Ep 27 - The Milking Table w⧸ Jason Cave
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 34 minutes
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204.57182
Hate Speech Sentences
101
Summary
Fat Dave and Jose are joined by fellow conservative comedian Jason Cave to talk about 9/11, baseball, and more. Fat Dave is joined by comedian and friend of the show Jason Cave, who is not Dave Smith.
Transcript
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Women jerk off dicks like fucking they're an unruly ferret.
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You see, the socialists don't have an accurate answer for this, and she needs to account for it.
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We can stay horny and retarded longer than she can stay sane.
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Ben, maybe you could say we had sex, but we didn't fuck.
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And we have a new intro, or an intro at all this time, which is from Dickie Walnuts, who
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He's at Pine underscore underscore Barron's on Twitter, I believe.
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Yeah, I'm a piece of shit, because he totally asked me to do a shout-out for him, because
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And I told him, I was like, I'll do my best, but I'm really bad about forgetting when people
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Because I've had people do shit like this before, where they'll do some little thing.
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They'll be like, oh, just give me a shout-out or something.
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I'm like, I'm going to totally forget and feel like a piece of shit.
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Anyway, I'm toad back with everybody, as always.
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Clint, Liberty Lockdown back again with his new audio setup.
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And we have our guest for tonight, Jason Cave, the other Christian comedian, Christian
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So, I was like, I thought you fucked it up, Toad, because on my end, it just showed y'all.
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And then, like you just said, your browser cannot play video.
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And so, I'm kind of pissed off right now, because I really want to – I mean, I've watched
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But, yeah, I don't know why it did that for me.
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Oh, that's weird, because, I mean, I wonder if it's because – I mean, whatever.
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This is, like, inside baseball stuff, because we're all – some of us actually have access
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to the account, and we're the ones that seem to have seen it, so.
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I don't have access, and I was able to see it, so I don't know.
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Jason, I think I missed part of it, and it just popped up, like, halfway through.
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I was hearing it, but I couldn't see it for, like, the first of it.
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I'm actually on my laptop, but it's shitty, so.
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Speaking of incoming, you see those Afghanis fucking go splat?
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I don't mean to make light of it, but that's what we do here, so I'm going to make jokes
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What – how is it that we managed to fuck this up so badly?
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I know we don't like talking about serious shit, but what the hell happened?
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So, apparently, this is kind of what the U.S. military does.
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Like, whenever they leave somewhere, they just leave all their shit because it costs
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more to bring it back than it does to just buy new shit.
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Well, I'll grant you it's probably economically wise, but tactically it seems insane.
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Like, the Taliban now has, like, F-16 training protocol shit.
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And I think both sides picked up a bunch of U.S. arms in Iraq, Syria, like Al-Qaeda got
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a hold of a bunch of it, and it wasn't the stuff that the U.S. was actually intentionally
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And then I think, like, the Shiite side actually also wound up with a bunch of it.
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No, I think they do it everywhere, but I don't know why.
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I think it's – I mean, also, you're thinking of it from the perspective of you want the
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war to be over, or you're trying to think tactically.
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I mean, not saying they're doing it on purpose, but incentive-wise, it's like there is a pretty
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decent incentive to leave your future enemies with a little bit of thing to play with for
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Yeah, that's actually what I'm hinting at, is that I think it's intentional.
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As retarded as it sounds, I think they really did think that the Afghan military was going
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to, like, you know, take over and be, like, totally fine and be like, okay, we'll take
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care of these things, and then they just, like, straight up gave up within a day, so – which
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probably should have been foreseen by the U.S., but, I mean, we've been there for 20
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I just don't understand how people that are on the ground, you know, generals and whatnot,
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can allow this stuff to happen, whereas us, armchair quarterbacking this from, you know,
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San Diego, California, I can tell you that, like, the Taliban's going to take over.
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If you leave any serious equipment behind, it'll eventually end up in their hands.
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Every single engagement we get into, we always leave the shit behind.
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It's also – again, I think it even goes back to just the logistics thing.
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Like, they were like, okay, you have – I don't know how – you have a month to get
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out of here, where they're like, well, it'll take us three months to just pack up all the
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shit we have, so if we have a month to get out.
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They knew since fucking December that they were getting out.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm more with Clint on this, and I think it's less white-pilling for me
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than it is for Fat Dave, where I think that there's more malicious intent behind a lot
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of it, and that's what I attribute a lot of it to, and I think it's, well, if we leave
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these arms here, we know that the Taliban is going to –
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They've done this every time after war, though.
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Did we lose Jason, or is he having, like, a seizure or something?
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He looks like E.T. asking for fucking Reese's Pieces.
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Hopefully he comes back, so we don't have another Modesture.
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But no, like, I think, like, they intentionally do it to some degree so that they know that
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they'll always have an excuse to leave military presence there or to go back there whenever
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I can't come up with a better idea because it – like, I grant you, Fat Dave, that it's
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certainly – it certainly does make better financial sense, especially if you consider
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that they're doing it for the military-industrial complex.
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You're not going to – you're going to want to have to buy all new arms, so, like, you're
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But it's so catastrophic, and I don't know how they justify it, you know, on a PR level.
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Like, it just – it looks and sounds so horrible to do this, and they do it over and over again.
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Especially when they're, like – there's, like, huge warehouses full of just guns, and
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And I've seen stuff where they – well, so what they're supposed to do, apparently,
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is actually bend all – like, they're supposed to bend all of the barrels on every weapon
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and do all a bunch of shit to make it where you can't use them, but they just don't, that
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I guess they don't have time to or they don't give a fuck to.
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But also, I've seen that whenever you – like, these get sold to the black market or take – or
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one of the Taliban does, they get sold to black market by the kilogram.
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So you just come up, and you just, like, grab whatever you want, throw it on a scale, and
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then you pay by the kilogram, which is insane to think about.
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Actually, Top's point there has me really concerned, that either it's for an engagement
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at home because they think shit's about to pop off, or it's to engage China or some other
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He said by September 11th, we were going to be out.
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And you don't have any – you don't have any structure set up to get your allies,
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your troops, your weaponry out of there in time?
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He looked like E.T., but doubting whether or not we'd be able to get him back home.
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And we've heard this before about how they're going to bring the military –
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I'm very doubtful of the whole thing of the –
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I do think that the war on terror is going to start moving inwards,
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but I am doubtful, at least at this current juncture,
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the whole like we're going to bring them and have them come fuck with the people,
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I mean, most people know I just got out fucking –
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I mean, I was in the Air Force, so it's a little bit different.
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It's very much like the culture we have right here in the show of like dick farts
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Although there has been a push since probably –
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So, I was in for a while and like, yeah, there was a –
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especially around 2014, there was a big push to start being like way more PC
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and more corporate and it never really quite took,
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And I do – I've been noticing more and more of it
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and that was not the reason I got out but one of the reasons.
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but, I mean, that is something that's possible in the future.
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It's just pretty funny that they think they're going to make like a bunch of
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usually the most – not Chad, but just like bro-bro guys
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that are 18 years old coming to the military and be like,
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Dude, I'm telling you though, the ones coming in now are fucking fags.
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Like, I mean, that's kind of what I was getting at
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where they have kind of flipped the incentives a little bit.
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And I'm speaking from someone who's in the Air Force,
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So, I mean, I was like – I was blue-collar type shit.
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But like – so, it wasn't like I was working in finance or some shit.
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I mean, maybe it's just an effect of being a fucking old curmudgeonly fuck.
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But like the longer I was in, the more I noticed that the newer –
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And so, I mean, it's partially the culture they've created too.
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For example, we used to have – like at my shop, we used to have these stickers
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We were called – of Donger the Maintenance Unicorn.
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And like the stickers were all over the building.
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Because that's just the kind of – that's what we were like.
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And they started freaking out around that time being like anything like that.
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So they had to rip – we had to go around and like rip them all off the walls.
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And like, yeah, we got people who got like kicked out for like drawing dicks in the aircraft forms,
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which is like where you track maintenance and shit.
