Ep 1 - Based and Red-Pilled w⧸ Liberty Lockdown
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1 hour and 34 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Tower Gang Power Hour, the boys introduce themselves and talk about their favorite parts of being autistic. They also talk about how they met each other and how they got into the Tower Gang. They also discuss their favorite things about being autistic and what it's like being the most autistic person on the internet.
Transcript
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Prepare for the most horrendous wave of autism you have ever experienced
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I'm here with Capital Arcus, Toad, Liberty Lockdown, Clint, and Ovaltine.
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And I am Nick Ashley of the Individualist Podcast.
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So you guys give yourself a little intro, and we'll get this shit going.
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Well, he's not black, so he's definitely not Ovaltine.
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Well, yeah, I mean, I'm Toad, and I have been referred to as the most autistic member of Tower Gang.
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Which probably means I'm the most autistic person on Twitter overall.
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But I'm known as the Tower Gang Builder of Rhodes and Destroyer of Austin Peterson.
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Thanks to Nick for shouting me out in his podcast.
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But that's how I'm going to introduce myself every time.
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I am probably most famous for asking Dave Smith if he'd blow Ron Paul.
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And going on, well, I wanted to call Friends Against Government, but Timeline Earth and dropping the N-bomb as many times as possible.
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Can I ask you where your picture comes from, Cap?
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And on the one side, obviously, it says Mors Vincit Omnia, which is Death Conquers All.
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On the other side, it says Memento Mori, Memento Vivere, which means remember to live and remember to die.
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No, I just think about you every time I rub the coin, Toge.
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It's like, is that a condom in your back pocket?
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So, I guess we can tell the audience, we all, well, I met all of y'all through Tower Gang.
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I guess that's honestly where we all met each other, mostly.
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I mean, Clint was already pretty famous, semi-famous among libertarians.
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Well, I mean, dude, you just had on Dave Smith.
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I couldn't believe that he dodged that question about Ron Paul.
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Especially given that I would do it, even if, like, it wasn't to make him president.
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You would just end up looking like Sacha Baron Cohen did.
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He'd be like, get this fucking queer out of here.
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Toad, what's it like being the most autistic member of Tower Gang?
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It means that I wind up being, like, really obsessed with the towers, and then I get, like, really nitpicky about them.
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Also, if there's not a tower always going, like, one tower after the other, Toad will be like, hey, where the fuck are the towers at?
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Like, it'll just be like, hey, can we get towering?
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Like, I feel like Tower Gang is, like, over because of this.
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I will say one thing on that subject, and that is quality over quantity, friend.
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We got to make sure we're targeting and towering the appropriate people.
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Half the time I see that we've started a tower, and it's like a child under a child comment.
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They have to click show more tweets just to see the reply that we're replying to.
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We got to start towering top-level replies or top-level tweets that are, you know, original posts by people that we want to tower because otherwise it's just going to be for our circle jerk.
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Well, no, like, the last one of those that I did that was, like, in the middle of a tweet thread was a thread that was all tweets by the Boston Globe, and it was, like, all this bullshit about, you know, requiring the vaccine to be able to do anything.
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And the one that I picked had been quoted by Tom Woods.
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A little intern that runs the Boston Globe Twitter account?
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I've always wondered who or how, because I'm, like, basically retired.
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How the fuck do the rest of you do this shit all day?
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For me, I keep my, like, I work, I'm an engineer, so, like, I'm at the computer all day, and I just keep my phone right beside me, and, like, I just watch out for my boss, and I'll just always, I'm continuously scrolling, just, and I'll just, like, hop on and, like, do my letter, hop off.
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Yeah, I do software engineering, so I'm, like, you know, write code, and I'm, like, all right, I'm going to run the app right now.
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Oh, let's see if I have to put a letter in, like, a tower or something.
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Well, it's good, it's, like, there's, like, constant, like, it's crazy how, well, I mean, how autistic we all are to where we, like, literally can start a tower, I mean, and finish it.
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If it's a good one, we'll get one done in, like, 30 minutes.
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But we're pretty organized for a couple of, like, autistic, like, dipshits on Twitter.
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I was going to say, it's a really, really perfect, like, semi-decentralized because nobody's really the leader.
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I was really happy with how quickly the Scott's dick is much bigger than yours tower got done.
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It's legendary, and I think it might have been our longest tower.
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Which is super appropriate for a fucking dick joke.
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It was as long as Scott Horton's dick, for sure.
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That was on Austin Peterson because Austin Peterson was, again, promoting nuking Japan during World War II.
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Scott Horton obviously got pissed off at that, and there was some – I think it was on some reply where –
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Yeah, so what Scott Horton said was I always – I never liked him.
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He said – or I always thought he was a bad person, and Austin Peterson was, like, the feeling is always mutual.
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Yeah, it's like Scott Horton is an election in this liberty moment.
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You've never won an election in your life, and you're insulting this guy who wrote, like, the masterpiece of anti-war books?
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Bro, every time he posted that, I would just be like, man, you shouldn't be standing there.
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Right, and then, yeah, I think Ace responded to that.
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Yeah, the response was, I guess those people shouldn't have been in the Twin Towers then either.
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I responded with the picture of the nuclear shadow of the girl jump roping.
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So you shouldn't have been jump roping, little girl, or jumping rope, I think is what I said.
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But, yeah, I quote tweeted him, and then he quote tweeted me, and then I quote tweeted him again.
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And he said, hey, Austin always wants you to know that killing kids is always on the table or something like that.
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And then he responded, well, if it's between your kids or mine, I'm going to pick mine.
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Hi, I'm Austin Peterson, and I support killing innocents, up to and including your children.
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And then he quote tweeted me and said, hi, I'm Nick Ashley.
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And I'm like, dude, I made, like, I took great pains to explain, like, adhering to the NAP does not make you a pacifist.
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And I even showed him a little screenshot of the definition of pacifism, which, like, does not ever allow violence ever.
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Like, the NAP allows for defensive violence, for fuck's sake.
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But, yeah, I mean, the NAP obviously allows defensive violence, which nuking Japan is not.
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And I had also, I totally dunked on Peterson, and he didn't even give me a response on it, right?
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And just, like, I mean, it was the all-star game out there, dude.
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It was his tweet where he was, like, where he said, like, I'm close to an anarchist, like, blah, something like that.
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And I quote tweeted it, and I was like, I'm close to an anarchist.
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I just support government-sponsored mass murder.
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The funny thing about that was, was he said anarchists are brain-meltingly stupid.
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And then, in another tweet, he said, I'm close to being an anarchist.
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If I know the Twitter handle, I would shout it out.
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But it's a pretty popular girl, libertarian, who said, so you're pretty close to being brain-meltingly stupid?
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The funny thing is, is that he's advocating for literally melting small children's brains.
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Well, the best tweet I had on it, like, it got, like, almost 100 likes on it, and a couple, like, a bunch of retweets.
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But he was saying, like, I think it was something like anarchism, you're...
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Oh, it was the one, like, I would rather kill all the people than let my family die.
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And it was, like, in anarchism, you get carried by 12 and judged by 6 or something like that.
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And he said that, and I was like, you know you've lost the argument.
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You know you lost the argument when you're advocating...
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You're saying that anarchism is dumb because we try to hurt the least amount of people.
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We're literally just trying to leave people alone, not kill them, not hurt them, and you're just like, oh, fucking idiots.
