Unify Action - October 05, 2025


He Didn’t Want a DEBATE… He Wanted a SHOWDOWN


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13 minutes

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2,374

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93


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00:00:00.000 All right guys, we had an interesting experience at Queen's. So another week, another interesting
00:00:05.980 story for you guys. This one is a little more exciting and we have some footage for you guys
00:00:10.520 too as well. So we took the drive all the way to Queen's University in Kingston and at first
00:00:16.820 touch it looked like probably about as liberal as you could get a university to be. Maybe not
00:00:24.840 quite u of t liberal but pretty liberal and so we set up the table and this time our sign was
00:00:31.980 gun ownership is a right now that's a very provocative statement especially in a liberal
00:00:37.140 city and we got some very interesting responses and some people came up and wanted to debate
00:00:42.380 but it felt like one of the subjects people don't want to touch so we had a couple conversations
00:00:48.040 and then a young man came up and said he was from the queen's journal and he wanted to do a piece
00:00:54.140 on us. And he asked me a bunch of questions, and it seemed to go well. I didn't really think too
00:01:00.920 much of it, but he stuck around. This young journalist stuck around and actually gathered
00:01:05.900 a couple friends, including a photographer, and they kind of stuck around in the vicinity of us.
00:01:10.500 But our team was kind of watching them and wondering what was going on, and then things
00:01:14.240 started to get interesting. We had a couple groups of rather provoked people on either side of us,
00:01:19.840 not on camera and who are obviously provoked and triggered by the sign that I had. So one young
00:01:26.160 gentleman came along and it was the conversation really wasn't going that well, but he stuck around
00:01:32.260 for a little bit and things were kind of, it was a more interesting conversation. And then another
00:01:37.780 young gentleman came along and he seemed fairly triggered and I'm not exactly calm when he came
00:01:43.500 up and we he asked for his likeness to not be posted so out of respect we have blurred his
00:01:50.380 face and changed his voice so this man is unrecognizable but what he said was so interesting
00:01:56.060 that we have to share it and so let's watch what happens this whole interaction is quite interesting
00:02:01.400 thank you you're doing a charlie kirk thing obviously or a steven crowder thing or a steven
00:02:05.700 crowder thing cool do you agree with both of their positions on largely not steven crowder
00:02:10.960 You would agree with Charlie Kirk, then, on all of his positions?
00:02:13.720 On most of them.
00:02:15.220 Most of his positions? Which ones do you disagree with?
00:02:18.080 Specifically.
00:02:20.360 Well, we're both, we share the same faith.
00:02:23.660 So you're an evangelical Christian who thinks that the rapture will come?
00:02:26.880 How do you feel about that? The rapture didn't come the other day?
00:02:30.180 Thoughts?
00:02:31.380 See, to say that a prophecy has come true doesn't mean that it won't come true.
00:02:36.600 I'm not saying it won't, but it didn't. Your thoughts?
00:02:40.240 Okay, there is obviously a logical fallacy here when he says that, oh, the rapture didn't happen
00:02:44.320 yesterday, therefore it won't happen. I mean, if you didn't die yesterday, are you going to say
00:02:48.820 that you never will die? Obviously not. So there's obviously a logical fallacy here. And there are so
00:02:55.360 many prophecies that have been fulfilled in the Bible. Like it's hundreds and hundreds. Like one
00:03:00.020 number I've heard tossed around is 900 prophecies that have been fulfilled, which gives me extreme
00:03:04.480 faith to know that the prophecies that are there waiting to be fulfilled probably will be anyway
00:03:10.380 let's continue coming every other prophecy that when it said that it would come to pass it has
00:03:17.100 come to pass so i have an incredible amount of faith to say that will come to pass great so you
00:03:23.160 don't agree with all of charlie kirk's positions you're sure the same faith i think that's great
00:03:26.620 which one specifically what about the explicit and violent racism and all of the incredible
00:03:32.640 homophobia and transphobia that he expunged for his entire career i wouldn't say he was violently
00:03:38.060 racist at all in fact i would say so he has an entire subsection of his turning point usa
00:03:43.680 dedicated to helping people of color that could be true however uh through his entire career he's
