True Patriot Love - Canada Isn't Ready for the Next Pandemic — Here's Why

00:00:00.000 A few years ago, one of my favorite authors, Annie Jacobson, wrote a compelling book about

00:00:09.840 the scenario of what would happen in a nuclear war. This past summer, she wrote an equally

00:00:15.060 compelling book of what would happen in a biological war. And here we are a few months

00:00:19.820 after the publication of that book. A few weeks ago, a worker at a plague research institute

00:00:24.960 in siberia passed away sending some alarm bells ringing all across the world to talk more about

00:00:30.560 it thrilled to be joined by paul micucci paul how are you good jim yeah this is unbelievable

00:00:35.880 unbelievable that we're still talking about biological weapons we're still talking about

00:00:41.780 the fact that in siberia they're doing research uh biological testing in this day and age after

00:00:48.940 covid why would anyone still be doing biological testing and and if they don't have an antidote

00:00:57.340 you wonder why jim i know why because of the cold war in the height of the cold war

00:01:02.380 the russian military the ussr really felt that they were going to be invaded and overrun by

00:01:09.260 america and nato and if their nuclear weapon facilities were taken out they were prepared

00:01:15.740 to use biological chemical weapons to defend mother russia they were more than prepared to do 0.54

00:01:21.700 that they had huge stockpiles of all sorts of weapons and what they thought was the serum or 0.61

00:01:27.620 anecdote to protect themselves and that paranoia continues from the cold war the honor putin used

00:01:34.560 to be a member of the kgb during the cold war those feelings that we're about to be invaded

00:01:40.220 anytime have not gone away through the russian administration and that's one of the reasons i

00:01:44.920 believe they still have these kind of research facilities in far away siberia yeah well for for

00:01:50.520 the viewers jim so siberia siberia on the tip of russia right just across from alaska so yeah just

00:01:58.100 so everyone kind of gets the the geographical positioning we're talking like six seven time

00:02:03.720 zones from moscow exactly so if anything did go wrong quite frankly they could isolate it or be

00:02:09.680 relatively isolated yes so very cold i think we talked about it before the show um you know you

00:02:16.520 got uh siberia you got a yellow knife you know if for those of you who live in ottawa um you think

00:02:23.360 of ottawa as far as in a little more quite frankly than ottawa well for temperature but they're on

00:02:28.140 the same latitude as the yellow knife yes so they're the same latitude but as far as uh

00:02:33.020 the freezing frigid winters you know very uh dreary long extended winters and quite frankly

00:02:40.540 as we talked about it jim it's 55 miles from the tip of siberia to alaska um so the u.s has always

00:02:48.460 been you mentioned they've always guarded the tip of alaska because in case of anything ever happened

00:02:54.320 huge yeah across through siberia they have two major fighter bases and military bases um in

00:03:00.800 alaska on the coast and the interior and they've had that since world war ii and even to this day

00:03:06.680 they have some of their most advanced military equipment at those bases to protect america

00:03:12.260 alaska is part of america and if something's going to kick off that could be the starting

00:03:16.520 point right there they've always thought that paul a very quick favor before we continue a large

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00:03:49.180 to the show and the russians are great um winter fighters they they actually they do a lot of

00:03:56.220 training up in siberia um they're very good in the cold and inclement weather that part of the

00:04:03.180 you know i always say eastern europe jim uh people are very good with heavy machinery heavy uh uh

00:04:10.780 electronics and mechanical uh equipment so quite frank the russians which are very good with uh

00:04:19.100 moving through adverse climates and weathers and and and so create frankly when you look at this

00:04:25.740 you think okay siberia is probably the place they would do this research and it looks like they're

00:04:30.700 doing this research and when you looked at the outbreak when we you know all of a sudden uh you

00:04:36.460 saw marco rubio he was standing up there and he says well you know we've asked them to stop and

00:04:42.060 to let us know the we know what they're doing and how they're going to contain the plague

00:04:47.500 and then you start seeing pictures of all these people sitting in these uh screened off desk

00:04:52.860 cubicles uh and then you hear about this young lady who who died uh died of pneumonia of pneumonia

00:05:00.300 yeah uh and now recently we've heard over the weekend and now they're denying it but we've

00:05:05.340 heard of a second person now correct so we're in number two um apparently and so they're still

00:05:11.420 trying to confirm that but russia's now gone quiet i think part of the issue here paul is

00:05:16.700 we were so rattled by covid and the effect on health care business people's lives people still

00:05:24.340 paying a mental health price to this day i think of the huge segment of the population

00:05:29.840 want to believe this could never happen again but at the same time even during covid even during

00:05:36.980 all the the berlin walls down you know communism is over we were lulled into a false sense of

