Tower Gang - Ep 30 - Boofing Gasoline w⧸ Justin O'Donnell

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00:01:15.400 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, degenerates and extremists, patriots and domestic terrorists, 0.54

00:01:21.180 welcome to another episode of Tower Power Hour.

00:01:24.400 We are joined by the great Justin O'Donnell, a United States veteran, a long-time LP member,

00:01:32.400 mostly recently ran for Senate in New Hampshire.

00:01:35.660 How are you doing, Justin?

00:01:36.880 I'm great.

00:01:37.440 How are you guys doing?

00:01:38.980 Good.

00:01:39.440 Good.

00:01:39.880 Doing good. 1.00

00:01:41.680 First off, who the fuck are you? 1.00

00:01:45.380 Google me, bitch. 1.00

00:01:46.540 I've actually gotten to respond with that with people, and that was one of my, the only 0.99

00:01:52.660 things I was ever jealous about Gary Johnson was he could just say, Google me when somebody

00:01:56.160 asked who he was, and now if you Google me, I come up on the top and it has an info box

00:02:00.140 for me.

00:02:01.620 Literally Googling you right now.

00:02:03.840 You'll see what it comes up.

00:02:05.300 It'd be a lot easier if you just play along and do your little intro thing.

00:02:09.440 It comes up with this Ballotpedia entry and then the porno that you did that one time.

00:02:13.620 That one time, there was like four.

00:02:15.980 Jesus Christ.

00:02:17.120 If you type three coverdail in on YouTube, all the Tower Power Hour episodes show up

00:02:21.900 first, so that's, you know, that is what it is.

00:02:23.820 Are you serious?

00:02:24.340 Yes.

00:02:24.780 I guess.

00:02:25.780 The Nationalist Capitalist is just a shadow band.

00:02:28.200 It shows up as a naturalist capitalist.

00:02:30.340 It's all the Tower Power Hour episodes.

00:02:32.600 Hell yeah.

00:02:33.620 That's the one that pisses me off, is if you type Justin O'Donnell into YouTube, it comes

00:02:37.300 up with a channel for some dude in Australia with two subscribers first.

00:02:40.560 I looked you up and it just says Justin O'Donnell and it has your picture and it says politician

00:02:48.600 and then I didn't realize that your Twitter also comes up and it says Justin O'Donnell

00:02:52.240 extremist and I'm like, that's pretty awesome.

00:02:56.380 So it turns out that's not like a turnoff to people because somehow like people on the

00:03:01.700 internet still engage with me when I self-identify as a domestic terrorist.

00:03:05.280 It's because you have a blue check as well.

00:03:07.940 That's why.

00:03:08.440 There's so much privilege.

00:03:11.560 You're a politician and a domestic terrorist, so that's kind of accurate if you think about 1.00

00:03:15.020 it.

00:03:16.580 I also wrote a book.

00:03:18.140 It's got a link to my book and it's funny because the book's like old, maybe a little

00:03:22.200 bit outdated now.

00:03:22.980 It's about how to communicate ideas to people without being an extremist.

00:03:28.540 I grew up.

00:03:30.160 Justin, if you had been elected to the U.S. Senate, you would have had the opportunity

00:03:33.500 to be an international terrorist instead of just a domestic terrorist.

00:03:37.140 Right.

00:03:37.860 That would have been great.

00:03:38.980 I don't know.

00:03:39.340 If I was elected to the U.S. Senate, like I had made a promise to somebody who had donated

00:03:44.580 to my campaign that if I, like lightning struck bottles and I won, I would never give, I would

00:03:51.580 never say anything unless I was under the influence of LSD.

00:03:58.740 And like, that's the campaign promise I fully intended to keep. 1.00

00:04:02.260 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:04:03.540 As an agorist, I could vote for that. 1.00

00:04:06.420 That means Justin's going to commit acts of terror during the show then because I think

00:04:11.140 he's on a little bit of that right now.

00:04:13.020 I mean, it is a Wednesday.

00:04:18.680 Are Wednesdays just drug days?

00:04:20.300 Is that just how it goes?

00:04:21.460 Just like.

00:04:21.760 It ends with a Y.

00:04:23.260 I mean. 0.99

00:04:24.140 Doesn't that shit take like about an hour or two to kick in? 0.99

00:04:27.040 So it'll probably be near the end of the episode when you start getting wonky. 0.99

00:04:29.340 Oh, it takes about 20 minutes to kick in and it just builds up and gets more and more

00:04:33.760 and more weird the whole time. 0.56

00:04:35.500 I've only fucked with acid once and I felt like, from my recollect, it was like an hour 0.58

00:04:40.000 or two later and I was like, oh, uh-oh. 0.99

00:04:47.220 What's funny is just fucking re-tear to Justin is just going to get more and more wet as it 0.88

00:04:53.040 goes along, but it's just the same amount of wetness as it always is. 0.92

00:04:56.100 It's going to start dripping though and then the natural scapula's logo will melt.

00:05:02.020 You actually got me before I could take a shower, so I'm not like right out of the

00:05:05.760 shower this time, so it's not as wet as you do.

00:05:09.300 One day I will buy.

00:05:11.420 Yeah, one day I'm going to buy Reed a like, it's going to be a Tower Gang like branded towel

00:05:17.040 and I'm going to be like, here you go, man.

00:05:18.740 It's like, you can use this.

00:05:21.100 Top tops, we can start doing it.

00:05:22.660 Put it in the store.

00:05:23.560 This is a fun topic though.

00:05:25.280 Which of us have done hallucinogenics? 1.00

00:05:26.780 Is it just me and Justin or have you guys fucked with that shit too? 0.99

00:05:29.200 I only do them when I'm driving through San Diego other than that. 1.00

00:05:33.120 I mean, how else could you go through San Diego?

00:05:37.720 I've only smoked weed, took an edible, and then I drank and smoked cigars.

00:05:44.140 That's about it.

00:05:44.700 A simple no would suffice.

00:05:46.080 He's got to let you know that he's on something, man. 1.00

00:05:51.520 That he's not a pussy. 1.00

00:05:52.220 Yeah, I can't be like... 0.99

00:05:53.560 All right, I mean, all I'm going to say is like, I do all of these other things that

00:05:57.680 are awesome, so... 0.98

00:05:59.420 All I'll say is, I have become familiar with YouTube's monetization policy, so I won't fuck 0.99

00:06:03.500 you, and I'll say, this is not intended to glorify drug use. 1.00

00:06:06.960 Oh, dude, we don't give a shit. 1.00

00:06:08.160 We don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:06:09.460 But the best combination you can do is you take a hit of MDMA alongside a hit of acid, 0.99

00:06:18.340 and then like an hour later, you start hitting ketamine and nitrous oxide at the same time.

00:06:27.100 Have you ever huffed gasoline?

00:06:30.800 He's like, obviously, I just take a couple markers off, and I just start sniffing those

00:06:34.380 markers real good, those really deep metal ones too.

00:06:37.360 Dude, you can legit get high off gasoline, though, for those who don't know, but it's 1.00

00:06:40.540 the most dirtiest fucking white trash high you'll ever have in your life. 1.00

00:06:45.100 Dude, so a few years ago, they passed a law in New Hampshire at the Statehouse to decriminalize 1.00

00:06:50.760 huffing gasoline.

00:06:54.400 Because it had carried criminal penalties, and somebody, like a Democrat put up a law,

00:06:59.320 like, we need to decriminalize huffing.

00:07:01.080 Like, why?

00:07:02.040 Because we're just sending fines to poor parents.

00:07:04.980 Oh, it wasn't the Free State Party doing that?

00:07:08.280 It was like, oh, they have nice priorities there.

00:07:11.680 No, I just love the thought of, like, the ATF kicking in your door, like, put down the 1.00

00:07:15.700 fucking gasoline, bitch! 1.00

00:07:17.040 Put it down! 1.00

00:07:17.840 And it was just some guy, like, just out of his mind.

00:07:21.280 It's like the most toothless law you could imagine, too. 0.99

00:07:24.200 Like, this motherfucker has gasoline, like, what do you, you'd have to literally catch 0.99

00:07:29.380 him in the act to have any sort of substantive evidence. 0.99

00:07:32.700 The way it was written, it prohibited inhaling toxic vapors for effect, was the way it was

00:07:41.380 written. 0.79

00:07:41.860 Which is actually pretty fucking vague.

00:07:44.600 Yeah, that includes, like, cigarettes. 0.91

00:07:48.060 Right, it should.

00:07:49.880 Oxygen.

00:07:51.580 Sir, you're blood tested for extremely high levels of octane.

00:07:58.600 And it's really funny, because, like, I bet, like, people that smoke crack look down on

00:08:02.440 the people that huff gasoline.

00:08:04.100 I get to smash it up.

00:08:06.020 You're in an upper act. 1.00

00:08:07.580 Fucking degenerate. 1.00

00:08:08.680 Wait a minute, though. 1.00

00:08:10.940 If you, um, I forget what it's even called now.

00:08:13.860 If you, like, steal gasoline from out of somebody's gas tank.

00:08:17.940 Siphon it.

00:08:18.700 Yeah, siphon it.

00:08:19.620 Are you not huffing it then, too?

00:08:21.240 Like, do you, or do you accidentally huff it if you do that?

00:08:23.580 I mean, that was the whole reason behind the law.

00:08:25.620 They just were sick of people siphoning gas.

00:08:28.840 Well, see, it's pretty close to Canada, which is why I think they call people hosers as an 0.99

00:08:32.840 insult.

00:08:33.160 Well, so you're still, like, you're still clean on the using illegal substances, because gasoline

00:08:38.080 isn't illegal, so.

00:08:41.120 Again, it's, like, it's just really, really hard to prove that you're huffing gasoline

00:08:44.940 unless they literally find a guy, like, just neck deep in a five-gallon bucket of gasoline,

00:08:50.160 and then you can pull it and be like, no, I was just testing it, you know, man?

00:08:52.560 I'm not high. 0.95

00:08:54.840 You have, like, ridiculous tobacco addictions and nicotine addictions couldn't help but put 0.94

00:09:00.060 the cigarette down while they're trying to huff the gasoline. 0.81

00:09:02.660 Do you remember when, I think it was in New Jersey, I think it was either New Jersey or

00:09:10.520 Oregon.

00:09:11.380 I know two totally different states, but they, like, used to have the law where you had to

00:09:16.100 have someone pump your gas for you.

00:09:18.000 Oregon State it was.

00:09:19.340 Yeah.

00:09:19.520 Yeah.

00:09:21.700 And then, like, people freaked out.

00:09:23.400 They were like, I'm literally going to smell like gasoline all day if I have to pump my own

00:09:27.140 gas for 60-year-old people who've never pumped their own gas because they never left Oregon.

00:09:34.060 Yeah.

00:09:34.500 Yeah.

00:09:35.040 And then they, I think New Jersey, it's still the law.

00:09:37.560 In Oregon, they still do it some places, but it's not the law anymore.

00:09:41.080 Like, you are allowed to do it yourself.

00:09:42.980 And people, it was, what, like, 2017 or something when they repealed that?

00:09:46.580 People were legit mad.

00:09:48.520 Like, upset.

00:09:49.340 They thought that, like, if you pump gasoline yourself, you'll just smell like gasoline all

00:09:54.420 day long, or, like, if you get out of your car while someone's pumping gasoline, you'll

00:09:58.000 literally catch on fire. 0.99

00:09:59.240 It's so retarded. 1.00

00:10:00.300 It's totally dangerous. 1.00

00:10:01.680 Who the fuck puts gasoline in a bag? 0.99

00:10:05.320 Just to get in the container. 1.00

00:10:07.500 It's pretty bad when California can make you look like a bitch, you know? 1.00

00:10:10.660 Like, you fucking, you guys can't even get up to California caliber. 1.00

00:10:15.140 The thing is, like, this isn't even the worst use I've heard of for gasoline. 0.99

00:10:18.900 Like, story time.

00:10:22.300 Once upon a time, I was in Minecraft.

00:10:24.860 I was in Puerto Rico.

00:10:26.640 I was young, and I was on a ship.

00:10:29.420 We had a port-a-call in Puerto Rico, and it was right after the Super Bowl weekend in

00:10:33.400 Tampa, which was the worst Super Bowl ever. 0.98

00:10:36.700 It was fucking Pittsburgh and Cardinals, and we left in the third quarter. 0.99

00:10:42.040 That was a great Super Bowl. 0.99

00:10:43.860 What are you talking about?

00:10:44.680 I was a Patriots fan. 1.00

00:10:45.740 I was fucking miserable. 1.00

00:10:46.800 I hated the Patriots. 1.00

00:10:47.860 I was just, like, I was enjoying the game quite a bit.

00:10:50.620 It was back and forth at the end.

00:10:51.940 Yeah.

00:10:52.040 But we left next, and I was under 21 and couldn't drink. 0.97

00:10:56.100 The next weekend, we're in fucking Puerto Rico, and we're trying to find something to do 0.98

00:11:02.360 during the day, and all the bars are closed at, like, weird fucking hours. 0.99

00:11:05.640 They close at, like, 5 in the morning and don't open again until 2 p.m. 0.95

00:11:08.800 And we're running around, like, normal hours. 0.99

00:11:12.300 Not when you're fucking, like, 19, and, like, you're sure leave off the fucking ship you're 0.99

00:11:17.400 stationed on is not those hours. 0.99

00:11:19.840 Okay. 0.96

00:11:20.760 So we're trying to find something to do during the fucking day, and me and a couple friends 0.96

00:11:24.160 are walking around, and a cop stops us as we're walking through, like, back roads in 0.96

00:11:28.020 San Juan.

00:11:28.920 He's like, you guys can't go down there. 0.99

00:11:30.180 And this cop's in, like, full battle rattle with the fucking AR-15 and body armor. 0.99

00:11:34.020 We're like, why not? 0.99

00:11:34.840 He's like, that's not my street. 0.99

00:11:36.380 I'm like, whose fucking street is it? 0.99

00:11:38.220 And he just points. 1.00

00:11:39.320 As this Puerto Rican kid, it's just, like, fucking jean shorts with an AK. 0.99

00:11:44.380 And, like, it's his street. 0.99

00:11:45.920 I'm like, and my buddy Nick is just like, oh, he looks like he knows how to have fun.

00:11:49.420 We're going to go ask him where the party is.

00:11:51.400 And we just walk up to this kid, and we ask him.

00:11:54.140 He's like, oh, you know where we can, like, have a good time during the day?

00:11:56.880 He's like, yeah, sure.

00:11:57.640 Come on.

00:11:58.100 And he takes us to San Therese, and, like, a garage party's going on.

00:12:01.800 And the kid pours us a couple drinks out of literally a 55-gallon drum that they're ladling drinks out of.

00:12:08.060 And I drank it. 0.99

00:12:09.000 I'm like, it's fucking delicious. 1.00

00:12:10.040 What the fuck is this? 1.00

00:12:10.800 He's like, you take all the different flavors of Cruisin rum. 1.00

00:12:13.920 You put them in there.

00:12:14.900 You put a gallon of cherries.

00:12:16.520 You take a gallon of oranges, a gallon of apples.

00:12:19.380 And then you take a half gallon of gasoline, and you mix it up. 0.99

00:12:22.300 I'm like, hold the fuck on, gasoline? 0.99

00:12:26.860 And Puerto Rican is like, yeah, it helps you metabolize the alcohol. 1.00

00:12:30.820 I'm like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:12:33.620 I'll take another. 1.00

00:12:35.900 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:12:39.000 By the way, did it get you fucked up? 1.00

00:12:40.840 It got us so fucked up. 1.00

00:12:42.020 That was funny. 1.00

00:12:45.480 It got us fucked up enough that we could drink Modelo for the rest of the day. 0.98

00:12:48.820 Especial or Negra? 0.99

00:12:53.340 Puerto Rican piss water. 1.00

00:12:54.820 It's all the same. 0.97

00:12:56.660 No offense, Rob.

00:12:58.480 By the way, Nick actually did want to ask, what is your ethnicity?

00:13:03.740 Irish.

00:13:05.600 It's O'Donnell.

00:13:07.940 Although I have been recently informed by a representative of the Klan back in Donegal, Ireland,

00:13:15.220 that I am no longer welcome as a Klan member,

00:13:17.780 and I am no longer welcome to claim the Klan, because of my...

00:13:22.460 That's crazy, because this is a Klan rally right now, so...

00:13:24.780 Yeah.

00:13:26.460 But this dude went on a rant on me on Twitter about how I am no longer welcome to claim the Klan O'Donnell's family

00:13:32.820 because of my extremist views on Twitter.

00:13:37.560 Why would that disqualify you?

00:13:39.280 It seems like that would be like...

00:13:40.980 I would say, like, all those really pacifist Irish people are just, like, definitely not extremists over there.

00:13:50.940 I mean, like, the Klan is... 0.95

00:13:53.940 The actual Klan is, like, 50-50 on their roots between, like, don't give a fuck and loyalist supporters of the British Crown. 1.00

00:14:01.900 So when I start, like, doing, like, come out, you black and tans shit to them, they see me as a traitor. 1.00

00:14:09.000 Oh. 0.99

00:14:09.400 I mean, I'm used to the Klan being pretty based, so...

