Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 24, 2026


WAR IS ON For Midterms, DOJ ARRESTS Illegal Aliens For Voter Fraud | Timcast IRL

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00:02:35.000 The DOJ has arrested illegal immigrants, Mexican national, a Trinidad and Tobago national for voter fraud in Pennsylvania.
00:02:45.000 The midterm war is heating up, and the question is will the right make a procedural victory in this election?
00:02:53.000 To be honest, it's a question of will they actually just get the votes?
00:02:56.000 There's a diesel shortage, gas is up, Trump's approval rating is hovering in aggregate around 40%, maybe slightly down.
00:03:05.000 And the prediction markets are saying Democrats are going to obliterate the GOP.
00:03:09.000 But with the DOJ going after voter fraud with these moves on the post office, whether that actually works or not, there's a question of whether or not Republican strategy is targeting the procedure of how the vote happens.
00:03:22.000 Now, of course, Democrats are calling that voter fraud itself and suppressing the vote.
00:03:26.000 But guys, I got to be honest.
00:03:28.000 In the end, the winner is the person who is sitting in that chair, in Congress, in the presidency, in the Senate, whatever it may be.
00:03:36.000 So, we're going to talk about that.
00:03:37.000 We got a bunch of big news, too.
00:03:38.000 Of course, Xi Jinping is still here in the United States, and there's a massive protest underway.
00:03:43.000 It's getting pretty wild.
00:03:44.000 And I even saw when, where was I?
00:03:47.000 I was in LA, Falun Gong protesters protesting Xi Jinping coming to the United States, saying that we should not be allowing this.
00:03:55.000 And you may have heard of those guys.
00:03:56.000 So, we'll talk about that.
00:03:57.000 Plus, we got a bunch of war stuff, of course, as we already mentioned, the news about the gas shortage.
00:04:03.000 And then I know you guys may have talked about it earlier in the week, this poll.
00:04:07.000 Showing that around a third of Democrats support the assassination of Trump.
00:04:11.000 Two thirds support a military coup against our duly elected, democratically elected government.
00:04:18.000 So I'm back.
00:04:20.000 I definitely want to talk about all of that stuff and more.
00:04:23.000 So, of course, smash that like button, share the show with all your friends.
00:04:27.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Paul Martino.
00:04:31.000 I'm excited to be here.
00:04:32.000 It's a pleasure.
00:04:34.000 What do you do?
00:04:34.000 Who are you?
00:04:35.000 So, Day Jobs, I run a venture capital firm, but I'm currently here because I'm in a film called Bucks County, USA.
00:04:42.000 Bucks County, USA is about political division in the United States, done by two Academy Award winning directors, Robert May and Barry Levinson.
00:04:51.000 And the film follows the friendship of my daughter and her best friend, who don't agree on much and whose parents are political rivals.
00:04:58.000 And it's about their friendship in spite of the fact that we're political rivals.
00:05:01.000 I think it's a very timely story in the environment that you're describing.
00:05:05.000 You know, just to the chagrin of so many people who watch this show, I'm friends with Brian Shapiro.
00:05:11.000 I don't know if you know who he is, but man, he is one of the most hated liberal lefty guys.
00:05:15.000 Phil's blocked him.
00:05:16.000 It's just only on the internet.
00:05:17.000 If Brian came back multiple times, we could, yeah, actually, that probably is multiple times.
00:05:21.000 If Brian comes back, look, I'll hang out with him, it would be nice.
00:05:23.000 But on Twitter, he's a mean guy.
00:05:25.000 He's a mean guy in politics.
00:05:27.000 And so it's true.
00:05:28.000 And I tell him this all the time.
00:05:30.000 And, but I actually just did a conversation with Jillian Michaels for my interview show, which will be coming out in a week or so.
00:05:37.000 But this is what we've been talking about.
00:05:40.000 There, we have to get rid of the crazies.
00:05:42.000 We have to stop the crazies.
00:05:44.000 Did you see that lesbian masking bar story that went massively viral?
00:05:48.000 In Massachusetts, I sure did.
00:05:50.000 Yeah, okay, we got to stop the crazies.
00:05:52.000 Listen, if you want to have a bar where your message is fine, but sending death threats to the bar owner, those people, these are not real people in the real world.
00:05:59.000 I know they exist, but they shouldn't be presumed to be the majority or in control.
00:06:04.000 So we got to have these conversations.
00:06:06.000 It's going to be fun, man.
00:06:07.000 I appreciate you coming.
00:06:08.000 The boys are hanging out.
00:06:09.000 Yeah, what's going on, Tim?
00:06:10.000 Good to have you back.
00:06:11.000 Good to be back.
00:06:12.000 Hello, everybody.
00:06:13.000 Good to see you, Carter.
00:06:14.000 Yeah, Tim, good to have you back, man.
00:06:16.000 It was an adventure.
00:06:17.000 I was in Los Angeles, of course.
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00:06:54.000 Let's start with the news, my friends.
00:06:56.000 We've got this from the DOJ.
00:06:58.000 Four aliens charged with election fraud in Pennsylvania.
00:07:02.000 Illegal alien from Haiti.
00:07:04.000 Allegedly submitted eight fraudulent voter registration applications and also allegedly voted in the November 2022 election.
00:07:11.000 I'm going to pause there.
00:07:13.000 First thing I know we're going to hear from our liberal counterparts is oh, this is just four people.
00:07:17.000 Hold on.
00:07:18.000 The issue is they're facilitating election fraud.
00:07:21.000 Who were these eight fraudulent registrations for?
00:07:24.000 And this person already voted.
00:07:25.000 So it's not about one vote, it's about a system and it's about an avalanche.
00:07:31.000 And it's going to be difficult because, of course, you can't go after every single snowflake that makes up that avalanche.
00:07:36.000 Two, illegal alien from Mexico allegedly illegally voted in November 2022 and 2024.
00:07:42.000 Trinidad and Tobago National allegedly illegally voted in the November 2022 election.
00:07:47.000 A Mexican national allegedly illegally voted in the November 24 general election.
00:07:52.000 Our sovereignty as a nation belongs to the American people and no one else, U.S. Attorney Metcalf said.
00:07:59.000 Anyone, including illegal aliens, who votes illegally in our elections will be prosecuted for corrupting our democracy.
00:08:06.000 So, There's the obvious question right off the bat that I've already opined upon.
00:08:12.000 It's just four illegal aliens.
00:08:15.000 Are we actually seeing enough from the DOJ that it will have an impact on the outcome of the election?
00:08:21.000 And that goes both ways.
00:08:23.000 Are these four illegal aliens actually moving the needle in favor of any political party?
00:08:28.000 And is the action from the DOJ going to be enough to change anything?
00:08:31.000 Right now, the opinion from basically everybody is that Republicans are getting crushed.
00:08:34.000 Well, the Republicans are definitely going to get cooked.
00:08:37.000 The situation.
00:08:39.000 Unless there's a dramatic, dramatic change in the United States before the election, you know, we're just over a month and a half away or a month and a week away.
00:08:49.000 They're done.
00:08:51.000 As to whether or not these people matter, the headline said that they're facilitating.
00:08:57.000 So it's more than just obviously the four people.
00:09:00.000 What are they doing?
00:09:01.000 How many people are they facilitating?
00:09:04.000 You know, what does facilitating mean?
00:09:05.000 Does it mean that they're organizing illegals to vote?
00:09:08.000 Does it mean that they're organizing the hundreds?
00:09:10.000 Does it mean that there are more people like them that are organizing as well?
00:09:14.000 Um, so that I think is an important question, but I don't know that these four individuals matter.
00:09:20.000 But what's downstream from them, uh, possibly could, you know?
00:09:24.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a tough one because okay, it's great we got four charges in election fraud, but you know, it probably requires a smoking gun with a volume of smoke that looks like a wildfire, uh, to bag people for this.
00:09:39.000 Because I mean, you know, California, how many videos have we seen now and exposes on illegals voting in California?
00:09:45.000 Granted, they're probably voting at the state level.
00:09:48.000 But still, you know, without states forking over their election data, it's probably pretty hard to pin down anybody on this.
00:09:57.000 And especially when, you know, Democrat states, they're not going to do everything they can to prevent the federal government from looking at anything.
00:10:04.000 They've made it, you know, I think that California's passed legislation that says that the feds aren't allowed to look or something along those lines.
00:10:11.000 So they're going to do everything they can to stonewall.
00:10:13.000 How?
00:10:13.000 I'm curious because, you know, like as I'm thinking about the story and even how I outlined it, it's a perception as to who's doing wrong.
00:10:22.000 The perception from the liberals is that the right is overreacting.
00:10:25.000 There's no voter fraud.
00:10:26.000 It's minimal, only four people.
00:10:28.000 That's not going to change a thing.
00:10:29.000 To the right, the left is entertaining non citizen voting, allowing non citizens to vote or to come in the country, and they're not trying to stop it.
00:10:37.000 And you're not going to convince either liberal or conservative, staunch liberal conservative, that their worldview is incorrect.
00:10:45.000 So, how do we even navigate this space?
00:10:48.000 If in the end Republicans end up somehow winning, the narrative is going to be among liberals that it was this it was intimidating minorities, it was manipulating the results, the Supreme Court was in on it.
00:11:01.000 When the Republicans lose, you're going to get a ton of conservatives saying, oh, yeah, of course, Trump lost.
00:11:05.000 He's the most popular president, but it's because illegals are voting.
00:11:09.000 This is the narrative that we've already had for a decade.
00:11:12.000 I wonder if that's actually going to pan out.
00:11:15.000 I think a lot of Republicans are aware of how disappointed the electorate is with the Republicans are with Donald Trump.
00:11:24.000 Is that why the Republicans left Congress early and aren't doing their jobs?
00:11:28.000 I have no idea why the Republicans left early and aren't doing their jobs.
00:11:33.000 I think that the, well, I mean, it's because that's what Congress does.
00:11:36.000 But the, you know, most people in the U.S., you know, if you go by polls and stuff, they're really pretty uptight about the war in Iran and they're uptight about the gas prices.
00:11:36.000 Yeah, that's what they do.
00:11:47.000 I think that they would be like, well, you know, he said he was going to do this stuff and he didn't.
00:11:51.000 And, you know, there's an element of truth.
00:11:53.000 Well, let me ask you, Paul, do you think this, like, I guess I might be a little blackpilly to point this out, but it feels like we're not mending.
00:12:02.000 Like, The results of this election are just going to be acrimonious.
00:12:07.000 There's no question.
00:12:07.000 Look, Richard Barris, if you guys know him, a very good pollster, he was at the premiere party that we did for the Bucks County USA show, and we went through some of the data in advance.
00:12:17.000 I'm a classically trained data scientist.
00:12:18.000 My wife, who's in the film, she's been a Google employee for 23 years on their data team.
00:12:24.000 So we've looked at the data.
00:12:25.000 It looks very bad for us, and Richard will tell you that.
00:12:28.000 But I'll tell you one of the things we did learn in Pennsylvania at the last election there's a lot of stuff that isn't so much.
00:12:34.000 Outright illegal, but really pushes the border.
00:12:37.000 Like we saw a lot of mail in ballots once the rules changed in Pennsylvania that got sent to a house and magically they then got dispersed to a set of people like the kids who were in college who you're not supposed to be able to do that with.
00:12:49.000 So there's a lot of stuff that really can tip the balance when it's close.
00:12:54.000 Well, I suppose it doesn't matter then.
00:12:58.000 Well, I mean, and this kind of goes to look, this election frauds occurring in our elections, et cetera.
00:13:03.000 This is a top priority for Republican voters, obviously.
00:13:06.000 And I think the evidence, I don't know if it's in the stack.
00:13:08.000 We had Tim Mellon today, who's a mega donor to the Republican Party.
00:13:13.000 Last election cycle, he ponied up $200 million.
00:13:16.000 I believe he was the guy that bailed out Congress when there was the government shutdown and they weren't going to pay the military.
00:13:22.000 I think Tim Mellon was the one who stepped up.
00:13:25.000 If you go to his Wikipedia, the last picture they have of him is from the 70s.
00:13:30.000 But he's from the Carnegie Mellon, the Mellon part of the Carnegie Mellon family, Gilded Age, billionaire, et cetera.
00:13:36.000 Anyway, $200 million what he ponied up last, and this is what he's planning on donating this cycle.
00:13:40.000 He revised it all the way down to $5 million.
00:13:42.000 So he's cut $195 million out of the purse of the Republican Party.
00:13:47.000 Why?
00:13:49.000 He cited specifically frustration that the SAVE Act didn't pass.
00:13:52.000 So, yes, Republican voters are obviously upset about Iran.
00:13:57.000 But additionally, as much as this is on the Trump administration for the Iran war, a majority of this, I mean, we're talking about midterms, we're talking about electing Republican congressmen, is frustration that this Republican Congress can't get anything done.
00:14:11.000 Something as popular as the SAVE Act, something that should be a home run, doesn't get passed.
00:14:15.000 Now, it's not just voters complaining on Twitter or even maybe not showing up at a high enough turnout.
00:14:20.000 It's quite literally mega donors closing the checkbook on Republicans and Tim Mellon putting his money where his mouth is.
00:14:29.000 That should petrify these guys.
00:14:32.000 It's kind of a joke that I have.
00:14:33.000 I'm like, we get on a podcast and we're like, why won't the Save Act pass?
00:14:36.000 But I mean, there is something to that because that really does erode Republican voters' faith in Congress.
00:14:44.000 If you can't get basic stuff like this across, because this kind of stuff pisses people off.
00:14:47.000 Being okay, it's four people, but I think everyone can read between the lines here.
00:14:52.000 This is, you know, probably tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even of fraudulent votes being cast in this country, and we can only get four pinned down.
00:15:01.000 Additionally, you could probably just solve this problem with the Save Act, we can't get that passed.
00:15:05.000 So everyone's like, well, what's the point of voting?
00:15:07.000 You know, if I'm just going to get outvoted by someone that shouldn't even be in the country, you know, a lot of people are thinking along those lines.
00:15:12.000 Yeah, like obviously, Donald Trump's going to take the brunt of the heat because he's the president, but I do wonder how many people are going to say, are actually saying, you know, if they can't do it, if they're Congress won't do the things that I want them to do, that I've voted for them to do, or I elected them to do.
00:15:30.000 Save Act being one of the biggest things that has popular support on both the right and the left.
00:15:37.000 And most Americans say this is a no brainer.
00:15:40.000 If they refuse to do that, maybe there is a portion of the electorate that's like, well, it is Congress that's a problem.
00:15:46.000 And considering this is a midterm, which has historically lower turnout than the presidential election, maybe they're just like, well, there's no point in voting.
00:15:54.000 For the Republicans, because they won't even do the simple things that I want.
00:15:58.000 Yeah.
00:15:58.000 And there's something, too, as well about like getting what you want from the GOP.
00:16:02.000 So, you know, okay, voters, as voters, we're frustrated with something.
00:16:07.000 Our main reason why we vote Republican at this point, certainly in a midterm, is not voting for the Republicans, but simply to keep Democrats out of power, right?
00:16:17.000 That's the main impetus.
00:16:18.000 I think every one of us that's probably going to consider or vote Republican in the next month is probably voting.
00:16:24.000 Not because we're in love with the candidate on the ballot.
00:16:26.000 I can name like five that I'd be excited to vote for, certainly none of my precinct.
00:16:31.000 But most people are going to the ballot box simply to keep the Democrats out.
00:16:35.000 But a lot of these mega donors do get what they want.
00:16:37.000 And part of it, like Tim Mallon, is because he says, you don't get the Save Act passed.
00:16:42.000 So screw you.
00:16:43.000 I'm taking your money away, well, my money away.
00:16:46.000 And that's something they have the power to do that Republican voters don't necessarily have.
00:16:50.000 And so this is why some people come out and they're like, well, maybe we should just not even vote as a protest.
00:16:55.000 And, you know, it's, I don't think it should be completely scoffed at when you look at how Tim Mellon has approached this issue.
00:17:01.000 I mean, I plan on voting Republican, but again, the reason I'm voting Republican is simply just to keep the Democrats out.
00:17:07.000 Yes.
00:17:07.000 Because it's not like they're going to codify any of Trump's agenda.
00:17:09.000 They barely ever do.
00:17:10.000 Let's jump to the story.
00:17:11.000 We've got this from CNN, their latest poll Trump's midterm woes deepen amid worsened economic backdrop.
00:17:19.000 CNN poll.
00:17:20.000 Well, I don't care too much about a single poll from CNN.
00:17:24.000 It still is fair to point out look, you've got a global diesel shortage.
00:17:28.000 Likely to last into 2027.
00:17:32.000 You've got the U.S. Correct me, guys, or inform me because I've been out earlier this week.
00:17:37.000 Have they made moves on that diesel export ban?
00:17:40.000 We talked about it.
00:17:42.000 Are they doing that?
00:17:42.000 Because, I mean, let's just put it like this when you've got that as a potential measure, when you need Venezuelan crude to offset the draining of the SPR, the economy's not doing well.
00:17:54.000 And there are areas where it's okay and we're seeing weird things happening.
00:17:59.000 But I think it's all indicative of a major collapse.
00:18:01.000 So let me put it this way.
00:18:02.000 Actually, Paul, you might be a bit more of an expert on this than I, but people seem to be, nobody's buying property anymore.
00:18:10.000 Prices are collapsing.
00:18:11.000 Nobody can afford to.
00:18:12.000 Young people aren't buying property, but we are seeing a lot of gambling.
00:18:16.000 So, where I think this is a bad sign.
00:18:22.000 Me personally, everybody knows me.
00:18:23.000 I'm not morally opposed to people wanting to go out and have a night with friends or to make some bets here and there.
00:18:28.000 The issue is when young people aren't saving and you do see them going to casinos, when you do see middle class people going on vacations, it looks like doomer spending.
00:18:39.000 Like the mentality is it's not going to get better.
00:18:41.000 Screw it.
00:18:42.000 Let's just.
00:18:43.000 Do whatever.
00:18:44.000 I think the state of the economy is actually very bad.
00:18:47.000 And I think it's a nuclear bomb for Trump.
00:18:50.000 Actually, don't even ignore my opinion.
00:18:54.000 Starbucks is shuttering 250 stores in its second wave of closing.
00:19:00.000 That's the story that freaked me out.
00:19:03.000 Yeah, and it's exactly right.
00:19:05.000 Your mortgage rates are now at two year highs again, at two year highs.
00:19:09.000 And vice spending is counter cyclical.
00:19:12.000 I was on the board of FanDuel for a decade, I was the first investor in FanDuel.
00:19:16.000 When it was seven people in Scotland.
00:19:18.000 And so I saw the entire sequence from being a little fringy fantasy sports company all the way to it being the world's largest sports betting company now.
00:19:28.000 And you will always see that vice spending is counter cyclical and does not go down in a recession.
00:19:34.000 It's one of the few things that is recession proof.
00:19:37.000 That makes total sense.
00:19:38.000 I mean, because that's something I was going to speculate was, I mean, I guess another way to phrase it is like misery consumption of some things.
00:19:45.000 Like you would also see this was probably alcohol use.
00:19:47.000 In the instance of Zoomers, probably pot usage increases massively during recessions because Zoomers don't drink anymore.
00:19:47.000 So the.
00:19:53.000 They've supplemented it with marijuana.
00:19:56.000 But yeah, I mean, you're seeing a lot of these indicators that people don't even really perceive themselves as having a future in the country.
00:20:05.000 But this kind of splits.
00:20:06.000 There's like half of people that absolutely do feel like that.
00:20:08.000 That's why you're seeing the birth rate, specifically among white Americans, slightly rebound.
00:20:13.000 But again, among younger people, again, people that aren't in that traditional range, age range to start having children.
00:20:19.000 You're seeing, like, again, really high rates of behaviors that would indicate they're not doing too hot.
00:20:25.000 And then, as far as the diesel export ban, that's likely going to happen.
00:20:30.000 Again, bad indicator for the United States, but it's going to be an economic reality for Europe.
00:20:35.000 I mean, I know we have a lot of viewers from Europe.
00:20:37.000 I mean, I was talking to Connor Tomlinson today, and he was like, dude, a quarter of our diesel is imported from the United States.
00:20:44.000 He's like, and for context, Connor is British.
00:20:46.000 He's like, the shock here is going to be.
00:20:49.000 Absolutely nuts.
00:20:50.000 They're already, you look over in Germany, they're already paying 11 bucks a gallon for diesel.
00:20:55.000 It's going to get, they're going to have none.
00:20:57.000 I mean, I think you're going to see some serious political turmoil over there, which is probably what they need, to be fair.
00:20:57.000 Yeah.
00:21:03.000 But it makes you wonder, like, okay, well, things are this bad in the United States.
00:21:06.000 You look around the rest of the developed world.
00:21:07.000 I mean, they're having the same problems in East Asia.
00:21:10.000 Is that a crystal ball into our future?
00:21:12.000 I mean, I don't really know because, I mean, again, Scott Besant the other day came out and he said, I don't know how long this war is going to go on.
00:21:18.000 It could be six months.
00:21:19.000 It could be longer.
00:21:20.000 He didn't have an answer.
00:21:21.000 And so you're like, well, if that's the economic secretary who is Probably in charge of communicating to the American people, I got this under control.
00:21:27.000 The economy is going to rebound.
00:21:29.000 And he's basically trying to soften the blow to the American people of like, hey, no, this is probably going to get worse or at least be as bad as it is right now.
00:21:37.000 It's not my fault.
00:21:37.000 You know, the Iran work continues on for six.
00:21:39.000 So you're just seeing all these indicators.
00:21:41.000 And I'm like, I'm not trying to doom, I'm not trying to black pill here.
00:21:46.000 But I think it really just illustrates how badly things have been screwed up in 2026.
00:21:50.000 The Trump administration has done a lot of great things.
00:21:52.000 I mean, you know, he's like land acknowledgement thing.
00:21:55.000 Conservative media.
00:21:55.000 He's done some great things.
00:21:57.000 On immigration, I'd be the first one to admit.
00:21:59.000 I mean, I've gone to the mad on this that Trump's doing things in immigration, but you look at the macro, it's like whatever gains you've made in certain policy sectors, like immigration, gets wiped out if you can't win an election.
00:22:09.000 It gets wiped out if you're going to get wiped out in the midterm.
00:22:11.000 So it's like great work there, but we're about to get buried in the midterms.
00:22:15.000 And now 2028's a question mark.
00:22:17.000 When this time last year, you know, vibes were so high, it was looking like a cakewalk.
00:22:20.000 Yeah.
00:22:21.000 It's the economy, stupid.
00:22:22.000 It's always the economy.
00:22:23.000 I mean, I say it all the time.
00:22:25.000 Like people, you know, like I was saying back in March, like the Republicans could take the election if the economy was good, but that wasn't a guarantee that they were going to take the election, right?
00:22:35.000 They're definitely not going to take the election if the economy's bad.
00:22:39.000 And to the average person on the street, $5 a gallon gas means the economy's bad.
00:22:46.000 That's like it's as pure and simple as that.
00:22:49.000 There's a lot of people that, especially in the aughts when the Iraq war was going on, no war for oil, no war for oil.
00:22:55.000 Even those people, if they were paying $10 a gallon for gas, they would stop saying no war for oil.
00:23:04.000 Like oil is literally like the foundation of modern society still.
00:23:11.000 And so if you can't afford to fill your tank, If you can't afford to go to the grocery store to get groceries that you can't afford, you're going to vote for whoever is not the party in power.
00:23:25.000 And we're going to see that in November.
00:23:26.000 Yeah.
00:23:27.000 I mean, look, at the end of the day, the moderates voted for Trump because they saw things like inflation under Biden and said he's going to fix it.
00:23:34.000 And now, when it's not fixed, somebody's going to have to answer for that.
00:23:38.000 And that's unfortunately what I'm worried about in six weeks, eight weeks.
00:23:42.000 You know, part of the thing that one of the things that people were pushing about, or one of the reasons.
00:23:42.000 I agree.
00:23:47.000 That people were like, oh, you know, inflation's so bad.
00:23:49.000 They haven't seen the necessary rise of wages, right, to fix it.
00:23:54.000 So they were thinking like that people will say, oh, you know, everything's too expensive.
00:23:58.000 But the reason why people don't think that is because their dollar goes far enough.
00:24:03.000 The wages that generally rise to meet inflation, it hasn't happened.
00:24:08.000 It hasn't materialized yet.
00:24:09.000 And that's a long term problem.
00:24:11.000 And that's just the reality of economics.
00:24:13.000 But still, until you get people feeling like they can afford to live their lives, You're done at the polls.
00:24:19.000 I just are down compared to last year.
00:24:21.000 It's great.
00:24:21.000 Yeah.
00:24:22.000 You know what I was thinking with just like, I don't want to spill the beans on any private stuff, but having gone to LA and talked with just say people in media, holy crap, that's a gigantic flock.
00:24:33.000 Yeah, I saw that.
00:24:34.000 He's flying around like crazy.
00:24:38.000 I think the internet has become too real life.
00:24:42.000 I think the internet used to be your escape from real life.
00:24:44.000 You know, you'd go to work, you'd go to business, then you'd come home, you'd go online, and you'd look up stories, you'd read things, and it was kind of an escape.
00:24:51.000 But now that.
00:24:52.000 Work has become the internet, everyone's basically checking out.
00:24:56.000 And the reason why I think that's relevant to this is that politics is no longer in the forefront of what their lives are.
00:25:02.000 I think it became too real.
00:25:04.000 And then people are like, I need an escape from real life.
00:25:08.000 So they're going back to real life.
00:25:09.000 They're kind of just chilling out and saying, I don't want to hear it.