00:05:43.000 security russia never stopped investigating researching and developing information and 0.64

00:05:50.520 weapons like this and anecdotes for stuff like this they i mean no country suffered more deaths

00:05:56.640 in world war ii than russia nobody civilians and military so that those scars still run deep there

00:06:03.360 and i i know for a lot of people in canada and western europe and a lot of the developed world

00:06:10.020 we think why would you have a lab to develop but they they think differently they have a

00:06:15.780 different mindset and i even with the debt there i don't think they're going to stop

00:06:21.140 researching biological weapons there are there's this is just one lab in siberia you have to

00:06:27.820 believe there's more paul well oh yeah for sure jim and you know for those viewers who don't have

00:06:33.780 russian friends it's very interesting because if you do take some time and talk to them a little

00:06:40.060 bit about their life in russia and when they started out because i i do have a fairly good

00:06:46.360 friend and he's a electrician friend of mine and he has worked with me for years and he once told

00:06:53.140 me the story of how his childhood his professions were selected for him in his childhood he had no

00:07:02.200 say he had no say so and i and what happened was he was woke up one day as a seven-year-old

00:07:08.680 he his family got a visit and they were told that because he was small in stature

00:07:15.000 he was going to be a jumper a horse jumping uh and he was going to train uh to be in the olympics

00:07:23.080 wait a second what if he had a gross bird at 12. no they started him they decided you know and now

00:07:28.440 i don't even know i i said to him once i said can you imagine what they were giving you to make

00:07:33.320 sure you're you didn't grow like you weren't going to go significantly more so but his family was

00:07:39.640 small like his family okay so quite frankly the odds were he was going to be okay but you know

00:07:44.760 so they took him away they put him on a uh a horse farm where you know the hunter jumper you know the

00:07:51.720 olympic jumping all that stuff so he trained and he was very good he did end up going and competing

00:07:57.400 um at the olympic level and then at the same time he went to school but he was actually put in school

00:08:04.200 for electronics and data oh so he's very specific it's not like we a lot of schooling here they you

00:08:12.920 do go to school and you get the basics but you're you're channeled in a direction we're here we

00:08:18.760 decided afterwards so now go to siberia for a minute because this is an interesting when you

00:08:23.400 listen to the story and i don't think canadians kind of hid i don't think we focused on it in

00:08:28.040 the articles that were written about this the people who are in siberia aren't there because

00:08:33.080 they want to be in siberia i'd say there there are um uh siberian natives almost their version

00:08:39.800 of indigenous people who have lived there thousands of years but that's a very very small minority

00:08:45.640 right the people who are sent there yeah quite frankly are sent there because they have a

00:08:50.200 specialty so it's either you know uh let's put it it's either uh heat pumps or it's mining mining or

00:08:59.240 it's uh pharma chemicals or something so you're you're tapped on the shoulder and you're sent

00:09:06.200 to siberia now your life in siberia is well it's harsh to say the least it's harsh to say the least

00:09:13.240 that's a nice way to put it jim i'm glad you were very diplomatic about for years that was the old

00:09:17.160 thing you if you behave or we'll send you to siberia right it's horrible so and you know and

00:09:23.000 i've friends have told me that the people you know it's it's it's like going almost to a prison camp

00:09:28.360 but you're sent there to work in uh factories and like you mentioned mines and and very high risk

00:09:37.160 uh function so the people are sent there are on purpose because if anything happens in those areas

00:09:42.760 it's expendable in the russian culture or if that's the way it's thought of if anything blows

00:09:49.160 up or there's a leak or there's a spill 99 of the population is so far away from it they won't be 0.89

00:09:56.120 affected they're so the people in siberia are expendable so that's why they they they do that 0.90

00:10:01.160 with them so here we are and we get this notice okay and then and we're not really talking too 0.98

00:10:07.080 much about it so as canadians we're kind of quiet we you know there was a message sent across isn't

00:10:12.360 that too bad sorry to hear that please send us a note if there's an outbreak whatever but then you

00:10:17.880 take a look at the map and i think we talked about earlier jim we're talking 55 miles from the tip of

00:10:24.040 siberia to alaska then right beside alaska is the yukon and northern bc yeah and now we're into

00:10:31.720 you're really into canada at that point absolutely yeah so as we go down so then you're starting to

00:10:37.320 think to yourself okay now i'm worried a little bit because you have wind drafts currents uh quite

00:10:42.680 frankly well on the email right now so so the interesting or the terrible part about if you

00:10:47.240 think about it and i'm not trying to make a movie about this but if something does go wrong in

00:10:51.800 siberia one of the challenges one of the issues will be if the russians aren't going to let the

00:10:57.640 people go back into russia i doubt it but they're going to try to escape somewhere else because