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Like – so like they got – but at the same time, that culture still exists.
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So what does this have to do with feminism in Afghanistan?
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The unicorn should be called Dinger and not Donger.
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It's just they don't have the capacity for it at this very moment, in my opinion.
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Well, see, I think that the, you know, the uptick in CRT training, the fact that they're mandating vaccines,
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I think that that's going to push a lot of the more gangster people out of the military over time.
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The only reason I'm concerned, the only reason I agree with Cole,
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that this could be the sign of them actually ramping up for a homegrown conflict
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Because if they do that, it will get, there will be some action.
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And I think that there's a potential that that's what they're planning in September.
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I'm not saying it's likely, but I think it's worth being concerned.
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Real quick, I don't mean to cut you off, but I saw, I think it was Typo shared some shit a while ago.
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And I feel like I've, from my knowledge of being in, it seems plausible.
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I've heard that if you, because they're about to start mandating it, if you know someone in the military who's unhappy with it,
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because that's a frequent thing, because it's not just easy to get out of the military.
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There are plenty of people who want to be out and want to be out now.
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I have heard rumors that if you refuse to get the vaccine, boom, out with an honorable discharge.
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Yeah, which, well, I mean, that sounds silly, but like, for anyone who's been in, you know,
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if you get out with like a dishonorable, good luck getting a job anywhere.
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So like, it really is pretty crucial to get out, which an honorable, it doesn't really mean that much.
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It just means you basically did what you were supposed to do and got out.
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Yeah, but no, so for anyone who knows anyone in the military who's wanting to get out or is in the same case themselves,
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look into that, and that's a good way to do it.
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Jason, Jason, as a Christian comedian, how funny was it when you saw the Afghanis jumping from the plane?
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He's actually in Afghanistan right now, by the way.
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Yeah, well, you want me to answer that honestly?
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Like, as a Christian, it's like, oh, they're all going to hell, so.
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All right, that was worth having you on, just that.
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Your latency is horrific, brother, so I don't know what we're going to do here.
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It's actually good for him because they're not made any of that scene there, so.
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Wait, what, what, did anyone read the feed of that British dude?
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I mean, I was going to say that they are, I think we know that they're turning the war
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on terror inward because they're telling you that they are.
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John Brennan said it outright on national television.
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Biden's first day in office, he fucking put a report out on it.
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So, yeah, of course, they're serious about that shit.
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But, Jason, as the resident expert on caves, could you tell us, how was it living with
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Yeah, the second, we have another monstery moment.
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Hey, Toad, I hate to do it, but we got to kick him.
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I mean, you can't have any comedic chemistry with someone with a 10-second delay.
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Jason, we would love to get you back on again whenever you're not in Afghanistan.
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I mean, I feel like, to be fair, we should give him one more chance.
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By the way, I have been a huge proponent that this is a white pill of getting out of Afghanistan,
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And I was trying to make this argument online because I was saying we have a bunch of things
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that have happened in the past week, like literally week, that are huge white pills.
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We have fucking Jack Dorsey tweeting out Anatomy of the State, which was insane to see.
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Then he tweeted out what happened in 1971, which is – that's the one – like if Anatomy of the State
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is inside baseball to most people, what happened in 1971 is even more inside baseball.
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Jack's making a list right now, and you're fucking on it.
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Honestly, this was the black-pilled argument was like, y'all trust him, da-da-da-da-da-da.
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And it's like, no, I don't trust anything he's doing.
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I'm just saying it's awesome for someone with that amount of followers to tweet out a link
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to probably the most impactful book I've ever read.
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Regardless of his intentions, who gives a shit?
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This is just hopeful that a thousand new people read the book.
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I mean, if a chick shows me her chance because she hates me, I'll take it.
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It had like, what, like 9,000, 10,000 retweets?
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The same thing with, because people were telling me today, like, I was big on that.
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It's a white pill that we're getting out of Afghanistan.
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And the biggest white pill to me was that Biden, even though I fucking hate him, he's,
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I mean, he could be lying through his teeth the whole time.
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But he said it, it came from the horse's mouth, that the nation building didn't work at all.
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And to me, that just means, okay, well, then at least a million people are going to hear that this didn't work at all.
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I saw some Afghanis moving at about 260 miles per hour that would agree with that.
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But 20 years, 20 years we're there just to see people fucking clinging to the landing gear of freighter planes as we fucking hightail it out of it.
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I mean, because I have my opinion, and I feel like a lot of people are, not to throw off the vibe, but a lot of people are lambasting.
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But I watched a little clip, and I did not really.
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She's actually 20, and she was a Trump supporter as of a year ago.
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People were giving Riley shit, too, though, and I didn't get that.
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I felt like she handled that very well for someone who clearly didn't understand the topic that well.
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She seemed to be like, oh, I don't really know.
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Like, how did she not immediately come to Rothbard's defense?
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But she kind of played the, well, I'll have to look into that.
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And that's completely fair for something you don't know.
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He probably had some, like, in today's society, some fucked up views on race.
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Like, that's not something to take away from him.
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If we're going to do that, everybody born before 1930 should be condemned.
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So, I mean, he probably was a little bit racist.
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Yeah, but her point, Olivia's point was that he, like, he actually wrote some racist shit.
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I assume she read some hit piece based off of 90s Rothbard and concluded inappropriately.
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No, she was totally, she just had it completely wrong.
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And I think she was actually talking about Douglas Murray's The Bell Curve.
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It's a lesser known fact that Rothbard did the monkeys in the bed little nursery rhyme thing.
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So, that might be what they were talking about.
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She has recently converted and joined the Mises caucus.
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If she has a shitty take on Rothbard or any of our other heroes, just correct her.
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Just tell her that that's wrong and this is why.
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I don't understand how everyone's like, no, we have to block her.
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We have to fucking shit on anybody that's had her.
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If she's been on any of your shows, you're fucking an idiot for having had her.
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And does she have some anger towards white people for racism?
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Like, it's so crazy to me that people expect purity when someone just found this ideology like six months ago.
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She said she was converted because of Maj Ture, myself, and Reed Coverdale.
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Yeah, Maj Ture is the one who's been around the longest out of all of y'all.
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And you're going to scare her off along with how many people that she might have brought in?
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Like, this is just counterproductive at its core.
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And I hope people can take a breath, take a step back, please.
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I don't think you understand this because I heard that when Rothbard was writing Anatomy of the State, he was just listening to the Song of the South on repeat.
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He was watching Birth of a Nation with Woodrow Wilson.
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I had originally thought that she was, like, maybe talking about his right-wing populism, which is the thing that he gets the most shit for.
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But there's nothing really race-related in that, as far as I remember.
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I think it's all, like, it's the unleash the cops thing, like, clean up the streets, get rid of the homeless people from the streets, that type of stuff.
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A lot of people say it's dog whistle, like, dog whistle white racist is light stuff, which I don't agree with.
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But that is also the thing that it's, like, how he's signaling to the racist people.
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And when Dave, during the riots last summer, he brought up 90s Rothbard, and he talked about how he thought that Rothbard was correct.
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And I still think that there is some room for disagreement there.
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Like, I actually pushed back because Dave said he wanted security in the streets and for the businesses by any means necessary.
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I thought that language was very dangerous because it implies that you're basically giving the cops a green light to fucking shoot people.
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I mean, and if they're not violent, I wouldn't want to go that route.
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So I don't think Dave obviously meant that either, but I'm just saying that language can leave a very wide door open, especially when you're dealing with the state.
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You normally want to be more cautious with what you're allowing you to do.
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The slippery slope argument actually does work for the state.
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It's not like it's a 100% oddest take you can have.
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Yeah, I remember that he said that when it was that group of, I don't know if you want to call them rioters or whatever, Black Lives Matter protesters that surrounded Rand Paul and his wife.
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Yeah, and they weren't letting him go anywhere.
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And I think one of them shoved Rand Paul like into his wife or into one of the cops or whatever.
