Unify Action - October 20, 2026


＂He's Telling Us What To Do!＂ - Trump Sent This Guy OVER The Edge

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Sarah Dotzert
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Trump Mark Carney Trudeau Jerome Powell
＂They Treated Us Like Slaves!＂ - Costco Made Him A Leftist

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00:00:00.000 If we look at where America is going, it is going against, like, democracy, the rule of law, typically.
00:00:04.580 Trump was like, you need to remove certain free speech regulations that you have in Canada.
00:00:09.020 Think about that. Like, he's telling a thing that's completely exclusive from our economy.
00:00:13.360 He's like, guys, you gotta change how you talk about free speech.
00:00:17.660 A few minutes ago, you said that Trudeau was generally bad, not an economist.
00:00:22.220 I would say that Trudeau did not spend money particularly real.
00:00:24.840 I would agree with you.
00:00:25.600 That administration was bad. I don't think, he's not an economist, he doesn't understand these things.
00:00:28.360 would you say that mark carney is better because he's like an economist um well i'm not going to
00:00:32.900 say like he's he's better just because he's an economist i i prefer his economic prescriptions
00:00:37.700 as opposed to trudeau 100 okay but like just looking at everything though he's like he hasn't
00:00:44.260 added a net positive to our economy like even okay yes you could say there's a trade war but
00:00:49.200 he's actually flaming that up for his own personal gains to like win by elections and different things
00:00:53.680 like that but i may disagree i may disagree but we can we can move past that yeah so he he's
00:01:00.720 actually not doing he's not reducing regulation he's not actually doing anything to open up the
00:01:05.340 economy which he should be doing he's like he's frankly not not he doesn't have good economics
00:01:11.960 well he's uh he's shrinking uh i saw something where he's shrinking the amount of people in
00:01:16.280 government or changing the positions of people like people like the finance ministry and the
00:01:20.000 things people overseeing on those things um also like he is um it's economic it's politically hard
00:01:27.100 to um basically get the provinces to coordinate i think that's one of his overarching goals is to
00:01:32.160 better to basically it's like making a free market between the canadian provinces because
00:01:36.220 there's lots of friction points in between yeah yeah like he sort of did that he removed like
00:01:41.340 only like a fraction of what actually needed to be well these are politically hard things to do
00:01:45.520 so it's going to take time um and also he he's pro like okay we need to build out energy and
00:01:52.240 oil infrastructure and oil pipelines from like alberta to the west coast um like and he's actually
00:01:58.780 not doing that but you don't think he's doing that no i don't think he is see all he's doing
00:02:03.360 is signing oh we'll think about it we're thinking about thinking about it but other people are
00:02:10.380 going to have the veto on this like if they don't want to happen it's not going to happen so but i
00:02:15.380 I don't know if that's necessarily his fault, but that's the issue of how Canada's political system works.
00:02:19.280 He's giving other people the veto. He's not actually trying to do it.
00:02:22.900 I have to do more research into this, but that's my general opinion on that.
00:02:28.280 I'd say his global ideals of increasing economic integration between middle-powered countries is a very good idea.
00:02:35.460 It's a risk reduction.
00:02:37.760 He did his PhD in game theory, and I think that's kind of prevalent in how he's navigating this geopolitical moment.
00:02:45.380 And I think his end goals are to increase the amount of trade Canada is engaging in with as many countries as possible.
00:02:52.460 Yeah, like, I think in general, that would be a good thing.
00:02:55.840 But at the same time, we shouldn't be cutting off deliberately trying to sabotage trade with the United States, which is what I'm kind of seeing.
00:03:02.600 He literally, he's walking away.
00:03:04.780 If you looked at some of the deals, I think one of the last deals that they're going to promote with the U.S. and Canada, I forget the specifics of it.
00:03:12.740 and you might call me on that but um there were some concessions in there that were put in at
00:03:20.960 like the final hour that would make it very unoptimal and very bad for canada in the long
00:03:25.780 term there will be friction with disintegrating and decoupling with the united states this is a
00:03:30.460 known fact i think everybody's aware of this um but if we look at this where america is going it
00:03:36.600 is america is becoming an illiberal place not liberal republican illiberal like capital l
00:03:41.560 and it's becoming a very
00:03:43.360 volatile trade partner
00:03:45.120 define illiberal for me
00:03:47.540 illiberal just means like people
00:03:49.480 going against like
00:03:50.760 people going against like
00:03:53.400 democracy, the rule of law typically
00:03:55.080 they're dismantling institutions
00:03:57.540 they are
00:03:59.360 like, they're making
00:04:01.260 it harder for like the free market
00:04:03.480 necessarily to operate
00:04:04.600 they are like
00:04:06.340 I wouldn't
00:04:11.540 say that's what
00:04:13.580 we're seeing with them. I think he's actually
00:04:15.520 trying to stimulate the economy and the free market.
