True Patriot Love - Can Britain's New Prime Minister Fix the UK？ ft Steve Swift

00:00:00.000 but he's also said if i don't like what trump has said and we're in a we're in a situation

00:00:05.400 where the cameras are there i'll call him out i don't care i'll call him out and he is the

00:00:09.660 kind of bloke who will do that all right thanks for joining us uh i'm mike this is tpl and tpl

00:00:19.940 media.ca tpl media.ca local uh soon to be launching our debate room and think tank and

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00:00:34.240 Much like Steve and I are doing right now, he's across the pond in the UK

00:00:38.000 and always with an eye on the politics and things going on over in the UK.

00:00:43.220 He joins us today. Steve Swift, how are you, my man?

00:00:46.300 I'm very well, thank you. Very well.

00:00:49.080 Showing the colours, of course.

00:00:51.420 We did get through the semi-finals of the World Cup, I think you'll find,

00:00:55.960 which we're very proud of.

00:00:57.700 But we've had a lot of changes in politics at the moment,

00:01:03.700 two main changes from different areas of the political spectrum.

00:01:11.380 Well, first of all, you guys changed prime ministers.

00:01:15.040 If every time you got a new prime minister,

00:01:18.020 it was like the Vatican and smoke came out,

00:01:19.940 it would look like the wildfires of Canada over there.

00:01:23.500 Am I wrong?

00:01:24.460 No, we've had a lot of Prime Ministers. I think we've had seven in 10 years or something like that.

00:01:31.920 I mean, they were mainly Tory Prime Ministers, but we now have a new Labour Prime Minister,

00:01:37.520 Mr Andy Burnham, who I know politically very well because he's been the Greater Manchester Mayor

00:01:45.980 and I'm in Manchester. And we like him in this country.

00:01:52.920 Yeah, it seems like he has a certain amount of just likability among the population there.

00:01:59.500 I think here, Starmer had a hard time winning the hearts of Brits.

00:02:04.600 So, OK, here he is, what, a week into his new job now?

00:02:08.540 And what's the vibe?

00:02:12.340 The vibe is really good.

00:02:14.840 He's announced some things.

00:02:17.160 I mean, in Manchester and in Greater Manchester, he capped bus fares at £2.

00:02:23.700 So you could hop on, have a journey and hop on again within an hour.

00:02:28.600 Bus riding went up 14% when he did that.

00:02:32.140 We have trams and trains and everything else here.

00:02:34.600 We're quite a modern country.

00:02:36.880 And, you know, we have those and we have petty farthings.

00:02:39.820 So there you go, Nick.

00:02:40.340 Nick was saying, Nick said that you guys are all still pirates.

00:02:44.180 False.

00:02:45.140 Am I wrong, Nick?

00:02:46.280 False.

00:02:47.160 False. False. He hit me twice with the false.

00:02:51.920 Well, we have penny farthings, of course.

00:02:54.860 You know, we're British. Of course we do.

00:02:56.760 We still have those.

00:02:57.860 But, yeah, bus travel went up 14%.

00:03:00.240 He's now announced that in general.

00:03:03.660 There is a question of how he's going to pay for stuff.

00:03:07.080 He's making some bigger announcements next week about adult social care,

00:03:11.600 which is a massive issue in Britain.

00:03:14.500 We've not been talking about it much recently,

00:03:16.060 but how to pay for it how to make sure that you don't lose your you know if your parents want to

00:03:22.300 pass on the their house and my mother I'm an only child my mother wanted to pass on her house she

00:03:29.880 wanted an inheritance she sold her house and said it's all your son and it wasn't because it paid

00:03:35.800 for her care which was great it was didn't bother me but she would have been mortified to know that

00:03:43.560 so it's about paying for that and announcing a tax that's not going to be called a death tax

00:03:49.680 which is generally what the British newspapers do so he's announcing some bigger stuff next week

00:03:56.280 but we like him we like him we think he's to use a terrible phrase speaks human and he's good at

