True Patriot Love - November 02, 2026


He Quit His Government Job—and Fooled Penn & Teller ft. Wes Barker

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00:00:00.000 Wes Barker picked up magic at the age of 19 while working on City of Surrey Cruise.
00:00:05.760 He's practicing his magic in his truck on brakes and then he quit at the age of 25 when he was
00:00:12.160 offered a promotion. And in 2015, he fooled Penn & Teller on Fool Us. And in 2021, he co-starred
00:00:20.220 in TruTV's Big Trick Energy. His YouTube channel has surpassed 160 million views and his social
00:00:27.600 media is in the billions okay wes i gotta tell you i just love magic and i'm so intrigued about
00:00:41.760 magic i always sit there and try to figure things out but before we get into some of your tricks and
00:00:46.800 what you do um it's you've got an amazing story like you're working for the city of surrey and
00:00:55.200 practicing magic in your truck tell me about that yeah i mean i it was it started off as like a
00:01:02.000 summer job when i was in university and you know it's a good job for the summers they'd hire you
00:01:07.120 on and you can make really good money put yourself through university great and then i'm in university
00:01:11.920 six years changing majors you know just switching whatever i like i like being in school it didn't
00:01:17.200 really bother me um but this job was like i was getting really good at it it was becoming super
00:01:21.600 boring a lot of sitting around your truck so i was like well i saw david blaine on tv and i thought
00:01:26.560 well maybe i could learn some card tricks at work it seems like something you could do you know when
00:01:30.080 you're disboard in a truck okay hang on a second hang on so as a kid you weren't practicing magic
00:01:36.080 this is just you're on the job you're apparently up for a promotion yeah that happened a little
00:01:41.440 bit later that was like well basically i don't know i i literally thought i'm like maybe i'll
00:01:45.920 learn some card tricks pass some time with my partner at work maybe i'll bring it to the bar
00:01:49.760 meet some girls that's not what happens uh but i but i did i did entertain my partners pretty
00:01:55.120 pretty well at work and then yeah after i stopped going to university they gave me a full-time
00:01:58.720 position at the city and i was like okay and then i was like i don't want to do this rest of my life
00:02:02.240 and then when they're like hey you can have a promotion i knew like oh man i'm just like
00:02:07.120 settling into this concrete you know like that's how it happens right they catch you with the like
00:02:11.680 just enough money here and there then you end up 40 years down the road doing something you didn't
00:02:15.440 even ever want to do so i was like i quit i'm going to be a magician and this all happened like
00:02:20.000 so like i went from literally just loving car tricks from about 19 to 25 just loving car tricks
00:02:26.240 in my truck at work doing them at the bar and next thing you know i tell my boss i'm out of
00:02:30.480 here and i'm driving away from this job i've had for a long time which probably is a pension that
00:02:36.400 you're driving away from oh yeah to be a magician you know what to be honest because the way the
00:02:41.520 the uh the retirement structure works for like a a government job out in bc at least
00:02:46.560 it was like your years of service plus your age if that equals 90 you get full retirement
00:02:52.480 so in my head i'm like well if i got if i came back to this job at 40 years old and worked on 65
00:02:58.720 i could still retire with a full pension okay so i was like i have until i'm 40. to have fun yeah
00:03:04.400 and then if worst case scenario i go back to this job that's 15 years i just turned 40 now you know
00:03:10.560 so like it's and i would never look back now it was only three only the first three years i was
00:03:14.640 kind of like oh is this a good idea you know like starving artist style right really bad
00:03:18.960 but i mean i'm a hustler my dad's a salesman my brother's a salesman my grandfather's a salesman
00:03:23.200 they taught me how to cold call and like i literally just started hustling for work right
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00:03:58.300 back to the show. I love it. Now you mentioned to me off-camera that you've been married 10 years.