00:14:11.940 By the way, when you talk to regular people, do you just still, like, acknowledge them as the Klan?

00:14:20.560 And you just talk about, oh, yeah, the Klan.

00:14:24.520 With a C, I swear.

00:14:27.020 I'm in the Klan.

00:14:28.320 You know, some of them are really loyalists to the British Crown. 1.00

00:14:31.560 It's like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:14:34.160 Justin, I've got an Irish friend, and I'm always joking with him about, like, you know, Ireland. 0.99

00:14:38.820 Isn't that just, like, part of England?

00:14:40.180 I mean, it makes him really mad with your relatives, you're saying?

00:14:45.340 Some of them. 0.99

00:14:46.220 Like, some of them will be fucking, like... 1.00

00:14:48.020 Like, the ones who care about the Klan and the fucking history, they'll be all, like, fucking... 1.00

00:14:55.700 God save the fucking queen. 1.00

00:14:58.040 The ones who don't give a shit, like me, the Kmachi black and tans fucking fights me like a man. 1.00

00:15:05.380 That's the Irish I know, man. 1.00

00:15:07.060 And being a Bostonian, we've got a lot of those people around here.

00:15:10.980 Yeah, that's funny.

00:15:12.220 Yeah, Dickie Walnuts is in the chat, just literally singing the song.

00:15:16.540 He's literally going...

00:15:16.900 We're going to buy you on the fountain in flunders.

00:15:20.960 And I think, Justin, you're actually from Massachusetts, right?

00:15:24.260 Yeah.

00:15:24.520 I grew up on South Shore, North Attleboro, and down in the Cape a lot.

00:15:29.120 And then after I got out of the Army, I'd moved back to Natick before...

00:15:33.520 Actually, I didn't join the Free State Project.

00:15:36.400 I am not a Free Stater.

00:15:37.500 I did not move to New Hampshire for the Free State Project. 1.00

00:15:41.080 I always thought the Free State Project was a really stupid idea. 0.97

00:15:44.060 I moved to New Hampshire because the state of Massachusetts took all my guns. 0.99

00:15:49.800 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:50.360 You want to talk about California making me look like a pussy? 1.00

00:15:54.340 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:54.760 Like, Massachusetts gun laws are worse than...

00:15:56.820 But did they actually take your guns, or was that a...

00:15:58.920 Yeah, no.

00:15:59.720 So, I was working for Gary Johnson in 2016, and it was really fucking stressful doing event 1.00

00:16:04.720 coordination for Bill Weld because he was a piece of shit. 0.99

00:16:07.300 And there was a point, like, a week before the election where I get a call at work. 1.00

00:16:13.480 It was like, hey, Bill wants to have a press conference.

00:16:15.460 I'm like, okay, when?

00:16:16.960 In two hours? 1.00

00:16:17.740 I'm like, fuck you. 1.00

00:16:19.260 We can't organize something in two fucking hours and get all Boston media there. 1.00

00:16:23.060 I was like, Bill really wants to do it. 0.99

00:16:24.560 I'm like, fucking Chrissy and Dan, and we got together. 0.99

00:16:26.880 And we did it. 0.99

00:16:27.420 We got all the Boston media, and we got, like, fucking 200 people to show up to the press conference. 0.98

00:16:31.560 Bill Weld gave a press conference at which he endorsed Hillary Clinton. 0.95

00:16:34.300 I threw my phone at him, like, I quit the thing. 1.00

00:16:39.220 I fucking lost it, and I fucking rage quit, and I'm like, fuck this shit. 1.00

00:16:43.440 That night, I was so stressed out. 1.00

00:16:45.240 I'm like, I'm just going to go to the gun range.

00:16:46.840 I was driving to Framingham to go to the gun range, and my appendix burst while I was on

00:16:51.740 the way to the gun range and wrecked my car, and they brought me to the hospital where

00:16:57.700 I was concealed carrying a firearm into a gun-free zone while unconscious.

00:17:04.300 And Andrew's also, he had a lot of alcohol in his bloodstream just from being Irish.

00:17:09.780 Yeah, and, like, a week later.

00:17:13.780 .08 when they haven't.

00:17:17.160 Oh, yeah. 0.93

00:17:18.540 But, like, a week later when I get out of the hospital, I fucking catch an Uber home. 0.98

00:17:22.400 I get home, and there's fucking two state troopers cleaning out my safe. 1.00

00:17:26.120 Holy shit. 1.00

00:17:26.800 Wow. 0.99

00:17:27.560 So, because you were unconscious, and they brought you in, and you had, like, I guess

00:17:32.020 you had a concealed carry permit in Massachusetts, I don't know, and they were just still like,

00:17:36.100 oh, sorry.

00:17:37.180 Zero tolerance. 1.00

00:17:37.780 You should have known, you dumbass. 1.00

00:17:39.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:39.840 Zero tolerance.

00:17:42.060 Yeah.

00:17:42.300 Hey, man, you know how you're unconscious?

00:17:43.820 Literally wake up, remember to tell everybody you have a gun, and take that out before you

00:17:47.840 go.

00:17:48.040 So, like, yeah, I called a bunch of lawyers, and finally one of them was like, what'd they

00:17:52.900 take?

00:17:53.220 I gave him an inventory.

00:17:54.160 He's like, it's going to be cheaper to move to New Hampshire and replace it all than to

00:17:58.060 sue.

00:17:59.080 I'm like, bye.

00:18:00.520 Like, whoa.

00:18:03.240 Jesus Christ.

00:18:05.340 All right, so, Justin, I've seen on your profile that you describe yourself as an anarcho-nihilist. 0.98

00:18:09.860 So, does that just mean that you're, like, anarchist, but, like, who fucking cares, you 0.96

00:18:13.080 know? 0.99

00:18:13.220 Like, I'm an anarchist, but when it comes to, like, finding deeper meaning in shit, it's 1.00

00:18:21.260 like, fucking, I hate objectivism. 1.00

00:18:25.380 I hate Ayn Rand. 1.00

00:18:26.420 I hate people who subscribe to a libertarian philosophy because their whole point is, like,

00:18:31.020 morals. 1.00

00:18:31.800 Like, fuck that. 1.00

00:18:32.680 Morals are completely relative. 1.00

00:18:35.580 The NAP is, the NAP, the non-aggression principle is a childishly incomplete and insufficiently

00:18:41.300 vague philosophy that can be argued to include anything.

00:18:44.600 Like, I can make a coherent argument how Timothy McVeigh did not violate the NAP.

00:18:49.620 You have, too.

00:18:51.280 I have.

00:18:54.960 If I knew who that was, I'd get really mad at you.

00:18:57.840 I was going to say, could you, like, argue that about somebody who's less base than that? 0.85

00:19:03.180 Like, that one, I'm actually surprised that didn't get me, like, sucked on the Twitter.

00:19:10.720 Dude, you make me look good, like, in comparison.

00:19:14.640 You make me look sort of tame sometimes.

00:19:17.720 Like, I'd put out, like, the tweet was just, like, all these new regulations.

00:19:22.620 I'm starting to sympathize with Timothy McVeigh.

00:19:25.160 It blown up, like, internet big mad.

00:19:28.060 It got reported to Twitter over 10,000 times.

00:19:31.080 It had over 1,000 comments just tagging the FBI.

00:19:35.860 And then, like, Reid and AJ and a bunch of other people started responding to those people.

00:19:40.140 Like, why are you tagging a terrorist organization?

00:19:45.200 Where did you get the ideological grounding from this?

00:19:48.060 Is this something you came to yourself?

00:19:49.240 Are you a Sterner fan?

00:19:50.300 Where is this coming from?

00:19:51.620 I don't read books.

00:19:54.280 Yes.

00:19:55.020 I'm with you.

00:19:55.820 This makes more sense now.

00:19:57.080 Like, I'm going to be like, there's, like, different paths people come to having, have to coming to libertarianism. 0.89

00:20:04.860 Like, you have the autistic path, the people who listen to Jose's show and care about fucking, like, how, the lie. 0.94

00:20:12.780 And then you have, like, the victimhood path of people who were fucking victims and are just looking for, like, recompense and, like, the state wronged me. 0.94

00:20:19.340 I came to libertarianism because, like, literally, I helped the United States Army lock down the city of Boston and enforce martial law after the marathon bombing. 0.86

00:20:30.320 And then I was in NCOIC directing security for 4th of July that summer where we had checkpoints.

00:20:37.480 We were just detaining people.

00:20:38.520 I detained a deaf guy because I didn't have a translator, and it was easier than finding a translator was to just detain and arrest him and let them sort it out later. 0.92

00:20:46.020 I just loved a lot of you killing in the sky. 1.00

00:20:51.000 Motherfucker, you need a – 1.00

00:20:51.940 And he's just like, no fucking clue, man. 1.00

00:20:54.940 Yeah, there you go. 0.99

00:20:55.700 I'm still thinking how he said I didn't read books and I'm proud of it.

00:21:01.020 It reminds me of that scene from Turtle Park Boys where he's like, I'm self-learned.

00:21:06.620 Well, like, I was walking with my lieutenant that day, like, after we'd arrested the deaf guy.

00:21:11.240 We'd separated a family on the bridge when we closed the checkpoint. 0.96

00:21:14.460 Like, we, like, we separated a mom from her two, like, fucking 12-year-old kids who were on the esplanade. 0.97

00:21:20.280 And we didn't know where they were. 0.99

00:21:22.460 That only happens at the border.

00:21:23.540 That only happens at the border, Justin.

00:21:25.340 I don't believe you.

00:21:26.880 Did you have to tell the deaf guy that he has the right to remain silent? 0.96

00:21:29.980 No, I just fucking detained him and handed him over to a Boston cop, and they were like, what did he do? 0.93

00:21:34.040 I'm like, I don't know. 0.98

00:21:34.840 And I walked off.

00:21:36.280 And I was just going, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:40.500 He's madly signing.

00:21:42.820 Well, literally, like, two hours after that.

00:21:45.760 He's going like this.

00:21:46.560 I don't know what he's doing.

00:21:47.520 His lawyer gets involved.

00:21:49.100 Like, no, put your hands away.

00:21:50.520 Like, hey, do you guys know how Ayn Rand lost both of her arms?

00:21:53.860 Or, sorry, not Ayn Rand.

00:21:56.680 Helen Keller?

00:21:58.940 Famous deaf and blind woman.

00:22:00.780 Do you know how Helen Keller lost both of her arms?

00:22:04.620 Reading a stop sign?

00:22:05.720 Or no, that's it?

00:22:06.240 Yeah, reading a stop sign.

00:22:07.320 Yeah.

00:22:09.520 No, okay.

00:22:10.420 So it was, like, two hours after we detained that dude.

00:22:13.240 And, like, it was, like, I was delivering lunch to all the soldiers under my command.

00:22:17.720 And, like, I had a lieutenant walking with me. 0.99

00:22:19.800 This kid is fucking 21 years old. 0.99

00:22:21.760 He had graduated from college, like, three days earlier. 0.99

00:22:24.500 And, like, the ink was still wet on his commission.

00:22:27.000 Like, this was his first assignment as a lieutenant in the Army. 1.00

00:22:30.040 And, like, when I got introduced to him, I'm like, fuck. 0.99

00:22:33.080 But he's like, O'Donnell, you're in charge. 0.99

00:22:34.680 I'm like, oh, you're the smartest officer in the Army.

00:22:36.800 Congratulations.

00:22:38.020 But we're walking along, and we had mobile camera units running facial recognition all along the Boston Esplanade. 0.98

00:22:45.020 And this dude just fucking sits down in a lawn chair in the sidewalk underneath one of these mobile camera units and starts reading a book. 0.95

00:22:52.840 And it was a book I did read. 0.99

00:22:54.380 I remembered it from high school.

00:22:55.980 And I just started laughing my ass off.

00:22:58.340 And the lieutenant's like, what's so funny?

00:23:00.140 I'm like, he's reading 1984.

00:23:02.400 And the lieutenant's like, and this college-educated lieutenant's like, why is that?

00:23:07.180 It's funny.

00:23:07.900 And then I had to explain the plot of 1984 to this college-educated second lieutenant. 1.00

00:23:13.380 And as I'm, like, explaining, I'm like, oh, fuck. 0.99

00:23:16.740 He's like, what? 0.99

00:23:17.220 I'm like, where are the bad guys?

00:23:21.220 I thought it was going to be Huck Finn, and we'd know why you're laughing about that. 1.00

00:23:25.180 Dude, lieutenants are fucking jokes. 0.99

00:23:27.280 Like, a lot of people know I just got out. 1.00

00:23:29.380 But, like, dude, it's like being, like, a 30-year-old.

00:23:31.500 How was the closet, by the way?

00:23:33.620 Yeah, it was great. 0.99

00:23:34.520 But they're, like, some 22-year-old that clearly doesn't know shit. 0.98

00:23:38.440 And they're, like, and they're technically in charge. 0.99

00:23:40.840 They really aren't. 0.99

00:23:41.640 They're just some, like, senior NCOs bitch, basically. 1.00

00:23:44.320 Usually is how it works, at least where I was at in the Air Force. 0.96

00:23:47.420 But, like, I don't know. 0.99

00:23:48.520 It's fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:23:49.600 Hey, shit. 1.00

00:23:50.780 MD in the comment says that my tweet was in the LNC investigation. 1.00

00:23:54.600 Which one?

00:23:55.040 That's pretty funny.

00:24:00.180 Probably.

00:24:00.620 You know, they never came to talk to me.

00:24:02.560 I never got an interview request from the investigation. 0.99

00:24:05.280 The investigation was a fucking waste of time. 0.91

00:24:07.780 Wait, so did you guys hear the Mises Caucus Facebook page got removed temporarily? 0.97

00:24:12.820 And a few people told me it was from one of the memes I shared on Twitter,

00:24:17.260 and someone screenshotted it.

00:24:19.220 I want to say it was me.

00:24:20.860 It was you.

00:24:21.280 I literally did the, um, I literally added the McCain and then McCain't meme,

00:24:29.400 and that's how I uploaded that.

00:24:30.700 And then it, like, got, and then their page went down, like, an hour later.

00:24:34.020 I actually heard it was something way more tame than that, actually.

00:24:37.320 I don't know if it was mine, but I just, like, thinking it was.

00:24:41.420 I love it when we get embroiled in LP drama, especially when they get shitty at us,

00:24:45.560 and it's, like, or when people, like, especially with me, 0.96

00:24:47.880 where they try to be, like, oh, you're fucking some LP podcast. 0.97

00:24:50.580 I'm, like, I couldn't be any fucking clearer. 0.98

00:24:52.500 I don't know what you're talking about. 0.97

00:24:55.880 Okay.

00:24:57.440 Like, sure.

00:24:58.220 Okay.

00:24:58.540 Like, it's, like, I always find myself having to be, like, I'm not associated with them,

00:25:01.940 but at the same time, I'm kind of, like, if it gives you a negative view,

00:25:05.460 yeah, I'm associated.

00:25:09.240 Reed, how haven't you gotten blocked by Meghan McCain yet?

00:25:12.500 Dude, I don't know.

00:25:13.420 Like, it's, like, or Marianne Williamson.

00:25:17.160 She won't block any of us.

00:25:18.660 Marianne still believes there's good in us.

00:25:22.540 Oh, yeah, but Marianne probably just literally thinks it's wrong to block people. 1.00

00:25:26.740 Like, legitimately, like.

00:25:28.280 She realizes we were right, you know, about, especially about the war in Afghanistan.

00:25:32.520 Oh, she has admitted it.

00:25:34.020 She has recanted everything and admitted she was wrong in her argument with us,

00:25:38.380 but that we were still mean.

00:25:39.620 Yeah, which I think she was bullied into submission. 1.00

00:25:43.380 I don't think she had a change of heart.

00:25:44.720 I think it was our bullying that did that.

00:25:46.560 She was like, okay, I'm fine.

00:25:48.080 Bullying works.

00:25:49.000 It does.

00:25:49.320 It does work.

00:25:50.840 Justin will probably want to.

00:25:52.080 I have no idea.

00:25:52.940 I mean, I take every chance I can.

00:25:54.980 Dude, it's just Reed. 0.99

00:25:56.580 Like, Reed is, like, the fucking lightning rod. 0.99

00:25:58.720 Because I had gotten Marianne to agree to come on the show. 0.99

00:26:01.820 You know, back and forth. 0.99

00:26:03.720 We had set a fucking date. 0.99

00:26:05.380 And, like, I texted Reed. 0.98

00:26:06.640 I'm like, yeah, I'm going to bring you on as a co-host for that episode.

00:26:09.800 Reed puts up one tweet.

00:26:11.120 He's like, I'm going to be on Justin's show with Marianne. 0.99

00:26:13.500 Fucking canceled. 0.99

00:26:17.020 She's literally scared of me. 1.00

00:26:18.980 She's terrified.

00:26:20.420 Well, she's going to wind up being on Justin's show.

00:26:25.900 I'll get her eventually.

