Unify Action - October 24, 2026


She Blamed Everything On “The SYSTEM＂ - Then I Challenged Her With Reality

＂He's Telling Us What To Do!＂ - Trump Sent This Guy OVER The Edge

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00:00:00.000 Yeah, our health care system is fundamentally flawed,
00:00:02.320 but that doesn't come from a place where socialism is lacking.
00:00:04.960 We're in the later stages of capitalism that are driving up housing prices,
00:00:08.760 that are harming minorities.
00:00:10.760 A lot of issues can be derived from is capitalist.
00:00:15.080 Capitalism is better.
00:00:16.600 Socialism is downright, like, bad.
00:00:19.200 Like, it doesn't work.
00:00:21.600 In comparison to, like...
00:00:23.040 In comparison to capitalism, capitalism has worked better.
00:00:26.640 Historically, if you look at numbers, if you look at...
00:00:28.960 If you look at the number of people that have been elevated out of poverty simply because of capitalism, it's way more.
00:00:34.740 And socialism has actually resulted in poverty in many cases.
00:00:38.500 Okay, but is it not just capitalism a bit more focused on the individual and individual success rather than the whole of a state?
00:00:47.640 Right, but we are also individuals, and we crave success, and we do crave self-preservation.
00:00:53.680 But we're also a collective species. We survive better in the community.
00:00:57.080 And when we agree to be within a state, we're kind of entering a social contract with the state.
00:01:02.500 Yes.
00:01:02.800 With the representatives as people who are designated to serve the people of the state.
00:01:06.980 So in comparison to capitalism, I think socialism has the goal of providing for all
00:01:12.000 rather than just providing for a few select people who get lucky or win the lottery.
00:01:15.980 It can have that goal, but does it actually do that in practice?
00:01:19.600 Well, yeah, Canada has socialist elements.
00:01:21.620 For example, like above age 65, you get a Canadian pension plan,
00:01:26.240 meaning that you get money each year our health care system is free because we pay into it our
00:01:30.240 education system is much more subsidized because we pay into stuff like that so like the health
00:01:35.480 care system is inefficient in terms of it's being defunded provincial provincially so that's on a
00:01:41.380 federal issue but okay well because health care is a is an issue of the province yes it is but
00:01:48.680 actually it's defunded hence the reason the program we pay into isn't working as successfully
00:01:53.040 because we're taking money out of it at a provincial level
00:01:55.220 rather than a federal level?
00:01:56.960 I don't think that's actually what's causing the problems.
00:02:00.620 Like in health care or just in general?
00:02:02.760 In health care, yeah, for sure.
00:02:04.080 I think we have plenty of funding.
00:02:06.440 It's just that people, we cannot keep nurses and doctors in there.
00:02:10.100 It is such a slow, such a stressful,
00:02:12.820 like there's not enough actual people resources,
00:02:16.520 not money resources, people resources, right?
00:02:19.160 So we got so many people, and this is an issue of the government,
00:02:22.260 they allowed too many people into our nation to actually like way more than we have the services
00:02:28.380 for. Unfortunately Canada is a multicultural nation. Canada being built up is based on 1.00
00:02:33.460 immigration. Since federally we've lacked proper immigration law for maybe the past 10-20 years
00:02:38.540 but like overall Canada is stronger as a nation because we have people coming from diverse
00:02:42.780 cultures that can bring that over here. Right but what happens when we have too many people coming
00:02:47.060 in too quickly? Well that's not a fundamentally socialist issue that's a fundamentally just
00:02:51.220 But it's an issue of the government.
00:02:53.340 Yeah, but that's different from socialism.
00:02:54.780 We can still have a functioning state involving socialism 0.96
00:02:57.620 or a capitalist state that fails with immigration. 0.74
00:03:01.440 America's a very capitalist state and is still failing immigration.
00:03:05.020 Well, in what way?
00:03:07.080 They've had issues with immigration or policy,
00:03:09.660 or we've seen administrations try and crack down
00:03:12.200 on too many people coming into the nation against what policy would say.
00:03:16.160 So every nation struggles at this point with it.
00:03:18.780 they were struggling with too much immigration coming in at one point,
00:03:22.620 and that's why they cracked down.
