True Patriot Love - October 17, 2025


Canada's World Cup Moment: Are We Ready?


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Canadians went so long without a World Cup appearance that many wondered if it would ever happen again. Between 1986 and 2022, the Canadian men s national soccer team suffered a world cup drought that many thought would never end. It ended in 2022 with the arrival of Alfonso Davies and Team Canada, and will be taken to the next level in 2026 when the World Cup comes to Vancouver and Toronto.

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00:00:00.000 between 1986 and 2022 the canadian men's national soccer team suffered a world cup drought that a
00:00:21.660 lot of people thought would never end it ended in 2022 in cutter with alfonso davies and team
00:00:26.600 canada and will be taken to the next level in 2026 when the world cup comes to toronto and
00:00:32.900 vancouver thrilled to be joined by my man mike witson mike how are you good jimmy how's it going
00:00:37.080 good i because canada went so long without a world cup appearance there is a lot of uh what i call
00:00:44.580 niche diehard soccer fans there are pockets of soccer fans across the country who are passionate
00:00:51.560 it maybe doesn't have the global appeal the national appeal of say our national hockey team
00:00:58.760 on the world stage but it's about to happen because whether canada is ready or not prepare for
00:01:05.440 millions of people to come to this country in june and july of next year in southern ontario in the
00:01:10.820 lower mainland of bc for the world cup uh you know it's so funny you said just it's a very niche
00:01:15.840 historically in canada it's kind of a niche fan thing and i kind of i remember my friends from
00:01:20.580 high school who were british or irish or or even italian i grew up in a predominantly italian
00:01:25.820 neighborhood soccer's everything yeah they were following games i didn't even know where these
00:01:29.880 places were right uh you know manchester and puglia and all of these towns and stuff so to me it was
00:01:36.920 actually kind of a uh an exotic game in the sense that it was played in all of these parts of the
00:01:42.960 world but it was kind of strange to me growing up here in canada hockey was the thing softball uh curling
00:01:49.600 i can't believe i added that curling is huge out west okay but it's a huge sport i haven't done it
00:01:54.540 rodeo's huge too i don't think i'll ever do it but all of that kind of uh usurped really uh my
00:02:01.540 knowledge of soccer until recent years yes why is that why has world cup become so prominent now in
00:02:07.780 canada there's a a couple of reasons i'll start with the demographics of the country has changed
00:02:12.640 dramatically since the last time really canada was a world cup team in 86 now there's been a recent
00:02:20.260 revolution in the last decade with canada's international soccer power and it's a byproduct
00:02:26.200 of more population more diverse population right the growth of youth soccer has exploded across the
00:02:33.100 country quite frankly it's cheaper and safer than a lot of other sports a lot of families so all of a
00:02:38.520 sudden the talent base to choose from for canadian soccer has gone from this to this right and you
00:02:44.480 are looking at young canadian men and women playing on international teams around the world because of
00:02:49.760 their skill level and now when team canada and jesse march the coach picks his players he's picking
00:02:55.680 elite players playing in elite teams around the world like alfonso davies which is an elite level
00:03:00.700 player and canadian from edmonton that's wild because and it's true i mean i i had a recent
00:03:06.460 opportunity to to hang out with the guys from uh ontario soccer wow it's 500 000 kids across the
00:03:14.960 province playing soccer and that's just ontario that's just ontario and and the development
00:03:19.640 system they've built in to get these kids into university with scholarships and from scholarships
00:03:23.580 to international play it's part of our athletic programming here in canada now i remember being in
00:03:29.780 humber college and canada was in the world cup in 86 and that was the famous world cup with
00:03:35.140 diego maradona and i thought this is great but then year after year they would fail in qualifying
00:03:40.200 and i would get my hopes up and i remember craig forest and team can in the early 2000s they had
00:03:46.240 they had a glimpse they had a good running at the gold cup and it was just soccer fans of canada
00:03:51.680 all of a sudden in world cup time would cheer for maybe they had relatives who immigrated and it was
00:03:58.620 all sudden you were cheering for italy or argentina or scotland or whatever country maybe had roots from
00:04:04.260 that was their team but then in 2022 things changed canada qualified they played they played
00:04:09.960 respectively and now as a host team they're back there in 2026 and they'll be playing on a home soil
00:04:16.580 it wasn't that long ago mike that was unheard of to think that team canada would have the men's soccer