00:04:17.400 Trump is trying to stimulate the economy, but I don't
00:04:19.520 think he's doing... By, like, reducing regulation.
00:04:22.100 Oh, and governments. He is doing a lot of
00:04:23.420 government spending, and he was putting a lot of
00:04:25.460 pressure onto Jerome Powell to decrease
00:04:27.380 the interest rates, which would speed up the economy.
00:04:29.900 But this is neither here nor there.
00:04:32.340 I just find...
00:04:33.460 I guess these are just my opinions
00:04:35.420 on... That was my opinion on Mark Carney. Right, yeah.
00:04:37.160 I think he's doing an alright job. I think anybody
00:04:39.340 in his position right now, I would say this
00:04:41.420 If there was a PolyEvan office, I would say this.
00:04:43.600 If there was anybody else, it will be hard for Canada.
00:04:46.720 I don't think we should necessarily concede to the United States demands now.
00:04:50.860 We shouldn't give up too much ground because if we do, we're never getting it back.
00:04:55.060 And I think it's wise to integrate with partners around the world.
00:04:58.720 This is the same idea as like, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
00:05:01.900 We shouldn't tie our economy to one person.
00:05:04.500 And I would agree with you.
00:05:05.280 We should diversify.
00:05:06.820 But there are some things that I'm seeing that aren't necessarily good.
00:05:10.920 like why like yes let's diversify our trade but why do we need to be a member of the eu
00:05:17.340 like oh we're not it would be an associate member and we could argue that back and forth and it's
00:05:22.120 not like i'm necessarily for or really against it but what it does say it's we're not going to be
00:05:27.040 as politically integrated as a eu member as a associate member from my understanding we are
00:05:32.740 integrated um economically we have better free we have more lively free trade in like um uh easy
00:05:39.580 i would imagine it's going to be closer like visa-free labor which could increase the economic
00:05:43.540 output i don't think that's what they're looking at you don't think there's visa-free labor that
00:05:48.380 would that's well no like so what what they're uh what they're trying to do with the eu the deal
00:05:53.880 that they're the deal that they're proposing is literally just trade or not not trade it's
00:06:00.320 literally just like stuff that we could do with a trade deal or like a like a understanding okay
00:06:05.140 okay, we're going to collaborate on military.
00:06:07.060 That's what they're thinking of.
00:06:08.440 It's literally just a trade thing.
00:06:10.980 We do collaborate on military.
00:06:12.240 We already do.
00:06:12.800 We're strengthening our ties.
00:06:14.920 But I don't understand the label.
00:06:16.840 Why do we need to be a member of something like that?
00:06:18.420 I don't know.
00:06:18.860 It's probably just for a symbolic victory,
00:06:21.160 showing we're strong and we necessarily don't need the U.S.
00:06:25.060 or something like that.
00:06:25.900 I don't really care for labels.
00:06:27.140 I just care about practically what it does.
00:06:28.660 I think it's probably a good economic move.
00:06:31.400 Okay.
00:06:31.580 I would agree that having a new CETA, I think, is what we have now with the EU.
00:06:36.220 I would agree that we should have maybe more trade.
00:06:38.420 But even right now, 99% of what we trade with the EU is tariff-free, which means we have access to a lot.
00:06:44.320 The only thing that's being held off, of course, is dairy, poultry, and other places that are quota-regulated in Canada.
00:06:50.000 So it's not necessarily a more free market-stimulating trade that we're going to have.
00:06:54.100 It's going to be, oh, hey, we're going to collaborate on military and AI and quantum.
00:07:01.840 But that's stuff we could do without being more subject to their membership rules or whatever they come up with.
00:07:09.380 We're less subject to their membership rules than a full membership.
00:07:13.620 And I would agree with you.
00:07:14.360 I really don't care what they call it.
00:07:15.660 I think it's generally probably a good idea.
00:07:18.180 I don't really care for the label.
00:07:20.860 It doesn't really matter to me.
00:07:22.220 I hope they do visa-free labor.
00:07:23.680 I think that would be quite helpful for the economy.
00:07:25.560 Okay, you were thinking visa-free labor,
00:07:30.360 but the immigration minister now is saying,
00:07:34.060 hey, let's increase immigration again.
00:07:35.940 We need to stimulate the economy. 0.99
00:07:37.220 Let's increase immigration. 0.99
00:07:38.700 But we don't have jobs for enough people.
00:07:40.960 What are your thoughts on that?
