True Patriot Love - Are Kids Being Hired for Shootings in Canada？ ft. Nick Dolinski

00:00:00.000 What's really creepy about this whole thing is apparently these contracts for around $1,000, it's $1,000.

00:00:09.920 So that means you can hire someone to do a terrorist attack in Canada for less than the cost for groceries for a month.

00:00:19.300 when a 15 year old is accused of committing a crime who really pulled the trigger the adult

00:00:31.400 or the child and today starting off the crime show i have nick delinsky with me our producer

00:00:36.400 at true patriot love uh media and i wanted nick to just jump into this story the toronto story

00:00:42.740 of what went down uh yesterday yeah and the announcement by the toronto police

00:00:48.800 Yeah, good to be here, Paul.

00:00:50.000 So, yeah, so there was two arrests made or was it two or arrests were made.

00:00:55.760 So it's a 15 year old and eight year old, 18 year old, sorry.

00:00:59.560 Up to 32 charges for the shooting.

00:01:04.680 Not all the details are in, but I think what happened was there was

00:01:08.680 a shot fired at the consulate.

00:01:11.160 They took off running in a stolen car.

00:01:12.800 Their plates were removed.

00:01:14.200 They the police chased them to Don Valley.

00:01:16.760 They gave up there as a policy, and I guess they arrested them this week.

00:01:22.220 So now this is all tied to a foreign entity, correct?

00:01:27.620 I don't think that they didn't attribute the, I guess, the funder of this shooting.

00:01:35.820 But this was part of this whole Telegram online app for youth for hire ring that's going on.

00:01:45.820 yeah i think a previous shooting was tied to um by the u.s to uh to iran yeah um what's really

00:01:53.100 creepy about this whole thing is um apparently these these contracts for for around a thousand

00:01:59.660 dollars right it's a thousand bucks so that means you can hire someone to do a terrorist attack

00:02:06.700 in canada for less than what it costs for groceries for a month yeah i just don't know

00:02:12.700 how nick like you know the you know the new playground is digital i get it right so whether

00:02:18.860 on snapchat instagram gaming platforms encrypted messaging apps i get how these kids are interacting

00:02:26.220 and the level with which they're interacting right but what i don't get really is how slow

00:02:32.780 the laws of changes and changed and adapt to this right so like and how slow we're moving because

00:02:38.860 we're still having the conversation i guess this is you know good on them finding the shooters

00:02:44.140 right i think that's you know we got to pay tribute to where it's due or police responded

00:02:49.340 but now they're saying okay there's still ongoing investigations on to who and you know i started

00:02:55.660 off the monologue like who is the shooter like who is the real criminal here is it the person

00:03:01.500 paying the minor and we all know why they're using a minor right yeah you know they're using

00:03:06.300 a minor because the sentencing is lighter because they have to pay them less because they're not

00:03:11.180 developed enough to understand what they're doing they're more reckless they're more reckless so

00:03:16.060 you know i guess it it it to me opens up a whole list of questions right what is the average age

00:03:24.300 gangs first approach children so we how is this kind of being manipulated online how much money

00:03:30.380 well i think you hit it you know does it take is is a thousand the max is that what they're

00:03:36.140 offering them and quite frankly are they getting them to do it for less uh who profits financially

00:03:41.500 from these crimes so i'm trying to figure out like is it just revenge driven is that all it is

00:03:47.180 is it like is this just some uh cartel in the background uh you know again we don't seem to be

00:03:55.420 a very uh efficient and actually finding out who's recruiting them so trailing back through their

00:04:01.500 digital footprint uh to find that you know figuring out who gave the order no one takes

00:04:08.140 credit for it who paid for this shooting you know again that's the same thing uh how how do we

00:04:15.980 identify these individuals well i think it's a really good point you bring up about you know who

00:04:20.140 is the actual shooter here yeah and is it the is it the 15 year old or 18 year old that you know

