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- October 17, 2026
"They Treated Us Like Slaves!" - Costco Made Him A Leftist
Hosted by
Sarah Dotzert
Mentioned
Henry Ford
He Said 'We Should Fight Gov't Fraud' - Until I Compared His Idea To DOGE
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10 minutes
Words per minute
182.46
Word count
2,002
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I used to work at a Costco, like, the forklift driver is telling me, like, management is, like, treating everyone like slaves.
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You're calling it, like, socialism, but, like, it's kind of the capitalists themselves, or, like, we want government welfare.
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I support socialism.
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Okay.
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I feel like a lot of that kind of came from, like, I used to work at a Costco warehouse.
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Okay.
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Right.
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and it was like a lot of the conversations I was having with like people around me you know where
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it's like like the forklift driver is telling me like the manager is like like like management is
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like treating everyone like slaves and stuff like that you know what I mean yeah and it's like
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why do we like why do we have like a system like that you know what I mean
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yeah so any form of oppression is due to i like i'm a christian so i view things as like humans
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are inherently evil so we do have evil in us so if we oppress others that is because of
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we are by nature so if we were the best way to minimize that though is to have a system
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where workers can leave or like even a workers union or something like that where we're able
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to raise our voices and say okay no these conditions are bad we're going to leave we're
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going to walk out you guys aren't going to be able to function that is a better system
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so when we're talking about socialism though that's like government ownership of the means
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of production right so we're we're basically talking about instead of having like oligopoly
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or like a monopoly of like these capitalist businesses whatever we have a government-run
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monopoly so there's there's less say for us as people to have right so like we have a vote yes
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and that's like once every four years five years right so when we vote in a capitalist society
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that's our money right so we're voting with our money and whatever we like we reward whatever we
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don't like we don't reward so we're each of us we're rewarding we're voting for what we like
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every single day multiple times a day um right what if like you're in debt or something
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yeah i mean like there are a lot of people in debt i know i did want to say one thing so like
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i feel like the issue with capitalism is like when i was talking about that costco warehouse like
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uh you know like the main issue was like it kind of wasn't like the manager's fault like it wasn't
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just the fact that the manager was like a bad guy or something because like uh the manager has to go
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buy like quotas and stuff um and like basically like they have to make sure people are working
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as hard as possible for like the smallest pay so if it's like right my manager is like literally
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being for like if he doesn't do that if my manager is like nicer and is like guys take more breaks
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stuff like that like the warehouse is going to get less money and he's going to get less of a benefit
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it so it's kind of like it's a whole system you know it's not just like bad like managers and
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stuff like that right and if it like in capitalism efficiency is rewarded right so that is probably
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what the managers are thinking that is the more obviously the quicker they can get things out the
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more money they make but when you get to socialism efficiency is not rewarded in any way and
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inefficiency is basically the name of the game don't you think people are like more efficient
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at working when they have like more of a break though you know what i mean like depends uh like
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for like the reason we got an eight hour work day uh number one because like you know we had like
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workers struggle for it and stuff but number two like henry ford right you know him um he was like
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kind of saying the eight hour work day is good because uh people like when people have more of
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break they like yeah yeah but i feel like capitalism is kind of not like uh just getting
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people like it's not even about like output anymore like i feel like to some extent it's
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kind of just like torture you know what i mean like it's just like seeing i mean henry ford
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was one of the greatest capitalists i would say that's i mean yeah but he's just like he's just
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the guy you know what i mean yeah yeah um so i there's no reason to really say that the government
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would have come up with that themselves either and like the government again the government
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does not reward efficiency so what ends up being rewarded is someone is just getting their paycheck
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over and over again no matter how much work they do right so when you have socialist countries like
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soviet union up until the fall of the soviet union they had really really long bread lines
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and that because that's because there was very much inefficiency so like we need to work i'm
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not going to say the capitalism is perfect but socialism is like verifiably worse and it's
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because you have inefficiency like the government is not all-knowing and bureaucrats honestly do
