:52:14.000 But it was like one of the first times they're like, hey, let's give a villain like a tragic backstory and not make him just this like, you know, like Joker's crazy.

01:52:23.000 He's cool.

01:52:24.000 But the Joker movie was incredible because they made him this like, in the movie Joker, you kind of understood why he was pissed off that you guys have seen Joker, right?

01:52:35.000 The last joke when he's sitting on stage with Robert De Niro.

01:52:39.000 You get what you effing deserve. I was just like, oh my god, like that movie was amazing.

01:52:45.000 I love that. Tim, I wanted to ask you, I know I didn't send a super chat, but on this idea of

01:52:49.000 building culture, because I know you guys focus on it a lot, you guys say that at the same time

01:52:53.000 as you say like, leave the cities. And I'm a Brooklynite right now.

01:52:58.000 Every inch of Brooklyn in Manhattan is iconic.

01:53:00.000 Do you guys feel like you might be missing out on helping build or develop culture by not being in the city or different cities?

01:53:07.000 Like New York City that's, you know, fashion capital of the world, Broadway, everything.

01:53:12.000 That's 20 years ago.

01:53:13.000 You don't think still every inch of Manhattan is iconic?

01:53:15.000 You don't think you could have more cultural impact there?

01:53:17.000 No.

01:53:19.000 You're too restricted.

01:53:20.000 You can't be loud.

01:53:23.000 Casey and I did a lot with New York, and he broke the law a lot.

01:53:27.000 He was flying drones around, getting in trouble.

01:53:29.000 He was driving in cars.

01:53:31.000 He was snowboarding in the street.

01:53:32.000 A lot of what he was doing, yeah, if you want to take those risks, I suppose.

01:53:36.000 But you can't play music.

01:53:38.000 You've got to find a band.

01:53:39.000 You can't play in your own home.

01:53:40.000 But New York City is like the cultural capital of Earth.

01:53:43.000 Not anymore.

01:53:44.000 As far as I see it.

01:53:45.000 Where would be the cultural capital now?

01:53:46.000 I think we are.

01:53:47.000 I think we are resorting.

01:53:48.000 I think we're still number one.

01:53:49.000 No, I don't.

01:53:50.000 I think you're wrong.

01:53:51.000 I think we are.

01:53:52.000 About New York City being the cultural capital of the world?

01:53:53.000 Yeah, I do think that.

01:53:54.000 I think it has been and I don't think that there is one at this point.

01:53:58.000 I do think we are resorting.

01:54:00.000 But there isn't a place like when you get out of college, you know,

01:54:03.000 and you want to go do something new, I don't know why you would go to New York at this point.

01:54:07.000 It doesn't have the same kind of offering as it did even 20 years ago.

01:54:10.000 Wall Street, biggest news companies, Broadway.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, you're talking about a whole bunch of... This is all influential.

01:54:17.000 No, this is all culture.

01:54:18.000 You're talking about a whole lot of things that are irrelevant.

01:54:20.000 Okay, okay.

01:54:21.000 Wall Street has not been physically relevant for 20 years.

01:54:23.000 That's correct.

01:54:24.000 Their money is.

01:54:24.000 No, of course it is.

01:54:25.000 But the money isn't on Wall Street.

01:54:27.000 The money is on the internet.

01:54:28.000 There is a guy who... There is a guy...

01:54:30.000 No one is at Wall Street, bro.

01:54:32.000 No one's there.

01:54:33.000 Okay.

01:54:33.000 No one is physically there.

01:54:35.000 They're not there, dude.

01:54:35.000 They're all at their houses.

01:54:37.000 There's a guy.

01:54:37.000 Yeah, they're all in houses and apartments all over the country.

01:54:40.000 There's a guy who has crazy hair who's there at the stock exchange just so that people can take pictures of him when stock stories happen because there's nobody there.

01:54:47.000 Sure, nobody goes there anymore.

01:54:49.000 I don't know.

01:54:49.000 I think we might be overlooking the cultural significance of the greatest city on earth, but They did fashion planet earth there's everything listen they did fashion week online, right?

01:55:00.000 I can see all the fashion weeks now I don't have to like wait around for New York's fashion week.

