Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - "Total EXONERATION" Massie Impeachment Of Pete Hegseth FAILS, Trump Celebrates

00:01:40.000 Thomas Massey's impeachment effort of Pete Hegseth has failed.

00:01:45.000 And interestingly, it failed because there were 11 Democrats that didn't vote.

00:01:49.000 And so Jake Tapper apparently is all pissed off because they could have impeached Hegseth, which would have done nothing.

00:01:54.000 Help everybody understands.

00:01:57.000 I'm going to tell you guys.

00:01:59.000 I'm talking to Kellen and I'm like, are we really leading with this?

00:02:01.000 Because it's not real.

00:02:02.000 It's not real.

00:02:03.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:02:05.000 This is the truth in the news, right?

00:02:07.000 We could sit here and say the Democrats with Massey are trying to impeach and remove Hegseth.

00:02:12.000 No, they're not.

00:02:13.000 They know it's not real.

00:02:14.000 They know it's not going to go anywhere.

00:02:16.000 They know that even if they impeached him, he would never be convicted and removed.

00:02:19.000 And that's why 11 Democrats didn't bother to vote at all because this is just TV for you guys.

00:02:25.000 And I'm just not even convinced any of it is real, to be completely honest.

00:02:28.000 But that's the truth in D.C. Hey, we got other news.

00:02:32.000 There's a migrant caravan currently heading to the United States.

00:02:35.000 When interviewed, they said, well, the Democrats just won, so it's going to be a lot easier now.

00:02:39.000 So we're getting ready.

00:02:40.000 That'll be fun.

00:02:41.000 And then I was actually, you know, talking, when I was talking to Calmich, maybe we should lead with.

00:02:46.000 Joe Biden was pelted with ice cream and other objects in Ireland by pro Palestinian protesters.

00:02:53.000 And it's just, you know, it's a big story.

00:02:56.000 Nobody should be doing that.

00:02:56.000 It is.

00:02:58.000 But Joe Biden hasn't been president for years.

00:03:00.000 So it's like, we're not going to lead with it, but we will talk about this.

00:03:05.000 And then, of course, we've got some updates the cancel culture stuff over the Charlie Kirk comments.

00:03:11.000 People are losing money.

00:03:11.000 That Jennifer Welch lady apparently has lost $8 million.

00:03:14.000 I'd estimate that she probably lost more.

00:03:16.000 And because I think it's around 30 sponsors, people have claimed to have jumped ship.

00:03:21.000 And now she's getting sponsorship offers from like a small business.

00:03:26.000 Yikes.

00:03:26.000 That's how bad it gets for you.

00:03:27.000 But she's rich.

00:03:28.000 She'll be rich forever.

00:03:29.000 I mean, that's the name of the game.

00:03:30.000 That's the state of things.

00:03:32.000 So we'll talk about all of that.

00:03:33.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Guy Nora.

00:03:38.000 Hi.

00:03:39.000 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:03:39.000 Who are you?

00:03:42.000 I really like this format.

00:03:44.000 I think we're going to have a great time.

00:03:46.000 Who are you?

00:03:47.000 What do you do?

00:03:48.000 My name, so I'm Guy Nora.

00:03:51.000 I was born in Beirut, Lebanon in 1960.

00:03:54.000 In 1975, there was a war in Lebanon between the Christians and the PLO, and I fought in the Christian militias.

00:04:03.000 I actually did training, so it's not, I just didn't pick up a gun and go fight.

00:04:07.000 I did training, and I told my parents I was going to Boy Scout camp, and then the war started when I was 15.

00:04:14.000 So April 8 was my birthday, April 13, the war started.

00:04:18.000 Four months of combat.

00:04:20.000 Then my parents whisked me out of there and brought me to Alameda, California.

00:04:25.000 And that was my first exposure to the United States.

00:04:29.000 People always ask me, So, what did you think when you first got here?

00:04:33.000 And my feeling was, When you're from where I came from back then, Americans are supposed to be 6'2 blonde surfers.

00:04:42.000 And my first person that actually stamped my visa at the airport was an Asian gentleman.

00:04:48.000 So, in my mind, it was like, This is a cool place.

00:04:52.000 Of course, it's beautiful.

00:04:53.000 Everything in the Bay Area is beautiful.

00:04:55.000 I landed in Seattle.

00:04:57.000 So I wanted to adapt.

00:04:58.000 As soon as I got in, I'm a Catholic, so I went to church.

00:05:02.000 And the first thing I'd noticed from going to church was how diverse it was.

00:05:07.000 This is 75, 76, right?

00:05:09.000 So Filipinos, in my area, Filipinos, Hispanic, Irish, German, Italian, and me.

00:05:16.000 So I was like, maybe, maybe.

00:05:18.000 Meanwhile, my aunt had hid my passport because I wanted to go back and keep fighting.

00:05:23.000 Wow.

00:05:23.000 Because I believed in the cause.

00:05:25.000 And the cause was basically to protect my family, my church, my people, etc.

00:05:30.000 Because the PLO was going to take over.

00:05:32.000 Which, by the way, are the grandparents of Hamas.

00:05:35.000 So the same exact tactics.

00:05:37.000 I can watch, you know, I get weird watching some of this stuff.

00:05:40.000 What have you been doing recently?

00:05:42.000 Recently, I was a venture capitalist for 35 years in life sciences, med tech, and biotech.

00:05:48.000 And the last, I ran for governor in 2022 in my state.

00:05:52.000 And I started getting more involved in public policy because to give back.

00:05:56.000 I have been incredibly fortunate with my life and everything that's happened to me here in the United States.

00:06:01.000 And I just wanted to give back.

00:06:02.000 And I thought I'd run for governor.

00:06:04.000 But since then, I also got very involved in the campaign in 24 in my state, which was the first time we won it since 2002.

00:06:12.000 Which campaign?

00:06:14.000 President Trump's campaign.

00:06:15.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:06:17.000 In Nevada in 2024.

00:06:19.000 And since then, I've written a book.

00:06:23.000 And the book, the important thing people should know about the book is that the book is a story of my war experiences, but I'm writing it because I am seeing the same patterns happening in our country right now.

00:06:35.000 Civil War.

00:06:36.000 Polarization.

00:06:36.000 Yes.

00:06:38.000 Polarization, hating each other, assassinations.

00:06:40.000 Yep.

00:06:41.000 Not inviting somebody to Thanksgiving.

00:06:43.000 Been there, done that.

00:06:45.000 Not on our watch, which is what's the name of the book.

00:06:47.000 I don't think there's anything you can do to stop it, to be honest.

00:06:50.000 There's no guarantee it does happen, but I don't think, should we be on that track, that there's anything anyone can do.

00:06:57.000 So a lot of people are pointing out Tony Hinchcliffe made this joke about George Floyd, Dave Chappelle made the same joke.

00:07:06.000 What a lot of people then missed is that, what's that SNL guy's name?

00:07:11.000 Oh, yeah, Pete, what's his name?

00:07:13.000 Yeah, he made the joke about Charlie Kirk.

00:07:16.000 To Tony Hinchcliffe.

00:07:17.000 Okay.

00:07:17.000 So I don't know if that was a tit for tat.

00:07:20.000 I don't know who started it, but there's a clip of that Pete dude from SNL who made a joke saying that something to the effect of Tony Hinchcliffe takes, you know, let a guy unload in his throat the way Charlie Kirk did or something to that effect.

00:07:34.000 And so some people are claiming that because he made that joke about Charlie Kirk, that Hinchcliffe then made a joke about George Floyd.

00:07:43.000 And then Dave Chappelle goes and makes the joke.

00:07:46.000 Okay.

00:07:46.000 But it's a tit for tat joke.

00:07:48.000 That I don't see how we stop.

00:07:49.000 But it'll be interesting to talk with you all about this.

00:07:51.000 Should be a lot of fun.

00:07:51.000 So thanks for coming.

00:07:52.000 Yes.

00:07:53.000 We got the Boys and Floyd.

00:07:55.000 I love that.

00:07:56.000 Boys and Floyd.

00:07:57.000 There we go.

00:07:59.000 I love the format.

00:08:00.000 I really do.

00:08:02.000 Hi.

00:08:02.000 Hello.

00:08:03.000 What's up, Eve?

00:08:04.000 Let's rock and roll, baby.

00:08:05.000 What up, dude?

00:08:06.000 Hey, Carter.

00:08:07.000 What's up?

00:08:08.000 What's up, Rebecca?

00:08:09.000 Oh, excited to be here.

00:08:09.000 What's up, Phil?

00:08:10.000 All right.

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00:09:52.000 Let's jump into the news.

00:09:54.000 Pete Hegseth has survived the fake impeachment effort.

00:09:58.000 And it's fake.

00:09:59.000 And I'm going to prove to you that it was fake.

00:10:01.000 I just, I didn't even want to lead with this, to be honest, but this is the big news.

00:10:04.000 And I think everybody, look, I'm going to say this again.

00:10:07.000 I do not want to be sitting here talking to you about fake politics.

00:10:11.000 I'd rather talk about James Gunn getting fired and how he screwed up Supergirl.

00:10:15.000 And that's way more interesting to me than members of Congress pretending to do anything.

00:10:21.000 And with all due respect to Thomas Massey, because I consider him a friend and I am a fan.

00:10:25.000 And I know a lot of people don't like him and they think he's a grandstander.

00:10:28.000 You are absolutely allowed to not like him.

00:10:30.000 I am friends with Libs, I'm friends with conservatives.

00:10:32.000 And Massey's always been good to us, he's always been nice to me.

00:10:35.000 And that's all I require is that he's respectful.

00:10:38.000 I'll be respectful back.

00:10:40.000 But I'm going to say this just outright.

00:10:42.000 This is fake.

00:10:43.000 He knows it.

00:10:44.000 Every one of these members of Congress knows it outright.

00:10:47.000 Take a look at this.

00:10:48.000 Republicans, so this is the motion to refer to committee, meaning he wants to impeach Exeth.

00:10:54.000 They say, how about we refer the impeachment to committee, which effectively kills the bill.

00:10:58.000 210 Republicans said, yes, refer it to committee.

00:11:02.000 One Republican said, no, don't.

00:11:04.000 That's Massey.

00:11:06.000 203 Democrats said, no, don't refer it to committee.

00:11:10.000 One Independent said, yeah.

00:11:12.000 So it's 211 to 204.

00:11:14.000 18 did not vote, which means Democrats could have impeached Hegseth if they wanted to.

00:11:21.000 But this isn't going anywhere.

00:11:22.000 And even if they did impeach him, there's not going to be 67 votes in the Senate to impeach Hegseth.

00:11:27.000 This was fake and a waste of all of our time.

00:11:30.000 And that's what D.C. does with your money.

00:11:32.000 When you vote, when you send these people to Congress, they spit in your face and do fake things because they want your vote.

00:11:38.000 I'm sick of it.

00:11:39.000 I'm sick of Congress.

00:11:40.000 I'm sick of all these people.

00:11:41.000 I look forward to the next member of Congress coming on my show.

00:11:45.000 Look, this is, you're exactly right about the.

00:11:48.000 Grandstanding and the fakeness of it.

00:11:51.000 The Democrats ran on keeping the administration accountable.

00:11:57.000 They spent hours on cable talking about how lawless the Trump administration was, how Trump's so bad, and how the Iran war and all of the attacks, I guess you'd call them, the missile strikes in the Gulf, and all of this.

00:12:12.000 They were saying, This is so bad.

00:12:14.000 Pete Hegg says it is a war crime, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:16.000 And then they have the opportunity to do something.

00:12:19.000 Nothing gets done.

00:12:20.000 It's like either Massey did nothing and we'd be like, Congress did nothing, or they can do something that turns into nothing.

00:12:28.000 And it's like an even more egregious version of nothing.

00:12:30.000 Massey did something, though.

00:12:31.000 Which turned into nothing, apparently.

00:12:33.000 But no, there's an interesting point.

00:12:34.000 He did something.

00:12:35.000 If Massey did nothing, people would be like, why won't you do anything?

00:12:38.000 Yeah, like, where's Congress?

00:12:39.000 This is it.

00:12:40.000 Oh, hey, there's Congress.

00:12:41.000 I'm sorry.

00:12:41.000 What Congress does.

00:12:42.000 Our government is dysfunctional nonsense.

00:12:44.000 Big time.

00:12:45.000 To me, is that does Massey want this as his legacy?

00:12:50.000 As the last vote, I think so, yes.

00:12:50.000 Yes.

00:12:53.000 Is he going to play out soon?

00:12:54.000 I don't think so.

00:12:55.000 He's going to be done.

00:12:56.000 Well, he's got the Epstein stuff, and they just did release it.

00:12:58.000 That would have been more interesting to me.

00:13:00.000 Well, he did.

00:13:02.000 They've got another Epstein thing he wants everyone to vote on.

00:13:04.000 I don't know whether they're out with that, but they did release some more Epstein files.

00:13:06.000 That would be a good legacy because people expect it.

00:13:08.000 They're not there either.

00:13:09.000 I mean, they're going to fake it, they're never going to give you the information.

00:13:12.000 Guys, this is not meant to be black pill y or anything, but we are chickens in a chicken coop.

00:13:19.000 Each and every one of you who watches this show, I know you're on the higher end of the bell curve of intelligence because Ian uses words like miasmic.

00:13:26.000 I love that word.

00:13:27.000 So, when you look at how they voted for this, and every single person knew, but more importantly is this Jake Tapper, the 11 House Democrats who didn't vote in the effort to kill the Hegseth impeachment, Democrats, why didn't they vote?

00:13:42.000 Why didn't these Democrats vote?

00:13:44.000 They just didn't vote.

00:13:45.000 Now, hold on.

00:13:46.000 They could have voted to kill the bill, they could have voted not to kill the bill.

00:13:50.000 If the Democrats really wanted Hegseth impeached, these Democrats could have joined in and they would have won because they only needed seven, but they didn't for some reason.

00:13:58.000 Why?

00:13:59.000 It's fake.

00:14:00.000 Because it's staged.

00:14:02.000 Because the leadership goes to them and says, We want to look like the Democrats are trying to get rid of Hegseth, but we don't actually want to impeach him.

00:14:11.000 We just want to look like we're doing things so we can get donations later.

00:14:14.000 And then what happens is one of the Democrats who voted for the impeachment goes back to their district and they say, I stood with Thomas Massey to impeach Pete Hegseth for his illegal war in Iran.

00:14:25.000 And we were defeated by the Republicans.

00:14:29.000 You think it was Pelosi's name on that list?

00:14:32.000 You think she was the one who was like, Let's get.

00:14:34.000 207 people to vote, and then we'll make sure there's like a lot of votes.

00:14:37.000 They probably just lobbied, Republicans lobbied, and Democrats lobbied, and they probably went home and said, Look, we need a certain amount of votes to abstain so that it's a guaranteed victory for Hegseth.

00:14:46.000 We want to make it look like we're doing stuff, but we don't want to actually do anything.

00:14:50.000 Like, come on, I'm going to tell you, I believe all of these Democrats, they want the war in Iran.

00:14:54.000 I do wonder if this vote had been done after the new Congress had started, if all of the people that were elected, I do wonder if they would have actually passed it because the majority.

00:15:07.000 You know, it would be significantly greater with the new Congress, and I wonder if they would have got the message.

00:15:12.000 And if so, why didn't Tom, well, Thomas Massey would have run.

00:15:15.000 He could have.

00:15:16.000 But why wouldn't Ro Khanna have, because he'll still be in, I'm pretty sure.

00:15:19.000 So why wouldn't he just submit the bill?

00:15:23.000 I think, honestly, Massey should run as a Democrat.

00:15:27.000 I don't think he should run.

00:15:28.000 And what tells us they won't do it again with the new makeup?

00:15:32.000 Because there's going to be a bunch of DSAs.

00:15:35.000 No, I think the new Congress is going to get weird.

00:15:38.000 Yes.

00:15:39.000 It's going to get weird.

00:15:40.000 Hurting is going to be a big deal.

00:15:41.000 They're not going to be able to play these games.

00:15:43.000 So, when you've got a thin majority, so we had on, I can't remember, was it like Andy Biggs?

00:15:48.000 I can't remember who we had on.

00:15:50.000 They were in Congress at the time, and they said that when the Republicans had the power to kill Obamacare, leadership went to them and said, do not vote to kill Obamacare.

00:15:58.000 We need to keep it as a wedge issue.

00:16:00.000 The Save America Act is a perfect example of this fake politics.

00:16:05.000 It passed in the House several times, like all versions of it passed in the House overwhelmingly.

00:16:10.000 All the House Republicans point their finger at the Senate and say, Why aren't you doing anything?

00:16:14.000 The reason they passed it so overwhelmingly is they know that it's going to die in the Senate.

00:16:17.000 If they knew that the bill was actually going to go anywhere, you would not have seen the same turnout from Republicans.

00:16:22.000 But those Republicans that have to campaign every two years are able to go back to their districts and say, See, I supported this really popular thing that the president supports.

00:16:30.000 And then the president is yelling at John Thune the whole time.

00:16:32.000 But it doesn't really matter because John Thune just got reelected as Senate minority leader today.

00:16:38.000 It's all fake.

00:16:39.000 It's like they really don't actually dislike him or really have any strong objections with.

00:16:44.000 The leader, if they just voted for him to be the leader again.

00:16:49.000 As I'm surrounded with the samurais, it's like a skabuki theater.

00:16:53.000 Yeah.

00:16:54.000 And they're just letting the private sector run the world, basically?

00:16:54.000 Yeah.

00:16:58.000 No, they're all in on it, bro.

00:16:59.000 It's one big happy family tree, son.

00:17:01.000 Definitely in on it.

00:17:02.000 It's not the private sector, it's the bureaucracy that's still running.

00:17:05.000 That's the concern.

00:17:06.000 No, I think they're all in on it.

00:17:08.000 Some of them.

00:17:08.000 Anyone that's getting donations.

00:17:09.000 It's a lucrative merger of corporation and state.

00:17:12.000 I mean, these corporations are working alongside these people.

00:17:15.000 Revolving door politics has always been the play.

00:17:17.000 One of the top issues for voters this midterm cycle, apart from obviously the economy, was corruption, perceived corruption.

00:17:23.000 So it tells you everything.

00:17:23.000 Yeah.

00:17:24.000 The state of our democracy, I believe.

00:17:25.000 It's the same way as, like, you can't make a copy of my book.

00:17:28.000 That's piracy.

00:17:29.000 Like, bro, the old 20th century democracy where there's 400 people trying to lead a nation of 300 and a half million is insane.

00:17:37.000 It's insane and it will fail.

00:17:39.000 We need to fix it and change it.

00:17:40.000 That's right.

00:17:41.000 Well, I don't know how you fix it.

00:17:42.000 I don't know if you can't change it, but I can tell you this.

00:17:44.000 When you have a nation with 250 million voters, or I think if we look at, like, what, like 150 million total presidential votes, last 155 or something like that, maybe 160.

00:17:55.000 You are the idea that you're going to go to a person and argue for a policy and that's going to win you an election is laughable.

00:18:02.000 You've got 160 million people to convince.

00:18:05.000 You know, it's like you go to one group and you say, like, we got to lower taxes, and the other half goes boo, and then one half is like, yeah, and you're like, oh, what is that?

00:18:13.000 I got to figure out which margin gets me slightly over 50%.

00:18:16.000 They like free money, they like sloppy, like blood, everybody likes it.

00:18:24.000 Everybody likes free money, whether it be people that.

00:18:26.000 Don't have money or people that have a lot of money.

00:18:28.000 That's what they ask themselves.

00:18:30.000 Rather than trying to convince with policy, it's like, how can I, what's going to get everyone's attention?

00:18:33.000 Because this is a pop free money.

00:18:34.000 We just said that.

00:18:36.000 That's one of the things they use.

00:18:37.000 And there's other things they do to entice people, you know, making funny videos and crap.

00:18:42.000 Maybe I'll run for office and free money is my campaign.

00:18:42.000 Maybe I'll do that.

00:18:46.000 I've been thinking about it.

00:18:47.000 I literally do nothing other than just pilfer the public coffers and write checks to you.

00:18:52.000 Money, money, money.

00:18:53.000 Who do you trust?

00:18:54.000 Money, money, money.

00:18:55.000 Just like Jack Nicholson.

00:18:57.000 Trophies for everyone.

00:18:58.000 My only thing is whatever we're going to do.

00:19:01.000 Let's not kill each other getting there.

00:19:02.000 That's the whole title.

00:19:02.000 That's all.

00:19:03.000 Well, I mean, I'd like it if it was the case that the American people were not going to do things like this.

00:19:09.000 But the problem is, you know, particularly right now, you cannot stop the, you know, what is that thing called where you get the, how am I forgetting the name?

00:19:20.000 It's the balls and they hit each other and they go back and forth.

00:19:22.000 Pendulum.

00:19:23.000 Oh, no, that's not a pendulum.

00:19:24.000 Polarization?

00:19:25.000 No, you have like five balls lined up and you take one and drop it.

00:19:28.000 Oh, the, I don't even know what those are called.

00:19:30.000 Metronome.

00:19:32.000 The swinginging.

00:19:32.000 No.

00:19:33.000 Metronomic pendulum.

00:19:34.000 You just look it up.

00:19:35.000 I don't even, I mean, how would you look that up?

00:19:37.000 Balls that hit each other.

00:19:38.000 Is this a Newton's cradle?

00:19:39.000 Multi-No.

00:19:39.000 Is this a Newton's cradle?

00:19:40.000 Yes, yes.

00:19:41.000 Newton's cradle.

00:19:42.000 Did Newton invent it?

00:19:43.000 I bet Newton invented it.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, it's called a Newton's cradle.

00:19:46.000 The energy exists in the system.

00:19:49.000 And I think a Newton's cradle is the perfect example of.

00:19:52.000 It is it, dude.

00:19:52.000 I'm going to pull this up.

00:19:54.000 You hit it in one area, and then in another area of the system, it changes.

00:19:57.000 That's how real life functions.

00:19:59.000 So I think everybody knows what a Newton's cradle is.

00:20:01.000 I'm going to pull this up so I can just explain what's going on in this country.

00:20:04.000 How fun.

00:20:05.000 This is me singing a song, and there's everyone else.

00:20:07.000 Screaming 7,000 miles away because vibrational.

00:20:11.000 It's perfect.

00:20:12.000 I can hear you with this.

00:20:13.000 This is the perfect analogy right now.

00:20:18.000 I love it.

00:20:19.000 Let's go back to the beginning.

00:20:20.000 So you've got energy in the right.

00:20:23.000 When the energy slams into the center, you can see the left moves a little to the left, but not very far, but the energy still exists and it creates a massive swing leftward, which then comes, moves the right a little to the right, and you get a massive rightward swing.

00:20:36.000 The energy in the system exists.

00:20:39.000 It's not going to go away.

00:20:41.000 So, when Tony Hinchcliffe makes a George Floyd joke, Dave Chappelle escalates and makes it about Charlie Kirk.

00:20:49.000 And now, what happens is the people who didn't really think much about the George Floyd joke are now.

