True Patriot Love - October 05, 2026


Canada’s Election Overload: Do Voters Really Want Change? ft. Anthony Furey

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00:00:00.000 Rob Ford is an example. Obviously, in America, Donald Trump is an example of someone who's just
00:00:04.300 so different than what people had seen in the past. So when you say you want politics done
00:00:08.700 differently, those are people doing things very differently. I gave conservative examples,
00:00:12.580 but there's left-wing examples too of people like AOC or Bernie Sanders who do stuff very different
00:00:18.480 than what the more establishment figures do. So that's kind of what different can mean. Very
00:00:24.400 different. Not just, oh, you're going to decrease taxes by 7%. Well, I'm going to decrease them by
00:00:28.920 7.5. I mean that's that's not different. All right Anthony five votes in five weeks so
00:00:41.060 we're into it now going into October and election time is here so let me run through it with you
00:00:47.460 Quebec October 5th BC municipal October 17th BC provincial October 24th the new snap election that
00:00:56.560 uh premier eb called ontario municipal uh election on october 26 manitoba municipal election on
00:01:04.960 october 28th and pei november 2nd new brunswick of course already had their vote on may 11th and
00:01:14.560 this year and nova scotia's municipal vote was october 24 newfoundland's pc majority was on october
00:01:24.000 14th 2025 alberta's election was in 2025 and saskatchewan in november 24 so so but we're into
00:01:34.300 it we got lots of voting going on in october right i don't know what's it used to be like i look back
00:01:40.560 when i was younger and i think elections were things that only occurred like rarely yeah um you
00:01:45.680 know i guess that's the passage of time when you're a kid or whatnot but maybe it's also social media
00:01:49.740 now we're attentive to the fact we we know there's a bc election going on even though it doesn't it
00:01:54.140 doesn't impact my daily life here in toronto but we're kind of inundated and we almost feel the
00:01:58.220 energy of these elections all across the country these days oh yeah some some stats you know how
00:02:03.260 i love stats 6 663 candidates for about 2 800 positions across 414 municipalities those are
00:02:13.740 are good odds one in three i should have signed up for half those things i was shocked but i'm
00:02:19.740 always shocked 400 acclaimed 104 heads of council and 14 entire councils meaning about five percent
00:02:28.940 of the municipalities will hold no vote yeah so which is interesting so these are just people who
00:02:35.420 walk in no one's contesting the election in their area so it's usually incumbents yeah popular
00:02:41.980 incumbent and someone doesn't want to run against them but uh but yeah happens in all municipalities
00:02:47.100 just by that nomination deadline only one person signed up so oh you don't have to campaign you win
00:02:51.980 yeah turnouts traditionally have fallen so as we talked about on another show the the number
00:02:57.660 of people voted has fallen substantially um and you know that that's no surprise anywhere as we
00:03:04.300 go into this election or these multiple elections across the country a very quick favor before we
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00:03:37.100 you now back to the show so the big ones that we're getting all the highlights so let's talk
00:03:41.900 about them for a minute because then we'll bounce around the country for a few minutes and just we
00:03:46.700 won't hit them all today but i just wanted to highlight a few of course i woke up this morning
00:03:51.900 and the poll that was out from canada pulse insights is still having olivia chow ahead 51
00:03:59.900 to 36 against brad bradford chris alexander still isn't really coming up they're holding
00:04:06.300 at about nine percent um and then the others are at seven percent the other one millions of other
00:04:12.220 people who put their name in but but yeah so it looks like that is tightening up a little but
00:04:17.660 not a lot yeah you know in in mayoral elections and in toronto traditionally there's a massive
00:04:23.420 incumbent advantage there's there's not really examples of an incumbent losing uh ever since
00:04:28.460 toronto became a mega city so this is sort of the the situation the challengers find themselves in
00:04:33.660 and just big advantage uh to olivia chow almost for that reason it's kind of kind of caked into
00:04:39.340 the system the the leading opponent brad bradford's working hard uh to prevail maybe he'll close that
00:04:44.540 gap but uh yeah it's that huge municipal incumbent advantage well it's interesting because the
00:04:51.340 majority of torontonians say it's time for a new mayor so when they did the poll i dug in i like
00:04:57.660 to go back i like to look at these polls and i said okay so it's polling 51 to 34. i'm gonna you
00:05:03.580 know uh sorry uh chris alexander i'm gonna leave you on the side for a minute let's just talk the
00:05:09.980 two you know leading candidates bradford and chow so it's 51 34 is how it's pulling but then when
00:05:16.620 they do the polls more than the majority of torontonians are believing we need a new mayor
00:05:21.740 so there's a disconnect here right there's a when they ask the question who you're going to elect for
00:05:25.740 elect, it actually changes significantly. And when they do an all voter poll, it actually
00:05:34.320 ends up at 38.25. So decided voters, it's actually 51.34. But then when they actually