01:55:04.000 I can see all of them online.

01:55:05.000 I Even Trump Tower is in New York City for a reason, but we can move on.

01:55:08.000 There's a Trump Tower in D.C., a Trump Tower in Chicago, right?

01:55:11.000 We're talking about the greatest city on the planet.

01:55:13.000 Listen, I love New York as much as the next person, but I think you're completely wrong about the cultural stake it has in the country at this point.

01:55:19.000 Rent is $3,000 to $4,000.

01:55:23.000 Rent is very expensive everywhere, but also in New York City.

01:55:26.000 It is higher in New York City, but it's the cost of living.

01:55:28.000 This is my pitch to New York City.

01:55:30.000 Right now, my age group, there are twice as many females than there are males in New York City. 0.99

01:55:34.000 Moreover, among the males, there is a larger homosexual population than the females.

01:55:40.000 So I'm telling you, it is a prime time to be a young man in New York City. 0.99

01:55:43.000 Yeah, if you want to lick the boot of woke people. 1.00

01:55:46.000 I don't lick no boot of poor people. 1.00

01:55:48.000 That's correct.

01:55:48.000 They came out with vax mandates and they had exemptions for themselves.

01:55:52.000 It is a corrupt city full of just garbage policies. 0.99

01:55:57.000 These are the people who vote for the Democrats who appoint the police and then they protest 1.00

01:56:01.000 the people they voted for.

01:56:02.000 That's correct.

01:56:03.000 It's absolutely psychotic. 0.59

01:56:04.000 It is psychotic.

01:56:05.000 It is really expensive.

01:56:07.000 Look, New York and LA are places you go after you've already established yourself.

01:56:12.000 And the biggest mistake people make, I've seen in my whole life, is I'm going to move

01:56:15.000 to the big city to succeed.

01:56:16.000 And it's like, why?

01:56:18.000 So you can be a bootlicking intern at a company?

01:56:21.000 The best thing to do if you want to create art and you want to do things that are fun is like get a bunch of your friends pick a town and I'll move there together and Get cheap places, you know do stuff for fun Have a band start a coffee shop.

01:56:36.000 Enjoy yourself.

01:56:37.000 Like relax spend your money where it counts You don't have to do the constant hustle that's required in New York where you only see your friends on Monday work hard and The world is yours in New York City you could make it there you can make it anywhere Yeah, thanks Liza Minnelli.

01:56:52.000 She's aging out too.

01:56:54.000 But you look at all of the big YouTubers and all the top personalities and it's like people start YouTube channels from their basement in rural areas now and they become wealthy.

01:57:03.000 We actually, I started in New York City and left because it was stagnant and it was a waste of money.

01:57:11.000 Come back, Tim.

01:57:11.000 You could do great things here with the culture.

01:57:15.000 We're doing so much more having left New York City.

01:57:18.000 The fact that I'm still there is just cultural lag.

01:57:20.000 Maybe we could start a Timcast branch in Brooklyn.

01:57:23.000 New York is a mistake.

01:57:24.000 And that's why, you know, you see half a million people flee the city over COVID.

01:57:29.000 The people who have remained, it's just like, you know what New York City is?

01:57:33.000 People chasing after someone else's dream, instead of going and making their own thing.

01:57:37.000 For the record, too, I don't think New York is lefty.

01:57:40.000 I think it is liberal and firmly liberal.

01:57:42.000 We did elect a Democrat.

01:57:43.000 We always elect Democrats now, but we did elect Mayor Eric Adams, who was a former NYPD officer.

01:57:48.000 And he's backtracking on everything.

01:57:50.000 Well, the left hates him, and he's still harsh towards the left. 0.96

01:57:53.000 New York is insane people voting for insane people and complaining about the insane people who run the city. 0.97

01:57:58.000 That's right. 0.77

01:57:59.000 Adams just fired one of a, was it a lawyer who worked for the city? Because she was like, 1.00

01:58:04.000 you said masks would come off kids. And then he was like, yeah, well, I don't care. So screw you.