00:26:28.180 Justin and I stopped a white woman, by the way. 1.00

00:26:30.820 Like, all this white stuff we stopped. 0.87

00:26:32.740 We actually stopped her.

00:26:33.940 Like, she turned around and, you know, changed her direction.

00:26:37.260 She seems like one of the few.

00:26:41.020 Go ahead.

00:26:41.960 Apparently, the past couple of days, white women have been getting based. 1.00

00:26:44.880 Yeah, I know.

00:26:45.520 They need to be weaponized now.

00:26:47.200 Spikes on to something with weaponizing.

00:26:48.860 Yeah, we were thinking the same thing.

00:26:50.900 Well, you have to, like, I mean, if there's something coming after you,

00:26:54.660 you have to stop it first before you can turn it around and shift it back the other way.

00:26:58.520 So, if we got done with the white women, we must be stopped. 1.00

00:27:03.000 We are now to the second phase. 1.00

00:27:05.340 By the way, the last phase is where we kill them all. 0.99

00:27:08.100 So, just wait for that. 0.99

00:27:09.280 Well, I was going to say, you can weaponize the man stuff.

00:27:11.460 If we stop them, strap the mess on, send them back.

00:27:14.580 That's exactly what I was going to say. 0.99

00:27:16.260 God damn it. 1.00

00:27:17.340 You play the long con like me. 1.00

00:27:18.920 You breed with them.

00:27:19.780 You create little, like, you know.

00:27:21.300 I actually have a horde of white women with me. 1.00

00:27:23.560 But, you know, I'm fucking – I'm kind of infiltrating the system, you know. 1.00

00:27:26.900 You have to fuck sense into them, basically. 0.99

00:27:29.300 That's what you have to do. 0.99

00:27:32.060 But I did want to mention that Marianne is probably one of the few, like, weird women politicians 1.00

00:27:37.940 that actually will change her mind just because I think she's just a very nice lady. 1.00

00:27:42.200 She's a populist because at heart she just wants to be liked. 0.96

00:27:45.640 She's a sweetheart. 1.00

00:27:46.460 She's just dumb. 1.00

00:27:47.480 I thought it was just that she was high. 1.00

00:27:50.000 Rita, this is a good question.

00:27:51.180 When am I – so I move machines.

00:27:55.260 Like, I don't – I mean, people – I posted a meme about this a couple weeks ago because

00:27:58.800 people are always like, when are you going to stop hauling stuff? 0.98

00:28:01.920 I was like, the fucking country doesn't rely on me. 0.95

00:28:04.800 Like, I move big drills and excavators and bulldozers. 0.99

00:28:09.260 Like, I'm not moving toilet paper and groceries and shit that people actually need immediately.

00:28:14.060 So – 0.82

00:28:14.400 So you mean you'd be a larger obstacle for blocking off areas?

00:28:17.240 Right.

00:28:17.580 You mean you could block off an entire interstate yourself.

00:28:21.180 It's actually probably like an eight-lane interstate when I've got the long trailer

00:28:26.700 on.

00:28:27.620 But for the audio version, the question was, when is Reid going to organize all the U.S.

00:28:31.660 truckers like the Aussies are doing? 0.99

00:28:33.620 And I would say that you might be able to make more of an impact if the fact is that you're

00:28:37.740 hauling things that are like higher order capital goods.

00:28:41.440 That might have more of an impact on the supply chain. 0.90

00:28:43.520 Yeah.

00:28:43.740 Like windmill blades.

00:28:46.120 All right.

00:28:47.020 Okay.

00:28:47.500 That was an amazing video.

00:28:51.740 Holler at me, force mommy. 1.00

00:28:52.980 My wife's like five foot. 1.00

00:28:54.080 So I need to breed some taller ones.

00:28:56.220 So –

00:28:56.460 Taller ones?

00:29:01.340 Jose's kids are just wide.

00:29:03.680 Well, luckily they're girls. 1.00

00:29:05.240 Like, I feel bad.

00:29:06.100 Like, if I had a son, I'm going to create like a –

00:29:08.020 I mean, I legit would make Wolverine. 0.87

00:29:09.660 So anyone who knows comics, Wolverine the comic is like 5'2", fucking 300 pounds, like 0.97

00:29:14.100 of raw muscle. 0.98

00:29:15.400 So like, yeah, if I – if we had a son, I'd probably make fucking Wolverine. 0.99

00:29:19.020 But luckily we only created daughters. 0.99

00:29:21.640 So it's like – it's acceptable to be like a five-foot-three woman. 1.00

00:29:24.680 No one gives a shit. 0.99

00:29:25.520 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:29:25.860 It's like, oh, you're cute.

00:29:26.320 You're not super hairy though, are you, Jose?

00:29:28.220 It's kind of a kink. 0.90

00:29:29.400 Not really.

00:29:29.880 I mean, I'm a little hairy.

00:29:31.200 I mean, I'm not like hairless, but I'm not hairy either. 0.95

00:29:33.100 I'm no fucking Reid. 0.92

00:29:34.040 Dude, you can't – we've all seen like the nudes that Jose has dropped on the 0.97

00:29:38.640 timeline, so I think you know the answer to that question.

00:29:41.280 Well, I kind of have the – I have a good little like a little bit of hair here and

00:29:43.920 I kind of get a little like treasure trail down to the goods, you know?

00:29:47.620 You have to trail, baby.

00:29:48.820 A landing strip.

00:29:50.180 Yeah.

00:29:51.100 I've always thought about doing one of those.

00:29:53.060 My wife would not have it.

00:29:58.180 Oh, man.

00:29:58.920 Oh, geez.

00:29:59.480 What's up, Forrest? 1.00

00:30:00.280 He's spicking the dick. 1.00

00:30:04.560 Jesus. 1.00

00:30:05.160 Goddamn cheese wheel. 1.00

00:30:09.260 Even though that nude you dropped only just had. 1.00

00:30:13.340 I've loved seeing people on Twitter trying to claim that Forrest Mommy's a catfish. 0.90

00:30:20.980 It would be the long con, by the way.

00:30:23.520 I mean –

00:30:23.820 Oh, yeah.

00:30:24.500 No, she's a thirst trap. 1.00

00:30:26.140 I can't wait to see Forrest Mommy on MTV and she just looks like Justin. 1.00

00:30:33.880 Forrest Mommy, eggs are my favorite fucking meal. 0.99

00:30:39.360 Forrest Mommy is taller than Jose, apparently. 0.99

00:30:42.720 Not that that's that shocking, but taller than I am as well.

00:30:48.460 So –

00:30:49.420 Favorite woman is a catfish. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Yeah, I mean, you think they're awesome and then you hold them down for a while and you realize what the fuck is going on here. 0.99

00:30:59.160 And they all smell like fish. 0.97

00:31:05.340 So on a serious note, the whole general strike thing is, was the left right last year and we all just ignored them and then that's what we're actually supposed to do is just shut everything down?

00:31:15.100 Burn it to the ground.

00:31:16.500 That's what the left was talking about last year. 1.00

00:31:18.400 They wanted a general strike during all the COVID shit. 0.99

00:31:21.120 And now we're starting to say it. 0.98

00:31:24.440 So maybe –

00:31:24.820 Yeah, but where are they going to shut down? 1.00

00:31:25.960 They don't produce shit. 0.99

00:31:27.900 I promise them work anyway. 0.99

00:31:30.040 So it was like –

00:31:31.000 Well, okay.

00:31:31.920 Ooh.

00:31:32.720 This is one of my ongoing disagreements with libertarians and the right in general is the whole notion of peaceful protest. 0.99

00:31:41.100 Fucking – 0.98

00:31:41.740 Protest by its very nature is a violent action because protest doesn't accomplish anything unless you're inconveniencing people or you're fucking hurting their livelihoods or you're doing something to get their attention to make them pay attention to what you're protesting for. 1.00

00:31:53.640 The reason the left has so much success is because 20 dudes will go out and demand something and if they don't get it, they'll burn down fucking Oakland. 0.95

00:32:00.660 The right will send 10,000 law-abiding gun owners to the Virginia state capitol to protest gun control with all of their fucking military-grade hardware and say, 0.99

00:32:10.660 hey, we're going to obey the law and be polite and clean up after ourselves, the senators look out the fucking window and say, 0.99

00:32:15.940 ah, we got nothing to fucking worry about. 1.00

00:32:17.360 Pass that shit. 1.00

00:32:19.040 There's no fucking consequences for pissing off polite protest. 1.00

00:32:23.180 What about like January 6th though? 0.99

00:32:26.300 That was sort of based.

00:32:28.460 It didn't go far enough.

00:32:30.560 Yeah.

00:32:30.760 It was like they got as close as they could to based and they were just like – 0.87

00:32:34.340 No, no, the problem with January 6th is the fucking whole – people thinking that when insurrection – 0.99

00:32:39.380 No, an insurrection takes fucking planning. 1.00

00:32:41.380 Those people didn't have a fucking plan. 1.00

00:32:43.160 They were like a dog chasing a car. 1.00

00:32:44.780 They got there.

00:32:45.360 They caught it. 0.99

00:32:45.880 They're like, what the fuck do I do now? 0.97

00:32:47.860 They were doing just like – 0.93

00:32:49.040 It was basically –

00:32:50.360 It had the same energy as like senior skip day or senior prank day when you're in high school and you go and just like play a prank on your school.

00:32:56.560 It's just like, oh, yeah, you broke the rules a little bit and you were a little bit edgy, but you didn't really accomplish anything.

00:33:02.300 But I just pissed a couple people off.

00:33:04.340 Guys, we took some –

00:33:05.600 Tell them about your January 6th experience trying to get banned like Donald Trump.

00:33:09.240 Oh, my God.

00:33:09.720 All right, yeah. 0.99

00:33:10.160 No, that was fucking incredible. 0.98

00:33:11.900 So like I go to the fucking secret underground clubhouse in the Manchester, New Hampshire, and my buddy's sitting there freaking out and having a panic. 0.98

00:33:19.100 I'm like, what's going on? 0.97

00:33:19.920 He's like, there's a riot in D.C.

00:33:21.280 My brother's there.

00:33:22.000 I'm like, he's there.

00:33:22.740 He's on speakerphone. 0.99

00:33:23.720 His brother's like fucking broke down the barricades. 0.99

00:33:26.140 I'm like, oh, that sounds cool. 0.99

00:33:26.980 Put on the news.

00:33:27.900 I put on the news.

00:33:28.560 They're like, Donald Trump has been banned from Twitter.

00:33:30.240 I'm like, what for?

00:33:30.960 I go and try and find it, and he's like, be peaceful, go home, and love you all.

00:33:36.400 This has been a good ride, but we're going to fix it next time. 0.99

00:33:40.080 And like that's what got in the fucking band. 0.98

00:33:41.660 Like where's the bar? 0.99

00:33:43.000 Let's just see what I can do.

00:33:44.580 So I started responding to everybody like live tweeting that they were there like take hostages.

00:33:48.920 Like, Nancy Pelosi is guilty of crimes against humanity. 0.99

00:33:53.520 Like, put heads on pikes outside the Capitol building. 0.93

00:33:57.460 And then like somebody responded to me like, you're on fire today. 0.99

00:34:00.100 I'm like, unfortunately, the Capitol isn't burning the fucking one. 0.95

00:34:05.180 By the way, this is where I kind of disagree with you about the NAP thing because I feel like a lot of like some like the fucking basically Cato reason guys would be like, oh, the NAP, you shouldn't do this stuff about, you know, burning down the Capitol. 0.95

00:34:18.600 So they don't think that.

00:34:19.720 But a lot more libertarians are like, no, no, the government's been violating NAP this whole time. 0.98

00:34:24.440 So you are totally 100% fair to go and basically kill them for literally destroying your life. 0.80

00:34:32.000 I want to riff off – go ahead, go ahead. 0.98

00:34:34.420 Oh, no, no, I was just in agreement raising my hand.

00:34:36.360 Yeah, but I was saying like I don't think that's an argument against NAP.

00:34:39.720 It's more just an argument of people just like just thinking that no matter what, you should always be peaceful.

00:34:45.660 And it's just like unless you're a legit pacifist, which I mean Bob Murphy and Tom Woods, they technically are legit pacifists.

00:34:52.980 I'm pretty close to it.

00:34:54.420 Yeah, Toad.

00:34:55.100 But like they're also not saying you can't take up arms.

00:34:58.580 They're just like we won't do it, but you can't.

00:35:01.000 Like we think it's morally wrong and that's on our conscience.

00:35:03.580 But if – like we'd have no problem basically with – even the Revolutionary War was technically – I mean I feel like some people would try to make an argument that it was against NAP, but then they were getting taxed.

00:35:14.980 So basically even if it was only 2%.

00:35:17.080 Hey, just remember, freedom grows where cops are planted.

00:35:20.740 Planted is planted.

00:35:21.240 The same thing.

00:35:22.800 I do want to riff off – sorry.

00:35:25.080 You go ahead, Toad.

00:35:25.900 Oh, I was just going to say like I'm – I think I'm somewhere in the middle on that.

00:35:29.300 Like I mean I do believe in adhering to the NAP, but as Cole said, you have these people in the government that are obviously huge violators of the NAP.

00:35:37.860 And like I would not lose sleep over one of these – like any of these governors or anybody in Congress basically getting – you know, if something happens to them, whatever.

00:35:49.800 All right.

00:35:50.460 So here's the – like Kevin Smith blocked me.

00:35:53.280 Kevin Smith blocked me on Twitter because like he responded to my Timothy McVeigh tweet saying that like it was wrong and abhorrent to think that Timothy McVeigh was right.

00:36:01.640 And I responded to Kevin Smith with just a clip from clerks.

00:36:04.860 And it's a clip from clerks of them debating whether or not the contractors on the Death Star were culpable for the actions of the government.

00:36:13.860 Oh, yeah.

00:36:15.040 I mean I would argue the they thing.

00:36:17.180 As long as – if it wasn't for the kids, yes.

00:36:19.440 But like –

00:36:20.280 Okay.

00:36:20.700 He should have waited for daycare to get out.

00:36:22.560 Everyone else –

00:36:23.260 This goes back to my – this goes back to my question I asked, which was –

00:36:27.380 Who is –

00:36:28.000 Is it okay?

00:36:30.100 By the way, I did have to look it up in the – 0.98

00:36:33.100 Like I was on the side of like, who the fuck is Timothy McVeigh? 0.99

00:36:36.720 I want to touch on the NAP shit because I've been noticing a lot of people lately with their rhetoric is – some people don't get it. 0.99

00:36:43.720 Like it's – like for example, there's two things. 0.99

00:36:46.140 Like for example, the NAP thing and then like the public-private divide.

00:36:49.180 There's a lot of people that have this rhetoric of like, oh, well, we have to be in the real world and like not in principle world or some shit like that. 1.00

00:36:55.100 But it's like, well, first off, if your principles don't imply real world, they're shit. 0.98

00:36:58.920 You need to get better principles. 0.99

00:37:00.540 Two, it's like, okay, well, these like – for example, like the public-private, it's like – it's a fucking – it's not a binary. 0.95

00:37:08.940 It's a spectrum. 0.92

00:37:09.460 Like Amazon is not a private company.

00:37:11.680 It's just not. 0.99

00:37:12.660 Like and then with the NAP, it's like the government fucking by its existence fucking aggresses against you. 0.99

00:37:18.120 Violence, yeah. 0.98

00:37:18.420 So that also doesn't mean that you are obligated to fucking aggress back at them. 0.85

00:37:23.760 It doesn't – like for example, when a cop pulls you over, yes, they're breaking NAP. 0.99

00:37:27.440 That doesn't mean you have to blow their brains out.

00:37:29.140 That means you're morally – it's morally acceptable for you to do so.

00:37:33.220 Maybe not to that extent.

00:37:35.340 It might not be proportional.

00:37:36.720 It's not proportional, I would say.

00:37:39.400 All right.

00:37:39.940 I want to respond to Nick in the comments here.

00:37:43.540 Bring up Nick's comment, so flippant to both 20 children.

00:37:45.840 By the way, I did want to ask.

00:37:47.020 So Nick said that Tom wasn't a pacifist.

00:37:50.720 I may be wrong there.

00:37:51.640 I thought Tom was a pacifist.

00:37:53.620 Bob is, and they had a debate about it.

00:37:56.020 I thought Tom was just taking the devil's advocate there.