00:11:06.200 quite frankly they're isolated up there so and i'm not saying i'm not saying it'd be i mean they

00:11:11.000 wouldn't be able to i don't think um to get across on a boat from the from the tip of russia to the

00:11:17.960 aleutian islands to get into alaska they would be so heavily patrolled i think american coast

00:11:23.400 guarded navy could prevent them from getting on their soil but then now so then you have you know

00:11:29.080 think about plagues so now you have people coming in contact with people who potentially could have

00:11:34.920 plagues and that's the way as we know we saw it through covid right yes you know it getting on

00:11:39.240 a plane and it came on a lab it came on a plane they touched someone it's like one boom boom yeah

00:11:44.840 yeah yeah yeah boom contacts so you're trying to isolate these people but then one after another

00:11:50.120 it's starting to it starts to spread across and we're sitting there so then the the question i

00:11:57.000 had right away i know that's why i wanted to do this show with you jim is you and liam did this

00:12:02.360 show a few months ago and it was about where we sat as canadians in preparedness for the next

00:12:12.120 covet or the next event the country's never had an official review all these other countries around

00:12:18.520 the world had a royal commission yeah or a government commission looked at what they did

00:12:23.780 right yeah what they did wrong what would our steps be the next time if anything happened

00:12:29.040 and how do we handle it next time anything happens and canada is one of a handful of

00:12:34.300 countries in the world who have not done a reset a look back a harsh look good bad and ugly from

00:12:40.920 covid and how if anything god forbid happens again what would we do differently to protect

00:12:46.620 canadians both you know physically and protect our economy well we're in bed with india germany

00:12:55.320 japan and brazil as far as countries who haven't gone back and done a review yeah the rest of the

00:13:00.900 world has done so the rest of the world's gone back and said okay you know what did we do right

00:13:05.180 what did we do wrong and you know the thing that got me this weekend i don't know if you picked it

00:13:10.360 up the flu shots out yes i've seen the uh notifications yeah the flu shots out so you

00:13:16.680 know thanksgiving everyone comes over my family's had uh the mild cold going through it um so

00:13:24.840 touch wood we've actually you know it hasn't been bad this year so it kind of went through

00:13:29.160 us fairly quickly my son always goes to school and gets two weeks in he gets a cold that's what

00:13:34.520 kids do you know they pass it all along and then they're good until christmas they get it again and

00:13:39.640 and then you get it one more time in March, right?

00:13:41.680 Yeah, you got March break.

00:13:42.540 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:42.920 You kind of know, you know, you know the seasonality.

00:13:45.340 But I'm looking at it and I'm thinking to myself,

00:13:48.160 am I going to get a flu shot?

00:13:50.460 And then we started talking around the table at Thanksgiving.

00:13:53.520 And we're all, you know, talking about what we're thankful for

00:13:56.240 and we're having a nice conversation.

00:13:57.600 Then it got down to the thing.

00:14:00.120 Only one person was getting a flu shot.

00:14:02.340 Out of how many, Paul?

00:14:03.740 Twelve.

00:14:04.380 Yeah.

00:14:05.720 One out of twelve, and they're all young, Jim.

00:14:08.080 I mean, a lot of the numbers bear that out that, you know, it's higher in people 65 and older, but 65 and younger, the amount of people getting seasonal shots are around what, 23%. And this is from the, you know, Canadian research, the seasonal respiratory vaccination coverage survey. So you're looking at a quarter of Canadians are thinking of getting some kind of shot.

00:14:33.920 So think about this, and this is what scares me in Canada right now a little bit,

00:14:38.760 and not going back and doing the review and talking to people about it.

00:14:42.620 So something, say, you know, God forbid this plague ever broke loose. 0.82

00:14:47.960 Then you'd have to go to Canadians, and you'd have to say, 1.00

00:14:51.240 here's the antidote, and hopefully they would find one. 0.85

00:14:55.740 You'd have to then convince them to take it after COVID.

00:15:00.220 That's the key right there, convince them.

00:15:02.300 No, because right now, you know, whether it be podcasting, whatever I'm listening to, they're constantly talking about the long-term effect of the COVID shots, how it altered.

00:15:14.960 I listened to four hours one weekend of a professor from Germany talk about how it's altered people's hippocampus in their brain.

00:15:25.440 Really?

00:15:26.100 And some of the negative side effects and what it's done.

00:15:29.960 And it was very compelling.

00:15:31.120 i didn't when i got to the end i didn't know and he believes that you can offset some of that with

00:15:37.440 uh micro dosing of lithium and and so i listened to it and i thought ah i listened to it because

00:15:44.240 i thought maybe it's something i'd want to think about doing because i did take the covert shot

00:15:49.040 um i don't really have side effects thank goodness but um not that i i recognize but

00:15:55.200 But I'm sitting there, and I'm listening.