00:05:42.040 talk to everyone who does the poll, it actually tightens up to 38.25. So I thought that was
00:05:47.560 interesting. And then with the majority, when they ask them, you know, would you like a new
00:05:55.740 mayor? The majority says yes. So it's very interesting the way the poll shakes out in this
00:06:00.380 case. This cognitive dissonance is pretty common. It's like you say to people, do you want all these
00:06:05.740 free things for government to give you? Yes, I do. And then you put, well, would you pay $10 more
00:06:10.240 taxes for all this free stuff? No, I would not. Yeah, 100% no. We see this stuff a lot and how
00:06:15.960 numbers don't always match up and make sense. Yeah. Residents are divided. So 46% say Toronto
00:06:24.260 is going in the right direction and 54% say we're on the wrong track. So that's very interesting
00:06:30.980 when you go through it. And one thing that's so important, Paul, is what they call in politics,
00:06:36.220 GOTV, get out the vote. Of that catchment, who are actually the people motivated to get out and vote?
00:06:42.060 is it the people who say there should be change or is it the people who say no i love olivia chow
00:06:47.420 and how well do the different candidates do identifying their people and saying oh come
00:06:51.180 on we need you to come out and support because we can see gaps between that too oh i thought
00:06:55.740 everyone wanted change but then you go oh no actually we didn't get changed this time around
00:06:59.820 and a lot of it is you know the mechanics of whether folks come out maybe the people who say
00:07:04.300 oh i'm i'm sick of these politicians they're just gonna stay home and watch tv yeah not go out and
00:07:08.780 vote yeah which is sad we've talked about before and you know i i hit on this one i before the show
00:07:14.860 i was just going through getting ready looking at some of the contested very uh close races and
00:07:21.500 of course mississauga popped up so i was looking at mississauga um and it was very interesting
00:07:28.300 because when you look at the polling on this it actually is coming out very interesting the two
00:07:33.660 biggest of course the two biggest issues in mississauga being a bedroom uh bedroom community
00:07:38.860 is affordability and cost of living that makes pretty much makes sense uh followed by uh crime
00:07:46.220 and public safety so you know one and two i think you pretty much have that everywhere you go across
00:07:52.620 canada um but they're really now coming out and saying that they want uh they do uh so if i look
00:08:02.220 at the question is our mayor and city council are out of touch with what residents want and need
00:08:07.340 agree or disagree so 24 said they agree strongly 41 agree somewhat so that is 65 agree that the
00:08:16.700 mayor and council are out of touch with what people want disagree somewhat is 30 and disagree
00:08:23.100 strongly is five so it's very interesting how that poll so but then when they ask about whether the
00:08:29.900 mayor's doing a good job um they actually uh support uh care carolyn parish uh and what she's
00:08:39.180 doing for mayor so uh 57 said she's doing a good job 43 said a bad job um and then city council
00:08:49.820 uh they said 61 saying a good job 39 uh doing a bad job so it bounced back and forth but you have
00:08:57.900 alvin uh alvin techo you you have uh bonnie crombie and you have carolyn paris there a lot of people
00:09:05.980 are talking about alvin coming up the middle on this one so this is a very interesting story
00:09:10.460 because quite frankly um you might have two pretty uh dominant uh nominee nom uh former mayor and
00:09:19.500 mayor uh being uh split their votes being split by a new candidate yeah interesting to see that
00:09:30.140 unfold i guess not too surprising because bonnie crombie and carolyn parish both former mayors i
00:09:36.060 mean carolyn's the incumbent so current mayor uh strong recognition there uh maybe people want to
00:09:41.420 see something different though so they'll have a huge advantage being able to bring out votes
00:09:45.180 they've won before but then if people are also feeling cynical about the whole thing wanting
00:09:50.860 change maybe uh alvin is the change candidate and the question is is this a change election it's
00:09:56.140 kind of funny people say oh i'm dissatisfied with all of council but then they still say i'm going
00:10:00.540 to vote for for the incumbents in part because that could be they're not actually seeing someone
00:10:05.100 who represents change they're not seeing someone who is a departure from that vision and if that
00:10:09.820 was presented to them maybe they would go with that person right exactly you know that's the
00:10:13.660 toronto case really if uh when you look at the polling for the toronto case they want a new mayor
00:10:18.140 they just don't have a candidate they want to vote for that's different than olivia right now so uh
00:10:22.780 so that's really where it seems like we're at i think we've seen in the past uh you know rob
00:10:28.540 ford is an example obviously in america donald trump is an example of someone who's just so
00:10:32.860 different than what people had seen in the past so when you say you want politics done differently
00:10:37.260 those are people doing things very differently i gave conservative examples but there's left-wing
00:10:41.340 examples too of, you know, people like AOC or Bernie Sanders who do stuff very different than
00:10:46.920 what the more establishment figures do. So, you know, that's kind of what different can mean.