00:04:22.320 team in the fifa world cup playing in vancouver and toronto no it actually does feel uh like we're in
00:04:28.300 the matrix a little bit yeah and in fact one of the things you you pointed out that's really cool
00:04:34.080 to me is that we hit the international stage way more impressively than i i assumed we would once
00:04:40.620 again not a huge soccer fan and i look at it from sort of a cultural perspective where everybody for
00:04:46.860 all these years was wearing all these soccer jerseys and things like the flags in your car and
00:04:51.840 everything oh my oh my god yeah if you lived in vaughn yeah it didn't matter you know the the world
00:04:57.800 cup kind of gone three or four different ways and you were still going to get flags honking there was
00:05:02.800 a real festive spirit to it but it was never with canada's uh team in mind well no because they were
00:05:09.300 never part of they were not part of it for 36 years do you think it's hard for some people to let go
00:05:13.620 of their heritage team to now and always canada as a matter of fact mike it'll be fascinating so the
00:05:19.060 world cup draw will take place friday december 5th and when i say the draw there's 40 countries
00:05:25.280 involved in the world cup okay and they pull the names out of the hat and they go group a it's canada
00:05:30.840 it's argentina it's you know and they name the countries so they pick all the countries for all
00:05:38.180 the groups to determine how the playdowns are going to go and what you'll find is depending on who
00:05:44.000 canada plays the first canadian game is june 12th at bemo field in toronto and
00:05:49.060 and say canada is playing italy well i tell you what there'll be a lot of italian canadians
00:05:55.080 will be really torn who to cheer for or they're playing germany or they're playing you name the
00:05:59.060 country yeah because we're such a diverse country now there will be some you know we'll be torn 1.00
00:06:05.260 jeez i i want canada to win but yeah but you know but this could actually this could be good for
00:06:10.200 canada then because this could be that moment where sorry sorry uh italy or sorry argentina i have to
00:06:17.700 leave you behind i love you but now my guys are in in the play yeah and you know of the last four
00:06:26.180 or five years the ascension of canada as an international soccer team and the games they've
00:06:32.020 won the qualifying games the tournaments they played in the level of play and the reaction to
00:06:37.580 the fans there are now diehard knowledgeable loyal team canada fans who are traveling around the
00:06:45.420 world to support them with their drums and their flags and their scarves and all of a sudden it's
00:06:51.260 become like seeing canadian hockey jerseys when team canada is playing in the world juniors in helsinki
00:06:56.560 now you're seeing that with soccer we've got representation out there representation money behind
00:07:02.880 them um years of passion for soccer and now their country the beloved maple leaf is going to be
00:07:09.800 something they can cheer for and this is something very special here we are in the fall of 2025 and
00:07:16.520 we're still thinking a few months ahead but as we get closer in the calendar especially with the world
00:07:21.080 cup draw especially when you'll see canada what group they're in what countries we're playing then
00:07:27.000 things are going to be taken to another level you know one of the things that i think has popped up on
00:07:32.120 my uh radar in the news has been what we have to do from an infrastructure standpoint i think one of the major
00:07:38.520 major stories in the world cup in canada were kind of new and now we're already hosting yeah and we're
00:07:46.760 hosting in cities that are very far apart um and building facilities that need to house an enormous
00:07:56.680 amount of people it it is going to be a big pressure on you know hotels and it's it'll be a great boon of
00:08:05.000 course of course i mean i think i read someplace 1.2 billion gdp boost for canada easy is what we're
00:08:10.920 expecting and 35 uh 3500 almost you know 3600 new jobs just from this world cup now i'm assuming those
00:08:19.560 are temporary jobs a lot of course but think about the the layers of infrastructure going into just
00:08:26.120 toronto at bmo field hosting world cup games part of that is a rehabilitation of the gardner expressway
00:08:32.440 for people never been to toronto it's the major east west expressway along the southern part of
00:08:37.800 downtown it's unaffectionately known by all as the gardner depressway it's it's horrible the raised
00:08:43.080 highway however at one time they didn't think the rehabilitation and infrastructure construction
00:08:49.560 yeah would be done in time for the world cup and i'll give doug ford to the interior government credit
00:08:55.720 they threw in hundreds of millions of dollars to allow the city of toronto to work around the clock
00:09:01.640 so now they'll be done months ahead of time because you can't have lanes closed on highways
00:09:07.240 around bmo field for the world cup because what's going to happen the capacity will be 45 000 there'll
