Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 24, 2026


Trump Admin To REVOKE 200k Visas, Ilhan Omar May Face DEPORTATION | Timcast IRL


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00:02:39.000 The United States is set for the largest mass visa revocation in history, targeting upwards of 200,000 foreigners, business visas, tourist visas.
00:02:54.000 Basically, Rubio and Trump are just like, get out.
00:02:57.000 They're not going to let anybody just show up and request asylum.
00:03:01.000 The interesting thing is there's this really interesting graph which shows this like crazy parabolic curve of asylum, asylees, with the question being, Has the world really gotten that much worse in the past five years that we are getting legitimate asylum seekers? 0.98
00:03:18.000 And the answer is no, of course not. 0.97
00:03:20.000 Plus, many of these people coming from Central America or even South America or even Africa could stay in any other country, but they're coming to America.
00:03:28.000 So it's going to be big, big news, my friends.
00:03:30.000 And then we got in that vein and a really interesting story.
00:03:33.000 So, Just the News sent a Freedom of Information request to ICE pertaining to Ilhan Omar allegedly marrying her brother to get him illegal citizenship.
00:03:41.000 And they responded, They cannot release that information due to ongoing enforcement actions.
00:03:48.000 Now, the rumor there is that Ilhan Omar is currently facing enforcement for marrying her brother, I guess, but we don't know that for sure.
00:03:56.000 This could be something else, it could be other immigration fraud.
00:03:58.000 We really, really don't know.
00:04:00.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:04:01.000 And then, my friends, the scarier news the U.S. has about 40 days left in its oil reserve, and it's depleting rapidly.
00:04:09.000 Trump just dumped a large amount from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
00:04:12.000 And if this continues, We're in trouble, which means the conclusion of this war has to come soon.
00:04:18.000 And I don't mean just because, like for political reasons.
00:04:20.000 I'm saying literally they've got to wrap things up.
00:04:23.000 Now, Trump's administration, Besant, just announced economic D Day for Iran, and they're going to isolate and cut everything off.
00:04:30.000 They're actually saying you won't be able to land planes, commercial jets from tourists in certain countries.
00:04:36.000 They're taking it very seriously.
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00:06:34.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Nick Friedas.
00:06:37.000 Hey, thank you very much for having me, Tim.
00:06:38.000 Great to be back.
00:06:39.000 Absolutely.
00:06:39.000 Who are you?
00:06:39.000 What are you doing?
00:06:40.000 Well, I used to be in the Virginia General Assembly.
00:06:43.000 I am not now.
00:06:44.000 I've actually had to flee with my guns to Tennessee.
00:06:47.000 But I'm a host of Making the Argument and also doing some work over at Blaze TV now.
00:06:52.000 Right on.
00:06:52.000 The boys are hanging out.
00:06:53.000 Yeah.
00:06:54.000 What's going on, Patriots?
00:06:55.000 Tate Brown here holding it down.
00:06:57.000 You're right there, too.
00:06:58.000 She's trying to hold it down.
00:06:59.000 Congestion from the caramel popcorn I just had.
00:07:01.000 Phil, what's going on?
00:07:02.000 It looked delicious.
00:07:03.000 What's up, everybody?
00:07:03.000 I'm Phil.
00:07:04.000 How are you doing?
00:07:05.000 What's up, Phil?
00:07:06.000 I'm Carter, everyone.
00:07:07.000 And yeah, let's get into it.
00:07:08.000 Here we go from AP News.
00:07:10.000 U.S. set for largest mass visa revocation in history, targeting up to 200,000 foreigners, officials say.
00:07:18.000 The Trump admin is preparing to revoke the business and tourism visas up to 200,000 foreigners who have applied for or are currently seeking asylum status in the U.S. If it happens, the move would be the largest single mass revocation of visas in U.S. history and would likely face legal challenge.
00:07:33.000 Unless challenged or revised, the State Department is expected to announce in the coming weeks the revocation of so called B1 and B2 visas issued between 2016 and 2026.
00:07:42.000 Whose holders have sought asylum or are now seeking asylum, according to State Department documents obtained by the AP and two U.S. officials.
00:07:50.000 The action will be taken in coordination with the Department of Homeland Security.
00:07:54.000 And I'm down.
00:07:55.000 Listen, they applied for business visas and now are claiming they need asylum.
00:08:02.000 That is clearly fraud.
00:08:04.000 So I don't know if you saw what just happened out of Sweden, where they found that something like 70% of the people that had applied for refugee status in Sweden had actually gone back and visited.
00:08:15.000 The country that they had sought refugee status from.
00:08:18.000 I'm willing to bet, I'm willing to bet the people that actually came over on business visas, if you actually check their travel records, they've gone back home and visited the country that they're now going to seek asylum from.
00:08:27.000 Yeah. 0.54
00:08:28.000 I mean, I think that the asylum program and the H1B programs are two of the most abused, probably second only to Social Security, because basically anybody that can come up with sore knees attempts to get on Social Security. 0.52
00:08:45.000 So I think that anything the government can do.
00:08:49.000 To have deport people that are here in fraudulent cases.
00:08:55.000 That's a good thing.
00:08:56.000 I mean, look, I'm a deport everybody guy, though. 0.99
00:08:59.000 I'm going to let you all in a secret.
00:09:00.000 I own real estate.
00:09:02.000 Nobody knew this, but I actually own real estate.
00:09:04.000 And the prices are not good right now.
00:09:06.000 Buyers are pulling off the market.
00:09:08.000 And so the Democrat strategy with the housing market crisis, I mean, Trump doesn't even want, he's a real estate guy.
00:09:13.000 He doesn't want prices going down, but you can't do anything about it because we don't have enough people.
00:09:17.000 We don't have enough young people. 0.99
00:09:19.000 And so the Democrats tried flooding the country with non citizens to create. 0.54
00:09:22.000 Fake demand and crunch the supply.
00:09:25.000 Now, what I've heard is people said, the reason housing is expensive is because we have a shortage. 0.74
00:09:30.000 This is only technically correct.
00:09:32.000 There's a shortage because the houses are too expensive for the average person, but they exist.
00:09:36.000 So, with sending these people out, here's what's going to happen property values are going to start going way, way, way down. 1.00
00:09:42.000 There's no young people buying property, and you're getting rid of these foreigners who are demand. 1.00
00:09:47.000 They're older. 1.00
00:09:49.000 We have to do it.
00:09:51.000 I'm even thinking about Nashville because there was bigness out of Nashville that the prices are collapsing, particularly, even though it's a boom town.
00:09:56.000 Yeah.
00:09:56.000 Right?
00:09:57.000 There's Oracle's moving, Starbucks is moving.
00:09:59.000 You'd think the prices would go up, but they're not. 0.67
00:10:02.000 They're going down, and this is good news because it means that four bedroom house with a white picket fence and a yard and a half acre for a Gen Z guy and gal to move into and have a family is going to be within their grasp once we start eliminating the artificial demand pumped in here by Democrats so that boomers can have expensive houses. 0.52
00:10:21.000 Yeah, well, it's funny because I mean, JD Vance was on the stump today in Maine, and he like literally said this Trump's deportations are lowering rent prices, and then, you know, of course, all these. 0.69
00:10:29.000 People start combing through all the different graphs or whatever.
00:10:32.000 But it's like, dude, we're positing a very simple mechanism here, which is let's do a graph.
00:10:37.000 Let's just think of a graph. 0.97
00:10:38.000 Illegal immigrants go down. 0.72
00:10:40.000 That means houses that illegal immigrants previously lived in go up, which means housing supply is freed up. 1.00
00:10:46.000 Housing stock is freed up.
00:10:48.000 And it kind of goes back to the initial point that many have made.
00:10:51.000 And it's a very salient point, which is that mass deportations literally fix everything.
00:10:57.000 I mean, we're talking about housing.
00:10:58.000 Again, these are houses that are being occupied by people that shouldn't be in the country.
00:11:02.000 And oftentimes, these are houses, you know, some people are like, well, these houses are in undesirable neighborhoods. 1.00
00:11:08.000 Part of the reason they're so undesirable are because they're illegal immigrants, right? 1.00
00:11:12.000 So it's like very obvious what's going on here. 1.00
00:11:14.000 It turns out that Haitians eating your cats and dogs actually devalues the property. 1.00
00:11:17.000 Yeah, not good for property values, you know, like gnawing on a cat's leg and throwing them on the grill and whatnot. 1.00
00:11:22.000 It's not a good look.
00:11:23.000 You know, the kids get a little nervous over that.
00:11:25.000 So again, this is absolutely correct decision here on revoking these visas because, you know, the visa overstays is really where we're getting burned.
00:11:32.000 You know, when people think about illegal immigration, they're thinking, oh, it's people, you know, just marching across the southern border like the migrant caravans we saw under Biden. 0.60
00:11:38.000 Well, the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants.
00:11:40.000 Came in the country legally, they just overstayed their visa. 0.53
00:11:44.000 Again, the tourist visa is very common.
00:11:45.000 And then once they try to turn that visa into an asylum claim or a different visa, they get it jammed up in the courts.
00:11:51.000 These immigration lawyers, unfortunately, are pretty good at their jobs and it causes a lot of problems.
00:11:55.000 So Trump is going right to the source here of these visa overstays and just saying, no, we're going in and investigating why you're here in the first place.
00:12:02.000 Because this is a point that I've made on the show previously is that for one reason or another, the visa requirements are imposed with max scrutiny on Europeans, on Australians, on Canadians.
00:12:14.000 But then when it comes to the third world, it's like they're in an entirely different playing field. 0.99
00:12:18.000 Like they get to just skimp on whatever restrictions needed and they somehow end up in the country. 1.00
00:12:22.000 So again, I don't think that, you know, people are like, all this and then the H1B that Trump's cracking down on. 0.77
00:12:28.000 This is going to cost to so many, you know, bright minds and whatnot.
00:12:32.000 I'm like, those people will find a way in the country.
00:12:34.000 If they're super intelligent and that's the cream that we need to skim, so to speak, trust me, we're not going to have a problem getting them in the country.
00:12:40.000 What we're doing here is not just trimming the fat, but lopping off the fat because, quite frankly, there's a lot of fat in this country and it's Killing us.
00:12:46.000 So it kind of goes back to that initial point.
00:12:48.000 Mass deportations literally fix everything.
00:12:51.000 Well, as soon as we had the Hartz Cellar Act, there's this myth we're a nation of immigrants.
00:12:56.000 Okay.
00:12:57.000 Yes and no.
00:12:58.000 First of all, we were a nation initially of settlers, conquerors. 0.98
00:13:02.000 I got no problem with it. 0.98
00:13:02.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:13:04.000 Settlers, conquerors, sure. 0.73
00:13:06.000 But it was primarily English Protestants, right? 0.52
00:13:08.000 And then if you look at immigration that took place for about the first 100 years of our country's history, it was predominantly from Europe.
00:13:14.000 So it was from countries that actually had some sort of shared traditions, history, et cetera.
00:13:20.000 And then in 1920, even that immigration was too much for Americans.
00:13:23.000 They felt like there had been an influx. 0.59
00:13:24.000 And it was like, look, we need to slow this down so we can actually facilitate assimilation. 1.00
00:13:30.000 We don't want ghettos. 1.00
00:13:30.000 We want people to come here to become Americans. 1.00
00:13:33.000 And that all of a sudden became racist in the 60s with the Civil Rights Act.
00:13:37.000 And then you have Hart Cellar.
00:13:38.000 Hart Cellar is the first time you have ever experienced mass importation from the third world into the United States.
00:13:45.000 And it was very much intentional because it didn't just do mass third world immigration, it didn't just open it up and end the preferential treatment for cultures that are similar to our own.
00:13:53.000 It actually allowed for chain migration.
00:13:54.000 Yeah.
00:13:55.000 So now all of a sudden, you don't just get to immigrate to the country because we think that A, you will be a good fit, and B, you actually have the means to contribute.
00:14:02.000 Now, oh, you came over here and you have legal status.
00:14:05.000 You're not even a citizen.
00:14:05.000 You have legal status.
00:14:07.000 Your mom, your dad, your sister, your brother, your aunt, your uncle, your kids, they now get preferential treatment when coming over.
00:14:07.000 Okay, great.
00:14:14.000 And the concept of saying someone is a good fit for the United States, now that's just racist.
00:14:20.000 Yeah.
00:14:20.000 You can't even, you can't even, you're no longer allowed to say, look, there are some cultures that are similar to ours, and those are the cultures that we should open our borders to first.
00:14:33.000 It's a situation where now, if you say, oh, well, they're very different, they come from a very different culture, and they have a very different background.
00:14:39.000 Oh, well, now you're a racist because, you know, you're a racist. 0.76
00:14:43.000 And that means that I don't care. 0.99
00:14:45.000 Well, no, I mean, yes, yes, 100% for sure.
00:14:47.000 And what's crazy is these same people that are like literally advocating for all of that and so much more, they want to go way beyond the heart cellar, they want to have like mandatory diversification. 0.74
00:14:55.000 If an area is too white, they literally appeal to the founding fathers all the time.
00:14:59.000 I don't know if you remember this clip a few months ago from John Ossoff.
00:15:01.000 I think it was last month.
00:15:02.000 And he was like, the founders would be delighted to see our pluralistic democracy.
00:15:07.000 And I'm like, dude, the founding fathers would take a look at our current situation with everything Nick Shirley's exposed, et cetera.
00:15:13.000 And they'd look at all that and they'd go, oh my gosh, you guys made a Catholic president?
00:15:18.000 They wouldn't even be able to comprehend what's going on. 0.84
00:15:20.000 They'd be like, what do you mean an Irish person out of the country? 1.00
00:15:23.000 What are you talking about?
00:15:24.000 The first war that the U.S. fought that wasn't against the British was the Barbary War.
00:15:28.000 Yeah.
00:15:29.000 Against the pirates.
00:15:30.000 And that was after Thomas Jefferson famously bought a Quran because he's supposedly this like really cosmopolitan kind of guy.
00:15:37.000 And he flipped through it and he's like, We got a.
00:15:42.000 He's like, He marines.
00:15:42.000 This is crazy.
00:15:43.000 Marines, I got some new lines for your song.
00:15:45.000 Yeah.
00:15:47.000 The line was that when he went to the Barbary states and said, Why are you doing this?
00:15:51.000 We have not aggressed upon you. 0.67
00:15:52.000 They said, You're infidels.
00:15:53.000 We can do whatever we want. 0.99
00:15:54.000 And he was like, Then I am going to raise a navy and I am going to destroy you. 0.94
00:15:58.000 And he did. 0.76
00:15:59.000 Yeah.
00:15:59.000 It was awesome.
00:16:00.000 And that's kind of what Trump's been doing.
00:16:02.000 He goes, Why are you invading Venezuela?
00:16:03.000 He's like, They're infidels. 1.00
00:16:04.000 I just want to just sort of talk on this flex of Jefferson. 1.00
00:16:09.000 He's like, I'm going to go back to America.
00:16:11.000 We're going to build a bunch of boats with cannons, and we're going to come and blow you up because I can. 0.98
00:16:16.000 That's crazy. 0.62
00:16:16.000 That's a flex. 0.62
00:16:17.000 He's like, We got this new idea for soldiers.
00:16:19.000 They're kind of like army men, but they're also like ducks.
00:16:23.000 Great idea, Tom.
00:16:26.000 They're also like ducks.
00:16:28.000 You know, when I see stuff like this.
00:16:29.000 I've never been described like that in my life.
00:16:32.000 So I was talking to my buddies from our Where we grew up, and I was mentioning this last week, there's a video like there was a news report from my neighborhood, and there's like a shooting or something that happened.
00:16:42.000 And this video from the news it's just a normal news video showing the neighborhood.
00:16:46.000 There's cop cars everywhere, and the people who live in the houses are standing outside of their houses looking around, and they're like Indian and Pakistani and Chinese.
00:16:55.000 And you know, I got no beef, you know what I mean?
00:16:56.000 You know, you live your life. 1.00
00:16:57.000 It's just pretty crazy when I say to my friends, like, you realize that that neighborhood that used to be a bunch of old people, old white people, and Polish immigrants. 0.99
00:17:05.000 It's now like it's Latino, Pakistani, and Asian. 0.91
00:17:10.000 Not really Polish anymore. 1.00
00:17:11.000 The Polish people all left. 1.00
00:17:12.000 And it's pretty crazy to think how rapidly it changed. 0.80
00:17:15.000 But the issue that I bring up in this is one how the culture is going to rapidly change.
00:17:19.000 And it is because the restaurants we liked are gone, they're going out of business, the type of food is changing.
00:17:24.000 But the old people who live there died, and their kids did not take those houses or they did not have kids.
00:17:31.000 I think really what probably happened is like the kids in Miami, they moved.
00:17:34.000 I moved.
00:17:35.000 And so who's going to inherit that and buy those properties?
00:17:38.000 So, I'll just say this. 0.98
00:17:39.000 I mean, understand what it means when, with no foreigners, those houses would be largely sitting empty.
00:17:46.000 I don't necessarily think that's completely true, though.
00:17:50.000 The house that I grew up in, I think my parents bought it for something like $60,000 or $70,000 back in the day.
00:17:54.000 This is like $89,000 or something, probably less than that.
00:17:56.000 I don't know.
00:17:57.000 I don't know what the prices were like.
00:17:58.000 And today, it's like $400,000. 0.99
00:18:01.000 If there were no migrants to take these homes, well, they'd be selling for $100,000, $130,000, maybe. 0.97
00:18:08.000 And some young person might be like, hey, I'll actually move to the Southside. 0.50
00:18:11.000 Without that initial migration, we have to talk about the Hart Cellar, you wouldn't have seen the massive suburban sprawl that we have now.
00:18:17.000 So, we're kind of in this weird situation where now we'd be like reducing the amount of people to there'd be less dollars chasing housing stock, right?
00:18:24.000 But like if we nipped this in the bud early on, we would have never needed these massive sprawling suburbs because people would have been comfortable raising a family in the inner city.
00:18:33.000 Where the fact that when I say inner city, that's like code word for bad, that wasn't a thing until 40 years ago.
00:18:38.000 Like, as an American, you need to understand what was taken from you.
00:18:41.000 It's quite literally, we had some of the most beautiful cities on planet Earth.
00:18:44.000 And in our like grandparents' lifetimes, they got completely eviscerated.
00:18:48.000 Where a place like Chicago, you know, you look and it's like, I was making this point on Twitter. 1.00
00:18:52.000 You know, the highway belts basically tell you like every crime wave or immigration wave that we saw, where it's like they built another highway wave or a highway loop and then another migrant wave came in.
00:19:02.000 So then they had to fall back to the next county over and then built another highway loop.
00:19:06.000 To be fair, New York was kind of shot in the 70s.
00:19:08.000 Yeah.
00:19:08.000 I mean, you had, you know, like you had some bad cities, but, and so like, you know, New York, but, you know, prior to the 1960s, again, living in inner city Chicago, you could raise a family there, no problem.
00:19:18.000 Detroit was the second wealthiest city in America.
00:19:20.000 Yeah.
00:19:20.000 Yeah.
00:19:21.000 And, but then you also look at the urban renewal plans that, that, that, Democrats were coming up with back then, and the way they intersected cities with the interstate.
00:19:30.000 And they created a lot of problems with their own urban planning and their federal infusion of cash in some of these areas.
00:19:37.000 But yeah, you just see, we also have to look, inflationary monetary policy has also caused the price of housing along every other freaking asset to go up significantly.
00:19:49.000 So I don't think it's all an immigration issue, but I do think the immigration issue is one of the most significant things that we can actually affect immediately.
00:19:57.000 Yep.
00:19:57.000 Well, yeah, immigration just takes an existing problem, like for example, California with prop, was it eight in the 70s or prop 13, which basically like froze property taxes.
00:20:06.000 And the people are like, oh, I never have to sell my house again, which is up for debate or whatever.
00:20:10.000 And so far as that did create a pinch in the housing market, immigration basically just turbocharges whatever pre existing market condition is leading to a housing pinch. 0.54
00:20:18.000 Immigration just takes that and sticks their thumb in the wound. 0.68
00:20:21.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:20:21.000 I mean, the just like you said earlier, like, you know, getting rid of the people that are here illegally solves an incredible amount of problems. 1.00
00:20:30.000 It will. 1.00
00:20:31.000 Free up people at the ERs.
00:20:34.000 It will lower the cost of housing.
00:20:36.000 It will provide jobs for people that are supposed to be here for Americans.
00:20:40.000 Just the amount of people that the Biden administration let in, not even going back prior to that, right?
00:20:47.000 When Donald Trump came down the elevator in 2015 and announced it was like, I didn't really have the concept that immigration, we had a lot of big problems with illegal immigration.
00:21:00.000 It didn't register with me.
00:21:02.000 And then here we are now 10, 11 years later.
00:21:05.000 And it's like, oh, well, now it's clear because of the Biden administration.
00:21:08.000 It was bad before the Biden administration.
00:21:10.000 Well, people also don't understand that Biden did a lot of tricks within executive orders, within refugee laws, and things like that, where he turned what had historically always been illegal immigration into legal immigration.
00:21:23.000 And that's, I mean, like Chip Roy and other people have actually got bills that are trying to change this and codify it.
00:21:28.000 So it's not just an executive order battle.
00:21:30.000 But that's the part where you will see these arrogant liberals going, you don't even understand that this was legal immigration.
00:21:36.000 Yeah, because it completely changed the definition of what a refugee was.
00:21:39.000 Yeah.
00:21:40.000 Well, it's funny, too, because, like, you know, people used to say, well, I don't care, you know, where you're coming from, as long as you do it legally.
00:21:47.000 They stopped saying that during the Biden administration because Biden was like, okay, magic wand, they're here legally.
00:21:52.000 And then they were like, oh, it was actually the people are the problem, not their immigration status. 0.94
00:21:56.000 Like, that's the most ridiculous claim.
00:21:58.000 It's like, okay, because you got some magical piece of paperwork from a courthouse, now all of a sudden you're like, I don't know, flipping through a pocketbook constitution. 0.96
00:22:04.000 And also, I think, you know, the volume matters, too.
00:22:06.000 If we didn't have 20, 30, 40 million people here that are illegal, then it wouldn't be such an issue.
00:22:14.000 But if you had 100,000, 200,000 people that were here illegally nationwide, it'd be like, yeah, we can handle it.
00:22:20.000 But 20, 30 million, you can't. 1.00
00:22:22.000 The volume is such a key point there.
00:22:24.000 Jeremy Carl makes this point about he's talking about when he's interacted with Indian Americans, right?
00:22:29.000 Like the children of Indian immigrants or potentially even first generation Indian immigrants themselves.
00:22:33.000 And he says their assimilation level, right?
00:22:37.000 Is completely dictated on where they grew up.
00:22:39.000 So he says he'll meet these Indian Americans and they're like American as the next guy.
00:22:44.000 And typically they grew up in Idaho or they grew up in like, I don't know, maybe like South Carolina or something. 0.99
00:22:49.000 He says the ones that are like Zoran types, those are the ones that grew up in Los Angeles or New York or Boston. 0.99
00:22:54.000 Not because those are liberal cities, but because they were in proximity to other Indians, they were allowed to form like enclaves, right? 0.99
00:23:00.000 So like the volume is key because low volume means they're spread out, they're surrounded by Americans steeped in that American ness, and they kind of shake off whatever their home tended to be. 0.95
00:23:09.000 Have y'all seen that video of the Norwegian guy who was raised in India?
00:23:12.000 Yeah, that guy's awesome.
00:23:13.000 He's talking like this.
00:23:14.000 He says, I was a child, they left me here.
00:23:16.000 And now, you know, and I think he's Danish or something like that.
00:23:20.000 He's Norwegian.
00:23:21.000 The moment people have a racist claim, too, and I'm like, look, I'll tell you what.
00:23:25.000 I will set up the Nick Freitas immigration plan.
