00:06:30.000We'll be joined by America First Legal President Gene Hamilton.
00:06:34.000He's been on the show before, but now, AFL, America First Legal, is representing Nick Shirley, the young citizen journalist who exposed the Minnesota daycare fraud and is now in California.
00:06:49.000They're representing Nick in his lawsuit against the state of California after California passed a law.
00:06:56.000Literally passed a law that could punish the people exposing fraud, journalists doing journalism for exposing the fraud instead of the people actually committing the fraud.
00:07:10.000I know that sounds insane, but bear in mind this is California, so I guess it is.
00:08:00.000Hundreds of pages of tax returns reporters could view but could not copy.
00:08:06.000And wildfire aid that somehow wandered away from wildfire victims.
00:08:12.000I mean, it's the only state with the only governor that literally can't put out a fire on the coast when you are literally on the Pacific Ocean.
00:08:36.000While President Trump's team spent yesterday serving subpoenas on nine elite universities over alleged J1 visa fraud, you know, it's just a little different.
00:08:46.000So we've got the news first, then Gene joins us.
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00:10:44.000Guys, we'll start in New York, where every Democrat official treats taxpayer money like it's someone else's problem.0.87
00:10:51.000And Letitia James walked into last night's attorney general debate ready to do what she always does talk about Trump, posture about Trump, obsess about Trump.
00:11:04.000Her Republican opponent, a longtime federal prosecutor, brought up one subject James would rather bury under another speech about my father her own Medicaid fraud control unit.
00:11:21.000HHS Inspector General found that New York's unit received 2,121 patient abuse or neglect referrals in fiscal 2025 and produced one, okay, one conviction.
00:12:58.000Apparently optional when the target is a Republican.
00:13:02.000And this is the same politician who campaigned for attorney general, promising she'd go into every office every day suing him, meaning my father.
00:13:13.000New Yorkers don't have an impartial attorney general.
00:13:16.000They have a Democrat campaign operation with subpoena power.
00:13:20.000And the patients her office was supposed to protect are the ones who ultimately paid the price.
00:13:27.000Now, out in California, where the political class wants you starting anywhere, You know, just stare at, start wherever you want, except for the invoice, because Nick Shirley went through Los Angeles looking at hospice and home health care businesses collecting taxpayer money.
00:13:44.000He found one listed hospice that he said had billed about $2.5 million.
00:14:49.000So, this isn't some random thing that's happening here inside of California and Los Angeles in this Van Nuys area.
00:14:54.000Quite literally, we've been to two locations so far, and they're just popping up these home health care, these hospice centers, and they're not even doing anything.
00:15:03.000Justice Department prosecutors charged eight people in schemes alleging more than $50 million in intended losses, including hospice bills for beneficiaries who were not terminally ill.
00:15:15.000And services that weren't medically necessary or weren't even provided.
00:15:23.000Recent tax filings reviewed by the Daily Mail showed Jennifer Seibel Newsom and her company received about $300,000 a year from her nonprofit.
00:15:33.000While reporters looking at Gavin Newsom's taxes got more than 700 pages they could view but not copy.
00:15:40.000You know, you can look at it in a room over here, but you can't copy it.
00:15:47.000NBC Los Angeles found in May that about $895 million, almost a billion dollars, of the state's initial $1.5 billion fire fund was still unused.
00:16:53.000How bad the system is, where in its own state, in its own city, it takes up to six years after they purchase it to even make any sort of progress.
00:17:01.000I mean, this is all the progress you're seeing here inside the state of California.
00:17:06.000That is about $625,000 per unit, six years after the purchase, with the project still nowhere near completion.
00:17:17.000So, what did California do when Nick kept showing people the books and ultimately the buildings or the lack of buildings?
00:17:24.000Newsom signed AB 2624, the Stop Nick Shirley Act, a law that can force journalists to pull truthful information about immigration service providers.
00:17:49.000And now the Trump administration just aimed the same basic question at nine of the biggest universities in America Where did the money go?
00:17:57.000Who got the job, and was the visa system abused?