00:15:57.320 I'm thinking, eh, maybe.

00:15:59.280 But it's funny.

00:16:01.780 I spent four hours while working outside on construction.

00:16:04.880 Listening to it.

00:16:05.640 Listening to this show intently.

00:16:08.800 And I went back and read his audio book.

00:16:11.900 So then I got his audio book, and I listened to his audio book.

00:16:14.880 And I thought, is it worth me investigating?

00:16:17.100 I didn't do it in the end.

00:16:18.340 Right.

00:16:18.640 But think about this.

00:16:19.840 So today, just a few hours before we started taping,

00:16:22.260 the global mail um did an in-depth story saying plague fear reminds us we still need an accounting

00:16:29.220 of her covet 19 response so okay as canadians here's you know all levels of media yeah mainstream

00:16:37.980 legacy media independent media podcasts are going hey wait a sec i know we have a lot of problems in

00:16:43.920 canada but we're not safe from a future covet 19 or siberian plague can we not bring some minds

00:16:52.280 together and take a look at what was good what was bad what we can never do again so we're prepared

00:16:59.040 as canadians because we're being naive at all levels if we don't do that paul well i agree

00:17:04.540 apparently when covet happened and we we dug into it on a previous show there are only a few people

00:17:11.520 in the emergency response so the emergency response task force was small they've now

00:17:16.420 branched it out from the guys told me before the show into uh five regions across canada right with

00:17:24.020 roughly 10 to 15 people full-time per region per region yeah now they they if something did break

00:17:30.340 out they would use the st john's ambulance guys or they would use the uh uh first uh um

00:17:37.960 the paramedic emts emts right so they would use them to help but uh you know it's interesting

00:17:45.520 because when you look at it jim they've rolled something out so they've actually hired full-time

00:17:52.720 people they put them in by region but they've never once told us what the protocols would be

00:17:58.040 so which which because they haven't gone back and and told canadians told canadians so someone

00:18:03.540 someone said okay we didn't we weren't equipped you know we didn't have the proper uh processes

00:18:08.540 and people in place when it started for covid so now we are okay we hired people they sit around

00:18:15.540 full time they look and watch you know trends with respect to flus colds wastewater diseases

00:18:22.200 wastewater emergency room visits i don't know about you did you see we were going to do a show

00:18:27.040 on it and i i think we're still going to do it they did the what this is part of the team that

00:18:32.040 did the wastewater review and the water review and they found the amount of fentanyl in our

00:18:39.380 watch did you see that it was like they were shocked yeah so they're not very busy right now

00:18:45.240 they were doing the testing it was it was amazing the levels that they found of different drugs

00:18:52.200 in in our waters and i and our but their wastewater yeah yeah waters and i was shocked

00:18:57.280 by that i was like oh my goodness but paul i can vividly remember when ben johnson was caught for

00:19:03.880 doping uh for steroid use at the 1988 summer olympics in seoul and the scandal within a year

00:19:11.440 they had the dubbing commission yeah with a respected judge and they got to the bottom of

00:19:19.560 performance enhancing drugs in athletics in canada this is we're coming up on seven years in spring

00:19:25.940 it'll be seven years since covid hit yeah i just don't understand why we don't have a bipartisan

00:19:32.320 impartial neutral commission look at it without pointing fingers or out gaining political points

00:19:40.220 and say next time god forbid this happens we are ready because this this and this or you need to

00:19:47.260 do this no one's been told that in canada and it's kind of shocking paul it is shocking and

00:19:52.420 you know i was going through it and i'm thinking to myself okay so this plague catches loose

00:19:58.640 which we don't we hope it never does but after what happened to covid it could it catches loose

00:20:04.280 yeah what do they do next because that's shut things down again because remember if you remember

00:20:09.860 jim that was the protocol for last time right exactly let's just shut and what happened people

00:20:16.320 lost jobs who never got them back people suffered mental health issues they may never recover from

00:20:22.580 we had the freedom convoy in ottawa which we're still dealing with the aftermath of that and i

00:20:28.480 think there's a huge segment of the canadian population because they've not been told what's

00:20:34.080 happened and what we do next if they got told that again by the government i think there's a

00:20:38.380 lot of canadians would not adhere to wouldn't listen well and this is interesting i struggled

00:20:43.940 at the beginning i think i told you that story you know before when i was told and i had a few

00:20:50.100 businesses going on and i was told to shutter now i had to i had to lay off i think seven 760 people

00:20:59.780 all in three days and you know the the boards and the partners that i had at the time

