Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - April 27, 2023


Pro-Trump Twitter Icon Catturd Comes Out of the Litter Box for an Exclusive Interview | Ep. 24


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 39 minutes

Words per Minute

186.04915

Word Count

18,546

Sentence Count

1,568

Misogynist Sentences

31

Hate Speech Sentences

35


Summary

Cat Turd is a political provocateur, meme lord, and all-around internet sensation. We talk to him about how he got started on social media, the controversy surrounding Budweiser's controversial partnership with transgender internet celebrity Dylan Mulvaney, and what it means for the future of the Democratic Party. We also talk about why Anheuser-Busch is actually a big supporter of the Republican Party, and why they should be worried about the impact their lobbying efforts are having on the upcoming mid-term elections. And we take a look at the history of their political giving and lobbying in Washington, D.C., and the impact they ve had on both sides of the aisle. Finally, we talk about how the company is using their influence to help elect conservative candidates and what they should do in the mid-terms. This episode is brought to you by Triggered, a production of the Fall School of Business podcast by the left-leaning podcast, The Daily Wire. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavous Vellian. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. All rights reserved. Please don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, and subscribe to our other shows on Apple Podcasts, and leave us a review on whatever you're listening to! Subscribe to our podcast, and share the podcast on your favorite streaming platform! if you like what you've listened to, share it with a friend, and tag us on Insta, and tell a friend about what you think of it's value, and we'll be sure to mention it in a friend of ours on the next episode of the podcast. Thank you'll get a shoutout! and a shout out in next week's episode! :) Timestamps: 4:00 - 5:30 - What's your favorite drink? 6:15 - How do you like it? 7:40 - Who's the most lit? 8:00 9: What do you'd like to hear from someone else? 11:00 | What's a good friend of yours? 12: What's the worst thing you've heard of me? 13:00 -- 15:10 - Is it a good thing? 16:10 17:20 - What are you're a lit person in the United States? 18:40 19:30 -- Who else is a lit guy?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good evening and welcome to another edition of the Fall School of Business. I'm your host,
00:00:29.000 Welcome to another episode of Triggered.
00:00:31.000 Thank you guys again for joining us.
00:00:34.000 Today we're interviewing, this is a first for Triggered, probably a first for a lot of, we're interviewing a faceless guest.
00:00:41.000 We're interviewing Twitter sensation Cat Turd.
00:00:46.000 Political provocateur, meme lord, amongst other things, but someone who's done an incredible job amassing an incredible following on social media and doing so in a faceless manner.
00:01:00.000 So after this, I'm sure the left will be out there trying to dox cat turd, but it is amazing.
00:01:08.000 That someone with a faceless meme can basically generate this much insanity and drive the left so crazy.
00:01:17.000 But before we get to Cat Turd, before we have some fun, today I actually put up all the questions because it's actually fascinating to sort of watch.
00:01:25.000 As I promoted Cat Turd being on here, I'm seeing more sort of response in the live chat than...
00:01:34.000 For anyone I've had on.
00:01:36.000 I've had the Speaker of the House, congressmen, senators, this kind of stuff.
00:01:40.000 And I'm seeing it blow up like never before.
00:01:44.000 So Cat Turd has gotten to them.
00:01:47.000 He's a sensation. And I think we'll have a lot of fun with this one.
00:01:51.000 But I'm going to go to the live stream a lot and see where you guys are going with this.
00:01:56.000 And let's just have some fun.
00:01:58.000 But before we do that, A quick rundown of the top headlines.
00:02:03.000 We've all seen the backlash that Budweiser is facing over the trans marketing scheme.
00:02:10.000 The internet melted down over Bud Light's marketing engagement with transgender internet celebrity named Dylan Mulvaney.
00:02:19.000 Probably, like...
00:02:21.000 The biggest celebrity paid spokesperson in the world right now, and no one understands or could fathom why, especially for female brands like Nike sports bras.
00:02:34.000 That's the world in which we live today.
00:02:36.000 But, guys, people are pissed, and justifiably so.
00:02:40.000 Anheuser-Busch is an iconic American company.
00:02:44.000 This is Budweiser, you know, with the Clydesdales and with the football and bald eagles and, you know, the Bud Bowl and, like, real men of genius.
00:02:54.000 This is where they were.
00:02:56.000 So what are they doing?
00:02:58.000 What on earth are they doing with a trans TikToker in a bathtub?
00:03:02.000 It's bizarre. Is this a one-off colossal screw-up or is it something bigger?
00:03:07.000 This could be...
00:03:09.000 Just the act of one rogue, woke lunatic in a marketing department filled with leftist staffers.
00:03:17.000 The Daily Wire is now reporting that no one at the senior level of Anheuser-Busch was aware of the partnership with...
00:03:26.000 Dylan Mulvaney. That makes sense.
00:03:28.000 And I saw a little bit about that.
00:03:30.000 Charlie Kirk was talking about it.
00:03:31.000 My friend and friend of the show was talking about it the other day.
00:03:35.000 So I decided to look in on it.
00:03:37.000 I had my team get into the details.
00:03:39.000 And we looked into the political giving and lobbying history of Anheuser-Busch.
00:03:45.000 And guess what? They actually support Republicans.
00:03:49.000 In woke corporate America, Anheuser-Busch supports Republicans.
00:03:54.000 Last cycle, their employees and their PAC gave about 60% to Republicans and 40% to Democrats.
00:04:02.000 That's literally almost unheard of in corporate America.
00:04:06.000 Where it's really easy to go woke, where they do so constantly, where there's a consequence to actually being a conservative.
00:04:14.000 So 60-40 to the conservative side is kind of a big deal.
00:04:18.000 And they actually went pretty big for some important races.
00:04:23.000 For example, they went big for Kevin McCarthy's effort to take back the House and fire Nancy Pelosi.
00:04:30.000 That's a big one.
00:04:31.000 We had Kevin, he was the first guest on the show.
00:04:34.000 And people criticized me at the time for supporting him because I knew the guys he had brought in for months prior
00:04:41.000 to that and what he was going to do.
00:04:42.000 And honestly, I think we're looking at the results.
00:04:45.000 We're seeing his favorability.
00:04:47.000 He's delivering all the promises that he made to the Republican base and our people.
00:04:54.000 Also unheard of for someone once they amassed power in Washington, D.C. So he's proving the haters wrong, and it's a great thing for Republicans.
00:05:03.000 You know who else Anheuser-Busch went big for?
00:05:06.000 They went big for J.D. Vance in Ohio, literally the most lit person in the United States Senate as far as I'm concerned.
00:05:13.000 A good friend, someone who's fighting hard, someone who's one of the few guys you'd actually want in a fight with you in the United States Senate, even on the Republican side.
00:05:23.000 And on the lobbying front, we looked into the bills that Anheuser-Busch was working.
00:05:29.000 You know what they're focused on, guys?
00:05:31.000 They're focused on taxes and trade.
00:05:34.000 Things that actually impact their business.
00:05:37.000 They haven't done any lobbying for like the random pet issues of the day and the nonsense and the BLM crap.
00:05:46.000 I didn't find that.
00:05:48.000 They focused on the things that affect their job.
00:05:51.000 They focused on things that affect their business and not on the things that have nothing to do with selling beer like the rest of woke corporate America does.
00:06:01.000 That actually makes them unusual in America right now, where corporations do all the woke stuff, spend millions and sometimes billions of dollars pushing an agenda that has nothing to do with their products.
00:06:16.000 So, like, that's unusual in corporate America and in a good way.
00:06:20.000 Again, this isn't how woke companies are operating.
00:06:24.000 So we kept digging.
00:06:26.000 A couple years ago, a leftist organization, the so-called Human Rights Campaign, put out a letter demanding that schools let teenage boys in skirts in girls' bathrooms.
00:06:37.000 Something that anyone who's been watching this show understands that I would not be a fan of.
00:06:42.000 Nor would any father or reasonable individual who's not become a total sociopath.
00:06:50.000 Over 300 massive companies signed on to this crap, including Pepsi, Amazon, American Airlines, General Mills, General Motors, Google, Marriott. I could go on and on.
00:07:08.000 It's a who's who of corporate America.
00:07:11.000 You know who didn't sign on to that list?
00:07:16.000 Anheuser-Busch. So here's the deal.
00:07:19.000 Anheuser-Busch totally shit the bed with this Dylan Mulvaney thing.
00:07:24.000 I'm not, though, for destroying an American and iconic company for something like this.
00:07:30.000 Trust me. The memes have been so good.
00:07:31.000 I'm sitting there chopping it up.
00:07:33.000 But when I actually look into it, I'm not going to blame the whole company for the inaction or the stupidity of someone in a marketing campaign that got woke as hell.
00:07:42.000 The company itself doesn't participate in the same leftist nonsense as the other big conglomerates.
00:07:49.000 Frankly, they don't participate in the same woke garbage that other people in the beer industry actually do, who are significantly worse offenders when I looked into it.
00:08:00.000 But if they do this again...
00:08:03.000 Then it's on them.
00:08:04.000 Then screw them.
00:08:05.000 But listen, one of the things we have to do, I like calling balls and strikes, and I love going after people when they screw up, but I think sometimes we do have the tendency of, like, shooting first and aiming second, not looking into the details, figuring it out.
00:08:20.000 I get that, guys. It's easy.
00:08:22.000 I've complained about that on this show before, which is when we do the, hey, we got you, and, you know, Wuhan lab leak theory, COVID, vaccines, whatever.
00:08:29.000 It's like, two years later, we're proven right, and we dunk on them online, but they still won.
00:08:33.000 This is like the opposite of that.
00:08:35.000 This is one like, we're dunking on them now, but when you actually look into it, they'd be one of the more conservative-leaning companies in America.
00:08:43.000 So... They've been put on notice.
00:08:46.000 I'm leaving them alone.
00:08:47.000 I think you should probably do the same.
00:08:49.000 If they do it again, they've been warned.
00:08:52.000 But in the grand scheme of things, man, Anheuser-Busch, a lot less woke than the rest of corporate America.
00:08:58.000 So I don't know that we want to kill the guys that are the least of the offenders than going after the guys that are worst of the offenders like the people I read on that list earlier.
00:09:09.000 Guys, in other news, Biden's blunders are getting worse and worse.
00:09:14.000 Joe Biden is in Ireland right now, and the White House has a new handler for him.
00:09:21.000 Yes, none other than Hunter Biden.
00:09:25.000 Here's senile old Joe, completely confused by a simple question from a kid, asking...
00:09:34.000 What is the key to success?
00:09:36.000 Now, I'm not sure that Joe Biden knows, and if he does, it probably has to do with taking advantage of your public office and selling access and influence, because it doesn't seem like he's done anything else, and I'm not aware of any successes that the Biden family has had outside of that sphere, but they have done that very well to The dismay of many Americans to the expense of many Americans in that I believe it's influencing their policy in China and elsewhere around the world.
00:10:06.000 But, you know, they won't ask those questions because they're Democrats.
00:10:10.000 The former crackhead son apparently has a sharper mind than Joe and has to step in to help.
00:10:18.000 Watch this clip. What's your question?
00:10:25.000 What's the top what?
00:10:29.000 What's the top acceptance of success?
00:10:33.000 Or making sure that we don't all have COVID? What are they talking about?
00:10:38.000 It's a success.
00:10:39.000 What's the key to success?
00:10:43.000 What's the key to success?
00:10:44.000 You know what I found out the key to success is?
00:10:47.000 And I'm not sure I'm the best guy to explain.
00:10:50.000 The key of success is, whenever you disagree with someone, it's okay to question their judgment, whether they're right or wrong.
00:11:00.000 But it's never okay to question their motive.
00:11:06.000 Seems convenient that Joe wouldn't want people questioning their motive.
00:11:09.000 Especially with the billions invested into Hunter and the no-show jobs and the ties to Russia, Ukraine and oligarchs and child and human trafficking and, you know, minor details.
00:11:20.000 Like the stuff that I'd be in jail for but is totally apparently acceptable on the Biden side.
00:11:24.000 Joe Biden, while in the UK, actually literally walked right by the Prime Minister.
00:11:31.000 Of the UK brushed him aside to go say hi to someone else when they're greeting because it was pretty apparent he didn't even know who it was.
00:11:41.000 The leader of one of the United States, if not the United States' greatest ally.
00:11:49.000 He didn't even know who he was.
00:11:51.000 Just like he was the help or something like that.
00:11:55.000 It's pathetic.
00:11:57.000 Joe Biden can't be the next president, guys.
00:12:00.000 Republicans are rallying around President Trump.
00:12:03.000 He's over 50% in every poll.
00:12:06.000 And the rhino hopefuls that want Ron DeSantis...
00:12:11.000 Probably don't stand a chance.
00:12:13.000 Look at the types of people who are liking Ron DeSantis these days.
00:12:18.000 There's Karl Rove.
00:12:19.000 That's a great one.
00:12:21.000 There's Paul Ryan, of course, you know.
00:12:24.000 But also, his biggest donor is a billionaire named Ken Griffin.
00:12:30.000 And let's just say he ain't one of us folks, and I understand I'm the son of a billionaire myself, but Ken Griffin just gave $300 million to Harvard.
00:12:41.000 Harvard! It's an unrestricted gift on top of the $200 million he recently gave.
00:12:47.000 So he gave a half a billion dollars.