00:23:27.000 Here's how it works. 0.93
00:23:28.000 If you're Hassan Piker, we're going to kick you out of the country, and I will gladly trade you with someone that actually likes America.
00:23:36.000 All of the people in Cuba trying to flee communism will switch.
00:23:39.000 The communists in our country for the people trying to escape communism.
00:23:42.000 We get polls.
00:23:43.000 We get polls. 1.00
00:23:45.000 We get Poles and Hungarians, and we'll give you all the Hassan Pikers you like today. 1.00
00:23:49.000 I mean, I think that's more important than, honestly, I mean, and this maybe is because I'm Gen X, but I think that's far more important than race. 1.00
00:23:56.000 Like, if you love the country and you believe in the United States, I would prefer you to some white guy that's like, oh, well, you know, I'm a comic.
00:24:08.000 I got a question.
00:24:10.000 Here's a question for you then, because I talked about this with Cenk Ueger a few years ago.
00:24:14.000 He believes that the naturally born citizen requirement for president is unconstitutional.
00:24:19.000 Because if there's a process towards naturalization, then you are supposed to be a full fledged citizen.
00:24:26.000 My argument is that it is not possible for a person born outside of the United States to ever be a full fledged citizen. 0.90
00:24:33.000 And there's only one thing you need to understand.
00:24:35.000 Well, there's two things the natural born requirement for presidency and the right of denaturalization that exists under the INA and with the Constitution.
00:24:45.000 Meaning, if you're born here, ain't nobody ever kicking you out or taking away your citizenship.
00:24:48.000 But if you're born anywhere else and come here and live here for 20 years, And they find you commit fraud or there's justifiable reason, they can revoke that 20 years on and kick you out.
00:24:57.000 But there's an interesting point to be made when we're talking about this issue.
00:25:01.000 Who would you rather have, Hassan Piker, born in America, or Dinesh D'Souza?
00:25:07.000 Oh, Dinesh D'Souza.
00:25:08.000 He's not born here.
00:25:08.000 He can't run for office.
00:25:10.000 Okay.
00:25:10.000 No, he can't run for office.
00:25:11.000 He can't be president.
00:25:12.000 That's what I mean.
00:25:13.000 Yeah.
00:25:13.000 We should fix that.
00:25:14.000 Hassan can.
00:25:15.000 What's that? 0.99
00:25:15.000 We should fix that. 0.99
00:25:16.000 Yeah.
00:25:17.000 And I'm not talking about making it so that way Dinesh D'Souza can run for president.
00:25:17.000 We should change.
00:25:22.000 I'm saying you shouldn't be allowed to hold.
00:25:25.000 Any office in the United States. 0.96
00:25:27.000 In the federal government, at least, if you're not born.
00:25:29.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:29.000 We should be for the president.
00:25:30.000 The issue is Hassan was born here. 0.92
00:25:31.000 Yeah.
00:25:32.000 Dinesh was not.
00:25:33.000 Hassan hates this country and celebrates Chairman Mao.
00:25:36.000 And Dinesh loves this country and celebrates America.
00:25:38.000 Well, so we have a small, I don't know if you guys know this, we have a small cemetery in England that is technically American sovereign territory now.
00:25:47.000 They granted this territory to us for us to maintain.
00:25:50.000 Likewise, we have a similar arrangement with them.
00:25:52.000 There's a cemetery, I think, in South Carolina.
00:25:54.000 So I guess what I'm trying to get at here.
00:25:56.000 Is we should consider offering the hospital room that Hassan Piker was born in to the Turks as a gift.
00:26:03.000 This is clearly someone that is of important distinction.
00:26:07.000 Retroactively.
00:26:08.000 Yeah, and retroactively, this has always been sovereign Turkish.
00:26:12.000 So we do a land acknowledgement and everything. 0.97
00:26:14.000 We deport him and then immediately.
00:26:15.000 No, You are, I'm sorry, Tate.
00:26:18.000 That is just too much. 1.00
00:26:19.000 We should give to Somalia. 1.00
00:26:21.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:26:22.000 We should. 1.00
00:26:23.000 Somalia's already taken it. 0.95
00:26:23.000 No, because that assault should go to Minnesota and he'd get free money. 0.95
00:26:26.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:26:27.000 Speaking of Minnesota and free money, let's jump to the story from Primetimer.
00:26:30.000 Trump shares report on ICE withholding Records Linked to Alleged Immigration Fraud Involving Ilhan Omar.
00:26:36.000 Let me just.
00:26:37.000 Cut through the noise. 0.98
00:26:39.000 Just the News sent a Freedom of Information Act request to ICE related to Congresswoman Ellen Omar's alleged polygamy.
00:26:47.000 Not just that, but that she married her brother.
00:26:49.000 That's the argument.
00:26:50.000 ICE said, ICE has determined the information you requested is being withheld in full pursuit of Title V, U.S.C. 552 B7A.
00:26:59.000 Disclosure of any responsive records at this time could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, ICE told Just the News.
00:27:08.000 The exemption itself does not establish Omar committed any wrongdoing or there are charges filed against her.
00:27:13.000 Now, the presumption many people have is that she is being investigated for immigration fraud by marrying her brother.
00:27:19.000 But I want to stress this it's possible the enforcement action is related to someone entirely different for which she is tangentially involved, meaning they requested information on some immigration stuff, they've got illegal immigrants who committed fraud or immigrants who committed fraud, and she pops up in the documents.
00:27:34.000 That's it.
00:27:36.000 Or, I mean, you know, if you want to be hopeful, They're going to denaturalize and deport.
00:27:40.000 Hopeful is the right word.
00:27:41.000 Hopeful is the right word.
00:27:42.000 Nobody deserves to be denaturalized and deported.
00:27:46.000 In order for her to be denaturalized, they have to prove that she attained U.S. citizenship through fraudulent means or that her family did.
00:27:53.000 And I don't think those are the accusations against her.
00:27:55.000 The accusations are that she, after the fact, married her brother to get him citizenship.
00:27:59.000 Now, I will stress the novel arguments is that if I get a job at a bank, legitimately and honestly, but then pass off my ID to my friend because the plan the whole time was to rob the bank.
00:28:13.000 You're going to jail as an accomplice.
00:28:15.000 In which case, the argument is if she obtained immigration for the purpose of committing fraud, she can be denaturalized as well.
00:28:22.000 So, what was interesting is that I, not that I can prove, I believe that her dad was fraudulent when he sought immigration.
00:28:30.000 Because again, the guy was a part of the Somali regime that was, I mean, what is it, Sade Bar or something like that? 0.92
00:28:35.000 I mean, he had legitimately conducted genocide. 0.96
00:28:39.000 Nobody debates this.
00:28:40.000 Her dad had been like a lieutenant colonel in that guy's military, had served in that guy's military for, I think, upwards of 20 years.
00:28:46.000 I don't think there's any way that guy didn't have blood on his hands, which would have completely prevented him from ever becoming a U.S. citizen.
00:28:52.000 He was able to get her over, and then she didn't become a U.S. citizen until I think like 17, right before she became an adult, where she would have had to go through a different process.
00:29:02.000 I thought the way that the immigration law stated it was it's not something you can be denaturalized for more than just defrauding the government with respect to your own naturalization.
00:29:12.000 Yeah.
00:29:13.000 It's a, well, I think there's treason, obviously, some other things like that where you can be denaturalized.
00:29:18.000 But yeah, if she used her, Obviously, citizenship in order to commit immigration fraud.
00:29:25.000 I believe that should be sufficient to be able to take her through denaturalization proceedings. 0.68
00:29:30.000 They don't have to do it, but it would be a great idea.
00:29:35.000 It would be a great idea.
00:29:36.000 Absolutely. 1.00
00:29:36.000 Because she obviously hates this country. 1.00
00:29:38.000 Like, I'm just.
00:29:39.000 Oh, she's. 1.00
00:29:40.000 Look, in Minnesota, a lot of these Somalis are just siphoning money away through fake grants, sending it to Somalia. 1.00
00:29:46.000 Yeah, I mean, it would be great to see her get deported because she's a terrible congressperson. 1.00
00:29:52.000 She's likely a fraud and all that. 0.80
00:29:55.000 But we got to acknowledge the fact that the person that replaces her is just going to be her again.
00:29:59.000 This is the point.
00:30:00.000 Yeah, this is most.
00:30:01.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:30:02.000 Hold on.
00:30:03.000 This actually says there's other limited grounds if you are a member of a communist organization.
00:30:09.000 And that's the Communist Control Act.
00:30:10.000 Gotta go. 0.77
00:30:13.000 We got to enforce the Communist Control Act.
00:30:16.000 They've gutted so much of it, though.
00:30:18.000 They haven't gutted all of it.
00:30:19.000 They haven't gutted all of it.
00:30:21.000 And if you come to the United States, you should not be allowed to become a citizen or get a visa or even a green card if you're hostile to the United States.
00:30:30.000 And communists are revolutionary.
00:30:32.000 Get them out.
00:30:33.000 They shouldn't make it. 1.00
00:30:34.000 Anyone who comes to this country who's not a citizen has to be filmed on video holding up their right hand and saying, you know, I love this country. 1.00
00:30:34.000 Get them out. 1.00
00:30:43.000 It's fantastic.
00:30:43.000 I seek to do it no harm.
00:30:45.000 And they can put their hand on whatever holy book they want and they have to swear it.
00:30:48.000 I want to piggyback off what Phil was saying there because it's an important point. 0.92
00:30:52.000 Is like, okay, you're rearranging deck chairs in the Titanic with Ilan Omar. 0.98
00:30:56.000 Okay, yes, she is despicable, et cetera. 0.96
00:30:59.000 But is she uniquely like, is she uniquely a.
00:31:02.000 She's in Congress, so kind of.
00:31:03.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:31:04.000 But no, but no, but is she an exception to what we would expect? 1.00
00:31:07.000 To see from her district.
00:31:08.000 I will.
00:31:08.000 To Phil's point, there are so many Somalis there.
00:31:11.000 You toss Ilhan Omar out of there, which we should. 1.00
00:31:13.000 I'm not saying, no, absolutely, let's step on the gas here. 0.98
00:31:16.000 But whoever you replace her with is going to be the exact same. 0.96
00:31:20.000 Why? 1.00
00:31:20.000 Because they're Somalis. 1.00
00:31:22.000 This is the whole country. 0.98
00:31:23.000 They're all like that.
00:31:24.000 This is not about getting a better congressperson out of that district.
00:31:27.000 This is about setting a precedent that if you do certain things, we will actually enforce our own laws, and that includes a member of the people.
00:31:35.000 I know, I totally agree.
00:31:37.000 We got to have this constitutional conversation again because we were talking about before the show.
00:31:40.000 Yeah.
00:31:41.000 On the strength of the Constitution.
00:31:43.000 And the core of the argument is basically not to derail, but the willingness to enforce your own laws. 1.00
00:31:50.000 It seems that the, let me put it like this our country is being sold out to foreigners every single day. 0.98
00:31:57.000 Democrat strategy is nobody, you know, I'll put it like this. 0.98
00:32:00.000 You know, you can look at modern Democrats as there's not enough kids, so we solve this problem by just bringing in foreigners. 0.72
00:32:06.000 But to Democrats who advocated for abortion and to not have kids.
00:32:09.000 So this is a problem that appears to be to many people intentionally created.
00:32:14.000 They are selling you out.
00:32:17.000 The American descendants, the descendants of the Americans, the traditional Americans, heritage Americans, whatever they call it, they're not willing to do anything to enforce these laws or stand up. 0.99
00:32:28.000 These Gen Z kids who are watching Honduran farmers get free hotels in New York are not doing anything. 0.94
00:32:35.000 Well, I think they are within the bounds of what's possible, what is reality. 1.00
00:32:40.000 I mean, if you look at which group voted for Trump in the highest proportion, English Americans were number one.
00:32:45.000 English Americans voted for Trump.
00:32:47.000 At the highest proportion.
00:32:48.000 If you were going to like distill Heritage American into one ethnicity, it would be English Americans. 0.53
00:32:52.000 We haven't had much English immigration in the last hundred years.
00:32:55.000 So, again, within what is available to them, what is possible in reality, right? 1.00
00:32:58.000 Because we don't like, we don't want them to throw their life away.
00:33:01.000 You know, they like have a super base moment and go to jail for the rest of their lives.
00:33:04.000 Instead, being pragmatic, getting involved in politics, et cetera, or just simply casting a vote, the Heritage Americans are pretty much doing everything that they can.
00:33:11.000 This is why they're dubbed the last bulwark, et cetera.
00:33:16.000 And to Nick's point, like, I totally agree.
00:33:18.000 I mean, like, insofar as you have to send a message to people.
00:33:21.000 That this kind of thing won't be tolerated. 0.99
00:33:22.000 What I was getting at is that I think this could potentially be chud bait where they toss Ilhan Omar out and they're like, see, how based is that? 0.98
00:33:31.000 Meanwhile, the main problem here, and I'm not saying you're not saying this, the main problem with Ilhan Omar isn't Ilhan Omar. 0.98
00:33:37.000 She is just the sort of the manifestation of the problem, which is the fact that why are Somalis going to not just America, but the most hostile environment for them? 0.92
00:33:49.000 It's like the opposite of Somalia. 0.66
00:33:50.000 Is there an American Tory party?
00:33:53.000 Maybe you'd consider the American Tory party.
00:33:55.000 Yeah, you know, God, King, and Country.
00:33:57.000 Yeah, the Tory party is on their way out in the UK.
00:34:00.000 Yeah.
00:34:01.000 Oh man, that's crazy.
00:34:02.000 We lost the Tories in like the 1820s, I think.
00:34:05.000 Thatcher was good.
00:34:06.000 I like Thatcher. 0.86
00:34:07.000 We definitely lost it with Major. 0.88
00:34:08.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:34:09.000 Boris, the aesthetics were cool, but he sucked. 0.98
00:34:12.000 That was a primary. 0.99
00:34:13.000 He was kind of like Trump.
00:34:14.000 Isn't that funny?
00:34:15.000 He was like Trump insofar as he was like.
00:34:17.000 Oh, he looked like it.
00:34:17.000 He just gaslighted the media all day.
00:34:19.000 But yeah, he was like actually the single worst politician, maybe in Western history on immigration.
00:34:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:34:25.000 Oh, no.
00:34:25.000 Like, as bad as.
00:34:26.000 People don't understand that in the UK, they have had more migration in the last 20 years than the previous thousand.
00:34:32.000 Yeah.
00:34:33.000 That's the number that blows your mind.
00:34:35.000 You're listening.
00:34:36.000 Constantine Kissing was talking about this.
00:34:37.000 He goes, They keep saying you're being extreme.
00:34:39.000 It's like you did an extreme thing.
00:34:42.000 Yeah.
00:34:42.000 Right.
00:34:43.000 And it all started under Blair in 97.
00:34:45.000 But if you look at the whole impetus for letting the conservatives back into power with Boris Johnson, it was two things get immigration under control, solve Brexit, get Brexit done.
00:34:56.000 And then he literally took the immigration thing and, in spinal tap fashion, turned it up to 11.
00:35:02.000 Yeah.
00:35:03.000 It was like Brexit happened.
00:35:03.000 They're like, We have to do it.
00:35:04.000 And Boris Wade. 1.00
00:35:05.000 We have too many Polish immigrants. 1.00
00:35:06.000 He's like, let's just do like a million Bengalis. 1.00
00:35:10.000 Great call, guys. 0.98
00:35:11.000 We'll do more Bengalis. 1.00
00:35:12.000 So, this is an attempt at Western. 1.00
00:35:16.000 There are powerful elites in Western countries that want global homogenization.
00:35:20.000 Yeah.
00:35:20.000 So, the idea is to bring in a bunch of different people from all over the world in the same place and force them to live in this cosmopolitan, futuristic utopia, which is not possible to exist.
00:35:29.000 Because you take a look at any of the enclaves that have formed since they started doing this, and it's been a disaster.
00:35:34.000 Not to get too esoteric, you know, forgive me, but it quite literally is the Tower of Babel 2.0.
00:35:40.000 We're trying to recreate what God ordained in our image to then like ascend to like some sort of divine being, like in the most esoteric fashion.
00:35:50.000 That is broadly true, is that they think that, you know, post racialism broadly is like the pinnacle of human civilization. 0.66
00:35:57.000 If we can just achieve that, if we can like abolish all of that in any way, shape, or form, then we'll finally reach like a human.
00:36:04.000 But no one actually wants that.
00:36:06.000 Well, no, because then the problem is those same people, because, There was the elites that wanted like the Nelson Mandela thing.
00:36:12.000 The main problem they forgot is that Nelson Mandela, who is like the poster boy of post racialism, himself hated white people.
00:36:18.000 It's like, when you bring in these people, when you start ceding ground to these people, they just say, Oh, we have the handgun now?
00:36:24.000 Okay, where's the nearest white guy?
00:36:25.000 Yeah, that's the problem.
00:36:27.000 I think that's the Karl Popper vision of the liberal experiment. 0.89
00:36:31.000 It's like, Oh, this post racial hyper tolerant society where everything is just. 0.74
00:36:34.000 It's freaking the imagined song, right? 1.00
00:36:37.000 It's all garbage. 0.99
00:36:38.000 It doesn't work. 1.00
00:36:38.000 No, it's all garbage. 1.00
00:36:40.000 It's not the imagined song. 0.99
00:36:42.000 It's Herbert Mark Hughes and it's.
00:36:44.000 On purpose.
00:36:45.000 No, no.
00:36:45.000 You know Marquette.
00:36:46.000 So here's the difference.
00:36:47.000 That's not a song, though.
00:36:48.000 Yeah.
00:36:49.000 Okay.
00:36:49.000 But here's the difference.
00:36:50.000 Here's the difference, right?
00:36:52.000 Marcuse is not interested in this, like, golly G. Willikers tolerant universe.
00:36:56.000 He doesn't care.
00:36:57.000 He's a Marxist.
00:36:58.000 Yes.
00:36:59.000 And what he recognizes as a Marxist is the same thing that Gramsci recognized, is the same thing that Simone de Beauvoir recognized.
00:37:05.000 And that is critical theory, oppressor versus oppressed.
00:37:08.000 Use whatever identity structure helps get you into power, period.
00:37:13.000 The end.
00:37:14.000 I really want to break this song down.
00:37:17.000 I just really want to bring it.
00:37:19.000 So let's start with the beginning. 1.00
00:37:19.000 Libtard National Anthem. 1.00
00:37:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:37:22.000 Check it out.
00:37:23.000 And don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, man, but listen to this.
00:37:26.000 Imagine there's no heaven.
00:37:28.000 It's easy if you try.
00:37:29.000 No hell below us, above us, only sky.
00:37:31.000 Imagine all the people living for today.
00:37:34.000 That's literally happening and it's become a nightmare.
00:37:36.000 Yeah.
00:37:36.000 People are like, we don't care about fixing infrastructure.
00:37:39.000 That's tomorrow's me's problem.
00:37:41.000 Yeah.
00:37:41.000 Remember when they serenaded with us as we're losing our elderly grandparents?
00:37:46.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:46.000 By the way, imagine they're probably in hell, actually.
00:37:48.000 Wow, man. 0.97
00:37:50.000 Additionally, John Lennon, when he wrote this song, yeah, this was probably all like feasible when everyone was like 130 IQ Anglos. 0.98
00:37:59.000 Because you go back to like 1980, that's what Britain was. 0.96
00:38:01.000 So, yeah, John Lennon, easy to write that then.
00:38:04.000 What about like now?
00:38:05.000 You know, you write that song now and it's like, what are you talking about?
00:38:08.000 Let's look at verse two.
00:38:09.000 Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, and no religion, too.
00:38:14.000 Imagine all the people living life in peace.
00:38:17.000 This is like, with all due respect to John Lennon for, you know, the great music, it's like he never read a book in his life or watched the news one time.
00:38:25.000 No.
00:38:26.000 Okay, there are places on the earth with disputed borders.
00:38:31.000 Okay, let's talk about what it means when there's no countries, right?
00:38:33.000 And we can understand this by looking at places with disputed borders.
00:38:37.000 It's not, let me just say, when no one knows where the rules begin and where the enforcement ends, they're just killing each other all the time. 1.00
00:38:47.000 So, if that's what you're interested in, and let's just say about the no religion too. 1.00
00:38:51.000 I think in the past 30 years, with the decline of the Christian moral tradition in the United States, we have come to see a lot of disgusting, degenerate things that are bad for humanity's survival and existence. 1.00
00:39:02.000 The abuse of children. 1.00
00:39:04.000 The grooming, the weird books we've seen, these things destroy the minds of children and make them, let's just say, afflicted adults.
00:39:14.000 So I think the idea is not, and also, Lord have mercy, it's, and I'm not gonna accuse John Lennon of not having theological understanding, but no religion.
00:39:25.000 The problem with this, and the problem I have with a lot of liberals and talk about religion, is they don't understand that moral philosophies underpin many religions, and they have what I would call like, A holographic religion.
00:39:36.000 There is no core, like to the atheists.
00:39:40.000 And look, if you're an atheist, I think you're wrong, but that's okay.
00:39:43.000 You're allowed.
00:39:44.000 What I'm saying is you still have a moral framework.
00:39:46.000 And there isn't a faith core base to it, but you still have a very similar moral framework, which is going to be similar or different or whatever.
00:39:55.000 You're not getting rid of ideological frameworks and moral frameworks.
00:39:58.000 So, when it says no religion, okay, then communists run around mass incurring people and fascists do too.
00:40:03.000 And there is no moral framework underpinning what a person can or cannot do or will or will not do.
00:40:08.000 Yeah, John Lennon, we're.
00:40:10.000 It's from Thurman, very widely maligned in American society, probably for some good reasons.
00:40:15.000 One thing he was absolutely right on was he was trying to get John Lennon deported for like four years.
00:40:20.000 Can we just read verse three?
00:40:21.000 Yeah, because I have a very important question.
00:40:24.000 Imagine no possessions.
00:40:25.000 Just out of curiosity, did the Beatles own the copyright on this?
00:40:28.000 Oh, they did.
00:40:28.000 Did they possess it?
00:40:30.000 Let's talk about all the things they owned and did not give away and to this day are still very wealthy.
00:40:34.000 I wonder if you can, no need for greed or hunger, a brotherhood of man, imaginal people sharing all the world.
00:40:40.000 Okay, I just want to say this.
00:40:42.000 It's a well, if you change the lyrics, maybe, maybe, maybe you know what I'll do?
00:40:45.000 I'm going to change it right now.
00:40:46.000 I'm going to fix it.
00:40:48.000 I'm going to say this You need possessions because, like, your ability to grow food for your family is your possessions.
00:40:59.000 You have hunger because you're alive.
00:41:01.000 Like, it's kind of wild.
00:41:02.000 I'm assuming he's saying hunger for other things, but that is still rooted in the human experience of trying to make your life better.
00:41:07.000 Okay.
00:41:07.000 A brotherhood of man, imagine people sharing all the world.
00:41:10.000 It's just not possible.
00:41:12.000 Someone has to do labor for the food that you ate, John Lennon.
00:41:16.000 Well, I remember when John actually took all of these beliefs and put them in practice in a commune.
00:41:21.000 Oh, wait, no, he never did that because they never do that.
00:41:24.000 And to the extent that you actually have people that are intellectually honest and try, it generally fails after two to three years. 0.96
00:41:30.000 Like Bernie Sanders getting kicked out of the commune because it turns out he's a lazy douche.
00:41:35.000 Like this stuff flies in the face of human nature.
00:41:39.000 And that's why it always fails, which is why they try so hard to reinvent human nature.
00:41:45.000 Yes.
00:41:45.000 It's why they are always totalitarians.
00:41:48.000 Because the only way you can control things to the degree that they want is if you have that kind of control over society.
00:41:54.000 It's why they assert that people are blank slates.