00:04:04.100 yeah what's the support like there is your wife like yep go for it i like this idea yeah continue
00:04:10.340 doing magic i think we've married 10 years we've been together for 15. so she watched you go from
00:04:16.340 we started promotion the month after i quit my job hey nice to meet you and i don't have a job
00:04:22.740 i don't think she cared right away because uh you know she when you start dating someone you don't
00:04:27.060 think you're gonna be with them forever necessarily right so she's like yeah this guy's a magician
00:04:31.140 whatever right and then it was only like as it grew but no she the support from her is insane
00:04:36.020 it's so good and like you know i'm touring half the time or more than half the time and then on
00:04:40.980 our spare time we're making content like for facebook and stuff and and that we do together
00:04:45.300 right so she's in all of the social media side of it and and that is a whole other income stream
00:04:51.140 right so we're we're in it together big time it's let's talk about the social media for a second
00:04:56.180 because your youtube channel has surpassed 160 million views for sure that's insane it is it's
00:05:05.140 uh yeah it's it's and it's literally probably my least viewed social media my facebook probably has
00:05:10.980 two billion views wow yeah and and my instagram probably like yeah hundreds of hundreds of
00:05:16.500 thousands as well so you're always 100 millions obviously creating content all the time and it's
00:05:21.620 magic yeah um you know i do one a day on youtube one a day on instagram four times a day on facebook
00:05:27.620 wow yeah okay so that's a job in itself yeah for sure so i i again as i mentioned earlier i love
00:05:33.860 magic and i'll watch there's a couple of guys on on facebook that you'll see them showing you how
00:05:40.500 the trick is done what's your feeling on that is that like guys you know come on let's not show
00:05:46.020 our craft i'm not too precious about it uh honestly because the the more i've been in the
00:05:52.020 magic industry for you know 20 years now uh the more i realize that every time you show people
00:05:57.380 how stuff works they just get more and more interested you create more magic bands that way
00:06:02.580 sometimes it's annoying like you'll get guys exposing like uh someone else's trick that they
00:06:07.860 spent their life you know like it's like a big staple of their career and that's kind of a
00:06:11.540 crappy thing to do right right exposing someone's like big moment you know like you go and like oh
00:06:16.260 this is david copperfield's signature trick let me expose it like what are you doing but all the other
00:06:21.140 stuff i think it just builds more magic fans yeah the little tricks like you know disappearing pen
00:06:26.500 and it's kind of yeah exactly all that to your finger because if you turn it this way you can't
00:06:30.900 see exact camera which which is simple and yeah it gives people like me a chance to do it at parties
00:06:37.300 totally and you literally just make more fans that way and anyone who like even like we had
00:06:41.220 the masked magician a long time ago it was like a popular tv show and he was exposing all these
00:06:44.740 tricks but there's always more than one way to do a trick right so if you expose it then people
00:06:49.620 think they know but then they go watch an even better magician do it a different way and all
00:06:53.620 of a sudden they're fooled all over again they're fooled harder because it didn't work the way that
00:06:57.460 they knew it worked so i think i i honestly think exposure is good for magic in the long run i like
00:07:02.580 how you use the word fooled because we're going to talk about that pen and teller yeah i watched
00:07:07.860 that show religiously and how magicians and illusionists come on the show and try to fool
00:07:14.020 two of the greatest all-time magicians and illusionists uh of all time and uh you did that
00:07:20.740 yeah you were there and you did tell me a little about that experience that was crazy because i