00:10:52.280 Very different. Not just, oh, you're going to decrease taxes by 7%. Well, I'm going to decrease
00:10:56.740 them by 7.5. I mean, that's not different. Well, now it's interesting because we talked about this
00:11:04.060 a few weeks ago and it's interesting. And I'm going to dive into this for a couple of seconds.
00:11:08.700 all these actually um a lot of these candidates now are actually talking about freezes or
00:11:15.160 elimination of fees or services so i know brad bradford yesterday was talking about water
00:11:21.100 and decreasing water bills and eliminating uh transfer taxes real estate transfer taxes
00:11:26.940 they're starting to talk about property tax fees it's very interesting i know a lot of promises
00:11:31.360 get made at election time i get that i'm not naive to the fact that you know i want to get in and
00:11:36.740 when i get in i actually change everything you know back to the way it was but it's interesting
00:11:43.460 now that you're seeing people revert back to zero percent property tax no land transfer so
00:11:51.460 so you know when things are getting tougher and we're seeing affordability issues they're coming
00:11:56.820 back to people saying you know don't worry we're not gonna add additional costs but no one's asking
00:12:02.580 the question i guess anthony where is the money going to come from so as i'm listening to all this
00:12:06.740 And it came out yesterday, I think in Toronto, I've heard it and across the country in different regions so far as well, the West Coast, you know, particularly, but they're coming out with different campaign promises, you know, let's get rid of property tax, let's get rid of Human Rights Commission, they're making all these crazy comments, but they're not telling us what they would cut.
00:12:30.460 And so it's interesting now.
00:12:31.700 And I think as we get through to the end of the month,
00:12:33.820 that'll be the true controversy
00:12:35.180 or true debate between all the groups.
00:12:37.700 What are you going to cut out?
00:12:38.820 So yeah, if you're not going to increase property tax,
00:12:40.820 what do I lose?
00:12:42.200 Because there's a give and take, of course.
00:12:44.900 Yeah, but I think it's unfortunate.
00:12:46.380 The electorate can't always manage that conversation
00:12:50.640 because when we look at how government has changed
00:12:53.000 and grown in recent years and decades,
00:12:55.300 we're doing a whole lot more than we used to do.
00:12:58.120 Oh, yeah.
00:12:58.400 And we make a pledge saying, okay, I'm now going to give you this free stuff.
00:13:02.760 Obviously, that comes with a consequence.
00:13:05.020 Maybe we're going to debt finance that.
00:13:06.920 And then we're going to have to increase your taxes to deal with that debt financing.
00:13:10.240 Someone comes along.
00:13:11.120 And I think Bradford saying he's going to get rid of the land transfer taxes is great.
00:13:14.700 I think it's fantastic.
00:13:15.740 Why do we put a syntax on purchasing homes?
00:13:19.000 What's wrong with purchasing a home? 0.58
00:13:20.580 That's what human beings do. 0.97
00:13:22.440 I think we should get rid of that tax.
00:13:24.160 And then you're right.
00:13:24.760 People say, well, how are you going to get rid of the revenue?
00:13:26.620 I say, well, hold on a second.