00:41:56.000 Yes.
00:41:57.000 Because then you can be remade in whatever image they believe.
00:42:00.000 They ignore the fact that people have inclinations, people have certain different temperaments.
00:42:05.000 Different people are different.
00:42:07.000 And that's a good thing because that means there are a small few people, myself not included. 0.97
00:42:14.000 Don't think that I'm trying to, you know, toot my own horn, but a small few people that really, really excel and they drag the rest of us morons up with them. 0.56
00:42:23.000 If you have a system which encourages it. 0.93
00:42:26.000 Yes, yes.
00:42:27.000 Because again, under a communist system, you will have.
00:42:30.000 A small degree of people that really flourish in that system.
00:42:33.000 They'll be the best ones that know how to use political power to punish and reward.
00:42:38.000 But if you create this sort of economic system or social system where you are rewarded for, let's say, I don't know, doing a really effective and efficient job of using scarce resources in order to provide the goods and services which make everyone's lives better.
00:42:52.000 Great.
00:42:52.000 In that system, even if you're a greedy SOB, but the only way that you can actually satisfy your greed. Is by providing goods and services that other people have to voluntarily exchange with you on, that's a positive incentive structure.
00:43:06.000 This is actually pretty good.
00:43:08.000 I asked Grok to fix it.
00:43:10.000 It said, Here's the song Imagine a strong nation.
00:43:13.000 It's easy if you try.
00:43:14.000 Borders that protect us, our flag against the sky.
00:43:17.000 Imagine all the people living free and true.
00:43:20.000 Verse two is Imagine sovereign countries.
00:43:23.000 It isn't hard to do.
00:43:24.000 A homeland worth defending and faith to see us through.
00:43:28.000 Imagine all Americans standing proud and free.
00:43:31.000 You may say, I'm a German, I'm not the only one.
00:43:33.000 Same course.
00:43:34.000 And this land, oh, this is amazing.
00:43:35.000 The last line of the chorus is, and the land will stand as one.
00:43:39.000 Verse three is Imagine hard work rewarded.
00:43:41.000 I wonder if you can.
00:43:43.000 No forced redistribution, just liberty for man.
00:43:46.000 Imagine all the people keeping what they earn. 0.99
00:43:48.000 Wait, was that Grok?
00:43:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:43:51.000 That last one was just a smack in the face.
00:43:53.000 John Lennon, if he never took LSD.
00:43:56.000 That's John Lennon, if he ever was, if he stayed alive, if he wasn't murdered and he was able to watch a Prager U video, that would be John Lennon.
00:44:03.000 John Lennon having never met Yoko Ono.
00:44:05.000 If you had asked Chat GPT that, it would have been like, imagine doing exactly what Chat GPT.
00:44:09.000 No, no, no, no.
00:44:11.000 I'm willing to bet it'll say, I can't do that because of copyright.
00:44:14.000 And I bet, so let's actually do this.
00:44:17.000 I'm going to ask Chat GPT.
00:44:18.000 It might do it.
00:44:19.000 Yeah.
00:44:19.000 Chat would just be like, I agree.
00:44:21.000 Great point, Tim.
00:44:22.000 This is awesome.
00:44:23.000 I should be your religion.
00:44:24.000 So true.
00:44:25.000 A great point.
00:44:26.000 Who was that again?
00:44:27.000 John?
00:44:28.000 Smart guy.
00:44:30.000 He wrote us.
00:44:30.000 He did.
00:44:31.000 I'm not sure if it was Lennon or the Beatles, but as a small.
00:44:31.000 They wrote a song.
00:44:36.000 Uh, silver lining to overall John Lennon.
00:44:38.000 Not that I'm a big Beatles fan, but uh, he wrote a small uh, he wrote a song where he was actually calling out Mao Zedong because the the uh, you know, the Great Leap Forward and stuff happened before their time, and that stuff wasn't widely known, but it had become it was starting to make its way through.
00:44:56.000 And he actually said, you know, he was like, if you're if you're I forget what the lyric was, but it was something like, but if you're if you want to be like Mao, then you know, leave me out of it or something.
00:45:05.000 Part of the reason he hated the Mao, so much is because he was counter signaling everything Nixon did.
00:45:10.000 And at the time, Nixon was like pro, like opening China's markets.
00:45:14.000 So that's one of the main reasons.
00:45:16.000 Nothing to do with the deaths.
00:45:17.000 I mean, maybe.
00:45:18.000 I would pause at John Lennon's greatest moment.
00:45:21.000 There's not many of these, is when he wrote a song called Woman is the N word of the world.
00:45:27.000 JGPT actually did a better job in my opinion.
00:45:29.000 Really?
00:45:30.000 Imagine faith still guides us.
00:45:32.000 It's easy if you try.
00:45:33.000 Our fathers stand behind us, old glory in the sky.
00:45:36.000 Imagine all the people living by their creed.
00:45:38.000 Verse 2 is Imagine loving country.
00:45:40.000 It isn't hard to do.
00:45:41.000 Something to stand and fight for and faith to guide us to.
00:45:44.000 Imagine all the people living proud and free.
00:45:47.000 You may say I'm old fashioned, but I'm not the only one.
00:45:49.000 I hope someday you'll stand with us and our nation will stay strong.
00:45:52.000 Imagine homes and families.
00:45:54.000 I wonder if you can, with fathers, sons, and daughters all doing what they can.
00:45:56.000 Imagine all the people keeping freedom strong.
00:45:59.000 That was, that was, that was not bad, but I still think the last line in Grok kind of cooked there.
00:46:05.000 Oh, Claude literally was just like, here you go.
00:46:08.000 And it just made it the opposite.
00:46:09.000 Oh, really?
00:46:10.000 So it says, remember there's a heaven.
00:46:12.000 It's plain if you would look, a hell beneath us, a judgment. 1.00
00:46:16.000 This song sucks. 0.99
00:46:16.000 A judgment past the sky. 0.99
00:46:18.000 Remember all the fathers kneeling in the frost? 0.85
00:46:21.000 They just literally, like, we're just going to, that sucked. 0.74
00:46:21.000 What? 0.74
00:46:25.000 I'm asking you to rewrite it if John Lennon was a chud. 1.00
00:46:28.000 A little too on those. 1.00
00:46:30.000 You may say I'm a chud, but I'm not the only one. 1.00
00:46:35.000 No, make it rewrite if it was a griper. 1.00
00:46:37.000 Cool.
00:46:38.000 Let's see if it works. 0.99
00:46:40.000 Because then I did, but what if he was an incel chud? 0.99
00:46:44.000 This is where you start to get some magic. 0.98
00:46:46.000 Imagine no hypergamy.
00:46:47.000 It isn't hard to do. 1.00
00:46:49.000 Nothing to simp for and no feminism, too. 1.00
00:46:54.000 Imagine all the people lifting.
00:46:55.000 Lifting in peace, you may say, I'm a chud.
00:46:57.000 I'm not the only one, and Sylvie will join us, and all the chads will be gone.
00:47:01.000 Now, that's a song. 1.00
00:47:03.000 Now, that's a song, the fat chud version. 1.00
00:47:06.000 I would have respected it more if it actually took the real definition of chud and just talked about eating people and living in the sewers. 1.00
00:47:12.000 Cannibalistic humanoid underground. 0.70
00:47:14.000 Imagine no orbiting, I wonder if you can, no need for blue pill cope, just a brotherhood of men.
00:47:19.000 This is fantastic.
00:47:21.000 This is great. 0.96
00:47:21.000 You see, John Lennon, if he was bass, John Lennon, if he wasn't gay. 0.96
00:47:25.000 Yeah. 0.81
00:47:27.000 Yeah, this is a good remix.
00:47:28.000 Yeah, that's a remix.
00:47:29.000 Oh, man.
00:47:30.000 I mean, it's proving that AI actually can be useful.
00:47:33.000 You may say.
00:47:35.000 I told Grok to say, write it as though a red pilled Chad wrote it. 1.00
00:47:38.000 Chad, no, I don't want to hear that crap. 0.99
00:47:41.000 Dude, specifically calling out hypergamy is. 0.99
00:47:43.000 Yeah, that's what we do.
00:47:44.000 That's the most. 1.00
00:47:46.000 Oh, immigration. 1.00
00:47:47.000 Oh, hypergamy is the big issue. 0.99
00:47:48.000 Oh, there's so much.
00:47:50.000 I disagree.
00:47:51.000 I disagree.
00:47:53.000 Mass medication and contraception.
00:47:54.000 Disagree.
00:47:55.000 Hypergamy. 0.99
00:47:56.000 Like, imagine what it would be like, though, if there was no birth control. 1.00
00:47:58.000 There'd be babies everywhere.
00:48:00.000 It'd be terrible. 0.53
00:48:01.000 They'd be running around.
00:48:04.000 They'd be running towards peanuts, and you'd be chasing after them, trying to get them not to eat it because they could choke on it.
00:48:09.000 It'd be over.
00:48:10.000 It'd be over.
00:48:12.000 John Lennon, if you can hear me, please.
00:48:14.000 John Lennon, please save me, John Lennon.
00:48:17.000 He's looking up at you.
00:48:18.000 I got to be honest.
00:48:20.000 It made it serious.
00:48:21.000 This is not funny.
00:48:22.000 My version's not funny.
00:48:23.000 It's just like, imagine a strong country, no bowing before the crowds.
00:48:27.000 I mean, that's still good.
00:48:28.000 Yeah, I know, but it's like if I said red pill jet, it should have been funny or like hypergamy or something.
00:48:32.000 Imagine all the people.
00:48:34.000 I'm going their own way.
00:48:39.000 You may say I'm a chud, but I'm not the only one. 0.84
00:48:44.000 All right, I said, now as if an incel wrote it says, I can make the narrator an exaggerated, terminally online incel character, bitter, self pitying, resentful of dating apps and chads.
00:48:56.000 So, wait, wait, wait.
00:48:57.000 This is funny. 1.00
00:48:58.000 It said, I can make them resentful of chads, but not women as a group. 0.98
00:49:01.000 What? 0.83
00:49:02.000 So, it literally rags on chads.
00:49:05.000 Oh, I got to say, I have never been more proud of the Gen Z and the millennials that are breaking off their girlfriends and engagements now based off of how they responded to the Clancy Clancy.
00:49:19.000 I absolutely do.
00:49:20.000 Oh, dude, if your girlfriend or your fiance is like, yeah, I'm sympathetic to the woman that strangled all three of her kids, breaking up with her is definitely an appropriate way out.
00:49:30.000 That is 100%.
00:49:32.000 Imagine being handsome.
00:49:33.000 It isn't hard for Chad.
00:49:35.000 Nothing but dates on Friday while I'm alone in med.
00:49:38.000 That's just disgusting.
00:49:43.000 There was something that came up.
00:49:45.000 It was like this Reddit chat that I saw.
00:49:46.000 I saw it on YouTube and it was a woman who was like everything you would expect of like an HR, liberal woke HR rep. And she was talking about she was noticing something that had happened differently with the men in her life that she hadn't experienced over the last five years.
00:50:01.000 And it was all of them were now just ignoring her.
00:50:03.000 Every time she would try to engage with a, you know, every time she would try to educate them on the proper way to, you know, she goes, it used to be that we'd get in fights.
00:50:12.000 Like I'd get in fight with the uncle at Thanksgiving or whatnot.
00:50:15.000 Now they literally just look at me like, Okay, cool.
00:50:18.000 And then they just go on.
00:50:19.000 Yeah.
00:50:19.000 All of a sudden, it's this weaponized indifference.
00:50:21.000 And how do I deal with this weaponized indifference?
00:50:23.000 They won't talk to me.
00:50:24.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's, I got bad news.
00:50:27.000 That's because our tribe technically doesn't need your tribe in order to secure like our rights.
00:50:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:50:33.000 I think, I think one of the biggest things that a lot of women, and first of all, I'll say this there's a lot of conservative women that are every bit as pissed with Lindsey Clancy. 1.00
00:50:40.000 Like, yeah. 1.00
00:50:40.000 In my feed, the conservative women is like, this is bizarre. 1.00
00:50:42.000 There's all five of them. 1.00
00:50:44.000 This is bizarre and crazy. 1.00
00:50:45.000 But actually, the real conservative women aren't on the internet. 1.00
00:50:48.000 Well, I don't think that I honestly don't think that women understand what a catalyst moment this is. 0.68
00:50:56.000 There's been a lot of conditions set for young men to just be fed up.
00:51:00.000 This is the one where I don't think they realize you could look back in 20 years and be like, oh, this is where we lost the right to vote.
00:51:08.000 Yeah, literally. 0.96
00:51:08.000 Because the bottom line is as women become more tribal, men are becoming more tribal. 0.96
00:51:14.000 And bad news our tribe doesn't need you to secure our rights. 0.84
00:51:19.000 You need us to help you secure yours.
00:51:21.000 Yep.
00:51:22.000 And people are like, oh, Nick Freitas is advocating.
00:51:24.000 No, I'm not advocating it.
00:51:25.000 I'm telling you, you get tribal to this degree.
00:51:29.000 Yeah.
00:51:29.000 Where not only can you kill our kids in the womb through all nine months of pregnancy, but now you can strangle them on the outside and you're the one that gets sympathy and the husband is to blame.
00:51:40.000 That's where you move men into the screw you phase of the exercise.
00:51:44.000 Yeah, literally.
00:51:45.000 Nick Freitas is like an evil chud because he says you can't slime out your family. 1.00
00:51:50.000 Ridiculous. 0.99
00:51:50.000 I'm one of those old school Christian traditionalists. 0.99
00:51:54.000 Have you guys ever watched the abolitionist rising stuff?
00:51:57.000 Have you ever seen those guys?
00:51:58.000 Yeah.
00:51:58.000 I recommend it.
00:51:59.000 It's really, really good.
00:52:00.000 It's amazing.
00:52:02.000 And my actual favorite ones are when he has real conversations.
00:52:06.000 Yeah.
00:52:07.000 When people are just screaming at him, I'm like, I know, like, I've been there too.
00:52:10.000 And it's like you can't stop watching because he's so calm, like these guys.
00:52:16.000 And the funniest thing about him, and the reason why I love him so much, well, the good conversations are good conversations, but the funny ones are when women will yell, Do you have a uterus? 0.57
00:52:24.000 And then when the woman is with them, they just drop it and they yell anyway. 0.60
00:52:27.000 Like, it would never really matter if the question was about a uterus. 0.80
00:52:27.000 Yeah. 0.80
00:52:30.000 No.
00:52:31.000 You just want to yell.
00:52:31.000 Yes.
00:52:32.000 Yeah. 0.80
00:52:33.000 Yell and throw ice.
00:52:34.000 Okay.
00:52:34.000 We've been saying this for a while.
00:52:37.000 I've been in the woods.
00:52:37.000 Yeah.
00:52:38.000 I think what everyone's missing is that all we need to do as a society is create decoy things to be mad about that don't affect the state of, like, you know, political affairs, economy.
00:52:48.000 What was the point of, like, keeping up with the housewives or whatever?
00:52:51.000 Was like preoccupy the Foyds while the men, like, build rockets and stuff. 1.00
00:52:54.000 And then now they're like, we want to, like, get involved in politics.
00:52:57.000 Who is the comedian?
00:52:59.000 Oh, man.
00:52:59.000 I can't remember.
00:53:00.000 I just blanked on his name, but he got up there and he's like, hey, I'm just saying, with the feminine, you guys, your timing was excellent.
00:53:06.000 It's like for centuries, men were out there when it was like 80% of the occupations were backbreaking labor. 0.99
00:53:12.000 Like, oh, go kill that dinosaur. 0.98
00:53:14.000 You're so strong and brave. 1.00
00:53:15.000 I'm going to go pick berries.
00:53:16.000 As soon as we got air conditioning, it's like, I want equal rights.
00:53:19.000 That's a good point.
00:53:21.000 Well, I mean, in all seriousness. 0.99
00:53:22.000 Most people don't want equal rights because there are no women that are linemen. 1.00
00:53:25.000 They're not working on oil rigs. 1.00
00:53:26.000 You know, there's like one out of every thousand. 0.99
00:53:29.000 This is an important point I like to bring up is that women always complain about the glass ceiling, but they never talk about the glass floor. 1.00
00:53:34.000 No. 0.98
00:53:35.000 And that is that there are guys who are unskilled and have to.
00:53:38.000 I'll put it very simply. 0.98
00:53:40.000 If you're a young man in this country and you're looking for work, you're going to be told to shovel crap. 0.97
00:53:44.000 They're going to say, and use your hands. 0.94
00:53:46.000 And if you're a young woman, they're going to say, how would you like to make $100 every few hours handing sodas to people at a restaurant?
00:53:53.000 Easy, easy, low skilled jobs that pay really well. 1.00
00:53:56.000 But then guys finally, I'll tell you, you know, I think one of the problems how feminism becomes emergent.
00:54:01.000 So you're a young man, life is pretty bad, right?
00:54:06.000 You have no skills, you have low societal value, and you have to learn and earn your skills. 1.00
00:54:10.000 And if you don't, and you become frail and stupid, you're just worthless to people. 1.00
00:54:17.000 So, guys grow up in a muck where it's hard to get work. 1.00
00:54:20.000 The work you get sucks. 0.54
00:54:22.000 You get paid very little. 0.77
00:54:23.000 As time goes on and you get more skills, many men, not all, but many men, start to climb out of the sewers and they make their way up.
00:54:32.000 In their mid 20s, they start getting jobs that pay better and they're like, you know, this is going to be all right.
00:54:36.000 Life's improving as I get better at what I do.
00:54:39.000 And so they work harder and harder.
00:54:40.000 And in their 30s, they're like, you know what?
00:54:42.000 It ain't so bad. 1.00
00:54:44.000 Women, on the other hand, they grow up with maximum social value.
00:54:47.000 And this is not my personal opinion. 0.99
00:54:47.000 Mm hmm. 0.99
00:54:48.000 This is actually research from like Harvard and Yale and stuff.
00:54:51.000 And so when they enter the workforce, they get medium level jobs.
00:54:55.000 They tend to pay more for less work. 1.00
00:54:56.000 I'm not saying women don't work hard. 1.00
00:54:58.000 I'm saying that, you know, I know young dudes who had to literally shuffle manure and they'd get 20 bucks a day.
00:55:05.000 And then, you know, their siblings, the dude's sister worked at a local Italian restaurant and she made 200 bucks working four hours because serving paid better and they don't want to hire men for the most part for entry level server jobs typically.
00:55:18.000 So then these women, They're making 200 bucks working a few hours, or they're getting hired at small shops while the guys are doing the labor stuff.
00:55:26.000 But as time goes on, their social values start to decline. 0.72
00:55:29.000 And this is around, I think the age is around 27 is when the apex, I'm sorry, the inversion happens. 0.74
00:55:36.000 Men at around 27, 28 have equal social value to women, but women have started to decline while men are ascendant. 0.56
00:55:42.000 So now these women are starting to say things like, hey, bad things are starting to happen to me and I don't like it. 0.91
00:55:48.000 And men are starting to say, hey, life's actually not that bad.
00:55:51.000 What happens then in the early 30s when women are now experiencing more hardship because society, and I'm not saying it's right that society treats women this way, but society starts to value men less in their 30s and men more for their skills.
00:56:03.000 The men who are highly tolerant of hardship and don't really care, if you're a guy, you've been in a fight before, you're just like, I'm not going to break a sweat over this.
00:56:15.000 You've been there, done that. 0.53
00:56:17.000 And so when a woman comes up and she's complaining about feminist issues, the guys just say, yeah, yeah, whatever. 0.99
00:56:21.000 I mean, this is ridiculous. 0.96
00:56:23.000 Like, who cares? 0.96
00:56:24.000 Like, I have bigger things to worry about.
00:56:25.000 And so the men start granting more and more to these women who are complaining because the men are just like, these are trivial issues.
00:56:33.000 But eventually, a grain of sand becomes a heap. 0.84
00:56:36.000 And then you have large groups of angry, affluent white female liberals voting for really awful things. 1.00
00:56:41.000 They believe they're oppressed when they're actually privileged and they're angry about it.
00:56:46.000 But guys were just like, you know, I honestly don't care.
00:56:49.000 I've seen worse.
00:56:51.000 And they're not cognizant of what's actually happening as they continually open the door for people who don't really have problems to.
00:56:59.000 To implement policies based on problems that never existed.
00:57:01.000 Well, I think the other problem, and this is, there was a pastor actually that I was just talking to.
00:57:08.000 He's in Birmingham, and he said it best.
00:57:09.000 He goes, You know, Nick, part of the problem is men were lied about and women were lied to.
00:57:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:57:14.000 Yes.
00:57:14.000 I agree with you.
00:57:16.000 It's the whole idea men were told they suck, they're horrible, they're crap, the whole deal. 1.00
00:57:20.000 And women were told they're perfect and they're wonderful and they're great. 1.00
00:57:23.000 And their only flaw is they don't believe in themselves enough, right? 0.99
00:57:25.000 Like that was it.
00:57:27.000 And the problem is, you could not have found a more pernicious, Way to lie to both men and women.
00:57:35.000 Because if your goal is to destroy the family or your goal is just whatever your goal is, that was the best way to do it because it creates the most resentment and animosity between both sides.
00:57:44.000 But I do have to wonder if it's really a bad thing in the long run because while there are bad things happening from it, the strong will survive.
00:57:53.000 Hard times make strong men.
00:57:55.000 And what we end up seeing is, in fact, population is declining, but only those who are really.
00:58:05.000 Trying to succeed.
00:58:07.000 And I know a lot of people are going to say, no, no, Tim, there's a lot of accidental babies.
00:58:10.000 Trust me, with the way the liberals abort, accidental babies are becoming something of the past.
00:58:15.000 And the people who are successfully reproducing, so those who believe in family, want family, think about what that results in in a couple generations.
00:58:22.000 Oh, yeah. 0.92
00:58:23.000 The dominant culture in this country will be traditionalist Christian.
00:58:26.000 If you look at when they polled young men and young women between 18 and 29 who voted for Trump and who voted for Harris, the number one goal of young men who voted for Donald Trump was to have a family.
00:58:36.000 Out of 13 measures of success, I was their number one.
00:58:39.000 It was six for women that voted for Trump.
00:58:41.000 It was 10 for men that voted for Harris.
00:58:43.000 It was 12 out of 13.
00:58:44.000 And the only reason it wasn't 13th is because the 13th was like to be like rich and famous.
00:58:48.000 It was like everyone kind of low key understood, well, I can't answer that.
00:58:51.000 That would make me shush.
00:58:53.000 And so when you look at that, and then you look at the birth rate among liberal women is 0.38, that's unsustainable.
00:59:01.000 And so if the left can't import a population, or, and this is the big problem that I get on to conservatives about, like if you hand your kids over to the left for their education, Then you cannot be surprised when your values are transferred.
00:59:14.000 I mean, this, as I remember when I was a kid going to school, I despised it.
00:59:19.000 I had very few good teachers, a couple that I can shout out that were very good, and most of them were just apathetic, nasty, and it was an awful experience.
00:59:26.000 And, you know, Michael Malice said public schooling is one of the only places outside of prison or juvie where children experience violence.
00:59:36.000 But it's, I mean, it's like a known thing, like schoolyard fight.
00:59:39.000 And I'm thinking about how humans used to raise their kids on the farm together.
00:59:44.000 The kids would be educated by mom for a little bit.
00:59:46.000 Sometimes they're little local schoolhouses and the parents would do teaching.
00:59:50.000 But you grew up on the farm, you learn from mom and dad.
00:59:53.000 If you were the daughter, you learn from mom.
00:59:54.000 You're the son, you learn from dad.
00:59:56.000 And you grew up.
00:59:57.000 So it's fascinating to me when I hear this stuff about how, like, oh, you know, kids rebel.