00:07:42.200 I don't think we should blindly increase immigration.
00:07:45.040 Immigration, in a lot of ways, can be very beneficial for the economy.
00:07:49.020 Specifically right now, I'm not sure.
00:07:50.980 I'd be more open to having
00:07:53.640 easier
00:07:55.460 labor
00:07:57.980 be able to easily
00:07:59.160 move from Europe to Canada and vice versa
00:08:02.220 because there's a lot of highly skilled labor
00:08:04.100 there's a lot of highly skilled labor
00:08:06.520 and we may need that
00:08:07.580 to build out infrastructure
00:08:09.600 I'm thinking
00:08:12.040 the EU might not have a
00:08:14.140 surplus of skilled labor
00:08:15.580 right now
00:08:17.380 they have a huge amount of immigration as well
00:08:20.360 So they're trying to pour a lot of people into their economy.
00:08:23.800 But it doesn't mean they don't have enough skilled labor.
00:08:26.320 They could have too much skilled labor,
00:08:29.480 and they could also have too much general immigration.
00:08:32.100 Those two things, they're not mutually exclusive.
00:08:34.660 Okay.
00:08:35.760 But do you think that, again, just to go back to the EU thing
00:08:42.960 and the fact that we're trying to be a associate member,
00:08:45.900 when I talk to Europeans who are like,
00:08:48.840 whoa i'm from germany please don't join the eu their regulations they will put you in a box you
00:08:54.860 will be subject to their regulations don't do it in any way no partnership just just trade like i
00:09:00.320 want to talk to people from boland or yugoslavia or like anywhere in france even like they're saying
00:09:05.100 don't join the eu their court is above your court everything else right so if we join the eu with
00:09:10.940 associate member we would probably like almost certainly have to comply with regulations in the
00:09:16.320 areas we collaborate with but we wouldn't be able to vote these are all things that we we don't
00:09:20.920 really know if once we have the deal that's like kind of present we can read through it then i can
00:09:26.840 really give an opinion on that these are like hypotheticals that may or may not happen and we
00:09:31.020 probably have different ideas of how probable some aspects are i don't think we're going to reconcile
00:09:35.720 on that i think it would be better to just have a conversation once we know the you know the
00:09:40.160 details there i'm not going to speculate because i don't know i like we could speculate a little
00:09:45.600 bit though on what we've seen with other countries that have associate sort of members
00:09:49.580 there is no necessary there is no associate member i mean iceland's somewhat close uh
00:09:54.040 switzerland has some integrations yeah ukraine's very it's very weird i don't think we'd have the
00:09:58.260 same deal as ukraine um it would just be like okay um do i want to be subject to all the same
00:10:03.240 regulations probably not i'd have to look through them um i would i'm in favor of a deal that i
00:10:08.760 generally think would be beneficial for the canadian economy and have an add a more rope
00:10:14.040 and have the canadian economy become more robust i would be against things that would threaten that
00:10:19.040 so it really does depend uh i would have to see what's going to happen yeah that that's that
00:10:24.980 that's really what i can say on that really like again i don't know how much is actually going to
00:10:30.160 stimulate the economy because already 99 of what we trade is tariff free so it's like flowing
00:10:35.760 yeah but we're also the thing is though we're also decreasing trade with america so we're trying to
00:10:40.720 increase trade ties with the europe and with europe and with asia and that requires some
00:10:46.100 like soft power that requires mingling you know um and that may require new um legal infrastructure
00:10:52.100 for how do we import all this this new oil these new natural resources that we have i don't know
00:10:56.900 if there's a lot of uh there's not a lot of legislation involved with that right now because
00:11:01.240 that hasn't been a big thing we've kind of done a majority of our trade especially natural minerals
00:11:05.300 with the u.s but that is ceasing so we're going to have to if we want to engage with europe in
00:11:09.780 like an optimal way we're going to have to kind of figure that out and that's a big unknown so i
00:11:14.540 think getting a little closer and integrating more with them will make it easier to communicate
00:11:18.420 what our economies can do to work together and that's that's my basic opinion um because we're
00:11:24.600 reducing trade uh reducing trade with the u.s if that trade has to go somewhere and we want to
00:11:29.000 increase the amount of trade as well so we're gonna have to well build new ties with europe
00:11:32.740 build new ties with asia and gen you know with the rest of the world okay i would say though like
00:11:37.660 we can end on this because we might have to go but um the way i see things is that yes we should
00:11:44.720 diversify our trade and see who we can trade more with and different things like that but like i'm 0.87
00:11:50.080 iffy on trading with china simply because they are very they're aggressive they're communists 0.81
00:11:53.860 they have a lot of propaganda they're already trying to infiltrate our economy i see them as 0.89
