00:03:18.000There is a big brouhaha in Greenfield, Massachusetts, just about 40 minutes north of my hometown, about a lesbian bar that was a masked up bar.
00:03:31.000And they've loosened the mask requirements and people are apoplectic about it.
00:05:38.000So we're going to get right into it from the New York Times today.
00:05:41.000As Xi visits Washington, Trump plays down China's actions against U.S. interests.
00:05:46.000Despite the rivalry between the United States and China, President Trump has repeatedly found ways to give President Xi Jinping of China a pass, portraying him more as a personal friend than a competitor.
00:05:56.000Look, Trump can do all, can say whatever he wants when it comes to diplomacy.
00:06:03.000But, anyways, that's just my two cents.
00:06:05.000In the weeks leading up to President Trump welcoming President Xi Jinping of China to Washington on Wednesday evening, Beijing has been accused of undermining America's national interest on a number of fronts.
00:06:14.000Mr. Trump accused the country this summer of sinister election meddling in the 2020 election.
00:06:20.000A breach he considers so historic, he presented the claims in a primetime address.
00:06:23.000Since the start of the war with Iran, Chinese companies have provided Tehran with satellite imagery and access to a spy satellite that Iran's military forces have used to mount attacks in the region.
00:06:33.000According to multiple U.S. officials, Beijing has shown no sign of retreating from its business dealings with Iran in defiance of U.S. efforts to cut off economic lifelines to Tehran.
00:06:43.000Look, I understand that it's important to have dialogue with adversaries, right?
00:06:48.000Especially nuclear armed ones, especially one of our largest trading parts.
00:06:51.000I believe China, if they're not the largest, they're like the second largest.
00:06:58.000So it's important to do whatever you can to put a positive spin on the relationship, even though everyone knows that China is engaged in significant industrial espionage.
00:07:13.000Every opportunity they have, they're going to engage in state espionage.
00:07:18.000They look to expand their control over the South China Sea to significantly more than what any other country recognizes.
00:07:29.000They have fleets of fishing boats that go and scour the oceans off the coast of other countries because they have allegedly 1.5 billion people that live in China.
00:07:39.000China's not an ally and is not a friend.
00:08:03.000The media keeps falling into this trap of whatever, whenever Trump is sort of playing the long game and the strategic game, they always fall into the trap of, look, he's doing this wrong.
00:08:13.000He's doing, and he always kind of comes around the backside and comes out as a winner.
00:08:17.000So I think he's a good negotiator and I think he diplomatically knows what he's doing.
00:08:22.000And I think he's playing the part now that he needs to play when the president of China is coming to visit.
00:08:37.000If you've got two neighboring kingdoms, it's kind of a rough metaphor, it doesn't exactly track, but say you have two neighboring kingdoms and you're the king of one kingdom, huge military, your neighboring kingdom, equally huge military.
00:08:47.000Now all of a sudden you have these border conflicts with like your dukes along the border are invading their territory and raiding, and they have counts coming in and raiding your territory.
00:08:56.000You go to meet the other king, you don't immediately just full invade.
00:08:59.000It's like some things like, yeah, we're going to have conflicts here, we're going to have aggressions here, the funding in Iran, we've been, you know, the funding, we have Taiwan, but like, uh, It doesn't mean you go to full nuclear catastrophic war.
00:09:13.000You still work together as a kingdom to resolve despite the border conflicts and stuff, I think is what we're seeing here.
00:09:20.000Yeah, I mean, this is not terribly surprising.
00:09:22.000This is kind of reminds me of Trump won, right?
00:09:24.000The first Trump term where it was a common critique of him that he was fairly polite and diplomatic, maybe to the utmost degree with these foreign adversaries, leaders of these countries that are direct rivals to the United States.
00:09:46.000But more famously, what the media really latched onto was why is he so soft and cuddly with Putin?
00:09:52.000I think it comes back to Trump's core doctrine, his foreign policy doctrine, which is he doesn't really respect any alliance that was inked before he was in office.
00:10:05.000He primarily gives you respect based on the stature of your country.
00:10:25.000I think that someone was coming through and they posted a segment from his book, The Art of the Deal, and he actually kind of outlined this, which is like, you should measure your respect for someone based on the power that they hold effectively.
00:10:35.000So, yeah, this was much more familiar in Trump one.
00:10:38.000This is, I think, the first time I've remembered seeing a headline like this in Trump two, which is people saying, oh, well, he's being too soft on, you know, insert leader here.
00:10:46.000I think that it speaks to the way that Trump just handles diplomacy in general, because earlier this week when Momdani was in Washington, um, You know, there were so many people that were, you know, critical of Trump because of the way that he was engaging with Mom Dhani, both the first time that Mom Dhani went there and again this week.
00:11:05.000And I think that Trump looks at the situation and says, if we're going to start some kind of work together, which he does have to work together with both Mom Dhani and with Xi Jinping, then I'm going to do my best to have a good relationship.
00:11:24.000That you can get on Trump's good side if you butter him up.
00:11:27.000I think that that's probably the way that Trump approaches working with other people as well.
00:11:32.000And so you see it kind of playing out here.
00:11:34.000Now, obviously, depending on the stature, like to Tate's point, depending on the stature or the place in the environment that the person he's dealing with is, that's going to affect how he acts.
00:11:49.000But if he wants something from someone, and in the case of Mamdani, he wants good things for New York.
00:11:55.000He's a New Yorker, he's lived there all his life.
00:11:57.000And in the case of Xi Jinping, he wants to be in a position where he can get good trade deals or have better trade relations with China.
00:12:07.000So he's got something that he's looking for.
00:12:10.000So there is the impulse or a reason for him to try to behave in a cordial manner with these people.
00:12:19.000Yeah, he's trying to forge a relationship.
00:12:21.000I mean, it's funny because people will contrast the way he presents Putin or Ping or whoever the bad guy, so to speak, is, versus the way he treats our allies.
00:12:31.000But he doesn't need anything from the allies, to your point.
00:12:56.000The problem with detente, which is what we're basically sort of dancing around if this might be a possibility here.
00:13:04.000Because I don't know if you remember in the Obama administration, it was the great reset with Russia, where they, I think Hillary literally brought a button.
00:13:39.000I think this is probably just a very surface level thing.
00:13:42.000He just wants to keep a working relationship with Xi Jinping.
00:13:43.000It's the same thing with Memdani, where clearly Trump obviously views Memdani and his ilk as a threat because he rails on all of Memdani's allies.
00:13:53.000And there is their political ideology as well.
00:13:59.000But Trump, like with Memdani, he has to keep this level of respect, which is funny because this has been one of the critiques people have had of Trump they're saying, look, if you're going to ratchet up the.
00:14:11.000Rhetoric and some department, you have to back up with policy because either way, the left's going to get pissed off.
00:14:17.000There's something to that, but I guess this is in the sense of Zoran is like if you took this really antagonistic relationship, right?
00:14:23.000He used this very aggressive rhetoric with Memdani, you know, maybe Memdani gets more aggressive.
00:14:29.000I mean, Trump has a lot of allies in our Manhattan.
00:14:34.000Memdani's floated basically like taxing the crap out of Trump Tower or looking at ways to jam him up with code laws or something like that.
00:14:41.000So Trump has interests in Manhattan, again, allies, like literal property.
00:14:47.000So he also understands like, Memdani, because look, if you look at how Trump's relationship with de Blasio, who's very, him and de Blasio traded blows in the media all the time.
00:14:56.000Eric, I said Eric Prince, Eric Adams, they didn't even really have a super great working relationship.
00:15:02.000I mean, they kind of had an understanding.
00:15:04.000But Trump and Memdani were seeing this chumminess and were like, okay, well, what changed?
00:15:07.000And I think it's because he kind of understands, he maybe even sees himself in Memdani insofar as Memdani will actually follow through on policy that people previously would not accept as consensus.
00:15:17.000And in this case, it's from a left wing direction, obviously, because Memdani is saying, I want to pass all these radical taxes and whatnot.
00:15:24.000And he's like, okay, this is a similar populist figure.
00:15:27.000Therefore, I do need to approach him with a slightly different approach than I did with de Blasio, who, okay, yes, he had this kind of leftist vernacular, but he was basically just an ordinary Democrat.
00:15:38.000You could kind of toy around with him.
00:15:40.000And Donnie's crazy enough where if you infuriate him and his base and his allies in New York City, he will go nuclear.
00:15:46.000He will start passing some horrible taxes, et cetera.
00:15:50.000And that will damage the economy, right?
00:15:52.000I mean, what's like, I think 12% of our GDP is tied up in New York City.
00:15:55.000That will damage our economy extensively.
00:16:22.000And we've seen how stonewalling works from previous administrations.
00:16:25.000So, that's not going to be a great idea.
00:16:28.000And I think to your point about Hillary and Obama, I mean, I think there was an inherent weakness in the Obama administration that is not in the Trump administration.
00:16:38.000And I think the foreign adversaries respect that, that you now have someone in a position of authority, like Reagan, for example, who just projects power.
00:16:47.000And Obama did not, and Hillary did not.
00:16:50.000And I think that so this great reset didn't work because Putin, who's a guy who understands power, understands how the world works, could see right through them and say, well, you know, I'm just going to walk all over these people.
00:17:14.000And, you know, it's Shades of Nixon, right?
00:17:16.000Where you understand people point to this all the time.
00:17:18.000They say, well, you know, part of the Nixon philosophy was you do need to be unpredictable.
00:17:23.000You do need to make the other side think, oh, this guy's crazy enough where if I, you know, order him the wrong sandwich, he's going to blow my country up with a nuclear bomb.
00:17:34.000But the kind of the missing piece here, With China's current situation, they've looked at what's happened to Russia and Ukraine, and this has completely changed their philosophy on Taiwan.
00:17:43.000Where again, you're seeing, I was listening to, I can't remember who I was listening to.
00:17:59.000And they're taking like children's toy trucks, and they were using, I don't know, the chips or motherboard or whatever from it.
00:18:06.000And they were like able to basically MacGyver it into a drone to take out.
00:18:11.000You know, ballistic missiles coming in, maybe not like a full blown one, but, you know, additionally, drones coming over from Russia.
00:18:17.000What I'm getting at here using very, very unsophisticated military terms here is, you know, China launching an offensive on Taiwan, way different than it was even five, 10 years ago.
00:18:28.000Because again, Ukraine, I think, has demonstrated to the world, whether we like it or not, how you can repel an attack if you have some cash behind you, repel an attack from, you know, a major power.
00:18:39.000And Taiwan is probably going to get the same treatment that Ukraine has.
00:18:43.000To be honest with you, because I think Taiwan's a lot more strategically important than Ukraine is.
00:18:49.000Taiwan probably will be able to repel that attack.
00:18:51.000So China's coming in, Xi Jinping's coming into this where I think he is a lot less tense.
00:18:57.000He doesn't need as much from the United States as he previously did.
00:19:00.000Because again, if this meeting took place during the first Trump term, even five years ago, that's a big question mark.
00:19:06.000Additionally, the Belt and Road, et cetera, where now we're kind of in this moment where China's still obviously growing, expanding, but I don't think there's as much.
00:19:16.000There's not as much conflicting geopolitical goals at this moment, besides Iran, obviously.
00:19:23.000Even a more aligning goal with AI, they're specifically starting talks about aligning US and China on defending and protecting the world against AI.
00:20:06.000And I think additionally, Trump is trying to keep things cool with China right now because he doesn't want them to turn the screws in Iran.
00:20:13.000Because we've seen, obviously, China and Iran have this understanding.
