Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Jan 6th Defendant NOT GUILTY, Judge AGREES Cops Let Them In w-Andrew Klavan

00:00:00.000 In the third trial pertaining to the January 6th insurrection, as CNN likes to call it,

00:00:14.000 the judge agreed with the defendant.

00:00:17.000 The police let them in the building.

00:00:19.000 And therefore, there's no trespassing.

00:00:21.000 And nothing else makes sense after that.

00:00:24.000 Oh, I'd just like to gloat on this one for a minute because the Young Turks told me, or they told everyone, I made the dumbest argument by saying, if people are fanned in by police with no warning to leave, you can't convict them for trespass.

00:00:37.000 And here we are.

00:00:38.000 Now there was another trial where a man was convicted of trespassing, but this is because The same judge was like, you've, you climbed over some barrier and could clearly see it was closed off.

00:00:48.000 So you knew what you were doing.

00:00:50.000 But as for those who were waved in by the cops and had the doors open, we may be seeing a wave of acquittals for people who actually decide to go on trial.

00:00:59.000 In this instance, a bench trial.

00:01:00.000 So we'll definitely talk about that.

00:01:02.000 We have a major scandal involving Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:01:04.000 It's being reported.

00:01:06.000 And this is, this is crazy.

00:01:07.000 This is a scandal.

00:01:08.000 This is scandalous.

00:01:09.000 Someone from associated with BLM bought a mansion for $3.1 million and then six days later sold it to BLM for $5.8 million.

00:01:17.000 Where'd that $2.7 million go?

00:01:19.000 And why did it happen this way?

00:01:21.000 It seems some people believe that they were trying to funnel money from the nonprofit into private hands.

00:01:28.000 So we'll go through that story.

00:01:29.000 Plus we're going to talk about, man, Democrats are in for an apocalyptic November.

00:01:34.000 In Pennsylvania, Republicans are converting Democrats four times faster than the inverse.

00:01:41.000 People quitting the Republican Party are not doing it relative to the other way around.

00:01:44.000 Long story short, Democrats are quitting.

00:01:47.000 So it's gonna get crazy.

00:01:48.000 We got some polls to show you.

00:01:49.000 Joining us today to talk about all of this is the one and only Andrew Klavan.

00:01:54.000 How you doing?

00:01:54.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:56.000 Must I?

00:01:57.000 Yes, I guess I will.

00:01:58.000 I'm Andrew Klavan.

00:01:59.000 I'm the host of The Andrew Klavan Show on The Daily Wire.

00:02:01.000 I'm the author of The Truth and Beauty, which was my latest book, and the author of a million other books, most of them crime novels.

00:02:09.000 And here I am.

00:02:10.000 Awesome.

00:02:11.000 Well, thank you for hanging out good sir.

00:02:12.000 This should be fun.

00:02:13.000 It's a pleasure to be here, actually.

00:02:14.000 Absolutely.

00:02:14.000 Appreciate it.

00:02:15.000 We got Seamus.

00:02:16.000 I'm Seamus Coghlan.

00:02:17.000 I've never written nor even read anything as long as a crime novel.

00:02:20.000 I'm a cartoonist.

00:02:21.000 I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:02:23.000 Every week we upload a new cartoon and we do it on Thursdays.

00:02:26.000 So if you guys want to go and check out the video we uploaded today, I think you'll very much enjoy it.

00:02:30.000 It's about Disney and their proclivity, for whatever reason, for like having groomers working for the organization.

00:02:37.000 Go check it out!

00:02:40.000 It's also very much like how with Katonji Brown Jackson, they were like the first black Supreme Court justice Yes, and then it's like I mean aside from the fact fact that Clarence Thomas is currently there Thurgood Marshall I think like a long time ago.

00:02:51.000 It's constantly first It's the first time and people have joked about this before that there have been about 13 instances of Disney introducing the first gay character in one of their films and I sort of took that and Connected it to what's going on at it a little bit of a twist to it. 0.91

00:03:04.000 I think you guys will enjoy Maybe you should have a little sympathy because they may be caught in a time loop.

00:03:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:09.000 You know, and they're desperately trying to break out.

00:03:10.000 That's how they're signaling to you.

00:03:12.000 Maybe Joe Biden is doing their PR.

00:03:13.000 He's like, first time, man!

00:03:14.000 First time!

00:03:14.000 Never seen a gay guy in a movie, man!

00:03:16.000 I think I can't let it pass that you also do the best Ben Shapiro imitation.

00:03:20.000 Oh, that's, honestly, I'm very flattered.

00:03:22.000 Thank you very much.

00:03:23.000 I do appreciate that.

00:03:23.000 This is coming from somebody.

00:03:24.000 Okay, this is coming from somebody who actually works with Ben Shapiro and knows him on a personal level, alright, folks?

00:03:28.000 You were able to maintain that you weren't Ben Shapiro, but you were Ben Shapiro.

00:03:32.000 I was like a little bit Ben Shapiro, okay?

00:03:33.000 You should hear Ben Shapiro's impression of me, though.

00:03:36.000 I'm Ian Crossland, guys.

00:03:39.000 Looking forward to talking maybe about God and the truth.

00:03:42.000 I like that.

00:03:43.000 The idea of objective truth.

00:03:44.000 I asked you before the show if you thought there was, and you said yes.

00:03:46.000 That's the conversation we often have, because I think that There is no.

00:03:50.000 I think that everything is subjective.

00:03:51.000 Every human, every human experience is subjective through that human, but we'll get into it.

00:03:55.000 Maybe we can get into it later.

00:03:56.000 You just happen to be completely incorrect.

00:03:57.000 Yeah.

00:03:58.000 I love you.

00:03:59.000 And there is no Timcast IRL without me.

00:04:02.000 I have to be here in the corner and I am indeed pushing buttons tonight.

00:04:05.000 So let's get started.

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00:06:08.000 But let's talk about this first story we got from TimCast.com.

00:06:11.000 New Mexico man acquitted of charges related to January 6th.

00:06:15.000 The federal defense contractor is the first person to be found not guilty of all charges filed against him in connection to the capital security breach.

00:06:23.000 Matthew Martin, a federal defense contractor, was acquitted on April 6th following a two-day bench trial.

00:06:29.000 Martin had been charged with entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building, violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.

00:06:43.000 U.S.

00:06:43.000 District Judge Trevor N. McFadden said that the first charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building was a close call, but that there was a reasonable doubt whether Martin knew he was entering a restricted building.

00:06:55.000 McFadden also said the government failed to show evidence of Martin crossing the police line, which mobs of protesters had broken before he had arrived at the Capitol.

00:07:04.000 During his April 5th testimony, Martin said he went with the flow.

00:07:07.000 So here we are.

00:07:08.000 This is fascinating.

00:07:10.000 For the people who tore down the barricades, tore the signs down, attacked cops, well of course they're gonna get convicted.

00:07:16.000 There's video evidence of them attacking people.

00:07:18.000 But we've long maintained that there is reasonable doubt for those, the MAGA memaws they call them, who fumbled and bumbled their way into the building as police fanned them in. 0.95

00:07:27.000 So, uh, can I say I was right?

00:07:29.000 I was right?

00:07:30.000 Yeah, no, you were absolutely correct.

00:07:31.000 I was right!

00:07:32.000 Andrew Klaven agrees.

00:07:33.000 Because I said this back in January.

00:07:35.000 Andrew Klaven, seal of approval.

00:07:36.000 You know, it's very rare that federal cases go to trial because people are so terrified by the federal government because the federal government doesn't mess around.

00:07:44.000 When they put you away for 15 years, you stay away for 15 years.

00:07:47.000 There's no time off for good behavior.

00:07:49.000 So when they come to you and they say, well, we'll give you four years instead, People confess and they plead guilty.

00:07:55.000 But you just don't have to do it, especially if there was, as in this case, there was video of the guy being let in.

00:08:01.000 That's right.

00:08:02.000 And this is the video that we referenced back in January, where you see the door open, and then there's actual audio where you can hear a cop say, I don't agree with it, but I respect it, or something like that.

00:08:13.000 That's a cop.

00:08:14.000 You've got cops taking selfies with protesters.

00:08:17.000 This is the third jury, this is the third trial.

00:08:19.000 There has been one jury trial and two bench trials.

00:08:21.000 The bench trial with Judge McFadden, I believe his name is McFadden, the guy was acquitted on the charges of disorderly or whatever.

00:08:31.000 He was like, just entering isn't disorderly, so acquitted.

00:08:35.000 But you did, you know, climb up an outer wall and you knew you weren't supposed to be in there, so you're getting trespassed.

00:08:40.000 Right.

00:08:40.000 But what's that really going to be?

00:08:42.000 The entire January 6th narrative is in the gutter at this point.

00:08:45.000 You have that disconnect between the Democrats' narrative and what happened.

00:08:50.000 What happened was bad.

00:08:52.000 I don't think you should charge into the Capitol.

00:08:53.000 I don't think you should make our Congress people afraid, except of being unelected.

00:08:59.000 But they've turned it into the Reichstag fire.

00:09:01.000 They've turned it into the biggest emergency that ever hit the country. 0.95

00:09:03.000 And now every Republican is supposed to feel like a criminal, and that's ridiculous. 0.58

00:09:08.000 Let's look, let me pull up the CNN headline real quick. 0.64

00:09:11.000 This is how CNN frames it.

00:09:12.000 Man who said January 6th was magical acquitted in US Capitol riot case.

00:09:17.000 You see, this is why people don't understand what's happening in the world.

00:09:21.000 Because when you see that headline and you're a CNN reader or viewer, you assume this guy is a rioter who was violent.

00:09:28.000 They called it a riot case.

00:09:30.000 He said it was magical, but they don't give you the context in the headline.

00:09:35.000 Right, of course. 0.97

00:09:36.000 Yeah, I mean it's ridiculous.

00:09:38.000 You mentioned earlier the fact that the federal government tends to convict.

00:09:40.000 I think their prosecution rate is something above 95% because like you said people are usually willing to take plea deals and it's not as if they're sitting there messing around looking for reasons to let somebody off.

00:09:50.000 They weren't able to convict this guy because there was reasonable doubt whether he intentionally trespassed and there have been at this point dozens if not hundreds of people who were there who have repeated this narrative that they were waived in by the police.

00:10:00.000 They did not know they weren't supposed to be there.

00:10:02.000 Obviously people who broke in, who legitimately trespassed, who broke down the barriers like you mentioned, Those are criminals, but there are many people who thought that they were allowed to be there based on the conduct of the police and so for the Young Turks to come smear you because you smear my good name smeared the good name besmirched the good name of Sir Timothy cast Over his prediction which turned out to be correct is frankly hilarious.

00:10:26.000 They own themselves You know what gets me really is that the process is the punishment in this situation.

00:10:30.000 Did this guy sit in solitary for a year like a lot of these other people?

00:10:33.000 Probably.

00:10:33.000 So he's in a state of mind where he's like, I'm going to take it to court because I've got nothing left to lose at this point if they're going to leave me in jail for a year without due process.

00:10:42.000 I'm not trying to rain on this because this is great news.

00:10:44.000 This is really good news and it's definitely an indication that a lot more acquittals are coming.

00:10:48.000 Well, here's what I'm curious about.

00:10:49.000 So if we see more acquittals, I wonder which direction that is going to build political momentum.

00:10:54.000 Because on the one hand, it could result in people saying that the entire narrative was nonsensical and revolting against Democrats as a result.

00:11:01.000 Or maybe it could embolden Democrats to say, these people are getting away with an insurrection, even though that's complete nonsense.

00:11:06.000 And the judge was appointed by Donald Trump.

00:11:08.000 Yeah, there is that, but I still think that people have got this exactly right.

00:11:12.000 They know it was bad, they shouldn't have done it, but they also know the Democrats have just played and played and played this card until it's absolutely maxed out.

00:11:21.000 Well, I'm sick of it.

00:11:24.000 I think when November comes along, we have a very good likelihood, a very strong likelihood that Republicans are going to get in.

00:11:30.000 The question is, are Republicans going to do anything?

00:11:33.000 And I'm not entirely convinced.

00:11:34.000 The January 6th committee will be gone, and then the Republican Party will twiddle its thumbs and fall asleep.

00:11:39.000 The Republicans get kicked out of office for not doing what they say they'll do and Democrats get kicked out for doing what they say they'll do.

00:11:45.000 I mean, because because Republicans, if they would actually follow, as Trump did, in fact, if they would actually deliver on their conservative promises, everything gets better.

00:11:53.000 You know, what are some of the promises that you like that you thought should have got followed through on?

00:11:58.000 By whom?

00:11:58.000 just conservatives in general that you've noticed? Well I think for instance

00:12:01.000 immigration reform you know maybe we could stop people from pouring in over 1.00

00:12:05.000 the over the border forever you know I think every country on earth has a

00:12:08.000 border why don't we that's that's always a good one I think cutting back on some

00:12:13.000 of the entitlement that have driven us so far into debt that we're essentially

00:12:17.000 a debtor nation with very little chance of getting climbing our way out 0.99

00:12:21.000 I think that, you know, the kinds of things that are happening in Disneyland, the magical kingdom, which has become even more magical if you happen to be slightly odd.

00:12:31.000 You know, I think those are the kinds of things that a president should address.

00:12:34.000 One of the things I thought was great about Trump was that he fought the culture wars and I think that that's why he got elected and that's why he was where he was.

00:12:41.000 Can confirm.

00:12:42.000 I went to a bunch of the Trump rallies and the young men that I met said political correctness was a huge reason why they were voting for Trump.

00:12:49.000 They felt that Trump's potty mouth was a pullback that would pull everything back to normalcy in terms of our ability to speak.

00:12:57.000 No question. 0.99

00:12:57.000 I mean, it's just no question for 50 years, 60 years, they've been telling people in this country their country stinks, their religion is untrue, they're racist, they're sexist, you know, everything about them is terrible, and their history is terrible. 0.99

00:13:10.000 All the pride that America had for a country that, after all, did defeat both Soviet Communism and Nazism, and was the only republic in the world when it started, was the, you know, it actually So you think it was the military-industrial complex, the liberal economic order, the formation in 1946 that just annihilated?

00:13:25.000 that we had was just absolutely stomped on for 50, 60 years and then they

00:13:29.000 wondered why did they elect Donald Trump? Well they elected Donald Trump because

00:13:32.000 he told these people where to go. So you think it was the military-industrial

00:13:35.000 complex, the the liberal economic order, the formation in 1946 that just just

00:13:39.000 annihilated? That's what I think it is anyway. What do you mean? Well in 1946

00:13:43.000 after World War II they decided we don't want World War again,

00:13:45.000 We're going to set up this liberal economic order and put American military bases, apparently, or British military bases, a lot of them, and then the Americans took them, set up all these military bases.

00:13:52.000 We're like, we're the world police.

00:13:53.000 But it seems like they're using the Federal Reserve to overprint military, military, more bombs, more blow up, waste money, and they destroyed our economy and our will to live.

00:14:02.000 It's not the military that destroys our economy.

00:14:04.000 It is the entitlements that cannot be stopped.

00:14:07.000 You know, you can't vote the entitlements out without destroying them, and once the government gives you something, nobody ever gives it back.

00:14:13.000 So, I view this as putting a Band-Aid on a Band-Aid on a Band-Aid.

00:14:17.000 So, we get a wound in this country of some sort, like a housing crisis, and then we're like, quick, what do we do to heal this wound?

00:14:22.000 We put a Band-Aid on it.

00:14:24.000 Mass spending or welfare programs.

00:14:27.000 And it may be a simple solution to everybody, like, okay, we'll just, you know, we've got an economic crisis, let's give a stimulus to everybody to keep them afloat for now, slapping a Band-Aid on the wound.

00:14:37.000 Then a few weeks later, when the wound starts festering, they say, you better slap another bandage over that.

00:14:41.000 So instead of cleaning it off, taking the bandage off, cleaning the wound, putting a new bandage on, we've just stacked piles and piles of bandages on bandages.

00:14:49.000 I'm a little bit, I see it in a little bit more of a sinister light.

00:14:53.000 Nobody ever gives anybody anything, right?

00:14:55.000 There's no such thing as a free lunch.

00:14:56.000 The word free is actually not English.

00:14:58.000 It doesn't actually refer to anything that exists except maybe the moon and the stars, you know, the best things in life are free.

00:15:04.000 But nothing is free.

00:15:05.000 So when somebody gives you something, you have to ask, what's the price?

00:15:08.000 When somebody gives you, you know, a free lunch, you ask, what are they asking for?

00:15:13.000 Every time they give you something, it costs you your freedom.

00:15:15.000 Oh, sure, sure, sure.

00:15:15.000 But come on, that's not true in every case.

00:15:17.000 I mean, Facebook's free.

00:15:18.000 Here we go.

00:15:20.000 I think, and like you guys were saying, Trump's potty mouth, I think if the technocratic spy state wasn't in effect, the potty mouth may have actually, you know, brought people back to a state of sanity, or at least a state where they could, they could really...

00:15:31.000 I have mixed feelings on the potty mouth.

00:15:32.000 What were you going to say, Seamus?

00:15:33.000 Well, you know, you mentioned that when something's free, someone's actually covertly taking something from you.

00:15:37.000 TimCast.com is not free.

00:15:39.000 So I'm letting you guys know to plug for things that aren't free.

00:15:42.000 Take your money!

00:15:43.000 We'll just take your money. 0.98

00:15:44.000 Look, not, you know, Patreon.com slash FreedomTooth isn't free either.

00:15:47.000 I'm letting you know.

00:15:48.000 I do like how the idea of Facebook being free was so absurd.

00:15:52.000 Everyone laughed at the idea because Facebook is so awful.

00:15:55.000 Oh, that's not why.

00:15:56.000 Did you see that Mark Zuckerberg said his employees endearingly call him the eye of Sauron?

00:16:03.000 He thinks that's endearing.

00:16:05.000 It worries me a little bit, actually.

00:16:07.000 It's amazing.

00:16:08.000 Is he really?

00:16:09.000 There's no way he believes that.

00:16:12.000 That lack of self-awareness.

00:16:14.000 I think he's spying on everybody that works for him, but he thinks it's fine.

00:16:19.000 Yeah, because he thinks he's a nice guy.

00:16:20.000 He would never misuse it.

00:16:22.000 Oh, it's terrifying.

00:16:22.000 All right.

00:16:23.000 Did you ever see Terminator 2?

00:16:24.000 You know, Miles Dyson, the guy's like, well, if I'd known I was going to build the Terminator, I'll stop right now.

00:16:29.000 I got to give this shout out and talk about our good friends over at the Young Turks, because we have this video they posted back on February 8th, and it says, Tim Poole makes the dumbest January 6th argument yet.

00:16:42.000 Oh, this is just, it feels so good to... There's so much to bring up in terms of cultural politics and politics here that this exemplifies.

00:16:51.000 I'm grateful to be a part of the story.

00:16:53.000 For those that aren't familiar, just to go back to our previous segment, in January, I had made the point that at the Capitol, many people were let in the building by the police, that there were no barricades, they'd been torn down and people walked up, cops were fanning them in, doors were being opened for them.

00:17:07.000 How could you charge someone with trespass if they were welcomed into a building?

00:17:10.000 Certainly that makes no sense, right?