00:21:07.220 i had some difficulty because i went to them and i said okay it's fine but where are these people

00:21:14.180 going to go how are they going to pay their mortgages what's going to happen they still

00:21:17.300 have bills right they have well they have bills they have families they have like i said so like

00:21:22.900 we have to kind of figure all that out quickly because i can't just put them on the street and

00:21:27.620 let them fail and their homes get taken away like we were in the mid you know uh it was cold quite

00:21:34.100 frankly oh yeah it was still winter it was still winter uh especially up in ottawa one of the

00:21:39.620 businesses i was dealing with quite frankly it was the middle i said so you got to help me like

00:21:43.700 are we going to pay them not pay them who's paying them where are they going to go what are we going

00:21:47.940 to do with them some people were crying it was interesting as we were giving their notice remember

00:21:53.060 because we were giving them their notice in their cars they couldn't come in because at that point

00:21:58.420 because of the the rules the distance so we had to put gloves on put masks on they had to drive in

00:22:04.500 and you handed them the notice yeah they had to get their roes so the so they could get their

00:22:10.260 unemployment and their their benefits and they were we were giving them through the window and

00:22:15.140 they were coming in and they were like weeping as they were coming in because they didn't know where

00:22:18.980 to go what to do uh some of them were in dire straits and i'm i was sitting there and i'm thinking

00:22:24.340 to myself this isn't the right way to do it like it's not the right why hasn't the government told

00:22:32.100 you and other business owners across the country what would be the right way to do it because no

00:22:38.340 one said anything they didn't know and they still don't know apparently right well that's the thing

00:22:43.700 so if this happened again we would all go home we'd sit at home and wait for a hodgepodge dispersion

00:22:50.260 of benefits and payments to companies i still believe you know you look at look at the mess

00:22:56.260 look at the number of people who got benefits it shouldn't have gotten benefits the number of

00:23:00.820 people who game the system you know it happened in the private and public it happened everywhere

00:23:07.300 and you're looking at it you think to yourself okay like we squandered all this money we a lot

00:23:12.980 of the monies we did give to people and companies went the wrong way because we weren't prepared now

00:23:18.340 we are prepared so it should be very easy now to actually have a plan where it's targeted

00:23:24.020 and let everyone know and then as far as like antidotes and uh vaccines yeah yeah you know we

00:23:32.740 didn't we right away we dispel the number of things we said you know this doesn't work that

00:23:38.260 doesn't work we weren't gonna don't look at this don't look at that we didn't look at natural uh

00:23:43.780 supplements right away to get people's immune systems uh pumped up and i had a mother-in-law

00:23:50.420 in the alzheimer's wing in a senior's home and the only way my wife could see her own mother

00:23:55.780 was to be vaccinated up to wazoo or she wasn't even allowed in the building and she had basically

00:24:01.220 biohazard suit on yes yeah well then i went through the same thing with my dad and but it

00:24:06.580 that was the uh again no plan a no plan on how now the good thing is i think in the seniors homes

00:24:13.540 Because they've got so much focus and it hit so hard in the seniors' homes right away, COVID.

00:24:19.200 I think they've gotten fairly decent at figuring out protocol for shutdowns, lockdowns.

00:24:26.620 I know they've gotten better where my dad is right now.

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00:24:48.380 Okay, so your business, your other business outside of this,

00:24:51.960 do you have a government, provincial, and federal protocol

00:24:54.880 if something like that ever happened again?

00:24:56.760 No.

00:24:57.300 You've never been given one?

00:24:58.580 No.

00:24:59.040 No?

00:24:59.540 No.

00:24:59.720 I've never had a conversation.

00:25:01.880 We have an emergency plan for the business of different fire,

00:25:05.180 within the business, evacuations, power outages.

00:25:08.620 But as far as pandemics, no, we don't have anything.

00:25:12.240 How is that possible?

00:25:13.180 this many years later well the interesting thing so think about it and this was you know i tell

00:25:18.700 the story about stopping drinking during covet yeah so here you're one of the few because apparently

00:25:24.000 it went the opposite way well i had to because i want to come back i knew that after laying off

00:25:30.060 760 people not shutting the businesses not knowing how to pay bills i drove home and i i said to my

00:25:40.280 wife i said i need to focus now i so the thing is there's i'm not going to drink because i need

00:25:46.440 full clarity because i need to figure out a way through this because if i stay healthy if i start

00:25:51.720 drinking and one won't be healthy but not only will i not have the clarity to kind of try to

00:25:56.080 figure through this because it didn't make sense to me jim i think that's where my um

00:26:00.720 you know my uh conservative brain let's call it came into play and i kept saying to myself

00:26:09.900 without the solutions and without some suggestions recommendations and assistance