00:04:26.620 drives by in a stolen car takes a shot or is it the person funding that that 18 year old um to me

00:04:33.820 to me it seems like the uh the absolutely more important question is who's paying these these

00:04:37.180 kids you know yeah absolutely and if we do find them how do we dismantle their organization and

00:04:43.740 what commitment do we have to that because they're not in this country right so we seem to

00:04:49.500 you know and i think joe uh it was interesting because joe warmington actually came up uh he

00:04:54.460 did a great article on this and uh i'm just going to paraphrase i'm just going to read off what joe

00:05:00.060 wrote but uh toronto doesn't seem to want to acknowledge two recent international terrorist

00:05:05.580 attacks while canada doesn't think donald trump is right about its leaders being nasty it's hard

00:05:11.020 to win an argument when america when the american consulate has been shot shot up twice this year

00:05:17.420 and no terror charges um you know i i would hate to to think that this is you know that this is

00:05:23.660 you know malicious negligence on hand at this part this is obviously you know to me this is just a uh

00:05:29.820 it's it's our system being um behind the you know um you know behind the loop and it making us look

00:05:38.140 bad in this scenario of course but but but no one's you know interesting nick no one's really

00:05:43.660 stepping out front you know the police chief is like he's up there saying you know i i'm doing my

00:05:48.940 job i'm catching these two underage or you know teenagers um you know we've handed it over to the

00:05:56.220 rcmp and then on the political side we're not hearing much about it so no one's stepping up

00:06:01.020 and saying okay you know we need to figure this out we need to create laws we need to figure out

00:06:06.300 uh how we deal with it but but it's not happening you know it's not it's not coming to fruition

00:06:12.540 yeah it's it's frustrating and uh with with all the news of this it's uh you know it would be much

00:06:19.740 more comforting if if we saw some action in regards to cyber crime like this yeah so do we

00:06:25.600 change the law so that's my question next so do you know this is where someone's got to step up

00:06:30.280 and say uh we need to change the youth act the criminal code uh automatic sensing sensing for

00:06:38.160 adults uh if they actually are abroad so they're not living here and it's coming from another

00:06:43.640 country are there foreign sanctions are there uh fines penalties uh you know basically is there

00:06:53.040 do we start to have uh increase our education in schools do we have now officers uh in schools

00:07:00.820 you know constantly talking about like this is where i think we got a it's a tsn turning point

00:07:07.060 for us we have to actually look at it and say okay this is now here it's happening we can't turn a

00:07:13.220 blind eye to it do we see more of it now and if we see more of it you know what is the next step

00:07:19.060 but no one wants to talk about i think that where joe is going with his article which i thought was

00:07:23.620 great was you know what we're all turning a blind eye to it hoping it's going to go away yeah but

00:07:29.300 but how does it go away nick because you know i was i wish it was interesting i'm getting ready

00:07:33.300 for this show and uh one of the uh show writers back uh stage came up to me and said hey paul

00:07:40.100 you know i was doing some research online of the number of guns and everything else

00:07:45.220 we have uh sorely underreported the number of guns in the country so our registry is is around

00:07:52.260 7 million but you know there are sources and polling and studies and polling companies that

00:07:57.460 say it's much in excess of 20 million now um so you know i went and took a look and it's it's

00:08:03.460 amazing actually what the estimated numbers of guns in the country are right now and i think

00:08:08.980 we're we're trying to pretend that doesn't happen we don't want to update registries

00:08:12.820 we have bad buyback gun laws these guns these extra guns that are they're not listed in the

00:08:19.700 registry are these illegal guns or are these just unregistered guns so these are unregistered guns

00:08:24.980 okay that they're tracking and so they did a bunch of polling um i think they they listed here on

00:08:31.620 one of the gun blog sites uh basically 20 million uh they had polling done by certain polling

00:08:38.500 companies in canada which show you know how many guns per capita we have which was way more than