00:25:12.000 This means people are detaching from what was this 10 year period of hyper news of politics as pop culture.
00:25:21.000 It may go back to people largely just don't care anymore.
00:25:24.000 We didn't get the changes we were hoping for.
00:25:27.000 There were some victories, but we didn't get the big changes we were hoping for.
00:25:31.000 Cancel culture is still here.
00:25:32.000 Ed Sheeran's crying on stage.
00:25:35.000 And I feel it, man.
00:25:36.000 I feel it personally.
00:25:37.000 It's, you know, burnout isn't the right word, and black pill isn't the right word either.
00:25:43.000 It's kind of a I'm just so tired of saying the same thing and hearing the same thing and debating the same things.
00:25:51.000 And now here we are with a new quagmire in the Middle East, economic woes.
00:25:56.000 This time it may be worse than ever.
00:25:57.000 And I feel like most people are just like, I'm staying home.
00:26:01.000 That's what's really going to impact the Republicans.
00:26:03.000 So, to Tate's point about, you know, we're voting to keep the Democrats out, I agree, but I feel like a lot of people are like, it doesn't matter if they're in or not.
00:26:10.000 Republicans don't do anything.
00:26:12.000 Well, and some of these candidates that are on some of these tickets are so bad that, like, you don't even really know if you're keeping the Democrats out insofar as the way that this governor is going to conduct himself, you know, isn't going to be that much, like, meaningfully different from the Democrat that would come in.
00:26:27.000 And people, like, get so, you know, upset about this.
00:26:30.000 But, like, I'm not here to do a get out the vote.
00:26:33.000 Like, I'm just trying to, again, as a political commentator, like, communicate what I'm seeing, how I'm viewing this.
00:26:37.000 And I'm like, again, you're looking at a few of these, especially governor's races, and you're like, I mean, again, how are they meaningfully going to govern any different?
00:26:45.000 The senators is obviously a bit of a different story because we're talking about, you know, if Alito or Thomas goes down, we need votes.
00:26:51.000 That's kind of my thinking for the Senate.
00:26:52.000 It's like, okay, well, it's really about the Supreme Court.
00:26:55.000 But you look at some of these governor's races and you're like, if I live in that state, I mean, it'd be really hard to, you know, take time out of your day to go and vote.
00:27:04.000 You're like, what is there to get super excited about?
00:27:07.000 I understand what you're saying, but I just put a link in the Slack, Tim, and it's.
00:27:14.000 Hassan Piker talking about Democrats, right?
00:27:17.000 And he's saying, you know, he's talking, he says stuff like, I want to throw you in prison.
00:27:22.000 I want Chinese style communism to happen inside the Democratic Party right now.
00:27:26.000 I want to do cultural revolution.
00:27:28.000 And the thing is, I get what you're saying, but people like Piker are route through the Democrat Party.
00:27:38.000 Oh, yeah.
00:27:39.000 And so if you end up with Democrats in control of the House and the Senate, God forbid they get the presidency in two years because this is a recipe for disaster for the United States of America.
00:27:53.000 Yeah.
00:27:54.000 You know, and so I understand that, you know, the economy is rough right now and people are hurting.
00:28:01.000 And again, like you said, it's like we're not trying to do a get out the vote here, but the future that is possible with Democrats in control, and that's a great thing to bring up, is an absolute disaster.
00:28:16.000 Well, I agree, but that's my point is that, like, we're already on the back foot where it's like the entire pitch for Republicans right now is look at us on Piker.
00:28:23.000 And it's like that works for us because we're all like, you know, people reading the news or whatever.
00:28:27.000 But again, like your average Joe pulled the lever for Trump because he saw him on Joe Rogan's podcast or whatever.
00:28:32.000 Like, that's not going to cut it.
00:28:34.000 Let me jump to this poll.
00:28:35.000 I think you guys talked about it the other day, but I want to pull this up from the Center for Strategic Politics.
00:28:40.000 Democrats want Trump out by almost any means necessary.
00:28:46.000 75%, very positive, and 12% somewhat positive, want Trump impeached and convicted.
00:28:54.000 Okay.
00:28:55.000 70% very positive, with 14% somewhat positive, using the 25th Amendment.
00:29:00.000 Trump has been declared unfit and removed.
00:29:04.000 Trump dying overnight in his sleep enjoys 55% positivity from Democrats.
00:29:12.000 Yeah, because then they can fuse the internet.
00:29:13.000 To safeguard the Constitution, a group of U.S. military leaders have removed Trump from power.
00:29:20.000 This is insane.
00:29:23.000 43% very positive, 16% somewhat positive.
00:29:30.000 We have 59% of Democrats finding it a positive that a military coup be waged against the democratically elected president.
00:29:40.000 Here's the worst 23% positive, 9% somewhat positive.
00:29:45.000 Trump being assassinated.
00:29:47.000 This is what I am trying to keep out of office.
00:29:51.000 Now, we all saw that story of the lesbian COVID bar.
00:29:54.000 If you don't know the story, I'll give you the quick gist.
00:29:57.000 It's a lesbian bar in Massachusetts.
00:29:59.000 You had to wear a mask.
00:30:01.000 It's years after the pandemic.
00:30:03.000 Nobody wears masks, there's no mask mandate.
00:30:04.000 So they were going under, they were not getting business.
00:30:08.000 They announced Saturday night, just Saturday night, it would be optional to wear a mask.
00:30:13.000 They got death threats.
00:30:15.000 They were accused of being white supremacists.
00:30:17.000 Ridiculous.
00:30:18.000 Ableist white supremacists committing a genocide against the disabled community.
00:30:23.000 I'm not kidding.
00:30:24.000 They got blasted by these comments.
00:30:27.000 That place is like 20 minutes from my house in New Hampshire.
00:30:29.000 We need to stop pretending that these comments are real life.
00:30:34.000 We need to stop pretending that these replies that you guys get represent.
00:30:39.000 Customers to your business who want to buy a bakery fresh cinnamon bun.
00:30:44.000 Once we realize that, we can actually move forward in this country with real debates.
00:30:50.000 And for the moderate liberals who just don't like Trump, you will win more elections when you join us in pointing out these people are bad.
00:31:01.000 But unfortunately for us, I guess, even with this CSP poll, looks like just more than half of Democrats want.
00:31:09.000 Trump to die.
00:31:10.000 Yeah.
00:31:10.000 So good luck, America, man.
00:31:13.000 Well, and what's so interesting about that data is you can like buttress it with listening to someone like Hassan Piker, for example, is, you know, the way that conservative commentators, when they're talking about the Republican Party, they're like, they're so ineffective.
00:31:26.000 They don't do anything.
00:31:26.000 They're not sufficiently right wing enough, et cetera.
00:31:29.000 Hassan Piker has the same exact criticisms of the Democrat Party.
00:31:32.000 If you listen to the way that people like him talk, they're saying, these Democrats don't do anything.
00:31:36.000 They're always sitting around.
00:31:37.000 So, like, you kind of understand too, it's a bit of an arms race.
00:31:41.000 Now, the Democrat Party is obviously.
00:31:43.000 A bit more active than the Republican Party.
00:31:45.000 I think that'd be fair to say because the Democrat Congress was in lockstep with Trump or not Trump, Biden's agenda a lot more than the Republican Congress's with Trump's agenda.
00:31:52.000 Like, for example, Trump has been like demanding the SAVAC passed and he collaborated with Paxton on some ops to get that conducted.
00:32:00.000 It still hasn't passed.
00:32:01.000 But from their perspective, the Democrat Party is also not sufficiently, you know, left wing enough.
00:32:07.000 And so, yeah, it is kind of this arms racist Mexican standoff.
00:32:11.000 But I'd be curious to see what this polling would reflect on the Republican Party, where I think the majority of Republicans.
00:32:17.000 Would be pretty horrified to imagine President Biden just dying outright.
00:32:22.000 I mean, I would find that pretty sad.
00:32:24.000 Like, I'm human enough to not want people to just die.
00:32:29.000 But I think this does demonstrate a difference in the way that they actually just perceive life.
00:32:33.000 This is why the dying overnight in his sleep is shocking because that 55% positivity.
00:32:40.000 Because I got to be honest, if they were neutral on it, people who hated Trump were like, well, the balance there is if you said it sucks that he died, but we really think he's a bad leader.
00:32:50.000 I could understand that argument.
00:32:52.000 It sucks.
00:32:53.000 It is.
00:32:53.000 But the wanting a military coup, 60%?
00:32:58.000 I mean, that's insane.
00:33:01.000 But that's their identity.
00:33:02.000 This is what I've learned from my experience being in Bucks County.
00:33:05.000 I live in the purplest part of the purplest state in the country, right?
00:33:08.000 You can't win a presidency without Pennsylvania, and it's tough to win Pennsylvania without Bucks County.
00:33:12.000 That's why the film I'm in was about our conflict, because it's a very important place.
00:33:17.000 And what you realize, it's about their identity, Tim.
00:33:19.000 That's what it's about.
00:33:21.000 And The reason that they say what they say on this poll is it validates their identity to lash out and make a statement like this so they can feel good about themselves.
00:33:31.000 And it's very difficult to ever have a rational conversation with a person who feels that way.
00:33:36.000 Yeah.
00:33:36.000 I mean, I don't disagree with anything anyone's saying, not substantially, but there are times where I feel like Kyle Reese just screaming about the future is going to be so terrible, right?
00:33:49.000 Like, I'm from the Terminator.
00:33:51.000 If the Democrats get control of the government the way that they had control of the government when Barack Obama was elected, right?
00:34:01.000 Super majority, you are going to see sweeping changes like sweeping changes, and America will never be the same.
00:34:09.000 The situation in California, where Republicans just cannot win like, they've got little enclaves down in Orange County.
00:34:16.000 There's a lot of Republicans, there's Republicans spread out through the desert.
00:34:20.000 That's going to be the whole country.
00:34:22.000 Like, there will be, there will not be a situation where Republicans can win because the Democrats will change the rules so that way they win.
00:34:30.000 And again, I bring up California because this is the way it works.
00:34:34.000 People in California, like they just say, well, you know, that's what the law is.
00:34:39.000 But the law is literally allowing them to cheat.
00:34:42.000 And it's not cheating because it's legal.
00:34:44.000 That's right.
00:34:45.000 It's not actually cheating.
00:34:47.000 And then so people have a simple way to stop the argument.
00:34:51.000 Well, that's the law.
00:34:52.000 Change the law then.
00:34:53.000 And it's like, how do you change the law when you can't get anyone elected?
00:34:56.000 Well, you can't.
00:34:57.000 So you're stuck.
00:34:59.000 And it's, you know, I don't, I don't, we talk about, you know, civil conflict here enough, and I don't want to get into that.
00:35:05.000 But, you know, That is a real possibility, especially when the people that are young people in the Democrat Party are pretty extreme.
00:35:15.000 When you see these kind of numbers, when they look at the Republican president with this kind of derision and this kind of animosity, they look at, and not just the president, because they look at Republicans generally, the MAGA Republicans, they look at MAGA Republicans as the same way they look at Donald Trump.
00:35:35.000 And they will think, well, we have to save our democracy.
00:35:39.000 We have to save our democracy from these people.
00:35:41.000 So we have to make sure that they're disenfranchised, essentially.
00:35:44.000 We can't allow their voice to be heard.
00:35:46.000 We can't allow them to influence our democracy because it's our democracy.
00:35:50.000 It's not their democracy.
00:35:52.000 It's not theirs.
00:35:53.000 We have control.
00:35:55.000 And it's a word game, yeah.
00:35:57.000 But at the end of the day, that is a very real possibility in either 2028 or 2032 for when, if the president is a Democrat with a sweeping control, with a Congress that's swept by Democrats.
00:36:11.000 Well, I mean, this is like the key difference between the two parties ultimately is like the North Star of the Democrat Party has a much stronger pull for voters.
00:36:11.000 Yeah.
00:36:21.000 It's much easier to mobilize along because their North Star is ultimately just anti white.
00:36:24.000 Fundamentally, that is like what everything kind of points back to.
00:36:27.000 This is why Zorhan Mamdani like cites Nelson Mandela, South Africa.
00:36:32.000 It says like ideal system.
00:36:33.000 He says he's like a big admirer of South Africa.
00:36:36.000 And we've seen how things have gone there.
00:36:37.000 For the Republican Party, our North Star is like, Very vague, difficult to like truly describe.
00:36:44.000 No one can really even agree on like what the definition is.
00:36:46.000 It's just these vague ideas of like freedom and liberty.
00:36:51.000 And again, like this kind of blurry picture of like the 1980s is broadly, I think, what the North Star is for the Republicans.
00:36:58.000 You can't really mobilize on that because if you ask, like, go to the RNC and ask me, what do you think freedom is?
00:37:03.000 What do you think liberty is?
00:37:04.000 Like, no one's going to have any agreement.
00:37:05.000 It's going to be all boilerplate.
00:37:06.000 You know, what do you want to go back to the 1980s?
00:37:08.000 It's like, okay, well, that was just an earlier stage of liberalism.
00:37:11.000 So it's like, The left has something really, the Democrat Party broadly has something that they can mobilize on very quickly.
00:37:18.000 They know exactly what to do.
00:37:19.000 Again, taking apart is much easier than building.
00:37:23.000 You know, the redistributionist policies, that's very motivating for voters.
00:37:27.000 Republicans are just like, I don't know, let's keep this all together.
00:37:30.000 Let's not start dismantling things.
00:37:33.000 It's just, it's really hard to compete with.
00:37:36.000 So, I mean, that's kind of, I mean, this is something people have been saying for a long time on the right, but it's like the Republican Party really does need to come up with a way.
00:37:43.000 To, or rather, they need to come up with a message that is like pro something.
00:37:47.000 It's like providing a vision to the American people.
00:37:49.000 Trump did this with Make America Great Again.
00:37:52.000 But, you know, once you start having these problems like Iran, that falls apart quickly.
00:37:55.000 I described the Democratic Party the same way I would, in terms of the politicians, how they behave, how they act.
00:38:04.000 I would say that strategy, I see it so similarly in the Republican Party these days.
00:38:09.000 And there's a, I call it the chicken coop naivete.
00:38:13.000 That is, I'm rather shocked, actually.
00:38:18.000 It is true that we ended up in this war, we ended up in this gas shortage, the economy's in the position that it's in, because Trump's first term was pretty good.
00:38:25.000 But I wonder if all of that lawfare and just battering down of Trump, Finally, he broke him and he lets in the wolves into the hen house, and we end up with war, conflict, crisis because that's what the machine wanted.
00:38:37.000 Well, he seems to be a lot.
00:38:39.000 Let me think out a word this while being like, because I do mean this like with politeness.
00:38:44.000 He seems to be a lot less active, especially in 2026.
00:38:48.000 Like, he doesn't really seem to be, he doesn't seem to have as many irons in the fire as he did last year, certainly compared to the first term.
00:38:57.000 Like, when he's in these press pools and whatnot, he's like talking about the ballroom and like, The Trump arc and stuff, or arch, arc to Trump, whatever you call it.
00:39:05.000 And I'm like, I mean, those are cool.
00:39:07.000 Like, I'd like to get those built, but it's not really too high on the priority list.
00:39:10.000 I think Trump is kind of like doing his thing.
00:39:13.000 I think part of what's going on there is he's not on Twitter anymore.
00:39:16.000 He's not even, according to some reporting, he's not even really watching Fox anymore.
00:39:20.000 Like, he's pretty much just on Truth Social, watching Fox every once in a while.
00:39:25.000 So he's not really like seeing a lot of what's happening right now.
00:39:29.000 He's like, when in the first term, he's on Twitter all day long, he's tweeting a lot.
00:39:33.000 Now it's just these super long posts on Truth Social that you know he's dictated to someone.
00:39:38.000 So I think that's part of what's going on.
00:39:39.000 I think Trump is just, he's older now.
00:39:40.000 He's just like a lot less active, maybe would be the word to use.
00:39:46.000 And so, you know, in these moments, you kind of have to look around and be like, all right, who's going to be the torchbearer here?
00:39:52.000 That's when you kind of look over at Congress.
00:39:54.000 It's like, okay, well, we elect you to carry out Trump's agenda.
00:39:57.000 Like, let's get moving here, you know, crickets.
00:40:00.000 So, you know, I think that's partially what's going on with Trump.
00:40:06.000 Is yeah, I think he's always been persuadable by people he trusts as well.
00:40:13.000 And I think there's people in his inner circle that really wanted to see this Iran war carried out.
00:40:19.000 Yeah, I think he was bleeding allies around the time the war took place.
00:40:22.000 So when you're bleeding allies, you start to look at who your biggest cheerleaders are.
00:40:25.000 At that time, it was like Laura Loomer, it was like Mark Levin.
00:40:29.000 Well, Trump's maintained his core base.
00:40:32.000 He's lost the coalition, though.
00:40:33.000 The coalition, meaning there's a lot of moderates and a lot of libertarians.
00:40:36.000 Yeah.
00:40:37.000 I do think, however, the big issue is not so much that people are mad at Trump.
00:40:41.000 When it comes to your regular person, you're walking down the street and talk to them, more so they're indifferent.
00:40:46.000 There's no enthusiasm right now.
00:40:48.000 It feels like we're not accomplishing anything.
00:40:50.000 It feels like we're drifting away from the light at the end of the tunnel.
00:40:54.000 And the left is highly motivated right now.
00:40:56.000 So that's why I think the prediction markets are swinging heavily in their favor and it's looking apocalyptic for the right.
00:41:02.000 Then the GOP just decides to leave.
00:41:04.000 We're going to cut it early.
00:41:05.000 Goodbye.
00:41:06.000 And they just go home.
00:41:07.000 So.
00:41:08.000 They could be, you know, to be fair, to be fair, I will say this.
00:41:11.000 Maybe the reason they called it early is to get everybody campaigning.
00:41:14.000 They want to get them out of D.C. into the streets.
00:41:17.000 So that could be the reason.
00:41:19.000 But it does look miserably bad.
00:41:22.000 That's how desperate they are.
00:41:24.000 They come off as lazy.
00:41:25.000 Well, and the common sentiment I'm hearing from people, just again, people from back home, family, people that are Republicans, they're patriots.
00:41:34.000 And I kind of share this with you actually a bit the thing they're saying isn't they're not attacking Trump.
00:41:39.000 Like when you go on Twitter, that people are just attacking Trump or whatever.
00:41:42.000 What they're saying is almost the opposite, which is if Trump can't get it done, I don't know who can.
00:41:48.000 And I kind of share that sentiment.
00:41:50.000 Like, if someone as, and it's a positive attribute if you're the president, as stubborn as President Trump is, can still be persuaded to go to war with Iran, I don't know who could, like, withstand that.
00:42:00.000 I mean, because there's clearly mechanisms, there's lobbies.
00:42:03.000 I mean, you have, like, the Israel lobby, you have the military industrial complex lobby, you know, multiple people lining up for this war to be carried out.
00:42:14.000 I mean, if he couldn't withstand that, you look around, you're like, well, the bench isn't going to withstand that anymore.
00:42:19.000 So that's the sentiment I'm hearing from people.
00:42:22.000 Is not like, you know, Trump's betrayed us or whatever.
00:42:25.000 They're just like more disappointed, but it's kind of what they expected from government, which is depressing.
00:42:30.000 They didn't expect good governance, and they're like, if Trump couldn't do it, I don't know who.
00:42:35.000 Here's the Calche balance of power for the midterms Democrat sweep is at 61%.
00:42:44.000 The chance of Republican holding the Senate is the prediction marked at 32.
00:42:47.000 It improved a little bit.
00:42:49.000 It dropped and it went back up maybe a point or two.
00:42:52.000 Somehow there's a Republican sweep at 8%.
00:42:55.000 I ain't taking that bet.
00:42:57.000 Yeah.
00:42:57.000 Yeah.
00:42:58.000 Well, the Democrat Senate dip was because of Peralta tapes or the Peralta files.
00:43:02.000 But I just, and I can't stand the.
00:43:05.000 Listen, I understand for the Trump diehards and the Republican diehards, they're like, we got to maintain morale and say that we're going to get it.
00:43:12.000 We're going to win.
00:43:13.000 But at the same time, dude, the people that are like, no way, this is all fake.
00:43:18.000 The media is lying and Trump's going to win.
00:43:19.000 I'm just like, the economy is bad.
00:43:23.000 Everybody knows it.
00:43:25.000 Starbucks is closing locations.
00:43:27.000 I mean, that should be screaming in your face.
00:43:28.000 We're seeing more.
00:43:30.000 Things like this, but people look to certain vanity metrics like, I don't know, things are looking pretty good.
00:43:34.000 No, what is the debt?
00:43:37.000 The interest on the debt is the third highest expense, has been for like the past year.
00:43:42.000 We're at $40 trillion.
00:43:44.000 Now, a lot of people don't know what that means.
00:43:46.000 Let me break it down for you.
00:43:47.000 The government is going to have to spend most of its money to pay the interest on the debt instead of funding services.
00:43:53.000 So, we are about to get hit by a tsunami, and whoever's in power at the time, they're going to face, they're going to feel the brunt of that to their face.
00:44:03.000 Democrats will use it right now to take power.
00:44:06.000 Republicans' only real opportunity is procedure, winning in courtrooms and changing the rules.
00:44:12.000 Well, and to your first point you made about people kind of just hand waving away the polls, I'm like, I've seen this story before.
00:44:18.000 I don't know if people remember the 2022 midterms when everyone was saying, okay, the polling saying the Democrats are going to pick up Pennsylvania, they're going to keep the Senate or whatever, but the Republicans are going to win the House.
00:44:32.000 Well, actually, the vibes, it feels like the Republicans are going to, where it's a red wave incoming.
00:44:37.000 Feels like that.
00:44:37.000 You know what?
00:44:38.000 And then election day came and the polls were like broadly correct.
00:44:41.000 I mean, obviously, they were going to screw up a few races, but like, again, data did kind of trump vibes in that instance.
00:44:49.000 And then, so yeah, so people are like saying it's like a repeat of 2022.
00:44:53.000 Everyone's like, okay, look, the polling says we're underwater, but the vibes are with the Republicans.
00:44:57.000 And I'm like, first of all, I don't even know if the vibes are, I mean, clearly the vibes are not there.
00:45:00.000 I don't think they're Republicans at all.
00:45:02.000 Because in 2022, I was like, I kind of got that feeling of like, okay, everyone really hates Biden, whatever.
00:45:07.000 And then additionally, the polling's worse than it was in the last two midterm cycles for Republicans.
00:45:12.000 So I'm just not seeing it.
00:45:15.000 You know, again, I would be delighted to be proven wrong.
00:45:18.000 But yeah, I just don't understand.
00:45:20.000 I don't understand this impetus to be like, well, vibes are going to triumph over the data that we have.
00:45:26.000 No, that's not happening at all.
00:45:30.000 Like I said, at the end of the day, if you've got a bad economy, the public takes it out on the party in power.
00:45:37.000 That's all there is to it.
00:45:39.000 That is like the Iron law of elections.
00:45:42.000 If there is a bad economy, the people will take it out on the people in power, no matter whether it was their fault or not, right?
00:45:50.000 Like, if the Democrats were in power right now, if they had the White House and the House and the Senate, people would be all in for voting for Republicans.
00:46:04.000 It's just people vote with their pocketbooks.
00:46:06.000 It's kitchen table issues before anything.
00:46:09.000 It's the economy stupid.
00:46:10.000 The most important thing for any politician is making sure.
00:46:14.000 That the economy is working for the American people because the laws that they pass generally don't affect everybody.
00:46:22.000 They affect certain groups of people here and there.
00:46:25.000 Some people get a little bit of a bump, some people get a little bit of a hit.
00:46:28.000 But most laws that the federal government passes don't affect people, or the people that do get affected are not aware of how they're being affected.
00:46:36.000 But the cost of gas affects everybody, the prices at the grocery store affect everybody.
00:46:44.000 So, I mean, I I don't know how to say it any more simple.
00:46:47.000 It is the economy.
00:46:48.000 It's always been the economy.
00:46:50.000 Well, and again, I think because so many people understand the state of politics, it's an enthusiasm thing.
00:46:55.000 So, for the culture warrior voters, the Republicans did not deliver a little bit.
00:47:00.000 Again, you know, like Tate says, the land acknowledgement.
00:47:03.000 Like Trump did good things, immigration, USAID.
00:47:06.000 But the day to day stuff, it feels like we had this Republican trifecta and nothing's changed.
00:47:14.000 You know, again, I understand USAID is gone, immigration stuff.
00:47:17.000 But culturally, we're not seeing these victories.
00:47:20.000 We are not seeing the arrests that we want to see.
00:47:23.000 You know, I think Kash Patel is doing a great job.
00:47:25.000 He's doing a lot of, you know, boots on the ground, street level crime, criminal law enforcement.
00:47:33.000 So he's getting a lot of criminals off the streets.
00:47:34.000 But people wanted to see a resolution to this 10 year conflict, and we didn't get it.
00:47:41.000 So maybe it's just not going to happen.
00:47:43.000 Last night, Dr. Elfenbein.
00:47:48.000 Was on about, and he was went through his story about what happened to him during COVID and stuff.
00:47:53.000 And it was, it was a really good reminder of how just how incredibly bad the government behaved in regards to COVID, the things that the government did.
00:48:03.000 And, you know, it reminded me all the people that are really upset about the fact that there's nothing that's going to happen to anyone.
00:48:11.000 And all of the horrible, horrible stories that you hear about people having to watch family members die from a different room, they're like looking at them through the window.
00:48:20.000 He was, uh, Ron was talking about, you know, kids that were terminal that passed away and their parents couldn't go in the room.