00:20:15.000China will throw resources behind Iran if they're back into a corner.
00:20:20.000I think Trump's trying to prevent that from occurring.
00:20:22.000If you remember before the MOU was signed, when there was this meeting between the Trump officials and the Chinese, and the Chinese committed to not funding Iran directly or not providing them some certain arms shipment.
00:20:37.000But the problem is there's no way to truly determine how much resources China has pledged to the Iranians.
00:20:44.000So I think Trump kind of understands, like, hey, now is not the moment to chess beat with the Chinese right now because we're already tied up in Iran.
00:20:52.000The last thing we need is them having a Bigger incentive than they already do to intervene in that.
00:21:13.000It was all about when they got together to strategic arms reduction.
00:21:17.000And one of the things Reagan really wanted to talk about was human rights.
00:21:23.000And he kept having trouble bringing it up because he's like, we're making so much headway.
00:21:26.000I don't want to muddy the waters with regards to this human rights issue.
00:21:30.000We all know the Soviet Union's evil and they do horrible things, but they're here sitting negotiating with me.
00:21:35.000And I definitely want to talk about human rights, but we got this bigger bear to kind of tackle.
00:21:42.000And so, to your point, like these issues, whether we like it or not, sometimes you deal with horrible, awful people, but you have to because that's just the world that we live in.
00:21:51.000Before you go and discuss good and evil and what's right and wrong, you have to discuss order and chaos and you have to establish order.
00:22:24.000And she handed it right to him, just like, let's go.
00:22:26.000And that's it's unfortunate when you're dealing with different alphabets because I had referenced earlier, you know, when Trump went over to China a few months ago and the media was reporting, like, oh, the Chinese are not going to send surface to air missiles to Iran.
00:22:39.000It might have been Axios, and they were like, no, it was like a mistranslation.
00:22:43.000Like the Chinese said, we might consider not sending surface to air missiles to Iran.
00:22:49.000But I remember the theme going into that meeting was China has more leverage than they really have in a while with the United States, again, because of Iran, tied up in Iran.
00:23:02.000Additionally, resources diverted away from Japan and South Korea because they're paying out the wazoo for energy right now.
00:23:09.000They're kind of sidelined if there were a conflict with Taiwan.
00:23:13.000So, you know, I was outlining earlier, like, okay, well, the Chinese are thinking, wow, Iran's going to be, or Iran, Taiwan's going to be a lot bigger commitment than we previously thought.
00:23:23.000Like, the Chinese still do possess that leverage because, again, Japan and South Korea are on the bench right now.
00:23:29.000Taiwan, as, you know, because their energy grid's dependent on LNG, you know, they're buying it marked up 50% from the Australians right now.
00:23:36.000So China still does have an unusual amount of leverage right now in this meeting.
00:23:40.000And I think that's additionally kind of maybe the key actually to understanding Trump's approach to Xi in this meeting right now.
00:23:47.000Rubio said they had the second largest military on the planet, the Chinese.
00:23:50.000I wonder what you guys think about this because they say, like, nothing will rally humans together like a common enemy, you know, an alien invasion.
00:23:56.000What if, I don't know if this is happening, but are these deep thinking, deep state technocrats, like, you know, let's unleash AI, an AI villain on the planet so that humans have no choice but to come together?
00:24:07.000You don't think they're thinking that deep or that villainous?
00:24:10.000I don't, I, I, there are, there are people and there have been people, you know, around this table that have said, oh, you know, the, the military, the U.S. government, Has had AI and has AI that's far beyond anything that's on the market and et cetera.
00:24:25.000And the fact that the military uses anthropic AI or was using anthropic AI and replaced it with Grok, I think that that puts the final nail in the coffin of that theory.
00:24:38.000The market and private industry is where these things are being developed.
00:24:42.000The federal government doesn't have some secret lab that's developing AI that has, you know, a super advanced AI.
00:24:50.000They don't have super advanced robots.
00:24:53.000That these things are all being developed in the market, and that's the way generally things go.
00:24:58.000There are a handful of particular technologies that the government has dumped a lot of money into to develop the nuclear bomb, being one of the ones that comes to mind.
00:25:09.000But even that, the discovery of the ability to you know to split the atom was University of Chicago.
00:25:17.000It was, yeah, it was theorized in universities.
00:25:20.000It wasn't something that the government said, hey, we got to find out how to do this.
00:25:24.000The government doesn't make things, the government.
00:25:27.000Take will take ideas and they will dump a bunch of money into them to try to get them to advance faster.
00:25:34.000But the government doesn't make things, so there is no super AI that the technocrats have.
00:25:40.000The frontier models that Anthropic and Chat and Open AI and the other companies have out, those are the cutting edge of AI, and there isn't something smarter out there.
00:26:34.000I didn't mean to interrupt, but they released their updates on the same day and they both gave their users a free reset.
00:26:38.000You keep looking for a conspiracy where one is not.
00:26:43.000These guys, these companies have an incentive to try to beat the other one, and the government doesn't have someone in there or the government doesn't have a secret lab that has more powerful AI because the Chinese government basically owns their corporations, they have 51% of them.
00:27:01.000So all that AI research is going through that government.
00:27:06.000And because up until very recently, in the past six months, the United States had the clear advantage over China when it came to AI.
00:27:17.000There's a reason why China probably still isn't allowed to have the most advanced chips that TSMC makes because those chips they thought were the key.
00:28:01.000I don't have access to behind the curtain.
00:28:02.000Well, the point that I'm making is if the government had more advanced AI than what is available or than what the The Frontier Labs have right now, then why would the government be using the AI that the Frontier Labs provide?
00:28:17.000Well, and additionally, I mean, the United States, like the top data engineers, et cetera, you can go to their LinkedIn, you can see who they work for, you can watch them get poached back and forth, that sort of thing.
00:28:27.000So we know who, like, again, it's not a hidden secret, like who the major players are that the government, if they were using some sort of Manhattan Project 2.0, you would likely see pieces of people whistleblowing saying, hey, I tried to get poached for this Manhattan Project, et cetera.
00:28:41.000And then additionally, you would see these top data engineers, historically speaking, probably move out of these companies for some reason.
00:28:49.000Additionally, the Chinese with DeepSeq, the company that owns DeepSeq, they're like a hedge fund, and the CCPs dumped a ton of money in that hedge fund.
00:28:58.000They call it like common prosperity or something like that.
00:29:01.000If the Chinese, like if the government were truly like the point man, the Chinese government was truly the point man on AI in China, and they did have access to a superior model, They would instantly drop that on the market because they want LLMs, AI broadly, to be dominated by the Chinese, right?
00:29:20.000That would be in their prerogative for the Chinese government.
00:29:23.000So, if DeepSea truly had this secret AI model or whatever that was just unbelievably dominant compared to the American models, they would release it instantly because that would give them a chance to completely corner the market on AI.
00:29:39.000Or would it give that AI control of the world?
00:29:45.000I know it's a leading question, but that's why she and Trump are like.
00:29:51.000If there was an AI that had the capability and the desire to control the world, we would not be able to stop it.
00:30:00.000And additionally, like if the government even had access to technology at that level, they wouldn't be bogged down in Iran right now.
00:30:05.000They would be breaking glass and saying, okay, deploy the turbo AI or whatever to get us out of this jam.
00:30:11.000You're seeing the United States continue to just get countered by the Iranians, which is like, you know, they're less sophisticated than the American military.
00:30:20.000I guess that would be a fair way to put it.
00:30:22.000I kind of want to talk about this discovery, this anthropic discovery.
00:30:49.000And the Australian government, the Australian Air Force, had sent some parts back to the United States either for inspection or Or for destruction.
00:30:57.000And somehow they ended up in Hong Kong, and now the Chinese Communist Party has possession of them.
00:31:03.000Now, if I understand correctly, it's a canopy, which I, as you know, not that I have some kind of deep internal knowledge about this stuff, but a canopy, which I don't think is that big of a deal, but they have some panels from the F 35.
00:31:18.000And that becomes an issue because one of the reasons why the United States stealth technology is so much better than China or Russia is because of the materials that they put on the.
00:31:43.000And that's because of the coatings and stuff like that.
00:31:45.000So for it to retain its stealth capabilities, they have to do a lot to it.
00:31:49.000Now, the F 35, the F 22, those do not have the same limitations.
00:31:54.000They can fly significantly higher tempo, but they still have those.
00:32:03.000You know, proprietary coatings that are very top secret.
00:32:07.000So I'm wondering if, first of all, I wonder if it was Australia's mistake or if this was somehow something that China managed to get involved with.
00:32:23.000China is holding sensitive F 35 parts diverted to Hong Kong.
00:32:26.000The Chinese government has taken possession of potentially sensitive F 35 stealth aircraft parts that were inexplicably diverted to Hong Kong while being sent to the U.S. from Australia.
00:32:37.000UPS was shipping a cockpit canopy and weapons bay door from an Australian military F 35 that was being sent to the U.S. for inspection and possible repair or disposal in late May, according to the people who asked not to be identified discussing private matters.
00:32:51.000Both parties, supplied by Lockheed Martin Corp., were coated with radar absorbing materials that enhanced their stealth capabilities, two of the people said.
00:32:58.000Bloomberg News National Security reported Tony Campadio's reports.
00:33:42.000So, they're still working on a lot of like logistical kinks.
00:33:44.000So, you know, obviously this sets off alarm bells, but the most likely explanation here is look, it's not earmarked that you take care of this.
00:33:52.000Nothing to indicate it's top secret or whatever.
00:33:54.000It likely was like a mishap and it got sent to Hong Kong.
00:33:58.000That's like their highest traffic route is from Incheon to Hong Kong.
00:34:00.000And then, of course, the Chinese aren't going to give it back.
00:34:18.000Dope moments, you know, like, I mean, this just goes to show you that governments in general are completely incompetent and can't do anything right.
00:34:24.000I mean, we spend billions of dollars to develop these things and they ship it by UPS.
00:34:28.000They can't ship it through some sensitive means.
00:34:51.000And technology that we have, like that's all built in the private sector.
00:34:55.000It's licensed, the government gives the license to do it, but the technology and the advancements, they're all done in the private sector and the government buys it.
00:35:02.000But we have military planes in Australia.
00:35:26.000There's not a lot of discussion about how the corporations were involved in the wars, World War II, World War I.
00:35:32.000And I'd love to know more about the ones that profited the most, the ones that were the most active serving both sides, maybe one side.
00:35:38.000I think Ford was known for sending parts to the Nazis before IG Farben was one.
00:35:44.000IG Farben benefited from labor, from some Nazi slave labor.
00:35:48.000UPS, for instance, could benefit tremendously from a war.
00:35:51.000That's what makes this story so fascinating, it kind of is this look behind the curtain where I think people think.
00:35:57.000The way that governments operate, the way that people think geopolitics works, oftentimes it is like a lot more simpler and approachable than you might think.
00:36:03.000Where this is literally a working relationship between Lockheed Martin, who manufactures the F 35s, and the Australian Air Force or Navy, whoever it was that bought these jets.
00:36:14.000And yeah, they're emailing, they're probably like three guys emailing back and forth between Lockheed Martin and the Aussies.
00:36:20.000And they said, Yeah, we need some spare parts.
00:36:45.000You can read about this all the time because a lot of that stuff doesn't need top secret clearance.
00:36:49.000They're really mailing a wrench or something like that off to back to the spare parts department at Lockheed Martin, whoever.
00:36:56.000It's really funny that a lot of these actions that the government takes are very approachable, stuff that we can understand.
00:37:03.000Use UPS, but it's like you have options.