00:18:02.000Yesterday, Labor Department Inspector General announced an investigation into alleged J1 visa fraud at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Brown, Caltech, UC Davis, Arizona State, and Pitt.
00:18:15.000Inside my partner, Secretary Keith Sonderling, I am announcing a historic investigation into the J1 visa fraud involving nine major American universities Pitt, Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Brown, UC Davis, and Caltech, Arizona State, and MIT.
00:18:37.000Subpoenas have been served, investigations are underway, and nobody will be getting a free pass because their name is carved into an expensive building.
00:18:50.000Prestige, you know, or fancy alumni networks doesn't grant you immunity.
00:18:55.000An endowment isn't a hall pass, and a fancy Latin motto does not give you cover.
00:19:01.000Now, the J1 is an exchange visa often used for researchers, professors, and graduate students.
00:19:08.000The issue here is simple whether elite schools use that system to undercut American workers on federally funded work.
00:19:25.000I want to make one final announcement here because while we see a lot of H 1B visa fraud, we also see a lot of J 1 visa fraud.0.96
00:19:32.000And this is where some of America's most elite universities bring in foreigners, again, to undercut the wages of American residents.0.85
00:19:39.000Now, there are nine universities in particular that we believe merit an investigation.1.00
00:19:45.000Those universities are Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Brown, the University of Pittsburgh, UC Davis, Caltech, Arizona State, and MIT.
00:19:53.000And what we see is that when you employ an American worker as a graduate student, as a researcher, they're making about $20,000 more than someone brought in under a J-1 visa.
00:20:04.000And importantly, these universities are employing J-1 visas for federally funded grants at a rate of about 61%.
00:20:13.000So, something weird is going on at these universities.0.53
00:20:15.000They're using these visas way too much.
00:20:18.000They're using them to undercut the wages of American grad students and American researchers, and it simply has to stop.
00:20:25.000And whether it's visa fraud, healthcare fraud, or frankly, any other kind of fraud, it needs to be at the top of your mind when you go to vote in the midterms.
00:20:59.000Trans agendas back in school, in your classrooms, with your children.
00:21:02.000Just listen to all the things we've talked about on all the other shows about what they actually intend on doing.
00:21:07.000You know, all that stuff they don't say in front of the mainstream media because the mainstream media wouldn't cover it anyway, but seem to say a lot on.
00:21:13.000Hidden camera when they don't know the video's actually rolling.
00:21:31.000You know, people know Nick Shirley, obviously, from the Minnesota daycare investigations, the hits on the ground reporting, all the things that he has been finding in California.
00:21:44.000You represent him legally and otherwise.
00:21:48.000Tell us a little bit about that, especially the California response, because I thought that was sort of interesting given all of the noise that's out there right now.
00:21:58.000The American people all know and recognize Nick is a patriot.
00:22:02.000Nick is doing what people should have been doing for decades before him, which is exposing stuff that's just out there in the open, all the fraud that's going on.
00:22:11.000And it's taken leadership from your father, the president, and his administration to root out and combat this fraud.
00:22:18.000But Nick goes out there with a camera, right?
00:22:20.000He goes out and he just exposes what anyone else could expose, but no one else had the guts to do.
00:22:58.000And we built this timeline out in the lawsuit.
00:23:02.000We represent Nick Shirley, as you just mentioned.
00:23:05.000In a lawsuit against some officials in the state of California.
00:23:08.000So Nick shows up in California at the end of January.
00:23:11.000Within days, the California government is in Gavin Newsom's press office.
00:23:17.000They're agitating against him, they're saying things about him, going back and forth.
00:23:21.000Nick is saying, I'm going to expose some fraud.
00:23:23.000Officials in California are saying, You're harassing people.
00:23:26.000And then within a couple of weeks, the attorney general's wife introduces a bill intended to stop the kind of activities that Nick Shirley is up to.
00:23:35.000So obviously, exposing fraud, exposing fraud by people, especially.
00:23:40.000What is known under this law that they eventually passed and the Gavin Newsom signed into law for immigration support services providers, right?