00:07:25.380 was like i was on they did one season in the uk and then they shut it down for like four years
00:07:31.780 and then they rebooted it in the us and i was on that first us season so when i went down there i
00:07:37.780 was it was a fresh new show and uh and i became one of like the first five or six people to ever
00:07:43.220 fool them which just changed my career but going down there like i've been on america's got talent
00:07:47.300 and stuff i don't care what heidi klum thinks of my magic tricks that doesn't matter to me
00:07:51.860 right like she can love it or hate it doesn't really matter but what penn and teller think
00:07:55.140 your magic trick that matters so man i was like were you nervous oh i was so nervous i was day
00:08:00.980 drinking with my brother at the pool i was like he's like you better slow down you got to do the
00:08:04.900 show tonight i'm like i don't know what else to do i'm gonna bundle the nerves right now he's like
00:08:07.860 well drinking won't help but he was wrong it really helped oh awesome and then i took a huge
00:08:12.020 nap in the afternoon and i i felt good when i got up and i went down to the studio and i i fooled the
00:08:17.620 two greats but yeah they were uh it was it was a trick i created from scratch and had some really
00:08:23.220 old principles of magic in there and um yeah it was meant to just entertain the world i'm a very
00:08:28.500 funny magician i wasn't worried about fooling them it just so happened that it snuck by them
00:08:32.900 because it was an old school principle that they just sort of overlooked and man it was pretty
00:08:37.380 cool i mean i was literally downstairs afterwards i was the only one to fool them that day we were
00:08:41.700 filming they filmed like 12 acts i was the only one to fool them i'm just downstairs teller was
00:08:45.220 telling me how great it was as soon as he leaves i just burst into tears i was like holy crap it
00:08:49.220 just like my whole life like my whole career changed right there that's amazing thank you
00:08:52.340 for being so transparent about this that is super cool now afterwards because again this is how my
00:08:57.620 mind works did you like go out for dinner with the guys or did you have a drink with the guys
00:09:01.380 that anything like that or it's like okay you fooled us get out of here they they yeah they
00:09:06.100 they went their own way but they're like you know they invited me back to uh like pick a date on the
00:09:10.660 calendar you want to come back and you can open for us at the rio in vegas oh no way to do that
00:09:15.140 yeah which was really cool and then i got to hang out with him there more but on the show day no
00:09:19.700 but there was another uh canadian magician there that was on the show with me named chris funk he's
00:09:24.020 out of winnipeg and he was everyone else was mad because they all tried to fool them and didn't
00:09:29.780 right and same with chris he tried to fool them he didn't but he's a buddy and he and and canadians
00:09:34.420 stick together so he was like let's go for a drink so him and i went out for dinner and stuff with my
00:09:38.420 brother and that was a that was how we celebrated which was really classy of him because i know he
00:09:42.500 wasn't too super thrilled about how his you know performance was on the show right would you have
00:09:46.900 been the first canadian to fool them no sean farquhar he flew to the uk on the first season
00:09:51.140 And Sean Farquhar is a two-time FISM champion of magic, and he's out of Vancouver.
00:09:57.600 He's an all-time legend as far as magic goes, especially for Canadians.
00:10:01.660 Now, let's talk about that.
00:10:02.940 As a Canadian, how do you make a living, Ed?
00:10:06.500 You can't just stay in Canada, right?
00:10:08.300 You're all over the world.
00:10:09.360 Yeah, I'm all over.
00:10:10.400 Pretty much magic's good for that.
00:10:12.700 They'll hire you wherever.
00:10:13.900 For me, I really rely heavily on my very stand-up comedy magic.