00:26:15.280 i don't know how this makes sense because i don't know how to shut down and then i don't know what

00:26:21.060 to say to the banks i don't know what to say to the landlords i don't know what to say to

00:26:24.800 my staff i don't know what to say to my family so i had no answers so i'm sitting there and i have

00:26:29.780 no answers to any of the questions all these people looking at me because for you know if if

00:26:35.260 if you um if you uh work in the public or even some private sector businesses that might not

00:26:43.100 concern you because quite frankly you're not uh no one's relying on you so but when you you run

00:26:49.820 businesses and you own businesses there's a lot of people rely on you so think about you have

00:26:54.860 in that case i had 760 people that were looking to me for a solution to their problem because they

00:27:01.340 still had bills to pay they still have bills to pay and they have families to take care of and

00:27:05.900 they you know they have uh mothers and fathers and grandparents so they're trying to figure it

00:27:11.420 all out and they're they're asking me they're saying when can i come back can i come back

00:27:16.140 i need to keep going i i don't have the worth i only have two i have two weeks of monies uh left

00:27:22.540 over for rent and food and this is as far as i can go they don't know when the government's going to

00:27:28.460 kick in so the fear that came with that and that's why i like i said my sobriety at that point came

00:27:35.100 from not having any of those answers but we didn't i still don't have those answers so if it happened

00:27:41.260 today i'd still be in the same boat i'd still be trying to figure it out yeah but okay schools

00:27:49.100 what would their protocol be for elementary schools high schools colleges and universities 0.99

00:27:53.420 because i know our daughters ended up doing school from their bedroom and even our one in university 1.00

00:27:59.980 we didn't get a discount we still have to pay full price right for her tuition even though 0.90

00:28:04.220 she was doing it remotely from her bedroom until she was allowed to go back on campus

00:28:09.340 so this is all things i believe canadians want some answers to and this is actually a good wake

00:28:16.380 up a good slap in the face as canadians wait a sec this look what happened in siberia you can't

00:28:22.940 tell me in a straight face this could never happen again so we have what we feel is a competent

00:28:29.340 government right now who has a huge approval rating and everyone seems to support why not

00:28:34.860 appoint a judge or an ex-politician or someone has a lot of respect to chair a commission come

00:28:41.180 up with a group of people with some answers so there is a template so everyone uh public private

00:28:47.420 businesses schools communities have an idea what to do and what not to do oh i agree i just don't

00:28:53.580 understand but whether it be financial reserves or be stockpiling you know mass and gloves and

00:29:01.660 all the things you need to do do we have a stockpile do the canadians do do we have one i

00:29:06.860 remember that was the issue that was the issue at the beginning of cover we didn't it was all

00:29:10.620 it was still dated we had to throw it all out but do we have one now i have no idea you know right

00:29:16.300 so why wouldn't the government tell us that i do know recently there was an article that

00:29:20.780 that they had to dispose of a bunch of it again that actually had stale dated again yeah because

00:29:26.380 wipes and sanitizer and everything only lasts so long and then you have to produce new stuff

00:29:31.180 new stuff so they they had that again so i the comfort i think that they could give society

00:29:37.260 right now and canadians is where does that sit how does it get dispersed uh all those things but

00:29:45.500 are still not there and i don't know why i don't know why at this point we wouldn't think especially

00:29:50.860 given the when i when i sit there and i looked at alaska and i looked at the yukon and i look

00:29:57.820 at russia and i look at siberia northern bc that new uh pipeline going to northern bc from alberta

00:30:05.420 is just south of alaska yeah that's that's a real threat to the canadian economy and sovereignty if

00:30:12.220 something happens to that well exactly jim so the answer is or the question is right now

00:30:18.540 who so whose response is it not the health minister responsible for it see that's where

00:30:23.740 the prime minister has to kind of nod and say okay you know is it the ministry of health is it

00:30:30.780 that's it now that's a great question i i believe it's this is too much for one minister okay unless

00:30:37.100 prime minister carney feels his current health minister is so good at their job um and um as a

00:30:44.060 right now it's a minister michelle i don't believe i would trust her to have this portfolio all by

00:30:50.460 herself i would appoint a few politicians to like you handle this portfolio but uh i think more than

00:30:57.020 anything paul we we have to be able to look canadians in the eye and say we have a plan

00:31:02.940 we'll protect you but right now they can't do that because they don't have a plan

00:31:07.100 and they can't credibly tell canadians we have a way to protect you well remember remember we

00:31:11.740 were given the color-coded system and remember the interesting part was the communication also

00:31:20.060 every director of health every city health administrator was on the tv telling us protocols

00:31:28.460 was telling us what to do by city it was it was a hodgepodge of message jim so how do we get through

