Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Jury FAILS To Convict Whitmer Defendants, Narrative CRUMBLES w-Auron MacIntyre

00:00:00.000 So, uh, the other day we learned that the third trial, a bench trial in the January

00:00:13.000 6th case was an acquittal because this dude was like, yo, your honor, this cop led me

00:00:19.000 And the judge was like, look at that, the cop let him in.

00:00:20.000 And then there you go, case dismissed.

00:00:22.000 The guy's acquitted of basically everything.

00:00:24.000 Well, of course, many on the left were still pretending like that never happened, and now we have another story.

00:00:30.000 So you know those guys that were accused of trying to kidnap Whitmer?

00:00:32.000 Yeah, well, uh, two of them have been acquitted, and the others have received a mistrial, so that whole narrative is imploding.

00:00:40.000 The narrative there is basically that these guys were claiming they were just stoned and talking BS, and these feds were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all real, it's all real, and then brought that to a criminal trial.

00:00:51.000 But of course, I don't know if it really matters because the media got their narrative of the evil far-right trying to kidnap a governor, which turns out to be mostly bunk.

00:00:59.000 So we'll talk about all that.

00:01:01.000 And we have this tweet.

00:01:02.000 It was from the guys over at Mythicist.

00:01:04.000 It's a Bill Maher episode from, I think, 2019, where Dennis Prager is saying that the left is lying, men can't menstruate. 0.98

00:01:12.000 And everyone on the show laughs at him, and Bill Maher says, you're crazy.

00:01:16.000 So considering the laws that are being passed, we have the governor of Alabama just signed a law banning medical intervention for children if they are deemed trans by a doctor.

00:01:27.000 I want to show proof that Dennis Prager was right, and I think we got to call out Bill Maher a little bit.

00:01:34.000 Look, I know a lot of people are happy that he calls out the left when he does, but if the dude actually did cursory Google searches on half this stuff, It would be a whole nother ballgame.

00:01:47.000 You'd have people being like, wow, you know, I watched that guy and he's informed me, but he doesn't.

00:01:51.000 A week after Covington, Bill Maher still got the story wrong when everyone else had already corrected.

00:01:56.000 So no leeway from me on what's going on with him.

00:02:00.000 But we'll talk about all that.

00:02:02.000 Layoffs are expected at CNN and other networks because it's a big merger.

00:02:05.000 Food riots and fuel riots in Peru already because I expect things to get pretty bad.

00:02:11.000 So we'll talk about that and then maybe we'll get to it.

00:02:13.000 Will Smith has been banned from the Oscars, but that's not really what I really care about.

00:02:16.000 What I care about is a story that apparently his wife was like saying she cried when she got married because she didn't want to marry him.

00:02:22.000 Yeah, talk about a creepy story.

00:02:23.000 What a horrible thing to say about your husband.

00:02:26.000 We'll get into all of this and joining us to talk about this is Oren McIntyre.

00:02:30.000 How's it going, man?

00:02:31.000 Hey man, thanks for having me.

00:02:32.000 I appreciate it.

00:02:33.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:02:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:35.000 I run a YouTube channel, Oren McIntyre, you can just search it up over there.

00:02:39.000 I do a lot of explaining of political theory and then interviews, you know, news of the day, that type of stuff, too.

00:02:46.000 But it's mostly about political theory.

00:02:48.000 And then I make memes on Twitter, which is what a lot of people know me from.

00:02:51.000 Well, there we go.

00:02:52.000 You want to do me a favor?

00:02:52.000 Can you throw that on the shelf behind you?

00:02:55.000 There you go.

00:02:56.000 Also, Magic the Gathering player, if I'm not mistaken, we were talking a little bit before the show.

00:02:59.000 Oh, see, now you're outing me, but yeah.

00:03:01.000 A little black and red.

00:03:02.000 It's true.

00:03:03.000 Magic the Gathering player.

00:03:04.000 Seamus is instantly offended.

00:03:05.000 That's right. 0.67

00:03:06.000 I was like, get out of here, all of you bunch of nerds! 0.94

00:03:08.000 Witchcraft.

00:03:08.000 Seamus plays green.

00:03:09.000 It's not just witchcraft.

00:03:10.000 It's nerds.

00:03:10.000 You guys are nerds.

00:03:11.000 As I tell people, my parents didn't let me read Harry Potter, not because of the demonic elements.

00:03:16.000 They just didn't want me to be a nerd.

00:03:17.000 They wanted me to be one of those Harry Potter kids.

00:03:18.000 And thank goodness for that.

00:03:19.000 Didn't want you to get shoved in a locker, and you appreciate that.

00:03:22.000 Exactly.

00:03:23.000 They're like, this kid doesn't need any help getting bullied.

00:03:25.000 No, no, no.

00:03:25.000 We're not letting them read Harry Potter.

00:03:27.000 Bro, based on this generation, I'd argue you were more likely to get bullied for not reading it.

00:03:30.000 The bully would be like, what did you think of Snape?

00:03:33.000 They're like, what house are you?

00:03:34.000 This guy's not a Gryffindor. 0.99

00:03:36.000 I was like, oh, shut up. 0.98

00:03:39.000 I am Seamus Coghlan. 0.98

00:03:40.000 I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:03:42.000 We do animated political satire.

00:03:43.000 We upload a new video every Thursday.

00:03:45.000 We just uploaded one this past Thursday.

00:03:46.000 I think you guys are really going to enjoy it.

00:03:48.000 We might get wild and upload two next week.

00:03:50.000 I don't know.

00:03:51.000 We'll see.

00:03:52.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

00:03:53.000 He speaks the truth.

00:03:54.000 Ian Croson, what's up, everybody?

00:03:55.000 Catch you soon.

00:03:56.000 Yeah, I'm very excited.

00:03:58.000 Seamus' Freedom Tunes is awesome, and we're gonna be in Nashville next week, and Aaron is fantastic.

00:04:02.000 It's gonna be a great evening.

00:04:03.000 Let's get going.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, actually, right after the show tonight, we're running out the door, driving straight to Nashville.

00:04:09.000 We've got the Mobile Command Center already on the way, and we're gonna be parked in their parking lot for the next week.

00:04:14.000 with a variety of their talent, and there's a whole lot of crazy stuff we're planning.

00:04:18.000 We'll see how much we can actually pull off, but it'll be a lot of fun.

00:04:21.000 We're going to have a lot of people from The Daily Wire on the show next week.

00:04:23.000 It's going to be Tim Kast live from The Daily Wire in Nashville, so we'll see you then.

00:04:28.000 But for now, let's jump over to TimKast.com.

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00:05:09.000 Let's read the first story here from TimCast.com.

00:05:13.000 Breaking!

00:05:14.000 Two men accused of Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot found not guilty.

00:05:18.000 Two others received mistrial.

00:05:20.000 The jury deliberated for five days following a two-week trial.

00:05:23.000 I'm going to mention, on April 8th, the jury found Daniel Harris not guilty of one charge of kidnapping conspiracy, one count of conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, one count of possession of an unregistered destructive device, one count of possession of an unregistered short-barreled rifle.

00:05:38.000 Harris was the only one of the four defendants who testified in his own defense.

00:05:42.000 Brandon Caserta, who was charged with one count of kidnapping conspiracy, was also found not guilty.

00:05:46.000 The jury declared a mistrial on the charges brought against Barry Croft Jr.

00:05:49.000 and Adam Fox.

00:05:50.000 The charges include kidnapping conspiracy, conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction, and possession of an unregistered destructive device.

00:05:56.000 The U.S.

00:05:57.000 government claimed the men had been planning to kidnap Whitmer at her vacation home prior to the 2020 election and arrested them in October of 2020.

00:06:05.000 All four men have denied the government's accusations.

00:06:07.000 Didn't it turn out that the majority of people involved in this were feds or some kind of informant?

00:06:14.000 It wasn't even like an actual plot?

00:06:16.000 Let me show you this from the Daily Mail.

00:06:18.000 They say how undercover FBI agents infiltrated militia group Wolverine Watchmen to try to take down Gretchen Whitmer's kidnappers.

00:06:27.000 They say, what do they call it, stoned talk?

00:06:30.000 They said it was nothing but stoned talk that the government turned into a real conspiracy.

00:06:36.000 Wow.

00:06:37.000 Schwerz and Bates both testified at trial.

00:06:39.000 So look, without getting into, you know, hashing out the entirety of the trial, the story's been, I think for most people, fairly obvious.

00:06:47.000 As soon as they said, yeah, it was a bunch of FBI agents that seem to have been orchestrating the whole thing and then blaming these guys who are bumbling along for the FBI's own plan.

00:06:58.000 Along with this story, and the story about January 6th, where the third trial, this guy was like, the cops opened the door and let me in.

00:07:05.000 The judge went, yeah, the video shows the cops opened the door and let you in.

00:07:08.000 Not guilty.

00:07:09.000 The media narrative on, what, insurrection, the rise of the far right, it's all just bunk BS.

00:07:16.000 Bunk BS.

00:07:17.000 Panel, would you agree?

00:07:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I would tend to agree.

00:07:20.000 The entire narrative started falling apart a couple months ago, and honestly, when it was first reported as a story, I remember watching my television, regrettably, checking Twitter, saying, wow, this is really horrible.

00:07:30.000 And for the people who are actually committing legitimate acts of violence and breaking in, yes, that's bad.

00:07:35.000 I think we all agree that's criminal.

00:07:36.000 But I should have known that the media was spinning this, trying to make it out to be something it wasn't.

00:07:41.000 They started to refer to it as An insurrection, which is interesting because it's an insurrection where basically no one who went, the vast majority of people, didn't have weapons on them to try to overthrow the government.

00:07:51.000 Just a very bizarre narrative, but I think people were too afraid to question it because they didn't want to seem in support of it because our media has spent so much time calling it a terroristic act.

00:08:02.000 I just tweeted out earlier that I don't trust screenshots, pictures or video anymore.

00:08:05.000 I don't trust it, man.

00:08:06.000 I don't trust the narrative.

00:08:07.000 I don't trust the media. 0.96

00:08:08.000 It's going to be even hard for me to trust people face to face, which I really don't anyway, but man, I don't want to get tainted on humanity here, but I am not, I'm not buying any of this crap anymore.

00:08:17.000 I hear you, but you're not necessarily getting tainted on humanity.

00:08:19.000 I think it's okay to acknowledge that known liars are known liars and you shouldn't listen to them without having a pessimistic view of humans in general.

00:08:25.000 I think you shouldn't trust cartoonists.

00:08:28.000 Especially political animators.

00:08:30.000 And now, I would disagree.

00:08:32.000 Well, in most instances, that's probably correct, but there are a few good apples, I think.

00:08:37.000 That's exactly what an animator would say.

00:08:38.000 I know, right?

00:08:39.000 Seamus, if you have a bowl of M&Ms and ten of them are poison, take a handful.

00:08:45.000 Not all bad apples?

00:08:47.000 Hold on a second, Tim.

00:08:49.000 First and foremost, M&Ms are all bad. 0.99

00:08:49.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:08:52.000 They're sugary, they'll kill you. 0.99

00:08:53.000 You shouldn't be eating that stuff.

00:08:54.000 What do you think, Lauren?

00:08:55.000 Do you think there's some value to the media narrative at the moment?

00:08:58.000 Well, I think you're in a situation where you obviously had a situation where people wanted to expand the power of the government, where people wanted to expand the power of the security state.

00:09:09.000 You wanted these people to be dangerous.

00:09:12.000 We've seen the fallout from this.

00:09:14.000 They've been purging the military of people who have any kind of connection to Trump, any kind of support.

00:09:19.000 If you were an NRA member, you could be on a watch list if you were in the military because of this and possibly up for being removed.

00:09:28.000 So, I think this is part of a larger interest by those in power to make sure that you have the apparatus that is able to crack down on people.

00:09:37.000 And we hear this all the time from the media, right? 0.93

00:09:39.000 That the biggest national security threat is the white supremacists, these radicals, these crazy QAnon people. 1.00

00:09:49.000 This is constantly being pushed for a reason because it allows you to kind of take that War on Terror apparatus and shift it domestically and I think that you know, this isn't I don't think that that's this is the only part of it But I think that that leads into that narrative for a reason 0.69

00:10:05.000 But you know that the response from many Democrat activist types is just they're flabbergasted.

00:10:10.000 How is it that fascists are getting away with all of this?

00:10:13.000 Because even when it's proven in a court of law to not be true, they just say it is.

00:10:18.000 So I feel like regardless of whether or not the state is empowered by this, they got what they wanted.

00:10:25.000 Hardcore hyper-polarization in this country.

00:10:28.000 The Democrat activists are still going to continue to be radicalized by these fake news stories.

00:10:34.000 The acquittals in the January 6th case and here do nothing to change that.

00:10:38.000 Well, when you control the consensus-making apparatus, there's no reason to back off the story, right?

00:10:44.000 If you continue to push it, it doesn't matter what the facts were at the end of the day, you control the flow of information.

00:10:49.000 And if you can continue to blast that out, then someone who really wants to dig into it can eventually find it.

00:10:55.000 But the vast majority of people aren't going to do that.

00:10:57.000 And so the narrative that is sitting in people's minds is that this went down.

00:11:01.000 Everything went down the way it was originally portrayed.

00:11:04.000 No one goes back and looks at these things years after the fact to figure out if that was actually the case.

00:11:10.000 And they end up taking the win.

00:11:11.000 I was just watching a bunch of documentary on the rise of the Nazi party in 1933.

00:11:15.000 Hitler appointing of Goebbels to be the propaganda and what was he the Enlightenment minister or some crazy title and they just they seized the radio.

00:11:25.000 They took control of it.

00:11:26.000 They shut down over slowly over time first the book burning which is in the schools that the professors were like, hey kids.

00:11:33.000 Don't wait for the government to make this policy.

00:11:36.000 Just go out there and destroy the knowledge now, the non-German stuff. 1.00

00:11:39.000 So the kids were all like, yay, we think we're doing something good.

00:11:41.000 And then when they got a hold of the radio, man, talk about manipulation.

00:11:44.000 They shut down the other channels.

00:11:46.000 You couldn't get anything out in Germany if it wasn't state propaganda.

00:11:49.000 Control of information.

00:11:50.000 But the issue is, even with The internet grants you the ability to manipulate, but also for the opportunity for truth, like people watching this show right now.

00:12:00.000 I think the difference between the people who watch this show versus the people who watch Young Turks is that for TimCast IRL listeners, new information will change their mind.

00:12:08.000 For the Young Turks viewers, new information must be fake news, and they'll completely ignore it.

00:12:13.000 So, like this story, like January 6th, they just act like the revelation didn't happen at all.

00:12:20.000 And so it almost feels like The media narrative is irrelevant at this point.

00:12:26.000 You know, they could say anything, and these people would just be like, we don't care, we'll do whatever you say, no matter what the story is.

00:12:32.000 That's called mass formation psychosis, I think?

00:12:34.000 I guess, yeah, we call it mass formation psychosis.

00:12:36.000 Or cognitive dissonance, there's different ways to describe the mental... Cult?

00:12:40.000 Failure, or yeah, the pitfall.

00:12:42.000 I love these, there was a comic someone posted on Facebook, and it's a woman reading a newspaper, and it says, you know, Russia claims there's no invasion, and she's like, how could people fall for this Russian propaganda?

00:12:52.000 And then there's a guy in a MAGA hat with Q on his shirt watching Tucker Carlson screaming about a bunch of straw man narratives from the left.

00:12:59.000 And I just thought it was so funny.

00:13:00.000 I'm like, this comic is irony.

00:13:02.000 It said US bioweapons labs was one of the things.

00:13:05.000 And I was like, that's not the argument.

00:13:07.000 The argument is biological research labs.

00:13:10.000 They, the left made that up and then got mad about it.

00:13:14.000 And so that comic to me was particularly hilarious because they're mocking the right for being indoctrinated, but the comic itself was indoctrinating them.

00:13:23.000 It's just, it was just pure irony because those arguments were all straw man arguments.

00:13:26.000 They weren't real arguments coming from the right.

00:13:28.000 So I love it when they say, you know, it was Scarborough was, he was referring to, I can't remember, I can't remember exactly what he was talking about, but he called the right a cult. 0.83

00:13:38.000 And it's just like, it's fascinating to me.

00:13:40.000 There's an argument over Trump versus DeSantis, who would be the best person to lead in 2024.

00:13:46.000 But on the left, they're willing to vote for Joe Biden en masse, even though they know it's going to destroy everything.

00:13:52.000 And they completely ignore breaking news facts.

00:13:56.000 And they're wrong on every story.

00:13:58.000 I mean, just go down the list.

00:14:00.000 I think Donald... Someone tweeted.

00:14:01.000 I should pull up the Instagram image.

00:14:03.000 Somebody was pointing out every major story.

00:14:06.000 Russia gate hoax, Covington, Jussie Smollett, Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:14:10.000 Now, add two more to the mix. 0.99

00:14:12.000 The January 6th story.

00:14:13.000 We got an acquittal.

00:14:15.000 The cops let him in.

00:14:15.000 It's not trespassing.

00:14:16.000 Oh, get ready for this wave of narrative implosion.

00:14:20.000 Now the Whitmer story.

00:14:21.000 Two people not guilty and mistrials.

00:14:23.000 The whole thing.

00:14:24.000 Hunter Biden laptop.

00:14:26.000 I'm sorry, man, when they just believe things that are repeatedly debunked, they're a cult.

00:14:32.000 I completely agree.

00:14:33.000 Yeah, I can tell.

00:14:34.000 And this looks very much like a religion to me.

00:14:36.000 I was raised in a religious environment.

00:14:38.000 And while I don't think that that was in any way a cult, you can definitely see some of the overtones.

00:14:42.000 You have your priests, you have your acolytes, you have unforgivable sins, you have original sins, sorry, which is obviously in our instance would be like being white, being male, all of this other stuff that you can't change. 0.93

00:14:53.000 And I would say definitely this extends to women as well because if you are not fully feminist, you are a sinner. 0.98

00:14:58.000 You're cast out.

00:14:59.000 And if you're like Candace Owens, you're cast out as well.

00:15:01.000 It doesn't matter what shade you are.

00:15:02.000 The only thing that matters is connection to this ideology and complete unquestioning devotion.

00:15:08.000 I've got a definition of cult.

00:15:10.000 Uh, this is from Wikipedia.

00:15:11.000 Or this is from, what is this from?

00:15:12.000 Wikipedia, I think.

00:15:13.000 Social group with socially deviant or novel religious, philosophical, or spiritual beliefs and practices.

00:15:19.000 So deviant or novel, meaning new.

00:15:22.000 So the word cult can be, doesn't have to be negative.

00:15:25.000 It's a new idea.

00:15:25.000 It can be a new philosophy that a bunch of people are rallied around.

00:15:28.000 Colloquially, it refers to a group of people who will not have their minds changed by facts and adhere to a group structure regardless of reality.

00:15:38.000 Well, I don't think this is a particularly weird thing.

00:15:41.000 I think this is actually very normal, right?

00:15:43.000 Like, your vast majority of societies throughout history have been mediated by some kind of value structure, right?

00:15:48.000 You have to have a coherent cultural understanding of, like, who you are as a people and what your values are.

00:15:55.000 And so you have to have something by which not only people judge their lives and the value of their lives, but also the ways in which they defeat their enemies and climb in social standing.

00:16:05.000 So this stuff, your devotion to this stuff is, yes, it is a way to find meaning, but it's also a way to obtain social status, which is why it's so important to signal your constant agreement with the current thing, right?

00:16:17.000 Because if you're not that person, the person next to you is, and they're going to climb above you.

00:16:22.000 So I think it has a lot of different functions, and I don't think it's anything particularly unique throughout history.

00:16:28.000 We're just seeing it because it doesn't have an explicitly religious nature, because it doesn't have an explicit holy book, or someone at the top who's the pope.

00:16:36.000 We don't treat it that same way, but it has pretty much the same function.

00:16:39.000 I want to show you guys, I think, one of the most infuriating but greatest examples of the failures of the modern media and the left, and it's this clip that myth-informed Milwaukee guys posted.

00:16:53.000 They said, this is from a couple days ago, Dennis Prager is mocked on Bill Maher when he describes the now mainstream leftist belief that men can menstruate.

00:17:03.000 This is from November 2019.

00:17:05.000 Queer theory and critical race theory ideology are so radical and incoherent, one risks looking crazy pointing them out. 1.00

00:17:10.000 I want to play this.

00:17:12.000 Let me get the audio fixed.

00:17:13.000 I always do that.

00:17:14.000 I always have the audio set to the wrong setting.

00:17:16.000 But let me get this audio properly and then... Wing lying.

