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- October 05, 2025
He Didn’t Want a DEBATE… He Wanted a SHOWDOWN
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All right guys, we had an interesting experience at Queen's. So another week, another interesting
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story for you guys. This one is a little more exciting and we have some footage for you guys
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too as well. So we took the drive all the way to Queen's University in Kingston and at first
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touch it looked like probably about as liberal as you could get a university to be. Maybe not
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quite u of t liberal but pretty liberal and so we set up the table and this time our sign was
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gun ownership is a right now that's a very provocative statement especially in a liberal
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city and we got some very interesting responses and some people came up and wanted to debate
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but it felt like one of the subjects people don't want to touch so we had a couple conversations
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and then a young man came up and said he was from the queen's journal and he wanted to do a piece
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on us. And he asked me a bunch of questions, and it seemed to go well. I didn't really think too
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much of it, but he stuck around. This young journalist stuck around and actually gathered
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a couple friends, including a photographer, and they kind of stuck around in the vicinity of us.
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But our team was kind of watching them and wondering what was going on, and then things
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started to get interesting. We had a couple groups of rather provoked people on either side of us,
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not on camera and who are obviously provoked and triggered by the sign that I had. So one young
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gentleman came along and it was the conversation really wasn't going that well, but he stuck around
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for a little bit and things were kind of, it was a more interesting conversation. And then another
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young gentleman came along and he seemed fairly triggered and I'm not exactly calm when he came
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up and we he asked for his likeness to not be posted so out of respect we have blurred his
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face and changed his voice so this man is unrecognizable but what he said was so interesting
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that we have to share it and so let's watch what happens this whole interaction is quite interesting
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thank you you're doing a charlie kirk thing obviously or a steven crowder thing or a steven
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crowder thing cool do you agree with both of their positions on largely not steven crowder
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You would agree with Charlie Kirk, then, on all of his positions?
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On most of them.
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Most of his positions? Which ones do you disagree with?
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Specifically.
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Well, we're both, we share the same faith.
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So you're an evangelical Christian who thinks that the rapture will come?
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How do you feel about that? The rapture didn't come the other day?
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Thoughts?
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See, to say that a prophecy has come true doesn't mean that it won't come true.
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I'm not saying it won't, but it didn't. Your thoughts?
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Okay, there is obviously a logical fallacy here when he says that, oh, the rapture didn't happen
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yesterday, therefore it won't happen. I mean, if you didn't die yesterday, are you going to say
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that you never will die? Obviously not. So there's obviously a logical fallacy here. And there are so
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many prophecies that have been fulfilled in the Bible. Like it's hundreds and hundreds. Like one
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number I've heard tossed around is 900 prophecies that have been fulfilled, which gives me extreme
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faith to know that the prophecies that are there waiting to be fulfilled probably will be anyway
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let's continue coming every other prophecy that when it said that it would come to pass it has
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come to pass so i have an incredible amount of faith to say that will come to pass great so you
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don't agree with all of charlie kirk's positions you're sure the same faith i think that's great
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which one specifically what about the explicit and violent racism and all of the incredible
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homophobia and transphobia that he expunged for his entire career i wouldn't say he was violently
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racist at all in fact i would say so he has an entire subsection of his turning point usa
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dedicated to helping people of color that could be true however uh through his entire career he's
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made very aggressive statements that are anti-people of color he's uh you can look it up
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i'm sure you know it considering your association with the organization you're with and the fact
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that you're doing this so basically my point is is that you agree with most charlie kirk's points
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but you're unwilling to be specific so i'm going to assume you agree with everything
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that makes me that makes me think that you are a fascist thoughts that is an incredibly
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accusatory statement i agree so i don't think and i'll be very bold in this he was not anti-black
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anti-women
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anti-trans
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and you'd be willing to go on the record
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I know you won't give me your name so we can't find you on the internet
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which is fair
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I won't give you mine either
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but you'd be willing to go on the record and say that he's not anti-black
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he's not anti-trans, he's none of those things
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and then if I were to pull up all of the clips
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from his shows
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that prove that he has said these things
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what would you say about that?
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I would say that I've already watched them
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okay
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All the clips that are going around out there, say on TikTok or other places, showing that,
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oh, Charlie Kirk was very racist and was a fascist and hated people of color.
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Those would have to have been taken out of context.
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I have watched dozens, maybe even a hundred of this man's videos, and a lot of them are
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talking about issues around like the black community or immigration or things like that.
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This man did not expose any view that would be considered racist. If you take it to the logical
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conclusion that if he had a prejudice against any people group, what he said doesn't make sense
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if you think that he was a racist. But if you look at what he actually said,
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he was obviously not a racist. So the clips that go around on TikTok are taken completely out of
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context. You can make someone say anything if you take just a small clip out of their whole spiel.