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Well, and for the record, I think most, if not all of us, would value our family's lives over as strangers.
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But simultaneously, I'm not really interested in nuking largely civilian populations to protect...
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Potentially protect my family when they're not even fucking in America.
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I have Austin Peterson tentatively booked for next month on my show.
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And now at this point, all I can talk to him about is this topic.
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Well, he's been doing this nuke shit for a long time.
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Dude, I had to argue with him, like, last month on it.
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Like, it was before Tower Gang I was arguing with him about it.
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Here's what bugs me about this shit is me and another...
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Me and Ace and some other folks were arguing with another, like...
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But every time we would say something like, it's wrong to kill innocents, they would just
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We're just saying it is bad to kill innocents who had nothing to do with the conflict.
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Wait, so you're against raping innocents, but what about when they raped innocents?
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I'm just saying that you cannot kill innocents.
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You're saying, look at this other bad shit that happened.
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It doesn't argue against the point that I'm making that it's bad to kill innocents.
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That's my favorite is they'll just be like, well, what about Dresden?
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No, what happened with the neocons about Dresden was...
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Like, you're not killing me with these amazing points.
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Like, I'm just going to be like, yeah, we shouldn't have done that either.
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What happened was, Pace would talk about Dresden as a bad thing, and the neocons would call
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Because he thought Dresden was bad, that like, he thought like, that America shouldn't
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Oh, I mean, he did think that America shouldn't have gotten involved.
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And let me be the first to say, I have sympathy for the children of Nazis that got fucking
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There's this really great game that I played recently called Sniper Elite 4, and you...
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Play a commando, an American commando in fascist Italy, you know, close to the end of the
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And you like assassinate people and like take out targets and like do all this like cool
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But you pick up little letters, like last letters that these people have written to their
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families or that they carry with them from their families.
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And you like read little snippets of people's lives.
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It's when you when you the only way you can be a neocon or maybe not the only way, but
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to me, it has to be you cannot humanize your opponent or anybody else in your like outside.
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You can't humanize them because once you humanize them, what you're doing, you have to accept
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that you're just absolutely murdering and killing and doing absolutely nasty shit for
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either no reason or the reason is just the state wants you to.
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But it also didn't start with the neocons either.
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I recently listened to an audio book, a really great book by have you guys ever heard of Arthur
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It's called 1917 Lenin Wilson and the Birth of the New World Disorder.
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It's about America getting involved in World War One and how Wilson and Lenin were kind
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You know, Wilson had this vision for world democracy and Lenin had, you know, obviously
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he was the original communist revolutionary, really.
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Um, and I mean, the shit didn't start with the neocons where they were dehumanizing and
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we talk about, matter of fact, I want to tie this into something Hillary Clinton recently
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Cause she said the party that, yeah, you guys know what I'm talking about?
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I haven't seen, I don't pay attention or think Hillary Clinton recently tweeted out something
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like party that created freedom fries, which is what they called French fries after 9-11,
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excuse me, uh, wants you to know that cancel culture exists.
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And the thing about that is I'm like, well, tell me about fucking Liberty Cabbage.
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Like in World War One, this shit didn't start yesterday is all I'm saying.
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And the same thing with this knee and the anti-German campaign that was, uh, and the vast majority
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of Americans are of German descent or rather that is the largest ethnic origin of Americans.
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Uh, and in the 19 teens, whenever the United States was gearing up to enter World War
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One, the anti-German campaign was atrocious and they called, they called hamburgers Liberty
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They called sauerkraut Liberty cabbage and anything, yeah.
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And anything German, there was even German immigrants or, you know, it, you know, second
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generation German, German Americans who were persecuted and killed because of it.
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So the thing about it is, is it didn't start with the neocons.
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I appreciate the point you're making about them, but it's just a stupid, like how, I
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think the point you were making is the only way you could look, German people are just
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It's not like everybody is just trying to spread some mayonnaise on their ham sandwiches.
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They're, they're blonde haired, blue eyed, regular white people.
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It's one thing if like a regular conservative white person sees another, like a Muslim or whatever.
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And I'm not saying Muslim as an ethnicity, I'm aware of that.
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I'm just saying an Arab Muslim, they're brown, they have brown hair, they have, they're swarthy
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But it's a lot easier to, it's a lot easier to un-person that person rather than somebody
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So they have to really lay on the propaganda really hard.
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It was one that me and Jose actually talked, he was talking about the book Propaganda.
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I can't remember who wrote it, but he was talking about just how like,
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but that's, um, dude, we're getting really political.
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Also, I'm going to say more like funny and comedic, but.
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Yo, uh, Nick, I want to hear about how you got banned today.
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Like the, the little, your, your account has been temporarily restricted.
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You went to the principal's office and they suspended you.
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Some fat retard in his, in his replies said something.
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So that, it got like a few retweets and over a hundred,
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And the guy like it rate, we ratioed the fuck out of this guy.
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But this morning I wake up and when I get on Twitter, it says, you're, you know,
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your account's been temporarily restricted for 12 hours.
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You, uh, Cole, I was saying, if y'all need me tonight, let me know for the, for the show.
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And not even like literally these, I don't even like the millisecond I hit send for that
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And I mean, I had, I was 10 hours into my band.
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So it only lasted the remaining two hours that I was completely shut out.
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Everybody don't, don't sarcastically compliment people.
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So wait, if you say fag jokingly in a private group, in a private thread, it couldn't have
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We sent dong pictures in that group all day and we're fine.
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I mean, some, some guy named butt pirate, uh, spammed, uh, the end of one of our, uh,
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Somehow it was made into a gif where he's like pulling his anus open and like repeatedly
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I've been trying to get tower gang to a more secure platform than Twitter messages.
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That would get struck on YouTube if I pulled that up, but it is, it is so funny.
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That's so sick that we can't even talk like shit to each other in DMs.
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We do, most of the time, like, we are just breaking each other's balls all day long.
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But like, the immediate, like, Nick says fag and all of a sudden just banned immediately.
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But I think it was because I had an active ban.
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And we've spelled it phonetically in towers at least.
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No, we also, we also just say, uh, okay and then a bundle of sticks.
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So, the other thing I want to touch on, and I'm going to put it on the, uh, there was
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some, a big hullabaloo in the, uh, Twitter world today.
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This tweet right here, um, it pretty much divided all of Liberty Twitter.
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So, I'm going to start it off by just, uh, Menarche Thinker.
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I've been roasting the fuck out of this guy since I got on Twitter.
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I've actually, I've talked to him on a voice chat before.
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He obviously, he obviously did something that I didn't appreciate.
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So, he, he posted about how basically his dad died, right?
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How am I going to pay for college without my parents?
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How am I going to pay for college without my parents?
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I feel like that's like a really cringy thing to tweet.
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Especially from an account that you've dedicated entirely to the discussion of politics.
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So much so to the point where that it's the theme of your banner image and your fucking
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Because like authoritarian right is, is blue and Libertarian right is yellow.
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I think he actually, like, so those two flags are like really close to each other.
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And I think the right flag or whatever has a darker blue color slightly.
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And I think he changed his to be a little bit lighter shade of blue so that it was the
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Is he going to click on his profile for me, Cole?
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I used to have Austro-Libertarian in my bio, but I changed it to anarcho-alcoholism.
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I can tell you all the story on that if y'all want, but we'll talk about it later.