00:48:31.000 The people that are upset about the COVID stuff and knowing that nothing's going to happen, that Biden's pardoned everybody involved for, you know, whatever, 15 years prior.
00:48:43.000 I mean, it's no surprise that people are pissed off that nothing's done.
00:48:49.000 Let's go to the story from the New York Times.
00:48:51.000 An army of paid creators is carpeting the web with political content.
00:48:55.000 It's all fake.
00:48:56.000 And we've pointed this out on the show several times.
00:48:59.000 You'll go on Instagram or TikTok and you will see the same video 5,000 times.
00:49:05.000 And there's two reasons for this.
00:49:06.000 The first is a lot of it's paid.
00:49:09.000 So we actually got a confession from some guy.
00:49:11.000 I went to this same account, Drew Yaps, and talked about my experience with it.
00:49:18.000 And it's really fucked up, though, because you have so much stuff on your reels that isn't labeled as ads.
00:49:24.000 It's just people making videos about stuff that really is an ad.
00:49:28.000 And especially when it starts.
00:49:29.000 To become something in the political realm, talking about, oh, prices are super expensive here.
00:49:36.000 They always wanted us to mention the local policymakers, you know, not affecting or like not creating the change about it and like calling them greedy and shit.
00:49:45.000 And it's really, really fucked up when you think about it that the amount of brainwashing that is taking place in social media.
00:49:53.000 I was considering if I really wanted to do this or not, but I'm bored, so I figured I might as well just make this video.
00:50:01.000 So I'm going to be addressing the videos on my account.
00:50:06.000 So everything I posted on the account.
00:50:11.000 Uh, drew yaps, all of it was paid for, so it was user generated content.
00:50:18.000 Uh, it was through this app, which they basically paid me retainer and then any view bonuses to make TikToks/slash Instagram reels about whatever content they wanted me to do.
00:50:30.000 So they were paying me to post very left-leaning stuff about how Texas was super expensive and how it has been hard for me living in Texas.
00:50:40.000 I don't even fucking live in Texas, I'm from Utah, I'm in Florida right now.
00:50:45.000 Uh, they kicked me off the campaign like absolute assholes.
00:50:48.000 So, yeah, I figured I would come on back onto this same account, Drew Yaps, and talk about my experience with it.
00:51:00.000 And it's really fucked up, though, because you have so much stuff on your reels that is okay.
00:51:05.000 That's that's the loop, right?
00:51:06.000 Yep, so uh, it's all fake, it is horrifyingly fake and effective.
00:51:14.000 Regular people scrolling through their TikToks.
00:51:17.000 And they see all of these people saying the same thing.
00:51:22.000 You know, guys, this is the black pill right here.
00:51:29.000 How can you effectively inform a population incapable of realizing they're being played?
00:51:37.000 And on the other side of the spectrum, believing everything is a manipulation.
00:51:42.000 So if we simultaneously have all of these videos, I don't know about every single one that New York Times posted here, but I have seen it.
00:51:50.000 Where it's the exact same post.
00:51:52.000 What they're talking about is someone's like, it's more expensive being in Texas than it is in LA.
00:51:56.000 I've seen those and I've complained about it, how they're identical over and over again.
00:52:02.000 Then you have people spam blasting the comments saying that we are getting paid here at Timcast by a foreign government, completely fake.
00:52:11.000 This is one of the reasons why I think a lot of people are tuning out, why we see viewership decline.
00:52:16.000 Because, man, you know, it's just so wild because we predicted this.
00:52:21.000 They flooded the zone with noise.
00:52:24.000 Then networks started buying up big shows.
00:52:27.000 They are making it so that no one will want to use social media.
00:52:32.000 This is how they end the decentralized media system, the independent media system.
00:52:38.000 Everyone's going to be like, I just can't because every time you open up Instagram or YouTube, all you hear is someone screaming at the top of their lungs like nails on a chalkboard.
00:52:48.000 So they tune out.
00:52:49.000 It's this.
00:52:51.000 This is why I can't stand Instagram.
00:52:53.000 I go on, I go on, and this is why, you know, I mentioned this a couple weeks ago.
00:52:57.000 I've been watching all these liberal commenters.
00:53:00.000 I dove in.
00:53:01.000 I started seeing so many of the same videos.
00:53:04.000 I started intentionally going to their profiles and looking at their videos, see what they were doing, and then seeing how many of them are producing identical videos.
00:53:12.000 It's just you open the Instagram app, and what do you get?
00:53:16.000 Some person is literally screaming at the top of their lungs.
00:53:18.000 No, I don't say figuratively, literally.
00:53:22.000 I can't tell you how many videos I've seen where people desperate for attention, instead of just saying, You know, guys, I was reading the news here.
00:53:30.000 Here's how I feel.
00:53:31.000 The videos open with them saying something like, those fat, inbred mega.
00:53:36.000 And I'm like, oh my God.
00:53:38.000 There's literally one video where a guy's driving his car and all he does is scream his opinion.
00:53:45.000 The Republicans.
00:53:47.000 How many of those exist?
00:53:48.000 It's endless.
00:53:50.000 Tim, there's one more thing, though, that you left out from this article.
00:53:54.000 AI allows you to record at one time, upload 70 avatars, and make 70 different versions of the exact same video with the exact same talk track.
00:54:03.000 One is a black woman, one is a white guy, one is a Chinese gal, you name it.
00:54:08.000 One video, 70 versions of it, all saying the exact same thing.
00:54:14.000 And that's one of the scariest parts of that article.
00:54:18.000 Yeah, it's hard to go a day without talking about AI just because it's already having a massive impact.
00:54:25.000 Even people that don't realize it, I think I've said this before on the show, but used to be people would go and they would type in something on Google because they're looking for something.
00:54:33.000 But now that you type in your question into the Google search bar, And it'll give you the answer.
00:54:40.000 We didn't leave it out, actually.
00:54:41.000 We have this video here.
00:54:42.000 I'll show you just a few seconds of this.
00:54:44.000 To Jesus Christ, Charlie Kirk, who's.
00:54:47.000 Let me jump ahead because I don't know what the point of that intro part is.
00:54:50.000 Weird ways.
00:54:51.000 Just address it when it happens as soon as you can safely.
00:54:54.000 Amen.
00:54:55.000 I'm building a weather app that will show the weather three dimensionally because people are like, oh, a hurricane is a sphere, it's a flat plane.
00:55:03.000 No, it's a big sphere that's undulating and twisting over the earth and sucking up water like.
00:55:09.000 Like a sponge over rivers and lakes.
00:55:11.000 So, I'm building an app with AI that's going to show you that.
00:55:13.000 It will be live one of these days.
00:55:16.000 And many of you are like, Tim, why did you play that clip of Ian?
00:55:19.000 Because I want to show you this clip from our sister show, Gymcast URL, where Aaron was going on a rant about the weather and Bill's reaction was priceless.
00:55:28.000 I'm building a weather app that will show the weather three dimensionally because people are like, oh, a hurricane is a flat plane.
00:55:35.000 No, it's a big sphere that's undulating and twisting over the earth and sucking up water like.
00:55:41.000 Like a sponge over rivers and lakes.
00:55:44.000 So, I'm building an app with AI that's going to show you that.
00:55:46.000 It will be live one of these days.
00:55:49.000 I'm excited.
00:55:51.000 I feel terrible.
00:55:52.000 I ruined the punchline on you.
00:55:53.000 Sorry for jumping over there.
00:55:55.000 No, you're good.
00:55:56.000 So, I took this clip that I saw Phil post that was absolutely hilarious and I ran it through.
00:56:04.000 It's called Higgsfield Genjutsu, the AI app.
00:56:08.000 And it transformed Ian into this redheaded woman and Phil into Bill.
00:56:15.000 I didn't tell it to change Phil.
00:56:17.000 What I did was I chose this as the reference video and chose an AI generated woman character to make Ian.
00:56:23.000 And it just made Phil a different person.
00:56:26.000 Look what it did.
00:56:27.000 What is the phone?
00:56:28.000 It's the view counter in the bottom right.
00:56:30.000 Yeah, it turns into a microphone or something.
00:56:32.000 Like, what is that?
00:56:33.000 I don't even know what's going on.
00:56:34.000 Higgsfield has some weird phone.
00:56:34.000 What is Ian?
00:56:36.000 Technical deficiencies.
00:56:37.000 Well, I probably didn't understand what it was, but that's your point is exactly why I brought that up.
00:56:44.000 One person records one video.
00:56:46.000 Yep.
00:56:47.000 Then loads it into an AI and then also uploads 15 different fake AI generated people, clicks render, and they get just instantly 15 different versions of the same political talking point and they can spam blast it out through a network of accounts.
00:57:04.000 These accounts exist where people will just post random video content, they'll re upload news clips just to get a base following and to exist.
00:57:14.000 That way, when they get a campaign, hey, we'll give you 10 bucks to play this video.
00:57:19.000 They will play the video, and then all of a sudden, you go on Instagram and you see 700 people all being like, I'm voting Democrat.
00:57:26.000 That's how, that's how they're.
00:57:27.000 So, look, you guys, you know, I'm going to be honest with you.
00:57:30.000 I am, it's demoralizing.
00:57:33.000 It really, really is.
00:57:35.000 If people are really just not smart enough, then what is the argument against, quote, some people must work at McDonald's?
00:57:43.000 I mean, look, Asmund Gold, there isn't one.
00:57:46.000 Asmund Gold likes to describe it as like there are some people that are best suited to make big rocks into little rocks, right?
00:57:53.000 Just, there's not really anything that you can train them to do.
00:57:57.000 So then why try to do a show to inform a population?
00:58:02.000 When the population is incapable of being informed, well, the reason to do a show is because there are enough people that can be informed and that can be motivated to go out and vote.
00:58:12.000 And the best idea, well, no voting doesn't matter.
00:58:15.000 If we're dealing with this and this is the basis by which people are choosing their leaders, then the best thing to do would be to change this show into a finance show so that people smart enough to try and suss out what's true or not can make sound financial investments and we all get rich and then with money can have influence over the system.
00:58:33.000 Just pay for.
00:58:34.000 Pay for AI creators.
00:58:36.000 No, that's illegal.
00:58:37.000 This is what's really crazy.
00:58:38.000 That's illegal?
00:58:39.000 It is illegal to do an ad without, it borders some of its criminal, depending on how and why you did it.
00:58:47.000 Typically, though, anytime you're paid to promote something or post a video, you have to disclose it.
00:58:52.000 Otherwise, it's a civil violation.
00:58:54.000 So it's like it is illegal, but the penalty is a fine or something.
00:58:59.000 So that's what that guy was saying that they're not disclosing that these are ads.
00:59:04.000 And indeed, all of these are advertisements or fake.
00:59:07.000 Because otherwise, imagine what would happen if, I don't know, I offered to pay people to just make a bunch of videos quoting Tim Cass and talking about how great the show is.
00:59:16.000 Yeah.
00:59:17.000 They would have to disclose that they were paid to do it.
00:59:19.000 But this is the world we live in.
00:59:20.000 So, yeah, maybe let's just go over financial strategy and sound ways to make money.
00:59:26.000 Well, you said you're depressed, but I do think.
00:59:28.000 I didn't say depressed, I said demoralized.
00:59:30.000 Demoralized.
00:59:31.000 Sorry, I used the wrong word.
00:59:33.000 But demoralized, I do think there is one thing that we need to focus on, especially the conservatives that we haven't done enough of since COVID.
00:59:39.000 It's on education.
00:59:41.000 You need to teach these kids critical thinking skills.
00:59:44.000 And COVID woke us up about what was going on in the classrooms or the lack of classrooms because kids were at home.
00:59:50.000 And I feel like we lost a lot of that over these last six years.
00:59:54.000 And if we're ever going to have a populace that doesn't make you demoralized, it's going to be because they actually have these critical thinking skills.
01:00:02.000 We got to bring that back.
01:00:04.000 Well, I mean, I know what you're saying, but like, I guess, you know, when you've got.
01:00:11.000 Enough of the accounts or enough accounts that are posting the same thing, you'd think that people, because again, these are exactly the same narrations.
01:00:20.000 It's just a different person posting it.
01:00:23.000 You'd think that people would realize, but I feel like it's not really, they don't consciously know that these are the same things.
01:00:30.000 It's just reinforcing the idea.
01:00:32.000 You know, it's not like they're trying to, you know, sway people.
01:00:37.000 They're trying to make sure people kind of have it ingrained in them.
01:00:40.000 Oh, the Democrats are good, the Republicans are bad, or whatever the narrative is, right?
01:00:44.000 If there were Republicans doing it, it would be Republicans good, Democrats bad.
01:00:47.000 So I don't know that critical thinking would actually solve it because this isn't about having something that you think.
01:00:55.000 It's reinforcing a narrative that you already believe.
01:00:57.000 I feel like the people that fell for it before are just the same ones that would fall for it again.
01:01:01.000 But I want to read this super chat.
01:01:03.000 You know, we normally save it, but this one's relevant.
01:01:05.000 Maine X community says, Don't be demoralized.
01:01:07.000 We're all here and want to destroy the DSA, destroy the global news, access, Russia, Iran, China, Venezuela, Cuba, et cetera.
01:01:14.000 Luke R. and AJ are crying nonstop about Iran.
01:01:17.000 But crippling Iran is key, like we did with Maduro, Cuba, Greenland, new gen cartel fight.
01:01:23.000 The reason I wanted to read that is the demoralization is in political power is not going to be found in voting for these people.
01:01:30.000 And the people who are voting for these members of Congress, be it Democrat or Republican, don't even know what they're voting for or why, they are ridiculously and easily manipulated.
01:01:40.000 They get extremely angry, and many of them get violent.
01:01:43.000 But the real means of influence and power is money.
01:01:48.000 So, the best thing for our audience is not for us to discuss the goings on of the world, but to discuss the goings on of the world in the context of who you short and who you buy so that we all get rich.
01:01:58.000 Then we have influence over the system.
01:02:02.000 Yeah.
01:02:02.000 Money dictates policy more than the votes ever did.
01:02:07.000 And we've got the studies from numerous institutions.
01:02:11.000 I think one of the more recent ones in the past 10 years showed that I forgot how they put it, but like 60%.
01:02:20.000 Of legislation came at the request of a corporation or wealthy special interest groups, high profile special interest groups, lobbying groups, and the polls of the American people as to what they wanted to happen had almost no impact on the voting record of members of Congress.
01:02:36.000 Yeah, the.
01:02:39.000 But it makes sense.
01:02:40.000 If you're in Congress, are you going to listen to these people?
01:02:43.000 They're going, Did you know that it's more expensive to live in Texas than LA?
01:02:47.000 And you're a member of Congress being like, This is a chicken.
01:02:50.000 They're balking at me.
01:02:51.000 I cannot take their advice as to how I'm going to run government.
01:02:54.000 No, I mean, like the SAVE Act is a prime example of that.
01:02:57.000 Something that the American people overwhelmingly want, and yet they still can't pass it.
01:03:02.000 And they probably won't pass it because their attitude is you think we want these people in control?
01:03:07.000 Yeah, right.
01:03:08.000 Members of Congress are probably like, nah, it's better off if the people are stupid and impotent.
01:03:11.000 I think it's probably members of the Senate that are more like that.
01:03:15.000 I think Congress people are more grounded because they're shorter terms.
01:03:19.000 That's where, I mean, look, everyone knows Congress is where the clown show happens, right?
01:03:23.000 You get weirdos in Congress on a regular basis.
01:03:26.000 You don't generally get weirdos in the Senate.
01:03:28.000 They look at themselves as, You know, more deliberative, they're they kind of have their nose in the air, they look at themselves as the upper chain or they're the upper chamber of the government, and so you get the weirdos and con.
01:03:39.000 Yo, look, man, I look at this and I just see the philosophical zombie, which in layman's terms is NPCs.
01:03:49.000 Yeah, but like I said, this is all about reinforcing a narrative that people already believe.
01:03:52.000 If people don't like this, they sweep past, right?
01:03:54.000 If you're a conservative, that's not what I'm talking about.
01:03:56.000 I'm talking about is each and every one of these people.
01:04:00.000 Who lacks the cognitive faculties to do a Google search to try and suss out what is or is not?
01:04:07.000 See an advertisement for a $30 video to post some statement, and they go, Oh, I'll do that.
01:04:15.000 Wow.
01:04:16.000 There's no thought to what they're doing or why they're doing it.
01:04:19.000 And I wonder if these people have internal monologues.
01:04:22.000 It's very debatable.
01:04:24.000 The pressing question.
01:04:25.000 I mean, you know, to be honest, I did an interview with Flat Earth Dave, and.
01:04:31.000 I told them I am not so egotistically attached to my beliefs that I would be offended by anything you say.
01:04:38.000 You can tell me that the earth is a gigantic macaroni noodle, and I'd be like, that's a weird thing to think.
01:04:43.000 I don't think so, but I'm not mad that you think it.
01:04:47.000 But these are the kind of people that get angry.
01:04:51.000 They don't think when you're like, actually, Trump did not call Nazis very fine people.
01:04:57.000 They get physically agitated and they feel anger and pain.
01:05:03.000 And I think it's just they lack the capabilities.
01:05:06.000 I wonder if that really is the defining trait of the quote unquote NPC or the philosophical zombie, an individual who cannot deviate from that track and they get angry if someone tries to make them.
01:05:17.000 Yeah, well, I'm curious where you're seeing all these stories about people basically outsourcing their thinking to an LLM and if that's going to exasperate this issue of, okay, we can't quite put a.
01:05:28.000 I'm for AI now.
01:05:29.000 Let's go.
01:05:30.000 Yeah.
01:05:30.000 Well, I've maintained the position.
01:05:32.000 Most of these people probably should just take the buyout whenever.
01:05:36.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:05:37.000 Like, kind of unironious.
01:05:38.000 The matrix of the weights.
01:05:39.000 All you can want and more.
01:05:41.000 Like, if we could just silo, granted, it's going to be tough with democracy, but, you know, once we get rid of that and all that, then we can.
01:05:41.000 Yeah.
01:05:47.000 We'll vote for it in two seconds.
01:05:48.000 Then, you know, and they're removed from the equation, democratically speaking, then you can just silo them away and they're like goon chambers or whatever.
01:05:56.000 And then, like, the 10%, you know, I was thinking, I was like, you know, the Jehovah's Witness were kind of cooking when they're like, maybe there's only like 144,000 people that are like insulted.
01:06:05.000 I'm like, you know, I've seen them every time I see them on the street in New York, I'm like, what are these?
01:06:09.000 Jack wagons.
01:06:10.000 Well, I go buy them.
01:06:11.000 I'm like, what's your pamphlet say again?
01:06:14.000 144,000?
01:06:16.000 Yeah.
01:06:16.000 If you remove athletes from Wikipedia's notable people, you are left with around that many people that are considered notable.
01:06:22.000 Oh, you're on there.
01:06:23.000 I'm not.
01:06:24.000 So I guess jury is out if I'm insulted.
01:06:25.000 And I'm Ginger anyway, but I think.
01:06:27.000 Well, that proves you're not.
01:06:28.000 So you just fight an uphill battle.
01:06:30.000 Except it'll be easier for you, you know?
01:06:32.000 I mean, look, like if AI can serve up something exceptional, then I'd probably take the buyout.
01:06:37.000 Take the buyout.
01:06:38.000 Yeah.
01:06:39.000 I mean, I got no problem with video games.
01:06:41.000 So if they came out with AI generated video games with like a Neuralink headband, no surgeries, but if they had a headband you could put on and then you could play GTA, but it felt real.
01:06:41.000 Right.
01:06:51.000 I'd probably play, like, I got to be honest, I don't play a lot of video games an hour every week, maybe.
01:06:56.000 If World of Warcraft Forever is coming out, we have to talk about this because it really does matter culturally.
01:07:02.000 And I'm not joking.
01:07:05.000 I would consider playing World of Warcraft, you know, a couple hours with friends just to hang out and have a good time.
01:07:11.000 But that's not the buyout.
01:07:12.000 Playing video games sometimes is totally fine.
01:07:15.000 The buyout is when you plug yourself into the goon chamber 24 7.
01:07:18.000 Like the buyout, like I'm saying, I want to play FIFA, but I want to be like pitch side.
01:07:23.000 I want to be the manager.
01:07:24.000 I want to go in the locker room, like give the players a pep talk and like be the manager.
01:07:29.000 Dude, I'll like goy out, dude.
01:07:30.000 I'll go crazy when we get that.
01:07:32.000 Or like, yeah, 2K and you can actually like dunk for like white guys.
01:07:36.000 I mean, I think that's how you pick off most because everyone's like, well, that's how you pick off the white guys.
01:07:40.000 It's like with 2K, it's like, hey, dude, you're going to be like throwing it down at Madison Square Garden.
01:07:44.000 I'll be like, dude, yeah.
01:07:45.000 I could dunk.
01:07:46.000 Sign me up.
01:07:47.000 I mean, look, the.
01:07:47.000 Yeah.
01:07:49.000 It's an easy yes for me.
01:07:50.000 I don't know.
01:07:51.000 I can't speak on behalf of like all white boys.
01:07:53.000 Look, Activision just got the reins of the Halo franchise.
01:07:57.000 So we'll see where that goes because, you know, super soldiers are always cool in my book.
01:08:01.000 Dude, imagine you get the B one.
01:08:03.000 Yeah, right?
01:08:03.000 Yeah, okay.
01:08:04.000 Or I'd rather be a free thinker.
01:08:07.000 It's overrated.
01:08:09.000 No thanks.
01:08:09.000 Yeah.
01:08:10.000 It's a drag.
01:08:11.000 Yeah.
01:08:12.000 But look, I mean, I don't know that technology is the answer here, though.
01:08:18.000 Honestly, it's causing a lot of the problems.
01:08:22.000 I mean, I'm not particularly a big fan of universal enfranchisement generally, just because I don't think that the average people are actually that interested beyond the economy.
01:08:34.000 And the government does have influence over the economy, but they don't have absolute control over the economy.
01:08:44.000 There's a lot of different factors.
01:08:46.000 I think we should get rid of the Federal Reserve.
01:08:49.000 And allow the market to handle it, and we'd probably have better results.
01:08:52.000 And then we wouldn't have to have the government being so involved in our lives.
01:08:56.000 I want to jump to this story, which matters to each and every one of you oh so much World of Warcraft Forever.
01:09:03.000 Now, many of you may be saying, I don't care about video games.
01:09:05.000 It's not about video games.
01:09:06.000 This is about our inability to grow up and to move on, our demand for nostalgia, and what the future will do to us.
01:09:15.000 So, let me just start by saying this there are numerous channels on Instagram and YouTube.
01:09:22.000 They make AI generated 80s and 90s videos.
01:09:25.000 Some do 2000s, some do 70s, some do 60s.
01:09:29.000 And they are targeting people who grew up in these periods or who had their family, and they yearn for this time.
01:09:36.000 So, the 90s ones, I get sent these all the time.
01:09:38.000 Well, because I grew up in the 90s.
01:09:40.000 And there's the kitchen.
01:09:41.000 It looks just like my friend's kitchen.
01:09:43.000 There's wallpaper.
01:09:44.000 Who's to let wallpaper?
01:09:46.000 You can see they're walking to Blockbuster.
01:09:49.000 You can see the kids in the parking lot of the Blockbuster at night eating candy.
01:09:53.000 And everybody just wishes, oh, man, the 90s.
01:09:56.000 We want to go back.
01:09:57.000 Yes, us aging millennials want to go back to the 90s.
01:10:00.000 This is where it comes to World of Warcraft Forever.
01:10:01.000 I'm a big World of Warcraft fan where I was.
01:10:03.000 I played it back in the early days.
01:10:06.000 I was a high rank PvP fan.
01:10:09.000 I played Rogue for the most part, but I had an Endgame Rogue and Priest.
01:10:13.000 Those are the classes that I played.
01:10:15.000 I had a Healer, you know, it was fun.
01:10:16.000 And I played until I think Legion was the last expansion I played, which was a long time ago.
01:10:24.000 Was that like 10 years ago now?
01:10:26.000 Yep.
01:10:27.000 I tried loading all the discs onto my computer and it was just too much memory.
01:10:30.000 Well, so here's the thing.
01:10:31.000 I never got into it.
01:10:33.000 There was a server that was launched for World of Warcraft the Vanilla, meaning the first game, and it was massively popular.
01:10:43.000 Everybody loves it.
01:10:44.000 Blizzard gets it shut down and launches Warcraft Classic, World of Warcraft Classic.
01:10:48.000 So you can go play the original game.
01:10:51.000 And it was fun for a while.
01:10:52.000 And then they started rolling out the expansions again.
01:10:54.000 And I'm not interested in the expansions.
01:10:56.000 So I played Classic for a little bit.
01:10:58.000 And then they were like, we're going to do Burning Crusade.
01:10:59.000 I can't remember what happened, but I'm like, I'm out.
01:11:02.000 World of Warcraft Forever basically goes back 20 years to the original game from 20 years ago to bring back the original game.
01:11:12.000 They were much bigger back then.
01:11:14.000 The reason why I think this story matters, given the choice, everybody takes the buyout.
01:11:20.000 If you gave someone an opportunity and said, We're going to plug your brain into the matrix and you will be 16 and it will be the late 90s, early 2000s all over again, they would say yes.
01:11:33.000 Now, not everybody.
01:11:34.000 Some people have kids and they're like, I might go on the weekends and hang out with friends.
01:11:37.000 But a lot of people will choose to go back 20 years to relive those moments.
01:11:43.000 Here's what's crazy.
01:11:44.000 Times are supposed to change.
01:11:47.000 Now, I don't think it's supposed to change so rapidly the way they are now, but we weren't able to go back in time and relive our nostalgia.