00:11:57.360 more of a threat than the united states even so from where i see things i don't think i think it
00:12:02.960 actually be destructive to our economy right now to try to deliberately cut like trade ties off
00:12:08.000 with the united states and like reduce trade i don't think we're trying to deliberately cut but
00:12:11.720 if america is giving us a bad deal and we say no i don't like that deal i don't know if that's
00:12:16.140 deliberate they're kind of the aggressor and then we are we have the ability to say yes or no and
00:12:20.920 if it's not a good deal saying no i wouldn't frame it as like we're trying to cut off i think carney
00:12:25.260 he would be like guys it would be awesome if we could just go back to normal i think if you gave
00:12:29.800 that option i think you'd do it because it would make the yeah everything more stable i mean
00:12:33.480 what i've seen with the trade deal that they were offered like again i'm not saying that this would
00:12:41.120 be good for us to necessarily like accept but trump was like uh you need to remove certain
00:12:46.780 free speech regulations that you have in canada and we want to have some say in who else you trade
00:12:51.700 like think about that like he's telling us to how we should run our economy or how we should
00:12:56.620 some some thing that's completely exclusive from our economy it's like guys you gotta
00:13:01.760 you gotta change how you talk about free speech there's nothing to do with the economy these are
00:13:05.780 like these are these are like it's like a marketing play i don't see he doesn't really care um that
00:13:11.980 that's like a very why would i ever let think about why would i ever let a foreign power dictate
00:13:17.120 to art dictate to me how we should run our country i don't like that framing would you want that
00:13:22.480 framing would you want china telling us hey hey but that makes no sense then why he went to the
00:13:27.440 eu when they're signing trade deals where the eu would have some regulation and say in who we trade
00:13:33.780 no that isn't i america wait the europe europe is saying that we can't trade with america if we
00:13:40.040 become associate member or like certain deals that he's looking at signing right now they would have
00:13:46.060 say and who we trade with i wouldn't like that idea i don't know if that's true or false i don't
00:13:50.540 know if that will or will not happen i don't like that idea so if that's the case i don't like that
00:13:54.820 but if that's not the case then i don't really care i know i just i feel like it's it's hypocritical
00:13:59.380 of us to be like oh i don't think it's hypocritical because like because here's the thing trump did
00:14:03.280 say this the thing you brought up with the eu is like i don't know if that's true there is no
00:14:07.240 concrete deal there's no deal or there's no deal yet so if that does happen and that is what he
00:14:12.080 signed with something that would be hypocritical if it was something like that but also it's a
00:14:16.660 it's a little different because that's even then i still don't like that but it's a little
00:14:21.860 different saying oh this is an economic deal so you can't uh partake in some economic action
00:14:25.800 trump said you uh to have this economic deal go through you need to take some political action
00:14:31.120 that's different it would be like trump saying oh um to to get this trade deal passed canada you
00:14:36.880 have to amend your constitution what i don't like that i'm not i don't want a foreign power
00:14:40.680 tell me what i can and cannot do yeah and i understand that but would you would do you
00:14:44.120 disagree with that no like i don't think he should have i don't think he should be telling us how to
00:14:48.140 run our country but at the same time let's look at what he was telling us to do remove some
00:14:54.000 anti-free speech no i don't i'm a very free speech i'm a free speech proponent but i'm just saying
00:14:59.460 on the actual on just the the general case of the some guy some foreign power telling us what we can
00:15:06.140 and cannot do with our political system i don't like that at all and i don't like that framing
00:15:10.540 And I don't think any Canadians should like that framing
00:15:12.620 Yeah, that's understandable 1.00
00:15:13.980 But I do think if a foreign power 1.00
00:15:16.960 Cares enough about 1.00
00:15:18.580 What we're saying in our country
00:15:20.620 Like the free speech that we have in our country
00:15:22.960 Then I think it should give us pause to be like
00:15:24.540 Do you think he cares?
00:15:25.920 I think he might
00:15:27.020 Really?
00:15:29.120 Yeah
00:15:29.340 Why else would he tell us to do that?
00:15:32.100 Do you think Trump doesn't engage with countries that
00:15:34.640 Trump's pretty close
00:15:37.020 With Saudi Arabia 0.98
00:15:38.520 they have horrible they don't give a fuck about free speech they don't care at all and it's like 0.99
00:15:44.280 don't you think if he was some moral some moral arbiter he would you know cut ties with saudi 0.98
00:15:49.540 arabia if he gave so if he cared so much about canada no with the passing of bill c11 in canada
00:15:55.100 canadian content creators especially conservative content creators have been demoted especially on
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