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I got to say real quick that if your dad just died and your mom is suffering with stage
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four liver cancer, and the thing that you encapsulate all this with is, how am I going
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So, like, I mean, of course, I feel, like, really bad for this kid.
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And, yeah, I mean, all of this is happening, but what he takes out of it is, now my parents
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I can just imagine he was like, Mom, I know you're in a deathbed.
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Has he been having conversations about how, about student loans and college and the price
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Because it might be something that was topical to him.
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I don't see any history of that on his feed at all.
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This, like, seems to be the first post about it.
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I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt because I'm...
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Well, yeah, I want to say, it should be good to set up, like, this is the premise.
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And, you know, he got a couple, I mean, before it blew up.
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Like, it had a couple of likes, you know, a couple of people saying he's okay.
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And then, all hell breaks loose when a brave, brave Twitter warrior, Woosta15, says,
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Which, funniest thing, when I saw that, I said, ooh, that's good.
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I got to say, I actually, I agree more with Ace on this in that it is a fucking, it's
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Like, I laughed at it and I'm like, but it is evil.
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I was like, that's funny and you shouldn't have done that.
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You know, like, I mean, maybe I would be okay with it if it was really, you know, a comment
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on, you know, if it was like a dig at like Meghan McCain or something like that.
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We literally said, we always post Meghan McCain and shut up, Meg.
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Shut up, Meg, when she's crying over her father's casket.
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I don't think this was that bad of a tweet at all.
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Like, listen, man, you're on Twitter, on the internet.
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You're tweeting too much information on a political Twitter thread, on a political Twitter page that you made knowing that other people are going to be engaging in arguments and debates with you, right?
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And you're going to suddenly tweet something vulnerable and like, like, gush about how your, your life's not going to be able to pay for college.
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And, and some guy on the internet, some asshole on the internet just takes a jab at you.
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Like, everyone was like saying how everybody should like kill themselves.
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I saw, I saw tweets that were like, go back up, go back up, Cole.
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Look at all these libertarians speaking out against.
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I like, I like, I like everybody in these comments who were, who are criticizing him.
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I will say though, I do think I I'm with Clint.
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It's a dick move, but it is pretty funny because I look, my line about minarchist is literally everybody on the planet is a minarchist because nobody would say,
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So technically everybody, but the thing about it is, Cap, you just made a good point about him having a specific, I didn't really think about it that hard until you just said that.
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I mean, I thought I would disagree with all of you on this, but I pretty much agree with what Clint said and apparently what Ace said and what Nick just said where, I mean, yeah, I think it was a dick move to tweet that, especially like in this moment, you know, against a dude who is a kid.
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Like, why do we give a fuck what this, what this random asshole on the internet said in the first place?
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Like, why does it fucking, why give him all the negative intention, man?
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You're getting, you're giving him a shit ton of engagement.
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You know, he doesn't give a fuck what you think.
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Okay, so ignore him and keep giving the kid support.
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And we have to give all of our fucking energy to the one negative tweet.
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It tells me a lot that we care more about the bad guy than we do about giving comfort to the kid, which is supposedly the whole point.
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No, I mean you don't remember the million steps you took that you didn't trip, but you remember the one time you tripped on nothing.
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Yeah, but like the more attention it gets, the more it keeps coming up on his feed, the more he keeps getting mentioned and replied to.
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And that keeps – it's like poking him in the forehead over and over again.
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If he was looking for sympathy, it's a weird way to go about it to come –
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To encapsulate this entire emotion with the most selfish fucking instinct I can imagine.
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Facebook or Instagram because Twitter is like –
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I've only been on Twitter for about like – oh, I mean if you look at my Twitter, it's been there for like eight years.
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But I've only been active for like the past month, and I've been mostly on Instagram.
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Twitter and Instagram are crazy different in how people treat each other.
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But Twitter is not the one for saying, hey, guys, my dad just died.
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I've seen tweets go viral because their parents died.
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There'll be like 120,000 likes, and no one's saying negative shit.
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But because he's a minarchist and anarchists hate him, and then also because he said, oh, how am I going to get fucking money from college?
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I don't think we should have dunked on him and said, oh, you're disabled because you're a minarchist.
00:30:53.940
I would have gone after him personally for the merit of the argument, which is get a fucking job, you cunt.
00:31:01.720
I mean, yeah, his tweet, yeah, like it shows this like selfish instinct.
00:31:05.980
But if I want to give him any benefit of the doubt here, which I will try to, he is – I mean I'm pretty sure he's quite autistic because we all basically are.
00:31:16.440
And I've talked to this guy on video chat, so I pretty much know that he is.
00:31:33.760
Well, and the one other thing I was going to say is you could also point out the fact that the state obviously is totally fucked with the student loan market.
00:31:42.900
So the state is messing with all these incentives to such a degree where it sets up situations like this where people can't pay for college.
00:31:51.620
Well, he's being libertarian and always bring him back to the state.
00:31:53.280
And the thing about that is he wasn't making that deep of an argument.
00:32:04.280
This is the kind of thing I would have typed up and then backspaced and not tweeted.
00:32:11.840
I'm going to be doing it a lot more now that I've got a fucking ban.
00:32:20.860
No, the ones I back out of isn't because I think they're too bad.
00:32:38.540
But besides this whole drama, Cole and I also had a fun little romp today.
00:32:56.880
We talked to some military people, and I thought that was funny.
00:33:28.200
He was on Dave Smith's show like a couple weeks ago.
00:33:30.560
If you're a conservative, you're not red-pilled, man.
00:33:34.140
Red-pilled means you see the fucking toad of the matrix, man.
00:33:37.040
Red-pilled means you understand that you're plugged into the system.
00:33:49.500
For example, James Burnham was a conservative, but he was red-pilled as fuck.
00:34:01.600
Jimmy Dore is just a lefty red-pilled, but he's red-pilled.
00:34:09.420
Also, another example of a red-pilled leftist I point to is George Orwell.
00:34:16.980
Well, the thing about being red-pilled is not –
00:34:21.560
I'm sorry, Toad, but I don't want to forget my point.
00:34:23.760
Don't say that just because somebody is conservative.
00:34:25.700
The reason you're saying that is because conservative is such a broad term that we use for somebody who is mildly on the right of center in politics.
00:34:33.840
I'm saying Jesse Owens – I'm sorry, not Jesse Owens.
00:34:54.480
He was like about that military – the women – pregnant women in the military, whatever he tweeted.
00:35:00.220
People say women in the military are a bad idea.
00:35:05.280
Female military members send 76,000 tweets about how stupid they are or some shit like that, how stupid they are and how they aren't offended.
00:35:12.900
But so this came off of – which I still haven't watched it yet, and I've seen a lot of –
00:35:19.540
The Tucker Carlson clip, which apparently he's just like red-pilling a bunch of like paleocons and fucking boomercons.
00:35:27.240
Well, and I was just going to say that I think being red-pilled is not like a black and white thing.
00:35:41.880
You can take like a series of red pills and become more and more, you know, informed about various things.
00:35:48.580
If you still believe that the state is the solution, you're not fully red-pilled in my view.
00:35:53.200
However, you can still be red-pilled and be a conservative because you see that the system is sick and that it doesn't function.
00:36:00.700
It's like God willing, you will slip down the smoke to where we're at.