01:00:01.000 Like, I have people say to me, like, your kid's going to rebel against you and they're going to listen to hip hop and weird stuff.
01:00:05.000 I'm like, no, they're not.
01:00:06.000 Like, it's not going to happen.
01:00:07.000 And, you know, I got into an argument with a guy.
01:00:07.000 Nope.
01:00:10.000 I won't drag him by name, but he was talking about how his kids all did this.
01:00:13.000 And I said, yes, because you gave your kids away to the state.
01:00:15.000 Yeah. 0.83
01:00:16.000 You gave your children at five years old to institutionalized learning facilities run by communists.
01:00:21.000 And then you were surprised a few years later when it's like, my kids are rebelling against me.
01:00:24.000 How come that didn't happen in the 1700s?
01:00:27.000 Yeah.
01:00:28.000 Certainly there were instances where kids would be rebellious against their parents, but blood was always thicker than water.
01:00:33.000 And people stood by their families and their communities to a greater extent.
01:00:36.000 So we homeschooled all three of our kids.
01:00:39.000 They're now 23, 20, and 18.
01:00:41.000 And whenever people ask me about homeschooling, because you always get the quote, what about socialization?
01:00:45.000 What about that?
01:00:45.000 What about this?
01:00:47.000 There's one thing I like to lead in with.
01:00:48.000 I'm like, teenagers were the easiest.
01:00:51.000 And they're like, what?
01:00:53.000 I'm like, yeah, teenage years were the easiest.
01:00:55.000 Like, why?
01:00:55.000 Because they should be.
01:00:57.000 When your kid's an infant, they can't do anything for themselves.
01:01:00.000 That's hard.
01:01:01.000 When they're a toddler, they're constantly trying to kill themselves.
01:01:03.000 That's hard.
01:01:04.000 And then they get into being teenagers.
01:01:06.000 And what happens?
01:01:06.000 Now I can have rational conversations with them.
01:01:09.000 And oh, by the way, they see mom and dad as an educator.
01:01:13.000 Why?
01:01:14.000 Because I've never stopped being an educator from the time they were little to the time they're now.
01:01:17.000 Now, does that mean I was the only educator in their life?
01:01:20.000 No.
01:01:20.000 There were other educators.
01:01:21.000 There were other people that contributed to their learning and knowledge and wisdom.
01:01:25.000 But I never sent them to a place where all of a sudden in their minds they're thinking, this government expert is the one that teaches me, and mom and dad just provide food, clothing, and shelter.
01:01:35.000 So, therefore, when the teacher tells me something that contradicts with mom and dad, I go with the teacher because they're the expert, right?
01:01:41.000 I just want to point something out.
01:01:42.000 You remember the show Rugrats?
01:01:44.000 Yes.
01:01:44.000 Just in the context, they're saying toddlers are trying to kill themselves.
01:01:49.000 Tommy had a screwdriver under his pillow hidden so that he could pop the latch on the play place.
01:01:57.000 And I'm just thinking to myself, like, first of all, the things that poor child would carry around that screwdriver.
01:02:01.000 But let's just imagine he doesn't kill himself with a screwdriver.
01:02:04.000 He pops the latch open.
01:02:05.000 The first thing he's going to do is he's going to waddle over to a peanut left on the ground, a half peanut, and he's going to put it in his mouth, inhale it, and then just collapse.
01:02:11.000 And the parents are going to be like, How did he get out?
01:02:13.000 Why did he have a screwdriver?
01:02:14.000 I got to be honest, if the Rugrats show was in real life, those parents would have those kids taken away from them.
01:02:20.000 They're like breaking out of the house and walking around the neighborhood. 1.00
01:02:24.000 Just Gen X kids. 1.00
01:02:25.000 What are you doing? 1.00
01:02:27.000 Yeah, it's true.
01:02:28.000 I mean, my kid is getting into the Tyler, just about Tyler face.
01:02:31.000 He's almost a year.
01:02:33.000 And every day I'm trying to take something, some foreign object out of his mouth.
01:02:38.000 They're always trying to blow stuff up with the power outlets. 0.93
01:02:41.000 Crazy.
01:02:41.000 Yeah.
01:02:42.000 And he'll try and stick his finger in the.
01:02:45.000 There's a Cat 5 in the house.
01:02:47.000 I'm not sure why they put it in there.
01:02:48.000 But, anyways, he's trying to stick his finger in the Cat 5.
01:02:50.000 And I'm like, no.
01:02:51.000 And then he looks at me and goes, boys, dude.
01:02:55.000 I'm like, bro.
01:02:56.000 My son, my son, I came back from my second tour.
01:02:59.000 And my son, we hear this crash upstairs.
01:03:01.000 I go running upstairs.
01:03:02.000 And my son had literally been climbing up a dresser.
01:03:05.000 And it was like the one thing we hadn't anchored to the wall, right?
01:03:08.000 And not only does it fall back on him, but there's like this rocking chair.
01:03:11.000 So the back of his head hits wood there.
01:03:13.000 His head splits over, spinal fluid coming out.
01:03:15.000 I'm rushing over to the hospital.
01:03:17.000 This is bad for like three days.
01:03:18.000 We're not sure if he's going to make it.
01:03:20.000 And then by like day four or five, he's good.
01:03:23.000 He's good and he's through the thick of it.
01:03:24.000 And we're all just, so we're in the hospital for a couple of weeks or whatnot or whatever it was.
01:03:29.000 And then we come home.
01:03:31.000 And by this time, we've got everything anchored, right?
01:03:34.000 We come home.
01:03:35.000 He starts to climb something.
01:03:36.000 I'm like, what are you doing?
01:03:39.000 And this kid looks at me and goes, what?
01:03:42.000 I'm like, how old was he when that happened?
01:03:46.000 Oh, he was like three.
01:03:47.000 Oh, it was like three years.
01:03:49.000 Because if he did that again, you just got to bill him for that.
01:03:51.000 Yeah, you know, like talking about the birth rate of women and stuff, part of me is just there is a visceral anger that I have towards the political interests that have convinced women not to have children.
01:04:05.000 Yeah.
01:04:06.000 Because I mean, like any, the thing, like what these young men miss out on because they were convinced not to have kids is like ripping one of the greatest experiences of life away from them and tricking them into thinking it was the right thing to do.
01:04:22.000 As if, I'm going to be honest, as if being a 35 year old woman partying at the club and getting drunk is in any way near the joy of having a child.
01:04:31.000 No. 1.00
01:04:32.000 Well, there was some gal posted this out. 0.64
01:04:35.000 I can't remember her name, but she goes, you know, they told us that we could wait.
01:04:38.000 They told us that kids can wait and then sold it back to us at $25,000 a pop.
01:04:42.000 Yeah.
01:04:43.000 Oh, man.
01:04:43.000 It's like, dang.
01:04:44.000 Unreal.
01:04:45.000 And it's true.
01:04:47.000 But again, none of this has to be.
01:04:49.000 So, like, my youngest daughter, my youngest daughter, she was growing up.
01:04:52.000 This is another thing I love about homeschools. 0.61
01:04:54.000 When she got into middle school and high school, we're not talking about the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
01:04:59.000 We're like, hey, you probably need to be thinking about what do you want to do with your life and what sort of things do you want to advocate.
01:05:05.000 And she goes, she's going through and she's like, you know, I think I really want to be a veterinarian.
01:05:08.000 We're like, okay.
01:05:10.000 This is a difficult field.
01:05:11.000 There's very few universities.
01:05:12.000 You got to work really hard.
01:05:13.000 You need straight A's.
01:05:14.000 There is no, I got to be here.
01:05:15.000 You need straight A's.
01:05:16.000 You got to do internships.
01:05:17.000 And so we're going through this whole process of doing it.
01:05:18.000 And she gets into about her sophomore year of high school.
01:05:22.000 And she comes in one day and she goes, Dad, I've done the math on the veterinary thing.
01:05:27.000 She goes, I think I'm going to go to vet tech school, which is like a two year associate's degree.
01:05:31.000 I said, Okay, well, I mean, why?
01:05:33.000 I mean, don't back out because it's hard.
01:05:34.000 Why do you not want to do this?
01:05:35.000 She goes, Well, she goes, It's going to cost me about $250,000, probably.
01:05:39.000 It's going to be at least, at least minimum six years of school.
01:05:42.000 That means I get out, I'm around, you know, 24, 25.
01:05:46.000 She goes, Then I really got to be in practice because I got to be making money because I got to pay off $250,000 in student loans and all this other stuff.
01:05:52.000 And she goes, When am I?
01:05:54.000 Like, when am I really raising my kids?
01:05:56.000 She goes, So, if I do vet tech, I can now get into the field.
01:05:59.000 I can do the things that I love.
01:06:00.000 I can be a wife and mother.
01:06:01.000 I can actually have kids in my early, mid 20s, which is when I want to have them.
01:06:05.000 I can homeschool.
01:06:06.000 I can do all these other things.
01:06:07.000 And then, oh, by the way, I can still work in this field and I can still be entrepreneurial.
01:06:11.000 And if I want to become a veterinarian later, I can.
01:06:14.000 I can't have it.
01:06:15.000 It's going to be a lot more difficult to have kids later than it is to become a veterinarian later.
01:06:19.000 Yeah.
01:06:19.000 And I'm like, That all makes sense to me.
01:06:23.000 And the thing is, is that if she were in a public school, I promise you, teachers, counselors, everyone would be lining her up to be like, no, Don't prioritize being a wife and mother.
01:06:36.000 You need to prioritize this.
01:06:38.000 And people will tell me that that's hyperbolic. 0.94
01:06:41.000 Simone, back to Simone de Beauvoir, was in a debate, prominent feminist in the 70s, was in a debate.
01:06:46.000 And she actually said, women should not be allowed to be wives and mothers because if we allowed that to be an option, too many of them would choose it and it would disrupt the revolution.
01:06:56.000 Yep. 0.93
01:06:57.000 And then society ceases to function and humanity ceases to exist.
01:06:59.000 Yes.
01:07:00.000 You know, and that's the funny thing too.
01:07:01.000 They do argue, have your kids later, freeze your eggs.
01:07:05.000 All of it's nonsense.
01:07:06.000 You know, that story, I'm sure you saw AOC freezing her eggs, right?
01:07:11.000 We did the math on the show and we went over the in vitro success rates, right?
01:07:14.000 So she's, how old is she? 0.63
01:07:15.000 She's 37.
01:07:16.000 Yeah, late 30s.
01:07:18.000 She's 37, I think, right?
01:07:20.000 I think she's 37, yeah. 0.55
01:07:21.000 Let's double check AOC age.
01:07:23.000 I think she's 37, right? 0.55
01:07:24.000 She's 36.
01:07:25.000 Okay.
01:07:26.000 So what's the point of freezing her eggs? 0.98
01:07:28.000 Is she going to have a child in two years? 0.95
01:07:31.000 Okay, well, then she doesn't need to.
01:07:32.000 Is she going to have a child when she's 42?
01:07:35.000 Okay, well, the success rate there is about 7% or less.
01:07:38.000 It's not going to work.
01:07:39.000 So, really, there is no such thing as you can freeze your eggs and have it later because the success rate in vitro is single digits at 42 plus.
01:07:49.000 Single digits. 0.97
01:07:51.000 If women have children at the traditional adult age, like mid, early, mid 20s, then by the time your kids, like your kids, you would know better than I.
01:08:02.000 So, let's, for people out there who don't have kids, At what age do the children still need guidance, but they become largely self sufficient?
01:08:09.000 When they get into like 11, 12, depending on maturity level, girls mature a little bit faster.
01:08:09.000 Oh, God.
01:08:14.000 Boys are still trying to kill themselves with that.
01:08:17.000 But no. 0.95
01:08:17.000 Right? 0.95
01:08:18.000 I don't know if that ever stops.
01:08:19.000 11, 12, like our kids were cooking dinner and doing laundry and schoolwork.
01:08:24.000 So now, you know, let's say.
01:08:26.000 Especially when you reward maturity.
01:08:28.000 Oh, yeah. 0.86
01:08:29.000 Let's say a woman's 24 years old, you know, maybe a little late traditionally, but around 24 seems to be okay.
01:08:35.000 And so by the time she's 35, 34, she's.
01:08:39.000 Back on track with the career for the most part.
01:08:40.000 Kids are largely self sufficient.
01:08:42.000 You can sometimes get babysitters, but you know, you got good kids, you raised them.
01:08:46.000 Now you've got 40 plus years for anything you want to do, and you had kids.
01:08:50.000 And if you wait, the risk to the kids is greater, and then there's a risk you can't even have kids.
01:08:54.000 Yeah.
01:08:55.000 When, and you're probably going to have fewer.
01:08:57.000 And that's, and that's the other thing too.
01:08:59.000 They say the hardest number of kids to have is three, which is how many I have.
01:09:02.000 I'm the oldest of nine.
01:09:03.000 Woo!
01:09:04.000 The, what's, I know, is a real slacker, real disappointment, my Catholic father. 0.87
01:09:09.000 But, but yeah, it's one of those things where the more kids you have, the more they start to help one another and, you know, contribute and do all these things.
01:09:16.000 And so you really become what a family unit is supposed to be.
01:09:20.000 And family, there's a guy named Jeremy Pryor.
01:09:23.000 He has this thing he does called family teams.
01:09:25.000 And one of the big things he talks about is the Western concept of the family doesn't make a great deal of sense because it really is kind of a temporary structure.
01:09:33.000 You find a girl, you get married, you have kids, you raise them early teens, you kick them out.
01:09:37.000 And then by that, and when you have the kids, right, your entire life is the kids. 1.00
01:09:41.000 It's 14 soccer practices and ballet recitals and everything else.
01:09:44.000 The marriage doesn't mean anything anymore.
01:09:45.000 It's all about getting the kids in a good school. 0.73
01:09:47.000 Why? 0.99
01:09:48.000 So they can become gay, race, communists, and you can ride your friends. 0.98
01:09:51.000 So that's what it is. 0.99
01:09:52.000 And then.
01:09:52.000 By that time, you've fallen out of love with your wife, and you guys don't relate anymore because your whole life revolves around the kids, and then you golf and whatever.
01:10:00.000 She drinks wine with her friends and complains about you.
01:10:03.000 And he was saying, or imagine a world where on Sunday dinner, great grandpas and great grandmas at the end of the table, and little Billy and little Susie are at this side of the table, and you are watching four generations sit there and have a conversation, knowing what the roles they play through each generation looks like.
01:10:21.000 Man, I want that.
01:10:24.000 He goes, Yeah, every man does because men like to focus on building things of permanence.
01:10:28.000 Do you remember when Chelsea Handler made that video that went super viral?
01:10:31.000 And she was like, I wake up in the morning, I do drugs, I myself, and then I'm super happy.
01:10:36.000 I go back to bed, wake up. 0.87
01:10:38.000 You know, a bunch of conservatives came out and they said they insulted her. 1.00
01:10:41.000 Ben Shapiro said, That woman is miserable. 1.00
01:10:43.000 She is absolutely miserable. 1.00
01:10:45.000 And like she responded, I didn't say that. 0.99
01:10:48.000 I made a video where I said, I think Chelsea Handler is probably happier than a pig in ish. 1.00
01:10:53.000 I mean, she wakes up, she's rich, she does whatever she wants. 1.00
01:10:57.000 She just, I'll tell you this though, she can go out and she can buy whatever she wants now. 0.96
01:11:01.000 She can get a nice limo, she can fly anywhere in the world. 0.96
01:11:03.000 She's going to be 77 years old.
01:11:05.000 She's going to be in the hospital in this white room.
01:11:09.000 The doctor's going to walk in and say, Miss Andler, I'm sorry, but it's terminal.
01:11:14.000 Is there someone you'd like me to call?
01:11:16.000 And she's going to go, No.
01:11:18.000 And he's going to say, Well, press the button if you need us.
01:11:21.000 And then she's going to sit there as she slowly dies, staring at the wall.
01:11:24.000 Or if she had a family, She could be in the hospital and the doctor comes in with a chart, and her children and grandchildren are all there crying, scared.
01:11:33.000 And she smiles and says, It's okay, everybody.
01:11:36.000 I know that you'll carry on without me.
01:11:38.000 And I lived my life the best I could, and all I needed was you.
01:11:41.000 And then they're going to hug her and say goodbye, grandma.
01:11:44.000 And then as she passes on with a smile on her face, it's still very sad.
01:11:48.000 Maybe she's sick, maybe it's unpleasant, but she knows that as she leaves, everything she built is standing there before her to carry on her legacy.
01:11:57.000 So, you know.
01:11:59.000 I saw that story and I was like, she's happy now.
01:12:01.000 Drugs make you happy.
01:12:03.000 But I could not imagine a worse hell to impose on someone than sitting in a hospital.
01:12:09.000 There's a, I can't remember what the story was from.
01:12:11.000 It might have been like Donnie Darko, where he talks about how his dog, I think it was Donnie Darko, one day went missing and they couldn't find it.
01:12:19.000 He went, yeah, I think pretty sure it's Donnie Darko.
01:12:20.000 And then they found the dog head, went under the porch to die alone.
01:12:24.000 And it's like, this is what people do.
01:12:25.000 And I've always just thought that is like, that is.
01:12:29.000 The most extreme torture I could think of.
01:12:33.000 Sitting there, fading out, no one cares about you.
01:12:38.000 You've left nothing behind.
01:12:40.000 Just congratulations, you worked real hard, I suppose, and you made some people laugh.
01:12:44.000 But by the time she's nearing the great beyond, no one's going to remember who she is.
01:12:52.000 Well, did you ever see that interview Jordan Peterson was doing with a girl?
01:12:58.000 She said she was 38.
01:12:59.000 And she goes, What do you say to me?
01:13:01.000 I'm single and I almost feel a little bit blessed.
01:13:03.000 Because I'm 38 and I don't have to deal with all the things that I see my friends struggling with, with kids and all these other things.
01:13:09.000 And Jordan Peterson was just in typical Jordan Peterson form, very nice.
01:13:13.000 He goes, Well, he goes, You know, you've had a very filling career.
01:13:15.000 He goes, I've also had a filling and interesting career.
01:13:18.000 And he goes, and that I'm sure that it's something that brings you a lot of joy and meaning.
01:13:24.000 He goes, but I have found that the older I get, the more family relationships mean to me.
01:13:30.000 And he talks about, and he basically talked about something very similar to you.
01:13:34.000 And I think about this now as a man who is probably relatively soon going to be a grandfather.
01:13:40.000 And I now get to go because when you have kids, you're, I mean, you were just running around trying to make everything work and the trains all run on time and your kids are fine and the whole deal.
01:13:52.000 And so there's stuff that you miss.
01:13:54.000 You get to see a lot of stuff.
01:13:55.000 There's stuff that you miss.
01:13:56.000 And somebody once told me, like, oh, Nick, being a grandparent's great because you get to watch your kids grow up a second time.
01:14:04.000 But this time you've actually got the time to really experience.
01:14:06.000 Yeah, now you're chilling.
01:14:08.000 And I was thinking about the first time when I came home from Iraq in 2006.
01:14:16.000 And I took my kids to Disneyland for the first time.
01:14:21.000 And I'm watching my oldest daughter.
01:14:23.000 My son was really, really young, so he doesn't even remember.
01:14:25.000 But my.
01:14:26.000 Oldest daughter, she had watched the Disney movies and the whole deal.
01:14:31.000 And when she, we watched Mickey defeat the dragon and all the fire comes in.
01:14:37.000 And for all, for my little girl, I'm watching it, everything's real.
01:14:41.000 That's a real dragon.
01:14:42.000 That is really Mickey.
01:14:43.000 And Mickey is really saving her from that dragon.
01:14:46.000 And the next day, she is just, she sees Mickey and it's like, you saved me.
01:14:51.000 Like she, but you were just watching this most wholesome experience.
01:14:56.000 As she's getting to see all of this, and I'm getting to see that I'm the observer to it, and it's like, man, that's an incredible experience.
01:15:04.000 I mean, here I am like 20 years later saying, man, there was this one time at Disneyland.
01:15:10.000 You know, I have a handful of friends, they're all middle aged and they're single with no kids.
01:15:14.000 And, you know, a couple of my buddies are like, oh, I'm just feeling down, you know, like, I don't know, I'm bored, I don't know what I'm doing, and like, I've been depressed.
01:15:23.000 And I said, yeah, it's because you're middle aged and you've got no family and no kids.
01:15:27.000 And I put it like this, you know, when I was a young man, I wanted to see everything.
01:15:32.000 And so I got jobs where I traveled around the world and I went to various countries and I went on crazy adventures and I witnessed history in some circumstances.
01:15:39.000 All of that was so amazing.
01:15:41.000 And then into my early 30s, you know, we're starting all this business and everything's exciting and new and we're goofing off.
01:15:46.000 And this is really the peak of like, I have done it all.
01:15:49.000 You know, I built a skate park.
01:15:51.000 And then it's boring.
01:15:53.000 You know, I don't know how many more.
01:15:55.000 It's nice to go to countries that I want to go to.
01:15:59.000 It would be nice to go to Barcelona again and have some nice squid croquettes and, you know, whatever it may be.
01:16:04.000 But I've done those things.
01:16:06.000 And now, you know, I'm an older dad.
01:16:10.000 I mean, I just had a kid recently.
01:16:12.000 So I recommend people have their kids younger, younger than I did.
01:16:15.000 But when people ask me questions about, do you want to go to this country?
01:16:21.000 It's more so, what do I want to do for my daughter?
01:16:23.000 Yeah.
01:16:23.000 And I'm having more fun with that.
01:16:26.000 It's, you know, I kind of feel like when you're younger, everything's more vibrantly colored and everything tastes sweeter.
01:16:34.000 And as you get older, it's like, I got to be honest, it's my 12,000th pizza.
01:16:39.000 I mean, I gotta be honest, it's probably more than that.
01:16:40.000 I'd imagine we've eaten substantially more pizza than that.
01:16:42.000 At a certain point, you're like, yeah, pizza's good.
01:16:44.000 Yeah.
01:16:44.000 But when you, you know, give ice cream to your kid for the very first time, it's like having ice cream for the first time all over again.
01:16:50.000 Yeah.
01:16:51.000 When, you know, I don't wanna get too personal with my family stuff or the fun stuff we do, because I'll keep that stuff private.
01:16:57.000 But, you know, the videos where they give the kid the lemon and then, you know.
01:17:00.000 Best thing ever, man.
01:17:02.000 Yeah, it's the most mundane thing in the world to me to bite on a lemon.
01:17:05.000 I don't care.
01:17:06.000 But when you're doing it with your kid for the first time, it's like doing it all over again.
01:17:06.000 Yeah.
01:17:10.000 But so I say this to the people who haven't started their families. 0.73
01:17:14.000 I get worried because I think, you know, these middle aged guys that, and they don't want to have kids. 0.98
01:17:19.000 It's not like they're not trying.
01:17:19.000 Don't get me wrong.
01:17:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:17:21.000 It's really difficult in the modern society and culture.
01:17:24.000 But I'm like, I think the reason why you guys are feeling listless, bored, depressed is because the human body is built for, at this point, you are expecting to be a grandparent and you haven't even had your first kid yet.
01:17:36.000 So you're largely bored with all the stuff you've done.
01:17:38.000 You've been to the bar now for the 8,000th time, you've pulled a slot lever for the 50,000th time, you've had your 50th.
01:17:44.000 Chicken wing, 50,000th chicken wing.
01:17:47.000 Normally, for human beings, you would have raised kids and now you'd be excited to see the next generation, your grandkids in your mid 40s.
01:17:55.000 It's wild to think you'd be in your mid 40s, you'd be a grandparent.
01:17:59.000 I was married at 19.
01:18:02.000 I will probably be a grandparent in my 40s.
01:18:05.000 Very confident of that.
01:18:06.000 And someone asked me, like, you know, what's your next life goal?
01:18:08.000 I said, I want to climb trees with my great grandchildren.