00:13:27.800 when we introduced this reckless tax not that long ago in 20 years ago in toronto uh why did
00:13:33.500 we not actually talk about you know what this means and the consequences of all of this so i
00:13:39.160 think really when you're campaigning and when i ran for mayor i also said i'd get rid of the
00:13:43.240 land transfer tax i like it you're seeking a mandate to say this is a priority and if getting
00:13:48.360 rid of the land transfer tax if i run and i say i'm going to do these five things and and and
00:13:52.920 these are the priorities well that means these are the priorities so this other thing is not a
00:13:57.560 priority. So if that other thing is costing a billion dollars in the budget, well, maybe I'm
00:14:02.200 only going to spend 900 million on it next year. You say, well, why did you do that? Well, because
00:14:06.220 I told you what my priorities are, and I didn't mention that thing. I didn't mention, you know,
00:14:10.380 like, I didn't mention the free ice cream. That's not a priority. So we're going to do less of the
00:14:14.500 free ice cream, and we're not going to have as much of that. And I hope we're coming to a period
00:14:18.920 soon, Paul, and you talk from an accounting perspective and a finance and numbers perspective
00:14:23.400 a lot i hope we're getting to a point where people can can handle that conversation it's an important
00:14:28.280 one yeah well you know the nice and i you know i i'm not a big uh pollster i don't believe in a lot
00:14:34.360 of polling but quite frankly i find it interesting when i look at the municipal elections to look at
00:14:39.480 some of the polling and so i have been kind of picking through it um i think they are so i think
00:14:44.920 what we're starting to see is people are starting to realize you know they can't afford their gas
00:14:49.720 they can't afford you know their groceries are getting more expensive so i need a break on
00:14:54.600 property tax i need a break on some things so i i now i i think the regular joe who's working
00:15:01.320 you know who's paying their bills renting or mortgage um feeding their family is starting to
00:15:07.640 figure out that they have to make changes so they have to balance that budget so you're noticing
00:15:14.200 quite frankly that's becoming a bigger issue a bigger polling issue as we go through and you're
00:15:19.320 seeing it come out now whether or not they'll vote on that or whether or not more people who are you
00:15:25.080 know i always say especially in the toronto election more people who are getting the free
00:15:30.120 stuff will come out than the people who are actually working i don't know um but but quite
00:15:36.360 frankly you see it as a bigger issue now uh mississauga i just read about that uh what the
00:15:42.280 key issues on the table were those are the key issues that people have so you know let's hope
00:15:47.480 and i think uh some of the candidates that are running now are realizing that so the conversation
00:15:53.720 is turning to that more so than it has in the past which is great and i think they're starting
00:15:58.120 to do a better job we criticize you know i'll give um you know kudos where kudos are due um
00:16:05.160 i think we have we're a little tough on bradford uh at the last time we spoke because we didn't
00:16:11.560 see him out there kind of moving his campaign forward we didn't see it all of a sudden uh right
00:16:17.240 away after he started to move he got a little more aggressive started to come out with more items
00:16:22.200 so i think that's good you know he's kind of woken up i think he's in the game now maybe he was
00:16:27.080 holding a little bit of his uh election campaign to the end so he could get some momentum
00:16:32.840 um so we'll see maybe he picks up steam in the end but you know it's interesting because
00:16:38.120 they're starting to get endorsements so across the nation they're starting to get endorsements
00:16:42.480 and i noticed in toronto uh you know an interesting one geddie lee came out and actually endorsed
00:16:50.220 brad bradford um and i was like oh that's a different one and his his uh reason was that
00:16:57.320 he's a resident of toronto and and over the last decade he's seen the city uh erode as he is kind
00:17:06.320 he alluded to so um you know it'd be interesting to see now more endorsements and you know i don't
00:17:12.800 know if you're hearing you know any more endorsements that are about to come well i think
00:17:17.120 a getty lee endorsement is way more valuable than a former cabinet minister or senior political
00:17:22.320 figure because it gets people thinking and it brings in people who are not in the political
00:17:27.520 system so regardless of what getty lee said and why he's making the endorsement i think just just
00:17:32.480 that becomes something and it breaks through to a different category of voter paul when i ran a few
00:17:37.520 years ago there was a a mini scandal around my campaign where um ai was not as sophisticated
00:17:44.720 three years ago as it is now and we had some file photos of ai in a in a in a in a sort of
00:17:50.960 press release we sent out and there was a person who had an extra arm poking out remember when ai
00:17:55.840 was oh yeah fingers and arms and it became this this big deal i kind of chuckled at it
00:18:00.560 But they talked about my campaign on like top 40 radio stations
00:18:04.760 when they normally wouldn't talk about a campaign on an entertainment show.
00:18:08.960 But they talked about it there.
00:18:10.300 So it actually got my name out there in a different category of audience
00:18:14.420 like the Getty Lee endorsements doing.