00:36:02.300
It's like Neo before he takes the red pill then.
00:36:07.940
I mean would you consider Thomas Sowell to be blue-pilled?
00:36:14.020
But when I say conservative, I mean conservative in the best sense of the term because conservative goes anywhere from fucking Rick Santorum all the way to Thomas Sowell.
00:36:23.040
Well, to somebody who's actually trying to conserve –
00:36:29.280
Thomas Sowell is culturally conservative, but he's definitely an ANCAP.
00:36:37.940
Yeah, but he denies the legitimacy of government.
00:36:40.800
Some conservatives – well, that's what I'm saying though is your definition of conservative.
00:36:57.600
I'm making fun of these two fucking uptight vets.
00:37:02.740
So these – I guess it's two military members or former military or something start talking about –
00:37:09.120
And what is – what is – what is the animal in her little profile picture?
00:37:16.260
Whenever people have a fucking name in Twitter that's that long, I'd like disregard their opinions.
00:37:21.900
If you were a whole team, you would just block them.
00:37:26.500
I'm trying to – I think it was like really based, right?
00:37:28.480
He was just dunking on the military essentially.
00:37:32.020
But he also like – he called out some like specific shit.
00:37:37.060
Yeah, because the Pentagon has been like targeting him with their tweets.
00:37:40.360
They've been like specifically targeting him on Twitter, making official statements about him as the military, which is kind of a bad look for them.
00:37:50.500
Female veterans should be held to the same standards, same physical fitness standards as men.
00:37:55.800
So I said the standard military fitness test should be fitness stick in your ass.
00:38:03.620
Yeah, this girl who is a mutual of mine, Carl, she's a mutual of mine.
00:38:09.520
By the way, inside joke, Toad, any time like a woman Twitter – honestly, any woman comes up, Toad's like, oh, yeah, she's a mutual of mine.
00:38:25.080
And then another one, she was like talking about – they were talking about testing into the military.
00:38:31.780
And she said there are 15% that make it through, and it's one center.
00:38:35.400
I don't necessarily think a cook needs the same test as infantry either.
00:38:38.020
And so I said, yeah, women in the armed forces belong in the kitchen.
00:38:44.460
He said, I believe the armed forces should be only women.
00:38:48.780
That was my favorite tweet in this thread, I think.
00:38:55.660
He's going to get on here because Cody's hilarious.
00:39:01.220
He's the one who threw this whole shebang together.
00:39:03.620
He's the whole reason that Tower Gang is what it is.
00:39:06.480
One of the original things that they tweeted at Tucker Carlson was the picture of the woman who was like fireman – or not fireman.
00:39:18.380
And she was like, look, this is what our military looks like.
00:39:25.760
And I quote tweeted that, and this is pretty much encapsulated – sums up the whole thing.
00:39:29.720
It's like, oh, yeah, women can commit fucking international war crimes too.
00:39:39.720
This is the perfect summary for what makes neoliberalism evil is that it's not about ending.
00:39:48.700
It's just about making sure that our fucking war fighters are as diverse as possible.
00:39:54.920
It's still republicanism ultimately at its core.
00:39:58.380
I haven't listened to the Tucker Carlson thing totally, but from what I gleaned from it, it was like – he wasn't upset about like we're killing people in other countries.
00:40:06.920
It was more like, hey, they're trying to be too woke.
00:40:14.600
Well, no, he does some anti-war stuff in this clip.
00:40:20.340
He's the most anti-war person on any of these fucking cable shows.
00:40:25.840
Yeah, he's not anti-war, but he's more anti-war than anybody else.
00:40:37.000
Women should be allowed – you said – no, no, your tweet.
00:40:40.480
Women should be allowed to do those sweet-ass gun tricks with an M14.
00:40:49.840
I said, I just want beautiful, mostly naked women doing rifle tricks with an M16.
00:40:55.800
Oh, this is the most terrible history we came, dude.
00:41:11.400
She's like, quite frankly, I could see that being used as a styop to distract the enemy.
00:41:15.900
Nah, I just want to see them titties bounce, girl.
00:41:19.660
The most ridiculous thing here is that, like, she didn't even realize –
00:41:22.480
she didn't seem to realize you guys are trolling her.
00:41:27.400
That was so – that's what made it so funny was that she didn't – there was another one in here.
00:41:34.080
I love it when you guys describe it as trolling when we're totally speaking from the heart.
00:41:40.720
But the thing about it is it's like doing that kind of shit.
00:41:44.440
I talked about this with Ace whenever I had him on.
00:41:47.880
It's like just – and Rothbard wrote about this and Michael Malice talks about this a lot.
00:41:52.420
It's just using humor as a weapon and just making fun of people.
00:41:57.600
A third party can look at that and point and laugh with you and then take the person you're making fun of a lot less seriously because they're being made fun of.
00:42:21.660
Thanks so much for joining Tower Gang Power Hour.
00:42:23.760
But the men are – because my thing was people were saying like this isn't funny or this isn't like the right time or it's a bad time.
00:42:39.260
Like the funniest 9-11 jokes were made on 9-12.
00:42:42.940
Like the Ari Shafir joke about Kobe was hilarious and it happened the day of or maybe the day after Kobe died.
00:42:51.000
That's a perfect example actually because I am like a complete fanboy for Kobe.
00:42:56.840
He was like my complete idol growing up because I was a white kid who wanted to be a basketball player.
00:43:01.400
And I just thought he was fucking unbelievably brilliant.
00:43:12.280
But it doesn't matter because I read that shit from Ari Shafir.
00:43:23.180
I love the courage to like keep with your bit even in the most like fucked up time because the whole world was mourning for the most part.
00:43:34.360
But it is a little different when you're dunking on a fucking world famous superstar and you're dunking on a fucking –
00:43:42.300
Whose dad just died and whose mom is dying of cancer.
00:43:44.360
Again, I would have far more sympathy though if it wasn't such a selfish proclamation from this kid.
00:43:51.220
It really – like that to me opens up the window.
00:43:56.960
I want to make him – I want to mention this is if he had tweeted like, what am I going to do rather than –
00:44:07.860
If he didn't include college, if he just said, what am I going to do –
00:44:10.360
Right, what am I going to do without my parents?
00:44:13.440
He did tweet, what am I going to do without my parents?
00:44:18.460
If he tweeted verbatim, what am I going to do when they're both gone or something like that?
00:44:29.800
It's just his focus is college because he's 19.
00:44:34.640
Like, what am I going to do without my parents even though I don't rely on my parents?
00:44:38.060
But like I still like to read that because, you know –
00:44:41.340
What am I going to do to my parents is like a generic like I don't know how I'm going to go on with my life without my parents.
00:44:49.320
If you're really – like his mom is like, hey, son, will you bring me a glass of water before I take my last breath?
00:44:57.120
And he's like, how am I going to pay for college, bitch?
00:45:03.420
She's like breathing out her last breath and he's like tapping away.
00:45:12.300
He's just like, he's tapping away on his fucking Twitter feed.
00:45:18.380
He's like scrolling like no one's ever scrolled before.
00:45:27.620
And I think it was his father, not his mother, but I don't know.
00:45:41.180
I've already rethought it based on how selfish I realized this tweet was.
00:45:46.720
I got to also say in your moment of grief and like concern and your whole life is in turmoil,
00:45:54.160
I can still have sympathy for that position even like, yeah, you don't know how you're going to pay for college.