00:03:24.320 Yeah, but it's the same thing.
00:03:26.500 Capitalists, socialists, both are struggling with that.
00:03:28.440 That's not so much an ideological of capitalism or socialism.
00:03:31.860 That's because there's a policy failure on some end.
00:03:34.700 Right.
00:03:36.020 But again, okay, maybe we should define our socialism.
00:03:39.340 Well, socialism is just government comes in to give a helping hand
00:03:41.900 to certain social programs.
00:03:43.640 Well, socialism is government-run industry.
00:03:46.140 Yeah.
00:03:47.100 So government-held industry.
00:03:48.240 so we'd agree that is socialism so part of the reason that health care is bad in canada
00:03:54.880 is because of too many people brought in but it is slow there is no development there's no
00:04:01.960 it is not versatile or quick and that's one of the reasons that these problems are just
00:04:06.380 continuing and continuing is because it's a social welfare program like health care right so
00:04:12.080 it is not doing well because it is government run it is not versatile it's not quick resources are
00:04:19.240 not getting where they need to be and i think that's a feeling of the government i can appreciate
00:04:23.720 the fact that yeah our health care system is fundamentally flawed but that doesn't come from
00:04:27.680 a place where socialism is lacking i think it really comes from a place that we have underdeveloped
00:04:33.160 the industry and but honestly i think it's better that we have it the way we do right now while
00:04:38.640 trying to make tweaks to it because oh yeah that's thinking about things they're friendly
00:04:44.000 but because we have people in this nation who are unable to afford paying the luxury of getting
00:04:51.100 premium health care like you would in america the ability to be able to go to the er and be
00:04:55.520 helped with the issues that otherwise if we were in a place like america where you have to pay for
00:04:59.400 that would go unnoticed so while there is downsides to both capitalism socialism the more the one that
00:05:05.680 serves the people better and provides more opportunity for people who are lower income
00:05:09.180 is in fact socialism okay but i think we both have agreed that social welfare in canada health
00:05:17.700 care in canada is not very good but what are you advocating for more government-run industries is
00:05:24.360 that what you want more programs more wealthy distribution what what is your i personally
00:05:29.180 believe in a restructuring of the government but that's just because i'm a political science
00:05:32.720 students. So we look a lot into the idea of fundamental failures in terms of government.
00:05:37.180 I don't think that we've ever, in our whole extent of what we've had now, like the Westminster
00:05:41.760 system, seen a government that has effectively performed in terms of a socialist structure.
00:05:47.780 But I still ideologically believe that socialism would be a better functioning thing in compared
00:05:52.340 to capitalism, because as we see now, we're in the later stages of capitalism that are
00:05:56.880 driving up housing prices that are harming minorities or a lot of issues can be derived
00:06:02.600 from is it is capitalist right but we we are becoming more socialist and the more socialists
00:06:11.180 we become the more programs the more government spending the more debt the more inflation the
00:06:15.760 worse things are so i would say that our problems are not necessarily capitalist the problems with
00:06:20.420 housing are not necessarily capitalist it's inflation and lack of supply and regulation
00:06:25.620 Well, we live in a capitalist system.
00:06:28.320 The World Trade Organization dominates in a capitalist order.
00:06:32.220 So there's no way for a state to function socially in a capitalist world.
00:06:36.220 You're never going to get a completely social state.
00:06:38.140 You're going to get a social capitalist state who believes in free market procedure,
00:06:43.060 but also some social programs, which is very similar to what Canada would believe in.
00:06:47.220 I don't think capitalism is doing any good for the world.
00:06:50.400 In terms of the housing crisis, let's bring it down to a more local level when we think of gentrification.
00:06:55.140 We have people who are often better off going into communities,
00:06:58.200 buying out places where lower-income people typically would have lived,
00:07:01.820 improving them, renovating them, getting more people to want to come to that area, 0.99
00:07:05.080 but in the same time kicking out people who were originally living there
00:07:07.960 and now producing more inequality than to begin with.
00:07:10.880 But those people are only lucky in the system we live in
00:07:13.300 because capitalism benefits individuals, not a society.