00:09:14.200 be another 20 30 40 000 fans of that respective country around exhibition place around downtown
00:09:21.720 toronto and vancouver cheering on their their country their team wait pause the world cup for a
00:09:27.320 second if doug ford gives the city money they can work around the clock and get the roads done is what
00:09:35.320 i just heard yeah they just did nick did i just hear that it is possible yes oh okay forget the world
00:09:41.640 cup we need to focus on this alone around the clock we can get this done finally once and for all well
00:09:47.160 and a lot of people are saying the same thing mike like why is it that this highway and that roadway
00:09:51.800 and this subway track and this streetcar track has taken so long but to the ontario government the
00:09:58.040 federal government's credit they realize the world is coming to canada the world is going to be
00:10:03.480 watching two our two biggest cities so that i know the internal government did the right thing and threw
00:10:08.920 hundreds of millions of dollars there to make sure that the lakeshore the gardener that they're all done
00:10:14.600 that they're they're going to make sure planning right now with metrolink and the ttc there are no
00:10:20.440 weekend subway closures during world cup games they can't have it some of the weird uh uh paranoias
00:10:27.720 we're having already about hosting this include one thing that i know i went to take a look at this
00:10:33.720 gym and i have to be honest with you i've never been to bmo field for any event yeah i've driven by it
00:10:39.320 on it's a great stadium it looks beautiful it is it's a beautiful it looks beautiful i mean it looks like
00:10:43.720 you know you could die of heat stroke in the middle of summer and it's completely useless in winter but
00:10:49.240 that's that's a different point they have to double the size of this uh facility essentially it currently
00:10:56.440 seats how many um they're basically going from uh 30 and change they're adding 17 000 temporary seats
00:11:04.280 to bring it up to 45 000 so they essentially have to double the size of this building yeah have you
00:11:10.040 seen the construction process or the progress on this so far it's fascinating so right now they've
00:11:15.000 added four video screens which are nine meters by 15 meters and what's 28 feet by 47 feet massive video
00:11:25.320 screens on the four corners of the stadium so no matter where you are in the stadium you can see
00:11:31.640 everything replays commercials and whatnot they're adding 10 000 seats to one end of the stadium and
00:11:39.320 7 000 to the other and sort of temporary seats so like you see at the rogers stadium concert facility
00:11:46.280 downsview park or you see at any kind of big festival concert festival they they've got it down to science
00:11:52.120 it's almost like a meccano set if that makes sense of temporary seats that go up and it'll envelop the
00:11:58.600 stadium to the permanent structure that's there right now to meet the minimum requirement by fifa
00:12:03.320 45 000 seats so i take a look at reddit last night which is my number one source
00:12:09.640 uh and there's a little section in there the guys that are people that are working on this facility
00:12:14.280 and like they're all just saying not it's never going to happen in time it's never going to happen
00:12:18.440 in time and i went by the facility jim i'm not a construction guy they've got a lot to do in a really
00:12:24.280 short time and i'm glad you brought that up according to fifa rules when fifa stages the world
00:12:31.400 cup no matter what country the stadiums that are hosting the games no matter what country in the
00:12:36.760 world one month before the game you hand over control of that stadium from the team in the city
00:12:43.240 to fifa so by may 12th of 2026 fifa takes over control abemo field to the end of the world cup
00:12:51.080 and that means fifa staff fifa signage because we're talking multiple languages so whatever
00:12:57.320 language country is playing i hope you can bring some construction uh skills and uh yeah it just
00:13:05.880 so between now and may it's between now and may now the one thing i mean this looks like we are going
00:13:11.400 to i mean a couple of things sorry no no i'm sorry no no mike please i show respect this is my
00:13:18.120 i think that uh one of the things that got me when i went by was it really looks unstarted like
00:13:26.920 it looks like between now and may it will take a miracle i know it i will say this the the construction
00:13:34.120 engineering technology of building that many temporary seats is light years better than it
00:13:39.400 was even five years ago look how fast they put up 50 000 temporary seats for the concert facility at
00:13:45.960 downswood park in toronto i'm gonna be amazed that's my point i'm gonna be when it's done i
00:13:50.440 know look i'm gonna be amazed you're not the only one mike you're you're not speaking you know out of
00:13:56.200 your hat and i will be so proud if we pull this off i will be so proud that toronto could work day
00:14:01.560 night to fix a road we needed fixed for 30 years and to get a stadium done that we'll never use again