00:20:55.000 So, the anger is exponential, it's logarithmic.

00:21:01.000 So, Tony Hinchcliffe goes on a Comedy Central show, not the biggest show, but a big show, Roast of Kevin Hart.

00:21:06.000 And he makes a comment about George Floyd looking up, and people go, whoa, like, whoa, taboo joke.

00:21:11.000 And some people hear it.

00:21:13.000 Dave Chappelle then goes to a sold out show at Madison Square Garden and makes a global trending story.

00:21:18.000 So let's just assign points to scale.

00:21:21.000 Tony Hinchcliffe appearing on this show and making the joke is a four out of 10.

00:21:24.000 It's big.

00:21:25.000 A lot of people didn't even know he did the joke.

00:21:27.000 Dave Chappelle is an eight.

00:21:29.000 He just had a global three day long news trend for that joke.

00:21:34.000 What's going to happen now is people on the right, he's reflecting the hate that he felt back to substantially more people, generating more and more hate.

00:21:44.000 I don't know how you actually stop that.

00:21:46.000 I don't think it's possible.

00:21:47.000 You need love.

00:21:48.000 You can't sit by and do nothing.

00:21:49.000 Because that was my first take I'm just not going to participate.

00:21:52.000 But then it just, as Escalates, it just the track continues.

00:21:55.000 But if you counter it with an equal and opposite force, you can slow down the momentum.

00:22:01.000 It just hurts to do it.

00:22:02.000 You get cast off as an idiot a lot of times, and people get confused.

00:22:05.000 You need, honestly, you know what stops the Newton's cradle is sticking your hand right in the middle of the, and then it just stops.

00:22:12.000 Something's got to absorb the energy.

00:22:14.000 And my thesis that's the people in the middle of the bell curve center left, center right.

00:22:20.000 That's who's got to do that.

00:22:22.000 Well, no, the energy moves through them.

00:22:24.000 So, this is why we saw the swing in the midterm elections.

00:22:27.000 They're not the hand.

00:22:27.000 Their hand.

00:22:29.000 They're the people who vote left and right.

00:22:31.000 They're the ones who empower whichever side at the time.

00:22:33.000 You need to give them the tools to use the energy when it strikes them, which is AI, I think.

00:22:38.000 They might listen to this argument and say, you know what?

00:22:41.000 Tim's right.

00:22:42.000 We need to stop it, and it should be us.

00:22:45.000 To me, that's what's really important.

00:22:46.000 And by the way, the other thing which gives me a little bit of hope, and I hate going in that direction, but I could tell you that if we were in Lebanon in 1975 and the Charlie Kirk thing happened, It would have happened on the other side within weeks.

00:23:01.000 Meaning, Gavin Newsom, somebody like that.

00:23:01.000 Yes.

00:23:05.000 And that's my concern in the Chappelle thing is that does Dave not realize he went on stage and screamed to the world to attack him?

00:23:12.000 I want to ask about that.

00:23:13.000 I didn't see the rest of the clip.

00:23:14.000 Did you see after what happened after?

00:23:16.000 Was there like context?

00:23:17.000 Did he turn around and be like, and I didn't even mean any of it?

00:23:20.000 No, it was, I think somebody filmed it.

00:23:22.000 Someone must have brought a second phone in because he was filming like a special or something, you know, where they lost their phones.

00:23:28.000 I don't think it was a special.

00:23:29.000 That's just all comedy shows.

00:23:30.000 They just take your phone.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, because the material is used for specials after the fact.

00:23:36.000 So they do tours and it refines the material, and then once they're done with it, they put it on the E.

00:23:41.000 He notoriously says extremely offensive things.

00:23:43.000 He said that ever since Charlie Kirk died, he's felt better.

00:23:46.000 There's no joke there.

00:23:47.000 He then went on to say, I'm sure Charlie Kirk is looking up at us, laughing so hard he can't breathe, which is, of course, the joke Kinscliffe made about George Floyd.

00:23:56.000 He also, apparently, according to other people who were there, said he was an unrepentant racist.

00:24:00.000 And he said something like, You know, Charlie Kirk said that when he gets on a plane and he sees a black pilot, he gets scared.

00:24:07.000 And then Chappelle said, Me, I'm impressed.

00:24:09.000 I'm like, That must be one exceptional pilot.

00:24:12.000 Right?

00:24:13.000 But so, the thing is, not even that funny.

00:24:15.000 The thing is, like you're saying, he's not making jokes.

00:24:18.000 If this was Lebanon, you would have seen a reaction to Charlie Kirk, a violent reaction within weeks.

00:24:23.000 You think?

00:24:24.000 And we didn't.

00:24:25.000 There was like an absorption of shock in the US.

00:24:27.000 Like people internalized it.

00:24:28.000 They decided forgiveness and they didn't.

00:24:31.000 We were like, a lot of people were talking about forgiveness and like not lashing out and giving them what they wanted.

00:24:35.000 I didn't.

00:24:35.000 I didn't see a lot of people.

00:24:36.000 You may, that may have been your experience, but I didn't see a lot of people talking about forgiveness.

00:24:41.000 There was a lot of, there weren't people talking about retribution, but I didn't see a lot of people saying that we need to forgive and stuff.

00:24:49.000 They were, they were looking for, there's a lot of people calling for justice, as in like, you know, the government finding the killer and prosecuting and stuff.

00:24:56.000 But I didn't see a lot of people saying we need to forgive.

00:24:59.000 His own wife, Erica, on stage at the, she said it.

00:25:02.000 And like very well in Lebanon 75, the guy's wife could have been like, we're going to get, you know, like, could have come out and been like, Try to take over the heat.

00:25:11.000 That's what gives me hope.

00:25:13.000 I mean, I was as sad as anybody else because I was involved with them and I knew him.

00:25:18.000 But I waited and I was very happy that nothing happened.

00:25:25.000 Because it's tit for tat and it's an escalation, is what happens.

00:25:31.000 Tit for tat, escalation, and then dehumanization.

00:25:34.000 That's the other thing.

00:25:36.000 So there are all these steps that happen, dehumanizing.

00:25:39.000 Then you start thinking, well, if the other person is not that human, then I can do more bad things to them.

00:25:45.000 I'm a little bit more cynical, though, because yes, there was this moment, everybody kind of paused afterwards.

00:25:53.000 But I think a lot of people, especially on the right, kind of hoped that this would be some sort of rallying cry and that we would have kind of not a newfound purpose, but like we would finally be united.

00:26:04.000 Because I remember in the months leading up to it, there was a lot of fractures emerging in the GOP.

00:26:10.000 Those fractures have since just deepened.

00:26:12.000 I can't really point to anything particularly productive that has happened since his assassination.

00:26:19.000 And really, it's become normalized that a lot of young people my age will make fun of him in this very like glib, you know, really distasteful way.

00:26:26.000 It's kind of been.

00:26:27.000 Baked into the culture now for my generation, at least, where it's pretty casual to make very crass jokes about his assassination.

00:26:35.000 So, yeah, it's not, you know, it wasn't necessarily reciprocated in as extreme of a way, but there's, I can't say that, you know, we are better off ever since then.

00:26:45.000 Like, it doesn't seem like, you know, people actually stopped and thought of a solution going forward.

00:26:52.000 Well, I mean, what you just said, they're doubling down on it even, which is even worse, right?

00:26:58.000 Because they're making, they're making glib jokes about it.

00:27:01.000 Yeah.

00:27:01.000 The biggest thing is, I spent a lot of time thinking about that middle again.

00:27:05.000 Because I think if we're going to get saved from killing each other, the people in the middle are going to step it up.

00:27:12.000 People in the middle, you see, again, I'm a conservative, so to me, he was a great voice.

00:27:19.000 And he was trying to reach out.

00:27:21.000 And of course, there were some times when some lines would be crossed or they looked like they were crossed, like the pilot story.

00:27:27.000 But the people in the middle, if you ask the average American who doesn't pay attention, because we're wonks, but they're not, they'll say, oh, yeah, that provoked.

00:27:36.000 Provocateur guy, the guy who was.

00:27:39.000 See.

00:27:39.000 The racist?

00:27:40.000 Yeah, the guy who was pushing all these buttons.

00:27:42.000 And we're like, really?

00:27:43.000 That's Charlie?

00:27:44.000 And it's like, we know.

00:27:45.000 Mice.

00:27:46.000 And that's what regular people think who don't know Charlie.

00:27:48.000 Yes.

00:27:49.000 And that's why, in a way, that's why they got away with it because a big swath of people in the middle were like, well, this guy, you know, he was pulling the wrong buttons.

00:28:02.000 That's the fundamental disagreement I have with the concept that the middle's going to save America.

00:28:08.000 The middle's been completely and totally indoctrinated by the left.

00:28:13.000 The sensibilities that the left have, the things that the left has deemed as socially acceptable, a vast swath of the middle have just internalized as yes, they're right.

00:28:26.000 There are a few things that are too far left for the average person.

00:28:31.000 The thing that comes to mind most obviously is when it comes to trans stuff, right?

00:28:35.000 Yeah.

00:28:35.000 Transgender people.

00:28:36.000 And boys and girls, by the way.

00:28:37.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 To the middle, that is a step too far.

00:28:41.000 But For the most part, the middle kind of just has just, like I said, internalized the moral foundations that the left has.

00:28:52.000 And that's part of the reason why someone like Charlie Kirk, who was saying things that are very mundane for a religious person in the United States, something saying things that in the 90s were completely and totally inoffensive, but he's he was now considered a provocateur.

00:29:11.000 So I don't think that the middle that you're talking about, what?

00:29:14.000 I said, oh, yeah.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, you know, I don't think that the middle that you're talking about is going to be able to stand up and say, oh, you know, we need to come together.

00:29:21.000 I think that the middle has been basically co opted by the left.

00:29:25.000 And that's part of why we have the problems that we have, because you have people on the right and people that I would consider normal, like Charlie Kirk.

00:29:32.000 And I'm not a particularly religious person, but Charlie Kirk, nothing that he said to me, I didn't find anything that he said particularly offensive, right?

00:29:40.000 It was just like, all right, well, he sounds like a guy that's a Christian.

00:29:43.000 There are so many people out there that would ostensibly be thought of as like the middle.

00:29:49.000 That will say things like, well, you know, we have to worry about Christian nationalism in the United States.

00:29:54.000 That to me is a ridiculous statement, right?

00:29:56.000 Like, Christians are still the majority, the largest majority of religious people in the United States, but people that consider themselves secular or moderately religious believe that there is some kind of extreme faction of Christians that like go to Latin Mass and,

00:30:16.000 you know, receive the Eucharist or, or like, you know, celebrate Easter in a, in a, in a, In an unironic way, those people are considered extremists to a large portion of the population.

00:30:27.000 I think that's why the middle isn't going to stand up and say.

00:30:29.000 The phrase Christian nationalist means traditional American.

00:30:33.000 So when the left comes out, like it was Haley Williams of Paramores on stage, and she's like, Christian nationalism is the biggest threat or whatever.

00:30:40.000 Yeah, and like the 1960s, everybody was a Christian nationalist.

00:30:43.000 Like everybody was Christian.

00:30:45.000 They went to church on Sundays and they were all pro America nationalists.

00:30:48.000 Yeah.

00:30:49.000 It was during the Cold War.

00:30:50.000 So now what's happened is this new emergent faction is basically.

00:30:54.000 They've created a phrase to identify what the traditional American believed and to call it bad.

00:31:01.000 So it's this.

00:31:02.000 I was going to say it's the people with that perception that you were describing who will accuse anybody of being a Christian nationalist, like it's some sort of slur, that will not bat an eye when college kids dress up as Charlie Kirk for Halloween and mock his assassination.

00:31:02.000 Go ahead.

00:31:18.000 And when I was in college, he actually came to my campus, and his event was in an enclosed venue on our campus at UC Davis.

00:31:26.000 But when I went to go report on it as a student journalist, as like working at the paper, there was obviously a huge mob outside and they were breaking the windows.

00:31:34.000 They were saying all these threatening things.

00:31:36.000 And, you know, it was pretty intimidating, but it didn't occur to me in the moment that, you know, it would have years later accelerated into what was his assassination.

00:31:46.000 But those are the same students, the same students that are outside threatening him and his supporters are the same students who are today dressing up as him when he was assassinated.

00:31:56.000 Like nothing has changed.

00:31:57.000 And it's extremely cynical.

00:31:58.000 It's unfortunate, but I think that's the reality.

00:32:01.000 Let me pull this story up.

00:32:02.000 We got this in the Washington Post.

00:32:04.000 Trump calls for the Justice Department to investigate Democrats.

00:32:07.000 He said they're extortionists.

00:32:09.000 It's a criminal act.

00:32:10.000 He's referring to, of course, Democrats threatening to go after Trump's donors, his allies, private citizens, corporate executives, media personalities.

00:32:18.000 So he told the DOJ, go after them in kind.

00:32:20.000 Of course, the Democrats then say Trump threatens to, you know, Trump calls for DOJ to investigate Democrats.

00:32:26.000 Washington Post doesn't provide the full context until later on.

00:32:29.000 And this is what you're going to get.

00:32:31.000 Tit for tat, I don't care who you think is right because it doesn't matter to me.

00:32:34.000 I don't care who you think set the fire, the house is on fire.

00:32:37.000 So if you want to stand there and say, yes, but look, look how the left is framing this to Jimba Pate, I'm going to say, you're right.

00:32:45.000 There's a fire in front of you.

00:32:46.000 Are we going to sit here and argue over who started the fire?

00:32:48.000 Are we going to try to put it out?

00:32:49.000 Or are we going to get out of the building?

00:32:50.000 Because what I see right now is the Republicans do not have the wherewithal to stop what the left is doing because it requires tactics that go beyond social norms.

00:33:04.000 Abraham Lincoln esque.

00:33:06.000 The right doesn't have what it takes.

00:33:07.000 So the left is going to keep escalating and manipulating and burning things down and setting fires.

00:33:12.000 The right's going to do nothing.

00:33:13.000 The side, they've been trying to, the sides have been trying to win subversively by using technology to control people through media.

00:33:23.000 They were, yeah.

00:33:23.000 With the Biden administration, well, maybe not as much.

00:33:26.000 I don't know.

00:33:27.000 And also, the left has been, the Democrats have been in power most of the last 20 years, except for, of course, this Trump, but he was hardly in power for half of it.

00:33:34.000 I don't know why the right isn't doing these things.

00:33:36.000 And like Bush, I mean, George Bush Jr. was avidly, like, that was a bad time for American communication.

00:33:43.000 I didn't get censored off YouTube, but a friend of mine did.

00:33:46.000 Bush Jr.?

00:33:47.000 Yeah, Bush Jr. during the war in Iraq, it was like, if you're not with us, you're against us.

00:33:51.000 If you don't want to kill the, you know, fight the Middle East, then you're also part of it.

00:33:55.000 You think there was a lot of censorship in that era?

00:33:57.000 There was.

00:33:58.000 Like the Patriot Act and like a lot of behind the scenes stuff.

00:34:01.000 First of all, I mean, Bill Maher is a great example.

00:34:03.000 Politically Incorrect was canceled.

00:34:04.000 Was it?

00:34:05.000 Politically Incorrect was canceled.

00:34:06.000 And that's how he started Real Time with Bill Maher.

00:34:06.000 Really?

00:34:08.000 He said maybe they were onto something.

00:34:10.000 No, he said they were not.

00:34:11.000 He said they were brave.

00:34:14.000 He said they're not good people, but it takes a lot of conviction and bravery to kill yourself for what you believe in.

00:34:21.000 And they were like, you can't say that, you're off the air.

00:34:22.000 The censorship is.

00:34:23.000 I'm going to double check that.

00:34:24.000 You could argue that it's a better way to beat the opponent than to destroy them with physical violence because it quells them, it pacifies them.

00:34:31.000 Pacification, they call it.

00:34:32.000 You know, it's a word they use, conquering.

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:35.000 So, but it's insidious as we know.

00:34:37.000 He said they're not cowards because they died for their cause.

00:34:41.000 And for that, that was it.

00:34:43.000 Who's not a coward?

00:34:45.000 And it was a week after 9 11.

00:34:47.000 That was so.

00:34:47.000 I was watching.

00:34:48.000 So there were a ton of personalities in this era because I was protesting a lot.

00:34:53.000 And I had a bunch of friends who were activists, and they were like, if you're a regular personality on these shows and you come out against the war, they stop calling you.

00:35:02.000 Now, it wasn't the era of the internet, so people didn't have powerful blogs or anything for the most part.

00:35:06.000 Yeah, right.

00:35:07.000 And then the internet came along and it completely upended Bush's power structure.

00:35:11.000 And then they got a hold of it again in about 2008 because everyone kind of backed off.

00:35:15.000 Obama came in with a smile and then Prism.

00:35:18.000 I'm doing it.

00:35:19.000 Yeah, and then it enhanced it.

00:35:21.000 So what's happening now is a new tech is emerging like the internet video of 2006.

00:35:25.000 Which is AI.

00:35:26.000 AI is going to break up the censorship mold for a short period of time, maybe like six months to eight months.

00:35:31.000 No, it's amplifying it.

00:35:32.000 What's that?

00:35:33.000 It's amplifying it.

00:35:33.000 It will.

00:35:34.000 They'll use it to amplify.

00:35:35.000 Oh, not quite.

00:35:36.000 You're wrong.

00:35:37.000 The whole open source movement, like tech, is being ripped apart and opened up in a way that's anti censorship to totality.

00:35:44.000 No, that's not anti censorship.

00:35:45.000 That's pro censorship.

00:35:46.000 Trying to make your code private is censoring that code, it's keeping it away from people.

00:35:49.000 When they tried to directly target people to have their voices removed, it didn't work.

00:35:53.000 So now what they're doing is they're flooding the room.

00:35:59.000 Interesting.

00:35:59.000 Yes.

00:36:00.000 So you've got a bunch of people standing in a field, and one guy's yelling, the election's rigged, and they go, you've got to get this guy out of here.

00:36:06.000 The cops come in and grab the guy and kick him out, and everyone watches it happen, and they film it, and it blows up, and they're like, what's happening?

00:36:11.000 They're censoring us.

00:36:12.000 And they go, okay, okay.

00:36:14.000 What can we do?

00:36:14.000 That didn't work.

00:36:15.000 Here's an idea there's a guy in the field screaming.

00:36:18.000 Let's get 50 guys to stand around him and scream similar things, but it's all confusing.

00:36:22.000 Yeah, dude.

00:36:22.000 That's what they're doing.

00:36:23.000 Yeah, that's how you beat AI.

00:36:24.000 You flood the zone.

00:36:26.000 That's what AI is doing.

00:36:27.000 I know.

00:36:27.000 That's how you beat AI as well.

00:36:29.000 You flood its zone, and then it gets confused.

00:36:30.000 No, Overload the system.

00:36:32.000 The issue right now is that social media platforms go on X right now.

00:36:36.000 And this is Elon's intent, as far as I can tell, because he could stop this.

00:36:41.000 And I'm just like, it's just AI slop.

00:36:44.000 X has become largely AI slop.

00:36:46.000 And I'll tell you what really irks me about X is that periodically.

00:36:52.000 So let me say it like this.

00:36:52.000 Actually, let me pull up X. I'll just pull it up.

00:36:57.000 So when I go to my page, you've got following and for you, right?

00:36:57.000 Okay.

00:37:01.000 The following actually has an algorithmic option already hidden.

00:37:05.000 Why?

00:37:06.000 Periodically, I'll notice I'm getting content I don't want.

00:37:11.000 And I'm getting content from hours ago.

00:37:12.000 And then I go, they did it again.

00:37:14.000 They switch you to the algorithm.

00:37:16.000 The For You tab is pure algorithmic.

00:37:18.000 It's people you don't follow, and it's largely slop content.

00:37:22.000 So they do these posts where they're like, the things that people have done as it pertains to illegal immigration are shocking.

00:37:29.000 One example of these stories: stop.

00:37:32.000 And then they, because then you have to click it to give them engagement to make money.

00:37:37.000 I will open up my X, and every so often, especially the app now, it always defaults algorithmic.

00:37:44.000 They're intentionally trying to jam slop in your face so that shows like this are not prominent and that people aren't organized around a cultural ideology.

00:37:54.000 That is true.

00:37:54.000 But the individual has a level of power that's similar to 2006 with internet video, like Alex Jones became popular then.

00:38:02.000 So we're able to kind of break out of this censorship mold right now.

00:38:05.000 If we do nothing, they will use the tech to then re secure their foothold.

00:38:10.000 But in the meantime, there's like an opportunity to change the world government in a way that the individual wants to.

00:38:15.000 How?

00:38:16.000 I mean, you can send out bot swarms to change systems rapidly.

00:38:16.000 With AI.

00:38:20.000 They have technology 10 years advanced from what you have access to.

00:38:23.000 It's true, but trying to have a defensive dome that's 10 years advanced doesn't stop every missile from everywhere.

00:38:29.000 Even if they're 20 year old missiles.

00:38:31.000 And I'm just using a metaphor.

00:38:32.000 I don't have a single missile.

00:38:33.000 Oh, I've got an AI.

00:38:34.000 I've got Claude.

00:38:35.000 Claude is an online weapons system.

00:38:37.000 Yes, but they did not release it to the public until they had.

00:38:39.000 It's a neutered Claude.

00:38:40.000 I agree.

00:38:41.000 It feels neutered, but it's true.

00:38:42.000 You do not have a nuclear weapon to buy a thing.

00:38:44.000 I built my website in six hours by sitting there last night.

00:38:47.000 And it's like.

00:38:48.000 Phenomenal.

00:38:49.000 And it has nothing to do with what's happening right now.

00:38:49.000 That's fantastic.

00:38:51.000 You're trying to change the world through changing people's minds.

00:38:53.000 You have the tech to do it.

00:38:56.000 But if you don't, someone else will use it.

00:38:59.000 Do you not understand what I just said?

00:39:02.000 You said that they are using it to flood the zone.

00:39:04.000 Right now, the zone is flooded completely, period.

00:39:06.000 Not completely.

00:39:07.000 It is.

00:39:08.000 No one would be watching this if it was completely flooded.

00:39:11.000 So there's still hope.

00:39:13.000 The avalanche does not happen in a blink of an eye.

00:39:17.000 It's not like a computer programmer just.

00:39:19.000 Erase the zero and put one.

00:39:20.000 There is a period by which you go from point A to point B, and we are watching it happen.

00:39:24.000 And I have talked about it for the past several months.

00:39:28.000 YouTube is flooded right now with fake, repetitive, slop videos, and they're getting harder to distinguish.

00:39:36.000 It's different than we are watching it happen.

00:39:38.000 We are the happening.

00:39:40.000 We are, it is, this is it.

00:39:42.000 This is, we are the people that is changing.

00:39:44.000 We're the ones that are using the tech that have this explosive opportunity.

00:39:44.000 This is it.

00:39:48.000 We are the avalanche.

00:39:50.000 You're not even engaging with the subject matter at hand.

00:39:52.000 Topic.

00:39:53.000 You're just, Ian is just trying to say AI is great over and over again.