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So I would agree with Dave as far as like, yes, I think it was a good thing that the cops kind of maintained that situation and like protected people from getting injured.
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I don't know if I would go so far as to use that language.
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I mean, I think Dave was just a little bit pissed.
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But I just remember I tweeted at him and that was like probably the only time I've disagreed with Dave on anything.
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I mean, that the bar owner in Dallas that went out there with like the samurai sword and then got fucking stomped out by like eight black dudes.
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And like I can understand going like, where are the cops?
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But at the same time, if he went out there with a chainsaw, they all want to run away.
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I knew when you were going, I was like, don't, don't hit the Codog.
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Right when you said I knew exactly what you're talking about.
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Like it's in the first time this point's been made.
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But with Maj and how he got like he talks a certain way.
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And it's like and they always want to like play these SJW bullshit and appeal to like minorities or claim to.
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But it's like when they have a minority, they run off.
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It's the same thing with young people, which is like with Olivia.
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And she fucking like, yeah, a young person is inherently probably going to be.
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If anything, somebody like Drew Hancock kind of blows my fucking mind because it's like, dude, you're like 21 and you're not a fucking retard.
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Like I like and like, yeah, I'm jealous of him because I see him and being like, how the fuck did you have it so right at this age?
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You know, but somebody like Olivia, it's like she fucking like is young.
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She didn't really have a clear idea of what she was talking about.
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It was more just kind of like, well, I think, you know, like I don't remember.
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And yeah, this is the same kind of cancel culture shit that we just read the LP of.
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But from, you know, booting all the loser brigade out was now.
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Now we're going the opposite direction where we have people that are like super based, also wanting to cancel people because they're not they're not based enough or they have one bad take.
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It's like, OK, look, I understand she was wrong.
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I think she would admit it, too, if we got to talk.
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But that's not a reason to just be like she she can no longer talk to anybody.
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I'm just saying have a little bit of fucking grace, like give people room to grow.
00:27:56.620
And and this is exactly why I was so upset, because all of the people that are obsessed with race in the LP, they they're upset with Maj Trey and Hotep Jesus.
00:28:05.580
Like the two guys, the two biggest black names out there that are trying to get involved.
00:28:12.260
And Hotep says some true things about Jewish people.
00:28:23.220
I mean, I'm actually I'm actually surprised that like the loser brigade types wouldn't be going after Olivia, because if you watch that clip, she actually said that she was saying, oh, like Rothbard was racist, which she got that wrong.
00:28:35.900
She was actually talking about the bell curve, which was not Rothbard.
00:28:38.320
But she actually basically said that it wasn't a total disqualifier as well and said that, oh, if he has these really great ideas, then we will praise him for that or something like that.
00:28:47.920
That's that seemed to be what she was actually saying.
00:28:51.520
I can't wait for the figure terrians to like be like, by the way, do you know this guy named Rockwell?
00:29:07.180
I really don't think Jason finds us very amusing.
00:29:26.980
Jason makes me feel like we have to be funnier.
00:29:36.500
Like the worst thing you could tell another person is good job.
00:29:43.400
Which, by the way, another person, another person that just like chill out on is Jack.
00:29:51.520
Don't like be like in the comments going like, well, he's probably doing this because he actually doesn't like he doesn't fucking matter.
00:29:58.280
Like he tweeted out anatomy of the state to millions of people and I mean, and then he tweeted out what happened in 1971.
00:30:06.080
He got Rothbard trending with the anatomy of the state one.
00:30:08.920
Rothbard was trending probably for the first time ever.
00:30:11.500
I don't think Rothbard has probably ever trended before.
00:30:17.360
Now, if you want to be the fucking super cynical, pessimistic guy, sure.
00:30:34.000
We know that on Twitter, people get blocked for the dumbest of shit.
00:30:40.780
I'll call Jack a hypocrite and that he may have, I don't know how much he actually has input in what Twitter does and who they block and whatever.
00:30:48.240
But like if he has any kind of say in it, he's an idiot and he's fucked it up and he doesn't do what Rothbard would want.
00:30:55.560
But still, he's still treated up about Ananomy of the State, which if you haven't read, you should read because it's probably one of the best things written about libertarian theory for a while.
00:31:06.940
You're like, maybe your ex-girlfriend's sister is only banging you to get back at her sister.
00:31:17.280
Although I do agree with what you're saying here, though.
00:31:19.880
If the result of this is that thousands more people read Ananomy of the State or know who Rothbard is, I don't really give a shit why Jack tweeted it out.
00:31:32.660
I saw people who were like, oh, maybe like four people read it.
00:31:37.000
There was a lot of people going, oh, what is this?
00:31:39.700
And then there was other people like, here's, I just read it.
00:31:48.200
And people who think that Jack had some evil notion after tweeting that out, like he was motivation, he's trying to get libertarians, I think that's stupid.
00:31:57.440
Like, from everything I see, like, Jack, he tries to present, at least the way he presents himself, is someone who likes to be knowledgeable of a bunch of other things.
00:32:04.800
So he probably just read it, said, oh, this is interesting.
00:32:07.560
Even if he doesn't agree with it, I'm going to tweet it out and let other people see this and see what they think, too.
00:32:12.480
Because that just honestly seems like his personality.
00:32:15.080
And I don't, there's no, there's nothing, there's nothing but something good can happen from him tweeting that out.
00:32:21.040
Well, and also, if you, if you're that cynical, how do you not know that Twitter is already running algos to know all of us, where we live, what we're about, what we think, how dangerous we are, reading our DMs, plotting to fucking come and kidnap us in the middle of the night, black helicopters outside, I have the documents.
00:32:42.460
So, like, oh, yeah, because we hit like when you tweeted out.
00:32:50.400
I didn't know who the libertarians were before, because it's not like they talk.
00:32:56.260
Do you know how many blue checks I've alluded violence to, and you're really going to fucking,
00:33:00.240
you're really going to get all fucking uppity about this?
00:33:04.660
Yeah, we were bullying that journal all last week.
00:33:10.140
Yeah, I tried to bully her again, like, yesterday or two days ago, but it didn't work out as much.
00:33:14.880
But I, or it actually may have been a day, but she was awesome.
00:33:28.340
She tweeted out that, what, she saw some, there was some drunk chick in the bathroom with her at some concerts.
00:33:39.180
And then one of you guys, I think Cole, maybe one of you guys, quote tweeted and said, this means you're never having any children.
00:33:44.940
Yeah, I said, please marry her so you'll never procreate.
00:33:50.140
To her benefit, if she's a lesbian, she's one of those, like, mythical hot ones.
00:33:54.360
Like, she's not that hot, but if she's gay, it kind of adds a point or two, you know?
00:34:02.160
And she'd probably, I don't trust her motives at all.
00:34:06.680
I mean, if I was drunk enough, I'd probably do that.
00:34:20.680
It really depends on how you define sex, really, is whether they...
00:34:42.060
Penetration seems to be, like, the common answer, man.
00:34:52.800
Like, if you get caught, like, if you're eating a chick out and someone walks in, you
00:35:12.320
But if someone else says, like, someone just walked in on me, hooking up with it.
00:35:15.500
Like, is hooking up in sex, like, what is, like, the definition of what you mean?
00:35:26.720
I look at this in the context of a married guy.
00:35:29.040
So, like, if I ate my wife out and then, like, the next day I was trying to, like, get
00:35:33.840
all up on her and she was like, oh, we fucked yesterday.
00:35:45.080
Yeah, if she blew you yesterday, then would you say the same thing the next day?
00:35:52.620
If you got a blow, you might be like, okay, I think we can...
00:36:11.860
Tom Segura, like, Christina P, says that he gets milked every 72 hours.
00:36:21.140
And, like, every 72 hours, that's a good rhythm.
00:36:23.940
Like, as a single guy unmarried, you're probably like, what the fuck?
00:36:27.880
If I could get milked every 72 hours and, like, I had some sort of contract that held
00:36:31.760
to that, like, dude, like, you'd think marriage would be that contract.