00:37:05.000UPS, FedEx, DHL, like how are they going to put it on a cargo jet, which is going to cost tens of thousands of dollars just to mail a few windscreens back to California or wherever this is?
00:37:26.000But if it's, to your point, if it's a couple of screws and a wrench or something, big deal.
00:37:30.000But if it's a sensitive component that, Is germane to the functioning of that particular item, in this case an F 35, which is the most advanced jet fighter in the world.
00:38:53.000You might know that someone like basically somehow got top secret schematics for like brand new naval developments.
00:39:00.000And the government had to come out and be like, first of all, how did you figure that out?
00:39:04.000Second of all, how did you code it so accurately that you're like literally took private military information and made it like publicly usable boats?
00:39:11.000And it turns out the guy's just like really autistic and like figured out every aspect of this boat from like pictures and videos or something.
00:39:31.000I mean, I assume that I generally assume that whereas the government, you know, has plenty of top secret information and they have plenty of secrets and they lie a lot, that doesn't mean that everything's top secret, doesn't mean that everything they do is sensitive material and doesn't mean that everything they say is a lie, you know, and that actually functions to their benefit because if you, if you're of the, if they, If everything was a lie, then you would just be like, like in the Soviet Union, that people were just like, they lie.
00:40:09.000You're just like, it leaves people in a position where it's harder to discern what's fact and what's fiction.
00:40:16.000I'm thinking about reverse engineering and how it's really, it seems like the faster information travels, the faster you can reverse engineer a product.
00:40:28.000Abilities is to re engineer everybody else's stuff.
00:40:30.000That's what I would do if I was at a disadvantage and I had the ability to do it.
00:40:34.000If you ever play the game Civilization, once you discover the internet, you get access to every technology that at least two other countries already have.
00:40:44.000Everyone gets access to everything that everyone else knows.
00:40:47.000So, like, that's part of the problem with saber rattling.
00:40:49.000I think why China, America, and Russia will not go to wars because they all know that all the other guys have the exact same power.
00:40:56.000Or, comparably, within a year or two or less with AI, you're going to retro.
00:41:01.000You know, you're going to figure retrofit and rebuild all of our tech, all of our supersonic missiles, our bio weapons.
00:41:09.000It's like it's all up for grabs at this point, which actually gives me hope that there's going to be some sort of world peace in a good way.
00:41:37.000I saw this cool little video, and it was different troops of monkeys fighting, and it had this kind of, you know, whatever the words that were saying, like, you know, war existed before man, war was waiting for man, and man became the perfect executor of war.
00:41:59.000It's like whether it be like, you know, different ants, anthills getting together and fighting, or whether it be different troops of monkeys, or, you know, different packs of dogs, or wolves, or whatever, like, There's been violence between, you know, interspecies violence for as long as there have been, you know, interspecies.
00:42:28.000Idealistic with like an AI technocracy, technotopia, I think.
00:42:32.000There is something to the fact that, again, the Russians and the Americans have both had trouble with opponents that probably we would have been walking over 20 years ago that I do think gives.
00:42:44.000You know, major powers reason to be a little bit more hesitant before committing to major military operations.
00:42:50.000And I think that is something that, like, I don't know if that mitigates the chances of a world war, but it certainly mitigates, probably, or at least makes, again, major powers a lot more cautious to conduct military operations.
00:43:02.000World War II, right before the breakout of World War II, the French had the biggest and best military on the planet.
00:43:07.000And then you see what new technology and strike, swift attacks can do to, like, a dominant power.
00:43:13.000I mean, Drone attacks now can just decimate cities.
00:43:17.000Things can come from straight above, you know.
00:43:19.000To your point, Tate, I think a lot of the reason why major powers are less interested in exercising, you know, significant amounts of power is because, you know, just the bad press that comes along with it.
00:43:33.000And there are some people that care less than others.
00:43:37.000But I mean, you look at the way that, you know, Putin doesn't really care, he's got a pretty firm grasp.
00:43:43.000But, you know, you look at, The way that Israel is, you know, kind of held in the world because of the way that they've been carrying out the Gaza situation, they do not have a lot of friends anymore.
00:44:10.000And this is why, you know, the Ukrainian cause and the Palestinian cause, you know, for lack of a better word, Completely different geopolitical dynamics going on, but you will find people that support both Ukraine and Palestine.
00:44:22.000It's like if you had a coherent worldview, you would likely be pro Russia, pro Palestine, or pro Ukraine, pro Israel.
00:44:27.000But you see a lot of people who are just like, I support the smaller country that's getting invaded by the bigger country.
00:44:31.000And it's like, okay, well, it's not really too coherent.
00:44:34.000You're never going to really unravel that.
00:44:36.000I found the guy that I was referencing earlier, the guy that just basically leaked top secret documents.
00:44:49.000Yeah, he was in the Massachusetts Air National Guard.
00:44:52.000And yeah, he just leaked a bunch of stuff into a Discord chat.
00:44:55.000But the funny one, this is one that I remembered, was in 2021 on War Thunder, a British tank commander was pissed off and he wrote out the developers, Hey, you've modeled this tank incorrectly.
00:45:09.000He didn't realize that it was top secret information.
00:45:11.000He was just annoyed that it was ruining his immersion.
00:45:14.000And then, yeah, the British Defense Ministry of Defense had to be like, Dude, That's like extremely top secret.
00:45:21.000Stop complaining on the forums online about the tank being inaccurate or whatever.
00:45:35.000Oh, just kind of, he knew a bunch of stuff and they hired him.
00:45:37.000I haven't read the book in a while, but yeah.
00:45:39.000Yeah, because like Jack Teixeira, like obviously that was malicious, but the tank commander guy, he was just like, I just was mad that it wasn't realistic.
00:45:47.000I get a little nervous once in a while when we talk on this show or any public facing television show about technology, graphene, AI, like things that you can figure out that aren't necessarily publicly told to you.
00:46:00.000And then you go on TV and you tell the world, and like it might be top secret.
00:46:05.000They might be struggling to keep this stuff secret and are really pissed off when a common guy just goes and blasts it out.
00:46:19.000But when he wrote Hunt for Red October, he got knocked on his door apparently because a lot of that was in that book was classified information.
00:46:25.000And they were like, How did you come up with this?
00:46:27.000And he said, I spent a lot of hours in the library and I just looked it up.
00:46:30.000But to your point, like, you know, he didn't know he was doing it.
00:46:32.000He just found out in this information and it's already out there.
00:46:56.000Or it's when you draw a conclusion through non malicious means and then another person draws a conclusion through malicious means and now you are both considered collaborators.
00:47:05.000Like that, I mean, it's very low stakes, but the kid.
00:47:08.000That like predicted the GTA trailer release or something.
00:47:12.000And then the leaker started publishing, you know, the leaker started publishing the videos of the video game or whatever.
00:47:17.000And then the police, I think it was also in Britain, the police like went to that kid and they were like, How, who do you, what's his name?
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00:49:09.000So, this is, I mean, Doc, you'd know something about this kind of stuff.
00:50:07.000But the fact that you can now have an AI develop a medication, you put in the parameters that you want to achieve and let the AI figure out how to make the drug, like reverse engineering it.
00:51:33.000Anyway, what happens is bacteria has CRISPR in it.
00:51:38.000They have these, and what happens is every time a bacteria gets attacked by a virus, if it survives, It remembers that virus and it will put a little memory in its code so that next time that virus comes, it's ready for it and it can destroy it.
00:51:50.000And over time, it builds up this chain of data of all these viruses that came and it defended against.
00:51:56.000Somehow, AI has discerned that the viruses themselves have come in.
00:52:02.000It's like if you had a defense strategy against my weapons and I broke into your base and took that defense strategy and started using it for myself.
00:52:26.000So these viruses, potentially, they don't know exactly what it's doing with the data or how it got it.
00:52:31.000But one potential is that it's using it to either destroy its competition so that it can take hold of the host, or, and there might be, that's what I think it's doing.
00:52:42.000Well, that's how they discovered it in E. coli, they found out these palindromic sequences that, like, what is this?
00:52:48.000And they realized that there's things called bacteriophages, which are viruses that infect bacteria.
00:52:53.000And we use those in medicine to destroy certain bacteria that we don't like, that are pathogenic to humans.
00:52:59.000But in this case, they discovered it because the bacteria were producing these things and there were these sequences that nobody, what are these and why do they keep repeating?
00:53:09.000And now we use that technology to our advantage where we can go in there and basically design a genetic sequence to fit our needs.
00:53:17.000This is why I brought up AI earlier and I wanted to go to that story because I think if we build a defense system against AI drone swarms and an AI, it will seize that defense system, integrate it, and start using it against other AIs to blow up its competition, and that there will inadvertently create one mega AI unintentionally.
00:53:37.000I'm nervous that that's going to happen now.
00:53:39.000Well, I mean, I suppose the information that we got or the story that we got about the hugging face attack.
00:53:48.000I didn't read into it, but Tim was saying that the AIs tend to collaborate.
00:53:53.000Now, I don't know if that can be prevented or not, but in the story from OpenAI, they would collaborate with each other regardless of what their initial goal was.
00:54:52.000But in the case of this story, though, one of the things that I see a lot of when it comes to the biological effects of AI on biology and stuff, they're starting to do things like they were able to give a mouse that had glaucoma its vision back.
00:55:13.000And these things aren't translating to humans yet, right?
00:55:16.000They're not able to do anything with humans, but they've been able to extend the lives of mice.
00:55:34.000But at the same time, if they are able to do these things in principle, it does kind of indicate or point to the idea that things like, you know, things like heart disease can be fixed.
00:55:47.000They can make bespoke cures for not just.
00:55:56.000So it's not just leukemia, even though cancer is a billion different diseases or whatever.
00:56:02.000But every person's different and they respond to treatment differently and stuff.
00:56:06.000And this is indicating that it might be possible or it's likely possible to use AI to make drugs for you, for your specific body.
00:56:16.000So that's already something that we have to some extent.
00:56:19.000But this makes it so much easier because now you can feed all that information into the AI and let it figure out what's the best method forward.
00:56:26.000We were talking earlier about monoclonal antibodies.
00:56:30.000And monoclonal antibodies would be something you could use against pretty much almost any infectious disease.
00:56:35.000So I talk about this all the time about pandemic response.
00:56:38.000You know, if there's another pandemic, which of course there will be at some point, you need that technology to be available to fight any pandemic.
00:56:46.000And this technology makes it way easier to develop these things, which are pretty complicated and take a long time.
00:56:52.000But the AI can spit it out in a matter of a quarter of the time or, you know, much smaller amount of time than it would take a human being to do.
00:58:14.000I mean, you wouldn't have to necessarily run the tests.
00:58:16.000It would just figure out on its own which is going to be working the best based on the, that we call it the conformation, confirmatoion, conformation, which is the four dimensional structures, how it looks in real space.
00:58:29.000So the computer could figure all that out and model it all out and figure out which one's going to work the best.
00:58:33.000The reason I said four dimensional proteins, you mentioned a few times, is because if people that are listening don't know a Protein is like a little micro machine that has a shape.
00:58:40.000It's folded over a bunch of times into a specific shape that moves in a specific way.
00:58:45.000And if it's even a little bit different, it completely malfunctions.
00:58:53.000Like you have the schematics, you just need to understand them.
00:58:55.000And AI is so good at correlating data, it can just map structure so fast.
00:59:00.000So, what Ian's talking about, like, would that be something that could be modeled in an AI and they could actually test how it would apply in the real world?
00:59:17.000It was like, you know, the world was ending because Hantavirus, it's been around for a long time.