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And so I have watched a lot of the clips out of a lot of his speeches and debates,
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and this man was not racist or fascist or anti-trans or anything else.
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And he did not speak against anyone's race. He did not. He made judgments about
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their
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their
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choices
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and certain groups of people make
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bad choices
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more often than other people do
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right so you're doing
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the classic statistical racism
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you really have your sort of
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right wing talking points down and I
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really gotta respect you for that I think it's
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just well done
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what a compliment
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I'm sorry I just have to stop there that was a real compliment
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thank you whoever you are
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Why are you asking this particular question in Canada, of all places?
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Because we don't talk about guns publicly.
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I think we talk about guns relatively publicly.
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Justin Trudeau made several policy changes while he was in office,
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and each one of those sparked a pretty lively debate.
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But on the street, young people don't seem to talk about it.
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And I think we should have, if we say that we have problems with hate or racism or anything else,
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I think the solution is more conversation, not less.
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because then we can expose these ideas in honest public debate the bad and the
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good ideas can come and clash together and we can actually compare them and
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see which one's actually more truthful that's why fair enough
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It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
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Okay, did you catch that last little bit?
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It's not really fun when you guys don't fight back.
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So this young man's purpose in coming up was actually to create an argument and a scene.
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That's which confirms my theory that he was sent by the paparazzi to cause a scene.
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someone at this point had called the campus police on us. And they were just waiting for
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them to show up. I know that it was either this young gentleman or someone else in the group
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that had had contact with the Queen's Journal paparazzi. I know that they knew that the police
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were coming. They just, they were waiting for it. And he, I'm sure, was a critical part in trying to
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set us up so that we looked really bad and that there was an argument happening when the police
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came. But unfortunately for the left, I am not very good at arguing. I can debate, but it's just
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not in my nature to argue. So they're going to have tough luck in making me really angry.
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It's going to be difficult for them. And this young man, he tried, but you have to applaud
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his effort that he was trying to cause a scene. So this just goes to show that the left, they
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cannot debate. He didn't want to debate. He wanted to make me angry. If their ideas are thrown up
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against our ideas, more often than not, our ideas are going to win just because our ideas are based
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on facts and logic. And for the most part, their ideas aren't. And I know that is extremely,
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extremely provocative, but it's the truth. So they don't want to debate. Instead, they'll come
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up and call us fascists, racists, bigots, grifters. They call us all sorts of names.
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And it just, it doesn't work. It's not good for anyone. And then they get angry when there's,
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when they see a whole bunch of name calling. And his whole purpose here was to show that there was
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an argument going and then try to blame it on me and on my crew. And in the end, then we would be
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the ones that would be punished for it. So just as a lesson for all of us, when we go out there
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and we try to have conversations with these people, and we should, we can't stop. And just
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as a lesson, it doesn't work to fight back because they're going to try and set us up and get us
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arrested. So it doesn't work. And the only solution is to remain calm. The whole story
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gets a little more exciting. So if you guys go on the Queen's Journal website right now,
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the top, one of the top stories is going to be gun rights activist sets up change my mind booth
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on campus. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Queen's Journal. Thank you so much.
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you are doing my advertising for me. I cannot thank you enough. I really can't. So if you pull
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up the article, you'll see a nice big picture of the sign and the setup, which is really,
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it's very humble setup. And just a little background of how this played out. So that
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young man, he walked away. And then we sat there for a minute thinking about whether we should
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leave now because things had gotten a little heated and who knows what they were going to try
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next. So we decided after a minute of sitting there that maybe now was the time to pack up and
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leave. So we did that very calmly. We decided it was our choice whether we pack up and leave.
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And so we had all the table and everything packed up and we were actually walking away.
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And that's when the constables came up to us and confronted us and said they had received a call
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of someone soliciting students on the campus property, which was not the case. We were not
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campus property we were on the sidewalk that is public property now one of the claims that they
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make is that the police made us leave which is not the case at all it's interesting that they showed
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this photo and not the one that they took of us with the police and the reason they did that is
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because they claim in the article that the police forced us to leave which is not the case we packed
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up on our own um and also you have to applaud my team for this when the police were standing there
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with us we were off to the side amongst the bushes and the paparazzi cameraman was right there ready
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to try and take a photo of us with the police but my amazing team they saw this cameraman and make
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sure to give him a big thumbs up and wave at him so that kind of ruined the photo and the vibe that
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they were going for so of course they didn't use that photo it's just it's awesome they're doing
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our advertising for us which is great i i love it i absolutely love it so i can't thank queen's
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journal enough thank you so much all right and this whole situation does kind of put us in mind
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that we might need to start investing in some security especially to keep the peace at these
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debates if things get more heated and we get more popular so you guys can actually help us with that
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if you know of any good bodyguards or retired police officers who would like to help us keep
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the peace and they're in southern ontario then please connect us with them in the comments down
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