00:36:39.900
Milking isn't that specifically, though, you have to be lying on top of a table that
00:37:09.260
I'm very familiar with the genre, and it is a milking table, Toad.
00:37:16.100
You can still be milked without a table, you unbelievable pervert.
00:37:25.700
Because you don't want to see her, that filthy animal.
00:37:28.860
I saw the milking table shit before, and I was like, that looks fucking delightful.
00:37:33.000
Like, just laying there, like, fucking just getting stuck.
00:37:37.200
Is if you were getting a massage at the same time.
00:37:41.760
I've always told my wife I want that three-way.
00:37:43.320
Some, like, little Asian woman to rub me off while she sucks me off.
00:37:46.800
And you can have that, but it's a dude that's giving you the massage.
00:37:49.260
The dude is giving you a massage, but it's a woman underneath.
00:37:55.380
Stronger hands, so it can really get into your shoulders.
00:38:01.920
It would actually almost have to be a dude, really.
00:38:05.180
It doesn't make it a really comfortable table, though, because otherwise you're planking,
00:38:12.300
So you're stiff, and you have a stiffy at the same time.
00:38:21.120
You're not breaking your boner on, like, a wooden board or something, but, like, the
00:38:33.720
If there was no hole, you'd be doing cock push-ups, so...
00:38:36.900
By the way, also, there's another person that Dr. Drew talks about him and his wife.
00:38:47.300
You know that I have Debra Pinsky scheduled to come on my show, his wife.
00:38:55.660
Oh, dude, we talked, like, in depth about her sex life on the roof in Tennessee.
00:39:04.060
Like, I swear, I pray she has as many drinks as she did that night on my show, because
00:39:18.460
It's just funnier to hear her perspective on that shit.
00:39:20.880
She said so much crazy shit I can't even, like, bring up, because I'll blow my opportunity
00:39:25.900
I want to ask a doctor about ass-to-penis ratio, so that's what I really want to talk about
00:39:33.220
It would be amazing to have on Tower Power Hour Dr. Drew's wife giving a detailed breakdown
00:40:03.080
Aprepos donated it, and they said, I would rather invade Afghanistan again than listen to
00:40:12.740
We're not going to keep up with this, so you should probably just watch it on YouTube.
00:40:22.780
But I do work to get it out on the audio feeds?
00:40:25.760
Some of these episodes, they get wild with the fucking...
00:40:28.680
with the super chats, like the fucking shoe episode.
00:40:33.860
Yeah, we just have to get a 1.6 million follower person back on again.
00:40:39.180
I was going to say, that was kind of an outlier.
00:40:52.860
By the way, what did you think of the response to the shoe episode?
00:40:57.080
Yeah, I was respecting much more backlash, even though I feel like we got a little bit.
00:41:01.520
I feel like part of our success has been built off of being masters at dealing with that
00:41:08.260
We're going to turn it and make it into a benefit for us.
00:41:14.160
Because she posted that clip when we were talking about privatizing the police.
00:41:19.580
And her followers are all fucking socialist bitches.
00:41:30.380
It was that same dude who said that he was going to shoot the unvaccinated, right?
00:41:33.800
The dude who's running for a California Congress position or something.
00:41:41.000
Oh, no, that was the guy that Reid was fucking with.
00:41:44.500
I thought he was in Shoe's comments blasting the...
00:41:48.780
I think it was him blasting the privatization of the police.
00:41:53.940
And Twitter was like fucking up because he had already blocked me for the other shit.
00:41:57.640
And I was still able to see one of his tweets and quote tweet it.
00:42:02.560
He was complaining about privatizing the police.
00:42:04.180
And I said something like rich elites will bash privatization of the police while they live in their gated communities that have armed security guards and go to work at buildings that have armed security guards or something like that.
00:42:31.200
So obviously the one that isn't monetized is Ryan Dawson's is not monetized.
00:42:37.980
There was some other ones that didn't, but most of the new ones are still monetized still.
00:42:49.460
I think that's a reference to the Slurp Gang intro.
00:42:53.280
I think people are just going to keep doing that now.
00:43:03.320
I do want to say, though, like, a lot of people were...
00:43:09.100
And, like, I feel like we really hit on something.
00:43:13.960
Not to be, like, we're so above, like, we're doing some great shit.
00:43:18.000
But I feel like we're kind of weirdly making shit happen because people enjoy, like, hanging out with us and shit.
00:43:26.460
Like, we were able to talk to her in a completely friendly way.
00:43:29.640
She seemed much more amenable to these ideas, which she clearly, to be honest, didn't seem to have thought much on.
00:43:43.440
Which is pretty funny now because anything libertarian comes up, the town gang Twitter gets tagged by her.
00:43:57.280
But, no, I do think there's something, too, that, like, being able to interact with people in a fun way.
00:44:04.880
This is the main fucking flaw in libertarianism.
00:44:08.880
Is that so many of you are autistic and don't have a sense of humor.
00:44:16.020
So, if you have a problem with our show because we bring on people that aren't ideologically pure, you are watching the wrong show.
00:44:23.200
That's what we're here to do is to joke with people and make shit fun.
00:44:30.200
I'm like, we don't have on just fucking end caps.
00:44:38.340
It's like, if everybody you're going to talk to is an end cap, like, you can only be friends with libertarians.
00:44:44.360
All my friends in real life, I would not have any friends in real life because none of my friends are libertarians.
00:44:58.880
It's like, oh, yeah, you were, like, I'm rubbing off on you.
00:45:01.620
You hate, like, he just says, I hate the government, blah, blah, blah.
00:45:03.600
And then he just says something about how that status.
00:45:06.520
It's like, if you own a purity test, then you're going to have no friends or family and you can't have a relationship with anybody.
00:45:13.580
No, and I mean, you're younger, so I'm going to give you some slack.
00:45:16.960
But I have converted basically every single friend I have in my life into being at least a quasi-libertarian person.
00:45:23.440
Oh, they're all closer than what they were when I started hanging out with them.
00:45:28.540
Well, once you're fucking old and gray like me, they'll probably all be libertarians.
00:45:33.840
But my point is you don't have to beat people over the head with this shit.
00:45:36.840
If you can show that your life is fun and you are also right about everything, people will eventually start listening to you.
00:45:45.520
But you don't have to be, like, all curmudgeonly and shit down people's throats when they say one wrong opinion.
00:45:51.400
Like, get on there and, like, someone says something stupid and you fucking shit on them.
00:45:54.560
But if you're talking to, like, if I have somebody on the podcast, I'm going to be friendly with them.
00:46:00.460
I mean, we might get into, like, a little bit of, like, okay, here's what you think.
00:46:04.360
But I'm not going to be like, no, you're fucking wrong.
00:46:08.180
Like, if someone, like, she talked about health care, I'm not going to be like, actually, you're killing people because of government health.
00:46:13.920
I'm not going to say that to, like, to somebody.
00:46:16.380
Also, by the way, Dickie Walnut said, should I make weekly high art reels from each episode?
00:46:30.320
And what I found out was he was doing it all from his phone somehow.
00:46:33.720
If he could do it not on his phone, because the video quality is pretty low, even though the cut, the edit is a banger.
00:46:41.600
But if you actually see it on the big screen, it's, like, it's all pixelated.
00:46:48.040
I was like, our quality's not that bad on our show.
00:46:52.220
And then Dickie goes and gets naked in the hot tub with Fat Dave all the time.
00:47:02.660
Oh, I mean, it's, I mean, it's usually we swap weekends.
00:47:08.100
Do you guys have foursomes or do your wife swap?
00:47:18.980
The only thing that tries to touch is our balls.
00:47:27.840
Not to go too debaucherous, but have you guys ever seen, like, a porn where the chick takes
00:47:31.380
two dicks and stuff in her mouth at the same time?
00:47:39.900
The worst is when a girl is in a gangbang and she takes a load in the mouth and then
00:47:44.340
she goes to the next dude and starts blowing him.