01:58:08.000 Like, dude, these people keep voting for the same thing. 0.99

01:58:11.000 And then they protest it and then vote for the same thing. It's laughably bad. New York City

01:58:16.000 is overly expensive. It smells like sour milk. People complain about what they vote for.

01:58:21.000 There was a day 10 years ago, it spelled like it smelled like syrup.

01:58:24.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:25.000 It was a really nice day.

01:58:25.000 Most of the time it just smells like pot.

01:58:27.000 Alright, we gotta read more Super Chats. 0.74

01:58:28.000 Let's see what we got.

01:58:30.000 Hunter Biden's Crack Pipe says, I believe in pro-choice.

01:58:33.000 Man and woman both choose to have sex or not. 0.69

01:58:36.000 Birth control or not.

01:58:36.000 Then nine months later, mom can choose to keep or give up for adoption.

01:58:40.000 Man can choose to take responsibility or not.

01:58:42.000 Fair for both sexes.

01:58:44.000 Not fair for the child, maybe.

01:58:47.000 I mean, what's the alternative? 0.98

01:58:47.000 Killing it? 0.98

01:58:49.000 I guess so. 0.98

01:58:49.000 No, no, there's no perfect solution. 0.98

01:58:51.000 We're just tragedy.

01:58:52.000 I mean, I think not killing it is the, is better for the child in every capacity.

01:58:56.000 It's weird that like, I see these people and they're like, poor kids would be better off being aborted. 0.94

01:59:01.000 And it's like, you're telling people you wish they were like, you'd prefer them dead.

01:59:05.000 I mean, the thing about life is, you know, every life is a, is an opportunity to experience God's grace.

01:59:11.000 And that makes it worth it, whether it's five minutes or 400 years.

01:59:15.000 Amen.

01:59:17.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:59:19.000 Grofty says, Buck!

01:59:20.000 Grofty has been greatly supporting Chicken City.

01:59:24.000 When you give $5 on Chicken City, treats fall down from the sky egg and the chickens all run.

01:59:30.000 And it's funny when they like stare at it because they know food comes from there, but they don't know why or when.

01:59:35.000 It's just like, it's like Chicken Truman Show.

01:59:38.000 Having no idea who's watching these chickens.

01:59:40.000 It's hilarious.

01:59:41.000 Chicken Party is fantastic, though.

01:59:43.000 We love Chicken Party.

01:59:45.000 All right, Democratic Detox says, y'all not takin' our DeSantis, forget about it!

01:59:50.000 Can you imagine being in Florida?

01:59:51.000 It's like, please don't leave, man.

01:59:54.000 Don't run for president.

01:59:55.000 Didn't he win by a small margin against Andrew Gillum?

01:59:59.000 Or am I talking about a different race and he had a full seat? 0.90

02:00:01.000 Wasn't Andrew Gillum like a crackhead in a hotel room? 0.60

02:00:03.000 It came out after, but he lost by I remember that crackhead story. 0.88

02:00:08.000 story. So I mean it's crazy how DeSantis had this come up really because if he lost that

02:00:12.000 race by those few votes, this would have happened. Yeah, it's true. When I was in Florida I was

02:00:16.000 talking to Floridians like, I was talking to somebody who was like, do you think DeSantis

02:00:21.000 should be president? And they were like, no, he should stay here. And I was like, alright,

02:00:25.000 alright. Nicole Salcido says, if a mom shoots through a wall on purpose to kill her child,

02:00:30.000 she goes to jail.

02:00:31.000 What's the difference with the baby being in utero?

02:00:33.000 It's the same child behind a wall.

02:00:35.000 The child's location shouldn't matter.

02:00:37.000 That's the interesting thing.

02:00:38.000 The weirdest thing about this is like, if a woman is eight months pregnant, and she's like, oh, no, I'm giving birth prematurely, and the baby would survive, then what does she do? 0.98

02:00:50.000 Does she run to Planned Parenthood and say, quick, kill it before it comes out? 0.98

02:00:53.000 And it's legal? 0.99

02:00:54.000 Like, apparently it is.

02:00:55.000 In some states.

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:57.000 And then it's like, oh, no, I gave birth!

02:00:59.000 It's alive now.