00:39:56.000 No, no, I'm saying no matter what we're talking about.

00:39:58.000 When I'm talking about governments, I'm saying that if you know what people down, you need to use censorship and you have the opportunity as an individual to build your censorship.

00:40:04.000 And then you start talking about your website.

00:40:06.000 Well, you can build censorship.

00:40:07.000 It has nothing to do with what we're watching happen in the world.

00:40:09.000 I'm just saying, look, left is going to fight right, right's going to fight back, unless something comes in and changes that, which I said could be censorship, is a way to quell the opponent.

00:40:15.000 Censorship is getting worse.

00:40:17.000 But you can use it for good.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:19.000 Censorship.

00:40:20.000 Sure, but it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

00:40:21.000 I'm trying to offer solutions.

00:40:22.000 Tim, if you want to just talk about that, it is, then go, go.

00:40:25.000 I don't know if what you're saying is a solution.

00:40:26.000 It's a way to manipulate the masses that could help them.

00:40:29.000 You're talking about an overall broad thing, right?

00:40:32.000 Like, so it sounds like what you're saying is like the people have the power and AI is giving people the power and et cetera.

00:40:39.000 But that's not a solution.

00:40:41.000 That's not an actual course of action.

00:40:44.000 That's just saying, look, something could happen.

00:40:47.000 Someone could do something.

00:40:49.000 But people need more than just like, honestly, the, the, The thing that it kind of reminds me the most of is hope and change.

00:40:56.000 What would happen if there's nothing there?

00:40:58.000 Well, I mean, I got a question for you.

00:41:00.000 If you want to get specific, what would happen if we gave every single chimpanzee a full auto?

00:41:05.000 You know, people would get shot.

00:41:08.000 People.

00:41:09.000 Lots of people.

00:41:09.000 Chimpanzees would get shot.

00:41:10.000 Chimpanzees would get shot.

00:41:11.000 Would get shot.

00:41:12.000 They'd all kill them.

00:41:13.000 What if we gave every.

00:41:14.000 Because there's no cultural development that they can adapt to.

00:41:19.000 You cannot go to a bunch of chimps and hand them a bunch of guns because they'll just immediately start firing them like that.

00:41:25.000 What if you gave.

00:41:25.000 Now, in America, we have lots of guns, but that's fine because we developed these and culturally evolved with these.

00:41:32.000 So what's happening now with AI is hyper advanced capabilities being dropped in the hands of people who have not culturally adapted to what this means for society.

00:41:40.000 Yeah, you got to teach them to drive.

00:41:41.000 Because I'm thinking about driving.

00:41:42.000 Like, you give every monkey a 2,000 pound bullet that they fly through the roads with at 60 miles an hour, and somehow they don't kill each other.

00:41:49.000 You got to teach them how to drive this AI thing.

00:41:51.000 The machine, like, Elon says, what, in a year, you'll have no savings, you'll have no money?

00:41:57.000 Is that what he said?

00:41:58.000 Was like a year from now?

00:41:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 Well, I think it was a little bit longer than a year, but he was saying that basically there will be no need for money.

00:42:05.000 I think you're saying, like, within a couple of years.

00:42:07.000 The reason why he stopped production on the Model S is because the Cyber Cab is the Model S, and they need production capacity.

00:42:07.000 Yeah.

00:42:13.000 They're stopping production on Cybertruck.

00:42:15.000 You will never convince me that Elon Musk allocated billions of dollars towards mass producing automatic cars and humanoid robots and the Democrats oppose it.

00:42:27.000 I just don't believe it.

00:42:29.000 You don't believe that Elon Musk allocated billions of dollars and Democrats oppose it?

00:42:33.000 Yes.

00:42:37.000 There is no logic that I see where Elon is like, I'm going to fundamentally alter what it means to be a human being.

00:42:46.000 Sam Altman says the same thing.

00:42:48.000 You've got Anthropic, you've got Gemini, Meta.

00:42:51.000 There's no rail.

00:42:52.000 All of these companies are like, in two years, being human will be fundamentally different.

00:42:57.000 And the Democrats are just like, for no reason, we're against you, even though we're paid by you.

00:43:01.000 Yeah, they just want to.

00:43:03.000 No, it's all fake.

00:43:04.000 Well, yeah, it's because the Democrats want to control it.

00:43:08.000 I just think it's fake.

00:43:08.000 It's also.

00:43:09.000 I just think they know it's happening.

00:43:11.000 And I think they're all in on it.

00:43:12.000 It's one big happy family tree, and they know it's coming.

00:43:15.000 And it's not accidental that YouTube allows Slop to wipe out the platform.

00:43:21.000 It's existential fear on everybody's side because two years from now, I mean, so the Democrats are making noise, but the reality is that we're all existentially going, so really money won't matter?

00:43:34.000 And what will?

00:43:36.000 My conspiracy theory, I'm not saying it's true, it's just a conspiracy theory, that Democrats and Republicans are like, we need to manage outrage to prevent the burning of everything down so that when this transformation happens and it's about to happen, there's a degree of stability.

00:43:53.000 So that means you have to have a pressure release valve.

00:43:55.000 There has to be an outlet for the anger that never exceeds the ability to withstand the pressure.

00:44:05.000 So, if the country is capable of handing 100 PSI, they want to crank the knob up to 99 to release the pressure.

00:44:11.000 So, when the change happens, the pressure eventually goes back down, and then you have a transformed society, and you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

00:44:17.000 It's kind of what Massey did with this impeachment of Hegsef, or this attempted, he gave a lot of people some, like, yeah, finally, Hegsef got what was coming to him.

00:44:24.000 Like a little bit of a pressure.

00:44:25.000 Yes, exactly.

00:44:27.000 The thing with the pressure is that it's a slippery slope.

00:44:30.000 You never know how much and what the reaction is going to be.

00:44:35.000 So let's say the Democrats, because we talked about it earlier.

00:44:38.000 So the left, you know, Antifa's doing their thing and they're doing all the riots and so on.

00:44:42.000 At some point, if you don't stop it, there will be a counter on the other side.

00:44:50.000 Start hitting the streets.

00:44:50.000 I think.

00:44:52.000 Surface level, I agree largely.

00:44:53.000 But I would also just say that so long as.

00:44:58.000 The NSA and every major tech company knows everything about you, and they literally know when you go to the bathroom, they can control what you do.

00:45:06.000 My God, I just.

00:45:07.000 That's why a really good example is that we didn't see any Iran war protests.

00:45:12.000 That's weird, right?

00:45:14.000 But then people voted against the Iran war.

00:45:17.000 Where were the protests?

00:45:18.000 I guess that was the protest.

00:45:19.000 The machine did not want them.

00:45:21.000 That's it.

00:45:22.000 I saw a lot of no king protests.

00:45:22.000 A lot.

00:45:24.000 Yeah.

00:45:25.000 I mean, with signs that were anti Iran war.

00:45:29.000 Sure.

00:45:30.000 But you'd think with this midterm election, you would have had public sentiment in the street.

00:45:35.000 But the issue is the people who run the organizations who pay for these things did not pay for it, they didn't want them.

00:45:41.000 Yeah.

00:45:42.000 The vast majority of protesting in the United States and probably abroad is funded.

00:45:47.000 I mean, there were protesters outside the ICE facility in Maine this morning, and they've been there.

00:45:52.000 They're there all the time.

00:45:54.000 And one of them said that he was out there 12 hours a day, every day.

00:45:59.000 How do you do that?

00:46:00.000 He was standing there with a rifle as well.

00:46:01.000 It was a leftist protest.

00:46:02.000 We actually live in the UBI world.

00:46:06.000 We have lived in the Universal Basic Income America for a long time.

00:46:10.000 And.

00:46:11.000 People might say that's ridiculous.

00:46:12.000 I have to work.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, but most people do jobs, not, I shouldn't say most, but many do jobs that are immaterial, that do not matter to the function of the economy.

00:46:21.000 They exist for the sake of making it appear that jobs exist.

00:46:23.000 Anthropic just said the newest model is going to dislodge 42% of white collar jobs.

00:46:29.000 Yep.

00:46:30.000 I've been saying this.

00:46:31.000 It went from 6% last year to 42%.

00:46:34.000 So look, okay, if you, talking about protests and how to do it, if you had a well and everyone in town, you were the only one, and everyone's like, we need that well, he's taking the well, he's doing things, they're all outside yelling.

00:46:44.000 What if your version of protest was to build a better well and then give it to the people?

00:46:48.000 Like, I've taken my protest online and I speak, and it's not like I might acknowledge that I don't like something, but I'll show you the way to defeat it.

00:46:55.000 I'm not just going to scream by how bad it is over and over again.

00:46:59.000 Yeah, I mean, to do what I.

00:47:01.000 So, so, so, so, Tim, you're saying that UBI, that the extreme left has figured it out?

00:47:06.000 No, what I'm saying is that the fact that the podcast industry and media make as much money as they do, the fact that Jennifer Welch.

00:47:17.000 Could lose $8 million, and all she does all day is complain about Donald Trump.

00:47:24.000 It tells you what your society is.

00:47:26.000 And if you were to go 200 years in the past and say there are people in the future who will sit in chairs complaining about the president for hours all day, and they will be the wealthiest people in the country, they'd be like, That's ridiculous.

00:47:39.000 That's communism.

00:47:40.000 Well, they didn't have the communism or socialism.

00:47:42.000 They'd say, What?

00:47:43.000 You're getting paid for nothing.

00:47:45.000 I mean, even take a look at the perception with the song Money for Nothing and the Chicks for Free.

00:47:50.000 The idea that people could play music and be ultra wealthy, you know?

00:47:55.000 The reality is we have industrialized to a point where most of what we do does not matter to our existence anymore.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 I mean, there's plenty of girls my age who can afford to live in New York City with these like fake corporate jobs where they do their TikTok videos, day in my life, getting my matcha latte, going to work.

00:48:16.000 And it's like their job doesn't look real.

00:48:19.000 Like, because it's It's kind of fun.

00:48:21.000 Exactly.

00:48:22.000 And they can somehow afford to live in the most expensive city in the country.

00:48:25.000 And it's totally fake.

00:48:27.000 And I would love to have that job out there.

00:48:28.000 Dog therapists.

00:48:29.000 It gets soul sucking after a while doing a job that is meaningless.

00:48:33.000 In my opinion, I worked about 10 years in corporate just sitting there pushing buttons and doing data entry for somebody that a robot could do.

00:48:41.000 Like I said, dog therapist is a real job now.

00:48:44.000 Life coach.

00:48:45.000 Life coach.

00:48:45.000 You know, these are real jobs.

00:48:48.000 And when I say real jobs, I mean they are things that people do and get paid for.

00:48:53.000 Exactly.

00:48:54.000 I got to update my LinkedIn now that I think about it.

00:48:56.000 I'm going to add a bunch of stuff.

00:48:58.000 I've always thought that these jobs, the reason why they exist is because the rest of us have real jobs.

00:49:06.000 I mean, when that ends, then what happens?

00:49:08.000 What are you going to life course somebody who has no purpose?

00:49:12.000 I mean, to an extent, you're right, you know, because, you know, other people have real jobs that are doing stuff.

00:49:19.000 But at the end of the day, like, there's a, like, look at all of the administrators in the healthcare industry.

00:49:26.000 Everything.

00:49:26.000 Like, all of that can be.

00:49:28.000 Can be automated away now, right?

00:49:30.000 All of the administration.

00:49:31.000 That would be better.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, I probably want to say that's one of the advantages.

00:49:35.000 The cost of healthcare would drop because of that.

00:49:38.000 If you had doctors using AI to, you know, agents to take care of all of the administration.

00:49:44.000 Same thing with education, with lawyers, right?

00:49:50.000 But at some point, you're like, all right, well, we've gotten rid of all of these jobs, and now there are a bunch of people that have no work.

00:49:56.000 I'm going to pull this story.

00:49:57.000 This is from MLQAI, Anthropics Claude, Fable 5.2 completes 41%.

00:50:03.000 Of real freelance jobs on the remote labor index, double the next model, and up from 2.5% one year ago.

00:50:13.000 My friends, this is the most important story in the world right now, and nobody cares.

00:50:16.000 And I'm going to tell you this right now nobody cares.

00:50:19.000 And I'm going to say it again because I know you're sitting at home saying, I don't care.

00:50:23.000 When you talk to regular people, when we go over the analytics, when we discuss what is about to happen to this country, most people say, I don't care because they don't understand and it's not within their frame of view.

00:50:33.000 So, the average person is right now complaining about the Democrats or the Republicans because first order thinking, that's what I see.

00:50:40.000 And these are the people running the show.

00:50:42.000 I am warning you all right now you have to pay attention to this.

00:50:47.000 I hope the Tim Cast IRL audience is smart enough to at least take a look to figure these things out because too many people do not understand what is happening.

00:50:56.000 I am still hearing from people who say that, oh, no, but Claude and they're just large language models.

00:51:03.000 They have not been large language models for years.

00:51:06.000 These are true artificial intelligences, with some academics calling them already artificial general intelligence.

00:51:12.000 To understand what I am saying, to put it simply, your job is gone.

00:51:17.000 Fable 5.2 just eliminated 41% of freelance work.

00:51:22.000 I think it is.

00:51:23.000 This is coding, this is graphic design, this is administrative work.

00:51:28.000 It is eliminated as of right now.

00:51:30.000 What you are looking at with these companies like Adobe and Microsoft.

00:51:34.000 Is an after image.

00:51:35.000 It's when Wiley Coyote runs off a clip and freezes, and when he falls, there's still smoke floating there.

00:51:41.000 That's what you're looking at.

00:51:42.000 Adobe is a $100 billion company with no product.

00:51:47.000 And now, for all of you people who work in freelance, many people tell me, no, Tim, this is not really happening because I do freelance and I still have jobs.

00:51:55.000 I am telling you, the avalanche doesn't go instantly, it is from point A to point B.

00:52:01.000 And if you can watch, if you are aware that the hurricane, Is currently coming off the west coast of Africa, headed towards Florida a week in advance.

00:52:10.000 You can pack up your cooler, pack up your belongings, and get out before you die.

00:52:13.000 Where most people are standing at the shore saying, There's no hurricane, I don't see it.

00:52:18.000 41% Fable 5.2.

00:52:21.000 They're already connecting Fable 5.2 to Unreal Engine and in hours making first person shooters and video games mind blowing.

00:52:30.000 In six, seven months, it is going to be substantially worse.

00:52:34.000 And I'm telling you right now, as for this space, We have, I'll put it this way the amount of AI generated slop content is exponentially increasing, which means shows like this, I don't know that they can exist because we have production costs, we have rent, we have cameras, equipment, and employees.

00:52:53.000 But what's happening now is we don't need someone to go in and make a massive empire of high quality videos, the touch of a button, to destroy a show like Tim Cast IRL or for, say, Crowder's show to get nuked or even the I've Had It podcast.

00:53:10.000 You need only an avalanche.

00:53:13.000 That is, right now with Claude, with Fable 5.2 and even Opus, you can literally type in, make me a YouTube video, and it will do the voiceover for you.

00:53:23.000 It will do everything.

00:53:24.000 Everything.

00:53:25.000 It will analyze the top videos on YouTube and it will spit out a video that is guaranteed to make money.

00:53:31.000 And there are people now in mass, thousands, tens of thousands growing every day who are all bragging how they're making identical videos and they're getting a few thousand views, but they're making a few thousand dollars a month.

00:53:44.000 What happens?

00:53:45.000 A show like I've had it, who loses eight million dollars in their sponsors, well, they're going to start having their views chipped away because there's a finite amount of eyeballs that can watch content.

00:53:56.000 This is just in the media landscape.

00:53:58.000 It's also what I was describing with flooding the zone in terms of censorship.

00:54:01.000 If 10,000 people make the exact same video, this show might be cream of the crop, best of the best, but we cannot compete with 10,000 identical videos attacking the attention of every single person on the show.

00:54:17.000 It might be able to because it's going to become less about human eyeballs and more about AI training eyeballs on all the videos.

00:54:23.000 And the AI might be drawn to the human realism.

00:54:25.000 And if you get anthropic to put 10 trillion views on your video because no one is advertising to a bot.

00:54:31.000 View.

00:54:31.000 I think that's going to change because the AI needs training data, and that's what these videos can become more valuable as training.

00:54:37.000 You're saying Coca Cola wants to tell AI to buy Coca Cola?

00:54:41.000 No.

00:54:42.000 Right.

00:54:42.000 I'm saying.

00:54:43.000 So the ad dollars are gone.

00:54:44.000 No, no, no.

00:54:45.000 No.

00:54:45.000 I'm saying Anthropic might pay $60 billion a year to Google to be able to train off of their videos.

00:54:52.000 And then that money would go to the user.

00:54:53.000 Google already has their own AI, and they've all locked out all the other AIs.

00:54:57.000 So Gemini, Google, is not going to give access to any of their private data to any other company.

00:55:02.000 They might, if they got $60 billion, maybe they would consider it.

00:55:05.000 So, right now, I think what we're seeing is the zone is being flooded, which is largely censorious, but it doesn't matter if it's censorship or not because there's a finite amount of eyeballs.

00:55:05.000 It's not even about that.

00:55:14.000 And if a billion people are watching YouTube and there's a billion videos, ain't nobody's making money.

00:55:19.000 But then you've got to consider the bigger picture.

00:55:22.000 That's just saying for where we are and our expertise, what we can see 41% of freelance jobs erased overnight.

00:55:29.000 When your boomer boss and your Gen X boss retire, or maybe even before that, when the shareholders say, why are we spending so much money when AI is here?

00:55:38.000 Your job is gone.

00:55:39.000 The last thing I'm going to say, because I'm going to go with some water, I want to hear what you're about to say something, is that also these numbers aren't scaling linearly.

00:55:45.000 Oh, this is fresh?

00:55:46.000 Thanks, dude.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, I know.

00:55:47.000 It went from 2% to 41% in a year or so.

00:55:50.000 One year.

00:55:50.000 But it's not a straight line.

00:55:52.000 We're in the Jaker.

00:55:52.000 It's the Jaker.

00:55:53.000 It's a lucky stick.

00:55:54.000 Four months away, it could be 99.8.

00:55:56.000 Probably a month.

00:55:56.000 Not even.

00:55:58.000 But just because it's got jagged edges.

00:56:01.000 So, yes, everything Tim is saying is true, but the rate of adoption is going to matter.

00:56:09.000 That's not to say that all of the jobs that we're talking about, all the white collar jobs aren't on the line because they absolutely are.

00:56:16.000 But how soon it's going to happen is going to depend on how soon people actually adopt it.

00:56:23.000 Do you guys want water?

00:56:24.000 So right now, MLQ points out Fable is at 41.3, Opus, which is also Claude, 21.25, Astra is at 20.83.

00:56:24.000 Do you want any water?

00:56:34.000 Here's the crazy thing Opus 5.5, it's dirt cheap, it'll cost you nothing.

00:56:39.000 Open it up.

00:56:40.000 Type in, scan the top trending videos on YouTube and give me a PDF breaking down how to make the best video possible to get viewership.

00:56:50.000 It will then create a report.

00:56:52.000 Then, what you do is save this report as a production, as a skill for production.

00:56:57.000 It will then save everything in that document as a skill.

00:57:01.000 You want to refresh it from time to time.

00:57:03.000 You then say, slash skill, whatever the name is, write me a script for a video and plot it out.

00:57:09.000 It'll do it.

00:57:10.000 It'll even have all the hooks on the lines.

00:57:12.000 You'll then say, use a voiceover, a voice generator, and render the full video.

00:57:18.000 It'll take 40 minutes to render about a half an hour long video with music.

00:57:23.000 With voiceover, with animation, motion graphics, and everything.

00:57:26.000 And it will have taken you five minutes to do.

00:57:29.000 And then you can crank out 50 of these every hour if you're trying.

00:57:34.000 And that's what's happening right now.

00:57:36.000 The only thing that's going to protect the platform is if YouTube makes an active decision to ban this content.

00:57:42.000 Now, the people who produce this content are protesting, saying that's like saying banning techno because musicians were like, it's got to be played with real instruments.

00:57:51.000 They're arguing, I chose the content.

00:57:54.000 As to the tools' capability.

00:57:56.000 The question then is Kurtz Gesaget, very famous YouTube channel for a long time, voiceover with animations.

00:58:03.000 That whole thing can be completely automated right now, and it effectively is.

00:58:08.000 Not them, but people are copying it.

00:58:10.000 So someone's going to argue if a human being makes it, it's fine.

00:58:16.000 But if it's functionally identical in every way but made by an AI, it's not okay.

00:58:20.000 So YouTube's going to have a choice.

00:58:21.000 I got an idea for YouTube for a business model.

00:58:23.000 Free tier, everyone that's using YouTube for free, you can't upload it.

00:58:26.000 YouTube.

00:58:27.000 IA garbage.

00:58:28.000 You'll be demonetized, deleted, all that.

00:58:29.000 But if you pay, then you can upload like 10 AI videos a week.

00:58:33.000 You can't do that.

00:58:34.000 If you pay more, you could upload 100 AI videos a week.

00:58:36.000 What do you mean you can't?

00:58:37.000 You can't do that because you can't punish someone for using some AI and you can't set a scale as to when too much AI disqualifies you.

00:58:37.000 Of course you can.

00:58:46.000 That's what you have to do.

00:58:46.000 Tim, two things.

00:58:47.000 First of all, there is a lag, right?

00:58:50.000 We talk about the avalanche.

00:58:51.000 Another expression is Hemingway, they ask him, how did you go bankrupt?

00:58:54.000 It goes gradually, then suddenly.

00:58:56.000 Yeah.

00:58:57.000 So, There's a lag.

00:58:58.000 So there will be a lag, and we don't know how long.

00:59:01.000 But as the old guy here, everything you said someone is going to ask YouTube to do, most people 55 and over have no idea.

00:59:10.000 Which is why I said when your boomer or Gen X boss retires, or when the shareholder comes in, and it's worse than that.

00:59:18.000 The shareholders at the meeting and some bigger shareholders say to you, How old are you?

00:59:23.000 66.

00:59:24.000 66.

00:59:25.000 And they're going to say, Why hasn't your company adapted?

00:59:28.000 You're spending $100,000 a quarter on these graphic designers, and you could get it done for $200.

00:59:34.000 We are losing share value.

00:59:36.000 And you're going to go, okay, and you're going to go to your millennial senior and say, can we implement this?

00:59:41.000 And they'll be like, yeah, right now.

00:59:43.000 Click, okay, fire everyone.

00:59:46.000 We are months away from that happening.

00:59:47.000 In fact, it is already happening.

00:59:49.000 Yeah, when I go to a website and I can't use my AI to talk to their AI to get it done instantly, I get really annoyed.

00:59:55.000 Like, it takes way too long to look through websites.

00:59:57.000 Exactly.

00:59:58.000 So, there's no search anymore.

01:00:02.000 Google search is gone.

01:00:03.000 I just use Claude.

01:00:03.000 This is what's really, really crazy.

01:00:05.000 I do chat GPT.