00:17:19.000 We're talking about degrees... To say that men can menstruate is a lie!

00:17:23.000 And that is now... That is what is said!

00:17:26.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:17:28.000 I never said that.

00:17:29.000 You never heard it, right?

00:17:30.000 Okay.

00:17:31.000 Check it out, folks.

00:17:32.000 Check it out.

00:17:33.000 Anyone who says a man cannot menstruate is considered transphobic.

00:17:38.000 I missed this whole story.

00:17:39.000 Are you kidding me?

00:17:40.000 I did it.

00:17:41.000 Tell me where you're getting this.

00:17:43.000 Just Google it.

00:17:44.000 Can men menstruate? 0.89

00:17:45.000 Who is saying this?

00:17:46.000 You're talking about a very small percent.

00:17:47.000 You're talking about a very small percent of people who are actually powerful mainstream

00:17:52.000 corporate sources like the Daily Beast that said July 12th, 2017, yes, men can have periods

00:17:58.000 and we need to talk about them.

00:17:59.000 I know this is an old story, but it's coming up now with all of the parental rights and

00:18:03.000 education bills.

00:18:05.000 And the fact that this narrative has become so prominent.

00:18:08.000 This article was originally published September 21st, 2016, three years after a major corporate publication that was once part, I believe, of Newsweek, published this ridiculous story.

00:18:21.000 Bill Maher, three years later, still didn't get the memo.

00:18:24.000 His audience laughs.

00:18:25.000 These people do not listen to politics.

00:18:27.000 They have no idea what's going on in this country.

00:18:29.000 They don't read the news, but they all think they're smarter than you, that they all bust out laughing.

00:18:35.000 It is just like the story, I think it was Kierkegaard. 0.51

00:18:38.000 The clown comes on stage, and he says, there's a fire backstage, everyone run!

00:18:42.000 And the whole audience bursts up laughing, thinking it's a joke. 0.62

00:18:45.000 And so it becomes even more frantic, and they laugh even harder.

00:18:47.000 And he said, I think that's how the world will end.

00:18:50.000 Yeah.

00:18:50.000 Seeing this, the reason why I want to highlight this is because if back then people like Bill Maher or Jon Stewart, who had been on hiatus, I suppose, had actually paid attention, like people like Dennis Prager were, maybe they wouldn't be dealing with the insanity they're dealing with now, with the Democrats fleeing the Democratic Party 4-1 in Pennsylvania, the generic congressional ballot being almost four points up for Republicans.

00:19:19.000 And the rest of us wouldn't have to, well, you know, I'll just put it this way.

00:19:22.000 They've done it to themselves.

00:19:24.000 You reap what you sow.

00:19:26.000 At this point, where I am is, there are two distinct moral universes, and theirs has nothing to do with me, because this is a perfect example of when they gave up.

00:19:35.000 Bill Maher, here's what I tweet, has become lazy and sad.

00:19:38.000 Jon Stewart as well.

00:19:39.000 It's crazy to me that they don't do cursory research on topics anymore. 0.99

00:19:42.000 Jon Stewart, just absolutely pathetic. 0.96

00:19:45.000 Not a single Google search, huh? 0.99

00:19:46.000 You can't do that?

00:19:47.000 Yeah, no, this is something that we see very often.

00:19:50.000 I remember back when I first started making cartoons on the internet in 2016 and when I was sort of in a sphere of people who were criticizing the left and the far left, the criticism we often received is that we were just talking about a small niche of leftists who basically only existed on college campuses and were completely out of their minds, but these weren't ideas that it really made much sense to critique because they were never going to enter the mainstream and we were more or less wasting our time.

00:20:13.000 Now that's obviously been proven to be completely false.

00:20:16.000 These very niche, bizarre ideas end up becoming mainstream very quickly.

00:20:19.000 And part of the reason for that is because the left always needs to find a new cause.

00:20:23.000 It's not as if they move the social dial and go, all right, we're done.

00:20:26.000 We're satisfied.

00:20:26.000 We've achieved equality.

00:20:28.000 Now we're going to let you know, we're going to rest and have society exist as it is.

00:20:31.000 They constantly need to push for more and more and more.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, I think that also the poisoning of our food supply and water supply with, like, microplastics and birth control that is being peed into the sewer systems, like, is causing people to go towards this transgender state of being. 1.00

00:20:47.000 And so that also is adding on to the rhetoric.

00:20:51.000 I think that's a myth.

00:20:52.000 I think that's greatly over-exaggerated.

00:20:53.000 I want to see more research.

00:20:54.000 Because we did talk about it.

00:20:55.000 We did talk about it.

00:20:56.000 I think social manipulation, ideological manipulation, I think the fact that you have some people who are The epitome of follower.

00:21:05.000 And they'll just go along with whatever.

00:21:07.000 I mean, how many people watched that episode of Bill Maher and laughed along with him thinking he was the smart one in the room when he was just dead wrong?

00:21:15.000 And they follow along with that for years.

00:21:17.000 And now these stories that were published in the corporate press six, seven years ago are now in the forefront in our schools.

00:21:24.000 Now these are the parents, these liberal parents in Loudoun County, who are now freaking out and voting Republican.

00:21:29.000 These suburban moms who are starting to wake up and freak out because they watch shows like that. 1.00

00:21:34.000 So, I think indoctrination, manipulation, but pure laziness from bad leaders has caused a lot of this.

00:21:40.000 I'll say, in a little bit of defense of Bill Maher, I have a lot of criticism of Bill Maher, but Prager came at him and kind of blindsided him with that data, and neither of them knew could back it up.

00:21:49.000 Bill asked him, where'd you get that data?

00:21:51.000 And Dennis didn't have an answer.

00:21:51.000 Who said that?

00:21:53.000 He didn't say the Daily Beast.

00:21:54.000 He should have quoted the article, if he's going to bring it up.

00:21:58.000 I suppose the issue I had with Dennis is that he was heated when he said it.

00:22:02.000 If he presented it in a more calm demeanor, it wouldn't have elicited the same response.

00:22:07.000 Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you.

00:22:09.000 No, no, I was just gonna say, but yeah, I did a tweet on this and it's very clear that this pattern, right?

00:22:14.000 We see this all the time.

00:22:15.000 It starts with, oh no, this isn't happening.

00:22:17.000 It's not a real thing.

00:22:18.000 And then it goes to, well, maybe it's here and there. 0.57

00:22:20.000 It's a few crazies.

00:22:21.000 And then by the end of it, oh, well, it's good actually, right?

00:22:24.000 And this is the most predictable thing you can imagine.

00:22:26.000 Three years ago, this was a right-wing conspiracy.

00:22:29.000 Now it's something that every major corporation, every major educational institution, and now even the government is saying.

00:22:36.000 This is the most predictable thing in the world.

00:22:38.000 And the amazing thing about this is that Bill Maher, this will not change his priors at all.

00:22:43.000 He will not think for a moment, I was wrong.

00:22:44.000 He did this interview with, I think it was Ben Shapiro recently.

00:22:47.000 And he said, you know, it's not me.

00:22:50.000 I didn't change.

00:22:51.000 The left changed.

00:22:52.000 It never occurs to him for a moment that there is a reason that people keep getting left behind by the left.

00:22:59.000 There is a reason that this keeps occurring.

00:23:01.000 It's a pattern.

00:23:02.000 It's predictable.

00:23:03.000 I've had people ask me to, you know, reach out or people who are connected, you know, saying like, would you want to get in touch with the people at Bill Maher?

00:23:10.000 And I don't want to say too much about it because it's not going to happen.

00:23:13.000 And I wonder if I should try and extend an olive branch in some capacity to talk to the guy because he has said some good things about how woke the left has become.

00:23:20.000 But I'd be directly critical of so much.

00:23:23.000 You know, there was the Ben Shapiro-Malcolm Nance conversation.

00:23:27.000 Yeah.

00:23:27.000 And that was fantastic.

00:23:28.000 And Ben is correct.

00:23:30.000 I don't care about your opinions on policy.

00:23:31.000 I care about if you're talking about facts.

00:23:34.000 And when a conservative comes out and says, here's a thing that is true and here's evidence, I say, OK, that's true.

00:23:41.000 Then they say, here's my opinion on the policy.

00:23:42.000 I say, well, that we can discuss.

00:23:44.000 What's happening now is, a conservative like Ben Shapiro goes on Real Time with Bill Maher and says, here are the facts, and they go, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:23:53.000 And it's like, if you haven't done the research, Bill, how are you hosting this show?

00:23:57.000 So, Ian, I accept your point, especially about Dennis Prager being unable to say, here's where it's happening.

00:24:04.000 I think the issue for Dennis was it was three years beyond the point of this conversation beginning.

00:24:09.000 So the answer was actually every major corporate website, corporate news website, has stated this in some form or another.

00:24:16.000 He pulled a knee in Crossland.

00:24:17.000 Dennis Prager did.

00:24:18.000 He derailed the conversation and then didn't know what he was talking about. 1.00

00:24:21.000 He couldn't back it up, and everyone thought he was an idiot. 1.00

00:24:23.000 But he was right! 1.00

00:24:25.000 But here's what we do, and this is why I'm gonna say it right now.

00:24:28.000 Look, I think Bill Maher's show is just archaic.

00:24:32.000 It's obsolete.

00:24:32.000 The format, for sure.

00:24:34.000 On this show, if someone comes on this show and says it's a lie to say that, you know, men can menstruate, you know what we do?

00:24:40.000 Pull it up.

00:24:40.000 We all have laptops.

00:24:41.000 That's right.

00:24:43.000 And the desktop terminal, like, let's search in real time.

00:24:46.000 It's remarkable to me that Bill Maher still exists in this vacuum.

00:24:49.000 The show's called Real Time?

00:24:50.000 It's called Real Time.

00:24:52.000 Can't take his phone.

00:24:53.000 I mean, even Dennis couldn't have pulled out his phone and been like, there you go.

00:24:56.000 Let's search in real time, Bill.

00:24:58.000 Do you guys even read the news?

00:25:00.000 And you know what I would have said?

00:25:01.000 When they all started laughing?

00:25:02.000 I'd take my phone up, I'd pull it up, and I'd say, there it is, guys.

00:25:05.000 2016, The Daily Beast.

00:25:06.000 Want me to get another article?

00:25:07.000 You mean to tell me I'm the only one on this panel who actually reads the news?

00:25:10.000 Then why do any of you think you should have an opinion on news?

00:25:13.000 Yeah, and also, not to Monday Morning Quarterback Prager here too much, but I would have asked, or I like to think I would have asked, why is that wrong?

00:25:19.000 Why is what I'm saying incorrect?

00:25:20.000 Do you not believe that men can become women? 0.99

00:25:23.000 Because this was a mainstream view on the left, and if that's the case, then why isn't it the case that men can menstruate?

00:25:27.000 When Dennis Prager goes on to say that college dorms for males have tampons, Bill Maher says, that's for their girlfriends!

00:25:36.000 Talk about, you take a guy like Bill Maher, you know what I think?

00:25:40.000 I think he retired.

00:25:41.000 This is, I think we see a lot of this.

00:25:43.000 I think Bill Maher retired in his mind.

00:25:46.000 Yeah, mentally.

00:25:47.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 Like he's like, look, I've been doing this for decades.

00:25:50.000 I'm so exhausted.

00:25:51.000 There's other things I want to do.

00:25:52.000 I'm not going to read the news all day.

00:25:54.000 Just give me the, give me the copy.

00:25:55.000 I'll read it and we'll talk about whatever.

00:25:57.000 Politically incorrect was badass.

00:25:59.000 And then he got, after 9-11, it was like some government clampdown.

00:26:01.000 They were like, he's saying too much, shut him down.

00:26:03.000 And they shut his show down.

00:26:04.000 And I think he changed after that.

00:26:05.000 He was like, whoa, I got a self-censor now.

00:26:07.000 Or I'm going to not make it in this industry.

00:26:09.000 Well, they put him on HBO and the idea was that he didn't have to worry about it.

00:26:13.000 And I used to watch this all the time.

00:26:14.000 I used to watch Daily Show all the time.

00:26:16.000 And I will point this out every time.

00:26:17.000 Jon Stewart praised Project Veritas on more than one occasion.

00:26:21.000 Now he's just woke, yelling at Andrew Sullivan and it's just, all of this stuff is the lowest 0.98

00:26:26.000 of lowbrow garbage. 0.87

00:26:28.000 The reason I bring it up here is because Dennis Prager was correct on this. 0.98

00:26:32.000 PragerU has been leading the charge.

00:26:34.000 Granted, conservative ideology, I don't care.

00:26:36.000 They're correct when they say the left has made the argument.

00:26:39.000 Now they give their counterargument.

00:26:40.000 You can agree with them or disagree with them, but their premise is correct.

00:26:44.000 And people like Bill Maher, people like Jon Stewart, people like Stephen Colbert, have abandoned what they once were supposedly representing,

00:26:50.000 which was reality. Like Colbert said, right? Reality has a liberal bias. Now it's fictional

00:26:57.000 cult world has a liberal bias.

00:26:59.000 And the rest of us are confused as to what these people are reading when they read anything,

00:27:03.000 if they read anything. And that's a really important point.

00:27:05.000 One thing you mentioned earlier is the fact that societies and cultures have always had authority structures and they've always had rules that people are expected to follow.

00:27:11.000 But part of what's so bizarre about this is you basically have rules which are wildly unpopular and historically unprecedented that the left is forcing on everyone else and it is even most people on the left.

00:27:22.000 It's a very small percentage of extremely online individuals who will complain to corporations and make them I gotta stop you.

00:27:30.000 I gotta stop you.

00:27:30.000 They need to censor themselves and change their corporate structuring and advertising why what's wrong because it's

00:27:35.000 around 10% of the population Well, it's increasing it

00:27:39.000 It is absolutely increasing, and I think the idea is spread.

00:27:42.000 But chances are, when you encounter someone who says a man can become a woman, they don't genuinely believe that.

00:27:47.000 I'm not saying that absolves them from saying it.

00:27:49.000 It's actually an even bigger problem because they are being dishonest. 0.97

00:27:52.000 But most people recognize this stuff as ridiculous. 0.83

00:27:54.000 The question is, how do we make them feel comfortable saying that?

00:27:57.000 When I was talking to a friend of mine on Facebook, and I've told this story before, and she all of a sudden started adopting the gender ideology stance.

00:28:06.000 She told me, you know, the whole, she was like, trans women are women, trans men are men.

00:28:11.000 And I said, okay, I don't care if that's your premise. 0.94

00:28:14.000 My question to you then is, I asked her, you would be physically attracted to someone who's biologically female, like a person with a vagina, but who is like, you know, got a beard. 0.99

00:28:23.000 And she was like, I could learn how to do that. 0.97

00:28:26.000 And I was like, that sounds like conversion therapy to me.

00:28:28.000 And she just blocked me. 1.00

00:28:32.000 I feel like a lot of these people are not strong moral leaders.

00:28:37.000 Not everybody is.

00:28:38.000 I feel like many of these people just want to be followers because it's simpler and the logic of their brains is conflicted with the survival aspect of their brain.

00:28:45.000 To fit in with society, I must just say this.

00:28:50.000 Well, and that's extremely insidious because ultimately you either live what you believe or believe what you live as they say.

00:28:56.000 And if you stay silent about the truth for long enough, you do start to believe the lie.

00:29:00.000 So I'm not saying that we're not at risk of people buying into this.

00:29:02.000 We very clearly are.

00:29:03.000 And my view is the exact opposite.

00:29:05.000 We are in danger.

00:29:06.000 But oftentimes conservatives are trying to convince people on these issues when what we need to be doing is help people understand that the thing that they already actually secretly believe is not something that they should be embarrassed or afraid to say.

00:29:18.000 But here's the thing, and you've got to remember this, societies are run by organized minorities.

00:29:23.000 Every time.

00:29:24.000 So saying that it's not everybody on the left, of course it's not.

00:29:27.000 That's not what matters.

00:29:28.000 What matters is who on the left believes it and where they sit in positions of power.

00:29:32.000 There's a reason everyone is adopting this stuff.

00:29:34.000 It's not because they necessarily believe it right away, but eventually they do believe it.

00:29:37.000 I think they do eventually genuinely take it on board.

00:29:40.000 Because they understand this received morality is advantageous in our society.

00:29:45.000 They know that.

00:29:46.000 And so that's why people will do like Tim was talking about.

00:29:48.000 They will go out and they will alter their belief system because the people who are important are telling them what is going to come next, what is going to be signaled as positive, what is going to increase their standing and what's going to make it easier for them to get along, along with what's actually going to be moral.

00:30:02.000 And so saying, oh, just a few people believe it or it's a small minority.

00:30:07.000 If it's the right minority, that's the most dangerous thing possible. 0.77

00:30:09.000 I wouldn't disagree with any of that, but what I would reaffirm is my point that what we have to do in order to combat that is have people speak their minds and speak the truth because it's only going to be powerful if we acquiesce to it.

00:30:21.000 I got this quote here, Darwin.

00:30:24.000 It's not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent.

00:30:27.000 Is that how it goes?

00:30:27.000 But it's the one that is most adaptable to change.

00:30:31.000 Terrifying, but true.

00:30:32.000 Well, have you guys ever seen Idiocracy?

00:30:34.000 Yep.

00:30:34.000 Mike Judge, man.

00:30:35.000 Talk about brilliant.

00:30:36.000 I love the point made in the beginning.

00:30:38.000 Eventually, evolution wasn't rewarding the strongest or the smartest.

00:30:41.000 It was rewarding those who simply reproduced the most.

00:30:46.000 As a species, we have created this sphere of safety where we're untouched from war in the United States for the most part in the past, what, 200 years or 150 years or so?

00:30:58.000 Civil war obviously was bad. 0.93

00:31:00.000 We do have crime, but relative to the rest of the world?

00:31:03.000 We have fat homeless people. 0.96

00:31:05.000 I mean, it's a serious problem in this country.

00:31:07.000 And though we do have poverty, we are extremely wealthy, extremely well-fed, extremely safe.

00:31:14.000 And so this has created that environment that Mike Judge was sort of talking about.

00:31:18.000 Evolution simply rewarding those who reproduce the most.

00:31:21.000 But in this case, it's ideological reproduction.

00:31:23.000 Exactly.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just the ideas that become the most popular that end up governing your society.

00:31:27.000 Now, I'm very optimistic in some sense.

00:31:30.000 I believe that ultimately, in the final, final analysis, the truth wins, but your society has no guarantee of existing forever.

00:31:36.000 In a more like Darwinist, previous iteration of our civilization, less technologically advanced, The strongest and the smartest would survive by nature of their ideology.

00:31:46.000 Working together, having strong families, having strong communities, being armed.

00:31:51.000 Now everything's so safe.

00:31:52.000 The ideology that's becoming more powerful and dominant is deconstructivist, is reductivist.

00:31:59.000 It's a blank slate.

00:32:01.000 It is...

00:32:02.000 It's deconstruction.

00:32:03.000 It's breaking everything apart.

00:32:05.000 Now, that can exist because we're in such a magnificent bubble of wealth and security until they destroy it by deconstructing it.

00:32:13.000 And then it's going to be just pure chaos, man.

00:32:15.000 Like, you know, the food shortages that are coming.

00:32:18.000 The product of electing someone like Joe Biden out of sheer ignorance, resulting in the chaos that we've had over the past year.

00:32:25.000 I am developing the probably highly unpopular opinion, and you're welcome to pitch in on this if you think along the same lines, that we desperately need some form of hardship to make us realize that our imagined difficulties aren't just that.

00:32:37.000 They're completely imaginary.

00:32:39.000 We have much bigger things to worry about.

00:32:40.000 We've just never had to worry or even think about our survival.

00:32:43.000 We don't know where our food comes from.

00:32:45.000 That's a huge problem.

00:32:46.000 We're about to learn.

00:32:47.000 That's troubling.

00:32:47.000 I think it's what we need.

00:32:48.000 That's the amazing thing too, like, uh, I visited farms and growing up in the city, it really was a aha moment when I saw actual production.

00:32:58.000 Right.

00:32:58.000 Because I mean, Illinois has got farms, you know, but people don't even connect the dots of The wheat fields get harvested and then sent to processing, and then it makes its way to a factory, and then it gets turned into food.

00:33:10.000 The first time I watched How It's Made, and they were like, cupcakes!

00:33:14.000 How they're made!

00:33:15.000 And it shows a guy pouring a huge, massive bag of flour into this giant vat, and I'm just like, wow.

00:33:20.000 And then the machine cranking out the cupcakes and sealing the bags.

00:33:23.000 How It's Made is an amazing show.

00:33:25.000 How It's Made is an amazing show.

00:33:27.000 Because people don't recognize supply chain.