00:03:49.640 made very aggressive statements that are anti-people of color he's uh you can look it up
00:03:54.900 i'm sure you know it considering your association with the organization you're with and the fact
00:03:59.720 that you're doing this so basically my point is is that you agree with most charlie kirk's points
00:04:05.880 but you're unwilling to be specific so i'm going to assume you agree with everything
00:04:08.520 that makes me that makes me think that you are a fascist thoughts that is an incredibly
00:04:16.040 accusatory statement i agree so i don't think and i'll be very bold in this he was not anti-black
00:04:24.700 anti-women
00:04:26.180 anti-trans
00:04:28.880 and you'd be willing to go on the record
00:04:30.640 I know you won't give me your name so we can't find you on the internet
00:04:33.100 which is fair
00:04:34.180 I won't give you mine either
00:04:35.680 but you'd be willing to go on the record and say that he's not anti-black
00:04:38.960 he's not anti-trans, he's none of those things
00:04:40.760 and then if I were to pull up all of the clips
00:04:43.360 from his shows
00:04:44.800 that prove that he has said these things
00:04:47.560 what would you say about that?
00:04:48.920 I would say that I've already watched them
00:04:50.820 okay
00:04:52.680 All the clips that are going around out there, say on TikTok or other places, showing that,
00:04:57.880 oh, Charlie Kirk was very racist and was a fascist and hated people of color.
00:05:04.380 Those would have to have been taken out of context.
00:05:08.080 I have watched dozens, maybe even a hundred of this man's videos, and a lot of them are
00:05:14.140 talking about issues around like the black community or immigration or things like that.
00:05:20.060 This man did not expose any view that would be considered racist. If you take it to the logical
00:05:27.660 conclusion that if he had a prejudice against any people group, what he said doesn't make sense
00:05:33.660 if you think that he was a racist. But if you look at what he actually said,
00:05:39.140 he was obviously not a racist. So the clips that go around on TikTok are taken completely out of
00:05:45.340 context. You can make someone say anything if you take just a small clip out of their whole spiel.
00:05:51.240 And so I have watched a lot of the clips out of a lot of his speeches and debates,
00:05:56.420 and this man was not racist or fascist or anti-trans or anything else.
00:06:03.600 And he did not speak against anyone's race. He did not. He made judgments about
00:06:14.020 their
00:06:15.900 their
00:06:16.420 choices
00:06:18.740 and certain groups of people make
00:06:22.020 bad choices
00:06:23.800 more often than other people do
00:06:25.740 right so you're doing
00:06:27.580 the classic statistical racism
00:06:29.360 you really have your sort of
00:06:31.580 right wing talking points down and I
00:06:33.620 really gotta respect you for that I think it's
00:06:36.140 just well done
00:06:37.460 what a compliment
00:06:38.780 I'm sorry I just have to stop there that was a real compliment
00:06:42.060 thank you whoever you are
00:06:43.940 Why are you asking this particular question in Canada, of all places?
00:06:47.240 Because we don't talk about guns publicly.
00:06:50.980 I think we talk about guns relatively publicly.
00:06:53.240 Justin Trudeau made several policy changes while he was in office,
00:06:56.920 and each one of those sparked a pretty lively debate.
00:07:00.200 But on the street, young people don't seem to talk about it.
00:07:03.140 And I think we should have, if we say that we have problems with hate or racism or anything else,
00:07:09.220 I think the solution is more conversation, not less.
00:07:13.940 because then we can expose these ideas in honest public debate the bad and the
00:07:20.120 good ideas can come and clash together and we can actually compare them and
00:07:23.560 see which one's actually more truthful that's why fair enough
00:07:31.060 It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
00:07:41.560 Okay, did you catch that last little bit?
00:07:45.500 It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
00:07:48.240 So this young man's purpose in coming up was actually to create an argument and a scene.
00:07:53.260 That's which confirms my theory that he was sent by the paparazzi to cause a scene.
00:08:00.420 someone at this point had called the campus police on us. And they were just waiting for
00:08:07.480 them to show up. I know that it was either this young gentleman or someone else in the group
00:08:13.000 that had had contact with the Queen's Journal paparazzi. I know that they knew that the police
00:08:20.080 were coming. They just, they were waiting for it. And he, I'm sure, was a critical part in trying to
00:08:28.060 set us up so that we looked really bad and that there was an argument happening when the police