00:17:12.000 And so, taking that out of context, some Twitter guy takes a clip of it, the Young Turks, doing no research, run the clip of it while smack-talking me saying I'm wrong and saying really dumb, poor legal arguments like, if there's broken glass on the ground, it's trespassing.

00:17:27.000 I think Jack may have said that where they're like, I'm just going to walk over this broken glass and that means I'm allowed in.

00:17:33.000 And it's like, it doesn't mean you're not allowed in.

00:17:35.000 Broken glass is not a trespassing sign.

00:17:37.000 Like imagine going to a McDonald's and there's a broken window.

00:17:39.000 It's like, I guess I can't come into McDonald's.

00:17:41.000 Someone broke the window.

00:17:43.000 No, that's not how it works.

00:17:45.000 So they run this segment, and I am proud to say now that we have been absolutely vindicated, proven right.

00:17:52.000 Judge issues the first outright acquittal of a defendant charged over the January 6th riot.

00:17:56.000 We did just mention this in a previous segment, but here's the best part.

00:17:59.000 I tweeted how it started, how it's going, with that clip from the Young Turks, with the new article that comes out showing this guy's been acquitted, and I said, hey, Anna, I was right.

00:18:11.000 And their response is... Anna responded on Twitter as if the news didn't come out.

00:18:17.000 She just repeated the exact same false premise on my argument while ignoring the fact that even her false premise... So I said the rioters are going to go to jail, the violent people go to jail.

00:18:28.000 She's claiming that I'm saying the rioters themselves will be acquitted because there's no signs, which is a gross exaggeration of my point.

00:18:34.000 But the guy was acquitted.

00:18:36.000 This is what they do.

00:18:37.000 So I think it's a really great example of what the culture war is.

00:18:43.000 I make an observation based on a legal theory.

00:18:46.000 We'll see what happens.

00:18:47.000 I'm proven right.

00:18:48.000 The Young Turks double down, ignore the facts, and just keep lying.

00:18:51.000 Well, you know, it raises the philosophical question, if you've been insulted by the Young Turks, have you in fact been insulted? 0.93

00:18:59.000 But you know, this is actually, the Young Turks are just the small version of this.

00:19:02.000 This is happening everywhere the other day.

00:19:04.000 Ann Applebaum of the Washington Post, once a fine journalist, she used to be an actually 0.99

00:19:09.000 good writer and journalist.

00:19:11.000 She was approached by a freshman from the University of Chicago who said to her, well,

00:19:16.000 how do you feel now about the fact that the Joe Biden laptop has turned out to be true

00:19:20.000 after it was kicked off Twitter, it was suppressed by the news?

00:19:22.000 And she said, oh, that's a boring story, I don't care about that.

00:19:25.000 So I thought, well, here's a story that really does implicate the President of the United

00:19:28.000 States in influence peddling, and she's bored. 0.96

00:19:31.000 She's bored by that. 0.92

00:19:32.000 She's bored, it's not interesting.

00:19:33.000 They shared bank accounts.

00:19:34.000 Well, we've got more data from the laptop reportedly coming out soon.

00:19:38.000 When she says it was a boring story, she's lying.

00:19:41.000 I know it's boring because it requires glucose to change your mind.

00:19:45.000 Cognitive dissonance requires a lot of energy to override.

00:19:49.000 I don't know if you know this, but even though we know now that the information on the laptop is true and legitimate, it wasn't true back then.

00:19:57.000 I'm sorry you were misinformed about this, but it wasn't true at the time.

00:20:02.000 Think about the historical record, right?

00:20:04.000 So, if you pull up stories from, you know, October 2020, you will learn about Russian disinformation manipulating the United States.

00:20:14.000 The story today now is that the laptop is true.

00:20:18.000 There were opinion pieces, commentary, analysis, subsequent investigations, and this is the track record we get from these establishment crony shill press, be it Young Turks or otherwise.

00:20:30.000 The Russiagate stories.

00:20:31.000 They won awards for those things.

00:20:33.000 based on lies. And now we know it's all fake.

00:20:36.000 Walter Durante won a Pulitzer for covering up the Holodomor. 0.99

00:20:39.000 So here's what I want you to imagine this. You look at a history book and they have a

00:20:45.000 timeline of the Donald Trump years. And it says in 2016, Donald Trump colluded with Russia to do this.

00:20:50.000 In 2017, Donald Trump was investigated for colluding with Russia. And then under the

00:20:55.000 premise that all of those stories are true, which make up the text of this history book,

00:20:59.000 you then get to the year 2019, 2020. And it's like, well, we now know that all of this stuff was fake.

00:21:05.000 So how do we go and rewrite the historical record that they fabricated?

00:21:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:10.000 Well, you know, but just think about the old-fashioned idea of a reporter.

00:21:14.000 Think about the guy with the hat, the snap ring hat, and the press card.

00:21:17.000 I was a reporter.

00:21:18.000 I was a small town newspaper man and you would hang around places just to see if anything

00:21:22.000 suspicious was happening.

00:21:23.000 So if the councilman walked into the sheriff's office, you immediately thought, what's going

00:21:27.000 on there?

00:21:28.000 What is happening here?

00:21:29.000 So here they have a laptop that connects the president to his dishonest, you know, influence 0.85

00:21:33.000 peddling son.

00:21:34.000 It's like, I'm bored.

00:21:35.000 I, you know, what else is on TV?

00:21:37.000 Is that, you know, is Netflix on?

00:21:38.000 Cause I, you know, I don't want to, I'd like to imagine there was a time where the laptop

00:21:44.000 story would come out and every major news organization would be like, guys, guys, guys,

00:21:49.000 We've got evidence of direct corruption involving a president.

00:21:53.000 Instead, they were like, Oh no.

00:21:56.000 How do we lie to protect him?

00:21:57.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 Well, in a weird way, Hunter's off limits.

00:21:59.000 So people were absolutely vicious towards Trump's children.

00:22:02.000 And what they often said is Trump's children are only successful because they had a rich dad.

00:22:06.000 Well, look at Hunter Biden.

00:22:07.000 He had a rich dad and he's very unsuccessful.

00:22:09.000 And I'm not saying the man never dealt with struggle or hardship, but why is it that Trump's kids get their heat held to the fire on everything and Biden's kid is a crackhead and you're not even allowed to discuss it?

00:22:19.000 You look at Don Jr.

00:22:22.000 and he's like a prominent personality and well-adjusted figure and successful businessman.

00:22:26.000 And then he's the bad one.

00:22:28.000 He's the problem.

00:22:29.000 Hunter Biden had to get his teeth replaced because of his crack addiction.

00:22:34.000 Parmesan cheese addiction.

00:22:37.000 He was scooping up parmesan cheese from the carpet.

00:22:40.000 He said that.

00:22:41.000 I feel bad for the guy over there.

00:22:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:43.000 He's had a terrible life.

00:22:44.000 Yeah, he actually has.

00:22:45.000 But my point is more so how the media treats them.

00:22:47.000 That's right.

00:22:48.000 They're like, Don Jr.

00:22:48.000 needs to go to prison.

00:22:49.000 And I'm like, Don Jr.

00:22:50.000 didn't do anything.

00:22:51.000 Hunter Biden did things we can see. 0.98

00:22:53.000 And they're like, oh, shut up. 0.90

00:22:54.000 I know. 0.95

00:22:54.000 I'm going to do the most boring thing in the world and point out a double standard here between the left and the right. 0.95

00:22:59.000 But just imagine Trump's kid with a crack pipe in their mouth. 0.92

00:23:01.000 It would be the end. 0.97

00:23:02.000 That would be it.

00:23:03.000 That would be it.

00:23:04.000 I think Don Jr., he tweeted, if I did half the things that Hunter Biden did, I'd be in prison.

00:23:09.000 Yeah.

00:23:09.000 Well, there's no question about that.

00:23:10.000 You'd be in jail.

00:23:11.000 His dad told him that.

00:23:12.000 And not only would he be in prison, but Donald would be in prison.

00:23:15.000 That's the thing.

00:23:16.000 The connection on this laptop is getting worse and worse.

00:23:19.000 You know, China has a very clever strategy that I think they call, what do they call it, hunting the elites, or elite capture.

00:23:26.000 Elite capture, that's what they call it.

00:23:28.000 They obviously elite capture Joe Biden through his son.

00:23:31.000 Is that illegal?

00:23:32.000 Probably not.

00:23:33.000 But still, I disagree.

00:23:35.000 I think the elite captured Joe Biden through Joe Biden and his son was the intermediary.

00:23:38.000 Well, there you go.

00:23:39.000 Which is why Joe Biden used Air Force Two to fly his son to China for a private equity deal.

00:23:44.000 Hold on.

00:23:45.000 I mean, when he was talking about the big guy, he could have been referring to someone else.

00:23:48.000 It could have been Sonny Corleone.

00:23:52.000 The big guy could be Trump.

00:23:53.000 That's true.

00:23:54.000 We don't know.

00:23:55.000 Have we exhausted all of our resources in investigating this yet?

00:23:58.000 Trump is a big guy.

00:24:00.000 Trump's bigger than Biden than Joe.

00:24:02.000 That proves it.

00:24:03.000 Oh my gosh, you're right.

00:24:06.000 It's funny how we have the grooming story now, OK Groomer, and it's just fascinating.

00:24:13.000 It's almost like the establishment press left is...

00:24:18.000 It's...

00:24:19.000 Cause and effect is so obvious and predictable.

00:24:25.000 You know exactly what they're going to say, how they're going to say it, when they're going to say it.

00:24:28.000 You could write their articles for them before they write it, and then publish them to prove a point, but you'd be talking to nobody.

00:24:34.000 Like I was mentioning with Anne and the Young Turks, even though an article comes out Actually proving my point was correct, they act like it never happened.

00:24:42.000 Just to clarify, you were saying that some of the people that went to the January 6th event were just let in and should be not necessarily charged with trespass, but then they interpreted that as you were talking about the people that were breaking windows and stuff as well.

00:24:54.000 They were lying.

00:24:55.000 Okay, and they're doubling down on that misinterpretation?

00:24:58.000 Misinterpretation.

00:24:59.000 Willful misinformation.

00:25:00.000 Because...

00:25:02.000 Well, I think it's fair to say perhaps that they're making it up because if they actually watched anything I said, they would have known that I've always said that the January 6th rioters should go to prison.

00:25:12.000 Even in the Daily Beast smear piece against me, they quoted me saying the January 6th rioters should be in prison. 0.60

00:25:18.000 So for the Young Turks to pretend like I've never, like I'm saying the opposite is ridiculous.

00:25:21.000 But this is the point.

00:25:23.000 When it comes to the grooming story, when it comes to the Hunter Biden laptop, we talk about double standards all the time.

00:25:28.000 This is one of the reasons why I think it's kind of pointless to give them quotes or even interact with them, because you know exactly what they're going to do. 0.79

00:25:34.000 They'll come out, they'll say, you are all fascists.

00:25:37.000 Then you'll come out and be like, some of these people are groomers, and they'll go, They're making up fake definitions of words now to lie and smear us, and it's like... But it's not even a fake definition.

00:25:46.000 That defines... I mean, if you say you should be able to have private conversations with someone else's kid about sexuality and tell them, don't tell your parents, you're grooming them.

00:25:51.000 That's what that is.

00:25:52.000 And even worse, even worse, on National Review, they're saying, Well, we shouldn't say grooming.

00:25:57.000 It's not technically grooming.

00:25:58.000 You think, like, they're calling a bill, Don't Say Gay, that has nothing to do with not saying gay.

00:26:03.000 Can we not at least fight tough?

00:26:05.000 Can we not at least play the game the way the game is played?

00:26:07.000 I don't want to go dirty, but if they're going to use phrases that are catchy and actually turn people against things, why can't we?

00:26:13.000 This is grooming.

00:26:14.000 You know what?

00:26:15.000 I don't think we should call them the National Review because I cannot believe that that article was reviewed before they published it.

00:26:19.000 That's insane!

00:26:20.000 Or that anybody in the nation is still listening.

00:26:22.000 The funny thing I'm seeing now from a lot of people on the left on Facebook is they're arguing the bill in Florida.

00:26:30.000 Someone posted a meme where it's like, in response to this bill, I'm going to stop talking to kids about traditional marriage and heterosexuality, and I'm not going to use gendered pronouns.

00:26:38.000 And I'm like, you are now arguing that the actual position of the conservatives is the position they don't have I'm confused.

00:26:46.000 Like, you were the ones who created the narrative that it banned people talking about gay people when the conservatives never said that.

00:26:53.000 It was just identity in general.

00:26:56.000 And now, it's like they're mad at themselves.

00:27:00.000 There is no excuse to talk to somebody else's child in kindergarten about their sexuality.

00:27:06.000 There's no excuse.

00:27:07.000 When I was a kid, a cop used to come and visit you in school and say, if anybody does this,

00:27:11.000 call the police.

00:27:12.000 You know, the policeman is your friend.

00:27:13.000 He will come and take this bad guy away.

00:27:15.000 Now they're actually saying that there are people on TV saying, you know, I'm gay and

00:27:19.000 now I can't talk to children about my personal life.

00:27:21.000 You know, how about teach them math?

00:27:24.000 But also, like, am I supposed to cry for that person?

00:27:24.000 How about that?

00:27:26.000 Like, oh no!

00:27:28.000 But it's not even true.

00:27:29.000 You can still talk about your personal life.

00:27:31.000 If they need to talk about personal life, they need a therapist.

00:27:33.000 To these children, right?

00:27:34.000 Yeah.

00:27:35.000 Well, so I do want to jump to another story, but I'm just curious because when it comes to the media and the very obvious predictable nature of the lies and the manipulations, I'm curious your thoughts, Andrew.

00:27:45.000 My attitude's very much been just ignored at this point because the moral universes are so disparate.

00:27:51.000 Like, there's not a single sane, rational human being of cognitive faculties who is

00:27:57.000 going to agree that adults should have sexual conversations with children in secret, but

00:28:02.000 there's the entirety of the democratic establishment lying to maintain that.

00:28:07.000 What do you think the solution is here?

00:28:09.000 What do we do to...

00:28:10.000 I think you do have to speak up for the simple reason that people get afraid.

00:28:13.000 They think that more people agree with them than do.

00:28:17.000 And so, you know, I worked in Hollywood for a long time and I would walk into a meeting and somebody would come over to me and say, I saw you on Hannity last night.

00:28:25.000 They whisper, I saw you on Hannity last night.

00:28:27.000 And I would say, why are you whispering?

00:28:28.000 We're in the right.

00:28:29.000 You know, most people in the country agree with us.

00:28:32.000 And the thing is, they can create an atmosphere of agreement and of being in the majority that simply isn't the case.

00:28:39.000 I mean, look at the fact, look at the fact what happened with Disney.

00:28:41.000 It was this guy, Bob Chapik.

00:28:42.000 He's a conservative.

00:28:43.000 He wanted to take Disney out of the politics.

00:28:47.000 A minority of his employees who are LGBTQ came and yelled at him and he caved.

00:28:52.000 Where was the minority?

00:28:53.000 Where was the majority?

00:28:54.000 Sounds like conservatives have a tendency towards cowardice.

00:28:57.000 I was about to say, he sounds like a conservative.

00:29:00.000 I think humans tend towards cowardice when they're alone, when they think they're alone.

00:29:07.000 That's right, that's right.

00:29:08.000 Big part of this is, like you said, speaking up so people know they're not alone.

00:29:11.000 Yep.

00:29:12.000 I mean, you look at what happened to Papa John.

00:29:14.000 I'm not surprised these CEOs are like, I'll do it.

00:29:16.000 I'll do whatever you say.

00:29:17.000 Yep, absolutely.

00:29:18.000 And that's the other thing.

00:29:19.000 They're not going to get sued by, you know, angry conservatives.

00:29:23.000 Papa John did nothing wrong.

00:29:27.000 Yeah, that's correct.

00:29:27.000 statement. Yeah, that's correct. He was he was uh they'll they'll lie and they'll they'll

00:29:32.000 cheat and they'll steal and they'll manipulate but Papa John was on a phone call and he complained

00:29:36.000 about racism. Right. He used the word to he was a racial slur to complain about the slur

00:29:41.000 and how someone else had used it and no one cared. And we're in a situation now.

00:29:44.000 And they've destroyed his life, his career over it.

00:29:46.000 YouTube censorship laws is like, if you reference a book from the past that has a word in it that's now considered racist, you're essentially, the algorithm treats that as if you're the ones making the racist comment.

00:29:57.000 And that's dangerous for society, for free speech.

00:30:01.000 I don't, you know, same thing happened to John.

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:04.000 And here's another thing conservatives do.

00:30:05.000 They sit and defend YouTube and Facebook saying, well, they're independent companies so they can do whatever they want.

00:30:12.000 You don't want the government, you know, making rules about them.

00:30:14.000 Well, yeah, I do.

00:30:15.000 No, actually I do.

00:30:16.000 The government is there.

00:30:17.000 It was instituted among men to protect our God-given rights.

00:30:21.000 The First Amendment protects those rights from the government, but the government actually, its job is to protect our free speech rights.

00:30:27.000 When you have things like Google, which is controlling 90% of the information flow, Amazon, which is selling 90% of the new books, They can be regulated.

00:30:34.000 They can be essentially regulated to make sure that everybody gets to speak.

00:30:37.000 Let's let's you on it. Oh, yeah, I just want to add this.

00:30:40.000 It's kind of hilarious We see this a lot with conservatives basically just

00:30:43.000 accepting the left-wing framing So what lefties will say is you believe in free market

00:30:47.000 capitalism?

00:30:47.000 Doesn't that mean you think any big business should be able to do whatever they want to at any time and conservatives

00:30:51.000 I guess you're I guess I do believe that sir And then they go off and they fail to achieve anything

00:30:51.000 go?

00:30:56.000 whenever they elect their leaders But you look at the left and they've been sitting there for

00:31:01.000 years going. Oh, no, you know, it's a private business They can do whatever they want. And then as soon as Elon

00:31:04.000 Musk buys a significant share of Twitter my goodness we can't do these people are too powerful

00:31:09.000 We can't allow them to influence the public discourse with their money.

00:31:11.000 Let's talk about the true nature of some of these organizations.

00:31:13.000 We have this story from TimCast.com.

00:31:15.000 Black Lives Matter purchased $5.8 million mansion from friend who paid $3.1 million days earlier.

00:31:22.000 Patrice Cullors described criticism of the purchase as racist and sexist in an Instagram post.

00:31:28.000 According to a New York Magazine report, the National Black Lives Matter group purchased a $6 million mansion in L.A.

00:31:34.000 with donor funds in October 2020.

00:31:36.000 BLM took measures to keep the purchase a secret.

00:31:39.000 On Wednesday, cullers responded to questions over the cash purchase of the Studio City mansion, describing them as racist and sexist.

00:31:46.000 She said that the author had a proven and very public bias against me and other black leaders.

00:31:51.000 The expansive estate was purchased by Diane Paschal, the financial manager for the LLC Janaya & Patrice Consulting.

00:31:59.000 The New York Post reported the property was purchased from televangelists Sean and Sherry Boltz on October 21st, 2020 for $3.1 million.

00:32:09.000 LA County property assessment records consulted by the post show the value of the two parcels combined.

00:32:14.000 It's one one house with two buildings at 3.3 million on July 6 2020 three months before Pascal's purchase The value nearly doubled after the purchase of the property on January 24th, 2021.