00:31:34.620 that again and not have to deal with poor communication by city being differently by

00:31:40.380 federal by provincial you used to sit there remember the days after you get up in the morning

00:31:46.220 you put on the tv you'd see the uh the city announcement then you'd see the provincial

00:31:52.700 announcement then you see the federal announcement all in one day and you'd be like well paul here's

00:31:58.380 what i remember more than anything this trudeau would meet at the cottage yeah and have his

00:32:05.580 and then people would try to criticize him and the talking heads on all the major networks say

00:32:10.380 wait a sec you can't criticize him because there's no blueprint for this okay i'll give you a little

00:32:15.180 credit because i've never lived through that in my lifetime no you can't use that anymore that's

00:32:20.060 not an excuse anymore that they're they're hat you can't see there's no blueprint how could there not

00:32:25.180 be a blueprint after the country went through this how could we not have one at the ready

00:32:30.460 whomever is prime minister at the time so we're ready as a country well you have to think that

00:32:34.940 would be the end of their career so you have to think if this happened again they'd be oustered

00:32:40.060 very quickly jim because this would be such a faux pas to not have anything in place yeah

00:32:45.340 to screw it up twice they'd be like okay that's enough well the first time everyone got a mulligan

00:32:49.980 right yeah of course like oh hey we've never had this before like okay but it's i mean if it happens

00:32:57.420 within a few years we're talking a decade since covid that's not exactly like long history so

00:33:03.420 there has to be something in place other countries who have had these reviews have developed protocols

00:33:08.700 that are in the in the different levels of government system both overall regionally and

00:33:14.780 municipally that if something happens these are your protocols so if you have protocols for towns

00:33:20.620 and cities and provinces in the country i think as canadians we're like okay we have protocols

00:33:25.740 if this happens we just go to these pages and follow these different guidelines and we're okay

00:33:33.180 why has it happened because what happened in siberia should be a huge wake-up call

00:33:37.980 to everyone in this country and around the world and the confidence i'd get for example in that

00:33:43.340 circumstance i'm talking about mine would be okay we're in a red you know red alert right okay you

00:33:49.340 shut down you do this you follow your playbook you go home this is what you do everyone knows

00:33:54.780 it's actually written into my emergency plan for my business okay all right wait for you know the

00:34:00.620 following communication this is a yellow place yeah it's caution but you need to do this and

00:34:06.300 this and the thing that scared me the other day and especially this was in uh toronto it was in

00:34:11.580 uh and it was interesting we had uh uh tornado and storm alert yes and our first alert system didn't

00:34:20.940 work huh so it kept going off uh prematurely so for the three hours it was beeping all over the

00:34:28.220 place and they're still trying to fix so even for storm alerts we're struggling now so now i'm

00:34:33.820 looking at this and i'm thinking okay if we're struggling with storm alerts still what how what's

00:34:40.220 our chance at actually handling the plague if it hits the mainland and this is where you know

00:34:45.820 mark carney there's been all these stories lately that he doesn't like to delegate he's got a really

00:34:50.380 tight circle of the he's the only people he'll trust and deal with this is a time to delegate

00:34:55.340 to a group all these cabinet ministers and backbenchers who feel like he never talks to me

00:35:01.180 we're going to give you a portfolio we're going to give you a plan you set up a commission

00:35:05.180 bring in and appoint certain judges and neutral people let's get to the bottom of this that's a

00:35:11.540 good good big work project for them you have 50 to 75 people that are on your payroll full time

00:35:17.580 sitting around waiting right now so you should be able to actually grab some ministers create a

00:35:23.080 committee yeah deploy these 75 people put a very very detailed plan in place this is the jim with

00:35:30.280 ai and everything we have going now absolutely the speed with which you should be able to

00:35:35.160 tackle every industry and refine it for a protocol there should be not months but weeks exactly

00:35:42.760 i i like i i don't know and the funny thing is we have so many other issues in canada right now

00:35:48.760 with trump with the economy with this and that and then it's i don't i've not heard a reporter

00:35:54.120 in any of the scrums ask carney these questions i've yet to hear with someone say oh by the way

00:35:59.400 are we going to hold up you know and get and have like a now from now on a protocol like

00:36:04.920 these other countries i've yet to hear anyone say it well the interest the funny part or not funny

00:36:09.960 part of this the terrible part of is again we don't want to be relying on the us but we're

00:36:14.040 waiting for the us to ask russia the questions to get the information back if we don't want to be

00:36:20.920 the same us that's buying diesel from vladimir putin no i'd rather deal with their own self

00:36:27.240 and deal their own house yeah well and you know we talked about that earlier on we're going to

00:36:31.800 talk about in other shows that was bizarre in itself so in the middle of all this quite frankly