00:46:01.440
But if people dunk on you when you say stupid shit like that, I don't really have that big of a problem with it.
00:46:07.260
However, his parents are dying, so I also don't have a problem with fucking everyone coming to his defense.
00:46:21.360
By the way, the all caps stuff, it wasn't his dad dying all caps.
00:46:25.500
It was how am I going to pay for college without my parents.
00:46:30.180
It's like when you treat, that's when you look out.
00:46:34.240
The all caps really does emphasize what matters to him.
00:46:44.560
Yeah, it's like combined with my mom having stage four liver cancer, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
00:47:01.380
Well, and we're, we're dedicating like an entire podcast to him.
00:47:05.960
So he's going to gain some popularity out of it.
00:47:30.820
Yeah, they hated Woosa because he told them the truth.
00:47:50.900
Because I've seen him show up in Towers before.
00:47:56.120
It'll be interesting to see if Ace lets him in.
00:48:09.440
It looks like he also got ratioed pretty badly.
00:48:29.580
I'm going to like it when I see – Luke was actually going off.
00:48:45.740
I will say this, being so new to Twitter because I only joined in like December of just this past year, there's a lot of feuds between certain female libertarians.
00:49:04.080
So I don't think I fully understand Twitter just yet.
00:49:08.020
So I kind of have to recuse myself from a lot of these things.
00:49:12.360
Did you just scroll by a video of a woman undressing?
00:49:29.580
Norm MacDonald is a legend, and I would die for him.
00:49:53.920
I love that there were some of these guys, big people like Luke, who – I think he does
00:49:59.980
And, like, defending this, like, because he's just like, listen, it's a joke.
00:50:05.900
And I've had – I was – I think I sent it to Tower Gang, like, in the group chat about
00:50:10.320
how, like, I have a Facebook group that is, like, for college or something like that.
00:50:14.740
And they were just like, hey, we need to do trigger warnings on some of these posts now
00:50:19.860
because we want to have some sexual assault, like, month.
00:50:23.040
And I was just like – I just started trolling real hard.
00:50:46.140
But I was saying, like – like, I was telling them, like, yeah, guys, we need to have – you
00:50:49.720
need to do a trigger warning an hour before, five minutes before, 30 minutes before, on
00:50:54.520
the post, and five minutes after, and 30 minutes after.
00:50:57.820
Yeah, I was doing – because, like, these people –
00:51:00.160
And they were like, is this – I mean, is this really necessary?
00:51:02.500
Can we get some actual, like, survivors in here to, like, weigh in on this, like, whether
00:51:13.960
You cannot start setting fucking rules for everyone who's ever had sort of – like,
00:51:21.120
If you're that fragile, you have to stay off the internet.
00:51:25.800
And that's what I was trying to, like – people were like, this is a – the same
00:51:33.660
Like, there's no – this is the best – the best timing is when it is the most impactful.
00:51:39.320
The most inappropriate makes it the most funny.
00:51:41.300
But it's up to Homeboy to just block him and move on.
00:51:43.740
It's not our job to fucking defend his feelings.
00:51:48.860
Well, in fairness, though, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:51:50.520
Because the people that are going to think it's in poor taste are going to be able to
00:52:01.040
I don't think it's wrong for people to be saying it's not funny.
00:52:07.520
But people were, like, saying, like, Wooster's, like, the biggest argument, like, the best
00:52:19.700
He said, we know you're disabled, something that the kid already said about himself.
00:52:24.060
And he just made a joke that he's a minarchist, and that makes him disabled, which is very
00:52:27.500
mild, actually, compared to, like, you should kill yourself.
00:52:36.460
You can say these things aren't funny, but to say, like, you shouldn't be allowed to
00:52:41.980
say this right now, or, like, hey, guy, it's not the right time.
00:52:44.840
No, I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to say it, though.
00:52:53.480
That was totally the energy from – even from Ace.
00:53:01.420
He probably shouldn't do it, but he's not saying he shouldn't be allowed to.
00:53:10.480
This tweet really got under some of y'all's skin, man.
00:53:21.060
Well, listen, GameStop was super, super boring today, so I really needed this whole drama.
00:53:29.780
You're going to come to the defense of your friends.
00:53:31.080
I mean, I'm homies with a bunch of disabled people, too.
00:53:40.760
By the way, I did want to, like, have a segment where we go through some of our favorite towers.
00:53:45.240
So if you have some of your, like, some of you can think of, I'll look it up.
00:53:56.360
I don't know if I can find it, because that one's probably, that was, what, a week old now?
00:54:05.380
So I talked about that one on Jose's show the other day where we were talking about all towers.
00:54:13.820
So my guess was that it was on a tweet, because Meghan McCain had tweeted out a picture of her holding her daughter or whatever, up to, like, a picture of John McCain, like an oil painting or something.
00:54:25.740
So my guess was that it was on that tweet, but I'm not sure.
00:54:32.040
I still think the most legendary one, and it's not even because it's the best, is when we, on some reporter, we said enemy of the people, and she had written an article about the alt-right and, like, white nationalists.
00:54:42.400
And then she retweeted it and was like, this is what we're up against.
00:54:46.100
Like, we're, like, some terrorist organization.
00:54:49.540
I was looking at Peter North's dong while on a Zoom call, considering pulling a tube in it.
00:54:59.400
I definitely was not on a work call while looking at Peter North's dong in the Tower Gang chat.
00:55:07.120
Oh, was this a, okay, so this is a, oh, is it not a?
00:55:18.440
So, I mean, my favorite tower, though, was the, when we did the self-tower on Richie, though, which we can talk about.
00:55:35.980
Castaldo had been given an ultimatum, basically.
00:55:39.040
I think it was when he was arguing with Dave Smith, probably.
00:55:48.220
I'll tell you, it's a president, a president, yeah, A, a president who would continue all the wars, but was anti-racist.
00:55:54.440
Or B, a president who didn't want his daughter to date minorities, but would end all the wars.
00:56:09.340
So he's, he's choosing mass murder over just some father who doesn't want his daughter to date a certain way.
00:56:35.880
And then, like, Ovaltine didn't know why it had to start with A until, like, way later.
00:56:51.500
It was a play on the Joe Jorgensen tweet, the actively anti-racist one.
00:56:59.480
And then it turned out that apparently, um, Tower Gang, uh, Alpha Squad had actually.
00:57:11.300
The other Tower Gang team, they had actually done the same thing before we did.
00:57:16.380
But, in my opinion, actively pro-war was better.
00:57:27.020
Well, like, I had, I had, my other suggestions on it were, like, aiding Al-Qaeda.
00:57:40.180
Thank God we have your autism on our side, Toad.
00:57:44.720
Dude, the best parts of Tower Gang are when someone says,
00:57:56.900
I've described Tower Gang as, like, the best, most world-class comedy writing team.
00:58:10.360
Like, I fucking, I'm a huge comedy fan, and I swear to God, like, there is, there is a huge percentage of the people in, in these rooms that could, like, make careers out of this shit.
00:58:19.220
And no, and no one's doing it because we're all so fucking autistic.
00:58:24.020
It's the reason Michael Malice is in a, is in a stand-up comedian.
00:58:26.860
It's like, Michael Malice is the embodiment of Tower Gang.
00:58:31.340
Like, we want him to, we want him to recognize us.