00:07:17.360 So if we're really picky about it,
00:07:20.400 socialism would benefit more people than capitalism
00:07:22.960 because it's not a one individual run all it's the people work together okay how would you see
00:07:28.720 socialism helping the housing industry like we're talking about that so how would socialism help it
00:07:33.680 it's kind of hard to take it in at this point because the housing industry is fundamentally
00:07:38.700 flawed in any province in canada but theoretically how could it help i mean if we were looking at
00:07:45.680 the building of more homes that were rent controlled for the ability for people to
00:07:49.760 purchase at a place where rent stays solid and solidified at that rate for a period of time but
00:07:55.080 of course you need to find the money we don't have the money and we don't have the money because
00:07:59.060 we've lived in a capitalist estate since the beginning of nation-state building so right so
00:08:05.060 we're talking about incentivizing people like who's going to build these apartments these houses
00:08:11.040 that are going to be rent controlled well that creates jobs right right but like is the government
00:08:15.820 going to build them is private industry going to build them like who's going to build them
00:08:19.240 it could be a government project but okay like
00:08:21.960 because like historically there's been a lot of experimentation with rent control
00:08:28.700 a lot so we have a lot of case studies to look at to see what happens when you rent control something
00:08:33.560 rent control houses so one of them being new york where they've had a lot of rent control in the
00:08:39.660 70s and the home owners these the people who owned the apartments were like screw this i'm
00:08:46.720 going to get more money from the insurance the fire insurance on my apartment than I am from
00:08:52.100 the tenants in there now so they built they burnt down their apartments right so but that's like an
00:08:57.620 extreme case right it's also the individual again right like okay but we want to benefit the majority
00:09:03.040 do the most good for the most ton of people so then it would have to be government run if you
00:09:07.540 want anything built it would have to be government run because when we privately run a rent controlled
00:09:11.980 housing industry houses don't get built office spaces do not houses so you would talk about
00:09:18.740 government-run something government-run building or fueled or whatever and that I think would be
00:09:26.600 slow I don't think you would be building enough and there would probably not be enough supply
00:09:31.380 ever because when something is artificially lower than the demand says that it should be
00:09:35.640 people are going to take more right so someone might actually have more than one apartment or
00:09:40.320 something and we would have like that's what tends to happen when you have rent controlled
00:09:44.880 anything yeah i don't think that capitalism is the root of all the evil but i don't think
00:09:50.020 capitalism is a functioning system anymore we're seeing it now where we have people like
00:09:54.340 uh elon musk who has billions of dollars but then we see people halfway across the world who can't
00:09:59.420 can't even afford to eat the capitalism system is not fair to everyone even us now walking around
00:10:05.160 we're privileged to be in the position we are but yet we must we're closer to being broke completely
00:10:10.200 than we are to ever getting to a point like Elon Musk.
00:10:12.900 Capitalism is very individualistic, and it wants us to individualize ourselves
00:10:16.680 because it's easier to gain political power or leverage in those cases.
00:10:21.920 Right, but we used to be able to build more wealth.
00:10:25.740 Things were better for us when we had more of a capitalist society.
00:10:28.940 Like, you're saying that we can't grow, we can't be better as human beings,
00:10:33.520 as a society, if we're capitalists, but I would disagree.
00:10:36.720 I think it incentivizes us to be better, to work harder and to build something good for us.
00:10:42.360 Like if you look at the people that have actually built wealth for themselves, like not just the Elon Musk, but like the Jeff, the Mark Zuckerbergs and the other people, they worked night and day.
00:10:52.260 They slept like four hours every night and worked the rest and they built something good for themselves.
00:10:57.560 And I think that's what capitalism does is it gives someone the freedom to do that.
00:11:01.960 And if someone doesn't want to work as hard, then they have a job.
00:11:05.640 If you have a growing economy, then you at least have a job.
00:11:08.800 I can appreciate that, yes, somebody might work hard,
00:11:12.260 but you should not have to work that hard to be able to live comfortably in a society.
00:11:16.380 Okay. I still think that you should have to work.
00:11:20.640 I'm not saying you don't have to work.
00:11:22.000 I don't believe in the whole ideology of the people who are on welfare programs
00:11:25.280 or the people who are benefiting are doing this because they don't want to work.
00:11:28.160 They're doing it because they're put in positions like long-term disability
00:11:31.260 or people who from a young age have been disabled
00:11:34.400 or people who are unable to work for other such reasons.