00:10:19.520 so i can't like very well go to asia and do shows or i have but it's not like those guys are like
00:10:25.600 more set to music type magic if you can do like a a non-speaking magic act you can really tour
00:10:31.600 everywhere but mine's very like wherever the comedy can work uh then i can i can tour but
00:10:36.400 yeah i tour in the states and canada mostly but i will i'll go to australia i'll go to the uk
00:10:41.520 anywhere they call anywhere but like you know magic's a weird one because it's like
00:10:45.440 less people in it than say comedy or music for sure uh there's just you can demand a little
00:10:52.640 bit higher price it's a little bit more rare and it is more accessible to people like you go to a
00:10:57.680 comedy show sometimes if you bring eight people maybe two of them won't like it depending on who
00:11:01.600 you're seeing you know magic a higher hit rate of everyone leaving feeling good right and and with
00:11:07.200 your credentials it kind of helps yeah for sure yeah the only thing i struggle with is like when
00:11:11.920 i tour just trying to convince people not to bring kids because i just don't do a family act okay i
00:11:16.560 can and i will if it's like a specific reason to do it and the paydays oh yeah for sure hey listen
00:11:22.640 we want you to do uh my kid's birthday party and uh i'm drake yeah exactly yeah yeah drake kid no
00:11:29.200 problem hit me up but yeah i know i uh i do the cruise ships and those are always family friendly
00:11:33.600 so that's always fun but uh yeah mostly a lot of guys stick with the cruise ships i am at a position
00:11:39.280 now over the last few years i've just been touring and just comedy clubs and small theaters um and
00:11:45.040 yeah it really works for me canada in the us it's uh staying in canada is tricky because you know
00:11:50.240 the cities are too far apart but uh i i do 50 50 you know and you could make a living just in canada
00:11:56.240 i have friends that make a living a good living without even leaving the maritimes wow so it is
00:12:00.800 a bit of a myth that you can't make a living i'm sure it's different for comedy and for music but
00:12:05.440 for magic at least with that higher price point you can charge uh i think you can you can do it
00:12:11.440 it's not bad on another note uh let's talk about our country a little bit here is there anything
00:12:16.160 that kind of ticks you off about canada i think uh in the entertainment industry at least i i think
00:12:21.840 it's a bit frustrating sometimes how we don't have enough of our own uh we don't have like a celebrity
00:12:27.120 system here at all you know uh and i understand why our proximity to the states is too it's too
00:12:32.880 much but if you go to the uk they have a whole tier of their own celebrities and stuff and and
00:12:39.040 you can't uh you just can't they have their own shows and their panel shows and their own sitcoms
00:12:44.080 and stuff and in canada we just don't do it you know not not in any kind of way that is uh no one
00:12:50.560 no one in no canadian artist has anything on their goals list that is related to canada right no no
00:12:56.720 one says i'm going to get a canadian tv show right like i'm going to get they're going to be on this
00:13:00.640 talk show it's like no no there isn't one there's just like so yeah that's that that breaks my heart
00:13:06.240 but again i understand the economics of it so it's hard to be too mad about it that's the only
00:13:11.040 thing that ever really frustrates me but it it has for me been kind of a cheat code though um
00:13:17.760 because you can sort of like get uh you can convince people in the states that you're one
00:13:23.680 of the best in canada and you're barely lying and they also have really no way of checking because
00:13:28.960 it's not like what do they get even with the internet it's like what how can you even figure
00:13:32.720 this out so often i feel like uh it's not like i'm trying to figure it out there's like there's
00:13:38.000 no like tonight show in canada right where where the if you if you go to the states they can't be
00:13:43.520 like well he wasn't even on the canadian tonight show why would we put him on this tonight show
00:13:47.360 we don't have one so you just go i'm one of the best and they go oh get him on it's and no i'm
00:13:52.400 making i'm making it sound too simple but i really do feel like it's it's a there's a little bit of a
00:13:58.080 uh you can play a gray area in canada in the us so you can maybe even leapfrog a little bit past