00:12:51.000 Unrestricted. So Harvard can spend it on anything.
00:12:55.000 You know, if you're a conservative and Harvard is like the incubator for woke bullshit around the world...
00:13:03.000 Maybe you don't want to give a half a billion dollars to an organization like that.
00:13:08.000 Maybe if you were going to do it, you'd say, hey, make it towards conservatives or creating some sort of equality or something, but no, no, no.
00:13:15.000 A conservative would only give a gift like that to Harvard if they were completely A moron.
00:13:23.000 But Ken Griffin isn't dumb.
00:13:25.000 He's simply an establishment hack helping his own people.
00:13:29.000 He doesn't care about blue-collar Americans and the plight that they face.
00:13:33.000 He could care less.
00:13:35.000 He wants to be loved by the Harvard folks, guys.
00:13:39.000 That's Ron DeSantis' biggest donor.
00:13:43.000 I mean, think about that.
00:13:44.000 Griffin told Politico that by supporting Ron DeSantis, he hopes to blunt And I quote, the populist vein of the party.
00:13:54.000 You want to blunt the populist vein?
00:13:56.000 Like, the populist vein that represents the hard-working men and women of the MAGA movement?
00:14:02.000 You want to blunt that to go back to the elites?
00:14:06.000 Of course. That's why the billionaire class is loving Ron DeSantis, because they want a president at response to them.
00:14:13.000 They want a president that needs them and their money.
00:14:17.000 They want that control, and they want to destroy the MAGA movement.
00:14:23.000 And since DeSantis has been slipping, whether it's the flip-flop on Ukraine where he tried taking, like, Trump-lite approach to it, and apparently his donors or Karl Rove or Paul Ryan smacked him around a little bit and demanded he change his mind two days later after he spoke to Tucker Carlson, now they've resorted to lying.
00:14:42.000 President Trump's interview with Tucker Carlson this week is one of the best interviews in a long time.
00:14:49.000 Watch this deep moment where the real threat to our civilization is discussed.
00:14:55.000 Check it out. When I listen to people talk about global warming, that the ocean will rise in the next 300 years by one-eighth of an inch, and they talk about this is our problem.
00:15:10.000 Our big problem is nuclear warming.
00:15:12.000 Nobody even talks about it.
00:15:14.000 The environmentalists talk about all this nonsense in many cases.
00:15:18.000 Look, I'm an environmentalist also, I guess, in my own way, because I've done a good job with the environment.
00:15:25.000 Nobody talks about nuclear.
00:15:27.000 The problem, the problem we have, the biggest problem we have in the whole world, it's not global warming.
00:15:34.000 It's nuclear warming. And all it takes is one madman, and you're going to have a problem the likes of which the world has never seen.
00:15:42.000 And it's only a matter of seconds.
00:15:43.000 You don't have to wait two to three hundred years for it to happen.
00:15:47.000 So what you're saying is demonstrably true.
00:15:52.000 Why is this not something our leaders talk about, or the press talks about?
00:15:58.000 Listen, Tucker said it best.
00:15:59.000 He said he's the most in tune person in America on foreign policy.
00:16:03.000 He's the only guy that gets it.
00:16:05.000 And maybe that's because he's not also owned by the military-industrial complex or the lunatics who want to go to the never-ending wars because that's their retirement plan and they're getting rich on it.
00:16:14.000 But if you read the rhino media, you'd think President Trump spent the entire interview praising Gavin Newsom.
00:16:22.000 And that's a lie.
00:16:24.000 Check it out. But he's done a terrible job with the state.
00:16:29.000 And yet, you have the paid influencers from the DeSantis campaign talking about him like he's the greatest.
00:16:37.000 It's absolutely amazing.
00:16:39.000 But guys, that's what happens when people are losing.
00:16:42.000 They lie.
00:16:44.000 They manipulate. And that's what's happening right now.
00:16:47.000 Guys, I live in Florida.
00:16:49.000 We also need to talk about DeSantis being absent during natural disasters.
00:16:55.000 I came in to Miami last night because I couldn't get into Fort Lauderdale because there is historic flooding in the streets.
00:17:04.000 My car is literally still at Fort Lauderdale Airport because I couldn't get in.
00:17:10.000 I couldn't get there to be able to get my vehicle out because I'm hoping it's not underwater, but I wouldn't know because one of the major airports of America is shut down.
00:17:19.000 And where's Ron DeSantis?
00:17:21.000 Ron DeSantis is in Ohio instead of Fort Lauderdale amid the drastic flooding, okay?
00:17:28.000 He had two events there today.
00:17:30.000 Guess where he's gonna be tomorrow?
00:17:33.000 He is going to be at Liberty University.
00:17:35.000 Now, if you're in Ohio, okay, and you do one event and there's flooding, I get it, but it happened yesterday and he's still in Ohio.
00:17:43.000 Guess what? Leaders lead.
00:17:46.000 If you have flooding in your state, I understand your ambition and the people who want to make a lot of money who are pushing you to run for president, but leaders lead.
00:17:54.000 You get your ass on a plane and you come back and you deal with the issues, but no.
00:18:00.000 He did the first event in Ohio.
00:18:02.000 He's doing the second event in Ohio.
00:18:04.000 And tomorrow he's going to Liberty University, nowhere near Florida.
00:18:09.000 He was elected five months ago.
00:18:13.000 Is this what it's going to be like in Florida for the next two years?
00:18:17.000 Is he just going to be absent because he's running for president and he's going to put the well-being of the people of Florida on the back burner?
00:18:26.000 I don't know. I mean, leaders lead.
00:18:28.000 They don't flee. They come back when an emergency happens.
00:18:32.000 Okay? Like, when stuff went on in Afghanistan, I'm sitting there trying to have Thanksgiving lunch with my father, and he went to go visit the troops.
00:18:40.000 He wasn't allowed to even tell us where we're going.
00:18:42.000 I showed up to Thanksgiving dinner only to be like, we're not sure where he is.
00:18:46.000 I'm like, wait a minute, you're not sure where the President of the United States is?
00:18:48.000 Because he had to fly in under the cover of darkness because it was the right thing to do to be with our troops.
00:18:55.000 What exactly is Ron DeSantis thinking?
00:18:57.000 Well, here's what the mayor of Fort Lauderdale had to say about Ron DeSantis.
00:19:02.000 Have you spoken with Governor DeSantis?
00:19:06.000 Governor DeSantis has not yet called.
00:19:08.000 I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm sure he'll call.
00:19:15.000 It doesn't matter. No, no, no, because he's checked out.
00:19:17.000 He's running for president.
00:19:19.000 These are the things that you don't run for governor five months ago, telling the people that you're going to serve four years, and then you're going to spend the vast majority of your term as governor on a campaign trail.
00:19:28.000 Hey, man, I get it. I've been on those trails.
00:19:31.000 But you can't do both, and you can't have it both ways.
00:19:34.000 And his advisers...
00:19:36.000 And the political elite, and the guys like Ken Griffin donating half a billion to Harvard, they really want Ron DeSantis in there, so they're going to keep funding it, and he's going to keep not being here.
00:19:49.000 Not the example we want to lead with, but again, don't worry.
00:19:52.000 Mainstream media won't cover that because they too want someone that they can control who needs them or is afraid of them, and that's what we get.
00:20:00.000 We've had the Bush dynasty, folks.
00:20:02.000 We don't need round two of it.
00:20:06.000 We've seen what that got us, and that's the Karl Roves and the Paul Ryans and the Ken Griffins.
00:20:12.000 They're getting the old rhino band back together, folks.
00:20:15.000 And that's what we're gonna be up against.
00:20:17.000 So keep watching it, because it's a real thing.
00:20:19.000 Like, again, I get it. If you're gonna go camp, I'm fine.
00:20:21.000 But, like, you come back. But, apparently, they don't think that anymore.
00:20:25.000 They've checked out. So, in the last story, before we get to internet sensation Cat Turd, Tennessee lawmakers are mocked for the antics at the state capitol.
00:20:36.000 We'll close with this bizarre story, because it's absolutely insane.
00:20:41.000 Because there's a state Democrat lawmaker named Justin Pearson, who's one of the two Tennessee state representatives who was expelled from the statehouse for storming the Capitol with a bullhorn to protest gun rights.
00:20:56.000 Now, since then he's been reinstated, which is what we always do as Republicans, right?
00:21:00.000 We actually enforce the rule, then we let them back in two minutes later, and in the meantime we've made the guy like an internet sensation.
00:21:07.000 We've made him a hero from the left.
00:21:09.000 I'm sure the leftists in Tennessee are raising tens of millions of dollars from, you know, stupid actions on the Republican parts.
00:21:18.000 But here's the interesting part of the story.
00:21:20.000 A newly surfaced video from when he was a student at Bowdoin shows him acting like a
00:21:26.000 totally different person, even in a different voice, before he apparently became a radical
00:21:34.000 left-wing activist and completely changed his image.
00:21:38.000 Check it out.
00:21:38.000 Just a jigga.
00:21:40.000 And I'm running for president of BSG. There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year.
00:21:45.000 One has to do with representation.
00:21:47.000 How can we represent all voices in a conversation?
00:21:51.000 I want to do this by partnering with organizations from the Putin Democrats to the Putin Republicans.
00:21:56.000 I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices that may be more liberal or more conservative, in order that we can reach a point of sort of the radical middle.
00:22:05.000 Seems like the NRA and gun lobbyists might win!
00:22:10.000 But oh, that was good news for us!
00:22:12.000 I don't know how long this Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last!
00:22:17.000 But oh, we have good news, folks!
00:22:21.000 We've got good news that Sunday always comes!
00:22:28.000 I mean...
00:22:34.000 Wow! Uh, that was a transition.
00:22:38.000 Like, that's a bigger transition than if he did what the rest of the Democrat Party wants to do and chopped his dick off.
00:22:43.000 Like, I've never seen a transition like that.
00:22:47.000 Like, it's hard to believe.
00:22:49.000 I'm sitting here with my team.
00:22:50.000 We're laughing. As many times as I've seen that video, I can't get over the insanity.
00:22:56.000 But this is the Democrat Party.
00:22:58.000 This is, like, you think AOC is any different?
00:23:01.000 You know, come on, we'll get an actress.
00:23:03.000 We'll do this. We'll do it.
00:23:04.000 We'll raise money off of it.
00:23:06.000 We'll do whatever it takes.
00:23:08.000 Now, he was mocked across Twitter.
00:23:10.000 Jason Whitlock even called him Martin Luther Kaepernick, which, Jason, like, that's awesome.
00:23:16.000 That's one of the great nicknames, perhaps, of all time.
00:23:19.000 Martin Luther Kaepernick.
00:23:21.000 But it's true. The guy went to Bowdoin!
00:23:24.000 Now he's all of a sudden a radical.
00:23:26.000 It's amazing.
00:23:28.000 But it's just another example of the left wing being more interested in the politics of performance instead of actually solving problems.
00:23:39.000 They'll do this. There are people that believe that this guy actually believes what he's saying as opposed to...
00:23:45.000 Whatever it takes to get to that next level.
00:23:47.000 And that's the problem we face.
00:23:50.000 For these guys, it's all a show.
00:23:51.000 It's just another act.
00:23:53.000 It's just another fundraising scheme.
00:23:55.000 And honestly, not that much different than the rhinos who pretend they're with you.
00:24:01.000 Who will do what they can, but then...
00:24:04.000 You start seeing the signs and you start realizing maybe they're not with you at all.
00:24:09.000 Maybe it's just an act.
00:24:11.000 And that's the difference, folks.
00:24:12.000 That's the difference with Donald Trump.
00:24:14.000 He's the one guy that doesn't need this shit.
00:24:16.000 He didn't need the headache.
00:24:18.000 It would have been a lot easier.
00:24:19.000 But he's the only guy that can get in there and burn it to the ground because that's where we need to go.
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00:27:09.000 And with that, I want to bring on internet and Twitter sensation Cat Turd.
00:27:15.000 What's happening, man? How you doing?
00:27:18.000 Hey, hey, hey. What's going on?
00:27:20.000 I'm doing well, man.
00:27:22.000 I'm doing well. So this is a first for the show.
00:27:24.000 I've not done sort of the faceless interview, but, you know, I understand.
00:27:30.000 Given the side that you take, and honestly, how effective you've been at triggering the left, like, I totally understand why it's important to stay anonymous.
00:27:40.000 So what do you think about some of that?
00:27:43.000 Well, you know, I got on social media four and a half years ago.
00:27:47.000 Never been on social media before.
00:27:49.000 And picked out the weirdest name, Cat Turr.
00:27:52.000 Never thought I'd get ten followers.
00:27:54.000 And I really don't care about being anonymous as much as people think.
00:27:58.000 I just think it's kind of funny now.
00:28:00.000 It drives them crazy. It doesn't matter to me if people really know who I am.
00:28:03.000 It never has. But the more I do it, I think the funnier it is.
00:28:09.000 And the more it gets to them.
00:28:11.000 Dude, like I said, I'm looking at the live chat, and it's just absolutely lighting up.
00:28:15.000 We love cancer. You've done something sort of amazing.
00:28:19.000 So how did it happen? Like I said, again, I do a lot on social, but I started off with a pretty good platform.
00:28:25.000 My father, we were on The Apprentice.
00:28:27.000 My father became president of the United States.