00:11:36.740 They're not doing it because they don't want to work.
00:11:38.280 They're doing it because they're unable to at a certain point of time.
00:11:40.900 If I was to injure myself right now, I would get paid unemployment insurance
00:11:45.120 because I paid into that working my previous job,
00:11:48.240 but it wouldn't be enough to cover certain stuff.
00:11:50.780 So they're getting a fraction of what they would have made,
00:11:53.760 which is not as much money.
00:11:54.820 And arguably, the taxes that we actually pay into it,
00:11:57.920 we pay into a pool of funding.
00:12:00.040 The amount that we actually contribute from our personal taxes is miniscule
00:12:03.760 compared to the amount we pay and other such taxes.
00:12:06.760 Okay.
00:12:07.200 So you should not have to work 20 hours of the 24-hour day to be able to survive.
00:12:14.840 Right. No, I totally agree.
00:12:15.680 You shouldn't have two jobs to be able to survive.
00:12:17.660 You shouldn't need three.
00:12:18.500 You should have one paying a livable wage.
00:12:20.620 Every time we see minimum wage go up, now we see inflation rise everywhere else.
00:12:24.040 So we're making it so much harder for younger generations to get in a position
00:12:27.580 where they're able to work a job and live comfortably.
00:12:29.600 and that all comes down to because we've lived in a capitalist system since the existence of
00:12:34.380 nation states i think actually getting jobs that pay a livable wage is not so much about raising
00:12:40.640 minimum wage because minimum wage is the starter job like the 14 to 16 year old that would
00:12:45.300 oh i don't need to keep raising it i'm yeah i think we should keep raising the economy we keep
00:12:50.040 yes to build the economy we need to create new jobs to diversify opportunity to enter into
00:12:56.380 different trade partners internationally but everyone in the world is in a deficit right now
00:13:02.080 i don't think there's a country that is benefiting more than say china right now with manufacturing
00:13:06.580 and such they control 32 percent of the world's manufacturing and compared to america which was 0.76
00:13:11.880 seen as glory days they control 17 a capitalist state so but again economically china is fascist 0.74
00:13:21.880 i'm not saying they're a good example i'm just saying that really the only nation right now that 0.95
00:13:26.640 is benefiting off of our world order is china and they're kind of cheating right so well they 1.00
00:13:32.780 got a really easy in right they we brought them into the world trade organization under under the 1.00
00:13:38.460 capitalist system that's the ideology of as long as you don't do anything bad we're going to keep
00:13:43.500 you in here and but we isolated partners like russia so right and i think we're we kind of 0.80
00:13:51.820 have a double standard now where we've we've let china in for so long that we just we're turning a 0.98
00:13:57.680 blind eye because we're so dependent on them now we've let them they flooded our market with cheap 1.00
00:14:02.440 goods they're like they're exploiting their workers to do that right so they're like a like
00:14:08.180 overall they're a bad country they're a bad trading partner and they're being predatory with
00:14:12.840 their their pricing their everything else and it is it's very bad like they basically their economy
00:14:20.120 is fascist where it's like sort of private market like sort of privately owned but government 0.73
00:14:25.960 dictated and they're being aggressive like a lot of people probably don't know how aggressive China
00:14:31.100 is in Canada right so they are buying a property in PEI to like control yeah is that not because
00:14:39.920 in fact they are doing exactly what capitalism wants they're doing what the state wants yeah
00:14:47.300 the tiny state that but that's what capitalism wants us to do it wants a benefactor they want
00:14:52.760 somebody okay in a state of capitalism you yourself are in fact the product you are being sold your
00:14:59.840 time is being sold because you have to work so hard to get to a point where you can actually
00:15:04.340 live when you say people are they're exploiting young labor they're exploiting people because
00:15:09.540 you are the product in capitalism you're the one being sold for it's really common right now with
00:15:14.100 if you have free apps that are ai your your data is being sold because that's what is being used
00:15:20.200 to train ai bots but that's capitalism in a nutshell that's what capitalism wants it wants
00:15:25.820 to be able to individualize people and sell their time as the product so okay but like i'm not saying
00:15:33.540 that capitalism doesn't have failings but i'm saying that socialism is been historically
00:15:38.800 verifiably worse but we also haven't seen a fully socialist state where where there wasn't
00:15:44.460 interference from western powers to get it to remain a capitalist state i would disagree with
00:15:50.940 that we've seen it in like sweden finland denmark we've also seen in like southeast asian company
00:15:56.740 asian countries and other places right so like we've seen it in africa we've seen it like there's
00:16:01.300 a lot more than africa though that is outside of just socialism being the issue like right
00:16:06.060 The United States have been trying to get into Africa for a very long time because the United States is only a regional hegemon.