00:14:07.400 we have to understand bmo field is done bmo field is a great permanent stadium they're just adding
00:14:13.160 temporary seats to each each end of it so the current structure that structure then will go
00:14:18.680 away the extra seats yeah so the extra seats will be taken away it's no different than a massive what
00:14:25.160 are we going to do with those extra seats they could use uh the honda indy markham right okay so they're
00:14:30.920 going to repurpose oh yeah all of they'll go to a big festival in the prairies or a big concert that's
00:14:36.280 being so that's the beauty thing is basically they go on tractor trailer flatbeds and they can set
00:14:41.240 them up and take them to different parts of the country you you heard it here first it's a beauty
00:14:46.360 thing nothing could be more canadian than my good friend jim lang saying it's a beauty thing because
00:14:52.040 if it is a beauty thing that's such a great canadian phrase yeah man we're in good shape because this
00:14:57.880 could open up the world of uh of sports in canada and other ways well look it just seems like so much
00:15:05.560 jim mike this has been a dream for a lot of people in this country not just soccer fans but
00:15:12.120 the city fathers and sisters of toronto and vancouver for a lot of levels of politicians a lot
00:15:17.240 of volunteers to bring a world cup soccer match to canada so to think that toronto and vancouver are
00:15:23.720 hosting world cup soccer matches with team canada was a dream that was not even possible not that long
00:15:30.760 ago this is a huge thing look what vancouver did with the 2010 olympics look how amazing that was
00:15:36.680 people pissed all over the pan am games in 2015 they turned out great in those facilities like the
00:15:43.000 mark and pan am center like one of them in saint catharines is remarkable incredible yeah the velodrome
00:15:48.280 the swimming pools all of those facilities will train athletes for decades okay but there dude there
00:15:54.600 is this other side of that right we have these white elephant stadiums that it's called the big
00:16:01.080 o in montreal i've been there many times well i mean even right here bmo fields like i say it's usable
00:16:06.120 for a very short period of time i mean let's say okay bmo field is used for the argos it's used for tfc
00:16:13.160 it's used for international women's and men's soccer it's snowing it's done no they play they basically
00:16:18.440 play right until december so they play from april until december who does soccer who the the national
00:16:26.840 teams and tfc until when they basically go from april to december early to december yeah so one team
00:16:35.160 no no you have multiple teams you have tfc okay once one sport and football the argos and the argos are
00:16:41.480 done when november november and then and then it basically so what i'm saying is it is an underutilized
00:16:47.960 facility there's no two ways about compared to a roof facility correct so we live in a country where
00:16:54.040 we kind of need to think in those terms don't we now you bring up a good point that is why bc place
00:17:01.800 will host more games than bmo field in toronto right for a couple of reasons it's got 15 000 more seats
00:17:09.160 it's got more capacity it has a roof it is hosted big events before and it's proven that before so
00:17:17.800 what will happen for canadian soccer fans and soccer fans in general in canada bmo field in
00:17:23.240 toronto gets one team canada game that's june 12th then it's other countries playing each other then
00:17:28.920 it's around a 32 game taking place on july 2nd bc place gets two games for team canada and around a 32
00:17:38.200 and around a 16 game and then they go to even bigger stadiums in the usa and mexico when they get to the
00:17:43.800 the semifinals and finals okay let's talk about the impact on these cities well so well it seems
00:17:51.480 positive right 1.2 billion in gdp i think how much is it going to cost us to do this in total oh i don't
00:17:58.520 have the number off the top of my head but i do know that the previous mayor in toronto john tory
00:18:05.080 the locked toronto into a deal that will cost the city a lot of money hey nick can you do me a favor and
00:18:10.840 see if you can yes please nick i just forget the exact number how much it's going to cost
00:18:14.840 toronto to host the world cup it is significant and basically there's no way the city could get out
00:18:22.120 of it the way the contract was written so toronto's committed to it i mean i know that it started early
00:18:28.600 days at what sounded like 80 million dollars it's way past that and i and i have a feeling now that the
00:18:33.720 city's getting close to 600 million dollars in uh commitment now okay that's all good and and i don't
00:18:40.040 and i don't have any problem seeing us spend money to host something globally but this kind of feels
00:18:46.360 oh you got a number there nicky yes uh the total cost of planning and hosting the uh world cup in
00:18:52.440 toronto includes 236.4 million in operating costs and 143.6 million in capital costs totaling 380 million