00:14:03.440 some of the us guys if you play it correctly and you're in the right niche yeah you'll see
00:14:07.280 so many artists uh that do their first appearance on like letterman or something and then they just
00:14:12.640 skyrocket to fame because that changes their life totally and i i think all the tv shows i've ever
00:14:18.160 been on i know it was just some uh production uh person that it was like just googling you know
00:14:23.200 looking for people and i mean if you're gonna if you're like all right let's get like a canadian
00:14:27.840 guy down here you google magic in canada i'm gonna make a very short list because there's not that
00:14:32.320 many of us but if i was in the states i would just be in a sea of a thousand other guys it would be
00:14:36.560 hard to get to the top but to get to the top of the list in the canadian one i literally think
00:14:40.880 that's why i've been on so many u.s shows because they're looking for other acts internationally
00:14:45.280 and my name just rises to the top much quicker i would get buried in that 400 million people living
00:14:49.760 in the states so it can be in the right niches a superpower to be canadian oh i like that i like
00:14:55.840 that now life-changing david blaine uh anybody in particular i know penn and teller of course but i
00:15:02.720 know you've you've done some stuff with david blaine well i i've actually never even met david
00:15:07.040 blaine oh i thought you did no no no i i uh i'm a huge fan of david blaine he really did like get me
00:15:14.160 uh excited about so he was your inspiration you didn't need him but he was certainly your
00:15:17.760 inspiration no and i have a lot of friends that work closely with him when i had a tv show
00:15:21.840 i hired david blaine's team to be my consultants as well right because he wasn't shooting anything
00:15:26.880 at the time so i literally had his his guys behind the cameras developing my tricks and stuff
00:15:32.320 for our tv show and uh yeah so it's like he you know david blaine's the best and um we share a
00:15:37.920 lot of mutual friends i've just yeah luckily uh or unluckily haven't haven't been in the same room
00:15:42.560 um but yeah i've met copperfield a handful of times less of an inspiration to me because it was
00:15:48.800 just slightly before i was really interested in magic okay right but um you know just like one of
00:15:54.400 the all-time greats so going to go down big with theatrics yeah getting to go down and see his show
00:15:59.520 in vegas even though it's not at all the kind of magic i like to do i was like you know it is it is
00:16:04.720 like whoa but david blaine also not the kind of magic i like right and the and and that's kind of
00:16:10.320 what i think school ball magic is we haven't explored enough of the options yet you know like
00:16:14.560 i'm probably closer to like amazing jonathan if anyone remembers you know amazing jonathan was
00:16:18.880 kind of like a prop comic slash magician you know crazy guy so i feel like if you draw a line
00:16:24.400 somewhere between carrot top and david blaine then you're gonna hit onto what i'm more doing
00:16:29.760 okay so that's kind of uh yeah so it's really hard to find heroes in magic in a certain way because
00:16:35.280 we just don't have enough famous ones right if i ask a random person to name six famous
00:16:39.760 magicians good luck like it's not easy for a lot of people to do yeah just some kind of random
00:16:44.480 person because if you ask me i gotta i got a good list because i really enjoy it and we're gonna get
00:16:49.120 to a trick in just a moment but um let's dive in a little more about you what uh what is changing
00:16:55.120 in your life outside of magic uh you know i i turned 40 this year and i'm my career is in good
00:17:03.920 shape and i'm i'm really enjoying that my uh my marriage is in good shape everything's you know
00:17:09.600 everything's coming up west right now which feels good i i think uh all i'm prioritizing is
00:17:16.000 spending time with my wife and seeing the world and um you know trying to stay creative with magic
00:17:21.120 but yeah outside of that we don't have kids um you know i'm close with my family and my brother
00:17:26.320 and my parents and stuff and everybody's still happy and healthy so i just go out and visit them
00:17:31.120 and um you know they're they're between bc and alberta and uh yeah i honestly uh i'm in a good