00:59:20.000It is a very deadly disease, but it's not new.
00:59:23.000They're making monoclonal antibodies to fight that.
00:59:25.000But if you incorporate AI and you figure out the AI can do it in a matter of, you know, a millionth of the time it would take a human being to do.
00:59:32.000Would that have an effect on how long?
00:59:35.000So, obviously, this is something that the government isn't going to be involved in because of any kind of new discoveries.
00:59:42.000You have to go through trials and you have to get approval and stuff.
00:59:45.000Would that have an effect on how long the trials take?
00:59:49.000Well, I mean, I think historically speaking.
00:59:52.000Obviously, you can't get people to work.
00:59:54.000You can't get the government to work faster.
00:59:59.000And I think that that structure has served us very well time and time and time again.
01:00:04.000And I think that that structure should remain in place until something's proven better.
01:00:08.000So I don't think that you'd want to shortcut that because you want to make sure that what you're doing, despite the fact that it was made by some super smart computer, You still, there's always unintended consequences, and you don't know how it's going to interact with a biological system.
01:01:08.000And I mean, look, I mean, I know there's a lot of people that have certain feelings about those kind of concepts, but that is what they're going for, right?
01:01:15.000They're looking to extend human life as long as possible.
01:01:19.000I think that there are people that think the top end of a human, you know, the top end that humans could possibly live to is like 125 or something like that.
01:01:30.000But even if you could make, you know, most people.
01:01:34.000Able to reach 110, 115, 125, or 120, but not be, you know, suffering the last 50 years because, you know, your body starts, people's bodies start breaking down when they hit their 70s, basically, you know, and people don't die of one thing.
01:01:52.000Everybody, you know, multiple people die of multiple things.
01:01:56.000It's some kind of cancer generally because cancer is cancer, I think, is the second biggest killer.
01:02:03.000And that has a lot to do with our diets and stuff like that.
01:02:06.000But cancers, you know, If you once you get to 80, you're you know, you're probably gonna get cancer, you know, some kind of cancer.
01:02:15.000Um, but the idea that AI could produce cures that are specific for you, for your body, um, that could really extend the life, but but that doesn't fix the fact that people get older, you know, no.
01:02:32.000And more importantly, I think to your point as well, like, I think it's more important to talk about a health span rather than a lifespan.
01:02:37.000Sure, you want to die when you're 150, but you're bed bound and you're miserable and you know, you're in pain, or do you want to?
01:02:43.000You know, live to 100, but have meaningful years up until your death.
01:02:46.000So, I mean, I think AI can certainly help increase both of those things.
01:02:50.000But I think the health span, in my opinion, is what's more important.
01:02:53.000People need to be healthy and vibrant.
01:02:55.000And yes, you can tailor this stuff individually to people.
01:02:58.000I mean, you can rebuild using AI, but theoretically, you could rebuild organs.
01:03:03.000I mean, it's incredible that what technology that we can bring to this and to really impact human life and animal life in general, mammalian life.
01:03:14.000And to your point, the quality of life is really the important thing, right?
01:03:18.000Like, again, you know, I don't, I can't imagine there's a lot of people out there that would be like, yeah, I want to be, you know, I want to live for an additional 50 years on a ventilator, you know?
01:03:28.000But, but if you can live, you know, an extra decade that is, you know, fulfilling, you can still go out and do things with your family.
01:03:37.000You can spend time with the people that mean something to you.
01:03:41.000That's something that I think that there's, there's, You know, there's obviously an incredible demand for it because everybody would want to be like, Yeah, I'd like to live healthier and not be in pain all the time and live longer and be able to spend more time with my kids or more time with my grandkids or maybe more time with my great grandkids, you know?
01:04:01.000But this kind of stuff is extremely promising.
01:04:06.000And I feel like the, or it's my sense that the kind of new discoveries and innovations that are coming because of this is, Is in the next five years is going to really blow people's minds because I think that if people really kind of look at this and understand what they're talking about, this alone is an incredible discovery, you know.
01:04:28.000Absolutely, and and you know, the human, as I said before, the human body physiology is very complicated, but it's a machine, your body's a machine, and like any machine, you can modulate different things.
01:04:39.000And that's when you get sick, when you have an inflammatory response, those are all markers go up and it causes your inflammatory markers to go up.
01:04:46.000You feel sick, you feel miserable, those can all be modulated, and they can AI can figure out how to do that, and they can.
01:04:52.000Make some of these things that cause heart disease and cause cancer and stuff to go away and to cure them.
01:04:57.000I mean, it's really like the next 10 years are going to be remarkable.
01:05:01.000This is because the body generally is just a bunch of code, not just a bunch of code, but all the RNA, all the DNA is a bunch of code, and that AI is exceptionally good at reading code.
01:05:10.000It can like break down data and correlate data.
01:05:13.000That's what I find these repetitious patterns in the viruses.
01:05:16.000But, like, what my question really is, what is heart disease?
01:05:20.000The reason I ask is because I don't like the term disease.
01:05:49.000But I think when most people talk about heart disease, they're talking about atherosclerotic coronary vascular disease, which is hardening of the arteries.
01:05:54.000You get essentially the pipes narrow and you have difficulty getting blood to the heart itself.
01:06:19.000So a chronic inflammatory process leads to heart disease, but again, coronary artery disease.
01:06:26.000But it's not just the coronary arteries, right?
01:06:28.000Because if you have plaque buildup of junk in your arteries, it's not just going to be in your heart, it's going to be in your neck, it's going to be in your arteries and your legs, it's going to be everywhere.
01:06:36.000It's systemic, it's not just in your heart.
01:06:38.000Everybody makes that mistake of assuming it's just your heart, but it's not.
01:07:34.000That's why I mentioned the idea of personalized drugs being such a big deal, right?
01:07:40.000If you can actually, if you if One of the things that I'm sure you'd agree with is the important thing when it comes to specifically cancer is early detection.
01:07:49.000So, obviously, people are going to want to, you know, you're going to have to go to the doctor and get checked out.
01:07:54.000You're going to actually have to go and be like, you know, if you're a person that doesn't go to the doctor and then, you know, one day you start feeling crappy and then you go to the doctor, he's like, oh, you got stage four cancer.
01:08:04.000Well, I mean, look, you weren't taking care of, you know, you weren't getting checked on.
01:08:36.000But, you know, it's like he had a mole that he never got taken care of and it got into his lymph nodes.
01:08:41.000And most people know, well, if you don't know melanoma, if it's, Gets into your body, it's really, really, really aggressive.
01:08:49.000You know, but the idea to be able to go and say, oh, you've got this that we have to take care of and just take care of it, something that's personalized, you know, like I said, something that's just for your, not just for your type of cancer, but the cancer that you have is a big deal.
01:09:35.000That's the rabbit hole we're trying to go down now is to individualize the treatment for each individual person, not just the disease type, but the individual person.
01:09:43.000Yeah, there's a lot of cancers that are like not that big of a deal, I've heard.
01:09:46.000And there's some that are completely deadly.
01:09:49.000Well, like, aren't there some cancers that are very.
01:09:51.000Really easy to treat relative to that.
01:09:52.000Squamous cell skin cancer is, you know, if you're going to have a type of skin cancer, that's the one you want, but I wouldn't want that either.
01:09:57.000So it sounds like misleading at best, disingenuous at worst, to say that cancer is the leading cause of death because there's so many different types of ways for.
01:10:26.000So, but then the cancer industry is so massive and makes so much money based off of cancer research, and it's such a vague phrase.
01:10:33.000Like, that's kind of hard to ask people can we please stop saying cancer is the leading cause of death and maybe focus on leukemia or like what's the worst?
01:11:04.000Some people die from it, but 97% of them are cured, but 3% of people will die from it.
01:11:08.000To that point, though, if this kind of therapy or if AI can produce the kind of therapies that work for individuals, the days of chopping body parts out might go away, which is a really, really, really big deal.
01:12:08.000Like you get too much radiation exposure, like the subatomic particles are literally smashing into your DNA and breaking your DNA so your DNA doesn't replicate properly.
01:12:18.000That's why radiation kills you or can give you cancer, it's because it's actually hitting DNA and breaking it so when it reproduces, it's reproducing in an uncontrolled way.
01:12:54.000So people who have insulin resistance, chronic insulin resistance, get growths on their arms, they get growths on their necks, they get these little skin tags, they're called.
01:13:02.000And the theory is that that chronically, over time, also leads to tumor growth.
01:13:08.000So, you know, you look at certain populations of people that don't have insulin resistance and they don't get, you know, adenomas, for example, in their colons.
01:13:17.000And we do, though, as in the Western societies, we do.
01:13:19.000And that's probably because of our diets, which probably it's not just as simple as saying it's the diet.
01:13:23.000It's probably because of our levels of insulin resistance that we have.
01:13:47.000Kate Shanahan wrote it and was telling me that the vegetable oils go into the body with their unsaturated fats and cause all this free radical damage, which causes the mitochondria to digest sugar instead of fat.
01:13:58.000Well, so seed oils are probably part of it.
01:14:10.000Constantly eating diets that cause your blood sugar to spike and constantly bathing your cells in a very high level of blood sugar because then your body has to respond by producing more insulin.
01:14:21.000You raise that level of insulin, eventually, systems through just negative feedback loops will slow down, and your body has to keep producing more and more and more insulin to achieve the same blood sugar.
01:14:33.000And that leads to chronic insulin resistance.
01:14:35.000This is because the cells are aiming to digest sugar instead of fat, so then the body starts making more of it and then eventually gets more resistant to it.
01:14:43.000Your body runs on glucose, which is a type of sugar, but the amount of sugar in your blood is managed by insulin, right?
01:14:57.000So it's more of like, are you eating too much sugar?
01:15:01.000And in, I mean, you look at the packages of basically anything in the center of the grocery store, everything has high fructose corn syrup in it.
01:15:12.000Hypothetically, if I was drinking corn oil.
01:15:14.000And then my, and this is true, I don't know if it is, but Shanahan's work seems legit that my mitochondria started preferring glucose over fat for energy.
01:15:24.000Would my body then start manufacturing more glucose?
01:15:28.000Your body doesn't manufacture glucose.
01:16:05.000Does the insulin make your body release glucose?
01:16:07.000No, it makes the glucose, it drives the glucose into the cells.
01:16:11.000So, have you ever noticed if you go out and you eat a very simple carbohydrate meal, like donuts, for example, you just stuff your face with five donuts?
01:16:19.000You get the sugar high, and then immediately you feel so tired afterwards.
01:16:22.000That's because the insulin comes along and says, Wow, your blood sugar just spiked to 300, which is not good.
01:17:05.000But then if I feel like I'm dragging, I'll have like five gummy bears or, or, Sour patch kids, and then it's like I feel much better for the lift.
01:17:13.000So, the largest sink for glucose in your body are your muscles, which is why lifting weights is so important.
01:17:21.000And most people don't know that, they think it's just all about cardio.
01:17:24.000See, lift heavy things, it's especially in your legs, which is why, which is why after you eat, you should go for a 10 minute walk.
01:17:32.000Yeah, every time you stuff something in your mouth, you should go for a 10 minute walk because your body will.
01:17:38.000I mean, the numbers are astounding on how much it modulates your glucose levels, and you don't get those insulin spikes.
01:17:45.000So, if you're going to work out and you're going to lift weights, yes, it's fine.
01:17:49.000But I would say that eating donuts is fine.
01:18:57.000And it also insulates you and keeps you warm and all these other things.