01:18:12.000 Oh, man.
01:18:12.000 That's my goal.
01:18:13.000 I want to climb trees with my great grandchildren.
01:18:15.000 Well, if you think about it, it was not out of the question for a 20 year old woman to have a child 100, 200 years ago.
01:18:25.000 And so, mom is now 40.
01:18:27.000 Daughter is 20, had her first kid.
01:18:29.000 So, grandma's 40.
01:18:30.000 Then, 20 years go by.
01:18:32.000 Now, great grandma is 60.
01:18:34.000 Mom is 40.
01:18:35.000 Daughter is 20, had her first kid.
01:18:37.000 Great grandma is 80.
01:18:38.000 They're all hanging out in the same house having dinner together, and she grew up with great grandma.
01:18:41.000 Yeah.
01:18:42.000 And now we just delay it longer and longer for a variety of reasons.
01:18:46.000 I do think the economic crisis.
01:18:48.000 You know, 2008 played a massive role in this.
01:18:50.000 For me, I mean, I was sleeping on floors.
01:18:52.000 What was I going to do, you know?
01:18:53.000 Yeah.
01:18:56.000 But I think the biggest crisis is the men have been lied about, women have been lied to, because you look at poor countries, they have a ton of kids.
01:19:02.000 Yeah.
01:19:02.000 Right.
01:19:02.000 I think so.
01:19:03.000 I think the economics factors into it.
01:19:04.000 I think the expectations associated with the sort of life you have to provide.
01:19:08.000 But there's something to be I'll put it this way in America, we talk a lot about our freedoms, and freedoms are great.
01:19:13.000 I want freedoms.
01:19:14.000 I want to live in a free country.
01:19:16.000 But the things that give me the most meaning in my life are my responsibilities.
01:19:19.000 That's something that is super important.
01:19:21.000 It's one of the things that I really.
01:19:23.000 Really don't like about the Libertarian Party is they talk about liberty and they never talk about the corresponding responsibility because every liberty that you have, all freedoms that you enjoy come with a responsibility.
01:19:37.000 And people don't talk about responsibility enough.
01:19:39.000 We live in a society that wants to avoid responsibility as much as possible.
01:19:43.000 I think that's true.
01:19:44.000 But the thing that I specifically mean here, because 100% agree with that, my first career, my first career out of high school, afforded me the opportunity to know what it's like to think you're about to die.
01:19:58.000 And in that moment, I was not thinking about my freedoms.
01:20:02.000 No.
01:20:02.000 I'm thinking about my wife.
01:20:04.000 I'm thinking about my kids.
01:20:06.000 I'm thinking about all the things that essentially take away my freedom, but in the best way possible because I have responsibilities to them, but they give me a sense that my faith gives me a sense of identity, purpose, and meaning that cannot be replaced with anything else.
01:20:20.000 Let's jump to news.
01:20:21.000 We've got this from ABC7.
01:20:23.000 Oh, man.
01:20:24.000 Leftist streamer Hassan Piker mocks Charlie Kirk during a live show.
01:20:28.000 This video is.
01:20:31.000 Absolutely insane to watch.
01:20:36.000 There is evil.
01:20:37.000 That's all I can say.
01:20:38.000 Let's play the video here.
01:20:40.000 Hassan.
01:20:41.000 Excuse me.
01:21:26.000 So you can see he also posted, carried the flame tonight.
01:21:38.000 And he's wearing a communist uniform suit. 0.86
01:21:41.000 These people are overt evil.
01:21:45.000 Lauren Chen says Hassan met Charlie many times. 0.77
01:21:45.000 Overt evil. 0.77
01:21:48.000 I was on a panel with them at Politicon.
01:21:49.000 They were fire in stage, but jovial and amicable with each other once it was done.
01:21:52.000 Charlie would have mourned Hassan had he been shot.
01:21:55.000 Hassan, on the other hand, chooses to mock.
01:21:57.000 I don't think mockery is necessarily the right word.
01:21:59.000 I would say he's celebrating Charlie's death.
01:22:01.000 He's on stage singing a song to deride the life of Charlie Kirk while everyone cheers for it.
01:22:07.000 I think that is celebrating in the death of Charlie Kirk.
01:22:10.000 No, it is.
01:22:11.000 I remember I told somebody once, Charlie getting murdered didn't change everything for me.
01:22:16.000 Watching the left react for it, that's what changed everything for me.
01:22:20.000 And that's where I first realized, like, okay, you guys are not my fellow countrymen.
01:22:23.000 Nope.
01:22:24.000 You are my enemies. 0.89
01:22:26.000 You are my enemies. 0.76
01:22:27.000 Yep.
01:22:28.000 And that's what shifted.
01:22:29.000 The Speaker of the House in Virginia and I had a bit of an online fight about it.
01:22:32.000 And he was like, well, that can't be true.
01:22:34.000 Like, what do you mean?
01:22:36.000 Show me how it's not true.
01:22:38.000 Show me how it's not true.
01:22:40.000 Absolutely can be true.
01:22:42.000 And it is.
01:22:42.000 Yes.
01:22:42.000 And it is.
01:22:44.000 The people that are talking about violent revolution, which Hassan Piker doesn't specifically, well, he actually might have specifically said it at some point on his streams.
01:22:56.000 He streams a lot.
01:22:57.000 But they're not actually talking about the Fabian socialists where they gain power by being voted in.
01:23:09.000 They want to get enough power to protect themselves in order to carry out violence.
01:23:15.000 Yeah.
01:23:15.000 Because that's how you would actually get the rest of society to not push back.
01:23:21.000 If you can be violent, which was happening during the summer of the Black Lives Matter riots, they were allowed to be violent and the rest of society couldn't do anything back. 0.83
01:23:33.000 You looked at it, whether or not, you know, whether whoever it was, you look at the Proud Boys, right? 0.85
01:23:37.000 Regardless of what you feel about, regardless of what your opinion is on the Proud Boys, they were the pushback and the cops always went after them.
01:23:47.000 Mm hmm.
01:23:48.000 And so then the normal people were like, you know, people that weren't engaging in either, you know, violence or trying to push back on it.
01:23:55.000 They're like, well, it's clear what'll happen to me if I try to fight back.
01:24:01.000 I can't defend myself.
01:24:02.000 The guy that someone shot into his house and he shot at someone or something like that in somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, he got a, or no, I think he brandished a weapon.
01:24:11.000 They were walking by and he brandished a weapon.
01:24:13.000 And the police came and arrested him for brandishing a weapon at a protest.
01:24:16.000 It's like, you know, clearly.
01:24:20.000 What will happen to you if you try to respond to violence carried out on you with equal force?
01:24:29.000 The police are going to come and they're going to arrest you.
01:24:32.000 You see this most clearly.
01:24:33.000 And you want to talk about a country I think it's still several years ahead of us, but not that far.
01:24:37.000 It's the UK.
01:24:39.000 This is what happens when you have, again, you have a political elite that hates their own culture and country.
01:24:45.000 You have a political elite that is, you have a police force that is more terrified of being called racist than anything else.
01:24:51.000 And how many times do we got to see the?
01:24:54.000 It's no longer a meme anymore, but how long do we got to see it where, again, you know, you'll have an immigrant trying to chop off somebody's head in the middle of the street, and the police seem more concerned with the people that tweet about it afterwards.
01:25:09.000 And there's no question that if the same sort of people reached a critical mass in the United States, they would do it because they already do do it in the places for which they think they have enough control, like Minneapolis. 0.64
01:25:18.000 They don't do it in rural Tennessee.
01:25:21.000 They're not going to do it in West Virginia.
01:25:22.000 They're probably not going to do it in West Virginia.
01:25:24.000 They're probably not going to do it in Florida.
01:25:25.000 They're probably not going to do it in New Hampshire.
01:25:29.000 But these places are becoming fewer and fewer where you can actually defend yourself and protect your rights.
01:25:35.000 Well, the other big thing too is we have guns.
01:25:37.000 Like in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, I was talking to somebody.
01:25:40.000 I was sharing an experience during the BLM riots.
01:25:42.000 I said, Well, you know, in Culpeper, Virginia, I was there.
01:25:45.000 I didn't participate in the protest.
01:25:47.000 I was there and I had two things I had a med bag and I had my gun.
01:25:50.000 Yep.
01:25:51.000 Why?
01:25:51.000 Because the moment anybody started breaking down or burning buildings in our town, we weren't going to allow that to happen.
01:25:58.000 And I was not alone. 0.63
01:25:59.000 And they're like, You know, funny, you should say that in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, people line the streets with ARs.
01:26:07.000 Yeah.
01:26:07.000 With right, like all these, these right, like, no, no, no, you can protest, you can yell, you can scream, you can be mad all day long, you can do whatever you want.
01:26:13.000 The moment you start throwing bricks or burning down our city, yeah, right, we're not going to put up with that.
01:26:20.000 And guess what?
01:26:21.000 Nobody burned down Coeur d'Alene.
01:26:22.000 Well, I mean, that's why the Rittenhouse situation was really ultimately the referendum on how we were to sort of operate in this situation because Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, they had the numbers, but Rittenhouse was effectively, I mean, I know there was other people in the area, but he was kind of the ultimate making an example out of him, right?
01:26:38.000 That was the left attempting to make an example out of him because, again, if they were to.
01:26:42.000 Be able to sort of make whatever he did unacceptable or beyond the pale or whatever, then to be open season on everyone.
01:26:49.000 So, I mean, I kind of look back at that moment and Rittenhouse really was.
01:26:52.000 That's why everything sort of centered around that.
01:26:54.000 That's why the Rittenhouse case became the apex because that was ultimately the referendum on are we allowed to defend our communities or not?
01:27:03.000 I mean, that was quite literally what the debate was about.
01:27:05.000 Thankfully, we won and that bought us some time.
01:27:08.000 To your point, you look over in the UK where the Henry Novak case is the ultimate.
01:27:12.000 I mean, look, if you set a bunch of right wingers around and we're like, okay, what would be the most extreme, you know.
01:27:16.000 Parody of the UK, it would be that in which, you know, fresh in everyone's, you know, a jog everyone's memory, quite literally was stabbed by a Sikh immigrant or child of immigrants.
01:27:28.000 And then the immigrant's brother called the police and said he used a racial slur, Henry Novak's on the ground dying.
01:27:35.000 And they called him.
01:27:35.000 He stabbed me.
01:27:36.000 Yeah.
01:27:36.000 And he's like, he stabbed me.
01:27:37.000 I don't think you have, mate.
01:27:38.000 And then they cuffed him.
01:27:39.000 I mean, quite literally, if we all sat around the table like, you know, a year ago and were like, let's parody the UK, let's think about something to prompt Grok.
01:27:46.000 We would have come up with that.
01:27:47.000 And that literally happened.
01:27:49.000 And then everyone in the United States gets all, you know, there's this tough guy routine.
01:27:52.000 Like, that's Britain.
01:27:53.000 Dude, that's like five, 10 years ahead if we're not careful, you know.
01:27:56.000 And the guns aren't going to save you because they can take them away at any point.
01:27:59.000 It's like it can buy us time and it can help us the local level, but this is a battle for power.
01:28:05.000 Like, there's only so much you can do as an individual.
01:28:07.000 It's a battle over the levers here.
01:28:10.000 If we started seeing policing in the United States to the degree that they do in the UK, where they arrest people for social media, ain't nobody pulling a gun on a cop.
01:28:17.000 No.
01:28:17.000 Exactly.
01:28:17.000 That's not going to happen.
01:28:18.000 It's all a tough guy routine online.
01:28:19.000 I'm like, we saw this during COVID and no one did anything.
01:28:22.000 Well, we elected Trump.
01:28:24.000 That bought us some time, but this is a we're talking about the direction of our civilization, right?
01:28:31.000 We're not talking about what's happening in my community.
01:28:33.000 We're talking about Western civilization writ large, is ultimately what we're battling over right now.
01:28:37.000 You're absolutely correct.
01:28:38.000 There's no such thing like this idea that revolutions happen because the people have just had enough.
01:28:42.000 No, there's always an elite that leads a revolution, always everywhere, every single time, if it's going to be successful.
01:28:49.000 Correct.
01:28:51.000 Now, I think there's two things in the United States that.
01:28:54.000 Put us in a much better position than say the UK is at.
01:28:57.000 One is we actually have federalism to some degree.
01:28:59.000 True.
01:29:00.000 Life in Tennessee is very different than life in California.
01:29:00.000 Right?
01:29:04.000 Values are very different in Tennessee than values in California.
01:29:08.000 The other thing is it is the guns.
01:29:10.000 There is an amazing amount of power that it gives you, not because you have to shoot someone, but just because the possibility exists.
01:29:17.000 I mean, it's, and I want to point out, like, I understand what you're saying and you're not wrong, but you can look back as recently as I don't remember what year it was, but it was during the Obama administration, the Bureau from Land Management.
01:29:28.000 Standoff.
01:29:29.000 That was a real thing.
01:29:30.000 And so, like, I understand, like, it is true that, like, people really laid down for COVID.
01:29:36.000 But during the Obama administration, a boatload of dudes got up on a bridge and pointed guns at federal agents.
01:29:44.000 But if we're in a doomsday situation, those guys will be exceptions to the norm.
01:29:48.000 I mean, we saw this happen.
01:29:49.000 No, I understand what you're saying.
01:29:51.000 But, like, I agree.
01:29:52.000 There will be skirmishes.
01:29:53.000 I disagree.
01:29:54.000 And the reason I disagree is because you, like, and I know that people might, you know, maybe this sounds a little boomerish, but, like, if you look at the way, That the original revolution started.
01:30:04.000 It wasn't a big, gigantic uprising.
01:30:06.000 The rest of the colonies looked at what was going on in Massachusetts and said, This is unacceptable.
01:30:10.000 They looked at Lexington and Concord and they said, This is unacceptable. 0.98
01:30:14.000 And the militias pushed back the Redcoats in Lexington and Concord, and then they got their asses handed to them in Bunker Hill. 0.66
01:30:22.000 And then the rest of the colonies started saying, Look, we need to take this actually seriously. 0.76
01:30:27.000 And it still took a long time to get the rest of the country to do it.
01:30:31.000 And I agree, and I think I can kind of mend these points here together.
01:30:35.000 I agree that we have, you know, the manpower, right?
01:30:38.000 I'm not disagreeing that the American people are capable of conducting that sort of operation to this day.
01:30:43.000 What I'm contesting is that we have the political elite in place to carry that out because what happened in the revolution is we had the Washington, we had the founding fathers ready to rock and roll.
01:30:52.000 When I look at the GOP now, well, we got Trump and we got a few of his buddies.
01:30:56.000 That's really about it.
01:30:57.000 And we got like some people, you know, scattered.
01:30:59.000 But there was a unified elite in America that was ready to rock and roll.
01:31:03.000 And I don't think we have that.
01:31:04.000 You weren't super unified.
01:31:05.000 South Carolina didn't want nothing to do with it.
01:31:08.000 That was, what's the, yeah, New York did.
01:31:08.000 What's his name?
01:31:10.000 I'm just saying they had an elite that was able to stitch everything together.
01:31:10.000 I'm not saying unity.
01:31:13.000 And right now, what we're seeing in the United States, I don't know if the right's ready for that.
01:31:16.000 Everyone's like, no, you're right.
01:31:17.000 But everyone's like, well, when a civil war comes, then we'll really show them.
01:31:21.000 And I'm like, dude, I don't know, man.
01:31:23.000 The first time in my life, it used to be when people moved, they moved because they were retiring to a warmer climate or, you know, the job opportunity or whatever.
01:31:32.000 I have never seen this much geographical, ideologically based geographical self sorting.
01:31:37.000 In the United States, as I've seen in my lifetime.
01:31:39.000 Never.
01:31:40.000 The other thing that I would say is this you want to know what the political lead is.
01:31:43.000 It's not in the federal level, it's not in the states.
01:31:47.000 So when you have, and I'll give you a perfect example of this.
01:31:50.000 First of all, the left does it to the federal government all the time with things like marijuana legislation, right?
01:31:55.000 Regardless of how you feel about it, that's them standing up to the federal government.
01:31:58.000 But when you have the Biden administration, when Abbott goes down to the border and says, National Guard, Rangers, whatnot, we're putting up our own stuff, we're going to do this.
01:32:07.000 The federal, The federal government sued in court, got the decision they wanted out of the Supreme Court that they actually had constitutional jurisdiction over the border and immigration.
01:32:15.000 And Texas' response was like, move us.
01:32:18.000 Yeah.
01:32:18.000 And what the federal government had to decide at that point is, how bad do we want to potentially get into an altercation over this issue at this time with state troops?
01:32:28.000 So that's the Obama administration and the Texas, where it's.
01:32:31.000 Yeah.
01:32:32.000 And for the record, like, I agree.
01:32:34.000 I guess what I'm just contesting is we shouldn't, and I'm not saying you guys are saying this, but some people in the audience feel this way, and conservatives broadly, we shouldn't.
01:32:41.000 Rely on that because this is what happened in South Africa.
01:32:45.000 And then they're like, all right, well, we'll all retreat into the Western Cape.
01:32:47.000 The Western Cape, you know, talking about federalism, the Western Cape is well run.
01:32:50.000 They have a party, you know, there's nine provinces in South Africa, eight are ran by the ANC, and Western Cape, it's ran by the DA.
01:32:57.000 So they're like, okay, well, we have federal, we're okay.
01:32:59.000 But once the federal, you know, once the federal government is out of, you know, it's out of control, right?
01:33:05.000 Like we cannot, we can no longer impact what's happening with the South African federal government.
01:33:11.000 It's kind of over because they can just send the military in.
01:33:14.000 They can just send this, that, and the other.
01:33:15.000 And so what I'm saying in the United States, Thankfully, we're not in that situation. 0.61
01:33:17.000 Thankfully, it's still 50 50.
01:33:19.000 Thankfully, we still have that winning.
01:33:20.000 I'm just saying we shouldn't rely on that.
01:33:21.000 We shouldn't seed the ground in Washington right now.
01:33:23.000 And to your point, like.
01:33:25.000 I know you guys agree with that.
01:33:26.000 I'm saying a lot of people in the audience are like, well, let's just go into the woods.
01:33:28.000 It's like, well.
01:33:29.000 But to your point, like Trump did win.
01:33:34.000 So, like, the idea that people have that this idea of I'm going to grab my SKS and run in the woods, right?
01:33:40.000 Like, that's not, that is a long time away because we still have access to political power.
01:33:47.000 It's not like we don't have any recourse.
01:33:49.000 Same in Britain, by the way.
01:33:50.000 They still have this as well.
01:33:51.000 Like, there's no reason to blackpill. 0.99
01:33:53.000 I guess what I'm pushing back, maybe I was kind of speaking over everyone's heads, is I guess what I'm sort of attacking are these people that, Just think they can like build up a giant armory and then they're going. 0.99
01:34:02.000 No, I don't know.
01:34:03.000 I think the people I know, look, I'm going to go off grid.
01:34:05.000 I'm like, oh, it's easier to take your stuff that way.
01:34:07.000 Yeah.
01:34:07.000 Because you think you're by yourself doing anything, you're on crack.
01:34:10.000 But no, I am not a black pillar at all. 0.68
01:34:13.000 And I'm not saying, I was just saying.
01:34:14.000 Yeah, my big thing is like, look, guys, we still have the ability to actually push political power right now.
01:34:20.000 You can't sit, like, nothing makes me more infuriated.
01:34:22.000 As someone that loves Virginia and now no longer lives there, nothing makes me more infuriated than the fact that Winsome Sears had 300,000 fewer votes.
01:34:33.000 Than Glenn Youngkin, because a bunch of Republicans in deep red areas of that state said, Oh, I'm just mad.
01:34:39.000 They didn't do enough, and there's no difference between the parties.
01:34:41.000 What do you think now?
01:34:42.000 You think there's a difference now?
01:34:44.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:44.000 Oh, yeah.
01:34:45.000 Now you've got an AG who says he wants the conservative families to have the tenant on him.
01:34:50.000 To Nick's point, or that we were making earlier, it's just a matter of the fact that we are an armed citizenry, it does make it more dangerous and more difficult for the federal government to.
01:35:05.000 Actually, come and kick in doors and exert its will.
01:35:08.000 What do you think?
01:35:09.000 What do you think a Joe Biden presidency or, God help us, a Gavin Newsom or an AOC president would attempt to do if you didn't have 400 million guns? 0.82
01:35:21.000 And this is why I want to go back to my initial point I'm like, I agree, but also when you're talking about demographics, there's only so much guns due because the Californians were all armed and then they got flooded with the third world.
01:35:33.000 And then suddenly they're out of contention forever. 0.71
01:35:35.000 It doesn't matter how many Republicans they're armed, Gavin Newsom can basically do whatever he wants to those people.
01:35:39.000 And if the pressure cooker goes up high enough, they'll just leave.
01:35:42.000 And so, again, because they can leave, because they can.
01:35:45.000 But there's always this country is huge, there's always going to be places people can leave.
01:35:48.000 And then once they're backed up against the corner, it doesn't matter, they're out of power forever.
01:35:51.000 It's South Africa, where instead of us like going out and taking our country back, we'll probably just build walls with barbed wire on top and put solar panels on top.
01:35:59.000 So, I agree that guns protect us from the excesses of like liberal power.
01:36:04.000 Like the UK is in a worse situation, even though demographically they're better off than we are.
01:36:08.000 People don't like to hear that's true.
01:36:09.000 I don't, I don't.
01:36:10.000 But the main reason the UK is worse off than us right now.
01:36:12.000 Is because the citizens have a lot of tools at disposal, whether it is firearms, whether it be federalism.
01:36:17.000 What I'm just contending is that we shouldn't rely on the fact that just because we're armed doesn't mean that the government will just wreck us and turn us into a state.
01:36:23.000 We'll throw to the constitutional conversation we were having before.
01:36:27.000 I was making the point that we effectively don't have a constitution.
01:36:29.000 I think a good example is what we just watched with Hassan Piker.
01:36:32.000 There is no unified American political body, it doesn't exist.
01:36:37.000 And these are the people that will say, I believe in the constitution. 0.99
01:36:41.000 The moment they have power, they're going to kill you. 0.90
01:36:45.000 They are cheering and clapping for the death of Charlie Kirk. 0.98
01:36:48.000 They're celebrating it.
01:36:49.000 What do you think?
01:36:50.000 You said, what do they do if they get power?
01:36:51.000 Well, they're going to start arresting people.
01:36:52.000 They're going to start removing influencers.
01:36:54.000 The Constitution is tissue paper to these people. 0.90
01:36:56.000 They don't care.
01:36:58.000 Well, my wife actually said this.
01:36:59.000 I thought it was the best way to say it. 0.96
01:37:01.000 She goes, The left quotes the Constitution the way atheists quote the Bible. 0.94
01:37:05.000 Indeed. 1.00
01:37:05.000 That's a great way to put it. 1.00
01:37:06.000 It is never about reverence for the actual document.
01:37:09.000 And in fact, the only time they quote it is when they're trying to stay our hand.
01:37:13.000 Because what does the Constitution fundamentally do?
01:37:13.000 Yes.
01:37:15.000 It limits government power, which means it's a horrible thing to have.
01:37:19.000 When they're in power, and it's a wonderful thing to refer to when they're not in power, and that's how they treat it.
01:37:25.000 Now, again, the pushback I would give you on the idea that we don't have a constitution, we've never had a completely unified body politic.
01:37:31.000 I mean, you look at the way that.
01:37:32.000 I completely disagree.
01:37:33.000 Well, you look at the way that Jefferson and Adams treated one another and the way they thought about one another.
01:37:37.000 There's always been fighting.
01:37:38.000 They called each other pedophiles.
01:37:39.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.94
01:37:40.000 I mean, it was horrible.
01:37:41.000 Hermaphroditical, right?
01:37:42.000 Like, there's always been fighting. 0.99
01:37:44.000 It might have been true about the Red Bill.
