True Patriot Love - June 24, 2026


[Sneak Peek] TPL Crime Update： Gun-for-Hire Networks & Canada's Bail Reform


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In this week's Crime Update, we take a deep dive into the Toronto Police Service's multi-layered gun network. Chief Bill Blair and his top gun expert, Paul Micucci, join us to talk about the tragic shooting of two people in the city's west end.

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00:00:00.320 why why are we these young people doing this you know who are they who's their family who
00:00:06.080 are their connections what are what is prompting them to take these actions i i'd like to know
00:00:11.440 because quite frankly there's got to be a reason well whether it's psychological whether it's
00:00:15.600 social or whether it's criminal like i think we just to say that it happened i guess mike where
00:00:20.880 my frustration is coming a little bit i i don't want to do that anymore i don't think the public
00:00:25.360 wants to hear that anymore they want to hear okay why is this happening who prompted them to do it
00:00:31.520 why did they do where did they get the gun again where are the guns coming from
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00:01:30.460 This is our crime update.
00:01:32.880 We do it every week.
00:01:34.100 And joining me, as he does, to talk about that, Paul Micucci.
00:01:37.320 Thanks, Paul.
00:01:37.920 I'm ready, Mike.
00:01:38.620 I woke up this morning, and I was raring to go.
00:01:41.800 My son, my youngest one, is actually starting summer school.
00:01:47.980 I should point out, when you say that, generally speaking,
00:01:51.040 And people are like, oh, he struggles.
00:01:53.440 No, he's advancing himself.
00:01:56.100 These kids.
00:01:56.580 So we jump in the car, and we actually head to school.
00:01:59.920 And I get a call from the office here, and they say,
00:02:03.600 you're late for a conference call, which I missed for some reason.
00:02:07.660 It's early in the March, like 8 o'clock.
00:02:09.760 So I'm in the car, and I'm rolling along.
00:02:12.680 I'm on this conference call.
00:02:13.840 I get to the school, and I wave goodbye.
00:02:15.880 And just as I wave goodbye, I remembered, and it just hit me,
00:02:18.980 because I look forward in the car, and there's a bunch of cruisers,
00:02:22.980 and there's one of those investigation units, the motorhomes that they set up.
00:02:27.780 And I remember the news from late last night that in my neighborhood,
00:02:31.840 a gentleman actually shot two people, and he's on the run, armed and dangerous,
00:02:35.800 right beside my kid's school.
00:02:39.380 So anyway.
00:02:40.440 So you're on a conference call.
00:02:41.620 So I'm on a conference call.
00:02:43.540 He's be lying across to the football field to meet his buddies, probably, you know, to do whatever.
00:02:48.200 and quite frankly he's not heading into the school so i said to my wife i put it on mute i say do me
00:02:53.620 a favor go get him get him in the bloody school right so you know what a what a start to the
00:02:59.360 morning that is a that's startling right it's scary and the the whole drive for the next six
00:03:05.300 blocks was barricaded off with cruisers trying to triangulate this person who's now uh armed
00:03:12.080 and dangerous moving in this community and he shot two people last night shot two people they're in
00:03:16.620 a critical condition so let's uh hope for them ah yeah and uh the police uh catch the guy in the
00:03:22.700 neighborhood yeah did you check the garage before you left yeah well you know it's funny i was out
00:03:27.020 this morning doing some things and it did come across my mind the only thing i came across was a 0.73
00:03:31.500 bloody coyote who was as big as a freaking uh husky uh running through my front yard i don't
00:03:37.820 know where these coyotes are coming from a story for another day but indeed are they getting bigger
00:03:42.940 or are they getting bigger well i've heard estimates of 50 000 plus in the gta in the way
00:03:47.900 of population there's got to be and this thing looks like a large dog like this is not a small
00:03:52.860 animal and it's coming straight through literally i'm standing there and it's coming straight through
00:03:56.860 my front yard at full clip yeah it's uh every day more and more sightings and people like right at
00:04:01.900 the front doors and stuff they're yeah they're getting less afraid of humans and interacting
00:04:06.060 more isn't working well i'm glad you you know what two close misses this morning i'm glad you're here
00:04:11.260 yeah thank you uh story number one toronto police linked dozens of shootings to multi-layered gun
00:04:17.260 for hire network you know we we caught a sort of a glimpse of this discussion uh last week after the
00:04:24.780 tragic shooting of uh constable mark uh pinazato and uh now as they go deeper into this uh chief
00:04:34.300 of police saying yes in fact this is a gun for hire network that focuses on using youth right
00:04:39.900 and they're communicating them with them through a social email whatsapp app and uh quite frankly
00:04:46.620 it's it's a little crazy because he uh you know police chief demke who i'm a fan of i said that
00:04:51.980 in other shows i i'm like okay we're trying to figure out who is behind this and i'm like okay
00:04:58.380 you have all their social now right you must be able to track somewhere where these messages are
00:05:04.220 coming from and where the where the monies are being sent to pay them and and so now i'm gonna
00:05:10.060 make okay there's got to be a there's got to be a link here and how fast do we move because this has