00:47:51.880
How many men does it actually take for it to be Bukkake?
00:48:06.060
If the cast of TPH did it, it would be classified as Bukkake.
00:48:10.640
Ooh, we got some shithole money from Fred the Staller.
00:48:18.280
You guys are seeing a dangerous precedent here now.
00:48:22.520
Said me and Fat Dave keep our socks on at least.
00:48:27.840
Also, seeing a dude's dick also makes you last longer because-
00:48:39.000
I thought you were wearing your socks on your dicks like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
00:48:46.280
We keep it on our hands because we can't touch the other's wife with our actual skin.
00:48:56.040
You're like, I'm going to fuck your wife way harder than you fuck mine.
00:49:00.300
Speaking of Jesus, Jason, what kind of threesomes are you into?
00:49:19.740
Just sit there with a stupid fucking good on your face as I ask you really serious questions.
00:49:34.640
So I think, Jason, until you get where you're not frozen, I'll kind of give my anecdote.
00:49:39.760
I was like race Christian, like super Christian conservative.
00:49:42.820
And I did actually hear the leave room for Jesus.
00:49:53.220
No, the six, we, we, we, we practice social, we actually did practice social distancing before it was cool.
00:49:59.560
Like whenever, like in high school, there was a six inch rule.
00:50:02.760
You could not get within six inches of another woman, the opposite gender.
00:50:11.580
Fuck, marry, kill IRS, Federal Reserve, or the CIA?
00:50:21.080
You definitely marry the CIA because they have all of like the, they have cool shit.
00:50:25.080
So you'd be able to fuck around with their like.
00:50:27.700
All you have to do is kill the Federal Reserve and the rest fall.
00:50:30.120
Oh, I was going to say, you definitely kill the Fed.
00:50:37.440
Yeah, you fuck the IRS, kill the Fed, and marry the CIA.
00:50:51.640
I met Homeboy and his cute little daughter in some city in Texas.
00:51:12.340
I mean, maybe because we're in high school, we're not all the way fully grown yet.
00:51:20.600
She said, you can still do a lot with six inches.
00:51:34.240
I feel like every inch over six inches is just like, that's where you really get the
00:52:04.740
I mean, based on how short the rest of us are, I think Clint has to be the answer.
00:52:34.040
Have you guys ever seen Shorty Mac, the porn star?
00:52:39.480
Jason's the unsuspecting guy that's just got a fucking hog on him.
00:52:47.800
Jason's like 5'10", 140 pounds, and like 18 inches of dong.
00:53:03.480
I don't know if we got, did we get to the autism one yet?
00:53:08.840
Jason, you definitely played basketball in Christian school, didn't you?
00:53:25.780
I mean, when I was, I, eight to ten years ago, I could dunk.
00:53:41.040
I can still hang on the rim, but I've never been able to dunk.
00:53:50.860
Clint, you have hops because you play sand volleyball, don't you?
00:53:55.860
I can actually jump higher now than when I was a kid, but I, and I'm 39, which is really
00:54:02.020
The best I ever did was dunk a, like a volleyball.
00:54:18.560
Well, I wanted to know while Jason is here, how the whole comedy thing has been going
00:54:43.520
Tone, stop trying to add on to other people's jokes.
00:55:02.540
That's why Clint does all the comedic liberty podcasts.
00:55:10.540
People have given Reed and Clint shit about it, too.
00:55:17.420
We were like 50 subscribers, and five people showed up for the streams or whatever.
00:55:23.740
I'm just here because I know that one day this will blow up, and I'm trying to ride
00:55:37.440
I was on because it was a group chat, and I thought you guys were fucking brilliant in
00:55:41.620
the group chat, and I was like, let's see how fucking funny these dudes are in person.
00:55:47.560
You guys always do Monday nights, like go up against Legion of Skanks, like trying to
00:55:55.880
I never thought about that, but that's 100% going to...
00:55:58.360
No, actually, the reason we picked Mondays was because Josh Smith said, hey, Monday's
00:56:03.860
the only day I have off, so I'll do it on Monday.
00:56:12.200
That motherfucker doesn't come on for 20 episodes, and then he swoops in, and he's
00:56:24.300
My goal in life now is to make Fat Dave a larger profile than Real Dave.
00:56:28.920
That way, Dave would be the charity of Fat Dave.
00:56:34.720
We're never going to out-funny Legion of Skanks, but we can out-autistic them.
00:56:42.580
All three of them seem a little bit autistic, too.
00:56:56.720
Yo, Dickie, clip that and send it to Legion of Skanks.
00:57:00.580
Legion of Skanks clips, I believe, or at least part of the problem, clips follows me.
00:57:06.340
So if you post it, I'll retweet it, and they'll definitely see it.
00:57:09.660
Which is pretty funny, because I retweeted Tom Woods today, and then the part of the problem
00:57:19.860
You actually see what I retweeted, and you're not even retweeting the original.
00:57:26.260
Yeah, Josh came in and was like, shoot, no, this is why you need to be an ANCAP.
00:57:30.740
No, we want to, like, just kind of agree and shit.
00:57:34.640
The best part is he comes in with his gain amped to, like, the highest, like, out of 50.
00:57:46.760
We're trying to talk about, like, Medicare for all and shit, and we're trying to ask
00:57:52.960
I was so bummed we got sidetracked into a fucking conversation about healthcare, but
00:57:57.700
people seemed to enjoy it, so I'm just going to...
00:58:00.160
It was a weird thing that people actually, because inside, a little behind the scenes,
00:58:04.380
we got back in the chat, and we were like, it was good.
00:58:08.420
Like, we were like, it was good, but then I was like, maybe we...
00:58:11.700
I think we hit, like, a solid double on that one.
00:58:14.200
And then, like, everybody else was like, we hit a bloop single, and I was like, oh,
00:58:17.880
Nick was like, you got a bunt single there, bud.
00:58:21.860
And then, like, the next day, I was like, oh, people actually did like this.
00:58:28.600
So, I mean, it was a win all around, apparently.
00:58:37.240
Honestly, that's way more important than the audience.
00:58:39.660
As long as she likes you guys, that means that she'll still fucking continue to talk to you,
00:58:53.220
I don't care if you're going to call him a pedo, or you're going to call him a fucking
00:58:58.840
I would take a much more antagonistic stance if he was on.
00:59:06.760
If someone's fucking boring, like, don't take us negging you as, like, a fucking, like,
00:59:14.660
But, like, if you're interesting, we'll have you on.
00:59:20.780
I'm actually drinking a Gatorade, a Gatorade Zero with whey protein, not Powerade.
00:59:31.140
Yes, we're going to have a podcast war versus Legion of Skanks, and you don't want to fuck
00:59:54.100
Did you see what they did against that other podcast that was called Real Ass Podcast?
01:00:02.220
And then they actually had the guys on, and the guys were actually pretty cool, which I
01:00:10.400
And I was like, all of a sudden, like, people are messaging my grandmother on Facebook,
01:00:21.480
Mr. Powers, you're assuming that Bailey J and Buck Angel are known.
01:00:25.920
Not going to lie, I was disappointed that you didn't ask her about Bailey J versus Buck
01:00:31.740
But you're assuming she would know who they are.
01:00:33.460
I guess she probably would, because she's, like, all pop culture-y, so she probably would.
01:00:37.940
I feel like we mentioned that in that episode, because I feel like we just mentioned it every
01:00:45.220
I felt terrible that we didn't ask, like, 80% of them, but it was so bad.
01:00:52.460
We can set, like, we can set, like, a certain, like, we'll read it if it's over a certain
01:00:57.840
amount, or, like, we need to set some sort of standard.
01:01:14.600
Moment of silence for Jason for not being able to...
01:01:16.880
We're actually just giving a chance for Jason to get the lag in, so he can actually take
01:01:25.220
You guys got to, for real, stop letting him in.
01:01:35.940
Y'all, y'all, really, whoever keeps letting him in, fucking stop.