00:19:01.720 380 million and then what was can we find out what it's going to cost combined with vancouver
00:19:07.080 because this is this is a thing i think that it's good that it leaves uh some legacy stuff here but
00:19:13.480 we're only adding temporary stadiums so we're not leaving legacy facilities bc place is is a full stadium
00:19:19.960 that's been there for decades bmo field still going to be there they're only taking away the temporary
00:19:24.920 seats i understand but we're not getting anything legacy left behind that we can use as a facility well
00:19:31.240 the legacy is not like saying olympic games or pandem games the legacy is canada as a soccer
00:19:38.680 nation the legacy is toronto and vancouver and canada hosting international events not just sports
00:19:46.040 arts cultural political the ability that for years what have we heard toronto is a world-class city
00:19:52.520 vancouver is a world-class city we are showing the world what these two magnificent cities in canada
00:19:58.280 are all about right now vancouver is under the most pressure for crime homelessness drugs on the
00:20:05.480 street are we really going to be showing the best face to the world toronto currently the the traffic
00:20:11.560 situation we're going to add all of this congestion to a city that already can't handle it no matter what
00:20:17.240 we do with the gardener do we have enough uh hotel rooms i've heard that there's a deficit
00:20:23.160 in vancouver alone of over 50 000 room nights so that no that is okay nick's got an update nick's
00:20:29.880 got an update okay so none of the numbers combined but uh so a headline from british columbia this is
00:20:35.480 in june saying that uh hosting the 2026 fifa world cup games could cost up to 624 million uh says the bc
00:20:43.640 government now the uh the cost will be offset by 448 million to 478 million of estimated revenues and
00:20:50.200 recoveries right well assumed so that's the risk so here's let's paint the scenario the first game
00:20:56.840 for canada is friday june 12th at bmo field canada verse we'll find out december 5th the fans aren't
00:21:03.480 arriving that day they'll arrive in the week hotels flights uber taxis restaurants bars and pubs and it's
00:21:14.040 not just the fans in the stadium it's the fans coming and they'll be there all weekend and then there's
00:21:19.480 another game and then another game and another game think the round of 32 match at bmo field is
00:21:24.600 thursday july 2nd well canada day you've got canada day as a national holiday people will be there the
00:21:29.960 whole last weekend of june up until the match i feel very badly because it sounds like i'm
00:21:33.480 poo-pooing and i'm also very excited i think it'll be great but i have to temper it yeah i am worried a
00:21:38.840 little bit about it and and i have to be i want to temper it with excitement because i want you to know
00:21:42.840 that i'm excited a that we are hosting this that canada's represented yeah all of that to me is so
00:21:49.240 fantastic right i do worry that sometimes canada we jump in where we're not rich enough to do
00:21:55.080 something yeah we'll host the party come on guys you just you just join you just showed up at high
00:22:00.440 school and you're going to host the party i don't know dude there's a couple things at play there that
00:22:05.000 canada's always wanted to play the big boys yes but when all this was being decided when all this was
00:22:11.160 a joint with mexico the usa and canada the economy and the world was much different
00:22:16.280 right this wasn't just this just didn't happen when did this get planned this has been a years
00:22:21.560 in the making yeah and that that is part of it as well now like canada entered the fifa world and
00:22:29.560 and through our our name in the ring right away saying listen we want to be one of the one so we
00:22:34.840 wanted this is a unique thing where there's games in mexico the usa and canada this is what we have to
00:22:41.400 understand as canadians historically anytime we go to host something it's canadian nature to
00:22:47.400 to try to it's not going to work it's not going to work no okay i don't want to be that guy no but
00:22:51.400 but it's true canadians do that a lot and then it happens yeah and then we see a headline from a paper
00:22:57.000 in england or south america or in tokyo they're like oh my do you see what they're saying about us
00:23:02.440 yeah that's such a canadian thing and then they come away going wow i'd like to come back here i'd like to
00:23:08.040 come back and vacation here i'd like to come back and spend money here look how great it is look at
00:23:12.840 the city look at the toronto island look at the lake shore look at the downtown i can eat any kind
00:23:18.040 of food in the world at a gourmet restaurant right here in toronto i didn't know that somebody pointed
00:23:23.320 something out to me about the restaurants during world cup this is a bubble a financial bubble yes
00:23:30.040 so for five weeks around that bubble uh inside that bubble restaurants will thrive and they will grow
00:23:37.640 and everything however we're in a situation if you've driven around downtown where some of your