00:33:29.000 You go to the store, boom, cupcakes.

00:33:30.000 In a wrapper, you've got no idea how they got there.

00:33:32.000 It grew there.

00:33:33.000 Yep, just blink, there it is.

00:33:33.000 It'd be interesting if you went to the store and on every piece of food you were going to buy, there was a little video under it that was showing you the entire manufacturing process of the piece.

00:33:41.000 Sorry to interrupt you.

00:33:41.000 Oh, no problem.

00:33:43.000 So Machiavelli talked about rule of foxes and rule of lions, right?

00:33:48.000 And your foxes are, you're very clever, quick-witted.

00:33:52.000 They're going to be kind of your liberals.

00:33:53.000 They're going to be the people who are good at combining and coming up with new ideas.

00:33:57.000 And then your lions are going to be kind of your more conservative, patriotic, martial type people.

00:34:03.000 And he said at the beginning, your civilizations are always run by lions because they have to secure safety, you have to make sure you're getting food supply, those kind of things.

00:34:12.000 But over time, as your society gets more complex, you start to see the rise of the foxes because they're able to address these new things, these new problems that are coming up.

00:34:22.000 they're able to make these new combinations and synthesize things.

00:34:25.000 But as your society gets more decadent, as you get further away from the

00:34:28.000 problems that the lions solve, you forget why you had lions in the first place.

00:34:33.000 And your foxes become the dominant ruling class.

00:34:35.000 And we are so far around the bend.

00:34:37.000 We are all foxes, right?

00:34:38.000 Everyone in charge right now is a college grad.

00:34:41.000 They've never been in the military.

00:34:42.000 They've never farmed.

00:34:43.000 They don't know anything about this stuff.

00:34:44.000 Food shows up at their table.

00:34:46.000 Truck drivers bring it to them.

00:34:47.000 They never give it a second thought.

00:34:49.000 Of course the world's safe.

00:34:50.000 We're America.

00:34:51.000 We can conquer anything.

00:34:52.000 And so they don't think about what happens when you can no longer just work your way out of this by being clever.

00:34:58.000 What happens when the rubber meets the road?

00:35:00.000 And you know what lions do?

00:35:03.000 Lion sleep.

00:35:05.000 They sleep most of the day.

00:35:06.000 Mm-hmm.

00:35:06.000 Lionesses, I guess, are the ones who actually do work, but the male lions just sleep.

00:35:11.000 And it kind of feels like that's what it is.

00:35:13.000 The foxes have started conniving, started scheming and taking things,

00:35:17.000 while the lion looks around and he's like, hey Simba, all that the sun touches is ours.

00:35:24.000 I'm going to bed.

00:35:25.000 And then the foxes run in and just start controlling everything and the lions don't pay attention.

00:35:28.000 They sleep to conserve their energy for the hunt or something?

00:35:31.000 No, they just sleep.

00:35:33.000 The lionesses do the hunting.

00:35:34.000 Yeah, the dudes basically get up, eat, bang, and go to sleep. 0.99

00:35:37.000 So Kamala Harris, she's the lioness in this equation? 1.00

00:35:39.000 I don't know.

00:35:40.000 She's probably the hyena. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Yeah, if we're doing Lion King, she's definitely a hyena. 0.99

00:35:47.000 Is it too far gone?

00:35:50.000 I think the system's going to have to go through some serious hard times and probably a little bit of collapse before people realize the issue.

00:35:57.000 I think that we've been trained to believe that experts are the key, right?

00:36:01.000 You've got to have an expert for everything.

00:36:02.000 You need to have a person who has a particular degree and has enough doctorates, enough credentials, and they're the ones that solve everything.

00:36:08.000 Everything is solvable through this kind of managerial scientific system.

00:36:14.000 But it's not.

00:36:14.000 And at the end of the day, there are certain things that have to be done physically in the real world.

00:36:19.000 It's not just always ideas that solve these problems.

00:36:22.000 And I think until people taste some of the difficulty that comes from a society that's entirely based on kind of fox governors, they're never gonna realize the problem.

00:36:32.000 Perhaps.

00:36:33.000 But it's also possible that we can succeed in all of this by doing literally nothing.

00:36:38.000 Why?

00:36:38.000 Well, as I mentioned, they are tearing everything down, and the strong are the ones who are going to figure things out and survive.

00:36:44.000 The left likes to make fun of the fact that we promote emergency food, but in the event you actually need it, it's not even going to be us that's laughing.

00:36:51.000 It's going to be the preppers in the mountains with a 30 years worth of beans calling us amateurs.

00:36:56.000 But they can live in their cities with no food supply, no understanding of it, as everything falls apart.

00:37:00.000 But maybe We just have to do very little but remain resilient.

00:37:05.000 We have this story from Daily Mail.

00:37:06.000 Breaking!

00:37:07.000 Discovery completes its merger with WarnerMedia and acquires the rights for CNN, HBO, and Warner Bros.

00:37:14.000 content as staff fear bloodbath of layoffs.

00:37:18.000 Uh, well, okay.

00:37:20.000 Well, all right.

00:37:21.000 Yeah, let's uh, should we get the cake now or should we wait until they start laying people off?

00:37:24.000 Because CNN plus also guys, can I just make an announcement here?

00:37:28.000 So CNN plus launched on day one.

00:37:32.000 They cut their price subscription in half.

00:37:34.000 Yep.

00:37:35.000 A day later, there was reporting that CNN was expecting layoffs because the signups were so abysmal.

00:37:42.000 Now, I don't know how many signups they got.

00:37:43.000 I don't know how much money they made.

00:37:44.000 I assume it was bad.

00:37:45.000 I just want to say, in one month, Chicken City has 21,000 subscribers, and today we had six chicken parties.

00:37:55.000 We are on track for year one of Chicken City to make $100,000+.

00:38:01.000 Those are golden chickens. And as I stated, a man who watches Chicken City is more more informed and

00:38:07.000 better informed than a man who watches CNN. Correct. Now I'm half kidding. Like it is funny

00:38:11.000 to mention that our chicken live stream is doing so well.

00:38:13.000 There's a real value to it and that pet people like putting their their pets in front of it. People

00:38:17.000 like super chatting and they use Chicken City as a chat room basically throughout the day to talk

00:38:21.000 about a lot of ideas from this show even.

00:38:23.000 But I ultimately just want to get to the point where CNN is crumbling.

00:38:28.000 These networks are failing.

00:38:30.000 Their ratings are in the gutter.

00:38:32.000 Our ratings are improving every day.

00:38:34.000 Look at the Daily Wire.

00:38:35.000 These guys are making over a hundred million dollars per year now.

00:38:38.000 It's just, it's an explosion.

00:38:41.000 And we're looking at sentiment.

00:38:43.000 When the left, these activists, try saying things like the right is, the Republican is minority rule.

00:38:49.000 It's just, you know what?

00:38:52.000 Moderate voters side with Republicans on most issues two to one right now.

00:38:55.000 You look at all of the data.

00:38:56.000 You look at Black Lives Matter. 0.98

00:38:57.000 You look at the Democrats.

00:38:58.000 You look at inflation.

00:38:58.000 You look at the economy.

00:38:59.000 You look at gas.

00:39:00.000 It's all like 60% independents are, you know, on the same side as Republicans.

00:39:05.000 And they think they're the majority?

00:39:07.000 Yeah.

00:39:08.000 They're spiraling out of control.

00:39:10.000 Their companies are crumbling.

00:39:11.000 And we only need to keep steering our ship, focusing on building and developing cultural content, media content, websites, and I think we'll be alright.

00:39:21.000 No, I think you're absolutely correct.

00:39:22.000 I've brought this stat up on the show before, but more Americans would rather we look into the 2020 BLM riots and investigate those than support the January 6th Commission.

00:39:33.000 It's because a bunch of buildings got destroyed in that thing.

00:39:36.000 And a lot of people got killed.

00:39:38.000 How about when the Republicans take over in November, we launch the BLM committee?

00:39:42.000 The BLM Investigatory Committee.

00:39:43.000 They should.

00:39:44.000 I'm open, man, but I am so done with the witch hunts.

00:39:46.000 I do not think that is the way forward.

00:39:48.000 Wrong.

00:39:49.000 Then they're gonna cast a spell on you, Ian.

00:39:51.000 Wrong. 0.99

00:39:52.000 Must we burn the witches, Seamus? 0.99

00:39:54.000 Wrong, Ian. 0.63

00:39:55.000 When they come out and levy a whole bunch of fake investigations and put Kyle Rittenhouse through the ringer for two years, basically, or a year, Solitary.

00:40:06.000 When they put the J6 defendants through the solitary confinement, effectively torturing them, and now we're saying, oh, what's that? 0.98

00:40:11.000 Acquittals?

00:40:12.000 Look, some people rioted.

00:40:13.000 They're gonna go to jail for that.

00:40:14.000 That's, that I understand, and they should.

00:40:16.000 Many of these people were bumbling around confused, and they lock them up for how long?

00:40:20.000 They raided a woman, I think it was in Alaska, she was the wrong person.

00:40:24.000 So then all of a sudden the Republicans take over and Ian, people like you say, it's time to end the witch hunts.

00:40:29.000 And the Democrats go, good, good, good.

00:40:31.000 Because when you ask for freedom, uh, when I asked for freedom, you give it to me because it's according to your principles.

00:40:38.000 But, uh, what, what, what, what's the saying?

00:40:40.000 Actually, it's like when, when doing Frank Herbert.

00:40:41.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:42.000 What's the, what's the quote?

00:40:43.000 When you were, when you were, when you were strong, I asked for freedom because it was according to your principles.

00:40:48.000 Uh, now that I am strong, I deny it to you deny it to you because that's according to my principles.

00:40:53.000 And so the problem with the liberty-minded individuals, civil libertarians, libertarians, conservatives, is they keep doing this and they've kept doing this.

00:41:00.000 Joe Biden should be impeached day one for his illicit dealings in Ukraine.

00:41:05.000 But I am willing to bet Republicans like Mitch McConnell is going to step up and say, no, we don't want to do that.

00:41:10.000 What would Jesus do?

00:41:13.000 What did he say about buying a sword?

00:41:14.000 Oh yeah, Hugh does not have a sword, sell his cloak and buy one.

00:41:19.000 I think it'd be fair to say that you're supposed to protect yourself from people who would wrong you and try to destroy you, right?

00:41:26.000 Jesus went into the temple and he flipped tables because those money changers were cheating people.

00:41:31.000 I think the Bible wrote him to be way more passive than he actually was.

00:41:34.000 Because he did toss tables around in a temple.

00:41:36.000 That's nuts.

00:41:37.000 But everything you know about him is from the Bible and what's written there.

00:41:40.000 Well, I don't want to make this a religious discussion.

00:41:42.000 I'm trying to think of the... It's political.

00:41:45.000 You can't be like, now that I have power, I will let all of you be free after your illegal dealings, your manipulations, your scams, and your criminal behavior.

00:41:54.000 You're all forgiven.

00:41:55.000 And the moment they get elected, they come and they lock you up.

00:41:58.000 If you did like a tribunal that was like an independent tribunal that wasn't a governmental thing.

00:42:02.000 It was, I don't know how you could actually do an independent thing this day and age, but you got to make sure that it's not left to its own devices because it will just continue to do what it does, which is root people out.

00:42:11.000 So you got to watch out for like McCarthyism all over again.

00:42:15.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:42:16.000 I think just because you can point, and this is sort of the problem with the witch hunt analogy, just because you can point to examples in the past that you feel were a group of people being overzeal in their attempt to clean their society up, that doesn't mean that bad people shouldn't be held accountable when they do bad things and that we shouldn't have trials to figure out who's destroying our culture.

00:42:34.000 Well, the problem is that the right thinks it's having a discussion and the left knows it's fighting a war.

00:42:40.000 They know this is the ratchet.

00:42:41.000 The right thinks that they're adhering to a set of principles.

00:42:44.000 They think that they're the ones going by the Constitution, playing fair.

00:42:47.000 We want to be objective.

00:42:48.000 We want to follow the rules.

00:42:49.000 The left knows they're fighting for control of the culture.

00:42:52.000 Politics is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies.

00:42:55.000 And we can all sit around and pretend like we've made beyond that, and we're better people than that.

00:43:00.000 At the end of the day, that's what works.

00:43:02.000 That's what maintains power.

00:43:03.000 And that's how you win.

00:43:04.000 And that's how you make things better if you're the ones who are going to make things better.

00:43:08.000 And we don't like that because it feels icky.

00:43:10.000 It feels restrictive.

00:43:13.000 But it's true.

00:43:14.000 And we can cry about it all we want, or we can realize the truth that's been in front of us for many, many years.

00:43:18.000 And what plays out every day, we see it all the time.

00:43:21.000 And it's not even as if we're just going, these people are our enemies and we only want to punish them because we disagree with them.

00:43:26.000 They were burning down buildings.

00:43:27.000 People got killed.

00:43:28.000 They destroyed businesses.

00:43:30.000 People were terrified.

00:43:31.000 It's incredible how quickly people forgot what the summer of 2020 was.

00:43:34.000 Yeah, and one of the things that I noticed actually today was that you need to strive to be the better person in your personal life, but when it comes to politics, you have to be pragmatic.

00:43:44.000 Because the conservatives have attempted to apply political or personal dynamics to politics.

00:43:49.000 They want to be friendly.

00:43:50.000 They want to be the better person.

00:43:52.000 They don't want to do to Ketanji Brown-Jackson what they did to Brett Kavanaugh.

00:43:55.000 But they are losing, and that's why the Groomers is working.

00:43:59.000 But look at the media narrative on Ketanji Brown-Jackson.

00:44:02.000 The president gets up and says, can you believe what those Republicans did?

00:44:06.000 And all these Democrats are like, they besmirched her good name! 0.90

00:44:09.000 It's like, you accused Brett Kavanaugh of being party to gang rape.

00:44:12.000 Well, yeah, exactly, and this is the difference.

00:44:14.000 And they asked her about her... Her actual record, yes.

00:44:18.000 And so that's my exact point.

00:44:19.000 People compare the right and the left, and any time the right actually shows its teeth or tries to do anything effective, people go, oh, they're just as bad as the left, ignoring the fact that we are using actual facts and events that happened to talk about this person's record and not smearing someone without any evidence, which is what they did to Kavanaugh.

00:44:34.000 And to the point about groomers, it's not as if that's the wrong terminology to refer to The people who are opposing this bill, once they know it's about preventing adults from having secret conversations about sex with children, that they tell them not to repeat to their parents.

00:44:46.000 So it's not like the right is going out there saying, we're going to use these illicit or dirty techniques to go after the left the way they do to us.

00:44:52.000 It's the right is saying, let's be reasonable and hold people accountable for doing bad things.

00:44:56.000 And then the response from we conservatives is, that makes us just as bad as them.

00:45:00.000 We need to excise.

00:45:03.000 We need to start building our own systems.

00:45:07.000 Bill gaining control of platforms that we like Elon Musk buying Twitter brilliant daily wire launching their own Children's content movies and streaming platform kind of stuff brilliant when when when you're on the playground at recess and the and and the bully kids or whatever are Demanding that you say or believe something.

00:45:26.000 You don't believe otherwise, you're not cool be like I'm gonna go over on the other side of the playground and I'm gonna make my own game.

00:45:32.000 And you guys can't play it.

00:45:33.000 And then do something cool and fun and convince people to join you instead of engaging with people who are cheating the whole time.

00:45:39.000 I always tell people this.

00:45:41.000 We're all playing a game of Monopoly.

00:45:43.000 They're overtly cheating every time.

00:45:47.000 And then we just sit there and for the longest time the right, and I think now what's helping the right is the post-liberals joining the fray, giving them a larger amount of forces in the culture war.

00:45:58.000 But for the longest time we're just like, I know they're cheating, but...

00:46:01.000 If I just play harder, I'll win.

00:46:03.000 And it's not even that.

00:46:04.000 It's not even like they're cheating and the right is saying, well, we want to follow the rules.

00:46:07.000 It's like they're cheating.

00:46:08.000 And then they land on Boardwalk, which we own, and there's hotels on it.

00:46:12.000 And we go, it would be too mean to make them pay the amount that the game says that they should.

00:46:16.000 You owe me a thousand, but that would bankrupt you.

00:46:16.000 Yeah.

00:46:18.000 So you can just pass.

00:46:19.000 We're going to be really nice to you guys.

00:46:20.000 Can you imagine if you played Monopoly like that?

00:46:22.000 I think technically you don't have to take rent if they land on your property.

00:46:24.000 I'm not sure about that though.

00:46:25.000 Well, you don't because you're allowed to do free trade.

00:46:27.000 Um, this, I kind of see this metaphor as if there's a brain worm infested in the American mind and the left arm is flailing around, smacking itself, and the right arm's like, whoa, that arm's out of control.

00:46:38.000 Cutting off the arm is not the, it might work, but it's not the solution.

00:46:43.000 It's just like a Band-Aid, you know?

00:46:44.000 Dude, haven't you seen Idle Hands with Seth Green?

00:46:46.000 No.

00:46:46.000 The solution was to lop the hand off, man.

00:46:49.000 His hand got possessed by the devil or whatever.

00:46:51.000 Yeah, that just doesn't feel right though to like go after the people when it's this like weird banking mentality thing that seized control of the government.

00:47:00.000 When you go on a dangerous hike through cold weather Oh, snap.

00:47:04.000 Yeah, you do.

00:47:05.000 hand is frostbitten and rotted and then you you when you go back into the warmth

00:47:10.000 and it starts thawing the dead particles can toxify your system oh snap you've

00:47:15.000 got to cut it off yeah you do you've got to remove it has it gone necrotic I

00:47:19.000 would I would say yes dude look at what's going on right now

00:47:23.000 You know, I just tweeted.

00:47:25.000 Would progressive parents give their minor sons breast implants if they were trans?

00:47:31.000 Because breast implants are temporary, can be removed, but mastectomies are permanent.

00:47:36.000 Because they are giving minor girls mastectomies. 0.82

00:47:40.000 And that's a shocking question, I suppose.

00:47:42.000 When we get to the point where we're talking about to what degree are we willing to provide surgeries to children to make them feel better, like the systems in... You know what?

00:47:51.000 Who was it who said that cultures that are obsessed with gender are on the verge of collapsing like that?

00:47:57.000 Have you heard that?

00:47:58.000 Because we've seen it in many different civilizations.

00:48:02.000 The obsession over gender completely ignores the realities of every other mental dysmorphic issue.

00:48:09.000 Like, the only one that matters to the left and to the mainstream media is gender, even though there's many other body dysmorphia issues like weight, like anorexia, or what is it, like general body dysmorphic disorder where you want to like cut your hands off and stuff like that?

00:48:23.000 Yeah, yeah, transableism.

00:48:24.000 I think that's something that's what that's called, when you feel like you're in the wrong body so you cut a piece off and then...

00:48:28.000 It's called, like, general dysmorphic disorder.

00:48:30.000 It was Jordan Peterson that has been talking about this.

00:48:32.000 He was on Rogan talking about it.

00:48:33.000 Episode 1769.

00:48:34.000 Well, actually, Ian, it was me on Rogan in 2018 talking about it.

00:48:38.000 Technically, it goes back to Aristotle when he first... No, but this is exactly what I said to Dorsey.

00:48:44.000 I was like, are you going to create protections for people who want to remove their hands or ears or nose or something? 0.88

00:48:48.000 That's ridiculous. 0.96

00:48:50.000 That's too far to me, man. 0.99

00:48:51.000 When you start surgically cutting yourself off, like, that's too much!

00:48:55.000 Yeah.

00:48:55.000 Come on!

00:48:55.000 They're doing it already.

00:48:56.000 Jeez, girls under the age of 18 are already getting permanent top surgery to their chests. 1.00

00:49:02.000 Now, I suppose it's up to the parents or whatever, but I kind of feel like when you're an adult and

00:49:09.000 you're, you know, we've, we've crossed a certain threshold where we're like, that's where you're

00:49:12.000 old enough. You make decisions for your life to do body modification.

00:49:15.000 When we're at the point where, there was a study I tweeted about earlier, 13 to 25 year olds, females, were surveyed on, half of them got mastectomies, half of them didn't.

00:49:27.000 The median age for the mastectomy was 19, but it included It was overwhelmingly 14 and 15 year olds.

00:49:33.000 That's child abuse. 1.00

00:49:34.000 Who were having their breasts removed. 1.00

00:49:36.000 Now, the reason I ask this is, you can give a male breast implants and that's temporary. 0.91

00:49:39.000 Meaning, at some point, if something happens, they can be removed and all is, you know, relatively back to normal.