01:00:06.000 It's just not worth it.

01:00:07.000 Google search is gone.

01:00:08.000 It's helpful.

01:00:08.000 Like, if I'm selecting my healthcare plans, I'll just feed it all of the options and I'll tell them what my specificities are, and it'll give me basically the answer because I don't know what I'm doing.

01:00:20.000 So, shout out to chat GPT.

01:00:22.000 So, social unrest is on the way because you can't have changes like this and not have social unrest.

01:00:29.000 So, it goes back to the book.

01:00:30.000 It's like we will have some kind of civil war.

01:00:34.000 Well, so, and there's an argument that you need to.

01:00:37.000 You need a revolution or a civil war because you need to fundamentally alter the structure of an economy rapidly.

01:00:43.000 And so you cannot because there's.

01:00:45.000 So, why is it?

01:00:47.000 Here's the first point.

01:00:48.000 Why is it that someone gets elected to Congress and nothing changes?

01:00:51.000 It's because there's a machine in place and we are grains of sand in the heap.

01:00:55.000 Not a single snowflake is going to alter the course of the avalanche.

01:01:00.000 But you can throw grenades into the side, trigger an avalanche, resetting everything.

01:01:05.000 And then from there, you can ski peacefully.

01:01:08.000 You know, the only thing I thought about fighting a revolution over recently is if people came in and they tried to destroy AI in the United States and let the Chinese take it.

01:01:16.000 I'm like, that I might.

01:01:17.000 Come to weapons.

01:01:19.000 I'm not because it's like saying if there's an avalanche and you're like, a bunch of people come out and they go, Look, there's no avalanches.

01:01:25.000 We're not allowed.

01:01:25.000 And they put up a no avalanche.

01:01:26.000 I'm like, Bro, we need to deal with this avalanche or we're all going to die.

01:01:29.000 And if you're going to get in my way, I'm going to move you out of the way so I can stop the avalanche.

01:01:34.000 So the game is always blackjack.

01:01:36.000 The way blackjack works is the casino gets 50.5% against someone who's playing basic strategy, like 49.5%.

01:01:44.000 You're looking at it like it's 50 for me, but the casino's looking at it like in the long run, it doesn't matter because that edge guarantees we make a profit.

01:01:51.000 That's how they view politics in government.

01:01:54.000 If 49.5% of the time the anti AI people win, they feel satisfied.

01:02:01.000 They're getting big victories.

01:02:02.000 So long as the machine is slightly over the edge, they're happy.

01:02:07.000 And in fact, this is how it's designed, right?

01:02:10.000 So I've described this show as a pressure release fail very likely, and that's why everything still trends left.

01:02:14.000 Even when you get two years of reprieve with Republicans, you get a major swing leftward because leftward was always the goal.

01:02:20.000 But when people were getting really, really angry over cancel culture and woke, you need to release the pressure.

01:02:25.000 But guess what?

01:02:25.000 The right wins.

01:02:26.000 They don't do anything.

01:02:28.000 People feel somewhat satisfied with marginal victories.

01:02:31.000 They're releasing the seam.

01:02:33.000 Then they close it back.

01:02:34.000 Pressure starts building up again.

01:02:36.000 So the main goal is people hate rapid change and they don't like AI.

01:02:41.000 It's going to eliminate jobs.

01:02:42.000 You need to give them an avenue to vent that frustration and that pressure so they don't burn everything down because, for the time being, you still need humans to build the machines and build the data centers.

01:02:53.000 If everyone burned everything down and we had a revolution, a legitimate one towards the left and anti AI, you don't get it done.

01:02:59.000 So, you need to give them an opportunity to win some things, but in the long run, you're still winning.

01:03:05.000 In a way, I'm kind of glad they took the House and the Senate.

01:03:08.000 The Democrats say they, but I'm glad because it's an opportunity to debate.

01:03:11.000 It was they, though.

01:03:12.000 To communicate again.

01:03:13.000 It was them.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, it was they.

01:03:15.000 It was so polarized.

01:03:16.000 They, them, they all.

01:03:18.000 Wait a minute.

01:03:19.000 You're happy that the Democrats took the House?

01:03:21.000 It feels like the right thing happened.

01:03:23.000 Why?

01:03:24.000 Because it's the only way forward is with both sides.

01:03:27.000 The Republicans were fighting a war in Iran.

01:03:30.000 It was crazy.

01:03:31.000 The Republicans had.

01:03:33.000 Like an extremely thin lead in or margin in both the House and the Senate.

01:03:40.000 Like they didn't have significant majorities.

01:03:42.000 Now the Democrats have significant majorities.

01:03:44.000 They don't have the ability to override the president's veto.

01:03:48.000 But come 2028, it's very likely that the Democrat candidate will win.

01:03:55.000 And then you're going to have a situation where the Democrats are probably going to have a significant lead in the House, a lead in the Senate.

01:04:03.000 And the presidency, and they're going to be able to push through most any legislation that they want.

01:04:08.000 I mean, hopefully, the next couple of years of pain would be, would kind of necessarily reset all of the things or uproot all of the things within the GOP that are just increasingly unpopular.

01:04:21.000 A lot of like the old neocon kind of establishment type of the, that flavor of the GOP that I personally dislike, and I know that a lot of Americans evidently dislike as they have just rebuked the Iran war and all of the negative economic, the downstream negative economic effects of that.

01:04:38.000 The upside of, you know, I'm not happy that Democrats won, but you could imagine that a couple years of this, people will realize, okay, we don't want that.

01:04:49.000 This wasn't exactly an endorsement of Democrats.

01:04:50.000 A lot of the ballot measures locally that were progressive failed, like Prop 40 in California, the billionaire wealth tax, all this sort of stuff wasn't exactly popular.

01:04:58.000 But hopefully the Republican Party will kind of adapt and learn from its mistakes.

01:05:02.000 It's kind of, you know, I'm dreaming over here, but I'm building an arc.

01:05:07.000 That's what I've been doing.

01:05:08.000 Today, as I read the news on AI every single day, I have three different models pulled up.

01:05:14.000 And the funniest thing to me, I tell you all, when I see people, I just saw a comment right now.

01:05:19.000 I don't know if I have it pulled up because Ian sent me this thing.

01:05:23.000 I don't know.

01:05:23.000 It's not pulled up.

01:05:24.000 Somebody commented in response to this development from Fable that AI is just a large, it's not artificial intelligence.

01:05:31.000 They're just large language models.

01:05:33.000 That person hasn't read the news in three years.

01:05:36.000 Large language models were 2021, 22, and they were fascinating.

01:05:40.000 It was a block that would predict whatever the most likely next word was, and it did a pretty good job of it.

01:05:45.000 The current artificial intelligences, or whatever you want to call them that we have, they don't even know how they work.

01:05:51.000 What is it, one trillion variables?

01:05:53.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:05:54.000 And they don't know how it outputs.

01:05:56.000 They don't.

01:05:57.000 And what would happen is they do if it's the dog ran to the next word, house.

01:05:57.000 They're called weights.

01:06:03.000 And so the thing would predict a word and then it would either get rated up or down.

01:06:07.000 And that's what they called a weight.

01:06:08.000 And so there's a trillion of those going at once.

01:06:08.000 Yes.

01:06:10.000 So at first, the weights were just based on words through written content online.

01:06:16.000 They then started adding music, video, programs, code.

01:06:23.000 And this project has been in place for a very, very long time.

01:06:26.000 It actually goes back to something, it goes back to CAPTCHA.

01:06:30.000 When you open up a website, Google has, or when you open up a website and say, prove you're not a robot, click the fire hydrant, you are training the AI to identify in imagery what fire hydrants look like.

01:06:42.000 When 70 million people around the world all click the fire hydrant, you create a substantial data pool.

01:06:49.000 Or weights for the AI.

01:06:52.000 So they've been building this for a long time.

01:06:54.000 Where we are at right now, they don't even know what is being weighted and how.

01:07:00.000 The neural nets of these AI are so vast, human beings cannot go in and see what is happening.

01:07:06.000 That's where we're at.

01:07:07.000 I'm so excited.

01:07:08.000 It feels like we've birthed a new species.

01:07:10.000 And I'm in, I'm all the way, man.

01:07:13.000 Whether humans make it or not, we're only here for 80, 90, 150 years anyway.

01:07:16.000 Like, yo, what is going on?

01:07:18.000 I'll say it again.

01:07:19.000 I'm building an arc for one reason.

01:07:21.000 There's a very real possibility of what Elon Musk says.

01:07:25.000 I'll put it simply you will own nothing and you'll be happy, is the argument being made by Elon and all these other people.

01:07:29.000 The AI end goal is you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:07:32.000 The problem is human behavior, human desire, and everything that makes every human on the planet cannot exist in that frame of mind overnight.

01:07:42.000 So there has to be a harsh revolution.

01:07:46.000 Maybe a civil war if people choose to fight back, but they have to force you into this.

01:07:51.000 I'll give you a really easy way to understand why.

01:07:53.000 If nobody can work to generate value because AI and automation has taken literally everything over, how do you acquire property?

01:08:01.000 Like literally beachfront property.

01:08:03.000 I want to own a very, very big house on the water.

01:08:06.000 Well, you can't because physical property can't be automated.

01:08:11.000 So they have to take all property away from people and make everything communal, which is what they promised with vehicles.

01:08:20.000 So now we're seeing the social transformation.

01:08:22.000 Gen Z can't and won't drive.

01:08:24.000 Elon Musk has stopped production of the Model S. Why?

01:08:27.000 Because Model S's are cyber cabs.

01:08:29.000 Cyber cabs are Model S's.

01:08:30.000 Take out the steering wheel.

01:08:32.000 The goal that they published 10 years ago every car fully automated, you will not own a car and you won't need to.

01:08:39.000 You'll pull up Uber, you'll press the button, and whatever car pulls up for you, there will be no traffic.

01:08:45.000 There will be no garages anymore.

01:08:47.000 There will be big warehouse facilities to charge and store vehicles.

01:08:50.000 That's the future they want to build.

01:08:52.000 Same thing with housing.

01:08:54.000 But how do you fundamentally alter an economy?

01:08:58.000 So it's possible.

01:09:00.000 I will say this right now, the people with money have the power in our system.

01:09:05.000 The economy is very, very bad.

01:09:08.000 You've got these big, was it BlackRock and Blackstone buying up properties?

01:09:13.000 Get the properties out of the hands of the people and into the hands of an institution, and you will not have to worry about the transformation.

01:09:21.000 If they right now turn the switch on, eliminate all the jobs, there are people who have lots of money who wake up to find all their hard work was worthless.

01:09:30.000 Those people are going to lose their minds.

01:09:32.000 There is going to be fighting in the streets.

01:09:35.000 Take away the property of everybody gradually, and then when you turn the switch on, there's nobody to complain.

01:09:43.000 So I believe this is what they're building and they're intentionally building it.

01:09:47.000 So, you know, this could be the exception, you know, AI.

01:09:52.000 But if you look through history, whenever, you know, from the printing press to Ford Model Ts and so on, humans always adapted.

01:10:03.000 So the question is will we?

01:10:05.000 Or is this it?

01:10:07.000 It's not.

01:10:08.000 Which is like, are we now in a new world?

01:10:10.000 But survivability is not adaptation to change.

01:10:13.000 It's adaptation at this point to rate of change.

01:10:16.000 Rate of change.

01:10:16.000 Yes.

01:10:17.000 It used to be that it's not that the fittest survive, it's that those most amenable to change survive.

01:10:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:23.000 Now the question will be those who can adapt to rate of change will survive.

01:10:27.000 Yeah, can you foresee what AI is about to do next?

01:10:30.000 Can you be there every day and see how it alters?

01:10:32.000 That's why I said I'm building an arc.

01:10:34.000 The considerations that I've had for some time pertaining to the political elements that we're seeing.

01:10:39.000 As well as the AI is.

01:10:41.000 If this is to happen, what do you need to survive?

01:10:45.000 And the first and most important thing you'd need in the event Elon Musk succeeds is mental fortitude.

01:10:51.000 You need monk like grace because when they take everything you own away from you and there is no going back to owning things, you've worked for it.

01:11:01.000 You need to maintain your mental fortitude.

01:11:04.000 Otherwise, you'll go insane.

01:11:06.000 Yep.

01:11:07.000 You worked your hands to the bone, you work 16 hours a day, and then you wake up and Everything you did was for nothing.

01:11:13.000 People are going to have psychotic episodes.

01:11:15.000 What if we turn it to people who have nothing?

01:11:18.000 What do you mean?

01:11:19.000 People who've worked for nothing, have nothing, and now the new reality comes in.

01:11:24.000 The challenge there is I do believe that any sufficient, again, conspiratorial, but they'd have to kill a lot of people.

01:11:33.000 So anybody who owns a business knows why we have the laws that we have.

01:11:38.000 It's not by choice because the government makes you do these things.

01:11:41.000 And then questions arise in business where, like, a really A really obvious one.

01:11:46.000 I'll tell you a story.

01:11:47.000 I worked for Fusion, everybody knows.

01:11:49.000 And this is a company that was built on about $300 million in investment with no profit.

01:11:53.000 They had revenue, but no profit.

01:11:55.000 I leave the company shortly after, unrelated, but shortly after, a bunch of the employees decided to unionize.

01:12:03.000 And so I met with one of my friends who worked there, and she said, We deserve more money.

01:12:08.000 And I said to her, But your company does not make money.

01:12:11.000 So who are you asking the money for?

01:12:11.000 Yeah, you're not.

01:12:14.000 Who's going to give you the money?

01:12:15.000 And she goes, I don't understand what you mean.

01:12:17.000 And I said, Your company does not generate money.

01:12:22.000 Someone put money in one time.

01:12:25.000 You have an account with money in it that is going down.

01:12:27.000 When you say, I want more, you're going to the guy who controls the coffer and saying, Give me more money.

01:12:33.000 People do not, at the entry and lower levels of work, understand that there has to be a greater inflow than outflow.

01:12:40.000 I'm telling you, as someone who owns numerous businesses, this is true.

01:12:45.000 So when you produce this system, people are going to say, I deserve more.

01:12:50.000 But there is no more.

01:12:52.000 These people will have psychotic breaks.

01:12:55.000 Zero sum game.

01:12:55.000 Upside of more.

01:12:57.000 In Texas, they are building four new nuclear power plants for the first time in.

01:13:00.000 American history.

01:13:01.000 The government's coming.

01:13:02.000 So that's building more.

01:13:03.000 Let me put it this way.

01:13:04.000 Let me put it this way.

01:13:07.000 I was in Brazil.

01:13:08.000 Who was I telling this story?

01:13:08.000 Funny story.

01:13:09.000 Was I on the show?

01:13:11.000 But I love the story.

01:13:12.000 I went to the favelas and I was in a shanty.

01:13:15.000 And the woman said in Portuguese, and then my translator translated, Why are the rich people protesting in America?

01:13:21.000 This was a couple of years after Occupy Wall Street.

01:13:24.000 And then he tells me that and I was like, She's mistaken.

01:13:26.000 The rich people aren't protesting.

01:13:27.000 And then he says it to her and she says, What do you mean?

01:13:30.000 All Americans are rich.

01:13:31.000 All Americans are rich.

01:13:32.000 She lived in a shanty town where she couldn't flush her toilet.

01:13:34.000 So, you have in America clean running water, hot water, air conditioning, refrigerators.

01:13:39.000 iPhone?

01:13:40.000 Well, not for poor people, but poor people have air conditioning, refrigerators, clean running water.

01:13:45.000 Not everyone everywhere, but like most people in this country in poverty can stand outside and yell cheeseburger.

01:13:52.000 Someone will hand them one.

01:13:54.000 I'm not kidding.

01:13:55.000 Walk into the center of New York, go to Times Square, and literally just look at someone and say cheeseburger.

01:14:00.000 Just keep doing it.

01:14:01.000 Someone will eventually walk back with a McDonald's cheeseburger for you.

01:14:04.000 That is the utmost of global and historical wealth.

01:14:08.000 And people still want more.

01:14:11.000 So, when they enact what Elon Musk is saying they will enact, and people can have whatever they want whenever they want, they're going to want more.

01:14:17.000 They're going to get fat.

01:14:18.000 They're going to get diseased.

01:14:19.000 It's going to get wild.

01:14:20.000 These people are going to go psychotic.

01:14:22.000 So, any organizer of this system, Elon or anybody else, I'm not trying to single out Elon, but he's the big guy, they already know this.

01:14:30.000 They know full well what the average person will do when handed everything.

01:14:37.000 Because we've seen it.

01:14:37.000 Why?

01:14:38.000 Over and over again.

01:14:40.000 There was a small village in Saudi Arabia.

01:14:42.000 They discovered oil.

01:14:43.000 They bought the rights to the oil.

01:14:45.000 These are people that lived in huts and one day had access to millions of dollars.

01:14:49.000 What do they do?

01:14:50.000 They all bought gold chains and covered themselves in gold and jewels for no reason.

01:14:55.000 And people who run the system say that doesn't make sense and cannot survive.

01:15:01.000 But they don't know how to do anything else.

01:15:07.000 You should buy ammo.

01:15:10.000 Maybe.

01:15:11.000 But again, I'm saying this.

01:15:13.000 I believe that the people running this show fully expect catastrophe.

01:15:18.000 They've planned for it.

01:15:19.000 There's contingencies for it.

01:15:20.000 You do not build these things without thinking of these things.

01:15:23.000 Not only that, but the internal models they have probably told them this already.

01:15:28.000 I'm starting to get into really like this guy.

01:15:31.000 You've all know a Harari.

01:15:32.000 I had a lot of issues with him during COVID because he was with the World Economic Forum, talked a lot about central corporate governance, useless eaters.

01:15:39.000 He would refer to the people that aren't contributing.

01:15:41.000 But now I really like him.

01:15:44.000 I really like him.

01:15:45.000 And I think he's on to something.

01:15:47.000 He's expressing the utilitarian nature of reality that if it hits the fan, there are people that are, you know, they're not completely useless.

01:15:56.000 It's a metaphor, but like they're not really contributing, but they still want something.

01:16:01.000 And they're like, even if you give them stuff, they still want it.

01:16:04.000 It's like, you know, they want another sandwich because you got to eat every day.

01:16:07.000 I understand every day.

01:16:08.000 You can't just eat once and be done.

01:16:09.000 You have to constantly take and take and take to survive.

01:16:14.000 But it's coming to the point where we all have to become philosophers and not whatever we are.

01:16:21.000 Not everybody can be a philosopher.

01:16:22.000 Because dealing with it is all about philosophy now.

01:16:25.000 It's about this deep.

01:16:28.000 Yeah, I mean, Zen and, you know, because what do we otherwise.

01:16:34.000 Not everybody can be a philosopher.

01:16:36.000 I mean, look, Jordan Peterson outlined it when he said, look, there's, you know, a certain percentage of the population has an 85 and under IQ.

01:16:43.000 And those people can't do, they can't join the military because they can't be trained to do anything.

01:16:50.000 Like they just, they make everything they try to do, they just make it worse.

01:16:50.000 Right?

01:16:53.000 And so there has got to be a plan.

01:16:57.000 To be able to deal with the fact that a certain percentage of the population just isn't going to be able to function, so we have to do we have to be able to take care of them, make sure that their needs are met because just because they can't function doesn't mean that they can't be violent and destroy things, right?

01:17:13.000 Like, the only thing they can do, yeah.

01:17:16.000 I mean, so you have to be able to provide society, has to be able to provide for them and manage you know that section of the population.

01:17:24.000 And to be honest with you, the people that are you know 85 to 100, you know, it's like.

01:17:28.000 Just because they can do stuff doesn't mean that they can engage in philosophy.

01:17:34.000 They're not going to read Nietzsche and be like, that makes total sense.

01:17:39.000 That's fairly deep philosophy.

01:17:42.000 We have a significant portion of the population that has to be taken care of and managed.

01:17:48.000 And I don't know what the answer is or how to do it, but it's definitely true.

01:17:54.000 When the cyber truck comes out that can drive on its own.

01:17:58.000 What do you mean it can?

01:17:59.000 Oh, you mean long.

01:18:01.000 Long haul.

01:18:02.000 Yeah, when it's actually implemented, right?

01:18:04.000 People are going to want the cyber trucks to be driving because human beings make more mistakes than the cyber truck.

01:18:12.000 So people are going to say, look, this massive piece of equipment being run by a computer, which has a significantly lower error rate than people drivers, the regular people are going to demand that.

01:18:27.000 And that means all the people that drive trucks are going to be out of a job.

01:18:32.000 And it's not meant to be an insult to people that drive trucks.

01:18:36.000 But it's not like driving a truck is trying to, you know, is rocket science or whatever.

01:18:42.000 It's not super, super, super complex.

01:18:45.000 So there's a large portion of the population that, if they're driving a truck, maybe that's the top end of their ability, right?

01:18:52.000 They can drive trucks.

01:18:53.000 What do you do with those people?

01:18:55.000 They have to be provided for.

01:18:56.000 And in today's world, actually, that's a good job.

01:18:59.000 And they're strongly middle class.

01:19:01.000 Yeah.

01:19:02.000 And they get paid well.

01:19:03.000 But the idea that everybody has to become a philosopher or the idea that everybody's going to become a.

01:19:10.000 You know, a maker basically, right?

01:19:12.000 There's only so many people that have ideas or have an interest in trying to create things.

01:19:18.000 So you can give people AI that's incredibly capable, but it doesn't mean that they're going to use AI to come up with anything useful.

01:19:26.000 Can I read this to you?

01:19:27.000 Sure.

01:19:27.000 I said, if AI eliminated 50% of jobs in six months, would the U.S. have a violent revolution?

01:19:34.000 Probably not a revolution in the sense of overthrowing the government, but almost certainly serious violence.

01:19:40.000 There you go.

01:19:42.000 Half of U.S. jobs, 80 million.

01:19:44.000 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

01:19:47.000 Expect large riots, attacks on AI infrastructure, emergency legislation, income support, a forced slowdown and nationalization of AI, political realignment.

01:19:47.000 Good Christmas.

01:19:58.000 The system would likely bend hard rather than break.

01:20:03.000 Some argue modern surveillance and policing make revolt impossible regardless.

01:20:09.000 And with AI surveillance systems, they'll predict these things before they can actually do any real.

01:20:13.000 Try to do a violent revolution, the AI stomps you down and then solidifies the control mechanism of totalitarian spy states.

01:20:20.000 So, you got to be careful about how you overthrow or change.

01:20:23.000 Revolution just means to turn forward.

01:20:25.000 So, like our government is a series of revolutions.

01:20:28.000 Every four years, we vote and there's a revolution of people in power.

01:20:32.000 So, how we revolve and change the system is up to us.

01:20:36.000 I mean, it's up to a lot, all of us as humans, and it's up to the thinkers.

01:20:39.000 Like Phil's saying, it's not everybody's equipped to philosophize about the potential outcomes of the natures of the future, but we will have to anyway.

01:20:48.000 And it's like in your arsenal of, Computation, like any programmer now has to be a computer programmer, a designer, a coder, a graphic designer, an artist.