00:04:03.180 that at that vision thing and I think I said on this show he's like Boris Johnson but from a

00:04:09.520 different angle boris johnson was all the kind of when this country's marvelous and people felt

00:04:15.720 better after seeing him same thing with burnham he did a video recently in which he and his new

00:04:22.100 chancellor john healy great choice intelligent man just rated bar snacks in a pub and it was

00:04:29.520 wonderful to watch people like him he's got a plus 13 rating what one what was the what was

00:04:36.600 leading bar snacks scampi for for john healy it was pork scratchings do you have pork scratchings

00:04:42.840 over where you are no we've outlawed those long long ago and in fact you've now created a you've

00:04:49.880 you've committed a hate crime way to go steve you i mean it's reconstituted pink product and it's

00:04:56.200 it's got bristles on it okay so that was john healy's favorite and um although andy burnham said

00:05:03.880 anything with a Marmite flavor, or a Vegemite or anything like that flavor, twiglets, that kind of

00:05:08.680 thing. But he chose a crisp called McCoy's that are, I mean, they're crispy and ridged and a cut

00:05:18.520 above normal crisps, I would say. So that they won. But it was it was two minutes, wonderful to see.

00:05:24.440 And simple things like having the having the the packets thrown at them, and just grabbing them

00:05:30.040 out the air they were very calm together i mean compared to starmer who we wanted starmer because

00:05:36.040 we wanted somebody who was a caretaker right a bit like clement atlee after the war but starmer

00:05:41.560 got very boring very quickly for us um i think that's a lot of what it was his personality was

00:05:46.840 not there he didn't have that so do you think that uh uh burnham then is uh i'm gonna say it

00:05:53.960 the way you've said it uh do you think that he is somewhere a happy medium between uh boris johnson

00:06:01.720 and keir starmer where he has personality but he's not over the top he kind of yeah he's he's

00:06:07.880 he's a likable guy but also has a credible edge he does yeah he he's he's open and seemingly honest

00:06:19.960 but he has a learned political basis he's a political animal for instance he's an Everton

00:06:27.120 supporter and he went to Anfield Liverpool's ground and suffered a chant not suffered but

00:06:34.720 there was a chant about justice for the 96 fans who lost their lives in Hillsborough in 89 and he

00:06:41.880 was skewered by that and took it on board and you could see him saying yeah I understand and then he

00:06:48.360 did something about it. So, you know, he knows what to do. He's a political animal. It's a

00:06:55.700 bloodless coup. Um, and, and he does have gravitas, but he's got that kind of feeling that he will

00:07:04.660 tell you when he's messed up and that he'll be honest with you. Now, I think once you can

00:07:10.040 confect sincerity, you've got it won. And people might say that, but it does seem as if, as if

00:07:17.260 things don't bother him he's very open and nice and he likes new order so a lot of mancunians

00:07:22.680 were like that would you say new order you mean the band new order the band that's what i mean 0.99

00:07:28.580 oh fantastic yeah okay well yeah i'll give them that too all right and spiral carpets another

00:07:34.820 man manchester band i bet they're on the list i could go on by the way with the manchester

00:07:40.520 uh okay well this is very interesting to me because really i joked around before the show

00:07:46.600 and I said to you, so what's the deal?

00:07:49.380 Same party, new prime minister.

00:07:51.860 It sounds like you crapped your pants and changed your shirt.

00:07:54.300 What happened over there?

00:07:55.940 Kind of clear this up for me.

00:07:57.360 What do you expect to be different?

00:08:00.400 I expect that the animal spirits will be different.

00:08:04.100 So he's dealing with a huge hole in the budget.

00:08:10.380 Not much he can do.

00:08:12.020 He will raise taxes.

00:08:13.720 People want taxes on the wealthy.