00:49:44.000 But for young women, the mastectomies are permanent. 1.00

00:49:48.000 I don't want to get into all of that stuff.

00:49:49.000 Actually, we have a story we can talk about in that regard.

00:49:51.000 But I bring this up when you're saying, has it gone necrotic?

00:49:54.000 And I'm like, the point I bring up with that, how is it That that's a question to be asked of the left based on their own ideology with their children.

00:50:06.000 Should 14-year-old boys get breast implants? 0.62

00:50:08.000 I'm asking that because they are already surgically removing the breasts of girls. 1.00

00:50:12.000 So once we've gotten to the point where the left would say that, you know, giving a mastectomy to a minor should be legal and isn't child abuse, you're not dealing with an arm that isn't working.

00:50:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:23.000 I think it's more akin to a tumor.

00:50:25.000 And the problem is that when it comes on the internet and other kids see it on TikTok and are like, oh, I want to be accepted.

00:50:31.000 So I'll do what that guy's doing, cutting himself up.

00:50:34.000 That's when it becomes necrotic.

00:50:35.000 That's when you get blood poisoning and sepsis is when it's in the system, infecting the system.

00:50:40.000 I think typically I say I defer to the doctors of many of these kids and these families.

00:50:47.000 I genuinely believe that there are issues of depression and dysphoria and all that stuff and they need to find a way to deal with this.

00:50:53.000 In Scandinavian countries that the left often likes to tout in terms of their medical care, they do psychotherapy and they do sessions.

00:51:02.000 They don't immediately go for pharmaceuticals or surgery.

00:51:06.000 So if we were to look to the Scandinavian countries, which are bastions of great medical services, you'd see there's less of these circumstances occurring.

00:51:16.000 Maybe that's the right way to do it.

00:51:17.000 Maybe, you know what?

00:51:18.000 I gotta say, I'm in favor of those socialist Scandinavians, right?

00:51:22.000 They're not really socialist, but you get my point.

00:51:25.000 I'm not trying to get into a conversation about trans.

00:51:28.000 I'm trying to point out that there is a fractured logic.

00:51:33.000 in what's happening.

00:51:34.000 There's no conversation about body dysmorphia.

00:51:38.000 There's no conversation about people who are cutting their ears, cutting their fingers off, and things like that, because those people exist as well, and they're also in very small proportions.

00:51:46.000 There's no conversation about protecting transracial people.

00:51:48.000 In fact, transracial people are shunned and mocked, for instance.

00:51:52.000 People like Rachel Dolezal.

00:51:56.000 Is Sean King transracial?

00:51:57.000 What's his deal?

00:51:58.000 He's pretending, I think.

00:51:59.000 I don't know.

00:52:00.000 Well, he says he's biracial, right?

00:52:02.000 I don't know, though, because, like, I don't know his story.

00:52:04.000 Yeah, he said his mom slept around, I think, was the issue.

00:52:06.000 Oh, is that what it was?

00:52:07.000 Oh, so he actually does... I don't know.

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:09.000 He identifies as biracial, I guess.

00:52:11.000 I mean, he's whiter than Rachel Dolezal.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, he's pretty.

00:52:13.000 He is.

00:52:13.000 Yeah, yeah, he's pretty bad.

00:52:14.000 So, you know, I don't know.

00:52:16.000 At this point, you know, he's still considered... I guess a lot of people hate him, you know, to be honest.

00:52:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:22.000 Bipartisanly, people hate him.

00:52:23.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 But he's still prominent.

00:52:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:25.000 He's still prominent.

00:52:26.000 And so if we're at the point now where someone who at the very least looks overtly white can give themselves a haircut and put up a sepia toned photograph and they're considered black, it just feels like there's no cultural cohesion.

00:52:37.000 So yeah, necrotic.

00:52:39.000 The system is completely broken.

00:52:41.000 It makes very little sense.

00:52:42.000 And you've got people right now, the article we read the other day where the guy said, why are Republicans so concerned about grooming?

00:52:49.000 And I'm like, okay, yo, we got a problem.

00:52:51.000 So I just ignore it.

00:52:52.000 I ignore it.

00:52:53.000 You can't ignore sepsis, though.

00:52:54.000 That's how people die.

00:52:56.000 Blood poisoning.

00:52:56.000 Yep.

00:52:57.000 That's a good point.

00:52:57.000 That's right.

00:52:59.000 That's right.

00:53:00.000 I think you made a very cogent point that people's adaptability is overriding their intellect and their strength.

00:53:06.000 And that's a natural part, like what Darwin was saying, a natural part of the survival instinct, is you adapt.

00:53:10.000 If you have a totalitarian government and you don't adapt, it kills you.

00:53:13.000 So the adaptable survive.

00:53:15.000 But why, you know, this is the thing, you know, when I was talking to this friend of mine, this was several years ago, because we're not friends anymore.

00:53:20.000 She deleted her Facebook.

00:53:22.000 She blocked me. 0.59

00:53:23.000 She blocked me and then deleted her Facebook.

00:53:24.000 And I think it was because, what I pointed out, that the logic of her mind, what she knew to be true, was conflicted with what she had to say in order to survive.

00:53:34.000 But I'm like, why say it to me?

00:53:35.000 You know, like I was having a candid conversation where I wasn't telling her to believe anything.

00:53:39.000 I was asking her questions about what she believed.

00:53:41.000 I had another friend who was talking to me on Facebook, and I sent them UN statistics on the refugee crisis.

00:53:48.000 And I think what I said was, what we're seeing with the, I think it's the central Mediterranean route for refugees, was predominantly economic migrants from places like Nigeria, and the eastern route was refugees from Syria and Afghanistan.

00:54:05.000 And she got really angry and blocked me. 0.99

00:54:08.000 And I'm like, yo, I'm not messaging my friends and being like, you're so dumb. 0.97

00:54:12.000 I was like, hey, how's it going? 0.98

00:54:13.000 How you been?

00:54:14.000 And then they're talking like, I'm just really upset about what's going on with the refugee stuff and these crises.

00:54:17.000 And I'm like, yeah, man, I hear you.

00:54:18.000 It's brutal stuff.

00:54:20.000 And then they'd say something like, all of these people are just fleeing war.

00:54:22.000 I can't understand why we can't help them.

00:54:24.000 And then I said, well, I mean, the news we're actually seeing about Italy is actually the central route here.

00:54:28.000 Here's an article from the UN.

00:54:30.000 And they were like, F you.

00:54:31.000 That sounds like a six year relationship I was in.

00:54:33.000 I try and bring up logic and she'd be like, Yeah, you don't understand me!

00:54:37.000 And I'm like, okay, logic isn't the way to communicate with everyone.

00:54:39.000 Sometimes you need emotion and to listen.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, but when someone says, I'm mad about something that isn't happening, and then I'm like, oh, well, you know, here's what the UN is saying, and then they freak out even more.

00:54:51.000 The system I would have, she'd be like, I'm in pain, I'm having a hard time.

00:54:54.000 I'd be like, well, you know, if you did this, it would make you, and she'd be like, I don't want, I just want you to tell me it's going to be okay!

00:54:58.000 You know, and it's like, that's logic.

00:55:01.000 It's just, it's just the other half of communication.

00:55:03.000 Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. 0.98

00:55:05.000 Hello.

00:55:06.000 If there's a lesson we should learn from all this, it's that the marketplace of ideas is

00:55:10.000 It's not a real thing.

00:55:11.000 It's not how societies change their minds.

00:55:14.000 It's not how individuals change their mind.

00:55:16.000 Yes, of course, we all have rational conversations, and there are situations where you can bring facts to people, and if they're open to you, They're going to go ahead and change mine, but they have to be pretty close to you already, right?

00:55:26.000 You rarely get to a situation where someone is on the entirely different spectrum or you don't have a large amount of trust built up with them and you just drop the facts on them and they say, oh, okay, you're right.

00:55:35.000 I'll just go ahead and concede this thing that totally alters and shatters my worldview because you happen to bring me facts.

00:55:40.000 That's not how people work, unfortunately.

00:55:43.000 Again, it's about making sure to understand how these things get communicated, how this information gets manipulated, and until people have a better understanding of how that happens and people on the right and the post-left are willing to understand that and utilize that, I think they're going to continue to just kind of fall on their face trying to have these circular arguments that never go anywhere.

00:56:04.000 I have a solution.

00:56:06.000 Elon, the market cap of Twitter, I believe is around, what, $50 billion.

00:56:13.000 You have access to that level of capital.

00:56:16.000 Now you're going to have to sell a decent amount of Tesla.

00:56:18.000 That could be dangerous for you, I understand, but you're rich.

00:56:21.000 Buy 100% of Twitter and then shut it down completely.

00:56:26.000 Now, first of all, I'm joking, right?

00:56:28.000 But I'm only half joking.

00:56:29.000 The problem we're facing is that Twitter keeps people in the cult.

00:56:33.000 To get someone out of a cult, you have to remove them from the cult.

00:56:37.000 Expose them to a diversity of worldviews and opinions so they can see that this one cult worldview isn't correct.

00:56:46.000 But what happens?

00:56:47.000 When you go to someone and say, you know, X plus Y equals Z, as like a fact statement, like here's Hunter Biden was doing illicit dealings in Ukraine.

00:56:57.000 And based on the evidence of him sharing a bank account with his dad, it seems likely that Joe Biden was involved in illicit dealings.

00:57:02.000 Joe Biden got the prosecutor fired.

00:57:03.000 We know all these stories.

00:57:05.000 Give them that information.

00:57:07.000 The problem is they open their phone right back up, and they get sucked right back into the cult.

00:57:11.000 Patting them on the back, hugging them, telling them, no, no, they're the cult.

00:57:14.000 We're the right ones.

00:57:15.000 We're the ones who are telling you the truth.

00:57:17.000 Like Brian Stelter.

00:57:18.000 Do you guys see that high school kid?

00:57:20.000 I think it was a high school kid, right?

00:57:21.000 It's a college freshman.

00:57:21.000 College freshman.

00:57:23.000 He asks Brian, like, here's all the stories that you guys have gotten wrong.

00:57:26.000 And Brian goes, when that reporter got seriously injured in Ukraine, we all were there for him.

00:57:31.000 Because that's what real news does.

00:57:33.000 What?

00:57:33.000 Talk about, I called him a politician.

00:57:35.000 He didn't answer the question.

00:57:36.000 That sounds like something Michael Scott would say.

00:57:39.000 That's a very office quote.

00:57:40.000 Because they're a cult.

00:57:42.000 Now, of course, the right has their zealots.

00:57:45.000 But here's the funny thing.

00:57:46.000 That ain't us.

00:57:47.000 Luke ragged on Trump nonstop.

00:57:49.000 Ian rags on Trump.

00:57:50.000 But we try to have real conversations about this to the best of our abilities.

00:57:54.000 And they would call us the cult.

00:57:56.000 So when you've got a cult that genuinely believes they're right, and they're wired in, How do you get them away from it unless you delete Twitter outright?

00:58:04.000 Now, pondering upon that, imagine how bad it will be in the metaverse when people are just plugged in like the board.

00:58:08.000 Are you going in?

00:58:09.000 Yeah, there's no escape.

00:58:10.000 No, I'm staying away from any kind of hyperreality as much as possible.

00:58:14.000 No, thank you.

00:58:15.000 How embedded are you in your device these days?

00:58:17.000 I mean, I can't pretend.

00:58:18.000 You're good at Twitter.

00:58:20.000 I spend some time on Twitter.

00:58:21.000 That's true.

00:58:21.000 But, uh, no, just thinking along these lines, what do we do moving forward when Twitter has become the hive cult that people are already plugged in?

00:58:30.000 Whether you get an implant for it or not, people are wired to the net.

00:58:34.000 They're in the matrix already, man.

00:58:37.000 I gotta have an unlimited amount of Twitters, basically.

00:58:37.000 What do you do?

00:58:40.000 It's the only way, with unlimited amounts of terms of service, because you're never gonna please everyone.

00:58:44.000 That's not the issue.

00:58:45.000 The issue is, these people are already on Twitter, and when you say, here's the truth, here's the evidence, they go, whoa, I didn't realize that.

00:58:52.000 Then they pick up their phone and retreat back to their safe space.

00:58:55.000 It doesn't matter if it's Twitter or Minds or Bitchute, it's people building communal safe spaces for confirmation.

00:59:00.000 So this is probably the war you were talking about.

00:59:02.000 It's like a constant erosion of thought and regrowth of thought.

00:59:06.000 I mean, ideally, we would all actually have safer spaces.

00:59:09.000 And I know that's not going to be a popular thing to say.

00:59:11.000 But the reality is that America is not a country that's going to build consensus ever again.

00:59:17.000 And we need to come to that realization.

00:59:20.000 We need to understand that.

00:59:21.000 the people who are, you know, in California, you know, going, you know, setting this kind of stuff

00:59:26.000 up for kids and the people who are in deep red states who are banning it, I think it was Alabama

00:59:31.000 just just banned it. They live entirely different lives, they entirely different value systems,

00:59:35.000 there is no overlap anymore. In a lot of ways, there never was we think of America as one

00:59:41.000 cohesive culture.

00:59:43.000 But really, until World War II, it wasn't.

00:59:46.000 There wasn't that level of mass communication to build that kind of thing.

00:59:49.000 There wasn't a level of standardized education to bind people together under a certain amount of experiences.

00:59:54.000 Everyone seeing the same movie.

00:59:55.000 Everybody listening to the same music.

00:59:57.000 It simply didn't exist.

00:59:58.000 And so, I think it's actually really unhealthy for everyone to be linked together across a country where people basically, like, Here's something to consider too, based on what you're saying.

01:00:07.000 of value-based issues, and we would all be in a much better situation if people could go back to being able to have

01:00:14.000 smaller communities and more regional moralities and be able

01:00:18.000 to deal with their own way. Unfortunately, I don't think that the government's gonna let people do that. But I think

01:00:24.000 that would be the better solution.

01:00:25.000 Here's something to consider too, based on what you're saying. You know, back in the day, our elections tended to

01:00:30.000 be more local, because of the way communication happened.

01:00:35.000 Even in the past 20 years, local news outlets, you know, you turn on your Channel 5 news or whatever and it's your town, your region.

01:00:42.000 You're getting information based on this area.

01:00:44.000 It still, to this day, exists, but for the most part, it's dying out.

01:00:47.000 Now what ends up happening is someone like Ocasio-Cortez stands up and screams her radicalism and her insane ideas about farting cows, and there's one crazy person in every city who normally has no power, but when they heed the call on the internet, they now focus fire their donations to someone like AOC who is then able to win in her district and get into federal office. 0.99

01:01:08.000 This is taking the radical voices that are normally disparate across the country, unifying them in a digital space, Amplifying their power, and then creating serious hyper-polarization in government.

01:01:19.000 And, God forbid, across the world.

01:01:21.000 It's no longer like a national.

01:01:23.000 It's like people in China can donate to AOC, you know, through whatever means they feel like they gotta go through.

01:01:29.000 And it's illegal, but they figure out ways to do it.

01:01:33.000 It's insane.

01:01:34.000 People need to understand this, how easy it is for any country to put money into our elections.

01:01:40.000 China can reach out to Seamus and say, would you be willing to animate something for us and we'll pay you $10,000?

01:01:46.000 And Seamus goes, oh yeah, great.

01:01:49.000 You know, it's just some Chinese company.

01:01:51.000 Then he gets paid 10 grand and then he's got this money and he goes, I'm going to donate to a politician.

01:01:55.000 Of course, you know, in that circumstance, we're talking about the subversive method of, They could hire, like Russia does this, right? 0.89

01:02:04.000 Russia was hiring people who had dissident views to work for RT and Sputnik.

01:02:10.000 Someone who was an anti-establishment or dissident voice would be paid, and that alone gave them resources to function in the United States and allow their ideas to flourish more.

01:02:20.000 China can do the same thing.

01:02:22.000 They can find a bunch of social justice activists, put money into non-profits.

01:02:26.000 The non-profits will then fund these activists, who then help support these politicians.

01:02:30.000 Or if they want to be a bit more direct, they can get an American citizen who does something illegal and just takes a contract with them, knowing they want him to give money to politicians or start super PACs.

01:02:39.000 And I would imagine corporations could do that as well, could send the money, so it wouldn't have to be like the CCP.

01:02:44.000 Corporations do it all the time, bro.

01:02:45.000 Foreign corporations.

01:02:47.000 Oh yeah, hundreds of millions of dollars into political action committees and other non-profits, and they can do all of these things.

01:02:53.000 Short of like a complete global power outage, I don't see any way to go back.

01:02:56.000 Like a Great Reset?

01:02:58.000 Unfortunately, they'd still have power.

01:03:00.000 A Great Reset with no power, that's another conversation.

01:03:04.000 I don't have the answers, man.

01:03:05.000 I can just see bad stuff happening, and so it's... I'm so blackpailed lately.

01:03:09.000 Help me.

01:03:10.000 Well, you don't have to be blackpailed.

01:03:11.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:03:12.000 We started by talking about how we need only steer the ship.

01:03:15.000 CNN and all these networks are sinking.

01:03:17.000 But that's bad.

01:03:17.000 They're imploding.

01:03:17.000 They just got bought.

01:03:18.000 It's a corporate oligarch.

01:03:20.000 They're laying people off.

01:03:21.000 They're consolidating because they're falling apart, bro.

01:03:25.000 Well, that might be, that might be true.

01:03:26.000 Yeah.

01:03:27.000 But it's the one corporation bought three more.

01:03:29.000 Who is it?

01:03:29.000 Who bought who?

01:03:30.000 Discovery bought Warner.

01:03:32.000 They bought Warner.

01:03:32.000 Yep.

01:03:33.000 And merger with Warner.

01:03:34.000 They merged with Warner.

01:03:35.000 Okay.

01:03:35.000 Just remember how well The Daily Wire and Tim Kast are doing.

01:03:40.000 Fantastic.

01:03:41.000 Yeah, you can start your own company too.

01:03:42.000 You can whip it up pretty quick these days.

01:03:43.000 That's right.

01:03:44.000 We're looking at these companies crumbling.

01:03:46.000 We're looking at Democrat polls collapsing.

01:03:49.000 Republicans in Pennsylvania switching, uh, stealing Democrat voters four to one.

01:03:54.000 So, for every Republican who quits to be a Democrat, Republicans get Democrats four to one.

01:03:59.000 I don't know if you guys know, but it's super easy to start a corporation.

01:04:02.000 Like, really, really easy.

01:04:03.000 You go to, like, I went to LegalZoom.com, and it's like 300 bucks.

01:04:06.000 And you start, now you have your own corporation.

01:04:08.000 It's incredible.

01:04:09.000 It might be a little more than that, I don't know.

01:04:10.000 But if you have a business, man, you can make it happen.

01:04:13.000 Yeah, but you don't just need a corporation, you need a business.

01:04:15.000 You need a bank account.

01:04:16.000 You need a business to become a corporation.

01:04:17.000 Yeah, so, what I found is, don't incorporate until you have an income, or you're about to start getting income, and then you incorporate because you need to.

01:04:24.000 As opposed to, I'm going to start a corporation and be like, one of these days I'm going to start using it.

01:04:27.000 No, no, no.

01:04:29.000 I'm not giving anybody advice.

01:04:30.000 I'll just tell you, in my personal opinion, if you as an individual are doing work, you act as a sole proprietor.

01:04:38.000 Once you get to a certain degree of income, or you want to start hiring, then you can formalize your corporation for those reasons.

01:04:45.000 If you start taking on assets and you want to limit liability, then you create a limited liability corporation for those reasons.

01:04:51.000 So you can separate your assets out from the company and your personal assets.

01:04:55.000 If you're just like a contractor who does odd jobs here and there, you don't necessarily need a corporation, depending on what you do, but a lot of people will create single member LLCs to run their business through to limit liability.

01:05:08.000 I didn't learn it in public school, which is why I brought it up on the show.

01:05:10.000 I think more people should know about it and be taught that.

01:05:13.000 Yeah, it was tough for me starting everything up because I had to figure it out on my own.

01:05:17.000 And I had all this different advice and people telling me different things, and we don't do that for our kids.

01:05:21.000 The fascinating thing to me is that a kid is more likely to learn how to bind their chest than how to start a company.

01:05:27.000 Yikes.

01:05:28.000 Has anyone thought about that? 0.99

01:05:30.000 A kid is more likely to learn how to tuck his genitals between his legs than he will learn how to open a bank account. 0.98

01:05:35.000 And you mean at public school? 0.99

01:05:36.000 Yeah.

01:05:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:37.000 Not my kids.

01:05:38.000 So we've got this bill in New Jersey about second graders who have to learn about identity and all that stuff.