00:32:27.000 The assessment for the two parcels shot up to 5.8.

00:32:30.000 Pascal told the Post he paid the asking price without elaborating further.

00:32:35.000 Within a week of the purchase, ownership was transferred to an LLC in Delaware named after the property's address public records show.

00:32:42.000 Now, I don't know exactly if this proves anything definitively, but here's what it sounds like at the very least.

00:32:50.000 There were televangelists who had a $3.3 million property.

00:32:53.000 They listed it for sale.

00:32:54.000 This guy buys it for the asking price, which Boltz's, it was, what's the guy's name?

00:33:01.000 I want to make sure I get, Sean Boltz said was 3.1 million.

00:33:05.000 About a week later, the BLM nonprofit bought it for 5.8.

00:33:10.000 Where did that $2.7 million go?

00:33:13.000 It seems like, just seems like, seems.

00:33:17.000 Like it went to fighting racism and sexism.

00:33:21.000 Pulled a shady deal to give 2.7 million to launder it out of a non-profit into private hands.

00:33:29.000 So it is now obfuscated and used for who knows what.

00:33:31.000 I was waiting for that launder word because that's what it seems like.

00:33:35.000 It does seem like.

00:33:36.000 It sounds like it's just a hint of, you know, I'm going to go all the way on this.

00:33:40.000 First of all, this BLM is a con game all the way down. 0.98

00:33:44.000 It is a con game all the way down.

00:33:46.000 They tore this country apart over the death of a fentanyl addict who resisted arrest.

00:33:52.000 The policing was bad in that story, but they tore the country apart. 0.98

00:33:55.000 The police don't kill black people.

00:33:56.000 The police are not prejudiced against black people. 1.00

00:33:59.000 Black people commit an inordinate amount, let me put it another way, an inordinate amount of the crime, violent crime that is committed, is committed by people who are black. 1.00

00:34:09.000 50% of murders. 1.00

00:34:09.000 I think there's a better way to put it. 1.00

00:34:11.000 I think it's poor people. 0.71

00:34:14.000 And a lot of black neighborhoods tend to be impoverished. 0.71

00:34:18.000 Maybe, maybe. 0.97

00:34:19.000 But the facts are the facts. 0.90

00:34:21.000 If 50% of the country... 7% of the country are black males.

00:34:26.000 It's not that 7% of the country are committing 50% of the murders because it's a small number. 0.96

00:34:30.000 The majority of black people, of course, are not murderers at all. 0.99

00:34:33.000 It's a small number of bad guys who are black who are committing 50% of the crime. 1.00

00:34:37.000 That puts police in a certain position. 0.99

00:34:39.000 That means you are statistically more suspicious when you go into a neighborhood and you're black. 1.00

00:34:44.000 And it's very insulting and upsetting for a stand-up guy who's black to get stopped by the police for nothing. 0.87

00:34:51.000 But it's also upsetting for a stand-up cop Who's also in the majority to be accused of being?

00:34:58.000 Racist because there was a bad cop so so all I'm saying is this is a con game from the beginning their Open plan in the on their website until they took it down was a Maoist plan to introduce violently introduce socialism and destroy the American family and destroy as they call it cisgender Sexuality and they did it through riots.

00:35:17.000 It's a con game And specifically on their website, targeting the family, disrupting the nuclear family. 0.74

00:35:22.000 But I would love to actually have a deeper moral discussion, because I think we often don't go through it.

00:35:30.000 I mentioned poverty, and you mentioned race, but I don't think you're implying that based on race, they're committing more crime.

00:35:37.000 I don't imply that.

00:35:38.000 I don't think that's true at all.

00:35:39.000 I think the left thinks it's true.

00:35:40.000 I think that's why they want to get rid of bail, and they want to get rid of policing, because literally the left does not think black people Can you rise above?

00:35:49.000 And I thoroughly believe they can.

00:35:51.000 So the issue I see, you know, having grown up in Chicago, having lived in New York, is that I agree.

00:35:56.000 I think the stats are the stats that come from the FBI.

00:35:59.000 I think it's tied to poverty.

00:36:01.000 And then there's the issue of historical wealth and systemic racism.

00:36:05.000 Now, often the right says, you know, there isn't systemic racism, or we recently saw with Jon Stewart and Andrew Sullivan.

00:36:11.000 Sullivan said, what systems?

00:36:12.000 What systems?

00:36:13.000 Jon had a terrible argument.

00:36:15.000 I think Andrew performed poorly.

00:36:17.000 Did you see that segment they did?

00:36:18.000 And so I would love to get your thoughts on this.

00:36:21.000 You know, the way I see it is, crime is tied to poverty.

00:36:25.000 And I think what we end up seeing with, like, FBI crime stats, it actually generates racist beliefs.

00:36:30.000 That some people believe race is the component that causes the crime.

00:36:34.000 I think poverty is the component, and I think there are elements of history in the United States going back to, say, the 80s.

00:36:39.000 See, I would say culture.

00:36:41.000 If poverty caused crime, Wall Street would be an honest place.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, but what poverty does is it limits the kind of crime you could commit.

00:36:51.000 The guy who holds you up in an alley would happily write a check and steal money from a company without risking his life.

00:36:58.000 But he doesn't have that option.

00:36:59.000 Is it violent crime?

00:37:00.000 Violent crime, yeah.

00:37:02.000 But people are sinful, they're broken, they're criminal, and that is going to come out everywhere. 0.98

00:37:07.000 The culture, black culture, has been utterly destroyed and it was destroyed by Great Society programs by the left. 0.98

00:37:13.000 Before the Great Society, before Lyndon Johnson's Great Society, black people were moving into the middle class faster than they were afterward.

00:37:22.000 They were warned, the Democrats were warned by a Democrat, by their own guy, that these programs would foster single-parent homes and destroy the black family.

00:37:32.000 It used to be that 25% of Black children were born out of wedlock.

00:37:37.000 Now it's 75%.

00:37:38.000 That's more than when Democrats were actually selling their slaves because all the slave owners were Democrats too.

00:37:44.000 They were selling their slaves down the river to purposely break up the family.

00:37:48.000 It's worse now. 0.66

00:37:49.000 They finally broke up the black family. 0.99

00:37:51.000 When you go into a prison, A Democrat will tell you, oh look, they're all black and Hispanic, therefore it must be black. 1.00

00:37:57.000 They're all fatherless. 0.99

00:37:59.000 You go down that prison cell, you are looking at one fatherless child after another.

00:37:59.000 Every single one.

00:38:04.000 It's culture.

00:38:05.000 And people are poor and honest.

00:38:08.000 Most black people who are poor are also honest.

00:38:12.000 You know, they're trying to build jobs, they're trying to build a life and all this.

00:38:15.000 But when you have no father, when you have broken homes, when each guy has three different baby mamas and all this stuff, you are going to have more crime.

00:38:22.000 And that's what's happened.

00:38:23.000 This has only happened since the 60s.

00:38:26.000 You know, Jason Reilly, one of the much better writers about black problems in America, had a book and it was called Please Stop Helping Us. 1.00

00:38:34.000 And that's what I think the problem is.

00:38:36.000 It makes me wonder about the Democrats' position before civil rights and how their position after civil rights still perpetuates serious problems in the black community.

00:38:45.000 Well, right, because, I mean, the Martin Luther King idea that you should be judged by the content of your character, not the color of your skin, has gone out the window.

00:38:52.000 I want to point something out.

00:38:53.000 You saw in California, they were trying to repeal the civil rights provision from their constitution.

00:38:58.000 Do you remember this?

00:38:59.000 Because of the fact that it kept them from doing affirmative action?

00:39:02.000 Right.

00:39:03.000 And so I had a conversation with a friend who is woke and I asked, do you know the demographics of California?

00:39:10.000 Yeah, it's overwhelmingly white.

00:39:11.000 I think it's like 70% white.

00:39:13.000 And I said, and do you believe that there are towns in California that are 90, 99% white?

00:39:17.000 Well, yes, of course, of course there are.

00:39:20.000 Do you think those towns, when this law passes, or when you repeal the civil rights provision, do you think they're now all of a sudden going to have an epiphany and recognize that they should treat everyone equally?

00:39:31.000 Or do you think that those people, because by virtue of being white they're racist, will be racist towards black people with impunity because you've repealed the protections?

00:39:39.000 Good question.

00:39:43.000 But my point there, I'm sorry, just is stop helping people, right?

00:39:47.000 That's the point.

00:39:47.000 They say, we're going to help you with these things, and they take away a provision that was fought long and hard for, civil rights.

00:39:55.000 And look at the way Democrats, the left, let's say, talk about black people.

00:39:58.000 They say, well, we want more black people in school, in college, so we've got to lower the standards.

00:40:03.000 I think, really? 0.98

00:40:04.000 How about raising the educational level of the crappy schools in their neighborhoods?

00:40:08.000 What would that be like?

00:40:09.000 Or giving them school choice.

00:40:11.000 So they can decide where to send their kids to instead of supporting failing public schools.

00:40:14.000 And Obama just gutted that, yes.

00:40:15.000 And the Democrats continually gut that.

00:40:16.000 But this is the problem.

00:40:17.000 You know, when it comes to... We have a lot of problems.

00:40:20.000 I'll give you my perspective from Chicago.

00:40:22.000 Racial segregation is the norm in Chicago.

00:40:25.000 Mostly by choice, but still the remnants of blockbusting and redlining. 0.96

00:40:29.000 So, redlining is when they said, you know, that the real estate companies or whatever, they would draw out areas where they're like, we'll only move certain people of certain races, you know, black people in these areas near the redline.

00:40:38.000 And so you end up with enclaves.

00:40:41.000 There's actually, where I grew up, 47th Street.

00:40:44.000 47 South.

00:40:45.000 When you cross it to the North, it becomes an entirely black community. 1.00

00:40:48.000 To the South, it's fairly mixed.

00:40:49.000 A lot of Polish immigrants.

00:40:51.000 And what happens is the remnants of those policies result in people wanting to move into areas where there's people of their own community.

00:40:59.000 So it keeps segregation fairly entrenched.

00:41:01.000 But then you also have laws that were passed that seemingly do the same thing.

00:41:04.000 I've talked about how They had Latino elotes carts, the corn with the mayo and stuff, and they wouldn't let them come to our neighborhood. 1.00

00:41:11.000 They passed a law or whatever banning them from crossing one street.

00:41:15.000 Just so happens that one street, once you cross it, all the ads are in Spanish.

00:41:18.000 So I think you've got, in Chicago, a very serious Democrat problem.

00:41:23.000 I personally think that they thrive on racism.

00:41:26.000 I absolutely agree.

00:41:27.000 I totally agree.

00:41:28.000 They make it worse because they can weaponize it to win elections.

00:41:32.000 You end up with Chicago being run by Democrats for what now, a hundred years?

00:41:36.000 How many improvements?

00:41:38.000 It's only gotten worse.

00:41:39.000 It's only gotten worse.

00:41:40.000 But you know what?

00:41:42.000 If I may just, people like to gather with their own.

00:41:47.000 This country, we forget what a revolutionary experiment this country is.

00:41:51.000 What Andrew Sullivan said to John Stewart was exactly right.

00:41:54.000 I lived out of this country for seven years.

00:41:56.000 This is the least racist country on earth.

00:41:58.000 That doesn't mean it's not racist, that doesn't mean there aren't racists, that doesn't mean there aren't systems in place that can be reformed.

00:42:05.000 But this is the only country in the world, since Rome, since the Roman Empire, where we say, if you come over, you are an American.

00:42:13.000 You come here, you're an American.

00:42:14.000 Doesn't matter what you look like, doesn't matter where you come from.

00:42:16.000 If you look at who is most successful in America, I think it's Indian Americans.

00:42:21.000 Certainly Chinese Americans are successful.

00:42:23.000 So it's not color, it's not skin color that's keeping people down.

00:42:27.000 This country is amazing in its ethnic diversity, and when you leave places like LA and Chicago that are so largely segregated, like I'm living in a place now where there are plenty of middle-class black people, the couples are all mixed and all this stuff, and you think like, yeah, this is what America does.

00:42:42.000 It has always done it.

00:42:43.000 There's a special problem with black people, which is that everybody else came here to escape the oppression.

00:42:50.000 They alone were oppressed here and that is a huge difference.

00:42:53.000 It takes a certain amount of grace to forgive a country for doing that to you.

00:42:57.000 I think they're going to have to exercise that grace because it's the only thing that's going to free them from anger in the past.

00:43:02.000 But it's a tough thing to ask for.

00:43:03.000 I think the solution is simple and a lot of these woke people don't want to accept it.

00:43:06.000 If we've already passed laws, we've outlawed blockbusting and redlining and other racist, overtly racist policies, then the solution at this point becomes class-based.

00:43:16.000 If the left believes that the black community is disproportionately affected by historical racism, and they're impoverished because of it, lack of generational wealth, then instead of making race in the law, you just say, we're going to provide tax benefits, tax credits to certain families at certain levels, which we do.

00:43:33.000 And then you will disproportionately benefit black families.

00:43:36.000 You've got to talk about the culture too.

00:43:39.000 This is the thing that gets me about conservatives here.

00:43:41.000 This bothers me about conservatives.

00:43:43.000 Everybody knows in America, and this is still true to this day, if you get married before you have children, if you go to high school, if you graduate high school and then get married and then have children, you probably won't be poor.

00:43:53.000 That's just the stats.

00:43:56.000 However, if you grow up without a dad, if your mom is addicted to drugs, it's a little harder to do that.

00:44:02.000 This is the thing the conservatives forget about.

00:44:04.000 It may be a little tougher.

00:44:06.000 It's easier to do that when you grow up in the suburbs and you've seen it done. 0.99

00:44:09.000 White kids listen to rap and hip-hop, which I'm sorry, I think is garbage, but white kids listen to it ironically. 0.99

00:44:17.000 Black kids listen to it and it actually affects the way they live and their culture. 1.00

00:44:20.000 White kids like rap, dude. 0.99

00:44:22.000 No, they like it, but they listen to it ironically.

00:44:24.000 They don't think, oh, yes, they do, because they go home and they see, oh, my mom and dad like each other.

00:44:29.000 They're not beating up hoes. 1.00

00:44:30.000 But there's white people in these neighborhoods.

00:44:33.000 I grew up in the south side of Chicago.

00:44:34.000 Everyone listened to rap.

00:44:35.000 I understand, but we're talking about... Little white kids listen to Master P. I understand that, but we're talking about... They weren't coming home to good moms. 0.80

00:44:40.000 Like, my friend's mom was a heroin addict.

00:44:42.000 I understand.

00:44:43.000 But again, we're talking about generality and statistics, right?

00:44:46.000 We're not talking about the people who do that.

00:44:48.000 We're saying there is this problem of crime in black communities that it's not in white. 0.98

00:44:51.000 I think you're talking about class, actually, because you're talking about South Side Chicago, and it's the same as what you're talking about in the black community.

00:44:57.000 So maybe it's just a it's a community issue.

00:45:00.000 I think the skin color is a false flag that the consciousness of these people that are like the great-grandchildren of slaves or great-grandchildren are still poor and so they're doing crime and then because you see their skin color you're like well it's the black skin color that's involved. 0.92

00:45:14.000 I agree with that.

00:45:15.000 But at the same time, you have these left-wing activists who make it all about the skin color, and as a result of that, they forward policies that actually do end up keeping the group down as a whole.

00:45:24.000 I would hang out, like, I lived in Atlanta.

00:45:25.000 It was real multicultural.

00:45:27.000 I lived on Normal Avenue, you know, with a Mexican community, and I would think words to people instead of speak, because I didn't speak the language, and I could integrate really nicely.

00:45:34.000 And I understand what you're saying, that there's a black community.

00:45:38.000 Sometimes I push back on this because I want to believe that we're all one community as a species, but it's a lot of hugging.

00:45:44.000 Cooking home home meal made meals a lot of calling your mom on the phone like that's not in the white It wasn't really part of my community growing up.

00:45:51.000 I mean my mom wanted us to have dinner together, but it wasn't that like Hugging love that I sensed in that community.

00:45:57.000 Mm-hmm.

00:45:58.000 Um, so maybe I can see that a lot of these problems exist for instance in what they now call hillbilly communities and And so, because it's the same thing, it's the same broken culture, and it's the same poverty, except they're white. 0.99

00:46:11.000 So, it's definitely not skin color, it's definitely not about skin color, but it is about cultures that do tend to accrue in groups of people, right?

00:46:18.000 So, you know, if I took 100 people and put them in a space capsule, they would instantly become a new race. 1.00

00:46:24.000 Right?

00:46:25.000 Because they'd sleep with each other, and their children would be related, and whatever happened to them would affect them.

00:46:30.000 So it is culture, but because people tend to gather together with their kind, and sometimes, as you say, are forced to gather together with their kind, those cultures are going to look like a certain way.

00:46:39.000 Let's clarify that music point.

00:46:41.000 You're specifically referring to, like, the gangsta culture music, not rap as music.

00:46:47.000 No, I hate it as music, but still, that's my personal opinion.

00:46:51.000 Man, I don't understand that.

00:46:52.000 I think rap's great.

00:46:53.000 It's not music, okay folks?

00:46:57.000 It's not even music, alright?

00:46:59.000 Don't even come at me with that.

00:47:01.000 This is like, I feel like I'm home.

00:47:04.000 When I walk down the street with my boombox, I'm playing classical music.

00:47:07.000 Have you heard Handlebars by Flowbots?

00:47:10.000 No, and I'm not going to.

00:47:11.000 You're gonna love it.

00:47:14.000 It's basically telling the story of someone growing up and then eventually becoming a despot.

00:47:19.000 You know, I was in an Uber, going and coming, one direction being driven by a guy, one by a girl.

00:47:27.000 Both ways they were playing on the radio the same song, right?

00:47:30.000 The same, I don't know if it's hip-hop or rap, whatever it was. 0.97

00:47:34.000 And the story was about a woman being forced to perform fellatio while they laughed at her. 0.97

00:47:40.000 And I just wanted to say, like, you know, this is degrading. 0.98

00:47:43.000 It's degrading to listen to.

00:47:45.000 That's not indicative of rap, that's indicative of a certain kind of music.

00:47:49.000 Gangster rap?

00:47:50.000 It's indicative of a certain artist themselves, you know what I mean?

00:47:53.000 But if you have a... Like look at Madonna, you know, I'm on my knees praying or whatever.

00:47:57.000 Yeah, but if you have a... All I'm saying is if you're listening to that song and you have a mom and dad who treat each other nicely, It doesn't mean that much.

00:48:03.000 It's ironic.

00:48:05.000 It's like me watching a gangster movie.

00:48:07.000 I love gangster movies.

00:48:08.000 I'm never going to go out and kneecap somebody, you know?

00:48:10.000 But if you are growing up in a dysfunctional house or dysfunctional culture or dysfunctional neighborhood and you're listening to that, it may well become your standard for how you treat women.

00:48:19.000 I think, you know, from where I grew up, the neighborhood I was in was very multiracial and that was a lot of the music everyone listened to.

00:48:27.000 So people weren't going home to a mom and dad who were like, you know, dancing on date night.

00:48:31.000 They were going home to broken homes.

00:48:32.000 So how were the outcomes?

00:48:35.000 I mean, I've had a couple friends of mine who are white die of heroin overdoses.