00:58:38.600
I really don't like it whenever y'all tag Dave Smith and Tom Woods and Michael Malice.
00:58:45.500
I like it on the ones that have to do with them.
00:59:08.220
You got a Twitter four months ago and Malice already follows you?
00:59:14.240
I take a Tom Woods follow over a Malice follow.
00:59:22.060
I was going to say, if you got a Malice follow, did you freak out on Twitter so that he wouldn't ban you immediately?
00:59:32.340
Don't make fun of me, but Tom Woods followed me, and I nearly cried.
00:59:41.540
I did that when he retweeted me a couple of times.
00:59:45.080
Dude, when I retweeted my tweet, I almost freaked out.
00:59:50.260
I don't think it was, but someone, like the morning of the video that came out for part of the problem where Pete brings me up, and then Dave goes, yeah, he's great, and they go back and forth and shit.
01:00:00.660
I'm telling you, for the next two hours, my whole body had chills.
01:00:08.120
It was ridiculous because I didn't even know fucking Dave knew me.
01:00:10.260
He just started following me like three days earlier.
01:00:11.900
He spent two hours watching me debate at Neocon.
01:00:15.380
When he said that, though, the only thing I could think of was like, oh, he's watched Kevin Cassidy.
01:00:29.000
You know what would have literally driven me to suicide is if Pete was like, yeah, I was watching this thing with Liberty Lockdown, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:35.280
And he's like, yeah, that Kevin Cassidy guy, man, he kicked his ass.
01:00:41.420
Well, yeah, and at the end of that episode, I think they said that like Tower Gang is based or something.
01:00:51.420
I want to hear my funny pseudo celebrity following me story.
01:01:01.080
He was like one of the first people I discovered when I created this account on Twitter back in like January.
01:01:07.140
And I followed him and I replied to him a bunch and he followed me back.
01:01:11.140
Like we were like, like he would like some of my tweets sometimes.
01:01:15.220
And he tweeted something about Kanye West and some other rap artist that I don't know.
01:01:23.900
I don't remember the name of and he was like, you know, who would you rather have like something about who'd rather have a president.
01:01:31.440
And I was like, I'd rather not have either the delusional, you know, manic or the I insulted the other rap rapper.
01:02:05.040
And then some other account, I think it was like Hand of Glory or someone.
01:02:11.220
It was one of the guys who had like a Rothbard picture in his profile picture for a while.
01:02:15.780
And it's like someone's like, Nick, I think it was you were like Neocon.
01:02:22.420
Someone from that guy replied with, I wish Neocon was mutual with me.
01:02:30.180
And then a few seconds later, I couldn't see his account.
01:02:35.960
And he had blocked me to make room in his following list.
01:02:40.660
He said for the record, it was because of the comment about Kanye.
01:02:47.360
So fast forward to the tower we do on Tessa Duvall, enemy of the people, where she gets
01:02:52.440
all triggered and she says, hey, Twitter support.
01:03:13.360
I can't go any longer without saying, are you trying to look like Tim Pool?
01:03:22.500
If there was a Tim Pool lookalike contest, like you would at least take third.
01:03:29.240
It'd be like fifth place, but you would still place.
01:03:37.160
One of my partners who I had three times on that podcast just tweeted out that he's reading
01:03:49.600
We're going to bring him over to the dark side, though.
01:03:54.080
I didn't know if it was your dad because you always send tweets about your dad.
01:04:01.560
Whenever my dad texted me, hey, I'm listening to Scott Horton on the Tom Woods show now.
01:04:07.820
And I tweeted out a screenshot of that and it got like 200 likes.
01:04:12.460
And my dad texted me like the next day or a couple of days later, a picture of a Bob
01:04:17.380
Higgs book, a Robert Higgs book that he was reading.
01:04:19.840
And I'm like, oh, he's going to be a fucking full blown ANCAP soon, baby.
01:04:25.360
I try to get my dad to listen to, do you all follow Anarcho-Christian XP?
01:04:35.020
I was listening because my family was like super Christian conservative.
01:04:38.520
And I was like, I'm going to slide him in with Anarcho-Christian because he has like
01:04:42.960
literally Bible studies on his thing, but it brings it back to anarchism.
01:04:47.660
And like, I got him to listen to it one time on taxes.
01:04:58.800
Once I finish reading the book, I'm going to invite him on.
01:05:01.740
I know he does any show, pretty much any show that invites him on, he does.
01:05:08.280
All right, guys, we'll invite him to this show.
01:05:16.480
I listened to, on audiobook, Fool's Errand, and it made me cry three times.
01:05:25.420
It's such a, and he narrates it, too, which is great.
01:05:30.760
Yeah, I read the hard copy of Fool's Errand, so I didn't quite get the emotional punch,
01:05:50.360
My mother-in-law asked, before we were married, if I was on the spectrum.
01:05:57.440
She was like, she's a fifth-rate teacher, and she was just like, are you sure he's not?
01:06:05.820
I think if I got a psych evaluation, I would get a little bit of the tism and a little bit
01:06:30.300
Well, Asperger's, as you know, some of you might refer to them as hemorrhoids.
01:06:40.540
But no, like what Travis described on Liberty Lockdown, that was, you know, I mean, that's
01:06:48.280
Well, and I always wondered, like, I have a good sense of humor, but I still feel like
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And I always felt like, okay, that's the thing.
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I can't be autistic because I, you know, I have a good sense of humor.
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And now I'm like, I'm hanging out with all you fuckers, and I'm like, fuck, I might
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But I thought they didn't process it and, like, have a human laugh back, you know?
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Oh, I think maybe they're just saying, like, I think it depends.
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Yeah, maybe, like, on the much more, like, severe part, they start getting to where they
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don't understand it, but they stay some funny shit.
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I've tutored an autistic student before, and she was kind of funny sometimes.
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Before Tower Gang, I just, you know, found autistic children and flatulated on them.
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By the way, since this is the first episode of the Tower Power Hour, where do y'all think
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Like, do you think it's going to get, do you think it's going to get, like, wide acclaimed?
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Do you think it's going to get, catch on to where, because right now I haven't seen
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anything outside of, like, the Liberty community, like, doing Towers.
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Because people that want to call, people that want to insult these, there's plenty of people
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that want to insult all these news, like Fauci, or CNN, or Brian Stelter.
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Dude, I think it's going to go beyond politics.
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That's what I'm getting at, is it, and realizing that you could just get a group of people
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that will just type in one letter, how are they going to ban you for fucking one letter?
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Is that, see, the thing about that is, though, is it from, is it from mass reporting?
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I think there's also, these are the kinds of people who say the fucking funny shit, and
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that Twitter just brings the hammer down on them.
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Yeah, I don't think it's just, like, you get hammered, because if you just post, like,
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if you're just doing towers, I don't think you're going to get caught.
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But if, like, you're doing other stuff, and they see you're on towers, I think they'll
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Like, once I started doing towers, like, if you check your status on shadowban.eu or whatever,
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like, I've done that a few times, and I've been shadow banned multiple times.
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Right now, I don't think I am, but just the reply deboosting.
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But there have been multiple towers where suspensions happened, like, the Tessa Duvall
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one was because she, like, reported everybody, so I know, like, a couple of people that were
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in that tower got suspended, and actually, I think they lost their account.
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I tweeted, like, she blocked me because I quote tweeted it.