01:05:46.000 And it's like, Should we teach these kids about basic elements of society before we teach them about, you know, inner workings of biology?

01:05:52.000 Yeah, it's not as if our educational system is doing really well, our test results are higher, and our children are performing well relative to the children in other developed countries, so we can just add all this extra stuff on top of it. 0.92

01:06:02.000 I mean, our system's abysmal, but of course, even if our system was doing very well, and there was more to add, it wouldn't be this disgusting, perverted nonsense that's gonna sexually confuse these kids. 0.63

01:06:11.000 The fascinating thing to me is, I remember I used to tell people this stat, that in South Africa, A little girl is more likely to be raped than learn how to read. 0.97

01:06:19.000 The stats are horrifying.

01:06:20.000 And now to see it in the United States that, you know, a kid is more likely to learn how to bind their, you know, their breasts as opposed to learn how to open a bank account or start a business. 0.99

01:06:30.000 Like, that should be alarming to people.

01:06:33.000 This is very alarming to me because they asked a bunch of 11-year-old boys what they thought they should be learning in school, and they gave them a very comprehensive list.

01:06:40.000 Here are some of the things they want to learn about.

01:06:42.000 Sewing and repairing things, hunting and foraging, money and budgeting, taxes and insurance, healthcare and first aid, cars and mechanics, just to name a few.

01:06:50.000 Kids are not the kind of...

01:06:54.000 They think that kids are like these social justice widgets.

01:06:56.000 I think that's what Ben Shapiro said that the public school system views them as.

01:06:59.000 And they are not.

01:07:01.000 Children are small people that deserve to learn about things like opening bank accounts and starting companies.

01:07:06.000 They do not need to be gender confused by such an early age.

01:07:11.000 And if there is ever anything to fight against, this is it.

01:07:14.000 And we don't have the choice anymore not to fight.

01:07:18.000 There is no option anymore.

01:07:20.000 If you value your children, this is what you have to do.

01:07:23.000 But I think Jack Posobiec is the one who says it.

01:07:26.000 That fighting back is just having a family.

01:07:28.000 Right.

01:07:28.000 He says it all the time.

01:07:29.000 Have a family.

01:07:31.000 Work your job.

01:07:32.000 Be a rebel.

01:07:32.000 Mike Cernovich says, make money.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, the medium is the message.

01:07:37.000 That's it.

01:07:38.000 The way you deliver the message is the message.

01:07:40.000 Homeschool your kids. 0.99

01:07:41.000 Yes.

01:07:42.000 I was homeschooled from like pre-kindergarten for as soon as I could communicate in any way.

01:07:48.000 My mom was trying to teach me stuff.

01:07:50.000 We were learning, my brothers and sisters, we learned math when we were like before we were even five.

01:07:54.000 I was learning how to play chess when I was three.

01:07:57.000 I tell people, You know, I've talked to people and they say, oh, my three-year-old couldn't possibly learn that stuff, they're too young.

01:08:02.000 And I'm like, it doesn't matter if they can, start teaching them now.

01:08:06.000 It may be harder for them because they're only three, but trust me, they are learning.

01:08:11.000 They're not learning as fast as an adult would learn, but they are learning.

01:08:15.000 I hear people say, oh, it's so much easier to learn a language when you're a little kid.

01:08:19.000 And my response is, no, it isn't.

01:08:21.000 How long does it take a human baby to become fluent in English to have a political conversation with you?

01:08:26.000 Takes a while.

01:08:27.000 Sorry, it takes like 20 years.

01:08:29.000 You know, you can have a 12-year-old who can speak English to you, but they're going to be like, I don't know what those concepts mean.

01:08:33.000 I don't know what those things are.

01:08:35.000 But a human being who's 30 years old On average, I believe it takes around 44 weeks for someone who speaks a Germanic or Romance language to learn a Germanic or Romance language and be fluent in it, enough to actually have political conversations. 0.92

01:08:49.000 And it's because all of that wisdom and knowledge you've gained throughout your life plays a role in your ability to learn. 0.98

01:08:56.000 But also, it's extremely easy to say to someone, you know, Basura is garbage.

01:09:02.000 And they instantly connect those because they already understand the concepts of language.

01:09:06.000 Whereas, it takes, you know, how long, like, aside from knowledge, getting a kid to actually be able to speak to you is, what, eight or ten years before they're actually talking and expressing, like, real conversations and asking real questions?

01:09:21.000 So at a younger age, it's actually harder to learn things.

01:09:24.000 But I just say this because Don't assume just because your kid is three, they can't learn.

01:09:30.000 It just will take them longer, but you should be teaching them everything you can.

01:09:34.000 And my opinion on this is, always speak to your children like adults.

01:09:38.000 I always do that.

01:09:39.000 If a kid says something to me like, how do I turn on the game?

01:09:43.000 I'll be like, press the power button and the remote's on top.

01:09:45.000 I'm not going to dumb it down.

01:09:46.000 I'm not going to be like, OK, well, this is the controller.

01:09:48.000 Here's how you use it.

01:09:49.000 I'm going to be like, that's the controller.

01:09:50.000 Pick it up.

01:09:51.000 Play it.

01:09:52.000 You'll figure it out.

01:09:53.000 Press the buttons until you figure out what makes them go.

01:09:55.000 They'll ask you when they need you and let them figure it out on their own.

01:09:59.000 I remember a conversation that I might be fabricating this, but I seem to remember this conversation with my mom.

01:09:59.000 I think exactly.

01:10:03.000 I was really young watching Sesame Street and they're always talking Spanish on Sesame Street.

01:10:07.000 And I asked my mom, can I learn Spanish?

01:10:09.000 And she said, no, it's too hard.

01:10:12.000 And that would basically shut my mind down to it for my entire life until I was in my twenties and thirties.

01:10:15.000 And I, and I became sovereign and I, and I knew I could do anything I wanted to do mentally.

01:10:20.000 Um, so if you're a mom out there, don't tell your kid that's too hard.

01:10:23.000 Tell them, yeah, you can.

01:10:23.000 And then learn it with them.

01:10:25.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 I follow a bunch of these Instagrams that are for like raising kids from a young age and one of the things that a majority of them recommend is just sitting down with your baby and reading to them and that's so interesting to me because my siblings and I were all homeschooled all of our lives except for like the last two years of high school for me and my sister.

01:10:45.000 But my parents read to us, and then there came a point where they would take our books away from us to punish us.

01:10:52.000 All of us.

01:10:52.000 We would read under the covers with flashlights.

01:10:55.000 This is how we would get in trouble.

01:10:56.000 We'd get spanked for this or whatever. 0.86

01:10:58.000 I don't remember how they punished us for this.

01:11:00.000 But we were constantly reading, and they thought this was great.

01:11:03.000 All of our vocabularies are incredibly well-developed, and we're not weird homeschooled kids.

01:11:08.000 People have this fear of homeschooling.

01:11:10.000 They say, well, they're not going to be like other kids.

01:11:12.000 They're not going to be socialized with other kids.

01:11:13.000 My siblings and I were, as you say, we were constantly around adults.

01:11:17.000 And the adults thought that we were incredibly charming because we were well-behaved, we knew what adults expected, and we understood that we were going to be adults.

01:11:26.000 So we were working towards that.

01:11:28.000 That was our goal.

01:11:29.000 We didn't just want to stay kids forever.

01:11:31.000 And I think that's a really huge problem with modern people is that they want to stay kids forever.

01:11:35.000 It's become a real issue and I think homeschooling is going to revolutionize us hopefully in the near future.

01:11:40.000 No, that's very true, and you're correct.

01:11:41.000 A lot of people will say homeschool kids are weird and they don't fit in with the other kids.

01:11:45.000 It's like, well, maybe I don't want them to fit in with the kids who are getting mastectomies when they're 15 years old.

01:11:48.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:11:49.000 The little soldiers that are being built.

01:11:51.000 Yeah.

01:11:51.000 The little machines.

01:11:52.000 Little foot soldiers.

01:11:53.000 Yeah, I don't want my kid to feel normal around that environment.

01:11:56.000 That environment was crazy public school.

01:11:58.000 I mean, that environment was crazy.

01:11:59.000 I got pushed in the locker.

01:12:00.000 I mean, I think I see kids beating each other in the face for like, what?

01:12:04.000 Because somebody looked at the other guy wrong?

01:12:06.000 I'm like, what?

01:12:07.000 I got him up and knocked my books out of my hand one time.

01:12:09.000 I was like, dude.

01:12:10.000 Me and my friends would purposely go in the lockers and hide in them.

01:12:13.000 Oh, that's not better.

01:12:14.000 So you wouldn't get beat up.

01:12:15.000 That's the strategy.

01:12:16.000 That's next level there.

01:12:17.000 We didn't really have that.

01:12:18.000 There's an episode of The Simpsons about that.

01:12:19.000 We didn't have that problem.

01:12:20.000 Well, so I only went to high school for a couple months.

01:12:22.000 But in grade school and the public school I went to, There wasn't really a big problem.

01:12:25.000 I got into a fight like once, I think.

01:12:27.000 Yeah, I got into one fight.

01:12:28.000 And it was with a friend of mine.

01:12:29.000 Yeah, he was a friend of mine too.

01:12:30.000 But like, we didn't really have bullies.

01:12:33.000 You know, it wasn't really a thing.

01:12:34.000 There was the popular kid and then people kind of just did their thing.

01:12:37.000 Someone stole my Pokemon game once.

01:12:38.000 That kind of pissed me off.

01:12:39.000 We used to walk through the halls and there'd be huge crowds of kids would be walking through the halls all like shuffling and I'd go... Because it looks like a bunch of cattle being shuffled around.

01:12:48.000 So you were the bully, Ian?

01:12:50.000 That's how I got back at him.

01:12:51.000 You guys ever see 30 Rock?

01:12:54.000 Where Tina Fey's character is talking about how everyone was always mean to her in high school?

01:12:59.000 And then it shows how she remembers them making fun of her.

01:13:02.000 But then what actually happened is everyone else remembers it and she was the bully and she was constantly insulting me. 0.79

01:13:07.000 I figured out why I was bullied though.

01:13:08.000 In elementary school I was really good friends with everybody.

01:13:10.000 Then we started playing sports and I was really bad.

01:13:12.000 I had indoor eyes because I watched TV and played video games a lot.

01:13:14.000 So I couldn't hit the baseball and my parents didn't help me get any training.

01:13:17.000 They said we couldn't afford it.

01:13:19.000 All the kids that were my friends in elementary school, just, I was on their baseball team, I would strike out every time.

01:13:23.000 And we were coming last every season.

01:13:25.000 So, middle school comes, I'm like, why are they so mean to me?

01:13:28.000 All my friends are not, they're all sitting over there and I'm alone at this table with the nerds now.

01:13:32.000 No offense, guys, if you're out there, I love you still.

01:13:35.000 And now I get it.

01:13:36.000 Looking back, it was because of my inability to integrate or adapt with these guys.

01:13:41.000 So I don't blame him anymore.

01:13:42.000 Well, how the tables have turned, because nowadays, you know, if a kid of that age isn't good at video games because he spent too much time playing sports, he's probably going to be ostracized.

01:13:49.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:13:50.000 I disagree.

01:13:51.000 I saw a post, I think this was from Alexis Ohanian, former, I think he was, I don't know if he's still with Reddit, but he was the founder of Reddit.

01:13:57.000 And he said, sports will be the only medium to survive because it's the only medium with no social media, digital or internet equivalent.

01:14:05.000 He's right.

01:14:06.000 So when you look at, like movies and stuff, It's online, it's streaming.

01:14:12.000 Sports, all of that, streaming and everything, but you need someone, you need the physical presence of the sport.

01:14:18.000 Esports obviously exists, but still, people are playing the games and actively doing things, whereas everything else is on demand.

01:14:25.000 You know, sporting events are still events.

01:14:28.000 The people I know who have cable have it specifically for sports at this point.

01:14:32.000 There's no other reason.

01:14:33.000 Exactly.

01:14:34.000 That's crazy, isn't it?

01:14:35.000 When it comes to movies, on-demand, watch what you want when you want to watch it.

01:14:35.000 Yeah.

01:14:38.000 When it comes to sporting events, well, those events are happening.

01:14:41.000 When it comes to music, well, music whenever you want.

01:14:44.000 You don't need to go to the concert.

01:14:45.000 You can watch the concert live streamed.

01:14:47.000 You can rerun sporting events for sure, but sporting events happen in the real world and people want to watch the real world versions of them.

01:14:54.000 So I think that's a fair point.

01:14:56.000 I think sporting will be the only thing to make it.

01:14:58.000 Yeah.

01:14:58.000 I do think eSports- Well, I'm not talking about institutional sports.

01:15:01.000 I'm just saying more and more kids are playing video games and spending time on social media and parents aren't putting as much emphasis on getting them involved in team sports.

01:15:08.000 How do you feel about that in general?

01:15:12.000 It's been declining over the years.

01:15:13.000 So even when I was a kid growing up in the late 90s, early 2000s, my parents would constantly talk about the fact that When they were kids, you'd be outside playing, you know, pickup baseball or whatever other sport, and my generation wasn't doing that as much.

01:15:28.000 But it's also, it's interesting because that also depends on where you grew up, because whenever I'd be out in the city with my cousins, we'd actually be more likely to play outdoor sports like that in the street.

01:15:37.000 Admit it, Seamus, you were a Southside Chicago troublemaker.

01:15:40.000 That's not true, all right?

01:15:41.000 I never went out there to cause no trouble.

01:15:43.000 You know what's funny?

01:15:44.000 This is really funny.

01:15:45.000 You know all the gangs in Chicago are basically like religious organizations?

01:15:49.000 Like the gangs are called the Disciples, the Bishops, the Popes.

01:15:54.000 No, I've heard some of the names.

01:15:55.000 That's interesting.

01:15:55.000 I think they're trying to co-opt the good name of these religious and clerical titles.

01:16:01.000 Yeah.

01:16:02.000 I mean, there are a bunch of gangs.

01:16:03.000 I mean, not the SDs, right?

01:16:05.000 What is it?

01:16:07.000 The SDs?

01:16:07.000 The Saint Disciples?

01:16:08.000 Saint Disciples.

01:16:08.000 And then there's like different sects of each of these gangs.

01:16:13.000 There were the Almighty Popes, the Insane Popes.

01:16:16.000 And I'm like, why are they the Popes?

01:16:18.000 There's one Pope, you know?

01:16:20.000 So what if they were like the Imams or something? 1.00

01:16:21.000 My friend was like, what's next, the Choir Boys?

01:16:23.000 What was your past like?

01:16:26.000 Did you grow up indoor or were you playing a lot of sports?

01:16:30.000 You know, I definitely played sports when I was young in elementary school and stuff.

01:16:34.000 I didn't so much get into them in high school, but then actually I really got into that kind of stuff actually in college.

01:16:41.000 I got into mixed martial arts and that kind of stuff and judo.

01:16:45.000 So it's not something that was a big part of my high school, but it's something I came to appreciate a little later.

01:16:50.000 So I wouldn't go to watch a ton of sporting events, but then with UFC and stuff I'd go out and watch the big fights and that kind of thing.

01:16:58.000 I have such a mixed feeling on athletics.

01:17:00.000 I know there's mad value in athletics and having kids wrestle and play and stuff, but I would play basketball and they would throw elbows at my face.

01:17:06.000 And I'm like, first of all, I don't want to get my cheekbone broken.

01:17:08.000 Second of all, I don't want to break that guy's cheekbone.

01:17:10.000 And it's going to be one or the other if you keep throwing elbows.

01:17:12.000 So I stopped playing.

01:17:13.000 Or you can skate.

01:17:15.000 Well, I fell off and dislocated my left toe, and I missed our Washington, D.C.

01:17:18.000 trip, so I was like, well, F that.

01:17:19.000 I'm not skating again.

01:17:21.000 Just start running.

01:17:22.000 The first day.

01:17:23.000 That hurt.

01:17:24.000 We used to go to cross country.

01:17:25.000 Oh, come on, dude.

01:17:26.000 No pain, no gain.

01:17:27.000 Ian, this is why you got bullied.

01:17:30.000 I'm going to do cross country my sophomore year of high school.

01:17:32.000 My friends are doing what I'm doing.

01:17:33.000 We go, and they're like, okay, first thing, conditioning.

01:17:36.000 Two hours a day after school, you're going to be pumping iron, running.

01:17:39.000 What the hell am I doing?

01:17:39.000 I'm like, what?

01:17:40.000 I feel so much pain.

01:17:42.000 I'm not enjoying a moment of it.

01:17:44.000 What is the purpose of running?

01:17:45.000 I run to get somewhere.

01:17:46.000 I don't run for fun.

01:17:49.000 I'm not a fan of running.

01:17:51.000 I like skating.

01:17:52.000 I don't like team sports.

01:17:53.000 I like individual sports.

01:17:56.000 Action sports are, in a sense, similar to martial arts.

01:17:59.000 It's an individual.

01:18:00.000 You're driving yourself.

01:18:01.000 You're pursuing something that you want to attain.

01:18:04.000 You accomplish your goals.

01:18:05.000 There's no cheating.

01:18:06.000 You can't lie.

01:18:07.000 I mean, you can lie, but people don't care.

01:18:08.000 They're like, you know, show me the video if you claim to do the trick.

01:18:10.000 It's like, oh, I did a frontboard down that 15 stair rail.

01:18:13.000 It's like, no, you didn't, dude.

01:18:14.000 We know you're lying.

01:18:15.000 We know you can't do that.

01:18:16.000 That's well beyond your capabilities.

01:18:17.000 But it's about you.

01:18:18.000 The only thing that really matters when you're skating is, can I overcome myself every day?

01:18:24.000 You're doing it for yourself to drive, to grow, to better yourself, and you get fit in the process.

01:18:29.000 And it hurts all the time.

01:18:30.000 It's called paying your dues.

01:18:31.000 Whenever someone falls... Paying your dues?

01:18:34.000 Paying your dues.

01:18:34.000 Oh, paying, yeah.

01:18:35.000 So whenever someone falls, I'm like, you gotta pay your dues.

01:18:38.000 You know, you don't get to, you know, launch off an 8-foot ramp 10, 12 feet in the air and then come down 300 times without taking one slam and hurting your elbow.

01:18:47.000 Pay your dues, Ian.

01:18:48.000 No pain, no gain.

01:18:49.000 You were gonna say something. 0.99

01:18:50.000 Oh, I was just gonna say that's one of the great things about something like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is it's something that teaches you, like, you can't be a jerk all the time. 0.98

01:18:56.000 Because, like, every single day you get on the mat and someone is immediately better than you. 0.90

01:19:00.000 When you step in, they're choking you out every single time.

01:19:02.000 They're tapping you out all the time.

01:19:04.000 And so you have to be humbled.

01:19:06.000 You have to learn to tell someone, like, yep, you could have totally killed me right there.

01:19:09.000 And then I have to get back on the mat with that person and learn to do it again and get better and better and better.

01:19:13.000 So, there's a self-improvement, but there's also a humility aspect at the same time.

01:19:17.000 And the people who succeed over time, I think, are usually the people who can take that on and learn from it.

01:19:22.000 I think it's really beneficial for people.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:19:24.000 I can't speak so much to Jiu-Jitsu, but I would agree.

01:19:26.000 I think, actually, self-improvement and humility are indispensable to one another.

01:19:29.000 I mean, you cannot improve unless you're willing to acknowledge that you're not perfect.

01:19:33.000 You guys ever see that episode of South Park about Sarcastable?

01:19:36.000 Yes.

01:19:37.000 They don't want the kids getting hurt, so they're all like, they're playing football with like balloons or whatever.

01:19:40.000 Oh yeah.

01:19:41.000 That's where we're going.

01:19:41.000 Everybody gets a trophy!

01:19:42.000 I was playing flag football because I was like, well the one sport I love is flag football because you don't have to ram into each other.

01:19:46.000 And so we were throwing the ball, I caught the ball, I was running so fast, so fast that I tore my MCL just by running.

01:19:53.000 I was, my mind was, it can make my body do things that the body can't handle.

01:19:57.000 And I had to learn that lesson in a bloody two week healing.

01:20:01.000 I didn't have any, Health insurance?

01:20:03.000 I just massaged it and held my hands on it for like two or three weeks as I limped around.

01:20:07.000 And to this day, it's not the same.

01:20:09.000 Yeah, my goal when I have kids is to have them do solo sports like rollerblading or skateboarding or skiing or snowboarding and also have them do team sports because I really feel like both of these different facets teach you different skills.

01:20:23.000 And I feel like you should probably have both of them.

01:20:25.000 Like teach your daughters how to dance.

01:20:27.000 You've got to teach them all how to like, I don't know, program computers.