00:28:30.000 That's a pretty good place to start.
00:28:31.000 How did it happen for you that you got this incredible...
00:28:35.000 You know, what started it?
00:28:37.000 I mean, obviously, you're not afraid to push buttons, but how do you get there?
00:28:40.000 And how do you do it so quickly?
00:28:42.000 I really don't know.
00:28:43.000 But first, I want to say that we are...
00:28:45.000 America has been saved today.
00:28:47.000 I don't know if anybody knows this.
00:28:49.000 Joe Manchin went to see Zelensky.
00:28:51.000 We are saved. Oh, yeah.
00:28:52.000 There's no more open borders.
00:28:54.000 Well, he went there with...
00:28:55.000 Who's the country singer?
00:28:58.000 I don't know. He sounded like a chicken on crack.
00:29:01.000 Yeah, Paisley. I don't even know what his first name is.
00:29:03.000 What's his first name? Brad Paisley was over there.
00:29:07.000 He was the guy that was singing about the vaccines last time.
00:29:10.000 So Brad Paisley goes to Ukraine with...
00:29:15.000 What the fuck does Brad Paisley have to do with a war in Ukraine?
00:29:19.000 We're not serious people anymore.
00:29:22.000 Brad Paisley's doing that.
00:29:23.000 He's going to put on a concert. Wait, I thought it was a war zone.
00:29:26.000 I don't understand. What the hell is going on?
00:29:28.000 What's your take? What's the cat turd take on this one?
00:29:32.000 Hey, your guess is as good as me.
00:29:35.000 What kind of information do we get out that we can even believe?
00:29:37.000 I mean, do you believe Ukraine's media, Russia media, our media?
00:29:42.000 Well, by the way, listen, I don't know if I believe any of them, but I don't know that anyone...
00:29:45.000 Like, is it possible to be worse than our media?
00:29:49.000 It's not. I love it when CNN says, man, that Russia propaganda is terrible.
00:29:55.000 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm saying, man, I haven't seen...
00:30:00.000 You know, the propaganda coming out of CNN would make, like, Mao and Stalin blush, and yet, like, they pretend that they're real news, and maybe that's why you've been effective.
00:30:09.000 I mean, you do say, like, stuff that's real on there.
00:30:13.000 You're not afraid to do it, and I think you're also good about promoting other people, not just sort of...
00:30:18.000 You know, so much of the Internet stuff, you see people just stealing other people's stuff and trying to make it their own, and you've done a really good job of that, and maybe they return that favor.
00:30:26.000 But, you know, again...
00:30:27.000 How does Cat Turd become one of the biggest voices in the MAGA movement?
00:30:33.000 I have no idea.
00:30:36.000 Like I said, I've never been on social media at that time.
00:30:38.000 I was 54 years old. I didn't even know how to use social media.
00:30:41.000 I remember the first time I got on it, I was like, how do you post a picture?
00:30:44.000 So you're like borderline boomer, and yet you made it in the world of social media.
00:30:48.000 I'm impressed, man.
00:30:50.000 I'm just an old country boy down here in the South.
00:30:53.000 And somehow, I don't know, it just started and it started getting bigger.
00:30:56.000 I remember telling somebody, man, I got a thousand followers.
00:30:58.000 They're fast. And I thought that was like, you know, I couldn't believe it.
00:31:02.000 And then it just kept going and going and going.
00:31:06.000 And I have no idea.
00:31:08.000 It was just lightning in a bottle.
00:31:09.000 I mean, my side is a little different than most people's.
00:31:13.000 People just hammer...
00:31:15.000 I do a lot of political stuff. I do a lot of humor.
00:31:17.000 I do a lot of serious stuff, too.
00:31:19.000 And I don't know. It just called on.
00:31:21.000 And it didn't hurt when your father started retweeting me.
00:31:24.000 That's when it really, when President Trump retweeted me, that's when it really took off, the first time he retweeted me.
00:31:31.000 Yeah, well, and I even saw recently, I guess, you did, like, a cat turd poll.
00:31:36.000 And, like, my father put it out there.
00:31:39.000 And, by the way, it's probably more accurate than, like, the other polling out there, which is insane.
00:31:46.000 But, like, you put it out there, and, like, the left went insane that he retweeted this poll from cat turd.
00:31:52.000 They went crazy.
00:31:54.000 Yeah. I mean, look, there was 250,000 people on it.
00:31:59.000 What's more accurate, that?
00:32:01.000 And CNN, I mean, do they even call people?
00:32:03.000 And you look at the poll, and it's like 450 people.
00:32:07.000 Trump's down 80 points.
00:32:09.000 I mean, it's all a lie, every bit of it.
00:32:11.000 Yeah, CNN, they called their neighbor and their lunatic leftist aunt, and Trump has no chance.
00:32:17.000 He's got zero chance of doing anything.
00:32:21.000 So where'd you come up with the name Cat Turd?
00:32:24.000 I was on Bright Bar, and I made a...
00:32:29.000 There was Discuss.
00:32:32.000 That's where they talk to each other, and Bright Bar is called Discuss.
00:32:34.000 And I just was like, I'm going to get on social.
00:32:37.000 I'm going to finally just start talking.
00:32:38.000 I don't know how to do it.
00:32:39.000 And I just was flipping through the web, and I saw the picture of the cat, and they just said, Cat Turd.
00:32:46.000 I thought it was funny. I never thought I'd get 100 followers.
00:32:49.000 And now it's almost like...
00:32:52.000 It's become like a Homer Simpson.
00:32:53.000 It's just beyond me.
00:32:55.000 People do movies of it and this.
00:32:57.000 I sell products on my website.
00:33:00.000 There's a thousand fake cat turd sites on Amazon, all around the world.
00:33:04.000 It's ridiculous. Are you having to do a lot of defensive maneuvering protecting the cat turd brand at this point?
00:33:11.000 Because a lot of people are poaching that stuff.
00:33:14.000 I see the people calling themselves littermates.
00:33:17.000 It's sort of amazing. Yeah, we started a podcast, Jules and I, I think it's been 14 months ago, and we started with zero.
00:33:28.000 We didn't have a YouTube following or a big following, and we didn't know what the hell we were doing.
00:33:34.000 So they just kind of called themselves the Litter Mates, and we got one of the strongest chats on Rumble.
00:33:40.000 I mean, there's thousands.
00:33:43.000 No, like I said, I'm seeing it blow up.
00:33:46.000 By the way, there seems to be, and by the way, I can get behind this, cat turd for press secretary for the Trump second term.
00:33:54.000 Listen, I think this could be a huge win.
00:33:59.000 I'm good. Hey, listen, anyone's more competent than the current press secretary.
00:34:03.000 I mean, she's a bumbling idiot, but I guess that's what you get when you have Joe Biden in here.
00:34:08.000 But talk about, did you see the Maddow meltdown?
00:34:11.000 Because everyone keeps talking about the Maddow meltdown, just the fact that you put out the poll and DJT retweeted it and she went crazy.
00:34:17.000 But you're getting under the skin of like, you know, some of the biggest lunatic leftists out there.
00:34:22.000 Oh, yeah. I get doxed a thousand times a day.
00:34:25.000 I get death threats by the thousands.
00:34:28.000 It's crazy just because I just speak the truth, you know, and the truth hurts them bad.
00:34:33.000 Yeah, it's sort of amazing, because I say that a lot on the show, and who would have thought that chopping the genitals off a three-year-old would be a fundamental part of the Democrat Party platform?
00:34:48.000 And you say it, and they're like, oh my god!
00:34:50.000 I'm like, but it is!
00:34:52.000 But it is! And they keep doing this stuff, so telling the truth hurts.
00:34:57.000 I guess it's why they go after me, but I guess it's also why perhaps I've been able to build up a decent following myself.
00:35:03.000 Yeah, you've got a few. I think you've got three or four.
00:35:07.000 Yeah. But does the kids have a chance these days that go to government school?
00:35:11.000 I mean, they go to government school.
00:35:12.000 They take them when they're four years old, five years old.
00:35:14.000 They teach them, hey, the very air you breathe is poison.
00:35:18.000 Wear a mask. Hey, the earth's going to explode because of cow farts.
00:35:21.000 We're all going to die in 12 years.
00:35:23.000 Hey, we're going to separate you, critical race theory.
00:35:26.000 And, you know, the whites over here, the blacks, this, this.
00:35:28.000 And this group sucks. And this group's...
00:35:30.000 Great in this group, and they do all this, and they do this, and hey, here's a book showing BJ's when you're six years old, and we want you to read this, and then it goes on and on and on through college, and by the time they're 22 years old and they get out of college, they're government zombies.
00:35:51.000 Yeah, and beyond that, the drag queen story hour is a thing of the week.
00:35:56.000 I have five kids. Story hour is not even that big a deal.
00:35:59.000 It happens occasionally in school.
00:36:02.000 I have five kids. I've gone to a couple of them.
00:36:04.000 But when did drag queens decide to take over the entire notion of story hour?
00:36:10.000 Are you telling me that's not...
00:36:12.000 Like, a contrived thing?
00:36:14.000 You're telling me that wasn't a plan?
00:36:16.000 You know, and all the lunatics, like, who cares about drag queens?
00:36:19.000 I'm like, well, why do drag queens need an audience of young children?
00:36:23.000 Like, I don't care. Like, do your thing, but, like, you need an audience of young children?
00:36:27.000 That's where I have a serious, serious problem.
00:36:31.000 And yet, you know, like, we're supposed to say it's totally normal.
00:36:34.000 Like, what's the endgame?
00:36:36.000 I mean, I think we all know what it is, but it's sick.
00:36:40.000 Yeah, and I'm just like everyone else.
00:36:43.000 I don't know anybody that don't care what anybody does.
00:36:45.000 When you're 21, it's a free country.
00:36:46.000 I don't care if you go to a drag show every day of your life.
00:36:49.000 Who cares? But that's not what's happening.
00:36:51.000 They're going after children.
00:36:53.000 And we all see it.
00:36:54.000 And if it's not mutilating them, right?
00:36:57.000 With this and that.
00:36:58.000 And that's how they do it, Don.
00:37:03.000 They put out a book that shows BJ's pornographic material.
00:37:08.000 Give it to a six-year-old.
00:37:09.000 And the Republicans come in and say, we're not putting that in there.
00:37:11.000 And the Republicans are banning books.
00:37:13.000 Yeah, they're banning books. I mean, it's...
00:37:17.000 It's lunacy. For me, again, that one hits home.
00:37:20.000 I fought hard on this one.
00:37:21.000 When you're an adult, I'm not about putting up rules for people.
00:37:25.000 I don't care.
00:37:26.000 It's not my thing, but do what you want.
00:37:28.000 But I've got a serious problem with what's going on right now with what they're doing to their children.
00:37:34.000 I have a serious problem with what they're trying to do with these biological men in women's sports.
00:37:39.000 I've got two daughters. One happens to be a phenomenal athlete.
00:37:44.000 It's lunacy. And I've been so outspoken on this for so long.
00:37:47.000 And again, perhaps why I have a following.
00:37:49.000 It's ridiculous. Where are the rest of the Republican Party?
00:37:52.000 They don't say, like, we're all in on this issue, because there's plenty of moderate Democrats out there, but I don't know any moderate Democrat in America that's not lost their minds and isn't part of sort of the D.C. bubble that thinks that this is a good idea, and yet they continue to push it and run with it, and woke corporate America goes totally all in on it.
00:38:13.000 How do you recommend we push back?
00:38:16.000 Well, I mean, we did kind of with Bud Light, right?
00:38:19.000 They lost $6.5 billion.
00:38:21.000 And that's how you have to do it.
00:38:22.000 You have to make it so toxic for these people to do this that they just don't want to do it anymore.
00:38:27.000 Like you said, I mean, come on, I'm from the South.
00:38:32.000 Let's face it, Budweiser made all their money.
00:38:36.000 All these years, and mainly from Southern Rednecks.
00:38:39.000 That's what they drink, Budweiser.
00:38:40.000 It is. Yeah, of course.
00:38:42.000 Everybody drink Budweiser.
00:38:43.000 They drink heavies and the women drink the lights.
00:38:46.000 But, well, that was the thing. I don't know if you heard my opening monologue talking about that.
00:38:49.000 It turns out they're actually pretty conservative in terms of donations.
00:38:53.000 One person in a company can cost you $5 billion in market cap?
00:38:57.000 That's scary because everyone thinks they're stunning and brave if you post this bullshit that goes totally against your thing.
00:39:07.000 Like I said, in looking at it, it seems like no one higher up was aware of it.
00:39:12.000 They actually donate to conservatives.
00:39:14.000 But this has become pervasive.
00:39:16.000 I saw Jack Daniels.
00:39:18.000 Had a drag queen ad last week.
00:39:21.000 Nike, like Dylan Mulvaney is like the most sponsored human being in the world for female brands.
00:39:27.000 And I'm like, like where, Cat Turd, where are the feminists?
00:39:31.000 Where are the women that went to soccer games for their children for decades watching, you know, a triple header of t-ball painfully?
00:39:41.000 Where are they speaking out about this issue?
00:39:44.000 It's so anti-women.
00:39:45.000 There's nothing I can think of more anti-women as a grown man swimmer that's 6'7".
00:39:51.000 I mean, as soon as he jumps in the pool, he's halfway across the pool and then he beats these people and it's just cheating and everybody knows it.