00:48:39.000 They almost all were in gangs and they were white.

00:48:41.000 They're all still very poor and their lives are... Some people have found middle class living. 0.80

00:48:48.000 Definitely cultural issues for sure.

00:48:50.000 I think we definitely agree on that one.

00:48:52.000 My whole thing is just like... 0.84

00:48:55.000 Rap music is not all, you know, just talking about beating women and doing awful things and shooting people up.

00:49:02.000 Like, there's rap music that's very, like, thoughtful, thought-provoking and well-made, for instance.

00:49:06.000 This is the only subject on which I'm probably more conservative than Ben, so I probably shouldn't get into this.

00:49:13.000 I think you made a great point about the brainwashing power of media.

00:49:16.000 It's massive.

00:49:17.000 And we're on a new environment, a new horizon.

00:49:21.000 And it interacts with culture, because again, I can play a violent video game, it's not going to mean a thing to me, but if you're playing it for 12 hours a day and nobody's taking care of you, it actually does mean a thing.

00:49:30.000 But just to clarify, when you're referring to rap, are you referring to the content of the songs?

00:49:35.000 Well, I also think the music is simplistic, but I think rock music is simplistic too, so I'm not the right person to talk to.

00:49:43.000 But I do think the degraded lyrics are a problem.

00:49:47.000 So that's just an issue of particular artists.

00:49:49.000 Like, I mean, there's rock music that's also simplistic trash, too, you know, with bad lyrics.

00:49:53.000 I agree.

00:49:56.000 I haven't liked a song since, like, 1500s.

00:49:57.000 You know, when it comes to hip-hop, I like melody.

00:50:00.000 It's melody, vocal melody.

00:50:01.000 That's what I'm missing with hip-hop.

00:50:02.000 I don't ever get into it, really.

00:50:03.000 You know, I have to tell you, this is absolutely... My father was a fairly famous New York DJ, and he played what was called then middle-of-the-road music, which is now called the American songbook.

00:50:11.000 So as a little kid, I grew up listening to Frank Sinatra and Cole Porter, Gershwin, and all this stuff.

00:50:16.000 One day, my father, who knew music really well, came home and said, this new thing has come out.

00:50:20.000 It's amazing.

00:50:21.000 This band out of Britain called The Beatles.

00:50:24.000 And he played it for me.

00:50:25.000 And I was like, what?

00:50:26.000 Eight years old.

00:50:27.000 And I said, are you kidding me?

00:50:29.000 She loves you?

00:50:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:50:31.000 You're going to trade Cole Porter for that?

00:50:33.000 And he said, no, no.

00:50:34.000 This is the new thing.

00:50:35.000 I'm talking to like a 50-year-old man.

00:50:37.000 So I just stayed where I was.

00:50:39.000 I went through the entire 60s listening to Sinatra.

00:50:42.000 I gotta tell you, I agree.

00:50:43.000 I listen to music on the radio sometimes, like, well now with streaming services, autoplay, and I'm just like, this song has no meaning behind it at all.

00:50:52.000 It's just, but you know, take a look at Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit.

00:50:57.000 This song is mostly gibberish.

00:51:01.000 I find a lot of rock, I found even a lot of, I mean, I actually kind of like the Beatles, but I found a lot of their songs incomprehensible.

00:51:07.000 I've got two songs to show you.

00:51:08.000 Have you taken LSD?

00:51:10.000 That'll help.

00:51:11.000 I've got two songs for you.

00:51:13.000 We'll show you one's rap, one's not.

00:51:15.000 We'll show you after the show.

00:51:16.000 All right.

00:51:17.000 And it is mandatory.

00:51:20.000 Now I'm sorry I came.

00:51:21.000 And you have to watch Star Trek.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, we already did that to Michael Malice.

00:51:25.000 He is absolutely required.

00:51:26.000 I love Star Trek.

00:51:28.000 Michael Malice didn't like it.

00:51:29.000 Sometimes in hip-hop, when they're talking like this, you hear the melody and the tone.

00:51:33.000 You can kind of derive a melody out of that.

00:51:35.000 The voice goes up and down when they're making their sound.

00:51:39.000 Do you like Charlie Daniels' band?

00:51:40.000 Yeah.

00:51:42.000 Devil went down to Georgia.

00:51:43.000 Best songs ever.

00:51:44.000 I love that song.

00:51:45.000 I saw a funny tweet.

00:51:46.000 It said, when I was little, I thought that the devil and his demon band sounded better than, you know, Johnny, and I felt bad about it.

00:51:53.000 And I'm like, but anyone who objectively listens to that song knows that the demon band section of the song does sound way better.

00:52:00.000 The person who started the Salvation Army, that's what he said.

00:52:03.000 Why should the devil get all the best tunes?

00:52:05.000 That was one of the great lines.

00:52:06.000 That song's so good.

00:52:07.000 I love that song.

00:52:08.000 Definitely down in Georgia.

00:52:09.000 I mean, I love the future.

00:52:10.000 I'm a joke where it's like, wouldn't a solid gold fiddle weigh... Be heavy and sound crummy?

00:52:15.000 And sound lousy.

00:52:18.000 Let's talk about this story, too.

00:52:20.000 I want to mention one thing really quickly about this story, because we strayed from it, but I just wanted to make a quick point.

00:52:25.000 I think it is poetically beautiful that the house was purchased from televangelists because BLM, they are the exact same thing. 0.76

00:52:32.000 It is a modern iteration.

00:52:34.000 They're the holy people who everyone knows are grifters and hacks and every normal person rolls their eyes at, but for some reason have esteem and legitimacy because they claim to be fighting for a good cause.

00:52:44.000 Let me, let me pull up the story because I think regular people are waking up.

00:52:48.000 The narrative is breaking.

00:52:50.000 Wow.

00:52:50.000 Pennsylvania Republicans increase voter registration, shrinking gap in predominantly Democrat state.

00:52:51.000 Wow.

00:52:56.000 For every Republican voter who has registered as a Democrat, four former Democrats have

00:53:02.000 become Republicans.

00:53:04.000 Four times as many switching the other direction.

00:53:07.000 I always give a shout out to Scott Pressler.

00:53:09.000 Are you familiar with Scott Pressler?

00:53:10.000 Not really.

00:53:11.000 The persistence on Twitter.

00:53:12.000 This guy's been going out and registering people to vote.

00:53:13.000 Oh, the persistence, yes.

00:53:14.000 All over the place.

00:53:15.000 He was cleaning up cities.

00:53:16.000 Now, this is a guy who gets, you know, he does the work.

00:53:20.000 And partly due to his work, and truth be told, there's many other activists who are working towards voter registration as well, we're now starting to see the tides shift.

00:53:28.000 I don't think the Republican Party will be the salvation of anybody unless people vote in the primaries, and they do kind of what we're seeing up in New Hampshire with the Free State Project.

00:53:37.000 You see that?

00:53:38.000 Getting a bunch of, you know, populist, America-first, libertarian-minded people to run.

00:53:42.000 And then we're going to see some positive changes.

00:53:44.000 But this is massive.

00:53:45.000 And again, it's indicative of people saying, we've had enough.

00:53:48.000 The economy's in the gutter.

00:53:49.000 We don't like Joe Biden.

00:53:51.000 It's been a year and already we're seeing this massive shift.

00:53:54.000 And it's also people snapping out of the media narrative.

00:53:57.000 I want to show you one thing before we all start diving into this.

00:53:59.000 Take a look at this from the generic congressional vote.

00:54:03.000 2022.

00:54:04.000 Republicans have a lead of 3.6 points.

00:54:07.000 So we're still a bit out.

00:54:10.000 Take a look at 2020.

00:54:11.000 The Democrats had the lead in the generic congressional polling aggregate the entire time, ending with a 6.8 lead.

00:54:20.000 And Republicans still made powerful gains, especially in Democrat strongholds.

00:54:25.000 What are we going to see in November?

00:54:27.000 This November is going to be a wipeout, I think.

00:54:29.000 Unless The only thing that could stop it and it's not going to happen is Joe Biden basically saying, uh, well, you know, I think the environment matters, but the new green deal is finished.

00:54:39.000 You know, if he actually turns against the left, because remember, like Obama, Biden ran as a centrist.

00:54:43.000 That was the whole point of Joe Biden.

00:54:46.000 And you know, one thing people forget about Obama, he was a very popular guy, obviously a very charismatic and kind of likable guy and, and people liked him.

00:54:54.000 Every Democrat except him was voted out of office during his term of office, right?

00:54:58.000 There was like two Democrats still working.

00:55:00.000 The rest of them were, you know, at a malt shop somewhere.

00:55:02.000 So people do not like these programs.

00:55:05.000 But you saw the State of the Union with Biden, right?

00:55:07.000 It was sort of the, we're still hoping to do things of the Union.

00:55:11.000 Yes.

00:55:11.000 What's the State of the Union?

00:55:14.000 Campaign speech.

00:55:16.000 He talks about border security.

00:55:18.000 He says, I'm a capitalist.

00:55:20.000 He said we need to secure the border. 0.99

00:55:23.000 People switching parties is proof that people are not stupid. 0.99

00:55:25.000 cure the border? He's he's he's he's trying to play ball science or two. 1.00

00:55:29.000 So we're gonna have chips in the field of dreams. I mean, how stupid does he 1.00

00:55:33.000 think? Well, I guess I guess we don't answer itself. People switching 1.00

00:55:38.000 parties is proof that people are not stupid. They're waking up and they 0.99

00:55:42.000 realize Joe Biden is spitting in their faces. I agree.

00:55:46.000 And I don't even know.

00:55:48.000 Is Joe Biden running the country?

00:55:49.000 I have no idea.

00:55:50.000 But whoever it is, I mean, really, the AOC, Bernie Sanders, wing of the party is completely in control.

00:55:57.000 They believe, as AOC just said on the air, she said, we've got to be more left wing because, you know.

00:56:04.000 Let him.

00:56:05.000 That's the way I feel, too.

00:56:06.000 Yeah, go for it.

00:56:06.000 I think it's the bankers that are controlling the country.

00:56:08.000 I saw an Andrew Jackson quote from 1830 where he called the bankers a den of vipers.

00:56:13.000 And then he was tempted.

00:56:14.000 They tried to kill him. 0.62

00:56:16.000 Somebody shot him.

00:56:17.000 And he broke up the central bank.

00:56:19.000 I agree to a certain degree, right?

00:56:20.000 Obviously, the Federal Reserve, you know, we all have our problems with.

00:56:22.000 But I think what happened to the Democrats is they saw AOC and the rise of the progressives, and they thought, we can wield this power.

00:56:29.000 But little did they realize it was like the one ring and they would not be able to.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:56:33.000 Well, Biden has always followed the drift of his party.

00:56:36.000 During Clinton, he was kind of conservative.

00:56:39.000 I mean, he wrote the anti-crime bill that everybody's complaining about.

00:56:43.000 You know, so he always has followed the drift of his party.

00:56:47.000 They call it leading from behind. 1.00

00:56:48.000 I mean, it's leading from your ass, basically. 1.00

00:56:50.000 But I mean, he has always followed where the power in his party is. 0.99

00:56:54.000 And right now, the energy, the power in his party is from on the left, but not the majority.

00:56:58.000 I mean, he follows the party so closely, like he literally steals their backstories when he talks about it.

00:57:03.000 He's like, why am I the first Biden to not work in a coal mine, man?

00:57:07.000 The first Biden?

00:57:08.000 Yeah.

00:57:08.000 Well, you do got to give Joe Biden credit for one thing.

00:57:11.000 He's brought a few things to the White House that we've not seen any president bring before.

00:57:16.000 And it's Badakaf care, Naxanil Resent, and Trinidad Shabbat pressure.

00:57:19.000 Trinidad Shabbat pressure.

00:57:20.000 I really appreciate the Trinidad Shabbat pressure that he placed on Putin. 0.68

00:57:23.000 Game changer.

00:57:24.000 That he placed on Putin.

00:57:25.000 Trinidad Shabbat pressure, man.

00:57:27.000 I have to say, you guys do that really well.

00:57:29.000 I can't imitate that.

00:57:30.000 It's like another language. 0.96

00:57:32.000 Honestly, it's probably to your credit that you can.

00:57:36.000 Next Nulrescent. 0.93

00:57:37.000 Next Nulrescent. 0.93

00:57:38.000 Bata Caffe Care.

00:57:39.000 Those are easy.

00:57:40.000 But Trunan and the Shabba Da Pressure. 0.52

00:57:43.000 Trunan and the Shabba Da Pressure. 0.54

00:57:44.000 By the way, Trunan and the Shabba Da Pressure, we turned it into a song and made it a cartoon called Biden's Greatest Hits.

00:57:49.000 You guys better go check that out.

00:57:51.000 Someone said it's Trunan Der Dash Shabba Da Pressure.

00:57:53.000 Yeah.

00:57:54.000 No, I do see how you might hear that, but I listened to that over and over again on a repeat, trying to transcribe what he said to figure it out.

00:58:02.000 True n-n-n-sh, shop at a pressure. 1.00

00:58:03.000 Yeah, the double n-n-n-sh. 1.00

00:58:04.000 Yeah, the true n-n-n-sh. 1.00

00:58:06.000 True n-n-n-sh, shop at a pressure. 1.00

00:58:07.000 True international something under pressure.

00:58:10.000 I think that's what he was attempting.

00:58:11.000 Very good.

00:58:11.000 True international cooperation.

00:58:13.000 Like the Biden whisperer.

00:58:15.000 Yeah, we talked about it before.

00:58:17.000 Yeah, he does that little whisper.

00:58:18.000 You know what concerns me?

00:58:20.000 About him going with the flow is like that this, uh, this weird kind of, I don't know how to describe it.

00:58:24.000 This movement of like left this communist ideologies that are kind of creeping.

00:58:30.000 It seems like he's giving it to them.

00:58:31.000 Like he's just letting it happen.

00:58:32.000 Cause it feels like that's where the pressure's coming from is these, we got to do what the young people want, man.

00:58:36.000 I don't know what, what he's why, but it seems like he's just folding.

00:58:40.000 Somebody told him, or he told himself, that with a 50-50 split in Congress, in the Senate certainly, but really across the board, he was going to become FDR.

00:58:50.000 And that's just not the way politics works.

00:58:52.000 It's not the way American politics works.

00:58:53.000 He does not have the votes to do the things that he wanted to do, and people didn't want them done.

00:58:58.000 Joe Manchin, you know it's funny, Joe Manchin actually represents a more popular point of view than AOC does.

00:59:04.000 I mean if you just counted people who agreed, checked off what Manchin believes in, they would follow him.

00:59:11.000 But AOC's more popular because she's pretty? 1.00

00:59:13.000 She's popular to the press.

00:59:15.000 And she's popular.

00:59:16.000 Remember, she's in a safe district.

00:59:18.000 She's in a safe district.

00:59:19.000 I really get turned off by how people follow beautiful people. 0.77

00:59:21.000 It's really disgusting.

00:59:24.000 It's so dangerous.

00:59:26.000 We've got to fix that as a species. 0.91

00:59:27.000 So are you saying you hate my fans?

00:59:30.000 Well, I'm not saying you're beautiful, if that's what you're asking.

00:59:33.000 I was going to do a similar joke, but I was going to say, Ian, would you give up all your followers then?

00:59:39.000 I was going to say it too, but I was like, you know what?

00:59:40.000 It would be a bad look to compliment Ian, I'll compliment myself.

00:59:42.000 We're all going to die eventually.

00:59:44.000 You see the story that AOC, the FEC says that they failed to report a million dollars in expenses, that it seems they were funneling money, dark money, between two different organizations run by Saiket Chakrabarty? 0.88

00:59:55.000 That sounds like a racist, sexist thing to say.

00:59:58.000 This is, to me, the fascinating thing.

01:00:00.000 I don't hear anybody talking about this.

01:00:01.000 All these socialists are supported by the rich.

01:00:04.000 And I wonder, does AOC ever wake up in the middle of the night and think, why are the biggest corporations on earth agreeing with me?

01:00:12.000 I'm a socialist.

01:00:13.000 I mean to take their property away.

01:00:16.000 Why are they agreeing with me?

01:00:17.000 Or does she know that socialism always serves the rich and the powerful?

01:00:20.000 She seemed to change about a year and a half ago.

01:00:22.000 Something snapped in her brain and now she believes it's weird.

01:00:25.000 She's on board with that thing.

01:00:26.000 It feels like it.

01:00:27.000 Ever changed in a rhetoric power.

01:00:29.000 Do you guys ever see the episode of Simpsons where?

01:00:32.000 someone asks Homer to listen and he says you have my Undivided attention and then it zooms into his brain and it's a it's a it's playing you with the symbols, right?

01:00:39.000 No, no, it's an old cartoon with the cow playing.

01:00:41.000 Yeah, and it's the turtles banging on his chest like, doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.

01:00:45.000 I kind of imagine that when I see her like doing interviews or talking,

01:00:48.000 because she's said things that are so absurd, you'd think she doesn't have access to a dictionary or

01:00:54.000 Google.

01:00:56.000 Like when she talked about capitalism, she was like, no one's a capitalist because they're not rich.

01:01:02.000 It's like, those things don't connect.

01:01:04.000 What are you talking about?

01:01:05.000 Did you Google that before you said it?

01:01:07.000 Another one of her greatest hits is when she was complaining about the fact that people say that universal healthcare is going to cost a lot of money.

01:01:15.000 She said well, why don't people talk about all the money we're gonna save when we don't have to pay for as many funerals

01:01:18.000 Yeah, you think people stop dying if we have or no, they eat more sugar because you keep them alive on Amazon

01:01:24.000 Or no, what she said she saved money Yeah, it was like district because Amazon didn't move there. 0.52

01:01:30.000 Why are they giving money to Amazon? They're not they're giving them a discount on taxes

01:01:33.000 They would pay like so the 30 billion dollars the city would get and the job 20

01:01:39.000 So it's like Amazon would pay $27 billion instead of $30 billion because they're getting a $3 billion discount.

01:01:39.000 Right, right, right.

01:01:45.000 And she's like, but why are we giving them $3 billion?

01:01:48.000 But here's the thing.

01:01:49.000 So they don't go to the National Bank.

01:01:50.000 We're not.

01:01:50.000 Exactly.

01:01:50.000 They're paying us.

01:01:51.000 But that's actually so... And I'm going to be honest, that's not just... Opportunity costs.

01:01:55.000 That's not, for as many problems as there are with AOC's thinking, socialism being one of them, that's not a unique flaw with their thinking.

01:02:01.000 That's just part of the socialist ethos.

01:02:03.000 This business is only here exploiting and taking advantage of our workers.

01:02:07.000 The only way we benefit from them being there is by taking their money involuntarily.

01:02:11.000 So from their perspective, they really did lose money on that, as absurd as that sounds.

01:02:15.000 But they were either way going to take money from Amazon.

01:02:18.000 Just a little bit less.

01:02:19.000 They don't see it that way because Amazon was going to come there and exploit their workers. 1.00

01:02:23.000 Socialists never ask themselves where the money comes from.

01:02:26.000 I love going on these posts I'll see on Facebook where it's like, they say landlord isn't a real job or they say wage labor is theft.

01:02:35.000 And so I asked a few of these socialists some questions.

01:02:37.000 I was like, what if the people who rent my property are paying less than the cost of maintaining and upkeeping the property?