00:23:41.320 favorite restaurants no longer exist post-covid so what we're expecting is in the retail market for
00:23:47.560 stores to open that aren't open restaurants to be there that aren't there currently and then we're
00:23:52.200 asking our city to open new venues and new things and be prepared for this bubble so i ask you do you
00:24:01.400 think fifa is out there taking some risks over the last number of world cups they seem to be am i wrong
00:24:09.560 about this no i i i will finish your all i well it just seems to me that fifa is like okay they must be
00:24:16.200 at this point saying no no fifa makes their money i'm sure they make no no i i understand what you're
00:24:22.120 saying fifa like the mob they'll get bleepity bleep paid jim watch your mouth okay fifa will make bank
00:24:29.400 fifa will make their money the officials will get gourmet meals and five-star hotels yeah they make
00:24:35.640 their money there's that's a guaranteed thing with the the world cup the global ratings the revenue
00:24:43.720 with the people coming from around the world the international media that's another thing we're
00:24:48.520 going to have a spotlight on exactly so a spotlight on canada that to some parts of the world we look a
00:24:55.480 little there's no you asked what are we going to do like this and that do you know that in super
00:25:01.320 bowl cities what a common thing is what they will take all the homeless and all the addicts and round 1.00
00:25:06.760 them up and bus them to motels outside of the city during the event do you know that i wonder what the
00:25:12.040 city's paying for that because i do have a sizable lot i think uh that's that's disturbing to me but
00:25:19.480 you're right i mean it happened it happens and by the way that happened here in canada in an olympic
00:25:26.200 host city and it's been going on for years that when there's a problem on the streets they're cleared
00:25:31.640 out put on a bus and then everyone comes back afterwards so now we have this and we during the g7
00:25:37.480 summit yes we you know we cleaned up that 400 like oh i know that we'll put a spit polish on as many 0.95
00:25:43.560 things as we can but the truth is if it starts to crack and crumble canadians aren't going to
00:25:51.080 ignore that and say oh we're happy to do this you're right we'll be the first ones to go well 0.98
00:25:55.080 we told you we told you you and your fifa the world you and your damn fifa jim the one thing i 0.96
00:26:01.160 i'm going to give toronto and ontario and canada the benefit of the doubt they will have opp and rcmp 0.98
00:26:09.400 and army reserves and plainclothes officers and you'll have security from the respective countries
00:26:16.200 and military and paramilitary from the respective countries they'll be protecting that soccer team
00:26:21.880 like it's part of their national identity don't kid yourself the level of really oh yes oh yes they
00:26:28.040 they will there will be plainclothes detectives from all the countries hovering around where the
00:26:33.560 players may go to eat or or drink or go to a nightclub so will they actually cordon off areas
00:26:39.400 if of the city that are safe spaces for the players to be that might be something they do oh
00:26:45.480 that's really cool the level of security for some of these countries is pretty intense and i've seen
00:26:51.640 it at big sporting events where they have plainclothes detectives going around to different places
00:26:58.040 different nightclubs and different bars and restaurants it whether or not they have a bad
00:27:02.840 reputation or not looking to see if there's someone there to make sure they're not getting into trouble
00:27:07.080 i think you hit it on the head when you when you pointed out that okay look there's certain
00:27:11.720 trepidation uh i'm i'm representing the the people out there that are somewhat skeptical a little bit
00:27:17.960 worried you're not alone but i think that it's and you pointed out something interesting at the time
00:27:22.600 we did this deal the world was different right now that makes me think okay canada let's just be
00:27:29.560 careful because things change let's not be promising that we'll do this and do that with our money
00:27:34.840 at a time where you and i just discovered on a show recently we pay eight hundred dollars more
00:27:40.120 by uh per household just to groceries for basic food so we kind of need to think these things through
00:27:47.720 yes we do want to be part of the international fifa uh soccer stage yes of course and we want to
00:27:53.640 succeed we want our soccer players to rise i think we have to temper that a bit with we want to host the
00:27:59.400 party it's basically mike i understand what you're saying and there's a lot of people who feel the
00:28:04.760 same way and have valid arguments but it's the the horse is out of the barn right it's too late yeah
00:28:10.040 like this is happening the all the contracts are signed the renovations are underway the preparations
00:28:17.800 are underway already airbnb prices for next june and july in toronto and vancouver are through the roof
00:28:24.120 okay hotel prices second our way through the roof by the way there's a house available
