Unify Action - October 13, 2026


He Said 'We Should Fight Gov't Fraud' - Until I Compared His Idea To DOGE

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They Couldn't "Handle the Facts" - Then Another Socialist Jumped In

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00:00:00.000 a bureaucrat. Could they be greedy too?
00:00:02.000 Yes, obviously. As far as if something is happening, that's bad. That's not the MP.
00:00:05.500 It's also the people who are in bad at the job. We changed it.
00:00:09.500 I think you're advocating for something kind of like doge in the United States.
00:00:13.000 No.
00:00:16.500 If you go to a local coffee shop where you got your Tim's
00:00:19.500 and they didn't serve you for 30 minutes,
00:00:24.500 you would go to a different shop, right?
00:00:26.500 But if it were a government-run industry, it doesn't matter.
00:00:31.880 The government runs all the coffee shops.
00:00:34.100 So no matter where you go, you're probably going to get the same service.
00:00:37.740 And you might wait 30 minutes.
00:00:40.180 They have no incentive to put you through quickly.
00:00:45.800 None whatsoever.
00:00:47.460 I don't really agree with that because for most of the human history,
00:00:51.900 people were doing stuff
00:00:53.700 for the betterment
00:00:55.880 of the community
00:00:56.960 so if you have workers
00:00:59.920 in a specific place
00:01:01.420 even if they are run by the government
00:01:03.880 it's going to depend on the people
00:01:06.180 working there
00:01:07.320 like for example right now
00:01:09.480 we know there is a shortage
00:01:11.800 of nurses in a lot of places 0.96
00:01:14.040 so that's why 0.63
00:01:15.060 the wait times
00:01:17.700 is so bad right now
00:01:19.820 so one thing
00:01:21.880 we could do actually give enough budget for the for the hospitals and everything so that we can
00:01:30.000 hire more nurses and more doctors hey see that's actually not it's not necessarily money that's
00:01:36.500 missing it is it is actually the people to do the job the people that are doing the jobs like
00:01:41.700 there's not enough doctors yeah in the market period and there's not enough nurses yeah so it
00:01:47.540 It wouldn't necessarily depend.
00:01:48.900 But why do we not have enough of those?
00:01:51.800 It's a government issue. 0.96
00:01:53.380 First of all, there's not enough nurses and doctors allowed to actually be trained, in Canada especially.
00:02:01.420 And we have too many people in Canada to the infrastructure that we have.
00:02:06.020 And that's something that's fallen on the government. 0.96
00:02:08.120 They have let too many people into Canada, and we have not grown as much as we could. 1.00
00:02:13.700 or we have not grown to 0.99
00:02:15.740 have the capacity to serve all those people
00:02:18.160 so what happens when we get our doctors and nurses
00:02:20.320 is they are overtaxed
00:02:22.700 right?
00:02:23.560 yo!
00:02:25.200 are you doing?
00:02:27.580 okay
00:02:28.100 right? so that's on the government
00:02:29.640 but they have no incentive
00:02:31.780 to actually get things done quickly
00:02:34.260 they're sitting on their hands
00:02:36.300 basically in this situation
00:02:37.620 and we have so many people coming to Canada
00:02:40.420 that are trained to be doctors and nurses
00:02:42.960 But they're just not putting forward a program to let them fully become vetted and registered and certified in Canada.
00:02:52.700 Again, that's on them. They're sitting on their hands.
00:02:55.220 I agree with that part where the government is actually being slow for giving people the ability to actually work
00:03:02.180 as they have the diplomas in medicine and everything.