02:01:00.000 Like, is that really the system that we're supposed to be living in?

02:01:04.000 It's a horror show.

02:01:05.000 But this is what's happening with unrestricted abortion. 0.74

02:01:08.000 The other thing, too, is there was, for a long time, a conversation about viability.

02:01:13.000 And the conversation was about if the child would be viable outside of the mother's body.

02:01:18.000 And if it was, then abortion was not acceptable.

02:01:23.000 Which is around 23 weeks, if I'm not mistaken.

02:01:25.000 That's like the viability, 50% outside of the womb, I believe.

02:01:28.000 It keeps getting lower and lower.

02:01:30.000 I think there was like 21 weeks.

02:01:32.000 We gotta read only a couple more.

02:01:33.000 So smash that like button if you haven't already.

02:01:36.000 Jay Rickerts says, Tim is missing the point.

02:01:38.000 I wish everyone would stay in New York and stop moving to Florida, except Libby can come. 1.00

02:01:42.000 That's it.

02:01:43.000 Thanks.

02:01:43.000 What about me?

02:01:44.000 What?

02:01:44.000 I appreciate it.

02:01:46.000 You're gonna go to Florida and trash and talk about how great New York is.

02:01:49.000 In 50 years I'll be in Florida, but not now.

02:01:51.000 So this is what I was getting into earlier.

02:01:53.000 Good luck finding real estate there.

02:01:55.000 Oh please.

02:01:56.000 GC says I'm pro-life but I think we should not trust politicians to create laws banning

02:01:59.000 medical procedures or care.

02:02:01.000 Some abortions are necessary to save the life of the mother. 1.00

02:02:04.000 Look up ectopic pregnancy. 0.75

02:02:06.000 So this is what I was getting into earlier.

02:02:08.000 Ectopic pregnancies are classified by like WebMD, Mayo Clinic, and even Planned Parenthood.

02:02:14.000 They're not referred to as abortions.

02:02:16.000 So it's a situation where you're attempting a procedure or not just attempting but performing a procedure that will result in the death of the unborn child to save the mother, but the intention is not to go in there and kill the unborn child.

02:02:28.000 But the other thing too is if you let an ectopic pregnancy progress, it will kill the child and the mother.

02:02:32.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

02:02:33.000 It will kill everyone. 0.95

02:02:34.000 Generally, yeah. 0.90

02:02:35.000 It will be a disaster.

02:02:37.000 Mshiba says, keep talking culture, but what happened to the card game that you were working on?

02:02:42.000 Let's work on it, man.

02:02:42.000 Let's get it pumped out.

02:02:43.000 Yes, we will.

02:02:44.000 And the issue is we need someone who knows how to make games.

02:02:50.000 I think it was mostly a playtesting bottleneck we wanted to figure out.

02:02:53.000 It wasn't playtesting.

02:02:54.000 It was that we started with a complex game, and then it was very, very complex.

02:03:00.000 It was a turn-based strategy game.

02:03:02.000 We decided to make a simplified version that was a party game, but we're trying to figure out the game took too long.

02:03:09.000 I've played the simplified version.

02:03:11.000 We did this a couple months ago.

02:03:12.000 I thought it was a lot of fun.

02:03:12.000 I do think we got it to a good place.

02:03:14.000 But I know that a lot more playtesting is required than just me enjoying it.

02:03:18.000 But I feel good about the thing.

02:03:19.000 Mostly the point of the game is just so that there's going to be cards of people you know and love.

02:03:23.000 So I was like, let's just make a really, really simple, really fast game where it's funny that you're having Alex Jones trying to get, you know, Big Red the Feminist cancelled off the internet or something.

02:03:33.000 And then you're having, you know... You know what we should do?

02:03:35.000 That sounds fun.

02:03:36.000 the cards we should have the uh as soon as someone gets banned from the internet we stop printing their card and so if you had that card it's extra rare yeah all right everybody if you have that and i like it yeah we will if you haven't already smash the like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends we are going to start recording that members only podcast which will be up at timcast.com so sign up there if you want to watch it it'll be up around 11 or so pm you can follow the show at timcast irl you can follow me at timcast Alad, do you want to shout anything out?

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