01:11:55.000 We just told stories about it to the kids.
01:11:58.000 Ah, you know, when I was a kid.
01:11:59.000 But with the world turning digital, with us spending so much of our time in virtual realities, even if it's third person, soon it will be first person, like actual immersive.
01:12:11.000 People are going to choose to stay locked in their fake realities forever to relive the glory days.
01:12:18.000 Yeah, did you see the Newsweek piece?
01:12:21.000 They basically were talking about how Toys R Us is now setting up their stores or whatever for their comeback.
01:12:28.000 And they asked all these market researchers, and they were like, yeah, this is entirely adults.
01:12:33.000 And there was one, I think, I can't remember the name of the market research firm, but they're like top shelf.
01:12:38.000 This is who you go to for market research.
01:12:40.000 They said 55% of the toy market is now adults.
01:12:42.000 What?
01:12:43.000 So you have Toys R Us pretty much entirely for adults.
01:12:46.000 The entire toy market writ large is majority for adults.
01:12:49.000 I'm like, dude.
01:12:52.000 It's not arrested development.
01:12:53.000 These people have grown up in some sense, but they're just the nostalgia thing.
01:12:58.000 It's gone beyond like, oh, yeah, that song reminds me of that.
01:13:01.000 No, it's like, I wish I was a kid again.
01:13:04.000 What kind of guys are they selling to adults?
01:13:08.000 Funko Pops, Legos.
01:13:11.000 Oh, my God.
01:13:12.000 There's a lot of people that still buy action figures and they save them thinking, you know, oh, in 20 years, these things are going to be worth something.
01:13:20.000 It's like, bro, no, they're not.
01:13:23.000 People forget that the reason why an original Boba Fett in the card or whatever, like still in the package, the reason it's so much money is because there's like three of them.
01:13:33.000 In existence.
01:13:34.000 You know, every in the 90s, like the late 90s, when the new Star Wars movies came out, people were buying up all the Darth Mauls and stuff.
01:13:43.000 Oh, these are going to be worth so much money.
01:13:44.000 It's like, look, man, there's probably 20,000 of those in mint condition hidden around the US.
01:13:51.000 They're probably worth like $5,000.
01:13:53.000 Because no one saved the original Star Wars ones and they all disappeared.
01:13:57.000 These kids bought them and they played with them.
01:13:59.000 And then when the next one came out, everyone's like, don't play with them.
01:13:59.000 Right.
01:14:03.000 But, man, I think I had probably like 12 Shadowless first edition Charizards.
01:14:03.000 Yeah.
01:14:08.000 Dude, I have so many misprints.
01:14:10.000 Like, Pokemon cards?
01:14:11.000 You still have them?
01:14:12.000 Yes, and they're in really good condition.
01:14:13.000 What are they worth?
01:14:14.000 I don't know.
01:14:15.000 Probably a stupid amount.
01:14:15.000 We got Charizards?
01:14:17.000 Yeah.
01:14:17.000 Oh, yeah.
01:14:18.000 One Charizard could be like $250.
01:14:19.000 See, I thought that, but I could not find anyone actually willing to buy it online.
01:14:24.000 Even on the internet.
01:14:25.000 It says it's worth something, but.
01:14:27.000 That's the little die cast NASCARs.
01:14:29.000 I mean, I grew up loving NASCAR, but I would immediately rip the packaging open and race them around.
01:14:33.000 And I'm like looking on eBay now, and they're worth like hundreds of dollars.
01:14:36.000 A PSA, a PSA, wow, this is crazy.
01:14:38.000 An ungraded Charizard is worth $9,000.
01:14:41.000 Wow.
01:14:41.000 A PSA 10 is $335,000.
01:14:45.000 Yeah.
01:14:46.000 Oh, shit.
01:14:46.000 Sports, I mean, like, you know, baseball cards and stuff.
01:14:48.000 I mean, they've always been collectors, but like the market right now is insane.
01:14:52.000 There's like, there's an entire, I can't really name the app.
01:14:52.000 Is it really?
01:14:54.000 There's like a whole app that's just for trading card sales and people do like live stream auctions and stuff.
01:14:59.000 I'm like, what is going on?
01:15:01.000 Maybe because people aren't interested in art anymore.
01:15:02.000 So they're storing their wealth in, you know, Sammy Sosa cards or something.
01:15:06.000 You know what I hope?
01:15:06.000 I don't know.
01:15:07.000 I hope literally everybody who played World of Warcraft back in 06 signs up again because we desperately need a unified culture.
01:15:16.000 We desperately need.
01:15:17.000 I was talking about this earlier today with some friends.
01:15:20.000 Like, would we be better off?
01:15:22.000 This is not saying I know.
01:15:23.000 I'm asking you guys a literal question.
01:15:26.000 Would we be better off with no independent media and only major network news if it meant that everybody in this country was on the same page with disagreements here and there, but for the most part, a monoculture?
01:15:38.000 No.
01:15:39.000 Weirdo extremists demanding the lesbian bar wear masks.
01:15:42.000 We would be better off without weirdo extremists.
01:15:46.000 I mean, but the point is, if you have one or the other, you have the option of you know a small network of channels, maybe there's 30 channels, everyone kind of agrees, no one's really extreme, there's no media broadcasting for wacko lunacy, or we have the internet, which is just chaos in every direction and good luck who wins.
01:16:04.000 No, I think in a weird way, the main problem now, like for example, part of the reason monoculture stuck was because the country is a lot more homogenous.
01:16:13.000 Where now, if you abolish that, we went back to network television.
01:16:16.000 I actually think the ethnic divisions in the country would get worse because BET would be able to gobble.
01:16:24.000 Right now, among young people, there is a monoculture in the sense that they share a lot of the same sense of humor through memes and whatnot.
01:16:30.000 And I think if it went back to network programming, you would probably see ethnic siloing again.
01:16:36.000 I think that would be pretty likely.
01:16:38.000 You would have BET channels and all that, and you would have Telemundo and all that.
01:16:42.000 I think it would actually revert back to how it was.
01:16:46.000 But now the country is far less homogenous.
01:16:48.000 There's a lot more Hispanic people, a lot more Asian people, et cetera.
01:16:52.000 I think, for one, it would make it even more impossible for immigrants to assimilate.
01:16:58.000 I was at the NAB, National Association for Broadcasters Conference, like 10 years ago in Amsterdam.
01:17:06.000 And I was talking to these guys who were comedians.
01:17:08.000 I said, fame is over.
01:17:09.000 I said, fame as we know it is over.
01:17:12.000 And they disagreed and they were like, there's always going to be, you know, like insert famous football star.
01:17:17.000 And I was like, no, There will be some fame.
01:17:20.000 I'm saying, like, the general mechanisms of being famous are over because of social media and the internet.
01:17:25.000 Everyone's going to be a little bit famous in various areas because media has decentralized.
01:17:31.000 When there were three TV channels, 20 million people are watching one episode of the same show.
01:17:38.000 Everybody recognizes you everywhere you go.
01:17:41.000 But now it's a big deal when Fox News is getting 100,000 viewers in the key demo.
01:17:48.000 That's it.
01:17:49.000 100,000.
01:17:51.000 Well, we can't mint stars at large.
01:17:53.000 Even athletics, like you brought up, that's somewhere we just can't mint stars anymore.
01:17:56.000 I mean, this has been the big problem for the major sports leagues and the soccer world broadly.
01:18:01.000 Like, for example, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, these are household names.
01:18:05.000 Everyone, you know, superstars, they can't, you know, walk down a street without getting mobbed.
01:18:10.000 Now, the greatest player in the world is like, you know, Killian Mbappe.
01:18:13.000 Nothing comes to mind.
01:18:14.000 He doesn't really have that gravitas or aura like those guys did.
01:18:17.000 Same problem.
01:18:18.000 The NBA can't mint a new LeBron.
01:18:20.000 The NFL can't mint a new Tom Brady.
01:18:22.000 Like, there's stars that came about because they were a monoculture era.
01:18:26.000 They were going on, you know, the Tonight Show.
01:18:29.000 They were going on, you know, the Good Morning America or whatever.
01:18:32.000 And it was a huge deal.
01:18:34.000 Where now these new stars are coming through and they just don't have like the aura or gravitas.
01:18:38.000 And yeah, part of that's monoculture was able to amplify their fame.
01:18:42.000 But secondarily, people have too much access to these guys now, where it's like now you can go to their Instagram and see what they're up to in their Twitter and they feel a lot more approachable.
01:18:48.000 They feel a lot more like real people.
01:18:50.000 When what made Tom Brady, Tom Brady, is that he had this just kind of like, I wonder what's going on.
01:18:55.000 Like he's just in his own world.
01:18:57.000 Now that Tom Brady is in this era, people think he's like cringe now because he's like everywhere.
01:19:01.000 And it's like part of what made you so.
01:19:04.000 You know, that had that allure to you is that you were kind of felt unapproachable.
01:19:08.000 Like you really were this just unbelievable superstar.
01:19:12.000 And some people could make an argument that's a good thing.
01:19:15.000 But what I'm just trying to get at is like these sports leagues can't come up with a new LeBron.
01:19:19.000 Like, okay, who's the best player?
01:19:20.000 What?
01:19:21.000 Gwen Benyama?
01:19:22.000 It's like that.
01:19:22.000 He just doesn't have the aura like LeBron does.
01:19:25.000 By the time LeBron was 25, he was already, you know, a household name.
01:19:29.000 And every kid had a poster on his wall of LeBron.
01:19:31.000 Does this guy have the same kind of talent that LeBron had, though?
01:19:35.000 Yeah, Wimbenyama is like a just generational.
01:19:38.000 I think he would be the most even one to one swap because Messi was special.
01:19:42.000 People consider him the consensus goat.
01:19:44.000 Where Mbappe, it's like, well, that's always going to be tough to chase.
01:19:47.000 But yeah, Wimbenyama's, I mean, obviously LeBron had a 20 something year career, but Wimbenyama has that skill set of like, this should be a guy.
01:19:55.000 And he's like a freak of nature.
01:19:56.000 He's like seven foot three, but dribbles like a point guard and can shoot threes.
01:19:59.000 So it's like, this is like an exceptional talent that if he existed 20 years ago, you know, would have been everywhere.
01:20:05.000 You know, it'd be on every billboard in America and whatnot.
01:20:09.000 And so.
01:20:10.000 Some people have said, Well, yeah.
01:20:12.000 I mean, and some people are like, Oh, well, it's because he's French, they have trouble marketing him.
01:20:16.000 And I'm like, Dude, Yaming was a superstar and he couldn't speak English.
01:20:18.000 So it's like that doesn't have anything to do with it.
01:20:20.000 Micro fame.
01:20:23.000 It's actually interesting because it's kind of turning back into the way things were before TV.
01:20:27.000 You know, if you were well known in your town, that's just it.
01:20:29.000 You know, it's like the locals all knew the legend of Tate.
01:20:32.000 You know what I mean?
01:20:33.000 Then if you went to the big city, people be like, Who?
01:20:35.000 Yeah, it's like the local Dallas, Texas music scene.
01:20:37.000 Like you're famous.
01:20:38.000 Yep.
01:20:38.000 You play a lot of shows there, but like outside the state.
01:20:41.000 Well, but it sucks because we've, and Phil, you could probably speak to this with authority, is even like regional scenes as they existed don't exist anymore because it's like a rock band from Boston and a rock band from Portland, Oregon, or something are going to have broadly the same sound.
01:20:57.000 Same thing with comedians.
01:20:58.000 You know, I can't remember that we had a comedian here recently and he was, we were talking about this how like a Boston comic, nothing would land in Dallas and vice versa, where now Shane Gales can sell out a stadium basically anywhere in the country.
01:21:09.000 Yeah.
01:21:09.000 I mean, like when I was coming up in the music scene, like, Especially like in New England, like there was this whole thing that was going on that was really north the Northeast, right?
01:21:19.000 Like it was it was called the new wave of American heavy metal, and it was it was basically it was Lamb of God was from Virginia, God forbid was from New Jersey, and then everybody else was from Massachusetts, right?
01:21:32.000 Like Shadows Fall, All That Remains, Unearthed, Kill Switch Engage, The Acacia Strain, all these new bands, and we shared a similar sound, but we shared a similar sound.
01:21:42.000 And the only other place kind of in the country that had anything like that that was going on.
01:21:46.000 Was Southern California and it was similar sound, just they wore makeup, right?
01:21:51.000 Like that was obviously because it's LA, right?
01:21:53.000 So there's Bleeding Through, there was Avenge Sevenfold, there was, you know, a handful of bands.
01:21:59.000 I think As I Lay Dying probably didn't wear makeup, but they were one of the bands that was coming up.
01:22:04.000 And you wouldn't, I don't know that you'd see that now because, you know, when we were coming up late 90s, early aughts, like the internet hadn't gotten into everyone's pocket yet.
01:22:13.000 Like it existed and you could put stuff on the internet and listen to it, but there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't Spotify, there wasn't like the monoculture like we talk about.
01:22:20.000 It was like, Laying the foundation for that.
01:22:23.000 So, the sound that we had did start to filter through the rest of the country.
01:22:28.000 And it kind of, you know, for lack of a better term, it kind of took the country, at least the metal scene, by storm because everything was new metal before we got on there.
01:22:36.000 And then there was the underground.
01:22:37.000 And you see it with like country and rap, two genres that are historically like very geographically stratified, right?
01:22:43.000 I mean, like infamously East Coast, West Coast, but like there was a very distinctive sound.
01:22:47.000 And then you had like the Southern scene or whatever.
01:22:50.000 Country was the same thing.
01:22:51.000 Like artists from Texas.
01:22:53.000 An artist from Alabama, it might have been two different genres.
01:22:55.000 I mean, it was so vastly different.
01:22:58.000 And then you think of like these regional scenes that existed.
01:23:00.000 Like, I mean, when I was a kid, I was a big fan of like Midwestern emo.
01:23:03.000 And that was like, you look up all these bands, they were all from Illinois and Indiana and Michigan and whatnot.
01:23:08.000 So it's like Missouri.
01:23:09.000 Missouri.
01:23:10.000 Yeah, we've just completely lost this ability for like certain scenes to be contained.
01:23:13.000 Like Seattle, grunge just came almost purely out of Seattle.
01:23:17.000 And like, obviously, it took the country by storm.
01:23:19.000 But if you like that kind of music in what, 1991, you'd have to go up to Seattle to hear it.
01:23:24.000 I'm going to kind of just deviate and go back a little bit to the Warcraft thing.
01:23:27.000 I want to make a few points.
01:23:28.000 We have to go back.
01:23:30.000 I remember playing vanilla Warcraft and it was difficult.
01:23:34.000 It wasn't like super difficult, it was fun.
01:23:37.000 But I remember player versus player.
01:23:39.000 We called it PvP for those who don't know what that means.
01:23:41.000 I had the Field Marshal gear in PvP.
01:23:45.000 I loved Alteric Valley.
01:23:47.000 I played like crazy and I got the PvP rank Field Marshal, bought all the gear.
01:23:51.000 I was like, let's go.
01:23:52.000 It was kind of hard to get, it was very difficult.
01:23:55.000 And if you got it, you got good gear.
01:23:56.000 That was really great in the PvP setting.
01:23:59.000 Raids.
01:24:00.000 If you wanted to go on like a massive raid with 20 or 40 players, you needed friends.
01:24:05.000 You needed a guild.
01:24:06.000 That's how it was done.
01:24:07.000 We'd call friends.
01:24:09.000 We had, I think we used TeamSpeak.
01:24:11.000 I don't know.
01:24:11.000 There's Ventrilo, I think was one of them.
01:24:12.000 I can't remember.
01:24:13.000 Vent.
01:24:14.000 And I'd log on and I'd look to see who of my friends were online because if you wanted to do a dungeon, you needed people.
01:24:19.000 It was actually kind of difficult.
01:24:21.000 You had to make friends.
01:24:22.000 You'd go into, I played Alliance.
01:24:24.000 I know a lot of people, a lot of my friends like to play Horde.
01:24:27.000 I'd go to Stormwind and you put looking for group, you know, dead minds when you were a new player and you want to do the little dungeon.
01:24:35.000 And then you'd make a group of friends and you'd all talk and be like, all right, let's go do this.
01:24:40.000 I remember playing Legion.
01:24:41.000 You want to do a raid, you click the button.
01:24:43.000 And then it would be like, you're in the queue.
01:24:45.000 Next thing I knew, I was instantly transported into a dungeon fighting a dragon.
01:24:48.000 I had no idea what was going on, knew none of the people.
01:24:50.000 They're all just spamming their attacks.
01:24:53.000 And nothing was happening.
01:24:54.000 It was boring.
01:24:54.000 I was confused.
01:24:56.000 In the early days, you want to do a raid, you had to know everybody.
01:24:59.000 You're on vent.
01:25:00.000 You hear the guild leader being like, okay, guys, if you're DPS, we need you to go over here.
01:25:04.000 When the boss stomps his foot, you have to back up.
01:25:06.000 Healers won't be able to heal you.
01:25:08.000 And if too many of you die, we're going to wipe.
01:25:10.000 That was fun.
01:25:11.000 Being part of this big group on a mission.
01:25:13.000 And then they were like, nah, just click a button.
01:25:16.000 That's why I stopped playing at Legion because everything was just so damn boring.
01:25:21.000 Everything has gotten too stupid.
01:25:25.000 These companies, so I bring this up because the article says it was built for retail players.
01:25:30.000 I'm sorry, it was not built for retail players.
01:25:32.000 What does that mean?
01:25:33.000 Well, back in the day, the retail player wanted a challenge.
01:25:35.000 Back in the day, things were hard to do.
01:25:38.000 Today, they're like, no, the retail players are the people who can't think properly, who need to click a button one time to do a thing.
01:25:45.000 They have tried so hard to make everything for the lowest common denominator.
01:25:49.000 They've ripped the soul out of games and they're just stupid.
01:25:53.000 I'll give you another example.
01:25:54.000 I was a huge fan of Marvel versus Capcom 2, the greatest fighting game ever made, for those that are familiar.
01:26:00.000 The combos required you to do a series of different punches.
01:26:04.000 You press down, up, super jump, land on them, hit a bunch of buttons, then jump again, and you can air combo.
01:26:11.000 It was an amazing game.
01:26:12.000 And then I remember when I bought Marvel versus Capcom Infinite, I was like, oh, let's go.
01:26:17.000 It's 3D now, one button.
01:26:19.000 You just press one button over and over again, and it even jumped automatically for you.
01:26:23.000 And I said, I threw it away.
01:26:24.000 I don't want to play this.
01:26:25.000 This is boring.
01:26:26.000 We need to bring back difficult things.
01:26:29.000 People need to experience hardships and challenges, and I think they want it.
01:26:29.000 Yeah.
01:26:35.000 I'm hoping when they bring back World of Warcraft forever.
01:26:38.000 So I saw someone chat saying it's basically a remake.
01:26:40.000 I hope when they bring this back, it is hard.
01:26:44.000 And if you want to play the game, you need friends, and you have to look for friends, and that's part of the challenge.
01:26:49.000 And I think that we should be doing this, and I'm going to do it because I got a video game.
01:26:52.000 I was talking to my brother about it earlier.
01:26:54.000 He's like, Shouldn't we do like insert feature to make it easier?
01:26:56.000 I was like, No, make it harder.
01:26:58.000 Make the game confusing and difficult with no instruction manual.
01:27:01.000 If you want to play and figure it out, you can look it up online.
01:27:03.000 You can watch a YouTube tutorial.
01:27:05.000 That's the other thing, too.
01:27:06.000 Those online videos explaining games were community building.
01:27:10.000 And everything's become so dumbed down that people open the game and they're either bored because there's no challenge or they're too stupid to play it anyway.
01:27:18.000 The same thing happened to RuneScape, actually.
01:27:20.000 Very similar to this.
01:27:21.000 In 2007, they took away the PvP version, it was called The Wilderness.
01:27:26.000 And then everyone was like, Really pissed because, like, you can't, you know, hurt, you know, can't kill another player to get their loot or whatever anymore.
01:27:34.000 And then they replaced it with like Castle Wars or something ridiculous where you just drop in and then, like, you're just with a bunch of random people you don't know fighting a thing for no actual gain.
01:27:46.000 So they recreated RuneScape as 2007 Scape and now everyone plays that still, which is kind of like the equivalent of this.
01:27:53.000 I feel like I just totally missed out on the prime era of gaming because, like, 2007.
01:27:57.000 I would have been sick.
01:27:58.000 I was like grinding webkins pretty much.
01:28:01.000 That was my World of Warcraft, it was like webkins.
01:28:03.000 I figured you for a MapleStory kind of guy.
01:28:05.000 Nah, dude, I was just tearing it up on webkins and it was awesome.
01:28:10.000 My mom probably cost her so much money at Hallmark to buy all those stuffed dogs or whatever.
01:28:14.000 But I got to have been like the Michael Vick of webkins because they all are dead by now.
01:28:18.000 Here you go, guys.
01:28:19.000 This one's for you.
01:28:23.000 Goober cheaper. Goober cheaper.
01:28:26.000 I haven't listened to it yet, so.
01:28:30.000 1990s, please.
01:28:37.000 The buyout.
01:28:38.000 Take it.
01:28:39.000 It's waiting for you.
01:28:41.000 It says goober on his shirt.
01:28:45.000 Everybody's roller skating.
01:28:51.000 Wow, that's pretty compelling.
01:28:53.000 I told it to make a commercial for the buyout, and it said goon chamber, but it wouldn't let me do it.
01:28:59.000 It kept rejecting it under a sense, like.
01:29:01.000 Community guidelines are like, no.
01:29:03.000 So I said, All right, Goober Chamber.
01:29:05.000 And then I was like, Okay.
01:29:07.000 He says Goober on his shirt.
01:29:08.000 There you go.
01:29:08.000 The buyout.
01:29:09.000 Take it.
01:29:09.000 It's waiting for you.
01:29:10.000 It's right there.
01:29:12.000 I was listening to his name is Lewis Brinley.
01:29:15.000 He founded the Yoggs cast, which was this huge gaming YouTube channel when I was growing up.
01:29:20.000 And he was talking about how, because when they started out, they had 15 guys that were on the channel.
01:29:25.000 He was talking how they started out.
01:29:26.000 And he said it was from World of Warcraft.
01:29:28.000 They had a guild, like 100 guys in it.
01:29:30.000 And I was like, That's crazy.
01:29:31.000 Imagine having to organize 100 guys.
01:29:32.000 And then he was going on to explain, No, all 100 players were.
01:29:35.000 Playing at the same time, and they're all in the same voice channel.
01:29:38.000 I'm like, that sounds so electric to have like a hundred dudes that like half of them are just friends of friends or whatever, and everyone's on voice chat just rolling in.
01:29:46.000 Like, that sounds like the most fun experience possible because it's like every game now it's like maxed out at like four players in the lobby.
01:29:54.000 I mean, yeah, four players in the lobby that was kind of like that's kind of like, but like Warzone, Fortnite, and stuff.
01:29:59.000 Yeah, I mean, when I was playing a lot of Xbox Live, playing a lot of Halo 2 and Halo 3, like that was like the peak for me, and it's you know, it was four on four.
01:30:10.000 You could do big team battle, but Slayer was the best.
01:30:13.000 You're just playing with four people.
01:30:14.000 You get the same dudes.
01:30:16.000 Everybody knows kind of how they play, and everyone knows kind of what their role was.
01:30:21.000 And you could play all night long, get home from like, I was probably working at the mall or whatever, but get home and jump on Xbox Live and play for, you know, till five in the morning.
01:30:32.000 And it was like, it was great, you know?
01:30:34.000 This is in the odds.
01:30:35.000 Well, I was once.
01:30:36.000 Well, you.
01:30:36.000 I'll go ahead.
01:30:37.000 I'm just going to say one of the things that's ironic about all of this is.
01:30:40.000 The guy I started my venture fund with, his name's Rich Melman.
01:30:43.000 He started Electronic Arts in 1982, as in Madden.
01:30:46.000 He literally started the company.
01:30:47.000 And in 82, when he started the company, he had a theory which was people will want interactivity more than passively watching television and film.
01:30:56.000 And he was right for a long time until basically what you're saying, he's not right anymore.
01:31:02.000 Because now we've gone back from things being hard and interactive and interesting and social to a spot where you hit the button, unplug, and just go watch.
01:31:11.000 Yeah, I mean, a part of me thinks that it's the wrong people got in charge of video games.
01:31:16.000 Like they, because there was a time where video games were kind of exclusive, right?
01:31:21.000 They, like, when you would, the people that were playing video games wanted a challenge.
01:31:26.000 The people that were playing video games wanted them to be hard.
01:31:29.000 They didn't want to be able to sit down and just play through a, you know, a 15 hour campaign in a day.
01:31:35.000 They wanted the actual challenge.
01:31:37.000 And as video games became more popular and, Certain people that shouldn't have been in charge of video game studios got in charge of video game studios.
01:31:48.000 They started saying, well, these stories and these video games are actually more about stories, and we want to tell the stories that we want to tell.
01:31:57.000 And it's not supposed to be hard because people want to find out how the story concludes, they want to play the game.
01:32:04.000 So we're going to make it so that way everybody can play because if everyone can play and everyone can do well, then we'll actually open the market to more people.
01:32:13.000 And more people will feel like they can, they can, you know, enjoy our product.
01:32:17.000 But the problem is the people that really loved the product didn't want that.
01:32:21.000 So they stopped playing the games.
01:32:23.000 And the people that came in and loved playing video games because they were easy and they got the gratification of finishing it, that changed what gaming was.
01:32:34.000 And now I think you're seeing the people that started the video games when video games were more exclusive have basically moved away from video games significantly.