00:37:58.520 A pacifist is somebody who's never been hungry. 1.00

00:38:03.760 The fucking Amish, man. 1.00

00:38:05.320 They're always so hungry. 1.00

00:38:06.420 The people who can claim pacifism as a realistic ideology have never fucking suffered, never fucking worried. 0.98

00:38:11.860 They've led a privileged existence, and they've never fucking been hungry. 0.91

00:38:15.420 They've never had to contemplate what it would mean that their survival is dependent on somebody else's misfortune. 0.96

00:38:21.220 Those people are privileged, and I don't care to understand them. 1.00

00:38:24.700 Fuck them. 1.00

00:38:25.620 By the way, so you have to believe the Amish exist? 1.00

00:38:27.800 Like, just don't at all? 1.00

00:38:29.080 No, they're fucking privileged fucking fucks. 1.00

00:38:31.600 Like, they don't participate in society. 1.00

00:38:35.000 They don't understand the fucking downfall of society. 1.00

00:38:38.040 And, like, to Nick's point, I'm so flippant about the deaths of fucking 20 children. 1.00

00:38:41.380 I'm flippant about the deaths of 20 fucking children because how many fucking hundreds of thousands of children are dead because of the actions of fucking government? 0.99

00:38:49.060 What's 20 more? 1.00

00:38:49.840 I don't care at this point because at this point, it's a statistic. 1.00

00:38:54.260 It's a fucking number. 0.99

00:38:55.320 There's no personal connection. 1.00

00:38:56.740 Move the fuck on and grow up. 0.99

00:38:58.480 I don't care about the individual at that point because it is a statistic. 1.00

00:39:02.400 If you kill one man, it's a tragedy. 1.00

00:39:04.140 If you kill 100, it's a fucking statistic. 1.00

00:39:06.460 If you kill 1,000, you've conquered a country. 1.00

00:39:08.620 And if you kill everyone, you're a god because what is a god but the farmer to the cow? 1.00

00:39:14.280 It doesn't fucking matter. 1.00

00:39:15.960 Getting your panties in a twist about clutching pearls, about respectability politics, when the government is actually trying to destroy your life and you are unwilling to say mean things back, fuck yourself. 1.00

00:39:31.500 Well, it is a weird thing because I asked a question to everybody. 1.00

00:39:36.220 Oh, man.

00:39:36.760 I do want to say – sorry.

00:39:38.360 Let me cut you off.

00:39:39.360 Go ahead.

00:39:39.960 Okay.

00:39:40.480 I do want to finish it because so I asked and I think I maybe even put it on – tweeted about it.

00:39:45.080 I think I did.

00:39:46.460 About – is it justifiable to go after a tyrant's family? 0.99

00:39:52.160 And what's weird is that Nick took the – yes, it's totally okay because they go after your family every fucking day. 0.98

00:39:58.460 So if you need to go after their kids, go after the kids because they would go after your kids. 0.97

00:40:02.720 And so it's kind of –

00:40:04.320 Let me – to get Nick's defense, he's not here.

00:40:07.680 I actually – we talked about this to get his perspective.

00:40:09.780 He was looking at it from a logistical perspective where it's like if for some reason it's like – I don't know. 0.99

00:40:15.640 Say you're like – you think this kid may grow up and fucking kill you or there's some fucking reason where it's necessary. 0.98

00:40:22.040 Like if you're not – if you don't feel like it's necessary, it's one thing. 0.99

00:40:24.460 But with the Timothy McVeigh thing, one, I 100% like agree it's not – that was a NAP violation. 0.97

00:40:31.920 Like we're playing NAP like fucking – that's NAP violation. 0.99

00:40:35.700 The innocents were killed. 0.99

00:40:36.840 And then also even then from the logistical side of things, that served nothing.

00:40:41.760 Like if anything, that was a detriment. 0.99

00:40:43.340 Like doing shit like that especially – it would have been one thing if no fucking like innocents had been murdered. 0.99

00:40:48.940 You could make a justification. 0.99

00:40:50.060 I would even say even then I don't think that works. 0.98

00:40:52.320 I think all that does is give the government a fucking – a enemy to go after. 0.95

00:40:56.920 Yeah, strategically it's bad as we saw with the 1-6-7. 1.00

00:41:00.200 So not only is that morally stupid, it's fucking logistically stupid as well. 0.99

00:41:04.360 So I honestly don't see you having a leg to stand on the air to be honest. 1.00

00:41:07.460 Well, yeah.

00:41:09.580 It's not about whether or not it's morally okay. 0.95

00:41:12.140 It's not about whether or not it's fucking logistically okay. 0.95

00:41:15.060 It's about whether or not you care so fucking little about actually fighting back that you care about the respectability rather than the action. 0.97

00:41:26.180 You're talking about fighting back, but don't you want it to actually be meaningful? 0.99

00:41:29.560 If you're fighting back and it's making things worse, what's the fucking point? 0.98

00:41:32.780 Like you're just making things worse for yourself. 0.98

00:41:35.220 Not only is it morally wrong – and I come from a sterner perspective, so I don't even – like I'm kind of in a sense think above morals in a sense.

00:41:41.500 So I'm kind of coming from you, except for I actually read. 0.98

00:41:44.720 But like fucking – 1.00

00:41:45.660 It would be like if your wife was getting mad at you and arguing with you, so you just stab her. 1.00

00:41:49.480 And you're like, well, I finished it.

00:41:51.960 Yeah, there's nothing – I don't feel like there's any reason at all this can be – like even from respectability, like what are you just doing just to spite the politicians?

00:42:01.880 Because you're serving no one.

00:42:03.280 Hey, I firmly believe – I firmly believe that the closest thing we can get to a just government would be an absolute dictatorship with a healthy dose of assassination.

00:42:14.360 Someone just threw a hundred bucks at Tower Gang.

00:42:16.400 You have no way.

00:42:17.660 Yeah, MD, thank you.

00:42:20.280 I thought it was $10.

00:42:22.100 Yeah, MD says you nerds alleviate my boredom.

00:42:25.380 Dude, you put an extra zero in there, man.

00:42:27.360 Yeah, MD thought it was $10 too accidentally.

00:42:29.880 Probably. 1.00

00:42:31.560 You're making us feel like whores, man. 0.99

00:42:33.960 I know. 0.99

00:42:34.700 I feel so bad right now.

00:42:35.720 Hey, everybody has a price.

00:42:37.160 You just haven't reached my –

00:42:38.280 Pretty much.

00:42:39.280 That's true.

00:42:39.600 Well, to Justin's point, even though I don't really agree with this because he's really taking like a utilitarian perspective on this.

00:42:46.800 It's not utilitarian either though.

00:42:48.040 That's my whole point.

00:42:48.900 It's neither.

00:42:49.980 You're right.

00:42:50.680 You're right.

00:42:51.160 I guess it's –

00:42:51.820 He's taking –

00:42:52.740 Well, okay. 0.99

00:42:53.400 I'm taking my own fucking idea. 0.99

00:42:54.960 It's not good. 0.99

00:42:55.340 It's not good.

00:42:55.380 It's not good.

00:42:55.400 It's not good.

00:42:55.480 It's not good.

00:42:55.960 It's definitely weighing the end over the means for sure.

00:42:59.880 But just to play devil's advocate with Jose a little bit, if you had enough people that agreed with you, there are more people than there are people in the government.

00:43:10.220 So strategically, if you had enough people, it would not necessarily be a failure.

00:43:14.240 By the way, I also did – we were talking about the NAP in our chat the other day.

00:43:19.420 I think it was last week.

00:43:20.860 And Jose was basically bashing out.

00:43:22.840 And I was like, hey, I think a lot of people put more into the NAP than actually what it is.

00:43:27.880 Because to me, and what I've seen, it's like it's just basically an outline of how to serve justice and just looking at, okay, who aggressed on who?

00:43:35.780 How do we know who aggressed?

00:43:36.700 So we'll just look at the NAP who was the first one to aggress – who was non-aggressing and who was.

00:43:41.560 All right, then any action after that taken by the one aggressed upon is basically morally okay, but we'll just kind of figure out the justice system after that.

00:43:49.060 So it's like you can apply things like is the government aggressing on us?

00:43:52.460 Yes.

00:43:52.760 By the NAP, they are.

00:43:53.720 Therefore, at that point, it's just kind of like, okay, the NAP, we've finished that part of this whole thing we're supposed to go through.

00:44:01.720 Now what happens after that doesn't really have to do with the NAP anymore.

00:44:05.700 It's just basically, okay, now it's just tactics.

00:44:07.620 Are you guys familiar with the actual history of how the American Revolution started, of what preceded Concord and Lexington?

00:44:15.160 What led to General Gage issuing the order for troops to march on Lexington and Concord to confiscate guns?

00:44:20.820 Do you know what that order was in response to? 0.99

00:44:25.600 Do you know how I give a shit about 1776? 0.98

00:44:27.860 No, I don't remember. 0.98

00:44:29.700 What happened?

00:44:30.380 Hashtag what happened in 1776.

00:44:32.680 Tower Gang history lesson.

00:44:34.720 Go for it.

00:44:35.660 I'm curious.

00:44:36.220 The Hillsborough County Sheriff and the Boston Royal Tax Collector rolled up to a pine tree farm in Henneker, New Hampshire to collect lumber taxes on the king's lumber. 0.77

00:44:46.680 And the people of Henneker, New Hampshire got so fucking pissed at the notion of fucking taxation that they beat the tax collector into near death, tarred and feathered him, strapped him to the back of a horse, cut off the horse's tail and ears, and sent the horse in the direction of Boston, dragging him behind it with a note that said, come and collect your taxes.

00:45:12.400 And what's the current tax rate? 0.96

00:45:14.820 I was going to say tarring and feathering, and I would have been correct, but I didn't know the specifics of what happened.

00:45:20.380 They got so fed up that they – and mind you, do you know where they found him, where they got the tax collector?

00:45:26.820 They broke into his home, bound his family, and beat him in bed.

00:45:33.800 Wow.

00:45:34.660 Man.

00:45:35.480 I bet the taxes were also like 1% too.

00:45:38.920 It wasn't like he was asking – it's probably so insignificant to what we're used to today.

00:45:44.460 I'm saying to their credit. 0.99

00:45:46.840 They didn't take any shit at all. 0.99

00:45:49.380 It was the notion that they could be taxed, and they saw being taxed as enough of an aggression to beat a man near to death and to torture him. 0.99

00:45:59.460 But what's weird is –

00:46:00.480 I feel like I agree with what Jose said, but I'm just trying to – so what you are saying, Justin, is the problem is that people think that you can accomplish your goals without innocent people getting hurt or the appearance and how that comes across.

00:46:16.840 Is that what you're saying?

00:46:17.540 There has never been a successful peaceful revolution.

00:46:21.200 Gandhi didn't get India's independence through peaceful protest.

00:46:25.460 Gandhi's peaceful protest just brought light to the violence that Muslim separatists in Bangladesh were fighting.

00:46:30.960 Martin Luther King didn't achieve social change in the United States through peaceful means.

00:46:36.200 They actually did it through occupation of private property and deprivation of property rights to private property owners in the south and violent action and threat by the Black Panthers to back up everything they were saying. 0.82

00:46:46.020 There has never been a successful cultural or social or political change that didn't have collateral damage.

00:46:53.060 So what's the line?

00:46:54.720 Like where do you draw a line when something's too far?

00:46:57.740 Once you let that principle go, is it just the ends justify the means?

00:47:02.600 Is that all it comes down to?

00:47:04.060 Sure.

00:47:06.100 The line is written by the winner.

00:47:09.040 So it is the end.

00:47:10.000 So yes.

00:47:11.920 Historically, the lines will be justified by the victor in conflict is how it always comes out.

00:47:17.700 Whatever was taken to succeed will be justified after the fact.

00:47:20.720 No, but do you think human nature and human history, which I think is this vicious cycle, which I mean, for me, like with 1776, I actually think it served no one. 1.00

00:47:29.620 I know we have this romantic view of the fucking revolution, but if you look at it from a hysterical from a historical perspective without this fucking like shit, we've been raised up in this fucking propaganda and shit. 0.98

00:47:40.340 I don't think it worked out that well. 1.00

00:47:42.280 What we have now is worse than being under the British monarchy.

00:47:45.480 Well, honestly, I do want to push back on that because if you do look at the ones that were under the British monarch still to the day, like basically Australia, Canada, we are in a better position than they are.

00:47:56.600 So, I mean, at least even just incrementally better.

00:47:59.720 So, I mean, that's all I want to say.

00:48:00.960 We're in a better place than Britain is right now.

00:48:03.880 Yeah, that's true.

00:48:04.800 A little different.

00:48:05.500 But yeah, I get what you mean.

00:48:06.860 If we never revolted against them. 1.00

00:48:09.920 But even then, I mean, Australia was a fucking criminal colony. 0.99

00:48:12.840 So, I mean, there's a whole bunch of other factors involved. 0.99

00:48:15.080 The problem with Australia is that too many people were descended from prison guards. 1.00

00:48:21.560 Oh, the guards instead of the fucking. 1.00

00:48:24.880 The Congress just formed freedom. 1.00

00:48:27.400 That's true.

00:48:28.300 Well, by the way, what's really weird, too, is like if you ask basically anybody in America, like if they like taxes, all of them be like, hell no.

00:48:36.860 Like they were like, we want less taxes.

00:48:38.440 We want this, all this. 0.99

00:48:39.600 I even got fucking shoe on head to admit she hates taxes. 1.00

00:48:42.980 Yeah. 0.99

00:48:43.420 And she's the darling of the progressive left.

00:48:45.760 And you only got to do that because of us, by the way.

00:48:50.620 But like you asked them that and they're like, no, we don't want to pay more taxes.

00:48:54.780 We don't like taxes.

00:48:55.600 If you gave them the choice of you can either don't pay taxes or you do.

00:48:59.460 And they're like, no, I would rather not pay them.

00:49:02.420 But, I mean, it comes to basically, I mean, I'm talking to myself here, too.

00:49:06.700 Like, then we still just pay them anyway.

00:49:09.280 Like, we're still just like, yep. 0.99

00:49:10.300 So, the fucking Pheasant Lane Mall in Nashua, New Hampshire is the perfect fucking example of this. 0.99

00:49:16.600 When they built that mall, they didn't do a proper land survey. 0.99

00:49:20.520 And so, a corner of one of the box stores, I think it was Macy's, just a corner of Macy's.

00:49:25.060 It's like 15 total square feet of each of the three levels of Macy's was in Massachusetts.

00:49:30.620 And so, Massachusetts came back and said, you owe us sales taxes.

00:49:34.840 And Macy's is like, fine, we'll pay Massachusetts sales taxes.

00:49:39.880 And Massachusetts is like, no, no, the whole mall owes us sales taxes.

00:49:44.160 So, they demolished the wall. 0.99

00:49:46.140 And now, if you look at it on a map, it's a cornered fucking wall. 0.99

00:49:49.440 The wall just runs directly along the border. 1.00

00:49:51.520 But still, still, because the people in Massachusetts keep voting for these fucking tax increases. 1.00

00:49:56.840 Keep voting for their fucking sales taxes to fund all their fucking lofty social programs. 0.99

00:50:01.440 Yet, there's not a single New Hampshire plate in that parking lot. 0.99

00:50:05.120 It's all Massachusetts plates driving over the border to shop tax break.

00:50:08.560 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:50:09.680 Yeah, sales tax being nothing in New Hampshire and a bitch in Massachusetts. 1.00

00:50:14.460 What is sales tax in Massachusetts, by the way? 0.99

00:50:17.020 I think it's like six and a half now is what it's up to or some shit like that. 0.98

00:50:20.780 Damn, that's – in Alabama, it's 10%. 0.99

00:50:24.660 Wait, what? 0.99

00:50:26.980 It's like either 9% to 10%.

00:50:28.780 Yeah.

00:50:29.780 All right, I want to – let's – I want to touch on – there's two more things we want to hit on,

00:50:33.660 or at least one that we really want to hit on and one that I want to hit on.

00:50:36.760 You had a take that I thought was pretty retarded a little bit ago. 1.00

00:50:40.320 It was – you basically said that both fucking socialism and capitalism were retarded, essentially, which – 0.98

00:50:47.200 But you're basically like they both require a state backing them up, which I – 0.99

00:50:51.080 I don't understand taking that perspective.

00:50:53.880 I am very much of the opinion that like words are subjective, so I can understand.

00:50:58.800 Like I just did – I literally just dropped today my episode with Ace on Benjamin Tucker.

00:51:03.020 Benjamin Tucker was a noted anarcho-socialist.

00:51:04.860 And in that, he literally goes – breaks it entirely down, his view. 0.99

00:51:09.300 And like legit, you could all – like 99% of fucking ANCAPs, if you had them read that fucking essay 0.99

00:51:16.760 and just swapped out socialism with capitalism, they wouldn't know the fucking difference. 0.99

00:51:20.220 They just genuinely wouldn't. 0.97

00:51:21.500 And so it's one of those things where we're kind of – a lot of times the socialists and the capitalists

00:51:24.740 are talking past each other.

00:51:25.900 So – but I also don't understand taking the perspective of like basically negating both sides of it.

00:51:32.440 So like you said, words are subjective.

00:51:34.640 Words are subjective.

00:51:35.580 And if I want to make that argument, I'm making that argument in the context of colloquial use of the words.

00:51:39.920 What is capitalism used to mean today?

00:51:41.680 It's not used to mean what you want it to mean.

00:51:43.760 It's not used to mean free exchange, open markets, voluntary exchange.

00:51:47.820 It's used to mean corporate structure and profiteering.

00:51:51.400 And guess what?