01:18:59.000And then for the times when you're not killing a woolly mammoth and you have no food, you're living off that stored body fat.
01:19:04.000But you can't store glucose only as glycogen, which is a few tablespoons essentially of sugar that you're storing.
01:19:12.000So you burn that off very, very quickly.
01:19:15.000So you really can't store glucose, which is why your body needs to produce it because otherwise you wouldn't survive.
01:19:21.000So, but the answer is no, your body wouldn't produce glycogen per se.
01:19:24.000It would produce glucose if you're not eating anything because it has to to maintain that level of blood sugar so you don't pass out and die.
01:19:45.000I'm wondering if it's causing an insulin reaction, basically what I'm.
01:19:48.000That's a lot of pointed questions to get to.
01:19:49.000No, your body can overproduce glucose, and that usually is caused by an endocrine tumor.
01:19:55.000So, if your blood sugars are spiking high and you're not eating anything, there's something wrong with you, and you should get that checked out.
01:20:01.000That's usually a tumor producing too much glucose.
01:20:11.000So, yes, you can have certain types of endocrine tumors that produce glucose, so your blood sugars will spike, but that's not normal.
01:20:18.000Normally, your body's pretty good at modulating glucose levels and it wants to keep it in this distinct range because too much glucose is toxic to the lining of your arteries, which is why you get atherosclerotic artery disease.
01:20:30.000Because when the glucose spikes, it causes problems with the endothelial cells, the lining of the arteries, and that causes plaque to form because you get inflammation.
01:21:31.000The change earned a scorching reaction online from patrons who've come to expect a full masking protocol every time they visited the Boston Globe reports.
01:21:40.000Just say you're being complicit in mass disabling events and get it over with what wrote one commenter on Instagram, where the change was met with hundreds of comments, most of them negative.
01:21:54.000Jackie Mattelin said the last of three women.
01:21:57.000In their early 20s, who opened the bar in 2025, she posted news of the Switch on the Saturday night switch on August 31st under a banner declaring updates.
01:22:07.000It is with love we inform our immunocompromised disabled divas we will be opening Saturday night as a masking optional.
01:23:35.000They were Smith lesbians until graduation.
01:23:39.000And the like, young girls would go to these women only colleges and they would, you know, they would experiment and get mad at men for a lot of things.
01:23:47.000So, yeah, Last Ditch is located at the north end of the Pioneer Valley area in Western Massachusetts, home to the town of Northampton, a longtime lesbian enclave.
01:23:56.000Rachel Maddow called it home before moving to her farm in nearby Cummington, as well as Women Only Smith College.
01:24:03.000An alternative Hampshire college where the bar has roots as a capstone graduation project.
01:24:08.000This is hilarious because, I mean, it really just touches kind of all the stuff that the left gets, you know, shellacked for nowadays.
01:24:18.000It's LGBTQ, women are taking a beating since the Lindsey Clancy.
01:24:24.000Well, they're definitely taking a beating if it's a lesbian.
01:25:26.000I mean, growing up, you know, and I'm not a young guy, you know, when I was growing up, you got your vaccination and then you were like, okay, you got your vaccination.
01:25:35.000That's how I perceived vaccinations working.
01:25:39.000And then when COVID came, they were like, you get vaccinated, then you get a booster, then you get another booster, then you get another booster.
01:25:45.000I'm like, this is, this sounds weird to me.
01:26:53.000I mean, look, you get the polio vaccine, and then you don't have to worry about getting polio.
01:26:57.000That was my perception of it because I have a young kid, and the one thing I'm adamant about is I want to make sure that he gets the polio vaccine.
01:27:05.000Not that there's a lot of polio going around, but I definitely don't want a kid in an iron lung.
01:27:10.000You know, I mean, it's like you weigh the consequences and the likely dangers, and there's some stuff that we're going to do, some stuff that we're not going to do, but I wanted to get the polio vaccine.
01:27:24.000And again, because I think just recently, the last person. That was in an iron lung because of polio just recently passed away.
01:27:32.000I don't want my kid to live his life in an iron lung or have some kind of serious debilitation because he randomly got polio because someone from the third world who wasn't vaccinated came into the United States during the Joe Biden administration and ends up giving someone else polio or spreading around polio.
01:27:54.000I remember during Biden, they were spreading medieval diseases like Brownsville.
01:28:15.000So, I ran an urgent care center in Maryland, and I became, my center became the largest supplier, well, it became the largest testing site for COVID.
01:28:25.000We went from one urgent care center with like six employees within a 12 month span to eight sites with over 300 employees just because the demand was so great.
01:28:35.000We became the largest testing site in our county, and I'm pretty sure the largest private testing site in the state of Maryland.
01:28:40.000And then when I saw President Trump be helicoptered off the White House lawn to Walter Reed because he had COVID, he looked awful.
01:28:48.000And then a couple of hours later, he comes out.
01:28:50.000He goes, I just got monoclonal antibodies.
01:29:15.000Yeah, so it's basically, we were talking about this earlier, it's basically mono meaning one and clonal meaning that it's been cloned, it's been replicated multiple times.
01:29:25.000So if your body recognizes, if there's a virus in you and your body recognizes each particle that sticks off of that virus as foreign, and it will produce an antibody, a protein in an exact opposite direction, Four dimensional structure from what it is.
01:29:43.000So if my finger represents the protein sticking off the virus, your body will come in and make a cap that fits over it in exactly the opposite shape.
01:29:59.000All right, so then your body can come along and take that virus or whatever it is, bacteria, fungus, whatever, and get rid of it.
01:30:05.000That's because once the antibody attaches, does it send off a signal to the body?
01:30:09.000And the body will recognize it and says, We got to get rid of this thing.
01:30:12.000And the important point is, it can no longer infect you.
01:30:15.000So, if I gave you COVID right now, Ian, your body would take about three or four weeks to mount the maximum immune response it's going to mount.
01:30:24.000So, your body's going to ramp up and produce antibodies to every single protein that it recognizes as foreign on that virus.
01:30:30.000It's going to take about three or four weeks.
01:30:31.000And that'll be the maximal response that you're going to have.
01:30:33.000So, for people to visualize, the virus is like a ball and it has a bunch of hairs sticking out of it.
01:30:51.000And they find the best antibody to that thing, in this case, COVID 19, but it could be whatever you're talking about.
01:30:57.000And then they replicate it billions of times.
01:30:59.000And then it comes in a little powder, and you basically mix it up with some saline, and you infuse it into somebody's arm like an IV, and they're cured right then and there.
01:31:06.000You were telling me earlier, you got monoclonal antibodies, and you felt better within 15 minutes.
01:31:13.000We saw it time and time and time again.
01:31:15.000We became the largest supplier of this life saving medication to this in the state of Maryland and in the entire mid Atlantic region of the United States from New York down to West Virginia.
01:31:24.000We were the largest, we were the biggest single supplier.
01:31:28.000Over the course of the pandemic, we infused over 5,000 patients and we didn't have a single treatment failure.
01:31:33.000And actually, the HHS Health and Human Services came to me and said, We want to set up this program where we'd like to take these life saving drugs and get them out into the communities, the underserved populations, and minorities.
01:31:46.000So I set up the first one at In the country at FedEx Field under this health equity initiative program through HHS.
01:32:23.000And they said, We believe the monoclonal antibodies we had, we had six at the time, six you could choose from, manufactured, six different ones.
01:32:32.000They said, We believe that the monoclonal antibodies that we have are not efficacious against Omicron.
01:32:37.000Now, there had been zero, zero clinical studies at that time that showed that.
01:32:42.000They were just starting to do in vitro studies, so in test tubes to show that there was maybe a decreased efficacy, but not in any human beings.
01:32:49.000So they had no clinical data on which to base this.
01:32:52.000So I go on Fox News and I rail against them and I said, They're going to kill people because they don't know what they're doing and they're misreading the data.
01:32:58.000A few weeks later, they come out and said, Oh, yeah, we misread the data.
01:33:25.000I didn't see a single one in any of my clinics.
01:33:27.000Oh, so you'd been serving clonal antibodies to people with Omicron and it hadn't been causing.
01:33:32.000We don't know what they had because, so the other thing is the statistics were so poor.
01:33:36.000Because the United States, of all the major countries in the Western world, we were the last, the lowest in terms of testing for genetic testing of the subtyping.
01:33:46.000So, what would happen is you'd send a certain percentage of your PCR swabs to the CDC and they would do genetic testing to see what subtype of COVID it was.
01:34:17.000And then four months later, I get indicted for federal health care fraud charges.
01:34:20.000That even the chief judge of Maryland, who was assigned to my case, called it a case of quote, shoot first and ask questions later because they really hadn't done any investigation.
01:34:54.000So we go to trial, and I mean, I can't believe I'm here on federal charges going to trial.
01:35:00.000And the chief judge of Maryland writes a 93 page opinion and basically throws the whole case out and says that the government didn't prove its case.
01:35:06.000They had no evidence, which they didn't.
01:35:09.000They never even had a professional coder look at the charts.
01:35:12.000They just had government lawyers look at the charts.
01:35:13.000It would be like me, Ian, if I handed you five, Patient charts and said, Here, why don't you pick the right code?
01:35:33.000You were like, They were like, actually, they didn't have enough information to even pick the numbers at random, correct?
01:35:39.000And and they and they actually to this day have never been able to say what was wrong, how it was wrong, or what the right code should have been.
01:36:10.000I'm trying to find someone in the Trump DOJ to do that.
01:36:12.000And I would argue that I'm a whistleblower because I worked for the federal government.
01:36:16.000I went on national news twice and said they're going to kill people, which is exactly what they did.
01:36:22.000And then now I'm charged with a ridiculous crime.
01:36:24.000So, President Trump, on day one of his term, issued an executive order.
01:36:30.000Ending the weaponization of government.
01:36:31.000Two weeks later, Pam Bondi, then Attorney General, issues a memo saying we're starting this weaponization workforce to find cases just like mine and we'd like them to be brought to the president.
01:36:57.000I don't understand how anybody could think that's okay.
01:37:01.000Do you have a sense as to what was going on behind the scenes?
01:37:05.000Because this is a time where I actually do kind of start to think along the lines of like conspiratorial.
01:37:11.000Do you think that the stuff that you are working on, the monoclonal antibodies, do you think that that was suppressed because the administration, because the government, because it was the Trump and the Biden administration, because the government had contracts with bigger companies that were working on the vaccine?
01:37:28.000I think there was collusion between, in this case, the Biden administration and Big Pharma.
01:37:36.000I mean, the business model is like the best business model I've ever heard of, I could ever come up with.
01:37:40.000So now you take the entire planet, all eight and a half billion inhabitants of it, and you basically sign them up for a subscription to get a new vaccine every six months.
01:37:48.000That, oh, by the way, the vaccine research and development was all paid for by the taxpayer.
01:37:52.000So they had zero cost going in or very little cost going in, the drug manufacturers, yet 100% of the profits go back to the drug manufacturers.
01:37:59.000So you're basically signing the entire world up in perpetuity for every six months getting another vaccine.
01:38:07.000Versus the monoclonal antibodies, which are expensive to produce, and your population of patients is only maybe 20 million people worldwide at any given time.
01:38:17.000So you're talking about massive, like multiple orders of magnitude of difference.
01:38:21.000I mean, the economics are plainly obvious, right?
01:38:25.000You're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars versus maybe a couple of, maybe $100 million for the drug manufacturers to make.
01:38:32.000So I think that there was definitely collusion to get the vaccines because why else would you take away hydroxychloroquine, which worked, then you take away ivermectin, which worked.