00:36:36.760 they decide they're actually going to start doing more business with russia um and there's a i think

00:36:42.440 there's more to it there's more to it than just diesel there's there's a whole power struggle

00:36:48.760 going on here between the eu and ukraine and everything else and but you know it's it's a very

00:36:55.960 complicated scenario but we do know quite frankly with all this going on and now maybe the second

00:37:02.680 person to die of plague in siberia that we are watching our neighbor have close uh business ties

00:37:14.440 now with the country where this is happening so we're hoping we can get the information back

00:37:19.800 through them but we don't know for sure so that to me paul that says we can't rely on them no we

00:37:25.480 we can't why should we wait on them if we can't trust them and rely on them we'll do our own

00:37:30.900 inquiry come up with our own rules as canadians our own protocols if they decide to do something 0.93

00:37:35.840 fine but we can't wait for them now or trust them has china ever admitted to the wuhan labs 0.66

00:37:41.500 no they never will no they never will and so to wait for russia to admit that if this thing's 0.76

00:37:47.140 that's never going to happen if it's caught fire and it's moving through russia right now

00:37:51.220 you know those bodies will be disappearing we'll be the last to know well when it hits when it when

00:37:56.700 it leaves russia and lands somewhere else we'll know exactly but that's what more than ever so

00:38:02.100 this is this is this is nothing to do government conspiracy this is nothing to do what you think

00:38:08.720 of the government this is the base human right as a canadian to be protected and and safe and that's

00:38:16.460 one of the main goals of any level of government is to protect their citizens

00:38:20.540 and having a game plan for something like this as you said if there are if there is a

00:38:26.060 tornado warning there are protocols in place what you do if there's a warning for weather blizzard

00:38:33.100 all these different climate emergencies we have a protocol in place for it but nothing yet for this

00:38:38.460 we talked about it on some defense shows jim you know the military they have lots of protocols

00:38:45.180 everything's a protocol a lot of the protocols were left in the dust when

00:38:49.580 covet happened yeah they decided you know they weren't going to follow them they were so it got

00:38:53.340 to the point where everyone was just you know when i mentioned you know the the political heads

00:38:57.980 coming on three times a day yeah at each governmental level it got to the point where

00:39:02.700 that's all we were falling yeah so we're just like okay let's just watch them so which which

00:39:07.900 great for them they became sort of you know more celebrities i guess they increased their celebrity

00:39:15.260 well doug ford was championed as captain canada at one point wasn't he yeah but you know it's that's

00:39:20.380 not what it's all about right you know it's not you don't you don't need covid to actually help

00:39:25.420 people become celebrities you know you need to deal with the problem and keep people safe and

00:39:31.980 and we're still struggling it's it to me if you and i talk about this we scratch your head and

00:39:38.260 it seems like such a simple thing to do like hey let's get an inquiry let's break it down

00:39:45.140 let's lay it all out for all canadians to see i don't understand the delay or i mean i don't see

00:39:51.340 it happening this calendar year even with the scare in siberia but this we're in october it's

00:39:56.200 not happening this calendar year no so I always say government cycles Jim so yeah right now we're

00:40:02.260 in the fall you probably you're gonna go uh one more month a little over one more month a month

00:40:08.620 and a half so by the first week of December they're gonna shut down it'll slow down you know

00:40:12.640 it'll slow down to a crawl quite frankly they'll start getting ready for Christmas they'll start

00:40:17.200 to disappear you know by the 10th or or sooner they'll stay out till you know February March

00:40:24.460 yeah february depending on when they call the session back yeah yeah they'll stay out in february

00:40:29.740 they'll get back march april another break part of may where there'll be a break in the middle

00:40:36.300 then basically we're into summer so if it hasn't started now right you're lucky to catch it for

00:40:43.820 next fall right so if you started today so if something like this catches wind in the middle

00:40:50.540 through a winter which is the likely time for it to catch we're unprepared again so we missed the

00:40:57.980 whole we missed the whole government cycle to jump on and so fingers crossed yeah exactly that this

00:41:04.860 is nothing but you know you hope should be not a business strategy or a strategy for governments or

00:41:11.500 health right i just find it interesting that it's not just us here tpl media it's other media outlets

00:41:17.420 are starting to say hey wait a second well russia yeah wait a second so um when in doubt canadians

00:41:25.340 have the right to email their member of parliament no matter where you live they have an email

00:41:30.140 address it's accessible to everyone send an email saying why and just ask them just bring if enough

00:41:36.620 people email their members of parliament and the questions are raised in the house of commons maybe

00:41:42.460 something starts i mean that's democracy at its most base function i know i am yeah absolutely

00:41:48.380 thanks jim thanks paul

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