00:16:11.260 It holds most of its power in the Western sphere. 0.58
00:16:13.940 So that's why it's trying to branch out to gain power in the Middle East, in Africa. 0.87
00:16:18.540 That's why we see China in Africa because China's building up Africa.
00:16:22.180 It's signing trade deals.
00:16:23.500 It's signing, like, I'm trying to remember the right word for this, but, like, you get to sign in and there's no penalty or whatever with these certain, they're building up companies.
00:16:33.160 Do you think that the U.S. is being aggressive because China's being aggressive?
00:16:39.340 You're entering more into there of a security kind of dilemma type or power transition theory
00:16:43.800 when we're looking at the fact that the United States were moving from what was considered a unipolar world
00:16:47.960 to a more multipolar world because of economic domination from China and India.
00:16:52.260 Both places are experiencing rapid economic development, both of which were considered and still are considered developing nations.
00:16:58.980 United States has been in the position where they've held most of the economic or corporate control for a very long time.
00:17:03.960 And now they're watching that dissipate.
00:17:05.460 And they also just don't have the capabilities to take on somebody such as China if they were to escalate to a military situation.
00:17:12.320 So, yeah, they've been trying to deal with China for 20, 30, 40 years now.
00:17:15.960 Like they've been trying to nub it in the butt before it's got to the point we're here.
00:17:19.300 That's why we see people like Trump, people like Joe Biden, all trying to produce policy to make sure China remains dormant and happy and satisfied with the system.
00:17:29.920 But it is also a system like capitalism that has allowed for a diversifying of the global economy, right?
00:17:37.920 Where you see China rising and the U.S. trying to compete.
00:17:41.860 They're competing.
00:17:43.040 Yeah, but disproportionately.
00:17:44.020 We have people in the United States who aren't making a living wage and are in a large percentage of poverty.
00:17:48.460 like okay there but i think a growing economy and that bit of competition will actually help them
00:17:55.540 grow and create more jobs we saw trump trying to do this with the bring the whole jobs home thing
00:18:01.900 where they were trying to bring it all back home and really hasn't had much success in terms of
00:18:06.120 that capitalism is unfortunately could have been a very promising system but it just has not been
00:18:12.320 because if it was we would all have the opportunity to be millionaires millionaires and we just don't
00:18:17.740 if we had a freer economy i think we would have the opportunity i can appreciate the perspective
00:18:24.500 but i just don't think it's really i don't think we're at a place where that's actually possible
00:18:29.120 given the order like the world in which we're at i think now it's more difficult but i think
00:18:34.760 still technically you anybody if they work hard enough make wise enough choices and like
00:18:39.820 also put in a little bit of risk to themselves if they work hard enough i think they could
00:18:44.840 potentially become a millionaire like why does it have choices with ai now i think yeah anyone
00:18:50.540 could be a millionaire it's a risky industry it is but it's also lucrative i can i can appreciate
00:18:56.900 where you're coming from and i don't think you're necessarily wrong in certain points i just
00:19:00.100 personally believe that socialism has more benefits for more people rather than just taking a very
00:19:04.100 individualistic perspective so yeah i can't i'm not going to sit here and say to be able to prove
00:19:09.400 to you why socialism is not a scam because that's dependent on how you feel you've been treated by
00:19:13.840 the system and if you feel you've been not benefited by it or you've not been benefited
00:19:17.860 by the social programs that exist then I really I can't I'm not here to change your opinion yeah
00:19:22.640 but my opinion on socialism is not necessarily what I've experienced it's what I've actually
00:19:26.500 empirically seen by my research and everything else that I've looked at in how socialism has
00:19:32.420 worked it's not necessarily my opinion or my experience that I'm going on it's actual data
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