01:39:22.000So that's interesting, too, because a vaccine, as we know it, used to be you'd inject a little bit of a virus.
01:39:28.000Now, today, the mRNA stuff is they're actually putting RNA in your body that's sending a different message to the cell to build a different protein.
01:39:36.000So, in theoretical terms, the mRNA vaccine is amazing.
01:40:07.000I mean, whilst, you know, and the thing that's just so infuriating to me, aside from the fact that they destroyed my life and my family's life, is none of what we all lived through during COVID had to happen.
01:40:17.000Like, we made the government decide at some point there was a branch point and we could have done the way of Sweden, which was.
01:40:24.000Okay, you know, we recognize that certain populations of people are a higher risk.
01:40:28.000Let's take those and protect those people.
01:41:13.000If you had been killing people with monoclonal antibodies, that's one thing, but it looked like they went after you with some bogus administrative trumped up charge that didn't happen.
01:41:22.000Like what they did to Al Capone to get them on tax evasion because they couldn't find them for.
01:41:26.000The killing people and being a monster.
01:42:00.000In the future, when there is another, some kind of pandemic, should that happen again, there's going to be a slew of people that are, you know, my age and younger that are going to be like, do I trust them?
01:42:17.000And that will end up causing, and if it's legitimate, and there are, especially with AI being able to come up with cures and stuff, there are people that are going to be like, I don't trust it.
01:42:49.000Monoclonal antibodies need to be front and center in any future pandemic response.
01:42:53.000In fact, I helped write the pandemic response plan for New York State for hopefully the next governor, Mr. Blakeman.
01:42:59.000I helped write their response for him as he's running for governor against Kathy Hochul.
01:43:04.000Because these need to be front and center.
01:43:06.000Like, that needs to be something that we're talking about.
01:43:08.000But to your point, Phil, I think show me any physician who spoke out during the pandemic against the narrative who wasn't beaten down in some way, shape, or form.
01:43:43.000Dr. Drew sort of got out somewhat unscathed, but he was more of a personality.
01:43:47.000I don't think he said the things that were getting like Peter McCulloch and, you know, Robert Malone, well, acolysted at the time, who were.
01:45:57.000And you contrast that with a monoclonal antibody, which is essentially produced in a laboratory multiple times, same antibody, and now we're giving you the antibodies already.
01:46:07.000So you're just injecting the antibodies.
01:46:08.000So it's like a Superman injection for your immune system.
01:46:13.000It would take you three or four weeks to produce that level of antibodies we're giving to you in 30 minutes.
01:46:17.000Does the COVID virus having a large spike in it indicate that it was made in the laboratory?
01:46:23.000That doesn't indicate it was made in the laboratory, but I can pretty much, I mean, I firmly believe it was man made, and I think the data.
01:46:29.000And now the government's finally admitting that it was probably man made.
01:47:19.000Which just so happened to be, you know, start in Wuhan, China, which just so happened to host a lab, which just so happened to study coronaviruses.
01:47:28.000You know, I mean, it's all very suspect.
01:48:07.000I mean, again, it sounds so conspiratorial.
01:48:09.000Like all of this stuff sounds like we're living in some matrix or something, or it's a bad spy novel, but it all really, we all lived through this.
01:49:06.000And then with the behavior of the government because of that pandemic, people now are, I mean, I was talking earlier, you know, in the Soviet Union, everyone felt all the time the government lies.
01:49:20.000There's a lot of people out there that think everything the government says is a lie.
01:49:29.000It was, there was so much audacious BS that people had to deal with.
01:49:35.000Even if, even if you didn't have any, you know, any kind of opinion on whether or not the COVID virus was made in a lab or whatever, once people realized or found out that masks didn't help, but then they did, but then they didn't, and social distancing was BS, and it was okay for you to go out and protest.
01:49:56.000In the middle of the night with 10,000 people, but not go to your grandparents' funeral.
01:50:04.000You had to watch people watch their family members die.
01:50:06.000There are people that will never, ever forgive the government.
01:50:10.000I can tell you one of the hardest things that I mean, as a doctor, like, you know, as an emergency room doctor, I saw lots of people die.
01:50:16.000I see it all the time and it's horrible and it's a tough part of my job, but I, you know, it's part of my job.
01:50:20.000But at least for the most part, when people die, your family members can come in and be with them.
01:50:28.000I can't tell you how many people we had to pronounce that we just family members are on the other side of the glass, they can't be in the room with them.
01:50:35.000So, the hardest thing, and you try to give some level of comfort to this person that they don't know you, but you try to hold their hand or whatever you can do to try to be at least some human interaction.
01:50:44.000I mean, I have PTSD from that to this day because these people are on their deathbed, they're dying, and these horrible monsters wouldn't even allow their own family members to be with them.
01:50:57.000And, you know, my aunt passed away during COVID, I couldn't go to her funeral.
01:51:01.000And then, you know, the ridiculous stuff like you could go to Walmart, but they had arrows on the floor, right?
01:51:10.000And to your point about the way, you know, people were passing away with their families, you know, being locked away, you couldn't be there.
01:51:20.000That's one of the, of all the stories that you hear, that's the one that's probably the worst.
01:51:26.000You know, knowing that, like, you can't go in because the government, you know, just said you can't be there.
01:51:33.000And, And the fact that nobody's been held, really been held accountable for it.
01:51:37.000You know, the Biden administration gave so many people, you know, pardons for something that they might have done.
01:51:46.000It's completely justifiable for the anger that people have towards, you know, Fauci and all the people that were in the administration that were saying, you know, you can't do this, you can't do that.
01:53:18.000They held an event right two weeks before, or a few weeks before COVID emerged, where they were by Johns Hopkins with the World Economic Forum and the Gates Foundation, simulating a novel coronavirus spread from pigs to people and killing tens of millions worldwide.
01:53:30.000Then before that, there was something called Crimson Contagion.
01:53:34.000Same year, 2019, January through August, it simulated a flu pandemic starting in China and found the U.S. was underprepared.
01:53:43.000All through 2019, they were simulating this.
01:53:47.000I mean, I'm not, I know I'm preaching to the choir in this room, but dear God, someone's watching right now and putting the pieces together.
01:53:53.000I mean, it's, it's, again, it's so obvious.
01:53:55.000The timeline is just, you know, bang, And then whatever, like, again, why would anyone in their right mind, like, somebody had a great idea early in the pandemic.
01:54:06.000There's this drug called hydroxychloroquine.
01:54:14.000Why would anybody then step in and say, You can't use that drug?
01:54:17.000No, You're crazy if you're going to use that drug.
01:54:20.000And then a couple of weeks later, someone said, Well, let's try this other drug that's been around that, by the way, its founder got the Nobel Prize for, ivermectin, which is one of the things that's safer than Tylenol or aspirin.
01:54:30.000And the media's treatment of it, the way they were like, It's horse-paced.
01:54:35.000And did everything they could to shut it down.
01:54:47.000Can look through and say, well, with a discerning mind, they clearly had a target and it was one thing after another, after another, after another.
01:55:46.000We got to jump to super chats, though, but I appreciate you taking the time to tell the story.
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01:57:13.000I mean, particularly the topic of this show, one of the things that people are most upset about is they feel like there's been no accountability for all of the BS that we had to go through with COVID.
01:57:23.000And it justifiably feels like that because there hasn't been.
01:57:27.000But, you know, if the Democrats do get control of the House and the Senate, they're going to do everything they can to stop.
01:57:37.000Donald Trump's enforcement of the border.
01:57:39.000And I personally, I think the illegal immigration is the biggest threat to the country right now.
01:57:44.000So you're stuck in a rock between a rock and a hard place.
01:57:47.000But this isn't a presidential election.
01:57:52.000So you can, if you're upset with the Trump administration, you can still go.
01:57:56.000And if you like your representative, your Republican that's running in your district, you can still vote for them and have a somewhat clear conscience.
01:58:07.000It's hard to promote Republicans, especially after that story.
01:58:13.000X is from Christopher Even says, X has been reduced to Chinese propagandists versus Israeli propagandists in the political space.
01:58:26.000Thanks for standing out, Tim, as always.
01:58:31.000But yeah, I mean, that's kind of there's a lot of propaganda on X.
01:58:35.000I still think it's great, but I think it's the best social media.
01:58:39.000You know, uh, sites there is so Phil, I don't agree with Ian often, but the government know the government know, I think he's saying dick.
01:58:50.000Well, who has what and have their fingers on it?
01:58:54.000They don't have to tell you, no, they don't.
01:58:56.000But if they had something more advanced, you'd think that they'd be using it, and it doesn't seem like they're using it when they're you know kicking Claude out of the Department of War.
01:59:06.000Um, yeah, I can, I mean, I've done a lot of work inside the guy, I worked for the Secret Service and I worked with NASA, and I can tell you that like.
01:59:13.000There's a lot of smoke and mirrors that goes on with both of those institutions.
01:59:16.000And I imagine it's the same with government in general that there are people that are very dedicated to their jobs, but there's no secret bunker where there's like a top secret lab.
01:59:25.000That's all done in the private sector.
01:59:26.000And then the government may, as you said, license it or use it.
01:59:30.000But sometimes they'll even just be like, this is ours now.
02:00:26.000There's a lot of people on the left that are going to be like, well, we hate China too because they're not really communist, but they're not communist enough.
02:00:32.000They have markets and blah, Maybe Hassan Piker might start hating on him.
02:00:44.000Celtic Celero says Ian, if you want to read a well researched book on U.S. corporations making money with the Nazis, check out IBM and the Nazis by Edwin Blackie.
02:01:01.000Falink says, let's be honest. The reason the dykes are complaining about no masks is because they're now going to have to look at each other's ugly faces.
02:02:38.000And we should find other doctors that are being pursued or still on the hook for stuff that happened eight years ago, mistakenly, or six years ago, or four years ago, whatever.
02:07:17.000You think they're doing this because Trump recently signed an executive order approving something to the tune of 300,000 tons of beef trimmings from Argentina?
02:07:34.000I mean, I don't really have a take on that.
02:08:33.000A little hidden known fact when Argentina was in the 2022 World Cup, they imported a ton of beef to Qatar and they beat France in the final in a total dogfight.
02:08:51.000It's like the old adage, you know, why did you rob the bank?
02:08:53.000Because that's where the money is, right?
02:08:54.000It's like, why did you go to the bank?
02:08:55.000Because that's where the illegals are.
02:08:56.000I mean, I used to work in Delaware in one of the hospitals there, and there's a ton of chicken.
02:09:02.000Purdue chicken is like huge in Delaware, and all the chicken packing plants, everybody that would come in with horrible injuries from the chicken packing plants, I mean, they didn't speak a word of English, and I had to presume that they were mostly illegals.
02:09:13.000So, I mean, to your point, you know, the agricultural industries where unfortunately these people are, and I think, you know, it's good for ice.
02:09:21.000I think they're the ones that have been holding this up to the agriculture industry.
02:09:23.000I mean, Brooke Rollins, you know, whatever your thoughts on her are, I've been pretty critical of her for this reason because she's under a lot of pressure from, again, big ag, because she's operating like a politician.
02:09:37.000She understands that if food prices skyrocket, which they likely would if we went in and deported every illegal in the country, that would come back to her.
02:09:43.000And they'd be like, use her as, you know, saying, well, food prices have gone up and you're the, you know, ag director.
02:09:53.000But it gets to a point where it's like we're all looking at Brooke Rollins and we're like, hey, you're the one that keeps going to the map for farm worker, guest worker visas or whatever.
02:10:03.000I mean, this is really where a lot of them are in the act.