01:32:43.000 And it shows in the sales that the core audience was the majority, that the people that were, you know, Just wanted to play through the video game, they weren't logging on all the time with their friends.
01:32:56.000 They'd play through the video game, they wouldn't play anymore, they wouldn't be going into the store to buy the new skins or whatever.
01:33:04.000 So, they were, you know, the studios kept putting out all these different skins and stuff to try and collect money from people because they weren't getting the same kind of returns.
01:33:16.000 And you're seeing it now, like I said, like I mentioned Halo earlier.
01:33:20.000 Halo just got turned over to Activision.
01:33:23.000 That was the game in the odds, right?
01:33:26.000 Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3.
01:33:28.000 That was the, it was a cultural one, but they had a video, they had a commercial in the Super Bowl.
01:33:33.000 The rollout for Halo 3 was the biggest ever marketing for a video game.
01:33:39.000 It was huge.
01:33:39.000 And the numbers on release were absolutely massive.
01:33:43.000 And the game had staying power.
01:33:45.000 Then the studio changed, went from the original creators to another studio.
01:33:48.000 And everything they put out after that just got worse and worse and worse.
01:33:52.000 Well, a huge reason for this was consolidation.
01:33:54.000 The number of game studios when you were playing those games, when I was playing those games, they were all independent.
01:34:00.000 They were all around the world and they were five guys in a bedroom and they were really good.
01:34:04.000 At the end of the day, Electronic Arts and two or three others, I think there's only three or four major game companies left.
01:34:12.000 And almost all of those studios that you remember those names of, they're inside of one of three or four silos.
01:34:18.000 So it's the same consolidation you see in other industries.
01:34:21.000 In my opinion, it's actually what ruined unique and differentiated gaming.
01:34:25.000 There's only so many people you can go to to get a game now.
01:34:28.000 Yeah, the video game I'm talking about in question, Halo.
01:34:32.000 Once they were bought, they were created by a company called Bungie.
01:34:35.000 Once they were bought by Microsoft, the games, they transferred it over to a company called, they basically created a company called 343 Studios and everything went down from there.
01:34:44.000 Yeah.
01:34:45.000 Marathon.
01:34:46.000 Yep.
01:34:47.000 Total garbage.
01:34:48.000 Creepy.
01:34:49.000 Uncanny Valley game.
01:34:51.000 Destiny.
01:34:51.000 It was great.
01:34:52.000 Well, their story was dumb as dumb could get because they screwed it up.
01:34:56.000 It started out good though.
01:34:58.000 Well, no, no, no.
01:34:58.000 I mean, the game has always been very good, it's always been great mechanics.
01:35:02.000 Great gameplay.
01:35:03.000 PvP worked.
01:35:05.000 Even when Destiny 2 came out and they kind of changed it because shotguns were so good in Destiny 1 that they made it more like, what is it?
01:35:12.000 Scout rifle based.
01:35:13.000 Yeah.
01:35:13.000 It was still okay.
01:35:15.000 You know, it's like if you had the skills to pay the bills, you could play the game.
01:35:17.000 And I was fine with it and I had a lot of fun.
01:35:20.000 And then they were like, we're going to end Destiny, which is still one of the most popular games.
01:35:24.000 They started promoting Marathon.
01:35:26.000 The characters look like weird androgynous mannequins.
01:35:29.000 It's very Uncanny Valley.
01:35:30.000 The game bombs.
01:35:32.000 Now there's rumors they're going to do a Destiny 3.
01:35:34.000 Yeah, they're.
01:35:35.000 Although the story is still whack as whack can be.
01:35:37.000 They could fix it.
01:35:39.000 Yeah.
01:35:39.000 Bungie just released something from their heads of the studio a couple days ago saying, look, we know we blew it with Destiny.
01:35:48.000 We're not going to make Destiny go away.
01:35:49.000 And they're actually turning back on a lot of the stuff they turned on.
01:35:52.000 Well, I mean, look, money's money, right?
01:35:53.000 That's right.
01:35:55.000 And Unity was loud about it, too.
01:35:56.000 What I can't for the life of me understand is how they've been so miserable at story the whole time.
01:36:01.000 It's been like 12 years, right?
01:36:03.000 Is that how, like, since they launched Destiny 1?
01:36:06.000 And the story has just never been fixed.
01:36:09.000 It's just the wackiest of nonsense.
01:36:11.000 Yeah.
01:36:12.000 I mean, the game's fun.
01:36:13.000 The witness was supposed to be like the big bad guy at the end, and it was a little underwhelming.
01:36:17.000 And then, once you actually fought the witness at the end of the storyline, they still kind of tried to limp it on, and they needed Destiny 3 is what they need.
01:36:27.000 Well, what they needed with Destiny 2 and what people want to see is progress.
01:36:33.000 And they kept giving us calamity.
01:36:36.000 So, for those that don't know, Destiny starts with the calamity of a futuristic human race, and it's like the last city.
01:36:41.000 And you want to feel like something new is happening.
01:36:44.000 But every time I played, it was just like, oh, the humans are losing again.
01:36:48.000 Yep.
01:36:48.000 That's it.
01:36:49.000 Up, Cade Six is dead.
01:36:51.000 That was, he was like the best character, too, and they killed him off.
01:36:54.000 Like, I didn't understand that at all.
01:36:56.000 Was it Nathan Fillion who's out?
01:36:59.000 Is that why?
01:36:59.000 I'm not sure why, but the character.
01:37:01.000 They lost him as a voice actor or something.
01:37:02.000 But yeah, they brought him back, didn't they?
01:37:04.000 Yep.
01:37:04.000 They brought him back at the end.
01:37:06.000 And again, I think it was one of those things where, like, you know, the player base started to dive and they were like, we got to do something about this, so let's bring Cade back.
01:37:13.000 Jeez.
01:37:14.000 Just give us progress.
01:37:16.000 All you had to do was establish that they, like, built a new city and, like, The humans are coming back and tell us something is happening in the game.
01:37:23.000 Do something fun.
01:37:25.000 Yeah, but you know, they didn't.
01:37:27.000 Hopefully, though, you know, the reason why I'm excited for World of Warcraft Forever, as much as the whole point of us talking about this was that people desperately want to go back in time and relive their youth.
01:37:37.000 And this is what I was thinking about.
01:37:38.000 It's like you couldn't before, but now the buyout is coming.
01:37:41.000 And this is a good example of it.
01:37:43.000 But I am hoping because I think, what was it?
01:37:44.000 What was their peak?
01:37:45.000 Like 20 million players, some stupid number.
01:37:48.000 Get as many people as possible into the same place so they can stop viewing each other as others.
01:37:54.000 And some people's worldviews are too entrenched.
01:37:58.000 You're not going to get them to come back together.
01:38:00.000 But you can start here and mend those who can be mended.
01:38:04.000 And that would be a good thing.
01:38:07.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:38:08.000 Yeah.
01:38:09.000 But I don't see.
01:38:12.000 I don't know.
01:38:12.000 I mean, hopefully that they can do something with it.
01:38:15.000 Like I said, I was never a World of Warcraft player.
01:38:18.000 But if the studios start paying attention to the actual hardcore players and what they want and stop trying to.
01:38:27.000 Be something for everybody and focus on what they're good at.
01:38:30.000 I think that they could.
01:38:31.000 The question is, do they realize that that's what they need to do?
01:38:34.000 You know, if they don't actually put the effort into making something that's challenging, making something that matters to the hardcore players, the people that'll play, you know, all night long with their friends and come back the next day and the next day, if they're not focusing on that, then they're not making something that people are going to really love.
01:38:51.000 They'll make something that people like and will play, but they'll leave it behind.
01:38:55.000 People that play Destiny, play Destiny, you know, Every week they were grinding, playing the same missions, they were doing the same stuff.
01:39:02.000 People that played Halo, they played, you know, they played PvP all the time, every night for months on end and stuff.
01:39:08.000 Um, but if you only have casuals, people that play a little bit, you're not going to have that core, that base that you need.
01:39:16.000 This is the battle of all like our cultural development over the past 20 years kind of exemplifies it the casual versus the you know, the hobbyist, I guess, tourists.
01:39:26.000 And they keep trying to make the game for the casual because they're like, most people only play a little bit here and there, so we need to make sure.
01:39:33.000 The person who's playing an hour or two per week can still feel powerful, get good items, and be involved in the game.
01:39:39.000 So they end up making it horribly boring because then there's nothing to achieve.
01:39:45.000 There's no dopamine hit.
01:39:46.000 I think, you know, and guys need that dopamine hit.
01:39:48.000 Look, women can have their Love is Blind, Married at First Sight, 90 Day Fiancé, and they have like what, 20 versions of each of those shows?
01:40:00.000 Yeah.
01:40:00.000 Great.
01:40:01.000 Give us video games of varying difficulties that we can enjoy with other people.
01:40:06.000 Let the chuds be the chuds.
01:40:08.000 They like it.
01:40:10.000 They'll play.
01:40:11.000 Let the Chads be the Chads and the Stacey's be the Stacey's.
01:40:14.000 Yeah, but I'm talking about everybody's a Chad in World of Warcraft if you work hard enough.
01:40:19.000 You can be a fat, miserable misanthrope in real life, but if you grind in World of Warcraft, you can be a level 60 field marshal or what was it?
01:40:31.000 Grand.
01:40:32.000 What was the highest rank?
01:40:33.000 I don't even remember the highest rank.
01:40:35.000 I don't know.
01:40:35.000 I never.
01:40:35.000 Like I said, I never really played a lot of WoW, but let the gamers be the focus of your game.
01:40:42.000 The people that are going to be coming back.
01:40:46.000 Night after night playing all the time.
01:40:48.000 They're the people that are going to end up paying your bills.
01:40:52.000 And if you make games that you like, but also that focuses on what they want, then you'll end up with happy customers.
01:40:59.000 You know, a really good example of what we're talking about is the Wolverine game.
01:41:02.000 Yeah.
01:41:03.000 Where have you heard about this?
01:41:05.000 The Wolverine game?
01:41:06.000 It's been trending massively because there's no actual game.
01:41:09.000 I mean, sure, you can click buttons and stuff, but there's a blue line from Wolverine directly to your target so you know what to do.
01:41:15.000 And there's a couple missions that apparently are so egregiously not games, people hold their controllers up on live streams as the game effectively plays itself.
01:41:24.000 Yep.
01:41:24.000 So people are just like, just not real anymore, you know?
01:41:27.000 It feels like they took the buyout already.
01:41:29.000 Exactly.
01:41:31.000 Yeah.
01:41:32.000 There was a, I think one of the problems was there was a survey that of people that played video games, and it showed that women played a lot of video games too.
01:41:41.000 But the video games that women played were like Candy Crush on their phone.
01:41:45.000 Very different.
01:41:45.000 Very different games.
01:41:46.000 Yeah, totally different kind of thing.
01:41:47.000 So you had all these people that were saying, look, we got to make games that are attractive to ladies that girls will play and blah, blah, blah.
01:41:53.000 There's a ton of girl gamers.
01:41:55.000 Look, 50% of players are blah, blah, blah.
01:41:58.000 And you end up changing what makes the PC game and stuff.
01:42:04.000 I love this story from IGN.
01:42:06.000 This cozy dressmaking game is taking over Steam's top seller list.
01:42:12.000 My friends, you can try and shoehorn in female characters into games.
01:42:18.000 Make the female hero's journey and say women are just as tough as men.
01:42:23.000 And then be surprised when your World War I simulator battlefield game with a purple haired amputee doesn't sell all that well.
01:42:30.000 Or if you want women to play video games, make a video game where they can make pretty dresses.
01:42:35.000 Because they're going to buy it.
01:42:37.000 Welcome to Dressmaker, a cozy game about making dresses, inspired by real world dressmaking.
01:42:43.000 Meet a range of clients who need outfits for different occasions.
01:42:46.000 Take their measurements and adjust the mannequin to their exact size.
01:42:49.000 Design the dresses in your sketchbook.
01:42:51.000 Cut out each panel, pin the pieces.
01:42:54.000 It's all women wanted, bro.
01:42:55.000 Sew it all together.
01:42:56.000 Choose from a wide range of notions for haberdashery.
01:43:00.000 Haberdashery?
01:43:02.000 I'm in.
01:43:07.000 Oh, pretty strong.
01:43:11.000 Oh, my God.
01:43:15.000 This is all women ever wanted.
01:43:18.000 It's one of their top sellers, overwhelmingly positive.
01:43:21.000 The game looks incredibly well made.
01:43:22.000 I think it's fairly impressive.
01:43:24.000 And if you just want to make dresses, dude, go for it.
01:43:28.000 Don't let anybody tell you you can't.
01:43:29.000 I don't care if you're a dude or a lady.
01:43:31.000 If this is the game for you, it's the game for you.
01:43:32.000 Hey, if you want to be the purple haired amputee lady in World War I, that's fine too.
01:43:36.000 I'm just not going to play it.
01:43:38.000 I'm not going to play this game either, but it looks really well made.
01:43:40.000 And I hope the women love it.
01:43:41.000 Yeah.
01:43:41.000 I mean, look, if it's popular, that's fine.
01:43:43.000 But make games that are focused on your audience.
01:43:48.000 If there are women that want to play this game or if there are people that want to play this game, that's great.
01:43:52.000 But you don't want to add, like, you don't want to make dressmaker into, like, Armor maker and try just to try to attract like dudes.
01:44:01.000 Phil, you figured it out.
01:44:03.000 You figured it out.
01:44:05.000 We're going to make an MMO action RPG.
01:44:09.000 Action adventure RPG.
01:44:11.000 You're the blacksmith?
01:44:12.000 No.
01:44:13.000 You can be the dressed, the armor designer to make cool looking outfits from scratch.
01:44:19.000 So when the dude is playing and he's like, Yeah, I got a raid tonight.
01:44:22.000 We're getting 20 of the boys together.
01:44:24.000 We're going to go fight a dragon.
01:44:25.000 The wives are like, We're going to make your armor for you.
01:44:28.000 There you go.
01:44:28.000 And the girls are all sitting around and they're like clicking and they're like, Oh, let's put an armor plate here and here.
01:44:33.000 Oh, this one gives them plus two agility.
01:44:34.000 Yeah.
01:44:35.000 There you go.
01:44:35.000 There you go.
01:44:36.000 And then you're like, honey, can you build my armor for my raid tonight?
01:44:40.000 And she'll be like, for sure.
01:44:41.000 And then she calls the girls and they're sitting there giggling and they put little bells and whistles and haberdashery and whatnot.
01:44:46.000 Have like a berry gatherer one too.
01:44:48.000 Go and get food and bring it to the soldiers and shit.
01:44:51.000 There you go.
01:44:53.000 See, we just solved all the video games.
01:44:55.000 Female characters just bring berries to the men before they fight the dragon.
01:44:58.000 Berries and mead.
01:44:59.000 I can't wait till I'm back in Philly and my friends are all saying, look, I'm so excited you were finally on the Timcast.
01:45:04.000 What did you guys talk about?
01:45:05.000 I'm going to be like, I want to tell you, they came up with the best video game idea ever.
01:45:10.000 In like two months, this guy's going to announce the new video game they're launching.
01:45:16.000 You never know.
01:45:17.000 Getting men and women to play together.
01:45:18.000 Bringing people together.
01:45:20.000 Here's what you've got to do you've got to make a video game where women marry strangers.
01:45:26.000 I'm not kidding.
01:45:26.000 You know about Love is Blind?
01:45:28.000 Oh, yes.
01:45:28.000 Married at First Sight?
01:45:29.000 Oh, yeah.
01:45:30.000 90 Day Fiancé?
01:45:31.000 I might have watched some of them.
01:45:33.000 I won't say that too loud.
01:45:34.000 And there's like 50 versions of them.
01:45:36.000 There's like Love is Blind Australia.
01:45:39.000 Yeah, there's like a wife swap for every country in the world.
01:45:43.000 Wife swap's awesome.
01:45:44.000 The best wife swap is mine.
01:45:46.000 Which country is the best?
01:45:48.000 Oh, the best one is South Africa because they'll swap like a traditional African family with like a white family from Cape Town.
01:45:53.000 It's just like the craziest.
01:45:56.000 Like, it's like.
01:45:57.000 No hijinks there.
01:45:58.000 Are you serious in the thing?
01:45:59.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:59.000 No, they do.
01:46:00.000 It's like a bit.
01:46:00.000 They do it like they're like, okay, we're the most two like disparate ethnic groups in the country.
01:46:04.000 Let's like trade their wives.
01:46:05.000 And of course, it's like a disaster every time.
01:46:08.000 The British one's great because they're so class stratified.
01:46:10.000 So they'll swap like lower class with upper class and then like.
01:46:14.000 There was one, or I think they had an affair while they were on it and broke up the marriage.
01:46:20.000 They don't do France wife swap because they do that anyway all the time.
01:46:24.000 So it would be just really.
01:46:25.000 Well, but it's not all wife swap.
01:46:26.000 Like, you know, Love is Blind.
01:46:28.000 It's like, how does that work?
01:46:29.000 It's like two random people get married or something.
01:46:32.000 Is that what it is?
01:46:33.000 Well, I was married at first.
01:46:34.000 Oh, no.
01:46:35.000 Love is Blind.
01:46:36.000 Married at first sight.
01:46:37.000 There's all sorts of.
01:46:38.000 Wait, wait.
01:46:39.000 Love is Blind is blind people, isn't it?
01:46:40.000 Yeah, correct.
01:46:41.000 For sure.
01:46:41.000 Is it?
01:46:42.000 No, it's not.
01:46:42.000 It's like they're, I mean,.
01:46:45.000 They can't see each other before, so they have to hear the voices and be like, oh, yeah.
01:46:49.000 Oh, I thought it was like they got blind people to.
01:46:51.000 No, not that one.
01:46:52.000 I was just going to say that.
01:46:53.000 I haven't seen that one.
01:46:56.000 Oh, it's so good.
01:46:57.000 I've heard of Down for Love or something.
01:46:59.000 Well, yeah, Love on the Spectrum.
01:47:01.000 Down for Love.
01:47:01.000 Yeah, that's a real show.
01:47:02.000 Yeah.
01:47:03.000 This is the game women want, and I'm not joking.
01:47:07.000 They keep trying to make video games for women, and they're like, women make up half of gamers.
01:47:10.000 No, they're playing Candy Crush.
01:47:12.000 You make the dressmaker game, women buy it.
01:47:15.000 Make a video game where you date strangers.
01:47:19.000 Women will play it.
01:47:21.000 Or like a love on the spectrum MMORPG.
01:47:24.000 That'd be awesome.
01:47:24.000 It's like a Sims.
01:47:25.000 It's like a Sims, right?
01:47:27.000 Where it'll tell you, like, here's Janet and she's like looking for love.
01:47:31.000 And you'll get a selection of like 10 guys and you'll be like, oh, and you got to read about each guy.
01:47:36.000 And it'll be like, Rick is a surfer guy.
01:47:38.000 He's kind of aloof and he's a theater manager.
01:47:40.000 Like, I don't know about that.
01:47:41.000 And then you got like Alan is like, hey, he's a software developer.
01:47:44.000 He makes it, he's got a good salary.
01:47:45.000 It's just Tinder.
01:47:46.000 And then you pick.
01:47:48.000 And then you make them go on dates and then you can affect the dates.
01:47:51.000 So like, they'll talk.
01:47:53.000 And then, if things are going bad, you see their mood decline, you can be like, quick, get the waiter, get the waiter.
01:47:56.000 And you can have the waiter come in.
01:47:57.000 That's what The Sims was, because The Sims crushed with women.
01:48:00.000 The two games women like dominate is The Sims and Animal Crossing.
01:48:04.000 But like, you know, Animal Crossing is just because they're cute animals.
01:48:06.000 But The Sims, it's like, yeah, you're like managing and facilitating relationships.
01:48:10.000 But like, if you watch, like, and I'll use some jargon here medical terms.
01:48:16.000 If you watch a Foyd play The Sims, medical, they like turn into like domestic terrorists.
01:48:21.000 Like, they'll, I was watching, like, I was watching this, like, Instagram reel of a girl.
01:48:26.000 She's like a streamer and she was playing The Sims.
01:48:28.000 And she was like putting a bunch of them in a pool and then deleting the ladder.
01:48:32.000 And she was like, maniacally laughing.
01:48:33.000 I'm like, is this what they're up to?
01:48:35.000 Like, they're either watching murder documentaries or they're committing like micro genocides on The Sims.
01:48:40.000 I mean, that's another game.
01:48:42.000 How come there's no true crime video game?
01:48:43.000 That's what I was just thinking.
01:48:45.000 The game is, it's not a murder mystery.
01:48:48.000 It's not like you're a detective looking around looking at clues.
01:48:51.000 You're sitting on a couch with another woman, and then you just talk about what you think happened.
01:48:56.000 You know, with AI, you could have like an AI friend that you talk to.
01:49:01.000 I have a podcast called Inside Game.
01:49:03.000 My co host is this NBA super agent named Derek Brooks.
01:49:06.000 Goal in life is to one guy, one time be the guy on Dateline who's like, Yeah, I saw that.
01:49:06.000 His.
01:49:13.000 You know, he wants to be a random black guy who gets asked the question.
01:49:17.000 He's like, Literally, I want to one day be that guy on Dateline.
01:49:20.000 We did a whole episode on how we need to have him be that guy.
01:49:24.000 And so, if a crime happens, you call up so Derek can be the guy to say, I saw that that happened.
01:49:30.000 I think we could put that in a box.
01:49:32.000 Here's a question like, how come no one's made these games?
01:49:36.000 Like, okay, so in all seriousness, you've got Married at first sight video game, figure out how to gamify that, have it largely be story with various choices because women love watching this stuff.
01:49:48.000 You've also got Dateline.
01:49:51.000 How do you make a true crime?
01:49:53.000 I think that's got legs.
01:49:55.000 I'm dead serious.
01:49:56.000 I think that's got legs.
01:49:57.000 I seriously think so.
01:49:58.000 I think that's the next game I'm going to make.
01:50:00.000 I'm making this dungeon explorer, action adventure fantasy game with vampires.
01:50:03.000 What am I doing?
01:50:04.000 There's a whole market of ladies who need video games, and the studios keep being like, hey, ladies, you want to go to World War I?
01:50:10.000 And they're like, no, I want to marry a stranger.
01:50:13.000 You could literally have.
01:50:14.000 Build a dress.
01:50:15.000 Yeah, or build a dress.
01:50:16.000 90 days.
01:50:16.000 For my marriage with a stranger.
01:50:18.000 90 day fiancé, the game, there's like a tension bar.
01:50:21.000 That'd be beautiful.
01:50:21.000 I'm going to make a game where you're out.
01:50:23.000 Oh, that's a good one.
01:50:25.000 You get married, you got to make it 90 days.
01:50:27.000 Oh, that'd be tough.
01:50:28.000 With one that would fall apart every time.
01:50:31.000 And you can choose to.
01:50:33.000 I guess the question is do you play as the woman or the man, or do you add influences?
01:50:39.000 Like you can increase the temperature in the room or decrease it to see how they behave and like.
01:50:44.000 Both.
01:50:45.000 Like Oregon Trail, but instead, you like postpartum and then you go like crazy.
01:50:49.000 The Lindsey Clancy video.
01:50:51.000 She just wiped the whole lobby.
01:50:54.000 Squad wipe.
01:50:56.000 That'll be like part two and it'll be the true crime version.
01:50:59.000 Yeah.
01:50:59.000 But they were married for 90 days and then she massacred everybody.
01:51:01.000 We have Tom Clancy, they have Lindsey Clancy.
01:51:04.000 You have to get her found not guilty by reason of insanity.
01:51:07.000 The true crime game is actually a really, really good idea.
01:51:10.000 Women, they just cannot get enough of the true crime.
01:51:14.000 My girlfriend's always watching Netflix.
01:51:15.000 I like the actual.
01:51:16.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:51:17.000 Like, there are video games where you're trying to solve murder mysteries.
01:51:21.000 But I guess they got to target them towards women and make the narrative very much like hear the key details about what happened, and then you explore that story somehow.
01:51:33.000 And then I suppose the way the game would work is it has to be that the official narrative is wrong and you have to exonerate the female murderer or something.
01:51:44.000 Like she's on, oh, that's the game.
01:51:45.000 She's on trial for murder.
01:51:47.000 No combat, none.
01:51:49.000 There's just like protesters outside, and you can talk to people, you can go visit witnesses.
01:51:51.000 Actually, this sounds like a fun game.
01:51:53.000 Yeah.
01:51:54.000 And then it's like you're trying to prove that this woman who murdered her kids was mentally unwell when she did.
01:52:00.000 That's it.
01:52:01.000 Like, you know, she killed the kids, but like, you're going to get her out of jail because she deserves it.
01:52:07.000 That game is going to be.
01:52:08.000 Deserves.
01:52:09.000 It's a blockbuster.
01:52:09.000 They deserve.
01:52:11.000 I mean, we're joking, but I'm going to make this game.
01:52:13.000 I don't think we're joking.
01:52:14.000 I know you're not joking.
01:52:15.000 I've invested in a couple game studios, so let's go.
01:52:17.000 I got to ask you this before we jump to the Super Chats, though.
01:52:21.000 So, do you code yourself or do you.
01:52:26.000 I used to be a very good coder, but that's a young kid's game.
01:52:30.000 How long would it take you to write 45,000 lines of game code?
01:52:34.000 Animate 13, let's say 15 characters, and then design a level generator for procedurally generated.
01:52:43.000 How long do you think that would take?
01:52:44.000 I mean, it's.
01:52:45.000 With AI?
01:52:46.000 No, From scratch?