00:17:37.200 spot right now so i i think a few years ago when i had i had a tv show on true tv and um and so it's
00:17:45.200 an american cable show went for 10 episodes and then you know whatever the that that uh was
00:17:52.720 executive gets fired and then they can our show right then you all have all the politics that goes
00:17:57.520 into the hollywood and and the tv stuff down there you're like okay so i'm not getting a second season
00:18:02.880 that was kind of devastating i looked at my list of goals i realized man i didn't even write any
00:18:07.840 more goals that was the end goal get a tv show here i'm 35 and i have my tv show and i'm like
00:18:13.200 i didn't even plan anything past this like yeah and i felt like i was really in a real spiral
00:18:19.520 so there was like a six month period after that that i was in a huge funk um and then i came to
00:18:24.960 the other side of that and mental health is good i feel happier than ever i threw myself back into
00:18:30.320 social media because what an amazing place um and talk about like leveling the playing field talk
00:18:36.800 about no borders right right like i mean it's hard to do you yeah just make it and put it out
00:18:44.880 and yeah so i make a ton of stuff i have so many videos that have gone crazy viral but that's maybe
00:18:52.480 one out of every 20 videos i post maybe maybe one out of 40 i just post a lot and i i just i think
00:18:58.560 that's the key so uh being busy makes me happy and it keeps my mental health good so outside of magic
00:19:05.200 my wife and i are doing couples content and riddles and travel content and just whatever
00:19:11.120 you know like every year we we do like a crazy compilation of funny halloween costumes and we
00:19:16.560 post those and we just sort of we stay busy and it really it makes me happy it makes us laugh it
00:19:22.320 gives us something to do and it's not at all magic related so sometimes most of what i post i'd say
00:19:27.920 half of what i post is for sure not even magic related it's just silliness i love it makes me
00:19:32.640 happy i love it okay um how about a little trick we could do a trick i think we could probably do
00:19:37.680 a trick right now let me think what do i got here um i'm trying to figure out if we should start
00:19:42.880 with a i'll show you the very first trick that that when i saw david blaine do it it really made
00:19:49.520 me want to do magic okay i will show you that trick okay i'm excited about this hey before we
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00:20:20.820 let you plug your social media oh for sure thank you so the uh yeah the this is such a neat trick
00:20:27.220 because i don't do a lot of card tricks but but you started with cards everybody starts with card
00:20:33.220 tricks in the truck yeah so sometimes i'll be doing card tricks now where i'll be like how does
00:20:38.180 this even work like i literally i'm on stage so much that i just forget sometimes how the card
00:20:42.580 tricks even work and it's just but it's just yeah muscle memory i was just gonna say hopefully so i
00:20:48.020 uh what i was doing just a second ago was looking for the queen of hearts and the queen of diamonds
00:20:53.140 which i found uh okay rob you have to take the uh queen of diamonds okay and you got to hang on to
00:20:58.580 it like this thumb on top yep now we're gonna test your memory what card did i give you queen of
00:21:04.420 diamonds have a look make sure have a look make sure okay you got a good memory so far i remembered
00:21:09.460 one thing yeah these are my custom decks of cards put a little censored bar across the mouth
00:21:18.020 Yeah, I don't know why I did that.
00:21:19.480 It made me happy.
00:21:21.380 Okay, and I have the Queen of Hearts.
00:21:23.060 Now, this is the most similar card to the Queen of Diamonds
00:21:25.360 because they're both red.
00:21:26.560 And this is what we're going to try and do.
00:21:27.700 I take the Queen of Hearts.
00:21:28.680 So we're going to test your memory by switching the cards.
00:21:31.240 So now I have the diamonds, you have the hearts,
00:21:32.840 and I pretend, I pretend again, I still have the diamonds.
00:21:35.300 But one more time, you have the hearts, I have the diamonds.
00:21:36.840 Which one's on top, which one's on the bottom?
00:21:38.380 That's the big question.
00:21:39.740 The Queen of Hearts is on top.
00:21:41.940 Oh, no, the Queen of Hearts is on the bottom.
00:21:43.700 The Queen of Diamonds is on top because I've got the Queen of Hearts.