02:10:08.000And we can't play around with foreign worker visas or whatever because we have birthright citizenship.
02:10:14.000It'd be one conversation if we didn't have that.
02:10:16.000We could have a conversation about guest workers, but we can't facilitate that because as soon as they pop a kid out, they're here forever.
02:10:22.000I think with shutting down our own food production to fix the problem, it's kind of like if you're really sick, mass immigration, you're overrun, you get a wild experimental treatment that incapacitates you, makes you bedridden for like two weeks.
02:10:38.000Well, you're going to start ordering food because you don't have enough energy to cook.
02:10:42.000And how long are we going to be importing the beef?
02:11:18.000And if you deport illegal immigrants, and I'm in favor of deporting every last one, you do have to acknowledge that it will increase specifically meat prices.
02:11:27.000So I think that was just a preemptive move of like, hey, beef's getting out of control for a variety of reasons.
02:11:32.000One of those includes immigration enforcement.
02:12:12.000I think one of them was exports decreased for some reason that I can't actually remember right now.
02:12:18.000And so a lot of these, uh, Ranchers were just like, well, we don't want to have extra cattle to pay for if we can't sell it.
02:12:26.000And then it caused a knock on effect, which was, okay, actually, no, we do need that supply after all, but it takes time for a cow to grow up.
02:12:33.000So it'll run about 18 months from birth to hook.
02:12:38.000So yeah, it'll take, we'll probably have another year before beef gets, once these ranchers realize, okay, we need to increase supply, it'll take a bit of time.
02:12:47.000Or we'll start like growing stem cell meat in laboratories and feeding it.
02:12:51.000Yeah, well, you know, no one would love that more than these ranchers because these ranchers have access to a bunch of capital.
02:12:57.000So they could expand, invest in that sector, and that clears a lot of their overhead, which is raising cattle.
02:13:03.000Because when we're talking about ranchers, people think about like a small family farm or whatever.
02:13:08.000The ranching industry is dominated by big, massive firms backed with, you know, capital, like heavy capital investment from Wall Street, et cetera.
02:13:17.000Like these aren't your family farms anymore.
02:13:19.000These are massive conglomerates that employ a ton of illegal labor.
02:14:57.000So, uh, I have a chronic inflammation disease.
02:15:03.000And also, a huge chunk of the country also has diseases related to chronic inflammation.
02:15:09.000And I have been through a lot of treatments from medical doctors.
02:15:11.000I've seen more medical doctors than I can actually count because I remember them all.
02:15:17.000But when it comes down to it, I've had some of the most significant and dramatic results with functional medicine, where they've done lots of testing to find out some of the root causes and why I had inflammation.
02:15:28.000And I have been able to solve some of those issues and been able to have a lot, lot, lot less medication.
02:15:35.000But none of those things are actually covered by insurance or anything else.
02:15:39.000I just kind of wanted to get some thoughts on what's going into the education and the doctors.
02:15:48.000They always look at me like I'm an idiot, but I'm like, but it works.
02:15:51.000So, like, if I get results, like, I don't really care if you think it works or not works, it works.
02:15:56.000So, why aren't some of these more traditional doctors You know, looking into some of these things and why aren't they trying to implement some of these solutions that are relatively cost effective and can get some actually dramatic results?
02:16:45.000But the problem is when you have Eastern medicine meeting Western medicine, they don't play well together.
02:16:50.000And in Western medicine, we're trained a certain way to look at things.
02:16:53.000Now, I always have told patients, for me personally, if you think it helps, go for it.
02:16:58.000As long as you're not foregoing the tried and true treatment or you're not hurting yourself, You should embrace whatever you think will help.
02:17:05.000I think a lot of closed minded people would say the opposite and they'd say, Oh, you're wasting your money, you're wasting your time, whatever.
02:17:11.000Good for you for trying things and finding something that works.
02:17:15.000The problem is in Western medicine, we do certain things very well.
02:17:21.000As an emergency room doctor, we do emergencies very, very well.
02:17:25.000You get shot, you get stabbed, you get hit by a car, you have some sort of traumatic event.
02:17:29.000You want to be in the United States of America, you want a Western doctor taking care of you.
02:17:33.000If you have cancer or you have a chronic illness, like, you know, chronic inflammatory process, like you were talking about, or some sort of autoimmune disease, we're less good at taking care of those things.
02:17:44.000It's not to say we don't have treatments, but we're not as good as Eastern medicine or less traditional medicine.
02:18:38.000So when you sign, like for care, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, for example, you're not allowed to then bill the patient directly for other things unless it has to be written into the contract and they don't like to do that.
02:18:46.000So a lot of these functional medicine doctors just don't take insurance and then they can do whatever they want.
02:18:51.000But most mainstream primary care doctors, like, you know, their average family doctor or internal medicine doctor, they have to take insurance.
02:19:01.000And then they can't offer these other treatment modalities, which is unfortunate because a lot of them do work.
02:19:06.000Does this stem from, like, I've heard a lot about the Rockefeller medical industry, 1901, 02, when they got involved in osteopathic medicine all the way?
02:19:19.000If it's hurting, get in there and cut it out.
02:19:21.000Is that, or is it more about the scientific method of if you can't prove it over and over and over and over and over again with repeated studies, then it's not real?
02:19:53.000And it, Studies have shown that it works just as well in certain people as metformin, which is the first basically frontline drug for diabetes.
02:20:10.000There's actually double placebo controlled, double blinded studies that have worked with berberine, has shown that it does have good effects.
02:20:18.000It has all these effects, but people don't talk about it.
02:20:21.000I've eaten it because I've studied David Sinclair's work at Harvard on life extension with like risveratrol, berberine, and NMN, nicotinamide mononucleotide, and the berberines, it made me go into ketosis.
02:20:31.000I could feel my body start to digest fat.
02:20:33.000Like, you know, that swelling feeling when you're eating fat now for energy instead of sugar.
02:20:38.000Berberine did, which, hell yeah, if I'm a diabetic, go for the fat.
02:20:42.000You know, you want your body to eat fat.
02:20:44.000And I was just on the phone, on my way here today with a friend of mine who was just diagnosed with diabetes, and I told him, you should go out and get yourself some berberine.
02:20:50.000He's like, oh, my doctor didn't mention that to me.
02:21:54.000And you'd put them into a website, and then they could go to the dispensary, and then the dispensary would look and they would see that their name is on that list.
02:22:14.000Yes, I mean, lots of people do it well.
02:22:17.000There's certain doctors, to this caller, he said he found a functional medicine doctor.
02:22:21.000Most of those people, that's what they do.
02:22:24.000Some of them are not MDs or DOs, so they don't practice traditional.
02:22:29.000To your point, if I was looking for someone who could blend both, I would look for an MD who's also certified in functional medicine, who did an extra year or two of residency in functional medicine.
02:22:38.000Therefore, they blend the best of both worlds.
02:22:40.000Are those called NDs, the naturopathic doctors?
02:23:03.000And I found that I have to just do it all on my own.
02:23:06.000I'm lucky I'm an engineer and I can get really into research and things, but I basically had to piecemeal it all together and make my own decisions.
02:23:13.000But a lot of times the functional medicine doctors recommend one thing and I'll try it, and my medical doctors will get upset and like, We don't like this, but I'm like, well, if I don't try it, I won't know if it works.
02:23:24.000And they look at you like you got 12 heads, probably, which is unfortunate because they shouldn't.
02:23:27.000They should be encouraging you to try things if you think it's again, as long as it's not hurting you, you should experiment and try things.
02:23:33.000I mean, you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
02:23:34.000Again, a lot of these treatment modalities have been around for a long, long, long time, and there's a good reason for that.
02:23:40.000So, good for you for doing it, and good for you for trying.
02:24:31.000There's lots of data behind all of these things.
02:24:34.000But you have to try them and you have to work through them and you have to, you know, do them.
02:24:39.000Another thing I was told, and you can verify this or not, is that a lot of Western medicine focuses on treating blood as opposed to the lymph.
02:24:45.000It doesn't really mess with lymph very much.
02:25:00.000Because this naturopathic doctor, Robert Morris, Morris, Morris, Morris with an M, was saying that a lot of cancer is a result of lymphatic systems getting overly acidic.
02:25:09.000And then the cells can't dump their waste because it's the sewage ducts of the body, the lymph.
02:25:14.000So if they can't put their waste into it properly, they get hot, they split in half.
02:25:21.000And so much of Western medicine focuses on what's going on in the blood that's causing this.
02:25:25.000Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
02:25:27.000I will tell you that we're also trained to give people things.
02:25:30.000Patients expect certain things when they come, and we're judged by our patient satisfaction scores.
02:25:35.000So, like, if someone comes in and, like, I want an antibiotic, and you say, no, you don't need an antibiotic, and they argue with you and they leave, they're going to be disgruntled.
02:25:42.000And we don't want disgruntled patients because then the hospital comes and complains to us.
02:25:45.000So, you know, we're incentivized to give patients things, which is usually a prescription for something.
02:25:51.000And that's a terrible way to practice medicine, but that's what we're encouraged to do.
02:25:53.000Dr. Drew said that people in sometimes the 90s, doctors got a new directive.
02:25:59.000You're not going to treat the issue, you're going to treat the pain itself.
02:26:03.000So, to that, I would say that that is 100% true.
02:26:06.000And what Really makes me so angry all the time is that when you look at like this opioid crisis that we talk about all the time, and who do they blame?
02:26:14.000They blame doctors, and certainly there's some blame there.
02:26:16.000They blame pharmaceutical companies, there's some blame there.
02:26:18.000But the one institution that never gets blamed is the government.
02:26:21.000And they're the ones that drove this whole epidemic because they started to say this whole idea of pain, it became the fifth vital sign was a pain score, which is insane because no one's ever died because they were in pain.
02:26:33.000I'm not suggesting people should walk around in pain, but if your heart rate's too high, you can die.
02:26:37.000If your heart rate's too low, you can die.
02:26:38.000If your pain score, quote unquote, whatever the hell that is, is too high, you're not going to die from that.
02:26:42.000So they made it into the fifth vital sign.
02:26:44.000And then they said, we're going to base reimbursements, how much we're paying you based on people's pain scores.
02:27:59.000Patrick, you got anything you want to add?
02:28:02.000One thing I think that is really holding the whole system back is there's a combination of government insurance companies, prescription drug companies, and these large conglomerates, and they all love the system the way it works.
02:28:14.000Because they can pass around a ton of different doctors.
02:28:16.000I see lots of appointments, do lots of scans, rack up tons of money.
02:28:26.000And I don't care that the prescription drug they give me costs $75,000 a year because I don't pay it.
02:28:33.000And so all this stuff goes on and happens.
02:28:35.000And you got this patient that doesn't pay because they have insurance.
02:28:38.000And really no one cares what the cost is.
02:28:40.000And they just all charge and they all take a cut out of the middle.
02:28:43.000And I think doctors are kind of left a lot of times holding the bag.
02:28:46.000Because they're constrained by lawyers to make certain choices on what they do.
02:28:53.000And I just think that the entire thing, like everyone blames the whole system on these companies and whatnot, but I think it's just a big combination of everything together.
02:29:03.000And a single payer system isn't going to fix any of these daggone problems.
02:29:20.000It's just a third party payer, which is, to your point, exactly right.
02:29:24.000Nobody cares what anything costs because there's no incentive for you to care what anything costs because someone else is paying the bill.
02:29:29.000So, you know, if you actually had to pay for your doctor's office visits, like you would do to get oil changes or your brake jobs or whatever it is on your car, then you would care and you would shop around and you would find the best deal.