01:01:46.100
This is the exact same thing that happened last time.
01:01:58.280
At that point, we might as well embrace the madness.
01:02:00.520
And we were also ganging up on a little bit, so I was like, a lefty would probably be nice,
01:02:04.020
because I was a little worried the inertia of all us fucking retards would be like,
01:02:19.040
By the way, I think five is the limit, though, for real, because, like, it just makes so
01:02:25.420
I feel like six only if you have a super good fucking chemistry.
01:02:29.640
If it's us, if we would have, like, again, like, when we had Top Lobster on, Clint came
01:02:37.660
You can always have Reed on, because Reed will always respect the mic.
01:02:41.660
He is, like, he says, like, four things per episode, so, like.
01:02:45.900
Which, actually, he had one of the funniest comments on the last episode, when he said,
01:02:49.340
we can stay autistic and horny longer than she can stay sane.
01:03:03.920
Like, even in his own show, he just basically doesn't say shit.
01:03:07.700
He's kind of the perfect interviewer in that regard, where he's just like, here's a question.
01:03:15.960
He'll just pop in with a bang every now and then.
01:03:21.680
It's just going to be the Peter Schiff show, just for an hour and a half.
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I really need to have Schiff on, because I feel like I could go toe-to-toe with that motherfucker.
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And I, oh God, I hope Reed has a little pushback.
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I would like to go toe-to-toe on, you know, basically all of his incorrect predictions.
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He's been predicting doom for, you know, 12 years, ever since the 08 collapse, he's been
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And it's like, look, are you not the boy who cried wolf?
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And I would like to say, are you doing us a disservice by constantly prognosticating
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that, you know, doom is just around the corner?
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I grant you, our economic situation is very dire.
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But when you, when you sound the alarm too soon, it really does, it turns people off.
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It's like, that's what made his call in 05 about the real estate or 06 about the real
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But then ever since he's been kind of off track.
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Anyways, now I just lost him coming on my show.
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He's like the fucking cult that like, is like the dude, the fucking end of the world is
01:04:31.800
Now, one is actually a real world thing of the Trump thing where they said August 13th.
01:04:43.740
It's literally so funny that people still it also the the Parks and Rec thing with Zorp.
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I don't know if you ever watched Parks and Rec with the same thing.
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I think it's like a business book and they just go back in it.
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They were like, I think I missed some numbers here.
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It's actually and they just use it to go out there and drink.
01:05:02.740
Can we talk briefly about how Nick Ashley put out all these fucking glowing, beautiful
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reviews for all the people that he met at Y'all Revolution and he didn't have anything
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It's it's it is now time for the podcast of the shit on Nick Ashley time.
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And I only show pits for money now, by the way.
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OK, but in serious, I don't roll out of bed for free.
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He kept me he kept feeding me drinks and and he was like my tour guide.
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Like the minute I got there, he's like, I'll meet you here.
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And then and then he he just like walked me around.
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And then he fucking made me like meet up with like the other people from our group
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jet and we all hung out for a minute and then we walked around and he showed me
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Very just exactly what you would expect a Turkish interpreter.
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Were you just as recognized at Yale as you were at Freedom Fest?
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I mean, it was a little bit less because there was there was so many more people.
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Is it still is it still kind of weird or is it?
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Yeah, I think Nick said the same thing, Nick, because it was funny.
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He had a picture in like the airport where somebody recognized him at the airport and
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came and took a picture of them, which is insane.
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Fubadu says just blasted a six pack of six and a half percent alcohol content and I'm
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I think the weirdest thing about the Yale thing was that I got to meet so many bigger
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people like, you know, meeting Zuby and him being like, yo, what's up, man?
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Like, like he knew me, you know, that was a trip.
01:07:06.320
We were talking before the shoe episode and we were kind of like, this is weird because
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like before it's like we're only going to get recognized at random obscure Liberty events.
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And now we're like, are we going to get recognized in real life?
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I've never, I've never been recognized anywhere except for a Tom Woods event, Freedom Fest and
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So it's really cool because you get to have like this little momentary feeling of like
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being known and then you get to go live your life.
01:07:41.780
Probably a libertarian podcast review who did a review on us.
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He broke down Drew Hancock and he broke down Slurp Gang.
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Yeah, he did a whole, he did you the whole episode.
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So I will get this more sorted for the next one.
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I think she's mostly concerned because she's not in there with you.
01:08:24.480
Was there an answer to who got a date with Shu?
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I think people were trying to make it happen with Reed and that didn't happen.
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I don't know if we should even say that in front of him.
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Honestly, this entire conversation is offensive to me.
01:08:43.660
I wish you guys would stop because he's my boyfriend.
01:08:49.680
If you could tell from my voice, I'm pretty sure I have COVID.
01:08:59.780
It actually literally was starting that episode we did with Dave.
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And then it like kind of in between that and my episode with Dave, it was when it really hit me hard.
01:09:10.760
I didn't have any of the taste shit, but I had a really rough cough.
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And I still have a little bit of a cough and fucking like felt like shit.
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And so I'm getting like dogged in that episode by Dave.
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And I can't be like, well, I think I have COVID because I seem like a bitch to be like, well, it's because I have COVID.
01:09:42.580
Clint, don't mention that you have COVID because they were literally coming at you like they did Tom Woods and just hope that you die because you were against the lockdown.
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Like I want to I want to see if it's because I think it's nothing and I feel fine.
01:10:04.760
And I think potentially twice if I had the Pork Fest variant of it and whatever.
01:10:11.400
Speaking of bad actors that shit on Tom Woods because he added a disease.
01:10:22.780
He actually started a fucking liberty movement to kick out the former chair of the Libertarian Party and it took the fuck off.
01:10:32.300
So like two likes and it's been out for like it had been out for like six hours.
01:10:38.660
Also, also, I know his follower count because a couple months ago I challenged him to delete his account if I had more followers than him.
01:10:57.380
But he went from 16,500 to like 14,500 after that block fest.
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I thought he only lost a few hundred because I figured most people just already had blocked him or weren't following or whatever.
01:11:17.780
Dude, that legit was just like me just like kind of thinking out loud on Twitter.
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And I was like – I think I legit had a tweet and I was like, oh, today's been a big white pill.
01:11:29.320
And I was like – I saw some shit about – I had blocked him before like a day or two prior or maybe the very day.
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And then I saw someone quote tweet him and I couldn't tell what he said.
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And so I said in the tweet and I was like – and I see that it looks like Star Wars acting like a Fed again.
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I was like, you guys should just like – we should start a movement.
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And I was like – and then it just started from there.
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Like I didn't even really have this like guiding – like really much of a guiding hand.
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The only thing I did – it's well known amongst the homies and I'm a retweet whore.
01:12:11.160
That energy is amazing for like starting something like this.
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Because all I did was anytime I saw anything related to that – because people were posting screenshots – I would just quote tweet, hashtag block Star Walk, retweet because you can double up.
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You can fucking get two retweets out of one that way.
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And then I'd fucking like and just keep on going.
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And like just like that energy with Twitter, you can cause like a mob effect.
01:12:32.660
It's the same idea with like towers, what we started with.
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Just creates this like fucking feeding frenzy, like chumming the waters.
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And then you got people like Dave was just like I'm into it.
01:12:54.400
And then the crazy was when it started getting to like the more mainstream libertarians.
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I don't know, maybe – not Beltway, but like being libertarian, which is – I think it's Chris Bangle's thing.
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I thought Chris Bangle referred to being libertarian.
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But being libertarian blocked him and was just like hashtag block Nick Star Walk.
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And this is like – not like a Mises caucus, guys.
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Being libertarian is kind of midway in between.
01:13:26.180
Yeah, it was funny too because people go like – I got – people were like, well,
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And then two people were saying a lot too, like, well, we need to be able to slap down
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But it's kind of like – I feel like when you do it, you start getting diminishing returns
01:13:44.100
And there comes a point where it's like we're not – if anything, it flips.