01:20:29.000 There's lots of fun stuff you can do.

01:20:31.000 I think that sports is just one of the things that kids really need to engage with to really see how interesting physical fitness is.

01:20:38.000 And how good they can be at it gives them such a sense of accomplishment.

01:20:41.000 I think it's really powerful.

01:20:42.000 Parents, in my opinion, should be teaching, should be making their kids learn something, be it a sport or an instrument, but they should also be around other kids doing it so they have a community of peers that inspire them to, you know, better themselves.

01:20:55.000 I think one of the problems with a lot of, you know, a lot of people, friends of mine who've been growing, when we were growing up, they're like, my parents make me do this or that.

01:21:03.000 It's like, my mom's making me go to piano lessons.

01:21:06.000 I don't want to go.

01:21:06.000 Well, the reason they want to go is because we were all going to hang out at the park.

01:21:09.000 If they were hanging out playing, you know, in band with a group of kids and writing songs, they'd be like, oh, yay, I'm really excited.

01:21:16.000 My mom's dropping me off with my friends to play music.

01:21:19.000 So that was always fascinating to me.

01:21:20.000 I was like, why don't you like playing piano?

01:21:22.000 I love playing guitar.

01:21:23.000 I go and hang out with my friends and play the guitar.

01:21:25.000 We write songs.

01:21:26.000 Ah, none of your friends play piano or play music.

01:21:28.000 They do other things.

01:21:30.000 One of the biggest problems, you know, I noticed when I was growing up was how many parents had their kids do literally nothing.

01:21:35.000 They'd be like, ah, they're kids.

01:21:36.000 It's like, well, what do you mean, they're kids?

01:21:39.000 Well, they're just gonna go ride their bikes and play games.

01:21:41.000 When I was, when I was, you know, 10, 13, I was doing Flash animation.

01:21:46.000 I was making websites on Flash, I was reading news, I was developing my own video games, I was building my own computers, I was learning how to play the guitar and the drums, and I was skateboarding.

01:21:54.000 All of those things.

01:21:56.000 And I love doing all those things.

01:21:57.000 Why was I doing them, though?

01:21:58.000 For one, I'm very much, you know, always been self-driven and curious, and I wanted to learn how to do things.

01:22:04.000 I wanted to, like, make these games.

01:22:05.000 I wanted to make them better.

01:22:06.000 I thought they were done wrong.

01:22:07.000 But also, my friends, for the most part, at the skate park were skating.

01:22:11.000 I had another group of friends that had a band, and if I wanted to hang out with them during band, like, I had to play an instrument.

01:22:17.000 I had a bunch of friends who had computers and were on the internet and built their own computers and were hacking stuff and I was like, oh yeah, when I come home from skating and playing music, I can go on AIM and talk to them and we can goof off.

01:22:26.000 So there was actually a community that, you know, encouraged me to do this as well.

01:22:30.000 What were your guys' main, like, play things that you would do growing up?

01:22:34.000 Well I called in to talk radio when I was like in fifth grade so I'm a very normal person.

01:22:40.000 I have a very particular brain and so yeah.

01:22:42.000 I love that.

01:22:44.000 I tried calling to talk radio.

01:22:45.000 They'd never take my calls.

01:22:47.000 I was gonna say I used to write letters to the editor when I was like nine and some of them got published and I was always so proud.

01:22:53.000 Uh, I used to hang out at a comic shop playing Pokemon and Magic the Gathering.

01:22:58.000 And we would get there super early, as soon as they opened on Saturday.

01:23:02.000 We'd watch Dragon Ball Z in the background.

01:23:04.000 We would play, when the Dragon Ball Z card game came out, we'd play that.

01:23:09.000 We'd play Pokemon.

01:23:09.000 Eventually we stopped playing Pokemon because it was just...

01:23:12.000 When the Japanese cards made it over and they weren't regulated properly, none of us had the money to compete.

01:23:17.000 So we started playing Magic, we started drafting.

01:23:19.000 But, by around noon, we're all bored, so we'd grab our skateboards and we'd go skate around the neighborhood for a few hours.

01:23:24.000 We'd leave our backpacks at the card shop, then come back later when everyone's drafting and keep playing.

01:23:28.000 Yeah, we would do it with bikes.

01:23:29.000 That was very similar.

01:23:30.000 In the early days, I played a lot of video games, as much video games as I could, since I was like three.

01:23:35.000 Atari.

01:23:35.000 But then my mom would be like, get off the video games!

01:23:37.000 And throw me out of the house and stuff.

01:23:39.000 Get out of here! 0.99

01:23:40.000 Be outside for three hours!

01:23:41.000 So I started making movies.

01:23:42.000 You're gonna get bullied!

01:23:43.000 Go out there!

01:23:43.000 Ian, this is why you're getting bullied!

01:23:45.000 This is why you're getting bullied, Ian!

01:23:47.000 Grow your hair out!

01:23:48.000 Oh, you only run to get somewhere?

01:23:50.000 You're never gonna get anywhere!

01:23:51.000 So I started play acting.

01:23:52.000 We'd go around the neighborhood and be like, okay, I'm John and you're Lisa.

01:23:56.000 And then we'd be like characters and then I got into acting later in life.

01:23:59.000 But I don't think I would have done that if she didn't kick me off the video games over and over. 0.97

01:24:02.000 I'm concerned about the metaverse.

01:24:03.000 It was actually a heartwarming story.

01:24:06.000 Until the drugs.

01:24:08.000 Oh, it's still heartwarming.

01:24:11.000 Let's talk about this one other story, just totally off, just random.

01:24:14.000 From TimCast.com, South Carolina schedules first execution since completion of firing squad chamber.

01:24:21.000 Is this a picture of it?

01:24:22.000 South Carolina has scheduled its first execution of a death row inmate since completing the firing squad chamber.

01:24:28.000 Now hold on there a minute, guys.

01:24:29.000 Are you saying they're going to firing squad this person?

01:24:32.000 They say executions in the state have been halted for the last decade due to the difficulty of obtaining the drugs used for lethal injections, leaving 35 death row inmates in limbo.

01:24:40.000 Last year, they made the electric chair their primary method for carrying out death, but said that they would give inmates an option to choose death by firing squad or lethal injection.

01:24:49.000 Panel! 0.88

01:24:50.000 Which would you prefer? 0.99

01:24:52.000 Lethal injection, electric chair, firing squad?

01:24:56.000 I'm definitely going to go with the firing squad for the coolness factor, though I'm pretty sure the lethal injection's probably not as painful.

01:25:03.000 It's the most painful.

01:25:04.000 It could be.

01:25:05.000 I guess it depends on how, because the cocktail's been messed up before, right?

01:25:08.000 No, no, no, no.

01:25:09.000 It literally is the most painful.

01:25:10.000 It is?

01:25:10.000 Oh, okay.

01:25:11.000 Yeah, they paralyze you first, so you can't express the pain.

01:25:14.000 But it's my understanding, because I read a lot about it, is that lethal injection is actually a slow, excruciating death.

01:25:20.000 No, I would think that electric chair would be the worst, right?

01:25:23.000 Yeah.

01:25:24.000 But yeah, no, I would go with firing squad for sure.

01:25:25.000 Your eyes like, don't they like boil and burst? 0.55

01:25:27.000 Oh my gosh, wow.

01:25:29.000 I would think carbon monoxide poisoning.

01:25:31.000 I don't know why they don't do that.

01:25:32.000 That would be painless.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, they actually do.

01:25:35.000 They have these suicide pots where they gradually increase the level of carbon.

01:25:39.000 Oh yeah, where was that?

01:25:40.000 I think it's Sweden or something.

01:25:41.000 Yeah, we talked about that before.

01:25:42.000 The suicide boots. 0.97

01:25:43.000 I pick firing squad. 0.94

01:25:44.000 Somebody watched too much Futurama.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.92

01:25:46.000 Gross, but I'd have to take the firing squad. 0.93

01:25:48.000 I think I'd take the firing squad. 0.98

01:25:49.000 What about you, Seamus?

01:25:50.000 Yeah, honestly, I think firing squad would probably be the least painful.

01:25:54.000 Did they get rid of it because they didn't want the soldiers to feel guilty about like who hit the killing bullet?

01:25:58.000 That's why they do it.

01:25:58.000 No, no, no.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:26:00.000 No one knows who actually killed the person.

01:26:02.000 Right.

01:26:02.000 I think one of them has a gun with blanks in it or something like that.

01:26:04.000 Really?

01:26:04.000 Yeah.

01:26:05.000 Interesting.

01:26:06.000 And so you could be the one who had the blanks.

01:26:09.000 So you don't know.

01:26:09.000 Yeah.

01:26:10.000 That's perfect.

01:26:11.000 But it's also, it's, I mean, I guess the problem with the firing squad is like, what if they all hit your stomach?

01:26:18.000 What do you guys think of- well, first of all, so I oppose the death penalty.

01:26:27.000 I don't- I would prefer none of these things.

01:26:29.000 And, um, the issue I have with it is, if you've contained someone already, I don't see a reason to end their life.

01:26:35.000 Like, they're- they're not- don't let them out, obviously, if they're, like, serious offenders.

01:26:39.000 But if they're, like, locked in a concrete box...

01:26:43.000 What sucks is, like, you gotta pay for them.

01:26:46.000 You've gotta pay for their food and their life and everything, and that's more than a lot of people deserve, that's for sure. 0.99

01:26:50.000 But then it's just a scary thought to me to be, like, killing people.

01:26:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:55.000 Yeah, but how is locking them away forever working, right?

01:26:57.000 We don't do that.

01:26:58.000 Like, that's the problem is that we do all this early release stuff.

01:27:02.000 You know, something comes out, you have COVID issues or, you know, someone can be rehabilitated.

01:27:07.000 That would be a better option.

01:27:08.000 That actually used to be, right?

01:27:09.000 That was the worst penalty you could receive in a lot of cultures was, you know, you just were, you know, sent to the hinterlands and you couldn't, but, but now, you know, global community, it's not as big a punishment as it used to be.

01:27:20.000 I mean, let's play this game.

01:27:22.000 Electric chair, lethal injection, firing squad, or they put you in a little dinghy and kick you off into the ocean.

01:27:29.000 I'd take the ocean on that one. 0.87

01:27:30.000 You see, most people would be like, yeah, but you starve to death.

01:27:33.000 Either you starve or you find land.

01:27:34.000 They kick you out into international waters and say good luck.

01:27:37.000 At least you got a chance.

01:27:39.000 What do you think other countries would say?

01:27:41.000 They'd be like, dude, your murderers are washing up on our shores.

01:27:43.000 They'd go, they're not sending their best, okay?

01:27:46.000 They're not sending their best to us.

01:27:49.000 I mean, I guess there's, like, islands, you know, you can just eat coconuts or whatever.

01:27:53.000 So what do you guys think about death penalty?

01:27:54.000 Are you for the death penalty?

01:27:55.000 Nah, death penalty's bad. 0.98

01:27:55.000 What do you guys think? 0.98

01:27:57.000 You're pretty against it by nature.

01:27:59.000 Shamus, what are you feeling?

01:28:00.000 I'm not, yeah, I don't, uh, I lean, yeah, against, I would say.

01:28:04.000 I lean towards against, but it's not something I've completely worked out.

01:28:08.000 What do you think, Orin?

01:28:09.000 Yeah, I'm pro.

01:28:10.000 Like, you have a situation where people do heinous things, you need a good deterrent, you need to send a message for those things.

01:28:18.000 And like I said, also, the indefinite incarceration thing I think is often crueler, but on top of that is also extremely costly and unlikely to occur in the long run as societies find ways to release these people.

01:28:32.000 Here's my question for you.

01:28:33.000 How many innocent people are you willing to kill to guarantee you kill the bad guys?

01:28:37.000 Well, again, this is always the question of all rule enforcement throughout all society, right?

01:28:40.000 How many innocent people are we willing to lock away in prison?

01:28:43.000 How many innocent people are we willing to kill?

01:28:45.000 And the answer is, you're always going to have fault.

01:28:48.000 Any legal system is going to have some level of failure.

01:28:51.000 I get it, I get it.

01:28:52.000 But how many innocent people would you personally be willing to kill to make sure the bad guys get killed?

01:28:56.000 Again, I don't have a hard number, but it wouldn't be zero.

01:28:59.000 But it's greater than one.

01:29:00.000 Yeah.

01:29:01.000 You see, I have a problem with that, right?

01:29:03.000 If there's but one righteous person.

01:29:06.000 I don't trust the state.

01:29:07.000 I don't trust people like Kamala. 1.00

01:29:09.000 We've seen how she's acted towards people who should have been released from prison, people who had evidence exonerating them, and her department was like, nah, we're gonna keep them anyway.

01:29:18.000 The state has more often shown that it's willing to cover up its faults because they don't want people to realize

01:29:24.000 they execute innocent people.

01:29:25.000 So they'll lie about it and execute innocent people.

01:29:28.000 And it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

01:29:32.000 My solution to that, I suppose, is called the Second Amendment.

01:29:34.000 I look at what the Founding Fathers had in mind.

01:29:36.000 Don't have innocent people suffer, everybody gets guns.

01:29:39.000 Well that means there may be accidents There may be conflict but you you leave more up to the individuals to defend themselves It's their personal responsibility and you leave more up to the state I mean the state backs away from potentially killing innocent people which it has even even in the founding fathers time the the issue I I find here with the death penalty is If the amount of innocent people is greater than one, then the state is murdering innocent people, and I don't think it's worth it if you've locked someone in a box.

01:30:09.000 They can't get out. 0.88

01:30:11.000 The worst case scenario in this circumstance is you've got an innocent person locked in a box, but at least you're not killing them and making an innocent person walk down Death row to an electric chair or a firing squad or a lethal injection because just imagine being that person and them saying hey look we get it You might be innocent, but hey systems got to do what the system does I say screw that man lock the person in the box lock them away There's 35 people it sucks, but my attitude is I would personally rather pay 0.66

01:30:40.000 What I could to keep these people locked up permanently than to be party to the execution of an innocent person.

01:30:47.000 It's not easy though.

01:30:48.000 But imagine you're that family, right?

01:30:49.000 You're the, you're the family of that victim.

01:30:51.000 And now you have to watch this person, you know, spend, you know, five, 10 years and then getting out early.

01:30:57.000 I don't believe in retribution.

01:30:59.000 So that's, you know, not, I don't care.

01:31:01.000 I think you should.

01:31:03.000 I think that that's part of justice.

01:31:05.000 I think that when you take someone's life, you should pay for it.

01:31:08.000 I think that when you hurt another person's family, that's something you should pay for.

01:31:12.000 I think justice should be retributed in many ways.

01:31:15.000 Like eye for an eye?

01:31:16.000 How far do you go?

01:31:17.000 Eye for an eye?

01:31:17.000 I mean, again, obviously you can get lost in how harsh you can get, but I think that a system that says, oh, this is only for deterrence sake, or it should never be retributive, is outweighing the rights of the criminal more than the rights of the victims.

01:31:38.000 And I think that sends a message, and I think over time it always devolves into a scenario where people are getting fewer sentences released early, they're being soft on these things, and you inevitably end up in a situation that we are now, where we have crimes that aren't punished in many of these jurisdictions.

01:31:52.000 I don't think those things correlate. 0.98

01:31:53.000 Like, the reason criminals are being released is because the left is advocating for their release for stupid reasons. 0.99

01:31:58.000 We should have... Many people should be in prison much longer, and many people should be in prison much less. 0.99

01:32:03.000 Non-violent drug offenses, it's like, come on.

01:32:05.000 But then you get violent offenders who commit murder and get out in a few years.

01:32:08.000 Now that's a problem.

01:32:09.000 I don't think retribution makes sense, and Eye for an Eye leaves the whole world blind.

01:32:13.000 Everyone's got a grievance against somebody else, and they all want retribution for their perceived slights.

01:32:18.000 And what happens when a victim falsely accuses someone, or wrongly, because they're emotionally driven and driven by passion instead of logic?

01:32:27.000 So the state often, it's supposed to, try its best to sort the facts and make sure that it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

01:32:36.000 Often they do.

01:32:37.000 Often we've seen circumstances where people like Kamala are willing to leave people to rot in prison even if they're innocent.

01:32:43.000 Her department, her office did this.

01:32:47.000 That's what's been reported.

01:32:48.000 That's how it's been reported.

01:32:49.000 And then I'm supposed to sit back and just trust the state that they're not making mistakes and that the retribution is just.

01:32:57.000 What happens if the state executes an innocent person because the family wanted retribution?

01:33:02.000 Let's say a family member of mine is on death row and the family's like, they did it.

01:33:06.000 I know they did it.

01:33:07.000 And so they say, we demand retribution.

01:33:08.000 And the state says, we're going to grant that retribution. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Execute my friend or family member. 0.85

01:33:13.000 And then a day later, evidence comes out exonerating them.

01:33:16.000 Am I entitled to retribution against the executioner?

01:33:18.000 Do I get to put him on death row because he killed my loved one?

01:33:21.000 The answer should be yes, right?

01:33:23.000 Where's my retribution against the state for killing an innocent person that I loved?

01:33:26.000 You don't get it.

01:33:27.000 So the problem is there is no retribution.

01:33:29.000 The state kills people to shut people up.

01:33:32.000 They let rioters riot because they don't care.

01:33:35.000 They put innocent people in prison in these riots.

01:33:38.000 They arrest innocent people because they want to avoid riots.

01:33:41.000 This is the problem with the state.

01:33:43.000 You can't trust them.

01:33:45.000 You can trust them sometimes for some things.

01:33:47.000 You can cross your fingers.

01:33:48.000 But if the issue is they're not completely trustworthy, then we can't allow the state to take extreme or permanent actions because we can't ever confirm 100% what they're doing is right.

01:33:57.000 You shouldn't trust anyone, really, in that situation.

01:33:59.000 That's up to you to survive on this reality floor.

01:34:02.000 I used to be very pro-death penalty, without a question. 1.00

01:34:05.000 Like, yeah, if they're a killer and they're not going to stop, kill them. 0.99

01:34:08.000 But then I started to think about the Nazis, and man, they would just execute people at will. 1.00

01:34:08.000 Get them out of here. 1.00

01:34:15.000 And so are the Soviets. 0.91

01:34:17.000 I have a very American blinder on when I think about things, and Michael Malice has really opened my eyes to this, as well as Luke Rutkowski, coming from the Soviet Union.

01:34:26.000 Their families are from the Soviet Union.

01:34:27.000 It's like, yo, the state is not the benevolent god that you think it is.

01:34:31.000 I was really indoctrinated growing up.

01:34:33.000 But wouldn't you say that different governments do things for different reasons?

01:34:37.000 So regardless of how you feel about the death penalty, couldn't you say, well, you know, when Stalin and Hitler were killing people for bad reasons, that didn't necessarily mean there couldn't be good reasons for another government to do it.

01:34:47.000 And again, this is someone who I've acknowledged I don't really have a fleshed out position on the death penalty.

01:34:51.000 Yeah, I think you could kill for a good reason, to be honest.

01:34:54.000 There's a scaling question in the death penalty, and it pertains to war.

01:34:59.000 Right?

01:34:59.000 Someone like Hitler or Stalin.

01:35:01.000 Yeah, those people die.

01:35:02.000 And those people die because you're in war, and they're actively killing and massacring by the millions, and you're trying to actively stop them.

01:35:09.000 My question is, if someone's been actively stopped already, and, you know, it's like... I suppose the great philosophical question has been asked, answered in many ways, in many of these Batman comics.

01:35:21.000 The injustice storyline.

01:35:22.000 You guys fans of DC at all?

01:35:25.000 You know, when Joker, depending on which version of the storyline, Joker drugs Superman, Superman kills Lois, Superman loses it, and he's like, to Batman, if you just killed this man, these people wouldn't have died.

01:35:37.000 Or there's like another story, I can't remember which one it is, but, you know, Joker plants a nuke and blows up Metropolis, and Superman's like, you could have killed him, and saved millions.

01:35:46.000 And then Damien Wayne, this is in the video game, I think it's from the comic as well.

01:35:51.000 He's like, you've had every opportunity to stop these murderers and you don't.

01:35:55.000 Batman won't do it.

01:35:56.000 And they get out and they murder again.

01:35:58.000 And he's like, enough.

01:35:59.000 And then, you know, the Justice League goes dark and they're like just executing criminals and stuff.

01:36:04.000 There's great philosophical questions about how to handle things.

01:36:07.000 My issue ultimately comes down to, I just don't trust the state.

01:36:10.000 I've seen a lot of people.

