He Didn’t Want a DEBATE… He Wanted a SHOWDOWN
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss a recent incident at Queen's University, where we were invited to debate the controversial issue of gun control. We also discuss Charlie Kirk and his controversial views on the Rapture, and whether or not we agree with them.
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All right guys, we had an interesting experience at Queen's. So another week, another interesting
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story for you guys. This one is a little more exciting and we have some footage for you guys
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too as well. So we took the drive all the way to Queen's University in Kingston and at first
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touch it looked like probably about as liberal as you could get a university to be. Maybe not
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quite u of t liberal but pretty liberal and so we set up the table and this time our sign was
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gun ownership is a right now that's a very provocative statement especially in a liberal
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city and we got some very interesting responses and some people came up and wanted to debate
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but it felt like one of the subjects people don't want to touch so we had a couple conversations
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and then a young man came up and said he was from the queen's journal and he wanted to do a piece
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on us. And he asked me a bunch of questions, and it seemed to go well. I didn't really think too
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much of it, but he stuck around. This young journalist stuck around and actually gathered
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a couple friends, including a photographer, and they kind of stuck around in the vicinity of us.
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But our team was kind of watching them and wondering what was going on, and then things
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started to get interesting. We had a couple groups of rather provoked people on either side of us,
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not on camera and who are obviously provoked and triggered by the sign that I had. So one young
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gentleman came along and it was the conversation really wasn't going that well, but he stuck around
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for a little bit and things were kind of, it was a more interesting conversation. And then another
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young gentleman came along and he seemed fairly triggered and I'm not exactly calm when he came
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up and we he asked for his likeness to not be posted so out of respect we have blurred his
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face and changed his voice so this man is unrecognizable but what he said was so interesting
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that we have to share it and so let's watch what happens this whole interaction is quite interesting
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thank you you're doing a charlie kirk thing obviously or a steven crowder thing or a steven
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crowder thing cool do you agree with both of their positions on largely not steven crowder
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You would agree with Charlie Kirk, then, on all of his positions?
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Most of his positions? Which ones do you disagree with?
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So you're an evangelical Christian who thinks that the rapture will come?
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How do you feel about that? The rapture didn't come the other day?
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See, to say that a prophecy has come true doesn't mean that it won't come true.
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I'm not saying it won't, but it didn't. Your thoughts?
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Okay, there is obviously a logical fallacy here when he says that, oh, the rapture didn't happen
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yesterday, therefore it won't happen. I mean, if you didn't die yesterday, are you going to say
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that you never will die? Obviously not. So there's obviously a logical fallacy here. And there are so
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many prophecies that have been fulfilled in the Bible. Like it's hundreds and hundreds. Like one
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number I've heard tossed around is 900 prophecies that have been fulfilled, which gives me extreme
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faith to know that the prophecies that are there waiting to be fulfilled probably will be anyway
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let's continue coming every other prophecy that when it said that it would come to pass it has
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come to pass so i have an incredible amount of faith to say that will come to pass great so you
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don't agree with all of charlie kirk's positions you're sure the same faith i think that's great
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which one specifically what about the explicit and violent racism and all of the incredible
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homophobia and transphobia that he expunged for his entire career i wouldn't say he was violently
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racist at all in fact i would say so he has an entire subsection of his turning point usa
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dedicated to helping people of color that could be true however uh through his entire career he's
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made very aggressive statements that are anti-people of color he's uh you can look it up
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i'm sure you know it considering your association with the organization you're with and the fact
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that you're doing this so basically my point is is that you agree with most charlie kirk's points
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but you're unwilling to be specific so i'm going to assume you agree with everything
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that makes me that makes me think that you are a fascist thoughts that is an incredibly
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accusatory statement i agree so i don't think and i'll be very bold in this he was not anti-black
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I know you won't give me your name so we can't find you on the internet
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but you'd be willing to go on the record and say that he's not anti-black
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All the clips that are going around out there, say on TikTok or other places, showing that,
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oh, Charlie Kirk was very racist and was a fascist and hated people of color.
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Those would have to have been taken out of context.
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I have watched dozens, maybe even a hundred of this man's videos, and a lot of them are
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talking about issues around like the black community or immigration or things like that.
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This man did not expose any view that would be considered racist. If you take it to the logical
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conclusion that if he had a prejudice against any people group, what he said doesn't make sense
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if you think that he was a racist. But if you look at what he actually said,
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he was obviously not a racist. So the clips that go around on TikTok are taken completely out of
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context. You can make someone say anything if you take just a small clip out of their whole spiel.