00:28:30.040 there so they know that people will come from around the world they know they're going to be
00:28:34.040 able to make some money for a lot of these bars and restaurants a lot of these nightclubs it's a
00:28:38.520 chance to get back to pre-pandemic times pre-pandemic revenue streams get back to maybe a pre-pandemic
00:28:45.320 way of life where a lot of people gather in downtown toronto downtown vancouver and have basically a
00:28:50.520 sort of a soccer international festival there's nothing wrong with that i have great hope in my
00:28:56.120 heart jim to be honest let's let's be positive we're going to be positive there's nothing to
00:29:01.960 worry about right now we'll find out the draw friday december 5th which is broadcast around the world
00:29:08.200 and unfortunately donald trump's going to be part of it and they're going to be drawing the countries
00:29:12.280 we'll find out who canada's going to play we'll find out what other countries are going to be playing
00:29:16.680 the stadium without a roof it gets very cold here i find it very cold i don't say it's cold
00:29:20.680 many people say it's cold i'm from new york i know it's cold and then we will see as we drive around
00:29:25.640 downtown toronto uh slowly but surely the it looks like a giant meccano set of the temporary seats
00:29:31.880 being built around the existing structure that is people you say meccano set no that's what it's going
00:29:37.320 to look like it really does look like it's going to be built that way yeah and in early may the
00:29:42.280 basically handover control of the bemo field and bc plays to fifa and before you know it it's going
00:29:47.880 to be here now all of us going on the world cup the blue jays are going to still be down the road at
00:29:53.960 rogers center there's still going to be concerts at budweiser stage and scotia bank arena there's still
00:30:00.120 going to be arts and life and everything happening in the city it'll be impossible to drive into toronto
00:30:08.360 or into vancouver from mid-june to mid-july next year it won't happen you'll have to take some sort
00:30:14.920 of transit or train or go train there's no other way to get into the city so here's how i think you
00:30:19.560 handle it if you live in toronto or vancouver you you put your airbnb up now and you start you know
00:30:25.320 what get your friends bidding against it as well you know get a little bidding war going and uh at that
00:30:30.440 point you you book your trip to any of the participating countries in the world cup that you wanted to see as
00:30:37.160 they're emptying themselves out to come to uh toronto or vancouver and you use your airbnb money
00:30:43.400 to go and see the world now the money man that he is paul micucci i know he's already thinking wait a
00:30:48.520 sec there are literally hundreds of empty condos in downtown toronto walking distance i can't believe
00:30:56.360 you just said this hundreds you could take the elevator from your airbnb condo and get down and
00:31:03.560 walk the bimo field nick don't lie to me did you also have the thought that our buddy paul is
00:31:07.960 thinking how do i do the you know he is you know he is you know he is and for all the angst and hand
00:31:14.520 wringing for real estate people in the city this could save them basically renting out their condo
00:31:20.520 for june and july of next year for people as a just a hub to stay to live and party there'll be
00:31:27.480 journalists staying there organizers security you mind signing over the rights to me to your garage
00:31:35.080 wait a second my garage is full of racks of stuff for my kids i could barely walk in there okay you
00:31:40.520 know what we're gonna have to do some cleaning but i do think we have an airbnb plan yeah but this is
00:31:45.240 this is where a lot of people have to understand that it's renting out empty condos that can't sell
00:31:51.400 making some revenue there okay but let's do this it's re it's rehabilitating and reviving bars and
00:31:57.320 restaurants and nightclubs okay but let's not what let's have let's have some transparency as we go
00:32:03.480 okay let's get some projections on what real projections and what we can do here let's have
00:32:07.400 some accountability once it's done let's do this properly toronto and vancouver let's take a look at
00:32:14.200 what happened let's really be honest about the numbers let's be honest about the the potential
00:32:19.800 problems and let's solve them together i and i couldn't agree more we july 19th is the the
00:32:25.800 championship game for the world cup of 2026 it will take let's be serious a couple months of accounting
00:32:31.800 to break down the numbers to understand what what side of the ledger that toronto and vancouver on
00:32:38.440 where they in the black did they make some money after all of this but it's more than just the money
00:32:43.080 made in 2026 did we make enough of his impression as a city as a province as a country
00:32:49.560 for bc for ontario for vancouver and toronto that all these people that came from around
00:32:54.120 the world will say i want to come back visit vacation spend my money there again that's