00:08:15.020 he's probably more open to nationalization there's an enormous um 70 or 80 percent

00:08:23.200 in favor of nationalizing um water um and energy companies water should go first probably

00:08:31.340 and then the trains he's open to that sort of thing um so i think that people will just feel

00:08:39.940 that things are better even though there's no money in their pockets and tony blair did that

00:08:44.320 very well do you perceive let me ask you a canadian question if i may because you got me there when

00:08:50.100 you but he's also said if i don't like what trump has said and we're in a we're in a situation where

00:08:55.780 the cameras are there i'll call him out i don't care i'll call him out and he is the kind of bloke

00:09:00.420 who will do that view mark carney in the same regard with trump do you think that he's a doesn't

00:09:07.560 take guff from trump kind of guy i'm just curious how you perceive him yeah we do um i remember you

00:09:13.080 he was out he was our governor of the bank of england and you know i perceive did a really

00:09:18.600 rather good job with a very difficult remit you didn't hear many headlines he seemed like someone

00:09:24.360 who was intelligent and could and could add up and do do sums and long division in his head seemed

00:09:30.760 like that kind of bloke and we like him i think generally we like him i don't think that everybody

00:09:36.920 knows who he is but people who follow politics really rather like him and i do think that he

00:09:41.880 doesn't take any any guff but i think he plays the political game in a different way to um to burnham

00:09:48.600 i think that burnham is more open and hey i messed up sorry guys whereas he's smoother um

00:09:57.800 so i think that they're they're quite similar but their approach is different how do you think

00:10:04.520 they're going to get along what do you think happens between canada and uh the uk now with

00:10:09.400 this prime minister in place? I think this, I think this, I think that, that it's, yeah, he,

00:10:16.440 they will get together because they're, they're both likable, intelligent gentlemen in the

00:10:21.320 political sphere. And they are both politicians to their absolute toenails, aren't they? So I

00:10:27.240 think that they will really get on and we'll be looking, I mean, I'll spend a lot of time in

00:10:31.800 Canada, I suspect, and vice versa, I think. So I think we will have that kind of connection.

00:10:37.640 um the trump thing's interesting and i think i take your point about trump um liking being called

00:10:43.240 out and liking an argument but um burnham doesn't go for that argumentative thing he doesn't um he

00:10:51.320 doesn't he's not playground at all he kind of rises above it so he's easy to say okay then i

00:10:58.440 once was working on one of his campaigns in fact for mayor i think if i liberally and i introduced

00:11:03.720 him because he's got the long eyelashes and all that i introduced someone to him as and here's

00:11:08.200 bambi burnham and instead of saying how dare you he just went okay and that's the kind of guy he is

00:11:16.040 we like that in this country quite apologetic he's quite apologetic for things and that works

00:11:22.240 really well for brits yeah self-awareness i think goes a long way with humans in general

00:11:26.840 You know, to be able to laugh at yourself, it's a very confident thing to do.

00:11:33.220 OK, so now you're looking down the barrel of a government that is potentially going to nationalize a bunch of things.

00:11:40.880 Steel, I notice you've got your your steel mug there.

00:11:45.080 And I would imagine that that is one of the targets on the list.

00:11:49.940 I think that's been done. That's a done deal. Right.

00:11:52.880 Starmer did this. Yeah.

00:11:55.080 Which is an interesting thing.

00:11:57.400 What do you think about nationalizing different major projects within the country?

00:12:02.080 And where do you think that leaves you, Steve, let's say 10, 15 years down the road?

00:12:07.260 The problem with nationalization is that it's about whether you can put the genie back in the bottle.

00:12:12.440 Two things, whether you can put that genie back in the bottle, whether that's going to provide you with,

00:12:18.000 well, it's not going to provide you with profits immediately.