00:23:50.000So these are people who provide services to quote unquote immigrants across the state of California.
00:23:56.000And they are saying that if you are a person who exposes the information about these people, that you can then be subject to liability, civil liability to the tune of thousands of dollars and orders saying that you cannot show this person's information.
00:24:13.000On camera and publicly identify who these people are who are engaged in this fraud.
00:24:19.000It's one of the craziest things you could ever imagine.
00:24:21.000Yeah, it was literally like he drops the video and it was like, what, like three or four days, and left wing lawmakers are introducing a bill to basically stop him from literally exposing fraud.
00:24:34.000It's not like, well, he did it wrong or he didn't get something right or it was malicious, but it was like, no, no, no, rather than fix the fraud, we're just going to stop you from exposing it.
00:24:56.000But what should that tell the American people beyond the courts?
00:24:59.000Well, I think what it should tell the American people is that when you are so captured by leftism in your institutions, right, like the state of California is, that you have people who are so committed to the fraud and perpetuating the fraud because they have other ends, they have other.
00:25:17.000Things that they want to accomplish through the use of the fraud that this is what happens.
00:25:23.000So, you have somebody who actually shows up and actually tries to stop it and tries to expose it.
00:25:28.000And yet, you have officials in their family members at the highest levels of the California government trying to silence it, trying to stop it, trying to stop Nick from speaking out and exposing this stuff.
00:25:38.000And so, of course, we all know, as goes California, California is a leader for the liberals and for the left.
00:25:44.000And so, what's going to happen if this succeeds?
00:25:48.000If they are able to stop Nick from exposing, or if they're able to reduce his ability to expose all of the fraud that's going on, you know for a fact that every single other blue state out there is going to try to copy this.
00:26:01.000They are going to try to replicate this law, create more legal regimes that stop people from exposing wrongdoing, stop people from exposing the fraud and all of the illegality that's going on in these blue states.
00:26:15.000And they're going to try to shut down the Americans' First Amendment rights, the American people's First Amendment rights, all across this country beyond just the borders of California.
00:26:24.000Yeah, you know, when California does it, New York's going to do it.
00:26:27.000I mean, California calls it, you know, it's an anti doxing law for immigration support workers.
00:27:27.000We are confident, we are absolutely confident that the law that California passed violates the First Amendment.
00:27:34.000We have a lot of great arguments that we've laid out.
00:27:36.000What we've asked for is a preliminary injunction from the court that says that the officials in California who are charged with enforcement of this regime, so the Secretary of State in the state of California, who is responsible for administering this regime that allows people to register.
00:27:52.000With the states, their existence of their immigration support services provider, business, or whatever the case may be, and to stop them from being able to use this against Nick.
00:28:02.000Now, the law doesn't technically kick in until October 1st of next year.
00:28:08.000But so, why would we go into court now?
00:28:10.000Well, it's because this is already could have a chilling effect on Nick's behavior or the behavior of other people across the country.
00:28:16.000They don't care what happens after two years.
00:28:17.000They want to get through a 28-person presidential cycle, and then whatever happens, we're in control.
00:28:21.000We'll rewrite the laws at a higher level at that point.
00:28:27.000And one of the other things that they're trying to do is that they're trying to use this law, and the law imposes liability on people for things that are in existence on that day, October 1st, 2027.
00:28:40.000So if somebody reposts or if Nick reposts one of his videos from right now, what it does is it exposes him, it opens him up to liability potentially down the line, even after the effective date.
00:28:52.000And so right now, what it's trying to do, the officials and state, The state of California.
00:28:56.000We're trying to get Nick to go through all of his videos and take down all of the examples of fraud.
00:29:01.000They want him to not report on these things.
00:29:03.000They want other people like Nick to not report on these things.
00:29:06.000They don't want people talking about this stuff because it's inconvenient to their political ends.
00:29:22.000We're going to win for Nick and beyond just for Nick, also for the broader, more broadly speaking, for the people of California and for the American people.