00:51:52.140 That's actually the historical usage of the term. 0.96

00:51:54.080 When Marx fucking coined the term, that's what he used it to describe was corporate profiteering 0.85

00:51:58.560 and the leveraging of capital to make more money. 0.99

00:52:01.000 And the left has stuck to that fucking definition. 0.99

00:52:03.160 The left has stuck hard. 0.99

00:52:04.680 And the right has tried to reclaim capitalism to be about free markets and free trade. 0.98

00:52:08.520 And it just hasn't fucking worked. 0.98

00:52:10.160 Because you go and ask Joe Schmo, educated fucking college sophomore, what their opinion on capitalism is, 1.00

00:52:15.300 you're going to get a fucking shriek about fucking corporate greed and fucking stock markets. 1.00

00:52:19.900 That's what they believe capitalism is. 1.00

00:52:21.640 And that is inherently a state structure.

00:52:23.380 The same as communism is.

00:52:25.060 Communism and socialism are not the same thing.

00:52:27.200 Socialism is a utilitarian, mutualist ideal of people helping people.

00:52:32.460 Communism is state action to enforce that.

00:52:35.720 Communism and capitalism, as currently used today, those terms currently used today,

00:52:40.400 both require state institutions to maintain.

00:52:42.620 And I believe in a post-state solution will be inherently panarchist with a multitude of competing voluntary economic systems, 0.97

00:52:51.740 because I'm going to want to buy my meat from the fucking socialist commune up in Henneker. 0.98

00:52:56.040 And they're probably going to need to fucking come to me to handle fucking getting electric fucking shipped out there and fucking support on their solar panels to keep the farm running. 0.97

00:53:04.360 Like, the capitalist cities and the mutualist farms and communes will coexist peacefully without the interference of the state and without the social action tearing them apart. 0.98

00:53:13.540 Okay, but I would push back on that and say that we literally have four people in here who would completely disagree with you.

00:53:19.800 So their point there, therefore, is mute.

00:53:21.840 So, like, I get what you're saying, but pretty much...

00:53:24.600 I think Dave's about to... I think Fat Dave's coming around.

00:53:26.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I've come around to the fact that...

00:53:30.440 So, did you post that just to shitpost and rile up ancaps, basically?

00:53:35.760 Yeah.

00:53:36.640 Okay.

00:53:39.000 It would make more sense to say you're both right than it would to say you're both wrong.

00:53:44.420 Wait, Justin.

00:53:45.160 You know what I mean?

00:53:46.160 Justin, I think...

00:53:47.300 Yeah, can I name...

00:53:48.500 I'll come around to your side if you can come up with a name for my show that rhymes and isn't, like, too hard to...

00:53:53.900 A little naturalist-capitalist thing is working out well, so you're...

00:53:58.180 Naturalist-panarchist.

00:53:59.340 This is really easy. 0.96

00:54:00.240 You can just be the nude dude. 0.94

00:54:03.840 The nude naturalist-mutualist. 0.60

00:54:05.880 I mean, most...

00:54:07.320 When I hear libertarians describing their idea of capitalism as free and voluntary exchange,

00:54:12.260 absent state intervention in state markets,

00:54:14.460 what I hear is mutualism, what I hear is voluntarism, what I hear is agorism. 1.00

00:54:18.080 Use these fucking words. 1.00

00:54:19.260 Normalize these fucking words, because you've lost the fight for capitalism. 1.00

00:54:22.000 I agree, but I don't agree. 0.99

00:54:24.000 A lot of people do use market or, you know, free market enterprise.

00:54:28.020 Like, a lot of them use those words.

00:54:29.380 I mean, I guess capitalism has become just an easy thing to go to, more or less.

00:54:33.600 And I guess I do get your thing of, like, you know, the definition has changed,

00:54:36.820 or the definition has never changed.

00:54:38.440 Yeah, that's what I agree with you.

00:54:38.920 From the beginning, it was...

00:54:40.260 I mean, the more... 1.00

00:54:41.340 When I first saw the tweet, I was like, this guy's a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:54:44.920 And then when you explained it, I'm like, okay. 1.00

00:54:46.180 I still don't think it makes sense, because you're negating both sides on a subjective stance.

00:54:51.020 So, like, you even conceded, words are subjective.

00:54:54.180 So, both of these groups are using this word to mean one thing,

00:54:57.320 and the other groups use this word to mean another.

00:54:58.280 The point of that tweet...

00:54:59.120 So, it makes more sense to say you're both right than to say you're both wrong. 0.78

00:55:02.120 The point of that tweet was to challenge people that I think they're both fucking wrong,

00:55:05.220 because people are stuck on using definitions that their opposition disagrees with.

00:55:08.960 You cannot debate somebody if you can't agree on the definitions of terms,

00:55:13.000 because you're both going to be making arguments that feel like they're in conflict

00:55:16.500 and or support of each other, but without agreeing on the definition of terms,

00:55:20.300 you never come to an understanding of what the other person is saying.

00:55:23.480 And what I was trying to challenge with that tweet is libertarians branding themselves as

00:55:27.140 capitalists, because you're debating leftists.

00:55:29.540 You're debating people who have a fundamentally different approach and understanding of what

00:55:35.060 capitalism is. 0.97

00:55:36.320 And, to the fucking super chat there, it's not ceding the word. 0.98

00:55:39.260 You're not ceding the word capitalism. 0.98

00:55:41.000 You're acknowledging the historical definition of capitalism. 0.97

00:55:43.440 So, fucking take grasp of the words that we have that accurately describe what we're going 0.98

00:55:48.100 to do. 0.99

00:55:48.520 Free market enterprise.

00:55:50.200 Well, isn't this the same argument they've made for anarchy, too?

00:55:53.940 Like, basically, anarchism is, you know, started with leftists, so basically saying you're

00:55:58.500 anarcho-capitalist is just, like, you're just destroying the original use of the word.

00:56:05.460 What about the word libertarian?

00:56:07.500 Well, I just wanted to say, Justin, you are right, because I had Misty Winston on my show

00:56:12.120 a couple months ago.

00:56:12.980 She's a leftist.

00:56:14.360 And she had a pillow that said capitalism is a death cult on it behind her.

00:56:19.340 And then we ended up talking about what you're talking about.

00:56:22.480 And I said, OK, just forget the word capitalism.

00:56:24.500 What do you think about free exchange between people, voluntary transactions?

00:56:29.580 And she was like, yeah, I don't care, whatever.

00:56:31.700 When you talk to people where they are and you use phrases and terms that they can understand,

00:56:36.680 you have a better chance of communicating them.

00:56:39.160 You have a better chance of delivering your message to them and getting them to come around

00:56:42.600 and agree with you.

00:56:43.600 But, like, sticking to your guns and saying, we're going to reclaim the word capitalism, 1.00

00:56:47.700 you're running up against a fucking wall. 1.00

00:56:50.120 I agree. 1.00

00:56:50.700 That's true.

00:56:51.140 I'm just saying negating both sides of the subjective semantics argument is kind of silly,

00:56:56.720 where it would make more sense to say you're both right.

00:56:58.860 Like, if you say, hey, is this what you're describing?

00:57:00.560 Yep.

00:57:01.020 And I also completely agree you should define terms whenever you're talking.

00:57:04.060 Or tailor your terms to who you're talking to.

00:57:08.460 Yeah.

00:57:08.600 But then it gets a little bit muddier, I think, because, like, yes, I agree that they don't

00:57:13.300 have the same definition of capitalism that we do.

00:57:16.580 But one thing that I think is the actual disagreement on, like, what the system would look like or what

00:57:20.700 it should be is that the people on the left generally reject hierarchy and anarcho-capitalists

00:57:27.800 do not.

00:57:28.940 Like, we understand that there are going to be certain hierarchies.

00:57:31.880 And I don't think it would look like this huge corporate structure that we have right now,

00:57:35.100 which I think is a result of the existence of the state.

00:57:37.820 But you would have, like, division of labor.

00:57:40.760 People are going to do jobs that fit their skills.

00:57:43.880 You will have people that are-

00:57:44.700 Voluntarily.

00:57:45.120 And other people.

00:57:45.940 Yes.

00:57:46.100 And the whole point is that it's voluntarily, that no exchange can happen that doesn't benefit

00:57:50.560 both parties. 0.87

00:57:51.800 Yeah, stop debating leftist white women. 1.00

00:57:54.560 Reid and Justin, that's both of you.

00:57:56.360 You've talked to Mary Ann. 0.99

00:57:57.580 White women must be stopped. 1.00

00:57:59.400 Debate white women must be stopped. 1.00

00:58:00.940 You want something to say, drywall?

00:58:01.440 Because all these people throw in big money, and then they're just-

00:58:04.140 That's crazy.

00:58:04.820 I mean, thank you. 1.00

00:58:05.420 What the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:58:07.780 Drywall, oh. 0.99

00:58:09.620 By the way, also, I didn't want to mention that, so, um-

00:58:13.740 Most leftists or socialists also agree that markets do exist within socialism, so it's

00:58:19.800 like, if you do come at them and be like, oh, you don't believe in markets, they're

00:58:23.060 like, yes, we 100% do believe in markets.

00:58:24.980 They don't believe, like, it's a really weird thing, so I think that also goes to capitalism,

00:58:29.680 too, like, what you're saying.

00:58:30.780 Right, and the problem is, like, when you're debating and engaging with, like, a dyed-in-the-wool 0.97

00:58:34.880 fucking academic socialist, when you talk about capitalism to them, the word they hear 0.98

00:58:41.080 is coercion. 0.99

00:58:41.800 So you take capitalism out of it, you take coercion and force out of it, you agree on

00:58:48.160 the fact that voluntary mutual exchange works.

00:58:51.320 I don't know how-

00:58:51.760 It is very weird when you're talking about, like, taxes with them, and you're talking

00:58:54.820 about coercion, and they were like, well, basically, if working and not being able to

00:59:00.340 eat unless you work, it's coercion also to them.

00:59:02.740 So, like, they'll just be like, okay, well, then now we're at a moot point, because I

00:59:05.660 think that's coercion, you think that's coercion, so now we're just kind of stuck here.

00:59:09.160 You find the line of debarkation. 0.97

00:59:12.300 You find where the fucking line is, and we can agree, and we can work together up to 0.98

00:59:17.700 that point. 1.00

00:59:18.740 But, like, no, I'm not going to fucking feed you for nothing, you fucking freeloader. 1.00

00:59:22.060 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

00:59:23.220 Yeah, I definitely will say, don't get caught up on mouse sounds, because that's all that

00:59:26.220 words are.

00:59:26.760 So, like, if a mouse sound is somehow getting in the way of you convincing someone or whatever

00:59:33.120 your goal is, then abandon that mouse sound and fight a different mouse sound, because

00:59:37.240 a lot of people get caught up on words.

00:59:39.100 I know a certain someone made it in the name of his show, so he might be a little more caught

00:59:42.420 up than others.

00:59:45.760 We're not the capitalist power hour.

00:59:47.820 If you're talking to someone that that is a word that's amenable to them, then yes, use

00:59:51.480 it. 0.99

00:59:51.800 If it's someone that you know is going to instantly turn them off, use a different fucking word. 0.98

00:59:55.420 By the way, I'm going to have Abby Martin on the naturalist capitalist. 0.98

01:00:00.000 There's something beautiful about that.

01:00:01.800 Naturalist socialist for a day.

01:00:04.580 You should make a new banner just for the episode.

01:00:06.760 Yeah, just for the episode.

01:00:08.120 But I don't know how many of you guys saw that debate I did with that guy, like, a couple

01:00:12.180 months ago about capitalism versus socialism.

01:00:14.780 Did he wipe the floor with you?

01:00:16.400 Yeah.

01:00:17.780 I didn't see it.

01:00:19.560 I mean, it was just, it was horrible.

01:00:21.420 And I accepted his definition of socialism.

01:00:25.380 I was like, okay, I know we're, but he, I, we defined terms in the beginning and he could

01:00:30.620 not get past my description of capitalism.

01:00:33.060 Like every rebuttal he made was about corporatism and imperialism.

01:00:37.540 And I was like, those are huge violations of property rights.

01:00:40.460 Like blowing up people's houses overseas is an enormous violation.

01:00:44.340 I couldn't get by it.

01:00:46.600 Dude, I pulled my hair out on that episode because not only did he do that, but also

01:00:51.080 he kept referencing, because apparently he's in the military.

01:00:53.740 I've been in, I was in for 11 years.

01:00:55.840 He kept referencing the military as some sort of a.

01:00:59.620 Great system, great economic system we should be following.

01:01:02.420 Yeah, I mean, he conceded like, oh, I don't like the war side of it.

01:01:05.000 But, you know, for a template for socialism, like, look at this, look at that.

01:01:08.640 And I'm like, he being in 11 years, like this clearly has been in, like, $40,000 on paper

01:01:13.600 cups.

01:01:14.260 Like, literally, like it literally happened.

01:01:15.860 The army, the army is a modern day company town.

01:01:19.340 You could tell by the way he was talking, he'd probably been in like two years. 0.99

01:01:22.640 And me being in 11 years, I'm like, dude, you haven't seen the shit. 0.99

01:01:25.400 Wait till you get higher up. 1.00

01:01:26.620 And you're like, no, this is fucking horse shit. 1.00

01:01:28.780 You're just like, I got to do my job and I get paid. 1.00

01:01:31.140 And this is awesome.

01:01:31.860 That's where you're at right now.

01:01:33.340 So wait a minute.

01:01:34.040 Was the definition that you guys agreed on?

01:01:35.820 Was it like the standard, I guess, dictionary definition, which is the one that I use, which

01:01:39.520 is capitalism being private ownership or the means of production and socialism being public

01:01:43.780 ownership?

01:01:45.080 Or was that not?

01:01:45.700 He was arguing for, he was not an anarchist.

01:01:48.040 So he was arguing for like state sponsored socialism.

01:01:51.020 I was arguing for anarcho capitalism or at the very least, like very, very minimal state

01:01:57.940 involvement, you know, with just courts or whatever.

01:02:00.580 And the idea of like free enterprise, private property ownership and property rights, respect,

01:02:08.200 you know, respect.

01:02:09.100 And I don't know, it just every single question I had to redefine what I was saying, because

01:02:13.880 he would just keep going back.

01:02:15.940 Imperialism is, you know, a, an offshoot of capitalism.

01:02:18.920 And I was like, no, I've already explained. 0.98

01:02:20.820 It was, I mean, you'll have to, I'll send it to you, but it's, it sucks.

01:02:24.180 It sucks because debates do basically come down to just arguing definitions for like 45 minutes 0.86

01:02:29.300 to an hour. 0.85

01:02:29.960 And at the end, you've done nothing.

01:02:31.540 It's like, unless you do get to somebody that you're like, okay, we agree on definitions

01:02:35.600 now, now we can talk, which is basically, we have a lot more easy time to debate and

01:02:42.380 talk to right-wing people because they mostly actually do kind of agree with the premises

01:02:47.840 we're taking.

01:02:48.740 And then they're, they're just like, take it off to a totally different way than we do. 0.99

01:02:52.660 And then they're being the hypocrites. 0.99

01:02:54.920 So that's the crazy part. 0.97

01:02:56.280 I feel like when we approach the right versus left debate, it's like, when we talk to the

01:03:00.340 left, we agree on the problems and disagree on the solutions.

01:03:03.560 When we talk to the right, we agree on the solutions, but disagree on what they're solving.

01:03:08.560 Yeah.

01:03:09.000 Oh, that's okay.

01:03:09.920 Yeah.

01:03:10.280 You're right.

01:03:10.880 I never thought of it that way.

01:03:12.420 Cause they like, because like whenever she was on, she was really easy to see, like,

01:03:17.220 here's the problems.

01:03:17.960 And they're just like, okay, we're, we have all these wars.

01:03:20.260 And I was like, I was, I was, I was ripping on this today too.

01:03:26.280 I was like, I was, I looked it up.

01:03:27.700 I wanted to see how much we spent on Afghanistan.

01:03:29.540 And then to me, like when I saw it was $2 trillion, that number doesn't really compute

01:03:33.700 to you.

01:03:34.220 Like how big that is until you realize it's $300 million a day for 20 years.

01:03:40.320 It's way bigger than that.

01:03:41.480 It's $2 trillion.

01:03:42.120 But the entirety of that $2 trillion was debt financed on loose bonds because they borrowed

01:03:47.980 from the social security fund to pay for Iraq.

01:03:49.960 And that was depleted.

01:03:51.100 So it's going to take over 50 years to pay that back.

01:03:54.500 And the 50 years worth of interest on that $2 trillion is over 12 trillion.

01:03:59.400 Yeah.

01:03:59.940 So I'm just taking the, the, the, you know, front end number, $2 trillion.

01:04:03.760 That's how much it costs, whatever.

01:04:05.280 That's $300 million a day.

01:04:07.580 We could, I put this in the words of like, we could literally buy everybody in the

01:04:11.920 U.S. a hamburger every day for 20 years.

01:04:15.300 I was a tow missile operator.

01:04:16.340 And we've been in a better place than we are right now.

01:04:18.480 I was a tow missile operator.

01:04:20.140 It cost the taxpayers $86,000 every time I pulled the trigger.