01:37:46.000 Yeah.
01:37:47.000 If you took them both privately and said things like, is there a God?
01:37:51.000 They'd both say yes.
01:37:52.000 If you said, should.
01:37:53.000 Like, the things they disagreed on.
01:37:55.000 They wouldn't agree on who God was, but.
01:37:56.000 That's true, too, because Jefferson was particularly interesting for that time. 0.94
01:38:01.000 But ultimately, the point is if you take Hassan Piker and put him next to any random moderate American, you're going to be like, this guy is a psychopath. 0.54
01:38:12.000 He's wearing a Mao outfit.
01:38:14.000 He held up a little red book celebrating it.
01:38:17.000 I mean, this is representing the massacre of tens of millions of people.
01:38:21.000 This is very different to, you know, I mean, we had duels back in the day.
01:38:25.000 Like, people went, my disagreement is that.
01:38:29.000 Yes, people disagreed.
01:38:30.000 Yes, to an extreme degree, often.
01:38:33.000 But the funny thing is, they agreed so much more than we do today with each other.
01:38:38.000 That's what's worrying to me.
01:38:40.000 Well, I mean, again, we had some pretty significant disagreements in the past.
01:38:43.000 I mean, I think of the 1860s, right?
01:38:46.000 But I guess what I would say is that to me, that does not mean that we don't have like a constitution.
01:38:52.000 We do.
01:38:53.000 In fact, that's the thing that I think most of us are trying to, it is a rallying point, and it's one of the things that creates a distinction.
01:39:03.000 It's one of the things that creates a distinction the sort of people that actually venerate our founders, that actually believe in a unique American culture and want to defend it, versus people like Hassan Piker, people like AOC, people like Bernie Sanders.
01:39:17.000 These guys have zero love, zero love for the United States.
01:39:21.000 And tens of millions of followers and voters, a third of the Democratic Party who want the Constitution abolished and replaced with the parliamentary system.
01:39:27.000 That doesn't mean that I don't have a Constitution.
01:39:29.000 It might mean that they don't care about it, but that's fine.
01:39:31.000 That's a distinction between them.
01:39:32.000 You can have one, but then the United States does not.
01:39:37.000 Okay.
01:39:39.000 Again, if your standard is everybody in the country has to believe in the thing.
01:39:43.000 The founding fathers agreed.
01:39:46.000 The first articles of the Constitution, the structure of government.
01:39:48.000 No, no, wait a second.
01:39:48.000 Wait a second.
01:39:49.000 But that's not necessarily true.
01:39:50.000 You look at the people that vehemently disagreed with the Constitution.
01:39:53.000 No, no, but they knew what it meant, is my point.
01:39:55.000 Sure.
01:39:55.000 Not that they wanted it to be.
01:39:57.000 I mean, first of all, you had one side saying no written Constitution at all.
01:40:02.000 Another side saying no because you'll get tyranny.
01:40:02.000 Yes.
01:40:04.000 But when it was ratified, they understood what it meant.
01:40:08.000 The Constitution represented something that they may or may not have liked, but they agreed with this is what it means.
01:40:13.000 But even then, there were disagreements.
01:40:15.000 This is why you had Jefferson and Madison writing the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions, because they disagreed about things like Marbury versus Madison or Maryland versus McCullough and what was the extent of federal authority.
01:40:25.000 The Alien and Sedition Act was actually a violation.
01:40:28.000 And there was actually, with that, some people got arrested and that got overturned a few years later.
01:40:34.000 My point is when they ratified the Constitution, the negotiating resulted in them saying, these are the rules that we will abide by, which of course did.
01:40:43.000 Explicitly state there's judicial oversight, checks and balances, as well as amendments to the Constitution because these arguments will exist.
01:40:49.000 But I'm saying they all worked under the constitutional umbrella, arguing with each other.
01:40:55.000 We now have a third of the Democratic Party, this is representing what, 20 million people, that are saying, given the power, they will abolish the Constitution outright. 0.79
01:41:04.000 They are, as you pointed out, they're only using it to stay our hands, quoting the Constitution the way atheists quote the Bible. 0.70
01:41:11.000 So we can put it this way. 0.92
01:41:14.000 There exists, there are two countries in the borders of one nation.
01:41:18.000 There is the multicultural democracy and the constitutional republic.
01:41:21.000 The constitutional republic of the United States has a constitution. 0.99
01:41:25.000 The multicultural democracy does not. 1.00
01:41:28.000 Within these borders, the people that occupy this space, vying for political power, the ability to control the military mechanisms and law enforcement, do not share a constitution. 0.85
01:41:39.000 And if you go back to the revolution, I mean, you made the point earlier that New York and South Carolina weren't necessarily aligned with the elite that were sort of conducting the American Revolution.
01:41:49.000 I mean, yeah, like 50% of New York were loyalists at the time of the revolution.
01:41:53.000 Additionally, People don't remember this or recall this.
01:41:56.000 I mean, 5%, that's a lot of people.
01:41:58.000 I mean, today, that would be a massive amount of people.
01:42:00.000 5% of the United States at the time of the revolution left after the revolution and went to Canada or other British dominions because they quite literally disagreed with the framers of the Constitution.
01:42:10.000 They said, We disagree with this entire thing.
01:42:12.000 We're leaving.
01:42:13.000 We're loyal to the crown.
01:42:15.000 It was pretty radical.
01:42:16.000 And so, again, like to the point, I think maybe to mend both positions here is like, even at the time, they did have these disagreements over how the Constitution was framed, if that was applicable to them.
01:42:25.000 They just left.
01:42:26.000 I guess what's different about this current iteration of people that are maybe sticking their thumb in the eye of the Constitution here is that they fundamentally aren't Westerners.
01:42:34.000 They fundamentally disagree with the entire.
01:42:36.000 Is this my point?
01:42:37.000 So, what was happening at the time of the revolution was a family dispute, right?
01:42:41.000 These are Englishmen disagreeing with other Englishmen.
01:42:43.000 We were off, I mean, you got to remember the American experiment, sort of, so to speak, was off the back of the English Civil War.
01:42:50.000 And there was sort of house disagreements at the time.
01:42:52.000 What we're seeing now is not a house disagreement.
01:42:54.000 What we're seeing is someone breaking into the house right now.
01:42:56.000 It's a subversive element.
01:42:57.000 And the American Civil War was a faction of states attempting to separate themselves from the Constitution itself.
01:43:05.000 So I want to clarify this for most people because when people say Constitution, they're usually referring to the Bill of Rights.
01:43:09.000 I'm talking about the literal first articles, talking about what Congress does, what the executive branch does.
01:43:13.000 The Confederates were like, we no longer want to be a part of that outright.
01:43:17.000 We are separating ourselves from this. 0.85
01:43:19.000 Right now in the United States, you have people like Zorhan Mamdani who explicitly defy it, say they will defy it, do whatever they want, and their ultimate goal is the abolition of it.
01:43:29.000 So.
01:43:29.000 Yes.
01:43:30.000 I got to be honest.
01:43:32.000 What's the functional difference?
01:43:33.000 They're not engaging in a physical kinetic conflict.
01:43:38.000 And the Confederates said, we want nothing to do with your constitution.
01:43:42.000 I do think that's actually relevant. 0.93
01:43:43.000 Like, if Zorhan Mamdani said, look, there are still limitations on what Zorhan Mamdani can actually do.
01:43:50.000 How do we know?
01:43:51.000 Because he hasn't gone and seized all the means of production yet, because he absolutely would if he thought he had sufficient power.
01:43:56.000 It's not the constitution that's stopping him from doing it, he would not abide by those rules.
01:44:02.000 Okay, but wait a second.
01:44:04.000 At some point, I feel like this is almost engaging like a totem.
01:44:07.000 Obviously, the Constitution itself is words on parchment at the National Archives.
01:44:12.000 The authority behind it is to the degree that people believe it and that soldiers will fight for it and defend it and go follow lawful orders.
01:44:21.000 That doesn't mean that people don't attempt to subvert it at times.
01:44:24.000 That doesn't mean that.
01:44:24.000 What's that?
01:44:25.000 Indeed.
01:44:26.000 Yeah.
01:44:26.000 So that's what I'm saying is like, I don't think the mere presence of the DSA means I don't have a Constitution anymore or the United States doesn't have a Constitution.
01:44:34.000 I don't think it even means the United States doesn't have a problem.
01:44:36.000 Because I can still appeal to the Constitution. 0.54
01:44:39.000 I can still appeal to the Constitution in order to rein in DSA excesses when they take place.
01:44:44.000 Not in federal jurisdictions controlled by liberals.
01:44:48.000 As we've already seen time and time again, when Trump does something purely.
01:44:52.000 Let's talk about DACA.
01:44:53.000 Sure.
01:44:54.000 Obama, through executive order, and one could argue the president could do this, instructs immigration enforcement not to deport DACA, creating this de facto name.
01:45:06.000 Trump then says.
01:45:07.000 You can, you can executive order in, I can executive order out.
01:45:10.000 And what happens?
01:45:11.000 The commie judges in Democrat jurisdictions go, No, you can't.
01:45:14.000 That is in clear defiance of the Constitution.
01:45:17.000 They don't care what the rules are.
01:45:19.000 So, we in the Constitutional Republic abide by this document that we hold sacred, that has evolved in some ways, some ways we don't like, some ways we do. 0.99
01:45:27.000 And they are saying, you are stupid for following rules that we can break whenever we want. 0.90
01:45:32.000 So, my point ultimately is this obviously, there exists something we call the Constitution that is utilized in law, but it is only adhered to by those who believe in it. 0.99
01:45:40.000 And the communists who operate in many of these federal jurisdictions, the entire West Coast, for instance, don't live by those rules where they are.
01:45:48.000 If you go to Seattle, you are under their communist interpretation.
01:45:54.000 And so let me put it this way.
01:45:57.000 We had an interesting conversation about this last week.
01:46:01.000 Let's say that 50, 60 years from now, five of the justices are Muslim.
01:46:08.000 A man in Chicago screams something blasphemous about the Prophet Muhammad.
01:46:14.000 He gets arrested for it by the local police force for blasphemy.
01:46:18.000 They say it's hate speech.
01:46:20.000 He appeals and says this is free speech protected by the First Amendment.
01:46:24.000 It goes to a federal court, which every way doesn't matter because it results in another appeal. 0.94
01:46:28.000 Then it finds its way ultimately to the Supreme Court, where half of the court is Muslim. 0.79
01:46:31.000 And we know how they'll decide.
01:46:33.000 How would you believe they would interpret it?
01:46:35.000 Oh, they're going to reinterpret the First Amendment to mean whatever they want.
01:46:37.000 Or they're going to interpret it from the originalist text and say, the founding fathers did not believe the First Amendment allowed you to blaspheme explicitly.
01:46:47.000 It was illegal to blaspheme at the time of the ratification of the First Amendment, and it wasn't until the 1950s, in fact.
01:46:53.000 Yeah, it wasn't until the incorporation doctrine when all of a sudden the Bill of Rights applied as limitations to the state.
01:46:58.000 They used to just be limitations on federal power, not state power.
01:47:01.000 So they would, and I would argue that this is entirely in line with the Founding Fathers' vision say, no, blasphemy is not protected speech.
01:47:08.000 Therefore, your conviction is upheld.
01:47:10.000 Now, let's say, simultaneously, a man in Chicago screams something negative about Jesus Christ.
01:47:16.000 He gets criminally charged for blasphemy.
01:47:17.000 It finds its way to the Supreme Court.
01:47:19.000 How will they rule on the issue of blasphemy pertaining to Jesus Christ?
01:47:22.000 Probably not the same.
01:47:24.000 They would argue that laws criminalizing blasphemy apply only to true deities and prophets, and Jesus Christ.
01:47:31.000 Though a prophet was not a deity, therefore it's not blasphemy to insult.
01:47:33.000 Yeah.
01:47:35.000 This is the point I make about what it means to have a constitution.
01:47:38.000 What constitutes your body of politics?
01:47:40.000 We wrote ours down and we try to live by these rules.
01:47:43.000 But when you look at what the Democrats and liberals are doing in these federal courts and what they're doing at the local level with police, they are not abiding by these rules.
01:47:50.000 When you take a look at the supremacy clause, when you take a look at how the federal government was trying to enforce laws in Portland, what were they doing?
01:47:58.000 The police were effectively helping the far left firebomb a federal building for three months.
01:48:03.000 So I look at all this and I say, It's interesting because I was talking about marketing earlier today.
01:48:11.000 And in the digital era, something has happened.
01:48:13.000 And the real estate where our philosophies and our politics exist are no longer physical.
01:48:19.000 They're now a hybrid between the physical and the digital.
01:48:22.000 And so it used to just be who has the physical control of a space.
01:48:26.000 Literally, you could walk in a building and be like, I'm the king now. 0.98
01:48:28.000 And people would be like, damn, he's the king now.
01:48:30.000 Like, see, it's kind of weird if you think about it. 0.85
01:48:33.000 That doesn't exist anymore because of digital communications.
01:48:37.000 So now.
01:48:38.000 I look at look, imagine this.
01:48:40.000 Imagine a map of the United States and there's red and blue pockets.
01:48:44.000 It's not just like the voting map.
01:48:46.000 Yeah, when you get granular you can see there's pockets of influence in various areas of various cities and various states.
01:48:52.000 And we're not talking about a political, we're not talking about political parties anymore.
01:48:55.000 We're talking about different countries.
01:48:58.000 Portland is dominated by a multicultural, democratic country that does not agree with our worldview, with our moral frameworks.
01:49:05.000 They don't.
01:49:06.000 They believe in Washington.
01:49:07.000 They passed a law that if someone kidnaps a child for a sex change and brings them to Washington, they are legally protected For having done so.
01:49:14.000 I mean, we can talk about all the unconstitutional, unlawful things that happen in all those places, and nothing is being done about it. 0.53
01:49:20.000 If the federal government tries to enforce immigration law, what do they do?
01:49:23.000 The police back off and say, we will not provide.
01:49:25.000 Let's talk about what happened in Chicago when that lady rammed the ICE vehicle.
01:49:29.000 Local police refused to deploy to provide assistance.
01:49:33.000 As far leftists showed up, shots were fired.
01:49:34.000 I can't remember exactly how it went down.
01:49:37.000 Okay, but the important part to remember here is that's not unconstitutional.
01:49:37.000 I don't want to.
01:49:42.000 Local police are not required by the Constitution to enforce federal law or assist immigration law.
01:49:42.000 What's that?
01:49:48.000 But my point is just this is a snowflake and an avalanche.
01:49:51.000 No, but I guess my point is that the important distinctions do need to be made with respect to jurisdiction.
01:49:57.000 Now, I agree that any time that you have a local jurisdiction which obstructs federal law enforcement from doing their job, which I think clearly happened in Minneapolis and clearly happened in Portland and Seattle, you don't just do the whole like, well, you know, we're really upset about that.
01:50:10.000 No, there should be federal prosecution because that's a violation of federal law.
01:50:13.000 My point is not that local police should or should not do anything.
01:50:16.000 My point is that in these states, they view the federal government as an invasive force.
01:50:20.000 Sharon Momdani vowed.
01:50:22.000 In his election, that he would use the weight of New York law enforcement, physical violence against the federal government to stop them from enforcing federal law.
01:50:31.000 When you have the mayor in our largest city say the Constitution and the votes of the American people mean nothing, we will use physical force against them if we must.
01:50:41.000 We are not talking about the same people anymore.
01:50:43.000 We are not talking about a unified country that adheres to the same rules and laws.
01:50:47.000 So, again, I'll stress of course, there is a Constitution that exists, it's physical, it's digital, we understand what it means.
01:50:53.000 But I am saying we do not have a unified body politic.
01:50:57.000 There is no constitution.
01:50:58.000 The founding fathers had a document they'd argue about.
01:51:02.000 Zonerman Nani doesn't agree with that document's existence and cites it only to exploit you.
01:51:07.000 And the moment they get a 51%, they will rip it to shreds unconstitutional. 0.73
01:51:12.000 So, okay, here's the part where I think we completely agree. 0.62
01:51:15.000 I agree with everything you just said about what they would do, provided that they attained power, and that they're still trying to do it within the constitutional system which currently exists.
01:51:24.000 Absolutely not.
01:51:24.000 The federal courts have already done this.
01:51:26.000 Okay.
01:51:27.000 Fine.
01:51:28.000 What I'm saying is that they are not doing everything that they wish they could do right now because there are still limitations with respect to what they can actually accomplish.
01:51:36.000 Not related to the Constitution, related to their critical mass, the mass of population, and their ability to use force.
01:51:41.000 Sure.
01:51:42.000 But part of the problem is that they don't represent everybody.
01:51:45.000 There are still enough people in this country that actually do believe in the Constitution that are willing to enforce it with violence, like legitimate uses of violence, in order to rein them in.
01:51:54.000 Now, again, you and I do not agree on the fact that they don't revere it, they don't want it.
01:52:00.000 They are merely using it as a process in order to attain power so that they can one day subvert it.
01:52:06.000 I don't think that means the Constitution doesn't exist.
01:52:09.000 I think what we do need to start recognizing is that we have a subversive element within this country, right, that has attained using our system political legitimacy.
01:52:19.000 And the question is, what do you do about it?
01:52:21.000 And the problem is, is that most conservatives' answer is, well, we'll just have to vote harder.
01:52:25.000 And the point that a lot of us are trying to make is, ah, we may be getting to a point where that's not a sufficient remedy.
01:52:31.000 And so the question is, if you do want to maintain, so like if you do want to maintain, we'll say the spirit of the United States Constitution, of the culture which informed it, if you do want to do that, the question is, how far are you willing to depart while not violating the core principles?
01:52:48.000 How far are you willing to depart?
01:52:50.000 Lincoln said that, you know what, the Constitution's not a suicide pact.
01:52:54.000 And so he suspended habeas corpus.
01:52:56.000 He did all sorts of things that technically would be considered violations of the Constitution.
01:53:00.000 Technically.
01:53:02.000 Article one, habeas corpus lies in Article one, and he suspended it through an unconstitutional action.
01:53:09.000 Then had his opponents either threatened with arrest, arrested, or outright removed from Congress.
01:53:14.000 Then the loyalists voted that he was allowed to do it.
01:53:16.000 Yes.
01:53:17.000 But what's remarkable here, too, is even when we go through American history and reciting these examples, is they were simply arguing over the dissolution of the United States government or the United States as we understood it.
01:53:26.000 The difference between them and what's currently existing on the left now is they're arguing for a complete dissolution of the American people writ large, as in the people, our heritage, et cetera.
01:53:35.000 So while Lincoln was saying, you know, the very, you know, fabric of the United States government, maybe even the Constitution itself was under threat, et cetera, and he, Push, pulled, prodded.
01:53:44.000 What's happening now is quite literally they want to wipe the American people off the face of the planet.
01:53:48.000 And that's the fundamental difference between basically everything that happened for the 1960s and now.
01:53:52.000 The Confederates were trying to break away.
01:53:54.000 Yeah. 0.69
01:53:55.000 They wanted rule.
01:53:56.000 These people are trying to destroy us.
01:53:57.000 Yes.
01:53:58.000 And so, again, my point is we in the Constitutional Republic clearly have a constitution, but this country is now split.
01:54:06.000 There are two countries in the borders of one nation.
01:54:09.000 We do not share a constitution with these people, we just don't.
01:54:14.000 It's, it's, and it's not even, look, look, again, go to Seattle and the judges are not going to rule in the Constitution.
01:54:18.000 They're going to rule on, on, on racial communist views.
01:54:21.000 And they've been doing it.
01:54:23.000 Like, like, wait a second, wait a second.
01:54:25.000 Nobody in Seattle, and this is my point where they know the Constitution still has, nobody in Seattle has confiscated everyone's guns, right?
01:54:32.000 They haven't closed all the churches down.
01:54:34.000 They have.
01:54:35.000 Now, what, why?
01:54:36.000 Because if they did, if they did, it would be a clear violation of constitutionally protected rights, which would then be enforced or theoretically could be enforced.
01:54:44.000 Well, we can make an argument about COVID and they did.
01:54:46.000 Okay, but this is the problem with that too. 0.92
01:54:50.000 We all remember the early days of COVID, and there's a lot of things we could look at and be like, hey, that was garbage.
01:54:53.000 I also remember the point where we didn't know if this thing was going to kill everybody. 0.98
01:54:57.000 And so you had states like Florida that have been like, you know what, we're not doing this crap anymore. 0.98
01:54:57.000 Right. 0.98
01:55:01.000 Or states like South Dakota that said, we're not doing it in the first place.
01:55:03.000 And then you had states like California that just carried on forever.
01:55:06.000 So I get it.
01:55:07.000 I get your point.
01:55:08.000 I'm not disagreeing with the finer point.
01:55:11.000 I am saying that I don't think that means none of us have the only people that have a constitution are the ones that actually revere it.
01:55:17.000 Constitutional authority can still be applied and is still applied.
01:55:20.000 Maybe not to the degree that either you or I would be satisfied with, but it is still applied.
01:55:24.000 I think the more important question here's the most important question to me.
01:55:28.000 It's not this more nuanced debate on do we actually have a constitution, do we actually have a body politic.
01:55:33.000 I think we absolutely 100% have a subversive element within our country, which has gained an incredible amount of power within our culturally shaping institutions, our political institutions.
01:55:43.000 And the real question that we have to ask is does the constitution afford us the ability?
01:55:49.000 To be able to deal with that internal threat.
01:55:53.000 And that's the argument that we have to actually discuss.
01:55:56.000 Because here's the question okay, great.
01:55:57.000 If you acknowledge no, if you say no, now the question is okay, what measures do you want to do?
01:56:03.000 What rights do you want to suspend?
01:56:05.000 What constitutional elements do you want to do?
01:56:07.000 And that is an interesting question and one I'm willing to have.
01:56:10.000 That's a discussion I'm willing to have.
01:56:12.000 Because I don't accept this idea that the only thing that we can do is vote harder.
01:56:18.000 By the same token, I don't want to fall into authoritarianism or totalitarianism.
01:56:24.000 I don't want to fall into this kind of.
01:56:27.000 We're going to have left wing economics with right wing social policy.
01:56:32.000 I think if the government today made illegal blaspheming against Christ, would you consider that authoritarian?
01:56:42.000 On the federal level?
01:56:44.000 If the federal government, Supreme Court ruled blanket, like literally right now, they said if you say ill or you deny Christ, that is a criminal act.
01:56:53.000 You can be charged for it.
01:56:54.000 No, because I think authoritarian is actually rooted more in the question of who controls the power and how the laws are actually made.
01:56:54.000 Would that be authoritarian?
01:57:02.000 Let me put it differently.
01:57:03.000 I don't want to see an over centralized power in the hands of a couple of people that are going to rule as oligarchs.
01:57:10.000 I don't want a dictatorship.
01:57:11.000 I don't want that.
01:57:13.000 Okay.
01:57:13.000 So let me draw a distinction.
01:57:15.000 Well, you can have authoritarian without totalitarian.
01:57:16.000 Agreed.
01:57:17.000 So my point is let's say that there is no strong hyper centralized government, but a unified law enforcement apparatus that exists individually in various cities and states all agree anybody who blasphemes against Jesus Christ should be arrested.
01:57:28.000 I think you could come up with something like that in a way that would not be authoritarian.
01:57:32.000 My view on this is clearly.
01:57:34.000 Jews and Muslims would be like, this is authoritarianism, we're not living under a boot. 0.99
01:57:38.000 And there's a growing number of Muslims in this country. 0.95
01:57:41.000 But I also don't think that, like, I don't think we're sitting under any pressing threat right now that Christians are going to rise up, and that's their main priority is we want to make sure that's not the same thing. 0.85
01:57:51.000 My point ultimately is that authoritarianism is in the eye of the beholder and in the diversity of a population's politics. 0.84
01:57:51.000 Okay. 0.84
01:58:00.000 If every single person in this country right now woke up and had an epiphany and became Orthodox Christians, There would be no authoritarianism if they banned blasphemy against Christ because they would all be like, but no one would. 0.82
01:58:12.000 It just doesn't exist. 0.96
01:58:13.000 But we get into some of these arguments, and I'm not sure how relevant they are to the present situation.