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care about themselves so we can't say we have selfless people in government i mean don't you
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think that's kind of true in our system as well like uh in like 2008 when like the whole market
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crashed you know like all of like the automotive producers like they they had no money and they
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like couldn't produce anymore and what the government did was like bail them all out but
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you know that's like capitalism you know what i mean well that's actually government intervention
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i wouldn't say that that was yeah but like if we let them fail the entire economy would have
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collapsed you know what i mean and it's like covid we did that as well like we just like
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stimulated the economy uh part of the reason why we're like dealing with this like right now
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but like i mean like it's the capitalists themselves though who are like the one like
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you're calling it like socialism but like it's kind of the capitalists themselves who are like
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we want this stimulus you know we want like government welfare um so like you're saying
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that's socialism but that's like the capitalist capitalist though i mean like the big ones like
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the banks you know that kind of thing okay yeah but okay those wouldn't be the people that are
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like earning and making the products then because the people that would be there they would not be
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the people that are like paying all the taxes right i'm a bit confused like the banks so
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governments yes banks get taxed but governments get taxed governments tax the citizens right like
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so the average worker the the billionaire as well as the person who's working in like tim hortons
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right so those are the people that that are getting taxed so there might be benefit like
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monetary benefit to places like these big banks to have more taxation because then maybe people
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will have more debt and won't need to i don't know take out more loans or something like that
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there might be actually monetary benefit to them um i feel like the like the system of like taxation
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that we have today like it's just kind of like um you know it's kind of just like to decrease
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inflation like you know like keynesianism yeah i'm sure like you would say that's like socialism
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right keynesian economics yeah it's like it is based on socialist thinking um it doesn't work
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though i wouldn't say can you keynesian economics works are you a student not here okay because i
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was just gonna ask about like like you would probably say something like osap is like socialism
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right it is yeah i mean like what's so like what's so wrong with like osap though you know
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what i mean like if you come to like a campus like you know you're gonna find a lot of people
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here who are on osap yeah we're like relying on it yeah yeah i know i do understand that
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um and if see when you have a fair tax system where everyone gets taxed equally like say
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the swedens the denmarks the finlands of the world their tax tax system is very fair and level
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a taxes consumption not necessarily income so they have free they have free education they
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have free university and everything else and people are basically paying the benefits that
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they get then they are basically it's like paid for it they're going to pay it off in taxes
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themselves at the end but they have a level tax system so the rich are not overly taxed when you
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have socialism though the idea is that you're going to tax the rich and that's against the
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the consent of the wealthy pretty much right so like the wealthy are not going to be like
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consenting to having like 60 70 percent of their wealth taxed away from them they're either going
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to move away they're going to stop producing they're going to maybe employ less people
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stuff like that so there's reasons why socialism like the disproportionate taxing of the wealthy
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has gone wrong so we could theoretically have a system where university is free
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but that would have to come with a lot more taxes but like didn't just have that i mean like i know
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the government was in like deficit and so yeah it seems like i don't know it seems like they're
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kind of cutting like the wrong areas you know what i mean and i feel like a lot of people share
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this sentiment where it's like they're cutting osap but you know like they still like bail out
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corporations and stuff like every time like the economy like goes bad right like they're cutting
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osap but like we still spend so much on our military and like i mean in the u.s at least
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like a lot of that money like goes to like israel you know um not a lot but that's kind of crazy
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like why like why do people here have to get like their social benefits cut well like u.s citizens
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in their like tax paying money you know like israel has like free health care that's paid for by like
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u.s citizens taxes like isn't that kind of like an affair i actually i mean if you look at what
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israel is given though like 80 90 of what the money that they're given which i mean to be honest
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it's a lot less than the money that is given to ukraine but the money that they're given like 80
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or 90 of it actually has to be spent in the united states for weapons and arms and everything else
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right like that's the deal that they have so the health care that in israel is actually
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