00:03:07.020 but if we were to let it be run
00:03:10.900 freely by corporations and everything
00:03:13.240 it would jack up the prices so bad
00:03:16.060 the regular person might not be able to afford them
00:03:19.960 because one thing is
00:03:22.720 yes, the wait times are horrible right now
00:03:26.900 but most people can actually afford to go to the hospital
00:03:32.000 so the trade-off is a bit bad
00:03:35.540 and that's why i say i agree with the fact that the government is actually being way too slow about
00:03:41.860 allowing people to get into the field but it's something that can be worked on as opposed to
00:03:48.900 if we were to give it to corporations they might be a bit quicker it would be a bit more organized
00:03:55.460 maybe stuff like that but the prices will be actually oh we need to make more revenue than
00:04:02.820 last month last year and because of that the prices will become
00:04:06.740 and affordable for the people okay so you know how much taxes the average
00:04:11.140 family in ontario pays just solely to health care every year
00:04:17.060 would it be around 13 percent it's about 20 for a family of four it's
00:04:22.580 about 22 000 per year that go directly to health care in ontario at least
00:04:26.980 so we're paying 22 000 the average family in their income right that's a
00:04:31.940 lot that is and in the united states i am certain that their their health insurance that they're
00:04:38.000 able to get is less than that right so they they actually pay less yeah but overall they have
00:04:48.340 a horrible coverage for a lot of stuff because in the u.s you have any health problem the bill
00:04:58.300 you're gonna get is ten times higher than what we get here uh maybe not always not always but
00:05:07.380 definitely but remember we're talking about like healthcare in canada is government run yes yes and
00:05:12.920 if we it's bad because it's slow you're not innovating right so if we're if we're advocating
00:05:18.420 for more socialism then we're advocating for that slowness in the other industries that we would
00:05:24.800 hand under their control the thing is the stillness can be resolved the greed from the
00:05:30.760 corporations cannot because okay could yeah a government run a person an oligarch a bureaucrat
00:05:40.960 could they be greedy too yes obviously how do we stop them from being greedy that's the thing
00:05:46.800 And if we are in a place where we are really democratic, we can stop them by voting.
00:05:54.600 If someone is trying to amass way too much power, we can vote them down.
00:06:00.300 Right. We can vote for the public servants, the MPs, the prime minister, the MPPs,
00:06:06.080 and the city councillors and everything else.
00:06:08.720 But do we vote for the bureaucrats that are not elected, that sit underneath the ministers,
00:06:16.800 we don't vote for him
00:06:18.900 when you vote for a party
00:06:21.520 you should know
00:06:22.940 they have actually a plan
00:06:25.620 and they will try
00:06:26.820 so they should put people
00:06:29.920 who are actually
00:06:31.660 able to do the work
00:06:33.060 if they don't, we vote out 1.00
00:06:35.200 the whole group, the whole party 1.00
00:06:37.440 because we
00:06:38.840 don't look at
00:06:40.660 everything that's bad right now is on the MP
00:06:43.600 it's a lot of
00:06:45.220 Oh, and for example, if we say in Quebec, something is happening in Quebec, that's bad for Quebec.
00:06:50.280 That's not the MP of Canada.
00:06:52.840 It's also the people in Quebec who are being so, who are being bad at the job.
00:06:59.760 So we should look at them.
00:07:01.280 Oh, what's happening?
00:07:02.320 And then look at the MP and say, oh, why are you letting that happen?
00:07:06.600 If both don't give good answer, we change them.
00:07:10.680 And then we cycle until we find the good people.
00:07:14.380 Yeah, I think you're advocating for something kind of like Doge in the United States.
00:07:19.360 No, no, I know them.
00:07:22.000 Yeah, like they were going through the bureaucrats and cleaning house, right?
00:07:26.380 The thing is, they were replacing people without asking the public.
00:07:31.560 They were replacing them by themselves.
00:07:33.580 But people, that was on the ballot though.
00:07:36.660 It was on the ballot, right?