00:12:20.020 so you're going to be looking at you know two or three or even four electoral cycles and that's not

00:12:25.400 what we do anymore plus it's an open checkbook you're back to Labour's 1974 manifesto when they

00:12:33.320 had a hundred companies or 200 companies at the beginning at the open when you open the page that

00:12:38.740 they were going to nationalize and it was all about picking winners and they didn't pick that

00:12:42.740 many you know I mean when you think about British Leyland and all of that so it's about how you do

00:12:48.680 this bear in mind that gordon brown did this with very little outcry when he bought a network rail

00:12:56.360 rail track back into network rail and said to shareholders here's your cash you know you get

00:13:01.480 this value of your shares can go up as well as down nobody called for his head and no and that

00:13:08.440 is actually a uh that's a world renowned and often uh duplicated model for nationalism okay here's how

00:13:16.360 the profit profit comes out here's where we end up here's our overall i mean we just opened a

00:13:21.640 a bridge to the us here in canada i don't know if you heard about this the gordy howe bridge

00:13:25.560 we've eaten 6.5 billion dollars in constructing this thing and we've decided that after net

00:13:32.120 operation costs of running it every year we'll still give 50 to the us

00:13:36.120 who has no interest in paying off the overall build and debt of this bridge

00:13:41.000 okay so you know we did petro canada and we talked about that on this network several times

00:13:49.040 we've done petro canada it was one of the biggest success stories in canadian economic history it

00:13:55.240 it brought our resources and our economy and our export expertise to the world our uh exploration

00:14:03.140 was top notch and we sold it you know we create the 407 here in ontario which is a toll highway 0.99

00:14:09.320 we sell it this is the danger i think when you say picking a winner being left with the dregs

00:14:15.000 and selling off the top end of the cream seems like what happens when you have to wait 15 20

00:14:21.640 years in several terms and several electoral periods yeah i think that he'll have an easier

00:14:27.960 time with it because there's such a push to say what you know um private companies with water

00:14:35.960 is a real issue.

00:14:38.440 Pumping sewage into rivers and the sea is a massive issue.

00:14:43.000 Well, Steve, stop there. Start with the water.

00:14:45.880 I mean, the last time this happened, it was by necessity,

00:14:49.440 and it seems like privatizing it again is also by necessity

00:14:52.380 based on our last conversation.

00:14:54.860 Yeah, it is, and that will make it much easier to nationalize.

00:14:57.400 So in a way, you're not picking winners.

00:14:59.000 You're picking what people want,

00:15:00.540 and that's a populist prime minister, isn't it?

00:15:02.860 So if he says, you want water nationalized, okay.

00:15:05.960 I'm going to do it. It's going to be difficult. And you're gonna have to work with me. But

00:15:09.860 there's 80%, if I remember rightly, 70 to 80% positivity on that when people are asked.

00:15:16.340 So that's, that's a good one for him to start with. And he is quite bold. I mean, he said,

00:15:22.360 we're drilling in the North Sea. We are now drilling again in the North Sea. They were

00:15:26.300 dancing in the streets of Aberdeen in Scotland, because that's where the, you know, the majority

00:15:31.220 that infrastructure will be. He will drill in the North Sea. So yeah, all the employment. So he's

00:15:36.980 bold, he can be quite bold. And I think people want that because they perceive that Starmer wasn't,

00:15:43.700 even though he was bolder than you think. I mean, who would have thought he would nationalize

00:15:47.780 British Steel? He didn't need to, could let it wither on the vine. I mean, so many other steel

00:15:53.220 plants have, but he nationalized it. He was bold, but people didn't see that. Burnham is going to

00:15:58.820 get the word the word out because people like him you can't be a paper tiger in this era unfortunately

00:16:05.060 i mean your history can't be what what you can't wait for your history you actually especially in

00:16:11.060 an era where the news is so scant i don't know about in the uk journalism here it's so sad i

00:16:17.860 just got a notification from the canadian association of journalism and they have a

00:16:22.900 seminar going on on how to cope with the idea that you're no longer needed in society as a journalist

00:16:28.820 That's the association's response to this.

00:16:34.540 So that's the era here.

00:16:37.160 If it's the same in the UK, you are dealing with really limited clips of communication with the with the civilian population and the voters and the people who make a difference.

00:16:49.240 You've got them on TikTok and Instagram and a little bit on Facebook and on YouTube.