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My favorite one was the reverend that was blocking people for, like, just, like, insignificant
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A single letter blocked, and we double-towered him with two Bible verses that both were about,
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I went and found the verse, and we, I was like, do one about the wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Right, right, right, because I had wanted to do a second Corinthians, and you wanted to
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Wolves in sheep's clothing, and we did both towers, ultimately, but it was so awesome.
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But I really think that it's going to catch on.
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I think it's going to be like a, and I think it's not just a Twitter thing.
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You can do this on, you can do this on Instagram.
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You can do this on YouTube, and all of them will work, and it's going to be awesome if
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I mean, they're going to describe us as alt-right, but you shouldn't do it.
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No, I'm beyond caring what people think, you know.
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I don't care what people think, but I have a major issue with them fucking criminalizing
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So, like, if they're going to start having a war on terror against the alt-right, I'd
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The only axis that matters is the up-down axis, the authoritarian-libertarian axis, and
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Maybe I'm going through the fucking floor, man.
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Oh, I don't think you saw my – I remade the axis, and I put –
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I put blue-pilled at the top, red-pilled at the bottom, and on the right, I put bass.
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And in lib-right, I had sweet, and I put myself way to the bottom right past the axis.
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I had talked about doing a Twitter for the Tower Gang, just like a Twitter profile for
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You said you were going to set up a Twitter, right, for this, for the Tower Power, at
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Did you see Mayo Menger just created an account that is Tower Gang posting Ls, and it is
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Do you see that Neocon posting as Ls got suspended?
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They were dunking too hard on those – they were reposting Neocon saying that we should
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Cap, I have to ask you because I'm a strong believer that, like, you have to care about
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left and right because of – in terms of the –
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But the reason I think that it's impossible not to care about the left and right and just
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go authoritarian versus, you know, anarchy is because when you go to socialist policies,
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Yeah, you can't have property rights, it seems, unless you go to the right.
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I know this was too serious of a question given that we were just calling each other
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So the question, as I understand it, is that the right – the cultural right somewhat resembles
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a society that seems to care about property rights, and that's just not true.
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In the right, you still have things like acid forfeiture.
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You still have things like private prisons and just the mass slavery that that generates
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The actual classical political spectrum is economic left and right.
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We're not talking about – that doesn't include the cultural axis.
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In order to take the political compass test, it's the culture is left to right and –
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Ultimately, this is my problem with the political compass test because political compass –
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It's so loaded because the only axis that matters is economic, right?
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Because ultimately, a government, without any way to steal money, without any way to generate
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income and to grow and take power, there's nothing –
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The only kind of restrictions you can have are economic ones.
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But the thing about it is, if you take the – there's one called the SAPPLY, S-A-P-P-L-Y,
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SAPPLY, and that has a separate cultural axis, whether it's progressive or conservative.
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Yeah, listen, and conservative and progressive ultimately just mean do you believe in gay marriage?
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It comes down to what do you believe is a family, is like cultural right and left.
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I mean, I think that free speech is a cultural phenomenon, and we're losing that as our culture
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So that's why I've recently begun concerning myself with cultural issues far more than I
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And if you look at Dave Smith, if you look at all the big ones, they're all
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going to that cultural – like really focusing because, I mean, the economic one is almost –
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But populism is not exclusive to left or right.
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Lenin was a minarchist, but that's not the point.
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And like a Pinochet would be a hardcore elitist right-winger.
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I mean, populism is not exclusive to left or right.
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Honestly, Lenin was just as disabled as that minarchy guy.
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The Sapley political compass test because you're right.
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You could be economically right and be culturally left.
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I mean, economic right-wing is just recognizing private property and things like that.
01:16:54.340
Well, I mean, fascism is a right-wing idea, right?
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Fascism ultimately was like Mussolini and Hitler, right?
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So it's like the idea that private property is any more valuable or any more sacred in a right-wing sense.
01:17:13.440
It's just kind of like, okay, maybe, but you're just like really just like picking where you want to sleep ultimately.
01:17:20.680
There are some left-wing ideas about fascism like universal health care and state-funded education and maternity leave and things like that.
01:17:29.680
But how are those inherently left-wing ideas when the concept of fascism is a state-run industry?
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Well, the thing about it is left-wing is about equality and left-wing is about, you know, like typically, typically, left-wing deals with civil liberties, which is why some people like Dave Smith and Walter Block will say libertarianism is the third stool or the third leg on the stool.
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Anybody looking forward to the Nick Ashley and Cap?
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I think that if you follow the classical political spectrum and not taking that fucking test that everybody else takes, it's a different one.
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I have a political test that I would like us all to take if that's okay.
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Honestly, if you want to take a good one, the iSideWith.com test is really good.
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It's actually a good one because it's actually for like in America today.
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It's like looking over like actual politics and actually goes over real –
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Politics is really just the cage that we all live in, that we all navigate under.
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That is the illegitimate corporation called the government that we all seem to recognize.
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We all just allow to continue to just rape us of the fruits of our labor.
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It's just – and, you know, Clint, you're probably right ultimately about the whole cultural right versus left thing because like there are like leftists that I know that like call themselves libertarian socialists or like they call themselves anarchists.
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We like talk about shit and I like ask for an opinion.
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He believes – he's an eco-market socialist he calls himself.
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And we're like – I posted – I sent him this tweet about the United Nations was – had the Human Rights Council reviewing human rights abuses of the United States.
01:19:33.760
And they were like, such human rights leaders as North Korea, Iran.
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Fucking Syria, China, other champions of human rights, Cuba, Belarus.
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And I'm like, is this a real tweet of these real examples?
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Ultimately, the argument he came up with was like this is a guy who claims he's an anarchist.
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And he's just like, oh, yeah, but we need the UN because somebody has got to put like human rights things in check.
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Every leftist anarchist I talk to is what I'm saying.
01:20:15.840
Would you call – would you consider Emma Goldman not to be an anarchist?
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Emma Goldman was an anarchist, but she was left as it gets.
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Would you consider Emma Goldman not an anarchist?
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Do you know who Emma Goldman is and you're a fucking anarchist?
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The fucking scar is still in the back of my fucking brain from where the fiber wire was in there.
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No, I think that what some of these people don't realize those would be – like the economic systems that they promote would lead to some sort of force.
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Okay, but the thing about it is what I see a left anarchist as, like an Emma Goldman type as, is somebody who believes that an anarchist society will lead to –
01:21:13.640
I think that an anarchist – I think that an anarchist – I think that a stateless society will lead to a much more private property type of society.
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The thing about it is Emma Goldman recognized, like, look, if people want to go and do their own thing, that's fine.
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We don't recognize that individuals are beholden to what I believe in.
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I don't mind anarcho-leftists that believe that that's where it naturally leads and are okay with it being handled voluntarily.
01:21:50.640
Like, I saw a libertarian today who I unfollowed because I was so offended by it who was saying that.
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Yeah, because he said basically, like, I'm not saying you can't have your own house, but if you have a rental property, you're not occupying it.
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It's like, obviously, it's your fucking possession.
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Like, I can't fuck with lefty anarchists that go that route.
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And then I think we both started subtweeting each other.
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Like, I saw him say it's not enough to be not racist.
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The way you started it, he was like, it's not enough to be –
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Like, left libertarians who claim to be anarchists, they're all, quote-unquote, gradualists, right?