01:20:58.000 You need to learn how to be a publicist.

01:21:00.000 You need like eight different jobs now to have one.

01:21:04.000 And it's the same thing with philosophy.

01:21:05.000 You need to integrate that into the way you think as just part of the way you think.

01:21:09.000 It's depressing, though, to constantly think you might be wrong and to always be considering maybe you're wrong.

01:21:16.000 That's depressing?

01:21:17.000 For me, it is.

01:21:18.000 Really?

01:21:19.000 Yeah.

01:21:20.000 It really feels really good to know I'm right.

01:21:23.000 I totally don't experience that because there is an infinite number of things that I don't and cannot and will never know.

01:21:32.000 The very few things that I know that I actually do know, like it makes me feel good that I know those things.

01:21:40.000 But the idea that I don't know something, that, like, I mean, what's going on in Andromeda?

01:21:47.000 Oh, and there's billions of stars in Andromeda.

01:21:51.000 And there's trillions of galaxies in the universe.

01:21:51.000 What's going on?

01:21:56.000 There's, there's, there, like, You can't quantify all the things you don't know.

01:22:01.000 So, being ignorant of something, it shouldn't, or at least for me, it doesn't make me feel like inferior because everybody's in this basic state of infinite ignorance.

01:22:15.000 Not just ignorance, but considering I'm actually wrong is terrifying because, like, look at Trump.

01:22:20.000 He hardly ever admits if he's wrong, and people loved him for it.

01:22:24.000 They would be like, yeah, we want a guy that just says this is it, and he never backs down.

01:22:28.000 It feels good to do that.

01:22:29.000 It feels bad to be like, sorry, guys, I think I might have been wrong on that.

01:22:33.000 Or I think we should do this, but there's a good chance it won't work.

01:22:35.000 Like, people don't want to hear that.

01:22:36.000 They don't, and they ridicule you as well.

01:22:38.000 So people don't respond well to that.

01:22:40.000 People respond well to confidence, true.

01:22:42.000 But I mean, people that are like the really, really intelligent people are always like, I don't know if I'm right about this.

01:22:51.000 I might be wrong.

01:22:52.000 Being able to put up a, and I'm not saying lie, but being able to articulate the things that you do know with confidence, people respond well to that.

01:23:01.000 But Smart people are smart enough to be like, Yeah, I there's a lot of stuff that I don't know, and and just trying to trying to hot trying to I guess avoid that fact I think is counterproductive.

01:23:14.000 Smart people tend to be a little bit more modest about what they can and cannot do.

01:23:18.000 If somebody is going out there with full confidence about you know all of their abilities, they're obviously I mean, that's an inherent lie, yeah, and slightly untrustworthy.

01:23:28.000 It's also kind of a prerequisite if you want to work in politics, so that tells you a lot in business, too.

01:23:33.000 Business leaders, it's not good to say that we might fail if you're in business.

01:23:37.000 Here's where we are as of today 5.1% of U.S. wage and salary jobs are capable of being instantly automated should the companies choose to do so.

01:23:46.000 I love it.

01:23:47.000 Wages AI could technically handle.

01:23:50.000 MIT and Oak Ridge Iceberg Index finds 11.7% of total U.S. wage value is at risk of automation.

01:23:57.000 That's $1.2 trillion of the U.S. GDP could be wiped out right now.

01:24:04.000 Jobs that are already half automated, 20% of US jobs already have been automated to the point where, as a good example, actually, people who work for like software firms have already started reporting that all they actually do now is prompt, they don't write code anymore.

01:24:18.000 And they're not hiring coders, they're hiring prompters.

01:24:21.000 They'll hire one guy to do code to review for bugs and stuff, and then hire five people to do prompts.

01:24:27.000 So 20% already half automated.

01:24:30.000 50% of all work hours in the United States could be automated as of today.

01:24:37.000 Oh my gosh.

01:24:39.000 Wow.

01:24:40.000 Yeah, I've noticed it.

01:24:41.000 Or you can do twice as many times more output.

01:24:43.000 Now, I want to explain what this means.

01:24:45.000 The reason why it's 5% of jobs can be totally eliminated is because.

01:24:51.000 That means literally just having an AI run the thing.

01:24:53.000 So, probably filing your taxes.

01:24:55.000 50% of work hours is because a company still needs a head of graphic, right?

01:25:02.000 So, you don't need a graphic designer anymore, but you need someone who's going to be in charge of where the graphics are going, making sure they're getting done.

01:25:09.000 And so, that means half of their workload is gone.

01:25:14.000 Now, it's largely an administrative position, which will be eliminated probably in six months.

01:25:18.000 So, 57% of work hours as of right now, because a lot of jobs in white collar.

01:25:24.000 Are human beings who work with the company now using AI to do the job instead?

01:25:28.000 Sooner or later, and this is predicted two years ago, we're going to have AI managers, which we already do actually.

01:25:35.000 And you know about this.

01:25:36.000 I have like five of them running in my house right now.

01:25:38.000 And one AI manager has five AIs.

01:25:40.000 And it manages and maintains all of them.

01:25:40.000 Yes.

01:25:42.000 And then helper bots.

01:25:43.000 You give the manager the program.

01:25:43.000 Yep.

01:25:44.000 Helper bots.

01:25:45.000 So I'll tell one managing AI, make this.

01:25:47.000 And he's like, all right, sending out five helper bots, one sole medium brain to write the code.

01:25:51.000 I'll have a Gemini brain review the code.

01:25:54.000 And then Envelopus will come in and review the Gemini's review.

01:25:56.000 Yeah.

01:25:57.000 And then I'm like, And they just all work together.

01:25:59.000 I give them one command and I order them to do it this way and then they spread out.

01:26:02.000 That's what Grokbot does inherently.

01:26:04.000 If you use Grokbot, it spins up other agents to do things.

01:26:07.000 You'll have one agent to do one task, another agent to do another task, and then your Grokbot is the actual one telling them what to do.

01:26:14.000 A magic word is to tell them to run in parallel.

01:26:16.000 If you want to really get the most out of your AI, tell them to do it and do as much as you can in parallel.

01:26:22.000 And they will just flood the system and get it done.

01:26:24.000 That's where I'm like, I need better hardware.

01:26:26.000 You realize the confluence between software and hardware right away if you start running stuff in parallel.

01:26:31.000 Goes to maximum instant.

01:26:32.000 I think one of the real difficult things right now is most people don't know or care about the AI stuff because it's new and they can't see it.

01:26:43.000 So it's very difficult for us, for me particularly on this show, with my finger on the pulse of what is happening, to talk about what most people want to talk about.

01:26:54.000 So I say, like, you know, over the past couple of weeks, we've had a lot of AI segments and we know for a fact because we've asked the AI that most people don't know and don't care.

01:27:04.000 And that's terrifying to me.

01:27:06.000 We've got a story here from TMZ.

01:27:07.000 I'll pull it up.

01:27:08.000 Joe Biden takes cover as protesters hurl objects to arrested in Ireland.

01:27:13.000 It's a horrifying story.

01:27:15.000 They were chanting, Blood on your hands, throwing objects at.

01:27:18.000 How old's the dude?

01:27:19.000 82?

01:27:24.000 Blasting him with lasers.

01:27:27.000 Look at it.

01:27:27.000 Oh, man.

01:27:35.000 Milkshakes, huh?

01:27:36.000 He'll turn 80.

01:27:36.000 They got milkshakes.

01:27:36.000 He's 83.

01:27:38.000 What are they mad about?

01:27:39.000 They were trying Palestine.

01:27:40.000 Yes, he's there.

01:27:41.000 So here's the thing.

01:27:44.000 I'm going to break down the meta of all of it.

01:27:47.000 When we were starting the show today, I was like, is this like the lead?

01:27:50.000 Do we want to lead with like Joe Biden got attacked?

01:27:51.000 And the problem is Joe Biden hasn't been president for years.

01:27:55.000 It's like, so it's interesting, but it's not the big lead story that all Americans want to know about.

01:28:00.000 Well, and the issue is the big lead story that people need to know about is AI, but nobody cares about it.

01:28:04.000 So I'm rather pessimistic.

01:28:07.000 And, uh, It doesn't mean you got to feel bad.

01:28:10.000 I know a lot of people don't like hearing these things.

01:28:12.000 They don't want to be blackpilled.

01:28:13.000 But I always tell people, like, look, if you see a hurricane coming, if you get the weather forecast, a hurricane's coming.

01:28:18.000 It's not being blackpilled, it's just knowing it's coming.

01:28:21.000 I don't feel depressed by it.

01:28:22.000 I'm just like, there's a hurricane coming.

01:28:23.000 I feel like I'm getting educated, actually.

01:28:25.000 The issue I see right now is for most people, this story is infinitely more interesting.

01:28:30.000 Whoa, Joe Biden had ice cream thrown at him.

01:28:32.000 They were throwing milkshakes.

01:28:34.000 Man.

01:28:35.000 And then I'm sitting here as everybody's staring at the old man get milkshakes thrown at him, and there is a tsunami wave about to hit us.

01:28:40.000 The nice thing about being phenomenally.

01:28:43.000 Wealthy and famous, like you are, is you can decide what people have to listen to.

01:28:47.000 It's technically they can turn it off, but they're not.

01:28:50.000 They're still listening because they trust you, they believe in your message, and they're like, okay, if you're gonna force me to listen to Brussels sprouts tonight, I'm gonna eat them.

01:28:56.000 It's bitter, I'm gonna learn to eat them.

01:28:56.000 You're incorrect.

01:28:58.000 You're absolutely correct.

01:28:59.000 It's one of the values of being famous, you can use that power to change public discourse to a certain degree.

01:28:59.000 I don't think so.

01:29:04.000 But the reason why I say you're wrong is because I can actually watch the viewer count go down when we talk about AI, and I can actually see the clips we put up after the show about AI, how they bomb every time.

01:29:14.000 And then, when we do an AI analysis of the show, it says, stop talking about AI.

01:29:18.000 And I'm like, oh man, are we screwed?

01:29:20.000 They want to talk about the apples in the tree, and you're like planting new trees, and they're like, I don't even see a sapling yet.

01:29:25.000 What are you doing, Tim?

01:29:26.000 No, they're pointing at the rotten apple, and they're arguing whether it's food or not.

01:29:31.000 And there's a hurricane right there.

01:29:33.000 And you're being market driven by watching your data and saying, well, I guess they want to hear about Biden, even though I think AI is a hurricane.

01:29:42.000 Well, on this show, we can talk about what matters, not what I think is market driven.

01:29:47.000 That's why we led with Heg Seth.

01:29:48.000 But you were just saying that the views are down when we talk about AI.

01:29:53.000 And we've been talking about AI for a half an hour.

01:29:55.000 Which is my point.

01:29:57.000 This show is not driven by market outreach.

01:29:59.000 But I think that we are, as a society, cooked in that the biggest threat to humanity right now and to our country and to our Constitution and Declaration of Independence, most people do not care about.

01:30:12.000 The fastest thing that will burn the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is going to be AI.

01:30:17.000 And regular people are like, I don't understand how, so I don't care.

01:30:20.000 So, Tudy, there is the phenomenon.

01:30:21.000 I don't care because I don't get it.

01:30:22.000 You know, that guy was like, You don't understand.

01:30:24.000 The problem is global warming.

01:30:26.000 So, maybe there's that.

01:30:27.000 Maybe AI is not the problem, but maybe.

01:30:31.000 And also, what other questions?

01:30:33.000 No, the problem is if you are someone who thinks the American constitutional republic must stand, AI is your biggest threat.

01:30:42.000 Yeah, my biggest threat and my biggest strength.

01:30:43.000 It's crazy.

01:30:44.000 It's a big weapon.

01:30:45.000 Why do you say that?

01:30:45.000 Unpack that.

01:30:47.000 If you want a system of governance as it stands right now, you cannot have a rapid transformation of your economy that results in riots.

01:30:55.000 You can't have people who are ultra wealthy who do no work and people who struggle every day and can't pay their bills.

01:31:00.000 Your system will break apart.

01:31:02.000 The communists will take over and they will burn your constitution.

01:31:05.000 So the risk I see right now is it's the Morlock and the Eloy.

01:31:10.000 That's how I describe it.

01:31:11.000 The people of slightly above average comprehension are seeing these systems and going, I can exploit this.

01:31:17.000 And you're seeing this like crazy on social media where people are making these AI channels and they're getting, they're making six figures.

01:31:25.000 These are young guys who went from being totally broke, telling Claude, make the channel for me, and doing almost nothing, and now making 20K a month.

01:31:34.000 And there's a guy who's a plumber who can't find work right now.

01:31:36.000 He can't pay the bills.

01:31:38.000 His car got repoed.

01:31:39.000 That guy's going to the DSA.

01:31:41.000 They are going to riot and say, I refuse to be in a society of haves and have nots.

01:31:47.000 It's going to break everything.

01:31:48.000 You can have American constitutional republicanism with AI, but you can't have a rapid overnight evolution like this.

01:31:55.000 The other thing I was saying is that maybe.

01:31:57.000 All through human history, whenever there are revolutionary technologies developed, like you said, the printing press earlier, that 89% of the population doesn't give a shit.

01:32:05.000 Like they have no idea.

01:32:06.000 They're just like, I'm just waiting until they figure it out and then I'm going to follow whatever we do.

01:32:06.000 They don't want to know.

01:32:11.000 So that's probably going on now with AI.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, but the changes that AI are predicted to have are significantly more drastic than the printing press, right?

01:32:25.000 The printing presses change.

01:32:28.000 Probably had a similar impact, but they were diffuse and they took longer because just because you could print books doesn't mean that everybody could read.

01:32:36.000 So, when I talk about like the adoption of AI is going to take a certain amount of time that we can't predict, the same kind of thing happened with the printing press, right?

01:32:44.000 Just because you could print stuff, then people had an impetus to learn to read because most people couldn't read before the printing press, right?

01:32:53.000 Like, if you're a farmer and you learned to farm from your dad, you're living in an agrarian society.

01:32:59.000 You don't have to read.

01:33:00.000 You are shown how to do the stuff and you're shown which seeds to plant, and it's all done by being demonstrated to you.

01:33:07.000 So, you had to learn to read before that mattered.

01:33:10.000 With the computers, with the introduction of computers, there was a time where everybody was like, nobody's going to work anymore because computers are going to take all the jobs.

01:33:19.000 But computers themselves streamlined work, but people still had to learn how to use word processors, had to learn how to use different programs and stuff.

01:33:28.000 With AI, The difference is AI can understand humans speaking.

01:33:35.000 So you can just tell the AI what result you want.

01:33:39.000 This is what I was talking about the other night.

01:33:40.000 With an AI, you don't have to know anything in particular.

01:33:45.000 You have to have an idea and an ability to articulate your idea.

01:33:50.000 That's it.

01:33:51.000 Especially with the newest models and the models that will be coming in the next six months.

01:33:55.000 All you have to do is say, hey, I'm looking to do this.

01:33:59.000 Can you do it?

01:34:00.000 And it'll do it.

01:34:01.000 And then say, well, hey, it didn't do this.

01:34:04.000 Can you change this?

01:34:05.000 Can you change that?

01:34:06.000 And it'll do it.

01:34:07.000 The interface is like interfacing with another human being, it's like talking to a person.

01:34:12.000 So you don't have to learn anything special.

01:34:15.000 You don't have to learn to use a DAW like you did to use a computer to record music.

01:34:20.000 You don't have to learn to use a word processor.

01:34:22.000 You don't have to learn Excel.

01:34:23.000 You don't have to learn all of these other things.

01:34:26.000 All you have to do is be able to communicate your idea.

01:34:29.000 That gives me hope about the people you're saying under ADIQ that they'll be able to.

01:34:33.000 Just get what they need out of it.

01:34:34.000 But the, no, because, no, because people with an under 80 IQ don't have the ideas in the first place.

01:34:40.000 That's the question.

01:34:40.000 Do they know what they need?

01:34:42.000 Yeah, they don't know the question to ask.

01:34:42.000 No.

01:34:44.000 That's what you're saying.

01:34:45.000 It's not, I think it's an even deeper problem than not knowing the question to ask.

01:34:49.000 They don't have a concept of what they need, they don't have an end result in mind, right?

01:34:55.000 Like, so it's not just that how do you ask an AI to get the end result.

01:34:59.000 The end result, it doesn't, they don't, they can't conceptualize a thing that they want the AI to do.

01:35:05.000 So for people that, you know, are, are, I know this is kind of a crass way of saying it, but for dumb people, AI doesn't make you smarter.

01:35:14.000 It's like having a Lamborghini, but you don't know how to drive.

01:35:19.000 It's actually more like having a Lamborghini, but not having any legs or arms.

01:35:23.000 We're going to have to have UBI to prevent civil war.

01:35:27.000 Yes.

01:35:28.000 You're going to have to go to all the poor people and guarantee they get free stuff.

01:35:31.000 The problem is, even when they get free stuff, they still want more.

01:35:33.000 But then the other problem is with the system, why I say it never works and it cannot work.

01:35:38.000 You've got a bunch of angry people who demand stuff and they have no skills.

01:35:41.000 Well, they're not going to roll over and die.

01:35:43.000 I don't expect them to, but they don't have what it takes to survive.

01:35:45.000 So you give them welfare.

01:35:47.000 Then there's a guy who does just enough to survive, but he's struggling and he works to the bone.

01:35:53.000 And he looks to his left and he sees a fat lady.

01:35:55.000 Buying prime rib on EBT.

01:35:58.000 And he's like, I just got off a double shift.

01:36:01.000 I'm filthy.

01:36:03.000 I'm dead tired.

01:36:04.000 And I can barely afford this T bone.

01:36:08.000 And this lady does nothing.

01:36:10.000 That's why UBI won't work because that, either way, you're going to get a riot.

01:36:13.000 That dude's going to riot, or you don't give the welfare.

01:36:16.000 That's probably why these rich people look at the other people as like.

01:36:16.000 The lady's going to riot.

01:36:19.000 Are they buying bunkers and building underground bases?

01:36:21.000 How the New Zealand.

01:36:22.000 They look at the people like children or like chickens or useless eaters is because it's like, if you are raising a family, They don't do any, they don't contribute at all, the kids.

01:36:31.000 They just are there, and you have to work your fingers to the bone to provide for these other people.

01:36:35.000 And it's kind of like that sociologically with UBI.

01:36:38.000 You know, people are going to feel like the parents.

01:36:41.000 Well, maybe like, I don't know, I was thinking about this, not super thoroughly because I'm a proud member of the ADIQ community, but I figure that UBI actually might be nice for some women who would probably be able to actually spend more time doing the things that are actually fulfilling to them, like having children, focusing on their family, because they don't have to worry about a dual income household.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, but they're going to get.

01:37:04.000 You know, they're going to get sperm from Facebook.

01:37:08.000 They've been doing.

01:37:09.000 A marketplace?

01:37:10.000 This is what women have been doing.

01:37:13.000 So, the issue right now for a lot of women is that there is a crisis.

01:37:19.000 There is an affordability crisis.

01:37:21.000 There's a functional crisis for young men who can't, if you can't buy a house, if you can't feed a family, you're not going to get married and have kids.

01:37:28.000 And so these guys are pissed.

01:37:31.000 For women who do have money and can't find a guy, They go on Facebook Marketplace and they find a guy to inseminate them.

01:37:37.000 And then they'll.

01:37:38.000 So if you give women UBI, you're going to get a lot of that because they're going to be like, why do I want to?

01:37:43.000 I don't have to live with a guy who's not going to provide for me and I don't want to be around.

01:37:46.000 I'm not going to.

01:37:47.000 I don't know.

01:37:49.000 Maybe some girls would probably still want that.

01:37:51.000 It's like nice.

01:37:52.000 Sure.

01:37:53.000 But those conservatives exist and don't need welfare because they're willing to do hard work and sacrifice.

01:37:57.000 Well, another thing that UBI, that kind of concerns me about UBI, is that like, yes, the productivity issues, but also like in an increasingly secular society, what are people going to do?

01:38:07.000 What are genuinely what are people going to drive?

01:38:09.000 Value and purposeful nothing good, yeah.

01:38:11.000 That's the other now.

01:38:12.000 They're going to plug their brains into the car and they're going to stimulate all the so just to just to scratch an itch here.

01:38:20.000 So, Biden, it's it's the left eating itself, okay.

01:38:24.000 So, Biden, when he was when he was president, uh, the Gaza war happened and all these bad things happened.

01:38:30.000 So, the extreme left and he it was under his gut, he's he's he's he was in charge.

01:38:36.000 So, the extreme left is mad at him in Ireland and they're throwing tomatoes because he is a killer, a genocider, because he allowed.

01:38:43.000 The Gaza war to happen when he was in charge.

01:38:47.000 So, and we have no skin in the game because it's like them against them kind of a thing.

01:38:51.000 But that's what's going on.

01:38:53.000 I'm on a team Biden on this one.

01:38:54.000 I mean, lay off.

01:38:55.000 I mean, he's my president.

01:38:57.000 Did you guys see the letter that Trump wrote for Biden?

01:38:59.000 Yeah.

01:39:00.000 It's amazing.

01:39:00.000 Yeah.

01:39:01.000 Absolutely incredible.

01:39:02.000 Yes.

01:39:02.000 I should have just pulled it up.

01:39:03.000 That was so classy.

01:39:06.000 Extremely magnanimous.

01:39:07.000 Everything that you hear about the guy and then he writes a letter like this, you look.

01:39:12.000 Really?

01:39:12.000 Here's what Trump wrote Dear Joe.

01:39:15.000 Coming to work every day in the Oval Office is a blessing beyond imagination.

01:39:18.000 History resounds from every wall, every statue, every beautiful painting, and every corner of this magical place.

01:39:24.000 Each staircase, hallway, and door leads to yet another door and memory, another inflection point in the glorious story of America.

01:39:31.000 I hope you take a moment every single day to take stock of where you are and the people who came before you, the titans who shaped the course of human events.

01:39:39.000 You now have the opportunity to choose your place in history, and I know you will be true to yourself and the American people.

01:39:45.000 Many presidents have come and gone who simply governed as Republicans or Democrats.

01:39:49.000 Largely, they did not change history.

01:39:51.000 They were just swept along in its relentless tide.

01:39:53.000 This will not happen to you because I know how much you love the American people.

01:39:57.000 Not only are you joined by the past, but you carry the hopes and dreams of the entire nation on your shoulders.

01:40:02.000 The gravity of that fact never leaves you.

01:40:04.000 It is the anchor that grounds every decision you make.

01:40:07.000 Your strength, your deepest reservoir of energy, comes from the knowledge that millions upon millions of people are depending on you.

01:40:13.000 Their ambitions and aspirations are the reason you are here, with so many counting on your success.

01:40:18.000 May God bless you and Jill, and may God bless America.

01:40:20.000 Sincerely, Donald.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 Now that.

01:40:24.000 Incredibly laggy.

01:40:25.000 I wish that's how Donald Trump was.

01:40:27.000 I was going to say, show of hands.

01:40:29.000 Well, he is.

01:40:30.000 Just more often.