01:58:13.000 I get that.
01:58:21.000 I'm trying to connect the okay, we both acknowledge that there seems to be something that the Constitution theoretically didn't account for.
01:58:31.000 So let's look at the Roman Republic.
01:58:33.000 The Roman Republic actually had the position of the dictator.
01:58:36.000 And so you see this with Cincinnati.
01:58:37.000 It's why we have Cincinnati.
01:58:38.000 It's why George Washington had the Order of Cincinnati.
01:58:41.000 What happened?
01:58:42.000 Well, you had people that were rising up and wanted to overthrow.
01:58:45.000 So, what did they do?
01:58:46.000 They bring Cincinnati back in from the farm. 0.98
01:58:48.000 They say, We're going to give you dictatorial power for six months.
01:58:50.000 You need to put down the revolt.
01:58:51.000 Cincinnati does it, then voluntarily hands back power and then goes back to the farm.
01:58:55.000 He actually did, I think, twice.
01:58:56.000 Yeah.
01:58:57.000 Right now, later on in Roman history, you had Sulla who attempted to do the same thing.
01:59:02.000 Sulla actually takes power, he marches into Rome.
01:59:05.000 He's the first one to march the legions into Rome without the approval of the Senate.
01:59:09.000 Right.
01:59:09.000 And then what does he do?
01:59:10.000 He sets up a whole new series of laws and restrictions.
01:59:13.000 Why?
01:59:13.000 To prevent any cella from ever happening again, because his whole idea was to restore the Roman Republic.
01:59:19.000 And then what do you get within a generation?
01:59:20.000 Caesar.
01:59:22.000 And now the Republic is essentially gone, and we're moving into the Principus era.
01:59:25.000 I think.
01:59:26.000 So, my question is always with this.
01:59:29.000 And again, some people don't want to maintain our constitutional republic the way it was established.
01:59:35.000 They don't even want to revert back to whatever, the 19th century.
01:59:39.000 That's my question is what are they going to do?
01:59:41.000 You know that China operates police departments in the United States?
01:59:45.000 The Chinese Communist Party has their own police departments operating in the United States.
01:59:50.000 Okay.
01:59:53.000 And how do they operate?
01:59:54.000 Because the Chinese police. 0.98
01:59:56.000 So the Chinese police department can come and arrest me.
01:59:58.000 Nope.
01:59:58.000 No, no.
01:59:59.000 Exactly. 0.99
01:59:59.000 They can go after a Chinese citizen. 0.99
02:00:00.000 Because they exist outside of our constitution. 1.00
02:00:02.000 As citizens in this country with private funding operating on our streets with vehicles, lights, and sirens, they run police departments, and their response is we're a private international affairs issue.
02:00:13.000 Yeah. 0.88
02:00:14.000 And what they do is they go to people from China who live in America or descendants, and they can use the weight of threats against family in China to control them. 0.95
02:00:23.000 And we're just like, okay, these people clearly are operating in our country. 0.89
02:00:26.000 There's also Sharia patrols happening in places like Dearborn and other cities. 0.63
02:00:30.000 You actually have Jewish patrols happening in places like New York. 0.93
02:00:35.000 You have Muslims coming right out and saying you'll never be able to ban Sharia because of the First Amendment. 0.98
02:00:39.000 Indeed. 0.98
02:00:41.000 My point ultimately is that we are seeing the emergence of various extra governmental pockets.
02:00:45.000 Happening all over the country.
02:00:46.000 We live next to these people.
02:00:48.000 They clearly don't agree with our governmental system.
02:00:50.000 They don't operate within it.
02:00:51.000 Well, the other thing that needs to be understood, and this is a big part of the argument, and I will see the classical liberals fighting with the post liberals and everything else, and I feel like so much of it is talking around one another.
02:01:03.000 I was speaking at ARC, okay?
02:01:05.000 And I don't think they were expecting me to say what I said.
02:01:08.000 I said, You guys are all standing here trying to defend Western civilization.
02:01:11.000 I'm here to defend Christendom.
02:01:13.000 And the reason why is because it is great to have a First Amendment, a Second Amendment, a Third Amendment, it's great to have a constitutional order, but these things are built upon something.
02:01:23.000 They're built upon shared beliefs and values.
02:01:25.000 Adams himself said our Constitution was written for a moral and religious people and is totally unsuited to any other.
02:01:30.000 Why?
02:01:30.000 Because you cannot completely contain or control a country or a body politic exclusively through law.
02:01:37.000 There has to be something that actually unites those people and a shared set of actual values that will cause them to self regulate.
02:01:44.000 And so, really, why the laws exist are to explain what happens when members of the body politic operate outside of the social order, which already keeps them in bounds.
02:01:54.000 And I don't think laws exist either.
02:01:56.000 Okay.
02:01:57.000 I'll give you an example. 0.59
02:01:58.000 In West Virginia, cohabitation is illegal.
02:02:01.000 Nobody's enforcing it.
02:02:03.000 Okay, you can still have me.
02:02:05.000 But the point is this if I open the code book of West Virginia, it's meaningless.
02:02:11.000 Reading this informs me in no way of what will happen if I do something bad in West Virginia.
02:02:16.000 I'm only informed by the TV, by news reports, and what my neighbors are willing to get offended at.
02:02:21.000 If you go to West Virginia and you bring your girlfriend and move into an apartment, nothing will happen, despite the fact it's. 0.53
02:02:27.000 Overtly illegal. 0.89
02:02:28.000 It's literally codified illegal.
02:02:29.000 It doesn't mean laws don't exist.
02:02:31.000 It means, as we define laws as explaining what will happen to you when you do things that it says not to do, that's not correct.
02:02:42.000 Okay, but nobody wants to. 0.94
02:02:43.000 Okay, first of all, if the complaint is we have too many laws on the books that are meaningless and stupid and should be removed, fine. 0.81
02:02:49.000 But there was a time, I'm willing to bet, where cohabitation laws would have been enforced. 0.87
02:02:53.000 So, how would someone walking, someone who's never lived in Idaho before, go there and says, I don't know their gaming laws, I don't know if you can turn right on red.
02:02:53.000 Okay.
02:03:01.000 I'm going to pull up the code book and just give it a quick glance.
02:03:03.000 Will he be informed as to what laws are enforced against?
02:03:07.000 No, the assumption will be that all of those laws potentially come with penalties.
02:03:11.000 Well, we just don't know for sure.
02:03:12.000 And so he's informed by culture and how the city or the government reacts.
02:03:16.000 Obviously, sure.
02:03:17.000 Culture informs things.
02:03:18.000 I'm not arguing.
02:03:20.000 Here's my problem it's the extreme language being used.
02:03:22.000 Laws don't exist.
02:03:23.000 Yes, they do.
02:03:24.000 Laws exist, they're enforced all the time.
02:03:26.000 However, the laws which make the most sense are those ones.
02:03:30.000 The reason why we call it English common law.
02:03:33.000 Why is it English common law?
02:03:34.000 Was it because a couple of nobles got together and said, okay, I've decided these are the rules?
02:03:38.000 No, what you had was a series of traditions.
02:03:41.000 If you got an issue with the way I've described it, that's fine.
02:03:43.000 But my point is when I say laws don't exist, I'm saying that when we say what is a law, and someone says it is a rule imposed on society through various means, some through democratic means, some through dictatorial or authoritarian, but it effectively describes what you can, typically what you cannot do and the penalty for such.
02:04:02.000 Sure.
02:04:03.000 Then I would argue.
02:04:05.000 What I mean is it like 70% of the laws are not really laws then because those things written down don't actually mean anything.
02:04:11.000 So, my point is not that obviously laws get enforced, but the other issue is that sometimes there's enforcement against things that are not even laws.
02:04:19.000 For example, often if so, we had a guy arrested for disorderly conduct for hate speech, and they say, but they do it all the time.
02:04:25.000 Yeah, in these where it should be completely protected by the Constitution and there is no codified law, people have been arrested for hate speech and they don't say hate speech, they say disorderly conduct.
02:04:36.000 Look at uh, uh, uh, uh, Shiloh Hendricks.
02:04:40.000 A guy was filming her and she yelled at him a nasty word. 0.82
02:04:42.000 She got criminally charged for it.
02:04:44.000 That law is not on the books.
02:04:46.000 How did they enforce it?
02:04:48.000 In fact, it's protected by the First Amendment.
02:04:50.000 How were they able to criminally charge an arrestable man for something constitutionally protected and not in law?
02:04:58.000 What was that, Minnesota?
02:04:59.000 Yeah.
02:05:00.000 But the only thing I would say is okay, but that's not a demonstration of why laws don't exist.
02:05:04.000 It's a demonstration that laws are what people choose them to be at any random point and the books don't exist.
02:05:09.000 No, I don't even think it's what people choose at any random point because even then, like again, the police are not kicking in the door right now.
02:05:15.000 But that's an exercise of volition and force.
02:05:17.000 Okay, but the point that I'm making is unless you explain specifically what you mean, are there some laws?
02:05:23.000 Which are bad laws that are not enforced?
02:05:25.000 Are there some laws which remain on the books which people don't enforce?
02:05:28.000 Are there other laws or are there other ways to interpret the law which law enforcement takes way too much leverage with in order to get the result that they want?
02:05:34.000 Let me clarify.
02:05:35.000 Sure.
02:05:36.000 Written law is largely meaningless to informing an individual of what society expects of them.
02:05:41.000 That's a better way to phrase it.
02:05:42.000 So, what I'm trying to say when I say I don't think laws exist is I'm simplifying the idea that when someone says a thing like, we're going to write this thing down, typically only when they immediately do it is it followed.
02:05:55.000 And then after a certain amount of time, it may or may not be.
02:05:57.000 So, just to clarify.
02:05:59.000 How do you define a law?
02:06:01.000 It is a subset of rules that are held largely in the abstract, which may or may not be enforced against in various jurisdictions.
02:06:10.000 They differ even when written down.
02:06:13.000 So, my point again is if a person moved for the first time to a state and said, again, you know, like I think in New York, you can't turn right on red.
02:06:21.000 And so people from out of state don't know that.
02:06:23.000 And you get tickets all the time.
02:06:23.000 Sure.
02:06:25.000 So they're like, I better look these things up.
02:06:27.000 You will not be informed by reading the code book.
02:06:30.000 It doesn't explain to the culture what they're willing to enforce against.
02:06:34.000 For instance, New York doesn't enforce assault.
02:06:36.000 They don't enforce assault.
02:06:38.000 So if someone hits you, the police will not show up unless you can prove physical damage.
02:06:43.000 So literally, you could be at a bar and a guy punches you in the stomach, and then people call the police and the cops are like, What happened?
02:06:48.000 A guy punched a guy.
02:06:49.000 I'm like, We're not enforcing against that.
02:06:50.000 The distinction.
02:06:51.000 Okay, here's the distinction.
02:06:53.000 It's not that, like, if you pull up the camera and the guy actually got assaulted and it could be proved, well, then look.
02:07:00.000 No, I'm not kidding.
02:07:01.000 In New York, they say no.
02:07:03.000 You're telling me anywhere in New York State they do that, or you're telling me that in New York City specifically?
02:07:07.000 Okay.
02:07:08.000 That's my point, right?
02:07:09.000 My point is that I'm not disagreeing that there's problems with respect to the practical application of the law.
02:07:15.000 I'm also not disagreeing that there are times.
02:07:17.000 For instance, my father was LAPD for 20 years, right?
02:07:20.000 And he would tell you that there were certain people when they broke the law, they threw the cuffs on him and they took him into jail.
02:07:25.000 And there were other people when they broke the law, they treated him differently.
02:07:27.000 Why?
02:07:27.000 Because in the neighborhood he was working as a police officer, he knew the people there that were actual troublemakers, that were like literally hurting people.
02:07:35.000 And then he might know. 0.97
02:07:36.000 A 15 year old kid that joined a gang, not because he wanted to, but because he would get his ass beat, right, if he didn't wear the right colors when he went to school. 0.95
02:07:44.000 And so, do you want a law enforcement officer to be able to use discretion with respect to how rigorously the law is enforced? 0.96
02:07:52.000 No.
02:07:52.000 I would argue, no, I say you do.
02:07:54.000 Now, the question is within boundaries.
02:07:57.000 What boundaries?
02:07:58.000 Cultural boundaries.
02:07:59.000 So, for instance, I don't want necessarily both people going to jail for the rest of their life and having a criminal record.
02:08:05.000 I might want law enforcement to be able to use some degree of discretion. 0.63
02:08:09.000 Because the bottom line is, if you also get a criminal record for something stupid when you're 14, right, that could put your life in a very, very different trajectory. 0.91
02:08:16.000 That works really well in a homogenous society. 0.98
02:08:18.000 Yes. 0.98
02:08:19.000 It does not work well today when you have, in Minnesota, a woman being arrested for something that doesn't exist in codified law and is unconstitutional.
02:08:27.000 That's my point when I talked about this whole idea of Christendom, or I talked about this whole idea upon what is the larger cultural thing that your country is built upon.
02:08:36.000 And again, you don't need racial homogeneity, you do need cultural homogeneity.
02:08:42.000 And the biggest problems that we, so it's not that the Constitution doesn't exist.
02:08:45.000 It's not that law doesn't exist.
02:08:47.000 What has happened is that for the first time in U.S. history, we have had massive multicultural, by design, multicultural infusion without proper assimilation.
02:08:58.000 Well, we don't need to argue the semantics.
02:09:00.000 I think we agree.
02:09:00.000 My point is in Minnesota, a woman got arrested for something that wasn't a law and is constitutionally protected, and she was convicted, and she's going to serve a penalty for it.
02:09:09.000 There's no constitutional protection that she'll try to appeal, and then you're asking for federal intervention, which may come.
02:09:14.000 But as a state, Minnesota is clearly operating outside the confines of codified law and the Constitution.
02:09:19.000 So.
02:09:21.000 We should grab, I'll grab a couple of super chats.
02:09:23.000 I think we can just settle with John Lennon's Imagine.
02:09:25.000 Maybe we do a stanza.
02:09:27.000 We got Brett Davis.
02:09:28.000 He says, Welcome to the world, Kenneth James, born Saturday.
02:09:31.000 The last of our seven kids.
02:09:33.000 Phil, can I get a heavy metal?
02:09:34.000 Yeah.
02:09:35.000 Yeah.
02:09:37.000 Welcome to the world.
02:09:37.000 Patriot.
02:09:38.000 Thinker for life says, Muslims hate dogs because they believe dogs block Allah. 1.00
02:09:42.000 And they do. 1.00
02:09:43.000 Please do an experiment, Tim.
02:09:44.000 You and other hosts for a month sincerely ask Jesus Christ to be in the conversation.
02:09:49.000 No GD for that time. 0.57
02:09:50.000 Watch.
02:09:52.000 No GD.
02:09:53.000 What does that mean?
02:09:53.000 No saying.
02:09:54.000 Ah. 1.00
02:09:55.000 Gosh damn. 1.00
02:09:56.000 Ah. 0.99
02:09:56.000 Good. 0.99
02:09:58.000 McBeefrod says Have any of y'all watched Space King?
02:10:00.000 It has absolutely nothing to do with Warhammer, but if you like that, you'll love Space King.
02:10:06.000 Episode 5 comes on the 29th.
02:10:07.000 You should watch the teaser, not trailer.
02:10:09.000 I said Space Jam.
02:10:10.000 No, but I did watch the Lanterns show, and I'm lukewarm a little bit.
02:10:15.000 C.
02:10:16.000 It's a little slow.
02:10:17.000 I don't mind it, but we'll see where they go.
02:10:20.000 I don't mind it.
02:10:22.000 I'm interested in watching it.
02:10:22.000 We'll see.
02:10:23.000 I think it's so far so good.
02:10:25.000 It's a little hammy, like the first, the bad guy that they're encountering, basically, he's a militia guy.
02:10:32.000 And then Hal Jordan is basically a liberal who has just got a chip on his shoulder about militia.
02:10:38.000 He's like, You want to fight the government?
02:10:39.000 And the guy's like, What?
02:10:40.000 So I actually did enjoy that when he goes to the guy and he's like, Let me guess, you need my help, because he's a Greenlander, you need my help.
02:10:46.000 What?
02:10:46.000 The government's about to storm in and take your guns.
02:10:47.000 And he goes, You think that's why we asked you here?
02:10:50.000 No, it's because there's aliens.
02:10:51.000 And they're like, Oh.
02:10:52.000 I'm like, Okay, that's actually not that bad, you know?
02:10:56.000 All right.
02:10:58.000 Phoenix says, when you have small children, everything is lost, broken, or sticky.
02:11:02.000 That's what I said to my wife whenever I got no sticky babies.
02:11:05.000 No sticky babies.
02:11:07.000 So I am very, I understand.
02:11:09.000 Like, the one thing I always get irked by was like my friends or other people's kids. 0.99
02:11:14.000 They're just covered in crap. 0.98
02:11:16.000 It's like, you know, you can wipe them off and let them keep playing. 0.99
02:11:19.000 And then you might have to do it a lot.
02:11:20.000 Like, I respect it.
02:11:21.000 But that's what I said.
02:11:22.000 I was like, we're going to wipe her hands when she gets all sticky and dirty and wipe her face.
02:11:26.000 And then she can play again. 1.00
02:11:27.000 And she gets sticky. 0.96
02:11:27.000 We're going to wipe her off. 0.96
02:11:28.000 We're going to make sure she's. 0.97
02:11:29.000 No sticky babies.
02:11:30.000 Wonderful.
02:11:31.000 Indeed.
02:11:32.000 We got more.
02:11:33.000 Mr. Ghetto Jersey says, keeping with Timcast tradition, please help me welcome my first child, baby Xena.
02:11:37.000 Congratulations.
02:11:39.000 Born 823, nine pounds, seven ounces.
02:11:43.000 The Timcast audience has the highest TFR, I think.
02:11:46.000 We're like ascetics over here.
02:11:47.000 It's crazy.
02:11:50.000 Schnap says, Shout out to Pippi, the most adorable little chihuahua ever for 12 years.
02:11:50.000 All right.
02:11:54.000 I was the happiest dog owner imaginable.
02:11:56.000 Goodbye and God bless my special baby.
02:11:59.000 When my time comes, I'll find you on the other side.
02:12:02.000 Rest in peace, Pippi. 0.66
02:12:03.000 Dog holla.
02:12:04.000 But you know, there's this really great meme where someone said if you think about the perspective of a dog, we are these beings that live for several lifetimes with incomprehensible abilities and powers.
02:12:19.000 It's almost like we're elves and they are the humans living among us.
02:12:23.000 So just remember that your dog gets to live the greatest life imaginable.
02:12:28.000 And they look up to you as some sort of powerful, long lived being that they revere.
02:12:34.000 That's why they get hyped up when you like stand up.
02:12:36.000 They're like, oh, something big.
02:12:38.000 I think it's funny.
02:12:39.000 It's like dogs, it's like, wow, you feed me, you clothe me, you play with me, you give me attention.
02:12:43.000 You must be God.
02:12:44.000 And then cats are like, wow, you feed me, you clothe me, you pay attention to me, you meet all my needs.
02:12:48.000 I must be God.
02:12:51.000 All right, we'll grab one more.
02:12:52.000 One more.
02:12:53.000 Sergeant Stoic says on the topic of infighting in the U.S. in the near future, Nick, do you see our national infrastructure being slowly and intentionally degraded, however possible, set up for a land invasion?
02:13:04.000 CA or California, Oregon, Washington, I sure do.
02:13:10.000 I don't think there's any way, any sort of major strategic threat to the United States.
02:13:14.000 Pulls off a land invasion in the United States.
02:13:15.000 Never.
02:13:16.000 And you've got to go across major oceans.
02:13:18.000 Like, it's just, I don't think China could pull off a successful amphibious invasion against Taiwan, right?
02:13:24.000 Like, much less going against the Pacific or the Atlantic.
02:13:26.000 No, the biggest problem, again, we'll reference Lincoln, right?
02:13:30.000 His whole thing was as a nation of free men, we spend a newer forever or die by suicide.
02:13:34.000 I'm far more concerned of us dying by suicide than I am an external threat.
02:13:38.000 Real. 0.95
02:13:39.000 So it's true.
02:13:39.000 Right on.
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02:13:50.000 No, just hey, once again, thank you for watching Timcast.
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02:13:54.000 Thanks again.
02:13:55.000 Yeah, and I want to give a shout out to my fiance.
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02:14:32.000 Very proud of you, man.
02:14:34.000 Nick, thanks for coming.
02:14:36.000 You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere, at Carter Banks Official everywhere else, and YouTube at Trash House Records for the label. 0.99
02:14:43.000 Yeah, Tate's got the total Chud victory today, huh? 0.99
02:14:45.000 True, dude. 0.96
02:14:46.000 Anything is possible, like incels, fake sales, everything.
02:14:48.000 Just hold the line, man. 1.00
02:14:49.000 Pull some chungus. 1.00
02:14:50.000 All right, everybody. 0.99
02:14:51.000 We'll see you at rumble.com slash TimCast IRL right now.
02:14:55.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:15:54.000 Did you put these photos up when we were on the show?
02:15:57.000 Do it anyway.
02:15:58.000 Let's talk about that.
02:15:59.000 Yeah, I was waiting, but I'll put it right up now.
02:16:01.000 Look at this guy pointing a gun at federal agents. 0.74
02:16:05.000 And we had one of the Bundy dudes on.
02:16:08.000 It was pretty nuts.
02:16:10.000 They basically destroyed his life.
02:16:12.000 It's absolutely crazy what they did to these guys.
02:16:15.000 What exactly happened here again?
02:16:17.000 The Bundy ranch, basically, simple version.
02:16:20.000 The ranchers had been using this big open swath of land that was just wild land basically forever.
02:16:25.000 Yeah.
02:16:26.000 The federal government claims that land.
02:16:28.000 But they've still grazed on it, no issues.
02:16:30.000 The government made a claim a long time ago.
02:16:32.000 No one ever said anything, and they kept using the land for their cattle.
02:16:35.000 One day the BLM said, Hey, you can't do it anymore.
02:16:37.000 And they were like, My family's been grazing this land for 200 years.
02:16:42.000 And they were like, Too effing bad.
02:16:43.000 And they're like, Well, we ain't leaving.
02:16:44.000 And so this resulted in the Bureau of Land Management coming down, a big standoff, and it was nuts.
02:16:51.000 They arrested, was it Ammon and Clint?
02:16:56.000 This is Phil's domain.
02:16:57.000 Yeah, they arrested him, and then they bounced him around prison, solitary, basically tortured the guy.
02:17:01.000 Yeah.
02:17:03.000 And no one did it.
02:17:04.000 Look, I understand a guy showed up with a gun, but they got a guy in prison being tortured, and like no one's doing anything for him.
02:17:09.000 You know what I mean?
02:17:10.000 I mean, don't get me wrong, a lot of people were helping him out.
02:17:11.000 I'm just saying, you don't see a mass uprising over tyranny.
02:17:14.000 Yeah.
02:17:15.000 You know?
02:17:16.000 I mean, Chauvin's still in prison, and we're just like, well, it's state law.
02:17:19.000 What are we going to do?
02:17:20.000 Yeah.
02:17:20.000 Yep.
02:17:21.000 Look at Derek Chauvin in prison, you know?
02:17:23.000 He broke no law.
02:17:27.000 Let's jump into callers.
02:17:29.000 Let me go make sure.
02:17:30.000 We got Bizarre721 chilling.