00:16:54.200 and I mean Steve really you and I are on YouTube right now and we we really shouldn't be put in

00:17:00.920 charge of running any country so I think that's part of the challenge is that if you don't have

00:17:06.660 a big bolster about your own agenda and what you've accomplished nobody's going to know and

00:17:14.220 I don't think Starmer did a good job of that no he didn't and it was all quite corporate so it was

00:17:19.000 all his social media game was basically you know well I can see that's come from labor

00:17:23.680 Burnham's media game is different.

00:17:26.300 So, you know, from the snacks in the pub and all of that

00:17:29.260 and ideas around that, he's got his own social media, very open.

00:17:33.880 He's such a likeable guy that he doesn't need to set anything up.

00:17:36.960 He can just say, hello, everybody, here I am walking around.

00:17:40.860 People like it.

00:17:42.720 And he's waited a long time to be prime minister.

00:17:45.660 He's tried to be leader of the Labour Party twice,

00:17:48.160 failed ignominiously both times,

00:17:49.680 and then became the King of the North, as we call him, as London Mayor.

00:17:56.100 So he's waited a long time.

00:17:57.160 One of the first things he's done is to devolve some of those government departments

00:18:02.820 to Manchester, number 10 North, which is, I mean, that's a big deal.

00:18:09.520 That's a very bold thing to do, frankly.

00:18:12.320 Huge.

00:18:12.700 And it's necessary.

00:18:14.420 I mean, we watched it happen in Canada where we took elements of the federal government

00:18:18.640 and put them in strategic points where it would, you know, offset mining towns with other jobs

00:18:27.100 so that, you know, the rest of the populace could live in those areas.

00:18:30.780 And, you know, our government taxation department is right here in Ontario,

00:18:35.880 and it's far north in Sudbury.

00:18:37.840 It's about, you know, four hours north of the border.

00:18:42.740 So, you know, it does seem to work.

00:18:46.300 Whether it adds or reduces efficiency really is not the issue.

00:18:51.280 It's what it does for those communities, what it does overall for the economy there.

00:18:56.200 Yeah, and it makes a big comment, doesn't it?

00:18:59.400 It was his first week and he said, I'm doing this.

00:19:02.220 You know, he didn't seem to have to ask people, this is my idea and I will do it.

00:19:07.140 And actually, it happened so quickly.

00:19:09.960 He announced it seemingly at the beginning of the week.

00:19:12.640 By the Friday of last week, he was there in the offices welcoming people and opening it.

00:19:20.900 It's extraordinary this has happened.

00:19:22.440 It's almost as if they were preparing for it before he arrived.

00:19:26.400 That sounds like exactly what was going on.

00:19:29.800 Be careful of this, people.

00:19:31.040 If he's that good, it could be staged.

00:19:32.980 Steve, let's have some fun, shall we?

00:19:35.020 i want to challenge you to something here's what i've done see if you want to play along with this

00:19:42.940 i put a prompt into chat gpt prior to the show and here's what i gave it i've got my boy steve

00:19:50.840 swift from the uk coming on the show today to tell me what's what with the new uk government

00:19:55.080 give me six killer fun questions to ask and the response by the way from chat gpt was very charming

00:20:02.540 Steve's good on his feet.

00:20:04.020 These should generate a lively discussion.

00:20:06.300 Not that you and I need discussion points to get things going,

00:20:09.100 but I thought this was kind of fun.

00:20:11.240 You mind if I go through these?

00:20:13.160 Of course.

00:20:13.820 I'd be delighted.

00:20:14.820 This sounds very interesting for me.

00:20:17.180 I think AI is much better at interviewing.

00:20:20.440 So let's see how it does.

00:20:22.300 Question number one, AI asks,

00:20:24.720 if someone had been asleep for the past two years

00:20:27.120 and woke up in Britain today,

00:20:28.620 what are the three biggest changes they'd notice immediately?

00:20:31.880 Great question.