00:29:29.000Yeah, Gene, it seems like a really slippery slope, right?0.97
00:29:32.000I mean, you see what's going on in the UK where, you know, a mother could, their daughter could get raped by a migrant gang of, you know, roving sociopaths.1.00
00:29:42.000And she's like, these people shouldn't be in our country.0.99
00:29:45.000Just like literally a grieving mother, you know, with a victim daughter of a rape gang.
00:29:51.000And the person that tweets about it and then perhaps promotes the tweet gets more jail time than the rapist.
00:29:56.000I mean, what does that say about where we are as a society?
00:29:59.000I mean, this is a, you know, you said slippery slope, but man, this feels like a slippery cliff because if this ever happened, I mean, there's no stopping the insanity from continuing.
00:30:11.000I mean, look, it's, you're 100% right about that because look, This is beyond a slippery slope.
00:30:17.000It is a slippery cliff because all it's going to take is for this is the way the left operates.
00:30:22.000They try to weaponize our institutions, they try to weaponize the ability of its foot soldiers to inflict harm upon people who believe differently or who think differently.
00:30:36.000And so sometimes that's using other actors, other private actors.
00:30:40.000Most of the time, it involves using the government to silence dissent.
00:30:44.000And we saw what they did under the Biden administration.
00:30:49.000I mean, it's only been a few years since the Biden administration was caught with its pants down in bed with big companies that were silencing American speech online on different platforms.
00:31:00.000Yeah, that was Governor Jeff Landry and now Senator Eric Schmidt when they were both in their attorney general capacities, both in Missouri and Louisiana.
00:31:11.000They took that on because it was them coordinating with, I guess, Meta at the time and Facebook to basically be like, nope, these are the talking points.
00:31:18.000Anything else gets you banned, blocked, whatever it was.
00:31:20.000And They were just forbidding anything that wasn't literally dictated essentially from the White House.
00:31:26.000And, you know, that again, slippery cliff.
00:32:20.000And so, this is why this case is so important for Nick, and we're so proud to fight for Nick, but it has broader implications across the country.
00:32:27.000And the American people just need to understand, they need to remember.
00:32:30.000This is what's happening in California, but it's not going to be isolated to California.
00:32:35.000It's not only going to spread there and to other blue states, but if the left seizes power at the national level, at the federal level, these are the types of things that they're going to look to try to do to continue to perpetuate their schemes against the American people, against the government, against our taxpayers.
00:32:53.000We all have to collectively do our part to stop these things.
00:32:56.000Yeah, because more broadly, to the people watching and to the American people, what's it say?
00:33:03.000To all of you, when California lawmakers are more interested in literally going after the people finding the fraud, finding the fraud, exposing the fraud, instead of actually going after the fraudsters themselves.
00:33:16.000I mean, this is literally like giving fraudsters a carte blanche to continue doing what they're doing.
00:33:23.000Well, it's just wild because if you had any kind of reasonable government, any reasonable government officials in the state of California, they would say, first, oh my God, well, thank you, Nick Shirley.
00:33:33.000Thank you for exposing this information.
00:33:36.000Thank you for letting us find these people who are stealing money from the people of California and bringing it to our attention.
00:33:45.000He gets a bill that gets, it's not officially named after him, but it's, you know, colloquially named after him, the Stop Nick Shirley Act.
00:33:53.000And that's the thanks that the state of California gets because they don't want, apparently, they don't want to stop the fraud.
00:33:58.000What they want to do is perpetuate it and they want to stop Nick from exposing what they are doing and what they are up to.
00:34:46.000I mean, is there a sort of grassroots uprising that's actually happening, or are people still sort of oblivious to it because it's just not covered by the news there and no one will actually talk about it?
00:35:13.000Amongst the people of California, which is a real shame because California, of course, is one of the most beautiful states in the entire country.
00:35:18.000It's blessed by riches of just natural beauty and resources and all kinds of geographical advantages and industries that were there, but they're running it down into the ground.
00:35:29.000And that is exactly what the left will do to every institution across this country if people aren't willing to open their eyes and say, Oh my God, what is happening to my home?