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Their solution to everything is still something that the state has to intervene to do.
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And then they believe that the state will institute this magical socialist system that will just run itself and then magically dissolve because it's no longer needed anymore.
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It was, like, they want to say, like, oh, you have to give up – like, your houses aren't yours anymore.
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I think he was implying you could just go squatting it and it becomes yours.
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I was like, squatter rights, I think, are a thing to an extent.
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It's not like you can just go in there and be like, it's mine now.
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And it has to be property that has been completely not maintained.
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And it has to – like, usually it's vacant land where people go and they squat on it.
01:24:17.080
It's not a fucking – it's not a cabin on a lake where you just walk in and go, oh, this is his fucking rental property.
01:24:22.320
So I get to go stay in it because he's not here because he's at his fucking other house in California.
01:24:25.800
You're a fucking asshole if you fucking think it's like your summer house.
01:24:31.440
And he tweeted out that other thing that was like – what was he saying?
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He was saying – he was basically implying that rent – paying rent is –
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He said, like, if ANCAPs were – if they would just convert it to – if they would call it rent instead of taxation, ANCAPs would be fine with it.
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And again, I don't want to shit on Dom, but he's wrong about that, obviously.
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I was a constitutional conservative, and I was like –
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He'll inevitably discover Bastiat or Spooner or somebody, and he'll come around.
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All that benefit of the doubt goes out the window when he was like, I was in ANCAP for three years.
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And now I'm like, y'all have, like, holes in your argument.
01:25:36.360
Keep extending the benefit of the doubt that you have, like, denied.
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That was the Austin Peterson thing of I was in ANCAP.
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Yeah, and he was just like, now I'm an actual –
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Because I watched a Larkin Rose video that he, like –
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Because apparently Austin Peterson wrote five reasons I'm not an ANCAP,
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or, like, five reasons ANCAPs are dumb or something, like five years ago.
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And Larkin Rose went through it and just ripped him in a new asshole.
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Austin was still bringing up the same points two days ago after Larkin.
01:26:20.580
Whenever I was 15 and I had my first Twitter account, I was tweeting at Phil Labonte.
01:26:27.900
And I said, you realize a lot of libertarians, quote, unquote, have a lot of the same opinions as Republicans.
01:26:35.320
What the fuck are you on about or something like that?
01:26:37.720
So somebody who sits there and says – who's 18 years old, okay?
01:26:44.320
Somebody who's 18 years old who says, oh, I was an ANCAP for – he said he was an ANCAP for three years or something like that.
01:26:55.340
Nobody is an ANCAP for three years when they're 18 years old except maybe like Drew Hancock maybe.
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Yeah, that guy – yeah, nobody is like that guy.
01:27:11.520
He has not read and parsed through and processed Rothbard and Alexander Spooner.
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Yeah, and I'm not saying that Dom is like irredeemable.
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I'm just saying I'm not going to follow him if he has takes like that for a while.
01:27:31.860
I hope he comes around, but as long as he's advocating for the theft of rental properties, I ain't fucking with it.
01:27:37.420
No, well, I do sometimes, but not when you're –
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When you're supposedly representing my ideology and you start talking about stealing people's rental properties, I just can't fuck with it.
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And I didn't even say shit because I like – I don't want to –
01:27:52.700
I don't think that he's like scum of the earth or anything.
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I'm not like calling for a mass, you know, unfollowing or anything.
01:28:12.100
Like a Proudhon and like a mutualist or whatever is what it seemed like to me.
01:28:17.200
He seems like someone who would fucking advocate the state stealing my fucking rental properties is what he sounds like.
01:28:21.180
No, I mean I thought he was a mutualist until like today.
01:28:24.160
Like I was like, okay, like if you want – if you want to say like we're just going to abolish the state.
01:28:28.520
Everybody can do – you know, go do their own thing.
01:28:30.480
You're not going to force me to be, you know, in some other economic system.
01:28:34.820
You can go over there and try whatever other economic system you want and, you know, we'll see which one actually succeeds.
01:28:42.480
But if you start taking people's fucking houses away, you are not being fine with them having a different economic model.
01:28:48.220
That bothered me a lot about what he was saying was about absent property or whatever.
01:28:52.420
It's like my car is absent like 95% of the time.
01:28:57.300
When I go out and I get my mail, my house is fucking, you know, absentee owned for a few hours 90% of the time.
01:29:10.140
Under his ideology, it would basically be legal for them to be stolen the second that they're completed construction because I couldn't –
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You know, or if I wanted to run them out, I would be stealing from the tenants.
01:29:43.260
Extremely frustrating because they're just like, why would I want to be consistent?
01:29:49.720
Well, because they'll just say you're consistently wrong.
01:29:57.940
So how about we get this wrapped up and do some plugs?
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You guys, you can find me at individualistpodcast.com.
01:30:13.420
I will be working on getting on Nick single underscore Ashley at some point in the future.
01:30:23.600
Nick underscore Ashley on Twitter, individualistpodcast.com.
01:30:54.260
So tomorrow I have Liberty Doll, who's a big YouTube star.
01:30:57.640
I have David Gornoski on Wednesday, Kerry Wedler Wednesday night.
01:31:08.040
I have Rolo and Carr coming on next Monday to talk about Bitcoin, Carr Campit, and then
01:31:18.400
And then I have Scott Horton the following day.
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And then I, and then I have Vin Armani and then I have Pete Quinonez.
01:31:25.260
And then I have Olivia and then Maggie and then Hannah Griff.
01:31:43.740
And I also, I also have an email out to Eric July.
01:31:56.520
And if you get on, if you get on Michael Malice, dude, I'm telling you.
01:32:00.320
And you know, I'm going to bring up Tower Gang too.
01:32:01.820
So you guys better fucking tell me to get him on there.
01:32:12.260
And you can find Liberty Locked down on, you know, iTunes, Spotify, everywhere else.
01:32:17.080
Yeah, I mean, for me, I'm anarcho underscore Toad on Twitter.
01:32:25.520
And I was, well, I mean, I'm part of this podcast now.
01:32:38.680
And I was just on No Way Jose with Jose Gallyson the other day.
01:32:43.840
I think that's going to drop either this week or maybe next week.
01:32:55.740
First of all, you can find this podcast on Twitter at Tower Gang Power Hour.
01:33:02.720
So if you go to twitter.com slash Tower Gang Power Hour, you can find us.
01:33:10.020
I also just started a sub stack called Anarcho Stoicism.
01:33:16.260
I'm just going to be writing about my thoughts as I process through some of the classic literature.
01:33:20.600
Like I'm reading through Chaos by, or not Chaos, Choice by Robert Murphy right now.
01:33:25.020
I'm reading through The Concept of the Political by Carl Schmidt.
01:33:28.660
I'm reading through some of Tom Woods' free e-books also.
01:33:39.320
Well, I'm your host of Tower Gang Power Hour, I guess.
01:34:00.660
Hopefully I'm going to get this uploaded to the Tower Power Hour Gang.
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I'm going to try to upload at least every Friday.
01:34:14.840
Maybe we can start doing some doubles or something.
01:34:19.120
So this is hopefully kind of how it's going to go.
01:34:21.640
We'll have different people rotating in and out.
01:34:23.520
Probably me, maybe Toad are probably going to probably be on every one at least.
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But then we're going to rotate a bunch of people out and get different guests on here.