00:08:44.260 our registry number so you know i know it's hard to figure out illegal guns because they're illegal

00:08:50.420 of course but quite frankly are we really really underestimating that isn't it quite frankly

00:08:55.640 you know what we thought was a country with few weapons are we are we delusional at this point

00:09:01.860 are we are we totally out to lunch with respect to the number of guns and do we just want to

00:09:06.260 pretend it's not happening because we want to pretend that this consulate's not getting shot

00:09:11.260 up we want to pretend that youth you know these youth aren't being uh given money to actually go

00:09:16.900 do it we want to pretend all these things now we're pretending we don't have a lot of guns in

00:09:21.220 our country it comes to a point where we're not seeing that anymore so that's not supported by

00:09:26.580 the actions of people right yeah oh absolutely and um no it's it is disturbing and canada just

00:09:33.620 seems to be a gun-loving country you know uh no matter what you know how however we compare to

00:09:39.860 the us we absolutely are and absolutely there needs to be a registry now where did this go away

00:09:44.900 i mean the this happened over a decade ago this this uh registry is that under harper yeah i think

00:09:51.300 it was i think it was coming out of the harper era it started and just started to slowly dissolve

00:09:57.620 now i think logistically i think we saw a huge increase the number of illegal guns into the

00:10:04.100 country you know case in point these two teenagers easy access to guns like you know they obviously

00:10:10.900 found a way to find two weapons they made those weapons went into the shooting you know they were

00:10:15.940 burning cars and committing multiple offenses and doing all this stuff they were getting access to

00:10:21.620 weapons so where are they getting access to weapons you know i know is listen i don't know

00:10:26.340 about you but i grew up uh in you know in toronto um i don't remember seeing a weapon until i was

00:10:34.500 in my 20s yeah it wasn't it wasn't commonplace right no i didn't hear about much about shootings

00:10:40.340 i'm from ottawa and ottawa you know got a shooting a year maybe yeah if if any yeah um and yeah i

00:10:47.060 mean uh but at the same time i'm hearing about shootings more and more often i'm downtown so uh

00:10:52.580 we had one a couple months ago there was uh a guest at our house heard gunshots go off near

00:10:58.500 near a festival uh nobody was hurt i don't believe but some shots went off wow um yeah and that's

00:11:04.740 that sort of leads into uh the um the salsa festival that happened uh july july 11th yeah

00:11:10.740 uh that shooting so there were two people killed this is right in the middle of the festival

00:11:15.620 and daylight just at the end of the day just brazen shooting uh four people injured um

00:11:22.180 yeah and uh also announced yesterday so two arrests have been made for that

00:11:26.740 i shouldn't say two arrested they said arrests were made and i guess more will be announced uh

00:11:30.500 fairly soon so we'll update on that yeah well and we're going to see so again if is it i guess i

00:11:35.700 asked the question is it minors how did they get access to guns right the adults that sold them

00:11:42.580 guns what who's prosecuting them you know the youth justice act you know does it need to be

00:11:49.140 updated the penalties the criminal offenses all those things like you know we can keep talking

00:11:55.940 about it but it we need some action now like let's be serious like we you know we can do show after

00:12:00.980 show great but at some point someone needs to actually step forward from a political perspective

00:12:06.260 and a policy perspective and start to outline some steps right it's just otherwise you know

00:12:12.980 we're just going to keep watching uh mayors get on tv and you know cry at crime scenes politicians

00:12:20.980 running down to crime scenes and standing up and saying out there okay great i get that you know

00:12:26.020 that's a great pr moment for you we don't need that anymore frankly we don't need you running

00:12:31.300 down to the crime scene you know yesterday in peel i don't know if you saw that uh shooting in that

00:12:36.740 car where the police you know uh came from toronto they followed the the four people in in this

00:12:43.620 mercedes up into mississauga um and then they interacted with them guns came out there was a

00:12:49.300 bunch of shooting happened one of the officers was hit uh the driver was shot killed um people