00:20:36.200 That's huge. Probably, probably, um, reform, reform the populist right-wing party's march,

00:20:46.440 even though I have to tell you now, it's stopping. We've reached peak reform. So

00:20:52.840 talk about that another time, but that's stopping. Um, probably,

00:20:57.480 i think probably a split in voters between the um younger voters uh who vote will vote green

00:21:09.340 in general in the cities and older voters in the towns and countryside that would vote

00:21:15.940 tory or reform okay and probably that nothing has happened as a result of brexit except we've

00:21:26.540 all got poorer okay man ai is doing okay huh nick uh how about how about this one uh you know by

00:21:36.900 the way i wanted to make a nice image of you and i to share right now but then it said to me that

00:21:41.080 i had to subscribe uh but here we go on a scale from new direction to same old politics how

00:21:48.900 different do you think the new government will actually feel to the ordinary breath we kind of

00:21:53.340 covered this but yeah it will feel as if it's communitarian so we're all in it together aren't

00:22:00.420 we um it will feel it will feel quite northern so there'll be a kind of welcoming open-hearted 0.63

00:22:09.040 feel to it and there'll be a feel that actually if you tell me that's crap and i feel it is i'll 0.98

00:22:15.560 say yeah that's crap and if if it's a policy that you think yeah that's crap then i'll be honest 0.98

00:22:21.860 with you. So that kind of open warmth about, look, you know, that's what, that's what politicians 0.99

00:22:29.040 start with, isn't it? Look, I'm just like you. I don't get it right all the time. I'm a bit crap

00:22:35.420 at times. You know, I'm a bit geeky. I support Everton football club and I've got a season ticket. 0.98

00:22:40.340 I like New Order. I'm probably a little bit geeky, but you know what? I'm having a go.

00:22:46.420 And it does seem like someone you could have a pint with, a bit like Nigel Farage from reform,

00:22:51.080 but totally different all right hold on a second i better do this just to represent the canadian

00:22:57.100 part of ai nice ai canadian asks uh oh this is good what's the issue that everyone in britain

00:23:06.180 is arguing about right now that canadians probably haven't even heard of

00:23:10.320 um i think i mean people are still arguing about the boats you've heard of that though shortly

00:23:18.220 Oh, Bodie McBoatface and why we named it that.

00:23:22.220 That argument?

00:23:23.220 This is a different kind of boats.

00:23:26.220 People are talking about migration at the moment.

00:23:30.220 What people are talking about in this country,

00:23:32.220 and I don't know whether or not this is my algorithms,

00:23:35.220 and also I don't know whether or not this is something you're talking about

00:23:37.220 where you are in Canada, but they're talking about the lurch to the right,

00:23:41.220 because we have acceptable right, I suppose, with reform,

00:23:47.220 And then further right parties like Restore and things like that.

00:23:52.040 Sort of a more moderate, easy to participate in right.

00:23:57.000 A little bit of social conscience alongside conservatism.

00:24:01.680 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of reform.

00:24:04.380 Restore would be further right than that.

00:24:06.940 So we're seeing that.

00:24:09.260 We're seeing a resurgence of that kind of popular right,

00:24:13.140 which I thought would last a lot longer.

00:24:15.040 and at the moment that's not tanking into the toilet but it's not doing as well as it did

00:24:20.100 um and then the splitting of the right vote by further right parties so if people say uh you

00:24:26.460 know reform i voted for them because there was something different now they're just councillors

00:24:31.000 and mps and and he wants to be the prime minister nigel farage so his establishment i'm going to go

00:24:36.560 for reform because they are outliers so we're going to get a lot of new smaller far right i

00:24:42.680 believe outlier parties the outlier parties though they are full of previous politicians

00:24:48.260 uh members of parliament that have almost splintered is that that's my understanding

00:24:53.800 are these completely new individuals to politics reform is full of um conservative ex-conservative

00:25:03.840 party members and and um mps um the the farther right parties are not so they are you know

00:25:11.840 grassroots parties, but configured as parties. So they're not kind of, we're going on a demo.

00:25:17.960 Let's have that kind of grouping. They are a political party, but they are not people who

00:25:23.960 are, I mean, one of them has a party and he's an MP, but generally you wouldn't get those kind of

00:25:30.240 MPs in those further right parties, but you would get them in reform.