01:13:48.760
If we slapped Star Walk shit down any more than we already had, it would have gone to China.
01:13:53.040
His shit was in the fucking center of the earth.
01:13:56.460
So I thought it was the perfect time because Maggie Anders, Liberty Anders on Twitter, she
01:14:03.460
She's like, yo, you guys – I always see this dude shit in my feed because you guys are
01:14:08.580
And I was like, yeah, but like there's still meat on the bone.
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I thought when you sent that out, I was like – I was vibing with it.
01:14:18.280
So I think everyone was kind of in the same camp.
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So you just – you read the ether and made it happen.
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It was literally like if the Globetrotters finally just got done with the generals.
01:14:27.340
Like they would literally dunk on him every night and they're just finally like, oh, jeez.
01:14:31.780
We're going to go play in the NBA now and we're just going to forget them.
01:14:34.380
Like it basically was that because we do – like he gets dunked on.
01:14:40.020
Every tweet he had, ratioed, Noda, everybody like – I mean just shitting on him, saying how terrible he is.
01:14:49.320
Like he – it's insane because he calls himself libertarian and I want to believe that he is, whatever.
01:14:56.260
But he'll say some of the most retarded shit I've ever heard of just like – and try to spin it in a libertarian way.
01:15:02.700
Did I tell you at Freedom Fest he tried to argue that theft is not a violation of the now?
01:15:08.760
So even in person, he's still unbelievably appalling.
01:15:15.520
And I – and Jose basically started this movie.
01:15:18.560
It's kind of funny too because like it's – like every weekend like one of our crew like does something like in the movement to like –
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like one week was me doing the fucking – with the – that Jerno bitch.
01:15:35.720
Nick Ashley, he did it on the weekend, went on Fakerterians and like became huge on the Fakerterians that weekend.
01:15:42.980
It's just like, okay, which one of us is going to do something?
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The month prior to that was fucking me with Thaddeus and Eliza and then me with Matt.
01:15:52.580
I got sucked in that a little bit too because I kind of came to a little bit you guys' defense sort of.
01:15:57.900
Yeah, I was getting like shit too and it was just so off the wall, the shit we were getting but like we're kind of masters at dealing with this shit at this point.
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I'm not going to bring him up because I don't want to like make it a big deal because it's not a big deal.
01:16:12.460
But he keeps bringing up like that either my show is a deep dive or it's exclusively for clicks.
01:16:17.940
And I'm like – first off, those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
01:16:21.560
Like I think that my deepest conversations are the ones that are the most compelling and I always try and go deep with every guest I have.
01:16:30.480
Also, why do you want to do a show that no one's listening to?
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It's such a weird – it is a weird thing because people are just like, oh, you're just doing this to get followers.
01:16:47.000
I could just go to a therapist if that was the case.
01:16:49.180
So like am I – but am I going to say things I don't believe in to get listeners?
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I might have on guests that are like I don't agree with but that's interesting to me and it's actually like those are more entertaining for me because I like to have pushback and conflict.
01:17:03.160
So all the way around, I don't understand that.
01:17:05.180
I don't understand this whole clout chasing thing.
01:17:07.020
I don't understand this like clicks and likes and that's what you're about.
01:17:10.920
I want people to listen because I think I have the right ideas.
01:17:14.620
So if you think that too, you should want people to listen to you as well.
01:17:17.680
So is that not – is there anything flawed in my logic there?
01:17:27.340
Like I'll see people just like – oh, I mean it kind of goes back to the whole thing of like why didn't you – why did you have on Shu?
01:17:40.720
She showed interest in coming on so we had her on.
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Like it wasn't – like we'll do the same like with – I mean I don't give a fuck.
01:17:46.260
Like we mentioned before that we would have on Nick Fuentes because –
01:17:49.700
Plus, think about how unbelievable it would be if we are the fucking turning point in Shu's political arc.
01:17:56.600
That she becomes more base, more red-pilled, maybe even starts to dismiss the socialism aspect of things and becomes more of an ad cap.
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She just has – we, in our opinion, the wrong solutions.
01:18:08.580
And we got to present her the counter-arguments.
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She even said at the end of it, you guys have a much greater foundation for your beliefs than I expected.
01:18:17.080
So if you can't see the value in that, just go into your fucking echo chamber, man.
01:18:25.000
And it's also a thing of like – okay, listen.
01:18:28.540
Michael Malice is probably the biggest one in our community right now.
01:18:33.080
Like I think he has like 200,000 Twitter followers and I think his podcast is like over 100,000.
01:18:45.320
Like if she even shows a little bit of interest in Liberty, like this shit is actually – I mean this is kind of where we're getting into changing the culture numbers.
01:18:56.100
What's funny is we would definitely talk – we would just keep talking about his like fucking mustache and like talk about like the weird stuff like, oh, do you actually really just get sexually turned on by hands?
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All we would have to do is convince him to get some penicillin to deal with his syphilis and then we would save 6 million lives.
01:19:21.920
We go, hey, Hitler, we agree with your theory, just not your praxis.
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Hitler, we read Mein Kampf and I want to say mostly good, all right?
01:19:47.520
Listen, let me introduce you to the fucking Italians, all right?
01:19:53.000
Yeah, dude, clout chasing is just when you fucking – when you want to have good guests on that people will enjoy.
01:20:00.900
And fucking – and grifting is just when somebody's mad at me.
01:20:05.040
Well, I think – I could actually – I actually understand the grifting concern more than I do the clout chasing concern.
01:20:13.300
Because clout chasing is just – you're growing your show and you want more listeners.
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So if you have bigger guests, you get more listeners.
01:20:19.720
The grifting is like you might actually say things to just get money.
01:20:23.300
You know, like that is bad in my opinion, especially if you're a principled libertarian.
01:20:31.340
Like if you actually listen to my show and you think at any point that I'm grifting, okay, then I will take your concern seriously.
01:20:38.380
But if you think I'm just trying to fucking grow my show more aggressively than you think I should, eat all of the dicks.
01:20:47.740
Load it up and then load the boat into your mouth because I don't give a fuck.
01:20:50.740
Well, I think the grifting thing too is like – but it's when you become unprincipled and you're like trying to just get the clicks for the money.
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And you're just – and you like – and you sell out.
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You're like, okay, I'm – and usually what happens is like you'll have somebody that may have started in Liberty Community and then goes to – I mean I'm not going to super shit on TPUSA.
01:21:12.440
But like someone in the Liberty Community and then like they go on TPSUSA because they had, you know, a couple thousand followers and they're like, oh, here.
01:21:19.280
And then all of a sudden you start hearing them talk about like the fucking – what's that Jewish guy that runs the – not Purdue University.
01:21:31.200
Like taking like PragerU like libertarian stances on stuff.
01:21:35.120
It's like, okay, then you know, okay, that's grifting.
01:21:36.800
That's – yeah, if I ever come out and start advocating for wars or something, then yeah, I fucking – I'm obviously a piece of shit and you should shit all over me for it.
01:21:45.420
And it's like – and you get like – you start talking about wars and all of a sudden we start seeing you on Fox News.
01:21:52.080
That's when you're just like, okay, he's doing it for the money.
01:21:55.060
You're even doing your same show saying the same thing you did whenever you had 500 followers as you 5,000.
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Yeah, I mean even that – I don't even think that's grifting.
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Like you're still – if you're grifting, you're being dishonest about who you are.
01:22:12.860
In that case, you're being honest about being a shithead.
01:22:15.440
Grifting and clout chasing both have – there are legit definitions like we're all getting at here.
01:22:19.980
But it falls prey to the same thing that a lot of rhetoric falls to where like once it enters like the majority dialectic, it starts shifting.
01:22:29.460
Like it has a meaning, but it just becomes that which I don't like, which is somehow vaguely associated with racism.
01:22:41.100
It's like Jose asking for money at the beginning of his show.
01:22:43.300
That's not grifting because he's just – he's trying to monetize his show.