00:39:58.000 And when it stops, it's kind of like when COVID stopped, when everybody stopped participating in it and everybody stopped wearing masks, everybody went back to work, is when these people get booed everywhere they go and the women are starting to fight back.
00:40:10.000 And they should. I'm seeing someone talk about Riley Gaines.
00:40:12.000 She's done that. And then she can get attacked by trans activists.
00:40:16.000 That's what's going to happen.
00:40:17.000 The school leaders, well, she provoked it.
00:40:19.000 There's always an excuse for these people.
00:40:21.000 There's no accountability.
00:40:23.000 And yet, Riley Gaines, what's interesting is they had an exact tie with the dude, Leah Thomas.
00:40:29.000 An exact tie, to the hundredth of a second.
00:40:31.000 And they're like, yeah, we're just giving the...
00:40:34.000 The trophy to the man, not the woman who spent her entire life trying to be good at women's sports, but the person who started participating in women's sports a couple weeks before when they realized they weren't going to make it as a man, which is fucking insane.
00:40:48.000 And yet, think about it.
00:40:49.000 If it's a tie, give it to the woman who's been doing it, not the dude.
00:40:52.000 But no, no, no. You couldn't do that because that's not woke.
00:40:55.000 So, you know, I hope that we wake up like women in America.
00:40:59.000 I hope we actually get the feminists.
00:41:00.000 I think it's almost crazy that in 2023, Donald Trump Jr., with the shit that I post and the stuff that I say, like, I'm actually a leading feminist.
00:41:12.000 Fighting for this stuff. You're a feminist with a beard.
00:41:15.000 I'm a feminist with a beard.
00:41:17.000 You can be a dude without a thing and that's okay too.
00:41:23.000 So I guess why can't I be a feminist with a beard?
00:41:26.000 They have no chance.
00:41:28.000 They're in their sport, and they train.
00:41:30.000 They get up. They don't party when everybody's partying.
00:41:33.000 They spend their whole lives training for this one thing.
00:41:36.000 And then they get up there, and they're going, hey, who am I fighting today?
00:41:39.000 Oh, Mike Tyson in a wig.
00:41:40.000 How do you like that? Yeah.
00:41:43.000 And there's people that are like, that's totally fine.
00:41:45.000 Like, you know, I mean, the fighting thing, you had that fighter that literally fractured the skull of a female-woman MMA fighter, and it's like, it's okay, because they said so.
00:41:55.000 Who wants to win? Who wants to win like that?
00:41:57.000 I don't want to win like that.
00:41:58.000 No, yeah, that's what I don't understand.
00:42:00.000 I mean, like, what's...
00:42:02.000 Like, it's like the biggest asterisk in the history of, like, sports.
00:42:06.000 And yet, the real problem is, like, how long it's become so...
00:42:10.000 I say that being trans in 2023 is, like, the most privileged position you can be in.
00:42:18.000 Like, you can do no wrong. You don't have to play by any rules.
00:42:21.000 What rights are they fighting for?
00:42:23.000 They don't want equality.
00:42:25.000 They want much more than that, which is sort of...
00:42:28.000 And yet, you know, no one's going to Riley Gaines to give her a beer commercial, even though she probably deserves it.
00:42:34.000 Has Biden claimed to be Irish yet?
00:42:38.000 Because no matter where he goes, he claims to be that, you know?
00:42:41.000 Yeah, well, he walked right by the Prime Minister of Britain today.
00:42:44.000 He didn't even know who it was.
00:42:46.000 And, you know, he's taking direction from, you know, Crackhead Hunter, which is sort of impressive.
00:42:52.000 I think they renamed it Crack Force One since he's been on it.
00:42:58.000 I wouldn't be surprised.
00:43:00.000 I'm sure they're having a lot of fun on the plane.
00:43:02.000 There's no telling what he's doing in the bathroom with Crack Force One right now, I'll tell you.
00:43:05.000 100%. So I want to ask you about something.
00:43:08.000 You recently tweeted, and I quote, no matter how much money they throw at me, I'll never abandon President Trump.
00:43:15.000 Can you explain what's going on behind the scenes?
00:43:18.000 No, because I see it as someone who's big online, as someone who's helped sort of nurture and curate a bunch of sort of what were MAGA influencers.
00:43:28.000 What's going on there? Well, there's a lot of money thrown behind the scenes for everything, for me to just say something or mention a product or to maybe support this person and that person.
00:43:38.000 There's a lot of money.
00:43:39.000 I've never taken a dime, and it's hard for me.
00:43:42.000 I don't have a lot of money, and I have been making some since this, but it's hard to turn down money when people say, hey, just retweet this opinion, and I'll give you $15,000.
00:43:56.000 And I'm just like, man, I could use that.
00:43:59.000 That's half a tractor.
00:44:00.000 I have a horse ranch.
00:44:03.000 But there's one thing I don't do, and I just want my opinions to be my opinions.
00:44:10.000 So I don't want to be influenced by outsiders.
00:44:13.000 Look, I love Trump.
00:44:14.000 There would be no cat turd without Trump.
00:44:16.000 I've built my whole brand.
00:44:19.000 Off Donald J. Trump, you know, the first outsider that ever came in and won the presidency.
00:44:23.000 And I'm always going to support him.
00:44:25.000 I don't understand these people.
00:44:27.000 That abandoned him.
00:44:28.000 And you know a lot of them are just getting paid.
00:44:30.000 We know who they are out there now.
00:44:32.000 They're just like, oh, Ron DeSantis' team is going to pay you some money.
00:44:34.000 You're going to be for him. And then who else is going to be there eight years from now?
00:44:39.000 You'll just switch to there.
00:44:43.000 Consistency makes people trust you.
00:44:46.000 And you can't just...
00:44:47.000 I'm never going to sell out.
00:44:49.000 My political views are not for sale to the highest bidder or the lowest bidder.
00:44:54.000 I'm just not going to do it. Well, yeah, I think that's so important.
00:44:57.000 So I assume a lot of people have sort of offered you money to be able to, you know, push another candidate or turn on Trump because I've seen that with so many.
00:45:05.000 Everything under the sun you can imagine for the last two years, people throw money at me.
00:45:10.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I've seen that myself.
00:45:13.000 A lot of the guys, and again, I mean, there was no sort of political influence or class on the Republican side, certainly not on social or whatever sort of before Trump, and Trump created a lot of those guys.
00:45:23.000 I helped nurture a lot of those guys, and then, you know, you could see Trump, Trump, positive, positive, and then one day it's just flipped.
00:45:28.000 DeSantis is the way, and I'm like, oh my God, they're on the payroll, and they flipped so quickly.
00:45:32.000 So it's interesting that, you know, cat turd, Actually has conviction.
00:45:37.000 Cat turd has ethics.
00:45:40.000 And unlike, you know, the biggest guy out there, anonymous, and yet you see so many of these other guys just totally, just literally whoring themselves out right now.
00:45:51.000 It is. There's a lot of people that have got big accounts that they're just whatever.
00:45:56.000 The new person is, you know.
00:45:58.000 And how can you ban Trump after everything they put him through?
00:46:03.000 All these fake investigations, the fake arrests, the fake raid.
00:46:07.000 I mean, we see what happens.
00:46:09.000 I mean, Trump is the first outsider that's ever got in there, your dad.
00:46:13.000 I'm saying Trump like I'm not talking to his son or something.
00:46:16.000 No, but by the way, I do it all the time.
00:46:18.000 They're like, it's your dad. I know, it's just easier.
00:46:20.000 It's a little different. But yeah, I mean, that's what I like perhaps about 2024 better.
00:46:26.000 You go in there first, you know, we came in as an outsider, right?
00:46:29.000 So we didn't really know anything.
00:46:31.000 And still did a pretty good job.
00:46:32.000 You still had a lot of the rhinos and the Republicans working against you.
00:46:35.000 But, like, Trump as a second-term lame duck, I think, is actually so much more powerful.
00:46:41.000 Because you don't have to worry about getting elected.
00:46:44.000 You don't care about making friends.
00:46:46.000 These guys have tried persecuting you and throwing you in jail.
00:46:49.000 You can just go in now and just...
00:46:53.000 Take it to the base.
00:46:55.000 Burn it to the ground and start over because you don't owe anyone anything.
00:47:00.000 You're not beholden to the money donors.
00:47:02.000 You can see why they're going the other way.
00:47:04.000 They want someone who jumps when they say jump and asks how high.
00:47:08.000 So I actually think...
00:47:10.000 It's more powerful for 2024.
00:47:12.000 And you also now have the sort of the working knowledge.
00:47:15.000 You've seen just how bad it is.
00:47:16.000 The Biden administration has shown you who are the bad actors who came out and all of a sudden now they're supporting Biden and the stupidity that we see going on every day.
00:47:25.000 What do you think about that one? Well, here's what I think.
00:47:29.000 You know, the swamp was a lot deeper than we all thought.
00:47:33.000 Even your dad, I'm sure.
00:47:35.000 Oh, yeah. But the Republican and Democrats up there, you know, they always say they're in a club and you ain't in it.
00:47:42.000 And that's the truth.
00:47:44.000 And what they do is they got whatever, a $4.5 trillion budget.
00:47:48.000 Sometimes the Democrats have it, sometimes Republicans.
00:47:51.000 But they all are friends up there.
00:47:53.000 Yeah. And they all split that money.
00:47:55.000 And here comes an outsider.
00:47:57.000 Who's not going to split that money with all their buddies and their donors and stuff.
00:48:00.000 And you see what happens, everybody, when a true outsider comes in.
00:48:05.000 Look at the investigation.
00:48:06.000 They're going to destroy you.
00:48:08.000 They're going to try to destroy your family, all your friends, all your lawyers, everybody you know, because this is a message to anybody else that wants to come from the outside and go to D.C. to change things up.
00:48:19.000 This is a message for all future people for 50 years.
00:48:22.000 They're doing to Trump. By the way, I think that's like, you know, again, Cat Turd being one of the more astute political minds out there.
00:48:30.000 I mean, that's right. They are making sure, you know, Elon Musk wasn't born in America, so maybe he can't run for president.
00:48:36.000 But someone like that who's done it on the outside actually understands how it works isn't just sort of a bureaucrat politician who's going to the next step.
00:48:45.000 Like, they're trying to make sure that anyone that would be like Trump Who doesn't need the money, doesn't need the notoriety or the fame, doesn't care about the power.
00:48:55.000 Anyone like Trump, they want to make sure there's so much disincentive for them to ever even think about running for politics that they keep a monopoly on that power and the money that they wouldn't be able to make anywhere else.
00:49:08.000 Because let's just face it, so many of these people are just not all that impressive, but they're good at being vicious, right?
00:49:13.000 It's like Anthony Fauci.
00:49:15.000 He was never a great doctor or the best doctor.
00:49:17.000 He was a better bureaucrat.
00:49:19.000 He figured out how to snake someone else near him.
00:49:22.000 He got himself on the cover of a magazine, took credit for good, probably pushed off credit for bad on other people, and he played that game, and I hate to call it a game, but that's the reality of what it is over there, better than others.
00:49:35.000 He was never the best medical mind.
00:49:38.000 That's ludicrous, given his...
00:49:40.000 Total track record of failure over decades.
00:49:42.000 So they want to make sure that they keep that system all to themselves.
00:49:48.000 And I think this is not so much even about Trump as it is preventing the next Trump from even thinking about maybe entering the game or putting their hat in the ring.
00:49:58.000 They will destroy you, and they've done everything they can.
00:50:01.000 And man, to abandon your dad right now, it never was in my cards.
00:50:07.000 And I live in Florida, and I pushed hard for DeSantis to be our governor.
00:50:12.000 You think I wanted any of these other people to be governor?
00:50:15.000 These crazy Democrats?
00:50:17.000 Charlie Chris, who doesn't even know what party he's in half the time?
00:50:20.000 He flips back and forth.
00:50:23.000 Look, a lot of us push hard for him to be the governor.
00:50:27.000 This is not the presence race. This is our governor.
00:50:29.000 You live in Florida. I live in Florida.
00:50:31.000 But he owes us four more years.
00:50:34.000 Period. Stay here.
00:50:36.000 You're young. Do your time.
00:50:37.000 And then when your time comes, everybody will get behind you then, but not now.
00:50:41.000 Yeah, when you're just sort of following the establishment and the donor class, like, that's a little scary, because that's the thing.
00:50:47.000 You know, up until like six weeks ago, hey, I get it.
00:50:49.000 They had their paid influencers going after Trump for a while, and then Trump bites back, and then they say, oh, Trump's attacking him randomly.
00:50:55.000 I'm like, there's nothing random about it.
00:50:56.000 Like, it's been going on for months, and they're just doing it, you know, covertly.
00:51:00.000 They're paying people like yourself to flip sides and say those things.
00:51:03.000 I get that. But then you do see, you're right.
00:51:06.000 I mean, five months ago, that was when the election happened, and now...
00:51:10.000 You know, he's in Ohio and Fort Lauderdale's seeing historic flooding, like of hurricane proportions.
00:51:15.000 Like I said, I had to fly back into Miami last night.
00:51:18.000 I got in at like 10.30 at night.
00:51:20.000 I couldn't get into Fort Lauderdale Airport.
00:51:22.000 Fort Lauderdale Airport's one of the biggest airports in the country.