00:07:37.660 So, like, we're kind of advocating for something kind of like that,
00:07:42.440 where we would look to see if there are greedy bureaucrats yes right and clean house on the ones
00:07:48.320 that are that are being slow yeah that is something kind of like doge in a sense yes but in what
00:07:56.600 really happened it was oh they made it sound like we're gonna clean in a way that oh it's gonna be
00:08:04.060 better now but no what they actually did was put their people who share the same ideals and
00:08:10.120 everything in that position instead of people who are actually good at the job so in a sense like i
00:08:18.200 said in a sense i agree it's the same of cycling the same way doge did it it's the same cycling
00:08:25.520 but here it would be okay maybe what i'm saying is a bit utopic but it would be that oh we are
00:08:33.500 actually putting people who know how to do the job because if we put someone who never done
00:08:40.060 anything about finances in their career in the post of minister of international
00:08:48.220 economics something something something obviously they're gonna the economy yes so
00:08:54.220 if we actually put someone who can do the job it's gonna go better now if there are stuff like oh
00:09:01.580 we like infrastructures we like like manpower that's also something that the government should
00:09:08.700 be thinking about oh maybe we should put more budget into like med schools so that we have
00:09:16.060 more doctors who come out of it right but that's actually something that they're allowing the med
00:09:22.320 schools to do right because the med schools yeah they are basically oligarchies they're monopolies
00:09:26.940 right so they want to keep doctors wages high and so they want less doctors in the field right so
00:09:33.600 that's that's them that's like a government decision that has been allowed that's the thing
00:09:39.760 it's one of the things we should actually try to change like i said when i say socialism what i'm
00:09:47.340 thinking first is we are voting for the best interest of the public yeah so that would be
00:09:54.180 in theory exactly but if we were to move out of socialism it would be something that would be
00:10:02.180 like the free market is governing the country pretty much it's governing what see like i'm not
00:10:09.840 advocating for no government yeah right i think i think our government the government that we
00:10:14.040 choose has to be one that we voluntarily give our taxes to if the government is like oppressing one
00:10:19.680 particular group say like the rich or high income earners then they that is the majority making a
00:10:26.020 a decision to have money taken from a minority which is the rich right yes right and so they
00:10:32.100 have less of a say in it so i think taxes i think we should have free will and respect for private
00:10:38.440 property in the government that we choose right so that's why i don't think government is inherently
00:10:42.360 socialist the problem okay the problem is in the economy we live in right now there's way too much
00:10:52.160 a disparity between the top earners and the rest so in my opinion maybe people will disagree but
00:11:01.120 in my opinion we should have a better like redistribution of the wealth okay so right now
00:11:09.680 it's not really in what we're talking about anyway but in my opinion we don't have any reason to let
00:11:17.440 let people to get to billions.
00:11:19.720 We don't have any reason to let people get that.
00:11:22.180 All right.
00:11:22.560 That's another discussion.
00:11:23.260 So is the problem, like, we can't talk about that, though.
00:11:26.600 Is the problem with the billionaires,
00:11:29.560 is it the problem that we have people who don't have enough money,
00:11:32.000 or is it the problem that they have too much?
00:11:34.440 What is a bigger problem?
00:11:36.720 I would say people...
00:11:40.000 It's interlinked.
00:11:42.720 I think it's interlinked.
00:11:43.880 Because if, for example, let's say, for example, Tim Hortons, if they have a net profit of one billion, how do they get this net profit of one billion?
00:11:57.040 What do they pay their workers?
00:11:59.540 Are they paying a livable wage, like actually livable?
00:12:04.160 So if they are paying people a livable wage, I'm okay.
00:12:08.940 If that means the workers are actually able to afford everything they should as a person who works, I'm good.
00:12:16.980 As long as everybody can live decently, even if people are like billionaires or something, no problem.
00:12:22.860 The thing is, a lot of times when a business makes that much money, that means they are doing something.
00:12:33.000 either they are not paying people a lot or they have like a monopoly on something okay which is
00:12:41.940 which also makes it bad for the public sometimes it's good for the people working there people who
00:12:47.440 work in finance especially the people like the accountants stuff like that they tend to have
00:12:52.300 a very good salary right but the people who are being affected people who have to put their um
00:13:00.480 like to get mortgages, stuff like that.
00:13:03.460 They are the ones shoddering the fact that
00:13:05.840 they are making a lot of money.
00:13:07.780 Okay.
00:13:08.500 Yeah, so things have gotten worse
00:13:13.340 in that people have not been able to live on minimum wage
00:13:16.480 or anything like that.
00:13:17.180 That is something that has gotten worse.
00:13:19.160 And the more government that we have,
00:13:21.060 the more government regulation that we have had,
00:13:23.180 and technically the more socialist we've been coming,
00:13:25.820 things have been getting worse
00:13:26.700 and we don't have a livable wage, right?
00:13:29.440 The thing is, you can't put that on the government because of lobbying.
00:13:36.460 Based lobbying, that's preventing the government from actually making it...
00:13:42.420 They're lobbying for regulations from the governments.
00:13:45.420 Yes.
00:13:45.700 Right, so they're lobbying for more socialism.
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