01:22:47.760
So if he was to go on there and be like, I don't know, we should reinsert the fucking military into Afghanistan and pay me money, I'd be like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
01:22:58.520
Well, it's funny because like you say people – like Toad goes to a bunch of – you go and see concerts.
01:23:04.140
It's like if they ask you for money to go get entertainment.
01:23:08.440
Like if we ask you for money to get entertainment from us.
01:23:11.220
Is the store owner grifting because they're asking for money?
01:23:16.740
Like we've talked about getting a Patreon or something.
01:23:19.660
But like for right now, I don't think we should because I enjoy just having the people in the chat.
01:23:24.080
If you want to give us – send us a super chat, that's – I mean that's fine.
01:23:27.900
But I'm not going to put us behind a paywall because I'm –
01:23:42.740
I just read Emma Goldman's essay about like the majority and the minority.
01:23:48.160
And if you guys read it in the Anarchist Handbook, it's like talking about how like once –
01:23:52.400
things are driven by minorities, but once something ends up in the majority, it kind of gets – goes to shit.
01:23:57.760
And that's the same thing as what I'm getting at.
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I have Thaddeus Russell on tomorrow to talk about.
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That is also a thing that people think that will happen if they think – because you're clout chasing, they think clout chasing is like if you're getting bigger, you become more diluted in your message.
01:24:21.460
And I don't think that's a true statement that it always happens.
01:24:24.400
But I do think that they think like if you become more mainstream, you therefore have to be more mainstream in your politics or mainstream in your message.
01:24:32.280
I think this is actually a really similar argument to people that say that you shouldn't get involved in politics because even you couldn't possibly wield that power without maintaining your principles.
01:24:45.180
However, I do believe if I was given it that I would maintain my morality.
01:24:48.940
I would maintain my principles of not being a militaristic asshole, diminishing the state as rapidly as possible, all the things that I talk about on my show all the time.
01:25:02.680
But if you listen to me, if anything, I'm getting more fucking hardcore.
01:25:06.500
And I'm telling the truth even more aggressively.
01:25:08.640
So it's like because I now understand, like my audience will ride with me.
01:25:14.020
No matter how radical I am, people are like, yeah, dude, I vibe with this.
01:25:29.600
I genuinely – I know people in agorist get the flack for – I actually don't think you should be politically involved.
01:25:38.220
That's kind of like – so that's why I'm able to have friends who are like that.
01:25:44.520
Would you rather have Nick Sarwak involved in politics or me?
01:25:52.620
I mean I would prefer the LP – I would prefer the LP and non-existent entity and something like Starwak kind of makes it look illegitimate.
01:26:07.500
Jose answers the mouse's like polls with like, well, actually –
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If it's like a small town and it's some elected position or whatever that doesn't have some larger implication, yeah.
01:26:24.740
Like whether or not I would end up – anyways, you get my point.
01:26:30.500
I was considering something like what Jose just said where if it's a situation where you actually want Sarwak to look like an idiot, if you want that person to look like an idiot, then I guess you would say Sarwak depending on that situation.
01:26:43.580
But most of the time I would say you, even in the case – like I don't want Sarwak's name associated with libertarianism because it's what we believe and it's not actually what he believes.
01:26:56.460
And I think that we're not actually trying to – at that level especially, you're not actually trying to win an election.
01:27:02.260
Like I would be skeptical that anybody would be able to wield that power in any way.
01:27:06.800
Like I think it's a situation where you get the ring, you have to destroy the ring.
01:27:12.420
Like this is my point because like Ron Paul, he was in Congress.
01:27:19.460
But he also never had any real power other than to vote no against everything, which is what he did.
01:27:23.660
I think that any of us would do the same thing.
01:27:35.240
By the way, I did – so the kind of like gout chasing –
01:27:40.320
I wouldn't want coal in politics because he would say the N-word constantly.
01:27:44.720
And that's exactly why I wanted to be the head of the Libertarian Party, to make them irrelevant.
01:27:52.300
There was that one Alabama, like – I can't remember.
01:27:58.080
And he was running against mayor and he said, we don't want these – he said the N-word, like inward maids.
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And he was like pointing at like one of the other black members of the town hall.
01:28:11.300
It was just like, we don't want these N-word maids or something like that.
01:28:21.300
But by the way, the gout chasing made me think it was funny.
01:28:24.360
So me and the wife were having some fun the other night.
01:28:28.700
And like mid-stroke, she looks at me and she was just like, have you ever thought about working out?
01:28:35.700
And it was possibly like afterwards, I immediately – when I was – I remember the story.
01:28:50.500
He's trying to help us improve and not be as retarded.
01:28:53.260
So we got – we finished up and then like I went to the bathroom.
01:28:56.460
And the first thing I thought was like, man, this would be a funny comedic bit if I was just talking about how my wife told me to work out while I was having sex with her.
01:29:04.960
Was it coincidentally right after she met me or what?
01:29:14.440
Well, see, what was also happening is she was thinking about it because she was trying to give Fat Dave a handjob and she couldn't find his penis and it was all the fat.
01:29:23.520
I know this is in a super chat, but I want to read it.
01:29:28.180
I wear a black face and pass out N-word passes for five bucks and only been caught once.
01:29:32.100
So Nick Ashley – Nick Ashley's an agorist confirmed.
01:29:38.780
How I wanted to make a comedic bit was just talking about like – oh, she's just talking about that I'm so good and powerful during sex.
01:29:45.780
I'll just go into the gym and just start lifting like all the weights, basically totally Chad in there.
01:29:57.760
We have made sex videos before and there's not – and this wasn't – I'm built like a little –
01:30:08.220
There's something super base about looking at you fuck.
01:30:11.240
Like look at those meaty fucking thighs and that fat fucking ass.
01:30:15.420
Like I'm more like jerking off to me than I am to her at that point, you know?
01:30:23.080
It's like that American Psycho scene where he's like –
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I guess she probably doesn't want to see you either.
01:30:51.880
Usually we've kind of been talking about how we want to limit these to an hour and a half.
01:31:00.660
Subscribe on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, motherfucking go.
01:31:08.740
I was going to let him come in and plug, but –
01:31:22.400
That was context in the description for the episode so people can –
01:31:25.900
Every show we do, throw in the description to everybody who was on and all their – where
01:31:35.480
We will definitely have you on again once you actually, like, go to a Starbucks and do
01:31:56.840
You can find me on the No Way Jose YouTube channel.
01:32:02.580
I am recording with Thaddeus Russell tomorrow doing my – furthering my The Anarchist Handbook
01:32:14.000
Chew, if you're watching, I really want you to do Ling.
01:32:28.040
And Jose is going to get called a pedophile after he does that episode.
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I'm really trying my best for these to pick people to exude the energy.
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I mean, I'll keep bugging her until she does it or until I find someone who's better.
01:32:47.140
Toad, go ahead and give out who we have coming on next.
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Yeah, so for Tower Power Hour, next week we've got Mark Clare coming on the show.
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That's on the 23rd on Monday, a little bit later at 10 p.m.
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And we've got the week after that we're doing a Tuesday show with Tho Bishop and Neil Conrover.
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And we're doing Wednesday right after that with Justin O'Donnell.
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So we're going to, I guess, make fun of him for being an agorist.
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And we've got some other cool episodes coming up after that, too, including a 9-11 special.
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And we also, are we announcing the other person that we're having on yet?
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I know this Wednesday, though, two days from now, Fat Dave and I are going to be on the One American podcast with Chase Geiser, which is live, I believe, at 8 p.m. Eastern or something like that on Wednesday.
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And we're going to spice it up a little bit for his show.
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And we're going on Pulse to the Wall next week, too.
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Pine underscore underscore Barron's on Twitter.
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He puts out, like, a bunch of fucking clips of us.
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So, I mean, he's been killing it, cracking us up in the group chat every time I send it.
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Does he work for, like, a mortgage company or some shit?
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I won't say where he works at because it would definitely – he's definitely not supposed to get – you do not want to know that he works there.
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But, yes, he works at a place where he does do mortgages.