01:02:43.000 Is that theft?

01:02:44.000 And they're like, that makes no sense.

01:02:46.000 What do you mean?

01:02:47.000 Like sometimes people rent out a property and it will cost more than the amount they're paying in rent.

01:02:52.000 So who's being robbed now?

01:02:54.000 That's like no good answer.

01:02:55.000 I said, what if I'm paying the employee more money than they generate for the company?

01:02:59.000 Is that theft?

01:03:00.000 And they're like, that's not possible.

01:03:02.000 I'm like, yeah, it's called investment.

01:03:04.000 Like you could invest in a project that's making no money, but you're hoping to make money in the longterm.

01:03:09.000 So you're giving your money to somebody who's making no money for you in the hopes they eventually will.

01:03:15.000 And then you'll get paid back. 1.00

01:03:17.000 They're like, well, then you're an idiot. 0.98

01:03:21.000 That's like that's like when they women demand equal pay for the same sport and you go like nobody's watching the sport nobody's watching women's sports you know it's just like they will now that men are playing them but it's still and you know you get paid the money that you bring in I actually knew the people who got at the X Games. 0.99

01:03:40.000 They used to pay women 10% of what the men got paid.

01:03:44.000 And so this is the story as it was told to me.

01:03:46.000 I actually ended up going to the X Games as an advisor or liaison or whatever with one of these organizations.

01:03:51.000 So a good friend of mine was one of the top female skateboarding pros for a while. 0.99

01:03:56.000 And what I was told by these people At the X Games, they would give, I think it was like $30,000 to the first place male winner.

01:04:04.000 And the first place female winner would get $3,000. 0.96

01:04:07.000 And when this group of, you know, parents and organizers went to Disney, to ESPN or whatever, whoever runs it, said, you're paying women 10%.

01:04:15.000 Like, that's not fair.

01:04:17.000 And they said, look at the stands.

01:04:20.000 How many people are there watching?

01:04:21.000 You guys, you don't sell any tickets.

01:04:23.000 We can't pay you money we don't have.

01:04:26.000 Well, after some clever negotiating and some good PR tactics, eventually they agreed, we're going to pay the same.

01:04:33.000 What the argument was from the organizers is, we have the best female skateboarders in the world. 1.00

01:04:39.000 If you can't sell tickets, you have a marketing problem.

01:04:42.000 And so they said, you're going to pay the same you're going to pay.

01:04:46.000 And so eventually they agreed.

01:04:47.000 There's a really interesting backstory behind it.

01:04:49.000 I don't know if it's public, so I'll refrain, but that was their mentality.

01:04:53.000 I think there's a decent point there, to be honest.

01:04:55.000 Well, if you're going to invest in a show and you're saying the going rate for the top athletes in a division is X, You're investing hoping that you can figure out how to monetize it.

01:05:10.000 If you want top athletes and you can't figure out how to sell those top athletes, then I'd argue get rid of the division outright instead of just being like... Well, that certainly would have been one answer, but I don't understand.

01:05:23.000 I mean, maybe there's just less demand.

01:05:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:26.000 I mean, if it's a problem with marketing, why don't these female skateboarders get together, rent a stadium, hire a competent marketer, and make just as much money as the men? 1.00

01:05:33.000 Well, that would require tens of millions of dollars in investment they didn't have.

01:05:37.000 Potentially, but they could start smaller and they'd still be generating more income than this business that is just failing to market them properly.

01:05:42.000 When you come to performance-based jobs, you gotta pay people based on their performance.

01:05:45.000 And if the girls can't jump as high, sorry, you're not performing as well in that environment. 1.00

01:05:50.000 But look at women's tennis. 1.00

01:05:51.000 Women's tennis makes a ton of money. 1.00

01:05:53.000 That's because women's tennis is almost a different game. 1.00

01:05:56.000 I love tennis and women's tennis is almost a different game and in some ways a better game because it's slower and you can see it. 0.98

01:06:02.000 Oh, that's a good point.

01:06:04.000 And they wear those cute little dresses.

01:06:06.000 It brings people in, you know.

01:06:08.000 No, it is.

01:06:09.000 Yeah, you can see the curve of the volleys.

01:06:11.000 Everything.

01:06:13.000 I never liked the Williams sisters, not because of any personal animus, but they were so strong that they kind of overwhelmed people, because I always liked the slower women's game because it's just more strategic and more interesting. 0.98

01:06:23.000 The rallies last longer.

01:06:26.000 It's just more fun.

01:06:27.000 So it makes money.

01:06:28.000 Women's volleyball, too.

01:06:29.000 I've always loved that.

01:06:31.000 So the guy who actually led the charge for women's tennis in the 80s is the same guy who was leading the same charge for women's skateboarding.

01:06:38.000 So I think there's still an agreement there.

01:06:42.000 I think perhaps they need to create a different structure and stop trying to just replicate men's with women and maybe make something different.

01:06:48.000 Well, I'm all for that.

01:06:50.000 I think that that is one of the big mistakes of feminism is they're always trying to make the women men. 1.00

01:06:55.000 Even in how they live their lives.

01:06:57.000 Like, women start their careers early because feminists say their careers are important. 1.00

01:07:02.000 I think, why not have the babies early and then have your career afterwards?

01:07:04.000 It makes a lot more sense.

01:07:06.000 Just because men do it one way doesn't mean women have to do it the same way.

01:07:08.000 I'll tell you, man.

01:07:10.000 There's this woman I know. 0.62

01:07:12.000 She had a kid when she was in her mid-twenties.

01:07:15.000 So, this is what she told me.

01:07:18.000 Her and this guy were both doing the same kind of work.

01:07:21.000 They were working in, like, media production.

01:07:24.000 She ends up having a kid and took off only a little bit of time to, you know, take maternity time off and then raise the kid. 1.00

01:07:31.000 But it disproportionately held her back because there's an exponential gain to working nonstop when you're young.

01:07:38.000 And so, you know, she was pointing out that she's now in her 30s and she's half the distance of the guy who never took any time off.

01:07:45.000 But that said, I said to that, I'm like, I don't know if there's any solution to that because women literally have babies and men don't. 1.00

01:07:45.000 Sure. 1.00

01:07:53.000 Yes, and also maybe she got something else that men didn't have and maybe she had a life that she liked better.

01:07:58.000 She got to have a kid and spend time with her kid and that other guy didn't. 0.94

01:08:00.000 It's a nice thing.

01:08:02.000 Yeah, I think that's the crazy thing about it, that right now, you know, we're telling young girls to be men, to adopt the masculine role, and we're sort of ignoring the fact that having kids is a magical thing.

01:08:16.000 It's beautiful, it's wonderful, and people take it for granted, and I hate how it's viewed as some sort of consolation prize.

01:08:21.000 Oh, you didn't have a career, but you get to have a kid, as if your career is going to be more meaningful than creating human life.

01:08:27.000 There are so many people who are infertile, who would love to be able to have a child, and they can't.

01:08:33.000 And we constantly refer to this as something that we can just take for granted.

01:08:37.000 In fact, we view it as a demeaning thing.

01:08:38.000 Oh, you think that I should just have children?

01:08:40.000 Or you think this person or these people should just be having kids?

01:08:43.000 It's like, what do you mean just be having kids?

01:08:45.000 It's like the most incredible thing a person can do.

01:08:47.000 Let's trigger the entirety of the, the overwhelming majority of millennial Democrat women. 1.00

01:08:51.000 That's what I'm here for.

01:08:52.000 How many women, millennial women, do you think Secretly would prefer to be stay-at-home mothers with children. 1.00

01:08:59.000 I can answer this question.

01:09:00.000 Most of them.

01:09:01.000 Yes.

01:09:02.000 But I can answer it experientially.

01:09:05.000 I lived for many years in a place called Montecito, which is in Santa Barbara, possibly one of the wealthiest communities on earth.

01:09:13.000 All of the women stayed home. 1.00

01:09:15.000 Because they could.

01:09:15.000 Why?

01:09:16.000 You know, I mean, that was it.

01:09:17.000 They had a complete choice.

01:09:18.000 And people always ask me, well, why do you talk about the rich?

01:09:20.000 And I say, because they have complete choice.

01:09:23.000 You know, they could have worked.

01:09:25.000 And I'll tell you something else, by the way.

01:09:28.000 They called them the Montecito Moms. 1.00

01:09:31.000 They ran everything, they ran the town.

01:09:33.000 I was a tennis player, I was in locker rooms where guys will say obnoxious things.

01:09:38.000 I never heard a man diss his wife, not once.

01:09:40.000 I never heard them spoken of anything with kind of awe and respect, because they built not just a home life, but they built, it's not just having the children, it's creating souls with those children.

01:09:53.000 It's a remarkable thing, and those women actually were at the center of the city. 1.00

01:09:58.000 The education and formation of children.

01:10:00.000 It's so unbelievably important and it's this power that stay-at-home mothers have that they've been told to reject and you're right that they also serve a very important function in the community and it's not as if when they leave to have corporate careers that is filled by someone else or a different group of people.

01:10:15.000 It just either isn't done at the same level or not at all.

01:10:18.000 Feminists took the brags of men seriously. 1.00

01:10:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Men were like, we're more important than women. 0.79

01:10:21.000 Feminists are like, what? 1.00

01:10:24.000 Don't they know how much we lie?

01:10:26.000 And now all these years later, you've got men just sitting at home playing video games.

01:10:30.000 All the women are out there making the money like she bought it, dude. 1.00

01:10:33.000 It's great, yeah.

01:10:34.000 Of course, I'm being facetious.

01:10:36.000 Everyone's miserable.

01:10:37.000 So I just did a quick Google search.

01:10:38.000 This is interesting.

01:10:39.000 In 2015, Time reported Gallup said 56% of U.S.

01:10:41.000 mothers Well, I don't know what they're actually saying.

01:10:46.000 Maybe this is wrong.

01:10:46.000 It said, who prefer to stay home over work?

01:10:50.000 If that's what, I hope that's the correct context.

01:10:52.000 It's, but in 2019, it says Gallup says record high 56% of US women prefer working to homemaking. 0.75

01:10:59.000 Now, but this is the reason why I said, really, because there's social stigma involved.

01:11:04.000 And, um, you know, far be it for me to say that these women are lying to polls in secret, but we also know about the secret Trump voter. 1.00

01:11:11.000 That many Trump voters lied to pollsters out of fear or just distrust.

01:11:16.000 I'm curious if there's a similar effect with women who would prefer to be at home with kids or if they really would just rather be working. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Well, the studies do show that women have gotten increasingly unhappy.

01:11:25.000 They used to be far happier than men. 0.98

01:11:27.000 They used to be both far happier and far less happy than men because women have a wider emotional range.

01:11:33.000 But now they're just more unhappy than men.

01:11:36.000 I think a lot of it's like the birth control and the water supply and stuff.

01:11:38.000 These chemicals, man.

01:11:40.000 I don't know if it's chemical castration, but it's like changing moods.

01:11:44.000 Well, we do have more estrogen.

01:11:45.000 Our men have less testosterone now than they did decades ago with microplastics in the water.

01:11:50.000 You can find a poll for anything.

01:11:52.000 Yeah.

01:11:52.000 So here we go.

01:11:53.000 Here's a poll.

01:11:53.000 Poll finds most working moms would rather stay home.

01:11:56.000 Okay.

01:11:57.000 So Gallup says the opposite.

01:11:58.000 There's time differences.

01:12:00.000 It's really hard to know.

01:12:01.000 If you pull Montecito, you're going to get 98% of women want to stay home. 1.00

01:12:04.000 How many people did they pull?

01:12:05.000 2,000?

01:12:05.000 You know, we got to figure that out.

01:12:06.000 All I know is when I was, before the pandemic, when I was giving a lot of speeches at colleges, I used to start my speech by saying, listen, I'm an old guy.

01:12:15.000 I'm going to tell you what I see. 0.96

01:12:17.000 Young women are miserable. 1.00

01:12:19.000 When I finish my speech, if I'm wrong, Get up and tell me. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Don't be afraid.

01:12:22.000 Just come up and tell me you're not miserable.

01:12:24.000 You love what's going on.

01:12:25.000 Never, not once, did a woman get up and say, we're not miserable. 1.00

01:12:28.000 In fact, they often got up and said, Oh boy, are we?

01:12:31.000 It feels like if someone, if people are losing hope for the future, that the women are going to feel it the hardest.

01:12:36.000 I think that's a good point.

01:12:37.000 Partly because like you were saying, they have a stronger emotional range just in general, being female for them as a generalization. 0.96

01:12:43.000 But they're also the creators of the future.

01:12:45.000 Yeah, they are the anchor of reality.

01:12:47.000 And they see this nonsense of these dudes screwing around with each other, making war,

01:12:52.000 and just ignoring clean water supplies, sustainable technology.

01:12:58.000 Oh, man.

01:12:59.000 I have to mention my book, The Truth and Beauty, because I want everybody to buy it, but this is one of the chapters in the book is about the novel Frankenstein, which I argue is about a man usurping the power of women.

01:13:12.000 They frequently said in Mary Shelley, the author actually said it's about a man usurping the power of God.

01:13:16.000 I thought, no he's not, because men and women can make life, you know, they make life out of given material, but what he does is he makes a person without a mother.

01:13:25.000 And that's the whole story.

01:13:26.000 And by the end of it, the monster, as they now call him, the monster says, make me a woman.

01:13:32.000 Make a woman for me. 0.99

01:13:33.000 Make me an Eve.

01:13:34.000 You made an Adam, now make an Eve.

01:13:36.000 And when he won't do it, the guy becomes a serial killer, basically. 0.99

01:13:39.000 He just kills every woman he can find. 0.99

01:13:41.000 And that is a very powerful expression. 0.72

01:13:44.000 That theme, that was the first modern science fiction novel.

01:13:48.000 She invented, she was 18 years old, 19 years old when she wrote it.

01:13:51.000 She invented the genre of science fiction.

01:13:53.000 And that's what science fiction a lot of times is about.

01:13:55.000 So if you look at Brave New World, what happens?

01:13:58.000 They get rid of mothers and they just make babies in machines. 1.00

01:14:01.000 If you look at The Giver, they relegate motherhood to the lowest person. 0.99

01:14:06.000 My favorite example is The Terminator.

01:14:09.000 Which is actually a great action film.

01:14:11.000 The first one is one of the great action films.

01:14:13.000 The machines have taken over the world.

01:14:15.000 Human beings are trying to fight back.

01:14:17.000 So what do they do? 0.98

01:14:18.000 They send somebody back in time to kill the rebel leader's mother.

01:14:22.000 And the thing I love about the first movie is she's not a muscle man.

01:14:26.000 She's not an action hero.

01:14:27.000 She's just a girl. 0.55

01:14:29.000 She's just a girl who wants to do her hair, she wants to go out on dates, you know, she's just a girl who wants to have fun, but she's the most important person because she is going to create not just this life, not just this particular person, she's going to create the person that he becomes who's willing to fight the machines.

01:14:44.000 That's a really good point.

01:14:45.000 I think in order for sci-fi to really work what it has to do is touch on those kinds of timeless themes and it's a genre which is really predisposed to do so because the entire juxtaposition is this modern technology that humanity has just finally been able to come into contact with or develop Against our natural instincts which have been within us for thousands and thousands of years But so much sci-fi that you see which is done poorly Completely discounts that and it tries to hold on to this idea of like the new socialist man And even though it'll claim there will be problems with the new technology.

01:15:17.000 It's never anything that deep I think one of the challenges for a lot of the woke attempts at film is they're just it seems like they're trying to create a new hero's journey, but for women and So a good example of this is Captain Marvel.

01:15:31.000 Have you seen that movie?

01:15:32.000 No, I haven't.

01:15:34.000 So in a typical hero's journey, I'm sure you're totally aware of that.

01:15:37.000 I am.

01:15:37.000 So basically you've got someone there, what is it, thrust into adventure, aided by magic.

01:15:44.000 You can look at the story of Luke Skywalker.

01:15:45.000 He's just some regular kid.

01:15:46.000 That's based on Joseph Campbell's story.

01:15:49.000 All of a sudden, he is learning about how his dad was a great Jedi Knight with Force powers, and he has to learn to use it, he gets a sword, and he's on this adventure, and he's a regular kid, just like you!

01:15:58.000 Watching Captain Marvel was fascinating because the story there was, she was always powerful, but a man was suppressing her power, and only when she believed in herself could the power be unleashed.

01:16:10.000 And I'm like, maybe they haven't figured out, maybe it's not possible, I don't know, because the story is inherently a masculine role of a fighter, adventurer, a conqueror, and maybe that doesn't work.

01:16:23.000 You know what I thought did work?

01:16:25.000 Wonder Woman.

01:16:26.000 Did you see Wonder Woman?

01:16:26.000 Yes.

01:16:27.000 I thought that was fantastic.

01:16:28.000 Yeah, first one, yeah.

01:16:29.000 But Wonder Woman's character was very much motherly.

01:16:34.000 And idealistic.

01:16:35.000 He's very girly, yeah.

01:16:37.000 But the idealism versus the realism, and I thought that was actually well done.

01:16:41.000 It works in the horror film Alien, because that is a film about these monsters that use men as mothers.

01:16:41.000 You know where it works?

01:16:49.000 They stick their thing in, the guy bursts out of his belly, and basically they feminize men. 1.00

01:16:55.000 So the woman in the end has to fight back and become an action hero, but it's a horror movie.

01:17:01.000 Good one, too.

01:17:02.000 Dude, I want to talk about your book a little bit before we go to super chat.

01:17:04.000 So it's called... I can barely see my hand.

01:17:06.000 Oh, The Truth.

01:17:07.000 The Truth and Beauty.

01:17:08.000 The Truth.

01:17:09.000 This is why I asked you at the beginning of the show, do you believe in objective truth?

01:17:11.000 Of course.

01:17:12.000 Oh, you're in for it.

01:17:13.000 You're in for it.

01:17:13.000 He and I have this debate like every other episode.

01:17:16.000 This is about the Romantic poets and how they invented a way of seeing that renews the way

01:17:23.000 you read the Gospels.

01:17:24.000 That if you read the Gospels after reading the Romantic poets, you will see what Jesus

01:17:28.000 was saying more clearly.

01:17:29.000 And one of the reasons for this is they lived in a time almost exactly like this one.

01:17:34.000 The relationship is uncanny.

01:17:36.000 The French Revolution, they thought it was going to bring paradise.

01:17:40.000 They thought, this is it.

01:17:41.000 We're going to get rid of all the priests. 0.79

01:17:43.000 We're going to get rid of all the kings.

01:17:44.000 We're going to rewrite the calendar.

01:17:45.000 We're going to change everything.

01:17:46.000 We're going to change language.

01:17:48.000 Women are not going to be women anymore. 1.00

01:17:49.000 Marriage is not going to exist anymore. 0.58

01:17:51.000 And it all fell apart.

01:17:52.000 It all turned to terror and world war.

01:17:54.000 The Napoleonic Wars were 12 years of essentially a world war.

01:17:58.000 And only a few people, the intellectuals didn't, just like with the fall of the Soviet Union, the intellectuals didn't want to let go of this radical dream that you could transform the world into a better place.

01:18:07.000 And in the aftermath of this utter destruction, the Romantic generation was taxed with the job of recreating human consciousness.