00:18:16.420 So those things are fun and valuable from that regard.
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00:18:36.180 Yeah, yeah, well, you know, sold 45 million albums with Rush.
00:18:42.900 So, you know, he quotes in this article, and this is from The Sun,
00:18:47.860 I was born in Toronto and built a life with my family here.
00:18:51.060 It has always been a place I've been proud of,
00:18:53.140 but it's changing and not for the better.
00:18:55.160 So, you know, I think it's a sentiment that we're all feeling.
00:18:58.880 And I think he's finally decided to step into the political format and share his view.
00:19:05.640 So given the fact that, you know, he just had so many sellout shows, he's very popular still.
00:19:11.200 He waited until after he sold the tickets to make the political statement.
00:19:14.440 Because that's the challenge with artists. 0.83
00:19:16.000 I know Dolly Parton, who passed away, she always mentors.
00:19:18.280 I'm not saying anything because I want to, I care about everyone.
00:19:21.880 And she probably also wants to sell tickets to everyone too.
00:19:23.760 so you don't want to alienate whereas some of the artists are out there you know super anti-trump and
00:19:28.560 then some trump fans go i'm not going to buy a springsteen ticket now because of that so they
00:19:32.320 always have to manage that aspect yeah yeah barbara streisand right you know that was uh she she was 0.98
00:19:38.320 basically very politically active and you know uh her concerts were sometimes controversial because
00:19:44.960 people would show up heckling and it you know it can get pretty nasty and so yeah no i i get it um
00:19:50.560 but i think this will actually be resonate you know and it's interesting now to see who's going
00:19:55.440 to endorse who in the final you know run up to these elections i can't i can't uh you know go
00:20:03.360 past this show without really talking about bc let's talk about bc for a minute because you know
00:20:09.600 right on the heels of the municipal election uh which has been interesting we've got the
00:20:15.920 controversial provincial election a snap election that was called you know the conservative party
00:20:21.840 in disarray splitting you know then their leader of the conservative party stepping down then
00:20:27.920 reforming and then uh premier eb calling a snap election any thoughts on how that's gonna it's a
00:20:35.280 lot it's a lot for a population to absorb and having a municipal and a provincial election so
00:20:41.040 close to each other uh is it going to backfire on them you think it's a it's an interesting uh way
00:20:46.640 to do it yeah it certainly could i mean bc is really caught in an interesting place i i think
00:20:51.520 it's it's very politically different than than a province like ontario i think their ndp is wired a
00:20:57.760 bit different than other ndps and that's always going to be the case across the province uh and
00:21:03.120 and they're in a lot of uh they're they're in a lot of sort of culture war conversations
00:21:08.960 i want to say like they're obviously talking about the economy that's a big issue in ontario
00:21:14.120 manufacturing the economy bc there's a lot more ideological philosophical values-based discussions
00:21:20.340 going on right now almost kind of referendum questions uh that are happening there and that's
00:21:26.140 where things could backfire on eb he's clearly just exploiting the fact that the uh the opposition
00:21:31.400 which seemed like it was going to take power next time that they are in shambles uh you can say
00:21:36.680 that's deeply cynical but you can also say he'd be mad to not call an election at this time when
00:21:42.380 he's so surefire uh to prevail in all of that but the voters may may punish him as well because
00:21:47.580 elections cost tons of money and why are you going early uh just for your own political gain yeah
00:21:54.140 well that's very interesting you know there was an article it came out in the sun uh i think this
00:21:58.640 morning talking which we're going to talk about on another show but was talking about uh prime
00:22:03.980 minister carney may be actually holding a snap election coming up given everything going on
00:22:08.700 with the conservative party federally so you know we're we are just getting election overload as
00:22:14.180 we're going forward and we wonder why voter turnout rate is so low why bother voting today
00:22:18.140 because there's going to be another one tomorrow kind of thing like it's almost like you know we
00:22:21.880 can't compute it it's just non-stop election yeah exactly which you know you know i've talked to you
00:22:28.560 about this on other shows the challenge right now is we see these dropping uh numbers at the polls
00:22:34.440 and election polls on election day uh it is the trying to get people out and try to incentivize
00:22:40.100 so you know before the show we've talked about we've talked about other countries where they
00:22:43.960 find people and they hold they get days off they create parties we found an interesting uh article
00:22:51.360 and and the guys pulled it up for me and i i said to them there must be something someone does
00:22:56.080 and that does this really well well in norway slovakia and brazil they basically hold a mini
00:23:05.760 lottery and you can win prizes by voting so basically they create an election lottery
00:23:12.100 whereas your ballot goes in it actually is also available to be picked to win prizes and cash
00:23:18.860 so maybe something we want to look at if we want to try to get people to get out and get active
00:23:23.780 begin to get their attention and kind of, because to your point, Anthony, with this overload of
00:23:29.320 elections, as we mentioned, when I read them off at the beginning of the show, even for me getting
00:23:34.220 ready for the show today, it's really difficult because you're talking about this many candidates
00:23:39.100 across this many regions, this, you know, these five big areas of voting. How do you get up to
00:23:46.480 speed and how do you follow it even if you're living there? So that is the big challenge.