01:04:24.320 Jesus Christ.

01:04:26.440 That's what, it's that meme of like the government uses a like $3 million drone to fire a $80,000

01:04:33.720 missile to blow up a $5 tent.

01:04:36.580 Do you know, do you know what one of the biggest setbacks the U.S. military had in Afghanistan 0.98

01:04:41.000 was like after the rollout of thermal imaging and the fucking surveillance drones and in 0.99

01:04:46.940 the first big surge, all of a sudden there was a fucking pitfall. 1.00

01:04:49.720 We couldn't track the Taliban because they bought 50 cent space blankets on the fucking 1.00

01:04:53.900 internet. 0.99

01:04:54.380 And the 50 cent space blankets hid their thermal signature from our billion dollar drones.

01:05:02.140 The old ways are still the best ways.

01:05:04.700 All right.

01:05:04.940 Hey, Toad, have you got the pee pee poo poo rolled ready to go or what's that?

01:05:08.960 Uh, we can do that.

01:05:10.120 I was just going to ask Justin really quickly because he just mentioned the Taliban.

01:05:13.160 He also happened to piss off all of the Taliban today. 0.78

01:05:16.220 He looks like he's part of the Taliban. 0.99

01:05:17.800 Yeah, he looks like he's part of the Taliban. 0.98

01:05:18.540 True. 0.92

01:05:20.360 Which by the way, I do want to bring back up again that they did piss off all the boob boys. 1.00

01:05:23.900 So I don't know if you, that was what.

01:05:25.400 Dude, that was amazing.

01:05:26.020 Did that make you?

01:05:26.940 That was so good.

01:05:28.340 We deleted that tweet, but it was hilarious.

01:05:30.580 I was like, oh my God.

01:05:31.520 I liked that tweet.

01:05:32.600 I thought it was funny.

01:05:33.380 Yeah.

01:05:33.580 I did too.

01:05:33.980 I liked it too.

01:05:34.520 The one Malang talking about killing the dogs? 1.00

01:05:37.460 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:05:38.580 The one where he said, I mean, he'll make me. 1.00

01:05:40.180 That's all the shit, yeah. 0.99

01:05:41.460 No, Malang. 1.00

01:05:42.060 He posted one meme.

01:05:43.040 Oh, sorry.

01:05:43.440 I'll tell you what the one that said he pissed off the boob boys was.

01:05:46.840 He posted one meme and it was like all these, it had like the U.S. like flag and then the

01:05:53.200 California flag and they were like, no, you can't have those guns.

01:05:56.440 And he was just like the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:05:59.340 And then like, and so all the boob boys and all the libertarians were like, oh, hell yeah.

01:06:04.820 Taliban's awesome.

01:06:05.980 And then they had like the boob boy soy jack meme. 0.97

01:06:09.580 And it was just like, we want gay people to protect their marijuana flags, marijuana plants 1.00

01:06:15.420 with guns. 0.99

01:06:16.280 And he was like, I'll literally stone you. 1.00

01:06:20.300 God damn it. 1.00

01:06:21.280 Tyler Jenk, follow him on Twitter, go to fucking libertarian podcast review and fucking subscribe 1.00

01:06:26.920 to his channel. 0.99

01:06:27.540 Yeah.

01:06:28.080 Hell yeah.

01:06:28.380 I made a, I made Malang delete a tweet because he took a picture of the dogs at the airport 0.99

01:06:32.780 and he tweeted, it was like, should we kill all these American dogs? 1.00

01:06:35.860 And I'm like, don't make me hate you, but like, I will fucking find you and murder you. 1.00

01:06:40.700 You will treat those dogs, dogs with love and respect. 1.00

01:06:43.220 And that thousands of people just like retweeting that and liking that.

01:06:46.700 And he deleted it and apologized.

01:06:48.400 But then he put up a picture of them taking down the pride flags.

01:06:52.500 And I responded with, I made a pride.

01:06:56.340 I took a pride flag and superimposed to Shahada over it.

01:07:01.660 I think I liked this tweet too.

01:07:03.520 So maybe the Taliban hate me now too.

01:07:05.180 And I'm like, it's the most inclusive replacement flag yet. 1.00

01:07:09.000 And we're like, you fucking rotten hell. 1.00

01:07:11.400 We will stone you to death. 1.00

01:07:12.480 Fuck you. 1.00

01:07:13.740 Everyone on here, go fucking hit up Malang, where the fuck his name is. 1.00

01:07:18.860 Go on Tower Gang Pod, at Tower Gang Pod. 0.99

01:07:21.340 We want him on our September 11th fucking edition. 0.98

01:07:24.220 That would be amazing. 0.99

01:07:25.480 If we get him and Ryan Dawson on together, it'd be fucking internet magic. 0.94

01:07:28.920 It's the other one. 0.94

01:07:30.020 Malang Costa, I think is his name.

01:07:31.940 Yeah.

01:07:32.920 Oh, man. 0.65

01:07:33.680 What's funny is like, he talks about killing dogs. 1.00

01:07:35.360 Like, they haven't been killing American dogs for fucking years. 0.99

01:07:38.080 I mean, how many servicemen have we lost out there? 0.99

01:07:40.900 I mean, ooh.

01:07:42.020 Well, yeah. 0.99

01:07:42.760 They probably fucked the dogs first, I would imagine. 1.00

01:07:48.120 Or maybe that's just the Afghan military. 1.00

01:07:50.520 The guys who are prone to boy fucking. 1.00

01:07:52.460 Maybe they're the ones who fucked the dogs. 1.00

01:07:53.960 I don't know. 1.00

01:07:54.680 Hole's a hole.

01:07:57.240 Hole's a hole.

01:07:59.140 All right.

01:07:59.620 We doing this pee-pee poo-poo?

01:08:00.680 What's going on?

01:08:01.460 Yeah.

01:08:01.740 I'm going to do this.

01:08:03.220 So, we were discussing this in our group chat while Toad pulls up all this stuff.

01:08:07.360 So, we were discussing.

01:08:08.420 I can't remember how it got brought up.

01:08:10.520 But somebody posted the LP members, like, on the LP.org or whatever it is.

01:08:17.780 All of their officials.

01:08:20.800 And just has those pictures.

01:08:21.880 The one that. 0.99

01:08:22.480 Who was it that made the joke about all of them looking like kid fuckers? 0.99

01:08:25.940 Thank God I'm not on that page anymore. 0.98

01:08:29.740 We still have a picture of you in this. 0.99

01:08:33.680 Elizabeth, I will literally come in the other room and beat your ass right now, okay? 1.00

01:08:39.380 Which guy we're talking? 1.00

01:08:40.700 I don't know which guy we're talking about.

01:08:42.340 No.

01:08:42.780 Who was the guy that made the joke about all the people on the LP.org page?

01:08:49.040 All the officials. 1.00

01:08:50.520 Looked like all kid fuckers. 1.00

01:08:51.740 And then Josh Smith was like, what the fuck, man? 1.00

01:08:54.400 Because he's on there. 0.99

01:08:56.220 I can't remember who made that joke, but it was really funny.

01:08:58.440 So, I think we were talking about that.

01:09:00.020 So, we were starting scrolling through.

01:09:01.200 And so, I think Toad brought up, or Top Lobster made some art for us, if Toad wants to bring

01:09:08.280 it up for actually once.

01:09:10.180 I will.

01:09:10.860 He did.

01:09:11.320 Go ahead, Toad.

01:09:12.440 Toad, you can do it right now.

01:09:13.540 Earn your keep.

01:09:14.780 Toad, do it right now. 0.89

01:09:16.700 I'm doing it, man.

01:09:17.980 Toad, drop the picture, Toad.

01:09:19.940 Toad, there it is. 0.98

01:09:21.040 Fucker Duck. 1.00

01:09:22.020 It's fucker duck, man. 1.00

01:09:23.160 So, I think for this first installment of Fucker Duck, we're going to go over the LP administration 1.00

01:09:31.380 team, basically.

01:09:32.780 So, it's on LP.org.

01:09:34.020 It's a little bit of a mix, actually, but yeah.

01:09:36.720 Okay.

01:09:37.220 Okay.

01:09:37.480 It's a little bit of a mix.

01:09:38.140 Because I did make the joke today about...

01:09:40.760 No, this is a quick question.

01:09:42.020 Is that picture supposed to be moving?

01:09:43.960 For you, yes. 0.99

01:09:48.300 Fuck, it is not a gif. 0.97

01:09:50.540 By the way, he could totally add some sort of Duck Hunter element to this, like with the 0.99

01:09:54.940 dog, you know what I mean?

01:09:56.180 Like the old school Duck Hunter game.

01:09:57.920 I feel the vibes with this.

01:09:59.660 I thought you were talking about because Justin looks like he's on Duck Dynasty. 0.99

01:10:02.960 Yeah, I'm talking about this fucking... 0.98

01:10:04.280 Molly, I remember, so Top Lost a post that it was Pete Quinones was the one that made that 1.00

01:10:08.320 joke about all of the LP admin people look like child fuckers. 0.91

01:10:13.960 Yeah, and I went through it today because you guys had been like, oh, there's like a spectrum 1.00

01:10:17.460 from, I don't know who the ugliest motherfucker is in it, all the way up to Josh Smith. 0.98

01:10:21.180 And I'm like, Josh Smith can't be like the sexiest one out of all of them, right? 1.00

01:10:24.960 And then I looked at the page and I was like, Jesus, like I would fuck Josh Smith over 0.99

01:10:28.500 most of the women that are on this page. 0.99

01:10:30.660 This is why I posted like, if you feel ugly or fat or something like that, and you just

01:10:35.080 really feel down on yourself, just go to an LP event.

01:10:37.400 You'll be better than 90% of the people there.

01:10:39.600 I want to tell you guys a story of an LP event where I saw a woman on the LNC do the most

01:10:48.460 demeaning thing I've ever seen to another woman. 0.82

01:10:51.200 We were at a fundraiser in DC and Arvin Vora walks in with his girlfriend at the time and 1.00

01:10:57.120 she was just a dying beast, like gorgeous girl in a fucking fancy fucking dress. 1.00

01:11:00.940 And he walks in and Aaron Adams is shit-faced and she stumbles over to him. 1.00

01:11:06.620 Arvin, she's gorgeous. 0.99

01:11:08.300 How much did she cost?

01:11:10.100 Did you get her marriage permission?

01:11:13.300 At the entire place.

01:11:14.960 We had the ambassador from Liberland there and started dying laughing.

01:11:22.380 Does Liberland still exist?

01:11:23.840 No, I got to run at 10.30 Eastern time, so that's like- 0.99

01:11:27.920 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:11:28.760 Three minutes. 1.00

01:11:29.340 Oh, okay.

01:11:30.600 Let's at least do one with Reed before we go.

01:11:32.740 Yeah.

01:11:33.260 Hit it up.

01:11:33.560 All right.

01:11:33.800 So the concept here is pretty simple. 1.00

01:11:35.780 I think it's, would you fuck them or would you duck them like they're a plane coming to 1.00

01:11:39.780 hit you like you're one of the Twin Towers? 1.00

01:11:43.140 How many people are we doing?

01:11:44.360 Because it could take a while. 0.99

01:11:45.280 Because I can't just say fuck or duck and not give an explanation. 0.99

01:11:47.460 It's not funny. 1.00

01:11:48.060 Right.

01:11:49.260 We'll do one with Reed and then we can do it quick.

01:11:51.540 And then once Reed leaves, we can kind of-

01:11:53.880 I think I have about seven on here.

01:11:55.700 Yeah.

01:11:56.160 We can kind of go-

01:11:57.040 Seven?

01:11:57.240 All right.

01:11:57.520 Well, we got to keep our answers quick.

01:11:58.520 We cannot spend too much time on them.

01:12:00.300 Yeah.

01:12:00.360 We can't elaborate too much.

01:12:01.660 All right.

01:12:02.140 Number one.

01:12:03.500 I don't even remember what this guy's name is.

01:12:08.400 This is the guy that has said in the chat, it looks like he's-

01:12:11.980 It looks like this guy eats children. 0.75

01:12:14.320 Like- 0.99

01:12:14.720 He looks like a troll. 0.70

01:12:17.420 Well, he's probably about five feet in height, I would imagine, based on this. 0.51

01:12:20.580 I don't remember who he is.

01:12:21.720 So, this is just you in a different life.

01:12:23.680 Like, you need to stop where you're at right now.

01:12:25.880 This guy-

01:12:26.100 Yeah, I would say duck, but given that he's probably five feet tall, I don't know if it

01:12:30.220 would do any good.

01:12:30.920 Maybe jump instead of duck.

01:12:33.280 I do want to point out this guy has some swag.

01:12:35.200 He's wearing an Aeropostale shirt, so that's pretty awesome.

01:12:38.120 I'm a photographer.

01:12:39.140 I wouldn't deliver this headshot to a client.

01:12:43.300 Like-

01:12:44.140 So, duck for you.

01:12:46.220 Okay.

01:12:46.380 It's hard.

01:12:47.680 Justin goes to an LP event, he finds this guy.

01:12:50.680 All right.

01:12:50.920 This guy-

01:12:51.920 All right.

01:12:52.760 Like, I gotta- 0.99

01:12:53.440 In this hypothetical, I gotta assume I'm down for the fucking brown, for dudes, you know? 1.00

01:12:58.720 So, fucking him. 1.00

01:13:01.100 I mean, he looks like a good prison lay. 1.00

01:13:02.620 I'm not gonna lie. 0.57

01:13:03.380 He's slightly effeminate, you know?

01:13:05.340 So, I can get with it.

01:13:07.600 He looks like he'd be a tender cuddler, you know, just help out with the loneliness, you

01:13:13.260 know?

01:13:13.880 I-

01:13:14.400 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:14.920 Should the movie- 1.00

01:13:15.720 What do you go fuck? 1.00

01:13:17.480 Should the movie do you have to fuck a certain number of these, not knowing who's coming next? 1.00

01:13:21.220 By the way, the red ass hair would cover up all the anal blood, so, you know? 1.00

01:13:26.160 Oh, Jesus! 0.99

01:13:28.640 All right.

01:13:29.540 I'm going to get out of here, Reed.

01:13:33.000 Real quick. 0.99

01:13:34.520 Naturalist Capitalist on YouTube, Spotify, Anchor, you know, all that shit. 0.99

01:13:39.360 and then at read Coverdale on Twitter 0.91

01:13:41.120 or just go to Marianne Williams' page

01:13:43.660 and you'll see me in her mentions.

01:13:45.020 That's how you can find me.

01:13:45.760 Thanks, guys.

01:13:47.300 Thanks, man. 1.00

01:13:48.600 These kind of guys, that's who, motherfucker. 0.99

01:13:52.080 We can admit that certain men are sexy or not. 1.00

01:13:55.800 This guy's not.

01:13:56.520 But what Cole was just saying,

01:13:57.880 this guy, if he's me in another life, 0.98

01:14:00.100 he probably doesn't have ass hair 0.99

01:14:01.300 because he manscapes. 0.99

01:14:02.640 He does look like an alternate universe version of you.

01:14:05.560 If Toad was an O'Donnell 1.00

01:14:10.800 instead of a fucking Italian. 1.00

01:14:13.360 That means Jose would fuck me. 1.00

01:14:16.520 All right, next up. 1.00

01:14:18.420 Oh, Jesus.

01:14:20.420 You couldn't put up his husband? 0.97

01:14:21.620 His husband's at least like... 0.99

01:14:23.560 By the way, this might make him the most fuckable 0.99

01:14:27.000 because he would definitely be down. 0.99

01:14:28.920 He would just be so easy. 0.96

01:14:30.760 I bet he cleans his butthole real nice. 0.99

01:14:32.660 I bet it's nice and shaved. 0.99

01:14:34.480 I mean, a hole as a hole, like Jose always says, 1.00

01:14:37.200 but are you down with fucking a rat? 1.00

01:14:39.360 I feel like we're going to hear from Heiss on this one. 1.00

01:14:44.500 You also know he would destroy the evidence.

01:14:47.760 Oh, that's true.

01:14:48.420 You don't have to worry about it getting out.

01:14:49.920 Yeah, you don't have to worry about it getting out.

01:14:51.140 You wouldn't tell anyone.

01:14:52.160 The evidence would be Santorum everywhere.

01:14:57.200 I'm so on the fence in this one.

01:14:58.800 I know he would clearly be like...

01:15:01.600 He's clearly experienced.

01:15:03.100 I don't know, man.

01:15:04.040 He's just...

01:15:04.900 This picture, too, is what's said over the head. 1.00

01:15:06.480 I'm done with fuck. 1.00

01:15:07.120 It looks like his head's about to pause. 1.00

01:15:08.200 It's a matter of dominance.

01:15:09.760 Yeah.

01:15:10.220 Yeah, I was going to say that.

01:15:12.500 It's a matter of asserting dominance and letting him...

01:15:16.040 I mean, how much do you want him to suffer?