00:51:25.000 And it's shut down because it's underwater, but...
00:51:27.000 Like, DeSantis has to do two campaign events in Ohio today.
00:51:31.000 And tomorrow he's going to be, I guess, in, you know, Virginia, I guess, at, you know, Liberty University while, like, a major city is underwater.
00:51:39.000 Like, that's not the leadership that people voted for.
00:51:42.000 Like, he could have said, hey, if I'm running for president, run for president.
00:51:45.000 But if you're going to run for governor and do it under those auspices, you know, don't pull the bait and switch and just disappear.
00:51:51.000 Because guess what? Like, there's two more years of this.
00:51:55.000 You're going to run for two more years and neglect the state?
00:51:58.000 That's exactly the opposite, I think, of what the people voted for.
00:52:01.000 I put it like this on my podcast sometimes.
00:52:05.000 Think about when Trump got in there.
00:52:07.000 I mean, it was like in 2016.
00:52:09.000 I was watching the inauguration.
00:52:11.000 I was welping up. I was just like, man, we finally got somebody in there that cares about this country and not power in their wallets.
00:52:18.000 And I was so excited, and everybody was, and he just got in there.
00:52:22.000 What if in April of that year, he said, you know what?
00:52:26.000 I'm going to step down and I'm going to run for UN ambassador or something like that.
00:52:30.000 That's how the people in Florida feel right now about dissent tests.
00:52:35.000 It's just a total abandonment of us, you know?
00:52:39.000 No, I say that, you know, I actually, you know, the big complaint I've always had about the Republican Party is now sort of in the age of Trump and now the rise of sort of the populist MAGA movement.
00:52:48.000 Like, that is the Republican Party today.
00:52:50.000 But, like, we don't have much of a bench.
00:52:53.000 That's what scares me.
00:52:55.000 So I actually, in understanding this, you know, politics, like I still, I want a deeper bench because I want more than, you know, one guy who's the successor.
00:53:03.000 I do want people to be able to fight it out.
00:53:05.000 But when you see this, it's like I had great hopes for it.
00:53:07.000 And it's, you know, I watched the flip-flop on Ukraine.
00:53:10.000 I see the original sort of the Paul Ryan talking points on, like, the New York AG. Well, it's not that important.
00:53:16.000 Really, like, the weaponization of a government against their political rivals isn't that important as a conservative in America in 2023?
00:53:23.000 Like, really? Like, and then, you know, then he's gone during some of this stuff.
00:53:27.000 He got steamrolled by Disney.
00:53:29.000 You know, the influencers are saying, like, Ron Geller over on Disney, like, read the Wall Street Journal, Galar.
00:53:33.000 Like... Ron got bent over by Mickey Mouse because he's busy on a book tour.
00:53:40.000 And then he's campaigning when Fort Lauderdale's flooding.
00:53:42.000 That's a major letdown for me as someone who lives here.
00:53:46.000 And again, thought he was doing a decent job as a governor.
00:53:48.000 But it's like now my eyes are open and I keep getting sort of awakened to stuff that I probably shouldn't be awakened to.
00:53:54.000 But that's the problem.
00:53:56.000 Our whole party's that way.
00:53:58.000 We don't have the depth of bench to make sure that we can keep this movement going.
00:54:02.000 And we need to keep fighting for that.
00:54:04.000 Are you crazy? We got Nikki Haley and John Bolton?
00:54:10.000 You covered DeSantis.
00:54:12.000 I think we're sort of on the same page there.
00:54:14.000 Talk about Nikki Haley and John Bolton and the other presidential wannabes.
00:54:21.000 A lot of these people just run.
00:54:24.000 They're trying to get a VP pick.
00:54:27.000 Or they're trying to get just, you know, the next thing, whatever their deal is, a book or the next job they want or a job in the next administration.
00:54:35.000 They know they don't have a prayer.
00:54:36.000 I mean, come on. Yeah, no, they're on the book tour.
00:54:39.000 They're either on a, you know, they want to be an ambassador, maybe VP, or they're doing a book tour and they're trying to, you know, Chris Christie will jump in to try to be relevant for a little while and they'll try to throw some bombs and the media will make him this great savior because he's trying to take out Trump and he'll write a book and nothing will happen but, like... Yeah, unfortunately, that's the reality, right?
00:54:58.000 Like, everyone's playing for a second-place position, and it feels so wasteful, right?
00:55:03.000 Because you're going to have a vicious primary, you're going to spend tons and tons of money to fight the inevitable, and then you won't have money to fight the Soros-funded, radical leftist machine that's out there ballot harvesting and cheating on all those things, and that's a real problem, and that's what we do to ourselves.
00:55:20.000 Yeah, and what's the Republican Party doing about it right now?
00:55:24.000 I mean, I've said this from the beginning.
00:55:27.000 I said this a long – when they started ballot harvesting, okay, it's legal in, what, 11 states or something.
00:55:32.000 We've got to go out there and do it, too.
00:55:34.000 By the way, 100%.
00:55:35.000 And, like, let's be clear.
00:55:38.000 You can't just tweet. I want same-day voting, paper ballots, voter ID, basic comments and stuff.
00:55:45.000 Even the lunatic Marxists in Europe, they're like, you don't have those things?
00:55:49.000 I'm like, no. How do you stop cheating?
00:55:52.000 I'm about to ready to go Iraq and purple-finger it.
00:55:55.000 I'm about to go purple-finger it.
00:55:57.000 You stick your hand in the ink.
00:55:59.000 I voted. It's lunacy, but...
00:56:02.000 We can't implement the things that make sense until we get in control.
00:56:06.000 We can't do that until we win state legislatures.
00:56:08.000 And right now, we have to do that on the battlefield and on the playing field that they have established.
00:56:15.000 So they're really good at that.
00:56:16.000 They'll weaponize it. They have the full force and strength of mainstream media, of big tech, of social, of the mainstream media.
00:56:24.000 You know, saying that they're doing everything right.
00:56:26.000 There's definitely not cheating.
00:56:27.000 Like, no one believes that. It's ridiculous, but...
00:56:29.000 They're cheating like hell, and we all know it.
00:56:32.000 But we have to play the exact same game, and that's the other thing.
00:56:35.000 I want to make sure we have some of that money from...
00:56:37.000 Instead of fighting a vicious primary, like...
00:56:39.000 You know, establish that.
00:56:41.000 You know, get the guys running, you know, data and AI and trying to figure out where we need to be to be able to do that same game.
00:56:47.000 Because, you know, we go around collecting votes by saying, hey, vote for us.
00:56:51.000 And someone says, okay, sure, high five.
00:56:53.000 You know, they're like, give me your ballot.
00:56:55.000 Give me your ballot, because I want to make sure it's not raining on Election Day and that you actually show up.
00:56:59.000 And, you know, they're going to trounce us as long as they keep playing the game.
00:57:02.000 And we have to wake up to that because we are not awake to that yet, unfortunately.
00:57:06.000 We do have one superstar on the bench, though.
00:57:10.000 I do think that.
00:57:11.000 And her name's Carrie Lake.
00:57:13.000 I think, listen, Carrie is great.
00:57:14.000 She's been on the show. She's a friend.
00:57:15.000 I love her. Yeah, I'm actually in the process.
00:57:20.000 Like, I'm working with Carrie right now.
00:57:22.000 I'm publishing her book because, you know, the liberal, you know, the left has taken over corporate America.
00:57:27.000 There's not, someone wouldn't publish her book, you know, the liberal publishing houses.
00:57:32.000 So I literally started a publishing company to be able to help.
00:57:34.000 Some of these rising conservatives say what they want, not have it be whitewashed.
00:57:39.000 I know congressmen and other powerful people in the Republican movement that got upfront payments from liberal book companies to write a book, and then they get the manuscript.
00:57:48.000 They're like, here, keep your upfront.
00:57:49.000 We're just not going to publish the book.
00:57:51.000 Because they don't want anything out there that's an affront to the Democrat talking points.
00:57:58.000 The rubber stamp talking points that's out there.
00:58:00.000 So they all say, you'll build your own.
00:58:01.000 So I did that. I created Winning Team Publishing.
00:58:04.000 We're actually doing a fun one.
00:58:05.000 We're publishing a book of my father's coming out.
00:58:08.000 It's actually up for pre-sales now called Letters to Trump.
00:58:11.000 And it's literally letters over the years from all these leftist lunatics who hate Donald Trump.
00:58:17.000 You know, Alec Baldwin and Bill Clinton.
00:58:20.000 All these people, you know, Trump's the great thing, kissing his ass.
00:58:23.000 So that's coming out pretty soon.
00:58:25.000 But I'm actually publishing Carrie Lug's book as well because, you know, we need people that are willing to engage at that same level.
00:58:33.000 Yeah, I mean, we, you know, Dan Bongino is involved in this, but we have to create an alternate economy.
00:58:39.000 Yeah. And just so we can survive.
00:58:42.000 Alternate banks, alternate everything, social media.
00:58:45.000 You now have Rumble instead of YouTube.
00:58:47.000 You now have this instead of that and all these other places to go.
00:58:52.000 We've got Truth Social. So we have to do it and participate in it.
00:58:57.000 And that's how you can help people. Like, well, how can I help?
00:59:00.000 It just takes, you just have to sacrifice and hit them in the wallet.
00:59:05.000 Yep. And then support the people that are trying to tell you the truth because the mainstream media out there, and there's one thing, because I've known this for years, but there's one thing I like that your father done was expose fake news because everybody thought what they were hearing their whole lives on Good Morning America and CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, they thought that was the truth.
00:59:23.000 And it's not just the lies they tell, it's they won't tell you any of the important stuff.
00:59:28.000 They just admit it or they won't even...
00:59:29.000 Yeah, if it's important and it goes against their thing, they just don't talk about it anymore.
00:59:33.000 But you're 100% right.
00:59:34.000 Like, the parallel economy is something I'm working on a lot.
00:59:36.000 We had, you know, Michael Seifert on here two weeks ago.
00:59:39.000 He's the founder, the CEO of Public Square.
00:59:42.000 So, guys, go check out, you know, publicsq.com and check it out, because that's like a listing of all the conservative companies.
00:59:48.000 Like, they sign on and say, hey, we believe in, you know, free speech, we believe in this, we believe in that.
00:59:53.000 Like, so if you're going to spend your money, you can give it to, like, you know, woke Disney...
00:59:59.000 Or you can give it to someone who actually shares your values.
01:00:03.000 Go to publicsq.com, sign up.
01:00:06.000 And if you're a small business, go there so other patriots can find you.
01:00:10.000 So we have to do that. I'd love not to play the cancel culture game.
01:00:14.000 I'd love everyone to leave politics out of it.
01:00:16.000 I'd love them to be...
01:00:17.000 But that's not what's happening on the other side.
01:00:20.000 The other side is weaponizing that.
01:00:23.000 Woke Corporate is there, one of the sponsors of this show.
01:00:25.000 Patriot Mobile. Go check them out.
01:00:26.000 Or you can go give your money to AT&T because you're going to have a cell phone.
01:00:30.000 So you can go to Patriot Mobile and give them your money, who's going to then donate back to conservative causes, First Amendment, Second Amendment, those kinds of things, first responders.
01:00:40.000 Or you give it to AT&T, who's the parent company of the guys trying to cancel...
01:00:45.000 Like, OAN and Newsmax on cable.
01:00:47.000 Like, they want to shut down your voice.
01:00:50.000 So, you know, check out these companies.
01:00:52.000 You know, vote with your wallet in the meantime, because, you know, they are weaponizing against you.
01:00:57.000 Look at all the woke corporate guys doing their black squares and donating billions to BLM. Like, that's what we're up against.
01:01:03.000 So take your money, go to publicsq.com, and, like, give your money and put, like, someone who thinks like you, put their kids through soccer practice.
01:01:11.000 Keep those small businesses and the lifeblood of America going.
01:01:15.000 John Rich is starting his own bank.
01:01:17.000 Yeah, like, we have to do this, and I'd love not to play the game, but, like, PNC Bank, two weeks ago, canceled another business I have.
01:01:25.000 I started, you know, MXM News.
01:01:28.000 It's an app that aggregates news, so I'll show you the New York Times, and I'll show you Breitbart.
01:01:33.000 I'll show you, you know, the Daily Caller, and I'll show you, you know, something else from the left, but I'll let you decide what side you want to believe, and PNC Bank, my partner in the deal, calls me, goes, hey, we got nothing in the bank account.
01:01:44.000 I go, what do you mean? And he goes, there's nothing in there.
01:01:47.000 It's a small business, but we had an operating budget in there, and we probably had three quarters of a million dollars running and paying bills and web optimization and all this stuff for MXM News.
01:01:58.000 And we call, he goes, oh yeah, yeah, we don't want to do business with you.
01:02:01.000 Like, we're not even making news.
01:02:03.000 We're just taking news that's out there and just showing it to you.
01:02:05.000 So you can go to MXM News, check it out.
01:02:07.000 And PNC Bank, a major bank, just like...
01:02:10.000 So it's not like we're creating news or saying fake stuff.
01:02:14.000 They didn't even like the fact that, I guess, we were showing people both sides of a story and letting them decide for themselves.
01:02:20.000 Because if you don't just buy into the narrative blindly, you're a terrible human being these days.
01:02:25.000 And that's what we're up against.
01:02:26.000 So we have to be playing this game.