00:35:39.000What is happening to where I live, to my community, the world around me?
00:35:45.000And so if you think it's just, again, If people at home are sitting there thinking, oh, well, it's just crazy California, that's just what happens.
00:35:52.000People remember this is just a short span of history.
00:35:55.000This has been in the last several decades that they have run that state into the ground, a place that produced Ronald Reagan for the country, is now one of the most left wing extreme governments in the entire country.
00:36:10.000And it happened practically from a historical perspective overnight.
00:36:14.000Yeah, I mean, when Nick warned this bill could really hit journalists, not just himself, but with fines and other things, Assemblywoman Mia Bontas' answer was, Womp, womp.
00:36:24.000And her husband is the attorney general, Rob Bonta, who gets to enforce all of this.
00:36:39.000You would think that this would be a big, juicy story for literally the biggest names in journalism, not a young guy like Nick, who's starting out and was doing a lot of this with an iPhone recorder when he started doing it.
00:37:02.000Yeah, I mean, it appears to me, and as we allege in the facts of the case, I mean, you don't have to be a rocket scientist for the folks at home to connect the dots here, to figure out what's going on.
00:37:15.000The Attorney General of the state of California is the person who's charged with enforcing some of the provisions of this law.
00:37:21.000He's, of course, the chief law enforcement officer in the state of California, and his wife.
00:37:27.000She's the lead sponsor of this legislation that's intended to go after this person who is who Rob Banta, quite frankly, should be thinking.
00:37:35.000Rob Banta should be going to Nick Shirley and shaking his hand for exposing things and giving them leads.
00:37:46.000So, I mean, you know, it's just so frustrating because for the folks at home, everyone at home who thinks about it, looks at the facts, and sitting on their couch, maybe they're watching a show, watching the news or something, if it was presented to them the way that we're presenting it to them and the way that Nick presents the story, they would all say, well, this is clearly a problem.
00:38:09.000But to your point, Don, to your point, where are the rest of the news outlets?
00:38:14.000Where are the traditional legacy media outlets who are out there saying, oh my God, the Attorney General of California's wife introduced a bill to try to target journalists from exposing information and to stop them from exposing information?
00:38:27.000This is the kind of thing that, if it was replicated on the right, would be, you know, oh, this would be a major scandal.
00:38:34.000I mean, you'd hear nothing, you'd hear about nothing other than this.
00:38:38.000I mean, so talk about that a little bit because, again, like Nick has.
00:38:42.000You, he is America First Legal in his corner.
00:39:46.000If you look at this law and you look at the way that it's written, if you're an independent journalist or even if you're somebody who has certain stature in the field and you look at the liability that you could face just for exposing fraud from some of these immigration support services providers, you would say, Well, God, I don't want to deal with the hassle of this because it's not just the ultimate judgment, it's not just the ultimate fine that is issued that is the problem.
00:40:16.000It's having to go then hire a lawyer to defend you against one of these cases that gets filed against you by somebody who just says, you know what?
00:40:25.000I don't have any reason to believe that there's any hostility behind what the person said, but I'm going to haul you into court anyways.
00:40:31.000And one of the things that shows that this is their intent is the process, the pain from the process being the point, is that there's an attorney's fees provision in this law that only works one way.
00:40:44.000So if you're Nick Shirley or if you're some other journalist and you get sued, And you end up winning on your case, you don't get the ability to recover attorney's fees under the statutory regime they passed.
00:40:56.000However, if you're one of these other people who brings one of these meritless claims and then your case settles or you eventually win or whatever the case may be, you get your attorney's fees.
00:41:05.000And anyone who has any exposure to the legal system and lawyers understands that those can be significant financial burdens that are imposed on you, even from just having a process that's ongoing that doesn't even get to final judgment.
00:41:22.000It allows the bad guys to play with house money because they know they're going to get their stuff covered.
00:41:25.000It allows the plaintiff's guys to be able to come in there and fight it because they're probably going to get it on contingency and then they spend the rest of eternity going after the person exposing the fraud.