00:12:55.460 are passing out you know they're trying to figure out if it's a stolen car i don't think it turned

00:13:00.180 out to be like there's a lot you know again we got to track okay terrible incident terrible for

00:13:06.980 everyone it was if you watch the video it's awful um one of the relatives is passing out with just

00:13:12.500 shock and it's it's brutal right the whole thing is brutal work it back now right work it back where

00:13:19.060 did they get the guns where you know if it's the car is there is fine if it's not theirs where did

00:13:23.780 they steal the car like what what is happening here and i think dissecting these things the

00:13:29.140 moments of going on to crime scenes and running around doing all that stuff we got to stop that

00:13:34.340 right we don't want to see that anymore we want to see some action in dealing with the core causes

00:13:39.780 of this not only from the policing perspective because the policing perspective is only one

00:13:44.260 piece right yeah and even you know i don't know if you notice how frustrated the police chief

00:13:48.580 was yesterday i didn't notice that no oh yeah but you know what if actually you should throw

00:13:53.380 the video up because at one point he just says we we need reform well listen uh we've talked about

00:14:01.460 this before we saw for a number of years a dramatic rise in uh young offenders being apprehended with

00:14:06.580 illegal firearms in this city we do see repeatedly young people prepared to pick up firearms and

00:14:12.180 engage in incredibly violent activity that's a problem and our cops are relentless and they

00:14:17.460 They will get them, arrest them, apprehend them, and put them before the courts where they belong.

00:14:21.980 But there's other partners in the system that need to step up and do their job.

00:14:25.620 So the justice system needs to do their part.

00:14:28.860 Other agencies that support young people who find themselves in conflict of the law need to step up and do their job.

00:14:35.400 And we will keep arresting them.

00:14:36.720 But it's high time we stop the revolving door of young people and young adults being engaged in this kind of brazen activity time and time again in our public spaces.

00:14:46.460 he just goes we need reform right and he's right like you know because quite frankly

00:14:52.580 you know no one wants to address it so you know if they have these individuals that they're getting

00:14:58.600 in their use they have multiple offenses when they're picking them up it's not their first

00:15:02.720 time right they have car thefts they have shootings they have like they're not they're

00:15:06.940 not first time offenders yeah they're getting out under the criminal you know uh uh you know

00:15:12.820 The laws are so lax, bail reform is still struggling.

00:15:15.940 I know we've changed it, but we're trying to figure all that out.

00:15:19.020 We talk about numbers a lot, crime rates, things like this.

00:15:23.720 And we've talked about on the show many times about, is crime up?

00:15:27.280 Is it down?

00:15:28.000 Oh, it's up in this measure.

00:15:29.340 It's not in this metric.

00:15:31.860 It seems to me that this is kind of irrelevant, that the actual concern here is,

00:15:37.460 are the policing methods, are the investigative methods, are the prevention methods

00:15:42.020 keeping up with uh you know the the methods of crime yeah um this seems to be the the concern

00:15:49.220 i'm having here when i look at all of this it's not necessarily are you know we need more cops

00:15:53.540 in the street is is what tools are they using to prevent you know these rings on telegram how are

00:15:59.540 they preventing guns from getting in getting to people through newer means yeah yeah no i agree

00:16:06.180 Well, it's just like every industry in AI and tech and cyber, the industry is changing.

00:16:12.560 So we have to change with it.

00:16:13.840 But the laws also have to adapt and the penalties.

00:16:17.540 You know, Nick, I picked up from the West Coast and Mike's traveling.

00:16:22.000 So shout out to Mike who's doing his West Coast tour.

00:16:25.220 He was actually sending some awesome footage.

00:16:28.040 He was with Kim Bolan last night, a crime reporter and just an awesome crime reporter in Vancouver.