00:23:52.900 You know, so BC for a minute, before we finish it, right?
00:23:57.920 If I'm now going to vote, I have to follow what's going on provincially
00:24:03.020 at the same time as I'm trying to figure out what's going on with my mayor,
00:24:07.020 the candidates, everything else, as well as trying to figure it out,
00:24:10.980 as well as go through all the polling and the machinations.
00:24:14.000 This is all happening in the midst of all these disruptions for tariffs.
00:24:19.800 it's a lot to handle you know i did this morning i got up and i was i when you came in i handed you
00:24:25.940 um the stelco announcement in hamilton um and you know these announcements are being made
00:24:31.700 everywhere across the nation so they're being made you know in bc they're maybe made in ontario
00:24:37.080 hamilton you know the the effects of the tariffs are starting to hit so now you have you know in
00:24:44.440 different regions you have multiple elections happening you have tariff impacts it really is
00:24:50.220 hard for people to figure out what to do next so does this favor now to the incumbents so is this
00:24:55.640 kind of on their side you know go to a safe haven go to someone they might not be that great but i
00:25:01.400 do know them those that you know you think that's where it's going to play out and it even helps
00:25:06.360 them even more yeah i think absolutely the idea that david eb wants to run against donald trump
00:25:11.540 that's that's kind of an easy win because donald trump was always you know canada's always been
00:25:16.080 uh less republican less conservative than the u.s and now lots of frustration with trump with the
00:25:21.700 tariffs and so on so that's an easy win you say oh if you don't like donald trump vote for me
00:25:26.200 david eby well then i think he's going to win doug ford did the same here so it it absolutely is it's
00:25:31.600 it's kind of flooding the zone with many issues and then just finding the one that's that's the
00:25:36.760 slam dunk there yeah okay so now you've been through this so i'm gonna and i was trying to
00:25:42.640 think in my mind what would i do if i was uh running against uh all this stuff happening in
00:25:49.000 the marketplace if i was running against someone who uh you know hadn't was polling okay not poorly
00:25:57.600 they were the the current mayor or current counselor what would i do actually to change
00:26:04.400 to shift that you know what would be the thing i would be hitting on um you know and from a
00:26:10.160 municipal perspective i definitely think affordability so from a municipal perspective
00:26:15.760 i think really moving on and saying what is the track record of this person that i'm running
00:26:22.080 against has it got better has it got worse and what am i going to do to deal with affordability and
00:26:28.800 like i mentioned crime but particularly in affordability i'd be really hitting the
00:26:33.520 affordability mark now to give people solutions so that would be where i'd be going as strong as
00:26:39.920 i could because i think that's the only thing really to play off is there anything else you
00:26:43.040 would be driving towards if you were running against someone in this environment yeah well
00:26:48.240 something that's a strong signifier something that's that's very specific and relatable in the
00:26:54.400 past i remember campaign saying we're going to get rid of the vehicle registration fee there you go
00:26:59.280 so every year you have to pay a hundred dollars to register your vehicle again why why do we have
00:27:03.360 to do that like just get rid of that thing and then you do that was something doug ford did
00:27:07.600 uh those sort of things where people appreciate okay that's that's affordability this this fee
00:27:12.400 drives me nuts i get it those sort of things where people can go that's the guy who's gonna do this
00:27:17.680 yeah no no that's good it's good you know well we're leading up we have five
00:27:23.040 big you know provinces that are actually leading into election time um you know my advice to
00:27:29.440 everyone get out and vote please you know it's important and we've talked about this on past
00:27:34.080 shows your vote counts and as you say anthony it is your shareholding in the municipality city town
00:27:42.640 or province that you live in. So thank you. Thanks, Paul.