00:41:36.000Again, we know the legacy media isn't showing up on this, but has anyone?
00:41:41.000Because I mean, I feel like, honestly, if California passed a law that lets someone force the LA Times to pull a story, again, you'd never hear the end of it.
00:41:50.000It would be like, oh my God, that's a threat to democracy or Nazi fascist.
00:42:00.000And one of the other things that's really rich about this law.
00:42:04.000In the legislature in California, the intent they described kind of the current administration's hostility towards immigrants.
00:42:10.000And so that was one of the reasons why they claimed that they needed this law to stop the doxing of these immigration support services providers.
00:42:18.000But these same left wing institutions, these same politicians, some of these same institutes in the media don't have any problems whatsoever with the doxing of law enforcement, with the doxing of an ICE officer or an agent who is out there trying to deport.
00:42:47.000Minnesota would love a law like this because they could go back and they could sue him and then pretend like there wasn't hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud committed upon the taxpayer of Minnesota to the benefit of Somalians and Al Shabaab ultimately, or whatever terror group that Boko Haram, who the hell knows.
00:43:08.000Whichever terror group half those people were sending it overseas to, I mean, it would never end.
00:43:13.000I mean, it's literally, it feels like we're actually talking about like a South Park episode, right?
00:43:18.000Like it's like, it's like, this can't be real.
00:43:22.000I mean, it's the kind of thing that if you had told someone, if you laid this out 20 years ago in a South Park episode or 30 years ago in a Saturday Night Live skit or something, it's the kind of thing that would be a joke.
00:43:33.000People would say, this could not be reality in the United States of America.
00:43:43.000That's why conservatives and just normal Americans have to be willing to step in and step up and fight every time the left tries to force one of these things down their throats, some new law or some new regime, or to try to do some new tactic to change the laws and to change things to disadvantage conservatives or normal Americans.
00:44:03.000That's why they have to be willing to step up and to fight back.
00:44:07.000So, Gene, how does this case really tie into America First Legal's mission?
00:44:12.000Uh, you know, more broadly, and what does it say about sort of the entrenched lawfare we're up against, you know, in these leftist, you know, blue states like California?
00:44:22.000Look, when Stephen and I started America First Legal, it's because we looked around at the world and realized that there wasn't the equivalent of, you know, an ACLU on the right, some good organizations that were out there, but there's nobody who was out there kind of fighting for American principles, traditional American principles and values, and the constitution and laws of the United States.
00:44:41.000And one of the things that I think is most compelling about this particular story is here you have.
00:44:47.000America First Legal, an organization that's only five years old, stepping up to represent Nick Shirley and to sue the state of California to stop the enforcement of this law against him.
00:44:57.000Now, meanwhile, the American Civil Liberties Union and some of these other left wing groups that are out there, supposedly in favor of free speech, supposedly out there in favor of the First Amendment, are out there using all of their time and resources defending illegal aliens and trying to sue the President of the United States and sue the administration for every single thing that they try to do.
00:45:19.000So, it's what this represents for us more broadly this is just another front in our battle.
00:45:27.000For the American people, for the country, whether it's this, whether it's stopping schools from transiting kids, whether it's stopping ridiculous DEI programs, whether it's fighting illegal immigration, wherever it is, defending sheriffs across the country, whatever the case may be, there has always been a need for the right to fight back and to go on offense while also trying to play defense and trying to step up and do the same types of things the left does,
00:45:55.000but do them actually for good and for virtuous purposes.0.94
00:46:12.000I'm like, well, no, why don't we get more involved in the primary and then do what the Democrats do, which is like, hey, if the Democrat Socialist of America candidate does not win, or if they do, the one that was the alleged moderate still goes and votes for them 100% of the time.
00:46:28.000If the DSA candidate doesn't win and the moderate wins, The DSA voters 100% of the time.
00:46:35.000We sit there like, well, we're going to teach them a lesson.
00:46:37.000The general's not the time to teach these guys that lesson.
00:46:40.000The primary is, and we have to do a better job at that.
00:46:43.000But to basically be like, you know what?