00:32:59.560 a big part of it ohala from your mouth to god's ears buddy let's hope that it goes that way i i'm
00:33:06.360 i can't wait i'm still trying to find a way to get tickets to one of the games
00:33:10.360 um i have friends and family give me do you have uh if you have some cash on your ticket down payment
00:33:16.120 right now yeah what's that mean what i need is i just need like a quick down payment when the
00:33:20.840 tickets are printed i'll deliver them you pay the balance but this is going to be good for canada
00:33:26.680 good for the cities involved good for everyone and i i know right now there's a lot of canadians
00:33:33.080 refusing to travel to america i get it because of the 51st state and the stuff with trump
00:33:38.200 what if canada goes to a quarterfinal and it's held in chicago or it's held in
00:33:45.560 metlife stadium in new jersey there's going to be a huge contingent canadian fans who'll say
00:33:50.920 i'm going to break my rule i'm going down to cheer on team canada yeah we don't know that they won't
00:33:55.240 go to a quarterfinal game we don't know that they're not going to be playing one of those big stadiums
00:33:59.240 how do fifa fans by the way i want to ask this and i forgot sorry i know you you probably got things to
00:34:03.560 do with your day no i i got all the time in the world for you mike jimmy i want to say thank you for
00:34:07.560 talking me through my paranoia about this because i'm so not knowledgeable on it but uh one of the
00:34:12.520 things that i did want to know is uh how are fifa fans feeling about this being a north america wide
00:34:17.560 spread of games it seems like well that's two of the things that i thought about was
00:34:23.320 oh wow we had a lot of smoke in the air in all of these areas courtesy of our on unstoppable fire
00:34:29.720 in canada right and also travel for these games seems like it almost this almost seems like a
00:34:36.920 coordination nightmare logistically it is a challenge and minutes after the world cup draw december 5th
00:34:45.160 plans will be starting to be made because the fans and the organizers and the teams and the
00:34:50.520 officials and everyone the traveling circus that goes with all these countries to these different
00:34:55.320 world cup cities will start making their plans right now i'm going to be in toronto this day i'm
00:35:00.280 going to be in philadelphia this day then i go to san francisco then i go to mexico city it'll be stuff
00:35:05.320 like that yeah and that's just the reality of it the one thing also that a lot of the cities especially
00:35:13.240 toronto and vancouver have to prepare themselves game day first game canada versus name the country
00:35:19.000 friday june 12th those fans of that city will get up at 6 6 30 and start pounding drinks
00:35:24.920 right then for a game that'll start usually in the afternoon because fifa likes their games to be
00:35:30.120 broadcast in europe about 8 p.m okay so say the match is 2 p.m local time so it's broadcast prime
00:35:38.200 time in europe on a friday night and that's one thing bars and restaurants will be open for breakfast
00:35:43.640 with full taps of beer and shots and you name it oh it's it's this i'm starting to like the sound of
00:35:50.040 this more and more jim keep going it is it is a global festival and people will have female bacon 0.54
00:35:55.400 start serving at 3 a.m okay i'm starting to like you know like the minor uh the hikers in the dark
00:36:00.520 with a little helmet where they're flipping the backpack i like it i think honestly i think it'll be a
00:36:06.280 great deal of fun i'm as a as a proud canadian i think it's going to be great for the country 0.59
00:36:11.720 it's great for everyone and i know we have concerns you're silly not to have concerns you have to
00:36:16.680 be realistic well we let things happen jim let's be honest a lot of a lot of things go awry financially
00:36:22.440 anything north of a of 100 million dollars we tend to just let things happen with that money but mike
00:36:28.040 sometimes you need to spend some money to make some money hey this is what i say to people and
00:36:33.080 by spending a little money by rebuilding the infrastructure by cleaning things up by preparing
00:36:40.360 things you're not just benefiting toronto vancouver and canada in 2026 it could be a benefit for
00:36:46.040 years to come there could be future big events a future influx of tourists because the the walls
00:36:52.440 the invisible wall between can the u.s eventually is going to drop and there's going to be legions
00:36:56.760 of americans coming here to spend their money because they're making what 30 cents of the dollar
00:37:01.240 right they're making they want to come to toronto why wouldn't they why this is a great excuse to
00:37:06.840 cross-border shop uh live the life absolutely yeah and their dollars going so much further and even some
00:37:13.560 of these countries with the euro they're going to come here oh my goodness they're going to have a
00:37:17.800 field day so this field day see what i did there the world cup he's mike i'm jim go canada go it's
00:37:27.000 going to be a great time thanks jimmy thank you thank you