Unify Action - September 04, 2026


I Might've Just Talked Him Out of Destroying His Country


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Length

7 minutes

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166.13

Word count

1,265

Sentence count

69


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00:00:00.000 We already see a huge number of wealthy going to the states because their tax system is more fair.
00:00:10.000 A little bit more than welfare.
00:00:14.000 A little bit more? Okay. How much more?
00:00:17.000 Like equal opportunities for everyone.
00:00:21.000 I do believe in equal opportunities.
00:00:23.000 More tax for people having accumulated wealth or earning too much.
00:00:28.000 So I think it should be taxed more.
00:00:30.320 For example, other things like when you receive a ticket, for example.
00:00:35.180 I'm a millionaire.
00:00:35.940 I receive a ticket for 500 pounds, and a guy who earned 2,000 pounds got the same ticket.
00:00:43.160 Traffic ticket, same.
00:00:44.980 I don't think this is justice.
00:00:47.800 Are you from Canada?
00:00:49.380 Yeah, I'm Canadian.
00:00:50.780 Oh, okay.
00:00:51.160 You're talking about pounds, right?
00:00:52.580 Yeah, yeah.
00:00:53.160 And British grade.
00:00:53.920 Yeah, back home Sudan is also based on pounds.
00:00:56.820 Oh, okay.
00:00:57.300 I go more frequently to England as well, so, yeah.
00:01:00.880 Yeah, like, I would say that if you tax the rich, they will stop making money.
00:01:08.180 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:01:09.500 And you need them to make the money in order to take it, right?
00:01:13.220 So, if you tax them too much, they will leave or they will stop making the money?
00:01:17.500 I think this is a point, but I don't think it's a total, you know, like, true.
00:01:23.920 Because they will still make business because they want to.
00:01:27.300 but if they can't I don't say I don't say tax them to extent that they don't
00:01:33.240 make profit because of course but increase the tax more like like okay
00:01:42.240 it's very simple you're making businesses people you make profit for
00:01:46.380 people you have a social duty duty towards this people okay so you need to
00:01:51.420 spend more this is the general idea it's not about like robbing people all their
00:01:55.060 that's not fair even we already have a progressive tax system the rich are
00:01:59.560 already taxed a lot more yeah it's good we're we're still going for we are still
00:02:03.460 going you know in the right direction but for me it's not you know okay yeah
00:02:07.900 it's just more more tax for people and more I think that makes sense right so
00:02:14.280 we already see a huge number of wealthy going to the states because their tax
00:02:19.080 system is more fair so if we tax them even more even more will go right because
00:02:23.600 our economy our economy is already down i agree i agree i agree things like this should be approached
00:02:29.860 like wisely should be some kind of statistics or some kind of studies before you apply such
00:02:36.360 you know policies right because you don't you don't want to apply policies that will hurt the
00:02:40.980 country too like making the you know the capital to escape the country for other you know places
00:02:46.280 where they can help it's just a kind of you know keeping the balance i know like already we're
00:02:52.520 seeing the wealthy flee right and even mark carney who says that he wants like universal basic income
00:02:59.300 which is a welfare system or stuff like that even he has taken his money his company's money
00:03:05.420 and it's put into a tax haven a tax-free haven in bermuda it is hypocrisy it is but that's what
00:03:13.220 rich people will do with their money right so i don't it's not that easy frankly it's not an
00:03:18.940 But I mean, generally speaking, we need the rich, you know, to contribute more to the society.
00:03:27.940 Yeah, I think it should be fair.
00:03:29.940 But not to the extent that they don't make profit or to the extent that they're unhappy and then they leave the country with the money.
00:03:35.940 This is not all right.
00:03:37.940 Yeah. So are you creating a new party or is it the NDP?
00:03:41.940 No, not here. I'm creating a new party overseas. Here, Canada is good. Actually, we wanted to apply something like Canada overseas.
00:03:47.940 I'm Canadian, I'm Sudanese-Canadian, I come from Sudan, but I think the Canadian system
00:03:56.940 is actually very cool.
00:03:57.940 It's one of the best systems in the world.
00:03:59.940 So if you can build something close to this, not the same, but close, it will make better.
00:04:06.940 I would suggest that you look at the system that they have in Sweden and Denmark.
00:04:13.940 No, I checked that one as well. I have Switzerland. And England. I checked all of them.
00:04:19.940 But the population of Sudan is the same as the population of Canada.
00:04:22.940 Canada is diverse. Sudan is diverse. There are some similarities, you know, even the economy.
00:04:28.340 Like Sudan economy is based on agriculture and minerals. Canada is the same thing.
00:04:32.980 So there are some similarities. So that's why.
00:04:35.720 As you said, maybe we will try to do something like take the goods from Canada, Switzerland, England, and Sweden and try to apply them.
00:04:47.720 Yeah, because in Sweden they tried to tax the rich. They put like inheritance taxes, wealth taxes and different things like that.
00:04:54.720 And the rich left the country. So we can see what happens when you overtax the rich or even tax them like more than they already are taxed.
00:05:03.720 So like in New York, where Dora Mamdani is putting socialist ideas into place, he's lost like 12 billion dollars in revenue since he became the mayor of New York, and he needs the state now to bail him out.
00:05:19.140 So people are like, oh, they're hailing his project as like a success, but he already needs state money. He can't even sustain his own projects, right?
00:05:28.520 so that's what happens like I would caution you against faxing the rich far
00:05:34.880 more than they should be luckily luckily in the case of Sudan we don't have this
00:05:39.140 like very rich people yet yeah so it's kind of most most of the people are in
00:05:46.160 the same level you be able that due to corruptions accumulate some wealth but
00:05:51.200 Not to the extent of, you know, the West, like, name it, Canada, U.S., so, maybe, there
00:05:58.560 it will, we have, like, much more chance, you know, to build such a system, because
00:06:04.200 we're gonna start, like, somewhere, you know, like, in the bottom, if I can say, you know,
00:06:09.920 because we don't have that, like, very high classes, very low classes, like, most of the
00:06:17.360 people in the middle.
00:06:18.360 That's good.
00:06:19.360 Yeah.
00:06:20.360 I would say that I've been looking at a lot of political systems and the system that seems to work best to alleviate poverty, to get people out of poverty, which I think that is what you're trying to do.
00:06:32.980 Part of it is actually open up the economy and incentivize job growth, like outside of the government, let the private sector do its job.
00:06:42.960 And the more jobs there are, the more the employers, the rich people, will compete for workers, the higher the wages.
00:06:53.320 I think this is a good idea.
00:06:54.620 That's how it works.
00:06:55.760 I agree.
00:06:56.440 So, like in Canada, we're screaming about minimum wage being bad and the lack of jobs and people not being able to afford stuff.
00:07:05.620 But the reason is because our economy is not growing.
00:07:08.620 our economy is going down which means that we're losing jobs so if you have
00:07:14.620 more people to the jobs that you have to fill then the the wages will go down
00:07:19.780 because they don't have the employers don't have to compete for workers
00:07:22.840 exactly right so you want to you want that competition
00:07:26.660 supply and demand yeah exactly right so it's in jobs and it's also in the market
00:07:32.540 yes thank you so much all right it was great talking to you