00:46:44.000We're just going to let the left rule.
00:46:49.000We'll allow the crime to start back up again when murder rates are down, when violent crime rates are down, when rents are dropping down because of the deportations.
00:47:09.000Look, conservatives can't stay home, whether that's when it comes to courts of law, whether it comes to the ballot box, whether it comes to anything.
00:47:18.000People have to realize that the other side is not going to stop.
00:47:22.000And they are going to do exactly what you just said.
00:47:24.000It's like, look, I mean, the DSA is on the rise.
00:47:26.000They're running candidates all across the country, but they're not going to sit at home on their hands if their candidate doesn't win in the primaries.
00:47:33.000They're going to go and support the person who wins.
00:47:36.000Who represents and is going to help advance the policies that they generally believe in.
00:47:42.000And yet, on the other side, a lot of folks sit there and say, oh, you know, the Trump administration, they're not doing anything, or I don't like this one thing that they did.
00:47:49.000I don't like this other one thing that they did.
00:47:52.000And they completely disregard the fact that if the other side seizes power, their life, whether it's when it comes to crime, whether when it comes to immigration, whether when it comes to the cost of living, gas prices, inflation, all those things are going to be demonstrably worse.
00:48:07.000Yeah, you think gas prices are high right now, and I think that's all fixable, but wait till they stop drilling.
00:48:35.000I mean, it's very frustrating because.
00:48:38.000People have to realize that you can't just show up once every four years and hope that the world is going to become revolutionarily better.
00:48:47.000And it certainly is the case because President Trump was elected in 2024 that the world is demonstrably revolutionarily better today than it was just a few years ago.
00:49:51.000Lawsuits and investigations and exposes posted there.
00:49:56.000But one of the things we are fighting across all kinds of issue areas.
00:49:59.000People think, you know, thank God we have an administration in Washington that's trying to do its part to stop a lot of these illegal things that have been going on for years and years, whether that's again trans and kids in schools, whether it's DEI policies at work, whether it's any number of things, racial discrimination and university admissions.
00:50:16.000Now, we are active in different lawsuits all across the country, all across different issue areas.
00:50:23.000Especially when it comes to suing corporations who are engaged in illegal racial discrimination against workers.
00:50:28.000Universities, we have an active lawsuit against the University of California school system right now related to discrimination in its undergraduate admissions on all of its campuses across the state of California.
00:50:39.000But, Gene, I was told last week that they're really excited because graduation rates are through the roof, even though graduates do not have a basic understanding of math anymore.
00:50:51.000I was like, wait, the win is that we, like, We gave them a diploma that they didn't actually earn or couldn't possibly earn at any other time in history, but they graduated.
00:51:12.000I mean, like, it's, I know folks probably see these online every now and then.
00:51:16.000People, someone on social media will post one of these old tests that students had to pass like 100 years ago to pass the eighth grade.
00:51:22.000And imagine giving that to the graduating class in a lot of these places across the state of California.
00:51:28.000Today, and I think you would get an answer as to what exactly is happening here.
00:51:32.000Look, we as an organization, we've celebrated fighting in these cases, but it's not enough.
00:51:38.000We also have to build institutions, we also have to train up lawyers, we have to be willing to spread out and insert ourselves into battles all across the country.
00:51:47.000We've already trained over 150 lawyers and deploy them across the United States.
00:51:51.000We have a new initiative called the Next 250 that we're launching that's intended to train, hire, and mentor 250 more.
00:51:59.000Conservative lawyers, to it's not just going to all work for us, but to work in law firms, to go work for judges, could all work for the in the Trump administration.
00:52:08.000Well, and that's the big thing, right?
00:52:09.000Because that's the thing you sort of mentioned earlier like the other side, you know, I said it's their religion.
00:52:13.000You said this is all they do, this is all they think about it.
00:52:15.000You know, the ACLU, at least on paper, is supposed to represent all Americans.
00:52:19.000It is not, it is a hundred percent partisan organization, it is a left wing, you know, marketing machine.