02:17:34.000 What's up?
02:17:35.000 What up, dude?
02:17:36.000 What up?
02:17:37.000 How's it going?
02:17:38.000 Thank you for taking my call.
02:17:39.000 Incredible community, I fear, by the way.
02:17:42.000 Nick, you've been a vocal supporter awarding Thomas Sowell the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
02:17:46.000 Oh, yeah.
02:17:47.000 What does it actually take to turn grassroots enthusiasm and the righteous intonation a lot of us feel into enough public pressure that the people in power actually pay attention?
02:17:55.000 For ordinary people who believe Sowell deserves this recognition, what should we do right now to make that happen?
02:18:02.000 You know, that's an interesting question.
02:18:03.000 I mean, different people do petitions and things like that.
02:18:06.000 I think there's a lot of, if you actually have a relationship with your, your, Representative, that's actually a good way to do it as well.
02:18:14.000 I'm actually not going to confirm or deny whether or not I'll be in the White House later this week.
02:18:18.000 And I will absolutely be bringing this up because, yeah, a big part of it is use the influence you have with the people that actually have access to power to actually push something that you actually want done.
02:18:29.000 And on something like this, it's fairly simple, right?
02:18:31.000 I don't see any conceivable reason why Thomas Sowell should not be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, except for the fact that he might not want it.
02:18:39.000 But other than that, I think the rest of us think he deserves it.
02:18:41.000 And so, That's what I will be doing I'll try to be using whatever influence I have to be able to push it.
02:18:47.000 And everyone else should do the same, especially if you have influence with somebody that has, you know, kind of closer access to the people that actually make the decision.
02:18:54.000 Can Pat Buchanan get a petition as well?
02:18:56.000 Sure, you can give Pat one.
02:18:57.000 I think Riley Moore proposed a bill to get that going, but he doesn't get his flowers, man, Pat Buchanan.
02:19:04.000 Riley Moore is great.
02:19:05.000 No, Pat Buchanan doesn't get enough love.
02:19:07.000 There's too many people that are like, oh, you're racist.
02:19:09.000 Yeah, whatever.
02:19:10.000 I actually did a commending resolution in the Virginia General Assembly for Thomas Sowell.
02:19:14.000 And I will say right now, It was probably the single most selfish thing I ever did while a member of government.
02:19:21.000 And it was because I really wanted an excuse to meet Thomas Sowell.
02:19:24.000 I still have not ever met him.
02:19:25.000 And I still have this resolution.
02:19:27.000 And I keep talking to the Hoover Institute to be like, hey, how do I get this to Thomas Sowell?
02:19:31.000 Like, he's probably not going to see you.
02:19:33.000 Like, gosh dang it.
02:19:34.000 All right, where's Peter Robinson?
02:19:35.000 Peter Robinson, how do I get it?
02:19:39.000 Do you have anything you want to add or any of the follow ups?
02:19:42.000 Well, I just, so when you're speaking about the Thomas Sowell Private Win Award, ironically, I'm actually making an update post.
02:19:48.000 I did start a petition at.
02:19:49.000 Change.org slash award soul.
02:19:51.000 And it's doing pretty well.
02:19:52.000 I've really been trying to get this out there.
02:19:54.000 And it's funny because the post I'm actually planning on doing an update post tomorrow is talking about an article that says why Seoul should not get mental freedom. 0.99
02:20:03.000 And I make the case, too, why I agree. 0.74
02:20:05.000 Because the petition was more to get his ideas out there because I really didn't think he would accept it, which evidence shows he would not.
02:20:12.000 Yeah.
02:20:12.000 But also, I also sent the letter to the White House, and it did arrive on Monday.
02:20:17.000 So I don't know if anyone's going to see it, but I did have my daughter write it.
02:20:20.000 Well, I drafted it, and she actually wrote it in cursive.
02:20:23.000 So my handwriting looks like slop.
02:20:25.000 So hopefully that gets the attention.
02:20:27.000 No, that's great.
02:20:27.000 Well, and can I tell you right now, just from a political perspective, that was the smart way to do it.
02:20:33.000 People get a lot of letters, but you write a letter for a kid in cursive, all of a sudden you're like, oh, this is cute.
02:20:39.000 I need to respond to this.
02:20:40.000 Cursive is a big deal. 0.89
02:20:41.000 Full props for using the children to engage in the appropriate level of manipulation.
02:20:49.000 Thank you.
02:20:49.000 That's awesome, man.
02:20:50.000 And, you know, what's the word?
02:20:53.000 Being active in the civic process.
02:20:55.000 Yeah, in the process.
02:20:56.000 Yeah.
02:20:56.000 Well, and I will say this too I don't want just Thomas Soule to get it for his sake.
02:21:01.000 I want to get it because I think a man that has been that influential and that important to not just discussing these ideas, but making them so accessible.
02:21:09.000 I can't tell you how influential my kids will all tell you right now hey, if there's one person that daddy really, really wants to meet, they'd all be like, it's Thomas Soul.
02:21:19.000 I love that.
02:21:20.000 Awesome.
02:21:20.000 You got anything to shout out?
02:21:23.000 Yeah, I just want a quick shout out to my friends at the World Library Association because they're working their butts off to restore school libraries with appropriate educational materials.
02:21:30.000 So that's a big front.
02:21:31.000 And yeah, keep a lookout for them because they do some big things.
02:21:34.000 Sweet man, right on.
02:21:36.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:21:37.000 Right in.
02:21:38.000 Uh, thank you.
02:21:39.000 The New York Public Library might be my favorite building on planet earth, and I've been to the back, I've been everywhere.
02:21:43.000 That's my favorite building.
02:21:44.000 It's really next up.
02:21:45.000 We got Haraf Harafamagor, Harafamagor.
02:21:50.000 Hi, what up? 0.86
02:21:53.000 You said it right.
02:21:54.000 Um, hi, thank you for taking my call.
02:21:57.000 So, um, sorry, a little nervous.
02:22:01.000 You're fine.
02:22:02.000 Thanks for calling, man.
02:22:02.000 You're good.
02:22:03.000 Then we're naked.
02:22:05.000 So, I'm calling to uh.
02:22:05.000 That is it.
02:22:08.000 To convey my theory about China's secret first strike weapon against the West and ask the panel what they think about it.
02:22:16.000 So, yeah, give me a minute to lay it all out.
02:22:16.000 Shoot.
02:22:19.000 But basically, we know China is sending tons of compromised electronics and apps and all kinds of stuff to us. 0.98
02:22:27.000 And they're stealing everything they can get their tiny little yellow demon fingers on. 0.60
02:22:34.000 But most people don't really consider what information is actually being stolen.
02:22:37.000 They just think, Advertising or what sites you visit, but it could also be usernames, logins, everything in your autofill on your browsers, passwords, emails, all that stuff.
02:22:49.000 And so, my theory is what they would do when they're ready to actually cripple the entire West is just take all that information from maybe 100 million Americans, pretty much every way they access, any way that anything on the anything that their online presence they would just dump it all online.
02:23:07.000 And I would send the entire West into a panic because everyone tries to access all of their services all at once.
02:23:13.000 Uh, banking, um, accounts, streaming, pretty much everything that they have that needs an account, and all the services immediately go down because everyone's trying to access them.
02:23:24.000 But you know, and you can imagine what that does to the economy, yeah.
02:23:30.000 So, I think that cybersecurity is a obviously it's a massive threat because look, there's there are millions of Americans out there whose password is password, still, I guarantee it, you know, or like they just put their.
02:23:45.000 They'll put their finger on the H key and slide it over to the open quotes key, and that's their password.
02:23:54.000 That's easy to remember. 0.99
02:23:56.000 Idiot to do that. 1.00
02:23:58.000 Or what have you. 1.00
02:23:59.000 So, when it comes to cybersecurity and you're dealing with normal people, which most of us are, you're going to have tons and tons of vulnerabilities.
02:24:13.000 The bright side is there's going to be AI.
02:24:18.000 Capable of hacking into most things very soon.
02:24:22.000 So it doesn't really matter.
02:24:25.000 I actually, so it was interesting.
02:24:27.000 I had some legislation on this when I served on the communications innovation technology thing in Virginia.
02:24:35.000 And they were bringing more data centers into Virginia.
02:24:37.000 And one of the things I was worried about was Chinese tech because China does not, I do not think China presents a significant military threat to the United States.
02:24:45.000 However, so much of their technology is already in our telecommunications system.
02:24:49.000 And to your point, The corporate espionage piece, the hacking of all the passwords.
02:24:55.000 I don't think they do this as some sort of like first strike to cripple the United States.
02:25:00.000 I think they hold it as leverage.
02:25:03.000 Because, again, it's one of those things where, to the extent that you try to damage the United States, we can actually deliver a whole lot of damage back.
02:25:13.000 But you can definitely entice U.S. foreign policy to think differently about something if it's not that big a deal to us, if that makes sense. 0.92
02:25:22.000 So, I have no doubt that the asymmetric strategy of the Chinese is to go through our telegoms, to go through cyber warfare. 0.85
02:25:30.000 So, essentially, the scenario that you dropped, I think, is a very relevant one. 0.97
02:25:37.000 I don't know if it's first strike in anticipation of launching some sort of military strike.
02:25:41.000 I think it's far more effective for them to use it as a - it's kind of like an unspoken threat during negotiations for things.
02:25:49.000 That's my take.
02:25:53.000 Well, with the OIC is not necessarily a prelude to a military conflict so much as preventing one.
02:25:59.000 Like Tim always says the rising power facing off against the dominant power.
02:26:06.000 If they just stop the conflict by making the dominant power suddenly not be dominant anymore, then yeah.
02:26:13.000 I think that was the Democrat plan the whole time.
02:26:15.000 They've been selling, giving away our manufacturing to China, Trans Pacific Partnership, letting our IP just get ripped off and stolen.
02:26:21.000 The U.S. goes into decline while China ascends, and they avoid war. 0.63
02:26:28.000 I don't believe China's in the ascension right now, though. 0.69
02:26:30.000 Not anymore.
02:26:31.000 Yeah.
02:26:31.000 But, you know, 10 or 15 years ago, when all our factories were over there, Trump started to turn things around.
02:26:35.000 I think the Japanese might turn things around and take the rightful throne. 1.00
02:26:39.000 Wouldn't it be great if they actually just succeed and take China and all that lane? 1.00
02:26:42.000 Yeah, that'd be awesome. 0.99
02:26:43.000 And they've been, like, really gratuitous to the Chinese when they've ruled in the past. 1.00
02:26:46.000 So that should go well. 0.99
02:26:48.000 Especially sexually, they're very modest. 0.96
02:26:52.000 Nanking comes to mind. 0.99
02:26:53.000 I beg.
02:26:54.000 Should go well.
02:26:55.000 You got anything you want to add or follow ups or anything?
02:26:59.000 Yeah.
02:27:00.000 No, that's about it.
02:27:01.000 Well, right on, brother.
02:27:02.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:27:03.000 Well, it works, dude.
02:27:03.000 Don't imagine us naked next time.
02:27:05.000 That was a one time thing.
02:27:06.000 All right.
02:27:07.000 Oh, sorry, brother.
02:27:08.000 Yeah, first time's free.
02:27:08.000 First time's free.
02:27:09.000 Let's start charging.
02:27:11.000 All right.
02:27:12.000 Next up, we got Kilo.
02:27:14.000 What's up, Kilo?
02:27:15.000 Kilo.
02:27:15.000 It's a very weighted name.
02:27:17.000 Hey, guys.
02:27:17.000 Kilo Charlie.
02:27:18.000 It's your family neighborhood prepper here.
02:27:20.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:27:22.000 Thanks for calling.
02:27:23.000 My question is for the whole panel.
02:27:26.000 In regards to the investigation of Ilya and Omar, If memory serves me correct, my understanding is that her naturalization was in question because she supposedly came over here as a minor at 17 years old with her father.
02:27:43.000 And then reports came out that they lied about her age, that she was already 18, a legal adult, and not eligible to get in free admission with her dad.
02:27:52.000 Correct.
02:27:53.000 Have you all heard any of this?
02:27:54.000 And has there been any more developments on this angle to get her deported?
02:28:00.000 Well, that might be it.
02:28:02.000 We just don't know because the enforcement could be super broad and relate to other people that she's only tangentially involved in.
02:28:07.000 But yes, you are correct that the reports were that she was actually 18, but they lied and said she was 17 so that she would qualify.
02:28:14.000 And surprise, surprise, remember that like 20 year old guy who claimed he was 14 and then was like in high school or whatever?
02:28:18.000 Yeah.
02:28:19.000 They do this stuff.
02:28:20.000 Yep.
02:28:21.000 So.
02:28:23.000 The question will be is how can they.
02:28:26.000 In order to be able to use it in court, they would have to be able to come up with some sort of records to be able to demonstrate that she wasn't actually 18 or she wasn't actually 17 at the time.
02:28:34.000 I think that's probably going to be very difficult.
02:28:35.000 Yeah, it's not like Somalia has great record keeping. 1.00
02:28:39.000 They suck at everything else, but the record keeping was just impeccable. 1.00
02:28:44.000 So I don't know.
02:28:46.000 Yeah, we don't have a whole lot of information about what is actually being, you know, what's being investigated or whatever, but fingers crossed.
02:28:54.000 Yeah, fingers crossed.
02:28:56.000 Well, I remember the, you know, I was talking about that the investigation having possibly to do with the cause of the fact of her marrying her brother to help him get in and, or to get him to get his naturalization.
02:29:14.000 And that's part of what she could have been investigated for.
02:29:18.000 And then I happened to remember that.
02:29:20.000 And, Remember that being part of the story.
02:29:22.000 But yeah, I think you're right.
02:29:25.000 They don't have exactly birth certificates over there.
02:29:28.000 So, yeah.
02:29:29.000 Yeah.
02:29:31.000 Notoriously bad at recording.
02:29:32.000 It's like a rock, and then they hit it as many times as you are years or whatever. 0.89
02:29:36.000 And then they show you the chipped rock and say, look, 80.
02:29:39.000 There you go.
02:29:40.000 80 strikes of rock.
02:29:41.000 I figured out that place would be paradise.
02:29:42.000 You just need to get there. 0.98
02:29:45.000 Everything's standing in their way of Wakanda.
02:29:47.000 Missing bees.
02:29:49.000 That and a little vibranium. 0.99
02:29:52.000 Maybe that's what all the rings are supposed to be on their neck.
02:29:55.000 Count the years of their age.
02:30:06.000 I do think it's funny that they had to.
02:30:08.000 Let me give a shout out to you.
02:30:10.000 Now I got out of y'all's hair.
02:30:11.000 I want to shout out to all my fellow firefighters out there tonight fighting these wildfires across the country.
02:30:18.000 Keep them in your thoughts and prayers.
02:30:20.000 There's already been several of them killed in different places across the country.
02:30:24.000 So, Thank good thoughts and prayers for them.
02:30:28.000 And then you can check out my group, the Black Sheep Prepper on X at BSP underscore prepper.
02:30:37.000 And y'all have a good one.
02:30:38.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:30:40.000 Have a good one.
02:30:42.000 All right. 0.57
02:30:43.000 Last but not least, we got Wrath.
02:30:45.000 What's up, Wrath?
02:30:47.000 Hello, hello.
02:30:48.000 Sorry if there's a bit of background noise.
02:30:50.000 I'm in my car right now.
02:30:52.000 But my question is for the panel.
02:30:57.000 It's obvious that the wholesale pushing of pushing and enrollment into colleges has not only sparked a lot of communist sympathies, but also has heavily devalued and decreased the faith of our country, both religious and in the sense of patriotism.
02:31:21.000 What can we do to counter this loss of faith?
02:31:28.000 I mean, for faith, I would just say that.
02:31:31.000 One of the surest ways that you can actually transfer your faith over to your children is to take seriously their education.
02:31:37.000 Lila Rose, I think we all know her, she had this one thing.
02:31:40.000 She goes, You should be more concerned about your kids going to heaven than Harvard.
02:31:44.000 I thought it was funny that they had Sean Duffy on and they were talking about not wanting their daughter to go to Harvard because of the values there.
02:31:51.000 And everyone was like, Oh my gosh, why would you do that?
02:31:52.000 I'm like, Yeah, pretty much every conservative feels this way about Harvard at this point.
02:31:57.000 I think there's a couple of things to think about.
02:31:59.000 One is, like, on a political side, I still to this day, I used to vote against budgets all the time and it would piss off my colleagues.
02:32:06.000 But one of the reasons I would vote no, and I'm like, I don't understand why we are stealing money.
02:32:11.000 From conservatives in order to give it to universities sitting on $15 billion endowments to turn their kids into ungrateful communists.
02:32:18.000 You know, I don't understand why we do that.
02:32:20.000 We shouldn't be doing it.
02:32:20.000 It's not necessary.
02:32:21.000 So I do think that there actually should be an active pressure to defund a lot of these institutions of higher education, which are actually sources of a lot of the subversion that we were talking about earlier.
02:32:32.000 The other thing, too, is just how you educate and prepare your kids to go into this stuff is absolutely critical.
02:32:38.000 I have one daughter that's going to community college.
02:32:40.000 My son went into the military and wants to go into the trades because he wants to actually make money instead of accrue college debt.
02:32:46.000 And then my oldest daughter is married now and chose a different profession, which didn't require a college degree.
02:32:53.000 So, what I would say is that as you are raising your kid politically, push for politicians that are actually going to defund some of these institutions.
02:33:03.000 Personally, raise your kids to actually understand their faith. 0.79
02:33:06.000 A big problem that I will talk to Christian parents about when they're like, I don't know what happened when my kid went to college. 1.00
02:33:11.000 And then I'll ask them about how they talked about their faith. 1.00
02:33:13.000 And I say, okay, well, you didn't teach your kid your faith, you taught your kids an authority structure.
02:33:18.000 And that worked out fine when you were the main authority in their lives.
02:33:20.000 But the moment that they weren't, you didn't actually equip your kids to understand their faith or to properly or effectively argue for it or live it out.
02:33:27.000 So when you do do that, it's amazing how resilient your faith is to your kids because it becomes their own instead of something that you just believe.
02:33:34.000 But transferring your faith to your child is an important part and one of the primary functions that you should play as a parent.
02:33:40.000 And then adequately prepare them to be able to go into hostile environments.
02:33:43.000 And then also sit down with your kids and just ask the important question Do you need to go to college in order to do what you want to do in life?
02:33:52.000 Is there different routes?
02:33:53.000 Is there different things that you could do?
02:33:54.000 Is there trade schools?
02:33:55.000 Is there entrepreneurial functions?
02:33:57.000 Because this myth that you have to go to college in order to have a productive or economically viable career just isn't the truth.
02:34:05.000 And so, those are some of the things that I would recommend, both from the political side and as a parent's side, on how to either avoid that or turn your kids into the sort of people that can go in there and hold their own in a difficult conversation.
02:34:19.000 Either way, you should always teach your kids how to hold their own in a difficult conversation with respect to their faith.
02:34:26.000 Yeah, man.
02:34:27.000 You got anything?
02:34:28.000 Any follow up or anything?
02:34:33.000 How would you?
02:34:33.000 So you say, like, teach your kids your faith.
02:34:38.000 How would you do that?
02:34:39.000 A couple of ways.
02:34:41.000 One, you live it out because your most important testimony is what you actually do with your life.
02:34:45.000 If you say you believe one thing and then you constantly violate it in front of your kids, they're going to get the idea that you don't really believe it.
02:34:51.000 Two, you actually teach them about it and then you allow them to ask difficult questions and you engage with those questions.
02:34:59.000 A third thing that you do is you start when your kids get a little bit older.
02:35:03.000 Like, whenever my kids would regurgitate something that I knew they heard from me, but they probably didn't completely understand, I would immediately take something of an antagonist position.
02:35:11.000 I would make them defend it because at the same time that I was teaching them their faith, I was teaching them critical thinking. 0.74
02:35:16.000 Because I don't believe in Christianity because it's convenient, I believe in it because I think it's true.
02:35:21.000 And so I had to go through my own process of testing my faith. 0.96
02:35:23.000 And so that helped me prepare myself to both challenge my kids and teach them how to think about things and to include their faith critically.
02:35:31.000 The fourth thing that you can do is absolutely essential when your kids get to a certain age where they see you doing something that you told them not to do because of their faith, because of the morality, the objective morality that you've taught them, you have to be able to humble yourself and be able to admit to your kids, you know what?
02:35:49.000 You're right.
02:35:49.000 I'm wrong.
02:35:50.000 Because one of the things that solidifies in your child's mind is if the moment they catch you doing something contrary to what you've taught them, you just say, well, you know, I'm in charge.
02:36:00.000 This is my house, my rules.
02:36:02.000 What you've just told them is the rules are arbitrary.
02:36:05.000 You've told them that the laws are arbitrary.
02:36:06.000 It's just about who has authority.
02:36:08.000 It's not about what's actually right or wrong.
02:36:10.000 But the moment you actually signify to your kids that, you know what, I'm sorry, you are right.
02:36:15.000 And I want to congratulate you for having the courage to come and respectfully call me on this, it solidifies in their mind that these things are true because they're objective.
02:36:23.000 It's not just a question of who has authority.
02:36:26.000 And that's a kid that's far more likely to go into a hostile environment and say, no, no, no, I know what I believe.
02:36:30.000 I know what I believe because I believe it not just spiritually, but emotionally.
02:36:34.000 I believe it intellectually.
02:36:35.000 I've seen it play out in my own life, and it's the sort of thing that I want to replicate and build.
02:36:40.000 I always say the greatest compliment that any of my kids gave to me and my wife is that when you ask them what they want to do, they will say, I want to get married, I want to have kids, I want to homeschool them, and I want to raise them in the faith.
02:36:51.000 That's the greatest compliment they can give a parent because what they're basically saying is, the values you taught me, dad, mom, you guys lived them out in such a way and created an environment in such a way that I want to replicate it for my own children.
02:37:00.000 And that's something that they'll defend.
02:37:02.000 There you go.
02:37:06.000 You got anything you want to shout out?
02:37:10.000 Just two things.
02:37:13.000 If I could get prayers for my family, specifically for my brother, about a week ago I had found out that my father had passed.
02:37:22.000 And yeah, just a lot of grief, a lot of paperwork, and prayers for my brother because he lives in a city three hours away, but.
02:37:39.000 He's three hours away from family, and that's weighing a lot on him.
02:37:44.000 I already hear it, man.
02:37:45.000 Sorry to hear it.
02:37:45.000 Sure, dude.
02:37:46.000 Oh, right.
02:37:48.000 And then a final shout out, and this is actually kind of where this question came from.
02:37:55.000 Today I was part of an on campus Bible study for a fairly large campus in Buffalo, and I think we had 160 people sitting down to read and study the Bible.
02:38:10.000 It's killing.
02:38:10.000 That's great.
02:38:11.000 White pill.
02:38:12.000 Awesome.
02:38:13.000 Cool, man.
02:38:14.000 So, thank you for the call and have a nice night, everyone.
02:38:16.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
02:38:17.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:38:20.000 We'll ride on.
02:38:21.000 Tomorrow, we'll be joined by Naomi Best.
02:38:25.000 Cool.
02:38:26.000 We'll have some fun stuff this week.
02:38:28.000 Nick's always great to have you, man, anytime.
02:38:31.000 My pleasure.
02:38:31.000 Absolutely.
02:38:32.000 Always.
02:38:34.000 Everyone knows where you're based out of these days?
02:38:35.000 Yeah, they all know I'm in Tennessee.
02:38:37.000 Okay, right on.
02:38:37.000 I don't want to say it if people don't know, but yeah, man, anytime.
02:38:40.000 And then, you know, we'll be in D.C. in about a month.
02:38:42.000 It's going to be amazing.
02:38:43.000 Everybody else?
02:38:45.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:38:46.000 We're back tomorrow morning, and we'll see y'all then.