00:25:36.560 In the reform, the new reform, I guess.

00:25:41.040 Yeah, I mean, they're kind of acceptable rights,

00:25:44.220 although the left wing would rail against them,

00:25:46.540 but a lot of people think they speak.

00:25:48.100 That was my next question.

00:25:48.980 It's hard to argue when you're that close to the centre, isn't it?

00:25:52.420 It is.

00:25:54.260 And one thing that I was podcasting about a while ago was that

00:25:58.540 because Starmer's got a plus 13 rating,

00:26:02.160 Nigel Farage has got a minus 22 rating,

00:26:04.940 which has never been that low, I don't think,

00:26:07.100 not for quite some time,

00:26:08.640 and he's in a lot of trouble at the moment.

00:26:10.320 um so he's got a very low rating and kenny badenoch who is the leader of the conservatives

00:26:17.440 who seem to be down and out a while ago yeah is up there just positive and that's incredible

00:26:23.720 and we might be coming back to two-party politics in britain after after dipping our toe in the

00:26:29.020 water for smaller parties like reform and the greens and i think if that's the case it's because

00:26:34.420 andy burnham is kind of hey guys look at me with my t-shirt under my jacket and that kind of thing

00:26:39.840 a new order and all that is very different to kenny badadoc who's kind of posh um very smooth

00:26:46.860 very very kind of buttoned down quite thatcherite and i think people like that punch and judy

00:26:53.620 thing even though we say we don't i think we like that kind of very different across the dispatch

00:26:58.520 box it's just a lot easier to define politics in your mind you know uh in that and and unfortunately

00:27:04.860 And I recommend you don't do it. We basically have a two party system here in Canada that, you know, kind of leaves us.

00:27:13.020 There's such a divide. It almost feels like often the opposition is doing nothing.

00:27:16.820 And now we have a majority in power in the liberals that it's difficult for us to see the opposition make any real change.

00:27:24.680 By the way, the last two questions were not AI. That's why they didn't sound so eloquent.

00:27:29.280 No, I don't like that one. OK, I'll tell you what, we'll finish up on this one.

00:27:34.220 What is the biggest myth Canadians have about Britain today?

00:27:38.340 Is it that blood pudding is delicious?

00:27:42.340 It could be, because it is delicious, I believe.

00:27:47.560 And I know a lot of people don't.

00:27:48.780 And there's a lot of English people who don't.

00:27:50.860 But I think it's absolutely delicious and should be part of your breakfast every day.

00:27:56.160 That is nonsense.

00:27:57.220 I don't think that's good for your health.

00:27:59.500 Don't shake up your voice on this.

00:28:02.420 But listen, it gets worse because we have white pudding as well.

00:28:06.160 So we call it black pudding here.

00:28:07.740 And we have white pudding, which is greasier and even worse for your arteries.

00:28:12.640 I actually think I'd probably prefer that one, to be honest with you,

00:28:15.600 just because I don't like that some people call black pudding blood pudding. 0.75

00:28:19.460 That's disgusting to me. 0.92

00:28:21.260 They do. 0.93

00:28:21.700 I will say this.

00:28:23.040 I will take beans and bangers any day of the week, any meal of the day.

00:28:28.220 It don't matter.

00:28:28.920 and put hollandaise sauce on all of it, if you don't mind.

00:28:32.700 So, I got you.

00:28:35.100 I love that.

00:28:36.140 But what do you think?

00:28:37.100 What's the biggest misconception Canadians have right now

00:28:39.660 about Britain and or the British?

00:28:42.740 It's probably that we are genteel and nothing gets us riled up

00:28:47.980 because it's kind of a bit after you, no after you.

00:28:51.860 You know, I lay my handkerchief down so you can walk over it.

00:28:55.340 And we're not like that now.