01:36:12.000 I don't trust them. 0.97

01:36:13.000 These big cities are run by corrupt lunatics, and I think Kamala Harris should terrify people. 1.00

01:36:19.000 Yeah, we have laws in place so you don't have to trust the state. 0.97

01:36:21.000 You're supposed to trust the law.

01:36:23.000 Oh, he was about to say something I wanted to say.

01:36:24.000 I was just going to say that your first gulp of inept government will turn you into a libertarian.

01:36:29.000 But I think at the bottom of that glass, competent government is the key.

01:36:34.000 Because it's very tempting to say, when you look at a government that's corrupt and inept, to say, just get government out of everything.

01:36:41.000 That's the easy thing, right?

01:36:42.000 This is what the right has been doing and libertarians have been doing for many years.

01:36:45.000 Well, just get my kids out of the government school.

01:36:47.000 Then I don't have to worry what's being taught there.

01:36:48.000 Well, just get my kids away from this influence, what's happening in the media.

01:36:52.000 Well, I'll just start my own business and then I don't have to care what's going on with these things.

01:36:56.000 Saying that if we just keep exiting each one of these arenas, that eventually, you know, we'll be able to solve the problem.

01:37:02.000 But the issue is that that never solves the problem.

01:37:05.000 They always end up coming after you.

01:37:06.000 You never just get to get away, right?

01:37:09.000 And so the easy out is to say, we just take the power of government away, right?

01:37:13.000 This is what we're taught, is that we just reduce the power of government, or we put checks and balances, a limit on the power of government, and then therefore we don't have to worry what government does, because there's the system that holds it in check for us.

01:37:24.000 The truth is that at the end of the day that doesn't work.

01:37:26.000 That never works.

01:37:27.000 The government always retains that power.

01:37:29.000 Someone's always making these decisions of the state and they are always taking that power.

01:37:32.000 They're always increasing and centralizing the power.

01:37:34.000 The question is who wields it?

01:37:36.000 You want someone competent?

01:37:37.000 You don't just want to pretend like you can run away forever.

01:37:40.000 All right, we gotta go to Super Chats.

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01:37:51.000 I was actually thinking maybe we should make a commercial for the show and do like our first ever marketing run.

01:37:55.000 We've never done anything like that.

01:37:57.000 Maybe we'll do like an ad spot on YouTube or something or some other podcast.

01:38:01.000 I always just assumed if people really liked the show, they would just share it because they liked it.

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01:38:16.000 Let's read some of these superchats.

01:38:17.000 We got Jeremy Gardner who says, I'm a server of 15 years and loved your conversation about servers last week.

01:38:23.000 Tips have everything to do with culture and nothing to do with race.

01:38:26.000 I can tell what someone will tip me 99 out of 100 times.

01:38:29.000 People can never- I always tip insane amounts, like 200-300%.

01:38:33.000 And it's funny, you know, we went out to eat today, and the servers were actually like,

01:38:39.000 do you want to take this group? And the other lady was like, I guess. 0.96

01:38:44.000 Sure, I'll take them.

01:38:44.000 And she was like, okay, thanks.

01:38:45.000 And then I'm like, wow.

01:38:47.000 I wonder if that lady who gave up us as a group regrets it, because we tipped like 200 bucks. 0.99

01:38:52.000 And so the other lady was probably just like, yes! 1.00

01:38:54.000 And then the other server was like, no! 0.73

01:38:56.000 That's how it goes, man.

01:38:57.000 You never know.

01:38:59.000 All right.

01:39:00.000 Adam Noel says, hey, TimCastCrew.

01:39:01.000 My name is Adam Noel, and I just emailed you guys a song to spin the UFO.

01:39:05.000 Please look for Political Punk Rock Opera.

01:39:07.000 Tim, get ready.

01:39:09.000 Well, all right.

01:39:09.000 We'll take a look.

01:39:10.000 You want to write that down?

01:39:12.000 Blueheart says her name is Stretchin' Gretchen. 1.00

01:39:15.000 What is that, a reference to doing yoga or something?

01:39:16.000 Gretchen Whitmer? 0.97

01:39:17.000 Most likely.

01:39:17.000 I don't know.

01:39:18.000 Oh, she does yoga? 0.96

01:39:19.000 I don't know.

01:39:21.000 Interesting.

01:39:21.000 I'm just trying to veer away from the dirty thoughts.

01:39:26.000 Chris Larson says, Hey Tim, I live in South Dakota and Christine Noem banned teaching CRT in schools.

01:39:31.000 Not sure if you knew or not, but I think it's very interesting.

01:39:34.000 I suppose the issue is they just go, well, we're not teaching critical race theory.

01:39:39.000 We're just applying critical race theory to what we teach.

01:39:42.000 Yep.

01:39:42.000 Praxis.

01:39:43.000 Yep.

01:39:43.000 Praxis.

01:39:44.000 That's right.

01:39:47.000 Jason Fisher says, speaking of Dennis Prager, you should have someone from PragerU in the show.

01:39:51.000 In the show.

01:39:52.000 We certainly could.

01:39:54.000 I don't know.

01:39:55.000 Who should we have from Prager?

01:39:57.000 Dennis himself?

01:39:57.000 That'd be great.

01:39:58.000 That'd be great.

01:39:59.000 He's smart.

01:39:59.000 I've had Will Witt on my channel.

01:40:00.000 He's a good guy.

01:40:01.000 Oh yeah, we'll whip.

01:40:03.000 Dawn's Herald says, Your discussion on religion yesterday was the best I've seen yet.

01:40:07.000 If you want a thought-provoking look into the afterlife, check out C.S.

01:40:10.000 Lewis's The Great Divorce, easily my favorite short story.

01:40:14.000 Yes, yesterday with Andrew Klavan, we talked religion over at TimCast.com, the members-only segment.

01:40:18.000 It was really, really good.

01:40:19.000 It was intense.

01:40:21.000 It was a lot of fun.

01:40:22.000 I love The Great Divorce.

01:40:23.000 C.S.

01:40:23.000 Lewis is one of my favorite authors of all time.

01:40:25.000 What's it about?

01:40:27.000 It's about this guy who goes on a trip and he doesn't really realize it, but it turns out he's in hell and he's been traveling to heaven.

01:40:34.000 And as he goes through this, slowly little bits of his pride are taken away as the angel reveals the things that are holding him back into hell.

01:40:43.000 And he starts seeing all the foolish things he's been trying to hold on to.

01:40:48.000 It's really excellent. 0.90

01:40:49.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:50.000 Cool.

01:40:52.000 Young Pei Chang says, Hi guys, Auron.

01:40:55.000 I've read your tweets, retweeted from Michael Malice, and I've referenced some of your videos when trying to explain to other folks about the definition of a midwit.

01:41:03.000 Yeah, one of my bigger videos was explaining midwittery and what that means and where that comes from.

01:41:09.000 We're in the middle of a midwit epidemic. 0.90

01:41:12.000 Do you have an elevator pitch on midwits?

01:41:14.000 Yeah, basically a midwit is someone who is just slightly above average intelligence, and so because they're just slightly above average, it's one of the things that defines them.

01:41:24.000 They're smarter than most people.

01:41:25.000 They're smart people.

01:41:26.000 But they're never the smartest person in the room.

01:41:28.000 And because they're never the smartest person in the room, they're always reaching for it.

01:41:31.000 They always want to prove themselves.

01:41:33.000 The smartest person in the room, they know what they're doing.

01:41:36.000 It's like someone who knows how to fight.

01:41:37.000 They don't need to prove that.

01:41:38.000 They know.

01:41:39.000 They don't have to go around talking tough because they know it.

01:41:42.000 Midwit's in the same scenario.

01:41:43.000 And so because of that, they like to learn things like little bits of language.

01:41:47.000 This is why wokeness and progressivism is so attractive to a midwit. 1.00

01:41:51.000 Because by keeping up on the jargon, they can look more intelligent than they are.

01:41:55.000 They can use that as Have you seen that video where they ask everyone to judge people based on how they look on their intelligence?

01:42:03.000 And there's one woman where she's just like, I can tell you're not very smart. 1.00

01:42:07.000 And then they all take IQ tests, and then they're told to sit down from smartest to least smart. 1.00

01:42:11.000 And the woman who was really cocky turns out to be the stupidest person. 1.00

01:42:14.000 Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me at all. 1.00

01:42:15.000 That was funny.

01:42:15.000 Oren, do you think that the people in Bill Maher's audience were midwits?

01:42:18.000 Because that was the first thing I thought of.

01:42:19.000 They're all laughing.

01:42:21.000 So one of the things about midwittery is like when you learn things when you're young, you learn them at a low resolution, right?

01:42:29.000 You learn very simple things about them.

01:42:31.000 Sometimes they're actually completely wrong, but you have to learn kind of a wrong version before you as a young person, you can eventually grasp the more complex version.

01:42:39.000 What midwits do is they learn to deconstruct that child's version of understanding things like God or the history of America.

01:42:47.000 They treat and they learn to deconstruct that stuff and they think because they're deconstructing the simplistic version, they're very intelligent.

01:42:53.000 And they're rewarded in the educational system and in popular culture for doing this.

01:42:58.000 And so they keep doing it even to adulthood.

01:43:00.000 They never learn about the more complicated version, but they think they're being very intelligent.

01:43:04.000 They're smart enough to know they're not smart enough.

01:43:06.000 Yeah.

01:43:07.000 And so there was a guy that my friends knew who was mentally, developmentally disabled.

01:43:15.000 But he was smart enough to know he was, and it was like a weird position because, like, he was limited in what he could do, but he was also cognizant of that fact.

01:43:22.000 So it's like, a lot of these midwits are that way.

01:43:25.000 They're on Twitter.

01:43:25.000 They're not successful people.

01:43:27.000 They know they're smarter than most people, but they're not smart enough to run a business or survive or succeed, so they end up just... angry.

01:43:36.000 They deserve more, don't they?

01:43:38.000 And so I think you see a lot of that with the woke activists.

01:43:41.000 They assume that the system must be broken because certainly someone as smart as them should have money and wealth and fame and power.

01:43:47.000 Instead, they got 20,000 followers on Twitter and they can't pay their bills.

01:43:51.000 Yeah, it's the problem with public schools is it makes people feel like a success when they get all A's, but man, they're not prepared for the real world.

01:43:56.000 All right.

01:43:57.000 Young says, Tim, Elijah Schaefer said he will be doing things in Nashville next week, too.

01:44:02.000 Are you guys going to be doing something together there?

01:44:04.000 Also, Seamus, your appearance on Matt Fradd's channel helped me impress a new Catholic friend.

01:44:09.000 Oh, well, thank you so much.

01:44:11.000 I think we're... We are.

01:44:13.000 We do have plans to bring Elijah on one of those evenings.

01:44:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:16.000 I love that guy, man.

01:44:17.000 Mr. Schaefer.

01:44:19.000 John Boyle says, Yo, Tim, when will we be able to watch the IRL and members segment live over at TimCastIRL.com?

01:44:26.000 The member segments are recorded and then uploaded.

01:44:28.000 But as for the show itself, well, you know what we need?

01:44:31.000 We need a web dev, backend, and webmaster kind of person.

01:44:36.000 We need someone who knows how to do all the code, how to handle all the WordPress plugins, integrations, API, all that stuff.

01:44:42.000 So we're actually looking.

01:44:43.000 So I guess jobs at TimCast.com and then hopefully someone here can filter through that and try and figure out, you know, how to get somebody a job.

01:44:52.000 Cause we are, we are actually in, uh, what's the, what's the right way to describe it?

01:44:56.000 We are, we need to hire someone like by Monday.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:45:00.000 And the tech we're working on with, uh, the, the foundation that we're building is, uh, it's, it's still pre-alpha.

01:45:06.000 So it's like just too early to do that with timcast.com just yet.

01:45:10.000 But I would really like to do that eventually.

01:45:13.000 All right, wait, I saw another Super Chat and I have to find it.

01:45:17.000 Oh, now I feel bad.

01:45:18.000 It was great because someone else replied to the Super Chat.

01:45:22.000 Oh, well, maybe if I go through it again, I can find it.

01:45:26.000 Give me a quick second here, guys.

01:45:27.000 Lydia, I just want to tell you I love you, by the way, man.

01:45:29.000 You're awesome.

01:45:30.000 Oh, thank you.

01:45:31.000 Okay, it's right here.

01:45:32.000 So Jeff Lineberger says, thanks for getting me through the two and a half hours of traffic every day here in California.

01:45:38.000 What do you think is a good platform for more art-based political content?

01:45:41.000 Rumble doesn't seem suited for that.

01:45:43.000 I don't know.

01:45:45.000 Seamus, you're the artist.

01:45:47.000 I was looking for this.

01:45:50.000 It's from Jubilee.

01:45:51.000 It's a video where they have strangers rank each other's intelligence on a scale of 1 to 6.

01:45:57.000 What's a good platform for art-based political content?

01:45:59.000 Oh man, I mean I'm still using YouTube.

01:46:01.000 Look at me.

01:46:04.000 We're working on a paywall on the website now, so give me a break.

01:46:08.000 It's difficult to format for different social media websites too.

01:46:12.000 The aspect ratios change.

01:46:13.000 When we do YouTube, I can just upload the videos in 1920x1080.

01:46:16.000 When I do TikTok, I have to reanimate all the characters so they're pretending they have charrettes.

01:46:21.000 So the follow-up there was from Adrian Contreras who says, I feel you, Jeff.

01:46:25.000 I'm on the 101 right now by Thousand Oaks.

01:46:27.000 It's brutal.

01:46:29.000 Shout out to our friends who are stuck in traffic together while listening to the show.

01:46:32.000 The struggle.

01:46:34.000 Right.

01:46:36.000 Austin L says, Hey Tim, have you noticed we keep saying woke companies hate us and they never deny it.

01:46:41.000 They never say, of course we don't hate our customers.

01:46:44.000 It's just the silence of them not disagreeing with that statement.

01:46:48.000 Yeah, they hate their customers.

01:46:49.000 They really do.

01:46:51.000 It's it's it's it's sad, but I do kind of feel like a lot of the stuff is falling apart They've got some new Marvel shows coming out and they're just like it's it's lost its luster Yeah, I feel like the Marvel movies.

01:47:02.000 They're probably gonna make money, but we've been culturally stagnant for a long time Man, that Jeremy's Razors commercial was awesome.

01:47:10.000 Last I looked at it, it had over 7 million views.

01:47:13.000 That stuff is degrading, but you can also see the growth, where it's growing, and that's with Daily Wire, man.

01:47:19.000 Think about how much Daily Wire is going to make off of, what do they have, like 70,000 Razor subscribers now or something? 0.93

01:47:24.000 Ridiculous. 0.85

01:47:26.000 Oh, I don't know. 0.96

01:47:26.000 That's awesome. 0.96

01:47:27.000 They're probably making so much money off of that.

01:47:29.000 It's like the Daily Wire shuts down because they're like, well, we were making hundreds of millions off of the Razors, and we just figured we didn't need to meet it anymore. 0.99

01:47:35.000 That's way easier than content, right?

01:47:36.000 Yeah, just crank those out.

01:47:37.000 Crank them out, huh?

01:47:38.000 No, but they wouldn't do that.

01:47:39.000 They're gonna do more.

01:47:40.000 They're doing kids' shows.

01:47:42.000 Jay says, Shamus, are you going down to Nashville too?

01:47:44.000 You should have a debate with Ben using your impression of him.

01:47:47.000 Have Candace be the judge. 1.00

01:47:48.000 Should be a load of laughs.

01:47:49.000 Okay, so here's what actually would happen if I went down to Nashville and talked to Ben Shapiro as Ben Shapiro.

01:47:52.000 He would get so intimidated by my ability to impersonate him, he'd have an identity crisis, and then he would become Freedom Toons.

01:47:57.000 And if Ben Shapiro was making Freedom Toons instead of me, that would be a disaster.

01:47:59.000 Okay, folks?

01:48:00.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:48:01.000 It would be like, you both would be mirroring each other and saying the same things.

01:48:05.000 And then, like, energy would start to mass and a singularity would form.

01:48:09.000 It would be recursive.

01:48:09.000 It would be like, Seamus, stop!

01:48:12.000 It would be the... Again, it's too late, gang.

01:48:14.000 Honestly, it's too late.

01:48:15.000 It would be like the dialogue- It's too late.

01:48:16.000 It would be like the dialogue-based equivalent to that scene in Duck Soup where the mirror breaks and the guy on the other side of the mirror is trying to imitate Groucho Marx.

01:48:26.000 Have you guys not seen Duck Soup?

01:48:27.000 This is classic comedy.

01:48:28.000 This is like...

01:48:29.000 It's incredible stuff.

01:48:30.000 There's a great scene where I believe it's Chico is trying to sneak through Groucho's house or the character Groucho is playing's house and a mirror breaks and then he's in the mirror dressed as him trying to imitate all of his actions as he walks by.

01:48:42.000 Very good.

01:48:42.000 Yes.

01:48:43.000 That would be me and Ben.

01:48:43.000 I am familiar.

01:48:45.000 Yeah, Seamus will be coming down.

01:48:47.000 Yes.

01:48:47.000 That's right.

01:48:50.000 Jacob says, you've talked about how strong your Magic the Gathering commander decks are.

01:48:54.000 What commanders do you run?

01:48:56.000 I've got Kikijiki.

01:48:57.000 It's insane, by the way.

01:48:59.000 And I think that may be one of the most powerful, because... The deck is.

01:49:02.000 I mean, it was crazy.

01:49:02.000 We were playing recently, and I was mana screwed.

01:49:06.000 And then Ian was, like, doing really well.

01:49:08.000 And then I got... What's that troll who generates mana for health?

01:49:11.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:49:11.000 Yeah, you pay three life for one red.

01:49:13.000 It's insane.

01:49:14.000 And then I won, just like that. 1.00

01:49:15.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:49:15.000 I was like, I'm at three, but you're dead. 1.00

01:49:17.000 I play Urza, but it's not even fun anymore because I have to take like 39 moves in one turn, which I like, but it just ended up ruining the game with my own joy.

01:49:25.000 Overload.

01:49:26.000 What about you, Ornn?

01:49:27.000 Yeah, this is the problem with Commander.

01:49:28.000 It degenerates into, you know, it's supposed to be a fun format multiplayer and everybody just tries to end up winning on turn one.

01:49:34.000 So my Commander deck's pretty casual because I try to play with friends that keep it pretty casual.

01:49:39.000 I've got, I think Mariki Baru is the way to pronounce it, where she just steals all your permanents and then when she untaps she kills them so you can just tap her and untap her over again to take over the board. 1.00

01:49:50.000 oh that's fun Nathan Devon says huge fan just got kicked out of the air force active duty for refusing the jab yo that's crazy man like during a war in eastern europe too that sounds like a really bad idea well there we go Christina H says, thank you Ian, but that summary was a little off.

01:50:08.000 One second after is about a man trying to save his family and small town after the US's hit with an EMP attack inspired me to buy emergency food and prep before it was cool.

01:50:16.000 Oh wow.

01:50:17.000 Okay, thanks.

01:50:18.000 I just read what it was on the, I think it was on Amazon or something, what I read.

01:50:20.000 Yes.

01:50:21.000 Thank you for clarifying.

01:50:22.000 I recently, when they announced the food shortages, like we've already got emergency food, but considering how many people work here, like we don't really have enough, but I bought a bunch.

01:50:33.000 Because, uh, I think inflation's gonna hit and you're, like, if nothing ends up happening, the worst case scenario is you just eat food.

01:50:40.000 So I always recommend people take care of themselves.

01:50:42.000 Take care of themselves, my friends.

01:50:45.000 Michael Scott Matthews says, are you also anti-circumcision, Tim, if we oppose any permanent physical changes to a child's body when they can't consent informally?

01:50:53.000 Yes, I think that's wrong.

01:50:55.000 I think it's, uh, I think it's, I don't understand why we still have that, you know, whatever.

01:51:02.000 But I will give a shout out to, um, Who are those YouTube animators?

01:51:08.000 Flash Gitz!

01:51:09.000 With one of the funniest videos where it's the feminist and she like goes to an aquarium and demands a job and they're like, are you a biologist? 0.93

01:51:18.000 And she's like, she gets all angry at screaming about sexism.

01:51:22.000 And then in the end she's, she's like screaming about patriarchy and smashing up and rioting. 0.84

01:51:26.000 And then all of a sudden men's rights activists show up and they're like, Oh no, men's rights activists.

01:51:30.000 And then the guy goes, We want our foreskins back!

01:51:33.000 Oh my gosh.

01:51:34.000 This show is so funny.

01:51:35.000 That's fair.

01:51:35.000 Yeah.

01:51:36.000 But I don't think we should be surgically altering children.

01:51:39.000 Yeah.

01:51:40.000 They cannot consent.