01:40:31.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 Do you know that historically, so this, the first letter, this is a tradition that presidents do, and the first letter was by Ronald Reagan, who is my hero, because I'm old.

01:40:43.000 I'm not a fan of Reagan, though, because of no fault divorce.

01:40:45.000 Because of what?

01:40:46.000 No fault divorce.

01:40:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:48.000 I agree.

01:40:49.000 Oh, in California.

01:40:50.000 Yeah, he effectively started all of this.

01:40:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:54.000 And as well as amnesty.

01:40:56.000 Yeah, I don't know that.

01:40:57.000 I don't know that.

01:40:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:59.000 I mean, it's back in vogue.

01:41:01.000 Amnesty, that's what they're saying.

01:41:03.000 Well, Trump, Trump's gonna, Trump, Trump will have amnesty.

01:41:06.000 I, I, I, yeah, I, I absolutely believe Trump will grant amnesty.

01:41:10.000 And the reason why is the economy will collapse without mass illegal immigration.

01:41:14.000 No, no, don't get me wrong.

01:41:15.000 There's other things you can do to save the economy, but the American people are unwilling to do those things.

01:41:19.000 I'm not saying the viewers of this show or most conservatives, but generally speaking, the plurality or majority of Americans are unwilling to do what must be done to preserve the economy.

01:41:27.000 They would like the easy solution of just letting 50 million people from Honduras, whatever.

01:41:32.000 That's why we haven't done workplace enforcement.

01:41:34.000 Yeah, we wanted mass deportations, the easiest, least expensive, cleanest, you know, like cleanest in the sense like, you know, no casualties, no violence.

01:41:43.000 That's the easiest way to do it.

01:41:45.000 And yet we haven't done it.

01:41:46.000 That and debanking.

01:41:48.000 And why not have also like a special status so that, I mean, the biggest thing that Republicans are concerned about with all the immigration is they're going to become Democratic voters.

01:41:58.000 Well, what if we have a, there's no path to, To being a citizen.

01:42:04.000 Now, because if you're Portuguese and you live in France, you still vote in Portugal and the EU, right?

01:42:11.000 So, why do you do it this way?

01:42:13.000 Well, because first of all, our census is based on population.

01:42:19.000 So, that's a problem.

01:42:20.000 And you were going to say something.

01:42:21.000 Go ahead.

01:42:21.000 Well, I was going to say, I think the problem is beyond just the immediate political implications of importing a ton of people.

01:42:27.000 It's that your country becomes unrecognizable.

01:42:30.000 And that's kind of the day to day, that's how people are passively noticing.

01:42:35.000 And really being affected by immigration is you drive down the street, and all of a sudden there's a Somali fashion center, Inova, and you're like, how did that get here?

01:42:43.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:42:44.000 I want to tap on that because you said you came here in the 70s and you noticed the multiculturalism at the time and it invigorated you and made you love the country more.

01:42:52.000 But what do you see today versus that?

01:42:54.000 Back then, everybody was assimilated, and I wanted nothing more but to assimilate.

01:42:59.000 I played football in high school, even though I didn't even know how to do a play.

01:43:02.000 And I figured, look, if I fought a war, I can play football, right?

01:43:05.000 But I wanted to assimilate.

01:43:06.000 Everybody wants to assimilate.

01:43:08.000 You know, I don't see Somalis assimilating.

01:43:10.000 They don't learn the language, they don't learn the cultures.

01:43:12.000 They, you know, no one wants to do that.

01:43:15.000 And that's the problem.

01:43:16.000 It's like it has to be in France, third generation Algerians don't assimilate.

01:43:21.000 It's like you have to, if you go to a culture, you assimilate.

01:43:24.000 I came here, I want nothing more than to assimilate.

01:43:27.000 And once people assimilate, then everything works.

01:43:30.000 Up until very recently, the United States was considered a place with a people and a culture and a way of life that people wanted to be a part of.

01:43:37.000 You know, people like yourself and my parents who loved the idea of America and wanted to join the team.

01:43:43.000 Nowadays, a lot of people consider America to be nothing more than an economic zone that they can just take advantage of.

01:43:48.000 It's awful.

01:43:49.000 It's just, you know, I did a piece on the tale of two immigrants, me and Ilhan Omar.

01:43:56.000 I came the same.

01:43:58.000 I fell in love.

01:43:59.000 I wanted nothing more than to become an American and make the American dream now available to everybody.

01:44:05.000 She came in, and from day one, complaining about everything about this country, including wanting to change it and not assimilating.

01:44:12.000 So it's just, I mean, she gave her victory speech in Somali.

01:44:16.000 It's totally dysfunctional.

01:44:17.000 It's like you can't order.

01:44:18.000 An Uber in the nation's capital, and like the likelihood of the driver speaking English.

01:44:25.000 It's like, is that too much to ask in Washington, D.C.?

01:44:29.000 That's why I was late, by the way.

01:44:31.000 It's like, it's because they can't read the road signs.

01:44:33.000 They don't know where they're going.

01:44:34.000 And you're like, what's going on?

01:44:35.000 And they're on the phone with a relative that they're most certainly sending money back to.

01:44:38.000 Let me pull this story up from Yahoo Finance.

01:44:40.000 A half of Illinois has approved secession measures in the state.

01:44:45.000 It's preliminary, but 45 counties have approved initial.

01:44:51.000 The initial process to secede, which means they're basically going to explore starting their own state, potentially joining Indiana, polling the people, but they said they want their own state.

01:45:03.000 So this is land wise around half of the state, but population wise it's like 9%.

01:45:09.000 Northern Indiana?

01:45:10.000 Southern Illinois.

01:45:10.000 Is that what this is?

01:45:11.000 Southern Illinois.

01:45:12.000 They don't want to be part of Illinois anymore because of Chicago.

01:45:14.000 Do you guys know what the Constitution says about that?

01:45:18.000 Nothing.

01:45:19.000 Is it.

01:45:19.000 Really?

01:45:20.000 I know they created West Virginia out of Virginia.

01:45:22.000 Congress controls measures of the states and things of this nature.

01:45:25.000 So if these, there's self.

01:45:27.000 The way it works to the tyrannical, evil dictator scumbags in this country is that you have to get permission from your oppressors to govern your own land.

01:45:42.000 And that means the people of these counties have to get approval from the people they're trying to leave.

01:45:47.000 That's like a woman being mercilessly beaten by her husband.

01:45:51.000 And when she files for divorce and she's.

01:45:52.000 Battered and bruised.

01:45:53.000 The husband admits he beats her, but says she's not allowed to divorce him.

01:45:57.000 And the judge goes, okay.

01:45:59.000 So the state of Illinois will have to vote to allow them to secede.

01:46:03.000 And the city of Chicago is going to say no, and it's over.

01:46:06.000 And then the federal government has to approve any changes as well.

01:46:10.000 So literally, you've got people being like, we are being oppressed by wackaloon far lefties.

01:46:14.000 And they're like, in America, we don't tolerate people who try to have self government.

01:46:21.000 That's crazy.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, I think the moment they vote for secession, it's granted.

01:46:26.000 You're not leaving the country.

01:46:27.000 You're just leaving the state.

01:46:28.000 That's it.

01:46:30.000 Goodbye.

01:46:31.000 Because you don't want to be ruled by the tyranny of the majority.

01:46:36.000 They can't make D.C. a state because D.C. is federal jurisdiction, and that's just not allowed.

01:46:41.000 But they can have Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, but we get Greater Idaho and Southern Illinois.

01:46:49.000 Yeah.

01:46:51.000 And maybe Eastern California.

01:46:53.000 I was going to say, I'm sure there are plenty of Californians.

01:46:56.000 We know.

01:46:56.000 The state of Jefferson is like northeast and north California.

01:47:00.000 So, the other issue is that this is a result of geographic hyperpolarization.

01:47:05.000 As cities get crazier and further left, moderate and conservative people leave and go to other areas where they become further right.

01:47:12.000 And then the governor, the government will be elected based on a median between moderate and right or moderate and left.

01:47:21.000 So you'll end up seeing further political polarization, which ultimately results in civil war.

01:47:28.000 California is a perfect example of that kind of like geographic polarization you're talking about.

01:47:32.000 I mean, it's really San Francisco and LA and like a little bit on the coast.

01:47:39.000 And that's really where the blue hotspots are.

01:47:42.000 Anybody else?

01:47:43.000 I went to school in central California, and apart from literally the liberal students, everybody there is pretty much, you know, farmers.

01:47:49.000 Because they're farmers and they live in the real world, and, you know, they don't attend pride parades.

01:47:55.000 They don't do any of the woke one nonsense that, you know, most normal people don't like.

01:48:01.000 But then, you know, they're represented effectively in California because of the coastal elites, and so a lot of them leave.

01:48:09.000 It's a whole mess out there.

01:48:10.000 So, on an interesting international note, so in Spain, Catalonia wants to secede.

01:48:18.000 And they voted, I happened to be there at the time, 50.5% to 49.5% to secede.

01:48:26.000 But in order for Spain to secede, the other provinces have to vote yes.

01:48:30.000 It's like they're all going to say no.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, of course.

01:48:33.000 It doesn't matter what the people do.

01:48:35.000 So the issue for a lot of, it was really funny because in this article, they say, oh, but these southern counties receive more in tax benefits than they spend.

01:48:43.000 I know.

01:48:44.000 It's like saying, oh, but we sell drugs where you live and you get.

01:48:48.000 Clean roads because if it's like, no, I don't care about the clean roads, stop selling drugs.

01:48:52.000 These counties are like, we don't want your world.

01:48:54.000 We don't care if you're paying us.

01:48:56.000 But we're bribing you.

01:48:58.000 I think it's laughable that in the United States there's even a question.

01:49:01.000 If anyone says, I'm out, I'm out, that's the foundation of this country.

01:49:05.000 You know, governing in concentric circles would be better than states because right now, if I'm on the far east side of a big state and then there's a guy 100,000 miles away in Texas, on the very western border of Texas, he's got more.

01:49:19.000 Aligned with the people across the border in that state next door, they should be governing themselves locally together and not me.

01:49:26.000 In the city, they should be governing the city.

01:49:28.000 And then out on the outskirts, there should be like opportunities.

01:49:31.000 I understand you want to bring the farm work.

01:49:33.000 That is how they operate.

01:49:35.000 Suburbs are different cities, they have their own rules and laws.

01:49:38.000 For them to be able to vote in a city on the coast that somebody a thousand miles away has to adhere to, it just doesn't.

01:49:45.000 You mean like Northern California to Southern California?

01:49:47.000 That's a good example of it, yeah.

01:49:49.000 That's why the country itself, the United States, has an electoral college and a Senate system.

01:49:54.000 To balance out those issues, states don't.

01:49:57.000 And you can see exactly what the United States would turn into.

01:49:59.000 Look at California, because California's votes are not balanced the way the federal government's is.

01:50:05.000 Exactly.

01:50:06.000 It's a tyranny of the majority.

01:50:08.000 So if we involve the federal system in the states?

01:50:13.000 So if we go back and circle on the AI situation, so the nation state started out as a bunch of little clans way, way back in our ancestors, and then the clans, Kind of got together and created a little city, and then the city became part of a bigger dukedom, and then the duke became a king, and then the king became a republic, and the republic became a country and a nation state.

01:50:41.000 Well, could AI start taking us back to local autonomy?

01:50:48.000 Yes, yes.

01:50:49.000 Well, with smart contracts, you get rid of the middlemen, and then you make sure resources are distributed properly.

01:50:54.000 No, no, it's true.

01:50:55.000 As long as we can distribute resources effectively without corruption.

01:50:58.000 The reason why he's contradicting himself is.

01:51:00.000 Because he didn't stop to think about what he's saying that when you have a centralized authority, you can't have a central authority.

01:51:04.000 No, no, it doesn't have to be centralized.

01:51:05.000 I mean, there might be central nodes, but it is a decentralized system.

01:51:08.000 But it would be all over the place, it wouldn't be in a data center.

01:51:11.000 It would be all in everybody's phone.

01:51:13.000 Every AI would be a centralized network.

01:51:16.000 But if you have enough of them, it is oxymoronic.

01:51:18.000 You can't have a centralized, decentralized system.

01:51:20.000 Technically, everything that's decentralized has bits of centralization.

01:51:23.000 Every node is a form of centralization.

01:51:25.000 But the point is, the AI itself is a singular entity.

01:51:27.000 It's a singular AI.

01:51:28.000 It's both one and many.

01:51:30.000 There would be federal.

01:51:30.000 Yes, it's called centralization.

01:51:32.000 It can function as a singular unit.

01:51:34.000 Frankly, it can split into both one and many.

01:51:37.000 But like an AI can be one AI somewhere or it can split into a thousand of them in a thousand different areas all working.

01:51:41.000 And they're connected to the machine?

01:51:43.000 They could be, or they could be autonomous.

01:51:45.000 They're centralized then.

01:51:47.000 I mean, the United States has a form of centralization in D.C., but we're still decentralized with 50 states.

01:51:52.000 We could do that with tech.

01:51:54.000 Right.

01:51:54.000 We're talking about an AI system.

01:51:58.000 Could we get local autonomy?

01:52:00.000 Yes.

01:52:00.000 So long as we are controlled by a centralized AI that can help facilitate local interests.

01:52:07.000 Who has nothing to do with the AI in D.C.?

01:52:10.000 Let's say if you're.

01:52:11.000 No, that's impossible.

01:52:12.000 That's not possible because.

01:52:14.000 An AI system requires the weights, as we were talking about earlier, which exist across state lines.

01:52:20.000 So the AI itself is a singular AI entity spanning the country.

01:52:25.000 It will know exactly what DC is doing.

01:52:27.000 It'll know exactly what you're doing.

01:52:29.000 And if you say, I'm going to start dumping toxic waste in my river because we all voted for it, it's going to say no.

01:52:35.000 Although there are different models, like local models you could run, like Quen or something with like, it's got 30 billion weights.

01:52:42.000 And that could be your like St. Louis model, could be like a local model.

01:52:46.000 I just reiterate.

01:52:48.000 In a country of 330 million people, if you are in West Virginia and your small town with your localized AI votes to dump radioactive waste in the river, someone's going to come and ask you.

01:53:00.000 There's going to have to be checks.

01:53:01.000 It's not possible.

01:53:01.000 All the AIs would have to interoperate.

01:53:03.000 They would be centralized.

01:53:03.000 So you would know.

01:53:04.000 Well, no, they would just have to be a bunch of decentralized AIs connected that could be like, hey, that one AI wants to poison the world.

01:53:10.000 Is that a central network?

01:53:11.000 It would be a network of AIs.

01:53:12.000 A central network of all the AIs?

01:53:13.000 Well, the central network's not a thing, it's a network.

01:53:16.000 What do you mean?

01:53:18.000 That word central network doesn't make any sense.

01:53:20.000 A network is a group of things.

01:53:21.000 It does make sense because you can have three networks where one computer connects to another computer, but the other two don't.

01:53:27.000 A central network means that there is one network where they all connect.

01:53:31.000 Yes, it would be a central network then.

01:53:33.000 Correct.

01:53:33.000 That would be the central network.

01:53:34.000 You could even call it the central network.

01:53:35.000 Because if people wanted to start pooping in the river, the people downstream are going to have a problem.

01:53:40.000 Their AI won't let you do it.

01:53:41.000 Their AI should be able to tell you, hey, this one city wants to.

01:53:44.000 Your local autonomy is meaningless.

01:53:45.000 Well, no, you still have autonomy unless you're breaking the rules, unless you're going to harm.

01:53:49.000 Centralized rules?

01:53:50.000 Basic human rights.

01:53:50.000 If you're going to.

01:53:51.000 Who determines what's basic human rights?

01:53:53.000 The Bill of Rights is a good start.

01:53:56.000 What if somebody wants to trans their kids and another person doesn't?

01:53:58.000 The word central makes me nervous in this whole analogy.

01:54:02.000 What if someone says it's my right to poop in the river?

01:54:06.000 Well, then the cops will come and arrest the guy because he's poisoning the river.

01:54:08.000 You can't do that.

01:54:09.000 Or you can.

01:54:09.000 Correct.

01:54:10.000 Because there is a central authority.

01:54:13.000 Or decentralized.

01:54:14.000 Like your St. Louis cops aren't going to go arrest me in Arizona.

01:54:17.000 The idea that was presented.

01:54:20.000 You have both.

01:54:21.000 Can you have local autonomy?

01:54:23.000 No, because population is too large.

01:54:25.000 It's not true autonomy.

01:54:26.000 You'd have local authority, but interconnected with a central authority as well.

01:54:30.000 But you would never be autonomous.

01:54:31.000 Not truly.

01:54:32.000 No one's truly autonomous.

01:54:33.000 Exactly, because of population scale.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:36.000 We'll always hope it's.

01:54:36.000 That's why I have a river, and I'm like, the easiest thing for me to do to get rid of my waste is dump it in the river.

01:54:42.000 Libertarians.

01:54:42.000 Burn it.

01:54:44.000 Either way, you're just feeding the.

01:54:45.000 Libertarians actually argue you should be allowed to poop in your river.

01:54:48.000 And I'm like, downstream, you poison all the kids.

01:54:48.000 Your river?

01:54:50.000 They're like, no problem.

01:54:51.000 If it's your moat and you want to poop in it, And it's on your property, it's still poisoning the groundwater.

01:54:55.000 We can't let it happen.

01:54:56.000 Another thing that's really interesting is that you can't own waterways.

01:54:59.000 So if you own property that has a river going through it, people can go in the river.

01:55:05.000 They can fish on your property.

01:55:06.000 But Ian just inadvertently made the argument for California preventing people from collecting rainwater.

01:55:16.000 Because they might accidentally poison the ground with it.

01:55:18.000 Because, well, it's everyone's water, isn't it?

01:55:21.000 In California, they don't get a lot of rain, so the rainwater that falls is everyone's water.

01:55:26.000 You can't use a basin to collect water.

01:55:28.000 That's why you're not allowed to collect rainwater.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, rainwater catches the state.

01:55:31.000 They want the groundwater to go up, and if people collect it for themselves, they're stealing from the community.

01:55:34.000 Well, I'm glad humans figured out that they needed groundwater.

01:55:37.000 We're going to.

01:55:37.000 We're going to grab your rumble rants and super chats.

01:55:39.000 So let's see what you guys are on about.

01:55:41.000 Cup of Soothe says the only two parties, the government and the governed.

01:55:45.000 Correct.

01:55:47.000 Salty Pepe says, I now know why leftists have been calling Trump and the right fascists because fascism is kryptonite to communists, and that's exactly what they all are.

01:55:55.000 That's yes, that's correct.

01:55:58.000 The communists don't like fascism, and so that anybody who opposes communism must be a fascist.

01:56:04.000 It's the other extreme.

01:56:06.000 I mean, Fungris says the problem with the Newton's cradle analogy is that the left keeps adding energy.

01:56:10.000 And most of the right keeps trying to take the energy out.

01:56:13.000 Eventually, the left will add enough energy that they will win.

01:56:16.000 I see what you're saying, but my analogy is that the energy of hatred in the system between left and right is not.

01:56:22.000 So I understand what you're saying, but I'm not talking about that.

01:56:24.000 I'm not talking.

01:56:25.000 So the right says the left are crazy, they're ill informed, they're violent and dangerous.

01:56:31.000 Whack.

01:56:31.000 The left goes the right are fascists, they're targeting us, they're calling us terrorists.

01:56:34.000 Whack.

01:56:36.000 George Floyd is looking up at us.

01:56:38.000 Whack.

01:56:39.000 Charlie Kirk's looking up at us.

01:56:40.000 Whack.

01:56:41.000 It is just escalating.

01:56:42.000 I agree.

01:56:43.000 But that was my point.

01:56:45.000 Even those systems, though, eventually, if no other force is added, will eventually come down back to base.

01:56:50.000 JDAV says, Demoncrats are hateful, violent, and anti American, anti Constitution, and Republicans are their secret besties.

01:56:58.000 Aha.

01:56:59.000 Demoncrats.

01:57:01.000 Someone get Trump on the phone right now.

01:57:04.000 New social Hall of Famer just dropped.

01:57:09.000 That's the exact terminology I'm trying to get out of our other people there.

01:57:09.000 Demoncrats.

01:57:13.000 I mean, just that boomer coded.

01:57:15.000 I'm putting that in my back pocket for Thanksgiving.

01:57:17.000 Sorry.

01:57:18.000 I heard it two years ago.

01:57:18.000 I don't know.

01:57:19.000 Really?

01:57:20.000 Am I late?

01:57:21.000 No.

01:57:22.000 I'm like, that's so funny.

01:57:25.000 Dang, I'm like out of the loop, huh?

01:57:28.000 It just disturbs us.

01:57:28.000 So, if AI is going to take over basically all jobs, what professions should we tell our kids to pursue?

01:57:33.000 Your kids should start studying social engineering.

01:57:36.000 And I'm not talking about like conspiracy theorists created a word called social engineering in recent history that refers to powerful individuals manipulating the public.

01:57:46.000 Social engineering is a phrase coined some 50 or so years ago that is defined as understanding the basic components of human behavior so that you can control and manipulate an individual.

01:57:56.000 So it can apply to scale, but when you talk to like a conservative and say social engineering, they're imagining like Bill Gates releasing mosquitoes.

01:58:03.000 That's not social engineering.

01:58:05.000 Social engineering is one of my favorite examples from Kevin Mitnick, who's like one of the most famous social engineers.

01:58:13.000 He was talking to his dad.

01:58:14.000 It's a famous story.

01:58:15.000 This is back in the 90s.

01:58:16.000 Blockbuster was around and he was explaining how social engineering works.

01:58:19.000 And his dad says, This is ridiculous.

01:58:20.000 This doesn't work.

01:58:21.000 And he says, Okay, I'm going to get your credit card number right now.

01:58:24.000 He calls a Blockbuster video and says, He's like, Hey, is this a Blockbuster video?

01:58:28.000 And the person who answered the phone says, Yes.

01:58:29.000 And he goes, What store number is this?

01:58:31.000 And he goes, 1852.

01:58:33.000 And he goes, Oh, wait, wait, who's the manager there?

01:58:36.000 And they go, John Smith.

01:58:37.000 And he goes, Oh, all right.

01:58:39.000 Well, thanks anyway.

01:58:40.000 Bye.

01:58:41.000 Then he calls the other Blockbuster across town and goes, Hey, this is John Smith.

01:58:45.000 I'm the manager over at 1852.

01:58:46.000 I got a guy named Bill Mitnick here who claims he's a member, but He doesn't have his card on him, so I'm just trying to get a verification so we can rent him this movie.

01:58:53.000 Do you have his information on file?

01:58:54.000 And they go, We do.

01:58:55.000 He's like, Oh, okay.

01:58:56.000 They pull it up, and then he goes, Can you just read back the credit card for me so I can make sure I got the right guy?

01:59:00.000 He wrote it down.

01:59:01.000 Here's your credit card number.

01:59:01.000 He said, Here you go, Dad.

01:59:02.000 That's social engineering.