00:08:32.480 came. But unfortunately for the left, I am not very good at arguing. I can debate, but it's just
00:08:40.580 not in my nature to argue. So they're going to have tough luck in making me really angry.
00:08:46.100 It's going to be difficult for them. And this young man, he tried, but you have to applaud
00:08:53.180 his effort that he was trying to cause a scene. So this just goes to show that the left, they
00:08:59.920 cannot debate. He didn't want to debate. He wanted to make me angry. If their ideas are thrown up
00:09:08.440 against our ideas, more often than not, our ideas are going to win just because our ideas are based
00:09:15.760 on facts and logic. And for the most part, their ideas aren't. And I know that is extremely,
00:09:22.480 extremely provocative, but it's the truth. So they don't want to debate. Instead, they'll come
00:09:27.600 up and call us fascists, racists, bigots, grifters. They call us all sorts of names.
00:09:35.920 And it just, it doesn't work. It's not good for anyone. And then they get angry when there's,
00:09:42.740 when they see a whole bunch of name calling. And his whole purpose here was to show that there was
00:09:48.640 an argument going and then try to blame it on me and on my crew. And in the end, then we would be
00:09:57.040 the ones that would be punished for it. So just as a lesson for all of us, when we go out there
00:10:02.480 and we try to have conversations with these people, and we should, we can't stop. And just
00:10:07.480 as a lesson, it doesn't work to fight back because they're going to try and set us up and get us
00:10:13.520 arrested. So it doesn't work. And the only solution is to remain calm. The whole story
00:10:19.280 gets a little more exciting. So if you guys go on the Queen's Journal website right now,
00:10:26.100 the top, one of the top stories is going to be gun rights activist sets up change my mind booth
00:10:33.740 on campus. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Queen's Journal. Thank you so much.
00:10:41.140 you are doing my advertising for me. I cannot thank you enough. I really can't. So if you pull
00:10:47.300 up the article, you'll see a nice big picture of the sign and the setup, which is really,
00:10:53.520 it's very humble setup. And just a little background of how this played out. So that
00:10:59.380 young man, he walked away. And then we sat there for a minute thinking about whether we should
00:11:03.820 leave now because things had gotten a little heated and who knows what they were going to try
00:11:07.580 next. So we decided after a minute of sitting there that maybe now was the time to pack up and
00:11:13.220 leave. So we did that very calmly. We decided it was our choice whether we pack up and leave.
00:11:19.240 And so we had all the table and everything packed up and we were actually walking away.
00:11:22.860 And that's when the constables came up to us and confronted us and said they had received a call
00:11:28.000 of someone soliciting students on the campus property, which was not the case. We were not
00:11:33.640 campus property we were on the sidewalk that is public property now one of the claims that they
00:11:39.320 make is that the police made us leave which is not the case at all it's interesting that they showed
00:11:46.200 this photo and not the one that they took of us with the police and the reason they did that is
00:11:50.920 because they claim in the article that the police forced us to leave which is not the case we packed
00:11:55.400 up on our own um and also you have to applaud my team for this when the police were standing there
00:12:02.520 with us we were off to the side amongst the bushes and the paparazzi cameraman was right there ready
00:12:08.040 to try and take a photo of us with the police but my amazing team they saw this cameraman and make
00:12:14.840 sure to give him a big thumbs up and wave at him so that kind of ruined the photo and the vibe that
00:12:19.800 they were going for so of course they didn't use that photo it's just it's awesome they're doing
00:12:26.120 our advertising for us which is great i i love it i absolutely love it so i can't thank queen's
00:12:31.560 journal enough thank you so much all right and this whole situation does kind of put us in mind
00:12:36.840 that we might need to start investing in some security especially to keep the peace at these
00:12:41.720 debates if things get more heated and we get more popular so you guys can actually help us with that
00:12:47.000 if you know of any good bodyguards or retired police officers who would like to help us keep
00:12:51.960 the peace and they're in southern ontario then please connect us with them in the comments down
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