00:16:35.320 okay can't wait to see that yeah i was watching i was q seeing it this morning so it really great

00:16:40.440 show um but you know he was sending me it was it was interesting he was sending me fights in the

00:16:46.840 street and homeless videos as he was uh making his way to his hotel so he's sitting at stoplights

00:16:52.680 and there were fistfights going on during the daylight uh between people on the street and

00:16:57.400 then he pulled up and there was like a whole street of of homeless people um bent over on

00:17:03.080 fentanyl so you know i i i couldn't i wanted to i dug in i said mike i'm gonna take a look at you

00:17:09.960 know what are the top stories kind of on the west coast because you're out there this week

00:17:14.200 very interesting uh and scary to tell you the truth when i took a look at it

00:17:18.760 so i went into the shows and you know there's uh the top stories that i picked up from the west

00:17:25.240 coast where the rcmp and cold like cold lake and nanaimo are investigating fires okay so it looks

00:17:33.720 like it looks like there could be suspicious fires happening in some of these locations where fires

00:17:38.360 are breaking out right right so so they think these these fires were set on purpose yeah it

00:17:43.960 looks like it okay so which is crazy because like you're thinking you know i i don't know if you

00:17:49.240 followed this week but in in spokane uh in uh in the united in the us the this man was arrested

00:17:58.360 he actually uh strategically planned um to set i think it was uh 850 homes were ended up going on

00:18:07.720 fire um and it was a huge fire and he figured out wind direction and heat and then he set uh his

00:18:16.120 fire he it was arson he set it ablaze and it it's just a heartbreaking story and you know i was

00:18:22.760 watching it and i'm thinking you know are we are do we have the same thing going on and then i start

00:18:28.200 picking up these rcmp investigations of suspected arsons and the last one i got was uh two suspicious

00:18:35.960 fires in two days in duncan so there we go um now there are are these fires the nature of them uh

00:18:43.400 these arsons is this just a random attack they just wanted to you know see the world burn

00:18:50.920 yeah as they you know i hate to use that phrase but is that is that all it is it's just someone

00:18:55.080 just being completely you know uh an anarchist yeah they they started hearing about wildfires

00:19:01.320 and they go this it was a you know i was following the u.s story because i was so uh shocked by the

00:19:07.720 uh massive number of homes like you think about think about your own neighborhood for a minute

00:19:12.200 You know, I was at a dinner the other night and we were talking about it.

00:19:16.360 And I said to him, how many homes do you think are in your neighborhood?

00:19:19.320 And they're like, I don't know.

00:19:20.320 And I said, do you think there's 500?

00:19:22.400 And they're like, yeah.

00:19:23.180 And I said, well, okay, how far does the 500 go?

00:19:25.920 And it's blocks of homes.

00:19:27.400 Like this is not, 850 homes is a massive neighborhood.

00:19:31.580 Yeah, it's not a small neighborhood, right?

00:19:33.320 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:33.700 And they basically went up in flames.

00:19:36.540 You know, you think about it and people don't process it very well.

00:19:39.780 but once they set these off so they set the blaze the blaze uh similar to the hawaiian fires

00:19:45.940 they go through the telephone wires oh wow so so what happens is once these large blazes hit these

00:19:53.200 cities they get to the edge of the cities and like the homes start to burn and they start to hop

00:19:58.360 what really starts the fires quite frankly are the electrical wires so just the electrical wire is

00:20:03.980 just traveling on the poles yeah it starts zipping the fire starts zipping along the poles

00:20:09.000 and then dropping off onto the homes and start burning the so it's like a it's like a chain

00:20:14.160 reaction so the the arsonists you know their their dopamine rush there they get off on it

00:20:19.960 they actually watched kind of the whole thing evolve right it's a it's like a chain reaction

00:20:25.340 and that's the sad part you know if you um they build fire lines you know and it's interesting

00:20:31.140 i don't know if you ever seen a live fire line but when they build fire lines they they bury

00:20:36.180 under like kilometers you know they get rid of the trees they they bulldoze down and they do fire