01:02:29.000 Yeah, they want to shout you down.
01:02:30.000 They don't care. And that's the difference between us.
01:02:32.000 I don't want everybody to be banned off social media.
01:02:35.000 I want the liberals to have free speech.
01:02:37.000 They can say what they want.
01:02:38.000 They don't bother me at all.
01:02:40.000 I think it's all funny. They try to get to you.
01:02:42.000 I just laugh at it.
01:02:44.000 But they don't want that for us.
01:02:45.000 If we have a different opinion than them, they want us shut down.
01:02:49.000 They want our banks shut down.
01:02:50.000 They want everything about our social media.
01:02:52.000 They want us to disappear. They're going to do death threats.
01:02:55.000 They're going to dox you. That's the way they work.
01:02:57.000 I mean, they're supposed to be the love and tolerant group, and we know how that is.
01:03:02.000 Yeah, they're only tolerant—and by the way, I've seen them cancel themselves.
01:03:05.000 You know, like, people who are 99% leftists, like, if you're not 100% on board, they'll cancel you.
01:03:10.000 I mean, it's—listen, we got truth, and it's been great.
01:03:13.000 I love it there. But, like, I stay on Twitter because I'm happy having that conversation.
01:03:17.000 I'll debate those issues.
01:03:19.000 I'll debate those topics.
01:03:20.000 I'll put it out there, understanding that it's, you know, 90% lib or whatever it is, and they're going to go after me.
01:03:24.000 But, like— I'm happy to do it.
01:03:26.000 They don't even want us to be able to counter anything that's there because, again, the stuff that they're pushing is insane.
01:03:34.000 They're just insane lunatics now is all I gotta say.
01:03:37.000 So, I mean, I don't even know what's next.
01:03:39.000 It just keeps going and going and going.
01:03:42.000 What's next? I don't know, but I do think maybe the extreme, they've taken it so far, whether it's Trump derangement syndrome or they're just showing their true colors finally, you know, I think it's actually waking up I think for the first time maybe in history, you know, conservatives are probably actually winning sort of the pop culture battle.
01:04:08.000 We are. Yeah, and yet we're still up against so much.
01:04:11.000 You know, the trillion dollar, you know, if you look at Google, probably the worst offender in big tech, just censoring any kind of story that's there, pushing everything down through search, you know, using leftist Wikipedia to, well, this is what, you know, they're the arbiter of truth, but there has nothing to do with truth.
01:04:28.000 You know, we're still up against so much, it's not that easy.
01:04:31.000 But I think the extreme reaction to what's going on from the other side is getting ordinary people who are, you know, busy, you know, feeding their families, trying to live their American dream, the dream, you know, what's left that hasn't been shipped over to China.
01:04:46.000 I think they're starting to wake up and understand exactly what's going on.
01:04:50.000 I think that's really important. Yeah.
01:04:54.000 Let me tell you something.
01:04:57.000 90% of this country, and it's a lot of Democrats too, and I'm telling you, at least 80, they're so sick of the woke mob shouting at them every day and screaming at them every day.
01:05:09.000 They're tired of it.
01:05:10.000 Believe me, they've had enough of this.
01:05:12.000 They're tired of listening to it.
01:05:14.000 Believe me, I live out here in the real world, and everybody's tired of it.
01:05:17.000 They don't want to hear it no more. Yeah.
01:05:19.000 So I'm actually just trying to look at some of the comments while we're talking.
01:05:22.000 And I guess, did Bank of America try shutting down your accounts?
01:05:28.000 Well, when we first started our podcast, Jules got a Bank of America account, who's my co-host.
01:05:35.000 It was our podcast, and Bank of America shut it down, called her, said, you need to come down to the bank.
01:05:41.000 She went down to the bank. Some kind of little worm boy come out there with a big grin on it.
01:05:46.000 I call him worm boy.
01:05:48.000 And he's like, well, we're shutting your account.
01:05:50.000 Well, why? We don't have to give you a reason.
01:05:53.000 Yeah. Okay, that's what they said.
01:05:56.000 And then... So they just canceled us.
01:06:00.000 And then I blew them up on Twitter, and then they started calling her.
01:06:03.000 Well, and that's what happened.
01:06:04.000 I mean, they did it to me with MXM News, right?
01:06:08.000 It's literally an app.
01:06:09.000 It's on Apple.
01:06:10.000 You can get it on Apple.
01:06:12.000 You can get it in the Google Play Store.
01:06:13.000 It's not like it hasn't been vetted, but they're just like, there didn't have to be a reason.
01:06:17.000 And I'm like, if they're doing that to me, think of what they're doing to regular people, right?
01:06:22.000 I have a pretty big platform.
01:06:24.000 I have pretty powerful friends.
01:06:27.000 I put this out there, and within a couple hours, the Speaker of the House was tweeting about how this is outrageous.
01:06:33.000 Their communications department had a rough night, but if they have the balls to do it to me, knowing I can fight back, just who won't they do it to?
01:06:43.000 Who won't they crush?
01:06:45.000 They did it to us.
01:06:46.000 Yeah, and that's why it's so important to...
01:06:49.000 Make sure we just decouple from that insanity, because, you know, again, you could be fine, and then one day, you're not, and you're out.
01:06:57.000 That's why I'm, like, Rumble, I think, has done a great job.
01:06:59.000 So, you know, for all of you guys, by the way, like, if you're watching this for the first time, like, subscribe to my Rumble channel, subscribe to Cat Turd, check it out, download the app, because, like, if I was on YouTube, I could do a great job, I could build up a big base, and I could wake up one morning, and it's gone, all for nothing.
01:07:17.000 For no reason whatsoever, just because they decide they don't want me talking anymore.
01:07:21.000 I think we lasted, I don't know if it was four or five minutes on YouTube before we got three strikes and we were out.
01:07:27.000 Yeah, I imagine I wouldn't be able to make it through my opening monologue before I was over.
01:07:33.000 I was like, they cheated in the election, one strike, COVID was a scam, second strike, masks don't work, third strike.
01:07:39.000 But that's the point, but you could have been right about, like, if you said masks don't work, well, it turns out that's true.
01:07:46.000 But if you had a million person following, you were literally deplatformed and that entire platform taken away.
01:07:53.000 And yet, six months later, it ends up being right.
01:07:55.000 If you said, of course the Wuhan lab leak theory, of course it came from there.
01:07:59.000 It didn't come from a bat three feet outside of the lab that studies the exact virus in question.
01:08:04.000 Of course it came from the lab.
01:08:06.000 You were thrown off of those platforms.
01:08:08.000 So that's the problem. We can't rely on them because they decide what's true from people who aren't honest brokers, people who aren't good actors.
01:08:17.000 They're actually bad actors.
01:08:19.000 It's just we figure it out a year later.
01:08:21.000 And it's obvious.
01:08:22.000 It's like, okay, here's where they mess with coronaviruses, right here in this lab.
01:08:29.000 And they're trying to convince you, well, there's a wet market three miles from here, and a kangaroo screwed a chipmunk, and that's where it came from.
01:08:35.000 And you're like, no, it didn't.
01:08:37.000 It came right here from the lab.
01:08:39.000 And of course it did.
01:08:41.000 It was so obvious.
01:08:43.000 It was literally always- Yeah, all of it is.
01:08:46.000 Everything's obvious when you have common sense.
01:08:48.000 And they don't care. Here's the narrative. We're going to jam it down your throat, and if you fight back, and that's the problem, and perhaps that's the scariest aspect of all of it, was that, like, Americans went along with it.
01:09:00.000 Like, so many just blindly followed the fear.
01:09:03.000 I mean, you know, I was traveling yesterday.
01:09:06.000 I mean, there are still people, like, wearing masks on planes, and you can literally still see fear in their eyes.
01:09:11.000 Like, they're broken.
01:09:14.000 You know, our allies around the world, you know, places like, I was like, okay, like, Australia's kind of like us.
01:09:20.000 Canada's like us. New Zealand, they're similar to us.
01:09:23.000 UK, like, they're further gone than we ever, and that's the track we're going down.
01:09:27.000 Total dictatorships now. Total dictatorships.
01:09:30.000 COVID did one thing, and speaking of masks, it tore the mask and let everybody look at what was what, and they knew around the world, hey, we can control people like this.
01:09:38.000 This is like global warming times a million.
01:09:42.000 Oh yeah, no. Well, each new thing, whatever that thing is, becomes like the new religion of the left.
01:09:50.000 It does. Don't do anything the government says.
01:09:54.000 The religion of the left was global warming as headed up by goddess Greta Thunberg.
01:10:02.000 The next religion became COVID with Lord Fauci.
01:10:08.000 The newest religion is Ukraine, you know, headed by, you know, high priest, you know, Zelensky.
01:10:15.000 I'm like, what? These people are insane.
01:10:17.000 Like, they can't, you know, they can't.
01:10:19.000 Now, if you believe in God, like, the traditional sense of the, you know, if you're a Christian, you know, a bunch of Christian kids can get mowed down in Nashville two weeks ago, but if it's by a tranny, like, well, that's not, that's not domestic terrorism.
01:10:32.000 Like, if it was a Christian doing that to trannies, like, it would be all over the, it would be over.
01:10:38.000 I mean, and they group every Christian in America that way.
01:10:42.000 You know, the FBI is infiltrating Catholic churches, like, looking for radicals.
01:10:48.000 Do you think they're doing that to mosques?
01:10:50.000 You think they're doing that to mosques?
01:10:52.000 Like, you know, the Catholics are radical, a concerned mother, you know, going to a PTA meeting as a domestic terrorist.
01:10:59.000 You know who's not a domestic terrorist?
01:11:01.000 Like, the trans activists that are mowing down Christian children.
01:11:04.000 Those people, you know, they're exempt from...
01:11:06.000 It's insane.
01:11:08.000 Think about what they can convince.
01:11:11.000 They've got to be laughing behind the scenes because they've convinced the left men can have babies.
01:11:18.000 Men can have periods.
01:11:20.000 The cow farts are going to destroy planet Earth.
01:11:23.000 If you can convince somebody that a man can have a baby, There's literally nothing.
01:11:27.000 You can just say, hey, everybody, we got an emergency.
01:11:30.000 You got to wear a shit-filled diaper on your head for a week.
01:11:32.000 And they're just going to go get a shit-filled diaper, put it on their head.
01:11:35.000 If you told them that it would prevent COVID, they would do it.
01:11:39.000 I know it. If you can tell them men can have a baby and they believe it, you can literally tell them anything, anything, and they'll believe it and they'll follow it.
01:11:47.000 Yeah, no, it's scary.
01:11:50.000 It's true. And it's why we've got to get our kids out of these public schools and the indoctrination camps that are going on.
01:11:56.000 They are. They're awful.
01:11:58.000 We don't have a chance otherwise.
01:12:02.000 Either through private school, if you can afford it, or home school.
01:12:05.000 But they get them when they're four or five, and by the time they're 22, I'm telling you, they walk out of there, they're just liberal zombies.
01:12:14.000 Yeah, no, it's true.
01:12:16.000 The good thing about Florida, I mean, I saw that in New York, and some of these, my kids were in really good schools and all that stuff, and you see it, and it's like, oh my, we just had to get out of there.
01:12:26.000 You know, I was talking with some people, you know, Harvard lawyers and this kind of stuff.
01:12:31.000 What happened to those schools, you're not allowed to think for yourself anymore.
01:12:36.000 You blindly follow the talking points.
01:12:38.000 You don't learn anything apparently by thinking differently or arguing the points.
01:12:43.000 You take what you're spoon-fed and you run with it.
01:12:46.000 I just don't think that's going to be a positive thing for the world.
01:12:51.000 I don't think it'll be a positive thing for humanity because I think they've proven how wrong they are on their talking points, and eventually those kind of mistakes add up, and they're going to do some serious damage, as they have over the last few years.
01:13:03.000 Well, they have to shut you up if you tell the truth, and they do it through words.
01:13:07.000 They're like, okay, that's misinformation. That's dense information.
01:13:09.000 That's hate speech, what you said.
01:13:11.000 Yeah. And then that's how they try to shut you down.
01:13:14.000 It's actual violence.
01:13:16.000 It's actual violence, Cattery.
01:13:18.000 Yeah, words are violence. Yeah.
01:13:19.000 Yeah, even me, I'm a cat turd.
01:13:21.000 I'm a Twitter shit poster.
01:13:22.000 I mean, they come after me as hard as they do, and they shut down the bank.
01:13:25.000 They come after me with everything.
01:13:28.000 You can imagine. And just because I'm sitting here telling my opinion, and I do have a right to say it, you don't have to believe in it.
01:13:37.000 Obviously, you've been doxxed and these kind of things.
01:13:40.000 They're canceling your bank account.
01:13:41.000 But what are some of the worst things that you've seen happen?
01:13:45.000 Oh, as far as...
01:13:47.000 Oh, yeah. Well, you know, they post a different fake picture of me every week, and then they love to do fake mugshots.
01:13:53.000 Like, look, he's arrested.
01:13:54.000 He's a child molester. He's a wife-beater, and he's this and that.
01:13:58.000 Hey, wait a minute. Catherine, I feel like if you were a Democrat...
01:14:03.000 You could actually go out there and be like okay with being a child molester and they'd probably leave you alone because it actually feels like they're sort of pushing this stuff at this point.