00:28:57.100 so nothing has really kicked off yet and i thought in the summer with all of the hot weather i thought

00:29:03.360 then we're gonna have riots and i keep saying this and we never we haven't recently but people

00:29:08.960 get out on the street now um and generally it's about it is about migrants and migrant hotels and

00:29:14.820 that kind of thing and it's a right-wing push but um and there's exploitation going on in that i

00:29:20.800 firmly believe but we do get out but we do get out now we do get out we get you know we have those

00:29:26.580 rallies and those counter marches all of that and really for soccer for sport the world cup even uh

00:29:32.420 you know it's so fun because uh i my wife is mexican and so of course the the uh the it was a

00:29:39.780 a glorious moment for for uh the brits there in in uh mexico but they everybody get along beautifully

00:29:46.180 and and it was just wonderful to see how excited the british were just to be part of the world cup

00:29:52.820 and how gracious they were abroad to participate it was very cool to watch from from here yeah i

00:29:58.740 mean and we don't expect much you know and and we got through to the semi-final and i don't think

00:30:06.180 you know for me personally our manager thomas tuchel thomas tuchel's tactics is what i keep

00:30:11.060 saying because you don't put two defenders on and say to a team like argentina just attack us for 30

00:30:17.140 minutes, as if we're not going to get tired, you know? So don't do that. I think, personally,

00:30:23.900 that a manager of his, Caliba, to be, I thought he got frightened. I thought he got frightened

00:30:29.560 of the Argentinians and then said, I'll put loads of defenders on. And it's like that 1.00

00:30:33.320 animal spirits thing, isn't it, with Andy Burnham? If you put defenders on, people are

00:30:36.600 going to say, I don't think he trusts us. Whereas if he put an attacker on and went,

00:30:40.540 come on, lads, you can do it. I think we'd have that British, that British Tommy spirit.

00:30:46.000 But it's the same thing with Andy Burden.

00:30:48.440 You know, when he says this country is great,

00:30:51.100 he doesn't say it like Boris Johnson.

00:30:54.160 No, he says it like, come on, this is great.

00:30:58.340 I have noticed that.

00:30:59.600 I do think he has a genuine spirit about what he's doing,

00:31:03.660 and he's been in politics long enough now that it's a job.

00:31:06.240 So if he loves his job, what can you do?

00:31:09.220 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:10.720 And he's wanted this, and he's very modest about it,

00:31:14.420 but it's clear he's wanted this for so long. And it's come true for him. And he can't quite

00:31:20.480 believe it at the moment. But he's made some really big moves. And he's doing all right.

00:31:26.620 It's difficult for, because I've got an awful lot of people who would follow reform on my

00:31:31.860 algorithms, because, you know, I talk to them, you know, and say, this is it from my point of

00:31:37.320 view, because I'm not of that area. And what they've got is, well, he still looks like the

00:31:42.000 mayor of Manchester and he's just having a good time. That's all they've got. And I want my,

00:31:46.920 I want my prime minister to look as if he's having a good time, not to look as if he's

00:31:52.280 passing a very difficult turd, which is what Keir Starmer always looked like. He always looked like

00:31:57.180 it was a bit of a spiky tool, a spiky turd or stool coming out. So, you know, always. I don't

00:32:03.580 want to look like, I don't want him to look like that. I don't want him to, because he was always

00:32:06.820 like this he got very specific but still it sounded so polite so you have to understand

00:32:12.820 our perspective that was very polite of you uh you know what we've missed our opportunity for

00:32:19.140 the moment but if you think steve swift should be the next prime minister of the uk i want you

00:32:25.780 to put it in the comments and any other questions i missed or uh my chat gpt missed i want you to

00:32:32.340 participate in this steve you're a lovely guy i'm delighted to see you and uh before summer's out

00:32:38.180 let's do this again absolutely i just have to say vote for me good for me good for you good for

00:32:45.380 britain wow you've even got a slogan huh all right well done thank you very much for joining us we'll

00:32:52.740 catch you next time right here on tplmedia.ca until then take care

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True Patriot Love - August 01, 2026

Can Britain's New Prime Minister Fix the UK？ ft Steve Swift

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