01:52:48.000 Yeah.
01:52:49.000 Oh, I mean, that would take like two years.
01:52:51.000 I did it in three days.
01:52:53.000 Three days?
01:52:54.000 You coded 45,000 lines in three days?
01:52:56.000 Yep.
01:52:56.000 Indeed.
01:52:57.000 I'm impressed.
01:52:59.000 I just went on Astra and I said, here's the game that I want.
01:53:03.000 And so it took, so far, I think we're probably at a combined like 35 hours of labor.
01:53:08.000 Human labor, the machine's doing God knows what it is.
01:53:10.000 Oh, that's what I mean.
01:53:11.000 I thought you said you personally wrote 45,000.
01:53:14.000 Oh, no, no, no.
01:53:15.000 I'm saying I did it with AI.
01:53:17.000 Yes, no question.
01:53:19.000 And so I was like, I'm assuming it's probably six months of work.
01:53:22.000 And then we looked it up, and it's like the estimates are that it would take between, at this point, two to four years and probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in art, design, animation, development.
01:53:32.000 And we did it all in like a week.
01:53:34.000 Yep.
01:53:35.000 Right now, I have an addiction to adding features because it's so easy.
01:53:39.000 So I have to keep stopping and kind of pulling back.
01:53:42.000 To finish the game, the game is technically done, but I had my brother come in and I'm like, you need to just polish it and figure out what I didn't do.
01:53:51.000 And so he's basically cleaning it up a little bit.
01:53:55.000 I think we're going to have this game done.
01:53:57.000 It's a procedurally generated dungeon roguelike action RPG.
01:54:02.000 You basically are just going down a building to the first floor.
01:54:05.000 And then if you solve the quests, you get an infinite dungeon mode that basically just, and then you can level up and just keep playing forever.
01:54:14.000 Whole thing's done.
01:54:14.000 I mean, the craziest thing is the art.
01:54:17.000 The way the dungeon generator works is you've got, I think the first floor you go on might be, I thought it was six.
01:54:25.000 It might be like eight rooms that connect through tunnels and then it particularly generates.
01:54:30.000 And then every level, the amount of tiles increase by 10%.
01:54:33.000 Each individual room has identifiable art to, like, this room is the conservatory and it's got, like, windows.
01:54:40.000 And then it just places them randomly.
01:54:42.000 The background art took.
01:54:44.000 10 seconds.
01:54:45.000 Literally, I typed in like each room needs background art and went, okay.
01:54:48.000 And then it was like thinking and then went, here you go.
01:54:50.000 I had it draw 1,000 different tabletop card game cards.
01:54:55.000 And that probably took 20 minutes.
01:54:57.000 Yeah.
01:54:58.000 This is insane where we are currently at with game dev stuff.
01:55:01.000 So I'm going to make this true crime game and I think it'll take a week.
01:55:04.000 I'll bet you could do it.
01:55:05.000 Yeah.
01:55:06.000 Just it's because coding is English now.
01:55:08.000 Yeah.
01:55:09.000 It's amazing.
01:55:10.000 Man.
01:55:11.000 And then great idea.
01:55:13.000 So once we're about to wrap up this game, I'm having my brother basically finish it out.
01:55:17.000 There's a few things we want to do because, you know, we want to make it as best as possible.
01:55:21.000 So we're probably going to give it another week just to make sure it's.
01:55:24.000 I mean, it's completely playable now.
01:55:26.000 I rebuilt the.
01:55:29.000 I ended up, for no reason, I rebuilt the dungeon generator because I wanted to add art to it.
01:55:35.000 I keep adding features.
01:55:35.000 And this is the problem.
01:55:36.000 And then the combat system, I totally redid just because I was like, I didn't like it, it was using decimals in damage.
01:55:43.000 And I was like, no, I'd rather just everything be solid numbers.
01:55:45.000 I was like, let's rebuild it from scratch and recalculate how we deal damage.
01:55:49.000 And.
01:55:51.000 I think what we want to do with it is we're going to release it and then we can just do updates is crazy.
01:55:57.000 If we want to roll out a new character type to play, so like in the game, there's Rogue, Sorcerer, and then there's some unlockables.
01:56:03.000 We can be like, hey, this month we're rolling out a new playable character, Elvish Archer.
01:56:08.000 Like, download.
01:56:08.000 And in order to create that character, the talent trees and everything, takes one sentence.
01:56:14.000 I say to Astra, make it.
01:56:15.000 It's done.
01:56:16.000 And then we just drop it in.
01:56:18.000 There we go.
01:56:19.000 We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chat.
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01:56:30.000 Tech Rue says, Biden is one of the Democrats responsible for Ukraine's war, closing refineries, cancellation of pipelines, draining the strategic oil reserves, supporting Iran's nuclear program, and high fuel prices.
01:56:42.000 Indeed, we are dealing with a lot of the ramifications from what happened in the Biden administration.
01:56:46.000 It is absolutely true.
01:56:48.000 That being said, I think people are generally just upset that Republicans aren't, I don't know, getting the SAVE Act passed.
01:56:54.000 There's a lot of things, right?
01:56:56.000 Akasa says, one of my best friends was just diagnosed with brain cancer.
01:57:00.000 If possible, donations to support Patrick's fight against brain cancer on GoFundMe would mean so much.
01:57:06.000 He's in for the fight of his life.
01:57:07.000 Sorry to hear it.
01:57:08.000 Best of luck.
01:57:11.000 McBeafrod, Space King Episode 5 hit 10 million views.
01:57:16.000 Space King, the board game Kickstarter, has hit $7.5 million.
01:57:19.000 Let's get it to eight.
01:57:21.000 Phil, can I get a praise be to Space King?
01:57:23.000 Praise be to Space King?
01:57:24.000 I don't know what that is.
01:57:25.000 I don't know what that is.
01:57:26.000 People love it.
01:57:27.000 Yeah.
01:57:29.000 Same old man says Tim, going into the Matrix is not going back in time.
01:57:32.000 Sending my mind soul back in time, yes.
01:57:34.000 Going in the Matrix, hell no.
01:57:35.000 In fact, the Matrix was back in time.
01:57:37.000 That was the point of the story.
01:57:38.000 They literally say that for some reason, the air that worked the best was the late 90s.
01:57:44.000 Despite it was in the far future, they sent people's minds back.
01:57:47.000 You know?
01:57:48.000 Fun Griff says the economy isn't good enough anymore.
01:57:50.000 Many gamers don't have the time or energy to game all weekend long anymore.
01:57:54.000 How many work six, seven days a week to make ends meet and want to chill for an hour a week?
01:58:00.000 You know, that's kind of the point I was making about the state of the economy.
01:58:04.000 Guys, go to a casino.
01:58:06.000 Take a look at all of the young people that somehow have money to gamble, and you're wondering why that is.
01:58:11.000 Take a look at all the people who are sitting at the craps table with like 10 grand in front of them, and you're wondering how they do it.
01:58:17.000 Go to MGM National Harbor on a weekend and ask yourself how it is that these people are playing a hand of, let's just say, three card poker at $250.
01:58:27.000 Let me do the math.
01:58:29.000 It's going to be a minimum of 50, 50, and 50.
01:58:33.000 So to play the hand with the bonuses is $200.
01:58:36.000 Four card poker is going to be like 150.
01:58:39.000 Who are these people sitting down at a table game who have thousands of dollars to burn?
01:58:45.000 The economy is in a very, very, very, very weird place.
01:58:49.000 Certainly, there are people who, you know, I'll put it this way.
01:58:53.000 I saw a taco shop in California.
01:58:55.000 It said now hiring $23 an hour to start.
01:59:00.000 You know, it's getting crazy out there.
01:59:03.000 Let's grab some more.
01:59:04.000 We got a bunch of these chats over here, super chats.
01:59:08.000 Let's grab this one.
01:59:11.000 Rachel Wilson says Tim is articulating my reason for thinking universal suffrage democracy might be the worst form of government.
01:59:11.000 Let's see.
01:59:19.000 Do you think there is such a thing as the will of the people?
01:59:22.000 If there ever was, I don't think there is any longer a common will among Americans' thoughts.
01:59:27.000 I agree.
01:59:28.000 I think the will of the people, when we had a couple million people and they were all morally homogenous, you know, American colonists, they largely agreed on most things, even though they thought they disagreed on most things.
01:59:41.000 They didn't even realize you could disagree on the Christian moral framework.
01:59:45.000 They were like, well, that's just normal.
01:59:46.000 Everyone agrees on that.
01:59:47.000 So they built a government with the basis of an underlying moral framework.
01:59:52.000 Now that we have a country with disparate moral frameworks and more than two, people largely don't agree on what these laws even mean anymore.
02:00:01.000 There it is.
02:00:01.000 It's true.
02:00:05.000 All right.
02:00:06.000 Cody Titus says Today we lost our dog, Kimber, after almost 17 years.
02:00:10.000 She was my graduation present.
02:00:12.000 My five year old daughter is having a tough time, as we all are.
02:00:15.000 Tim, can you please do your thing?
02:00:17.000 Love you, Kimber.
02:00:19.000 And you feel she's named like the gun.
02:00:23.000 Oh, yeah, like the Kimber.
02:00:26.000 Well, what I always say is you know, when you have a dog, when you have a good pet, your dog or cat, any pet, really, any animal that you really care about, these animals bring you so much joy for so little in return.
02:00:41.000 You have to ask yourself, when does the bill come due?
02:00:44.000 Because we don't get things for free, right?
02:00:47.000 So what happens is all of these years, these 17 years, you get to spend with that friend where you are made to feel good.
02:00:55.000 They love you unconditionally.
02:00:57.000 There always was a condition.
02:00:59.000 When that friend passes, all of that love that they gave you over 17 years gets released all at once, and you feel it.
02:01:07.000 And so I always describe it as it's a good pain because that sadness that you feel is the expression of all of that love that you were given over that long period of time.
02:01:18.000 So the bill comes due, as it were, but it's good.
02:01:22.000 And you know what you know?
02:01:24.000 You know what you know.
02:01:26.000 You would pay that bill.
02:01:29.000 Any day.
02:01:30.000 When you first get that pet, you know the day will come and you gladly accept the terms because it was worth it.
02:01:38.000 So rest in peace, Kimber.
02:01:41.000 I'm sorry for your loss.
02:01:43.000 The only time a man is allowed to cry is when his dog dies.
02:01:43.000 17 years.
02:01:49.000 17 years is a long time for a dog.
02:01:50.000 That's a good long life for a dog.
02:01:53.000 Immortal Legend says Did you see Andrew Schultz taking Vivek to task about his wanting to bring in more H1Bs to Ohio?
02:02:01.000 And alluding to Americans being dumb.
02:02:04.000 That was from last January.
02:02:04.000 Wow.
02:02:06.000 That clip was circulating.
02:02:07.000 Oh, really?
02:02:08.000 Yeah, it was from 26 January or 25?
02:02:10.000 25.
02:02:11.000 Wow.
02:02:11.000 But it's circulating recently because it's still very salient.
02:02:15.000 Yeah.
02:02:16.000 It also is pretty crazy to me.
02:02:17.000 Just the current state of politics in this country is, I am not convinced.
02:02:23.000 I hate to say it, but this, you know, we'll talk, maybe we'll talk about this in the uncensored portion.
02:02:26.000 I'm not convinced there's a coming back of these worldviews, especially based on the conversations I've had in Los Angeles.
02:02:34.000 The way media is going right now, it is basically like different networks are different nations at war with each other.
02:02:42.000 It's absolutely insane.
02:02:43.000 I think YouTube absolutely fits the bill.
02:02:46.000 YouTube very clearly is motivated not by money, but by ideology.
02:02:52.000 I think that's fairly obvious to most people.
02:02:55.000 Maybe this is what happens when you are the biggest game in town and you don't need to think about money.
02:03:00.000 You end up just saying, like, well, we don't care if our actions lose us money because we have too much already.
02:03:05.000 So, they're just spending money on ideology.
02:03:08.000 We'll talk about that and more in the uncensored portion of the show.
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02:05:45.000 All right, I got another video for you guys.
02:05:45.000 We hit it.
02:05:47.000 We're still waiting for everyone to get back, but I made another version.
02:05:49.000 Let's see if it worked out well.
02:05:55.000 Do you accept the terms of the buyout?
02:05:59.000 Absolutely.
02:06:05.000 1990s, please.
02:06:14.000 The buyout, take it.
02:06:16.000 We're waiting for you.
02:06:19.000 Here, I'll play it again for you, Tate.
02:06:23.000 Like stranger things.
02:06:27.000 Do you accept the terms of the buyout?
02:06:31.000 Absolutely.
02:06:32.000 I tried to make her say, you can't vote anymore, but it wouldn't let me.
02:06:36.000 Yeah.
02:06:37.000 I tried a bunch of different ways.
02:06:38.000 I wonder if you said, like, you can't vote anymore.
02:06:44.000 Tried it.
02:06:46.000 The buyout, take it.
02:06:48.000 We're waiting for you.
02:06:53.000 Dude!
02:06:54.000 I had him, I tried a bunch of different versions where she said, by taking the buyout, you agree you'll never vote again.
02:07:00.000 You agree that you won't vote.
02:07:02.000 You agree to give up your vote.
02:07:04.000 You agree to reject your ballot.
02:07:06.000 You agree to surrender suffrage.
02:07:09.000 So I just had her say, Do you accept the terms of the buyout?
02:07:11.000 And he says, Absolutely.
02:07:13.000 There you go, Phil, here.
02:07:22.000 The buyout, take it.
02:07:24.000 We're waiting for you.
02:07:27.000 Looks great to me.
02:07:28.000 Oh, crazy.
02:07:29.000 We're waiting for you.
02:07:31.000 You know, it would probably be better if I gave it two different 30 second shorts.
02:07:39.000 So if I separate it so that he walks up, I can probably make her say, if you take the buyout, you can never vote again.
02:07:47.000 And then if I split it, I can probably have him go, yes, I accept.
02:07:50.000 So it'll be a different video.
02:07:51.000 Mm hmm.
02:07:51.000 Yeah, you just got to split them up.
02:07:54.000 But yeah, let's, you know, I'm curious to ask you a bit about this documentary, right?
02:08:01.000 On the division.
02:08:02.000 Yeah.
02:08:03.000 You think it's possible that people come back together?
02:08:05.000 Well, the history of the U.S. is it's cyclic, right?
02:08:09.000 That's the one saving grace that I, that's the one thing I hang my hat on, right?
02:08:13.000 I mean, remember, there used to be political battles that ended in duels in this country.
02:08:17.000 So I think we never, I think we still allow duels.
02:08:21.000 Look, maybe that's what the answer is.
02:08:23.000 But the point is, divisions have been this bad in the past, and things have gone back to a time where there's conversation.
02:08:30.000 Now, there are structural reasons around technology why it's different this time, but the history of the country is that this goes in cycles.
02:08:38.000 And that's the one thing I'm optimistic about.
02:08:40.000 That means someone has to lose.
02:08:42.000 That's probably right.
02:08:43.000 That's probably right.
02:08:45.000 So, what happens when one side just refuses to lose?
02:08:49.000 Well, isn't that kind of where we are right now?
02:08:51.000 Yes.
02:08:53.000 I would argue that if.
02:08:55.000 That the leftist worldview precipitates the destruction of the United States.
02:08:59.000 Well, to some extent, it's always been an infiltration, right?
02:09:03.000 You feel like this was the communist plot all along to infiltrate and discredit the system.
02:09:11.000 What was the old quote by the Russian leader?
02:09:14.000 I will hang you with the.
02:09:17.000 I hope you sell me.
02:09:18.000 Exactly.
02:09:19.000 I mean, hasn't that always been what the plan has been?
02:09:23.000 I guess, you know, for the far left.
02:09:25.000 And so.
02:09:28.000 It's interesting to look at the divisions that we'd seen.
02:09:32.000 The division, I mean, the principal divisions we had, I don't think were ever the existence of the country.
02:09:38.000 The American Revolution, you could argue, was the existence of the country, it was the creation of one.
02:09:43.000 But should the British have won and maintained the United States as a colony, life would largely not have changed for most people.
02:09:55.000 It wouldn't have been the end of their way of life.
02:09:58.000 They wouldn't have destroyed, like, let's say the founding fathers did nothing.
02:10:03.000 What would the country look like today?
02:10:05.000 Might look like any one of the other Commonwealth nations.
02:10:07.000 I think the makeup of the people of this country versus the United States versus Canada is why you got their gradual faux independence versus the United States fighting for it.
02:10:17.000 But I think with the moral traditions, it would still look largely similar.
02:10:22.000 With the American Civil War, slavery was on the way out as it was.
02:10:26.000 It had already been abolished in Britain, already got rid of it in the British Empire.
02:10:31.000 And so, if the South did have slavery, it wouldn't have lasted very long.
02:10:36.000 The way of life in the United States would look relatively similar.
02:10:39.000 The underlying moral worldviews save the principal issue of slavery.
02:10:45.000 For the American Revolution, slavery was still contentious.
02:10:48.000 For the Civil War, principally contentious, but life for most people would have still stayed the same.
02:10:55.000 In fact, there are many arguments that if the United States didn't declare independence, slavery would have ended 40 years earlier because the British Empire would have ended it.
02:11:04.000 The civil rights era, Jim Crow and all that, the protests were not about the existence of the nation, but about the laws within and how certain groups of people were treated.
02:11:14.000 The United States would not cease to exist.
02:11:17.000 The interesting thing about the Civil War is as close as I think we've gotten, but the Union, the North would have been the Union, the South would have been the Confederacy, and it would have fractured the United States and would have been something different.
02:11:28.000 That's, I would argue, the conflict we're facing today, should the left win, is outsourcing our generation of wealth, all our manufacturing is already being stripped away, open borders.
02:11:45.000 You cannot have a moral discohesion and survive as a nation.
02:11:49.000 So it really does feel like the United States would break up completely beyond what it was for the Confederacy should the left continually pursue what they're doing.
02:11:59.000 I mean, California does not feel like the rest of the United States.
02:12:03.000 They have unfettered illegal immigration.
02:12:05.000 They give free health care to illegal immigrants at the expense of others.
02:12:11.000 Let me just put it this way we were in Hollywood.
02:12:13.000 Naked homeless women lying on the streets.
02:12:16.000 Children are supposed to come here as a tourist attraction.
02:12:19.000 You can smell them.
02:12:20.000 Homeless people were attacking people.
02:12:22.000 It was absolutely fucking insane.
02:12:26.000 If the left succeeds, then this country is breaking apart.
02:12:31.000 So, by the way, my house in California is in West Hollywood, right around the corner from where you're talking about.
02:12:36.000 I know the smell.
02:12:37.000 Oh, yeah.
02:12:37.000 And so, you've seen the people.
02:12:39.000 Yes, yes.
02:12:39.000 But you made reference that you were there last week.
02:12:41.000 Can you tell me more about what you were doing there last week?
02:12:43.000 Because I can comment a lot on what's going on in Hollywood and some crazy stuff.
02:12:49.000 It was a meeting with industry professionals as well as interviews.
02:12:52.000 So, We had a few West Coast interviews that we had lined up.
02:12:56.000 Some people we already knew, some people we couldn't get unless we went to the West Coast.
02:13:00.000 And we have to go back again.
02:13:01.000 But I don't want to.
02:13:03.000 Big names, big names.
02:13:04.000 Okay.
02:13:06.000 What I find really cool is that there are high profile personalities in Hollywood media that are fans of the show, fans of mine.
02:13:15.000 And they were just like, hey, we're going to do a show where we talk about culture, no politics.
02:13:19.000 So we can talk about cultural stuff, no politics.
02:13:21.000 We don't talk about politicians, elections, or anything like that.
02:13:23.000 It's crazy.
02:13:23.000 And I'm like, let's go.
02:13:25.000 And so we very rarely get West Coast people because who wants to fly to the East Coast?
02:13:29.000 If we go there, we could do these one on one interviews.
02:13:31.000 And then the other thing was just meeting with industry people, networking, finding opportunities.
02:13:37.000 We have a lot of music that we've never done anything with.
02:13:40.000 So I was basically like, let's get this in the hands of the right people.
02:13:43.000 And then also, just what's the future going to hold for media and what are these companies looking for?
02:13:49.000 What I can say that I learned is that all the big networks are shitting in their own mouths, have no idea what the fuck is going on, and are panicking, dumping money on shit that doesn't make sense.
02:13:58.000 I don't want to say too much because I don't want to blow people up, but let me just say the networks are having a crisis over podcasting.
02:14:07.000 Viewership is down across the board.
02:14:09.000 They're stagnating.
02:14:11.000 They don't know how to get in the podcasting space and they don't know what podcasts are good or why they're good.
02:14:17.000 So they're setting money on fire and they're pissed.
02:14:21.000 That's the gist of why we're out there.
02:14:23.000 They're like, you have one of the biggest podcasts.
02:14:26.000 Tell us what's going on.
02:14:27.000 And so hopefully this is good news.
02:14:30.000 But it was great.
02:14:32.000 I'll tell you a funny story.
02:14:33.000 I stayed at the Hotel Roosevelt.
02:14:34.000 You ever been there?
02:14:34.000 I know it very well.
02:14:35.000 You know, it's haunted?
02:14:37.000 Oh, yes.
02:14:37.000 I know the stories.
02:14:38.000 Okay.
02:14:39.000 Well, I didn't.
02:14:40.000 And so, we have a room, and the bathtub's crazy.
02:14:44.000 The bathtub was like four feet tall.
02:14:46.000 I don't know if you've ever seen this.
02:14:47.000 I don't know.
02:14:48.000 Just the room I was in.
02:14:49.000 It was awesome.
02:14:50.000 Took like a half an hour to fill up, but it was like having a swimming pool.
02:14:53.000 It wasn't super big, like wide, but it was like a square and it was really tall.
02:14:56.000 I was like, this is great.
02:14:57.000 It's like being in Resident Evil.
02:14:59.000 So it was like 11 30 or so, and I heard children playing in the hallways while I was.
02:15:05.000 Enjoying this bath because the bath, I guess, is up against the wall.
02:15:10.000 And I was actually thinking, like, what the fuck, man?
02:15:14.000 Like, who the fuck has their kids running around the halls by themselves at 11 30.
02:15:17.000 I'm not joking.
02:15:18.000 This is literally what happened.
02:15:21.000 And so, for I don't know, 10 or so minutes, I heard these children giggling and playing.
02:15:28.000 I did think it was strange because I stayed at a lot of hotels, you know, kids don't usually run around at night.
02:15:35.000 The next day, we were, it was like 8 or 9 p.m.
02:15:41.000 And we were grabbing a drink in the lab before going to bed.
02:15:43.000 And one of the guys who does product, one of our managers, he's like, Do you think this place is haunted?
02:15:48.000 I was like, I imagine it'd have to be.
02:15:50.000 And do you know what one of the ghost stories, most notorious ghost stories are for the Hotel Roosevelt?
02:15:57.000 Children playing in the halls in the middle of night when no one has any kids.
02:16:01.000 And people have reported seeing children playing in the halls.
02:16:04.000 And then when they say, when they complain, like, there's kids up there, they're like, Sir, there's no children up there.
02:16:09.000 Like, no one has checked in with kids.
02:16:11.000 And I'm like, Someone probably just had kids, but it is kind of weird that 11 30, and this is Pacific time, by the way.
02:16:18.000 Yes, 11 30.
02:16:20.000 I thought it was weird.
02:16:20.000 And then I was reading the stories, and it was like people report hearing children playing in the halls and running around.
02:16:25.000 And then I was like, what the fuck?
02:16:28.000 That's crazy.
02:16:29.000 Pretty weird.
02:16:30.000 Yeah.
02:16:31.000 Pretty weird.
02:16:32.000 It's a beautiful building.
02:16:33.000 Yeah, I thought it was great.
02:16:33.000 I know.
02:16:35.000 But yeah, it was very, I don't know.
02:16:39.000 I still think in all reality, it was probably just some kids up late, but they sounded like they were seven or eight.
02:16:45.000 And so I'm just thinking, like, how the fuck are there seven or eight year olds at 11 30 outside of their hotel running around the halls up and down?
02:16:51.000 But I didn't really care.
02:16:52.000 So I didn't go out and check.
02:16:53.000 I'm not going to be like, oh, those kids, you know?
02:16:56.000 So I just didn't really think anything of it.
02:16:57.000 And then I heard that it was people report seeing these children.
02:17:01.000 And then, you know, that's apparently the ghost story.
02:17:03.000 And there's a guy who plays the trumpet, I guess.
02:17:06.000 People hear trumpet playing late at night.
02:17:08.000 And I'm like, does some hotel staff are just going like the fire exit and play the trumpet so that people report it?
02:17:12.000 You know?
02:17:12.000 Yeah.
02:17:13.000 It's like The Shining.
02:17:14.000 Yeah.
02:17:15.000 Oh, God.
02:17:15.000 It is.
02:17:16.000 Yeah.
02:17:17.000 But, yeah, anyway, that's it.
02:17:19.000 You know, the smell's bad.
02:17:22.000 But, Cal, look, there's a couple things that happened recently, though, that give me some hope that people are starting to wake up.
02:17:28.000 The wildfires were, my house was right in the zone of that.
02:17:32.000 And obviously, a lot of people's places went away, like Spencer Pratt, who ran.
02:17:38.000 Well, here's a question for you, though.
02:17:39.000 Because one of the things, we drove briefly down, accidentally down the PCH.
02:17:43.000 I used to live in LA for a couple of years.
02:17:45.000 And then I was like, should we just drive up and take a look at what happened?
02:17:48.000 And when I looked at the map, It's just the Palisades in this one spot where all the houses are gone, and then next to it, the houses are fine.