01:15:19.800 Oh, jeez. 1.00

01:15:21.080 How much can one man suffer when his asshole literally whistles when he farts? 1.00

01:15:25.420 I mean... 1.00

01:15:26.040 I was just going to say he's experienced in dick suckers. 0.99

01:15:29.620 You can probably just turn the lights off and maybe, uh... 1.00

01:15:32.760 He just strikes me as the type of, like, boyfriend or girlfriend or whoever that talks shit about you behind your back, you know? 0.98

01:15:38.160 So, I don't know. 0.99

01:15:38.960 I'm going to have to go with duck on this one.

01:15:40.200 I was very on the fence.

01:15:41.720 He clearly has a repertoire. 1.00

01:15:42.800 You fuck the first guy and then you're going to duck the gay man? 1.00

01:15:47.020 Like, what the fuck's going on? 1.00

01:15:48.220 He just looks like a slimy fuck. 1.00

01:15:50.200 Like, do you really want to be in a relationship with someone who's going to talk trash about you to, like... 1.00

01:15:54.120 This is not a relationship.

01:15:55.500 This is a...

01:15:56.200 This is a one-night stand.

01:15:58.060 Honestly, this might be a prison lay.

01:16:01.520 It might be a prison lay.

01:16:03.640 It's the fact that you know he'll lie about it and he'll cover up the evidence and he'll claim attorney-client privilege so it doesn't leak out.

01:16:10.120 All of that is a good point. 1.00

01:16:11.680 I'm saying fuck just because, like I said, he can do it in the dark and he's probably experienced with dick-sucking. 1.00

01:16:17.180 And I would have said fuck on the first one because I do masturbate, so... 1.00

01:16:21.640 I was a mechanic, by the way, MD. 1.00

01:16:23.440 I mean, not that I was, like, out there shooting the Taliban, but I definitely wasn't fucking clicking on fucking PowerPoints. 0.99

01:16:30.060 Everyone clicked on PowerPoints. 0.98

01:16:31.680 Yeah, I mean, I did that, too.

01:16:32.700 Yeah, I mean...

01:16:33.280 All right, next up.

01:16:34.980 Oh, a heartbeat.

01:16:35.740 In a heartbeat.

01:16:37.620 Honestly, this is the best-looking guy yet.

01:16:39.400 Yeah, easily the best-looking guy yet.

01:16:43.160 Well, yeah.

01:16:44.000 The problem is, he looks like he would be a top. 0.99

01:16:47.320 So, I feel like I would not be fucking him. 0.99

01:16:50.300 Find an old picture of him. 0.99

01:16:51.140 He lost 100 pounds in 2020.

01:16:53.180 Oh, really?

01:16:54.960 Well, let me see.

01:16:55.640 I don't know how we're going to find an old... 0.91

01:16:56.940 I mean...

01:16:57.500 Well, I'm also sharing my screen right now, but I can do really well.

01:17:00.820 What's his name again?

01:17:01.680 Something like Molman.

01:17:02.880 Ken Molman.

01:17:03.660 Ken Molman.

01:17:04.720 He's the guy that, like...

01:17:06.300 He's basically the chair right now, isn't he?

01:17:08.220 He's the vice chair.

01:17:09.080 No, no, Whitney's the chair. 0.99

01:17:10.440 He's the one that they tried to make chair.

01:17:12.100 And he's like, oh, fine.

01:17:12.580 That's right.

01:17:13.640 Yeah.

01:17:13.940 He's the one that whenever they were doing that whole thing with Carrie Ann Harlows and

01:17:19.300 all of them came on, he was the emcee of all that.

01:17:23.160 If I put myself in the mind of a bottom, I could totally go for him.

01:17:27.480 He's a good-looking dude.

01:17:29.080 He looks like a cool guy to hang out with.

01:17:31.040 Nice.

01:17:31.700 Kind of jockish, but not to a dickish degree.

01:17:34.780 I could get behind it.

01:17:36.060 I feel like he smells good.

01:17:37.380 I feel like he wears good cologne.

01:17:39.720 That's what he looks like.

01:17:40.760 He dresses nice, though.

01:17:42.160 You guys are getting top vibes from him, but remember, he was given power and turned it

01:17:47.800 down.

01:17:49.000 I mean, that's kind of pretty top-ish to me.

01:17:50.900 That's libertarian top right there.

01:17:54.180 Yeah, that's libertarian top right there.

01:17:55.860 Well, and the fact that he lost all that weight kind of makes him the top, right?

01:17:59.120 Because he has that drive to do it.

01:18:00.680 So maybe he was a bottom before that and became a top.

01:18:03.660 Yeah, Ken Millman, I don't know you, but you put off sweet Chad energy.

01:18:08.480 Not like Alter Chad, but kind of like a sweetheart Chad. 0.99

01:18:10.920 That might have changed my – I might go fuck here again. 1.00

01:18:12.720 I might go fuck with it. 1.00

01:18:13.660 I'm going to go fuck here. 1.00

01:18:15.000 I'll go fuck as well. 1.00

01:18:16.220 If he showed up the before picture, I probably would be not fuck. 1.00

01:18:20.520 I just found it from the website, man.

01:18:23.320 I'll often look it up and see if I can find the old one.

01:18:25.920 I don't know who else I have.

01:18:29.840 No, I mean, here's the thing.

01:18:31.840 He's got seven kids.

01:18:32.880 You know where that's been.

01:18:33.720 You know what you're going to catch.

01:18:36.600 Clearly, he doesn't wrap it up. 1.00

01:18:37.900 That's a big old dick. 0.99

01:18:38.700 This is the LP at large edition, man. 1.00

01:18:42.460 Well, like how dirty is that big old dick? 1.00

01:18:44.260 I don't know. 1.00

01:18:45.040 Something about his mustache is throwing me off in this one.

01:18:47.160 It's a little bit creeping me out.

01:18:48.380 He's normally a good-looking dude, but I don't like the mustache here.

01:18:51.020 Yeah, by the way, this is not a good picture of Josh here.

01:18:54.540 Josh is a great-looking man.

01:18:56.240 It's just from the website, man.

01:18:57.800 This is the worst picture I've ever seen of Josh. 1.00

01:19:00.440 I got to say, I mean, I'm going to go fuck just because he's the ultimate big spoon. 1.00

01:19:04.640 Like if you're a little spoon guy, dude, he would cuddle so goddamn good. 1.00

01:19:08.080 Could you imagine him just – you're sharing a laugh afterwards. 1.00

01:19:12.960 Like you get done fucking. 0.99

01:19:14.160 He was like, that was pretty good, wasn't it? 1.00

01:19:15.980 Little ass-go kisses. 0.99

01:19:17.740 I mean, you guys haven't cuddled with Josh before? 0.99

01:19:20.320 Like I'm pretty sure there was a point in New Orleans after I passed out after doing a bunch of whippets out of condoms with Mark Clare. 0.99

01:19:28.160 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:19:29.480 I woke up on the couch with Josh next to me. 1.00

01:19:31.800 I was like, all right, cool.

01:19:32.840 Oh, my God. 0.99

01:19:34.880 Fucking Airbnb, you know? 1.00

01:19:39.020 No homo. 1.00

01:19:40.000 Josh is dreamy eyes.

01:19:41.800 Yeah, dude.

01:19:42.300 He does.

01:19:43.020 Even with this picture, he's still like the best-looking one, even better than Ken Mullen.

01:19:47.540 God, if those eyes were on a woman, they'd be screaming, I will ruin your financial future. 1.00

01:19:54.040 And honestly, I understand that vibe from Josh, too.

01:19:59.980 Wait, wait. 1.00

01:20:00.580 If we have to fuck him, does that mean I have to go to Iowa? 1.00

01:20:04.400 Because I don't know. 1.00

01:20:05.040 No, he moves to you.

01:20:06.580 Oh, he comes to me.

01:20:07.500 Okay, that's fine.

01:20:08.660 If I go to Iowa, this might be a duck.

01:20:11.740 As long as he takes his couch with and I get to experience that.

01:20:15.680 Oh, yeah.

01:20:16.040 We get some prepared. 1.00

01:20:17.200 Yeah, we fuck on the couch. 1.00

01:20:18.540 Like, we fuck on his couch. 1.00

01:20:20.860 We have break the cycle, a little light on the background. 0.99

01:20:23.120 We're going to live stream, yeah. 0.99

01:20:24.500 So, I'm going to go fuck here just because it's Josh. 0.99

01:20:30.760 And I feel like, honestly, he would be gentle. 0.99

01:20:32.920 I feel like he would be a gentle man.

01:20:34.800 Oh, yeah.

01:20:35.980 Yeah, I agree with that.

01:20:37.340 A gentle lover. 0.98

01:20:37.840 I just realized fucking Reed is about to go live as his next guest. 1.00

01:20:41.000 So, he's just like jumping from this retarded pee-pee-poo-poo shit to like some serious talk. 1.00

01:20:47.200 All right. 1.00

01:20:48.360 All right.

01:20:48.780 Who we got next?

01:20:49.440 He's missing out on the rest. 1.00

01:20:50.760 She's a little bit older, but something about her tells me she does dirty, dirty shit. 1.00

01:20:57.060 She would be a freak. 1.00

01:21:00.500 I mean, we're fucking dudes. 1.00

01:21:01.920 Obviously, this is a fuck. 1.00

01:21:04.300 I'm going to give a fuck. 1.00

01:21:05.360 I mean, I'm not a big into like older women thing. 1.00

01:21:08.280 I mean, I like cougars.

01:21:09.740 They know what they're doing.

01:21:10.520 I don't know.

01:21:11.040 She looks like she would be a sweetheart.

01:21:12.600 Hey, a plus here is she can remove the dentures and then basically you don't have to worry about 1.00

01:21:17.080 any teeth scratches there.

01:21:18.180 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:21:18.620 Oh, sorry.

01:21:19.200 She's not that old.

01:21:23.580 Yeah, I don't know.

01:21:24.300 I mean, I've seen her and met her in person.

01:21:26.580 And yeah, she looks pretty good, I would say. 1.00

01:21:31.780 So, yeah, it's a fuck from all of us. 0.99

01:21:34.220 Wait, is she up? 1.00

01:21:35.900 Totus joshed off 30 times, seven times in a day.

01:21:39.000 I feel like her libido will make you like kind of feel emasculated. 0.99

01:21:43.400 Like that's where she's at.

01:21:44.380 Even if you're like an early 20s dude, I just feel like she could keep up.

01:21:47.860 Here's the thing.

01:21:48.440 It's like she is a top.

01:21:51.260 I could see that.

01:21:52.340 I could see her face wrap on.

01:21:53.680 Well, honestly, I might have to go on a duck here because she's already been let down enough

01:22:00.520 in the past couple of weeks. 0.99

01:22:02.740 So if she fucks me, there might be one more letdown. 1.00

01:22:06.780 So we were talking about whether we want her to come on Tower Power Hour. 0.99

01:22:10.260 So how she reacts to this is going to be a clear indicator of whether she can hang. 0.81

01:22:13.360 Well, she definitely – she has some like – even her Porkfest speech, she had some 1.00

01:22:19.840 like wild shit in there talking about fucking and shit. 1.00

01:22:22.540 If we have her on, we're doing this bit again. 1.00

01:22:25.960 And her picture is going to come up again.

01:22:29.820 Fair warning, Karen. 0.93

01:22:31.960 Do your best to me.

01:22:32.900 If you're watching this, if you come on, this is what you're doing. 1.00

01:22:36.500 So be prepared to say whether you'd fuck these people you know in real life. 1.00

01:22:39.360 We will not – hey, we will not kick you off for – 0.99

01:22:42.880 And give detailed reasons.

01:22:43.220 That's the worst part is I know all these people in real life.

01:22:46.680 We will not kick you out for decency here.

01:22:48.900 Don't worry about it.

01:22:49.760 You can be as vulgar as you want, Carrie-Anne. 1.00

01:22:52.500 This is a beautiful way to spike the ball on the way out too.

01:22:55.100 Just letting you know. 0.99

01:22:55.820 I mean, if you're already on the way out, just fucking spike that pitch and walk out. 0.94

01:22:59.060 Well, that was the question I was going to ask if Justin knows – like what's the 0.98

01:23:02.240 latest on what's going on with – because they're trying to kick her out again. 0.99

01:23:05.500 They're making a fucking martyr of her. 1.00

01:23:07.140 Like literally, Laura Ebke is so fucking high and mighty on her fucking self that she thinks 1.00

01:23:12.940 she's accomplishing something by fucking putting out a fucking motion to suspend Karen-Anne. 1.00

01:23:17.720 No, all she's fucking doing is fucking telling every LPMC fucking member and every Mises caucus 1.00

01:23:24.700 fucking constituent that they were right the whole fucking time. 1.00

01:23:27.640 That the Prags only fucking care about power. 1.00

01:23:30.360 That the Prags will fucking stifle dissent. 1.00

01:23:32.240 And even after they fucking collapse their caucus and fucking rage quit the party, that they're 0.99

01:23:36.840 still going to try and fucking go after people with shots on the way out. 1.00

01:23:40.140 No. 1.00

01:23:40.700 Laura Ebke is a fucking pathetic loser. 1.00

01:23:43.160 Yes, she is. 1.00

01:23:43.880 Long live Karen-Anne. 0.99

01:23:44.520 That's actually a great idea for a bit, by the way.

01:23:46.760 Once we do – like ease her in with these and throw us in there. 0.77

01:23:51.360 I might have put Laura Ebke in this one. 1.00

01:23:55.060 I don't remember.

01:23:55.600 It has to be our – basically these pictures, though.

01:24:00.500 It can't be like our picture.

01:24:01.620 It has to be these ones.

01:24:02.720 It's the retard element. 1.00

01:24:04.800 You bang a pack of tars. 1.00

01:24:07.320 Well, and also we would say that we would duck Laura Ebke after we said we'd fuck a bunch 1.00

01:24:11.960 of dudes. 0.99

01:24:14.420 This is a play. 0.58

01:24:15.400 We're going to duck every woman on here. 1.00

01:24:17.380 That's the joke.

01:24:19.400 But we love Karen-Anne.

01:24:20.760 She's a badass. 1.00

01:24:21.360 And obviously, yeah, this needs to not happen.

01:24:25.580 I'm still ducking just because I don't want to let her down.

01:24:28.060 Yeah.

01:24:28.720 She needs to stay in the party. 1.00

01:24:30.240 And after that is all over, we can get her on our show.

01:24:32.380 You know you can't perform to her standards.

01:24:34.460 Next up. 1.00

01:24:35.840 What the fuck is that? 0.99

01:24:38.320 Justin O'Donnell. 1.00

01:24:39.360 So this is Justin O'Donnell. 1.00

01:24:42.660 We're asking you if you masturbate. 0.99

01:24:45.360 His name is Duff Goldman, and he is a famous pastry artist and cake baker. 1.00

01:24:51.360 Sounds like a fag. 0.99

01:24:53.860 So that's a yes. 1.00

01:24:55.100 It's a fuck. 1.00

01:24:55.800 Maybe. 1.00

01:24:57.540 But I cop.

01:24:58.840 The beard is not as luscious, by the way.

01:25:01.260 It's not a nice full beard.

01:25:03.360 It has way more gray in it than it should than Justin's does.

01:25:06.520 Justin is nice and black.

01:25:07.600 This is legit time-traveling Justin. 1.00

01:25:13.480 So we're all saying if you would fuck him right now, and he's saying if he beats off. 1.00

01:25:17.240 I mean, he's pretty handsome. 1.00

01:25:18.760 I'll give him that.

01:25:19.340 And also, by the way, you get little cake afterwards.

01:25:24.440 You get some of his cake, and then you get some of his cake. 1.00

01:25:28.900 Do you get to fuck both cakes? 1.00

01:25:32.460 I mean, I guess you can, Toad. 1.00

01:25:33.720 I don't know how you eat your cake.

01:25:35.240 Usually I put it in my mouth. 1.00

01:25:36.640 I don't put my dick in it. 1.00

01:25:39.400 At least not first. 0.99

01:25:40.500 We had to at least do one time to let Toad sit in it a little bit, all right?

01:25:45.980 Oh, sorry. 1.00

01:25:47.000 You can put your dick in the cake and then let him suck it off. 1.00

01:25:50.140 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:25:50.860 All right.

01:25:51.180 Come on.

01:25:51.640 All right.

01:25:51.940 No, no.

01:25:52.380 That's...

01:25:52.780 Not even that it's over the line.

01:25:56.260 It's just not funny anymore.

01:25:58.240 All right.

01:25:59.320 Next up.

01:25:59.980 I'm not going to lie.

01:26:04.540 With that photo, no.

01:26:05.600 That is an awful photo. 1.00

01:26:08.440 Just imagine him looking at your dick with that photo, though. 1.00

01:26:11.500 He's just looking at it and just like, that is not as big as I want it to be. 1.00

01:26:15.360 Hey, you never left the stream, man.

01:26:17.240 He's still here.

01:26:18.220 I feel like this is one of my uncles from my dad's high school yearbook. 0.96

01:26:22.180 So, yes, you will get sucked by him. 0.83

01:26:27.480 Reed's mustache is a glory in and of itself. 0.87

01:26:30.360 And this picture just is terrible.