00:20:43.300 breaks or energy breaks or fuel breaks as they call them and quite frankly the fire stops but

00:20:49.860 the fire doesn't stop because the ash uh the ashes the hot embers actually float over and what they

00:20:56.500 have to do is then they have to start spraying and bulldozing behind the fire lines try to keep it

00:21:02.180 down um but when once it hits a city you have a combination of that so things start burning and

00:21:07.700 then the winds start blowing all the ash in starting more fires but then you have the lines

00:21:12.340 burning down right and so you know this is just a just a heartbreaking um incident but when you

00:21:18.500 hear about these things and you hear about these cities that you're you're seeing fires going off

00:21:24.580 you know the danger of that right now especially in the dry season bc everything happening um and

00:21:30.420 And it's happening on a number of places in Canada right now.

00:21:33.800 So, you know, we're going to keep an eye on that.

00:21:35.560 I think it's something to watch.

00:21:38.440 The other thing I noted this week, Nick, which, you know, Mike and I always,

00:21:41.720 when we do this show, we always kind of come up with one of those crazy stories

00:21:45.920 that, you know, we never think would ever happen.

00:21:50.260 So this is an interesting, former Labatt Brewery union treasurer

00:21:53.900 sent to prison for $507,000 worth of fraud.

00:22:00.100 So this is a person.

00:22:02.640 He was the treasurer of the Quebec-Montreal Labatt Union.

00:22:10.360 He actually took money out of their accounts, union dues out of their accounts,

00:22:14.480 wrote himself checks over a period of time to the tune of $507,000,

00:22:20.920 which has actually put these 400 people in this union totally in debt.

00:22:25.440 So he destroyed the union, essentially.

00:22:27.200 He destroyed the union, went to court.

00:22:29.840 The judge has now asked him to only pay back $100,000, right, over 10 years.

00:22:37.600 And he's gotten 40-month prison term.

00:22:43.520 That seems kind of light.

00:22:45.600 So, you know, he said he had alcohol, depression, gaming.

00:22:51.800 You know, that's the normal story, you know, that everyone's got all these issues.

00:22:55.780 Set this man free.

00:22:57.200 yeah yeah so but you know you know the consequences of of this i think you know the lack of uh

00:23:04.800 destroying that union destroying the people's trust the reputation of the union um yeah you

00:23:11.360 know at the end of the day uh uh you know it's a terrible thing because quite frankly

00:23:19.840 you know he gets out does he go again like what is the rehabilitation process for this and i

00:23:25.600 you know that's where that's where i think again our legal system like he should never be able to

00:23:30.160 handle money he should never allow it to be bonded he's like where does this go like because well

00:23:35.840 you do the math here so he got 40 months so how many years is that three years yeah three and a

00:23:40.960 bit three years five hundred seven thousand he only has to pay back a hundred thousand so he's

00:23:45.680 making you know well over a hundred grand a year yeah and he you know jail yeah um but how does

00:23:51.760 but he won't do the full term right so no of course not no so say he ends up doing a little

00:23:57.360 under two years yeah right so he goes away for a little in two years you know he's you know he's

00:24:04.640 he's saying that he's lost the money spent the monies and uh you know maybe maybe not maybe he

00:24:10.400 just had fun but that was his decision right and so why why is it not the full restitution of the

00:24:16.400 full amount i don't understand i don't understand how this restitution works and how they determine

00:24:20.800 it i mean obviously you know he likely doesn't have 500 you know 507 000 in his bank account

00:24:28.080 right but uh you know maybe he will eventually maybe he will gradually i i don't understand what

00:24:34.320 the you know so did the judge make this ruling because he had spent the money this this amount

00:24:39.360 i'm i'm confused i'm very curious about what this restitution yeah how this restitution is

00:24:44.480 determined yeah it popped on the radar quite frankly when we saw it we're like oh this is