02:17:55.000 That doesn't seem like an accident.
02:17:57.000 Well, you go down Malibu, and that's where you make the drive down Malibu, and that's the one that's even more screwed up.
02:18:03.000 But yes, the thing in Palisades is remarkably contained.
02:18:07.000 But up and down, it's the Palisades.
02:18:07.000 Yep.
02:18:11.000 It makes no sense, too, because all of the houses that burn down in Malibu are on the side with the water.
02:18:18.000 That's the part that I don't understand as you drive down that road.
02:18:21.000 The houses that are left are the ones that are on the mountain, and the ones that are gone are all in the water.
02:18:28.000 It's remarkably contained, is one way to describe it.
02:18:32.000 Yes.
02:18:32.000 So you can see it's like all of this is fine, and then it's just remarkably contained.
02:18:41.000 Yeah.
02:18:42.000 It just hit all these houses, and I'm just like, that's crazy.
02:18:46.000 Yeah.
02:18:46.000 No, it's.
02:18:48.000 Then there was another one that happened just recently right by my house.
02:18:51.000 I'm in West Hollywood.
02:18:53.000 They had a water main break.
02:18:54.000 It was a national news story because it flooded a whole bunch of businesses.
02:18:58.000 And this is what we found out from our great local government in West Hollywood.
02:19:02.000 The reason the flooding got so bad was it happened at three o'clock in the morning, and there was no one to turn the water off until they came into the office.
02:19:12.000 And that's the kind of stuff that actually wakes up local constituencies.
02:19:16.000 When you hear about government incompetence of that kind, people start waking up and going, You're supposed to protect me.
02:19:23.000 My house is not supposed to burn down, and my business is not supposed to flood.
02:19:27.000 It's crazy.
02:19:29.000 We ended up actually getting food just around here somewhere.
02:19:32.000 We were like, Nah, we didn't go up.
02:19:36.000 But yeah, that's all the stuff that's wiped out, huh?
02:19:39.000 So yeah, you can see it.
02:19:39.000 Wow.
02:19:41.000 You can see the brown.
02:19:43.000 Oh, Jesus.
02:19:44.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
02:19:46.000 Look how green and lush this golf course is.
02:19:49.000 Yep.
02:19:50.000 Water the golf course pile and get the water to the houses that need it.
02:19:55.000 Yeah, but I don't know, man.
02:20:00.000 I'm not confident.
02:20:01.000 I don't see a reality where anyone on the right, regular people, accept child sex changes.
02:20:07.000 Like, I've had a bunch of conversations about this recently, especially having gone to Santa Monica and Venice and just everybody's coming up to me and they're fist bumping me.
02:20:15.000 I'm getting pictures of people.
02:20:16.000 It was pretty wild because I don't spend a lot of time going out to dense urban populations, you know, and don't see the people like who watch the show.
02:20:22.000 And so I appreciate you guys.
02:20:23.000 It means a lot to me.
02:20:25.000 But seeing that, I'm like, how could this be that the government is what it is if most people are pissed off of the same things we're pissed off about?
02:20:35.000 There's a store right across from the skate park selling Trump gear.
02:20:38.000 It's on the boardwalk with Trump hats.
02:20:40.000 And I'm like, I don't think that what they're telling us on the internet is real.
02:20:44.000 So I wonder also regular people don't agree with child sex changes, but there's a cult.
02:20:49.000 There are people who live in that reality and believe it.
02:20:53.000 And it's the lesbian COVID bar people.
02:20:58.000 We have to excise these people from society, we have to cancel them.
02:21:02.000 We have to say if you are the wacko lesbian mask wearing person accusing the bar of genocide, You're blocked.
02:21:11.000 Okay.
02:21:11.000 We're not hiring you.
02:21:13.000 The free press wrote this article about all these different lesbian and queer bars that had the same thing happen.
02:21:18.000 My favorite was where a gay bar opened and the staff and the customers accused the owner of being a white supremacist.
02:21:26.000 And they demanded the owners, who are lesbians, I guess, of handing over the business to the staff and then sold the building.
02:21:37.000 That's fucking insane.
02:21:38.000 Well, look, my wife ran for the school board back home.
02:21:41.000 It's part of what the film's about.
02:21:42.000 That I'm in Bucks County, USA.
02:21:45.000 My wife's an Indian girl from Alabama, and they ruthlessly called her the white Christian nationalist.
02:21:54.000 When we ran school board candidates all across the country in Allentown, which is as in the song Billy Joel song, literally that town, we ran a gay guy because he wanted to keep the schools open.
02:22:06.000 We're focused on keeping the schools open.
02:22:08.000 We ran a gay guy who was married with two kids.
02:22:11.000 He would knock on doors in his own neighborhood.
02:22:14.000 And they would say, You're not welcome in my house because you're the anti gay bigot on the ticket.
02:22:19.000 They would say it to his face as he knocked on the doors.
02:22:23.000 And that's when you realize how pernicious the media takeover is to basically create this narrative.
02:22:29.000 So I had him, one time he called me up.
02:22:30.000 I said, What did you ask the woman who said that to you?
02:22:32.000 I said, Where did you read it?
02:22:34.000 I read it in patch.
02:22:36.000 So I'm literally here in front of you with a photo of my family, and you don't believe me, but you read, you believe what you read in patch?
02:22:43.000 Yep.
02:22:44.000 That's how screwed up discourse is now.
02:22:46.000 People are so narrative driven, man.
02:22:50.000 People are so narrative driven that, like, you can show them evidence that proves whatever they believe wrong, but it doesn't matter.
02:22:58.000 They have a narrative that they have internalized or whatever you want to call it.
02:23:03.000 And that's what they're going to use as their plan for life, their directive.
02:23:09.000 Michael Malice is one of the people that talks about it a lot.
02:23:14.000 You can show people evidence.
02:23:15.000 It doesn't convince them, it makes them double down.
02:23:17.000 There's actually been studies on that.
02:23:19.000 If you have people that have a strongly held belief and you show them actual evidence that proves it wrong, they'll double down on it.
02:23:26.000 That's exactly right.
02:23:27.000 Yeah, those people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
02:23:29.000 No.
02:23:30.000 They shouldn't at all.
02:23:33.000 Let's bring in some callers and we'll start with Randy, the chicken captain.
02:23:39.000 What's up, Randy?
02:23:39.000 What's going on?
02:23:40.000 What's up, dude?
02:23:42.000 Oh, yeah.
02:23:44.000 Let's go.
02:23:45.000 What's up, man?
02:23:49.000 I appreciate you guys bringing me on.
02:23:51.000 I'll get right into it.
02:23:55.000 My question is for our guest tonight.
02:23:57.000 So I've seen that you did a lot of.
02:24:01.000 You know, funding for startup businesses, and you seem to really support it.
02:24:07.000 You know, there's the bigger question that I think is at the end of the day, you see big business really put a lot of roadblocks in there for small businesses and small startups.
02:24:20.000 What realistic kinds of policies would you like to see enacted in order to help lift up the small businesses that really support the economy?
02:24:32.000 So, I think government in general is too slow at ever doing what it is you hope that you're asking for in this question.
02:24:40.000 And anytime the government shows up to try and create these policies, they usually make things worse.
02:24:45.000 So, what I tell my startup, when it's three guys in a bedroom, four gals who start company, whatever it is, what I say is look for an incumbent business that is so fat, dumb, and lazy that your startup being five people is your advantage.
02:25:00.000 Because if you're going to wait for the government to even out the field, you're going to wait too long and they're going to screw it up.
02:25:05.000 So, find a sleepy, dumb incumbent and go disrupt them.
02:25:09.000 And the best businesses I've ever invested in are ones where that was the formula.
02:25:15.000 But what do we do to stop the big guys from putting in those, using government as a cudgel against small businesses to put roadblocks in so that new businesses can't start up, pulling the ladder up after them, so to speak?
02:25:31.000 Oh, there's no question.
02:25:32.000 Crony capitalism is alive and well in the country.
02:25:35.000 And the built in monopoly that happens by the incumbents to keep the next people out happens time and time again.
02:25:43.000 I just personally don't see ways that the government can legislate that away.
02:25:49.000 Like when they went after Microsoft, for example, famously in 99 for antitrust, that created more problems than it solved.
02:25:56.000 When they saw the tech bubble burst in 99 and Pastor Baines Ockley in 2002, that screwed up the IPO market for a decade.
02:26:03.000 So I am just very skeptical that government is the answer to the problem you're saying.
02:26:08.000 I'm not disagreeing with you at all that it's an unfair playing ground and the big boys try and keep all the money to themselves.
02:26:16.000 No question about that.
02:26:18.000 It's just that the government, every time I've seen them try and fix it, has made it worse.
02:26:26.000 You there, caller?
02:26:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:26:28.000 No, no, I think that's, you know, government doesn't always have the best results on it, but, you know, sometimes we rely on them for protections of rights and stuff like that.
02:26:40.000 So, It's more of this.
02:26:42.000 I would rather them actually do what you said and not get involved.
02:26:46.000 It seems like exactly what you say the crony capitalism comes from government, where you have the lobbyists go in there and lobby for what it is that they want that then screws things up.
02:27:00.000 Here in Texas, we have the sugar cartel kind of thing going on with Imperial Sugar, where we put a tariff on sugar imports so we can make sugar land more profitable and stuff like that.
02:27:13.000 So I honestly think government getting involved has been the problem.
02:27:18.000 But it's really the question is, how do we stop that from happening?
02:27:23.000 Look, that one's above my pay grade, sir.
02:27:26.000 I mean, the only way you can.
02:27:30.000 The only way I think you can stop that is take the power away from government to be able to influence, right?
02:27:35.000 You know?
02:27:36.000 But I don't know.
02:27:37.000 Phil, 2028.
02:27:39.000 Don't you do it.
02:27:41.000 I have said over and over and over, I will say the N word on Maine if anyone tries to get me to get into politics.
02:27:48.000 It's not going to happen.
02:27:50.000 But seriously, as much as.
02:27:52.000 As much as people are concerned about government collusion or corporatism or whatever, the answer isn't affecting the market.
02:28:02.000 The answer is affecting the government.
02:28:04.000 And that's proving harder and harder to do because of the way that our government behaves, the way our government works.
02:28:14.000 You know?
02:28:18.000 Hello?
02:28:19.000 I appreciate it.
02:28:20.000 Okay.
02:28:21.000 You got anything you want to add or any thoughts or anything you want to shout out?
02:28:25.000 We'll just do the shout out.
02:28:28.000 I want to encourage everybody to come to the After Dark show on the Timcast Discord.
02:28:32.000 We have a lot of fun up there for a couple hours after the show.
02:28:35.000 So, everybody, please come and join that.
02:28:37.000 And then, last thing, I'd just like to shout out my brand new wife.
02:28:40.000 We just got married just under three weeks ago, and we're happy.
02:28:44.000 Congratulations.
02:28:45.000 Now, make babies.
02:28:47.000 Right.
02:28:47.000 Working on it.
02:28:48.000 Working on it.
02:28:51.000 All right.
02:28:52.000 Thanks for calling in.
02:28:53.000 Thank you.
02:28:55.000 All right.
02:28:56.000 Next up, let's grab.
02:28:58.000 Tiny Tree Hands.
02:28:58.000 What's up, Tiny?
02:29:00.000 How are you doing, dude?
02:29:01.000 What's up?
02:29:02.000 What's up, man?
02:29:03.000 How are you this evening?
02:29:04.000 What's going on?
02:29:05.000 Pretty good.
02:29:06.000 Excellent.
02:29:07.000 All right.
02:29:07.000 Excellent.
02:29:08.000 So, my question is recently, ICE conducted immigration enforcement actions in Frederick, Maryland, where local law enforcement stood by as protesters fought with ICE in an effort to prevent a search warrant.
02:29:21.000 Frederick Mayor O'Connor is on record as saying that he'd used taxpayer money to support nonprofits to resist immigration enforcement actions.
02:29:29.000 At which point should Trump begin enforcement actions against these politicians and have a follow up to that?
02:29:36.000 I mean, I don't know what the.
02:29:39.000 I don't know if that is politically feasible now, right?
02:29:44.000 I mean, he spent a lot of political capital in the early part of the year when he went to Minneapolis.
02:29:52.000 And, you know, there was some significantly bad press that came out of it.
02:29:58.000 And I think that going into the midterms.
02:30:03.000 It would be a terrible, terrible thing for him to do to try and use the federal government just because.
02:30:12.000 Well, I mean, actually, now that I think about it, like they're dead in the midterms anyway, so maybe now.
02:30:17.000 But I mean, I just don't think that he has the political capital to get away with it.
02:30:25.000 Agreed.
02:30:28.000 And then the follow up to that question is Is there any angle that I'm missing in which he's pro set?
02:30:28.000 All right.
02:30:35.000 Protests are actually beneficial to Trump.
02:30:37.000 So, is allowing this to continue actually something that could be spun as being beneficial going into the midterms?
02:30:45.000 I don't think so.
02:30:46.000 I think the things that Trump is, the things that people are pissed off at Trump about, you're not going to see any kind of relenting on that unless gas drops to two bucks a gallon and, you know, people's wages increase, you know, 30% in the next month.
02:31:07.000 You know, I honestly, I don't even think that if gas dropped, right?
02:31:10.000 Like if tomorrow Iran signed a deal and gas, you know, went through the floor and, and, You know, the cost of fuel was down to three bucks.
02:31:18.000 I'm not even sure that could save him.
02:31:21.000 So, yeah.
02:31:23.000 The protests, I mean, I remember like the No Kings and all that and the ice protests in the winter didn't really have an impact on the polls at all.
02:31:23.000 Yeah.
02:31:33.000 I remember actually the New York Times or no, it was Washington Post drew the opposite conclusion was that the protests, actually, most Americans didn't even realize what was going on.
02:31:42.000 I think they had, they asked for like name recognition of like Greg Bavino and it was like, 5% or something, like an absurdly small proportion of the population.
02:31:50.000 But he was kind of the central figure of the protests in the winter.
02:31:55.000 The real reason to be pro, the real reason to be for getting rid of people that are here illegally, getting them to go back to their respective countries is because the downstream effects are going to be good for Americans.
02:32:11.000 It's not something that Americans are going to realize.
02:32:17.000 They're not going to be like, oh man, my life's so much better because there aren't so many illegals here.
02:32:24.000 The way they're going to notice is that jobs are going to become easier to get, cost of renting homes and stuff, renting apartments, cost of housing goes down.
02:32:34.000 And those things take time to materialize.
02:32:38.000 Probably a year or two before you'd see real significant impacts on the market.
02:32:45.000 I mean, right now, Part of the problem with housing costs is the cost of borrowing money, right?
02:32:54.000 I think a home mortgage is over 7% now, which is historically not crazy high, but in recent history, it's very high because you had 0%.
02:33:02.000 You could get a house at 3% or whatever for most of the teens.
02:33:07.000 And that's not going to be the case again anytime soon.
02:33:11.000 In fact, it's likely that the cost of borrowing money is going to be fairly high for the next.
02:33:17.000 Probably five to 10 years until, if not longer, because the debt is getting so high.
02:33:26.000 So, by the way, real quick, the thing that's really screwed up right now, and we have a lot of exposure to real estate companies in our portfolio.
02:33:33.000 So, rates are at the two year high, but the prices keep going up.
02:33:38.000 Yeah.
02:33:38.000 This is the part that's really scary to me from an economic standpoint.
02:33:43.000 This is not supposed to be happening.
02:33:45.000 Those two things are not supposed to move up in the direction that they are.
02:33:48.000 So, there's some fundamental demographic shift or purchasing behavior change that seems to be structural and permanent because as those rates go up, the house prices are supposed to go down.
02:33:59.000 And they've not only been persistently high, they keep going higher, which is very difficult to square.
02:34:04.000 Yeah.
02:34:05.000 Do you think that that's because people that own homes look at it as because there are so many people that own homes and that's the biggest investment they have?
02:34:14.000 And so they refuse to lower their price because they can't lose that money?
02:34:19.000 I think that's part of it.
02:34:20.000 But I also think at some point, you know, you got taught of the magic of compound interest.
02:34:24.000 At some point, if you didn't own something early enough, you got left out because you didn't have the compounding interest.
02:34:31.000 And I think we're just at that part of the cycle now where if you got left behind, you really got left behind now.
02:34:36.000 Yeah.
02:34:37.000 Yeah.
02:34:38.000 So, yeah, I don't know.
02:34:42.000 I don't know that there's an immediate fix.
02:34:46.000 So, I mean, things right now, it's really tough to not at least acknowledge the situation that we're in.
02:34:55.000 And it's looking real bad for the Republicans.
02:34:58.000 So, you got anything you want to add, Tiny?
02:35:03.000 No, man.
02:35:04.000 Appreciate the conversation, guys.
02:35:06.000 Just a shout out real quick.
02:35:07.000 Actually, a couple shout outs real quick.
02:35:10.000 First and foremost, if you could go and follow my young man's band, it's Midnight SUN Official on instagram and uh, it's spelled mid n underscore, I g h t SUN Official.
02:35:29.000 Uh, they had their first paying gig this sunday at 3 p.m.
02:35:34.000 Chocolate Park Tavern, Cascade Maryland.
02:35:37.000 It's right outside of historic Fort Richie Maryland, i'm sorry.
02:35:41.000 Uh yes correct, Fort Richie Maryland.
02:35:44.000 And uh, It's actually right inside the bowl of the hollowed out mountains that the government exists in.
02:35:50.000 The second shout out October 3rd, Who They Fear and Dead Eyes Maryland are going to be playing at Rockwell Brewery in Frederick, Maryland.
02:35:59.000 That's October 3rd.
02:36:00.000 You can get your tickets $20 now, go up to $30 this weekend.
02:36:05.000 So check them out.
02:36:06.000 Did you say Dead Eyes?
02:36:07.000 They opened up for Phil.
02:36:08.000 Yeah, Dead Eyes and Who They Fear are both playing in Frederick, Maryland October 3rd at the Rockwell Brewery.
02:36:15.000 They were just on, Dead Eyes was just opening for us on, uh, On the tour that we just did up in May.
02:36:20.000 Those are really good dudes.
02:36:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:36:23.000 And Who They Fear, also, man.
02:36:25.000 They open for you guys also in Baltimore.
02:36:27.000 Oh, okay.
02:36:28.000 Both of them are Maryland based bands.
02:36:29.000 Who They Fear is out of Frederick, and Dead Eyes is out of Baltimore, out of Maryland.
02:36:34.000 But both of them, like I said, October 3rd, Rockwell Brewery.
02:36:37.000 Tickets are $20 now, $30 after this weekend.
02:36:42.000 Come check them out.
02:36:43.000 There'll also be youngsters playing out of the stable that my young man plays out of.
02:36:48.000 Let there be Rock School with Frederick.
02:36:50.000 That'll be opening for him.
02:36:52.000 Sick, man.
02:36:52.000 So.
02:36:54.000 All right, guys.
02:36:55.000 Have a great night.
02:36:55.000 Appreciate it.
02:36:56.000 Thanks for joining.
02:36:57.000 See you.
02:36:59.000 So, I just prototyped out the video game.
02:37:03.000 I'm sorry, mapping out how the game works.
02:37:05.000 You play a 36 year old woman.
02:37:06.000 She's a fan of true crime podcasts.
02:37:08.000 Oh, I can't wait.
02:37:09.000 There's a man on death row, but after listening to this podcast, she's convinced he's innocent.
02:37:15.000 So, you start with searching a fiction.
02:37:17.000 There's a fictional internet that you can use in game.
02:37:20.000 And the solution to creating it would be that it actually uses real search with filters so you can't get porn or any weird shit.
02:37:26.000 But the key things you need to search for are hidden in this hybrid internet.
02:37:31.000 So if you pull up the browser and search, you'll get real websites from the real world.
02:37:35.000 But if you search for an in game item, it will treat it like it's real, but it'll only appear in game.
02:37:41.000 And the ultimate goal of the game is you go on the internet, you read posts, you look up videos, and then you go and interview people and you travel around and then you prove the guy was innocent.
02:37:51.000 This is actually going to be it.
02:37:53.000 I love this idea.
02:37:54.000 I mean, this is going to be a good idea.
02:37:54.000 Yeah.
02:37:54.000 Yeah.
02:37:56.000 Yeah.
02:37:57.000 I actually think it would be fun to play.
02:37:59.000 And then what you do is Astra's suggestion is do multiple seasons.
02:38:03.000 Yeah.
02:38:04.000 The first game that rolls out is this one murder mystery.
02:38:07.000 And there's no danger.
02:38:08.000 It's literally just you deal with bureaucracy, you prove it, you advocate online, and then you finally get the legal documents and paperwork to get the guy, you know, emergency state of execution by introducing new evidence to his lawyers, ultimately resulting in him being exonerated and a Netflix documentary.
02:38:24.000 And you have credibility for the next season.
02:38:27.000 You get credibility for the season two.
02:38:29.000 No, I wouldn't use the same character.
02:38:31.000 I think that would be cringe.
02:38:32.000 So the next season is just another woman who's a, you know, it depends.
02:38:37.000 People might get attached to the character and they love the idea.
02:38:40.000 It kept trying to say, You're an investigative journalist.
02:38:42.000 No.
02:38:43.000 And then it was like, You're a photographer.
02:38:45.000 No.
02:38:46.000 You are an out of work 36 year old woman who is bored and listening to true crime podcasts.
02:38:54.000 That's it.
02:38:54.000 That's a great idea.
02:38:55.000 You've got a big audience for that.
02:38:57.000 Here's the thing part of the game will be sitting on a couch in your living room playing the podcast and just listening to what the person's saying.
02:39:06.000 For real, though.
02:39:06.000 So I think women will turn it on and sit back and they're basically listening to the podcast for like 20 minutes.
02:39:11.000 And going like, whoa.
02:39:12.000 And then it's like the character stands up and she's like, wait a minute.
02:39:15.000 She's right.
02:39:16.000 How could this guy have committed this murder?
02:39:19.000 And then you start looking online from the online portion.
02:39:24.000 It leads you to interviewing people and then finding new evidence.
02:39:27.000 I think you need to put some clues in your podcast so she has to listen to it too.
02:39:33.000 How about that?
02:39:34.000 The actual episodes of Tim Cast IRO.
02:39:35.000 I'm just letting you know.
02:39:36.000 That's a really good idea.
02:39:38.000 You might put some real Easter eggs in there, brother.
02:39:41.000 Well, I think what we would have to do is just make it so that.
02:39:44.000 That's actually a great idea.
02:39:45.000 What happens is she's listening to this true crime podcast, and it's like we actually make it dark.
02:39:52.000 And then she's like, But was he really the killer?
02:39:55.000 And then she's like, I need to find something about it.
02:39:57.000 When you search the internet, Tim Cast IRL episode comes up where it's like, you know, the murder and the shore, whatever it's called.
02:40:04.000 And then you click, it's a clip, a YouTube clip, and you click it.
02:40:08.000 And then we could have all of us in here, and you'll be like, There's no way he did it.
02:40:12.000 Here's what no one's talking about.
02:40:14.000 And then we pull up an article, and then she's like, Hold on a minute.
02:40:18.000 In this article that she sees from the show, and then she finds another article and there's something contradictory, and then she's like, I'm going to go interview the person.
02:40:25.000 There'll be protests.
02:40:27.000 You go and join protests outside.
02:40:28.000 That's a really good idea, having show clips in the thing.
02:40:31.000 That's one of the really good things.
02:40:32.000 Watching other podcasts.
02:40:34.000 Actually, it sounds like a great idea for a game.
02:40:36.000 It does.
02:40:36.000 It really, really does.
02:40:37.000 This is actually beyond the scope of Astra, though.
02:40:41.000 It's easy for Astra to make a game where you play a knight and you fight dragons.
02:40:46.000 Animations pre exist.
02:40:47.000 You can just load them up instantly and then it'll do all the coding.
02:40:49.000 But to make clips of Timcast IRL to make like it's got the wrong training model.
02:40:54.000 We could, the base game, it's just Unreal Engine 3D environments.
02:41:00.000 All of it already exists pre animated and built.
02:41:02.000 You buy the prefab stuff, load it all in.
02:41:05.000 That portion of the game is done.
02:41:07.000 The extra stuff, voiceover, we have to load scripts, we have to get voice actors to make the game real compelling.
02:41:15.000 We have to make a fictional true crime podcast to listen to.
02:41:19.000 You could probably, the problem with AI is that it can only do like 30 seconds at a time.
02:41:25.000 Dude, I could record audio for that, just make stuff up.
02:41:28.000 Well, we can have AI write the scripts for it.
02:41:31.000 Yeah.
02:41:31.000 And then hire a couple of women to do a reading and then have them literally just sit in the room and read the lines for two hours.
02:41:37.000 Wouldn't be too hard.
02:41:38.000 All right.
02:41:39.000 Let's grab the next callers.
02:41:42.000 And we got here Mo Farmer.
02:41:44.000 Mo Farmer, what's up, man?
02:41:46.000 What up, dude?
02:41:46.000 It's a good name.
02:41:47.000 Didn't work.
02:41:49.000 Mo Farmer.
02:41:50.000 Did it unmute now?
02:41:50.000 Let me call in.
02:41:51.000 There we go.
02:41:52.000 What's up, man?
02:41:52.000 What's going on?
02:41:55.000 So, why is Tate Brown bringing us down?
02:41:59.000 What is up with all this black pill BS?
02:42:03.000 We have everyone around acting like Eeyore.
02:42:07.000 We have wins that everyone is overlooking, but even Phil is giving up on fighting communists.
02:42:13.000 Oh, I didn't say that.