00:21:46.400 That is what it would feel like. 1.00
00:21:47.520 now if you take uh turn them both over you'll be able to see oh I didn't the two black aces
00:21:53.880 yeah my finger did not leave that card I distract you with my good looks so I remember David Blaine 0.54
00:21:59.460 did this in the Dallas Cowboys locker room on one of his specials like one of his first street
00:22:03.420 magic specials and it blew my mind so much I just couldn't get over how cool that is that is super
00:22:09.180 cool and I knew right here and it doesn't even use the whole deck it just uses two cards and a
00:22:13.560 of distraction a little bit of sleight of hand and then you're like where's the you know the
00:22:17.720 queen of hearts queen of diamonds where do they go yeah they always land under the coffee cup every
00:22:21.240 time ah so then you take a coffee cup and then you can easily show queen diamonds queen of hearts
00:22:28.440 and then uh this is why i love magic look what reaction you you made my day my brain is turning
00:22:37.560 as trying to figure things out i didn't even see that happen i'm sitting two feet away from you
00:22:42.680 yeah i love it close-up magic is is one of the greatest things ever because it does happen in
00:22:47.560 your hands it doesn't get any more personal you're like any skepticism you have is gone because you're
00:22:52.920 holding it you're touching it you're thinking about it um i love being on stage because i i
00:22:57.880 started stand-up comedy the same time i started magic so i'm addicted to that but doing close-up
00:23:02.680 magic is just such a beautiful thing i i i love it even if you don't want to be a professional
00:23:08.040 magician and you just want to like a hobby learn some close-up magic learn some card tricks it
00:23:12.440 feels so good you can go to a party and just bust out three or four card tricks oh man you'll get
00:23:18.200 addicted quickly yeah i do a couple of this like coin ones and stuff like that at bars like nothing
00:23:24.040 major but but my buddy will know because he'll be in on it yeah for sure because he's gonna scratch
00:23:28.760 his head when i come over the coin that the person touched when i wasn't looking and we'll just be
00:23:32.840 random randomly out this is before i was married yeah uh and he'll be hey okay i'm gonna do this
00:23:39.640 and and you know to you got a signal you got a code yeah exactly so much fun for more information
00:23:44.760 where can people find you especially your social media yeah i i am uh i mean just type my name into
00:23:50.200 google everything's gonna come up but i go by stunt magician on instagram and stuntmagician.com
00:23:55.560 because i used to do a lot of more big stunts in my in my show and i still do i still do all
00:23:59.160 the escapes and all the craziness uh one more thing is uh let me grab this right now if anyone
00:24:05.960 if anyone's interested i i wrote a book it's called abrica dumbass and it's a magician who
00:24:11.560 can't keep a secret and this literally tells the story from when i quit my job uh to when i got my
00:24:16.600 tv show it has all the anecdotes you know famous people whatever but it actually teaches eight
00:24:21.240 tricks in this show and this trick is eight tricks in the book as well but yeah it i literally go
00:24:26.600 behind the scenes on everything pen and teller and my own tv show everything it's uh it's a real
00:24:31.000 tell-all it's super fun oh i'm definitely getting that and literally you don't have to read it a to
00:24:35.560 be you can just open to any random chapter uh whether you want to learn a trick or hear a story
00:24:39.800 it's all broken down really well like that and uh i honestly i hate pitching stuff to people but i i
00:24:45.160 think people are going to love it so yeah you can get that at westbarker uh dot shop or you can get
00:24:50.040 it at amazon audible dude the audible is insane because i read the book you know so people can
00:24:54.920 listen to it i hadn't read out loud since i was 11. you know what i mean so i realized i'm at
00:25:00.120 home in my little studio trying to read my wife's cackling in the other room she's like you sound
00:25:04.680 like you can't read you sound illiterate it it should it only plays like it's like six or seven
00:25:10.040 hours of actual like playback time took me four days four full like like 36 hours
00:25:16.760 i just couldn't read aloud man oh that's awesome anyway so please get the audible it's worth it
00:25:22.680 yeah oh man from a pickup truck to stardom west barker yeah look this guy up buddy thanks very
00:25:29.720 Thanks very much.
00:25:30.720 My pleasure.
00:25:31.720 It was a pleasure.
00:25:32.720 Thanks a lot.