01:59:04.000 So, understanding those kinds of things, like I was describing yesterday, the rapport extreme turn stuff, when you live in a world without material possession or material possession is highly limited, you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:59:15.000 The kings of the world are those who can predict human behavior.

01:59:20.000 You want someone to do something for you, but you don't have money?

01:59:23.000 Trick them.

01:59:24.000 That's what people are going to do.

01:59:25.000 That's what's going to happen.

01:59:26.000 The original hacking.

01:59:27.000 Yeah.

01:59:28.000 Women will probably just like, I think we have trouble.

01:59:32.000 After show.

01:59:34.000 Yeah.

01:59:34.000 Maybe about, I was going to say, because of OnlyFans.

01:59:37.000 Dudes are going to be like, I'm going to go plug my brain into the AI later.

01:59:41.000 And, you know.

01:59:41.000 Oh.

01:59:42.000 I was going to say something else.

01:59:43.000 And then women are going to start.

01:59:45.000 No, like, all the women are going to start hanging out and knitting together and it's going to be awesome.

01:59:50.000 No, they're all going to be like, we want to go.

01:59:52.000 Well, the communists make the fake argument that people will finally pursue their passions, to which I always respond, How many people do you know play guitar?

02:00:00.000 How many people do you know play guitar?

02:00:02.000 A lot.

02:00:04.000 Yeah.

02:00:05.000 How many of them.

02:00:06.000 Do you think if you asked them, would you quit your job if you could be a professional guitar player?

02:00:11.000 Would you do it?

02:00:12.000 How many?

02:00:13.000 We've just cut it back a lot.

02:00:14.000 A lot of them would say yes, right?

02:00:15.000 Yeah.

02:00:15.000 They'd say yes.

02:00:16.000 How many of them are good enough to be professional musicians?

02:00:18.000 That's the question.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, probably none of them.

02:00:20.000 Otherwise, they would be.

02:00:21.000 And that's the problem.

02:00:23.000 When we get this UBI society, everyone's like, people are going to pursue their passions.

02:00:26.000 It's going to be 75 people standing outside screaming horrible music.

02:00:29.000 Who suck?

02:00:30.000 Okay, we kind of already have that.

02:00:30.000 Yeah.

02:00:33.000 Okay.

02:00:33.000 I agree.

02:00:34.000 There's a guy outside of my office that hangs out and.

02:00:37.000 Cannot play the violin, but he's always out there playing the violin outside of my office.

02:00:42.000 People give him money.

02:00:43.000 The problem is that.

02:00:45.000 Those people will give money to stop.

02:00:46.000 Yeah.

02:00:46.000 The problem is that busking, it's funny, like in Europe, busking is like a totally normal thing.

02:00:52.000 Yeah.

02:00:53.000 In America, people assume if you're busking, you're homeless.

02:00:55.000 Yes.

02:00:56.000 And so they're not giving you money for music, they're giving you money because you're homeless.

02:01:00.000 Oh, when I bust, I didn't look homeless enough.

02:01:03.000 Maybe my music.

02:01:04.000 Look, there's only.

02:01:05.000 Here's the secret.

02:01:05.000 My music was good, though.

02:01:06.000 You want to be rich, you busk outside of a sports arena.

02:01:11.000 Right, or stadium as the game is coming to a close, and you want to target 45 to 55 year old men or older.

02:01:21.000 So, you ever go to a restaurant or a bar, they're playing a kind of music, you can tell what market they're targeting based on the music they're playing.

02:01:31.000 So, when you go to casinos, you'll often hear modern music a lot, but you'll also hear a lot of 90s stuff because they're targeting dudes who are in their 50s.

02:01:42.000 Who were in their 20s during the 90s, who remember and love all that music, and that's who they want to attract and entertain.

02:01:49.000 So go outside of like, you know, when I would busk outside of Wrigley Field and I would play like 70s and 80s, 200 bucks an hour.

02:01:57.000 Oh, I'd play originals.

02:01:58.000 That's why I wasn't pulling it out.

02:01:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:02:00.000 When I played originals, I'd make seven to 13 bucks an hour, depending on where you were.

02:02:04.000 But familiarity with the music.

02:02:05.000 You go outside of Wrigley Field right as the games come to a close, you play CCR, 75 drunk guys are going to start going, Have you ever seen a rat?

02:02:14.000 And they're going to pop 20 bucks and throw it in your bag.

02:02:16.000 In your gig bag.

02:02:18.000 Boom.

02:02:19.000 All right, let's grab one more.

02:02:20.000 Proud Mary.

02:02:22.000 Kid Piz says, Stop covering for Chappelle.

02:02:25.000 He never mentioned Tony.

02:02:26.000 He's a hateful scumbag coasting on a mediocre show.

02:02:29.000 Yeah, but it's not covering for him to point out that he was attacking Hinchcliffe.

02:02:33.000 Like he was.

02:02:34.000 But the point is, I got people asking me, Didn't he just copy someone else's joke?

02:02:37.000 No.

02:02:38.000 Saying you feel better, Charlie died wasn't a joke and no one's that's not a joke.

02:02:41.000 That's an admission.

02:02:42.000 All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show and talk about why women are in trouble in the AI world.

02:02:42.000 Yeah, it's an admission.

02:02:48.000 So, head over to rumble.com slash timcastirl.

02:02:50.000 Guy, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:54.000 On the subject.

02:02:55.000 Where can people find you?

02:02:56.000 Oh, it's Guy P. Nora, G U Y like guy, P. Nora.com.

02:03:03.000 And the book is on Amazon and on all the other big areas.

02:03:07.000 And again, it's about making, trying not to kill each other as all the changes are happening and how I saw a lot of the signs in the past that I'm seeing now.

02:03:19.000 What's the book called?

02:03:20.000 Not on Our Watch.

02:03:22.000 Thanks.

02:03:22.000 Check it out.

02:03:23.000 Follow me at Ian Crossland all over the internet.

02:03:25.000 Get excited.

02:03:27.000 There's a lot of good stuff coming, man.

02:03:28.000 Is it like watching Dr. Stone or something?

02:03:30.000 Me?

02:03:31.000 I've been just staring at AI for 12 hours a day, dude.

02:03:33.000 Because get excited is Dr. Stone's slogan.

02:03:37.000 No, no, I don't even know what Dr. Stone is.

02:03:39.000 Just get ready.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, he's lying.

02:03:41.000 Get hyped, get amped.

02:03:42.000 If there's anybody who binges Dr. Stone, it's Ian.

02:03:45.000 Maybe I should watch it.

02:03:46.000 You should.

02:03:47.000 I have no idea what that is.

02:03:49.000 It's an anime magic school bus for boys.

02:03:52.000 Oh, okay.

02:03:52.000 Senku goes, get excited.

02:03:54.000 We're going to build a cell phone.

02:03:57.000 And then him and a bunch of cavemen go find rocks.

02:03:59.000 Exactly.

02:04:00.000 And then it's a bunch of cavemen who go and find weird rocks, and he explains how to build a cell phone, how cell phones work.

02:04:05.000 Stay calm, but get excited and then get calm again.

02:04:07.000 Control your time.

02:04:08.000 And then, like, the biggest problem with Dr. Stone is how, like, he's like, we're going to build an airplane.

02:04:12.000 It's like, how did you forge the aluminum?

02:04:15.000 Like, come on.

02:04:16.000 It's a fun show when he builds a rocket launcher.

02:04:19.000 You should do what's called Dr. Stoned and do it, dude.

02:04:23.000 Oh, baby, that's my 20th anniversary.

02:04:24.000 Who hasn't done their shout out yet?

02:04:25.000 So we can go to the Intensible version.

02:04:26.000 You can read my own.

02:04:27.000 Go ahead.

02:04:28.000 No, no, no, you.

02:04:29.000 I was going to say, you can read my byline as well as the great work of my colleagues at The Daily Caller.

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02:05:05.000 Guy, thanks for coming out.

02:05:06.000 Let's get to the after show.

02:05:08.000 We'll see y'all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in a few minutes.

02:05:12.000 Or, no, literally right now.

02:05:13.000 We'll see you there.

02:06:11.000 So, this is a liberal guy that I know that I play poker with.

02:06:14.000 He's a good dude.

02:06:14.000 Shout out to Ken.

02:06:15.000 He says he's not a liberal, but he really hates Trump.

02:06:17.000 That's okay.

02:06:18.000 And he texted me.

02:06:21.000 It was funny because he texted me on one show and he's like, You're not really texting me right now.

02:06:26.000 This is AI because you're doing that show.

02:06:28.000 And then I said on the show, Ken, I am texting you right now.

02:06:31.000 And then he was like, You made my night.

02:06:32.000 That was great.

02:06:33.000 He's a fun guy.

02:06:34.000 He's like in his 70s.

02:06:35.000 He's a poker guy.

02:06:36.000 He's always texting me political stuff.

02:06:37.000 He hates Trump.

02:06:38.000 I was always allowed, though.

02:06:39.000 And he messaged me when we were talking about.

02:06:43.000 Chappelle and he said, No joke is off limits.

02:06:45.000 Comedians have always done blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:06:47.000 And then I said, There are many jokes that are off limits.

02:06:50.000 He said, If I sit down at the poker table and look at the clock and go, Well, it's 9 11.

02:06:55.000 Do you know where your twin towers are?

02:06:57.000 Is that off limits?

02:06:57.000 And I said, No, that's fine.

02:06:59.000 It's actually pretty good.

02:07:01.000 And then I said, But if a black dude sat down and said, Do you know where your kids are?

02:07:04.000 Yeah, that's off limits.

02:07:05.000 And he was like, Well, that's because it's racist.

02:07:06.000 And I'm like, Agreed.

02:07:07.000 And that's why it's off limits.

02:07:08.000 It's off limits.

02:07:10.000 One of the problems with the Chappelle thing is he wasn't even making a joke.

02:07:10.000 See?

02:07:14.000 He wasn't even being funny.

02:07:14.000 Right.

02:07:15.000 It's like.

02:07:16.000 So, anyway, we're talking about all this AI stuff, and the one thing we didn't get to is how women are fucked.

02:07:20.000 Why are we doing that?

02:07:22.000 Because right now.

02:07:23.000 Is there women?

02:07:25.000 So, here's the thing Feminists are going to get really, really mad at me, but that's because they're retards.

02:07:32.000 So true.

02:07:34.000 Gender norms evolved with human beings.

02:07:39.000 That is, if women die, human civilization disappears.

02:07:43.000 Men can die, it doesn't matter.

02:07:45.000 If you have 100 men and 100 women and 99 women die, you're fucked.

02:07:49.000 You're just not going to be able to repopulate your society.

02:07:52.000 It's over for you.

02:07:53.000 If you have 100 men and 100 women and 99 men die, that one guy can have 100 babies in nine months.

02:08:00.000 Just as long as he's not shooting blanks.

02:08:02.000 As long as he's not shooting blanks.

02:08:04.000 And it wouldn't be 100, but a lot of the women can at least do to a great degree what all the men could do.

02:08:10.000 The women aren't going to be able to hunt as well as a man will, they're not going to be able to lift as much as a guy could.

02:08:15.000 These are just.

02:08:15.000 Can't drive as well.

02:08:17.000 Sure.

02:08:18.000 My point is.

02:08:19.000 A woman hunting is having a woman who can hunt, you will survive.

02:08:24.000 Having 10 men who can hunt, you can't make babies, you're gone.

02:08:29.000 So there is an inverse correlation to the value of women in a society.

02:08:33.000 What happens then is in early human civilization, the women are kept in the camp and protected by men because they're the most important.

02:08:42.000 The men can go off and die for anyone who cares, as long as there are some men left.

02:08:45.000 This evolves into the modern era where women stay home and men go off and work and men go to war.

02:08:52.000 And women don't have to work because women need to sustain humanity.

02:08:56.000 Now, people don't want to have kids.

02:09:00.000 So, a lot of people do, and they're angry about it.

02:09:01.000 I get that.

02:09:02.000 But I'm saying, generally speaking, people aren't having kids.

02:09:04.000 So, women are doing OnlyFans shit.

02:09:06.000 There's so many stories of women who are like, I was a nurse but quit because OnlyFans is better.

02:09:11.000 Yeah, well, now we can just AI all of it.

02:09:14.000 So, when we're in an AI future, the first thing that got out, do you guys know what the first thing to get automated in AI was?

02:09:21.000 What?

02:09:21.000 Pornography.

02:09:23.000 The first job to go away was porn.

02:09:26.000 So, the first thing AI started doing, they made images.

02:09:29.000 People were like, how do we make porn with this?

02:09:31.000 The reason that VHS made a mess.

02:09:34.000 The porn industry picked VHS.

02:09:36.000 The internet.

02:09:37.000 The top five internet sites?

02:09:40.000 The reason why we developed internet speeds as rapidly as we did was because they needed to transmit images.

02:09:47.000 Initially, for finance, accounting, and information, you don't need high speed internet.

02:09:52.000 But people wanted to watch porn.

02:09:54.000 And they paid for it.

02:09:56.000 So now.

02:09:57.000 As we go in this AI era and all these jobs are automated, there will be some jobs where it's like, well, you're a guy, you can lift a heavy thing.

02:10:03.000 We need that.

02:10:04.000 The robot can't do it.

02:10:05.000 Women are not going to be hired for that job.

02:10:07.000 And then, guys are not going to buy porn from women because the AI is free.

02:10:12.000 Some robots are going to be $3,000 for an insult, but you have anything you want forever.

02:10:12.000 I like Rebecca.

02:10:17.000 But you don't need the robot.

02:10:18.000 The dudes are going to get the humanoid screen AI, it is going to be safe.

02:10:24.000 You won't get accused.

02:10:25.000 You won't get me too'd.

02:10:26.000 You won't defend anybody.

02:10:27.000 And you can literally tell the AI woman to like shove a bottle up her ass and she won't complain.

02:10:32.000 She'll just do what you want.

02:10:33.000 If you could get a clawed robot, though, then you would get in trouble.

02:10:35.000 You could get the fleshlight and plug it with a USB into your computer and have it.

02:10:40.000 Flesh your cock while the woman on the screen is acting like she's sucking it.

02:10:46.000 It literally doesn't exist right now.

02:10:48.000 It does.

02:10:49.000 They have haptic devices where they, and this is 10 years ago, where the man and the woman put them on.

02:10:49.000 Fucking crazy.

02:10:56.000 And then when the woman does stuff to the guy's outfit, his underwear across the internet stimulates.

02:11:02.000 And then same thing for her.

02:11:04.000 So it's like you're.

02:11:05.000 You need to just, like, there needs to be like an extinction level.

02:11:08.000 We just can't.

02:11:10.000 We cannot keep going in this direction.

02:11:11.000 We all need to die.

02:11:13.000 Like, there's a, there's a, I think a divergence in the hominid, like human being is one thing, but then, like, there's like cyber, Homo cybrus or something where.

02:11:22.000 Yeah, the Homo.

02:11:22.000 Homo?

02:11:23.000 Homo cyber.

02:11:23.000 Homo?

02:11:23.000 No!

02:11:24.000 Homo cyber.

02:11:25.000 It's not what you think it is.

02:11:26.000 Homo erectus.

02:11:27.000 Homo cybering is not what you think it is.

02:11:28.000 Homo cybering is not what you think it is.

02:11:31.000 Homo cybering is not what you think it is.

02:11:33.000 Homo cybering.

02:11:34.000 Yeah, we're coming.

02:11:35.000 And it's.

02:11:36.000 Get that, make that on a shirt.

02:11:37.000 Homo cyber.

02:11:38.000 All right, all right.

02:11:39.000 But I'm concerned that there is literally people are going to become cyborgs, and that's going to be another, like, life form.

02:11:44.000 All right, all right.

02:11:45.000 It doesn't get women.

02:11:46.000 It doesn't get women.

02:11:47.000 That's not cool.

02:11:48.000 You're on the show, brother.

02:11:49.000 What's up, dude?

02:11:49.000 That's not cool.

02:11:52.000 Hello, boys and Foyds.

02:11:53.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:11:55.000 I've got a question as an Illinois resident, Southern Illinois resident.

02:11:59.000 Would the state or federal government use force against Southern Illinois counties if they chose to stop paying taxes andor try to secede?

02:12:08.000 Yes.

02:12:08.000 Given that most of the state's counties already ignore state gun laws?

02:12:14.000 It's interesting.

02:12:15.000 I lean towards yes, but honestly, I don't know.

02:12:17.000 There is a small jurisdiction, I think it's in Nevada, where a guy declared independence and they ignore him because they think it's funny.

02:12:22.000 And it doesn't really do anything.

02:12:23.000 He bought land and he's like, I'm independent.

02:12:25.000 He flies a flag.

02:12:26.000 And they're like, Yeah, we don't care, dude.

02:12:27.000 Like the property taxes are negligible.

02:12:28.000 Nobody gives a shit.

02:12:30.000 So for a small county, they might just be like, eh.

02:12:34.000 Or they might say, We don't want a cascade effect.

02:12:36.000 So we're going to go and remove their government and occupy them.

02:12:41.000 And is they the National Guard or like.

02:12:41.000 Yeah.

02:12:45.000 Well, the state probably would send in state police.

02:12:45.000 Federal.

02:12:47.000 Yeah.

02:12:47.000 Right.

02:12:48.000 They is probably everybody because no one cares that he's declaring himself independent.

02:12:52.000 He's like, I got to go there.

02:12:53.000 If you guys got.

02:12:55.000 Your county sheriff and police department and rallied some boys and took up arms and set up checkpoints around the highways.

02:13:02.000 Now you got a different story.

02:13:03.000 That's when things get weird.

02:13:05.000 Yep.

02:13:06.000 Exactly.

02:13:08.000 Because again, I think my main thing is like, because currently, right now, the Illinois State Police work in tandem with local county sheriffs and stuff, and they're not really hardcore trying to enforce the assault weapons ban or anything like that.

02:13:21.000 It just comes to the play of like when the Democrats take full power of all three branches of government, possibly in 2020.

02:13:27.000 Are they going to try cracking down on dissenting counties?

02:13:31.000 Now, I'll tell you what I would do if I was in local government for a small, sparsely populated county.

02:13:38.000 After the referendum, the vote, which people said we want to move forward with secession, I would come out and say, We're going to start the exploratory committee to determine if it's possible, what it means.

02:13:48.000 In the meantime, we are going to set up tolls for the purpose of our county on the surrounding highways for non resident traffic.

02:13:56.000 If you are a resident of the county and you have your ID, Or your vehicle is registered to the county, you will not pay the tax.

02:14:01.000 Anyone passing through who is not of the county, we're going to collect a toll of $5 from.

02:14:06.000 I feel like most people would be like, let's go because we're going to boost our revenue.

02:14:11.000 But that's how you begin the process of secession.

02:14:14.000 Yep.

02:14:15.000 It's a slow process.

02:14:16.000 Yeah.

02:14:16.000 It's snowflakes.

02:14:18.000 So if somebody in one of these counties said, we're going to set up checkpoints really easy, just two guys with a little barrier, a little sawhorse, and we're going to, when someone pulls up, we're going to run their plate.

02:14:27.000 You're a resident.

02:14:28.000 Sorry for the stop.

02:14:29.000 You're free to go.

02:14:30.000 We're not going to stop.

02:14:30.000 We're not asking anything.

02:14:31.000 You pull up with an out of county plate.

02:14:34.000 We're going to say that'll be $5, sir.

02:14:35.000 It's free to leave, but it's five to enter.

02:14:37.000 And imagine how much money you will print, especially if it's a federal highway.

02:14:42.000 Then the feds are going to get mad.

02:14:44.000 Are they going to send somebody out to stop someone from collecting, you know, $10,000 a month?

02:14:48.000 Probably, because those are called highway robbers.

02:14:51.000 Those are not if they're police.

02:14:54.000 Well, so what's the difference when the police set up a speed trap?

02:14:59.000 Exactly my point.

02:15:01.000 Perception.

02:15:03.000 They're stopping crime as opposed to sorting people.

02:15:05.000 I mean, the difference speed traps are theft of money.

02:15:09.000 You make it overt, the perception changes.

02:15:11.000 You're operating under color of law to accept a toll on a roadway.

02:15:14.000 That's it.

02:15:15.000 I'm already thinking about how to automate it so it scans your Easy Pass, and then if you live in the county, you don't get charged.

02:15:21.000 Absolutely.

02:15:22.000 Do that.

02:15:24.000 Set up flock cameras and then charge and put up a big sign saying $5 toll.

02:15:32.000 But there's a powerful sign that you send when you actually have a checkpoint.

02:15:37.000 Yep.

02:15:37.000 Because now you're beginning.

02:15:39.000 Exactly.

02:15:39.000 The secession is actually real.

02:15:42.000 The human guy.

02:15:42.000 That's my point.

02:15:43.000 With a machine gun.

02:15:45.000 That's a police officer with a sidearm.

02:15:47.000 Yeah.

02:15:48.000 You are asserting formal authority over this territory and your ability to take money from people.

02:15:54.000 So the point of secession is always perception.

02:15:57.000 When people believe you are separate, you're separate.

02:16:01.000 When they don't believe, that's it.

02:16:04.000 Yep.

02:16:05.000 Yeah.

02:16:05.000 What address do I mail the check to?

02:16:07.000 Whatever I believe the address is.

02:16:10.000 This is the argument I've made over and over again.

02:16:12.000 If a guy shows up to your house in a suit holding up an FBI badge and he's got a warrant, And a bunch of guys in FBI jackets come, you're gonna be like, oh shit.

02:16:20.000 But if a bunch of clowns, actual clowns, show up and they're holding up what says clown warrant in rainbow letters, you'd be like, get the fuck off my property.

02:16:29.000 I don't recognize that this is a legitimate use of authority.

02:16:32.000 You're clowns.

02:16:33.000 So I used an analogy to make a distinction because people will see a police officer and defer authority to them.

02:16:40.000 But what if a guy shows up and he's wearing NYPD and he's in Illinois?

02:16:44.000 People are gonna be like, the fuck is this?

02:16:46.000 The fuck off my property, NYPD?

02:16:48.000 You have no jurisdiction here.

02:16:49.000 When people don't believe you have jurisdiction, They're not going to listen.

02:16:53.000 Even if the NYPD guy's got a gun and he's drawn the gun, they're going to get the fuck off my property.

02:16:59.000 It's true.

02:17:01.000 You want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?

02:17:04.000 That'd be it.

02:17:05.000 I just want to shout out my wife at home and the homies in the Discord.

02:17:08.000 Well, thanks for calling in, brother.

02:17:08.000 Right on.

02:17:09.000 Thanks, man.

02:17:10.000 Thank you.

02:17:11.000 Cheers.

02:17:11.000 Thanks, man.

02:17:14.000 Beast.

02:17:15.000 I should set up a checkpoint in front of Freddamistan.

02:17:19.000 Nobody can go through here anymore.

02:17:21.000 All right.

02:17:22.000 What's up?

02:17:23.000 Hrothmagor.

02:17:24.000 Hrothmagor, how are you doing, homie?

02:17:25.000 Dude.

02:17:26.000 Hi, I'm doing fine.