02:42:14.000 Candace Tucker, Massey, and Alex Jones crowd are being corrupted by something, especially since Charlie's death.
02:42:22.000 Why would Republican conservatives not look at the Small majorities we have, and understand we need bigger wins in the midterms for real changes done.
02:42:34.000 Look, man, I have said, you know, the entire year I've been saying, look, the Democrats, if they win, it's going to be terrible for America, right?
02:42:44.000 Like, I am, I fully believe that it is going to be an awful, awful result.
02:42:50.000 Democrats are going to do terrible damage to the United States.
02:42:54.000 But I'm just looking, you know, I'm just looking at the way people are acting and behaving and the responses that I see when I post on the internet.
02:43:03.000 And I can't BS people.
02:43:05.000 It doesn't.
02:43:06.000 It doesn't look very good for the Republicans.
02:43:08.000 Look, I hope I'm wrong, man.
02:43:09.000 I hope that the polls are wrong.
02:43:11.000 I hope that I'm wrong.
02:43:13.000 I hope that there's just a vocal, you know, minuscule but very vocal minority of people that are like, you know, I don't, I'm mad at Trump.
02:43:21.000 And I hope that a lot of people go out and vote for Republicans.
02:43:24.000 Believe me, I really do.
02:43:26.000 But it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case.
02:43:30.000 So hopefully I'm wrong.
02:43:32.000 Yeah.
02:43:32.000 Like I definitely want the Republicans to win.
02:43:36.000 I'm just in the same boat as Phil.
02:43:38.000 Additionally, I'm just trying to prescribe why we're underwater.
02:43:43.000 And I think it's largely the congressional Republicans' fault because, I mean, all of those major wins, and we could go through them, barring the big, beautiful bill fight, have been from the Trump admin directly.
02:43:56.000 I mean, they've mostly been EOs.
02:44:00.000 So, you know, it kind of goes back to this thing we've been wrestling with for 10 years when Trump's not on the ballot, Republicans underperform.
02:44:08.000 And then, what do you do if you're Republicans and you can't even necessarily depend on that Trump energy?
02:44:12.000 So, you are in a serious conundrum there.
02:44:17.000 So, yeah, what I was trying to outline on the show is just like, we have a lot of guys, and it's a lot of my friends, even are constantly like, well, look at the Trump victories.
02:44:31.000 I mean, how can we not rest on our laurels there?
02:44:33.000 And I'm like, the Iran thing really makes people mad because, I mean, You know, that was a campaign promise.
02:44:40.000 That is a large reason why Trump kind of has garnered this sort of historic following and support base.
02:44:49.000 And that was like a big line for a lot of people.
02:44:52.000 I think if the Iran thing wasn't going on, then the price of gas wouldn't be so high.
02:44:57.000 And we'd be fine.
02:44:58.000 It would be completely different.
02:45:00.000 Yeah.
02:45:01.000 2025 was fantastic.
02:45:03.000 I mean, Trump came out the gate so hot.
02:45:05.000 But even going into the beginning of 2026, I mean, the Venezuela operation, the fact that.
02:45:12.000 I mean, we had a media firestorm in Minneapolis and the public polling on deportations didn't change.
02:45:20.000 So, like, we would have been fine.
02:45:23.000 We were going to have these procedural victories in the courts with the redistricting and all of that.
02:45:30.000 We probably would have held the house.
02:45:32.000 I mean, I know it was like 50 50 in the betting markets at the time, but and the Venezuelan oil hits the market, you know, gas goes even lower.
02:45:43.000 I mean, gas was at like 280 before the war.
02:45:49.000 It's just, it is what it is.
02:45:50.000 It's very unfortunate.
02:45:52.000 But it's largely self imposed.
02:45:55.000 I mean, you could see it when you brought up the Calci chart earlier, right?
02:45:58.000 I mean, you can point to exactly where the curve, the derivative of the curve changes.
02:46:03.000 I mean, it's almost exactly right there.
02:46:05.000 And you see it really free fall around May or June, where me and most Trump supporters, again, including myself, and that were taking an initial wait and see.
02:46:18.000 And then by late April, it became obvious that the operation was a failure.
02:46:23.000 And then by May, June, it started to set in like, oh, we're not getting out of this anytime soon.
02:46:28.000 Right.
02:46:30.000 That I think is where you really start to see the polling, the betting markets all react.
02:46:37.000 Because, yeah, Iran, when it first happened, people were very upset.
02:46:41.000 But, yeah, it took about a month before we kind of saw that.
02:46:43.000 If it was over quick and you solved the problem, you would have been like, all right, pat on the back, chalk up another win.
02:46:50.000 Now you're quagmire.
02:46:52.000 Yeah, Trump bombed Iran last summer, and a lot of us were like, okay, like uncomfortable.
02:46:58.000 But you looked back at his first.
02:46:59.000 Term when he bombed Syria and was kind of an in and out operation, we're like, okay, well, we can stomach that.
02:47:04.000 Additionally, the administration was communicating, we did set back their nuclear program 50 years or whatever.
02:47:09.000 So we were like, okay, well, you know, I can live with that.
02:47:12.000 If anything, you could probably mark it down as a win.
02:47:16.000 So then, yeah, that was a major theme when the war first broke out wasn't even, wasn't so much as like, why are we going to the war with Iran?
02:47:22.000 But the question was, well, what was the, were you lying last summer when you said he decimated their nuclear program?
02:47:28.000 Like it was just very confusing.
02:47:30.000 The messaging wasn't clear.
02:47:32.000 And then, yeah, by April, the picture became clear that they were actually seeking a regime change, and then it didn't work.
02:47:38.000 So, yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to beat up on the admin or anything.
02:47:43.000 I'm just trying to sort of communicate that the reason we're staring down the barrel of a blowout here is largely self imposed.
02:47:51.000 Yes, you can attribute some of it to external factors like the black pillars who were black pilled anyway, or the Democrats, or the media.
02:48:01.000 But largely, again, if you were to look at where we were in February compared to now, My main conclusion that I have to draw, if I'm being honest, is this is largely self imposed.
02:48:13.000 Iran was a mistake.
02:48:15.000 The SAVE Act not passing at the feet of the Republicans.
02:48:18.000 I think those two factors have really demoralized Republican voters.
02:48:23.000 Yep.
02:48:23.000 Principally the war, the diesel shortages, gas prices.
02:48:27.000 Yeah.
02:48:28.000 It was like $7.
02:48:29.000 I was just in California.
02:48:31.000 You're there frequently.
02:48:32.000 So you, yeah.
02:48:33.000 Diesel shortages, diesel out here is like $6.50.
02:48:36.000 Yeah.
02:48:37.000 Well, I got a diesel truck that we use.
02:48:38.000 And even among core Republican voters who, Are going to stick by the admin through an Iran war.
02:48:46.000 The Save Act is demoralizing to the base, as in the red no matter what base.
02:48:51.000 And then, yeah, the coalition broadly and maybe one foot in, one foot out Republican voters, the Iran war is enough for them to say, okay, well, I'll give the Democrats a go.
02:49:00.000 And then you combine those two factors Save Act, you have big mega donors taking their money out of these races.
02:49:07.000 And then, Iran war, you lose your voters.
02:49:10.000 I don't even think that the.
02:49:12.000 The issue is people are going to vote Democrat.
02:49:14.000 I think everyone's just going to stay home.
02:49:16.000 Yeah, it's largely going to be good.
02:49:18.000 I don't think we're going to see a lot of people show up for the Mandani lights.
02:49:22.000 Yeah, especially because people that vote in the midterms are likely to be more politically aware and they're probably more aware of what the Democrats are offering.
02:49:32.000 And probably, if you're a Republican, you definitely don't like it.
02:49:35.000 But where you're likely to see Democrat pickups in the Senate are states that are default Democrat, like Ohio, Michigan.
02:49:43.000 So, the voters understand there that by staying home, it's likely going to keep either in the shared rounds case, let him return to the Senate, or in the case of Abdul El Said.
02:49:53.000 I think they implicitly understand that that is harming Republicans, where Republicans staying home in Texas would just be because they're staying home.
02:50:00.000 Like the default there is Republican.
02:50:02.000 So, it'd be more of a shock if it were to be Tallarico.
02:50:06.000 Same thing in Georgia, as in with Ohio and Michigan, because of their incumbents there.
02:50:11.000 So, Yeah, it's just not good.
02:50:15.000 I mean, it's, you know, I do not, I mean, we're what, seven, eight months in?
02:50:20.000 Again, the communications coming out of the admin right now is this is not ending anytime soon.
02:50:26.000 It has a real demoralizing effect.
02:50:27.000 I think it's had a demoralizing effect on everyone.
02:50:30.000 And so, you know, each other kind of be honest in the situation with how you're feeling.
02:50:36.000 Yeah, we're not trying to black pill.
02:50:37.000 We're just kind of calling it like we see it.
02:50:39.000 So, yeah.
02:50:41.000 And the reality, either way, is MAGA is coming to an end because JD Vance, and I mean, I like a lot of rhetoric and policy proposals from JD Vance, but as we hear more from him, see more from him, it's clear he's not like the successor to Trump.
02:50:59.000 He's just.
02:51:00.000 The next Republican candidate.
02:51:01.000 Like, nothing about him is very like Trumpian.
02:51:03.000 Again, he has a lot of those policy positions from MAGA, so to speak.
02:51:08.000 But MAGA as a whole, this probably would have been happening anyway.
02:51:12.000 Maybe it would have been after the midterms as people just kind of like start to sort of reorient, like, okay, well, now we're looking at a, you know, maybe not a post Trump GOP because Trump's always going to be there, but a GOP without Trump being the guy on the ballot.
02:51:25.000 Well, that's going to happen.
02:51:27.000 Exactly.
02:51:27.000 So I was like, you know, this sort of, Maybe not blackpilling, but moving on from Trump was going to happen anyway.
02:51:33.000 It's just, it's happening now rather than after the midterms or as the primaries kick off.
02:51:40.000 Got anything you want to add?
02:51:42.000 Want to berate us for being blackpillars a little more?
02:51:47.000 Well, I mean, I understand your concern and fraction, but I do think that, like, the biggest thing is we don't have enough.
02:52:01.000 Cheerleaders since Charlie's death, really, that he was maybe the thing that was holding that thing all together.
02:52:10.000 But I don't know really much more.
02:52:15.000 I could go through several things.
02:52:17.000 I'm in strong support of the Iran war.
02:52:20.000 Oh.
02:52:21.000 And I think that it needed to be done a long time ago.
02:52:26.000 And I don't know that I'm on the same page with that.
02:52:33.000 I do understand the.
02:52:35.000 The diesel price is hurting and stuff like that.
02:52:38.000 But, you know, that's basically all I want to add.
02:52:44.000 Well, yeah, I mean, and I'm not saying like it's your prerogative, but yeah, I mean, if I were pro Iran war, then I would be very white pilled right now.
02:52:53.000 So, yeah, I think that's just kind of what it comes down to.
02:52:56.000 So, wait, we can be white pilled if we want the war?
02:52:58.000 Yeah.
02:52:59.000 I mean, if you're pro Iran war, you're like, let's go.
02:53:01.000 Because the narrative, I just want to be happy.
02:53:04.000 Because the narrative is like, yeah, this should have happened years ago.
02:53:06.000 And so I understand your perspective then if you're pro Iran.
02:53:10.000 Yeah, I went into Iran when we were in Afghanistan and Iraq because we could have pinchered them.
02:53:14.000 No, it does.
02:53:15.000 It's true.
02:53:15.000 That was the point.
02:53:16.000 That's why they built military bases along the edges of Iran.
02:53:19.000 You want to shout anything out, brother?
02:53:22.000 Yeah, I want to shout out Andrew Wilson and the Crucible crowd for taking the steps against the real black pillars of Candace and Tucker and such, and Nick Matau also, and Gary Melton.
02:53:44.000 It's pretty amazing.
02:53:46.000 Candace is air gap featured, meaning on a brand new machine today.
02:53:53.000 Candace's live stream at 8 p.m. is featured on the marquee of YouTube, featured in the top slot, and her last three episodes are featured in the top three.
02:54:02.000 So if you go to YouTube, it says recent live streams Candace, Candace, Candace, and then live streams Candace, and the main front page Candace.
02:54:10.000 The reason why she's got a massive concurrent viewership count is because they put her on the marquee.
02:54:15.000 Key meaning they guarantee every single person who goes to YouTube default is watching Candace.
02:54:20.000 Holy fuck, that's not an accident.
02:54:23.000 Someone at YouTube is like, we need her up top.
02:54:23.000 Yeah.
02:54:26.000 And I think it's probably the anti Israel stuff.
02:54:28.000 Like the people at YouTube who are doing this probably are just internally, they love the anti Israel stuff.
02:54:35.000 They like Candace's show and they're putting it.
02:54:37.000 I mean, when you have the recent stream section is Candace, Candace, Candace, and literally nobody else, someone manually did that.
02:54:45.000 Well, and it should indicate or maybe prompt some introspection among people that are Candace fans or broadly share her ideology is that.
02:54:55.000 What you are saying, what you're pushing forward, is not threatening to sort of this liberal regime that we live in.
02:55:00.000 If it were, you would be completely banned from everything.
02:55:03.000 She is not the person exposing the conspiracy.
02:55:06.000 She's part of it.
02:55:08.000 Yeah.
02:55:08.000 Yeah.
02:55:08.000 Like, you know, YouTube doesn't put conspiracy theorists in their marquee.
02:55:12.000 Yeah.
02:55:12.000 Like, because you can have whatever your perspective is on Flint, but he's banned from YouTube.
02:55:17.000 Like, literally banned from YouTube.
02:55:19.000 So clearly, something he's saying, something he's pushing, is clearly threatening enough to YouTube and those executives from the ban him.
02:55:27.000 With Candace, it's like, here, have the homepage.
02:55:29.000 Or with Tucker, here, have the Spotify homepage or whatever.
02:55:31.000 So, anyway, brother, thanks for calling in.
02:55:34.000 No problem.
02:55:35.000 Thanks for having me.
02:55:36.000 Take care, buddy.
02:55:37.000 Good night.
02:55:38.000 I just got to say, holy crap.
02:55:41.000 This game is going to be fucking amazing.
02:55:43.000 Yeah, it is.
02:55:44.000 I say that unironically.
02:55:45.000 The story is you're a woman.
02:55:47.000 She's watching, she's listening to a podcast at home, and the podcast doubts the veracity of the claims of the prosecutors.
02:55:53.000 The guy's been convicted.
02:55:55.000 He's convicted of murdering his ex girlfriend, and he's seven days he'll be executed.
02:56:00.000 She goes on the online forum where everyone's talking about how they think she's innocent and they start putting the pieces together.
02:56:06.000 She then realizes she hears something in one of the pieces of audio that's played that nobody notices that a certain train horn actually is not possible.
02:56:16.000 It's not possible that it was the same in the location of the murder.
02:56:19.000 They say, Oh, this is the sound you can hear.
02:56:21.000 And then she's like, Wait a minute, that's a different train.
02:56:24.000 People, they're wrong about that.
02:56:25.000 Holy shit.
02:56:26.000 She does some digging.
02:56:28.000 Throughout the game, you have to listen to the latest episodes of the podcast and go online and talk to the community.
02:56:33.000 And share evidence.
02:56:35.000 And then some of the evidence you get, some other members will be like, hey, that photo you sent, this is where it originates.
02:56:40.000 Like, this is the company you're talking about.
02:56:42.000 And then it ends with 38 minutes before the execution, she gets a stay by you line up all the evidence and present the file.
02:56:50.000 And then they get an emergency stay from the governor.
02:56:53.000 When the guy gets exonerated, you learn the true story of what really happened.
02:56:56.000 And then it ends with her being the final guest in the season finale of the True Crime Podcast, where all of the podcast fans are cheering for her and they're following her and they're like, you're the best.
02:57:06.000 That's the female power fantasy right there.
02:57:09.000 That's what it is.
02:57:11.000 To be fair, maybe women just want to sit there and listen and not actually be involved, in which case, maybe this is a man projecting what a man would do in the circumstance onto a woman.
02:57:20.000 And the women literally just want to sit down and listen to it and then gossip about it.
02:57:25.000 So let's grab our last koala.
02:57:28.000 We've got Elgi.
02:57:32.000 Is that what I say?
02:57:33.000 Elgi.
02:57:34.000 There were two G's.
02:57:34.000 What's up, man?
02:57:35.000 That's why I was like, I'm not going to go soft.
02:57:38.000 No, it's pronounced LG, but what's up, Phil?
02:57:41.000 My question is look, what's the odds of Trump going out in the middle of October and saying, all right, I'm out, total win or loss?
02:57:54.000 Probably zero.
02:57:54.000 I ran.
02:57:55.000 I'm not sure what you're asking, to be honest with you.
02:57:57.000 Trump's going to resign following the midterms?
02:57:59.000 Oh, no.
02:58:00.000 That's not happening.
02:58:01.000 No, I'm saying, what is the odds that Trump pulls out of Iran between now and then, either total victory or loss?
02:58:10.000 Oh, you're saying, oh, pulls out of Iran?
02:58:12.000 Yeah, still zero.
02:58:13.000 Yeah, probably zero.
02:58:14.000 Yeah, because after the midterm, she's going to be like, nah, we're in it.
02:58:17.000 I already lost.
02:58:17.000 Yeah, I mean, look, whatever.
02:58:19.000 If he pulls the conditions remain the same, if he just stops bombing, right?
02:58:24.000 At least as far as Iran's concerned.
02:58:27.000 And they possibly get worse, right?
02:58:29.000 Iran possibly starts saying, okay, well, we're going to start charging a toll to get out of the strait.
02:58:37.000 That's one of the things they've talked about.
02:58:38.000 So it's not just that that's the big problem of the Iran war, by initiating the bombing, he set things in motion with no easy way out.
02:58:51.000 Iran, the people that run Iran are still in control of Iran, and there's still enough military power in the IRGC to harass any kind of transport ship that's going through the Strait.
02:59:05.000 So, Iran does have the ability to say, Well, we're going to charge.
02:59:09.000 And if you don't, if you try to go through the Strait without paying us, then, you know, we're going to shoot something at your, you know, we'll blow up your ship.
02:59:18.000 And so that has a major impact on, you know, the.
02:59:24.000 The global oil supply and stuff.
02:59:26.000 So it's the Iran war has basically unlocked a Pandora's box of bad stuff.
02:59:33.000 There's no easy way out of it now.
02:59:36.000 And that's why it's dragged on because if it was, if there was an easy way out, he could have just said, okay, we're done in May and this wouldn't be happening.
02:59:41.000 Well, yeah, if you read reporting from the Iranian camp, they're fully aware that Trump's party, because the ruling party is coming up on an election.
02:59:52.000 They fully understand that.
02:59:54.000 And they have leverage either way.
02:59:57.000 Before the midterms, they understand they can harm Trump electorally.
03:00:02.000 And then after the midterms, if the Democrats, you know, if they likely win, if that manifests, they can start jamming up funding for the war.
03:00:11.000 So, like every three months, Congress signs off on certain funding aspects for the military.
03:00:20.000 If the Democrats are in, they're going to try and jam up this war as much as possible.
03:00:26.000 So then after that, now Trump.
03:00:28.000 You know, is also in a tough spot, which is now he's dealing with less plentiful resources than, or the Pentagon's dealing with less plentiful resources than they had before.
03:00:37.000 So, yeah, I think it's unlikely.
03:00:40.000 Iran just has a lot of leverage, and that's a really scary thing.
03:00:45.000 And so, Iran's in no position to take anything less than the deal that they want by and large.
03:00:52.000 And I don't think Trump's going to back off unless he can take home something that he can, you know, dress up as a victory for the American people.
03:01:00.000 So, Yeah, that's, I mean, that's been the theme.
03:01:03.000 This is what I've been talking about in the show is like, I just do, I still, it's seven months in and I still do not see where the brinksmanship is going to occur.
03:01:09.000 The United States and Iran have completely disparate goals in this conflict.
03:01:15.000 And Iran's now in a position, say it again.
03:01:18.000 It's been like that for 50 years.
03:01:20.000 Well, yeah.
03:01:21.000 But I mean, Iran's in a position where now they can start to say, okay, we might be able to keep a toll or, you know, negotiate some sort of toll on the straight.
03:01:32.000 In conjunction with sanctions relief from the United States, like that is now on the table for them.
03:01:38.000 You know, the initial speculation was like, okay, well, maybe the US just pulls like entirely out of Iraq or something.
03:01:44.000 But that is now, you know, theoretically something that maybe the Iranians would be happy with.
03:01:50.000 And if the strait, you know, is less, you know, free or clear, so to speak, than it was before the war, I don't know how Trump can really dress that up.
03:02:00.000 I mean, I guess he could go home and say, okay, we destroyed their navy.
03:02:03.000 But it's like navies and asymmetrical warfare don't matter as much.
03:02:07.000 The Russians have a massive navy, and the Ukrainians basically don't even have a navy.
03:02:10.000 Their navy is like a few boats.
03:02:12.000 Yet Ukraine is going toe to toe with the Russians right now.
03:02:17.000 I guess you could spend that on Fox, but that doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things right now.
03:02:26.000 I hate to say it, but if we don't take out the IRGC, we're looking at $7, $8 gallon gas.
03:02:33.000 Yeah, well, and we can't take out the IRGC.
03:02:36.000 I mean, we've killed how many?
03:02:37.000 I mean, what I think the Washington Post said 50 people down the flow, 50 tiers down the flow chart in some trees.
03:02:46.000 And it turns out every time we kill one of their officials, they just report.
03:02:49.000 Place them with another guy that, like, literally has the exact same ideology.
03:02:53.000 So I don't even know how you, I mean, and the IRGC is kind of rogue right now.
03:02:57.000 Like, not rogue, but they have slightly differing perspectives in the Iranian civil government.
03:03:04.000 So the Iranian civil government probably be more keen on negotiating a settlement with the United States right now.
03:03:09.000 The IRGC got fired up after Khomeini's funeral and started bombing ships in the strait.
03:03:16.000 So the IRGC is, you know, when people that are proponents of the war are saying, well, Iran is this fanatical.
03:03:22.000 Extremist regime, they're really talking about the IRGC because the IRGC is kind of this loose cannon who will literally get fired up after a funeral and start bombing ships.
03:03:30.000 The Iranian civil government seems to be a bit more, again, still hostile to the United States, but a bit more amenable to negotiation and brinksmanship.
03:03:41.000 Well, the end is nigh.
03:03:43.000 The elections are just, what are we at, six weeks?
03:03:46.000 Yeah, something like that.
03:03:47.000 Not even five and a half ish.
03:03:49.000 We're going to have a big party.
03:03:52.000 Very exciting.
03:03:53.000 We're going to have catering.
03:03:55.000 We'll be in D.C.
03:03:55.000 Yeah.
03:03:56.000 So we're likely going to have a lot of members of Congress that are in the area probably coming in.
03:03:56.000 Oh, yeah.
03:04:01.000 We'll see.
03:04:02.000 Actually, no, probably not.
03:04:04.000 I mean, they'll probably be at HQs.
03:04:06.000 Yeah.
03:04:06.000 Yeah, exactly.
03:04:07.000 I was going to say because there's a handful that are over here that we know that might, but yeah, probably not.
03:04:12.000 Actually, we'd be better off just being here and having, you know, like hanging out with Riley and going, but we'll be in D.C.
03:04:19.000 We got the new studio that's popping up.
03:04:21.000 So we'll see, brother.
03:04:22.000 We'll see.
03:04:23.000 Anything else you wanted to add?
03:04:25.000 Yeah, I just wanted to shout out my YouTube.
03:04:28.000 Well, not my YouTube, but my GoFundMe for an EarthTube system that I'm putting in that it's going to last me 50 to 100 years.
03:04:35.000 Should cut my power bill now to practically the bare minimum, which bare minimum is 50 bucks a month.
03:04:42.000 Right on.
03:04:44.000 Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
03:04:46.000 I appreciate it.
03:04:48.000 Take care, buddy.
03:04:50.000 I just want to say to everybody, I just want to say to everybody, 2027 is going to be the best year ever.
03:04:57.000 I genuinely mean that.
03:04:59.000 From these meetings and these interviews I had in California, the new, the, so the next episode of Tim Pool show on Sunday was filmed here.
03:05:07.000 We had Toni Merkel on.
03:05:08.000 After that, we've got a temporary set.
03:05:12.000 Looks very professional.
03:05:13.000 There's a TV in the middle.
03:05:14.000 It says Tim Pool show on it.
03:05:16.000 It's like, I never do stuff like that.
03:05:18.000 And then we'll be in the new studio in D.C. Big stuff is coming.
03:05:22.000 And not just for us.
03:05:24.000 I'm saying, like, it's not blackpilling to say right now that Republicans are going to lose, Democrats are going to do really bad things.
03:05:30.000 But the end.
03:05:32.000 The end, I mean, when I say that, I'm talking about the midterms coming up.
03:05:36.000 That's when we're going to get, but things are going to start getting good.
03:05:40.000 And it's going to be real good.
03:05:42.000 It's going to get real good.
03:05:42.000 2027 is going to be the best year ever for everybody.
03:05:45.000 Trust me.
03:05:47.000 The night is always darkest before the dawn.
03:05:49.000 And let me just say that I'm hearing really good things.
03:05:51.000 So you should all be very, very hopeful and excited.
03:05:54.000 Get excited, everybody.
03:05:55.000 No joke.
03:05:55.000 Thanks for hanging out.
03:05:56.000 We'll see y'all tomorrow morning.
03:05:58.000 Got segments coming up.
03:05:59.000 And then, of course, IRL.
03:06:00.000 So thanks for hanging out.