01:14:12.000 I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but they seem to be awfully quiet on the child molesters and the groomers and the other stuff that they're doing day in and day out with some of this insanity.
01:14:22.000 And yet, yes, if it was you, they'll turn it into a negative thing now because you're a conservative.
01:14:28.000 Well, there's no stopping what they'll do.
01:14:30.000 I mean, you trust the FBI. They put child porn on Sheryl Hackerson's husband's computer.
01:14:37.000 Remember that? Yeah, well, again, those were the people who labeled mothers going to PTA meetings.
01:14:44.000 I said it a little bit ago, but they labeled mothers going to PTA meetings saying, I don't want my kids being spoon-fed BLM bullshit.
01:14:51.000 Those were domestic terrorists.
01:14:53.000 You know who's not a domestic terrorist?
01:14:55.000 Like, all the people who they were watching that they let go who actually committed heinous crimes in America.
01:15:02.000 It's sad. It's scary.
01:15:03.000 It's sad. And the real problem is it's coming from the top, right?
01:15:06.000 Because, like, I see FBI agents all the time.
01:15:08.000 They come up to me and they're like, we don't know what's going on.
01:15:11.000 We can't do anything about it. But if we speak up, we'll be out.
01:15:13.000 Just like the people in the military.
01:15:14.000 Like, you know, you could be the greatest operator, fighter pilot, whatever it may be.
01:15:18.000 If you weren't going to take the vaccine, you're probably a conservative.
01:15:20.000 You're out. You have no chance of promotion.
01:15:22.000 We'll throw you out and we'll make some, you know, transgender individual an admiral because that's woke and cool.
01:15:28.000 Yeah. Let's make them an admiral.
01:15:31.000 What could go wrong?
01:15:33.000 Talking about disrespecting every admiral that worked all the way from when they went to the academy when they were 18 years old and spent their whole life.
01:15:42.000 You're talking about just a slap in the face.
01:15:46.000 Yeah, no, it's scary.
01:15:48.000 And then, yeah, you have the Patriots on here.
01:15:50.000 You know, I had, you know, General Tata on here on Thursday of last week.
01:15:58.000 And like, or I guess it was Monday.
01:16:01.000 Yeah. And like, this is a guy that led the 82nd Airborne, the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain Division.
01:16:06.000 And like, you ask him what's going on, he's like, it's lunacy.
01:16:09.000 And it's why they can't meet their recruitment standards.
01:16:12.000 Because, you know, a big part of being a patriot is actually, you know, believing in the things that you're fighting for.
01:16:17.000 But if your country stands for, you know, mutilating, you know, children's reproductive organs in the name of wokeness, like, I don't know, like, why would I go fight for that?
01:16:29.000 Yeah, the recruitment's always up when your dad's in, Reagan's in, and it's always down when Clinton's in, Obama's in, Biden's in.
01:16:37.000 It always goes like that.
01:16:39.000 I spent my 18th birthday at Fort Dix, New Jersey in basic training, and I served under Reagan.
01:16:46.000 I didn't make it my career, but I am an Army vet.
01:16:51.000 And I loved it.
01:16:52.000 I had Reagan as a commander-in-chief.
01:16:54.000 How good is that? It makes you a little bit more proud than a bumbling idiot like Joe Biden, right?
01:16:59.000 You see a guy that can't complete a sentence or walk up a flight of stairs, it's a little bit hard to be like, that's my commander-in-chief.
01:17:06.000 He's getting worse, too, if you notice.
01:17:08.000 He's so bad now, I don't even know what he's saying half the time.
01:17:12.000 I know he don't either. No, he clearly has no idea what's going on.
01:17:18.000 Nothing. And if it was Trump, remember Trump held a banister one time going down a slippery ramp, and they're like...
01:17:25.000 Yeah, with ice on it.
01:17:27.000 He's in degenerative disease.
01:17:29.000 Joe Biden, he doesn't know where he is 50% of the time.
01:17:32.000 It's not like it's a regular thing.
01:17:35.000 It's embarrassing. That's okay.
01:17:37.000 That's okay. It's embarrassing as hell.
01:17:40.000 So, Katja, you talked about sort of just being a regular guy.
01:17:44.000 What was it like just being a regular guy, but all of a sudden now having this sort of, you know, this big an influence in the space?
01:17:52.000 You're obviously a patriot.
01:17:53.000 You're fighting for the things you believe in, but you sort of created that out of nothing.
01:17:56.000 What's that like? It's nuts.
01:17:59.000 Just sitting here talking to you.
01:18:00.000 I've seen you on TV. I supported your dad.
01:18:03.000 I'll be on the Trump train until it stops.
01:18:06.000 Just trust me on that. Y'all have my full support and always will.
01:18:10.000 I appreciate it. But it's crazy.
01:18:13.000 And we start a podcast.
01:18:15.000 And my first guest the first day is James O'Keefe.
01:18:18.000 And I'm talking to General Flynn, and I'm on Devin Nunez's podcast, and I'm talking to Cash Patel.
01:18:24.000 And I cannot tell you how nuts it is.
01:18:28.000 I'm just on Bo Snardley, you know, Rush Limbaugh, who I was a...
01:18:33.000 Yeah, he's the greatest.
01:18:34.000 These are people I've seen on TV my whole life and to sit here and to be able to just rap with you for an hour.
01:18:39.000 It's amazing.
01:18:40.000 It's a privilege. I love it.
01:18:43.000 It's awesome. Well, listen, we love it.
01:18:45.000 And hey, listen, a key tenant of this show is just trying to make people unafraid to speak up.
01:18:51.000 So to see someone like you, you know, just unafraid, goes and does it, and ended up successful doing it, that's a really big deal.
01:18:59.000 And we need the entire country to have sort of that level of empowerment, because I think if you do...
01:19:07.000 They can't cancel us anymore.
01:19:08.000 I mean, it all sort of goes back to the same thing.
01:19:10.000 You know, when you're afraid, and again, there's consequences to being on our side right now, but if 175 million Americans, if half the country, like, hey, you can have a strong economy, you can have businesses to cover, you can literally do everything that you need to to preserve yourself, but you need to come out of that shadow.
01:19:28.000 You cannot allow that. And they are just, they're nothing but bullies.
01:19:31.000 No. You can't let them bully you.
01:19:33.000 Don't be afraid of these people. You can do it respectfully.
01:19:36.000 No one says you have to be out there like a lunatic like me, you know, ranting and raving and doing this stuff.
01:19:40.000 But if I can get a few people a day to be like, okay, he's right, we just got to push back on this.
01:19:46.000 If I can get a few mothers to say like, you're right, it's insane to allow men to compete in women's sports and take my daughter's scholarship to college.
01:19:54.000 Like, that's insane. If we do it and we do it in volume...
01:19:59.000 We can actually win this battle because I actually think we're winning the pop culture because I think that's where people are in America.
01:20:06.000 They're just still afraid to actually say it.
01:20:09.000 Once they become unafraid, we're winning this thing big.
01:20:14.000 Yeah, well, it takes every tool in a toolbox to do a job, and everybody's a little different, you know?
01:20:19.000 Everybody can't be a hammer.
01:20:21.000 Everybody can't be the, ah, ah, ah, ah.
01:20:23.000 I mean, it takes every tool to do a job.
01:20:25.000 So some people, I do it through humor, and then I try to get a point across.
01:20:29.000 Memes, you can make people laugh.
01:20:33.000 Some people are good. Some people are the screamers and the shouters.
01:20:36.000 Some people are just balls to the wall, the hammer, and somebody's a screwdriver.
01:20:40.000 Somebody's a saw. Yeah.
01:20:42.000 I'm pretty good at being a hammer.
01:20:43.000 When you're a hammer, everything's a nail, so maybe I'm a little out.
01:20:46.000 I think you're a five-pound mini sledgehammer.
01:20:49.000 You need those, too.
01:20:50.000 They're a useful tool when you need it.
01:20:53.000 I'll leave nuance to others.
01:20:55.000 So what's that been like for your family?
01:20:57.000 Do they all know you're a cat turd?
01:20:58.000 What has that been like?
01:21:00.000 Well, everybody does.
01:21:02.000 Actually, my mom died recently, but my parents and grandparents have passed away.
01:21:08.000 I do have people in my family, and they get bothered, too.
01:21:13.000 They're not into politics like I am.
01:21:17.000 They bother them, too.
01:21:18.000 They fine them. They dox them.
01:21:20.000 Everybody gets a big kick out of it.
01:21:22.000 My father died when I was young, in my young 20s.
01:21:26.000 He was the one that would have really got a kick out of Cat Turd.
01:21:29.000 It's an amazing thing.
01:21:32.000 It's lightning in a bottle. A lot of it's just luck.
01:21:34.000 You know, it's not all skill.
01:21:35.000 It's just the right place, the right time, the right retweet, the right tweet, and it's just, you know.
01:21:42.000 It's a skill, man. There's a lot of people out there trying to do what you're doing, but you've struck a nerve.
01:21:49.000 You've gone viral. I see, you know, what you're doing.
01:21:51.000 It's like, you know, you don't often miss.
01:21:54.000 And, you know, but again, you're also willing to say the things that so many people have been made afraid to say.
01:22:01.000 I mean, I think I'm a little bit that way myself.
01:22:02.000 When people are like, you know, Do you do your own Instagram?
01:22:06.000 Do you think I could pay someone to post the shit that I post on Instagram?
01:22:09.000 They'd be worried about losing their job every day.
01:22:11.000 I just do it and go all in.
01:22:12.000 I just stopped caring a long time ago.
01:22:14.000 That makes it a little bit easier.
01:22:18.000 Just don't be scared of everybody.
01:22:20.000 You have a First Amendment right to say your opinion, and they're trying to take that away from you.
01:22:24.000 But say it. It doesn't matter.
01:22:25.000 You don't have to be right all the time.
01:22:27.000 But say it. Whatever your opinion is, you have a right to say it.
01:22:30.000 And on social media, thank God, Elon Musk took over because it's the first time in a long time I don't feel like I've got to tiptoe and reword everything and read, in fact, you know, I spellcheck myself and everything else.
01:22:42.000 But you have a right to say this.
01:22:44.000 They're trying to shout and bully you down.
01:22:47.000 They're trying to intimidate you.
01:22:49.000 They're trying to do everything they can for you just not to say your opinion.
01:22:53.000 And you're an American and you can say your opinion.
01:22:55.000 If they don't like it, tough shit.
01:22:57.000 Yeah, no, 100%.
01:22:59.000 Like, you know, and that's what they're trying to do.
01:23:01.000 And again, I think we're finally getting that.
01:23:03.000 We just need, you know, the more people that are willing to come out and start pushing back and saying it, and again, you know, vote with your wallet, you know.
01:23:11.000 That's a big deal. So how do you see 2024 playing out, right?
01:23:15.000 You said you have family that are getting, you know, getting crapped on for you being cat turd, but they're not really political.
01:23:21.000 I mean, do they see what's going on if they're not really political?
01:23:25.000 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:23:26.000 They're not political like I am, like ever live and breathe it, but they're definitely political enough to know what's going on.
01:23:32.000 Okay. But, oh, yeah.
01:23:34.000 I think Trump's going to steamroll the primaries, and it's going to be – I can't wait for the debates.
01:23:40.000 Can you? Is that going to be good or what?
01:23:42.000 I can't wait for – It's going to be hilarious.
01:23:45.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:23:47.000 I'm going to have to just live stream them because it's amazing.
01:23:53.000 Having been there, just being there for some of the great lines of the debates against Hillary and stuff like that, I was just like, oh my God.
01:24:02.000 Watching them almost throw Jeff Bush off the stage, it was just incredible.
01:24:07.000 The funniest thing your dad's ever did still to me is it was right after the, you know, grab them by the pee tape come out and everybody's like, oh, he's gone now.
01:24:17.000 He's gone. And so he said, I don't know if it was the second debate against Hillary.
01:24:20.000 And he told everybody, hey, I got some news.
01:24:23.000 I told all the press, I got some news back here about Obama's birth certificate.
01:24:27.000 And they all walked in and there's Anita Broderick, all the people that accused Bill Clinton of rape.
01:24:33.000 Oh my God. I still get a kick out of that.
01:24:36.000 Yeah, that was amazing.
01:24:39.000 Classic. Yeah, and having been there for that, I got some good stories behind the scenes I'll have to get into one day.
01:24:45.000 Please tell me someday.
01:24:47.000 But yeah, we'll have to do that.
01:24:49.000 Maybe we'll have to save that for a second, Cat Turret Podcast.
01:24:52.000 But what do you see as being the key tenets of America first?
01:25:01.000 The media, I think, gets that so wrong.
01:25:04.000 The rhinos get that so wrong.
01:25:07.000 I don't even know why it's controversial, but what are your thoughts on that as sort of coming at it from just the regular American standpoint, and why is that such a problem for so many people?
01:25:18.000 Yeah, I mean, we're just constitutionalists.
01:25:21.000 I mean, you just read the document.
01:25:23.000 You know, we believe in the free speech and the right to bear arms and on and on.
01:25:27.000 It's real simple. We're not racists.
01:25:30.000 We're not bigots. We're not hate filled.
01:25:32.000 We're not hate mongers. We just believe in and it's not even the traditional merit values, but we hold dear.
01:25:39.000 The values of...
01:25:40.000 And if we lose these, we lose free speech.