01:18:18.000 And one of the things that had fallen away, I think the central thing that had fallen away was faith.

01:18:22.000 This was the first big explosion of science.

01:18:24.000 It brought faith into question.

01:18:25.000 People were actually becoming atheists for the first time.

01:18:28.000 The first time in Christian Europe that people were actually saying maybe there is no God or at least there's no Christianity or there were deists or there's something new.

01:18:38.000 And so these poets had to recreate human consciousness.

01:18:41.000 If you lose God, if you lose the idea that this is God, and this is who He is, and this is what He tells me, you lose two things.

01:18:48.000 You lose yourself, because yourself is not connected to anything, so it's just this kind of thing floating in space.

01:18:54.000 And you lose the idea of objective truth.

01:18:56.000 You lose the idea that there is some kind of moral truth.

01:18:59.000 What happens is exactly what's happening now.

01:18:59.000 So what happens?

01:19:01.000 Your inner world becomes two things at once, two completely contradictory things at once.

01:19:05.000 It becomes meaningless.

01:19:06.000 So you say, well, we like living in a country where women have rights. 1.00

01:19:10.000 But in Muslim countries, they live in a place where you have to dress up in a bag and basically you can't go outdoors. 1.00

01:19:16.000 Who's to say which is right?

01:19:18.000 Which is nonsense.

01:19:19.000 We're right.

01:19:19.000 I mean, we are actually morally right.

01:19:22.000 Or compare it to, say, the slaveholding South.

01:19:25.000 Was the slave-holding South less right about human rights than the North? 0.95

01:19:29.000 Yes, it was less right.

01:19:30.000 It was better not to have slaves.

01:19:32.000 So that's the first thing.

01:19:33.000 They teach people that their inner life means nothing.

01:19:36.000 Their sense of morality means nothing.

01:19:39.000 On the other hand, they teach you that their inner life is absolutely sovereign.

01:19:42.000 So if in the middle of this conversation you say, oh, by the way, I'm a woman.

01:19:46.000 I now have to call you a woman or else I'm a hateful person for not acknowledging the sovereignty of your inner life, right?

01:19:52.000 What these poets came back to, the ones I study anyway, is that your inner life is actually a collaboration with creation.

01:20:00.000 It is actually the part of creation that creates.

01:20:04.000 Coleridge was the guy who came up with that formulation, but a lot of them sort of said the same thing.

01:20:09.000 Wordsworth called you an agent of the one great mind.

01:20:13.000 And in reestablishing this connection with what they called nature, but ultimately became the spiritual meaning of nature, they actually reestablished what Jesus was talking about.

01:20:24.000 You know, Jesus said things like, you can't be creative unless you're a branch of my vine.

01:20:30.000 If the branch falls off, it's not going to create any fruit.

01:20:32.000 It's got to be created to the source of life.

01:20:35.000 And so when you start to look at the world as a collaboration of you with reality, which is the only thing that makes sense.

01:20:42.000 Come on, let's face it.

01:20:43.000 I mean, you know, if I, the only leap of faith you have to take in life, you know, people always talk about the leap of faith.

01:20:49.000 I talk about a little step of faith.

01:20:51.000 You have to say to yourself, you have to ask yourself in all honesty, not in philosophy class, not in a conversation at two in the morning where you're drinking with your friends, in all honesty, Do you believe that it is better to give a beggar bread than to kick a child? 1.00

01:21:06.000 If you can say to me, well, if everybody thinks it's right to kick a child, then kicking a child is right. 0.97

01:21:11.000 First of all, I think you're lying.

01:21:13.000 You don't think that.

01:21:15.000 And second of all, if you will acknowledge that it is better to give a beggar bread than it is to kick a child, after that you're done with whether there's objective truth or not. 0.93

01:21:23.000 Of course there is.

01:21:24.000 Of course there is.

01:21:25.000 You know there is.

01:21:26.000 As I always tell people, this is what I always tell young people who are immersed in philosophy, is don't believe what you don't believe.

01:21:34.000 Don't say you believe something because it somehow makes sense or you can reason your way to it.

01:21:39.000 You can reason your way to anything.

01:21:42.000 Reason is one of the tools we use.

01:21:45.000 But the reason the book is called The Truth and Beauty It's because one of the poets, John Keats, wrote this beautiful poem which ends with the line, beauty is truth and truth is beauty.

01:21:53.000 That's all you know on earth and all you need to know.

01:21:55.000 And what he was saying was, you're actually a machine built for recognizing truth as beauty.

01:22:02.000 Not as prettiness, not like you like red flowers and I like white flowers, but that shock that you have when you confront truth.

01:22:10.000 When you say, oh, holding a slave is wrong.

01:22:14.000 And that's what beauty is.

01:22:15.000 That's that connection that you have to this thing that is beyond yourself.

01:22:21.000 Is there a step of faith in there?

01:22:22.000 Yeah, but it's a step of faith that we all have already taken.

01:22:25.000 We just don't want to acknowledge it.

01:22:26.000 Why do you think that the power structures of reality, at least as far back as I can tell, have been deception and murder?

01:22:33.000 The people at the top that have the control are the ones that are the most deceitful and are willing to lie.

01:22:38.000 Yeah, because I think it's a broken world.

01:22:40.000 I mean, I think that's one of the things.

01:22:42.000 The other part of the story of Jesus, who said, you know, I am the way and the truth and the life, is they killed him.

01:22:47.000 And part of the message, I think, of the Gospels is that you can kill the truth.

01:22:52.000 You will kill the truth.

01:22:54.000 But it doesn't die.

01:22:56.000 It keeps coming back.

01:22:57.000 One of the interesting things to me about the passion story, the story of the death of Christ, is that there's no real villain in it.

01:23:04.000 You can kind of pick out Judas as a betrayer, but he's killed by the church, he's killed by the government, he's killed by the people, he's killed by everybody.

01:23:11.000 And that is the nature of truth.

01:23:12.000 So you're right, it's a broken world, and the powerful and the evil and the deceptive do tend to rise above.

01:23:20.000 But we know that, because we know what's right and what's wrong.

01:23:24.000 Liars have that advantage.

01:23:25.000 Yeah. 0.56

01:23:26.000 But how would you even know they were the bad guys if there were no objective truth?

01:23:30.000 That's a good point.

01:23:31.000 We're talking about factory farming yesterday.

01:23:33.000 And I think Tim at one point said, you know, Ian, we just eat meat.

01:23:36.000 And I was like, I was picturing us in the Roman Empire.

01:23:39.000 And Tim's like, you know, Ian, we just have slaves.

01:23:41.000 And it was like, I don't think that, I don't know, man, it's utilitarian.

01:23:45.000 I don't think that sometimes like you have to kill a million people to save a million people.

01:23:48.000 Like, is that right?

01:23:49.000 Well, you're absolutely right that the, how can I put it, the analog between physical life and the moral meaning of life is imperfect.

01:23:58.000 It's broken.

01:23:59.000 It's broken.

01:24:00.000 I mean, you know, the famous trolley question, do you let the trolley run over five people by accident or do you turn it and, do you let it run over one person by accident or do you turn it and kill five people?

01:24:14.000 No, it's the other way around.

01:24:15.000 Five people on accident and one person on purpose.

01:24:16.000 It's the other way around.

01:24:17.000 There are some questions that can't be answered, that cannot wholly be answered.

01:24:20.000 That's the world we live in.

01:24:21.000 It is a broken world.

01:24:22.000 Do you think you can do evil and it's right?

01:24:25.000 Well, then it wouldn't be evil, right?

01:24:26.000 It wouldn't be evil, yeah.

01:24:28.000 Okay, I guess then, just, do you think you can destroy?

01:24:31.000 I mean, I personally think you can destroy, and it's right, in certain situations.

01:24:34.000 You need to sometimes... Yes, yeah, yeah.

01:24:36.000 You destroyed Nazi Germany. 0.68

01:24:37.000 Things that are annihilating reality, you can destroy them.

01:24:40.000 Yes, yes. 0.97

01:24:41.000 And you can kill, and it's right.

01:24:42.000 I mean, that's why the Ten Commandments don't say, they don't say, don't kill, they say, don't murder.

01:24:45.000 The people that I, are friends with the person I destroyed to preserve reality, think that that's evil.

01:24:52.000 But they can be wrong.

01:24:53.000 See, we know we can be wrong about reality, right?

01:24:56.000 We know that we've fallen in love with somebody and it turned out, no, it was just infatuation in the past.

01:25:02.000 Eros, one type of love, at least.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, but we thought it was true love, but it wasn't true love.

01:25:07.000 We know that people held slaves and convinced themselves it was right. 0.99

01:25:10.000 It's interesting when you read their diaries, they knew they were wrong, but they convinced themselves.

01:25:14.000 They were right.

01:25:15.000 We know you can be wrong, so that means you can be right, right?

01:25:18.000 If you can be wrong, you can be right. 0.90

01:25:20.000 The problem is, the truth is, that just because there is such a thing as truth doesn't mean that you can pound your palm with your fist and declare what it is.

01:25:29.000 You know, Jesus didn't do that.

01:25:30.000 He told stories, and that's a very complicated way.

01:25:33.000 Socrates just asked questions, you know.

01:25:35.000 The people who actually understand that there is such a thing as truth, and they are the two people I think on which our civilization is based, and they're the two people who both lived in a time of relativism and declared there was such a thing as truth, but neither of them said, and the truth is this.

01:25:49.000 I thought Einstein also was interesting in how he kind of said, there was a God.

01:25:52.000 Well, Christ said he was the way and the truth.

01:25:54.000 But that's a very complex thing to say, right?

01:25:56.000 I mean, the truth is a person.

01:25:58.000 It's Jesus Christ, right?

01:25:59.000 That's right.

01:26:00.000 And then there are also certain things like, if you love me, keep my commandments, which means these are things that are right and wrong.

01:26:05.000 Yes, but the commandments are interesting because the commandments are almost always negative.

01:26:09.000 And one of the questions my book asks is, Once you do the negative things, what's the positive thing you're supposed to do?

01:26:15.000 Because a lot of people never get to that point.

01:26:17.000 They think like, oh, you know, I'm not cheating on my wife.

01:26:19.000 I'm a Christian.

01:26:20.000 You know, I'm not drinking too much.

01:26:21.000 I'm a Christian.

01:26:22.000 You know, and you think like, okay, but would the king of heaven and earth suffer death just to tell me not to cheat on my wife?

01:26:28.000 You know, my wife tells me not to cheat on her. 1.00

01:26:30.000 I don't actually need God to tell me that.

01:26:32.000 You know, there must be something more that he was trying to tell us.

01:26:35.000 And I think he was trying to tell us That there is a way for us to collaborate with reality that is incredibly beautiful and it happens to each of us all the time.

01:26:44.000 I want to ask, why is it, do you think, that among many secular atheist types, they almost have a desire to believe in random nothingness?

01:26:57.000 Yeah.

01:26:57.000 Well, because they think it's going to give them power.

01:27:01.000 They think it's going to make them free.

01:27:02.000 And it does.

01:27:03.000 It always does exactly the opposite.

01:27:05.000 I mean, that's kind of, you know, to use the word, to say the word out loud, it's kind of satanic that there are certain things that offer you power.

01:27:14.000 Anger makes you feel powerful.

01:27:16.000 You know, that rage you feel against people.

01:27:18.000 Thinking that you're totally free.

01:27:20.000 Thinking that I can change my sex.

01:27:21.000 I just have to announce it and I've changed my sex. 0.80

01:27:23.000 It sounds like power, but it actually enslaves you.

01:27:25.000 To elaborate a little bit further is, you know, I had a conversation recently with someone who said that they were

01:27:30.000 just a wet robot.

01:27:30.000 That's all they were.

01:27:31.000 Yes, yes.

01:27:32.000 And I'm like, but why would you... what makes you... I don't understand why someone would believe that.

01:27:39.000 The idea that I had was, you know, for me, I personally feel a soul or something akin to this idea or concept of an

01:27:47.000 inner being, a self.

01:27:48.000 There's something within me.

01:27:49.000 And, uh, I personally feel and have personally experienced some kind of, I guess you could say a connection to God or something like that.

01:27:58.000 If someone doesn't have that, I don't believe they're lying to me.

01:28:00.000 I just said, maybe they don't have a soul.

01:28:02.000 Maybe they don't have a connection.

01:28:03.000 Although it is obvious that some people are better at this, that are born for it.

01:28:08.000 And Jesus says, one of the most painful things he says is, to those who have, even more will be given.

01:28:14.000 To those who have not, even what they have will be taken away.

01:28:16.000 And I think that that's what he's talking about.

01:28:18.000 That some people don't feel that connection and some people just do.

01:28:22.000 What really, really trips me up more than anything in terms... Let me just put it this way.

01:28:28.000 Having these conversations with Michael Malice about DMT, the breaking through the veil, meeting other people on the other side, and those conversations, I think, at the very least, open the door to someone should at least be agnostic.

01:28:42.000 You've heard these conversations, I'd imagine.

01:28:44.000 Joe Rogan talks about it.

01:28:45.000 We were talking to Michael Malice, and he was telling us stories of meeting people on the other side, communicating, and then coming back and being like, wow, how did we share these thoughts?

01:28:53.000 And I'm like, well, whatever it is, I don't know, but it certainly suggests there's something beyond us, right?

01:28:57.000 Something weird.

01:28:58.000 Actually, I knew a young woman who was a socialist and a materialist, and she was about 40, I guess, and she died and came back.

01:29:06.000 And I said, wow, did you experience anything?

01:29:07.000 She said, yeah, I actually left my body and I saw the doctors in the room.

01:29:11.000 And I said, so has that changed your mind?

01:29:13.000 No.

01:29:16.000 I think it was Aquinas who said to the believer, no explanation is necessary for the non-believer, no explanation is possible. 0.95

01:29:24.000 Yes, yes.

01:29:25.000 I mean, I wrote in my memoir that if you believe, everything is proof.

01:29:32.000 If you don't believe, no proof can be enough.

01:29:34.000 You have to look at plasma clouds.

01:29:36.000 I mean, it's almost undeniable that there's intelligence involved in the movement of plasma fields.

01:29:40.000 Well, that is another thing.

01:29:41.000 I mean, the science, actually, you know, it made sense for there to be atheists after Newton, you know, because you could kind of extrapolate, oh, everything's a machine.

01:29:49.000 But it all turned out to be much weirder than Newton said, and now, really, there's a wonderful book about this called The Return of the God Hypothesis, where really, it's not, you know, the title sounds like it's a hippy-dippy, like, religious thing, but it's a real scientific book about why scientists are now saying, you know, There actually are, there actually is evidence of an intelligence behind creation.

01:30:12.000 To me, that's the only thing that makes sense.

01:30:14.000 Well, I like to simplify it, or at least explain it in sort of a way that I think most people who are secular liberal types should understand is, if, you know, we build computers.

01:30:24.000 Computers act based on the rules that exist in reality and they, you know, they imitate intelligence or at least we're producing artificial intelligence.

01:30:32.000 Then for me, I don't believe that the computers we've built are the final point at which computers can ever come to.

01:30:41.000 But a better way to look at it is the human mind.

01:30:43.000 If you were just a wet robot, well then certainly the human brain isn't the end-all be-all of computational power within a living being.

01:30:50.000 Certainly there is the probability, based on the expanse of the universe and our scientific understanding, that there will be a more powerful intellect that exists beyond human comprehension.

01:31:01.000 It's interesting when you, you know, C.S.

01:31:03.000 Lewis had this great line, he said, even a determinist will ask you if you will please pass the salt, meaning he acknowledges that you have free will.

01:31:12.000 We all know we have free will and we get talked out of it.

01:31:15.000 And that would mean our entire experience of life is deception.

01:31:19.000 And one of the things these poets were trying to say is, you know, your interior experience can be deceptive, but the very fact that it can be deceptive tells you that it can also be right.

01:31:29.000 Yeah, I've been fasting.

01:31:31.000 They can be deceiving you about.

01:31:32.000 I think that the chemicals, like the bacteria that live on the food you eat, mind control us.

01:31:36.000 They tell you, you want more of that.

01:31:38.000 So you get these cravings.

01:31:39.000 But when you fast, you strip away the lies and like the fakeness of being told the wrong thing.

01:31:44.000 And you start to see, or at least experience the real.

01:31:51.000 I don't know how to describe it with human words.

01:31:53.000 It's an energy field.

01:31:54.000 Well, I mean, we've all been in a kind of haze of unknowing and delusion.

01:31:59.000 Everybody's had that experience.

01:32:00.000 I mean, a pretty girl only has to sit down next to you for you to experience some of it, you know, just go into this kind of haze of lust, basically. 0.87

01:32:09.000 So we all know that we can come out of that and be more realistic.

01:32:13.000 So we must be moving towards something more real, you know?

01:32:15.000 I just had a thought.

01:32:16.000 I was wondering, you know, I wonder if people who view themselves as atheists, or what percentage of atheists have meditated or prayed.

01:32:26.000 I would imagine it'd be relatively low in terms of praying, maybe a little bit higher in terms of meditation.

01:32:32.000 But I'm wondering if a lot of people just don't try to have an internal experience or something.

01:32:38.000 Just a thought, because I kind of feel like... No, I completely agree with this.

01:32:42.000 Yeah, you know, I grew up Catholic briefly, and my family left the church, and I've met a whole bunch of different people from all walks of life, from, you know, anarcho-punk atheist types to anarcho-punk Catholics.

01:32:55.000 And they've, you know, I've heard a lot of interesting thoughts, but the one thing that really stuck with me is There is, in terms of people who are spiritual, agnostic, or believed outright, is that there was a desire to discover more.

01:33:10.000 And for a lot of the atheists, it's sort of, it's kind of a tendency towards, I don't want to, I'm not trying to paint every atheist this way, was sort of determinist, sort of absolute, sort of, we aren't going to know, so I don't know what I can say to that.

01:33:24.000 As opposed to like, You know, the crazy people I know who go on spirit quests and go down to South America to do ayahuasca.

01:33:29.000 Yeah.

01:33:30.000 The people who are seeking answers and trying to find things tend to be more spiritual or believe, in my experience.

01:33:34.000 Well, you know, Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court Justice, told a great story about right outside of Washington in a church there was a statue of the Virgin Mary that began to Bleed or cry, I can't remember what it was.

01:33:45.000 And he said, no reporter went out to cover this story.

01:33:48.000 And I think that tells you something.

01:33:50.000 I did a video a long time ago, it's called Find God in 90 days, or 60 days, whatever it was.

01:33:56.000 And the idea was just go into a room by yourself where you can pray out loud for 15 minutes every day.

01:34:02.000 And see if you get an answer, you know, because you will.

01:34:04.000 If you clear your mind, I had a bunch of lies and secrets that I kept my whole life.

01:34:08.000 When I was 26, I decided, what would Jesus do with this technology?

01:34:12.000 He'd be honest.

01:34:12.000 So I started making YouTube videos and telling people my secrets about my past.

01:34:16.000 And it started to clear up my thoughts and I no longer got interrupted by randomness.

01:34:21.000 I could ask questions to my consciousness and it would respond.

01:34:24.000 And now with fasting, it does it even more clear.

01:34:26.000 That's really interesting.