01:51:41.000 I've heard that it can really mess kids' minds up, that amount of pain at that early age.

01:51:46.000 Well, there's some nuance here.

01:51:47.000 A lot of people obviously pointed out cleft lip surgery, reconstructive surgery for burns and stuff.

01:51:52.000 I get that.

01:51:53.000 Someone mentioned that kids will have ears that stick out and they'll get them pinned.

01:51:57.000 I disagree with that too.

01:51:58.000 Yeah, that's weird, right?

01:51:59.000 I don't like it.

01:52:00.000 If you got big ears, you got big ears.

01:52:01.000 It's okay.

01:52:02.000 I don't know, man.

01:52:03.000 Just like, kids want to make fun of you for having big ears, but like, I guess?

01:52:05.000 I don't know.

01:52:06.000 Like, kids gotta be taught to be confident in themselves and to be ashamed of themselves. 0.94

01:52:10.000 Telling a kid, your ears are ugly, we better get you to a doctor to surgically alter that, instead of saying, tell those kids to shut up. 1.00

01:52:15.000 Who cares? 0.99

01:52:16.000 You're better.

01:52:16.000 Yeah.

01:52:18.000 That's an opportunity to teach them.

01:52:19.000 I was gonna say, too, that I learned a while ago that they used to not administer pain medicine when they did circumcisions.

01:52:26.000 And I was like, excuse me.

01:52:28.000 Well, there was a belief that children couldn't feel pain, or infants at that age couldn't feel pain, so they did all sorts of medical procedures without anesthetizing them first.

01:52:28.000 They do?

01:52:35.000 That's like lifelong trauma.

01:52:36.000 It's gotta be.

01:52:36.000 That's horrible.

01:52:39.000 James says, Tim, fitness is a specific evolutionary term that refers to how many offspring an organism has that survives to reproduce.

01:52:46.000 It never had anything to do with the smartest or strongest.

01:52:49.000 I stand corrected.

01:52:49.000 Ah, well, touche.

01:52:51.000 Good point.

01:52:53.000 Young says, Tim, if Bill Maher is lazy, what of David French?

01:52:56.000 He's sleeping.

01:52:59.000 Scott says, let he who hath no rifle sell his Xbox and buy one.

01:53:03.000 Jesus probably.

01:53:05.000 Probably, yeah.

01:53:06.000 But he did say, if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one, yeah.

01:53:10.000 That is fascinating to me.

01:53:12.000 Because it's funny when people make fun of the right for buying guns, and they're like, Jesus would, you know, tell them, and blah blah blah, and it's like, oh.

01:53:18.000 Peaceful warrior.

01:53:19.000 You just have to get a sword, man.

01:53:21.000 But I think it's important, if you can't defend yourself, your friends, and your family from evil, then what do you do?

01:53:25.000 Lay down and just get steamrolled?

01:53:27.000 Yeah, that's the idea.

01:53:27.000 Yeah.

01:53:29.000 Something doesn't sound right.

01:53:30.000 Something about that story doesn't sound right that he just let him take.

01:53:34.000 It just doesn't sound right, man.

01:53:35.000 man, something's fishy.

01:53:37.000 All right, CKCC Chris says, well, we should be concerned

01:53:40.000 and learn our lessons from Nuremberg, but that concern should not stand in the way

01:53:44.000 of getting to the truth and holding those who have perverted our public accountable to the laws

01:53:48.000 we know to be right.

01:53:50.000 Right.

01:53:51.000 I think someone brought up Nuremberg.

01:53:52.000 I think you did.

01:53:53.000 What was it about the Nuremberg trial?

01:53:55.000 I was thinking about Jesus, pardon me.

01:53:56.000 No, it was when we were talking about McCarthyism and you said, I don't want to, you know, have a tit for tat.

01:54:01.000 Start doing investigations or whatever.

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:03.000 Important thing to remember about McCarthy, you know, the government and the entertainment industry actually was full of communists.

01:54:10.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:54:10.000 An important thing to remember.

01:54:12.000 Catwell says, are y'all planning any meetups while in Nashville for your fans and Timcast members?

01:54:17.000 Our family are huge Freedom Tunes fans and I'd love the chance to chat with Ian about graphene and abolishing the Fed.

01:54:22.000 So I don't know if we have any direct plans right now.

01:54:26.000 In the future we are planning perhaps monthly excursions where we send the mobile studio out to various cities and we will do what we want to do is Friday night IRL live.

01:54:38.000 So we do the show on a stage in a big theater somewhere in a city.

01:54:43.000 And also thank you so much for the shout out.

01:54:43.000 Love it.

01:54:45.000 And also check out this shirt that somebody sent me.

01:54:47.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

01:54:48.000 I love it.

01:54:48.000 What does it say?

01:54:49.000 Ask me about graphene.

01:54:51.000 No, don't.

01:54:51.000 It's a trap.

01:54:52.000 It's a large though.

01:54:52.000 If you're going to send me shirts, send me mediums.

01:54:54.000 But how cool would it be if we came to your city and then on a Friday night at a, you know, a thousand seater venue or whatever, everybody came in and we were, we were doing the show live on a stage and you know, uh, like Alex Jones would be there.

01:55:07.000 It feels like the way it's supposed to be.

01:55:09.000 Like we should do it.

01:55:10.000 Yeah.

01:55:11.000 And then it would make a live studio audience, like how they do all the other late night talk shows.

01:55:14.000 And we can do real questions, man.

01:55:15.000 Cause you pay to get in and then that's basically your super chat.

01:55:15.000 That's cool.

01:55:18.000 Hopefully you'll be one of the people that can talk.

01:55:20.000 I think people would be able to yell.

01:55:21.000 I don't know if we would be able to do audience questions though.

01:55:24.000 Yeah.

01:55:25.000 Instead of super chat.

01:55:26.000 Or we could do super chats.

01:55:27.000 Super chats allow us to screen from trolls is the issue, right?

01:55:31.000 Just a bunch of people getting up, we're gonna start yelling stuff.

01:55:33.000 And I don't know how to be able to handle that.

01:55:35.000 But to be fair, I feel like we would handle that kind of adversity really well.

01:55:38.000 And with Matt Walsh, it's always interesting when people try to troll him and it never works.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, but there's a difference between being live and having people go up and scream a bunch of racial slurs as opposed to someone asking you a question that's hard.

01:55:51.000 Yeah.

01:55:52.000 So one of the things that they do with Matt's events is they make sure that the people who get in are like really good faith actors.

01:55:57.000 I know.

01:55:57.000 It's tough.

01:55:57.000 It's hard.

01:55:58.000 It's tough.

01:55:59.000 You know, I don't know.

01:56:01.000 We don't want we don't.

01:56:02.000 People troll and people protest.

01:56:04.000 Maybe for the Azure show, we could do audience questions and then.

01:56:07.000 Yeah.

01:56:07.000 Oh, good point.

01:56:08.000 We would definitely be able to do that.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:09.000 Yeah.

01:56:11.000 So yes.

01:56:12.000 All right.

01:56:12.000 Brendan says, you've convinced me to watch Star Trek.

01:56:15.000 What is the best series to start with?

01:56:16.000 From what you've said, Next Generation seems pretty legit.

01:56:19.000 Well, look, that's my that's my demographic.

01:56:21.000 That's my age range.

01:56:23.000 When I was a little kid, you know, I'm three or four.

01:56:25.000 This show is on the air and I'm sitting on the couch and my dad's watching it.

01:56:28.000 So I grow up watching this show over several years.

01:56:31.000 For a lot of people, the original series is You know, it was the original for me, and the second one was cheesy.

01:56:37.000 Next Gen was cheesy at first, but I think it was season two.

01:56:40.000 This comes up a lot.

01:56:40.000 Riker's beard.

01:56:41.000 It is by far the superior Star Trek of those two.

01:56:45.000 I didn't even watch the other ones.

01:56:46.000 I couldn't get into them.

01:56:48.000 Next Generation is amazing.

01:56:50.000 That's why you still see Brent Steiner and, you know, what's his name?

01:56:53.000 Jordy.

01:56:54.000 Jordy doing commercials and stuff.

01:56:56.000 Jordy, I call him.

01:56:57.000 LeVar, dude.

01:56:57.000 LeVar Burton.

01:56:58.000 Come on, man.

01:56:59.000 He taught you to read, and this is all you can do for him?

01:57:01.000 Reading Rainbow, shout out.

01:57:02.000 Come on.

01:57:03.000 LeVar.

01:57:04.000 And you said Steiner.

01:57:05.000 Oh, is it not Brett Steiner?

01:57:06.000 Spiner.

01:57:06.000 What's his last name?

01:57:07.000 Sorry, Brett.

01:57:07.000 Spiner.

01:57:08.000 You were great in Independence Day.

01:57:09.000 Boo.

01:57:10.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:57:11.000 And then they brought him back in the sequel and they made him gay. 0.94

01:57:14.000 You see that one? 0.80

01:57:14.000 What? 0.80

01:57:14.000 Did they make him gay in that? 0.80

01:57:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:16.000 That slipped past me.

01:57:17.000 Yeah, him and the other scientist end up getting married or something.

01:57:20.000 He was amazing in the first one.

01:57:23.000 It's weird to me that they added that to the story that didn't need to be there.

01:57:26.000 I understand that they make a movie and there's a protagonist.

01:57:30.000 The protagonist is gay and his love is a motivation.

01:57:33.000 I don't understand when they just take a random ancillary character and then add a gay relationship as a plot point.

01:57:38.000 That doesn't change the plot at all.

01:57:40.000 It normalizes their whole goal.

01:57:40.000 Oh, I understand.

01:57:43.000 But also, that film, I forgot that that happened, and I think that's because the film was just so forgettable overall that I couldn't take anything away from it.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, that was not good.

01:57:51.000 The funny thing is, they recast... What's her face? 0.51

01:57:55.000 What's the actress's name? 0.84

01:57:56.000 She was on Arrested Development.

01:58:00.000 She was in Scott Pilgrim.

01:58:02.000 She's the voice of Katara.

01:58:03.000 You guys know who I'm talking about, right?

01:58:04.000 The young girl or the sister? 0.56

01:58:05.000 The older woman.

01:58:07.000 In what we mean?

01:58:08.000 In Arrested Development.

01:58:09.000 She was... I'll look it up.

01:58:11.000 Secretary?

01:58:12.000 No, someone's gonna chat it.

01:58:13.000 We're gonna get it.

01:58:14.000 She's the voice of Katara on Avatar The Last Airbender.

01:58:18.000 I'm waiting for someone to give me the answer, but there's like a minute lag or whatever.

01:58:21.000 Did you find out what her name is?

01:58:22.000 Mae Whitman?

01:58:23.000 Mae Whitman! 1.00

01:58:24.000 Right.

01:58:24.000 She was originally the little girl in Independence Day, and they recast her because they were like, we want, you know, an attractive woman, and they considered her frumpy, I guess, or whatever.

01:58:32.000 That's how Hollywood works, man.

01:58:34.000 That's how Hollywood works.

01:58:35.000 I know.

01:58:35.000 It's a good time.

01:58:38.000 Great show.

01:58:39.000 Critical success.

01:58:40.000 A lot of ones as well.

01:58:41.000 A lot of people didn't really agree on a lot of things.

01:58:43.000 Play hard.

01:58:44.000 Hollyanna Forever says, finally saw Freedom Tunes and the Crazy Chicken Show.

01:58:48.000 Epic.

01:58:49.000 Yo, we're consistently getting around like 200 concurrent viewers on Chicken City Live.

01:58:55.000 When we run these commercials on Tucker, it's gonna be epic.

01:58:58.000 So, we have a functional commercial, but it's a good commercial, and that's the problem.

01:59:03.000 It, like, accurately advertises Chicken City.

01:59:06.000 And it says, go to the website, and it shows the chickens, and it shows them running around, and I'm like, no, no, no. 1.00

01:59:10.000 The commercial needs to be stupid. 0.99

01:59:11.000 It needs to be, like, us arguing with the chickens, like, dramatic scenes, the roosters, like, chasing after us, fake explosions. 1.00

01:59:21.000 Take me back! 0.99

01:59:22.000 Like on my knees begging for forgiveness.

01:59:24.000 Oh yeah, we need like five seconds of Ian explaining graphene to the chickens as they all sit around you like confused.

01:59:30.000 I'll give you an hour.

01:59:31.000 You can just cut the five seconds out you need.

01:59:34.000 Chickens, listen.

01:59:36.000 By the way, I want to thank you for finally watching Freedom Tunes.

01:59:38.000 They finally watched it and you can too.

01:59:40.000 Go over to youtube.com slash freedom tunes right now.

01:59:43.000 Subscribe.

01:59:43.000 Hit the notification bell.

01:59:44.000 We got some more cartoons coming.

01:59:45.000 I think you guys are gonna love them.

01:59:48.000 Son of man says Ian is the smartest guy because he thinks outside the conventional box.

01:59:52.000 Y'all need to leave him alone.

01:59:54.000 Intelligence is weirdly defined.

01:59:55.000 I'm just, I'm a piece of a puzzle.

01:59:57.000 So in the wrong puzzle, I don't fit.

01:59:59.000 I just happened to kind of fit in this one.

02:00:01.000 Also, Ian doesn't want to be left alone.

02:00:02.000 He wants to discuss these things.

02:00:03.000 He wants to argue.

02:00:04.000 He wants to have his view challenged.

02:00:05.000 You know me.

02:00:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:00:06.000 Ian's the wild card, man.

02:00:08.000 Let me have it.

02:00:09.000 He often says things that make us all question our preconceived conceptions.

02:00:15.000 Our preconceptions.

02:00:16.000 Preconceived notions.

02:00:20.000 Question yourself, but don't question yourself too much.

02:00:22.000 I made that mistake and it can drive you insane.

02:00:25.000 So you have to find a reality that you enjoy and then find a community that agrees with it and then work together.

02:00:30.000 Stay grounded.

02:00:32.000 All right, we can only... we'll just grab a couple more here, because we actually have to get in the car.

02:00:35.000 We're driving out to Nashville literally right now.

02:00:38.000 So let's just grab a couple here.

02:00:40.000 All right.

02:00:42.000 Tommy Boy says, how do you feel about Jen Psaki potentially going to MSNBC? 0.91

02:00:46.000 To me, it seems like it's going to be a complete and absolute dumpster fire.

02:00:49.000 Does she even have any journalism experience?

02:00:51.000 I don't care.

02:00:53.000 I expect it.

02:00:54.000 I mean, Sean Spicer, he went to Newsmax, right?

02:00:56.000 Yeah, he did.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, whatever.

02:00:57.000 Yeah, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. 0.69

02:00:59.000 Yeah, Jen's, yeah.

02:01:00.000 Where did she go?

02:01:00.000 She went to Fox.

02:01:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:02.000 Jen's thinking going to MSNBC.

02:01:03.000 I'm just like, that's exactly what MSNBC is.

02:01:06.000 It's partisan.

02:01:06.000 They love it.

02:01:07.000 Yeah, we know that.

02:01:07.000 Sean Spicer went to Newsmax.

02:01:08.000 It's partisan.

02:01:09.000 They love it.

02:01:10.000 It's, you know, the press secretaries aren't, this is, they're pundits.

02:01:14.000 It's what they do.

02:01:15.000 They spin.

02:01:15.000 They spin on behalf of the White House.

02:01:17.000 Yeah, no, they can do it on Newsmax.

02:01:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:01:19.000 They'll do the same thing.

02:01:20.000 I don't watch that stuff.

02:01:21.000 I think Sean Spicer is better in a lot of ways than Jen Psaki. 1.00

02:01:24.000 But I think in terms of skill, Jen Psaki's pretty good at her job. 1.00

02:01:27.000 She can spin, man.

02:01:29.000 That's her job. 0.97

02:01:30.000 Yeah.

02:01:31.000 And she does it. 0.87

02:01:32.000 And everyone rolls their eyes.

02:01:33.000 But when they make fun of her for being Circleback Jen, I'm like, you realize that works for the establishment press, right? 0.54

02:01:38.000 She ignores questions and they never question it.

02:01:42.000 She's got them wrapped up.

02:01:44.000 She knows how to manipulate. 0.99

02:01:45.000 But I will be fair.

02:01:46.000 It's easy when the press is already in the bag for you.

02:01:50.000 She can stand there and do nothing, and then she grumbles because she calls on Peter Ducey as, like, the token conservative guy.

02:01:56.000 Yeah, and he roasts her. 0.99

02:01:57.000 Yep. 0.79

02:01:58.000 Great.

02:01:58.000 All right, here's... we got a couple more.

02:02:01.000 TheBased... what is it?

02:02:02.000 TheBasedBadass?

02:02:03.000 I'm running for Texas State Senate in San Antonio.

02:02:05.000 I just wanted to thank everyone for the encouragement and inspiration to run.

02:02:08.000 Hey, right on, man.

02:02:09.000 But we don't have your name, so... but good luck.

02:02:11.000 Yeah, good luck.

02:02:12.000 And last, we'll degrade this one.

02:02:14.000 Chris Adkin says, I am Volsephoron, follower of TheBeanie and woofer sure of Chicken City.

02:02:19.000 Congratulations, good sir.

02:02:20.000 All right, everybody.

02:02:21.000 If you haven't already, you must smash the like button.

02:02:25.000 Do it for Ian.

02:02:26.000 If Ian doesn't get 10,000 likes.

02:02:28.000 He'll cry.

02:02:29.000 But if I do.

02:02:30.000 Seamus will get mad.

02:02:31.000 He'll cry.

02:02:31.000 And then Seamus is punching holes in walls.

02:02:33.000 And then Ian is crying.

02:02:34.000 And then I gotta deal with it.

02:02:36.000 And then, oh man.

02:02:37.000 I can literally, I can hear it from the other room.

02:02:40.000 I'm not able to fall asleep because Ian's bawling his eyes out.

02:02:42.000 I'm stretching.

02:02:43.000 And he starts crying even harder.

02:02:47.000 If you listen really, really carefully in Freedom Tunes, you can actually hear Ian crying in the background half the time.

02:02:51.000 I'm telling you, I'm doing sit-ups.

02:02:52.000 It's crunches.

02:02:54.000 I'm doing crunches.

02:02:54.000 Come on.

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02:03:33.000 Oren, do you want to shout, shout anything out?

02:03:35.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:03:36.000 Make sure to check out my YouTube channel, Oren McIntyre, on Twitter.

02:03:41.000 I think on Twitter I've got the link tree or the Find My Friends where you can find all my stuff.

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02:03:51.000 So go ahead and follow me there.

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02:03:59.000 Go check that out.

02:04:00.000 You know?

02:04:00.000 Subscribe.

02:04:00.000 Hit the notification bell or Ian will cry again.

02:04:03.000 Hit the like button.

02:04:05.000 Find the white pill that's in you, man.

02:04:07.000 You got it.

02:04:07.000 That's right.

02:04:08.000 You got it there.

02:04:09.000 He's already fighting back tears.

02:04:11.000 We're a thousand likes away.

02:04:13.000 It's natural.

02:04:13.000 We got this.

02:04:14.000 We got this.

02:04:14.000 And we're going to be driving to Nashville.

02:04:16.000 He's going to be crying the whole time.

02:04:17.000 I'm going to be checking the video and watching the comments all night, you guys.

02:04:20.000 So keep making them.

02:04:21.000 I'm going to get a call from Seamus and I'm going to answer it and I'm just going to hear, I know punching the walls is only gonna make him cry harder, but I'm so angry at that point that self-destruction is perfectly acceptable to me.

02:04:33.000 I got pads for the walls.

02:04:34.000 Sound pads.

02:04:36.000 We are all in padded rooms over here.

02:04:38.000 Anyway, you guys should check out Pop Culture Crisis because I'm on there every Wednesday except this Wednesday.

02:04:42.000 So if you like what I have to say, Go check it out.

02:04:45.000 Brett is an awesome host and he does a great job researching for the show.

02:04:49.000 You guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

02:04:52.000 I'm also on minds.com and I also have sourpatchlids.me.

02:04:56.000 So follow me in all those spots.

02:04:57.000 We will see all of you over at TimCast.com or Chicken City and we'll be in Nashville all next week.

02:05:03.000 We're actually going to be there first thing in the morning because we're driving all throughout the night and then I guess not sleeping.

02:05:08.000 I guess.

02:05:09.000 And then I have to work through the weekend because that's the point of being down there to do work.

02:05:13.000 So that'll be fun.

02:05:14.000 But maybe we'll see you around in Nashville.

02:05:17.000 Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all next time.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 08, 2022

Timcast IRL - Jury FAILS To Convict Whitmer Defendants, Narrative CRUMBLES w-Auron MacIntyre

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