01:25:43.000 And if we lose all these things, then we're going to lose our country, and we are right now.
01:25:47.000 I mean, we have no justice.
01:25:49.000 The FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department, we got wide open borders, we got fentanyl pouring in, and we see these things happening, and we just want our country...
01:26:01.000 You know, to abide by the Constitution, limited government, and just get the hell out of the way and let us do what we do out here.
01:26:10.000 We're talented people. We know how to do things.
01:26:12.000 We turn the wrenches that provides everything, the plumbing, the electricity.
01:26:16.000 We know what we're doing out here.
01:26:18.000 Get off our backs and let us just live our lives and leave us alone.
01:26:23.000 Yeah, no, 100%.
01:26:24.000 And by the way, people seem to be really into the idea of a second Cat Turd episode, so we're going to have to do that.
01:26:30.000 But two things before we sort of wrap up.
01:26:33.000 I want to say, you tweeted the other day, we are the media now.
01:26:38.000 Expand on that a little bit, because I think it's sort of interesting.
01:26:40.000 Again, I think that Cat Turd can carry the weight of...
01:26:47.000 CNN probably does at this point with people, and I think, frankly, you have a lot more credibility, but talk about that and how it changes, because I think it's going to be an important part of the future, because I think it's been very clear that we can't go to the usual sources, even sort of the left going to the left sources and the right going to the right sources, because I think all of them have been so bastardized and sort of become so corporate.
01:27:09.000 Well, you know, Fox News to CNN all, they all have a really big billionaire people, and they hire people that are, you know, and pay them $5, $10, $20 million a year to say exactly what that billionaire wants them to say.
01:27:25.000 So it's and they all say the same things.
01:27:28.000 I mean, you can play montage after montage all across the country.
01:27:31.000 NBC affiliates say an exact same thing.
01:27:34.000 So you're not getting anything real.
01:27:36.000 So the future is citizen journalists like myself and like you having a podcast in our podcast where we at least try to we're not beholden to anybody.
01:27:45.000 Nobody's telling us what to say.
01:27:46.000 Nobody's paying my mortgage.
01:27:49.000 And so you got to get out there.
01:27:52.000 And we are the media.
01:27:54.000 And the old media is dying. Nobody believes NBC and CNN and the Washington Times and the New York Times and the Washington Post.
01:28:04.000 Nobody believes that stuff anymore.
01:28:05.000 Their ratings are in the shitter.
01:28:07.000 Nobody believes them.
01:28:08.000 They're a bunch of liars. They have an agenda.
01:28:10.000 And it's just normal people that might be a plumber over here or something that's got to just have these little podcasts and they'll get out.
01:28:16.000 And that's where you're going to have to go if you want the truth that digs into things and tries to find the truth.
01:28:21.000 I think, you know, cat turd sort of, you know, cat turd could be like the Joe the plumber.
01:28:26.000 Of the 2024 cycle.
01:28:29.000 Because you're right. I mean, you are.
01:28:30.000 It's funny. You do it in a way that is funny and humorous, just like I do on Instagram with memes.
01:28:36.000 But we're actually making points and delivering news that probably...
01:28:41.000 Wouldn't be getting to people other ways.
01:28:43.000 People wouldn't be hearing about it.
01:28:45.000 They wouldn't be getting it.
01:28:47.000 And it seems ridiculous, but that notion of a picture can say a thousand words is actually 100% accurate.
01:28:53.000 And when you do it in those stakes, you actually make the point probably just as good as anyone could.
01:28:59.000 Well, we want the truth out.
01:29:01.000 I don't want to lie or anything.
01:29:03.000 I mean, I want the truth to be out.
01:29:04.000 I look for the truth.
01:29:05.000 And I'm not a big, you know, I dog the Republican Party out just as much as the Democrats.
01:29:10.000 People, you know, look at the Wikipedia page of me that they come up with.
01:29:14.000 They have far right-wing extremist misinformation propagandists from hell.
01:29:18.000 Well, read mine.
01:29:19.000 It's just as bad. I know.
01:29:22.000 I just want to seek for the truth.
01:29:25.000 I want a truth. That's why, let's just say the new story with the FBI arresting the leaker right now.
01:29:30.000 They did it today. I have no idea what's going on.
01:29:33.000 You know why? Because I can't trust the FBI. I can't trust any of our media to know.
01:29:37.000 I don't know if that guy's a fall guy.
01:29:38.000 I don't know if he really did it.
01:29:39.000 You don't know because they lie all the time.
01:29:42.000 They all have an agenda for power.
01:29:44.000 Yeah, and I was having a conversation about this with a friend earlier, and they were like, well, it's terrible that they leaked information.
01:29:49.000 I go, maybe, but I also, six years ago, I thought it was terrible what Julian Assange did and Edward Snowden did, and yet now, looking back on it with what I know now, watching the way they went after my father and my family and the way the deep state functioned, I go... I don't know.
01:30:06.000 Maybe it's just the U.S. government's a bad actor.
01:30:08.000 I don't want to condone leaking, and I don't want to do anything that gets Americans killed.
01:30:12.000 But if we're actually in Ukraine with boots on the ground, soldiers there, and Congress isn't aware of it, and the American people aren't aware of it, and let's just not forget the fact that Russia has 6,000 nuclear missiles.
01:30:27.000 I get we've been fighting a proxy war, but I don't know.
01:30:31.000 Could this guy avert World War III? Are we on the brink of going in because...
01:30:35.000 You know, elected officials aren't telling the American public exactly what's going on.
01:30:41.000 So, you know, it's hard.
01:30:43.000 Guys, I used to think we're villains.
01:30:44.000 I'm like, I don't know, maybe they're actually heroes.
01:30:47.000 Yeah, I know. It's a little bit hard.
01:30:49.000 And having been in the room, having seen the lies, having seen what they said about me, you know, I committed treason, apparently.
01:30:57.000 I'm trying to figure it out. I understand I'm not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is, but I'm like, wait a minute.
01:31:02.000 They went after me like that.
01:31:04.000 I'm like... I don't know.
01:31:05.000 I don't believe anything that they say anymore.
01:31:07.000 I don't trust any of these guys.
01:31:09.000 If you had a laptop doing everything on Hunter Biden's laptop, I mean, it's right there.
01:31:16.000 I mean, the pictures are there.
01:31:18.000 Yeah. You would be under the jail right now.
01:31:21.000 They would make a special basement thing for you right now.
01:31:24.000 Oh yeah, I'd be a gimmo.
01:31:26.000 It's too tiered. And by the way, I deserve it.
01:31:28.000 I deserve it.
01:31:29.000 But he's immune from that.
01:31:31.000 So, you know, it's crazy.
01:31:33.000 So that's what it is. It's like all these things I would have thought I'd be really against or hate.
01:31:37.000 Like, I'm like, I don't know. Maybe he's doing a good thing, because I don't want to be in a world war.
01:31:42.000 Trump, the guy that was going to start World War III, is the only guy de-escalating, and is probably the only guy competent enough to actually be able to get us out of these things.
01:31:51.000 And they did it under Biden, because they saw that weakness.
01:31:53.000 And that's a scary place to be.
01:31:57.000 It is. And we're going to have to get him back in in 2024.
01:32:02.000 And his foreign policy, which everybody thought was going to be weak, was probably as strong as suit.
01:32:07.000 Oh, yeah. Listen, Tucker said that the other night.
01:32:09.000 Tucker said, listen, Trump's the most on-point guy in foreign policy in Washington, D.C. All the experts are full of shit.
01:32:15.000 They don't know anything. They get their expert status, and then they go to their cocktail parties and talk about how great they are, and no one actually gets anything done.
01:32:24.000 Trump's the only guy that actually got it done.
01:32:27.000 They do. You know what they really hate the Republican Party hate about Trump?
01:32:31.000 He made them work. They're not used to going to work.
01:32:34.000 The Congress, they have their little six weeks and they take off eight weeks.
01:32:39.000 And they're used to being the minority party and they'll sign a few bills here.
01:32:43.000 He comes from a business background.
01:32:47.000 And I'm out here in the real world working and everybody I know, every boss I've ever had, every owner of a company, they talk just like your dad.
01:32:54.000 They don't talk like Mitch McConnell.
01:32:55.000 They don't talk like Mike They don't talk like Mitt Romney.
01:32:59.000 They talk exactly like your dad and they're like, oh man, I just can't handle that.
01:33:03.000 Well, you must not ever had a job because you don't even know what an ass chewing is then.
01:33:07.000 Yeah, no, it's sort of amazing.
01:33:10.000 And yeah, that's what, and the media used to, Trump, he speaks like a fourth grader.
01:33:14.000 It's like, no, maybe he just doesn't need to try to impress you.
01:33:17.000 Like, I think he's more accomplished than any of the clowns in media that were criticizing him all the time.
01:33:20.000 Like, that's pretty much without question.
01:33:24.000 And yet, you know, they're the experts and they know better.
01:33:26.000 It turns out they don't know anything. Yeah, he's a builder.
01:33:30.000 Okay, I've got to build Trump Tower.
01:33:31.000 Okay, I've got to start with this.
01:33:32.000 I've got to start with the permits.
01:33:34.000 I've got to get this. I've got to get the concrete poured.
01:33:36.000 I've got to get the rebar in.
01:33:38.000 I've got to build it, and I've got to complete it, and then I've got to do this stage, this stage.
01:33:43.000 These politicians, they've never ran anything.
01:33:45.000 They don't know how to get anything done.
01:33:47.000 All they do is suck up government taxes.
01:33:50.000 We pay their salaries.
01:33:51.000 They never even do anything.
01:33:52.000 They contribute nothing.
01:33:55.000 Yeah. And it's yet, you know, you look at D.C. and it's one of the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest zip code in the world.
01:34:00.000 You're right. They don't build anything.
01:34:02.000 They don't create anything. What they do is they peddle influence.
01:34:05.000 And, you know, they're very good at that to the expense of the American public.
01:34:09.000 They've taken, you know, your, my, everyone's American dream and shipped it to China so they can save one cent on a widget and make billions doing nothing.
01:34:17.000 It just continues.
01:34:19.000 And that's why Trump is such a threat to them.
01:34:21.000 I think. You know, they see a guy that doesn't need to be part of that social circle, a guy that's not afraid to call it out.
01:34:29.000 And that's a real threat to everything that they hold near and dear.
01:34:33.000 But most importantly, it's a real threat to the big money that they're making for doing nothing.
01:34:38.000 Yeah, I remember he never went to the correspondence dinner, you know, and boy, that was just, you have to come to the elite snubs.
01:34:45.000 We got, I mean, and I love that he snubbed people like that.
01:34:49.000 I mean, remember when Obama was in every other week, they'd have a big party with Hollywood celebrities and stars and this and that.
01:34:56.000 And it's just like, I hated that look.
01:34:59.000 Yeah. By the way, everyone's saying they want Jules on the next one with you, so we're going to have to do this again.
01:35:05.000 Bring her, man. Jules is awesome.
01:35:06.000 My co-host, unlike my old scruffy southern accent voice, she has the most wonderful voice for radio you've ever heard in your life.
01:35:14.000 She's amazing. Well, listen, we're going to have to do that, but before we go, what's your message to the Trump MAGA movement?
01:35:24.000 Like, what's so important about, we're talking about staying in the fight, not letting up, you know, and what are the stakes?
01:35:32.000 Well, the stakes are our country.
01:35:34.000 I mean, we've fallen in a hole.
01:35:36.000 And even me and conservatives are being an optimist.
01:35:40.000 It's hard to see our way out of it.
01:35:42.000 It is. So we just got to get your dad back in there.
01:35:47.000 He never gave up on you, so don't give up on him.
01:35:50.000 I mean, look what they've done to this man and your family.
01:35:53.000 I mean, be loyal, because he's loyal to you, and he's not doing it for power or money.
01:35:59.000 He's doing it because he loves this country.
01:36:02.000 Everybody else up there, 95% of them, they're not doing it for that.
01:36:06.000 You ever hear them talk about love of country?
01:36:08.000 Or do they talk about global warming?
01:36:10.000 What do they talk about?
01:36:11.000 They're talking about the religion of the day, and, you know, yeah, listen, he's the only guy that went to Washington, D.C., and came back poorer.
01:36:19.000 It's true. He's still doing pretty good, but I'm trying to figure out how these other guys that went in there broke came back being worth hundreds of millions of dollars doing nothing.
01:36:27.000 I'm still confused, but, you know, I guess...
01:36:30.000 They're the best traders in the world, aren't they, Congress?
01:36:32.000 Boy, they can play that stock market game.
01:36:34.000 I mean, they're geniuses.
01:36:36.000 I mean, Nancy Pelosi, she's the original wolf of Wall Street.
01:36:40.000 Oh, yeah. Never misses.
01:36:44.000 70% return.
01:36:45.000 I don't care what it is. Well, hey, Katur, thank you so much for doing this.
01:36:50.000 I'm watching the live chat.
01:36:51.000 It's incredible. So we're going to have to have you back on here with Jules.
01:36:55.000 We'll talk further. Listen, there's going to be no shortage of craziness to talk about, whether it be, you know, primary cycle, whether it be a general election eventually, whether it's the other things.
01:37:05.000 And I'd love to have you back. Keep doing what you're doing, guys.
01:37:07.000 Thank you so much. Cat Turd on all of his channels on social.
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