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And so I have watched a lot of the clips out of a lot of his speeches and debates,
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and this man was not racist or fascist or anti-trans or anything else.
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And he did not speak against anyone's race. He did not. He made judgments about
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I'm sorry I just have to stop there that was a real compliment
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Why are you asking this particular question in Canada, of all places?
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I think we talk about guns relatively publicly.
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Justin Trudeau made several policy changes while he was in office,
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and each one of those sparked a pretty lively debate.
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But on the street, young people don't seem to talk about it.
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And I think we should have, if we say that we have problems with hate or racism or anything else,
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I think the solution is more conversation, not less.
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because then we can expose these ideas in honest public debate the bad and the
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good ideas can come and clash together and we can actually compare them and
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see which one's actually more truthful that's why fair enough
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It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
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It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
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So this young man's purpose in coming up was actually to create an argument and a scene.
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That's which confirms my theory that he was sent by the paparazzi to cause a scene.
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someone at this point had called the campus police on us. And they were just waiting for
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them to show up. I know that it was either this young gentleman or someone else in the group
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that had had contact with the Queen's Journal paparazzi. I know that they knew that the police
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were coming. They just, they were waiting for it. And he, I'm sure, was a critical part in trying to
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set us up so that we looked really bad and that there was an argument happening when the police
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came. But unfortunately for the left, I am not very good at arguing. I can debate, but it's just
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not in my nature to argue. So they're going to have tough luck in making me really angry.
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It's going to be difficult for them. And this young man, he tried, but you have to applaud
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his effort that he was trying to cause a scene. So this just goes to show that the left, they
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cannot debate. He didn't want to debate. He wanted to make me angry. If their ideas are thrown up
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against our ideas, more often than not, our ideas are going to win just because our ideas are based
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on facts and logic. And for the most part, their ideas aren't. And I know that is extremely,
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extremely provocative, but it's the truth. So they don't want to debate. Instead, they'll come
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up and call us fascists, racists, bigots, grifters. They call us all sorts of names.
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And it just, it doesn't work. It's not good for anyone. And then they get angry when there's,
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when they see a whole bunch of name calling. And his whole purpose here was to show that there was
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an argument going and then try to blame it on me and on my crew. And in the end, then we would be
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the ones that would be punished for it. So just as a lesson for all of us, when we go out there
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and we try to have conversations with these people, and we should, we can't stop. And just
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as a lesson, it doesn't work to fight back because they're going to try and set us up and get us
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arrested. So it doesn't work. And the only solution is to remain calm. The whole story
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gets a little more exciting. So if you guys go on the Queen's Journal website right now,
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the top, one of the top stories is going to be gun rights activist sets up change my mind booth
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on campus. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Queen's Journal. Thank you so much.
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you are doing my advertising for me. I cannot thank you enough. I really can't. So if you pull
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up the article, you'll see a nice big picture of the sign and the setup, which is really,
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it's very humble setup. And just a little background of how this played out. So that
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young man, he walked away. And then we sat there for a minute thinking about whether we should
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leave now because things had gotten a little heated and who knows what they were going to try
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next. So we decided after a minute of sitting there that maybe now was the time to pack up and
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leave. So we did that very calmly. We decided it was our choice whether we pack up and leave.
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And so we had all the table and everything packed up and we were actually walking away.
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And that's when the constables came up to us and confronted us and said they had received a call
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of someone soliciting students on the campus property, which was not the case. We were not
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campus property we were on the sidewalk that is public property now one of the claims that they
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make is that the police made us leave which is not the case at all it's interesting that they showed
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this photo and not the one that they took of us with the police and the reason they did that is
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because they claim in the article that the police forced us to leave which is not the case we packed
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up on our own um and also you have to applaud my team for this when the police were standing there
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with us we were off to the side amongst the bushes and the paparazzi cameraman was right there ready
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to try and take a photo of us with the police but my amazing team they saw this cameraman and make
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sure to give him a big thumbs up and wave at him so that kind of ruined the photo and the vibe that
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they were going for so of course they didn't use that photo it's just it's awesome they're doing
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our advertising for us which is great i i love it i absolutely love it so i can't thank queen's
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journal enough thank you so much all right and this whole situation does kind of put us in mind
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that we might need to start investing in some security especially to keep the peace at these
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debates if things get more heated and we get more popular so you guys can actually help us with that
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if you know of any good bodyguards or retired police officers who would like to help us keep
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the peace and they're in southern ontario then please connect us with them in the comments down
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