00:24:48.400 very odd one of course you know of course uh we saw the brewery and we're thinking to ourself

00:24:53.360 oh that's very interesting you know how did and then the other thing you know and this is uh

00:24:58.400 former cpa so i always say to people you know whether it's whatever association whatever

00:25:04.320 group whatever you're doing you know if you can get an audit you know have someone come in and

00:25:09.760 look at your books you know because quite frankly this happens quite a bit i always think to myself

00:25:15.680 you know these 400 uh people in the union probably thought that he was a good guy probably thought he

00:25:22.080 was doing the right thing but you hear these things all the time and it happens to large banks

00:25:26.880 yeah you know uh the the the uh calling you know slicing off a piece of the profits

00:25:34.000 you know of course yeah that's what happened all the time yeah it's very and it's happened you know

00:25:38.800 uh since i've started in that that the accounting world yeah i've seen it multiple times and it's

00:25:45.120 always basically because no one actually took the time to audit it was an entrusted person in the

00:25:50.000 organization yeah you know you got to get a third party yeah it seems that way but it also seems

00:25:55.140 like a a pretty easy way to uh bust a union oh yeah well so now they're in debt so now you got

00:26:01.800 to ask yourself what do they get out of it right like what what do they you know what do the

00:26:06.320 employees do now um and you know are they going to be able to should they keep the union because

00:26:14.300 i think i'd ask the union like what were you doing to save protect my well it's certainly a lesson

00:26:20.380 learned i mean uh um yeah obviously and nick you know the last one on the east coast i wanted to

00:26:26.300 bring up again we always seem to actually gravitate unfortunately to one of these every show um there

00:26:32.620 was a large bus on the east coast in moncton in new brunswick and it was coordinated rates starting

00:26:38.860 in april so there were two um they give them names now each of these raids have a name i actually

00:26:44.460 find it interesting you know like they're i guess project names right okay so main street raid which

00:26:49.500 is may 7th they seized 550 grams of fentanyl um and then the uh leopold belvenu drive raid um

00:27:00.620 They had another 527 grams of fentanyl.

00:27:04.620 So, you know, quite a bit of fentanyl, all told, being seized.

00:27:09.480 So they've come to a conclusion on it.

00:27:11.540 They tied them in to a major drug trafficking.

00:27:15.020 So they got one, almost a kilogram at the end of fentanyl seized,

00:27:19.720 two separate investigations, which came together

00:27:22.820 because they were interconnected and targeted.

00:27:24.880 So as they started seizing, they found that there was a ring.

00:27:28.000 And so they got into it.

00:27:30.620 And over months and months, they actually shut it down.

00:27:33.080 So good on them.

00:27:35.140 That much fentanyl, quite frankly, I think we've had this discussion,

00:27:39.100 that'll kill a city, right?

00:27:40.640 Like that's a lot of fentanyl, right?

00:27:42.060 Yeah, I guess a kilogram doesn't sound a lot for normal drugs.

00:27:46.400 But fentanyl, that's just, yeah, that could kill a lot of people.

00:27:51.460 That's just a tiny little trace of it, right?

00:27:55.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:56.300 And now where is this fentanyl coming from?

00:27:58.500 is it is it coming from outside of canada or you know from overseas or is it coming over from the

00:28:04.980 states now this it's being situated in moncton is curious as to as to where it's coming from

00:28:10.340 now they don't they don't tie this right now to a lab so this is interesting they're just talking

00:28:14.900 about it so you know we hear about these big labs in bc and all these places you know that they do

00:28:20.820 do bus and they do fentanyl so it's interesting but this seems to be more trafficking it seems

00:28:26.180 like it's arriving there and being distributed from there so when i when i dug into it um they're

00:28:31.300 not talking a lot about uh labs they're talking about uh scales packaging bundling um contraband

00:28:40.100 cigarettes so it seems like there's truckloads kind of moving into the east coast and then was