00:05:15.580 to be with everything going on in vancouver and toronto right now this has to be like number one
00:05:22.540 or up there in the priority list it's got to be okay we need to cap this because we don't know
00:05:26.300 how big this is and how many communications is it like how many people is this how big is the message
00:05:31.580 these people are trying to deliver at a time where we have mass crowds from around the world and
00:05:37.900 at these games well are you following this ufc story that's breaking actually this morning in
00:05:42.540 the us no so so this is crazy remember uh freedom 250 you know the ufc 250 right so you know they
00:05:50.460 barricaded these people in a park and had them watch the the game on the screen okay right there
00:05:56.460 was uh there are uh a group that was trying to uh basically that had snipers and a plan to rush the
00:06:06.060 white house and everything and they arrested them this morning it was all over the news in the us
00:06:10.300 i did see a glimpse of that yeah yeah and i'm like wow this is crazy like that's a crazy story and
00:06:15.580 they they wanted to get the crowd rolling uh towards the sniper group that they had set up in
00:06:21.500 the park to start shooting certain people and then move towards the white house so they wanted
00:06:26.780 to cause a disruption have everyone stampede in a certain way strategically shoot people with the
00:06:32.140 snipers and then move towards the white house this is and they're i think they're they've got now
00:06:37.180 six or eight people arrested well so when i'm listening to this i'm like okay make that
00:06:41.980 connection yeah i'm trying to figure out like you know how bad are these stories we're hearing right
00:06:48.060 now 27 separate incidents thought to be executed through this network and now if you had this
00:06:56.220 network of ready to shoot individuals you probably would test them out in a couple of places that sent
00:07:02.700 a message before you actually executed what you wanted to do with them because i mean 27 separate
00:07:09.260 incidents i'm i'm gonna say we've only got two of the people so far that are in this network right
00:07:15.020 That could be fairly expansive.
00:07:16.960 This is scary stuff.
00:07:18.080 It's very frightening.
00:07:18.960 Very scary stuff.
00:07:19.860 Next one on the docket today, kind of related.
00:07:24.000 And see if we make a connection here.
00:07:25.780 Saskatoon guns and gangs investigation.
00:07:28.520 Youth charged after a shooting.
00:07:30.100 Saskatoon police say that their guns and gangs unit is charged
00:07:32.940 for youth following an investigation into a shooting in the Fairlight Drive area.
00:07:36.740 The case adds to ongoing concerns about youth involvement in violent crime
00:07:40.580 and repeat firearm incidents in Canadian cities
00:07:43.240 and where they're sourcing their inspiration and firearms.
00:07:47.740 So once again, police in Saskatoon facing similar frightening moments.
00:07:54.980 Yeah.
00:07:56.060 Again, you know, on the last show we went into it,
00:07:59.140 the who, what, why, where, how.
00:08:00.840 So that's where I'm kind of, I want to break it down now
00:08:03.520 when you hear these incidents.
00:08:05.040 Why?
00:08:05.460 Why are these young people doing this?
00:08:08.160 You know, who are they?
00:08:10.060 Who's their family?
00:08:10.900 Who are their connections?
00:08:12.080 What is prompting them to take these actions?
00:08:15.420 I'd like to know because, quite frankly, there's got to be a reason.
00:08:18.640 Whether it's psychological, whether it's social, or whether it's criminal.
00:08:22.380 I think we, just to say that it happened, I guess, Mike, where my frustration is coming a little bit,
00:08:27.860 I don't want to do that anymore.
00:08:29.320 I don't think the public wants to hear that anymore.
00:08:31.300 They want to hear, okay, why is this happening?
00:08:34.920 Who prompted them to do it?
00:08:36.420 Why did they do it?
00:08:37.080 Where did they get the gun?
00:08:38.480 Again, where are the guns coming from?
00:08:40.360 This is the thing.
00:08:41.180 it's so wild to me they're recruited through encrypted messaging apps yeah how do you recruit
00:08:47.040 how i need to understand how are you doing this like what do you why do i get on an encrypted
00:08:52.620 messaging app like why all of a sudden do i actually find myself in front of a computer
00:08:57.940 on a map and then i action it how's your headspace as a youth to receive a gun okay what's the
00:09:05.480 process we're gonna set we're gonna mail you a gun yeah go find a gun at learn to shoot it
00:09:10.680 go online and read this do you already have a gun like how like what's the process here to recruit
00:09:16.200 i think it's important that we find this out yeah we got to break these down i think it just you
00:09:19.960 know just reporting them in 30 seconds and never saying oh that's too bad and going on never hearing
00:09:24.520 about it again i will tell you that we reached out to uh toronto police service this week i think
00:09:29.480 they're very busy this week of course they've got uh pretty major uh pretty major things going on
00:09:34.760 here in the city but they did contact me back and say we'll have a conversation about this maybe i'll
00:09:39.880 be able to find out if they have any more detailed connectivity is this a an act of terrorism is this
00:09:47.720 a foreign body is this somebody from within is this cartel related what where where is the
00:09:53.480 the inspiration coming from and why are the youth being able to accept it and act on?