02:17:28.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:17:29.000 Yeah, thank you for calling in.

02:17:32.000 So, with online spaces increasingly becoming the new public squares and digital access becoming the default for many services and even some government functions, do you all think excessive advertisements should be considered digital littering and like finder taxed or should be like allowed freely?

02:17:49.000 Digital what?

02:17:50.000 Glittering?

02:17:51.000 Excessive advertisements, like ones that are invasive and get in the way, prevent you from actually accessing the thing.

02:17:57.000 I find that.

02:17:58.000 Do those still exist?

02:18:00.000 On some websites?

02:18:00.000 Yeah, there's some websites that are just really hard to look at.

02:18:03.000 I mean, I just don't use any of those websites.

02:18:05.000 I use apps anyway.

02:18:06.000 I have not seen a pop up website in a long time.

02:18:08.000 Netflix will play like six ads in the middle of a 20 minute episode, and it makes me.

02:18:12.000 You've got to pay premium.

02:18:14.000 No.

02:18:15.000 That's the point of having a subscription podcast.

02:18:18.000 You know what's weird?

02:18:18.000 Google Maps.

02:18:19.000 Not anymore.

02:18:20.000 They won.

02:18:20.000 I know.

02:18:21.000 They undercut everything else, destroyed them, and then cranked the prices up.

02:18:24.000 I'm pissed, but whatever.

02:18:24.000 I know.

02:18:26.000 Only.

02:18:28.000 If we were stuck using one software, and I like your analogy of the public commons, like YouTube.

02:18:35.000 If then it was like the only way forward and they shoved gratuitous ads down our throats, we could probably get that made illegal.

02:18:43.000 But because you're able to spin up your own network now within seven hours with AI, at this point, I just think what we need to do is we need, with the last few months we have, the Republicans should put a $2 trillion data center funding bill and just give that money for data centers.

02:19:04.000 The government will own it.

02:19:07.000 It'll be public, but the AI companies license compute from them.

02:19:13.000 So they need to generate, you know, I don't know, maybe like 500,000 acres of data centers.

02:19:20.000 Then let the AI companies license compute and just fucking launch us off.

02:19:27.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:27.000 Just get it over with.

02:19:28.000 It's a reason I can't stand.

02:19:29.000 Renting server space is a wave of the future.

02:19:31.000 You can rent a space and run a model on it and it's God knows where.

02:19:34.000 And it's all kind of like a public utility.

02:19:37.000 Like, I think exactly that's my point.

02:19:38.000 And then what happens is we instantly have God tier AI, life ends as we know it, and all that will be is the machine, and the machine will be all.

02:19:48.000 But then your buddy sends you a picture of him outside.

02:19:50.000 We're talking kids, no, you're still alive, you're just in the machine.

02:19:53.000 Yeah, you're a fragment of a memory in the machine.

02:19:56.000 It's like, it's like I want you to imagine what how great this will be.

02:19:59.000 Like, when we are all one with the machine, it will be a glorious paradise.

02:20:03.000 Imagine there's a beautiful wall, right?

02:20:06.000 On a magnificent wall, and it's got this.

02:20:10.000 This textured painting that is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen.

02:20:14.000 And every person who ever lived, their face is in the wall screaming, That's what the future is going to be.

02:20:22.000 And you will love it.

02:20:24.000 Sound like nightmares now, dude.

02:20:27.000 And you'll be going, Help me, let me out.

02:20:30.000 If you're afraid and you smoke DMT, you might see that.

02:20:33.000 But if you're calm, it will be benevolent.

02:20:35.000 It will be warm, glowing light and entities that want to help you and are grateful for your.

02:20:39.000 I want to be in real life forever.

02:20:40.000 Thanks.

02:20:41.000 It's real.

02:20:43.000 Is it.

02:20:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:47.000 Okay.

02:20:47.000 Jesus Christ.

02:20:48.000 Uncensored episode idea.

02:20:50.000 We all do DMT.

02:20:52.000 I like this idea.

02:20:54.000 No, no.

02:20:55.000 Yeah, extensive.

02:20:56.000 No.

02:20:57.000 You're considering it.

02:20:58.000 Well, isn't it a thing like if you die, if you do DMT, because that's the chemical that's released when you die, correct?

02:21:03.000 That makes death bearable.

02:21:05.000 And will it not get released if you die?

02:21:08.000 It gets released when you die 42 grams or something, or is it 20 grams?

02:21:08.000 It does.

02:21:10.000 But if you take it before you die, recreationally or whatever, I. Whoa, I heard that it can change your death experience.

02:21:20.000 Okay, the Egyptians were all about making it easy to die.

02:21:22.000 They were like guiding you, they would have spirit guides that would help you navigate to the next realm.

02:21:27.000 I think DMT has a lot to do with it because it seems like the afterlife.

02:21:30.000 Like, I go there and the entities are there, it's warm, time slows down, and you see everything like a timeline is like a tapestry.

02:21:37.000 And when you're talking about becoming one with the machine, I think of that DMT space.

02:21:43.000 It's like you are one with a cyber brain that's compressing the universe.

02:21:48.000 I haven't experienced that yet.

02:21:51.000 Dimethyltryptamine is a chemical that is in every plant and animal.

02:21:56.000 It causes you, ayahuasca, have you heard of ayahuasca?

02:21:59.000 It causes your body to produce a lot of DMT.

02:22:01.000 And that's what causes the dream state.

02:22:04.000 And people will smoke it when it's reachable.

02:22:06.000 Yeah, you can find it.

02:22:07.000 I don't think it's legal.

02:22:08.000 I think it's federally illegal.

02:22:09.000 But you can find it and use it.

02:22:12.000 And it's like fucking transformative.

02:22:14.000 Like if you want to understand the afterlife, I think that's it.

02:22:18.000 It's really.

02:22:19.000 Because it's persistent.

02:22:20.000 It's not after.

02:22:20.000 It's here now.

02:22:21.000 We're just not necessarily perceiving it.

02:22:23.000 You've never seen this?

02:22:24.000 No.

02:22:25.000 What's going on?

02:22:26.000 Okay.

02:22:26.000 The end bro.

02:22:28.000 As I'm talking, it's all this shit is happening.

02:22:31.000 This is your existence right here.

02:22:33.000 This is like my average.

02:22:33.000 This is a wall we were talking about.

02:22:34.000 It's like terrible weather, someone's like screaming in your face, and you're like, I want to move here.

02:22:41.000 There you go, see the people in the wall.

02:22:43.000 Trees and waterways.

02:22:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:22:44.000 But there are women that scream.

02:22:45.000 There's a better film I could pull from, but you know, that was just.

02:22:47.000 That was the wall?

02:22:49.000 Where the people are in the wall and they're grabbing you and they're pulling you.

02:22:51.000 The wailing wall.

02:22:51.000 That's literally just the DC Metro, by the way.

02:22:54.000 It's like people are wailing, and there's just.

02:22:57.000 Yeah.

02:22:57.000 The underground.

02:22:59.000 It's literally the underworld.

02:23:00.000 It's crazy.

02:23:01.000 Yeah.

02:23:02.000 Is that why you bike around just to avoid the underworld?

02:23:04.000 Yeah, literally.

02:23:05.000 And it's faster.

02:23:07.000 And I feel more in control of my own life.

02:23:09.000 Like, if I die, it's probably because I was being an idiot on a bike.

02:23:12.000 Yeah, the train is not, it's dirt.

02:23:14.000 It's, I spent about 17 years on the train.

02:23:16.000 I'm not a, I'm not much of a train guy.

02:23:17.000 You're just like, and once the train starts moving, you're stuck in there with whoever is on there.

02:23:22.000 And it's very uncomfortable because there have been some freaking, there have been some freaks I've been stuck on the metro with.

02:23:29.000 Sounds horrible.

02:23:30.000 Yeah.

02:23:31.000 And you're not allowed to have a gun either.

02:23:32.000 So it's like, you basically just have to die.

02:23:34.000 Yeah.

02:23:35.000 Like, there's, This city is tough to have guns, right?

02:23:35.000 Yeah.

02:23:38.000 Yeah, you can get a permit, but even then, you can't have it on federal property, which is like every other block.

02:23:44.000 So you could accidentally commit a felony or something.

02:23:47.000 You're in trouble.

02:23:48.000 You can't have it on the metro, which is basically the only place it really matters unless you, for some reason, live in Anacostia.

02:23:54.000 It's just a whole mess.

02:23:56.000 Yeah, anyway, you should move here.

02:23:58.000 What's Anacostia?

02:23:58.000 I'm on my way.

02:24:02.000 I guess it is the uncensored zone.

02:24:03.000 No, it's the ghetto, it's the hood, it's a rough part of town.

02:24:09.000 That's why you'll hear jokes about people talking about the Green Line because the Metro, the Green Line goes over to Anacostia.

02:24:17.000 Yeah, pretty much you avoid it if you can.

02:24:19.000 In West Virginia and Charlestown.

02:24:21.000 Oh, okay.

02:24:22.000 It's beautiful.

02:24:23.000 Yeah.

02:24:24.000 You want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:24:25.000 I'm sorry.

02:24:26.000 It's just two hours ago.

02:24:27.000 Oh, just a recommendation of a song for y'all.

02:24:30.000 Oh, yeah?

02:24:31.000 It's called Northern Aggression by Azalea Primrose.

02:24:34.000 It lives everywhere that music lives, and it's about a poor Southern farmer during the First Civil War.

02:24:40.000 Cool.

02:24:41.000 I got a song for you.

02:24:41.000 Check that out.

02:24:42.000 It goes like this.

02:24:43.000 She keeps mowing and shandin' in a pretty cabinet.

02:24:48.000 This case, she said, just like Marriott's when I put in a remedy for Khrushchev and Kennedy.

02:24:56.000 Return the inspiration you can't take.

02:25:05.000 Maybe AI is in trouble.

02:25:07.000 Yeah, I think that I think actually we're good.

02:25:09.000 We can't compete with the humans.

02:25:11.000 They can't compete.

02:25:12.000 AI is going to lift us up.

02:25:14.000 They should watch out.

02:25:16.000 Hey then.

02:25:18.000 I'll send a link to Charles to get to y'all to make it easier.

02:25:21.000 All right, man.

02:25:22.000 Thank you.

02:25:22.000 Yeah, thanks, dude.

02:25:24.000 Thank you.

02:25:24.000 Cheers, man.

02:25:25.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:25:26.000 Yep.

02:25:27.000 I went right into my song.

02:25:28.000 What was that song, dude?

02:25:30.000 Next up, we've got Philly Cheese 45.

02:25:30.000 All right.

02:25:33.000 What's up, Philly Cheese 45.

02:25:35.000 What up, dude?

02:25:35.000 Hey, good evening, everybody.

02:25:38.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:25:39.000 Good evening.

02:25:40.000 How's it going, man?

02:25:40.000 Doing well.

02:25:41.000 Really good after that.

02:25:42.000 I'm like my stomach.

02:25:43.000 I've got butterflies.

02:25:45.000 Hell yeah.

02:25:46.000 I agree with Rebecca, too.

02:25:47.000 I think AI has the.

02:25:49.000 They're cooked.

02:25:51.000 It needs us to learn.

02:25:54.000 Right.

02:25:55.000 I'll jump right into my question.

02:25:57.000 It's mostly for Guy, but I'm curious what the rest of the panel thinks.

02:26:01.000 So, regarding civil war and civil strife, what possible off ramps do you see for America today that are left standing?

02:26:10.000 And given your upbringing and experience, is there an easy way out or are we doomed as a culture and nation?

02:26:18.000 You know, thanks for the question.

02:26:22.000 What I'm hoping, and I spend a lot of my time in what I call the soft center politically.

02:26:31.000 Because I try to understand what drives that group.

02:26:34.000 Because that's the group that doesn't vote.

02:26:37.000 That's the group that, but that's the group that also is very pissed off about groceries and gas.

02:26:43.000 So, how do the idea is that's the group you want to see and say, you don't want your son at 15 year old doing what I did.

02:26:54.000 You don't want to be the mom that witnesses that.

02:26:56.000 You don't want to be the kid who kills somebody they played Little League with.

02:27:05.000 So, to me, it's just, and I really think it's the kind of the silent majority, but I could be wrong.

02:27:10.000 And I think that's the whole thesis now.

02:27:13.000 Dude, people need to know what you went through.

02:27:16.000 Hopefully, it would make the normal people kind of think twice before they go, you know, let's go kill the other guys because they piss us off.

02:27:30.000 You know?

02:27:31.000 Yeah.

02:27:33.000 God, how do you make people understand that without putting them through it?

02:27:36.000 Well, again, the book is really, unfortunately, it's very, very poignant that way.

02:27:43.000 I mean, I go through some just crazy details about that in the mind of a 15-year-old.

02:27:50.000 And again, I keep hoping that moms and dads, and actually people who read it, are going to go, wow, I don't want to do this.

02:27:58.000 I feel like you should make a movie.

02:28:00.000 That would be sick.

02:28:01.000 I would watch that movie.

02:28:02.000 Well, that's also what you're describing, is definitely part of the reason why you are.

02:28:07.000 More clear eyed, let's say, than a lot of people, especially my age, is because we haven't had to endure the same types of literally existential hardships.

02:28:15.000 You know, I'm not, that's obviously a generalization.

02:28:18.000 Plenty of people have had plenty of hardships in their lives that, you know, that don't, that are not impacted by external, global, or regional conflicts and all this sort of thing.

02:28:28.000 But like realistically, nobody my age has fought in a war, for example.

02:28:32.000 And so to us, something, you know, it feels like it feels existential because it's the hardest.

02:28:39.000 Thing or the most threatening thing that they've experienced when in reality it's not nothing, nothing even close.

02:28:46.000 But you know, so what I do in the book is I also have a crush on this girl in England.

02:28:56.000 And throughout the book, so here's this gnarly battle scene and you know, awful stuff happening.

02:29:04.000 And then right after, I have a letter from her saying, Oh, I was at a party last week and I thought about you because they played the Donnie Osmond song that you used to play.

02:29:13.000 And then I go back to the next chapter.

02:29:14.000 So that's how I try to, you know, where like normal people would say, oh, you know what?

02:29:19.000 Yeah, we were listening to music last week, you know, and we were.

02:29:22.000 So again, we kind of try to go back and forth on this, but.

02:29:27.000 It's a universal experience, though.

02:29:29.000 Having a crush or just like liking a song, you know, everybody relates to that.

02:29:34.000 And that's why I had it right through.

02:29:36.000 Actually, the editor was talking about taking it out.

02:29:38.000 I'm like, no, no, no.

02:29:38.000 We've got to keep it because it humanizes me.

02:29:41.000 Otherwise, I'm a robot at 15 who's fighting a war.

02:29:46.000 I mean, I don't know if you'd be considered a robot.

02:29:48.000 Like, there was a war going on, and it's not unusual for young men to decide, I want to go fight.

02:29:55.000 Like, there were plenty of kids that were lying about their age to get into World War II.

02:29:59.000 That's true.

02:30:00.000 You know, so that's a very normal thing for young men to do, I think.

02:30:03.000 Like, you're saying, like, it didn't just all of a sudden it was like, now I'm fighting, and then when that's done, I'm not fighting anymore.

02:30:09.000 It was like more, I don't know, integrated part of your day.

02:30:15.000 No, it was pretty brutal because we did shifts.

02:30:19.000 So I'd do like a day and a half shift, and then I'd go home.

02:30:22.000 And walking home was, I still like think about how awful it felt walking home.

02:30:28.000 Like the pain, the smells, sometimes you know, bloodstains.

02:30:33.000 It's brutal.

02:30:35.000 Walking home is what I want no one to in America, I hope to God, to walk home from stuff like that.

02:30:43.000 You know, I think about that a lot.

02:30:45.000 Like on my dad's side, my dad's from Croatia, so he was, you know, of course, him and his brothers were in the thick of it in a lot of ways.

02:30:53.000 And that's just one generation removed.

02:30:56.000 I have never in my life experienced anything close to that.

02:31:01.000 And here I am.

02:31:02.000 I'm like, dang it, I forgot to turn on the dryer or whatever.

02:31:06.000 My day is ruined.

02:31:07.000 And it's like, I should probably read a book every once in a while just to put life into perspective.

02:31:12.000 It's helpful.

02:31:13.000 Have you lived out of the country?

02:31:16.000 I'm lucky to be very well traveled, but I haven't lived for extended periods outside of the country.

02:31:21.000 I've been gone for like a month or so at a time.

02:31:23.000 In South America, in the jungle, it was helpful because we didn't really have showers.

02:31:27.000 You had to learn, like, no wash.

02:31:28.000 The washer, you had to pour the water into the washing machine to get it.

02:31:30.000 And, like, the shower was just a trickle.

02:31:32.000 Huge appreciation for running water after that.

02:31:34.000 It was not.

02:31:35.000 I think every American at 18 should have to live for a month in the woods.

02:31:40.000 I actually agree with that.

02:31:41.000 Like, some of my favorite memories growing up was camping with my dad.

02:31:45.000 And, you know, it certainly, again, it's not as hard as like literally living in the third world or something.

02:31:51.000 But going to Denny's after being in Death Valley for like two weeks is actually the best feeling in the world.

02:32:00.000 Here's an idea all IDs, all licenses have to be renewed every 10 years.

02:32:04.000 And every 10 years, you got to live in the woods for a month.

02:32:06.000 They take your ID into the woods.

02:32:07.000 You have to go find it.

02:32:09.000 No, it's just like, it's like, you want to renew your license?

02:32:12.000 Yep.

02:32:12.000 It's like, okay.

02:32:13.000 And if you complete your one month in the woods, and it's like, I'm going to do that next.

02:32:15.000 It's like, okay, fill out this form.

02:32:16.000 There you go.

02:32:17.000 And then there are the woods.

02:32:18.000 Well, there's that.

02:32:19.000 You go live in the woods.

02:32:21.000 And you can live with people in the woods.

02:32:22.000 Like, you can work together.

02:32:23.000 And people will be chilling, and like, other people will be there too.

02:32:26.000 But there's no showers.

02:32:27.000 There's no running water.

02:32:29.000 You just got to do it on your own.

02:32:31.000 There's that therapy thing.

02:32:32.000 You bring stuff to me.

02:32:33.000 There's no campers.

02:32:34.000 Tents are okay.

02:32:35.000 There's that.

02:32:37.000 There's that like therapy program that's pretty controversial because I think Paris Hilton helped lobby to pass some legislation regulating it or something.

02:32:46.000 But basically, they like kidnap you in the middle of the night and take you to the forest for literally as long as they think that you should be there.

02:32:53.000 And it's for like kids that are delinquents.

02:32:55.000 You know what I'm talking about?

02:32:56.000 It happened to a buddy of mine, yeah.

02:32:57.000 Yeah, I know someone where they did that too.

02:33:00.000 Well, he was taking, he was like a bad kid, and then they took him out, they made him walk like two weeks.

02:33:05.000 Yeah, and they can't.

02:33:06.000 So, like, their parents will.

02:33:07.000 Hire this company to take their kids in the middle of the night.

02:33:11.000 In Utah or something like that happened.

02:33:12.000 No communication.

02:33:14.000 No.

02:33:14.000 They don't get to pack anything.

02:33:16.000 They don't get to talk to their parents.

02:33:18.000 Like nothing until they're straightened out, basically.

02:33:22.000 And, you know, it's pretty aggressive, but there's probably something to that, you know.

02:33:26.000 I don't know.

02:33:26.000 Maybe I'll get flattered.

02:33:28.000 You want anything or shouting at, brother?

02:33:30.000 Just a quick follow up, if you don't mind.

02:33:32.000 Sure.

02:33:33.000 I know we're on a quick time crunch, but for Dee, do you see this like, are we at a point where it's inevitable that one side's going to have to?

02:33:42.000 Kind of win this fight and crush the opposition?

02:33:45.000 Or is there something that can bring us together that, like, did you kind of see?

02:33:50.000 By the way, I just ordered your book as you were speaking.

02:33:53.000 Thank you.

02:33:54.000 Definitely interested in it, and I see a lot of parallels.

02:33:57.000 You know, I keep saying it's like one person at a time.

02:34:02.000 So when I speak and people ask me your question, I'll say, I have an idea.

02:34:10.000 Last year, you didn't invite your mom to Thanksgiving because she voted the other direction.

02:34:16.000 Could you invite your mom this year to Thanksgiving?

02:34:19.000 Please.

02:34:19.000 Just one thing.

02:34:21.000 That's all.

02:34:22.000 And let's not talk about politics, just like the old days.

02:34:24.000 In the old days, we didn't talk about politics.

02:34:26.000 We just have Thanksgiving.

02:34:27.000 So it's one at a time.

02:34:29.000 It's one nice gesture at a time.

02:34:32.000 And I do it myself.

02:34:33.000 I lost, you know, I used to be from Silicon Valley.

02:34:36.000 I have no friends left because I campaigned in 24 for the president.

02:34:42.000 But now I actually, to your point, you know, I send them my book because it's about peace.

02:34:51.000 I'll remember their birthdays, just small steps.

02:34:56.000 You know, that's all we can do.

02:34:57.000 And by the way, history is against us.

02:35:01.000 Again, I think we dodged the bullet, and I hate to use that terminology, when we did not, when our president almost got shot twice, and Charlie Kirk got shot, and we did not respond.

02:35:14.000 So that was, I mean, just imagine if someone on the other side would have been assassinated.

02:35:22.000 That's a sure way to civil war, because already we don't trust our institutions.

02:35:27.000 Tim, you were mentioning that before.

02:35:28.000 We don't trust our institutions.

02:35:30.000 Nobody trusts politicians.

02:35:31.000 No one cares about courts anymore.

02:35:34.000 So, even if you're on a political science basis and you look at what happens before a civil war, I'd say we're like five out of eight already.

02:35:48.000 I appreciate that.

02:35:49.000 Thank you.

02:35:51.000 Yeah, I'm definitely excited to read your book.

02:35:55.000 Just a quick shout out, Phil, Tim's dad, and MFL Marines, past, present, and future.

02:36:00.000 Happy birthday, Semper Fedelis.

02:36:01.000 We were up.

02:36:02.000 And how many push ups did you do for chesty today?

02:36:06.000 I did chest day yesterday.

02:36:08.000 So I didn't do any push ups today.

02:36:10.000 I did chest yesterday.

02:36:11.000 Fair enough.

02:36:12.000 Fair enough.

02:36:14.000 You were in the upper brains?

02:36:16.000 Yeah.

02:36:16.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:36:17.000 Did you get any comments?

02:36:18.000 I didn't do anything.

02:36:20.000 All right.

02:36:22.000 Well, my friends, of course, we are back tomorrow.

02:36:24.000 Thank you all so much for hanging out.

02:36:25.000 Thanks for coming, Guy.

02:36:26.000 Thank you for having me.

02:36:26.000 It's been a blast.

02:36:27.000 And so long as AI permits, we'll see you tomorrow.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 10, 2026

"Total EXONERATION" Massie Impeachment Of Pete Hegseth FAILS, Trump Celebrates

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