01:34:28.000 That's a very, first of all, it's a very brave thing to do, but it is also, it's just incredibly true that if you let go of the lies, I mean, one of the things about Christianity is the first thing that happens, I converted at the age of 50, so I'm not, you know, I'm telling you something that really happens, is that you suddenly think like, oh, I get it, I'm a worm, you know? 0.98

01:34:47.000 I'm a schmuck. 0.98

01:34:48.000 And then you're free. 1.00

01:34:50.000 You know, you're free.

01:34:51.000 You're forgiven.

01:34:52.000 You're done.

01:34:52.000 You got it.

01:34:53.000 And you have that exact same kind of experience of liberation.

01:34:57.000 I look back on this moment in my life as just perfectly ironic or hilarious.

01:35:02.000 When I was a teenager, I read that famous quote, the only thing we know is that we know nothing.

01:35:07.000 Who said that?

01:35:07.000 Socrates.

01:35:08.000 And I remember thinking that, and I'm a teenager, and I'm like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

01:35:13.000 People think that's smart. 0.98

01:35:14.000 And I was like, I know tons of stuff.

01:35:16.000 And then I think I was like, 10 years later, I'm 25 and I'm like, no truer statement has ever been said.

01:35:23.000 Shout out to Socrates. 0.98

01:35:25.000 Being an arrogant young kid, you know, and then thinking I was so smart and this great thinker was so dumb. 0.97

01:35:31.000 Every now and again, I'd go to college and people would protest and they'd scream. 0.98

01:35:35.000 And I just think, you know, you don't know anything.

01:35:37.000 What are you screaming about?

01:35:39.000 I may be wrong, but you have no way of knowing.

01:35:41.000 You're just too young.

01:35:42.000 I'll tell you, and we'll jump into Super Chats in a second.

01:35:44.000 We'll get to Super Chats.

01:35:46.000 It's just, when we have people on this show, and I'll say something passively about, say, Joe Biden's illicit dealings in Ukraine, and they'll say, oh, that's not true.

01:35:54.000 And then I'll be like...

01:35:56.000 Allow me to go through every story, every name, every journalist, and I'm like, did you even Google this?

01:36:03.000 And they're like, no.

01:36:04.000 I'm like, you don't even know, but you've taken a hard stance on this?

01:36:08.000 That's just weird to me.

01:36:09.000 But we do gotta go to- Can I just mention one more thing?

01:36:11.000 So, our conversation got interrupted or disjointed.

01:36:15.000 I think there are some things on the- just the Ten Commandments and the nature of spirituality that we might disagree about and can flesh out more, hopefully on the after show, because I think that would be a fascinating discussion.

01:36:22.000 I'm really enjoying hearing you talking about this in the way you- I will, of course, have to burn you at the stake.

01:36:29.000 I get how it goes, but it's worth a good conversation. 0.97

01:36:32.000 I think I'm related to those Salem witchcrafts. 0.70

01:36:34.000 The Putnams and Putnam. 0.91

01:36:35.000 I think she's in my ancestry.

01:36:36.000 Are you saying you're the grandchild of the witches that couldn't burn Ian?

01:36:39.000 We're going to go to Super Chats.

01:36:39.000 Yes.

01:36:40.000 Ladies and gentlemen, if you have not already, you must smash that like button.

01:36:43.000 We implore you.

01:36:44.000 Do it for Ian.

01:36:45.000 Thank you.

01:36:45.000 Smash the like button for Ian.

01:36:47.000 Otherwise, he cries and Seamus gets angry.

01:36:49.000 I'm gonna punch the walls because Ian's crying keeps me up.

01:36:52.000 But don't forget to subscribe to the channel and head over to TimCast.com.

01:36:56.000 We're gonna have a members-only segment up at 11 p.m.

01:36:58.000 for all of you.

01:36:59.000 You won't want to miss it.

01:37:00.000 We're gonna talk about some crazy stuff for sure.

01:37:02.000 Life, the universe, the secrets, and all that.

01:37:04.000 But let's read some Super Chats. 0.69

01:37:05.000 Here we go.

01:37:06.000 Christopher Blakely says, Boraphine.

01:37:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:11.000 Love your show.

01:37:11.000 Watch everything.

01:37:12.000 Thanks, guys.

01:37:12.000 It's like a boron-graphene compound of some sort.

01:37:16.000 Massively awesome.

01:37:18.000 We got an important one from Pirate Taurus.

01:37:19.000 He says, I saw my first chicken party today.

01:37:22.000 Amazing.

01:37:23.000 So you saw the chicken.

01:37:24.000 I did.

01:37:25.000 I was very impressed with the chickens.

01:37:26.000 I saw the chickens having sex, which was probably the highlight of my week.

01:37:32.000 Well, it doesn't, you know, it doesn't seem consensual. 0.83

01:37:37.000 I'm not going to make chicken jokes, but I could.

01:37:40.000 I don't think graphene's involved or carbon's involved at all.

01:37:44.000 So we have 20,000 subscribers of our Chicken City.

01:37:47.000 It's been a month.

01:37:48.000 People love watching chickens and pets.

01:37:51.000 People say they turn it on for their cats and their dogs when they're out and the animals just love watching the chickens.

01:37:56.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:37:57.000 So, we have a meter.

01:37:59.000 And when people give $5 Super Chats, treats fall down from the sky egg, we call it.

01:38:04.000 It drops treats.

01:38:05.000 Once the meter hits $100, it will cue every five minutes, it'll run a check.

01:38:10.000 If the meter has reached $100, it plays dance music and a bunch of treats start pouring out.

01:38:15.000 And it screams, chicken party!

01:38:18.000 That's great. 0.99

01:38:19.000 Yeah, I was talking to the guys with The Daily Wire, and I said, look, we do really stupid things here over at TimCast.

01:38:24.000 I don't think any traditional media business would do this, but we're working on a commercial that I want to put on networks, and I genuinely plan to have it run on Tucker Carlson.

01:38:35.000 I've already talked to the ad people over at Tucker in the past, and they said, yeah, absolutely.

01:38:40.000 You know, it's just, you pay for it, we run the ad.

01:38:42.000 As long as it's a legitimate business, we'll do it.

01:38:44.000 So, uh, Chicken City makes money.

01:38:46.000 It's our second, uh, highest grossing show now.

01:38:50.000 So we're gonna... Is it really?

01:38:51.000 I mean, because people give money for treats. 0.97

01:38:54.000 Yeah.

01:38:54.000 In terms of, like, viewership and everything, it's relatively low.

01:38:57.000 Right.

01:38:57.000 But, uh, it's a, it's a business item.

01:38:59.000 So we can, we can have, you know, Pop Culture Crisis is doing really, really well and getting tons of views, but it's all ad revenue based.

01:39:05.000 Maybe you should give them some treats.

01:39:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:07.000 We'll do a pop culture livestream and we'll put the egg.

01:39:10.000 Pop culture party!

01:39:12.000 I think actually that would be funny to do.

01:39:14.000 As long as Brett gets up on the desk and dances.

01:39:17.000 But it can't be mealworms that fall down.

01:39:19.000 It's gotta be like Reese's Pieces.

01:39:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:22.000 Just raining candy on Brett.

01:39:23.000 That'd be hilarious.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, alright, let's read some more.

01:39:26.000 Alright.

01:39:28.000 Mavro St.

01:39:28.000 John says, as a member of the LDS Church, Utah being left-leaning is not at all surprising.

01:39:34.000 They are the most left-leaning religious group.

01:39:36.000 Look into it.

01:39:36.000 Wow.

01:39:37.000 Wow.

01:39:39.000 NOS says, hey, it's my birthday today.

01:39:40.000 I'm officially 21.

01:39:42.000 Can I get a happy birthday?

01:39:43.000 Love you guys.

01:39:44.000 All you guys are heroes to me.

01:39:45.000 Happy birthday, NOS.

01:39:47.000 Happy birthday.

01:39:48.000 Happy birthday.

01:39:50.000 Big day.

01:39:50.000 Big year for birthdays.

01:39:51.000 Yeah, I know.

01:39:52.000 I say that every year.

01:39:53.000 Everyone's happy this year.

01:39:54.000 It's crazy.

01:39:55.000 What is it?

01:39:56.000 The Wrong Writer says, love Graf Ian's Freudian slip last night.

01:40:00.000 He said meta-virgins.

01:40:02.000 Also, shout out to Mythical Vigilante.

01:40:04.000 He got me addicted to your show.

01:40:05.000 He's a good musician.

01:40:06.000 Check out his music.

01:40:07.000 That's funny.

01:40:07.000 I said meta-virgins.

01:40:09.000 Meta-virgins is also very funny.

01:40:14.000 All right.

01:40:15.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:40:16.000 says, Seamus, the first Irish he-him to be on IRL.

01:40:19.000 Props.

01:40:19.000 Those are my pronouns.

01:40:20.000 Thank you for respecting them.

01:40:22.000 Christina H. says, Daily Wire, please make the novel One Second After into a movie.

01:40:27.000 God bless.

01:40:28.000 What is that about?

01:40:28.000 I don't know.

01:40:29.000 One Second After.

01:40:34.000 What is this?

01:40:35.000 Sam Spade says, I joined Klavenon.

01:40:39.000 Klavenon.

01:40:40.000 And feel better than I have in years.

01:40:42.000 You can too, by the truth and beauty, save the Klaven. 0.99

01:40:45.000 That's right.

01:40:47.000 Ryan Crabtree says, Ian, read Ayn Rand non-fiction and other objectivists, such as Lennard Paykoff.

01:40:53.000 Learn to distinguish between the metaphysical and the man-made.

01:40:56.000 You're saying no, Andrew?

01:40:58.000 Don't do it.

01:40:59.000 Why would you think not to do it?

01:41:01.000 Because I think Ayn Rand was, Well, I really think she was a psychopath in some ways, but I think she was a terrible novelist. 0.99

01:41:11.000 And B, her philosophy is ridiculous. 0.95

01:41:14.000 You make me want to read it even more now. 0.98

01:41:15.000 When I was in my life.

01:41:17.000 Go ahead.

01:41:18.000 I've noticed that reading and listening, they write information on my brain differently.

01:41:21.000 I feel like when I read something, it like directly interfaces my brain with it.

01:41:24.000 It was in my libertarian phase and I purchased a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

01:41:26.000 I just couldn't do it.

01:41:27.000 I've noticed that reading and listening, they write information on my brain differently.

01:41:31.000 I feel like when I read something, it like directly interfaces my brain with it.

01:41:34.000 When I'm listening, I can kind of shut it out easier.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, I guess so.

01:41:39.000 I actually, I feel like I remember things when I listen a little better, but I love to read.

01:41:44.000 I mean, I just love to, because it's just direct communication with your head, you know?

01:41:49.000 All right.

01:41:50.000 Cyrus Nerschel says, Hey, Timcast was trying to find the Spin the UFO email but couldn't find it anywhere.

01:41:56.000 I've been in IT for 13 years and the DoD is active duty, government, civilian and contractor, but I would like to send in my resume if possible.

01:42:03.000 Keep up the good work.

01:42:04.000 Was it spintheufo at gmail.com?

01:42:05.000 That's correct.

01:42:06.000 I have a lead on this book.

01:42:07.000 I will write this down.

01:42:08.000 One second after.

01:42:10.000 This is about a man struggling to save his family in his small North Carolina town after America loses a war.

01:42:16.000 Ooh, interesting.

01:42:17.000 Oh, cool.

01:42:17.000 Sends America back to the Dark Ages.

01:42:19.000 All right, AC gaming says I think Elon Musk possibly bought stakes in Twitter based on him integrating it with neuralink

01:42:26.000 My worry is governments will get their hands involved and leave back doors to paralyze you in scenarios in people

01:42:32.000 becoming fugitive What are your guys thoughts on this read the software code?

01:42:36.000 Are you gonna join the metaverse?

01:42:38.000 Are you going to get the Neuralink implant and plug your brain in?

01:42:42.000 Oh, no.

01:42:43.000 But if they're good games, I might go on.

01:42:46.000 I'm not against the Metaverse as a tool, just like I'm not against the Internet as a tool, but I think everything can be used badly.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, but getting an implant to like plug your brain in.

01:42:59.000 Yes, and also being on it for more than like a half hour a day.

01:43:02.000 You know, I mean, just the idea that you're going to live on this thing is bad.

01:43:06.000 But if you could, what's your favorite fictional, what's your favorite kind of fiction genre?

01:43:11.000 The novel, you know?

01:43:14.000 Sci-fi, fantasy?

01:43:15.000 It would probably be mysteries.

01:43:17.000 If you could plug in your brain and be the detective in the mystery, actually experiencing the crime and the villains, would you do it?

01:43:26.000 I would do it for half an hour, you know?

01:43:28.000 Because I'd want to come back to real life, because I think real life is really rewarding.

01:43:32.000 But I mean, would you get the surgically implanted It's hard for me to imagine doing that.

01:43:38.000 I remember taking a friend to get a minor piece of plastic surgery and thinking, I will never get elective surgery.

01:43:46.000 I agree.

01:43:47.000 I think in order for it to become feasible, they'll need wireless of some sort.

01:43:51.000 Sure.

01:43:51.000 I put a plug in my ear.

01:43:53.000 Like you put on a cap and then it broadcasts into your brain, but I, I, unless we, we start, I just, I don't see surgical anything working for people because people don't like surgery.

01:44:03.000 Not mainstream.

01:44:04.000 Yeah.

01:44:04.000 It'll be for people that have already like spinal injuries and stuff that are willing to see if they can learn how to walk again.

01:44:08.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 I mean, maybe when they get to the point where Neuralink can actually put you in a universe and you can be a superhero, people might be willing to do it.

01:44:17.000 I don't know why you would do that if it's not real.

01:44:19.000 Like, I feel the same way about ayahuasca, by the way.

01:44:21.000 If, like, you can take a drug that makes you see Mickey Mouse, that doesn't mean Mickey Mouse is real.

01:44:25.000 If you take a drug that makes you see God, why would that be an experience?

01:44:29.000 I think of it as, like, tuning the brain frequency to see what's already there.

01:44:33.000 But are you?

01:44:33.000 How do you know who you are?

01:44:35.000 I don't know, but that's what it seems like.

01:44:37.000 I'm not sure.

01:44:38.000 The reason I said free the software code was because if we can free the software code of Twitter and of the neural net tool, then you can watch what it's doing algorithmically, free software code being AGPL3 as the license.

01:44:49.000 Interesting.

01:44:50.000 And then if people want to take it and make a better version, that'll also be AGPL3.

01:44:53.000 You'll be able to witness it.

01:44:54.000 So when the government comes in and tries to steal data, you'll see the algorithm where it's giving the data and what's being given.

01:44:59.000 That's an interesting idea, yeah.

01:45:02.000 All right, Richard says, Tim, you often say people are cowards.

01:45:04.000 Klavan came out as conservative and lost millions from Hollywood.

01:45:08.000 Klavan didn't have support then, but with Daily Wire and Timcast coming together, y'all are the future.

01:45:13.000 Well, we've been talking to Daily Wire about shows.

01:45:17.000 We had Dallas Sonnier.

01:45:19.000 Sonnier, is that how you pronounce it?

01:45:21.000 Sonnier.

01:45:21.000 And he was like, we'd love to do some kind of show with you guys, because it would be such a powerful, you know, Thing and I'm like we got a bunch of ideas for shows.

01:45:29.000 We're trying to make yeah, I'd be absolutely fantastic Andrew What was it like breaking out of Hollywood?

01:45:33.000 What was that like?

01:45:34.000 I was thrown out of Hollywood.

01:45:41.000 My salary, my income went from high six and seven figures to nothing almost overnight when I came out as a conservative.

01:45:50.000 My phone stopped ringing like that.

01:45:53.000 I was not a big deal but I was selling scripts routinely and if you sell two scripts, three scripts a year, which I sometimes did, you're making a lot of dough.

01:46:03.000 I don't know.

01:46:05.000 Funnily enough, it didn't bother me.

01:46:06.000 I mean, obviously it bothered me economically.

01:46:08.000 I had to sell my house and things like that. 0.98

01:46:09.000 But it didn't bother me emotionally because I thought, I'm not going to live my life not saying what I mean because some fat jackass in Hollywood. 0.97

01:46:18.000 I don't like it, you know. 0.96

01:46:19.000 What kind of life would that be?

01:46:20.000 You should write that metaverse story I told you about.

01:46:22.000 Yeah, now you gave it to me.

01:46:23.000 I'm stealing it, of course.

01:46:24.000 Oh, no.

01:46:25.000 I was writing it during the show.

01:46:26.000 We'll sign a deal.

01:46:27.000 I looked over his shoulder.

01:46:28.000 There's like a lot of grammatical errors.

01:46:29.000 I can't believe that this guy was in Hollywood for so long.

01:46:30.000 Are you sure it was the conservatism?

01:46:31.000 All right, here we go.

01:46:32.000 Colin Stevens says, Tim, Thomas Sowell vehemently disagrees about systemic racism existing.

01:46:44.000 Perhaps you should get him on to have this conversation.

01:46:46.000 Oh, would it not be amazing?

01:46:49.000 I mean, he is the smartest man in the country.

01:46:52.000 But I'll clarify my point because I think there may be a semantic issue.

01:46:57.000 When I say systemic racism, what I'm referring to is because of things like blockbusting and redlining, you now have deeply impoverished areas in Chicago.

01:47:08.000 That makes it very difficult for the people who live there to transfer wealth to their kids because homeownership is one of the principal ways by which the middle class transfers wealth to their children.

01:47:16.000 Yeah, but why is it that everybody who came here got nailed in some way?

01:47:22.000 Well, this was going on until the 80s.

01:47:26.000 I'm actually not sure of that.

01:47:28.000 The New York Times, oddly enough, did a piece about how some of what was called redlining was actually just economic reality.

01:47:36.000 People didn't want to give loans to people who weren't going to pay them back.

01:47:39.000 Blockbusting was happening until it was made illegal.

01:47:42.000 You know what blockbusting was?

01:47:43.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:47:44.000 That really messed up.

01:47:45.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 And the reality is... Well, listen, nobody's gonna argue about there was racism in this country.

01:47:52.000 Right, right, right.

01:47:52.000 But the market's still racist.

01:47:54.000 So, let me ask you, I mean, in all honesty, if a black family moved into a neighborhood, what is your expectation of property markets?

01:48:03.000 Well, wait a minute, though.

01:48:04.000 You should read Helen Andrews on this.

01:48:06.000 She wrote a book called Boomers.

01:48:07.000 It's really interesting on this.

01:48:08.000 If a black doctor moved into my neighborhood, I don't think anybody would notice. 0.99

01:48:13.000 You know, I mean, I literally think that would be like, you know, come on over, you know, for lunch. 0.64

01:48:19.000 If like, you know, a bad guy moved in or somebody who was not, did not fit in that neighborhood economically or in terms of class, then you'd have a problem.

01:48:27.000 I mean, people, you know, Helen's argument is that there was no white flight.

01:48:32.000 There was flight from crime.

01:48:34.000 And a lot of times, you know, when neighborhoods changed over, they became more criminal and

01:48:38.000 people left, you know.

01:48:40.000 So I don't know.

01:48:41.000 Like I said, if a, you know, Sidney Poitier moves in next door, is anybody going to leave?

01:48:47.000 So my view on this is it's a class-based issue today.

01:48:52.000 It was race-ruled before.

01:48:53.000 No question.