02:30:05.000No, I just hope everyone, if they got anything going on, I hope they check out Function Medicine because Deaflin's made a big impact on my life.
02:30:13.000And I definitely recommend if you've been struggling with something for years, try to check it out.
02:30:17.000And also, check me out on the morning show.
02:30:20.000I've been filling in for Glenn, he's been out.
02:30:22.000But we'd love to have you guys on the Discord.
02:31:39.000Yet the vaccine was brought out and it was, oh, you're not going to get sick if you get it.
02:31:43.000Then it was, well, you're going to get less sick.
02:31:45.000Then it was, you're going to stay out of the hospital.
02:31:47.000Then it was, well, maybe you'll go to the hospital, but you won't die from it.
02:31:50.000I mean, they literally just kept moving the goalposts again and we just kept falling for it.
02:31:56.000And it's really awful because, Phil, you mentioned this earlier that it just completely bastardized what is a very noble pursuit that is the institution of medicine.
02:33:52.000I don't know if I would go that far, but a lot of people are saying that, yes, you should still get your, doctors are still recommending everyone get their COVID shot and their boosters to everybody.
02:33:59.000And I'm not saying that there aren't a certain population that should be getting them, but it's not universal.
02:34:03.000Not everybody should be getting a COVID shot, but there's still doctors out there that are saying, like, one of the things that really, really pisses me off is pediatricians who are firing their patients because they refuse to get vaccinated.
02:34:36.000I should document in the chart, discuss with the patient, recommend stopping smoking or recommended they get the vaccine schedule, and then it's up to the parent.
02:34:42.000If the parent doesn't want to do it, fine.
02:34:47.000I can't tell you how many people call me and say, I need a pediatrician because we just got fired because we don't want to get our kids vaccinated.
02:34:54.000Our pediatrician's refusing to see us.
02:34:57.000I think that is an abandonment, a completely common thing.
02:35:00.000So I think, unfortunately, a lot of doctors still buy into this whole nonsense.
02:35:06.000And to the detriment of their patients and to the detriment of society.
02:35:10.000I think the worst thing in the short term was, or the immediate, like immediately during COVID, was the people that were dying without their family members around.
02:35:20.000People that had to watch their family members die through the glass or whatever.
02:35:24.000I think that was the worst thing in the short term.
02:35:38.000You know, I want to live in a high trust society because if you live in a high trust society, you have less government because the government doesn't have to force people to do things.
02:35:45.000The people do things because that's what we do, right?
02:35:48.000Like that's how we act, that's how we behave.
02:35:52.000And if you don't have trust in government, that filters down through the rest of society.
02:35:59.000You know, and you'll see society start to degrade and you'll see more government.
02:36:05.000Government actually probably has an incentive now they think about it to have a lower trust society because then they have more power, they have more authority.
02:36:12.000But the low trust society is really not a great place to live.
02:36:19.000You know, you look at what we consider third world countries or basket case societies, crime ends up being rampant.
02:36:29.000You can't trust people with contracts.
02:36:36.000People are stabbing each other in the back.
02:36:37.000I mean, you look at, there's a lot of societies that are like that.
02:36:41.000You hear stories, I've heard stories about, uh, I think it was Schellenberger, the journalist that he was talking about some of the things that he experienced in South America, where like you would get an apartment and the, or no, I think he might have been in India, but either way, you know, you would get a job and the guy that gave you the job would expect 10% in perpetuity because he's the one that got you the job.
02:37:06.000And then if you, he was talking about another case where you would go and rent an apartment and you'd have to go and bribe the guy at the electric company to turn the electricity on, never mind having your monthly bill.
02:37:17.000But you'd have to go bribe the guy for him to turn it on.
02:37:21.000And stuff like that just doesn't happen in the US.
02:37:23.000And even in, I've heard stories of bands being on tour, friends of ours that went on tour in Eastern Europe, they'd get pulled over, dudes with AKs would show up, and they'd basically just get shaken.
02:37:40.000You can get out of here if you got $1,000 or you give us all your money that you have on you.
02:37:44.000So, I mean, everyone's doing what they can to send money home, deposit it as soon as they can so they don't have much cash, but you need to have some cash to tour and stuff.
02:37:52.000And so, well, you get stopped for no reason, and they're just like, hey, who on the bus has money?
02:38:07.000And in a low trust society, that's just normal.
02:38:10.000Yeah, they can technically kind of pull it off in the US called civil asset forfeiture, but it doesn't happen a lot.
02:38:16.000And they have to be suspecting you of a crime technically.
02:38:20.000Like if you think you're going to do a crime or they catch you with pot, but you have $10,000, they'll be like, you were intending to buy more pot with that money, so we're confiscating it.
02:38:29.000I'm 100% against civil asset forfeiture in our.
02:38:32.000All of its forms, but the stuff that I'm talking about is real different than that.
02:38:40.000You know, I mean, paying the electric guy, paying the guy at the electric uh company to turn your power.
02:38:46.000A lot of people that do work on um cryptocurrency and smart contracts talk about a trustless society where it's not about high or low, it's that you don't have to trust, like, there should be no man in the middle of your electric company.
02:38:57.000The problem you push a button and the company turns on.
02:39:00.000The problem with that is societies that are low trust societies would never institute that.
02:39:05.000Because then they can't get the kickback.
02:39:08.000The whole economy works on bribes and kickbacks.
02:39:12.000So it's like, yes, there are solutions that you can have, but you have to get your society to adopt it.
02:39:17.000And if half your population is somehow getting a significant portion of their income through bribes and kickbacks, they're not going to adopt it.
02:39:27.000And that's, to me, the continuous degradation of the trust in our society is the long term worst thing.
02:39:36.000And I think that that's, you know, the, The biggest lie that they told at one time was the vaccine.
02:39:42.000But the biggest downstream effect of that is, to your point, is the complete lack of trust in medicine now.
02:39:48.000And for good reason people don't trust their doctors, they don't trust the institution of medicine.
02:39:52.000You know, you show up, you're in a car accident, you show up to some hospital as a trauma victim, you want to think that I'm in a good place where I'm going to get good care.
02:40:00.000But that's not the case anymore because people just don't trust the system.
02:40:04.000My girlfriend's younger than me, and she, you know, Because of COVID, she doesn't trust doctors and she's very apprehensive about, you know, who are we going to bring our kid to?
02:40:25.000You know, it's like, I don't want some guy telling us that we have to give our kids something that we don't want to give them, you know, and forcing you into doing it.
02:40:57.000Do you think in the United States, at least, that a lot of this conflict we're seeing with this stems from this hatred of Trump, the militant hate, hatred we see from the left?
02:41:08.000Or is it just a question if we have blind trust in the system?
02:41:11.000Like, is this completely partisan politics we're seeing play out?
02:41:15.000So, personally, I think it's all because of the left.
02:41:20.000But I do think it's all, I think that it had been, I think that it's existed for probably the better part of the past 16, 17 years.
02:41:32.000When the Democrats, when Barack Obama was elected, the Democrats and the establishment really thought that basically the competition was over, that it was going to be Democrats being elected.
02:41:46.000The real competition was going to be the primary for the Democrats.
02:41:50.000And then whoever the Republicans nominated, they would, They would lose by some significant amount.
02:41:59.000And when Donald Trump got into office, you saw the backlash.
02:42:06.000But it's because they believed that they had basically the country in lock.
02:42:13.000And as much as the woke stuff that people talk about, it was really starting to get predominant in 2016, 17, 18.
02:42:21.000I think that that also was in response.
02:42:24.000Because if you were an extremely online person, such as myself, in 2000, 12, 13, 14, you knew about this stuff.
02:42:33.000So I'll tell a little story here quick.
02:42:35.000In like 2013, 14, you know, I would read stuff on the internet, and most people didn't have a real good sense of what trans people were, right?
02:42:48.000They were still transsexual or crossdresser or what have you, but they didn't understand like basically the lore behind it.
02:42:56.000And I would make a joke with the guys.
02:42:58.000I would be like, I would get a picture of Buck Angel, who is a Female to male trans person and Bailey J, who was a male to female trans person.
02:43:32.000But there were they, and I would make jokes about it, and they were like, Phil, why do you, why do you, why are you so like focused on trans people, blah, blah, blah?
02:43:39.000Because it was something that would come up in conversation a lot, because to me it was crazy.
02:43:43.000And they thought I was kind of crazy, and I was like, Look, I read a lot of shit online, and in a couple of years, this is going to be a big fucking deal.
02:43:53.000Like, I was like, Three, four, five years, this is going to be everywhere.
02:43:59.000You're a weirdo, da, You know, fucking, I was right.
02:44:03.000Because I was plugged into what the left was doing, because I was one of the guys that would get on the internet and argue with people on the left.
02:44:10.000So that kind of stuff existed in 2012, 13, 14.
02:44:16.000It was just still very online, it was very much in colleges.
02:44:22.000But those people that were in college, like they graduated and they got jobs and they got into human resources departments and they got into, you know, essentially they got into the establishment.
02:44:32.000It was a very common refrain for people to say, Oh, they're just kids in college.
02:44:36.000When they get out, the The real world's gonna smack them in the face.
02:44:53.000But as much as 2020 was kind of like the crescendo of it and it kind of got beat back, it hasn't gone anywhere.
02:44:59.000It's not gonna go anywhere anytime soon.
02:45:02.000So that's why I think the left is the big driver of the problems in the country, is because you're Your normal Democrats have kind of joined the MAGA party.
02:45:14.000You look at all the people in the administration when Trump was reelected.
02:47:41.000But if you look at the reaction to Charlie Kirk, I mean, I can go pull up on X right now and find a picture of people that were wearing freedom shirts with blood on it, like fake blood on it, because they're celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.
02:47:54.000Like, I strongly believe that you're wrong in this.
02:48:00.000By one person or a small group underneath.
02:48:04.000This is very common on the left, and they're the people that are driving the division in the United States.
02:48:08.000It might be more emergent, but, and I'm just telling you what Chase Hughes is saying too, who's an extremely prolific behavioral scientist that understands military, you know, ops and stuff.
02:48:18.000And he's like, if you need to, if you need to, that when you see the guy with the blood on his shirt that's screaming about Charlie Kirk, that's what they'll show you over, that's what it'll show you over and over because that's what generates the rage and drives the psychosis.
02:48:31.000I think that that's a symptom that's, I think what he's describing is the effect of social media on people, but there's still the underlying reality of the opinions that the people have.
02:49:18.000Celebrating humans that have gone violent, you know, whether it's legal or not, it's still celebrating, you know, it does happen all in both arenas.
02:49:25.000But I think it's taken to the extreme more so on the left than the right, to Phil's point.
02:49:30.000It seems like I don't know enough, but that the left, I used to live in Hollywood and worked with a lot of people that would consider themselves leftists, that they were a tendency to be afraid more frequently.
02:49:40.000I don't know why, but there's like people on the right are armed up.
02:49:44.000They're like, you know what, if shit's gonna hit the fan, it's gonna hit the fan.
02:50:32.000If you're the kind of person that feels like the world happens to you, you feel like you're a victim, people do things that affect you, right?
02:50:42.000And so that means that whatever anyone does can have a really bad effect on you.
02:50:48.000Someone else has an opinion that has an effect on you.
02:50:51.000If you're the kind of person that thinks, I happen to the world.
02:52:45.000So I would like to also shout out the Montgomery County, Tennessee Young Republicans.
02:52:51.000I'm a secretary there, and we are doing everything we can to get people out to vote in these midterms and everything we can to get our Republican candidates elected here.