00:28:45.220 being distributed out of this monkton location fentanyl and cigarettes it's that seems quite

00:28:51.460 range to me well you know illegal well contraband cigarettes right you know come from a different

00:28:58.020 a number of places uh you know in canada but uh and metafet met amphetamines okay so you know

00:29:04.500 pharma's right so it looks like quite frankly it's a whole smorgasbord um so it's probably logistics

00:29:10.980 so you know the truck arrives you know goes to some first nations reserve gets a bunch of cigarettes

00:29:17.460 metaphetamines get made in some lab somewhere so they show up it looks like it actually looks like

00:29:23.300 this is actually a coordinate coordinated effort that has quite a bit of logistical tactical

00:29:29.300 uh programming uh bent into it so good on them the police got it wrapped up you know they did

00:29:35.220 the disclosure uh did the press conference charges laid um but you know sad that actually it does

00:29:41.860 happened and and you know when i was i did my east coast tour um and i mentioned to you you know i was

00:29:48.180 uh you know happy uh how much uh we went to saint john and i was or sorry monkton i was happy how

00:29:58.100 much the city cleaned up and was developing i was curious about that how you felt about uh the state

00:30:03.460 of the cities uh on the tour yeah yeah well you know what really good yeah really good and you

00:30:08.340 know there's a lot going on we may went to magnetic hill we stayed in the city uh very clean very

00:30:14.260 quiet um seems to be cleaned up from the last time i was there i bid on a project there over a decade

00:30:21.300 ago and when i was there it was in a rough shape yeah yeah it really was in rough you could see it

00:30:26.900 the economy was bad um you know housing was was not good not a lot of jobs but it looks like quite

00:30:33.300 frankly it's on the upturn um so i'm happy you know they're doing this work and getting these

00:30:38.020 drugs off the street uh because you know hopefully that'll help the community i i am interested in it

00:30:43.620 i am quite heartened by by this kind of stuff because i see it myself in toronto again i'm

00:30:47.620 downtown and and i also feel like in the last few years that downtown's cleaned up quite a bit um

00:30:53.780 and we we heard this coming out of calgary we heard this coming out of um was it uh ottawa

00:30:58.740 montreal all these places but what's happening here uh what's changed in the past few years

00:31:03.540 that's making uh making headway well i think light you know we might not like it quite you know and

00:31:09.940 it's interesting and i i was having this conversation with another person uh recently and

00:31:16.500 they said well what do you think it is i said i think it's because the u.s shone a light on it

00:31:20.980 i really do i think what we're starting to see is the u.s started saying like time out you know you

00:31:26.260 can't smuggle things over the border to us and so what happened was we were like oh you know someone

00:31:31.300 else is seeing who we are right i think quite frankly if we wouldn't have started talking about

00:31:35.700 it we probably would have just kept going and i think now you know even the commissions the rcmp

00:31:42.580 reports everything like they're just publicly saying you know there's three to four thousand

00:31:47.940 criminal gangs in canada there's so much fentanyl there's the logistics is this we're just kind of

00:31:53.780 saying it now so you know that's the the genesis for this show where we started with mike was really

00:31:59.380 just to start talking about it right just every week just have a conversation and say okay you

00:32:03.760 know give credit where credit's due you know make suggestions where they're we think they're needed

00:32:08.700 and quite frankly do a little reporting on what's happening yeah yeah yeah no it's uh definitely

00:32:14.440 there's been a lot more attention put on it and uh yeah obviously it's leading to good things that

00:32:19.620 things are actually done about it yeah thanks nick and you know what for those of you you know

00:32:24.460 tune in tplmedia.ca go to our slash local site you got to check it out because you're going to

00:32:32.120 also see there Mike's tour in full detail and he's going to share his thoughts and what's

00:32:39.080 happening on the west coast of Canada so stay tuned and check him out you'll love it I've

00:32:44.440 actually he's excited he's on the west coast and Nick thanks for filling in thank you all the best

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