01:48:55.000 So when I refer to systemic racism, I just mean that in the past several decades, there were overtly racist policies that made it harder for the black community and other racial minorities to transfer wealth, and now they're disproportionately impoverished based on those things, even though it's a class issue today.

01:49:09.000 But again, that happened to other races.

01:49:12.000 Absolutely.

01:49:13.000 Once it was stopped, they rose very quickly.

01:49:16.000 I really do believe if the Democrats would just stop helping black people, they would get out of office. 0.99

01:49:20.000 I don't know if they're trying to help.

01:49:23.000 I genuinely, I mean, look, being from Chicago, seeing that Democrat rule has done, it's been a disaster.

01:49:28.000 Unemployment insurance is insane.

01:49:30.000 You can't get a job or you lose it.

01:49:32.000 So it's enticing people to not work.

01:49:34.000 That's crazy.

01:49:36.000 And you know, that was the other thing.

01:49:37.000 Clinton's welfare reform really was great.

01:49:39.000 It actually helped people get jobs and then Obama gutted it. 0.84

01:49:43.000 Robbie Hammer says, come on, Tim, being poor isn't an excuse to commit violent crime against another human.

01:49:48.000 It is 100% a cultural issue.

01:49:49.000 Andrew was spot on.

01:49:51.000 I don't disagree.

01:49:51.000 I think if people are growing up in poor, broken communities, they're more likely to have a bad culture than people who are growing up.

01:49:59.000 Yeah, that's, that's absolutely true.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:01.000 So, you know, I, I think there's, there's great nuance to this, but I certainly think culture plays a very serious role for sure.

01:50:06.000 All right.

01:50:09.000 Let's grab some more subjects.

01:50:12.000 Let's see.

01:50:12.000 Sliver Bach Slips says, I think there's systemic racism in old unused laws.

01:50:18.000 None are practiced now.

01:50:20.000 We still have laws that allow loving on goats and men are allowed to hit their wives Sundays on the courthouse steps. 0.74

01:50:26.000 Is that true?

01:50:27.000 It can't be true.

01:50:28.000 And maybe, you know, I just learned today that in Virginia, two years ago, they made it legal to have sex before marriage.

01:50:37.000 So some laws are on the books that nobody pays attention to.

01:50:39.000 Well, you know, I've often said the laws don't matter.

01:50:42.000 What matters is cultural enforcement.

01:50:43.000 That's right.

01:50:44.000 That's right.

01:50:45.000 The best example that I think people should really ponder on is in New York City, gender identity is defined as self-expression in the actual laws, which means your self-expression could be a furry.

01:50:57.000 Right.

01:50:58.000 But I was told by civil rights lawyers, three different ones, when I investigated this, that if you tried claiming a furry as your identity and you wore the outfit and you used the name, you'd be laughed out of the courtroom.

01:51:12.000 But I said, if the law says you can't be discriminated based on the clothes you wear, the name you give yourself, or your self-expression, why is it different for a furry and a transgender person?

01:51:22.000 And they said, because most people understand what gender dysphoria is in a trans person, and furries would not be considered serious.

01:51:27.000 And I said, that's a cultural issue, not a legal distinction.

01:51:30.000 So it's really about cultural enforcement and what our culture is willing to tolerate.

01:51:34.000 Well, that's one of the problems, like when the Supreme Court had that ruling that laws protecting people according to sex, against sex discrimination, covered transgenderism.

01:51:44.000 Because if you walk into work in a dress, you're essentially being penalized for being a man.

01:51:49.000 That, to me, was absurd.

01:51:50.000 That was not what they meant when they wrote the law.

01:51:52.000 You know, you may want to make that law, but it's still not what they meant.

01:51:55.000 CigarsAndCigArms says, Nah.

01:51:56.000 You disagree?

01:51:56.000 Nah, yeah.

01:51:56.000 arms says let's stop pretending that conservatives are blameless on the problem of black men

01:52:00.000 filling our prisons.

01:52:01.000 They have consistently refused to call out bad cops, push for criminal justice reform,

01:52:06.000 and cheer on police brutality.

01:52:07.000 Nah.

01:52:08.000 You disagree?

01:52:09.000 Nah, yeah.

01:52:10.000 I mean, nobody cheers on police brutality.

01:52:13.000 I think the problem is the media lies so often about all these police brutality stories.

01:52:17.000 It's more that the conservatives just don't care to believe it anymore.

01:52:19.000 Yeah.

01:52:19.000 I mean, like, you know, I do think I do think that when you're a bad guy and you resist arrest and you get killed, it's true that even if the cop did it wrong, which I do think happened with Floyd.

01:52:35.000 I don't have that much sympathy for you.

01:52:37.000 You're still a guy who held a gun to a pregnant woman while your friends ransacked her house.

01:52:42.000 You're not my favorite guy. 0.74

01:52:43.000 I'm sorry.

01:52:44.000 I've dealt with bad cops.

01:52:46.000 I think the issue for me is these cities have a bunch of Democrats who vote for Democrats, who appoint Democrat police leadership, who are crooked and corrupt, and then the Democrats complain about the people that they voted for.

01:52:59.000 You don't hear about these problems in mostly conservative rural areas.

01:53:03.000 It is amazing that in San Francisco, where I lived many, many years ago, and it was one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been in, it's now a hellhole.

01:53:11.000 It's amazing to me, A, that Republicans don't run, mount a campaign that would appeal to San Franciscans, and B, that San Franciscans don't say, you know what?

01:53:19.000 We keep electing the same party and things get worse and worse and worse.

01:53:22.000 Maybe we should change parties. 0.84

01:53:23.000 There's a stigma that Republicans are anti-gay.

01:53:26.000 Well, where did that come from?

01:53:28.000 Is it seeded propaganda, or did they used to be?

01:53:31.000 No, I think the... After Reagan, there was a coalition of conservatives, some of whom were evangelical, and they were very strongly anti-gay.

01:53:40.000 You know, they very strongly felt that this was a bad thing, biblically, and they couldn't defend it in law.

01:53:47.000 They couldn't say to themselves, well, this may be a sin, but that's between them and God.

01:53:51.000 Or, you know, they just couldn't get there.

01:53:53.000 It was very, very much You know, in keeping with their religion and their way of life.

01:54:02.000 I remember when I first became a conservative, which is now back around 2000, you know, and Andrew Breitbart said to me, I want you to become part of this movement.

01:54:10.000 And I said, I'm going to become part of the movement, but I don't want to hear about the gay stuff because we're wrong. 1.00

01:54:14.000 You know, we're just wrong about it.

01:54:16.000 You've got to let people live their lives. 0.95

01:54:20.000 I don't know how much I can say on the air here, what your standards and practices are, but Andrew's response was basically, I want there to be more pro-American gay pornography. 0.94

01:54:33.000 I would disagree.

01:54:34.000 I think that what basically happened is you had a lot of Christian conservatives, and not just Christian conservatives, but most of the country at the time, which was saying that marriage is defined as between a man and a woman and federally funded marriage contracts shouldn't change that definition because it's not within the purview of the government. 0.87

01:54:47.000 And so what the left said As a result of that and in response to that was the only explanation for that attitude is hating gay people. 0.81

01:54:54.000 There's that too. 0.89

01:54:55.000 Have you ever heard Tom McDonald?

01:54:56.000 No.

01:54:56.000 Andrew should listen to Tom McDonald especially in God we trust have you

01:55:01.000 ever heard Tommy Donald no has he ever has he ever listened to Frank Sinatra

01:55:07.000 No.

01:55:09.000 Regardless of the music, you'd love his message.

01:55:11.000 Listen, I love Zuby.

01:55:13.000 Zuby's the greatest.

01:55:15.000 Who can't love that guy?

01:55:17.000 Doesn't Tom have a song called, Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings?

01:55:19.000 I think so.

01:55:20.000 Sounds right.

01:55:20.000 Oh yes, I did hear that.

01:55:21.000 Yeah, we all gotta be glad.

01:55:23.000 But does he rap as fast as Ben Shapiro would on that track?

01:55:27.000 I gotta be honest, I think Ben could probably rap faster than most rappers.

01:55:30.000 Has anybody ever heard him do WAP?

01:55:32.000 It was to me the pinnacle of his career.

01:55:36.000 This is actually why everyone should be... Everyone's mad at Ben Shapiro for not liking hip-hop.

01:55:41.000 They should be very glad, because he would dominate the game.

01:55:43.000 He'd be the best freestyle rapper.

01:55:46.000 And he could do it while playing the violin.

01:55:49.000 It would be huge.

01:55:49.000 Big crush.

01:55:52.000 All right.

01:55:53.000 Jacob Manning says, I'm not one to give away my hard earned money, but Tim, since you brought the other half of the first two people that woke up to reality, I'll make an exception.

01:56:01.000 Thank you both for what you do and helping me laugh my way through the fall of the Republic.

01:56:06.000 Well, thank you very much, Jacob.

01:56:08.000 I really appreciate it.

01:56:10.000 Dylan says, classic rap has a lot of libertarian messaging.

01:56:14.000 It does.

01:56:14.000 Absolutely.

01:56:15.000 That's true.

01:56:16.000 Hey, you know, Trump used to be a hero of rappers.

01:56:18.000 I mean, he was in a lot of songs, yeah.

01:56:20.000 JT Reid says, Andrew, have you heard Tom McDonald's song, Blame the Rappers?

01:56:24.000 It goes into how modern rap is responsible for the degeneration of today's youth.

01:56:28.000 Adam Calhoun raps about how hard work got him to his success.

01:56:33.000 Ryan Upchurch raps about his life in Tennessee.

01:56:38.000 Very good stuff.

01:56:40.000 All right.

01:56:41.000 NotReallyMe says, Charlie Daniels, late 70s, long-haired country boy.

01:56:46.000 All right.

01:56:48.000 Glenn says, the best love song.

01:56:49.000 Do you remember Love from Macross the movie?

01:56:52.000 Do you remember Love?

01:56:54.000 Not familiar with it, man.

01:56:54.000 Is everybody just saying the songs they really like?

01:56:57.000 I guess that's what's going on.

01:56:58.000 What's the best song?

01:56:59.000 Superchat it right now.

01:57:00.000 Yeah, tell us.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:01.000 Superchat the best song.

01:57:02.000 Give us money to say what the best song is.

01:57:04.000 Yes.

01:57:06.000 If you can afford it.

01:57:08.000 All right.

01:57:08.000 What is this?

01:57:09.000 What is this?

01:57:12.000 Simulated Dave says, Tim, if you're serious about DW Entertainment envy, I'd love to discuss my short film Crit from 2020 exploring the signatories of the Polanski petition, hoping to encourage conviction in withholding cash from Hollywood.

01:57:25.000 Interesting.

01:57:25.000 You can always email spintheufo at gmail.com.

01:57:28.000 It's the easiest way for like, this one's specifically for people who are watching the show and there's something specific we want to message.

01:57:33.000 Like on our website, we have emails you can message, but that's the one that during the show we remembered to check out.

01:57:41.000 Orange Red says, if you like Andrew, subscribe to The Daily Wire.

01:57:44.000 We are big fans of The Daily Wire.

01:57:45.000 That's correct.

01:57:46.000 I'm excited about the work they're doing.

01:57:49.000 All right, Gabe says, sorry about my name.

01:57:51.000 I don't understand why.

01:57:53.000 Yeah, I didn't read his whole name.

01:57:53.000 Oh, oh, I see, I see.

01:57:55.000 Wow, that's too bad.

01:57:55.000 That's pretty bad.

01:57:56.000 His last name is Itch.

01:57:59.000 Yeah.

01:57:59.000 Why do you guys think that actual good, trustworthy people who could win elections, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, et cetera, won't run?

01:58:05.000 The it's too much criticism argument is selfish to me, and in such an important time.

01:58:10.000 Um, I think for like Jordan Peterson, he's Canadian.

01:58:15.000 Um, I mean, I guess he could run into whatever I want.

01:58:18.000 I actually heard him say he thought he could do more good outside of that system.

01:58:21.000 Exactly.

01:58:22.000 That's what I was going to say.

01:58:23.000 I mean, do you really think Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson would do more good for the world in some political position?

01:58:28.000 Think about how much they're helping people right now, doing what they're currently doing.

01:58:31.000 They're clearly very good at it. 0.95

01:58:33.000 Why would you take them and shoehorn them into some position that the most pathetic people in our society usually fill? 0.93

01:58:37.000 And also, doing politics is a skill. 0.88

01:58:42.000 Just because they're brilliant people doesn't mean they have it.

01:58:46.000 People have asked me, why don't you run for something?

01:58:47.000 I'm the last person who should run for something.

01:58:50.000 I can't balance my checkbook. 0.90

01:58:51.000 If I weren't married, I'd be living in a dumpster. 0.99

01:58:57.000 All right.

01:58:58.000 Duade says, if God created the universe, he would have to exist outside it.

01:59:02.000 Those seeking proof assume that he would be bound by the laws of the universe.

01:59:06.000 Computer programmers aren't limited by their own code.

01:59:08.000 Brilliant point!

01:59:09.000 But God is not limited, so God could exist within the universe it created.

01:59:12.000 And I don't like calling it E, either, because I think that's patriarchy.

01:59:15.000 No, no, no.

01:59:16.000 Ian, here we go.

01:59:17.000 No, he isn't.

01:59:18.000 There's not enough time left to argue with that!

01:59:20.000 He is a he. 1.00

01:59:22.000 And he has a long white beard.

01:59:23.000 It's his preferred pronouns.

01:59:23.000 You have to respect them.

01:59:24.000 Let's actually save this for the after show.

01:59:26.000 We'll have a great conversation.

01:59:27.000 I think it'll be fun.

01:59:27.000 We'll have more time.

01:59:28.000 So let's just read a few more of these superchats and name some of the best songs.

01:59:33.000 M169 says, best song is The Greatest Show on Earth by Nightwish.

01:59:37.000 Thank you.

01:59:37.000 Totally Wasn't My Fault says, Stain Alive by the Bee Gees.

01:59:43.000 Sam Ard says, best Libertarian death metal record ever is 1776 by King Conker.

01:59:48.000 Their bassist just passed away.

01:59:50.000 Rest in peace.

01:59:52.000 Seth Klein says, so glad to hear you bring up Handlebars by Flowbots.

01:59:55.000 It depicts current reality perfectly.

01:59:58.000 You see...

01:59:59.000 Andrew, in the song Handlebars by Flowbots, in the music video at the end, there's a guy challenging an authoritarian regime, and all of the jackboot cops banging their shields have Black Lives Matter on their shields.

02:00:10.000 And the song's from, because it's the Communist Fist, it's the Red Salute, but the song is from, I think, like, what is it, 13 years ago or something?

02:00:16.000 14 years ago.

02:00:17.000 So, they make this song, and the bad guys have the Communist Fist, which is now the BLM Fist, and they're killing people, and that's basically what the song is saying, that these people are like, I can do whatever I want, no one can stop me. 0.71

02:00:29.000 Since everybody's telling me what rap music is, I want to tell you what to listen to, alright?

02:00:33.000 You should go out and get two albums, if that's what they call them.

02:00:39.000 One is Ella and Louie, and the other is Ella and Louie again.

02:00:42.000 Best pop records ever made.

02:00:45.000 You know my thing is though, I like music for me, I love political music.

02:00:48.000 Do you?

02:00:49.000 Okay.

02:00:50.000 So, there's some pop songs I might be like, oh yeah, sure, it's fun to play.

02:00:54.000 But I really do like songs that have a message.

02:00:58.000 I've always been critical my whole life of music that was meaningless.

02:01:02.000 I grew up listening to a lot of punk stuff.

02:01:04.000 It started with pop punk and then I listened to more actual punk stuff and then started listening to more independent music and things like that.

02:01:12.000 But I like songs with meaning.

02:01:16.000 Nothing really in between.

02:01:18.000 Either I'm just a silly boppy whatever or it's gonna be something.

02:01:21.000 So like all the stuff that I write has deeper meaning.

02:01:23.000 All the songs that I put together that we're working on.

02:01:25.000 Will of the people!

02:01:27.000 Has anyone said yet, Will of the People?

02:01:29.000 Yes, that's right.

02:01:29.000 Will of the People is the greatest song ever.

02:01:32.000 That's my song.

02:01:33.000 Oh, okay.

02:01:33.000 Is it?

02:01:34.000 Tim actually super chatted that in himself.

02:01:37.000 Oh, Will of the People!

02:01:38.000 You guys gotta listen to that one!

02:01:39.000 That was Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

02:01:41.000 Thank you, Raymond!

02:01:43.000 It's right.

02:01:44.000 Wait, that says Pim Tool on it.

02:01:46.000 What is it?

02:01:47.000 Oh, here's a good idea.

02:01:48.000 Brayden says, y'all should have all guests roll the 100 die and rank them all on a leaderboard, almost like old Top Gear celebrity racetrack laps.

02:01:55.000 That's a good idea.

02:01:56.000 Alright.

02:01:56.000 Here you go, Andrew.

02:01:57.000 100-sided die.

02:01:58.000 So what am I doing here?

02:01:59.000 And there it goes.

02:01:59.000 How do you know what it is?

02:01:59.000 Just roll it.

02:02:00.000 It's on the top.

02:02:01.000 33!

02:02:01.000 That's my number.

02:02:02.000 Big number.

02:02:04.000 We have the one shot on this.

02:02:04.000 There it goes.

02:02:05.000 And, no, I don't think.

02:02:07.000 How do you know what it is?

02:02:08.000 It's on the top.

02:02:09.000 Oh, it's on the top.

02:02:10.000 33.

02:02:11.000 Oh, 33.

02:02:12.000 That's my number.

02:02:13.000 Big number.

02:02:13.000 I rolled a 100.

02:02:15.000 Oh.

02:02:16.000 That was on... That was hard.

02:02:17.000 That was Biden's... during his campaign speech.

02:02:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:02:20.000 Was that when Lorne was drunk?

02:02:21.000 Yeah, I think so.

02:02:22.000 That was fun.

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02:02:45.000 Andrew, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:47.000 Truth and beauty, you know, should pick it up.

02:02:49.000 It actually, it's not written for people who like poetry.

02:02:51.000 It's just written for people who want to look at the world a different way.

02:02:55.000 Cool.

02:02:56.000 You know what?

02:02:57.000 I usually plug Freedom Tunes.

02:02:59.000 Gotta plug something else, though.

02:03:00.000 I'll plug Freedom Tunes, as well.

02:03:01.000 Go check that out.

02:03:02.000 Earlier, I made a dig at Televangelist.

02:03:04.000 Mostly not a fan, but there are some great ones, like the original Televangelist, Fulton Sheen.

02:03:08.000 I'm gonna shout him out.

02:03:09.000 Go check out some Bishop Fulton Sheen videos.

02:03:11.000 They're incredible.

02:03:13.000 What's the best place for people to get your book right now?

02:03:15.000 Amazon is always helpful, because it rises up the ranks when you buy it, and that's good for me.

02:03:18.000 And I want to shout out your Twitter, too.

02:03:19.000 Andrew Claven on Twitter.

02:03:20.000 All right.

02:03:21.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:03:21.000 Great to meet you.

02:03:22.000 It's a pleasure.

02:03:22.000 It was really nice meeting you guys.

02:03:23.000 Ian Crossland.

02:03:24.000 Catch you guys later.

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02:03:34.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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