01:26:33.040 I mean, that's what I'm saying.

01:26:34.200 Like, he's a handsome...

01:26:35.060 He's a handsome man. 0.96

01:26:36.100 He has raw masculine sexual energy. 1.00

01:26:38.240 But this is just like fucking uncle molester. 1.00

01:26:41.120 Yeah, I'll put this photo alone. 0.99

01:26:42.760 Like, if it was regularly... 0.97

01:26:43.760 If Reed was still in here, just how he looks just tonight, I'd be like, yes, we're fucking Reed. 0.97

01:26:48.560 This picture... 0.97

01:26:49.220 This is a duck on the Reed.

01:26:53.160 Sorry, Reed.

01:26:53.900 We're going to duck you for this one. 1.00

01:26:55.120 So, we're going to fuck Josh, but not Reed. 1.00

01:26:58.280 I'll still fuck them both. 1.00

01:27:01.580 Ride the mustache. 1.00

01:27:02.780 Because you're a simp.

01:27:04.240 I think that is the last one. 0.99

01:27:10.360 That was our first installment of Fucker Duck.

01:27:12.660 And I love how, basically, I think there's only one woman in there.

01:27:16.200 You told me to, like...

01:27:19.660 But this is the LP edition, man.

01:27:21.760 It actually...

01:27:22.220 That was pretty good, actually.

01:27:23.520 I thought this is that piece.

01:27:24.480 The men of Sexton are done really well.

01:27:27.400 I don't know.

01:27:28.140 I mean, this page is Sexton.

01:27:29.800 Yeah.

01:27:31.660 I would love just this...

01:27:33.800 We're just going to keep bringing out people.

01:27:35.420 And it's just going to be...

01:27:36.280 I mean, I can't wait until Michael Malice comes up.

01:27:39.940 Tom Woods.

01:27:40.860 Bob Murphy.

01:27:41.480 I mean, all these guys are going to come up. 1.00

01:27:43.000 We're going to talk if we're going to fuck or duck. 1.00

01:27:44.260 Malice is a total spinner. 1.00

01:27:45.440 All right. 0.99

01:27:49.360 Do we have to bring up Trotty Pussy in the dock again? 1.00

01:27:57.980 You should have said that I wanted to get him on for my Anarchist Handbook series. 0.78

01:28:01.400 It's like the last episode.

01:28:02.660 She's going to, like, show that back to me.

01:28:03.960 Can you imagine him just holding his legs over, like, behind his head?

01:28:07.540 He's like...

01:28:08.440 This is inside the 90% of anarchist relationships right here.

01:28:17.480 Well, he's so small, most people would spin him, right?

01:28:20.360 That's what a spinner is, bud. 1.00

01:28:22.400 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:28:22.980 I thought that would be the spin E. 1.00

01:28:26.800 I thought you were talking about because he's so jacked now for his being an underwear model

01:28:31.400 that he would be spinning women. 0.99

01:28:32.780 I don't fucking know what you're talking about. 1.00

01:28:35.400 I'm just thinking of Crouching Pussy in the dock. 1.00

01:28:37.240 The spinner is termed for usually a very petite woman or man or whatever that you spin around your dick. 1.00

01:28:42.860 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:43.180 Because you're so little.

01:28:45.560 It's so easy.

01:28:46.240 Woo, woo, woo, woo. 0.99

01:28:49.300 I'm aware of the concept, the maneuver.

01:28:52.160 I just don't know who's the spinner and who's the spin E.

01:28:54.760 All right.

01:28:54.980 We're at an hour and a half-ish, so I feel like this is probably a good place to kill it.

01:28:58.980 You guys, if you've got anything else pressing that you disagree with me on, speak now if I ever hold your peace.

01:29:05.240 If not, Justin, you want to drop your plugs?

01:29:08.060 Yeah.

01:29:08.460 So you can watch my show, O'Donnell for Liberty.

01:29:11.100 Real scattergun approach. 0.99

01:29:12.320 Like, I don't have fucking topics. 0.99

01:29:13.940 I get whoever the fuck is willing to come on to come on. 0.99

01:29:16.280 I had Gary Vaynerchuk on earlier tonight. 0.99

01:29:18.260 We talked about NFTs, and I got him to admit that 98% of NFTs are a waste of money to a bunch of people that he's selling NFTs to.

01:29:26.560 And you got him on by bullying him.

01:29:28.560 Yeah, and I got him on by bullying him.

01:29:30.160 I called him a low-rent hipster Tony Robbins wannabe, and he agreed to come on my podcast.

01:29:34.060 That's a pretty good insult.

01:29:36.320 It's so weird because I guess we have kind of like – sorry, I'm interrupting your plug here.

01:29:40.260 But because like both your podcast and our podcast, we get people on by basically bullying them and they're coming on even though –

01:29:47.880 The difference is like I have a blue checkmark, so they answer to my bullies faster.

01:29:51.380 Yes.

01:29:51.620 Well, yeah. 0.56

01:29:52.220 I got Justin on our show by telling him how to sexually dominate him, so that's why he's here right now.

01:29:59.520 No, but like – no, back to the shoe thing. 0.89

01:30:01.740 Oh, my God.

01:30:02.260 That's going to be so good.

01:30:03.100 Sorry.

01:30:03.420 Yes, by the way, Dickie Walnuts, I want to – first of all, I do want to say a public apology because I was supposed to upload –

01:30:09.500 I told him I was going to upload every one of his videos, every one of the short videos he makes.

01:30:13.000 I can do it too because I – yeah, if you want me to do it.

01:30:15.240 We're going to start uploading to the channel because he makes fire content for us for basically free and off his phone.

01:30:21.760 So shout out, Dickie.

01:30:22.500 You do a great job, man.

01:30:24.260 Yeah.

01:30:24.560 You guys – so follow my YouTube, O'Donnell4Liberty.

01:30:28.460 You follow me on Twitter at O'Donnell4NH.

01:30:30.340 Which – that handle is left over from when I ran from office.

01:30:32.920 I'm never going to change it because that has a blue check mark.

01:30:35.780 You guys don't understand the privileges.

01:30:38.340 Twitter has different features for blue checks.

01:30:40.340 Like I have a whole different inbox and a notification page that are completely different.

01:30:44.420 I love that you're –

01:30:46.120 I am better.

01:30:49.200 You're letting verify, but Dave Smith isn't.

01:30:51.600 Like it's going to be so funny being that Dave Smith has almost –

01:30:56.320 Dave has sold the devil yet.

01:30:58.260 Yeah, there's 150,000 followers and Justin has 8,000 or something.

01:31:03.180 Yeah, I have 7,000 followers.

01:31:04.960 I got verified because I wrote a book. 0.98

01:31:06.820 Apparently, it's that fucking easy. 0.98

01:31:09.700 Just write a book. 0.98

01:31:10.800 I thought it was because you were running for Senate.

01:31:13.100 No, I had the verification before that.

01:31:15.900 So, no, I wrote my book because I'd swallowed a 10-strip of – 0.93

01:31:19.180 I'd always said I was going to write a book,

01:31:22.340 and then I swallowed a 10-strip of acid one weekend.

01:31:24.620 And what I was saying was like, you should work on that book you said you were going to write. 1.00

01:31:28.000 I'm like, fine, fuck you. 1.00

01:31:28.800 I'll work on that book I'm going to write. 1.00

01:31:30.260 And then like three days later, I'm like, ha-ha, I wrote a book.

01:31:32.540 She's like, no, you didn't.

01:31:33.500 I'm like, it's on Amazon already.

01:31:37.980 Somebody needs to tell Sam Marcus to actually get verified because he wrote his book.

01:31:42.160 He has it published.

01:31:43.060 But he keeps getting kicked off of Twitter, so someone needs to tell him just to get verified because he wrote a book.

01:31:48.780 I'm working on another book right now.

01:31:50.360 I'm taking the Michael Malice approach of not writing anything original

01:31:52.980 and just collating other people's work into a book I can make profit off of.

01:31:59.380 It's called The Anarchist Hand Job.

01:32:02.540 Yeah.

01:32:03.020 And I'm collecting all of Stefan Kinsella's essays on intellectual property and I'm collating them into a book called The Case for Intellectual Property by Stefan Kinsella, organized by Justin O'Donnell.

01:32:17.260 Well, we're going to disagree on another thing then, I guess.

01:32:20.820 But, no, it is great because Stefan Kinsella can't sue me because if Stefan Kinsella tries to claim, like, rights, then he undoes his entire life's work and no one will ever take him seriously again. 0.98

01:32:29.200 Unless he comes with some sort of cogent argument why that's okay, which he fucking would with his autism. 0.66

01:32:36.160 This is why I think I did tweet this. 0.84

01:32:39.620 I was like, if I ever meet Stefan Kinsella, I'm just going to walk up to him and be like, hi, my name's Stefan Kinsella and I go with the property, does it exist? 1.00

01:32:48.940 And just watch his brain just melt as he's just like, you motherfucker. 1.00

01:32:54.340 Damn it, when I met him, we were talking about, like, Hoppa and stuff. 1.00

01:32:57.380 Missed the boat on that one. 0.99

01:32:59.840 I don't know.

01:33:00.700 I lost a lot of respect for him after Porkfest when he was all, like, telling people, see, you should have got vaccinated.

01:33:05.820 My symptoms were so much better because I got vaccinated. 1.00

01:33:08.760 I don't like that shit. 1.00

01:33:10.080 Because you can rewind time and figure out how it would have been. 1.00

01:33:12.860 I hate these arguments of, like, well, this is literally an unprovable assertion.

01:33:18.180 But also, Kinsella, he's, like, a little bit older and he's had testicular cancer and had a lot of treatments for that.

01:33:25.060 So his immune system is probably pretty comparable. 0.99

01:33:27.420 You're telling me this guy lost his balls and then started talking about how IP is fake and gay? 0.99

01:33:31.140 Like, I don't know if I shouldn't believe him anymore. 1.00

01:33:33.500 No, he was talking about how IP is fake and gay and then lost his balls. 0.99

01:33:36.560 It wasn't until after he lost his balls that he started calling himself the heavyweight. 1.00

01:33:42.220 Estrogen does help make you gain more fat. 0.99

01:33:44.580 Oh, man.

01:33:48.160 All right.

01:33:48.460 Do you guys want to drop the Tower Gang plugs?

01:33:51.640 Sure.

01:33:52.880 Yep.

01:33:53.360 Tower Power.

01:33:56.260 Coming up next week, we got two episodes.

01:33:59.400 On Monday, we got The Philosopher.

01:34:01.860 And on Wednesday, we got The Hoppians, Jared and Taylor.

01:34:07.420 So that's going to be some good stuff.

01:34:09.080 And then we got a 9-11 special coming up with – I think we already kind of blurted it out.

01:34:14.040 We got Ryan Dawson coming on that.

01:34:15.640 And we'll see if we have other guests on that.

01:34:18.940 We're literally – we're trying so hard.

01:34:20.940 Maybe.

01:34:22.000 We'll see what we can do about that.

01:34:23.540 Wait.

01:34:24.360 Were you the one that got on Bin Laden's niece? 0.80

01:34:28.280 No, that's Chase.

01:34:30.000 Oh, Chase.

01:34:30.980 Chase did.

01:34:31.580 That's right.

01:34:31.840 You guys have been on Chase's show.

01:34:32.940 Hit him up so we can –

01:34:33.620 Oh, we are.

01:34:34.400 We are.

01:34:35.600 He said he just emailed her.

01:34:37.640 So maybe we can just email her.

01:34:39.580 Yeah, email her. 0.99

01:34:40.360 That'd be fucking dope. 0.99

01:34:41.080 So we're trying to be that. 1.00

01:34:42.300 I don't know shit about her. 0.98

01:34:43.240 She follows me on Twitter. 0.99

01:34:44.680 It'd be really hard just to be like, it's this coming Saturday.

01:34:48.940 What's the date on that?

01:34:50.020 Don't worry.

01:34:51.000 Just –

01:34:51.520 No reason.

01:34:55.400 Do not worry about the date.

01:35:00.360 She's a megabot. 0.99

01:35:02.000 Like, Norman Lawton is like a hardcore megabot. 0.99

01:35:04.180 So if you get her and Malang Koste to go at it as a fucking Taliban bot? 1.00

01:35:09.240 Yeah, with Ryan Dawson. 0.99

01:35:10.740 With Ryan Dawson.

01:35:11.860 Yeah, just to put fire on the flames. 0.98

01:35:13.840 Can you imagine if we set up Bin Laden fucking – or that Bin Laden, Dawson and Malang for one episode? 1.00

01:35:21.120 I mean, me and Nick would have to sit that out. 0.97

01:35:22.640 That way it's not, like, overburdened.

01:35:23.880 But just you two?

01:35:24.840 Oh, my God.

01:35:25.420 You don't even have to do anything.

01:35:26.460 You just have to throw a reference. 0.99

01:35:27.120 I literally would take – I would literally just – I would literally hit you.

01:35:29.760 I would be like, hey, guys, this is Tower Power Hour.

01:35:32.040 We have Ryan Dawson. 1.00

01:35:33.060 We have this Bin Laden bitch. 1.00

01:35:34.480 And we have a Taliban member. 1.00

01:35:37.240 Have fun.

01:35:37.940 Go.

01:35:38.160 And then I would just sit back.

01:35:39.840 I might even leave the stream.

01:35:41.240 I'll just be – I'll be like, hey, guys, you can catch me in the chat.

01:35:43.300 I'll be here with y'all.

01:35:44.320 I'm just going to be watching.

01:35:46.200 Let's just be clear.

01:35:47.080 This is definitely a long shot.

01:35:48.780 You need to do it in your kitchen.

01:35:49.900 That way to add the effect of you, like, making popcorn in the background.

01:35:54.740 All right.

01:35:55.140 I'm on Twitter, at Gali San Jose.

01:35:57.800 I have the No Way Jose podcast.

01:36:00.220 I'm on YouTube and all the major podcatchers.

01:36:02.820 I just –

01:36:03.100 This guy had a 1,000.

01:36:04.640 Yeah.

01:36:04.800 I just hit 1,000. 0.98

01:36:06.020 So I got to figure out the monetization shit. 0.95

01:36:07.600 So I think I'm monetized now. 0.97

01:36:09.020 I mean, I got to set it up.

01:36:09.960 But whatever.

01:36:10.380 I'm basically at where I need to be.

01:36:12.620 So definitely holler at me.

01:36:13.760 I'm probably going to start doing some live streams. 0.97

01:36:15.640 That way I can get some of that fucking super chat money because that's where it's at. 0.99

01:36:18.580 I don't give a shit. 1.00

01:36:19.400 Give me that money, bitches. 1.00

01:36:20.860 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:21.020 By the way, shout out to – 0.99

01:36:22.180 I want to shout out to MD again for sending $100 fucking dollars. 0.98

01:36:25.740 And who was the guy that sent 50? 1.00

01:36:27.220 Because y'all are fucking insane. 0.98

01:36:28.780 You two need to start hitting up my stream here soon. 0.99

01:36:32.780 But also, Toad, who do we have after 9-11? 0.88

01:36:35.040 Because we had – we're booked out for like fucking – 0.68

01:36:37.240 We have Spike Cohen on the 13th. 0.98

01:36:39.740 That's right.

01:36:39.820 We're going to be on a couple of shows.

01:36:43.180 Like we're going on Dan Smott's show.

01:36:44.660 The system is down at some point.

01:36:46.700 I forget what else we're going on.

01:36:47.880 Tower Power.

01:36:48.480 I know we have Josh Denny coming up, libertarian comedian.

01:36:51.780 We have a lot of people scheduled.

01:36:53.660 I forget who they all are.

01:36:54.780 I just scheduled Spike for my show. 0.99

01:36:57.560 That motherfucker is harder to book than actual celebrities. 1.00

01:36:59.800 Like he's just got so much fucking going on. 1.00

01:37:03.160 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:03.640 Yeah.

01:37:04.100 I don't understand how we go. 1.00

01:37:05.520 You rude fucks. 0.99

01:37:06.180 I dropped a – today I dropped my Ace episode or my Benjamin Tucker episode with Ace for my Anarchist Handbook series. 0.99

01:37:13.780 I've done Rothbard with Dave Smith.

01:37:16.040 I've done Emma Goldman with Thaddeus Russell.

01:37:18.780 I did Sterner with Magnus Panvidia.

01:37:21.100 There will be more to come. 0.67

01:37:22.380 I'm going to try to hit every single one of them. 0.95

01:37:24.480 Yeah, definitely go hit that up. 0.94

01:37:25.580 You'll enjoy it.

01:37:26.740 Yeah, that's all I got.

01:37:29.080 It's good.

01:37:29.540 Sounds good.

01:37:30.420 All right.

01:37:31.420 It's great having you, Justin.

01:37:32.700 Thanks, man.

01:37:33.280 Thanks for coming on, man.

01:37:34.160 Good to see you, bud.

01:37:34.700 All right.

Tower Gang - September 03, 2021

Ep 30 - Boofing Gasoline w⧸ Justin O'Donnell

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