00:52:56.000Look, I mean, just for the folks at home, it's something that's not widely known, but I think it's intuitive to most people.
00:53:02.000The other side, every year, not just like a battleship type of thing, but every year in annual funding, over a billion dollars, over a billion dollars is going into these left wing nonprofit legal firms.0.72
00:53:15.000And operations to trans your kids to open up our borders to illegal immigrants, many of whom can't read, many of whom are violent offenders.0.91
00:53:25.000I mean, it seems like civilizational suicide to me, but you know, yeah, it's but it's it's crazy a billion dollars every year going to these things, and it's funded and it's and they and they have an entire ecosphere and network.
00:53:38.000Um, and they are dedicated, but as you said, I and I truly believe what you said as well, which is for a lot of these people, this is their religion.
00:53:46.000This indoctrination and this thing is this is the God that they worship.
00:53:50.000And so they are not going to stop worshiping.
00:53:52.000They're not going to stop following their religion.
00:53:55.000They're going to continue to exercise what they believe in and they're going to continue to fight for their things.
00:54:00.000So on our side, we have to have people step up.
00:54:02.000We have to have people willing to step up and say, No, enough.
00:54:10.000We're going to fight until we can't fight anymore.
00:54:13.000You know, look, people were obviously all the work that we do is donor funded.
00:54:17.000Folks can contribute anytime that they want to aflegal.org.
00:54:21.000But if they're not so inclined, just spread the word.
00:54:23.000You know, spread the word about the fact that there are people out there who are trying to do the right thing, who are trying to be helpful, who are trying to do things that should have been done for decades and decades and decades and weren't.
00:54:35.000And so now we've got a lot of ground to catch up.
00:54:42.000We're going to keep fighting because, you know, look, who do we have as a wonderful role model for anyone who is a Fighter, anyone who believes at their core that this country is worth saving is Donald Trump.
00:54:54.000And if you're not willing to fight equally as hard as he is for the good of this country going forward, then, you know, I don't know.
00:55:01.000Maybe you got to find something else to go do.
00:56:35.000I mean, I think, you know, there's no secret that you're known for sort of telling it like it is.
00:56:40.000And with today and the cancel culture that we've seen out there, I mean, I loved what I saw you say the other day, which is, you know, basically, if you don't respect the flag and the country, get the hell out.
00:56:52.000I think a lot more people probably need to hear that.
00:57:33.000I mean, and then they had a good life.0.99
00:57:37.000My dad was, you know, my dad was in the Marines, came home from the Marines, and I got to know him real good because he whipped my ass a lot, but that's okay.0.99
00:58:20.000You know, maybe a few more kids in this country probably need a little bit more ass whooping than participation medals and trophies.1.00
00:58:30.000How can you say that these poor kids, there's, they, oh, don't, we can't touch these kids.0.56
00:58:36.000I mean, I can't tell you, my dad was a Marine, like I said, and he came, I didn't know, I didn't really know my dad until I was about five years old, because he was in the Marines.
00:58:49.000When he came home, I don't know if you've ever seen that dress belt the Marines wear, that big leather thick.0.98
00:58:57.000I got acquainted with that real well because that thing found my ass constantly.0.98
00:59:02.000Well, my mom's weapon of choice was the wooden spoon.0.99
00:59:05.000Yep, but yes, it's definitely similar.
00:59:09.000My grandparents had a little bit of that mentality too, so I got it.
01:02:33.000I mean, You know, obviously, with playing for Da Bears, you know, with Mike Ditka.
01:02:37.000I mean, it's just so cool to hear about it.
01:02:39.000But I mean, when I contrast that, when you're talking about playing and being, you know, all pro for $16,000 a year or $18,000 a year, when I contrast that to some of the contracts where I hear, you know, of this systemic oppression of NFL players that are signing, you know, deals for $18, $20, $50 million, I mean, what's that like for you looking back and seeing what's going on now in terms of the pay scale?
01:03:07.000And I mean, you were grateful to play for 18,000.
01:03:11.000It seems like so many people in the NFL are ungrateful and feel oppressed playing for 18 million.